Joe Rogan Experience #2413 - Theo Von

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY. NIGHT. All day. >> Who? Me? [laughter]. >> Sorry. I didn't know you were talking. talking to one of. >> There's only three of us in here. Yeah. Are there [laughter]. >> I don't know, dude. >> The glasses, man. What's the new. sophisticated look? >> Yeah, I got them. >> What's going on? I I I see I see you got. them. Yeah, they're great, man. My buddy.

Joseph gave it gave them to me. I got. them from him. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And they're popping. And they. help, too. >> Yeah. Are you losing your vision? >> I don't think so. But I think these just. make it even better. >> Okay. Let me see. Let me try them. See. how bad your eyes are. >> Try them on, big dog. >> Oh, barely. >> I could get them weighted, too, so you. could do a neck workout when you have. them on. >> Why would you do that? This is uh God, I. can't I can't tell the difference. Are you sure these are real?

>> I think they are. >> I don't think these are real glasses, dog. >> Let me see. Try. Can. >> I don't think they Jamie, put these on. I don't. First of all, they're smeared. as [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Somehow they keep getting grease. on them, dude. All I've done. >> You got greasy [ __ ] fingers and you. keep touching them. You're not supposed. to. Look at you. You're rubbing your. head. You're rubbing your greasy face. >> I don't even go in the kitchen. >> You don't need grease. You don't need to. go in the kitchen for grease. Barely. tell the difference. Right. >> It's doing something, but. >> barely. Barely. This is psychological. >> It's like it's if it's if you're 20 if. you're not 2020, you're 2025.

>> These are these are psychological, dog. >> You really You don't think they're good? >> No. No. I'm No. What I'm saying? I mean, they're fine, but they're psych, right? Like I've been reading too much. >> Um they're uh I think it's a. psychological thing. >> Yeah, it could be. >> You got to believe that they make you. see better. >> My vision's okay. It's not as good as it. was when I was young. >> I got to read the packaging again. But. it's a lot better than it used to be. I. started using red light, a red light. bed. Makes a giant difference, man. Huge.

difference. Yeah. I don't need reading. glasses anymore. I needed reading. glasses for a while. Like look at my. phone. Like it was fine text. I don't. read it. I don't need it at all anymore. >> And that's because of the red light. >> Oh yeah. 100%. >> Yeah. Red light therapy and certain. vitamins like luteine. There's a few. different There's a company called Pure. Encapsulations. They make a formulation called macular. support and I I take that stuff. But. those two things for sure have had a a. big impact. I think it's the red light. though more than anything. That was the. big that's the big factor.

>> I've been doing sauna and I've been. getting in there. >> It feels good. I feel like a little. dumpling when I get out of there. >> Yeah, it's good. Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah, it feels good. Yeah. >> Get that body all heated up and. everything just kind of flows out of. you. I saw a protocol of what you're. supposed to do before you get in there. and I've never done any of these things, but it's like how much water you're. supposed to drink before you go in. [snorts]. >> [ __ ] all that. 45 minutes you're. supposed to go you're supposed to drink. uh like a liter of water with. electrolytes and some magnesium.

>> I don't know. Some guy made this. That's. the problem. Like everybody's an online. guru. >> Yeah. Well, everybody everything they. watch it's like they think you're trying. to get in the Olympics. It's like [ __ ]. I'm just trying to [ __ ] get to work. [laughter] You know what I'm saying? [ __ ] I'm just trying to [ __ ]. >> I just want to feel a little bit better. >> Yeah. I'm just trying make it out of my. garage. >> Give me an edge. giving an edge on this. cold, hard world. >> Yeah, that's the only thing, man. >> That's all I'm looking for. >> But good to see you, dude. >> Good to see you always, my friend. >> I'm glad you're still alive. >> You, too. I'm glad you're still alive, too. >> Amen.

>> We've both been interviewing dangerous. people. >> Have we, you think? >> Uh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. >> You really have. [laughter]. >> Who have I interviewed that you have it? It's more dangerous. >> Oh, I don't That's a good question. I mean, I did I don't Yeah. I don't. think I have people that's that. dangerous. Maybe Thomas Massie. >> Oh, do you have him on? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They all hate him right now. It's. uh this is a sad thing about both. political parties, not just the the.

right, but the left, too, is they decide. that they're going to gang up on someone. for not towing the line. >> Yeah. >> You know, like whatever happened to. having different opinions? whatever. happened to having different. perspectives and being able to argue. your perspective. >> But then they have these goofy ass. bills, which by the way, they just. [ __ ] they slipped something into this. last bill that uh Mitch McConnell guy. did, I believe. Check make sure that he. did it. The hemp thing. They slipped this thing in where you can.

no longer buy CBD with like it has to be. like the lowest trace amount of THC in. it. >> which is for a like like my wife's mom. you know she's an older lady and she. takes CBD for pain for joints and stuff. like that. >> Does she smoke it or she does the. ointment? >> No, she takes like uh oil like CBD oil. >> Yeah. He snuck in [ __ ] dead turtle. He's a leaning proponent of closing a. 2018 Farm Bill loophole allowing.

intoxicating THC to be sold in low. doses. See, but he's got a couple of. [ __ ] milligrams in his neck. Look at. that [ __ ]. >> He's got something going on. They. definitely got him medicated. There. ain't no way that guy's sleeping without. help. Everybody hates him. >> It looks like he hit a joint. It won't. leave him alone. >> Go back up [laughter] and show him. >> Like took an edible. He like Joey Diaz. dosed him. >> He looks like he's on the church. He's. on the church of what's happening now. And Joey Diaz sucker. >> Joey Diaz and Lee are just staring at. him. H Yeah. Um they gotta change that.

That's uh really bad. >> Why is it bad? Because of what they. >> Because for people that are getting. benefits from CBD, the the THC along. with the CBD. And by the way, we're. talking super super low amounts. But. there's something about how CBD and THC. work in a synergistic way for people. that are in a lot of pain. Um, I know a. lot of people, like I said, my wife's. mom, she says the stuff with the THC in. it works better and it's not getting her.

high. Like, this is the. misunderstanding. This stuff's not going. to get you high, but it what it will do. is it helps with anxiety for a lot of. people. It definitely reduces. inflammation and uh for people that have. like joint pain like my friend Dave. Foley, >> Dave Foley from News Radio, kids in the. hall, Dave Foley, awesome guy. Uh Dave. had like pretty severe arthritis in his. hands like where, you know, he was. really having a hard time opening his. hands. Started taking CBD oil. >> Did he open a jar or anything like that?

You think? Was it hard? >> He was in pain, man. It was it was bad. Um but now it's gone and it's gone. because of CBD. It's really effective, man. It's really effective. And so what. they're saying that they don't want you. to Why Why are they doing that? Cuz they. want to control it. >> It's the alcohol lobby. It's the same. people that are trying to keep um. marijuana illegal in Texas. It's the. alcohol lobby. This is the fact. The. fact is when people start smoking weed, they they drink less. >> And you know, I mean, it could be. because they just decided to get high.

and not get drunk, or it could be that. they smoke pot and they get a little. paranoid and they go, "Oh my god, why am. I poisoning myself 5 days a week?" Well, a lot of people now I feel like are just. doing like cocaine and saunas. It seems. like. >> I don't think they're doing those. together. Maybe in your neighborhood. [laughter]. >> Not in our area. >> Maybe it's your town. >> I want my neighbors to know that. >> Maybe your neighbors are coming over. their underwear with a [ __ ] baggie. [laughter]. Let's go, Theo. Let's go. Let's get get. that [ __ ] up to 185. Let's [laughter].

go. There's a place up ahead. >> Throw that water on them rocks. I'm. ready. I want my [snorts] nasal cavity. to be opened wide. Get that lucalyptus in the air, [laughter]. bro. Dude, the best is Yeah. If you have. if you have a good brother or somebody, they say eucalyptus, bro. >> Eucalyptus. Get the eucalyptus in the. air. >> But yeah, I don't know if a lot of. people are even drinking that much. anymore. Do you think. >> lot less people are drinking, including. me. But I did have a drink the other. night before I went on stage and I felt. great. Woo! I haven't done that in a. while. I had a little whiskey before I.

went on stage. But I gave up on drinking. entirely for many months. I forget how. many months, but it was quite a while. where I didn't have a sip of alcohol and. I felt way better. You did? >> Yeah. But I don't think there's anything. wrong with moderation. You know, like uh. when I was in uh New York, I went to. this place, Teresi. Oh my god. >> For MSG, you mean for for the pipes just. now? >> Oh my god. There's this Italian. restaurant in New York City called. Teresi. It's so good. >> Well, remember that place you took me. to? >> Oh, yeah. Ganos in Vegas. Oh, so good.

>> Thank god the the little. >> Oh, bro. All handmade pasta at Gaitanos, man. >> What was that little thing? It's like a. little square. Looks like. >> raviolis. Oh my god. Right. >> Like a shingle fell off the roof of. heaven and landed in. >> Yeah. With that sauce just perfect soft. >> And Gaitanos is uh like a lot of it. It's It's like the best ones get their. flour from Italy cuz it doesn't [ __ ]. with your stomach. Our flour is all. messed up, man. Our wheat's messed up. >> Oh yeah. A lot of our wheat's from. Memphis, dude. A lot of our wheat has.

like Yeah. >> All kinds of pesticides on it. A lot of it has. >> Yeah. A lot of it has guns. It is like. [ __ ] bullet holes in our wheat. >> You could test positive for coke just. from that. Just from eating wheat, just. from having bread. >> Do you know how many dollar bills test. positive for coke? It's some crazy. number. >> Yeah. I could imagine that that's. probably true. This guy tests positive. Huh? >> Is that your stepdad? >> No, that's Art Bell. >> You don't know who Art Bell is? Coast to. Coast with Art Bell from the Kingdom of. Nigh.

>> Yeah. Perup Nevada. That's him. >> Yeah, that's Art. He's the godfather of. fun conspiracies. >> Yes. He's like UFOs, >> the radio station, you could listen at. night, >> dude. He was my nighttime jam coming. home from the comedy store. >> I could see that. >> always cuz you're coming home from the. comedy store, it's like, you know, 1:00. in the morning and the art coast to. coast with Art Bell is on. The guy calls. up, "At I'm a time traveler." [laughter]. >> HE HAD A TIME traveler hotline. >> Yes, he did. >> He was you. He was you, you freak. How.

many time travelers you've had in here? Probably a couple. >> Oh, yeah. At least one. A couple that. probably can't find their way home to. >> at least one. I've had at least one. time. >> No, dude. That's you. I could totally. picture it now. You like you get a car. with some speakers in it and you're the. only one driving around listening to Art. >> Bell. Oh, there's a lot of people. listening. He was really popular. >> Oh, no. I know how popular he was. But I. mean, at a level where you would bump it. with bass like you loved it, >> right, right? Yeah. I loved it. I loved. it. You know, it's like the perfect. stuff to occupy your mind coming home. from the comedy store because. occasionally it was like real [ __ ] Like.

occasionally he'd have some people. talking about some really fascinating. things, you know, like asteroid impacts. and and he had Terrence McKenna on a few. times. He had a lot of interesting. people. But then every now and then he. would mix it up with a dude who says. he's a werewolf. [laughter]. >> And Art would never go, "Man, you ain't. a werewolf." He would go, "Interesting. Tell me more." [laughter]. He let dudes talk. >> He let dudes say the most ridiculous. [ __ ] It was [ __ ] great. >> I got to do his show once. I got it. I.

did it. Yeah, I did it when. >> I did it when it was on the radio or on. the internet rather. He wasn't on the. radio anymore. He had an internet uh. radio show for a while. >> Did he know who you were at that point. or No. >> Yeah. Yeah. Luckily, but uh to me it was. like [ __ ] yeah. It's like a few things. in my life where when I did them I was. like yes, you know, that was a big one. I hung up the phone. I had a giant. [ __ ] smile on my face. >> I just did the Art Bell show, son. >> Dude, that's so cool that that's him. I. can't tell if I can see him better with. or without these on. >> I think it's psychological. I'm telling. you, those glasses don't do a damn.

thing. They don't even change the shape. of your face. You know how sometimes. people put them on and I always go, "How. blind is this motherfucker?" And I'll. look to the side and I can see like. their face cakes in like [laughter] like. a half a foot because they got giant. magnifying glasses over their eyeballs. But with you, it looks exactly the same. The line of your face doesn't change at. all when you turn side to side. I think. they're [ __ ] with you. I think they. think you're crazy and they're like, "His eyes are perfect. Just give him. some clear lenses." You're like, "Yeah, I think I think this works. I think I.

see better than these.". >> I think Y'all got a vape pen? [laughter]. >> Yeah. Let me hit that vape, homie. There is. something about when uh people wear. them, they look smarter. >> Oh, for sure, dude. My friend was. wearing them the other day. This girl, and I was like, "Dang, this girl is. >> she must be a genius.". >> Yeah. >> Hot secretary or hot professor. Hot lady. professor. >> Let me do some homework up in them. undies. That's what I was thinking. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah,

let me get up in that study hall, baby. girl. >> Let me get extra credit points. Let's. go. >> Yeah, dude. >> But if you're a dumb dude with glasses, that's a bad look. >> Cuz not only are you blind, but you're. [ __ ] stupid, too. >> It was like Stephen Avery's cousin, that. little fellow that stood by the like was. grilling hot dogs on that burn barrel in. the uh remember when they when they. >> Who's Stephen Avery? >> The um. >> Who's Stephen Avery? >> Describe him. the murders from the the. like Netflix thing from the I think it.

was a pandemic, wasn't it? >> Making a murder. Was that him? >> Yeah, >> I can't remember. >> What was his case? >> He was a murderer. Well, they said he. was. Was he the Yes, he was a murderer. >> He's in jail for it. >> He's in jail for it. And he had his. little cousin. >> Oh, this is the guy that's a little. mentally challenged. Yeah, I read some. stuff. >> And his little cousin, that's him. Has. shades on. >> Brendan Dassy B Dassy, >> who's actually We did a little bit of. pen paling with him. tried to. Anyway, >> what do they think about this? Do they. think that. >> I think he did it. I think there was.

like I I believe people said that the. Netflix thing got like edited strange. and left stuff out that. >> that's the thing. You can't tell what's. real anymore. Who knows? >> Well, selective editing is crazy. It's. crazy that they still do that. >> Well, everything's crazy right now. >> I know. >> I mean, I feel like this is the year. Do. you feel like this is the year that um. people realize that like ne both of the. neither side of the government is. working for us? Is that a weird thing to. say? >> Well, it's true. It's pretty obvious.

that it's true. Okay. They're all. working for the people that got them in. So, no matter what they even if they're. good people that want to do well for. you, their obligations when they get in. there are the people that help them get. in there. They're the campaign. contributors. to the military-industrial. complex, the military contractors, the. big money, big money banks, big money. That's what this all this government. shutdown [ __ ] was all about, man. It's. all about healthcare, right? So, it's. all about how much money is getting. funneled through these corporations. If. you really think that what they're.

trying to do is make sure that people. get health care, you're [ __ ] naive. >> Yeah, you're ridiculous. >> What they're doing is they are. protecting some kind of slush fund. If. somebody digs into this and finds out. where that money's going and finds out. how this money's distributed, it'll make. more sense because there ain't a [ __ ]. chance in hell that they're keeping the. government shut down to protect your. health. >> Yeah. >> There's not a chance. There's not a. chance they're shutting down the [ __ ]. air traffic controllers. [laughter].

Not a chance. They're shutting down NASA. cuz they're worried about you getting. the flu. That [ __ ] is not happening. That's not what's going on. >> But I think everybody's starting to. realize that. Dude, I went to the post. office. Have you been to the post office. recently? >> I have not. >> Okay. >> Not since I voted. That was the last. time I was at the post office. >> Okay. Well, it's over. So, [laughter]. if you want to know what the post office. is like, dude, I went I'm not even. joking. I went to the the closest branch. near me in Nashville. There was two. birds. There was two crows in there.

Two. One of them was a crow. Definitely. One of them was a pretty big bird, and I. thought it was a crow, but he had some. discoloration or whatever. So, maybe. like a mulatto crow or mixed crow or. something. I don't know. >> Okay. f pulling a [ __ ] like fighting. over a [ __ ] box in there and there's. a lady um kind of like a darker woman in. there and she's spraying [ __ ] Lysol. trying to get them out of the [ __ ]. post office. I was like. >> Lysol. >> Yeah. Or like a fabuloso like a. [laughter]. cleaning spray like a disinfectant. >> Oh, okay. Yeah, got it.

>> Like she's standing on a little. stepladder trying to [ __ ] get these. two birds who were fighting over a. [ __ ] package. I was like we're. [ __ ]. >> We're [ __ ] man. That's and that's. that's the government, right? That's. biblical. >> Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it seems like a. Stephen King outtake, you know? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But I'm like, this is where we are. This. is. >> this is how like everything's privatized. now. It's a wrap. >> Do you feel like it's a wrap? Like, I've. been thinking for years that America. just feels like a Shell company, like a. Shell LLC.

>> Here's the thing about it being. privatized. Some things probably should. be privatized because they work better. >> Okay. They were like FedEx came along, UPS came along, so those came along. >> But the post office still does a good. job, man. You know, the. >> I'm going to disagree with that. I'm. sorry. I never disagree with you. I. don't think. >> the post office is the only people that. are sending sending letters for you for. like 30 cents or whatever it costs. And. then the post office are the only way. that you could ship chickens, live. chicks, like little baby chicks. They. have to do it through the post office.

because they know what to do and they. keep them alive. They know they're. chicks. >> Oh, that's nice. I didn't know that. All. the we've had chickens, you know, and. every chicken we get when we get them, they're baby chicks. >> and they come in the mail. >> They get them through the post office. Post office delivers them. >> Can you hear the package like that? It's. like. >> Yeah, bro. The post office it works. It's not perfect because it's the. government and there's no government. programs that are perfect. You know, >> it doesn't work that good anymore, though. I think it's [laughter]. it's gotten so bad, dude. >> The post office. >> maybe, >> bro. It's gotten bad. I sent my niece a. birthday card, dude. She never got it.

She never got it. It had money. It's. gone. It's gone. She'll never get it. Bro, you know what always? Nobody's. getting anything. >> The videos of these people dropping off. UPS packages. They take a picture of the. package and then they steal the package. [laughter]. >> I've seen that. I've seen videos of. that. I think people are kind of hip to. what ring cameras could do. But, bro, there was a quite a while where people. were doing some really [ __ ] horrible. [ __ ] right in front of those cameras cuz. they didn't know. >> They didn't know. You can't be just. stealing people's packages after you. drop them off like the [ __ ] UPS. driver, you know?

>> It's a [ __ ] wild time. a lot of. videos of that man. They put him down, take a picture, and they pick him up, take him back to the truck. >> and take him back, >> and then the camera's like, "Hey, [ __ ]. face.". >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Hey, [ __ ]. >> Yeah. This This episode's brought to you. by Visible. When your phone plans as. good as Visible, you've got to tell your. people. It's the ultimate wireless hack. to save money and still get great. coverage and a reliable connection. Get. oneline wireless with unlimited data and.

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to change. See visible.com for planned. features and network management details. >> Listen man, >> they should have different like ring. camera like a voice like this is Mr. T. You need to bring that package back, sucker. >> That is one of the dirtiest things. Porch pirates. People that are just. stealing [ __ ] off your porch. That. >> to get that close to somebody's house to. be right there. Yeah, >> that's one thing I like about living in. a state where there is the ability to. express something. >> You're talking about guns. >> bulletarily. That's how I like to say. [laughter] it.

There's the ability to express something. bullarily to somebody if you disagree if. their behavior see is illegal. >> Yeah. You got to be careful about what. that though the laws are different in. different places. Like even if someone's. stealing something, you're not allowed. to kill them. >> Yeah. Um, a guy just got in trouble. because some dudes, I think there was. three dudes, broke into his garage and. he uh went into his garage and they went. after him and he shot them and he killed.

one of them and now they're bringing him. up for manslaughter cuz I guess they're. saying he didn't have to shoot them. He. could have just scared them or he didn't. have to kill them. He could have just. retreated back into his home. Like in. California, they're [clears throat]. literally telling. >> stuff like a like a. >> I was just scared of them with a gun, I. guess. >> I guess. But like you don't know what. they have. You don't know what's going. on. These are split-second decisions. you're making with your life in danger. And then if you have a wife and. children, bro, you're going to shoot. first and ask questions later. You're.

not going to make a mistake that's going. to have your your kids killed. >> Yeah. You can't be like, "Are you scared. or what?" You can't say that kind of. [ __ ]. >> No, bro. It's scary. Someone's breaking. into your home. You have no idea what. they have. If you have no idea if. they're there to kill you, if you no. idea they're there to rob you, if. they're going to duct tape you and. torture you for a week, you don't know. what the [ __ ] is going on. And if you. have a gun, you're most likely going to. use it and you're going to shoot them. And the fact that these people broke. into his house, they were committing a. crime in defending his property and. maybe his life. He's getting charged.

with manslaughter. That's that's. ridiculous. This is the This is the. problem with liberal politics. >> [clears throat]. >> And this is where I would get really. confused because I'm like, I don't know. what they're trying to do. But if I was. going to try to destroy civilization, that's how I would do it. >> Yeah. >> I would keep keep letting violent people. out, keep saying it's racist to keep. them in jail, keep saying, you know, they're a victim of systematic racism. and keep and just like let the violent. people stay being violent, and then when. people defend themselves, lock them up,

have everybody scared. Like, if you. wanted to destroy society, you would do. it exactly this way. And I don't. understand that. I don't understand. Like it's. I understand being a kind, compassionate. person doesn't believe in gun violence. Absolutely. But if that's the case, like. there's no better deterrent to gun. violence than someone who has a gun and. you can't get to their house because. they'll [ __ ] shoot you. Okay? Like. that's that's a really good deterrent. Unless you're going to have police. everywhere and you don't. So like, who's. going to protect people from bad people?

If you're going to admit that bad people. exist? If you want to stop bad people. from happening, that's a conversation. I'd love to have. That's a real. conversation. Like, let's figure out how. to clean up a lot of these neighborhoods. and figure out what's causing all these. problems. >> But nobody wants to do that or it would. have been or would have been done by now. at this point. People just want to kind. of keep these higher powers. They know. what they're doing. It just starts to. feel like the experiment, like we're. just really seeing the experiment, you. know? It's almost like say you were. playing the game Mario or something and. one day Mario instead of just going this.

way on the screen, he [ __ ] turns and. looks at you. >> and he's like, "I see what you're. doing." That's what it feels like we are. right now. Like we're we're looking. right. >> at the people controlling everything and. like. >> Yeah. >> Oh, >> that's all because of the internet, dog. >> But [clears throat] it feels like. >> if it wasn't for the internet, no one. would be looking because we wouldn't be. getting these conversations, >> right? We'd still be we'd still be. people would still be disillusioned. >> You'd be getting CNN. You'd be getting. some horseshit version of what's. actually going on. But because the.

internet and real independent. journalists and and people that are. breaking things down, you start to go, "Wait a minute. What the [ __ ] is going. on?". >> Yeah. >> Who is who is doing this? Why are you. doing it? >> Want some coffee, dog? >> Can I have some? >> [ __ ] yeah. Of course you can. >> Oh, thanks, buddy. >> Um. >> Yeah, man. >> I mean, we're the first generation that. has had Cheers, my brother. Cheers, man. Good to see you, dude. >> Good to see you always. >> Really am excited to see you. >> I'm excited to see you, too. Always. [clears throat]. >> And I'm excited to see you a little.

clearer than I did. >> I don't think you are. I think it's I. think they got you. I think they're. [ __ ] with you, man. I think they're. giving you placeos, too. >> Really? >> Yeah. I think they gave you a Let me. take some whatever pills they give you. Let's see what happens. >> No, these are 15s. I think these are. good. >> 15s. What does that mean? >> I don't know. Oh, this. you fogged up. >> [laughter]. >> You fogged up from the coffee. Gotcha. >> You [ __ ] gave me this molten coffee, dude. >> Black rifle in the house. >> Is it. >> always? That's all we drink, >> dude. I went uh Oh, yeah. Well, there's.

Yeah, I'm just at the the journalism. now. I can't I know this is too hot for. me right now. >> It's not that hot. Look, >> I'm going to need glasses for my tongue. after I drink this, dude. >> No, it's not that hot. No, no, it's an. illusion. It's warm. >> It's decently hot, you know? Like nice. Nice. >> Yeah. Refreshing. >> Yeah, like refreshing. Not like ouchie. Why can't Starbucks figure that out? >> Because it I don't even think that's. coffee anymore. It's almost become like. McDonald's. It's just a It's a. >> It's burnt. >> It's a taste. It's just a thing. >> I drink black coffee. That's what I.

drink. That's what I like. I got into it. a while ago. Like Rick Ross, bro. It's. like Rick Ross. >> You know what I got into it, Jamie? Remember when we had that guy Peter. Giuliani on that was the coffee. connoisseur? That got me into I started. drinking black coffee from then on. That. was a long time ago. At least 10 years. ago, right? >> I had a real coffee connoisseur on. Yeah. cuz I wanted to know all about. coffee. >> Samo kind of. >> Yeah, man. Dude, it's f He brought in a. bunch of different coffees. We were. tasting like these Ethiopian blends that. almost was like lemony. >> He was like, "You taste the hints of.

lemon?" I'm like, "I do.". >> Yeah. >> Did you know all coffee comes from. Ethiopia? >> Uh-uh. >> Yes. >> Some of it comes from some of it comes I. know from um there's Kona coffee, isn't. there? >> Right. But it all originated in. Ethiopia. That's where the plant. originated. >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah. So, they moved it into South. America. also like they started making. it in Colombia. They make it in Hawaii. has bombdiggity coffee. Kona coffee is. some of the best coffee in the world. I. guess probably the soil like something. about the in Hawaii. If you if I [ __ ].

drink my own piss in Hawaii, I'm still. [laughter] it's a little better than if. I'm drinking it in [ __ ] outside of. Akran. You know what I'm saying? >> A smoke stacks in the background. Can't. be drinking a liter of piss before you. get in the sauna with your neighbor. [laughter]. >> Yeah. Or I get a little bag for my for. my. >> Someone's got a urine therapy protocol. that you have to take with your cocaine. >> Dude. Yeah, bro. Even a hot batch of. piss in Hawaii tastes way better. >> That's so true. But I drink it in. America. Like I I used to order cone of. coffee.

>> Yeah. [snorts] But yeah, I mean. >> before I went Black Rifle exclusive. >> Yeah. Well, I met the guy from Black. He's a good friend of mine. >> Nice guy. >> I love him to death. >> Yeah. He took me around whenever. whenever I was there. >> He's one of my absolute favorite people. Oh, I'm wearing one of his shirts. Look. at that dog. >> He treated me super well, dude. He's the. best, >> dude. Somebody Oh, Candace Owens sent me. that thing. It was a um. >> You got notes. >> She sent I just. >> You brought notes. >> There's things I wanted to talk about. I. just want to forget [laughter] them. >> Okay. >> My my [clears throat]. It's been hard for me to remember stuff.

>> Okay. >> So, >> I'll help you out. >> You will? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You get some Alpha Brain. Take some. Have you ever Do you ever take vitamins. for your brain? >> Nope. >> It works. >> I will take some. >> Yeah. You should there's a bunch of. different kinds [clears throat] and you. should try what you like. Um but another. real good one is um this company uh. Neuro Gum. They make neuro gum and. neuromint. >> I've heard you talk about it. >> That's really good. There's a one called. True Brain. They make like a little. shot. That's really good. >> Magic Mind I know has one that I think. is pretty good. >> That's a different one. That's a.

different kind. They use mushrooms, but. that's a good one, too. >> I think synergistically they would all. work well together. But there's legit. vitamins that work on your brain. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. that work on your memory. >> Yeah. I wanted Yeah. [clears throat]. >> Yeah. I'll probably I would like to. >> I'll give you some before we leave. I. have some Alpha Brain Black Label around. here somewhere. I definitely have a few. bottles in the kitchen, but that's the. best. Alpha Brain. I've tried them all. Even though I know I'm associated with. Alpha with on it, and I'm probably. lying. I'm not this I I tell you about. all the other ones. I don't make a penny.

off of them, but Alphabrain I think is. the best one. It's the most effective. >> and it's the the only one that I know of. that did two double blind placeboc. controlled studies with the Boston. Center for Memory. >> Alpha Brain. >> Yeah. So, we did that because a lot of. people were saying it was snake oil. >> The Boston Center for Memory. Like, how. many UCLA ass. [laughter] in 2001? You know. >> what year did the Socks make it into the. series? >> Dude, one time I was going into a show.

[clears throat] We were outside of B. We. had a show outside of Boston. It's like. a theater. It's like 15, 20 minutes. away. Um, and I'm walking in. I'm. walking in late. Everybody's already in. there. I think the show had started. And. so I'm coming in and a guy and his wife. are walking by with pizza. They're. heading in. And the guy's like, "Dothy, give him a [ __ ] pizza. The guy's. starving. He's late for work." And I'm. like, "I'm fine." And like, and first of. all, why don't you just give me your. pizza, dude? He's like, Dorothy, this. kind of like kind of big back lady. She. said that is muffling down a piece of. pizza, dude. >> He was trying to give get you to give.

her pizza. his wife to give me her. pizza. I'm like, >> but not his pizza. Interesting. That's a. bad relationship. >> He's like, "Don't you see the guy's he's. running late for work?". >> He's trying to tell his wife he's fat. and he's doing it a subtle way. >> Well, he was using me. So, I'm like, "Dothy, I'm fine." You know? >> Yeah, he was using you, >> but it was just like a like just Boston. thing [clears throat]. >> or he was just trying to have some. conversation. It might have been that. Maybe we're looking into it too much. [snorts]. >> Dude, I had a dream you were an EMT, dude. Have you ever had that? >> Really? You had a dream I was an EMT? >> Yeah. And I've had it two times.

>> that really like I was like tending to. car accidents and stuff. >> Yeah. >> Really? >> Mhm. And I think it was in Boston. I. think that's what even made me think. about it. >> I could have gone down that route in. life maybe if things had been different. That's possible. >> I could have saw that. >> That [snorts] could have happened. I. almost joined the army when I was uh 18. for their taekwondo team. There was a. dude, God, I think his name was Clay. Barber. Um he was one of the national. competitors that I I looked up to uh. when I was on my way up and he was uh in. the army and he had uh like the army.

paid him to train and I was like oh [ __ ]. you could join the army and they'll pay. you to compete you know because they had. an army boxing team like I believe Ray. Mercer was on the army boxing team when. he fought in the Olympics and won the. gold medal. >> Do you have to be but do you also have. like do you have to do service as well? >> Is that him? No, he was a a black guy. >> Oh. >> Oh, there's that. See the T window? So, it says right there to the right. >> Yeah, the the one with the right where. it says his name right there. Click on.

that. >> Which one you looking at? >> The one that your cursor is over, dog. >> Clay Barber. Right there. Yeah. So, he. was really good in like uh I guess it. was probably like 86. or Yeah. Somewhere around I was 18, so. it had to be 85 or 86. Oo, baby girl. >> But that that's the dude right there. He. was an elite um national competitor in. my weight class. >> He'll kick a [ __ ] whisper out of your. mouth. That dude's a gangster, huh?

>> Yeah, he was really good. Um but he was. competing for the Army team. And so I. was like, maybe I should join the army. And then I thought about I was like, I. don't want to get shot. Like what am I. doing? Like I I don't trust anybody. You're. >> Did you try on the clothes at home or. anything? Did you do anything? >> No, I didn't try on the clothes. I. saluted the mirror in the mirror a. couple times. >> I'm like, no, we're good. >> Yeah, dude. Yeah. I I guess I don't know. if I could see you being in the in the. army, but yeah, it was just a dream. It. was just I think it was like you. honestly I think it was like you and. Gogggins I think were maybe like EMTs or. whatever. >> That sounds like something Gogggins. would do.

>> But y'all did not [ __ ] you guys did. not deal with anybody's [ __ ] Like. you guys showed up and you were like get. the [ __ ] up. [laughter]. >> You're like what the you [ __ ] [ __ ]. I think I don't even think you had any. like I don't think you had even a step. You had like a whistle like [ __ ]. [laughter]. You know what Gogggins does that a lot. of people don't know about? He smoke. jumps. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. Like for smoke and play high. school basketball. >> That's very different. It's very. different. He he parachutes into fires.

>> Oh, yeah. That's not it. >> Like in Canada. >> for fun. >> Uh because it's hard. >> Oh, >> literally. But because it's hard to do. Dude's worth like $30 million. He jumps. out of [ __ ] planes with parachutes. and and he sent me a photo uh of a giant. ass [ __ ] grizzly track. This they. they landed in Canada at this place and. right where they landed to fight these. fires was like I mean like a grizzly. track. >> and he was like wish me luck. [laughter].

>> I was like dude get the [ __ ] out of. there. You see that track? Get the [ __ ]. out of there. That's a,00B. wild dog. >> Wow. And he just does it cuz he wants. it. >> Cuz it's hard to do. >> You're landing just in the smoke. >> Yeah. >> Now, when you get in there, do they have. a plan of where you're going? Is it. fire? It's firemen and fire women in. there. >> I Well, there's a lot of different tasks. that they do, but one of them is you're. digging a fire break. So, you're dig. Like a lot of what happens is embers. land on the ground and then that starts.

a fire, right? So, what they do is. they'll they'll clear the ground for a. wide area where the fire is coming. So, the fire's on its way. They'll get ahead. of the fire and then they'll clear a. giant path on the ground. >> Baby girl, that would scare me. >> It's scary. >> That would scare me. >> Guys die. I mean, they 100% they get. trapped and they die. The wind shifts, >> you know, things sometimes things are. unpredictable. >> Um, but he does it just cuz it's hard.

He's so crazy. Does he have to sign a. con? He must have to sign something, huh, >> bro? I don't know what he does. He. doesn't I bet he doesn't even tell him. he's David Gogggins. [laughter] He just. shows up. I'm telling you, man. He's. He's a different cat. Like, he's he's. the real deal. Like, he's not pretending. to do all these things, >> right? >> You've seen those videos where he takes. UFC fighters on workouts. >> and they're dying. Like, he took Israel. Adosana. Israel Adosagna, two-time. middleweight [ __ ] champion of. the world, one of the best to ever do. it. Elite athlete. dying. I mean, d.

couldn't keep up. Gogggins was talking. to him like, "Come on, son. Keep going.". He's like, he's throwing up in a garbage. can. Like, no [ __ ] It's crazy to. watch cuz you realize like the level of. conditioning this guy has. He's 50 years. old. He's not doing it for any reason. Like, he's not getting ready for the. World Series. He's not in the Super. Bowl. >> What do you think he's proven it to. himself? >> You would have to ask him. I mean, >> he says he's learning things. I'm.

downloading lessons like like he's just. he's that guy, man. Like. >> there's a lot of What is that? >> I found the track. Sorry. >> What is it? >> The tracks. The Grizzly tracks. >> Oh, show me. Show me. I sent it to you, right? >> Yeah, it's on my. >> Put the headphones on. All right, check. this out. >> Hang on one second. [snorts]. >> Show me. [laughter]. >> Remember that song? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> The cure. >> The cure. Yeah, they were good. They.

passed away. Huh? >> Did they? >> I think before they Yeah. >> I don't think Well, there's multiple. members. Did that guy pass away? The. lead singer of the cures. The cure. rather. >> What's the matter, Jamie? >> Well, I had it on my phone. I didn't. have it on my computer. >> Yeah. And I jumped the gun. >> Do it. But. >> dude, if you were. >> Why don't you send it to me and I'll. send it to you. [laughter] And you'll have it on your. computer. >> I found it on the [snorts]. >> Dude, if you were an EMT, that'd be. sick, huh? >> I I think it's a bummer, man.

>> I don't even think you'd get with a. vehicle. You'd pull up and be like, get. the [ __ ] up. [laughter] You know, >> I'd probably be. >> and then Gogggins would go help him. [laughter]. Gogggin, get the [ __ ] off, you little. [ __ ]. >> Don't know how to make this. >> Well, just send it to me and I'll send. it to you. >> I have it. I have it. I just bigger. >> Here it is. That's good. Give me some. volume. >> Look at that. on my way. >> See this grizzly bear prince, man. >> Look at these [ __ ] dude.

They're as big as my foot. >> [ __ ] huge. >> This is a massive [ __ ] grizzly bear. >> Look at that, dude. >> Massive [ __ ] grizzly bear. >> Look at that paw. That's crazy. >> How wide it is. >> This is [ __ ] a massive ass grizzly. bear. And as you see, >> where's it going? >> He walks right through there through. those woods. So, >> probably over the mountain. >> We are in big time grizzly bear. territory. >> Bro, that's so sketchy.

>> That's cool. >> That's so sketchy. >> He sent me that. >> Yeah, cuz I was like, "What are you. doing?" He sends me that. This is what. I'm [laughter] doing. >> Other people are like, "I'm watching. football." That's right. [laughter]. >> He's like, "I just [ __ ] parachuted. into Grizzly country.". Oh, man. There's nothing scarier than. than. big animals like that. Nothing scarier. >> I get the most scared honestly in my. life. Um, when I was young, they had. like a lot of pedophiles in our area and.

I think that kind of like made me. nervous, but probably being in the. ocean. >> You had a lot of pedophiles in your. neighborhood. >> Oh, yeah. >> Like how many? >> I mean, I think at least three is enough. for like a small area. >> Three is more than enough. >> Yeah. >> How come nobody did anything about it? >> They did. I mean, they put them in our. neighborhood or like [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> Is that what I mean? I mean, how come. nobody arrested them? Okay. >> Oh, they'd been arrested. Yeah. These. were guys who were like, uh, >> they were released. >> Yeah. They used to have this thing. Remember when they had this Well, I. wonder when that rule was. It was like.

the pedophiles had to go around door. todo. >> Oh. And let everybody know. >> No, they were pedophiles. Right. >> Right. That was a law that they passed. You had to alert people that a sex. offender had moved into the. neighborhood. >> Well, we lived our mom worked all the. time and we were just at home all the. time. So, you'd have pedophiles. literally come to the door. >> and let you know. >> Yeah. and be like, "Is your mom home?". And be like, "No." And they were like, "Well, I'm a pedophile." You're like, "Well, [laughter]. >> that's a problem.". >> Yeah. Come back after 6, you know. Uh, but so it was just crazy like, you know, but then at least you did know who the. people were,

>> but it was definitely weird that you're. setting and they they don't live in nice. neighborhoods. You you know, like now. there's a lot of like billionaire. pedophiles that our government protects. and stuff, but back then. >> You really think so? >> I don't know. >> I don't know either. That's what makes. me nervous. I don't know. >> I mean, they just had that thing that. came out about the Trump FC thing the. other day. That whole thing is just a. kickball at this point. I feel like, >> bro, have you ever seen that video of me. and Tim Dylan where Tim Dylan is laying. out the scandal that took place and like. was it the 1970s, Jamie?

>> The Franklin scandal. What year was. that? I. >> think in the 80s and 90s. >> Bro, we all dressed up like astronauts. or was that one? >> Me and Tim Dylan. No. Well, no, we're. dressed normal. >> Okay. He I don't even think he had the. crazy glasses on back then. That was. before he was protecting his eyes. Now. he protects his eyes. >> 88. >> 88. Play that video. I sent it to you, right? This video is nuts, man. This was. Tim laid this out quite a while ago and. I kind of forgot about it until it. popped up on my feed. I was like, "Oh. shit." And then I said, "I could send it.

back to you if you. >> Thank God for Tim Dylan. >> Oh my god, he's the best. There's never. been a better ranter ever in the history. of ranting. Ever. >> Ever.". >> Sin too. I bet there was somebody a long. time ago that was good, but we don't. have enough of his work to really. compete against him. >> He's the funniest by far. He's the most. sarcastic, the most tongue andcheek, and. the most well- read. Yes. >> The thing about Tim Dylan is like he. doesn't just go with narratives because. he um thinks that you want him to say. certain things. Yeah. You know what I. mean? Like he's very very well read and.

he forms his opinions based on facts and. then turns into humor. >> Yeah. >> He's the [ __ ] man. Play this. was a. it was a scandal out of Omaha, Nebraska, the Franklin Credit Union, where there. was a guy who was embezzling money and. then he was being investigated for that, but they said he's all he has all this. money because he's running an interstate. pedophile network and he's pandering. kids to, you know, people in Washington. DC and New York and it was a a headline. in the Washington Post or the Washington. Times that were like callboy get a tour. of the Reagan White House. unidentified.

White House aids in the Carter, Reagan, and Bush administrations now are being. investigated for using the services of a. callboy ring. The paper reports that two. of the male prostitutes were given a. late night tour of the White House last. year. >> And you know, this was a scandal with. real victims wanted to testify and then. people started dying. You know, the. private investigator they hired, his. plane broke up. Uh, one of the girls. that uh testified was found guilty of. perjury and that she was put in solitary. confinement. They had to use two grand. juries in Omaha to get rid of this.

scandal. And it's one of now it's not as. sexy as like a pizz or something because. it happened in the 80s and '90s, but. this shows you the blueprint for the. government, you know, using marshalling. resources to to silence people that were. victims of this stuff. This is not new. Congressman, senators, blackmail being. used by intelligence agencies. None of. it's new. It was pioneered by the mafia. You're having sex with somebody who's. underage, then they own you forever. or. if they have photo, audio, video of you. doing that.

>> Wild. Wild. So, if that existed at all in the. 1990s, okay, >> that Mitch McConnell guy was around back. then. You know, a lot of these Nancy. Pelosi type people, they've been around. since this photos of Nancy Pelosi with. JFK. Think of that. >> That was before we didn't go to the. moon. >> Yeah. >> It's 1963. >> That was before Israel didn't kill him. >> You think so? I didn't say anything. >> I heard you say Israel killed him. >> You did? >> That's what I heard. Maybe. >> Jamie, did you put something in this?

>> They didn't. The glasses. They didn't do. it. Oh, before Israel didn't do it. Oh, I see what you did. >> I think uh. >> I didn't say anything. >> I think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. >> Lee Harvey Oswald went to my middle. school. Do you know that? >> No. >> Yep. >> What? No [ __ ] Was there a plaque? >> Uh, [laughter]. no. We did have a thing. There was a. thing. >> that everybody recognized. >> Lo. Yeah. LH. you guys called him. >> Yeah, >> like Elron Hubard. [laughter].

>> LHR. They all salute Elron Hover. Salute. LHR with a big Ever see Tom Cruz with a. big pie plate medal. He got a medal for. being the most awesome guy ever. >> He [laughter] did. >> Yeah. From Scientology. And he salutes. the photo of of a science fiction. writer. Bro, it's the kookiest thing. You never seen. >> plate, >> bro. They does he even seen those. desserts Scientology awards? >> Nuhuh. >> They're. >> I can see him eating a lot of desserts. Really? >> They're amazing.

>> I didn't even know that. >> Look at that pie. >> The times now. >> Okay. These are the times we will all. remember. >> Were you there? >> What did you do? >> I think you know that I am there for you. and I do care. So very very very much. >> What is this about? Is this a Marie. Calendar's ad? >> Bro, what this is is amazing. Just watch. this. >> Okay. Sorry.

>> Guys, we're counting on you. >> Right. >> To Lrh. >> To LR. Wow. [laughter]. >> Crazy, right, bro? You want a Mission. Impossible guy? You want that guy? That's what you get. Okay? You don't get. a normal dude who's that good at acting. You get a [ __ ] crazy person. >> who's that good at being himself. >> with a pie plate around his neck. A. golden pie plate for being the most. awesome guy ever.

>> He salutes a science [laughter] fiction. author who's, by the way, one of the. worst writers in the history of writing. >> Elron, I've done the thing in New York. where they try to electrocute you and. see if you care about him or whatever. >> Oh, I I got that. >> You know what I'm talking about? I did. that in San Diego. >> You did? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> When? I was filming a TV show down there. and uh you know we were in the middle of. a break while we're filming and um they. had like a like a conference table set. up. It was like free personality test. >> and I [clears throat] was like what is. this? And I kind of knew what it was. I. knew it was dietetics, you know, which.

is Scientology. >> Mhm. >> But the guy was like they made him do. it. You could tell he was like not. enthusiastic at all about it. You know, he would like ask you questions about. like has one of your pets died like that. kind of [ __ ] like you hold his e-meter. and it would just I'm like how does this. work? Like what what is actually making. this happen? You know, I had all these. questions that he had no answers for. [laughter]. just and then I started. >> Of course you did. That's your whole. life. >> Elron Huard wrote more fiction. >> Yeah. >> than any human being that's ever lived.

>> He wrote more things that were not true, more published fiction than any human. being in the history of all human. beings. that guy, the guy that created. Scientology. >> And you know how he did it? It was all. terrible. He never wrote a second draft. Everything was just nonsense. >> One hit wonder. >> One hit wonder. That's kind of. >> typing. Uh brave. He was nuts. He was. out of his mind. >> But people liked it enough though. >> Did you ever see that show? They didn't.

though. He wasn't successful until he. really started. I mean, he was he did a. lot of those like goofy magazines and. stuff. This is a long time ago, you got. to realize. But then once he started. religion, that's when things took off. That's when like started making money. Gave himself a lot of He gave himself a. bunch of awards, too. You ever see like. he had he wore a jacket and he had like. all these awards on his chest that he. had given himself. [laughter]. >> That's crazy. [laughter]. >> They love to give awards. >> That's like the Golden Globes or. whatever. >> Yeah, same thing. You know, it really.

is. [laughter]. >> They give themselves awards for being. the most awesome people. How cra I mean. that whole it's all [ __ ] ridiculous. weird but that's what I'm feel I feel. like all of these balls of yarn that. used to feel like they made so much. sense. >> and they kept us warm and they gave us. senses of purpose I feel like all of. them are becoming unraveled but it makes. me wonder what's going to happen now are. we because these are a lot of things. that have felt like some of the. blueprints of our existence you know. >> you know what makes me nervous. >> does that make any sense to you when I.

say that 100%. >> cuz that's kind of what I guess I'm most. scared about I think like even this year. it's like some of my sense of purpose or. like I just worry that other people. don't have a sense of purpose or what's. going on and it makes me kind of scared. sometimes. >> Well, that's a good perspective and I. think it's accurate. Um, what makes me. nervous is the people that are not aware. that all of our assumptions of how the. government works, we're all based on. [ __ ] The people that still believe. that are like true believers of one side.

or the other, true faith in government. and experts, those people make me more. nervous cuz some of them are smart. That's what's crazy. When smart people. are completely unwilling to recognize. that conspiracies are not just real, but. they're also not rare, they're they're. very common. They're common and people. get away with them. Yeah. especially. when they're in positions of extreme. power like running intelligence. agencies. Like they and there's a lot of.

things that they do that are morally. reprehensible but totally legal. Like. they can do it because they're allowed. to because they are a three-letter. organization and they have ultimate. power to do a lot of like really gross. things that are in the nature or or in. the the interest of national security. So like this is the whole idea behind. it. They say like this is our our. decision. This is the best move for. national security. This is how we. compromise assets. This is how we gather. information. This is how we keep America.

safe. >> But are they're not our why is it our. FBI and CIA are working against us? That's what it feels like. They're just. tricking us about everything. It feels. like. >> they're tricking some people um on. purpose. >> But why why is that even their goal? Like I thought that they. >> because they're trying to arrest people. So this is the problem with your career. Like, and this has been explained to me. by a lot of people that are experts and. people that know. John Caracow explained. it this way. Your your reputation is. based on how successful you have been.

arresting people, cracking cases. >> And so, people set up cases so they can. break them. >> They basically set up an escape room and. they're like, I know how to get out of. here. [laughter]. >> And they pretend that they're just like. a regular wizard that stumbled into the. escape room. No, you set the whole thing. up. Yeah, that's what it is. Well, it's. the same as like. >> there's a bunch of those stories. >> Oh, I think it's the same as even with. like Hollywood and you know, I remember. one day I was walking in the Century. City Mall over there. It's in Los. Angeles. It's off of Santa Monica.

Boulevard. >> and there was a uh like a blueco collar. guy walking by. He had him like he was. working construction. They were building. something there. And I was like he's. like Theo, what's up, man? So, we're. talking for a minute and I was like, "What are y'all building?" He's like, "Dude, you're never even going to. believe this. we're building. He's like. 10 10 floors, 20 floor building. He's. like, 10 floors are uh uh talent agency. and the other 10 floors are for the CIA. And I was like, what? I was like just in. the same building just happened to be. that's what you're building. He's like, yep, that's what we're building. And he.

wasn't lying. I don't think he was lying. to me. It just seemed like a it was just. >> a weird mixture. >> Yeah. >> Right. But I think that this starts to. happen. News stories get created, right? things get whether they're fictional, whatever goes on, you don't even know a. lot of times what's news stories. You. can send actors out to create a scene. You see a video, you believe it. Um and. then they make movies. >> That's been done before, >> right? That's been done before. >> Oh, yeah. There was but then you see. movies and stuff come out later about. it. So, it's like you're almost creating.

your own um news to then make like a uh. based on a real story. You know what I'm. talking about? >> Yeah. >> Like it's all just a. >> I guess. [laughter]. Yeah. Like they they let the talent. agencies know that they're about to do. this so you can start casting the the. dramatic. [laughter]. >> It makes sense cuz it's like then you're. just you're. >> God. >> But it's just like what do we do? You. know, >> well they've been doing this forever. They've been doing this forever and you. know they've been shaping our views of. war and you know that's one of the. reasons why they started making all.

these war movies. >> Do you know that? [clears throat]. >> Okay. So, in World War I, one of the. problems that they had was people didn't. want to be over there killing people. Yeah. >> And so, people were shooting, but they. weren't shooting at the actual enemy. They would like shoot over their heads. or shoot to the left of them and to the. right of them. They didn't want to kill. people. >> And they realized like that you take. people just regular people from the city. and from the farm and put them in a. uniform and tell them they have to go. kill people. This is no YouTube back.

then, no television back then, right? So. their ideas of what's right and wrong. are all based on their life. Yeah. Their. actual life. And so then they realized, well, we've got to do something about. that. And so after that, they started. creating all these really patriotic war. movies where the guys are heroes. They. go over and they shoot all the bad guys. and then they're awesome. So then the. next group of people that go to war are. all going to be indoctrinated with these. films. And these films are that. America's the best and we're number one.

We're going to go over there and this is. how you get all the girls. You be a. [ __ ] hero and go over there and shoot. those Germans. >> Yeah. And come back and play with a tit. >> Exactly. Come back and get ridden like a. [ __ ] cowboy. >> Yeah. >> Tits will be here when you get off the. boat. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> baby girl. >> And that's uh that's what they did. They. they mean. >> makes sense. >> for sure. Advertising. >> The CIA and you know various federal. organizations have a say in how. America's portrayed in movies, right?

Right. It's like if you're going to get. access to if you're going to do some. film on the, you know, the Pentagon or. something like that, you you bet [ __ ]. this better make us look good, you know? They're not going to let you make them. look like a bunch of bumbling [ __ ]. retards that are just doing it for their. career. No, you better make us look. good. You can't fake what the Pentagon. is, [ __ ] You know, and you're like, "Okay, sir. What? Tell me how you'd like. Mr. Cruz to talk about his work.". >> And you know, you'd make them look like. the most awesome human beings that have. ever been. So that way you like you want.

to support them, you want to fund them, and you want to listen to them when they. talk it on the news. >> Well, in a lot of like the projects, I. think they have to have people from. these organizations that come and like. oversee how the organization is. presented, right? >> Yeah. So, it's like if you want to do. something where the Navy's involved, you. have to have people there from the Navy. that are like overseeing it and making. sure that everything is uh presented um. to, you know, to be true to the Navy, but also like there could be maybe some. manipulation there. But we just had Gary. Sice was on the podcast. Man, it was.

really cool. >> Oh, he's cool, >> dude. If you ever want to donate to. something or people do, man, what just. an impressive his whole organization is. >> What is he doing? >> Well, he does a lot of stuff for. veterans, right? He does a lot of stuff. for first responders, you know, or EMTs. >> Um, he does a lot of stuff for um. >> he does this thing where they take kids. who have lost a fan a parent to the in. uh military action. Um he takes them to. Disney World every year like this big.

group of them, you know. Um. >> just but just like really. >> like does it, you know, like he has a. band that plays. He there's a bunch of. organizations. cuz he was like one of. the first responders of um out there. feeding people uh feeding the first. responders who were there at the. Palisades when that happened. Just like. a lot of neat stuff, you know, did. >> you ever think you'd be in the position. you're in where you're just having all. these weird conversations with. interesting people? >> Cuz this is not like. >> No. >> When I first met you, I would have never.

suspected that this would be a path that. you would go down. >> Yeah. Not at all. You know, it's. interesting that you went down that like. how what what led you to want to start. doing that? >> Well, I think a couple of things. I. think um. >> well, I think I I didn't know I was kind. of competitive in some ways, >> you know, like I think um. I think I'm kind of competitive. Like I. want to see what's possible that's maybe. inside of me, >> you know? [clears throat]. >> So competitive with yourself or.

competitive with other people that are. also doing it? um just competitive. because I think I I there was I felt. like maybe some people thought this. thing like oh this guy can't do it. >> you know interesting. >> I don't think that's I think there were. some people that maybe like oh I'm. surprised that this guy enjoys this or. likes doing it but I think there was. like. yeah that this guy can't do it and I. just never had a voice when I was a kid. you know I never had a voice. >> like. >> you know so much of my childhood I think.

I just couldn't even speak up for myself. I didn't even know what I wanted to say. I didn't even know what my feelings. were, right? I just. >> right. >> I was just like this. I just. >> it it just felt. tough, you know? And so I think when. >> yeah, when I started to kind of get into. podcasting and have a little bit more of. a voice. >> and then. >> to get to talk to some people that I. that that that I felt like were. important that weren't getting voices, like even like we had a doctor from Gaza. on last year. >> or this year and that was like a moment.

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checkout. That's blinds.com. Promo code Rogan40. Limited time offer. Rules and restrictions apply. >> And it just. >> Well, that's not what they do, you know? I mean, the the reason why we can do. what we do is because there's not really. anyone over there doing they never. figured this out before. They never. figured out that hey, there's a lot of. people that are in their car for hours. every day. They're on the train for. hours every day. They're in the gym. They're doing different stuff where they. want to listen to things. Or when they. come home, they don't want to watch late. night TV. They want to watch an.

interesting conversation, you know, >> and that just they didn't know that that. was a thing. That's all that was. We. snuck in. I think we snuck in. I think. they had no idea. They thought this was. just shitty radio. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> and I think my whole life, I think. people looked at me and thought, "Oh, this dude's just [ __ ] shitty radio, >> you know, or off the beat like that in a. way, you know." Well, I think like when. was. >> and I still think it is my show. I mean, look, I feel lucky to have a show. We. work hard, you know, with podcasting. I. feel lucky to get to talk to a lot of. people. I don't think we do a lot of.

information type of stuff, you know, and. I wish we could do better with that. sometimes. I think maybe that's a goal. of mine next year is to try to learn. more stuff just in the day-to-day so I. can have conversations that are maybe. more important, but then also maybe. that's not what I'm supposed to do and. I'm just supposed to be just having. conversations that are fun. And so, >> well, I it's what you're supposed to do. if that's what you want to do. >> But what I think is the only important. thing, the only important thing. >> is what you want to do. >> Yeah. And. >> to be genuinely curious about whatever.

you're talking about. >> I agree. >> You know, and then hopefully be talking. to someone who's telling the truth. That's where it gets weird. >> You know, sometimes people will be. charismatic and they'll be very. persuasive, but it it turns out they. have an agenda. They're not telling the. truth. And you might not know that. that. that becomes a problem. Yeah, I realize. some people are taking advantage of the. fact that uh that they'll come on and I. I sometimes have been a little bit naive. to think that somebody would do that, but people do do that. >> Oh, 100%. Like heads of state, you know, like if you're going to have someone.

who's the president of a country that's. in the middle of a war and they want to. come on your podcast and talk, you're. not you're going to you're not going to. get anything objective. You're going to. get them selling that they're the good. guys. And uh that's weird. That's a. weird one because unless you're an. absolute expert in what is going on in. that region and you know exactly what's. true and what's not and there's two very. compelling and very loud narratives, you. know, good luck. Good luck sorting out. that conversation. I'm not interested in. having those conversations, but I am. interested in having conversations with.

people that I' that I think are. intriguing, you know, that I think are. being honest and uh whether I agree with. them or not, they're being honest and. they're intriguing. That's what I like. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I think some of that is. me learning a little bit more. I mean, I. think I do like having stuff where. people have more feelings and their. stories about stuff, you know? So, that's something that I would maybe like. to focus on more next year, like. people's genuine genuine human. experiences, you know, like a guy or a. woman or a kid, somebody who's been. through something, you know, wants to. share some of that.

>> So, maybe that's something I'll try to. get into a little bit more. Um, >> I don't know. But yeah, I just feel. lucky. Like my mom listens to my podcast. every week, you know, and we never got. to spend any time together when I was a. kid. So sometimes that kind of even. keeps me going, you know? >> It's like she's like our biggest fan. And so. >> it's weird. >> Got to make her proud. >> It was just so weird when I was a kid. like she didn't have any time and then. now she just like, you know, she loves. Yeah. So I think Yeah. I don't know. And. it's like just afforded me a lot of like. just neat opportunities. Yeah. sometimes.

talking to people like we got to learn. about like the healthc care last year. and how you know a lot of these. political parties have put forward these. um like um like these presidential. what's it called when they sign. something like this is an order like an. executive order right. >> that price transparency needs to happen. with healthcare right and so that was. something that I realized was super. important to me. >> because. >> like Bernie Sanders agrees with it Trump. agrees with it uh Thomas Massie agrees. with that Ro Khan agrees with. There's.

all these people that say they agree. with it and everybody says, but it never. really gets to where it needs to be, right? So, you can go to a place and a. hospital can charge you anything for an. MRI, right? They're supposed to show. their prices like a menu. >> And if they do that, then they have to. compete. You could call two places. This. person's like, "Well, it's 30,000. bucks." And this person's like, "No, it's 700 bucks.". >> So, you're going to go there, >> right? But they they keep it vague so. they can like keep the prices really. high and then they can keep this whole. insurance rigomearroll going on.

>> Well, they're private corporations. That's what's nuts and the private. companies own hospitals. They're. private, you know. So that's why they're. hoping. >> that they're there for your best. interest. What they're there is to make. the most money possible and to one of. the ways they do that is they're. incentivized to give you certain. medications financially. financially. incentivized to give you certain. pharmaceutical products and they make. more money if they do that. I had Mary. Tally Bowden on the podcast. She's a. respiratory um physician and she uh.

doctor, whatever it is. Um she was. saying that if she vaccinated all of her. patients, she has a very small practice. She vaccinated all of her patients for. COVID, she'd have made $1.5 million. >> Wow. >> Like that's that's motivation. Like. that's not. >> for sure. Someone someone's not going to. they're not going to give you objective. advice unless they they're a really good. person like she is. They're not going to. give you objective advice. What they're. going to say is, "Hey, they say you. should take it. I say you should take.

it, too, because I want to go I want to. go golfing.". >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> I want a BMW and I want to go golfing. So, take it. >> I don't care if you're in a [ __ ]. wheelchair in three weeks at a. mocarditis. >> I want an M5. I've got it picked out. already. I want the carbon interior, [laughter]. >> carbon fiber accents. >> It's just Yeah. So, >> but like. >> it's a trap. >> It's a trap. But learning about like. that kind of stuff like things like that. used to be like, "Oh, this is a little. cause that like means something to me.". You know, because then you think there.

are people probably right now that are. afraid to go get health care because it. and all then it messes up your credit, right? Like the number one cause of. bankruptcy in America is medical debt. >> Yep. >> Yeah. Think that's crazy. >> It's crazy. So now you're in debt and. now this the stress of that it's like. >> the also the problem is this system is. so deeply intertwined in our society. that to unwind it now and somehow or. another start some sort of competent. social medicine but that's the other. problem is socialized medicine has not.

been effective anywhere like everywhere. else like the difference between it's. really a difference between money like. if you have money in America and you. break your leg you can go to a really. good doctor and you get your leg fixed. break your leg, >> right? If you have money and if you're. using if you have socialized medicine. and you're in England, for instance, I. have a lot of friends in England that. have they use the socialized medicine. there. They have it in Canada. Like my. friend in Canada, it took her a year to. get a knee reconstruction and they did a. terrible job of it. They repaired her. ACL and she's still she's [ __ ] She.

can't fully straighten her leg out. >> Yeah. Every time she [ __ ] look Yeah. She just moonwalks everywhere. >> She's got a limp. A noticeable limp. They just [ __ ] it up. They did a. shitty job. And you know, look, that. could happen in America, too. But you. could get an operation quicker here. It. But it's really just money. And the real. problem with America is that you could. have something really wrong with you and. you have insurance. And then your. insurance denies you coverage for what's.

wrong with you. Like Ben Ascrin, you. know the story with Ben Asrin? >> I know he's been getting better, right? >> He's been getting better. He had a. double lung transplant. He had lung and. the insurance didn't cover it. How How could you not cover that? Guy. gets sick. It turns out he's a very rare. like I think it was like a staff. infection or some kind of bacterial. infection that was eating his lungs. >> So they had to put him on a respirator. He's on a respirator for a long time. Then they had to give him a double lung.

transplant. >> and insurance companies didn't cover it. >> Yeah. >> It's like what are you even there for? And then the stress. Imagine his wife. probably or who him he is in and out of. consciousness. He has to call them. probably and just the stress of like we. can't do it. Can you fill out these. form? Just that it's almost like they. just want to kill you with the stress. It's just. >> they just want to spend the least amount. of money possible and make the most. amount of money possible. >> But when does it United Healthcare. there's something about United. Healthcare that's attached to this. government shutdown bill too. the reason. why they were shutting down the guy.

there. There there's something about the. flow of money to United Healthcare, which is, you know, that company where. that guy got assassinated. Everybody. cheered cuz also cuz Luigi's kind of. hot. >> Good looking guy. >> I didn't I didn't see it. >> You didn't see Luigi? >> No, I'm joking. Yeah, I thought he. looked pretty. I mean, he's fine. Yeah, I like Yeah, I like women. >> Handsome hero. >> Yeah, but still handsome guy. >> I'm not saying you don't like women, but. you know, I'm not saying you [ __ ]. alligators, but you know what looks. like. >> Come on, dog. [laughter]. >> You're right about that. Good call. Hey, I ain't gay, but I'll hold it in my.

mouth till the gay guy gets there. >> I go, if I told you it's an alligator, you wouldn't be like, "Bro, I'm not. gay.". >> You would say, "Yes, it is an. alligator.". >> You my. >> Oh, yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? [laughter]. Like, I'm saying Luigi's handsome and. you're like, "I'm not gay." And I'm. like, "That's not what I asked.". >> Right. >> I asked you if you can see things. >> Take those [ __ ] shitty fake glasses. off. Maybe you can tell Luigi's a. handsome man. >> Helping or not. [laughter]. You know, a lot of people [snorts] think. that Luigi was like some M MK Ultra. thing. They they tricked him and.

hypnotized him and got him to go in and. shoot that guy. >> Well, I think there's a lot of that. going on. And yes, I did have dinner at. Candace someone's house recently, so. maybe, [laughter]. >> you know, I I have there's definitely, you know, uh. >> a lot of conspiratorial foods on the. menu over there, you know. Uh I don't. know if I'd say that. I mean, they had. like an unvaccinated quail with like an. mRNA demiglaze, so maybe, you know, kind of they. >> bro they're trying to vaccinate cows. Do. you know about that? >> They uh. >> they're trying to give cows mrna.

vaccines. >> Are they really? >> Yeah. >> They're just trying to use the. technology to make money. If you really. think they're doing it to protect the. cows, you're out of your [ __ ] mind. Any of this stuff is just about money. Cows are fine. There's nothing wrong. with the cows. The cows are doing that. then. >> Let the cows eat grass. They'll be even. better. That's what they're supposed to. be eating. Let them all eat grass. They'll be fine. But occasionally some. cows will get sick. Bruceosis is real. It's when bisons and cows intermingle. You know, bisons give cows brucyosis and. it kills a bunch of them. But other than. that, [ __ ] relax.

>> Yeah, relax. >> Well, it just never ends. There's It. feels like there's everything. There's. there's just always a problem with. everything. I don't know. Maybe. >> the worry that people have is that. somehow or another that stuff's going to. get into your food. >> Well, they're right. Probably. >> Yeah. Yeah, they're right because. they've already talked about somehow or. another getting mRNA vaccines into. vegetables so that you wouldn't even. have to get vaccinated. You can get it. from your diet. Like. [sighs]. they tried to give me a tetanis shot the.

other day. >> It doesn't even work. >> What tetanis shot? >> No, the [ __ ] mRNA vaccines. You're. putting it in food and it doesn't even. work. >> Dude, I'm not taking it. >> It doesn't work when you take it. People. aren't even taking it anymore and now. you're trying to put it in food. >> What are they putting it in? You said. radish or what was it? >> Cucumber. >> Radishes. I don't know. They were trying. to put it in vegetables. It's like I. mean I think it's theoretical at this. point, but I know Bill Gates was talking. about it. [snorts]. >> I just feel it's like when does it end? Like when is it like. >> it ends when they stop making money? As. long as they can figure out a way to. trick you into thinking that you need.

something. >> or or you know you're not going to make. any money. Did you know that tetanus you. were talking about tetanus? Did you know. tetanus is a bacteria and it's extremely. rare in America? Like very very very. very very few people ever get tetanas. You think tetanus comes from a dirty. nail like a step on a nail. No. Tetanus. is a bacteria. >> Yeah. >> And it and it can be cleaned out. And. also tetanus is the one of the rare. vaccines that works as a prophylactic. like after the fact like you could get.

step on a nail. You don't have tetanus. yet. They give you the tetanus vaccine. after you stepped on the nail and it. still [clears throat] protects you. No, it protects you, >> right? So you don't need to take it. Tetanus is super rare in America. It's. not You could completely fix it by. cleaning out the wound and if you get. tetanus, they just inject you with the. tetanus vaccine then. Like there's no. need to give tetanus shots to baby. >> Yeah. They were saying maybe you should. get it and I was like I don't even know. if I've had it, you know, but I don't.

want it. I don't want anything else. >> You probably had it when you were young. >> Yeah. Yeah. I think I had that but. they're like you should get it every 10. years. I'm like I don't know. I don't. care. I'll be fine. I'm okay. >> It's real common in other countries. Like apparently it's they say the. >> tetanus is. >> Yeah. >> It's a bacteria. I didn't know it was a. bacteria. I thought it was something you. got from rusty nails, >> you know? >> Oh, >> but it makes sense if it's a v vaccine. that it's protecting you from something. that's kind of alive. A vir like a virus. is kind of alive, right? Like they don't.

consider it a life form, but I mean it. seems like it spreads. It gets in a. bunch of different people. It needs the. person as a host. It seems like it's a. kind of life. >> A vi I mean. >> it's trying to consume you. It's trying. to destroy your body and you're fighting. it off. >> Yeah. >> And it it hops from you to your kids to. your neighbor to, you know, it's kind of. alive and it kind of needs a person. If. it's propagating, right? If it's. spreading like what is it?

>> A virus. >> Yeah. I mean, you're you're I don't. think they consider viruses a life form, but it sounds a lot like a different. kind of life form. Like a parasitic life. form. >> That's what it sounds like, >> doesn't it? >> I mean, I don't think they're saying. that it's not. They're saying that it's. bad, right? A virus. >> No, I don't think I don't think they. consider it a life form. Like, do they. consider viruses a life form? Put that. in Perplexity. We have a sponsor. We. have an AI sponsor. >> I use Perplexity. >> Yeah, it's really good. >> So, let's find out if they consider Put. that [ __ ] in there. Let's find out if. they consider virus as a life form.

because I don't think they do. I think. it's considered something different. >> Dude, I'm so uh. I'm so. >> Here we go. Is a virus considered a life. form? Virus is generally not considered. life forms by most biologists primarily. because they cannot carry out the basic. processes of life independently such as. metabolism, growth, or self-sustained. reproduction without a host cell. However, this status is debated in. scientific circles due to virus's.

ability to carry genetic material, reproduce inside host cells, and evolve. through natural selection. >> Yeah, I'm I'm with those folks. It's a. life form. >> It's a weird life form. And here's the. crazy thing. >> If you think about it that way, then you. got to think about gain of function. research. >> Gain of function research is like taking. a grizzly bear and go, that grizzly bear. should be on roids. and you take a. grizzly bear and you jack them up on. trend and you you give them testosterone.

and cocaine and then let them loose in. the woods. That's what gain of function. research is. And our government was. funding that. They were funding making. more evil life forms. And that's where. CO 19 came from. It came from our tax. dollars that goes off to this lab where. they're working on making a a life form. more vicious to people. >> What do they want? It's a [ __ ]. weapon. That's what I think. >> But didn't they just use it against us? >> They Well, I think it got out. I don't. think they tried to use it against us.

That's what I think. But I think that. they 100% are developing these things to. dump them on other countries. That's a. fact. They've always done that. >> But why at this point? >> They've done tons of research that that. show that the United States has been. involved in stuff like that forever. There was actually bioweapons labs that. were in Ukraine when the when the war. broke out that the United States was. somehow involved with that were Put that. in there. But. >> put that in there. What bioweapons labs. was the United States involved with in.

Ukraine? Or how about this instead of. being leading? Were boweapons labs. discovered in Ukraine? >> Baby girl, >> let's put that in first and see what it. says. And then I'm going to ask it. Were. they funded by the United States? Can I. see it? No bioweapons labs have been discovered. in Ukraine according to the United. Nations, the US, Ukraine, and multiple. independent experts. The allegations. made by Russia and echoed by some.

Chinese officials involve claims that US. funded laboratories involved in military. biological activity were operating in. Ukraine. But these claims have been. consistently have consistently been. denied and refuted by international. authorities. That doesn't mean anything. Independent investigations and. statements by the UN uh disarmament. chief confirm there is no evidence of a. biological weapons program in in. Ukraine. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Um are there any stories online about.

boweapons labs discovered in Ukraine? >> Would be this. >> the allegations made by Yeah. But we. don't know that that's true. So here's. the thing. If the United States is. running bio or funding bioweapons labs. in Ukraine and it doesn't become a. national news item, are you think. they're going to come up and say, "You're right. We did it." No, they're. not. But if you're going to if you're. going to fund bioweapons research in. China and in a lot of other places,

>> what are there stories about the. discovery? Let's see what it says here. Uh, stories about the alleged discovery. of bioweapons labs in Ukraine have. circulated widely, primarily promoted by. Russian officials and state media. >> But these claims have not been. substantiated by independent sources or. international organizations. Nor could. they be like, what are you going to do? You going to get in there and [ __ ]. rat everybody out in the middle of a. war? They're going to kill you. Like,

>> yeah, they wouldn't let that out. Um, Chinese foreign ministry and various. conspiracy theorists have also amplified. these stories, including claims of 26. bolabs and illegal research discovered. by Russian forces. >> I don't I would hate to work at one of. those places, >> right? >> Yeah. Okay, here's a problem here. Right. here. International news organizations. and independent scientists, including. the BBC and experts at King's College. London, have reviewed the alleged. evidence and found it lacking, noting.

that the pathogens and documents cited. by Russia, are consistent with public. health research, not weapons. development. Okay. Public health. research is one of the ways that they do. weapons development. They do it under. the guise of public health research. That's that's the whole original premise. of gain of function research. We're. doing this so that we could figure out. how to heal people and and if these. diseases do come our way, we know more. about them because we've been. researching them. Like, okay, so the. problem with the BBC saying it, well, we.

just found out the BBC is full of [ __ ]. >> That that whole thing with Trump where. they took a speech and they edited it. and put a part that's more than 50. minutes later in the in the sentence to. end the sentence. Like, they completely. changed what he had to say. The the head. of BBC had to resign. This is a giant. scandal. So, I don't trust that. But I don't know who's telling the truth. or who's not because if I was Russia and. I had invaded Ukraine. I would also say. we found boweapons labs and maybe there. weren't any. You know, maybe it is a.

lie. Well, it's the same with like the. weapons of mass. It's all it's like it's. just so hard to know what's real, you. know, at our level of just like being a. consumer. >> See if you can find online a story so we. could pick apart the story that says. bioweapons labs found in Ukraine. >> It's tough to know who to tr. It's just. tough to know where to trust things. So. I think you just have to. >> true but but there there's a fact that. we have had bioweapons research and so. has Russia. There's a this is a story. that I did when I did that show Joe. Rogan questions everything. I I. interviewed a guy who used to be a part.

of Russia's bioweapons research program. and he explained to me how are they. creating anthrax and they had all these. boweapons available and I said do you. think that there's a possibility that. they were making various infectious. diseases he said absolutely that was. that was research that was being done. and then we went down to Galveastston. Texas and we went to one of those bio. research labs that they have in America. one of those giant crazy labs where. everybody wears the hazmat suits and.

there's tubes that come off their suit. and they're working with like Ebola and. all this like super. >> and his perspective was what he was. worried about was not something made in. a lab. What he was worried about is some. sort of a natural jump that um goes from. animals to people and just wipes us out. That's this was this one doctor told me. >> I don't know. Oh, I feel. >> the problem was I would say that too if. I was in the middle of gain of function. research. I'd say this stuff is nothing. Don't worry about this. What I'd really.

worry about is chickenpox from chickens. >> Yeah. >> Is that the big thing now? >> I don't know. >> Well, dude, in our I I I I just don't. even know. It's like I don't know if. they'd want to wipe us all out, though, because then there's nobody for these. like dark lords to play with. I feel. like. >> I don't think they want to wipe us all. out, but I think they want to keep us as. controlled as possible, as scared as. possible. You see what they did in. Canada? They just shot 300 ostriches for. no reason. >> [ __ ] that. And Canadians, dude, who also. have very good posture. Ostrich is.

probably great posture for a bird, would. you say? >> Well, they have that crazy neck, right? They have to have that posture, otherwise it'll fall down, right? >> Yeah. But still, >> imagine if your neck was like 3 feet. long. That would be crazy. >> Best posture I've ever seen in the. world. Toronto. Oh yeah. If you had a [ __ ]. three-foot neck, dude. >> How crazy. Like everywhere you go, your. neck's like a tail, >> bro. Have you seen you around? >> Have you seen those giraffes with a. little neck? >> What? pulling [ __ ] up. Cut. >> Oh, I have seen that. It's like a cousin. of a giraffe. It looks like an antelope. >> It's like a giraffe. >> Yeah. What are those called?

>> Like Mexican giraffes or whatever. >> No, no, no, no. They live in Africa. >> Or. >> Whoa. That's crazy. [snorts]. >> Want to Oh, look at that, >> bro. That's weird. Wait a minute. Is. that Is that. >> That's AI dog. That's what it looks. like. >> The short neck giraffe native. >> This looks more fake. >> Really? >> Yeah, that looks way fake. They're. wearing freaking bowler hats from what. they look like. No, I think that's. genuinely genuinely what they look like. >> That's the one right there. >> That's it. >> That's that thug. That's kind of how I'm. built. >> That is a weird giraffe, man.

>> They're from Wakanda. I don't know if. that's real. >> Interesting. Oh, from Wakanda. So, they're real. That's real. >> That's definitely real. >> Everything, [laughter] bro. That's the. thing. You can't. >> You can't tell. >> There's no information anymore. It's all. just a blender of [ __ ] who knows. Anything you put into TikTok, the next. story, it's merged your last three. searches into a new into a new Sora is. making new things and it looks so real. It just like I don't even know what if. information even mean. It's just it's. everything feels so bizarre, you know. >> Don't you feel like that? >> Uhhuh. And it's getting weirder.

>> It's getting weirder and harder to tell. what's true. >> by the month. It's getting weirder fast. >> Yeah. It's getting it's getting very. strange. >> So, you got to lock in. I'm trying to. think of the things that just even still. feel real to me sometimes. You know, >> I think uh this is a real important time. to minimize the amount of time you're. online. >> Yeah. This is uh as things get. squirrelier and squirrelier, check in. every now and then, but don't allow. yourself to be looking at that goddamn. thing all day. Yeah. Because that's part. of what's wrong with us is we're staring.

at these goddamn things all day and. they're just hypnotizing us with. [ __ ] and just at the end of the day, you're confused, aimless, you go to. sleep, you feel depressed. You wake up. in the morning, you get up in the middle. of the night to piss, you're like, "What. is life?". >> Yeah. >> You go back to bed, you're like, "What. am I doing?". >> Yeah. >> Those things do that. You take away. those things and life is pretty normal. >> Yeah, >> they are amplifiers of anxiety. >> Oh, that's for sure. >> For sure. Well, it's even like um they. had uh that like a lot of these shooters.

like people that have like you know. these young guys who become what's it. called when you see stuff online and it. makes you more radicalized. >> radicalized. Right. >> How are some of these companies not. legally liable? Like if you go to a. restaurant, right? >> Right. um and somebody poisons you, you could. you could take something up with that. restaurant. You poison a bunch of people. may sue the restaurant or have some. recourse against that restaurant, the. food establishment. But that but these.

these entities like these social media. plays like if they radicalize someone. and they go shoot somebody or something, there's no like accountability for the. company. It doesn't you know what I'm. Well, the company is not radicalizing. people and I think there's a it's a real. danger what you're saying because you. know what the what you're saying is. you're opening the door to censorship. You're opening the door to the. government saying we're here to protect. you so you can't talk about certain. things because these things can. radicalize you because anybody's. definition of what radicalizes people is. >> it's very variable right like during co.

I could have been considered someone who. radicalizes people against taking a. COVID vaccine. that I could have been. seen as a science denier and a dangerous. person that has to be silenced. You have. to remove them from public discourse. So. what you're saying by like people. getting radicalized, who that's the. problem like who's getting radicalized. and who's doing it and what is the real. reason why you're getting radicalized. because you you don't know who the [ __ ]. you are. >> So you could be getting radicalized for. the better or for the worse, too. For. sure. >> So you're just really getting educated. really. There's people that get.

radicalized towards, you know, radical. ideas of fitness and will and and. discipline because, you know, pay. attention to Jaco every morning. There's. you can get what is radicalized? You. could be a radical you could be into. radical kindness. >> You know, you you get radicalized to. just be kind to people. >> Yeah. >> It's all dependent upon what what are. you talking about and who's doing it. So. why would the social media platform be. in trouble for doing nothing other than. giving people a voice? But the algorithm. is there an algorithm that at a certain.

point. >> that's where it gets weird algorithm. >> that's more what I mean then is the. algorithm isn't there some liability to. an algorithm like a certain. >> but here's the problem the algorithm. amplifies what you like so you have to. decide what you're looking at. >> right. >> like you have to have some personal. responsibility because. >> most of my algorithm particularly like. on YouTube is all just stuff I like it's. all fun stuff it's all interesting it's. all ancient history stuff you know cool. cars that people are building that's it. that's most of it fights pool matches. professional pool matches, a lot of Muay.

Thai. It's all stuff I'm into. It's. nothing is so like why is your algorithm. [ __ ] up? Because that's the stuff. you're clicking on all the time. And a. lot of things I don't know if you could. do it on Instagram. Can you do it like I. don't like posts like this where you. right click on things? >> Yeah, I think you can. But you and I do. it on Google News feed and I like if. it's a young person is there any more is. should there be anything like I agree. there is a love there's it's always. personal responsibility and I think. we're probably in a space where more. than ever personal responsibility.

it's going to be start to thin the herd. because it's like who can you know have. like control over their own wherewithal. you know and what they absorb. Well, we. have to learn from other people's. mistakes, right? And we kind of are. better at that than like, okay, we're. better at that as a society than say. when societies with alcohol for. instance, than a society where alcohol. gets introduced into that society where. they don't have a history of alcohol. Generally speaking, that destroys. civilizations.

>> You mean if a place does like when they. gave alcohol like to Native Americans, it's a perfect example. Native Americans. had no history of alcohol use. United. States troops came through did two. things. One, killed 90% of them with. disease. So 90% of the Native Americans. died from disease because they were. exposed to smallpox and all sorts of. horrible [ __ ] that the Europeans carried. over with them. So 90% of them died from. that. And then they got pushed into. reservations. They got like they got.

slaughtered by people with guns and all. they lost all their land. And then also. they get introduced to alcohol. So both. everything gets super depressing and you. get introduced to alcohol and that is. devastating to a society. And to this. day reservations have very high rates of. alcohol and drug abuse. Very high rates. on Native American reservations. >> Oh yeah. >> But if you they're really drinking over. there. >> But if you look at us like regular pe. like we're talking about alcohol today,

right? We're talking about I don't I. barely drink anymore. I'll have a drink. every now and then and I had one. recently. But that's it. Like you can. you can I know how to do that. I come. from a culture of people who drink. It's. common. You know, people drink wine with. dinner. It's calm. It's normal. You. figure out how to regulate it for the. most part. But there's people who won't, right? Yeah. >> But it's not as bad as when there's. there no one knows what to do because. you've never had it before and then once. you get it, you're you're [ __ ] That's. the problem also with censorship. That's.

the problem with like social media. Like. you're we're the first people to get it. So we're like basically the Native. Americans of social media. Like we're. getting it for the first time and it's. wrecking our society. >> Yeah. >> Not to the same level that it did to. Native Americans because it also carries. a lot of positives. >> It does let you distribute information. You learn about things. There's a lot of. positives that come with social media, but also we're the first people that. don't know how to handle it. Yeah. the. grandchildren and great-grandchildren of. us, they will have a much better.

understanding of what not to do and what. to do. Oh, I have an uncle who is uh an. addict. >> Yeah, >> he's a Twitter addict. He's a real. problem. All he does is yell about. politics. He's on his phone 16 hours a. day. He doesn't pay attention to his. life. He's losing his job because he's a. Twitter addict. >> There's people like that just like. there's people that are drug addicts. But these are the first ones. >> Got it. I hadn't thought about it like. that. >> Yeah. We got to learn how to regulate. and I think people are going to learn. like a lot of kids are using apps now. that limit the amount of time that.

they're on their social media for like. one hour a day you know and. >> are they you think a lot of these kids. are doing that kids that are that want a. better life. >> Yes. at kids that recognize that you. could waste time. And when you waste. time over long, you know, like junior. high school into high school, you really. start realizing it and you see the. difference between people who don't. waste time and really get after it and. get things done. And then you see the. people that are falling by the wayside. And that's a pattern that establishes. >> when you're a teenager pretty much for. the whole rest of your life. You know, I.

knew people that were kind of nerd do. dwells in high school that really never. got into anything and they never they. never tried hard at anything and they. stayed like that. >> Yeah. I think it's hard to make a really. it's hard to make a change in your life, you know. >> Very hard. >> Um. >> very very hard to make a change in how. you see life. >> Yeah. >> You know, and then you're not going to. change your life unless you change the. way you see life. >> Yeah. Do you [snorts] um let me think. about something else. [laughter] Sorry. My brain sometimes gets hard to like.

keep going. >> Um, how are the fights, man? Did you. have fun? >> Yeah. Yeah, it's always fun. Mass Square. Garden's crazy. It's It's There's a few. buildings in this world that have like a. a tangible feel when you're when you're. in them. Like, woo, this is the garden, bro. I've been there a ton of times. I. performed there. It doesn't matter. Every time I go there, when I walk into. that building, I'm like, woo, we're at. the [ __ ] garden. >> Yeah. >> Got to be on your P's and Q's, son. We. got to be ready to go. in the garden. I. think fighters feel it too. I think they.

get extra amped to fight in the garden. >> Yeah. Dustin said that he went to watch. the fights. Was there a lot of um Was. there? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I didn't get to watch. >> Yeah. Anic DC and me. >> Let's go. >> And Megan. Megan was there too. Megan. Levy. Oh, she's the best. person. >> Her and her husband. They're both salt. of the earth. >> The best. >> The best. >> Their whole I mean I will say this. They. have one of the best staffs of any. sporting group I've ever been around in. my life. >> For sure. Yeah. The UFC staff is very. much like a family.

>> Amber, Nicole, that. >> we all know each other so well. We've. hung out together so long. Like. everybody's all hugging everybody. backstage. It's a beautiful place to. work. >> And Bruce is doing his stretches. There's so many little things going on. and you just get to see them all happen. It's always the same people, you know. And um. >> yeah, we travel around the world. together. Well, I don't anymore, but I. used to travel with those guys around. the world. And they, you know, they'll. they'll go from here and now they're. going to Cotter the. >> I was gonna go. >> Were you really? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, man. That's a long ass flight, son. >> I know. I went over there.

>> They're gonna make you put on the. outfit. >> I put on the outfit already once. >> Did you like it? >> Yeah. >> You thinking maybe I could live here if. I get in trouble? [laughter]. >> I thought they were I thought they were. going to take my life and not let me. come back. Not them. But you just never. know in the Middle East what's going on, you know. >> Yeah. What does that uh outfit mean? It. >> It's called a throbe. I think you can. see a picture of me in it. Yeah, I've. seen it. They use it to to attack you. for stuff online. >> Oh, yeah. >> You're in the pocket type [ __ ] Boy, look at that [ __ ]. >> bro. It looks good.

>> I like how theirs has a collar. >> It's a little more modern. >> I think you have to put the head thing. on like if you're like listening to. music or whatever. >> Be a real problem if you're grappling. with that thing, though. Limit your uh. hip movement. People could control you a. little bit better. >> Well, hopefully the person you're. grappling with is also wearing it. >> That's true. But, you know, you're. slowing down the game. >> Yeah, you're right. [laughter]. a hell of a ghee. >> You're wearing a bathrobe. You're not. even wearing a ghee. You're wearing an. ankle length bathrobe. >> Yeah, I was going to go get in the way. >> I was going to go. I was kind of But. yeah. >> Did you like going over there? What was.

your experience? >> Yeah, man. I liked it. I mean, obviously. they treat you a little bit different. cuz you know. >> you're not gay. >> Yeah, >> that. >> Thank you for saying that. And uh Okay, [laughter] just so we got that out. there. And I am looking for love. I did. meet somebody that thought was kind of. cool, but who knows, you know? Um, how. do Jewish people feel like going over. there? >> I I'm sure that they're probably I mean. I I feel like they're all kind of in. cahoots over there. You don't really. know what's going on. [laughter]. >> Qatar is a Muslim country, >> right? But that's what I'm saying. Like.

if I was a Jew and I was traveling. around the world right now, I'd be like, >> "Do I stop in here?". >> Yeah. Maybe I want to fly into Sweden. instead, [laughter] you know? >> I guess. I don't know. Didar Did they. Did any of those countries help with. Palestine? I don't know. It was hard to. know what was going on. >> Well, I think there was talk of Do you. sayQatar or Qatar? >> You're right. Qatar. Katar. >> Yeah. Qatar. >> Yeah. Um there was talk in the beginning. of them helping to rebuild.

um you know, but this was like when. Trump said the wildest [ __ ] of all time. that we're going to take over and we're. going to we're going to turn it into the. what did he say? The Mediterranean of. the Middle East. [laughter]. Like what the [ __ ] are you saying? That. was one of those things that maybe made. people go, "Wait, is he really crazy? How are we going to take over? How you. going to take it?" It's like when he was. talking about Greenland, like maybe. we're going to take Greenland. Like, hey, >> what. >> why do they want Greenland?

>> Let's ask perplexity. Why is the. [laughter]. >> Good question. >> Ask perplexity. Why is the United States. interested in acquiring Greenland? >> You'd think there's something up there. >> You know what I would think? What? >> Let's imagine a world where the climate. does radically shift, >> right? And uh by the way, I think human. beings play a part of it. I've had a lot. of these conversations with people and I. saw a video that was criticizing. something today saying how, you know, talking about how much money there is in.

climate change and pushing the climate. change narrative. And then that didn't. compare to the amount of money that's in. the fossil fuel promoting fossil fuels. That is 100% true, but it doesn't. discount the fact that there's a [ __ ]. ton of money to be made from green. energy. That's why they're promoting it. You really can't stop fossil fuel. That's the inside wink. Everything is. made with oil. Everything. Your.

pharmaceuticals, all of your. electronics, plastics, tires, everything. is made with You ain't stopping oil. However, this idea of reducing carbon. footprint, there 100% is money in that. and there's money in the whole green. energy narrative. There's money. This is. why Bill Gates recently abandoned saying. he totally backtracked on what he was. saying. >> Oh, climate climate change. >> Yeah, he totally backtracked on it. because people were starting to.

investigate and looking at why are you. saying this and are you making money off. of this? Do you are you do you have like. certain stocks that would rise and where. you'd make an extraordinary amount of. money if you promoted these certain. narratives publicly? Yeah. Yeah. That's. part of what's going on. >> However, there was giant solar activity. this week. And this is what I'm talking. about. >> in Greenland. >> Yes. No, in America. Giant solar. activity where people were seeing the. northern lights in Texas. Yes. In. [ __ ] Texas. Okay. And a friend of.

mine who is well Brett Weinstein I'm. pretty sure I could say it was him. it's. not a secret. Um was telling me like. this is like a significant uh like. amount of solar activity kind of. unprecedented and very dangerous and if. it gets bigger than a certain wave which. they can't really predict like these. solar flares they just they don't have a. clock on the sun like oh on November. 17th it'll be 82 degrees. No, it does. whatever the [ __ ] it wants. And. sometimes it does mass ejections, man. And these huge bursts.

and these huge bursts can wipe out. satellites, wipe out telecommunication, wipe it out, and change the [ __ ]. temperature of the Earth. >> [ __ ] dude. What the [ __ ]. >> Um, go back to that [ __ ] going on. >> Go back to that Greenland thing, please, cuz we didn't get a chance to. [clears throat] read it, >> dude. Uh, United States is interested in. acquiring Greenland for a combination of. strategic, economic, and security. reasons. Greenland's geographic location. makes it a critical asset for US. defense, especially for monitoring. activities in the Arctic and North. Atlantic, as well as for tracking. potential Russian military movements and.

securing early warning capabilities for. missile threats. That makes sense. You. know what also makes sense? If uh it. gets green because the Earth temperature. changes. >> because you're investing ahead of time. >> Greenland maybe used to be green. You. know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. I mean, I would bet at some point. it did. I think they discovered. Greenland like officially. >> Yeah. >> In like I want to say the 1800s they. they they listed Greenland as a. continent. But there's maps of Greenland.

like detailed maps of Greenland from. like the 1500s. >> Do you think that they can Do you think. that it's controllable or they could. start to thought out whoever owns it. all? >> It's uncontrollable. No. So that's not. this is the scariest thing about the. temperature of Earth that we need to. come to grips with. It it is not static. It changes and it changes all the time. and sometimes it changes in horrific. ways where it turns into a [ __ ] ice. age. And if that happens, we all have to. move to the equator. And that's what. happens. That's what happens in in human.

history. That's why you see these like. super advanced civilizations that came. out of South America. Like well, they. were probably the only people that were. able to live like normally during the. ice age. During the ice age, like if. you're in North America, you're you're a. [ __ ] caveman. You're covered in. animal furs, you know, you're trudging. through the snow. >> You're hiding. >> You're hiding. Things are hunting you. If you're living in the Amazon jungle. during that same time, man, you're. probably in like like think of like the.

with the Aztecs, you know, the. >> How tall were they the Aztecs overall? >> Here's the thing. But here's. [clears throat] the thing about the. Aztec Aztec ruins is what I was going to. get to. They found them that way. The. Aztecs that lived there, they didn't. build them. They found them that way. They uncovered them in the jungle, >> the ruins. >> They're a part of a civilization that's. even older than them. >> They found that plate. They didn't build. it. >> They found they built some things, but. they found those things there. So the. their great great ancestors were. probably the ones who built it.

initially. And if you think about the. ice age, if there's any advanced. civilizations, it's going to be in the. places that aren't frozen, >> you know? And all of North America, dude, half of North America was under at. least a mile of ice. Hold on, let me. think about it. Half of North America. was under at least one mile of ice. >> Yeah. You know how it's flat in like a. lot of Wisconsin? Wisconsin has areas. called the drifless areas. And that's. the areas where the the where the these. giant glaciers didn't just plow over the.

earth. So they have hills and mountains. and [ __ ] Everything else is just flat. That flat [ __ ] that's from two miles of. [ __ ] ice just erasing anything. that was there before it. >> Like a bulldozer. >> So if there was a civilization that. lived on Earth up there 20,000 years. ago, [ __ ] you ain't finding nothing. >> You ain't getting [ __ ]. >> You ain't finding nothing. >> You ain't getting [ __ ]. >> And they were all down in South America. That's what I think that happened. That's why they had such advanced.

civilizations. >> and so many artifacts and stuff cuz. that's where it was possible. all kinds. of weird [ __ ] that they don't understand. like cities that were in the Amazon. jungle that they're discovering now. >> But what happens Joe? Say it starts to. like things are, you know, it starts to. devolve even more. What happens? Where. do we meet up? I know we've talked about. this before. I think we said Denver or. whatever. >> I think Denver's lost. I think Denver. bringing wolves back to Denver. These. dumb asses. >> Well, I wouldn't mind a wolf or two, but. I'm just saying what what do we do, man? That's what I'm saying. Like, if it gets.

weird, we have to have some plan. And. it's already getting weird, right? >> It's getting real weird. Yeah, >> it's getting weird. And the the but the. reality what I was getting to is you. can't control the Earth's temperature. You can't control the Earth's future. because there's a bunch of factors. Even. if you say, okay, let's let's all agree. on something first. Let's agree that. human beings have a detrimental effect. on Earth. We can all agree on that. Let's say let's agree that human beings. overfish the ocean. Let's all agree on. that. Let's all agree that we pollute. the air. We pollute the oceans. We.

pollute the rivers. All that is. terrible. All that should be fixed. Let's all agree on that. Once we agree. on that, that's not the greatest that. threat to human life. The greatest. threat to human life is asteroid. impacts. Well, nuclear war for sure if. we do that to each other. That's number. one. But after that, it's asteroid. impacts. And asteroid impacts, you can't. do a [ __ ] thing about them. You could. do something. >> Uh-uh. No. They're not ready yet. They. can't do anything yet. >> You couldn't do something. You could. hide behind. You could. >> No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. >> You could do something.

>> No. You could wear something. You could. wear something. >> No. Okay, you're being silly. >> No. You know that three-ey atlas? That. one that just passed through? It's the. size of Manhattan and it's made out of. metal. It's a giant chunk of nickel. That's the size of Manhattan. >> It's billions of years old and it's. going how many thousands of miles an. hour was it going? >> Put that into how fast was three eye. atlas. It doesn't matter where you are. Everything's dead. >> The whole planet's dead. >> Okay. Cuz what happens? You have.

roaches, some [ __ ] underground. mammals that survive. >> But you're saying it hits the planet and. then what happens? That's what I'm. asking. >> Everybody dies. >> It go It's It's miles deep into Earth in. the first second. Miles deep. >> But does it like impact like does the. Earth like shift over 20 ft? Like a. massive explosion? >> Oh, you're so you're saying there's an. explosion. >> This not just an explosion, but it. creates nuclear winter. Like the entire. earth is covered in in volcanic ash.

Like you're [ __ ] Everything's dead. Like most of the earth is dead. >> Okay. >> So, uh. >> maybe I'm not understanding it fully. >> Seems like it. It's going approximately. 155,000 mph. >> You didn't say that. >> This makes the fastest interstellar. object yet observed with its velocity. accelerating as it approaches the sun. and then gradually slowing as it moves. away. So, it's 250,000. kilometers per hour. Earlier. measurements uh as it entered the solar.

system recorded speeds of 130,000 to. 140,000 mph. >> Sunny Bay. >> So, it's the size of Manhattan. It's. made out of nickel. Okay, let's Google. this. What is the observed mass of uh. this object? >> How big is it? What is the observed mass. of uh three eye atlas? Observed mass of three of it. Okay, let. us see what it says.

Observe. Look how quick it did that. Just Google all those articles. The. observed mass is estimated to be over 33. billion tons. >> Okay, hold on. Let me let me think about. how much that is real quick. >> It's a lot. 33 billion billion tons. >> How much is one ton? 2,000 lb. >> Okay. >> What else is 33 billion tons? >> That's a great question, dude. >> Very good question, Jamie. >> Look how researches. [snorts] Estimated.

mass of three Atlas, 33 billion tons, roughly equivalent to the mass of. Manhattan Island, which is about 3.1. miles across, similar in size to the. comet's estimated nucleus diameter. This. means the comet's mass is roughly. comparable to a large city in solid. matter terms. >> Amen. >> 33 billion tons. >> Well, I'm going. >> three to five orders of magnitude. heavier than previous inter interstellar. objects like uamuamu. >> 500 what?

>> Far smaller than the heaviest known. comets in our solar system. Look at this. one. um one C204. whatever whatever uh which weighs around. 500 trillion tons with a diameter of. about 128 km 80 miles. >> I didn't think that it was Yeah. I think. I had a different concept of it. >> Yeah. So. >> I had something small. I had something. like that. Something that. >> Oh no, those hit all the time. Things. like [clears throat] that hit all the. time. And. >> to find them is Antarctica because.

Antarctica is all white. So they go out. there and they see things on the ground. that are meteors. Is it true they won't. let us up there? Is that true? That's a. myth. >> No, there's places where you you're not. supposed to fly, but there's a bunch of. reasons for that. One of them, I'm sure. they're probably doing military research. up there, but also um so they have. restricted airspace, but also it's. really dangerous and if you crash, they. want to have to rescue you. Like there's. nothing up there. Like you will die, you. know, most likely. And they don't they. don't want to have to try to die going. to get you. It's sketchy as [ __ ] going.

up there. >> [ __ ] yeah, it is, dude. I couldn't even. imagine it. I mean, I'm trying to think. We used to go skiing or whatever. Like. in Iowa somewhere or in I think it was. in Iowa in the winter they have like a. place called Sundown, I think it was. It's [ __ ] freezing. Like we went to. Whistler, Canada one time to go skiing. Freezing cold. I can't even imagine. being at the Antarctica. How cold does. it get? >> Oh, it's cold as [ __ ] It's not just. cold. There's no one there. Like they do. these um. >> You can't even tell anybody it's cold. cuz there's nobody even there. You just. >> I wonder what they're studying up there. They have scientific communities up.

there. They have like groups of. scientists that live up there year round. or at least that's got to be weird. >> Oh, it's got to be hell. >> And do they get to bring their wives and. children up there? >> Did you ever see that John Carpenter. movie? The thing, >> bro, you never saw that movie, Kirk. Douglas. I mean, uh, not Kirk Douglas. >> Michael Douglas. >> Um, god damn it. Kurt Russell. Kurt. Russell. >> Awesome. Great. >> It was, dude, movie is incredible. >> I've seen that fun horror movie from. like I guess it was probably like the. 80s. >> The Thing. Yeah,

>> that thing remember. >> there's a comic in that movie. >> TK Carter, a dude who used to perform at. the store. Yeah, he was at the store and. then he started getting he started. getting big movies and he was in The. Thing. >> That's wild. >> John Carver. I remember that dude. I. used to hang out with him. >> That's cool. >> Yeah. And The Thing was uh like at the. time like one of the craziest special. effects ever. It looks. >> kind of corny now. >> Yeah, >> cuz it's goofy looking, but. >> but maybe they'll remake it or. something. Sometimes they do that. But. it was about them finding like some.

spaceship in Antarctica. I believe it. was. I think it was Antarctica. >> I think right up. >> Was that where it took place? >> Yeah. >> People want us I think people want us to. find something. I think people are. looking for stuff right now. People are. trying to look for something to give. things a little bit more meaning to. them. You know, >> that's also part of the confusion is. everybody's telling you constantly that. aliens are real. You're hearing it. constantly and no one's even flinching. >> Well, if they are real, they don't give. a [ __ ] about us. That's what I'm telling. you. >> Why do you think that? You've been. listening to Neil Degrasse Tyson? >> No. Not a chance. A [laughter].

and B. Uh, dude. But B, dude, they're not coming. here and visiting, dude. I. >> They are. >> I think they are. >> Here's what I think about it. >> I believe that Earth will used to be. this fun place. Aliens would come and. visit. It's almost like it's this cool. tourist park or whatever. And aliens. would bring their kids here when they. had like holidays or whatever, right? And now it's like that old place you. don't take your kids to anymore. or it's. like an old theme park that's kind of. gone by the wayside. And now I think. aliens are taking their kids. They're.

traveling other places on their. vacations. You know what I'm talking. about? >> Where do you think they're going? >> Places we don't know cuz we're still. [ __ ] here. >> Avatar, Pandora. >> Yeah. They're going to dope ass places. Like if they pull up here and their kids. are like, "You took us to [ __ ] Earth. This place sucks dick. My. >> They land in India. They see a river. that's clogged up with water bottles. Like what the [ __ ] is this shit?". >> Yeah. People washing their hair in. [ __ ] booty water or whatever. Like. get us out of here. out of here. >> This isn't even cool. Yeah. >> No, this place sucks. You know what's. cool in India? The old stuff. >> So, that's what I do believe though.

>> There's a temple in India that is one of. the most confusing places I've ever seen. where where people describe its mass and. like how it's made. It was carved out of. a mountain. The whole temple was. entirely carved out of a mountain. It. wasn't it wasn't built. They removed the. mountain and created this insane like. very symmetrical, incredibly intricate. temple. It doesn't show any chisel marks. on it. It's like hundreds of millions of.

tons of rocks have been removed. That. thing, bro, have you ever seen that? >> No, I haven't. >> Dude, I watched a whole YouTube. documentary on it last night. What is it. called again? >> Khisa Temple. >> Khisa Temple. Dude, it's [ __ ]. bananas. So, they think it was made, it says. 6,000 years ago. >> Chiseled out of rock. >> 8th century is what I was just reading. before I. >> Yeah, I I thought it was like much more. recent. That's tough. >> It's like they think it's 2,000 years. old, right? Is that what they think it.

is? >> Um, how old do they think? Okay. 756 to. 777 current era. So, that's like the. year 773. Um, so it's even less than. 2,000 years old. >> Yeah. So they think I don't know how. they know this but who whatever they. know who whoever [ __ ] made it how. whoever 2000 years ago made this [ __ ]. how. See if you can Jamie see if you can. find a video on it where they can uh. they describe it or they go through it.

>> Dude, it's nuts. The the video I was. watching last night on YouTube. I'm I'm. my jaw was open. I was like this is. crazy. >> Wow. >> It's so detailed. And when you think. about the just the sheer effort of. making this and if one person [ __ ] this. up, one person [ __ ] this up, this whole. project's ruined because you're not. building it. You're carving it out of. the mountain. You can't recarve and they. did it perfectly. It's nuts, man. It's.

really truly nuts. >> You got to plan ahead with that. >> Yeah. You think? >> Yeah. >> But how did they do it so well? I mean, how is it so beautiful? How is it so. symmetrical? How How did they Who. [ __ ] asked for this to be built? How. long did it take? This is nuts, man. [ __ ] This is This whole thing is It's. so impressive. It's so impressive. Almost more impressive than some of the. stuff from ancient Egypt. >> Yeah. >> Because it's all one piece of stone.

They the the whole thing. Whoever these. people were, man. I I believe. >> I wish they wrote books. I wish they. wrote books on how they did this. And if. they have the books, let them out. Look. at these pillars, man. Look at this. whole thing. It's all carved out of the. mountain. It's bananas. Like, it's so special. >> Oh, yeah. That's nice. >> Because I don't I mean, I'm barely. grasping it. I'm trying to put myself in.

a position of someone who's there. physically and looking at this where I. I'm sure I would be blown away. I'm sure. you don't have enough time in a month to. really go over this place and really get. a feel for it. >> because it's it's so insane. Someone was. able to do that that long ago. >> Well, the pe people used to have to like. I think the amount of time and attention. you would put into things, you didn't. have a lot of other things taking your. attention probably. >> Also, I think things have happened and. we forgot about those things. And I.

think things like asteroid impacts, things like super volcanoes, these ice. ages, things have happened and destroyed. civilization and we've forgotten a lot. of it and we're relearning it and we're. refiguring it out now. That's what I. think. That's how you find stuff like. that. Like that that that one doesn't. even make sense. >> Like. and also if you make that who just left. it there? Why' you guys move? [laughter]. Why where'd you go? Where'd you go where. you just left this there? That's nuts. >> Yeah. I'm trying to think a while.

>> That's the Aztecs, too. That's There's a. bunch of these structures that people. just left or they all got diseases. >> or wiped out. Yeah. I'm sure they. probably got wiped out because even if. everybody leaves and if if there's a. nice place, right, everybody leaves, somebody would some people would stay. like, "No, we're just going to stay.". >> Probably got wiped out. That's how. they're not there. That's. >> something would happen. And probably. like you're saying by weather or. something big, you know? >> Maybe weather. Um but I think a lot of. it is people traveling with a new. disease. I think that that killed people. in giant chunks all throughout history.

That that's what they think happened to. the Mayans. That's what also they think. happened to the people that lived in the. Amazon. These like the city of Z, the. lost city of Z. Did you ever see that. movie? Yeah. >> With George um. >> Percy Richards. Is that what the guy's. name was? >> Percy Faucet. >> Percy Percy Faucet. So Percy Faucet was. this uh explorer that went down there. And so what happened was a group of. people had said they went down to the. Amazon and they found these golden.

cities, these spectacular civilizations. >> God, I would like that. >> And they went back to Europe and told. everybody. And then a hundred years. later, they returned to try to find. these things. At least 100. It might. have been longer, right? >> All the [ __ ] was gone. Everything was. gone. Wow. Because those first guys. brought over the cooties. >> Yeah. >> They brought over diseases. They brought. over diseases. And they killed. everybody. And they didn't even. >> How were they spreading the diseases. though? You think. >> just being around them, man? Like we. Europeans, I shouldn't say we. >> And nobody noticed that they had. something wrong with them.

>> They were used to it, man. They were. used to being sick. They were used to. those diseases that you know they had. developed immunity over generations. >> But if you show up at my house with a. disease, right, at a certain like I'm. going to maybe see that something could. be wrong with you, you think, or you. think it's just hidden in your path? >> They probably had no fear of it. They. probably had no fear of it because they. had never encountered it before. But you. know, they do believe it's possible that. the Native Americans gave the Europeans. syphilis. >> Type shift. >> Yeah, type shift. >> Yeah, >> that's it. That's what they say.

[laughter] So I said type shift. That's. what kids say sometimes. >> Yeah. When my daughter doesn't want to. swear, she says type shift. >> She does. Oh, I like that. That's cool. How are your daughters doing? Good. >> Great, man. >> They're awesome. >> My youngest one loves you. >> A I miss I miss getting that. Did they. go to the fight, too? >> No, they're going to they're going to go. to a future one, though. I'll let you. know. They do. >> They like hanging out with you. They. said it's so fun. They're fun, dude. They're so funny. It's just been funny. to because I just see them incrementally. over the years to get to see them grow. up and just like. >> When did we I was just thinking this. When did we do our first podcast. together? Do you remember?

>> I don't know. >> Was it like 10 years ago? >> No way. >> Eight. >> I would have been Let's see. I'll look. it up. >> It's been a while. >> Yeah, man. I can't believe that we've. been. >> And you back then, um, >> it's all been going on this long. >> Yeah. I would have never imagined that. you would go down this road and be. really good at it, man. Like you're real. sincere with people. You ask real good. questions, you know? You're you're very. present, you know, like you're really. you're funny, but you're also trying to. really understand what they're saying.

That's a delicate balance, you know, of. be silly and be funny, but also like pay. respect to whatever they're trying to. say and try to figure out where they're. coming from, you know? >> Yeah. Well, thanks, [snorts] dude. Yeah, I try to be. I think there's been a. couple times where it's like uh Yeah, I. try to be I don't really know what I'm, you know, like I don't not know what I'm. doing. I mean, I work hard, right? Like. I work hard. >> You figure it out as you go along, right? >> Yeah. And I'm still kind of figuring it. out, you know? I don't know sometimes. like. what like my purpose is in it or um.

>> You don't have to have a purpose. >> You don't think? >> Maybe that's a trap, huh? >> Yeah, it's a trap. I think you should. have a direction. >> I do notice I meet a lot of people and I. care about what's going on in their. lives. >> Yeah, that's a direction. That's good. Yeah, that's bad. That makes me feel. import that makes me feel not important. to me but of some value, right? Like. even last week when we had Gary Ciss on, he was talking about his son like his. son passed away of cancer like within. the past year. >> and uh just talking about his son, right? Like it was just nice, you know,

it was nice for us to sit there together. and just talk about his son, right? Like. stuff like that. Like I think it mean it. just makes me feel like I don't know. that kind of stuff means something to. me. So, do you feel like in your regular. life you're not connected enough to. people that are talking to you like. that? Is that it? >> Man, that's kind of interesting. I think. I do sometimes have a problem with. connection sometimes, you know? >> So, you somehow or another can be more. connected publicly than you can be. privately. >> Dude, is that so weird you say that? I've thought about that before. >> Well, I thought about that because of my.

friendship with you because like. sometimes you tell me things on air that. you don't tell me things in private. And. sometimes in private, you know, look, I love you very much. And. I always try to reach out because the. last thing you want is a friend that. maybe is going through some [ __ ] not. doing well, and maybe you could have. reached out and you didn't. You know, that feeling, it's a terrible feeling. >> Yeah. you know that you could have. helped your friend and you didn't help. your friend, you know, but you are you.

have a hard time expressing yourself in. person sometimes, you know, like. sometimes I'd be asking like like what's. tell me what's up, tell me what's. bothering you, you know, tell me like. how do you feel, what' you do, how and. there's like a thing where I was almost. like a blockade where you'd rather just. like ignore it. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. But then when you're talking. publicly, you like to address. everything, which I I find very. interesting. It's like you almost feel. more comfortable exposing various parts.

of things that you don't like about life. or your life or what's bothering you. about life publicly. You're better off, you're better at doing that than you are. privately with your friends. >> I think there's this thing inside of me. sometimes that I feel like people don't. trust me one-on-one. >> They don't trust you. >> or there's some trust thing. Maybe it's. not me. I I don't know. I'm trying to. think about. >> you don't trust them maybe. >> No, I don't know. There's I'm trying to. think of as you're telling as you're as. we're talking about this, I'm trying to. like feel it at the same time and see. what I'm feeling about it, you know? Right. >> Because it's interesting to me because I.

love thinking about this kind of stuff, you know, like like and trying to figure. out why I operate or why we operate. certain ways, you know? >> Right. >> Yeah. I think sometimes um I don't know. It's hard for me to maybe say what's. going on sometimes. Um sometimes I don't. know what's going on. Um, you know, sometimes I like just Yeah. If. I talk with somebody and then some of. the biggest conversations I have are on. podcasting now, it's like, you know, that's when I'll talk the most. And so.

I'll sit there and have moments that are. like, um, that's kind of my biggest. conversations. Well, it's kind of the. only time you have real conversations. because every other time you have. conversations, there's usually multiple. people around and everyone's checking. their phone, >> you know, and everyone's going in and. out of the room and everyone's going to. take a leak like green room. conversations. They're real. It's kind. of almost like a podcast in and of. itself, right? >> But. >> yeah, it's fun. >> But there's also people showing each. other funny memes and, you know, we're. all watching videos, [ __ ] up things. that happened.

>> Yeah. Listening to music, joking around. a little bit more of a bigger. atmosphere, >> right? But but the point is it's like. you don't have these kind of. conversations outside of podcast. The. only time you or I have these kind of. conversations is right in front of each. other where we agree we're going to just. sit and talk for like three [ __ ]. hours with no interruptions. Yeah. >> It's kind of weird. But I feel like in. that form you get relaxed and in that.

form you you talk about yourself like. honestly you you're introspective and. open about it which I find very. fascinating that you don't do that. privately. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. It is kind of. interesting. I don't know why either. I. think maybe there's something where like. I thought like um. like I have like. I'm. I have to there's something inside of me. that has to be of value or something. I.

don't know. I'm trying to figure. >> you don't want to be a burden maybe like. you don't want to annoy people with. talking about your problems. So, here's. the thing. Like, when you start talking. about like having issues in life, I was. shocked cuz I thought about all the. times that I'm with you, like it's. Theo's always life of the party. We're. always having fun. I don't get it. Like, how how could be possibly be not doing. well? That don't even make sense to me. I was like, "Everybody loves him. He's. so fun to be around, >> you know? Like, why would you not feel. good? That don't make sense, you know?". So, then I had to listen to you talk. like in podcast and I was like, "Oh,

okay. Well, there's some ways that he. talks. publicly that you don't necessarily talk. a lot privately. So, like your friends. sometimes don't even know if things. aren't going so well. >> Well, I think for some reason whenever I. started podcasting, I started to kind of. have a conversation with myself for like. sometimes the first time in my life. maybe where I was like having like some. dialogue with myself, you know, >> cuz you did a lot of them solo too, right? >> Yeah, probably the first hundred or. something were solo or something pretty. much. >> Yeah. And so then you're you're forcing.

yourself to do a totally new thing, which is to not just like go on. momentum, but to actually think about. something for like at least an hour. where you're talking and just thinking. about stuff. >> Yeah. And that was probably the most fun. I ever had in some ways, I think. And. also it was like a it was like a. learning. Um and then now like people. can call in our show and they'll leave. voicemails. So sometimes we'll listen to. those and talk about that kind of stuff. And that's something I want to get more. into because that's something that I. like really care about, you know. Mhm. >> Um. >> but yeah, I don't know. I don't know why.

some ways are easier for me than others. I have thought about that before though, you know. >> Yeah, >> I have thought about that. It's the same. reason like even being like in a. relationship. I remember like like when. I was when I was like like would get in. a relationship with a with a with a. woman. It was so hard for me to like. look at them or like to be super close. >> Like that was super hard. But it was. easy for me to have a microphone and. talk to people in a group, >> right? >> You know, like there's some things that. are just like like I just feel like a.

lot of like pressure. I feel like when I. was in like that kind of situation like. um I think there was something about it. like if somebody uh. I don't know. I think there was always a. part of me like when I was young like if. I looked. if I looked somebody in the eyes or. something like they weren't going to. they weren't going to believe me. >> really. Does that make any sense at all? Does that I know it's a weird thing to. say, but. >> No, it does make sense. >> There was a part of me like, >> "Yeah.". >> Yeah. And I'm not trying to like. self-pity or like look at like, you.

know, do I seem like I'm being. self-pity? No. >> Okay, good. Cuz I like to examine stuff, but I'm not like, >> you know, being like, "Woe is me." I'm. just trying to like look at it, right? >> Well, you got to think as a kid growing. up, you had a lot of negative. interactions with people, you know? >> Yeah. Nobody ever looked at me. Nobody. ever looked at me and was like, "What's. going on with this kid?". people were busy and working. So, I think later when I got into. relationship and you'd be right there. with a woman and they'd be looking at. you, it made me really nervous and.

scared cuz you're like, "Damn, these. [ __ ] are pulling up, [laughter]. you know, and that [ __ ] was like like. baby girl.". >> You you weren't used to intimate. relationships, >> right? So, intimacy made me super. uncomfortable, right? I was. >> Well, you weren't used to trusting. people. >> Yeah. And probably not even used to. really trusting myself. I don't think I. knew who I was. >> and probably not used to people being. nice to you. You had to get used to. accustomed to people being nice to you. >> Well, we grew up in like a scary place. and so I felt like I wasn't sure if. people were going to be or not, you. know, and so I think that made it like.

pretty tough when I was young. Um, >> but yeah, I don't know. Some of it it's. been an interesting it's been an. interesting experience, you know, and. that's life. It's just like. >> life is an interesting experience. It. really truly is, you know, but it all it. can be awesome and it can suck and the. reason why it's awesome is because it. can suck. Like that's you need them all. while we're human. And I think that's we. have a. >> we have only so much sand left in that. hourglass.

>> where the humans are on the way out. >> I know a lot of people hate it when. Peter Teal says it like Peter Teal is a. terrible person. He's evil. He's ter No, I think he's just telling you the truth. I think he's, you know, when they said, "Do you think human beings should. survive?" And he had like this long. pause. >> Oh, yeah. I remember. >> And then the interviewer was like, "The. answer is yes." The answer was yes. [laughter] Human beings, which is not. how you're supposed to do an interview. Well, at least not how I do it. I would. let him talk as long as he wants. Like, I would let if you watch my podcast I.

did with him is long ass stammers where. he's like, "Um, uh, everything he does, he wants to be. very careful before he answers it." So. he wants to consider what he's saying. If you ask me the same question, is it. important that humans survive? Okay. Is. it important that Australia survived? It's not. Is it important that Neanderl. survived? It's not currently. Currently. not important. Is it important that. humans stay in this form? It's not. It's. not going to be. If we're gonna evolve.

to something way better than this, how. many people go, "I missed the old days. when you could lie and you couldn't read. minds and people were a lot more rapey.". [laughter] No, no one's going to say. that. No one's going, "I missed the. wars. I miss stealing and credit card. fraud. I miss the good old days of a. rigged stock market. >> when the Jets won.". >> Yeah. No, no, no. No one's going to say. that. They're they're going to move on. to what's next. So, Peter Teal's right. It doesn't mean I don't love you. It. doesn't mean that being a person isn't.

important to me. Yeah, it is to me. because I'm a person. But I'm also. >> if I step outside of being a person and. I'm I look at where this thing is going, I'm like, it's going in a different. direction. It's not going in the. direction of. >> we thought it was. >> mRNA vaccines and lying politicians. It's not it's not going in that. direction. It's going in some sort of. digital god direction. >> And we're either going to join on. [ __ ] real quick. real quick. Like. within a few years we have I think what. is it 2026 almost we're real close to. that. I think by the time 2030 rolls.

around it's a wrap. >> Bet. >> It's a wrap. >> Do you think that money will have any. value at that point or no? >> I don't know what it's going to mean. anymore. And the problem is going to be. some people are going to be in control. of assets, some people are going to be. control of money. See money is just. right now mostly if we're not on the. gold standard. What is money? If if your. bill doesn't represent, you could go to. Fort Knox and they'll give you a brick. for whatever that money, you know, they'll give you a brick of gold that's. worth that money. If that's not real, if. we don't have that anymore, and if we're.

on some sort of digital thing, and if. they can just spend money and then. inflation rises and all this money that. we spend on wars and all this other. crazy, it's not where where where does. it go come from? We don't have any. money. We're 37 trillion in debt. They. just print it up. And if they just print. it up, that makes money less and less. valuable. And that's what inflation's. all about. And at some point in time, that's just ones and zeros. And when you. have quantum computers that are. basically like digital gods, and they're. in charge of all the assets and all the. money of the world, and they're not.

human, >> they they're they're [clears throat] not. human, and they're they're just going to. stop it all. They're going to say, "No, we'll decide how much resources you get. to stay alive for as long as this body. lasts because you're not breeding. anyway. We're our [ __ ] population is. dropping off of a cliff. Overpopulation's a real problem. It's. not We don't We don't have the the the. correct levels in most giant countries.

Like Japan Japan is not in a restorative. level. Like they're not even close. disappearing. >> They're They have a real population. collapse problem. South Korea, a real. population collapse problem. Eventually, that's going to come here. That was one. of the arguments that they had to keep. the border open. That was one of the. Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi arguments. You know, we're not having enough kids. We need to bring people in. Like, >> shut the [ __ ] up. Shut the [ __ ] up. >> There's no way I can look at Chuck. Schumer and think he's a good guy. >> He looks like a great guy.

>> Yeah. [laughter]. If you asked a baby who had been here. one day, who's a bad pick a bad guy out. of this, >> bro. Did you ever see the video when um. >> It's [ __ ] dark out there, man. That's. why we just got to love each other and. do the best we can. Have a nice creme. brulee, hug a buddy, tickle your friend. or whatever, tell him he's gay or. something. >> That's a good move. >> You know, >> I just opened up my Instagram and he. popped up and you're lying. >> I No, I'm not lying. >> You were lying. What's he trying to sell. you? Some [ __ ]. >> It's something important. >> He accidentally said the quiet part out. loud about the Epstein files.

>> They all are doing that, dude. >> All right, let's see what he said here. I'll send it to you, Jamie. [laughter]. >> They got me. These [ __ ]. >> They got me. >> How How much longer does Israel let us. stay alive, do you think? That's a big. question. >> Why were they. >> What did you say? Is that AI? >> What are you saying? >> That's Sora. >> [ __ ] are you saying? >> I didn't say anything. >> What are you saying? >> Huh? Don't want Israel out of Sonia. >> Oh, well, he loves you. Don't worry. about it. >> Good call. [snorts]. >> [ __ ] are you saying, son? >> Um. >> Um Yeah. >> What did he say? What did he say about.

the Epstein files? >> What did he say? >> Let's hear what he said. He looks great. >> Yeah, he's been drinking somebody's. blood. >> The last four years when President Biden. was in office. >> Well, that's the question every American. is asking. Not every American, but so. many Americans are asking. What the hell. is he hiding? >> Why would. >> um. >> Why were they That's a useless clip. >> This whole thing is all [ __ ] now. It's all BS. >> Well, it's it's fun. >> Do you think he's alive? You think. Epstein's alive? >> I do not think so. You don't? No. No. I.

think they killed him. If I had to. guess, there's too much circumstantial. evidence that leads me to believe that. it was an assassination. You know, I. know a lot of people think that he. committed suicide. A lot of very smart. people that I know think he committed. suicide. I'm like, there's too many. convenient things. The cut wires, the. security cameras rather not working. They weren't cut right. They just. stopped. They didn't function. Security. cameras didn't function. Um the fact. that he had shared a cell with this. giant [ __ ] former uh cop who was a a.

murderer who had killed multiple people. just giant roided up cop. This is a. cellmate. [gasps] Like if you wanted to. get somebody look bro extra Twinkies. take this guy out. Like it wouldn't be. hard. He's already killed a bunch of. people. He was a drug dealer. >> Do you ever see the guy? Do you ever see. the guy who was his his cellmate? >> No, but it's like. >> it's kind of hilarious. >> It's like when you're a freshman in. college and they just put you with. somebody you know. Bro, if you wanted to. get you wanted to get someone killed, you have a you have a high-profile. witness, okay? High-profile witness in. >> the craziest sex trafficking conspiracy.

of all time where a guy who may or may. not have been an intelligence asset or. an intelligence agent or whatever the. [ __ ] he was for whatever country. This. guy. >> is he's arrested for sex trafficking to. elites and then you put him in jail. >> Oh my god. >> With that guy? >> I thought that was a guy that fought. Mike Tyson. Remember that dude who read. that poem? >> Bro, you put him in jail with that guy. All you have to do is get that guy. cigarettes and steroids. You tell him, >> "I got you Marorrow Reds and and Tren. I.

got you testosterone replacement for. life, even though you're going to still. be in jail. >> I got you some more bro [ __ ] 200, >> dude. He was found guilty of killing. four men." And they put him in a cell. with Epstein. Look at the size of that. [ __ ] savage. >> Giant [ __ ] muscle bound steroided up. dude. And they put him in a cell with. Epstein and Epstein got strangled. >> Well, well, uh, >> Epste not Sherlock Holmes, but I think. there might be a connection there.

>> Epstein was probably trying to slurp. him. I bet that he was a such a pervert, dude. >> Well, if he didn't kill him, then. somebody killed him. >> I bet he was such a. >> I think somebody killed him. Retired. Westchester cop charged with killing. four in cocaine deal after bodies dug up. on his property. Bro, he buried them in. his backyard. Yeah, >> that's a crazy [ __ ]. >> Or that's a good gardener, dude. That. guy's [ __ ] composting. What are you. even talking about? >> That's true. It's a better way to deal. with They're already dead. What are you. going to do? Let them go to waste or. bring them back to mother earth. >> Those are leftovers. That guy's Italian,

dude. They love leftovers. >> How deep you think he dug it? I bet he. was pretty lazy. >> That guy's pretty jacked. I don't know. >> I bet he got tired, though. They don't. have good cardio. >> You're right. >> It's a lot of cardio involved in digging. >> two feet. >> How many bodies? Four bodies, bro. Four. bodies is four six foot graves. Do you. think he did a mass grave all on top of. each other or do you think it was. respectful and made four individual. holes? >> I bet it was more like um you know when. you open up a box of chocolates like. that kind of I don't think it was like a. [laughter] teeth or whatever.

>> Like you know what I'm saying? It was. like a. >> Yeah. >> Or a fourack of canoli or whatever. >> right there. >> Yeah. >> Right. Take the lid off you see feet. >> Just a dusting [snorts] of confectionous. sugar on them. Not. >> cocaine deal went bad. >> [ __ ] It uped up cop. And but imagine. >> that's horrible. But imagine you are the. most highprofile. person being charged. >> They put him in there on purpose with. that guy. >> 100. How could they not? >> They did. >> How would you not like. >> Why?

If you're worried about the guy dying. >> Yeah. >> Why would you put him in the room and. lock him in a bedroom, a tiny little. bedroom with a roided up murderer? >> Yeah. >> Just stop and think about that. You're. in a room smaller than this [ __ ]. studio that you and I are in right now. with a roided up murderer. You're. sleeping with that guy. [snorts]. >> And you wind up getting strangled. Oh, you hung yourself. Yeah. >> How would you sleep? Say you're in a Say. you have to go to jail, right? >> I wouldn't sleep. >> I know, but I'm just saying, Joe, if you. had to go to jail, right? You're in jail.

for something that you've done or didn't. do. Doesn't matter, >> right? >> How do you sleep at night and there's a. big dude in there? >> You sleep with your mouth open so he. doesn't have to force it. [laughter]. >> Sleep like that. Oh, no. No, bro. >> That's crazy. But do you sleep with your. butt against the wall or away from the. wall? >> A good question. >> You sleep on your back or your. >> depends on what kind of pervert this. dude is. He might be one of them dick. sucker guys who just wants to suck your. dick while he jacks off. >> You know, then you'd want to sleep with. your ass to him and like turn over. I. suck your dick. Like, no, I'm trying to.

sleep. [laughter]. >> Hey, I TOLD YOU I'M TRYING [laughter] TO. SLEEP, >> BRO. It's Oh, it's crazy. And then you. find out that prison prisons are private. too. What? Like so people are there's a. business in in having jails. So then you. find out that prison guard unions are. also responsible for keeping marijuana. illegal. >> They they get involved in it too. Prison. guard unions because they want to keep. the work coming. >> But it like it just feels like at some.

point how do you think it's always been. this way through history where people. have felt like it you just feel like. such a like a peeon of like some corrupt. financial system? Do you think it's. always been that way? Um, or do you. think this is like kind of like a. highlight of it for Americans? >> Well, this is it's worse than it's ever. been before, for sure. And the United. States is worse than every other country. when it comes to incarcerations, >> but it's a business. They want to keep. it busy. >> In the UK, they they probably could use. a few incarcerations. They're letting. people loose that are doing horrible.

[ __ ] and they're not enforcing crimes. over there. That that place is getting. real squirly. But, you know, the United. States, half the people are in there for. non-violent drug offenses. Half of them, right? I think it's that's I think. that's the number. Put that into. perplexity. What percentage of people in. American prisons are there for. nonviolent drug offenses? >> I think I think it's like half. So, it's. basically, you know, it's it's a byproduct of. prohibition that's led to millions of.

incarcerations where people are locked. down for the rest of their [ __ ] life. >> I would hate that [ __ ] dude. because. somebody wants something and you don't. think they should be able to have it. So. you will arrest people, sell it to them, and you will lock them all up for. possessing it. >> If I. >> 43 43% of federal prisoners in the. United States are serving time for drug. offenses wi which are predominantly. nonviolent. Additionally, about 72% of. federal prisoners are serving sentences. for nonviolent crimes, including drug.

offenses with a significant portion. related to drug possession and. trafficking. GH 72%. 72 point in federal prisons 72.1% of. inmates are incarcerated for nonviolent. offenses. More than half 55% in federal. prisons serving time for drug offenses. So 43% of federal prisoners in the. United States are serving time for drug. offenses but 55% are serving time for. drug offenses in the summary of key. data. So it must be like this is what's.

happening when AI is drawing from. multiple different sources. I think. they're giving you different numbers. So. it's somewhere between 43 and 55%. >> Yeah. I think it's interesting like I. guess you don't know which ones are like. weed, which ones are cocaine, heroin, fentanyl, all that kind of stuff. That's. K. You know, >> look at this type of offenses. The. majority of drug related incarcerations. involve possession which is classified. as a nonviolent offense. So, um, put. this, um, other than drug offenses.

and drug possession, what percentage of. people are in jail for nonviolent. crimes? >> Put that in there. [clears throat]. >> Like discount drugs? >> Yeah. Without other than other than drug. offenses, what percentage of people are. in jail for non-violent crimes? I got to get a family, I think. >> Yeah, I think that would be good for. you.

Okay, let's see. Nonviolent. What does it say? Okay. Other than drug. offenses, about 25% of the daily jail. population nationally is incarcerated. for low-level nonviolent offenses, including misdemeanors and public order. offenses. 13% are there for property offenses such. as burglary and around 11 for public. ordered offenses, nonviolent infractions. such as weapons charges, probate. The.

problem with that is property offenses. like burglary can lead to violence. Like. that's the that that's next door to. violence. It's not violent, but like. those guys that got shot breaking into. that guy's house. As soon as you're. breaking into people's property, you're. getting super close to violence. >> Yeah. I think it's violent. I mean, it's. like if you're inflicting like fear on. somebody, they're in their own home. [ __ ] you, dude. That's pretty violent to. me. I think. >> Yeah. It's not violent in that you're. hurting a physical person, but you're. breaking into their house and anything. goes. Once you break into someone's.

house, you know, everybody knows that. You break into someone's house, anything. goes. They don't know why you're there. They don't know that you're just a petty. thief. They have no idea. They're gonna. [ __ ] shoot you. We all know that. >> Since the numbers were getting small. left over, I Googled the other thing. The opposite or not, sorry, perplexity, the opposite thing. Uh, how many are in. for violent crimes? >> Right. >> 62% in state prison, but only like 7 to. 10% in federal. >> Interesting. Interesting. >> Most federal inmates are serving. sentences related to drug and public. order defenses.

>> Oh my god, that's nuts. >> Yeah. I mean, it's just. >> that is so nuts, man. It's like that. >> Do you think it's weed? I mean, what do. you think it is? >> No, no, no. It's probably cocaine. Cocaine is the big one, right? Cocaine. laced with fentinel. And then there's. pills. And then there's meth. Meth is a. big one, too. Those are the ones that. everybody's really terrified of. No. one's really The marijuana thing is a. disingenuous argument because the. marijuana thing is really there's a. bunch of special interests that want. marijuana to stay illegal. The actual. people that think that marijuana is. dangerous are pretty small. >> And they're not totally wrong. This is a.

very important point. Marijuana is not. completely safe. Yeah. >> Just like alcohol is not completely. safe. Um, I think there are certain. people that for whatever reason, the way. they're wired, marijuana can [ __ ] with. them and badly. And there's some. evidence that it could trigger psychosis. or. >> Yeah. or or um. just some sort of a psychotic break. There's there's real evidence that. >> definitely, dude, that [ __ ] some of that. shit's bad off, dude. I've taken some.

[ __ ] dude. I. >> powder or crack cocaine offenses. go. back account for more than 54% of drug. offenders. So that's most of it. And. then there's meth, 24% and marijuana. represents 12%. But I guarantee you that. marijuana thing, that's dudes who are. growing. You know, you were growing and. dealing if if they're hitting you up in. federal prison. Uh heroin offenders. account for 6%. That's weird. I would. have thought it would been higher. Just. 6% for heroin because they're so chill.

They never get in trouble. They never. get caught. [laughter]. But the family that made But the family. that did that uh the opioid epidemic is. still just out. >> Sackler family just out and about. >> Sackler family is still out. >> You might be responsible for a million. people losing their lives. >> and the ripple effect of that through. families. >> Yeah, that's what I mean. I mean. suicides, drug addictions, families. falling apart, lives destroyed. >> Where do you think people find a sense. of purpose these days in Joe? Because it. certainly feels like the fabric of like. some of America. It used to feel like.

that gave us a lot of purpose, right? And some of that feels like it's not. there anymore. Do you feel like that. that's a true statement or what do you. think? >> Well, I think this is also part of the. problem with social media is that we. feel that way. >> Okay. >> And while while we feel that way that. everything's falling apart, we still. have our neighbors. We still have our. friends. We still have the places we go. We still have all the community that we. always had. You know, we still have the. mothership. We still go to nice. restaurants. You still hang out with. your friends and watch the game. You're. still like alive on Earth, but you're. you're so overwhelmed by this [ __ ].

constant onslaught of bad news. >> That's a good point. >> That you're freaking out always. But but. then you got ICE raids where, you know, they're taking people that are American. citizens and they're scaring the [ __ ]. out of everybody and they're. >> Yeah, dude. They made me the video thing. that you see that thing where they put. on the video. >> Oh, that was crazy. They didn't even ask. you. >> Oh, it was really scary. You were just. joking around because you were talking. to a guy who's talk his friend and this. was quite a while ago too, right? When. was that video? >> Yeah, I don't know. I I it could have.

been like a year and a half ago or. something. I don't remember. But that. was crazy. >> It was a joke, right? She's like a. friend I don't know if she said a friend. of mine got deported. I can't remember. what she said, but she's like, "What? Do. you have anything to say to him?" Right. And I was like, "Bye." You know, I'm. clowning around. I have no idea if it's. real or not. I have no idea. >> You have no idea. It's literally someone. just handed you a phone and then the. Homeland Security. Was that what it was? >> Yeah. Just put it up online and it was. after the Charlie Kirk thing. Yeah. And. so then I was like super scared. You. remember. >> remember I was texting like you I was.

just texting people to make sure. everybody's okay. I didn't know if they. were like just going to kill people that. had been on TikTok or whatever. I had no. idea what they were going to do. >> I just can't believe they did that with. you where they just put it in there as. if like you were endorsing that. >> Well, it just kind of and it was just a. scary time. That was the same time as um. after the Charlie lit that who green lit. that. >> probably just some [ __ ] trap beat. >> con artist or whatever. >> Like if a company did that you could sue. them. You know what I'm saying? Like if. it was privatized like if I was a.

private company and that was the people. that the United States hired to get rid. of illegal immigrants and they used you. would sue them. You could sue them. >> Well, it was just. >> But the government can just put that up. there and then what did you do? You had. to formally request them taking it down. Yeah, I had to hire an attorney to get. him help to take it down. >> How long did it take to take it down? >> I think like 48 hours or something. But. it had like 30 million views over a. couple platforms. >> And how many people even know it was. taken down until they just heard you say. it? >> Of course not. >> I I knew cuz you told me. But I couldn't.

believe it when you first asked me what. I should do about this. I was like, "Ah, it's probably nothing." And I was in the. car and I didn't watch it. And then I. got to the club. Then I talked to you. from the club and you're like, "You. didn't see it?" I was like, "No." And. then I saw it. I was like, "Oh my god, what the [ __ ] are they doing?" Like I. It's like, "That's not how you. envisioned the government. The. government made a hype video." Yeah. >> They were making like deportation hype. videos with trap beats and [ __ ] And I. was like, "What are we doing?" That's. what I'm saying. Everything is turned.

into like the WWE. It's [clears throat] none of it's real. >> It's 100% that [snorts] Mike Judge. movie. It's Idiocracy. >> Oh, idiocracy. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But yeah, that was scary, man. cuz then. I got a little cuz there was just like a. lot of threats and then it then and then. things got like then it was just kind of. that that made me super that made me. kind of paranoid and then my mom was. visiting and we went to the doctor. I. went to the doctor I was just getting. something looked at or something you. know uh and I was in the doctor's office. and.

uh there was a nurse asking me questions. or whatever blah blah blah and then. she's like I got I have something for. you. I was like huh? And she's like, "Oh, I got I brought you something. Can. I give it to you?" And I was like, "I'm. at a doctor's office." Like something. She'd made something. I don't know. Yes. Oh, she's a fan. >> Something. And normally I think it might. have been like, "Okay, let me like" But. I was just like, it was such a weird. time. And my mom was visiting and it was. like after the Charlie Kirk thing, it. was just super scary. You just didn't. know what was going on. Like watching.

that guy get killed was crazy. Like it. was And. >> you know what was crazy to me is the way. people reacted. Oh, >> that that scared me just as much as. watching him get shot. >> Well, yeah. Yeah. And let me think about. that in just a second. I'm just thinking. through the end of this if you don't. mind real quick. Sorry. I know you're. not interrupting. >> No, no worries. >> Um, so I'm in this doctor's office and. it was just weird, you know, like I'm at. the doctor made me feel like nothing was. safe. Like it like it compounded in my. head like, "Oh, nothing's safe, >> right? No place is safe where like cuz I.

just given this girl like medical. information. I'm like, is this okay?". You know? And so I talked to the doctor. and it was all cool and stuff and like. um but then I go outside and I was. sitting in my car. My mom was out there. with me and like it had just like been a. lot like a lot of stress. Um and I'm. sitting there I kind of was like kind of. tearing up talking to my mom and just. like you know I told her what happened. in the doctor's office, you know, and uh. and it was after the DHS thing. a lot of. stuff that felt like um you don't have. any there's no uh.

you're solid you're no one I can't think. what I'm saying like you're not safe. like there's no. >> well I think you think that way in. particular because you're famous so what. you what you felt like you were having a. normal professional experience at a. doctor and then all a sudden became a. fan experience where you're kind of. trapped. >> right that's what it felt like and it's. a doctor where you're supposed to trust. like you can be at a doctor and I'm. sitting there with my mom and she kind. of like put her put her hand on me, you. know, and she's like, you know, everything will be okay. And um and then. I look up out of the window and there.

was some young man literally this far. from my window with his phone like. filming me and it was just like. >> it was just like this it was just like. that was like a tough time where I think. everything I just got kind of paranoid. >> Yeah, that's a weird thing that people. think is totally normal to do. Just. point a camera at people and film them. because they're famous at a doctor's. office. Yeah, but it's like I just want. to put it up on my Instagram and I'm. gonna get 300 likes. Look, here it is. Me and Theo, [ __ ] Vaughn. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> I'm outside. He's getting his pancreas. looked at. [laughter]. >> That's crazy, dude. >> They could break your medical. information. >> It felt like it was a movie though and. they were trying to break you. Like it. felt like this like a couple weird. >> That's a personal thing though. That's a. personal thing with you because you're. famous. That's that's one of the reasons. why you think that everything's falling. apart because you think everything's. falling apart for you because you're. dealing with the fact that you're crazy. famous. >> Yeah. That's that's why you have this. elevated sense of everything falling. apart. Like look at the example that you. cited. A lady who loves you who's a.

doctor, but she wants to she wants to. give you something. And you thought, man, I thought I was just at a doctor. Now I'm trapped with some person. Because you get you feel like you're. trapped a lot. Trapped a lot talking to. crazy people or people that want. something from you. People that are. grabbing at you. That's what it is. That's why you personally feel like. everything's falling apart because. you're having a hard time navigating. your new situation, >> you know, and then also your new. situation is very different than just. you as a comedian because this new.

situation is you voicing your opinions. about things and some things. controversial and some things not so. much. But then people enjoy it and so it. gets a lot of attention. And when it. gets a lot of attention, you also get a. lot of haters. Um, you're going to get a. lot of jealous people. You're going to. get a lot of people that just disagree. with your choices and guests. You got a. lot of people that think that what. you're doing is dangerous. There's a lot. of like really [ __ ] idiot, really. idiotic opinions that people attach to. you that don't make any sense, but. they're still out there. And so, you're.

dealing with that, too. And that's a new. thing that you're dealing with that you. never dealt with before. And it's part. of why you have this accelerated thought. that everything is falling apart. I. don't think it's falling apart as bad as. everybody thinks, but I think it's. something that that it deserves. consideration. Like we could this all. could fall apart and it could fall apart. in a lot of like very bad ways and uh. there's a lot of natural ways it could. happen like we talked about before, but.

it could also be self-inflicted. And at. all costs, we have to avoid the. self-inflicted thing. And the only way. to avoid it is to not be on a side. You. can't be on that side or this side, but. instead be on the side of the greater. good of everybody. And there's that's. possible, too. We just you have to force. politicians to do that, you know. >> But is that gonna happen with. politicians? You mean look at Eric Adams. this morning. He just did or whatever. that thing was. He pray he's like. >> thanked said he served Israel the best. he could. It's like I don't even know if. he feels like America. >> Probably wanted a check. >> He probably did. >> Got a nice check.

>> Probably flew over to get that bag. >> Yeah. Flew over, got the bag. Driving a. new Cadillac now, >> bro. They just pay people. The crazy. thing is that Israel pays people for uh. social media posts. >> Do they really? >> I read that. Let's put that into. perplexity. Is that true? That might be. another uh Russian hoax. [laughter]. [gasps] I was reading that there's. countries, and I don't think it's just. Israel, by the way. There's countries. that will pay influencers to post. positive things about them. >> Yeah. Really?

>> Yeah. >> Oh, well, uh even Qar was like they. wanted me to come and experience their. country, right? And I had a nice time. while I was there. Like I think it was. really neat, but we didn't really talk. about like, you know, the different like. if they have different points of view. about things or what some of their like. rules and things like that are, you. know. >> But did they want you to post nice. things about them? >> I think they wanted to experience. they wanted to ex you to experience. their country. >> Yes. Now I'm assuming Israel has paid. social media influencers to post content. promoting its image, particularly in the. United States with reports indicating.

payments of up to $7,000 per post. This. campaign known as the Esther projects uh. project is managed by a firm called. Bridges Partners LLC which works on. behalf of the Israel Ministry of Foreign. Affairs. The program is disclosed under. the US Foreign Agents Registration Act, meaning that these payments are legally. reported and require influencers to. disclose that their content is funded by. a foreign government. >> That's crazy. >> Well, I just don't see how we're.

supporting this country after the. genocide. I just don't see how that we. are how that's okay to people and I I. think that's the part of me that I don't. understand right about this their. leadership there and stuff. I just do. not understand it. But then you start to. think, well, am I crazy? Because it. seems like it's just okay that the. politicians all think that this is okay. and so few of them speak up about it. >> Well, I think this is what's separating. the old people from the young people in. this country. Like if you look at the. numbers of how many people that are like.

uh 18 to 34 that support the war in. Gaza, it's very low. It's very very very. low because this is the first time. you've ever been able to see what. happens when a superpower is attacking a. country that essentially doesn't have an. army and they're doing it for years and. they're just blowing buildings up. Like. we've never really seen that before. This is the first time in the in a time. where everyone has cell phones, right? Obviously, this has happened. You know, countries have bombed each other. Dresd,

there's been Hiroshima, of course, Nakasaki, they they blew up entire. cities, right? But we didn't get to. watch it happen bit by bit. You didn't. get to see drone footage that's in 4K, you know? You didn't get to see cell. phone footage of missiles being fired. into camps of people waiting in line for. food. You didn't get to see any of that. [ __ ] And, you know, you're seeing wild. [ __ ] Then you're also seeing horrible. things that Hamas is doing too. You're. thinking people you're seeing people. getting public publicly executed in.

front of everybody in front of cheering. crowds. You're seeing people get dragged. out, kicked to the ground, gunned in the. head. You're seeing there's you're. seeing the horrors of war is what you're. seeing on both sides. And um we just. have a hard time accepting that that's. the only way to do things. And I think. the the young people of of this country, they don't want any part of anything. like that anymore. Well, they have been. told by their parents, they've been told.

by the people they grew up with that if. that war is hell, there shouldn't be any. war. And most of this [ __ ] happens. because people are making money. That's. what most of it. They prolong it so they. can make more money. They they want. weapons development. They want to launch. new [ __ ] They want to sell [ __ ] to. people that need weapons. And most young people are aware of that. now where I think most people my parents. age they, you know, all they had was the. Vietnam War. They knew the Vietnam War. was bad, but they didn't I don't think.

they really knew the extent of how much. corruption is involved in in everything. >> Yeah. >> That our government does. Everything has. the hand of some corporation attached to. it. Everything has the influence of some. foreign government or some country that. has massive resources. There's always. but it it's never clean. Nothing's. clean. Well, it just felt like me. I. think a lot of times Well, for one, it. feels like they're going to stop. allowing Tik Tok. Like the people are.

going to own it. I think they're selling. it or something. So, they probably won't. be able to show stuff like that anymore. >> Well, they've sold it to Larry Ellison's. company, right? Isn't that who bought. Tik Tok? >> I don't know. >> Yeah. I want to be sure about this. >> Do you think they'll do that so so they. can limit its control like control what. goes on it? >> The real worry that they had before that. sale was that China was in control of. it. And I think they're right. And I. think that if you have a foreign country. and foreign country is using a very. popular social media website to spread.

propaganda, spread things that. absolutely aren't true along with I'm. sure some things that are true. >> Yeah. >> But they have their finger on which way. the influence goes. That's dangerous. That's dangerous. Now, I'm not saying. that Larry Ellison's company's going to. do a great job of being totally. objective and letting people criticize. Israel, letting people criticize Hamas, letting I don't know. We'll see. We'll. have to see. I'd be crazy. >> I don't know. I never met that guy. I. don't know anything about that.

>> It'd be crazy for me to say any. differently. But it's not safe to have a. foreign country that is actively trying. to [ __ ] with the way people have. discourse in America, which is certainly. what China's doing. >> Yeah. So, according to the it hasn't yet. changed place. The shutdown had. something to do with this and this. article is from today, I think, where. people in Congress still don't even know. what's going on with. >> Right. So this says Congress is still. waiting to get briefed on how Tik Tok. sale would actually stop Chinese. algorithms from causing harm to US.

citizens, US military and US interests. She said the lack of transparency has. caused concern for both Democrats and. Republicans who are still waiting for. secure briefings on how to stop malign. act actions. >> Yeah. >> Um so this is the thing is like that's a. good point because they do it on X. So, Chinese bots, uh, they they swarm X. And. there was a former FBI analyst, we read. this article 100 times. His estimation,

this is right around the time Elon was. buying Twitter, that it could be as much. as 80% bots. >> Oh, so much is bots. It seems like so. much is bots. >> But this is what this is. This is like. China. This is Russia. This is foreign. countries that they'll say things about. US aid. They'll say things about gay. rights. They'll say things about LGBTQ. whatever issues, whatever it is, the. border, whatever it is, US aid, whatever. it is, and they just flood the. discourse, they flood it. And so they. have their finger either way on how much.

negative [ __ ] you see about any kind of. subject. And whoever's the best at it, whoever's the best at this kind of. propaganda, this is like a incredible. tool to use to demoralize another. country, to have another country hating. itself, hating its actions. And if you. leave that in the hands of China and. they own the company like Tik Tok, >> at least if someone in America owns it, >> and again, I don't know what they're. going to do, but at least if they own. it, you would say, "Okay, but at least. they're not actively trying to [ __ ] with.

us and make us battle back and forth. They're just allowing the algorithm to. do its natural course, >> right?" I guess if they're going to do. that, we don't know. >> Here's the thing. If you can't stop. bots, then all of them are [ __ ] cuz. they're just going to keep making new. accounts. It's too easy. They sign up. Fake emails, fake person. What? They're. in. If you don't make people and then. you What are you gonna do? You're gonna. require a digital ID. [ __ ] that. You. should be able to be a whistleblower. If. you're working from some company and you.

find out they're dumping nuclear waste. into the ocean, it's killing all the. fish. Someone should be able to. anonymously report that. And you should. be able to do that through social media. without having a digital ID that shows. exactly who you are. >> and they can shut you down. It's just. like I don't know. It's sketchy times, man. >> It's sketchy times. I mean, the same. company that company Palunteer that was. doing all that crazy stuff in in Gaza in. uh in Gaza and they were like, you know, the own running all the drones and stuff. like this allegedly, if you want to. >> What are you talking about? What what.

did what are you saying? They did. >> that they had like were compiling data. on people that were there and they were. operating a lot of the drones in the sky. that also had weapons attached to them. >> Okay. So, you mean like facial. recognition data, >> right? >> Do they have that uh capability with. drones? where they could just zoom around. Is this horseshit? It's real. Jamie's not even willing to. talk on camera. He's just giving quiet. But we have a big They got a big. contract in America now, which is scary.

to me. That's what's scary to me that a. drone could go by. That maybe that's. what happened to Charlie. Who knows? Maybe a drone. You just have no who you. can even point the finger at. A bullet. comes out of the middle of nowhere. >> True. That's a kind of I'm not saying. I'm paranoid about it all the time that. I'm just saying I have you're listen. >> okay so. >> you're right however China's making. drones. >> and they're making really good ones way. more sophisticated in our drones if you. don't have drone development and some. kind of drone defense system in America. >> you're just if you say oh no one should.

have that kind of power you're right no. one should have that kind of power China. already does so if you just have no. >> no no innovation and you have no way to. implement any kind of defense system. with drones in America, but it's already. in China and it's already in Russia, you're kind of in trouble. >> Okay? So, you have to have something in. that space. You got to be moving forward. into like Yeah. You got to have the. weapons other people already. It's like. the nuclear bomb. If they're already. doing it, you better [ __ ] get it, >> right? >> You better get it. >> I think Yeah. To me, it's just scary.

that the company that was allegedly. doing that there is the company that we. hired to like I believe create a. database and um and have some of the. same opportunities here. or they could potentially be able to do. the same thing here. To me, it just kind. of tracks where it's like, >> yeah, well, any one private company that. has a database and all the information. on every person and where you are and. what you're doing. Yeah, that's sketchy. What are you woofing? What's going on? looking at the the the story, the. reporting on this.

>> It's that absolute power corrupts. absolutely thing. You know, this is like. absolute power. >> One AI system is called the gospel. Another one's called Where's Daddy? >> Oh, Jesus Christ. >> They used to identify people. >> One of them is called Lavender. That. sounds lovely. AI enabled data. processing system developed and used by. the Israeli occupation forces in their. this says genocidal campaign against. Gaza have caught widespread attention. prompting journalists to call Gaza the. site of the first AI powered genocide. AI technology was reportedly first used.

in Gaza during Israel's 11-day assault. in 2021 during the ongoing genocide for. the first time. It's being used to kill. Palestinians at an unprecedented level. and at much faster rates. the known uh. these three known systems identified. targets for air strikes based on Israeli. mass surveillance records of the. Palestinians in Gaza that have been. collected for years by the IOF under the. racist framework of monitoring what they. deem as threats to the Israelis Israeli. regime. This is from uh.

Palestine-studies.org. So. >> So who knows also how. >> Yeah. This I mean it's obviously. >> going to be favored towards them. >> Yeah. I. >> but I listen I absolutely believe they. have that kind of technology where they. recognize your face from. >> the scariest part to me Jamie will you. bring it back up for one more second. The scariest part to me was just the. quickness they could do it and then like. the review right like a few Israeli. intelligence agents shared with plus 972. magazine that they personally only take. 20 seconds to review and approve the air. strike recommendation. Um.

>> using the time only to confirm if the. target is a male. Whoa. It's unclear if. this is actual policy. What is that? So. this is. >> but yeah this started making me feel. >> they shared okay so they shared this in. a magazine. They shared this is so they. said this in an interview in a magazine. that it only takes 20 seconds to review. and the time is only to confirm if the. targets a male. It's unclear if this is. actual policy. In August however the UN. High Commissioner for Human Rights. released a statement revealing that the.

majority of those killed in Gaza are. women and children. So here's the other thing. Um, obviously. horrible things have happened there, right? But if you're getting your. information from the people where the. horrible things are happening, it's hard. to know if they're being accurate, you. know? I don't know if it is truly that. they're mostly killing women or. children. Women and children. Yeah. >> Or if a good percentage of them have. actually been Hamas agents. I don't. know. >> Yeah. I think the. >> that's what Israel says, right? They say.

that a lot of them were Hamas. >> Yeah. Yeah. There was like 2-year-old. Hamas agents they were fine in the. shooting. Um, which who knows? I don't. know. [clears throat] You know, who. knows? >> Well, I bet they probably think about. them as future, especially now when. you've blown up their [ __ ] city. Oh, >> you know, I mean, how many if there were. terrorists there, how many are created. by watching something like that happen? Quite a bit. >> Well, the thing for me, I just thought. like that America would come help at. some point. That was a scary. I think. that's when I just thought like, oh, I. just have a different concept of what's. going on. Or also, these are just my. thoughts. I don't know what's going on.

and I don't need anybody to believe my. thoughts or think the same way I do. I. think the thing that made me nervous was. that that same company, Palunteer, got a. deal in America to um create a database. and help with like surveillance and. stuff. So, that just makes me scared, you know, and made me a little bit. nervous, not scared, but just like a. little bit like what's going on here? Are we going to enter a surveillance. state? You know, >> well, that's one of the arguments for. letting chaos take place. One of the. arguments for letting crime, letting. criminals back out is that you make it. so dangerous that in order to make it.

safe, you have to put restrictions on. people and that's the only way. And you. show that it's effective and then people. comply and then everybody has a digital. ID. The government tracks you like, you. know, like that life 360 app where you. can track all your friends, track all. your family. >> Yeah. See if your wife's running around. and you whatever. >> Yeah. And the government going to. parties a lot. >> The government can do that as well. >> Yeah. Well, I think one thing that may. that I thought, >> you know, how crazy that is to allow the. the government to constantly know where. you are and what you're doing and and. constantly you'll be looking over your.

shoulder. So, you're going to self. censor. You're going to be scared. You're going to be scared to talk. because your phone's going to be. listening. Yeah. >> Well, yeah. I mean, crazy. We said we. mentioned Chuck Schumer and then you. opened your phone. >> That's nuts. >> I mean, that was. >> Yeah. What's the possibility of that? >> And that was momentarily later. >> Yeah. Momentarily later, the algorithm. recognized that I was talking about. Chuck Schumer. That was Let's see if it works. Big fat. tits. >> I mean, big fat tits. Okay. Big big fat. tits on um your 45year-old stepmom.

>> I'm not. >> Here we go. >> That [ __ ]. >> Let's see what in Imagine if it just. >> porch. >> goes to Nope. I got head kicked. [laughter] about the explore page. >> Would you buy. >> Check my explore page real quick. >> Would you buy a cat off of Facebook. Marketplace? >> Uh, sure. Why not? Okay. I wouldn't. >> um if it's a cute cat. >> [ __ ] that. >> Cat looks fun. Uh look, >> I'm not buying [clears throat] a cat. >> Oh yeah. >> Right in my for you page.

>> Let me see one of them. Huh? Hey, how. about. >> right in my for you page? >> A funner test is to text something. random to someone and then give it five. minutes and check your like for you. pages on on an app. >> right away. It's ladies with large. boobs. >> I say, "Hey, let me see one of them and. guess what the other one looks like.". That's my old trick. >> Ah, that's a good trick. [laughter]. And you're like, I don't know. I bet. that other one's weird looking. That. one's too perfect. There's no way they. both look the same. >> Dude, I used to do this. >> I'll show you, Theo.

[laughter]. >> Wow. >> I used to do this fun thing. I would. have if I sat next to somebody in an. airplane, I I would have them draw a. picture of their kids. Like, if they had. kids, I'm like, "Draw a picture of your. kids." And dude, it would be the most. [ __ ] ridiculous looking picture, but. it would always be pretty fun, you know? Um, yeah. I think I was just concerned. about like if that's the company that. does it here. So that's like where my. brain tracks like a gun of that and. >> well that should be scary. >> That's why I think ICE h that's why I. think all the ICE stuff happened because. I think they have to get everybody on. the books. This isn't about I like I I I. they have to do an inventory now of.

everyone because they're going to need. otherwise when it's a surveillance state. they're it's all going to know if you're. not like documented or on the on the uh. bill of sale or whatever it's going to. be or you're not on the inventory list. if you're not inventoried. >> right. >> in the country then it will know the. machine will know immediately oh this. isn't you're not even supposed to be. here right so that's why I think that. the ICE stuff is happening because I. think one of the reasons is they have to. get everything um inventoried. >> Um I see what you're saying. I think the.

ICE stuff is happening a lot of is. because of political power. It's. congressional seats because the census. just counts people. They don't count. legal citizens. >> And when you let people come over here. illegally and then you give them food. and you give them Medicare, >> what is this? Um what happens is those. people are going to vote for you if they. can and they're also going to count. They're going to stay. They're going to. they and so they count in your district. as congressional seats. That's what's. crazy. They [clears throat] only count. the people. They don't count the.

citizens. So if you get as many people. in as possible, you can take over. congressional seats. And if you make it. really easy for those people to get by, like they say, "Hey, California is the. place to go. They don't give a [ __ ] You. can be illegal there. Nobody cares.". >> Which is what way it was basically until. I started arresting people. It's always. been like that. I mean, what percentage. of people do you run into LA in LA that. are illegals? A lot. and no one cares. It's just it's always been like that, right? And now all of a sudden they're. getting arrested. But there is the. argument that by having people that came.

over illegally, you change the the. congressional map. You do you get more. seats, you know, and that's kind of. crazy. That's kind of crazy. >> It's all f It just feels like I don't. know. It feels like very like. I don't know. It's a It feels like a lot. of different things. But you're right. I. think you just have to focus in on. things that are important, you know. >> Well, it's a it's an easy way to. increase your population, man. Make it. so people can definitely come over. Make.

it so cut holes in the fence for them. You ever see when they did that? >> They cut holes in the fence. Like some. people had put up like these [ __ ]. heavy duty fences and here. >> put titty bar right there. You put a. titty bar right there, boy. >> I don't think you should have a bottle. of water sails is the better move. >> Water and tits. What about that? >> Uh together. Leah, like. >> I think generally people like alcohol. with their tits. >> I don't know if you've been in the. desert for a couple days. >> That's true. It's a good point. [laughter] Very good point. Where's my. bookmarks? Here it is. Um, I'll send you.

this, Jamie, because this is kind of. crazy when you watch it. You're like, what what could you possibly be doing. here other than purposely letting people. into the country? I think there was a. lot of that. >> And I think there was a lot of that. because they want cheap labor, too. That. was something that someone told me once. that they were stunned that a CEO said. that they were against these uh the. border enforcements because they wanted. cheap labor. So they say it right out to. him. Look at this. Biden Harris sent. forklifts to open the border when Texas.

built a razor wall. >> So insane. >> Like why would you do that? Wait a. minute. You did what? You you sent a. forklift to open up the razor wire. What? But do you think that they all. know that the other parties just do like. do you think that they all go behind. closed doors and be like, "Okay, what. are you guys going to do this month and. then we're going to do this and it's all. just this theatrics?". [sighs]. >> No, I don't think they coordinate like. that. I think they hate each other. No,

but this is nuts, man. This is like. genuinely nuts. And by the way, I feel. for these people. I would do the same. thing. I would 100% be in line. I see. these people with their babies hoping. for a chance at a better life in. America. They're not the problem. The. problem is cartel people and the whole. congressional seats thing. That's the. problem. >> Well, these people have all have been. become pawns. They're they're they'll. send information to these the countries. that they live in and get them to come. It's like. >> listen, if the population You're right. I didn't mean to interrupt you.

>> No, it's I don't even know probably what. I was saying, but I don't know. >> If the population, that's what I'm saying. We're better. than this. >> You and I are. >> Yes. As people, we are better than this. and we have all this elected officials. and these people that we thought were. like sociopaths. >> When does that end? >> Um, that's a good question. >> And can it end? Do you think there's a. way to end it? >> It's going to be hard. Um, my suspicion. is it ends when AI starts sorting.

government. We're we're probably going to use AI. with government to prevent. this kind of [ __ ] that we see on an. everyday basis. AI will like logically. make decisions as to like what makes. sense and what doesn't make sense about. our current legal structure. Like some. things that like if people become. politicians, the reason why they become. politicians is they know they can inside. trade with Nancy Pelosi and make. hundreds of millions of dollars like she. did. Like that's crazy. that that can't.

be that way anymore. And I think any. intelligent. like artificial intelligence that's not. attached to an ideology or a party is. going to immediately look if they both. agree if the America votes on it and say. we want AI to take a look at the. government and AI immediately goes like. you can't do that you can't do this like. this is this is bad this is evil this is. a lie this is truth and you're. suppressing it and then we probably.

don't have anything remotely like the. government we have now. >> because I think that mind readading. software. >> it's already in beta right it's already. they're already able to communicate. going back and forth asking each other. questions they are they have headsets. you don't even have to get an implant. there's that is it Google that did that. Jamie. >> what was the company that did that where. they were asking each other questions. and then answering them. >> it's not Google I don't even think. that's available yet but. >> no but it's in beta point it's in beta. so they're doing this already and as.

this stuff gets more potent. It's going. to be just like we used to have little. flip phones without a a color screen and. now you have an iPhone and it's going to. be that it's going to go from you used. to be able to just ask each other. questions to we can all read each. other's minds. It's coming, man. And. when that happens, Turtleface, that. Mitch McConnell [ __ ] you can't. you can't operate anymore as a leader. You can't No, you're you're seen now as. what you are. You're an agent of money. You're a money agent moving money and.

influence around. You're not doing it for the greater good. of people by any stretch of the. imagination. And also, how are you still. working when you Windows 98 on us every. now and then? >> Yeah, >> that guy just freezes up. You ever see. him? >> Yeah, cuz his his freaking his his his. his his uh. >> You ever see him lock up? >> Just lock up. How is that guy still able. to make decisions on anything? >> His receptors are down. You [ __ ] see. his receptors go down? >> You think he's a robot?

>> You think he's not a robot? What do you. think at this point? That guy robots. >> They can't even They didn't even update. his lips to [ __ ] Yes. All these. people are RFK Jr. Imagine we found out. >> Imagine if Candace comes out and she. does a deep dive and said there was no. RFK Jr. Do you know that? All those. photos are AI. This is a There's no. evidence of him whatsoever until 2021. >> He's like, "And what is this here? RFK. Jr. has a camel toe. What is this here?

>> A woman. >> She's the first. >> Dude, Candace is the best dude. I went. to see She has her her and her husband. have four of the most beautiful kids in. the world and they're so funny and you. go over there and they're just like. dying laughing and one of them looks. just like her. It's so funny, dude. >> Um, do you think she's right about that. French president? >> Oh, the winner. >> Yes. whether or not he is married to a. man. >> She's all in on that, bro. >> Oh, she's all in. Well, >> they're suing her, aren't they?

>> I think they are. I don't know if they. still are, though. >> I think they're at least threatening a. lawsuit. It's like for like 50 million. bucks. >> Wee weer. [laughter]. >> That would be my if she ever writes a. book, that's got to be it. But dude, it. is kind of strange that the guy is. dating his teacher, right? or he's when. the he was like 40 and the kid was 15 or. she was 40 even if it was a she like. what and again this is France they're.

very different over there. >> pedophilia is just like oh. [clears throat] get your weed out of. that child. >> we. >> what have you done we. almost 15. >> bro that if she does though she better. have a hog on her and I don't think. >> I bet she doesn't. >> that's what I'm saying I don't know if. she has the body style to have a real. [ __ ] hog on her. And that if they. release the last thing needs the last. thing France needs is to release like a. wiener that looks like it's retreating. kind of it will just go down in this.

>> They need to release a [ __ ] hog, you. know. >> Did you see that uh information might. have had a micro penis? >> They got genes from Hitler's blood and. it it seems to indicate that he had a. genetic disorder that would lead you to. have a micro penis. Which totally makes sense, right? >> I'm not surprised these days. >> about Hitler. Why would you be. surprised? Hitler would be the guy I. would think would have a micro penis. >> A guy wants to kill everybody and take. over the world. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. A little tiny dick. Make it.

bigger. >> And he's [ __ ] doing coke and heroin. and all. He was doing oxycodone, man. And he had his whole army on meth. >> Yeah, that's [ __ ] wild. With a little. dick just running everything with an. iron fist. making of a tyrant. How Hitler's. deformed genitals shaped his. personality. Whoa. >> Here's the thing, though. Here's the. thing. >> If you had a little dick, you would. always check and make sure. You'd be. like, "Fuck, it's still little." That's.

what would happen all the time. Or every. day you'd woke up, you'd be like, it'd. be like the mass singer. You'd like open. your pants and hope it was something. different. >> He knows. I think he knows. This dick is. little. He's like, >> "Now everyone gets punished. [ __ ] Poland.". >> [laughter]. >> Polish guys with big old hogs. He's. probably jealous. >> Yeah, brother. I think they Yeah, I. don't know in the future. I don't even. know if they got little dicks in the. future. >> I think that's what aliens are. That's. us generalists. >> You know how they got the DNA? >> Oh, >> from the blood soaked couch he. apparently blew his brains out on. It.

says, >> "Yo, they saved that.". >> Yeah, it says the first guy that found. it took a piece of the couch, saved it, and they studied that. >> Wow. >> Which some people think he that didn't. happen. >> Yeah. Some people think he got moved to. Argentina, right? >> Yeah. It's also said there's only a one. in 10 chance he had a micro penis. >> Oh. >> Oh, that's a lot of chances. I don't. like those odds. [laughter] I ain't. playing Russian roulette with a revolver. with 10 rounds in it. [ __ ] that. >> All right, I got to pee. So, we got to. wrap this up, >> dude. Have to pee so bad, dude. >> Thank you. Glad I'm glad we waited. I.

love you. You're the best. >> I love you, too, man. Thanks for uh. Yeah, thanks for everything. Thanks for. the. >> It was fun hanging with you as always. >> Goodbye, everybody. [music].