Joe Rogan Experience #2410 - Jeff Dye

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY. NIGHT. All day. >> I'm trying to get to that. >> Yeah, that's the key. That's the. >> But they tricking me, Joe. They're. They're baiting me in with the. algorithm. >> These [ __ ] they get me, too. They get me in the morning. I'm not. >> I was just talking about with Jamie that. like. >> Are we rolling? >> Yeah. what you're talking about with him. is like. >> I'm so good at like not caring what.

people think sort of and then I find no. I really care a lot like I'm like in a. constant tug of war of that. >> cuz I used to have Google alerts on. >> Oh no for your name. >> Yeah. >> yeah and then I had to get rid of that. >> Oh how dare then I was like I'm going to. check the YouTube comments. >> So that's that was a ring that I had to. close. I'm slowly closing the rings. The. ring I'm stuck in right now is checking. what like my comedy peers are up to, you. know, that kind of stuff. The one that. they make videos get a cigar.

>> The videos they make of like uh oh, so. and so is is, you know, having a. breakdown or Mark Maron said this or. those kind of like those rings, you. know. >> Oh, no. >> But I need to close that. I want to get. I want to have no none of it. I want to. I don't want to check any comments or. any anything. I'm uh much better at this. stuff than I ever have been in the past. of avoiding most things that are. annoying. But every now and then one. will sneak in and then I Why did I let. that sneak in? >> Yeah, I let that bother me. >> Yeah, I texted I was going, "Hey, check.

this out." He goes, "Don't send me [ __ ]. like this.". >> The Ronda Rousey one didn't really. bother me. >> Okay, good. >> I mean, I know what that is. >> You know, like she's uh she's a [ __ ]. pitbull, man. That's uh the type of. human. >> Thanks, brother. >> You're welcome. Do you mind if I tell. you my opinion of Ronda Rousey and you. tell me if I'm right or not? >> You're good. >> Cuz you know what you're talking about. and I am not a UFC. I like I like UFC. but I don't you know you know these. things. >> So I've always said like Ronda Rousey. was a badass, >> right?

>> And was awesome at fighting when there. was like 30 girls doing it in like. professionally at her level. >> Mhm. >> Right. That's why I said I might be. wrong. But then there was probably all. these girls who could really fight all. over the world, like in Japan and in. other countries and even maybe even in. America that just weren't in UFC. They're like, I could probably beat this. chick. And now that there's so many. women competing on this level, like. Ronda Rousey probably isn't in her prime. as badass as like the field. Well, it's very difficult to when.

someone's a pioneer, she's a legitimate. pioneer. It's very difficult to compare. them to the people that have had a. chance to study the pioneers and then. advance the sport. >> So what she was is here fella. >> She's a legend. I mean I got nothing but. love and respect for that lady. What she. did was so impressive. She was the first. legitimate female superstar. She made.

the UFC female division possible. If it. wasn't for her, Dana was very open about. never having female UFC fighters. It. took someone that was that dynamic, that. was that special to open his eyes and. go, you know what, I think this lady's a. star. And to be the type, like when she. said like, I wasn't an expert. >> Any everyone's entitled to their. opinion, you know, but you got to. understand why she thinks like that cuz. she's a [ __ ] she has a champion. mentality. You never fought, you ain't. [ __ ] You know, it's like it's real.

simple. >> The football did that. You didn't play. You're like, "Yeah, but I studied the. sport.". >> Doesn't matter. You ain't [ __ ] I get. it. It's totally fine. Um, you can't. judge her like compare her to like Jeang. Way Lee because like Jeang Way Lee who. was the 115 pound champion, she had a. chance to watch all these other people. learn what they're doing right, what. they're doing wrong, what's effective, what's not effective. What what what. Rhonda had is world class judo. World. class bronze medalist in the Olympics.

One of the best arm bars period in the. sport in the history of the sport. Her. [ __ ] arm bar the technique was. flawless. There's a fight with her and. Cat Zingano. Cat Zingano launches at her. just [ __ ] Cat Zingano was an animal. Charges at her full Rhonda catches her. in an armbar in like 13 seconds. I don't. remember the exact time. It was nuts, but it was perfect. perfect technique, you know, you couldn't [ __ ] with that. But then she fought Holly Holm. And when. she fought Holly Holm, she was dealing.

with an elite boxer, an elite kickboxer, and a very physically strong woman who. had an awesome game plan and who had a. chance to study Ronda. And maybe more. importantly, came from a great camp. And. that camp, Jackson Winklej camp, one of. the best camps in the world. Jon Jones. came out of that camp. Holly Donald. Cerrone originally came out of that. camp. A lot of great fighters came out. of there. So, they were really good at. game planning. So, they knew how Rhonda. likes to clinch. They knew how Ronda.

likes to set up her takedowns. And they. knew, you know, what to avoid. And then. on top of that, Holly is just an elite. striker. So, every time Ronda tried to. close the distance, the striking that. she was very effective with against guys. like uh BC Kohaa, these these fighters. that were a lower tier, it's not going. to be as effective with someone like. Holly. and Holly started catching her on. the feet and had her rocked and then. landed that famous high kick and put her. out. >> Well, I thought they were like the same. age and same era, but like Holly's after.

>> she was able to learn from uh. >> I wouldn't say they're they are the same. era, but Holly, you know, she had wins. and losses. She lost to Valentina. Chevchenko. She lost to some other. fighters and but it was stylistically it. was a great matchup for her because. she's a elite striker. She's really good. at counter striking striking. She's. really good at movement and when Ronda. has to close that distance, every fight.

starts in the feet and when you're with. a very physically strong woman who's got. good takedown defense and is good at. like catching you as you're charging in, that was that was the problem in that. fight. Also, the problem in that fight, I think for Rhonda, is when you start. becoming really famous, then the hyenas show up and they start. offering you this and offering you that. and distracting you with this and. distracting you with that. And now. you're going to meetings and you're. talking to agents and you're setting up.

movies and you're doing this and you're. doing that. And all those things take. away from the most important thing, which is your fighting. even if they. don't take away from the amount of. training you do, they take away from. your focus. They just they rob you of. the bandwidth. You know, I always tell. comics this when it comes to like. dealing with um haters and things online. that you shouldn't read. You only have. like think of your mind as having a. number of units of attention. Think you.

have a like 100 units of focus. anything. that eats into those units, anything. that bothers you, that annoys you, that's useless, that doesn't help you, that's stealing from your 100, you know, so now you only have 80 units or 70. units of focus because 30 of it is. concentrated on [ __ ] It will it'll. rob you of what makes you great. And so. there was two factors. There was the. skill of Holly, the fact that she had. all this opportunity to study Rhonda and. with a great team and devise a game.

plan. And then there's also the stealing. of focus. You know, Rhonda, I was one of. the biggest champions of her as a. fighter, as a as a like a legitimate. pioneer and a star. There was first it. was Gina Corano and Chris Cyborg to a. certain extent, but Cyborg had an asterk. because everybody knew she was roided up. and then it was Ronda, but Ronda. eclipsed all of them. She was bigger. than all of them. I was a huge supporter. and still am. But when you watch a fight.

and you're watching you get your ass. kicked and the other person is talking. about how great the other person is. doing and how bad you're doing, >> that doesn't sit well with a lot of. people, especially like someone who's. got that kind of champion mentality, that [ __ ] pitbull mentality like, "I. thought you were with me. [ __ ] you.". >> Yeah. And then it was after the fight, I. was very public about saying I don't. think she should fight for a long time. They were talking about doing an. immediate rematch and I was like that's.

crazy. Like they were talking about. doing a rematch in four months or. something like that. I was like when you. get head kicked into the shadow realm, you're supposed to take a long time off. When Manny Pacquiao got knocked out by. Juan Manuel Marquez, it was a [ __ ]. picture perfect right hand who knock. that knocked Manny Pacquiao out. His. coach Freddy Roach said, "You can't. fight for a year. I don't want you doing. anything for a year, for one year.". Because you got to heal up from. something like that. It's it's bad when. you get knocked unconscious.

It's not just that you'll be a touch. gunshy, which is possible, but also that. you're more vulnerable to getting hit. and then you could ruin your chin. forever. Like if you get knocked out, there's certain fighters that used to. have iron chins. Like Chuck Ladell is. one of the greatest examples of that. He. had an iron chin. You could hit that. dude with a [ __ ] sledgehammer and he. would just keep swinging at you. And. then eventually it got to the point. where he would get clipped and he would. just go out. And it wasn't him. It was. his his bro his brain was broken. It was.

like there was too many times, too many. shots, too many too many knockouts, too. many impacts. You got to preserve that. You got to be very careful with that. You got to take a long time off. And. then there was the Amanda Nunez fight. So the Amanda Nunez fight, I was also. very vocal that everybody was putting. all of the attention in the promotion on. Ronda making this huge comeback. And if. you watch the promos for that fight, I. thought they were crazy disrespectful. because the promos and obviously look,

Ronda was a [ __ ] huge star, a much. bigger star than Amanda Nunees. And that. loss was a shocking upset to a lot of. people that didn't understand martial. arts and didn't think that Holly had a. chance. Didn't think anybody had a. chance. She was going to beat everybody. forever. But all the promo was Ronda. coming back. All of it was like, she's. coming back to take what's hers. It was. Ronda in a mansion looking out. It was. like the worst promo set. >> Like Rhonda in a mansion looking out the. window saying, "I'm gonna come get my. title." I don't know who made that. I.

don't know what it was, but I remember. being backstage the day of the fight. >> And there was all these agents mulling. around, all these Hollywood [ __ ] And. this guy was like, I forget his exact. words. They were talking. He didn't know. who Rhonda was fighting. And he said, "Who I don't know what her name is, but. whoever it is, it's her funeral." That's. what he said. And I was like, "Oh my. god." Like, "These are the people.". Meanwhile, Amanda Nunees was the. scariest person at 135. And that what I.

that's what I had said before she fought. Holly Holm. I mean, like Dana and I. talked about. I said, I think Amanda's. the scariest title challenger because. she can flatline chicks with one punch. She's very different than all the other. ones. She w up flatlining Chris Cyborg. It was a crazy fight. She beats the [ __ ]. out of everybody. She hits so hard, like. way harder than most women. And I was. like, that's a dangerous [ __ ]. opponent. And they're making it seem. like this is all about the Ronda. comeback when Amanda was the champion. So Holly had beaten Ronda, Misha Tate.

had beaten Holly, and then Amanda had. beaten Misha Tate. So Amanda was the. [ __ ] champion, but all the promotion. was all about Rhonda. And then they were. trying to do like pro wrestling like. >> I don't know what they were doing. >> She'll come back. I think, you know, they were just selling the fight. They. were selling it. And the best way to. sell it is, I guess, that way. >> more famous, >> but it's disrespectful to the champion, especially a [ __ ] dangerous champion. And if she if the champion wins, which I.

thought she was going to win, it sets up. >> like it's not good to set her up. Like, you should set her up like how [ __ ]. dangerous she is. Now you got a bigger. star. Obviously, she wound up being a. bigger star. And Amanda's the greatest. of all time. like widely considered to. be the greatest mixed martial arts. female fighter in history cuz she [ __ ]. everybody up. She's just so dangerous. Um so and then that fight happens and. then that lady takes Ronda out in the. first round. Just beats the the piss out. of her. Just stops her standing. Just it.

was brutal. You know, I never had a bad. thing to say about Rhonda. I still. don't. I understand her mentality. I. mean, she's a championminded. person. Like she's like, "You're [ __ ]. with me or against me. It's me against. the world. You know, she doesn't have a. chip on her shoulder. She's got a. forest. She's got a whole forest on her. shoulder. You know what I mean? Like, but that's why she was so good. And. we're lucky she's a woman. If that lady. was a man, she'd be Genghask Khan, okay? She'd [ __ ] take over the world. >> She's an animal. >> It's scary.

>> So, that's why she has that opinion. That's just how she thinks about things. >> I was mad at her just as an everyday man. because my nieces love any woman that's. famous for any reason, you know. And my. nieces also aren't experts about UFC. They're little girls. And they just. think it's cool that a woman's a badass. You know, they like that kind of stuff. And so then when she lost to like, you. know, be on Tik Tok. I mean, actually, people made Tik Toks of it. It's not. like Ronda Rousey was on Tik Tok, but. like she was like on Ellen being like, I.

just wanted to quit and I saw my man and. I just realized I want to have babies. And I was like, this is not really the. message, you know, if if if you lose to. just go be a pro wrestler or have. babies. Like that's not like I don't. know. I felt like it was a strange way. for a champion to talk. >> Yeah, but that's her legitimately as a. human being. That's what she wanted. And. there's there comes a time. >> that's good. No, that would be a fine. way to frame it. >> Well, she was being honest. She wanted a. baby. She didn't want to do it anymore. And that there comes a time where look, every fighter can only redline for so.

long. And the reality of fighting is. you're redlining. >> What does that mean? >> You know what a red line when the. engine, you know, when your tachometer. reaches like 8,000 RPM, it's like, >> right? You can only do that for so long. or your engine blows. But to to be in. peak physical condition, to be able to. fight in a championship fight, you. essentially have to redline your body. through camp. You have to get your body. to a place where it's at a rare. You. can't maintain fight shape. It's not.

possible. you get to a certain part, you. peak and then the last week you kind of. drop off so that you can recover and so. that Saturday night when Saturday night. rolls up and the lights go on in Madison. Square Garden, you are as [ __ ] ready. as a human being can get. But you can't. maintain that and you can't do that. forever. There's only and they think. that there's a theory amongst uh mixed. martial arts commentators and experts. and what have you that there's about. nine years. 9 years is all it's possible.

to compete at a at a peak level and then. you get a drop off. Some people have. more longevity than others. It varies. Some people it's a much shorter reign. and you got to kind of look at who they. were when they were at the top. You can. you can only look at them when they're. at that peak. Like guys like Anderson. Silva, he gets kind of dismissed because. later in his life their performances. weren't the same. They weren't elite. performances, but I say that's just. human. You got to look at him when he.

was the champion. He was one of the most. elite guys that's ever competed in the. sport, period. He's one of the greatest. of all time. But you can only you got to. look at when he was in his prime. >> Sure. >> You know, and there's only a certain. amount of time you can do that. And then. when a fighter doesn't want to do that. and only that anymore, >> you got to get out. You got to get out. Cuz there's some [ __ ] 20-year-old. Mike Tyson out there. There's some. animal. There's some dude that lives, breathes, sleeps fighting, and they all. they want to do is land shots and take.

you out. They just they that's their. whole focus in life. They don't give a. [ __ ] about relationships. They don't. give a [ __ ] about where they live. They. don't give a [ __ ] about anything just. winning. And that's how you become a. world champion. That's how you become. elite. You can only maintain it for so. long. It's not a normal way for a human. being to exist. It's very It's a very. strange way to live. >> Yeah. You know, and for her it's. natural. Like she's a woman. She's like, "I want to have babies. I have this. great man." And and she's married to. Travis Brown, who's also a beast, who is.

a elite UFC heavyweight, top 10. heavyweight, >> you know? She's like, "I'm done. I make. some warrior kids. >> I get it.". >> I saw it and I was like, "What the hell. does that mean?". >> Quitting. >> She just didn't want beat up, you quit. >> Now my nieces root for Holly Holm. Good. lady. >> Yeah. >> Holly Holm's nice. >> She is nice. >> Yeah. >> That's what we like. We like the winners who are nice. >> Yeah, I get it. But there's something. about Ronda being Rhonda that made the. sport what it is. >> But I root for Luke Skywalker, not Darth.

Vader. >> She's not Darth Vader. >> Sure, Darth Vader's cooler and he's. probably more strong. He's got the. thing, you know, but you know, Luke's. the good guy and I like the good guy and. I root for the good guy. >> She's not a bad guy. She's, you know, like look, her mother was a badass. Her. mother was a a elite judo competitor. >> Actually, I hate disagreeing with you, Joe. >> But she's she went to wrestling, Rhonda, and then she said all these terrible. things about the wrestlers. She said.

terrible things about you who I love. >> She didn't say anything terrible about. me. >> She said, "You're not an expert about. all that's not terrible. That's just an. opinion. >> Seems mean to me.". >> No, no, no. That's all. Look, if I was a. [ __ ] it would be mean. >> Well, I'm a [ __ ] I'm defending you. That's what I'm doing. If I was like, >> that's what we do, dude. >> That's my whole identity. >> I'm just saying I uh you know, she she's. kind of a grumpy, gnarly warrior, and. warriors can be a little prickly. >> She's definitely prickly, >> that's all. >> But that's why she was awesome. You. know, >> that's what made her great at what made.

her great%. She broke that door wide. open and all the women that came. afterwards follow. And it's hard for. women to become famous in in MMA because. it's hard for them to have the kind of. spectacular results that men have. They. generally don't have as much power and. unless they're like elite at judo or. something like that like she was where. they get arm bars and finish people. quickly. But that's what everybody. likes. Everybody likes dominance. >> And I want them to be hot. >> That helps. >> That's a good one. But it's hard to mix.

those worlds. >> Yeah. You get Nisha Warrior, Holly. There's only a few of them that were. like really hot and elite. In the old. days, they weren't looking at the battle. lines and they're going, "I wish these. warriors had more tits.". >> Like, that's what I'm like, a very. conflicted person. I wanted to be. badass, but also hot. >> Yeah. And crazy to get both of them. This episode is brought to you by Happy. Dad Hard Seltzer. A nice cold Happy Dad. is low carbonation, gluten-free, and is. easy to drink. No bloating, no nonsense. When you're watching a football game or.

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crazy. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Especially while they're fighting, you. know? It's like you don't really want. that in your life. >> It's like no way. >> You know what it's like? It's like a. muscle car. Like muscle cars are great. to drive, but you don't want to take. them on a road trip. >> Oh, dude. Shabi took me to So, I have a. great Lakers hookup, right? And I I go. to all the Lakers games and uh I invited. Brandon Tra when we first became. friends. I said, "You want to come to. Lakers game with me? You'll like it. We. we we sit. We have great seats. We'll. put you in the I'll be we'll meet the. owner. It'll be great." So that's what. my only kind of flex, you know, that I.

can bring people to these kind of. things. Much I don't have a lot to. offer, but I can offer that. So he's. like, "Yeah, I'll pick you up." And he. comes to my house. Brandon Shab comes to. my house like in a race car. I mean, this thing is it's got the big spoiler. on the back. Also, we're both we're both. big guys. I'm 6'4. He's I don't know how. tall he is, but he's taller than me. And. we're in this tiny thing in traffic on. the 101 going to a Lakers game and we. can barely talk. We're both talkers, you. know, and it's like. the whole time. And I was just s like.

what halfway through the drive as even. though we were like new friends at the. time. I'm like, "What made you pick this. car? You have other cars." And he goes, "Well, you're like a little kid and my. son loves this car, so I just I I picked. it because of you. >> You're like a little kid. Yeah, >> that's hilarious. >> And he was right cuz when he pulled up I. was like, "Oh, this is awesome." But. then I got in and I was like, "Bro, we're not built for this thing. It's. tiny.". >> But that's not a like your analogy like. that's not a dayto-day. >> No, that's not a road trip car. You want. to be in a Cadillac, you know? It would. be something that's quiet and real.

smooth and handles bumps well. >> Exactly. >> Like a person, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. Like you want you want a one. night stand, you want a muscle car. You. want a longterm relationship, get a. Lexus. And if you go to the Lakers game, bring a goddamn SUV or something. >> Bring something real. We're in the. traffic. >> Bring something quiet with some air. conditioning. >> His thought, his heart was in the right. place. And he was completely right. >> What car was it? Do you know? >> I don't know what it is. It was like uh. I I wouldn't even be able to guess. >> You're not into cars? >> I love cars, but I like the cars. I like.

I've always loved big stupid things. Like I love like big military vehicles. >> Have you seen his one? Yeah, I love all. that stuff. Yeah, he's got a a real. Hummer with like a crazy diesel. turbocharged engine. >> Last time I was here and I did his. podcast, he had this huge Bronco that he. was like doing some thing where you. selling it like enough people buy. tickets for it or something like that. Yeah, that truck was a beautiful truck. and I like like that's what I like is. like big stupid tires. Anything in Mad. Max I loved. Anything the military. drives was like can I buy that? They're.

like no this is. >> it's not built for that. You can buy a. lot of things. >> Those Yeah, but that like you got to go. to those auctions and [ __ ]. >> Yeah, you just got to know people. You. can get a lot of things these days. >> I would love that. >> Yeah, there's some crazy. >> I've never owned anything that fits in. my garage. >> No, >> no. I have to park on the street all the. time. I had to get rid of my last Jeep. cuz I put like 46 in tires on it and I. lifted it up and like it has no doors. and no top and um so it's just parked in. Sherman Oaks on the street and I'm on. the road so much.

>> and it's just sitting there. >> just sitting there. So I come back. there'd be, you know, just like someone. would walk by with like a soda and just. throw it in there, you know, because, you know, they don't care. >> And they get mad at you, right? What do. you have? >> What a douche. Yeah. And where I am, it's not popular to have cool big [ __ ]. like that, >> right? Sherman Oaks, it's popular to. have a Prius with a coexist bumper. sticker. >> It's so annoying. I have a Cyber Truck. and uh I I. >> you can't really lift it, but since it. has an air suspension, >> you can buy pins that make the air. suspension one inch larger than whatever.

it's adjusting to cuz if you put a lift. on it, the the it's going to screw it. all up. So, anyways, long story short, I. have a lifted Cyber Truck with big. stupid tires on it and I drive into the. Comedy Store parking lot and I'm like, "This really isn't helping my. reputation." Every time I roll in, everyone's like, "What is that?". >> It used to be that if you had a Tesla, you were you were signaling that you. were a leftwing person. >> 100%. >> You know, you're environmentally. conscious, worried about carbon.

>> That that was the one of the more crazy. shifts. And we could come up with a. thousand of these, but like EVs used to. be considered like this great thing. you're doing. >> Well, they still are. >> Unless it's a Cybert truck. >> Unless it's a Tesla. I get every day. >> Really? >> In my Cybert truck. Yeah. Every day. There's a video of this lady in New. Jersey, she gets out of a cyber truck, just gets out. She was a passenger. And. this lady who's walking her dog goes, "How's it feel to be racist?". >> And she's like, "What are you?" She's. like, "What are you talking about?" She. got a ride. She wasn't even driving.

Someone dropped her off. She's like, "What are you talking about?" Yeah, you're racist. You're in a cyber truck. You're racist. And she's like, "What the. [ __ ] is wrong with you? You're you're. crazy.". >> It blows my mind. >> Well, people are always looking for. every possible opportunity to be a. [ __ ] And if they can be a [ __ ]. if they're justified in being a [ __ ]. because they disagree with you, they. will be the meanest [ __ ]. just to be a [ __ ] And that activity. happens. >> primarily on the left.

>> Primarily. Like you don't see that from. the right. Like if if someone pulls up. in a Prius with a coexist bumper. sticker, you don't see a bunch of guys. going, "Hey, you [ __ ] [ __ ] What? What are you you supporting [ __ ]. Iraq? What are you [ __ ] out of town? >> You supporting ISIS with your [ __ ]. [ __ ] [ __ ] bumper sticker on your. [ __ ] car. How does it feel to be an ISIS. supporter? You don't get that. >> ever. >> But you get that from the left. And I. don't I think it's the Trump thing. I.

think Trump was such a figure is such a. figure of like an attack vector that. they look at him like. >> it's fun for them. >> Yeah, it's fun. They have an enemy. >> Occupies their brain at all times. have. an enemy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Like Jimmy Kimmel's wife was doing. some podcast recently, Jimmy and the. wife. And the wife was saying that she. has a hard time talking to her relatives. cuz they voted for Trump. She says like, "If you vote for Trump, you're voting. against my Yeah. You're voting against. my husband and my family." Like, >> what are you talking about? Well, I.

think that that's the big scop. They've. made everything racial, >> right? Everything is racial. >> And so the last thing you want to be. called is a racist, right? So when you. make it as simple as race, like just. racial, like just that blanketly simple, then anything another color does, you'd. be considered. So you go, oh, I don't. really believe I or I think Muslims are. blank. Whatever that sentence is, you go. racist. And you go, well, there's surely. some things we could criticize about.

maybe North Korea. They go, oh, you're. racist. So it's like it's because it's. so simple and it's so vague. And people. love to keep vague things because then. they can make their I saw a comedian. I. won't say her name because I can't. pronounce it, but it's. >> that's why I won't say it. Not because. I'm holding back names. Uh Marilyn. Rishkib or Ricegib or whatever her name. is. >> I know Marilyn. >> Yeah. She used to be really nice to me. And then uh. >> she used to be. >> Yeah. She. >> she got caught talking [ __ ] about me and. I DM'd her immediately and then she was. like. and uh you know I think she's a nice.

person. >> She's a very nice person. Yeah, she's. nice. And um. >> people get caught up in that [ __ ]. >> I saw her do a bit the other night uh in. the lab where she was like that she was. like I'm texting with this guy and he. said uh she said how are you? And he. said oh I'm just really sad today about. Charlie about Charlie Kirk and and then. she goes and my hand was like my phone. was on fire. I was like. like what? And then the crowd laughed to. her defense. Like the the lab at the.

improv thought this was a hilarious. premise. And then she said um she was. like uh what part of his ideas did you. find so uh uh gripping? What was it? His. racist. She just started launching into. like about how like the fact that a guy. she liked would be sad about Charlie. Kirk's assassination was the biggest. turnoff to her that she wrote like a. whole bit about it. M. >> and I was just in my mind I was like I. can't believe that this is her take. I.

can't believe it's a take that the crowd. is on board with and I can't believe I'm. in this town uh anymore. Like I was like. a a moment for me where I was like what. am I am I insane? >> No. >> Like that's what makes me those are the. moments where you go I think I'm the. crazy person. There's a room full of. people here who agree that Charlie Kirk. must have been this terrible thing and. hence deserves being publicly. assassinated and if you feel sad about.

it, you're gross to her. >> and she wants to throw her phone away. >> and she wants to go and that's hilarious. to everyone. >> Wow. because the simple vagueness of. race, you know, like it's like this this. this constant obsession with, you know, you you have to agree with a socialist. mayor in New York or you must be a. racist or Islam f. They've just made it. so vague that it's very easy to always. label her or put thing things in a. thing. >> Well, there's there's certainly.

cult-like thinking involved in both the. right and the left. There there's that's. it's a real problem with people that. identify with any political ideology. whether they're identify as being a. conservative or identify as being a. liberal. It's a real problem because. then you lose all your objective. thinking and you have to agree with. everything that this side supports. And. generally that's never a good thing to. just agree with like a swath of.

predetermined ideas. Yeah. And one is. that public assassinations are okay and. and that they're not sad. They're sad no. matter who it is. >> And I would say even if Charlie Kirk was. a terrible person, even if he was, which. he was not, I knew him and he was not. >> Uh but even if he was, let's say they're. right about all those things, you're. happy that he got shot. >> No, the the correct way to handle. someone who has bad ideas is to confront.

them with better ideas. It's not a 30. odd six round to the neck, right, publicly where people are cheering. That's crazy. >> And they kept it vague. >> They keep it vague. That's how it always. works is like, well, I go, well, why. don't why are you why are you posting on. um social media that you that you're. happy about it or that you're not sad. about it. Just tell me simply why why. you think that. And they go, well, because his ideas were dangerous. Super. vague. Didn't say the ideas. didn't say. how they're dangerous or why they're.

dangerous. It's always vague. >> Well, there's also a problem with clips. When you take sound bites, like very. short clips out of context of what. someone's saying and then you highlight. that one particular sentence and the way. they said that sentence, you could frame. someone in a very different way than who. they really are. >> And I think there was some problems with. some of the things that Charlie said, the way he said them and in the fact. that you could take it as a clip. And. one of them was the idea of DEI pilots. >> Like the idea of any lowering of.

standards of anyone in a really. important job like a pilot because a. person is blank. Fill in the blank. because they're a lesbian or because. they're gay or because they're white or. because they're Chinese or because. they're black or whatever it is. If. you're lowering standards because you. want more people of one thing, well, you've just made the skies a little more. dangerous. He made a a very dangerous. thing which is flying a little more. dangerous. So his statement was because.

they're doing this and they're trying to. get they're using DEI to hire people and. when I get on a plane and I see a black. pilot I hope that they're qualified. >> or he wonders. Yeah. He said I don't. want I hate that when I see a black. pilot my mind thinks I wonder if they. were part of a DEI hire. >> Correct. >> Right. That's it's a problem in the way. he said it. >> Right. instead of saying that that way. because. what one of the things that I pointed. out is that what DEI especially in.

regards to education the people that it. discriminates the most against like. people say it's a white supremacist idea. to uh to be against DEI. The people that. DEI discriminates the most against in. education is Asians because Asians. [ __ ] kill it in universities. They. kill it. So much so that there was a. giant lawsuit at Harvard because they. were making their admission standards. more difficult for Asian people than. they were for white people, for black.

people, for everybody else. They made. Asians more difficult because if they. didn't, half of their [ __ ] population. in their classes would be Asian because. they work harder. It's a cultural thing. You know, I grew up in Taekwondo and I. grew up around a lot of Koreans and man, you haven't seen work ethic until you. seen first generation Koreans who come. over to America and you know they have. those tiger moms and tiger dads. That's. a real thing, dude. That is a [ __ ] I.

guess. >> Well, I mean, for these sort of. subjects, >> it's good for getting. >> great for trauma and not great for those. things, right? But if we're talking. about the workforce or symphony, >> if it's just a meritocracy, if it's just. a meritocracy, it's like who is the best. student? Who is the best this? Who's the. best that? Yeah, it's good for that, >> you know, but it's like it's the same. thing. It's like trying to be a. champion. Like you can only redline for. so long before you go [ __ ] crazy. And. the the lack of balance between pleasure. and and struggle and discipline and fun.

You have to have balance if you want to. have a good life. And ultimately, you're. supposed to be enjoying your life. I. don't think you can truly enjoy your. life without some measure of discipline. I think discipline is important. It's. the reason why you can enjoy the. relaxing moments because you earn them. You have to earn them. And I but I do. think you should have them, too. And. when I was around a lot of Korean guys, like the my friend Junks, I've talked. about him before, but he was a national. champion when we were kids. He was not.

as talented as other people. He wasn't. as fast. He wasn't He didn't have any. unusual genetic gifts that some people. had. But that [ __ ] worked so. hard. He was in residency, okay? So he. was in medical school while he was on. the national team. So he would go to. school all day and for workouts. sometimes he would take all his books, put them in his backpack and run. upstairs at at the school. Just run.

upstairs at the university. And that's. how he get his some of his cardio in. And then he would come to the gym and he. would be, you know, he'd come to the gym. for nighttime training. We'd train at. like six o'clock at night, 7 o'clock at. night, and he would be just drained, but. he would [ __ ]. >> just dig in and and get to it, man. And. it was just. >> it's that mentality is why Asians do so. well in school, right? >> It's like this pushing from their. parents, the high pressure. And again, I. don't think it's so good for you. psychologically. I don't do that with my. kids. Mhm. >> My kids do very well in school, but they.

do very well in school because of the. example that I and my wife set of be a. nice person, work really hard, have. discipline, do the stuff you're supposed. to do, don't [ __ ] off, you know, get get. the things done that you're supposed to. do the but would they be able to compete. with some kid who just came over here. from China? I don't know. which is why. other countries like America so much is. because they realize oh if I work as. hard as I can maybe in wherever they. live yes. >> you know India or some of these other. places it's not a promise that they'll.

succeed and but they love a capitalistic. America where like yeah if I put in the. work and my kids put in the work and I. force my kids to put in the work it'll. work this is an ad for better help with. the days getting colder shorter and. darker it can be tough for many and. really you never know what someone might. be going through so here's a reminder to. take the time to reach out and connect. with the people you care about. Whether. it's a sibling you see every week or a. friend you haven't spoken to in months, you might be glad you did. And more. often than not, you'll probably be.

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claim to be all about diversity. >> Asians are part of diversity. They're a. small percentage of the population in. America, but they're [ __ ] killing it. So, they try to hold them back. >> cuz it's [ __ ] because in their mind, Asians don't complain as much. They're. they're they get to work more. They're. not the ones that are out there. organizing and making signs. They're not. doing that. They're [ __ ] working. They don't have time to be going to. these rallies and cheering and chanting. They [ __ ] get to work. So, because of.

that, they're not as represented when it. comes to like grievances. So they they. you know you can get away with being. racist against them and you can get away. with discriminating against them in. higher education universities like. Harvard, which is just crazy because it. shows you're lying. You're you're not. really caring about minorities. You're. caring about very specific minorities. because they give you social clout to. represent and to to fight for them. Like. if you're fighting for black people, if. you're fighting for trans people, those.

are the people that are really noisy and. really loud. And if you're on their. side, >> you look good if you defend. >> You're virtuous. >> Yeah, exactly. >> That's what it is. It's performative. >> I think about it every week almost. It. sounds strange, but like it can these. kind of things consume me. I don't have. a wife and kids, you know, like I think. about these things all day, but like I. think about it with um. >> like in our in our business, you know, like there are so many women who. complain like, "Oh, no girls on the. lineup or only two girls on the line.". And I'm like, "There's less of you. That's all it is." In fact, the fact.

that there's less of you in our industry. is why you're able to stand out and. succeed so much quicker than your male. counterparts. So, yes, it can feel like. a boy club, cuz it is. There's plenty of. disadvantages to being a female. comedian, like putting up with these. comedy club owners or working the road. or like it is. There's. >> fans being creepy with. >> creepy fans. >> They're different like. >> 100%. And I'm sympathetic to the things. female comics have to go through. But if. they just don't understand the numbers,

like there's there's girls in Los. Angeles who are regulars at the improv. and the laugh factory and the comedy. store who have been doing it a few years. and then there's guys that I know that. have been doing it 15 years who uh you. know subjectively are very very funny uh. and uh subjectively funnier than them. but at least inarguably funny and they. they can't get any spots at these places. because that we need more women comics. alleg I We need more diverse lineups. >> They've literally said that we have too.

many white male comics. >> I've heard it my whole career. >> It's crazy. It's crazy to say. >> I was in Boston and uh there was this. long line for this festival and all this. thing. Not uh it was to submit like to. do audition. They were it was during. last comic standing times. So they were. doing these things where they liked. filming the line and going look how many. people are here to try out for our. festival or whatever. And um someone. came out and goes, "Listen, if you're a. straight white guy, you better be real. different." And all of us just cut. because it's Boston. We're all straight.

white guys. And I just remember being. like, "Well, that kind of hurt my. feelings a little bit. Like what? Like. what does that imply? I don't know. I. only know about my circumstances. I. can't have I can't One time my agent. said to Miss Timmy, he was talking. bragging about one of his clients and he. was like, "Jeff, listen, man. Like you. know, I got this one client. He's. handsome. He's uh his parents are deaf, you know, he's uh he's black. He's got. all these great things that make him. very industry interesting for the. industry. I think you're going to have. to like reinvent yourself or something. I was like, I can't make things up.

>> Like, I don't know what to tell you. I'm. a white guy. It's just Hollywood and. Hollywood's influence with the long. tentacles of the octopus. But we don't. do that in Texas. Like, in in the. mothership, it's a meritocracy. And. because it's a meritocracy, it's very. diverse. Yeah. You got a lot of women on. the lineup. You got a lot of all kinds. of people, a lot of gay people. And the. one thing that people keep saying about. the the comedy mothership is, "Oh, it's. a right-wing comedy club." The vast. majority of comics at my club are.

leftwing. The vast majority. >> Yeah. No, I I can personally vouch for. that. Yeah. Yeah. But they're reasonable. lefties. >> Yeah. They're kind people. >> who can sit in a room with a comic who. doesn't agree with their politics and. still just be human. Like that's a great. >> We We should all aspire to that. And. that's what we aspire to at that club. Like we don't tolerate any [ __ ]. ideologically, one side or the other. >> It's not supposed to be about that. It's. supposed to be about the art form. And. you know there's [ __ ] A lot of my.

[ __ ] friends are like far-left. I. don't care. Are you nice? Are you cool? Do you have interesting thoughts? Can we. have conversations? I'm down with that. But there's this propens this thing that. people do where they just decide you're. you have a different ideology than me, so you're the enemy. And I think that is. one of the stupidest things you could do. as a human being. It's weak. It's it's. simple. It's you're you're doing. something that's just too convenient. It. and you're doing it because you know. it'll be supported by a bunch of other.

[ __ ] morons because we're in a Tik. Tok generation where most people don't. have nuanced perspectives on things. >> Yeah. I like I am a Christian, right? I've been a Christian since I was in my. young 20s. I talk about it in my act. I. talk about it in my life. And guess. what? I have never once crashed out. because of my Seattle comedian friends. going on stage and calling Christians. idiots or racists or fools or dummies. I've never once gone, I can't share a.

green room with someone who would. espouse that type of hatred towards my. faith. Right? Never once. I've heard. every joke about straight white males. I've heard every and I'm nice and I can. get laughs and I'm pleasant to be around. in these comedy clubs. >> But that's why you're doing well, >> right? And I'm now and I am. >> But you're doing well because you became. undeniable. Yeah. And that's the real. meritocracy aspect of comedy is that if. you kill, if the audience laughs and. people keep coming to see you, >> you have an audience, right? And the one. thing that drives a lot of people crazy.

is they've I've done all the right. things and no one comes to see me. because you forgot the one thing. >> You might have been doing the right. >> You forgot the one thing. Be funny. That's it. >> You fell into all the easy stuff. All. the easy stuff is align yourself with. the group. All the group think all the. [ __ ] chant all the right stuff. Say. all the right things. Say things that. don't even make sense. Right. But so. that you appear. Well, that's what I'm. saying is that like Mark I got passed at. the comedy store. >> Multiple comics went to the to the.

Booker and was like, "He shouldn't be. here. Do you He does jokes about gay. people and he does jokes about Yeah. Yeah, I do. Guess what? And they kill. and I get laughs and I'm but again I'm. You could still come up to me and talk. to me and like I'm I'm not I I like. everybody. I like trans people. I have. plenty of gay friends. I I I you know, >> you might have jokes about straight. people, too, though, and you are one of. them. >> That's the thing. It's also fun to be. naughty, isn't it? Yeah. I love women, but I trash them pretty hard in my act,

you know? And so, the only reason I was. bringing all that up is that like I feel. like. >> I've never once gone, I can't talk to. someone because of their standup comedy. I'm not going to go to the improv and. go, Mary Lynn Ricek shouldn't be allowed. here because what she said about Charlie. Kirk and I was offended. I bet if you. had a conversation with her about an. actual conversation, it would be very. reasonable. >> Yeah. Because people are people and we. should be able to share these spaces. with these people no matter what we. think. I'm not so far right or so far.

Christian that I go, I can't be in the. same room. That's what cult people. think. >> Also, have you had a conversation with. her and confronted her with the reality. of what that guy had said and some of. the conversations that he had with both. trans people, people of color, all. kinds. >> He was a very kind person, >> 100%. The problem is you don't look kind. when there's clips and the clips show. you saying something. >> Aren't you afraid of that? >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. And you listen, I'm kind. of a little bit inoculated against that.

because I have so many hours of me. talking. >> So does he. >> Yeah. But in a different way where. people are listening to me having these. three-hour conversations. It's like it's. kind of hard to label me to anybody. who's paying attention. And it's just. the it's also the the benefit of having. the biggest platform in the world, right? Like it's like there's enough. people that have seen so many shows that. like I know who that guy is. That's not. who that guy is. >> I think you're giving them a lot of u.

grace because. >> you have to I because like I people, aren't you afraid of AI? No, not afraid. of AI. What I'm afraid of is clips, short context things. Even recently I. did Howie Mandel's podcast and I I got. asked for the millionth time about the. Mark Maron thing and and I was like. what? Dude, the the good part of that. Mark Maron story is that we buried it. I. I think who knows it'll rear its head. again, I'm sure. >> Not with that guy. There's no burying. anything. >> I know. But like I was like, how about. that story? Tell that story, Howie. that.

we shook hands at the comedy store and. were able to share a stage and sh not. stage but share the the a room full of. stages and um it just how's how Mandel's. team just posted the thing so you know. all the comments are like I can't stop. talking about Mark Maron again and like. that's what I'm saying is that Charlie. Kirk's guilty of or not guilty of it but. a victim of it um this this short real. thing that is out of context is not a. three-hour conversation no one's. listening to Trump in long form. No one.

listened to Charlie Kirk in long form. The people that were informed did, but. I'm saying them the the everyday person. is kind of just kind of collecting these. excerpts and then forming a group think. about those excerpts and the group think. becomes their reality. >> That's very true. >> And I'm afraid of that for you. >> Yeah, that there's that's true in some. ways, but it's also benefits you in some. ways, too. It's like there's good and. bad. Like there's little things that. you'll say that are funny that make it. into clips and that's good too. It's.

like the thing like I was talking to. Tony about this because we were talking. about people that complain about his. show and talk [ __ ] about his show. I go, "Dude, they work for you. They don't. realize it, but they work for you. They're the publicity arm, the negative. publicity arm for the Kill Tony Show. You don't worry about it and don't care. You can't, you know, >> write a book on that. Teach me how to. not care. You just got to get to a point. where you don't have to care anymore. Like it's not going to affect you. You.

know what I mean? Like but that's if but. you if you're in that position where I'm. in that kind of sort of you're not. totally ever in that position. But. you're much more in that position than. the average person. It's your duty to. not care. It's your duty to set an. example and to say look you're supposed. to be when you get to the top. You're. not supposed to be mean and like defend. it and push everybody down. You're. supposed to lift everybody up and be. what you would hope the guy at the top. would be. >> Be supportive. Try to help other. people's careers. Try to promote them.

Tell everybody how cool they are. Tell. everybody how funny they are. Tell. everybody good things that you know. Instead of complaining all the time. about about everything, find cool [ __ ]. and inform people about it. Tell people. cool [ __ ] that you've seen, cool. restaurants you've been to, cool music. you've listened to, cool people you met. Do that. That's what I try to do. And. that that's my. I that is my obligation I think as in. having the top podcast. You have to. >> set an example that's beneficial for not.

just me but for everybody. >> Sure. >> Yeah. This and don't care and don't care. as much. Don't care as much about. haters. You're going to have haters. The. idea that you're not going to have. people that hate you is crazy. [ __ ]. you could get like the One of the things. that I know from MMA, the greatest. fighters, the best guys in their prime. There's going to be guys coming up that. say he ain't [ __ ] I'll [ __ ] him up. I'll take him out in one round. It's all. there's always that he's got no defense. He's got no chin. He's got no heart. He's only good when he's winning. As.

soon as it it gets turned on him, he's. going to fold. There's always someone. talking. And if you live your life. constantly responding to those people, >> it's it's a waste of that 100 that 100. units of attention and focus that you. have. >> You got to protect that. Yeah. >> You got to guard that 100 units, man. Don't let anybody steal your units with. a comment on YouTube. >> It's And it's never in real life for me, >> right? >> It's never in real life. >> Well, that's the problem.

>> I have to open this [ __ ]. >> Yeah. before I spiral out. Even in my. town of Los Angeles, you know, people. go, "Why this [ __ ] dump?" And then I. uh And then I I'm walking around in. Sherman Oaks. I've got my coffee. I'm. seeing dogs. I'm seeing hot chicks. I'm. Mike Bree's like, "Man, what's up, Jeff?" Like, I've friends. Yeah. Wherever I go, like cuz I go to the same. spots and I never I talk to everyone. So, like I've accumulated all these. people who who go, "Oh, we know that. community is the best." Or whatever. Like in my little community, but then I. turn on my phone, you know? You seen.

this O Zomba Doomi guy? He's a Muslim. He's going to ruin New York. And then I. start going, "Yeah, yeah. What the. hell's going on with this?". >> I think New York is due for a little. socialist wakeup call. >> Oh yeah, they'll they'll wake up. These. things bounce. >> They're going to have 5,000 police. officers have threatened to resign. >> Don't you think New York kind of. deserves. >> true? Is that true? Find out if that. number is true. Cuz here's the problem. with those kind of things. It's like. right-wing people post stuff like that. and you're like, is that real? You know, are they really gonna defund.

the police? Are they really gonna, you. know, have. >> buying a house here? >> Are you in Texas? Yeah. >> Yeehaw. >> Yeah. Like about uh 30, 40 minutes from. here. >> Nice. You're already locked on it. >> No, but I'm shopping for houses on. Wednesday. Oh, tomorrow. Not Wednesday. Tomorrow. >> I got a good lady if you need if you. need one. She's the best. >> I have a chick who's pretty good. She's. like the number one in Arizona. She's. >> Arizona's not Texas. >> I know, but she has all these contacts. >> Also, I just know her, so that helps. I'm driving. It's good to be loyal. >> Yeah. And um she found a bunch of good.

stuff. Uh yeah, about 40 minutes from. here. >> Well, that's good, too. 40 minutes from. here out like Dripping Springs area. It's quiet. >> That's what I want. I want you at night. You hear. >> I want to go to a lake, >> you know, be able to like I'm kind of in. this kind of LA thing. And this I'm I. could be guilty of of being a victim of. like what I'm absorbing in my algorithm, but like Gavin Newsome scares the [ __ ]. out of me. And I I'm I'm I don't want to.

be a part of it. >> Yeah. He wants to run the whole country, too. >> It's wild. >> Pretty wild. And. >> the fires were quite a wakeup call for. even if you know, whatever you believe. about the fires, the way it was dealt. with was pretty scary. >> It was not competent. That's for sure. Even the aftermath. >> Yeah. And was not competent. >> The the conversations about talking to. different developers about doing stuff. with the land and different speculators. like what do you.

>> Oh, we'll make a smart town. Like that's. kind of what the conspiracy people were. saying before this stuff happened. >> See, when he's doing a little dance in. front of burnt houses, like that is, are. you a sociopath? Because that's how. sociopaths behave. They're not like. totally broken up by the fact that a. giant chunk of your city burnt to the. ground. Did 5,000 peace people resign? I. don't think they say they threatened to. resign. >> There's no credible evidence of 5,000. peace officers resign. Okay. Why don't. you say did they threaten to resign? >> I did when I typed it in Google and I. got the same answers.

>> Oh, okay. >> So, >> um, in perplexity, it says, "Did 5,000. people resign?" No. What actually. happened? An official data and. statements from NYPD representatives. confirmed there has been no mass walkout. while police union leaders and some. critics have warned of potential wave of. resignations or feared attrition. See, that was the thing. Social media posts. alleging 5,000 officer I didn't see any. that said resign. I said I saw something. that said are threatening to resign. Uh. go back to where I was reading. >> Um at once have been debunked as rumors.

or satire. NYPD has about 30 thou 33,745. uniform officers as of late 2025 with. staffing down only slightly from the. previous year. So it's like maybe it's. one of those things where someone talked. to some people and they said I know a. lot of guys a lot of guys are. threatening to resign. Well, I mean, that's a serious thing to talk about. anyways, whether it's true or not on the. numbers. Like, it's not a fun time to be. a police officer. For the last like like.

I pre-Black Lives Matter, I kne I' I I. know a lot of cops just in my life. I. used to perform once a year for their. like Christmas thing at the LAPD. Great. audience members. You want to talk about. good audience members? Police, military, nurses, anyone who deals with real life. is very good audience members. >> They can take a joke. >> Yeah. Great. taking jokes and they need. to see the humor in life, you know, like. or they're like they're looking for a. clown to laugh at because they they deal. with real [ __ ]. >> But, uh, that aside,

in the last 8 years, when cops tell me. they're cops at shows, it's like, hey, you know, I'm a I'm a police. Like, and. I'm like, what's with this. embarrassment? Like, why are you why do. you feel like you need to be like an. undercover police officer when you're. like, >> I'll whisper it. >> Yeah. Why? >> We I like cops. I think that they're. great. They have to go into someone's. worst day of their life every day. Anytime you've ever had to call a cop, it's not a great day. There's not a. great thing that's happening. And they. have to enter someone's worst day every.

15 minutes or every hour. And I have a. tremendous amount of respect for people. that do that. And they they feel they. feel ashamed to be a cop because they've. been vaguely blanketed as like. oppressors or racist or some sort of. power- hungry bad guys. And that's. probably a little worse in NYPD right. now as far as uh being in the city with. what's going on. So I imagine there's a. lot of people who are threatening the. same way whenever someone's president. isn't the president they want they go.

I'm going to move. They make those kind. of threats. Some people do move. Yeah. Some people do. A lot of rich guys are. really getting out of I respect Rosie. Nellen for that. >> Don't you respect that? >> Every celebrity says they're going to. leave. >> Dumb. Well, it's dumb that they left cuz. now they just can't vote and now they. >> Not only that, you're living in Ireland, >> but at least they said what they were. going to do. >> You're living in England and then your. neighbors in England don't like you. either. >> cuz they're like, "Yeah, exactly that.". But that's true. But at least they left. >> They're going to move to a new place in. England. >> Hundreds of celebrities said they would. leave and didn't. >> That's true. Yeah. There's always a lot.

of that. A lot of people said they were. going to move to Canada. Well, great. Good luck with that. >> But now you're just America light. >> Well, you're America communist. Canada's. nuts. But now you're like still reliant. on America. >> I know a sad that I wanted to look up. that I just read and put this into. perplexity. One out of 20 deaths last. year I read this article that was saying. was assisted suicide. That can't be. true. That can't be true. >> Where'd you see it? >> Cuz Aino Canada has an assisted suicide.

program. A national assisted suicide. program. >> Yeah. >> Could you imagine if there's some. corruption in that? Holy crap. >> There's corruption in everything, Jeff. Everything. Every [ __ ] thing. There's. corruption in religion. >> There's Right. There's corruption in. science. There's corruption in medicine, which becomes a great excuse to not be a. part of those things, you know? >> Oh, I won't even question if I was if I. have a creator because there's fouled. people in the church. You're like, that's so stupid.

>> Well, yeah. Um, >> it's accurate for Canada. >> Wow. in America. Canada just Yeah, >> it's Canada. Put Let me see the numbers. Put those Show show the perplexity. Look. at this. This is crazy. >> Medical assistance in dying known as MA. >> Also as known as assisted suicide or. youth in Asia accounted for. approximately 4.7%. of all deaths in Canada. >> That's wild. >> That is so crazy.

>> How do we get more specific? Like what. would be an example of like. >> we'll read into it. This proportion is. equivalent to about 1 in 20 deaths. across the country. That is so [ __ ]. insane. One out of 20 people who die in. Canada are getting assisted suicide. How. many of those [ __ ] people you could. have given mushrooms to? They could have. had an IBA gain journey. Maybe they. could have [ __ ] done something. differently with their life to get them. out of depression. How many of them have.

could could have gotten alternative. medical treatments that have dealt with. their condition. So what are the conditions? Is it Did. you put that in there? >> Average age of them is 70 77. >> So they're old. >> Yeah, that is old. But however, you. know, my mom's 80, she's great, you. know. >> Mhm. >> Like what what's going on? >> She doesn't want like what but what is. it? Are you not just because you're 77? Are you not enjoying life? Or is it is. it one out of 20 people are dying of a.

terminal illness and I am being. shortsighted because I'm not think. they're like going to die soon anyway. They choose to die on their own. Is that. the case? >> Track one is natural death is reasonably. foreseeable and track two is not. reasonably foreseeable for natural. death. >> Right. Um, so track two recipients, this. is where it gets weird because some of. them were chronically obese, some of. them were chronically depressed. They. were doing it for people that don't. really have a disease.

>> Mhm. >> So, what are the parameters? Let's let's. put this ask a follow-up. What do you. have to have wrong with you to qualify. for maid in Canada? Let's just ask that. How do you qualify for that? >> Because if it's just you're depressed, >> that's scary. >> That's crazy, >> right? And and very irresponsible. If. you have cancer and they're trying to. just like, I I'm done with my fight. Please help me, >> right? >> Is what track one is. We're talking. about track two. >> Be at least 18 years old and capable of.

making healthc care decisions. Be eligible for publicly funded health. services. Okay, that's normal. Voluntary. request. Informed consent. have a. serious and incurable illness, disease, or disability causing enduring and. intolerable suffering that cannot be. alleviated under conditions acceptable. to the person. But that's the key word, the key phrase there, acceptable to the. person is interesting. Be advanced state. of irreversible decline in capability. Okay. Um are people with depression just.

write severe are people with severe. depression eligible for maid. Write that. severe depression because you you know a. lot of people would say that is an. incurable disease. >> Where would we be without the red. squiggly line? I don't know how to spell. anything. >> I can't spell anything ever. I never. have been. >> Jamie, you're rolling the dice with. eligible. >> You're an animal. >> It knows. Uh in Canada, people whose.

sole underlying medical condition is. severe depression or any other mental. illness are currently not eligible for. medical assistance in dying. This. temporary exclusion includes psychiatric. conditions like depression and. personality disorders. The law excludes. eligibility from maid on the basis of. mental illness alone in March 17, 2027. Uh, however, people with mental. illnesses may be eligible if they have a. grievous grievous grievous or uh.

irreable boy, that's a word. >> Have you ever said that word? I. remedyable. Irremendable. I've never. said that word. Physical, but I've never. even seen that. Ired remedyable physical. health condition that meets maid's. criteria. The government has delayed. eligibility expansion for mental illness. due to concerns around safety and. appropriate safeguards. uh when made for. mental illness becomes le becomes legal. They say it like it will. >> 27 March. >> Oh, okay. That's what I'd read. Okay.

This was the issue that so they were. going to Okay. The law excludes. eligibility for maid on the basis of. mental illness alone until March 17, 2027. So there's a year and a few months. and then these people are eligible for. this. >> Uh as 25 severe depression alone is not. qualified. So, what it seems like is a. lot of people that are just not doing. well. It's the end of their life and. they're like, I'd like to go out on my. own terms. >> Fair. >> I don't want to just walk into a library. with a 44.

>> and make people clean up. >> Or they go, I'm a financial burden on my. family or those kind of things. >> When you're an old person, you feel a. little guilt that like, ah, my kids. >> That's true. And also sometimes people. like one of their loved ones dies and. they don't want to be alone. They just. can't. They've been with this person for. 45 years. My dad just died and my mom is. not doing great with the she's been with. him since she was 17. >> It's very hard. My grandfather died one. year after my grandmother died and he. was fine up until then and it was just. like the the grief was just intolerable.

>> Yeah. And she's feeling a lot of guilt. because he was kind of uh cognitively. I don't know I don't know how to say it. politely. He was just kind of not not. himself for the last like year. And so. when he passed. um my mom did feel a little relief like. you know yeah I'm kind of his caretaker. >> Right. Right. >> And so then feel guilt about the about. the relief. You know you know I don't. want to feel relieved that someone that. I'm. >> that I've known my whole life is gone.

and then now trying to mourn that. You. know it's very very complicated and. >> it's real hard when someone has dementia. or Alzheimer's or anything along those. lines. the patience that these people. have to work with dementia and those. kind of even an eating disorder is is. >> you know you can't really communicate it. to the person when they have this body. dysmorphia or these like something as. simple as that. >> those people are saints that can work. with with. >> absolutely. >> co. >> anybody cognitively or like any kind of.

like dysphoria like that's that's I mean. I I. >> those are heroes to me because I don't. have the patience for it. I'm very like. direct. I'm very like want to have a. good time. Like I'm not good at being. like how don't you see this? >> Apparently some really promising. treatments for dementia and Alzheimer's. >> Um one of them I wonder was dementia or. Alzheimer's was the supplement of uh. supplementation with selenium. See if. you can find what that is. It's one of. those things I glanced at quickly and I. was like, I better. >> probably shouldn't say this on here, but.

there's a beautiful great woman named. Lydia who I've been hanging out with and. and her mom was uh had some sort of. dementia or some some something like. this and uh she gave their family had a. real long debate about uh what the. doctor recommended was shock therapy and. it worked. >> really. >> it works for now I guess like at least. like they're all going. Now she's saying, "Hey, didn't you just. come over last week and we talked about.

this?" Like she's having things like I. that's why I'm saying I I don't know if. I should say it on here because there. was a positive outcome of the shock. therapy. >> Yeah. It's funny because someone just. sent me a link to a documentary on shock. therapy that it was a negative thing. Can you believe they're still doing. shock therapy? Right. >> And I said like, I don't know much about. that. >> Yeah. >> You know, the only shock therapy I've. ever heard was like you hear about the. horror stories. I don't know. Right. One. flew over the cuckoo's neck. >> Those are lombbotoies, though, right? >> I think that was a shock therapy thing. >> Oh, I thought those were lombbotoies.

>> Well, might be. It might be. >> We've all agreed. Although, dude, they. were doing them long after they were. out. >> Did them forever. >> Yeah, because those guys wanted money. >> The like I think it was like the year I. was born or the year before I was born, they stopped doing them. >> I heard all these stories about there. would be like people who would still um. you know, on the fringes of it because. they didn't want to like shut down their. practice. So they'd be like, "Hey, you. know, we'll still give it to you. These. this author abortions. >> and they would be like, "This. authoritarian government's not even.

letting people have lombbotoies, but. we'll still do it. I'm the doctor. that'll still do it.". >> It's a labbotomy. >> Is it? Am I saying it right? >> I think it was labbotomy. >> Dude, you know what, Joe? For for a big. part of my life, uh, I thought it was. Sarah Bell's pausy. >> Hold on. What did you just say? >> The movie was shock therapy. >> Yeah, it was. >> Um, >> and the Sarah Bell's Py. >> Yeah. We're watching this game or. something and the guy looked crazy and I. go, "Looks like he's got Sarah Bell's. palsy." My friend, no one laughed. No. one laughed. And which is a good comedy.

note is that if you say a thing wrong or. it's a false premise or something, no. one's on board with it. >> But if you say it around comedians, >> well, I said around a bunch of people. watching football. It looks like he's. got Sarah Bell's palsy. And everyone. just looked at me. And then my friend. Katie's like, "Did you say Sarah Bells?". And I was like, "Wasn't that what it. is?" She's like, "It's cerebral pausy.". And I was like, "I don't know. >> I've never seen the movie so I don't. know how it ended. It says they. discovered at the end he had been. lobbomized. >> The big chief guy was lobtomized. >> That's the plot of the movie. The big. boy. Yeah. >> Oh, so he was lobotomized, but was Jack. Nicholson supposedly lobottomized as.

well? >> They were just in a cuckoo house. Yeah. >> But at the end, >> the shock therapy here, >> right? They did shock therapy, but. remember at the end he was like totally. docile. Maybe they were letting you know. he got lobtomized too. >> Probably. >> They did that forever. When did they. stop doing labbotoies? Wasn't it like. 67? Lombbotomy. >> Lombbotoies. When they stopped doing. lombbotoies. >> This is a thing I. >> What year was it? >> I love to talk about plenty of things I.

know and don't know about. You know, it's fun. >> It's the one the one doctor did almost. all of them. >> What? >> He did onethird of them. >> That's a lot. How many did he do? >> How rich was he? Let's Let's. >> What was his net worth? >> I bet he had a nice Mercedes. >> I bet he had a huge Yeah. One third of. his 3,500 labbotoies performed were. successful and 490 resulted in. fatalities. >> Wait, hold on. >> He killed 490 people. >> Which ones were successful? What does that mean? Billy just drools. Now he doesn't [ __ ] the dog anymore.

>> He's not annoying us with his uh what. you know, undiagnosed um autism. Now. he's like now he just sits there. >> It's not successful. >> Hey, he doesn't [ __ ] the dog anymore. It's a success. That's the guy. Oh, that. [ __ ] creepy looking psycho. >> Oh my god. Jesus Christ. That's how they. did it. They went right through the. [ __ ] eyeball. >> I thought they went through the nose. >> No, they go through another way. They. could do both probably. >> There's one. >> Oh, there's the nose. That's the one I. knew. >> They do both ways. Through the nose, through the [ __ ] eyeball. [ __ ] god.

damn it. And in the end, look, he's. happy. >> Oh, I thought he was a thumbs up. He was. a mess. >> I thought he was going, "Hell yeah, >> I feel great." Imagine if they just. scrambled it a little. So, it's like. you're just on ecstasy all day. Wee. I. love everybody. >> I will say the first time I did. mushrooms, I was like cuz my buddy's. like the cool thing about mushrooms is. that you don't want it's not like. cocaine or or e or anything. You're not. you're not going to become like addicted. to mushrooms. You're not want to do. mushrooms every day. And then the second. I did mushrooms, I was sitting in the. chair and I was like, "You guys were.

wrong." And they're like, "What?" I go, "I just want to feel like this all the. time." Like like you lost your mind. Like this is the this is the right state. of being for me. Like it's the best. It. should be legal. >> It's the best drug. >> It's better at making people better. people than anything. >> Yes. All I wanted to do and and still. since then is like, let's just talk and. connect and like let let's find a way. >> Let's be nice. >> Yeah. Let's be good. Let's be nice to. each other. >> Nobel Prize FOR THE. >> NOT that same doctor, but a different. doctor. >> Okay.

>> Nobel Prize. >> That' make people go ahead and get it, right? >> So, they started getting him in 35 and. in 49 Dr. Monise won the Nobel Prize for. it. >> And so Dr. Freeman was the guy who did. one-third of them. >> Yeah. He made it a 10-minute procedure. >> In and out. Nice. >> You come in, you got an appointment at. noon. Come in at 11:00. The kid drooling. in the parking lot at 11:35. >> It's like a chiropractor. Just come in. We'll give the. >> Yeah, we'll snap fast. You'll be at. Chipotle in no time. I keep reading. stories about people that get paralyzed.

forever because of chiropractors. >> Oh, really? >> There's been a ton of those stories. >> Do you ever go to them? You're a body. guy. That's it. >> No, I don't go to them anymore. >> I went to them back in the day before I. read up on how chiropractors learn. You. know, when they say, "I'm a doctor.". >> They don't go to medical school for 3. seconds. >> That's why I hate all those arguments of. authority. You're not a scientist. You're not. It's like, well, neither are. they kind of, >> but like some invented by a magnetic. healer who was a cook who who learned. about it in a seance. He was a complete.

cook. And then he was killed by his son. who was a con man. His son ran him over. with a car and then his son took over. the business. >> and that's and then it got grandfathered. in. >> Then he won a Nobel Peace Prize. No, >> but he got grandfathered in. So, but. here's the thing. Manipulating the body. in a positive way like adjusting you has. some benefits. Deep tissue massage has a. lot of benefits like manipulating. tissue. I get a trigger point massage. It's really painful but it's very. effective. There's there's real benefits.

to it. So, there's things that. chiropractors do that do have like a. real beneficial effect on your body. being able to recover. >> But the claims, at least in the. beginning, are nuts. The initial claims. it's going to cure leukemia, thyroid cancer, just going to adjust. your back. It's a C4, C5 disconnection, pop. And then they grab you and yank. your neck. And so scary. >> And sometimes people have [ __ ]. hemorrhages from these things cuz they. violently yank your neck and a blood. vessel pops. You have a [ __ ] stroke.

Yeah. >> And that's not happened just once. It's. happened a bunch of times. I grew up. playing video games, too, where I. watching all these action movies, you. know, and I thought that just twisting a. guy's head like, you know, like you. think that's all it took, you know, like. I snuck up behind that guy in the video. game and just that's all I did. >> Meanwhile, chiropractors are doing. >> he's doing all all day. Do you ever see. him do it to babies? >> No. Oh my god, it's so crazy. People. that are like full-on nuts have their. babies brought to a chiropractor and the. chiropractor is adjusting the baby's. skull and moving the baby like yo.

>> your parental ideas of like they're all. scrapped like you're supposed to keep it. safe. The idea of handing it to a. >> chiropractor believe it. They believe it. and so they think they're doing a good. thing. >> Jamie, am I allowed to ask Jamie to. bring things up? >> Yeah, [ __ ] yeah. >> Jamie, can you bring up some uh. >> dog chiropractors? Have you seen this? Yeah. And the dogs look at the. chiropractor like, "What'd you just do?". But also, I do feel a little bit better. The dog's so sweet about it. Like, I. think I'm good. Actually, >> you got to get the right dog.

>> Lot of pit bulls cuz they're all strong. and [ __ ] and so like they'll just adjust. it. Yeah. I've seen like montages of it. and it's pretty adorable. >> Why is he going to do this dog's neck? Please don't. >> I already did it. I'll start over. >> Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no. >> And look at the dog looking up at him. >> I don't think you need to do that to. that dog. I don't think that's. necessary. >> Watch this. Look at the way he looks at. him. >> But here's the thing. Like what studies. are they showing where this is all good? >> That's a Belgian malamaris, bro. That. thing might face. I don't want to hear. it. It's I I don't.

>> I don't know if that does anything. I. don't know if that's good. I think if. you got your dog a massage, it would be. really good for them. >> But I think all that snapping and the. popping like are you loosening it up and. making it more mobile? Well, if that's. the case, you can do that with spinal. decompression and massage. I have this. thing that. >> I've been doing it to my friends dogs. and they've been loving it. I put this. thing on my neck on my Don't do that. You're gonna get a bit [ __ ] I put this. thing on my head. It goes underneath my. chin. It's got a like a rope and a hoop. that hangs on my chin-up bar and I just.

>> I've seen them advertise it because you. use it. >> Oh, there you go. Look at this. He's. giving his dog a back crack. >> Oh, bro. >> That's the camel's clutch, dude. >> That dog is sweet. He's letting you do. your nonsense, >> dude. This guy. >> Dogs just love getting rubbed. >> That's all it is. Yeah. That's all. petting is is kind of a massage, you. know. >> That's what they love. They love. massages. They don't have to pretend. they don't. You love massages, too. Everybody does. >> We don't have to ask them about that. They like it. >> If we were like dogs, everybody would. just lie down on the floor and let. people rub them. >> Yeah. It'd be fine.

>> You come over my house, dude. Marshall. will lie down immediately and let you. rub them. >> That's my favorite thing about dogs. >> He assumes you want to rub his belly. >> Yeah. Dogs don't go, "This guy's. probably a Who do you vote for?". >> The dog dogs aren't ever like worried. My dog go up to like a homeless They. don't care. >> What's up, homeless guy? >> Yeah. It's like He loves them. Yeah, they're they're the best. They're the We. don't deserve them, but I don't think. they should go to a chiropractor. But. people that think that you should bring. your doctor, it's because they believe. in the chiropractors. There's a great. article called uh chiropractors are. [ __ ].

>> Um pull that article up. >> The lady who wrote it was on the podcast. and she I I read the article and then I. had her explain it to me. Yeah. It was. back in LA and I was like, "Oh, this is. a nutty thing." I thought they were. doctors. >> I thought they were actual. >> I went to one of those ones. It's called. The Joint. And you know, you can just. like you can just walk in and they'll do. it. And. >> this is. >> I think a lot of it for me was placebo. Like I just thought like, oh, they told. me this is good for me, so I'm doing it. You know, I wasn't having pain or. anything. >> Eve Detrammont is the lady who was on. the podcast that wrote this article. But.

it's it's crazy. >> I like the title. >> It's a crazy story. >> Very direct. When you read the story of. how it was invented, you're like, "This. is nuts." Cuz it's one of those things. It's just grandfathered in. And if. you're allowed to be doctor, like we. should be doctors of comedy. Would you. like to be Dr. Jeff? >> Jeff MD, dude. >> Yeah, I not MD. What would it be? >> But you're giving people laughter, which. is the best medicine. >> Sure. >> So, I think we should get doctors of. comedy. Maybe we should do that like at. the mothership. Just start handing out. doctorates of comedy. >> That's how you got past kind of like.

>> you get you headline, you do your first. theater tour. I'll give you a doctorate. >> I worked under Ron White and then I got. my. >> I mentored under Ron White. >> Exactly. Ron White was patient zero here. because Ron moved out here before the. pandemic. Really? >> Yeah. He's the reason why I decided to. move out here because uh you know, Ron. and I have been real close forever and. knowing him from the comedy store. He. was always like one of the coolest guys. to hang out with. >> Best dude. >> He's the best. And so we were hanging. out in the back bar and he was telling. me he's moving to Texas. I go, "What?

What are you doing? You're here. Don't. go. This is nuts." He's like, "Oh, it's. the best." He goes, "I want to keep my. house out here in Beverly Hills, but. this [ __ ] place is the food's the. best. The people are nice. if I want to. fly, I'm in the middle, right? It's. three hours here, three hours. And I was. like, damn, he's got a good point. So. when the [ __ ] started getting weird in. LA and they were burning cop cars on on. the freeway, that's when daddy was like, I got to get out of here, you know, because so I my kids are little, you. know, 10 and 12 at the time, the little.

ones. And I was like, this is dangerous. And we all agreed like it just doesn't. feel right. I don't feel like they're. going to open this up. I think this is. [ __ ] Let's get the [ __ ] out of. here. >> It's not like you're an actor. >> Exactly. Right. >> Exactly. I was like, >> you acted, but you weren't an actor. >> I wasn't interested in doing it anymore. I And we were flying a lot of the guests. out anyway. And I was like, I'll figure. it out. I'll do Zoom calls. I don't want. to do this anymore. I don't want to live. here. I want to live my life. I'd be. happy making less money and and doing it. somewhere else and maybe it's not as.

good. >> Have you thought about making other. motherships as. >> We did. We have. We've talked about it. >> Where? >> We talked about New York. Um, we've. talked about Vegas. >> What about Florida? >> We've talked you. Here's the thing to do it correct. I. mean, this is just like based on what. we've done in Austin, right? What we did. in Austin is a once in a-lifetime. opportunity where we hit every green. light. Every green light along the way, we we we got in the right spot. So, like. the only way this club happens, first of. all, is I'm friends with Adam Eaggan.

from back when he was he was running the. improv in um Tempe. So that's when I. knew him. I knew him from back then. And. then he came to California and he. started working at the comedy store when. I had already been banned. So I had been. banned and I had gone on my seven-year. exodus. And he came to meet me at the. improv. >> They showed you, by the way. >> What? >> Comedy store band. They really showed. you. >> So he came to meet me at the improv and. he's like, "Dude, come back. It's, you.

know, I'm I'm there now. I'm the talent. coordinator." And I thought about it and. then I wound up coming back because of. Ahri because you know Ari Shafir is one. of my closest friends and he was filming. his special there and I had known Ahri. since he was a door man. I knew him when. he was a door man there and now he's. filming a special. I'm like I don't give. a [ __ ] I have to be there. I have to be. there for him. And uh I went there a day. before just so I could relax cuz it was. weird cuz I hadn't been there in seven. years. >> And you know it was super friendly.

Hugged everybody. It was great. And then. and then I saw Ari and Ari killed and. the special was awesome. And it was just. such a it was such a happy moment to see. him like accomplish this thing going. from being a doorman to having your own. Comedy Central special. >> while he was also doing a show on Comedy. Central. That's when he was doing This. is not happening. >> Yeah, I was on that. >> So it was like I had to come back. So. that that was 2014.

and becoming really good friends with. Adam and knowing him from the impro like. knowing him from back in the day and. then becoming friends with him when he. was the account coordinator. We had. talked about like what are the problems. with running a club like what is the. problems with like people telling you oh. you have to have more this on your show. or more that on your show or you're. problematic and people getting mad about. this mad about that. I'm like it's got. to be a meritocracy. As much as that. bothers some people, the people that. bothers, they're never good. >> David Tell's never complaining about.

diversity. You know what I'm saying? It's like the people that are. complaining generally they're mediocre. at best. And he was like, "You're. right." I go, "But you can't give into. them because there's a lot of them and. they yell and they, you know, they make. it seem like it's a big deal, but the. big deal is laughs, being doing good. comedy, being having an original idea, being funny. Here's the world through my. eyes. this is how I've crafted it for. you. That's all it is. Everything else. is a [ __ ] distraction. And we both. agreed on that. And so when. >> the comedy store shut down and then I.

moved out here, there was a like a long. time where I was like, I don't know what. to do. Like do I stop doing comedy now. and just do this podcast? Like no one's. doing comedy. We It was months and. months of no comedy. And then Dave and I. started doing shows at Stubs. >> So Dave was like, I want to do a show at. Stubs. Oh, let's do like a residency. there. And I'm like, "Fuck yeah, let's. do it." So, he and I did like a we had. done a ton of shows, a bunch of arena. shows before the pandemic together. And. so, the Stubs thing came along and I was. like, "Okay, yeah, let's just do this.

All right, we're doing this now. I guess. we're doing comedy again." And then we. started doing comedy at the Vulcan. And. the Vulcan is indoor and it's loud and. it's rowdy and it was naughty. Like, it. was crazy. You doing a November 2020. indoor show, >> punk rock. And so when that was. happening, then everybody started moving. here. Then everything then everything. got weird. And I was like, whoa, we got. like Tom Seagura moved here. Duncan. Trussell moved here. Tony Hinchcliffe. moved here. >> Brian Simpson moved here. I was like,

whoa, we got a crew here. Derek Poston. moved here. Asana Mod moved here. I'm. like, we got a real crew here. And then. it just kept escalating. Tim Dylan came. It was like over and over again. Joe D. Rosa came, Shane Gillis came. It's like. and so while all this was happening. where all these guys were at least. talking about moving there like it feels. better here like the scene feels more. alive because the LA was still shut. down. And so then Ron White basically. like grabbed me by the shoulders one.

night after he hadn't done standup in. like six months and he grabs me and. goes, "Whatever the [ __ ] we have to do, we're going to keep doing this. You got. to open up a club." I'm like, "We're. going to open up a club. Let's go. We're. going to open up a club.". >> And then that's how it all started. But. we had to hit every light. Like Adam had. to be out of a job. All the people that. we got from the comedy store that were. great, we brought over a bunch of. people. They all had to be out of a job, right? So the comedy store had to be. closed. Otherwise, why would you leave. the comedy store? It's the greatest. place on earth. >> Yeah. >> So then it was like everything else had. to be closed down. So the the comics.

knew that they could do standup in. Texas. And so like, well, let's just go. to Texas. And it just. >> people decided, I like doing standup. more than I like living in LA. >> Yeah. >> And then once they came out here, they. real I think I like it out here better. It is. It's amazing what we've got. And. also, my favorite thing about the scene. here is the mothership helps everything. around as well. So, I can't get over. every time that I've been here how. inviting, how cool all the young comics.

are. All these guys who would. chew off their arm to get a spot at your. club are here for it. And they're here. at these other places. They're doing all. these other things because they believe. in what the mothership's doing and. there's all this other stuff. So, it has. the most buzz as far buzz, that's a. stupid word. It has the it has a. feeling. It has like this vibe. It has. this aura. Whereas like that used to be. in New York and that used to be in LA. and I don't feel it in those places. anymore. I'm actually lucky that I can.

go do the seller and I can go do the. stand and I can do those things. I can. go to the comedy store. I can go to the. improv. I'm at a place where they'll. have me. But there's not like a bunch of. young guys doing small shows and excited. at the idea of even going over to the. store after their spots. Your club has. that. >> Well, there's a couple things it has an. advantage of, right? One is Kill Tony. That's the big advantage. The big. advantage of there's a show that's. Monday night that is the biggest live. comedy show on planet Earth and you. might be able to get on it. And if. you've got a tight minute and you could. [ __ ] kill, they're going to ask you.

back. And if you got another tight. minute, oh my god, you might have a. [ __ ] career. Exactly. >> You might have a [ __ ] career. And. that's happened time and time again. Like Cam Patterson is on SNL right now, sir. And that came straight out of Kill. Tony%. And you know, and Cam is super. [ __ ] talented, but so is Hans Kim. So. is a lot of William Montgomery. There's. a lot of people coming out of there that. that do great and they they have a real. career now. Ari Maddie has a real career. now. It's amazing. Casey Rocket, it's an.

amazing resource. >> 100%. So that's the big one is that. there's a real pathway and then there's. also two nights of open mic night. Two. nights. So we make sure we have plenty. of open mic night time. You get to do an. open mic night at the best club in the. world. >> And then on top of that, it's like the. club is the only club that I know of. that was designed. not to make money. All I wanted to do is. break even. I'm like, I just don't want. to lose any money, >> you know, cuz it's so much money to make. a club and build it in the first place.

You have to buy a building. you have to. hire all these people to fix it and. turns. It's a lot of money invested. I'm. like, I just don't want to lose a lot of. money. >> Which is why a lot of owners have. terrible reputations because they do all. these corner cutting or they do like the. >> they're trying to [ __ ] you over. >> Yeah. And so, yeah, but they're also. desperate in a way. Like these guys, they'll, you know, I I like club owners, but there's a lot of crazy club owners. and they're they feel that pressure of. like, I got to keep this alive. I don't. want to keep losing money. >> I used to tell comics, be nice to club. owners cuz you don't want to be one. You. do not want to be one. went and became.

one. >> Well, but still, but you're doing it. honorably. >> I the way I'm lucky that I have the. other ways of making a living, right? Most club owners, they're club owner by. definition. That's what they do for a. job. This is not what I do for a job. This is just I do this for literally to. make a comedy environment, right? >> So, it's the the club is set up so the. comedians get most of the money because. that's how it should be. >> Great. >> People aren't coming to see drinks, >> right? you know, they're coming to see a. guy do his art, a woman do her art on.

stage. >> So, that person should get most of the. money and that's how it should be. And. it should be that way because it's the. right way to do it and because it builds. the art form. You have more people. making money so they don't have to leave. as much. They don't have to go out of. town as much. They can stay in town and. develop and work on new stuff. And. there's all these satellite rooms. There's a Sunset Strip that's right down. the street from us. You could walk there. in 3 minutes. That's Red Band's club. It's killing Creek in the K is an.

awesome spot. That's where Gillis filmed. his first YouTube. He filmed it. It's. amazing. It's a great club. That's. another club we did a lot during the. pandemic. >> And then you've got all these other. clubs. Cap City is a great [ __ ] club. that's just 20 minutes away. >> They're all There's a bunch of these. satellite rooms all around this place. that are killing it right now. >> Yeah. Because comedy is a fun thing to. do it and people love it, you know, and. we can do it in a way where it's not. connected to [ __ ] Hollywood. It's not.

connected to movies. It's not connected. to TV. It's an art form in and of itself. that had been prostituted out for so. long that people thought like the golden. goose was be a late night talk show. host. That was the golden goose. A job. that I wouldn't there's no [ __ ] way I. would if they doubled my money. I'd be. like, I'm not doing that. I can't do it. It's not me. >> Right. When it's also not really standup. so many times like people are like, "So, do you want to like is it are you doing. this because of like you want to be a. movie stars?" I was like, "No, I'm doing.

it cuz I love standup comedy." Yeah. >> I just watched the starting five of um. it's called Starting Five on Netflix, but they follow NBA players. And the. annoying part is like their wives and. girlfriends. I think that's the annoying. part. Like I want to hear them talk. about basketball like the thing they. love, right? that inspires me because I. look at the way I pursue comedy, the way. they pursue their basketball, you know, like their career. So anyways, but what. what I was inspired by was like Kevin. Durant, who I thought I hated my whole. life was awesome. He just wants to play. basketball. Like that's all it is for.

him. He's like, "Yeah, I'm I just want. to go out there and hoop." And he keeps. going to that thing of like, man, I. don't want to have these arguments in. barber shops about the greatest ever or. any of those things. I it he makes. money, but it's not about the money for. him and it's not about the chicks. Those. are all symptoms of what he pursues. And. I love that cuz I'm like, "Yeah, I just. love the joke part. I love that I can. write a bit. >> and then that night try it and people. love it or they go, "What an interesting. idea or that's funny or that's naughty. or that's I've never thought of it like.

that.". you know, when you're campaigning on a. political trail or whatever, like when. you go to like the Trump rally or or. when I don't know what Kla Harris called. her thing, but those aren't undecided. voters. Those are people who are there. because they're already in. You're not. even talking to anyone who's considering. voting for anyone else when you go to a. thing like that. But with standup. comedy, when they're in that audience, they're just looking at you and going, "Hey, bro, bring me some jokes." Yeah.

>> And the crowd will listen to me and. decide if I'm not funny or funny. But. you're getting into their ear. You're. getting into them going, "I've never. thought of it like that. That guy was. making some pretty good uh jokes up. there about a subject that I thought I. wouldn't hear." You know, like it's just. like I think comedy is such a gift that. way. But I was like I was like I think. I'm like Kevin Durant. I I like the. girls and I like the money and I like. all I love all that stuff. But for me, I. I I did a spot here, uh, I can't even.

remember what it was, and they were. like, "Dude, we can't thank you enough. for coming." And I was like, "What are. you talking about?" Like, I get up on. any [ __ ] stage and he tried to slide. me money. I go, "Give it to the other. guys." Like, I I came to do this cuz I I. was happy you'd have me on. Like, I just. couldn't. >> That's a great attitude. >> Yeah. It's so much better to just tell. jokes. >> I don't need to be famous. That would be. a good symptom. That'd be a great. symptom of it, but like. >> it also comes with its own problems, >> you know? >> Oh, all those other stuff. Yeah, sure. All the other stuff. But that's the best. attitude is just love what you do. Love.

what you do and all the success comes. because of it. But the moment you start. thinking about the success only and then. making decisions based only on getting. and attaining more success instead of. thinking about the thing, you know, >> and that's what they do. They seduce. you. They go, "Want to be in this movie? Want to be those are the hyenas like you. were saying hyenas. circle, >> but I don't want to be an actor. And. thank you for the opportunity. And I. love that you believe you can make some. money off me by putting me in that. But. for me, walking my ass into a a place.

that has a stage and a microphone and. being able to be naughty and say. anything I'd like and and make jokes is. so exciting to me. If they put a billion. dollars in my bank account tomorrow, I'll still go do my spot tonight at the. Mothership and Fat Man. And if tomorrow. they said, "Jeff, you make zero dollars. doing this. You might want to find a day. job." I'll go, "Okay, but I'm still. doing my spot, right?" Like I'm still. gonna do it no matter what. Like Yeah. I. just love it. >> Yeah. I would do it forever. >> It's the most fun art form. Yeah. You. know, and the fact that we're fortunate. enough to be able to do it and make. money doing it is incredible. You should.

be happy. >> Yeah. >> If you're [ __ ] complaining, you. you're missing out. >> Oh, dude. I I won't say this comic's. name because I you know, I just don't. want any trouble with this guy, but I. remember I was at a festival and um and. I'm more criticizing his attitude on. that night. Uh we're in the green room. and they were like so excited to have. him because he's a very funny guy and. very talented and they said um they go. so how much time do you want to do? He. was like how much time am I contracted. to do? And they were like oh well you.

know you you're booked for 45 minutes. but I was just letting you know you're. at the end of the show and everyone's. here to see you so just do whatever you. want. He goes then I'm doing the 45. minutes. And I remember thinking the. [ __ ] is wrong with you? >> Like. >> they're they're happy you're here. Everyone is excited. Yeah. Just I If you. tell me that, bro, I'm on stage for 2. hours. 45 minutes of it's good, but I'm. going to stay up there, you know, cuz I. like being up there. Yeah. It's fun. >> Boo. >> It's not You're not pouring concrete,

dude. Like, you you get to go tell jokes. to these people. Like, what an exciting. job you have. That's exciting. >> I think where that comes from is like in. the beginning, it's like really hard. It's hard to do. It's hard to get paid. It's hard. And then you build up a. resentment. >> to the point where even after you make. it, you take it for granted and now you. think like what do I have to do? 45. minutes and that's what I'm doing. >> Crazy though. >> Yeah. You're like instead of like wow, I. made it. I actually I could actually get.

paid to go do comedy now. I could 45. minutes not important. Okay, I'll go. [ __ ] around. Have some fun. Let's go. have some fun. >> Exactly. Like that's So I I've worked at. Hollywood Video. I've worked at any. coffee shop that was like I' I've had. over like 40 different coffee jobs. because I just couldn't keep a job. Like. I was always living somewhere different. or like pursuing comedy so aggressively. that like I just needed a job. So I was. good at getting the job and then I would. [ __ ] off or do something stupid and I'd. get like let go or I'd move and just. ghost that job. You know, I've had all. these jobs. But whether it was Hollywood.

Video or Rock Bottom Brewery or whether. it was any of these million coffee shops. I worked at, I was always the fun guy at. the job that made friends with everyone. and goofed off because it's more fun to. have a good attitude at work and like. the job than it is to hate the job, >> right? >> Because because not because the job was. great, but because it's going to be a. better experience here if I like it. If. I at least trick myself into liking it. There's not, it wasn't my dream to put. movies in alphabetical order with.

dyslexia in Hollywood video, but I want. to enjoy my job. Like that was more fun. to like be happy to be there. So now we. get to do comedy, which is the dream. And you're you have that attitude. Like. I just can't get my mind around that. >> Well, there's some people that think. they have to be miserable to be good. There's a weird thing that I think uh. some artists feel like they have to kind. of suffer in order to be funny, like. they have to be upset. They have to be. angry. I used to think that when I was.

when I was I was really young and dumb. Um, I was thinking that maybe like I. should stop meditating because if I. meditate and achieve any kind of. enlightenment, I won't think. >> I don't think things are so annoying. anymore that I could [ __ ] on them on. stage, which is like a big part of my. act. >> Yeah. You didn't want to be happy. because you would find Yeah. Yeah. >> But that was me at 21 or whatever it. was. Well, Jerry Seinfeld, who's one of. my favorites ever, uh, despite any of. his political beliefs or any of those.

things, like I really, really respect. every time Jerry Seinfeld talks on. podcasts or interviews or whatever, because he's like Buddha of comedy, like. the way he talks about work ethic, the. way he talks about joke writing, the way. he's very disciplined, he's very good. So, I always hang on everything Jerry. says, like in those things. I think he's. the best. Look up anytime he's been. interviewed. But Jerry, although he's. clean, right, he's a clean comic. And. although he's uh a husband and a dad and. no matter what he's labeled as, he seems. to be very at peace in his life and very. successful and rich, he does have this.

edge to him, there still is like an. irritability. >> Yeah. >> And I think that's probably what you. were thinking at 21 of like I need that. I need to be. But you could. >> Well, he's also smart and he's talking. to morons all the time and that's how. you get an edge like that. Probably. doesn't have like a tight crew of cool. people that he could just chill with. >> I agree. Right. You get alienated. a. billion dollar smarter than kids, >> right? But you also you you got you made. a billion dollars from a sitcom you did. in the '90s. You never have to work. again for a day in your [ __ ] life. You have a hundred Porsches.

>> You're just collecting Porsches. You're. bored as [ __ ] And then morons want to. you know what my favorite episode was? Like I don't [ __ ] care. I don't want. to hear this anymore. >> I'm sure you get that all the time. Someone wants to tell you a story about. a thing and you go I don't know. >> Well, I think I'm a little more tolerant. than him. >> Yeah. Yeah. But he's I get it. I get why. he would be a little prickly. Like some. of the questions are really [ __ ]. stupid. Like for sure there was a big. racism controversy about his show of. comedians in cars drinking coffee. >> Which is why I'm surprised he wasn't uh.

he's not more vocal about that. But he. did a great thing like. >> he's like I don't care. Speak the. language of funny if you're funny. I. don't care what you are. Which is the. right answer. And a lot of people like. oh that sounds racist. >> It's a great answer. >> This is cra if that's racist. This is. you're expecting something that you're. not going to get, which you're expecting. people to abandon meritocracy in the. most meritocracy based art form you. could think. Like you have to have a. specific response from people, right? >> You have to get a laugh. >> Yeah. >> And you're creating it all yourself. Like. >> there's no talking. It's just you.

>> Yeah. That's it. And so if it's. comedians that you think are funny and. they happen to be whatever, it's just. who's funny because everything else is. [ __ ] this idea of there's not. enough women, there's not enough black. people, there's not enough insane. >> stop, >> right? >> Stop. >> Yeah. >> Well, there's an interview that goes, "What do you say to the people who. criticize that you don't have enough. people of color or blah blah blah?" Um, and he goes, "I don't know. I'm looking. at your audience. A lot of whies in. here." That's what he said. Oh, it's the.

best. Cuz it's like, it's so true. >> So true. >> Look at your friend groups. Look at your. life. Yeah. >> [ __ ] off. When you start running it. through everyone's genitals and skin. color, you could you could call every. culture racist. I went to my buddy's u. family barbecue who's Polynesian. You. know, he's Pacific Islander guy. Uh one. real diverse family reunion, right? Cuz. that's the beauty of a culture is that. you kind of have the whole point of. having a culture is to have some. advantages. I can't just wander into. your family's thing and go, "How come.

there's no more there's not any. Filipinos here?" Like, it's just that's. not how it works. I would say that I I. think I I I've said it a couple times on. stage, but like I wonder if like. liberals go to like Japan and they're. like, "This is disgusting." You know, it's all Japanese people here. It's not. very diverse. >> Yeah. >> I wonder, >> do they go to Russia? Oh my gosh, where's the diversity here? Like that's. not how things work. >> No, there's a lot of countries that. aren't diverse at all. And that's fine. as long as they're black.

>> You know what I mean? If it's like all. black, it's totally fine. But all like. Poland's a problem. That's a real. problem. >> Yeah. It's insane to me. >> Yeah. Well, it's People are just weird, you know, and look, racism is bad. So, because racism is because actual racism. is bad, people look for racism all sorts. of places and then they start deciding. that things are racist or, you know, they could do with a lot of stuff like, you know, we were talking about this the. other day, this idea of silence is. violence. Like, shut the [ __ ] up. Like, nobody ever punched you. Then, I'll show. you some violence. >> And you'll go, "Hey, can we go back to. the uh silence?

>> Come to the UFC with me. I'll show you. what like this is." See, that's what. violence is. Yes, this is and this is a. sport of it. These are nice people. Like, that's actual violence, not. [ __ ] words. It's definitely not. silent. >> Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me. And then. they start using sticks and stones. You. go, "Let's go back to names. I'm happy. with names. There was less blood when you were. calling me names.". >> Yeah, you're you're being silly. Silence. is not violence, you [ __ ] idiot. >> That's so dumb. >> It's silence is just silence. You can't.

[ __ ] Pretty nice, >> but it shows what you want is what you. want. Force people to comply. You want. to force people to say what you want. them to say. Put that black square on. your power. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. And it's a bunch of losers. It's. usually a bunch of losers at the wheel. that bus and they're going right off the. cliff and they want to bring you with. them. Like, what are you doing? >> Not a fun place. >> Not fun. >> Yeah. Don't like it. That's not the. world we live in. Yeah. >> Or it's not the the universe that comics. like to live in at all. That's the other. thing about all these people pushing all. these different things to call everybody.

an anist or whatever the [ __ ] you are. and how you have a phobia. Whatever it. is, all these people seem to be. miserable. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They don't seem very happy in the. same. >> and they're proud of their anger. >> which is odd. >> Yeah. >> It's like find some things to love. Okay. There's a lot to love in this. world. >> Comic went on and Kill Tony last night. He was so great and I am remissed that I. don't remember his name. And he was able. to rattle off, which I'm sure he's done. before. It's probably in his act, but he. was able to rattle off all his. interests. He's like, "Oh, I'm in." You.

know, Universal Studios, let's go. Monster Truck Rally, let's do it. And I. was like, I immediately wanted to be. friends with this guy cuz I'm like, that's how I want to live. I live or I. mean, I do live like that. And I was. like, dude, I can identify with this so. much. The little kid in me is like, yeah, whatever it is, let's go. I I go. to the B gay pride parade. I've got a. lot of gay friends. let's [ __ ] do it. Like like whatever it is, right? That's. so much better of an attitude of just. like let's let's do it all. Let's let's. let's jump in these things. Like that's. so much more fun than going we're not. going there because of this and we're.

not doing that because of this and this. is probably it's like it's too. exhausting. >> Well, a lot of people like being. exhausted because it keeps them active. They've got something to think about. It's their sports. >> Yeah, it is. >> You know, politics for a lot of people. is their sport. And it's not just their. sports. It's like their fanatical Red. Sox fans. >> It's their religion. >> Yeah. Red Sox to the death and that's what it. is. Like [ __ ] the Yankees. That's all it. is, man. >> So the sports one is where I think is a. little different because. >> the Yankees fan doesn't want to murder.

the Red Sox fan. We both still like. baseball. >> They break people's legs. >> Yes. Sometimes, you know, but I'm saying. they still like baseball. >> Yes. >> They can still agree, oh, we're at the. ballpark, you know, we're having a hot. dog. And it's like, [ __ ] you. And you're. like, [ __ ] you. And that's fun. You. know, it's fun. But like to the people. that claim they hate religion the most. are acting their politics out like. religious zealots, right? >> They're they're going, "Well, this is I. wouldn't even Jimmy Kimmel's wife. I. can't even talk to them anymore. I I. >> I don't think she I think she said she. was having a hard time talking to them.

>> I might be I've watched it a bunch." But. so what happened was she said that she. was always struggling with it since. Trump's been in office, but now she. doesn't even want to be with these. people because it's personal to her. that like that now she's made the. decision to not. >> uh. >> and it's like that's that's where it's a. problem struggling with it fine family. you want to have a talk with your aunt. who voted for Trump or something I think. that's healthy you know like let's talk. about it cuz if you're doing any of. these things and you can't defend it.

you're probably pretty stupid but when. you start going I won't even be. associated with that person because of. whatever it is that that's a that's a. problem. >> well it doesn't seem smart yeah. >> it doesn't seem healthy you know if you. don't have any room for disagreement, but it's also like the thing between. Kimmel and Trump is so dumb. >> It's very dumb. >> It's so dumb. I can't believe like And. then he went after um what's he went. after? Jimmy Fallon and Seth Myers as. well, right? >> Them losers.

>> Yes. Yes. >> That's crazy. I know. >> That's so dumb. I I don't understand. I guess no one is around to tell him. that. >> He must be in a bubble. He's 100% in a. bubble, but that's also the way he's. behaved his whole life. Like that's how. he would attack you if he was on The. Apprentice. >> You know, I was supposed to do the. Celebrity Apprentice. >> I was supposed to do it, too, but way. after it was good. >> I did I was supposed to do it with. Arnold Schwarzenegger. >> Wow. I was supposed to do it with him. >> With Trump? >> Yes. Okay. >> Uh it was when Fear Factor was returning. to NBC. They asked me to do Celebrity.

Apprentice. And I thought about it, but. my kids were really young at the time. I. didn't want to live in New York. And I. was like, "How long does it take? It. takes forever." And then also I was. like, "That guy's going to be mean to. me." I'm going to be like, "Fuck, I know. it's not fun." I'm like, "That's not. going to be fun." Like, I'm not good. with that. You know, I'll get real, you. know? >> I wonder what your political opinion. would be of Trump if you had done. Celebrity Apprentice. >> Interesting. I think he always had an. understanding of like how the whole. political process worked. Like there's. an interesting interview of him way back.

in the day. I think he was talking to. Barbara Walters. maybe was a really old. interview where he was talking about. maybe one day running for president and. this is back when he was a Democrat. Yeah. >> You know, he was a Democrat for a long. >> from Queens New York portion of his. life. >> Um, >> and you know, I think Elon said it best. He's a product of his time, you know, and that's the thing. This is. an almost 80year-old man who's a real. estate guy who likes to see his name in.

big gold letters. >> Loves America. >> because that's what he always liked. like I like my name. Big gold letters. Like everything's big and gold. That's. what he genuinely. >> if people knew that about him, they. would give him a little more grace when. he says crazy things because like if you. read his book like there was a part. where he was like he's like u. >> Okay. Do you think he really wrote the. book? >> Uh no. But I think I don't think anyone. does. Dennis Rodman didn't write his. book. You know, he just had a guy follow. him. >> Some people write their own book for. sure, >> but not the majority. Or actually that's. not true. The majority of people write.

their own books. the majority of. celebrities have someone follow them and. talk to them in coffee shops and go up. Yeah. Um but he was he was like talking. he's like this building's the biggest in. New York. It's the best and they were. like it's not even the biggest building. in this and he goes you know what I mean. like it's kind of like. >> and if you know that then you kind of. like give him a little more grace when. he's just saying it's just kind of how. he is. He's this. >> I'm the best. You know it doesn't mean. he's really the best. It means he's got. an attitude of the best. >> You saw the BBC thing, right? >> Uh what thing? You didn't see the thing.

where BBC got in trouble for editing uh. his speech. We talked about it. yesterday. I I I'll just tell you real. briefly. >> So, they took a a segment of him saying. something and then spliced in a segment. of him saying something else from 53. minutes later, >> right? The um storming of the capital. >> Yes. >> Right. From the January 6th. >> Crazy. >> Yeah. Which is. >> not journalism. Like not journalism, but. like fullon lying and propaganda. And. it's kind of [ __ ] dangerous. And. those are the things people watch.

That's what I was saying. That shortened. [ __ ]. >> Yes. But these people lost their jobs. because of it. It's a big deal. >> Yeah. And not only that, but like. they're gettingounded by reporters. They're asking them and the the answers. that they have for why they did what. they did. It's like crazy. >> They felt it seems like these people, this is just my opinion, seems like. these people felt justified for. completely lying because it would lead. to an ultimate good. So they lost all. journalistic integrity and it is the BBC.

which is like the height of journalistic. integrity. If that doesn't show the rot. of mainstream corporate controlled media. then nothing does cuz that that's pure. rot. If at the top of the heap you got. like in in my mind if like somebody said. something to me and they quoted a source. and it was the BBC I was like okay. that's like Washington Post. That's like. New York Times. It's a very official. source. So, I'm thinking this must be. real. And they turned it into activism.

and they turned it into lying. And they. did it in front of everybody where you. could clearly just listen to the whole. thing and know he didn't say that. That's not how he said it at all. >> Yeah. It's like what? And I think uh I. I'm sorry that I keep harping on this, but like that's what AOC or kind of the. left I see most guilty of doing is in. their brain they go, I know that this is. a little like whatever, but it's for our. greater good, >> right? >> So they're they're they're doing that.

with their own thing. Listen, I don't. I'm smart enough to know that Charlie. Kirk was trying to make a point about. blank, but if I twist this a little, it's for the greater good, right, >> of what I'm trying to do here. And so. they justify it to themselves. They say, "Oh, well, now I know that I might have. been a little political politiciany. here, right? >> But it's for a greater good." And it's. vague. And it's like, listen, he look, he hates black people. That's why um. Obama disappointed me so much during the. Kla Harris campaign because he did that.

thing where he said, you know, that he. said that white nationalists are very. fine people. >> Yeah. >> He said, "We have very fine people on. both sides." And when you hear the. actual quote and the difference between. what they're saying, he said, and what. he said, what he said was the exact. opposite. He said, and I'm not talking. about neo-Nazis and white nationalists. He said he's like, I don't I forget the. exact wordage he used. they should be. condemned. Whatever he said, but along. those lines specifically said, not those.

people. I'm talking about people that. just didn't want these statues torn. down. Yes. That there's very fine people. on both sides. >> And some people just like go, "Yeah, I. was Roberty Lee is a really bad guy.". But it's like this is a part of history. >> It is. >> Yeah. This is this is like this is just. reality. >> Yeah. >> But that using that during Kla Harris's. campaign, I was like that's you know. what he said. you must know. But why. would you sacrifice what's so valuable.

is like your stature and your integrity. Why would you sacrifice that for someone. who just probably wasn't going to win. anyway, >> right? I mean, I don't know if it's. money or if it's some sort of oath or if. it's intentional, whatever, but like. that stuff's so dangerous. I really like. that shortening of like what someone. said, taking out of context. I think. there's also the consequences of u. people going to trial for that Russia. gate stuff because I think that that. Russia gate collusion hoax that they.

perpetrated on mainstream media for. years and a lot of people are really. comfort uncomfortable with even saying. it was a hoax. No, it was a hoax ladies. and gentlemen. It was a hoax and a lot. of people coordinated that hoax and. there was a lot of people involved and I. think they're super sketched out about. Trump being president again and possibly. digging into that stuff and he's doing. that now. >> Yeah. >> And you're finding real evidence that. the people that you would think the. intelligence agencies you think what are. they here for? They're here to make.

America safe and protect us from. problems. But it seems like they also. meddle. Yeah. And not just meddal, but. like completely try to sabotage someone. and paint them out in a way that's. completely inaccurate. Knowingly, willingly with taxpayer dollars funding. it all. >> For the greater good. For their greater. good. >> Bro, I might say very fine people, too, if I was doing that. >> Whatever. He's a [ __ ] Nazi. >> Uh, let's not. Yeah, >> he's Hitler. >> Let's say whatever the [ __ ] keep him.

out of office. >> I think that's what happened with the um. in a way that's kind of what happened. with like the Epstein list thing. I. think like the reason you're never going. to see that is because there's just too. many powerful people that are in that. that are on both sides. It would kind of. be a not a collapse, but like a social. kind of like collapse of like. >> not just that, but. >> both sides. I mean, I don't think. there's like that you're not going to. find all liberals went to this island. You're not going to find all. conservatives went to this island. you're going to see a list of some of. very powerful creeps on everything. So,

it's like both this like stalemate of. the right and the left going maybe we. just won't do this. But it's not just. that. It's this ball of yarn of what did. they do with the information? What did. they if they did compromise you and they. did fly you out to an island? You did. have sex with underage girls. >> What did you do then when you were. confronted by the fact that they know. this, >> right? >> What did you do? like what decisions. were made, what foreign policy decisions. were made, what financial decisions were.

made. Yeah. What money got donated, how. much money transferred back and forth to. different accounts because of things. that happened there. Yeah. >> How many huge international decisions. were made by people in powerful. positions because someone has a video of. them doing something very compromising. on an island. That's why I'm glad that I. I mean I might not be the very rich or. anything but like if something you know. if they try to figure out something on. me this is this would be their research.

they'd be like all right we found Jeff. died he likes a sprite you know. uh uh he also watches pro like they. they'd have nothing they would just be. searching. >> but you're not a guy who's trying to run. the world the thing is everybody who. wants to run the world everybody wants. to be the president everybody they're. all [ __ ]. >> they've all done weird [ __ ] [ __ ]. They're [ __ ] crazy. And then they get. into a position where they have like. ultimate power and they're putting. [ __ ] masks on and [ __ ] each other. and I mean that's skull and bone stuff.

>> Crazy stuff to me. >> Yeah. Well, there's always been these. weird secret societies of people that. get really wealthy and they do kooky. things and they wife swap and Yeah. >> It's very strange. >> People lose their [ __ ] minds with any. kind of power and you got the kind of. power where you're literally like. running the government. You're literally. running the whole country. want to do. bad stuff. Like it's cra like it's like. I guess my brain's too small. >> You don't want to run the government. >> I know. But if I I just I think to. myself I'm like it's crazy that that. there's this much [ __ ] on all these.

powerful people. Like it's crazy. >> It's not crazy though cuz you think like. what is their pursuit? It's just like. very bizarre pursuit because either they. really are for the people and they. really want to make the world a better. place. Well then you're not going to get. anything on them because then they're. Bernie Sanders, >> right? >> You got nothing. >> Yeah. They just. >> you got nothing. He you know he might. not be effective but you know you don't. have anything on him. He's not going to. compromise. He doesn't have to. He got. nothing on him. Or you you got someone. who wants to be a leader for some. strange reason and they they're really. not that extraordinary, but they're in a. really shallow pool of talent. Cuz.

that's the real truth about running for. president or running for governor or. running for mayor is it's a [ __ ]. shallow pool of talent. Because most. people that have any kind of [ __ ]. talent talking don't want that job. Why. would I want that job? Why would I want. people to [ __ ] shoot at me? Why why. would I want half the country to [ __ ]. hate me no matter what I do? Why would I. want to get in and find out that this. interwined web of [ __ ] money and. power and influence there's no way to. fix it and I'm just going to sit here.

for 4 years being a bad guy in a stupid. white house. Like [ __ ] that. >> cuz you took a photo with something on. it. Yeah. >> So the people that want that are all out. of their [ __ ] minds and they're all. cooks. They're all Gavin Newsomes. They're all Kla Harris's and Donald. Trump's and they're all kooky people, you know. And some of these cookie. people will do a better job than other. kooky people, but only kooky people want. the job. And until that changes, and. until not just kooky people want the. job, non non-cookie people want the job. being president, but non-cookie people. involved in Congress, in the Senate, and.

everything. Regular rational people that. can have real conversations and not try. to diminish whoever you're talking to. and every in the most reductionist way. possible. make them out to be a [ __ ]. because they're on the other side. Actual solving of problems without you. doing it at the behest of these massive. corporations that have been donating to. you. So, you have to [ __ ] your way. and gaslight people and you can't be. honest about your real opinions. That's.

the real [ __ ] problem with that whole. system. It is absolutely contaminated by. both money and the promise of money in. the future if you play ball. That's. where it gets real weird. >> Yeah. They leave government jobs and. start working for pharmaceutical drug. companies that they were regulating just. 16 months ago. >> I It's. >> It's like it's like X or like Twitter, you know? It's like like nobody's on. there to go, >> oh, I'm going to like try and find some. people's ideas. It's all like debate.

culture. Like you could put the most. simple thing and you have 700 people who. just want to go butt like the the the. goal is to debate and argue and get into. like win and dunk on your opponent and. make someone say there's not like nobody. like you said in the beginning is like. nobody's trying to just go I think I. really want to make it fair like no. one's saying that. >> No, what's even more fun is Blue Sky. You ever go to Blue Sky? >> If you make an account even in your. name, you say Jeff Die, I bet you'll be.

banned. I hope that you'll be banned. within 20 minutes. Yes. Yeah. You're. problematic. You're a toxic male. You're. heterosexual. You're a cisgendered male. >> That's. >> um which is what. >> we already had male. We don't need to. add that. I don't I'm not doing it. >> I thought I got to choose my pronouns. Why did they get to put cyst on me? Cis. on me. >> But if you go there, um I saw this one. conversation where someone said they. were talking about something saying, "I'm trying to be zen about it." And. then the next person say said, "Try not.

to be racist against Asian people." From. Zen Zen Zen. >> Yeah, that's insane. I mean, that's. crazy. It's whack-a-ole. They're just. sitting there ready to whack. They're. just ready for someone to pop up with. any micro. aggressions, any diversions from the. narrative. >> It's so exhausting. >> Great. You're. >> I've never heard of this. It's like a. liberal kind of like Facebook or. something. >> Most people bailed on it. So, a lot of. people like Stephen King said, "I'm. going over to Blue Sky." They all. decided to go over to Blue Sky because.

Trump let them say whatever they want on. Twitter and they just didn't like the. reality of the world, >> right? >> And so, they're like, "This is [ __ ]. I'm leaving." And they all come back. They all come back to Twitter cuz X is. more fun. >> Exactly. >> It's It's nuts, but it's way more fun. than everybody just calling you racist. for everything. >> I do think that's the current problem. with the world. I know that's very. vague, but like people just want to win. the talk. Nobody wants to have the talk, >> right? >> So, it's it's more about like, well, here's what you haven't thought about. this. Like, it's it's like it's like,

why are you talking at anyone like that, right? >> Like, hear them out. >> And then they also have the uh give them. the luxury of being wrong. It's okay to. be wrong. >> I'm wrong all the time, but like like we. the only way I can be right is if I say. the wrong thing and I learn or you know, that's that's we should be having. conversations, not arguments. But the. the thing is now you attach that to. politics and you literally have to win. the arguments because that's what the. whole game is. The whole game is like. get up in front of all those people and.

state your claim and diminish the claim. of your opponent. And that's it's. stupid. But they have to do it because. they have to get elected because if they. don't get elected then they don't have. power. And if they don't have once they. get into power then they have to use. that power for their constituents and. for the people that help them get into. power. So there's a bunch of [ __ ]. needs of these and there's a bill. You. want to put this in the bill because. it's going to help the oil sector and. this in the bill is going to help chips. and. >> and so of course you're going to put a. mask on and go [ __ ] a guy. You're crazy.

You're doing a crazy job. You're doing. ecstasy. You're hanging out with all. these people that are running the world. Of course you're sucking dick with a VHS. camera somewhere. That's why I'm walking. around town with a leather mask being. walked by my boyfriend. >> They can't take it anymore. They're. living an insane life where they're. producing no value. So there's nothing. they're doing where unless they're real. Like that's one of the things about. Bernie Sanders. Love him or hate him, that's a real guy and he has real. beliefs and he's been steadfast about.

these real beliefs from the beginning of. his career. From there's a a photo of. him that we play we showed on the. podcast of him getting arrested at a. civil rights protest. Yeah. in the. 1960s, I think it was. >> He's always been that guy. That's who. that's who he is, >> which is great. >> Yeah, that's who we need. >> If you're not that, then what are you doing? You're trying. to just get ahead. You're trying to win. You're trying to gaslight the best. You're trying to make your way through. this weird game where you could be a. senator or you could be a governor and.

then maybe you could be the president. and you have eyes on the throne. First. thing I'm going to do is take that tacky. [ __ ] gold leaf off the wall. Trump. put gold leaf everywhere. >> He likes gold. What's wrong with gold? It looks bad. >> Cares about his home decor. >> It's the White House. He made the There. was people complaining he made the White. House look tacky. It looks beautiful. >> Yeah. Well, also, who cares? You don't. live there. I don't give a [ __ ]. >> Well, they just don't want him doing. that. They don't want him like, >> "Didn't he do it with his own money and. stuff?" I mean, they they've always done. that.

>> Taft put a [ __ ] He invented the hot. tub on accident cuz he was like, "That. tub won't fit me. I'm too fat.". >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. And then they forever like people. will go, "Oh yeah, didn't Taft even that. big fat guy got stuck in a tub." And. it's not true. He was just a big guy. made a funny joke and for now like now. all these young people are like, "Oh. yeah, Taft, the big fat guy that got. stuck in a tub." It's not true. >> He accidentally made a He just made a a. modification to the White House and it. basically invented a hot tub. >> Well, people are also upset that he's. making a ballroom. You see, he's making.

this giant ballroom. >> It's all right. It doesn't bother me. >> And he found out you're allowed to. Yeah. And then uh he goes he he goes uh. what's the deal with permits? They're. like you don't have to get any permits. You're the president. You can just build. it. He's like he's like amazing. >> as a real estate guy. He's like that's. [ __ ] great, >> right? For a guy like that. It's like. you just gave him the coolest [ __ ]. present ever. He can make a a beautiful. beautiful ballroom and people are so mad. and they were saying that it was a waste. of taxpayer money, but it turns out it's. not. It's all donations. I think you can.

look this up, but I think Obama spent. like $350 million of taxpayer money. making modifications to the White House. >> I think that's true, too. And like did. you. >> No one cared. And I don't care about. that either. I'm not using that as a. what about. I'm saying I also don't care. that Obama did it. I don't give a [ __ ]. >> Can I get a receipt? >> Right. >> $350 million. What did you do? Like what. cost $350 million to a house that's. already standing? Could you imagine if. your construction guy gave you a bill. like that? like I just want to fix it up.

nice and let's do all this and then send. me a bill and you get a bill it's $350. million you're like hey. >> wait I need to talk to the foreman here. thing about the White House it's not. that big. >> right. >> it's not that big dude. >> there's some pretty beautiful houses for. 1.5 that's a whole house. >> a whole house. >> $350 million is so much money did you. make another house underneath the house. how did that happen a tunnel to a giant. arena that's under the Maybe the guy. gets 500 grand an hour to do the.

construction or something cuz I don't. understand. >> doing it at the White House. He needs to. get paid more. >> It's like weddings, you know? They're. like, "Uh, they're like, uh, I'd like to. buy a cake." And they go, "Sure, $40.". He goes, "It's for my wedding. $5,000.". They just changed the price. You what? I. needed a bunch of flowers. You gave me a. great rate. But then the second it's for. wedding, those flowers are now like this. crazy. >> Maybe that's the White House prices. Yeah, >> because they know it's taxpayer money. But $350 million seems like real. excessive. I'd like to know what they. did. >> Didn't one of the Was it Nixon or.

somebody make a bowling alley in there? Nice. >> Yeah, that's cool. President do. >> Is that what they do? Like you you're. allowed to just You're going to be there. for four years. Put a bowling alley. >> I think you get to I don't know if. that's true, but somebody put a bowling. alley in over a pool or something. I. read. But also, I didn't care. I just. go, "Sure. If I was president, I'd. probably make some adjustments.". >> You see, he took Biden's photo down and. put a picture of the auto pen up. Oh, I. did see that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't. know if it was real. I have a real. struggle with like what I see is real or. not. >> It might not be real. Let's find out if.

it is real. I think it is real, though. >> I think that's what I heard. Obama's era. project covered renovations. Trump. knocked down a whole. >> 376. >> Uh, okay. $376 million cost to improve the. east and west wings infrastructure. >> Uh, PC described the project as largely. underground utility work. doesn't do a. whole lot of good to have a building. that's sort of an image of the free. world standing up there and not. functioning well. PC told CNN when. questioned about the cost. Bloomberg.

News reported in 2010 the Obama. renovation was the biggest White House. upgrade since President Harry Truman was. in office 48 to 52. Truman oversaw the. White House historic gutting renovation. and expansion in response to significant. structural issues that at one point. resulted in the leg of his daughter. piano breaking through the floor. Trump's project will be the first major. exterior change of the White House in 83. years. Historic preservationists say, >> you know, I read that and I just said, "Oh my god." Cuz the leg of his daughter.

and then it's the leg of his daughter's. piano. >> I read it, too. I was like, "Oh, no. Just the piano broke.". >> Yeah. That was very deceptive the way. they typed that. Just the piano leg. >> Yeah. >> Piano through the floor. >> Piano went through the floor. One of the. piano legs went through the not the. daughter like the. >> daughter's legs. Fire. >> Why you bring her up? You're freaking me. out. She's not in this story. >> I thought a kid broke her leg. I was. panicking and it's just a [ __ ] stupid. piano. >> But that uh that building's not that. big. So I guess that makes more sense. though. They had to do like crazy.

underground infrastructure [ __ ] that. probably. >> I would wonder what's under the White. House. >> Heating, cooling, and fire alarm systems. that hadn't been updated since 1902 or. 1934. >> Still, I'd like to see a receipt. >> Also, >> I'm feeling ripped off. used to always. say I don't think that any president. ever is at the White House because or. they go to the White House but they. don't live there like. >> yeah they do. >> you think that they live there. >> they do they have a residency. >> well I think there's like a tunnel to a. different place that. >> there's another building but they they.

live in that building. >> cuz why would you want to put the most. powerful person in America in the most. famous address in America. >> giving people ideas well it's a secret. service you know we keep them secret. don't give them ideas weird cuz you know. before he sleeps all the time, >> right? That's crazy. >> You You have more security in anonymity. than knowing where someone powerful is. Like that's crazy. Even no matter how. much security you have, the secret is. the best part of it. That's why secret. service is good. You want a secret.

address. You want a secret home. >> You want to move them around. Yeah. >> Don't have them at the same spot every. night. >> I think the White House has called it. the famous the most famous address in. America. Like they say it's the most. famous address. >> It is the most famous. So, why would you. put someone so powerful in the most. famous? Like, I just think that like I. even when I was like in high school, I. was like, I bet that they I'd like to. think that we're not keeping the. president in a place that everyone knows. about. >> Yeah, but they do. Uh hopefully no one's.

listening to this and you gave him an. idea. >> I hope not either. Violence is bad. That's the That's the point. >> Do you remember back in the Obama. administration when that crazy person. broke into the White House? >> Yeah. got pretty far. >> Didn't you have a bit about it? >> Yeah, I had a bit about it. >> There was a lady guarding the door. without a gun. >> Yeah. Like what are we doing? >> Think that is crazy. >> That's so crazy. >> Your bit might have given someone some. ideas like I could get pretty far, >> bro. They got that guy got all the way. in if it wasn't for a offduty secret. service guy who saw that guy running. through the [ __ ] White House and he.

tackled him. He just happened to be. there. He wasn't even on duty. >> What do they think? Just like, well, no. one's no one's going to break it. >> Yeah. Like what? Who would do that? >> Fine. Like that's crazy. We're fine. Yeah. It's so crazy. The the people that. have never been around crazy people, they don't know why labbotoies were done. in the first place. That's true. >> Back then, people are like, "Eough of. Mike, >> right? >> We got to slow Mike down. It's. >> Or you see like uh like you work at like. a homeless place and you go, oh, I kind. of get it, >> right?". >> Yeah. You go, "Yeah, you could kind of.

go, oh, these people, I don't know. I. don't know." you know, they've done so. much stuff and drugs and they've traumas. and all this and you just kind of go I. could. >> see how in the olden times they would. go, these people are broken. Let's, you. know, >> especially if they're not medicated. Like there's out and out like hardcore. mental illness involved in most of the. homelessness, a large percentage of it. at least. >> Yeah. Which is a controversial. statement, but it's 100% true. Well, the. mental illness leads to drug addiction, drug addiction, self the.

self-medicating, you know, a lot of. trauma, a lot of things, a lot of. factors. But. >> the answer to that isn't just let them. camp, >> right? Let them be in front of your. house whacking off, shouting bomb. threats. Like that's not ignoring it. isn't the solution. >> Yeah. Not talking about it is not the. solution. Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't think labbotoy is the way. to go. But I don't I don't know. >> I just meant like in the 30s they would. see that and go, you know, let's put. this guy in a room. Well, in the 30s, I. bet people in the there was a bunch of. people that were in shanty towns in New.

York City back during the depression. >> Oh, yeah. >> The depression was so bad that New York. City had like, you know, like these. little handmade houses like that people. had built. You ever see any of that. stuff? See if you can find shanty towns. from New York City from the Great. Depression. >> Yeah, man. It must have been so. dangerous. I mean, it's basically. homeless encampments in the middle of. Central Park and there's no jobs, man. There's no jobs and there's no [ __ ]. >> depression. Isn't that wild?

>> Isn't that crazy, man? Imagine living. out there. How dangerous that would be. >> That's downtown Denver right there. >> And that's all because of the. [ __ ] bankers. That's all because of the bankers. They. crash the stock market. >> That's crazy. I was just hearing. something really crazy where someone was. making a connection. between Rockefeller and um alcohol being. uh during prohibition.

that one of the competing fuel sources. back then was ethanol. I don't even know. if this is true, but that rock, you. know, Rockefeller had control of oil and. they were using oil to make. pharmaceutical drugs. So like most of. the drugs that people buy, the reason. why they started doing it that way is. because Rockefeller because he had. control of the oil. >> And this was saying that he wanted to. stop them people from using ethanol. So. he wanted he thought the best way to do.

that was to make it so that no one could. have the ability to produce alcohol. >> And the best way to do that is to make. prohibition about alcohol. But. >> really, it. >> sounds crazy. It says it's a myth. Well, let's see why they say it's a. myth. John D. Rockefeller is often. blamed for using prohibition to. eliminate ethanol as a competing fuel. source to gasoline from his standard oil. business. But this is a myth. Rockefeller supported the temperance. movement primarily for religious and. social reasons. Okay, that's the excuse.

that's publicly stated that he supported. alcohol prohibition for religious and. social reasons, believing alcohol. consumption was harmful and aiming for a. more productive workforce. So, this is. the problem with these are not quotes. This is like someone saying why this guy. supported banning alcohol and not yes, he did work to ban alcohol and yes, he. did benefit from it because ethanol was. taken out. That's that is true. So. ethanol as a fuel was not banned. It's.

saying. uh explicitly allowing even promoted the. use of high proof alcohol for scientific. research fuel or other lawful industries. during prohibition. Ethanol as a fuel. was not banned. In fact, some. industrialists including Rockefeller. dabbled in ethanol fuel production. Henry Ford also pursued ethanol fuel. development during this time. Okay, so I. take back what I said. So it's not that. it was banned. So that doesn't make any. sense then. Um it would make sense.

if somehow or another. could you if you were using ethanol. though the thing is like if you stop. people from making their own alcohol if. you make it illegal to make your own. alcoh al alcohol you definitely can't. make your own fuel and then you can't. use ethanol because you can actually. make ethanol with corn. >> That's how they make it. So, I could see. how you would say if you wanted to sell. more gasoline, you would make it so. people can't make their own fermentation.

and you can't make your own alcohol. And. one of the best ways to stop people from. making their own alcohol would be the. prohibition of alcohol. >> You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. >> Like it doesn't seem that clean to me. That looks like a little squirrely. Like. he supported a prohibition of alcohol. because of morals, but yet he was like. really involved in a lot of shady [ __ ]. that seemed like he was very controlled. religious beliefs were sidelined. >> Yeah, man. The it also he had a part in. the structuring of the education system.

to make people good little factory. workers. >> Yeah. >> Get them up early, get them get them to. school quickly before their parents can. like give them any sense of how the. world really works and then brainwash. them. >> Get them in there and make good workers. out of them. He was a big part of that. as well. Like. >> that guy had a lot of power. >> Yeah, that's he'd have been an. interesting guy in politics. So, it's. not true that he that ethanol that they. prohibited it, but it is true that they. kind of eliminated people making their. own alcohol. And if you're not if people.

aren't like making engines from ethanol, cuz most people are using gasoline at. the time. It seems like. >> they don't have the materials. >> Yeah. It'd be a good way to stop people. from making their own gas and then. you'll sell more gas. I tried to buy. something recently uh because I had like. a chest cough and they're like, "You. should get this shit." And then I went. to the riate or whatever it was and. they're like, "Oh, that's behind the. counter." So I go up and ask her for it. She needs my ID. She beeps my ID and I. go, "Why?" She goes, "Oh, cuz enough of. this you could make meth." And I go,

"Really?" She goes, "Yeah." So we have. to like make sure that the person like. that it's kind of documented who bought. it and how much. >> like sudafed, right? >> Yeah. I think that Yeah. Something like. that. And then I was like, "Oh [ __ ]. then I need 700 of these." Yeah. >> Uh but like I didn't even know that's. like. >> guys were making meth. >> You got to regulate all that kind of. stuff. Can you imagine how bad that meth. was? You get some [ __ ] that go to. the grocery store and just clean up the. the pharmaceutical aisle. >> That's the sad part about addiction, man. You'll see like these homeless guys. drinking mouthwash. You're like, how bad.

has it got that you're just like. chugging Listerine like in an alley to. get drunk? Like that's I mean that's a. that's. >> what if it's a really good buzz? >> I mean I I guarantee it's a good buzz. >> Like and your breath's great. Can you. imagine a Listerine buzz? >> Gh. >> Imagine a Listerine buzz. >> I mean, sometimes I have tequila. I. don't drink anymore, but sometimes I. would have tequila and that felt like. mouthwash. You know, you have like a. shitty cheap tequila and you go, "Oh, I.

>> Do you know a large percentage of. tequila apparently is fake. It's not. made with agave.". >> Really? >> Yeah. There was a big scandal. >> See if you can find anything on that. >> But it still got people drunk. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I think the. scandal was that people were saying that. it was like real tequila. like lit leg. legit tequila made from agave. Yeah, >> but it wasn't. >> Yeah, it was just a. >> It's like [ __ ] some shitty alcohol. Some nonsense. >> They counts. It's tequila. >> I know. But I mean, I guess scammers. probably thought like if they were. scammers. So, who knows who's doing it. along the way. Maybe it's the.

manufacturer. Maybe it's the original. person. Who knows? But they didn't think. someone was going to check. >> Yeah. It's kind of strange. I I think. about all those kind of things. Like I. remember they were doing this big. campaign. They're like, "McDonald's uses. real beef now." I'm like, "What were. they using? Like what do you mean? Like if the. tequila company would now market like no. this is now real tequila. You'd be like. what were we drinking? This is a. proposed class action lawsuit filed in. the US District Court for the Eastern. District of New York. Goes on to allege. that both brands fail to meet the. regulatory requirements to label.

themselves as 100% agave in Mexico and. the United States even though they carry. that distinction on their labels. So. what are these brands? Click on that. link where it says those brands. Oh, Casamigos and Don Julio contain. significant amounts of non-aggave. alcohol despite being labeled as 100%. agave. Customers named the suit claimed. that they purchased the products under. the assumption that the tequilas were. made exclusively. from Blue Weber Agave and paid prices.

reflective of that premium designation. >> Somebody was cutting the product, son. Yeah, >> that's how it goes when no one's paying. attention. >> History repeating itself. >> over and over and over. >> Those are big ones. Those are like I. didn't expect it to be something I've. heard of. >> But here's the question. Who did it? Right? You got to follow that web to go, okay, where did that money come from? Is. it that guy? Is it like a a. manufacturer? Is it someone who's in the. plant? Is it someone? Are they skimping?

Are they ripping them off? Like what? >> Who did it? >> Who did it? You know, I mean, if you're. an [ __ ] and you're running the. distillery and you're like, "Fuck those. Don Julio people." We have to like and. you're like, "I know how to make it. better. I can make more money." And then. these skims we're going to need 100. grand for. It only costs 40. >> Greedy greedy. >> Y. >> Yeah. Who knows? Who knows? It's. probably a a tangled web of scumbags. that were using the company to make. money. >> When I first worked at Giggles Comedy. Club, the owner like we we didn't really.

have a green room. We're just kind of in. the back where all like the soda tubes. are going from the boxes of syrup and. all the bottles of alcoh back there. >> And uh he had one bottle of every kind. of like top shelf liquor, but he would. just pour shitty liquor in there like. with funnels, like totally against the. law, just like funneling like the. cheapest tequila he could get in like. the finest tequila bottle. And then when. people would people would constantly. bring it back like this tastes wrong. He. goes, "You saw me pour it from the. bottle." And they're like, "Yeah, I.

guess. I don't know like what but I. watched him do that so many times. >> That's hilarious. >> Yeah, cuz he could charge like this, you. know, crazy amount and he just get the. shittiest cheapest tequila from like. Costco or wherever the heck. >> That's so gross. >> I know. >> That's so many people do that all over. the world. >> There's a lot of that going on there. There was there was a great documentary. about that. It's called Sour Grapes and. it's all about these wine guys that got. duped. They were buying this wine that. was like Thomas Jefferson's wine. Like. some dude was making it. Some dude in.

Century City was like making the the the. labels, >> putting over the bottles, dirt on them. and [ __ ] Yeah, he was totally doing. that. And he was mixing a bunch of cheap. wine to try to come up with this flavor. >> That's so weird. >> Like it's always this was it a big wine. guy like. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, really? Oh, dude. He He. This is how he [ __ ] up. He ripped off. the Koch brothers. >> to like Yeah. And they had they bought. some old ass like Thomas Jefferson wine. and it wasn't real. And then they they.

also had some magnums from a company. that never made magnums during that year. during that era. And this actual wine. guy saw their seller and started what is. this? >> And he says that's a this and that. He. goes no no no they they don't do that. This is not from that. This is fake. And. he was like what? And so then. >> they have a lot of resources obviously. So they're like release the house. And. then they, you know, they. >> they get enough evidence that they can. raid this guy's house. And so when they. raid this guy's house, they find like a.

whole manufacturing thing. He's got dirt. and water. He's rubbing it on the. labels. He's like making the labels old. and [ __ ] He's reusing old labels from. wine that he had bought somewhere else. and recorking it and sealing it. Oh, total scumbag. >> And he sold millions of dollars worth of. like fagazy wine to all these dorks that. are like these dorks. >> Yeah. And they're all I spent this much. on this. Yeah. It has um an essence of. tannon. There's a a woody a woody.

aftertaste almost chocolate. Oh, I. tasted chocolate. I wish who caught him. was a sier. Like someone who was. actually like no this tastes like [ __ ]. And like I'd be like oh it's real. Like. there. >> there is one sier in that documentary. that these other guys were like sniffing. it going this is this is the real stuff. And the other guy gets it. He goes no. this is crap. What is this [ __ ] I love. that. And the but which is like a huge. insult to the other fellas like I don't. and they don't want to say they got. duped. No, no, no. This is the best the. best grapes during the best year. I have.

it. I have the grapes. >> Can't you taste the hint of Costco? It's. got a You don't taste the box on this. wine? >> You don't taste Trader Joe's. >> That's hilarious. What a weird thing. >> It's a weird thing, man. But it's a. fascinating documentary because it shows. you what that thing really is. It's like. this weird club that they all belong to. where they get real nerdy about a a. flavor that's not that good. It's not. that. >> you want the finest. So you believe. >> the best wine is not as nearly as good.

as Kool-Aid. >> That's far superior to the best wine. ever. >> Yeah. But it's not exclusive. You know, Kool-Aid. >> But it's like such a weird thing that. some of it is so expensive and so. revered that they have auctions for it. The autograph world is full of a bunch. of bull crap like that. Like if you. collect athletes autographs and stuff. I'm friends with the the guys at Icon. Autograph in San Diego or whatever. And. they're great guys. But like I'll send. them a photo of a thing and be like this. is selling at this like you know it, you.

know, hotel lobby. They have those, you. know, when you walk in it'll be like a. photo of Taylor Swift framed and it's. just like got her autograph on it. It's. selling for like $5,000 or whatever. And. I sent him a thing cuz I the item was so. unique that I was like this is pretty. special. It was a baseball autographed. by Joe Deaggio and Marilyn Monroe to. have both those names like on the. baseball. I was like this there's no way. this is at a silent auction right now. for like a thousand bucks. I sent it to. my autograph guy and he goes, "Dude,

there's like one of those in the world. and it sold at auction for like millions. or whatever." So this guy just somebody. like you like the guy you're describing. putting dirt on the thought he could. pull one over and probably did. I mean I. didn't go whistleblow or anything but. like. >> he definitely did. >> Someone just wrote Joe Deaggio on a. baseball and Marilyn Monroe and put it. in a fancy case and you know some. schmuck has that right now in his living. room telling everybody about this ball. he bought. >> This guy committed suicide a week after. this story went viral over the summer.

>> Oh my god. He admits to counterfeiting. over $350 million in gear after police. raid warehouses and then he kill. himself. The dealer says the scheme grew. to be an addiction. >> Wow. >> What did he uh. >> All sorts of fake autographs. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh my god. >> Certified stuff. Biggest names in. sports. All sorts of [ __ ]. >> So of course there's a lot of that. >> Oh dude. Tons of it. >> Yeah. >> People repacking things. >> Of course you're always going to have. that. >> That's wild. >> Yeah. It's just what I guess people's. riskreward is fascinating to me too.

Like you know about the Chanty Phillips. thing. >> What's that? >> He's a He was the head coach. He's a. Hall of Fame. >> Oh, this is the NBA thing. Hall of. Famer. >> The money scam. >> And then he's the coach of the Portland. Trailblazers. So, you have money coming. in. You're not desperate. And then. you're going to risk your entire. reputation. and you're going to ris risk. your entire uh you know bank account by. doing gambling and doing all this like. dumb [ __ ] I'm like why would like at. that point you think no more risks like.

like you're pretty good. Why why do. corruption? Why have like all this like. gambling nonsense? It makes no sense to. me. >> I get it if my friend does it who's. broke and it's like dude I had to like. pull some [ __ ] You know times are. tough. This guy's the head coach for the. Portland Trailblazers. What are you. doing? I think people get addicted to. just pulling things off. >> That's what that one was saying is that. this guy said he was like that's why. >> Yeah. Well, people are nuts, man. Like. the gambling addiction is a weird one, man. >> And I think some of those guys maybe. they get a bunch of losses and then they.

want to get it back by rigging a game. >> You know what I mean? >> But. >> they want to make it like so they. definitely are going to win and they. feel funny that it's like fun to get. over like you rigged a game. >> Tricked them. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. There's two baseball players for. the Cleveland Indians right now. They bring a video where he accidentally. struck people out and he's pissed. >> You get strike guys like [ __ ]. >> these two players. They'll never play. >> supposed to throw balls. >> Yeah. For $5,000 a pitch. Uh which is, you know, kind of chump change to guys. who make 30 million a year, you know?

Like that's not like that's good money. for me, but that's not good money for. these guys. And they're like supposed to. throw a ball at a certain time or walk a. player. Like they were doing these. different things and they caught them, you know, these guys. Oh, so the prop. bets thing is the weird one, right? >> Yeah. Well, and that's what makes it. weird that like draft kings and all. these things are such a big part of. sports now, >> right? Because there's you're just going. to have organized criminals that get. involved in that and exploit it. There's. a UFC problem right now. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. Yeah. A UFC fight. Um, so this was. a story a lot of uh the UFC has an.

organization, I don't know what. organization they use, maybe you could. find out, Jamie. Um, that monitors. unusual betting activity in any fight. So the moment there's any unusual. betting activity, they contact the UFC. The UFC contacts this fighter, says, "Hey, >> you're the favorite to win this fight, there's a very a lot of unusual betting. activity on you to lose. Like, are you. okay? Is everything fine? Are you. injured?" "No." "No, I'm fine. I'm going. to kill this [ __ ] guy." Okay. Has. anybody contacted you about this fight?

No. So he goes out, loses in the first. round, gets submitted, rear naked choke. Doesn't look good. Immediately the UFC. says, "We called the FBI.". >> So. >> good. >> Now, apparently there's an investigation. of many fights, >> right? >> And there's a web, it seems like, of. people that have contacted fighters and. said, "I will give you x amount of. dollars if you lose this fight.". >> Yeah. And a bunch of people have said no. to it and publicly talked about how they. said no to it, you know, good, really.

good fighters, and uh even went on to. lose the fight, you know, unfortunately. and and didn't get the money, but. >> we're open about it. Yeah. >> So, it's one like Patchy Mix, who was uh. he was Bellator champion, came over to. the UFC, and he said that somebody I. think he said somebody offered him. $70,000 or something like that to lose a. fight. Some something crazy. I might be. wrong if it was him that said that. number. It might have been someone else. But so they're offering dudes like a big.

pile of cash. >> to lose to a fighter that they might. have lose might lose to him anyway, right? >> You know, like it's probably a tight. matchup anyway, but if you definitely. lose, so what do you do? You don't fight. as hard. You you make mistakes. You do. something stupid. You know, you uh you. let them take your back, right? >> You get choked out. And if you're good. at defense, you might be able to, as. long as you're getting submitted, you. know, you're not probably not going to. get hurt that bad. And you'll be able to. make an extra 70 grand when you might be. getting 10,000 to fight, >> right? Now all of a sudden you got 80.

grand. >> Uh I agree with it obviously. I think. it's [ __ ] terrible and it's it's. >> Are you allowed to bet on yourself to. win? Is that a thing? Well, I know. fighters have in the past. UFC fighters right now are not capable. of betting uh on the UFC. I think uh. it's not just the fighters, but the. commentators, the coaches, referees, everybody. No one's supposed to be. betting on the UFC because there was.

another betting scandal. And so the. other betting scandal was there's this. guy who was a active MMA fighter and a. really good coach and he got accused of. using this Discord server and they were. running like a gambling Discord server. and a bunch of money came in on this. dude to lose in the first round. >> and he went out there and he lost in the. first round and the word was that he was. hurt and that it had been expressed to. these people bet against him because. he's going to lose in the first round. and a lot of people made money. So, this.

guy gets investigated. The UFC bans him. I don't know what the status of his case. is. Um, but they also banned the. fighters that were training out of that. gym. >> Um, I think some I don't know if this. guy see if this guy who just got in. trouble if he was connected to that gym. >> The gym uh was is James Krauss's gym. >> Yeah. Because I would be like fine with. if they want to bet to win. You're like, I love that. >> Right. I love that too. The thing is.

>> easy to trace. >> when you what you were talking about. like prop bets and stuff like that. Losing the first round, you could just. definitely lose in the first round and. everybody makes $100,000. >> You know what I mean? Like some people. are going to take that, >> right? >> Especially if a guy is like pretty good, but realistically he's not going to be a. world champion. You know, maybe you're. 32. Maybe you got a lot of [ __ ]. >> Maybe you're Mike Tyson fighting Jake. Paul. >> You might have alimony you have to pay. off. you have might have child support. you have to pay off. You're in debt and.

that's why you're fighting in the first. place and someone comes along and they. you're out of the hole now. You're going. to get $100,000 to throw and they're. just going to bet a ton of loot on you, >> right? >> And they're going to hope nobody. notices. But I guess now people are. noticing it. And you can kind of see if. someone's not fighting back. And that. was the thing about this fight. >> I got to see it obviously when I knew. the controversy. I didn't see it live. So, I didn't have fresh eyes, you know? I didn't see it live and go, "God, why. is that guy fighting off the choke so.

badly?". >> There's a bunch of NBA guys, some some. Instagram account. It's really good. He. found Excuse me. No, no, just dry mouth. Dry throat. >> Have a sip of water. >> I got nothing. >> Why you sip water? Yes. He was. >> We have coached by James at water. >> Say that again, Jim. >> He was previously coached by James. Cross. >> Okay. So this guy who allegedly through. this fight was also coached by this guy. who was involved in the betting scandal. >> So. >> that's why computers are good. >> like those kind of little things where.

you can find that like oh this is un. like computers help in that way for. sure. >> That's a tangled web if you're involved. with people that are making money. gambling and not on the square. So the. thing is if you're just gambling on the. square, if you just watch a fight like. Pereira versus Ankalv 2 and you say, "I. like Pereira to get that title back. I'm. gonna [ __ ] I'm gonna put my money. where my mouth is. I'm putting too large. too large on Poeton. Let's go." That. should that's totally fine. >> and fun. >> Yeah. But when it gets to you have a.

prelim fighter and he's only making 10. grand and someone offers him, you're. going to get choked in the first round. and he's like, "Okay, I got it. I got. it. I got it. And the opponent probably. doesn't even know. So, this guy has to. figure out a way to give this guy's. back, >> right? Oh, that's kind of funny. He's. like leading him. >> Yeah, you have to give it to him. You. have to give it to him. >> There's been fights like that. There's. been fixed fights. For sure. Has to be. >> Oh, for sure. >> Has to be. >> Especially in boxing. >> Oh, it's weird when you. >> because those boxers are their lives are.

so tough. I mean, >> well, they've always done that. throughout history. guys have taken. dives, you know, especially if you. weren't connected enough, you know, if. you were a guy that wasn't with a a big. time manager who had a big- time lawyer. and probably mob ties. >> Mob ties. Yeah, >> they all had mob ties. You had to have. mob ties. >> I'm going to lose a fight if the whole. mob's going to kill my wife or. something. >> Bro, you don't think Rocky Marciano had. mob ties? >> For sure. >> If you're the heavyweight champion of. the world and you're Italian, all the. mobsters want to be your friend. >> and you're a boxer. They love that.

>> Flatlining everybody. It's funny to find. out how many of these old guys didn't. even like the sports. They just liked. all the money part of it. >> Well, Marciano talked about it like. that. Like it was it's just my job. >> Yeah. >> But that guy was the freakiest training. person I've ever heard of in boxing. Like the freakiest training regimen. It. was crazy. Like part of what made. Marciano so good was that he never got. tired because he had this insane work. ethic and he lost one fight when he was. younger uh I think in the amateurs.

because he got tired and he decided. after that fight he was never going to. lose a fight ever because he got tired. So he just put himself through this. [ __ ] insane routine where he would. get up in the morning before any. training he would run 10 miles. He would. do his training. He would hit the heavy. bag for hours and then he would swim. miles in the lake after training. He. would spar a hundred rounds a week. He. would just get to the point where, you. know, we're talking about redlinining. And he did the same thing. He redlined. to the point where he couldn't do it. anymore. And then he retired undefeated. >> But does that red line, that kind of.

thing that he was doing, you can't do. forever. And I watched this video about. it the other day. I'm like, this is. bananas. Just to watch that guy's work. ethic and back when nobody had anything. You have no creatine. There's no. vitamins. >> You know what I think about when you say. the redlinining thing? And maybe it's. just because I'm influenced by his like. the videos he posts and the things he. does, but every time I know Michael. Chandler and like every time like I see. this guy like he's like, "Oh, you're in. Arizona. Like swing by the gym." And.

he's like throwing the thing again. Like. he's just always at this like in this. like he's I'm going to shoot a TV show. tomorrow, but I got to work out at like. he's always. >> so tremendous discipline. >> Full on. Yeah. Like never seen him going. I'm taking a month off or we're going to. the pool. That's why he's still elite at. 38. I believe he's 38 now, right? How old is. Michael Chandler? >> I believe he's 38. Um, but that's why. he's so elite. He's never gotten out of. shape. >> 39. 39. Cuz that guy, people don't even.

know about the wars that he got in with. Eddie Alvarez when they were at. Bellator. I met him. The greatest fights. in MMA history went unseen by a giant. chunk of MMA fans because they didn't. pay attention to Bellator. >> But this the Eddie Alvarez Michael. Chandler fights in Bellator were nuts. Really? >> I mean nut. Play a clip of it. >> I mean nuts. Like from the opening bell, two mad [ __ ] roosters just attacking.

each other. It is It's so wild. Were. those Bellator guys redlining cuz they. just wanted to get to UFC? Like they're. still climbing the ladder? They're still. in the hunt. >> Well, they were just these guys just. redlined their entire career. Eddie. Alvarez went on to become a UFC um uh. lightweight champion when he beat Hafael. Dos. Huge upset. Eddie Alvarez is a. [ __ ] beast. >> Um but these two guys from the opening. of the first [ __ ] seconds of the. fight. Look, this is the beginning of. the fight. Chandler's just throwing.

himself at him, just sprinting at him. drops him, bro. Drops him again. Look at. this. It's crazy. Alvarez survives. somehow and he fires back. Bro, these. fights are nuts. The fights I think they. had I know they definitely had two. I. don't think they had three, but in the. the two fights that they had together. were [ __ ] insane. I mean, the entire. pace of the fight was fought like this. >> He's awesome, dude. >> And they're really evenly matched. It. was a really good matchup.

>> Looks a little bigger than him. Well, Chandler's a [ __ ] tank, dude. >> Dude, Chandler's the best. >> And he's got crazy wrestler power from. the legs, you know? So, when he leaps at. you, like when he knocked out Dan. Hooker, he lunges at you like he's. shooting a double and throws a left hook. at the same time. When he he knocked out. Dan Hooker in his UFC debut, who was a. really respectable MMA fighter, a very. good fighter, but he just got caught. Find that one, Jamie. find um Michael. Chandler KO's Dan Hooker cuz this was.

his UFC debut. And again, Dan Hooker is. like an elite fighter, which is one of. the reasons why it was so impressive. And the fight starts out and Chandler. does the same [ __ ] This is his first. fight in the UFC. The same [ __ ] he did. in Bellator. He just charges forward. >> I love it. >> I mean, this is how he always fights. It's do or die. That's why this guy's. lost a ton of times, but he's still a. huge fan favorite. It's because, you. know, you're going to see this. I mean, he's just throwing. Yeah, for sure.

>> Oh, big. >> He's just so dangerous, man. Because. everything is 100%. >> has thrown that low kick three or four. times. >> Hasn't really landed itself. That won't hurt. >> Oh, that one hurt. That was just one, two. >> Here comes. >> And look AT THE IMMEDIATE OH, BIG. KNOCKDOWN FOR MICHAEL CHANDLER. BIG. RIGHT HAND. DAN'S HURT. >> OH MY GOD. >> It's over.

>> That's a rat, bro. >> And then he does a backflip off the top. of the cage. >> Bro, that's a freak, >> dude. Freak athlete. I met him. So, I. was doing a prank show for MTV called. Money from Strangers, which was kind of. like Impractical Jokers, but way darker. Like, we were like a lot edgier. Was. before money or before Impractical. Jokers. And so they'd always send me to. like MTV Movie Awards or any kind of. those things. And I was like, I don't. know, live in New York. They're going to. send a car. I get to go on a red carpet, whatever. I'll drink. It'll I'll I'll.

make it fun. And they happen to be. behind me. The Bellatory guys happen to. be the next guys in the red carpet line. And the way the red carpet works is no. one cares about us at all. They're just. waiting to get like Miley Cyrus or. Beyonce or whoever the hell it is. So. like we're basically the photos they're. taking are just something we're going to. save off the internet because no one. gives a [ __ ] They were like all Bellor. guys. So people at this movie awards. don't necessarily care. These guys are. behind me and they're like this guy's. fun cuz I'm making all these jokes and.

like goofing around and I was already. kind of like buzzed up. And so then that. Michael Chandler and these two other. like Bellator guys. Uh Brog the. Predator, you know he is. >> No, >> he was a Bellator guy too. Cleveland. guy. Big big guy. He's awesome too. But. anyways, these three guys. >> and they were like this is kind of dumb. And I was like yeah this shit's kind of. gay. I don't want to be here, you know. And then they were like, "Let's just go. drink." And so we just drank and met. people and hung out and they're like, "Want to get Subway?" And we got in a. car and got Subway and I just hung out. with these dudes all night and I've been. pals with them ever since. >> Oh, that was awesome. >> Yeah. But it's like I didn't really know.

what they did. I just kind of knew that. they were like fighter guys and so like. I thought they were in UFC at that time. and they weren't. They were in the. whatever was paying really well and. Bellator had a pretty good following for. a while. I mean it was doing really. well. There was some real elite fighters. out of Bellator and a lot of guys like. they came over to the UFC because they. became famous famous in Bellator like. Ben Ascrin he came over from from. Bellator. >> He actually did a stint at 1 FC before. he came to UFC eventually but there's a.

lot of guys that never came over you. know. >> unfortunately like Douglas Lima. Douglas. Lima at one point in time was one of the. best welterweights alive and you know he. was the Bellator champion. He's like the. only guy that's ever knocked out Michael. Venom Paige. Do they have like an MMA. Hall of Fame? >> Yes, there's a UFC Hall of Fame and I. think there's an MMA one, too. Maybe the. MMA awards. I don't know. I don't know. Sucks. >> There's a UFC Hall of Fame, though. Yeah, >> but that's UFC guys. >> I know. It sucks. I know. Um some guys,

they they wait too long in these other. organizations, unfortunately. >> And the reality of the sport is, you. know, there's a bunch of different. organizations you can compete for. And I. think if the PFL is paying you more. money, go to the PFL. Do what whatever. you want to do. >> But if you really want to be the world. champion, you have to be the UFC. champion. That's just how it is right. now. >> It's like major league. >> That's how it's like in boxing. If if. you're the undisputed champion, you have. all belts, then you're Terence Crawford.

But if you're like a WBA champion and. there's also a WBC champion and an IBF. champion, that shit's too confusing to. the average person. And for most people, the UFC is what for good or for bad, they're just just a I'm just saying. that's just how most people think of it. >> That's how I probably annoyed them that. night because I was like, "Oh, you guys. UFC guys." And they're like, "Uh, we're. Bellator.". >> Yeah. You don't go looking for cotton. swabs. You go buy Q-tips. You look for. Q-tips. That's what it is. You know, just watching pro football. You're. watching the [ __ ] NFL. Absolutely. And if you're so bored, you're watching.

the XFL. You start. >> Canadian football. >> You start going, I got to go to the gun. range or something. I got to clear my. head. >> Yeah. What what would happen to me? >> I got to do something different. >> But I feel like that's just for better. or for worse. It's just how it is. That's how it is in America. We don't. have a lot of attention span. And if. it's going to be elite fighting, it's. got to be there's like one organization. that we follow. Sorry. >> Yeah. >> And I follow them all. I follow. everything. I try to pay as much. attention to Muay Thai as I do to boxing. as I do to wrestling and jiu-jitsu.

tournaments. So, I try to pay attention. to everything just cuz I want to know. like who's coming up, who's good, what's. new, what different things are people. trying that they've never done before. >> Did you see Holly Holm did wrestling? >> Bro, she's a [ __ ] athlete. >> She's the best. >> LA is an athlete. After her fights, Mike. Wickl John used to like like she used to. stand on his hands and do a backflip. after all of her fights. >> It's amazing. >> See if you can find that. It's crazy. She would win and then he would do this. back. at a place to watch wrestling and. then there was something she could sign.

up for and she was like, "Fuck it. I'll. I'll do it.". >> LA and they were like, "Really?" Cuz. she's famous. So they were like, "We'll. we'll let you be part of it." She goes, "Sure." And she did. And she was just. like the second they said her name, everyone cheered. It was like not like a. huge grandiose plant thing. There was no. contract. There was no anything. She. just did it. It was like this here. She. text me about it. I go, "What? Like did. they go crazy?" And she's like, "No.". Like it was I mean like it was just fun. It was a fun thing. I thought why not? >> Yeah. That's the thing. Well, show that. again. Watch the best. Watch how they do. this.

>> Yeah. So cool. >> That was a thing they would do after all. our fights. >> [ __ ] back muscle, son. >> That's crazy. >> Yeah. What' she say? Oh, she said the. guy like her manager, whoever she asked. about it briefly was like he was like, "Well, what if you get hurt?" And and. her the this is great. She goes, "Yeah, but what if I win?" And I was like, "What a great response." And he was. like, "Fuck it. Let her do it." And so. she did it. And I was like, "That is the. coolest thing." That's why a mentality. multisport martial arts champion. You.

know, >> she's the best. >> She was a champion in kickboxing. >> You know, she had champion in boxing, women's boxing, in MMA, every She did. the full trifecta. >> Yeah, she's the best. >> She's kind of crazy. >> And she's a really nice lady, too. >> That's what I like about her. >> Yeah, she's cool. >> I don't know a lot of fighters. Those I. named all the fighters I know. Michael. Chandler and Holly Holm. >> That Holly Holm fight with Ronda Rousey. was nuts. That was in Australia and it. was a huge crowd like a massive arena, man. And when she landed that headkick. and you realize that Rhonda was out and.

then she's hammer fisting everywhere. It. just didn't even It was like when Mike. Tyson got beat. Remember when Mike. Tyson? Well, you were too young. But. when I was a kid, Doug, when Buster. Douglas beat Mike Tyson, I saw it. I. heard about it. I didn't watch it. I saw. a tape of it and I still thought he was. going to get up. >> You knew the outcome. >> I was like, he gets up. He doesn't lose. >> There's no way. There's no way. >> No, I remember that for sure because. Mike Tyson was larger than life. Like. and he was so like one of those. celebrities that like you knew.

everything he was doing. >> The stars shined really brightly back. then. There was like Michael Jackson. You knew Michael Jordan. You knew. Michael Jackson. You knew. >> and they would go out. >> Yeah. >> They would go to places and people. >> big deal. Yeah. Mike Tyson. I remember. being in the kingdom watching a baseball. game. It was the same night. I was a. little boy and they put on the screen. that Mike Tyson was uh disqualified for. biting Evander Holyfield's ear and the. whole stadium reacted like I mean like. they didn't interrupt a baseball game. but they put it up there cuz the news. was so large like it was a very big deal.

>> bro you bit him twice that was crazy I. watched the first fight today I watched. the first Evander Holyfield my. >> you watch it today. >> I just felt like watching it. >> I love that. >> I do that like when I'm in the gym I'll. pick like an old fight and I'll I'll put. it on and uh I put on that fight and I. was like, "Wow, that was a crazy fight.". >> I can't work out unless David Gogggins. is calling me a [ __ ] in my headset. That's all I listen to. >> You don't know me, son. >> Dude, it's the best. Like I lit every. time I'm I was at Equinox this morning. I had David Gogggins in my thing just.

going, "You're a piece of shit." You. know, >> you can do better, Jeff. You can be. bigger. >> Gogggins is the best. >> That's what I listen to. Or those kind. of like YouTube things where they. compile, you know, it's like just all. motivation stuff with music over it. You. you don't seem like a guy who needs. motivation. Do you just do it for fun? >> I like it. Yeah. And it keeps me in the. mindset. I always channel all of it back. to like standup comedy, you know, cuz. like I'm working towards something. I'm. in the hunt. I'm climbing. And so like. they could be talking about a battle in. war and I'm still like, "Yep, that's.

what I'm What's next? I'm going to Yeah. I'm climbing." You know, I'm still. hungry. >> Yeah. That's a fun time. It's a fun. thing to do. >> Yeah. you know, the fact that you get to. do it. >> when also like otherwise I just sleep. till noon or sleep till 1, you know, but. like if I have that I'm like, "No, I got. to get up and write or I got to get up. and you know, >> here's the question. You you're doing. this obviously and you're doing this for. the love of the thing." And you said. that if you didn't need money and you. didn't even get paid money, you would. still do it. And I think the same way I. would do it, too.

>> But what do you think about the idea of. universal basic income? because this is. something that is being discussed with. automation and with AI. And we were. having a conversation about the other. day with Elon and he was saying that he. thinks that AI can generate so much. productivity that you could have. universal high income. And then I went, wait, okay, am I are we married to this. idea that everything that you do in life. you have to be doing just for money?

Because that's what it is now. If you're. if you're a professional, you're doing. it for money. If you're a professional. podcaster, if you're a race car driver, you're doing it for money, right? >> Why are are we married to that? And if. you didn't need money and no one needed. money, would you just find a thing you. love to do? And would we be able to. rewire our brains and still have some. feeling of value and of uh identity and. without being attached to an occupation?

Like, isn't it possible that we've just. tricked ourselves into thinking that the. only way to live is to live in a way. where everything you're doing, you're. doing is for money. And then if it's just everybody does. their best at things and enough money is. generated so that basically everybody. has like what he was saying, a universal. high income, what does that mean? Like. is that a feasible thing? Like what what. is AI going to do with production? What. is AI going to do with automation,

resource extraction? How much money is. going to be generated that you're going. to be able to literally have the entire. population of the country under. universal high income? Is that even. possible? And if it is, what happens to. people's desire? What happens to their. dreams? What do they just find a thing. like you and I have and do that and not. care about money and really be into the. thing? Can't that be taught? If it's. taught to you, if you figured it out and. I figured it out, if people have figured. it out, they figured out like find a.

thing you love and you're never going to. work again because you're going to love. doing it. Whether it's building cars or. painting or carpentry, if you really. [ __ ] love doing it, you do it because. you love it. Wouldn't that be a better. way to live? I know. I know you can't do. it. I know. I know. No, no, no, no. I. know. No, no. It wouldn't work. There's. too much money in the stock market. I. get it. I get it. It wouldn't work. But. as a thought experiment, wouldn't that. be a way that's possible for people to. live? If it's possible for you to live. that way, if it's possible for me to.

live that way, if it's possible to find. enough people that are willing to do and. love to do all the things that we need. to keep a society running, I think the. point of life in my opinion is is. meaning, you know, so you associate. whatever. that means to you, right? So like a lot. of people find meaning in being a mom or. a dad that gives them enough that gives. they they they have that meaning or they. have a they have a hammer to hold on to.

like that like they they need that. meaning right. >> I need comedy like that's why when my. brain broke during co is because I. didn't have comedy. I didn't have a. outlet. >> How long did you go without doing any. comedy? >> I mean realistically I only went a few. days cuz I was doing like zooms and I. was doing like underground things for. rich guys. I like I was the first comic. Me and Brad Williams were the first. comics to go work in a comedy club with. the new co restrictions. We were the. because they they knew if they called me. or Brad, we'd say yes. >> Like like I like Keith Stubs called me. from Salt Lake and goes, "We're thinking.

about doing a show with all the. restrictions and just see if the if the. government shuts us down. Would you be. willing to come?" And I was like, "Yes.". I didn't even talk about price. I just. go, "Yes." Like I because I need it. Now, why do I need it? Because that's. where I personally find my meaning. Now, if I maybe was at home and going, man, I'm getting a lot more time with my kids. and I'm getting a lot more time with my. wife and like things are pretty. productive around here. That's where I. would have put my meaning, you know? I. think like and it's just where we put.

it. It's where we kind of put it. And I. think so a lot of people. find a lot of value in their jobs that. make them the money, but that's that. gives them something to do. Don't you. think? >> Yes, I I do think that. But what you're. saying about so if you just finding a. meaning what you're saying about finding. meaning in having a family or finding me. yes for sure but also I think the human. mind needs activities. >> right. >> I don't think it's just.

raising children only I think you should. probably have things that you love to do. as well. >> just for your own sanity. >> but if you didn't have to worry about. money you'd still be involved in this. pursuit of standup comedy cuz you love. it. >> All the stuff that people do just for. money, like the guy who does the [ __ ]. septic tanks, that guy's not having a. good time. He's smelling other people's. [ __ ] all day. He's pumping out other. people's [ __ ] all day. That can't be. fun, right? We need them, right? We need. them until the robots come and then you. don't need him anymore. So, this is the.

point. Like, what does that guy do to. find some sort of meaning? He's probably. not finding meaning in pulling [ __ ] out. of people's ground. He's probably would. like to do something different. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I. mean, >> I'm so naive that I'm like, "No, that. guy should be proud of himself." Like, like, I'm really I look at plumbers like. heroes. Like, I'm like, "Dude, the guy. that like fixed the electrical in my. house, I'm like, I love you, dude. Like, whatever I can pay you, >> bro. I had a septic problem at my house. once in one of my houses in California. when I first moved there." And it was so.

nasty. When uh I would flush the toilet, the bathtub would fill up and I was. like, "What is this?". >> Those are linked. Yeah. >> Well, what it was was the septic system. The There was a pump. I was living on a. hill and the pump would pump it up the. hill the poop water and then the pump. broke and so they ought to get in there. >> and get the pump out in the poop water. put a new and start. >> and that guy's my hero. >> like that guy we need that guy. >> that's a Bud Light commercial.

>> that's why I like cops and like what you. were saying earlier but the military the. nurses like. >> they're going to send a robot to fix. your poop pump. >> the robots do it a robot's going to do. it and it's going to do it perfectly. with AI and you're not going to need a. person to get covered in [ __ ] water. Okay? >> And that guy's going to get a lot of. money just to sit at home. But then what. does he do, >> right? >> That's the thing like cuz I think a lot. of it's going to happen really quickly. This is something that Andrew Yang was. uh talking about years ago and it was. sort of I agree agreed with him, but it.

was a little abstract then. And now this. was way back was that 2020 when Andrew. Yang was running for president? >> I've never heard of Andrew Yang. >> You don't know? Mm. >> What's that? >> Was it 2016? I. >> think so. >> It might have been 2016. >> You never heard of Adrian? >> Um, brilliant guy and had a very good. >> Sorry, >> 2020. Um, he had a brilliation. and that one day automation is going to.

remove a lot of jobs and including um. drivers, right? Like you're seeing it. with these Weeos, these. So there's that. is like that's the fir that's the first. sounds that's the first shot fired. across the bow of a crazy war where the. robots are going to take all our jobs. because that is now you have these Tesla. trucks that are automated and they can. you know like my car my Tesla I just. press a button it it does all the.

driving does everything I don't have to. do [ __ ] I can literally just sit there. with my hands in the wheel and barely. pay attention if I wanted to. I don't do. it. >> I never do it either. I have it and I. don't do it. >> Yeah, it's it's nuts. So, that's going. to be the future and there's going to be. no driving jobs and Okay. And then what. about everything else? Well, everything. else manufacturing is it's out the. window. Robots are going to do it 24. hours a day. They're going to be more. efficient. No unions, no healthcare, no. need for nothing. >> They're never going to [ __ ] up. Everything's going to be categorized. They have sets these these um mining.

operations in China where everything's. automated. There's no people working at. all. The trucks are driving. They're. getting recharged. They're [ __ ]. picking up the coal. They're moving the. coal. They're bringing it somewhere. else. It's all automated. It's bananas, man. So, that's just a massive eraser. erasing of jobs. They're just going to. go away. >> Well, the.com did that. >> Yeah, but I think this is way bigger, dude. I think this is way bigger. I. think this happens. And first, everybody's like, "Oh, this sucks." And.

then it's like, "Oh my god, this is it's. not stopping. It's not stopping. It's. taking over everything. It's going to be. all jobs. There's going to be no more. need for lawyers, no more accountants, no more. coders. Like, all that stuff's going to. be done with AI. It's going to get so. weird if you're going to college right. now because you could be going to. college for something that's absolutely. obsolete in three years. >> Sure. >> Yeah. Well, but so. I get that problem, but there someone's. introducing an idea that they just give.

money to people for free so they don't. because of this. Well, here's the thing. If that becomes something that controls. everything, which is really ultimately. what it's probably going to do, controls. all of our power grid, all of our waste. management resources, everything. It's. going to control everything. >> It's going to generate insane amounts of. wealth. But the question is like how does it. even get distributed? How does that part. how does that work? Who's got the money.

>> if you're just giving people money and. then then they what they. >> everyone's a trust fund kid in a way. You know, they don't do anything. They. just sit around and eat. >> And what do you what do you get people. involved with to occupy their time? You. know, do you encourage them to join. religious groups? Do you get them to be. involved in games? Do we try to give. people meaning or we are we all just. going to sit around and wait for the. robots to just take over and we're going. to be the last civilization of real. people 100 years from now they're going. to be like I think I want to do what the.

robots do and people like what you know. in the old times you know people would. actually have to do and then maybe. there'd be like a movement of that you. know dude the Terminator was accurate. >> oddly accurate. remember you used you remember the first. time you saw that movie like this will. never happen. >> I'll tell you a funny story about that. Terminator. I uh I was on mushrooms with. my buddy Randy and he forgot that he. who's had a long-distance girlfriend. He. forgot that he was going to call her. So, we just ate, you know, four grams of.

mushrooms like a big like we just. crushed them, right? It was co, you. know, and uh we had nowhere to be is the. point. So, we just we're going full. journey, you know, we're going to do a. bunch and uh we eat them. We're sitting. there and then he he goes, "All right, I. forgot I was going to call Rachel." And. I'm like, "All right." But it starts to. kick in a little bit. He left Terminator. on and then his gay roommate is like on. a first date in the kitchen. So there's. two like cute guys like flirting with. each other and one one of them barely.

knows me and the other one doesn't know. anybody in the apartment. And I'm just. sitting there watching Terminator and. like he can't be killed. You know, Terminator is like the bullets are just. going through him and then the metal. just kind of starts forming again. And. I'm just sitting there and I don't know. if I was there for 20 minutes. I don't. know if I was there for seven hours and. I'm just freaking the [ __ ] out going, "God damn, he can't kill these. Terminators." And these gay guys keep. looking at me and I don't know what Ry's. doing. I thought he just abandoned me. forever. I had like I can't even watch. Terminator the same anymore. Luckily, he.

came down and goes, "All right, let's go. to the roof." And I was like, "Thank God. you're here." And I went up there and. talked about it all, but like I was. freaking the [ __ ] out. >> How long was he on the phone for? >> Don't know. I'm gonna guess 15, 20. minutes, >> but it seemed forever. >> Oh, it seems so long. And I'm just. sitting there overthinking everything. And then also the Terminator like just. seemed like so pointless. I'm like, why? You can't kill it. Just just surrender. You know, you can't shoot through this. thing. >> Well, didn't it come back eventually and. become a good guy in the later movies? >> I don't know which version of the. Terminator I was watching. Like if it. was T2 or T3 or whatever, but it was.

>> How many have there been? >> I don't know. How many? >> A lot. >> Furiouses or Terminators? >> Well, Fast and Furious. >> Fast and Furious didn't also become a TV. show. I don't think yet. >> I just saw the new Predator and it. [ __ ] rules. >> Terminator became a TV show. >> Yeah. >> When? >> Uh, no. >> Really? >> Did you see the New Predator? >> The Sarah Connor Chronicles. >> No, I haven't seen the New Predator. >> Dude, it rules. >> When is this? >> 2008. >> 2008. >> Y. >> Huh.

>> I didn't watch it. That looks. ridiculous. still was a thing. They made. lot they went down the rabbit hole with. Terminator. But there's a bunch probably. like six movies now. >> I think I was watching like T2 or T3. >> Terminator. Terminator 2, Terminator 3, Terminator Salvation. >> All these six of them. >> You know, the last ones that just just. try to ring that towel out and get a. couple more drops of blood. >> You ever seen the leprechaun movies? >> Yes. >> Dude, after a while they're just like, uh, leprechaun goes to space. Leprechaun. in the hood. Like it was just literally.

put the leprechaun in some setting. >> It's funny that that one caught, you. know, like some things catch and they. become like cult classics. The. leprechaun movies were called classics. >> Very good. >> Yeah. And the Troll movie. You ever see. the Troll movie? >> I saw Troll 2, which was like the worst. film that's ever been made. Have you. seen that? >> Which one's that? >> There's no Troll One. They just made. Troll 2. It's so bad. It's phenomenal. Like it's absolutely the best the best. watch. If you watch Troll 2, you'll. watch the first scene or whatever and. you'll go, "Oh, he's the worst actor. I've ever seen in my life." And then the.

next person will come in the scene, you. go, "Oh no, she's the worst actor." And. it just keeps going. Everyone is worse. than the next person. >> Oh god. So bad. >> I think they remade Troll 2 and it's. coming out on Netflix in a couple weeks. >> You're kidding. >> I just Googled Troll 2 and there's a. trailer for a movie coming out the. >> They made a documentary about it called. Best Worst Movie. >> Oh, no. >> And Oh, you're kidding. No, this is. different. >> Yeah, I know. That's a pretty awesome. troll, too. I don't know what the [ __ ]. it came from today. >> Yeah, troll have a big dick in there. Heard that. >> That's his tail or something. Yeah,

>> he's got a tail. >> It is weird that he doesn't have a dick, though. >> Well, it's like, >> why does he conveniently have like. animal skins over his dick? >> 1990 was when the other one came out. >> If he's that gross, I would imagine he. wouldn't would be totally comfortable. being naked. >> Just who cares? Yeah, >> you're not modest. You know, why are you. going to cover your giant dick? Your. giant bulletproof show off while you. kill people. >> Swinging while you're stomping on. people. The last thing they do is see. that helmet dropping down. >> That's why you lost your house. Look at. the size of my [ __ ]. >> Yeah, this is ridiculous. Why would he. be vain? Or why would he be modest?

>> You know what's supposed to be really. good? Looks really good. Is that new uh. um Frankenstein on Netflix? >> Oh, yeah. The GMO Dtoro. >> I haven't seen that. But you don't like. the Predator movies? >> They're good. >> Oh, >> I liked uh the Prey one. The pretty. good. >> That was a good one. Fun, >> you know, the Command. >> A lot of Indians dying in that, you. know. >> Yeah, it was kind of crazy. That one. felt weird. This one, I don't want to. spoil anything, but they definitely. stray from the rules of being a. predator, but it's so good.

>> Really? It's really good. >> It's really good. Yeah, I loved it. >> Oh, it's the one where the Is she a. robot? >> She's Yeah, a robot. Which also makes it. more realistic that she's so like able. to do everything. Anytime I would start. to feel sexist, like, oh my gosh, they. did this like girl power thing. You're. like, no, she's just a robot they made. look like a woman. So, it's not like you. have to feel like it's not, you know, whatever. >> So, this is Predators getting [ __ ] up. here. >> Uh, this So, it's based off this one. runt predator.

>> who's on that's why he looks kind of. weird and [ __ ]. >> Don't spoil it. >> No, that's the that's the Yeah, I didn't. spoil anything, but he's like a little. runt. >> Oh, >> and so that's why he's out to prove. himself like because he's smaller than. all of them. He's missing a fang. He. looks a little weird, but that's because. he's supposed to look weird. >> cuz a lot of people are like, "This this. Predator looks stupid.". >> Damn. 85% of Rotten Tomatoes. That's. interesting. 93% like this movie. No. [ __ ]. >> I loved it, dude. >> I like when they can do that with a. movie. You know, you think like, "Oh, what is this going to be?" They flip it.

on its head. That's. >> how I felt. Oh, >> and every time there would be a thing. where I'd start to criticize it, like. I'd be like, "This feels like Mortal. Kombat." And then in my mind I'd go, "Jeff, you love Mortal Kombat." And I. was like, "All right." And then like the. next part be like, "This is kind of Star. Wars." I'm like, but I love Star Wars. So, like I kept like coaching myself and. then after a while I was like, "This. movie is really good.". >> Yeah. You got to just enjoy things. Yeah. That's what I tell people when I. play AI music for him. >> Like, just enjoy it. >> Just forget about the fact the robots. are taking over. This is great music. >> This is a pattern of every famous person. I know. >> What' you say, Jamie? >> Great is tough. But.

>> which one's tough? >> Great. Great is a weird word. >> Amazing. How about that? >> It's very good. >> That What Up gangster is amazing. You. know it is. I just I've I've gone down. those rabbit holes, too. Watching. >> cover songs, though. Like my favorite. cover song and finding different bands. doing good versions of it. They're real. They're real. >> Listen, the real bands are better for. sure cuz it's a real band. So, it's a. real person. But I love listening to AI. music. >> I know there's one going viral. >> I've never even heard of this. >> There's It's not officially number one.

That's like a weird designation, but. there's a a song that's number one on. the country digital sales chart by a. completely AI band. >> Well, DJs DJs kind of did that. >> Too many listeners a month. >> DJs were kind of like the first version. of that. Like they're putting in their. robot and then like making the songs and. sampling and stuff. So, this is just I. mean it's not that far deviating. >> This is way deviating. This is you could. change the kind of song like you could. have it like a little Charlie Crockett, a little Elvis Presley. You could mix. it. They were like.

>> they're essentially drawing from all the. songs that have ever been made. So all. the best sounds that anybody's ever. sung. >> Has to be good. >> It's amazing. It's so good. >> It has to be the way you just described. it. It has all the music. >> We'll wrap this up, Jeff, and we'll wrap. this up and I'll play you a little What. up, gangster. >> We don't need the audience at home to. hear this, but you need to hear this. >> We'll have to edit out anyway. >> Every so many successful people I know. are really like big music heads. Oh, music is a drug, man. Yeah, it's a.

marvelous drug that inspires you, makes. you feel better, makes you move around. >> At Mothership, you guys are always. playing good music up in that green. room. And I'm always like, "What is. this?" Like, every single time I think. I'm in that green room, I'm always. going, "What's this one?". >> Tony's got a bunch. Well, everybody. contributes. Everybody when they find a. cool song, we'll bring it into the green. room and then we'll add it to the We got. a The playlist on Spotify is like 34. hours or something now. >> G. >> Yeah, it's crazy. You just keep adding. cool songs. >> It's perfect. Uh Jeff D anything uh. website, Instagram, Twitter?

>> Uh I just launched a podcast. >> Oh, >> it's called Die Hard. >> I like that. >> Pretty good. Yeah. >> D. Hard. >> Okay. >> Once a week comes out every week. You. can watch it on YouTube or wherever you. listen to podcast. It's on everything. >> I like the name. >> Yeah. And then um. >> at first I didn't. >> because of you I made it for everyone, you know, like I I had it behind a thing. on a Patreon and like nah, don't do. that. I'm growing. >> Yeah. It just it won't grow. That's the. problem. Like you get some money for. like a complete lack of.

>> Yeah. I'd rather everyone hear it. And. uh and then also we we'll start doing a. thing where it's like once a week we'll. do the uh you know a face to face where. I have like an interview with somebody. that I like and and sit down and and do. like a proper uh podcast. Beautiful. >> Uh but yeah, and then jeffd.com to find. all my tour dates. >> and uh I'll see you tonight. >> Yes, sir. >> Yes, sir. All right. Let's. >> Thanks for having me, brother. >> All right. Here's the music.