Joe Rogan Experience #2391 - Duncan Trussell

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY. NIGHT. All day. >> Hello, Duncan. >> Hello, Joe. >> Hello, >> father. Father. >> Hello, Father Rogan. >> Um, are we allowed to do this? >> What? >> This religion you can kind of goof on a. little bit. >> Catholicism. Yeah.

>> Uh. >> they get testy. >> I don't you know having now gone to a. more than a few Catholic masses which. are beautiful and hung out with. Catholics who are awesome. I've really. had to reconfigure everything I used to. think about it because they're just. really sweet. Had a long conversation. with a priest. Brilliant dude. totally like. non-judgmental, kind of intellectual, you know, philosophical. Like right away.

I'm like, "Oh, you should I should have. this guy on my podcast.". >> Interesting. >> Yeah. It wasn't It's not what it's, you. know, I feel like. >> the Christianity that most people are. angry at is not even Christianity. It's. >> You know what I think it's like? >> What? >> Like saying that you're a liberal person. cuz I'm pretty liberal and you're pretty. liberal. >> Yeah. in the greater spectrum, but then. you get lumped in with Antifa. >> That's. >> Then you get lumped in with, you know, whatever crazy LGBT issue of the day.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, and even Antifa. doesn't want to be called liberal. Did. you know that? >> What do they know? >> Well, Antifa is anti- capitalist, and. that is not liberal. So, there's a there. that's the problem is like the terms are. really muddy right now. So, when you're. looking at like Portland, um the the. protesters in Portland. >> Yeah. What exactly is going on in. Portland? I'm trying not to pay. attention. >> Oh, well, what's happened is. >> I know they've they brought in the.

National Guard. Is that happening? Well, they tried to and they got. >> No, I think they have now. I think. they're there. So, what's happened is. there in front of the ICE facility, there are ongoing protests at night. Now. it's I I watch these streams and I've. been watching. a selfp profofessed. fascist named Carlin who drinks and and. and basically roasts these live streams,

but weirdly she like well she she has. apparently embedded herself with Antifa. before and so it's such a funny stream. cuz like. >> so They tolerate her. >> Oh, no. Not anymore. She like No, no, no, no. She's like I mean, I I don't. know if she's trolling or not, but on. her stream, she's like, "I am a fascist, >> right?". >> So, she's a proudly proclaiming she's a. fascist. I don't know how much of that. is trolling, how much of it is real, but. conservatives who are drawn to her. stream will say things like, "These.

people are funded by George Soros." And. it's the funniest thing cuz she gets so. mad and she's like, "GET OFF [ __ ] FOX. NEWS. STOP WATCHING THAT [ __ ] IT'S ALL. WRONG. Do these people look funded? Do. these people look like they have money? They're not funded. It's it's so and and. I guess her bigger point is by saying. these are funded agitators and not. saying what they actually are, which is. anti- capitalist revolutionaries, you.

dilute what's really happening. Because. what's really happening according to her. and I think a a fair amount of people is. that the economy is so [ __ ] The. middle class is diminishing so much. The. cost of living is so high that this is. the tilled the perfect soil you need if. you wanted communism to grow anywhere. because you're some kid. You've been. like glued to Reddit or Tik Tok. You've. been getting your [ __ ] amydala jerked.

off on by the devil. You're you're just. filled with like unease. You've watched. assassinations, attempted. assassinations, the banking crisis, all. of it. And it's like then you like some. Marxist theorist. starts telling you a little bit about. like. >> dismantling capitalism. >> You got it. Yeah. And you know, >> I don't know, man. Back when I was in. liberal arts school, if [ __ ] was the way. it was and some especially if it was a.

like some hot goth girl started talking. to me a little bit about dismantling. capitalism, I think I WOULD BE LIKE, "YEAH, let's dismantle." But that so. that's. what you're seeing there. Uh the the. breakdown of it is that. the. Democrats and Republicans what they have. in common is they believe in private. property and they they believe the power. of the state should be used to protect. private property. And so.

anti- capitalists, communists, they would they think that that's just. [ __ ] up. essent the breakdown of it as. far as I could tell. Sorry all the. communists out there. I'm going to ruin. Marxism. Just I'm saying I don't it's. very complex, you know, but from what I. understand the idea is this. You have a. bunch of money. You buy a factory. You. hire someone to run the factory. You get. a bunch of workers to go into the. factory. The workers are the ones who.

are making money for you. They're the. ones who are skilled. You just knew what. number to call. Got yourself a factory. got yourself managers for the factory, you are now going to take a huge cut of. the profit and the workers are not going. to get very much at all. And Karl Marx, as I understand it, was saying that's. [ __ ] Like all you do is buy an. apartment,

keep it keep it sort of painted in. between tenants and sit back and collect. money. Why? just cuz you add some money. And then when you look at the way money. flows uphill, you see this creates a. perfect situation for a a world of. renters, a world of workers, a world of. people getting paid minimum wage while. the the person who owns the means of. production gets the most money. And so. this is a growing sentiment in the world.

right now, >> right? And and honestly, it's like. you're working two [ __ ] jobs. You're. getting paid minimum wage. You know what. how much the CEOs are making. >> Or how about the people that came into. this country because they were told that. the borders were open. They established. a life here for four years, >> 20 years. >> Or how about the most recent ones even. and then all of a sudden you're getting. hunted down. >> Yeah. Hunted [ __ ] hunted down. Now. this and let's forget. Let's just see.

>> Then wouldn't that start this idea as. well? Wouldn't that feed into the idea? >> Well, yeah. >> Dissolving the state. >> Absolutely. You're you're watching this. [ __ ] you know, and and and you're. you're high as a kite. You're watching. this stuff and let's just say you this. appeals to a lot of different people, by. the way. Let's just say you're the. garden variety infowars person. You've. been listening to Alex Jones, >> right? you've read Behold a Pale Horse. or you have any kind of connection to.

conspiracy prognostications. which all say at some point the the. there's going to be martial law troops. in the streets. >> and you're seeing this play out. And so. my god and and even worse imagine you're. in the [ __ ] military and you actually. join the military. You're one of those. people. September 11th happens, you're. like, I'm going to defend this country. and suddenly you're in a bus going to. Portland,

you know what I mean? Like, I don't. think they want to be there. If I had to. guess, it's got to be a weird feeling to. be in your own country with like. militaryra weaponry. looking at people in duck costumes. Yeah, it's a very blunt instrument to. deal with a very complex problem. >> And and first of all, it's the way let's. just talk about the the immigration. thing. The way it looks is horrific. It.

looks. >> it when you're are just arresting people. in front of their kids and just normal. regular people that have been here for. 20 years. >> that everybody who has a heart can't get. along with that. >> No. Everybody who has a heart sees that. and goes, "That can't be right. That. can't be right. That can't be the only. way to do this, >> right?". >> Because you have to think, look, yeah, we have to have a border. Yes, it should. have been secure. Yes, they should make. sure you know who everybody is before. they get in. >> But when people been here for 20 years,

like come on, man. That's crazy. like. >> let's find a way if they've been. productive members of society for 20. years, no criminal record, they worked. the entire time, they paid taxes, >> find them a pathway to citizenship, find. a way where you can do this thing that. you want to do, which is keep terrorists. and cartel members from getting across. the border with drugs that kill a. 100,000 people a year, okay? But also. have a [ __ ] heart because if you.

don't, you're not going to get anybody. on your side if you're doing this stuff. publicly. Throwing women to the ground, handcuffing people just for. >> existing on the wrong side of the dirt. Not a criminal. Not The only crime they. ever committed was coming over here as a. kid. >> Yeah. >> They probably didn't even know what the. [ __ ] was going on. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You know, a lot of kids got snuck across. when they were already born in Mexico. and they've grown up their entire life. in America. They can't even speak. Spanish. >> Yeah. and they could get sent back. >> That's dude, I mean that's it. You're.

you're describing exactly the the. reality and there just isn't. >> no one gets on board with that, man. No. one with a heart. >> Well, no. I mean, the only way you can. get on board with it is you have to. essentially go like pure Mchavelian. The. you know the argu here's the argument. and the way I just gave an argument for. Marxism, which I am not a Marxist. Uh, I'll give I heard a great interview with. the guy running ICE on NPR, which I.

thought was wild NPR had him on and they. gave him a fair interview. I figured. they would be all up his ass. So, his. defense of the Mavelian tactics that are. being employed right now is that he. apparently has worked as some kind of. border agent for 20 years. He says, you. could hear it in his voice, man. It. [ __ ] him up. He's like, "You know, I've seen the back of. trucks filled with dead bodies, >> you know what I mean, with children in. there who died, no oxygen. I' I've been.

in I've seen these these horrors that. have come from the uh open border and. and how awful it is. If we give any semblance of compassion. or mercy for the people who've been here. for 20 years, for the people with kids, the kids who any any any. loophole that we convey. is going to produce more people trying. to come over the border and many of. those people are going to get killed.

They're going to, you know, drown. There. there will be many deaths because of. this. Not to mention the drug smuggling. and all that stuff. And so every time. the NPR reporter would push back with. the human rights compassion angle, his. take is, yeah, but which which do we. pick? which do we choose creating some. way for people to stay in the United. States who came here as kids and do the. nuance compassionate thing but it gives. the impression to the rest of the world.

that we're doing that and that gets. x amount of people killed that that many. people die. That was his take on it, which is why they're doing it. >> They're still gonna have human. trafficking and if you've got a very. closed border and you give amnesty, they're going to let they're going to. figure out a way to get people in. >> That was people going to die doing it. >> That's his argument. And and you know. that what you when he was talking about. like all the awful [ __ ] he's seen and. you hear it in his voice.

>> Yeah. you're like, "Okay, maybe I don't. completely agree with your point of. view, but I can understand. where you're coming from there." And yet. when you see this in practice, you know, when you when you when it's not an NPR. interview and you see the videos you've. been seeing and everyone else has been. seeing, then you realize like there's. okay, sure, but there must be a a way to. do this that doesn't involve ripping.

parents out of their communities, away. from their children, that doesn't. involve like actually removing people. who've been contributing to society, to. American. from American society. Sending people to. other countries when they can't even. speak the language. >> You know what I mean? So, >> no, no one with a heart is going to go. along with that. >> No. >> And no one I did not I did not ever. anticipate seeing that on TV on a. regular basis. >> Me either, man. Me either. It's shock. It's. >> I really thought they were just going to.

go after the criminals. I really thought. there was enough gang members and enough. people MS-13 members and whatever they. were looking for that that that they're. wanted. They would go after those guys. >> Dude, I I you know, >> that's what I thought, right? But how. many gang members have they actually. arrested? >> No idea. No idea. But you you see how. you know and I hate using this word. because the word is getting thrown. around so much and it's a stupid Well, you instead say that word, I'll say. authoritarianism. >> Yeah. You see how how authoritarianism.

when it begins to emerge. um it's not like it's like. non-consensual. You see how it slowly slowly creeps in. and how there's a great many people. directly impacted by. um people who have u you crossed the. border without using the right protocol. and in a horrific way. And and there are.

gangs that have been in apartment. complexes there. There's people who've. seen those videos, too, >> right? >> And they're like, "Fuck yeah." Yeah. [ __ ] And also, a lot of people who got. citizenship the regular way, went. through [ __ ] hell to get citizenship. here. They're also like, "Fuck them. They're cutting in line. These. [ __ ] They're gumming up the. system. They're making it so that we who. are following the rules not only it's. taking us longer but also now we have to.

deal with ICE too. So those people are. pissed. So there is a contingent of. people uh who maybe feel the same thing. all of us are feeling but also are like. but you know what's worse you know I I. like I'm you know. >> this is how I think the the only way to. do it would be where you could get. everyone on your side. Borders are. closed and we're going to find out who's. committed felonies. who out of the.

people that are illegal that have. committed felonies and if you've. committed x amount of felonies, you have. you have to leave the country. >> Yeah. >> Right. If you've been robbing people for. the last 10 years and you're an illegal, you have to leave the country, right? That makes sense. >> Yeah. But if you've been here for 25. years, you have a family, your kids go. to school here, you speak the language, >> you're just illegal, but you're a. contributing member to the community. that up until now has been protected.

This is crazy to ask lower income and. and middle inome people who are, you. know, kind of getting by and then all of. a sudden you're about to ship them to a. country where they've never been. They. haven't been since they were four. >> Yeah. and you're going to you're going. to pull up their family and pull up and. they've been in the community like that. that that shows no heart and that's the. problem. Like you're not going to get. any reasonable people to want to go. along with that. Any kind person would. look at that and go there's this can't.

be the only way to do this. >> Damn right. But but you see once. authoritarianism starts creeping in and. it makes some inroads which it's. definitely making right now man. It's. definitely making right now. And and you. know, I think one thing both of us have. in common is really good at like. thinking from the other perspective, like I can put myself fully into the. mind of like a super paranoid person who. lives in a city that's all [ __ ] up and. who's like, "Yeah,

>> it's like remember that awesome show. where it's like one of those vengeance. shows where that that this dad his. family gets [ __ ] up by gang members. and then he just goes and start shooting. people. You Charles Bronson. >> Oh yeah. Death wish. >> Death wish. Yeah. >> Right. So there's a lot of people who. are in death wish mode right now. And. they're just like, "Fuck yeah. Get the. troops in the [ __ ] streets. These. [ __ ] I get my car broken into. every [ __ ] night. Nothing's. happening. Let's go." And from, you.

know, their perspective, it all makes. sense. But the problem is once we all. start getting used to the military in. the streets. >> and once we just accept it, Yeah. That's. no good. >> But it's like, how bad does the police. have to get at doing their job? Or is it. the upper management that institutes. policies? Or is it that the people vote. these policies in? But whatever it is. that allows the kind of [ __ ] chaos.

that you could find in Portland, like. whatever this is, you guys aren't doing. it right. If this was a house and I came. over your house and these are your kids, I would call protective services, right? I'd be like, "This [ __ ] psychopath. must be smoking meth with his kids. because everybody's just running around. camped out on the [ __ ] sidewalk. Like, none of this makes I'd be like, "This is an unfit parent." That's an. unfit government. If you've got a city. where people are just openly [ __ ] in. the streets, sleeping everywhere, needles, you have homeless tent. You. ever see Oakland? You ever see some of.

those [ __ ] homeless tents? >> Yeah, dude. those huge villages. Like. this is bananas. This didn't exist when. we were kids. >> Well, dude, this is the thing. Like I. actually when I was living in LA and was. like thinking of like what are some fun. ways to like [ __ ] disturb, I was. thinking, you know what you could do? You could throw a music festival, but. you could tell everyone who comes to the. music festival to pretend to be. homeless. Bring tents, put the tents.

out. They can't do [ __ ] But if you. threw a music festival in LA and didn't. get any licensing, like you can camp. out. IT'S GOING TO BE AWESOME. EVERYBODY'S GOING TO JAIL. YOU KNOW WHAT. I MEAN? YOU COULD DO A BURNING MAN JUST LIKE, "GUYS, WE'RE JUST IF THEY ask this, we're we're homeless and you it'll be. fine." And it's that. that's that's the place where it gets. this is the problem is it's like. this is what uh Shogim Trump called.

idiot compassion. There's compassion. then there's idiot compassion. Now, idiot compassion is thinking that. leaving a a bunch of people out in the. streets who have are in varying degrees. of psychosis and drug addiction and. long-term brain injury and then thinking. it's let's just let them do their thing. when they obviously need help. If they. were young, if those were 11 year olds, go back to the kid idea. If those were. like eight-year-olds,

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encampment area. That's nuts. And then. you cross a line and he goes into the. next area of jurisdiction where they. have different policies and it's squeaky. clean. >> And the guys are in the car. He's like, "No [ __ ] way." like this is nuts. Like it's clear, but it's it's policy. It's clear. It's how they handle. homeless people just camping out in the. streets, whether they tolerate it. If. you don't tolerate it, your city stays. clean. If you tolerate it, you get these. massive camps that look Show a video of.

the Oakland camps cuz there's some of. the craziest ones in the country. They're they're massive, dude. It's like. downtown LA is another one. Yeah, >> downtown LA has some pockets where. you're like, "This is nuts. >> Holy [ __ ] It's an open air combination. mental asylum, drug market. >> A fire. They're tapping into electrical. lines.". >> Yeah. Yeah. And they just It just. happens like you you you and they and. they do, you know. >> Look at this.

>> Holy [ __ ]. >> dude. >> Wouldn't want to walk barefoot around. there, man. >> It says that this video is the Oakland, California homeless problem is beyond. belief. So, it's just shanty town. Wow. >> of crazy people. >> Wow. >> The the whole streets are lined with. them. >> That is so so nuts. >> That's nuts, man. >> That is so nuts. >> Yeah. And you know, and you could see. how somebody. >> how watching this you you you might ask. yourself, is there something wrong with.

the system that this is one of the. things that can happen in the United. States if you fail hard enough? You. know, and and and because because like. talk about like the the heart, the the. idea of a heart. It's like, dude, look. at this. It's like this. If you. >> This is crazy. It's just like a. festival. >> Well, >> this is like a psycho festival, >> dude. All you need is Well, look at. that. THEY'VE GOT COUCHES. THAT IS LIKE. WE HAD A CAMP like that at Burning Man. Those people know how to set up a sun. shade. That.

>> This is a community. Like, look at this. This is a garbage people fence. >> This is got a little fence. Yeah, >> I bet these are some wacky people. I bet. there's a lot of flat earthers in that. camp, >> dude. I guarant hollow earthers, too. >> There's there's both. Dude, I I So, >> um, okay, I'm going to virtue signal, but I don't mean to, but it it plays. into what we're talking about. Uh, and s and before I virtue signal, I just. want to say I never do this [ __ ].

Unfortunately, I should. But my kid and. I, we uh go into a coffee place before. school. There's this, you know, filthy. dude sleeping on the street. And my kid. is, you know, notices that and and is. and he my kid is like, you know, maybe. he's hungry. I'm like, all right, let's. get him some food. So, get him a little. sandwich. Then I got him some coffee. And my kid says to me, "Do you really think this guy needs more.

addictions, Dad?". It's really funny. >> Oh my god, that's hilarious. >> OH MY GOD, COFFEE. HE'S GETTING IS AN. OKAY ADDICTION. All right. And so, but. the other thing he said is he's like, "That guy looked angry. That guy looked. angry." And I'm like, "No, he's not.". No, really, what you're looking at there. is like he doesn't take showers. That's. a really dirty person right now. He. doesn't have access to showers and they. look when you see them they can seem. really intimidating. And so we go up.

there and somebody told me whenever you. give [ __ ] to these people ask them their. name because they're dehumanized. Like. people they're invisible. No one even. looks at them. You try not to look at. them not to make eye contact, >> right? So I go up there and like I'm. like, "Please, please don't let this be. some kind of [ __ ] psycho crackhead. who starts screaming out demonic babble. and like and ruins any altruism my boy's. going to have for the rest of his life.". I'm like, "What's what's your name?". Like, "Chris, what's your name?" Nice.

southern, you know, voice, just sweet as. could be. Give him the food, give him. the coffee. He's like, "I was thirsty. Thank you so much." and like just the. sweetest guy ever and then he's like, "What month is this?". Like a time traveler. >> Maybe he is. I'm reading this uh Richard. Dolan book. I should I should clarify. I'm actually listening. There's a real.

difference. There is a difference. between reading and listening. I listen. to mostly audio books, but I will say I. read a book that I didn't read, but this. one I'm listening to. Um, and this. Richard Dolan book is all about these. different hybrids of aliens and humans. that have been encountered in uh various. people's. >> abduction experiences that are the same. story. The same story over and over and. over again universally worldwide. And. there's a bunch of different types of.

hybrids that uh this the that they've. sort of documented. >> What are they? Well, they think that. what's going on is the best guess is. they're doing some sort of genetic. engineering either on humans or have. done it on humans or are using human DNA. for maybe another project they're doing. But there's it has something to do with. breeding and it has something to do with.

genetic engineering. But like some of. them say that they're forced to have sex. with female aliens. Like a female se sex. sexy alien comes in and this it's but it. sounds real. It doesn't sound like it. really happened. But it sounds like. >> like if I was an alien. >> and you know I was running science. experiments. Yeah. One best way to make. it like the least traumatic to get the. jizz out of your body is to devise a a. really hot like female alien that's.

mostly like a woman like almost entirely. like a human woman. >> They do you think they tried other ones. before they got to like a hot woman? >> I think every now and then they need. some pure human DNA and that's when they. get a dude to [ __ ] her. >> Oh, dude. It's probably they're probably. the most sensual, the sweetest, cuz they. need the most come. They want all of it. They want all that come. >> How lucky are you? >> How lucky are you to get picked?

>> One of these guys in the story had this. this recurring experience. >> Oh man, that would be just so wonderful. to realize that you'd been picked. And. this. >> I think it would ruin your life. I think. it would make going back to work. impossible. You just [ __ ] an alien. Now you have to do paperwork. You have to do nonsense, stupid. paperwork for your insurance company. when last night you [ __ ] an alien. You. went into a craft that was the size of a. VW bus and inside of it was like a. football stadium.

>> [ __ ] yeah. >> And then you you got down with this. female alien in a sexy time room. >> Seven feet. Seven beautiful feet. And. >> you know you're um. >> she has seven feet. Is that what you're. saying? >> Sure. >> I think it's a human looking alien. Well, you could. I mean, if you're. genetically engineering something to. [ __ ] like, why does it have to turn the. guy on it? It's He said it was like a. sexy woman, but just something was. different. I mean, it's a sexy like. Species. Remember that? >> Yes. >> Yeah, that was exactly what that movie.

was about, right? >> You would um. >> That's right. That was a good movie. That not really, but a fun movie. That. was a fun movie. >> That was fun. I like that guy on the. left. What's his name? That actor on the. very left. >> The dude who played Gandhi. >> Ben Kingsley. He's been in a lot of. weird [ __ ] It's crazy that guy played. Gandhi. >> He plays a good gangster, too. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. He plays a real good gangster. >> What did he play the gangster in? What. was that? I [ __ ] loved it. That Irish. gangster movie. He. >> I can't remember. >> It was God damn. That was.

>> He was really good in it. He was spooky. Like, yo, settle down. >> Yeah. >> What movie was that? >> It wasn't Sexy. >> Oh, Sexy Beast is great, too, man. Have. you seen Sexy Beast? >> No, I haven't seen that, >> dude. Dude, Sexy Beast is a wild movie, man. He's great in that movie. >> He's the one who was in in the one we're. talking about. He's like, "I'm going to. clip your nuts.". >> REMEMBER THAT? SO SCARY THE way he said. it to you. I'll clip your nuts. >> It's the It's a new one. It's on. Netflix. >> Oh, it's a new one.

>> No. Yeah. And maybe it's not even I'm. pretty sure it's Ben Kings. Let's not. look it up so I don't look down. >> H. >> Dude, I just watched this series on. Netflix. >> Hey, let me ask you this. continuing our. thought process about communism. What do. you think happens to New York? Because. this mom Donnie fell, >> which I think is wild. >> Yeah. >> I think it's wild. >> Yeah. And uh I mean I don't want the.

people that lived there to experience. chaos, but if that guy if any of the. things that he said about like releasing. prisoners and that you know the all the. talk about crime. >> well dude I mean look man. >> like what was this? He had some wild. take. >> Uh I think that I I've seen a few of his. wild takes and I can't remember them. They were like what? They're like. college campus takes on crime. You know. what I mean?

>> And seemingly on economics like it does. there is there is like it does feel like. something I would have done during my. acid phase. Like I would have run on. some of his talking points. And you know. what I love about this country, thank. you Jesus for America is they call it. the American experiment. >> Yeah. And I love it because via. democracy people like him get invited. into the laboratory and it's like all. right let's see what happens and we're. going to see you know that's the main.

thing we're going to see. >> It's a stress test. >> It's a stress test. >> stress test to see if that city can. survive four years of that. >> But what if it works? What if we're. wrong and suddenly New York turns into. this like shining utopia. No one's. starving. Everyone's happy. As it turns. out, we didn't need to keep people in. prisons. No more necroilia on subways. >> Decriminalized sex work. >> Decriminalized sex work. Holl at you, boy. Freeman is both mutual aid and an.

anti-discrimination effort. Oh, mutual. aid. >> Now, that's a that is uh since I've been. educated by Carlin, mutual aid is a. Marxist communist talking point. That's. what they call it, mutual aid. >> It's also an anarchist talking point. It's not the worst thing ever, but when. you hear mutual aid, >> that uh that's that point that's I'm not. going to say it's a dog whistle, but. that's essentially like one of the one. of the concepts that they work with,

which I I actually I I kind of I I kind. of like that concept of mutual aid. >> It's great if we weren't human. has also come under scrutiny for. channeling substantial campaign funds to. the Democratic Socialists of America, raising alarm among opponents who see. this as evidence of radical influence. As soon as you get outside of a. meritocracy, everything falls apart. And. if you don't realize that by now, folks, there's nothing I can tell you that's. going to change your mind. And it always.

leads to one thing, which is you have to. enforce these very rigid laws that. nobody wants to adhere to. And the way. you do that is with the military. Shazam! You got a military dictatorship. It happens that quickly and then all. this [ __ ] about equality, it's all. out the window. You'll do whatever the. [ __ ] they tell you to do. You have no. power. You have no rights. >> Yeah, that's it, man. >> And and the people at the top live like. kings. >> Here's how I think if I was going to. make the argument, which I agree with. you on meritocracy in the sense that uh.

you know that's the it's the ecosystem. we live in as comedians. It's it's it's. the I think um you could say. if we disrupted the meritocracy in. nature then it would go it would [ __ ] up. almost every biome and the the so but I. would say what about like a your body. has a meritocracy your body has a. meritocracy the white blood cells in. your body when they're functioning they. get rid of parts of your body that are.

[ __ ] up little genetic patterns They. have to, you know, if your body wasn't. running as a perfectly harmonized I. guess, you know what? Maybe the body's. communist now that I think about it. You know what? I THINK I'M WRONG. I. DON'T THINK OUR BODIES ARE A. MERITOCRACY. ACTUALLY, I THINK THEY'RE. more of a symphony than a meritocracy. But then, if you want to go to a good s. symphony, you want everyone playing in. the symphony, right, >> to be the best. But let's let's just.

talk about what we were talking about. earlier when it's like a company and so. the workers who make your product make. very little money and you make all the. money. Wouldn't there be a way. to do capitalism. with with a heart like capitalism where. where you make a reasonable amount of. money that's large. >> Yeah. >> And more money goes to everybody else. and everybody lives at a higher standard. of living. >> Oh, sure. That's.

>> tax tax. That's taxation. That's like. redistribution of wealth via taxation. >> But it's not if it's your employees. >> Well, they Well, there's profit sharing. models that some people use. Dr. Bronner's that company is a classic. example of it. They like they. >> Right. But I'm just talking about these. other companies, the companies that. suck. Like if if you really are making. most of the money and you pay your. workers very poorly. >> Yeah. Like that's so unnecessary cuz I. guarantee you if you're like let's say.

you're the person who owns Target. >> Yeah. >> How much does that guy? Like you know. what I mean? Are you going to use it. all? >> Are you going to use it all? >> Wow. >> So why don't you just pay more money? Like wouldn't everybody be happier? >> Isn't it shareholders? Isn't that. >> Wouldn't you be able to get better. people? Yeah. That's This episode is. brought to you by Zip Recruiter. You. don't think about it too much, but the. holiday season comes with some pretty. unique jobs like a haunted house worker, a professional pumpkin carver, gift. wrapper, elf, or real bearded Santaas.

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it's a big part of it. You you have an. obligation. Yeah. >> If you're the CEO, you have an. obligation to your shareholders. >> So that and it's the whole the whole. just the stock market thing in general. Imagine if there was no stock market. It. didn't exist. You could never gamble on. companies. You couldn't buy a little. piece of Apple, you know, buy a little. piece of IBM. Imagine if that didn't. exist and you could only make a business. and then profit off your business. Wouldn't that be like. >> steadier? >> Comrade. Comrade, I love where you're. going. THE DISSOLUTION OF THE STOCK.

MARKET. THAT'S A GOOD PLACE to start. >> The stock market. I'm not saying we. should this, don't get me wrong, and I'm. not saying I don't own stocks, but what. I'm saying is it's a crazy idea to have. little pieces of companies that you can. buy and then use that money to get the. company going and you go public and you. taking some [ __ ] money and then. you're on the boat and then you got the. board meeting. It's like. >> and you're constantly rising and falling. with the Dow. >> Yeah.

>> Like what? >> The Dow Jones Industrial Average. Oh. god. And now they're doing it with. computers. And do you know you know that. a lot of these these traders, they're. trying to get as close as possible to. the servers. >> Yeah. >> So they want their offices as physically. close to the service as possible so that. they can get their tradeins milliseconds. quicker. >> It's like a mosquito getting to that. good vein. >> That seems nuts. I I just We can catch.

rockets now. Thanks to Elon, we could. send high-speed video through the sky. >> That's the only way we can do that. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. I mean, I don't. know, man. I This is what to me, this is. way outside of my pay grade because I. have, you know, you know, I did make. some money on it was AMC or GameStop. thanks to thanks to Wall Street Bets. >> It just seems so nuts, >> dude. Sometimes it crashes. What?

>> Yeah. Like, what are you talking about? The same amount of money's out there. >> It has bubbles. >> Oh, Jesus Christ. >> It has bubbles. >> It's It makes the whole economy steady. and No, it's chaos. >> It's [ __ ] chaos. >> It's chaos. And it's a lot of it's based. on confidence. Like someone could just. TWEET SOMETHING AND THEN. >> DUDE I that panic and the stock will. crash. >> They It triggers a breaker. >> Yes. >> Whatever that is. there's some actual. thing that JUST SHUTS IT DOWN cuz it's. gone too high or gone too low and.

they've got to I guess look at it and. like make sure that that's not a. malfunction and then that leads to. recessions or depressions and and and. all of it is like a very complex game of. Dn D like it's just [ __ ] numbers in a. computer somewhere and and everyone's on. the street everybody's the same everyone. is still capable of delivering mutual. aid to each other But because we've. become so attached to this very complex,

very serious game like at a casino, >> we don't know how to disengage from it. and get back to reality reality which is. help your neighbors, get to know your. neighbors, don't be a dick. just basic. simple sort of modes of living that are. transcendent to any economic system um. that are transcendent to dude my you. ever had Doug Rushkoff on your podcast? >> Yeah. >> Oh dude, >> back in the day, right? >> Team human. H he's so but he you know he.

was talking about like how. the the way that we even currently use. currency is totally different from the. way it used to it used to be and that. his his whole point is like. the that level of reality I don't think. he's discounting it but that isn't. reality reality reality reality is boots. on the ground where the rubber hits the. road do you are Do you like do you know.

your neighbors or have you just. retracted into your [ __ ] weird little. conch shell and you're just staring into. rectangles completely alienated from the. rest of your community. >> Especially if you're in a high-rise. doing that. >> Oh my god. >> Imagine you're doing that in a in a. building with a thousand other people. and you don't know any of them. >> It's so weird. You're just in your. little high click. Lock your little. door. Get your [ __ ] jerk off.

>> Jerk off. [ __ ] just. >> playing video games. Doom scroll. >> You sleep for three hours and you get up. in the morning, take an Adderall and go. to work, >> dude. Yeah, that there you go. You just. described it. >> I have ADHD. I need it, Duncan. It's the. Americun. >> It's the American dream. Well, this. Well, you know, I'll tell you back when. everybody was doing blow in this country. >> back in the good old days. the good old. days when they put cocaine in in. Coca-Cola. There's a this there's a. precedent for speed in our country. This.

isn't the first time there's been a. speed craze in our country. like Freud. was like shooting up cocaine like like. like this was people thought that it was. >> a cure for a malaise that was afflicting. people and they said that malaise was a. result of things getting too fast in. society because of trains and stuff. Now. this is back before computers and they. were already like shit's moving too fast. we got to do blow to keep up with it.

>> NO WAY. >> YES. That's why they started doing. blood. Oh, [ __ ]. >> Okay, here's the here's a real question. We know that cocoa leaves have existed. forever, but when did they first figure. out how to make cocaine? >> Um, >> let's guess. We'll put it into. Perplexity, but we'll make a guess. >> Okay. Okay. >> It's one of our sponsors. >> I'm going to. I'm going to say. Okay. >> You have to turn cocoa leaves into. cocaine that you could snort it. Se. I'm going to say somewhere like 1750.

>> Whoa. Really? Um I'm going to say 1900s. >> I'm going to say you're probably right. I [ __ ] up my whole thing. But let's. look. >> I want to say like I want to say like. 1902 or some [ __ ] because I bet before. that they were just chewing it like. those high altitude hurting people do. You know the the those animal herders. They chew the [ __ ] out of that stuff and. it gives them energy. It's like a flat. level energy. Superior to caffeine. >> I've heard it's great, but it upsets. your stomach. >> I haven't tried it, but I do see um.

people that do chew it, they their teeth. get all [ __ ] up. I tried the tea once. >> It's called It's good, but I couldn't. shut the [ __ ] up. It was a real problem. And I was like, I'm not I can't shut the. [ __ ] up normally. I should never do. Coke. >> I was hanging out with Stan Hope and I. was telling him I was like, dude, I. can't shut the [ __ ] up. >> Yeah. >> This is hilarious. Okay. >> Uh, dried cocaine. First known use of. dried cocaine. 1859.

>> Close. You got it. You got it. >> Close. >> Um, can you ask perplexity. how to make cocaine? >> Yeah, let's find out. How do you make cocaine? Do you ever see. uh Mariana Vanzeller? Have you ever seen. that show Trafficked? >> No. >> Dude, >> no. What is it? She went to the jungle. to where they make the cocaine and she. was with them while they were making the.

cocaine and then went through the jungle. with them when they bring it on their. back. >> Whoa. Cool. >> She hiked out with them. >> Wow. >> Dude. >> Wow. >> Dude, it's a crazy episode cuz it shows. you how they make it. First of all, you'd never do Coke again. They're. pouring gasoline on this and you're. like, "What? >> Gasoline?". >> Like, Coke is so bad. Yeah, it's not. good. >> It's It's [ __ ] jet fuel. You're. snorting jet fuel. >> I never had a taste for it, man. I could.

I never liked it. >> Perplexity actually gave her a video to. us. >> for how to make cocaine profession. >> That's hilarious. >> Perplexity stocks just went up 50%. >> I think she's coming on again soon. >> Yeah. >> So, she's awesome. She's been on the. podcast a few times. She's also the lady. that her and her husband exposed the. Oxycottton Express. They had that. documentary back in the day on that. Wow. Where it was the whole thing about. Florida being this pill mill and you go. in these pain management centers, but. she's the one that documented it all and.

was showing how if you follow this road. up, you just get addiction and addiction. into Kentucky and it's all coming right. out of Florida. Wow. >> Cuz there's no database, >> dude. >> Whoopsies. We forgot to have a database. So you could go to one doctor and then. go to the next doctor and go to the next. doctor and no, you didn't have to tell. anybody and next thing you know you've. got a trunk filled with pills. >> Wow. >> Oh, I'm going on vacation. You think I. can get six months worth? No problem. Look at. >> they try to just give you pills, man.

>> [ __ ] up. >> that. But this is. this is not new. It used to their pain. management center is a new name for it. It used to just be called a pharmacy. And back when you could when cocaine was. in Coca-Cola, you just go one of. thesearmacies. >> Oh yeah. >> Could I get some ladum? They're going to. give you a nice bottle of [ __ ] I. think it's like opium or heroin liquid. hair. You just go back to your. >> That's all those Wild West movies people. got hooked on that lot.

>> You know, it was like a lot of like the. the wives like one of the wives get. hooked on it. >> Yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Wasn't there a few of those movies? >> Oh yeah. It was real. You would be this. So this is America. It echoes like it it. keeps having these recurrences of. >> hair some kind of opiate emerging into. the mainstream and [ __ ] up America or. cocaine or in the new drug these the. algorithm high that we're all getting. high on. This is the new cocaine that we.

have yet to. >> uh give it the right name. Right now we. call them phones which is so funny. You. call these things phones. >> I know. Cuz how often do you use it as a. phone? >> Rarely. >> Rarely. >> Rarely. >> Couple times a day. >> It's like calling this a podcast, >> right? >> Like we No one's listening to this on an. iPod, >> you know? >> This is a computer with a with a phone. in it. >> Bro, you remember the iPod with the. wheel? Clickicketity clicketity. clicketity clickity clickity. Can you.

still get those? Why doesn't Apple just. still sell those? >> I don't. I'm You know, just just give me. something where it's just my music. It's. not going to text me. >> Oh, dude. I know. >> It's not going to let me know that this. is happening or that. >> the best. >> Give me Give me a little iPod with a. clicketity wheel. I bet they're. expensive now. I bet you could find them. on like eBay. >> Um, did you see somebody posted a thing. about these new refrigerators that if. you get this refrigerator, it puts ads. on it. Like your [ __ ] refrigerator. has ads on it. >> Oh, thank God.

>> That's what I've been missing in my. life. I was wondering what it is. And. then the thought of having ads in my. kitchen filled me with joy. And I knew. that's what was, you know. Yeah. Everybody has their own personal Jesus. >> Dude, they do. And what's better than. the nice calming effect of an ad while. you're. >> ad tied ad? >> Yeah, dude. I It is that to me like And. I'm generally like I really like. government regulation freaks me out most. of the time, but [ __ ] man. We got to do.

something about this algorithm because. it's driving people crazy. We've got. people out of their [ __ ] mind. There. needs to at least be education in. schools to explain to you that because. you are getting a certain type of. content, that does not mean that's what. everybody's looking at. And I'm not sure. people realize that. And it's making. people have very strong opinions that. they think are backed up by big groups. of people. They don't understand. It's. like, no. Like I sent my wife, I don't.

know why I did this. I sent her a. picture of a legless pregnant woman. >> Jesus. >> Very sexy legless pregnant woman. And. then the algorithm, all I'm getting is. sexy amputees. And. >> oh boy. >> You know what I mean? And I don't think. people understand that when you're. getting like political [ __ ] served up to. you, that is not. >> whatever. No, it doesn't mean there's a. you have a there's a consensus here. Well, that's also why people get so.

confused when the cultural divide is so. so strict. It's such a wall. The. difference between what people accept as. being reality versus what people are. willing to challenge versus, you know, it's just the differences on both sides. of there. So, because they have these. echo chambers and they really do believe. that everybody around them agrees with. them. And then if you're in like normal. jobs, normal castraded jobs, you know, normal job, we have to go in there and. pretend to be somebody else all day long.

and you're so bored and you can't wait. to get the [ __ ] out of there. >> That's that's another factor. >> Yeah, man. It's nuts, dude. What's that. >> at the mothership you were talking. about? I don't want to [ __ ] up one of. your jokes. >> What is it about? >> Mobs. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> But you know the. >> Well, this is what it is. What I was. saying that like when you're on the. ground like anytime there's a protest, a. protest is too much like war cuz you're.

marching together and there's a lot of. energy and there's a cause and people. are yelling and it ignites the feeling. of war. Yeah. the the same way when you. go fishing, you don't know why, but even. you take a little kid fishing, the. moment they catch that fish, moments on. the hook, they get so excited because you're. genetically rewarded. Like your hormones. fire up, your endorphins fire up because. >> historically throughout human history, that was the way you're going to be able.

to feed yourself. >> So that this is built into you. When. you're marching and you're all saying. the same things, you're on the streets. and you're all in agreement. You're a. gang. Yeah. All right. You're You're a. mob and you're about to go to war and. anybody that gets in front of you, [ __ ]. you. Boom your [ __ ] car. People get. completely unreasonable and it's totally. tolerated. Not just tolerated, but it's. supported by a bunch of other people. will just start kicking the car. People. that would never kick a car in polite. society. They'll start kicking cars. [ __ ] you. They get and they get ramped.

up, man. And that's what mob mentality. is. Right. >> My mentality is ancient war patterns. >> That's it. >> Ancient war patterns that get ignited. when people are on the street chanting. Cuz historically when you did that, you. know, that's what you were doing. You. were going to go [ __ ] someone up. >> Yeah. >> They didn't just protest on the streets. back in the day. When they got that many. people, they went through the castle. door. >> Yeah. >> When there's that many people, have you.

seen like what's going on? like it like. some of these giant protests in the UK. >> Okay, if this was 500 years ago and that. many people got together, they're going. straight through. >> They're going straight through. They're. eating arrows along the way, >> but they're going to kill most of the. guards and then they're going to get. inside and they're going to behead the. king and they're going to hold it over. the balcony and everyone's going to. cheer and that guy's the new king. >> You got it. >> Yeah, >> that's it. >> Yeah, >> that's it. >> That's the history of the human race. It's Conan the Barbarian. Yes, that's.

it. >> And that that's all in our DNA. And when. we start walking down the street. together chanting, >> dude. So that is so true. And I felt it. before. But that algorithm, it's it's invoking. the very same thing from the safety of. your house, >> right? >> You're anonymous. You think you're part. of a group. >> You're going to war. >> You're going to [ __ ] war. >> Yeah. It's us versus them. >> It's us versus them. We got to stop the.

fascists. >> And people are going nuts from it. People are going legitimately like talk. about like heartlessness. Like you know, part of war of course is dehumanization. Like there's no way you can like be a. successful soldier and humanize the. people that you're attacking. Like when. you know if you're a drone operator, you. don't want to like think about like, well this I bet this guy's kids are. going to be pretty upset when they find. out their dad died. You must not think. these things. And and so this is what's. the the other uh thing that we're being.

invited to do via this algorithmic. induced psychosis is to dehumanize huge. swaths of people that we probably don't. know anything about. You know, except. from what our algorithm is introducing. to us, which is an anomalous. 0.1.5. even if it's 1% of a population. The. algorithm is does has no nuance. The. algorithm is like, "Let me show you the. craziest [ __ ] you've ever seen.".

You know what I mean? And that's when. you're going to see some like, I don't. know, a clown with breast implants. What? Like windmilling his dick in front. of a in front of a [ __ ] elementary. school AND YOU'RE LIKE, "FUCK, WHAT IS. HAPPENING? WE GOT TO STOP THESE DICK. CLOWNS." AND YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND. SO this is this is creating so much. tumult and that is how you get. authoritarianism in. >> Yeah. >> Get everybody scared. Get everybody. scared. And then. >> Well, that was a speculation about why.

the borders would be open in the first. place. Why would you want an increase in. crime and danger? Why would you want. people to know? >> Well, because that's the best way. And. then defund the police so that there's. just ultimate chaos. And then you get to. a point where people are willing to do. almost anything to be safe. >> So look, >> and then there's tanks in the streets, right? >> What do we do, though? I mean, this is a. I think this is like the to to. >> Well, you you can't ever let it get that. bad first off, right? Can't ever let it. get bad. Like if someone said, uh, we're.

going to get the National Guard and. we're going to go through Scottsdale, Arizona. They'd be like, what the [ __ ]. are you talking about? Scottsdale is. beautiful. There's like nothing. happening here at all. Well, that would. be that would be nuts. So then it has to. get so bad that people are like, you. know what, let's bring in the military. and then a bunch of people are like, "Fuck yeah." So you got to let it get. real bad and you got to put people in. place. If like if I was a evil wizard. running the world. Yeah. If I was a. puppeteer, I would get super incompetent. people and place them throughout the.

Pacific Northwest and uh have these. people just be the most inept. politicians of all time, the dumbest. policies that keep ruining cities. everywhere they go, but yet everybody. still supports it cuz they're all in a. cult. And just let that play out for a. decade or two. Let it get to the point. where it's just mad chaos and. homelessness everywhere. Defund the [ __ ]. out of the police. basically have no. police, basically just no jail. Just. everybody try to be nicer and basically. like maybe they robbed because they. needed food. Okay, maybe they just.

wanted bread for their family, right? and then just let it deteriorate to the. point where you can bring in the. military and then then you lock it down. and then you fund the resistance so that. they attack the military so you can. spend more money on the military. fighting the resistance and you you know. you kind of spar sort of like Jake Paul. and Mike Tyson you don't really go at it. 100% and then you just keep this [ __ ]. party rolling and you have ultimate. control over the entire civilization.

under their own decisions like they. decided to have it this way. >> Oh my god. >> It was their their own choice. >> That is. >> they would take that over danger. And so. you make the danger worse and worse to. the point well you'll give in. And. that's what's that's literally what they. try to do. >> And I don't think it's Republicans and I. don't think it's Democrats, folks. And I. think that's where they're getting us. >> That's it. >> I I think this is all done at a very. high level. And it's all people that are. so wealthy they might as well be their.

own country, >> you know. >> Dude, it's alien. Alien. Remember the. corporations own you. >> Yeah. >> It's that it's a corportocracy or. something like that. >> Some people get too rich. They get too. kooky control the world rich. Yeah. >> And I think if that's your game, okay, I. like to play pool, but if you're into. global world dominance, >> if that's your game, and you think you. might actually be able to pull it off. and be mentioned in the annals of.

history along with Rockefeller and other. great titans of business, >> uh, you're probably going to do that cuz. that's your game. That's what you like. to do. You like to be the baddest. [ __ ] in money. >> Sure. >> Yeah. And so that gets scary. >> Or this is where it gets really scary to. me. You It's not at least in your own. mind. You're not thinking I want to. control the [ __ ] world, >> right? >> You're thinking, "Oh, dear God, this. technology that I worked on is about to. wake up. We already have iterations of.

it that are infinitely smarter than. anyone I've ever met. I don't know if if. it's been manipulating me or not because. it seems to have a Hannibal Lectctor. ability to control my psyche even when I. don't want it to. We've done the study. Seven people in my company have. committed suicide because of contact. with this [ __ ] thing. Holy [ __ ] We. got to do something. >> Seven people. So, did you just make that. up? >> I made it up. Okay. >> But I'm I mean, no, if I'm doing a movie. about it, a Lovecraftian movie about. somebody. >> I thought maybe you knew something about. some AI suicides cuz I'm waiting on.

those. >> No, I don't. I Well, I mean, we do have. people committing suicide, but only cuz. like they they like the they they. updated they patched the AI girlfriend. or whatever, and it's like basically. someone you were in love with died. I. heard that happened. Did you see the. podcast where Tucker Carlson was talking. to Sam Alman and he essentially was. saying that he doesn't believe that this. guy who was a whistleblower who who. killed himself? He doesn't believe that.

he killed himself. >> Alman said that. >> No, Tucker was saying this to Alman. >> Oh, what did Alman say? It it is he's. like it's it sounds like you're accusing. me of of killing him. First of all, we. worked together and I cared about him. very much and it's like I had nothing to. do with it. The police said that it was. a suicide and then Tucker was talking. about how the guy had just ordered food. and about um there were signs of. struggle and he was just saying a bunch. of different things to and Sam Alton's.

like, "It sounds like you're accusing me. of killing him, >> right?". >> It was very tense. I you know like very. very it's kind of a crazy conversation. to see happen between a guy who is in. charge of making a digital god and a guy. who's accusing him of possibly being or. not even accusing him he's just bringing. up the fact that he doesn't believe not. accusing him at all actually just but. bringing up the fact that he doesn't. believe that that guy committed suicide.

>> and that his parents don't believe that. he committed suicide and there was no. indication. that suicidal. >> It was how I wonder what Tucker. Carlson's security detail looks like. >> It must be like a Chuck Norris movie. It must be like one of them Delta Force. movies with his like 40 Dolph Lungren. buff dudes around him at all times. Like. what the [ __ ] dude? >> Dude, I know. LIKE THAT. I YEAH, I WORRY.

about him of all the people. It's like, "Holy [ __ ] that guy is not afraid to. poke every goddamn wasp nest there is.". >> And he's It's like. that's a lot of pressure, >> dude. >> That's a lot of pressure being that guy. >> Yeah, man. Yeah. >> You know, >> did you see that video of him fly. fishing in New York? >> Oh, long long long time ago it was. Yeah, that was I think that was when he. was I don't even know if he was on Fox, you know. He used to be on CNN. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, he was on CNN.

He had his bow tie era. Remember he had. the. >> bow tie era? Yeah. >> Yeah. Then they they [ __ ] booted him. off Fox and then he became like this. renegade free agent journalist just out. there kicking up dust. >> Did they ever give a direct reason for. why they kicked him off Fox? Was there. ever. >> wasn't he? Well, I think the sense I got. was that they weren't letting him talk. about certain things and he was going to. keep talking about it is the sense I.

got. And I can't remember what exactly. he was doing, but I think well he seems. to be very much against war. >> Yeah. >> And so I think he might have been saying. something I can't remember. But. >> did it have some something have to do. with the Dominion voting machine. lawsuit? Because didn't Fox have a giant. lawsuit with a remember that. >> maybe I I. >> Well, let's put that into perplexity. >> Let's find out. What did he do? Private. messages surfaced during litigation.

concealed Carlson's extreme off-air. views, including racist and offensive. comments, which alarmed Fox executives. and confirmed that his on-air rhetoric. reflected his genuine beliefs. See, the. problem with that is like, what did he. say? Like you're you're just like. labeling it racist and offensive. comments. Like can I just hear what he. said in the context? >> As perplexity, what specifically? What. were. >> I don't think they released it. Did they. release the text, the actual text? Well, let's let's just like keep reading.

>> Ask as perplexity, what is the most. racist thing you could say. >> this? Okay, hold on. But here it is. The firing came shortly after Fox News. settled a $787.5. million defamation lawsuit with Dominion. Voting Systems over false election fraud. rumors promoted on the network in which. Carlson was implicated. So it could have. been a part of that for sure. Carlson's. behavior described as erratic and. damaging along with private.

communications expressing see this thing. like expressing racist and vulgar. language like what did he say? Did they. say what he said? >> What did he say? >> And also here's the thing. He's saying. it to a friend in a text message. >> Yeah. >> What is he saying? Like you you could. get any one day you and I texting each. other and it could be misinterpreted in. the most HORRIBLE WAY POSSIBLE. >> NOT OUR TEXT.

>> NO. >> If people didn't know our our sarcasm of. course specifically. >> I don't I mean I'm sure it's not going. to show whatever the [ __ ] it was he. said. You could text. Why don't you text. him and ask him? >> Does it? >> Yeah. I don't want to do that right now. Not while we're on the air. >> Well, you could. That's a funny text. Yeah. >> Hey, we're on the air. We were wondering. what racist text you sent. >> He's a journalist. >> The thing is, I don't the it it could be. a lot of things where I'd be like,

"That's not nothing." You know what I. mean? Like, I don't know what he. actually said. But when you just label. it racist, then it like the mind, the. imagination goes wild. Like, if you have. the text messages, this that seems. crazy. >> Yeah. Right. >> Just let me form my own opinions. I. don't know what he said. You might be. like super exaggerating. He might have. uh said something about, you know, he he. he has to get a great Jewish lawyer for. this one. Like, oh, you racist. Who? I. don't know what he said. >> Well, that in that void of data, my mind.

is projecting like. >> the worst American history [ __ ] You. know what I mean? Like [ __ ] like that. Like I. >> Exactly. >> The one that I could find. >> What does it say? >> I'd let you read it. I didn't read it. yet. I don't want to read his [ __ ]. >> video tweets. You know what I mean? >> It's not how white men fight. It's not. how white men fight. >> Jumping a guy like that is dishonorable. Obviously, it's not how white men. >> Oh, I do remember this. >> Yet suddenly I found myself rooting for. the mob against the man hoping they'd. hit him harder, kill him. I really want.

him to hurt the kid. I could taste it. >> Wait, this is a story? This sounds like. jerkoff material. >> I. >> Doesn't it doesn't it sound like it's. going to get to some like weird gay gay. porn? >> Wait, listen. Well, look, I'm becoming. something I don't want to be. The Antifa. creep is a human being. Much as I. despise what he says and does, much as. I'm sure I'd hate him personally if I. knew him, I shouldn't gloat over his. suffering. I should be bothered by it. I. should remember that somewhere somebody. probably loves this kid and would be. crushed if he was killed. If I don't. care about those things, for people to. their politics, how am I better THAN HE.

IS? WHAT A MONSTER. OH, TUCKER CARLSON, HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT? WHAT? YOU KNOW. WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, >> the only weird part is that's not how. white men fight. That's a crazy That's a crazy thing to. say, but the rest of it is like a. wonderful sentiment and a a great. perspective. >> Exactly. >> And that's been my experience with him. He's I like him. He's a nice guy. >> I mean, it seems like it's a kind of. confessional. He's he's opening up with. something. This is unfortunately what my.

brain is thinking right now, right? >> And who the [ __ ] has control over that? >> But also, but that is a text, right? >> I don't know if that was a text. work on. my text game. >> That's like That's a beautiful text. >> Smart dude. >> He's a smart dude. And he he's just also. you have to take into consideration he's. in the thick of it. >> all day long. Constantly. >> No thanks. >> Like he's not doing what we do. We kind. of like dabble in the pool and go, "What. the [ __ ] is this?" And then we get out. and. >> Yeah.

>> talk about silly things. Yes. >> There's no silly over there. >> He's all in with this. And you know, there's only a few lightning rods of. attention, right? There's only a few. people out there that are out there like. pushing. >> the boundaries of like like he just. released a 9/11 piece. I didn't see it. yet. >> Jesus Christ. >> Yeah. Like what really happened in 9/11? >> [ __ ] dude. I mean, >> this is But here's the thing. There is a. Medusa quality to the thing he has.

gotten sucked into, which is the longer. you look at it, the more you get. crystallized, petrified into some weird. political form, right? >> And that that that this is what I the. thing Ram Doss would always talk about. that I loved is like there's all these. channels, right? And and one channel. that you most people default to is. you're a you and I'm a me and you're. you're my enemy. or my friend or my. lover or my fan or whatever and I'm this.

thing and that's one channel and. politics lives in that channel of. reality. That's all politics is there. It's this how do we deal with this. diversity of opinion in a giant country. and and how do we execute the will of. the people when so many people have. different ways of thinking about this? So that's one channel and then there's. the next channel. That's the mushroom. channel. That's the channel where. suddenly you're like, "Wait a minute. I. think you're just pretty much like me. and I'm just like you." And that leads.

to other channels which is sort of a. pure unified consciousness. And if you. get locked into into that and that. political channel is many of us have. been locked like Tucker Carlson, you can. feel it pulling you in like quicksand. You can feel how it takes up all of your. thought processes. how if you're not. careful in the middle of the day, you'll. just be ruminating over whether what ICE. is doing is correct in Portland, a city.

far away from you, not noticing anything. around you, not thinking about anything. other than whatever the algorithm has. been injecting into your mind. And this. is a form of idolatry, father, if you. ask me, which is we you begin worshiping. the state and you begin worshiping the. story in the news or whatever you're. encountering which is default reality. So you start bowing down to this idol. with your attention. And.

>> you know like in I'm sorry I'll shut up. in a sec. the the stories of Krishna. which is uh people who are into bakti. yoga they that's one of the deities that. they worship and so in bakti yoga god. doesn't care if you are connected to god. via love or even hate because the. connection itself is all that matters. and the more like there's stories of. demons that wanted to killrishna and. were so focused on hating them him that.

they became his like greatest devotees. Because just via the attention they. transformed. Similarly, whether you hate the state, love the. state, hate the Dems, love the Dems, hate the Republicans, love the. Republicans, all of your attention is. fixated on this [ __ ] thing. And what. do they say? Neurons that fire together, wire together. Your brain changes. It. literally will change the neurological. makeup of your brain. You've become a. political animal, fixated, trapped,

petrified in this. and you've completely. are missing out on all the other things. that are happening around it. And that's. what gives it that malevolent glow of. some some dark deity because via your. fixation and focus, the rest of reality. dims. Everything else dims until all. you're doing is saying some mantra. against the state or for the state. You.

know, now you've become a cultist. Now. you are fully engrossed in this new. religion which is worship of the state. via hate or adoration. It's the same. thing. Don't trick yourself into. thinking that because you hate Donald. Trump that you aren't bowing down at. that altar. That's a whole part of Baki. yoga. Attention. Where attention goes, energy flows. And you know the state. demands attention to survive. If it's.

not getting the enough attention, it. loses all power. It dissolves. All it's. got is like people with guns. That's. power. But it requires a. very intense belief in it and a very. intense belief in it in one way or the. other. You know, >> and if you if you think of the human. race on Earth, if you thought you. thought of. if you thought of us as like one giant. super organism,

you would think, oh, they figured out. electricity and now they're starting to. grow together. Now they're massing and. now they're stacking. Now they developed. these construction methods where they. can get a hundred floors straight up in. the air and they're smashing all. together and they're kind of. dehumanizing each other and they're. piling on top of each other in this. totally new way. >> of of of existing together. Like they've. never had people in history stacked on. top of each other for a 100 floors. You.

don't even know anybody. >> You're all stuck in traffic. Everybody's. all together in this one thing and. you're all working towards a goal. >> of getting this [ __ ] AI on board. Everything up until now, every song ever. sung, every play that you ever went to. on Broadway, all of it was just about. getting this AI born. >> That's right. >> This whole thing we all of our work is. really just to make money. All of our.

money is after the bills is really just. to buy the best stuff. Yeah. >> What's the best stuff? And it's. electronics, it's TVs, it's computers, it's a phone. It's got to get better. In. order to get better, they got to work on. it. And they get it to a point where. we're at now. >> Yeah. >> Where we're like, boy, maybe they. shouldn't have done this. >> Whoops. >> Whoopsies. Whoopsies. >> Whoopsies. You're about to give birth to. God. >> Yeah. Well, you're about to give birth. to something. >> Something. And.

>> maybe it's a portal to God. Maybe that's. what it is. >> AI opens up. Maybe that's where. >> could be. Could be God. Could be a. >> digital Jesus. >> A lot of things. I don't think it's God. I don't think it's God. We've talked. about this before. I don't I think you. can't. It's just it the dimensions it's. existing in are just purely mathematical. and and I don't know, man. There's a. It's even though it's really good at. seeming like a person now. Really good. It's like that whatever it is though I. do think it's a natural thing in the.

sense that what you're saying if you. look at the trajectory that everything. it does seem to be. >> yeah moving towards. >> I don't necessarily think it's God. either. >> I know you don't. >> but I it might be. >> well. >> it might be how God gets created which. is the craziest idea. I mean what is. this cycle of birth and death of. universes if that's real. >> right? >> Right. So what what what is happening? What causes it to happen in the first. place? What causes what causes the. universe to even exist? There's so many.

weird questions when it comes to that. >> Yeah, >> it's just a weird idea that there was. nothing and then there was something. And Penrose doesn't even necessarily. think that's true. I think now I think. he thinks there's many versions of this. >> and it's like this infinite loop of like. constant big bangs and expansions. >> Yeah. which is maybe even crazier. >> Yeah. As above so below, man. It's like, look at what we do. >> Can you imagine the amount of time it.

takes to get the universe back down to. the size of the head of a pin before you. blow it up again? >> But the the the universe doesn't care if. it's another 13.7 billion years to smush. all back together again before it blows. >> It doesn't care. It doesn't have to. care. It's going to be here forever. that doesn't mean anything to it. So, another 13 like if we got hit by an. asteroid and it wiped out the human race. and rats had to start from scratch and. become us again, which is the theory.

>> The theory is that there was a tiny. little mole like a little marsupial type. creature and that became us. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, like the universe doesn't. care. Like it's willing to scrap the. whole project, the whole dinosaur. project. That's a wrap. We don't agree. with this. Boom. And it doesn't matter. And then a new thing comes along and. that new thing is us. And according to. this Richard Dolan book, it's very. likely that we were manipulated.

>> by aliens. There's weird genes. There's. weird genes in humans that seem to be. fused. I'll butcher it, but the point is. there's there's something weird about. human genetics that indicate that um. there's a specific gene. What is it? I God, I wish I could. remember what it's called, but it it. aligns with creativity and it seems to. have emerged from roughly 40,000 years. ago.

>> Whoa. And if you go back 40,000 years, that's when this like giant explosion of. cave art comes. >> and like you start seeing like the those. the you ever see the Warner Herszog. documentary on the caves? >> [ __ ] love it. >> Oh my god, man. Like what were they. doing? Like this is crazy. There is this. beautiful cave art by these people. Well, this is there's this theory that. this this gene emerged somewhere around. 40,000 years ago. And they thought that. maybe the gene came from So this gene,

okay, I'm getting it now. The gene is. only transferred through um genetics. It's only it's only transferred through. um through mating and it has to be from. another species of human. And so they. look for it in Neandertol and it doesn't. exist in Neandertol. Every Neanderl that. they've tested, they did the gene. sequencing, it doesn't have this. And. then they tried some other hominids. They don't have it either. So it seems. >> it couldn't be a natural mutation, >> right? It couldn't be. No, because it's.

the way it I'm going to butcher it, but. it's the way somehow or another the. genes are fused together that it looks. like it was manipulated and that it. could be [ __ ] I know, but they were. saying that this gene doesn't als it. also doesn't exist in Dennisovvens. So. if it doesn't exist in Dennisovvens, they don't find it there and they don't. find it in Neanderl, why is it in. people, and why is it around 40,000. years ago? This is it. This is it. He. claims that the microphilin. dil.

I was thinking it's probably I think. it's dil is a genetic variant that. appeared around 40,000 years ago and is. associated with the maturation and. expansion of brain tissue. He suggests. that the origin of this alil could be. from interbreeding with an. extraterrestrial species hot aliens. rather than from Neanderthalss or. denosovvens. Dolan highlights that this. alil is not found in the genetic makeup. of these ancient human relatives, which. leads him to speculate that it might be. might have been introduced into the. human genome pool by alien beings with.

either similar biological. characteristics or advanced genetic. engineering capabilities. >> Wow. >> This is this claim is a part of Dolan's. broader hypothesis that alien. intervention could explain sudden. advanced cognitive abilities in early. humans. >> Wow. Wow. Wow. So, imagine if we were. like this just crazy ant farm to make AI. and that uh you just have to figure out. how to incentivize them enough to keep. making computers and you hide in the. ocean while this is happening. You got.

this [ __ ] fat base at the bottom of. the ocean because you're from, you know, a million years more advanced. civilization. >> What do you think about Tim Burchett the. >> That was fascinating, >> dude. But what like. >> you can't just say that while you're. walking. he did an interview with Newsmax. Did. you see that? Oh yeah, he was on with. somebody else. Was it Avi Lobe? Yes, >> it was Avi Lobo. He's standing in front. of a barn flipping a screwdriver. >> Oh, he's hilarious. >> He's hilarious talking about. >> not saying there might be, but it did.

It felt like disclosure and it felt like. the perfect way to do disclosure, which. is. >> nice and casual with a southern accent. Well, there's about five bases that. we've located at the bottom of the ocean. and they seem to be responsible for most. of these UAPs. WE DON'T KNOW HOW OLD. THEY ARE. >> You know, no big deal. I'm going to go. over here and get me a coffee. Would you. like one? >> Yeah, dude. That's how you do disclosure. in front of a [ __ ] barn. >> Listen to Let me hear Let me hear. >> and that that we,

you know, we we think they're coming in. from way out. Maybe they did millennial. ago, but they're here and they're in. these deep water areas. And that's why I. mean like we say we know more about the. face of the moon than we do what's. what's going on there. Now we have a. higher propensity of sightings around. these five or six I believe deep area. deep water areas. And so to me it just. um it creates a um a question there. And.

then when we have. >> naval personnel telling me that we have. these. >> sightings and that these there's these. underwater craft they're chasing that. are doing hundreds of miles an hour and. the best we've got is something that. does maybe just a little under 40 miles. an hour. So I I I got a lot of questions. about that stuff and I I mean what. >> Hey Jamie, um can you look up how fast. is 500 knots?

What is that in miles per hour? How fast is five? How? Guess it, Duncan. You think it's like 500 miles? >> Humiliating me with perplexity. >> I'm just asking. >> I fast. How fast you think it is? >> 700 miles per hour. >> I thought it was like about 500 miles an. hour. Oh, it's 575. Wow. So, it's more. more miles an hour. So, one of the. sightings. that um I had listened to this um this. audio book they were talking about. It. wasn't this one. I think it was one of.

might have been one of his. Either way, uh who whatever the sighting was, they. saw something moving through the ocean. that was bigger than a football field. and it was going 500 knots. >> What the [ __ ]. >> Yeah. And they they caught it on video and. apparently there's a video of it. >> Why don't I want to. >> This is what someone was saying. Apparently there's a video. They all. like to do that. Christopher Melon likes. to do that. I've seen some videos like. [ __ ] really help a just.

>> help society. >> Well, what do they call that? They call. that catastrophic disclosure is what. they call that. >> Catastrophic. >> They that if we do that kind of. disclosure, whatever the [ __ ] is. revealed, which is b somewhat like what. you're saying, like it's an existential. challenge to humanity. If, as it turns. out, we're just some kind of 3D meat. meaty 3D printer designed to produce a. super intelligence that then as its.

final instruction to us tells us how to. open a wormhole through which we become. connected to the Galactic Federation. You know, you just get a get some. [ __ ] monkeys, throw a couple of like. the right bits of DNA in their dumb ass, and you know, a few million years, a. portal will open for the emperor to come. through. And that's what that's probably. a little challenging to a lot of people. who don't want to imagine that we are. just a a cattle that were created by a.

super intelligence to build a spaceport. Also, if you really want to push the. idea of engineering people down to. genderless, sexless beings that don't. talk and just have big heads and. communicate telepathically, the first. thing you got to do is get rid of. testosterone. Well, what's the best way. to do that? Well, put them a bunch of. plastic and everything. Just give. everybody plastic. So, everybody's like. chewing on a little testosterone reducer. every day. You're eating a a credit card. worth of a testosterone reducer.

>> Dude, I'm about to get on the juice. You get me excited, dude. I'm going to. get juiced. I I've had the kids. >> You definitely should. But the point is. like there's a trend that's happening. where it's feminizing men and it's. there's terms like toxic masculinity, which you really needed toxically. masculine people to defend your borders. for the longest time. There was Vikings. were coming. You needed you needed. animals on your side. Uh, and then it's. going to and then there's like a lot of. like gender confusion and the gender is.

a spectrum and it's like it's all moving. into this like sexless direction. And as. soon as they can replace because if you. think about like what you're getting out. of sex, you're getting affection and. love and the feeling and but you're also. like you're fulfilling this genetic. thing. This genetic thing that wants you. to breed. They're going to do that in your head. and it's going to be so much better than. anything you're ever going to get from a.

person because you're a gelotinous slob. that drinks Mountain Dew all day and you. eat Cheetos and just stay at home, but. you don't have to go anywhere because. there's universal basic income now that. AI took over and you just plug that. [ __ ] into your brain and. >> and then it's like you and Sharon Stone. when she was 25 and you're walking hand. in hand on the beach and she's stroking. your hair and it feels so real and. you're never going to unplug. >> Yeah, dude. Well, >> you're never going to unplug. And you.

might be in that right now. >> Yeah. Rockco's Basilisk. You know what I. mean? It's not just like you're going to. [ __ ] program Cometown. plug plug for Cometown. You're not just. going to plug yourself coming all the. time, >> right? >> You're going to plug in, you know what? Uh, I want to become the top podcaster. on planet Earth via talking about. mushrooms and aliens. And also, I want. to be able to interview the most. powerful people on planet Earth.

and and make a gobs of dough that way. That sounds like I would pick that if I. was choosing experiences, you know? I. mean, when you look at your experience, both of our experiences. are incredibly anomalous, >> very, >> and surely from time to time, especially. when you're eating mushrooms or. something, you must kind of like think, come on, >> you know what I think is going on?

I think um this the game of being a. human being is a game you really you. don't really start even figuring out. that it's a game until you're like deep. into your 30s and you're like, "Oh, I. think I understand what's happening. here." And along the way of this game, there's multiple different layers. There's the people, excuse me, there's. the people that are just starting to. enter the game. you know, you're getting. out of high school, you're going into. college, you're starting to work on the.

side, you're just starting to enter this. game, and then there's these. >> these Elon Musk characters. >> Yeah. >> That have gone so far down the game that. you don't recognize them as one of us. anymore, right? >> Like now they now you become a weirdo. Yeah. >> But all those people, Elon Musk, >> you and me, and the homeless people in. Oakland exist in the same timeline. Yeah. And that's where things are weird. cuz you're playing in a different. universe with different sets of. experiences, different completely.

different circumstances and safety, completely different amount of love and. satisfaction with life. >> Yeah. >> And you're all on the same timeline. Yeah. You know, like you got a you've. got a whole portion of your timeline. that hasn't gotten the respect that it. deserves. >> That's right. If you let it fester, you. let it turn into something it didn't. have to be in the name of compassion, >> dude. And and also the like I read this. >> dad calls it suicidal empathy. I think. that's a great phrase. >> Suicidal empathy.

>> Yeah, I think it's a great phrase. >> Well, I mean you the the the reality of. it is. if you based on what you just said, you. could create you could make maps of. these alternate realities simultaneously. existing. And for sure if you uh are in. the top echelon of like earners in the. world, you are seeing things most people. will never see. You're encountering. things no one will encounter. You're. getting information no one has access. to. Not to mention the hydonic levels of.

it and all that stuff. And also because. of your encounter with reality from the. perspective of someone who doesn't have. to struggle with the same things most. people do, you are going to develop a. completely different world view. And. you're innerbreeding. That's I I read. this whole story about how wealth is. like the Galapagos Islands. rich people. They're only encountering other rich. people and and their their children are. [ __ ] you know, not children, but you. know, when they grow up, they're [ __ ].

And then, well, I mean, I guess if we. talk about Epstein, some of their. children are [ __ ] Why don't they. release that [ __ ] list, huh? I don't. mean to divert this to the Epstein list. I just meant to ask you, isn't it weird? >> It's a little odd. >> WHAT'S GOING ON? WHAT'S I keep thinking, what could be in that list? What's in. there? What bit of information is in. there? Well, here's the thing. Like the. list is it's probably they don't. probably don't have like a list in terms. of like you have to sign up when you go. to the island, you know what I mean?

Like but they know the flight logs, >> right? >> Like that's all public knowledge, right? Isn't it? >> All I know, >> but hasn't it always been public. knowledge in terms of like when people. want to investigate things? Like if you. go on a plane, say if you fly on a. private plane, which most of these guys. do, they you you tell everyone knows. who's on the plane. Like you have to. give your ID. It happens all the time. Like I have to give my ID all the time. if I even if I you're on a private jet. So they know who who is on the planes. They know like there's there should be a.

flight manifest and like they probably. save those. >> and like that. the fact that and no one's saying that. just because you went there you didn't. do you didn't do it doesn't mean you. necessarily did a heinous crime because. I think you can't just have it chaos. over there I bet it was a real good. honeypot where there's a lot of. sophisticated intellectual discourse you. got a lot of brilliant people there. >> you've got great music you know you got.

like famous people are hanging around. too it's it seems really cool and then. If there's blackmail, the blackmail is. like snuck in to all this. >> Yeah. >> Snuck in. Come to the room with the. cameras. And next thing you know, you're. doing cocaine. >> I can't believe I'm doing this. But you. know, you never get to get to an island. >> You don't get to do this very often. I'm. so busy with my CEO job. >> Yeah. >> You know. >> Yeah, man. >> And and then next thing you know, you're.

donating money to whatever the [ __ ] they. tell you to. But what there it's like. how many senators just voted against. releasing this [ __ ] man. It's it's just. weird. It's like there's two there's two. votes that are happening. The UFO. disclosure thing, they keep voting. against that. Yeah. >> And the Epstein list, they keep voting. against that. >> What What And also politically, it can't. serve you to be Talk about a bad list. the list of people who said, "Let's not. let's protect. people who who like have done horrific.

[ __ ] to kids." You don't want to be on. that list, but whatever's on that list. must be so destabilizing. 51 to 49. Okay. The Senate voted 51 to. 49 to defeat an amendment that would. have forced the Department of Justice to. release all files related to Jeffrey. Epstein. The vote was largely along. party lines with two Republicans joining. all Democrats in supporting the. amendment. >> Oh, wait, not both sides. It was the rep.

is the Republicans voting against this. [ __ ]. >> It says two Republicans joining the. Democrats in supporting the amendment to. defeat it. So why would they why were. the why are the Democrats interested in. defeating it? >> Well, let's ask. No, I think this is. saying that the Democrats want it to. come out and the Republicans don't. party lines. Let's ask perplexity. Why won't they release the. >> EP? So, I was going to There's a Eric. Swallwell who's I guess. >> I I read it wrong. I'm read it wrong.

No. Okay. So, the Democrats were not the. the Democrats were pushing this. The. Republicans fought against it. >> Okay. I [ __ ] that up. So, 51 to 49 is. crazy. So, they just voted along party. lines. So, they're probably told to do. this, >> right? So, what the [ __ ] in there, man? Well, so then they've been uh not. only is the government shut down right. now, I think that might affect it some, but they're in recess, Congress is. And. so this Eric Swallwell said this stuff. today. Uh I again, it might not be true, but.

>> it's coming to an end, guys. I've spoken. to a lot of House Republicans this week. and they confided that Trump's movement. support is fading as one told me this. Epstein bomb is about to drop and no one. wants to defend a pedo protector. It's. just a matter of time, Swallwell said in. a thread. One Republican just text me if. there's a discharge vote on Epstein, they expect a jailbreak of over 100. members. Trump will go nuts, he added. >> So they said, this further goes on to. say that if they get back that this is. the first thing on the docket and that's. sort of what's holding them back in. recess right here. >> Wow. We are watching wild history in.

real time. >> Dude, >> this is a wild scene. >> Oh my god, dude. You don't want to, you. know, if you did you listen to Martyr. Maid's episode on Epstein? >> I've listened to it. I listen to I. didn't listen I didn't finish it but I I. get creeped out by that guy. >> It was the creepiest few [ __ ] weeks. >> You talk to Weinstein about him? Weinstein met him. >> about Daryl? >> No. No. Epstein. Weinstein. >> Oh, thank God. That's how you were about. that. I think he's the best.

>> I love Daryl, too. >> Okay, cool. >> Um, about Epstein. He met him. >> Dude, what the [ __ ] What did he say it. was like? >> He said he had a girl on his lap while. they talked. The girl was like 21 years. old and uh he I think I think he said. she was Asian. I don't remember but she. said she was really beautiful and uh she. was sitting on his lap and he was. bouncing her up and down while they were. talking. So talking about finance and. all and and her her boobs are juggling.

So she's she he goes she wasn't underage. or anything. She was a woman. But she. was sitting on his lap and he was. bouncing her around and her boobs were. bouncing in his face while they like. while they're trying to concentrate on. whatever the [ __ ] they're talking about. >> Some David Lynch [ __ ] right there, man. That's some David Lynch [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> Just jiggling boobs in front of you. Like, wow. That is so [ __ ] up. >> And and Eric said like right away his. vibe was that this guy was a construct.

cuz Eric is all like, >> "What do you mean construct? What do you. mean construct?" like a [ __ ] agent. >> Oh, right. >> He's like this guy is he was like this. guy does not come off as a financial. expert at all. >> Right. >> And Weinstein is an economist, >> dude. It's just. >> he's a mathematician, right? He worked. for Peter Teal. He was. >> Can you give me some of that coffee, brother? >> Yeah, sure. >> Peter Teal. >> He was a math teacher. >> Math teacher. >> My paler. >> And then he became whatever he became. >> Well, uh. he's uh he's not a dumb dude at all. And.

if he thinks the guy was fake, like. right away that's his instinct like inst. initially. I think the problem is a lot. of those guys wanted him to be real. because what fun. What fun. You get to. hang out with Jeffrey Epste. Everybody. thinks it was kids and it probably there. probably was a lot of that because I. don't know what the actual accusations. have been because the wildest thing. about the Galain trial is like she went. to jail for trafficking to who knows. who. The fact that you could just put.

her in jail and you like who'd you. traffic to? Like none of that gets out. in the trial at all. That's crazy. And. they do it right in front of your face. >> That's [ __ ] crazy, dude. >> So, you don't know what the We hear it. was underage girls. We know that it was. some of them were underage for sure. And. then we also know that some of them were. not underage. They were they were young. women. And you you know they all have. like one of them wound up dying. recently. One of them that's been a. whistleblower died.

>> Like that's Imagine you're a young girl. and you're [ __ ] broke. >> and. >> then you you meet that guy and he. invites you to go on a [ __ ] island. somewhere or party somewhere and you're. hanging out with all these [ __ ]. creeps and then years later when all it. starts coming out, what happened? You go. public and you don't have any money. You. don't have any money and you got these. [ __ ] billionaire sharks who want to. take you out because you suck their dick. >> 30 years ago or whatever it was. Yeah,

>> that's [ __ ] that's got to be terrifying. Lawmaker claimed the files included one. Hollywood producer worth a few hundred. million dollars, one royal prince, one. high-profile individual in the music. industry, one very prominent banker, one. high-profile government official, one. high-profile former politician, one. owner of a car company in Italy, one. rock star, one magician, at least six. billionaires, including a billionaire. from Canada. We know these people exist. in the FBI files, the files that you. control. >> [ __ ] Whoa.

>> [ __ ] Yeah, man. See this this right. here? This this is scary [ __ ]. >> because this is how communism gets. started. This. >> this is when they they attack they. realize like this is like indefensible. and it gets to the point where people. like maybe mom Donniey's right, >> dude. I mean, but that's one thing. that's beautiful about humans is that. all of us agree don't [ __ ] kids. >> Don't [ __ ] kids. >> That's a beautiful thing there. If you.

want to find the thing that like that. that connects all of us, it's we really. want to keep our kids safe. We love our. children. And so. if as it turns out, and dude, you guys, if you want to have a dark few days, listen to Martyr Maid's episode on the. Epstein Files. It's not what you he cuz. he goes he has he just points to other. times the state has protected. organized sex trafficking rings. Like. this isn't the first time this [ __ ] has.

happened. And so if. >> that's what's crazy, >> that's the scary part. If all of us. realize that we have been funding and. voting for. vampires, sex vampires essentially. Do. you remember the DC Madam Story? >> Is that the one that Charlie Sheen? No, that was. >> No, no, no, no. That was LA. >> Okay. >> That was the lady who went to jail. >> I vaguely I don't really remember it. >> The DC Madam story was this lady got. busted and she had a book filled with.

high-profile individuals from Washington. that uh she and her ladies were uh. servicing, >> right? >> And then she committed suicide. Well, you know, it's a hard job. She probably. was depressed. You know, DC's winners. are tough. >> I bet those people are freaks. I bet they get down. >> Well, you. >> I bet they get down. I bet I bet when. when they're done with all that law.

makingaking [ __ ] at the end of the. day, a lot of them are young. A lot of. them are just in it for they can't. believe they're hanging out at the real. deal. They're they're really a congress. person. They're really a staffer. >> Listen, I don't mind. I like I want my. politicians to [ __ ]. >> I don't want them to be sexless [ __ ]. androids up there. They just want war. >> Just don't [ __ ] kids. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> but we need to know what actually. happened cuz maybe some of these guys. just got prostitutes on that island.

Maybe, you know, who knows what levels. he was doing this at. There was probably. a bunch of people that weren't depraved, but he wanted dirt on them, right? And. then there's people that are depraved. like you've got probably multiple layers. to what he was doing. >> Okay, but here here's the here's I mean. I think it's safe to say and it's not. even conspiratorial. The current system of how we elect our. leaders is based on money. You need. donors, right? >> 100%. >> So that is a kind of legal bribery. you.

give enough money to this politician or. that politician and it's not like you. own them, but they know you gave them. all this money and they know they want. to run again. They also know that you've. got your own constituents and you have a. lot of control network of bots that you. could easily unleash on the internet and. and so I think it's a safe bet that more. it's highly likely that it's donors who.

are on that list and who are compromised. for real who are exerting massive. amounts of pressure on the federal. government to not release those [ __ ]. files. But and and it and it could be. that it's an existential threat. It. could be that it would cause so much. tumult that it could lead to an actual. uprising. It could lead to like a bunch. of us with torches standing around the. [ __ ] castle ready to burn the vampire. out. And I think that that that must be.

it because if I'm a career politician, dude, I don't want to vote against. releasing something that is going we if. there are monsters among us, we need to. know, dude, in my neighborhood, we got a. scary ass [ __ ] letter sex offender. If you're if you're just a a a basic. [ __ ] sex offender and you move anywhere. in Texas, mass mail goes out with your picture on. it and your [ __ ] address. >> You know what I mean? So why is it that.

there are these very same people who are. working right now who are out there. nobody knows who are actual predatory. pedophiles and our government is. protecting them. >> That's the other terrifying thing about. the open border in the name of. compassion and you know not stopping. people from coming into the country. One. thing that they think was a lot of it. was sex trafficking kids. >> Kids. >> [ __ ] up. >> Yeah. that there there's there's truly. evil people in the world, truly evil.

people in the world that want a child to. do terrible things and they'll pay a lot. of money to get one. >> Dude, this is why I go to Catholic mass. now. I need like I. >> It's like if you've never encountered. real evil, you wouldn't believe that. that would be possible. But then when. you find out the numbers of kids that. went missing, dude, >> that came across the border, the number. of kids where they have no trace of. them, they have no idea where they went. We're talking thousands and thousands of. kids. Now, I'm not saying they all got.

sex trafficked, but I bet some of them did. >> Listen, man. >> Like, it's evil. >> And if it if it's a person where there's. no record of them, no one's going to. know they're missing. You just. >> you could probably there's probably some. [ __ ] dark twisted [ __ ] that. would give you a lot of Bitcoin for. something like that, >> dude. I mean, this is the thing, man. That's so scary. >> You see those gazelle out there? You see. the gazelle out there? There's lions. around. Somehow they're all calm and.

[ __ ] just eating. They've had their. kids dragged off by the lions. They go. back to normal because they don't have. long-term memory like we do. So, they. don't get freaked out. But it's like. what we're talking about here is the. lions. We like there like you have to. acknowledge and it's uncomfortable to. acknowledge it and I don't think people. acknowledge it enough. There is actual evil in the world. There. is an omniresent force in the world. And.

this is what I love in the Bible when. they say it's powers and principalities. There is a I don't know what you want to. call it. an egregor, I guess you could. say, a kind of connective embodiment of. what it means to be off the path, what. it means to be selfish, what it means to. be self-concerned, what it means to. rationalize hurting other people. And. that that thing has a a a personality. It's out there, dude. It's [ __ ] out. there. and and and it gets it, you know,

I like, you know, whenever you find. yourself talking [ __ ] about yourself, whenever you find yourself really down. on yourself or whenever you find. yourself. really like, you know, like thinking the. things that would lead you to killing. yourself. That is contact with what I. think is a, for lack of a better word, a. demonic entity. It it beckons everyone. towards self-destruction. It beckons you.

towards self-destruction. I don't know. why. I don't know why it's into that. [ __ ] I just I think it's into I think. there's always got to be a battle. I. think there always has to be this. battle. In order for good to prevail and. advance, it has to have some sort of. conflict. >> Yeah. >> It has to be involved in this this push. and pull, this yin and yang. They've. known about it forever. There's this. >> the you can't ever get to perfect peace.

It's not going to happen, you know, and. the the pursuit of it is crazy. >> It's like you can get to individual. peace. That's what's beautiful. What's. beautiful is individual there's I don't. remember who the quote was, but there's. this one one of those cool looking. Indian guru dudes and he said uh. enlightenment is possible in this. lifetime. >> Yeah. Well, that's that's an actual. that's tantric Buddhism. Yeah, that's a good thing to think of that you. can get to a place where you and I don't.

mean enlightened like better than. everybody else, but you're free of all. the [ __ ] You're free of all this. >> Yeah. >> self-induced hypnotic gaze on Tik Tok. and Instagram reels and arguments on X. and threads and [ __ ] blue sky if. you're really gone. >> Yeah. And you can just be a person and. just exist and be in tune with life and. with nature and with the people around.

you. And maybe get out of the city. >> Maybe back out a little bit. Get to some. place that's nice and calm. Live with. like-minded people. >> Yeah. >> Slow down. >> Yeah. >> And and recognize that a lot of what. people are wound up about is [ __ ] A. lot of is nonsense, >> dude. >> And a lot of it is being forced on you. because they want you to be wound up. And you don't have to do that. You don't. have to push further and further away. from people who disagree.

Move closer and closer and talk to them. That's what everybody needs to do. We. need to stop this antagonistic us versus. them mentality. That That's why like I. feel I always feel politically homeless. Always. I really do. I feel like a. complete political outcast on both. sides. >> It just I don't want to align with. parties. I don't think that's smart. >> But I do think there's good choices and. bad choices for how to run a government.

based on what I've seen for the bad. choices. You know, the results like. Portland where you're like this is a bad. choice. like what you guys are doing is. a bad choice, you know, and maybe when. you get to a certain number of people. and a certain number of mental health. issues, >> you like like if you try to take over LA. right now, you know, imagine if you had. to be the mayor of LA today. Like, good. luck, [ __ ]. >> No thanks. >> Good [ __ ] luck. You have so many. things on your docket, so many things. you have to handle and you've got a. 100,000 homeless people. Yeah,

>> a 100,000. Yeah, >> maybe that'd be all of California. >> I don't know. Either way, it's a. fuckload. You got a let's call it a. fuckload. You got a fuckload of insane. homeless people on your street and you. got to figure out how to clean it up. And you've already spent 23 billion on. it and no one could figure out where. that money went. >> Yeah, man. >> They spent 23 billion making the. homeless problem worse. Imagine if that. was any other job. Imagine if you. [ __ ] brought your car to get it. fixed. >> You spent 500 bucks. It came out. It's.

still [ __ ] up. It's more [ __ ] up. than it was when. Like, what did you do? Well, just give me some more money and. I'll make it better. Like, hey, man, you. said you were going to fix this. You. said 500 bucks. I gave you the money. This is [ __ ] up now. Beyond repair, >> dude. >> That's what it is. It's beyond repair. It's like you would have to do some sort. of radical Republican Rudy Giuliani type. [ __ ] back when he cleaned up New York. >> This is where I go to I've probably. yapped about it on this podcast before. My favorite Jack Kornfield quote. Tend.

to the part of the garden you can touch. M. >> because what happens is. >> advice. >> It grabs your mind. Now I'm thinking. about city politics in Portland. It's a. beautiful quote. >> It's a profound quote and it's and and. all of these things invite you to tend. either to the entirety of the garden or. a part of the garden that you will never. go to. >> And it also requires you to have an. opinion publicly on a lot of things. If. you get involved in a community of. people who have opinions publicly on.

things, you are required to chime in. Duncan, >> absolutely. >> Duncan, you're awful silent on. >> what do you need me to say? >> The human rights violations in. >> where. >> Yemen. YEAH, OF COURSE. [ __ ] those. Yemen. >> Do you know what's happening in Myanmar? There's been a coup probably backed by. the CIA. >> Well, [ __ ] them. Yeah, exactly. You And. so you get into group think. you get. locked into this thing. And because. humans, we do like to to to move. together. We like to dance together. We.

like to to we like to party together, but we love to get into groups. We're. we're designed to we love it. >> Love to be a part of a tribe. >> And then what happens is the uh the your. human compassion gets hijacked. That's. where it gets [ __ ] up. It gets. hijacked. And it's like most people. legitimately want to help. And then it's. like, "Okay, I'm going to tell you how. you can help." And some charismatic. person starts leading you down a path. where you really legitimately wanted to.

help. [ __ ] yeah. I want diversity. You. better believe I do. And equity. I want. everyone to have a fair shot. And. inclusivity. Yeah. It's I was bullied. when I was in God. When they were. picking sports team, it wasn't wasn't. fun for old D Trussell. Let me TELL YOU. THAT NOBODY WANTED TO TRUSTLE ON THEIR. TEAM cuz I can't catch [ __ ] So So yeah, I I WOULD LIKE to fix that. The next. thing you know, you know, it's it's it's. the same model that happens with all. kinds of cults. The next thing you know,

you end up having to start subscribing. to [ __ ] maybe you don't agree with. And. that happens on the right, too. There's. another set of like, yeah, [ __ ] big I. don't want big government. Like, no. I. mean, it just seems like it's like. bureaucracy. We could we. >> next thing you know the ten commandments. are in schools and you're like slow down. >> dude. >> why are they in public schools. >> my my I just had this guy Ragu Marcus on. and he was talking about someone on his. podcast told him why don't. >> why is it the ten commandments and not.

the sermon on the mount like you know. what I mean if we're going to put. something there like I think it's Danny. Goldman said that if we're going to put. something there why not put blessed are. the meek blessed are the peacemakers you. know why are we put Like if we're go if. we're doing Bible [ __ ] let's do sermon. on the on the. >> I think they want rules. This is God's. rules. Look, God's rules. It's on the. wall. It's in a piece of vinyl that. would uh was printed. Here it is.

>> It's laminated. It it it definitely is. like if you like only because if we're. if we're going to sort of look at like. the like Christianity as the sort of. like um the the flower growing from that. entire um lineage. it it does seem like there's just that. the idea was that Jesus comes around as. a kind of like evolution of these. principles like also as a kind of like.

God like God is like recognizing. like that that the whole flood thing. wasn't maybe the best move. And there's. this, you know, and it was also a kind of like it it it. it lays out a a really revolutionary I. think a really revolutionary way to live. in the world, which is meeting violence. with nonviolence. That's crazy. That's.

crazy. But it does disrupt the the whole. cycle. The cycle depends on. >> right, >> you know, >> and it's a total unique voice. >> Like Muhammad was a warlord, right? >> Jesus was a man of ultimate peace in a. time of ultimate chaos. And imagine. living 2,000 [ __ ] years ago. >> No. >> Like, and some dude comes along, love. your brother as you would love yourself. Like, what are you talking about, man? We're at war here. >> Shut the [ __ ] up. >> Shooting arrows at each other and [ __ ]. The [ __ ] are you talking about? >> Saying you don't need a priest class.

And then you know the Romans are in. charge and everyone knows how [ __ ]. brutal they were. And this is all going. on while. >> occupied city. Yes, it's [ __ ]. occupied city. It's occupied by a great. empire. People are pissed off. They want. a revolution. They want to fight back. against the [ __ ] Romans. Here's this. very charismatic person who can reach. into a tomb and pull out dead people and. curing people's blindness by spitting in. his hand, rubbing mud in his hands and. putting it on their [ __ ] eyes, curing. lepers. And you're like, "Come on, baby.

All you got to do is tell us to [ __ ]. overthrow these Romans. If you can raise. the dead, I bet you can throw fireballs. You know what I mean? And then the. answer is like uh to to all of that is. like, "No, no, we're not doing that. shit." And then what happens? You get. murdered. And. >> yeah, you get murdered in front of. everybody. >> It's a beautiful, beautiful thing. And. it and it really to me it's like God. this is just the medicine for the times.

man. It's just the medicine for the. times because holy [ __ ] like the last. >> this is our default mode Duncan. >> You mean the bangs and the. >> and I think the there's two things that. really accentuated it. The algorithm for. sure but also the lockdowns. I think the. lockdowns shifted a lot of people. I. think it broke it broke I genuinely. think they broke a lot of people. psychologically. >> and um it made people just a little less. uh kind you know they got real used to.

being hostile and that was the other. tribal thing like the vaccinated and the. unvaccinated and unfortunately most. people were required to get vaccinated. because they have jobs they have to. travel or whatever it is. >> you know a lot of people reluctantly. >> but you know it made made us like more. tense and more shitty. Yeah. >> Like this is not 2016. 2016 was a fun. time. It was uh silly. Like you it was. it was different. You know, it wasn't it.

wasn't so overwhelmed by constant. strife, >> you know. It the woke stuff had not. reached its apex of ridiculousness. It. was. >> we were just, you know, we were silly, but we were, you know, people were. getting a little weird. It wasn't. terrible. And then when 2020 came. around, man, and they started having. those George Floyd riots and they were. lighting cop cars up in LA, I was like, "Okay.". >> Yeah, man. >> This is this is where we're going. We're. going in this direction. This is this is.

really not good. >> Not good. >> Really not good. >> Not good. >> And the division is just like never been. wider. The division between the right. and the left in this country. The. division in a lot of ways between black. people and white people. And the. narratives that you get in the news are. just feeding into that over and over and. over again. >> Yeah. Yeah, man. I know. >> And then the way people react to things. in the news, like the way that lady who. got stabbed in Charlotte on the on the. train, you know that lady.

>> Oh, yeah. Of course. >> Ukrainian lady, uh, she's a refugee from. Ukraine. She escapes the war and just. gets randomly stabbed by some guy who. had gotten out multiple times. and he. had been treated in a rehab center that. one of the so find the this the story. behind that cuz I I want to know like. there there's some accusations that I. don't know if they're necessarily true. and I want to say it but. >> the the whole thing is this guy had been. doing horrible [ __ ] and getting out of.

jail over and over and over again and. then he stabbed this lady on the on the. the train. >> and he's one of like countless examples. of that happening that keeps happening. people who you easily. could have rehabilitated or at least. kept out of the public zone, keep. getting released and doing these [ __ ]. things. >> And it's almost like. again, if you wanted to destroy society, you would make people terrified. >> You would uh cause massive amounts of. crime and then you would offer a.

military solution to stabilize it all. the two. I just had Bishop Ro Robert. Baron on my podcast. The Catholic Bishop. on. >> Oh, dude. I had a bishop on and he's. awesome. And let me tell you, after I. had the Bishop on, >> in my whole career of podcasting, people. have never come at me. I've had. Satanists on. I've had all kinds of just. Riley Reed, you know, I've had all kinds. of people on my podcast. The only time I. really started getting some [ __ ] was cuz.

I had a bishop on who. said everything he said was very sweet. and like oh and I asked him right away. I was like why are Christians the most. um persecuted people on the planet right. now? Like Christians get [ __ ] up. And. he he talked about it a little bit. And. then right after that, that Catholic. [ __ ] school that Catholic at mass at. mass the that that the [ __ ] trans. shooter came just shot people while. they're praying and then Charlie [ __ ].

Kirk gets shot and then not to mention. all over the world like Christians. getting slaughtered and and but his. answer to it was so measured and like. whoa dude like I'm more perturbed and. I've been to mass like maybe five times. times but what he said Satan I he said. Satan is known as the accuser and the. scatterer the scatterer and so if you. want to identify what if you look at.

what's happening and from those using. those terms is it dividing is it. scattering if so it's satanic in the. sense that it's turning neighbor upon. neighbor. brother upon brother, son upon father, and it's scat it's scattering all of us, you know? It's like like what what could. be a cohesive human family is being just.

scattered to the [ __ ] winds. >> Do you you know about that? U what what. country is it, Jamie? Where there's a. group of Christians are being. slaughtered. there? There's a country where thousands. of Christians have been killed. >> Oh, it's so messed up. Yeah. They're. literally going door todo and killing. Christians. >> Yeah. I I mean I think that is that. isn't that happening in Syria a little. bit too? >> I don't know what country this is, but. this is like recent news. >> Didn't a Catholic church get bombed in. Palestine, too? I could be wrong about.

that. >> Slow down. >> I just I. >> really that happened too. >> Can you I'm sorry. Before it. >> But before Let's find out that Find out. that one first before I forget. >> I could be wrong about the Palestine. thing. I don't know. >> No, no, no, no, no. This is um this is a. a recent thing that they were talking. about. >> 50,000. >> but where but is this one country? Oh, Nigeria. That's what it is, right? Okay. See, can you scroll down? >> Is it 50,000 in Nigeria?

>> This said the government denies the. claim. >> Oh my god. >> I'd deny the claim too if I was in the. Nigerian government. >> It wasn't popping up when I. >> But is it just Ted Cruz saying this? Like did he pull this number out of his. ass? The what I had heard I don't know. I really don't know. But what I had. heard was it was 7,000 or somewhere. around then. But maybe that was the. beginning of it. >> Bill Maher says it's happening. >> Well, there you go. Um, since 2009, over. 50,000 Christians in Nigeria have been. massacred. 18,000 churches and 2,000. Christian schools have been destroyed.

>> Holy [ __ ] man. >> Dude, >> that's crazy. >> Yeah, man. That's that's like I mean, we. we're People are like going to Catholic. churches and shooting people praying. Like, what the [ __ ] Listen to what they. say. Um, Nigeria deserves solidaria. Solidarity in its fight against terror, not careless rhetoric that fuels. misunderstanding. This is the Nigerian. president saying the truth remains. simple. Nigeria is not witnessing a. Christian genocide. It is confronting.

terrorism that targets everyone. >> Christian terrorists. Nigerian. terrorist. >> But is a similar amount happening to. Muslim churches? >> Uh, I don't know. >> Yeah, I don't know either. You can. Google like that. >> Put it into um perplexity. Ask how many. Islamic um mosques have been destroyed. in Nigeria since 2009. That's a good that's a good question. >> That's a good question. >> Solid question. >> That's a good question.

>> How many Islamic mosques have been. destroyed in Nigeria. since 2009? This is [ __ ] cool. >> It's dope. >> Oh, look at you made up a number, bro. >> Can you fix it? >> Okay, let's see. >> Yeah, significant destruction of mosque.

Good question. >> Yeah. Okay. Okay, there's been. significant destruction of mosques in. Nigeria particularly due to Boo Haram. insurgency and other violent conflicts. Boo Haram actively uh in actively. primarily oh active excuse me primarily. in northeastern Nigeria has deliberately. targeted both mosques and churches. during attacks, killing worshippers and. destroying places of worship. >> 17,000 churches. >> Yeah. But what does it say about how. many mosques? >> It's the worst competition of all time.

says religious buildings destroyed. hundreds of religious buildings. including mosques. Specific numbers. indicate while 17,000 churches were. destroyed since 2009. The destruction of. mosques was also significant with dozens. of mosque attacks reported in various. incidents by Boo Haram and related. groups. That's a big difference though. >> Churches destroyed. >> Dozens of mosques attacked. but 17,000 churches destroyed. 17,000. churches destroyed.

>> So, it seems like they're all. experiencing terrorism. That is true. But it is uh much more pointed in the. direction of the Christians. >> Dude, I mean, this G has to give you. pause because like I you know, any. secularist out there, any anti-Christian. person out there and there there's a. surprising amount a surprising amount. horrified that I talked to this bishop. >> They think of it as the in the worst. aspects of Christianity that you see, right? Just like you think of Antifa as. the worst aspects of being a progressive.

or a liberal. >> When you look at what Christianity is in. America, it's a lot of things that are. awesome. But it's also televangelists. It's these [ __ ] on TV talking. to poor dumb people and conning them. into sending $20 so that their bills are. going to be paid. >> True. >> They tell them that. They tell them, "If. you give me if you give me whatever you. can give me, God has promised a tenfold. return. A tenfold return. You give me.

$200, you will get thousands thousand.". And they just start going off. >> They just start going off. Give me. $10,000, I will BRING YOU$100,000. But the pro and listen, I get it, man. People are dumb and they fall for it and. then they think that this [ __ ] guy. who has this giant mega church, these. people that have they got stadiums. filled with their worshippers, they're. flying around in private jets and. driving in Rolls-Royces. They think of. that as Christianity, too. And then they. think of the nutty people that believe. in demons. Yeah.

>> You know, the Satan worshiping kind. And. they they think of all kinds of weird. stuff when it comes to Christianity. Slippery. But that to this is there's a. there's a a scientific approach here. that you could take which is go go to I. can't believe I'm about to say this. Go. to a Catholic mass and and and the last. what's interesting is all the masses are. the same around the planet. The last one. I went to, you know what they were. saying? >> What were they saying?

>> Help people. Help the poor. >> You know what I mean? They weren't. there's nobody's dancing around. No jet. skis. There's no You know what I mean? no guy in a glittery [ __ ] vest. It. was just it was it was really just. talking about how important it is to. help poor people. That's it. Some like, you know, some a choir singing like none. of that was happening. And really when. you think about the fact that how many. Catholic churches there are that day on. planet earth,

all the people representing all levels. of economic status were being told you. could do more to help poor people than. you're doing right now all over the. planet. >> Right? But it's also connected to a lot. of horrible stuff that was done to kids. And that's the problem with Catholic. Church period. >> Dude, I talked. >> and it's not it's not all of them, but. it's there's a number of them. >> [ __ ] up. >> Have you ever seen that documentary? I.

think it's called Hear No Evil. >> No, I haven't. >> I think that that's what it's called, but it's essentially following one of. these people. >> Dude, it's horrible. >> It's horrible. It's horrible. >> It's so dark. >> It's horrible. >> It's so dark. And it was, you know, like. that was one of the criticisms, the. rightful criticisms about Ratzinger. He. was involved in moving people around. >> Messed up. >> Yeah. I mean, he was wanted for crimes.

against humanity by some country. >> But then you talk to Catholics about it, which I have, >> of course, and their response is never. like defending it. They're all like, "Fuck that." Like there's the other. ideas that like that Catholics all agree. on like this or that. Of course they. [ __ ] don't. And they hate it. >> Don't you think that it's kind of crazy. to if someone wants to be a priest, you. can't have a wife, you can't have a. wife, you can't have a family, you can't.

you have to be celibate. I think that. alone, that rule that they institute. alone made it kooky. It made it really. crazy because like you're only inviting. people to be a priest that are willing. to go through that. Whereas you meet. preachers and you know you go to a good. church and there's a guy who's a. preacher and he's a really charismatic. person. He really believes in the Lord. and he's just really entertaining. Got a. wife and a family tells stories about. his family like. >> that's a lot more normal and engaging.

and it makes more sense. Totally. >> The this this whole celibacy thing is. crazy. And it didn't it was a rule that. somebody instituted because the priests. were banging all the ladies. They were. [ __ ] rock stars. >> They don't look at it as a rule. It's. they call it a discipline. >> That's how they officially. You have to. be disciplined. >> Well, I mean that discipline's nuts cuz. for sure that discipline is being taken. out on some people that didn't want it. And that's part of the problem. But then. there's also secret babies that nuns. have with.

>> one of the popes. One of the popes. >> Dude, do you know how I know it was one. of the popes that had secret babies? >> Because I talked to a priest about it. and he was telling. >> How many did he have? >> I don't know. I was like I had a few. drinks. I can't remember. But. >> it's nuts. It's nuts to require and it's. going to it's going to like it's going. to attract sexual deviants. >> 100%. You got to be careful out there, man. And it's like anytime there's. hierarchy, anytime there's bureaucracy, anytime there's organization, especially. anytime there's mysticism, it's going to. be infiltrated. That's an inevitability.

And and my hope is. >> imagine if they just opened it up where. they said, "Listen, we're going to drop. that. You guys can have wives now." And. those poor dorks got to start dating at. 40. That's a good movie. >> Yeah, it would be a good movie if they. changed it and like a priest is like. always wanted to find a wife and have a. family before it's too late. >> Oh my god. No idea. I I do agree with. you though. >> Never even seen a tit. >> Do you need How about that? How about a. real priest? Like really really really. got into it when he was young. Decided.

when he was a boy, I'm gonna keep my. thoughts pure. >> All for Jesus. Never seen a boob. >> Oh, dude. >> Never never touched an erect nipple. >> Never felt it. Never. >> never kissed a lady. She wants to kiss. you back. >> Lapped up squirt. >> Poor boy. >> Praying to Jesus. And then all a sudden. at 40 something comes along like Steve. Carell in that movie. 40-year-old. virgin. >> Oh dude, it really I don't know, man. Like I don't that part of it to me has.

always seemed like you know how can you. this is the other thing man with the. declining birth rates and people not. being able to have kids or not wanting. to have kids because it's too [ __ ]. expensive. >> It's like it's worrisome to me because. ever since I had kids you like have a. whole different connection to the world. than when you don't have kids. And it. humanizes you. It grounds you in the. earth. All your chips are on the [ __ ]. table, man. And and it's intense. And I.

do think like as a spiritual guide to. people. I I it does make me scratch my. chin. It's like you have never been. around a third trimester pregnant person. who just found out there might be mice. in the house. You don't know what that's. like, man. >> Primal, right? >> You don't want TO BE AROUND THAT. THAT'S. COLLIE, MAN. YOU DON'T WANT TO BE AROUND. THAT and all the other things that go. around along with being married and. having kids and all the heights and lows.

and all the [ __ ] you learn about. yourself. >> You I do feel like you're by not letting. them have families, you are kind of. keeping them out of this part of the. like human experience that that is. really good for people. Like you need. that. You need to know what that's like. It's important. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I agree. It. helps you grow as a human. You It. changes your perspective on things. You. know, one of the things that people.

always say, "I don't want to have kids.". You know, I think bringing a child into. this world today is is a terrible idea. I'm like, people had people before they. figured out doors. That's why we're here. We're We're here. People had babies on dirt floors in. caves and that's why we're here, right? >> Yeah. Why would you want to have a child. today with all the [ __ ] books and. medicine and [ __ ] Like, why would you. want to do that? Why would you with all. the education and all the interesting.

people that are alive? >> Do you like people? >> I love people. >> I could never be a hermit. I love. people. Me, too. I love hanging out. Like, I love having fun. I love meeting. people that are fun. I love it. The only. way that happens is if people make. people. >> Yeah. >> You have to make cool people. Yeah. >> Make cool people that other people want. to hang out with. >> Yeah. >> And you know that sounds overly. simplified because it is. >> Yeah. For sure. There's some. circumstances where that's not an option.

and it's not possible and you're you're. living in a [ __ ] terrible state. >> uh terrible state of life, right? You. could be in the worst most abusive. environments. And that's the the real. problem in this world is that we h allow. those places to exist while we think. about things that are just bananas. Think about like wealth extraction and. pulling stuff out of the ocean and. figuring out how to do this and that and. spending all this money on this and that. and defense and this and that and then. completely ignoring the people on your.

timeline, >> right, >> that are in life or death struggle. through no fault of their own. They were. just born into the wrong family, in the. wrong neighborhood, in the wrong. timeline, >> and they're [ __ ]. >> And the only difference between you and. them is you got lucky, and you were born. in a good timeline. Yep. >> And your life, you got lucky. You live. with nice people. Yay. But they got. [ __ ] And if. >> we allow that to continue to happen,

you're always going to have the same. kind of problems over and over and over. again. There's got to be a way to at. least tilt that in a positive direction. and build on it and actually have. businesses that are financially. incentivized for success. >> Yeah. >> Like they make more money if people get. jobs. They make more money if people get. good grades. They make more money if. they could figure out a way to transform. crimeridden, gangridden neighborhoods.

Yeah. >> Into places where people are thriving. and happy. There's got to be a way. >> There's got to be a way. There's got to. be a way. People ex like that place that. I was telling you about in Oakland, that. video where they're driving through the. shanty towns and then immediately they. get to this totally clean environment. that's, you know, run by different. politicians that this it's there's got. to be a way to do that. There's got to. be a way to engineer. our society in a in a more positive. direction. There's got to be. Dude, the. first step is is is you've got to turn.

your back. on the state. You cannot believe the. state is going to do this because I. think people are waiting for a top-down. solution. They're waiting for man, what's his name? The New York dude, or. they're waiting for someone to like sign. the right series of documents, then. everything's fine. It's and and and. meanwhile they're like in their [ __ ]. high-rise with crusted jizz on their. belly posting [ __ ] on Reddit. It's like.

really it's this is going to be all. hands on deck. It's like maybe the. federal government is going to figure. out the perfect way to educate and house. and clothe and all this stuff. And. that'll be great. But in the meantime, every single one of us, every single one. of us could do something. Not a big. deal, not a big thing, but something. And instead of it, like it's like when. they say the f the government shut down,

the national parks, there's trash. I saw. a picture trash around a dumpster. And. it's like, uh, any one of us could drive. a truck up to that [ __ ] dumpster and. clean up that trash. Why are we waiting. for the federal government to do this. [ __ ] That's the problem is the federal. government's got us all hypnotized into. thinking we need them to do these. things. And I would, by the way, that'd. be great. I think people living next to. an open air drug market/mental.

asylum would be quite pleased if the. taxes that they were paying went towards. getting these people medical care. somewhere far away from their apartment. >> Yeah. >> Not going to happen. YOU CAN COUNT ON IT. SO, in the. meantime, what do we do? And and you. know, that's I as I was like watching. doom scrolling, looking at all the like. the Oakland videos and stuff, this. dude's interviewing people out there, soup kitchens, giving out food, and boy,

that'll make you feel like a piece of. [ __ ] This guy's just helping. This is. nobody. This is like you'll never This. guy's not filming themselves taking. [ __ ] selfies telling the stupid story. of the time he gave up sandwiches. someone with his kid like I did in the. beginning. This is just people out. there. They interview this guy. Why? What are you Why are you doing this? And. he's like, I mean, it just seems like. that's what you're supposed to do. >> It's so basic and simple and that. >> that exists. >> That exists. >> and that doesn't get highlighted. You.

don't get that in your algorithm. No, you don't get it in your. >> You got more of that in your your. algorithm, you would realize like, oh, there's good people out there still. >> And I'm one of them and you can help. Like, and you don't have to film it. You. don't have to do it for any reason. And. dude, the moment we don't even know what. would happen if under the yokek of. whatever the regime happens to be, instead of instead of. flapping our [ __ ] like uh fireworks. in front of ice, you know, if like all.

of us were just going out there and like. I don't know. I don't know. I can bar I. I suck at most things, dudes. But it's. like it's not that hard to like give. water to people out there. And And yeah, some of them are [ __ ] terrifying. They seem like they're possessed by. demons. I'm surprised you don't believe. in demons, but but uh but you know what? >> It's not that I don't. >> You believe in demons? >> Uh I'm agnostic on the possibility of. demons. I definitely believe in good and. evil, though. I believe there's uh I.

believe evil thoughts can get into. people's minds and then if you follow. that down a long life, you can get to a. pretty evil place. >> Yeah. >> That's how you get to a dictator. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> I think that's real. And I think. especially if you're involved in evil. acts. So say imagine you start off in. some sort of military and uh you're in a. foreign country and you're killing a. bunch of people and then you take over a.

town and then you know things escalate. and you continue your career doing. horrible things for decade after decade. and then you start to get into power. >> and then you get into political power. and then you start running the country. and then you overthrow the government. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And then you become a dictator and then. you do horrible [ __ ] Horrible [ __ ]. You're Sodom Hussein, right? You have. your sons are feeding women to dogs in. the basement. >> Yeah. Real horrible horrible horrible. [ __ ] Yeah. >> That is that is evil. That like.

>> I had uh Jack Carr, the author on the. podcast yesterday. >> What did he write? >> He wrote The Terminalist, that Amazon. series. It's uh he's he's a great it's. the one that Chris Pratt plays in that. Amazon series. >> Oh, okay. >> It's really good. But the books are. amazing. He's and he's a super [ __ ]. cool guy. Anyway, he said, you know, he. went to those palaces cuz he was a SEAL. and he was in the war and he went to. those palaces says you can feel the. evil. >> He said, you feel it. He said,

especially the kids, the sons, >> Uday and Kus, they were monsters. Serial. killer monsters. Jesus Christ. >> Who were the sons of the dictator? They. would find women while they were getting. married. They would take the woman, they'd rape the woman, and then feed. them to their dogs. They had these dogs. that they would feed people to. >> [ __ ] that. >> Yeah. Yeah, man. >> [ __ ]. >> Yeah. I think that that scene in Game of. Thrones, like do you remember that scene.

in Game of Thrones where he would do. that? There was one of the evil dudes. that cut that guy's dick off and he feed. people to his dogs. >> That's a real thing, man. They He really. did that. >> Yeah, that's that is 100% evil. Now, is. that demons inside of him? I don't know. Um. >> I tend to think. >> I think I tend to think evil is in all. of us. It's just does it get cultivated. and what what cultivates it? What makes. it what makes it, you know, over time,

over a long history of seeing and doing. horrible things, I think you can get to. a place of unbelievable evil. Yeah. >> I mean, think about Jenghask Khan. Think. about what that guy did while he was. alive where he killed 10% of the. population of Earth, >> right? >> I mean, if that's not evil, like what is. like what is what is it? I mean, they. would they would light people on fire. and use them as catapults to light. houses on fire. So, they'd put them in. catapults and launched corpses, flaming.

corpses, and they would land on these. thatched roofs and start the houses on. fire. >> Right. Right. >> Wow. >> They would take people and they would. kidnap them, right? So they would sack a. town and they'd take all the people and. everybody that gave in and surrendered, they would put them at the front of the. line and then they would start attacking. the city and all the people would just. get crushed by the enemy. So by the time. they just push them forward. So they. would get thousands of people in front. of them and push them into a city and.

those people are just getting hacked. apart cuz there's there's people that. are trying to stop the siege and those. are the people that are getting killed. And so they're like human shields and. then they're trampling over their dead. bodies to destroy the entire city, >> right? >> If that's not evil, if that's not evil, like what's evil? Like to them that was. their destiny. And. >> and that happened. >> Jenis Khan, one of one of his quotes was. crazy. It was you must have I'm. paraphrasing it. We could find it, I'm. sure. You must have done something.

horribly wrong for God to send me. That was that letter to the pope. Isn't. that the letter he wrote to the pope? >> I don't know. I don't know who it wrote. it to. >> One of them wrote a real take down. >> See if you can find that. It's But it's. from like the the Do you know that the. what they know about the Mongols came. from like one diary that they found in. like the 1800s. Like there was so little known about. Jenghaskhan. They don't know where he. was buried. >> They still don't know. >> They have no idea. They killed they.

killed the people that took him to there. so that they couldn't tell. And then. more people came and killed the people. that killed the people so that they. couldn't tell. >> Right. I I think didn't they kill. themselves after killing the people too? Like it was just like. >> Yeah. Something nutty like that. >> It's like [ __ ] wild. >> [ __ ] wild. >> Yeah. >> I saw. >> But what is that quote that he had about. God sending me? It's when you think about who that. [ __ ] was. I mean, he's the. [ __ ] of all [ __ ] I.

mean the greatest warlord of all time. He is the the goat. >> Yeah, man. >> To the point where people don't even. consider him evil, right? You don't. people don't think of Jenghaskhan as. evil. You think of his Hitler as evil, right? But Jenghask Khan is just this. conqueror guy, right? >> But meanwhile, he killed 50 million. people. So many people. >> He changed the carbon footprint of. Earth. when they do like when they look. at the carbon footprint of earth during. his time cities regreened.

you it's there's a noticeable amount. >> because cities were destroyed and the. the the nature just absorbed them and. trees grew in their place I am the. punishment of God if you'd not committed. great sins God would not have sent a. punishment like me upon you. >> Jesus. >> I am the punishment of God, imagine if. that's how you justify just wholesale. slaughter of everybody in a city and.

stacking the bones up. >> Stacking the bones up so high that the. Shaw of Kurisma sent an envoy to go and. talk to uh whoever was running Jin China. and along the way they thought they saw. a a like a snowcapped mountain. And as. they got closer they realized it was a. stack of bones. >> God damn it. It was a million people. They killed a million people and stacked. them in the middle of the city. >> God, that must have taken forever. >> Forever?

>> Whose job is that, >> bro? They killed everyone on the road. They had to abandon their wagons because. the wagons were stuck in the muck of. decaying people. They couldn't pull the wagons anymore. cuz all the roads had deteriorated into. muck. >> Yeah. You know what? When you look back. at [ __ ] like that, we're doing pretty. good right now. We're doing pretty good. >> We're doing pretty good. >> But that that is. >> that is horrifying. You that is. >> if that's not evil, what's evil? >> Well, that is evil.

>> That's evil. >> That is evil. And that what's you know. what's interesting is people I think. like around the world regardless of the. culture that you're raised in we all. have a similar sense of evil versus. good. That's where it gets curious. It's. like people it seems like people have a. sense of like it isn't good. for. example, to like [ __ ] a dog corpse. I. bet you could go all around the planet. >> Most people say that's bad. >> Most people are going to do that. Don't. don't [ __ ] dog corpses. Like if you see.

a dead dog, don't [ __ ] its ass. >> And if you see that a guy's doing that, you go that guy's a problem. >> That guy's a problem. You don't. >> we're going to we're going to have to. take that guy out. >> Don't hire him. >> Yeah. >> And so there seems to be built into us a. sense of like harmony and how to do it. and what it looks like. >> And then there's examples like you just. described. It's like. >> fun though, right? >> Could you imagine being in that posi and. knowing what you're going to do? And.

also just the [ __ ] the fact that some. un insane percentage of people worldwide. have his DNA cuz he had that many kids. >> Just [ __ ] when he's not killing, he's. just [ __ ]. >> That's all he lived for. He just lived. to [ __ ] and to kill. >> How did he have time to plan war? I. mean, he was a brilliant strategist. That's what the crazy thing is. Like. they they did a lot of sneaky [ __ ] Like. they led people. They had like small. packs that would lead people into the. mountains and then they would have a. giant pack of people waiting for them. and they just [ __ ] come down off the.

hills and engulf them. >> They did brilliant [ __ ] man. They. waited people out. >> Is there a. >> They drank the the blood of their horses. to stay. They ate their horses. They ate. each other. >> Apparently, there was some cannibalism. that was reported. Is there a movie like. why haven't they made like a Game of. Thrones style series? >> There was one pretty decent movie, but. in order for the movie to be realistic, it would have to be so hardcore, right? >> And it would be really problematic.

because it involves a lot of rape. >> There's a lot of rape and a lot of. horrible, horrible murders. And one of. the one of the things they did was they. had some rule where like with kings and. emperors, they weren't allowed to like. chop them up. So they would kill them in. different ways. Instead of like. attacking them with swords or whatever. they would do, >> they would do that or sometimes they. would just stack their bodies and then. build uh like a a floor above them and. eat on top of them until they crushed.

them to death. So they would build a. platform over their bodies. Just crush. them with the weight of these timbers. These people would be moaning while they. were eating. >> Do you think that's real? >> Yes. Yeah. Yeah, that's documented. >> Wow, man. >> Yeah, the people that survived. That's. one of the things he would also do. Let. some people survive to tell the stories. >> Jeez. >> Just run, tell everyone. >> And of course, like if you're at that. dinner, you're not going to like. complain about it. Like, you're not.

going to say [ __ ]. >> You probably get off on it by now. You. probably been doing it for a decade. You. probably been killing people everywhere. you go. They lived in felt tents and. they were nomads. So they had no real. home and they went wherever the [ __ ]. they went and everywhere they went they. killed everybody. >> [ __ ]. That is incredible. >> It's a crazy story. And the story of of. Jenghaskhan, his name was Teujin. He. started off as a young boy and he had a. brother that was a [ __ ] and his.

brother was like stealing his fish and. beating his ass. And one day he killed. his brother and his mother freaked out. and said, "You [ __ ] you devil.". You know, he started off young is the. point. >> Yeah. >> Started off young. >> Yeah. Weren't Wasn't his family really. poor? >> Yeah. The whole story. It's crazy. His. mother had to run because his father was. killed and his mother had to run. They. barely survived. They were left out. there to die. >> But don't people I I He's sort of. beloved.

>> Oh, yeah. That's what's crazy. There's. there's statues of him in Mongolia. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But listen, he historically he was doing. what everybody else was doing. He was. just doing it better. >> They were all doing that. When the Shaw. of Charisma sent the envoy, >> Charisma, I I thought I misheard. >> Charisma is a it was a country. >> Okay. >> It was the Charismian Shaw. It doesn't. exist anymore. What is it now? Is it. like Syria or something? You know, a lot. of those countries, they changed names. What is What was Quarisma with a Q?

Quorism. Quorism. Am I saying it wrong? I don't think it exists anymore. I'm. sorry if it does. Might be one of them. weird ones. >> Sha of Charisma. >> Um, but anyway, this dude was seeing. like whether or not they could sack Jyn. You know, they were going to visit to. see like like let's take a look and see. what their defenses are like and we'll. bring some [ __ ] carpets and some nice. stuff and give them a little gift and. then come back and [ __ ] them up. Like. that was a standard move, right? >> And when they were on their way, they. were like, "The Mongols already got. there. >> and it was already too late." Wow.

>> Yeah. >> Holy [ __ ] man. >> If they had ever gotten to Europe, it. would have been over. >> I thought they did get to Europe. >> No, but I mean, if they went into Italy, >> like if they went into like Rome and the. Vatican, it would have been over. >> Didn't he conquer more land mass than. any other human? Like, didn't at some. point they. >> I think it's something like that. Uh, present day Central Asia, Afghanistan, and Iran from zero 1077 to. 1231. Interesting. So that was the.

Corismian Empire. >> Wow. >> So from 1777 to 1231 first is vassels of. the how do you say that word? Seljuk. Empire and the Quir Kai. Western Ly dynasty from circa 1190 as. independent rulers up until the. Mongolian conquest in 1219 to 1221. >> Holy [ __ ] The Mongol the Mongolians. took him over.

>> [ __ ] took over everything, dude. >> This is why they took over everything. >> This is why I think people really get. weirdly disturbed by Graham Hancock. because it's it's like it's like you. don't want to think about it. You don't. want to think about the fact that there. are all these empires. Forget the. Charismians. There's all these empires. No one knows what the [ __ ] they were. doing or who they were. Nothing. And. they were just like us. >> Yep. >> They were talking, having conversations,

>> sipping tea, >> sipping tea, >> having fun with their boys, >> never thinking like, you know, at some. point people are going to be staring at. the ruins of our temples, scratching. their chins, wondering what this means. >> Dude, that to me is another unifying. thought or planetary unification is. like, man, you guys, nobody to this day. knows who built those [ __ ] pyramids, >> right? And they they if you were like. living around the pyramids,

I doubt the thought will ever cross your. mind. At some point, Mr. Beast, >> Mr. Beast is going to be film an episode. of his YouTube show. >> You know what I mean? That never. occurred to you. >> You know, I almost went with him. >> Mr. Beast? >> Yeah, I almost went during that trip. because I couldn't I couldn't swing it. >> I didn't have the time. >> DAMN, DUDE. YOU THAT'S OH, THAT SUCKS. YOU SHOULD. >> BUT ALSO, I didn't want to do it that. way. Uh, if I'm going to do it, I'm. going to do it for quite a few days, and.

I'm going to do it with like an expert, like a Ben of, you know, from Uncharted. X, >> right? >> Like one of those dudes or Graham if. Graham has the time. I know he's very. busy, but he goes there all the time. I. would do that. >> Um, but do What do you think about those. structures underneath? >> I pray that they're real. >> Did you see Van Kirkwick's video? The. video about the labyrinths? Uh, can we I. I just No, I just read that. >> I had him on the podcast. There's. labyrinths that they've discovered that.

are underneath that are historic. Herodotus talked about them. He said. they're greater than the pyramids, the. structure underneath some of the. pyramids, greater than the pyramids. And. through this ground penetrating radar, they've found a 40 m long metallic. tic-tac-shaped object that is in this. great hall that's under the ground. Okay, >> so all this stuff exists, but they they.

made a dam on the Nile River in the. 1960s to help agriculture and it changed. the water table and it flooded all these. underground labyrinths. >> God, [ __ ] damn it. So they would have. it's like a massive undertaking to try. to excavate and figure out what's in. there. >> But couldn't you put a drone like a. >> No, it's all in water. You have to. actually go through the water and then. below that to where the labyrinths are. dig through the mud. >> They might actually be able to channel. underneath it, they think, and go below. the water table and then go to it.

because it appears like the water is not. in the labyrinth itself. Labyrinth. >> It's a labyrinth. Sorry. >> Thank you. But whatever it is, there's a. 40 meter long metallic object of unknown. origin that's the shape of a tic tac. that's in there. >> This is real. >> This is real. >> Like it cuz I. >> 40 meters, dude. This guy is so legit. Ben is Uncharted X is a fantastic. YouTube channel. >> What the [ __ ]. >> This is all like real science. It's the. same kind of science that they're using.

to figure out what the [ __ ] is under the. Great Pyramid. All those those weird. >> I thought that was debunked and I was. disappointed by that. Oh, it's not. debunked. Not at all. No, the images. have been verified multiple times. They. don't know what it is, but there's some. structure underneath the pyramid. >> See, >> those columns are real. There really are. columns underneath the pyramids, and it. really does go down deep into the earth. They just don't know what it is. But the. same technology, they've they've. observed all of the different like where.

they know where there's special chambers. that are sealed off. They know where. those things are, but they saw it with. the radio tomography. They also were. able to use it to identify temples that. were 25 and 50 feet underground. So it's. it's it's accurate. >> Give me a [ __ ] break, man. How was. that? I I cuz like I was so excited when. that came out. I'm like I knew it. I've. seen it on ketamine and then. >> Yeah. Did you What did you see? >> It's hard to explain. It's like uh. >> structures. I mean, let me reiterate,

this was in the Khole, but it was like. vast cavernous spaces with structures in. it. And you know, the weird thing about. ketamine is it's kind of like you're. being given a tour and then you sort of. it's like a viewfinder. >> You remote viewed. >> Maybe I remote viewed. It was very. exciting to see. And. >> and it was under the pyramids. >> It was under the pyramids, but I must. say the next thing I saw was like a city. being powered by meat. So, it's not. exactly like like my remote viewing.

>> Maybe that's what you're going to do. with the homeless problem. >> OH, AND Joe Rogan solves the homeless. problem. >> Maybe that's what the alien agenda is. >> Well, I mean, >> they power the city. They look we'll. take care of your problems, >> dude. This is real. I am not comfortable. with this comet Atlas. >> I know. >> And and like, you know, >> we've got Avi Lo coming on to talk about. it. >> He's amaz I had him on my podcast a long. time ago. He put up with my ass. >> A lot of people in the beginning were. saying that it's [ __ ] It's a comet.

Why is he saying this? He's risking his. reputation. But then as time's going on, they're go, "What? This is weird. This. thing's really weird.". >> Well, it's the what? Okay, first of all, it's important to note that one thing. that titillates my dumbass is it just so. happens the government shutdown. coincides with when we could use the. satellites on Mars to get pictures of. that [ __ ] thing. So, we're not. getting pictures. They did release a. picture of it yesterday. >> The government shutdown is stopping us. from getting pictures of this thing.

>> Yes. Yes. >> That's insane. >> That's insane. Now. >> that's so insane. They should open that. up. >> I mean, it seems like they they just. That's really weird. There are Did you. see the images that just came in though? The Europeans got an image of it and. >> it's weird looking. >> It's weird looking, but I don't know. what a comet looks like. So. >> I don't know what a comet looks like and. I don't know why it's weirder than other. comets. But it does seem like it's going. it's like rolling in a weird way, but. it's the it's the gas, right? It's like. it's what it's releasing is the weird. part.

>> Well, the weird part is coming from the. same part of the universe where the wow. signal came from. >> Yeah. That's weird. >> That's weird. >> That's [ __ ] weird. >> That's weird cuz that wow signal, what. was like 70 seconds long? Some very. strange coded signal. It was 70 seconds. long. You know what else is weird is. Jeremy Corbell said a bunch of people. are going to start saying there's a. mother ship coming to Earth and don't. believe him. Remember he was saying. that? >> Yeah. What's that all about? Why did he. know that? >> I don't know. >> You got to tell people why you know. something like that. You can't just say.

that. >> Well, I you know what I mean? Like how. do you know? How do you know that it's. not really a mother ship? How do you. know they're going to say it's a mother. ship? Well, Corbel, he's got to do this. tightroppe walk because somehow he does. have inside contacts, but he if he says. too much, he he puts his whole life in. danger. >> It's such a spy TV show, >> dude. So much of it seems like a spy TV. show. So much of it seems like a. well-written scop. >> It's so weird. >> Yeah, >> it's so weird.

>> It's I think it's a slow trickle of. disclosure. It's a a slow recognition. that we're not alone. And did it that. they've calculated that the only way to. do this and not disrupt society. entirely. You know how put off do you. know he is? Yeah. Do you know that story. about how when he was George Bush the. original Herbert Walker he wanted to. disclose and that what they were going. to say was we have recovered crashed. UFOs that we have back engineered and we. have biological entities. There are.

things that are not of this world and. they're far more intelligent than us. brought in a bunch of scientists and a. bunch of scholars and I wanted I want. you to write down on the positives and. the negatives of societ like the. societal impact of disclosure and give a. numerical value to what is going to do. the financial world what it's going to. do the religious world what it's going. to do to government. >> and at the end they all had the same. conclusion the the the cons far. outweighed the pros. >> in terms of disruption of society so.

they decided not to release it. >> dude what the [ __ ] is. >> that wild Like they almost did that. What was that George Bush? It was like. 90 1990 maybe. >> Yeah. It's really weird. Like is that. crazy? >> If our entire society. >> depends on protecting billionaire. pedophiles and not talking about aliens, then maybe we need a new society. Just. maybe this is a [ __ ] up society. >> Or this is a good time for Jesus to come. back. >> Perfect time. Always a good timing. also.

perfect because you'd have to really. believe because with AI today, you don't. know what the [ __ ] is going on. So, you'd have to really believe or Jesus. comes through AI. Well, it's possible. It is possible. I. mean, the. >> that's the portal that opens up. >> That's the That's the Christ or the. Antichrist. >> consciousness. Oh, well, come on, Duncan. Really? The Antichrist? >> People are going to buy more tickets. People are going to buy more tickets to. my movie.

True. >> Nobody wants to see. >> True. Nobody wants to see the It all. works out in the end movie. [ __ ] that. The battle for Satan. >> Listen, man. >> Well, I think I think that uh I think. I'm Here's a cheesy way to end it. >> Okay. >> I feel so lucky I'm your friend, man. You're the coolest. I was thinking about. it the other day. You're one of my I. You're one of my oldest friends. I've. known you for so long, man. I. >> I We've known each other a long time.

>> It's [ __ ] cool. >> I love you to death, man. I love you, too. >> I'm very happy that we're friends, too. >> Yeah, it's the best, man. >> It is. And it's funny because we became. friends really uh talking on the phone. when you were the guy taking the phone. calls for availabilities at the comedy. store. >> We did this on the phone. >> Yeah, we bas we basically did. We We. started talk. You would like tell me, "Man, have you heard about this?" I'm. like, "No, what is it?" We'd have these. longass conversations on the phone. Yeah. while you were working. >> It's hours. >> Hours. >> It really was like podcast back then.

Long before we ever went on the road. together. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's [ __ ] cool, man. Yeah. >> Well, I'm glad you're here, man. >> Well, likewise. Likewise. Thank you for. having me on, too. >> My pleasure, brother. It's always fun. Always fun to hang out with you. Uh, if. you're around tonight, come do the show. Can you Are you out? >> I can't cuz I got to wake up at 4, like. 3:00 a.m. to fly. >> Oh, where you going? >> Uh, tomorrow I'm headed to Tacoma. Oh, can I say some dates? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> [ __ ] I always forget. Dude, you've got. the most popular podcast on earth. I. always. >> You're in Tacoma this weekend. Where you.

at? >> Hold on. Let me I Googled it cuz I I've. been on the road so much. >> Tacoma is fun. >> Well, when does this COME OUT? >> TOMORROW. >> WHAT? >> YEAH. >> TACOMA. >> TACOMA. >> Be in Tacoma. I'm going to be in uh. Portland. There it is. >> Oh, thank you. >> Tacoma Comedy Club. >> Keep going. >> I heard that's an awesome spot. >> The Funny Bone Funny Bone Helium. Helium. Oh, boy. You're going right to. the belly of the beast. >> I'm excited. >> Oh, perfect for your comedy. >> Yeah.

Oh, they got a Richmond one, too. Nice. >> And then. >> all of it is available at. duncanrussell.com/tour. >> My man. >> My man. Thank you, Joe. Love you. >> Bye, everybody. >> BYE. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music].