Joe Rogan Experience #2386 - The Red Clay Strays

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Don't read the comments. That's where I. messed up. I got called a lesbian so. many times. Mustache lesbian. Mustache. lesbian. >> Well, he's like he looks like Matthew. McConaughey. Well, it's might be the. chain. Maybe. >> That That looks very lesbian-esque. Thank you. My sister told me that. >> not a bad one. It's not bad. There's. nothing wrong with being a lesbian. No, nothing's wrong with being a lesbian. I'm just a heterosexual male. That's all. >> With a wonderful mustache. I went back. to the comments last night and uh.

>> Oh, don't do that. And somebody was like. uh "Andrew, come on, man. Don't sit with. your legs crossed.". That was just the latest one. That was. Why Why is it always me getting picked. on? >> Did you sit with your legs crossed in. the typical liberal fashion? I mean. >> Like the Gavin Newsom style? Yeah, you. can't sit. >> Just chill. I was I mean. >> a little bit of a gap there. The thing. is if you get the real the the deep. scissor The deep scissor is like. signaling. The trick is you got to you. got to scoop then. Yeah. >> You got to get your stuff out the way,

dude. Yeah, I don't know. It doesn't doesn't seem comfortable. I've been doing it for a long time. So, are you You guys are You were. telling me you're kind of burnt right. now. So, you guys are fully on the road. right now. Oh, yeah. I say that and then. and then the next moment I'm walking. around like "Dang, this is fun." But. yeah, I would But usually about this. time of the year where we have a couple. more months left, it's like "Man, we're. almost done. Good to be home for a while. more than 2 days at a time.".

How long have you guys been on the road. for? So, this year or just in general? Well, all to all told. Uh we started touring. in Andrew's Academy in 2018. And has it. been flat out since then? Pretty much. I mean, we do usually. >> breaks. Yeah, we I mean, we break in. December for Christmas. Um Jeez. >> And but it's gotten better. This year we. started touring in July, which was good. cuz we usually start. Um we would usually start in April or. May. >> When did you end? So,

we end in December. Oh, okay. That's not. too bad. No. Well, this last year we. started in March. with Canada. >> Yeah, Canada. But that was like a month. It didn't. really count. >> have you guys been together all told? We got So, we this Red Clay Strays got together. uh in December 2016. But before that uh Drew was. the manager of a cover band and Andrew. was the bass player in the cover band.

And um. >> What were you guys covering? Everything. Just good stuff. >> blues. Just like really bad blues. Yeah, we used to run people out. And. country. And how did you guys all get. together? Uh I met Drew. um through the a mutual friend. Uh we. were working out in the gym together. I. was in high school and Drew. um this guy was like "Hey, man. I'm I. got a buddy. He's kind of He's kind of. down on his luck. He's like squatting in. my dorm and I want to give him something. to do.".

I want to give him something to do. So, uh. >> I was down on that down on my luck that. bad. I'm just saying what he ever does, man. Nobody ever does. I'm just repeating what I heard and uh. Yeah, so Drew had never done anything. like that. He had never booked or was He. was trying to be a middle school teacher. football coach. That's what he was going. to college for. And um Why middle school? High school or. college, that's what That was the goal. >> I know, but. Realistically. >> Never had any. That's just where I was going to land.

10-4. Never done anything in the business. though and he just like I'm What did you. say? He's like "I'm going to I'm going. to do everything I can to help you make. it.". And I was like 18 and he was like 22, 23. And he had us playing in every. single bar on the Gulf Coast and. we didn't know anything about the. business either. So, the the manager. booking agent fees, you know, 15%. We. didn't know about that. So, we cut him. in evenly. Oh, boy. >> Yeah, and so he'd show up and drink beer.

at our shows and he'd always He'd always. be at our practices and he was fully. committed and so we he got an even cut. and then he ended up turning his life. around and he was able to scoot around. and buy burgers. and not be. down on your luck anymore. >> Hallelujah. >> I think that's impressive. Never done. anything like that and you stepped up. and became a legitimate booking agent. and legitimate manager. Yeah, I mean, I. just saw something I knew that was. incredible and I was like. "All right. Well, what do I need to do. to. get this guy in front of people?" And I.

just. I would sit in like I work for the. equipment staff at South Alabama and I. would sit in the equipment room between. washing jockstraps and like, you know, setting up cone drills or whatever and. just like. put posted notes up on the wall and just. write numbers down and just call all. these people until like. somebody picked up or like "Hey, like. what's the email for booking or. whatever?" And I just booked as as much. as I could. So, it was basically just. learning on the job, trying to figure it.

out as you go. No experience in it. whatsoever. No. Wow. That's a cool story. Yeah. And it. was all just based on your talent. No, I mean, I was uh. >> what it was what you saw, right? It was. Well, Yeah, that night That night you. met the night uh. the night we met The night I met you, yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, like the first time I. heard you on a cell phone recording, I. was like. "Eh.". He's okay. And then I heard him in person and I was. like "Oh my god. All right. What.

What Okay, what needs to happen here?". And yeah, I had no idea. I was I was. just. fully winging it, you know. Wow. Those are the best stories though. Yeah. You know, the best stories are not. started in some [ __ ]. boardroom somewhere where a bunch of. guys sit down with headshots and. demos and try to put people together. The best stories happen just kind of. like "What?". What were you doing? Posted notes. Just. called people? Like those are the best.

stories. >> We didn't even know how to set up music. equipment. Like we would have our our. main setup behind us and so the. microphones would be feeding back into. the mains. We didn't know what we were. doing. We just knew we wanted to play. music. So, we'd show up to these bars. and most of the time run people out and. clear the room out cuz we were didn't. know how to play music that well either. Guitar amps turned up and. we would show up and just ruin people's. evening and clear out a bar. They're. trying to watch a football game and we. show up playing Allman Brothers.

and just. our guitar players just always cranked. their amps. We did have a an old man drummer there. That was the only thing about that band. before Red Clay Strays. Um so, that was you didn't have to worry. about the drums being too loud, I guess, cuz he was just doing his thing. He. ended up quitting. um. when we started traveling more. and. that's when we started holding. auditions. And we were going to audition this one. guy. and he flaked he couldn't make the.

audition. We rescheduled him. and he couldn't make the audition again. and then we were like. how did we get in touch with John? What. When will we audition him? Uh there's a. um. Ethan. uh who was in Papa's Medicine Cabinet. Yeah. Uh I reached out to him. I was. like "Man, I I know you play drums.". That was the best band in town at the. time. I was like "I know you play drums. You probably know a good bit of. drummers. Like. you know anybody who could use some. work?" And uh.

He uh John was playing in a band called. Ryan Dyer Band back home and. he said uh. John just. they just separated from that band. So, uh John's available. You should get him. for a tryout. And. I was like "Hey, dude. You want to come. play with us or whatever?" And. he showed up playing Skynyrd in a. with him and his brother. in like a SUV or something. Yeah, we had. >> Like this is going to work. We had the. auditions in uh Citronelle, Alabama,

which is like up in the sticks and he. didn't have a phone. Um so, he was like "Meet me at the. Hardee's at like, you know, 6:30" or. whatever time it was cuz he did We. couldn't call him once he left his. house. And so, Andrew left You were driving the. Firebird at the time. You left in the. Firebird and and met him and brought him. back and we auditioned him then. And the audition went great. He showed. up with his with his brother who played. piano. and um his brother wasn't trying to join. the band, but his brother just played. with us.

And uh. just the first song we played we we. tried him out with a an original that we. were working on. which was a terrible song also, but um. Yeah. Andrew and John locked in. immediately and just they hit the all. the pauses together and I just remember. still being blown away by that. It's. just how quickly y'all locked in and. um and it still shows today on stage. their their chemistry. They're just They've got some kind of. telekinetic thing going on, I think. Cuz they The big thing was coming from.

that old man drummer. And then. that's the first time I've ever played. with like a a real drummer besides my. own dad. His name was Ray. And me and. John, I mean, we can we It's really. weird how when we first started, like we. can we know A lot when we played in. those bars, it was improvised. You know, we're playing covers. We're not even. playing them the right way. And we can. hit those pauses without even looking at. each other. Like we just know what each. other's going to do. So, as a bass. player, your drummer is your best. friend. Even though we're me and John probably.

butt heads more than anybody in the. band, but that's the relationship. That. is a big part of the problem with a band. is that you guys just get on each. other's nerves, right? Uh I mean, just. like any other I mean, we're just like. brothers. >> It's a It's a group of guys and you're. traveling all year round. You'll get. pissed off at each other for sure. If If. a band says they're not they don't get. pissed off, they're lying. Or they just. don't like each other for real. But you. just We just. something we actually learned as men. were was how to talk about your feelings. with each other, too. Cuz in the early.

stages, it was you know, I had anger. issues. I'd just get pissed off real. quick. >> Was it about the mustache? No, I didn't. have the mustache yet. Maybe that's what. it was. I was immature. I was in You had long hair? Yeah. Did you guys have to learn how to. communicate and set boundaries and. I didn't talk about my feelings growing. up as a kid. Supposedly, that's not. healthy. No, that's not good. But uh. John, you know, he would show up. hammered to the bus and. I would I just had to learn to to just.

bite my tongue. Like you're not going to. change somebody's mind. Just let them go. and talk about it tomorrow. But we all. had things we worked on together. Like stuff like that. Well, it's. the final product is amazing. And the. new album is really [ __ ] good. It's. coming out in June of next year? Is that when it's supposed to come out? We're shooting for summer of next year. We don't really know yet. Um cuz we're. still. >> thing that I got said June of next year. I'm like, this should go out now. You're probably the only one that's. supposed to know that. Oh, really? I.

don't know. Well, everybody knows now. Yeah. But I mean, we're still working on. mixes. Hopefully Hopefully June is is. going to be the ticket. Well, it's. really good. And the final product We. guys are very unique. You have a very. unique sound and it's very fun. Yeah. So, it's you know, I know it's got to be. a lot of work. Whenever I do shows and I. show up at a place and you know, like if. I'm doing an arena, it's just me and my. friends. We just have to roll in there. and hi. Yeah. >> And I see you guys, you got [ __ ]. trucks and this and that and there's so.

many [ __ ] people involved and it's. Oh, yeah. Woo! You just It's a lot. There's a lot of moving pieces to keep. together. So, for you guys to. consistently do it and to bang out. amazing music over and over and over. again. It's It says something. Yeah, man. And it We just had to grow. together. I mean, even at that. rehearsal, we were like, we got one more. rehearsal. We got one more tryout with. the guy who flaked out on us and. John was like, who is it? And I was.

like, uh Travis Patchen. He was like, oh, you're going to hire Travis Patchen. But I think Travis Patchen he couldn't. make the next tryout, too, or something. And then he was like, all right. And then that band played for a couple. more months and broke up and then we. hired Zach. And just. tried out Zach immediately. He just came. in shredding and. um he was always a great guitar player. And then that's when we became Red Clay. Strays. Who came up with the name? My brother. Oh, really? >> Yeah, of all of It's not an interesting.

story at all. We get asked all the time. No, we were at a just in that first. stage of like coming up with a band name. is the hardest thing in the world. And. we had nothing really we that we liked. We had the. the dirt leg trio, Brandon Lane and the. hurricane. Yeah. That's my middle name, Brandon Lane. And then he shot that over. Yeah. And I. didn't like Red Clay Strays. I don't. think any of us did. Brandon Lane and. the hurricane sounds good, too. Yeah. We're only going to go. >> have voted on that.

Then Drew came up with that one. I like. that. But Red Clay Strays is great, too. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. You have two great. ones to choose from. Uh if I need to. start another band, I have it in the. chamber. Talk about that another time. I'm just kidding. God, hopefully not. It. seems like once you got it all together. and it's working, like don't [ __ ] that. up. >> Yeah, man. I don't I don't I don't. understand why bands break up. I don't get it. I don't know how they. stay together. Really? Yeah, I just. can't imagine.

I've had so many. Why do you say that? Well, because of. the internal conflicts, because of the. traveling, because of the stress. You know, it's It just seems like it's. very difficult. It's very difficult to. manage all these different personalities. and to to keep everything rolling and. keep all the the people happy and make. sure that everybody feels appreciated. and everybody feels like they're doing. their part. Yeah. I think you got to have your your. mindset correct, man. Um. and uh for us, it's a God thing.

If you are just chasing worldly things, I guess, and worried about me and how. I'm getting done wrong or how, you know, he's getting on my nerves, and that's what dictates your decisions, I can see, you know, you're going to. walk away from that cuz people suck and. people are always going to fail you at. the end of the day. But when you turn it into a. I'm not doing this for me. I'm doing. this. to fulfill my calling that God's giving. me. Um and. then it becomes a selfless thing.

You know, he who is greatest among you, let him be your servant is. what I is just always pops in my head. So, it's like, if I want to make this thing work, how. can I serve these guys? How, you know, when we'd have to share a hotel room, we. would all all five of us be like, I'll. sleep on the floor. No, no, you're good. You take the bed. I'll sleep on the. floor. We'd have to fight over who gets. the floor. You know what I mean? And then once it. becomes a selfless thing instead of a. selfish thing, you're not. I don't know. And when everybody shares. that mindset, we're all worried about. one another, I don't I don't really see how you could.

break up. Well, that's very unusual and that. sounds fantastic cuz that's kind of the. opposite of most rock and roll bands. Like most rock and roll bands, it is all. about, you know, the lead singer or the. lead guitarist and who's the most. famous, who gets the most checks and who. gets the most attention. >> Yeah, we don't care about any of. >> So, where did that this mindset start. with you? How did you guys develop this. mindset? Uh Is that how you grew up? I I grew up um that way. Yeah, my my.

mother used to read us the Bible as as. children and stuff. So, we always grew. up knowing about Jesus and everything. And then. so, that's pretty much what led me to. make the leap, I guess. You know what I mean? I never had. parents that were pushing me to go to. college or pushing me to do something. They were just like, have a relationship. with God. That's really the only thing. that I got pushed by my parents. And so, um I've always been blessed or cursed. with kind of looking at all this as.

temporary, you know? What's the point in it kind of thing? You can't take any of it with you. There's nothing new under the sun. It's. all chasing wind. What's the point in. all this? And so, that really getting into well, a creator created you. He created all of. this and he put you here for a reason. Well, if that's the case, what's the. reason? Okay, if this is the reason, then um. I'm here I go, God. I'm going to do it. I'm going to I'm going to make the leap. and. I don't know what how it's going to work. out, but I'm just going to trust you.

Work hard and trust you and uh. and that's really all we've done. You. know, there's no plan to it. We get. asked quite often, how do you make it? And um. that's what. just work hard and trust God. That's. That's all That's the only thing that I. can ever. think to answer with because. the shows we've played and the doors. we've walked through. led to new opportunities, you know, many. days, many months, many years down the. road that we could have never planned. And we've just been. just And then you can look back and.

acknowledge the the stone the stepping. stones that he was placing the whole. time. And uh even if it doesn't make sense in. the moment, you know? Just being able to. go back and look at like, wow, I see I. see why that happened now. I see why we. went through that. I see. That's That's just crazy to. crazy to go back and look at. That's. very wise for a young person to think. that way. Like how old are you How old. are you now? 29. Yeah, you're very young. And when. you started, that's even younger. The. like to be able to think that way at an.

early age, there's nothing new under the. sun. Like what's my purpose? My purpose. is to serve. My purpose is to do. something with this gift that I've been. given. And to follow this path, it's it's very. unusual. Like Like cool. I mean, it's great. It's great. It's a. great example for people because it is a. mindset and that mindset will serve you. so much better than the other mindset. >> Yeah, man. The other mindset of chasing. things is how you lead to Elvis on. pills. Yeah. You know? That was my.

favorite Elvis. Yeah, dude. That was the. fun Elvis. 70s Elvis, karate. Yeah. I I. love the fake karate. Big Elvis. And all. the people play along with it. Would you. have wanted to spar with Elvis? No. Come. on, man. >> have been nice to him. I would You had. to lose. Yeah, he would have made you. lose. I want to see Elvis or Steven Seagal do. some sparring. Uh Steven Seagal is legit at aikido. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he was like the. first American to have to run a dojo in. Japan. Dang. Yeah, he was a little legit.

at He was a legit aikido practitioner. Now, the benefits and the practicality. of aikido are hotly debated. It's not. really a great martial art as a. stand-alone martial art. It's really for. samurai to fight against someone who has. a sword. So, if you lose your sword in. combat, you have to understand how to. transfer the momentum of energy that. someone's. attacking you with a sword, you have to. be an expert at manipulating their. attack and using it against them. But as.

a stand-alone martial art, it's not very. effective. >> See, I thought he had some of his videos. where he was like, he just touched. somebody and they would fly across the. room. Not really. He had videos where. guys It was demonstrations. So, guys. would run at him with a very specific. thing and he would flip them. But. he could [ __ ] you up, you know, if you. didn't know what you were doing. But But. problem is if you knew what you were. doing, you'd [ __ ] him up. >> Yeah, you know, but he's a big guy. The. The thing about it is it's just. no one back then really knew what the. best martial art was, so you chose one.

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air and stuff, but it wasn't very good. >> He wasn't a black belt. I mean. Did he have a black belt? Yeah, he had. like a seventh degree or some crazy. [ __ ]. >> the Elvis black belt. >> Yes, sir. >> See, I I did uh. martial arts uh in middle school. I did. Shotokan karate and I loved it. And a part of me wants to get back into. it, but there's the whole Elvis thing. [Laughter]. He'd never go to leave that down. >> Elvis. Yeah, dude. But by the way, back. then nobody knew what was legit and what. was not legit. Like these thrusts, like.

this they're pretending they could hit. him and he doesn't feel it. One of the. my flicking This is so crazy. Like all. this this is just [ __ ] nonsense. >> This is going to be Brandon on. Halloween. This is [ __ ] nonsense. [Laughter]. Hey dude, he was on top of the world. He was. Not only was he on top of the. world, he was the first guy on top of. the world. That's really the important. point. Is that he went crazy for sure, but everybody goes crazy when you get. that famous and no one had ever been. that famous before. Yeah. There was no. guidebook for him to follow. There was.

no Michael Jackson before him. There was. no Prince. There was no nobody. So. it's just nobody can handle that kind of. fame, especially in the you know, 1970s. Nobody knew what. >> Well, I. He. blew up at 19, I think. Yeah. No way you're going to be normal. Uh-uh. Good luck. And then you got a an evil manager. that's feeding you pills and you're all. [ __ ] up and Yeah. You're stuck in. Vegas and he's gambling everything away. Yep. That's going to be my manager.

Dang. We We pick on Cody. You just met him. back there. I was like, "You're just. going to end up being Colonel, bro.". One day. The snowman. No, we hold each other accountable. Well, that's good. Cuz at least now uh. for famous people, there's a road map. Yeah. And you can kind of see where the. pitfalls are. You could see, "Oh, that's. Britney Spears' road. Don't go down. there." You know what I mean? Like you. could see all the the things that people. have said. You know what I'm saying? Like you've. seen all the different ways that you can. ruin your life Yeah. and get caught up.

in the moment. And And then also. the fact that you're very religious. helps a lot because. you don't believe the hype. Right? Like. you believe in higher power. You believe. in something that's bigger and greater. than all of us. If you be believe in. that, you you will not get caught in. this. bizarre mindset that befalls many many. stars where they think they're superior. to everyone else. Because they get. treated that way. That's the. reinforcement they get. >> Mhm. Everywhere they go, people are.

cheering when they see them. People want. them to sign things and take selfies. with them. Everybody wants a hug and. everyone wants to be your best friend. and you really start to believe because. of the the information that you're. getting. The information you're getting. is I'm better than everybody else. Right? And if you don't have a lot of. personal insight and if you're not very. objective and introspective, you will. buy into that and you'll start behaving. and believing like that. And then comes. the pills. >> Yeah, dude. I think that's where you. pick yourself back up. I think that's where we benefit from. like a solo act is that we have five you.

have five individuals that are going to. check each other. We always say the pack. will correct. >> Yes. So if somebody acting out, you. know, we might let you go for a couple. days, but then. you're going to wake up and we have a. come to Jesus meeting. We've done that. All of us have had that at some point in. our careers together. That's great. And. we That's very good. We always too. just think about what you were talking. about uh. We're We're We think we suck. So. like the.

the feeding into the I'm better than. everybody or I'm famous. It's like, well, it's just probably downhill from. here, you know, people just they find. new hobbies and new things to like, especially now faster than ever. People's attention spans are so short. nowadays. It's like Oh, yeah, they're. forgetting. >> top right now. Yeah, but they'll they'll. forget about us. That's. I think that you're much better off. being heavily critical of yourself. Yeah. Yeah. I think so, too. I 100%. agree. Like. I don't never want to be content with. anything I'm doing. Like I I always will.

have notes for myself. Like even after. we have like a solid show or something. I'm like. Well, I just missed like 10 notes and it. felt like Guitar Hero in my head, you. know, when you're. and they start booing you. That's what. happens in my head. It's like, "Get it together, man." You. know. It's better that way. I mean, that's. going to force you to constantly work at. it, constantly try to get better. The. people that believe that they're the. best already, you know, where are you going to go from there? That's exactly how we think. >> Yeah.

There was There was We get asked a lot. at VIP, "What was the moment you knew. you made it?" I'm saying, "I don't I. don't want to make it." What's after. making it, you know? I don't want to. just be there and make it. Making it to. me is like the film where the people. hold hands and walk off in the sunset. That's a crock of [ __ ] Mhm. I don't. want to make it. up in the morning. Okay, what do you want for breakfast? You know, it's like life goes on. And. this idea that there's going to be a. goal where you're going to get to a spot. someday where you could rest, that's nonsense. That's when you die.

Yeah. Take a day off every now and then. Nothing wrong with that. But this idea. that you're going to get to a place. where, "Well, I made it. It's over. I'm. set for life. >> Yeah. I did it. It's all [ __ ]. >> Yep. And if you get really really rich, you. want to get really really really really. rich. It never ends. Really? >> If you If you think like that, yeah. That's the thought process. If you're. just chasing after goals and looking for. this one moment where you could say, "Okay, we did it." It's never happening. Yeah, I kind of I I say that to people,

too. Um. just from the outside looking in, you. think like if you've never done it. before, man, it'd be cool to get a song. in a show. It'd be cool to get a. platinum single. It'd be cool to sell. out Red Rocks. And once you do it, it's like, "Okay, we. did it. Nothing changed." It's like when. your birthday comes, do you feel older? Do you feel older? No, I feel the same. It's here, you know? >> Yeah. So, I mean It's good to have. goals. It's good to have milestones, but. at the end of the day, I guess the process. And then the thing. that you were talking about like.

honoring this gift that you have, that's what it's all about. That's what. it's all about and then recognizing that. you're in this very unique position and. you're very fortunate. And so because of. that, you owe it to this gift that. you've been given and you owe it to the. people that love you, the people that. come to see you to keep doing your best. Well, we do. stray. to play on our name a little bit. I. think we we do stray a little bit from. the industry. Um. cuz our fan base is.

a lot of sad people, a lot of depressed. people, a lot of people who. you know, were suicidal. Um. So. and. we make music for that fan base, I. guess. And you're not going to hear that. at like a a country music festival on. the beach. How do you know that about. your fans? We get messages every day. Oh, yeah. Um We um and sometimes they. email email our agents and stuff. We had. one lady. who sent us an email saying.

uh she decided to off herself, take a. lot of pills, and she wanted to go to. sleep listening to music. Well, um as. she was. laying there waiting to take the big. nap, um she our song I'm Still Fine came on. and it kind of, you know, snapped her. out of it a little bit and. she started crying and. immediately regretted it and got up and. called her sister and told her sister. what she had just did and they rushed. her to the hospital and did whatever at.

the hospital for someone who. takes a lot of pills at once and saved. her life pretty much. And she said yeah, it was so moving. And. that's what really makes it worth it for. us cuz touring is a lot. Touring sucks a. lot of the times. And if we were just doing it to be. popular or to be famous or to be. relevant, make money, I. I don't think it that's enough to keep. me going cuz being on the road is very. hard. What What keeps us going is those.

stories and seeing how our music at our. at the concert, seeing how our music. affects people. uh and helps them in a positive way. And so I don't know. That's That's just. where we get our fulfillment from. What. do you think it is about your music that. appeals to people that aren't feeling. good. A lot of it came from us not feeling. good. Uh Drew and my brother Matthew are the. main writers for the band. And um. Uh you know, they just our song.

Drowning, Drew wrote that during COVID. when we were driving for Uber trying to. keep the bills paid. We were My goal was. to make 100 bucks a day for Uber. And uh. driving for Uber Mobile, Alabama sucks. Uh I'd have to do like 12 14 hours a day. to get that. To get 100 bucks? Yeah, and. then most times spend So that was just 5. years ago? Yeah. Mhm. Wow. >> Yeah. And we were locally famous at the. time. So I was picking up people. And. they were like, "Oh my god, Rick Clay's. driving." You know what I mean? Get in. Hop in. Really? I don't want to talk about it.

Make sure to leave a tip. That's crazy. I I picked up like And I I was driving a. Hyundai Sonata and I had to I picked up. like. five black dudes. They wanted to get in. the Hyundai Sonata to go to the stripper. club. And I was like, "Y'all can't like. all five of y'all can't fit in here. I. can only take like four at the most." So. they had to leave one behind. And I had. to take them like 30 minutes across. town. That's how Mobile is. Everything. is like a 30-minute drive. And so I took. them 30 minutes across town to the.

stripper club. There's some very. interesting people at nighttime who get. Ubers, just so you know. I'm sure. >> Yeah. And they probably want to talk to. you. Sometimes. The worst was people with bad BO. Oh. Get in your car with bad BO? Yeah. And. then leave it I'm like a Leave that. smell in your car? I'm like a germ-free. So Are you really? Sometimes, yeah. And especially with. smells. So I can't get like a a fresh air. I. feel like I'm suffocating. And this frat guy got in my car one time.

and he's. he was something. And uh he was going to. Lowe's to get like a something for a. beer pong table. He's getting ready to. have a frat party and I had to drive him. to Lowe's. And he had smell like he had. never taken a shower. And so I was just. trying not to freak out. You mean like that. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And um. I was sweating by the time we got out of. the car. [Laughter]. Try heaving up front. >> Driving 100 miles an hour to get him out. the car. I'd pick some people up. Oh,

people just put too much faith in Uber. drivers. I'd pick up people from the. hospital. I I picked up a blind lady from the. hospital. That's what they do. If they. don't have any family, they'll call them. They'll get them a Uber. And I I don't I. had to help this blind lady get into her. house. I picked up this one guy fresh out of. surgery. He couldn't walk. I had to get. him in my car. And they got him a hotel, I guess. So I. had to take him to the hotel. And I had to carry him out of my car and. get him in his bed. And I was just thinking, "What if this. wasn't me?" Right. You know?

>> What if it was a 80-lb lady? Yeah. >> Yeah. Or just somebody who didn't even. care. Get out of my car, you know? It's. just That's just That kind of blew my. mind a little bit how much faith. hospitals put in Uber drivers. It's very. sad. Well, one thing I found out during. COVID that it sounds so stupid that I. didn't know this, but hospitals are. private businesses. Mhm. Mhm. I used to. This is how naive I was. I was like, well, doctors, they go to universities, they do it so that they could become the. best doctor they can. And then they work.

for these hospitals that are set up so. that all the people in the city have. medical care. And this is like part of. the city services. I I really believed. that. I really thought that. And then I. have some friends that are doctors and. they would tell me, "No, no, no." Not. only that, you're incentivized. You're. incentivized to push certain. medications. You're incentivized to do. surgeries that maybe people don't need. and you have to challenge your own. ethics. Mhm. Cuz you you'll be talked. into doing surgeries that this guy you. could kind of could justify it, but.

really you shouldn't get it. I'm like, "Oh, [ __ ] man. Really?" And then, you. know, I've had friends that left and. started their own practices because of. this cuz they tell you like. you just at the end of the day you like, "Why did I go to school?" Like I thought. I was going to school because I wanted. to learn medicine because I thought that. would be really fascinating way to make. a living and very rewarding. You're. helping people that are injured, that. are sick. And then he got just. enlightened to like what the business.

really is. And it's just about numbers. Yeah. He got sick. Instagram Reels will scare. you, too, about all that stuff. >> Oh, dude, I went down a rabbit hole last. night. Just sitting in my bed. I shouldn't have. done this. It was like 9:00. There's no reason for. me to look at dick lengthening videos. What? It just popped up on Instagram, you know, in like the For You section. Yeah, dude. I would stay away from that For You. section. I didn't ask for it. I don't. know what happened. How many videos did.

you watch after that? >> a lot of them. I watched hours worth of. It's [ __ ] horrific, man. Yeah, 3. inches of hidden penis. Everybody's got. it. >> that, man. It's like they're. These guys are getting these things put. in their dicks so that their dicks are. thicker. Ooh. Oh my god. It See, the thing about. YouTube is YouTube You want to see some. videos? Yeah. Might as well. We're here. So I'll I'll pull up my history. YouTube. can actually So the thing is this guy. was like, "Go to my YouTube video and.

you can see the actual surgeries." I'm. like, "No [ __ ] way." And yeah, [ __ ] way. So. YouTube will actually show you the. surgery. We can't show any of this on. camera, right, Jamie? I'm not going to. Why not? You know, it's educational. purposes. But these dudes are just. digging. They're just digging in dicks. and and. and it was just horrific. All right. >> Yeah, once you get on that dark side of. of Instagram, usually it's when Brandon.

sends me Reels. Brandon always be. finding himself on that bad part. And. then he sends it to me and then I'm 30. minutes deep into feeling uncomfortable. with my life. Yeah, why isn't it showing. up in my I don't really want to [ __ ] up. my algorithm by looking for this. We. don't have to. You guys can trust me. I've started. searching on Um so. this guy's got one. This is an ad by. BetterHelp. When you have a problem, when you're feeling down, it's nice. having someone to turn to. Like a. partner who can cheer you up, a friend. to vent to, a parent who can give you.

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like a flounder fillet and he's dipping. it in this liquid. And I'm like, "What. is that?" I'm like, "Is this guy. operating on a dick? Is this what's. going on here?" So it's like this. plastic sheet, this flexible stuff that. looks like like a fillet. And he's like. dunking it in this this stuff. I don't. know what this liquid is. It's like. there's a dark liquid and a clear. liquid. And this guy's explaining he's. going to have so much more confidence. He's going to have so much more girth. and this and and I'm like, "No [ __ ].

way. You're getting your dick operated. on. This is crazy." Like if you have to. get your dick operated on, like, "Okay, I got to do this. I can't believe I got. to do this. I got to buy I got a dick. problem. I got. a dick cancer or something. Like the. dick has to get fixed. I got to get it. fixed." This is just regular dicks that. people like, "I'm not happy with my. dick.". I I wish my dick was hard all the time. And so one of the guys, like his dick. was like 8 inches flaccid all the time.

because he had this [ __ ] tube stuck. in there. This [ __ ] PVC pipe that. they'd stuffed into his hog. And it's. just And so in YouTube, because it's. medical, they could show you. So the guy. just drops his shorts. I'm like, "No. [ __ ] way.". And this guy's got this Frankenpenis. And with like By the way, he's got the. head of a little dick, but the body of a. giant dick. So it's like, you know, like. they they took a guy who's like got a. little tiny body and they popped his.

head off and put it on a bodybuilder's. body. How do you deal with that on a daily. basis? Well, this fellow seems like he was. getting a lot of play. Um he was in the. >> him, dude. He was in the rainbow. community. And it seemed like he was. just slinging that dick all over town. and and quite happy that it never got. soft. >> Quite literally laying pipe. >> Yeah, literally. Literally piping. Do. you ever Oh, Jesus, Jamie. >> It's a banana. That's a banana. Okay. All right. They're showing how they do.

it with a banana. Well, this What is. this one? This is girth. Oh, this is a fat injection. And this. guy was He was dismissing fat. injections. Like fat injections are. nonsense. You need the plastic. I think. I would pass out. You wouldn't even need. to do. Yeah, you wouldn't need anesthesia on me. cuz I would just I'd pass out. And then one guy they install Oh, that's. crazy, too. Well, they they break their. legs and they stretch it out. There's a. guy that I've been watching. What is it? Brian the Sasquatch? Is that That's his. new Instagram?

The guy was already 6 ft tall, but he. wanted to be 6 ft and he's a gigantic. dude, like built like a brick [ __ ]. And he got his legs stretched out like a. year and a half ago and he still hasn't. recovered. Yeah, imagine not. Well, your. your mechanics are all off. So, if you. were an athlete and you were used to. having a legs of a 6-ft man and now your. legs have grown 6 in. Like you're. Yeah, you your arms aren't going to be. proportionate either. >> Well, he had very long arms, unusually.

long arms. >> So, does it look proportionate. >> Totally looks normal. Looks like he's. just a giant dude. For him, but for other people, yeah, it. looks [ __ ] weird. This is the guy So, this is him trying to jump rope. No. So, like he can barely walk. Oh. But, look. at the size of this [ __ ] So, he's got kind of like this is him now. >> aren't even No, he's all messed up. Like. that's why he's got knee braces on. I'm. sure his knees are super confused. Like. he can barely walk. What are we doing to. ourselves? I mean, do you think. eventually you would you would get the.

the strength in the right places? >> Yes, eventually. There's a guy we looked. up this one guy who did it. Remember. that one guy who was running those. athletic drills? But, he was doing sprinting and. plyometrics. Some people have to do it, but I don't think he gained 6 in. This. guy gained like a half a foot. Look, they're going to get to the point. where with CRISPR, they're just going to. edit your genes and there's going to be. no normal looking people anymore. Like. all the interesting personality quirks. that you have to develop because you got. a weird chin. Like all that shit's going.

to go away. >> It's getting weird, man. They're trying. to get rid of Down syndrome. Yeah. Well, probably be a good idea. >> That wouldn't be terrible. Listen, I. mean, there's nothing wrong It's They're. sweet people. You know, my friend Shane, he's got family members that are Down. syndrome and. he loves them very dearly, but if you. could do that and they would be normal. functioning members of society, that. would be a better thing. Just delete. that gene or whatever. Yeah, manipulate. it. They're going to be able to do that. They're going to be able to do a lot of. things. Then we're going to be birthing.

super babies once they like it all The. things usually always seem like they. start good and then they go really bad. and then we're creating superhumans in. the womb. We're at the cusp of some. really, really wild [ __ ] with AI and. with genetic engineering and China, they're I heard I just read something. where they can like they're trying to. grow babies in a artificial womb now. See, that's where That's where ethics. gets a little weird cuz then you're. playing you're playing God then. Well, there's something that happens. There's. communication between the mother and the. child through the entire time. So, are. you giving birth to a [ __ ] sociopath?

You know what I mean? Cuz like this this. baby is not going to get any love, no. oxytocin, there's nothing from the. mother. There's no bond with the mother. When the mother's stressed, the baby. feels stressed. Some of the mother's. brain. something from their brain that goes. into the baby. 100%. There's there's a. lot going There's communication. This is. why like the mother has to like be up on. her nutrients cuz the baby's like taking. nutrients from the mother and if the the. mother doesn't have enough, the baby is. taking it from the mother. So, it's like.

An artificial womb is like you're you're. opening the door for Satan. If you believe in in that, like if you. want a soulless, bizarrely un empathetic. person, what better way than to have no. connection? You know, that was what one. of the things that happened to the. Unabomber. The Unabomber, I watched the. Netflix documentary on him and one of. the things that happened to him when he. was young, he had some sort of a disease. where he had to be separated from his. mom and they put him in a hospital with.

no contact. He had no for a prolonged. period of time as a baby. No one picked. him up, no one held him, no nothing for. a long, long time. And then. as if that wasn't [ __ ] up enough, they. entered in him into the Harvard LSD. studies. And then so, he was in the Harvard LSD. studies and he was they were This is. during the MK Ultra period. So, the MK Ultra period, they were doing. all sorts of experiments with people. through the CIA. One of the things they.

were doing was a thing called Operation. Midnight Climax where they were they. opened up brothels in San Francisco and. they would put two-way mirrors in and. they would dose these Johns up with LSD. So, the ladies of the night were. actually working for the CIA and they. would go and here, have a drink. And the. guy would have a drink and then next. thing he knows he's like. Wow. And they were just trying to. experiment and see This is also a part. of what the Charles Manson family was. about and they were doing all kinds of. [ __ ] with people where they're trying to.

figure out what can we do to humans if. we can manipulate them with LSD and they. did it to Kaczynski. And we saw what. happened with him. And Tuskegee, Alabama. with the syphilis back in the day. Well, that was even more evil and that was. that was different. >> Yeah. Well, it's still like human. experimenting with without them knowing. Yes. >> It's a very scary situation. Well, it. just goes back to what we were talking. about with medicine. The There are. people. that are willing to do things to people.

that are just entirely evil for profit, for whatever justification they can come. up with. No value for human life. >> None. None. And I think one of the. problems with doctors and my friend. who's a doctor told me this. He's like, you just get numb when you see too many. people die. He's like, it's a very it's a very. dangerous state of mind because you just. see someone, you're like, well, he's. going to die and then you go have a. sandwich. We're getting numb as a. society of seeing people die.

Well, the Charlie Kirk thing [ __ ]. opened up my eyes. I never expected so many people would. celebrate that man's murder. That is. evil. That's bizarre. It's just bizarre. Like. normal people that I think think they're. good people and they think they. genuinely think that guy was a bad guy. and I don't think they're right and I. think they were indoctrinated. I don't. agree with everything that Charlie Kirk. said or did. >> care if he was a bad guy or not. I don't. I don't want to see I don't want to see. him I don't want to see anybody die. First of all, he's [ __ ] your age,

right? He's a young guy, right? And he would go. around to college campuses and have. arguments with people or have. discussions with people or have debates. with people. But, it infuriated people. because. they felt like this guy is going against. the progress that was being made in. society, but what he did not feel like. was progress. Like it was a progressive. agenda that was being pushed in most. college campuses. It's a leftist, Marxist sort of agenda.

He didn't feel like that was the correct. way to live and he felt like he had. arguments against it and he want and it. was, you know, it's a business, too, right? Like he developed this big social. media platform because of it and. I you know, I don't like I said, I don't. agree I don't think he some of the. things he said he shouldn't have said, but the fact that people were cheering. when he died, normal people, housewives, moms, like [ __ ] people working at. banks, people working at various. industries, celebrating a man getting.

shot in front of his kids. In the front of the whole world. Like. what the [ __ ] is wrong with us? Yeah, that's that's evil. Um, I don't know. It. kind of I think it it really it made me. feel extra weird, too, because it was an. innocent man. I'll give some leniency, you know, maybe. uh they're doing a public execution of. like a a mass murderer or a child. rapist, you know, something like that, but seeing an innocent man trying to. have a conversation get shot in front of. his kids Yeah. and people celebrate.

that, it made me feel. uh made me feel a certain way. Yeah, it. was not justice, but I think people are. poisoned by social media. I really, really firmly believe that. I think. I think social media has people. completely twisted and I think a lot of. what has people completely twisted is. not even organic. I think it's all. on purpose that you're being manipulated. by foreign governments, by bot farms and. by various elements either in our. government or other governments.

and they do it for their own agenda, for. their own ends and it's dark. There's a. Proverbs verse that. um. it's I can't remember where it's at, but. it's like he who doesn't find me. harms himself and he who loves death. hates me. And that, you know, if you love God. and you you you can't love death. You. can't love somebody getting killed. Right. That's just There's the line. right there. There's evil and good right. there. Yeah. And so, there's there's no justification.

for that and we actually. cuz I we've always made a point in the. band to not get political. We don't care. what your politics are. We just come. listen to our music and come have fun at. our show. We don't care. Every one of us in the band. originally, we all have different views. politically and religiously in some type. of way, but we managed to be. brothers and, you know, being a band. together. So, we I've just gotten and I. love a good political talk, but lately. I've just been so.

jaded from it. So, and I don't want to. ever like divide my fan base or. anything. You know, how you vote or how. you believe is none of my business. We. are here to entertain you. And so, I'd. never want to use my platform to to do. that, but we're just we got so sick of. seeing people put politics above. humanity. We actually we had wrote a song about it. in April in the studio. called People Hating and. that's we weren't going to put it out as. a single. At first, we were going to do.

another another song, but after the the. Charlie Kirk thing, it's just like, hey, we got together and we were like, we. need to put people hating out instead. for the first single because it's. it's we we we've got to start. we've got to stop killing each other. over beliefs and stop hating each other. over beliefs, you know? >> Yeah, it's [ __ ] insane. >> Everybody's race is different. Everybody's experiencing life different. and everybody's trying to figure it out. the same as you are. And it's just really weird now. It's. really weird and it's celebrated to hate. people. And that's that's the weird part and.

most of us know that that's wrong. And. that's why like when this Charlie Kirk. thing happens, there's a giant blowback. and most people recognize like, "Hey, as. a collectively, as as a society, this is. not right. Regardless of whoever that. person is. Whether that person's on the. left or the right, they just got shot in. front of the whole world. This is it's. not a thing to celebrate ever and. especially when you're seeing people on. the left that are supposed to be. progressives. These are supposed to be. the kind, compassionate, inclusive.

people that are celebrating gun. violence. Public execution. Like that's insane. That's that's in a public assassination. That's insane. Yeah, I mean you can't. you can't be for you can't be against. guns and then celebrate when someone is. killed by a gun. >> Right. Yeah, no, it doesn't make any. sense but that's that hypocrisy is just. a symptom of where we where we find. ourselves where we're all just. so many of us are confused. because of the rhetoric online and. again, a lot of that's not normal. It's.

not organic. It's not real. It's not. real people and it's not what you would. ever get in real social circles of. healthy people. >> Yeah. You're only getting it through. this very bizarre filter of just text on. social media and videos where someone's. just talking to the camera celebrating. on social media. It's like. it's very strange. >> Most of the time you walk around because. we travel all over the place and most. time when you walk around stop watching. the news, get off your phone and just. walk around in society. Yeah. It's.

really really not that bad. >> It's not that bad and it that is the key. but most people are not going to get off. their phone. Yeah. And that's what's. [ __ ] Most people most people are just. fully hooked on that damn thing. >> You you think it's weird now, wait till. all these wait till all these iPhone. babies grow up and all these tablet. babies grow up. Yeah, you seen the. videos of taking the tablets away and. the babies are like freaking out having. withdrawals and stuff? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're being raised with. it. Yeah. Our generation was probably. the the last to not have I mean, we.

didn't have technology growing up. We. had dial-up internet and we didn't get. that till I was, you know, I didn't have. a smartphone. I didn't have a smartphone. probably till I was 16. We still have an. Android. Yeah, dude, but that's better. All right, buddy. Why why are you an. Android guy? I've always been an Android. guy cuz I was. I'll give you some I was we we didn't. grow up rich. So. That's my argument. It's just to play. around that. Yeah, we couldn't afford. iPhones and neither I really didn't. care. I didn't even know what an iPhone. was. I just got whatever phone I could.

buy. To text people. My dad got me the I mean. my my parents got me the. you know, the little sidekick and stuff. So I've always been on the Android side. and then. when I started working as a teenager, I. saved up and I bought my own like. smartphone from one of those. cell phone shops on like a in the strip. mall and it's just it was Android. I. never I never really got into the. I never cared first of all what phone. people have. It's you guys who care.

This is I have both. But it is a it's a. weird thing in our society where if a. kid has an Android phone, they're looked. down on. Yeah, dude. It's like something. like 80 plus percent of kids have. iPhones. Man, I was it was after a show. one time. It was after a show one time a. long time ago. and I was talking to this girl. This was. like way back in the day and she was. like, "Yeah, maybe we get your number." And then I. pulled out my phone she was like, "Oh, you have an Android?". I just walked off. I said, "Yeah.".

Just walked off. I don't She didn't like. you anymore? >> Green bubble. Yeah. It was after she. >> That's crazy. >> weird. >> Isn't that weird? It's weird. It's weird. but it's like it just shows you how easy. people fall into tribes. Yeah, you know? Over anything. >> What we were just talking about. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Even down to the to phone if you have. something different than somebody they. automatically don't like you. It can be politics. It can be the the. dang phone in your pocket. Yep. When the. iPhone babies grow up, they're going to. be killing each other over phones.

>> What about the Android babies? Is it the. same? We just want to be left alone, man. See this is the identity. It's a rebel's phone. Oh, rebel's phone. >> choose it if you choose it, it's a. rebel's phone. If if it chooses you, it's like, "One day I want to get a. [ __ ] iPhone. I get out of this job. I'm going to get a real job and I'm. going to get an iPhone." But the people. that choose it, they're they're the. rebels. I'm glad I married an iPhone. user. I'll tell you that. I'm glad my. wife has an iPhone and we can send cool. emojis. >> See see you say that?

I married an iPhone user. and I don't care if she has an iPhone. That's weird. >> You're you're glad that you married an. iPhone user. I don't care that I married. an iPhone user. I love her anyway. It. feels like you're trying to be superior. over him now. >> Exactly. By virtue of calling Brandon's. just like the left. Calling out your. superiority complex, he's being. superior. Yeah, just can't win with. these people. Oh, yeah. Now he's playing. now he's playing victim. He wants to say. it's an American company but they're. made in China. Well, the owner Tim. what's his name? Cook. You don't even. know. He is from he is from where we are. from. I'm supporting a local. Now, has.

he ever put an Apple store in Mobile, Alabama? Absolutely not. Do we deserve. one? Probably not. But. It'll get robbed, dude. Yeah. Maybe the. phone the phone should be made in. America one day. Yeah. >> But American company? Well, if they made. it in America I always said that if they. made an American phone that had like a. little American flag on the back but it. cost $200 more, I'd buy it. Yeah, me. too. Who do you think's going to make. it? Well, it would have to be a company. that start. the problem is the the goal of doing. that is a long goal.

Like you would have to develop the. chips. You'd have to have a plant. Like. Samsung tried to put in a they were. putting. microchip plant in Texas and they had. giant issues because they weren't. getting enough. Like so all of them. don't meet their standards, you know, and a certain percentage of them weren't. and it was a much lower standard than. they needed. And so it didn't work out. Like and you're spending billions and. billions of dollars to find out that you. can't do it. So in China, they've got. that [ __ ] perfected. They've been doing.

it for so long cuz we've relied on them. for so long. >> they have their own phone as well? Oh, they have a lot of phones. Isn't it I. don't forgot what it's called. They have. a special Chinese phone. Well, Huawei. because they were banned here. So Google. and Apple wouldn't let them use their. operating systems because it's basically. a spy device. But guess what? So are all. of them. If you're hanging around with. me, your [ __ ] phone's bugged. Yeah, I. That's something that's always been. something that does not bother me. personally. I don't have anything to. hide first of all. What about your DMs?

Like what we send each other? >> Well, I The problem is not you having. something to hide. The problem is no one. should have access to your private. information. >> Whether or not it's it's you know, bad. It doesn't that shouldn't mean anything. No one should have access. >> No, they should not. >> Because it's an individual. No. individual should be able to look at. your phone. You can't look at theirs. It's it's a power thing. >> And a control thing. But you can. guarantee the government's got. everything. Oh, it's not just the government. It's. other foreign governments. Especially if.

you're a controversial person. Like. foreign governments, there's a thing. called Pegasus, too. All they need is. your phone number. That's all they need. So if you're not using encrypted apps, all they need is your phone number. And. even if you are using encrypted apps, the government can get into those. You know, when Tucker Carlson was trying. to interview Putin, the the government. contacted him and said, "We know you're. trying to interview Putin. We were. looking in your Signal app." And he was. like, "What? Wow. That's wild. >> read my [ __ ] Signal app?". Yeah. So it's just like the government's. saying, "Back off, China. Spying on.

Americans is our job.". Well, because of the Patriot Act and. because of a lot of other things that. they've passed in this country, a lot of. it's legal. They're allowed to. They're. allowed to spy on you. I think they. would can make it illegal and we still. wouldn't know. Well, it probably would. be illegal but it wouldn't matter. They. would find some sort of a [ __ ]. loophole. And or they'd pass some bill, they'd. stick it in some farm bill, something. We think like, "Oh, this is good. We're. going to help the farmers." And you look. in they're like, "Hey, what's this doing in there?" Yeah, I.

seen there's some some stuff in the in. the big beautiful bill where it's like. they were trying to sell some national. park land or something. Yes. Yes, they. were trying to sell public land. That. was a part of the big beautiful bill. Yeah, I was one of the people that was. trying very hard to try to get that out. of there. I remember that. It's [ __ ]. sick. >> I thought that was illegal. It should. be. It should be. They're trying to change. laws. That's the thing. Like foreign. countries owning land around military. bases. That's crazy. >> That's weird, too. Where where was Yeah, why is that happening? You can't do that.

in China. Meanwhile, China owns land. around military bases. Yeah, there's a. lot of stupidity with our freedom but. that doesn't mean the government should. be [ __ ] spying on you. The thing is. in other countries, they just are. Like. in China, they just are and you know, and the argument is if we want to. compete with China, we have to do what. they're doing which I think is insane. >> Aren't they about to start or they. already have the social point system? Social credit score. Yeah, social credit. score. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so if you jaywalk.

and they get a photo of your face so. they have biometrics, they get a photo. of your face, they know it's you. Your. thing gets dinged. Now you can't buy a. plane ticket. Mhm. It's like Black. Mirror stuff, dude. Yeah, oh, it's just. like that. Well, they're passing that in. the UK right now. In the UK, you need a. digital ID to combat, ready for it? Illegal immigration. Well, [ __ ]. you let the illegal immigrants in on. purpose. Like you guys knew what you. were doing and now you're using it as a. justification for digital ID. I just. watched one this morning actually about. it was a British judge. A guy got.

sentenced I saw that. Yeah. >> For however many years for 20 months. Social media post. >> a social media post. It's it's good. It's about immigration. It's getting. complaining about immigration. It's. wild. >> Yeah, it's wild. It's crazy. And you. know, it's the best way to control. people, you know, and keep them at each. other's throats. Like bringing a bunch of people that the. people that live there don't want there. and let them duke it out and then. start instituting. tighter and tighter restrictions and. control. Yeah. I see I see all that.

happening in a in a always makes me. wonder. I wonder how it's going to go down here. because we are the different ones with. the with the guns and stuff. I wonder. how far it's going to go here before. something happens. Something pops off. They're going to try. They're going to try. They're going to. try and they're going to keep keep keep. trying. They're going to continue to try. and they're going to try to sneak it in. and if it's not for independent. journalists that call that [ __ ] out we. would be in real trouble. It would have. already happened. It would already. happen. They would have put it They were. trying to institute a vaccine passport.

and the vaccine passport would have be. attached to a digital ID so that you. would know. But that digital ID would. then be transferred to a social credit. score and and then they wanted to do a. carbon tax. So they want to do a thing that tracks. your carbon. So tracks how many miles. you drive, tracks your purchases, so. tracks how much carbon you're com-. you're com-. commit com-. you're contributing to the environment. It's it's crazy. And somehow paying more. money will. will stop that. Oh yeah, that's what we. need to do. You just need to tax people.

more. Yeah. Tax people more and it it's. all going to come and make normal in the. end. It'll be perfect. Utopia. Farmer. with cows, you got to pay taxes on those. cows cuz they're farting. Well, how about another country? They're. killing cows. They're they're forcing. them to kill cows cuz these cows are. producing too much methane. So they're. saying you have to kill 2,000 cows, 1,000 cows. Yeah, so they control your food. That's. exactly what it is. I remember when all those uh. those chicken farm or chicken houses. burnt down.

Yeah. >> That was really weird, too. Yeah, it's real weird. But the chickens. chicken houses do burn down. What's also. weird is they they had to kill a bunch. of chickens cuz some of these chickens. had bird flu. Yeah. Well, hopefully that's true. People's livestocks Brandon popping up. dead, too. Bunch of cattle. That was a a. couple of years ago. Now this one farmer posted a video like. all of his cattle were just dead in the. in the field. >> in the field and then they said it was. cuz of the heat or something, but this. farmer had just tons of dead cows just. all of a sudden. It was going on the. same time as the the chicken houses.

burning down. So it could have just. been, you know, news adding on the news. kind of thing. This is what's in right. now. Hm. Maybe it's aliens. Yeah, maybe. so. The cattle mutilations. Well, I mean. the alien thing is the alien thing is. just another interesting topic. Like you. see you I'll get random There's random. times where people are seeing all these. crazy things in the sky. and uh it's like a big deal for a few. days and then you don't really talk. about it anymore. Did you see the that. one thing that lady was filming? She's. like, "Hi, do you know Jesus?".

The wheels were like going crazy? No, what is that? It's like a It's also hard. to know what's real. You know? Yeah, she and it the. interesting thing about that though it. is it somebody in the Bible described. seeing something. uh one of the angels or something. Yeah, and the wheels on wheels That's. what this thing was and she said, "Do. you know Jesus?" And then it the wheels. would just start spinning really really. fast and. I was like, "Whoa, man. Hope that's. real. That's pretty cool." Oh man, is this it? Yeah.

That looks like a rocket launcher. She zooms in on orb and speaks to it. Sorry, she says Jesus loves me. She's. definitely have an Android. Look how. [ __ ]. It's going to It's going to turn into. the moon here in a second. Watch. Well, that's the thing if you zoom in on. stuff, it especially stuff through the. atmosphere, things look very blurry. Like if you zoom in on stars, they.

totally look like they're some sort of a. [ __ ] spaceship. Yeah, see how it's. just a star. She said when she says, "Do. you know Jesus?" it starts like uh. starts moving. I think it's towards the end, but yeah, you get the idea. It's just. Yes, that looks like. kind of looks like a weather balloon. Maybe it's one of them Chinese spy. balloons again. Play play that. Let me. hear her say it. Jesus loves me. Look look look look. Look. Oh, you know. Jesus?

You know Jesus? You know Jesus? Jesus is awesome, isn't he? Yeah, Jesus rocks. But if that is real, dude, and that. random lady just filming that Well, that. is the weirdness of the people that. think that they can call these things. in. So there's a a group of people that. supposedly successfully they sit out and. they have this intention. They go out to. the desert in a clear night sky and they. have this intention to call these things. in and they're all silently calling.

these things in and apparently it's. effective. Occasionally, I don't know. how often, but it's not zero. Sometimes. these things show up. Who's that guy? He. was on Shawn Ryan. Um He's an old man. Chris something. Uh. but he people like celebrities go out to. his Uh-huh. his land and he's like, "I. can call these things on command. They'll show up." And people go out to. see it. Yeah. Um. I don't know about all that. Yeah, it's. hard. >> You should go there. You should go. there. Investigate.

>> Yeah, I don't want to. >> People will trust what you say. Yeah, but the problem is I don't know what I'm. seeing. >> tell anybody. Just go out there. yourself. The thing is like you don't. know what you're seeing. It could be a. It could be a drone. It could be. anything. It could be [ __ ] Starlink. This guy said Do you have to pay to go. do it? That's a good question. I can't remember that guy's name. It's. driving me crazy, but yeah, he uh he. wrote a book called UFOs of God. And uh I started listening to it. and I'm just terrible about reading. books and stuff. So I got like the first. three chapters in, but.

Um he's worked with he's NASA showed up. at his house. Here it is. Chris Bledsoe. Yeah, I watched his. Shawn Ryan, I think that's the guy's. name is. I watched his podcast. It was an. interesting listen. And so. this guy, what does he think these. things are? Um. they're related with God somehow. They're uh That's what Tucker believes. Yeah, I I kind of I believe it, too. >> A lot of people believe that these. things are not from another world, that.

they're they've always been here Yeah. and they're a part of our world that. just don't show themselves to us. Does. this guy have videos of these things? Watch this with an open heart, okay? Show me what you got. Okay, something moving. Oh. There's a lot. Okay, what the [ __ ] is that? I think you should go out there and take. him out. Just don't tell anybody. They. could be bugs. Yeah, but that thing moving across the. sky is that is odd.

That thing's very odd cuz that's clearly. moving. It's I mean you see flashes. But. the thing is it's like you're zooming. in, right? So you get distortion, right? So you don't know and then see it's. going behind the cloud. That. you don't know what that is. >> Have you ever seen the space station. flyover? Do How Have you seen the space station. flyover? Yeah, I've seen it once. Does it look like that? Yeah, it's. really slow moving, but yeah, it's just. a tiny little It's usually just one, though.

Well, yeah, the rest of those that's the. rest of that stuff kind of looks. Probably bugs. Yeah, that looks like. bugs. That's the problem is it like if you're. zooming in on this thing, the stuff that. flies in between that looks like it's. moving really fast and flying across. incredible space. Yeah, that easily could be bugs. But maybe not. That's the problem. Interdimensional. angelic beings. Is that what he's. calling them? That's what it says. There's more. I'd like to see some. documentation.

Go out there, dude. Wait till the end. What happens in the end? It goes behind. the cloud. Oh. They simply come when I when we ask in. prayer. Countless others were healed, too. Joe, just go out there and see it and. don't tell anybody. I don't want to waste my time. I feel like if they want to show. themselves, they should just go ahead. and do it. I think they will eventually maybe if. it's going to happen. That's a lot. Maybe if things get real. messy in here. Yeah. We'll find out.

Isn't there verses about there will be. signs in the sky? I don't know. Well, there's a lot of. verses about the sky and about I've been. in the into the book of Enoch over the. last couple of Yeah, I was wanting to. pull that up. I was wanting to talk. about that. So Rep Li came in here and. she was explaining to me the book of. Enoch and I never really got into it. She's like, you know, it could have been. included in the Bible and it was a part. of the the Dead Sea Scrolls, but. >> half was, right? The well, the book of. Enoch is in the Dead Sea Scrolls. The. whole book? Yeah, and the.

at least part is the problem with the. book of the Dead Sea Scrolls rather is a. lot of it is deteriorated and it's. missing chunks and stuff, but. the book of Isaiah is in the Dead Sea. Scrolls and it is identical word for. word. Wes Huff was explaining that to a. version of it that was a thousand years. older, which was the most recent version. before they found the Dead Sea Scrolls. in the 1940s. Which is wild. That is. wild. That's the book that God predicts. his own coming to Earth and his own. death and all that. Well, the book of. Enoch is the one that predicts that this.

is what talks about the watchers in the. sky and that these gods made with humans. and created the Nephilim. That is bizarre. >> Well, I've listened listened to it twice. now and I keep going back over it and. just rewinding and going, "What are they. saying? Like what what were they trying. to describe?" Cuz this sounds completely. insane. >> When you get into like. the cuz isn't there like Egyptian stuff. where there there's like.

men coming down from space and like. Stargates there's all sorts of weird. [ __ ] That to me is just like fallen. angels, you know, it's all kind of lining up in some kind. of way or another. These. whatever rebelled against God and came. down here men from the sky came down. here and were pretty much posing as gods. and demanding people worship them and is. it Enoch where they teach them about. money and teach them about sorcery. sorcery and and metallurgy. There's all.

sorts. of like weird they talk about. incantations. and then like how to get out of. incantations one gets put on you so and. you got to think this is pre Jesus and. so God is separated from man. So we're. just walking around as people like not. knowing what's going on. and these things come down and they're. boring Giants and stuff is like you. know, I'd probably think it's a God too. for God's sake, you know, cuz there. wasn't. what was the Jews even a thing when the.

Book of Enoch was written sure yeah, they it was they were God's chosen. people. the people that argued over whether or. not the Book of Enoch should be included. in the Canon were rabbis. Yeah, it's. it's all so confusing is there any. explanation of why it would be left out. well, they felt like it didn't didn't. drive with the Torah. I think that's the reason why it was. left out. Well, I mean when I say that like that. one point the Jews were God's chosen.

people is like they knew. the God the one the I am the one true. God and but the rest of the world didn't. really know what was going on and so. they were worshipping other gods and. so. like aside from the Jews. the rest of humanity seeing these things. walking around it's like I'm sure they. would think that's a God, you know, I'm. sure they would worship that what what. else do they have to believe well. something did come and visit ancient. humans. I'm I'm in the middle of this.

Richard Dolan book and it's it's a very. interesting book on UFOs and Richard. Dolan who's very like objective. scientifically minded author. one one of the things he's talking about. is his gene expression. It's. a deal. that started this gene start it was. introduced through breeding. So one of. the things that we know is that it came. into the human population somewhere. around 40,000 years ago. and that this all geneticists agree that.

this was introduced through. crossbreeding. So the idea was was it. introduced by Neanderthals what it was. it introduced by Denisovans like what. what type of human with the promise they. don't find that gene expression in any. other ancient human like they don't find. it Neanderthals they don't find it but. they do find it in Asia. like in Mongolia most people have it the. rest of the world is like 70% of the.

people have it and they think it's. responsible for creativity. They think. it's responsible for this this giant. change in the artwork that people start. producing around 40,000 years ago and. his. assertion or his question the hypothesis. is that it was introduced by some other. species and this is also part of what is. talked about not just in the Book of. Enoch but also in the Sumerian text. They they talk about. what happened that created human beings.

and so what he's talking about is this. one woman of that was an academic. I. forgot her name but she wrote these. books about it where she believes that. human beings are some sort of a hybrid. species. and that we were genetically manipulated. to be what we are now and I think. going back to the flood because apparent. like every other. religion has some type of evidence of a. great flood. So at one point or another if God's. creation.

did get corrupt. that was pretty much the great reset of. I've got a he had to get rid of all that. that he didn't create and. I forgot where I was going with that but. yeah, but they do all have a flood myth and. now now because of the Younger Dryas. impact theory. We know that there most likely was. massive floods all over the earth. somewhere around 11,800 years ago yeah,

and I just think about stuff like that. when they found this skull that they. can't link anything to or. find stuff that doesn't they can't link. anything to is like we don't really know. what happened a long time ago. We can. pretend that we did but I personally. believe there was a. an advanced civilization. way back in the day before all that and. there's a lot of evidence that points to. that. Yeah, there there there's also new. evidence that just emerged out of China. They found a Homo Sapien skull that's 1. million years old. Well, it's China.

Yeah, but it doesn't matter. It's still. it's like it's it's an actual Homo. Sapien skull that was carbon dated to a. million years old. So that that predates. what we thought of as the emergence of. Homo Sapien by 500,000 years and that's. just what we found, right? They might. find another one 6 months from now. that's 2 million years old so like they. don't really know. We're piecing things. together. We're piecing the past. together with a very limited amount of. information very limited evidence and.

evidence of fossils. It's very difficult. to make a fossil. Most fossils they just. don't they don't happen. The animals eat. the bones the bones deteriorate in the. Sun like there's a very specific set of. circumstances that has to happen for. something to be fossilized. Haven't they. found some fossils with like grass still. in their mouths. and so they were wondering how could. they found some type of evidence of. fossils where it seems like this animal. was fossilized instantly. Well, not not even fossilized just.

preserved instantly. Like this is woolly. mammoth. There's quite a few of them. Yeah, they think a lot of that was what. happened during the impact. So Randall. Carlson talks about this quite a bit. There's there's multiple places on Earth. where there's a a large number of. animals that seem to have died. instantaneously and weirdly like with. broken legs like broken mammoth legs. straight like over like a a large field. of them thousands of them there like. what happened like some sort of an event.

must have happened where they were wiped. out or the the ones that were in this. area were wiped out instantaneously and. he thinks it's probably some sort of a. collision. What's a mass casualty of some sort? I. mean what else can cause that? Well, not. only that 65%. something like that of all North. American megafauna died off at the exact. same time all of it around that that. same Younger Dryas impact theory time. between 11,800 years ago and 10,000. years ago. everything woolly mammoth.

African lion African cheetah. There was. all sorts of giant sloth all sorts of. weird animals that all died off in. America around the exact same time that. they think this flood happened. and used to be just complete. speculation, but now they have find core. samples where they're they're finding. iridium that indicates iridium is very. common in space and very rare on Earth. So when they find a layer of iridium it. indicates there's some sort of an impact. interesting. wild [ __ ] man because it could happen to.

us at any moment, you know, there's this. guy Avi Loeb who's a professor out of. Harvard who is saying that some of these. objects that we're seeing in space. They're they're moving in very bizarre. ways. They're enormous. They they they. have much more mass and much more speed. They're interstellar objects and he's. speculating whether or not they're. they're alien like that one passing by. pretty soon, right? I've been following. that one of the ones he's talking about. They think it's a spaceship. They think. it's something you know, whatever it is.

for it to come outside of our solar. system on this path is just very. bizarre. Other astronomers say yeah, but it just. might be unique. Like there's there's a. lot of stuff in space. They're finding. through the James Webb telescope that. they didn't understand that so they had. this idea of the universe being 13.7 or. whatever it is billion years old, but. now they're finding these galaxies that. were formed far too quickly far like. after the Big Bang and so now they're.

starting to say well, this might be an. indication that it's quite a bit older. and that maybe it's not 13 maybe the Big. Bang is not 13.7 billion years, but. that's just as far back as we can look. and as they get better and better. equipment and better and better ways of. looking they'll be able to find more. evidence and more information that gives. them more questions and less answers. It's really weird. It's like there's a. quote by Dennis McKenna and he said that. once the bonfire of knowledge expands.

the surface layer of ignorance is. exposed. more of a surface layer of so the more. you see and the more you learn the more. you realize oh I don't know [ __ ]. that's what they're kind of finding out. about space. It's like they know a lot. but they don't they don't know a lot in. comparison to what's out there. More. questions pop up than answers. I mean. it's it's [ __ ] this is wild too how. much of that we were taught in school is. like fact and then grow up and like wait. a minute. We don't we don't really know.

what's going on. I didn't even know. there was dwarf planets in our solar. system. There's planets that aren't like. regular planets, but they I didn't learn. about those. I might have learned that 3. years ago. Pretty wild to think that there 32 that. we that they're there and we never. learned about them. Well, there's also. the speculation that there's something. big that's outside of the Kuiper Belt. There's like some other planet that it. might even be a dwarf star. Or what is. it called? I forget what they're called, a brown dwarf. But that we might have a binary star.

system and that the star might have died. off and it's like in a far outside of. our own sun, outside of that orbit. Wow. >> So there's something there's this thing. called the Kuiper Belt that's outside of. Pluto and it's a a belt of objects and. that's one of the reasons why Pluto got. declassified as a planet it is. a little too small to be a planet and it. seems like there's a lot of these. objects out there and then they found a. couple more and they're saying okay it's. not a planet but there seems to be a.

drop off after that which indicates. something that it is of a large mass. exists. >> Interesting. But it's a little too far. for us to be able to look at right now. So it's a lot of just speculation. What. was that one. paper that we looked at once that they. they had they had documented a planet. out there they were calling Planet X but. it's like. >> The Earth-like? Was it like a. Earth-like? They don't know what it is. I mean this is all this is the [ __ ]. Sumerian text stuff too cuz they talk.

about this planet called Nibiru that. comes within an elliptical orbit every. 3,600 years and [ __ ] things up and. that's where the Anunnaki live. They come visit us. This is this guy. Zecharia Sitchin. It's fascinating. stuff. It's so fun. It's so fun but might be. full of [ __ ] In fact there's a whole. website called sitchiniswrong.com. that refutes it but I'm too dumb to know. who's right and who's wrong. I I still. interesting to talk about and theorize, you know? Oh yeah. Well the Sumerians. had a detailed map of the solar system.

6,000 years ago. Bizarrely with the sun. in the center and all the planets that. we know of in the relative size and the. relative order. Like the ones that are. the the right not exactly the right size. because they're so [ __ ] huge. But the. bigger ones are in the bigger place and. it's it shows this map of the solar. system on this clay tablet from 9,000 or. 6,000 years ago. Like how did they know. that? >> Yeah. It goes back to the advanced. civilization man.

I don't know. I just really think they. >> do you think? I think it was a different. type of advance like not power lines and. stuff like that. I think they honed into. like natural energy. from the Earth like I heard something. about the pyramids may have been like. some type of a power plant cuz they just. found where those pillars go down in the. ground so long. >> That stuff's wild. That stuff's wild. I. This dude Ben Van Kerkwijk. and they've used that same technology to. find this enormous labyrinth that. existed but that was also documented.

historically. Herodotus talked about it. and different historians have talked. about it. This labyrinth that's even. more impressive than the pyramids. underground and inside they've so using. this technology they've found this 40 m. it's 40 m this metallic they don't know. what kind of metal it is but there's a. metallic Tic Tac shaped object that's 40. m long at the center of this labyrinth. So they built a dam in the 1960s to help.

the farmers out and the dam. unfortunately [ __ ] up the water table. so this labyrinth is now flooded. So you. can't get in it unless they do something. to change the water and you know change. how the water's channeled or build a. tunnel inside of it but the water table. has made it impossible to get into it. without doing that. But this thing. because of this tomography this ground. penetrating radar they know that there's. an enormous metallic object. from thousands and thousands of years. ago that's 40 m long.

Are they actively trying to. figure it out like get in there? >> There are researchers that are but the. problem is there's a lot of resistance. from the Egyptian government. >> Yeah. They don't want they don't want. any monkey wrench in the timeline that. they've been teaching forever. >> Yeah. I've I've seen one article they. just discovered some ancient city. and it was like a. they discovered something it was related. to Christianity like they discovered. something Christ is king and but long. story short the whole entire.

project just got shut down and they. passed a law you can't dig there for. like 20 years. I think you're talking. about Göbekli Tepe. Yeah. Göbekli Tepe. yeah Göbekli Tepe. which is in Turkey. They found that by. accident. It was a farmer a farmer was. I think it was a sheep herder actually. He found some stone that was in the. ground he's like kicked at it and was. like cleaned it off a little bit and. then realized it had a right angle to it. and was like what the hell's this? Then. he dug a little deeper and then they.

called in the archaeologists. They said. hey we got something here and then they. discovered that there's these concentric. circles and these huge stone columns and. 3D animals and they've only uncovered 5%. of it so far. >> Wow. And they kind of stopped digging. because they get enormous amount of. tourist revenue where people want to. come to the site and they didn't want to. [ __ ] that up and. you know there's a lot lot of lot of. weirdness when you let these governments. decide what can and can't be explored.

because through ground penetrating radar. they realized that this this site even. though they've only. excavated 5% of it is one of many many. sites that are in that area. And the age of it is really fascinating. because this was intentionally covered. somewhere around 11,000 years ago. So that means that someone decided to. cover this all up with dirt 11,000 years. ago which means they don't even know how. old it is. It could be 2,000 3,000 years.

older than that. They don't know. And. it's just weird to just stop finding. that out. Well they're getting a lot of pressure. now so they might start opening up the. excavation of it and they did a lot of. stupid [ __ ] like they covered it with. olive trees for what for some reason. Yeah. Like I think because olive trees. are protected so. if they covered it with olive trees you. couldn't dig into the ground you. couldn't remove the olive trees. It was. like a way to stop people from looking. around. Interesting. >> Yeah. But now they they realized that.

the olive trees the roots are actually. destroying the artifacts that are. underneath. So now they're pulling the olive trees. and you know there's discussions about. continuing the excavations. I got off on. a giant kick one time reading about. and it's like anytime the Smithsonian. got involved Oh yeah. >> shut down. Yeah. >> You know. The the giant stuff is weird. cuz there's a lot of documentation of. people finding giants like enormous. >> Giant bones. >> 10 15 foot tall humans and then there's. also the Nephilim in the Bible that are.

giants that are that consumed. everything. You know that were I mean David and. Goliath there's giants in the Bible and. it makes you think like okay is it a. giant like the mountain from The Game of. Thrones? You know like Just a big old. warrior. Yeah. Maybe. Cuz people were. shorter and relatively back then. Right. but but probably some people weren't. >> Yeah. If they lived in some places where. they had more resources and better. genes. Pituitary gland problems, you. know, where you have guys 7 foot 11. plus, you know? Yeah. But this seems.

different. The the giants in the Bible. and the giants in historical accounts it. seems different. It seems like it's a. totally different species of human. And. again if we just found this guy recently. that's a million years old and now we. know. So forever they were saying that. human beings. I mean they the timeline used to be Homo. sapiens emerged 50,000 years ago and. then they moved it to 150 then they. moved it to 250 300. It is as they find. more information. Now they have to push. it to a million. You know and if one day.

they they find a [ __ ] head as big as. this table like what do they do? What do. they do about that? Do they even tell. us? >> think they would. But why wouldn't they? That's what's weird. Like why wouldn't. they? Isn't that crazy? But we all. agree. We all agree that if they did. find a giant they probably wouldn't tell. us. Yeah. But not until they did their. own. you know figured it out for themselves. or tested on what they want. Well if. they want people to know but I don't. know why they wouldn't want people to. know. Like why do I why am I convinced. that they would hide that? Well if there.

is. antichrist on his way. and he his goal he already knows he. lost. So his goal at this point is just. to destroy as much as possible you know. get as many souls as possible. And. finding stuff like that that would prove. the Bible more true would turn. more people to Christianity or to God. the one true God and. I could see where if there is like some. type of spiritual force that is in. somewhat control then. I could see that's the only way I can. make sense of it is like why cover up.

progress? Why why not tell people the. truth? Well I think it's ego and that might be. also related to good and evil in a lot. of ways because. >> Loving yourself and not you're supposed. to love God over yourself. >> Right. And being the person that has the. knowledge and the person that. distributes that knowledge and is the. gatekeeper of it is a very intoxicating. thing for a lot of these academics and. if all of a sudden something comes along. that. and this is the speculation about what. happened with the Smithsonian that they. took that stuff and just [ __ ] tucked. it away. Mhm. And femur bones They would.

want to have you know secretly do their. own tests without anybody knowing about. it. I know but. to what end? At what point in time? Before everybody else knows they would. already have the answers. I don't know. But wouldn't there be a time where. someone would want to like be the guy. who discovered it all and get all the. credit for it? Like that's why it. doesn't make sense. To me to me. if somebody knows God it is freeing in a. lot of way and. you realize that. you know no government is above you and.

no man is above you. You God is above. you and you serve God and if you can. keep people away from God. you're you're that much more susceptible. to being a slave to something else and. that's something else. Whatever evidence. or anything that kind of proves that God. exists. >> Yeah. Anything that's going to prove. God's existence I think that's going to. be the main thing they shut down. Right. Right, like the Shroud of Turin is an. excellent example. >> Yeah. That one's an interesting one. >> That's a weird one, man. That's a weird. one. There's a lot of people that go out. of their way to try to disprove it. But.

when you you get into the dating of the. cloth, so it used to be they were saying. that it was only a few hundred years. old. But now they're saying that the the. the way the cloth is made, the it is the. cloth is made that's exactly consistent. with the time that Jesus was alive and. that more tests need to be done to find. out the exact age of it because the. problem is like you don't know like what. piece they studied and you know you're. not studying the entire thing and also. the image of it is bizarre. Because the.

image of it you really only see Jesus. when it's a negative of it. >> Mhm. And they don't know how that image. was put on there. It wasn't stained, it. wasn't burned on there. They don't know. what caused it. >> Okay. >> of radiation. >> somebody recreated it with gamma. radiation, I think. But the only problem. so it would just be it it would need a. it would need to be an extreme source of. light to do that. But the only problem. is that would have vaporized the heat. from the light would have vaporized it.

realistically. So they're wondering, well if light did do it, how was there. no heat? Right. >> So if Christ did raise and pass through. it, there's also x-ray images in the. shroud apparently. Well, you see this. when you see the shroud in negative. Like Jamie, pull up an image of it. It's. very strange. Like it shows the lash. marks on his body. >> Yeah. It shows his facial features. It. shows the holes where his wrist is, where he was crucified. It's very. strange stuff. So. >> Cuz like for someone to do that as a. hoax and to just not not paint it to.

just to do it in some very weird Um go. to that Yeah, that one right where your. cursor is over that. Make that big. >> recently said it's fake. They've. recently said it's fake. >> and forth on that. >> is like who is the person who's they? Right. The the Catholic Church is who. owns it. >> It says they've been debunking it for. 650 years. Well, 650 years ago they didn't even. have carbon dating. So what were they. doing to debunk it back then? There's a. bunch of people that want to debunk it.

It says there's a document they found. >> A document? >> were talking about I mean it I don't. know. >> Where they talked about it being. [ __ ]. >> Yeah, I've also seen. >> is people I'm sure called it and called. [ __ ] on it a long time ago. >> have talked about ways that some of that. stuff could have been done. >> Sure, but how would someone figure out. that 500 a thousand 2000 years ago, whatever it is? >> It could have been 300 200 150 60 years. ago. >> Well, it's 650 years if they've been. debunking it for 650 years you got to.

assume it's at least 650 years old. Well. So the the thing is like see between. it's been dated between 1355 and 1382. Um so. >> was the document. The text? What text? >> That we're talking about here, not the. shroud. What is the the text about? Medieval document has revealed the. authenticity of the shroud. that many believe wrapped a crucified uh. was being called into question perhaps. as early as 1355. Okay, well that means. that it existed 1355.

Yeah. Um description depictions by. clergymen. See, it's hard. deceptions. Oh, excuse me. Deceptions by. clergymen. His writings now considered. the oldest written rejection of the. relic predate the previous earliest. documented criticism by the Bishop of. Troyes, Pierre d'Arcis in 1389. So. either way, we know it's at least 600. plus years old and we we know that the. way that it was put on there was not. stained. Yeah.

>> It was not painted. It's very strange if. you look at it like that, they didn't. even know that until they came up with. photography, until they could take an an. image of it and make it a negative. They. didn't see the face of Jesus in all the. the depictions. Mhm. It's like this. image right here is like you look at. that, the Shroud of Turin like yeah, I. could say call [ __ ] whatever. But. then you see the negative I go go back. to those other images. So this is what. it looks like when you run it through. when you use modern photography and turn.

it into a negative. That's really weird. that this wasn't that they didn't know. about this in the 1300s. Yeah. A new study says it's something else. So. they're going to have studies forever. that debunk it. And one thing that. academics love to do, they love to call. everybody [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Every every everybody's an idiot. This is all fake. This is [ __ ] But. whatever that is, man, when you're. just go back to the the negative ones. The one that you just had. The one that. Yeah, that one, please.

That's weird as [ __ ] to me, man. It's. weird as [ __ ] that it didn't you. couldn't see it normally and you only. see it when they make a negative of it. That is so strange that someone would go. out of their way to fake something in. that way Yeah. >> where it only exists in a negative. Well, they don't even know how it. happened. Right. >> Exactly. They don't know how to I mean. they're saying they could reproduce it. today, but I don't think anybody has. And also, how are you going to reproduce. it to such an extent with so much detail.

that is that matches the biblical. depiction of the crucifixion? Yeah. Including the holes in the wrist, the. lash marks on his back the the the wound. in his side. It's it's all really weird. At the very least it's fascinating. The. very least it's fascinating. >> Mhm. I mean it's really interesting stuff. To. me that that. seeing that I really don't even care how. old people think it is or like figure. out how they did that first. To me it's. like if this is Not only that, how did.

they do that 600 [ __ ] years ago? >> Yeah. Or 2000 years ago or whatever. really whatever age it actually is. >> one article last year where they were. they found dirt particles that matched. you know that that traced back to. Jerusalem. So. >> Yeah. It's. Like I said, they've been debunking it. and saying it's authentic and debunking. it. It seems like for the last five or. 10 years now. Uh it's a very weird. stuff. Just where are we at right now. with it? >> that one church in Ethiopia that's. supposed to have the Ark of the Covenant.

there? Yeah. >> And all the people that that guard it, they all get cataracts and they wind up. dying of radiation. >> that one. You ever heard of that? I. don't know about that because. the Ark of the Covenant was when God the. Father's presence was here on Earth. Not. through Jesus Old Testament. The I Am. was down here and that's what he resided. in. And you had to do all these things. to be in his presence or you would. literally just die. die because. you know, he's holy and to me it's like. lightness and dark cannot exist in the. same place. So.

whatever, but the God's God the Father's. presence isn't there anymore. So I don't. understand why it would still be messing. people up. Well, we don't know what they. were writing down, right? The problem. with all of ancient all ancient. religious texts, let's assuming there. was real events. Mhm. The problem is a. lot of these things were told as an oral. tradition for a hundred 500 a thousand. years before they ever even written. down. And then they write them down.

They write them down in Aramaic, they. write them down in Hebrew, they write. them and then they have to translate it. and they translate it to Greek and Latin. and then eventually English. You're. you're missing a lot along the way. When. I read these things, when I read the. Bible or if I read the Book of Enoch or. any of these ancient texts or. I'm I'm always trying to say, okay, what. what would what were they trying to. document? Like what was the original. event? Like what actually happened? And. forget The problem is people are really.

bad. at telling the truth. Like human beings. when they see something fantastic, they. always add their own little flavor to. it. People add their own little thing to. it. If they are of a certain belief, they're going to attach that belief to. whatever this thing was. So it's. it's no question that these people held. whatever that was in such high regard. and it meant so much to them that they. like like the Book of Isaiah where it's. verbatim that they wrote it verbatim for.

a thousand years. Back when they started. out, they were writing things down on. animal skins. Mhm. >> That's one of the things about the the. Dead Sea Scrolls that's so fascinating. is they had to do genetic testing. So. they're writing these things down on. these animal skins and they had to make. sure that the skin of this one is the. same cow as the skin of this one. So if. they do like genetic testing to make. sure it's the same cow skin. So okay, we. got all the skin from this cow and it's.

in this group of of text, so start to. start decoding it. >> That's an interesting way of doing it. That's wild. >> It's wild. >> have never thought of that. >> And like Wes Huff said how they used to. write things like they'd leave stuff out. back then because it wasn't required. back then. They would just write down. the basics. I watched that Wes Huff. thing and that was very interesting of. >> Very. He's fascinating. >> He's brilliant, man. I've watched a. bunch of stuff on him. >> Very. Very brilliant. But it's also it's. again, what were they trying to. document? >> Yeah. >> There's something It's clearly something.

was going on back then. >> Did. >> Something happened. >> Did you ever read that story of. somewhere in the Bible, I can't remember. where it's in the Old Testament, somebody stole the Ark? Well, some tribe. stole the Ark and like the next day. they the next morning like everybody was. dead from stealing the Ark and they. pretty much said, hey, come get this. thing, take it back. Yeah. Yeah, we. don't want it. We're good. Well, that's what people. believe is in this church in Ethiopia. >> Yeah. >> You know, cuz there's these Ethiopian. Jews who also their Bible is the Book of. Enoch. Yeah.

>> Do we have an image of this? No. No, you. can't see it. Nobody can get I say send. in the seals. We need to find out what. the. >> Yeah. Find out what the [ __ ] is in. there, bro. Put these guys in hazmat. suits and let's get to the bottom of You. got it, it's going to be ours. Well, I. yeah, you would imagine. >> We're going to take it. Or they might. not know at all. Well, what would happen. with the remote viewers if remote. viewing is real? Get remote viewers in a. room and We have talked about that. topic. >> brother's big on like he went down a. remote viewing rabbit hole. He was big. on it. I thought it was 100% horse [ __ ].

about 10 years ago. >> What about this the submarine? >> time Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, the. submarine's big. The one that they found. the Soviet submarine that they were. building. Yeah. They knew the exact. location. Not just that, remote viewers. found a downed aircraft that was in. Siberia. They located it within a 3-mile. radius. They found it. They knew where. it was. The United States went in and. got it before the Soviet Union could. Using remote viewers again? >> Yeah, using remote viewers. Like they've. got actionable information from remote. viewers. Allegedly.

>> Allegedly. Allegedly. To me. it feels like we could it's just to. scare the Soviets. Like oh, we got we. got people with superpowers. We know. where the submarine is. >> Or they're doing it, too. Or they're. doing it, too. >> Or is is this something that people. realize that there is a developing. aspect of human consciousness or an. aspect of human consciousness that used. to exist that we forgot that we don't. know how to do anymore. One of those. things. Yeah. That's an interesting concept, yeah. It is because the remote viewer.

thing they spent a [ __ ] load of money on. that and they they kept that program. going on for a long, long time. And you. know, I don't know what they discovered. or what they didn't. You know, it's. unless you're in the room with the. people that have the top, top, top. secret information, who knows? That. whole Cold War time is also just wild. I. think it was. I see why we would have faked a lot of. stuff. Sure. >> On both sides. Oh, for sure. >> bluff a bluff game of we can do this, we. have this. Yep. Yep. Andy just started.

believing in the. in us getting to the moon. Well, once we. went to yeah, once we went to NASA in. Texas. But also that documentary the. other footage that came out. I don't. really know. I can see why we would fake. it. I mean, it's Soviets. Yeah, I can. see why they would fake. >> That's the US government. We'd fake a. lot of fake anything. For So go ahead, I'm sorry. Go no, go ahead. I was saying. for a while though they before that. documentary came out the the story well. we lost the footage. We lost all of it. And it's like did they just wait for. technology to progress to be able to.

make a convincing documentary? Well, they definitely lost the footage. They lost all the original copies of the. film. So all the original film was gone. What you're seeing is just copies of. copies. Uh they also lost the telemetry data, which is a real problem. That's the what. the hard data, the binary data that. shows the distance in the craft and how. far it was. It just seems fake. It seems fake when. you watch it. That's what's weird to me. It seems totally hokey. It looks fake as.

[ __ ] And then the weird one for me is. the Apollo 11 post-flight press. conference. Those guys look like a. hostage video. It doesn't look real at. all. And then there's Neil Armstrong who. gave that very bizarre cryptic speech at. the 25th anniversary of the Apollo moon. landing. There's a lot of weirdness to them. And. the fact that we haven't been back. The. it's there's not a a single thing that's. not cheaper, easier, and faster to. reproduce from 1969 Yeah. in 2025 except. the moon landing. Yeah. It's just weird.

like if it if it is true I've seen a. video of like something that was. supposedly live streamed on on the news. back then. And it was just this guy who was. obviously hanging from a cable and he. had this pathetic looking earth under. him. You know, and it's not at all what. actual space looks like now. But this. was like on the news apparently. Well, that's probably not real. That's. probably an artist rendition or a. recreation. But. how about the phone call? Nixon is calling the guys from the hey. fellows, I hear you're on the moon.

Yes, sir, we're on the moon. I can't. even get [ __ ] cell phone service in. my bathroom. Is that else is. what's their explanation for how. >> Retroreflectors. How those reflectors. got up there? Well, first of all, the. Russians put. reflectors as well. So you can you can. definitely remotely place reflectors. Um the other problem is the moon itself. reflects. So there's there's a lot of weird. arguments about that. I could see how you could say oh, there's reflectors and that would. indicate that people were there, but. Show us the flag. Do we not have a Can.

we point Can we point James Webb over. there and No, no, no, no, no. That's. that's deep space. It's a different. thing. You'd have to get a different. kind of technology just just to zoom in. on the moon and they would go why would. we do that? Why would we spend billions. and billions of dollars to prove. something that. rational people think definitely. happened. It's a lot of people that. would have to hold a secret, too. Not. really. >> think so? >> No, cuz it's compartmentalized. It's. compartmentalized. The only people that. would really need to know are the people. who made the footage, the people that. were involved in the filming, and the.

actual astronauts themselves. Everybody. else, you're getting fed data, okay? >> think they would believe that it's. happening. >> Yeah, not only that, when the first time. when Apollo 11 happened, they weren't. allowed to get a direct feed from the. net from NASA. So what they did was they. used a projection screen and then all. the news cameras pointed their cameras. at the projection screen. That's why it. looks like [ __ ] Like the first the. Apollo 11 video looks so bad. But it seems like that was on purpose. Like they made it look like [ __ ] on.

purpose. Interesting. And if you wanted. to gain techno technological and. you know, ethical and moral superiority over the. evil communists, you could see why you. would make some sort of a. rationalization why you should fake that. we have the ability to go to the moon. Cuz the ability to go to the moon is not. just scientific, it's military. >> Yeah. It's a military might. Like we. have the best rockets, we have the best. this, we have the best We got the best. We went to the moon. We definitely did.

it. So it just makes sense that they would. fake it. >> And the the the blow of Sputnik flying. over the United States and everybody. could see it. It's like Yeah. They can. make put this right above your country. >> a flex. I'm just saying if they if they. were giving people LSD in brothels, I. could see them faking the moon landing. 100%. Most of history. >> of United States history is full of. [ __ ] At least some aspect of it. Look. what got us into the Vietnam War. Gulf. of Tonkin never happened. Full of [ __ ]. False flag event. They.

all throughout history all throughout. the United States history in the 1960s. during the same time where they were. supposedly going to the moon. They lied. constantly at every [ __ ] turn. At. every turn. And who's to say they're not. still doing that to this day? >> it was easier to lie back then. >> They are. They 100% are. Yeah. Yeah. Look, I know people in government that. will tell you. They'll like put your. phone down. Let's go for a walk. And. they'll tell you. And you're like what? Yeah, that would be that won't that. Do. those conversations are strange. One of. my favorite thing is the pizza ordering. at the Pentagon. Oh, yeah. When [ __ ].

starts to go down the the spike in pizza. ordering cuz people are working late. >> Yeah. Very weird. >> And it just spiked. I saw I think a. couple weeks ago cuz I brought it up. I. was like I got a notification like pizza. spike. I know. People thought they think. we're going to war. This has been it's. it was at a like a time it was at a high. that was like the Panama stuff, Vietnam. high. Isn't that funny? It's pizza. deliveries is what freaks everybody out. They're working late. They're working. late. They're ordering pizza. >> they just called all all the generals.

together. You seen that? Yeah, Hex said. they did. But supposedly what they're. doing is giving they want get all the. generals together and give them some. sort of a a moral and ethical mandate. >> Yeah. Like preparedness. This is what we. want the military to be. >> No more beards and stuff. >> [ __ ] politics and no more no more. identity politics and [ __ ] We the. most important thing is be ready. Yeah. Be ready. Have the best, most capable. military that's humanly possible given.

the resources that we have today. This. is what our this is what our goal is. This is what our job is. And they needed. to call everybody together to do that? >> Well, you saw what the [ __ ] was going on. over the last four years. You got guys. in dresses talking about how it's really. important to have inclusiveness. It's. the most important thing about the. military is inclusivity. Like we had. crazy people that were in charge of very. important positions. Yeah. Including. that guy that was stealing women's. clothes. Yeah. That guy was in charge of. like [ __ ] nuclear waste. He's running. around stealing people's underwear.

The panty raid. With lipstick and a bald. head. Just not just stealing, but he. stole this one lady who was like a. famous designer. It was a one-off dress. and then he wore That's how he got. busted. He wore it to some event and the. lady was like hey [ __ ] that's. mine. Like someone stole that [ __ ] from the. airport. And that's how he got busted. >> South Park episode. That is a South Park. episode. Is it? Is it a South Park. episode? No, we live in a South Park. episode. Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do. It's.

getting wild, man. >> Yeah. It is wild, but it's like it's. always been wild. And this is one of the. good things about Trump being elected. and Trump in office is that it kind of. threw a monkey wrench cuz they didn't. want him to be the president. It threw a. monkey wrench into all these things that. they were doing. You get to see. a lot of these people scramble and you. get to see like. oh, this is this is there's so much like. all the DOD stuff where they did. uncovered all these NGOs. That was crazy. Yeah. There's an NGO for.

I think it's every 600 people in India. Yeah. You know crazy that is? There's a. non there's a non-government. organization for every I think it's like. five or 600 people in India. There's. like millions of them. It doesn't make. any sense. It's crazy. It's like what. are you doing? What are you doing? You. [ __ ] Elon explained it to me, too. He. said what you would do is you would make. this nonprofit and you would call this. not you'd put a bunch of money into it. So you like you put like $10 million.

relatively small to to them. $10 million. this thing and call it like um. agency for peace, center for peace, whatever it is. And then that becomes a. non-government organization. And then. you get politicians to dump tons of. money into this NGO, and then through. this NGO you profit. It's like a shell. company. Yeah. And there's a ton of. those. And there's so many of them they. couldn't even keep track of them. And. the more they dug into it, the more they. start calling Elon a Nazi, and it just. got wild.

>> Well, they don't like when the elites. don't like when the curtain's pulled. back. >> Well, that was the curtain being pulled. back. That was the curtain being pulled. back in a way that most people were not. aware. And when I brought Mike Benz in, and Mike Benz laid it all out, and he. was explaining that what the what USAID. was for was the things that were too. dirty for the CIA to get involved in. So, a lot of it was like regime change. operations. Yeah. He was like outlining. all these different regime change. operations that were all being paid for, and then your tax dollars being dumped. into these NGOs, and then people are. pulling money out of it. And like.

billions of dollars. It's the world's. piggy bank. Why did why did why did. every why did they stop digging? Or are they still digging? Like those. cuz I know Elon's not in the White House. anymore, but. >> It's supposed to be a temporary thing, right? It just but it just seems like it. all just stopped. Well, you don't hear. about it anymore, that's true. But I. think it was real problematic. I mean, they did shut down USAID. Yeah. And um. they they turned Elon into a [ __ ]. Nazi. I mean, how many [ __ ] Teslas. got keyed and tires got slashed, and his. business was really troubled by it. And.

so, he's like, "I'm done. I'm I'm. stepping away. You guys you didn't. follow my instructions, you didn't. follow my recommendations, so what can I. do? You're ruining my life. So, I'm just. going to back out of this.". >> Go back to building rockets. So, he's. just going back to building rockets. And. the thing is like they didn't even care. that he rescued those people from the. [ __ ] space station, which was wild. Like no one wanted to give him credit, no one wanted to say thank you. No. They're like, "No, he's a Nazi." People. I know were calling him a Nazi cuz he. spazzed out and went, "My heart goes out. to you.".

>> Oh yeah, we we make fun of that all the. time. Crazy. >> Yeah. Someone just took a still image, you know? The guy literally has a chain. around his neck that was given to him by. one of the mothers of one of the. hostages in Israel that says, "Bring. them all home." Yeah. He has it out He wears it around his. neck. That's what a Nazi does? Like are. you [ __ ] kidding me? You think he's a. Nazi? There's no evidence that he's a. Nazi other than one hand movement. That's it. Well, it's like the whole. right's being called Nazis. Like it's. why are we throwing that word around? >> word doesn't mean anything when. everybody's a Nazi. It's like it's so.

stupid. It's just like overplayed that. hand. >> It started off. being pretty strong and having a lot of. weight, but now you know, it's just like. you got they use it all the time, and. it's Yeah. Everybody's a Nazi, and then. the if you're not, you're communist. I mean, it's just. and with everything so extreme right. now. Nazis are real, too. That's the. part of the problem. When you call. everybody a Nazi, well, the problem is. that word gets overused, and now. legitimate Nazis can just operate with. impunity. Like they're real. There's. There's legit Nazis out there. Yeah.

Yeah, and then they wouldn't even really. know what a Nazi is at that point. It's. squirrely. It's squirrely as [ __ ] And. the government just is too big. It's too. big. There's too much going on, and you. can only do so much to make it. effective. And so, this administration has 4 years, and who knows what they're going to be. able to get done or not get done. And. there's a lot of things they're doing. that make people very upset. Like the. all the ICE stuff and the raids and You. see Ice Cube's Yeah. bus tour bus? Have. you seen that? No. I. They burnt his bus down. Portland, the.

Antifa people burnt Ice's Ice Cube's. >> Ice Cube's cuz they thought it was the. Ice. bus. I thought it was the Ice bus? Yeah. You haven't seen this? No. Oh yeah. I. just watched I didn't mean to interrupt. you on it, but it just hit me. I saw. that this a couple days ago. It's so stupid. It's so stupid. >> Yeah, burnt it to the ground. It's a. show. >> video? I would love to see Ice Cube's reaction. Bro, Portland is wild. Oh yeah. You guys. touring Portland at all? Yeah, we've. done it. We actually had a good show. there, but when you walk around. it is zombie apocalypse. And we were.

just another one in San Francisco. We've. never First time up for us going to San. Francisco was about a month ago. And it. was we were in the whatever they call. the Tenderloin, and it is. a madhouse. There's people blowing up. fireworks, some homeless people blowing. up these fireworks in the middle of the. night on the street. Me and Drew are. just watching them out the window. We're. watching crime happen. Yeah, San. Francisco is pretty buck wild. And then. the mayor came out and said, "We're. making a declaration. No one can sleep. on the street. You can no longer loiter.

You can only do it and then go look at. San Francisco right now. It's exactly. the same. It's just talk. Is San. Francisco where they cleaned up the. Chinese president? Chinese president. >> Cuz Xi Jinping was in town. And then. Gavin Newsom said, "Well, when you have. visitors over, you clean up your house.". Like, "Yeah, [ __ ] why don't you just keep your. [ __ ] house clean? Why you got [ __ ] on. your floor?". 100%. Human [ __ ] all over your streets. Yeah, man. That's the questions that. everybody needs to be asking. But this. is the question. what if I wanted to ruin society and get.

it to a point where everybody. you needed to control things cuz it got. so chaotic that you can institute some. sort of a digital ID and institute. social credit score. That's how you. would do it. You would you would I mean, I'm not saying that that's what they're. doing, but that's how I would do it. What I would do is I would just let. people out of jail the moment they do. anything, let them camp on the streets, give them money for drugs, just let them. just let it go crazy, and then have. everybody like scrambling, "Please take. away our freedom to give us safety.". Yeah. And then boom. Well, you can't.

blame people for asking these kinds of. questions. When you go to other. countries and it's safe to walk around. at night, and it's pretty clean city, it's like, "What why don't why don't we. have this?" You know, you can't blame a. society for asking those kinds of. questions from their leaders. Why are. you Why did you just clean up. for a foreign government to come visit? What's it's cool or whatever, but you. proved that you could. Yeah. And then. like why why don't we just have that all. the time? Yeah. I think there needs to. be more. stuff directed towards mental health. A.

lot of those homeless people. people on drugs is they're. Some of them are like mentally ill and. 100%. >> can't But we don't have any we don't. have any treatment for people like that. hardly. Well, it all skyrocketed during. the Reagan administration cuz they. changed the like the laws in terms of. like where what what you're supposed to. do when someone's mentally ill. And they. just like let them loose. Let's stop. paying for it. Yeah. We don't have any. insane asylums anymore or anything. But. then then again, you know, you hear. stories about these insane asylums. Like. that's not good either. We would hope.

we'd have some good ones. But it's just. like some people are out there with no. family. Right. There's like, you know, kids their family died when they were. 18, and they're they're not mentally. able to function in society. They've. been homeless for 20 years. We're we. need a place for people like that. Yes. 100%. I have a very very close family. member right now that's homeless and. mentally ill. And is. That's all I want, man, is for people to. like. we need I don't know what needs to. happen, but.

we need to get these people help. 100%. Yeah, 100%. And that should be something. that we do spend money on. I'd want my. tax dollars to go to something like. that. Yeah, 100%. Everybody, right or. left, everybody would. You want people. to get a chance. I mean, the best. stories ever are people that had their. they were in the gutter, like living on. the streets, and now all of a sudden. they're helping people. They run some. sort of a a non-profit food kitchen, and. they're helping people get clean, and. they found life's purpose, and you know, running, you know, whether it is some. sort of a religious class or something.

that gives people hope and gives people. something that you know, then they can. tell you like, "Hey, I used to be where. you are, and now I'm not, and now I'm. helping people." Yeah. Like right or. left, like this divide that we have in. this country, most of it's [ __ ] And. most of it is like it's engineered. >> Mhm. Yeah. It's engineered to keep us at. each other's throats so they can keep. getting away with all this nonsense. Yeah. And we keep eating it up. Mhm. Oh. yeah. And doubling down. It could be. like. if the president said, "Don't go buy" or.

something about bananas. Yeah. >> You go everybody should have a banana. today. The left would never eat another. banana in their life. Look at this. Tylenol thing. >> Look at this Ty Tylenol said in 2017, "We actually don't recommend you take. our product." Right now. >> see people Yeah, 2017 they said that. Well, not only that, 2 years ago Johnson. & Johnson separated from Tylenol. Tylenol became its own country company. Oh. Which is probably like they saw it. coming down the pipe. And they're like, We're jumping. Yeah. Well, here's what's really crazy. A lot of [ __ ] crazy leftist women.

started taking Tylenol to own JFK or RFK. Jr. and and Trump. And a bunch of them. died of liver toxicity. Yeah. Have you ta I knew it was going to. happen. There was a whole TikTok. pregnant women just taking Tylenol just. out of spite. It's crazy. It's crazy. >> Why let why let something dictate your. life that much, you know? Cuz a lot of. people are nuts, man. A lot of people. just that don't have any critical. thinking skills, and they're in a cult. They need to find a hobby. They're in a.

cult. Whether they're in a MAGA cult or. they're in a leftist cult, they're in a. [ __ ] cult. I agree. And they're all. in on one side or the other side, and I. think humanity exists in the middle. And. humanity exists in the middle where. you're supposed to be able to talk about. ideas. And you're supposed to say, "Well, what's what's it good for just. overall society?". Like mental health institutions. Like. giving people some sort of a chance to. become a productive member of society. Like all that There's a lot of things. that we all agree on.

Yeah. And we need to find common ground. and instead of like fighting and instead. of polarizing people. And this is one of. the problems that I have with this. administration is that they're really. good at like pointing fingers at the. other side and polarizing, and really. bad at uniting us all. Mhm. And not. attacking the other side, and just. uniting us, and bringing us together. What was the last administration that. was good at uniting. in your opinion? Ooh. Or is it it's always been a divide? >> It's kind of always been like that, but.

maybe the Clinton administration, maybe. the first one. Yeah. Maybe Clinton. >> Yeah, Bush and 9/11, but boy. >> same team for at least a year. He was. pretty divisive. Like. >> Oh, he was super divisive before that. That's for damn sure. People hated that. >> But, it's also it's like what did they. do with that that unitedness? They. forced us into a war over a [ __ ]. premise. I mean, that just shows you. what they're really willing to do if. they have everybody's will. Yep. If they. have everybody on their side, like okay,

great. Let's invade Iraq. Let's lie. about weapons of mass. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, exactly. They got to go anywhere. with that. Nuclear weapons. That's what. I have to do. So, it's they we have to. they hate us for our freedom. Oh, no. Go [ __ ] them up. And take their oil. Yeah, exactly. It's. it's kind of crazy, but we always fall. for it. And hopefully we fall for it. less and less every year, but it not it. doesn't seem like it when you see. pregnant ladies chewing Tylenol. Yeah. We're in a crazy time. Again, that's. what the song touches on. We're actually. going to put it out October 3rd because.

of it. I listened to it in the gym. today. To pe- people hate it? Yeah. You. like it? I love it. I love it. I love. the whole album. It's really great. >> Just jaded on it, man. Just people. hating each other. Oh, it's sick. It's. sick and it's unnecessary. And you don't. get much time, folks. You don't get much. time in this life. You get 100 years if. you're lucky. And you're going to waste it fighting. ideological battles on Twitter and. Facebook? Like, what are you doing? Yeah. You know? And you're trapped. you're trapped on your phone. You're. trapped like checking to see how people. are engaging with your latest.

outrage tweet. Yeah, I I can't I cannot, dude. I cannot I cannot look at the. comments. And I think I learned that. from you, but. >> Yeah. Go post and ghost. Post and ghost, baby. I just like I've seen some of. these things and I know it's all. [ __ ] Like, somebody's just coming. on here to rile me up, but like David. 36907. >> Yeah. Yeah, it's like there's so many of them. On the inside. it kind of gets to you a little bit. And. I just don't Not me, sir. Rather than. that I don't read the comments. Yeah. He.

loves it. I eat it up, son. Keep doing. it. Yeah, I don't care. Really? Yeah, he's not I wouldn't be doing this if I. cared about people's opinion. You know what I mean? It's But, you do. keep a care about good people's opinion. Yeah. You just don't care about the. negative opinions? I don't care about. the negative opinions cuz I'm not. doing it for God, pretty much. Mhm. But, I mean I anytime I post a cover song, sorry, not Waylon. Sorry, nobody will. ever be George Jones. Wasn't trying to be. Just singing a. song. It's not that deep. Johnny Cash. will never be Nine Inch Nails. You know, it may hurt. It's just a different.

thing, man. You can enjoy it without. saying that. But, there's a lot of people that are. just negative. And it's why? It's cuz. their life sucks. Do you think Michael. Jordan leaves YouTube comments? No. Cuz. he's a [ __ ] winner. You know what I. mean? That's really what it is. It's. like our a lot of our society, their. main contribution is bitching. Yep. You. know, that's what they spend most of. their energy on. We want to keep it. about music, man. Good for you, man. There's a lot of drama in the world and. we somebody tried. tried to start drama with us, I don't.

even know if we would even reply. We. don't. It's a fake place. You think I'm going. to waste my time arguing with you on. social media? You know? I'm not cool. That's what you. think. All right. >> of the few things that we have that. really unites us. You know, really does. Like you can get. people of all persuasions, all different. kinds of backgrounds just love a good. song. You know, that's universal. Yeah. It's It's weird about social media, too, is the algorithm like like someone. left-leaning will have a completely. different comment section than someone.

right-leaning. >> Living in an echo chamber. Oh, yeah. And. that's really bad because then you. think, look, and then when the election happens, you're like, what? What what what is. going on? How do you not think the way I. think? Yeah. We're all people, man. Yeah, I just wish someone would come. along that was a great uniter. And. hopefully they won't get shot. Yeah. Jeez. Jesus. Well, maybe it would. Maybe that's it. >> him first, though. Yeah, they they they. did it back then, too.

Yeah. If Jesus did come back today, boy, would that be fascinating. Like see just. to see how people. >> Oh God. Actually, I believe I'm sorry. It'd be relieving, honestly. I mean, could you imagine though like. I don't know. I don't want to throw. shade on anybody, but like just dying. and say, "Oh god damn it. They were. right." Like, "I know. I know. I'll see. myself out on the Just go ahead and walk. walk the other way. Right. You get to. the pearly gates and you're like, "No. shit.". Really? And then St. Peter's like, "Come. here.".

Talk to you about some things. Oh, dude, I didn't know. If I knew, I. would have never done all those things. I would have never lied about my taxes. I would have never. I would have never done any of those. things. A little late then. I'd have to. make a make a stop at purgatory on the. way. That's where I'll be. You're going to get purged there. Yeah, it's I'll be there eventually. But, music is the great uniter. I'm the. only Catholic in the band. Oh, okay. You you believe in purgatory? Yeah. But, we coexist. We have yeah, we I mean, we talk about. we have like a little random Bible study.

that pop up. We just talk about the. Bible. I pull out my catechism. You know? It's fun. I'm just going to be laughing at you cuz. God probably will send you to a. purgatory cuz you believed in it. >> Hey, he might be sending you. We don't. know. We'll know when we get there. I. I'm going to see y'all in that in that. >> Well, when was Catholicism established? When. with Jesus Christ, when he was. crucified. That's when it was started? >> Yeah, he told St. Peter, "I'll build on. on top of you you are the rock I will.

build my church on." You know where his. bones are? In the Vatican. Underneath St. Peter's Basilica. Interesting. Vatican's got a lot of stuff. St. Peter's Basilica is wild. Just went for. my honeymoon. Insane. It was Even if. you're not Catholic, just going there. they have a whole museum. It's insane. >> in Europe? No, yeah, that's down in. Rome. We won't make it that far, but. Well, either way, Rome is pretty bizarre. looking, too. But, there's there is. nothing there's nothing like St. Peter's. Basilica.

>> It's like. >> Also, by the way, how crazy is it that. Rome is its own country? How crazy is that? Yeah. They have their. own It's a country. It's like 50 acres. or some [ __ ] The Vatican. Yeah, the. Vatican. The Vatican, rather. Excuse me, not Rome. And you have to wait in line. Yeah, you have to wait in line to enter. in the morning when we went. But, the. Vatican being its own country is so. strange. And then you get in and you're. like, this might be the richest country. ever. Like, look at all the art. They. have so much art. They have so much art. It's just St. Peter's Basilica, whatever.

whatever you believe, if you go to that, you'll be awestruck. It's It's literally. like you walk in and you get you're just. covered. You're blown away. You're blown away. And it didn't it take like four or 500. years to make? I'm sure. Oh, yeah. I think it's. to I mean, this was all people with no. computers and no power drills. Yeah, man. No no power saws. Like, how? How dedicated were you mother [ __ ] I.

will say that's one of my favorite. memories of Europe last year was seeing. cathedrals, how beautiful they are. It's kind of screwed up they were like. charging people at the door. No, that. was No, that's that's yeah, Anglican. Catholics look at that. >> You can enter. Anglicans will charge. you. And when you see it, you the photos. are beautiful, but being there in. person, you realize the scale of it all. And it's it's almost impossible. It's. impossible to imagine. the dedication and the craftsmanship.

that was involved in making something so. incredible. >> a whole crypt underneath with all the. It's like we moved backwards. How did. stuff stop stop being beautiful? It's so plain. The. construction methods got much more. convenient. >> You see a like a picture of a train from. back in the day, how like this beautiful. a public train used to be? Oh, yeah. Old. cars are just. >> you ever see economy seating from like. the 1960s? It's like it looked amazing. They were smoking cigarettes on them. airplanes. Turning up back then on. flights, dude. There is smoking.

cigarettes and couches. They had these. big-ass seats. Everybody looked relaxed. >> Rappers don't even do that now. I mean, they they were like living it up back. then. Yeah, they were living it up. I I. really couldn't imagine sitting on an. airplane next to somebody smoking a a. cigarette. >> Oh, I when I was a kid, they smoked on. planes. It has to be suffocating, right? >> horrible. And if you got a ticket like. late, you had to sit in the smoking. section. So, you're in the back of the. bus or the back of the plane. But, and it when and if you had to go to. the toilet, you had to go past all the. people smoking. >> Wow. That's economy seating. That looks nice.

Turbulence? No wonder people are so depressed. nowadays. Well, they did have seat. belts, didn't they? I don't know. >> doesn't look like they do. No, don't let. it look like they have. You might die. Well, the luggage is in. the overhead compartments. They still. have overhead compartments. Those look. pretty shallow. >> are overhead compartments. People. probably traveled lighter. Do you think. that's fake? It might be AI-generated. They might be bullshitting us. But, there are definitely real photos. I think it's legit. Yeah.

That what I seen one picture. >> 747 from the 1960s. Is there like a. stand-up bar? Didn't they have like a. stand-up bar section where you walk. around and go get a drink? So, that's a different size plane, though. But, it depends on like where you're. going and how far you're flying. There's. no overhead storage, it looks like. Those people look like they're having a. good old time, though, on those planes. They were actually talking to each. other. Look at the colors of the seats. And by the way, the stewardesses were. hot. They had hot stewardesses. They had a.

You had to be hot to be a stewardess. back then. Yeah, weird. Also, what happened to. fashion? These people are dressed up. very nice on an airplane. And now we're. you know, people are showing up in yoga. pants. People used to dress up in yoga pants. Don't be hating on yoga pants, bro. I. should have worn mine, dang it. But, it went well with your chain. And the mustache. Nothing but like. shirtless, chain, mustache, >> why people were calling me a lesbian.

People were like, "Oh, he looks like. Matthew McConaughey." I was like, "Damn, what are they talking about me?" And. they're like, and it was Brandon, and. they're like, "Who's this this mustache. lesbian that keeps talking?". What did I do? >> Yeah, what did I do? >> Oh, people will find a way to get you. Yeah, I don't read those. I just have. Brandon send me screenshots. Cuz you get in there, right? >> Yeah, my feelings are getting hurt. Man. I I get a lot of Elvis like, "Oh, he. just looks like Elvis and it's like. Elvis." That's why I won't do karate,

cuz that's just the next thing they'll. just tack on, "Oh, he's doing karate. like Elvis.". I'm just like, yeah. It's a good thing. to get out your aggression though. It's. a good thing to calm yourself. I want to. do something, man. I I want to do boxing. or something. >> some Muay Thai. Have some guy hold pads. for you. If you started out with. Shotokan, you know? Yeah. Get some guy. to hold pads for you when you're on the. road. >> Drew Drew's tiered down 40-plus pounds. in the last how long? Uh, it's. I'd say about 10 months. Really? That's. great. What did you do? I fasted. I so I.

did like 16-hour fasts pretty much every. day. Okay, intermittent fasting. Nice. And uh Just that alone, isn't it. amazing? >> Dude, 30 lb by itself. >> Yeah. And then I started working out a. few weeks ago and I've just been doing. it like every single day. Don't you feel. a million times better? 1,000%. Isn't. that crazy? Like you want to tell. people, I know it sucks to start. Yeah. Starting something is hard to do. Changing the habits of your life are. very hard to do, but if you could do it, God, you'll feel so much better. Yeah, I. mean like I can't even go a day without.

running because. >> Really? it feels like I I will feel bad. Isn't that incredible? Yeah, dude. I. love it so much. And you think about the. time where you felt bad all the time and. that was your base state. Yeah. That's a. lot of people that are complaining. online, too. Mhm. There's a lot of. people that just they're uncomfortable. just walking around in life. >> Yeah, they're filled with anxiety and. angst and uh Need to get outside and. exercise. >> Yeah, just [ __ ] do something. Do something. I mean it will cure a lot.

of things just exercise alone. I mean. What's 1.25 times better than. antidepressants? >> Mhm. Just that alone, 1.25 times better than SSRIs. Everybody's always This is so blows my. mind even growing up as a kid, all these. fat-burning pills and all these. shortcuts to lose weight and the Ozempic. thing. It's like not you won't There's. no shortcut. It is diet and exercise. >> Yeah. Lean mean, baby. I think for. people that are like morbidly obese,

like something like Ozempic is It's It's. going to be the It'll help you. Yeah, it's the catalyst of It'll get you. started. >> Sometimes it's just getting started. It's just like getting momentum going. where you're doing something positive. every day and then, you know, next thing. you know, it's 5 days in a row, next. thing you know, it's a month in a row, you're like, "I'm feeling [ __ ] good. I got I really have a good program going. on now. I'm feeling better, everything's. healthy." And that's a lot of life is. just having positive momentum in the. right direction. >> creatures of habit. We learn to walk by.

forming a habit and you can form good. habits. Yeah. You get to a point where. like you said, I man, I didn't get my. running today, I feel weird and it's. like, oh, I need to go to the gym. I. need to feel a pump or something. You. get the habit going, man. And for some. people it's meditation, for some people. it's yoga. But just do something. Do something. Do. something positive, you know? Don't just. exist. I hope that for America we'll get. fit again. Well, that would be nice. We need that. >> like that's a. I feel like it's. shifting.

I feel like it. >> Yeah, there's a lot of people There's a. lot of people that are shifting. >> Yeah. Well, I think like with our. grandparents, they didn't the importance. wasn't known yet of how important moving. like if you don't use your joints, you're going to lose them when you're. old and that's why we have, you know, old people are all slumped over and old. I hope when our generation gets there, we know how important exercise is and. when we're 80 years old, we can still. run a mile, you know? Or you just go to the doctor and they. give you a new body. Or that, too. That's probably going to happen. Just my. legs out. Yeah.

Get some new knees. Yeah. Just take your. brain, download it into a new body. I. like that. >> Have they tried the head transplant yet? Uh, they have done a head transplant. Did it work? >> Yeah, no. The person died, but they kept. them alive for a short period of time. They did it to a dog, right? And then. they I think they did do it to a person. That Nazi video of the dog head is. weird. Yeah, it made me feel weird. Well, the. Nazis tried a lot of [ __ ] They. experimented with a lot of [ __ ] That's. what's really dark is like a lot of like.

medical experiments we found out through. the Nazis. >> Like spreading intestines across the. wall to see how GI tracts work and. yeah. Like they were poking on people's brain. while they're still active. It's going. to be a smelly room, dude. Oh, yeah, I. would I would imagine. Well, with genetic engineering, hopefully they. don't have to do any of that, but it's. it is going to be weird if you could. just choose your body. Yeah. You know, like everyone's going to look. beautiful. Everyone's going to be. looking like Thor. Mhm. You know?

It's like a Chris Hemsworth's walking. around the world. It's going to be very. strange. >> At that point, God's just going All. right, that's it. Pulling the plug, let's go. Too far. Maybe. Me and my wife. are looking into IVF right now and they. were. They're like, do you want to pick a. ginger? You can do that? Yeah. I mean, if you had your choice, would. you want to pick? And I was like. Mhm. That's something you got to think. about. I'm going to need a week to think. about And why why are you looking into. IVF? Why are you doing that? Um, so my.

wife has. scar tissue and so she had to she had a. mass on her. one of her fallopian tubes. >> Oh, so they have to do it this way. >> Mhm, yeah. So. Well, seen that way, medical science is. brilliant, right? >> Yep. Yeah, and it would be cool if that. was covered by insurance. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it would be. There's. a program called Carrot now that runs. through our. um. through our insurance that you can do it. on. Oh, what? >> So it's it'll Cool. That's quite.

expensive though, right? Isn't it like. $30,000 a shot? Uh, it's something like. that, yeah. >> doesn't always work the first time, you. have to try it again. Mhm, yeah. But. my wife puts it as. uh. you know, your baby's just taking the. scenic route. Cuz a lot of people feel. funny about they feel funny about. getting IVF, but it's like there's. nothing wrong with IVF. Not at all. Listen, if it allows you to become a. parent and it's the most rewarding thing. in life to become a parent. To me, at least. It changes everything. Changes your whole life, changes your. perspective on things.

Dave Chappelle said it best to me, said, "It didn't just change the amount of. love I had, it changed my capacity for. love.". Yeah. Yeah. And if you can give that to people, that's beautiful. Yeah. Especially like there's a real. population collapse problem. Yeah, I was. going to say that. >> Yeah, and a lot of countries it's real. serious. >> But there's some countries where it's. not. There's some countries where they're. overproducing and it's like. what is it England like below the rate. they need to be?

Japan is real bad. Isn't China's upside. down? Too many old people. I don't know. what Japan or China is, but I know Japan. has a real issue. South Korea has a huge. issue. It's funny. I wonder why it's the Asian. countries. Is it. >> hard. They're busting their ass all the. time. They don't have time to make kids. I mean, if you're like super dedicated. to it to work and super disciplined and. Korea South Korea in particular is very. disciplined culture. Very hard-working. culture. So if they're career-oriented and. disciplined, those are the type of. people that have less kids.

>> I'd like to see where they're the. highest and where they're the lowest and. see. you know, is it like Europe? Is it. northern Europe producing more children? I've seen a map of it. I can't remember. what's what, but Is it poor countries? >> kind of scary. It's a lot of poor. countries. Cuz that's how a that's how a a culture. disappears over time is low birth rates. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, so do your part. Get that IVF, son. That baby's. That baby's. Um Any more we should cover? We good? I. mean, I think.

I think that the single coming out. October 3rd is. what's what's all I wanted to. make sure I talked about, but I mean. we've talked about a lot. You guys are. [ __ ] great. I enjoy you very much. I. listen to you guys all the time in the. green room. You're in the green room. playlist at the mothership. Heck yeah. So we we love you guys. >> to come catch a show sometime. >> love to. I'll tell you the story of the. Kill Tony story. No. So our first time. 2024 was a wild year for us. Like we got.

into Kill Tony and we we were loving it. and watching it and then a couple months. later it's like, you guys want to go see. Shane Gillis? And we were like, yeah. They got us like they pulled us up. backstage and as soon as we get out of. the van, Tony's in there smoking a. cigarette. He's like, "Hey, what's up, guys?" You know? Hey, guys. And so we were starstruck immediately. And then met Shane and we kind of felt. like Shane didn't know who we were, so. we think he slipped off to the green. room to look us up and come back. >> 100%. He's like, "You guys just had a. number one hit. Congratulations.". >> Yeah. So he come back with the Google.

quote. 100%. Yeah, man. Well, that was that was just. incredible and then like a few months. later we actually get to go to Kill Tony. and that was just another mind-blowing. incredible oh my god, what is happening. and they were like, hey. somebody was like, "Uh, Rogan wasn't. going to come out tonight, but he wants. to meet you guys, so you know, he's. going to come out and meet you guys and. talk to you guys." Cool, man. We were. getting a little little nervous, a. little freaked out. And um we were at. Mitzi's hanging out with Hans Kim and. Cam and all those guys and then turn. around and there you are sitting there.

I was like, oh my god, there he is. And you were sitting there talking to. people there. >> Yeah, you got. swallowed up immediately as you walked. in the door. And uh. me and Andrew were sitting at the bar. and there's like, all right, I'm going. in. I was like, no, man, just wait. I. was like, you want to talk to him? I'm. just going to send it, buddy. I'll leave. this for you. Yeah, let's let's. >> Joe. This is my friend Brandon. Yeah, let it happen naturally. Let it happen. naturally. And so we were I was sitting. there waiting on my time to strike and. I'd turn around and talk to somebody and. I'd turn back around where you were and. you were gone. So I was like I felt like.

just the the biggest. hammer drop of all time. I was like, "Dang, man." I felt extra bad cuz I was. told that you wouldn't want to come out. but you were coming out to meet us and I. felt like we just sat there and ignored. you. No. So No, I didn't know you guys. were there. Okay. It was It was loud. Yeah. I did come out I did come out to. meet you guys, but I got swarmed. Mhm. And it was just like I get weird. sometimes. I'm like, "Gotta go. See. you." It was just get out of there. Have. you ever had like six people you were. carrying a conversation with at one. time? Yeah. We weren't about to be on top of. that. Well, we know we we will cross.

paths one times and needed. We did it. I. saw you also and I missed my chance. again at UFC in December. Which one? In. Vegas. Oh, okay. Yeah, you were uh. you were commentating and we were uh. across from you on the other side of the. arena. Theo was sitting behind you, I. think, and we were on the direct other. side. Incredible experience. Oh my god. This is the first time you guys have. ever been? Yeah, and uh Theo actually he. got an extra ticket to Super Slap and he. invited me out of that Fontainebleau. What is power slap? What is that sport? Yeah, that won't be that won't be around.

for a long time. >> a CTE Yeah. brain damage. Yeah, a. factory. Brain damage is coming. It's a. CTE farm. I don't get it. It's not my. thing. >> It is seems so bad for you to just I. mean, it is. >> 100%. >> obviously. 100% terrible for you. >> Yeah. Yeah, it's I don't know about. that. >> they are I mean. they're concussed. 100%. >> right back up there to get hit again. Yeah, not good. >> has there been a second impact syndrome. case yet in. power slap? Power slap's only been. around for a couple years. >> Oh, [ __ ] Dana's going to be paying.

money to like keep the studies away. No, we got to keep this going. I just don't. like it. I don't know why people like. it, but I do watch it. If somebody shows. sends me a video and I watch some guy. get slapped KO'd, I will watch it cuz I. watched 2 hours or an hour of [ __ ]. dick operations last night. How do you feel about like bare knuckle? That's different. I mean It's dangerous, but it's still. >> It is skillful. It's like there's guys. that are really good at it and guys that. avoid being hit and guys that are just. really durable and they make their mark.

in that. Like Look, if you can punch. someone with regular gloves, why can't. you punch someone bare knuckles? Probably better for your brain cuz you. can't hit get hit as hard. Slightly. They're not standing there just waiting. for it. You get a lot of Yeah, exactly. >> though when they hit and you don't have. a glove on, you see you see them. Yeah. You see the the. the shock it puts through you. The noise. power slap makes in real life is. uncanny. It's weird. When you hear that in real life. it's like, "I've never heard a noise. like that before." And that was on.

somebody's face. Yeah. Not good. Yeah. Not good. And sometimes they they get. KO'd and then their head slaps the table. and then they fall backwards stiff and. like combo. I don't like it. >> weird. I felt watching a cockfight or. something. Exactly. >> Yeah. Yeah, but hey, you know, you sign. up. Yeah. >> You want to do it. No one's forcing you. Do whatever you want. You want to ride. bulls? Go ahead. You want to flip bikes? Whatever you want to do. >> Yeah, some people. >> to Evil Knievel your way through life? After that though, it was we got to meet. Dana and he he hooked us up with the.

fight tickets. Oh, nice. I seen you and. then it's like, "Oh, this will be my. chance." And you would. We uh. afterward we left our seats and then we. were going out and then you immediately. stood up and walked right in front of. where I was sitting. I was like, "Dang, I missed him again.". All right, is the White House thing. supposedly? We want to There's supposed. There's a concert aspect to it. Really? We want to put our name in the bucket. Is there really? Supposedly. Oh, wow. Interesting. Who's supposed to. perform so far? >> think anybody yet. Oh, I didn't even. know there was a concert aspect to it.

That's what we've heard. Our agent's. heard at least. Interesting. Uh this is. the first time I've heard of it. That. makes sense though. Some players sad. music for. Heck, yeah. Ruin everybody's buzz. It's emotional. It's emotional music. I don't think it's. sad. Doesn't make me sad. Um. yeah, the White House thing's going to. be nuts, but listen, man, that's June. That is so long from now. Who the [ __ ]. knows what's going to happen in this. wacky world between now and June. The. aliens could have already landed. I. can't wait to see the card though. Oh,

yeah. I hope it happens. Well, he's. going to try to put together the. greatest card of all time. I know that. So they're going to try to get as many. insane fights as they can. Before people. come jumping on us for that, it's like. it'd be an honor to play at the White. House period no matter who's in office. Yeah. It's like what happened to just. being able to go and meet the president. without being It should be cool. We're. assuming It should be a cool thing. It. shouldn't be polarized. >> Trump, but I'd also like to meet Obama. He seems pretty dang cool. Yeah. That would be cool. Just going to the. White House would be a big honor. Yeah.

Sure. Sure. Well, hopefully you guys can. Yeah, we'll see. Who cares? Just keep. kicking ass. You'll get there. We'll see. I don't know. Hopefully in a less less. polarizing time. By the time you get in. there. Um but thank you for being here. Appreciate you guys very much and thanks. for making awesome music. Yeah, it's. been fun to meet you. Awesome. All right, good to see you. Let's play straight, ladies and. gentlemen. Bye. [Music]. [Applause].

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