Joe Rogan Experience #2383 - Ian Edwards

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> Train by day. Joe Rogan podcast by. night. All day. >> Tada. >> Sup, son. >> How is it possible that you haven't been. here in the 5 years I've been living. here? >> Oh, it's been 5 years. >> Yeah, man. It's been 5 years. >> That's pretty [ __ ] crazy. >> That's crazy. >> Yeah. >> That doesn't make any sense. >> It doesn't. I like it, though. >> Thank you. It's like uh it's got the.

sauna walls and [ __ ]. >> It's very close to what the old one was. Instead of brick, we went with wood cuz. we were kind of faking it with the brick. in the old place. >> It was fake brick. >> It wasn't fake brick. It was real brick. But what they do is they take like um a. mesh. >> and then they take real bricks and they. slice them thin and then they put up the. cement and they glue the real bricks in. place. >> But it's not really a brick wall. It. just looks like a brick wall. Mhm. >> I feel like a real brick wall should. only be the the only brick wall that you.

show, >> right? >> You like I went to a pool hall the other. day and they had a plastic brick wall. and I got deeply disappointed. Like I. touched it. I was like, "Oh, this is a. fake brick wall. This is [ __ ] This. is plastic.". >> Yeah. I mean, it's it's a push to have. like a half fake brick wall, but to have. like a plastic brick wall. >> That's That's You're going too far. >> Did you just leave the pool hall like, "Fuck this place.". >> No, I did. No, I'm a junkie. Did. >> But the the the brick used to bother me.

that it was fake brick at the other. studio. I'm like, "We're kind of. bullshitting here.". >> Some people have like uh some comedy. clubs or somebody fake a comedy spot. They have the It's just a sheet. Yeah. Like a It's not a curtain, but. >> a brick sheet. a brick sheet and like. bro just what what you got back there. Let's just show that. >> To show whatever was back there. It's. weird how that became the backdrop for a. comedy club. A brick wall. >> Why? >> It's a good question. >> I don't know when it start. Maybe it. started with Evening at the Improv. What. was Evening at the Improv's backdrop?

Was that a brick wall? It might have. been that simple. >> All right. >> Cuz back in the 1980s, >> was it? >> Aha. Look at that. That's it. >> It makes me wonder. It makes me wonder. if that wall is. >> That's Ellen. Look at that picture of. Ellen. That's crazy. That's crazy. >> Chris Rock, Adam Sadler. >> Wow. Wow. >> When I started uh doing comedy, I used. to go to the comic strip and they had a. brick wall, too. And uh to get on stage.

at the comic strip, you had to come the. first Friday of every month and try to. pick a number. And if you got a number, they had like a lot of things. So there. like all these open micers lined up down. the street. >> And then. >> this is a dreadlocks Ian's days. >> This is pre- dreadlocks. >> You didn't have dreadlocks? >> Nah. I might have had like twist and. [ __ ]. Please don't find none of those folks. >> How long have I known you?

>> Like 30 years or something. >> Yeah, we've known each other 30 years. >> That's crazy. >> Wow. We were little babies. Yeah. >> Little babies. >> doing the Boston. >> Yep. >> Yeah. It's crazy when I like like how. not how but we we just had no [ __ ]. idea. >> Yeah. >> Like how all this [ __ ] would turn out. >> No idea. >> Yeah. >> With no idea even how it all worked, >> right? >> You know, you just taking chances on. stage trying to figure out what's funny. and then trying to get work trying to.

get work on the road. >> Mhm. I just knew once I had the. inclination to do it, the moment I had. the inclination to do it, I was like, "Oh, I'm doing this for the rest of my. life, like that once that moment hit.". So then all bets on everything else was. off. >> And I just started just doing it and. just doing it locally in Long Island. And then I remember seeing A&E at the. Improv and seeing Chappelle on there and. I noticed that all the comics on Long.

Island that used to like be ahead of me. and host the shows that I was doing the. mics on and headlined all weekend, excuse me, all weekend in Long Island. None of those comics were on TV. So I. was like, I got to get to Manhattan. Like all the comics. >> that were on TV were in Manhattan. I. felt the exact same way. >> living in Boston. All these guys I knew, they were so funny, but none of them. were on TV. >> Yeah. >> But the thing is like I knew that the. people that on were on TV, then they.

could go anywhere. >> Once you were on TV, then you could go. to Kansas, you could go to Miami, you. can go anywhere. But if you weren't on. TV, man, nobody was going to come pay to. see you. It was a risk. >> You know, you're out with your wife. You. got a date night. Like, take a chance on. this [ __ ]. >> I don't know. Look at his face. His. stupid [ __ ] dreadlocks. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I was on TV fan. >> Is it It's weird though, right? Like.

nobody nobody knew. Nobody I. >> I feel like we knew though like inside. like we had some type of blueprint cuz. we'd seen like successful comics. Yes. >> But to go from like so and I came here. moved to America when I was 17 from. Jamaica. So I when I started watching. TV, I didn't know anybody on TV. >> Oh wow. >> You know what I'm saying? I didn't know. that anybody on TV. >> So like what do you remember the first. shows you saw? >> First shows. Well, we have American.

shows on TV in Jamaica. We had one. channel back then. >> Uhhuh. >> Was it one or We had one. And then uh so. when I came here, I watched SNL cuz. Eddie Murphy was on that [ __ ] So that. was uh a requirement. I was always. watching that. Now I finally can figure. out how old you are because you lying. [ __ ] You won't tell anybody how. old you are. >> I don't lie. I just don't tell. It's two. different things. It's two different. things.

>> I might run past the question. >> I tricked you with that Eddie Murphy. line. He was only on for two seasons. I. got you. >> That's hilarious. Yeah, but I was five. years old. Not just kidding. >> Was Was Eddie Murphy on for two seasons. or one season? I think he was off for two seasons if. I'm guessing. >> Doesn't say. >> Oh, more uh four. >> Was he really? Oh, you got a little room. for error.

>> I got a little room for error. >> 81 84. >> Always got a little room for error. Come. on, man. >> So, that's three years. >> Yeah. >> So, you did the 84. Oh, you did the 81. and 84. >> Yeah. 81 season 81. 80 81 82 and 83. >> So, four seasons. So, he put in his. time. Mhm. >> There's like uh you know I was saying. about Cam Patterson getting on SNL now. >> He might be the first guy in a long time. to become a movie star. >> from that. >> Yeah. >> Cuz it kind of went away. >> Kind of went away. You know, in the Mike. Myers days and Phil Hartman and.

obviously Adam Sandler and like. everybody became a movie star from David. Spade, they all became movie stars. But. then that kind of stopped, you know, and. they kind of did it to themselves with. all that woke [ __ ] Like they kind. of like they killed comedy movies. >> or they just picked somebody funny. Like. there's people they overlook all the. time that we know are funny that could. be on that show. >> So it's good that they picked Cam. I. must say some positive derogatory [ __ ]. about Cam.

>> That's number one. Let me just. [ __ ] Cam. Number one. [ __ ] Cam. I. remember the first time I saw Cam and I. saw Cam. >> We were at. what's what's what's the the that room. on six? >> The Vulcan. >> The Vulcan. >> Yeah. >> So, I think I just did your room, then I. went to the Vulcan, and then they don't. and and uh what's his name? Like, you're. next. And then Cam was to the side. So,

then I knew he was next. It was like the. Unknown Show. >> Uhhuh. >> So then I bring him up and I watch him. and then I had a tag for him and I said, "I'm going to give you this tag." After. he got off stage, I'm going to give you. this tag, but it's only going to make. you better than me and you're going to. get picked up in advance. I could just. tell it and I was angry and I loved him. at the same time. You know what I'm. saying? You just when somebody just got. it and they [ __ ] this guy, >> they got it.

>> Yeah. You got to celebrate it. You got. to celebrate it because we got into this. as fans. >> You got in as fans and if someone's. funnier than you, you got to go, "God. damn, he's funny." It it it'll inspire. you to work. >> Yeah. >> And you can be funnier than you are, but. you can only be so funny. >> Yeah. But this how crazy it got. So then. two months later, I'm in LA. I see him. at the store and I said, "What's up, man? You in town?" Blah blah blah. I. said, "Yeah, I'm here with my manager.". It's my manager. >> Your manager's managing him? Oh my gosh.

>> I was like, I knew it. I knew it. >> Meanwhile, your manager's been ducking. your calls. >> Sorry, I'm on a jet with Cam. I'm on a. jet with Cam. >> Call you soon. >> Yeah, >> all's great. >> But that's how close the parallels were. But. >> the motherfucker's funny, man. He makes. it look easy. >> He works hard. >> Yeah. And he works hard. >> He works hard. He's always working. He's. always on stage. He's He does that. >> one minute, one new minute of Kill Tony. every week. That's hard to do. That's. hard to do.

>> It's very hard to do. >> Like you have to sit down and work on. [ __ ]. >> You have to. I mean the guys who excel. at it like Ari Maddie, Hans Kim, him. those guys like they [ __ ] work hard. >> Yeah. >> You know, and a bunch of people did it. for years and years and years. Like. William Montgomery is probably he's been. I think he's the longest running guy. ever, >> right? >> But he's such a maniac he could get a. minute out of anything, right? >> You know, he get a minute out of coffee. by going and getting some coffee. It's. like a big part of who what his comedy.

is is just his personality which is. great. >> Uhhuh. >> You know, cuz he's kind of a character. He's such a freak that when he's on. stage kind of anything is funny. >> Yeah. He like like you know what makes. me mad? Like when you say that I finally. just see what Will is. >> because it's obvious to see what Cat. Williams is. Mhm. >> Like, and it's it's a part of him and. it's his voice and it's like a I call it. a comedy cheat because I don't have it. >> Right. Right. Right. >> But like they're going to talk, it's.

going to be funny. Then if they add some. writing to it, then you don't stand a. chance. Joey Diaz is the ultimate. >> Yeah. There you go. >> Joey D is the ultimate version of that. That [ __ ] is funny the moment he. grabs the like. Come on. God gave him. that. Look at that. Come on. Everything. about him. Everything about him. He's. just walking comedy. >> Yeah. >> And he's fearless. >> Yeah. And he's fearless. And so he's he. looks like that and he talks like that. and he gets on stage, you're like, "Oh, it's over.". >> Yeah. It's all right. >> It's like you're already force. >> Yeah. It's like if you give your mind up. to him like to think for me. Let me.

>> take me on a journey. Take me on a. journey and think for me. >> But Theo's got that a little bit too. >> Yeah. And and we saw Theo develop that. like like through the years and then he. just started like. >> he just hit one time. >> drifting off and just. >> getting to that place where you're just. constantly just saying [ __ ]. >> and it kind of makes sense even if it. doesn't right. >> and it resonates like. >> Brody. >> Brody. >> another good example Brody was just. funny he would 818 till I die you he'll.

die and laughing you no one even knows. why they're laughing when they're. laughing at that he's talking about the. area code for the valley outside of LA. It's this like celebration of mediocrity. in second place. >> Hilarious. And was it Rita? >> Yeah. >> Of all places. >> He was the best at that. He was so. infectious. Yeah. >> Like his his comedy was infect. It would.

infect you and you'd be in the parking. lot like repeating his lines. >> It was so fun. >> Yeah. I would play this game with Brody. where I just treat him like a open micer. and he would just play along. >> I said, "Keep going up, kid. Man, it's. going you're going to get better. You're. going to get better spots. Don't worry. about it." He said, "Thank you, sir. You're good." Yeah. >> And we do we just do it. He just went. with it. >> Yeah. When we were starting out, like. both of us were like when I met you, we.

were just past the open micer, just. starting to work stage. Mhm. >> We're both kind of like in the same. thing. And that's such a weird stage cuz. you kind of No one knows what's going to. happen. No one like there's a lot of. dudes that we used to do comedy with. back then that I thought were really. good and they just vanished. >> Yeah. >> They vanished. They went out and got. regular jobs and they gave up. >> And that's scary to me. >> Because uh I never want that to happen. to me. >> Boy, when it does happen, it's never.

happy. >> Yeah. The guys that I know that do that, they always get weirdly bitter. >> Weirdly bitter. Like sinister. >> Like they want you to fail. They do not. want you to make it. >> Yeah. And I I I don't want that to. happen to me. I had an incident with I. don't even know if I should say his name. because I feel bad. >> You don't have to say his name. >> So he was in all these movies, like big. movies, you know. He was never like a. major star, but he's in these movies, TV. shows. He was that generation.

like. maybe a one and a half generations. before us and he's a regular at the. store and the first time Tommy sent me. to do La Hoya I used to feature but then. Tommy booked me to headline La Hoya and. told and I don't know if this guy knew. he was supposed to feature but when he. got to the club like when I first of all. I brought a a eight. So, you're supposed. to get the you're staying in the condo.

and you're supposed to get the the the. headliner bedroom. [ __ ] was in there, you know. So, I had to take the. >> You said his name. >> Ah [ __ ] I didn't say his last name. though. Bleep. Please bleep it out. >> Bling. >> Yeah. >> Let's call him Bling. >> Bling. Let's call him Bling. So, Bling. [ __ ] was in the headliner bedroom. >> Mhm. And then when we went to the store. that night and he found out like the.

host was on or the comic that they. booked before and then he walked out. >> Oh no. He walked out. He said, "I'm. headlining." So then the guy that run. the store, I think it was Ryan at the. time, I don't know if he was there, he. was like, "Just go up and we'll pay you. to headline." And I was like, "Fine, I'll I'll feature. I don't care. and you. pay me the headline and then Barry went. came back in and went up all week and.

that's how it was. But it was like that. that bitterness that. >> and I that's so crazy and I feel Yeah. I. I feel bad but I like that's why I stay. on stage. I be like I'm I am not going. to let that happen to me. You feel me? >> Yeah. A lot of people slack off, man. They they just they lose their. enthusiasm. I think he had a lot of. other problems too though, right? And. he's also from the era where they don't. write new material. >> You know what I mean? >> They do a lot of cocaine.

There was an era where those dudes cook. their brains. >> Yeah. >> So, yeah. Yeah. The things pass you by. if you don't keep up. >> Yeah. >> Or you have to let them pass you by. If. you say, "Yeah, I'm good. >> I had a good time. It was a lot of fun.". >> You can do that, too. Yeah, >> but the thing is like those guys that. that go and get regular jobs, >> maybe they're better off than the guy. who's now middling for you, >> right? Right. >> You know what I mean? Because that guy's.

probably been phoning it in for a decade. and a half. He might not have the juice. left to like reignite what made him. funny in the first place. >> Yeah. That's when I feel feel like I'll. just leave. I still got like a. competitive spirit. I feel like uh I. haven't gotten to where I want to. And I. also like that space I was just talking. about like where you just stream of. consciousness space. >> Like I'm kind of want to get to that. >> where you could just like.

>> go on stage and watch the tape. afterwards. I said that. I did that. Right. >> That Oh, that that works. That just. click. I just want to have. >> get to that. >> You know where that comes from? >> Massive stage time. Yeah, >> massive amounts of stage time. The guys. who have the best timing. >> and the best like like David, perfect. example. >> That dude's got so much stage time under. his belt. >> Yeah, >> so much stage time and so many different. places. >> One of the things about Dave is he was.

doing that New York thing where you get. in a cab and you go from one club to. another club. So, he's doing like five, six sets a night. At one point in time, I forget who the record had who had the. record of the most sets in a night, but. dudes were up to like 11 12 sets a. night. I don't even know how you manage. it. >> I I did seven one time in the city and I. barely made any of them. And I'm like, I'm going to get fired. They're not. going to book me again. I was like, I. don't want to do that's that's too. stressful. Well, I think the guys who. can do it are guys like Louis that could. just sort of show up and just do a set.

and they just put them on anytime she. shows up, >> which bumps me, which makes me late for. my five sets. >> Exactly. That's always what happens. But. that's always why there's always in New. York clubs, there's always a guy or two. hanging around hoping somebody [ __ ] up. And that that happens to a lot of I've. got spots that way before where guys. didn't show up. There's always that kind. of a situation. >> That's how I got in the cellar the first. time. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. Yeah, that's funny. >> I forgot his name. Something. Schaefer. He used to wear a blazer and used to. bark for the Boston. You might have been.

in LA by then. >> Schaefer. >> Yeah. Lewis Schaefer, I think. >> Okay. >> And so then he used to get people into. the Boston. >> Oh, he used to bark like in front of the. You were you saying is like bringing. people in off the street. >> Yeah. And he was really good at. >> No, but he he was a comic, too. >> I thought you were saying bark on stage. I was so confused. I. >> was like, I was a barker. >> Don't expect me to complete most of my. sentences. This is Yeah, that's it's. asking too much. >> It's asking too much. >> So, um So, what were we saying about. him? >> So, he was at the cellar doing the same. thing and he already worked at the.

Boston around the corner. And then I was. just going over to the cellar to hang. And he was like, "Somebody's missing. Do. you want to go up?". >> Oh. >> And I was like, "Bet." And I went up. And then SD, he told Estie, I don't know. if they were recording back then, but. she just started giving me spots. She. >> Oh, that's great. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That was the good thing about New. York was that there was a ton of spots. You could get in and you started getting. spots and. >> you started getting a name and people.

knew that you were an up andcoming. comic. You can get, you know, you get. some work and then you can get work on. the road, too. You could do Long Island. There's a lot of gigs in Long Island, New Jersey, you can do Connecticut. Everything's kind of close. >> Everything's kind of close. But here's. the thing. Once I got in the city, I. didn't want to go anywhere else. >> Mhm. I just wanted to do the city spots, the Carolinines, the stand up New York, the cellar, the Boston, sometimes the. strip once in a while because then you. could just hang out in one place.

afterwards. >> and kick it with everybody and just. laugh, >> right? >> So then sometimes I'd have like a. college that paid way more money. >> and I'd be like, "Fuck, I ain't going to. be in the city. This is a terrible weekend." And no. matter how the gig went, you just like. want sometimes it just do the do do the. upstate, tri-state, whatever gig it was, and then just head back. Just storm. right back to the city. You missed the. hang and hang. That hang. >> You missed the hang. That was. everything. >> The hang was everything. >> You remember uh Harris Pete? So I did.

the uh New Year's Eve at the improv and. then I drove from the the improv on. Melrose after the show to hang out at. the comedy store afterwards. And he. goes, "That's the way to do it. you get. your check somewhere else and you come. back home. And it just like felt like. that there. Like we were all hanging. It. was fun. If I had a great gig somewhere. on the weekend, it was fun because I. would bring guys like you or Joey or. Ari, you know, we were all together. having a good time, right? >> So, it's like the idea was like you got.

to bring at least a little bit of that. out on the road with you. >> Going on the road by yourself sucks. >> Yeah. Starting to make it sucks. sucks. >> cuz you can't afford to bring who you. want with you yet. You're just still. trying to establish yourself and you're. away from your comedy family. >> Yes. >> And so you're making a little money, but. like the camaraderie and the the hang. >> is the opposite of camaraderie. You. might be doing combat comedy. Some dude. might step on all of your premises if. he's your middle act on purpose. A lot.

of dudes did that. >> It was it was different. It was like, "Oh, you're not my friend at all." Like. They're trying to come up, too. >> Not just trying to come up, but trying. to come up in a dark way, >> right? >> You know, there was a lot of thieves. back then. Guys would steal your bits and do them. before you that were like your middle. act that saw you on Thursday night and. then they do your bits on Friday. You. got to pay attention. You're like, "What. are you doing, man?". >> Yeah. That's [ __ ] up. because they. were in like some nowhere town and they. never they didn't have a real comedy.

community and they just saw some guy. coming in from Boston and New York and. they just I'm going to [ __ ] him up, you. know? And it was. >> it's just comedy when you have a group. of people like like it was in New York. or like it was in Boston. >> or in LA, it's always so much more fun. If you're starting out and you're in. like Pittsburgh, like how big's the. scene in Pittsburgh, >> right? >> You know, >> you know what I did love about New York? how brutally honest all the comics were. to each other. >> Yeah. >> So, even like Patrice, like he had just.

dropped a special, but then he just went. on this thing of like I forgot the type. of material he was doing, but we. confronted him about that [ __ ] Like, hey man, that [ __ ] is hacky. And he was. just doing it for a minute, just [ __ ]. around. >> Probably just trying to get some. material dropped a special. >> Yeah. Just trying. But he didn't get. upset or nothing. And then we we tell. each other [ __ ] I I remember I had too. many black and white jokes and they.

would we did a uh gig out of town and. there's a bunch of black comics. We come. back in the van and they were killing. me. You got you talk about black black. people cook like this, white people cook. like this. Because they was like you got a lot of. black and white jokes. I was like no I. don't. And they was like yeah you do. and they started naming them and I was. like, "Oh [ __ ]. >> I do have a I never wanted to have black. people this, white people that jokes.".

>> You know, the real problem is if you do. short sets and then you got to piece it. together and do a long set. >> I brought this one dude on the road with. me once. >> and he had so many jokes about being a. Mexican cuz he was used to doing five. minute sets, but when he had to do 20, I'm like, "Bro, you can't keep saying. that. You're saying it over and over and. over again." One thing I love about. being Mexican. And then there's another. one thing I love about being Mexican. Like, bro, like, we gota you got to add. some spice to this soup. This is crazy. This is one flavor.

>> That's how weird comedy is. It's like. there's levels to like first you got to. get your first five minutes, >> right? >> And you get your first five minutes, you. feeling like I can kill. I can go from. beginning to end and kill. But then now. you got to get 10. >> Mhm. And then you're going to start like. you you you're watering down your solid. five. You know what I mean? You you're water. and you're not getting that exhilaration. that you work so hard for in the five. But then you get to 10 and then by the.

time you get to 15, you could like host. somewhere on the road. And then you. might go out of your state, two miles. out of your state, and realize, "Oh. [ __ ] these jokes were dependent on. where I live.". >> Yep. >> They do they do not work here. >> Yep. >> I went to I had all these Jamaican jokes. about being Jamaican because there's so. many Jamaicans in New York. And I went. with some comics to do Temple and it was.

in a big it might have been where they. play basketball like Terry Hodgeges was. on the show. A bunch of strong black. comics and uh my opener was a Jamaican. about a joke about being Jamaican. My. closing killed in New York. Killed in. New York. And I did the first joke and. people had been killing before me. Then. I went on. I did the first joke. more quiet than this.

in a stadium full of people. >> Oh no. >> And then I start panicking on the inside. which definitely showed on the outside. >> Yeah. >> And then I was like, let me go for my. middle joke, >> you know, which is my second strongest. joke. >> That didn't work. I was like, I got to. do 15 minutes. I'm on my closer by the. third choke. >> Oh no. >> And that bombed and it was bad. But.

thank God they booed. I didn't have to. struggle. So they booed. I was the only. one that bombed that night. >> Wow. And I bombed because like. like I said, I moved here when I was 17. So I didn't have enough like American. [ __ ]. >> right? To like I like the Jamaican [ __ ]. about me growing up in Jamaica just. started working. But there was a radius. to that [ __ ] you know? That [ __ ] would. work in Florida, that [ __ ] would work in. DC. And that [ __ ] would work in New York.

and maybe one other place where there's. a concentrations of like Jamaicans or. West Indian people, >> right? >> And American people that grew up with. them. That's a rough feeling. How many people. in that audience? >> Man, I would say at least 2,000. >> Yeah. And they booed. And these [ __ ]. like, "Yo, we going to the afterparty. You want to go?" Like, "No, >> but I I stayed in the hotel room and I. had a great night. I watched Dumb and. Dumber for the first time and laughed my. ass off.".

>> Well, some shows like that are. important. They suck a fat dick, but. they teach you like, "Oh, I can't just. rely on like regional stuff.". >> Yeah. Then I realized like, "Oh, this is. you're only going to kill in town. Now. you got to like. >> figure out like. >> like. universal." Yeah. >> Truths of comedy. >> Well, that's why the real G's travel all. over the world. You know, the Jimmy. Cars, >> that guy, he goes everywhere. Yeah. >> Like there's something to that. There's. something to going everywhere. >> Cuz I've I've done comedy in other.

places. I took uh um I took Tony. Hinchcliffe once to uh Sweden. >> We did comedy in Stockholm and he's. like, "Dude, I think I'm bombing." No, they're laughing. And then they stop. laughing. >> It's just different. Like they're. different in Europe. They're laughing. like I I listen to your set. He goes, "I. never got a flow going." I go, "First of. all, it's a big place, so you're. probably not used to doing a place. that's this big." And then on top of. that, you're in Europe, right? >> And they're, you know, their English is. pretty good, >> but it's not perfect. So, it probably.

takes a couple seconds for them to. figure out, oh, very funny. Very funny, Tony Hinch. >> So hilarious. >> I mean, what you told him is only true. if you didn't get a flow going. Did you. get a flow going? >> I got a flow going. So then, >> but there was also they were there to. see me and they didn't know he was going. to be there and they probably didn't. even know what a comedy club was. You. know, these are all just people that. came out to see me because I was famous, >> right? >> You know, this is like if you know like. this was probably.

more than 10 years ago at least. >> Mhm. But if you know comedy now though, I think was a YouTube I think kind of. like all you need now is to have a. really good set and you could tour the. whole world like James McCann. You know. that dude from Australia. Very. >> if I see him I might know who he is. >> Very funny. Very funny. So funny that. Shane Gillis worked with him in. Australia and convinced him to move to. America and then brought him to the. mothership.

>> Curly hair. >> I've seen him here. I've seen him here. Yeah. >> Very [ __ ] funny and very smart and. really nice guy. Like super super nice. guy. >> But he um he's one of those guys who's. like he like if Shane didn't find him, >> right? >> Shane found him in Australia. He was. like ready to quit comedy. >> Oh [ __ ] That's crazy. >> Cuz like what am I doing? I can't do. anything over here. It's like it's hard. You have to be a part of these festivals. and these festivals, a lot of these. festivals like every year the artists. will write like a new hour, you know,

and it'll be like about a subject. >> Yeah. And that's another thing. They do. those hours and after the year they. don't record those hours. There's so. many comics in Europe, England, Australia, cuz I've been to those. festivals that do their hour and then. retire it after the last big festival. And I said, "Did you record those?". Because you could have like have a. backlog of [ __ ] to like put online, >> right? >> To catch people up with you to create. views and make them. >> forgot how it works, too.

>> But they Yeah, they weren't doing that. back then. But how do you retire. something without at least having like. >> I know one big record of it. >> Well, they have a weird system over. there. Like I was talking to McCann. about what the the festival system is. like cuz like the festivals are kind of. like the only thing. >> in comedy. There's a few clubs like. there's a really good club in Melbourne. >> Um, what is that club called? The LA The. Comics Lounge in Melbourne. Is that the. name of it? >> I worked there uh with Ari Maddie, crazy.

enough. >> And Hinchcliffe and I did that like nine. years ago, I think. So, there's some. comedy clubs. I'm sure there's some in. Sydney, but. >> I did one in Sydney. >> When you're traveling, you're doing like. these uh these these comedy tours, >> right? And so it's festival based stuff. like there's a bunch of different. festivals that people go to and when. they go to festivals like that's one of. the things about like like Scotland when. they do that Edinburgh those guys the. Edinburgh Fringe Festival those guys.

they create a new hour every year. >> Yeah. >> And you got to come back and talk about. trauma or talk about you know what it's. like to be whatever. >> Right. Right. Whatever stage of life. they're in whatever stage of politics. they're in. And that's what people. expect, which is interesting because. it's not really Americanstyle standup. the way you and I do it. >> or the way, you know, it's traditionally. done. They're doing like storybased. standup, >> which is, you know, it's great. It's not. it's not a knock on it. It's just a. different thing. And if you try to do.

that in America, you'll probably get. steamrololled. >> Yeah. I've seen somewhere that they look. kind of one man showy or one woman. showy. So, >> absolutely. So, so there's. >> gaps of talking. >> and then a punch line which which which. is fine. >> because like. >> it's just a different thing. >> You're doing a different thing. Like. when I'll say things that I don't. believe at all. >> just because it's funny. It's like cuz. it's a ridiculous thing to say and to. also I want to get you thinking that I'm. saying things that I don't believe at.

all. Like this is just for fun. Like. this the whole thing is supposed to be. for fun. this idea that comedy is. supposed to be I mean it can be anything. right it can be this like educational. experience for taking people on a. journey through your life and how you've. come to this to who you are right now. like okay yay at the end you celebrate. >> because you're non-binary whatever the. [ __ ] it is right like or it can just be. silly let's have fun let's be silly. let's say some stupid [ __ ] that you. probably shouldn't say because it's fun. >> I need to do more of that to and I I.

hold back from that. >> cuz you live in LA. >> Nah, it's just I I think it's just it's. just me. You know what I mean? Like I. see like I see you say some stuff. I see. other people say some stuff and I'm like. uh. I'm like I don't even wonder how I'm not. like that. But it's making me think now. just if I'm to get to this flow state. that I want to get to to the to to the. last dragon phase, you know what I mean? when you're on stage and the glow is.

around you. >> like I might have to like step on that. plank. >> a little bit. >> and see what it feels like. >> You do. You do when we're hanging out. >> Mhm. >> You talk bad [ __ ] when we're hanging out. and we're. >> That's true. >> You say some wild [ __ ]. >> You just take it down a notch when you. get on stage. You just got to treat. those people the same way you treat your. best friends. >> I don't trust people like that. So I. can't. >> I don't either, but that's why I take. their phones away. That's why they all.

have their phones in the underbag. But. also the phone's in the yonder bag. So I. want look it's hard for me, man. I get. it. It's hard for me to not check my. phone. I want to like see if anybody. texted me. I get bored for 3 seconds. I'm like, "What's in the news?". >> 3 seconds. >> It's I get it. But sticking that phone. in a bag is good for everybody. It's. good for us because we get a chance to. [ __ ] around and we get a chance to come. up with new stuff that like. >> there's a bunch of times you say. something the first time you're like, "Oh, that did not sound good. >> I got to figure out a softer way to say.

it." Like I could feel people tighten. up. >> I didn't mean it that way. It's just I'm. trying to figure out the right way to. say it. And. >> that's just the way it came out. >> It comes out bad. Right. >> Patrice had a great line about that. He's like, "You got to realize that a a. bad joke that offends everyone and a. great joke both come from the same. place, >> right? >> Is I'm just trying to make you laugh, >> right? >> It's not I'm a devious person. It's. going to sneak through some agenda to. ruin your mind." No, you're just trying.

to make people laugh, >> right? >> But sometimes people think something's. going to be funny and it's just not, >> right? >> And you try it and you go, "Fuck." And. you can give up on it or you could. figure out a way to make it work. Like. there's been a like Chris Rock had that. iconic bit. I love black people. I hate. >> So he takes that bit and he said it just. bombed for like the longest time. He. could not get it to work. He's like he. knew there was something in there but it.

was just bombing. Right. >> And I asked him how long. He said it. like a year. >> Oh, >> like a year. And then it became iconic. >> Yeah. Yeah. He just figured it out. And. sometimes there's bits like that that. just like you got you got to take the. chance at offending people. You don't. mean to offend them. >> Your season, your shot. The NFL season. is rolling and every touchdown can bring. you closer to a payout with DraftKings. Sportsbook, an official sports betting.

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use excluded. Restrictions apply. Additional NFL Sunday Ticket terms at. youtube.com/go/nls. Sunday/terms. Limited time offer. >> And and I don't mind doing that. Like I. I do have bits I have bits that offend. people that shouldn't even offend. people. >> Oh, there's always going to be that. >> There's always that. But there are bits. where I'm like, "All right, I'm going. for it here." But there is like I still. have these rules. >> about offending people and I want to. offend them. >> Not that I don't want some people. Some.

things that I think are ridiculous. I'm. going to go for it. >> Right. >> But there cannot be a paper trail back. to me. where I have to apologize. >> Right. Right. Right. >> So I'm like I'm like a careful. protagonist or a careful antagonist. Yeah. you know, like I do want to. antagonize. I do want to say some [ __ ]. but I be like, I can't say it that way. So, so I don't know. Maybe I have to.

take more more risk. I got to figure. this out. Like, like you know how you we. talk about these naturally like we talk. about Joey and we talk about uh uh Cat. and all these and Cam and I feel like. there's a gear left in me. >> Right. Yeah. >> That I'm that I'm having trouble. accessing. >> Well, that's interesting.

>> And I don't want to be like them, but I. feel like there's. >> freedom in my version of me. >> Right. Right. Right. >> Yeah. >> No, I know exactly what you're saying. I. know exactly what you're saying. And I. know you can get there, too. >> It's not like outside of your reach. >> Right. >> And I think it's numbers. I think that's. a lot of It's intention. like putting. your intention on that and really really. working hard on that. And then it's. numbers. >> A lot of it is doing numbers. You know, one of the things I found when I was. doing. >> at my club, I was doing three nights a.

week, two sets a night. >> was too much. It's like six hours of. comedy, right? But but. >> is it's like a guy who's training for a. fight. Like you don't want you can't. train the way you're training for a. fight all year round because your body. will break down. So fighters what they. call peak. So they peak for for a. competition and then they get into the. last week and the last week they coast. so their body gets a chance to recover. So they go into the fight they're. basically almost killing themselves. >> Mhm. >> But in that almost killing themselves.

When you recover for that week you come. out so strong. And so I think I was doing I was doing. that for like I was good at that for. about three months which is like a fight. camp and then it was like my voice. started going and I was like this is. kind of crazy. Six hours of comedy a. week is a lot but there's some a freedom. that comes from doing that many sets. There's a freedom. >> of like exploring thoughts with a lack. of tension which holds us back and most.

things that people do that are. difficult. One of the key things that. holds them back is a tension. It's. tension. It's fear. It's like you're. tight. You don't feel loose and relaxed. And you know, you can feel loose and. relaxed. So, it's very frustrating. You're like, "What is that? Where is. that loose thing? I know it's in there. I got to find it.". >> Yeah. I remember the first time I killed. and uh it it's nothing now, but at that.

moment, it's nothing now. It It's always. something. But when I've seen like Jerry. Seinfeld at the same club kill for an. hour on a weekend. >> Right. Right. Right. >> In his prime. >> Yeah. >> I was like, "Oh [ __ ] I didn't really. kill. >> I just did." Okay. >> But the first time like. >> getting a great response. >> Getting a great response from beginning. to end after like you're struggling. You're struggling. You barely got one. joke that works. >> Yeah. And then I I went on that night.

and everything just hit. But it not only. did it just everything just hit, I. watched it. >> Like I it was a real out of body. experience. Like I was watching me. I. was watching the audience, but I was on. stage. And then when I was done and the. applause and the laughter, I floated off. and then it ended. And then then I was. really addicted. That's when I got cuz I. I got high on stage. I I'd never even.

done drugs then, but I said this is what. drugs feels like. >> and I'm addicted to that. >> You got into the passenger ride. >> Yeah. >> So the passenger ride is when you almost. feel like you're a passenger of your own. act. You're so in it that and you're so. like you're so not getting in your own. way. >> Yeah. >> That you you like the other part of you. is like we got this. Let me take care of. this. like, "Oh, this is so much fun. Let me sit back and watch this dude. work." And you don't get in the way. That other dude, he gets in the way.

It's like if you're driving with someone. and they're a backseat driver, like. there's a guy coming on the right, I. [ __ ] see him, man. Relax. [ __ ] I'm. not I don't have my blinker on. >> You know, there's people like that and. they make you tense. >> Yes. >> Right. That guy is in your head. >> That person who makes you tense when. you're driving, that [ __ ] backseat. driver, that that is in your head, >> right? >> That [ __ ] with you all the time. Like. you might think it doesn't [ __ ] with. you. >> Yeah, it doesn't because I don't I don't. even hear it or see it. I just know. >> he's there. >> That something must be there.

>> You know what I mean? >> Yeah. But if you can. >> the backseat driver, >> if you can control that, then you're. zen. And you get to that zen place and. you know you can get to that zen place. and you've done it a bunch of times, then it's the most frustrating when you. can't get there. >> Yeah. Because I did it that night. without trying, right? Like I walked on. stage just like that night, just like. any other night. So what was the. difference with that night that I had. this. >> Were you recording back then? >> No. >> No.

>> No. >> I got lucky that I I met this guy Mike. Dunovan who was a big comic in Boston. He was a big headliner in Boston. Very. funny guy. >> And he recorded all the sets. Oh [ __ ]. And he would bring like a [ __ ] tape. player back then. >> Yeah. You'd have to bring a whole. >> [ __ ] thing. You had a press and [ __ ]. Um, and he goes, "You never know." He. goes, "There there's one thing you might. say that is like the best thing you've. ever said and it comes off the top of. your head and you'll forget it, >> right? >> And it might be like the best part of a. bit.

>> You might have a like a new completely. new tagline that comes in your head in. the moment and it kills and it becomes. like the main punchline of the bit.". Like, you have to record those. If you. don't record those, you'll never get. those. >> I record all my sets now. >> Yeah. >> And then you I do have those moments. when you're like, I didn't even remember. saying that. This is the best thing I've. said in months. >> Yeah, it's Nobody wants to do that extra. extra work of sitting down and listening. to yourself after you've already done. stand. I'm like, ew, >> right? >> Yuck. >> I know. >> It's gross. >> It's It was It's It was tough for me to.

get myself to listen to myself. >> It's hard. >> Yeah. But, you know, this is like I. think one of the things that we're. dealing with and this is what we try to. address at the club is that there's. there's never been like a curriculum of. how to do standup. And there's one. there's no one can really tell you how. to do it. >> because everybody has a totally. different way of doing it. But at least. we can give you like an honest framework. of how we did it and what we would we.

what we did wrong and why we think we. did that, why it comes out clunky and. >> and then at the club the thing we try to. do is just set it up where there's a. bunch of spots like so there's two days. of open mic nights. So you have two. nights with open mic nights. >> and then you have the door people who. are real comics who audition for the job. with their act. So Adam has to watch their act and say, "Okay, you know, you've been doing this. for x amount of years. You got real. potential." And it's like, you get a.

chance to watch Colin Quinn. You get a. chance to watch Ian Edwards. You get a. chance to watch Shane Gillis. All these. great comed, you know, Jimmy Carr, all. these great comedians are there all the. time. It's like the greatest education. and standup that you could ever and. everyone's cool to you. Everyone's going. to be friendly. Everyone's going to. answer questions. Everyone's going to. and and then you got Kill Tony, which is. the number one place where a comedian. can break out in America today. The. number one place is Kill Tony. Yeah. >> If you have one good [ __ ] minute and.

you could just rock the house for one. minute, you could change the course of. your whole life. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That gave me chills when cuz I've. seen that. I've seen that there on that. show. >> Changes the course of your whole life. forever and ever. You where you you're. at that stage where you've been doing. comedy five, six years. is you don't. know if you could, you know, you're. living in Seattle. The scene's not that. good. And you say, "Fuck it. I'm going. to go to Austin." You scratch up some. [ __ ] money you made as a waiter. You. get in your car. You drive all the way.

to Texas. You put in for one minute. You. don't get up. You stay there. I'm going. to stay on Monday. You come back next. Monday. You don't get up. You're like, "Oh my god, I'm running out of money.". You you start thinking, "I'm I should. get a job." And then you you get that. one minute and boom, you [ __ ] kill. You [ __ ] kill. And then you go home, you're like, "Oh my god, I'm doing it. I'm doing it. It's actually happening.". And then next thing you know, you're a. professional comedian. You're touring. all over the world. >> It's pretty crazy. >> It's pretty crazy.

>> Cuz some people, they'll just come to. town for that one night or that one day. >> They should. If they if that's all they. can do. >> and and do and then see if they can get. up. And if they don't get up, it's a. drag. If you do get up, >> if you just do mediocre, >> that's not good either. >> That's not good either. >> That's a soul crusher. If you bomb on. Kill Tony, that's a soul crusher. >> Then you got to try to come back. But. yeah, it's it's it's worth it, >> bro. Dudes have gone on stage for the. very first time in their life in Madison. Square Garden to a soldout show.

That's like the first time you lace up. the gloves. You [ __ ] Mike Tyson when he. was 20. >> They deserve that. >> They [ __ ] deserve that. You. >> Oh my god. as you said in the place. where Mike Tyson. >> Yeah. It's like fighting Mike Tyson. who's 20 is the first time you ever laid. the. >> glove. You you didn't take one practice. to. >> and your first opponent is Mike Tyson in. his prime after he just beat Trevor. Bourbick. Right. Right. >> Good luck. >> Or even before he beat Trevor Bourbick,

even better. >> Madison Square Garden while Custom Auto. was alive. Madison Square Garden sold. out show. Kill Tony. You're on the the. build. Dice Clay is there. Big Jay. Oerson, David Tell's there. Shut the. [ __ ] up. Oh my god. >> Why would you do that? Because I feel. like some of those people are are. narcissists. >> Well, some people are just insane, >> right? >> You know, it's like, you ever watch. street fight videos? Like, why are you. fighting? You don't know how to fight at. all. This is so crazy. And they're.

starting it and then all a sudden. they're out cold. >> People are crazy. >> I know. I watch some of those backyard. fights. >> Yeah. Oh, I watch a lot of those. >> Yeah. Yeah. like I forgot the one that I. watch, but it's pretty popular and uh. they got like a cage around it fancy. fancy cage and they try to make it. official, >> but I'm like. >> I'm watching this more than I watch UFC. >> There's something about it. There's. something What is it about that that I. won't I won't watch division 2 soccer.

I'll watch Premier League. You feel me? >> Yes, I do. That's a good point. Like. like do you watch the other professional. below UFC league? Sometimes. >> you do. >> Yeah, I do. >> But like for me, I'm a soccer snob, so I. want to watch There's too many of the. best guys playing all week. >> I think soccer is a different thing. though. >> I think it's a more gradual acceleration. of progress. And then there's a thing. about fighting where there's a lot of. prodigies out there. Mhm.

>> So there's like a lot of dudes that you. just hear about like I'll hear about it. through the grapevine like this guy. trained with this guy and he tells me. that and then he's fighting for LFA and. this is like his debut fight and I watch. I go oh [ __ ] here we go cuz there's guys. out there that you never even heard of, >> right? >> That are in like one FC and uh the PFL, these other organizations that are world. beaters. They're like elite elite. fighters. Man, >> so you got I have to pay attention to as. many organizations as possible because. there's always a bunch of people like.

>> that come over. Bunch of Russians, man. Damn, there's a lot of Russians. A lot. of beast Russians. A lot of beast guys. from Dagistan and the beast guys from. all the those [ __ ] people from that. part of the world are hard ass people. Dude, >> I I want to ask you about this one guy. Now, I I stumbled on they say he's the. best fighter in history. He he was in. the UCL. So he started out when he was. 19 in this thing where it's like a.

>> it's like flat. >> but kind of like a little slope. >> like banked on the sides. Banked on the. side. >> You're talking about Frank Shamrock. >> No, but this was. >> no. >> a black guy. Okay. >> And then he had a kid, then became a. cop, and then maybe like when he was. like. 30, got back in and he did. >> Boy, this is like translating an ancient. language. How do I not know who this guy.

is? You don't know about it to me. >> I know. He tell me who he fought. >> You pulled up with your ship. >> You just give me one [ __ ] name. I'll. tell you exactly who this is. >> I can't even give you one organization. There's no way he's the best fighter of. all time. >> But they. >> Who's saying he's the best fighter of. all time? YouTube video. >> Yeah, it's a YouTube video. They put the. compilation together. But let me tell. you something, >> okay? >> Like, so I've been I I'm not an expert. I've been to some fights uh with you and. I've watched a little This [ __ ] was.

nice. >> I'm sure. >> Like I remember like the first time I. saw Israel. >> Mhm. >> And I I saw his compilation stuff before. and this is before USC. And then I said, "Hey man, is this guy real?" And you. were like, "Yes." So this guy, >> so Izzy is a perfect example. I had my. eyes on Izzy for like years, right? >> Because in the kickboxing world, he was. [ __ ] people up with style points. >> Yes. This guy, too. >> Yeah. Okay. And do you don't remember. his name is Mike? You think his name was.

Mike Something Junior? >> That's all I got. >> Good for you. How long ago was this? Was. it a YouTube video you were watching? >> It was a YouTube video. Like. >> is it how long ago? >> It was probably like six months ago. >> [ __ ]. You've probably gone through 50,000. videos since. >> Jamie can't even find. He's like, "That's not enough information, sir. You. can put that in the chat." GPT. >> He was a cop had. >> and he's married he's married to like a. a female fighter now. >> and but he was like his style was like,

>> you know, the the type of. >> this is driving me. >> stream of consciousness type of comedy. He he would do the. the the you know the thunder kick on the. regular. >> Okay. Rolling Thunder. >> Rolling Thunder kick on the regular. That was just like standard. >> Like he his feet were his hands. >> And and his hands were like feet too. And he was just very explosive. And he. did one time that a few times like two.

guys beat him because he did go to the. UFC for a little bit towards the end of. his career and they did fight some K1. [ __ ] He fought in everything. >> But God, you drive me crazy. >> I know, man. I wish I had more info, bro, cuz I want to know. >> As soon if you if you if you tell me who. this is, I can tell you everything about. them, >> right? >> But it's like I'm trying to figure out. through this puzzle. >> This is like hieroglyphics. Uh, >> I think just there's too many keywords. I'm trying to lock down.

>> I'm trying to run this through Jamie's. Jaime brain. Jamie usually is pretty psychic about. this kind of [ __ ] and figure out who the. [ __ ] it is. But your amount of. information, it's like I would think of. you as a suspect. Now, if you're a. witness, I like the way this guy. describes the scene, I don't like it. I'd pull the other detective aside. I. go, I think we got our guy. This guy's. full of [ __ ]. He's trying to throw us off the case. I. think he works for the other team. >> Hilarious. >> An agent.

>> I should have booked barked this guy. >> You should have bookmarked. >> I should have bookmarked this guy cuz I. was like, I need to know if this guy is. really like this narrator is saying, but. he fought all the legit things. >> Almost thinking like, are you sure that. this was one real person and they didn't. just put together a bunch of stuff about. multiple people? >> Did you get hoodwinkedked by some AI? >> He was baldheaded. How about that? >> Oh boy. had a low flat top. How about that? >> Figure out who this would be. >> Light-kinned black guy. >> God damn. >> Lanky.

>> How like how long ago? I guess that. might be better. >> Yeah. What year are we talking about? >> I would say he might have ended his. career like the like 2008 2005ish or. something like cuz I was like when I was. watching it I was like, >> "Oh, I got to stop watching for his. fights." But then it got to. >> like oh this this guy's retired now. M. >> and he was like he retired like maybe. like late 30s. >> Listen, there's a lot of guys like that. unfortunately that are really good. Really good. And then you watch him like.

one or two fights and you go, "Oh my. god, this guy might be the best in the. world.". >> It's just a the game is so brutal. It's. the most brutal sport ever. You're using. your body to try to break another. person's body. >> Damn. >> And the most effective way to do that is. to separate them from their. consciousness. man, >> you know, or take their legs out until. they they can't walk anymore. >> I I remember one time we went to a fight. and then uh I was like, "Hey, Joe, why.

are they uh you know, they walk to the. ring together with their whole crew and. then right before they get into the. ring, they hug everybody and it's like. I'm like, "Why are they hugging?" They. they're they're going to be right there. on the outside of the octagon and. they're going to be yelling instructions. and they were in the locker room. together, but right before the person. enters the ring, it's almost like a. goodbye because I might not exit this. ring the same way I entered. >> Yes. >> Or at exit at all. >> Yes.

>> You know, so it's that's that's what. fighting is to me is like that's how. dangerous it is. Like when you're like. >> Yeah. >> Goodbye. Well, it's the last thing you. could do to support that person that you. love that's about to go do that, >> right? >> It's real hard when you watch your. friends. It's real hard when you watch your. friends get beat up. >> Damn. >> Yeah. >> Real hard. >> Yeah. >> You know, it was real hard me watching. uh Cormier when Jones beat him up, >> right? >> That was hard. The Stipe one was hard,

you know, especially the one with Stipe. KOed him against the It's just hard. Yeah, >> because you know them. You know them as. human beings. You know what that's going. to do to them? It's [ __ ] devastating. It's like it's like a loss. It's like. you lost a family member or you lost a. dog. >> Yeah. See, it's affecting you right now. [ __ ] Just thinking about it. It's like. >> It's hard, man. I start crying. >> Yeah. But like for me, the hardest one. was Sha because Sha Shab didn't want to.

quit and I was like, "Dude, >> you the thing about Brendan that most. people don't know is how many. concussions he took. >> outside of the fights." So, you see the. fights, but he used to spar with Shane. Carwin, man. Shane Carwin was the. interim heavyweight champion. The. biggest fists ever registered in the. UFC. He had like five XL fists, >> bro. He's so big. It was ridiculous. He. would he looked like a he looked like. like in the Avengers like like he was he. would be like the Hulk. He doesn't look.

like a real human like all the other. people were there and then there's Shane. Carw. He was a freak. He's a freak. And. um Brennan Shab and him used to spar all. the time. And he would get knocked out. all the time. >> That's crazy. >> He would get concussions all the time. All the time. He got a concussion like. days before he fought Ben Rothell. He. got a concussion days before he fought. no Gera. Like he was getting concussions. all the time, like in the gym. >> Yeah, that's crazy. >> So, I knew about all that [ __ ] too. And.

I was seeing the effects and I was like, "You got to get out now. If you don't. get out now, there's no happy ending. There's no happy ending to the guy who. gets knocked out a lot, >> right? >> It's terrible. I was watching a video. the other day of that dude who fought. Mike Tyson when he uh right when he got. out of jail. Remember when Mike Tyson. looked like a bodybuilder almost, >> right? Was it a white guy? >> Yes. >> Yeah. Yes. And that dude I I found the. video cuz I sent it to my friends. I was. like, "Bro, brain damage is real, fellas.".

>> Oh, [ __ ]. >> Cuz it's it's just unfortunate. But you. you watch a guy talk and you go, "Oh, okay. This is just how it goes." Like. >> Yeah. Like. >> Yep. All of them. All the greats. >> All the greats. >> You know, Sugar Ray seems to have kept. it together pretty good. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um, but there's a lot of. these guys. I'm not going to find it. >> Is that. >> That's right. Peter McNeeling. >> Yeah. >> This is the the guy that fought and he. [ __ ] went after him, man. He went. after Tyson, which is crazy. >> Like, he pushed him away. He's trying to. get after him, but. >> bro, Tyson.

>> and he's got some movement. >> He headbutted him there. But Tyson. looked phenomenal back. Like, physically. phenomenal. Like, look how good he. looked. He just took him apart. >> Mhm. >> Just that that knockout alone. What? How's the rest of your life going to be? Cuz he's not even. >> Is it Did his corner jump in? >> Yeah, they said that's enough. Let's We. know where this [ __ ] story ends, >> right? That's a good corner right there. >> I was reading about Jerry Quarry. yesterday. Jerry Quarry was the guy who.

fought Muhammad Ali when Muhammad Ali. had just gotten um his license back. >> So, he took three years. He wouldn't. fight in Vietnam. Mhm. >> And they took away his they took away. his championship and they took away his. license to box. >> He couldn't make a living for three. years. And then he fought this dude. Jerry Quarry. And it looked like he had. been on the couch. Like Ali didn't look. like Ali anymore. It didn't physically. look like Ali. It wasn't ripped. He loo. he didn't look fat, but he looked kind. of like.

>> it wasn't a physique that of old Ali. >> It changed it changed the way he fought. honestly. Like look at him there. >> He looks good. >> Still a little pudgy. But yeah, but not. like comparison, >> right? So, this was the first fight back. and. >> Jerry Cor was like this just really. tough Irish guy, >> right? >> And um him and his brother were like. notorious for having like horrific gym. fights. >> He was a good fighter, man. Real good. fighter. But he died young and um he had.

terrible CTE and dementia before he died. and so did his brother. And his brother. only had a few professional fights. >> See, Cory had a bunch of pro fights and. he fought guys I believe he fought. Frasier. He might have fought like Ken. Norton. He fought like big time. heavyweight power punchers and and. legends. But his oo that was a good left. foot. Plus. >> he's Irish. You don't know. You didn't. count the amount of bar fights he's had. You know what I mean? >> And but the big thing, man. Oh, damn.

This is a beautiful combination. >> You forget how good Ali was. Even with. three years off, dude. He looks sweet. >> But now I want I want to I want to show. you something different, though, because. we're seeing this Ali. >> Mhm. >> Look, first of all, take care of those. [ __ ] those strings. >> Hey, referee, tie that [ __ ] off. Tape. that [ __ ] off and cut it. >> Um, >> show me Ali versus Cleveland big big cat. Williams. This is my favorite fight to. watch. If anybody never saw Ali before,

>> I said, "You got to see Ali before they. made him retire.". >> And then you got to realize we lost. three years of this Ali who was. different than anybody who had ever. boxed before anybody. So this is prime. Ali. Like look at the difference right. away in the movement, >> right? the the one who fought Jerry Quarry was. kind of standing in front of him more, you know, and he was boxing him and. looking good, but this Ali is like, "Good luck hitting him. Good luck, dude.

Look at this.". >> That guy's like, "This is awkward.". Like, "How do I stop this thing from. moving so I can hit it?". >> And this guy who he's fighting, Cleveland Big Cat Williams, was a. killer. He had vicious power, man. Look. at his build. Like, Cleveland was a. dangerous puncher. Dangerous puncher. You couldn't let him hit you. But good. because Ali wasn't gonna he wasn't going. to let him hit him. And bro, he tunes. him up in this fight and at the end of. the fight, scooch along so he could see. like cuz he he cooks some. >> Is this his before he beat Lon?

>> Uh, yes. Yes. Quite a bit before he beat. Lon cuz he beat List. No, no, no, no, no. Excuse me. I was thinking of um I. was I was not thinking of Liston. I was. thinking of uh Foreman. >> He beat Liston to win the title. This is. this is after that. >> After that. So this was when he was. already Ali because when he beat listed. it was in black and white too. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. >> So this was right before they made him. retire. So this is like 1967. >> So this is before the force retirement. He just walked moving backwards. Moving.

backwards with the one two. And it's so. pretty. There's no wind up man. >> It's just people who don't think boxing. is beautiful. You got to watch Ali. Cleveland Big Cat Williams. And you. should watch a little bit of Big Cat. Williams before that. You see the slug. fest that he was in where he was [ __ ]. people up and you know how dangerous. this was for Ali. But look at him. He's. just bing bing bing bing bing bing bing. bing bing bing. >> Just beautiful man. >> Yeah. Ali took him to his world. >> Took him to his world. >> He's like this is a moving man sport. >> Exactly. >> We're not going to just stand in front.

of each other and just have a slugfest. >> And this is the first guy in the. heavyweight division to ever move like. this. >> I mean nobody moved like this back. Look. at that combination. Woo. Then he stands. over with his hands up. >> It's It's extra embarrassing with that. hairstyle. >> You had your hair done, bro. >> Like you had to conching it. You had. some women fixing it up and pressing it. for the fight so you could go out. afterwards, >> bro. >> Like he never wore the suit that he.

bought to go with that hairstyle for the. afterparty. >> Wait, wait, is did this keep going after. that knockdown? >> No. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> That's crazy. They let that guy fight. another round. >> Oh my god. It was the end of the round. So he was saved by the bell. They used. to have saved by the bell back then, too. >> Oh [ __ ] I feel like because of his. reputation and how many punches he's. taken in his life, in his career before. this, you have to let this keep going,

>> bro. He just did the shuffle on him. Oh, >> now he's feeling it. Look at this. Oh, damn. Oh my goodness. >> Oh my goodness. See, this is the Ali. that we we missed. God, the guy got back. up again. >> Cleveland Big Cat Williams was a stud. >> Yeah. >> To get back up all these times from. that. >> Damn. >> Look how good Ali looks, man. Oh my. goodness. I mean, he looks like a. middleweight. It's like a middleweight. fighting heavyweights. >> And And you know you know what was.

unfair about Ali because you know all. the boxers back then had chins. So you. feel like somebody with Ali style would. not have a chin, but he had just as good. as chin as anybody else and he wouldn't. let you hit it. >> And then if you did get catch him and. get in a slugfest, you wouldn't knock. him out because this [ __ ] could. take a hit. >> One guy almost knocked him out and they. totally cheated to keep it from. happening. This guy. >> Frasier. >> No, no, no, no, no. This guy in England, God, what was his name? Um,

I can't believe I can't remember his. name right now because I was just I was. I was going to talk to you about Bob. Foster. >> Henry Cooper. That's right. Thank you. Henry Cooper had a killer left hook. >> Killer left hook and he caught Ali back. when he was Cash's Clay right on the. button and his just his legs went his. head rolled back and he slumped down. like he was done. >> So it was like at the bell they get him. in the corner. They cut his gloves.

>> Oh. to to change gloves. Like, watch. this left hook. >> [ __ ]. >> This guy Henry Cooper was tough as. nails, man. And he Look at that left. hook, man. It's nasty. Look at this. right here. Boom. >> Damn, >> bro. Ali was [ __ ]. >> He was [ __ ]. >> So, this is at the bell, right? So, they. get him in the corner. They gave him. smelling salts. They cut his gloves off. and changed his gloves. >> to give him some breathing room.

win. >> Did they cut the part out where they cut. his gloves? >> Yeah, it's really edited. >> I'm pretty sure that happened. I think. that was an Angelo Dundee trick. >> Angelo Dundee, man. What a what a guy. What a corner. >> He might have been the greatest quarter. of all time. >> Yeah. >> Think about the the one with Sugar Ray. Leonard and Tommy Hearns. You're blowing. it, kid. You ever seen him say that to. me? >> He says and Sugar runs out and stops him. in the next round. >> Yeah. >> And that and that was a Hearn's fight. That was That was Sugar Ray versus who?

>> Hearns. >> Hearns. >> Yeah, >> I remember all those fights. I remember. the Hearns Haggler fight. That second. round was like the greatest round was. the greatest round. >> Was it the first round was was the war? >> Yep. The first round right out of the. bat. >> Yeah. >> Okay. No evidence Muhammad Ali had his. gloves changed midfight to get extra. time to recover. Rather, it's an urban. legend from his fight with Henry Cooper. in 1963. Ali's trainer, Angelo Dundee, did bling bring Ali's torn glove to the. referee's attention, but the controversy.

only extended the round break by a few. seconds, and Ali went on to win the. fight. Okay, so there was a torn glove, but they didn't let him change the. gloves. He showed a torn glove, and it. just happened to be torn right after the. knockdown. And this is an urban legend. Respectfully, >> right? >> Uh the myth is that he had intentionally. cut the glove. Respectfully, he probably. did, >> right? >> Because if the glove all of a sudden was. torn right after a knockdown, how many. other times in his career has he had a.

torn glove where the fighter was. winning? >> Yeah. >> Zero times. >> How do you tear your glove when you're. getting hit? >> If he if he had if he was in Henry. Cooper's corner and he found that cut, do you think he would tell the referee? >> No. >> He wouldn't say a [ __ ] thing. Like, it's [ __ ]. >> Mhm. >> But. >> I get it. >> He bought some time. >> Smart move. And one second in boxing. >> is a huge difference. >> Oh, look at that face. >> Wow. >> That face when he busted him up. I think. he stopped him by cut. >> if I remembered correctly.

>> I used to watch all these old fights, but it's so long I can't remember the. full details. Like I knew who you were. talking about. >> before you could remember his name. >> Yeah, I forgot his name. >> cuz I was thinking of Bob Foster cuz I. watched this whole piece on Bob Foster. last night. People forgot about him. >> And Bob Fost Foster again. He was the. light heavyweight champion when Ali was. the heavyweight champion. >> and he I believe he tried I know he. fought Ali at least once. He tried to go. up to to heavyweight. It just didn't. carry over.

>> Mhm. >> Because he was a weird weirdly shaped. guy. Like he was tall but he was like he. was not muscular at all. But he. >> What's he look like? >> Like to see. >> here we give me a Bob Foster KO. highlights. I got on a a whole rabbit. hole the other night because I watched. this one video about where they were. talking about Bob Foster and about how. deceptive his punching power was and. then I'm like, "Oh my god, I forgot.". And then I went down a Bob Foster rabbit. hole and it's also the confidence in.

this video. He was talking about take me. one or two rounds and I'm going just. knock him out. >> Is he the black guy or the white guy? >> The black guy. >> Bro, Foster had Look at this, bro. Bro, this is this is like a mother. beating a child, >> bro. He was He's had tremendous power, man. Like the whip in his punches is. like very similar in a lot of ways to. Tommy Hearns, but he's a lot bigger, you. know? He's a he's 175 pounder, but it's. that whip to the punches that Foster.

had. >> Like, look at that turn. Like, the. amount of torque that he gets when he. throws these punches. And Bob Foster, he. [ __ ] flatlined a lot of dudes, man. He took a lot of dudes out of this. dimension. Boom. Look at that left hook. Oh, >> see the arms flail. >> Yeah. >> Like, you know, the arms let me know. your legs are going. >> Yeah. Foster [ __ ] a lot of guys up. >> Oh, he had some movement, too. >> He did. He just wasn't quite big enough. to beat Ali. You know, Ali was uh a. solid 35 40 lbs heavier than him. That's.

just too much. Yeah, he's tall enough but not. >> Oh, that's him versus Cory at. heavyweight. >> It just shows you how many guys Cory. fought. [ __ ]. >> Yeah, these guys didn't stop until they. died. >> No. No. Well, Cory died because of it. much earlier. Like that was It doesn't. look like Cory. >> That's what it says. >> That's what it says. >> He's catching him with the left. >> Okay. >> Oh [ __ ].

>> He just went to sleep. Foster versus. Dick Tiger. This is a good one because. he said about Dick Tiger, like Dick. Tiger was a champion at the time, I. believe. And he said about Dick Tiger, it take me one or two rounds to hit him. and then I'm gonna knock him out. Boom. He just he had this power that was just. undeniable, man. There's some dudes who. just Look at that. The way he throws it. like everybody who like is a young boxer. learning learn from this guy. Like the. whip. >> This is unfair, too. The the the reach.

>> the reach is ridiculous. Yeah. Say that. to all of Mike Tyson's opponents who got. flat lines. >> I know. But that's why I like Mike. Tyson. Like. >> wasn't even 6 feet tall. >> It wasn't even 6 feet tall. And he can. get inside. >> Oh my god. Like a tornado. >> Bang. >> And sometimes he'd stay real down low. >> and you'll be throwing above his head. and then he'd come up with it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, he he would have fun. He was playing. with his food back in those days, you. know. >> He was he was having fun with guys. He.

was having fun. It was a different thing. that we had never seen a heavyweight. move like that before. Right. So, there. was Ali. Never seen a heavyweight so. agile, so so fluid on his feet. He. looked like a better version of Sugar. Ray Robinson at heavyweight, if you. could believe it, >> right? >> Which is crazy. But also, he wasn't. fighting the caliber of fighters. Well, I guess he was as when he became a. champ. The second time around he. definitely did when he got into like Joe. Frasier and Foreman and. >> but I always wondered man if he didn't.

miss those three years. I don't know if. any of those dudes could have touched. him, >> right? >> If he kept that up like what he was. versus Cleveland Big Cat Williams and. you add three more years because I think. Frasier became the champ after he. retired. >> Mhm. >> I just don't I don't think they beat. that version of Ali and we don't get the. Jerry Corey version if this Ali is not. sitting on the couch for three years. But it also saved the brain damage for. way later than it would. >> Maybe it didn't because maybe he wasn't.

agile anymore, so he took more brain. damage. >> So he took more more blows when he came. back. >> He had to rely on his chin, you know, and he had a tremendous chin. >> But it's just like I always as a person. who sees guys in their prime because I. think. >> what year was Ali when they took his. license away? What how old was he? I want to say he was 27. and. >> comes back at 30. >> He comes back at 30, >> which is near quitting age. >> for a lot of fighters. >> For fighters, yeah, a lot.

>> It gets near there. It gets near. quitting time. Three years is the thing. is like he wasn't a guy that was like a. Bernard Hopkins who just stayed in the. gym, kept running every day. He wasn't. that guy. And he was always involved in. a lot of political things because he was. an activist. He was. >> he was a very outspoken anti-war. activist and they took away his. livelihood because of it. Burnout. Hatkins had the most. >> What Jamie? >> 25. >> He was 25 when he retired when when they. took it his license. He. >> was born in 42. That happened in ' 67. >> and he came back at 28.

>> Yeah, I guess 67. Refuses to be inducted. into the army. Immediately stripped of. his title. >> I think Cleveland Big Cat Williams is. the last fight that he has before they. strip him of his title because they. wanted him to fight in Vietnam, which is. just crazy. >> 74. No. >> So fight of the centuries. So he comes. out in 70 against Cory. So it's almost. four years, right? >> April 2867 to October. Three and months.

Three and a few months. >> Okay. Three years in a few months. So 67. and from the time he fights Cleveland. Big Cat Williams, that was 66. >> So those those are prime years, you. know. Yeah. And but the the big thing is. not training during those years. >> The layoff is crazy. >> That's the big thing. >> I know how I feel after not doing. standup for one week. >> Yeah. But you don't know what it's like. to have your muscles deteriorate. Like. your muscles will go away,

>> right? >> And your reflexes and everything. All of. it will go away. >> All the twitching of everything. >> It might take years to build it back. And in his case, he never really did. >> He never built it back to the Cleveland. levels. Like he didn't come out and just. move around like that. >> at 30. He just didn't. Right. It was. different. >> That was different. And it was a heavier. ship to move around to because he was. heavier. >> Y you get heavier when you after 30. >> Also, you're going through training. camps and you're not in shape in the.

beginning. >> Mhm. >> Like that's a different thing. Like I. don't know how much time he had to. prepare for Jerry Corey, but I mean I. would imagine it's not more than a few. months. >> So you could imagine you're you're. saying, "Hey Muhammad, we got to get. ready." Like you're and he's like, "I'll. be ready. I was born ready. Why are you. telling. >> joking around and [ __ ] Come on, Mohamd. Take the serious. Yeah. Ready. >> Ready. I'm ready right now. Sucker. Put. on those gloves. Cuz he would talk [ __ ]. to people and you couldn't say anything. to. So if you were managing him or if. you were training him like good luck. getting a word in. He's the greatest of. all time. I am the greatest.

>> He'll have you training. >> I remember he was talking to uh Howard. Kosell and Howard Kosell said, "You. sound very truckulent, champ." He goes, "Whatever truckulent means, if it's. good, I'm that. >> I'm it." Yeah. I'm that. Yeah. Yeah. He said it with with zero hesitation. >> I remember one time he said, "I'm so. fast I'll turn off the light and get. into bed before it gets dark.". >> Yeah. >> Nobody had been like that. Nobody Nobody. talked like that. Nobody moved like. that. He was a totally different thing.

>> He was standup comedy funny. >> Yep. >> He was stand like when I watch his old. videos like like normally you just watch. a fight a fight. >> Yeah. I could watch a Muhammad Ali. talking compilation. >> Yes, definitely. >> That's how [ __ ] entertaining this. [ __ ] was. >> Yeah, he was so entertaining. He was so. entertaining. And he because of his. refusal to fight in the Vietnam War, he. represented a generation. >> Yeah. >> He represented young people that were. like, "Yeah, this is [ __ ] Like, what. are we doing?". >> Yeah. >> You know, and people a lot of people.

were mad at him, called him a traitor, but in the end, they all kind of. realized like, "Oh, he was right. He was. right.". >> History. They realized they were on the. wrong side of history. >> Yeah. People don't know back then. because the only war they had remembered. before that I mean there was Korea but. really people remembered World War II, >> right? >> World War II, we had to fight the bad. guys. We did our thing. We stood up for. our country and that's why we got the. greatest country in the world right now. And if you're not going to do your part, man, [ __ ] you. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And then during the Vietnam War, everyone's like, "Oh, wait a minute.

>> Something's wrong. >> This might be a drug running operation. Like we we might be like fighting in the. jungle because someone wants to control. drugs. >> Is that what Vietnam war was? Drug a. drug thing. >> I believe there's a lot of factors, but. I believe one of the major factors was. control of the opium trade. >> That is wild. >> Well, I I mean I want to say that about. Afghanistan as well. >> Yeah. because the production of heroin. out of Afghanistan ramped up after we. were there and we were guarding the.

poppy fields. >> and it was for the opiate crisis that. they put in the oxycottton here. >> Exactly. >> For the same Yeah. >> I mean it's the same it's the same. thing. It's like it's all just heroin. It was at one point in time I think it. was 90 something% of the world's. >> heroin supply was coming out of. Afghanistan. >> [ __ ]. >> And that's why we were over there. We. were over there guarding those fields. I. say we, not me, not you. You, we weren't. there, >> but Americans were. And Haraldo Rivera. [ __ ] went over there to visit them.

and talked to a guy, this military guy. who explained why they have to guard the. poppy fields. >> And what did the guy say? >> He was like basically saying, you know, we have to protect these people from. al-Qaeda. Like, listen, >> al-Qaeda we started. >> Do you know how gaslighty that is? Just. think of how gaslighty that is. We have. to protect these kind and humble heroin. growers. We have to protect them from. these other people who are just. terrorists who live here and we're here.

We invaded this place to keep these. people from stopping these people from. selling heroin. And we're the good guys. Like what? And especially the word. al-Qaeda when I watched was it Rambo. three which was the Rambo in Afghanistan. and then you watch the credits and thank. you for the brave fighters of Al Qaeda. >> Is that really in there? >> It's in the credits bro. >> Wow. >> It's in the credits because he when. Rambo 3 was him helping.

Afghanistan fight the Russians. >> That's right. >> So then we were funding al-Qaeda. You. ever seen the movie Charlie Wilson's. War? >> No. >> You haven't seen Charlie Wilson's War? I. >> haven't. >> Frank Tom Hanks and he was a he's a. congressman or senator that figured out. a way to funnel money. He knew Congress. wasn't going to give like like you know. like we give we vote to have a package. to go to Israel. Mhm. >> So he they weren't going to vote to give. a package to like help us fight or.

give money and weapons to al Qaeda to. fight the Russians in during their war. So then he figured out a way how to get. funding and circumvent it to al Qaeda so. that they could fight the Russians cuz. it's all a part of the Cold War. Right. >> Right. Right. Right. And like like in. Vietnam, Russia fought us but through. the Vietkong. >> and in Afghanistan, we fought them back.

through. the al-Qaeda. >> And that's what's going on in Ukraine. right now, too. >> So what's what's the deal with the. Ukraine? Cuz I kind of know what's going. on, but I'm kind of confused. >> Well, we fund it, you know. we along. with other European countries fund it, you know, and it's it's kind of the same. thing. It's in in similar ways, but this. is what what they really want control. over is the resources. There's.

extraordinary amount. It's soil, but the. real thing is the amount of um minerals, >> rare earth minerals. >> for the computer stuff and the phone. stuff. Yeah, >> there's they're they're sitting on an. enormous enormous bounty of rare earth. minerals. They also have natural gas. >> So, this was part of the um the the real. controversy with why Hunter Biden was. running Berisma, which is a Ukrainian. energy company. Like, why why is he.

doing that? What what is the deal there? Well, it's like what they were trying to. do is control energy and control the the. market. >> for that. and he had access through his. dad to some, you know, go over there, got a nice cussy job. >> But there's enormous resources in that. country, >> right? >> And the the the war is partly over that, right? Partly over we crossed NATO. NATO. crossed the line that they weren't. supposed to cross.

>> Like we're not supposed to to arm them. and have them nuclear weapons right next. to Russia. >> Exactly. It's not we obviously, but we. are a part of NATO and NATO promised at. the end of the Soviet Union that they. wouldn't move the arms closer to Russia. and they just kept doing it, >> right? >> And um you know the idea is that if they. wouldn't do that, Putin would probably. take over everything. He'd go through. Poland. Like you need NATO. So I see. both arguments. I do. And obviously the. person who invaded a country is the the.

>> the bad guy. >> Yeah. It's the bad guy. That's the bad. guy. He went into a country and hundreds. of thousands of people are dead now. because of it, >> right? >> But you don't know what the real. motivations are of war are until like. the fog of war settles and the dust. settles and the war is over. Then 10. years later, somebody writes a book and. you go, "Oh god, >> it was that, >> right?". >> Like you guys just wanted money. You. guys just wanted to control oil. You. guys just wanted to make sure they. stayed on the US dollar. You guys just. wanted to do that. Like you were.

pretending that there was this. >> this. Look, look, the the Vietnam War is a. perfect example. The Gulf of Tonkan. incident. >> with that boat. >> Yeah. They made up an attack, >> right? >> And then everybody's like, "Oh my god, they attacked us. They [ __ ] around and. now they're going to find out. We're. going to send our boys.". >> And how many hundreds of thousands of. people died? And how many hundreds of. thousands more lives were ruined. forever? How many guys came back. >> just with the horrific memories that.

they could never shake out of their. head. They wake up in the middle of the. night screaming. >> Yeah. >> They see people die. They see their. friends die. They maybe have to kill. people. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Trauma. >> Trauma. And then Muhammad Ali said, "Fuck you.". >> Yeah. >> And everybody was like, "Oh my god, he. is he's a traitor. You you are not. supporting America." And like half the. country, just like you know anybody. today, like half the country's mad at. you and half the country loves you, >> right? >> And after a while became the whole.

country loved him. >> They all realized he was right. >> Is there ever going to be a point where. there'll be one person that the whole. country loves? >> Jesus. >> Like like did it felt like it was like. that. >> back in the day like. >> Yeah. There were people. >> there were some people like that. But. now. >> that was before social media. >> Yeah. Because even people like that back. in the day where the whole country loved. on television and in the newspapers in. in real life, there was always some guy. at the gas station talking [ __ ] about. that guy. You know, there was always.

someone at the gym talking [ __ ] about. that guy. People always talk [ __ ] They. just didn't have a public forum. >> But if somebody talk [ __ ] about that guy. >> Mhm. >> you know, the people he's talking that. [ __ ] to, they be like, "The [ __ ] is. wrong with you?". >> Right. >> This is a great guy, >> right? That's Larry Bird, son of a. [ __ ]. >> Yeah. How How dare you? >> How dare you? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Just cuz he beat you in high. school, let it go. >> They're like encouraging it, >> right? >> You know, they want it. They want more. of it. >> Uh yeah. >> [ __ ] weird, man. It's uh social. media, you know, it's given the voices.

to people that maybe really didn't earn. a voice. Not that it's bad. I don't. think it's bad. >> I don't think it's bad either. >> I think it's good. And I think even. Yeah. Even the chaos of that these. people that shouldn't get all that. attention getting attention, it's like. bad for them. It's bad for everybody. But it's better net. Like if you look at. like the overall amount of good it does, it's way better than it is bad. But it's. just a new thing that everybody has to. deal with. And one of the things is the. impulse to be a [ __ ]. >> right? But also like I just as a black.

person growing up and watching the news, right, it it always felt slanted. >> and and against us anyway. And then some. either Neil Brennan said this or Chris. Rock said this to Neil Brennan like a. lot of white people are finding out now. that [ __ ] that black people already. knew, >> you know, about like not trusting the. cops all the time or the FBI all the. time or or pharmaceutical drug.

>> pharmaceutical drug companies all the. time or Yeah. They will drop a shipment. of drugs off and guns off in your. neighborhood. Yeah. >> And [ __ ] it up and ruin it. >> on purpose. >> on purpose. Because [ __ ] they they. guarding Poppy Fields. >> on another continent. Where do you think. that [ __ ] is going to go? >> You know, I've had that dude Freeway. Ricky Ross on a bunch of times. >> A bunch of times. Right. >> And he didn't even know who he was. selling coke for. He was selling coke. for the United States government and had. no idea. >> And he was. >> they were letting him.

>> And he was doing it for the Iran Contra. >> Uhhuh. >> Yeah. It was it was uh the cont was. Yeah. Iran Contra, but it was they were. funding the Contras versus the. Sandinistas in Nicaragua. He didn't even know. >> I don't know which side we were funding, but we were funding one of them. Which. one? >> The anti the anti-communist side we were. funding. >> Hilarious. >> The gorillas who were fighting against. the communist. >> government. Maybe. >> There is a bunch of those dudes that are. just playing war games. They're playing. war games and they get to do it back in.

the 80s. Back then they got to do it. without any oversight, right? >> They just played war games and they lied. >> and then you know you get. >> they're like just tell them this. >> Yeah. They just I remember uh Jimmy. Tingle, very funny Boston comedian. He. had a joke about Ronald Reagan because. they brought Ronald Reagan into trial. and they said, "Did you ever sell arms. to Iran?" He's like, "I don't recall.". And he goes, "Mr. President," he goes, "Next time you sell arms to people who. hate us, jot it down." He goes, "Make a.

note. Put it on the refrigerator.". >> It's hilarious. But that's where, you know, Reagan. literally was falling apart at that time. though. Like people didn't believe it. They're like, "Come on, he can't. remember." But and then it got. >> You think that was just his defense? Because. >> I do think it was his defense. >> Then you're not you're not perjuring. yourself. >> CIA, it was a contress. Okay. The CIA. recruited, funded, and trained the. Contress, which included remnants of. Samoza's National Guard. I I think he. was playing it off, but then I don't.

know because he did get dementia. He did. get dementia. >> He got Alzheimer's real bad at the end. of his life. He couldn't remember [ __ ]. >> But it was I feel like he got the. Alzheimer's like 20 years later. I could. be wrong. I don't remember years no. more. >> But. >> I don't remember either honestly. I feel. it. >> I feel like towards the end though, his. cognitive function was declining. >> Definitely. >> But like that's how it goes with guys in. their 70s, right? >> Especially if they don't take vitamins, you know? >> And and if you're Reagan, do you want to. remember everything that you did?

>> Definitely not. So. >> yeah, definitely not. >> Alzheimer's is almost like a blessing. >> Yeah. All those guys like George W. Like. you don't want to remember nothing. You. don't want to remember the Iraq war. We. tricked people into going to Iraq. because we got attacked on 9/11 by. someone who was funded by the Saudis. Like what? What? What? Why are we in. Iraq? Shut up. >> Yeah. I feel. >> just went over there. >> I feel angry every time I think about. that one because I was duped. Like I. wanted war. I was like we got to go.

They got weapons of mass destruction. We. got to go stop them. Like like their. thing that they ran on the news worked. on me. >> and like I never questioned it. >> Yeah. I didn't question it either. initially. >> Yeah. >> Um but. I did I did have a bit about it. >> Yeah. >> Where I was like. there was like the only way for people. to find out how dumb people are. Like. the people that run the world, they. don't know you. They don't get to hang. out with you. They don't know exactly. how dumb you are. They all went to Ivy.

League schools. How The only way to find. out how dumb people are is put a dumb. guy in as president and then see if. everybody freaks out. And then, you. know, the bit was like after he tricked. people into going into Iraq and starting. the war and then he got reelected. >> I go I go, he won again. He won again. Like the people that run the world are. like, wow. And then someone in the back. of the room goes, >> I think we can go dumber.

And he was right. He was right. They. went dumber. And we all we all felt. duped by that one, you know. We all felt. duped by a bunch of different ones. One. was the financial collapse when the. housing market collapsed and then the. the the guys started getting bonuses. They have to get their bonuses. The CEOs. have to get their bonuses. Like what? >> Wait a minute. You guys, your bank. collapsed and you get a bonus. what are we doing? And it's our money. So, you're taking our money and you're.

you're helping save these these banks. >> and then the CEOs get bonuses because if. we don't give them a bonus, they'll. leave and go somewhere else. Like, what. is this logic? >> Right. The thing I don't understand. about 2008 is where did the money go? >> Exactly. >> Where? So, listen. So, these bunch of. people had the money, >> right? >> Then they lost it. But when they lost. it, it didn't get burned. Somebody else. got the money. >> Exactly. >> So then why was everybody broke? Like. >> cuz somebody else got rich.

>> Somebody else got rich. But what were. they doing with the money? Don't they do. Why did nobody have money? >> See, this is where you and I are regular. people and we're not financially minded. at all. >> Not at all. >> Right. So we're not the kind of devious. market people that would see an. opportunity and take advantage of it. Right. So what was the biggest transfer. of wealth in modern history? >> Don't they say that's kind of happening. now? >> Co. >> Co. Okay.

>> Co. biggest transfer of wealth ever. >> Elaborate on that for me. >> So what happened was all these mom and. pop places got shuttered, right? You. can't go there. You don't have a It's. We're in a pandemic. Okay? You can only. go to Target during a pandemic. You can. only go to McDonald's during a pandemic. You can only go to Wendy's during a. pandemic. You can't go there. It's a. pandemic. You can't have your comedy. club open. It's a pandemic. You can't. have this. These restaurants, are you. kidding me? That's dangerous. Outdoor.

dining. What about the optics? Shut it. down. And so where's all that money go? Well, that money goes to all the other. businesses that can stay open, the major. chains. >> Walmart, Target, all these things. flourish. the stocks change, >> right? >> 70% plus of all LA restaurants went. under. People lost millions of dollars. Where'd that money go? >> It got legally siphoned into other. people's businesses that were allowed to. stay open, >> right? And also with the stimulus, like.

a lot of big companies got Yes. >> huge stimulus checks. Like we got some. dollars here and there, but they got. like. >> they got a lot of dollars. Hey, >> there's been a bunch of those transfers. of wealth where you you only look if you. have to look at it like a psychopath, like a complete sociopath who really. understands how the system works. And if. they'll explain it to you, you go, "Oh, so that's what they did." Yeah, that's. what they did. They told you you had to. stay home. They told you how to do this. And why did they extend it for so long.

to crush the economy? Cuz it didn't. crush the economy for them, >> right? It boosted their the more they. could keep you from spending money at. those places, the more you had to spend. money. >> at Amazon, at this at that anything. that's open. That's all they closed the. market down. >> So, let me ask you a question like how. much and I had this question in my head. 20 years ago because I noticed a lot of. greed, >> right? >> And I was like 20 years ago, I was like, how much people money do the people that. got money want? And then now I still.

have that same question because I feel. like those people should have had enough. 20 years ago when I asked. >> to be like, >> "All right, let me just chill." It's. probably a different set of people who. are like they were 20 years ago, but. like how much money do people want? And. if you get all the money and nobody has. anything, do you really have money? Cuz. how are you going to get more money from. people that don't have no money? Because. you took it all. >> Well, no one's going to get that rich. That's sort of a that's a funny way of.

looking at it. But the the there's. there's different kinds of people that. make money, right? There's kinds of. people that make money because they make. a lot of things. That's like Elon Musk. That's his money, right? >> And then there's kinds of people that. make money that are only trying to make. money. That's all they're trying to do. They're trying to do deals. They're. trying to do this. They're trying to do. that. >> But the whole idea. >> is just to make money. Elon's thing is. to make things, >> right? >> Like he's there to make Starlink. He's. there to give internet access to people. all over the world. He's there to make.

electric cars. He's there to make. electric roofs. He's there to make. spaceships that can go up and rescue. people and bring them back down and. land. He's he's making things. And. because of making things, he's the. richest guy on earth, >> right? >> By the way, publicly that's different. than the real world, >> right? >> Like the real world it might be Putin. It might be some some king in the Middle. East. >> Federal Reserve who runs that. Yeah. Well, that's different too because it's.

not like individuals, but yeah, it's a. good point. But. >> but the actual one richest person in the. world in America at least the way we. Forbes 500 guy is the guy who makes the. most stuff. It's Elon, >> right? >> You know, and then you have the guys. that are just trying to make money. That's a different kind of cat. >> So those guys who are just trying to. make money, those are the weird ones cuz. they're just a number people. They're. number people. is if they're thinking. about numbers all the time, then they. don't give a [ __ ] about you. They're. just trying to make more numbers and.

that you get more and more socio. sociopathic as you go down that road, >> right? But so my question is, is there. an equation, right, to prove that. that that like our brains can't do it, but could somebody into money? Is there. an equation that they could come up with. to prove that you could make more money. from peace than war? >> Yes, for sure. Um, and the problem is. pushing this equation.

>> because um it's the easiest way to do. it. The easiest way to do it is war. because you trick people into doing it. and you can control an entire country. and you know it's like you're not going. to make the same am It's like there's. groups of people that will make the most. amount of money from war. >> for sure military defense contractors. >> They make the most amount from a war. >> That is their business. Like and you. can't fault them. That's what they do. You need them because you need you need. them. >> and they have a stronghold already that.

they're not going to give up. They're. like a pitbull that wants to convince. you to let it off the leash. Let me off. the leash, Dad. Come on. That the [ __ ]. you see this? See this [ __ ] German. Shepherd talking [ __ ] Talking [ __ ]. bro. This is over in 5 seconds. >> Every time we walk by here, they barking. and yapping. Let's Let's shut this down. >> Their business is to make [ __ ] And not. only just make [ __ ] make better [ __ ]. all the time. And I was thinking that. the other day. I was like, if they're. always making new jets, like what do. they do with the old jets? They kind of. have to blow them up. They kind of have.

to like go launch some missiles. They. have these extra missiles from like that. they never killed anybody with. They're. just sitting around. They're going to go. bad. We got to use them. >> Yeah. With expiration dates on them. >> That's their businessman. It's like that. Nicholas Cage movie. Was it Nicholas. Cage movie about a guy who sold arms? >> Lord of War. >> That's right. >> Oh yeah. Lord of War. >> If you're selling weapons, you want a. war, you know? And those are the guys. that are getting the giganto contracts. And then some guy comes in and he's. like, "I pledge to double defense.

spending and make America stronger than. it's ever been." And yeah. And those. guys are running to the stock market. Buy by buy Rathon. By buying, >> but we as people, why are we buying. this? Cuz we know the deal. >> We do know the deal, but we're only. learning the deal now, right? >> Right. Like as a culture, I think it's. only been like 10 years where people are. like, "Wait, wait, what the [ __ ] is. going on?" I think 10 years ago most. people think Lee Harvey Oswald killed. JFK. >> Even I had my doubts and I'm like the. most gullible [ __ ] in the world.

>> You had your doubts? Good. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I I I knew there was something up with. the story a long time ago cuz I read a. book. But if you're the average person. 20 years ago, you're not going to buy. any of these wacky conspiracy theories. >> You were the crazy person. People. stopped talking to you. You got exiled. from society. >> Exactly. Now, someone that you're close. with sends you a video. >> and you just watch this and you're like, "What?". >> Yeah. >> Oh my god, they killed Kennedy. Oh my. god. >> And you watch, you're like, "What?" And.

some guy comes on a podcast, you're. like, "Oh my god, they framed Nixon.". What? Oh my god. Did I ever tell you. what Bill Murray said? >> No. >> Bill Murray came in here and um the same. guy, Bob Woodward, who was a part of. Woodward and Bernstein that took down. Nixon. Mhm. >> He um wrote a book on John Belalushi. >> and John Belalushi who was one of Bill. Murray's best friends. And so Bill said. he read the first five pages and he was. like, "Oh my god, they framed Nixon.". >> Oh, what? >> So the mo the book was so full of [ __ ].

It was so made up. Like it was this. madeup character of John Belalushi who. he was with all the time, right? >> Like he didn't know John Belalushi. John. Belalushi died of a drug overdose. So he. fabricated this crazy wild thing and. called it Wired. And he said, he read. five pages of it. He's like, "Oh my god, they framed Nixon.". >> Damn. >> Isn't that crazy? >> One one of the most disgraced presidents. of all time framed. So, was he a good. guy? >> Cuz he got rid of the gold standard. >> He was not a good guy. Listen, this is. this this is not a binary thing. Nixon. was not a good guy. Nixon also passed.

that sweeping psychedelics act that made. everything illegal. And he did that. specifically to target the anti-war. movement and the civil rights movement. Specifically, they wanted to take those. people who were involved in the anti-war. movement and the civil rights movement. They want to put them in jail, right? >> And the best way to do it, they were all. smoking grass. They were all eating. mushrooms. They were all doing LSD. Just. make all that stuff super illegal and. then bust them. And that's what they. did. And they they changed the entire. the direction of the culture. Like what.

Nixon did was catastrophic to human. civilization. because who knows where we would be as a. culture if psychedelics were legal this. entire time from 1970 forward. >> So should we thank Bob Woodward or. >> No, because we don't know the fact that. he did. >> Bob Woodward was an intelligence agency. agency guy. He was um he was a naval. intelligence officer and his first. project as a reporter was Watergate.

That's crazy. Why would they give that. to a guy where it's his first project? His first major story is the biggest. story in the history of the world and he. just happens to be a naval intelligence. agent. >> What? There's like senior reporters. There's. these people that are like beating the. street. They're they're out there every. day. >> Yeah. They must have been. >> And the guys who broke into Watergate, they were all FBI. So here's the thing. Nixon didn't have knowledge of it, but.

then they brought it to Nixon and he. covered it up and then they're like, "Oh, gotcha." And that's how they got. rid of him. >> And they also got rid of Spiro Agnu, who. was his vice president. They got him on. corruption charges, kicked him out, put. in Gerald Ford. Gerald Ford was in the. Warren Commission. >> Oh. >> And then one of the things about Nixon. is Nixon couldn't shut the [ __ ] up about. knowing who killed Kennedy and trying to. get to the bottom of it. >> Why? Why did Nixon want to get to the. bottom of. >> he was worried they were gonna kill him. because he knew Bobby Kennedy because he.

he lost to Kenny. >> He lost to Kennedy. So I figured he. didn't like John Kennedy. Yeah. >> He lost to JFK in a previous election, right? >> And you know he knew that guy like and. and he knew who killed him. >> and he started talking about it and the. problem with talking about it is they're. like get rid of him. I never know. Do. you know he was like he won at the time? It was the He was the most popular. president of all time. Like he won with. the most amount of votes of anybody.

ever. >> And we look at him like a crook, >> right? >> He was a And by the way, probably was. At the very least, he did cover up that. crime. He didn't say what they did. What? Don't No, I'm going to we're going. to make a press conference and we're. going to [ __ ] find who did it and. we're going to come clean. Instead, he. tried to cover it up. >> But to me, like when I think about. Watergate, from what I remember of it, was it really that big of a deal? Like. it's so sensationalized. What what what. was the real crime? Like what was the. Somebody broke in somewhere? >> And they installed recording equipment.

so they could listen in on people. >> And who are they listening in? >> The Democratic party. So the Republicans. are listening to the Democrats. >> Okay. >> As they're getting ready to campaign. against them. >> It's kind of illegal. >> It's it's definitely illegal, >> but it's not that big of a deal because. they're doing that to you right now, >> right? Like if you have your phone and. you're you know and you're you know me. if you know me your phone is bugged like. just. >> [ __ ]. >> good luck all those dick pics you sent. out those are all out in the ether son.

>> and you know that that is something that. we had to find out from Edward Snowden. Okay. You know, when when when that was. exposed and we learned like, oh god, there's a mass surveillance program. that's secret that's been around forever. and the NSA has been running it. Like. all that what Nixon was doing was just a. version of that or not even Nixon doing, but what his what the the crime was was. a version of that. Listening in on your. opponents. They probably all listen to.

each other now, right? >> They probably all hack into each other's. email. probably hire hackers to hacking. each other's phones and hacking each. other's emails and [ __ ] and. >> you know they do that man that's just. there it's a dirty game. >> I mean they they've turned that dirty. political game into like life like you. said if I know you my phone is hacked or. just the is it the NSA or is the. >> who knows there's probably organizations. that are new that we don't even know of. right. >> you know they like too many people know. about the CIA let's branch out.

>> like let's come up with something new. >> Yeah. And you need intelligence agencies. because the world is a dirty, dark place. filled with monsters. And a lot of them. we put there, but they're still. monsters. And like, look, I'm sorry. I'm. sorry. We got monsters, but we have to. [ __ ] have a wall and arm the turrets. Trump executive order quietly declared. that NASA is now a spy agency. What? >> How? >> That? >> Yeah, this happened a couple weeks ago. >> What? >> They spy from space? >> I don't know. The executive order came.

out and there just a redesation, I. think, of what NASA is officially. >> How what does that mean? >> I don't know. That's it. Could it could. be nonsense or it could mean something. important, you know? >> Is this a legit like uh. >> Did they change the name of it? >> No, it's still called NASA as far as I. know. But yeah, here. >> the order stipulates the agency will now. have as a primary function intelligence, counter intelligence, investigative or. national security work. What? Why would they do that? The major. departure for the agency was.

historically focused on space. exploration as well as space and earth. sciences over its 67year lifespan. Not. to mention that science and exploration. stuff. NASA Watch founder Keith Cowing, former scientist and agency at the. agency now closely follows its internal. and external politics wrote in a blog. post, there are signs that Trump's. intentions behind the order were at. least partially related to labor. concerns rather than spycraft. The order. also added that NAS NASA to the Federal.

Service Labor Management Relations. Statute, excluding it from collective. bargaining representation. Ooh. The news. that NASA will now be a spy agency was. seemingly overshadowed in the media by. the president's elimination of union. rights for thousands of federal. employees mere days before Labor Day, despite multiple lawsuits challenging. the change. I wonder if this is because. of private space companies because. they're so far ahead like Blue Origin is.

far ahead of what NASA does. Tesla, SpaceX is very far ahead. >> of anything that they do. >> It's almost like you leave it in the. hands of private companies. They could. do a better job of space anyway. >> and then turn NASA into this. >> No, I don't like why are you doing that? The last thing we need is more more. spies. >> But I feel like when you turn something. into a spy agency, it already was, >> right? >> And you're just like, let's just make it. official, >> right? They put satellites in overhead, >> right? And when we watch movies and they.

they're like looking at parts of other. countries to try to track down the. villain in the movie. Like they're using. they're they're giving away kind of. what's really happening. Oh, for sure. So, it is basically. a a spy, you know, organization. >> Well, if they're launching spy. satellites, they're a spy organization, right? Right. If NASA's launching. satellites, that's mostly what they're. launching. >> They're not putting anybody on other. planets anymore, allegedly. And they're.

not doing anything with the space. shuttle anymore. So, what are they. doing? >> Why Why not be a spy agency? You got to. stay open. >> Yeah. And they got to move around, boys. Can't be blockbuster forever. >> Yeah. Exactly. I think they took him. into a room and they said, "Listen, aliens are real. These spaceships we. have are all [ __ ] We have a couple. years left. Well, so, uh, use it for. something else. We're not we're not. going to travel to the moon anymore. Settle down." I mean, I'm just even the. alien [ __ ] like I believe in aliens.

I don't really got a lot of proof, but. the the denial of it is my proof, >> right? You know what I'm saying, right? The the the harsh denial and just like. how we were talking about back in the. day, if you didn't like the guy that. everybody liked, they ostracize you. If. you believe in aliens, they ostracize. you. >> Oh yeah. >> And everything from the It's like when. they used to teach us you got to drink. milk. Strengthens your bones. Then you. realize milk pass a certain amount of.

time. If you keep drinking it, it's bad. for you. Like everything that was bad. for you is good for you. And everything. that was good for you, we find out is. bad for you. also comes around again. because the real milk that you're. supposed to be drinking is raw milk, right? >> The reason why milk is not so good for. you, especially lowfat milk. It's cuz. there's not your body's like what is. this, >> right? >> Like you've you've boiled out all the. enzymes and killed all the living. organisms in it. It's just like this. weird protein liquid that I'm drinking. and makes you fart and you feel weird.

You drink real milk, like raw milk. I. had raw milk the other day and I drank. it. I was like, "Oh, this is what milk's. supposed to taste like. This is so much. better. >> It's way better. And it's illegal. Meanwhile, >> oxycontton. >> Why is it illegal? >> Glyphosate's legal. There's all sorts of. [ __ ] that's legal. Like Round Up. >> What the [ __ ] is glyphosate? >> Oh, Roundup. That's. >> all that that gives people cancer. >> Not just people cancer. Like anybody. close to a golf course.

>> There's there was some study about. getting Alzheimer's disease like that. You can get Alzheimer's much more likely. if you're within a mile or so of a golf. course. I'm glad to say it was Monsanto. before they sold the company to the. German company Bayer. >> Exactly. >> So then Monsanto. >> maybe Monsanto bought Bayer or. >> No, they sold Monsanto bought it, >> of course. >> And and. [ __ ] glyphosate poisoning. >> Yeah. Now I can't even remember the. order of the [ __ ] because of glyphosate. poisoning. >> That's nuts. Isn't that nuts?

>> It's wild. >> And they spray that [ __ ] on everything. Not only they spray that [ __ ] on. everything, they make certain plants. They were they're genetically designed. to be resistant to Roundup. So you could. spray more of it on the corn. And then. the thing is they spray it on it at the. end of the growing cycle to dry it out. apparently. That's like a lot of the. glyphosate you get in your system is. totally unnecessary. They just do it to. speed up the process. >> But that's my thing. It's like why? Like. this [ __ ] is so. >> [ __ ].

like. >> it's gross, right? >> Like sometimes, right? the money they. spend to lie, >> right? >> It's like you could have put that money. into making this [ __ ] healthy and good. >> Yeah. They can't though. They're they're. object The problem is corporations as as. a entity, the way it's been established, the way it's set up. Corporations as an. entity always want to make more money, >> right? >> And when you always want to make more. money, you figure out a way to make more. money. And if you can [ __ ] your way.

into making more money at the other. people's expense, that's what you do. And then you justify it and you have. lawyers and you [ __ ] keep people in. court and you drag it out and then you, you know, you accept a small percentage. of the profits that you pay off people. with because they got damaged by your. product and you keep moving cuz you're a. piece of [ __ ] and you don't care. >> But all say you you say you win. >> Say you make some money. >> Yeah. >> But you spent some money. You spent so. much money like with the lawsuits, >> keeping people in court.

>> You made more money spent though, don't. worry. But I feel like you made more. money than you than you spent. But the. money you spent could have been spent to. make a good healthy product. So you. wouldn't even have. >> depends on what you're talking about. Cuz like if you're saying the. pharmaceutical drug companies, no, the. the way to make the kind of money that. they like to make, you got to do some. shenanigans. You got to. >> some shenanigans. >> You got to do some shenanigans. You got. to mandate medications. And you got to. brainwash people into thinking that they.

should be on your side and that if and. then get them scared and say that if we. don't take this medication, it could be. literally the end of civilization. Like. whatever it is, like come up with. whatever [ __ ] people are going to. die, your kids are going to die, everyone's going to be born [ __ ]. You just find a way to get people to. believe and they'll just all climb on. board. They'll all climb on board. because a lot of people are cowards. And. that's that's what happens in this. world. And that's where it gets really. weird because then they have an enormous.

amount of money and enormous amount of. influence and then they start paying for. the ads on all the TV shows brought to. you by Fizer and Cooper. Exactly. That. makes them look legit. It makes the TV. show look legit. >> And you're watching publicly uh an evil. >> union. you're in and it's an evil union. between the truth and money where money. always wins and money will distort the. truth. >> It's. >> and they're allowed to do that. >> It's crazy because uh when I was growing.

up in New York, I got bamboozled once. for $100. >> Three card money. What was it? Uh, I was. at the Roosevelt Field Mall and I was. leaving and there was this dude and he. was holding a brand new box with a VCR. in it. And he's like trying to sell it. I was like, "How much?" And he's like, "$100.". And I was like, "Hey man, could I see it. first before I give you the $100?" He's.

like, "No, if I open rip away the. plastic and open this box and you don't. buy it, then the next person who comes. won't buy it because they won't it won't. be new." And I was like, "This is a. deal.". >> Was it a brick? >> Brick. I gave him the $100, got on the. bus. Didn't even have a car. Got on the. bus, drove home, >> open the brick. >> Open paper then brick. But that $100.

>> saved me so much. >> Yes. >> Because I always like I was just always. on a swivel looking out for like where. is the trick? And then sometimes I just. wouldn't do something if I didn't even. see the trick cuz I like n there's. there's something here. Yeah. But then. the Iraq war was like my the version of. the VCR like recently like that [ __ ]. They got you. >> that they got me. They they. >> were in New York though. You were in New. York when September 11th happened,

right? >> Yeah, I was in New York. >> Yeah, that's the thing. I was I saw it. on TV. >> Mhm. >> From the West Coast. But the people that. were there, I think it hit you a lot. even even harder. >> Yeah. >> I mean, it has to have hit you way. harder if I felt it when I went back. there, which was like a few months. later. I felt it. >> Yeah. >> It felt different. >> Yeah. That [ __ ] Like. I was I was living in LA, but I was. visiting. >> Oh. And I was so homesick for New York.

When I'd go back to New York back then, I'd stay a while, you know. And then the. night before the trade center went down, you know, Will Since. >> Mhm. >> he was living in Jersey City, and I used. to live in that apartment in Jersey. City. So then he's like, I'm going to. have some people over. So I took the. train and took the World Trade Center, the train, the PATH train. And it was. funny because back then when I was. living here and going to New York, I. said, "Let me look around like like I. miss this place. Let me There's so much.

[ __ ] that I didn't pay attention to. before." And so I was in the World Trade. Center the day before it went down like. like damn, I didn't even notice how. great this ceiling was and how much. detail they put into [ __ ] And I got on. the train, went to Will's crib, and then. I got a ride home that night. So next. morning, my sister woke me up and I'm. like watching the first tower with a. plane sticking out of it. >> Wow. >> And then I was like, I was yesterday.

there. And then I'm watching I was like, that ain't no another plane. I was like, did And then I almost hid. under the bed. How far away were you miles-wise? >> I was in Long Island. >> So. >> 50. >> 50 like an hour drive. >> Yeah. >> But. >> I just like I was like we're under. attack and you're like I don't know. where these attacks are coming from and. I don't normally feel like a coward but.

I was like something where they going to. attack next. >> Yeah. you know, so it was just that type. of a vibe. But. >> I'm worried that another one of those is. coming. >> And. the danger of that is obviously people. are going to die and obviously it it. could be horrific if something does. happen, if a terrorist attack does. happen. But the one thing, it'll wake people up. to like what the consequences of what we. do overseas. It means something here.

It's not just it's not just a video on. your phone. >> It it it does. >> People are dying. Yeah. >> And we are funding it and there's. >> there's real evil in the world. Evil is. a real thing. You could not believe in. the devil. You cannot believe in God. But evil actions are documented for out. for throughout history. And there's only. one way to combat evil. You know, you. you have to you have to have a strong.

force of good. But that that good has to. be really good. It has to actually be. good. And if it's pretending to be good. and it's actually participating in evil. and then you you find out about it, you're like, "Well, what the fuck?" This. is like in 1933, this guy Smemedley Butler, Major General. Smemedley Butler, he wrote a book called. War is a Racket in 1933. >> Damn, that's early. >> 1933. >> That's pretty early. And he broke down. how he thought he was over here to. protect people, but he was really there.

to make, you know, make it safe for. bankers or do whatever the [ __ ] he had. to do. Control oil and control whatever. minerals or gold or whatever the hell. they were doing. But he realized at the. end of his career, war is a racket. >> Yeah. >> And this is 33 men. >> They tried to get him to overthrow the. government, >> the American government. They tried to. get they tried to get him to participate. in a military coup against the. government. >> Who who was in charge back then? That. was that's. >> we just went over this the other day,

right? >> Jamie will pull it up. >> Um it was before our time. So this is I. think this happened prior to that. So 32. maybe something like that. >> Some Woodro Wilson [ __ ]. >> Some oldtimey [ __ ] They just, bro, they. just got away with things back then. And. now they have to hide it on layers and. layers and layers of special interest. groups and nos and money being flowed. around. And it's just it's all [ __ ].

And it's that [ __ ] is all over the. news. >> and everyone's confused and everyone. thinks it's the good guys versus the bad. guys. And the more people get scared, the more people start looking for white. hats and black hats, >> and confusion is the greatest weapon. >> So, here it is. 33 uh United States. Okay. The business plot called the Wall. Street push was uh the White House push. How do you is that push? >> Push. You said it right. Cuz it's a. German word cuz they they had pushes in.

Germany. >> So, it was a conspiracy in 33 in the. United States to overthrow the. government of the president of Franklin. D. Roosevelt and install Smemedley. Butler as dictator. A retired military. corpse major general testified under. oath that wealth wealthy businessmen. were plotting to create a fascist. veterans organization with him as its. leader and use it as a coup d'etat to. overthrow Roosevelt. So they almost. overthrew Roosevel. Imagine if he went. along with that. Mhm. >> In 34, Butler testified under oath. before the United States House of. Representatives special committee on.

unamerican activities uh on these. revelations. Although no one was. prosecuted, the Congress no one was. prosecuted. That's wild. >> Typical typical. >> even back then they were full [ __ ]. That's 90 years ago. The congressional. committee final report said there is no. question that these attempts were. discussed were planned and might have. been placed in execution when and if the. financial backers deemed it expedient. [ __ ] bro. These [ __ ]. have been dirty from the. >> from day one. I mean, I'm. >> dirty from day one.

>> Yeah, dirty from day one. Smmedley, God. bless him with that face. I wouldn't. trust him, but he was more trustworthy. than his face. He had Cash Patel eyes. [Laughter]. >> He probably needed glasses. They had. shitty glasses back there. >> Yeah, shitty glasses. He has cash for teller. Like cash like. do something to look more believable. >> when you're not telling the truth and. you're doing that. It's a problem. >> It's like. like. >> bro imagine that job like you say I'm.

going to uncover the truth and you get. into office and they're like this is. where your kids sleep. This is this is. where your mom lives. This is. >> ah Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's it's cold. >> It's cold. Like, no, you you you realize. how deep the the web runs. >> and how the web's going to be there. after you're gone, you're gonna be here. for four years, you know, while this guy. is the president and as soon as he's out. >> once we take over again. >> Yeah. The promise the promise of. something better from either party cuz. both of them ain't [ __ ].

>> Y. >> and you can only switch parties once. >> Yeah. >> Back and forth and back and forth. Nobody has. >> People have switched. They've gone from. Democrat to Republican. And I think Have. people gone from Republican to Democrat? I believe so. >> If you're a politician or just if you're. like a regular citizen, >> um, no. As a citizen, you can go back and. forth all you want. You can be a [ __ ]. complete schizophrenic and do it every. month. >> Hilarious. >> I mean, I don't even blame someone who.

who does that because. >> if you're a public person though, like. and you switch sides, you can only. switch sides once. >> if you're a politician. >> Yeah. But it's weird when people do. because they don't just switch sides. with like who they vote for. They switch. their whole ideology, >> right? >> And it's usually like what I see. recently. >> Mhm. >> It's from uh liberal to they get. redpilled and then they become a. conservative, >> but then they go all in and. conservative. Like all in they go hard. They like they might even go to the.

point why is why is gay marriage real? You know, they they might get crazy. >> Right. Right. And then um it's hard to. take them seriously because now you made. a 180 degree shift when you were in your. 40s. Like really you changed everything. you believe in. >> I think you have to prove so hard to. people that's been Republicans that. you're Republican that you go overboard. You got to go hard. >> You got to go hard. It's like. >> like I grew up in Long Island. There's. some hard pockets of hardcore. [ __ ] there. But they were. trying to be Brooklyn. But they're not.

in Brooklyn. So you ain't going to get. the respect of Brooklyn. You ain't going. to get the respect of Bronx. You Long. Island. So it's like we got to while out. down here. Like we got to go hard. And. so you they place like wine dance. Like. you you don't want to go to wine dance. >> Wine dance. >> Yeah. Wine wine dance. It just. >> I've never even heard of it. >> Yeah. It was it was it's tough down. there. Some rap some good rappers came. out of Wine Dance, too. >> Well, Wuang came out of Staten Island, which is crazy. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. Staten Island was wild, too, you. know. >> Yeah. It's just like you don't think of.

Staten Island as being the birthplace of. the greatest rap group of all time. >> True. But they had the credit of being a. burrow. Like Long Island as like Queens, Brooklyn, Bronx, Staten Island, but Long. Island's like, "What are you?". >> Suburbs. >> Yeah. You're the suburbs. >> Suburbs. >> They're like, "No, no, we we get down. We get down. >> They got good pizza.". >> They're like, "Shut up. >> It's not the same. >> You're nonbarrow.". >> It's not Yeah, it's true. It's. different, right? People think of it as. different. Is it considered a burrow.

officially? >> No, it's not. >> It's not. >> No. Like you grew up in Boston. Yep. >> Like. >> like were you in Boston? Boston. And if. you were, what about the parts outside. of Boston that felt left out of the. notoriety, >> right? >> Like like they weren't getting the. street cred. They had zero street cred, >> right? >> You know, >> Wuburn. >> Wuburn. Oh, that's hilarious. >> Wuburn Framingham. outside of Boston. Yeah. But but you. want to be like if they go somewhere.

>> Yeah. >> They would say from Boston. >> They say they're from Boston. >> 100%. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But then regular Boston people will get. mad at you. They'll call you out. Oh, you're from Wuburn. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> [ __ ] are you talking about? >> New York is like that, too. Like. >> I'm from New York. What part? >> What part? >> Yes. >> Westchester. >> Yeah. You're not going to pass the. second part of the where you from quiz. >> Exactly. >> And that's when they going to go in on. you. >> Unless you say right off the bat, you. know, I'm from Queens, >> right? >> Like, oh, okay. Yeah, >> that's real. >> There's no second question once you say. Queens.

>> Yeah, I'm from the Bronx. Oh, okay. >> Yeah, >> she's Jenny from the Bronx. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's always, you know what, if. you're trying to lie, >> just name, like you said, name the part. you're from, like where you from. But if. you say New York, >> right, >> that's when [ __ ] is suspect. >> Sarasota. Sarasota. New York. >> I'm from uh Albany. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You I used to think it was all one. place. >> Hilarious. living in Boston. I didn't. know. I was like, "What? So, what is the. difference in these burrows?" Like, "Oh, you want a 212 area code? You do?" Like,

why? >> Why do you care? I remember that was a. big thing about um LA. Like, that was. one of the things about Brody Stevens. 818 till I die. >> Like you when you lived in the valley, you had a 818 area code and people look. down at you. >> Yeah. >> People would make jokes about it. I. don't date people that aren't 310 or. 213. >> Yeah. I mean, that's why Brody was funny. because he stood on his He stood on 818. >> He stood on the valley.

>> He stood on the valley. Nobody. >> Nobody rep for the valley. >> You do like I do. I say I'm from New. York. I'm from LA. He didn't say I'm. from LA. He said, "I'm from Rita." He. named the town, named the the the the. area code of his phone number and like. stood on that [ __ ] like. >> for sure. >> You know, >> dude, I never even tried to live in LA. I was like, the moment I moved there, I. was like, uhuh, >> I'm not doing this. I got to get outside. of this thing. I got to get outside of. this thing and then go visit. >> I don't want to live in that thing. Cuz.

I had friends that like lived like in. West Hollywood. Like my friend Eddie. lived like in West Hollywood, like right. in the heat of everything. And I was. like, damn, dude. He like being like. right where everything is. I'm like, yeah, but this is also right where. everything is. Like how do you sleep? >> That's that's But it felt like that's. what you you moved to Hollywood to be in. Hollywood. Mhm. >> to become a part. That's that's that. that was the thinking. >> Yeah. >> So, even like I've known you, even you. saying you never lived there, that's a. shock to me. >> Yeah. My thinking was the opposite. My.

thing was like, I got to get outside of. this thing. >> Damn. >> When I found out I lived in Bell Canyon. for a while, and one of the things. >> Where the hell is that? It's. >> 30 miles outside of LA. That's where I. lived most of the time. I was in LA. >> Get the [ __ ] out. >> Yeah. Yeah. I bought a house out there. in 97. >> What? >> Yeah. Like when I first started making. money, I'm like, I got to get away from. all these people. >> [ __ ]. >> I wanted to be in like wilderness. First. of all, I have dogs. I needed a. backyard. So, I lived in Anino for a. little while. I rented a house in Anino,

but that was too close, too. >> And Cino was still too close. >> Yeah. I was like, I got to get outside. Valley. >> I got to get away. I got to get out. I. wanted to go to Thousand Oaks. I wanted. to go way out. I wanted to go where. regular people live. >> where you could just [ __ ] take a. breath. Like I never liked like the. parties, Hollywood parties. H I was like. >> every time I would go I feel like just. it just felt like I I wanted to run out. of there. Like get me out of here. Like. this is no one's relaxed. Everyone's.

this is fake and weird and. >> I was like I need I I need to live. outside of this thing and then go visit. it. >> And go visit. >> Yeah. >> I was in it. I lived in Hollywood but it. was in the cut. It was like Ivar. If you. go up Ivar, you're at the bottom of the. hills. >> and it's quiet. It's pretty. And then. then you come out, >> right? >> But it it was so I was like, "Oh, I like. this." But on the flats, like just like in Hollywood, Hollywood.

>> like I I get what you're saying, but I. did feel like I needed to be near it. >> Yeah. No, I get the I get the wanting to. be near it. And I thought about it for a. while, but I just know me. >> Like I need downtime, >> right? >> I go hard. And when I go hard, I need. like off time. I need like completely. off. >> sit down, relax, and think about [ __ ]. right? >> Because I need to know what I think. >> And the only way I know what I think is.

if there's not a lot of noise going on. I can't just operate on momentum. >> I feel like when you operate on momentum. all the time, you make [ __ ] decisions, right? You know, you just you you start. like going down roads you shouldn't be. going down. You're like, "What am I. doing? What the [ __ ] am I doing with my. life?". >> So, did you did you plot your life out a. lot? >> No. >> In a sense? >> No. I'm just like I just like go on. instinct. My instinct was like get away. from everybody, >> right? >> Like go quiet. I want to just wake up in. the morning, have coffee on the porch, and just hear birds chirping and see, you know, see a [ __ ] deer bounce by. Like, that's what I like. I like to.

relax. >> That's some cool [ __ ]. >> Yeah, you have to. If I'm in the. Manhattan, [ __ ] you. I'm like, I don't feel. relaxed, >> right? >> This is a place for me to visit. But. it's just. >> my personality, like whatever it is with. me. Like even when I lived in New York, >> I I live I couldn't afford an apartment. that had a rental. I couldn't afford a. rental car space, but I needed a car for. the road, >> right? >> Cuz I took the total opposite approach. of you. >> I did not do the clubs in the city very. often. >> No, that's where I met you.

>> Yeah. No, I still did some of them, right? But most of the road is mostly. the road is what I did, right? >> So, I did a lot of gigs in Long Island. I did a lot of gigs in New Jersey. because that paid real money and I could. do an hour, >> you know? I was like, I could get better. in the city, but I'm getting better in. these five and 10 minute spots. Like, I. need time. I need like real time to put. together an act. >> because when you were in Boston, you. always went on the road. Everybody did. the road, >> right? So, it didn't make sense to me to. be like just doing one 10-minute spot.

and another 10-minute spot. Like, I. can't I I I thought the opposite. This. is why. So, I was doing all those shows. that you were doing like the for the for. the hour for the feature. First, I. started hosting, but then I was like, I. need to get on TV so that I can get on. the road. >> Yeah. >> And then people book me and then come. see me. So then I said, "Let me go to. Manhattan, which takes me out of the. hour situation, but in these 15-minute. spots, build people see me, put you on.

this TV show, put you on that TV show, and like as a standup, as a you know, like you know, like the improv or. whatever like standup show that they. would have and then cuz back then it's. like a few late night show appearances. and then boom, then you could be on the. road." So I went that route and that was. my mentality for probably way after the. [ __ ] changed. >> Oh, you kept you hang hung on to it too. long. >> Yeah. Even living in LA.

>> Yeah. >> I remember this is this is this is I was. with Kevin Hart, right? He just moved to. LA and he I wrote on his sitcom uh The. Big House and then he's booking he's a. good actor like and when he walks like I. I've helped him audition before but I. didn't really help him audition he would. just be like blah blah blah blah blah. blah blah blah and he wouldn't say all. the words but he would nail the feeling. of the [ __ ]. >> and like you don't have to remember.

everything. >> and it's like it was a eyeopening. experience and then. >> but then he said I want to be on the. road like Cat Williams. I'm like, why. you want to do that? Get another TV show. and then. then the the fame of the TV show will. get you on the road. Thank god that. [ __ ] didn't listen to me. >> He went on the road. He's doing like. $1,500, you know, the you know the the. route to build and and collecting. emails.

>> Yep. >> The complete opposite. And. >> [ __ ] Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart. Yeah. Well, he was always very smart about the. social media thing and treated it like a. separate business. >> cuz like I remember there was a story. about someone wanted uh access to his. social media to promote a project they. were doing. He was like no. >> Sony. >> that's a totally different deal. Like. you got one deal you got Kevin Hart to. act in your movie. Another deal you get. access to Kevin Hart's Instagram. Like I. built this. >> right? >> This is my business and if you want to.

do that we can talk but it's this is not. the same deal. >> Yeah. And I was like, "Oh, okay." That. because they did that to a lot of. people. They did that to Arsenio. I. remember Arsenio Hall was at the Ice. House and you remember he had the. Arsenio Hall show came back. >> Came back. Yeah, I remember. >> So when it came back, they took over his. social media. That was part of the deal. And then they didn't give it back to. him. >> And this Yes. And this is a long time. afterwards. Like months and months and. months afterwards, we were hanging out. at the Ice House and he's like, "I can't. get my social media back.".

And he built that from being on the. apprentice. >> also from being original show. Yeah. Which was an iconic show. I mean he did. everything. He did standup. I mean. Arcenio Hall was in movies. >> and they took his [ __ ] social media. >> That's crazy. >> Yeah. It was crazy. But that was they were. trying to make deals like that, >> right? >> When I was uh doing that show Joe Rogan. Questions Everything, they wanted to do. that. That was going to be a part of the. deal. They take over my social media. >> And what year what year was that?

2012 maybe. >> Yeah. You had a You had a strong. >> It was okay. It was nothing like Not as. big as it is now, but it was big enough. that I was like, "Fuck, it's bigger than. you.". >> Yeah. It was It was bigger than one of. the biggest. Yeah. No, I know. But it. was big. It was big for then. For then. I think you. >> It was pretty big. But my point is like. for me when they were saying it to me, I'm like my show my social media. presence is bigger than you. Like you. have a network. Your network social. media is not nearly as big as my my one.

person social. Why would I do that? Why. would I let you have access to it? And. they wanted to be able to promote their. other shows on my social media. >> and then just dilute it and turn it into. something that's crazy. >> And not only that, they could write on. it whatever they wanted to, whatever. they and they said other artists aren't. having a problem with us doing this. This was like their argument. It was. like a hangup in the deal. >> And I was like abso fuckingutely not. Like if I post something, even if it. sucks, I want people to know that came. out of my fat little thumbs. Like I. wrote that. That's it. Whether you like. it or you hate it, know that it came.

from me. And when they did that, I was. like, "Oh, so how many people have been. doing this?" And it was a bunch of my. friends had to sign off deals like that. >> It was part of the deal. If you wanted. to do this new show, you had to give. them access to your social media. >> Not just access, control of your social. media. >> That is wild. >> Wild. >> That's that into perpetuity type [ __ ]. that they put in contracts when you do. like a standup set on something. Like. what what do you plan on doing this. material? >> H nothing. And then they say they. actually mention space and planets,

>> don't they? In those contracts. >> There's some contracts like that. >> And you're like, whoa, what the [ __ ] do. you know. >> that I don't know? >> I read about a contract, I don't know if. this is true, that um some sort of a. Scientology contract that is like into. infinity to the end of the universe. >> Wow. >> It's like talk about covering your. bases. Not even until you die. Like. until time runs out. >> Billionyear commitment.

>> Seorg. Here it is. >> Wow. >> A symbolic billionyear. commitment which functions as a. perpetual contract with no expiration. date while other staff members sign. employment contracts of varying lengths. Sometimes short-term is just 2.5 years. but potentially extending to 5 years or. more. And these agreements may be. disguised as volunteer or religious. worker contracts to avoid labor laws. So. the sea or if I think click on sea or I.

think he collect how much they paying. you a week. >> nothing. >> to to to sign off on that. >> They give you nothing. They give you. nothing and you're happy. You just can't. believe you're a part of the sea or I'm. going to be in the sea or it's. >> that's wild, bro. >> Wow. A billionear contract. >> Yeah, that's that's wild. Well, they. they you know, people have been doing. that to get advantage of young artists. in particular forever. >> Like that's why Prince had to change his. name to a symbol, right? >> You know, that's. >> they they've been doing that to people.

forever. Jared Leto is going through. that [ __ ] right? You know, he went. through that [ __ ] with his band. >> It's just there's always going to be a. business that takes advantage of you and. makes it look like it's not a big deal. like uh Spotify, like uh I know this is Spotify, but. there's a lot of beef about Spotify. right now. >> What's the big beef? >> Uh just artists ain't getting paid. >> Yeah. The people who get paid are the. people that own the records, unfortunately. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> That's the That's the If you own your.

label or you own your catalog, then you. get paid. >> Mhm. >> It's just What contracts did you sign? That's the thing. It's like if you're a. an upcoming artist today and you're. listening to this, do you need a record. label? >> Like, do you really need a why? No one's. buying records. >> Right. >> How do you how do you get your [ __ ]. played. >> outside of. like it's easy to avoid a label, >> right? >> Right. >> Right. >> But how do you get your [ __ ] heard? Like.

>> it has to go viral, >> right? >> It has so it has to be undeniable. And. so is anything really going viral or is. it. >> artificial viral? >> Artificial viral like. >> both both things are happening. Yeah, there's definitely real still real. viral. >> Mhm. >> But there's a lot of artificial viral. and that's what a record company can do. for you, >> right? >> They can make you go artificial viral, >> right? >> And they it will go viral if you're. good, but it's like they can juice it up. to a point, but what is the cost? They. want like 50%. They want some insane.

amount of money from your touring. You're touring. You're touring. You. doing live performances. They don't even. sing a word and they get paid. >> And that's where. >> like artists used to get ripped off in. their deals, but they used to make money. touring, >> right? >> But then they cut into the touring now. >> Well, because they weren't making any. money selling records anymore. >> because who was making the money. selling? >> Well, the thing is like nobody was for a. long time, right? It was just streaming.

and but then there was like Apple. streaming and Apple you. >> Spotify ate them up. >> Yeah. They just Nobody buys music on. Apple anymore. I mean I used to listen. to before I signed my Spotify deal. everything was Apple Music. >> Yeah. >> And for the longest time I wasn't even. using Spotify. And then once I started. using I was like oh this is better. >> Right. Right. >> And that was it. I get it if you're an. artist and you're like you're not. getting paid like I get it. I don't know. what to say. I don't know why you signed.

that deal. I don't know what the. circumstances were. I don't know how. those deals are even legal. >> Yeah. I don't know how. if like I got like my special is coming. out on YouTube. So, I got there's a way. for comics to do it without signing a. big deal. Yes. >> Or signing everything away, giving it. over to somebody for less than you. showed or even if it pays a a a legit. amount. There's you don't it's not for a.

billion, right? You you can keep it, but. I don't know if you're a musician like. what way you can get your [ __ ] heard. >> You got to put it out like that. You got. to put it out on YouTube, put it out on. social media. Someone has to retweet it. Someone has to hear about it, talk about. it on a podcast. You can get it out. You. know, we were talking about, it's a. little late, but we were talking about. that Johnny Thunder song, I'm Alive. We. played it yesterday and then Jamie. brought up that after we first started.

playing it on the podcast like two years. ago. It's a song from 1969. There was. like a lost song. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> And Brian Simpson brought it to the. mothership and he's like, "This is going. to be like one of your favorite songs. You got to listen to this." And we. played it in the green room and I was. like, "Holy shit." And we had to figure. out that it was from 1969. Like when was. this? Like who was this guy? Like what. what is the deal? The dude back then. apparently was still alive and he died. like a year later. So he might have died. knowing that his song had started to.

become big again cuz then it started. appearing in commercials. Oh. >> it was in a bunch of commercials. >> What were the commercials again? >> Samsung Lincoln like Mountain Dew. commercials. >> I don't think so. >> He was only he only had this one song. that was amazing. >> Yeah. >> Oh that's why I was looking that up. yesterday. He actually had a Billboard. Billboard hit before that. >> What was that one? >> Uh, Loop-de-loop. >> Was it good? >> I didn't I was going to play it. yesterday, but get to it. >> Let's play it. >> I say a loop-de-loop. >> Let's say a loop-de-loop.

>> But the point is like he should have. been a star. >> He should have been I say Johnny. Thunder. And you're like, "Oh, I love. that dude. >> His second album's amazing." You know, >> he should have been at least Chubby. Checker. >> Yeah. Number four on the pop chart. >> Little twist. >> Chubby Checker got so much mileage off. the twist. twist. >> I've never seen somebody get that much. mileage. [Music]. >> I have to edit this out. >> Yeah, we'll edit it out. All right, kill. this. >> This is terrible. Now play. >> He looked like the dude that was.

fighting Muhammad Ali in his ear. I. said, "Was that. the play I'm alive now? This This is the. [ __ ] jam, son. This song. I listen to. this song all the time. This is on. regular playback.". >> Yeah. First of all, he looks like a. Death Jam comic. That's number one. Like or even like like an Aeno Hall like. back in the days like. >> So, what year was this, Jamie?

>> This one was 69. >> Wow. Damn. >> And then I also read that he had been uh. performing with the Drifters and did the. back of vocals I think for like Dion. Warwick or something like that. See, that song to me is just proof that. there's a lot of factors involved in. making it because that guy should have. been a [ __ ] superstar. That is a. superstar song. >> Yeah. Because I'm listening to just the. opening. >> Yeah. >> I was like, >> let's stop there. >> Let's stop there and take that in for a.

second. >> and then it switched. >> I wasn't even ready for the switch, but. I was like, let me go. Let me go with. this. >> And. it's so good. Then I could see it in. like the beginning or the end of so many. TV shows, >> right? >> Like I was like, "Oh, this this is. >> this is the guy that wrote that song.". >> Tommy James. >> and performed it and recorded it a year. after that. Wow. We just listened to. >> Tommy James and the Shondell. >> He sang Mooney Mooney. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> That was another song that like.

that was a famous song that uh what's. his face? Um, the guy with the hair. God damn it. Billy Idol. >> Billy Idol. >> Billy Idol came out with. >> 81. >> Wow. >> Which also seems like a million years. ago. That was when I was in high school. >> How weird, man. >> I know. >> First of all, weird the when he when. Loop Toop was a hit and then he made the. other song and it wasn't a hit. I know. he was pissed. >> I know. Can you imagine? >> Can you imagine? Like that's that's what.

y'all like. >> Loop T-loop. You y'all ain't heard a. live this is I've this listen to their. live [ __ ]. >> It's sometimes people just put it all. together for one. I mean that's a thing. about songs, right? Like the one hit. wonder thing. Yeah. >> It's a different time. I mean it was the. early 60s or coming out. I don't know. how big. >> before the drugs. >> radio, you know, >> early 60s people were still naive. They. were goofy. >> Yeah. >> They were still father knows best, you. know. They're all. >> father knows best. >> Leave it to Beaver. They were goofy.

People were goofy in ' 63. By 69 they. got wild. It was real quick. >> I wonder what people with internet minds. back then did. >> Drugs or people with internet mind. internet mentality. How did they mask in. society? How did they. >> comic books? They read a lot of comic books. >> Yeah. They went to comic book shops. They went to like punk rock concerts. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They had to like find group. They. went to CBGBs. They had to find places.

where they could fit in. There's no. online forums for that. >> No, it was a factory for turning people. into drones, right? >> That was society back then. Turn you. into a worker drone. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Because we school already trains. us for it. >> Yep. >> Like every the bell rings, you get up, you go to the next class, and. >> it's designed for that. Yeah. >> It's not the best way to teach kids. And. guys like you and I, they label you as. like ADHD or something, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Did you get labeled? I didn't get.

labeled because I don't know why I kind. of like my my father and them was like. you know they're immigrants they they're. like so you got to work hard you know. what I mean so you got to like apply. yourself and you this is a they went out. of their way to provide this opportunity. so I didn't want to blow it up to a. certain point but after a certain point. like I was going to do comedy which was. something that they didn't expect or.

would have wanted me to do. >> But high school and college, like I. didn't mind, you know what I mean? Maybe. around college, that's when [ __ ] started. to get like a little wonky. But the high. school [ __ ] like, all right, I I I can. get some good grades. That's I can. follow that blueprint up until there and. a little bit after. But then in college, that's when [ __ ] like. >> well then they're prepping you for the. real world and you realize it's going to. be your whole day doing [ __ ] you don't. want to do and there's no joy in. Mudville. You're like [ __ ].

>> right? >> Unless you're into it. Unless like. college is like whatever subject that. you want to pursue in life is that's the. way to go. You know, if you want to be. an astronomer, that's how you learn, >> you know. But for for a comic, like. college is just like why why am I forced. to do this? Like why am I making myself. do this? It's like what is the end goal? If I get a job, I'm [ __ ]. >> right? I knew that I always wanted to. like have make a decent amount of money. and be middle class. That was the I was. like, so you got to go to college,

right, to do that. That's that's the way. we were programmed, >> right? >> But the instant comedy came into my. mind, it was never a risk for me. Like I was never risking that stability. for the gamble of comedy. >> What did it feel like instead of a risk? >> The only thing to do. >> Yeah, I know what you mean. >> Like this there was a switch and once.

you turned it on that [ __ ] was broke. It. couldn't go back the other way and this. is what we was doing. >> Yeah. That's kind of how you have to be if you. want to do it. I think that's the same. with music. I think that's the same with. literature. You want to write books, you. >> I feel lucky about it though. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Because there's people that were able to. turn their switch back off. Mine is still on. >> Yeah. Well, that's cuz you're doing the. right thing. You're doing the thing that.

you're supposed to be doing, >> right? when people there's there's. people that turn that switch off because. there's something else drags them in or. >> they can't beat their demons. >> Right. Right. >> You know, there's a lot of people that. there's a lot of different de there's. some demons are like they're not even. dark demons. They're like gray demons. like depression. >> You can't be the demon of a dull. depression. They don't they don't have. the energy to write. They don't have the. energy to perform. They don't have the. energy to eat healthy. They don't have. the energy to do [ __ ] and then they.

just settle into a mundane life because. they can't beat those demons and they. also don't have support. There's a lot. of those dudes that get real dark. because they don't have support. They're. not friends. I I listen and and I and I and I feel I. don't I feel bad for those people. I. don't I don't know. We don't even know. what happened to this guy who we just. played. Like what. >> right what went wrong? What deterred. him? What took him off track? >> Right. But he clearly had something.

I've seen people with something and I. like I remember damn I don't know if I. can remember his name. We're all doing. open mics like we're grinding. We're. bombing. Then this guy comes in one. night and he's at the governors. He goes. on stage. He's our age. He rips. I mean, we're like even we're like, "Wow.". Hey, man. what's what's your name? Tells. us his name might come to me in a.

minute. I said, "How many how long you. been doing it?" This is my first time. And then it was like that every time he. went on stage and we hung out with him. and it was just we're like this guy we. it's like we're pleased for him and. we're his biggest fans and we're angry. at him at the same time. >> and then he just disappeared. >> Yeah. M yeah. >> Then I ran into him in Queens and he was. kind of doing it but it wasn't the same.

like the Muhammad Ali thing. >> He stopped training for. >> enough years. >> Yeah. >> To like lose it all to not even be as. good as the first time we saw him, which. was his first time. One of the reasons why I talk about the. way uh I approach things is because I. think I wish someone had told me the. little pitfalls that life will throw you.

and the little games that will be played. in front of you where you have to make. decisions of which way to go and and if. something went wrong, you got to make. the decision to pull yourself up and. figure out how to make it better. like. what do I have to do to keep going? But. clearly I'm on a path. Other people are. doing this path. I got to figure out how. to do this. Some people just get to. those pitfalls and then they never. recover. They just they just they start. drinking, they start eating too much, they start doing this, they start doing.

that, they get into a bad funk, they. lose some money, they get into a toxic. relationship. That's a big one. >> That's a big one. That's one of the big. distractions that people do and they. don't even realize they're doing it. You're distracting yourself from having. success in life by being addicted to. this relationship that you're in with. this person where you yell at each other. and you know who knows who knows what. your your particular brand of chaos is. But the one thing that it has in common, it's a gigantic distraction from you. doing what you want to do in life and. you don't have your [ __ ] together. So.

you find someone else who doesn't have. your [ __ ] together and you pile all your. [ __ ] together and make it way worse, right? and you both [ __ ] each other's. lives up. >> and at the end of it maybe one of you. will write a song about it. >> That's hilarious. But that's when it's. worth it. >> Even when you're talking about bad. relationships, I like [ __ ] that's. material. >> It is material. It is material and it's. a lot of fun. >> I never go on a bad date cuz if a date. is good, it's good. If it's bad, then. it's material. >> You know what I mean? Like so comics. complain about dates. I'm like that's an.

experience. That's some [ __ ] you could. bring to the stage. Like, why are you. down about this? >> How many times has someone told you a. crazy story like in the green room or. something like that? You're like, "Have. you said that on stage yet?". >> Yeah. >> You're like, "No, can I?". >> Yeah. I tell people all the time like. that is like sometimes my friend, he. just broke up with his girl. He's sad. He's talking about I'm like, "Damn, this. [ __ ] don't know how funny he's about to. be.". And he's crying. He's crying like and.

I'm like, man, Penny, >> some of the greatest comedy came out of. Broken Hearts. >> Yeah. >> Look at Kenisonson. >> I was married twice. >> This whole thing. >> Yeah. >> This whole thing was like just getting. his heart broken. >> He one of his best bits was he sat at. the piano and sang a love song to his. ex. >> It's like, I hope you die. I hope you. slide under a gas truck and taste your. own blood. Die. I want my records back. I want my [ __ ] records back.

and you looked at him and you just. believed it all cuz like of course he's. a little fat guy with no hair people are. going to dump on him. It's not going to. work out, you know, even if you're. famous and you look like that, he's. going to. >> they're going to get tired of you. >> He's a walking underdog story underdog. without even [ __ ] explaining it and. turning that [ __ ] into something. And. how do you not gravitate. >> towards that? like every heartbreak. >> that I've experienced like underneath in.

me I'm like man don't worry once this. cloud lifts we you'll be able to talk. about this on stage like. >> that's that's a part of like. >> the survival that's how far gone in this. I am. and I'm just realizing it now as I talk. to you. >> that's funny. >> yeah that's how that's like Uh. yeah, it's like trying to think of like. when bad [ __ ] like I got into somebody.

hit my car. I was like this is going on. stage or just anything. Yeah. It's just. like. >> and sometimes I'm when I I don't have. that many civilian friends anymore, but. sometimes I used to just complain on the. phone about an interaction. >> You know what's funny? Like military. people do not like us talking about non-. comedians and civilians. We're at war, baby. No, I'm just. kidding. I know I I cannot military. people. I get that.

>> I get it. But that is a term we have. used forever. >> Forever. >> Forever. >> Forever. Like the first time I heard. somebody say it, I was like, how did you. know that I said I say that? The first. time I ever heard a comic refer to other. to non-comics to civilians. I was like, that's what I say in my head. How the. [ __ ] did you And it's like, nobody's. stealing it from each other. >> Right. Right. >> But all our terms are related to battle. like bombed, killed, you know, died. You. know what I mean? So, it's like we we. all got battle terms.

>> Yeah. Well, because it is kind of a. mental battle, >> right? >> There's a weird battle of control and. there's always a lot of drunk people in. the audience that don't want you taking. control. >> They want to take control of you. I. mean, Don El Rollins got his start as a. heckler. >> Hilarious. >> Don El Rollins. That's how he proudly. He's like, "I'm a proud heckler, son.". It's really funny. But it's like so it. is kind of there's a battle too and it's. also a battle of your own self. There's. a battle inside of you to try to like. what we were talking about before to get.

to that flow state. >> Yeah. >> Like what is that battle? >> Yeah. >> There's some nights I don't have it. I. don't It doesn't come. And then other. nights it's right there. The moment I. start talking, >> I'm smiling. I'm in the groove and it's. like we hilarious. Do you have an. inkling of it before? Did you do. anything to get there? I always think. about that. Generally, it has to be a. day that I work out. Like, uh, for me, I. work out so much that if I don't work. out, I get a little. >> just a little tense. >> First of all, you're in disrespectful.

shape. >> You're you're you're in shape is. disrespectful to me. >> Well, you got to eat meat if you want to. get in this kind of shape, son. We got. them soybeans. >> Where where the LCAT? >> I ate some today. >> Yeah. >> I cooked up some heart. >> Mhm. I cooked up some heart for for. lunch. >> A [ __ ]. >> It's good. >> Heart for lunch. >> Yeah, that's what I ate. Elkhart. >> Elkart. [ __ ] it. >> That's that's a big key, man. Protein. Animal protein. It's very important for. if you want to keep going.

>> You The thing is, it's like way easier. to keep going though than it is to get. going. Like if you're 58 and you start. working out now, like that's hard. But. if you're 58 and you've been working out. for. >> for me like 40 years, >> right? >> You know, it's not I mean like hard for. 40 years. More than that. 15. So yeah, more than that. Like I probably started. working out when I started wrestling. So. that was like 14. >> Yeah. >> Karate was around the same time. Then.

taekwondo from 15 on. >> So I've always worked out, >> right? >> It's like so my body just if if I don't. work out for a day, my body's like, "What's going on?" hilarious. >> Like, I'm trying to get rid of this. stuff. Like, I don't want any anxiety. I. don't want any tension. I want to blow. it out. >> You probably sleepwalking to the gym. You probably like wake up sometimes. like, "Oh [ __ ] I worked out.". >> Yeah. >> Like, I didn't You press the button for. the code and you was in there. You had. no [ __ ] idea. >> Well, that's why I like things that you. can't sleepwalk through. >> Like, if you're doing like heavy rounds.

on the bag, like you can't sleep through. walk through 10 rounds in the bag. >> When that seventh round comes around, you look at the timer, you're like, "Fuck, I got three more rounds. You do 10. >> Yeah. >> Damn. >> Just got I mean I do it at my own pace. It's not like 10 of fighting, >> but it's you know 10 where you're you're. going at it. >> and it's it but that's the point. The. point is that when it's done I'm like. >> I [ __ ] did it. And it's really 10 is. only 30 minutes of work. >> Yeah. I know. Yeah. Fighting is fighting.

is taxing. >> This is 10 three minute rounds when I. hit the bag. >> But like think about a MMA fight is five. minute rounds. That's crazy. >> Yeah. That's pretty crazy. >> That's crazy. And another dude is trying. to kill you. >> Yeah. >> For 5 minutes. >> And you're getting hit. >> in that time. >> And you're getting choked and body. slammed and your arms getting yanked. out. >> Then you have to recover. They got ice. on your shin in between rounds. Like, [ __ ] am I doing with my life? I should. have went to school. >> Yeah, that is a crazy mentality type of. life. God bless them. >> God bless them. And they they have to be.

allin, too. The way you're all in with. comedy and you always have been, they. have to be all in with fighting. And. even then, there's no guarantee because. there might be a Mike Tyson in your. division. There might be a Sugar Ray. Leonard. There might be a Floyd. Mayweather. There might be a dude you're. never catching up to. >> like Crawford. >> Yeah. Like I say, like I don't know much. about fighting and I've learned a lot. from you. I remember we did a show in I. think Denver and there was this female.

fighter. She came backstage and she was. up there and she had just have a had a. kid and she's still going to fight but. she's like there's other things to life. I'm going to like raise my son and blah. blah blah blah blah blah blah. >> And then once she said there's other. things to life and I was like you're in. my just in my head and you're a father. and just the way she said it and some. other things. >> I was like she shouldn't fight no more. Mhm. >> And I watched all her fights after that.

and she might have won one, >> but she Yeah, she didn't she didn't and. she would I can't remember her name per. se, but I just remember her saying that. >> you're the king of that. Not being able. to remember. Leave us with mysteries. >> You're welcome. I'm out. >> The comments are going to try to find. that dude that you said is the best. fighter ever. They're scouring right. now. >> Yeah, somebody came up with that. Yeah, it's a thing that you have to you have. to either want to be a world champion, you have to want to be the best in the. world, or you have to be willing to.

accept that you're a journeyman. And if. you're willing to accept that you're. just doing it for a paycheck, it's a. crazy way to make a living. But there. are a lot of guys out there, >> right, >> that they get to a point where they. realize, I'm never going to be champion, but I'm still going to make a lot of. money, >> right? >> And I'm still going to have some good. fights. As long as I don't have to fight. any world champions, I can be successful. 60% of the time. Maybe 70 if you're. lucky. >> It's a hard way to live though. >> It's a hard way to live. How much like. what's the average like paycheck.

for a fight for a fighter like that you. just described? >> It depends on how much uh they have. crowd popularity, right? Like if you're. a Donald Cerrone, cowboy Cerrone who. never won the title, but he was a guy. who. >> love Cerrone. >> He he would make some real good money. Real good money. I I don't want to be. talk out of school. I don't know what. his his checks were, >> right? >> But you could get rich. You could be a. multi-millionaire. Like Sean Strickland, he was just talking about it uh in one. of his his Instagram stories. That's why. I could say this. >> Mhm. >> Where he said he's got about $4 million.

in the bank. >> That's good. >> I'm like, that's amazing. >> Yeah. And he's he's what 30s? >> He's in his 30s. He's still top of the. food chain, one of the best in the world. in his division, and he's got money set. aside. Like, that's a smart dude. >> You got to kind of be able to do that. because if you don't do that, and then. you run out of fighting and you run out. of money and you run out of options and. you run out of ideas. >> Mhm. >> You don't know what to do. That's a. terri See, we could do what we do. Domrera said this to me once. He was. like 65 years old and he got off stage, he [ __ ] murdered. And he goes,

"Joey," he goes, "One of the things I. love about this [ __ ] game," he's. like, "As long as you're in it, you're. still getting better." He's like, "I'm. still getting better.". >> Right? >> And it was it was beautiful to watch. because it's true. Like Rodney. Dangerfield, deep into his 70s, killing. killing. >> George Carlin deep into his late 80 late. ages before he died. Killing. You know, you could still do it. >> And with fighting, there's a time where. you're. >> all this fails you, right? All the. shoulders fail, the back fails, the neck. fails, the wheels fall off, and then you.

can't take a shot anymore, and you got. to get out. >> Yeah. I've seen it in boxing cuz that's. the the the combat sport that I've. watched the most growing up. >> Mhm. >> Uh [ __ ] I'm going to mention another. name that I can't remember. >> There's been a lot of. >> So, there was this black guy who was. fighting a Mexican guy, but they're big. name guys. >> Mel, Taylor, Julio Caesar Chavez. >> Boom. Yeah, >> that fight. >> Yeah. >> Never the same after that, >> bro. I got a Hulio shot. I sure. >> Oh [ __ ] Yeah.

>> Look at that. >> He was winning the fight. >> Yep. Yep. >> Winning it. >> Winning it. >> Got. >> winning it. >> Chase chased him down. >> Yep. Got stopped in the last seconds of. the last round. And uh Mel Taylor was. never the same. >> Never. >> Never the same again. >> Ever. Ever, bro. >> Never the same again. >> All the skill. >> Yep. >> All the technique. >> And he was a great fighter. Great. Olympic gold medalist. Yes. World. champion. >> He. >> Yeah. >> He never he didn't enter leave that ring.

the way he went in. >> Yep. >> And he was good enough to beat Chavez. >> Mhm. Crazy. >> Kind of. Cuz he lost. But. >> he almost beat Chavez. >> He almost. And that would have been a. great moment. >> Huge. Huge moment. >> Huge. >> But the amount of damage he took up. until that final blow was already sealed. his fate for the rest of his life. Even. if he never got hit with that last. punch, >> if he just made it to the final bell and. raised his hands up and they gave him. the decision, >> you know, and no, if they did that,

>> he still is never the same again. >> Yeah. >> Cuz Chavez was just breaking him down. Breaking him down. And then. >> you not around those guys the next day. That's the s the saddest thing about the. UFC would I run into dudes who lost the. next day at the airport. >> and you see them at the airport and like. one eye is completely shut. They got. bandages on their forehead where they. got cut open, their arms in a sling and. they're shuffling because their legs are. so beat up they can barely walk.

>> Mhm. >> And you see them get on the plane you're. like whoa. They got sunglasses on and. [ __ ] and they're just and everybody's. like that's that guy f last night. He. got knocked down. >> [ __ ] Yeah. >> And you see him walking by. >> sometimes that's the winner too. >> Oh yeah. >> That's how brutal that [ __ ] is. >> Oh yeah. Often times that's the winner. >> But you would you would see those guys. at the airport. You're like wow. that's a that's a wakeup call cuz it's. not just the night of the fight. It's. like how long is it going to be before. you feel normal again? >> Right. Yeah. that you brought up Bernard.

Hopkins earlier. >> and he has uh the way he fought was. >> I ain't getting CTE. >> First of all, you may hit me and if it. is, it's be you're going to hit me while. I'm holding you. >> and you ain't get no force or no power. and people are going to cuss. >> and say I'm a dirty fighter and let the. [ __ ] go. This is not a dance. >> and this ain't the electric slide or the. twostep. Let but I am not getting no.

brain damage like Muhammad Ali used to. move. Bernard would come to you, hug. you, pat, >> hug you again, pat hug you again. People. paid their money, curse this. [ __ ] out, but they still come. back to see this [ __ ] hold. >> Yeah, he frustrated the [ __ ] out of. people. But he did [ __ ] some people up, too. When he [ __ ] up Felix Trinidad, that was that was a big one cuz. everybody thought Trinidad was going to. kill him. >> I thought Trinidad was going to kill. him, too. He He was a bad [ __ ]. deep into his late 40s.

>> Yes. >> Late 40s world class. That's crazy. >> If you don't let him fight, you could. fight for a long ass time. >> You could just keep fighting. Just don't. let him fight. He knew all the arm. locks. >> But even him, like the last fight he had. against Joe Smith Jr., he got knocked. out of the ring and fell on his head. >> and he was 50 years old. >> That's a That's old, bro. >> I know. And the guy he was fighting, the. guy he fought, Joe Smith Jr. is a. murderous puncher. Just murderous.

puncher. And he just hitting Bernard. with these haymakers. And Bernard went. through the ropes and the ropes were. loose and he fell out of the ropes and. landed on his [ __ ] head. That's how. the fight. >> He's too old to be doing it. First of. all, he's too old to like like you said, your body goals. So he probably doesn't. have the strength. >> No, >> his body's not. So. >> also falling out of the the ring and no. one catches you and you land on your. head. That's crazy. >> That's crazy. >> It's almost makes up for all the punches. he missed. >> Exactly. >> His entire career all in that one.

moment. >> I mean, that's a car wreck. >> Yeah. >> That could [ __ ] you up for the rest of. your life. >> Yeah. We're lucky. We're lucky we picked. a thing that doesn't give you brain. damage you keep doing forever and ever. >> Yeah. Or we were just made this way or. it picked us. I don't know what is this. too serendipitous. >> But I'm glad. >> I'm glad, too. >> Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad we've been friends. all this time, too. We've had a fun. ride. >> Yeah, we had a fun ride. Let's keep this. [ __ ] going. [ __ ] it. >> Uh, tonight. You doing my show tonight? >> Uh, I'm leaving. I'm going back to LA.

You ain't going to like that answer. That's why I even asked. >> What do you do? You have to go back. Can. we change your flight? >> I I got a writing job. >> Oh, you got to be there tomorrow. >> So, I got to be there tomorrow. >> Oh, okay. All right. >> Yeah. >> Those writing jobs, that Velvet Prison, son. >> I'm I'm trying to break out. That's why. I got this special and I'm I'm going to. keep putting out specials, bro. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Beautiful. >> Yeah. >> All right, brother. Well, uh, tell. everybody what's the name of it. Where. is It's on YouTube. >> It's on YouTube at Ian Edwards Standup.

>> Untitled. >> It's called Untitled. And all the money. from the views and the AdSense goes to. victims of the LA Fire. >> Oh, beautiful. >> Yeah. I don't want no. >> For real, though. >> For real. >> For real. For real. Like unlike the all. those other gigantic, >> you know me, I've never scammed anybody. No. >> You know what I mean? I'm just like I. was there in LA when it happened and it. was devastating. >> Did you do this in the La Hoya? >> Yeah. At the comedy store. >> The La Hoya is a guy that's such a great. room. That's such a great room.

>> Yeah. >> Beautiful. All right. You're the best. I. love you. >> I love you. I love you, fam. All right. Bye, everybody. [Applause]. [Music].