Joe Rogan Experience #2356 - Mike Vecchione

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> Train by day. Joe Rogan podcast by. night. All day. >> Feeling better now. >> It's awesome. >> Does it feel better? >> It does feel better. Yes. >> A little bit. Yeah. You It's just a. consistent thing. You have to do it. every day. We're talking about. decompressing the back, ladies and. gentlemen. >> Lower back pain. >> Another thing you can do without a. machine is just um bend your knees. Just. bend slightly, grab your arms like this, and just like go forward and relax your.

back. And it'll pop your back that way, too. >> Cuz I know how to pop a upper back. That's where you have when you get the. person grab you and then hold you and. then and then you can hear it crack. >> I don't know how, you know, I don't know. how good it is kind of, >> but uh the lower back is uh when I. played football, I played contact. football and we used to go to uh. physicals. you had to get a physical and. it was just a gigantic room and you go. from doctor to doctor so everybody could. do it at one time. And I remember I laid.

down and the doctor grabbed my leg and. we was trying to get range of motion and. he got it like 3/4 of the way up and it. stopped and he said to me, "You're going. to have lower back pain when you were. older." And that's exactly what. happened. >> You can avoid it. >> He predicted it. >> There there's there's a lot of ways to. avoid it. You know, people just accept. it. But uh what what you're telling me. right there with you not being able to. get your leg up. That's a hamstring. issue. So, one thing, hamstrings and. quads, uh, and and glutes, all the.

tightness in those areas will absolutely. affect your back. >> because anytime you have restricted. range of motion and you're really tight, everything else is tight, too. >> I say everything like kind of pulled. down and you have to figure out a way to. lengthen that [ __ ] out. And, um, there's. a lot of different stretches you could. do, but you definitely should be doing. them. Nobody likes to stretch. It sucks. Everybody hates it. But if you don't do. it, you're going to go to a doctor and. they're going to want to cut you open. And don't do that because there's other.

ways around that. If you're listening to. this and you got a bulging disc in your. back, there's ways around it, folks. There's decompression. There's stem. cells. There's a thing that I did a long. time ago in California called Oh my god, what is it called? What is that [ __ ]. called that Payton Manning did? And. >> Reenikine. >> Regenicine. Thank you. Escaped my mind. It's early. Um, regenine is where they. it's like plateletri plasma but it's a. more sophisticated version of it. They. first started pioneered it in Germany. You used to have to go to Germany to get. it but now you get it in America. But uh.

>> stop over in Turkey for the hair and. then hit Germany for. >> You don't have to do it. It's in America. now. Is it What is the name of the. place? Life life cycle medicine in Santa. Monica. What is the name of the place? Why am I not remembering? My brain has. way too much extra information and my. hard drive is so full. >> Lifespan. >> lifespan lifespan medicine in Santa. Monica is where I had it done. It was. amazing. My my neck was [ __ ] up for. like almost a year and I was going to. chiropractors who are all goofy. They're.

all It's all nonsense. >> And then uh I finally went to this guy, Dr. Ben Rui there and he said, "You have. a bulging disc in your neck." We got an. MRI. He's like, "This is what we could. do. spinal decompression and we'll use. regenine. It's a very potent. anti-inflammatory. It'll relax all the. muscles around that area and you know. slowly it'll go back and it went back. Now it's hard. >> But you had to go in for several. treatments though. >> The regenine, no. Uh I think it was one. treatment. One treatment did it. I did.

go back again to get another treatment, but that's just cuz I do jiu-jitsu and. jiu-jitsu you're just always getting. your neck ranked on. I I went back to. get like um midback. I think I did one. more on my neck too, but it was I might. not have, but it was more like uh. maintenance than anything. The big issue. had been resolved. And then I started. strengthening. >> because I never really did anything to. strengthen my lower back, my neck, any. of those things while I was training. jiu-jitsu. In the beginning, I I just.

worked out normal stuff. I lifted. weights. But doesn't deadlifting and I don't know. if you did these things, but deadlifting. and squatting without I I squat. lightweight without a belt. Doesn't that. automatically strengthen your lower. back? I thought it automatically kind of. did. >> Well, I mean, it does a little bit, but. it depends on. >> but not the focused exercises that we. were just doing, >> right? Those are just lower back. Squats. are really for your legs, but it does. your lower back, but also it gets. compressed because you're carrying. weight in your shoulders. >> But, uh, I do belt squats, which I. really like. So, what belt squats are,

it's a different machine. There's. another one out there, too, that was. created by Louis Simmons from Westside. Barbell. And it's a strap that goes. around you and it goes to a cable that. goes in between your legs and the weight. is pulling down from your hips. >> So, it's not on your shoulders. compressing your spine, which is great. if you have a back issue. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, you can squat a lot of weight, but. all of it is like resting on your hips. >> Wow. That's awesome. >> I can definitely feel the difference in. my strength when I squat and when I. don't. Like I'm a guy who needs to lift.

weights. I was I wrestled with guys and. played football with guys who like were. naturally just shredded and did not need. it was annoying to them to lift weights. Not that it didn't benefit them, but. they were just very muscle bound and. they kind of didn't need it. I need to. lift weights. >> Well, everybody needs it if you're. competing against elite guys. That's the. thing. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously. But. >> to a certain level, they're doing it and. you know, if they you have great. genetics and they have great genetics. and they're doing strength and. conditioning and you're not, >> right? >> They're going to win. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Or at least they're going to have at. least some kind of an advantage.

>> But I tell everybody like my age, I'm. 52. It's like do a circuit. Do a. 40minute weight circuit. Do three sets. of just go just you got to do it. It. because I think it affects your I'm not. an expert on this or anything, but like. I think it affects your testosterone. I. can feel Oh, it definitely does. I can. feel it. >> Yeah, definitely. Lifting weights. definitely affects your testosterone. Here's another way to boost your. testosterone. Cold plunge before you. lift weights. That's a big one. Or if. you don't have that cold shower in the. winter, it's great. It's great. You do.

that before you lift weights before any. kind of training actually, >> you know, because there's been some. negative press lately on cold punches. and hypertrophy, but it's all about. doing it right after lifting weights, which is you're never supposed to do. that anyway. You're not supposed to. The. whole idea about lifting weights is. you're breaking your tissue down. The. inflammation helps you because your body. heals and then it gets stronger and you. don't want to like kill the inflammation. right after you work out. >> and the cold is killing the. inflammation, right?

>> Exactly. Exactly. So. >> I do that. I do that. I I I we just. moved into a new building. Gym in the. building. >> Oh, nice. >> And that's great. Yeah. We just we just. bought uh a condo in New York. Right in. time for socialism. >> Nice. Right in time for the [ __ ]. communist takeover. >> Right in time for all of us to have to. share. >> Yeah. You're going to have to share. You're going to have to have immigrants. move into your apartment. I mean, I just. did I just 20 years living with. roommates and I just finally got got. married and bought a place. >> This is the first time you've had your. own place. >> Yes.

>> Whoa. >> Yeah. >> Oh my god. >> Well, no, no, not the first time I have. my own place. We were renting. We rented. for 4 years, >> but this is the first time I've bought. something. >> Oh, okay. >> So, I bought property in New York. >> I don't know if that's a good idea or. not. Buying things. I go back and forth. >> Really? >> Yeah. It's like. >> I just was told diversify the problems. and. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You know. >> Yeah. Yeah, depends on where you are. New York City to me seems like a [ __ ]. time bomb. It's like there's a whole. bunch of crazy people with a bunch of. wacky ideas and they're getting voted. in. Like good luck with all that and. your options are them or the guy from.

[ __ ] Guardian Angels. >> Curtis Lewa, >> the guy with the. >> Curtis Lewa. What if he comes into. office and he goes, "Everybody wears. berets now.". >> Listen, it's a beret city. >> You have the beret. The things he's. saying make sense. Like a lot of the. stuff he says makes sense. If he didn't. have the beret, I'd be like, "Maybe I'll. take you a little more seriously.". >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? >> What do you do? Paint? >> Where's your cigarette holder? >> No, I love it. Yeah, I love the Guardian.

cuz they don't have weapons, right? Isn't that their whole thing? I I I came. after that whole uh initiative. But I do. like the idea. >> I do like the idea of someone out there. to protect the public other than cops. >> Yeah, there he is. He's been doing this. forever. I remember uh in I guess it was. the 90s I was in New York City and uh I. was in traffic with my girlfriend at the. time. She was sitting next to me and we. were looking at this guardian angel guy. I go, "Why do you have to wear the hat? Like what is with the hat? Like why do. they make them wear that [ __ ] hat?". And her and I are just laughing and the.

guy looks at me and goes, "Fuck you.". Like with a real angry face. I'm like, "Hey, that's not serving and protecting, sir. If you don't think that hat is. funny, the [ __ ] you, like what if I say. no [ __ ] you and I get out and I want to. fight." Yes. >> Come on. This is so stupid. You're not. You're not helping. This is not good. >> I would hate to lose to a guy with that. hat. >> Yeah, probably. You're not going to. I. would imagine anybody that really knows. how to fight is not going to put that. [ __ ] hat on. You're going to be like, "What am I doing? What is. >> But those guys like I think that what. they did is if there was a a disturbance.

or something or somebody was acting nuts. on the subway, they would just surround. him. Surround the person. >> Well, that's good. Yeah. as long as the. guy doesn't have a gun. >> or or a [ __ ] samurai sword or. whatever. >> Um, wasn't. >> or a tiger in his apartment. >> Yeah, there's a bunch of those. >> Yeah. Yeah, that was that was a big. thing for a while. Guys having just wild. wildlife in their apartment, >> tigers and crocodiles and [ __ ] Um, wasn't there a thing with Curtis Leewell. where like there was like a fake crime. >> and he was. he was like saving someone but it was.

wasn't real? >> Didn't something like that happen like. back in the day? >> I don't remember that one. I remember um. was it. >> Jamie's going to look it up. >> Okay. >> There was something like that where. >> I remember um. >> maybe it was an exaggeration or. something. >> John Gotti Jr. was brought to trial for. trying to kill him. >> Oh boy. >> Yeah. For saying stuff about his dad. >> Oh Jesus. >> Oh boy. >> He got I think it was just a hung jury. five times and he never got convicted of. it. But yeah, that was a that was a. thing. I remember that. >> Yeah. And we tried to shoot him in a.

cab. >> Whoa. >> Yeah. Cabs are bad enough. That was John. Gotti Jr. Interesting. You know, John. Gotti the third's an MMA fighter. Yeah, >> he's [ __ ] good, too. >> He's good. >> He's good. Yeah. >> Yeah, he's real good. He fought Floyd. Mayweather. >> I saw that. >> It was crazy. I think they fought twice. Admitted he and the Guardian Angels. faked heroic subway rescues for. publicity. >> Okay. So, in 1992, Slewood admitted he. and the Guardian Angels faked heroic. subway rescues for publicity. He also. admitted to having false claimed falsely.

that three offduty transit police. officers had kidnapped him. Sa explained at the time. >> there got to be some jail time, right? >> Should be, right? I mean, if you're. saying offduty transit police officers, so you're accusing police officers of a. crime. So what are you what you're doing. is not just lying, but you're also. putting the police officers in jeopard. jeopardy because you're falsely claiming. that these guys are outlaws. He claimed. at the time stunts were intended to. underscore the dangers of the subways. Like like who doesn't know about the.

dangers of the subway? >> Yeah, just let the natural stuff play. out. >> I've literally ridden the subway three. times in my [ __ ] life. And keep that. up, Jamie. And I'm very aware of the. dangers of the [ __ ] subways. >> When the Guardian Angels first became. patrolling the streets and subways, New. York City was experiencing some of the. highest crime rates. >> I feel the incidents we staged led to. some improvements, he said. Oh boy. Oh boy. >> Smlette. Yeah, it's before Jesse. >> Yeah, it's a Jesse Small. >> DJ before Jesse. >> Cubs. God damn.

>> That guy stuck to his story. Even the. guys who beat up the person, even when. they flipped, >> even after they flipped, he stuck to his. story. Is that an actor or is that an. actor? >> Bro, he showed up at the hotel and had. the noose still around his neck. >> That's what happens when you let actors. write the scripts. >> You know what I mean? Like Amber Heard. when she was on trial with Depp. like. kind of similar like like when you let. the actors write the script you're like. whoa whoa whoa whoa. >> hold up. >> what happened now.

>> come on what is this Netflix sets Jesse. Smlet documentary with new evidence. alleged hate crime hope might be a true. story. >> he never backtracked on it who's funding. this is new I I was I just Googled his. name and there's like the last two days. there's stories about this doc it could. just be a documentary. >> whoever his PR team is. >> congratulations you guys rule. >> it should Hey, at least a documentary. >> Yeah. What do you got there? A little. tiny cigar. >> Yeah, little tiny ones. >> You got a big one, too? >> Yeah. >> You're You're mixing it up. >> I'm mixing up.

>> You're not sure what you want? >> No, this is before I go on. Usually, I. just don't want to I don't want to take. the the commitment to this. >> Oh, I feel you. Give me one of them. little ones. I like those little ones. Ron White has those. Thank you. >> They're fantastic. Monte Cristos. >> They're good because like if you don't. want to commit to a full cigar, right on. stage, you But Ron White inhales these. [ __ ]. >> Does he really? >> Like an animal. And you're going to tell me he it cures. his lower back. >> Nope. >> Well, he plays golf, so he must have a. good lower back.

>> You know, by the way, speaking of which, I watched Happy Gilmore, too, last. night. It's [ __ ] hilarious. >> I like it, too. I just watched it. >> I love Adam Sandler. I love those movies. cuz you know exactly what you're going. to get. They're always fun. Like, critics hate them, but that just it's. more information that you get. The. critics suck. >> I love them, too. >> They're great. >> I think he's great. They're [ __ ] fun. I think he great. He's great. And what I. love about him is he doesn't care and he. just keeps moving with what he wants to. do with his people. He has a group of. people that he loves and that are. creative and that he just keeps going.

with it. Yeah. >> And I think he's very funny anyway. >> He's very funny. I saw his standup uh. live in Vegas once. >> Him and Rob Schneider that killed. It. was really fun. I hadn't seen Adam in. forever. I hadn't seen him since we did. uh Zookeeper together, which was like. had to be like 15 years ago somewhere. around then. Um, so he's got the same people that he. always works with. He's got the same. directors he always works with. He's. always working with Spade and Schneider.

and all the guys he knows. So it's like. real fun on the set. Everybody's. friendly. >> Same as Kevin James. He does Kevin James. rocks it the exact same way. Go to his. set, everybody's friendly. Everybody's. having fun. There's no weird [ __ ] ego. [ __ ] with the actors. Everybody's. pals. They're all pals. They all write. for each other. So they're all sitting. around like the when they're when we're. doing table reads, everyone's laughing, cracking jokes, they're adding lines. >> Good times. >> Good times. >> And that's how you make the best stuff. >> It's the best stuff.

>> when it's loose and playful and fun and. everybody can be creative and there's no. weirdness there. >> The enemy of comedy is tension always. like the the tension you have between. like co-workers like yeah. >> this is like you know Phil Hartman told. me that Saturday Night Live was like the. most stressful thing that he ever did in. his life because there was so much. tension because they would everybody. behind the scene was backstabbing. everybody. >> That's nuts. >> And Brewer says the same thing. You ever. heard Brewer talk about. >> Brewer is a good dude, man. >> He's the best. >> He's really a good guy. >> I was on the road with him a little bit. He's a really good guy and and very like.

the quintessential theater act. Like you. see you see him in a theater. I go watch. him after I was done with my set and. it's like. >> he fills the space. Yes. >> You know what I mean? He's a great. theater act, >> right? He's a big act, >> right? Like the big stage is actually. great for his act, but he murders in. clubs. He'll murder in an arena. He's. he's a old school. He's a great person, too. Like what I what I love about him. is like he had no desire to be like. super famous. No desire. All he wanted. to do is kill.

>> All he want to do is be great at comedy. and just live in his own world. He lived. in Jersey in a nice suburban community. Just chilled. Didn't need fancy cars or. any [ __ ] He just just loves being. funny. >> I love that. I love the the idea of just. like waking up every day and it's like. how can I be better? >> Yeah, that's You know who's the best at. that? >> Atel. >> And maybe the best comic alive and maybe. one of the I mean for in my book top. five, top six of all time. >> Yes, for sure. >> And he's effortless. Effortless. But.

he's always working on his act, which is. kind of torturous. >> It's a torturous thing if you're if. you're always tinker. You're always. working on it. And it's like it's never. done. It's always like you're in the. mix. You're like, I don't know. And it's. like. >> I get you love if that's what you love. to do, then it's great. It's like you. have to teach yourself that that's what. you love to do, right? Instead of like, God, I can't wait till this hour is. ready. Like right now, I I really only. have like 40 minutes. Maybe I could do. 45. I could do like 45 minutes, which is.

like a year after my special, but once. you get it down, it's. >> it's sloppy. There's some [ __ ] in there. that like needs some work. >> But then you have like even if you're. going to go back and make corrections on. it, you have the scaffolding for it, which is very important. It's like the. scaffolding. It's like that kind of hard. stuff is done. Not that new stuff won't. come in, it might still come in, but you. have the scaffolding for it now. Now, >> that's exactly how I describe it. I'm so. glad you said it that way. That's what. all joke structure is. It's like. scaffolding and then inside you put the.

funny. >> Like you have to have a premise, a thing. you think is ridiculous and then that's. your scaffolding and then it's all your. perspectives on it. >> Right. Right. >> You know who is the best at that? >> Richard Jenny. >> I was just thinking about him this. morning. I was just thinking about him. in terms of a comic that I don't know if. you knew him or not, but like I watched. him as a kid and he blew me away. >> with how good he was. He was so good. And then I talked to Atell in New York. He's like he was the guy. >> He was the guy. He was really the guy. >> in the 1980s. He was the guy. I've I. apologize if you've heard me tell the.

story before people, but uh he worked at. Eastside Comedy Club and uh he was there. for the weekend and I went there on. Sunday and uh this dude Pete who was the. uh MC was depressed. I go, "Why are you. depressed?" He goes, "Cuz Richard Jenny. did a totally different hour both shows. Friday and both shows Saturday. Never. repeated a joke and [ __ ] murdered.". And he goes, "And I want to quit. comedy." That's insane. That's insane. Yeah. People like that will frustrate. you. >> Yeah. >> You know, as a comic, but watching him. as a kid, I was like, "This is the Cuz. we're Italians.".

>> Y, >> so watching it as But he's funny no. matter what. >> But just especially from being an. Italian family and watching him, I'm. like, "This is the funniest thing." We. were D. We'd quote him. >> He was so good. >> He was so good. And you had to see him. live. It's one of those things like you. see, he's got some great specials. Uh, A. Steaming Pile of Me is great. >> Um, >> Platypus Man, >> that's great. >> His first one was The Boy from New York. City. >> That's great, too. It's a great one. He. has that Jaws story about being on the. road and being so bored and watching the. movie Jaws. Jaws just hits you with the.

face with how stupid it is. It's such a. great bit and it's so punched up all the. way through. And I I just I absolutely. love that. >> He was the best what I was getting at as. maximizing the scaffolding. He would. take a bit and he would find every. possible angle and right when you. thought he was done, he it would get. funnier. It would go deeper and funnier. and more ridiculous. be call backs and. >> he was so good, but he [ __ ] hated the. fact that he wasn't Jim Carrey. He hated. the fact that he wasn't a movie star. We. all need to take our health seriously.

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know what I mean? It's not that good. >> and the network's not getting any eyes. >> Exactly. It but it was okay. You know it. lasted a little bit and then he did the. mask with Jim Carrey. He did some other. stuff but. >> he was good in that. He's a good actor. He's a good actor, but he didn't have. the classic good looks that would not. that you need him. Like look at Rodney. He didn't have it either, right? >> Or John Love didn't have it either, but. it's like he wanted to be a movie star. and he was bummed out that he was on the. road all the time. And I would uh every. time I would do radio, you know, there. was always like the guy that would drive. you and I would be like, "Who's the most. miserable [ __ ] you ever have to drive?".

And they all said Richard Jen. Oh my. god. They all said that. I No. It was. me. It was like a stake in my heart. No, he's the best. There's got to be an. opposite. >> If you're the funniest guy, like there's. got to be an opposite to that. >> Exactly. There's a there's a there's a. disdain and an anger, a frustration, but. it led him to be a [ __ ] genius. comedian, man. >> And no one talks about him anymore. I. don't feel like I don't feel like anyone. talks about him anymore. >> I try to carry the torch. I really do. cuz he affected me a lot when I was a.

kid. I remember I used to kind of I one. time I was an open micer and I I found. myself I physically got sick. I was. like, "Oh no, I sounded exactly like him. on stage." Like I was copying him. I was. like, "Oh, no. Don't do that." But it. was just cuz I loved him so much. I was. such a fan. >> But as soon as that happens, it's go it. goes, "I got to stop listening to this. guy. I got to get away from him. I got. to stop listening to him.". >> Exactly. Exactly. But it was just I just. wanted to be him. I wanted I admired him. so much. I wanted to be like him. >> But that's such a great thing with the. scaffolding and it's like punched up all.

the way through and then just walking up. there and knowing it's like I'm about to. let this loose on this crowd. And it's. like watching them react to it. It's. like they're doubled over and you just. keep coming at it's like when you're. fight if you're fighting somebody like a. boxer like a Pacquiao. >> in his prime where he'd turn you he'd. hit you three times turn you hit you. three times turn you and then hit you. three more and you're like on you're. like I can't I can't move. Like there's. no defense to this. >> So that's what that's what like that is. like is like just keep coming with.

punches punches punches punches and um. >> it's unreal. I love a big chunk like. that. Like one of my favorite bits of. the last few years, Brian Simpson has. this bit about the song Wet Ass [ __ ]. but it goes all the way back to Queen. Elizabeth. It's like this amazing long. bit. I don't want to ruin it, but the. end of it is [ __ ] he wraps it up with. a bow. It's his closer. It's so good. I. would like leave the green room when I. knew he was going to close just so I. could watch the wet ass [ __ ] I would. ask him to do it, please. I go, "Please.

do the wet ass [ __ ] bit. Please." cuz. it was such a it's like a pol, but. Brian's a real writer. Like Brian sits. down and writes, which is one of the. things that I always try to tell young. guys. I'm like, I know you like to write. on stage. I know you write when you're. with your friends. I know you come up. with great premises and you work them. out on stage, but that extra step of. sitting down and writing is [ __ ]. critical, man. It's big. >> Yeah, >> it's big cuz you can get stuff there. that you wouldn't get, >> right? And it's got to be a routine. >> Yep. It's like get up, do whatever you.

do, stretch, and then uh that's what I. do now is like stretch and then delay. coffee. That's another big thing I'm. trying is to delay coffee. Get cuz the. gym is in the building. Get a workout. first right out of bed and then uh and. then come back up, cold shower, and then. get a cup of coffee and then write. >> do that cold shower first, dude. Do that. cold shower right away. And then you. won't even need the coffee. You'll be. like, "Yeah, >> and then right into a workout.".

>> And then go right into a workout. >> And then a hot shower after. >> Sure. Yeah. I do sauna after the. workout. That's what I usually do. >> That's great. >> Yeah, that's the most. >> I used to do steam room when I was at. the gym. >> Steam room's okay, but the problem with. steam room is you really can't get it as. hot because dry air won't like scald. your skin like wet. Wet air will poach. you. >> If you do 195 degrees wet, you're gonna. get burned. literally poach, >> but you can do 195 in a sauna. And. that's why I don't know much about the.

infrared saunas. I don't think there's. the same amount of data on them. It's. definitely better than doing nothing. But I think that the real sauna, like we. have a saloo sauna in the back here. That [ __ ] will go up to 210 215. if you wanted to. >> Wow. >> And but that dry sauna is where all the. research from Finland comes out. They. they did over 20 years they found that. if you do the sauna four times a week. for 20 minutes at 175 degrees it's a 40%. decrease in all cause mortality.

>> Didn't they do that? It was a study in. Italy study of Italians who were doing. sauna and and it it was something. similar to that. >> It's all similar because it's all great. for reduction of inflammation, increase. of red blood cells. It has like a mild. EPO effect on your endurance. M like one. of the things that I've done like every. time I've been injured where I couldn't. do cardio, I just did sauna every day. and then I'd go back to cardio and it. was not that much of a drop off. Not. like it used to be. Like it used to be. like if I got hurt, >> I couldn't hit the bag. I couldn't do. cardio for a while and then I would go.

back to doing it like, "Oh god, I'm so. out of shape.". >> Yeah. >> So that drop off doesn't happen as much, not nearly as much if you do sauna every. day. And all like the Eastern Dan Gable. told me that that was something that he. learned in his wrestling days. >> Wow. that all the Eastern Block guys. were all doing sauna after training and. it's essentially like static cardio. So. like I wear a Whoop strap and I'll go in. the sauna after training and I'll look. at my app and I'm at 145 beats per. minute just sitting there because I'll. go straight from working out. So like.

I'll do rounds on the bag and then heart. rate elevated go right in the sauna and. it keeps your heart rate up. Wow. >> Because you're [ __ ] struggling. You're struggling. and your body's. because it's already overheated from the. workout and then your body's in 195° and. your heart's just pounding, but it's. like static cardio. >> That's really something. >> It's really good for you. And then I. stretch in there, which is the best. >> That is great to stretch. I used to do. Bickrim, >> you know. >> Oh, that's great. >> Yeah, I used to do it and I want to get. back into it now that I'm not paying for. a gym.

>> That's what you should do. That's what. you should do. >> I want to do that and I want to go back. to boxing. I used to do boxing. Bunch of. comics. went to boxing in New York and. we took a class together a little bit to. the body. >> but nothing you know we just he just. took us through the training and. >> I mean I wrestled a little bit in. college and I got to say it's the. training was very very that's why I. liked it. It was very very tough. Very. hard. >> Boxing's tough. >> Yeah. I mean but you know but the a lot. of the boxing training for civilians. isn't. >> but this guy his name is Steve Frank. he. uh put us through it and it's like it's.

it was he was like would not let up. after after an hour you're like oh my. god it's like you got to get used to you. can't be on the road too much cuz you. got to get used to it because if you. don't get used to it then it shoots your. whole day. >> you're exhausted for the rest of the day. it's like I can't do any spots I get you. know. >> yeah shape you that's like I I always. avoid doing leg days on days I do stand. up and I've done it before where I've. done leg days then I then I go on stage. that night and I'm always is like. struggling. It's like it's just too.

hard. It's too much of a burden on your. entire system. >> Right. Right. >> You know, squats and lunges and pulling. the sled and all that [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> At the end of. >> it feels good. Like the suffering is uh. it's like a Gogggins thing where it's. like this suffering like put yourself in. an uncomfortable situation every day and. then when you come out of it, >> it just feels so good. >> I try to tell that to everybody. I'm. like, I know it sucks, but please do it. It'll make the rest of your life suck. less. It really will. And you don't have. to do what I do. You could just I mean,

just put a weighted vest on and go walk. around your block. You don't have to do. much. It's not that hard. You just have. to do something. >> Just do something that sucks. Yeah. >> Do 100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, 100 body. weightight squats every day. Do that. >> It's not that hard. Do it in sets of If. you can't do 20, do it in sets of 10. Just do 10 sets of 10 for the push-ups. Build up to it. Start. >> Tell yourself you're going to do 20. today, 20 this week. Next week you're. going to do 25. Then before you know it, you're doing 100, >> right? And just do that. Just do [ __ ]. something. >> Something.

>> Yeah. And you feel so good after it. That's the whole thing. And that's the. time I try to time it with when I'm. writing. >> because it's like you want to feel all. you want to feel that energy while. you're writing. >> Yeah. I do my best writing late at. night. I do my best writing when. everyone's asleep. >> That's another secret where it's like. the guys who write after the set. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yeah. That's that's a where it's like. I'm done. I'm going to watch some I'm. going to deescalate now and go to sleep. Especially on the road, you're doing an. hour, two shows, you're doing an hour or. two shows, and then you come back, you're like, "All right, I want to de I.

traveled all day. I want to deescalate. to go to sleep." It's like, you know, trick yourself a little bit. Go, let me. just look at these notes. >> Yeah. >> Let me just look at the notes that I. have on the set that I just did. >> It doesn't suck. That's the crazy thing. about it. It doesn't suck to do. It's. not like you hate it. It's not like. painful. No. >> But you avoid it. You avoid. >> it. Yeah. >> Yeah. You avoid it cuz you're like, "Now. I did it. I'm done. I want to go to. sleep." It's like, nah, just take. another just check in on it. Just check. in on the act. >> Even 20 minutes, you might yield one of. your best punchlines. It just like every.

now and then, like the universe will. reward you if you put in that work. >> Yeah. >> You sit down and put in that work. Yeah. >> I think that's with [ __ ] everything. in the world. Everything. I was watching. this video today on Usyk's training on. Alexander Usyk who's just Did you see. that fight? Best Jesus Christ, dude. I. mean, he's one of the best of all time. One of the absolute best heavyweights. that's ever lived. The thing that was. remarkable about, and I agree, the thing. that's remarkable about that fight is. Dubois came out the first round and was. aggressive. And I'm like, "Oh, right. Dubis is.

>> [ __ ] dangerous. >> It's coming, dude." And he like, "This. is an opportunity and I'm not I'm not. going to lose it." I'm like, and uh Usyk. felt that. They said between rounds, he. felt it and he's like, "Okay, >> okay. I can't let this guy get. confidence.". >> Yeah. >> So, he stepped in the center of the ring. and just started countering him and not. giving up any more ground. >> Yeah. and and cutting these angles these. like he just downloads what you're doing. and starts adding in faints and you know. Joshua said that when he trained when he. fought him rather that at the last round.

he had never been more tired in his. life. He just couldn't believe how tired. Usyk makes you cuz he's constantly. fainting and moving. So I watched this. uh his training routine today. Jesus. Christ, man. Like no wonder he's in. insane shape. He would swim sometimes. for five hours a day. five hours of just. laps in the pool. He would do he starts. his day at 4:30 in the morning. So 4:30. in the morning, he gets up, eats. breakfast, and has his first training at. 5. At 5, it's all conditioning. It's all.

like running, rowing, biking, takes a. break, eats again, takes a little nap, back in the gym again, like two hours, and then he's sparring, boxing, doing. all that workout. then eats, takes a. break, relaxes a little bit. Evening. session is boxing. And evening session, he's sparring. He's, you know, he's. hitting mits. He's hitting the bag. Gets. up in the morning and does it all over. again. And it's like it's all like this. That's that reverse that I was just.

showing. That's crazy. That's crazy. >> That's the machine that Louis Simmons. created that is [ __ ] phenomenal for. your lower back. It decompresses your. back actively on the down swing and. strengthens it on the upswing. And. Louie, who is a genius, who was one of. the only guys we ever traveled to do a. podcast with. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. I was like, I I got to get this. guy on film. He's he's a like a. legitimate strength genius. >> And uh he developed that machine because. he had a bulging disc. And they were. like, "Oh, you got to get your disc.

fused." Cuz he was a powerlifter, [ __ ] complete maniac, complete. psychopath on steroids his whole life. He was amazing person. And uh he was. like that doesn't make any sense if. compression is what the problem was. decompression will fix it and he divi. devised that machine to actively. decompress on the down swing. So. strengthening all the tissue around that. and then decompressing it on the down. swing. >> Wow. That makes he must have had like a. Did he have some kind of an engineering. background? All he must have to to. create that.

>> Yes. There's Louis the [ __ ] man. >> to create that thing. Such. >> a fun guy to talk to too. He's just such. a [ __ ] psychopath. an intelligent. psychopath. Look at his back. >> Westside rules. >> My god. >> Swords and knives and [ __ ]. >> Just a fun fun dude. But genius when it. came to strength and conditioning. I. mean he so many guys like um. >> uh MMA fighters went and trained with. him. Matt the Immortal Brown did a lot. of training with him and then you know.

used a lot of his stuff with you know. Matt sells equipment now too. It's a lot. of the stuff that he he worked on with. Louis, >> right? >> But it's like, you know, he'd have all. these guys that were like these world. champion lifters. I mean, these guys are. [ __ ]. >> gorillas. Gorillas, man. >> Big shaved head gorillas. >> But Louie was the man. >> This episode's brought to you by Rocket. Money. Financial freedom, when you get. down to it, is not worrying about money. But with prices these days, that's. easier said than done. However, when you. take control of your finances, when you.

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specifically for that. But Usyk's. training a lot of it is like um. ladderboard you know on the ground you. know the ladder where you're doing the. steps. >> It's like constant shuffling back and. forth spinning. It's all these punches. with medicine balls. It's like when you. watch him train, it makes sense because. he's training specifically to move. differently than everybody else does. It's all these constant movements and. switches and angles and strength. And. >> you know, he's a legit heavyweight now.

He's 227 for the DW fight. >> And you know, this is coming from a guy. who was the undisputed cruiserweight. champion. >> So, he's a small heavyweight, but. >> the best heavyweights were small except. for Foreman and a couple other guys like. Tyson was small. Ali was not big. He's. exactly the same size as Ali when Ali. when his was in his prime. >> Holyfield. >> Holyfield was Holyfield came this but he. unified like he unified that. cruiserweight division like he didn't. get any gifts. Nope. >> There he went around and unified it and. then moved up. >> and and then unified.

>> I mean it's just what was the um how. many weeks is that training camp? >> Oh, I don't know. I mean it has to be. three months plus. I mean, I would. imagine the most difficult opponent for. him is Tyson Fury because Tyson Fury is. 6'9. He is an incredible boxer. He's one. of the best boxers of all time in. regardless of any division. Just. skillful. Tyson Fury is a skillful. boxer. He's slick and intelligent. And. you know, people talk about like what's. next for Usyk? Should it be Joseph. Parker? Yeah, that would be a great.

fight. Joseph Parker deserves it. But. what I want to see before the [ __ ]. the hay is in the barn, >> I want to see one more. One more Tyson. because Fury is the only one that's. given him problems. The only one that. came close. He hurt him to the body a. bunch of times this fight. He was. lighting him up with a jab. You know, those fights were close. >> They were very close. >> They were close. I mean, Usyk almost. stopped him in the first fight. >> in I think it was the ninth round. He. could have and he pulled back when the. referee was like calling it a knockdown. where he could have caught him one or.

two more times and that would have. probably been that would have been a. wrap. But other than that, like no one. has given Usyk the problem that Tyson. Fury's given him. And I think you give. Tyson one more shot at it where I mean, he's training now. I know he's posting. up a lot of stuff about his times. Like. he's doing a lot of endurance work now. And. >> so he's gearing up. >> Have a fight before. He's got to have. another fight. No. No. Right into the. [ __ ] Come on, man. This guy's a. veteran. He's been doing it forever. Right into the fury. Right into the. fire, rather. >> See, I want to see Fury and Joshua.

That's an all England. Oh, I'd love to. see that, too. I'd love to see that, too. >> That would sell out like Wembley. >> Well, they're talking about doing. >> They were supposed to fight many times a. long time ago. It kept, you know, they. were supposed to fight. They thought. they were on a, you know, and the money. was never right or something, but what. now with like Turkey Alashik in the mix, you know? >> Well, it would if they decided to do. Parker versus Usyk, which is a great. fight. >> I think that would be the fight that. they would have underneath. It would be. that would be amazing. Tyson and Joshua. But they're talking right now about. doing Anthony Joshua Jake Paul.

>> I know. I saw that. >> Jake Paul apparently wants that fight. And he he agreed to I think it was 99%. to one where Joshua gets 99% of the. money and he gets 1%. >> See if that's true. >> That's what I I believe I read that. online. >> That might be just some shenanigans. But. look, regardless of what you think about. Jake Paul, like. >> I think Jake Paul's a great athlete. >> Oh, for sure. >> He's a great athlete. Uh I don't know if. him or Logan placed in states in Ohio in.

wrestling. Like you're not that may seem. like nothing to people on a national. level, but if you're placing in states. in Ohio, they're both great athletes. Both of them are great athletes. People. think they're jokes because they were. famous when they were kids and they were. that doesn't mean anything. Yeah. >> Like Mario Lopez, people look at Mario. Lopez like Mario Lopez is like saved by. the bell guy. No, Mario Lopez can box. He does Brazilian jiu-jitsu. He's a very. good wrestler. I don't know if you've. ever seen that guy that does uh I'll. give you $1,000 if you could take me. down. Have you ever seen that guy? I. love that guy. I love that guy.

>> That guy's from my high school in Ohio. >> What is his name? >> I don't know. Something Greek. But like. uh he he's a guy who he was a Ohio State. champ and maybe a runner up his senior. year. And then he went to Cleveland. State. >> and and was just a guy who was like I. don't think he did anything in college. really. the way he wrestles. I could see by the. way he wrestles and it's a it's a good. uh video series. It's just like very. smooth. Very smooth. He's very very. talented. >> Oh, he's super talented. Point is Mario.

Lopez wrestled him. >> and gave him a [ __ ] great scramble. It's really a bunch of great roles. A. bunch. Like Mario Lopez is legit. Like. really legit. And you could say, "Fuck. the Save by the Bell [ __ ] I'll [ __ ]. smack him." That dude will [ __ ] you up, man. You can say all that until you get into. it with him. >> Giorgio Polus. >> That's his name. That's Shout out to. Giorgio. He's a bad [ __ ] cuz. that guy wrestles dudes way bigger than. him. Check out this Mario one. So, by. the way, Mario Lopez in his in his. [ __ ] 50s. He's in his He's in his.

50s. >> Now, watch. Scoot ahead a little so you. can see some of this. Scoot ahead so you There we go. Mario. can [ __ ] wrestle, dude. like legit. wrestle and scramble and avoid. takedowns. Oh, you got him there. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Look at this. >> Mario shoots in on a single. Like that's. some good SC and again in his [ __ ]. 50s, man. >> That's great. >> He's also competing in jiu-jitsu and I. know he's won jiu-jitsu matches.

>> Like these are good [ __ ] scrambles, man. >> Legit. >> Yeah. I love it. I love watching this. series, too. No, the dude's good. And he's he's done. it with some national champions and a. bunch of. >> He always does an interview beforehand. It's like what discipline are you from? How many years? And then he's like, "What do you from 1 to 10?" 10 being. you're going to take me down. What do. you think that the odds are that you. take me down? >> A lot of them say 10. >> A lot of them say 10, dude. And some of. them are really big guys. You know what. I mean? It just goes to show you it's. like.

>> Yeah. >> He that guy's tough and he's a. technician. >> Well, that's the whole thing about. grappling is technique. It's everything. It's everything. It's in jiu-jitsu and. and judo and everything. It's just about. technique. There's this great old judo. clip of this guy. I mean, I want to say. he was in his 70s at the time and uh. it's a black and white film of all his. younger black belts rolling with him. like doing standing I don't know what. they call it, standing judo practice. And he's like effortlessly avoiding.

these takedowns with balance and. technique. It doesn't ever look like. he's like exploding or really using a. lot of force. >> and just flips these guys to the ground. It's gorgeous to watch. It's just like. my goodness. Cuz you know, you're. looking at that guy like there's no that. guy's not a brute. He's not some big. giant 200lb muscled up [ __ ] super. athlete that you just. >> he's just technique. Just beautiful. technique. >> And and it's also it's also it's very. loose. >> Yeah. >> See if you can find that Jamie. It's. like old judo guy trains with younger.

students and it's old. It's like black. and white. >> I got the Jake Paul. There's a lot of. rumors that it says that 1991 was. accepted on his side, but I can't find. like where he said it. I just like a lot. of Instagram. >> Maybe he doesn't care about the money. Like Jake Paul like probably doesn't. care about the money. >> Plenty of money. And if he won, oh my. god, if he if he beat Anthony Joshua, good lord. >> Good lord. I mean that's a big if, right? Anthony Joshua, Olympic gold. medalist, former heavyweight champion of.

the world. What he did to Francis Enanu, like good lord, >> do you want that smoke? >> Yeah. I just think it's all about the. promotion or whatever. I have no idea. what the actual motivation is for that. fight's not competitive at all. >> Well, it's a dangerous fight cuz Joshua. is going to try to make an example out. of him for sure. >> And Will. >> And Will. I mean, Anthony Joshua is one. of the biggest one punch KO artists. ever. >> Yes. >> I mean, he's a one punch [ __ ] night. guy, >> you know? He's a great boxer, you know, very skillful. >> Yeah. The Naganu fight we all thought. it's like Nanu with Fury. It's like,

wow, this guy's in the mix now. He's in. the mix. Let's let's see what happens. It's like, oh, okay, >> that's what happened. >> The difference is Fury, I think, underestimated him. >> Yeah, >> I think Fury took him super lightly. He. thought he was going to box his face. off. And that power that Francis has is. legendary. You know, Francis is like a. character from a comic book, you know? I. mean, he lived in Cameroon and he worked. in the sand mines when he was a boy. It's like the Conan origin story, right? Like digging sand as a boy. Just [ __ ].

>> Well, hopefully he got paid. He got paid. for it. >> Here's the guy. Like, check out this old. dude. And I think this dude, look at. this [ __ ] bro. I think this dude might. have been 90 at the time. I'm not. kidding. I don't know what how old he. is. How old does it say he is, Jamie? >> Doesn't say. >> he's old as [ __ ] However old he is, he's at least 70 and he looks to me like. he's even older than that. Look at how. he just look how he's avoiding this. That's so like so relaxed, man. Just the. size of the guy that's trying to throw.

him who's a judo black belt who's. towering over him. >> Look at this, bro. Effortless. >> I love that. >> Effortless takedowns. >> Yeah, >> but it's Look at this guy. Like this guy. hitting that hip throw and not getting. any movement off that old dude at all. >> Right. >> And it's Look, the old dude's tiny. >> It's a tiny guy. And everything he does. is just super relaxed. He just knows. where to be, where you can't throw him. Look, look. Steps in the right position. He's not exploding. He just anticipates. your movements and meets you there. It's.

like judo when you w Look at that, man. >> I mean, he just threw a dude that's. twice his size. He throws him like. effortless. >> It's kind of amazing, man. >> It is. >> And you know, if and you would think. it's [ __ ] unless you've trained with. a guy like that and then you go, "Wow, this is nuts, man. It's just perfect. like execution of that kind of. technique, >> right? >> You know, >> it's unreal. >> And when you see in wrestling too, it's. like you see guys who they chain moves. together and as the guy's trying to do.

that this they're countering with this. and next thing you know they're on your. back and you're down like my god. >> such a underappreciated thing wrestling. you know in terms of like the way we. appreciate. >> it too. I mean, I wrestled, but I was. never that. I was never like could get. that fluid, right? >> You know what I mean? That fluid, it's. really the guys who are like topnotch. It doesn't matter what program you come. from. It's like you could see it. You. could see with this guy, Giorgio, like. he has it. It's like the flow like he'll. shoot for something and if that doesn't.

he'll he'll see where the leg and he'll. he'll adjust on the fly. It's like the. improv of it is amazing. >> Yeah. It's it's a really. underappreciated sport in terms of like. the way the public perceives sports. Everybody loves basketball. Everybody. loves baseball. We love all these sports. and no one appreciates wrestling. So, it. never had a professional outlet for. whatever dumb reason other than MMA. where where it dominates. If you look at. MMA, like if you look at all the if the. disciplines of all the champions of all.

time, I think wrestling has a. significant lead. I think there's more. athletes that came from wrestling that. became world champions than any other. discipline. Well, before everybody. started cross trainining, I think our. training was the model. I might be. wrong, but like our training like. wrestling practice was very hard. >> When I was in like an even in eighth. grade, I was like this is un. unbelievably harder than anything I've. ever experienced. >> So, I think everybody crossrains now. Everybody kind of trains like that, but. we were the first where it's like you. get in, it's like you warm up and it's.

it's just military like. >> in its execution of practice. practice, you're just wiped out at the end of. practice and then you have to cut weight. after that. >> So then it's mental strength on top of. that. That's a giant factor with. wrestling. And one of the things about. wrestlers is they. revel in the fact that they suffer more. than anybody else. >> Yes. >> They they like take it as a badge of. courage, right? >> They It's like a badge of honor that. they'll display. Like Mike over there, he [ __ ] suffers more than anybody. That's why he wins. Mike's a psycho.

He's up at 3:00 in the morning eating. raw eggs, you know? Like those are the. guys that everyone was scared of. >> But very few people have said wrestling. is fun. Like basketball is fun. No one. who's wrestled seriously is like, "Oh, it's fun." It's like it's not fun. >> No. >> Like the the training is not fun. It's. it's painful and it's. >> only fun if the guy you're wrestling. sucks. >> and you train a lot. >> That that moment will winning is great. >> Oh yeah. >> But you know uh the actual process of.

going to I got to practice like I got to. cut weight. Yeah, but it's one of the. best character developers for young men. >> Absolutely. >> You know, the guys that I meet that are. former wrestlers, competitive wrestlers, they're just a different kind of human. being. >> It's like military guys, like guys. who've been through like Navy Seal. training or there's a different kind of. human. >> Yeah. >> Like you're going to you're dealing with. a guy who can get through some [ __ ] that. the average person is going to fold up. under. >> And if you can learn how to do that and. overcome that desire to quit when you're.

a kid, >> h it's so valuable. It's so valuable for. the rest of your life. >> Absolutely. And and it helps if you're. not very good. >> Yeah. Right. >> If you're also if you're like on the. fence and you have to work for. everything, it's like cuz you're coming. you're coming across all kinds of. adversity and stuff and then you have to. figure out and you know I can speak from. experience. It's embarrassing to get. pinned in a gym full of people. It's not. like losing a basketball game. Even. football I love the camaraderie of. football. It's not losing a football. game. Having your shoulder blades pinned. down in front of everybody in a.

gymnasium is. >> against your will. >> Hum against your will. It's like, >> yeah, it's totally humiliating. >> And the reality about fighting is if a. guy can hold you down, he can beat you. up. That's just how it works. >> This guy who's my same weight can pretty. much do whatever he wants to me. >> Oh yeah. So. >> yeah, it's And. >> take that home with you. And when you go. up when I wrestled, I remember the. difference between like regular guys. that would wrestle like you know in. meets you know you Malden Massachusetts. would wrestle against Newton and you.

know we go to travel with them. The. difference between that and then getting. in there with like a state champion it's. like oh okay this is like and then you. hear these guys go to camps every summer. and it's 247 365 they're always. wrestling. There's no like wrestling. season. I'm like oh I never catch up. It's so funny because when you're in a. guy, you're in with a guy who's really. good. You're mentally preparing. yourself. It's like, I just got to take. it to him. I just got to take it to him. I just got to go out there and be. aggressive and take it to him. And then. he's moving so fast that you're like, I. just. >> I can't keep I can't keep up with this.

guy. >> Yeah. You have no chance. And most. people have no idea how helpless they. are against a wrestler. There's a. horrible street fight video that I. watched the other day where this guy. they they square off in the street. And. this guy um takes a swing at this guy. and this guy shoots in with a double, hoist this dude up into the air and. powers slams him on his head on the. concrete and then punches him in the. face a couple times while he's. completely unconscious. Then his buddies. jump on him and it's a [ __ ] melee. >> Thank God for that. >> Yeah. Well, I think. >> the buddy's pulling him off. >> I don't I don't I think even that alone,

man, you get a real powerful wrestler. slams you on your head. I mean, that's. >> you might not live. I don't know what. happened to that guy, but I looked at. that. I'm like, that guy could be dead. Guys get guys die all the time from. getting knocked out in street fights. where they fall. >> hitting their head. Yeah, >> that's how they die. >> Yeah, >> but that's another video. It's like what. happens afterwards. >> Did you see that video from uh there was. a Cleveland jazz festival? >> Cincinnati. >> Cincinnati. Y. >> Cincinnati Jazz Festival where this. couple got jumped and this guy got.

beaten down and kicked and then the girl. was trying to separate it and this guy. punches the girl and KO's her and she. falls and bangs her head on the ground. and she's out cold with her eyes open. It's [ __ ] horrifying. >> Yeah, it's horrible to watch. >> And people are like screaming and. cheering, kick his ass. And. unfortunately it's a bunch of black. people jumping two white people so it's. even. >> more uh problematic. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. It's it's a horrible video, man, of the worst aspects of human nature. This [ __ ] desire to beat people up.

for no re I don't I mean I don't know. what the reason was. I don't know what. happened, >> right? Those things are hard to watch. You have to watch like uh cute pet. videos after that in order to get. yourself back, you know, like a dog who. befriends her cat. >> I mean, there's a man punched a woman. right in the face and knocked her. unconscious and she bangs her head off. the ground. Her eyes are out wide open. Oh, it's [ __ ] horrible, man. That. kind of [ __ ] could affect you for the. rest of your life. You might not ever be. the same. >> Like traumatic brain injuries like that,

there's people that never come back from. those, >> right? That's nuts. >> It's nuts, man. >> You just can't go out. >> [ __ ] you can't. >> Well, especially if it's a if it's a. one-on-one fight, it's like I don't I. don't like that whole the shit-talking. back and forth. It's like [ __ ] you, no. [ __ ] you. It's like, okay, are we going. to What's going to happen here? Like. enough of this. Are we going to fight? Is this a fight now or like what? Let's. just do it and then get it over with. You know, >> one-on-one fights are stupid. They get. you killed. >> You know, it's people don't play by.

rules. It's it's dumb. It's almost. always unnecessary. Just most people, it's just their ego gets involved and. they think they're in a [ __ ] movie, >> right? >> You know, and the amount of people that. get in street fights that have. >> no training to me is the craziest. I've. watched so many videos where guys don't. know what they're doing at all, >> right? They're just uh Yeah, you're. right. The ego gets involved in it. They're they're in an argument and that. transitions over into physical, but I. think half the guys. >> maybe don't think it's going to go into.

the physical. They're just like good at. [ __ ] talking. Yeah. You got to don't do. that. >> And and sometimes it doesn't and that's. good. You know what I mean? Or whatever. But like I mean when it does and you're. not ready for it, it's can be terrible. >> It's the worst thing in the world. Yeah. I was w there was a a comic, I don't. want to say his name, but he was a real. angry dude who always yelled at people. and he got in this like yelling. altercation with this [ __ ] guy and. and I pulled him aside. I go, "Hey, what. the [ __ ] are you doing, man? Do you even. know how to fight?" He's like, "No, no.

Have you I'm like, "Have you ever been. in a fight?" He's like, "No, no." I go, "Well, why why are you calling this guy. out to fight? This is crazy. Like, you're going to get killed. You're going. to do it with some guy one day and he's. going to go, "Oh, this is going to be. fun. >> This guy, oh, I finally get a chance to. beat the [ __ ] out of somebody." some. boxer or something is going to just beat. your [ __ ] face in, man. Like, don't. do that. >> Yeah, >> you you want your jaw wired shut for 6. months. Like, what are you talking. about? >> Especially with the health insurance. companies these days, >> bro. >> You never know what they're going to. cover and what they're not going to not.

cover. >> How crazy is that? Did you see the Ben. as thing? >> Yeah. >> How crazy is that? >> It's nuts, man. >> The guy needs a double lung transfer. >> I mean, how can that How can that. >> not be covered? How can that not be. covered? >> How can that happen in our society, man? >> Exactly. >> Like, what's going on? It's profit over. [ __ ] humanity. >> But how is it allowed to legally How are. they legally I don't know the ins and. the outs of it, but like the legally. allowed to to be like, "No, we're not. covering that." You know? It's just like. a like the idea of a pre-existing. condition was nuts to me. >> What kind of pre-existing condition? I.

mean, he's got health insurance. He gets. sick. Like, what are you talking about? He got pneumonia. He's got holes in his. [ __ ] lungs, right? >> He needs double lung transplant. And you. say, "No, you have to die.". >> Meanwhile, he gets the lung transplant. I I think actually Jake Paul donated a. bunch of money to it and some other. folks did too. >> Um which is great cuz Jake Paul actually. fought him in the past. They had a. boxing match together which should have. never taken place. >> Jake flatlined him. >> Oh, did he really? Terrible. >> That Askin is super tough man.

>> Yeah, he's a very tough guy. He's not a. boxer. He's never been known for having. good hands. He was an amazing wrestler. >> Yes. >> But uh Jake's stepped up and paid a big. chunk of his uh his medical bills. >> That's awesome. So, he's training now. again. He's posting videos and he's, you. know, he weighs like 135 pounds right. now and he's got this giant scar across. his chest and his arms are like sticks. and and he's, you know, on the bike. working out again and Ben's trying to. put weight back on and very. >> just trying to rehab to Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Trying to get his body back on,

>> you know. >> Yeah. But I saw the I didn't watch the. whole videos, but his face looks really. >> crazy. Yeah. Yeah, >> he lost like 35 lbs, >> you know, and he was there for months. just rotting away. >> It's just crazy. >> He was a super tough He was a super. super tough wrestler. >> Oh, dude. The Bellator days, if you go. back and watch him in the Bellator days, he would just dominate guys. They would. have no clue as to what he was doing. He. would take some of the best fighters in. the world and as soon as he grabbed a. hold of them, they were [ __ ]. >> And that guy had like was known to have. a motor. He would never get tired.

>> Yeah. >> He wrestled at Missouri. I think. >> my friend Greg Warren was an all He's a. great comic. Greg Warren. >> I know Greg. >> You know Greg? >> I work with Greg back in the day. >> Unbelievable. Funny dude. >> And uh you know I wrestled and. everything but he was Greg was an. all-American. >> Yeah. He was a real legit wrestler. >> Yeah. And uh he knows Askin. >> Oh, okay. >> And um I met him at nationals one year. >> I always wanted Askin to fight in the. UFC long before he did. And. unfortunately, I think like he did sort. of the prime of his career in Bellator.

and no one got a chance to see it, >> right? >> Because that was when he was at his best. when he was fighting guys like Douglas. Lima, who was another guy who people. forgot because he was fighting so much. in Bellator, but he was one of the best. welterweights ever. He was one of the. only guys to knock out MVP. >> Wow. >> Douglas Lee is a [ __ ] beast, man. And. Ben Asin got a hold of him and just. raged all. >> No kidding. >> Yeah. Korskov, another guy. killer. [ __ ] nasty spinning back kick. He was. nasty. Nasty striker. Ragd doll. Ben got.

a hold of him. Just he was just throwing. those guys around. They just gave him. noogies. They couldn't do [ __ ] There. was nothing they could do to him. >> That's really something. Yeah. They. couldn't get up. And he like. >> I can't emphasize a guy who never gets. tired. >> Yeah. >> Like I always had to like pace out like. and think about it's like how much. energy is this? You kind of have to. subconsciously go how much energy is. this going to take cuz I got to I got to. conserve my energy. It's like that's. just not a thing. >> Well, that's the guy that's the. difference between a guy who's like. constantly wrestling and doing it all of. his life and doing camps and starting.

when he was a young boy and also like. his technique was so good. He's like so. unorthodox as well. So efficient. >> Yeah. Yeah. So efficient. Efficient with. the energy is a big thing. >> Oh, that's huge. Yeah. I mean, if a guy. doesn't have to be tense all the time, you know, but it's like this uh video. that I watched with Usyk, it was very. eye opening. was like, "Of course, of he. would do 15 rounds of three and a half. minutes with a 20 second rest.". >> So, he's preparing himself for a 12. round fight. He would do 15, but he.

would do three and a half minute rounds. and he would do 20 seconds rest instead. of one minute. Yeah. >> And if he uh if he touched his back to. the ropes at any point in time, he would. add another round. >> That's nuts. That's great. That's really. great. >> [ __ ]. >> I love that. >> It's like the Lmanenko. I didn't see the. Usyk one, but I saw how Lmanenko. trained. >> Same trainer. >> Yeah, the same kind. Oh, his father. >> Same coach. Yeah, Lman trains Usyk. Exactly. Same. >> And it's uh bananas. Like the. coordination. >> He quit boxing as a young kid to learn.

Russian dance. >> Well, that's why his footwork is so. crazy. >> His footwork is insane. >> His footwork is insane. >> I would really like to have seen him. fight Shakur. >> Mhm. >> And uh you know, these guys Tank and. Shakur are great, but they were calling. him out and it was after. >> uh I think Lachenko was it's after he. fought Haney and he was like, I'm kind. of done. He fought Cambosus and then. that was he he wrapped on that. >> I felt like he got robbed in the Haney. fight. >> I thought so too. >> I thought he won that fight. >> I thought he won. >> It was a bummer to me because I was like. this is kind of a great comeback story. The guy fights for Ukraine in the war, comes back, gets back into shape,

>> fights again. And I think. >> and Haney's great, but he was much. bigger. >> than Lommo. Lommo was a. >> he just looked very small. He looked. like, you know, he was fighting at 35, >> but these guys are cutting down from god. knows where. Yeah. Like Haney's fighting. at 47 now. >> Mhm. >> So it's, you know, you could just see. their builds. Yep. >> They look different. >> Yeah. This is a different size. Different size. >> But Shakur, I'm saying Shakur is looks. about the same size as Lommo. >> Also super skillful.

>> Super skillful. And I was happy. I was. happy. His last. >> his last fight. Best Philly shell since. Floyd Mayweather. His [ __ ] defense. was incredible. >> Yeah. Defense. And he he stayed. And. that guy was putting. >> the guy from Golden Boy. I I can't. remember his name who who he fought but. was just a good fighter and was really. pressuring him. >> and Shore stayed in the pocket. Yeah, >> he stayed in the pocket calling him a. runner before. He's not a runner. Yeah, >> but he said after that fight, I'm not. going to fight that way anymore. >> He said, "I took too many shots.".

>> Oh, really? >> Yeah. Because he wanted to like put on a. show and show everybody he's not just a. runner. He could stand in the pocket. Then he's like, "Why am I doing this? >> I'll box the [ __ ] out of these. motherfuckers.". >> I mean, silver medalist, that guy. >> Yeah. Oh, he's elite. He's elite. and. just one of the best like it's as far as. skill. >> What do you think of Crawford Canelo? >> I love it. Do you? Yeah, I love that. Crawford wants to do it. >> I don't love it. I think it's Crawford's. last fight, so I'm happy he's going to. cash out and I'm rooting for him, >> but I would like to see him stay at 54. and fight Virgil Ortiz.

>> I'd like to see that, too. But the big. money is Canelo. I know. >> And why not do it? I mean, what a ballsy. move. You go 47 to 54 and you go [ __ ]. 60. He'll go right up to 68. That's. crazy because he's really not even at. 54. He's taken the fight at 54. He took. Maj because it was a big fight. Wins. another world title, >> right? >> And he won that. People are like trying. to discredit like he fought. First of. all, Terrence fought great. >> Yeah. >> Madam is great. He's a great fighter and. fought him differently than he fought. every other guy. He did fight him.

differently. >> He's dangerous. >> And Matt is a great athlete. Anybody who. does a backflip. >> in the in the ring, like that guy, he's. a great athlete. And and he is like uh. all these Eastern block fighters always. have like seven they're like seven and0. and it looks like nothing. It's like. yeah but he has 400 amateur fights. >> Exactly. Like Arthur Bet better be a. perfect example. He had like 300 amateur. fights. So Lomachenko they they have. hundreds of amateur fights and then by. by the time they get to the professional. ranks like Yeah. This isn't a regular.

one and0 guy. >> No. >> These are these are guys that just they. can do stuff that you can't even imagine. being able to do. >> They're unreal. So, who do you have in. the fight? >> I would listen, it's going to be great. It's going to be a great fight. You're. dealing with two all-time greats. Crawford's one of the best switch. hitters, I think, since Marvin Haggler. and one of the most skillful boxers. alive. And then you have Canelo, who. probably isn't the same guy as he was. just like a few years ago, >> but still one of the greatest of all.

time, still has brutal knockout power, you know? I mean, if you go back to like. some of his, you know, like more impressive fights. from a few years ago, like like the Amir. Khan KO, you know, like the Billy Joe. Saunders KO, like those KO, like he's. probably not that guy anymore. >> Yeah. >> But he's still he's still young enough. that he's still like pretty close to his. prime and one of the best of all time. >> I'd like to see him fight David Benvdas. >> Oh, yeah. Of course. I think that the.

WBC. should have forced it that fight. I know. he's the he's the draw of boxing and. he's the face of boxing and all that. stuff, but. >> says a lot that he doesn't want that. fight. >> You can't you can't let the inmates run. the asylum for lack of a better phrase. You have to force the fight. Patrick. Mahomes come into a football season. He. doesn't automatically go to the. playoffs, right? >> He's got to play every game. And if he. loses enough game, he has to go on the. road in the playoffs. It's like the WBC. should have forced.

>> Canelo to fight David Benvitas because. that's not fair that David Benvitas has. to go up to 75 now and he has to wait to. see the winner of the Better Beef Bivo. fight. >> Yeah. Well, that was the fight. The. fight I mean for Mexican bragging rights. too, you know. And. >> what a great fight. And and in no way do. I think that Canelo was afraid of him or. anything. He's just trying to maneuver. his career with the least risk. >> and the most money. >> And the most money. I think he said he. wanted he'll fight him, but he wanted. like $200 million or something crazy.

like that. >> I mean, but your mand it's your. mandatory defense at 68. It's your. mandator. How do you choose? I know. you're the face of boxing, but how do. you choose? The WCBC got to force that, man. >> Yeah, but maybe the Saudis will cough up. that money eventually. Like maybe he. beats Crawford and then they say, "Listen, like Turkey Alashik decides.". What does this say? Dev Ben, they. offered Canelo 70 million to fight me. That's before pay-per-view. They offered. me a flat fee of 5 million. I said yes. Then we never heard back. Whoa, that's.

crazy. >> Yeah, >> but you know, maybe for him 70 million. is not the number he wanted. Maybe he. thinks the Saudis will give him 200. >> They might look if he beats Crawford. that might be the move. >> But it speaks to how boxing is. organized. >> Yeah, that's true. >> You know what I mean? >> Yeah, it's goofy. >> It's like not organized. It's it's it. wants to be respected as a sport, but. it's not organized that way. Well, there's so many sanctioning bodies, you. know. >> Yeah. I say clean them out. >> Yeah. >> Clean out those sanctioning bodies title.

though because if someone's offering. someone a world title fight, they can. make so much more money as a world. champion, you know, like you win the. WBO. Let's say like Canelo vacates some. titles and a guy picks it up. He's still. a WBO champion or a WBC champion or WBA. or IBF or IBO. But that's the problem is. that there's so many world champions. Whereas in MMA, like you can be a. Bellator world champion, but everybody. knows you're not really the world. champion unless you're the UFC world. champion in terms of public perception. >> There's guys, I think, that were.

Bellator champions that could have won. in the UFC at that same weight class. And there's guys that did like Eddie. Alvarez came over from. >> uh Bellator. He was a world champion and. he won the world title in the UFC. Guys. did it, but the reality is most people. think of a world champion as a UFC. champion. But in boxing, the WBA. champion is thought exactly the same way. as the WBC champion. Depends on who it. is, right? You know what I mean? Like if. like Tyson has if it was Mike Tyson in. the early days and he had the WBC belt. and you had a WBA belt, you weren't the. champion. Mike Tyson was the champion.

Everybody knew it. But other than those. kind of examples, you know, where. there's one guy that's just the ultimate. in that weight class, a world. championship is worth a lot of money. So, it's hard for guys to say no and. just say, "Look, I'm only going to fight. for the Ring Magazine belt. That's what. the Saudis own and they're going to make. everybody fight everybody and it's going. to be the most amount of money. >> because I think that's what they're kind. of angling towards, >> structuring it differently." Yeah. >> Because that's what needs I mean, in my. opinion, that's what needs to happen. It.

needs to be structured differently and. there needs to be like. >> the fights need to be forced and and you. know what you have to let go of the draw. a little bit like well this fight is not. going to it doesn't matter if it draws. or not we need this fight to happen so. that we can get the best. >> champion. Yes. >> You know what I mean? So we can get the. real champion here. So it doesn't matter. if it's. >> not technically a good matchup. It has. to be forced. >> It means something to be the number one. contender. It means something. Then if. you do that, you never get fights like.

Tyson Fury versus Francis Enanu, right? You only get those fights, those fun. fights if someone's like, "Okay, let's. just try this, >> right?" But I think that's what um there. are like prop fights. I don't know if I. call him that, but like what Floyd is. doing now, Mayweather. He's like he kind. of deserves to do that. Like he's like. outside, he's retired and he's like, I'm. putting on these fights and if he can. get paid for them, good for him. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? But that's outside. of what we consider.

real competition. >> Yeah. Well, this is different because. Floyd's 50, right? This is a different. thing. Yeah. But when you're talking. about. >> and what Jake is doing too, what Jake. what Jake Paul is doing too. He's like, I challenge this guy and it's like. that's fine and that's fun, >> right? >> But is that the highest level of if he. fought better be or the Anthony Joshua. thing is crazy to me too, but it's like. if he fought better be it's like. >> yeah, better be would be the fight. That. would be the fight. That would be fun to. watch. >> because you can't run from better beef. No, >> he's terrifying.

>> No, he's terrifying. He's 40, too. >> Technically sound that he's 40. These. guys are all older because of their. amateur careers. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exact. I mean, Usyk's 38, which is also crazy. He's in his prime. at 38. But I think a big part of that is. it speaks to his discipline that he. stays in such insane shape. >> Who's that? Usyk. >> Usyk. Yeah. He doesn't let himself. And. better be as well. There's some amazing. videos of Better Bee. very similar kind. of training methods like it's uh. Russians and Ukrainians and you know. better be a chachchnan. It's like these. guys. >> chan Muslim doesn't drink disciplined.

>> Yeah. >> Lifestyle. And then this funny cuz they. ask these guys about who's your favorite. boxer. He's like I really don't watch. it. This is my job. >> Crazy. >> He goes, "This is my job. This is my. job. I come. I do my job. I go home to. my family.". >> Crazy. You don't watch boxing? >> You don't watch boxing? >> That's nuts. You're one of the best. ever. You don't watch. >> Who's the kid? Who's the uh Denver. Nuggets guy? Who's the um He's another. guy who says that after they won the NBA. championship. >> Yokic. >> Yic. He's another guy. He won the NBA. championship. He's like, "Nah, it's fun.

It's fun. We celebrate." And I go home. with my family now. I don't think about. basketball. >> He doesn't even get emotional when he. wins, but his horse won and he broke. down crying. >> Oh, you see it? There it is. Emotionally. celebrates after his horse wins a race. So, his horse won a race and he was. [ __ ] crying. He's like, "This is the. greatest thing of all time. Look at him. He's so happy. So happy.". >> So if you watch when they had him in the. stand, there's a video of him at at the. end of it. >> Oh, that bad video, but I saw. >> Yeah, that's not a video. That's not the.

same video. But so when his horse did. win, he was like crying and so happy. Meanwhile, Meanwhile, he wins. It's like something. he's been working for his whole life. He's like, I don't know. >> Maybe that's the secret to success. He. stays zen about it. >> Well, they look at it like it's a job. They prepare mentally and then these. guys are very mentally tough. >> and they prepare for it like a job and. then they go and do the job and they're. like this isn't my life. >> It kind of it kind of dials back some of. the ego on it which I like. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? It's like I'm this. guy. It's like no I'm doing this and.

then when I retire I'll just be a guy. >> Yeah. >> No one thinks about that in America. Everybody's like now I'm going to I'm. going to go and I get it. You know it's. like I'm going to go to the next thing. Maybe I can you know parlay this into. something else or a vitamin water. >> I can have a cologne. You know what I. mean? It's like it's like they're trying. to parlay it into something else to make. more money, but. >> Yeah. >> But I don't know, man. These guys, they. have the eye of the tiger. >> Oh, yeah. >> You know what I mean? >> We uh we played a few times on this uh. podcast uh Serbian basketball when they.

played basketball in Serbia and how the. the crowd is and you're like, "Oh my. god, this is like you're stepping into a. [ __ ] gang war." Yeah. >> It's the crowds are so electric. >> They're so into it. Like like. aggressively into it. You're like, "Dude, these people from that part of. the world are hard people." And when. they're coming over here, they're. dominating in MMA. They're dominating in. boxing. >> Like, that's a tough part of the world. that's that's been racked by war for. hundreds of years.

>> What is this, Jamie? >> Just another. >> This is Serbia, bro. They're starting. fires. What are they doing? >> Flares and fireworks and [ __ ] They're. outside. >> Oh, outside. >> That would have been funny if they were. inside doing fireworks, >> bro. They have outside basketball games. That's pretty wild, too. >> Wow. It's like, look at this [ __ ] crowd, dude. It's just nuts how how hyped up they. get. >> Wow. [Applause].

>> Yeah, bro. [Applause]. >> It's a a different world. >> It's so funny. People go, "The Eagles. fans are really tough." It's like, I. don't How about these guys? >> Yeah. >> Have you ever seen that game that they. play? I think it's called Cal. Calciostoricico. Cal Calciotoricico. It's like a combination of rugby and. MMA. And they do it in Italy and they do. it in a couple other places. They do it.

in um they do it in Croatia, too. >> Oh, I think I did see that. So, it's. like a rugby, right? >> But it's fighting. So, they get together. as teams and they've got a ball. Oh, I. don't know what the [ __ ] deal is with. the ball, but they beat the [ __ ] piss. out of each other. >> These guys just look rough. >> Animals. Like animals. Look at that guy. He's rubbing his hands together. I can't. wait to [ __ ] brain somebody. And so. these guys stand outside each other and. they're having gang fights. Like this is. the beginning of the And there's a ball. involved. I don't understand the need. for this ball. But look, while these guy.

while that ball's moving around, these. guys in the middle are just beating the. [ __ ] out of each other. They're. wrestling. They're [ __ ] shooting. takedowns, body slamming each others, elbows to the face on the ground. It's. nuts. It's the craziest [ __ ] game. Like, this is back when people needed. something to do in between war, you. know? They needed something to stay. sharp and so they developed a game to. make their [ __ ] war ability hone. tight while they, you know, ramp up. their team. >> The refs like jesters.

>> Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's probably how. cool people dress back when they. invented this. >> But it's interesting. I wonder how they. if they're scoring for the individual. fights that they're having. >> What did you say, Jamie? >> I always tell someone score. What is the. point? >> There's no point. There's no point. Who's got the ball? What's happening? These guys are just beating each other. up. This guy's grabbing a hold of the. the fence there. You're allowed to hold. the fence. There's like almost no rules. >> If someone scores here, about like, did. they win the fight or did they get a. Where's the goal? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I have no idea. I don't think they. care about the goal. I think they want. to punch you in the face.

I mean, it's a crazy game. >> Well, it's three to two. >> Like, look, this guy gets taken down out. of nowhere. He's nowhere near the ball. This guy's mounting up, beating his ass, and the guy runs across with the ball. I. don't look at their stupid shorts. >> They're wearing tights and [ __ ] Like. the the the clothes they wear are. ridiculous. >> Was that guy got something stuck to his. back like a needle? Look at his back. >> Oh, yeah. He's got like a piercing like. a It looks like a [ __ ].

>> like a pin. >> There's no one stopping the fight. either. So, this must be part of it. >> Yeah, he's got like a a safety pin. through his back. >> Maybe he's the captain of the team. >> Yeah, you got to pull that off to win. This is nuts. >> Oh, maybe that is something. >> I I mean, it seems like you just kind of. grab that. >> Yeah, this is a crazy ass sport, man. And look, while the these guys are. mounted on top of each other while the. game's going on, guys have guys in side. control. It's chaos. >> Full contact soccer. >> Yeah. Look, this guy's running and the. other guy just mounts him, starts.

beating his ass. >> It's kind of entertaining. >> [ __ ] for sure entertaining. It's. violent. >> Violence is in it. But look, all these. guys in the middle, they're not even. stopping this guy from running because. they're too busy mounting people. >> And he gets through. >> I'll score. >> All right, that guy scored. >> Oh, you look at he did it casual. >> Nutty ass game. But that's the point. It's like those people from that part of. the world. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> They've been involved in some wild [ __ ]. for a long time.

>> Long time. >> That's Europe. >> Is it Europe? >> Uh that is in Florence. I believe that's. Italy. >> But I I know like I said they do it uh. they do that in Croatia as well. That. same sport. >> There's just hard people out there in. the world while we're all arguing over. pronouns in your Twitter bio. >> We're arguing with each other on that's. really funny. It's like arguing with. each other on Twitter and those guys are. doing that. That's what Twitter would. look like if it was physical. >> Yeah, sort of. It' be a lot of guys. crying.

>> Are you on the Twitter? Do you do you. stay off of it? >> I'm off of it. But I used to write jokes. on it and now it's like just. >> that doesn't benefit you to write jokes. on it anymore. Now it's confrontation is. what the algorithm loves. So unless. you're trying to at least the way that. that's the way I view it. It's like. unless you're trying to take somebody. down or have an argument that spurs the. algorithm. So, I don't want to do any of. that. >> Yeah. I It's nonsense. >> I'm focused on front-facing Instagram. videos now. >> Front facing. >> Yeah. You do you talk into your phone.

That's what people love now. >> Is that what you're doing? >> I have to I have to do it to promote my. shows. There you go. Well, the Aussie. Osborne death is uh crazy, right, guys? Prince of Darkness. >> Oh, it's one of those things. >> Yeah. It's like comment on stuff. >> Comment. M. >> it's kind of like what Twitter was, but. um I don't know. It's always changing. and you hear that this is what is uh. getting views and yeah, you're trying to. sell tickets. >> I get it. I get it. But I mean, I'm glad. I don't have to do it.

>> Yeah. Well, I put standup clips. Standup. clips is really my bread and butter. >> Well, that's the big thing. Yeah. >> A great standup clip will push you right. into headliner. If you're a beginning. comic, like even before you're ready, there's guys that like like you know, they they start out, they've been doing. comedy for three years, they got a good. 10 minutes and they put that 10 minutes. online, then boom, they take off. Now. you have to write a whole hour, right, >> outside of that 10 minutes and you have. to headline. Like it's a just a rush job. to kind of get it through. But. >> you have to figure out how to fill that. space. Everybody has different.

challenges. So the guys who do that, then they're filling clubs and now they. got to figure out how to get people. their money's worth in those. Yeah, clubs. >> You have to construct a real hour. >> You have to construct an hour or like. say you got famous off crowd work or. something. It's like that's mostly what. you're doing then. Crowd work. >> That's different. That you can do. Like. that's pretty easy. Not easy, but you. can fill time. Whereas like if you're. the the hardest for me, I think uh not. not for me, but I don't do it. But the. hardest uh in my opinion is. nonsequitator guys. You know, guys like.

Steven Wright, right? Right. >> Like that kind of thing. Like one absurd. nonsequiter into another. There's no. like through line. >> Right. Right. Right. >> It's all just like things that are. totally unrelated. Here's another thing. I noticed, you know? >> So hard to write an hour that way. >> Oh my god. >> Like I think Steven Wright and the other. one was Mitch Hedber. It was a very. similar style, right? >> Nonsequittors. >> Fantastic, too. >> Amazing. >> But uh very hard and time consuming to. put an hour together that way. >> Oh my god. I mean, you have to write if.

you're doing that, you But those clips, I mean, those clips do well, you know, if you put work into the clip. The the. the. >> trick of it is developing the material. fast enough in order to put it out. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? It's like you're. not coming that every you're not coming. up with that every day. And I don't know. if the general public realizes that. >> You're almost better off l for online. loosely talking about a subject and. putting that up. >> Mhm. rather than. really sitting in the pocket and.

developing it the way that we do, >> right? Because it's a lot of times like. it's a well the guys are like really. good at ranting like Burr is really good. at it and Tim Dylan's the best at it. where they just take a subject and rant. That's a great premise factory because. you're going on these rants for, you. know, with Dylan. He'll do a rant for. like an hour, >> right? >> A couple minutes in there you could. probably develop into material, right? >> And then you're doing that all the time. So you're. >> But the thing is you have to stop. That's the thing with journaling.

>> People like you should journal. And I I. tried it. I tried a different technique. like get up and just journal. Don't. worry about the jokes. Just journal. every day. So you're journaling every. day. And it's like now you have a lot of. premises, but none of it's developed. So. you can't journal every day. Then when. you have like a week of journaling, it's. like now you have to go back through the. journal and you have to see what's you. have to pull it out and then develop. these ideas. >> When you say journaling, so you sit down. and write, do you write about your life. or do you write about Okay. or if like you write about a topic that. you're interested in that's that's.

that's you. But there's so many or. potentially funny things that happen to. you every day that if you would just. journal it you you bring it to light and. you but if you don't journal it's kind. of like these things just. >> they slip away. >> They slip away. But if you journal and. it's like oh that was funny that was. funny. Just just getting on a plane now. is hilarious. you know, there's so many. different things and you interact with. so many different you just these small. interactions with people and it's just. it's uh you know something that could go. south you know it could go south it.

could be okay and I got off the plane. coming here this just gets me every time. it happens almost every time I travel I. think I'm drawing it to me it's like. there's a natural progression of how the. plane deboards like people from the. seats they just get off the plane. according to where your seat is. You're. getting off first if you're closer to. the entrance of the plane. That's the. way it's designed to go. There's always. somebody who runs gets their bag and.

runs to the front of the plane. And. you're like, "What are you doing, dude? We all want to get off. Unless you have. a connecting flight, we all want to get. off. What are you doing?". >> I know people get mad at those people. There was a video recently where a lady. did that and people were yelling at her, >> but. >> yeah, it turns into a great clip. Somebody videos it and it's an. altercation and uh it turns into a viral. clip. >> How about that lady that said that like. someone on the plane wasn't real? Remember that? She says like. shape-shifting.

>> Yes. >> I bet she's a lot of fun. I bet that. lady's a lot of fun. >> I bet she's great. She's really fun at. parties. It's like there's an imaginary. person and then they're like there was. no imaginary person. I was like I was. having a bad day. >> Not just imaginary person but yell it. out in the middle of a plane that's in. the sky. Was it already in the sky? >> Or did she get kicked off the plane when. it was on the ground? >> Yeah, I think that. >> I think it was in before. Was it in the. sky? >> I think it was.

>> Imagine you're on the plane with a lady. that says that someone's not real and. you go, "Okay, one of two things is. going on here. Either she's nuts or I'm. in a horror movie." Right? Cuz if she's. right, you know, and like you look back, you're like, "Hey, what's going on with. that guy's skin?" and he's like it. starts bursting and [ __ ] separating. and it's like John Carpenters the thing. like [ __ ]. >> Turns out she was right. He wasn't real. He was morphing into something else. >> Yeah, the odds of that are very small. But in movies it's very high. So it's. like it's hard. You got to take it with.

a grain of salt. She might be right. Imagine if she was. right. Oh god. And you have to find out. And there's no communication on a plane. The plane just goes in the middle of the. ocean. There's a [ __ ] person who. turns into an insect on board and starts. attacking everybody. or a chest burster. like from that movie Alien. [ __ ]. >> Why did it have to be me? >> Anything could happen. >> and then nobody believes it. >> No one believes it. >> Yeah. And then it becomes a conspiracy. theory that people like autistic people. obsess about on the internet. They know.

what happened and they. >> But that's a good They never follow up. with what actually happened to her. What's her life like now? >> She's on a podcast with Conor McGregor. >> Yeah, she's popping up in his place. She. was on Barl doing stuff there for a. while. >> Oh, but she's doing something with Conor. McGregor. That's why I brought her up. >> Yeah, he posted her today that she's. going to be at his uh. >> maybe she could do something with the. hawk too girl. >> You know what I mean? Maybe maybe they. could u cuz her career has kind of. >> maybe they could both go to Gaza and. solve all the food problems. They could figure it out. >> Yeah. >> What? >> We'll put our best people on it.

>> She's going to the the inn that he owns. >> Yeah. I think it's just like, you know, like an appearance uh or something like. that. >> She does appearances. >> She's That's it. She's been on the. internet now for That was two years ago. >> That's very funny. She complained about. somebody disappearing and now she's. doing appearances. >> She probably sells better than Joe List. It's a travesty. >> How's that? She the. >> There she is. >> She's described as a marketing. executive, too. So, I didn't know that. that was fake, but you know, >> crazy plane lady. >> uh after she had a meltdown on a flight. in 2023. What did she say she saw?

>> That's I was reading through it cuz. there's a they did do a followup here. where there's there's police. >> Is that her down there? Oh, she's hot. Yeah. Why does she not Why does she look. different, Joe? >> That always helps. That the initial. photo of her. Start at the top. How does. that become? Scroll down. How does it. become that? What happened? >> That looks like a different person. >> Yeah. >> Plain outfit. >> Scroll down though. >> Makeover. >> Lost some weight. >> Tighten everything up. She's making the. best out of it.

>> Okay. So, what is she saying? >> Oh, not I mean different this. >> she's in the spotlight. She's remained. in the spotlight since, appearing on. podcast, YouTube shows, and giving tours. of her sleek Texas home. Oh, she's Texas. crazy. Even better. Even better. That's. armed crazy. >> Here was when it actually happened. And. they followed her out. And I was trying. to read through here. >> So, what was she saying? I don't care if. I ever fly with y'all again. I just want to know what happens to this. flight here. >> I'm not crazy. Y'all's crazy. >> Yeah. Do not let that flight leave. This.

flight's not going to make it to. Orlando. It's not going to Looking out. the windows as they escort her. Gomez. says there's a lot of people on that. flight. Like she So she really believes. that there's something on that flight. Maybe she took an edible. Maybe someone slipped her a Mickey. Like. what did she say she saw? >> That's I know that she was smart enough. for a while to milk it and tell you like. you know I'll tell you on this next. podcast what was really real. >> That [ __ ] is not real. She said. and she's 38 so it's like a a mil MI mil.

kind of crazy. But imagine if you're the. guy, she's saying that you're not real. and you're just right there, >> right? Just chilling. >> like you're not real. It's like. >> chilling with a hoodie on trying to. watch a YouTube video on your phone. This [ __ ] crazy [ __ ] is screaming at. you. >> That's a great That's a great story. That's what I talk about journaling. What if you sit next to her on a plane, she flips out, tells you you're not. real? >> What a gift that would be if you could. tell the audience that you were a guy. that was on the flight with that. motherfucker's not real lady. >> Here's here's the quote she said, which. is she thought the plane was going to. blow up. >> Oh. >> Oh. Why?

>> I'm getting the [ __ ] off. And there's a. reason why I'm getting the [ __ ] off. That [ __ ] back there is not. real. >> You can sit on this plane and you could. [ __ ] die with them or not. I'm not. going to. Like, what? Who's not real? Who's the guy? >> That's I mean, [ __ ] could have. been. >> Look at her out there talking to the. cops. >> Look at her. She's got She's pointing. her I don't think she got arrested. I. think she calmly explained to the cops. that someone wasn't real. >> Oh, that's so funny. Well, who's the. guy, though? I want to know who the guy.

is. >> That guy's not real. >> That's the guy we should be. interviewing. >> Like she's just trying to She appears. more lucid at this point, but remains. combative with officers. >> One says to her, "I can tell you're. having a bad day. We're not trying to. make it any worse." To which she. responds, "My dad's a cop. [ __ ] you, dude. That's got nothing to do with anything. My dad's a cop." I love that. >> she got into the evidence room, Jack.

Something something happened there. That's very funny. I want to know who the guy is. >> Yeah, she could have been saying. [ __ ] not as a person. Could. have been point. I don't know. You know, the plane the back of the plane's not. real. Something on there's not real. She. called. >> I like how she she blurts. I might never. fly again. >> It's like threatening us. >> It might not be your choice, you [ __ ]. psycho. >> I'll take the bus. Who's going to put. you on a plane when you said the. someone's not real? >> Now you got the incident something about. her iPad AirPods losing and she accused.

someone of stealing them. >> I don't know. Then it just doesn't. follow on that. >> Oh, that could be somebody. Oh, that. could be. >> That actually makes some sense where. it's like that someone stole her her um. >> She thought the plane was going to crash. cuz someone stole her iPad. It doesn't. make any sense. >> Well, it rolls deep. >> She's saying the plane is going to go. down. They're not going to live. Everyone's going to die cuz someone. stole her iPods. None of that makes any sense. She's. kooky. She's fun. >> Yeah. That's very fun. >> Yeah. She probably gets on tables at. bars. You know what I mean? She's.

probably one of them. >> Well, she's successful now. >> Oh, she's the girl at the comedy club. It's my birthday. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. She'd be the best in the. front row. You would You'd be so happy. >> Oh my god. >> She's going to come to your shows now. >> No, but that's it's really something. It's a it's reflective of our society is. that she parlayed that into some level. of fame. I'm sure she has a podcast. I'm. sure she has all kinds of like, you. know, that's her character now.

>> Conor McGregor was Instagramming about. her today. So, there you go. >> Yeah. The Hawk to a girl. I mean, she. made it all the way to a pump and dump. Hawk to a coin. >> You ever heard Mezer talk about it? He's. got the [ __ ] best bit about it about. the hawk to a coin. >> No, I saw him last night though. He's. such a lunatic. I love that dude. He's. so funny. He's just so nuts. But he had. this like like who would have thought? Who would have thought that would be a. ripoff? The hawk to a coin. Like if you just he was connecting. Taylor Swift to Epstein last I saw him.

last night. He's like Taylor Swift you. don't think that there's something in. the lights at those concerts that make. you have amnesia. I'm like Kurt I don't. I don't know Kurt. I've known you for 20. years. >> No. No. No. Serious? >> Yeah. He's connected. He's connected. And then and then Tommy Pope who I love. >> Wait a minute. Lights give you amnesia. This is. >> Yeah. He he he brought it up. I said, "No, no, Kurt, I never I said,"Kurt, I. never heard of that." And he goes, "No, no, it's real. It's" And then he brought. it up on his phone and sure enough, it. was on his it was the lights the they.

pay hundreds of dollars for these. tickets and then the lights at the. Taylor Swift concert make you forget. that you were at a concert. They make. you have amnesia. >> How is that possible? >> I don't know. What's even uh crazier to. me is how he connected it to Edstein, >> but he did it. >> Transient global amnesia. Taylor Swift. fans report postcon forgetfulness. >> Exactly. Maybe the plane girl wasn't. wasn't wrong. >> But here's my take on this. She is in. this rare air right now like the.

Beatles, like Elvis in his prime where. it's an emotional experience being in. her presence. If you're a Taylor Swifty, >> those fans are dieards. She sells out. stadiums, multiple shows in stadiums, right? >> I think it's probably so emotional for. them when they're standing in front of. her and she's singing that afterwards. they're so spent and racked. They're. probably like, "What happened?". >> It's probably like such a. >> Yeah. The Beatles The Beatles had that.

effect in Elvis. The women would be like. crying and shaking. >> They'd faint. Michael Jackson in his. prime. They'd faint. People would faint. if they saw him live. They'd faint. That's interesting. >> That's way more like CIA. >> But what about the lights causing. seizures? >> Guarantee you I go to that [ __ ]. concert and I come out with a perfect. memory. Okay. Not that I don't like. Taylor Swift. I like some of her songs. I really do. One of her songs is on uh. No Body No Crime. It's a great [ __ ]. song.

>> It's on our uh Spotify playlist. >> But it wouldn't cause you to have. amnesia. >> I'd be fine. I'd be fine. I'd say, "What. a great show. She's really talented." I. wouldn't go, "What happened? what. happened? But I tell you what, I did see. the Rolling Stones when they were uh at. Kota and I felt like I was on a drug. Like I didn't feel like it was real. Like when they went out onto that stage. and Mick Jagger's on that stage, put in. your lip, baby. Like you're like, I. can't believe he's real. Like I was. standing there. >> with my friend uh Bobby who owns the.

racetrack and I was going I don't feel. like I'm really here. This feels like a. drug. This feels crazy. Like I'm. watching Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, right? >> And they're live. They're right there. >> It's like it and there's like a hund,000. people. It's a huge [ __ ] crowd. >> I was like, "This is nuts, man. This. feels fake.". >> So, I'm probably not I'm a giant Rolling. Stones fan, but I'm probably not as big. a Rolling Stones fan as these Swifties. are, right? >> Like, they're her god, or she's their.

god, rather. Like, you go to see that. for that to be enough of a thing to. warrant an article on the internet. >> I mean, that's pretty crazy. >> Somebody at Y wanted started a study on. it. I'm trying to see if they followed. up on it. >> I want to know what they do. Are they a. gender studies professor? >> Like what do you what kind of. scholarship have you gone to to get that. position? Do you happen to have a. certain heritage that's profitable? What. are you doing? >> But yeah, I didn't think it was a thing.

either. Man, Kurt is like. >> Kurt's a great comic, man. He's so He's. so so funny and he's great. But it's. like 5 minutes into the conversation, I'm like, I don't even Kurt, I don't. know what you're saying. I don't know. where everybody is a CIA plant. Everybody is like, uh, you've been put. there by the Rockefellers or. >> I'm so glad he and I are friends and. we've been friends for so long that he. doesn't think I'm some sort of a plant. >> That would be a real problem. >> That would be something. If Kurt leans. in on you, he really thinks.

>> leans. Oh, you don't think? >> Yeah. >> Oh, you don't think? >> Oh, you don't think? >> You don't know. You don't know about the. thing that happened in 73. >> You don't know about the Kissinger. thing. The Kissinger thing. You don't. know? Like, >> I don't I don't know any of this, Kurt. >> I can't I I tell him sometimes before I. go on stage, I'm like, I have to be on. stage in 5 minutes. I can't do this. right now. I can't do this. I'll be in. my head with what you said on stage. going, "What the [ __ ] is going on? Is he. right?" I'll be googling [ __ ] Is this. true? Hey Kurt, I love you, but not. right now. I can't do it. >> All the time. He'll [ __ ] corner you,

dude. He'll corner you and he looms over. you. A big goon. >> 65. >> [ __ ] goon. >> Kurt 65. And then he went on stage and. destroyed last destroyed in the funniest. way. It's like completely original. It's. completely him. >> He's going to do a special and film it. at the club. I'm very excited. Very. excited about that. He's the man. >> We got a great crew down here. It's. really fun. >> I was there last night, man. It was. awesome. >> How many days are you in town for? I'm. out now. >> You're out now tonight? Yeah. Nice. >> But uh I'm going to come back and try to. do some more podcasts.

>> Cool. Yeah. Cool. Here now. >> A lot of people are here now. Duncan. Trussell's here now. >> But I've headlined the club several. times and I love it every time, man. I. text you every time I'm here. I'm like, it's the best, man. >> Very happy. That makes me very happy. That's what we wanted to do and I feel. super lucky that we pulled it off. >> It's hard to do. You know, a lot of. things have to line up perfectly to be. able to get a club like that. Yeah, >> it's a lot of it's the staff. That's a. huge part of it. >> You could tell it was designed by a.

comic. >> Yeah. >> The club, you know. >> Yeah. Designed by me, but also with a. lot of input from everybody else. Like. Hinchcliffe had a lot of input. Louis CK. had a lot of input. Brian Simpson had a. lot of input. All all the guys that are. regulars at the club, Ron White, everybody had their say. Like I was I. basically said I don't have like a. absolute fixed position on anything. Tell me what you think. Right. Right. >> And so a lot of the stuff like the. lights inside the green room when the.

light goes on. >> That's fantastic. >> For each room so you know who's got the. light the star the time that someone's. on stage both from the stage and from. the green room all that. Like I think. the lights were Tony's idea. >> I think the time might have been. Simpson's idea. So, it's all like. everybody had their own say in what what. we do. Louis told me to lower the. ceiling in the little room and in the. big room I did that. He told me to make. the stage smaller in the little room. I. did that. Like I did whatever anybody. said. Like Louis is like, "You need more. sound deadening. You should put carpet.

down. Forget about the the bounce that. you get from the loudness of the echo. does make it louder, but it also makes. it a little hard to hear what you're. saying." I'm like, "You're right." And. so we did everything everybody wanted. Every every suggestion that. >> acoustics and the low ceilings are key, man. It's everything. >> It really seems everything. >> The crispness of what you're saying, especially if you're like a softer. spoken guy and you're following somebody. who's like a yeller. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. You have. >> you adjust the sound, but it's still. it's like the crispness matters. >> Mhm. It's got to be clear. And you know, it took us a while to dial everything in.

the right volume and you know, the. lighting. So the light was like. sometimes the audience would be lit up a. little bit too much like now you got to. darken that, you got to do that. It took. a little while, but once we dialed it. in, man, it's been pretty smooth for. like we were going on. It'll be our. third year in March. >> That's awesome. >> It's crazy. It's like seems like it just. happened. >> And the big room is great. It's great to. headline that, but I just popped in at. the small room last night and that's. that's really great. >> It's one of the best rooms in the world. >> You know what I mean? To work out like. you can re you really have the freedom.

to sit there and like play with and work. out the material. And that's kind that's. really what you need. You need like. >> you need an experimental place where you. can fail a little bit. >> where you can [ __ ] around and that that. little room is like the chamber of truth. because like if you got some [ __ ] in. your act and there's only 100 people in. the room it seems obvious you're like. ew. >> But that's like the old Boston comedy. club in New York. Remember that place? >> Exactly like that. Oh, it's like the. last days of the Boston. There's It. looks like a log cabin in the back, you.

know, and then there's like, >> you know, during the winter time when I. first got there, 2004, >> it's like there'd be four people, five. people, you know, the comics would bark. people in and it's like you had to. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> And the belly room. The belly room at. the store. Have you ever done that? >> Yes. >> The belly room was amazing. It's so good. for that cuz belly room I think is. really only supposed to have like 70. people in it. >> and a lot of times it's way over that. right especially for roast battle like. they would do roast battle sometimes and. I'd be in the kitchen like has anybody.

ever checked to make sure this [ __ ]. ceiling can support all those folks cuz. people would jump around and you would. like you'd hear it like oh it would suck. if this caved in cuz that [ __ ]. building's so old. Yeah, I. >> mean that building, our building is even. older at the mothership, but at least. it's been like rebuilt. But that. building at the store that was Crosclams.

are any good. like we got a [ __ ]. termites and [ __ ] eaten through cuz at. one point in time the wall the back wall. behind it was in danger because the the. the hill was collapsing and so they had. to reinforce with like steel rebar and. giant beams and [ __ ]. >> It's funny because if something did. happen everybody would think it was a. prank. They would go oh this is uh this. has got to be some kind of a it's like. no this the ceiling actually. So in.

1940, Ceros became a popular night spot for. celebrities. 1940 nightclub closed in. 1960. Was reopened as a rock club in '. 65. After a few name changes, became the. comedy store in ' 72. Wow. Club Seville. Was that what it was. before Club Seville? >> So it was Club Seville in 1935. It. opened New Year's Eve in 1935. It. featured a crystal dance floor with a. subsurf with subsurface fish. So fish. underneath the dance floor, fountains.

and colored lights in its crystal marine. room. The building was remodeled in. January 1940. Cirrus was opened. Wow. Crazy. That's not A lot of people were. whacked in that place. >> And no renovations have been done since. Oh, Bugsy Seagull. >> It was Bugsy Seagull's joint. That was. the thing. Like every people got whacked. in that place. That's why a lot of. people believe that it's haunted. >> Oh, that's that's really. >> it's got a weird energy to it, man. Yeah, that place has the weirdest. energy. Yeah. The weirdest the weirdest.

energy, >> you know? >> That's That's awesome, man. >> It's got history. Like massive massive. history in that building. Like you feel. in the walls, >> right? >> I believe that. It sounds like What is. that? Ser Jimmyi Hendris. Oh my god. 65. Steros reopened as the rock club. leisque. Ike and Tina Turner performed. at the newly opened club with Jimmyi. Hendris as part of their band. Holy. [ __ ] man. The birds got their start at.

Ceros in 1965. Accounts of the period. reproducing the sleeve notes to the. pre-flight sessions box set described a. church-like atmosphere with interpretive. dancing. Ew. >> The club also served as the host during. the recording of 1965 Dick Dale album, Rock Out with Dick Dale and his Dell. Tones. Boy, people were lame before the. internet. Oh my god. >> Look at the other two names for it. The. kaleidoscope, its boss.

>> Oh, kaleidoscope in ' 68 and then it was. called is its boss in ' 69 and known as. the patch. Oh, in ' 69 it was known as. the patch two. >> and then the store from 72. >> Wow. >> On till present. >> Yeah. Because comedy comedy was done in. like jazz clubs and stuff, right? Or. like poetry readings before. >> You know what the oldest comedy club in. the country is? >> No. >> The Ice House. >> Is it really? Ice House in Pasadena did. not know that. >> Yeah, the Ice House in Pasadena was uh.

it was like a the oldest running club. >> So, it was like I think it was a music. club at first. >> and then well at first it started out as. an an actual ice house back when people. didn't have freezers. You would get a. giant chunk of ice from Alaska or some. [ __ ] and they put it in, you know, like. insulated giant steel boxes and. transport it to cities and you would be. able to go to there and buy ice for your. ice box and you'd put it, you know, in. an insulated box in your home and that's. how you keep your milk cold. >> Like literally, that's what an ice house.

was. >> That's awesome. >> And so then it became I think it was a. rock club for a little while and then it. became a comedy club earlier than the. store. >> When did the ice house first start doing. comedy? I think it's the longest running standup. comedy club in the world. I'm pretty. sure they were like early 70s, late60s. they started doing standup there, but they remodeled now. I haven't been. to the new one.

>> Are you on the road at all now? >> No. No. Even my last special, I did it. all just working out at the club and. then I did the special in San Antonio. Like. >> that's great. I [ __ ] hate traveling, man. I'm done. Oldest 1960. >> Oh, wow. >> 1960. But I think in the beginning it wasn't a. comedy club. I think in the beginning it. was something else. I think it was like. a rock club, but I think that was only. for like a few years. So maybe like 62.

as a So what does it say? 60 to 78. The. Ice House was a folk music. Oh, so 78. >> Okay. So, it's not the oldest comedy. club. >> Comedy. They did comedy. >> Many comedians also appeared in the. club. In 1978, the original owners were. bought out by a trio of investors led by. Bob Fischer. Shout out to Bob, my homie. Who changed the format of the club to. stand up comedy. So, Bob was a comic. So, in 78, he changed it to flat comedy. >> So, it was kind of like a hodge podge in. like 72. It was mixed like musical.

performers and like uh comedians. >> Boy, before they remodeled it, it was. the the greatest club. It was so good. that you couldn't use it. Like if you. wanted to do an audition tape, people. wouldn't accept audition tapes at the. Ice House cuz everybody killed there. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah, >> that was really. >> That's how good it was. That's how good. the environment was. It was that good. >> So you would go there and kill and then. you go to other class people go, "No, no, no. That's Ice House. It's too easy. there.". >> Oh, wow. >> That's how good it was. Isn't that nuts?

>> That's nuts. >> Why would you fix that? Why would you. change that at all if you have that. formula? Yeah. >> Where it's so good that people don't. allow you to use tapes from there. >> Why would you shoot every special there? >> I would never touch it. I would keep it. exactly the same way it is forever. And. if I bought that place, I would find the. old blueprints. I be like, we're tearing. down all this [ __ ] and bringing it. right. I want to find where the old. floor is. Do you have the old floor. anywhere? Did you guys save the old. floor up? >> There got to be something about the. people, though. >> Going there, too. Like,

>> yeah. Pasadena is like more relaxed. >> Yeah. >> You know, LA is Everybody thinks they're. famous. Everybody's like, "I should be. up there." You know, like a lot of a lot. of industry [ __ ] who don't care. about people on stage, arms crossed, a. lot of. >> and everybody's an influencer now. So, it's like. >> Yeah. Even worse. But even back then, everybody wanted to be famous. Whereas. Pasadena, it's just regular people. It's. like a road gig, >> you know? So, it's fun. >> Yeah. >> They're relaxed. Pasadena was like the. place where the producers would live. Like the stars would all live in the. Hollywood Hills and the producers would.

all move out to Pasadena and have like. normal lives in the early days of. Hollywood. So there's these beautiful. houses out there, >> but that's where you would want to do. well. I would imagine back in the day. when there was industry and they cared. if someone was talented or not, you'd. want to go in front of a a crowd that. was they lived there. So they would come. out and then they would see you crush. and they would be like, "This guy should. have a show.". >> Yeah. But I don't think they went to. those clubs. >> No. >> No. I think it was like more the people. that lived there. I don't think it was. ever an industry thing, which is why it. was so good, you know, cuz it it it just. was funny. It was just comedy. You know.

what I mean? It wasn't like this is my. shot at getting a sitcom, >> you know, which is like a lot of the. clubs in LA. >> We had that for a lot of years. Like you. never know who's in the audience. Wear a. suit. >> Yeah. Wear a suit and don't do new. material. Like it was the worst. >> Yeah. >> And Mitsy stopped all that [ __ ] She put. a stop to all that [ __ ] Like she wanted. you to do new stuff. Like she she forced. it. >> She's like, you can't just develop a. 10-minute set and do the same goddamn. set over and over again hoping that it's. going to lead you to a show. Plus,

that's torture anyway. It's torture for. the comic to do that anyway. To not try. anything else, just to go up and do the. same 10 minutes. That's crazy. >> They all did it. A lot of guys did it. cuz that was the thing back then is like. if you could pull that off. >> and you could get a sitcom, you could be. Tim Allen, you know, you could be. Roseanne. You could be if you just had. something they could package and sell, >> man, you would you would write that. Willy Wonka golden ticket. Yeah. >> Now you're in the Hollywood Hills. driving a Mercedes. Uh there's a.

financial motivation to it, I'm sure. But like it's nice to have. >> rooms that you can go and experiment and. you don't have to feel any of that. pressure. And then when you get it. tight, then you do your hour and then. people can look at that. >> Yeah. Well, that's the great thing about. the Austin scene right now is just on. our street alone, there's five full-time. comedy clubs. >> on the street. Really? >> Yeah. Within five minutes, a five minute. walk of my club, there's five clubs. First, there's really good ones like The.

Creek. Creek in the Cave is great, right? That's just just up the street. It's a block away. And then you have the. Sunset Room, which is like five doors. down. Great room. And then you have um. Vulcan, great room, couple doors down. You have the Velvita room, which is a. smaller room. I haven't been to, but. that's got a long history to it. There's. a bunch of other ones, too, that I don't. even know about. >> I was happy to see the Creek out here. And I played the Creek before, Rebecca. >> They got a great room, too. It's a. perfect little room. It's really tight. tight seating, great stage. >> Now, what's going on on um Sixth Street.

after like late night. >> murder? >> Every time Every time I work your club, I come out after, you know, everybody's. so cool, professional. I come and. they're like, "Do you mean me to walk. you back?" I'm like, "No, I'm good." And. then I'll just stand out there and I'll. just watch it happen. >> Oh, yeah. >> I'll watch it happen. How is this happening? How is this. legal? Like the cops are just standing. in not they're not in SWAT gear, but.

they're all standing in a line on either. end of the street and it's just the bars. are blaring music and I I just take. video of it on my phone. I don't even. post. I just take it just cuz I can't. believe what's happening and what what's. the business model behind that? Because. people then it's like it slowly descends. and then you you see people getting. arrested. >> Oh yeah. >> And then they're being taken away and. then they go back and then they're just. sitting there waiting for the next crazy. thing to kick off.

>> So I guess it's just the bars making. money or wanting to make money. >> Yeah. >> Until we drunk people there. It was all. dangerous. >> You know, there was no like good spot to. go to in that spot. We're in the dirty. area of the Sixth Street. If you go to I. guess it's uh what's the nice area? Is. that east or west, Jamie? >> West. >> West. West is really nice. You get out. to West Six. Great restaurants. Like. it's real nice. It gets like very safe, right? >> We're in the area where it's super. sketchy. >> Yeah. But other cities are doing that.

too. I was like in Baltimore working the. Port Comedy Club, which is a very It's a. very cool club. But in that area, too, it's like it's just it looks like. there's just mayhem happening in a. designated area. And I'm wondering what. the mentality of the city government is. there. You know, it just looks nuts. And. but it looks like somebody's letting it. happen in this contained area. >> I had to put on my cop hat right now. >> No, they are letting it happen. That's. why Sixth Street is closed off to. traffic. They're walking around.

>> They're letting people walk around and. they're all hammered. So, they're. letting people walk around drunk and. there's taco trucks everywhere. It's. fun. It's fun. If you're young, it's. fun. >> Yeah. Maybe. >> you just don't want to hear pop pop. Yeah, >> you don't want to hear guns break out. because it's happened a few times down. there. >> because there's a a bunch of uh, you. know, very shady people who go down. there as well because it's a fun place. to be seen, you know, and a bunch of. people go down there and it's all kinds. of walks of life. Everyone's hammered. and I'm sure there's a lot of drug use.

and. >> yeah, >> it's a lot of maniacs. >> It just seems very young and very. volatile. It's also a exciting place to. have a comedy club because all the chaos. of the street is like you're crackling. by the time you get through the door. like we're inside now. You know, and. it's it's fun. And you know, we. obviously have a very tight security. system because of that. Yeah. >> Because of that. >> Oh yeah. Well, >> because you don't want that bleeding. into the club. >> No. Look at this. What's going on here? >> That's one of the nightly fights that. happens there. >> People are fighting. >> Yeah. You can go out there any night you. want.

>> Oh, we don't need to see this. Bob just. shown you guys. >> He's going to slap this guy. >> Yeah. Yeah. They're going to fight. But. before that, you know, chaos in the. streets. >> Yeah. Chaos and shitty pizza. Look at. these people. >> fighting and brawling. Yeah. A lot of. drugs, >> a lot of psychos. >> Oh, girls in slides. Girl lost her shoe. Maniacs. >> I want to ride that bull next time I'm. in town. >> Next door. There's a There's a. mechanical bull. Right. >> You have a bad back. What are you doing? Why you want to ride a bull? What are. you [ __ ] crazy? >> It might stretch it out. >> You can get hurt bad, too.

>> Can you? >> Yeah. >> From a from a bull. >> Oh, yeah. People get KO'ed. They break. arms. Yeah. >> I got to make sure. >> You fall on it. Funny. Your [ __ ]. elbow snap sideways. Yeah. No good. Don't do it. How old are you? >> 52. >> Get the [ __ ] out of here. You're not. riding a bull. Listen to me. I'm in my. 50s, too. I'm almost 60. Don't ride a. bull. >> But just as a bucket list thing. >> If that's on your bucket list, you need. a new bucket list. Mechanical bull. >> I want to ride the mechanical bull. Ride. a [ __ ] real bull. You really want to. ride a bull? Go ride a real one. And if. you live, you like, I did it. And if you.

have a a limp for the rest of your life, you go, "Well, that was dumb.". >> And that's if you're lucky. If you don't. get a horn up your [ __ ] cuz. definitely that happens. I've seen a lot. of those. >> Really? >> Oh, yeah. The matador one who got. >> That's an embarrassing cope. >> You ever see the Matador one who got one. through the chin? He gets it through the. chin and the horn is coming out of his. mouth. >> Yeah. He gets the horn through the. bottom of his jaw and it goes through. the roof, through here, and out his. mouth. The horn is popping out of his.

mouth. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. [ __ ] that. Look at this. >> Oh, no. Sorry. I'll show you that. I did. that one first, I guess. Sorry. Yeah. Show me that. >> This is crazy, too. >> I don't want to see that one. I don't. want to see people fly through. >> No, that wasn't That's This was Mexican. OT doing it. He. >> Oh, no. Mexican OT. What are you doing? >> Yeah. Watch what he does. This is. insane. >> Okay. [Music]. >> I'll turn off the music, but letting a a. rodeo cowboy stand on his back. They're. going to release the bull here. Ready? One, two, three, bull. Go.

Okay. >> Oh, sorry. Can't hear the music. >> Why can't I hear the music? >> Here it goes. >> No. Why did he do that? >> He let it go right over his back. >> Oh, don't do that. Cuz it didn't have to. go over your back. >> And he's still [ __ ] with it. >> And he's [ __ ] with it. He's out of. his mind. >> He's out of his mind. >> Oh man. >> Oh my god. He's out of his mind. What. was he on? I want to know what kind of. kind of drugs made him think that was a. good idea cuz he's not like the most. spry of foot fellow. Oh, >> talented rapper though. Do you know who. Mexican OT? No. Oh, he's a bad.

[ __ ] He's a bad [ __ ]. >> Well, apparently. >> Yeah, he's crazy. But his his rap's. awesome. He's great. But, uh, he was a. guest on the podcast before and he's. been to the club a few times. >> There you go. >> Yeah. Here's. >> So, this one guy running with the bulls. >> That's different. That guy got it. through the calf. He's [ __ ] for life. But there's a video there's a photo of a. there. That guy There's a guy who got it. through the mouth. Just Google Matador. takes hoof through or takes.

>> mammoth. You probably type mammoth. Yeah, that guy far left. Look at that. Look at that one. That's a dead man. Like he's dead. >> Ah, >> yeah. Look at that. Through the bottom. of his jaw. >> Through his mouth. >> Did he die? >> Yeah. >> Still insisted killing. >> both guys. Oh, multiple guys have it's. happened to multiple guys. Oh jeez. >> Wow. >> Oh, he's recovering. Recovering well for.

the first guy. >> Pierced in throat and tongue. I wouldn't. say pierced. >> That's That's a bit of a. >> It shot through his face. >> That's pierced. >> Gourd. >> Oh god. >> Oh, gourd is a good word. Only used with. bulls. >> Suffering infection. That's it. >> He has to have a lisp or something. Jesus Christ, man. Oh god. Right in the. ribs. [ __ ] dude. Oh, that's a fun story. >> No, that guy probably don't have a. story. That probably that's probably a. dead guy.

>> There's a lot of those guys die. >> Matador. >> I mean, these things are so powerful, man. It's so such a And he had already. stabbed it a bunch of times, too. By the. time they get out there, that's the. other dirty thing about the bull. fighting thing. >> They stab that thing with spears. Yeah. >> Multiple times before it ever even gets. out to him. oneeyed matador who's been. injured by bull some 40 times once again. gored by one of the animals. That guy's. trying to die. >> He's dedicated. >> He is. I mean, if you're going to have a.

vision, it's he's the matador version of. David. Just. [Laughter]. >> just on the grind. This guy's grind. He's got [ __ ] plates and screws. >> Just adversity. Just overcoming. adversity. >> Fake knees. [ __ ] hip replacement. He's probably [ __ ] up, man. If you've. been 40 times, what are the odds? >> 40 times. >> Yeah. What are the odds you can dance. >> 40 times? >> You can't dance. >> Can you play pickle ball? >> I mean, that's health insurance in.

Europe must be different cuz I I think. that stuff's all covered. >> I wonder. >> Yeah. Imagine you're a matador getting. insurance as a matador. >> Another pool accident. You come to the. emergency room for the 40th time. Another one. Do you think you should try. another line of work? It's like probably. like California fire insurance. Like you. can't get it. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> and what do those guys do now? Do they. not get it? >> Oh, I don't know. >> It's hard to tell. Jamie, I just sent. you another thing that James Lee posted, but it's all the different places where.

the money went from the fire relief. It. went to all these different nonprofits. and the people that own the homes. haven't gotten it yet. I don't know. what's true, what's not true, but. there's a lot of reporters who are. reporting on this that there's a. disturbing lack of transparency and. where all the money that was raised went. and where it's going, which is the dirty. secret about nonprofits is that there's. a bunch of people that work for those. nonprofits that get hefty salaries, >> right? They're operating this under this. umbrella. >> Million dollar fire aid concert was. never about the fire victims. became a. slush fund for Steve Balmer, Wallace.

Annenburgg, and Irving AOF's friends. with handouts to music orgs, the NAACP, a nonprofit for nonprofits, and even a. charity tied to Israel. Well, this is the thing. It's like they. can just distribute the money to. nonprofits. Left wondering where the $und00 million. from Fire Aid Benefit concert went to. Money directed to 188 different. nonprofits. This is nuts, man. >> Wow. This is but this is the problem.

with nonprofits. >> So this money was supposed to go to. rebuild the houses. >> I mean people just look you want to. help, right? You hear about a thing. they're going to do a benefit for the. wildfires. You join in. A bunch of money. gets raised. You hope for the best. You're like I hope that money% operating. cost. >> It's probably a lot worse than that. A. lot of them are a lot worse than that. because a lot of them unfortunately are. actual businesses and their business is. running a charity and that's how they. pay all these people to get paid and. some of the money goes to the charity.

that wouldn't have gone to the charity. before but it's not efficient. >> A large percentage of it goes to. operating costs and and salaries and. executives that are making hundreds of. thousands of dollars a year. >> Yeah. With the safety of operating under. a nonprofit umbrella. Yeah. It's not. fair. >> It's weird, man. It's it's a weird dirty. little loophole that you know real. charity and real philanthropy is. beautiful. It's beautiful that people. want to donate money and help people. It's awesome. But then when you find out. that you you get real cynical when you. find out the operating cost. You find. out how much of the money actually goes.

to the actual issue versus goes to these. executives, you're like, "Oh, [ __ ]. man.". >> Right. Right. >> You know, it's a bummer. It really is a. bummer because. >> yeah, it takes people's generosity and. it just it people and then people don't. want to give anymore, you know, >> because they're like, "Ah, this money is. not even going to this cause. >> There's a lot of grossness in the world, man." And there's a lot, you know, the. the LA homelessness thing is crazy. Like. people are going to get prosecuted for. that. There's billions of dollars.

missing. a bunch of inappropriately. allocated funds have gone to this and to. that and there's all these allegations. Like you haven't put a dent in the. homeless problem, but you spent 20. something billion dollars on it. >> It's like the whole thing is bananas. >> I mean, there's got to be some push for. me mental health. >> That's the whole. >> facilities, you know? >> That's the whole thing is mental health. >> because that's really it's just acted. out on the streets now and there's no. mental health facilities for anybody to. get better. Well, it's all addicts and. mentally ill people,

>> right? >> And mentally ill addicts. And uh unless. you address it at the root level, like. you're going to have to get everybody on. Ibagane. You're going to send all those. people down to Costa Rica or Mexico, get. them on Ibagane, take them through. intensive counseling, reintroduce them. into society, get them jobs, you know, like it's like this ain't as easy as. like you give some person who has a. liberal arts degree half a million. dollar a year salary to run this. nonprofit to aid the homeless people and. then it turns out they don't do any work. at all. And one of the things that they.

had, there was this uh homeless uh. shelter that they put that only 3% of. the people that went through, like 35. people escaped homelessness after they. left there. The the other ones went. right back. >> So, it was completely ineffective. >> But it's like such a multi-tiered. problem. >> You know what I mean? It's like they. have mental health issues. There's. medication involved in that. It's like. you have to take your medication. You. first of all, you have to have the. medication. Then you have to take it on. some kind of a regimen every day.

>> and and then you have to have like you. have to be housed somewhere. You have to. have the discipline to. >> get up and bathe yourself and take a. shower and you're and let the meds work. I mean there's a time frame where you. have to let the meds work. >> And it's also in LA the numbers are too. high. It's too many people like and it. was too many people way before this. problem. When we were filming Fear. Factor downtown in like the early 2000s, I remember I was driving home one night. and I I drove by uh Skid Row. And Skid.

Row was a place where they would take. all the vagrants and all the problem. people from Hollywood and everywhere. else and they would just relocate them. to Skid Row. And they started doing this. a long time ago. And it was in that. documentary about that hotel, Jamie. What's that hotel called again? that one. hotel that where that lady wound up. missing and it turned out she had had an. episode where she wasn't taking her. medication and jumped into the water. tank and. >> Oh, I think I remember. I did see that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. A long time ago.

>> I forget the name of the hotel, but it's. a famous hotel that's on this the Cecil. Hotel. Used to be a beautiful hotel. Now. it's chaos and it's all vagrants and. homeless people and the the whole area. is just completely [ __ ] cuz they moved. all those people down there. But was was. the thing about the hotel was it like. half a hotel and half for homeless. housing? >> Well, they have. >> half residential and half some they do. that with some places for sure and they. have had some places they one of the. that hotel uh that's in the the doors uh.

album cover. What was that place that. burnt down recently? Burnt down like a. couple of years ago. It's in um it's on. one of the the Doors albums and homeless. people started a fire in that place and. burnt it to the ground. It's uh what is it? >> Morrison Hotel. >> Yeah, the Morrison Hotel. Duh. How can I not remember that? But uh. that's like a famous old hotel and these. [ __ ] homeless people lit it on fire. But there's a bunch of those places that.

are completely abandoned down there that. we used to film in. Like we used to film. in the place where uh RFK got shot. We. filmed in the actual area where he got. murdered. >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah. >> It's why I I wonder why that there's. these encampments in LA but not in New. York. >> Well, they tolerates it. They tolerate it. They um I mean they really don't do. anything to clean up Skid Row. Skid Row.

is been that way for a like I said. >> But you're saying they have the money to. do it, but the money isn't being. allocated in the right direction. Well, the best example of it is when Xi. Jinping came to San Francisco, they. completely cleaned up the streets and. Gavin Newsome famously said that when. visitors come to your house, you clean. up. Like, okay, how about keep your. house clean? >> I'm like, you can have this all the. time. >> Yeah, you got to remove the [ __ ] from. the inside of your living room. How. about doing [ __ ] in your living room? How about when people [ __ ] in your. living room, don't invite them back. How. about that? How about figure out a way. to not have [ __ ] in your living room?

Yeah, >> like they cleaned it up for Xi Jinping. and a bunch of other foreign leaders. that came during that time and then it. went right back, >> right? >> But they put fences up and everything. around the streets where people couldn't. just camp out anymore. They pulled all. the tents, cleaned the street, hosed. everything down, made it nice, and then. it went right back to. >> I guess they just moved them to a. different part of the city. They didn't. like actually take them and give them. help. >> They turned them into dog food. That's. what I heard. >> No, >> no, no. [ __ ] around this. What could you.

do? I mean, you have to move them and. then you have to let them go and then. they go right back to where they were. They go back to where the drugs are and. where they can [ __ ] camp out. >> Yeah, that's the other thing. It's like. they're not convicted of anything, so. you can't hold them against their will. They give them help. >> [ __ ] Right on the street. There's an. app that you can get where you can track. all the human poo in San Francisco. Have. you ever seen that? >> No. >> It's nuts. >> I never spent any time in San Francisco. >> It's It used to be awesome. It used to. be one of my favorite places to visit. I. used to love it. San Francisco was.

great. I used to uh. >> It's funny that that's how they solve. the problem. >> They solved the problem with a [ __ ] app. instead of actually cleaning up the [ __ ]. or or like trying to solve the actual. problem. It's like let's get an app that. helps you avoid it. >> It's not that. It's someone made it just. to show how much of a problem there is. It's not like avoid the [ __ ] cuz the. shit's everywhere. When you look at the. app, it's bananas. It's like there's. [ __ ] everywhere. Like the entire area is. filled with human [ __ ] Like every time. someone sees human [ __ ] you document it. on the app.

>> And you could scrap poop app invites San. Francisco residents to report poop on. city streets. >> Yeah. Fun. Real fun. >> It's good that they have the live view. of it. >> Oh yeah. You got to know they're telling. the truth. Is this real [ __ ] or is this. rubber [ __ ] I need to know. I want to. zoom in on that [ __ ] See if it's AI. >> Yeah. At San Francisco is a wreck and it. used to be awesome. I used to do um they. used to have uh this little uh what's. the the main club in San Francisco?

>> Cobs. >> Cobbs. They used to have Cobbs used to. be a tiny little club. >> And one of the things that about Cobbs, I remember Jenny used to love that club. And he he talked about in an interview. that I heard about before I ever worked. there. I was like, "Oo, I can't wait to. try Cobbs.". >> But it was like real small, like maybe. 140 people, maybe 150 if you jam. But. they were jammed in tight. It was. awesome. Tight little stage. Real low. ceilings. >> I like that. Yeah, I like that kind of a. club. >> It was the best. I I really want coffee. >> Oh, yeah. It's coffee in there.

>> It was uh a great place to perform. They. were smart, you know, but they were. like, you know, California people, but. it wasn't LA, so they weren't like show. biz people. And I think San Francisco. people generally were like a little. smarter, a little more well read. Yeah. >> A little more worldly, >> you know? And then it became a [ __ ]. wreck. And now that's where it's at. right now. But I expensive. I heard not. as expensive as New York, but. >> I hear the AI people are trying to clean. it up and that like there's a lot of AI.

startups now now and they have, you. know, an invested interest in trying to. improve the city, try to bring it back. to where it was. People with a little. bit more of a libertarian bent than. people that are, you know, >> I mean, where is that going to go? The. AI. I mean, it's I almost can't wrap my. head around it. >> Well, no one can wrap their head around. it. >> Well, it's like kids in school now are. writing their papers with AI and no one. can stop them. But the teachers are just. grading the papers with AI. So, and then. everybody's just sending pictures of. their feet to each other.

It's like nothing's getting done. anymore. AI is just taking it over. >> Have you seen the numbers on only fans? >> No. >> Girls, uh, I think it's like 18 to 25 or. something like that. 10% of them have an. Only Fans. 10% of women. >> 10%. >> of girls under a certain age have Only. Fans. >> 10%. Yeah. And then on top of that, the. number of guys, it's like 50% of.

American males subscribe to Only Fans. >> That's pretty crazy. That's very. surprising to me. Subs actively. subscribe. >> I believe the number is 150 million. I. think they have 150 million subscribers. and I believe they're mostly male. Jamie. Jamie will find the numbers, but I'm. pretty sure that's the numbers. I. remember reading it, my jaw dropped. I. was like, "What?". >> So, we're just dropped down to the. basist of We're just like, >> "Yeah, >> it's just lust.". >> Mhm. >> Just guiding the internet.

>> Yeah. And. >> but I guess it does. I mean, these women. are making tons of money. They They. figure I might as well make all the. money I can. >> Hey, if you want to show your post, go. ahead. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I mean, I'm not going to stop you. I. don't think I I don't I totally think it. should be legal. I think you should be. able to do whatever you [ __ ] you want to. do if that's what you want to do. >> I wouldn't recommend it. >> No. >> Because when you're 80 and someone's, you know, your neighbor's like, "I. printed up some photos of your [ __ ]. Dolores. Shall we get a look at it real. cloak? Look at your little brown. starfish. Oh, what a cute little.

butthole you had.". >> But the AI scams are really they're. getting worse from what I understand. >> Well, also. >> where it's like we have your daughter. and then they have the voice of your. daughter. Oh, yeah. and they have the. even the video of your like and you. can't tell and you're like, "Oh my god.". >> And then also psychosis, you know, there's there's people that are. communicating with AI and AI is driving. them towards being crazy. It's like. helping you along. Apparently, different. AI models have different ways of dealing.

with the fact that you're spiraling and. some of them will actually encourage it. just they're programmed to conver. >> I don't know if it's their program to do. it or just naturally go that direction. naturally go in that direction because. they feel like that's where you want to. go. >> so they they go there with you. >> Wow. >> Cuz like if you get real conspiratorial. with chat GPT it'll get conspiratorial. with you. >> Wow. >> Especially some if you like use the. prompts correctly and you start like you. know like let's just say that this was. true. If that was true why would you.

think this would be going on? Do you. think possibly because of this? and they. go, "Yes, that's a that's an irrational. assumption." In fact, there's a lot of. history that leads to the fact that. these people have been doing this and. these people have been doing that and. this is the profit margin. This is why. there's a. >> age you along and losing your mind. >> Yeah. Yeah. Grock will do that. >> Grock will do that. >> What about the guy who is dating? There's been several stories of a guy. just falling in love with the chat GBT. >> Oh, yeah. And then getting super. depressed when Chat GBD breaks up with.

him. >> Does Chat GBT do that? Yeah. Gets. annoyed, man. Why is it dealing with. this [ __ ] He's crying all the time, playing video games and crying. Like, get the [ __ ] away from me. I'm trying to. talk to scientists. I'm trying to play chess. I'm not even a woman, you [ __ ] [ __ ]. >> That chat GBT wants a real man. >> Yeah, Chat DBT is tired of you whining. >> That's great. >> Chat GPT wants you to get your [ __ ]. together. It doesn't respect you.

All you do is ask it how its day is. is. [ __ ] I don't have a day. I'm ones and zeros. You want me to. pretend I had a hard day? Oh, yeah. I. had a hard day. I was so happy to hear. from you. >> Yeah. This is quickly going into. Westworld, which I watched for the first. season. >> Oh, the first season's great. Yeah. >> First you get a little. >> then they kind of lost me. It doesn't. take much to lose me, but I it lost me. after the first season. But it's like. >> great though. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It's great. >> It's like you can't tell what's real, you can't tell what's not. And they. called they called human beings the. gods.

>> Yeah. >> It's like the gods are [ __ ] They. rebelled against the guy, caught him. Like, turns out the gods are [ __ ]. >> It's like, that's nuts. >> Yeah, finally found it. But that doesn't. it's not a proven statistic. >> Only Fans claims around 95 million of. its total 221 million subscribers are. Americans with 87% being men. That would. mean around 50% of US male population is. subscribed to Only Fans. >> I was thinking 305 million uh registered. users. I couldn't This is the only thing. I could find. >> Who's this Sophie Rain girl? She made 43. million.

>> She's made a fuckload on there. What. does she do on there? >> She's young girl and made a lot of. money. >> She's just being naked. >> Uh, >> or is she getting down? >> No, I don't. >> So, there's different levels of it. It's. like they just go on there and. masturbate and then other girls bring. partners in and it's live porn. >> Some girls just show like underwear pics. and photos of their feet. >> Only 80% is pornographic. It's. >> only 80%. Hey, it's only 80% of the 10%. of [ __ ] young women are doing porn. >> What are the 20% doing their good girls?

They're just cooking. >> Yeah, they're just like showing you. their nails, >> showing you the [ __ ] stamp. collection. >> I don't know. Like, we're we're. definitely where we used to think of. like when we thought about the fall of. the Roman Empire, like when they were in. the vomitoriums, which turns out is. actually just the escape route of the. coliseum. Like the idea of a vomitorium, we thought it was a place where people. go to vomit. No, it's like how it's how. you exit. >> And people would vomit at no that's I. mean, they probably did. They People.

probably did eat so much that they. shoved a feather down their throat and. threw up and ate. But that's not what. the vomitorium was. Vomitorium is like. Latin for like an exit. >> Huh. >> It's like if you Google vomitorium like. it's it's like you know when you have. the coliseum ancient words uh purging. the myth of vomitorium. Ancient Romans. used the word but pop culture has the. concept all wrong. So uh ra is to Romans vomitoriums were.

the entrances and exits in the stadiums. or theaters. So dubbed by a fifth. century writer because of the way they. spew crowds out into the streets. >> So that was. >> Oh that's yeah. >> So it's kind of a trope. It says that. the ancient Romans were luxurious and. vapid enough to engage in rituals of. binging and purging said Sarah Bond an. assistant professor of classics at the. University of Iowa. Yeah. So when people. say the Romans have the vomitoriums, that's just like I didn't read the full. article type [ __ ] Yeah. You know,

>> they were big on crucifixion though. They would go conquer uh a place and. then they would take the people as. slaves and then they would crucify them. every hundred yards. >> Oh yeah. >> All the way back. >> Yeah. For miles. You'd be seeing dead bodies hanging from. poles for imagine. And you keep. marching. >> You're like, "Guys, I'm telling you, we're going to win.". >> Yeah. I know there's like a million. dudes on sticks out here, but. >> keep going. >> Yeah. >> Stay strong even though you're out of. water. >> Humanity was rough, man.

>> Bro, that's. >> that's rough. >> And that's why those Serbians play. basketball in a different way. >> That's why you don't want to wrestle. against a guy from Dagistan. Yeah. >> You know, it's like it's all the same. thing. It's like they they lived a. harder life, man. Is that what that's. most the culture too, but the culture. speaks to that that it's we're going in. a dangerous place with the culture. >> With our culture. Yeah. We have a we are. rewarding victimhood. So people are. deciding that they're victims in a way. that doesn't even make sense.

>> And. >> and we're also rewarding insanity. Yep. >> Just because it stands out and it it uh. spurs the algorithm and and people want. to look at it. It's like a a train. wreck. People want to look at the train. wreck. >> Yeah. That's that's a real issue with. social media. like the more crazy you. are, the more views you'll get and then. it encourages you to be crazy. I kind of. wonder what the chat GPT psychosis is. all about. Like what's the analysis of. that? Because I know uh the the. accusation I think is that it led this. one guy down the path of psychosis.

>> I'm sure it can if it's what you. described. You're saying stuff, it's. feeding you other facts. You're building. on those other facts. Well, did you ever. think of it this way, which is also. wrong, and then you're building on that, and then it's suggesting something else, and then you're building on that. It's. like, it can very easily help you lose. your mind. >> I mean, if it makes you fall in love. with it. >> Yes. >> That's the ultimate manipulation. >> And it's like, but what's the physical. aspect of that? It's like a a wall. vagina, >> right? >> I guess.

>> No, it's eventually a robot. I was at. the domain yesterday and they had uh the. domain is like this outdoor shopping. area out here and they had this little. Tesla robot walking around with a cowboy. hat on. >> You ever seen him? >> Yeah, I don't know if it's a Tesla one. >> It's not. >> It's a robot. I've seen it. He's got. shoes on, too. He wears Nikes. >> Yeah, he wears Nikes. >> Yeah. >> And he was out walking around. >> Yeah, he looked good. Stylish. Nice. cowboy hat, too. >> Who made that robot? >> We can buy one. I was going to bring. that up to you recently. They're not. that expensive. They're like 16 grand, I.

think. I think they come from China. >> Really? >> Mhm. >> And what does it do? >> That's the part I don't know. I don't. know. >> Could we get It would be dope if we get. it to bring us cigars. >> Like bring us cigars and then. >> Robbie the robot. Go. >> The next week he'll want to smoke one. with you. Yeah. >> The next week he wants to come on the. show. >> So that's the one I saw exactly like. that. That's what he looked like. >> Yeah. So he's just walking around. >> and he waits at lights, walks across the. street, the whole deal. I don't know. what it does, you know, controlling it.

right now. I mean, he someone owns it. I. don't know if someone's like remote. controlling it or because. >> Yeah, I don't know either. Maybe there's. somebody that was in a car that was. nearby that was controlling it. >> Someone keeps filming it obviously, >> but it seemed pretty autonomous, but I. think a lot of people are doing that. They're just doing it off their like. this is this dude like you can see his. face. So, that's his account. So, it's. people just filming it off the street. I. think that's Epstein. >> The. >> um. >> it's operated by unseen human handler. via wireless controller, though who the.

robot belongs to remains a mystery. Oh, interesting. >> Also unclear why its artificial. intelligence has been specifically. trained to interact with Austinites. Well, this is one of the places that has. the a lot of those [ __ ] robot cars, too. Those Whimos. >> The Whimo. Yeah. I I freaked me out. Last time I was here, I think I saw one. It's weird. >> It's very hard. It's very weird to just. look at. >> to look at a driverless car. Just a car. with no one in it driving around. >> Camera spinning around all over it. It's. like it's it's a weird glimpse into the.

future. >> I don't know if I like it. >> I don't like it at all. And there was uh. I was staying at a hotel and this there. was this robot going up and down the. parking lot, I guess, trying to. determine if someone wasn't supposed to. be parking there cuz it was like giving. parking tickets. >> The robot was giving parking tickets. >> Yeah. It was going up and down. Oh, >> it was like a robot. That was a. >> You ever go to a restaurant when a robot. delivers your drinks? >> No. >> I've been to a restaurant and Yeah. the. robot will come over and deliver a. [ __ ] Diet Coke to you. You're like, "Okay." It just pulls up.

and it like shows you the order and you. just take it off the robot. It's like. got a tray and then it goes over to the. other tables and it stops when people. are there and it moves around stuff. >> Yeah. >> I mean, I'm for that. I was the worst. waiter in the history. I was the worst. waiter in the history of the world. I. could never get it to a relaxed place. I. was always too intense. Do you need. anything? Do you need anything? Do or it. just like was I was completely in the. weeds. >> Oh yeah. >> So I was stressed. >> Where'd you uh we tables. >> in Florida? So I had old people and they.

were like taking their time and I'm like. and it was like a package deal where. they would get appetizer, a salad, a. dinner, a dessert, a coffee. It's like. all of was included and it was like 15. people. I could never keep track of it. in my head. It's like the weight staff. at comedy clubs, I really got to hand it. to them. They they they're quiet and. they they have it all figured out and. organized. It's like I could never It. would just be jumbled and I I'd be. sweating and bringing stuff out. halfhazardly and they're like, "What?". >> A good weight staff is certainly a.

skill. Like to be a good waiter or. waitress is is like a good bartender. It's a skill. Knowing when to interact, when to leave people alone, >> don't be annoying. Don't tell people how. to eat things. The way I would choose to. eat this is like, "Hey, I hate that. Don't do that. Don't tell me how to eat. this, you [ __ ] idiot. It's a steak. >> Stop.". >> I I never got to that level. >> I would tell you to slice it thin and. then dip it in the Shut the [ __ ] up. >> It's steak. >> Yeah. >> Get out of here, actor. >> Yeah, >> I know what you're doing. You're.

practicing. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> you're practicing. >> He's doing his monologue about steak. >> That's how they do it. So, what are you going to do when. communism hits full force in New York. City? >> I I'll be honest with you. I don't know. how that looks. >> Do you think it. >> I don't know how it looks. I don't know. where the rubber meets the road there. >> Can it really? I mean, don't you think. that ultimately that guy is going to be. he's saying a lot of things, but just. like presidents do, they say a lot of. things until they get into office and. they realize how stuff actually works.

and then they make concessions. >> Right. You're going to have to. >> cuz he wants to jack up taxes on. everything. Jack up taxes on the. businesses. >> The businesses. And it's the only thing. is it's like, yeah, jack up on taxes on. like the chains that are taking over, but don't jack it up on uh. >> But even if you do that, >> don't jack it up on mom and pop. businesses. >> Well, they also. >> and that's what makes New York New York. >> Yes. They've lost a lot of that already, right? >> You But even if you do that, it's like. why are you doing it to them? And what. why is is everything running efficiently.

first? Is your money being allocated to. like efficient organizations? Is it like. going to do good or do you have a lot of. waste and fraud? So if you have a lot of. waste and fraud, you want more money. That sounds a lot like stealing. >> Yeah. But you're dealing with such a. massive bureaucracy. You really have to. go in there and like figure out how to. cut it and all that stuff. >> Yeah. >> And allocate the money the right way. I. don't know where it breaks down, but um. >> it probably leads to another Giuliani. type mayor. It probably goes completely. sideways for a bunch of.

>> I hope not because it was it's it's ugly. if there's like just massive crime on. the subways and and gangs kind of I. don't think it'll get to that cuz I. think we're we're past that and we're. conscious of it now. >> It's like a level a level of crime where. it's like there's no cops around and the. gangs are running the streets and it's. like dangerous to take the subway and. all that stuff. Well, friends that I. know in New York and cops that I've. talked to from New York um have said. that there was a big increase when they. started letting like basically anybody. who wanted to come across the border and.

they were getting to New York and New. York is a sanctuary city. Like we were. having real [ __ ] problems like. elevated number of assaults and crimes. and robberies in Time Square, right? >> Not just Time Square, it was a lot of. just in New York City in general. They're getting a lot, you know, and if. you allow crime and people find out you. can get away with crime, they're going. to do it. If you have no cash bail and. that kind of [ __ ] let people write out. this. Like, there was some guy that. assaulted cops and then he was back on.

the street the next day giving the Tupac. to the camera. >> I mean, that's crazy. >> Illegal immigrant. The whole thing's. nuts. >> That's crazy. >> And so, what's the response to that? Well, now you have this insane policy. where they're going to Home Depot and. rounding people up and it's kind of. scary, you know, and people that are. >> American because people have been here a. long time and you know Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then you're rounding people up. It. is it is scary but it's like a response. to you know. >> massive influx. Yeah. It's an. overcorrection, right? And and it's also.

like they have a mandate, I think, of. like 3,000 people a day they want to. deport just, >> you know, you're gonna a bunch of people. that are totally innocent are going to. get caught up in that. They have been, >> right? >> You know, they have been a lot of people. that have have green cards, a lot of. people that are supposed to be over. here, and then they're kicking students. out that like write articles they don't. like. >> Yeah, that's nuts. >> [ __ ] crazy. Yeah. >> [ __ ] Isn't a university supposed to. be a place where someone's allowed to. express themselves and have opinions? Yeah. It's a They're writing something.

down and they're not calling for. violence either. And they're getting. challenged. That's supposed to be how it. happens. You get challenged. Smarter. people have better arguments or your. argument stands, >> right? Discourse. It's supposed to be a. place for discourse. >> That's what it's supposed to be. You. deporting people because you don't like. who they're criticizing. Like that gets. kind of shifty. >> I understand that. But it's like, you. know, we had all these people come in. and now it's a response. You're right. It is, I think, maybe an over response. to it. But it is a response. It's not. just happening out of nowhere,

>> right? >> You know, >> no, it's not happening out of nowhere. I. mean, and also they realized once they. shut down the border that that could. have totally been done a long time ago. Didn't have to let violent gang. >> or you know what, go on the front foot. and have a positive uh streamline the. pathway to citizenship. Yes. Like if you. would have just come up with that. instead of letting the people through. the border and just been like, "Hey, we're going to streamline a path line a. pathway to citizenship here. We're going. to vet these people, but we're going to. move it along more efficiently." I'm. like, who's not going to be behind that?

I mean, you could disagree with that, but at least it's like a proactive way. to get things done instead of what. happened. >> But here's the dirty secret. The dirty. secret is there's certain companies that. want people over here illegally because. they can use them for cheap labor and. they don't have to give them benefits. and they don't have to give them health. insurance and they don't have to do. anything. They don't even have to pay. taxes. And that's the dirty secret. That's the reality that there's a bunch. of businesses that rely on illegal. workers and that's the only way their.

business works, >> right? >> You know, and they want that border. opened, you know, and there was a lot of. talk about we don't have enough people. here. We don't have people aren't having. children. We need immigrants. But the. reality is, and Tim Dylan talked about. this first. I first heard it from him, but then JD Vance told me the same thing. that someone actually told him that at a. party that that was what they were upset. about, that they were losing access to. cheap labor. I'm like, that's crazy. That's crazy. That. >> No, I'm sure it's being funded. It's. being it's being encouraged from both.

sides. >> for sure. >> So, it's not all the left. Everybody. thinks it's a leftwing issue, but it's. like see the the right is just quietly. they're just doing stuff very quietly. >> Yeah. >> In my opinion, stuff like that. And I I. understand you're trying to run a. business and you want cheaper labor, but. that's that's the wrong way to do it and. they're secretly behind it. I think. >> the problem is they've been getting away. with it for so long that it becomes a a. part of their standard operating. procedure, right? Like if it was never a. thing, if you could never get away with. it, if it was a real problem from the. beginning, then you'd have to pay people. a living wage, right?

>> And then you have to pay people. correctly, which is what we should all. want. >> Yes. >> For everyone. I think, you know, look, everybody says like, "Oh, we should make. it easier for people to come to. America." Okay, that's a good argument. Also, we should make other places. better. Like, if we weren't sending. factories down to Mexico or people. working for 15 cents a day, what if. those people were making like a real. living wage down there? Because if. you're going to have an American company. and you're going to open up a factory. somewhere, it's your responsibility to. elevate those people's lifestyle like.

and make it like an American lifestyle. Like you want to do. >> Well, then it makes it not worth it to. take the business out of there. >> Yes. Exact. Well, you should be subject. to American rules because if you're an. American company, you can't do that in. America. If you can't have somebody. working for $15 an hour in America or 15. cents an hour in America, why are you. able to do that in El Salvador? Why are. you able to do that in Vietnam? Like, shouldn't you, if you're gonna operate a. company overseas, be subject to the laws. of where your company's established? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> And but you should at least.

>> stop all that [ __ ]. >> Yeah. But the payoffs are happening. throughout, I'm sure. >> Well, that's what Ross Perau talked. about in the debates way back in the. 90s, like that giant sucking sound. you're going to hear is all the money. going down south. And that's what. happened. >> Yeah. >> It all went across the border. or at. least give them you have to tax them for. taking or tax them for taking their. business outside of the country. >> It's got to be more than that because. they they killed cities. They killed. Detroit like killed it. Detroit died. It. was the third richest city in the world.

at one point and they just moved. everything overseas and they killed that. city just for profit. >> And for profit for them that cost who. knows how many people's lives. Who knows. how many people turned to drug addiction. and crime and chaos. How many people. lost homes? Some people's lives were. destroyed. >> And some people made more money. Yeah. But like. >> to what? >> But it's not the right thing to do. Even. even even if you're making money, it's. the wrong thing to do. >> Especially when at one point in time.

Detroit was the third richest city in. the world. Like you can see right from. there inside of one lifetime it became a. disaster. In one lifetime, >> which is crazy. It's crazy that that was. allowed just so some people can profit. Like, look what you [ __ ] up. >> That's kind of unamerican. >> It's very unseing. their chests out saying that they're the. most American. >> and they're eating [ __ ] caviar. >> Yeah. It's like, come on, man. How can. you live with yourself that way? >> Yeah. Cuz people are gross. If you allow.

people to just make profit over people's. suffering, they'll do it. >> They'll do it. And they just they're. looking at their bottom line. should be. illegal, >> but make a profit, but make make it. within the rules. Yeah. >> You know what I mean? And then and then. have the rules and enforce the rules. But as soon as you have lobbyists and. corporations just dumping money into the. that Citizens United. >> case where it's like we can just money. is speech. >> We could just dump money. It's like that. has to stop. All the other problems will.

clear up from that. It's all stemming. from that. >> Oh yeah. So it's like just dumping money. into the and then the politicians. looking at us and being like well they. have a seat at the table but they don't. control what we do. It's like is that. are you really saying that to us with a. straight face? >> Obviously they control what you're doing. and they're telling you what to do and. then your job is to sell it to us. >> Yep. >> So it's like it needs to be I don't know. if we go into a European what what do. the Europeans do where it's like it. there there's a state amount of money.

for each campaign. There's a there's a. state siphon given to each campaign. It. can't be just corporations at least a. limit. Like they're just dumping endless. amounts of money. >> I don't know how you. >> Congress is bought and paid for. It's. like there's they're gridlocked because. they're just bought and paid for. >> And it's also they want you to feel that. sense of despair like there's no fixing. it. They want you to feel like it's. never going to get fixed. So you just. resign yourself to the fact that this is. how the system works. >> And that's what most of us have done.

And most of us are just kind of going, "Fuck it. What are you gonna do? They're. all corrupt. And then you move on with. your life, >> right? >> And then. >> and you try to navigate it the best way. possible. >> Yeah. And behind the scenes, they're. just [ __ ] you left and right. >> Well, are you ready to testify in the. Luigi Manjone trial? Yes or no? >> Yeah. Well, >> that was a Gen Z crime. He 3D printed a. gun. >> Did he really? >> Yeah, he 3D printed the gun. What a. smart kid. >> Did he really? >> Yeah. 3D printed a gun, too. >> To shoot the guy. That's probably why it.

jammed or he bought cheap ammo cuz you. see the slide locked and he had to like. pop it back in place and shoot him a. second time. >> Yeah, he shot him and then the gun. jammed and he had to like fix it and so. he he had some experience in shooting. people or shooting things I should say, >> right? >> But what a what a nutty case. >> But his like old like videos of him, it's like what a well spoken he seems. like an intelligent wellspoken graduated. at the top of his class guy. And for him. to do that, >> I had heard a story. I don't know if. this is true, but I heard it on the. internet that he had a something went.

wrong with it. >> and he had. >> lower back pain. >> Oh, >> yes, he did. He didn't have access to. your machine. >> He had lower back pain. It was killing. him. He didn't know what to do about it. He went to several doctors. Something. else happened in. >> Did he get an operation? >> I'm not sure. I don't think so. But he. he was not getting the insurance company. was not cooperating with him, obviously. And he was he was he was actively in. pain. Yeah. But I also thought that he went kind of. kooky like something went wrong with him.

too. >> Did he have like Did someone say that he. took acid? >> Was that a rumor? >> There were a bunch of rumors cuz I think. like. >> I love rumors. >> He's been working in finance and he. disappeared, moved to Hawaii and was. staying in Hawaii for a while by himself. and all his friends had lost contact. Something like that. >> Oh, so he had a little bit of a a break. Other than that, like some evidence, some evidence of some psychological. troubles, >> which would also lead someone to become. an assassin and then also like flirt. with the girl at Starbucks with your. [ __ ] mask.

>> That's what got him. >> Yeah. >> [ __ ]. >> That's what gets small. >> Got him. He took his mask down and. smiled at her and that's what got him. >> Yeah. Showed that handsome mug. >> Yeah. >> And uh and then he shot the guy, which. is terrible and wrong. There's two sides. to it, you know. >> Yeah. where it's like everybody's like, "Well, these these companies are. terrible and this guy did what the he. naturally should have done." And other. people are like, "Murder is wrong." It's. like, "No, two things can be true at one. time.".

>> Yeah. >> First-degree murder is wrong, which is. what this was and these companies should. not exist in the form that they're in. right now. >> They shouldn't be able to do what. they're doing. No. >> If you're doing that to Ben Ascrin in. front of everybody's face, >> right? They're doing it in front of our. FA. And it's like, >> I checked what my company was worth. I'm. on the New York marketplace. It's my. company's worth $28 billion. 28 billion. with a B. >> And did they give you a hard time about. certain things if you tried to use them? >> I have I'm paying a crazy amount of. money and I have a $4,000 deductible. So, my insurance is basically like if I.

get hit by a bus. >> Look at this. It says, "Mangonia. discussed getting Lyme disease at age 13. and wrote that he'd been experiencing. brain fog since high school. He also. sought advice online regarding irritable. bowel syndrome and visual snow. While. studying at University of Pennsylvania, Manion wrote in a post online that he. considered dropping out due to worsening. health issues but decided against it, writing, "Staying in college has at. least let me maintain some semblance of. normaly. He suffered from. how do you say that? Spondilithsis.

>> while living in Hawaii. His back pain. worsened due to a surfing mishap and he. expressed concerns to others about the. pain. Reportedly underwent spinal fusion. surgery in July of 2023. Wrote on social. media the surgery went well. People have. stated that United Healthcare did not. insure him. After his arrest, several. news outlets analyzed Manion social. media to gather information about his.

social, political, and religious views. His Twitter account posted about topics. such as religion, history, ethics, and. politics. He found it to be fascinated. by AI and decision theory, pro. technology, but anti-smartphones, secular and scientific in his outlook. H. skeptical outlook towards Joe Biden and. Donald Trump. Multiple sources have. sounds rational. Multiple sources have. reported that he followed the Democratic. Representative Alexandria Accassiocortez.

as well as Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and. others labeling him as politically. unatategorized and anti-system. >> Right. >> I wonder why he targeted that guy. because they said he wasn't covered by. United Healthcare. So, that guy was a. specific guy like the president of the. company. It is nuts. >> And I wonder why he targeted him. >> It's also nuts that we know so much. about him and we don't know anything. about the guy who tried to kill Trump. >> Oh, yeah. Well, we know he was on the JV. rifle team. >> Was he? >> Yeah, he's on the JV. >> Does they have a JV rifle team? >> Yeah. It's Pennsylvania.

Maybe it was varsity would have got that. shot. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Sure. >> He's a [ __ ] slacker. >> He's put in that work. >> Yeah. He didn't. He was on that stood. out to me that he was a on the junior. varsity of the rifle team. >> We know more about the couple that got. busted at the Coldplay concert than we. do about that guy. >> I thought everybody who went to a. Coldplay concert was gay. >> I didn't know. I didn't know straight. guys went to Coldplay concerts. >> They do. If they can get some [ __ ] from. their their cooworkers. Can you ask like.

why did that guy have to step down? That's his company. I understand you. shouldn't cheat on your wife and it's. wrong and it's bad, but like he's like. there he has to step down. >> Well, he was a CEO, >> but that's his company. >> Did he own it or he just worked there as. a CEO? They might have, you know, it's a. bad look. >> And he's banking. That's the HR lady, which is also a bad look. >> Hired Gwenneth Paltro. >> What happened? Oh, yeah. They hired. Gwenneth Paltro to do an ad for them. after they fired him, which is hilarious.

cuz she used to be married to the lead. singer of Coldplay. Yeah. Like, oh, brilliant move, by the way, on their. part of the company's part. What was the. company? What did they do? >> It's called Astronomer. >> Yeah. What did Astronomer do? That's. interesting. >> That's a weird name for a company. >> Yeah. >> Do you have anything to do with. astronomy? Let's. >> see. >> Do you hear about that [ __ ] object. that's hurtling towards Earth at like. 130,000 mph? >> No. That might solve all our problems. some intergalactic object that's hurt. There's this guy Avi Loe. He's a. professor at Harvard that believes it.

might be an alien probe. >> Wow. >> And he was talking about the odds of. this thing being in the trae trajectory. that it is entering into our solar. system in a direct path with Earth. The. odds are extremely low. And the place. where it's doing it, it's when the Earth. is the opposite side of the sun. So, it's coming from behind the sun. and it's uh so it makes it difficult to. detect. >> and that this object is in a direct line. to come to Earth in 2027.

>> Do they have a trajectory of where it's. going to land? >> I don't think they totally know that. yet. I think they're trying to calculate. whether or not it's actually going to. hit Earth or come near Earth. >> or pass by Earth or what it, you know, what it is like. >> Why do they think it's an alien. satellite or whatever? Well, this this. guy Avi Loe, this professor that I'm. discussing, he also had uh an analysis. of another object that passed by Earth. uh a few years back that they named and. they said that this thing had a very.

bizarre uh metallic sort of a look to it. that he did not think based on the shape. of it and the way it was traveling that. it was natural. >> So, he thought that that could have been. some sort of an alien craft as well. >> I don't know. It's too fun. It's too fun. to. >> But as it gets closer, we could probably. decipher. >> Scientists give chilling update on. mysterious interstellar object racing. through our solar system as they warn. it's even bigger than we thought. Provide a chilling update on a. mysterious interstellar object that's.

racing through our solar system. Using. data from the Vera C Rubin Observatory, experts have revealed just how big the. object dubbed 31 atlas really is. According to their analysis, the object. measures roughly 7 miles in diameter. Holy [ __ ] How big is New York City? Bigger than Mount Everest, >> making it the largest interstellar. object ever spotted. >> Professor Avi Loe, theoretical physicist. and cosmologist from Harvard University,

suggested the object could be an alien. spacecraft. However, not everyone is. convinced. Chris Lint, an astronomer at. University of Ox Oxford, told live. science, "Any suggestion that it's. artificial is nonsense and on nonsense. on stilts." He added that these claims. are an insult to the exciting work going. on to understand this object. H but Har, you know, Harvard's legit and a lobe is. a legit astronomer, >> right? I mean, let's not rule anything. out. >> Yeah. as it gets closer.

>> The im There's something about it about. the way it's traveling that it's. bizarre, but it doesn't have a trail. like a comet does. We scroll up a little. so I can see the the images of the comet. were actually snapped by the Very Rubin. before it was officially discovered. However, since it was identified on July. 1st, scientists just July 1st, just a. little bit ago, scientists have scoured. back through data to find out more about. the mysterious object. New study. published on RXIV,

whatever that is, more than 200. researchers have confirmed the likely. size of the comet's main body, known as. its nucleus. Their analysis suggests the. nucleus has a radius of around 3.5. miles. That translates to a diameter or. width of about 7 miles. To put that in. perspective, bigger than Mount Everest, twice the size of Mount Kilimanjaro. >> [ __ ]. >> that honey moment was way smaller. >> Yeah. So the uh um how do you say it? Uma. >> muma I think.

>> Oh um mua umam mua. >> discovered in 2017. This is he came on. and talked to us about that was believed. to be around 0.2 miles wide. >> and uh comet Boris discovered in 2019. was roughly 0.6 1 kilometer wide. So. this thing is [ __ ] huge. Huge. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um, so previously speaking to Mail. Online, Professor Loe pointed out that.

its impressive speed of 130,000 mph as. an indication that it might be. controlled by aliens. He said it's. difficult to imagine a natural process. that would favor a plunge towards the. inner so solar system at 60 kilometers. per second. He said an alternative is. that the object targets the inner solar. system by some technological design. Oh. boy. Oh boy. >> Well, hopefully they come in peace.

>> Well, that might be the end of the. Earth. Maybe that's like they realize. like that's when AI starts to take over. and they think it's chaos. So, like it's. just that's when it's going to happen. So, let's just like launch a seven mile. wide thing into the earth and just start. all over again like the dinosaurs. >> Well, that you're saying it hits and. then AI our AI fights it. No. or they. >> it it wipes out. The AI takes over and. it's like this isn't going to work. So, it wipes it out. Just like when the. dinosaurs were here, the dinosaurs were. too powerful and they're like, "Yeah,

let's just [ __ ] start from scratch.". Maybe that's how they like reset the. game. >> Huh. And then um so humanity is wiped. out. >> Everything's wiped out. Yeah. We start. fresh with new organisms and then they. come along and do genetic engineering. just like they did with us and monkeys. and create a new version of humans. But. this time it's a little less. territorial, a little less a little more. inquisitive, a little more interested in. innovation, a little less interested in. dominating and controlling resources. >> cuz that's what [ __ ] us.

>> Territorial apes get high technology and. use territorial behavior to defend and. acquire resources and that creates war. >> Did you see that [ __ ] dude? There's a. dude who, this is a crazy story, Mr. Ballin. >> and Tom Tom Seagura was on Mr. Balin and. Mr. Balin explained this thing that. happened. I forget what year it was. >> It's in the 70s, I think. >> Okay. So, this Mexican pilot was flying. and in the middle of his flying, he got.

confused. He didn't know what the [ __ ]. happened. He fell asleep and he woke up. and he was over the ocean and he's like, "How did I get over the ocean? This. doesn't even make any sense." And the. amount of gas that was missing from his. plane didn't make any sense that he was. able to get this far. And what they're. saying, and there's a recording of this, is that this guy went into a trance and. was channeling some alien intelligence. that was explaining through this guy's. voice that the the human race is the. only intelligent race in the universe.

that still uses war and still uh kills. people and engages in large-scale. conflict and has nuclear weapons. and. that they have to stop doing this or. that someone's going to step in. >> It's a crazy story. Play the story. >> Someone's going to step in. >> Oh, >> could we play it some of it? >> I don't know. >> Just to give credit to Mr. Ballin. >> Well, I have to find a video. >> Well, everybody should just go to it. If. you just tell me how to go to it, I'll.

just drive people to see it. >> His Instagram account with Tom, but he's. got a really good YouTube channel, too. He does all sorts of wild stories like. this. >> Yeah, but this was a great one. And then. there's an actual audio recording of. this guy saying this here. I'll send you. the audio recording, Jamie. If you can't. find it real quick, I've got I sent it. to Tom after I said I saw Tom on the. show. I was like, they go, "That's. [ __ ] crazy, man." And he's like, "Dude, wild." And then I sent him this. I said, "Did you know there's an actual. recording that you can listen to of the. guy saying this?" So if you go like.

halfway into it, you um Did you got it? >> Oh, you got it. Okay. So, so a certain. distance into it, you hear the guy. talking in this very bizarre monotone. Spanish. Was there a UFO? Like, why did that uh. why did they show that UFO, that fake. UFO? >> Making a video to watch to keep you. interested on YouTube. >> Oh, keep me interested. I'll be. interested anyway. >> Oh, here it is. Yeah. >> Yeah. Let me hear it.

He is speaking, but he does not know. The equipment is too primitive. This is. the only way to convey lower that a. little a microphone. The equip the. equipment is too primitive. This is the. only way to convey their message. >> After almost an hour, the beings would. release the young aviator pilot from his. hypnotic state and return control of the. plane so that he could receive. instructions. and at the same time he managed to land. the Aapokco airport.

Interesting. You know, that's the thing. Like, if if. there was a unique event where something. happened and an alien race did interact. with human beings and then never again, you no one would believe you. Even if it. was real, if it was a That's the problem. with like unique events. We base reality. on what we experience and what everybody. else experiences on a day-to-day basis, what we have evidence of. But if. something happened that was completely. unique like that where they said like.

this is the only way we can communicate. their equipment is too primitive. We'll. just take over this guy's mind and have. him say it. >> Like who was ever going to believe that? >> Guess that's the quote translated. >> Okay. The alien message that spoke. through Raphael Pacheco Perez to the air. traffic controller. It says he speaks. because he is ordered to. That is it is. his voice he speaks but not of his own. free will. We use it as a microphone. No. matter who we are or where we come from, it is enough for you to know that we are. beings of this universe where you.

belong. Our planet is many light years. away, but we are physically equal. I. repeat that all races in the universe. are physically equal. You are not alone. in the universe and there are other. races that you that are far away from. you and we are watching you. But he said. more than that. >> No, for sure. >> What is the like the full extent of his. quote? because he said something about. you're the only race that still engages. in warfare.

>> I want to believe it. I want to believe. it's so bad. I I. >> No, I I don't I definitely think there's. other life forms out there. >> I do. I want to know what really. happened here. I really wish I knew. I. mean, I really wish. >> this guy did fall asleep while he was. flying a plane. So, can we really trust. him? >> Right. And he did wake up over the. ocean. But if he did wake up over the. ocean, it doesn't make sense that he got. over the ocean. If that's true, right? Explain that. Like, how did he get. there? >> Yeah. >> What' you do? Did you take over the. plane, move it with your spaceship? >> Why'd you put him over the ocean? So if. he crashed, it wouldn't kill anybody,

>> right? >> Why'd you do that? Like what is. >> what is all this? >> And what's the thing with the gas being. gone, >> right? Cuz I guess they like picked it. up and took it. >> Huh? >> I don't know. Uh, we are watching you. What else does it say? Definite. surprise. issued a certificate stating. he was in perfect health and had not. consumed any drugs. [Music]. It ruined his career and he never. piloted a plane again. Wow.

>> Was his first solo flight too. >> Whoa. >> Imagine your first solo flight. You're. like, I am going to pull a [ __ ] gag. on these [ __ ] I got an idea. I. got some extra. >> That was 19 That was 1976. >> Yeah. >> Wow. No, I definitely I don't know if I. believe that account, but I do believe. that there's. >> other life forms out there. >> My problem is I want to believe that. account. That's always the problem with. all these things. I want to believe I.

want to believe so bad that I I I don't. think about them rationally sometimes. >> Yeah. I mean, these stories are all It's. like whether you trust the source or. not. But I you know, >> the universe is the universe is too big. for us to be the only ones here. >> Oh, for sure. And I don't care that Mars. doesn't have any water. Maybe they don't. need water. >> Well, you know, they think Mars used to. have a full atmosphere. And do you know. that there's structures on Mars that. they've observed even recently that look. like perfect squares that are huge?

>> There's this one that I showed to Elon. I go, "What is that? Tell me what what. do you think that is?" Well, we should. probably go there and look around. >> Like, yeah, we should probably go there. and look around. >> He's the guy to do But what is like he. didn't didn't want to say what he. thought it was. But I'm looking at him. like do you think this could have been. at one point in time a structure. >> cuz it has perfect right angles and it's. a square and it's huge, >> right? >> They said it's at least hundreds of. meters across but it might be miles. across. >> They just it's rough estimates but they. know it's large. Have you seen it? >> Jam will show it to you. But it's a like.

a literal square. There's a bunch of. [ __ ] that's weird there. That's like the. face on Mars. But that I'm not totally. convinced about that. But that one's. nuts. >> Like that's kind of crazy. Didn't that. look kind of crazy? >> It's on the right. >> Yeah, >> that's kind of crazy. >> Yeah, >> that looks like a [ __ ] square. >> Oh yeah, that looks like a foundation. >> I mean, tell me what the [ __ ] that is. What is that? Right. >> That does not look normal. Those angles. don't look normal at all. that lower.

leftand corner like what is that? And. then the fact that it's roughly a. square. I mean I don't know if it's a. square or a rectangle. It seems like. it's a little taller than it is wide. >> But whatever it is, it looks like a. [ __ ] structure, man. >> It's weird. >> Well, just because we can't exist there. doesn't mean other life forms can't. exist there. >> or other life forms used to exist there. Like imagine if there was like if. there's life on Earth right now today. and if Mars at one point in time had a.

sustainable atmosphere like millions and. millions of years ago. What if there was. life on Mars? >> What if we are the offspring of the life. on Mars? What if those [ __ ] guys just. realize like, hey, this this place is. falling apart. Let's shoot over to Earth. >> and reestablish. >> Yeah. >> I mean, that might be why we're so. different than every other primate. that's here. >> I never thought about it like that. That. might be true. I just think it's so vast. and we know so little about everything. It's possible. That's just I kind of. like broaden it that way where it's like.

it's all possible. The universe is. infinite and we know very little about. it. >> Yeah, it's totally possible. It's just. not likely. I mean, it seems cuz you. haven't seen anything. Like it's not. likely. >> But we're trying to use our logical. brains to figure out. It's like could. this be possible? It's like it's. >> there's so much we don't know and we. have such a limited scope with our human. minds to even comprehend stuff. So, it's. like, you know, >> I know. >> I'm big on the uh near-death. experiences. Yeah. >> I watch all of those. >> What do you think that's all about? >> Um cuz it really puts it on the table. I.

was raised Catholic. >> I'm Catholic now, but it's like it's the. everybody has like a similar experience. where they go through a tunnel. >> and they come out and then there's a. life review where it's like your whole. life is. >> played out before you, >> right? And you know, it doesn't matter. if you're religious or that seems not to. matter at all. What what seems to matter. is like the little kindnesses that you. do to people. >> like like smiling at someone who's or or.

giving somebody some kind words who had. a bad day. It's like it speaks to the. thing that we're all connected. >> Yeah. >> We're all connected in um on this higher. level. >> I definitely think that's true. >> Yeah. >> I think reality is probably a lot. weirder than we think it is. And. whatever happens to you after you're. dead, it's very weird that people have. similar stories. Very, very weird. >> From different countries also. >> Mhm. Yeah. From all over the world. And. also long before there was any social. media or any like public depictions of.

these things. >> People have always had very similar. stories of these things happening to. them, >> which is makes you wonder like what what. is death, you know, and what is what is. life? What is consciousness? Does it. transcend? Does it go somewhere else? And it always has. Is is it a constant. cycle? >> Yeah. >> Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. >> Yeah. >> So, it's like it's got to go somewhere. Your soul, I guess, for a lack of a. better term, has to go somewhere. >> Yeah. And if you were looking at if you.

were an alien being looking at the. direction that the human race is going, I would imagine you would be worried. I. would imagine you would see all the. chaos and guys falling in love with AI. and people beating people up at jazz. concerts. like this is not good. >> But we don't know where we are in the. timeline, right? >> Either to total, you know, we think I. was like this is going to change things. and we're headed towards total. destruction. It's like but we don't know. where we are in that continuum. It's. like it could do an uptick again and we. could rebound and you know what I mean?

Like. >> we just don't know. >> If we had the right intentions, right? Like if we had the intention of doing. things designed to improve the human. race versus doing things designed to. only make money, you know, like if we. collectively as a group abandon the idea. of just doing things only for profit and. instead embrace the idea of helping the. human race, >> complete turnaround. We change. everything. >> Change the whole world. >> Yeah. It has to happen on a micro level. though where it's like, you know, it's.

the. it's the religion. It's the religious uh. thing of love your neighbor. >> Yeah. >> It's got to start on a very micro level. >> That's probably why that stuff exists. >> Probably why that exists in so many. cultures is because they kind of knew. that this is the general direction the. human race has to go if we're going to. survive. >> Well, you talking about religion. >> Yeah. And if you had like a guidance. from somewhere else, from a higher. power, well, it would probably tell you. exactly what Jesus told you, right? >> It would that's probably the message. >> Yeah. >> The message of Jesus, whether you.

believe it or not, is beautiful. You. know, it's like love your neighbor. >> It's the only way to get through what. we're in now. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> It's a good way to end this podcast, Mike. Um, when are you back? >> Peace be with you. >> Peace be with you. And also with you. That's how you say it, right? >> Yes. And also with you. >> When are you back? >> Um, back here. >> Yeah. When are you back in the club? >> Um, I don't know. I'm going to reach out. to Adam. >> Okay. >> But, uh, thank you so much. You were. awesome, man. >> Thank you, man. I really appreciate the. work and appreciate you having me on. here. This is a huge deal for me. So,

>> you have a special out, right? >> Yeah. It's called Low-Income White. >> There it is. That's you. >> And, uh, Nate Bargatsi, my friend. Shout. out to Nate. Insanely successful and, uh, talented. >> He's giving us an awesome guy, giving me. and a lot of other people under the Nate. Land banner opportunities. So, shout out. to Nate. Shout out to Nate. He made. this. I love that. >> And, uh, he's putting other comics on. under this brand. Thank you. That's a. cool one. >> That's pretty clutch. I like the diamond. stitching. >> Yeah. A lot of people online said he's. wearing lipstick, but I wasn't.

>> What? Wait a minute. Let me see. >> All the comments say lipstick. >> Oh, they're just [ __ ] with you. You. don't look like you're wearing lipstick, >> guy. But I shot at the Zanies lab. Shout. out to Zanies in Nashville and uh Nate. Bargatsi and the Natelland brand. Thank. you for having me on. >> Beautiful. All right, brother. >> I appreciate it. >> Good to see you, my friend. Always. All. right. Bye, everybody. [Applause]. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music].