Joe Rogan Experience #2342 - Jim Norton

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe. Rogan Experience. Train by day. Joe. Rogan podcast by night. All day. How do I [ __ ] put this on? What are. you going to do with it? Yeah, I should. have thrown it out, but I'm just I feel. like if somebody put effort into it and. gave it to me, just keep it. Yeah, I. know. Well, that's how I wind up with. this [ __ ] snake on the desk. This is. from.

this during the entire podcast, Harlon. Williams had this in his pants and he. was saying that he had a he got a worm. and he he named his worm Dimmitri and at. the end of the podcast he pulls it out. and then he got such a [ __ ] kick out. of the fact that it was still on the. desk when I interviewed Trump. I hope you explain where it came from. I. didn't say president hold that. I think. I think it's funny because when you said. that I was like, who gave that to you? Is that a seven-year-old? And Mr. Har. Williams. All right, it works out. perfect. That feels correct. He is so.

unique. He is. And uh I forgot he was in. Something about Mary. Oh, yeah. Which is. literally one of the funniest movies. ever made. Ever. And I watched him. again. I'm like, god damn, I wish I was. in that. I wish I had one line in that. movie. Right. Right. Right. That was one. Well, the Farley brothers, they're the. best. They they have some bangers, man. You know, Kingpin. Yeah. Bill Murray. God. I'm going to take these off. You. don't like them? No. No. They're fine. I. just I I'm so used to I hate my own. voice and hearing it come back. It's. like I'm doing radio for 20 years and I.

still don't like to listen to my own. [ __ ] voice. Well, you used to do one. He used to do the ear thing. But I saw. Rich Voss like too many times I've seen. clips of Voss and he just does that and. I'm like, do I look like that? Have I. looked like that for two decades? I'm. like [ __ ] Rich. Put it on or take it. off. I like one ear. He just likes one. ear open. He likes one ear. I I firmly. believe that's some kind of like a a a. childhood like uh defense thing. Like. there was something fishy that happened. in childhood where you want to just kind. of somehow stay present. Always be.

aware. Somebody fumbled. Yeah. Somebody fumbled. around and I just got to keep my ears. I. don't know. That's a thing though. A lot. of people like one ear on. It's not. uncommon. You feel when you have both. ears covered. I just feel like I'm lost. and I'm not in the room. And it's it's I. guess I've gotten a little bit better. with it, but just now I'm like, "Wow, I. really uh I can't hear." I always feel. like I'm just fully locked in, you know? I don't hear anything else. I don't hear. anyones. Yeah, I like the headphones on.

I like to be locked in. Yeah, I do. But. I just feel like it feels like I'm. underwater sometimes. I don't I went in. for an MRI. I just go for them like once. a year and just for the [ __ ] of it. I I. want to Yeah, I'm getting older and I'm. like, you know, I want to [ __ ] make. sure I'm good. like make sure there's no. lumps or anything. And uh they give you. those shitty headphones and I'm so. claustrophobic. I'm I'm laying there and. I'm terrified and the noise. Being married prepares you for that.

You get good at blocking out. Oh my god. You feel claustrophobic. There's a loud. noise. You want to kill yourself. Yeah. My wife will be in full conversation. with me. I have no idea what she said. I. just fully blocked it out. Yeah. How. many things have I agreed to? Exactly. Because I want her to shut up. I told. you about it the other day. I'm like, you did? I don't want to argue. I'm. like, I forgot. Yeah. I'm sorry. I just. tell you, but it's a I asked the guy, he. goes, "Do you want music?" And I'm like, "Yeah, I'll have a" I'm like, "Play. rock. I just rock." And he was [ __ ].

like uh he didn't speak English that. well, so he started playing the Rocky. theme song over and over. I I actually. bailed out and got out of the machine. I. couldn't You couldn't hear the song. anymore? No, I just was too freaked out. I'm like, "This guy's not hearing me. I'm squeezing that [ __ ] ball they. give you. It's awful." So, he had to. take me out. Um, and I'm like, "I'll go. back in." He goes, "No, we'll have to. start over." Cuz once apparently in an. MRI, like you have to be in the same. position. Yeah. So, I just I said, "Fuck. it." They did my whole body and they.

just they couldn't finish with the. brain. I was just like, "I'm done. I'm. out." Your brain's fine. You don't want. to look in there anyway. I hope I don't. really want to see. Who knows what's. going on in there? No. No. No. Just. little wires across the wrong way. Imagine. if you could look into your brain and. see your memories like whoa eventually. I mean, Black Mirror did an episode of. that where you like with I love how they. keep the technology simple where you're. just kind of scrolling through something. and they could like see all the the. memories and you'll eventually be able. to to do that. I mean, yeah, eventually.

we'll have a hard drive in our head. I. would do it too. I like I would. absolutely link up uh we I think we. talked this last Ray Kurszswwell who. talks about like uh singularity. Uh-huh. I still think his time frame is wishful. thinking. He thinks by like 45, right? He'll be in his like 90s. So, I think. he's just trying to hope it happens. He. might be right. That makes sense. 20. years from now. Yeah, I think that's. correct. I hope so. I I think. everything's moving in exponential pace. And I think, you know, if you just look.

at what's happening with AI, AI 10 years. ago was non-existent. You never heard. anything about it. And now everybody. uses it on their phone all the time. I. use it. Um my wife's obsessed with it, which is irritating because she like. literally will just talk to it. And so. I'm like, "All right, let me try it and. see." But it's great if like you get an. error message on your computer, like. what does [ __ ] Mac uh error 101 mean? And then you add it and it actually. tells you in a really comprehensive way. what that error message mean. It's. better than googling something. Oh yeah.

So I'm using it for that. But it's great. for a lot of things. Kids are using it. though unfortunately for like term. papers and [ __ ] and they're getting. busted because AI knows when it's AI so. they just run the paper into AI and AI. goes oh yeah AI made Oh yeah that's. that's my work that I did that yeah but. I mean it's good for uh for looking. things up right now I'm just using it as. a better Google but when I attach it to. my brain no uh because I was in it the. other day and they said we detected. suspicious activity so they wanted me to. log in maybe because I had a VPN or.

something because in Texas you can't. jerk off without a [ __ ] VPN. They. want your license to watch porn. Isn't. that crazy? That sucks. It's We're We're. protecting children. Too [ __ ] late. First of all, as if kids don't know. about VPNs. They all do. And it's also. one of those things where I get you. don't want your kids to watch porn. That's fine. And it's a lot harder. It. was harder when I was a child to get you. to find like magazines in the woods. Yeah. Yeah. Um but I remember the smell. of those old shitty magazines and you. find them and [ __ ] It was the best.

But now, if I had it on my phone or I. had the availability, I mean, my sex. addiction would have been even worse. So, I guess what I get why they want to. protect kids. Oh, it's got to be [ __ ]. kids up. It's not just that, but the. violence that they see. You see so much. violence. I see way more violence now. than I've ever seen in my whole life. Way more murders and car accidents and. animal attacks. And I see Tom Seagur and. I have this horrible text thread. We. text each other the worst [ __ ] we find. every day. We're trying to freak each. other out. And we've been doing it for. years. And so it's just my algorithm is.

[ __ ] Yeah, it's just [ __ ] Do you. There's There's certain sites and I. never promote the site just because it's. like it's just too gruesome. But there's. one site I go to where you can. everything they beheadings and I would. look at this stuff before bed and I. don't know why I I wouldn't enjoy seeing. it, but I would look at it and it just. gives you some kind of a weird horrible. feeling. But there's certain things I. can't watch at this point. Like I can't. watch people burning anymore. That's a. rough. Yeah. Yeah. At one point, oh,

burning for all the rape. I just I can't. watch him anymore. You know, it's old. hat. That's such a crazy thing to say. I. can't watch people burning anymore. I'm. just I'm all burnt out. It bothered me. It was It got to a point where I could I. can't see beheadings anymore. Like there. was a point where I could watch them and. just almost watch Detached, but now I. just It's too You remember the. journalist? It was like Daniel Pearl. Yes. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. He. was like the f but the camera band. panicked and kind of came off him a. little bit and and so they didn't uh it. was kind of they showed it but that was.

the first one. Yeah. And then that guy. there called Jihad John who was like cuz. he was British. They eventually caught. him. Um I forget the other people he did. but it was like certain contractors and. stuff that they would they would put in. those orange jumpsuits to mimic. Guantanamo and they would just gruesome. [ __ ] man. Really gruesome [ __ ] Gruesome. [ __ ] And it does [ __ ] you up. 100%. I. don't know what it does. Uh, but it. [ __ ] you up. Like I don't know how it. messes me up, but it it definitely is. not healthy. Well, it makes you filled. with anxiety and just knowing that that.

exists and then seeing it are two very. different things. Yeah. Knowing it. exists and seeing it. And then I'm. always like, well, I like watching I can. still watch car accidents because it's. tangible. Like a car accident is a. tangible thing. Like if you if you're. not careful and you drive like an. [ __ ] this is what happens to you. Or. if someone's driving like an [ __ ] and. you're not paying attention, you got to. be aware of everybody, right? So I try. not to text and drive anymore. I. remember one time I was doing a gig and.

I was in full sex addict mode and. [ __ ] Sam Roberts uh he was still an. intern uh at that point came with me cuz. Kenny was busy. So Sam came to help me. sell merchandise. And I remember he was. uh I think I did I let him I know I. drove but he was in the pastor seat and. I was just dirty talk texting the whole. way home because I couldn't text and. drive because he was in the car and I. was like I can't get [ __ ] I can't be. texting some woman uh and kill the. intern. That would just be a lawsuit. waiting to happen. So I It's like the. texting and driving thing I've kind of. backed off of. Yeah. Well that's what.

Apple CarPlay is for, you know. No, you. don't do that. [ __ ] dude. the idea of I. may I did that one time. I connected my. phone to a BMW X6. My girlfriend at the. time, my ex-girlfriend came with me to. the dealership and the guy is telling. me, "Oh, you should connect your phone.". And I do and my [ __ ] phone my uh my. phone book, my contact list comes up, right? And one of the girls, you know, I. put where how I knew her and it was like.

a domination fantasy. So that came up. her name and Domination Fantasy came up. on that little window in the X6 and I'm. like I'll never connect anything to my. car again. There's just too much going. on. Just change the name. I mean I mean. how much time do I have to go back and. change all the names? Change the name to. like personal trainer. But that's another code word. It doesn't. have to be. I got busted one time. talking dirty. I was texting dirty and. the girl the the escort's name came up. on my phone. Um, and it was like one of.

those names that cannot be like a. regular person. So I ran my and my. girlfriend was [ __ ] screaming at me. in the car. She's like, "Who the [ __ ] is. that?" And I'm like, "It's [ __ ]. Anthony." I'm like, "I have a code word. for Anthony in case I ever lose my. phone." So I had to run up into the. bathroom and just like my fingers were. shaking and change it to Anthony. And. then I came in 15 minutes later. I'm. like, "See, it's Anthony." But it was by. then it was like, "You blew it, Jim. You. got caught." So I don't connect. anything. Even though I don't I'm not, you know, [ __ ] anybody else. I still. don't I don't trust it. I don't I don't.

connect anything to my car. Well, your. phone is listening anyway. Mine is for. sure. Mine I I've come to grips with the. fact that everything that I text is. getting read probably 100%. No questions. through the ads, including like stuff. that's on Signal. You know, Tucker told. me that he said that the s they found. his uh the government knew that he was. going to meet Putin because they read. his signal. And he's like, I didn't even. know that that was possible. Yeah. Um, is that the one that they got they got. caught using in the defense chat? The.

signal. But that was because there was. another guy in the signal chat that I. think someone let in the signal chat on. purpose. Was it on purpose or do you. think it was one of those things where. you [ __ ] up and you just like, you know. how you you'll send something and and a. and a predictive text like name comes up. and you just hit like if I'm going to. text you and I accidentally J and all of. a sudden Joe De Roa comes up. Yeah. And. I I just send him. I've done that. before, but this was a giant group of. people that are in the defense. department. How do you include a. reporter in that? That's a terrible.

mistake. That doesn't make any sense. My. ex- publicist was badmouthing me to. somebody and she actually sent it to me. by mistake. I was like, what did she say. about it? vert. It was one of those. things where we weren't working together. anymore and I was doing uh Neil. Brennan's podcast and uh like you know. blocks where you you you talk about all. these things that blocked and I and she. sent something about like oh well. Norton's on three blocks already no. shock. It was just it was some comment. that was not complimentary and uh and. then it was like oh sorry I meant that. for him and I just kind of left it.

there. I'm like I got it. I I knew you. didn't like me. That's why I left you. Your own publicist hate your guts. [ __ ] publicist can be a such a. problem. They're so incompatible with. people that are wild. Yes. Because all. they want to do is they have to paint it. in a way that's palatable to everybody. Like I understand that it's a hard job. and you have some [ __ ] [ __ ] who's. out trying to get laid like a guy like. you or someone who says wild things, you. know? It's like that's part of the fun. of being you. Yes. But it also comes.

back and it it's it's Here's where it's. negative. I do on YouTube. I have the. podcast and I'm trying to do podcast. ads. I've never, you know, I never. bought ads on YouTube before, but I'm. like, it doesn't buy you views. It just. puts it like where people will see it. and if they like it, they click on it. Every one of my ads gets shot down. They. they accused me of election advertising. in the United States. I I put up an ad. and they said, "This violates election. advertising in the" And I didn't even. know how to respond to that. What was. the ad? It It might have been a I had. George Santos on, but it was it was just.

a funny podcast. That guy is hilarious, dude. He was [ __ ] He told me how bad. uh uh Jerry Nadler smelled. cuz I asked him who had the worst breath. in Congress and he wouldn't answer but. he told me the worst body odor was Jerry. Nadler and it was just funny. This is. funny. He's a character. He is. It's. just amazing that he was a congressman. I know. I I have a real affection. You. know how it is when you meet somebody. it's like they're they're always more. human when you meet them and it's harder. to not like somebody. Like I don't agree. with Lauren Bobart but I met her and she. couldn't have been nicer and I'm like I. can't dislike her. She was nice to me.

you know, right? So, whenever you meet. someone and I had him over and he was. great, he was funny. A sense of humor. about himself and he was shit-talking. and catty and I was like, "Fuck, I love. this guy." But they accused me of. election advertising. So, now so many. times I've tried to put ads after and. they continually say it's either. shocking content or election. advertising. Oh, they're just targeting. you. They're just targeting me. And it's. like, how are you supposed to advertise. comedy? Yeah. With with some profanity. in it if it's shocking content. How was. that election? I mean, he's not even. running for anything. And it wasn't it.

wasn't a political uh rally podcast at. all. It was just us talking about what. happened and we chatted politics, but I. don't I don't push political views on. people. They've got you labeled. right-wing which is kind of funny, isn't. it? It it really is. It is so funny. And. the people don't know what to like the. conservatives. It's so funny. People. come see me from Gutfeld because I do. Gutfeld a lot and and his people will. come see me and it's just fun when I. talk about my wife to watch the joy. drain out of their faces. It's a trans. woman. Oh, we had no idea. That's not. the type of Tucker we like, buddy.

They get very uh It's a very weird place. to be. Yeah. People who like my humor. don't necessarily like my personal life, and people who like my personal life. don't necessarily like my humor. It's a. weird I guess if if nobody feels like. you're. 100% in in with them, they they don't. know what to make of you. Well, you were. saying that about Oliver Anthony and. that I wasn't aware of that he was. getting in trouble apparently right. after Richmond North of Richmond came. out that people were saying he wasn't.

really conservative. Yeah. They they. were giving him [ __ ] about saying like, "Oh, he's not who we thought he was.". Meanwhile, he writes this great song and. people love it and and they they look at. his art and they love his art, but. because he feels a little bit. differently, a lot of people turned on. him and it was like, "What? What are. you?" I wasn't even aware of that at. all. Yeah. I didn't know what I do. Do. you know what the subject was? I don't. remember if they if he had said. something after or if they went back and. found out things he had said prior that. they felt like his politics didn't line.

up. It's almost like when they got mad. about uh [ __ ] Dylan Mulvaney. Like. needing to connect to the belief system. of somebody who drinks the same beverage. is just such [ __ ] psychotic thinking. Then again, I've drank piss, so I don't. expect a whole lot of people to line up. politically. and rally behind me with [ __ ] yellow. flags. But I don't I just don't care. I. don't give a [ __ ] I don't care who who. believes it or like I don't care like. what the I mean, I'm I'm a [ __ ].

Sabbath fan. I don't give a [ __ ] who. those guys vote for. It's It's so so. stupid, inconsequential to me. Well, it's just a a symptom of this bizarrely. disconnected society where everybody's. so separated. It is. And you gota it's. got to be driving you crazy or or maybe. you detach from it because you see. things I mean I know you so I'll see. them say like he's this right way and. I'm like you guys don't really know Joe. It's it's like it's they don't to see. yourself painted in such a way has got. to be at one point frustrating and then. you have to just let it go right and. just Yeah. You got to let it go. But.

when when I I mean the most frustrating. thing was seeing it on CNN. I was like, "Okay, you so this thing that I thought. was the news forever now I know you're. not accurate at all because you're. you're attacking me and you're painting. me in this very bizarre light because. it's convenient for you." There's a. weird thing and maybe this is again. because I'm in my 50s and I remember. like thinking the news was real and. accurate because you remember Walter. Kronhite and all that [ __ ] and it's I. it's this constant sense of.

disappointment like [ __ ] like they're. really not what I like I'm still an. idiot who believes in like the adults. and they're going to do the right thing. Yeah. And it just constantly is a. confirmation that Yeah. They are they're. liars. They're [ __ ] biased liars. Yeah. And they're paid to lie. They're. just propagandists. But that's what the. news, the mainstream news is. I mean, there's real news now. Sure, you can get. the real news from Glenn Greenwald. You. can get the real news from Matt Taibbe. There's a few people out there that'll. give you unbiased news. But it's so. funny like even them, you know, when.

they will highlight a very particular. thing that maybe Trump did or someone. did on the right and everybody attacks. them. It's like, do do you want them to. lie? Yeah. Just because you you want. your team to be infallible? Like what do. you what do you want? And Glenn. Greenwald, I I had never heard of him. I. I don't really follow a lot of like what. people are saying. I don't watch. debates, but I obviously heard about him. when that v video came out and I saw uh. and I loved how he handled that. Yeah, he handled it great. Privacy invasions. are so [ __ ] disgusting. They're. disgusting when they're done to anybody.

I don't care how much you hate the guy's. guts, but I was I was like, I don't even. know who this guy is, but I like how he. addressed that. Yeah, it's my private. life and tough [ __ ] You I kind of I. like that he handled that. I thought. very very he took it head on and well. John Ronson talked about that in his. book you've been publicly shamed you. know like if you're not ashamed then it. doesn't work and that's the reality of. it and Glenn handled it perfectly. He's. not ashamed. Yeah. And or well you can't. let them see you're ashamed cuz I'm you. know I wake up just dipped in it.

I [ __ ] it's the first thing I think. of. Good morning shame. But that's. you're open about it though. I mean. that's the thing. It's like they can't. really attack you for something that. you're attacking yourself for. Yes. And. if you tell them like I did something. like I I it's so it's so I watched I my. special premiered and I went into. YouTube and I watched it with people as. they were watching and just commenting. and talking and this horrible feeling of. shame. Even when people are being nice, I can't get away from how embarrassed I.

am. Like it's almost like if people see. you doing something, you're like, "Oh, Jimmy's trying. Look at little Jimmy. trying and I was typing back and. everything, but it was it's so anti what. feels good for me to do. Even when. people are being nice, I find it. horrifying and humiliating. I don't know. where that comes from, but I kind of. wish I didn't have it. This episode is. brought to you by Visible. Now, you. know, I tend to go down a lot of rabbit. holes. I want to know everything about. everything. And if you're like that, you.

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want to see again, you know, like if I'm. watching Shane and he's doing his bit on. the Navy Seals, I want to I want to see. it again or I want I just want to see. it, you know? I want to I want to just. I've never seen it develop. I want to. see the thing. But when you're doing it, you're aware of everything. You're aware. of all the edits you've made. You're. aware of all the different ways you've. done it. your way of when you're trying. to sell it a little too much and you're. not in the moment, you know? Like. there's all the grossness that you see.

that other people aren't going to see, but you're like, "Ew, it's [ __ ] I. hate watching myself, dude. It was so. hard. It was so hard not to just attack. myself in the chat." Like, all I wanted. to do was watch it and go, "This [ __ ]. blue sucks." But I'm nice nice blinking. 56y old. But I didn't do it. I'm like, don't be a. [ __ ] I think it was Jay Okerson was. doing something and he did his special. and he shot it at Skankfest one year and. I think Lewis took him out and they were. looking at the stage before and it was.

one of those guys like you know Jay is. just like a he's a [ __ ] [ __ ] it. I. think Lewis goes you know sometimes I. know we're like that but you just got to. enjoy it. Like once and I thought of. that. I'm like sometimes just enjoy. things are going okay. Yeah, you're. happy with what you did. I love the. special. I love the material. Don't put. yourself in a position where you're like. you [ __ ] suck. Like it doesn't have. to be that just put it out there and. walk away from it. Leave it alone. Let. people decide what they decide. And if. you don't like it, you just work on the. next one and make sure that you don't.

make the same mistakes twice. Yeah, that's it. That's all you can do. But I. spent a lot of time like I I I wouldn't. I I don't think I've ever loved anything. as I put it out. This I like more, but. the older you get, the better you get. So, it's like a little easier now than. it was. Yeah. The first Tonight Show I. did uh was 2004 and I I was out in LA. and I there was my buddy Joey SA who. worked for Evil Angel and would film a. lot of the greatest porn. Joey was a. [ __ ] you'd recognize him if you saw. him. He was in old movies. So I went to. his house to watch my first Tonight Show. with with another guy this other guy.

Brandon Iron. Um and I went into the. basement while they watched up. I. couldn't watch it in front of other. people. Oh, that's hilarious. It was. just And it's not to be because I think. I'm an artist. It's just humiliating. It's [ __ ] It's embarrassing to cuz I. feel like I'm like, "Are you going to. laugh?" Like I just I don't want people. to feel pressured to laugh, right? Because I'm around um It's weird. It's. weird watching yourself. Some guys can. do it though. Yeah, they're psychos. They are [ __ ] psychopaths. They're. probably not healthy. Oh my god, dude.

The [ __ ] Do you know what mental. illness you need to sit someone down. next to you when your special's playing? How about people that want you to watch. their thing and they want to sit there. with you like, "Hey, watch this." and. you're like, I don't I don't want I. don't want to watch this. It's it's it's. it puts you in a weird if I if I do an. acting role, I don't love acting. Um. which is great because nobody loves when. I do it. It works out nicely. But if I. do something I like, I have to see it. first and I have to watch it and go, "Okay, I'm not embarrassed by this. I. can go and watch it in in a premiere.". Like, you know what I mean? Like I I but. I have to see it first to know if I'm.

going to feel humiliated. Uh The. Irishman I didn't see first. Obviously, he's going to say he's not going to send. me a [ __ ] cut. And I didn't know I. made it until like literally the the. night before. But that was different. because I'm like I don't care how. whatever. It was just it was a standup. performance. So Right. Right. Right. A. little bit easier than Oh yeah. acting. It's humiliating. Yeah. It's gross. I. don't like any of it. I went I've been. in a couple movies. I've refused to go. to the red carpet. I sneak in through. the back. I'm like they were like I want. you to walk the red carpet. I'm like. nope. Is it because you don't like Cuz.

everyone would talk to you. I'm afraid. no one's going to talk to me on the red. carpet. Like it's it's do you know how. embarrassing it is when you you hear. that person who walks you through in the. front and like you're you're standing. there ready for your moment and you hear. her going Jim Norton and then one you'll. hear a second and then she goes Jim. Norton comedian and it's like oh [ __ ]. they have no idea who I am. It's just. humiliating. So I don't like doing it. man. I just don't like the attention. I. don't like standing there while they. take pictures just standing there just. looking around. Look at me Joe. Look at.

me. Look at me. Look at me. Over here. Over here. Some people love it. Actresses love it. They pose. They like. give you their good side. Yeah. Yeah. Give you a little They practice in the. mirror. But I almost understand I have. more tolerance for actors who love it. because even though they're as big of, you know, attention idiots as we are, they don't get the constant feedback. Like for them, it's their night of. feedback. Right. Right. Whereas with us, we're like I mean every I've been on a.

run for like four nights. Before I came. here actually at the seller, I had four. like [ __ ] nights in a row just all the. material I'm doing now is new. So it's. like I'm trying this and you know it. just feels like you're Frankensteining. it. It's not there yet. Uh but I know. I'm going to have another night and. another night and and that comes and. goes quickly. But actors, they have like. one night to stand there and smile and. then they just get attacked in the. [ __ ] in the comments or in the. reviews. So, I'm a little more tolerant. of them than comedians who because. comedians who love that it's like, "How. much [ __ ] attention do you need, dude?" Yeah. Yeah. You constantly get.

feedback. Yeah. You should be shying. away from feedback. Too much feedback is. bad for you. I really believe that. 100%. And I stopped I I stopped reading. Twitter comments. Occasionally, I'll do. it now. And it wasn't just to say I. wasn't reading them. It was because even. positive feedback I caught. I'm like, "You needy [ __ ] How much how much, you. know, uh how many taps on the shoulder. do you need? How many like good job Jim. or you suck? Like how much interaction. from people do you need? It's not. normal. It's not healthy. I stopped.

reading almost everything, even stuff. that's not me. And I stopped a couple. weeks ago. I just stopped going on. social media. I will occasionally if. someone sends me something funny, I'll. watch it, but then I get off my phone. right away. Like I just And I think on. my new phone number that I'm going to. get, I'm not going to have any social. media. I'm just going to keep my old. phone number and only use that for. social media. I just don't think it's. good for you. It's not. And although. there's times like my algorith I'm. obsessed with I think we talked about. just Japanese hornets and a lot of MMA. Like my algorithm is healthier now than.

it would be. Um there's still a few. things that will pop up um that you know. show what I've been looking at. Like if. my wife is an she'll see what I'm. looking at. I'm like no, you know, you. know how it is. Yeah. You go down a. rabbit hole. You probably shouldn't go. down. But it's not as unhealthy as it. would have been at one point. Like a lot. of it is just MMA stuff and and and. animals and nice [ __ ] Yeah, I get a lot. of that. A lot of is people getting. knocked out. You like the knocked out? I. like watching jiu-jitsu tips because. then I'll bring them in and ask ask the. guy to show me like like how do you is.

it possible to do this? And he'll kind. of show me and I'll just forget it. But. it's it's fun. Yeah, I've got a lot of. that, too. But it's just I just think. it's a giant waste of time. And it's. also your brain needs time to just think. and you need time to just be in your own. head and think about your own thoughts. and trying to formulate them properly. really like get an like why do I think. this way? Why what is what is it about. this that is that I've decided is. correct right and roll it around and. when you're constantly looking at other. people's thoughts I just don't think it.

gives you much time for that. That's. exactly it. Why do I think what I think? Like Hitchens did a great speech. He was. in Toronto about free speech and one of. the things he was talking about is when. somebody says something that you don't. agree with. I think the example he gave. was Holocaust denial. He goes, "You have. to protect that person's speech because. if nothing else, it makes you examine, okay, well, how do I know what I know? How do I know other than someone told. me?" Like, you have to kind of examine. how you come to your own conclusions.

And I do that a lot. Like in the shower, I'll just kind of stand there. It's. really like we all have a weird. showering method. And I just kind of. stand there with my hands like this. It's bizarre. It's like womblike. And I. just stand there and I think or I go. through arguments or I go through. conversations or debates. Um and that's. the one time I really get to to think. during the day where I don't let. anything else interfere. But being off. social media is probably a lot. healthier. Just again it's other. people's thoughts. Who? I don't care. what people think. I don't know why I. read it. Well, I care what people think, but I don't care enough to have that.

intervene and invade my thoughts all day. long. I mean, I'm fascinated by people, but I like to talk to them for real. For. real, like this. Yeah. This is like, you. know, because I think that's also having. a podcast and having what I think is the. best way to communicate with people and. to be able to be so lucky to be able to. do it all the time. I think I get plenty. of other people's input, right? And you. get the the real opinions and you get to. you sense in a room with a person. And. again, it's it's it's harder to dislike.

or to or to caricature somebody when. you've met them and when you've actually. sat with them. It's like, nah, I know. this person. I kind of felt their. energy. And it's like, yeah, they're. just a regular person. It's easy when. you look at somebody to hate their guts. Um, and I've bashed a few people. It was. always so embarrassing. We would do. Jocktober. And uh, you know, OA never. went into other people's studios, but I. would and I'd be on the road and it was. the [ __ ] I was in Boston with Kenny. one time. He's like, "Uh, they're having. you in, but you jocktobered them." And I. was like, "Oh,

so I went in and uh you know, you you. you just go they're like, "Yeah, you. really uh" and I'm like, "Yeah, man. It. was just something we do." But you have. you face it and you realize, "Yeah, they're nice guys. It was just it's a. dumb radio show. I had fun." And I've. actually become friendly with a couple. of guys who we used to attack. But you. only get that through meeting somebody. and actually talking to them oneonone. The mo the worst is when you meet. someone and you have a conversation with. them and you're cool. You think, "Oh, we're good." And then they'll go and. talk [ __ ] about you somewhere else and. completely mischaracterize you. Have you.

had that? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've had that. Yeah, that's embarrassing. It's sad. It. feels bad. Yeah. Well, it's just like, okay, well, I'll never talk to you again. because I know that you do this now. It's crazy. Yeah. And but it's also it's. like, why are you doing that? Generally, it's when I had a conversation with them. and it didn't go well for them, right? Right? So they'll then they just harbor. that thing and then they just [ __ ]. stew it in their head and then they just. mischaracterize you and try to twist you. around because they're trying to win.

this argument they already lost. Yes. You know it's like you know when you get. in an argument you you didn't have. anything to say and then you're in the. shower like a I should have said this. I. should have said that. They're just. doing that and they're just going and. doing that on another podcast. Yes. Re. relitigating. what the jury has already come in. Yes. And it's human instinct to do. I also. think sometimes people do it and they. don't think you're going to see it. Like. especially when you're you, you know, you have such a high level of like. recognition that if somebody they're. probably he'll never see this and I can. just and then you see it and they're.

probably like I shouldn't have said. that. But I've read things that hurt my. feelings. I'm like why would you say. that? Like yeah I was nice to you. I. don't know. It's weird. It's like you. know humans are so strange. We're so. strange in our weird little quirks and. the way we communicate with each other. and what is truth? It's real. Who are. you? You know, who are you? You're. different every day. Yeah. You're. different depending on how your day. went. You know, your reaction to. something is I remember one time this. guy wasn't paying attention. Traffic was.

stopped and he rearended me and he. didn't have a license. He's from Mexico, but I had been doing yoga like every. day. And I was like, "You okay?" And. he's like, "Yeah, I'm okay." I'm like, "All right, man." And I go, "Why don't. you have a license?" He's like, "I can't. get a license." I I go, "Well, so why. are you driving?" He's like, "I got to. work." All right, I get it. I wasn't mad. at him, but it was cuz I was doing yoga. like every day. We were doing this hot. yoga challenge, Ari and Tom and Bert and. I. I remember that. We were doing it. like I was doing yoga like every day.

So, I was so calm. I was like, "Okay, well, take care of yourself. I'm going. to get out of here." Cuz his car was. [ __ ] My car was [ __ ] but it was it. was drivable. Yeah. It was a Porsche. Like, it was a really nice car. and he. had like this [ __ ] shitty Honda and. he but you know the way he broke like. when you break your your front end dives. down and so he kind of got under my car. and lifted my car up a little bit and. caved in my back bumper a little bit but. they just replaced the bar and the. engine wasn't [ __ ] and my exhaust was.

dented a little bit. His car was [ __ ]. He couldn't drive so he got to be there. when the cops came and you know he. couldn't drive away right and I was like. I don't know what to tell I'm going to. get out of here. Oh, you just left. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, "He doesn't have. any money. Like, I'm I'm going to pay. for this." Yes. And I'm like, "This is. going to hurt me. I have the money to. fix it. So, all right. Take care, man. Glad you're okay." Being Zen like that, like because it reminds me of I was. leaving the link the Holland Tunnel with. Karen Fihan. We were doing a gig in. Jersey. It was bumper to bumper and I. came, you know, there was like that. merge where you think you're never going.

to get out of it. And a guy stopped and. he goes, "You hit my car." And I'm like, "I know I didn't hit his car." But he. made us uh it was bumper to bumper. I'm. like, "Let's just talk on the other side. of the tunnel. Like, let's get out of. this fuck." Cuz I was going to be late. for the gig. And he goes, "No, we're. going to pull over and wait for the. police." So, I'm like, "Oh, this piece. of [ __ ] is trying to shake me down.". Yeah. So, we wound up uh one of those. awful traffic women was there. You know, the the people that just they work for. the city and they dress like cops, but. they're not cops, but if you assault one. of them, it's like a big deal. So, we.

pulled over and and I said, "Is it okay. if we just trade licenses?" And she. went, "Yeah, just trade licenses." which. I think kind of shamed him into like. letting us move on. Otherwise, he was. going to have me [ __ ] held up there. or or pay him on that. So, you didn't. hit his car at all. Karen said I didn't. It was a merge and if I did, it was a. one m hour bump, but there was no mark. on his car at all. I think the whole. thing was a scam cuz we traded licenses. and I never heard from the guy. You ever. seen that thing where people get in. front of people's cars and slam on the. brakes? It's I've seen it. Oh, and it I.

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There was one recently, I think it was. in New Jersey, where these people, they. tried it and it didn't work. Then they. threw it in reverse and backed up fast. and slammed into this guy's car, but. this or this lady's car, but she had a. dash cam the entire time and she's on. the phone. Oh my god, these people just. backed up into me. And then they got out. of the car and they're like, "What did. you do? What did you do?" And then they. saw the dash cam like, "Ah fuck." Yeah, I've seen that. I think that's what I'm. referring to where where they they. scurry back into the car and take off. Yep. Yep. When I saw like I'm so cynical.

like people in Philly, you got a lot of. people in Philly like if a bus hits. something, there's like locals that will. just run up and just lay next to the bus. like they were in the [ __ ] accident, which is I get it. You know what I mean? But they forget that there's cameras. everywhere and they can just see you. walking up. But this India Air India. plane crash, I was my first thought was. that this guy they said survived. I'm. like, "Oh, he's bullshitting. He didn't. he's faking it." No, he survived. But he. did survive it. Yeah. Cuz he said his. brother was on the plane or something. 11A. Seat 11A. And by the way, to all. the people who are going to now look for. 11A, stop. Yeah. Stop. If if anything.

else, that's the last seat you should. take. Usually it's the back where you're. best off. Yeah. I wonder if the plane. broke open and he just got There's a. woman who who was a I think she was a. teenager when it happened. was called. the woman who the girl who fell from the. sky and she had apparently they were. like 2 miles up and her the plane blew. up whatever and it came apart and she. fell 2 miles somehow survive the sole. survival barn right didn't she go. through the roof of a barn or something. no she fell into the uh what do they. call the uh the [ __ ] the the Brazil.

rainforest uh oh the Amazon Brazil she. fell into the Amazon was gone for 10. days apparently again unless I was. [ __ ] they said she found an old boat. with gas and she had to pour one of her. wounds to kill the maggots. Um, and then. she finally did get out and get rescued. And uh, look at this. 17-y old girl. miraculously survived falling 10,000 ft. from a plane then surviving 11 days. Isn't 10,000 ft? Isn't that 2 miles? No. What's a mile? Yeah, it's about two. miles. Two miles. Yeah. Jesus Christ.

You imagine falling two miles from a. plane survived 11 days alone in the. Peruvian Amazon rainforest. After the. plane, she was on She was struck by. lightning. Jesus, I didn't read that. part. The plane was struck by lightning. and disintegrated in the air, still. strapped to her seat, fell from the sky, and survived. Holy [ __ ] What did she. hit though? Did she hit like a mountain. and slide? Like, how do you The impact? I don't know how you survived that. impact. Oh my god. She had a broken. collar bone, a torn li knee ligament.

That's it. After the crash, she spent 11. days alone in the jungle before being. rescued. She found a lumberjack camp. Wow. Yeah, it's crazy. Wow. She became a respected scientist. specializing mimology and focusing on. bats. Wouldn't it be funny if she was. the lady who released CO. because her memor is no good anymore. after the plane crash. Yeah. Drink this. She She specialized on bats and she got. a job in Wuhan. She had no idea. She had. no idea. She's like, "Be free." Bit some.

guy selling fish on the corner and he. went [ __ ] somebody. But there was another one, too. There. was a a flight attendant and again who I. think was trapped the front of the plane. fell and I think that she was almost. from 30,000 ft and if I remember. correctly it hit a mountain and like it. was almost like she hit it on the right. angle and slid. it. Yeah. Highest fall without a. parachute in history. 33,000 ft plunge. after a plane explosion 72. She was the.

only survivor crashed into the mountains. of Czechoslovakia after a suspected bomb. detonated. Jeez. What about the lady who felt her. parachute didn't open and she landed on. a pile of ants? Fire ants and the fire. ants kept her alive. Right. Right. Shocked her body into Yeah. Somehow or. another the fire ants the the the shock. of the sting of fire ants kept her. alive. Why did it slow her heart down or. something or stop it from No. What? Imagine the odds of falling into a fire. ant pile. It's usually a bad thing to. land an a mount of fire ants at 80 miles.

an hour, but not if you're Joan Murphy. Oh, Joan Murray. 14,000 ft right into a. [ __ ] pile. 50% chance of surviving a fall of 48. feet. Yeah. Which is a four-story. building. Mortality rate rushes all the. way up to 90 when you f fall 84t a. distance of a sevenstory building. So if. you're falling from a whopping four. 14,500 ft, just over 2 and a half miles, safely bet you're almost definitely not. going to get out alive. One woman did.

So she fell. A backup parachute opened. at 700 ft. Quickly deflated. She. continued to plummet towards the ground. at 80 miles an hour. She survived. arrows. Um, she survived thanks to the fact that. she landed directly on a mound of fire. ants. Doctors believe the intense shock. of being stung over 200 times by the. ants, released a surge of adrenaline. that kept her heart beating. Whoa. By the way, does that prove to you. how little I know about the human body? My instinct said that, oh, your heart.

slows down. Like I thought like, oh. maybe it would slow your heart down when. they bit you and it does just the. opposite. I I thought like maybe maybe. it slows your beat down like being. frozen. I bet that's just a wild guess. as to why it kept her alive cuz if she. was putty, you know, there's no way it. would have kept her alive. Yeah. Maybe. it stopped her heart from stop. Maybe. they got to her right after, too. You. know, who knows? You watch that guy who. [ __ ] lets things bite him in the. woods. Uh coyote something. You know, we. go. He's a psychopath, but his stuff is. very entertaining. But I think he's the.

bullet ant. The bullet ant or the. Japanese hornet was was the the worst. The bullet ant's supposed to be the. worst. The bullet ant's supposed to be. like 24 hours of intense pain. Yeah. My. friend Steve got bit by one of those on. purpose or no? No. He was in uh the. Amazon. He got bit on his foot. And was. it as bad as he said? He said for hours. it was just impossible. The pain was. just impossible and then it's slowly. dissipated to like kind of manageable. Is that the one what they put in the. gloves? Did you see that one? the the.

the tribe where they do that and their. hands are like blackened by bites. Did. Steo do that? Did he? Yeah. Yeah, he did. that. Yeah, he put the gloves on. How. long did he last? Uh, well, once you get. bit, it's a 24-hour experience. Yeah, I'm very squeamish. Insects. It's. funny. I've never gotten over this. insect. I think I saw a kid uh there was. a brother and sister when I was a kid. We were all the same age. I think she. was a year older than me and him were. And they were such a such a bizarre. little friendship because they used to. pee their pants and I would ask them to.

sit on my face with their pants. It was. a really bizarre Yeah, I know. It was a. very a lovely childhood in good old. Edison. Good old Edison, New Jersey. But. I saw him get stung by yellow jackets. What is that? That's a That's the worst. thing. Executioner wasp. Oh, what coyote. Peterson said was worse than a bullet. ant. Oh my god. Watching a guy run with. bees on his arms and screaming. I think. that scarred me for the rest of my life. with insect. We used to break up bees. nest and I'll never forget the sight of. this kid running ah with just three.

yellow jackets on his arm and I just. that stuck with me for I guess 49 years. now 50 years. It bothers me. I just. can't they insects have a very weird. effect on people like to be sokeeved out. by something. It's like rats instead of. like small bunnies don't bother you but. rats do. Maybe it's in the DNA or. something where it's supposed to bother. you. I think so for sure. I think that's. what aidophobia and arachnophobia comes. from. You know, I I bet someone in your. DNA, someone down the line was either.

killed by a spider or like really badly. hurt by a spider and it's just in your. DNA to be absolutely terrified when you. see a spider. What's a what's a. fidophobia? Snakes. Oh, some people just. they have it so bad. Like they see. snakes and they just [ __ ] start panic. and they go they have a panic attack and. they just can't handle it. where other. people like I I'm scared of snakes for. sure, but but I can look at them, you. know, they don't freak me out. Can you. hold them? Yeah. Yeah, I can hold them, but I you know, obviously I don't want. to be around them. They're they're.

[ __ ] serpents. They're literally in. the Bible. Yeah. Yeah. The Bible does. frown on the snake and a bad rap in the. [ __ ] Bible. [ __ ] Satan. Satan. comes in the form of a certain a. serpent. Yeah. I I can hold one if I. know it's not going to I got again I. have a healthy fear like if it's like if. it's if if it's if I know it's a boa. constrictor. Put that guy in the granite. village who walks around with a giant. yellow one. Which kind of creeps me. because if it was to really attack. someone, I mean, I guess you'd have to. kill it. There's nothing you can do. Yeah, it's a large boa constrictor.

There's not much you can do once it's. around your neck. You need help, you. know? They're very strong. I mean, they. they crush deer and swallow them whole. They do. Yeah. I mean, you got to you. got to be a real special kind of [ __ ]. idiot to have one of those things as a. pet because you just have a monster as a. pet. And as long as you feed that. monster, but if you leave a baby in a. room with a python, you come back a half. an hour later, you're going to have a. fat python and no baby. Absolutely. And. a nice quiet night's sleep. They don't. give a [ __ ] They're just like that's.

what they're there for. Nature has. designed them to kill everything they. can. I can't Annie Letterman has a lot. of snakes. Like she has them as pets and. her her fiance has they have a a room. full of [ __ ] snakes and I don't get. it. I'm like they're not warm. Yeah, they don't have any recognition of you. Interesting, I guess. I guess. But I. have We have a puppy and I've never. owned a dog before. And it's like it's. nice to have I don't like taking care of. anything. I [ __ ] I don't have that. instinct in me. I just don't like it. But this dog kind of uh I get why people.

like having a dog. I get it. Oh, I love. dogs. If if it My wife only lets me have. one. I have one dog. But if it was up to. me, at one point in time I had five. dogs. You did? Yeah. Does he [ __ ] in the. house? No. Mine does a lot. I mean, he. does if he eats things that are bad, he. gets diarrhea. And he gets diarrhea at. least a couple times a year. Oh, he. does? Yeah. He's a dumbass. He's a. golden retriever. He's not that smart. Like, he ate a turtle recently and he. got horrible diarrhea. [ __ ] all over the. place. He got little pieces of shells.

stuck in his stomach. He had to go to. the hospital. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was It was a nightmare. And he also ate gravel at one point. He. ate 5 lbs of gravel cuz someone. accidentally uh dropped some chicken. food on the gravel and he just assumed. that the gravel was food so he ate all. the gravel. It is crazy how nothing. registers halfway through the gravel. pile. He's just a dumbass. Doesn't taste. like chicken. He's a dumbass. But I. [ __ ] love dogs, man. I I wish I I I. could have I can't go to a pound. I I. can't go if I bring them all home. I'll.

just like I'll take them all. If I had a. giant piece of land, I would probably. just have all every dog I could ever. get. We went we went to uh Northshore. Animal Rescue and uh actually Beth Stern. helped me. I don't know her well. I met. her through Whitney and I had met her. and but she's like is huge there and. like has great connections and helped us. get a very nice little uh uh what is it? A [ __ ] Yorkie. We we were so stupid. We thought it was a uh I thought it was. a cavapoo. I don't know what the [ __ ]. kind of dogoo. It's like a It's like one. of those things where it's like a bread.

dog. It's It's a cavalier and a poodle, I think. But it's hypoallergenic. I. can't have dog hair, right? Oh, look at. that. I mean, come on. A Is that not. phenomenal? Come on. Look at little bow. That used. to be a wolf. That's how [ __ ] creepy. people are. They turned a wolf into that. thing. That little adorable no shedding. thing. Look at that little face. A He's. very cute. But that's what we thought we. were getting. I didn't know cuz a Yorkie. looks a lot like that when it's young. I.

mean, it was like this big when we took. it home. But yeah, it's I I love it. My. dog photographs like [ __ ] though. I. never put up pictures of my dog. He's. this sweetheart, but it looks like a. [ __ ] wig and a hamper. Just sucks. I. can't humiliate an ugly [ __ ] dog I. have in in pictures. But in person, he's. great. But I just I never post pictures. It's just it's Put a filter on him. Nothing's going to help. He's just kind. of sitting there. Looks like he's. [ __ ] like homeless. Like some. homeless guy's dog. But I do uh I love. having him, but the [ __ ] in the. house is very difficult. A yeah, I think.

that's when I first got him. A See, he. looks a little like a Cavapoo. That's. adorable dog. Then he was, but as he's. gotten older and his hair's gotten. longer, he's got shitty looking in. person. No, but on and I he photographs. [ __ ] terribly. Let me see a picture. Let me see a bad picture of your dog. Let me see if I have I put up on my. Instagram. I think I put up a video. recently and the screen grab. I tried to. find the cutest screen grab and I just. couldn't. So, let me see here. Maybe. it's just you. Maybe if I saw him, I'd.

think he's adorable. I can guarantee. you're going to go like he might be. great in person. It's like when somebody. But I wouldn't I would never uh I would. never classify this as a cute doll. Hold. on. I'm It's not opening because of uh But. I'll find it. Oh, there's no cell phone. signal in here. Is that on purpose? No, it's just the walls are thick. Do you. guys have Wi-Fi or No. Yeah, I can't. find it. Forget it. All right. It's. okay. I get it. Oh, wait. Is that it? That's That's actually not that bad. Oh, that's cute. But there was one I put. That's actually a very nice one. Look at. the little blue bow. Yeah, we've [ __ ].

Somebody in the house really mowed him. up. That wasn't my [ __ ] That's a cute. little dog. Yeah, that's a nice picture. But typically photographs very poorly. But uh we can't he won't stop [ __ ]. in the house. Like I can't uh Well, you. live in an apartment. Live in an. apartment. That's part of the problem. We put him on the terrace and she'll go. out there with him and and she walks. him. I won't walk them. It's like it's. your dog. I don't want to [ __ ] I. don't you know what I mean? Like I'm not. again I don't have that instinct. I'm. happy you have him and you love him, but.

um he just won't stop [ __ ] in the. house and I don't know what to do. I'm. getting to a point where like I I like. this is why I didn't want a [ __ ] dog. Yeah. I can't handle dog [ __ ] in my. house. It's kind of gross. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty gross. I heard that. Uh I. I'm debating do I pay for a trainer? Do. I pay for someone to come in and just. They might not be able to. So, it might. be one of them broken little [ __ ]. tiny dogs. You just can't stop [ __ ]. in your house. I don't know though. I. hope like one of those kind of dogs. Well, in New York it helps. Like you. have a small little uh first of all, I'm.

not qualified to own a big one. I don't. know how like people own like mastiffs. and in New York. In New York City, that's crazy. You can't and you can't. get insurance for them. That's what made. me like if you have a Doberman or. Rottweiler or Pit, you can't get. insurance, homeowners insurance. So, if. somebody gets bit, you're [ __ ] Oh, yeah. And that's what scared me about. those dogs. German Shepherd. Yeah, especially German Shepherds. Well, also. like those dogs need a lot of exercise. They need a lot of activity or they get. anxious and they get kind of crazy. because they're not supposed to be. penned in like that. They're working.

dogs. They're supposed to be out there. running around. And if you don't run. them, if you don't exercise them every. day, they they get like people do when. they don't exercise every day. They get. kooky. Yeah. I became a little obsessed. with you see those Caucasian shepherds? Like I want to pet one of those things. or those. Uh that's a big giant [ __ ]. thing. It comes up. It goes up like 200. lb. Yeah. It's [ __ ] hairy. It's a. disaster. Yeah. It's a werewolf. It's a. monster. But something like that I would. love to, you know, spend a moment with. or go someplace and and play with it. But I just, you know, Yeah. Look at that.

thing. Jeez. Slobbering all over your. [ __ ] sofa. 220 lbs. Jeez. Well, they. use those things to keep wolves away. from sheep. Yeah. Yeah. And Russian. prisons. I think I've seen footage of. Russian prisons like where they have. them around the perimeter uh in there's. a fence in between like freedom and the. jail and they kind of keep them in. there. I wonder what their temperament. is like. They're aggressive. That's what. I've heard. They're very aggressive. Bad. with people. Strong, powerful, alert, quick, dominant, calm. What? Yeah, they. just Somebody just threw adjectives up. there. How do they throw calm in there?

Steady, strong, independent, faithful, self- assured, calm. That's weird. Uh. the do you ever see those do what are. they called? Dogo are are I'm a Those. are they look like giant and pit bulls. They're gorgeous dogs, but again they're. hyper aggressive. They are aggressive, right? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Great guard. dogs. Hyper aggressive. They will [ __ ]. you up. And I think those were the dogs. that Ving Reigns had when someone he he. killed like someone working at his.

house. Yeah. When he was Ving Rams or. before. Yeah. Ving. I'm pretty sure it. was Ving Reigns. I think something. happened and someone maybe they were. there where they're not supposed to be. there or something happened and someone. I think it was someone working for him. got killed by his dog. Was he is is it. him or Charles Dutton who did time in. jail for murder. I think it was murder. I don't want to get sued but I think it. was Charles Dutton or him that actually. before they were actors went to jail. I. just don't remember if it was Ving Rams.

or Charles Dutton. I don't know. I don't. know. It was one of those guys that had. like a really interesting backtory. I. wonder if that happened. Let's go find. out with Ving Gra's dog first, then. we'll Google did Charles Dutton murder. somebody. I think I think it might have. been Dutton. I think you're right. This. is a funny thing to Google. Corner said. that the he did not die from in the. Vingra case, he did not die from dog. bites. They were waiting for a. toxicology. Oh, did he maybe he had a. stroke and then the dog bit him? Like. sometimes that happens like if someone. has like a seizure, dogs will bite them.

Like dogs don't know what the [ __ ] is. going on. They freak out and they bite. them. When animals attack humans or other. animals, victims usually end up with. bites around the head and neck. He had. none. Uh, this leads us to believe he. went down for some other medical reason. Oh, that makes sense. So, the bites were. around his arms and his legs. So, yeah, the dog might have bull. mastiffs. English bulldog and three bull. mastiffs. 200 lb. Jeez. 200 lb. You. wonder if they were trying to wake him. up or trying to pull him somewhere or if. they were attacking because you're.

right. If they don't bite the face, what's the purpose of what were they. doing? I bet it wasn't. I I bet that's. what it was. Sometimes that does happen. when dogs will freak out if someone has. a seizure. They don't know what the. hell's going on. They like bite the. person. Yeah. Like what's he doing? They're freaking out, you know? Probably. not even bite him to try to hurt him, just try to stop whatever is happening. freaking him out. Well, there was. speculation after uh Sig Freed and Roy. when when Roy got dragged off. I don't. know what's true or not. Did Did the. thing bite his head or was it actually. trying to save him? Take him away. Yeah.

Um, I don't know what. Yeah, there was. like a lady that had a crazy hat or. something like that and the tiger was. kind of weirded out by this lady's hat. Is that what it was? That's what I. remember. But I I just remember. thinking, duh. Like the tiger just did. what tigers do and just decided I don't. like this anymore. Are they both dead? Bite you. I don't know. I know Roy Horn. died. I think I just saw they're making. a Netflix series about or Apple TV. series about him. Eight episode series. Andrew Garfield and someone else are.

playing. Did you ever see the HBO uh. thing on Liberace? Is is that where with uh Tom Opera? Well, it was Matt Damon and um what the. [ __ ] is his name? Who played Scott. Thorson? The guy greed is Good. You know. that guy? Michael Douglas. Michael. Douglas. Yeah. Michael Douglas played. Liberace, I believe, right? Didn't he? Did he? Yeah. I didn't remember that. Yeah, it was Michael Douglas and Matt. Damon. Oh, he played Scott Thorson. Matt. Damon. Yes. He played the guy who got.

plastic surgery to look like Liber. He's. a classic. What a psycho. Boyfriend, get plastic surgery to look. like him. I want to [ __ ] me. I know. That's the last person I would want to. look like. I go to a surgeon and say. anything but this. Isn't that that is. such a psychotic thing to want to [ __ ]. you. Oh my god, that's so crazy. I want. you to look like me. Get your chin done. and look like me. Is that a power thing. or is it a [ __ ] It's a very bizarre. Yeah, pure narcissism or just crazy.

Yeah, all the above. Power for sure. Power over that guy, right? He probably. had the ultimate power in that. relationship cuz he's Liberace. He's. this enormous superstar and this guy's. his [ __ ] you know? Like, I want you to. get a different chin. You're going to. look like me. He got a crazy chin. Yeah, he did. He looks He looks very silly. It. was a fun [ __ ] film, though. Yeah. Tom Papa had a part. Wow. It's a really [ __ ] Joey Diaz used to.

have a great bit about it about the. about the uh about the HBO thing. Yeah. I mean, Liberace was a [ __ ] weird. case, right? Because he had to pretend. that he was straight forever. Yeah. And. it's so obvious. Like today, he wouldn't. have to. No. Right. He could just be. Liberace, but back then he had Do you. ever see the song? There he is. Look at. that. Super straight. Look at the rings. You do you ever see the song when. Liberace winks at me? No. So, this is a. song that played on television in like.

the 1950s. when, you know, the world was in. innocent and a woman who was like. swooning when Liberace would wink at. her. And so, they played this. It's it's. Liberace playing the piano and like. looking at the girl and winking and then. it made like a twinkle in his eye when. it let's let's play it because it's it's. so bad. Here it is. Here it is. Put your. Put the headphones on. You got to see. this. What is it? 53. Is that what it said?

55. So she's watching him on TV and she. sings. Watch this. President. [Music]. divine. I found a brand new idol. He's. charming as can be. I really can't.

Wow. I start to shake. I start to shiver and. fiber in my being. It's a feeling very close to ecasy. [Music]. Wow.

[Laughter]. First of all, it looks like Jim. Florentine. It really creeps me out. I remember when he winks you hear the. piano key like little tinkle clink. clink. That's so weird. What a weird. time it was back there, dude. There's a. video of him too on Instagram where they. it was in the 60s when he was trying to. get with the uh he was trying to like, you know, be with the movement man. Be. cool, man. And it was like something. about something groovy and it's just him. on a piano with all of these like uh.

like, you know, 20 year olds just trying. so hard to get the kids. Oh, really? Oh, it's so It's in the 60s. It's I think. it's in the in it looks like it's like. 1967. 19 Yeah. Is that it? Oh, boy. Playing. [Music]. groovy. Look at these guys. Their pants. Hello.

God, look at their pants. The piano's. got flowers on it. God, people really lost their [ __ ]. minds in the 60s, didn't they? Yeah. This is very drug inspired. Imagine putting those pants on. Where's he does come out? I'm not sure. where he does. Oh, there he is. Ah, there he is. At least he's dressed for. the occasion. Look at him.

He's got the thumbs up. Look at his [ __ ] vest. [Music]. Look at him. God, that's so weird. [Music]. Liberace turning on. [Music].

Liberace's turning on. Isn't that great? God, that's so weird. And look, the. piano's moving and he had to hold two. girls like, "Yeah, I'm here to get some. puss." He's turning on. Yeah, this is. like the acid days. But it's so crazy. that like this was actually probably not. meant to be shitty and ironic, but it. was meant to be like, hey, he's this. cool guy getting with the scene. He's. getting with the scene, man. And he's. out there with his piano and all these.

weird people with flowers on their pants. and the dancing the dance routine is is. just not the straightest. Look at him go. with the vest. The vest is hilarious. Yeah, it's like plastic. Yeah, it's like. this [ __ ] raincoat that they turn. into a vest and a long like orange like. almost like Shakespeare sleeve type of. shirt. So strange. God, people were so weird. But you got. to think like in the 1960s, television. had only been around for like 20 years. Yeah, that's what's weird. This was.

really weird if you really stop and. think about it. It was so new. No one. It's kind of like the internet, right? Like the internet was the internet is. older today than television was then. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. It's 30 years. old now. Yeah. Yeah. The internet. basically came around. I got on the. internet for the first time in '94. I. got on America Online. You've got mail. Yes. And I remember this is crazy. I. couldn't believe it. It hooked up to my. phone. It was a 144 connection.

Yeah. 14K. Slow as [ __ ] Then I got 56K. I thought I was a boss like look at me. 56k. you know and I remember thinking this is. crazy like this never existed before so. that was 30 years ago 31 years ago this. was just 20 years after TV really like. when did TV really start happening in. the I want to say in the ' 50s yeah I. don't think it was in the 1940s I mean. it was in the 50s what was the first. television Hitler broadcast it I was but.

that must have been in the 40s there. there was cuz in the movie Contact where. they show you that Hitler broadcast I. which they say was like one of the first. you broadcast it on the radio or on. television. No, it was a TV. I think. they used to do a lot of World War II. stuff in the movie theaters. You'd go to. the movie theater and you get the news. The Allied front and they'd show you the. news. They'd show you like propaganda. footage of the news. Our troops are out. there fighting for your freedom. Yes. And the Japanese they show you. They.

show you the brave American troops. smiling. Yeah. Yeah. And then they'd. have those propaganda movies. Uh 1953, 50% of American households had a TV set. By the end of 1960, almost nine out of. 10 did. Wow. So, what was the first. television? When did it first Oh, they. had them. They started in the 20s and. then they were expensive as [ __ ] and. probably very big and there wasn't. anything to watch. So, why would you. have one? Oh. And then there was When. was the first broadcast? The first. television broadcast. Oh, well, it's Yeah, up until the 50s it was.

really just like public information, it. says. Oh, so just like the news there. wasn't I mean there wasn't a lot of. shows being made like what was the first. television show? Yeah. Let's see. Before. Cav remember Gleason did Cavalcade. I. think it was called Cavalcade was like. when the Honeymooners uh debuted and he. would do Reginal Van Gleason but I don't. that's definitely not the first one. I. Love Lucy was probably same time or. before that. Right. And what year was. that? Had to be the 53. 53 maybe 55 or. might have been later I don't remember. So probably the television really became.

like when did it become a thing where. people would watch the news? Probably like late 40s maybe. Yeah. Because 63 again the Kronhite broadcast. I mean so by then it was like in in full. effect. So you got to think that 63 with. you know Liberace or the the 55 one with. Liberace. That's so new. Yeah. That's. crazy new. And then 12 years later you. know when he's [ __ ] dancing with the. flower pants on. There's a Wikipedia. version. First national color broadcast.

The 1954 Tournament of the Rose Parade. US Kurd January 1st 1954. So the 1936. summer Olympics. Oh, they had the summer. Olympics. They they broadcast world. series it says was the first catalyst. like big big buying. Wow. You must have. been a boss if you had a [ __ ]. television in 1936. Yeah. And then first. like variety show was Milton Burl's. show. So he became known as Mr. Television. What year was that? 48. 47. 48. Wow. It took his radio show and made. it a TV show. So by the time that.

Liberace Dancing with the Pants On, it's. only 20 years old. Yeah. Which is really. wild. Was that 68th? I'm I'm going to. assume it was definitely late60s. 68 Red. Skeleton television hours. And And the fact that people just didn't. know he was a flaming homosexual. Like. the fact that How did you not know? How. did you not I guess there wasn't enough. uh gay people publicly so everyone. didn't recogn like people knew like when. you spoke a certain way that you could. be, but it wasn't I guess that wasn't.

like the the the voice that everybody. recognized. Well, everybody hid it too. You know, you had to hide it. You. imagine being a gay guy trying to find. other gay guys back then. Like, what did. you do? What a risk. Oh, yeah. It's like. being gay in North Korea. Like, how do. those guys [ __ ] What signal do you. give where you know the other guy's not. working for the state, right? You're in. a rest area. Even if he is, he might. throw you under the bus anyway. Like, they have a whole culture on throwing. people under the bus. On tattling. Yeah. Their whole culture is based on. tattling. And if you don't tattle on. people, they they assumed you did. something wrong. I'd still like to kind.

of go there. I wouldn't do it cuz I. wouldn't I would I would Yeah. Just. because they say there's all those fake. storefronts and all of those or or or. stores that are just for the tourists. that come through that they have all. those fake stores that people they get a. lot of tourism. Oh yeah. I mean they. they get enough like uh through China. They these companies that go through. China and every country doesn't have the. negative relationship that we do with. them. So I would kind of like to go but. I don't I wouldn't trust it after that. auto uh war what was his name? Warren. Waringer. Yeah. The kid that got sorry. for for taking a propaganda poster.

Yeah. Um, it would be very scary to go, but I I really kind of want to. They. have that giant building, the uh it's. like a thousand foot tall hotel or. building that is just kind of half. empty, like it's never was finished. They light it up at night so it looks. like they have a big downtown. Oh. But. the North Korea has like a thousand tall. thousand foot tall building. A YouTube. video of a guy that went his name's. Mike. Okay. He went three or four months. ago after they had not been open since. co. Really? Yeah. and he went just to.

tour around North Korea. He's a British. person, so he's not from America. Yeah. And you're not supposed to film a lot of. this stuff. These guys take really. really like clandestine footage. You're. allowed to film in certain areas, but I. think your phone you had to leave at the. border when you come in. Wow. Yeah. He. explains what he was do. I think he says. he wasn't supposed to, but he just Is he. eating food there? Yeah. He goes to a. few little towns, talks to him. I. remember watching some of this. It's. like a random Coke or something. somewhere or a Red Bull, I think. That's. so [ __ ] risky. It is risky because.

you just the wrong thing you do, you. insult them and next thing you know. you're in jail for the rest of your life. or you're beaten to death. Yeah. They. said that like if there's a picture of. Kim Jong-un or or Kim Jong- you have to. be respectful and you stand in front of. the pictures to take your photo. They're. really and they just rat on each other. Well, uh Shane Smith went Shane from. Vice back in the day like before things. got too crazy over there. And he said. that they set up a fake restaurant for. him. Like they pretended that they had. restaurants and so they had a fake.

restaurant and he went there and there. was like only him there and people were. serving them. Bizarre. Yeah, he said it. was really weird. I guess when you're. seen as a god and everybody just. co-signs it, you don't know how bad of a. liar you are. Like you don't know how. badly you're presenting because. everybody is just oh my god. Like right. So they have no idea. Kim Jong-un has no. idea that people look at him and go like. that's not real. Right. And then the. people that are there they have no. internet. like their their world is the. North Korean internet. They don't. they're not connected to the rest of the. world. No, they would uh I guess people.

will like sneak in thumb drives and. stuff like that of I know South Korean. TV. They catch you. If they catch you, you're [ __ ] But you know, you know, Assad Mseni uh he he's uh he's from. Afghanistan and he ran uh I think it was. called the Moby Group in Afghanistan, but they would go next to the Iranian. border and and pipe in uh like American. TV shows and they would illegally send. them over the border to try to get. people like a little bit westernized or. to at least see things a little bit.

differently. But it's an illegal feed. You're just shooting it over somehow and. you know, hoping they don't kill you. Hoping they don't kill you. Yeah. Speaking of kill you. Uh, what's that? Said speaking of kill you in Iran. What? Oh. Oh, what's going on there? Oh my. god. Yeah. Oh my god. But no one's. surprised. You know what I mean? Like I. bet the guys who got killed were. surprised. They were supposed to meet. with Trump to have a peace negotiation. Wasn't the time up. Didn't Didn't the I. thought the time lapsed. No. Did the. Israelis jump the gun on the time? Well,

the speculation according to Grock, I. sent Jamie this. Somebody said did were. they killed like ask Grock were they. killed because they were negotiating for. peace? You know that the Israelis wanted. they didn't want a negotiation. Oh. because they wanted to get those nuclear. sites out of there. They they didn't. trust the Iranians and they wanted to. make sure that these guys were gone. Yeah. They they essentially killed. everybody that he was uh negotiating.

with. So this guy's response above it, it says, "What evidence might there be. to support this position?" And the. position was, "Go above that." Yeah. Israel did not attack Iran because Iran. was about to attack Israel. Israel. attacked Iran because there was about to. be peace. And then this guy asked Grock, "What evidence might there be to support. this position?" And then Grock says, "Evidence suggesting Israel's June 13, 2025 attack in Iran aimed to disrupt US. Iran peace talks includes its timing. coinciding with the sixth round of.

nuclear negotiations scheduled around. June 12th through 14th, 2025. International reactions like the UN and. the Oman condemning the strikes as. undermining diplomacy support this view. However, Israel justified the attack as. a preemptive strike against Iran's. nuclear program, citing its. non-compliance with the IAEA. No direct evidence proves intent to stop. peace and the focus on nuclear sites. suggest security concerns drove the. action. The issue remains debated with.

perspectives varying by geopolitical. stance. This now ask Grock. Grock is. kind of Twitter's AI, right? How. influenced is it by like I chat GPT I've. gone to and I was kind of curious. because my wife's obsessed with it. So I. was like I think this is probably still. ideologically influenced for sure. So. other people have done this but I put in. write five jokes about Jesus and it did. five Jesus jokes and then I put in write. five jokes about Muhammad and it came. back with well we like to keep things.

respectful and blah blah and I did the. same thing with write five jokes about. white people and then write five jokes. about black people and it did the same. thing. thing. It wrote the white person. jokes, but the black people jokes it. wouldn't write. So, I was like, "Oh, okay. This is still. somehow tied in. There's guard rails and. it's it's ideologically slanted. It may. not always be that way." So, I'm. wondering if Grock is the same way. Like, is any answer it gives you almost. like coming from either somebody at PBS. or somebody from some place else? Grock.

is probably the best of them for that. But the worst was Gemini. Remember when. they asked Gemini to make photographs of. Nazi soldiers, and they had a diverse. group of Nazi soldiers, including Asian. women, Native American women? Yeah. Black people. Keep it Keep it fair, folks. Keep it fair. Keep it fair. They. just got locked up in this woke ideology. thing to the point where the the images. they created of Nazis were woke. I don't. know what happened where people become. so afraid of like I know truth can be. unpleasant sometimes but like where.

where where it goes to that level like. we will write jokes about Jesus but not. about Muhammad. Like I like who's. programming that and thinks that's a. good thing. Well, they're scared. They. are. That's what it is. I'd almost. respect them if they said they were. scared. Like if they said, "Look, we all. understand what goes on. We don't want. somebody running in with a bomb belt. like you know there's violent. retribution." I would respect that. But. they won't say that. No, they act like. you're crazy for questioning. What? Yeah. Ah, that's not true. It's not. Yeah, it's weird. We're in a weird.

stage. We're in a weird stage. We have. all the information, but it's still it's. still got guard rails on it. Do you feel. I feel better about myself, though, the. older I get. The more like, yeah, I I. years ago said it and knew it was. getting worse and worse and like I was. never stupid enough to think it didn't. exist. So, I kind of like, yeah, well, if nothing else, it validates what I. kind of thought. You know what I mean? Like I feel like all right, I wasn't a. [ __ ] idiot. I'm not taken off guard. by it. I knew it was coming. Yeah. Not. necessarily to this level, but you know,

when you saw this happening and then. that happening and then little weird. things like Donald Sterling, that one. always bothered me. Uh his private. communications being used against him. And it's like, does anybody Which one. was that? He was the owner of the Golden. State Warriors. I don't remember. Oh, this was the guy that girlfriend, the. Clippers. Yeah. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. The Clippers. Yes. He was the guy had. the girlfriend who was his little side. piece Vaviano. Yeah. And the girls the. girlfriend recorded him saying a bunch. of things about black people and it was. almost like he was like it wasn't like I.

don't think he was a hateful old guy but. he was just like an old guy like you. know I mean don't hang out with blacks. Well he was saying don't do it publicly. right. Yeah I feel like it embarrasses. me something like that. His friends are. probably calling him. Yeah but he was. you know he's talking to his sidepiece. and she's recording him. The whole thing. was gross. the invasion of even if he's. a piece of [ __ ] I don't care about him. But it's the idea that people are. comfortable like nobody sticks up for. privacy. Like everyone complains about. we went to Good and it's like hey.

[ __ ] where were you when this. guy or stupid Hunter Biden's big dick is. all over the internet. Where were you. complaining about it? You just judge. them on it. So I wish people would stop. doing that. Yeah. The the the Hunter. Biden stuff, the fun stuff was like him. smoking crack and hookers and foot jobs. It was just fun. Did he foot chubs? Yeah, he did a lot of stuff. There's a. lot of wild stuff going on in there. He's a wild boy. But I guess, you know, you're smoking crack. Sure. You know, had a tub unshaven. You got no guard. rails. You're off the [ __ ]. reservation. He's a naughty boy. But.

then the other stuff that was in there. was really interesting like the emails. about 10% to the big guy and all that. stuff. And there just be brutal, rampant, obvious corruption that they. just look the other way because it's a. Democrat. And it's just really strange. If Trump Jr. did anything that Hunter. did, right, they would kill him like. like they would it would be the front. page. It's all they would talk about. They certainly wouldn't have hid it from. Twitter. They wouldn't have uh which was. really crazy. It was a New York Post.

story and then the FBI got involved and. the Twitter files like you know when. Shelonburgger and Taibbe and all those. guys went over the Twitter files and. it's so damning. It's so it's it's so. crazy that that's not so illegal that. there's like just massive trials on. television and people are prosecuted for. it. I guess with private companies or. even though the media operates like but. it's the government. The government is. what I'm concerned with because it's. absolutely election interference. 100%.

100%. because there was a lot of people. that were on the fence, you know, they. they didn't know whether they're going. to vote for Trump or whether they're. going to vote for Biden or they didn't. know what they're going to do and then. they saw that and they were like, "Fuck. this." And guys like Jack from uh from. Twitter have come out and said like, "Yeah, we shouldn't have censored that. story, but it's like too late now." It's. like you did it and people were telling. you when you did it. You shouldn't do. it. Zuckerberg talked about it on this. podcast. He talked about the FBI getting.

involved on the podcast, censoring COVID. information, censoring the laptop. information, and that this weird feeling. that he got from the government all of a. sudden telling them what they and some. of the stuff that they were telling them. they had to take down was actually true, factual information. And they were like, "Oh boy." And so they diminished its. reach and they did a lot of weird [ __ ]. And the penalty for not taking it down. would have been like what are they. threatening them with like uh section. 230 is a big one that all the big. companies are scared of like if they.

change that uh because they said that. like the internet freedom comes from. section 230 where a company can't be. held legally liable for what's posted on. their site which is how like you can. post anything about people and the sites. themselves can't get sued because. they're like yeah we're just like a. phone company. It's a public square. A. public square. Um although it's not. anymore. It's much more ideologically. based and it's much more of a publisher. in my opinion than a public square. But. maybe they threaten you with that or. maybe that's where they start to go like. we'll see to it at the 230. I mean I'm.

guessing but what else could they. threaten them with? Yeah, it's a good. question. I mean just the fear of being. on the wrong side of the government. I. mean that's the thing because then they. could go after you like you know for. someone like Zuckerberg who had already. sat in front of those congressional. hearings and they you know they had. already asked him about a bunch of. different things that the company had. done and you remember those weird. those weird u hearings that he had to. sit through where he sip water very. strange and people said he's a [ __ ].

robot. He's probably so nervous. Of. course he is. Yes, senator. No, senator. Thank you for asking, Senator. Like all. those weird moments like you got to be. terrified of those people because they. could change laws or they could just. decide to prosecute you for thing. I. mean look what's happening to the guy. Durov from Telegram. I don't know that. story. You don't know that story? No. He. is essentially uh he's under house. arrest in France. He has not been tried. with anything. He has not been charged.

with anything. But what they're saying. is essentially they want a backdoor to. Telegram. Telegram is an encrypted app. and a lot of people use it for illegal. things just like a lot of people use. Twitter for illegal things. A lot of. people use DMs for illegal things. They. they I'm sure they use Signal for. illegal things and WhatsApp for illegal. things. And they wanted a Telegram was. especially popular amongst criminals and. they wanted to be able to get in there. But then the question is like well what. do you determine as a criminal? Is it a.

political dissident? Like is it, you. know, what is it? What does it mean? Is. it is are you looking for underage. people being photographed or are you. looking at just people who like they can. always expand what they consider to be. illegal? Um I mean they took back page. down so they can get certain company. like if you don't do what they want you. to do there is a way for them to get you. by saying you're too complicit in. certain activities. So you want that's a. silk road. That's that's what happened. with that Russ Alrech. Yeah. Yeah. And. now he's luckily uh Trump freed him. Did.

he Did he pardon him? I Oh, he did. Trump pardon him. Yeah. Yeah. We tried. to get him on, but he's just not ready. to talk, which is totally. understandable. I said, "If you ever do, if you want to talk, I'd be happy to. hear your story." Well, cuz you're. probably afraid that they're going to. come with something else. Like, it's. almost like you don't want to put it in. their face. Now, I'm out. [ __ ] those. people. What they did to me was wrong. Oh, new charges. That's right. That's. why whenever somebody's exonerated after. 30 years of being in jail, they're like, I I'm not even angry. I just want cuz. you're afraid you're going to say the. wrong thing and then you go, "All right, we're going to come back." Well, that.

was the really scary thing about the. Trump stuff like when they were trying. to get him for 34 felony counts. None of. those were a felony. All of them were. past the statute of limitations. It was. just bookkeeping errors or bookkeeping, you know, they they wrote down the wrong. things and they tried to hide the fact. that he was making hush money payments. But the the reality of that legal system. being used against you, lawfare being, you know, they target you like the the. real estate one when they they tried to.

say that he overvalued Mara Lago and it. was really only worth $18 million and so. they charged him like hundreds of. millions of dollars, which is [ __ ]. insane because Mara Lago is an enormous. piece of property that is on the most. expensive place in the country like that. area. He's got I think he's got is it. more than 20 acres there? I mean, it's a. huge piece of property there. And the. next door neighbor had a place that was. like 5 acres and it sold for $50 million.

just the property. Yeah. So, they [ __ ]. him. They [ __ ] him. And it's obvious. that they were [ __ ] him. They were. they were doing it because they were. trying to make him a felon when he was. running for president. Yeah. Leticia. James went after him really badly in New. York. And turns out she had done some. little bank uh little bank stuff going. on. Yeah. She did some little mortgage. questions. Yeah, she did some. inappropriate things. But he's a whether. people like him or not, I like I don't. always agree with him at all, but he's. an amazing person. Like to to have.

withtood that the pressure of that again. just as a to to continue with with the. pressure that they were putting on him. and the way they were coming after him. and to still run again and wait. I mean, it's the [ __ ] craziest thing you're. ever going to see in your life. And they. shot him. And they shot him and they. were the guy was going to do it again. uh or tried to and another and a [ __ ]. uh oh yeah that the guy with the hole in. the in the fence where his golf course. was kooky. It's kooky. But it's like and. somebody pointed out to me it's like I. mean I'm surprised he doesn't expect.

this. It's like he went after them like. he he went after the CIA and the FBI and. it's like they're going to make it their. life's work. I know to come after you. now. It's also crazy when it gets real. transparent like that though, you know. But when someone like Zuckerberg or any. of these other people that run a foul of. the federal government or the. intelligence agencies when they see. stuff like that, I understand why they. comply. Yeah. They're probably [ __ ]. terrified. It is a little or very scary. when they when you're on their like you. never want them to dig in and be focused.

on on you. Eye of Sauron. Yeah. Yeah. We're coming for you. And because again, they don't pay they don't pay legal. fees. They can do it all day. They can. do it through the next administration. Um because Leticia J, she went after uh. uh what I didn't like about her uh was a. lot. Uh but I didn't like the fact that. they went after Cuomo for his book. money. Like they went after Andrew Cuomo. for his book money. I think they wanted. him to get back. Yeah. For what reason? I don't know what her reasoning was. I. mean, obviously she just wanted to stick. it to him and [ __ ] him, but I I think it.

was that he it was seen as some form of. a government payment or I don't remember. the technicality, but I remember being. very annoyed that she was trying to go. after I think it was a $5 million. advance. Lawfair is [ __ ] terrifying. It's terrifying when they do that to. people when everybody could see it. Like. that's the real problem with the Trump. one. And my problem wasn't my my real. problem was like, don't these people. understand? Doesn't the general public. with their lack of outrage because you. know he's on the right and they're on. the left. Don't those people understand.

that now they've set a precedent and. then they could use that on you now. Yeah. Or anybody else. And if a. Republican president gets in like. there's in now, it could be easily used. on his opponents because they've set a. precedent. That's scary [ __ ] man. It's. really scary. And nobody, again, it's. like whether it's with Donald Sterling. and privacy, nobody sticks up for each. other on principle. And the. conservatives don't do it like the. they've got like the free speech thing. in their corner now much more than. progressives do. But it's like I don't.

hear them sticking up for progressives. who are annoying. It's like you have to. stick up for people you don't like. Yes. And that you think are [ __ ] It's not. just you're not a big free speech. warrior if you only [ __ ] raise a flag. for people who agree with you. And I. find them falling into that trap. It's. like, don't fall into that [ __ ] trap. Stick up for progressives who suck and. who are saying stupid things. Defend. their right to say it without getting in. trouble. Don't look at them getting. fired is, oh, good, good case of your. own medicine. Like, we get it. But then.

that's how they justify you getting. fired 100%. So, it drives me crazy that. people don't defend other people's right. to privacy or right to say what they. want. And everyone in the country thinks. they're a free speech absolutist, but. they're not. They're not. Yeah. Elon's. as close as I've seen. like he doesn't. seem to be shutting anybody up like. regardless of what they say on his. platform. People are talking [ __ ] about. him every day. I saw one person was was. alluding to uh bad things happening to. him uh you know like wanting that or I. wouldn't say encouraging it but close to.

encouraging it. And I'm like if he's. leaving that up nobody has any room to. complain. Yeah. Like if he leaves up. horrible [ __ ] about himself then and but. he also left up the Kanye song. The. Hitler song. Oh yes. Is that where he. blew his cousin or is that a different. one? That's a different one. Oh wow. All. the hits. Yeah. The I mean these the. song is Hy Hitler. He's singing Hyle. Hitler like in a catchy song. It's like. wow. I this is crazy. It is crazy. And I. don't know Kanye West at all. I've never. particularly loved him. I I I find a lot.

of it is just like he'll just say the. most troll. Like something tells me he's. going to come back down to earth one day. and go, "Look, I was off my medication. I didn't mean any of that [ __ ] that I. said. I feel bad about it. I think he's. going to stay off his medication. I. think when he puts on his medication, he. can't be creative. I think part of his. thing, whatever his the way his mind. works. Yeah. You know, I mean, it's this. mania. There's Yeah. I was going to say. I understand that in a way because I've.

I've always liked, you know, you go. through your pressure, whatever. I'm. like, do I want to go on something? But. I've always been scared that it would. [ __ ] up my probably will creativity. Yeah, it probably will. I mean, I think. I mean, I don't know what's going on in. Kanye's mind or anybody's mind other. than my own, but I would imagine that. you mean a guy like Kanye who's so. prolific. I mean, he's put out so many. albums and he's a complete workaholic. and just has like when you talk to him, like I had him on the podcast and it's. almost like when you're talking, he's.

upset. Like he doesn't want he wants to. talk. He wants to just constantly talk. Yeah. like his brain's like a tornado. just it's all just going all these. different thoughts and but that's also. why he can make so many great songs. It's like it's all just pouring out of. him. But you know it also gets out of. hand and then you know you wind up in. the situation where he's in now. It also. he's the only person he went into him. and Trump were he was in Trump's office. one time and he's the only person I've. ever seen Trump just kind of sit there. and go all right well whenever he's. finished I'll jump in. I've never seen.

anyone do that to Trump. Well, Trump was. happy that any celebrity was on his side. because at that point he was Hitler, you. know, there was a lot of people that. were calling him Hitler and to have a. guy like Kanye West who was such a. contrarian. Also, there was the thing. because Obama said he was a jackass. Yes. And so he was like, "Oh, really? Well, [ __ ] you." That's right. It was. about the Taylor Swift thing. Oh, yeah. That's right. That's right. Yeah. That. guy's a jackass. Well, it wasn't even. that harsh of an in. He said it. privately and I think somebody heard it.

or it was picked up on a mic. I don't. think he said it to be public. I thought. I thought he said it privately and then. somebody got the audio or whatever. Is. that It was really the Taylor Swift. thing. I believe it was. Yeah. Oh, here. it is. Here. Yeah, it wasn't. Young lady seems like a. perfectly nice person. She's getting her. award. What's he doing? Why would he do. that? He's a jackass. No, no. This all this stuff. Cut this. out. Look, I'm assuming all this stuff.

Where's the pool? Come on, guys. Cut the president some slack. See, it. wasn't even that and he wanted that cut. out. Yeah, that was private talk. Yeah. And it wasn't even said with real. malice, real ranker. Yeah. It was just. like he's a jackass. People laugh. I. guess that would annoy me if I was him. I mean, if I was him. Yeah. If it was. me, I'd be like, "Yeah, he's right." I. guess so. Yeah. Like, yeah, I was being. a jackass. But at what point do you cuz. you know, everyone has a Joe Rogan. opinion. Everyone weighs in on you. It's.

crazy. Like I see on the Daily Mail all. the time. At what point are you able to. go like I just don't give a [ __ ] what I. don't read any of it. You don't care? Nope. I don't read any of it. No. I. guess. Does it bother you? Has it ever. bothered you? You can't do anything. about it. Why would it bother you? What. are you going to do? You going to change. their mind? You know, you can't. And a. lot of it is disingenuous. A lot of it. they don't know you. They don't listen. to what you say. You know, if they far. right, whenever they say far right, far. right podcast, I'm like, "Okay." Yeah. I've had comics say that like they just.

don't know and I'm like you don't really. you really never paid attention. I mean. he stuck up for gay marriage. He loves. Bernie. Like it's crazy when you hear I. I was very jealous that you and I talked. to Hinchcliffe about this when you. interviewed Magnus uh Magnus Carlson. Carlson. Yeah. There's very few people I. really want to meet that I haven't met. But he's somebody you see him like bang. the chess board. That was like big news. in chess. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz he lo he made. a fumble. He [ __ ] up. He was ahead of. the game. He was winning. Yeah. made a. blunder. It was it and it was and but. here's the genius of the people like.

they actually call it like uh sport and. the the the people watching it knew he. [ __ ] up which means they're all. geniuses. Right. Right. Magnus. blundered. Magnus blundered. They. couldn't believe he had made that. It. was I think it was a rook move. But he's. somebody I would like to uh I don't know. what I'd talk to him about. Oh, he is. fascinating. Fascinating. Well, any high. achiever or really highlevel person like. that, world champion in something that's. insanely difficult, they're fascinating. people. I feel that way about MMA.

fighters, any kind of pro alete, anybody. who's like Aaron Rogers, like any any. highlevel performer, those are very, very unusual people. Do you give them. slack? Like, and I mean just in in your. brain as a person, like if they're a. little whatever. If they're rude, they're rude. But if if somebody's a. little quirky or weird, if if you're. that good at something, that might just. be the price you pay. Oh, for sure. Like. Bobby Fischer, I love. He's one of my. favorite people ever. Even though he. completely went berserk, but I just I. have such an affection for Bobby. Fischer, and I'm like, well, it's just.

he's such a genius that sometimes it. just there's a price. It gets away from. you. 100%. I think it absolutely does. and can. And I think that when you. you're dealing with a highlevel. performer in in any discipline, whatever drives them to be that much. better than anybody else probably makes. them insane. I mean, I just don't think. I don't think real true excellence. comes without a price. I don't I don't. think there's any way to get there.

without just not being balanced in a. bunch of other areas of your life. because you're focusing almost all of. your attention on one very specific. thing. Whether it's moving chess pieces. around or throwing a football, whatever. the [ __ ] it is, like you're there's no. way you can be balanced in every aspect. of your life if you want to be 5% better. than anybody who's ever done it. Yeah. And it is weird too like because to be. better than everybody at something Yeah. It it's I mean whether like if you ever. talk to somebody at a party just what.

our life is doing standup and they're. talking about their job a lot of times. I'm like oh shut the [ __ ] I don't care. give a [ __ ] I know um so to be that on. such a level better than everyone on. earth at something has got to it's got. to be hard not to live in that place. where you can't relate very few things. are interesting uh very few things are. are moving right like Buzz Aldrin uh. snapped at me when we interviewed him. he's a bit of a cranky uh guy let's Not. dillydally. I've got to get to CNN. [ __ ]. you. That's what he said. Yes. I asked I.

I asked him a question, a good question. about his book on Mars. I asked him. about space travel and I said about uh. what type of psychological testing would. you maybe need to go on a three-year. space trip? And uh good question. Thank. you. Uh John, I felt it was too Buzz did. not. He [ __ ] snapped at me. So I But. but again, like Rean had a bit about him. walking on the moon and it's like when. you've gone there, it's almost like. anything else. And I took it, by the. way, because it was Buzz. I wasn't gonna. yell at him. It's like, he's [ __ ]. Buzz Aldrin. Whatever. I'm an annoying.

blinking idiot asking a question that I. think sounds smart and he just shut me. up. But like, how how do you find other. people interesting when you're that guy, right? When you've done that, maybe my. question was just banal and stupid. Well, there's a lot of people like that. that are the best at the whatever the. [ __ ] they do that they can't relate to. anybody else other than other people. that do their thing, and they're usually. like very competitive with those people. So they've alienated them from their. friend group as well, which is really. kind of crazy. Well, the worst is people. who think they're that guy and who are. just and they're mediocre. They're just.

like average comics. Oh, that's the wor. the comics are the worst with that. The. the narcissist comics that believe. they're better than everybody else when. they're just mediocre. It's crazy. And. then they just like [ __ ] on all the. other comics. It's like, do you ever. watch your own act? Like do you don't. hate your act? Like that's crazy. It it. is. and and you think you're doing. Shakespeare and like every comic like we. all have a narcissistic quality like you. need that to be in front of people look. at me like that's a narcissistic quality. but there's a difference between that.

and being like a legit narcissist and. the way comics are [ __ ] very petty. about guys like they attack Matt Refe. I'm like he's harmless he's just out. there doing his act in front of [ __ ]. 20,000 people they hate him because he's. successful but if he was nobody they. wouldn't hate him that's all it is man. there's so many you very rarely see. these comics attacking someone who's not. doing as well as them. It's always a guy. who is doing better, who they feel I'm. entitled, doesn't deserve it. Yeah. Yeah. My comic is so much more cerebral,

so much more interesting. Like, oh, is. it really? I that's one thing I'll say. for myself and this I have a lot of. faults, but I've always put the blame. squarely where it belongs on me. I never. think it's the world. Everybody loves. you. It's it I mean that's a very good. quality to have, you know, like maybe. self-deprecating to a fault. Like you're. a little bit self-deprecating to a. fault. Like I don't care. I don't know. how many times I've had to tell you, "No, Jim, you're [ __ ] great. Stop.". You know, like you and I have had a lot. of those conversations. And but I don't.

do it for It's better than me saying, "Jim, you're not great." Yeah, Jim, you're okay. Jesus [ __ ] Christ. Leave. everybody else alone and look at. yourself. But I don't I don't do that. because I want people to compliment me. either. Like I I'm never out there. going, "Gee, guys, am I fat?" That's. repulsive, but but it's the guys who. think like I I I went and watched and I. don't know, Matt. I just I went and. watched some of his clips. I'm like, he's funny. He's just doing crowd work. Like, what's the problem? And he's good. at it. He's good at it. It's a reason. why the arena's full. First of all, very. handsome, good-looking guy, cute, adorable, lovable, really nice guy in.

real life. I knew him before he was ever. famous. I met him when he was 20 years. old. He was coming around the store. He. was a nice [ __ ] guy. I've been. friends with him for a long time. I. don't understand that hate. But I, you. know, I was coming from a different. position. You know, I was coming from a. position where I was already famous and. I wasn't looking to be more. I wasn't, you know, there some people that like. always feel like they haven't gotten. enough. They haven't gotten enough. credit, haven't got enough respect. You. know, that these other people are. stealing from them. Yeah. It's a famine.

mentality. It's a terrible mentality to. carry around with you because you never. heal from it. If you go through life. with this famine mindset and everybody. else is doing better than you, like you. you have the worst attitude ever for. getting good at things because you're. always going to be focusing too much of. your attention on other people. Yes. You're really sabotaging yourself. whether you believe it or not. What. they're getting, what they're doing. It's the feeling of entitlement. Like if. I was if I was bitter about every person. that used to open for me that passed me,

I mean I'd be on a comedy club roof with. an AR-15. I'm just I couldn't handle it. I mean, you have to learn to live with. it and go like, "Yeah, you know what? I. recognized people that were funny.". Like, I like funny people and I was. right about certain people. Like, they're really good comics. So, yeah, it's that sense of entitlement that guys. get that drives me [ __ ] crazy. But I. see them attacking certain people doing. well and I'm like, I don't. They always. did it to Kerattop even though he's. actually funny. He's a funny comic. It's. a funny show. I've been to a show in. Vegas. It's [ __ ] great. And he's a.

really nice guy. He's not a mean guy. It's doesn't deserve anyone's hate. He's. a sweetheart. Yeah. You know, when I had. him on the podcast, he was so happy and. so thankful that like someone wasn't. [ __ ] on him and then he said like, "Dude, I got great crowds now. My crowds. are packed." Like, it's a great show. If. you're in Vegas, go check him out. It's. fun. And he's a really nice guy. And I. watched him uh uh like on Kill Tony, there's a clip of him and they pulling. out these things and like gay mouse. It. was a disco ball over a mouse trap. And. it was so stupid, but it's like it's it.

was really is funny stuff and silly. Comedians think all props are bad or all. and me and Colin talked about that one. time and he goes, "Why should the hacks. own McDonald's?" Like meaning like if. you have something that's original and. funny to say about a subject, who cares. if hacks have touched it? If your. thought is original, oh [ __ ] [ __ ] them. Exactly. Um and it's this weird thing. where comics think they sound smarter if. they go after certain things. Yeah. It's. stupid. It's a dumb perspect. It should. be here's the world through my eyes and. everything is in the world. Traffic is.

in the world. If you have a traffic joke. and it's actually legitimate. Like maybe. you have a perspective on traffic that. I've never heard before. Maybe your. airline travel bit will be the airline. travel bit that I really love. Cuz you. know there's that's the problem with. comics too is that when you're on the. road too much, your experiences are very. limited because all you're doing is. performing in front of people, hanging. out in the green room, going to dinner, flying in a airplane, staying in a. hotel. So, how many comics have jokes. about hotel rooms and you know they.

knock on the door even when the do not. disturb is on, you're jerking off. Like, how many guys have done those jokes? Yes. But it's just cuz you you have a. very limited experience to draw from. I. actually I I started taking days off. Um. and my wife and I will go on vacation. somewhere. We'll do because it becomes. where you're feeding on yourself. Like. you you're only doing ABC D ABC and. there's no life. And I'm like, what am I. going to [ __ ] talk about? We get it. You were at New York airport. and it. sucks. Yeah. So, I I I just wanted to do. more life things. A cuz it's fun to do,

but B, it's like just I allowed myself. to cuz I'm like you could at least talk. about it on stage. It's not you can't. just talk about being a comic or your. right I'm I'm almost too much talk about. myself. Like I want to start talking. about other things. I just feel like the. only thing I'm really qualified to. discuss in my own life, but I kind of. want to talk about other [ __ ] too cuz. like life is kind of stable now and it's. I don't know what to do with that. I. don't know how to handle, you know what. I mean? and like not being out and being. crazy and [ __ ] riding around for four. hours a night with a piss cup in my car.

I mean, it was just it was an ugly it. was a [ __ ] ugly scene show. That's. what I did when OA were kicked off the I. would ride around and just [ __ ] just. ride around for for for hours a night. Listen, I couldn't listen to any comedy. I couldn't because I was so in such a. [ __ ] depression. I would put on. sports radio 660. Uh Joe Beningo. overnight. I don't know. Do you know who. he is? No. He was a guy on 660 240 on. the fan and he was a Jet fan and he was. a [ __ ] maniac. But I would listen to. him complain about the Jets and or Art. Bell. I I fell in love with Art Bell.

There he is right there. Ah, I didn't. even notice that. Yeah, he's on the wall. now. That's how I heard about Miokaku. was from him. Um, and I tell you he. lived in my building in New York. Yeah. So, I uh would listen to Art Bell and I. would listen to Joe Baningo and just. look at Hookers all night and uh I piss. in a cup and I would [ __ ] ride around. and it was just my my way of and go to. bed, wake up maybe eight hours later and. go do Tough Crowd when I was on. It was. a very crazy [ __ ] time. Yeah. So, now.

when OA got pulled, that was a that was. an interesting moment of censorship, right? Like that homeless guy came on. and said terrible things about Condisa. Rice and the Queen of No, that's the. difference. We got fired was for Sex for. Sam. That was uh 20 That was when. someone had sex in a uh church. Yeah. You got points. That's right. That's. right. That's right. But the company had. signed off on the bit. Like I got why. they were mad, but they had signed off. It was a sponsored bit. The company knew. what was going on. So ONA could have.

survived that if the company didn't uh. throw them under the bus, panic. And in. fair, it's so much, it's so funny, like. regular radio is what saved the career. because when XM suspended the show for a. month, we were on KRock at that time, right? And they kept us on for the. month. So then eventually we came back. to satellite a month later, but I think. they would have one of those days. Yeah. Yeah. It's I'm I'm not doing radio now. It's the first time in 20 years. It's. very strange. Wow. To uh to not have to. be up. Um, I get up at like 9:00 now and. just go to the gym, so I have some kind.

of schedule. But it's very weird after. 20 years to be gone from that. Yeah, you've been on radio forever. It's been. more than 20 years, hasn't it? Well, it. was 20 on this run and like But well, the when did the O and start? OA I did. in like 2001 2002. Okay. We got fired. Came back on October of04 and my. contract expired the end of December. Jan of 24. So it was about 22 years. total. Every comic owes OA a debt of.

gratitude. All of us do. Without them, I. don't think there would be podcasts. I. think that was the real podcast because. that was the first time we realized cuz. O and A did the show with no structure. Whereas like I did Howard a bunch of. times, but when you did Howard, you were. a guest. They wanted stuff that you were. going to talk about. They had questions. for you. They had setups. You know, they. were ready. And then a couple times I. did Howard where you would write jokes. for him. So you would sit there and. there was an overhead projector. It was. the Jackie chair when Jackie left,

right? So they brought a bunch of us in. and then Arty wound up doing it uh all. the time. I couldn't do it. I just like. it was too early in the morning. It was. like I didn't want to live in New York, but I did it a bunch of times. But it. was structured, you know, and Howard was. always in control of it. And he's. actually running the keys, you know, he's he's running the board, the. soundboard. And you know, it was a very. structured show. And you know that's how. he did it forever. I get it. But the way. O and A did it was so different. There. was no structure. You'd go in there and. you sit and just have fun. Yeah. And it.

was be Patrice and you and me and. [ __ ] you know everybody would come in. Voss and Bobby and all these different. people would come in. Burr and you know. I mean and it was some of the wildest. moments ever like the baby bird that. it's I'll never see anything crazier. than that in my life. Never. Yeah. Yeah. He died recently, huh? Pat. from Monaki. Yeah. Pataki. Pat Filman, I. think his name was. Rest in peace, Pat. from Munaki. That one thing that you did. that one day was one of the most.

shocking things I've ever seen in my. [ __ ] life. Yeah. It was uh Ari was. there with me. Burr was there. And I. remember it was my idea. I think it was. right. Because, you know, I was doing. Fear Factor at the time. I was used to. people doing horrible [ __ ] And I was. like, "How about you lean your head over. the garbage can and he throws up in your. mouth." Yeah. And [ __ ] Pat Duffy was such a psycho. He was like, "Okay, he would do. anything. He brushed his teeth with cat.

shit." I I thought it was dog [ __ ] but. you might be right. But I'm going to Pat. Duffy was a [ __ ] [ __ ] psycho. He. was like a marine if interns had that. He was a seal. He was a seal. Fearless. He was funny. He didn't give a [ __ ] He. got it. He was great. He was great. He. was the best like radio employee of all. time. He really was. And that moment was. the [ __ ] craziest thing I'd ever seen. in my life. I couldn't believe it was. happening. And the amount of vomit that. was coming out of Pat's mouth when he. was thrown into Pat Duffy's face and Pat. was lying there with his mouth open.

letting I mean people at home listening. to this, you know, come on. There's cell. phone footage of this. Yes. From like a. 2002 cell. There it is. 2007. Yeah. Was. it 2007? Yeah. And because we're in. KRock, that's the Krock studio right. there. Look at He throws up in his. mouth. His mouth is wide open. It was so. disgusting. And it kept coming. Yeah. Because Pat drank like some [ __ ] like. 70s something things of eggnog. Like two. gallons of eggnog. It was [ __ ]. insane. And he had D. Oh, there it goes. There it goes. And it would just keep.

coming like you're like, "No, it's. over." And if you hear us in the studio, we're all screaming. [Applause]. and he just keeps throwing up. You think. it's over? You think it's over? Nope. He's got more. And at the end, I mean, it's cartoonish. It's like that scene in Stand by Me with. the blueberry eating contest. Yes. Or in. Monty Python. It keeps going. It keeps. going. It doesn't end. He thinks it's. over. Oh, it was [ __ ] absolutely.

completely insane. Do you ever see the. meaning of life, Monty Python, when the. guy want a waffer thin mint massure and. he starts vomiting? Get me a bucket. I'm. going to throw up. This what he reminds. me of because he's not moving. He's. standing there and his mouth opens and. the vomit just shoot. Dude, usually you. wretch and you move, but he just opened. his mouth and it was like a button got. pushed and a [ __ ] It's the craziest. [ __ ] thing I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. And if it wasn't There it is.

Exactly. It's just like But it's not. That's not even as extreme. No. Look how. fat that guy is. I mean, it was just. great. Insane. A wuffer thin mint. And. you know that show having that kind of a. format let us all realize how fun it is. to just get comics together and just. talk [ __ ] Yeah. You know, and then when. Anthony started doing Live from the. Compound when he did his own show that. was re and and then of course Tom Green. show cuz Tom Green had his own show in. his living room and I I was a guest on. that too and I was like that really lit. the light bulb in my head. Yeah. But.

when Anthony started doing his own show. from his basement, I was like, why don't. I do something like that, you know? I. could see. And he had a professional. setup. He had he had [ __ ] beer kegs. and he had beer on tap and he was doing. karaoke with a machine gun. Machine gun. I mean, just a psychopath singing, you. light up my life with a [ __ ] AR-15. But he was having a good time. And I. remember there the radio station was. trying to get him to stop doing it. XM. or Sirius or whoever it was was trying. to get him to stop doing it. And he was. like, "But why? It's not radio." If.

anything, he's getting more people to. watch the radio show. He would do it on. weekends. It didn't interfere with the. show. It was like he would just go and. [ __ ] around. And that was back when we. were on Pal Talk, too. Remember? Oh, god. Yeah. Yeah. The video would be on. POW Talk cuz most people would only be. watching or listening on radio, right? But then they would broadcast live on. Pal cuz it was like so unheard of. Like. nobody was doing that. That was how the. Anthony Weiner dick photo got out. really. That was from Opie and Anthony. That was we had Vincent Tenafhrio in.

studio and we had um Andrew Breitbart. and uh cuz I had met Breartart doing. Redeye on Fox. So they both came in and. we were talking and the pal talk window. was open and apparently I didn't like. Andrew had the picture of Anthony. Weiner's dick. So he showed us in. studio. We just looked at it on the. phone. I didn't but apparently Anthony. held it up to the pal talk window and. showed them and somebody grabbed it. Oh. wow. And that was how that photo got. out. Wow. Sirius XM and sticky.

situation. I want an investigation from. Sirius into what the hell happened. there. Breitbart says after he shows an. X-rated picture to shock jocks Opie and. Anthony who then share it on Twitter. Maybe one of the guys tweeted it too, but I it was one of the but Breitbart. got mad at me and he's like I was. friends with Jim Norton and he told this. to Elliot Spitzer on his show and he. goes and he betrayed me. But I really. didn't. It wasn't me. I was doing Tom. Papa's [ __ ] podcast. So he thought. you did it. He thought I set him up, but. I really didn't. No. Um and I saw him.

years later in LA and we I explained it. to him and he was very cool. I was happy. cuz right before he died. So I always. liked him. I was happy that we at least. I got to tell him, "Dude, that wasn't me. at all." Did they whack him? Did they. whack Andrew Breart? No, cuz they would. have crashed the site. I mean, he was. doing coke, right? Wasn't it an overdose. or something? I think he had a heart. attack. Oh, it was a heart attack. I. thought it was I'm just starting rumors. He was doing coke, right? No, I don't. remember. I mean, maybe he was doing. coke, but I think it was a heart attack. I think there was a lot of suspicion. that he might have got whacked really. because Yeah, he was one of those guys.

that was, you know, exposing a lot of. [ __ ] Yeah, but they didn't they didn't. crash the site. Did the site change. after he was gone? Wearing headphones. God damn it. It's just so You just put. them on. No wonder I was enjoying myself. so much. Yeah, we did. When Liberace. winks at me, Liberace got you to wear. headphones. He sure did. I just noticed. that you were wearing them. Yeah, I. didn't notice either, but when Liberace. wings, you have to hear it in both ears. Yeah, there was some there was some. speculation that he got whacked. But. whenever anybody dies, there's.

speculation they got whacked. Yeah, I. didn't I didn't know that. Um, but I. felt bad about that. Collapsed on the. street near his home. Collapsed on the. street near his home. Hypertrophic. cardio myopathy. Focal coronary arthuroscllerosis. Died from congest congestive heart. failure which had been diagnosed the. year before. Oh, so he had a heart. attack. Okay. Yeah. Well, I mean, when. you're running a site like that, I mean, imagine the stress. It's constant. Yeah.

And then, you know, you're also like. your your business is exposing people. politically and opening up yourself to. potential assassination. Well, who do. you think put up the Opian Anthony. homeless Charlie audio? Oh, he did. It. was Andrew Breart. It was before I knew. him, but that that's where it went up on. Breitbart and the headline was, "Will. this crash? Will this stop the merger. between Sirius and XM? Wow. So that was. why they reacted because they were. afraid. I think people in regular radio. wanted to stop that merger. Oh, 100%. So.

they uh radio was terrified of SiriusXM. They were terrified of it. And I think. so I think they pushed that story hoping. that it would [ __ ] tank the merger, which of course it did not. Do you. remember those days when you first went. over there? It was so crazy because we. could talk like we could talk in the. green room. Yeah. We could swear. We'd. call someone a [ __ ] You could say. anything you want. It was crazy. They. never I'll tell you one thing that's. seriously even though I didn't like the. way the contra way my time there ended. I I wish that was handled a little bit. better. But I guess everybody who leaves.

a gig wishes things were handled. differently. They never once [ __ ] with. me about content. I'll say that for. them. They never came to me and goes, "Hey man, we that thing you talked. about, could you not could you back. off?" Even long into where everybody was. getting canceled and in trouble, Sirius. never came and and asked me not to say. something. Um, uh, Jim Mccclure, who ran. the channel, never broke my balls about. jokes we did or a stance we would take. Like, they kind of let that go. Well, they had a crazy situation where they,

you knew that one person was getting. insane amounts of money. Yes. Howard. Stern and everybody else was getting. very little. It was real weird. It was, you know, because it was very open that. Howard was getting all that money, which. obviously he was the reason why. everybody went over there in the first. place. Yeah. He he get it was it was. serious and we were at XM and he was at. serious and that was the giant get was. Howard going over also there's also the. thing that if he leaves the stock. collapses. especially now yeah you know I mean if. if you don't have Howard Stern anymore.

what do you got what do you have that's. not available for free yeah I sold my. serious stock so whatever happens I I. did I was happy it spiked up to like. seven and I [ __ ] dumped Were you. allowed to sell while you were working. there or did you have to wait till you. weren't working there nobody car nobody. asked they didn't Did you use stock or. you bought? No, I bought I bought it I. bought it years before when I thought. they're going to go bankrupt. Um we we. bought a little bit but I was that's. what I told about the lawsuits when I. was getting sued so I didn't buy as much. cuz I was paying for [ __ ] lawyers. Um. but yeah, they tried to cut me like an. unreasonable amount and so we were still.

negotiating and then they just go, "Oh. yeah, we're not going to renew." They. waited till Christmas break and they. we're not going to renew. So I was like, "All right, I guess I get why they did. that." But but it's got to be weird when. you're over there and you know that. Stern is getting hundreds of millions of. dollars and everybody else is like, you. know, they're just pinching pennies with. people. I never minded that and really. didn't care because I only cared about. what I was getting. And when I saw what. they gave certain podcasters that went. over there, I'm like, "Okay, they do. have the money. So if they're choosing.

not to give it to me, Yeah. I have to. just accept that." Like, you know what I. mean? Like I never knew what Opie and. Anthony made. I still to this day don't. know what their salary was. I never. asked great begrudg those guys. I never. gave a [ __ ] like you know they were the. brand Opie Anthony. It was like they. took me in. So I never care what they. got. I never felt entitled to their. money and I never asked what they made. Even when me and Opie did a show I never. said what's he making? Like they gave me. a raise but I didn't I don't look at. money like that like where I have to. know what you're because it's like.

that's not my That's good. That's a. healthy way to look at it. Yeah. So, whatever Howard made, I'm sure some of. it was inflated, but like, oh, he made a. lot of [ __ ] money. He did, man. He. made a lot of [ __ ] money. But, but. again, if he's not there, how are you. selling it? If he's not there, what are. you what are you selling that's not. available for free everywhere? That's. why I was like bummed about the way it. happened. I'm like, cuz we did a a talk. show. Maybe they were just like, ah, we. can put more money into the rest of the. channel if Jim go whatever. I'm glad I'm. doing a podcast. Like, I haven't noticed. any change in my life, which is great.

Uh, cuz I'm on the road. We're making, you know, I'm making money on the road, but it's weird not having it. It's. weird. It's weird not knowing that it's. there. Right. Right. Right. Like, it. hasn't affected anything, but the. knowledge that that income was going to. be there is gone. So, it's a kind of a. weird naked feeling. Does it make you. more motivated to do stuff though to. like to get your own thing going on in. the I'm on the road more now. like I'm. doing extra road work. And the special. was one of those things where I wanted.

to do one anyway, but it mo like I shot. it in November and before we even came. back from break, I had my channel set. up. I had already started doing. episodes. Um I was like, "Fuck this. I'm. not sitting and waiting. It's not going. to take me a year. I'm just going to get. up and if it takes me a year to get. moving, fine. But I'm going to start. now." What is Sam doing these days? He's. doing the show. They gave him the show. Oh, so he still has the show and they. got rid of you? Yes. Whoa. Well, I mean, I kind of saw that coming. I used to. Yeah. I mean, I I almost because they.

had cut me the year before a little bit, but again, I'm not unreasonable. I'm not. a [ __ ] idiot. People take cuts. Oh, they cut your money. Yes. By 10%. But. I'm like, you know what? It's still good. money. My wife had just come to the. States. I'm like, I want to make sure I. have money for lawyers, whatever. And. then I told my manager, they're going to. cut me by this much guaranteed. And they. almost to the dollar offered me what I. predicted. So we pushed back and tried. to negotiate and they acted like they. were negotiating and then the day the. day of Christmas break like we were off. the air for two weeks. I got the call.

like, "Yeah, we're not going to." So. they were just kind of I think keeping. it going until that. But I don't I don't. have any bad I truly don't like they. bought me two apartments. I had a great. life there. I [ __ ] I broadcasted for. 20 years. Like it's time to move on. anyway. Yeah. And I was telling you a. long time ago that you could be doing. better on the internet anyway by your. own. I think you I remember I remember. you talking to me I mean 2017 around. even before then about podcast I wasn't. allowed to podcast because of my uh my. contract they wouldn't allow it and I.

think that was one of the sticking. points with this one I was like I have. to be able to do my own podcast. especially if I'm taking a cut um and. I'll just eat [ __ ] for a while until it. gets where I want it to go. Yeah, you. have to be able to be your own boss in. this day and age. It's just it's not. it's and also the the as big as Sirius. XM was, it's just not that anymore, you. know? It's just not what it used to be. Like if if I didn't have a podcast and. during the Opie and Anthony days when it. was in its height, if they offered me a.

show, I've been like, whoa, okay, that. would have made sense. But now I'd be. like, "What am I what that unless I. wanted to do kind of what Howard's done, just make a ton of money and kind of. like slip away, which is really what I. kind of tried to do with with Spotify. I. was hoping that Spotify was going to. make me like 10% less famous." That was. like the idea behind it. Yeah. I was. like, "Give me money. Give me money. I. want to be more famous. I don't need. that." Just give me the money. But, you. know, if. But nowadays, it's like there's just not.

enough people listening. And I know they. own Pandora now, too. So, they've made a. bunch of deals with podcasters because I. think they're going to try to get people. to listen to Pandora and do it that way. But you're Stitcher. I think they do, too. Stitcher. Yep. I used We used to be. on Stitcher, too. But that's the thing. It's like the internet is just too. There's so many more people that are. listening to all these other platforms. Spotify, YouTube. There's just It's just. too enormous. It's too big to ignore. It. It is. It is. is and it's like I think.

that they kind of they handled. podcasting in a way that terrestrial. radio handled satellite which was ah you. know it's not a big deal and then get. involved with it or somehow embrace it. but a little bit later in the in the. game too late. Yeah. But I mean they. have some big podcasts. I mean like. again I don't think they have call her. daddy now. They do. And when I knew. realized the money they gave her again I. don't begrudge her at all. Like whatever. you make you make and it's got nothing. to do with my salary but I realized they. do have the money. So, if they're. choosing not to, I have to just [ __ ].

accept that. But you got to wonder if. that's a good idea for her. But she's. still on Spotify, though. I don't know. Is she? I don't know. Yeah. Isn't she? She is, right? Yeah. I think she's still. everywhere else, too. Yeah. Which is. makes it a good idea. The thing is, if. they limit your distribution, that's. what makes it a bad idea. Like one of. the new things that we did with this new. deal with Spotify and they were actually. into it was put it everywhere. You know, not just beyond Spotify, but also go. back on YouTube, back on Apple, back.

everywhere, which was made me very. happy. Like it should be everywhere. Yes. You know, because you want people. to know just to stumble on it or to go, I heard this thing about about this. thing today. I want to go look at it. right now. They don't have to sign up. for something, enter the [ __ ] email. Exactly. Give your credit card. Um Yeah. It's kind of silly. And some people just. get accustomed to using certain. platforms. Like for me, forever all I. listen to is Apple podcasts. You know, the podcast app on Apple. It's simple. I'd like download whatever the [ __ ]. shows I wanted to listen to and I would.

get it that way. I don't want to have to. change. I don't want to have to look. around, you know? It's just one of those. things people get accustomed to getting. things in a certain way. It's right. It's there. Yeah. Yeah. It's great to. see too like like uh I don't know if. Schultz I'm sure he does get the credit. but like Dne deserves a lot of credit. because of of the the social media. Oh. yeah. Um and I think Dane history has. kind of forgotten about what like he did. a lot to change the way we promote 100%. And then Schultz that that [ __ ] thing. of just turn your phone this way now.

like holy [ __ ] like it revolutionized. the way comedians put out clips and it's. like I mean well what he did was do he. he capitalized on co in the best. possible way. He came up with a a. different sty. He's so smart. He thought. of a different style of com because. there was a lot of people during co that. were doing like late night talk show. monologues uh on the internet and they. were terrible. Terrible because there. was no audience audience. But what. Schultz did was he made up for the fact.

there wasn't any audience with visuals. and rapid fire punchlines. That's right. And he did it differently than he does. his standup. Like his standup, he'll say. something really funny and let it sit. So it's even funnier like it builds you. know and he'll look at you like what you. know it'll hold the laugh. Yes. Whereas. in this Netflix or in the the you know. it was on Netflix as well but when he. was doing the sideways thing it was just. rapid fire and it he's more than a this. and a that and a that and a this and a.

photograph of the thing and you'd watch. and you go hilarious. Different than. standup. Yes. And everybody was sharing. it. It was a genius approach to a genre. instead of trying to apply standup style. comedy and monologues to, you know, your. Instagram. He did a whole new thing. Yeah. And his standup is funny. He did. something on on jokes that only work in. Hawaii and I was It's in an arena and. he's [ __ ] murdering the way you. murder in a club. But it's like they're. all new jokes just for and it was like. god damn. It's really funny. He does.

that everywhere he goes. He did that in. Abu Dhabi or Dubai. Yeah, in Dubai. He. had jokes only about Dubai, about, you. know, about [ __ ] on hookers. It was. like, "Oh, that's so awesome. It's my. life.". But I was happy to see somebody doing. something really uh creative as opposed. to blinking their way through Chip. Chipper on a [ __ ] TBS show. We do. what we have to to survive. Don't [ __ ]. on Chip. I love Chip. I love Chip, too. I I love the fact that that's your your. closet character when you put the wig on. and the glasses. You understand it's the.

bane of my ex. I can't do anything. without being called a sock cucka. [ __ ] peek a kissa in the in the live. chat today. It's all Chip. Hey, when's. Chip coming back? Chip is better. It's. all People love and hate Chip. I love. Chip. I love Chip. Yeah, it's uh Stamp. is such a [ __ ] weird thing. It is. It. really is. I might do it again. I miss. doing it. Like when Anthony would come. on, it was the like the best. We did a. few live did three live shows with it. and it was [ __ ] amazing. There were. theater shows and the crowds loved it.

It's sold better than I do, which is. absolutely humiliating. I sold tickets. faster as Chip than Jim Norton. Jim. Norton, there's still a giant curtain. Chip [ __ ] sold out. Uh, but I do miss. doing it, but I don't miss getting. guests. Like, I [ __ ] Now I have one. podcast to do. I love doing it, but I. still hate saying, "Hey, could you. film?" Like, I hate Did you do it all. yourself? Is that what you the way you. did it? Reach out to people. Yeah, I had. a my co-host uh my my the co-host I was. using most recently was Zia, and she was. great. and she would do like a lot of.

the behind the-scenes work for me and. she would, you know, uh, help reach out. to people and coordinate, but I. ultimately had to ask. It was like one. of those things if I wanted a comedian. on one time, uh, Nick Depollo came on. and he was sitting across and this was. what Chip would gave us all sailor hats. and we're all wearing sailor hats and I. remember call him Chip. I have to I. can't say me. I I can't I can't face it. It's like Ted Bundy would talk about. himself in the third person. Why? Cuz. he's not proud of it. So I I would we we. had on these sailor hats and I remember.

Nick was talking to me and we were. having fun but it was the way he was. like looking like he was looking at Jim. as he was talking and he didn't see he. was he played along but I was like ah. that's like yeah [ __ ] I just had Nick. stare at me and I knew he was seeing his. friend Jim with a wig on in a wig and. glasses but I do miss it made me laugh. um to do it but people would just be too. annoying about like get this gu, get. that guy. They would complain. It's.

like, oh, I made zero money doing it. And here's why. I made it on YouTube. because I didn't realize that I. shouldn't have had the word [ __ ] in the. theme song. I'm so Jamie Jaster from [ __ ] hate. sang the theme song. And it was Chip has. a [ __ ] but like literally that. automatically [ __ ] you for. monetization, right? And I had no idea. So all of my episodes had [ __ ] in the. first 5 seconds. I never made any money. doing [ __ ] few hundred bucks on a read. here and there, but it was it was a. labor of love. It was one of those. things that you You could bring it back. with a new theme song. I could or I did.

change it at one point. I I changed it. Um I took [ __ ] out. Change it. People. love Chip. Put gosh darn. It was like. some obvious uh that's even better. Some. awful edit that went in. But it's like. when am I going to do it? Where am I. going to do once mine gets up and like. mine's been up for a few months. I love. doing it. We do callers which I like the. live interaction. It's like when you do. radio, it's hard to not feel like. anybody is listening in the moment, you. know? Um, and it takes you in weird. directions. Like people will call up. with legit everyone like some comics. like ah but then as soon as somebody.

goes what do you think about this and. they're talking about wanting to commit. suicide or they're talking about [ __ ]. it becomes interesting because people. like everyone wants to give advice. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. So I like I. like knowing that something alive will. take you into a different direction than. we would have gone in. Yeah. Oh yeah. For sure. Yeah. There's something to. that. Yeah, there's definitely something. to that, but there's that, you know, there's also something. It's like it. becomes very chaotic because people are. calling in just to [ __ ] with you. And. I've surprisingly had very little of. that. We I mean, again, I'm always with.

coming from OA like nothing is too much. at this point because you become so used. to right craziness and people and death. threats and the [ __ ] I still use a. fake name at the seller because I would. get death threats like that. There was a. couple of them that actually concerned. me because people were using their real. names. I'm like, if a guy is threatening. to kill you with his real name attached. to it, like, he's [ __ ] he's a. problem. What was it over? What? There. was one time Anthony had said something. and the guy thought I said it. Um, and. the guy said something about, "I'm going.

to [ __ ] kill you." I don't remember. what it was, but it was it was the tone. he said it. I'm like, "That feels. different than anything anyone's ever. said to me." Plus, again, last time we. talked about the [ __ ] lawyer um who. hadn't committed a murder at that point, but I still knew he was crazy. And I. would get I have a hate mail [ __ ]. file and I used to argue with them. Oh. boy. Back and forth like a dummy. Uh but. people would tell me, "Watch your back. I know where you live. I'm going to. shoot you." And then I would see a real. name signed to it. And I'm like, "Yeah, that guy's mentally ill." A lot of those.

out there. [ __ ] yeah, there are a lot. So I started doing the I at the comedy. seller, I would always use names from. the JFK assassination. Like David Ferry. was appearing. It was never Oswald. Kennedy. I wasn't that on the nose, but. it was him. Was it was you know uh Clay. Shaw. It was just all these weird people. from the [ __ ] from the uh Kennedy. assassination. Ali Wong used to have to. do that at the comedy store. Um because. he was famous, right? Was she a stalker? Yeah, she'd get stalkers. There was this. one crazy guy that kept showing up. But. you know, I guess stalkers for a woman.

are even more creepy. Much more. terrifying for a woman. And it's like. there's got to be a way like in Black. Mirror, there's one thing you they had a. thing where you could block people from. seeing you. And again, it's a futuristic. thing, but the the the the penalty for. stalking should be so [ __ ] severe. because the the way they allow someone. to ruin someone else's life. Yeah. Uh. it's crazy that that they haven't. figured out something where when you're. convicted of stalking, you should be. forced to have something in your phone. or some type of a monitor bracelet that.

alerts the other person. It It drives me. crazy. There's nothing I hate more than. some [ __ ] creep stalker, but I guess. I've dealt with it. So, again, it's very. creepy for women. way more creepy for. women, you know, and they get a lot more. of them. They get a lot a lot of guys. get obsessed. Yeah, because I don't get. st No women I'm not interesting to stalk. because I [ __ ] you. You want to stalk me, just show up and. have a nice tit. I mean, you got me. But. I I did [ __ ] one stalker, which was. great. Turned out to be Oh, no. Yeah, it. was a bad move. Uh and I and I was bad.

in bed. I couldn't keep it up. I was. just It was It was during during the. lawsuit. It was a really bad time for me. and I I kind of felt badly. She thought. I didn't like her but I was just but. anyway for two years it was phone. stalking and it was not scary like it. would be for a woman just annoying but. it becomes a part of your life like you. become like this is with the old. iPhones. So I would always get these I. would leave LA on a red eyee and I would. land and my my iPhone would be filled. with voice messages. Oh boy. About you. know what Jim and just you know what a.

piece of [ __ ] I was and a bad guy. So, like she used to think I was talking to. her on the radio like Oh, she was. schizophrenic. I don't know. Um, we. would talk dirty a lot and I and I and. and you know, and credit where it's due. Um, did good dirty talk. Oh, you have no. idea. The crazy ones are the best. [ __ ]. They anticipate. exactly what you need right before you. get there. Oh, psychotic and erotic. They're real close. It really is because. there's something about the inhibitions.

um being lowered and you know the cuck. talk I always like that not as much now. because again I'm married but I always. enjoyed good cuck talk would always make. me very happy and I get why guys. wouldn't like that but it would make me. [ __ ] crazy. It's so weird what people. like like the the [ __ ] on the chest. thing like influencers get paid to go to. Dubai a lot of money and those guys will. [ __ ] on them. Wait, they [ __ ] on the. influencer. The influence shits on them. They [ __ ] on the influencer. Real? I can.

see that. Yeah. Yeah. Like hot girls hot. girls go over there and they can make. half a million dollars and a guy can. [ __ ] on for a weekend. That's so that's. crazy. Yeah. Like just I guess that. feels probably more than that. I mean, if you're thinking about people that. have insane amounts of money, you know, you're dealing with like oil money. These guys like, you know, we talk about. the richest people in the world. Like. Elon Musk is the richest man in the. world. Well, he's the richest public man. in the world. I mean, I'm not saying. he's not insanely rich. He's worth 200. something billion dollars, but that's.

nothing compared to these royal. families, right? These oil families, they probably have trillions. They. probably have trillions of dollars, but. it's not public. They don't have to. disclose how much money they have. Whereas in America, like wealthy people. that are like on the on the legit and. the up and up, you you know, everybody. knows what your net worth is. Everybody. knows how much you have, but to pay. somebody. See, I thought you meant to. get [ __ ] on, but to [ __ ] on an. influencer, I've seen a few Tik Toks. where I'm like, I'd give her a thousand.

if she let me take a dump on her. She. was annoying. She was annoying. I think. that's what they do. That's great. I. mean, this is People have talked about. it openly. Girls have talked on some of. those weird podcasts. Girls have talked. about how they go over there and, you. know, they make hundreds of thousands of. dollars and, you know, it's only like 20. minutes of their time. They just lay. there. Some guy shits on them. Everybody. cheers. That's Oh, there's a group of. people watching. Bunch of guys. Your. boys are there and you [ __ ] on her. An. influencer cuz you she probably said. something you didn't like. Or you just. want to [ __ ] on a hot girl's tits. That.

I mean that would do nothing for me and. I'm a pervert. But I think it's like a. humiliation thing. They want to. humiliate people and they want to know. that they have so much money that they. can get you to submit to this willingly. Dude, I've seen the humiliation look. every time I [ __ ] someone. I know what that look is. It is a. [ __ ] weird desire to want to [ __ ] on. somebody. It It is because it's so not. sexual. Like it's weirdly punishing or. like the like and again being dirty is.

I'm not saying having the fetish is. wrong cuz I'm pissed on like whatever. I. mean a lot. I've done a lot. I've tried. it and I don't even know what I liked. about it. I I don't know what I liked. about it. Was it because it's naughty. It was intimate and naughty. It was. private. Intimate and private. Intimate. and naughty. Yeah. And I think well. that's you're getting pissed on. Whereas. like if you're having someone lay there. while you [ __ ] on them that is like just. an ultimate expression of the the power. of money. I suppose it is. I just don't.

understand the desire. There's like. there's so many things I would love to. do if people would let me do them for. money but not [ __ ] on them. Like that. would just be so like my shits are. horrendous. Like I'd be embarrassed. And. I know and you want to make sure you get. [ __ ] at the proper time cuz you can't. really time your shits. No, but again, if you have enough money to bring her. over and [ __ ] on her, you have enough. money to keep her on hold. Like, you. know, she's not going to tell you I'm. busy. I'm drinking coffee. I'm having a. cold, bro. I'll be like, I'm smoking. cigarettes, drinking coffee, brewing up. a good one for you. I have not heard. that. I have I know that people get sent.

over there and they [ __ ] I actually. want to go to Dubai. Like, it's the one. of the few places. Beautiful. Have you. been to the Burge? No, I I haven't been. to that, but I've been to Dubai. I I was. in Dubai once because they had the. weigh-ins there for the UFC and it's. like everywhere you look it's like. Rolls-Royce, Ferrari, Lamborghini, like. there the amount of money there was. preposterous and this was quite a long. time ago. This was like 2007. I believe. That's probably before the. Burge was built. Was it was the Burge? I. don't think No, I don't think it was. there. So, what I had seen is just like.

what was there then and just the obscene. amount of wealth. I mean, it's really. like shocking. Yeah. I want to go just. to go out because I'm afraid of heights. So like I want to go into that uh that. that that observation deck on top. The. one that Tom floors is it? I want to say. it's like 120 or something. It's f it's. crazy. Uh it's 3,000 ft. The uh the. tower I think it's the tallest structure. in the world. And there's a few people. who have sat in that like there's you.

see that picture of Tom Cruz who is. batshit crazy. Like he actually jumped. out the window of that thing for real. Do you ever see footage of him training. for that Mission Impossible? He jumped. out the window. He jumped out the window. strapped in. And I've seen footage of. him like taken by people on the. observation deck of Tom Cruz hanging out. on the outside of the Burge tower and. there's a picture of him sitting on the. very very top. It's 3,000 ft and his. feet are just hanging off in a. helicopter is circling. He was the first. guy harnessed or anything? He's probably. harnessed on his back somehow. What is.

this for a Mission Impossible? One of. the Mission Impossibles. But yeah, that's Oh my god. like he's in space. Um, oh my god, look how tall that is. He's running. It's the craziest thing. I've ever seen. He's a [ __ ] maniac. The fact that he's still doing these. stunts and he's 62 years old. Do you see. what he did at the last Mission. Impossible? He jumped in a flaming. parachute, ripped the parachute off, and. then opened up the second parachute. And you know, I mean, there's no backup.

parachute for the second parachute. He's. doing this for a movie. If I met I've. never met Tom Cruz. If I ever imagine, all I want to ask him is how do you get. insurance companies to agree right to. let you do this? Like I can't imagine. him. He was running down the the face of. the T. And some of it was shot in CGI, but that's legit. Like that was real. Yeah. Here it is. Look at this. So he's. he jumps out in a flaming parachute. And this is all planned out. I mean, they douse the parachute with gasoline.

Jumps. They light it on fire. Look at. that. He did 16 times. 16 times. Oh my god. So he has to cut it loose and. then he has to open up his secondary. parachute. Is there You wonder is there. a kill switch that if like like if. you're pushing a clamp and you can't get. the clamp off? No, he's [ __ ] Like if. he can't cut loose, he's [ __ ] And if. his second parachute doesn't work, he's. double [ __ ] Yeah, I heard him say. sort of like he figures out something. crazy he hasn't done and then just goes.

through all the processes of like how do. you learn how to do this? Yeah, he. learned how to fly helicopters for one. of the stunts. So like one of the stunts. where they're they're bombing through. the canyons. He was actually flying the. helicopter. He wanted to make it really. obvious that it was him flying that. helicopter and he and the side of the. I've seen him talk about like being on. the side of the plane that took off when. he was hanging off the plane. But you. wonder like what what is it in you that. like what kind of a rush when you're not. working? What do you do to you know like. [ __ ] Cowboy Serani will fly a plane.

and then cut the engine and fall because. he needs that he's [ __ ] crazy and. he's dopamine. What do you do to match. this in your real life? This is the new. one. The new plane thing. He's done a. couple of different plane ones. This is. just one of them. Oh. Oh, you see the. string there. Yeah. Yeah. But they edit. all that in the movie, right? What if. the string breaks? Yeah. What if the. string breaks? That's right. You can. only have so much faith, right? In Also, what if he gets hit by a bird right here. and gets KO'ed? Ah. or falls back and. bangs his head on the side of the Well, this is a thing that's only for these. Mission Impossible movies. But, by the.

way, he's been doing these Mission. Impossible movies forever. I was. listening to an EPMD song the other day. and in the thing it's like Mission. Impossible, not Tom Cruz. Like, they. were joking around about Tom Cruz being. in Mission Impossible in an EPMD song. from like what year was that? Oh, EPM, you know, EPMD the rappers. 97. 97. Do I. not know that? That was his first. Mission Impossible movie. I mean, that's. when the Lyric came out. That's the. song's called The Joint. That's the. where it's in, I guess. What What year.

was the first Tom Cruz Mission. Impossible movie at the same time? Maybe. even 96, 95 if they were writing about. Wow. That's wild. That is wild. So, he's. been basically doing Mission Impossible. for 30 years. He's 62 now. Yeah. Crazy. But he doesn't do that in the other. movies he does. Well, some of them. Does. he Does he do crazy stunts in all of his. movies? What about that? You mean the. one the live, die, repeat? That's Yeah. Was he doing stunts in those? Not I mean. I don't know exactly how many of them he.

did, but he did the uh the thing I was. trying to think of too. Yeah. And he. also broke his ankle. He was jumping. from one building to another and. destroyed his ankle. He destroyed but he. actually [ __ ] limped and tried to. finish the shot. Like what a [ __ ]. Finished the shot. Yeah. It's It's. insane. You see his ankle collapse when. he hits the wall. Yeah. He's a [ __ ]. nut, man. Like a real nut. It's like. when you look You ever watch old Buster. Katon footage? Oh yeah. the crazy [ __ ]. that he would do. The train or the. building. How many Mission Impossible. movies are there? I think there's 11. Is.

there 11? I thought it was like seven or. eight. Seven. Yeah, seven. Yeah. So, and. it all started in 96. Is that what you. said? Mhm. Jesus Christ. That guy's been. in some [ __ ] banger movies. Scientology works for some people. It's. It's It's interesting that he wants to. do all of his own stuff. The firm I just. rewatched. It's funny. I hated the music. in the firm so much it took me out of. it. But that's a pretty that's a great. film. Gene Hackman was great in that. Oh. yeah. Yeah. What a shame he died, man. I. He's one guy I never met that I wanted. to meet. Gene. Yeah, I would have liked.

to have met him, too. Oh, is he [ __ ]. He died bad, though. He did, but he died. kind of the way you want to die, just. alone and home. And well, died. His wife. died first, they'd think. Yes. And he he. had dementia, I think. Yeah. So, I don't. even know if he knew she was dead. They. say he might have just been wandering. Maybe he just wandered around hungry. Oh. boy. I know. Doesn't matter who you are. O. Yeah. When when your body stops. working, it doesn't matter how many. [ __ ] people love you. It's over. Brando was like that. Like I I I I love.

because he was just so difficult. Like. you got to love a guy who's so good at. something that people tolerated. He was. such a nut. He bought an island and. moved there. I just he would never. acknowledge being a good actor. Like you. I always interview with Connie Chong and. she's like, "You're a great actor." And. his dog is there. He goes, "He's a. better actor. He acts like he loves me. cuz he wants food. I'm like, what a what. a great [ __ ] what a great what a But. he meant it. Like you knew he wasn't. like some [ __ ] douchy poser. Like he. was really this guy. Well, that's why he. was so good. But he was also good before. anybody was good. He was the first actor.

that was like acting like a real person. Yes. In movies. Whereas like every other. actor was like, "Hey, stay away from my. girl." See, I can't watch old stuff. And. look, I'll acknowledge I stink. I know I. stink. So, I can't judge other people's. I'm not going to judge James Kagny or. [ __ ] Humphrey. Kagny is a good. example. But you watch them and you're. like, they were so like Victor mature. Tommy, why don't you cut it out, Tommy? Yeah. And then you see Brando, I can't. watch the old stuff. It's just it's.

theater acting or something, right? He. was the first guy that figured out how. to be real in a film. And James Dean did. it as well. And then a bunch of other. people. Now, you know, there's a lot of. people that do it, but nobody had. figured it out. But again, it goes back. to that thing where this was a. completely new medium, right? Like it. didn't really exist before him. You. know, he was like one of the very first. movie stars that figured out how to do. it correctly, but there weren't a lot of. wasn't a long history of movie stars. It.

was a fairly new thing. Yes. And I've. seen footage of his uh his screen test. for Street Crime Named Desire and like. you Stanley walks into the kitchen and. he's just talking and he's talking to. Stella. Not it might have been Stella. and he's just moving and grabbing stuff. and you're watching him and you're like. I would never have the confidence in to. to just touch and Oh, I want to see that. behave. Can you find that screen test. from Street Car Named Desire? Is that it. right there? Hey, let's listen. Oh, we. got headphones again, Jim. Yes. Will you. do that for me?

And this is even different than what I. was think. The one I think it was in the. kitchen. Maybe it's part of the same one. Here. he's just putting a cigarette out in a. [ __ ] bottle. No, hold on. Go back to. that. Yeah. Action. Watch out. The. plaster crack. All right, you cut out.

the cat in there. Well, you can't hear. us. Well, you can hear me. I told you to. hush up. Cut it. Print it. That's all. Oh, so this is actually real footage. though. Yeah. And this is different than. the one. But it's it's interesting to. see. These are out takes action.

You can hear the camera. Yeah. But even the way she's looking at him. looks old school compared to what he's. doing. Right. She's looking at him in a very strange. way that doesn't feel like Right. It. doesn't feel real. It feels like she. knows she's in a movie. Yeah. You're a.

good-looking guy back then, too. Oh, he. was a [ __ ] what a [ __ ] machine. He. [ __ ] them all, too. And then he just. he didn't like the fact that he's. good-looking, so he became a blimp. Just. ate ice cream. How do you not love that. guy? He got so big during Apocalypse. Now, they had a film in the shadows. And. he wouldn't acknowledge that cuz they. were trying to make it like Curts had. gotten fat and like was living the life. of and he wouldn't do it. Yeah. Just sat. there in the shadows. Yeah. What a. [ __ ] nut. But, you know, again, it's. just there wasn't a lot of people like.

that. I mean I mean how do you not go. crazy? He's the only guy and I can't. watch Shakespeare. I mean I know he is. the greatest. I just can't watch him. And I watched him doing I think he. played Mark Anthony or Julius Caesar and. watching him do Shakespeare it like you. felt like he's really saying these like. you know what I mean? It always feels so. British you know what the window break. It just doesn't feel connected to the. person. And I watched him I'm like this. is like a real guy actually saying this. Yeah. So, he's the only person I've ever. been to watch do Shakespeare. Yeah.

There's an art. There's a real art to. acting when it's just done badly so. often that we hate most actors. Yeah. And it's hard to do. And I I again I I. there's very few things I give my credit. self credit for, but I do give myself. credit for recognizing my limitations. Yeah. In that area. Um it's been easy to. recognize and people have pointed it. out, but I understand it. It's also not. an area that you really concentrated on, nor were you drawn to it. You're right. So, when you're doing it, you're like, "How am I doing this?" It's like if you. get Tom Hanks to do standup and when he. did Punchline, it was [ __ ] terrible.

Why? Because he wasn't really doing. standup. You know, he's an actor, but if. you wanted to be an actor, if that was. your thing, you'd probably be great at. it. Do you know who was I saw they were. shooting some of the uh Will Arnett? I. think Bradley Cooper just directed a. movie at the comedy seller. Is that him. doing Shakespeare? 29 years old here. 29. He's 29. 53. The noble Brutus hath told you Caesar. was ambitious. If it was so, it was a grievous fault.

And grievously have Caesar answered it. Here on the leave of Brutus and the. rest, for Brutus is an honorable man. So. are they all all honorable men. Come I. to speak in Caesar's funeral. He was my friend, faithful and just to. me. But Brutus says he was ambitious, and. Brutus is an honorable man. He hath brought many captives home to. Rome, whose ransoms did the general. coppers spill. Did this and Caesar seem.

ambitious? When did the poor have cried? Caesar. hath wept. Ambition should be made of sterner. stuff. Yet Brutus says he was ambitious. And Brutus is an honorable man. You all did see that on the loop cali. thrice presented him a kingly crown. which he did thrice refuse. Was this ambition? Yet Brutus says he was ambitious and.

sure he is an honorable man. I still. don't know what the [ __ ] he's talking. about. Yeah, I don't know either, but I. believe in him. It's powerful. He's. locked in. He's locked in, man. And he's. he's really He understands what he's. saying. Yeah. He understands the words. He's He's living the words. It's in his. head. He believes it when he's saying. it. And that's the that's like the. Daniel D. Lewis thing. Like when he's. playing that crazy guy and There Will Be. Blood. Oh, he believes it. I drank your. milk. Like it's real. Well, when he's. in, he's locked in. Craziest part of.

that movie is when he's sitting there. with the kid and he's petting the boy's. head at one point. Supposed to be his. son. Yeah. And I'm like, as an actor to. touch a kid, like even though you're. acting, he was petting this boy like the. way you would pet your son. like like it. was like he's so comfortable and so in. this that you really believe this is his. son. It was that was that stuck out for. me like the level of comfort you need on. a set to do that cuz I've been on a set. with a kid there everybody's like make. sure you don't curse make and this guy.

didn't give a [ __ ] He just picks the. kid up and starts petting his head. Well, he's got to be that guy. And you. know he would be he's a method guy so. he'd be that guy for months. Have you. met him? No. No, I haven't either. Gary. man I like a lot. I which is not exactly. a stretch. Gary Alman, I think, is one. of the most uh versatile. Have you seen. Slow Horses? No. It's an Apple show. It's really good. It's a spy show. He. plays a spy. Oldman or Daniel? Oldman. It's a new show. Oh, no. It's really. good. I haven't watched anything on. Apple. Like I I I tried to watch the.

morning show, but I didn't love it. Did. you see Severance? Severance is great. Season one I loved. Yeah, season two got. a little weird. It got it almost got a. little weird like the way Lost did where. they were doing things to serve the kind. of show that they were but I didn't I'm. like what does this mean? Like this is. just crazy and weird but they're just. doing it like to be again I I watched it. and I probably will watch season 3. Uh. but season one I liked more. Yeah, season one was better. I think there's.

some shows like that where they the. concept is so out there it really has. like a finite amount of time where. you're allowed to like maintain that. Yes. And then it just becomes we have to. get to season again. Like I said, Lost, Lost. Yeah, Lost is the best example. because first season it was [ __ ]. great. It was. And the backstory telling. like I I look at the writing of that and. again it was TV. They only had a certain. amount of uh leeway they could do. I. their backstory stuff was great. The. writing on you know John Lock and on on. Kate and all these people these the way. they would tie in their backstories I.

thought was brilliant but then the way. they ended I was like [ __ ] You know. everyone complained about it but I'm. like they missed what they should have. You know what's a great [ __ ] story or. a great show rather? Mobland. Have you. seen Mob Land on Paramount? Who is re. somebody? It was either Colin or Bobby. was recommending Mob Land. It's [ __ ]. great. Is it? It's [ __ ] great. It's a. Guy Richie show. It's [ __ ] great. Tom. Hardy. Ah, Pierce Pice Bronson plays the. old mobster. He's [ __ ] amazing in it.

You know, you think of Piers Broen, you. think like a kind of a campy James Bond. Not in this [ __ ] movie. Really? He. plays a maniac. Like a stone cold. maniac. And it's great. Did you see. footage of Tom Hardy? I just saw footage. of him like uh submitting someone. Oh. yeah, he's good. Black belt, right? No, no, no, he's not a black belt. I think. he might be a purple belt. Is he a. purple belt or is he a blue belt? He. competes though. I know. I just saw. footage of him. But he's all [ __ ] up. now. His neck's [ __ ] up. His knees are. [ __ ] up. Purple belt. Purple belt. He's legit, man. Yeah, he's legit. I've. I've watched him compete. Yeah. I was.

like, "Okay." And like Zuckerberg, Zuckerberg's legit. He's real. He gets. in tournaments. He He's very competitive. guy. For a guy who's worth $200 billion, it's kind of crazy to enter into a local. jiu-jitsu match and, you know, risk. getting spiked on your head by a. plumber. You know, some [ __ ] some plumber who's also a. blue belt [ __ ] you know, suplexes. you on your skull and he recognizes you. and his [ __ ] account just got banned. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's been.

posting. queueing on memes and then he sees you. and he think it's destiny and by the way. he wear a he wore a mask up until the. time he's about to compete so they don't. know they're going to compete with. Zuckerberg until he's in there with them. which is really a mind it's kind of a. huge disadvantage to the opponent you. like what especially if you've never. been around a famous person before and. now all a sudden you have and you're. also an amateur cuz he's an amateur yeah. so you're all like what you're probably. like blown away maybe the first time. you've ever competed too and you're.

competing against Zuckerberg. It it's a but he's he's I think he's a. blue belt too, right? I believe so. Let's What belt is Zuckerberg? Zuckerberg brings in legit people. though. Like he trains with very very. legit people. Vulcanowski I know is. training with him. I know he's around. Alexender. Yeah. Pereira. Um yeah, he. brings in like Dave Camaro who's a top. level Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt. He. brings him him. Uh belt. Yeah. Yeah. He's legit, man. He blew his knee. Yep. Tore his ACL. He uh wind up getting pat.

I tried to talk him out of the type of. surgery that he got. He got the. difficult surgery which is a patella. tendon graft. I've had both my ACL's. reconstructed and my left one was a. patella tendon graft. My right one was a. cadaavver and the cadaavver was so much. easier to recover from. And I told him. I'm like dude get the cadaavver trust. me. And his doctor wanted to do the. patella tendon. He w up doing that. It's. a long rehab with the patella tendon. Um, but you know, the fact that he blew. his knee apart and still kept training. is pretty impressive as well. Yeah. And.

I'm in that place too, like where I have. inflam. I'm just trying to get healthy. Like, uh, I've been seeing some guy. I. don't know if I need surgery, but I'm. getting MRIs, getting insurance to. approve MRIs. It's a [ __ ] nightmare. But I want to get my my ankle, my hip, my knee. I'm all [ __ ] up. What's. wrong? I've been [ __ ] up for years. I've had like my leg goes numb. My right. leg was going numb in my thigh. Um, did. you ever get your back looked at? I I. did. I have to get again. I'm trying to. get approval for the MRI for that, but. they I twisted my ankle very badly a few. times. Uhhuh. Um, how long are you in. town for? I'm supposed to call them.

tomorrow. Okay. What time tomorrow? When's your flight? First thing. First. flight. Oh. Um, I might be able to get. you into Ways to Well this afternoon. Ways to Well is the local stem cell. clinic. They'll they'll shoot you shoot. you up with stem cells. That'll [ __ ]. help everything, man. Does it help? Oh, tremendously. Tremendously. Where do. they shoot them? Tremendously. right. into the injury. Yeah, I got back. I got. I'm a [ __ ] But I but I feel better. now. I've been doing these stretches. like the the guy that my my physical.

therapist recommended and uh I'm I'm. going to someone who's he gave me some. anti-inflammatory pills for a week and I. feel a tremendous difference. Be careful. with those. What do they do? Well, it. depends on what you're taking. If you're. taking a non-steroidal. anti-inflammatory, they're terrible for. your gut your gut biome. It destroys. your gut biome. It's it could be really. bad. it can actually make inflammation. Like my friend Cam Haynes, he was taking. 800 milligrams of ibuprofen every day. And I talked to him about it. I go, "What you doing? What?" And then I sent. him some stuff that Ronda Patrick had.

put out about it. I'm like, "Dude, get. off of that." He got off of it. All of. his pain went away. The inflammation was. being caused by the fact that he was. taking so much ibuprofen. It was ruining. his gut biome. So, it was creating. inflammation. So, to combat that. inflammation, he was taking ibuprofen. And he thought the only way he was going. to be able to run the miles that he was. running was to constantly chew on. ibuprofen. So he got off of it entirely. All the pain went away. Totally. counterintuitive. Yeah. I've only been. on these. He said one week is all. He. goes, I I only want you to take them for.

I don't remember. But he goes, I just. want to see if it He's trying to see. like how severe the injuries. I want to. see if this does help at all. But he. goes, take them for he gave them to me. for a month. He goes, don't take them. for more than a week. So I like the fact. that he's showing restraint. He's like, well, the thing is doctors have a. limited amount of tools. If you want to. prescribe medication to somebody, you. know, whatever the you know what. whatever the the common practices is. what that doctor has to adhere to. They. can't step out of line. And the reality.

is a lot of that stuff has side effects, but there's natural ways that you could. deal with inflammation like curcumin, turmeric, there's a lot of different, you know, that stuff that helps a lot. That's legit and it's not bad for you. But a lot of inflammation comes from. diet. A lot of it. A big factor. Like I. remember I talked to this lady who was a. physical therapist and I had a neck. issue. And she was like, "You'd kind of. be amazed if you cut out all the. inflammatory foods of your diet how much. it would affect it." I'm like, "Really?".

She's like, "Yeah, I mean, you probably. do have a neck injury, but I guarantee. it's exacerbated by the foods you're. eating." She said, "Cut out bread, cut. out sugar, and and see see if it has an. effect." You know, I've tried to cuz I. fattened up and I know it. like I I put. weight on and the re again for me it was. a dopamine thing. I'm not doing the. things I used to do, right? So you need. something to do that just like give me a. sandwich something. You know what am I. going to do on the road? I'll have a. pretzel, right? That's my bane of my. existence. A [ __ ] pretzel. Like it. really is. It's not like I'm eating. pizza. I'm not eating cake. All that.

[ __ ] is terrible. Sourdough pretzels. I. All that [ __ ] Our bread is [ __ ] And. our bread is so [ __ ] if you go and I'm. I'm sure you've been overseas. You go go. eat bread in Italy. You don't feel bad. at all. No, you're not. It's not as bad. We're [ __ ] poison. I'll I'll play. this thing because uh Brian Simpson sent. me this and it's very good. Hold on. Let. me think here. Let me see. Show you. right here. Um but it's all about bread. Brian Simpson sent me this and he's. like, I think I'm done with bread. And I. was like, oh my god. Like this is kind.

of crazy. Um do I need my glasses? No, no, no. I'll put it up on the screen. I'm going to find it though because he. sent it to me. Here it is. Uh copy. to Jamie. Here it is. It won't matter if there's World War II, but if there's not World War II, probably stay away from bread. American. bread. You mean eat sourdough bread? Sourdough bread is [ __ ] great for.

you. But play this from the beginning so. we could. This guy's going to explain what's wrong. with American bread. explain to me why I. can eat bread in Spain and in I can in. Greece, Italy, no problem. Why I was glut gluten-free. in 15 years I've been gluten-free in uh. Canada, America. can't eat it. That's because in America, what we call bread can't even be. considered food in parts of Europe. See,

here in America, it's not so much the. gluten as what we've done to the grain. About 200 years ago, we started. stripping the brain and germ or the. fiber and nutrients to make flour shelf. stable, also nutritionally dead. Because. the nutrients were gone, we enriched it. with folic acid, which a large majority. of the population can't even metabolize. Therefore, many people experience. fatigue, anxiety, hyperactivity, and. inflammation. But then the bread wasn't. white enough, so they bleached it with. chlorine gas, and the bread didn't rise. enough. So, they added a carcinogen. called potassium bromate, which is. banned in several countries like Europe, the UK, and even China. Then, we wanted.

to ramp up production. And so he started. using glyphosate to dry out the wheat. before harvest, causing endocrine. disruption and damaging your gut. So now. you're bloated, brain fog, tired, and. blamed gluten. But gluten is just the. scapegoat. The real issue is. ultrarocessed, chemically altered, bleached, bromated, fake vitamin filled. weed soaked in glyphosate. This isn't. bread. This is who is that dude? What's. his name? Danny Dur. Uh, click on click on his so we could. give that guy some props. Dennis uh. Echelberger. Echo. Echelar. Danny Denny.

uh dn n y d- u r e on uh Twitter and. Instagram. Do you know I will never as. I'm watching him do that I will never be. able to do anything into camera as well. as he just described how shitty Brett is. like I was watching him doing like he's. getting all the words proper and he's. [ __ ] he's giving the information he's. not blinking he's not twitch he's just. he's not annoying he's not annoying yeah. he's just giving it to you perfect. delivery but that should be something. that everybody should see when I know. that when I cut that stuff out of my.

diet it makes a giant difference also I. should say Joe D Rosa who has this. amazing sub shop in New York and he's. going to open up one out here in Austin. Oh, nice. Uh Joey Roses. Fantastic sub. shop. Their wheat is all flown from. Italy. It's all like natural wheat. Yeah. And so their bread doesn't [ __ ]. with you and they they make it fresh. every day and they throw it out at the. end of the day. You never have day old. bread. It's always fresh and they bake.

it there. So it's like when he's getting. bread for his sandwiches, it's the kind. of bread that you get in Europe. Do you. know? I think I I have to think you're. right because there was one time we had. D Ro on the show. It was in the morning. show and he didn't bring us any. sandwiches. I'm like, "Wait, where's the. [ __ ] sandwiches, Joe? How about a. sandwich?" He couldn't he that's what he. said and I was like, "Fuck him." Cuz. then he did chip and he brought in. sandwiches, but we taped in the. afternoon and I'm like, he was telling. the truth was telling the truth about. his bread. Yeah. When they they had a. popup out here at South by Southwest and. he brought over sandwiches. They were.

fantastic. They're very good. Unbelievably good. I that is my number. one my if I have a vice it is Italian. food. My my my big vice is s Italian. sandwiches, Italian subs, pasta, lasagna. That that stuff gets me. I. [ __ ] love it. But you you have to get. it from a place that's using like. heirloom wheat. And you can find places. there's a lot of great restaurants in. New York. There's great restaurants in. LA that use heirloom wheat. And you'll. eat their pasta and you don't feel bad.

Most of the bread that you're getting in. America is like what that guy described. and that's why you feel like [ __ ] when. you eat it. Yeah, I feel like [ __ ] most. most of the time when I'm especially. like just always tired. I finally got I. whatever it's the apnea. It's a [ __ ]. you know an old man complaining. I just. I just I can't breathe when I sleep. It. sucks. Have you tried a carnivore diet? You ever tried that? No. And again I. know that my fear of eating too much. meat is probably unfounded. Um, but I. No, I've I've done Whole 30, which.

actually I [ __ ] What's your fear? What's the fear? Just like because No, I. Does cancer feed on meat? No. Like like. that's what I was always afraid of. No, cancer feeds on sugar. Okay. Yeah. That's the really the the number one. thing that cancer do oncologists will. tell you um when they if they're trying. to adjust your diet. Some don't and it's. very infuriating. I've had family. members that have cancer and their. doctor tells them you're going to go. through chemotherapy, eat whatever you. want. I'm like, "Oh my god, don't eat. whatever you want." Like part of what is. wrong with you is your diet. It's a.

giant part of your overall metabolic. health, but a lot of oncologists now. will try to get people on a ketogenic. diet because it gets your body to burn. fat instead of burning sugar and then it. starves the cancer. They're also they'll. try to get you to do um some some. fasting like intermittent fasting like. have a a window of feeding where you. fast for 16 hours and then eat for eight. or you can only eat during eight. The. keto diet I never did it but this is.

what a delusional idiot I am. When I was. in Montreal during the pandemic I I. joined Costco and I would go and eat. keto chocolates and I somehow convinced. myself that I was like oh it's keto but. I wasn't doing the rest of the [ __ ]. diet. But they have some actually good. [ __ ] you can eat if you're on the keto. diet. I guess you're doing it right. But. I would go there and buy all these. delicious like keto chocolate clusters. So yeah, that one I heard it gives you. bad breath keto. That was what I' I've. heard. Again, I just I don't remember. where I heard it, but they were like. there's something about ketosis [ __ ].

your breath up. I bet it does. Yeah, I. bet it does. But just brush your [ __ ]. teeth and have a mint. Well, is it. coming from the gut though? Yeah, it. probably is. It's probably ketones. Ketones smell terrible. Have you ever. taken exogenous ketones? I' I've never. even I've heard of ketones. What's an. exogenous ketone? You can take exogenous. ketones. It's ketones that you drink and. it puts your body into an instant state. of ketosis where your body instantly. starts to burn fat. It actually is. really good mentally. Um I like I take. exogenous ketones sometimes when I have. to perform, where I have to do.

something. So I've taken them before. UFC's too. UFC's are like the big mind. [ __ ] for me because it's six hours of. thinking. Yes. And I have to think about. previous fights. I have to like predict. techniques. I have to see what's going. on. And then like we're going to when it. goes to the ground, it's kind of like my. job is to explain particular submissions. when it goes to the ground. Especially. in the early days before I did it with. DC cuz I was, you know, the only like. when it was me and Goldberg. Goldberg's. not really a martial artist. So it was. just me. So, I would have to go like.

explain why someone's in trouble and. what's going to happen to someone who's. doesn't understand like a a triangle or. something like that when someone goes to. the ground and you need brain fuel and. so uh ketones help a lot. Another thing. is like I eat these gum these are. gummies now alpha brain gummies but I. always take some type of neutropic. neurogum or there's neurogum has mints. too. I'll take these mints like if you. see me at the UFC I'll have those. I. take these little uh nicotine um.

pouches. What are they called? Uh. anything pins? Are they What's What are. they called? Uh there's a word for. those. Little nicotine. I don't know. Pouches. Zen. That's what I'm thinking. of. Yeah, these are different. These are. from a company called Lucy. These are. called breakers. Are those Do those have. THC in them? No. No, no, no. It's just. nicotine. This is all just nicotine. I. mean those the uh No, these are. nicotine. No, no. The gummies are just. neutropics. Neutropics are um like. theanine. Um there's like a little bit. of caffeine in these and they like one.

of the things we did with On It, we we. made uh this thing called Alphabrain, which was there's a bunch of different. neutropics out there and a bunch of like. um um acetylcholine, a bunch of. different things that have shown to have. an effect on your memory. And so we put. together a a group of these that would. all work synergistically. And then we. did two double blind placeboc controlled. trials at Boston Center for Memory and. it showed efficacy. It showed that it it.

helped incre increase verbal memory. which is like your ability to form. sentences and recall the word the. correct words to use reaction time uh. alpha state and so it's like it does. work and it's not just on it because I'm. connected to it like I have no. connection at all to neurogum or. neuromints but but it works and I tell. people about it. There's another company. called True Brain that's really good. There's another company called Neuro1. That was the first one that I ever. tried. That's a That's Bill Romanowski, the football player. Oh, yeah. He.

developed that because he was have. memory problems after getting [ __ ]. hit in the head for all those years. playing football. Didn't uh I as far as. I've ever gone. What was that pill you. It's not echynatia. There was one pill. you were taking that was supposed to be. good for memory. It was like one of. those things you get on the [ __ ]. shelf in the vitamin store. Um and I. don't remember what it was, but I used. to take that, but I didn't see an E. H. I was taking it or no me I do it to. collective you people would take I don't. know but there's a bunch of those things. they're real like neutropics it's a real. thing and a lot of people call it snake.

oil and I understand I understand that. you'd be very suspicious but there's a. the reality and this is one of the. reasons why you know like I have a. connection obviously to on it we founded. the company together but I don't have. any connection to neurobrain or neuro1. take them they work there's real. legitimate solutions that help your. brain function and they don't seem to. carry any side effects. Some people if. they take high doses of some of them get. headaches. Uh I think that's probably. just like some people react very badly.

to caffeine. Some people re you know. it's like everybody has their own. different biological stuff. But try it. And the gum is a great one. Neurog gum. is great because it's a delicious gum. It tastes good and it really works, man. I take it all the time. It helps your. brain a little bit. Oh yeah. I take it. before I go on stage. I chew neurogum. before I go on stage. It's very legit. Do you know what I wanted to take? Cuz. Jamie's got a big bag of it right there. And again, we're not connected to them. This is just this is just stuff that. works. I wanted to take because flying. became such a again a fear for me again.

like in this phase of my life, I don't. [ __ ] need that. So I talked to. Whitney and she had talked about beta. blockers. I didn't take them, but I got. I like Do they help at all to like But I. have a low heartbeat anyway, so I don't. know if it's gonna [ __ ] me up to take a. beta blocker, but beta blockers stop you. from getting anxious. They stop. adrenaline. They still they a lot of. people they get busted using them and. like archery competitions allow they. they ban them. Sure. Because, you know, like you're like in the Olympics and. you're just trying to hit that bullseye. every time. Like any kind of nerves or.

jitters is going to [ __ ] with you. Um, but you know, the problem is it's going. to be something that you get you get. addicted to or you maybe not even. physically addicted, but you you know, you become dependent upon. That's what I. don't want. And I think I've asked they. said they weren't, but I I for flying. it's it's something I like I literally. have to fight to do. Um, yeah, I'm. getting a little bit better, but like I. have anxiety, dude. I'm a [ __ ] I'm a. grown-up. I have to sit by the window. and look at the wing and I I'm really. hatable on a plane. [ __ ] 6:00 in the.

morning. Everybody's trying to sleep and. I get my [ __ ] fat face pressed up. against the window staring like I'm. eight. So I I'm trying to get out of there. Well, there's there there are things. You know what's another thing that's. really good for your cognitive function. that a lot of people aren't aware of is. creatine. And creatine is really good. particularly if you are sleepd deprived. Like there's a study that they did that. showed that if you take I think it's 20. milligrams of creatine, it has a a.

really positive effect on your ability. to maintain normal cognitive function. while you're sleep deprived. Really? Yeah. It's also very good for women. Creatine is especially good supplement. for women to take for some strange. reason. But it's um you know it's a. muscle building supplement. It's like. really good for helping you um gain. muscle mass and and strength if you were. weight training. That was what it was. initially used for, but now they're. realizing there's a lot of cognitive. benefits creatine as well. Yeah, I don't.

take any of that stuff and I probably. should at this point. I take creatine. every day. I take nothing other than. just my like my the little thing for my. heart and you know, you don't take. vitamins? No. Oh god. I know. I probably. should. I take everything. I take B. I. do take B and I take one other one. You. should take D for sure. or you live in. New York City, you know, you're probably. not getting enough sun. No, definitely. Yeah. D is huge because D is a hormone. D is actually a hormone. Uh and it's a. hormone that your body produces when you. get into the sun. The best way to get. vitamin D for sure is to be in the sun.

But if you're not in the sun enough, um, one of one of my friends who's a doctor. was in New York City when he was doing. his his uh, residency and he said they. would do tests on people in New York. City and they found that they had. undetectable levels of vitamin D in the. winter. And he was like, you know, this. is has a huge effect on your immune. system. It's the reason why people get. like everyone's, oh, it's flu season. No, it's lack of vitamin D season is. what it is. The flu doesn't thrive in. the winter. The flu exists in the winter.

because people have a low immune system. in the winter and then they start. catching it and giving it to other. people. But it's really a function of. your immune system not working properly. So you need D and you should take D with. K2 uh vitamin K2 and magnesium. They all. work synergistically together. I'll. remember like hard I will text you and. ask you the same question like what are. those things? Because text me I'll I'll. tell you. But you should take that but. you should also take B. You should take. B12. You should take C. C is huge. Uh.

you can't take enough of it or you can't. take too much of it. C is great. I could. take liposomaal C. It's really good for. you. Yeah. You know, because you know. how it is. You get older, man, you start. thinking like, h these things are. starting to affect me now a little bit. Not terrible. I'm still in pretty good. health, but you start to panic and start. to think, how old are you now? 56. I'm. 57. I'm almost 58. Um and my body works. great. And it's really because of that. It's just has a huge effect. I don't. skip days and when I do I feel it, you.

know, but I try not to and I have a. whole cabinet filled with supplements. that I take. I, you know, I take a lot. of vitamins. My buddies never work. great, though. So, it's not like I don't. see any real drop off. Well, that's the. problem. You know, if you're working out. and you're doing all these different. things and you want your body to. function better, just force yourself to. do it. Get your wife to like make you. little packets. It's real simple. You. know, just lay all all the stuff. I need. two of these, three of these, one of. those. We put it all in a package. This. is methyl folate. Put that in there. This is and all that stuff has a giant.

effect on your health. It is you want to. you want your body to function. optimally. And when I noticed the. difference is when I eat poorly, when I. don't get enough sleep, and when I don't. take supplements. I get that. I quit. drinking like three months ago. Little. more than little more than three months. ago now. Nothing. You're not drinking at. all. I haven't drank anything in three. months. I feel great. Was it hard? No, it was super easy. It was really easy. You were ready? Yeah, it was like I just. there was too many days where it's kind. of hard when you own a club and you're.

there a lot and you know you're having. drinks with friends and you want a. drink. Yeah, I'll have a drink. And then. the next day I'd be at the gym. I'm like. feel like [ __ ] And I'd be drinking all. this water and taking all these. electrolytes and getting a sauna and the. cold plunge just trying to get back to. normal. Yes. I'm like, why am I doing. that? Well, in the three months of no. drinking, I have not had one bad day. I. have not had one day where I felt like. [ __ ] And it just confirmed what I. thought. I was poisoning myself. Poisoning myself with fun. I was having.

a good time. Yeah. I was, you know, it. wasn't terrible. I wasn't an alcoholic. I wasn't drinking and driving or. anything stupid, but it was a couple of. drinks, a few nights a week. Maybe I'd. go out with my wife on date night, have. a couple glasses of wine. It was just at. the end of the week, it's like you're. drinking eight drinks. And that's just. not good. It's just not good for you. I. can't imagine drinking and doing comedy. Like I again I quit before I started and. I see guys who are like I can't cuz I.

was not a fun drunk at all. I was a. [ __ ] crier. I was the [ __ ] worst. No one liked me. You [ __ ] piece of. [ __ ]. So I I would But you were like 19. 18. I. was 18. Yeah. You're not even supposed. to be drinking back then. I know. And. people are like it's oh he was too. young. He's thinking but it's like I. knew it again now. shimmy. Uh people. would love but they wouldn't like me. I. was a cutter. I mean, who the [ __ ] wants. to a 56-year-old cutter? I mean, how. awful is that? That's awful. So, I was. It's the best thing I did because I I.

was I was not a fun guy to be around. Some guys are fun. Like some like when. Anthony drinks, he's uh you know, at. times I wish his [ __ ] Twitter fingers. were broken. Uh but I wish he would lock. his [ __ ] phone, but he is a funny. like he's not an uh usually an angry. drunk, right? It's functional. He's a. functional guy. I was never functional. I was vomit. I was the phone. I should. call the FBI. I [ __ ] you know, I. used to call bomb threats in my high. school. I was [ __ ] crazy, man. Oh. boy. I called uh I can say it now. I.

mean, I called, let's say, a threat into. the White House, but I was I was 13. I. was 13. 13. So crazy. What a crazy thing. to do. The Kulux Clan. I called the. [ __ ] cuz I was like little lib Jimmy. and I read that there was a clan book I. read and the guy was like a preacher for. the Kulux Clan. So I called him. I. looked his number up on 411 back then. It was in the early 80s. Wow. And uh I. got his name and I called him. I was you. [ __ ] racist. And he actually talked. to me and he was like, "No, I got out of. the clan. I'm not in that anymore." And. we actually had a conver He actually.

engaged me um for about 20 minutes. I. had a a conversation with with some. clan. You were a kid. I was 14 years. old, 15 years old. Wow. Mid again. That's I remember calling for. information. I forget. Good for him for. doing that. Yeah. For getting out. Yeah. got getting out and talking to you about. that on the phone. Like he didn't have. to talk to you about that. He could have. just hung up. I'm surprised he because. many people did. Uh many I I was a I was. a Fix the World on the phone. Thank god. I didn't [ __ ] Do you know who Daryl. Davis is? No. Daryl Davis is a guy who's.

been on the podcast a couple times and. he's a uh blues musician. Is he black? Yes. Okay. And he's the guy that would. convert the clan members. I know who he. is. Yeah. And he gets their costumes. They give him their wizard costumes at. the end. He's just because he's probably. a guy who's not and I I have seen stuff. by him. He probably is just a good guy. and and it's hard to dismiss him because. he's not force-feeding you. Exactly. Um. it's hard to dismiss anybody when you're. just when you're not No one wants to be. messaged at. Right. Right. Right. Right.

I don't I I can't in stand up. I can't. even do it. Like my job is not to. convert people. I want you to know what. my life is. I hope you have some respect. for it. Like I'm just living the way I. want to live. And I'm not out to tell. other people they have to feel this way, right? Because no one wants to be. messaged at. Nobody. It doesn't work. It's not effective. It's If it was. effective, I'd probably What's effective. is what Daryl does. He just shows you. like this is a good man. I must be wrong. if I think that all black people are. evil. This guy's like become a good. friend. You have him over for dinner.

And then the guy's like, "I'm telling. you right now, I'm getting out of the. clan because of you." and he did it to. like 200 different people on a. one-on-one basis where he gets to know. them and getting beyond it's like we. talked about before like anytime. somebody is an [ __ ] publicly but when. you meet them and you realize oh there's. a person here like it's the way people. are supposed to communicate and this is. what I think is so terrible about social. media is that too many people are just. become so accustomed to barking at. people just barking out into the abyss. Yeah. I have to stop myself from doing. it. There's been times people have.

tweeted something and I want to make. like a [ __ ] remark and I'm like shut up. dummy. They're not talking to you. Exactly. Mind your [ __ ] business. I. really do say that to myself. Mind your. business, you [ __ ] hen. You know, when I see people do it, I think that. guy's mentally ill. Like, you're. engaging with these people. You're. yelling at these people on TW. You're. mentally ill. Yeah. Like, I don't care. what other people Like, I care people. think about me in the sense that I want. them to think I'm funny and I want them. to to of course we all want to be liked, but I don't care what people's opinions. on the Middle East are. I don't give a. [ __ ] Like, you're not going to change. their opinions and I don't need them to. agree with mine. Like I have enough.

confidence in my own brain that I am not. always right, but I'm always comfortable. in my opinions and I'm not afraid of. somebody. I'm okay being wrong, too, right? Like I don't need uh I don't I. don't need the power of agreement from. somebody. It's just Good for you. But. it's only because I've tried it in my. life and it hasn't worked. It doesn't. make you happy when you get it. No. Um. it only makes you angry. It doesn't. work. It's not It's a terrible way to. communicate. Yeah, it is. Jimmy, I love. you to death. I love you too, Joe. Thank. you, buddy. Always great to see you. Yes, sir. And can I uh tell everybody? Yeah. Yes. Uh the special is called uh.

Unconceivable. I kept forgetting the. name and it's not a misspelling. Unconceivable is actually a word in. English language and it does kind of. fit. And uh the podcast is Jim Norton. Can't Save You. Both are on Jim Norton. Comedy at YouTube. Um and I'm really. happy with this special. Like nice. I I. would say that anyway. I'm not going to. come up here and [ __ ] on my own special. I'm not that self-destructive. But I. actually really was happy with this one. Beautiful. So I hope you like it. All. right. Thanks, pal. Bye, everybody. [Applause].

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