Joe Rogan Experience #2334 - Kash Patel

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe. Rogan Experience. Train by day. Joe. Rogan podcast by night. All day. All right. What's going on, man? How you. doing, Joe? Very good to see you, sir. Thanks for having me, Austin. What is it. like to be the head of the FBI? How. weird is that? It's completely effing. wild. I mean, I don't even know how to. describe it. What was it? What did you. think it was going to be like and what.

was different once you got in there? Um, I thought that we were going to be. able to come in with the movement that. President Trump came in with the. administration to fix this, fix the. errors that the leadership of the FBI. previously made, not like the 37,000. change people. And we are we're doing a. ton of work. Um, I didn't know we would be able to do. it this quickly is my surprise. And that.

what that showed me was the people at. the bureau, literally people who've been. there, 30-year agents, they're coming up. to me like, dude, we wanted to do that. 15 years ago. Really, we wanted to do. that 10 years ago. And then my question. was like, you guys are the pros. Like, I'm just my job as the director. I'm not. chasing down bad guys. I don't know how. to do that. Is to give them what you. need and get the hell out of the way. And they were like, dude, all they did. was get in the way. So like what like. what kind of stuff specifically. specifically did you start doing that. they wanted to do 15 years ago? Simple.

the one that I've taken the biggest heat. for, you know, when I said, "Hey, there. are these are the statistics from the. USG, so you can take them or leave them, right? I don't know where else to go. because nobody else does these, right?". In the last calendar year, not this one, the year before, last, a 100,000 people. were dying of drug overdoses a year. That's one every seven minutes. A child. or kid was being raped every six and a. half minutes in this country. And there. were two homicides an hour in this. country. and we have a 38,000 person.

workforce. And I said, "Okay, where are. where are the agents? Where are intel. analysts? Where is everybody? We got 55. field offices. We got 300 what we call. RAS, resident agencies. So satellite. offices to field offices, major cities.". And they said, "Well, we've got 11,000. FBI employees in what we call the NCR, the National Capital Region. So if you. take DC and you do a 50 mile, 60 mile. radius around it, 11,000, almost a third. of the workforce work there." They said, 'What the hell are they doing there?

They said, 'Well, they mandated if you. want a promotion, if you want to move. up, you got to come back here and. prioritize stuff here. So, I said, 'Look, we're moving agents and intel. analysts to the field. And that's what I. did. 1500 people are going to the field. because a third of the crime doesn't. happen in Washington DC and the 65 miles. around it. And everybody was like, we've. been wanting to do this forever. I mean, just think about it. One agent out in. Indian country, one agent out in Texas, Arkansas, Washington State, prevents a. homicide, conducts a major drug bust, stops a ton of fentanyl or meth from.

coming into our country. One agent can. do that. And the agents that I talk to. now from around the country are just. stoked. That's awesome. That's great. news. That really is great news because. the fentinel thing scares the [ __ ] out. of me. It really does. Well, it's one of. the things I want to hammer down on, but. whenever you want to get into that. Yeah, please. Yeah. It's so terrifying. because, you know, we've shown it on the. podcast, the amount that'll kill you. Yeah. It's so small. It's like the the. tip of a pencil. Yeah. It's like point.

something something milligrams. It's. it's nothing. I'll give you. I I put this to big programming. I love. doing this long form stuff and this is. the only long form interview I'm going. to do. I hope you know. Thank you. I do. one interview. I do one interview a. month. One. And it's usually like a five. minute TV thing just to keep a breast. And we do a lot of stuff on social. media. But I've been looking forward to. this for a long time. Even when I was on. the campaign, I was just uh this is like. the best way to get information out. So. fentinel, right? Everybody's like, "How. do you attack fentinel? How do you stop.

this stuff?" Okay. Yes. Let's go after. the gangs, excuse me, the uh narot. terrorists down in Mexico. 100%. You got. to go after the cartels, the drug. trafficking organizations. You got to. shore up the southern border. And the. president has done an amazing job at. both of those things. made it a. priority. So we have decreased the. amount of fentinol being moved around. let's say right but not necessarily. coming into the United States. So. where's the root of the problem? The. CCP. So the fentinol precursors the.

stuff you need to make fentinol comes. from mainland China. That's it. Now I'm. sure like 1% of it comes from somewhere. else in the world but that's where it. comes. They've got hundreds of companies. standing up in mainland China shipping. this stuff out into the world. Now, their cover is that fentinol has and it. does have a legitimate lawful purpose in. terms of an anesthetic or medical use. for um anesthesiology related stuff.

Okay? So, there's like a minimal use for. it. And what the CCP has done is they've. come out and said this is like the. biggest like talk about the devil. pulling the wool over the world's eyes. They're like, "We don't make fentinol.". They're right. They don't. They just. give you all the ingredients for it and. ship it to Mexico. And then what they. did was to trick the world. They came. out and said, "Hey, we're going to not. sell precursor. X." They're like, "So now we're out of. the fentanyl trade entirely." The.

problem is there's 14 other precursors. you can use to make fentinol and they're. still shipping all of those. So what we. did when I got to the bureau is we stood. up this massive enterprise to go after. fentinyl precursor companies in mainland. China and they're probably not going to. like that. And what they're doing now to. get cute is they're shipping that stuff. not straight to here. They're going to. places like India and I'm also doing. operations in India and they're having. the Mexican cartels now make this. fentinol down in Mexico still. But you.

know instead of going right up the. southern border and into America, you. know what they're doing? They're flying. it into Vancouver. They're taking the. precursors up to Canada, manufacturing. it up there and doing their global. distribution routes from up there. because we were been so effective down. south. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's a it's a it's. a huge lift. Part of it is Americans. just don't. understand the depth and depravity of. fentinol. But what's worse is fentinol. You don't hear fentinol debts in China.

You don't hear fentinol debts in India. You don't really hear fentinol debts in. England, Australia, New Zealand or five. eyes partners in Canada. The Chinese, in. my opinion, the CCP, have used it as a. directed approach because we are their. adversary and they don't like us and we. don't like what they're doing when it. comes to fentinol. And their long-term. game is is this. How do I, in my. opinion, kneecap the United States of. America, our largest adversary? Well,

why don't we go and take out generations. of young men and women who might grow up. to serve in the United States military. or become a cop or become a teacher? And. that's what they're doing when you wipe. out tens of thousands of Americans a. year. It's a long-term plan for them. Oh, that is such a dark dark thing. It. is. But we got we got we're on it. What else could be done like with the. Chinese companies? I mean, has there. ever been any negotiation with Xi.

Jinping, with the United States, or the. like where you could lighten up tariffs. or do something and make some sort of a. deal or is it just so profitable for. them that they're going to do it no. matter what if they can? Here's the. thing, they're not making a ton of money. off of it, right? So, it's really just. for that purpose. You could send you. could sell fentanyl precursors and. unless you jacked up the price to. exorbitant amounts of money, they're not. making a ton of money. And so it's an. all of government approach. So I'm. working with guys like the secretary of.

treasury to do sanctions on some of. these companies. Right? Then I'm working. with our five eyes partners. And our. five eyes are the five English speaking. countries in the world. You know, uh. Canada, America, England, uh New. Zealand, and Australia, right? We share. intelligence. We share classified. intelligence on this stuff. So I'm. asking them, I said, "Hey, it's not just. affecting us. It will affect you and. your population. the CCP just hasn't. directed it at you yet and they know. that. And I said, "Guys, I need your. help. I'm looking at intelligence.

reporting that shows fentinol precursors. are now in your country. The fentinol. itself isn't being deployed into your. country, but it's there being. manufactured." And so I'm asking for. their help to shut down those factories. and production facilities. And I'm. asking the Mexican government's help to. come and say, "Hey, your drug. trafficking organizations are now. exporting the manufacturing of fentinyl. and getting creative in the ways in. which they obtain fentinel precursors.". So they'll say, "Oh, we didn't get it. from China. We got it from India. We got. it from, you know, wherever." And.

they're it's too cute by a half. It's. not like there's been a. reduction in the amount of fentinol. precursors that mainland China produces. What there has been a reduction in is is. President Trump's administration's. aggressive approach to just crush the. fentinel trafficking. And unfortunately, our adversaries adapt. We're so good. down south on the border here. And we're. so good in Mexico that they're moving it. elsewhere. Jesus.

We're going to get them. I promise you. I promise the president, the American. people, we will not have kids dying of. fentinyl overdoses in our streets. just. give me a little bit more time. We have. a massive operation going on around the. world on this. Well, that's great news. That's it's great to hear. So, um the. the fentinel a lot of it is it's not. just fentinel overdoses, right? It's. it's opiate overdoses overall. How much. is a lot of it because people get hooked. on pills and like and then they want.

more and then they buy black market. pills and those are the ones that have. fentinyl in it or is it Molly and things. like that that have been laced with. fentinyl? So great question. Nobody asks. these questions. It's probably why your. show's number one. Um they are. so demonic in their ways. They're like, "We'll make fentinol and people can go. use fentinol and get killed on. fentinyl." Then what they do is they. manufacture as part of this lift, they.

being the drug trafficking organizations. once they get the precursors from the. CCP, they take their pill presses and. they make fake oxycodon. So like. literally, I'm just giving you an. example, make tens of thousands of pills. of fakes oxycodon and we we bust them. for it. And in that fake pill is. fentinyl. It's laced with fentinyl that. kills people. Then the drug trafficking. organizations to make it appealing for. the youth. shape this illicit narcotic in the form. of like candy and gummy bears. So you.

hear about kids in New York who just. might have happen to have like a trace. amount touching it somewhere also dying. from it. So they have absolutely no. rules or boundaries whatsoever when it. comes to how they deploy fentinol to get. into our population. It could be through. another drug. It could be through a. synthetic. It could be through a fake. drug. Or it could be like, "Hey, and. we've seized it. Thousands of pounds of. material that looks like candy." Are. they doing it specifically to try to get. people to overdose on candy or are they. selling this candy as a drug? They're.

selling it as a drug. Okay. And they're. just saying it looks like candy. It just. looks appealing to kids, right? Like so. inner city youth, they're like, "Hey, put a pill down on the table. Put. a gummy bear down on the table." you. know, a younger person to be like, "Oh, that's cool. Let me try that." I mean, I. can tell you stories from now until the. entire show about high school kids on. the verge of graduating and they went. out and took a pill that they thought. was, you know, an upper, but it happened. to be laced with fentinyl. They died.

Their parents are calling. They're. destroyed. And people are like, "Well, we got to go after the drug. traffickers." I'm like, "We do." And we. are. But what my job is to educate the. American public on the root cause of the. fentinol that is destroying our society. and it's the fentinel precursors. And. I've asked I literally just got off the. phone with the Indian government. I said. I need your help. This stuff's coming. into your country and then they're. moving it from your country because. India is not consuming fentinel. They're.

not. No one's dying over there from. fentinel. But I need you and your help. So, my FBI is over there working with. the heads of their government, law. enforcement authorities, to say, "We're. going to find these companies that buy. it, and we're going to shut them down. We're going to sanction them. We're. going to arrest them where we can. We're. going to indict them in America if we. can. We're going to indict them in India. if we can. Start indicting in places. like Canada and the UK and England and. Australia." This is a global problem. And the reason it's gotten so bad is. because nobody did anything for four. years. You know, people are like, "How.

do they stand this up?" Well, if you. give the CCP, who has an endless amount. of money to deploy in human capital, that's what happens. It metastasizes. Why didn't anybody do anything for four. years? Have you been able to figure that. out? Look, to me, I'm a national. security guy, and anything that kills a. 100,000 people a year is a national. security crisis, right? It's what we. call a tier one threat. And the last. administration did not classify the drug. trafficking enterprise as a prime threat.

against the American people. And so what. happens is you reorient the system of. intelligence collection operations. I. mean, I'm not making this up. They said. climate change is our biggest priority. DEI is our biggest priority. I mean, you. guys have heard this and you've had. guests on that say it, but these are the. ramifications in real life. I only have. X amount of people that can target. something, right? Same with the CIA. Same with the DoD. But if the United. States government and Uncle Sam and your. commander-in-chief said, "Hey, I need. your x amount of people looking here. I.

can't clone that army to look back at. fentinel." Plus, we have to follow the. chain of command. It's so crazy that. they would say climate change and DEI. were the priorities for the FBI. Well, for the government. For the government. in total. So, I'll give you a better. example. So, I was in the end of the. last Trump administration, I was chief. of staff at the Department of Defense. one of the greatest jobs at the time. I. thought the greatest job I'd ever have. And when we left, we said, "Hey, you. know, Iran's a huge threat. We got to uh.

never let up on the counterterrorism. mission. We still have hostages out. there we got to find and bring home. And. the narcotics mission is a big priority. We handed off our playbook." And we. said, "Look, this is not a political. issue. This is protecting the American. people and our allies. So, we hope you. guys continue this effort." So, the DoD. has this thing called KONOPS, concept of. operations. The Department of Defense. has three million employees and a conop. is how you move the machine of the. Department of Defense. Hey, we have a. threat in Indoaccom. How many carrier. groups are we sending down there? We got.

a threat uh with government X. What are. we doing operationally, kinetically? What are we doing intelligence. collection? That's a con. The first. concept of operation that the Biden. administration launched at the. Department of Defense was on climate. change. You can't make this [ __ ] up. What do you think that's all about? Like. as an outsider, as someone like looking. at it going, I just don't understand. Like where's the profit in this? Like. what what is what's the motive? Like. what would incentivize all these people.

to get on board with it without someone. logically stepping in and saying, "Hey, this is not our top priority.". I think at its so that was something I. tried to answer when I was out of. government for the last four years. before I took this. job and the answer laid in the first. Trump term. We were doing things so. effectively on national security that. hadn't been done before in such speed. and volume that the media hated us for.

it because the the other party had tried. to do it and failed. What what things specifically? So when. it comes to Okay, hostages. I could talk. about that forever, too. Used to be. counterterrorism was a big portfolio. I. ran it for the White House and National. Security Council in the first Trump. administration. We brought home, people. don't know this. President Trump in his. first term brought home and rescued over. 50 hostages and detainees from around. the world. That's more than every. president before him combined.

Wow. Did you hear about the the successes of. reuniting families with lost loved ones. from Africa and the Middle East or these. operations that the president was. courageous enough to greenlight to go. into places like Afghanistan and do. these hostage rescue ops and use Seal. Team 6 and Delta or take out guys like. Baghdaddy and Solomaini? President. Trump's directive was simple. We are. going to protect the homeland. we're not. going to endanger the lives of our armed. forces and our intelligence community,

but their job is to protect the. homeland. And he said, "Go and we went.". And I think there was such a resounding. success that the media had such a hatred. for President Trump and his. administration. They just said, "One, we're not going to give you the credit. Two, we're going to put out a ton of. disinformation, which we can get into. And three, when they came time to. transition governments from Trump to. Biden, they just said, "We're not going. to do, and this is my opinion, we're not. going to do any of the stuff that worked.

because then we'll have to attribute it. to Trump's policies. So, we're going to. go off on our end." And I keep asking. people to prove me wrong. Like, tell me. something you did in that administration. that carried out the apolitical national. security mission to a tea. Right? I. mean, you had the Secretary of Defense. in the Biden. administration go down, go to a. hospital, MIA, literally awall, and. didn't tell the commander-in-chief and. broke the National Command Authority.

There is a reason and I was a guy. responsible for the nuclear football for. a part of my time at the White House. that that thing and there is an unbroken. chain of command between president of. the United States, the secretary of. defense and the national command. authority at all times because [ __ ]. happens. And what if it had happened in. that one or two weeks the guy was in the. hospital and maybe something did and we. don't even know, right? But no one, including the president, didn't know the. Secretary of Defense was in the. hospital. I can't tell you how big of a. cataclysmic failure for the national.

security mission that is. And what I. tell people when they're like, "It's all. right. It's not that big of a deal.". What if Hexath took a week out and said, "I'm going to the hospital. I'm not. telling anyone." What do you think the. media would do to that guy and Trump if. that were to happen now? Yeah. It would. be catastrophic. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so this. person went to the hospital for what? What was the I keep losing my flame. You. got the Isn't the letter over there? I. got it. Yeah, you got it. What was uh. what were they in the hospital for?

So, Secretary Austin was in the hospital. for medical issues. And I'm not saying. you shouldn't have Right. But there. should be someone else that's there's a. plan in place. The Deputy Secretary of. Defense comes in, you know, every time a. senior goes out, there is a continuity. of government plan in place. Oh, you're. out for a weekend treatment. No problem. But they just hid all this. They hit it. That's That's insane. And we broke it. We we discovered it and we broke it. And. it wasn't the only time he did it. It. was the second time or the guy would end. up doing it another time. Why would they.

do that? Just to hide the fact that. they're sick. Well, that I think is up. for debate. Like people are old and they. get sick. Like no big deal. You know, everybody needs treatment. Everybody's. got to go to Walter Re. Do you think. that he thought it would hurt him. politically if he looked weak? I'm not. Yeah, I don't know. Speculation. Yeah, I. don't know if I can answer that. I just. and and the secretary at the time, Secretary Lloyd Austin, was like a 45. year military man. It's not like this. was new to him. He'd been doing it his. whole life. Next man up, you know. So,

he had made a decision to try to keep it. private intentionally. And he would come. out later to say, "Well, oh, I just. wanted to keep it private." And I said, "Hey, man. Your life when you're the. Secretary of Defense, director of the. FBI, director of CIA, it ain't about. being private. That's gone. You signed. up to serve the mission. And when you do. that knowingly, you have literally. violated the National Command Authority. Wow. So, you were saying there's a bunch. of misinformation that was put out.

Yeah. Or disinformation. Like, what was. that? Pick it. So, my thing is all roads. lead to Russia Gate, right? That's where. it all started. I was uh coming out of uh my tour at J-. Sock as a civilian and and DOJ and um I. would end up going to Congress to run. this thing called Russia Gate, which at. the time no one knew anything. It was. just a whatever and then it became what. it became. And I would be the guy, the. lead investigator on the Hill who said, "Hey man, look, they lied in the FISA.

application." Let me give you Russia. Gate in 96. Okay. Could you imagine a time in the United. States of America in the 21st century. where a political party would go. overseas and acquire fake foreign. intelligence from a foreign intelligence. officer funded by donations to that. political party in the United States of. America. then take that material, package it, walk it to the FBI, literally, and say, "Hey, we need you to.

surveil the opponent of our political. party who happens to be running for the. president of the United States, then. convince the FBI to go into a secret. federal FISA court that I used to use to. manhunt terrorists and say, "Hey, I need. you to wiretap essentially all the comms. in and around Trump camp because of the. material we gave you." and then have. that FBI lie to the federal court and. the judge in that warrant application, which is a felony, and intentionally. remove information of innocence from. that application just to get it above.

the threshold so the judge would sign. it. That's Russia gate. That's what they. did. And you remember the years and. years of reporting surrounding Russia. The FBI would never lie. They would. never do that. The leadership there is. above reproach. James Comey, Andy. McCabe, Peter Stro, the list goes on. We. caught him red-handed. We caught him. You've seen the text messages. You've. seen the documentation. You've seen the. reports. But when I did that, when I. exposed that. initially as a staffer on the. Hill, Adam Schiff comes out and has his.

cronies leak to the world that I am. acting as as a genocidal dictator. There. was actually an article that called me. genocidal. Hang on, it gets better. Dictator. Yeah. No, it gets better. How. do you get to be a dictator? I don't. know. genocidal ones, let alone, right? Like, you know, it's it's a twofer. That's his words don't even mean. anything anymore. No, he literally. there's an article out there that they. called me Torquamada, the guy from the Spanish Inquisition. Jesus Christ. And I was a staffer. So,

the rule was you can ding elected. representatives all you want in the. media. You don't touch staffers. They. didn't care because they knew what I had. on earth was the biggest political. criminal scheme ever perpetrated by. portions of the FBI leadership and other. people in the intelligence community in. coordination with the media in. coordination and who could have. investigated it. But hang on, that's the. kicker. So what people don't know about. Russia gate that weren't paying. attention was that warrant that. initially kicked off the FISA.

surveillance on the Trump campaign at. large was. substantiated by FBI leaks to the media. Two of the articles cited in that. warrant from uh I think Mother Jones and. Yahoo News were leaks of information. from the same leadership at the FBI, Peter Stro, Andy McCabe, James Comey and. company. And then they in the. application be like, "Hey, it's not just. us saying that Trump's a Russian asset, right? Look at this article, Mr. Judge,

on the federal FISA court." And they. included it in that application. So this. was a. coordinated conspiracy to take down your. political opponent by weaponizing. government. And now I say that now in. 2025 when I said that in. 2017 whatever it was people were like. you're out of your effing mind. And I. was like look man I'm just showing you. the facts. I'm not making this up. I'm. showing you the application. I'm showing. you the documentation. And that's when.

they came after me. Um and it hasn't. stopped ever since. But the the damage. they did they the media and the people. that wanted to take out Trump and I. didn't care what you thought about and. remember back then I hadn't met Trump. Never spoken to him. didn't know him. I. took that job at Congress on one. condition. I said, "Whatever we find, we're putting out." I'd been in for 16. years at that point. Democrats, Republicans. I was a national security. guy, intel guy. That's what I wanted to. do. Chase terrorists, chase bad guys, bring hostages home and help protect the.

homeland. And I said, I didn't know if. Trump did this. I didn't know if he was. colluding with whoever. I didn't know it. would turn out like this that they would. actually manufacture and make it up. But. half of America to this day still. believes the narrative that the CNN's of. the world pushed for five years. And if. you look on their shows now, Russia Gate. keeps coming back up because we keep. exposing the documents that showed how. bad these guys were. And most Americans. like, "No, no, they're already. convinced." So in order to fix that.

disease temple, it is just that much. harder of a lift for me to go back into. the FBI. we're going to get it done. But. it takes so much more communication and. so much more energy to get after the. American people and say, "You were lied. to." Because that's the hardest thing I. think people can ever admit to. themselves. You were lied to. I went out. for years and created a life cycle out. of this lie of Russia gate. I went on. TV. I made money. I wrote books. I sold. political advertisements based on it. I.

I educated my children based on it. because I thought it was the truth. And. some of them have come back and said, "Yeah, we got it. wrong." But most haven't. And that's the. disinformation seed in my opinion that. started it all. And then you could talk. about things like January 6th or, you. know, pick your poison, rescuing hostage. or what have you. The media just never. got on board. They kneecaped Trump from. the beginning by participating in the. Russia gate uh collusion conspiracy with.

the. FBI. It's so crazy that someone could do. something like that and a whole enormous. group of people could do something like. that with no repercussions and to be. able to operate and you know say they're. the trusted source in news. and you were part of something that was. one of the biggest scandals in political. history. Mhm. But just because of. because it's targeted towards Trump, people look the other way. Like if that. was targeted towards Obama, could you. imagine how psychotic the response would.

be? People would be up in arms and. furious. But the same people that would. be up in arms and furious if somebody. tried to do that for Obama are. completely silent if it's happening to. Trump. Yeah. Just think about it. What. if me as the FBI director in the Trump. administration, right, during a. presidential cycle went out there and. said, "Hey, Republican National. Committee, do you guys have dirt on. whoever's running for the Democratic. nomination to be president of the United. States? If you don't, can you go. overseas and pay a foreign national who.

used to be an MI6 guy? Get me some bogus. intel. Then I, as the FBI director, will. authorize a warrant. I'll leak to the. media while I'm doing it. take their. articles, put it in that warrant, and. then go surveil the opponent so he. doesn't get elected. I would be in. prison, which I should be for doing. anything like that. Crazy. And that's. what people want accountability for. And. that's what you asked me at the. beginning of the show, you know, what's. the hardest part? I'm like, hey, I'm the guy that is. exposing and giving you the. accountability from 2017 onwards, but I.

wasn't the guy in charge of putting. people in prison and arresting them for. this conduct. And so the other education. campaign I have to go on is there's this. thing called the statute of limitations. I can't prosecute people for their. crimes in the past as the statute of. limitations has run. And I'll give you a. great example that goes right back to. Russia gate. So one of the big uh. systems I've created maybe because of my. time in Russia gate is I'm committed to. congressional oversight. I'm committed.

to giving Congress the documents they. need to do their work and give them to. the American people. Unredacted, no. classification BS. You want it, you get. it. So, we we just think about this. Me. at the director of the FBI, the former. Russia gate guy, when I first got to the. bureau, found a room that Comey and. others hid from the world in the Hoover. building full of documents and computer.

hard drives that no one had ever seen or. heard of. Locked the. key and hit access and just said, "No. one's ever going to find this place.". What? Yeah. So, my guys are going. through that right now. What's in there? A lot of stuff. I mean, that's the. thing. People are like, "Well, okay, go. arrest him." And I'm like, "Okay, well, how about you let me run a methodical. investigation while I give over. information." One of the things we gave. over before this uh the room deal was I. don't know if you remember who Nelly or. is. It doesn't really matter. Nelly's.

husband, Bruce, was like the number four. at the Department of Justice, and he was. the one who introduced the world to. Christopher Steel, the guy that started. Russia. Well, the entire time her. husband was doing that at DOJ, she Nelly. or was working on an outside contract to. dig up dirt on Donald Trump. So, she. goes to the Hill and testifies as a. result of our investigation right under. oath. She said, "I never worked," and. I'm paraphrasing, "I never worked with. my husband on any of that. I would never. do that." What a grassly put out just.

yesterday, two days ago. The Nelly. documentation that the FBI hid to the. world that we gave them where Nelly is. caught red-handed providing information. to her husband. Thumb drives related to. Trump Russia collusion directly proving. that Nelly lied to Congress. Felony. can't prosecute her. Statute of. limitations is gone. That's just one. example. Wow. What a. dirty business. Yeah, I hate it.

Politics is just it is just the dirtiest. and in this age of transparency because. of you know the internet and social. media and independent news like. everybody knows about it now. Like if. this if if CNN and you know and all. these left-wing news sources MSNBC and. it was only Fox on the right and that. was all we had and we had no internet. all this would be completely secret. No. one would have known the the Russia gate. collusion that that all that stuff would.

be people would really think it's a true. story. It would probably take decades. before someone wrote a book where people. started to really take it seriously and. really realize that there was something. [ __ ] up about it. Yeah. Um I'm not. allowed to plug my book, so I won't. But. I did write You can plug your book. Why. can't you plug your book? I think. there's some rules on it about I can. plug your book. What's your book? Give. it to me. Here you go. This one's for. you anyway. Government gangsters. Government Gangsters by Cash Patel. Go. buy it. Plugged. You didn't plug it. I did. I love it.

The Did you do the audio? Yeah. You read. it? Oh, I I got somebody to to do it. I. My voice is not for radio or TV. Oh, come on, man. You got a great voice. I. appreciate that. It's uh it's taken time. and a lot of cigars to get to hear. It. would be good for you to read it. They. should let you read it. Well, I mean, what's in But the reason I wrote it is. one, I never thought I was going back in. a government service. And two, part of. the job to completing the mission was. exposing what people didn't ever think. could happen in the United States of. America. And it was not just.

disinformation, misinformation, but your. government and leaders in government. weaponizing it for political purposes. Not just FBI and DOJ, but others in the. IC. And what it shows you is the back. end of that, too. The rewards, right? the guys that wrapping it back up or. reversing it back up. The guys that were. in charge of Russia gate at the FBI, Andy McCabe, right? Remember what this. guy did? Andy McCabe agreed to set in.

motion a plan with the deputy attorney. general, Rod Rosenstein, at the time to. have him wear a wire into the Oval. Office to record President Trump. That. those documents we found, we released. them. Whoa. Put that aside. While Andy. McCay was in charge of the Trump Russia. gate collusion investigation, his wife. was running for political office in the. state of Virginia. Do you know who's. funding her campaign for political. office to $600,000? Hillary Clinton. world, who happened to be running. against Donald Trump. Do you know what.

Andy McCabe did? He leaked information. about the Clinton investigation to the. media. unlawfully as the deputy director of the. FBI. got caught by us, then lied about it to. federal. authorities, and that's the reason Andy. McCay was dismissed. Do you know what. the Biden administration did? They. allowed him to retire out of the FBI. with full benefits.

Wow. He got rewarded. You know what he. does now? He's on CNN. You know who's. also on CNN? Peter Stro, the head of the. counter intelligence unit that had that. affair with Lisa Page, who basically put. out those text messages, who was running. that investigation with Andy McCabe and. said, "Trump people smell in Walmart and. we're never going to let them win. I. have an insurance policy." That guy's on. CNN. So, they get. rewarded for putting on this. disinformation campaign, for this. illegal activity because the media will.

never correct or some portion of the. media will never correct the record. Remember, these guys got Pulitzers. New. York Times, same thing. These guys got. the biggest award in journalism. They. were proven wrong, not by me, by the own. evidence created by, you know, how I. caught these guys? Because these guys. were so arrogant, they would write. everything down. And I found the. documents. Why would they write. everything down? They're so arrogant. They think, "No one's going to catch us. I'm going to write everything down. We're going to put it in a lock box. We're going to put it in a vault, and no. one's going to find it." Well, you know.

what? I found the vault, and now I'm. going to work. Wow. Now, is there a. statute of limitations on those crimes? So, generally the statute of limitations. on crimes for process crimes that we. call them, it's five years. But if you. can tie them to an overarching. conspiracy, there is no statute of. limitations. So, if there was more. egregious conduct that no one knew about. before that we are just finding and we. are investigating, then we'll have to. relook at it. The one thing we will do. is put out all that information to the.

American public. Once we actually get. through it and we'll give it to Congress. and if we can work with our partners at. DOJ to come up with a prosecution. that'll be their decision, we'll we'll. do it. The disturbing thing about all. this to me is how people on the left are. willing to look the other way because. this is a just a dangerous precedent. If. if the federal government is doing this. and they're doing this to someone who. you consider an enemy, what's to stop. this from doing it against your. candidate, like this is unprecedented.

behavior that's tolerated and. coordinated with the media. Like that's. dangerous for the country. It's d but. people are so ideologically captured. They're so they're so locked in to their. party and by any means necessary, we got. to get Trump out. And they push that. narrative so hard that they're willing. to do a very unamerican thing. Yeah. And. my goal now that I'm back in government.

is to make sure this doesn't happen. again ever. That's the goal. How can you. do that? How can you make sure it. doesn't happen again? Ever? Exposing it. all. And I know there are people and. look, people keep calling me and saying, "When are you going to arrest every when. you going to go out there and arrest. everybody that did everything to Donald. Trump?" I was like, first of all, you. guys were barking at people who were in. the seat before me to do that, and they. didn't. They failed. The difference. between me and that guy is one, I'm the. guy that exposed it. Two, I didn't tell. you this. I was the guy they targeted.

So, while I was doing the Russia gate. investigation, do you know what Trump's. own DOJ, Rod Rosenstein, the deputy. attorney general of the Department of. Justice, Christopher Ray, then director. of the FBI, did to me and a dozen other. staffers who were working Russia Gate. They subpoenaed all of our information. while I was running the Russia Gate. investigation. We wouldn't find out for. 5 years. You want to know why? Because. these guys were so vindictive. They went. to the federal court, not only got a. search warrant, they got a judge to say.

to all the telecom companies, Google, Facebook, everybody else, your banking. companies, everybody, do not tell them. for 5 years that we authorized this. subpoena. So, I just found that out last. year. Wow. This is how hard This is what I'm. trying to show. It's not a Republican. and dem or Democratic thing, right? It's. an all hands-on approach to protect the. leadership that was so corrupt, to. protect themselves and their actions and. their friends. My mission is to educate.

the world that this happened. And as. director of the FBI of responsibility, I'm not just going to bring a case. because somebody hurt me. They did and. they continue to do it. [ __ ] my house. just got swatted yesterday. What? Yeah, but you got swatted. Oh, yeah. the head. of the. FBI gets swatted. Yeah. Yeah. These. people play it's it's the ultimate. height of hypocrisy. They have two sets. of rules. One against you and one for.

them. And what I want to do is lay out that. entire body of work for the American. people with Congress. And I'm doing it. with guys like uh Grassly and Jordan and. Kennedy and Ran Paul on CO 19 and we. could talk about the origins. We. actually have some pretty cool. developments on that. front and let the American people know. that my mission has always been to put. out the truth whatever the consequences. are whoever it's against. Like I did.

when I signed up for Russia. If Donald. Trump was a Russian asset and I proved. it, I was telling the world that that's. what matters. And if we can hold people. accountable in terms of indictments, then we'll work with our partners at. DOJ. But what I'm asking people is don't. trust me. I don't care about that. Look. at what I have done and what we have. done. That's the guy that's now in. charge of the FBI. His leadership team. is in place. We've got great partners at. DOJ. We're the ones working on all this. stuff. And and look, let's just let's.

just get to it because I know it's on. people's minds. Epstein, right? The reason people are pissed off about. that is the same same thing, right? 20. years ago or whenever it was 2006,78, Epste gets his sweetheart plea deal, right? Right. After committing the most. horrific crimes on planet Earth, right? I wasn't in I wasn't in power there. I. wasn't in place there. I, you know, nothing to do with it. But people were. rightfully pissed. I mean, this guy was. committing the most grotesque ask acts. you can against. children.

And the media spins up about it. many in. the media protected him. Why? Because of. his relationships, who he knew, who his. bankers were, who his colleagues were, who was on the island and stuff like. that. Some pretty powerful human beings. And so when you peel back the the layer. and then you and then what happened? The. Trump administration the last go round. decided, "No, no, we're not going to let. that go. We're going to investigate. him." Right? They charge him, they. indict him, and he's awaiting trial.

And I've said it, Dan Bonino said it. We've reviewed all the information and. the American public is going to get as. much as we can release. He killed. himself. Do you think, let's play out. the logical conclusion of this, do you. think that myself, Bonino, and. others would participate in hiding. information about Epstein's grotest. activities? Or do you think we would. also participate in not prosecuting. people? We had evidence to prosecute. people on. But the problem is there's.

been like 15 years of people coming in. and creating fictions about this that. doesn't exist. Where's the videotape of. an Ipsy island of X, Y, and Z committing. these frauds? Why haven't you given it. to us? Do you really think I wouldn't. give that to you if it existed? I'm. working my ass off along with the. leadership at the bureau and DOJ to get. you what we're allowed to give you. And. you're going to get the video of the. cell and you're going to see for. yourself. and we will never be able to.

convince everyone. Okay, let's let's get. into that. So, what did you think before. you got in office? Did you think that. Epstein was murdered? No, no suspicion. at all of it. But I have a different. background. Right. Right. So, I was a. public defender back in the day. I used. to spend a lot of time in jails and a. lot of time in segregated housing units, shoes as we call them. Right. And so, um, and I've known people that have. committed suicide in these cells and I. know how you get in, how you get out,

who works the system. And so, the way. based on public information at the time. that he ended up put the pictures and. him hanging himself, I was like, man, that guy killed himself. It's there's. just no way that you could have run an. op and had people go into that cell and. not have any video of it and not have. any people come out and say, "Hey, yeah, I saw that guy. He shouldn't have been. there. The guard or this guy." There's. just no access points into places like. this in the detention center he was in.

Which I've been in. So, correct me if. I'm wrong, but what I was told, what I'd. read was that the guards were not paying. attention or were sleeping. Well, yeah. And in short order, you'll. see it. Is that is that correct? Well, it's hard to surmise that from a video, right? Like where they like, you know, and look, do guards doze off on the. night shift? Yeah, but no one can get in. to the cell. And if they had gotten into. the cell, you would see it, but we were. told that the cameras were down. Well, I.

don't know who said that, but that was. that was in the news. Um, we're giving. you all the footage we have. So, why. wasn't that released like immediately? Why? Why did this speculation escalate? I think you'd have to ask uh whoever the. attorney general back then was, Bill. Barr. Did you ever see Do you remember. that HBO autopsy show, Dr. Michael. Baden? He's a famous forensic I don't. think I scientist. So, uh he's a. pathologist and he reviewed the case and.

it was his determination that it was a. homicide because of the way his neck was. broken. Mhm. And what he said was it was. indicative of a liature strangulation. and it was because of the positioning on. the neck where the marks were that it. wasn't indicative of someone hanging by. their weight which had been higher on. the chin and there's a specific break of. the bones and the vertebrae that's. consistent with someone who is just. strangled to death. I I haven't seen it. I'll definitely take a look at it.

because that's part of my job. You. haven't seen that the report on that? No, I haven't looked at that. Did you. see any kind did was there any other. autopsy done other than the official. one? Not to my knowledge, but if there. was, you'll get it. And that's what. we're doing. See if you can find that. doc Dr. Michael Baden thing. Did you. remember that show, the HBO show? No. Pretty cool show. So this guy Dr. Michael Baden, he had a long career of. catching murderers, you know, exuming. bodies, finding trace amounts of. poisons, different kinds of things, and.

it was a crazy show. like all these wild. ways of people. Well, I love watching. shows and I spent a lot of time on. planes. Yeah, it was an old show. It was. a show like from the early 2000s, I. believe. Um, but this guy was like, you. know, this very wellrespected forensic. scientist who would analyze these bodies. and it was his determination that he was. murdered. Yeah. And my job going back to. the core of what I've been doing since I. studied Russia was to get and is to get.

everybody the information. When did you. get here? Epstein's autopsy points to. homicide pathologist hired by brother. claims. New York City medical examiner. strongly disputed the claim that the. evidence from the autopsy suggested. strangulation. So, let's go to the By. the way, this is the New York Times and. they never. lie. Private pathologist Dr. Michael. Baden said the morning TV show Fox and. Friends, Mr. Epstein experienced a. number of injuries, among them a broken. bone in his neck that are extremely. unusual in suicidal hangings and could.

occur much more commonly in homicidal. strangulation. I think the evidence. points to homicide rather than suicide, said Dr. Baden, who observed the autopsy. done by city officials. Dr. Baden, a. former New York City medical examination. and a Fox News contributor, said, "I. have not seen in 50 years where that. occurred in suicidal hanging case." Uh, findings by Dr. Baden were strongly. disputed by the city's chief medical. examiner, Dr. Barbara Samson, who. previously ruled that Mr. Epstein's. death on August 10th in the Metropolitan.

Correctional Center was a suicide. I. stand firmly behind our determination of. the cause and manner of death in this. case. Dr. Samson said in the interview. on Wednesday, she added, "In general, fractures of the hyoid bone and. cartilage can be seen in suicides and. homicides. The hyoid bone is near the. Adam's apple." Dr. Samson also dismissed. Dr. Bad's contention that the. circumstances around Mr. Epstein's death. suggested other people may have been. involved. She said her office had done a. complete investigation taken into. consideration information gathered by.

law enforcement in the making in making. the determination. So this is a perfect. example of going back to my public. defender and prosecutor days. This is. what we call a war of experts. You can. always find someone right to come in and. say the opposite, right? And I used to. do it all the time. I mean, I. represented some of the worst humans. that you can possibly imagine on earth. Literally, the guys that uh were. trafficking children from Mexico into. America, and you could put up a. professional expert to say, and this is.

what's going to go on forever, and my. job is not the forever. My job is to get. you absolutely everything that we can. give you, and that's what we're going to. do. When did you become aware of this. video that showed that no one had gone. in and out of the cell? Um, recently. So. why was it recent though? I mean if this. death was how long ago was this death? Two years. Couple 2019. 2019. Oh really? Why? Time. flies. So six years.

Well again that's part of what I'm going. to try to answer for you. Jeffrey. Epstein JLCC TV erased by technical. errors. Whoopsies. Yeah. But you see how anybody on the out I. mean this is like a perfect storm. Yeah. for something. Can you pull that article. up so we can read what it says? Jamie, US prosecutor said the jail mistakenly. saved footage from the wrong cell. Sorry. Epstein, a convicted sex. offender, first tried to kill himself in. July last year and hanged himself in. jail. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang. on. Yep. Reread that line that he first.

tried to kill himself in July of last. year. Yeah. How much of the American. public do you think knows that? I didn't. know that until right now. There you go. Maybe I heard it and forgot. Did you. ever hear it, Jamie? Well, he was on. That's why he was on suicide watch, I. think. Oh, okay. So, a guy hang himself. in jail in August while serving trial on. federal sex trafficking charge. He. pleaded not guilty to abusing dozens of. girls, some as young as 14. Soon after. Epste's death in August, two of the CCC. CCTV cameras outside his cell. malfunction and were being examined by.

the FBI. Found semic-conscious in his. prison cell with injuries on his neck on. 25th of July after this incident. He's. placed on suicide watch. I'm not saying. every single camera in the place was. working. I'm saying we've got footage. and you're getting it and it then you. can make up your own mind and right the. theories can continue but my job so you. you became aware of this footage. recently the ones that we're looking at. Yeah. Right. And so but this is like an. article from quite a while ago that was.

saying that the footage was mistakenly. erased. Look, I mean goes back to the. same Ask the people that were in power. then. I mean I get it that you want to. hold me to account for their actions and. Not you. Not you. I'm not saying that. Not you. That just the the public in. general. And that's okay. What's. confusing to everybody today? First of. all, it's very confusing because AI can. kind of make anything. You know, it's. which has got to be a bizarre position. for you to be in when you're looking at. videos. I mean, I've watched Viking. videos. It look real as [ __ ] You know, they just make Viking towns. I mean,

it's really quite incredible what. they're doing now. And it it accelerates. every month. I mean, I talked to Elon. about it. He said, "We're blown away. literally every week. Every week there's. some new breakthrough. We're like, "Wow, we didn't expect that." Well, I can tell. you after having looked at it, this. ain't going to be AI. You don't think. so? You're gonna It's It's just not. great. You know, it's like if it were. AI, like someone wanted to come in and. make it, they'd make it better. But why. would you make it better when people. could, you know, you could have. ambiguous footage that is, you know,

totally generated by AI? I mean, AI can. generate blurry images. AI can generate. night vision. AI can generate. essentially anything that's already. existed like really shitty 1984 VHS. tapes. They can do that. They can. But. I'm telling you, I'm giving you the tape. from the tape. Mhm. You know, there's. just like I'm giving you the documents. from the vault, just like I'm giving you. information to Congress on CO origins or. what have you. What we find is what.

you're getting. Okay. Okay. So now it's. saying in 2019 missing jail video from. the first Jeffrey Epste for the first. attempt has been found. So maybe let's put it into perspective. Jails are not the most efficient bestrun. places. It's not like Fort Knox. Yeah. No, it's not. It's Yeah. You know, we're. working with what we got, right? So, and. listen, this guy's not the only guy to. kill himself in prison. It happens I.

don't know how often, right? All the. time. Even if he killed himself in. prison. So if he if he was murdered in. prison, crazy, right? You could see why. very powerful people wouldn't want if he. was murdered in segregated housing in. isolation after being on suicide watch. in a place in a detention center that I. physically been in myself. It would. be fiction. It's just in in my. experience that is not doable. It's not. doable. Even for the most powerful and.

wealthiest people in the world. Yeah. Wouldn't you think though that like if. if someone was in a position where a guy. could release information that could. potentially damage the most wealthy. people on earth, you would have a. concerted effort that's unprecedented. Sure. You'd have the resources that we. could even possibly. comprehend all pointing towards. eliminating this one person that it. could be done. But I mean so many people. have been implicated right already and.

some of that information what do they. did to Prince Andrew and everybody else. is already out there and so that's the. conspiracy stuff that me and Bonino and. the folks have to say look we will give. you everything we can and then we will. have done our job. Also, if I had a. shred, me cash Patel had a shred of. evidence, the Russia gate guy, the Jan 6. guy, the co origins guy had a shred of. evidence that this guy was murdered, I.

would be the first guy to bring this. case hard and fast. And I would do even. doing press conferences every week on. it. The first guy. That's what I'm. asking people to play out to their. logical conclusion. I'm not Comey. I'm. not Mabe. I'm not the guy that was in. the seat before. I have a wildly. different background. I've been putting. out the truth my entire career. Why. would I risk all of it on this guy? I. believe he cast the letter. Oh, I I. believe you. I just think that, you. know, the problem is we've been fuming.

on this conspiracy for so long and it we. love conspiracies, don't we? As as a. country, there's so much I mean, you. know, they make JFK tapes. Come on. Like. release the documents. We all love them. We love them. We love UFO ones. We love. everything. We love the craziest. conspiracies. They're exciting. We don't. want to hear that he tried to kill. himself in July and then succeeded in. August. And uh look, I could imagine why. the guy wanted to kill himself. He was. going to jail for the rest of his. [ __ ] life. And in jail, sex offenders.

for children are not treated well. And. also, by the way, most Americans. haven't, nor should they. Have you ever. spent one minute in segregated housing? No. It's the worst. The absolute worst. Like you and your background, you could. probably handle it, right? Like, you. know, just in all reality, most. Americans, you put them in there for 5. seconds, they're going to slam their. head against the wall. Literally, they're going to lose their mind. Yeah. Immediately. Yeah. It's that bad. I'm. sure. I could only imagine. And I could. only imagine this guy knowing that it's.

over. And what do you want to do? Do you. want to Yeah. And who knows who the [ __ ]. he's working for? Let's just put that. aside. Now, if you're working for Let's. just We don't have to name names. We We. don't have to speculate. If he's working. for. some agency, some group, some foreign. group, and they decide to target his. family because he look, he's going to. jail for the rest of his life anyway. They decide to target his family if he. testifies against them. I could see.

where I if I thought that it was like. I'm gonna be in jail for the rest of my. life or I tell and my family winds up. being killed or or destroyed or who. knows maybe you'd say look the honorable. thing is to end it in prison. Honorable. cowardly thing cowardly whatever it is. like you just decide at some point that. guy was going back into gen pop. And the. one thing I'll tell you about prison. systems is the the people they eat are. child predators. Yes. and he was going.

to get eaten. Well known. Yeah. And they. probably wouldn't have protected him. Yeah. Um so the narrative has always. been that there's video. Now what is the chain of custody? Do is. there evidence that there is video? Is. there evidence that it was moved around, stored, protected from people looking at. it? Like you're going to get all that. information. Like that's literally what. we're putting together and we're going. to give you every single thing we have.

and can and that's the whole point. We. can't fill gaps by making stuff up and. we're not going to do that. And you have. to be methodical and we have to be. that's the other thing, right? We're. reviewing not just the video. We're. reviewing ev, you know, everything as. meticulously as we can because that's. what we owe the American people. That's. our job. And I don't want to rush to the. sticks or the podium and just say, "Hey, look what we found." Right? And then be. like, "Oh, sorry. I I forgot the 4.

seconds." You know, if we miss 4. seconds, you're be like, "Oh, well, it's. in the 4 seconds you missed." Right. So, I I'm I'm How much can you talk about. what you've seen? Not yet. Um just just. what I've told you. Can you say you've. seen anything? No. That's the point that there's. nothing in there like in the video. You. guys will be bored. You're talking about. the video of the murder or the the. suicide suicide. But what about the. video of from the island? Oh, that's the. Sorry. So, you're talking about two. different. So, sorry. So, yeah. So,

again, we're going to give you. everything we can and people have to. remember, we're not going to. revictimize women. We're not going to. put that [ __ ] back out there. It's not. happening because then he wins. Not. doing it. You want to hate me for it? Fine. Again, logical playout. If there. was a video of some guy or gal. committing felonies on an island and I'm. in charge, don't you think you'd see it?

If you have access to it if I have it. Period. If I have it. If I have it. So, where else would it be? Right. If. you have it, right? But you can't say. that you have it. No, we're giving you. everything we have so far. Everything we have so far is Have you. guys gone over all the video that's. available? Yeah, that's what I'm telling. you. That's what takes so much damn. time, right? And and is there video from. the island? Not of what you want. The the people out.

there have filled the void with can't. wait to see X, Y, or Z, right? Speculation. And I'm like, here's the. other thing I've been asking for, right, openly. If you have information on this, call us. tell us the best resource we. have is the American people in the. world, right? Get me the tail numbers, get me the flight, you know, get me new. information and I will run that down. So, this narrative might not be accurate. that there's video of these guys doing.

this. Exactly. Is it possible that the. video was taken and destroyed? Well, you're talking about what, decades. worth of stuff, right? Remember, we have. what we have pursuant to lawful uh. search warrants and authorities from the. case that was done uh however many years. ago it was done. That's what we have. If. other people have other stuff and they. want to give it to us, bring it. Have. you guys reviewed everything that you. have? Almost. Like we're That's I mean,

yes, we have. And now we're figuring out. how to right put it out. Now, I. understand that you would. never revictimize these women and show. this footage, but is there footage? Outside. of the only thing I can say right now. is if there was ever if there was. footage of anyone doing anything else, we would have opened a case. Is it. possible that there was footage that you.

just will never have access to because. they've already gotten rid of? I mean, anything's possible, right? Well, there. was a long time, right, between the time. when it was clear that Kamla lost the. election and that Trump won. Yeah. I. mean, I got here before he got into. office. I got here 100 days ago, literally. Right. Exactly. It's just. kind of crazy, you know. So, I'm I'm. doing what I can and and that's this. type of stuff like, you know, and I'm. happy to to talk about it and bring it. up, but what I what I'm trying to. achieve at the bureau is not only are we. doing what's of public interest, what's.

of great public interest, our biggest. job, our biggest job is to defend the. homeland and stop kids from dying. That's my Well, that's my biggest job. and that's what I'm focused on. And I. think we can do all of those things and. we're doing them really well. And I. think if you give us just like another. hundred days, it's not a lot of time. I've been literally I just hit my 100. day mark like two days ago, right? Um. you're going to see a ton of stuff. You're already seeing it. We we just hit. the we just rolled out the Catholic. memo. The truth about that. What is.

that? Um the last. administration the FBI wrote a memo. targeting Catholics. Remember the. Richmond Catholic memo? I don't remember. that. Okay. So, basically they uh there. was. a write up from the FBI relying on the. Southern Poverty Law Center, which is. like the modern-day Fusion GPS, um and basically said Catholics should. be targeted as domestic terrorists. Yeah. So, then Chris Ray, the former FBI.

director, went to Capitol Hill and. testified about it. And the Congress was. like, "Wait a second. Is this real? Is. it predicated on actual fact?" And how. how wide is it? Is it one office? Is it. all these people across the country? Are. Catholics being targeted as domestic. terrorists? And what ended up happening. was Ray said, "Oh, it's just one office, one memo, nothing to see here.". Well, what we just rolled out again to. Congress this week to Chuck Grassley who.

put it out was that in fact it was. multiple offices, multiple. memos that were weaponizing law. enforcement to target a religious group. during an election cycle and we proved. it and now everybody has read it. Why? Why were they targeting the Catholics? I. don't know. You'd have to ask the people. that got here before I did. Did you have. any suspicion of what kind of motivation. they would have to to do that? I think. when you use it goes back to Russia. gate. If you're willing to use Mickey.

Mouse journalism, if you're willing to. use the fusion GPS's and Christopher. Steels of the world like the leadership. at the FBI then did, then it has a. chance to replicate itself. And that's. what happened. I don't know if you know. anything about the Southern Poverty Law. Center, but it's they literally are the. ones that sent information to the FBI. And the FBI said, "Oh, we'll write a. memo." And so that's the type of work. that I think gives credibility back to. the bureau, us exposing it, us giving. Congress the truth, Congress coming back. in and saying, "Hey, you actually didn't. give us the Heisman, you gave us the.

documents, we gave them to the American. people. And if there were criminal. referrals to come out of that, then. let's do that." I mean, we just had a. great breakthrough this week on Fouchy. Um, so Senator Ran Paul, Senator. Kennedy, and I hate naming names because. I always forget people are doing a great. job with us on CO origins and and we've. got multiple investigations open on. that. But they had always been looking. for um Fouch's original phone and or not.

original but phones and devices he used. while he was Fouchy back in Trump one. during CO and nobody had found it till. two days ago. Really? Yeah. Now look, your audience and everybody listening to. it is not shouldn't jump to the. conclusion everything's in there. We'll. look at it. We'll pull it. We'll rip it. as we say. And maybe it's deleted. Maybe. it's not. But at least we found it. And. at least now we can tell the American. people we've been looking because it is. of public importance to figure out did.

that guy lie. Did he intentionally. mislead the world and cause countless. debts? We owe those answers to the. American people. And the best evidence. ever is always the people's evidence who. created it. And so now we're going to go. and exploit those hard drives. But I. think a victory for the American people. that we broke with Congress is that we. did find it. We're not done. We're still. looking and we're on the case. So. whether it's Richmond Catholic memo, whether it's Fouchy CO. origins, whatever becomes of great.

Russia gate, crossfire hurricane, whatever becomes of great public. importance, that's a big part of what we. do at the FBI, too. The crossfire. hurricane one is bananas. Well, that's. all Russia gate. Yeah, it's completely. nuts. I mean, you can we can do three. days on that. I mean, I'm that's like I. spent It's bananas. I mean, it's I mean, there's so many things in the past that. you you get like like the uh Operation. Fast and Furious. Yeah. The guns. Insane. Which led to the death of. American lives of a federal agent. Yeah.

Yeah. You You know, and there's just. things that like I see that you would. think I would have more uproar even as. as much time I've been doing this that. don't and things that wouldn't have that. my mind would be like no one's going to. pay attention and people like, "Oh my. god." And so that's part of the learning. curve for me too, you know, like trying. to figure out what the balance is, you. know, should I be given this so much. attention, so much resources, but then. when I have to call a parent because. their kids dead from fentinol or when I. have to call a cop's family and I call. every single line of duty death that we.

have in this country, I call everyone's. chief and I call their families. And I'm. glad that the numbers are going down in. terms of how many have been killed this. year versus last year. How much have the. numbers gone down? Um, by over 15% so far, but I want to be. at zero. You know, that's where my focus. needs to be. 15% in 100 days. Still, you. know, pretty good, give or take a couple. of points. Um, and that's where my focus. that's where the FBI's focus needs to.

be. I these guys are on the line. We're. doing all these raids across the country. in Homeland Security Task Force. We just. hit a 10,000 mark. We just we just. arrested over 10,000 people in the hund. and change days that we've been doing. this with DHS. Huge, right, on illegals. and and whatnot. We also just like this. is great. This this piece of information. has actually made me. happy. We are on track to have the. lowest homicide rate.

ever. Murder rate, excuse me, murder. rate ever in the country. Yeah. Really? We're already and look, we got six more. months to go. So, we're not done yet for. the year, but we're already down 20%. from last year. And we broke it this. week that right now the murder rate, if. we, the FBI, and our government partners. achieve the mission will give the. American people the lowest murder rate. in decades. That's incredible. And. that's what I'm the focus on. What What. steps have been made to do that? Like,

what how did that become real? So, I think and I and I've worked with. cops and law enforcement a lot in the. past and you have too. They're they're. awesome. They all they wanted to do was. do the work once President Trump got. elected and before I even got the. nomination, right? And excuse me, when I. was traveling country with with them. before that they were like, we take the. handcuffs off off of us. Let us go do. our jobs. And that's where I came up. with let good cops be cops. I said, if.

I'm going to get this job, that's what. I'm going to do. I'm going to let you, the agents, the police officers, the. sheriffs, go out there and do the work. you so badly want to do. And I'm going. to give you the resources you need to do. it. And I'm going to take away the. politicization and weaponization saying, "Oh, we can't target this group or this. thing or this area." And that's it. That's what we've done. Everywhere I go, I I speak to cops across this country. constantly, and it's a humbling message. that I receive back every time I talk to. them. They're like, and it's not me,

it's the president's administration and. our entire government that's doing it. They're like, "Thank you for letting us. do the work. We want to chase child. predators. We want to bust up MS-13." I. mean, look at the victories we've had. for the American people in the first two. months. The FBI arrested three, not one, not two, but three of the world's most. top 10 wanted. fugitives. Three. One of them happened. to be the guy that was the Abbey Gate. bomber. What was the Abigate bomber? The um.

terrorist that blew up 13 US soldiers in. the Afghan withdrawal. Oh, I did it with my inter agency partners. in a week. In a week, we found that guy, went to Pakistan, brought him back here. Now, there's others responsible for it. and we're we're chasing them down, too. But the question the American people. should be asking is why didn't the prior. administration putting aside the. disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, a plan that they completely politicized.

We handed off them a proper way to do it. and methodical way to do it. And they. just said, "F you. We're doing it this. way." And you saw the videos and you saw. people plunging from our from our. aircrafts and you saw Abby Gate and 13. Americans dead. Why didn't anyone go get. justice for those families? Well, that's. the priority that the president said. We're going to go find him. And we let. good cops be cops. We let federal agents. be agents. We let our intel community. focus intelligence collection on. terrorists. And we went and got that.

guy. It's so hard to believe that it's. really that simple that it's just they. weren't given the resources and they. weren't given the support to let cops be. cops and that they could have done this. all along. I don't know if that's the. only answer. I'm just telling you what. I'm doing and I think we're seeing some. results. I appreciate that. But as a. person again who loves conspiracies, you. know, you look at that and you're like, what would be the benefit of not letting. cops be cops? Why would you want more. crime? Why would you want more murders? Why would you not want to arrest bad. guys? Well, you have to look at the.

landscape of the last, I don't know, 4, 8, 12 years, call it, right? It was an intentional decision, and this isn't politics. It was just an. intentional decision to say, we're going. to let all these people into our country. and let them stay. The result of that. is, you know, this is another part of. the lift that we're doing at the bureau. We call them KSTs, known or suspected. terrorists. They get uh pinged at the. border, the northern border and the. southern border. And then the last.

administration said, "You guys can come. in.". And then one of the most terrifying. things I heard was my predecessor. Christopher Ray went to Congress a year. or two ago and said, "Well, the last. year's annual statistics for known KSTs. was u a few dozen and we don't know. where they are in America." What do you. mean you don't know where they. are? How is that not a national security. crisis? And so what we're doing while we're. doing these raids and chasing down. illegals is trying to target those with.

terrorist affiliations, those who are. terrorists, those are in our homeland. because the last administration let them. be here. And that's you can say I'm. being political. I don't really care. But that's me being the FBI director and. saying Americans come first and we're. protecting our own and we're chasing. them down. and DHS is doing a great job. and and so is our intelligence community. and so are the local police uh. departments who are now working with us.

and not living in sanctuary cities and. allowing police stations to be burnt to. the ground, working with us and not. having law enforcement attacked. constantly for just doing the job of. protecting the American people. I think. that's a tectonic shift in the mentality. of what this administration has brought. in. Now, people are still vilifying us. for doing that. How dare you separate. families, they'll say. And I'm like, how. dare you separate a mom from a kid on a.

fentinel overdose? How dare you separate. an American soldiers mom or dad from the. guy that got blown up at Abby. Gate? I have different priorities. I. have a different view of it. And so, that's the ethos I'm bringing to the. bureau. I appreciate everything you guys. are doing. I just I I'm baffled to try. to come up with any kind of an. explanation why anybody would let known. or suspected terrorists into the country. and just let them loose. I mean when. when you I mean I know you can't. speculate but when you take office and.

you realize all this is going on like. what what is going through your mind? Like how are you processing this? Like. is this pure incompetence? Is this. malice? Is this is this a foolhardy. adherence to ideology and just. completely ignore the danger that. they're putting the American people in. by doing this? It's I think it No, it's. intentional. The intentional decision. was when you're going to let in what is.

it 9 million. people, a lot of them are going to be. criminals. A lot of them are going to be. TDA. You saw what they did in Colorado. A lot of them are going to be MS-13. A. lot of them are going to be narot. traffickers, which when you enter when. you allow narcot traffickers in the. country, you're automatically bringing. sex trades trafficking, human. trafficking, and drug trafficking. automatically. And the drug traffickers. have partnered with the terrorist. organizations and our adversaries. We. haven't even talked about Russia and the. CCP and how they've combined forces over. the last however many years to.

infiltrate America, not just with. people, but our cyber capabilities and. our infrastructure. And so when I come. into a job like. this, patience is one of the hardest. things. You have to manage because you. can't fix everything overnight. You have. to build up the workforce. You have to. get them the resources. You have to fix. the infrastructure that's broken. I. mean, I'll just give you a quick. example. The building that the FBI calls. headquarters, the Hoover building, is. like 70 years old. I literally have. netting, mesh netting, holding up the.

side of the building because pieces of. concrete fall off of it so it doesn't. hit people in the head. I'm not kidding. I'm dead. serious. So I said, "How about we give. the workforce a safe place to work so. we're moving out of there?" And people. think it's a political decision. Oh, Cash Patel's taking the FBI out of the. historic Hoover building. Yeah, because. I don't want people to die and I think. they deserve a better workplace than. something that's 70 years old that has. pipes exploding literally every single.

week, every week. And also, we're going. to save the taxpayer money. We're going. to get out of a building that would cost. billions to fix. And we're going to move. into a location that's already built. instead of a 15-year government. boondoggle an hour outside of DC. And. we're going to stay in DC. We're going. to stay near our partners in government. And we're going to put out the workforce. and spread them out across the country. like I talked to you about earlier and. put more agents on the streets and put. more agents in Indian country and put. more agents in your communities and. intel analysts to figure out where the. crime is. But that all of that takes.

time. I can't do it overnight. But why. do you say Indian country? Like what. what tribal lands? Well, what about. tribal lands is problematic. Oh man. So. this you're uh thank you so much for. bringing this up. It's one of my biggest. priorities. So the the tribal and I just. met with um almost all of the the the. the chiefs and the leaders of the tribal. communities in America. The crimes they. have committed on on on what we call. Indian country is just as horrific if.

not worse than the rest of America. Look. up the story about Emily Pike whose. family is still waiting for her arms. This child was murdered on a reservation. and they found a piece of her body and. not the murderer and not the rest of her. body. They are plagued by drugs and they. have never been a priority um in terms. of law enforcement working together. And. and now remember you're talking about. two different sets of legal uh. structures, right? They have their own. and we have our own. But what I've asked.

of them and what they've asked of me is. pay more attention, give us more. resources. What I've asked of them is. said, "Hey, all the leaders said, let my. guys on let my guys come to you and. let's work together on solving some of. these horrific horrific crimes. The the. trafficking, the murders, and the. violent crime on Indian reservations is. is skyrocketing. And I'm not going to. treat people who live in the United. States of America differently because. they have a different way of life. We're.

going to help them. and we put out. operation not forgotten where we re we. deployed this this month and this summer. um I can't remember how many agents and. intel analysts specifically to remote. tribal locations to solve crimes that. have not been solved for years. specifically the most violent and we're. going to double down on that and as. Bonino likes to say this summer we are. unleashing a massive operation across. the country um as Dan calls it it's a uh. it's a bad day to be a bad guy this.

summer because the FBI is putting out. all these extra agents and personnel. into the field and we're going to come. find you. If you think you can nest in. our communities and and find safe haven, you're going to prison. That's great to. hear. So, when what is the when you guys. sit around, you think about the. motivation to let all these people into. the country? Mhm. I mean, again, you you. kind you're kind of speculating, but why. do you think they allowed it? Why do you. think they allowed the border to be wide.

open like that? You know, in my job now, that's like one of those political. decisions and so I try to stay out of. that. Um, but how is that political to. leave the border? Like that how is a. national security issue political? So. that's just it from my perspective. It's. a national security decision and they. failed on the national security mission. But I think where the decision from that. administration to do that was a. political one. That's what I'm trying to. sort of separate. I've always viewed it. singularly. Protecting the border,

preventing drugs from coming in, preventing terrorists from coming in, preventing people from What What. political decision could be made that. makes any sense at all to not do that? I. don't think there is one, but. unfortunately they did it anyway. Do you. think it was just that Biden was just. not there and everyone else that was. really running things, was completely. incompetent, was focused on other. things, was focused on maybe the optics. of border protection that it, you know,

that somehow or another there was some. negative connotation to it politically. I don't I think it's I always say this. I think it's dismissive to say those. people were incompetent. They're super. smart. They're not dumb and whether or. not Biden was running things or whatever. conversation for other people to to. have. But there's lots of people around. them who are very smart who were in. government for a long time and they this. is what I mean they politicized the. national security and law enforcement. apparatus of this country by making. those decisions. the why. You'd have to.

ask them as to why they did that and why. they thought that was okay and why. people think it's okay for uh James. Comey to go down a beach and put up. 8647. You know, that's another political. act that hurts our national security. from smart people who are doing it. intentionally and maybe because it's. they want press, maybe because it's. they're selling a book, maybe because. it's they want notoriety. I don't know. the answer to that. But for me, it's all.

national security related and these. people keep doing it over and over. again. The good thing is now there's a. bull work against it because we're in. and the president just is not having any. of it. What was the case very recently. where you guys caught a scientist. bringing in pathogens. Yeah. So I'm a New Yorker and I brought. this for a reason. This means spore. [ __ ] New York Post is the best. They're the best. They have the best. headlines ever. Yeah. So it's so funny.

It's based. So the case is still go. It's obviously ongoing since we just. made the arrest. So I'm a little limited. in what I can say, but backing up the. truck a little bit. Agro terrorism is a. thing, right? The CCP isn't just coming. at us with fentinel and coming at us in. our cyber infrastructure and our. capabilities in space and underwater. They are. literally exporting people to the United. States of America, having them end up. being senior researchers like this.

individual at the University of. Michigan. And the bureau picked up on. this and said, "Wait a second, why are. you bringing you and her husband was. also um indicted, but he's in mainland. China, so he's not here." But we. retraced what he did. And what's public. now is that he also tried to come to. this country to do the same thing. So. they were making the connections on. that. But what they did was literally. bring in a a mushroom that technically.

alone exists, you know, in the US, but. in an altered state causes billions of. dollars of damage to wheat, to corn, to. maze, and to agricultural industry, and. also could wipe out your livestock and. causes reproductive damage to human. beings. And so this is the lethality in. terms of the mindset of people that want. to do harm to our country. And this. case, I didn't know, this is one of. those things where I knew it would. garner a lot of attention, but like this.

thing went massive. Like it's. everywhere. And I'm glad it's everywhere. because for me it. highlights the multiple levels of. operation that our adversaries are. looking to do harm on us. Thank god we. caught this one, but what about the ones. we've got to still catch that are still. out there? They're not going to stop. because this lady's in jail now, right? And being prosecuted by us. This is just. the one you caught. This is the one we. caught. So, this is proof that this is. actually an ongoing thing. It's an It's. been an ongoing thing. Just like, you.

know, why are we allowing our. adversaries to buy land around our. military? Just going to ask you that. You know, it's insane to me. It it it's. it's lunacy. Having been the former. chief of staff at DoD and having gone to. a lot of our bases, I I was just like, why is that Chinese CCP establishment. right there? Why are the Russians right. right across the street? Why do they. provide towers for cell phones? So, what. and and that's a trickier issue because. that's not like a federal saw. That's a.

state-by-state issue, you know, and a. lot of states have taken action. I think. the Dakotas are leading the charge up. there by outlawing it and banning it and. saying, "Nope, you can't do this. you. can't buy this because a lot of these. things have third party input. Right. Right. And a lot of these things tr. unfortunately are just about money. Right. They'll sell it to you cheaper. but then they're spying on everybody. Then they're spying on everybody. Here's. the thing like what I ask people in in. because what I get hit with is why. shouldn't foreigners be able to buy land. in America? I'm like are you able to buy.

land in downtown Moscow? Can you guys. buy a farm in China? No. No. So what's. with the desperate treatment? I get that. we're the United States of America and. we want to give everybody a chance and. you gave this kid a chance, but that's. different than literally inviting our. adversaries into our country and saying, "Well, as long as you build X or dump. enough money into your state, we can uh. we can look the other way." So, what can. be done about the land that our.

adversaries own outside of military. bases? Again, it's a it's a state. It's. like every state has to take steps. legislatively in my opinion to either. kick them off, stop the contracts, prevent them from coming in, things like. that. what we can do at the federal. level are things that you've seen um you. know the state department under under. Marco Rubio do revoking visas in certain. places um in certain sectors of the. economy and I think rightfully so. because if you stop the personnel from.

coming in kick them out then who cares. who owns it it's basically a dead sight. that's the vulnerability that we have. for being such a free society is that we. allow foreign nationals to come in and. go go to universities and start and do. research and become the head of these. different departments and they're. constantly reporting back to the CCP or. coordinating with them. Yeah. Or Russia. Yeah. And they're not going to stop. That's the thing with these guys. It's.

just because you take one out unless you. take a whole of government approach, unless you get buying from the American. public. And again, this is one of those. things that you would think is a. national security issue, right? Yeah. But they'll politicize it. They'll. weaponize it. The Post will write about. it one way and it probably won't even. make the headlines in a number of other. outlets because they don't want to talk. about that. Has the New York Times. written about this, Jay? I have no idea. I mean, it seems like something that. everybody should want to know about. If. if a foreign government, an adversary.

government is trying to poison our food. supply and and human beings and affect. the reproductive system, that that seems. like that's that's a bipartisan issue. Yeah. And that's the thing about your. show that that's I agreed that I wanted. to do it is because getting out to a. population that has stopped listening to. mainstream news and reaching out to them. and challenging them with information. and how we're doing things and saying. look this is our priorities this is what. I'm doing right is so hugely important.

because the audience the influence of. that manpower on the electorate is huge. is huge And if we can reach through on. certain some of these issues, then we're. going to win collectively. Like I can. only arrest so many bad guys and we. will. But if we arrest them and people. don't know who we're arresting and why. we're arresting them and what the threat. is, then it almost becomes irrelevant. We're still going to do it. We're not. going to stop. But if we can get more. and more people talking about these.

things and saying look the national. security of our country is of what's. utmost importance to me not who wins the. next election but also we need to work. with our communities to say who's in our. communities. How many registered sex. offenders are there near our schools? Are they violating federal laws? Why. aren't we on um these priorities? And we. need help. We need we need American. buyin to to really accomplish the. mission. I wonder what heavy lifting has.

to be done to separate national security. issues from political issues and for. everybody just to just say listen all. the other stuff that the Democrats. disagree with or the Republicans. disagree with. Put that aside. We should. all be concerned with stopping fentinel, stopping gang members and cartel members. and terrorists from coming into the. country. How that becomes political to. me is just [ __ ] bananas. It really is. crazy because it's just like if one side. supports it, the other side has to be.

against it. And it's and and you give. you raised the reason it's so. politicized and the reason it's so sort. of in many sectors of government is. because of the answer to that question. the leaks from inside of government and. then the spin on that information by the. media is what's causing the most harm in. my opinion um to the American public. What kind of leaks?

Whether it's classified information or. or just leaks about fake news like. people saying, "Oh, so and so hate each. other at the White House. Did you hear. about this meeting they had that never. occurred?" And I was like, "I was in. that meeting. What are you talking. about?" What have you heard like that? you know, what kind of like fake rumors. Oh, so I'll give you an example from. um from actually FBI than the New York. Times. So, which never lies. No, no, of course. No, no, we're relying on them to solve. everything. Um, so we have these uh we.

have a regular drum beat at the FBI. where everybody has a we have a morning. meeting with the heads of our divisions, counter intel, counter espionage, CT, everything, criminal, cyber, so we can. move the machine. And I and I was like. and I did them for a week and I was. like, why do we do these every morning? And the whole place looked at me and. these are career agents and intel folks. like 10, 20, 30 years in the seat. They. go, "Boss, we hate. those. They make us come offline of our.

work. and focus on briefing you rather than. staying on mission and we can come brief. you on our own." So, I chopped it to two. days a week and I cut the time in like. less than half. New York Times puts out. the story. Cash Patel upends, and I'm. paraphrasing, the uh ethos at the FBI. How dare he cut down the morning. briefing cycle? And this is a perfect. example of these people are coming to me.

saying this is what they wanted to do. for years. And I'm working with them to. say that's a good idea. Why don't we do. that? But the Times comes in and kicks. us in the face with this leak. That's. not even true because they go out and. say anonymous source this, retired. person that. It's just one example. It. might it might sound small to you, but. now a reader is going to read that. A. new kid who's like, "Oh, I may want to. join the FBI." and they're going to look. at it and say, "This place is a circus. I don't want to go work there." What do. you mean they they disrupted the morning. meeting? That guy should be getting. briefed six hours a day, right? Uh, you.

know, and I'm like, "No, I want my. agents on mission. I don't need them. briefing me. I can call them. I can talk. to them later." And so, it's just stuff. like that. Since we were talking about. fake news, this is going to come up. because it's been going on since we've. been recording here. Uh, oh, uh, Elon. and Trump seem to be in a bit of a spat. Joe, you want to check the tweet that. Elon just put out a little bit ago? Time. to drop the really big bomb. Donald. Trump is in the Epstein files. That's. the real reason they have not been made. public. Have a nice day. Jesus Christ.

I'm not participating in any of that. conversation between Elon. Have a nice. day. DJD, someone should take his phone. away. They're going back and forth about. different things and Yeah. Listen. Well, he said he was disappointed in Elon. They told him to leave. Jesus Christ. That's a crazy thing to say. How does he. know? Does he know that Donald Trump is. in the Epste files or does he have. access to the Epstein Files? I don't. know how he would, but I'm just staying. out of the Trump Elon thing. That's way. outside my What the [ __ ] are they doing? Uh I know my lane and that ain't it. I. just don't I mean I understand he owns.

Twitter. I think it's bad for your. mental health. I think posting things. public all day and arguing with people. all day is bad for you. Well, you rais a. great point. Sorry to cut you off. Go. ahead. Half of what we have to respond to are. is the click army on social media. Right. Right. And 50% of that plus is. bots. 50% of that plus is bots. But. let's take the other 50% of that is just. constantly pushing out. information to sell t-shirts or.

subscriptions or whatever. Listen to my. show. And then people are like, "Hey, FBI, why. aren't you looking at this thing in. Oklahoma?" And I'm like, "Because it's. fake. I don't have time for that." And. and and so to your point on like social. media does have a great use in terms of. me. And so the reason Dan and I don't do. a lot of media is because we're the FBI. Like let our work speak for itself, right? But we have to find the right. balance of going to do media and posting.

on social media the things we're doing. and keep keeping people updated. And so. that's the delicate balance we're. trying. But what I'm learning is no. matter what you do, it it doesn't. matter. It's going to just. completely not make everyone happy. And. there's no solve for that in terms of. how the FBI. operates. But at the same time, the FBI. won't be thwarted by it. We're going to. keep going. Like I do, you know, I mean,

I've already told you I've been called a. genocidal dictator, which is ironic. since I'm the son of a of a man who fled. a genocidal dictatorship in East Africa. and his parents lawfully immigrated to. this country and had me and now their. kids the FBI director, first generation. Indian kid. Kind of a pretty freaking. cool story. That is a cool story. But. I'm like, that's what me and Dan say all. the time. You can call us whatever you. want. But genocidal dictator like that. you now those words don't mean anything. anymore if you're calling you that. Well, that's what I mean. You're not a. dictator and you're not genocidal. So,

what are you doing tagging both of those. together? What is the proof? And what. does the media do in printing it? It's. that's insane. That's an insane thing. But I think they were given a mandate to. be the attack dogs, you know. I think. they were. And I think during the last. administration, they reinforced that. I. I think I mean just look what happened. with the Hunter Biden laptop story where. 51 former intelligence agents testified. that this Thank you for bringing that up. that tell me about how crazy that is.

So, you want to talk about the ultimate. weaponization and total disinformation. combining forces, right? A week before. the election when Biden and Trump were. running against each other, maybe a week. or two weeks before that, right? A guy. who used to be in the intelligence. community says, "Oh, we got to bring the. Hunter Biden laptop thing into. play." Knowing it was bogus. And they come out and they basically. say the FBI even though knew that Hunter.

Biden's laptop was a righteous piece of. investigatory material and were. examining it and at the time knew that. they were going to work up criminal. leads on it. Sat silent. Put that over. here. The intelligence community comes. in and says, "We got to get this. information out." because the guy who. would end up becoming Biden Secretary of. State was advising him and saying, "Hey, we got to squash this 100 Biden laptop. thing. Let's do the Russia gate play. Let's do the Crossfire Hurricane play.". So, they go to the CIA and they go to.

then director Gina Haspel, who by the. way, there's no coincidence in this. government. Gina Haspel was chief of. Station London when Russia Gate was. launched in London. We can come back to. that. So now she's director of CIA and we're. on the eve of an election and there's. this thing called a pre-publication. process. Uh so like when I had to put my. book out as a government service server. uh ser whatever you call it has to go in. and everybody's got to read it and they.

got to chop it whatever takes forever. even if it's a two-page document. The 51. intel letter was written by these same. people, some of who participated in. Russia gate. And the person that has to. authorize that as a director of the CIA. before it goes public. Do you know how. long she took to authorize the release. of the letter? Knowing the information. in the letter was false, knowing the. laptop with Hunter Biden's information. on it was true and accurate and being. investigated by the Federal Bureau of. Investigation for criminal purposes.

Eight hours. Eight hours. They released. that barrage of disinformation for eight. hours. And what do we do? We've spent. the last four. years proving up, and we've got more. information coming on that, too, proving. up how those former secretaries of. defense, CIA, NSA, deputy directors of. the intelligence community, all came. together to politicize intelligence once. again because they got caught on Russia. gate and don't care. And they wanted.

President Biden to win so badly, they. were willing to lie to the American. people. and they did it again. That is. so insane. It's so hard to believe. because it's so corrupt and coordinated. The fact that 51 people would. be will be willing to do that and. they've doubled down on it. They keep. doubling down on it. How are they. doubling down? In what way? They've been. asked in the years since they've they've. been like, "Hey, actually, do you. remember the time where Hunter Biden got. charged in two separate felony federal. indictments, right, in two different. districts?" And they're like, "No, we.

stand by our miss." Like the people that. signed the letter have said, "We've. stand by it." Guys like Clapper and. Brennan and all these guys, Petta, no. So they stand by the idea that that. laptop was Russian disinformation. And. they know it's not. And these guys who. rose to the highest ranks in government. service won't come off that. perch because the media will allow them. to be propped up. Wow. And it's the. same, look, totally switching gears, but. a similar disinformation tale. January. 6, right? I was chief of staff at uh DoD.

on January 6th. Days before January 6th, I was in the Oval Office with the. president, the secretary of defense, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff on. a foreign. matter. And on that day, he goes, "Hey, you know, how's it looking for. January 6? Do you guys have everything. you need?" And he goes, "I'm going to. authorize up to 10 to 20,000 National. Guardsmen and women if you guys need. them anywhere in the country." The. reason that's important is because we. can't uniformly deploy military in the. United States. That's what the National.

Guard's for. But in order to do that, the president has to one, authorize it, and two, the mayor or governor, so it's. DC, so it's the mayor and the capital. police and the speaker of the house are. in charge, have to request the. deployment of. troops. We went to them days before. January 6. We went to Bowser. We went to. Pelosi. They said no in writing. We were excoriated for it. Your guys are. lying. You didn't offer this up. If you. had been there, this would have never. happened. Well, actually, President.

Trump preemptively authorized 10 to. 20,000 National Guard. And what. happened? I spent the next three years. and hundreds of thousands of dollars in. legal fees, testifying before Congress, proving up just what I had said was the. truth. Then the documents came. We. finally got them out because I know what. we had written. And it showed Bowser in. writing declining National Guard. It. showed Pelosi in writing saying no to. the Capitol police. Don't get the. National Guard. So, they wanted it to be. chaos. Well, that I'll leave for to you.

on that. But what I'm telling you is. they knew they knew what was true. They. knew what was false. And I'm not asking. you to give an opinion on the events of. January 6. But had 10,000 of my guys. been there, do you think it would have. gone differently? Yeah, 100%. They stopped it and they. spent years lying. And now we're still. lying about that authorization even. though we've put it to bed. Like Russia. gate, like Hunter Biden's laptop. 51. intel letter. They keep doing it over. and over again. What about agent. provocators that were involved in in.

January 6th? So what we just released to. Congress was um I think we're still. digging through it is there was a couple. of dozen sources that were involved with. January 6. And so we're getting Congress. those files and the American people are. going to learn the extent of that. We're. doubling down on our investigation on. the pipe bomber because we think it's of. great public importance that someone. almost blew up the headquarters for the. RNC and DNC and oh by the way the vice. president of the United States happened.

to be in the vicinity of that pipe bomb. How did that pipe bomb not detonate? Was. it faulty? Um did they never activate. it? Yeah, it's the latter. And. um and so but we keep going back to. events like January 6 and and I keep. trying to say hey again don't trust me I. was we put out the truth about Russia. gate about 51 intel letter about Hunter. Biden's laptop about the National Guard. on January 6. These are the guys that. are now in charge about these sensitive. issues like the pipe bomber and all this.

information you want. So we're giving. you we're the ones that are reopening. these investigations and doubling down. on them. co origins. We think that there. was definite foul play. But my opinion. is irrelevant. It only matters what I. can show to the American people and. prove. And that's what we're working on. That's why I don't run out there and. say, "Look, we're going to get this guy. We're 100% going to get him. We're. working our butts off to get him." We're. also working our butts off to identify. who brought cocaine into the White House. because when you bring a felony narcotic. into the most secure compound in the. world, I think the world has a right to.

know. Yeah. Is there footage of that? So, we're on Who is like a known guy who. likes Coke who happened to be at the. White House at the same time? Well, again, like let also I don't want to. jump to conclusions because, you know, I've done this for a long enough time. where even the most obvious suspect, you're like, "Well, [ __ ] it wasn't him. It was her, right?" You know, and so. let's do it methodically. We are. It's. of great public. If someone brought. a dime bag of cocaine or however you. package it, I don't know, or or pills of. fentinol into the White House. Now,

yeah. In a Trump administration, what do. you think the media would say? What a. wild [ __ ] doing Coke in the. White House. You know how wild you have. to be? I mean, to be doing lines in the. bathroom of the White House. I I was. like dancing the line when I was using. the bathroom that I wasn't supposed to. use because I wanted to go to the East. Wing and they had a nicer setup and I. was like hiding my badge. That's as far. as I took it. That is It's just such a. crazy thing to do. Like you have to be. completely off the rails where you can't. be on Coke for just a few hours while.

you're hanging out at the White House. You're like, "No, no, no. I need a. little bump. I need a little bump in the. White House." It's crazy, man. And I. would think that like everybody would. get urine tested immediately upon. finding that bag. Well, you you could. have done a lot of things then, but they. didn't. Of course, they didn't want it. I mean, there wasn't even even a. suspect, right? No. For them, they was. like, "Ah, whatever. We're done." And I. was wild. Wild, right? Yeah. And you. know, so it's just you I mean you have.

to my other mission is. to control the things I can control. Was. the bathroom the men's room or the. women's room or was it like an all. gender bathroom where anybody can go. into? You know, I'm not sure. I got I. got to go back. I got to go back and. look. I actually got to go back and. look. But I think when we do these. things and we answer these questions for. the American people, we're restoring the. trust in the FBI. That's what I can. control. That's sorely needed because. when I go around the country, this is. not me saying it or the leadership. saying it. The FBI's credibility took a.

hit because of these actions by these. few people in charge. And we're building. it back. We've done a lot in a 100 days. to get it back. And I think if you wait. for the rest of this year, you're going. to see some massive massive actions. taken over the summer. And our. priorities, and I changed it, our are. sort of our our website or and our. pillars, you know, uphold the. Constitution, defend the homeland, crush. violent crime, and rigorous.

constitutional congressional oversight. so that we restore trust. That's what we. want to do. Now, a lot of people got. pardons, like more pardons, I think, than anyone ever, right? Yeah. Does does the pardon cover like if you. find that Fouchy lied to Congress like. when Rand Paul was talking to him about. gain of function research clearly he was. being deceptive. Mhm. If someone is is. that are they pardoned for that as well. cuz it was like this crazy blanket.

pardon from 2014 forward which I didn't. even know you could do. So I'm the. investigator. So that would be a. decision for the Department of Justice. They'll have to make that. I don't know. the answer to that. We'll in we'll we'll. work it up and we'll say this is what we. found and then legal minds will have to. come in and chop on does this pardon. apply or not. Is that the same sort of. thing apply to the 51 intelligence. agents that lied about the laptop? I. think the same scenario applies to. anyone who got the pardon. I can't. remember exactly who off the top of my. head got it if there was some of them or.

none of them or what happens but that's. never happened before in the history of. the country. So there's literally no. like legal precedent as we say to figure. out how that goes. But what I can do. irrespective of the pardon and how it. applies is produce the information in. the documents. Jeez, what a crazy place to come into. You know, it's a gong show. Is it surprising how dysfunctional it is. to you? Well, I think I I would change.

that a little bit. I think I'm I'm. thrilled at how functional most of the. FBI is. I'm shocked at the levels of depravity. and even me that few in leadership would. do to alter that and then go out into. the public and lie about it. Like you. got James Comey running around and he. can yell at me all he wants and Andy. McCabe can too. This is another perfect. example, right? These two guys used to. run the. bureau. And we had a we had. a guy in Denver without a shirt off.

running around throwing 16 Molotov. cocktails on human beings shouting free. Palestine. I got that information. because I'm the director of the FBI and. I put out a statement because the. American people need to know. We are. investigating this matter as an act of. terrorism. CNN, New York Times come in. and crush us. These guys don't know what. they're doing. How dare they label it as. such? The investigation is still. ongoing. And I said, "Yes, I'm. investigating the matter in which a man.

who was from overseas in Egypt threw. Molotov cocktails at American citizens. at a peaceful rally and screamed, "Free. Palestine." That's what you want your. FBI doing. What you don't want your FBI. doing is having New Orleans in Super. Bowl and having another known terrorist. come in there and run people over and. kill them and then have the FBI go to. the podium and say this is not an act of. terrorism. That is the politicization of. the FBI. That's what we've changed and I.

think the American people are seeing it. and I think our results are speaking to. it. But that doesn't even make sense. that the New York Times would criticize. that and and criticize the description. of it as an act of terrorism when it by. definition is an act of terrorism. But. the action itself, you're throwing. Molotov cocktails on human beings that. are at a political peaceful rally, that's terrorism, isn't it? I mean, what. is terrorism if that's not terrorism? And what I can say, remember, the. charging is for the Department of. Justice partners. What I can say is what.

I'm investigating it as. And that's what. I'm investigating it as because the. facts to that point in time, quickly. relayed to me by our people in the. field, the pros said, "Hey, this is what. we got. This is what happened. Everyone's talking about it. Let's. report out to the American people what. we can responsibly." And that was a. responsible way of doing it. But that's. what I'm saying. These people that that. used to run the FBI are coming in there. and they would have made the same. decisions. It's just the fact that we're. making them and they got fired because. they got caught conspiring against the.

United States of America and weaponizing. the FBI and CNN's given them a platform. They keep crippling this country by. putting out these stupid statements. Uh. or not stupid, these intentionally false. statements to attack us. And again, you. can hit me and Bon all you. We don't. care. We're winning. I I believe we're. winning this fight. We're winning it. because the American people are like, "Hey, that was an act of terrorism. I. hope you get the bad guys. And I don't. know if you just saw, but we also. remember the fertility clinic that was.

bombed bombed in Southern. California. We just busted the. co-conspirator in Poland and brought him. back last night and now he's getting. charged because publicly what we can say. is he procured like something like 45. pounds of ammonium nitrate. So what we're doing is investigating. acts of terrorism as acts of terrorism. and we're utilizing our our authorities. overseas under that to give the American.

people justice. The guy didn't act. alone. What about the shooter? This the. this savage shooter in Washington DC who. comes in and. murders two people for the Israeli. embassy in cold blood. Like just. literally what is it 21? I don't know. how many shots, right? yelling something. free Gaza, whatever. We investigated. that as an act of terrorism because. that's what it. is. That's what the American people. deserve to hear. I'm not saying they. don't have a presumption of innocence. I'm not saying that they're going to be.

convicted at trial. But I'm telling you. as the director of the FBI, what I'm. doing as a number one cop in this. country and who is in charge of. investigations. That's my call to make. and I'll make it every time. I just. don't understand how the media, particularly the the thing in Colorado, how they could print that this is not an. act of terrorism and not diminish all of. whatever credibility they have left. I. just don't understand why they would. even be willing to do that. I think it all goes back to the.

same derangement syndrome that people. have. Yeah. Their hatred for certain. individuals and people who dare to work. in those administrations is so great. that they don't care about the truth. They care about the platform. and they'll go on and they'll be given a. platform on TV or in print media or on. on on other shows and there's a still a.

significant portion of the American. populace that is willing to give them. their ear. That's what I'm trying to. change. We're never going to get. everybody, but if we can get 10% of. them, I think it's a home run. We get. 20, we're totally winning all day long. But it's going to take time. Yeah. I. mean, I know that people are super. Everybody wants OMIC today, right? They. just wanted, you know, they wanted a. quick fix and when you're dealing with. four years of whatever the hell was.

going on and 9 million people being. released into this country and all the. all the stuff that comes with it, it. just would stand a reason. It would take. a long time to unravel all that or to. fix all the problems that were created. That is, man, I hope you clip that and. play that over and over again. That's. what I've been trying to explain to. people. I'm like, we're going to fix as. much as we can, but you guys want. answers yesterday for problems that have. been metastasizing for decades. Also,

you want to have all the information in. place when you finally do go public with. everything where you can't miss things, not cross a tea, dot an eye, and someone. can get off. That and we also twoprong. that is just as equally as important as. the following. We want to fix the. institution so it doesn't happen again. That's the bigger win. Catching the bad. guys is the everyday job. We're going to. do it. Calling out the people who. corrupted the place in the past is. hugely important. But leaving the.

American people, an FBI, a DoD, a. CIA, a functional national security. apparatus is the ultimate is my ultimate. goal. So the apparatus that was in place. before that was so riddled with. corruption, what what do you think. happened between. Trump's between when he was in for the. first term and the the four years? Like. how did it get so bad. in the when when he left? Yeah. When he.

left in the last four years? I mean, I'm. assuming there was always corruption, but why how did it get so bad in this. past four years? because of the the. priorities. They completely shifted the. priorities. Um, but how does that. encourage corruption amongst the top. officials. because the priorities themselves were. corrupt? focusing on DEI and climate. change is a political potshot to. weaponize the Department of Defense and. the intelligence community and the law.

enforcement community to say we're going. to promote you based on your background. and beliefs rather than your ability to. get through the pipeline. You know, another thing we're doing is we're. changing the PFT, the physical fitness. test at the Federal Bureau of. Investigation for new agents and for. current agents because it's wholly. insufficient. I'm not asking you to be a. special forces operator, but I am asking. you to be able to take down a dude. running away from you in a hundred yard. sprint who may be twice your size and. detain him and safeguard the American.

public. And so when you don't focus on. those things for years, years and you. focus on promoting people based on I'm. not here because the color of my skin, but when you do. that, this is what happens. And then. when the media celebrates these these. victories, people are like, "Oh yeah, I'm gonna subscribe to that because I. hate the other side so much, I'm just. going to go along." I don't I honestly. don't believe what most of the people. are putting out there in the media that. they actually believe it. I think they.

are go home at night and they are like, "Yep, we know this is wrong, but we've. made our bed and we are going to sleep. in it every single night and we are not. going to retract." That is such an. insane decision. It's such an insane. decision and again it diminishes the. credibility of an already damaged. organization. Yeah. I mean people now. that people know about Russia gates, they know about the Hunter Biden laptop. story. They know about the steel. dossier. They know about all this [ __ ]. that happened like their faith in media.

over especially after the pandemic. Their faith in media has been. deteriorated so badly that I can't. imagine they wouldn't just for. self-preservation reasons shift course. But they have been a problem they have. been able to persevere in their space. and they're not looking to persevere. anything past that. I mean look at the. the from a monetary standpoint most of. the media has been losing money for. years, right? You know, but they keep.

reporting it. They don't care. Most of. these editors and chiefs at these big. wig operations get blown out the door in. a year or two. New people come in and. buy it. They keep losing money. Most of. these shows on mainstream media, the TV. shows at night, their hosts get fired. every other minute because their ratings. suck. But the institutions themselves. don't care to change. They don't go out. and bring in a Joe Rogan. Um, that would. probably be what it takes in my opinion. to fix something like that. Do you.

imagine? I don't think you should do it. Get the [ __ ] out of here. They would. torture me. It would be horrible. Every. news story I mean then then I mean we. just you see that they're willing to lie. in the news. You see they're willing to. push narratives that just are not true. It's just so hard to imagine how you can. sustain the American people's trust. And. if you don't sustain the American. people's trust, they're you're going to. keep losing money. Yeah, I just I can't. imag I know I know CNN made of some of.

what of a concerted effort to try to be. objective for a while. They brought on. Scott Jennings. They've they've changed. a bunch of things in that regard, but. it's still like some of the the panel. talks they have, you're just like, what. [ __ ] planet are you guys even living. on? Right. And the problems we're. facing, he does a good job of. highlighting. He's like, hey man, these. pro- Hamas positions didn't happen. overnight. They happened because we let. in all these people from all over the. world and they came in and they started. attending our universities and they.

started getting together and they. started seeing in the media that that. was a quote unquote popular thing to do. And then that ethos spread and now look. what we have. We have chaos on college. campuses. We've got lonewolf attackers. We've got terrorists. We've got openings. for our narot traffickers. We haven't. even touched upon what our adversaries. are doing to our cyber infrastructure. I. mean, Salt Typhoon is a massive. telecommunications breach engineered by. the CCP. It's public. It's not. classified. Um, and they literally got.

into our our United States of America's. telecommunications. providers. broken. And we are playing catch-up. These are the priorities we're focused. on. We have solutions for them. They're. they take time. They're not sexy. No one. wants to talk about upgrading the. nuclear arsenal of the Triad. That's not. the sexy thing to talk about, but that's. what we need to do. No one wants to talk. about hardening our infrastructure and. fixing our grid switch system across the. country. You take out one electrical.

grid uh infrastructure plant and you. take out a large chunk of this. country. But when you don't prioritize. those things for years in these last. however many years, then our adversaries. get hip to it and they say, "Hey, there's a vulnerability. Let's double. down." And what our adversaries are. doing, we haven't even talked about the. war and the Hamas and all that stuff. We. don't have to, but they're teaming up. They're saying, "Look, we really don't. like each other, but we don't like. America more. So, why don't we partner.

up? Why don't we use you, the drug. trafficking organizations of Mexico, for. human smuggling? Um, not just drugs. Why. don't we use uh you, Russia, Iran, the. CCP, get together, we'll sell. ammunitions to you because you can't get. them from anywhere else in the world. You don't have access to banks. You. know, the biggest threat we have from a. counterterrorism standpoint is Iran. And. that's why the president's trying to. achieve a peaceful resolution with them. and end this war that Hamas started in.

October um in Israel and. Gaza. And nothing would be a better. solution than a peaceful one to that. because we talked about hostages before. And what did they just report out? Two. more American Israeli citizens bodies. were uncovered yesterday or the day. before. The cost of these wars, people. don't see and feel right away. And. unless you give. them in-your-face 24/7 coverage of.

it, their focus is going to be on what. CNN's talking about and how they're. talking about it. Yeah. And that's. that's part of the shift. And that's. like one of the large reasons I was. like, we have to come on this show. We. have to at least swing at it. I don't. know how many people maybe no one will. watch it. Maybe some people watch it. Oh, a lot of people are going to watch. this. No, but that's not, you know, like. that's not the point for me. Like it's. we just have to try to reach different. audiences. We have to have to have to.

have to try. Yeah. Well, I don't think. people have heard it from your. perspective before like this, especially. over a long form. I know you have a. heart out at 3:00. Yeah. Sorry, it's 3. o'clock now. So, um, thank you. Thanks. for being here. Really appreciate it. And I appreciate you illuminating a lot. of these things that I think very. confusing to a lot of people and I think. you've answered a lot of questions as to. like how long time takes and what the. process is like. But I appreciate. everything you're doing. Means a lot to. me. I can't believe that was two hours. Um that's awesome. Uh hopefully I can.

come back. But look, absolutely. Please. do. Just a just a parting message. Uh if. I may. I appreciate the show and what. you've done and I love seeing you at UFC. fights. I'll see you at one soon. Um, but um, we uh, I just want to say this. for the folks at the. FBI, and I probably should have answered. it when you first asked me. The thing. I'm most proud of is most all of them. They're crushing it. They're crushing. it, and they've been wanting to do it. for so long that.

um, this part, this job's easy. My job's. easy. What they're doing is hard. me. moving people around the country, taking. them from their families, uprooting. them, and everybody's like, "That's the. mission. That's what we're here to do.". And I don't want people to take away, oh, okay, he's bought and sold by. everybody that corrupted the place. If. you look at the show and you look at in. its entirety and don't take clips from. it, you'll see what we're about and. putting the mission first. All right. Thank you very much. Thanks, brother. Appreciate you. All right. Bye,

everybody. Take care. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music].