Joe Rogan Experience #2304 - Gary Brecka
Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe. Rogan Experience. Train by day. Joe. Rogan podcast by night. All day. All right, we're up. Good to see you, my. friend. Wow, that was fast. Good to see. you, too, brother. Do it. We just get. right into it. Dude, you're organized. You're a rare. guest. I actually, you know what? I. normally don't bring notes, but I was. talking to Cali Means on the way over. here. And, you know, we're we're really. supporting Bobby Kennedy's whole Maha,
you know, movement and and uh trying to. officially put a committee together to. to to really give him some great talking. points and then bring some of the big. influencers together to help him. message, you know, around the media. And. I was like, what are some of the wins. that we've had in the last week that I. don't know about? And so, he just. rattled them off and I there's some wins. jotted them down. What are the wins? Well, I mean, um, you know, so Trump. formed this, uh, Strong Kids Commission. and and if you remember when he first. got into office, he actually, um, by. executive order, he authorized Bobby to, um, to do a study with, you know, Health.
and Human Services to to look into the. genesis of chronic disease because. nobody nobody's talking about it, the. National Institute of Health or National. Library of Medicine or in our, you know, public health policy. Nobody's talking. about what's causing this pain. I wonder. why they're not talking about it. Well, I could give you a couple of I. could give you a couple to do with it. No way. You're a conspiracy theorist, dude. You're down the rabbit hole. That's my problem. You think that just. because people get paid, they do things. that are shady. Yeah, I know. That's a.
weird thing to think. I should stop. thinking that way. Yeah. I mean, for you. know, we make $110 billion a year on. type two diabetes. You They're trying to. put that out of business for sure. Yeah. They don't want that money. No, no, no. They're they're like, "Hey, Stan, how do. we get this off the balance sheet, bro? How do we how do we get rid of this? Is. stinking up." There's a business that. relies on people being so disgusting. that they get type 2 diabetes. So bad. with their diet, just eating pie and. drinking soda till their body just. starts to cave in. Yeah. But don't. worry, we got But that's worth how much.
a year? $110 billion. Type two diabetes. A lot of money. It's not like that would. change anybody's opinions on things. Well, I mean, a lot of people could live. on that. There's a lot of people I know. that could live that could live on that. Isn't that funny? A lot of people could. live on what's killing other people. Yeah. Isn't that funny? Like a lot of. people are buying yachts on what is. killing people. Yeah. So, the. interesting thing is is, you know, look. at, you know, our food stamp program, which is, you know, the SNAP program. It's one of the biggest um subsidies. that we have in the government, $120.
billion a year. 10 billion of that is. going to subsidize sodas. I mean, you. need soda. It's it's important part of. the fear food pyramid. I think, isn't it. in there? It's right up there with Lucky. Charms, right? Yeah. Lucky Charms is. above right above ground beef. Yep. And. grass-fed steak. And then you get to the. top and you got and you got soda. It. It's so It's just It's phenomenal. And. then the American Heart Association just. ironically comes out in favor of soda in. the snack food program. And we we went. over that and we found out that they're.
um they're paid by Pepsi and by. Coca-Cola. Wow. It's just so dark. Yeah. It's so it's so crazy. It is American. Heart Association gets money from. Coca-Cola and Pepsi. Yeah. You know, I I. checked into my Airbnb here in Austin, which uh which by the way, love Austin, man. I see I see why you came here. We. covered it all on my podcast, so I I. won't go down that rabbit hole, but it. truly is, man. People are amazing. Uh. food is amazing. Went to this little. restaurant called The Well, which I. love, and they catered all my food. But. there's like a serious wellness vibe.
here. Um but a lot of healthy people. Yeah, a lot of healthy people. So, I. check into the Airbnb and I I go into. the closet, like the owner's closet. wasn't wasn't locked. And I went into. the owner's closet. Of course, it's like. all Cheerios and cookies and crackers. And I I pulled a couple of bottles of. these seed oils out. And I did a little. post about it because I was like, "Look. at all the heartalthy labels on this, right?" And and we talked about seed. oils last time, but it's, you know, and. I and I get attacked a lot for it for. saying that these polyunsaturated fatty.
acids are bad for you, but a lot of. times it's it's actually not the the. plant itself, it's the distance from the. plant to the table, right? You explained. because you were explaining the other. day to us the process that it takes to. turn rape seed oil, which is what canola. canola oil. Joe, if you They said rape. seed was problematic. So, they changed. it to canola oil. I always thought it. was corn oil, but corn's good for you. Corn oil must be great for you. Oh, we're using canola oil. Cool. Peanuts.
Please explain though the process cuz. it's so vile. It's It's insane. So, um, rape seed, uh, canola is, you know, a. plant. We essentially you put it in a. commercial press and it will come out. gummy. And so, to de gum it, you use. something called hexane. and hexane. If. you go to National Institute of Health. or National Library of Medicine, you'll. see that that is a known neurotoxin. It's classified as a neurotoxin. Same as. fluoride, right, which is actually. florosyic acid. We'll get to that later,
but uh so so we de gum it with hexane. And then you take this. deg rancid. I mean, there's no mechanism. on Earth for temperatures to reach that. much, especially plants to encounter. those kind of temperatures. So now it. denatures, it turns rancid. So now you. um it's putrified and it smells. So now. you have to deodorize it. So we. deodorize it with sodium hydroxide. So. we degum it with a powerful neurotoxin. We heat it to 45 degrees and turn it.
rancid. And then we deodorize it with a. very powerful carcinogen. And then in. some cases we bleach it and bottle it. and put it on the shelf. You you ever. look at go to the grocery store and you. you see the. entire grocery aisle. It's it's all. these like wesson oils or vegetable. oils, but they're all exactly the same. color. Like exactly. They have that same. beautiful clear hue. That's how now. nature, you know. No. If you squeezed. 10,000 watermelons into watermelon juice. and put it all on the shelf, they would.
vary a little bit. They would vary a. little bit. Um but there's no variance. there. And so this is chemically. controlled process. And they and it's, you know, again, not it's not back to. the polyunsaturated fatty acids per se. It's these it's the pro-inflammatory. process that they cause these foam cells. and the the inflammation in our arterial. wall which actually cause cholesterol to. the site of inflammation and we blame. cholesterol for a lot of the heart. disease atherosclerosis arterial. sclerosis because it's at the scene of. the crime but it you know rarely pulls.
the trigger. I mean it's cholesterol is. kind of like a fireman right? it it it. gets called to the fire to put the fire. out, right? And so the theory that if we. had fewer firemen, we'd have less fires. It's kind of absurd, right? But that's. theory that's the theory in LDL. cholesterol, it's like it might work in. California. They would I could see them. passing that legislation. You know what we need? We need less. firemen. But but uh you know so the. theory that if we push down the firemen.
which was called to the site of. inflammation meaning we reduce the. cholesterol which was called to the site. of inflammation to cause the repair. rather than ask what started the fire. That notion is about to be I think uh. blown out of the water by by big data. I. think you're going to see big data. artificial intelligence and early. detection in the next 5 years are just. going to going to circumvent the entire. system. Do you think there's a. possibility of removing food oils from. the market?
I don't think that we'll ever replace. food oils, excuse me, seed oils. I I. don't think that will ever replace seed. oils. I think I think what's really. interesting is is the chemical. processing. So, another really good. thing and I'm helping to author this. this paper with uh with Kelly Beans and. and a bunch of other folks uh to present. it to Bobby Kennedy in in looking at the. genesis of chronic disease because if. you just and I know lots of people have. talked about this on your show so I. won't belabor the point but if you look. at the spending of $4.5 trillion a year.
right on healthcare in the United States. and then you say well what do we lead. the world in well as of December 6th we. are ranked 66th in the world in life. expectancy um we lead the world in. morbid obesity. type two diabetes, multiple chronic. disease in the single biome, meaning not. just our population has multiple. different chronic diseases, but multiple. chronic diseases in the same in the same. body because most people don't just have. one autoimmune disease or they're not. just hypertensive and diabetic. They're. hypertensive, diabetic, and hypothyroid.
with an autoimmune, usually multiple. autoimmune. We lead the world in infant. mortality, maternal mortality. Um, and. so you got to ask yourself, how's $ four. and a half trillion dollars a year in. spending leading to these kinds of. consequences? And very often it's. actually not the food, it's the distance. from the food to the table. So it it's. not necessarily the plant, it's what. we're doing to process these plants to. get them on the table. And so I think. what you're going to see is these grass. guidelines generally regarded as safe,
which is essentially how the FDA decides. whether or not you can micropoen the. population. So we are allowed to. micropoen the population, right? We're. allowed to put certain amounts of. pesticides, herbicides, insecticides, uh. preservatives. Um that is a great way of. putting it too. It's micro poisoning. Yeah. Um so that's really what's. happening. That's exactly what's. happening. And and and a lot of experts. will say the dosage determines the. poison. And that's largely untrue when you talk. about cumulative dose toxicity. Meaning.
if I give you this sandwich and you know. this piece of tuna fish and it has a. very small safe amount of lead or. mercury, it's probably not going to hurt. you, right? But if you don't methylate. that metal out of your body and you keep. eating that same kind of fish, I mean, nobody got mercury poisoning from a. single piece of tuna fish. what they got. mercury poisoning from was continuing to. eat the same thing over and over and. over and over again and they got a. cumulative dose toxicity which is what a. lot of foreign countries use. So in.
other words, I can't just say if I put. you know one drop of arsenic in this. glass is that is that going to kill you? It might make you mildly sick, cause an. inflammatory process, maybe it's not. going to kill you. But if you drink one. of those five times a day, seven days a. week, now you're toxic. And that's. what's happened to our country. We. didn't get here quickly. We we we got. here by slowly stacking these. micropoins, right? But is it possible to. change all of like whatever whatever we. use seed oil for. Is it possible to swap.
that out for olive oil or beef tallow or. I know there's some companies doing like. Masa makes these great uh tortilla chips. that are organic. cornowed beef like it too. Like you feel. like you're eating food. Yeah. You know, we talked about those Vanry chips, too. Vandy Vandy chips. I love those. I do. too. It's just potatoes and beef tallow. with a little salt. And they're [ __ ]. And it tastes like food. Like when I eat. them, I don't feel like a piece of [ __ ].
Like if I if I eat a bag of Doritos, I. feel like a [ __ ] loser. You know, even while I'm eating, I'm like, "Oh, you loser. Shut up. I'm shut up. These. are delicious." You shame yourself. You're like, "Chill, I'm so disappointed. in you." But isn't it possible to just. replace those or would it require is it. one of those things like there there's. an issue with factory farming. Everybody. thinks factory farming is disgusting. when it comes to animals. It's it's vile. what they do to chickens and pigs. But. is it possible to give everyone.
cheeseburgers in food deserts without. factory farming? Like have we have we. gotten so far ahead of ourselves that we. don't have sustainable regenerative. agriculture as an option? I don't think. so at all. So you think that all the. foods, all the salad dressings and all. the French fries and all the things that. are cooked in food oil, we have enough. beef tallow, we have enough olive oil, we have enough avocado oil that we could. switch all those things out and.
everything would be great. There is no. question that we have the capacity to to. produce these and we have the capacity. to produce them now. I mean a lot of. these farms uh don't use the bones from. these cattle. They don't use the hide. from these cattle. They don't boil on. the collagen from these cows and they. certainly are not making the tallow from. the fat from from the cattle that are. being slaughtered. So there's a lot of. tallow that's going to waste. A lot of. tallow, a lot of bone broth, a lot of a. lot of bones, a lot of cartilage. Um you. know that that's entirely going to. waste. And and if you look at a lot of. countries, they will use the entire.
animal. They'll boil down the bones. They'll they'll use the hide. They'll. use the bone marrow. And it's kind of. crazy because there's a big market for. bone broth. There's a big market for. beef tallow. Like why wouldn't they? I. mean, they're just wasting money. I. think I think you have the perception. that there's a big market for because. you're kind of in the no, right? You're. probably in the I hate to use this term, but woke 1%. If you he went he went into. He's like, he called me woke. That. sounds It used to be cool. When I When I.
mean woke 1% I mean I hate that word. woke. Well, it's the You're using it the. correct way though. You're using it the. way African-Americans used to use it. Black people used to call woke like. you're awake. I'm woke. You can't sneak. that stupid [ __ ] by me. I'm woke. Right. You know, and then the [ __ ] white. people took it over and ruined it. Like. a lot of things. Exactly. Did we Did we. [ __ ] that up? Not us. Not us. But uh the. ones with blue hair. Yeah. Now, now woke. me is a whole different whole different. body. Well, now it's essentially a.
pjorative. They can't even use it in a. positive way, you know? It's that that's. beaten down. But I like it because it's. kind of like you can just be triggered. about anything now. So, it's so. convenient. Yes. You know, cuz I can. really silence you if you start out like. out intellectualizing me. I can I can. just be like, "Dude, you're you're. you're triggering me. You're hurt you're. hurting my feelings. You trigger me with. information." I kid you not. I've never. talked about this for I'm probably going. to lose half my audience, but no, I I I. was I went to Harvard University um for. this thing uh this longevity summit.
through a very good friend of mine. I. won't mention his name because then I'll. give away the event that I was at. I. called my wife on day two and I was. like, "Babe, I feel like I landed on. Mars." I go, "I got to get out of here.". And she goes, "What is going on?" I. said, I just listened to a panel of PhDs. for 4 hours debate about whether or not. a microaggression is something that. could happen to you that you don't. recognize that was causing a micro.
trauma that the other person didn't. realize they were doing, but it was. still creating an unsafe environment. I. think there should be mandatory. jiu-jitsu classes for those people. Mandatory jiu-jitsu. My head was so. twisted when they your micro trauma. Yeah. When they passed the microphone to. me, I got so much trouble. And I won't. say his last name, but Daniel, he's he's. still mad at me right now because of. this. They passed the microphone to me. They're like, you know, do you have. anything to add to the conversation? I. go, "This sounds like a bunch of people, this whole this whole panel up here. You.
guys sound like you boarded a spaceship. and literally left mother earth because. I have no idea what you're talking. about. You were talking about trying to. identify something that you by its very. nature say you don't know if you have it. or you don't. So let's just admit that. it's a ghost. So how are we going to we. can't measure it. We can't find it. We. can't prove you have it. We can't prove. you don't have it. So how are we going. to treat it? What's this culture of. victimization and the monetization? It's. like there's a there's status in.
victimization. You know that's the. thing. They've they've essentially made. it like a virtue to be a victim. So, you're looking for little things that. have possibly I believe there was a. microaggression. I believe I I think you. know what? I think I felt it. I possibly. rolled his eyes. I possibly rolled his. eyes. I mean, that is going to haunt me. I need therapy now. I think he might. have rolled his eyes and that's. absolutely acceptable. That is a. microaggression. Like maybe rolling your. like you say something to me and I go, "Okay." And I leave. Oh my god, that was.
a microaggression. But what I just did. going, okay, but here's the. microaggression is you're kind of off. the hook because if you didn't. intentionally create the. microaggression, I just perceived it as. depends on who I am. If I'm a white. heterosexual cis male, then you're. screwed. I got problems. Then you're. screwed. So anyway, back to the food. supply. We took a took a U-turn there. for a second. Um what's really. interesting is if you just take a very. uh 30,000 foot view and you say let's.
let's just look at the broad strokes on. the blue zone research right there's no. continuity between diets in these blue. zones so it's not keto paleo pescatarian. vegan vegetarian um you know raw food. atkins it's it's whole food just what. you were just saying you know whole food. and a lot of healthy lifestyle whole. food well the two things that were non. non-inchangeable were sense of purpose. and community and activity until later. in life. So, you didn't have any of the. blue zones where people didn't feel a. sense of purpose and community in life. In fact, there were no no such things as.
uh assisted care living facilities. You. know, the assisted care in those. countries as mom and dad move back in. with kids until until the day that they. right till the day that they die. And. there's a lot to be said for that. because maybe grandma's only purpose is. to go out and get um vegetables for. dinner that night, but she has a purpose. and she's a part of the community and. she's not locked up in a home with a. bunch of people don't really care about. her. Yeah. You know, we knew something. in in the mortality space because I I. used to study mortality um and mortality.
research and we knew that if you wanted. to cut somebody's life expectancy in. half at any age, and I mean at any age, you put them in isolation. M so as soon. as you create. isolation you dramatically reduce if not. half the life expectancy. Now later in. life we would call this broken heart. syndrome uh caregiver syndrome and these. were actually very valid syndromes. So. if we actually were doing the the life. expectancy on an elderly spouse who was.
still applying for insurance or we were. looking at what's called a second to die. claim on on on life insurance policy and. one spouse had passed away. we would. dramatically reduce the life expectancy. of the second spouse and the reason why. that's important is I think that people. don't realize that we are actually being. isolated in plain sight right I mean we. are trying to create connection through. our phones we're trying create. connection through social media and. these are not human connections in fact. you know if you look at the rates of. depression suicide suicidal ideiation.
obesity um you know chronic mental. illness and I think we actually have a. chronic lack of mental fitness not. necessarily a mental illness crisis in. this country. And if if you look at the. skyrocketing rates of these conditions. and how they are creeping into younger. and younger and younger generations, you. got nine-year-olds being treated for. depression now, right? Um so what what's. happening what's happening is isolation. in plain sight. You know, we we don't. problem solve anymore. We don't have. communities with our friends anymore. We.
actually don't build social connections. We've lost our connection to to mother. nature. You know, that's why I like. going out to my place in Colorado. I was. probably like, "You like bow hunting?". It's just old school connection to. mother nature. And how freaking good do. you feel? Yeah, it's very, very good. I. really wish I lived in nature. I'd. really like to be living in the woods. again. I'm working on it, man. Well, you. said you're trying to get, you know, get. something outside of town like I think. that's kind of Yeah, I think I think. nature is a vitamin. I really do. I I. think it's a mental health vitamin. I.
think there's something about being in. nature. There's a feeling you get. especially when your phone doesn't work. When you get out there and you look at. your phone, like zero bars. No. Yeah. And you're out there in like real woods. It's just like you just feel better. You. just feel like more tuned in. You hear. birds and branches snapping, things. going on, coyotes, and it's like, god. damn, it feels good. We had this place. in Colorado. Um, my wife and I, which. she's been going to for 35 years, since. she was a little little girl. when when. we got together 10 years ago, she. started bringing me and my family out.
there and her her father's got 10 acres, her her uncles got 10 acres, and then. this 50 acre piece came on the market. So, we we we bought it and we're. building these old school like really. authentic log cabins on there. And I I I. write about this all the time because in. Miami, I have this really fancy place. and I've got all this fancy equipment, you know, red light therapy beds, hyperbarics, hydrogen beds, all that. stuff. But I'll go out to this Colorado. home, put on a 20 pound rucks sack. I. know you do 150 pound rucks sack, so I.
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plan features and network management. details. Sometimes I do it and I carry. two 50 lb kettle bells. Oh [ __ ] No, I. really I'm not even telling the rest. These are just short bursts. This is not. like long distance, you know? It's just. I just do it to tax my system. Well, I. do farmers carries, but I do that, too. Yeah, farmers carries. I actually like. that. That's what I mean by that. I I. think farmers carries like suitcase. carries are actually better, you know, one hand. One hand. Oh, one hand. Yeah.
Because then it makes you balance on the. other side and then you swap it out to. the other side. It's a stabilization. thing. I've heard from people that it's. it's actually better. Actually, that. makes a lot of sense to me because uh. you know, you're not just you're not. just loadbearing the spine, which is why. I don't squat. But farmers carries are. amazing, too. There's nothing wrong with. it. Yeah. And I do a lot of farmers. carries. But I'll put on this 20 pound. rucks sack, go out by myself, put a. sidearm, you know, in my in my, you. know, vest and go. It was just kind of. funny. I took a picture of myself in the. woods the other day, posted on social. media, and I had sidearm people went.
bananas. Uh cuz I have a gun. Yeah, you. don't want to get eaten by a mountain. line. It does happen. It probably won't. happen, but guess what? If I have a gun, it's not going to happen. I just feel. Yeah, it's never going to happen. [ __ ] great video of a bow hunter who. is being attacked by a mountain lion and. the mountain line is like creeping up on. him slowly. He's like, "Hey, get back. Get back. Get back." And you see the. thing lock on him and start closing in. It's like 15 ft away and then bang. And.
then you see the thing twitching. It's. got a hole in its face. He was a boat, but he had a pistol on him. That's why. he had a pistol on him. Yeah, it happens. in Colorado. I mean, bear attacks. I. mean, it [ __ ] happens. Bear attacks. are fairly rare in Colorado. You know, it's only when you cross the Apparently, if you just come upon the cubs and the. and the mother. The real issue is not. the bears that are in Colorado, though. The real issue is the bears in Wyoming. and Montana, the brown bears. Brown. bears are what you have to worry about. Black bears, not as much, but but. occasionally like a big black bear will.
will go after people. Yeah. But anyway, I take a sidearm and I and I'll march. around in there. But but when I'm done, I feel like I took a limitless pill. Mhm. Just something. I totally agree. with you. Something out there. And I got. this little squirrel. It's so funny. I. mean, I I leave my house and start. climbing up in the woods. I have this. little four mile kind of track. And. there's a squirrel. I don't know if. it'll be there this year, but every year. that I go out there and he and he barks. at me, right? And he kind of growls. It. doesn't sound like a squirrel. Sounds. like a little bark. And then he chews. acorns off and grabs them with both.
hands and throws them down on me. And. it's so funny. And he'll follow me from. limb to limb. I [ __ ] you not. And I look. forward to seeing him every day. Like I. I feel like he's pissed off. Maybe it's. a sign of love. I don't know. We have. It's definitely pissed off. He doesn't. love you. Yeah. Somebody probably hunted. one of his family. We'll take a sidearm. People do hunt squirrels. You know, they. eat them. But but in any case, man, I. feel I feel amazing. So, um but you. know, you're right that you know, at. some point we have the capacity to.
replace these um these oils. we actually. have a way to get, you know, back away. from industrial farming and get back to. local farming. You know, there's a I. have a very good friend named Alfie Oaks. and he owns one of the one of the more. profitable grocery stores in America. It's in it's in Naples, Florida called. uh Seed to Table and he took me out by. helicopter one time and we hopped around. to a bunch of his organic fields. He's. got thousands of acres in the middle of. the state of Florida. And he showed me.
how he's not only able to grow produce. um for less money than he would. organically for less money than he would. grow it if he had to use herbicides and. and pesticides and and chemicals. He's. able to pick it at 9:00 in the morning. and have it on the grocery store shelf. by 2:00 in the afternoon. And I watched. the whole process go down. Thousands and. thousands of these acres. And you know, white flies are the the pest flies. they're trying to avoid. Instead of. spraying for these white flies, what.
they do is they just use this reflective. cellophane. They run it down the rose. crops and it creates this reflection and. it scatters them to the woods. And so. now the white flies are not eating the. crops. There's no herbicide. There's no. pesticide sprayed on these. There's no. no preservatives. His his team picks. this stuff by nine o'clock in the. morning. It goes into a processing. center. And by processing, I mean it. gets washed. That's it. And then it's on. a truck and it's on the shelf by two. o'clock in the afternoon. So you can. grab a strawberry in this grocery store.
and eat it and it was growing at 9:00 am. that morning. And there are, you know, there are mechanisms for us to do that. Yes, I get some some stuff needs to be. shipped and and and stored. Um, but most. regenerative farming practices are not. only green and good for the environment, they're economically feasible. They. actually make economic sense. And you. know when he talks about the fact that. we've been spraying some of these fields. for so many decades with or so many. years with these uh herbicides and.
insecticides that there is not a pest. for in some cases hundreds of miles but. we are still spraying for those pests. He's like you got to start to question. what the motivation is. Yeah. Yeah. Probably financial and. probably financial. Yeah. And you know. it's what we're talking about. You said. something earlier interesting that you. think it's not what was the term that. you used. It's not a mental health. problem. It's a lack of mental strength. Mental fitness. Mental fitness. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, if you think about it, you. got any of those hydrogens? Yeah. Yeah. You want baby? Come on. Is there H2? I love these. I'm addicted. I love. these, too. Yeah. Um, explain to people. what these are instead of So, hydrogen. gas. I mean, this is probably my. favorite biohack in the world because. it'll cost you about a dollar a day. Um, these are called. H2Tab. Um, you can get them at drink. h2tab.com. You can actually read the. science on it. I think there's two two. people in the world now. I mean, those.
that have read the science and take. hydrogen gas, drink hydrogen water, and. those that don't um or or just haven't. read the science because hydrogen gas, first of all, is a it's it's the. lightest element in the universe. It's. also the most prevalent element in the. universe. 10% of your body weight is. hydrogen I think. In fact, if you took. hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, and nitrogen, that's 96% of your mass. Okay, those. four uh elements. So, hydrogen's about. 10% of your body weight. And and. hydrogen is not just an antioxidant, it's a selective antioxidant, right? So,
if you look at oxidative stressors like. nitric oxide or super oxide or hydrogen. peroxide, okay? So, all of these these. these oxidative stressors, they can be. good in certain amounts. You need a. certain amount of nitric oxide, right, in your body, but but too much nitric. oxide is bad. Too much hydrogen peroxide. bad, too much super oxide is bad. So, if. you were to take an antioxidant like. vitamin C, um, and take very, very high. doses of antioxidants, this can be very.
bad for you because you're suppressing. too much oxidation in the body. You're. actually suppressing these oxidative. stressors too much. Hydrogen on the. other hand uses the body's homeostatic. process to suppress inflammation. So in. other words, it it it works through. something called the NRF2 pathway. It it. it affects a protein called NRF2 which. moves into the DNA, binds to the DNA, and then the DNA spits out the. instructions for catalase, superoxide.
dismutase, and glutathione. So in other. words, you're actually using the body's. regulatory system to actually control. inflammation instead of externally. trying to control inflammation. And then. and the second thing it does is it it. targets the only oxidative free radical. that I think all of the science points. to as as uh which is hydroxal radical uh. having no use in the body. So it. selectively targets that and regulates. the rest of the inflammatory process by. using the body's homeostasis. So.
in I guess a very long- winded way of. saying that hydrogen gas can go anywhere. in the body. It reduces inflammation, improves circulation, improves memory. There's really interesting study. published on um uh the journal of uh. experimental gerontology and it was. published in November of 2021. Um, and. most, you know, these clinical research. studies, they'll look at younger. populations, like healthier, younger. populations. But this actually looked at. a six-month study on hydrogen water.
versus non-hydrogen water in 70-year-old. and older folks. And they use something. called TET 2 to measure in uh. methylation. They measured cognitive. function, sleep scores, sitst stand. ratios, how well they're able to sit and. stand, telomere lengths in their. chromosomes. And and the really. fascinating thing about this study is it. done during COVID. So these seniors were. basically imprisoned, right? So they. were not mobile. Um and the only. difference between the groups that they.
that they controlled for was the. presence of hydrogen water. At the end. of the six-month period during the. lockdown, the non the control group had. lost 11% in their telomeres. the. non-control group had gained 4%. They. had better short-term recall, better. cognitive scores, um, uh, better. circulation, improvement in cardiac. markers, improvement inflammatory. markers like C reactive protein. I think. it's I think it's the greatest biohack.
on earth. And that and like some sea. salt and some amino acids like a perfect. amino. I mean, just covering your bases. I think those are those are your. foundational basics for for optim and. it's like delicious. Comes good flavors. and it's easy to drink. It's like a. painfree thing that you can do. You can. bathe in it, too. You can actually bathe. in hydrogen gas. How many tabs you put. in the water? You can you can actually. put what's called a hydrogen bomb, which. is looks like a big bath bomb. It just.
creates hydrogen gas. It's elemental. magnesium. What does it do for you when. you bathe in it? It goes right. transermal. Goes right through the skin. So, remember hydrogen is is the smallest. lightest element that we know of, right? So, it go it will go right transermal. And these um hydrogen gas will form in. between water molecules. So a water. molecule is H2O but hydrogen gas can. actually exist outside of the water. molecule. And when you put excess. hydrogen gas into the water, it will go. right transder dermal. And you know, I.
have two of these bass at my house. I. never talk about it like on social. media, so I guess I'm about to talk. about it now. But um I have literally. put people into these tubs. I'm I'm. kidding you not. crippled with arthritis. and they will skip out of my unit like. they won the lottery. It's incredible. I. mean, so transder dermal reduction of. inflammation in joints from these. hydrogen bombs. Mhm. How long does it. last? Or from a hydrogen bath. You can. get these You can get these machines. I. mean, one for your house is about 7,500.
bucks, 8,000 bucks. Um, they make some. that make nano particles or nano. bubbles, which are about 1500th the. diameter of a human pore. So, if you run. these things on your face, it'll. actually push all the sebum out of your. skin, it'll get rid of dandruff, psoriasis, eczema. Um, if you have any. kind of inflammatory condition like. knees, hip, shoulder, rotator cuff, arthritis, low back. Um, bathing in. hydrogen gas can be one of the most. therapeutic things that you do. Really, can you add it to a cold plunge? You can. add it to a cold plunge. And what's.
interesting about adding it to a coal, in fact, I use this cold life coal. plunge and I've got these guys um trying. to see if we can incorporate the. hydrogen gas into the coal plunge. So, where the where the motor pulls the cold. water out, it's going to send it into a. hydrogen generator and then push it back. into the tub because as the temperature. drops in water, you can saturate more. gas. So, so a 48 degree, quote me. exactly on this, but a 48 degree cold. plunge will hold about twice as much gas.
as. 102°ree, you know, warm tub. So, if you. were like taking like a warm bath, right? So, you're going to be cold. plunging for 3 to six minutes every day. or, you know, that's what you and I do, you might as well be in there with. hydrogen gas. And so, I'm I'm I'm. working with these guys from Cold Life. to see if we can plum these um hydrogen. generators. And basically it's it. creates the hydrogen gas by by taking um. distilled water and breaking distilled. water apart and then throwing the gas.
into the water. And it is noticeably. different when you bathe in this gas or. not. Like I had Sean Ryan over to my. house um for a podcast one time and you. know he's all banged up from being a. Navy Seal and you he's got nips and. bibbles all over his body and he just. thought it was really weird because I. was like dude you got to get my bathtub. This episode is brought to you by Me. Undies. Some things are complicated. The. human mind, relationships, life. But.
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in. He's talked about it before. Sean, big shout out, brother. Um, but he was. like, he's like, "Dude, I I just met. you, man." And I was like, I go, "No, it's okay. I'm not gonna get in there. with you, right? I'll sit on the chair. outside the tub." He's like, "That. freaks me out a little bit. I'm going to. be honest with you." I said, "Dude," I. gave him a pair of shorts. So, uh, cuz I. was like, "Do you, does anything on your. body hurt? Did you, you know, your. knees, your hips, your shoulders? Does. anything hurt?" And he's like, "Dude,
[ __ ] everything in my body hurts.". So, I was like, "Get in there, man." And. um I put him in there for 25 minutes. He. said it was like the first time he had. slept eight hours and woken up without. pain in probably 15 years. Wow. Yeah. Jon Jones, same thing. You know, I mean, Jon Jones has been very public about uh. when I, you know, working with me. I. haven't I I haven't uh talked to him in. a little while, but right before his. last fight. Um I brought him one of. these hydrogen machines to bathe in. Uh. and we just set up the the the tub at.
his house and we ran hydrogen gas into. the tub. So we would do red light. therapy. Um he would drink hydrogen. water and um and he would bathe in this. uh hydrogen gas. And it was about 15 or. 20 days after I kind of parachuted into. his camp and and uh and set all this up. that he texted me. He was like, "Holy. [ __ ] brother. I can't believe I'm, you. know, I'm out of pain. I'm adding a six. day to my training routine. Wow. I'm. waking up not in pain. You know, I'm. sleeping better." Um, so it's it's.
really incredible what hydrogen gas can. do in the body. And don't don't take my. word for it. I mean, there's there there. actually is a really interesting study. published by Dr. Learon, Tyler Learon. He's a PhD uh and he actually I think. his PhD is in molecular hydrogen. So I. should tease him about where his life. went wrong that he got a PhD in. hydrogen. But where did you bang a left that you. decided I'm going to get a PhD in. hydrogen? But he published a study. looking at um uh electrolyed alkaline.
water. um and and when they removed the. hydrogen gas all of the benefits of of. alkaline water went away. So the. benefits from alkaline water are coming. from the excess presence of hydrogen gas. and um even when you add hydrogen gas to. regular water it will drop the OP it. will make the oxidative reduction. potential negative. So it, you know, has.
more of a capacity to donate uh. electrons. So I just think it's a a. phenomenal discovery and it's dirt, it's. dirt cheap. When you were telling me. that these bottles, water bottles that. generate hydrogen, they're great in the. beginning, but that over time they. deteriorate. Does this with the same. issue happen with the hydrogen. generators that you would use for the. cold plunges? Um, you know, they're a. lot more robust. They're a commercial. generator, so they're they're not. actually working under pressure. So, the. water flows through these. So, a lot of.
the ways that you um create high part. per million hydrogen gas in in these um. water bottles. And and I I actually just. won I'm about to to to uh put a press. release out about it. I actually just. won a $16 million civil judgment against. a a a fake hydrogen water bottle company. that used my name, image, and likeness. to run a bunch of ads and sold tens of. millions of dollars in these bottles. Um, but essentially at the bottom of. these bottles, there's something called. a proton exchange membrane. And this.
proton exchange membrane comes in. contact through with the with the water. through through electrolysis and it. creates the hydrogen gas. The problem. with these bottles is that this. electrolysis process if you put tap. water in there and use chlorine can. actually create chlorine gas. Um you can. also create something called. hypocchloric acid. Um, so what happens. is over time the bottles that I tested. because I used to be a huge fan of these. bottles um and I carried them everywhere. and I would notice that that it didn't.
bubble as much you know four or five. months after I I you know had this had. the bottle and so I sent it to a uh be. tested and lo and behold um you know. these proton exchange membranes break. down over time. So the first time you. use the bottle, you're getting very high. part per million hydrogen. Four or five. months later, you're getting almost. none. Maybe six months later, you might. be getting zero. Could you just swap out. the membrane and continue to use the. same bottle or would you have a new. bottle? They don't they don't send you a. new proton exchange membrane. Now, some.
of them you can screw off the bottom and. they theoretically could send it to you, but but they're expensive. They're like. 250, 300 bucks. I mean, an an H2 tablet, like a hydrogen tablet will cost you a. buck a day, right? gives you more and it gives you a higher. part per million than almost all those. bottles and it's consistent. It's high. it's highdosese hydrogen gas that's. exactly consistent. So every single time. I put one of those tablets in the water. It's just it's a consistent dose of. hydrogen gas. And I used to get a lot of.
[ __ ] online because I was promoting. these bottles so heavily because I. believed in them um tremendously. But. you know the average person's like out. of pocket 250 300 bucks, right? So this. is a lot more financially cost. effective. So with the cold plunge thing. you're saying so because it's a. commercial unit it would work. differently and it'd be more robust. Well it's not using pressure. Okay. Right. It's so it's it's circulating. through this machine and it's creating. you know using electrolysis and creating. the hydrogen gas going back into the tub.
because you don't need you're not trying. to drink a therapeutic dose. You're. trying to bathe in a dose. You don't. need as high part per million. So you. don't need the pressure. But the really. cool thing is because if you do it in a. cold plunge, um, and when I pull this. off, I'll send you one. Uh, if you do it. in a cold plunge, because you know, as. the temperature drops, the more you you. can do dissolve more gas in that volume. of liquid. So ideally, you would have. the hydrogen generator outside of your.
coal plunge, let your coal plunge run. and fill with hydrogen gas, and then you. you're getting in there for the. anti-inflammatory response anyway a lot. of times, plus the brown fat activation. and cold shock protein release and all. peripheral vasoc constriction, all of. that. But you would now be exposing. yourself to um very high doses of of. hydrogen gas. You'd feel amazing getting. out of there when I when I bathe in that. hydrogen gas. So, my wife Sage um had a. really bad car accident right right. before we met 10 years ago and she um.
severely uh damaged her spine, her her. L5S1 and ended up having to have a. spinal fusion. And so her L5S1 is is. fused. And even though she's thin, she's. fit, she she uh gets a lot of low back. pain. And when her back pain flares up, there's no chance she's sleeping. But. when we put her into that hydrogen nano. bath, I mean, 25 minutes in there, she. sleeps like a little baby. And it's very. calming, too. It's that shifting you. from that sympathetic state, that kind.
of fight or flight to that. parasympathetic state of rest and. digest. You can feel that the effects of. that hydrogen gas when it goes. transermal and starts to relax you, you. know, feels feels good. Well, it seems. like the more effective way is to do it. in a warm tub, though, because you can. stay in there for longer. So you'd get. more exposure. So you get you would get. less hydrogen but more exposure than the. threeminute coal plunge. Yeah. I mean I. I I this is where you know I I I'd like. to see some data which I don't have. So.
I do know that if you if the water is. colder you're going to you're going to. dissolve more gas because you're so. you're going to have a higher part per. million in cold water than you are in. warm water. But then you got to look at. what's happening in warm water. You're. probably having your pores are dilated. You've got a little vaso dilation. You. probably have better surface circulation. in your skin. So you might be actually. carrying more of the hydrogen through. the skin. I don't know. Um versus when. you're in a cold plunge, you're going to. have that peripheral vasoc constriction. You're still going to get hydrogen. through the skin because it's a higher. it's a higher dose. Um but I don't have.
any clinical data to say that one is. better than the other. Have you done the. cold plunge hydrogen? Oh yeah, 100%. I. mean I You did it with a bath bomb? I. did it I didn't do it with a bath bomb. I did it with a the one in my uh house. that actually have three of these. machines. Um, I did it with the one in. my house that recirculates it. You throw. a hose over one side and and it sucks. the water out of your coal plunge and. then you uh throw a hose over the other. side and it puts the hydrogen gas back. in. How long does the process take to.
hydrogen? I let it I let it run for like. 15 or 20 minutes cuz I wanted it to be. really saturated and the water looks. kind of milky. In fact, I did it um I. had Laura Trump over for uh we we shot. this Fox News uh uh event on or for her. show for her Laura Trump show and and I. did it for us to do this coal plunge. shoot. Um I added the hydrogen gas to. the to the coal plunges before we got in. there. Felt amazing getting out of. there. Now I'm trying to actually plum.
it right into the coal plunge so it's. just in line. So it just runs either all. the time or I can turn a valve and turn. the hydrogen gas on and have the gas go. into the go into the coal plunge. So. that's the next thing. But right now for. people, you can just go get these. hydrogen bath bombs. You can get these. hydrogen bath bombs. Where where would. you get one of those? Um drink H2 tab. drink h2tab.com. Okay. All right. Yeah. If you go there, you can get the bath. bomb. I mean, try it. I mean, just throw. one of those bath bombs in there and and.
feel how much different your body feels. when you're bathing in hydrogen gas. It's it's incredible. Um I I I really. feel like it is one of the best hacks. that so few people are using. I mean, so. many people are on anti-inflammatories. So many people are suffering from. inflammation not just neural. inflammation in the brain um but. non-specific markers of inflammation. like C reactive protein homocyine that. are causing all kinds of havoc I mean. you think about the fact that about 70%.
of our circulation is is not done by our. heart right our heart circulates about. 30% of the blood in our body but the. other 70% of the circulation is is a is. an activity called vasom motor or. vasomotion right think of a snake. swallowing a a mouse. And we don't really cater to this part. of our circulatory system even. Explain. what you're saying. A snake swallowing a. mouse. So, so, so think of a snake. So, so if the heart doesn't. circulate roughly 70% of the blood in.
our body, um, how is that circulation. occurring? Because obviously blood is. still moving. You have about 63,000. miles of blood vessel in your body. Um, and so there is that your heart is not. strong enough in a single contraction. Your left ventricle, your heart that's. ejecting that blood is not strong enough. to push the blood through 63,000 mi of. vessel. And so how does the majority of. this circulation occur? Well, the.
majority of our circulation is. microvascular, right? So the. microvascular circulation does not move. blood by pressure. It moves blood by. something called vasom motion or vasa. motor. And the best way I can describe. vasom motion or vasa motor is to think. of a snake swallowing a mouse. The. reason why I say that is because there's. no pressure coming in the the front of. the snake. Right? It's not it's not. being pushed down the snake's throat. It's being muscularly moved down the.
snake's throat. So it's a wavelike. motion, right? It's a it's this um uh. wavelike motion called vasom motor or or. vasom motion and vascular laxity how the. laxity that's in your vessels matters. your blood viscosity matters and. inflammation matters. This is why when. you look at the percentage of high blood. pressure diagnoses, for example, if you. were to just Google what percentage of. hypertension, primary hypertension, essential hypertension, um or you know,
uh uh high blood pressure is idiopathic, right? Of unknown origin, you'd see that. 85% of all high blood pressure, hypertensive diagnosis are idiopathic. We don't know the origin. And so we. examine these people's heart, EKG, EEG, um, heart sounds, lung sounds, maybe a. die contrast study, maybe a CT. angiogram, maybe a, you know, some other. kind of diagnostic heart imaging. We. can't find anything wrong with the. heart. And we medicate the heart anyway,
generally for a crime it's not. committing, when there's an 85% chance. it's actually something other than the. heart. And we never look to the. microvascular circulation. We never look. to the 70% of our circulation that's. actually not done by our heart. What are. we doing to cater to that 70% of our. circulation? Well, um things like. resveratrol, uh hydrogen gas, um. lowering our homocyine, which is for. most people is very simple to do. I use. an amino acid called trimethylcine, um uh to to help people metabolize.
homoyine because there's microvasculare. is very susceptible to high levels of. homoyine. And there's so many people. that have um. ailments that are consequences of poor. circulation and we're treating something. completely different. So for example um. poor focus and concentration um um um. lots of autoimmune conditions. If you. look at the circulation in the brain, liver, lungs, pancreas, kidneys, you'll.
see that the majority of this. circulation is microvascular. You know, I I've talked about why why you and I. both had a positive experience, for. example, with red light. Um, what is red. light doing to our eyes? Is it fixing. the rods, the macula, the cones, the. retina? Was there something damaged that. red light fixed? No. It just restored. healthy vasa motor activity to the back. of your eye, which is why I never wear. protection in a in a red light bed. Now, am I saying red light bed is going to. cure your eyesight? No. Get so beat up for that. But red. light therapy is extraordinarily good.
for vasa motor circulation. Why? Why do. you think it improves your skin, the. collagen, the elastin, the fibbrin? Why. do you think it reduces fine lines and. wrinkles? Why does it improve um why can. it improve uh our eyesight? Because it. restores healthy vasa motor activity. And there's so much vicrovasculare in. our body that we don't really cater to. this entire segment of our circulatory. system. Think about how small a a. capillary, an artery has to be to carry. a fluid to the edge of the lung,
exchange a gas with the inside of the. lung, pull that gas into the fluid, and. not bleed into the lung. So, just think. about how how tiny that tube has to be. and how many of those you have to have. because don't forget right outside of. your lungs, you got fluid. Those alvoli. are grabbing are grabbing gas and. throwing that into a fluid. Well, at. some point that pipe has to meet a piece. of tissue. How is it not bleeding into. that tissue? It is that small. It's. microvascular. Um, this is also where.
hydrogen gas comes into play. So, um, I. don't know where I was going with that. point, but I just find it fascinating. that we've got so many things that we. can do to cater to a lot of these. ailments that people chalk up to a. consequence of aging. And they could be. as simple um as catering to that portion. of your your circulatory system. It. would be so fascinating to run a study, a long-term study on twins, identical. twins, and have one person just eat the. standard American diet and the other. person follow all these protocols,
hydrogen gas, fitness, healthy food, no. seed oil, no drinking, and just see what. do they look like after 20 years. Yeah. Or 20 years. 20 years would be wild. wild be like sending one of them to. space, you know, and and and it's so. funny because, you know, we're so. wrapped around our medical system that's. really 50, 60 years old, 70 years old. and how important a randomized clinical. trial is and placeboc controlled.
randomized clinical trial that's been. peer-reviewed and and all of this, but. we negate the eastern philosophies that. very often have been around for. thousands of years. And I almost have more lend more. validity to something that's actually. stood the test of time. Like something. that doesn't work is not going to last a. thousand years. Um you know by virtue of. the fact that it doesn't work. When we. were when we were in the mortality. space, we never used randomized clinical. trials. We used big data. And I think.
what you're about to see now that I was. alluding to before is we've built an. entire system on, you know, the the most. rigorous scientific study being the. randomized clinical, you know, placebo. controlled randomized clinical trial. And so that is the gold standard and if. it hasn't been through this process, it. is not valid. Well, we've never done. randomized clinical trials on on. parachutes. I wouldn't jump out of an. airplane without one. Who wants Who who. wants to be in that uh who wants to be. in the control group? Okay, Stan. Yeah,
you line up here. Um you're getting the. knapsack and a prayer book and we're. getting a parachute. That's a very good. point. It's a very good point for. there's some things you really can't run. randomized control studies on. Yeah. I. mean, sometimes we just have data, right? We have really good data. And and. and one of the things I used to get just. absolutely slaughtered for was I spoke. out about the the simple LDL hypothesis. of cholesterol saying that there is no. correlation between elevated levels of.
LDL cholesterol on its own and. cardiovascular disease. You had to have. corresponding increases in triglyceride. You had to have inflammatory factors. you usually had to have other metabolic. factors like um hyper triglyceridemia, hyperinsulinemia and um um and and yet. everybody, you know, would really come. after me for that. And now we're. starting to see that the data on statins. is really falling apart. You know, I.
mean, big data is starting to tell us. that the the extension of life is is. near zero. Um, but the extension of. all-c cause mortality is near zero. And. then the complications downstream, which. we never study. I mean, you'll never. find a randomized clinical trial looking. at more than one pharmaceutical compound. in the same biome. Yet almost everybody. at the age of 60 is on five or more. prescriptions. But we don't study. prescriptions in uh in concert with one.
another. We study them independently. We. say, okay, if you have high cholesterol, you're on a statin. Okay, that's. independent. If you have um you know. your hemoglobin A1C is over 6.4, you're. now insulin dependent. Okay? So now. you're on insulin and you've been a. little sad lately, so now you're on a. SSRI. Um and your thyroid h is uh. hypoofunction. So now you're also on a. synthroid or levothyroxine or arma. thyroid. Um and you know your blood's. gotten a little thick because you're on. hormone therapy. So now you are on a.
blood thinner. We've never studied the. compounding effect of all of these. different pharmaceuticals in the same. biome. We just assume that the. randomized clinical trial in these. independent silos is valid even though. we're going to smack all of these things. together. And one of the things that we. learned in the mortality space was um. the more pharmaceuticals you were on, the easier it was for us to predict your. life expectancy. It was extraordinarily. accurate. For example, if somebody.
started a corticosteroid, which is very. common for rheumatoid arthritis and um. you know other forms of joint pain and. whatnot. If you started a cortosteroid, you had by our data 6 years and one day. until you were getting a joint. replacement. Jesus. Six years and one. day. So that's the average. That was the. average. So let's say for example that. So why is that? Because initially. corticosteroids are anti-inflammatory,
but then they eat the joint like a. termite. Oh, good. Um, and you know, we. knew this in professional sports and a. lot of careers were ended early from. cortisone injections. Um, you know, a. lot of athletes had their careers. actually end early because they got too. many too many cortisone injections. How. many is too many? Um, you know, it sort. of depends on the joint and the and the. location. But one of them can be. beneficial. One of them can be very. beneficial for in the acute phase of of. pain or injury. They can be very. beneficial. But what they used to do is. because these were repetitive use. injuries and um you know very often they.
would just dose the athlete up before a. game. So I mean Joe Thyman I mean not. Joe Thyman um um Joe Montana uh you know. he's one of those careers that ended. early very likely because of cortisone. injections and you keep injecting the. same ligamentous tissue with cortisone. eventually you will weaken that tissue. and it will snap. you know, first it has. an anti-inflammatory. um reaction, but then it starts to break. down the cartilage like like a termite. In fact, it was so accurate that very. often what would happen is people would. get.
misdiagnosed with conditions like. rheumatoid. because they had the same. symptomology as rheumatoid, but what. they actually had was a long-term. clinical deficiency in vitamin D3. and. and you would see that they would have. singledigit vitamin D3 for decades and. then all of a sudden they would start to. present with symptoms that mimicked. rheumatoid. They would say, "Hey doc, you know, my souls of my feet and ankles. are sore when I got out of bed in the. morning uh to go take my first pee. My.
uh I feel like I had a workout the night. before when I haven't. You know, my low. back hurts and my my my knees and hips. and shoulders are stiff now. It's spread. to my upper back and lately it's kind of. hard to make a really tight fist." Well, if you give those symptoms to the wrong. primary care doctor, um maybe without. doing any any confirming diagnosis, without said rates, without RA factors, they go, you know what, Joe, you've got. rheumatoid arthritis, but don't worry, I'm going to put you on something called. a corticosteroid. You're going to take. this pill every morning, you're going to.
be fine. Methraxate, whatever it is, and. initially, you feel great because it. kills the inflammation, but then it. starts to erode the cartilagynous. surface. So if you think about the fact. that you had a nutrient deficiency that. you're now being treated with a. pharmaceutical and 6 years and one day. later now by the way the methtoate for. example will give you a gene mutation. It will mimic a gene mutation called. MTHFR.
Oh that one. That one. The [ __ ]. gene. [ __ ] gene. Yeah, the. [ __ ] gene. So even if you don't. have MTHFR, um let's try one of those. Yeah, I might. as well try it. Um, even if you don't. have MTHFR, if you take methtoresate, you inhibit your your folate metabolism. Cheers, bro. Hydrogen gas, nail coffee. I actually saw you sniffing something on. one of your podcast. What was that? I. don't want I don't want to do it, by the.
way. You can do it. Chuck one. No, no, no, no. I the wrong time. Give me a. freshy. I'm not doing it. Here we go. I. just see all this [ __ ] over here. Oh, this is a fresh one. So, this one hasn't. been opened yet. What is that? This is. uh Do you know who Ju Guu Mufu is? Crazy. Juju Mufu. Yeah. Super Well, he's an. influencer, but he's like very. impressive athlete. Like super jacked, dude. If you got a name like fit guy, you got to be able to beat ass. Incredibly flexible. This is the guy. Oh, yeah. I've seen a freak. Like a real.
freak. I mean, for sure he's not. natural. There's not a [ __ ] chance in. hell, but I don't care. But but uh he. makes this stuff. Uh, we have no. affiliation with him. We buy it. It's. not We're not sponsored. So people, oh, you're making money off that, bro. No. money. No. No, I'm not making Dude, I'm. scared, dude. I saw Theo Vaughn almost. almost like Brian Simpson took his. headphones off and ran out of the room. No, dude. I'm not getting anywhere near. that. No, this is a good one. I'm going. to I'm going to I'm going to sniff it. with the top on. If the bag Oh, and it's.
Give me the bag. I'll do the bag. Just. take a sniff of the bag. This is so wrong. It is wrong. I feel so. dirty. Oh my god, dude. That's nothing. That's nothing. That's just the bag that. the smelling salts have been sitting in. Oh my god. So, what powerliffters do is. they take a sniff of this [ __ ] right. before they lift weights. You ready? Here we go. No. There's zero chance. [Music].
Oh, lordy. Dude, there is zero chance. Get on in. Get on in, bro. Come on. Reach for it. Pe pressure. Take a Get it. about 6 inches from the nose. Take a. haul. It's good for you. I can't. guarantee it's good for you. No, no, no. That was nothing. Oh, you're such a. baby. Come on. You're a biohacker. You're a real man. Get in there. Take a. sniff. Yeah, I'm a real man. I don't do. this [ __ ] Get in there, bro. Get in. there. One, two, three, go. Sniff. Yeah, that's what I'm talking. about. Oh, god. That's what I'm talking.
about. Let's go. And that was a a freshy. The. fresh ones are the really hard ones. We. have these in the green room at the. comedy club. People get addicted. They're all They all take sniff. My left. eye. Yeah. It'll come back better. Come. back stronger. I have no data to support. that, by the way. Now, I'm going to go down the rabbit. hole of that. You're going to want. another five minutes. About five. minutes. You're going to say, "Give me. round two." Oh yeah. Where were we,
dude? We were actually something. important. MTHFR, I think. Um, I did. want to ask you about cholesterol before. I forget. Um, where did the uh narrative. come from that there's good cholesterol. and bad cholesterol and that HDL is. good, LDL is bad, you want to lower your. LDL, and you want to take a statin. Where did all this? So um so you know. highdensity liver protein and lowdensity. liver protein. um you know the HDL the high density.
lipoproteins generally considered the. good um cholesterol and the LDL the low. density or VLDL very low density. lipoprotein are considered the bad. cholesterol because they're softer right. um but what what we know now is that the. size of the cholesterol molecule matters. a lot in other words these the smaller. the particulate size of cholesterol. the easier it is to cross into the. arterial wall gets eaten eaten by. macroofage and it forms something called. a foam cell which is essentially this.
this foam cell process of oxidized. cholesterol is what is the genesis of. narrowing of the arteries right um but. again we have to remember that. cholesterol is called to the site of. inflammation so if you had two people. one with cholesterol of 100 and LDL. cholesterol and another one with. cholesterol. 129. Um, does a person with 129 have a. higher incidence of cardiovascular. disease? No. Um, does a does the person. of 129 have a greater risk of um, a.
cardiovascular event? No. Just because. they have elevated LDL cholesterol. Now. if you start to look at other markers. like C reactive protein which is a great. marker for cardiovascular risk. If you. look at um triglyceride cholesterol. ratio because remember fat triglyceride. is largely transported around the body. on on the on the surface of cholesterol. So if if cholesterol was a tennis ball. the fuzzy yellow surface would be a fat. triglyceride. And if you remember from. high school geometry, as the size of a.
sphere gets smaller, its surface area to. volume ratio goes up. So what that means. is if I had two basketball, dude, I can. still that thing is I got to I got to. seal this thing, dude. It's like I'm. going to go blind in my left eye. I'm. trying to be smart and I can't see out. of my left eye. Um, dude, what is it? It's a good question. Ammonia. Ammonia. What is salt? Ah, it's no joke, man. I. remember I remember my my clinic when.
Dr. Sarda used to tape these things to. the wall because she would do she would. do these shoulder injections on people. and they would get woozy and she would. just crack one of those smelling and. they used to use them for boxers when. they got knocked out when they got. rocked and they get into the corner. They'd give them smelling sauce and wake. right up. Wow. Not really. But so let's. say you had two basketballs of. cholesterol. This is an oversimplified. version for the audience, but you have. two basketballs of cholesterol and they. and they're covered in fat. Okay. Okay, a triglyceride. And let's say I add more. triglyceride to the bloodstream, right?
Which which happens when you eat high. sugar, high glycemic carbohydrate. Why? Because part of insulin's role is is to. block forms of energy metabolism that. would allow you to uh burn fat um or at. least slow those pathways down. So. essentially, you have two two. basketballs of cholesterol. And now I. want to add more fat to the table. Those. two basketballs become four softballs. If I add more triglyceride to the table, they become eight baseballs. If I add.
more triglyceride, they become 16 golf. balls. And if I continue to raise. triglyceride, they'll become 32 little. BB's. So the point is the amount of. cholesterol stayed. stable. The amount of triglyceride went. up. As the amount of triglyceride went. up, the size of the cholesterol molecule. got smaller. So the two basketballs and. the 32 BBs are the same volume of. cholesterol, same nanogram per deciliter.
of cholesterol, just vastly different. sizes. Those 32 BBs very dangerous. Those two basketballs, very little. danger. One is actually a marker for. longevity. One is a marker for. cardiovascular disease. And it is the. same amount of cholesterol, just. different sizes. So different sizes. I. got my blood drawn a couple years ago. and the doctor asked me if I was on. cholesterol medication. He said, "Your.
cholesterol is really low." He goes, "Are you on medication?" I said, "No, but I eat mostly meat." Yeah. Your your. your um triglycerides would usually go. down. Your LDL cholesterol will go up if. you're on a ketogenic diet. Um uh Dr. Uh. I think it's Nadir Singh is his name did. an unbelievable he's a cardiologist did. an unbelievable um YouTube video on this. uh I actually did a podcast with Dr. Aim. Malhotra who is a cardiologist. Has he. been here too? Yeah. Unbelievable guy.
Hey, shout out to Aim. He's incredible, credible guy. Um, and Aim would tell you. the same thing that uh, you know, he he. fought the British Medical Journal um, and and got publications that he was. trying to have published, you know, pulled because he was fighting the. narrative on statins, one of the biggest. biggest drugs in the in the world. We. knew in the mortality space that the. centinarians that we were processing. death death death claims on um I don't. recall a time during my career when we.
had a death claim on a centinarian. somebody over the age of 100 that did. not have elevated levels of LDL. cholesterol at the time of their death. because very often these people would. die either in hospitals or cysticare. living facilities and we'd process the. death claim and in order to get the. death claim processed you'd have to know. you know day date time location cause of. death, they'd have to and we'd have to. get a death certificate. And these. people were dying with elevated levels. of LDL cholesterol, which you would. think, well, wouldn't they have died a.
lot younger of cardiovascular disease? And now the data is starting to come out. to support these other metabolic issues. like hyperinsulinemia, you know, um. hyper triglyceride, um high, you know, high blood sugar that these these are. villains that precede cholesterol, you. know, attaching to the arterial wall. And so when we talk about metabolic. health, we really shouldn't just isolate. LDL cholesterol. We should be looking at.
our blood pressure, you know, our our. our abdominal uh obesity, our our sugars. mainly, whether or not um you know, what. our fasting blood glucose is, what the. 3-month average of our blood sugar is, our hemoglobin A1C, making sure that's. below, preferably 5.4. um looking at our. insulin because insulin resistance. develops a long time before a lot of. these things show up and looking at. other inflammatory markers like C. reactive protein and just generalized. markers of inflammation because most. people are eating a very. pro-inflammatory diet and this is why.
you can't isolate one thing and say seed. oils are what's killing Americans you. know vaccines are what's killing. Americans aluminum vaccines or or you. know fluoride and drinking water it's. the cumulative dose toxicity of all of. these things um you know our water is. toxic And we have fluoride, we have. chlorines, we have PFAs, polyflloral. alkals, we have microplastics, we have. bisphenols. Um, you know, I actually did. a a test on myself and my entire. family called a vibrant wellness test.
and you uh uh it's a blood and urine. test and essentially it tells you. whether you got mold, miccotoxins, heavy. metals, um all all of these different. things. the amount of BPAs in my blood. and I am I would consider myself pretty. on top of my diet game. The amount of. BPAs um there are traces of jet fuel. there aphlotoxins um jet fuel there were. traces of jet fuel from all your flying. like um accelerants like uh like aerosol.
accelerants or maybe from flying I fly a. lot. Um, my daughter had it in her in in. her blood, too. And so, and and and so. did my wife. And then we and then we all. had very similar species of mold, which. we which we got rid of, and I felt a lot. better. Um, and it was in your home. It. was in uh it was actually in my. daughter's apartment. We actually ended. up having our doctor write a letter and. and and break her lease and we moved her. into a apartment right next to us in in. uh Coconut Grove in Florida. But she was.
starting to have and she's a nurse and. she was starting to have these strange. symptoms, just brain fog. Her joints. were just killing her um in the morning. By the end of the day, her ankles were. swollen. Um her mood started to. collapse. Like the peaks and valleys of. her mood kind of went away. Um she um. and she was, you know, I was bringing. her over to to the house and obviously. as a biohacker, I'm trying to solve. everything. So I was like, we got to do. this fiber wellness test medicine. We. got to figure out what's going on. And. then boom, the mold just jumped off the.
chart. Our youngest daughter too was. suffering from recurrent sore throats. And you know that viruses and and I mean. bacteria and and mold have been mortal. enemies for years. I mean think. penicellin and bacteria, right? And so. we live in the mold capital of the world. and very often when you get mold. toxicity, it doesn't just it's not just. a constant infection. It has a latent. phase, a dormant phase, and then a and. then a sporulating phase. And so these.
these mold infections, which a lot of. doctors will tell you are complete. nonsense, are absolutely valid. I mean, there are people that right now that. have severe brain fog, they have joint. pain. Um, they have really poor focus. and concentration, short-term memory. issues, they've got hormone imbalance, they've got water retention, um, they. got swollen. ankles, and they cannot really figure it. out. And they'll do a standard blood. test, and you don't see this on a. standard blood test. Um and when you do.
something like a vibrant and you look at. these um this mold toxicity, you get rid. of it and the you see the entire blood. panel, you know, comes back into optimal. ranges and they feel amazing. Just like. my my daughter, we did EBO2, we did. sauna, uh we did gut binders, activated. charcoal binders, high doses of. glutathione, and over the next few. weeks, we slowly walked uh you know this. mold right out of her her system. But. people suffer from this all the time. In.
fact, I've been deep down the rabbit. hole of a lot of the foundations of. these autoimmune diseases because in my. previous. clinic, we. had 150 160,000 patients come through. our our clinic system. and nearly everyone that we saw that had. an autoimmune disease was told by their. doctor, uh, you just woke up one day and. your immune system went haywire. Right?
So you you have Crohn's disease because. one day you woke up and your immune. system is manufacturing antibodies to. your colon or you have hypothyroid. because you woke up one morning and and. um your your immune system is. manufacturing antibodies to your. thyroid. So yeah, now you have. Hashimoto's or the lacto gland in your. eye and you have sugars or you know your. blood you have lupus and we immediately. just assume that God made a mistake that. the immune system is. malfunctioning instead of taking a step. back and saying you know what if.
actually the immune system is acting. properly what if God didn't make a. mistake what if it's attacking the colon. for a reason we just have to figure it. out and if you just eliminated four. things, mold, micotoxin, heavy metals, viruses, and parasites. Just those four. categories, I believe that you would get. to the majority of the genesis of of. autoimmune diseases. So, you know, some. of these autopsy studies on multiple. sclerosis, for example, were um 100%.
positive for certain colonies of Helmans. um Helmans, Helmans, which are. parasites. and and. and these Helman colonies or or or the. larve from these were actually in the. myelin sheath of 10 of 10 autopsies that. they did on multiple sclerosis patients. and I'm not by any way means saying that. everybody that has multiple sclerosis. has parasitic infection but there are.
healthy parasites there's categories of. helmets that are very very healthy and. some of the underdeveloped countries in. the world where actually they have um. these healthy parasites which we've. wiped out for the large part here, they. don't get multiple scerosis or they have. very very low incidence of multiple. scerosis. And one of the theories is. that because we have um um we have. disrupted the balance of not only. bacteria but parasites in our gut, specifically TSO parasites which are. which are healthy parasites that the the.
pathogenic parasites proliferate and. they burrow their their larve burrow. into the myelin sheath and they're part. of the genesis of of multiple scerosis. My whole point in saying that is if you. take any par pathogen, let's just take. this one right here. What this is looks. like a Donald Trump coin. So, I don't. know if the audience could see this, but. let's say this was a mold spore or. miccotoxin or this was a heavy metal um. or or or even a virus and this was a. healthy cell. You see that they they.
don't hide like this, right? Metals, micotoxins, mold, uh you know, viruses, even in some cases parasites, they don't. hide outside of the cell like this. They. hide like this and inside the cell. Inside the cell. I mean, but when a. virus um when when the nuclear capsu. protein of a virus attaches to a cell. and injects its DNA, that's the way that. it takes over that cell. It's kind of. kind of like being bitten by the zombie, right? I mean, a virus is not a living. thing. It's an envelope that that's. wrapped around DNA. But when that.
envelope attaches to the cell wall and. it and it squirts the DNA inside, now. the virus has taken over the host cell, right? So it's inside the cell. But the. point is that the immune system is not. after this. It's not after the cell. It's after this. So So how does it how. does it get to this? It has to kick down. this wall. It has to break through this. cell wall. And very often in order to do. that, it needs to manufacture an. antibbody to this cell. If you look for.
example at um uh h you know for for uh. Hashimoto's which a lot of people have. you know um these people have. Hashimoto's and they're told okay well. you woke up one day and your immune. system decided to attack the the the uh. thyroid you know you're manufacturing. antibodies to your your thyroid and so. um well why is it attacking my thyroid? Well we don't know. Um let's look at. your family history. Oh your uh your. mom's sister had it and your dad's. brother had it. Oh, you have familial.
Hashimoto's. Even though there is no. gene for Hashimoto's, so you couldn't. have inherited it from your ancestor. because it now runs in your family. You're told that you have a genetically. inherited disease and now you have to. subscribe to a lifetime of medication. Instead of taking a step back and. saying, "Well, what would have called my. immune system to that site?" You look at. the incidence of heavy metal toxicity um. mercury poisoning in Hashimoto's. Look. at the amount of lead and mercury. poisoning in in Hashimoto's because the.
thyroid has an affinity for heavy. metals. And very often when they retreat. into the thyroid, the immune system will. chase them there. And look at the. genesis of a lot of Crohn's disease. I. mean, a lot of Crohn's disease has to do. with the disruption of the single cell. layer in your gut that allows bacteria. and other pathogenic contents that. should stay inside the luminal wall of. your gut. they they they leak out and. they they're in an area that they don't. belong and the immune system is. attacking them there. And then we want. to hold the immune system responsible. for the crime and say, "Hey, we're going.
to we're going to arrest the police. officer um for what this criminal did. I. mean, that those contents are in areas. of the body where they don't belong. And. so we're going to put you on an. imunosuppressant or we're going to put. you on an anti-inflammatory. um and we're actually going to stop the. immune system from protecting you. instead of saying what contents could be. leaking from my gut that are causing the. immune system to light up. And you could. just keep going through lots of. autoimmune diseases like this, you know,
multiple scerosis, a lot of these. conditions, but mold, miccotoxins, metals, parasites. I mean, if I was ever. told that I had an autoimmune disease, I. would not accept it until I had done. those kinds of tests. Interesting. So, back to the narrative of HDL and LDL. How did it get formed that LDL is the. bad cholesterol? because the majority of. people that had high LDL cholesterol. also had high other factors going on in.
their body. And just like a lot of these. randomized clinical trials, we look at. things in isolation. We study one thing. in isolation. One of the worst things we. do in my opinion in modern science is. study human anatomy or human physiology. or biochemistry in isolation. So, we say. we're going to take a cell out of the. body, we're going to put it in a lab, we're going to look how it behaves in a. petri dish, and then we're going to. assume that when I put that cell back. into the body, it's going to behave the. same way. And so, we didn't solve for. all of these other factors. Well, what. was the person's um um insulin level?
What was their fasting glucose? What was. their hemoglobin A1C? What were their. other inflammatory markers like C. reactive protein, creatine. phosphocinise? What were their what were. the other lifestyle factors that were. going on? And what you you'll find is it. correlation between high levels of. cholesterol and people that have. cardiovascular disease, but not because. of the cholesterol, because of all of. the diet and lifestyle risk factors that. go around it. But we can build a.
multi-billion dollar, in fact a trillion. dollar industry by just lowering this. one biioarker. And when we lower this. biioarker, if that biioarker were. directly linked to all-c causeed. mortality, if it were directly linked to. the incidence of of cardiovascular. disease, then we would see in the. population where we lowered this. biioarker, we would see an extension of. mortality, right? Because we said this. bioarker was high LDL. So if we lower it. with statin, then we're going to see an. extension in mortality. And lo and.
behold, we see no extension in. mortality. So how's it continued to be. used? because it's continued to be. marketed that way. You have to. understand that there's there's a box uh. that is called the standard of care and. and I don't subscribe to the fact that. physicians are trying to harm you. In. fact, I have the deepest respect for. people that are licensed to practice. medicine because I'm not I'm not one of. them. And and you know, they they go. through a schooling to learn to practice. within something called the standard of. care. If you're outside of the standard. of care, your your malpractice is at.
risk, your reimbursement is at risk, your career is at risk. So, you may very. well be doing something that is in your. scope of practice, but it is outside the. standard of care. So, most physicians. will migrate back into the standard of. care. So, even if you go around to a. bunch of alopathic doctors and get. multiple opinions, they'll all be within. this box. When you jump outside of that. box, you got to be talking to somebody. who's willing to say, "Okay, you.
probably have to pay me cash. You. probably have uh you put my malpractice. at risk. I don't have malpractice. coverage for this type of treatment." Um. not because they're breaking the law, but because they're not within the. standard of care. It's just like when. physicians started to prescribe. ivormectin and hydroxychloricquin for. COVID when it wasn't the standard of. care even though there were millions and. millions and millions of scripts written. for um these pharmaceuticals that were. proven to be extraordinarily safe. I. mean our our doctor used to have to.
write it for joint pain during COVID um. so she wouldn't potentially risk her. license. So what happens is you develop. a herd mentality because the system for. reimbursement, how they get paid, the. system for coverage, how they get. malpractice coverage, and the system for. their career is all dependent on things. being inside of a certain box. And the. standard of care for someone with. elevated LDL cholesterol is to put them. on a statin. If you don't do that, you. could be risking your license.
And why is that the standard of care? because pharma dictates that that's the. standard of care. They also dictate the. reimbursement rates. And so if you look. at the study that was done in 2016 by. Harvard, you know, which determined that. medical error was the third leading. cause of death, um I think it was. repeated by Hopkins in 2019, but the. Harvard study in 2016 is very clear that. the third leading cause of death in. America is medical error.
And when you look into the study for. why, you know, were were doctors just. killing people? No. What happened was. they looked at ICD9, ICD10, ICD11 codes, how they're coding um, you know, the. diagnosis of what's happened to you. I. have to, as a doctor, I've got to sort. of slot you into a diagnostic code so I. can get reimbursed and you can get. medication and we can all get paid. Mhm. And but if I don't have a diagnosis to.
slot you into, I got to pick sort of the. next nearest one. And there is no. diagnosis or way for me to be reimbursed. or or to make a living. If I go, "Look, Joe, you're your hemoglobin A1C is like. 5.7. You're early stage pre-diabetic. Um, you know, you've got a little. abdominal obesity going on. Your blood. pressure is creeping towards the the. high side. your fasting glucose is is is. really high. Let's talk about some diet. and lifestyle choices. Tell me what's.
going on in your life. What's a typical. day of your diet look like? You know, can I put you on a treadmill for 25 or. 30 minutes? Can I talk to you about. intermittent fasting? You know, can I. talk to you about things like a whole. food diet, exercise? No, none of that. All of that is outside the standard of. care. If something happens to you and I. haven't practiced within the standard of. care, I'm at risk. And so, I think a lot. of that is what's really exciting about. mahas. I think a lot of that is going to. begin to change. You're going to see um. Bobby Kennedy.
and his team uh again in my opinion, you're going to see Bobby Kennedy and. his team which have been empowered to. make real change, not just getting um uh. you know poison out of our food supply. and having the generally regarded as. safe guidelines look at food safety. before we put it into the public domain. But you're really going to see him go. after corruption in our nutritional. research, corruption in our um uh in our.
governmental oversight bodies. You know, how is it that we can have people that. sit in the Food and Drug Administration. and regulate private industry and at the. end of that regulatory career go in to. work for the same industry that they. purported to regulate. um and sometimes for 10 times what they. would make as a as a regulator. kind of. kooky. It's It's It seems to me like you. would get arrested for that in another. industry. Yeah. Right. I mean, if you. did that in the securities industry, uh. the banking industry, you wouldn't get.
away with it. Um and you know, 70 north. of 70% I think the number 74% of our. nutritional research is funded by. private industry. You know, we. we privatize the profit, but we. socialize the expense. And and by this I. mean like we we socialize through the. tax subsidized medical system, Medicaid, Medicare. The expenses, right? So the. expenses go to the taxpayer, but the. payments go to private industry. So we.
privatize the profit and we socialize. the risk. And then the private industry. that benefits from this doesn't even. have a fiduciary to the patients that. they serve. They actually have a. fiduciary to the investor. They and and. they can go to prison for not actually. performing for their investor. they. can't go to prison prison for not. performing for their um for their. patient. So if I make a pharmaceutical. that goes into your body, but somebody. lent, you know, invested in my company. to make that pharmaceutical, my. responsibility is to them, not to you.
So now you get harmed, you get harmed, I'm I'm held harmless. But if I harm him. by not selling it to you for the right. margin, he gets to put me in prison. It's I mean it's it's it's. mind. It's so ass backwards. It's so ass. backwards and it's such an uphill. sludge. I mean, the what what the the. current administration has to do, what. what Bobby Kennedy has to do is sort of. re restructure decades and decades of.
what's essentially corruption. Yeah. And. there's a there's a lot of people. fighting them on it, man. Wow. I could. only imagine because the amount of. profit, you know, when you're talking. about these industries, the the amount. of money they generate is astronomical. Mhm. And they're responsible. for so much of the advertising revenue. of mainstream media that mainstream. media not only will not cover the. negative aspects of their drugs, but.
will heavily criticize anyone who tries. to go outside the narrative. Very true. And I mean, you know, look at this um. you know, this uh strong kids. commission. Um you know, it's the idea. is. um to try to go to schools, put physical. education back into schools, get highly. processed foods out of the schools, and. actually not to fat shame kids, but to. promorphic encourage them. Like, yes,
it's okay to not want to be sloppy and. out of shape and to call that out and to. actually be be physic physically fit and. healthy. It's not that you have to be. there to be to gain status, but it's. okay to not want to be fat. Well, there's also there's the real look, I. don't think you should shame people and. be visible to them. However, if someone. pulls you aside and says, "Hey, Bobby, you're overweight and it's [ __ ] up. your health and you know it's it's. really bad for you." If that makes you.
feel bad and that feeling bad inspires a. change in your lifestyle, in your diet, in exercise routines, and what you do, that's a positive. And sometimes you. have to feel bad. Like someone has to. give you an F for you to realize, oh my. god, I'm gonna fail in this class unless. I study harder. Yeah. Like that's part. of life. And you can't just coddle. people and expect success. That's not. how it works. I totally agree. It's one.
of the most important aspects of. athletics because athletics are a very. clear it's a very clear formula that the. more work you put in, the harder you. train, the more results you'll get. As. long as you're not overtraining and you. know you do it correctly, if you put in. the effort Yeah. you work hard, you will. get results and that's. that's a vehicle for the rest of your. life. If you can learn that at a young.
age, that's why I think athletics are so. important for young people. If you can. learn that at an early age that the. discomfort is necessary for growth, like. being tired, pushing yourself, working. out when you don't want to, like pushing. yourself to the point where your body. has to adapt and grow and become. stronger is a part of this process and. it's beneficial. And through doing that, you will actually feel better. It is. actually a medicine. If you could get. the way if you could get the way I feel.
after I have a hard if I cold plunge, have a hard workout, get in the sauna, stretch out, and then go about my day. If you could put that in a pill, people. are like, "Oh my god, my new. anti-anxiety medication is so. incredible. My doctor, it's so. incredible. I'm so happy that I went to. this doctor cuz he put me on the right. stuff." Yeah, that pill if especially if. it did all the things that exercise did. without exercise, it would be the most. valuable pill in the world. But getting. people to feel discomfort voluntarily is.
so difficult when people have this. sedentary lifestyle and this lazy mind. and this entitlement that so many people. have where they feel like the world owes. them something. Instead of I've owe. myself, I've got to work for myself. I've got to put off these uh feelings of. I've got to de delay these feelings of, you know, relaxation and comfort and.
delay it and give myself some voluntary. discomfort so that I can feel true. peace. Yeah, I actually trademarked the. uh statement aging is the aggressive. pursuit of comfort. By the way, if you. want to use that, just use it. I won't I. won't sue you. But also aging actually. aging is that's part of it too. Aging is. the aggressive pursuit of comfort. And. if you think about that for a minute, it. truly is. The more aggressively we seek. comfort, the faster we age. It's like we. really got to stop telling grandma not. to go outside. It's too hot, not to go.
outside, it's too cold. Just it's not. even really aging, right? It's. deterioration. It's deterioration. Yeah. You're going to at your muscles will. atrophy. Your bone density will. decrease. Your ligaments and your. tendons will discomfort. Yeah. I mean, when has a cold plunge not sucked? Every. it sucks every day. [ __ ] I don't want. to do Every day while I'm doing it, there's my little inner [ __ ] that's. trying to talk me out of it. My little. inner [ __ ] has a little whispery voice, though. It's like, you know, you don't.
really want to do this. You don't need. to, Joe. Oh, this is going to suck. Maybe you could just go eat cake. You're. rich and successful. Yeah, you don't. have to do this. But thankfully, the. general the general is what I call the. one part of my brain that I I try to. keep the most dominant that that where I. tell myself, "Shut the [ __ ] up. Shut up, stupid. Get in there. This is not This. is unavoidable. Get in there." I hear uh. David Gogggins in my um in my head like, you know, like, "Shut up, you [ __ ] Get.
in that get that get that gold punch.". He's like, "What does he say? Don't. negotiate with yourself." My my my son. and I went went on this uh race called. the Great World Race, which is seven. marathons, seven continents in seven. days. And um and I did a couple of half. marathons and one full marathon, but he. did all seven marathons on all seven. continents in seven days. How banged up. was he by the end of seven days? Yeah, he was uh this was in November, so he's. 24 now. He's 23 at the time, so this.
like five months ago. And um I guess at. 23 you kind of feel like you can't be. killed by a. bullet. Turns out by Cartahena he was he. was feeling it but um but we took the. David Gogggins book with us and we read. like I was reading like a chapter out of. it every every day. But um it was a. crazy experience because so my son Cole. and myself and my my uh cameraman, my. production guy went with us and. initially I'm like this is so awesome. We're going to see all seven continents.
in seven days. We're going to see. Antarctica. Dude, by the third. marathon, I I was in just I was so. exhausted and in so in so much pain and. I had only done like half marathons when. we got off the got off the flight in. Antarctica. Um, every all the all the. racers go out and start running. I had. these big Timberland boots on and this. big puffy jacket and I was just sitting. at the start line just was going to wait. for my son and um I asked the race.
director I'm like how how long are these. loops? He's like well um they're 6 point. whatever miles and uh and there's four. of them and uh I was like I could easily. do one of these. So I just started. running. Went up for in the tinderlands. in in the in these size 14 Timberlands, dude, which I which I immediately. regretted because then the snow starts. caking to the um to the bottom of my. Timberland. So I ended up actually. marching and not really running. And it. was so funny cuz my my my son has these.
spikes on. So of course he laps me and. he comes by and he's like, "Dad, what. the [ __ ] are you doing out here?" I was. like, I thought I'd give it a whirl. So. I actually made three loops. So I got 18. miles. Oh wow. He ran the whole. 26.3. Then you get on the plane and then. you fly five and a half hours in economy. sitting up like this. Right. You fly 5. and a half hours and you land in Cape. Town, South Africa and you get off the. plane and immediately run another. marathon. Oh god. And it's balls hot. Um.
and and then you we packed up and from. that marathon so now these marathons. were only like 5 and a half hours 6. hours apart. So now you've done two. marathons in 24 hours. One in. Antarctica, one in the heat in South. Africa. And then it was like 11 hours to. Perth, Australia. Um and I ran another. half there. He ran a full full marathon. there. Um and then you're done in Perth, Australia, and you pack up. We flew to. Istanbul. And the cool thing about.
Istanbul is you could you could run on. on the Asian side and then run on the. European side. So this was like the only. night we got to stay into in a hotel. room and actually take a shower. Um and. so we get to Istanbul and um and the the. marathon was supposed to be along this. wararf. It was like supposed to be it's. a it's it's pitch black at night. Um. it's the the dock is all broken apart.
You know, there's these big huge cracks. in the sidewalk and it was 26.3 miles. along this wararf. Only the thing was we. were told that they were going to get. all the fishermen off the wall. And so. it was lines and lines and lines of. these guys fishing at night and they. would take the Oh boy. and they would. snap the hooks forward. And so we get. there and we're like, "This is way too. freaking dangerous." And I guess the the. company that they had hired to clear all. these fishermen just took their took.
their money and and said the whole. course was going to be lit. Um found out. the course wasn't lit. So then you had. to wear the the headlamps and um so it. took him like an hour, hour and 20. minutes to clear all these fishermen. But then we started running and and we. ran with those uh you know those. headlights on and if you've ever been in. the pitch black and you've just watched. that light bounce in front of your eyes. for I don't know how my son did it. Um. cuz I ran for like like an hour and a. half and I was like [ __ ] this. I have. nothing to prove. You.
know I'm 53. I'm gonna be 54. I'm like. um I've already run a few half. marathons. I feel really good. So he ran. the entire thing and I joined him for a. bunch a bunch of laps. But finally he. just ripped the thing off his head. because that light shaking in front of. your eyes for 4 hours at a time. Pretty. soon you just start to go baddy and then. you you go to sleep. The next day you. run in the Asian side. Then it was 19. hours to. Cartahania and um about a third of the.
athletes drank uh the water with the ice. or ate the salad that was washed in the. water from it. Oh no. And the worst. Monosuma's revenge Joe you could ever. imagine. Oh no. Like a third of the. plane wakes up six or seven hours into. this 19-hour flight just puking both. ends. Oh boy. Lines outside the. bathroom. Lines outside the bathroom. Squeezing your butthole shut trying to. get in there time. People laying in the.
in the galleys just throwing up into the. trash cans. Oh no. Several. And I swear. by the time we had landed my son had. lost so much weight and he was just in. the and then we had a we get to the. hotel room which you you actually didn't. get to spend the night. We got to the. hotel room just to change and he's in. there just puking and you know crapping. and he finally gets his race gear on. We. go downstairs and like half half of the. athletes are like look like they're on. their deathbed and because we were late. to Cartahenia the the race goes off at.
like 12:30 in the afternoon 12:00 in the. afternoon. It's freaking 98 degrees. maybe. 100° 90% humidity. It is the hottest, flattest, most unforgiving course. And I. remember turning to my production head. of my production team, this Max, and um. and I was like, Max, there is zero. chance he's finishing this marathon. Cuz. he'd already started about 28, 210 lbs,
and he was probably 190 by this time. And um and so I pull up next to my son. and I was like, "Look, man, if you don't. give up on this race, you know, I I. won't give up on you." And I sincerely. regretted that at like mile 16 or 18, like saying that I would run the whole. race with him because everything in I've. never run a marathon except for that. day. Everything in my entire body hurt, Joe. Like like I was in so much pain. from the waist down that I think I was.
just completely numb. And he was just. going from portaotti to porta potty, puking and [ __ ] puking, [ __ ]. puking, [ __ ] And um I was having. these sentimental moments where I was. like, "Man, I'm so so happy to be out. here with you, dude. Like this is we're. going to look back on this one day and. wish we were back here." And he would. like look at me and go, "Dad, shut the. [ __ ]. up." And then we quiet down for like. another 30 or 40 minutes and then I get. sentimental again and he'd tell me to. shut the [ __ ] up again. We ended up.
finishing the race though. I don't know. how I don't know how he did it. He. sipped he sipped little ounces of. coconut water for that entire Cartahan. race. And then we had to get on the. plane and fly to Miami to run the. seventh one, which I didn't do. He He. did. Wow. But I don't even know why I. brought that up, but it was a crazy. crazy moment. There were these women. that were running this race, I kid you. not, that they had Monzuma's revenge so. bad that they would leave the rac course. and run into the the bay that we were. running beside and just [ __ ] themselves.
in the bay and then get back out and. keep running. And the guy that set the. world record um in Antarctica uh left. the course in an ambulance in. Cardahania. Wow. It was insane, man. My. friend Cam Haynes when he was preparing. for one of those ultra runs when you run. for three days like 240 miles he was. running a marathon a day while he was. working an 8 hour job. He was running a. marathon a day. A marathon a day. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. There's a guy right now in.
Bahrain um staying with Shik Nasser. who's the who's the one of the sons of. the king of Bahrain and he is. running 150 full distance triathlons in. 150 days. When I was there he was on 59. I kid you not. It's amazing the body's. potential if you just continue to push. it. The thing about Cam is Cam had been. running for so long, for so many years, that he had this incredible base, his. base of cardio. He was used to doing 10.
every day. 170 160. That's kind of big. for that. Yeah. He's not Well, his son. is even [ __ ] crazier. His son just. broke the world record in pull-ups in 24. hours. In pull-ups. Wow. Yeah. I think. he did 10,0001 10,0001 in 24 hours. 10,0001 in 10,000. So he had broke the. So Gogggins had a record. He broke. Gogggins record and then some cat in. Australia. He's young. He's like 25.
Wow. Um he's an animal, too. That's him. And he runs with jeans on, by the way. Why? Just for a [ __ ] goof. He runs. with Origin jeans. Have you ever used uh. those stretchy jeans that Origin makes? [ __ ] great. They're basically. sweatpants. I don't know if I'd run a. marathon in them. They're basically. sweatpants. They they give you no. resistance. You can kick somebody in the. head with them easy. He's gifted though. Like you can tell that stride like he's. just a well he's been living like a. [ __ ] animal his whole life. So he he. came in seventh place in the Austin.
Marathon and he is not built like a. marathon guy. He's jacked. Yeah, he. definitely is. I mean obviously he won. the world pull-up championship or world. pull-up record. He he is where I got one. of the ideas to carry a lot of weight. for like like when I do 150 pounds of. pose. Oh, is that what he does? So what. he does, he did this thing where I think. it's a mile like see if you can find it. So he's carrying a sandbag and I believe. he has a weight vest on as well and I.
think the overall weight is over 200 lb. and he goes a over a mile with over 200. lb. Oh, just timed it. See if you can. find that just walking like on a truck. I'm going short distances when I'm. carrying heavy weight. But what I'm. trying to do is, you know, Peter Aia. talked about this too, like the. importance of the ability to carry. weight and walk with it. And then. there's this guy Tom talks about the the. centinarian decathlon. Yes. And then. there's this guy in Australia who's like. an incredible freak. His name is Tom.
Havlan and he's an enormous guy. He's. like 6'7, close he's 300 lb, just close to 400, right? Isn't he like closing in on 400. lb? and he's muscular. jacked jacked and one of the things that. he does as a part of his uh he does like. very unusual workout routines but see if. you can find some videos on that's what. he looks like I mean just a [ __ ]. complete freak but he does white dude. yes enormous guy too I mean he's a huge.
guy but he does a lot of his workouts. are not just like normal deadlifts bench. press all that kind of [ __ ]. Some of his workouts he does uh carries. things like he carries things like off. one side or another side. Go to his. Instagram so I can pick one. A lot of. these are just mostly you see just his. back. Why? When he filmed I don't know. He's a psychopath. He has to be out of. his [ __ ] mind just to be doing this. cuz he's one literally one of the.
strongest guys in the world. Really? Does he participate in like strongman. cont? I don't think he does. I think he. just does all this [ __ ] on his own and I. don't even understand why. So, what does. he weigh now? 302 lbs. Wow. He drinks He. eats 6,570 calories a day. Yeah. And. 3,200 and uh no, excuse me, 329 gram of. protein, 814 gram of carbs, 222 gram of. fat. And so he was And that's the.
current phase, which is a deficit. Yeah. This was him on his way to So go back to. that. Yeah. So, he's at 340 pounds. I think he. was trying to get to 400 lb at one point. in time. But one of the things he does a. lot is carry stuff. And so I started. looking into this idea like what what. what is it? What's the big deal about. carrying and walking with stuff? So like. he does this like how much weight is. that [ __ ] got carrying around. with them? How many weights is that? I.
mean. 500 lb. What is that? One, two, three, four, five. 10 plates. So it's 50 pounds. Yeah. And. so he's just walking short distances. with this. So I started doing that in my. yard. So I started doing it with. farmer's carries. And you know when I. ruck I just use the 45 lb plate when I. go a couple miles with the dog. What's. with the back? I mean, why isn't he Cuz. he's a [ __ ] psychopath. Why does he. have all clothes on, too? Cuz if he.
takes the clothes off, he's super. impressive. He takes his shirt. Yeah, he's [ __ ] ripped. I mean, the guy is. enormous. I forget his background. Yeah, that's him. That's what he looks like, dude. Holy [ __ ] And again, he's like 67. or something crazy like that. Built that. way. Wow. Um, but he does a lot of. carrying stuff and walking stuff. He he. feels like it's very important for like. your overall strength is to be able to. walk. Not just to be able to sit there. and push stuff and do squats in place,
but to move with things where you're. balancing and counterbalancing, moving. left foot, right foot, left foot, right. foot. Yeah. And uh I think there's a. real benefit to that. You know, I like. the I like the single arm, you know, farmer carry. Yes. It makes a lot of. sense, especially just trying to. stabilize your spine. Yeah. I'll do that. with like a 70 lb kettle bell and I'll. just like walk up a hill with a 70 lb. kettle bell and I can't get very far. before I have to put it down because my. grip gives out. But I won't use straps. because I think I really want to de like. I've been doing a lot of I carry this.
[ __ ] around with me too cuz we have. this thing in the um comedy club where. it's a like one of those strength things. where you squeeze it. It has a counter. Yeah. And I got to 161 pounds of how. strong you can squeeze. That's the. hardest I've ever gotten. So, I want to. get to 180. So, I've been I've been. squeezing just just grip strength. Just. holding that [ __ ] all the time. This a heavy. You got you got some meaty. paws there, bro. Yeah, I got some pretty. big hands. Yeah, just hold that. [ __ ].
I feel like hand strength to get angry. Hand No, I do. I like to get angry. I. just like to get angry if I can. But. hand strength, I think, is very. important. Most of my work talks about. grip strength and it's very important. indication. I do a lot of hanging, too. I do a lot of hanging from my back or my. shoulders, too. I just hang from a a. chin-up bar. Oh, yeah. I don't like I. don't use How long can you dead hang? Two minutes. Okay. I'm just just about. there myself. Yeah, just around two. minutes. I put those weighted vests on. and and uh that's a good way to do it. The weighted vest for short bursts. I'll.
take like a 12 lb weighted AON vest and. and and I don't think you could do it. with a rock, but but I do those those 12. pound aon vests and I just hang like. this. This is the one one of them too. This one's about 12 lbs. But yeah, I do. one series of all body weightight. workouts where I do chin-ups, push-ups, and then L chin uh L I guess you would. be pull-ups um where where it's a tight. grip. And you know, by L meaning I lift. my legs up and I hold them in position. And I Saladino's got me doing that. So I.
do that most of the time with no extra. weight, but like two times a month, I'll. do it with 25 lbs. So, I put a 25 pound. vest on and do my entire routine with. long blast. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I think. it's actually from Go Rock. It's 25. pound. It's like a like a you know, just. strap it in, velcro it down. And so I'll. do my series of 10 chin-ups, my series. of 20 ch 20 dips, and then 10 L L.
pull-ups. And I'll do that. But you're. talking about like the LS sits where. you're holding the bars and you just put. your feet straight out. Tougher than. they look. But I'm not holding the bar. down here. I'm doing chin-ups. Oh, chin-ups. So, I'm doing the L like this. and then I'm doing these with my foot. straight off. So, it's the abs. It's. like I'm just try I've had like a a. problem with my lower back and I think. uh a lot of it came from I know where it. came from. It came from archery where I. was spending too much time pulling one.
side only and then also I was getting a. little bit of tendonitis and I was just. saying [ __ ] it. Just working through it. Do you try to shoot both sides with your. bow now? No, but what I do now is cuz my. bow's pretty heavy. It's 85 lbs to pull. it back, but I'm doing it like when I'm. really training hard, like it's getting. close to September, I'm probably. shooting 100 times a day. So, I'm 100. times I'm pulling back 85 pounds. So, now what I do, and I learned this from. Cam, I take a 10 lb dumbbell and I hold.
it with my right because I pull my bow. with my right arm. So, I put a 10 pound. dumbbell with my right arm and hold it. out. And then with my left arm, I have a. cable, like a cable machine, and I'm. pulling back the same I'm mimicking the. exact same motion of archery. I see. So, I'm holding in can't. So, you're doing. this in a gym on a on a Yes. Like just a. hand weight. So, I'm holding it like. that and then I'm using the pulley and. I'm pulling the cables back and I'm. holding it for a count or two and then.
bringing it back. Holding it for a count. or two and bringing it back. So I'm. balance out balancing out my back. Are. you a lefty or a righty? So So your. righty is that's where you're holding. your bow. So my right arm I'm pulling. back. I'm holding the bow with my left. arm to stabilize it and I'm pulling it. back with my right arm. So now to. counter that, I immediately go to the. gym right after. So one of the things. I'm noticing is like, boy, I get [ __ ]. so sore on my left side now because this. is fairly recent. I've only been doing. this for a couple months. the left side.
to stabilize it. But I think I should. have been doing it the entire time and. because I was getting like really bad. lower back pain last hunting season and. it was just because of tendons. I was. just overusing you because you're. stabilizing, right? So you're pulling. back the bow and you're holding it in. place and you're stabilizing on your. right side. And after your your form. kind of breaks down all that because you. get a little tired. Now I just when my. feeling my form breaking down, I stop. I. just stop shooting. So instead of. shooting a h 100 times a day, now maybe. I'll shoot 30 or 40 and I just stop. I.
won't push because it's a meatthead. mentality that I my stupid brain like. won't abandon even though I know it's. like injuring me. Yeah. But this this is. it. It actually had became a problem and. it was hurting me when I was playing. pool and I did a bunch of things to deal. with it. One of the things I did is a. thing called New Fit where they put uh. which helped a lot where they put. electrodes on your muscles and then you. go through a series of core routines. while you're doing that. That helped a.
lot. That's cool. And then incorporating. um rotational exercises helped a lot. So. I have like a golf bar. No, I have a bar. like a straight bar and I'll put like my. right leg forward and I'm so I've got it. the bar back on the right side and I'm. twisting forward. So, I'm doing that. So, a lot of rotational exercise. And. I'm also twisting up, you know, and I'm. doing a bunch of different things to. twist. Another thing I do is I sit uh on. a pad with my legs elevated and I have a.
kettle bell and I'll twist it to the. side with my legs up in the air. So, I'm. getting all this rotational exercises. into my system now that I didn't used to. do before, but I really should have been. doing from the beginning. I always did. abs, you know. I always did um you know. the the hip glute thing where you're you. lean all the way back. Yeah. GHD. sit-ups. Yeah. So, yeah. So, I I do I. used to do a lot Well, I still do a lot. of those. Yeah. And then back. extensions, but I wasn't doing. rotational stuff. And I think that's the.
difference. When do you actually when. when is hunting season for you? December. September. Oh, September. Yeah. And where do you go? Like Utah or. Wyoming? Yeah. The photo that you were. asking about out front, that's Utah. Oh, that's Utah. It's beautiful. And you go. out for like a week and you just. gorgeous. Love it. Stay at somebody's. ranch out there. It's just so lovely. Everything about it is great. It's just. I look forward to it so much. That's why. I love the mountains. Like, you know, honestly, I think our long-term plan is. to we got a beautiful place in Miami is.
to is to sell that place and get a spot. Oh, I mean it continue to develop our. spot in Colorado because there's. something about these authentic log. cabins, glacierfed spring water, willing. septic, you know, solar fed electricity, like just old school. I mean, and it. makes you so happy. And I totally agree. with you. I wish I wish that people. could feel what that feeling is like and. they wouldn't chase a lot of other Well, I think there's also some. intangible input that you're getting.
from society that you're not thinking. about, but that affects you that's. absent when you're in the woods and you. feel refreshed because it's a connection. to mother nature. I mean, it's a. connection to life. You know, I think. that we've gotten so but I also think. the absence of society is a thing. I. think I mean this is going to sound. super kooky but I think even Wi-Fi and. cell phone signals I think they have an. effect on you. I don't know how much of. an effect. I think I'll tell you a. story. True story about um so my house.
we have this uh we my wife and I sleep. in an EMF free tent. I went a little. nuts with the biohacking here. So sleep. in a tent, you know. So every night we. have these every every night that we're. home in Miami. So, it's a PVC frame. You. know, it's like uh five and a half feet. tall, six foot tall little frame. It's. just PVC. It's dirt cheap. And then. draped over top of it is pure woven. silver fabric. So, it looks like a. mosquito net that's over our king-size. bed. And in the back of our bed, it.
clips into this uh grounding mattress, which plugs into the wall. So, the whole. cage is grounded. Um, and there's no 5G, no Wi-Fi. That's it right there. Jamie's. got a photo of it. Oh, that's exactly. it. That is literally exactly it. I. wonder if there. So that protects you from Becca's bed in. there. If it would show it because I put. it on the cramp. That's exactly what we. sleep in. Exactly. That EMF shielding. canopy. See, this is like kooky. This is. where you and. I sleep in. If I tried to bring that up, my wife would smack me. Dude, I I also.
have a hyperbaric chamber in our. bedroom. I have a hyperbaric chamber in. the bedroom. No, in my house. Oh, okay. Um, I've got my podcast studio inside of. one now. Inside of a hyperbaric chamber? Inside of a hyperbaric chamber. How big. is your hyperbaric chamber? huge. It's. got two Maybach seats in it. It's got. like a 52 in or 54 in TV. It's got three. AI powered cameras. My gym is in the. hyper bear, too. Well, wouldn't So, here's the thing. I have a rower in. weights, like a whole set of weights. And there's a risk of using electronics. in a high oxygen environment. You don't.
use a high oxygen environment. You know, never think there's any reason to go in. a 100% O2 chamber. I mean, none of my. chambers will go to 100% O2. So, none of. them are flammable. You could have a. candle inside of there. Theoretically, I. don't suggest it, but you could. They. would tell you to not even wear certain. kinds of clothes in the hyperbaric. chamber. Yeah. Because if you have 100%. O2, you can have static electricity and. can light a spark and it could explode. So, what is 100% O2 versus like what. you're doing? So, you have to actually. put medical grade oxygen into the. chamber, which I don't do, but you.
don't. So, so the one that I used to go. to, they would give you a mask and you. would wear the mask and oxygen would get. pumped into your mask while you're in. the hyperbaric chamber, you know. Yeah. So, that's also not flammable. That's. probably 92 93%. O2. Pure oxygen, 100% oxygen is. flammable. It's just like pure hydrogen. gas is flammable. So 100% O2 is. flammable. I mean that terrible accident. that happened to that young boy um in. the Midwest here recently where the. hyperbaric chamber actually exploded. What happened? Um yeah, I mean this a.
young I think it was 5 and a half year. old little boy um uh was in a hyperbaric. chamber and very sadly the technician. left him in there, didn't ground him. Um. and um and he had a blanket in there. with him and he moved the blanket and. this static electricity, you know, caught 100% O2. Oh, exploded. His mother. was injured, too. Oh my god. I want to. say that the both of the the nurse and. the doctor and the clinic owner have. been charged with with manslaughter. Oh. my god. Terrible. But the the those are.
100% O2 chambers. It's clear. I mean, it's important to make the distinction. that these 100% oxygen chambers, I mean, these are these are bombs. I mean, and. why would you have a 100% O2 chamber. versus what you talked about? So if you. look at some of the therapeutic benefits. for things like diabetic ulcers, burns, um things like that where um you know. necrosis, tissue necrosis, um those make sense in a supervised. hospital environment with you know.
someone standing right outside the. chamber the entire time. I've been in. I've been in one one time in place. called Bio Accelerator in Medigene. Columbia and um but the the home use. chamber is where you get a prescription. from your doctor and you actually get a. probably what you have. Is yours a soft. shell? No chamber. It's a hard shell. Oh, okay. So that'll probably go to two. atmospheres of pressure. It's really. good. Um so Dr. Jason Saunders who wrote. the book hyperbaric medicine with uh Dr. Dmitri um will tell you there's a lot of.
benefits at at low pressures like 1.3. atmospheres which you can get in in a. soft chamber and there are a lot of. benefits at higher pressures like two. atmospheres. So I never go above two. atmospheres twice the atmospheric. pressure. If you think about what's. happening at twice the atmospheric. pressure you're taking the oxygen from. the air which is about 21% sea level. what we're breathing right now and. you're doubling that because you're. doubling the pressure. So every 33 feet. you go below sea level, you double the. atmospheric pressure. Um, so when you.
get to two atmospheres of pressure, you're you're essentially taking in. twice as much oxygen. The oxygen. concentration hasn't increased, but the. size of the uh gas has gotten smaller. So now you're profusing tissues with. oxygen that they that normally. wouldn't be as profused with oxygen. You. can also put on a nasal canulus and get. 92 93% O2, but that's also not. flammable. If you took a nasal canulus. from uh from an oxygen concentrator like.
one that works for your e-wad or. something and you let a lighter in front. of it, it would that that gas is not. going to catch fire. Okay. 100% O2 is is. is flammable and very dangerous. So, what's the benefit of 100% O2? just a. higher concentration of oxygen for. things like you know diabetic ulcers. when you have um uh anorobic bacterial. infections. Um meaning bacterial. infections that do not thrive on oxygen.
Uh you have to be careful with aerobic. bacteria because there are bacteria that. actually feed on on oxygen as well. And. so you don't want to put somebody who. has an aerobic infection into a. hyperaric chamber. you want to put. somebody who has an anorobic infection. into a hyperbaric chamber. But what's. really interesting is, you know, some of. the research that's coming out of um uh. Israel especially on cognitive function. um using 60 days at uh two atmospheres. of pressure and then reducing the.
pressure over time. um you know the the. improvement in mitochondrial density uh. the improvement in blood flow um. cognitive scoring uh reduction of neural. inflammation um you know I know uh you. can't say treat or cure but they they. use these to modulate uh autism um all. kinds of neurinflammatory conditions. Parkinson's Alzheimer's. uh which is really linked to type type. three diabetes which is insulin. resistance in the brain but the The.
byproduct of that is this neural. inflammatory cascade. So reducing neural. inflammation. Um you know there are a. lot of benefits to hyperbaric tissue. recovery postsurgical wound repair. postsurgical recovery. You know these. these things have pretty profound and. there's also that study out of Israel. that showed the lengthening of telomeres. when they did a protocol of 60 sessions. Yes. 90 minute sessions over 90 days. Yes. 60 days or 60 sessions in 90 days.
60 sessions in in in 90 days. 60 90. minute sessions in 90 days. You're. right. Yeah, Dr. Saunders talked about. that a lot too. And they showed a. telomere lengthening which was the. biological equivalent of a decrease of. age of 20 years. Yeah. It's a. chromosomal encap. Um and if you think. about it, I have a saying that that you. know the presence of oxygen is the. absence of disease. And I truly believe. that because if you look at the. breakdown in mitochondrial respiration.
which occurs when you deprive the. mitochondria of all kinds of things but. mainly of oxygen which is our fuel. source you know which is not not our. fuel source as humans our fuel source is. ATP but the fuel source for the. mitochondria mainly oxygen and when you. feed it oxygen you have a 16-fold step. up in cellular energy when you deprive. it of oxygen you have a 16-fold step. down in cellular their energy, right? I. mean, the difference between aerobic and. anorobic respiration or the KB cycle.
having the presence of oxygen or not. having the presence of oxygen is a. pretty substantial number. And so, um, hyperarics because they allow for. compressed oxygen, even if you don't. increase the percentage of O2, right? You take it, you keep it at 21% like. we're breathing right now, but you just. double the atmospheric pressure. I mean, the the effects are pretty pretty. profound. M um and and I believe the. risks are low if you have a physician, you understand how to operate the.
chamber and you have safety procedures. and you're not using 100% O2 and you're. you're at shallow depths, you can ascend. quickly without being in trouble. If. you're a diver, you understand dive. tables, you have to ascend at certain. rates and pause at certain levels. So. the one that that I I built, I was like, man, how do I just compress time? I'm. like, well, I'm going to work out, so. what if I was able to put the gym in. there and doing podcast? I remember the. guy thought I was out of my freaking. body started talking. It does sound.
crazy. Yeah, but it's got a it's it's. got a Nord Track rower in there. And And. how big is it? Like the size of this. room. It's It's pretty big. Let me see. if I can show you a picture of it. Um. that would be a great way to like. compress. time more than one thing at the same. time. You feel amazing. I feel amazing. getting out. That's actually my son. working in it. Wow. Wow. That's crazy. So that's my son Dylan. We went in there. working out in a hyperbaric chamber and. he could kind of watch Netflix in there.
too. Yeah. He got a screen in there and. everything. Wow. And uh it's got uh. Yeah, we're just jamming some music. And then he does the. Wow. Playing a little rap music. So I was. playing I was playing some rap music. I. got a sound bar in there. That's pretty. dope. Yeah, it was pretty cool. That's. awesome. Um, yeah, I just lay down in. mine and listen to books. Um, well, the. other one you can lay down in. It's it's. it's got these seats that recline. It's.
got a television in it, too. So, you can. I go in there watch the news sometimes. Oh, that's great. Yeah. My wife and. daughter goes in there and they just. take a nap. I was talking to Dana about. it, like how beneficial it is. Like, how. much time does it take? I'm like, it's. about two hours. And he's like, I don't. have that [ __ ] time. everything. You. got to do something. You're doing the. red light. That's trying to compress. time. Like just like if you could get. the, you know, the hydrogen into the. cold tub. I mean, he's going to be he's. going to be at my my house tomorrow. So, we're going to try that. How much are. those little bombs for the bath? The.
hydrogen bombs. Uh, I know they're about. to come out with them. I don't know if. you can order them on the site yet. I. think they're probably going to be if. it's if it's 30 bucks for 30 of those H2. tabs, um then I would imagine they're. going to be around five or 10 bucks. Okay. Um 10 bucks for a hydrogen bomb to. drop into the to the bathtub. I mean, the machine is, you know, I was actually. originally going to order this um. electrolysis system called a cocoon um. or it's spelled Cquin, like uh the.
facility out in Las Vegas um which makes. oxygen water. that system is like. $110,000. And then a buddy of mine, Tyler Learon, who's the PhD um in the. space, um told me about this machine I. could order from Korea for $7,500, which. is the one that I have now. And now um. I've added a a nanobubble machine. Um. and that one's just incredible. I mean, for for this transdermal inflammation. And I think for for people that have.
like, you know, chronic injuries, especially like chronic repetitive use. injuries or they have real severe low. back pain or they've got parents or. something that are deconditioned, you. know, that that have a hard time. Um, exercising, you know, these are these. are, you know, great things to to to do. to lower their inflammatory cascade. you. know that and um there's something. called EWAD exercise with oxygen therapy. which is kind of based on Otto Warberg's. research where and I do this with my. parents because both of my parents are.
deconditioned. My mom has dual knee. replacements and my dad is handicapped. from a boating accident years ago. Um he. has no cognitive impairment but he has. some motor coordination difficulties so. it's hard for him to really exercise. And um I I I bought them a sauna and I. put them both in a sauna for um 20. minutes three times a week and they just. breathe. I I board a hole and they just. breathe through a nasal canulus then 92. 93% O2 which is a version of EWAT the. exercise with oxygen therapy or the.
multi-step oxygen therapy because if you. just can raise their heart rate just you. know a little bit with the heat then. that extra profusion pressure really. drives oxygen into the tissues and I'll. tell you it's a noticeable change in. them just like when you get out of a. cold plunge you had a really good. workout well imagine you know you're. elderly and you're deconditioned you. know you really don't get your heart. rate up. You really don't get your good. sweat on, but you go into a a sauna, raise your heart rate, and and breathe. some of that 92 93% O2, you they they.
feel amazing getting out of there. This. is a kind of important thing to talk. about because there was a study that was. released recently that showed um that. when people use the cold plunge after. workout, you see a decrease in. hypertrophy. Of course you do. Yeah, this is a terrible study. I was pissed. off to see that. I was cuz people like, "Yeah, told you it doesn't work." all. these [ __ ] that don't want to get in. that cold water. Folks, you do the cold. before. This is the way to do it. I know. it sucks. Do the cold before you work. out or wait several hours after you work.
out and then you cold plunge, right? I. totally agree. I mean, if you think. about what you get from cold plunging, let's not overblow it or underblow. I. mean, but you know, you get um well, first of all, if you if you exercised. intensely, let's just say you did a big. squat workout and you tore a bunch of. quad muscle, what's going to happen? Um, what's the body going to do? Yeah, the. body's going to send more blood flow, more amino acids, um more more oxygen to. those muscles. It's going to pull. inflammatory factors like creatinin, you.
know, the the breakdown of muscle uh the. byproduct of muscle breakdown. It's. going to pull that out. So, why would. you want to say it's creatinin? Creatinin. Okay. Creatine is Right. Right. Right. You take I never knew how. to say that word though. I've seen it. Yeah. Which which is actually very. goodin. Yeah. Yeah. So because I know. there was a fighter that was actually. pulled from a fight once cuz he had high. creatinin levels. Yeah. That's a kidney. issue. Um it's actually a sign of. rabdomiitis, right? Overtraining. Yes.
That makes sense because he was a. psycho. Yeah. You start to break down. So, so creatinin is is a byproduct of. muscle breakdown. It's perfectly normal. to have creatinin in the blood, but when. it gets very high, so there's usually. three markers they look at for kidney. health. One is called blood ura nitrogen. bun. One is called creatinin. This. breakdown of muscle byproduct and rabdo. is when your muscles start to break down. at a rate that your kidneys can't clear. it. A lot of people that go too hard.
when they're not in shape, like they dig. too many CrossFit classes, they get. robbed. Yes. They get rabbed though. And. and what's interesting is, you know, a. lot of a lot of athletes, really. conditioned athletes, get it, too, because they have a tendency to be. mentally a lot stronger than their. bodies. That's the problem. That meat. head mentality that I was talking about. that led to me having this tendon issue. in my lower back. Yeah. Cuz I was. worried that it was a disc issue, but. it's not in the disc. It's like right. here on the right hip area where it's. like the stabilizing muscle. But you you.
so you think about it. Okay. So the the. blood and then there's something called. EGFR which is your kidney filtration. rate, right? Which is your glomemeular. filtration rate. It's how quickly is the. blood moving through your kidneys. because about 15 times every day the. full volume of your blood goes through. your kidneys. But if you think about. what happens when you get into a cold. plunge, so first you get this peripheral. vaso constriction. Um, and then you get. a uh a release of of something called. cold shock proteins. And if you ever.
really want to have some fun, just. Google around about cold shock proteins. Look at LIN 28A and LIN 28B. These are. cold shock proteins that are being. actually researched for their impact on. insulin sensitivity, improving insulin. sensitivity. Um, and then uh you know, you activate a very special type of fat. called brown fat, which essentially. exchanges a calorie for a measure of. heat. So, it takes a calorie and turns. it into heat. And that's a very good. thing. If I'm taking calories and. turning them into heat, you know, there's a cost to raising your.
thermostat. And you think if you're in, let's say, 50°ree water and you get out. of 50°ree water and you're standing in a. 70°ree room, how's your body go to 98.6, right? How do you actually not only how. do you exceed the the temperature of the. room you're in? Well, your metabolism is. raised largely because of the activation. of brown fat. And there's a cost to. that. The cost is calories. So, anybody. tells you that cold plunging is not good. for burning fat, I think, is missing the.
the breath of the of of the science. And. then the final thing you get is you get. this spike of dopamine which lasts. hours. Yes. And that's where you get. that like laser focus. I feel freaking. good. You feel so good, dude. You're. never in a bad mood getting out of a. co-pound, right? That's another thing. that if you could give that to people in. a pill, they'd be like, "Oh my god, I. found the best anti-depressant." Yeah. Yeah. That's a gold punch. So true. Well, one thing is beneficial though. post-workout is sauna, right? In. beneficial for muscle growth. Yes. Yes. And also as a static cardio, correct?
Cuz your heart rate's already elevated. I like to go in literally the moment I. put the weights down, I get right into. that 196°. The 20th minute's tough. though, bro. The 25th minute's even. tougher. Oh, you go. Yeah, that's the. the last five. I used to get to the the. 20 and I'd be like, "Okay, finally." And. then the [ __ ] general started. talking. No. Yeah. Come on, [ __ ] Five. more minutes. Oh, no. And the the thing. is, too, when I'm in the sauna, I'm not. just sitting there. I'm hard stretching.
I do deep stretches, which is. exhausting, too, because it's it's hard. to do, you know? I'm holding like deep. static stretches. You're pretty. flexible, though, right? Yeah, pretty. flexible. That's so cool. But that's. because I keep it. I mean, I'm 57. I. keep my flexibility. Yeah. Yeah. Going. into the saw post, you know, there's a. lot of people as they get older, they. they lose that flexibility. And I think. that's another thing that I actually, if. I'm criticizing myself, I didn't do. enough of before I started [ __ ] my. lower back up. Lower back's pretty solid.
now, though. It's still like irritates. me sometimes when I wake up in the. morning, but it's nothing that stops me. from doing anything. I can still kick. the bag, which is that was the big one. like because you're there's so much. torque involved in the waist when you're. kicking the bag and I hate not being. able to do that. So, the fact that I can. still get those workouts in is really. huge for me. That is the absolute best. stress reliever in the history of. kicking bags of mother earth. Yeah. Hitting a bag, put put some 16 gloves.
on, set a timer and start doing rounds. on the bag. Start slow and you know what. do you we start at like 30 seconds a. minute. Oh, I do three minute rounds. I. do three minute rounds and then one. minute rest. Three minute rounds one. But but the first few rounds while I'm. warming up, I'm just kind of tapping. I'm like. bap. I'm just I'm not full blasting it. But then around four when I'm really. sweating, then I start to dig in. And. then what I do what I do is um I have. two different timers. And one of them I.
have this ringside timer that will give. you these 30 second um like dings. So. it'll give you three minutes, but it. gives a different sound that goes off at. at 30 seconds. And so that's like Why? So you know you're halfway through the. minute. No. So you you know when to. sprint. So you have sprinting times and. then you have other times where you're. sort of coasting and then the the number. goes off and you sprint. And then I'll. also do Tabatas. And so Tabatas, that. protocol is 20 seconds work, 10 seconds. rest. So I do that protocol. My favorite.
way to do that one is actually on the. aine. So I have that. Oh, that a dine. too. The Rogue machine is the best. It's. called the Echo Bike. The Rogue is like. made they make the It's such a sturdy. [ __ ] rock solid piece of equipment. They really [ __ ] dig in. Yeah, it's a. Rogue one though. They call it the Echo. Bike. Some of them get a a picture of. the Rogue one. It's much sturdier than. the other ones that I've seen. And so I. do and it has Tabata built into the.
system. So you can just press so brutal. Yeah. So it's eight eight reps of this. So 20 second sprint, 10 second rest, 20. second sprint, 8 sec 10 second rest. You. do that for eight a series of eight. So. that's the rogue one. It's real thick. and robust and you go [ __ ] ham on. that. That's called the echoike. Yeah, it's for me the best way to increase my. cardio. That Tabata protocol, I don't. know, some guy named Tabata invented. that protocol. But um what is that uh.
treadmill with the weights? Yeah. Oh, the hit treadmill. Yeah, that's great, too. Yeah, I ordered one. of those. Oh, you walk in with weights. like Oh, so it's like a farmer's game. Exactly. But you're going uphill on a. treadmill. [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah. Let's go. Come on, dog. Let's go. It's all about work, you know, getting your body to slowly build up to. more and more work. Make sure you're. taking mineral salts when you're doing. that. Oh, I I take a lot of [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm always Well, I use.
element, you know, that Yeah. Lment tea. I take that stuff and I put a b I'm. addicted to that chili mango flavor. Oh, it's so good. Oh, of tea. Oh, it's so. good. Spicy a little bit. Just a touch. just a touch of spice. I really like it. Touch of spice. So, I'll have like a 64. ouncez water with four of those poured. into it and Oh, 64 ounces. Yeah. And so, I'm just hammering it. So, but that's. made a giant impact in cramps. I don't. get cramps anymore. Yeah. A lot of.
people think that, you know, sodium is, it's funny how many people think sodium. is the enemy. There's a really. interesting [ __ ] like the like the. cholesterol [ __ ] Like, there's so. many people like, "What? Oh, your. sodium, you're going to have a high. blood pressure, you're going to die.". Yeah. All your cholesterol from your. carnivore diet, you're going to die. Like, [ __ ] come work out with me. You'll die. Yeah. You'll die. [ __ ]. come out. I'll kill you. Yeah. Just one. leg kick. No, I mean with the workout, it's fun. I take people through my.
workout. I love taking people through it. cuz I've done it for so long that it's. it's so hard, but I've built my system. up to be able to tolerate it. So when I. bring people in, even people that work. out, they're like, Jesus Christ, like. this is a lot of [ __ ] Like Yeah. Yeah. How long do you work out? 90 minutes. It's at least 90 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I I do what's called when I'm not. doing endurance training, I do the. strong first protocol. So Pavle. Tatselene, he developed this kettle bell. protocol where so a lot of people like. to work to failure. Um I don't work to.
failure ever, but I do the same amount. of reps. So like say if I have uh a 70. lb kettle bell, right? And I'm doing. cleans and presses. If I can do I could. probably do 20 reps to failure by. cleans. Are you pulling it just to your. chin? Are you talking about all the way. up? So one arm kettle bell swing press. Yeah. down clean press. Like if I go to. failure, I don't know. I probably could. do like 20 reps with 70 pounds. But I. don't do 20 reps. I do 10 and then I put.
it down and then I wait like several. minutes and then I'll do my left side. and then I wait several minutes more and. then I'll do my right side again. So I. am completely rested by the time I do my. second set. So I'm getting those 20 reps. in, but I'm doing it in two sets rather. than in one set. And so then I'll just. do multiple sets to get the same amount. of work in. I I think I heard him. describing this to you. It's it's the. amount of work. Yes. Right. So he's.
outworked you. Yes. Because he's done. more. But you have to have time and you. you will feel like a lazy [ __ ] because. you're doing your set, but then your. your heart rate's completely drop down. before you do it again. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I take a long time. I watch TV. I'll get on my phone. I [ __ ] off. I sit. down and you feel like a lazy [ __ ] but. I'm doing it over two plus hours. Wow. So, when it's all over, I'm getting a. lot of reps, but I'm not getting the.
same breakdown of form. So, the way he. says it is he he says that strength is a. skill and that you shouldn't be doing. skills when you're exhausted. like he he. doesn't believe in like CrossFit and. like all these workouts where you're. going to like extreme repetitions where. you're breaking down your body's fail. People get injured that way a lot. Yeah, they do. And some people don't, you. know, but these are elite athletes and. you build yourself up to it and I. understand. I'm not against Have you. noticed that you've got I'm not either,
but have you noticed that you've gotten. a lot stronger? Oh, yeah. Like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. By doing it this way. Well, this is the thing. Like I don't. bench press, but one time we were doing. this uh this podcast and we were. drinking and we were drunk and we all. like went to see like I don't even I. don't bench press, but I I bench press. 225 13 times and I don't do it. I don't. do it. I was like, let's see. And I was. like, "Yep, but that's no bench. pressing. I don't bench press." And what. do you do for your chest? I do push-ups. I do 100 push-ups a day and I do dips.
That's it. Yeah, dips are dips are. great. Yeah. So, I don't like have a big. chest. So, what else do you do do you. supplement with? So, you take like. creatine. Creatine is amazing every day. I think, you know, especially for women, by the way. I think if you're a female. and you're 40 years or older, you need. to be taken. I think it's great for your. mind, too. There's been studies for. cognitive function. Cognitive function. and also cognitive function. If you're. sleep impaired, it's one of the few. things that's shown that can completely. diminish the effects of sleep. deprivation. You should most certainly.
make up for that sleep. Don't get me. wrong. I'm not saying you don't need. sleep. just take creatine. You. definitely need sleep. We were talking. about this the other day. I think it's. one of the most important things that. people neglect. I think so, too. Um, so. I I take creatine every day. I take all. the supplements that you recommended to. me. Uh, TMG, methylolate. I take lots of. vitamin D, K2. Yeah. All that jazz. Do. you take that 10x optimized? You take. the the multivitamin or do you take them.
separately? I take everything. separately. take I take uh I use pure. encapsulations vitamin packs. Yeah. So. they have a pack that has like basically. all your [ __ ] and then on top of that I. pile on you know one other thing that. I've started taking that I've been. taking actually for a while that it I. was having uh a decrease in my eyesight. and it was pretty noticeable as you know. age related macular degeneration. So I. started taking macular support by pure. encapsulations that seems to have had an. effect but really what's had an effect. is the red light bed. I know red light.
bed has had a big effect. I told people. like you text me and you're like, "Bro, my eyesight is totally improved." Mine. stopped deteriorating and start It. improved slightly. Yeah. It's definitely. were the point where I could look at my. phone. I don't need glasses cuz I was. using reading glasses all the time when. I was looking at my phone and now I. don't need them at all anymore. Yeah. Um. I would I would Yeah, definitely. Uh uh. red light therapy. I would add um what I. gave you the other day, those uh perfect. aminos, which is just essentially the. nine essential amino acids. You know, we.
talk about how most people are trying to. dose protein so they can get to the. amino acid equivalent or they're taking. imperfect proteins like or incomplete. proteins like collagen, which which. can't build which is a great protein, but it won't build muscle because then. but this is an important point, too. You. were talking about the other day that. collagen does not build collagen. And. there's this Yeah. I mean, I think that. the idea that we can target direct. proteins is is is a fallacy. I, you. know, I use the analogy that we don't. eat our nails to grow our nails and we. don't eat our hair to grow our hair, but. we think that we can eat collagen to.
grow collagen. And that's actually not. true. I'm not anti-ollagen. I'm just. saying if you eat collagen or put. collagen in your coffee, it doesn't show. up as collagen in your skin. Um, my. preference would be you take something. that is a uh has all of the nine. essential amino acids. I take one called. perfect aminos, but there's other. products out there that are all nine. essential amino acids. You take um Can I. pour that into the water with the um. hydrogen with the electrolytes in it? 100%. It's not going to have any.
diminished. I I think the best morning. cocktail is to take a mineral salt like. a Baja Gold salt or a um uh Celtic salt. um add that to your um drinking water. Drop a hydrogen tablet in there. Take a. scoop of perfect aminos. Put that in. there. Hydrate, mineralize, and and get. the amino acids. Can I ask you another. question about creatine? Is there any. decreased benefit in taking creatine. gummies versus creatine powder? Um you. know, I don't I haven't looked at the at. the at the bioavailability. I mean,
there's there's two types of creatine, which is, you know, monohydrate and HCL. Monohydrate is where all of the research. is. There's a lot more research. uh on. creatine monohydrate. Um but creatine. also comes in the HDL, the hydrochloride. form. And I I tell people that if they. if they take creatine monohydrate and. they and they have bloating, which some. women do, they'll have a little water. retention or some bloating, then just. take the creatine HCL. What about HMG. with creatine? No issues if not at all. Is that a good thing? Because I know.
that a lot of companies they combine. creatine and HMG for some reason. Yes. What is the benefit of that combining. the two of them together? I uh so. myophibbral uptake or cellular uptake, right? So bioavailability is a lot of. these a lot of things that we we pair. together for bioavailability like uh D3. with K2, you know, and magnesium as. well, right? Yeah. And magnesium is one. of the critical deficiencies. I always. take that with D3 and K2. That's good. You take magnesium with D3 and K2. That's perfect. That's a way that. wouldn't, you know, we Can you take too. much magnesium? Um you can take too much.
magnesium. It's a little hard. I mean, it's a really essential light metal. I. mean, you would have to really overs. supplement with that. I take a nighttime. uh I take this thing called by Bio. Optimizer. It's called magnesium. breakthrough, which has seven forms of. magnesium in it. Um I'm a big fan of. that. You can also isolate the. magnesiums if you have trouble sleeping. Magnesium 3inate is really good. Um. magnesium citrate and glycinate are good. for intestinal motility. So, if you're. not somebody that has regular bowel. movements, um magnesium deficiency is.
highly linked to poor intestinal. motility. So, if you're not somebody. that wakes up within 45 minutes of the. day and has a bowel movement, um you may. want to look to, you know, magnesium. supplementation the night prior and see. if that fixes your your bowel movement. Also, you know, people that have that. ruminate at night who, you know, they. lay down to go to sleep and their body. tired, but their mind awake. Um, this is. generally a rise in something called. catakolamines. These these. neurotransmitters in the brain that.
create awakened state. They're also the. same neurotransmitters that create. anxiety and trigger our fight orflight. response. Uh, a lot of times magnesium, methylolate, um, and a simple B complex will quiet. those those squirrels. Very, very simple. methylated nutrients to actually break. down those catakolamines because, you. know, I talk about this all the time. A. lot of people that suffer from anxiety. are never really told what it is. like.
nobody sits them down and tells them. what is anxiety like why do I feel um. why do sometimes I feel like I'm in a. heightened state of awareness and then I. move from a heightened state of. awareness to being anxious and then I. move from being anxious to full-blown. anxiety like I actually feel the. presence of a fear and then um you know. sometimes that presence of a fear goes. into um like a rapid heart rate or acute. hearing or pupils dilate and then that. goes into a full-blown panic attack and.
if if catakolamines continue to rise, you can even have a full-blown paranoia. It's it's this rise in this category of. neurotransmitters called catakolamines. So, if we. identified anxiety as that, and I'm not. saying it's always that, but the. majority of people have that form where. uh they have metabolism issues because. of a gene mutation called comp t. And. they are worriers, not warriors. So they. lay down to go to sleep at night, their. mind wakes up, they start ruminating.
thoughts at night. If they think about. anything at night, they'll take it. straight to worst case scenario. So. every scenario that they that they. ruminate on at night, they take it to. worst case scenario. Um that's crazy. that that could be nutritionally. related. It's absolutely nutritionally. related because when you when you talk. about what do catakolamines do in the. body, there are fight-or-flight. response. So, if you if you walked out. of this door right here and somebody was. standing in front of you with a knife uh. right in that hallway, your besides. kicking their ass, your pupils would.
dilate, your heart rate would increase, your extremities would flood with blood, your hearing would get acute, you would. instantly start having a fight orflight. response. Well, what happened, right? I. mean, that person didn't do anything to. you yet. What happened inside of your. body that caused that response? you. received a dump of catakolamines, norepinephrine, epinephrine, uh, fedrron, and dopamine. One of those we. call adrenaline. So, so you're in this. hyperaccute state. So, that's that's. like we dump those to an eight,
full-blown fight orflight response. Well, what happens if we dump them to a. three? Well, if that happens at night, your body tired, but your mind awake. And so you lay there just ruminating. because your mind is in awakened state. even though your body is tired. And so. if you look at the pathways that. actually break down catakolamines, how. do we downregulate catakolamines? Complex of B vitamins, a form of a form. of uh B12 called methylcobalamin which. you can get anywhere. Um guys, um a uh.
something called methyl folate. Um, and. every once in a while, uh, Sammy. acidenosomethion, it is astounding what. you can do to human beings by putting. those raw materials back. Has anybody. ever done a study on people with. paranoid schizophrenia to find out if. they're lacking in all this? No, no. doubt. Paranoid schizophrenia are are. the next level. You know what's what's. really interesting is I interviewed a. Harvard uh physician on my uh podcast. and he was treating drugresistant me.
mental illness with um diet mainly keto. diets. And he found that the beta. hydroxybutyrate, which is the ketone. body, the main ketone body in in this. and and basic supplementation, fixing. their methylation pathways, um meaning. supplementing for for methylation, poor. conversion of certain chemicals, um led to more better behavioral changes. than they were having in the. drugresistant um uh mental illness.
group. And it's it's really fascinating. because we don't like to think that. nutrient deficiencies could lead to. serious mental illness. Could could you. um just uh Google uh methylation chart? Can I just show you a chart of. methylation? The reason why I want to. put it up here is because um and just. click on any one of them. Once you once. you put it up there, it's going to look. like this complicated myriad. Just Yeah, click on that one. Um, so this is.
something I've committed to memory, but. um, the reason why I show a lot of. people this chart um, is for what's not. on here. So this is what we call. methylation. Okay, this is this is the. process that's going on 300 billion. times a day inside of all of your cells. And you'll see tryptophan and tyrrosine. and phenyl alanine and koninoic acid, lactic acid, cholesterol. You see all of. this stuff on this chart. The reason why. I show people this chart is because this. is going on 300 billion times a day.
inside of your body um every minute and. every hour of every day. And what you do. not see on this chart is a single. synthetic, a single chemical or a single. pharmaceutical. So why is it that we. think synthetics, pharmaceuticals, and. chemicals could be the answer to. deficiencies in this. chart? They're not. So, what happens if. I just start wandering around this chart. and I find something like serotonin and.
I go, "Wow, let me just let me just. serotonin is the main driver of mood. I. wonder how serotonin is made." Oh, I. actually, in fact, there's serotonin. right there. What is it made from? Just. follow that arrow up. Oh, it's made from. tryptophan. And what do I need in order. to convert tryptophan to serotonin? I. need 5HTP. I need thamine. I need a. complex of B vitamins. Could it be. possible that a complex of B vitamins is. stopping me from converting tryptophan.
into serotonin? Yes. And what happens if. I can't convert tryptophan into. serotonin? Serotonin drops. And if. serotonin drops, I cannot assemble moods. that require serotonin. So now I've been. told I have a mood disorder and I have a. nutrient deficiency. Look at this. Anxiety, ADD, ADHD. See that on there? Mhm. Okay. What what do we make um. dopamine from? Phenol alanine and. tyrrosine. What if I had a deficiency in. phenol alanine or tyrrosine? Oh, I. couldn't make the neurotransmitter. dopamine. What is dopamine? Dopamine is.
the main driver of behavior. Well, what. happens if dopamine is low? Now, I have. an addiction. Why? Because the absence. of dopamine is the presence of. addiction. So, could I have addictive. behavior because I'm low in dopamine and. not actually just addicted to nicotine, alcohol, drugs, permiscuity, gambling? Absolutely. And why is it that most de. most addictions have a tendency to shift. and never really go away? If you've ever. really been an addict or ever known a. true addict, um why is it that their.
addiction has a tendency to shift and. not go away? Yeah. Like some of them. find a healthy thing to get addicted to. like running. Yeah. They'll be a So, alcoholics become workahco. workaholics. become work alcoholics. I mean, when I. used to compete amateur in in in. long-distance triathlons, um uh most of. the guys that I raced with were. recovering addicts of some kind. Some of. the scariest guys I've ever trained with. were former drug addicts cuz they're. this is their new They're [ __ ] driven.
like in a weird kind of crazy way. Why. are they driven so hard? Well, some of. them actually almost died and they. realized that. But you know, I've been. to death store and come back. The. absence of dopamine is the presence of. addiction. And we never treat the. dopamine deficiency. We only treat the. physical addiction. So we get you off. alcohol and now you're on, you know, Suboxone. You get you off Suboxone and. now you're gambling. You're off of. gambling and smoking cigarettes and. you're done smoking cigarettes. You're, you know, so a lot of alcoholics. synonyonymous people are smoking.
cigarettes and drinking coffee. constantly. Now, why is that? Because. they're they're chasing the dopamine. deficiency. Rarely if ever did a true. out you know addict wake up one day and. just say I want to get really banged up. The majority of addicts woke up one day. and said I want to feel normal. And it was the search for. normaly that developed the addiction. They smoked a cigarette. They felt. normal. They took a drink and they could. socialize. Um they were promiscuous and. they kind of felt normal. They jumped. off a [ __ ] mountain in a squirrel.
suit and the rush of dopamine actually. brought their dopamine level to normal. They actually felt calm 15 in away from. death. And so the deficiency in dopamine. very often drives this. And we label. these people with mental illnesses. We. label them with um mood disorders. But. serotonin is a po part of the recipe of. mood. So if you said to me, what is a. mood? What is an emotional state? I. would say it's a collection of.
neurotransmitters bound to oxygen. So. let's say that that you said, okay, what's happiness? Okay, there's so much. serotonin, so much dopamine, so much. norepinephrine, so much epinephrine. Boom, you put these together, you have. the emotion happiness. Well, what if I. just took serotonin out, right? Like. what if I went to a bakery chef and. said, "Hey, chef, you can bake whatever. you want. You just can't use butter.". And so I took butter out. And doesn't. sound like a big deal. It's only one one. component, but think of how many recipes. that would affect. cookies, pastries,
pies, brownies. Well, the moods are no. different. I say, Joe, you can be in. whatever mood you want. You just can't. use serotonin. So now any mood that you. go to assemble that requires serotonin, you can't manufacture. So now you have a. mood disorder. Instead of taking a step. back and saying, "Well, why doesn't he. have serotonin? Where's serotonin made?". Well serotonin is made in the gut. 90%. of it's right here. So if you don't have. it here, you can't have it here. And and.
so then why don't we go to the factory. in the gut that makes serotonin? Where. is the factory that turns tryptophan. into um the neurotransmitter serotonin? Well, it's in it's in the gut. What is. that done? Through a process called. methylation. You mean if I'm deficient. in certain vitamins or nutrients, um. that methylation cycle is not working. and I might not produce serotonin and. therefore I might have a mood disorder. Yes. Am I saying that all mood disorders. come from that? No. But there are so. many things that come from this.
methylation cycle that are so uh. potentially easy to fix with basic. supplementation. You know, for two years. um for two years in in our initial. clinic, my wife and I uh and our doctor, we we we pulled blood work. I think it. was about a 1600 uh patients or so that. came through our clinic. So we pulled. blood work and we pulled these basic. biomarkers CBC, CMP, lipid panel, hormone panel and nutrient deficiencies. And then we also pulled this methylation.
test, right? Looking at five genes of. methylation and and um and and you can. get these methylation tests done. anywhere. And we looked at these five. genes and then what we would do is we. would solve um with supplementation for. the genetic deficiency and watch what. happened to the blood biomarkers. You would see kidney filtration rates. improve. You would see waste elimination. like people become more regular. You. would see uh C reactive protein, these. these non-specific markers of.
inflammation drop. You would certainly. see things like homocyine drop. People. have that very very high levels of. homocyine. you supplement them with the. right um nutrients, a B complex, something called trimethoglycine, and. they start to break down homocyine, and. then all of a sudden they're reporting. that their blood pressure is returning. to normal and have um less frequent. headaches. It is astounding to me how. many people are just nutrient deficient. and don't accept that basic. supplementation or oh, we can get. everything from diet [ __ ] If you. look at a soil lineage study from 1945.
and a soil lineage study right now, you. would be astounded to see how depleted. our food supply is or our soil is. Add. processed food and all this other stuff. to it. You don't stand a chance. You. need you need basic supplementation. All. human beings need the same things. We. need two essential fatty acids. Essential means they're essential for. life. Um you need nine essential amino. acids. So, you can supplement with the. nine essential amino acids in the. morning. You can supplement with the two.
essential fatty acids, omega-3 fatty. acids like uh black seed oil or good. omega fish oil. You can supplement with. the. minerals. So many of us are mineral. deficient and we don't realize the. expression of mineral deficiency. Now, what is the best kind of minerals to. take? Is it like chelated minerals? Is. it colloidal? There's one called Baja. Gold Sea salt. It's probably one of my. other favorite bio hacks because a bag. of Baja Gold sea salt, like a Celtic.
salt, will have all these trace minerals. in it. A $15 bag will last you five. years. It's dirt uh cheap. And you can. take a quarter to a half teaspoon of. this, put it in in your drinking water. I'll throw a hydrogen tablet in there. and some amino acids. take that with a. methylated multivitamin and take that. with um an omega-3 fatty acid and you. have all the bases covered first thing. in the morning. And if you have you. don't have to take that with the. vitamins with food. Um I would take the.
vitamin D3 with food. I would actually. take all of that when I would take the. the amino acids and the the hydrogen and. the and the uh sea salt on an empty. stomach is fine. Whenever you're going. to take your multivitamin and and your. D3, which is fat soluble, I would take. those with food. So, first thing in the. morning, you just hydrated and. mineralize the body. Um, just with a. basic sea salt. Um, just hydrate and. min. And there's a lot of good mineral. and the amino acids you take on an empty.
stomach. Amino acids you take on an. empty stomach. And and and those amino. acids, uh, those perfect amino acids. won't won't break a fast. They have. they're non-caloric or they have I think. one calorie, but they they won't break a. fast. And now you have all nine of the. essential amino acids. You've got the. majority of of the essential minerals. You've hydrated yourself and you put. hydrogen gas into your to your blood. You will feel the difference, right? You. you you just feel and it's a simple. thing to do. And it's such a simple. thing to do. Um and I get so much flack.
for telling people to do that. Like it's. just these this is just getting us back. basic. I dude it's crazy. It's just too. many. Yeah, I'm going to have to start. shutting it all off. Yeah, you have to. It's It make it'll make your life a lot. better. You know what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. And people are listening and. it's working. You know, you know, there's just too many people out there. that are crying for attention and one of. the ways they get attention is by. attacking people who are getting. positive attention. Yeah. Yeah. That's a. shame. [ __ ] those people.
[ __ ] those people. Anything else we. should talk about before we wrap this. up? I think I think we covered a lot. people review this and go back and. forth. I I love coming out here and. chopping it up with you, man. I'll see. you at the fights tomorrow, too. Yes, sir. I'm excited. Yeah, tomorrow's the. weigh-ins and then Saturday night's the. fights. I'm pumped. And by the way, dude, Joe Rogan on on the Ultimate Human. podcast. A rare sighting as well. Yes. Thank you. That was cool cuz we went. down we went down some rabbit holes, man. We went down the pyramids and Yeah, we talked about a lot of cool [ __ ].
Yeah, a lot of cool [ __ ] on there. Well, thank you, Gary. Thank you very much for. everything. I really appreciate you. uh. tell everybody your website, how they. can get a hold of you. Sure. Um you can. go to the. ultimatehum.com. I have a VIP community. there where all I do is just teach. Um I. try to educate to inspire so that people. will make a change. So you can join my. VIP community there. I'll give you a a. discount on joining the VIP community. I'll send you a free box of H2 tabs uh. for joining up the ultimatehum.com. The. podcast is the ultimate human and just. my name Gary Bracka. All right. Gary,
you're the man. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. You're welcome. All. right. Bye everybody. Oh. [Applause]. [Music].
