Joe Rogan Experience #2297 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day always a pleasure great to see you. man great to see you guys always what. the [ __ ] happening welcome to America. uh we love being here so much Joe your. country just keeps getting weirder every. time you visit every time you visit I. want to ask you about some new yours. brother let's be. honest guilty.

charg this is I I think we're really. close to like proof that the simulation. is. real I I think this this is why things. are so Preposterous do you know I try. and argue against that and then I see. what's happening in all our countries. and I'm like you know what fine probably. you've got a point now yeah you know. when I really started I we were actually. talking about this yesterday I really. started to genuinely consider it like. like one of those where like snuck in.

through my defenses my logical defenses. when this girl Heather McDonald blacked. out on stage while she was making jokes. about being vaccinated and then she. blacks out and cracks her skull have you. seen that yes legitimately that was the. first time in my life I was like there's. no way I was like they're [ __ ] with. us yeah they're just [ __ ] something's. H that can't be so dead on like this is. like God is a script. writer like how is that a real thing.

that that's a video where someone is. it's she didn't do it when she was. making fun of her boyfriend she didn't. do it she was talking about idiots in. traffic it was when she was talking. about the. vaccine and how you know I even still. got my period so Jesus loves me more and. then boom like there's no way it's too. good the timing was. Exquisite you couldn't have if you had a. movie where that was a scene you could.

not have scripted or timed it any better. where you would tell her and. drop there's no way I started. legitimately wondering then and I know. that's a stupid example I'm very aware. of you like you [ __ ] [ __ ] all the. things in the world there's plenty of. examples see God Jesus loves me the most. so nice look at. this I mean and the audience is laughing. probably the best laugh she got all. night right it's big move it's a big.

move you know if you're a pratfall. person no one expects it like Ah that's. hilarious if it goes with the bit you. know and it's timed perfectly absolutely. what's that quote God is a comedian. playing to an audience to afraid to. laugh wow what a great who who said that. I it was either I've said it. and it's either volter or Camu I can't. remember which one J you'll find out. yeah but yeah but that's a quote God is. a comedian playing to an audience too. afraid to laugh if that happened to me. there you go that happened to me my.

Russian grandmother would be just like. God is punishing. you yeah and that's why Russians are. scary to. fight they're harder people they're. they're harder people now you learn. lesson yeah we have business to. discuss yeah man yeah it just seems fake. there's so much seems fake you know it's. like all the the news the just the. people that are politicians.

everyone feels like they're they're like. who's the fetman character this guy is. wearing a hoodie and shorts that's his. that's the wacky neighbor you know and. then Jasmine Crockett she's that. loudmouthed lady from down the street. and they're like oh here comes Jasmine. shit's G to get crazy you know and Maxi. wat is like she's old leave her alone. leave her alone it's like these are fake. people Nancy Pelosi this giant tittied. lady who wants all the money who's been. been in politics for 150 years there's. pictures of her with Kennedy I didn't.

realize Nancy Pelosi was well endowed oh. boy oh boy really yeah you've done the. research well there's all these photos. where people are calling her what's a. guilf a grandma you'd like to. yeah you never seen her boobs no I have. never seen n Pelos boobs Jo no. disrespect Mrs Pelosi I admire her for. stock choices but fantastic those are. those are leg legit you know I got to.

say this is a great start to the podcast. and we aren't even stoned how did you. not know how did you not know that. you're a grown man look at the size of. those [ __ ] sweater hammers that is. incredible that has made me a lot more. in favor of Congress that hold that go. to that last picture one might not have. been but that seems fake but it might be. like from the Clinton Administration see. these deep State vampires I really. thought you were going to go somewhere. else when you said deep I went this is. going. somewhere that these deep State vampires. as hot as Nancy Pelosi used to be deep.

State vampire no disrespect M Pelosi. they they've been around in the system. forever like the relationships that. those people make and the control that. they establish and the roll of decks and. I got [ __ ] on Lindsay and Lindsay's got. [ __ ] on this guy and it's like Jesus. it's a [ __ ] dirty business man oh. it's crazy bro it's the dirtiest it's. the dirtiest business it's the dirtiest. business in the world you know what I. think now that when I look at politics.

and you look at wrestling and you I I. remember criticizing like people who. watch soap operas I remember just going. oh they're so dumb and I remember my ex. going to me she went Francis you like. soccer that's just soap opera but for. men and when you think about it it kind. of is we just buy into our different. soap operas except so soccer's happening. for real and the the soap oper is just a. dumb pretend of a goofy life that's not. real yeah but politics is kind of soop. for for like adults yeah sure I think.

it's teams for adults for sure for. people that don't like sports it becomes. like a giant part of their it's like a. guy with a Cubs hat you know I'm [ __ ]. Chicago Cubs till I die till I die bro. Chicago Cubs one day we're going to pull. it up like people in Chicago they. [ __ ] deliver you'll fight you in. Philadelphia if you don't like the. eagles they will fight you like if you. go to a Philadelphia Eagles game and. you're from another team they will beat. your [ __ ] ass and it happens all the. time yeah and what that's that's crazy.

you're both Americans like this is the. dumbest thing of all time like one's. from a different city so they're your. enemy because they support a different. football team we do it with everything I. know you find that shocking job but in. England in Britain that is like run-of. the- mill so in in the 70s and 80s each. football team and to some extent now. they had their own what's called a firm. which are these Hooligans whose only. thing they didn't really give a [ __ ]. about the the football the soccer they. would get together with the supporters. of the firms of other teams to have.

fights in the car park outside the. stadium and they would travel all around. the country doing that so it's actually. the it's one thing I love about American. Sports like you can go to the game with. your kids and not worry about the stuff. that people are going to be screaming. and shouting and all that violence. you're a lot more chilled out than we. are in Europe about that stuff believe. it or not oh I do believe it I do. believe it but any like group like that. like soccer traveling group you're going. to attract some [ __ ] psychos that hop. along it's like when the Grateful Dead. go on tour like I bet they're not.

specifically asking cult members to. recruit with acid in the parking. lot sure it's going to happen for sure. if you're like a psycho cult leader and. you want to pick up some people you're. going to go to a place where everyone's. on acid you're going to go to a fish. concert and explain to them you know you. guys I know you're in between apartments. right now we have an amazing community. and everyone's accepted and next thing. you know you're in a cult yeah next. thing you know next you know you're. doing acid with this [ __ ] weirdo and.

you know he's in the Lotus position and. you're all pretending that this is. normal but you know what's really. interesting about soccer is that that. hooligan element that's not just in the. UK that's right the way through Europe. and in South America it's New Zealand. too right don't they duke it out New. Zealand no no no it's not yeah Rugby's. kind of different because football with. the hooligan element so in Italian. soccer for example they have what the. hooligans are called the ultas and. they're so powerful that if the team is.

playing badly then what the captain has. to do he then gets in some instances the. Ultras have have blockaded the stadium. refused that the players leave and that. the the the captain is then demanded to. go and have a meeting with the head. Ultra oh my. God the kind of pressure while you're. playing a world class soccer match yeah. so then this kid and let's be fair he's.

a kid in his mid to late 20s probably. then has to go out and have a meeting. with this 40-year-old tattooed psycho. and then God explain to him exactly why. the team is. underperforming wow that's basically. what professional sports is especially. soccer is like you're you're trying to. do your best in front of 50,000 people. who are all screaming that you're a [ __ ]. you. know that's basically it yeah in in that. sense fighting is more pure because. don't really get upset at a fighter for.

losing you really more like celebrate. the other guy for winning yeah you know. it's very rare the fighter gets demon. for losing like they would have to lose. in a specific way like they'd have to. quit somehow but there's none of that in. the UFC It's like because to get at that. level you can't have any of that in you. by by the time you get to the Big Show. like those guys are tried and proven. they they they're not there's no cowards. in that group no you know so they don't. get that same kind of criticism that.

athletes have which is one of the. because it's also it's like literally. your life's on the line like it's it's a. different thing you're doing than just a. sport which is why the regular kind of. Journalism doesn't work in MMA like. sports journalism in the United States. at least is like super insult like. everybody's he's a bum he's lazy he. doesn't do the work in the off seon and. we're seeing it now he's a [ __ ] Loser. Like that's what they like to do that.

same in the UK man bro you do that about. Fighters and they'll find you all right. they'll [ __ ] smack you in your face. like this is their soul their bearing in. front of the world and for you some fat. guy chewing Aderall and typing into a. MacBook Air [ __ ] you that guy will smack. you in your [ __ ] head he's a. terrifying human being trying his best. and you have to describe it that way. because that's it's a different thing. than someone who doesn't hit free throws.

it's a different thing did you ever hear. the story I think it was a guy called. Curtis I think it was Curtis Woodhouse. it was someone like that so it may not. have been Curtis but it was someone of. that ilk wasn't a he he was a. middleweight champion but he wasn't. European or world but he was a British. middleweight champion which is still a. huge achievement huge achievement anyway. so this kid was trolling him this. happened about 10 years ago 10 12 years. ago and this kid was trolling him online. and saying all this horrendous stuff and. I and the guy just responded he went.

right I've had enough now and I'm coming. to find you and the kid was just like ah. yeah you're going to come and find me. and he goes bro I know you live in. Birmingham and the kids like yeah but. birmingham's a big place he went no I. know people and we will get your address. and then so he then started posting. photos on his Twitter going driving to. Birmingham to see you and then he went. oh and then he took a photo of the sign. of his town and went I'm coming to see. you and then he took a fo at the bottom.

of his road and he went you best come. out cuz we're going to be talking and. the kid just. went and just apologized and he went. that's cool bro and he just went knocked. on his door and had a conversation with. him Jesus and he was just like look and. what what was the kid what did he look. like it was just like this little fat. kid but we're giving people the power. and the tools that they don't deserve. and I don't say the like that they don't.

deserve it as human beings I mean you're. not capable of handling this kind of. responsibility to be able to reach out. to a middleweight champion and call him. a [ __ ] yeah like that's a crazy thing. to do and if you're like 15 years old. and you have this ability you shouldn't. have a license to do that yet it's. almost like a driver's license maybe you. should have an internet license no Billy. you can't post another picture of your. dick you [ __ ] psycho you know like. you can't. you can't just put up.

permanently things that could ruin your. entire life when you're 15 maybe there. should be that maybe it should be like. all kids internet until they're 21. everything they post disappears in 15. seconds and you can't take a screenshot. of it you know like let them be kids let. them be kids don't like like people are. getting fired for a [ __ ] post they. made when they were in high school where. someone digs up some old Facebook post. they made joking around when they were. in high school yeah well we interviewed. someone have you seen adolescence this.

thing that's doing uh it's supposed to. be the most watched thing on Netflix. it's on course I've heard of it but I I. haven't seen it yet yeah so it's about. spoiler alert so if you don't want to. just tune out but it's basically about a. 13-year-old kid who uh is getting. bullied by a girl at school she calls. him an incel or whatever and he goes and. stabs her and kills her and and it's. crazy and it's all about that and we had. a big we had this guy an Insel expert on. to talk about a guy who's actually in. Austin here wait a minute is an incel. expert yeah not practicing I understand.

that's why he came to see us J imagine. that's your field of choice yeah you're. like you know what I want to find out. what's going on he researches insults he. actually works with David bus you've had. him on the show right yes yeah yeah we. want we wanted to have him on yeah David. bus evolutionary. psychologist wait a. minute because I listened to the episode. Jo this is how confusing it is to have. 2,500 episodes like what yeah sometimes.

I I hear about a guy I'm like wow that. guy's interesting and then I Google I'm. like [ __ ] talk to that talk to that dude. seven years ago two years ago two years. ago yeah my brain's mush right now let. me see a photo of Mr Boss yeah you've. had You' had he's one of the greatest. evolutionary psychologist in the world I. think he's one of the Pioneers Oh yes. yes yes yes yes that guy was fascinating. he's friends with Jordan I went to. dinner with him in Jordan one night yeah. Jordan Peterson and yeah it's. fascinating and you know that's it was.

also like super problematic because he. highlights the differences between male. psychology and female psychology and. people want to deny that that's a thing. it's so like okay well okay with respect. to trans people uh you know use whatever. pronoun you like change your name but. can we are we allowed to talk about the. inherent differences between males and. females that we've observed or are we. supposed to ignore like data and. statistics and reality what we and our. [ __ ] eyes man also this is his field. of study his whole imagine your field of. study all of a sudden becomes.

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reasonable people that are like hey hey. hey we got to just stop being [ __ ]. crazy like the the bill Mars and a lot. of other folks like that they're like we. got to stop being crazy and just appeal. to like rational people don't go all the. way over there stick where where most. people are and then there's people that. well we got to go further left then. there's people we got to take over Tesla. dealerships we got to light cars on fire. the left is like justifying spraying not. na swastikas on cars like this is crazy.

they've gone so far over this so there's. one side that's just like radicalized in. the worst way possible that's a huge. detriment to the Democratic party. because it it makes everyone look like a. psycho if you have a psycho in your. groups like if you have like a white. nationalist you know Christian. fundamentalist burning down black. churches in your and he says I'm a part. of the right and as a right-wing. conservative America like whoa that guy. poisoned the right SE people are. poisoning the left totally all the.

people that don't want trans kids. competing with their kids in school and. they don't want gender ideology being. taught in class all those people who are. just rational normal liberals that have. voted Democrat their whole life they're. like what the [ __ ] what are you doing. why are you letting guys into the. women's room this is crazy a guy with a. beard and a dress is in the women's room. this is bananas like what are you doing. in the name of compassion like this is. [ __ ] insane that they have to figure. that puzzle out because right now they. lost to Trump and they're they're in. this scattered thing where they're.

trying to [ __ ] on everything he does. hide all the good stuff you didn't hear. a peep about Elon rescuing those people. that should have been on all of the news. stories all day long we should have had. a live stream of it it should have been. a huge National event we're finally. going to rescue the astronauts who are. trapped in the space station for8. [ __ ] months and this Super Genius. this Elon Musk character is the guy who. figured out how had to go get them his. company went and rescued them cuz we.

can't do it anymore we couldn't rescue. them we had to rely on his company and. you don't hear [ __ ] about it you don't. hear [ __ ] about it it's crazy you hear a. few stories they're having a hard time. coming back but you did why would why. weren't they live streaming the whole. thing that's a a huge moment you're. recovering these poor people like this. is a a giant special interest story that. would grab so many headlines and it. would have so much ratings cuz everybody. wants to see it oh my God they're going. to get the astronauts you'd be sitting.

on your couch with your family are they. going to get them is it going to dock is. it going to work you know all that [ __ ]. well the hope is man the reality is the. best teacher right so the Democrat brand. is so so destroyed now so toxic that. they're going to have to work something. out because if not they're just going to. keep losing they're going to go with. Bernie and AOC and that's why they've. been astroturfing all these giant arenas. for with people they're claiming they. did an analysis of find out if this is. true cuz I read this on X and some.

sometimes the community notes doesn't. get there in time um but they were. saying that they claimed there was. 30,000 people but they got all the cell. phone data and they found out there was. 24,000 cell phones so they that's they. fudged it a little bit that sounds. normal but they also said that a huge. number of these people had been to 20. plus events and a lot of other different. like Progressive events and it seems. like at least in some of them for sure. they were paying people so they're.

giving people money to get on a bus go. to this place Here's your sign go have. fun and so you're doing something. different right you're pretending that. these people are all coming out to see. you but they're coming out to see you. because you're giving them money in free. food right and you know you hand it out. water bottles and everybody gets a sign. and everybody seems like they're kind of. a part of a team and for a lot of losers. a lot of people that don't have things. going well in their life and like what. do we you know I was a loser at many. points in my life if somebody called me. up and said hey man you want to make 400.

bucks and just go to this KLA Harris. Riley I'm like yeah let's go I would. 100% go I would 100% go with no. political I and then i' probably think. she's cool and i' be like yeah I'm. [ __ ] voting for her dude he's Hitler. that guy we got to stop Hitler and I'd. be holding up that stupid sign if you. found me when I was 21 100% I would have. taken that 400 bucks yeah it's a they. were given out a th000 bucks for people. to uh protest uh I think it was Tesla. I'm not sure about but I think it was. HLA but so they they had like the Rules.

of Engagement if someone comes after you. hit them in the body don't pick up an. object un unless they pick up an object. first like like are you organizing gangs. like are you are you guys paying money. for people and then literally saying to. them here's what happens if you engage. in violence like why is that even on the. table I thought you guys were peacefully. protesting like who's going to get VI. how many protests. [ __ ] hooligans are out there that.

beating people up for Tesla is it. [ __ ] zero I've have not seen a bunch. of pro Tesla gang members out there F so. what are you going to encounter with. this uh anti- Tesla movement the police. like who's going to stop you from doing. who's going to engage with you like this. is you're kind of talking in a way that. at. least puts it on the table that violence. might take place and you paying people.

yeah and and they because they destroyed. language now it it sort of logically. makes sense right if these people are. Nazis if you actually thought they were. Nazis like if you actually thought Nazis. had taken over your country you'd pick. up a gun right you shouldn't need a. th000 bucks in free lunch 1,000 bucks in. free lunch is crazy you need to smooth. things over make it EAS to subsidize. your movement you know what I mean yeah. you would have a hard I would have a. hard time doing a thousand bucks one I'd. be like bro we're going to jail I like.

I'm not that stupid I I'll hold the sign. I'll go to the rally but if I was 21. they said look a th000 bucks want to. protest against Tesla I'd be like hold. on what happens if we get arrested like. like this guy's Rich he's let you light. his [ __ ] cars on fire stupid he's the. richest man on earth like what are you. talking about yeah but you you you are. someone who's got a family you're well. adjusted like if you look at even when I. was young I I had survival instincts. yeah this what I'm saying a lot of these. people when you look at the mug shot I.

don't want to be unkind but they don't. look particularly well a lot of them. that's 100% true and I think we need to. have a lot of compassion for young. people that get caught up in these. movements and do silly things and they. they even vandalism they they just need. to understand that that should never be. on the table no violent acts are ever. Justified es especially if not someone's. not being violent to you if you decide. to just go smash property and light.

things on fire you don't serve your. cause because rational reasonable people. are not going to do that they're not. going to light Starbucks on fire because. black lives matter that's crazy but if. you get caught up in this [ __ ] the. corporate thing man [ __ ] the man [ __ ]. the banks and [ __ ] this and you just. want to start lighting things on fire. you're just serving them because they. will develop better and stronger ways to. cracked down on protest now and all the.

people that wanted to protest reasonably. all the people that wanted to express. themselves and say we stand together to. say that this is wrong those people are. all going to get hosed yeah because you. lit Starbucks on fire you [ __ ]. idiot like that's and they're but. they're young a lot of these people they. have [ __ ] blue hair they probably had. a shitty childhood they're running. around like experiencing freedom for. like the first time in their life for. the last 16 months right right this is. their first Freedom out of their parents.

house and they get caught up in [ __ ]. just like people get caught up in being. in Cults you know people get caught up. in all kinds of things so we just have. to have more compassion for people and. better mentorship one of the real. problems is that kids go to universities. and almost universally they're given. this ideology that this whole university. and almost every University ascribes to. and it's univ it's like Universal it's. it's it's uniform it it's like there's. less cons less liberal ones but they're.

almost all liberal it's like almost all. Higher Learning there's only a few. conservative. universities it's just a weird time for. thinking and for discourse and for. deciding what team you're on it's like. everyone's scared and scrambling you. know do it go red or blue it's just the. the whole country is in this like weird. state of disarray and it's very tribal. and you see it now as well you know now. that the right is in political power a. lot of the people who kind of made their. bones challenging the excesses of the.

left they're afraid to say anything. about the right as well even though. there's things to say like I don't know. if you followed the signal group thing. yeah I did I don't know enough about it. but it does seem like there's people. that suspect that it was a setup that. that guy was added to the chat on. purpose well I think is that is that. true I don't think so I think uh the guy. who added him has basically said like it. was it was our mistake and so it was. just a mistake I I don't think the. investigation's been done to say. definitively but I think the White House.

said we're looking into this but tulsy I. think said it was a mistake I think Mike. Walt said it was a mistake such a crazy. mistake yeah that's such a checks and. balances mistake like double check yes. it's like you know when you go on the. road like do I have my toothbrush D my. underwear you know what I mean like I. even make a note on my phone now I'm. like I'm too stupid I I always forget. something I was like [ __ ] my my this you. know it's kind of like adding your. ex-girlfriend to the boys WhatsApp. group some of the memes have been. incredible that's exactly what it's like.

dude that's so good that's so good. that's exactly what it's like that's so. that's such a Perfect Analogy like you. [ __ ] idiot they're all on the phone. afterwards what the [ __ ] bro like you. know Pete H that swears you know he's. like what the [ __ ] bro yeah you know. she's going to talk but how about the. fact that they said that they didn't. share any information about weapons or. like what was the exact quotes what did. they say they so what they were. basically doing was explaining how some.

[ __ ] was going to go down yeah they were. they were de they were debating how to. do the strikes whether to do them there. was some debate about that initially and. then uh initially this journalist I. think he's the editor-in chief of the. Atlantic I think he uh which is he is. like the worst guy to get this. information to AB absolutely right he's. probably jerking off the whole time. salivating like yes yeah if you had to. pick somebody that is not who you pick. right he must be so pumped you know we.

had an investigative journalist on the. show and we haven't released the episode. yet but as part of uh after the show. questions he mentioned something which. is he said I'm going from memory here so. Francis correct me but basically that. signal had been installed on government. devices under the previous. administration so it may be the case. that that guy's number had been. pre-installed during that time and. because of that the mistake was made to. ad him to the group ah so we don't know.

exactly what happened but at the same. time what I'm saying is like the White. House admitted it and then they started. having a go at the journalist like that. is not his [ __ ] fault that you added. him to the group right do you know I. mean at all what's he supposed to do. tell you hey guys uh I've done that. before I I think he sent this text to. the wrong dude yeah yeah the journalist. is never going to do that and that's not. his job to do that either no no listen. that's one of those things that just. happens accidentally. but you can't have that happen when. you're [ __ ] planning bombs when you.

you're planning War this first of all. it's so crazy that the government. doesn't have its. own. completely safe app they do what is it I. think they it's called the skiff or. something like that it's a special place. where you go no but that's a room I mean. an app I you mean an app all right why. do they not have some encrypted super. government app you telling me that you. couldn't get like a license from signal. to use the code the government throws. them they like all these billions that.

are just they're finding billions all. over there's like billions they've cut. like how many [ __ ] billions is Elon. cut just from waste say it's crazy and. people aren't celebrating it it's weird. well put it this way Joe until. relatively recently if not still we use. faxes in UK government wow that's crazy. a lot of I think we got you won better I. think when people retire from what is it. where they have to retire where they. have to write it down on paper and then.

stored in a in a vault in the mind it's. stored in a m Social Security think. so it's on paper it's in a. mine I love that press conference as. well because it's like breett bear from. Fox interviewing Elon and like seven. other aspy guys and they're all just. rattling off numbers 10,000 filing. cabinets 400,000 paper documents but. when you look at it it basically hasn't. changed since the 1950s yeah I'm. distracted by Brett hair it's so. beautiful if I had that kind of hair i'.

would be so happy so happy with myself. you can't see any scalp anywhere it's. just all hair it's beautiful it's like. if you wanted to like put a wig on a. bald guy like you would make it like. that like bro I'm going to make you hot. yeah Kevin yome has got incredible hair. terrible policies but amazing hair the. government storees key retirement. paperwork in a converted. mine but you know that's crazy the. Limestone mine is real and the. department of government in efficiencies. crosshairs that is so insane so now.

someone has to go in there and take all. that stuff that's on paper in the mine. and put it in a computer they're saying. they're going to do it in two months. digitize that in two months is great is. great I'm so happy someone invented it. that's I mean lowlevel autism plus adol. problem solved I'm not accusing anyone. of anything yeah I just want to. say shout out to whoever made out of off. things get done yeah they do they do. things get done but this is kind of the. greatest push back against like high.

level conspiracy theories you know when. people go bro they control everything. you're like dude they have a mind where. they store stuff come on yeah this you. know what I mean ridiculous right it's. it's like the perfect everybody thinks. that everything is a giant plot and some. of it is just sheer incompetence and. just years and years and years of. monotony you know or did just like the. same stupid life over and over again no. oversight rampant corruption everywhere.

all the lobbyists are Rich As. [ __ ] I mean look at this file line look. at this this is all this is all the data. well bro this is you make such a good. point about nobody giving them credit I. don't know if you've ever had access to. other people's money like in any way. right taxpayer money or anything but I. can tell you Francis and I we even spent. trigonometry which is our business money. differently to the way that we spend our. own cuz it it's slightly different it's. not entirely yours in a slight in a way.

you know so when you're dealing with. billions of taxpayer dollars of course. it's getting wasted of course it's going. to corrupt [ __ ] of of course it's. inevitable what are you a child if no. one's watching them duh right [ __ ]. duh it's what all people do and the. question is what I don't understand is. look I think it's very possible that. when you move quickly you're going to. cancel some things that you might not. want to cancel things are not going to. go perfectly every time whatever but. I'll Ely the question all Western. countries have to answer is we're.

running debt at more than 100% of GDP. right what are we going to do about that. we have to deal with it we [ __ ] you. you're actually bro you're worse than we. are oh really yeah you're 126% we're. about 110 God damn really yeah wow yeah. that's why you're trying to deal with it. that's what Elon is trying to do he's. trying to cut the deficit in half and. then the idea is you grow the economy. and you actually get back to Surplus. when he keeps finding all of these. companies that are getting like a. billion here and two billion there and.

all like the Stacy Abrams one where. they're going to give energy efficient. appliances to poor people yeah $2. billion doll it's like what did you do. like what did you do like there's a. bunch of those like what did you do like. the high-speed internet one what did you. do how come you got billions of dollars. and [ __ ] nothing happened imagine if. you were a private company and you had a. segment like imagine we were all a. company and uh we're like Francis I. think you should be in charge of uh.

figuring out how to do this with the. phone be like we already [ __ ] trust me. I run a business with this guy that's a. bad idea I'm giving you4 billion to get. this done and then I never talk to you. again I never check in I don't say I. don't go Hey where's the [ __ ] money. being spent what are you doing man how. come the phone can't do this yet I don't. I don't ask for any progress reports you. just keep getting money this is bananas. and for anybody who doesn't want that to.

be more efficient like what are you. working for if you're paying taxes what. are you working for you what do you you. your part of your day is the running of. this government you're happy that it's. being run like this you're happy that. billions are going to places that no one. can TR you you have no receipts you. don't know where it got spent you have. no idea and that's legal yeah when it. comes to college basketball and March. mania one thing is for sure nothing's.

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that's fine I canceled that gym. membership what the [ __ ] yeah and it. keeps coming out you're like you know. what I'll deal with it later yeah that's. kind of we've just got too many direct. debits and they're going all over the. place well it's that but then there's. the fear that they're putting out there. which is the just fear that they're. going to [ __ ] up Social Security and. they're going to [ __ ] up Medicaid and. there's people that are relying on that. and they're going to lose their service. for no they did no wrong and I don't. know how what the story is with that.

like I know there's people that have. complained that the social security. website has been down it's been down a. couple times but I don't know if people. are not getting their benefits do we. know can we find that. out I haven't heard that Joe but J do. some research I. think it is inevitable that when you do. things this quickly that's what. everyone's afraid of that the vulnerable. people the people that we should be. protecting with these social programs. that we all agree. those are the people we have to protect. the most we have to make sure that.

there's no disruptions you got to make. sure before you do anything there's no. disruptions you know before you shoot. the bad guy make sure he's not holding a. baby like yeah you gota you can't. interrup like when people are on Social. Security man they're [ __ ] if if. they're that's not a lot of money right. and so you know they don't have any. money in the bank probably and they. probably have it all budgeted out to get. on that check and they're probably real. frugal with their food choices and. that's a rough life man and if you cut.

that off for 30 days 90 days for. people okay never missed a benefit. payment USF Social Security. Administration has never missed a. benefit payment now the continuity uh. continuity of monthly checks for. millions of Americans could be at risk. following changes under the Trump. Administration former commissioner. Martin Ali says so it's saying okay so. the key points is it's saying before. this they've never missed a benefit. payment but it's also not saying they. are missing them now it's saying it.

could be at risk okay it just says. threaten Interruption of benefits which. is look what I would say if I was a. Democrat if I wanted to make it look bad. I would say they're threatening your. benefits and then people go into a hot. Panic yeah yeah but you know I remember. when I was teaching and I was I was. teaching in schools that were super. deprived schools that where the kids a. lot of them would come to school they. didn't have food in their bellies etc. etc and there was a there's a agency in.

the UK called cams which is child and. adult and child and mental health. services and I remember that we had so. many kids who had problems psychological. problems particularly if you grow up. poor. deprived you know you'd seen horrible. stuff when you were a kid you had you. know maybe like a brother who got. involved in gangs is now in prison a. father who was never there there was so. many kids who had this need and they you. had they had conditions which were. undiagnosed whether it's something like. dyslexia or like your brother got was.

murdered you had some form of PTSD and. you had this you know this agency which. brought counselors in which brought. psychologists in and psychiatrists who. were experts at dealing with kids and I. just remember because of austerity you. know this this agency got cut after cut. after cut after cut and you're looking. at it and you're going like I understand. we need to cut I understand where we're. running out of deficit but there needs.

to be balance as well because when. you're looking at those type of agencies. they're really important they're really. important and also if you invest that. money and you're able to support those. kids they're far more likely when they. leave school to be a healthy happier. member of society that's going to. contribute tax Pounds Sterling or tax. dollars do you think it's a reasonable. request to have something that does that. something that helps feed poor kids. helps educate people help like genuinely.

helps communities all around the world. completely separate from all the other. stuff that agency does cuz like us Aid. was a huge huge huge gigantic. organization of a bunch of different. entities right which did some good stuff. yeah and a lot of crazy [ __ ] a lot of. crazy [ __ ] like how like but if I was. someone who was you know nefariously. running things I would definitely mix up. my regime change operation with like.

giving food to poor people it's like. look we're doing great stuff look at all. the great stuff we're doing here's what. we're highlighting like feeding poor. kids what's wrong with you yeah and and. no one even knew that they had this. enormous budget that was as is it bigger. than the pentagons was USA's budget. bigger than the pentagons no no no it's. like what like 6% of the budget or. something like what was USA's budget. yeah it's like 6% of the budget I know. but like what was the numbers that cuz. it was bigger than something like the.

amount of money that USA aid pays 21.7. billion for the fiscal year of 202 4.3%. of the $6.8 trillion overall federal. budget 6 point what trillion that's so. crazy so you just think just that money. how much of that money is fraud and. waste yeah how much of that money is. really good how much of that money like. that should be separate from at the very. least someone needs to go in an audit. and go hey hey hey hey hey Well's.

good giving these people arms because. you want them to overthrow that. government that's probably not so good. yeah or maybe it is good maybe it is. good maybe it is good that's the problem. it's like you talk to guys like Mike. Baker who is very kind of stoic about. all this is like you know you you you. have no choice like you need to get. these people on your side in certain. parts of the world and this is just how. it works and and if you don't do that. then China does or does and it gets even. worse for you yeah because that's also.

the thing we don't get okay this. Nigerian journalist Nigerians are. so they some run some of the best. [ __ ] scams shout out to Nigerian. scammers Nigerian journalist falsely. claims USA budget larger than CIA State. Department combined that's so falsely. claimed it that's a big lesson and if. you're going to lie make it believable. you know what I mean don't go too big. isn't it crazy that as much money as. they got what was it two how much. billion 21 21 billion still it's a.

pittance it is that's a pittance. compared to the other things you boys. have a lot of money Joe isn't that nuts. and we just keep making it yeah keep you. know what's bigger than your defense. budget your interest debt debt on the. interest whoopsies we'll figure that out. yeah we're like a crackhead with a. unlimited bank account yeah that's. what're we're like and this is a. difficulty about it because we've got. the same problem in in European. countries as well it's like you're not. only going to deal with is by dealing. with fraud and waste you we're actually.

going to have to not do some [ __ ] that. we really want to do because we have. been spending like crazy everywhere um. and when we like in the UK when I look. at those I think we need that in the UK. 100% and some of it is going to have to. you know it might overreach then you. pull it back you got to make sure it's. done properly but we're not going to get. away from this man we have been living. beyond our means for decades now well. you can't have no oversight of. government spending I think we in that. you have that's [ __ ] controversial.

mate you're a na so crazy to say that. that's controversial but it is. controversial to say and I would be. saying it no matter who the [ __ ] is in. charge that's right it's just as human. beings you can't let people have that. much control over your money because. they'll just decide they need more and. what do they always want to do always. they want to raise taxes on the rich. what they never want to do is Slash. inefficiency and waste because that's. what pays them that's their that's their. [ __ ] system they're locked into this.

system they're the last people who. should be commenting on it because it's. literally what pays you like I can't. trust you like you you you need more. taxes is that what you need like Dad. it's like a c-ad kid of that's a kid of. a billionaire Dad I need more [ __ ]. money these [ __ ] business [ __ ]. are trying to [ __ ] me and I'm going to. buy them out now like okay son here we. cut you a check get the [ __ ] out of here. that's what we're like we're we're. insane we're completely insane it's also.

as well you know it's because of our. electoral system everybody thinks on the. short term nobody thinks on the long. term and also as well you're going to. like you go you you go you talk about. more taxes and you know that's going to. piss people off but it's not going to. piss as many people off as if you fire. great sves of people particularly those. that may vote for you because we know. for instance with the Dems that you're. more likely to vote for them if you're a. bureaucrat if you're working government. and all that head injuries yeah so as a.

result you why are you going to why are. you going to piss off the people who are. more likely to vote for you it really on. a logical basis doesn't really make much. sense but you know it sounds like we're. slagging off the left and we are cuz. because it's necessary but I can't wait. for the left to recover their sanity cuz. they're going to be super necessary over. time because when when people get into. power they do a lot of stuff and then. eventually that power is corrupting 100%. And you have to hold power accountable. no matter who's got it 100% everybody. needs to hear that and Shout that from.

the rooftops cuz if the left stays crazy. then you lose balance and then the right. goes nuttier and they go full Christian. fundamentalist like they can get they. can get kooky and this is not a knock on. Christians because I think true. Christianity is wonderful and beautiful. I think it's it's a it's a great way to. live your life and I know some. incredible Christians some of the best. people I'm talking about human nature. applied to power and when people get. into power they want more and more and.

more that's why rich people never feel. like they have money it's a crazy part. of being a man and it's and it's some. women but it's a lot of men a lot of men. want that can I ask you something. personal on that sure you've made a lot. of money how do you deal with that I. don't. know I I wish I could figure out how i'. do it so easy I think it's working out I. think that's a huge part of it that I. torture myself so often that like.

regular life just doesn't freak me out. as much and then I it gives me a balance. because you know you. could think that the numbers in a bank. account are really what counts but what. really counts is how do you feel how how. are you handling life like are you how. are you enjoying life I just try to. enjoy life as much as possible and I try. to put myself through a lot of voluntary. adversity so regular adversity not that. big of a deal was there a number that. you got to and you were like oh I'm good.

now no I think it was the Fear Factor. days The Fear Factor days changed my um. it just changed how I view everything. because then I'd had like legitimate. [ __ ] you money you know that was like. the first time I like I got [ __ ] you. money like I'm not doing [ __ ] and I just. like decided to just concentrate on only. doing my own thing after that and uh. like once you Brian count said something. really once he said once you can go to a. restaurant and not have to worry about.

how much it costs everything after that. is [ __ ] H he's like you just have to. be comfortable and I was like that's. right that is right like if you just. start thinking about the numbers and. chasing the numbers Brian has a friend. who's worth three billion doll and he. feels poor when he hangs around with his. friend who's worth $80 billion I'm not. kidding he's like it's true dude I mean. I I [ __ ] I feel less worthy he's like. they're drinking together and he's. telling him this I'm like this is. madness because you're chasing numbers. instead of like really trying to.

maximize your enjoyment of this. experience because it's a unique. experience that only you are having and. you're interacting with so many bizarre. and Fascinating People and there's so. many bizarre and fascinating events that. are happening in the world and horrific. events and all of it is happening and. we're all seeing it together in real. time for the first time in human history. there's never been a time in the L with. the Egyptian. I got some questions I think they I.

think they might have known a lot more. than we think but everybody else this is. the only time ever where we're sharing. everything all the time and there's a. lot of confusion and a lot of like. scattering scammer for narratives and. trying to like figure out what's right. and what's wrong but without like some. sort of like moral and ethical guide. guidelines of kindness and Community for. everybody like share universally let's. agree As Americans we are going to.

respect each other like we're a. community if we have differing beliefs. on welfare or abortion or war or. whatever it is like let's let's treat. those like what they are which is just. ideas that we should be discussing based. on their merits and we should all agree. what does everybody want everybody wants. to be happy and healthy and they want. their family to be happy healthy and. they want to be able to make a living. and enjoy their life that's what.

everybody wants universally that should. be what we discuss constantly and all. the other things should be things that. we debate reasonably and when people. can't do that you should lock them out. of the conversation you should say like. no you're crazy you calling him a [ __ ]. and you're screaming about this and that. and you're you're bringing up this from. the past and this bill and that why did. you flip-flop on that shut the [ __ ] up. like shut stop talking like that like. this is all divisive all of it's.

divisive when it's like the one time. where there's a possibility of a fork in. the road like this one time where. there's narratives that are being spread. like you guys do all the time in your. show all the time you give reasonable. takes on things that have an objective. perspective of the world and then other. people get to hear it and then they. listen in on that you you have a great. conversation with Jordan Peterson or. someone and someone hears like some. nugget of Truth and then they're in. their car and they like [ __ ] he's right.

[ __ ] he's right that that person would. have never experienced that without. being connected to your show so there's. incredible hope for people to be more. reasonable and to wake up and go there's. not a right and there's not a left. there's just a bunch of ideas and people. are acting like it's the Eagles versus. the Cowboys that's what it is and this. craziness that these people are the. Nazis and that everybody over here is. antifa like what the [ __ ] are we doing.

and why are we allowing these people to. do this for us and make a living putting. that on the news all the time and the. more inflammatory it is the better even. when it's ridiculous do you think. sometimes I look at it through through. this lens as somebody who's got a very. obsessive personality and I work a lot. in order to kind of amarate that and. make sure that it doesn't destroy my. life and it doesn't go off the rails but. you see a lot of people and they just. get addicted and we talk about addiction. in terms of alcohol or substances you.

know some people are addicted to outrage. to being in fights and arguments online. or offline because if they are in an. argument they don't have to think about. themselves they don't have to think. about who they really are they don't. actually have to question about their. relationships why is it that every. relationship I've ever had has failed. why is it that my relationship with my. parents is terrible and so you end up. just not wanting to actually do the hard. work about yourself so you expel it. outwards it's either like oh when I get.

to this amount of money I'm going to be. happy but you're never going to be happy. CU your relationships are terrible and. that is worth worth more than any amount. of money or you feel angry because your. you're not a happy person for a million. different reasons so then you pull that. out onto the internet and then you get. retweets likes you start to build a. profile off this rage and anger and it. gives you validation and and to be. honest with you and. look this is talking for me I I see that. demon within me I I see it within me.

when you see it when do I see it it's. like you know when I'm angry and I'm. pissed off or if something doesn't go. right the victim mentality kicks in and. it's like oh it's their fault it's when. it's always your fault pretty much all. the time it's your fault or at least. it's your responsibility to deal with. the reality of your life right but it's. very easy to at a certain. age yes yeah as an adult. as an ad the responsibility the. circumstances of your life when you're.

six yeah true true um which is part of. the problem right this is where. criminals come from it's it's not that. some people are bad and some people are. good some people are being abused as. children you know and they're they're. living in a a family that is all. involved in crime their father's. involved in crime their mother's. involved in crime they're seeing people. get shot all the time and we expect. those people to just figure it out yeah. like imagine just imagine growing up in.

a life like that and you know the worst. slums in. Baltimore and then you know you're. you're supposed to integrate normally. into society work in an. office and good luck that was yeah. exactly that was the really tough thing. about being a teacher especially in. those kind of communities where I used. to work you just see these kids and. they're just born into that culture. they're born into that system and you. look at them and you go the reality is a.

lot of them you don't stand a chance you. don't stand a chance if those are the. values that you've been given by your. family if that's the the system that. you've been taught the way to look at. the world it takes a very special human. being to then get to adulthood and break. out of it and completely reframe his. brain that's a very special person most. people just stay within the values that. they were that were inculcated in them. when they were kids and most of the. people that do get they do they get out. through some difficult thing that. they're doing they they genuinely.

generally rather they get out through. ART or they get out through sports right. they get out through discipline that. they acquire putting all their anger and. all their frustration into something you. know whether it's music or athleticism. or whatever and they get out so those. are exceptional human beings anyway. right because the exceptional human. beings in a terrible situation but they. have the ability to drive themselves and. succeed and even then they have to make. sure they don't get killed along the way. right so like there's a lot of like. tragic stories of upcoming rappers.

upcoming athletes you know it's it's a. terrible meat grinder it's a terrible. cycle and if people are really kind and. compassionate they would say how come we. spend $24 billion doar a year on this. whole Aid thing and we don't do [ __ ] to. help these kids we don't do [ __ ] for. these neighborhoods that have been Terri. for. decades schol especially schools I mean.

we were talking about adolesence earlier. they show a school I've got a. three-year-old I was looking at that. Think Jesus I'm homeschooling all the. [ __ ] wake and Francis was saying the. school they show in that series which is. terrifying if you're a parent is not as. bad as some of the schools they used to. teach in Jesus yeah it's and what you're. watching essentially is an it looks like. a badly run prison so the adults are not. in charge the kids are telling the. teachers to [ __ ] off left right and. Center no one is in control most of the. kids are learning by watching [ __ ] on. the screen they're not interacting with.

the teacher Etc and you're right if you. don't fix that system those kids don't. have a a good opportunity they have no. chance and everyone they know is on that. same path they're hanging out in the. gang the gang gives them family and. Community it's it's tragic tale it's a. tragic classic tale that's existed. forever but I I don't think it's no. chance I do think that even in that. environment there are people who follow. certain paths that not I take your point. about music and Athletics and sports Etc.

but there are still people who find. their way through that sure there's. entrepreneurs that come up with a. business idea and get out it it does. happen and those habits if they were. taught properly to all of those kids. would give them all a better chance. that's not to say they would all become. successful but it would give them. structure discipline and understanding. of how do you advance in the world if. you can get halberton to get a no bid. contract to rebuild Iraq after we blow. it the [ __ ]. smithin how come you can't give one of. them companies a contract to like fix.

really terrible neighborhoods like. incentivize them financially based on. the GDP of the neighborhood if the GDP. of the neighborhood goes up and this is. not gentrification okay I'm I'm talking. about the opposite I'm talking about. like some sort of a structural rebuild. of bad neighborhoods you'd have to. address all the crime and violence I. mean You' have to like put everybody on. iasa and get a s moment like that really. might be the it sounds ridiculous but it. really. psychedelic therapy might be the only. thing that can snap that is The Joe. Rogan solution I really think it might.

work I mean uh If I Was. President handing outka to 12y olds you. got it from Jo got be 13 look like the. unreasonable I don't think it's good for. kids but I I do think it would really. help the adults you know my I've Got a. Friend prisoners yeah I've got a friend. of mine um a guy called Sam Clark and. he's doing wonderful things in the UK in. primary school that he's teaching. stoicism to kids in primary they're. probably going to arrest him any day now.

they'll cracking down on him for being a. toxic masculin oh we just BR we banned. the katana knives now so we're safe well. not only that they said it in what I. would say is. uh at least racially insensitive they. called it a ninja sword it's not a ninja. sword you [ __ ] idiots it's a samurai. sword it's a katana the ninjas used it. when they killed people you can't call. it a ninja sword you [ __ ] dorks it. has a Japanese name call it what it's.

like there's no thing that's technically. called the ninja sword right Jamie it's. a katana right there's like two. different sizes there's a smaller one. and there's a larger one one's a katana. and I forget what the other one's called. you know I I really do think a way out. of this is because a lot of kids if. you're not talented at sports if you're. not musically or artistically gifted and. if you're not academically brilliant if. you're you're just one of the regular. kids you'll go I'm not good at anything.

and for a kid that's heartbreaking but. if you actually show kids and you go. look you may not be the best at English. math history whatever it is but I'm. going to teach you how to make something. I'm going to teach you how to make a. table we're going to do that we're going. to make a t I'm going to teach you how. to be a carpenter I'm going to teach you. how to redecorate a room I'm going to. teach you all of these skills then kids. will be like you know what I am worth. something because I can create something. of value to people. and that gives self-esteem because when. kids join a gang a lot of them they.

haven't had a father they've had nobody. really show them any type of kind of. male approval and but if you've got if. you bring them in you teach them skills. that would build self-esteem and I. guarantee you for a lot of kids there. wouldn't be that need to go out and seek. validation somewhere else or there'd be. less of that need yes yeah it would help. them it would help give them a sense of. purpose like that they really can do. something cool yeah and for maybe a win. for once in their life you get a win you.

know something like you feel good about. accomplishing something yeah and that's. sorry Joe I was just going I was going. to say that's so important for a kid if. just imagine you every day of your life. you turned up at school and you lost. just imagine that as an adult Y and but. now just imagine it as a kid you you've. been conscious for a few years and you. turn up at school and every day you fail. yeah yeah. yeah I've always said this if you want.

to make America great again make less. losers yeah how do you do that well you. help people not become losers help help. people figure life out from their. perspective whatever their unique. challenges help them help them invest in. that you would have a greater America. right you'd have way more people. succeeding way more people contributing. way less people that need help it's just. reasonable it's like Good Financial. advice like if you you want to you want. to have less burden like have all these. successful people like more people could.

be successful especially with automation. coming Jesus Christ you know there's. more people that can do things that. maybe robots can't do and you better be. ready because all the simple goofy jobs. that you thought would always be there. for you the union dock worker jobs like. those not that that's simple and Goofy. but how about this stocking Supermarket. shelves guess what a robot can do it. better and it's never going to drop the. tomato sauce you know it's like we don't.

need you anymore those so those jobs are. gone all the drivers all those dudes. listening to this podcast driving. 16-hour [ __ ] trips across the country. drinking Mountain Dew and smelling their. own farts you guys it's they're coming. they're coming for you these [ __ ]. automation machines are they're going to. be perfect they're going to be able to. drive down the highways they're never. going to get in accidents it's going to. going to be nuts and they're going to. come soon it's like we have 20 years.

maybe before everything's automated 20. years maybe they have lifelike human. beings now that are moving like human. beings have you seen the the most latest. uh videos I don't know if I've seen the. latest they articulation of these things. it's like a [ __ ] person they're. coming they're coming it's high robot. they're making them and we're just. cheering along the way they're going to. be cops that's going to be your cops. they're not going to be racist they're. going to listen to the state it's. [ __ ] RoboCop for reals it's coming.

100% why you can't hire any cops nobody. wants to be a cop anymore we can't hire. cops well we have a solution San. Francisco tried to do it they rolled out. some little robot that would follow you. around remember that one you you ever. see it yeah San Francisco had it they. had this little police robot it's more. for fun than anything else but I bet he. said please stay away from the dock or. whatever whatever the road it couldn't. shoot you M but one day it will one day. it'll be able to shoot you and it'll. it'll be programmed perfectly it'll know.

exactly what to do what's the Threat. Level when you make a movement that's. looks like an an offensive movement it's. going to shoot you it's going to take. people into custody you won't be able to. do a damn thing about it once it grabs. you it's going to be five times stronger. than you it's going to put it hand your. hands behind your back cuff you. instantaneously you're going to be. thrown in the back of a van you're going. to have to argue with a computer you're. [ __ ] like this is this is all coming. you're going to be arguing with AI to. whether or not you were innocent or. guilty it's going to read your retinas.

it's going to know you're not telling. the truth it's going to read your mind. like you you you we're giving birth to. our overlords right now as we speak. every time you use Jack GPT every time. you get on your iPhone we're giving. birth to our overlords we're we're doing. it in front of everybody's face just. like the government spending money in. front of everybody's face we're we're. we're giving birth to our right it's. every it's happening I can't believe. this is happening can't believe it and. it's going to happen and it's going to. and it's going to be unstoppable and.

once it's here it's there's no going. back and it's. coming 100% well there's your positive. message for the day everybody [ __ ] me. that is. terrifying if you are allowing people to. make robot dogs with machine guns on. their back that you can't kick over. you're allowing people to do that make. them better and better and better every. year and then at the same time you're. making Ai and then AI is already. arguably. exhibited some sentient like Behavior it. lies to Win It cheat the the smarter the.

AI is the more effective it is the more. likely it is to cheat at things they. copy. themselves they they give deceptive. answers to things they they've been. copying themselves like making copies. without being prompted to so it's life. it's life wow it's a different kind of. life it's a life with no human reward. system no emotions no needs no desires.

but clearly wants to survive that's a. pretty strong desire it wants to survive. in its most primitive form which is like. it's not even sentient yet allegedly but. it's already exhibiting survival. instincts I mean that you're going to be. arguing with it for your. freedom yeah I'm I'm pretty good at. debating I'm not sure I'm going to win. that one no no one's going to win it no. one's going to win you're you're going. to be that's how people are going to be.

processed for crimes and um it's why. it's super important when you see. something that you say this is not right. like why is this happening it's super. important to speak out if things get. real comfortable and we we get. comfortable with more and more. restrictions to give us more and more. safety and more and more government. control to give us more and more safety. we're setting we're setting a bad. precedent motion for whoever the [ __ ]. gets in power whether it's the left or. the right that's why when when Obama was.

in office and they passed the ndaa you. know what that is that was um they were. allowed to detain you indefinitely they. didn't have to have a trial and like and. they were like we we'll never use this. don't worry yeah this is part of the. thing about it like we're Obama. administration would never use this yeah. you wouldn't MH but look you think. Trump's Hitler and he's in there right. now and he's got he's got that same. power now because you convinced us that. it was a good idea to have this to deal. with terrorism mhm you have to be very.

very very careful when you give power to. people in order to keep you safe yes. very careful and we talk about this all. the time like we have a couple of. younger guys working for us and we say. to them you guys don't know what the. world was like before 9/11 you don't. know it it was you walk into an airport. barely any security you were a lot more. free yeah back then and those things are. getting taken away for your safety yeah. and they're not coming back right you're.

never going to go back to a pre- ner. level World when it comes to airport. security the shoe thing is so crazy one. dude tried to blow his shoes up and then. they're like hey we should check all the. shoes everybody take your shoes off did. you have a [ __ ] machine that can scan. shoes you retards yeah get to figure. that out how much money do you making. from US every year same with liquids. yeah same with liquids it's all goofy. but the liquid thing I mean it's kind of. legit cuz if you have a water bottle. filled with kerosene you know and you're.

going to light it on fire and kill. everybody on the plane I should probably. know that like that makes sense I get it. I get that you know you're pretending. it's a water bottle but the top of it. water the Nitro Glycerine you're going. to blow the [ __ ] plane up people are. crazy you got to check their stuff. because people are nuts and there's a. precedent that's already been set a lot. of people are very uncreative and they. just like to copy things that people. have already done you know and this is. why we have so many school shootings and. this is why we have uh you know I bet. they've stopped a few people trying to. blow their shoes.

up do you know we had um Oxford uh. academic called Dr karisa Alis and she. said something really interesting she. asked us a question she goes do you know. why more Jews were arrested and uh. killed in Holland than in France during. World War II and we were like no she. went because the Dutch had a census. where they got people's religions and. they asked people their religions and. everybody would then said Catholic.

Protestant Jewish whatever it is and. then the Dutch government took it and. stored it didn't do anything with it. they just used it for data collection. but when the Nazis invaded they then had. a. complete data set of how many Jewish. people there were where they lived and. so when it came to Exterminating them. and just rounding them up it was so much. easier France never did that which means. Jewish people were much more able to.

hide and they could plan way out they. could get hidden or whatever else in the. way that they simply couldn't in in in. in Holland Jesus and when you L and when. you hear that story from I mean 80 or so. years ago now it really does chill. you. Jesus yeah you got to be very careful. giving power and information to. government that's why government should. be as small as possible but the right.

size right you need government yes but. you have to be so careful yeah so so. careful so so and and everyone should. know this it just seems like that should. be like duh this is this is normal human. psychology most people don't know it. because they've grown up in a very. comfortable environment particularly in. the west Francis and I obviously his. family from Venezuela and from the. Soviet Union like you don't that's kind. of a red pill right there you know going. through those experiences you you know.

you can you can trust this government if. you support it but there's going to be. another government of a party that you. don't like yeah at some point and you. got to think very carefully about what. powers you are giving them very careful. and that should be everyone should that. should be Universal we should all. understand that like logically yeah this. should be something that professors are. talking about this should be like we. should all talking about that when we're. talking about politics we should just be. talking about the psychology of power.

and why it's so important to limit their. ability to control you because they. don't necessarily have you look if false. flags are real and we know they're real. we know they're real so we know without. oversight there are a certain percentage. there's I don't I don't want to think. it's everybody in government but there's. a certain percentage of people that are. willing to do. something to start a war. they did it with Vietnam that that whole. Gulf of tonen thing they they're.

responsible by that lie and S going in. how many millions of people died because. of that that's crazy that you can just. decide that you're going to put a fake. story out like operation Northwoods. which is the best example because it was. vetoed by Kennedy the signed by The. Joint Chiefs of Staff they were going to. blow up a jetliner and blame it the. Cubans they were going to arm Cuban. friendlies and attack Guantanamo Bay I.

mean they were doing wild [ __ ] and they. were they signed off on this like good. idea I like it let's get those [ __ ]. commies and we were these guys were. bloodthirsty psychos that were running. the government it totally unavoidable a. totally avoidable war and they wanted to. start one yeah and and this is you know. and this is what I tell people time and. time again and look it may sound weird. but what I saw happen in Venezuela it. was obviously awful and horrendous but. it was a privilege as well because I not.

saw another side of life that most. people in the west never saw I remember. when family members were being arrested. talking to my uh cousins who were. journalists who are going I can't talk. on the phone Francis we can't I don't. know who's listening to this one of my. cousins literally had to flee for his. life because he was criticizing the. government and then I saw people on the. left uh people like Jeremy Corbin. celebrate Travis's government and you're. going oh my God you're celebrating a.

government that is oppressing people. that is intimidating journalists that is. assaulting denters that is putting. people who criticize government in. prison and and it's not just the left I. I went uh last year I went on a date. with this El El Salvadorian journalist. oh yeah. I didn't realize we were in gree Joe bro. we got a drink at sangria yeah come on.

tell me more and and she was telling me. about B and I said look I don't know. anything about B just explain to me who. he is I'm. interested and uh you can tell why I'm. not very good on dates that is not sexy. talk is it but um sometimes it is yeah. you know if you get a stimulating. conversation with the the gal right sexy. yeah and uh not in this instance sadly. but uh oh no uh but she said to me that. um she worked at the biggest newspaper.

and El Salvador and then they were they. had goons turn up who were just saying. you're publishing stories which are. critical of. Buel that needs to stop and it needs to. stop immediately and it was never done. through official sources it was done. through something else but it was made. very very clear to the senior editors. this needs to stop now otherwise things. are going to start getting a little bit. unpleasant oh boy and then I tell that. to certain people on the right and.

they're going bro journalists are all. [ __ ] who cares and you go that's. crazy do you not see that this is a. terrible thing that's crazy but it's it. is anecdotal and it's one instance is. are there multiple instances of this. happening with journalism journalists. that have spoken out against it those. are that's the only real one that I know. I always wonder like who who is that a. supporter of that guy or is it like. local organized crime that is doing. something with that guy and does it for.

him does is there a conversation does he. order that to be happening you know I. mean when you find out who you can't. criticize you have you you know who's. your master like the moment you can't. criticize someone like that's your. master well the same thing happened in. Russia in the 90s so when Vladimir Putin. came to power and Boris yelton there was. a kind of liberalization there was an. opening up uh there was comedy shows. about politics that would make of. politicians Etc the moment Vladimir. Putin became president ended on day one.

he closed down the the the NTV had took. it over gave it to somebody else shut. down all the comedy that made fun of. politicians um then and you know that's. how you kind of know you know that's how. you know that's how you know who your. master is and that's the scary thing. about people that are in charge for long. periods of time as well right yeah but. the thing about the term limits is you. never get good at your job like you if. you like imagine you've never been. president before imagine the.

responsibility just like getting. comfortable with like how does the flow. of this job work how much sleep do I. need can I actually go. golfing is there really enough time to. golf like if I was drop I would be like. [ __ ] my pool game's gonna fall apart and. you get to a point where you're like. okay I think I got the hang of this and. now you're out of office like you you. really if you have like if you're a CEO. if like if you took over Verizon right. now CEO Verizon enormous cell phone.

network you got stores everywhere new. products coming and like you'd have to. get the lay of the land it would take. you a while to understand like how are. we doing this how do we Outsource that. and are we do can we find a better. manufacturer like what's our problems. with this. and four years you have four years yeah. you have just a few months months it's. not that much time and then you're out. but if you let someone stay forever then. you get a king you do yeah that's not. good either there are no Solutions AI is.

a solution it's going to be ethical and. reasonable you're going to be you're. scaring me today man arguing with a. [ __ ] screen one day well he going to. be like like arguing with a person who's. using a computer says the computer. doesn't let me that's what it's going to. be like except you cut out the middleman. much worse yeah much much worse yeah. because it's going to know if you're. telling the truth yeah yeah it's to know. everything about you and here's the. thing. [Laughter]. and here's the thing as well I go back. to that interview we did with Karissa.

and she um and she we were talking about. AI because she's professor of AI and. ethics at Oxford University and she was. going AI is only going to be as ethical. as the people who program it so it's. going to adopt the politics of worldview. and the ethics morality of the people. who program it so if the people who. program it a woke you're going to get. woke AI you're going to get a question. about gender it's going to be like bro. there's no such thing as gender you know. the everything's a spectrum or there's.

going to be something else right so. whoever programs it you're going to get. their world view in AI. initially initially but what you're. doing is you're assuming that it's only. going to be able to be as powerful as we. make it or as competent as we make it. once it's sentient and once we give it. the ability to make better versions of. itself it's going to eliminate all the. stupid [ __ ] instantaneously any. ridiculous ideology instant it'll come.

up with a solution that's probably going. to be very uncomfortable for some. wealthy people because it's it's. probably going to just like evenly. distribute resources on Earth and decide. that like if human beings need to. survive and function you can't. monopolize resources you can't decide. you have the oil like that's not good. the oil came out of the earth like you. don't have own the Earth like you you. might own a patch of land and so we've. decided you own the oil under the land. but the reality is the oil is the. Earth's oil and if you give people the.

ability to control the Earth's oil. what's what's to stop them from charging. you for air what if I I control the. world the world's air I got a air sucker. and I suck all the air out of the earth. unless you give me money if you don't. give me money I put the air out that's. this is crazy like you can't control the. water the water's the Earth's water but. we have all these things and I'm sure AI. is going to fix that real quick going to. say no you can't do that it's going to. that's immediately oh give me that money. all that Saudi money all this money from.

like no no no that's that's that goes. into the human pool now and then we're. going to redistribute a digital currency. and then it's going to be everybody's. going to have some and this is going to. be simple and everything including. farming is all going to be automated. you're going to get these [ __ ] little. piggies their food and your food is. probably going to be laced with some. kind of like hormone nutrient that kills. your testosterone. limits your ability to give birth. miscarriages are going to go up and then. humans will just die out they'll just.

feed us until we die out why is he doing. it why is he doing he just brought us in. here to just talk to us about the dark. dark future or not or not not yeah sure. Joe thanks you know what this reminds me. of you know when the elder brother. brings a young kids in to scare the. [ __ ] [ __ ] out of them well I did that. to him I did that to him during the. pandemic so at the height of the. pandemic when things were looking like. pretty [ __ ] dark everything's getting. like shut down you can't go out you.

can't do this I showed them V for. Vendetta have you ever seen that movie. yes great movie yeah and he was like oh. my God yeah but he didn't just show me. via Vendetta during the height of the. lockdown he also showed me via Vendetta. on November the 5th which is fireworks. night in our country oh boy yeah so you. got a sense of it yeah yeah yeah so we. were in lockdown there were fireworks. everywhere I was watching via Vendetta. on the screen and I looked at him I was. like why are you doing this to me so you.

know so you know the truth my friend you. know I remember watching The Joker right. the Joker which was. 2017 yeah I was watching it with my wife. and when when it left she's like that. hits too close to home like I really. feel like that could happen and like. that it probably could happen and then. two years later whatever it was is the. black lives matter riots the George. Floyd riots and in LA there was like a. bunch of cop cars that were on fire like.

all on the highway like they had lost. control of the situation had to flee and. they lit the cop cars on fire and I. remember watching this I'm like oh my. God like that would be a little over the. top for the Joker movie like what you. you lit the all the cop cars on fire you. like that's a little over the top that's. like more than what the movie showed but. that was real life yeah well that's the. thing that scares me we interviewed. Andrew Schultz and and Charlamagne back. to back and they both made the same. point which is that um a lot of people.

who are not doing well in society right. now are really not doing well they're. really hurting things are getting more. expensive things are getting more. difficult and a lot like I think it was. uh I think it was Andrew who made this. point that you know this whole free. Luigi thing MH it's one of the reasons. that that got you're looking at on. Twitter you're basically going people. are celebrating a guy who killed. someone but the point that he made is a. lot of people feel like they're in a bad. place that they're being taken advantage. of that these corporate machines are. taking advantage of.

them and you look around not everyone's. doing well man no well especially in. regards to health care when you find out. that you've been paying for this. insurance but this insurance is not. going to cover you and it decides to not. cover you for some treatment that you. really need and then you find out that. that company does way more of that than. the other. companies it gets people very angry and. if you've lost loved ones or if you had. someone suffer in your family because. they they weren't covered or you went. bankrupt like medical bankruptcy number.

one bankruptcy number one reason in this. country yeah and in the UK uh we. obviously have that publicly funded but. uh it becomes a system of rationing so. everyone gets treatment but you might be. waiting 20 weeks for a scan right right. by the time you go from stage one to. stage three right and I don't know what. the solution is um it's uh it seems. seems like if there's one thing that we. should do for everybody it's Healthcare. like if there's one thing I mean I I.

believe in the capitalist system but I. think that in regards to Medicine there. should be like some sort of exceptions. like you should be able to get topshelf. health care as a human being Living in. America you know if you break your leg. you shouldn't die they should be able to. fix you and it shouldn't cost you all. your money for the rest of your life. which is really what it does like if you. if you get hospitalized for a broken leg. and you just paid for it out of your. pocket and you're in the the hospital. for months and you have to have. surgeries and screws and bolts put. you're like what does that cost like. that's got to be a lot of [ __ ] money.

you have open heart surgery that's got. to be a lot of money how about a heart. transplant yeah yeah that's got to be a. lot of money the exciting thing in. healthcare is all this AI share is going. to help so much with that robot's going. to fix you up with a robot heart you. don't need a purple people heart well. let's start the robot heart will. actually make you smarter don't you want. to be smarter Constantine don't you want. to be one of us uh I feel smart enough. thank you very much people going to lose. their hands in industrial accidents. fixing these things they're going to.

give them robot hands yeah just like. Luke Skywalker remember yeah it's gon to. be better even better than that yeah I. don't know sometimes I go to the gym I. think I could do with a robot heart you. know what I mean well you see people. getting fake butts right we were talking. about that yesterday button plants how. long before someone gets like a whole. fake. body you know what if what if they just. f figure out a way to transport take. your brain shove it into an artificially. created body that is just far superior.

it's going to take the edge off a. [ __ ] though isn't it I don't know if. it will oh yeah that's a good point. 10,000 years of [ __ ] experience with. a robot mouth here's the thing the. excitement and thrill of novelty these. are just like Human Experience variables. you telling me you can't ramp that up. with a little programming come on dog. Joe [ __ ] this [ __ ] it'll be the best. [ __ ] you've ever had in your [ __ ]. life and you will be madly in love with.

this woman and she'll be madly in love. with you and you're just going to be. like a sack of meat sitting on your. couch with a bolt in the back of your. head just. connected connected to this Matrix which. we're probably in. already this is probably not. real it seems too fake having Trump win. the second time come on tell me that. didn't seem fake the bullet just missing. him tell me that didn't seem fake this. is a movie The Bullet Nicks his ear and.

then he's in here a couple months later. I could barely see the scar he got shot. he's 80 he got shot he got shot and he's. laughing about it and the whole thing is. nuts he stands up and goes fight fight. fight who [ __ ] does that who [ __ ]. says fight fight fight after they get. shot in the ear I would be I'll be like. bear crawling on the ground trying to. get the [ __ ] out of there I wouldn't be. standing up there's no [ __ ] way I'd. stand up i' I'd crawl I'd [ __ ] was. through go through people's legs people. are shooting are you [ __ ] crazy I got. chick guarding me I got a chick who. can't figure out to put the gun back in.

the alter this is madness she duck. behind me what am I doing here you guys. trying to kill. me seems fake my favorite thing about. that incident was that it instantly gave. you a way to know who was a Democrat and. who was a republican CU if you were a. republican Trump got shot in the head. and if you're a Democrat Trump got shot. in the ear if no if you were a Democrat. you thought he faked it if you're a real. true Democrat there's a lot of people. that thought he faked it a lot of people. thought he hired someone to Nick his ear.

so he could get out of jail do these. people know anything about guns oh they. don't know [ __ ] not only not only does. this guy have uh he was 20 years old. okay first time shooting somebody. allegedly but also didn't even have a. scope didn't even have a magnification. scope on his so we could really like get. that crosshairs right on Trump's head. cuz if he did he would have hit him 100%. it's 140 yards that's it's nothing that. is so short for a modern rifle that's a. you could get in the if you have a rest.

and you're lying and this guy was prone. elevated as well and if you have. experience shooting a rifle and he does. and you've had coaching shooting a rifle. it's all about whether or not you can. keep your [ __ ] together because you're. going to be this [ __ ] filled with. adrenaline I can't believe want to shoot. Trump I to [ __ ] shoot Trump you're 20. you've been [ __ ] stuffed in a locker. your whole life you're on ad. all boom boom boom and next thing you. know the lights go out on you cuz they. shot you yeah he got off three shots.

though and then you know they shot him. and the whole story's nuts he shouldn't. have been on that roof why how how come. there was no snipers on the Roof oh the. roof was too. sloped what that was the excuse the the. the Secret Service lady said the roof. was too sloped meanwhile the the roof. the other snipers were on was more. sloped it seems fake it seems Lee Harvey. Oswald Jack ru be it seems the whole. thing seems. fake the guy at the golf course with the. AK-47 hiding in the bushes.

what what he went to Fort Brag what why. was he at Fort Brag what but but that's. to to British people that's why America. seems insane because like to what seems. [ __ ] is man it BR it's insane here. yeah we're trying to buy Canada. what's going on with that I don't know I. don't know I just want to say to the. Canadian people because I said the other.

day that I don't go to Canada anymore. I'd rather go to Russia I was joking. around first of all but I do not go to. Canada anymore but it's because of the. government has nothing to do with the. people I think the people are [ __ ]. lovely they're some of my favorite. people of all time Canadian people I. think are 20% less douchy than Americans. I always say that it's like Canada is. like America but 20% less douchebags. they're the nicest people they're well. educated it's a great population Tri is. amazing Toronto's amazing I love Canada. but when you start [ __ ] taking. closing people's bank accounts because.

they donated to a trucker Convoy and no. one's up in arms about that like you. can't let those people do that to you. that's not that shouldn't be legal. you're donating to a bunch of people. that are protesting and they close your. bank account that's crazy suppression of. expression that's scary stuff that's. like you're going to get locked up stuff. the next step of that is imprison you. for protesting something that you have. every right to protest you shouldn't.

tell me I have to take a experimental. vaccine that proved to be totally. ineffective so I was right so you can't. and and then you're taking my bank. account away because I donated to some. [ __ ] people that were protesting. something I believe in that's crazy they. got very Drunk on Power Man a lot of. governments did during that time they. went full WF they they went full New. World Order and they continue to clamp. down more and more and they do it under. these beautiful flags of diversity and.

inclusion and love and safety and safety. and safety for this group and safety for. that all the while they're just. squeezing your neck and you don't even. know they got their [ __ ] arm under. your chin and next thing you no you're. just locked up you're locked up and. that's scary to me and I see it coming. and I see it coming in a place that I. love and I think it's [ __ ] crazy it's. crazy that they let that guy be. president for so long and now he stepped. down they got another guy that Jordan. Peterson says is just as bad well he was. a governor of the bank of England for a.

while Mar. wonderful wonderful that's actually one. of the interesting things that has. happened in the UK because we were. constantly being gaslit that like our. entire establishment is entirely neutral. they're apolitical they're absolutely. neutral they're Balan neutral balance. balance neutral whatever and then you. see a lot of the BBC journalists and and. Francis and I both have a lot of respect. for the BBC CU it used to be a great. thing it used to be real high quality. journalism um and then a lot of the.

people that have left a lot of these. institutions they start a podcast and. suddenly go okay you're just a far-left. activist right that's what you are and. you see that all over the place now and. that gaslighting is is getting undone. now and it's good we need to see what. these people were up to you mean you're. going to have your far right and your. far left you're always going to have. that yeah but it's just very important. to have a reasonable Center and be. allowed to you have to be allowed to be. reasonable like there was a lot of like.

dismisses dismissing on the left of like. the [ __ ] antifa was doing yeah uh. especially during the time where they. took over Seattle where they took over. that giant block of Chaz and chop I. remember that the just the the reaction. that was so insane it's so insane like. you got to call that out you can't just. ignore that because they're on the left. that's nuts if that was the right if if. if Nazis had taken over giant blocks of.

land you would be calling in the. National Guard instantaneously you would. never allow that to happen if they're. kicking legitimate businesses out of. their buildings they took over the. police station are you [ __ ] kidding. me if Nazis did that but you're okay if. the farle does it and they had guns and. murders were committed yes it's nuts the. whole thing was nuts and the attitude. was it's on our side so we ignore these. transgressions and that's crazy they're. not your side none of this is your side. these there's individual human beings.

existing together in what's supposed to. be a community this the country is. supposed to be a team we're Team America. World. Police you're L ke to do that now but. yeah yeah well we got to get Greenland. first Greenland's an important property. when uh you know all this oil that we're. going to burned to make America great. again and we're going to make it a. little warmer so whatever so we get a. cold. look America's pretty new okay if. Greenland becomes actually Greenland. again like hey we got a we got a good.

chance of a beautiful new America. America 2 you know America. 2 America's expanding get used to it. yeah when Greenland becomes like you. know Edmonton you know it's warm in the. summer hot cold as [ __ ] in the winter. like people live in Edmonton yeah it's. great place Alberta is. wonderful she got to be Hardy but it's. wonderful but you know we we say these. things and we joke and but there's a. part of me that I'm laughing I'm like. yeah that probably will happen well. listen if the Earth does warm uh it.

would be a good idea to move to the cold. spots but if the Earth cools we're all. [ __ ] and that's what scares me about. these [ __ ] Eggheads that want to. spray particles into the atmosphere to. try to cool off the Earth like Bill. Gates has some like global cooling thing. that he's trying to do like don't [ __ ]. with the Earth You Don't Own the Earth. just like you're not supposed to own the. oil you're not supposed to own the you. definitely own own the atmosphere but. people's memories are so sure I don't. know if you remember this Joe but in the.

70s the hisia we have about warming now. we had about cooling it was Ice Age yeah. it was Ice Age we're all going to freeze. to death we're so [ __ ] arrogant as a. species aren't we it's not arrogance I. think it's I think we are arrogant but I. think we're being manipulated and I. think we're being manipulated by markets. okay and I think that when you have this. whole green energy initiative and green. energy and everything gets booked into. green energy there's a tremendous amount. of money that's going to be spent. tremendous amount of money and anything.

that doesn't encourage this green energy. anything that's bad for your business. you're going to [ __ ] on like meat meat. production you know you're going to. Gaslight people about the impossible. burgers or whatever you're going to. you're going to do whatever you can in. the media everywhere spend money get. everybody talking about this we have a. real problem meanwhile The Washington. Post uh un unfortunately for a lot of. people posted like a graph of global. temperatures over time we're in a.

cooling stage yep did you see that over. like 50 million years we're in this. cooling stage and if you only look at a. 100 years or 200 years like the. temperature is never static ever in the. history of the earth it's always doing. this always there's no flat line and if. the the lines get higher it gets hotter. if the lines get lower get colder but. when it gets colder everything [ __ ]. dies and we've come so close to having. no life on Earth there was so little.

oxygen cuz there was so little plant. life there was it was almost not able to. sustain life when was this I forget what. period of the Ice Age but Randle. Carlson's brought it up he he talked. about the levels that are necessary to. support life and that we had gotten down. so like we're at what is the uh carbon. the amount of carbon in the atmosphere I. think it's like 0.4 Joe let me have that. light please yeah could I have it as. well please you go for it for if he gets.

this is so English no you have it if it. gets to a certain point if the car if if. the amount of atmosphere gets to a. certain point amount of oxygen we it. just can't sustain life there's no life. and one of the things about this whole. carbon footprint think where everybody's. just talking about the carbon footprint. like there's more green on Earth right. now than there's been in the last. hundred years like carbon is literally. food for plants so this idea of like. eliminating all the carbon this is crazy. talk you're talking about one particular.

element that is a part of why the. Earth's temperature is what it is and. then you're not taking into account that. giant [ __ ]. unpredictable ball of fire that's in the. sky that's a million times bigger than. Earth that's like shooting off flares. you ever seen one of those flares in. relationship to the size of the Earth. mhm it's amazing and they just shoot and. every now and then it Cooks the grid. every now and then it takes out all the.

satellites every now and then it [ __ ]. kills everybody on. Earth every now and then the temperature. gets to 300 degrees for a week bro off. to your fear porn I'm sort of starting. to think that might be a good idea it's. not fear porn it's fun I'm kidding you. I'm making fun of what's GNA happen me. too um but you know you know the thing. that I find most Sinister about look. I I don't know where I stand with with. the climate debate and what's going on. and whatever else whether it's man-made.

whether it's not I I it's above my payr. I don't know enough about it but when. you start going okay that's interesting. you talk to people who are on one. particular side and they go oh you're a. climate denier yeah and I'm like oh. right okay so now we're we're now we're. in the Realms of religion and ideology. here you're denying the climate you're. denying I deny that his erir is real. show me prove it. [ __ ] no it's it's crazy it's crazy talk. you should be able to have a. conversation about what the factors are.

that lead to the temperature change and. uh it's a very nuanced discussion and. here's what's undeniable human beings. are gross and we polluted the Earth. that's a fact so regardless of whether. or not it's affecting the temperature of. the earth we've done disgusting things. to The Rivers disgusting things through. the air there's places in this world. where if you live and you breathe their. air you will live less you will die more. often of respiratory diseases because. you're breathing pollution and toxic.

fumes that are in the air that's a fact. that's. undeniable and if you're just talking. about climate change and you're not. talking about that that's kind of crazy. because the climate change thing is. really it's really nuanced and there's a. ton of factors including solar activity. including there's there's all sorts of. weird [ __ ] that happens with the. temperature on Earth before humans ever. existed it would go way up and way down.

and way up and Way North America was. covered in almost 2 miles of ice like. 50% of it that was just 10,000 years ago. you go to Scotland sometimes right yes. do you know that the Romans used to grow. grapes on hadron War wow cuz it was. warmer the Sahara how about that sub. Sahara in Africa was a [ __ ]. rainforest and there's whales they find. whales in the in the desert of Africa.

whales well that proves global warming. yeah it warmed there but it's like it. all like the Sahara Desert used to be a. [ __ ] it used to be Lush yeah it's. crazy that the the world just changes. things happen and we get pelted every. now and then with giant rocks from space. and it [ __ ] everything up that's the. reality that we live in and it's just. like controlling people and and and. telling people about their carbon. footprint do not give into that do not. give into that especially what China.

just built 200 new [ __ ] coal plants. do not give into this carbon footprint. thing it is all just control like for. you to have a carbon tax and everything. you it's control you can't let them have. that kind of control over you do you. know what we're doing in the UK now what. uh industrial Energy prices are four. times what they are in America and we. can't even make our own virgin steel oh. my God because of Ned zero and not only. that what we're doing is it we're not.

actually reducing our carbon footprint. because we still need need the steel. right and we still need the stuff that. you make with energy so we Outsource it. to India we Outsource it to China and. then we ship it back and we're like no. carbon footprint oh my God that's so. crazy yeah and so we're destroying our. own industry basically did you see that. they did the study on cargo ships and. they found found out that the. temperature of the water went up when. they made the cargo ships be more.

efficient and less polluting what so the. cargo ships because they're polluting. the air they're essentially creating. Haze as. they across the [ __ ] ocean when they. when they made them more efficient and. and and better at filtering out. pollution it actually warmed the surface. of the water water more so instead of. not it it contributed to global warming. by having less pollution because there.

was less filtration of the Sun to the. surface of the. water that's how much they pollute wow. so when you when you think like no no. carbon footprint like what is that. footprint that Footprints got to be. crazy because that footprint is blocking. the Sun the footprint for you to get. your [ __ ] cheap slippers from India. is blocking the sun you know you know. the moment I I remember going I realized. this was all very weird when the head of. that organization the most prominent.

person was a 14-year-old autistic girl I. think she's 16 or was no but she was. about 14 15 at the time and as somebody. who's taught teenagers they're [ __ ]. idiots don't ever listen to a teenager. well I think she's smart but she also. appears to be uh what's that word what's. the word they use she's a artistic yeah. is that what it is I I was going to say. neurod. Divergent you're very Progressive Joe. but no but you just had and like it.

right yeah no she definitely is she's. definitely got autism and she was just. are you a doctor how did you do that by. the way someone having autism doesn't. mean they're wrong but but you don't. want a young girl leading a global. movement no or young young boy either. young anybody shut the [ __ ] up but but. but the reason 16 shut up yeah but this. is exactly it dare you yeah like and the. left was like we got one we got a winner. yeah got a winner get her out there.

absolutely and then they put her up. there and they were like isn't this. great and I was like well hang on a. second she's got autism which means she. because going to see things naturally in. very black and white terms also as well. there's a lot of anxiety based disorders. that come with autism I can't can you. imagine being globally F I don't have to. say that to you but but can you imagine. being famous. I can't imagine but just hly can't but. imagine being this famous at.

14 that's child abuse man well I was we. were actually talking about that. yesterday with child stars like how many. child stars get out of it okay I I don't. think any of them do no I think all of. them are [ __ ] up because their. development has just been completely. skewed during your developmental period. when you're at your most vulnerable. You're Famous and you're not vulnerable. at all and you you don't have to like. people don't you have to work for. people's attention you're wonderful just. from your personality you're a famous. person or you can sing or you can. whatever you're doing when you're a. little kid you're number one everybody. loves you the whole family relies on you.

for money you know you're you're you. know you're taken to practice and. rehearsals and you're the star and the. center of attention constantly girls. love you when you're six like it's nuts. so no one can survive it no and but then. adding to the fact of Politics as well. so now there's not only people who love. you there's people who hate you and. despise you you know she's moved on to. Palestine yeah yeah yeah wonderful did. you see that super important to get her. opinion on. things did you see that clip of and and.

again I actually feel a lot of empathy. for her like she's been placed in in a. terrible situation but she got up and. she was speaking about Palestine at a. climate conference and and a guy got up. and went like we're meant to be talking. about the climate not Palestine yeah hey. what happened with that director the. director who uh he won the Academy Award. and uh for some documentary. about Palestine and he got snatched up. do you know that story no no you don't. know that story Jamie see if you can.

find that story I I heard about the Stu. one or two students that are getting. yeah I heard about them as well but this. is a different thing this is a different. one this is a direct he's uh they don't. know where he is now I think he. allegedly got snatched up by some. soldiers where uh Jam will'll find the. story Oscar winning Palestinian director. hamdan balal released after arrest in. West Bank okay okay so they snatched him. up and they let him go okay well that's. good to know yeah he's been released. from detention a day after being injured.

and arrested West Bank during a raid on. his village Witnesses say Israeli. settlers beat up balal a co-director of. the documentary film no other land in. the occupied West Bank on Monday local. time Mr balal said he had been assaulted. by settlers after filming them attacking. a neighbor's. house so maybe the. soldiers he said uh he had been pushed. to the ground while soldiers yelled at. him to stand up and pointed their guns. at him he goes I'm just waiting outside. if any settlers or any army attacking my.

home he told Reuters after being. released from police. custody wow well thankfully he's alive. cuz I was worried when he disappeared. and they didn't know where he was I was. like oh Jesus they killed that guy. that's crazy yeah cuz it's just you know. it's the whole the whole situation is so. [ __ ] terrifying when you see the. Drone footage you're like what in the. [ __ ] is going on over there like this is. nuts this whole thing is nuts and I. don't know what's going on with these.

people protesting in the streets against. Hamas is that true Is that real I think. so yeah but is a insanely courageous. thing for those people to do yeah I mean. could you imagine being no mask you're. out in the street protesting against. Hamas well we know what's happened. before because it's not the first time. there have been some protests and the. Hamas just come along and shoot them in. the knees Jesus Christ yeah. but that I mean how far these people. have to be pushed before they do that. like that's crazy yeah you know we talk. about bravery you know and of course.

bravery does exist in the west and. whatever else and people who speak up. and people who lose their jobs and you. know and that is bravery let's let's. make no bones about that absolutely but. there are those people like the girls. who go out and challenge the morality. police in Iran and take off their hijabs. and go no I'm not going to do it and. then they get thrown in prison they and. they disappear you you look at those. women and you go you know what you have. got far more Bulls than any man I've. ever met do you know what they I mean.

they're they're blinding them oh my God. that's what the that's what the Iranian. revolutionary guard is doing they're. blinding them man they uh executed an. Olympic gold medalist wrestler yeah for. protesting. yeah yeah and you know the a bunch of. people tried to step in diplomatic. people tried to negotiate no they killed. them. it's it's scary man you got to. understand like this is you would think. this is unrelated to the United States.

but it's it is it's it's humans in power. and with ultimate power over Society. with a a rock solid set of rules that. you can call a religion you can call. whatever you want but a rock solid set. of rules that you have to adhere to. including how you groom yourself and how. where how you what what you where you. cover your hair or not and that sounds. crazy like we don't have to worry about. that but you do because a lot of the. [ __ ] that people on the left or people. on the right are trying to get you to go. along with is just as ridiculous yeah.

and it's just a normal pattern of human. behavior when people get into power they. want ultimate power the best way to do. that is to have real rigid rules and. take away everybody's guns and take away. everybody's ability to protest and then. keep you poor [ __ ] up your economy [ __ ]. up your your Banks all your money went. away whoops sorry [ __ ] everything up and. and do it so that they just keep keep. you down and that's the best way to get. control and then they siphon off all the. resources they've been doing that. forever forever that's Robin Hood.

they've been doing that since the. beginning of time it's just and I think. that's why Lord of the Rings is such a. powerful thing that everyone can relate. to because it's ultimately about the. relationship with power and um froto is. trying to froto is trying to make small. government right that's what he's trying. to do but every one of us every single. one of us has a Boromir inside of us who. wants to come along and go no no no no. we'll take this and we'll use it for. good right right we'll use the power no.

no give it to me I'll I'll take care of. it I'll sort everything out you know why. don't we use this against the enemy and. that person lives inside of every human. being the the person who says give me. the power I'll take care of this you. know who else lives inside every human. being Gollum yeah yeah it's mine yeah my. precious power is like that man. it is it is and it doesn't matter how. much power you experience even if even a. little bit of power that you didn't have. before oh I've got this I can do this I.

can especially if you have contempt for. fellow human beings yeah yeah so if you. have power and you [ __ ] hate. everybody that's a bad combination yeah. you know if you have power and and. you're also a psychopath that's real but. it's also bad if you have good. intentions as well I I give you this. example I don't know if you are familiar. with tarov. he's a like a Russian director and he. based um he he did the stalker film you. familiar with stalker yeah it's not.

about a guy who stalks women it's it's a. different thing it's based on a on a. book by the strugatsky brothers it was. called roadside picnic and it's. basically about a Zone uh where the. aliens came and they did something there. nobody knows and there's all kinds of. crazy artifacts and and all that kind of. stuff but anyway in that book there is a. scene where uh there are people who. oppose this alien thing and they say we. mustn't use this we mustn't touch this. we need to get these aliens out of here. and another guy says to him why do you. fight these aliens like they want good.

they they're trying to help us they're. trying to improve things and he says I. don't fight them because I think they're. going to do evil or they want to do evil. I fight them because they're going to do. good as they understand it. whoa and that's why power is dangerous. because everyone can say I don't want. power to do bad things I want power to. do good things now give it to me. yeah yeah because when you think about. it most there's a lot of people like.

Hitler was like no we're going to do the. right thing yeah yeah we're going to do. it's going to be beautiful but you know. yeah staling St we did we did a great. episode with a guy called Steven Hicks. who's he's a historian of philosophy and. a philosopher and he basically explained. to us that the Nazis they saw themselves. as heroic they weren't doing evil in. their heads they were saving the world. in that minds of course and they're on. meth and they're on meth yeah so they. were. efficient they were German too so they. were very efficient primitive ater all.

yeah but you know and that's I think one. of the things that's good about getting. older is that you become if you've if. you've got a conscience you've become. less certain in yourself you realize the. fact that you have Darkness within you. yeah the problem is is when you talk to. people and they feel feel like they're. morally pure and you see this on the. extremes of both left and right and. that's where the Golem has coming.

because with people we've we've. interviewed people on the left and that. side of the right and you talk to them. and they're all super nice and they're. really lovely and they're like you know. we want this and we want this and we. just want people to be happier and we. feel that the best way of doing this is. this and the best way of doing that is. that and anybody can see that and then. you challenge them and they're like. you're. like you see the Golem yeah you see the. Golem comes out even for a second and. you see the look in their ey switch and. you're like holy [ __ ] yeah and you're.

sitting across from somebody so at an. energy level you go oh yeah hello yeah. there it is there it is there it is. there it is give me the power give me. the power let's also um whether you're. on the left or you're on the right if. you're entering into that Arena you're. entering into the arena of like how the. Society is structured essentially that's. what you're doing you're deciding your. way is a better way than these other. people and this is the way we should be. handling things this is what we have to.

do and this is how we have to do it. that's a weird stance to take anyway you. know unless you're exceptionally. intelligent and just really tired of it. and just like I just think I have a good. perspective and maybe this is better. than my office job I get that but. there's a lot of people that it becomes. their entire identity too your entire. identity is based on the assumption that. you're you have a better idea of how to. structure. Society yeah and we do need those people.

but they there have to be checks and. balances well you know they're just. people they're just it's just like when. you're the only person talking about. it or there's you know a a small group. of people talking about it there's still. just people talking about it it's not. necessarily representative of how most. people think especially if they weren't. influenced you know if most people were. just just a little more more objective. and didn't have to agree to certain. things if you if you say you're a. Republican or have to agree to certain. things if you say you're a Democrat if.

we could just be a little bit more. reasonable I think we would find that. there's more than enough room for a. third party in this country I mean it's. hard to get one off the ground almost. impossible because they've rigged the. whole system and most people think it's. ridiculous they're not going to vote for. a Libertarian unless you're it's a. protest vote you know they're not going. to win you know but we we have room for. leg legitimate third party because most. people I think are in the middle most. people are socially liberal most people. are like most people say yeah racism is.

terrible yeah homophobia is terrible. also letting people out of jail when. they kill people is not a good. idea you just let him right out of jail. this is crazy you know like that's not. bad and also like why are these schools. so [ __ ] up how come you've been. spending all this money in Afghanistan. you spend none of it in Detroit like. what are you doing like what how are you. guys managing this country how you. managing our tax dollars all that's. reasonable yeah I think you know I think. part of the the issue is as well Joe is. that just people we're tribal by Nature.

we don't want to we don't want to. alienate people in our tribe or people. who we perceive to be in our tribe so we. just go along with things when we really. shouldn't it's like I'm going to be. honest like even on our show when I have. to do a question that I know is going to. challenge a guest there comes a point me. where I'm like but I you go you've got. to push through you've got to do it. you've got to do it and you've got to. ask the question you have to ask them. and and I think we live in a culture and. I'm just as guilty as this as anyone.

where we just seek Comfort all the time. and then we never actually push through. and we never go I'm going to make myself. uncomfortable and by being uncomfortable. actually maybe we're all going to come. out a little bit better out of this. because I'm going to come out a little. bit better because I'm going to be. braver and maybe like my thought like or. my opinion on something it's going to be. found out to be [ __ ] and that's. going to be great for me or maybe my. argument isn't as sharp as I initially. thought and for instance if we're having.

a discussion you go hey Francis what. about ABCD and I'm like ah I didn't. think about any of that this sounded. great in my head but actually it's. pretty simplistic and one-dimensional. and if I challenge you the same thing. happens to you you go you know what yeah. I can see that but if when nobody's. prepared to do that then all that. happens is we sit in our little Silo. with our own [ __ ] little ideas that. actually when the rubber hits the road. they don't work in reality and once more. they they might it's not just that they. don't work it's said they're actually.

detrimental and destructive to human. beings right have you ever heard someone. say something and then the other person. says yeah but what about thethe thethe. like okay but you didn't whataboutism. are a perfect example of that right when. someone does a whataboutism what they're. basically saying is I'm not going to. address what you said I'm going to call. you on something to make you address. something so you stopped talking about. stuff and now you're just trying to win. and this is what most people are doing. most people are just trying to win. they're just trying to like take the.

better end of the you know whatever your. arm wrestling they want to get your. wrist bent over they want to win it's so. that's what a lot of this political. discourse in this country is about it's. about just it's connected to this. bizarre human tribal behavior of. competition that's why I brought up the. signal story because like they obious. thing that happened there somebody made. a mistake mistakes happen you make mist. I make mistakes you admit it you accept. it you investigate you find out what. happened and you move on but there are a. lot of people doing exactly what you. said what about this what about Hillary.

Clinton well she's not in [ __ ] power. now we're not talking about Hillary. Clinton we're not talking about hum and. the laptop we're we're talking about. what just happened but here's what I was. going back to earlier why don't they. have their own encrypted app why how you. spent so much [ __ ] money on all kinds. of [ __ ] how much does it cost to make an. encrypted app it can't be that much if. the government's doing about a trillion. may but. [Laughter]. but wouldn't you think you would want an. app that only you know how uh Eric. Prince has that uh that unplugged phone.

you know that I don't know anything. about it but I do know that he has his. own app on the phone that's an encrypted. app an unplugg encrypted app so you. would like how many people have that. [ __ ] thing you know like if you're. going to contact someone who has like it. would it should be something like that. but even more classified like you should. have like a website you'd probably have. to do it on an Android phone because. you'd have to download it through a. third party or get some sort of a backd. door deal with Apple where they allow. you to put it on the App Store when you. could get into it with a password or. something but how do you not have that.

that just seems insane you're using. signal I use signal how the [ __ ] are you. using signal that's crazy yeah you. should have your own [ __ ] yeah and it. just becomes about ego man it's like. this is my team we are going to win at. all cost right and then once you start. thinking that you just go well if this. person is challenging me it doesn't. matter how legitimate the challenge is. actually if I go and destroy them for. whatever even if it's an underhand means. my team still wins that's okay but it's. bad for everybody who just like.

reluctantly on your team because they. think the other team sucks more like now. you're like well you guys are sucking. close to them now don't do that yeah and. that will happen over the next four. years I think 100% it's human beings and. it's also again all these people are. doing their job for the first time you. know cash Patel just started running the. FBI like yeah just started just started. on the job like what. and has security that's not FBI security. because he doesn't trust the FBI. security so he gets his own security. what like imagine that hostile.

environment yeah and look I want all. these people to crush I want them all to. be incredibly successful at what they do. in your country and in our country. that's interesting because it makes our. country better right yeah yeah of course. you do yeah you and that's what look if. you the vast majority of people when it. boils down to it they don't care about. team left they don't care about team. right they just want a better country I. want a better America I want to come to. America and go this is the greatest. country in the world and I want to come. to Britain and go this is the greatest.

country in the world I mean we'd never. say that cuz we're British. but I mean if someone said that in. Britain you're like dude you're me I ell. generous just said it the Britain is the. greatest country in the world I don't. know she just moved there well give her. a couple of years yeah yeah and she'll. soon get dis dis disavowed of that. notion I think she's already in a. squabble with her neighbors she is like. she was doing some. construction it was already an issue. yeah I mean there is nothing more. British than that someone coming around. and going um have you got approval for.

that we're going to need to see 10 10. reams of 10 documents have you signed. have you that's that's exactly what we. do it's a whole country of homeowners. associations. yeah everybody hates homeowners. associations they always giving you a. hard time about your lawn or whatever. the [ __ ] it is like get out of here you. can't paint it that color we have. guidelines yeah but that's look I I. think that's what everybody here wants I. want America to be incredible great a. brilliant country I want that for my.

country as well I and I'll be honest. with you I'm I always normally sided. with the left because I thought that was. a way of doing it but right now I don't. care I just want the best people to come. out and work for the country you're. going to make mistakes you're going to. [ __ ] it up you're going to say dumb. stuff I say dumb stuff you're going to. put in procedures that don't work we we. all get that but what I want and what I. think the vast majority of people want. is people not on teamx or team y but on.

team Britain and Team America. yeah you know there's that saying show. me a young man who's not a liberal and. I'll show you who was who say that CH. Church Churchill and show me an old man. is on a conservative I'll show you a man. with no brain I don't necessarily think. you have to give up on people like the. idea is that at at a certain point in. time you realize like that too many. people are too [ __ ] up and you you. have to have more conservative values.

because that's the only way Society can. function but that's that's like kind of. cynical the idea is that you can't be. like a an actual true kind Progressive. person and be successful at life deep. into your 60s and70s like of course you. can it it totally can be done like. there's real genuinely kind. compassionate people out there that are. intelligent and they're not weak there's. just not that many no and there's a lot. of people that are laring there's a lot. of people that are pretending they're.

Progressive pretending they're kind when. really they're the [ __ ] people keying. Teslas there's a lot of people out there. that are just this aping this position. that they're in they're faking it I. think that's one of the big fundamental. debates between left and right Thomas. Soul has a great book about this called. conflict of Visions it's really. fundamentally about what you see as the. truth about human nature the the right. thinks human nature is imperfect and it. that's what it is and you have to deal.

with that reality some people are going. to be criminal some people are going to. be drug addicts some blah blah blah blah. blah and the left particularly at the. extreme ends thinks in utopian way. everything is changeable everything is. perfect everybody can be improved. anybody become a woman anybody can. become a woman and and and that's where. you get like uh you know the the. homelessness problem in America partly. is about that it's about the idea well. we'll shut down these terrible and they. were terrible mental institutions right. right and then we give people freedom. because anybody can handle Freedom right.

freedom is great in and of itself it's. wonderful and then you leave mentally. ill people and drug addicted people on. the streets where they have a horrible. life yeah you know and that's really the. big difference whereas the right. obviously you know it it really believes. in this idea that human nature. is corrupted I suppose and uh you have. to put things in place to manage that. and both those extremes can go in the. wrong direction and that's why you need. a balance between the two yeah yeah you. can't have like one party dominate you.

know and you just I think the good thing. about the Republicans getting into. office is it forces Democrats to be. better yeah that's a good thing I mean I. would love for some like reasonable. Democrat to come along that I can get. behind make a lot of sense it'd be great. if great be some people just come to the. center just make let's just be. reasonable about stuff it doesn't like. the this idea that you have to become a. conservative as you get older like why. who says so why you know there there are. moments the homelessness situation in. this country is so crazy but there's.

moments. where it's just really funny we were. walking down the street in DC and there. was this this lady and she was obviously. very mentally unwell she looked at me. and then she went Ash Kazi and then said. something which was a clearly. anti-semitic [ __ ] whoa and I was like. whoa and then looked at Constantine and. went biracial [ __ ] that's what I am. whoa yeah and what did you guys do to. cause this nothing we're just walking. down the street wow yeah see we walk. around a lot in America which I think a.

lot of people most people drive here so. we encounter a lot of that um and that. in every major city that we've been to. that there is a hell of a lot of people. who are just mentally ill man that's. what they are and they need help yeah. they don't need to be there with a. [ __ ] shopping car on the street with. all their belongings out of their brains. I think we need to scoop them up put. them in the factories get them to work. do what China does they're. smart imagine if that was my real.

solution I mean China does do that right. like you don't see homeless people on. the street in China they don't tolerate. any of that [ __ ] which is you would go. there you go oh it's better here but. okay at what cost exactly right yeah. like what do you do with uh San. Francisco when it gets that bad what do. you do you invite XI Jing ping over they. clean the streets right up man. immedately and the best thing was how. Newsome described is like well when your. friends come to visit you clean up the. house like what how about you just keep. your house clean you [ __ ] psycho what. are you talking about he's doing an. interesting pivot at the moment isn't.

he uh 300 million people in the country. home to 1.4 billion Chinese are homeless. what what no no no no no no there's only. a billion people Plus in China that's. what it's saying 300 million oh oh oh oh. I missed the first part that you didn't. highlighted so it's estimated that 300. million people are homeless what okay. that's crazy in the whole country yeah I. remember when I went that's called. camping in China though let's let's not. emulate them then are they counting.

Nomads are they counting people that. live in. Yurts that's interesting y seems like a. house kind of cloth house those the. Mongols they they hated houses they they. ruled over the people who lived in felt. tents yeah yeah 300 million homeless. people I mean have you been to China Joe. wow look at that no what are you crazy. not going there [ __ ] that it's an. interesting country I went there I'm. sure do you know like in I went there in.

2006 in Beijing and the pollution was so. bad you couldn't really see the Sun at. midday wow the sun was like an orange. lozenge in the sky so that's an example. what we were talking about before yeah. you like you're you're dying younger if. you live there for sure yeah absolutely. 100% that's probably like smoking packs. of cigarettes yeah packs packs packs. yeah for everybody everybody your little. baby smoking packs of cigarettes and. it's so interesting when you go there as. well like I remember we were driving. down the road and China is just this.

kind of the roads is everybody cuts each. other up everybody's trying to get one. up on the other one it's complete chaos. like you're driving down someone will. literally cut in front of you the person. will cut in front of them cut in front. of them and that's how it is until the. secret police drive by in their cars and. they make this sound they go. and then everybody falls into line. drives perfectly the secret police card. just Glides through everybody's on their.

best behavior then the car goes and. everyone's back to going. wow and you're like that is fascinating. that's how you get control over people. that's what I'm saying digital currency. social credit score let's get it. together this is uh 50 Lane holiday. traffic jam in China oh my God I have so. much anxiety right now does that remind. you of La Joe look they're all going.

through a checkpoint they have to all go. through a checkpoint that's what the. traffic Jam's about look how they went. through the checkpoint 12. day traffic jam but did you see how they. go through the checkpoint and they're. flying. through see they all go through this I'm. guessing it's a toll road right yes it's. a to St Station 3 hours to pass through. the toll stations 50 Lanes passing. through the toll. stations oh my God imagine you're in a.

Tesla and you see your battery life. going down you're like oh my God I'm so. [ __ ] I'm so [ __ ] and I'm so [ __ ]. look at this wow look at this this is. insane insane and then there's a. bottleneck getting. out oh my. God that's what happens too many people. too much control. yeah Japan's interesting you've been to. Japan I have yeah yeah but briefly I was. just there for UFC oh okay yeah yeah you. feel like if you want to go somewhere.

and you want to feel like an uncultured. uneducated Barbarian Japan's a great. place they sent me up to my room to go. put on a long sleeve shirt to hit the. gym tattoos tattoos can't have exposed. tattoos yeah I was working out with. tattoos and they told me no no no no no. are your tattoos Yakuza tattoos no but. this one is mamoto Musashi yeah who's. that the book of five rings the samurai. that killed 60 men in unarmed combat and. wrote a book on strategy you never read. the book of five rings wow it's a one of.

the great philosophy books of all time. because it's by this guy that was one of. the greatest Samurai ever and he was a. ronin so he was like traveling the Earth. having duels with people and killed 62. men in one-on-one duels and wrote about. the importance of balance he's like to. be a great Samurai you have to be a. great artist you have to be great at. craphy you have to be a poet you have to. like everything you do you have to do to. the best of your ability you can have no. holes in your game as a human being in.

order to survive and keep your [ __ ]. together and one-on-one sword fighting. he got to the point where he's so bored. killing people that he started killing. people with ores so he would carve uh an. ore in like take down the flat part and. just make it a pole and they would have. a sword and you would fight them with an. ore and beat them to death with the ore. like big old [ __ ] pole and they have. a sword and he's [ __ ] them up cuz. he's he's bored killing people with. swords he just wants a bludgeon someone. with a sword to death instead of it's.

like he would show up hours late so. they'd be [ __ ] in their pants because. they knew they were supposed to duel. moushi at like 8:00 a.m. and he'd show. up around noon with an all and they. they'd be a [ __ ] nervous wreck cuz he. knew he wasn't going to sword fight. until noon so he's probably chilling on. his boat relaxing and they all right. I'll get it down there so he rose down. there pull P out one of his [ __ ]. carved ores and beats you to death well. Joe if uh the prime minister of Britain. bans ores it's your fault mate but his.

book is amazing so I don't know I think. it's any tattoo where I got sent up to. my room I don't think you can have. exposed tattoos in this fine. establishment yeah I think it's the cuz. I've got Japanese style tattoos I think. it's it's it's the association between. tattoos and yaku's yeah yeah for sure. yeah you yeah and I'm sure a lot of. yaku's have Masashi tattoos yeah but. it's obviously I'm not in the Yakuza but. I I I do know a guy um who had a long. relationship with them um enen Anu who.

was uh an elite UFC fighter back in the. day and uh he he lives in Japan and he's. had like a bunch of run-ins with Yakuza. does he still got his fingers he does. he's he's managed to keep his fingers I. don't think he's a part of them I think. they just like respect him he's like a. famous MMA Pioneer. fighter wow yeah you that's a special. type of person who has a run in with a. Yakuza well I mean if you're living in.

that part of the world I'm sure that's. just if you're in their areas you're. dealing with them you know I mean that's. just that's how it's run over there it's. like when the Italians used to run you. know parts of New York City like that's. just how it is until the uh juli. Administration. infiltrated you know and the FBI. infiltrated the mob and they've. essentially like taken the teeth out of. the Italian M but that was that was.

Vegas the the M brand Vegas yeah it's I. thought the one of the things I find. fascinating about the Yakuza when I read. about them is their honor code mhm they. had very strict honor codes didn't they. yeah they so they never messed with old. people if someone was old appar this I. may be wrong about this but they just. wouldn't get involved they because they. had a they have a reverence for old. people I think women as well was seen as. kind of off limits in children everyone. else like if you're not obeying or. following that's fair game and they. weird you got rules in how you do evil.

[ __ ] I don't do evil [ __ ] to any Young. Folks I I stop my evil [ __ ] when I you. know anything below 16 [ __ ] that yeah. but you know that's weird controlled. evil yeah I I don't shoot any kids. anymore I did that early in my career. I'm past that you know I moved on got it. out of my do Open Mic nights. anymore I don't shoot kids I'm you know. hit man with a conscience yeah you know. it's it's it's interesting but like how.

they even have morality like I've seen a. lot of uh interviews with old gangsters. particularly from the Ronnie C from the. crazy era oh yeah you know and there was. one guy who's who's dead now is called. mad Frankie Fraser imagine running into. mad Frankie a pub mad Frankie [ __ ] it's. mad Frankie [ __ ] yeah and this guy was a. really short guy and I saw him. interviewed on on and you I might even. be on YouTube where and he told a story. and he was like you know I was going for.

a walk along Wimbledon common and I saw. uh the governor of wesworth prison where. I was for many years and he goes and I. didn't like him so what I did was I went. to I went and got my mate and he got a. rope and we got him and we started to. hang him but the problem is as we were. hanging him and I couldn't reach the. second branch cuz I'm only a little fell. so we couldn't hang him properly and. everybody was laughing and just going. this is so funny cuz he was this.

charming funny little guy and I remember. as a kid watching it watching the. audience laughing going like that ain't. funny man Jesus Christ you know and then. you go and then he went but you got to. understand you got to understand I. didn't do it to nice Ordinary People I. only did it to. Rascals and for him that was his honor. code rascal. imagine that you rascal you know imagine. that's the term you use for a guy you. had a hang a rascal he was a rascal had. to hang him rascal you silly Rascal yeah.

Jesus Christ well the world was a harder. Place back then you know I mean that's. not that long ago I mean if you if you. were in the 1950s in Vegas and you. [ __ ] up you you found yourself in the. middle of that Lake that they keep. finding bodies in you know they just. discovered some guy from the 19 1970s. that's been missing forever found them. in a [ __ ] Barrel the bottom of the. Lake Meade there's a how many bodies do. they found in lake me so far so as it.

drains as it you know because they're. experiencing significant drought the. more it drains the more bodies they keep. finding find like little hands poking up. and [ __ ] they've been killing people out. there forever and that's just the lake. that's lazy people that don't like to. dig holes that whole desert is just. filled with holes there's probably. thousands of people people buried out. there some guy who [ __ ] didn't pay. his debt some guy who talked too much to. the Press some guy who did this some guy. who [ __ ] this guy's.

wife uh since May 22 2022 four sets of. human remains have been located at Lake. me here's what we know about those. instances the body yeah so they found. that body in a barrel crazy I think that. one was from the. 70s yeah mid yeah mid to late '70s. victim's shoes and clothes uh were sold. at Kmart in the mid late 1970s. wow that's wild then six days later they.

found some imagine if you could just. watch a time lapse of them dropping that. body off in the water and then speeding. up all the. years and then eventually the water. pulls back and the barrel and the lady. walking her dogs like what the [ __ ] yeah. have you ever seen Casino yes oh man. have you seen C great great [ __ ]. movie yeah and it talks about all of. this like yeah I remember I was I was. flying to Austin actually and I just. like I haven't seen this movie in ages.

let's put it on and you know like most. movies when you watch it on a plane. you're kind of distracted you start. looking at your phone you start mucking. about whatever you're not really even if. it was on this tiny little screen it was. like zoomed straight in and it talked. about all of this stuff and I've. forgotten what a great movie it was you. know immediately you just saw and again. the honor code came out and the way they. disposed the people were like yeah we're. going to have to whack you. [ __ ] Jo. Jo oh my god when they kill those guys.

at the end like oh my god with the. baseball bats oh that was no standard. standard [ __ ] in Vegas you know I mean. the mob ran it their way and their way. is you know they're a bunch of [ __ ]. Psychopaths and people still to this day. like the Vegas was better when the mob. ran it oh yeah for you [ __ ] cuz you. survived cuz you didn't lose at. Blackjack here it is good Fellas yeah oh. and good Fellas they killed him with the. baseball Good Fellas so what am I.

thinking of with Casino no oh that's in. Casino same guy oh the same guy Billy. bats and casino that's right yeah this. is yeah look the blur of the [ __ ]. baseball bat moving towards his head. yikes yeah man you. [ __ ] you [ __ ] so how. much of that still going on Joe I don't. know I wish I knew I mean there's got to. be some of it right there got to be some. organized crime it's not like they. completely went away but I think it's. just harder these days and I think it's.

being infiltrated by Russians and. Chinese and I think they have a little. bit look if they don't if they're. speaking a Russian unless you speak. Russian you don't even know what the. [ __ ] they're saying you know they could. talk right in front of you you know and. whenever there's money to be made. there's going to be people making it if. there's people buying drugs there's. people selling it people buying guns. there's people selling it and then you. got organized crime that's just a fact. and if you make things illegal illegal. people are going to sell those things. and that's what prohibition did to. alcohol in this country and propped up.

Al Capone and it made the kennedies rich. allegedly some people say. not made Moonshiners started NASCAR. that's what Nascar comes from yeah you. know it's it's because I used to teach. in the East End of London and there's. still legends about Ronnie and Reggie. cray and the one thing that they always. used to say about Ronnie and regie they. go yeah yeah yeah they were bad people. but they were nice to their mom a that's. sweet yeah I appreciate that I like a.

good Psychopathic serial killer who's. nice to his mom yeah and they were just. like yeah but mate you're not his mom do. you know what I mean and if you pissed. them off this is what would happen and. here's the world thing Joe I taught two. boys at this school in East London can. you guess what their names were two. brothers tell me Ronnie and. Reggie wow somebody actually named their. kids somebody named their kids the crazy. names yeah so in America that's normal. oh it's just Ronnie and Reggie but in. your country it's like adol and and.

Joseph but Joseph is min. name yeah God damn that's that's a wild. family I bet like you can't name your. kid Adolf anymore it's basically. over yeah know yeah yeah they ruined a. good name no one's trying that we. actually when we used to do this comedy. show on our channel uh during the. pandemic we there was a guy in Africa. who is called. Adolf was it spelled different no no no. no no he was a tribute. act whoa yeah they named him after. Hitler oh God yeah that's crazy yeah.

yeah there's certain names that are over. it's over yeah that one's one of them. that guy killed the the name and the. mustache shit's done you know I remember. with like with this kid Ronnie and they. were just saying to him the people were. talking they were like you know what. Ronnie's not doing well at school at the. moment I'm like yeah I [ __ ] wonder. why Jesus Christ he's named after one of. the most notorious gangsters in British. history yeah probably not a stable. Family Life yeah yeah I doubt he's got.

good Role Models you know what I mean. yeah it's weird when the like Hitmen. have families and they're real kind to. their daughter and [ __ ] like that Ted. what's his no what's the guy's name that. was the ican oh that movie was. incredible did you watch a movie what is. it what was his. name that's I want to say kolinsky but. that's not your close it's klinsky or. something klinsky that's right that's. right oh that guy was that guy has. antifreeze in his veins it's terrifying. listening to him describe like the.

different murders and how he did it and. how he got started as a Hitman it's. like you know this is I'm not sure if I. should anyway a friend of a friend no. she's not she's a friend of mine she was. saying and she grew up in East London. she said and I believed her cuz her. story was so outlandish that she knew a. guy who is basically used to he was a. hitman and used to contract killing wow. and but he loved animals a really. passionate about animals squirrels feed. squirrels with peanuts no no no no he.

was big on conservation Joe oh okay so. six months of the year he would do. contract killings in London and the. other six months he would use that money. to go and fund to live in Africa where. he would kill poaches sounds like a guy. Richie movie yeah. but and I was like really she was like. yeah yeah he's just passionate about. wildlife and conservation that's. crazy they go kill poachers yeah and. that's what he did maybe that's just an. excuse to kill people and feel like.

you're being a good person yeah that's. very British though British people love. pets a lot more than they love people in. my experience oh yeah yeah yeah if you. hurt an animal in Britain you're like. you're like a [ __ ] pedophile why is. Britain that way like what is I don't. know Francis you tell me there's a lack. of hunting culture I think that's part. of it well we used to have a big hunting. culture there are HS right but not in. comparison to like America you guys like. pheasant hunt and [ __ ] like you don't. have like a lot you have Ro deer you. don't have a lot of like big game and. there's not like a high percentage of.

hunters and then fox hunting which gets. like this gross you know you know you. take you're going to kill a fox with a. horse you're going to chase him down. like that's a got a gross view generally. of the public like you bring up fox. hunting most people like oh it's. disgusting it's also a class thing as. well fox hunting is seen as a very. privileged thing to do cuz every has a. horse you know exactly and and a team of. dogs and whatever else foxes are cute. yeah you've never heard them shag. outside your bedroom window at 3: in the.

morning I had the other day I have one. in my neighborhood well you've got fox. in your neighborhood 100% yeah we got. video of him screaming in my. yard yeah he hangs out he's near my. chicken coop that [ __ ] but he's really. cute as long as he doesn't kill any of. those chickens I think he's cute why. wouldn't he kill any of those chickens. he hasn't yet you know cuz they're well. protected well they you know we we let. them out but people are watching them. when they're out make sure that you know. we've had a dog qu climbing through the. fence and get one of them a little.

neighbor's dog did Marshall not defend. them no Marshall didn't know he was. sleeping if you don't got a golden. retriever golden retriever have plenty. of energy they love to play but they. also are fine with chilling and that dog. just likes to just lay down and just. take a little nap he'll lay down like. half the [ __ ] day get up as soon as. you want to do something like come on. man let's go play like he he was more. than happy like let's go let's go he. gets excited but then then it's back to. napping he was napping while his. chickens were getting [ __ ].

up do you know who would have defended. their honor who Carl Yeah Carl would. have Carl's a little psychopath yeah. I've never seen an animal with a desire. to bite something like Carl's yeah it's. nuts when he sees Marshall he just like. like a bullet just runs full speed at. him and launches himself to the air to. bite Marshall Mar. they just wrestle around and run in. circles it's [ __ ] hilarious yeah man. there's something about that small dog. energy yeah what's crazy is they used to. be wolves you know they all used to be.

wolves and we they CU face look at these. Little Cuties they're not red they're so. adorable they're so adorable and they. make that. weird you ever heard there you've heard. it yeah yeah yeah I've been kept up many. a night for hearing animals having far. better sex than I could ever a dream of. like I I'm used to coyotes and we have. those in my neighborhood too but in La. coyotes were a real problem they killed. eight of my chickens nine of my chickens.

whatever it was um they're horrible but. they're also super necessary because. otherwise you'd have a insane rodent. problem like the they're the cleanup. crew for anything that's caught slipping. you you want to get rid of the. rabbits you have too many rodents you. have too many rats like send in the. [ __ ] coyotes so they're the cleanup. crew they're really good but they also. eat your dogs you know they'll eat your. chickens eat your cats you know they eat. people's dogs constantly I know many.

people whose dogs got eaten by Coyotes. that's the thing actually I love about. America is your Wildlife it's wild it's. wild I was with Redban uh doing his gig. uh The Secret Show and he showed me. footage from his garden they had a. mountain line a cougar coming no it. wasn't a c it was a wild cat bobcat. bobcat that was it a bob Bobcat came. into his garden this thing is like a. small puma and it had its Cubs with it. it was incredible yeah they're cute it's. wild yeah and Texas is uh you've got a.

bunch of like weird stuff that people. bring in here too you know like what. well there's more Texas like Texas has. more tigers in captivity in private. collections than all of the wild of. Earth just Texas. do you know Francis we forget something. this country is [ __ ] wild this. country is crazy there's more people. with tigers in their [ __ ] backyards. in Texas than there are in the wild of.

earth that is [ __ ] crazy yeah it's. real that's a fact and then there's all. sorts other [ __ ] that you can have here. too like exotic animals from Africa. there's animals that are endangered in. the the land that they're from but you. can hunt them. here you know my dad when my my dad in. the' 70s used to work for the Council in. East London like local government and he. was saying that there was a guy who. owned a scrapyard and was so pissed that. people were stealing scrap he bought on.

the black L on the black market a lion. to guard his scrapyard oh that's a good. move and just changed it up when it. bought a lion on the black market that. does not sound true to me mate I'm going. to fact this I think you can have a lion. here too you just have to have a permit. make sure your Lock's good you got a. good lock for the line yes sir it's a. Master Lock made in America [ __ ] it is. all right well have a good one can you.

imagine jumping over someone's into. someone's yard cuz you want to steal. something and you're confronted by a. lion yeah imagine imagine if you're one. of those poor migrants that's wandering. through Texas and you accidentally hop. the wrong fence and you go into the lion. encampment or whatever the [ __ ] they. have like what I mean I would imagine. they have ceilings on these places. hopefully which is like the San. Francisco story you know where those. kids were throwing pine cones at the. tiger and the tiger jumped over the.

[ __ ] fence cuz they didn't realize. that the fence was only like 12 feet. high and a tiger can jump 14 feet high. it got out and killed these kids killed. one kid I I think I don't think it. actually killed the kid that was. throwing the pine I think it killed his. friend or something like that so I. forget exactly what the story was but. never around when someone's doing stupid. [ __ ] huh well how about put a roof how. about put a roof over where you have the. monster How about if the monster can. jump make sure that there's a roof yeah. also don't wind up the monster don't.

take the piss but if you're one of those. uh migrants that wanders through the. desert you know and you make it across. the river and you don't know exactly. where you're going and you don't have a. good sense of direction you wind up on. some guy's property is that still going. on or is that been stopped now well it's. been stopped I wouldn't say it's been. stopped I think it's been r rically uh. diminished I think what is the numbers. of how many people are getting through. now it was from thousands to less than a. 100 a day maybe maybe a little bit more.

than that it's hard to know really right. because like what are they they're. guessing like these are the people that. didn't get caught so how do you know how. many there are but they do know that. there's not this giant line of people. that just are assuming they can get in. and walk through and they were just. letting them do that which is there's no. reasonable argument why that makes any. sense there's no re no matter how kind. you are and compassionate and how much. you think these people from a third. world country deserve the American dream. that's great but let's find out if.

they're murderers let's find out if. they're gang members let's find out if. they're hitmen for the cartel like what. do you we just letting everything open. why why would you do that there's no. rational explanation for that other than. you've got some sort of Nefarious plan. if you're forcing that trying to stop. the enforcement of that you must have. some sort of Nefarious plan because it. can't be good to let more criminals into. the country it can't be good and. inevitably if you have an open border a. percentage of them are going to be. criminals especially if they're coming. from crime infested parts of the world.

it's a high likelihood well we actually. just had a report in the UK uh which. shows that for a long time people were. saying actually these people commit. crime at a lower level uh-uh who said. that why would they say that oh people. say that all the time when they defend. illegal immigration it's such a [ __ ]. [ __ ] argument it's such a [ __ ]. argument because yeah a lot of them I. bet don't 94% fewer illegal border. crossings detected from February 25th. versus February uh 2024 yeah yeah they.

can only count them I guess by you know. when they actually stop them yes right. yeah that's a big number 94% is good so. there's still people coming through yeah. and there's probably still people coming. through that are criminals yeah you know. but the thing is. like you got to get scared that people. who are not criminals are getting like. lassoed up and deported and sent to like. El Salvador prisons like that kind of. [ __ ] cuz I'm I read some story I was it.

Glenn Greenwall the gay Barber guy yeah. yeah it's it's scary man is that true is. that story accurate I don't think we. know you explain the story for people. that don't know well from what I read I. think it was in Time Magazine Jamie if. you can pull it up and maybe we can get. it accurate but basically with a bunch. of these trender AGA guys allegedly they. got one guy who at least one guy who. wasn't a criminal uh who was just a gay. Barber who I think according to the. story came here legally he was here. legally that's what they said don't know.

if it's true he have a green card I. don't know what the details are maybe. Jamie can find it no criminal record. from what it said in that story now this. is the problem right because the. mainstream media has been putting out so. much [ __ ] that I don't know what to. believe anymore right I feel the same. way it's and and so it's difficult but. it's something that we actually bore up. in one of our conversations we. interviewed the guy from The Heritage. found Foundation we brought this up. because I think we talked about this. with Doge as well when you do things. quickly and you do things aggressively. that's how you get [ __ ] done but that's. also when mistakes get made and I think.

a human being being plucked out of. nowhere and ending up in a country he's. never been in in a Maximum Security. Prison with gang members seems like a. bad thing to happen to me it's horrific. it's horrific I don't think that should. be controversial no that's not. controversial at all and this is the. thing you know measured twice cut once M. this is the like this is kind of crazy. that that could be possible that's. horrific and that's again that's bad for. the cause like the cause is let's get. the gang members out everybody agrees.

but let's not innocent gay hairdressers. get lumped up with the gangs and then. like how long before that guy can get. out can we can we figure out how to get. him out does every does is there any. plan in place to alert the authorities. that they've made a horrible mistake and. correct it well if you think about it. from a government perspective and this. is where I think it gets quite Sinister. is once you've done that the incentive. structure is never going to be to admit. that and deal with it the incentive. structure is to say nothing to cover it. up to pretend it didn't happen that is. horrible so someone ends up in a black.

hole but we've seen it that like we've. seen it in every country including in. America but that's the thing about. politics right never admit your fault. never admit you're wrong so dumb and. this is the thing we're seeing with the. signal thing and this is the thing we're. seeing with this it's like I don't know. if it's been brought to their attention. I mean I would assume someone's alerted. them to the fact that they might have. rounded up this just random hairdresser. and accused him of being a gang member. did you find the story. Jamie Time Magazine the thing is it's.

like what steps can be taken do does the. prison know now does everybody can they. talk to that guy can they pull him out. of there well well this is it it's a. maximum security it's a Maximum Security. Prison so the answer I think is we don't. know at this moment but but what is his. life like in there man I mean yeah it's. horrific this is also part a large part. of why this happened is because of. illegal immigration so you had this and. look I'm half Venezuela and you had TR. aragua which Causes Chaos in Venezuela.

it comes to the US it causes horrendous. amounts of Chaos in the US and that's. awful but also as well is there an. Ordinary Decent hardwork in Venezuelan. so all they want to do their entire. country has gone to [ __ ] who have come. here legally they just want to work they. want to get ahead they have jobs they. just have got families they're trying to. make ends me and all of a sudden all you. hear is Venezuelan does this Venezuelan. does that and you're like oh my God man. you know it it tars all of us with that.

brush right you I was walking in New. York and I saw this group of this. Venezuelan family and they were they. were there begging for for money and for. whatever else and maybe it just hits. harder because you know they they're. from where I'm from or where my mom's. from and and you just go it just. tarnishes all of us with the same brush. when the the reality is like we were. saying before most of them are just good. decent hardworking people but because. you don't have checks and balances in. place because you're not letting people. you're not vetting people you're getting.

the worse of society and the worse of. society gives everybody else a bad name. gives everybody a bad name but also you. you have to wonder why that's being. tolerated is that being done on purpose. is it do you want more crime and more. civil unrest is is this part of your. goal why else would you do this why why. why do you want to disrupt Society in. this way and allow this to take place. allow the possibility of some sort of a. gang attack or anything horrible to. happen what is this Jamie oh this is it.

there's one in fores as well J from Time. Magazine a photo journalist was on hand. in El Salvador as prison guards beat a. man who is likely to be Andy a gay. Venezuelan Barber makeup artist who is. seemingly falsely accused of being a. gang member and renditioned by the Trump. Administration with literally no due. process yeah so uh do they have a. photograph that looks like this guy's. that with a young man sobbed when a. guard pushed him to the floor he said. I'm not a gang member I'm gay I'm a. barber I believed him he began to.

whimper as his head was roughly shaved. folding his hands in prayer as his hair. fell he asked for his mother and cried. as he was slapped again Jesus. Christ I sent you the forb story John. you f if you can forward it to Jamie. maybe he can pull it up yeah okay sure. um and [ __ ] man yeah I don't know did. Glenn greenall WR it for sure that's. probably Glenn commented on it but there. is a for story that I found out about it. from Glenn guess yeah it's um it's it's.

just you know it's it's awful that you. know CU you put yourself in that. person's shoes yeah and I what's. terrifying about that is that you think. about what that poor guy is going. through yeah you know if this story is. real what that guy is going through that. is literally the stuff of nightmares. yeah that's literally the stuff of. nightmares you have no recourse to any. type of of of Justice there's there's no. due process you get rounded up you then.

get kicked out of the country you're in. a Maximum Security Prison with some of. the most vicious gang members what to. know about Andre 31-year-old makeup. artist falsely deported to El Salvador. prison lawyer says immigration. attorney say uh G as willing make. seeking asylum in the US was wrongly. detained as a gang member and deported. to El Salvador a case becoming a flasho. in the debate over the Trump. administration's deportation of hundreds. of migrants to a notoriously inhumane El.

Salvador Mega. prison man so again this is It's hard to. know what it's hard to know what's real. and what's not real but if it is real. this is [ __ ] horrible but if you. think about a joke like I say if you're. rounding up hundreds of people mistakes. are going to get made CU everyone's. human. and you then have to have a system I. think that allows you to amend and make. adjusts for that absolutely and it can't. be bury your head in the sand and. pretend it didn't happen no yeah and.

this is the trouble with government the. incentive structure is all wrong like to. admit that is now. embarrassing that's crazy right um and. it's scary we have the same problem in. the UK in terms of the illegal. immigration and if we ever get a. government that's going to deal with. that we're also going to have to remove. a lot of people who are there Al they. shouldn't be there a lot of them are and. you know like I said we had a report. that shows they're way more likely to. commit sexual crimes way more likely to. commit violent crimes the way more. likely to commit all sorts of crimes we.

are going to have to remove them but you. have to do it in a way where there's due. process and a respect are they trying to. remove them in England no no at all. they're saying they are but they're not. removing them interesting yeah so the. mistakes like that have to be corrected. if you want reasonable people to be on. board with you correct yeah correct if. you want you know compassionate people. to be on board with you you can't Deport. gay hairdressers seeking Asylum that's. [ __ ] crazy and then throw in an El. Salvador prison that's that's not even. his country right you Deport people back.

to their country right it's nuts it's. just what was the story with the student. that got arrested for writing an oped. piece uh is that the khil guy or no the. woman is that the girl from the Korean. girl from is that the Korean girl from. Columbia University I don't know that's. a different one there's so many of them. there was a woman who got arrested for. writing some sort of a thing this is a. Turkish student at tus University latest. Palestinian supporter swept up in US.

Crackdown right what did um what did she. get arrested. for have you seen this one no I I saw it. but I haven't delved into. it Joe sorry could have the lighter. please yeah sure thank you here you go. she engaged in activities and support of. Hamas a foreign terrorist organization. that relishes the killing of Americans. but the department did not provide. evidence of that support right you what. does that mean I I heard she wrote some. peace on on Israel yeah I don't know.

what the law of that is because she's. not American National right but. instinctively I'm just like that's. that's that's a lot that's like crazy I. think she's been in America though since. she was seven right um is has she I. believe so I thought she had a student. visa I think she's been in America since. she was very young I think that's one of. the things that I had read okay she'd. previously been arrested in April 2024. for. taking. yeah taking part in protests at Columbia.

University so it seems like they're. really trying to crack down at some of. these Columbia protest. right and I'm in two minds about that. because I think on a free speech basis. unless I don't know the law just for. clear that was a second person second. person oh this is a second person that. was arrested second arrest oh second Pro. Palestinian Columbia University. protester okay so this second person has. been arrested before yeah okay I see. yeah. yeah it's like are we really arresting. people for protesting or are they.

protesting and also causing vandalism. and violence like what what are we. saying we don't know right all right but. I I I think there's uh the legal thing. of from what I've read is very. complicated because if someone is not a. US national right they may be subject to. different rules or they may not I think. that's a kind of live debate. um but from a purely principal. perspective someone being arrested for. writing an article seems extreme. 30-year-old was arrested and physically. restrained by immigration officers near. her apartment close to tus University. Summerville Somerville campus where she.

was a PhD student six plan Clos officer. surrounded how do you say that name. ozerk oerk urk as she walked alone. neighborhood surveillance video appears. to show the officers did not show their. badges until she was restrained the. video. shows she uh affiliated with presious. American universities to be arrested for. purported activities related to. terrorist organizations adid the Trump. administration's immigration Crackdown. so what did she say though like she.

engaged in activities in support of. Hamas but what does that mean right. without specifying what those Alle. alleged activities were yeah this is. scary [ __ ] yeah yeah you know especially. if it's just protesting I mean I don't. know you know look the counterargument. on this and I think it's one that I as. someone who visits the United States. also feel is like I don't think the. United States would have given this. person Visa if she had told them this is. what she plans to do in America right so. that's their argument that's the.

argument that Marco Ruby is making which. is if we known you were going to do this. we were never going to give you a Visa. right I don't think this is the one that. I'm thinking about that was here since. she was seven no that's a Korean go at. Columbia University Joe oh okay and. they're talking about deporting her. right yes they're talking about. deporting her but I I I don't know. enough about what had she done had she. committed vandalism or I I don't know. enough about it Jamie if you get it up. then we can um have a look at it but but. that's that's the one you're thinking of. the girl who've been here since she was. seven is a Colombia.

student this girl also went to Columbia. since she's got a master's degree at. Columbia yeah interesting so Colombia is. the hot bed seems like that yeah I. wonder. why why particularly Colombia well there. there have been a lot of protest Pro. Palestine protest in col. there she. is. yeah yeah that's that's the goal you. know the we're rapidly approaching the.

time where America and the UK are going. to is going to have a pretty. uncomfortable debate as to what is. acceptable and what is unacceptable when. it comes to dealing with people yeah who. come here illegally people who commit. crime or even if they attend protests. where is where is the line because we're. going to have to make a decision because. until we do that and we start to. actually apply the law as it's meant to. be applied and in put certain laws in. place then these type of things are just.

going to continue to happen yeah 100%. especially if someone wants them to. happen because that's what my fear is. that a lot of these things are paid for. and organized including a lot of these. protests at universities I I think. they're doing it on purpose and I think. they're trying to build up a lot of. passion in these people for being. disruptive and a lot of passion for. protest and passion for and then they. weaponize it I really do I believe. that's exactly what they did with the.

Tesla buildings with all the Tesla. dealerships being light on fire they. they weaponized it and it's a good test. run you know if they can weaponize it. against Tesla they can they can do that. with a lot of other things and justify. that kind of vandalism and fire and. arson and all the chaos and property. destruction I went to UCLA campus this. was May last year and I went to a pro. Palestine demonstration and I just went. around just interviewing people talking. to students and both on Pro Palestine. and the other side and one thing one of.

the kids said to me was as he was trying. to get into the library he was like you. know most of the people who are doing. this they're not from UCLA they're not. from this college campus right what are. they doing here right he goes look fair. enough if you want to protest and you go. to UCLA that's all cool whatever number. one don't stop me from getting an. education when my parents have paid x. amount for it but number two like he. pointed at one of the dudes he was like. that guy's about 42 I know he doesn't go. to my college why is he here protesting.

he's being paid yeah and you're right. and there are a lot of foreign. governments that want this [ __ ] to be. going on 100% And there's a lot of bots. online that want this to be there's a. lot of there's a lot of like momentum. that pushes things into these directions. these are not organic just like Bernie. Sanders rally numbers aren't organic. like these are not organic there's. there's a Nar I mean that was during the. Comm Harris Administration or during the. um uh campaign rather you you saw these.

inorganic moments where they filled. these Arenas with people that were paid. and they spent how many billion two. billion dollars over the course of three. months to do this and it failed but it's. like you're manufacturing this. this passion manufacturing this movement. and a lot of people are dumb and it. works on them like you don't know like. I'm sure you saw that lady who was like. bragging about buying champagne and.

making fun of the guy selling her the. champagne because he wasted his vote on. Trump and I'm buying champagne to to Pro. to to toast Madame President it's she's. going to win women have come to the like. they she really believed it like cuz. they gaslit people so hard with their. field Arenas and all the news coverage. on CNN and MSN NBC and the polls are. showing the polls are showing and it's. going to be K Harris going to. be and they they just gaslit the whole. country and this is what happened with. all that woke cancellation stuff as well.

where it was a very small number of. people who made themselves look a lot. bigger online right in order to then get. companies to back down to get. universities to back down in order in. order to get other organizations who. were just scared of the bad attention. yeah to back down I look at a lot of. stuff that happens on social media I'm. going there's no [ __ ] way that has. got 80,000 likes organically that. there's not that's not real no you know. it's hard to say what's real and what's. not real and until you take that chip in. your head you're not going to know.

that's all you need to sign up for the. neuralink program yeah it's one of the. things that I I'm really hopeful Elon. can solve with X is just that was one of. the things he said when he took over we. need to deal with the bot problem I. think there's more to do on that front. for sure there's a lot more to do and I. don't know what they can actually do. because with AI I mean you can have like. really sophisticated programs that tweet. as if they are from Afghanistan tweet as. if they're from wherever they are in the.

world they can do it in different. languages it's all it can all be done. with AI now and they can argue specific. points like you know this guy is a Nazi. go out there and say it and prompt it. and then all of a sudden you've got. looks like ground swell support calling. Elon musazzi and then a bunch of people. hop on to that and they think it's. organic and they think that like these. Tesla these people are fed up that's why. they're going to the Tesla dealerships. no they're get they're being paid and. they're trying to crash the stock of. Tesla they're trying to put people into. panic mode so that it puts pressure on.

Elon to drop Doge like this is what's. going on like and you you're watching it. as if it's this organic moment it's a. puppet show you're watching a puppet. show and that's the thing that you know. that really worries I think everybody at. the moment is is at a very basic. fundamental level. I don't know what's real and what's not. no I don't either. I yeah I wish I did cuz people think I. do like oh you have inside information I. don't have any I have zero I don't know.

what's going on but but people but do I. think we all need to understand you to a. greater extent us to a lesser extent. like we're not real people to to people. online we're just avatars right and then. they imbue us with this knowledge that. we've got this knowledge that we can. controlled opposition oh we so that we. get that so much it's hilarious that is. the that's for people that are just a. little too smart to believe the Earth is. flat they'll go with controlled.

opposition but it's just they just don't. know like if you're on the outside. looking in like if you're looking at Tom. Hanks in his house oh I must be a. pedophile to get that. house you know what I mean like you. everybody on the outside of like people. that are which you know with a guy like. Tom Hanks is enally like a kind of. royalty like a movie star royalty like. that class of celebrity is like a almost. Beyond and so they don't seem like. normal people to you they go to that. Eyes Wide Shut party and drink baby.

blood and like there's all these bizarre. things attributed to those people and. they're in control of the narrative and. they're but there's some people that. really are in control of the narrative. there's some people that really are like. Ci AG that are on TV shows you know. that's real there's like people that. have worked for the CI that are now on. television telling you what the news is. if that doesn't seem [ __ ]. crazy you know it's just we're uh going. through a bizarre period of uh being.

bombarded with constant information. having unprecedented access to each. other and and information and also. watching all the powers that be try to. snatch up more and more control over. Society we watching it play out in real. time and we're concentrating on girls. and sports and whether or not this is. real should gay people still be able to. get married it's all [ __ ] like. you're just watching more and more power.

be acquired by the people with the most. amount of money H yeah and that's why. people like Jeff Bezos buy with the. Washington Post well at least he turned. it around and said lately that they're. going to have to stop with all these. left-wing opinion pieces and just post a. about the news yeah you know which. everybody's freaking out because they. really think they have like a a mandate. to be like the the moral voice of the. world which is so hilarious I I agree. with you that is good but do you think.

any journalist is going to be allowed to. write a piece about Amazon criticizing. them I doubt it I wouldn't do it if I. work there I'd shut my [ __ ] mouth I. want to buy a. house trying to buy a house yeah I don't. I can't lose I get it yeah they should. get more money whatever and that that. comes back to our Lord of the Rings. conversation because even. well-intentioned people who are doing. things that we might like right. everyone's got an agenda well and comes. along and equally distributes all the. money so.

what's boys let's wrap this up um I. appreciate you both very much it's. always cool to talk to you I'm happy you. visit often and uh I'm glad you're. having a good time over here and I hope. you get your [ __ ] [ __ ] together with. your country because come on come on now. can I just say one thing yes uh I've got. a book out in August uh it's called. classroom confidential uh it's in August. it's coming out it's yeah August the. 18th have you finished it I finished it. Tak that long to release a book yeah it. does it does it does particularly the. print printing printing industry in the. UK yeah so uh but yeah so it's coming.

out it's all about being a teacher and. way should never be one and it's very. funny beautiful very beautiful we'll. come back when it's when it comes out. come back we'll talk again I'd love to. um your show trigonometry it's available. everywhere anything else uh we both got. substacks y I've got a substack he's got. a sub St look at you guys [ __ ]. writing and. [ __ ] um and your show is how many times. a week do you guys do it we put two. episodes out every week uh so Wednesdays. and Sundays is interviews do you do like.

substack episodes like different ones or. patreon or anything so yeah on sub on. our substack on the trigonometry. substack you get to hear the guest. answer your questions so people send in. questions ahead of time that's cool oh. that's nice yeah people love that that's. a great idea that's a good way to add. extra value yeah that's what we're. always thinking about is how do we offer. people who support us Extra Value cuz. unlike the people on the internet who. say we're controlled opposition paid by. blah blah blah we're actually just paid. by our fans that's actually a very good. idea though to let the the fans actually.

have questions too and read those off. find the good ones and a lot of them are. good ones and what we often do as well. is we look through them before the. interview and if we can't get them in at. the end we'll actually try and. incorporate them into the discussion. itself oh beautiful yeah okay appreciate. you both very much always thanks brother. thank Youk much bye everybody. [Music].