Joe Rogan Experience #2282 - Bill Murray

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day yeah thank you for doing this this. is a huge honor for me I'm a giant fan. forever like since I was a kid so well. are we going yeah we're we're live so. for me meeting there's certain people I. meet where it's like whoa okay and. you're those you're one of those well I. have a very different experience I only.

know about you what I've heard I've. never uh heard your show I had to ask. you are you joke. cuz I somehow I knew you were like in. the fitness and everyone out there seems. to be a weightlifter in your in your. outer even Danielle seems like she's she. did lower body today but uh it's uh so. it's it's it's nice to meet you and. people are are Al you know there some. people are very very excited that I've. got gotten come down here to to be on. your show so.

well you're an interesting guy other. people are concerned for me so oh really. are they legitimately I don't know I. don't know if it's the I don't know why. it's the weightlifter thing because I. have no I have no predisposed I have no. premonitions about but when I walk in. here and I see. um I got to look at that what is that. green oh that's a the local racetrack. that's the Circuit of the Americas where. Formula 1 races okay uh it's my friend's. place so he gave me that okay um yeah I. walked in I saw all these Hunter.

Thompson things I felt automatically. like okay well this guy can't be a. complete. disaster and then I walked down the hall. and there's Hunter wearing a hat that I. gave him oh that hat with with the gun. yeah the one where he's in a cockpit it. looks like yeah dog hair hat that's dog. hair W it's made out of dog hair yeah. and he got such a kick out of it because. when it rains on you or snows on you. like it would in in Woody Creek you come. in the house and you smell like a wet.

dog and he loved like doing that to. people the people go like what in the. hell like oh my dog you know that's the. dog right there yeah Al so this is are. you filming this too this is the. whatever you do yeah yeah. so uh yeah there he is there's that dog. head it's got it had like big like tie. things you could tie it under your chin. if it what year was. this this is. well I would wow look at that one wof.

Lawyers Guns and Money Jesus those are. those are later ones yeah he didn't have. scopes for a long time that was. uh he had hearing protection then too he. was learning 86 well no we're all. learning something about maybe what that. one there is 86 with the dog yeah yeah. that's probably uh yeah it was earlier. blind blind bat where's that that's. funny.

it's a a rep it's a historic piece I. guess when did you meet. him I met him uh let me drink your magic. coffee here whose coffee is this. Hamilton magic Hamilton superfoods I met. him uh it was one of those years maybe. it was after my first real year on. Saturday Night Live maybe it was. 1970 uh s like this spring summer of. 77 uh I was asked by Lauren Michaels the.

producer sat live if I would I had to go. to our season was head ended I'd gone to. California and uh he asked if I would. drive his Volkswagen convertible Bug. back cross country for him I like yeah. sure well you know a week or two later. he was like where's my car I'm like you. didn't give me a time limit you know I. visited people on the way so I made some. stops I never I visited my friend uh. John Thompson in Reno biggest little. city in the world and we were you know.

threw our cups out the roof and stuff. like that had had a really nice time. there and then I wanted to go to Aspen. I'd never been to Asen before and so I. went to Aspen and stayed at the Jerome. Hotel I can talk like this because this. show is. like endless right yeah yeah yeah yeah. yeah. so. um went to the Jerome hotel which was. like the place to go back then and it. was off seon which is the best time year. to go to any Resort town is like when. all the tourists are gone and the.

citizens regain control of their town. for a while yeah so the drum hotel which. would have been full of like knucklehead. skiers from anywhere was only full of. like the people that worked the town and. lived in the town and they took over the. bar and they took over the swimming pool. which was outside so that's I was there. and it was just I remember being there. and they were like beautiful girls and. this really funny guy and I didn't know. who he was and we just had the most fun. you know making girls laugh that's kind.

of what you know may or may not have. been the reason I was brought here but. you know that's so we just had the most. fun doing it and then we had this sort. of episode where you know we we did an. escape act and it was it had you know. consequences you. may um I we started talking about an. escape act underwater Escape act and I. felt like I could do it you really think. you could Escape underwater Oh no and I. said yeah I think I could do it I think. I could do it cuz you just I.

so we agreed to I agreed to be a. subject and uh you have to know I did. not know who this guy was I just thought. he was like a funny guy you know so um. and we were like showing off for girls. and stuff and being stupid and it was. fun we were just having fun so I was. tied with socks to a a lawn chair and. and lowered into the pool but just. before I went I said hey just in case I. want to take a breath while I'm on tying.

my sock. knots I would move me over here to where. it's like six feet you know so if I have. to stand. up uh you know I can get a take a breath. and go back down and continue my untying. you. know so I went in and you know I was. untying and guy could tie some knots you. know even with socks so after a little. bit I thought early I was like you know. maybe I'll just take a quick breath and. go back down well I stood up well try it. um Joe um try to lash yourself to a.

chair and try to stand up yeah it's hard. well I'm I'm a little over six feet but. if you're tied to a chair you don't get. to fully extend right your Cales any. more than that so tied to a chair I'm. only like. five he couldn't get out 58 or something. like that and I just it was funny to see. like that camera shot of like there are. people up there and I can't reach them. or speak to them because I'm still. underwater. so that's when I started to work more.

fly on the feverishly on the on the. knots and I kind of was going hey hey. you know this is yeah you know I'm kind. of leaning with my head like push me. down to five feet instead of six feet. you know so but he was strong enough and. because I was boyant in the water he. just picked up the chair out of the. water so I I I lived through it but it. was it was a funny way to meet someone. and the next day I found out uh that. this was Hunter S. Thompson he never asked him his name.

no he never asked me my name I don't. know that he knew who I was either you. know I I think he thought I was just a. funny guy and we were kind of like. holding court and being funny everything. starts with good health that's why ag1. is a great addition to any morning. routine and why I've partnered with them. for so long one scoop once a day simple. research back and designed to support. your whole body health and it actually. tastes great you can forget juggling. multiple pills and supplements ag1 is a.

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where like you're not a cell phone guy. you probably don't even have email do. you no I have them I have these things. now but if you have children you have to. have a you have to get a cell phone. right because they will not answer a. telephone but they will answer a text so. that's I had a breakdown yeah but you've. managed to stay blissfully detached in. some sort of a way yeah my email is. aol.com is it really yeah so that's. that's that was my concession to it but.

one of my favorite things you did with. Hunter was when um it was a filling of. some sort of a documentary or something. or is in a documenter the footage is and. you're going around trying to convince. people that Nixon got a bad rap yeah. yeah that was good we were trying to we. were trying to write something funny I. was with my friend dick basuchi on that. one and I can't remember there like two. or three of us that were trying to write. this thing and we rented a like a CLE. light uh you know like a big Hollywood. Premiere kind of one of those giant. lights that they flash up in the sky you.

know you don't even see them very much. anymore but and we were just outside the. Chateau Mormont where Hunter had a room. at that moment and and we were doing U. we were excited because Nixon's back you. know and we were interviewing alleged. people on the street men on the street. saying what do what do you think about. this because it was after Watergate and. Nixon had basically burrowed down. and and uh Hunter had of like. a powerful hatred of of Nixon really. didn't like Nixon of course but I just.

remember dick Bliss suuchi saying uh. well I'm excited uh he's tanned he's. rested and he's ready I still I still. say it all the time I just I say it. about myself all the time because I. think it's funny how are you Bill I'm. tanned I'm rusted and I'm ready but. saying it about Richard Nixon I thought. was a really brilliant thing to say well. after that it became a common phrase. yeah like people use it all the time to. this day probably not even knowing the. origin that's right yeah and it's stick. basuchi who did it and uh and we we we.

weren't there for like 45 minutes before. like I work in the industry and I know. you have to have a permit to have that. light on I mean there were people they. came at us we were we were going. concerned for about one hour tops and. that was with like professional. argumentative people like Hunter myself. going that is a fabulous uh watch you're. wearing where'd you get that you know do. just anything to keep this thing going. and to keep the the cameras rolling on. our super stuff.

but and demands but uh yeah that's that. was one of the things I had a lot of fun. with the guy really he he really was a. lot of fun he really could make a lot of. fun I really wish I met him he's one of. those people that just really wish I'm. at him well you can still read it you. know there's still so much more stuff. that I didn't hadn't even read then it. just keeps appearing their things are so. beautiful that he wrote that that are. good and uh you know people text me.

things and say you know about what. what's going on how sort of pressed he. was about things a long time. ago yeah dead on about so many things I. mean you could take a lot of his. commentary on politics from 1976 and. apply it easily to today you know Fear. and Loathing on the campaign Trail is. one of the best books ever on the. American political system just like what. it's like when people are running for. officee yeah it's a to me it's a better. book than Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. which is is fun but the campaign Trail.

book is so insightful about America and. and about Americans you know it's great. reading no the movie was fun Fear and. Loathing was fun it was just it was a. great introduction to a lot of people. maybe that weren't aware of Hunter like. maybe then you'll start reading his his. stuff but it's it wasn't all you know. chaos and acid and seeing lizard people. in the in the bar it was there was like. even there's moments in fear and. loathing the movie where you know he. there's this one thing where Johnny Depp.

is at the typewriter or is that in the. movie or is that in um the. documentary I know where is that the. typewriter is talking about how the. 1960s there was this great wave of. change and yeah the high water mark You. See It on the Mountain it's a beautiful. beautiful piece of oh my God it's. amazing it's and when Johnny Depp is. saying the way he's saying it it's like. it's so beautiful and melonic yeah why. don't you Jim see if you can find it's.

about the most famous it's the most. famous line. You Beautiful grab the headphones let's. take. this strange memories on this nervous. night in Las. Vegas has it been 5. years. six it seems like a. lifetime the kind of peak That Never. Comes. again San Francisco in the middle 60s. was a very special time in place to be a. part.

of but no. explanation no mix of words or music or. memories can touch that sense of knowing. that you were there and alive in that. corner of time in the. world whatever it. [Music]. meant and you may. not there was Madness in any direction. at any hour you could strike Sparks.

anywhere there was a fantastic Universal. sense that whatever we were doing was. right that we were. winning and that I think was the. handle that sense of inevitable victory. over the forces of old and. evil not in any mean or military sense. we didn't need. that our energy would simply. Prevail we had all the. momentum we were riding the crest of our. a high and beautiful.

wave so. now less than 5 years. later you can go up on a steep hill in. Las Vegas and look West and with the. right kind of. eyes you can almost see the high water. mark that place where the wave finally. broke and rolled. back God damn that's good yeah I mean.

that is just an amazing piece of writing. that so perfectly captured that very. strange moment in time where the. anti-war the the Peace Love movement. just got drowned out by the Nixon. Administration it's a beautiful piece um. it it glistens your eyes to see it you. know not just. the thinking of Hunter and the words. that he said but seeing Johnny and and. how how close Johnny and Hunter became.

how how much they loved each other and. how much they they shared with each. other it's really beautiful piece thank. you yeah it is a beautiful piece it and. it's uh it's just so [ __ ] perfect it. just perfect yeah he got it he really. got it yeah it just encapsulates that. that time you know and it's just thank. God there was a guy like him around to. document it from that perspective to to. like to give you this like insight and.

that the way he did it with Gonzo. journalism where he just would have real. facts mixed in with fiction and you. couldn't tell what was what and you had. to be in on it to understand what he was. doing yeah you had to enter the event. yeah to to comment on it you had to be a. part of it yeah. yeah uh you played him I did play him. yeah we were talking about it before I. loved it with Buffalo room yeah we're. the Buffalo room was that weird to play. your. friend it was a lot of responsibility.

yeah I mean it was. um any actor that has to play either a. living person especially a living person. or a a famous person has a real. responsibility. to to that person you know you can't. just be that person for 90 minutes you. have to realize that person was that. person for 60 some OD years or 70 how. however many years a person was you've. got to try to get all that into your. hour and a half or two hours you've got.

to try to take in as much as you can so. you're not lying you know at least. you're given the best you can to say. this is who I think he was this is who I. think that person was she was he was did. you run any of it by him did you try to. talk to him as. him well he was living in the guest. house so you were around him all the. time. yeah so I would go to work and um I.

would come. home and then we would stay up and. uh sort of just an hour or so before. maybe an hour and a half before two. hours before Dawn he'd have. a uh a NyQuil and. scotch in the in the hot tub and then go. to sleep and then I had to get about 90. minutes and then the teamster was. knocking on the window saying.

Bill Billy you then I'd have to go to. work that's what it was like while we. were shooting the movie wow. yeah and he appears in the movie. briefly he appears in the movie briefly. I can't remember all of it but he. appears in the movie briefly and we did. together we wrote a scene we I was. always constantly. changing uh joh Jun K wrote the script. but I was always playing with it and. because I was always being informed more. you know and I that's I did anyway I. just pretty.

much you know I felt the freedom to. change anything but we did write a scene. Hunter and I wrote a scene late that was. late in the movie pardon me they gave me. these. beautiful massive U things cough drops. yeah want one no thank. you. um yeah so he was in on a lot of it and. and and the and the editing of it you. know we we can secretly say that too and.

and the and the. um you know it was a lot of um there was. a he was really. involved very nice so good. shot um so you're saying he wrote a. scene you guys wrote a scene yeah we. wrote a scene together yeah which was um. encountering Nixon in in a urinal cuz he. did have a moment with Nixon where you. remember yeah yeah and he was told he.

could not speak politics they could only. talk NFL football yeah which Nixon was. rather you know knowledgeable about you. know another cop to it was like yeah the. guy really studied it and and George. Allen he it's in the book you know but. yeah he even Nixon even wrote a designed. a play that he gave to George Allen who. was the coach of. the Washington Redskins back then and uh. it was like it was they lost like 10. yards or something on the play but Ellen. actually played ran the play ni play.

yeah that's crazy it's just. also insane that they would let Hunter. get in a limousine with the president. like just that alone like. who you know who green lit that who. thought that was a good idea he he' been. on the I mean he was on the campaign. Trail he also for whatever he was the. people who knew and you know like Secret. Service guys you ever run into them they. like read people for a living this is.

what they do you know they read people. and they can really burn a hole through. your head and your body just looking at. you and they'll give you this one you. know they'll just really burn you and. you know he'd been on the tour the tour. he'd been on the on the road with them. they knew who he was they knew what he. was after hours and they knew what he. was during hours where he the people who. were really smart knew this guy's really. smart this guy's really smart he knows. politics.

and you can't try to dumb down you can't. try to like big time him because he'll. kill you he'll chop you he's he's got. the words to answer and he has the. intelligence so he was he was a force. people knew who he was you know even the. you know to get information you got to. go into the people who work for the guy. you know he so the people that work for. the guy know who he is and they've. already established that they have a. relationship with him they can speak. with him he's talking a certain way.

there's a reality check you know if. you're running someone's political. campaign you have the best jokes about. the campaign you know not Hunter. Thompson maybe but you have the best. jokes because you've seen it all you. know how stupid things get and and you. know if you can be realistic and Savvy. about those things and then people trust. you well you know it's still pretty. extraordinary that they also got them to. agree or at least thought he would agree. that he would only talk about football. well he knew if you blew it right that. was it and that was going to be the end.

of it and it was only well I don't know. what month it was but there's more. coffee in this if you like oh is that. your stuff no that's everybody's okay. well I we'll try to finish off I I just. feel like yours is probably it doesn't. have to be. super I keep coffee for days at least at. least two days if it's not hot it's got. ice in it you keep drinking I just keep. drinking it yeah that smells good what. kind is that Black Rifle coffee where's. that come from uh it's a American. company veteran owned company that um.

made by real coffee nuts that travel. around the world and find different. blends and different it smells good. there's lot of coffee you can't smell. very good. coffee yeah it's just that um that. meeting in the limousine is like one of. my favorite meetings because it just you. could feel how weird it must have been. for Hunter to be sitting in a limo. getting a ride with Nixon and they're. just talking about football and they. find this is happening this has been.

happening in my life anyway I'm sure. it's happening in everyone's life for. the last got to be 10 years where you. meet people we have something in common. we've got a we've got a something we got. to get done you. know but if we talk politics we're. leaving the rails you know all hell's. going to you know we're we're not going. to get along we're not going to get. anything done we're never going to be. friends and and you know it could get be. worse than that we could be we could you.

know be adversaries or even enemies or. right you know. so that I mean it's you you mentioned it. it's like I go places where and I'm sure. you do too where you just can't talk you. just don't want to talk politics with. people because there are people that are. you know whose politics can be the exact. opposite of yours. completely 12 to six and yet there are. people that have lived lives that are so. extraordinary and so enormous in terms.

of what they give to the world and the. planet and you think how you know why. would I like ever want to get how do. it's it's a mystery you know it's kind. of a mystery but. it's if you don't like value that first. instead of your kind of political you. know handkerchief you know you're you're. making them more of a mess you know. that's kind of what's. you know that's that's what I feel a lot.

about what's going on in anywhere. everywhere you know that people are. leading with their their handkerchief. and not their not with their uh whole. self you know what they understand about. what living is I agree 100% I think that. we're just too tribally divided and. people look at it like it's US versus. them they en enjoy the comfort of being. a part of a tribe they lock on to. whatever ideologies the tribe support. and and then anybody who opposes that is.

somehow another the enemy and it's just. a it's a division tactic that's been. used by the people that actually run the. government the actual World itself the. real people of this world especially the. people of this country have mostly share. the same Common Core needs you want to. be healthy you want to have a good. family you want to be able to make a. living you want to live in a safe place. you want your kids to be able to go to a. good school you want everybody to. prosper and have a good time that's most. of what life is all this other [ __ ] that.

people get so goddamn caught up in most. of it has very little to do with you and. you get locked into it like it's 100% of. your identity and the next thing you. know anybody who opposes you is Hitler. and it it just gets that's true it gets. so tox his name gets bed about a lot. lately doesn't it yeah it's a good one. you know but you sort of started it by. saying by bringing up that quotation of. hunters which is so and and I think. about that all the time I I I I can not.

but I think about it regularly like what. was that that. force that that movement had that. anti-war movement whatever that was you. know it wasn't perfect you know it. wasn't perfect I think the thing that if. if I had to regret anything or anyone. regrets anything about it was the sort. of hostility that was shown towards the. actual servicemen right most of whom. were drafted right you know right to. fight you know so that those service.

people had an experience that I will. never have I was in a military movie. that's as good as it ever got for me but. there's the thing about being in war. together with people is Everybody Hates. War and who could hate it more than. someone that was there right but the. sort of camaraderie that you had is an. experience I'll never have that I'll. never have that thing that you know. Rambo had you know I'll never have that. thing and I don't think that I I think.

that the sort of there could have been. more Vision about who's who we're. talking to or who who we're talking to. about whatever kind of change you want. to make and so that the Agents of it are. not necessarily The Architects like you. say the people who are making this. tribal thing they're not the Asians of. it you know they're The Architects of it. and it's and how how do you how do you. jump over or how do. you you know El you know. excuse or not excuse isn't the word but.

how do. you unite miss the people that are the. agents who are just people that have a. job or whatever it is they're they're. they're doing their work to survive and. live whatever it is how do you get to. the Architects with whatever you feel is. uh is that a what what could be a shared. experience and get them to like sort of. dissolve the creation of the tri tribal. world I think it's it's you you asked a. great question you know you have people.

on here I guess that know you know or. think about those things and have the. ability to do something about I don't. think I. have the ability to do anything more. than something for myself mostly you. know it's just you do because you have. the ability to express yourself and. you're an example and a lot of times. when someone is a very reasonable. intelligent person like you and you. express yourself other people get. inspired to maybe reexamine the way. they're looking at things well that's. that's a nice hope I hope that maybe. that'll think happen I think that's.

maybe one of the only right back at you. then okay because part of our problem in. this country is that we're in. competition every two years every two. years you have midterms elections every. four years so we don't get a break no we. don't get a break we don't get a break. from these people no we don't get a. break we don't get a break from division. break we don't get a break from. propaganda we don't get a break from new. threats we don't get a break it's like. every day it's a new thing and um and it. keeps us completely in this uh constant. state of stress and and anxiety and also.

this fear of being overcome like your. side's going to. lose tonight. yeah we're going to lose the internet. suppos to be on watch or something yeah. it's uh very very stressful and it's not. healthy for human beings to be. constantly in this state of competition. and stress it's bad for and then on top. of that you have most people are. addicted to social media so you're. constantly getting in dated with the. worst [ __ ] things in the world all.

day long and you're freaking out it's. terrible for you it's [ __ ] terrible. for you I mean that footage made me cry. now you're going to make me cry okay no. it's but it's um it's true it's I. someone's got a there has to be uh some. sort of a new I don't know if it has to. be a club but you know there's got to be. some sort of new you know it used to be. music I think music played such a big. part of of whatever that movement was. whatever you call the peace movement or. the hippies or you know. whatever it was it was a it was an.

extraordinary moment in time and the. music was part of the part of the. experience and part of the. um it brought the message and it sort of. it crashed through everybody's brain you. know it wasn't there wasn't a side to it. it's like what were the soldiers. listening to in Vietnam Jimmy Hendrick. you know what you know we were all. listening to the same stuff no matter. where you were yeah no matter where you. were you were listening to same music no. matter what your politic thing was the.

music sort of told a. story and sort of said suggested a. possibility so and the music was so much. different than the music of the past. yeah and it was like you go from 1959 to. 1969 you're dealing with a completely. different dimension and it's because it. was all psychedelically inspired and. that was another thing that the Nicks. Administration did they passed that. sweeping schedule one psychedelics Act. made everything illegal and just through. water on the whole. movement and then everything changes.

then you have the 70s music starts. getting weird the 80s it completely. falls apart cars start looking like [ __ ]. people start dressing stupid now you're. talking now you're talking weird it's a. real language you know it's like. when I never tied at all to the that. sweeping thing but but when you revisit. that you realize how much harm that did. that that kind of um lawmaking but. let's all agree that the cars don't look. as good as they used to okay let's let's.

who's who are those people that say. they're the really good problem solvers. I see them every once in a while and. they go like how does he do it he said. well first I say what can we agree on. okay so we can agree that cars don't. look so good no more you know they look. good it used to be that every single. year every single car looked different. it looked the year before yes and that's. mindboggling nowadays to think about. that and even now with it the cars made. of I don't know plastic what are they.

made of yeah they're made of [ __ ]. they're made of nothing they're not made. of steel they did it with steel back. then right and now they're made with I. don't know some sort of carbon something. or other and you would think they would. be able to like I don't know what a 3D. printer is I have to. confess I have no idea what we actually. talked about it yesterday I have no idea. what biggest one's four feet long the. biggest one is 4T long yeah that's what. Elon was saying they're not so can you. make you of this you can't make anything. I don't think so maybe there's some now.

I mean if you have a car if you have a. fender bender there's like seven parts. that you have to replace now panels and. panels and panel but that's also because. they're better structurally to withand. impact they have these crumple layers. and they're designed in a way that makes. it safer for you they're a lot safer. than old cars and I [ __ ] love old. cars and the sound systems are better. let's face it but new cars look great. new cars are awesome there's a lot of. like really goodlook American cars a lot. of really goodlooking German cars what.

happened in the 1970s and the 1980s was. a drop off a significant drop off from. the' 60s the 60s cars were some of the. best looking cars of all time like a 65. Corvette one of the greatest looking. cars the world ever 62 cor oh those are. beautiful too model one the first one. generation one but like you know Camaros. and baracudas like they made beautiful. wildl looking cars back then and I think. a lot of that had to do with just the. the the way creativity was encouraged in.

the 1960s it was more free flowing the. music was completely radical and. different politics is radical and. different and that's why they passed. those laws they passed those laws to. stop the anti-war movement it was civil. rights movement and the anti put in. charge was a man who had absolutely no. qualifications we had no qualifications. to do any of it yeah yeah it's kind of a. it's a I've got a someone friend that's. been trying to get me.

to do a movie about it but the person. responsible for making all the laws was. someone who had absolutely no background. in any of the fields no knowledge. whatsoever just a total huster that got. himself out in front well they probably. had a mandate they gave him a mandate. this is what we're going to do this is. the plan we're going to lock up all. these hippies and lock I'll carry the. flag I'll carry the flag yeah whatever. it is you know I'll run up the hill. exactly yeah. well I. heard that Buick is going to make a car.

and I this could be wrong but I heard. they're going to make a car next year. that's not going to look like any car. ever it's going to be like a brand new. whatever the hell 25 or 26 Buick and. it's not going to look like the 24 or. five it's going to look like its own. individual thing that they're going to. try to. re to re to re to recommence the idea of. making a new car every year you didn't. hear this no like a completely new kind.

of model yeah like the idea that you. would make a car that look didn't look. like every I mean like you can look at a. car and you go like that's a Volvo but. that part of it looks like a Mercedes. that part of it looks like an Infiniti. that part of the car looks like you know. a Toyota that kind you know they're. they're it's like you've heard probably. the story about the what's that car. called the Ford that's got a animal name. Mustang Taurus Taurus now there's a. story now it could be be apocryphal that. the Ford Taurus you never heard this one.

I thought you were like this guy had all. piece of [ __ ] I don't care about. Tauruses well the Taurus yeah the Taurus. is like it's not the most beautiful car. in the world but it was a huge seller. for Ford they sold a lot of them and the. story is that these guys at. Ford designed a car and they. took the rear corner panel from this. automobile the the Fender from this the. back Fender from this the rear windows.

from this and just did a composite of. all these different cars and the and cu. the car was this car is [ __ ] and. we'll call it the tourus and they. presented it to Ford who went we love it. and then proceeded to sell hundreds of. thousands of them and that this is a. story like where where's your phone. calls here FY caller number one you. heard about this no one's ever heard. this story you've never heard this one. I've never heard that no that's. sense you can believe it if you look at. the cars that are built now that they.

are absolutely like look at that damn. Volvo it looks exactly like a three year. ago Mercedes or something like that they. just really just steal and Jamie pull up. 2024 Shelby Mustang Super. Snake so there's still better J Cars. roll it in here just check it check out. what this looks like there's cars that. they make today that are unique looking. and look badass I wish i' bought a. Shelby back when I first had a paycheck. cuz they're such beautiful cars that's.

look at that come on well that kind of. funny funny when I first look at it it. looks a little Chevy to me it does a. little bit it could be like a Camaro I. mean look at that that looks like Chevy. I mean that's a beautiful car though. right. well you know you could photograph. either of us from a certain angle no no. I've seen that one in real life that's a. beautiful car could be that's a. beautiful car that's better oh and it. sounds amazing but I'd hate to hit. anything with that thing in what way I. would hate to bump in anything it looks. like I'd have.

to for six weeks that's true let's see. can you bring up that picture there. what's what what's the rear look like oh. it's got a spoiler yeah come on I how do. you feel about spoilers [ __ ] badass. that thing looks awesome that looks. amazing well I think the original one is. like the super coolest car oh oh no. doubt I mean if you go back and look at. like pull up a a boss for 29 1969 Boss. 429 this to me is the Pinnacle of muscle.

card design is the Boss 429 like that is. justy. spectacular look at that well that's. pretty close well that's got that scoop. in the front but that's pretty close to. the bullet year right the bullet car 68. yeah bullet was 68 I actually have a. recreation of that I was watching it the. you know did you they found the original. bullet card did you know that I was. reading about that this week cuz I saw. it was on TV last week and I've watched. it aot a lot of. times that movie because you know I.

think Steve McQueen's pretty pretty damn. good but you when you watch the movie. it's it's obviously the Roaring through. San Francisco and all that sort of stuff. it's famous for and then there's the. ending where there's the sort of story. ends with kind of a flaming crash you. know it's kind of not really kind of an. ending in a way but but watching at this. particular. time it was all the moments in between. all that that really make the movie yes. all the quiet in between where he's in.

the grocery store he's the girl the. mailbox he's seeing these people and. these people and he has this very quiet. inner self that's dealing with people. very respectfully and and his is his. blood pressure only moves the needle. only starts to move when he gets with. the bad guy Chalmer who's obviously you. know a fraud of some sort and he's got. him like he see him like not just as a. an actor keeping his cool but as like a. cop keeping his cool with like a a. person he knows is trying to use.

him and that those those just watching. that part of the performance in that. part of the story was much more. interesting the first from I saw all. that as its own weave through it you. know yes that that the car stuff had. very little to do with what I was. getting from from the people the car. stuff was nothing and his boss was a. great actor Simon Oakland I think his. name is he was great as his boss he said. I'm going to hold this till Monday. morning you know that kind of guy and um.

there were some great acting in that. it's a really beautiful American movie. like that I'm so glad you brought that. up because it it's it's one of the. things that I love about that movie and. Lem man's another great Steven Queen. movie is that he had. these moments and you could do that in a. movie back then where no one was talking. for minutes and minutes at a time. there's a lot of quiet bullet a lot of. quiet amazing it's just you're taking in. the story but it's very compelling and.

sometimes there's not even any music. right like in lons the whole first part. of it there's no talking at all for. quite a while it's just like you're. getting the sounds and the feeling of. being this race car driver and he's. driving his 911 down this country road. and yeah and it's it's it it engrosses. you in a different way it it D it pulls. you into the story is that bullet where. he's writing what movie is he driving. like a dune buggy is that bullet too or.

is that no that's the other one the uh. one in Boston that's a pretty good movie. too which one's that oh come on they. remade it. um Crown Affair Thomas Crown Affair yeah. and obviously he's having time you know. it's like how about we shoot some stuff. in a dune buggy and basically they had. like a whole day yeah this yeah and he's. having a. time and meanwhile he's got Fay dunway. and they're going I hope that's fade. down away.

anyway roaring around and he could. really drive right he guy could drive. car really drive like you could really. flip one of these [ __ ] things if. you're driving like him you don't know. what you're doing. sure yeah he's going sideways she is uh. she is having the time of her life look. at that spinning it out in the water. with a movie star who doesn't even have. a seat belt on probably no they didn't. have seat bels back then Jesus Christ. well she might have a seat Bel she looks. like she's but that was cool he was like. the archetypal archetypal movie star he.

was a movie star like that that guy was. a movie star you know there was. something about him that was compelling. he lived his life in a sort of wild. Renegade way and drove race cars and he. was a a man's man and when you saw him. in a movie you believed it well I've. been watching um I've come to be. watching all the old cowboy shows on on. the on the satellite I watch all the old. cowboy shows and wanted din D or Alive. was always a super cool show and I've. been watching it just to say what the.

hell is he up to man he is just no one. was getting away with that no one was. doing what he was doing which was so. small and so slight he was really. preparing himself to be a movie actor. you know because his his performance is. is so controlled he's so in in his skin. you know and he's always got like a. piece of business to do he always had a. piece of business to do like something. to do like the way he like strapped on. his goofy saw off rifle and stuff it's.

not even you know you keep thinking it's. a saw off shotgun it's a saw off rifle. you know so just all his moves were very. little his face gave very very little. away he would pout do a half pout kind. of stuff and it's just fun to watch him. see how little he could do and get it. done get it across I like I like that. about him but he always had like he kind. of challenged himself to do something. physical like so he if he'd be talking.

to you he'd be he'd have just even that. even something like that to be like you. know come in here you know he would just. the way he did it was a guy who had a. real natural way with his body it was. fun yeah well he would just draw you in. in in all of his films and just it's. like in a way that was it was just. different it's like it was a different. presence on screen there's that guy. sought off rifle see it's a sought off. it's not a shotgun it's a rifle.

huh he had see that little stick he's. got he's got it so it locks in and then. swings back so he could actually if he. wish. to you better hope you better not wish. to against you two he could just sort of. swivel it and fire while it's still. attached to his uh his waistband I never. saw this show I didn't even know you. never saw this show I didn't know it. existed until right now what kind of a. citizen are you I I'm a little younger. that's all it is this is a that's all it. is well you can find this there's these. new Cowboy shows uh channels there's you. can there's like four.

channels uh I have Direct TV and and so. you can go and watch that God that's a. famous guy that's oh god oh who's that. oh oh that's killing me I know who this. guy. is well I don't know who he is but I. recognize help me somebody who's that. guy Jamie will find it the. um anyway there's a few channels there's. one called. INSP there's also the cow boy Channel. there's also Channel 364 304 323 is this.

81 Direct TV what is Direct TV and. they're all and you can and I just go. through going like what do I got to find. so I can see The. Riflemen that also a rifle guy but he. had a full length rifle and that was. Chuck Connors who once upon a time was a. Chicago Cub he was a baseball player oh. really yes and allegedly did some art. films but also he was good too Chuck. Connors was good. um The Lone Ranger oh yeah sure and that.

was uh God come on why can't I not. remember his name but there were some. Lone Rangers The Lone Ranger came on and. then the guy I didn't realize it because. there's some Lone Rangers where it's not. our Lone Ranger being the Lone Ranger. and who wasn't as good as our Lone. Ranger and then our Lone Ranger comes. back and it turns out I finally figured. out that he he sort of went on strike he. said he wanted a contract raised after. the first season or something and they. like said no they went ahead and made a. season with this other guy and people.

went when you going to kill off the Lone. Ranger you. know no offense to that Man's family I'm. sure it paid for somebody's college. but oh come on I almost had it the guy's. name yeah yeah yeah Jamie will find. it Jamie you got a lot on your plate I. switched over to The Lone Ranger I was. looking at people that were listed here. I'll give you this one de or there's a. few people listed here I actually saw. him some place he came to like one of. these names Michael Landon war war notes.

I was looking definitely not Coburn no. it's none of those guys Lan Chen's. misspelled but it's not those guys C's. in there twice uh Lone Ranger. here one of these guys maybe no all. right I'll try see it started on radio. first that's what you're getting you're. you're pulling up radio that's how far. back you're going Clayton Moore Clayton. Moore thank you I saw Clayton Moore he. came to Jewel food store near us the. Lone Ranger was going to appear but he.

was not allowed to wear the mask for. like contract whatever the hell so there. he was and I'm. like Mom that's not the Lone Ranger you. know whatever the hell it was but it was. funny to see Clayton more without a mask. on imagine a contract saying you can't. do personal well no it was like he was. the Lone Ranger was copyrighted you know. 9 days from Sundays you know so he could. go and be ride on an elephant I think I. may have seen him riding on an elephant. in a parade once but also without the. mask.

on but we I should talk about movies cuz. I'm supposed to be talking about movies. since we we started talking about. movies um tell me about your movie um. I'm I got two movies I have three movies. I'll work backwards from the one which. is least which is farthest away I did. one with Wes Anderson called The. Phoenician something that's the title. you know I'm sorry Wes the phoen you. know what it isan scheme The Phoenician. scheme and um I I have a lot of trouble.

with names nowadays but the guy who did. the set design can you figure that out. this guy is the most famous he's the. best there is now these are the most. beautiful sets I've ever seen in any. movie um come on it's coming I'm sorry. everybody but I just haven't been. getting enough sleep no worries anyway. the power that's a great movie that we. shot that in Berlin and there's great. people in it it's got uh. uh I want to say tshir maoni but it's.

not it's the guy who played CH come. on don't come on help me out here all. right you you look it up Jamie you get. back to us with this is anyway that. movie's coming in a. bit who Bonito yeah yeah Bonito is. really good he's really good and he's. really cool and Michael Sarah. right is he the third did you say bonio. Boro yeah I said Bonito you said B you. said tomato great fear and lothing as.

well he was awesome in that he's great. he's he he's are we you get on good um. and then the daughter whose name is of. of Kate Winslet who is really wonderful. so the three of them are extraordinary. in the movie together and her name is. like cupid or Eve or something it's. crazy what's it about I have no idea mia. huh what's her name Mia thank you see I. told you Cupid something Mia uh I have.

no idea what it's about you're you're. going to have to pay the money there she. is right there tale of Espionage. followed a strange father daughter. relationship with a family business all. right yeah William's got a good part but. it's really those keep going keep going. Benedict cumberbach yeah they're all. fine Michael Sarah Michael Sarah is huge. in it he's fantastic yeah he's a really. good guy Michael Sarah Bono and Mia are. the really the muscl they're. anyway that's going to be really good. people are all his movies.

are like they are they're all great and. that one's going to be very good then. was going to be funny. too um then I made a movie called The. friend um which stars uh uh what's her. name Naomi Watts and a dog there's a. huge dog are you a dog guy I love dogs. okay so there's a. massive really big dog I mean it's just. it's pretty much as big there it is. there's Naomi and there's the dog the.

dog is is that is that big see how big. it is it's [ __ ] huge yeah that's the. words for it yeah that's a great dane uh. and it's an EXT it's an amazing dog and. the script is great it's written by it's. from a book written by a woman named. sigd. Nunes and can you pop up on the titles. there maybe uh what know the other thing. yeah these guys directed it these guys. Scott McGee and David seagull and they. wrote the. script from this book and it's a great.

script nobody can hear you over there. unfortunately H nobody can hear you over. there we're gonna have to come back. Scott Scott McGee and David seagull. wrote the script and directed it and. they're great I love those guys they've. made a few good movies and this one's. really good and this sigar Nunes is a. kind of a big deal author people know. who she is that read lots of book and. what is the friend what is it about the. friend well yeah there there you go so. that's the question well that's sort of. the puzzle a little bit of the puzzle of.

it so who is the friend is the friend. the friend or is the friend the dog you. know the dog is represents something you. know so oh okay it's a little deeper. than a lot of the ones we we get to but. it's it's really good it's really good I. like it it's been to film festivals and. people you know laugh and cry and the. whole thing yeah how do you pick things. to do now like you've you've done so. much you've you've had this insane. career tell you that but let me finish. the last one because today now is your. show live no no it comes out tomorrow.

dead tomorrow okay so this I so that's. why I want to ask because this movie the. third movie opens today which is. yesterday and it's called Riff Raff and. this is a movie that you have to see you. have to see this this is really. something this is a movie you should. take 10 of your friends too and go see. Riff Raff it will be I guarantee you. this one's a party tell me what it is um. well there's a trailer for it up there.

see there's Let's Play the trailer put. put the headphones on we'll play the. trailer I wasn't there you go slap some. headphones on oh no slim gems past two. hours you've been passing gas like a. very sick infant I got to breathe all. day sorry Ley I had a lot of coffee okay. sorry and then you use my. name Jesus Christ. Lonnie said m you catch our names by any. chance yeah he called you Lefty and you.

called him. Lonnie well I overreacted. okay son we got to talk about Lefty what. did you. [Music]. do you killed his son they're going to. kill. us what are you doing I get horny when. I'm scared married oh G it's just us in. the shitty Wildlife you.

know this is our son we're too young to. be. grandparents all because your son. couldn't pull out in time we've got. house. kisss I would categorize these as a must. kill and what are we B oh my God can I. get you anything I'd sell my left hit. for an Advil and a cup of coffee you you. said.

what who was first there was this food. incident Rocco put pubes in my wanton. sup if it's okay I would just really. like to torture him a little bit if it's. okay shouldn't have done that. Rocco yeah knock yourself out oh my God. are we all going to. die you don't have all night. wait for me before you two start hitting. each.

other you once you start killing it it. sort of becomes your de facto solution. for every problem. what get off of me I'm not going to come. I'm not going to Ruth what's a shame. we're going to put something that hard. to. waste huh. that looks fun uh yeah.

well yeah that's they gave you too much. as far as I'm concerned but um they. always do though right I don't know. sometime not always not always it's but. it's it's common it's kind of nicer to. see as a surprise so oh should we not. have seen the trailer it's okay I mean. what are you going to do but it's some. people will think I am I must see that. but I guarantee you this is movie is. really really funny I love a movie where. I don't get to see the trailer do idea. you could say yeah you could not show. the trailer that would be okay they had.

there was one I saw one that was like. just the first part of that and then. this they just saw add this and I was. hoping that was what it was but this. kind of makes it seem like a little. bit P putan you know it's just a little. bit too much stuff and it you know a. little bit too much stuff for Me Maybe. maybe let's think about it but anyway. it's good and. yeah so Jennifer kulage has got some. unbelievable things to say in the movie.

She's got some amazing things to say and. Ed Harris is really really good in the. movie Pete Davidson who I had no idea. about we we were Sidekicks in the movie. and we had a very good time did some. good stuff there LS Pullman who's Bill. Pullman's son is really good I mean and. emanuela she's got out Italian Pini like. that she's just. wonderful and beautiful and Gabby Union.

I call her Gabby Gabriel Union and Miles. who last name I can't remember because I. just want to call him Miles Davis but. that little kid in. there uh he's he has a he plays the. voice. of the electric Junior bunny show or. something like that on on Nickelodeon or. something like that he does like weird. cartoon voices oh yeah so if you watch a. lot of Nickelodean cartoons don't. anymore my kids are teenagers now oh. really I used to I used to I used to I.

can tell you all about niow Kyan oh see. I don't know that one I guess I I guess. SpongeBob my brother plays the The. Flying Dutchman really on SpongeBob oh. wow so I watched a lot of that but. that's about it I don't know I'm way. behind how do you decide uh what. projects to pick it's really just what. uh well there are certain people like um. like with people that I've worked with. before there's some like Wes Anderson is.

one and Jim jish and Sophia copal are. others and those three people call and. say I got something I say I just say. okay when you know that's because I know. I I know that. they're I know they know what I can do. and they know they they look out for me. and they treat people well I love them. as people and I love them as artists so. that's just a thing. but the other ones are more like um are.

like. uh uh you have to read the script. because people you know the script is. pretty much if the script's not. there I mean you know I can always help. improve a script but if the basic thing. isn't there it's like I I was scratching. at one the other day and I'm writing I'm. going what the hell am I doing this for. this is just terrible every every page. is like so but if it's not good and. usually um you know you know in like. five pages you know whether you're not.

to even continue reading the script at. all you know you know so so a lot of. it's based on relationships and people. that you trust in only those are very. few there's only very few people that I. have those kinds of relationships with. and I've done like multiple jobs with. them and they kill every time they're. good they're really good so when they. call it's like I don't you don't have to. waste my time telling me the story just. send me the thing you know right you. don't have to waste any time I'm in you. can count on me you know so that's it I.

love that yeah I do too it's it's God. that's such great feeling when you trust. someone that much and you're so. enthusiastic about working with them. yeah it means like great and you know. like people make the living the making. of a movie part of their living you know. like Wes is probably the the most. extreme example in that like we all live. in a quazi dormatory you know we take. over a small hotel in some small in some. City and all the actors and like the key.

Crew live in the hotel and you come down. for breakfast in the morning and people. pad down in their slippers and their. jammies and they have coffee and stuff. and they look at the newspaper and say. what are we doing today and then they. like pad back up the stairs and get on. their clothes and they go to work it's. cool it's really nice it really is like. what you always thought it would be like. in the old days like what if we all. lived in a dorm and we were just being. funny all day you know like that yeah. what was it like working on. kingpen well those guys um have more fun.

making movies than anyone they really. make it fun like P I remember like in. between shots on. Kingpin we'd be on the side of a road. somewhere and it would be like. everybody's got to pick up a rock and we. got to throw it at. that telephone pole you know who's going. to hit the telephone pole with a rock so. we would sit there and like I don't know. a dollar $10 $100 whatever it was we're. throwing and someone's got to hit the.

rock you know and then people like pull. out cash and pay because it's just like. we just got to keep this thing going you. know we're not going to let the energy. of this thing drop just fun keep the fun. rolling fun yeah and just creativity and. always being loose and always being. physical always being you know connected. attached you know not just attached but. connected and and entertaining and. entertaining each other you know really. making this fun God damn it we are going. to have fun or else you know if you.

don't have fun making a comedy you've. just made a bad movie that's not funny. yeah well it comes off in the film the. film is so [ __ ] funny it's so good. and it's one of those films like if you. tried making that today it would be an. an an uphill trudge well you know and. that's like one of those things um they. had a moment on Saturday Night Live an. in memorium thing they said oh someone I. was there the week of the thing they. said yeah so and so is working on the in. memorium and I'm thinking who's gone.

which which reminds me um who's gone you. know and uh no it's not it's not who's. passed away it's what we can't do. anymore to be funny you know so like all. these kinds of jokes and so it was just. a whole clip I didn't even see it but I. just I saw a little bit of it being. assembled but it could be 40 minutes. long you know just all the sketches that. you people would you would get like. you know internet you know responses. like we're we're going to burn down the.

city of New York it could be hours long. today yeah hours long yeah I'm short. with 45 but it's but some of the. funniest things ever done you know like. head wound Harry you know which was one. that not many people think about but how. you know like somebody would object to a. dog eating a brain wound you know like. licking like the blood coming out of. someone skeletal one you. know but someone told me on the way here. a friend of mine a musician named Mike. Zito who said he listens to your show he.

said that you knew um Phil Hartman yeah. very well what did you do with Phil. Hartman news radio was a sitcom we did. together okay I didn't really watch much. in news radio but it was uh what were. you doing 4 to 99 I played the um sort. of like the maintenance guy in this. radio station and Phil was the like the. lead anchor and yeah and did you resent. him because you were doing maintenance. and he was the lead anchor no what do. you mean no I'm just joking um so and. where was was it on CBS orc NBC of.

course and he was the news anchor well. he's got that crazy voice right oh he. was great yeah he was uh we became. really good friends he was wonderful guy. um we actually played one of his Clips. the other day we had to take it out of. the show but it was a a clip from SNL. that you could never play today about a. doctor who decided that every child was. female and he had to do operations on. all of. them and we were like holy [ __ ] holy. [ __ ] and it's like you know 90% of his.

his births involved in operation it turn. turned into a girl they were all girls. that's funny it was insane he was great. yeah he was really good he was I worked. with him I mean I did s IUS when he was. there but he was in the movie we made. called quick change and he. was like sterling silver it was like. every single take was just like like. perfect and it was so much fun and you. just go Phil that was so great and go.

like he was so kind of modestly proud of. like yeah I I felt pretty good about. that too yeah it was really nice he had. real real modesty yes he did well he was. a guy who made it late in his career you. know late in his life so he was before. he was an artist we have one of his. albums out there um in the uh the other. room he was a musician no an artist. artist well he was a musician as well he. did music musician us one of his albums. I I I was looking at vinyl today so.

that's why it went into my head it was a. cover of a of an album that he drew oh. yeah he was an illustrator he was. brilliant like really really good I'd. love to see that and then he was on. peewee's. Playhouse yeah may he rest in peace that. guy in peace that guy was [ __ ] great. too and and the lady I didn't really. watch a lot of peewee's playhouse but he. was a funny guy that guy and um his lady. sidekick died this week or something. lady's high kick I don't know on. peewee's I'm not up to date on anything.

but um L Stewart yeah who L Stewart her. name. yeah all right Lin Murray Stewart L. Stewart ly Marie see I didn't oh I guess. I'd recognize her if her face were biger. head so I think Phil because of the fact. that he made it late in life like he was. just so happy to be perspective yeah. exactly he had I mean I think he was.

like 37 or something when he got. SNL you know so it's like that's the. point where a lot of people start. thinking hey this is never going to. happen for. me and then he was you know he was a. hero I mean he he he did he could do a. lot of things he had a lot of chops he. had a great voice. and he could play straight and um you. know. playing doing comedy's the ability to. play straight and he could really do.

it he could really do it yeah well I. missed that guy he was good he was a. good. guy uh yeah I missed him terribly that. was a that was a crazy one because I. knew his I knew the whole family I knew. the wife I knew the the whole situation. he had tried to divorce her a few times. tried to leave a few times it always. went back. and yeah and that's also the guy he. would go back and keep trying to make. things work yeah yeah I mean he was uh.

very unusual guy and what a [ __ ]. professional like he' make me feel like. I wasn't doing enough like he had have. like all of his scripts would have tabs. for all the scenes that he was in and. then he' have notes underneath each. thing and everything would be organized. he had a three- ring binder he would put. the script in well that's going too far. who would whole punch the moment he got. the script put it in the three ring. binder oh yeah no he see I didn't have. that much face in the script so I knew. they were going to change a lot from. Wednesday to Friday. if it was a if it was a big scene I knew. they would rewrite it the next two days.

I didn't try I didn't cuz it's hard to. unlearn yes so I would not learn yeah. cuz if unlearning is really hard yeah. like if you have a sketch that's this. long and all of a sudden it's this long. you got problems have you ever met Dave. Foley I think so he was one of the guys. from yeah I saw him he he goes out with. my brother. Joel he and he sings they they do like a. Improv thing called Whose Line Is It. Anyway so I never I only met him. recently I met him recently I finally.

saw my brother's show that he goes out. with Who's Line Is It Anyway right with. Greg PRS and all those guys and they and. they kill yeah I mean there there's you. know I knew there I knew they were going. to kill CU I know how good my brother is. who's an improviser he can you know if. you if you get good at it and my brother. is really good at far better than I uh I. ever was or would could hope to be um. cuz he's really kept at it and so he. really goes and goes hard at it um he's.

really good at I knew they would kill I. didn't realize how much fun the show. would be from an audience perspective. like they drag a lot of people up on the. stage and I think well that can go any. way at all yeah and they managed to get. I mean the show I saw they had people in. the audience that probably should have. been hired they were that funny but the. there's something about the the. uncertainty of bringing up someone from. the audience that raises the energy. level and the expectation and the.

possibility yeah and the Crowd Goes. Crazy for it and the and the actors the. performers go crazy too because it's. like God damn they just killed us they. just came up here and murdered us yeah. and and that's where the that's where. the real fun is so they they're they. they are enjoying themselves well it's a. tight show they've been doing that show. for so long like their muscles are like. very developed you know their comedy. improvisation muscles they're just so. sharp when you do a show like that on. the road constantly like you develop a. sort of feel for how to improvise and.

how things can go and well you're. fearless and uh you know you're. certainly anyone that's ever been in. that racket knows you can't be afraid of. dying right so if you're not afraid of. dying let's go you here we go and. anything and there's a handful of you so. it's it's like the Magnificent Seven if. I don't kill you he will right right. right so so if I don't kill you he will. yeah so it's it's fun to watch it was. really fun to watch finally see it live. I'd only seen it on television to see.

the live show was cool it's I recommend. it to they they're coming to a town near. you if you're Liv it's a great show it's. a great show you definitely go see it if. they're coming to you Dave Dave Foley. who was on Kids in the Hall was uh he. was also on news radio oh okay he played. uh the manager of the station who was in. charge. of Steven root uh from Office base and a. million other things. uh Andy Dick. um Mora Tierney Vicky Lewis Candy.

Alexander I I know a lot of those people. yeah yeah so that was the show well that. was so how it ran five years yeah well. around four years and then Phil got. killed and then that's what ended it. John Lovitz uh who was a good friend of. his to take it over took his place well. not take it over necessarily it was a. real Ensemble I mean Dave was really. like the main star Dave Foley was but it. was um it just you know for whatever. reason the John I I think the John. Lovitz ones were really funny they were. really good but it was just it's just.

different funny it was just the end of. the line the show was over and it got. canceled after the fifth year yeah. there's something about the it was like. that was sat life the fifth year is like. wait a second high school is only five. years why why should why should this. show be any five years is a long time. it's a long time I know it's amazing to. think we thought like five years this is. it we're done goodbye everybody that was. 45 years. ago who the hell thought that would. happen is the is it the longest running. show ever on. television I think the Today's Show is.

the longest running show oh is it really. well interesting I had to guess. certainly the longest running show. that's actually entertaining I mean. SNL's been around for so long don't tell. Al Roker that. buddy can I take a break for a second. take a Le I'll be right back take a leak. be right back you're in charge St up. this table I'll do a little bit seeing a. bit you have a very you have so much. cool stuff on the wallsart do you do. shows where you walk around show all the. stuff no no really no no no no no I just. it's personal it's just for us for us.

and the guests well there is a. photograph in the in the men's room I. didn't which one check uh it's Presley. and it looks like it's a mug shot it's a. fake mug shot so what it is is he went. to the White House and he met okay the. gun thing where he gives Nixon he gives. him a revolver he gives him a something. automatic pistol yeah what did he give. him and Nixon gives him a a drug badge. to be a drug. you don't know that part that's right I. forgot about that part he gave Presley a.

a gun badge to Presley would talk [ __ ]. about all these guys who are doing drugs. meanwhile he was high as [ __ ] well he. was he was in pain you know yes he was. in pain he had physical pain he had what. was the physical pain what was wrong. with him I think he did the splits a lot. of times you know like Chevy's you know. Chevy HT himself falling you know oh. yeah people have pain I the Pres he had. I don't know I don't remember all the. fact but Presley had physical. pain and um a keep I don't know what his.

back or something like this sacchar. iliac or whatever the hell and they got. him hooked and so he had like. painkillers right but it's just. hilarious that he was the drug guy it is. hilarious yeah it's it's it's like good. good fun it's like it's like a great. American story and like yeah you you. just see the picture there's a. photograph that exists of Nixon handing. him the badge and I you know you can. laugh looking at it going right that's. exactly right yeah. but but but uh yeah there it is and.

there's the damn badge Special. Assistant Special. Assistant you know what I did see the. other night um did you ever see Frost. and Nixon no it's a uh it's a movie that. was made and back in the day after. Watergate is his name David Frost he was. a British interviewer cat and um he. staged he he had this idea to he was.

trying to like he sort of lost his place. in the universe of England anyway or the. world and he came up with this idea. somehow to to if he could somehow get an. interview with Richard. Nixon and it's a pretty well-made movie. it's very well-made movie about it and. they paint Frost pretty much as like. maybe what he was like sort of what the. perception my perception is kind of what. he was like not a perfect person but uh.

certainly not uh you know but certainly. got some juice certainly has some some. sort of idea of some something going on. I that sounds very small but uh he he. was look complicated that's the the. cheating word and Nixon too and I just. wanted to say the Frank Lela who I only. know from like doing he kind of like a. Broadway guy and he did did some horror. movies he's really good as Nixon very. very uh very uh very good as Nixon and.

it's just a really well-made movie and I. was I was up in New York and I thought. you know I'm G to find Frank lella there. it is right there and tell him so. there's the guy who I can't don't know. what this man's name is who plays R Us I. can't recall anything but he's good and. there's Lela playing Nixon and lanella. is really good as Nixon and Nixon's not. easy to do does he do the voice well he. does them well and you know when you try. too hard let me hear those your personal. lawyer came to Washington there you go.

yeah you [ __ ] good it's good yeah. he's really good so I never got around. to finding out who where Franklin Joel. lived in New York or calling him up but. maybe someone who knows him listens to. your show will say hey Frank you got a. shout out today in Texas that guy's. great he was great as Dracula too yeah. that whole nixed Watergate story uh I I. used to think about it very differently. until uh Tucker Carlson broke it down. for me Bob Woodward was an intelligence. agent and the first time he ever gets a.

job as a journalist he's covering. Watergate the FB all the people that. were involved in the break-in FBI people. like it was it was a complete. intelligence operation Nixon definitely. did the things they accused him of but. the whole thing was sort of coordinated. by the intelligence agents to get Nixon. out of office apparently with the story. was according to I can play you the. Tucker thing if you'd like to see it but. apparently with the. it sounds crazy well it sounds but the. story was that Nixon was digging into.

who killed. JFK one of the one of the things that. they wanted to set up when he was. running for president is to make sure. that Gerald Ford was his Vice President. Gerald Ford was also on the warrant. commission that they were he was digging. into it and they wanted to remove him. from office they set this up they framed. him he did it they got him out of office. Gerald Ford gets in okay I got a shorter. version okay okay I don't I you're going. to take me down to the Kennedy Road and. I don't you know where are we going.

there with that one I got Richard bser. tapes I can play for you oh I'm a fan of. beler I met Belzer B Belzer and I talked. UFOs the new guy is gonna the renew guy. is going to bring out all the all the. warrant commission stuff supposedly. release all this stuff supposed to yeah. allegedly but my question is what the. [ __ ] is going to be in there call Un. allegedly I like that it's not going to. be hey this guy did it here it is no. here's the way I see Bob Woodward. story see you said you I don't know what. did you say first about Nixon you about.

your way of looking at Nixon the way I. look at Nixon and part of it is seeing. this I like this way that I love the way. Lelo did this I thought it was really. well done and and and made a character. of him you know a person of him. um but to. me. uh I feel here's what I feel about Nixon. is like you know he was hard to care for. he ran against JFK who was everybody's.

you know my hero and my father actually. pushed me into John of Kennedy in in. 1960 you know just pushed me into the. crowd and just pushed me up so bounc up. against him you know now i' now I'd have. been wrestled to the ground but back. then you could do that anyway. uh I you know I felt like Nixon was you. know in knowing Hunter and knowing all. of the history of Nixon and whatever. Nixon wasn't my guy oh agreed he was not.

my guy no I'm not defending Nixon in any. way shape or form in fact I talked about. Nixon before that I think he's the. problem with the whole psychedelics drug. legal illegalization act so so but. however when I read wired the book. written by what's his name Woodward. about Belushi I read like five pages of. wired and I went oh my. God they fra. Nixon like all of a sudden I went oh my. God if this is what he writes about my.

friend that I've known you know for you. know half of my adult life yeah which is. completely inaccurate talking to like. the people of the Outer Outer Circle. getting the story what the hell did they. could they have done to. Nixon I just felt like if he did this to. my friend like this and I I acknowledge. I only read five pages but the five. pages I read you know made me want to. like Set Fire to the whole thing j those. five pages I want if they if he did this.

to Belushi what he did in nion is. probably soiled for me too I can't I. can't take it and I know you say well. you got have two sources and everything. like that but the two sources that he. had if he had them for the wired book. were so far outside the Inner Circle. that it was it was criminal cruel and. the reasoning for it is that the most. famous person ever to come from Wheaten. Illinois is John.

Belushi the second most famous person to. come from Wheaten Illinois is Harold red. gra the football player and the third. most famous person to come from Wheaten. Illinois is Bob Woodward. really wow so there's all my controversy. for today that's all I got I I got a. bone about that one you know I got a. bone for Woodward ever since I read that. once you see it from something that you.

know you know once you see propaganda or. [ __ ] from someone that you know and. you see a distorted perception it it. really it opens your eyes to the fact. that a lot of the things you read are. horeshit I mean you like Belushi made. whole people's careers possible he made. people's careers possible mine would be. one of them. all all the people that he dragged to. New York he went to New York first he. broke into New York he took over New.

York and he dragged all all of us from. the Second City you know to New York. he's the one that got everyone there and. and there are musicians and lots of them. that will thank Belushi for the creation. of you know the revivification of the. Blues and for like the fact that there's. like a House of Blues chain that Blues. players can go and play and they're all. these venues that wouldn't have existed. without Belushi yeah you know he did a. lot of things for people he did a lot of.

there's a lot of people that slept on. John Belushi's couch there's a lot of PE. people that stayed for free at his house. until they made it New York and I'm one. and and any and any you know you know he. died in an unfortunate way but the man. when he was he was the still the best. Stage actor I ever saw he was absolutely. magnetic you couldn't take your eyes off. him. and he did a lot of wonderful things for. each other he was a short hitter guy. could only drink like four beers and he. was drunk so the idea that he died of an.

overdose is hilarious like that's what. my brother said he said what do you have. four beers you know he's John's dead. what do you have four beers CU he was. not really much of a drinker but but it. was drugs right was it speedball it was. a speedball yeah what was and it was. this I. believe my knowledge was like the first. speedball he ever had Jesus Christ. so what was the Woodward interpretation. what was his version oh it was just he. was just he was talking to people like.

wait a minute you're telling me that. that guy over there that guy who's that. far away from the center of things is. telling you the facts about John balushi. that guy we the [ __ ] over there is. telling you who John balushi is I like. wait a minute and he didn't contact any. of you guys oh I didn't I didn't want to. have anything to do with it I would I. would have nothing to do with it I. didn't like the and it smelled funny. from day one you know and and uh you. know Judy wanted people to talk I was. like.

sorry I know where this is going and it. went exactly where I thought it was. going even worse than where I thought it. was going even just the title alone you. know it was just it was cold so it's. just exploitation of his death you know. I I you would have to hold me down and. burn my feet to make me read more of it. so I couldn't say that it's like a of. his death but you know guys that write. books come up with you know Bob. Woodward's got a new title every 45.

minutes for another book you. know so you. know. um you it's a very disturbing thing when. it's just tough you know it's like and. when like so what do you you know that's. he like he really in those five pages I. read he tore down my friend with you. know I didn't see any there was no. compensation there was no balance in the. in the five I read and maybe maybe I was. unlucky.

but certainly if if that much was to me. was disturbingly ugly and. like irresponsible to report and then I. I I can't imagine that I got so that I. only found pip. yeah um you know and I'm sure he's done. wber does other things I've seen him on. TV and he can be smart and everything. but. you know he's going to have to answer. for that sometime for something you know.

I think yeah you know it's just like you. don't get a free ride for not with my. friend no well you can get away with. things a lot more back then when he. wrote that book as well you know so. there's no other venues for people to. express themselves back then it was like. he writes the book he does the. interviews for the book this is the. narrative yeah and Bob Woodward like one. of the squarest guys in the world gets. to tell the story of what it was like to. live in in New York City in the 70s yeah.

really in the late 70s and ' 80s like. like he knew was the story was come on. yeah that must have been a magical time. it was cool it was really fun you know. it was a smaller City in a funny way um. there was a lot more. freedom uh and it was when I got there. that you know the town was broke you. know you know it had. this town was falling apart and you know. the Subways were rough. and you know people you know to me it.

was exciting I didn't what the hell I. know I came from Illinois from Chicago. from the suburbs of of the city in. Chicago Chicago was pretty it was a city. and and and and some it had its own. hazards you know there was some more. hazard in where I lived in Chicago was. more dangerous than where I lived in in. in New York ever but but the city was. you know the found the economic part of. it and the infrastructure was you know. like the Subways were you know people.

complain about the Subways no I was like. wait a second these Subways are air. conditioned and the windows close those. windows those the windows were open. summer and winter and you either froze. or you had like metal shaving dust. flying through in the summer with no. heat with no air conditioning and you. know if it's 97 degrees out it's even. hotter inside the crowded subway car you. know so that was also back when Time. Square was Time Square and it was cool.

yeah Time Square was it's just as weird. now but it's just a different weird they. didn't they sort of tried to sanitize it. you know and it's it's kind of stupid I. mean now there's a lot more lights and. everything there's more signs but the. signs were always cool when they were. neon they were cool yeah now there're. just these glow lights and they just. keep moving and dancing and you know. it's you know people with like vision. problems shouldn't be out and people you. know who are the people that are. supposed to watch out for strobe lights. yeah epileptics yeah epileptics can't. walk through Times Square and 42nd.

Street. is it's blah it's like dull you know. back then it was like wow yeah it's a. giant Applebees yeah it's a giant. Applebees with huge ads giant LCD ads. but it was it was cool back then you. could see stuff there was real stuff to. see not that there's it's it's still. real but it's just a different real. there's a lot more it's a whole. International world now which it wasn't. back then back then it was just. like the s Street survivors of the city.

at the very you know the physical center. of it. and you saw some amazing things there. and and it was alive certainly alive now. there's you know you're crashing. into not exactly wtown or not exactly. like bridesmaid parties but like you. know there's people with flags and. people dragging people around stuff well. always a lot there's a lot to see. there's still a lot to see it's still. it's still New York City New York but.

back. then having that experience being in. that wild New York of the 1970s and then. getting on SNL how old were. you 26. wow that had have been a [ __ ] bizarre. experience yes it was uh it was a great. experience for. sure uh and you. know you saw you. know you know your life just changed.

dramatically from being you know unable. to barely able to pay your rent. or afford you know car a telephone. anything like that you know um. to having a credit card like that was a. big thing you know credit card and a. credit card and um you know we had the. because they wanted to wanted it safe we. had this sort of uh cab account with a. thing called skulls Angels there was a.

sort of company within the Yellow Cab. compan called skulls angels and you. could call them and they would pick you. up anywhere in the city and take you. wherever and it was just you just signed. your name you didn't have to have any. money and I had a credit. card and that account and that's all and. I just went lived for a couple of years. like that you just basically all you. were doing was going to work. and going to sleep and going and then in. between you when the in the when you'd. have 12 or 15 hours where you didn't.

have to do anything you go like okay. let's go you know then then you go like. you go like anything could happen. anything could happen and you could go. anywhere in the city and you sort of had. a sort of. a thumb print of okay you could go into. any place and people be like come on in. you know and uh you got to you know. really. you. know I. mean I probably could have done you know.

gotten more out of it but I certainly. got got a lot I put a lot into it you. know I got a lot an amazing kind of. uh education you know I got amazing. education but I guess that gets back to. sort of I you know I got to put my. education to use is what I should say I. mean in this in this kind of new. challenging environment I got to put. what my education had to that point had. been to to use what was the adjustment. like going from being broke to all of a.

sudden having money being famous lived. in New York City trying to make sense of. this new reality that you live in well. the I'll try to do them in order well. going being broke was oh I should tell. you I'm here in Austin Texas this is. this is a William marray golf shirt I. brought I brought you somehow got. involved with these clothes the clothes. got involved with me and and that that's. me that is I and that person right there.

and I I brought you a pair of shorts oh. thank you I also brought licorice which. you don't. want so I I don't know what to make you. trying to pass out licorice um. anyway so anyway the shorts are very. you're not too chubby but the shorts are. are very. forgiving um they actually r I've been. traveling well they're yeah they're kind. of go so are you gray are you a gray guy. I wear gray yeah sure I wear that that's. what I thought I thought you'd be a gray.

guy those are for you thank you very. much they've got my name on them so if. they get lost they'll be returned to me. nice yeah thank you very much I'm. excited and wait I got your. shirt I thought you might like this. shirt because this this kind of has the. range of possibility on it oh yeah it. has a lots of that kind of has a sort of. a studious look for you there's a lot. going on that there's a lot going on. thank there you go there you go thank. you very much yeah you're welcome I had.

I have long pants too if you want long. pants but I think you're more of a short. good yeah I'm good thank you though. Jam's a gigantic golfer oh yeah are you. a long how you're tall how tall are you. 61 61 well it's not that tall let's see. so you could so you so we're the same. sort of and so you like white or mean. blue sure or black those are shorts. hold on are you a shorts guy or a long. pants guy I like it all it's usually hot. in Texas you love it huh it's hot out.

here to play golf in Texas it's hot. Texas gets hot and you're playing golf. usually I bet well but you can play all. year here how how chubby are you I'm. not I don't think at. least okay well the pants are pretty. good well here's the you want the shorts. yeah give him the shorts these are black. nice and that's the Murray Tartan right. there that's the family tartan there. there you go forget from your family. seal huh that The Tartan is a special to. your family yeah it's the Murray Tartan. yeah really yeah nice yeah okay and then.

so here and then so you want a. shirt sure let's see I I'm actually show. off this shirt this is a shirt cuz my. sort of brother has something to do with. this one this has got like all this. stuff from Chicago on it oh nice it's. got I haven't even looked at this yet. guitars well there's guitars like a. pizza place sort of I don't know why. there there's tambourines and stuff on. it I have no idea but and there's always. a glass of beer for some reason is a. drum but there's a bunch of references.

to people we know and things we did in. Chicago and I see there's like the names. of some character or movie I played and. then there's SLO place that's my friend. Jeff sluman who's a golfer I think. you're going to like this shirt here. Jamie how's that for you oh that's. perfect that's Jamie yeah okay what. color pants did I throw at you well I. got some black shorts over here perfect. black shorts dark blue shirt you're in. can pull that off there you go way to go. high for that one thanks when you stomp. Tony henchcliffe in this inevitable. match yeah let's go you'll wear that be.

perfect there's that how long you been. golfing for well the question is how. long was I have I been cting for so I. started catting um when I was very young. my my our eldest brother Edward started. catting so catty Shack must have been a. lot of fun for you then yeah well catty. Shack came you know my brother Brian was. the wrote the Brian wrote it with Doug. Kenny one of the really great funny guys. from National Lampoon and Harold Ramos.

who end up directing the movie but all. the golf stuff is all Brian's you know. memories of cading and the whole golf. story comes from Brian sort of the I. mean they all rate jokes. but uh Doug was in charge of all the. fancy lad stuff his dad was some sort of. Tannis BR sometime rather in Ohio and. Harold wrote the jokes that were left. and shaped it and directed. it so you started off cading yeah yeah I. started as a shag boy which doesn't even.

exist anymore there's a thing called a. jam boy which I don't know if it really. exists my friend Duff insists that back. in the day there was a thing called a. jam boy who walked. around I think it was a slave or. something like it who who walked around. covered with Jam to draw the insects. away from the golfers now I don't know. if that's true or not we should ask your. ask your listeners but I was I was I. didn't have it that bad of course but um. a shag boy was the golfers had what they.

call a shag bag which was like a small. bag of golf balls like a 100 golf balls. or something like that and they would. dump them out on the practice tea and. you would run out there with the bag and. they would you would be the. target okay go out about 70 yards 60. yards you know and then theyd start. hitting you ever see no but see that. would be safer than what I was wearing. we didn't have that but I was just out. there see if can you yeah but I was. definitely out there and they would aim. at you and the thing was it would last.

for an hour or so and you know you're. only I was 10 when I started doing this. so um you sort of your mind would wander. and occasionally you'd hear like a ball. land next to you or really close I never. got conked exactly on the head but I. definitely got hit on one bounce any. number of times but um you were just a. Target and then you they he waving the. next club and you go like seven AR so. you'd have to back up a little farther. and then farther and the bigger the club. The Wider the dispersion of the of the.

ball so you had to run back you really. had to run to catch up to where this bad. golfer was hitting the golf po so that's. that was when I was 10 and then like a. year or so later I became like a caddy. and then I caddied all the way through. High School paid my way through high. school when did you start. playing well if you if you showed up to. caddy on Sunday you were allowed to play. golf on Monday morning so probably I. didn't really play golf golf like that. until really 12 maybe um maybe a little.

sooner may but we used to play golf. across the street from our house there. were there was like a a line of. telephone poles planted in Grass you. know and we would play from foam Pole to. foam pole and that was the that was the. pin so but so that's it and then I. didn't really play I mean once I sort of. you know. made it through high school I didn't. play for a long time until I I made some. money and then all of a sudden you can. play golf again because golf if you're.

not catting it takes money to play you. got at least play and be organized and. have set of clubs and stuff so I. um I picked it up then and uh and now I. like it you know I was going to give it. up a few years ago but then you know all. of a sudden my son started playing golf. I was like well that's what you got to. do you know I so now I'm having more fun. playing and I've gotten smarter do you. ever play golf no never no.

never no I'm scared of it because I. think it'll eat up all my time because. uh I get addicted to games oh yeah I. play. pool a lot do you have a pool table here. I got a couple pool tables here oh I got. one at home. yeah what game you play you play like. straight pool ball nineball you know I. should work on nineball I have a pool. table I mostly play with you know I. mostly play with the thing about it is I. know everybody who plays golf gets fully. addicted to it and loves it to death and.

I just don't have the time to get fully. addicted to another thing and you know. just being friends with Jamie and seeing. Jaime's addiction see what's happened. over the last few years he's become a. maniac he's got a a golfing simulator in. the back and he drives balls and oh yeah. track track a track man it's in here. yeah wow yeah he's set up in the garage. and he whenever I come do you live here. do you guys live in this building or no. we don't it's a big building but we. don't live here yeah we could we. definitely could maybe that's the next.

one maybe the next one will set up dorms. maybe yeah there's always the rooftop. Yeah well yeah yeah I guess okay well I. don't want you to get addicted well I. just I've heard you're a very good. golfer that's what I'm asking well just. keep that L going but it's but I I can. play okay you know I've play I've hit a. lot of golf shots like your handicap. Jamie will know what that means now it's. now it's about 12 the lowest I ever was. was about seven pretty good if you can. play yeah means I can play a little bit. and now it's actually it's what's the.

word diminishing it's going lower. because I've I've figured something out. there's a I went to there's a great book. these. ladies I got p and neelson and. Lynn pan Nelson's an easy one to. remember but ly what's whatever ly last. time they wrote a great book called. every shot must have a purpose you ever. read that one well I should talk about. them because they're they're they really. are on to something and it's about. quieting your brain when you play which.

I always thought I'd get better when my. as my brain softened it seemed to be. happening my brain was softening it was. maybe getting better but not fast enough. for me and then I I got started. following what these ladies have to. write they were anuka teachers at one. time in Anica sain Stam she's a famous. golfer okay Swedish every shot must have. a purpose there and there's the forward. part anuka anyway ly marriat how can see. I'm blocking that because it's a hotel. name but and I and I I didn't used to be.

a member of Marriott Club but okay so. that's a great book and they've written. a bunch of stuff that they they're they. know some stuff try that one Jamie does. it change it made it made me enjoy I. enjoy golf I've always had a lot of fun. but that made me enjoy golf even more. how so like what is it you know it just. it's decluttering you know it's like. when you do it in your life and you. um you know you talk about dist you you. know you mentioned distractions at the.

very beginning you know you think about. all the things that can catch you you. know to distract. you and if you're trying to do. something that's pretty. straightforward whether it's. um stir grits or uh sew a line of. something or or play a game of golf.

which ideally you only have to swing hit. the ball like 75 times if you're you. know if you everything that distracts. you from that is a is is a problem so. it's the ability to like sort of just. pull weeds out of your head as I read a. Japanese man say once and and and attend. to it when you attend to it it's for you. know it's a few hours to play a run of. golf like you say it takes a little time. but the actual playing of the game is. only minutes the actual hitting of the.

ball is only minutes like an NFL game. could take like three hours on TV but. it's like 20 minutes of action right. right right so it's similar to that in. golf that or anything. that you have to sort of return to. yourself to hit the ball you got to come. back get it back to. together to hit the ball or do anything. and. so you set your your you have the.

freedom in between the shots to move and. to speak and to tell jokes and smoke. cigars and whatever the hell you want to. do but when you want to hit the ball. this is about you gotta you're going to. think you make a little plan and you. separate. that you you sort of inculcate that you. take it in and then you separate that. and you step up and you hit the hit the. thing and hitting the thing only hitting. the thing and that if you can do. that then you start having real success.

with the actual hitting and the sort of. joy of the sort of Mind Body Connection. and all this sort of aesthetic uh all. the kind of like uh you know almost. spiritual things about a a Mind Body. exercise a game come to you you know. like you know when you hear great. athletes say they're in a Zone they're. not in a Zone they're really conscious. they're really connected they're really. aware it is a a it's more than a Zone. it's it's like the ideal place to be.

right right and what is it about their. writing that helped you like what is. their philosophy that helped like steer. you more towards being able to do that. well for for an example it's like. something that can keep you in your body. because you have to stay in your body I. I believe that anyway i' already believe. that but say so you've got this drle. here right. so imagine it's a golf ball one thing. that they sort to say was like you would. you would just in between shots you.

would just take your golf ball if you're. on a putting green or if you have a spar. in your pocket and you. just toss it up and catch it toss it up. and catch it that. keeps keeps you like physically aware of. I've got to do this and this and that. I've got to do these two things so I've. got to have my attention in my body I've. got to stay home you. know so if you can stay in your body. that it all begins in the body.

everything we are everything we hope to. be everything we dream about it's all. within the skin so you got to stay. within the skin so if you can make. yourself come back if you can get. yourself back. inside you don't have so far to go to. achieve your. intended goal you know right you don't. have to you don't have to like Direct. brag yourself back from outer space. you're not dreaming over there I'm in my. body already so I'm close you know does. that make sense J yes so and you know.

I've had some discussions with p and she. said well that's what the great golfers. are doing they are pulling themselves. back into this thing that's why they hit. so many good shots is because they. they're home you know their home you. know and so that's that's sort of what I. got out of her and I i' sort of learn. and believe that from other venues but. i' never had it put in with practical.

applications like like she gives they. give for golf you know you think of golf. as like oh I can be willy-nilly out here. and I can be fun or I can be aggressive. or I can be competitive or whatever the. hell all that stuff. is real that's emotion kind of thing but. you if you're not in the body good luck. right you know and it's only like that. well there's there's a great joy in. things that take you away from the rest. of the world because they require so.

much of your attention that's what I get. out of pool and that's what I get out of. archery too I practice archery but. there's things that require so much. Focus while you're doing them and you. have to be in your body you have to you. have to be synchronized I I would. imagine archery would be one of the more. challenging ones very challenging it's. very challenging because it's you have. you're supposed to have as little. movement as possible upon the execution. of the shot so there's all these. strategies they started televising it. lately it's really cool to watch it's.

very cool to watch and they've got them. cameras are right on their face and and. just the Torso just like this and you're. like God dang that's beautiful that's as. good a closeup as any Robin Hood movie. ever had it's just great no I love. watching it I watch it on YouTube all. the time there's these Las Vegas. shootouts where they have three targets. and they have 30 different shots so they. have they're trying to get an x 30. different times and they're standing. next to the best archers in the world.

everyone's at probably like 20 meters. and they're all just focusing like dead. still completely calm focusing Fus where. do you find that oh you can find it like. go to uh Lancaster. Archery uh. Vegas uh and they they have what they. call a Vegas face so a Vegas face is. three Target. but they got have like big screens CU. you can't see the faces from a distance. right you don't want to get between the. arrows of course no you definitely don't.

people bring binoculars all the all the. archers have binoculars and they all. pull them up after each shot because. they're looking for precise distances. and then they'll make slight adjustments. on their scope and their sight and move. and then they'll take a breath and but. it's just so do you have one of those. massivo this is exactly those things. don't even look fair so these guys are. all on this line and they're all firing. and the amount of pressure is insane. because really the guy makes money out.

of this thing is the guy who wins first. place everything else is not so good. there's not a lot of money and archery. look at the audience is like about 60. guys not a lot of audience right yeah. it's not a crowd pleasing so this is. just for real complete archery Fanatics. who are absolutely lost in this. connection between your mind your body. and the Flight of The Arrow the mystical. fly of the arrow that's can you go back. and freeze that there can you lose the. line on the bottom so that's just.

interesting to me to look at yeah like. their weight balance just to look at. like who's on his sort of half his front. foot mhm so it's interesting they have a. little bit more weight on their back. foot is that right well we're catching. this in in mid draw so he might settle. yeah see that guy that you were looking. at who was like that that's guy braer on. his back watch he'll settle so he'll. draw and as he draws he arches back and. now watch he'll settle forward see he. settle he was settling as the the angle.

change of the camera shot but they want. to ideally be about 50/50 and you're. just staying calm keeping it as steady. as possible is that guy in the. wheelchair shooting too yes yes there's. a guy that shoots with just his feet the. guy who doesn't have arms and he's. unbelievably accurate seen that guy yeah. he shoots with his toes so with what. these guys are doing is it's just a. perfect balance of technique and focus. and attention and they're actually.

trying to get what's called a surprise. shot they're not executing the shot like. you would like a rifle trigger most of. these guys use what's called a hinge and. so that's what they're going for they're. looking for so with a hinge you don't. you don't make the hinge you don't make. the release go off like with a button. where you press a button it's it's just. a rotation of the handle and you don't. know when it's going to go off so you. draw it back like this so you're not. like letting go with your fingers is it.

no you have a metal release in your hand. that has a hook and the hook is attached. to and by by just. rotating it breaks and so the the hook. breaks and so see the or some of them. use a thumb like that guy uh with the uh. yellow and black that guy so he's got a. thumb trigger so what he's doing is he's. setting the trigger the barrel of the. trigger right where his thumb is and. he's just using the pulling of his arm. to make it go off he's not executing it.

with his thumb now there's a a small. that's why they all look different when. they on the release I wonder why they. like it exploded their arms all fly. backwards if you watch see how their arm. moves backwards that's indicative of a. surprise shot that means they're. executing it perfectly so as they're. pulling back is that they don't know. when it's going to go exactly they're. just executing the technique which is. the pull with the back muscles you're. pulling with your rhomboids and then it. slowly goes guy right there see like.

that guy with the hat the black hat. watch see his fingers how it's curling. see how it goes off so that's just from. his hand curling that's making the shot. go off but they get it to the position. or the area where it's going to go yes. and they've got to be right they've got. to be yes poised forward but the the. idea is if you think about it going off. and you make it go off there's some sort. of a recoil so there's some sort of an. anticipation of that recoil and when. you're shooting that precisely that. anticipation of that recoil might make a.

difference of an inch or two left or. right yes that tension so you you try to. not anticipate so it TR does surprise. you I when you are doing that you do not. think about anything else it clears your. mind when you are just concentrating on. that Target you cannot think about your. bills and so you do it and when you when. a thought does come into your head it. you don't hit the target yes but it. doesn't come into your head it can't. it's too hard the the the process of.

aiming is so engrossing when you lock in. place and you're aiming and then you're. pulling back with the shot like you're. all in you're all there especially if. you're good if you're good that is the. only thing you're thinking of and. there's a moving meditation aspect to it. a cleansing of your mind you're your. worries go away your thoughts the things. that are bugging you and I got to do. this and I gotta call that guy back and. all of it goes away because it's so.

engrossing it requires so much of so how. how do you affect that yourself how do. you how do you move that away from. the incidental thoughts that pop in well. it's just the difficulty of it yeah yeah. the difficulty of it actually sort of. facilitates your meditative mindset. because if you're going to do it right. there's no other way to do it you you. literally can't be thinking about other. things while you're doing it well it's. it's not unlike golf like if you're.

thinking about what you got to pick up. on the way home exactly you're not going. to hit a good goal same as pool when you. know I play pool at a pretty high level. like I bet that book would be very. beneficial to me I bet there's some. techniques and strategies of how to. focus yourself and completely remove. yourself from the rest of the world and. just think about this Mind Body. Connection and this the execution of. this thing that you're trying to. do all right I'm going to try to do. that I know i' I i' I you know I don't.

play enough pool and but I did I had to. I had to shoot some pool in Groundhog. Day so I I got with like a guy who's a. pool expert and he just gave me drills. to do do you remember his name no okay. but um if he remembers he should say hi. anyway he taught me a bunch of things. and I was very I'm still very. disappointed because when I we actually. shot the scene I think I made I think I. sank I think I shot I think I sank like.

nine balls and seven balls eight balls. in three shots and I. went we got that and the and the and the. CTI was. like well let's let's set it up here I. I'll I'll set up a different sh I said. what are you talking about he had half. of the table in the oh no. all right I take a leak again okay you. want to wrap it up we can wrap it up no. that's okay okay all right take a leak. and come back all right I keep asking.

any suggestions they say well tell some. stories okay you should never ask for. suggestions so where do you come from uh. I was born in New Jersey uh went to high. school in Boston lived all over the. country lived in San Francisco for a. while when I was a kid Florida is that. were you in military or something no um. mother got divorced married my. stepfather he was going to school went. to San Francisco for that then. Florida and then eventually. Boston well that's pretty good I mean I.

think I always wanted to live in San. Francisco well I was in San Francisco. during the Vietnam war in the height of. the hippie days when I was a little kid. it's pretty wild it was a very. interesting time to to be there you know. it was a crazy Place yeah well that's. what H talking about the thing yeah Finn. yeah my brother was there too he went to. school out there at St Mary's in morocca. okay and so but it turned out he was. spending a lot of time in Berkeley yeah. he wasn't doing that much studying but. he but what a life he had out there what.

a fantastic time to have been there and. my other friend went to high school at. that time somewhere around there and I I. I envied that and I I I really like San. Francisco and I I was there recently I. saw Dr um not Dr Father Guido Sarducci. oh wow and had uh had had dinner with he. and with with him and and and Roman Copa. and we went to an old place called like. macaroni or something like that old.

Italian place and it was really. delightful what a I just love San. Francisco and I have friends who like. and we we started talking about politics. a long time ago like for political. reason say oh San Francisco they've. ruined San Francisco I said well and so. I was there and I know there's homeless. people in San Francisco now lots of them. and they're and there's homeless people. in Los Angeles and Santa Monica and. anywhere that it's warm yeah especi and. California is the most popular state but.

I don't think it's a I don't think it's. a political choice I mean I think isn't. it I I don't know the stats but these. people don't it's more of a mental. health thing I it's definitely a mental. health isue it's not anybody's politics. that are making people crazy or maybe. well it's but it's not making people. live on the street but I know I just I'm. sticking up for San Francisco thing it's. still I mean San. Francisco. survived the beatnicks it survived the. hippies it survived the earthquake it.

survived AIDS it survived everything. it's it's like a resilient extraordinary. place you know it still got a lot of. extraordinary aspects to it the problem. is they kind of encouraged people to to. sleep on the streets and [ __ ] anywhere. they want and they didn't do anything. about it and they just got you really. think they encourage people they definit. make it financially viable for them to. do they give them money to do it they. they they they well that sounds like. they're paying them their [ __ ] on the. street no they're paying them so that. they don't have to be poor or homeless I.

mean they have a tent and they they'll. help them they'll subsidize this this. existence what they need is more mental. health is it but it's a mental health. issue drug addiction in mental health. that's that's the real problem yeah and. when you don't address it and then you. just allow people to camp anywhere that. you want you're almost sort of. encouraging mental health problems to be. everywhere all throughout and just be. throughout the entire city it's just a. lack of empathy for the people if if. you're empathetic for them you don't let.

them just camp out and [ __ ] on the. street what you do is you try say. Obviously we have a real problem this. needs to be addressed for the greater. good of the city and for these people. they they need mental health care they. need addiction care they need it's a a. real problem that needs to be addressed. you can't just leave them out in the. street and let them do whatever they. want and become a hazard for everybody. else then it makes the city kind of. [ __ ] up well I don't know what the I. mean you know when you talk when you. speak it it speak it sounds like more of. a political choice that someone's saying.

well it sounds like you're saying. they're. being you know paid to [ __ ] on the. streets and mentally ill paid [ __ ] on. the streets they are mental illness. happened first before living stre. unquestionably it's all during the r. Administration when they opened up the. mental health institutes and just let. people out in the streets well it. started before that in New York and that. was my experience in New York was. um like Rockefeller way back when and I. could be wrong but this is how it was. attributed sort of opened up the mental.

closed the mental health hospitals and. pushed these many many many people out. on the streets yeah that had nowhere to. know where to go and it wasn't like it. wasn't a poverty situation although it. looks like it when you look at it it's. really a mental health situation. and a great number of these people have. no interest in going into a place right. they would just as soon live on the. street their life is like an interior. monologue that they can't control and.

and living in a home is no different. than living on the street the thing is. still going on the conversation is still. going on inside the brain but there has. to be a solution for it well okay but so. I don't disagree that there has to be a. solution but I don't I don't think that. people are this is sort of like where. you know i' like the thing about let's. not talk politics let's agree like what. we can agree. on so that solution is like this is. where the great minds of California or. the United States need to come together.

and say okay these are why don't we. solve these problems that are common to. every every state has a city that has X. number of people living on the street. whether it's. Yankton you know whether it's you know. Minneapolis whether it's you know. Louisville whatever everyone's got like. a street scen situation that's rough. like. that and it's it's hard to say let's you.

know you say there's got to be a. solution where's it where's that going. to come from and who's going to believe. it from if it comes from this direction. or that direction or this side or that. side how do you how do you. like evaporate the walls of separation. and say like how do we get how do we get. the right people with the right Minds to. solve the these questions you know these. are these are real things and and people. argue about them when I mean you and I. are are you know arguing but we're.

talking about yeah and neither one of us. is sleeping on the street right we both. feel compassion for it you know empathy. for it. but but how do you get people that are. far removed and we could say we're far. removed from it to like allow the. solution to take place from one side or. the other from one side any side who. gives it them who's got it right well it. has to be a a completely bipartisan. thing we have to look at it in terms of. the health of human beings in our.

community right this country is supposed. to be our community these people that. are on the street that they are sad sick. people in our community and some real. effort has to be taken to try to change. that instead of just enable them to keep. doing it that's all I'm saying I just. don't think that the solution is let. them Camp wherever they want let them. [ __ ] in the street AR I'm not there's no. argum to what you're saying AR so you. you were in this situation you had. this uh you people call it a a platform. or a place where you invite people to.

come here that. are that can speak to lots of people. yeah how many people watch your show a. lot so there's lots of people watching. your show. and when there's people that make sense. it's you hear it it rings a bell you. know it sounds it sounds like that I. wish I knew the answer to to to solving. these things and occasionally like I say. you see people who are these problem. solvers and the problem solvers.

come but you know people want to choose. their own Problem Solver you know it's I. know there's also money in being a. problem solver that's the problem one of. the parts of the big parts of the. problem in California in particular is. that there's an enormous budget to deal. with the homeless so you have these. people that work in these departments. that are making quar million dollars a. year that are just working on the. homeless problem which keeps getting. worse every year there's no incentive to. fix anything or change anything and it's.

a bunch of bureaucracy there's a lot of. [ __ ] that gets involved in the the. business I A buddy of mine there was a. lawyer who went to San Francisco and you. know he was disturbed by it all he was. like this is so crazy like what what is. missing do we need more funding and. they're like no you know and this guy. explained to him no they literally have. an incentive to keep the homeless. problem there's an enormous number of. people that are making a fantastic. living in dealing with the homeless. issue money on the homeless well there's. there's a giant list of people we could. pull it up if you want to save we don't. need to call them out but there's a.

bunch of tell me like who who makes. money on the homeless the people that. are involved in these organizations that. are dealing with the homeless whether. it's in Los Angeles or in San Francisco. you mean are they like government. people're govern job yes it's all funded. by the state and there's real jobs like. real money and nothing gets done nothing. changes in fact it gets worse every year. something needs to be done that shows. results like what is that I think it's. got to be compassionate it's got to be. something that both the left and the.

right can agree to so here's so I'm. trying to follow you God knows I'm. trying so are you having a hard time so. no no I I think we were talking earlier. about uh the agents versus The. Architects or something like that used. the word that explain like the people. who are like coming up with the sort of. thing it's like and I I was watching. something and I've really tried to avoid. watching the news lately but I saw. someone talking about and it was someone. that works and you know you say the word.

bureaucracy and it's it's a loaded word. and everyone and we all hate B. bureaucracy there just a word of it yeah. gives you like a creepy feeling. frustrating word yeah and so you know. it's like being on hold for Amtrak or. whatever the hell it is you know you. know there's someone you. know oh please God come back okay. so please God come back so the idea that. and so there's this person was talking. about the the cuts that are going to. come and to talk about eliminating the.

bureaucracy and I don't know what. particular Department this person was in. or not no not that's not what this. person was talking about she was but she. was saying you're talking a different. person she a different person I don't. know what your person is this is my. person my person is. saying the bureaucracy is like the. bureaucracy gets sort of like fed from. above somehow or other it's fed by these. people that are The Architects of one. side or the other but the actual. bureaucracy includes the people that can. solve the problem like incased in this.

bureaucracy are people that can solve. the problems and that if you just sort. of you know I'm not saying it's the case. but if you sort of just like Zip a bunch. of the bureaucracy out you you run the. risk of zipping out some of the people. that actually have the brains to do the. solutions and that. and what this person said was the. solution to the bureaucracy is within. the bureaucracy that is is is finding.

the people that know what they can what. what can be done because they really do. have the data they really do work they. actually do show up for work and they. actually have the data on how to do this. thing but because it keeps being fed. from above all the time there's just all. this extra debris and noise that keeps. coming down that causes more clutter and. more splitting and more something yeah.

so you know I'm not going to suggest. that I could solve the question of. bureaucracy today but I think there's. something about what we have we H we. have the people you know I S I'm I'm. going to go off on tangents now but I. always kind of had an objection to Tom. brokos book the greatest Generation. because I thought like damn it that's. not my generation why how do they get. that you know what I did start reading. some of it recently and he's to his. credit he's finding people that are very.

singular in that. generation that what generation is he. referring to well he's talking about the. generation that won World War II okay. and that generation was formed by the. Great Depression you know it was that. was part of what they had and then they. had a world war that lasted five years. and it's really hard for people of a. certain age to understand you know like. you think you have problems with your. relationship have your have your your. lover go away for five years and see how.

well you're doing upon that person's. return right see what the hell that's. like for five years and like you didn't. answer my letter you know my letter. right your letter what letter you know. that your letter never came you I was. under Fire whatever it was and then they. come back shell shock and then you come. back with shell shock on top of it and. then back then the sort of kind of I. don't want to say a macho thing but back. then people just didn't want to talk. about it which to me was the what is. part of what created the hippie.

generation. was kids couldn't get their parents to. talk about anything that they thought. mattered they they what their parents. were talking about was like huh wait. what about PE love what's so wrong about. peace love and understanding right right. so and they couldn't get to that because. even the idea of Peace was a completely. different concept to someone that lived. through a World War yeah or live through. a depression so though these kids were.

like I don't even understand who these. people are I know I'm their flesh and. blood but I don't know that I don't know. what the hell they know and why they're. this way but he chose people that very. that lived a very. intentional purpose in during that very. very difficult challenging time where. they just want I don't know what I don't. know I don't know what all this is but I. do what I do know I do know what I do. know and stay through that and that's I.

guess that I don't know how this relates. me to this idea of bureaucracy but. people that do know the facts have got. to stay with the facts even in the face. of like all the blunder busing above. about you know there's this and there's. that you've got to be really dedicated. to what you do know and and realize that. there's lots that you don't know but if. you give up what you know in the name. of you.

know jostling over. here you know then then there's even. more lost yeah no I I agree and I think. most people get involved particularly if. they get involved in something like. homeless or you know any any any. charitable organization most of the. people get involved aren't doing it. cynically they're not doing it to get. that big paycheck their initial reason. for being involved in something like. that is to help the problem is sometimes. when they realize it's just a big clog.

and you're not going to be able to do. any meaningful good then things get. weird and then you just sort of exist. off of this system that's not doing. anybody any good this is his argument. about why so many people are working on. this and nothing's getting better all. right so who's this when my friend Coan. Noir this is my uh friend who's a lawyer. who went to San Francisco and and saw. this and so and had a conversation with. someone who's actually uh in government. in San Francisco was explaining what the.

problem actually is and the government. people say it's just it's the government. no they they there's no incentive. there's no incentive for them to do a. better job and there's a very. compassionate perspective in the city. they're very kind people and they don't. want to take these homeless people and. remove them and that this um sort of. suicidal empathy that they have for the. people in their city is causing this. rash of tents everywhere and crime and.

you know you can't you have to leave. your [ __ ] car unlocked otherwise. they're going to smash your windows and. it's just that's what his perspective is. it's it there's no real incentive to do. anything different because these people. are still getting paid to keep it the. way it is it's not their their the. amount of money they make is not based. on how much good they do. so like if if they're financially if. they're incentivized to like you get. paid more if more people clean up seek.

treatment get get on medication get to a. Mental Health institution if you can. show some sort of progress it'll affect. how much money you get and vice vers if. you do if you have no progress and. nothing gets done and the problem. actually gets worse perhaps you're not. doing a good job well that sort of makes. sense doesn't it like you get results. you you know you you get encouraged by. getting more money but yeah so does this. remind you of anything it reminds me of. everything reminds me of the government. itself what does it remind you of well I.

I feel like there's something hanging. over our our heads here that's like this. this situation and maybe it's just a. continuous situation of of like a a. world that gets more and more people all. the time and and more people want to. have a voice and there's just more. people shouting all at once and there's. there's we don't there's not quite the. same kind of agreement we don't have. like a an ideal that we're all working. for you know I guess not to like cheat.

but you know they the greatest. Generation they had to fight a war to. maybe save the the S of structure of. Western Civilization you know there is. that argument you know right that if the. the Nazi party had do had defeated. England that that and you know you know. you know life would be different life. would have been different you know and. if and if that kind of dictatorship kind. of world had gone. further you know that we'd have been it.

would have been a different world it. wouldn't have grown the way it is but. now it's grown it's there's this Freedom. the war was fought the I. believe oh there was a great quote one. of those books like. uh there's no such thing as a bad piece. or something like that there's all kinds. of different but. I feel like. this like there's no no sort of idea. that we can agree that people can agree. on that's the source of like a reason.

for our being well it's a very uniting. thing to be all together against a. common enemy that is real like World War. II like there's a real purpose to life. people understand that this is a very. important Mission this is something that. unfortunately it's one the best ways to. unite people is a threat from theide all. we've come up with well that's what. happened after 911 you remember 911.

everywhere in La people driving around. with American flags on their car I'll. never forget 911 what it was like to. walk down the streets in New York after. 911 there was nothing like it I've ever. experienced in my whole life right it. was bizarre and but it was also very. United like people were together it. people looked into each other's eyes you. walk by someone on the street yeah and. every person on the street looked right. in your eyes yeah and that lasted for. weeks mhm I never I mean people in New. York walk with their head down they look. they're they're reading the paper but.

people just looking by like okay we're. in this yeah together yeah and I think. some people actually obviously hated the. act of what happened but loved the way. people reacted and how people felt with. each other it did feel different New. York City felt friendly it felt United. it felt like people were proud to be. American we were we're all together. there's bad people out there they did. this to us but we're all together well. okay so what we have here with the. situation of like just using San.

Francisco as the as the idea is like. it's just a gentler version of something. that we could all say this is something. that we have to yes go to war about or. yeah well it's a task whether it's yeah. any any kind of a problem that we have. as a group that we all are affected by. yes or care about what's too easy to. ignore it's too easy to just say oh. there's the tense let's go this way and. the the reality is the health of the. community is it's dependent upon the.

health of the lowest members of the. community on the social rung the lowest. members are the people that are sick and. if you don't take care of them if you. don't take care of the people that are. mentally ill that are homeless that are. addicted to drugs that are on the street. that are desolate that don't have. friends don't have love don't have. structure don't have anything that they. can call upon horrible childhood the. whole deal if you don't if you don't. look at them then you're Society sick. because this is the the foundation of. the society is the people if you got a. group of people that are part of your. community and you're completely ignoring. their plight that's not good for anybody.

that's not good for big business that's. not good for the common folk that's not. good for people in the neighborhood it's. not good for anybody and it's gotten so. far because it's so big now the problem. is so enormous it's almost too big to. tackle it's almost like okay you're. dealing with LA you're dealing with a. 100,000 people living on the street. that's so many [ __ ] people that's the. entire population of Boulder that's. Boulder Colorado intents on the street. in La that's crazy it's almost too big. and I talked to Mayor Adler who was the.

mayor of Austin uh at the time when I. first moved here and he was he had a. bunch of plans in place to help the. homeless people and they did an amazing. job because it got pretty bad here. during the pandemic I remember they're. being homeless here yeah they they got. hotels they put people up they put. together programs they got people jobs. they they they there is a company that. uh we've had what is his name that we. Allan that we had in here Allan Graham. yeah uh from Loaves and Fishes who we. went I went and visited his community.

they set up he has this this community. where they um build houses for these. people they bought an enormous piece of. land outside of Austin and he sets up. work programs for these people gives. them a sense of purpose it's an amazing. place to be they're doing art and. selling art it's working yes it's. working yeah I mean it doesn't work with. every body but it works with a lot of. them and these people they have a sense. of community they all live in a safe. area and you know we walked around I. brought my kids we walked around there.

it was like the whole thing was really. nice it was really wonderful it was. really cool what he's. doing well how did that well so that guy. his plan his way of working needs to. obviously get out get out there it's got. It's got to get around so how he lives. there he lives there and this is a guy. who has money he lives in the community. with those people this man must be. deputized well he's a Christian like a. real Christian like in the greatest. sense of the word like he's a guy who. really believes in reaching out to. people and helping people uh this is.

yeah this is alen right here he's just a. wonderful guy like a really beautiful. person and lives with these people. they're his neighbors and they're. constantly bringing people in and he has. all these different programs that people. can sign up for to learn arts and crafts. and learn how to sell things that you've. made and it's really cool. and you know I mean he's doing his part. he's it's small in relation to like the. problem of San Francisco or but you need.

people like that that really dedicate. themselves to it yeah I've heard of. Loaves and Fishes that this sounds I I. didn't know all of this about it's. pretty amazing it's a pretty amazing uh. place that he's got and he's expanding. it he's they're they're building new. ones right now so there's the small. houses that these people live in and. they'll have like a community kitchen. where they can go and barbecue and grill. outside and there's an arts and craft. Center these people they they make cool. chest pieces and they sell them they. make paintings and they sell them. jewelry they're doing all these. different things and they it gives them.

a sense of purpose we got to get this. guy to San Francisco yes well you need. more people like him that's what it is. it's just he's a very unique guy people. there got to there must be people like. him but you you mean it's a lot I mean. he lives with them I mean he's in the. community has one of those little houses. in this you know giant area filled with. people and he's. with them as for encouragement and you. know it's it's a beautiful thing it. sounds really amazing yeah it's. beautiful okay should we wrap it up Bill.

Murray yeah okay I'm sorry I get you so. long no it was amazing it's an honor to. meet you I've really enjoyed it very. much and uh I I appreciate talking to. you thank you and thanks for the shirt. and thanks for the shorts yeah well I'm. gonna wear those okay but you. know I I will just say that those shorts. are very they're forgiving shorts shorts. so if you've had a big meal good. beautiful you they still fit you I like. that they're good can people buy these. can they for sale yeah yeah they sell.

where they go um it's called William. marray golf they sell them uh they sell. them online a lot and they I know they. sell them um they sell them in the golf. shops some places in some stores there. that's that's ey right there beautiful. yeah that's it William look at that guy. look at that look at that handsome. [ __ ] model yeah that's a model that's. a good looking fella uh Let's Get Loud. all right that may be a model too yeah. he's definitely a model he's. beautiful well thank you very much I. really enjoyed it same thank you enjoyed.

it thank for having bye everybody. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music].