Joe Rogan Experience #2268 - Rick Caruso

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day good to see you sir thanks for. having me great pleas to be here pleas. thanks for being here uh it is a uh. terrible time for Los Angeles and uh. unfortunately uh you did not win I. wanted you to win I was rooting for you. thank you uh it's just the politics in. LA are it's it's almost like watching.

people who are in a cult who are being. confronted by the cult experts who are. telling them hey this is all crazy and. fake and you're you're ruining your life. and they're like no no no I think it's. going to work out yeah well there's a. lot of things that aren't working out. yeah there's a lot of things that are I. mean listen I know like you being. spending time and living in La it's an. amazing City It's amazing And when I ran. for office as much as I loved La I.

actually fell in love with it more. because I got to see places that I would. normally see and so it was really. amazing and people and the diversity and. the dearness of so many neighborhoods. and. people but what's happened to La over. the last decade is just tragic and. people are paying huge consequences for. it and um it's sad to watch so if you. get to the heart of it like if you did. if you won and you became the mayor of.

what could you do to try to turn this. Battleship around cuz it's a big. Battleship it's a big Battleship and. people will argue that the mar La. doesn't have a lot of authority like. other Mayors um you know I learned a lot. Joe I worked for three Mayors I worked. for Tom Bradley when I was in my mid-20s. as a commissioner I was the head of. Department of Water and Power I worked. for dick Rearden he brought me back into. head up. DWP during the energy crisis uh the. department was under lot of financial.

strain and then I work for Jim Han who. brought me in to turnaround LAPD and I. was the police commissioner the head of. the police commission so I've seen. really good. leadership um and honestly what we've. had in the last two Mayors is not good. leadership and we're paying a price for. it so you may not have a lot of power. but actually I think the most powerful. thing you can have that I learned as a. police. commissioner if you're not worried about. getting reelected or reappointed is it's.

really amazing what can happen because. you can make decisions that are actually. in the best interest of the people and I. believe the career politicians are. always worried about getting reelected. they are scared to death of getting a. real job they've never had to sign the. front of a check only the back so it's. very difficult for them to even think. about being out of office so they just. circulate you know they go from the city. council to the State Assembly to the. state. senate and we end up with the same sort.

of look and feel of leadership which is. pretty weak um I think dick Ruden was a. good example of a guy who came in and. did a lot of great stuff I actually. think Jimmy hin did a lot of great stuff. uh as mayor so I would go in there was. some strong leadership I would certainly. go in there and reach across the aisle. and find common ground and all of those. things you need to do to move forward. but I would certainly plant some really. strong goals that everybody knew we were.

working working towards because you know. I believe that you either lead follow or. get out of the way and I really admire. people who lead and um I wouldn't mind. being a little bit controversial if it's. in the interest of doing what's in the. best interest of the residents well. that's what I enjoyed about your Campa. campaign and that's what I was really. hopeful about is that it seemed like you. were not running for mayor because you. wanted to be the mayor you you were. running for mayor because you're a. businessman and you realized that this.

was not being run like a successful. business you knew how to run a. successful business you knew the. difference and La is just constantly. plagued by this crony polit political. movement this this these the same people. same type of people shuffling in and out. and it's just nothing ever changes yeah. and again to give you a little bit of. background I am so indebted to La it. sounds a little bit corny but you know. my.

paternal and maternal grandparents they. were both immigrants my my grandfather. paternal grandfather was a gardener in. Los Angeles he lived in boil Heights he. started as a as a coal miner he actually. probably had one of the worst jobs you. could ever have in life when he. immigrated here to a little town called. Uniontown. Pennsylvania he was the dynamiter he was. the guy that had to go in the lead oh. boy yeah set the dynamite and get the. hell out in time and his brother who. immigrated with him said come to LA at.

Sunny my my dad was actually born in a. coal mining camp outside the coal mine. but anyway he was a gardener out here. and we actually grew up in his truck as. he would go around and had they had this. small little home they rented in in boil. Heights and I think. about what La gave to my grandparents to. my dad to me my family the opportunity. to build a business and so running for. mayor the motivation was I want to give.

back to the city that gave me so much. and by the way all the problems that. we've got you can fix them with a little. bit of backbone a little bit of smarts. if you're equipped right bring together. some really smart people you can fix. everything and to your point what. happened when I was tied uh at the end. of the race and actually a little bit. ahead you know Biden flies into campaign. Camala flies into campaign cign Pelosi.

Bernie and at the end of the day when. we're 10 days before election day they. finally convinced Obama to uh do a. message and so the system is so it's a. Clos looped right and the idea that. somebody was going to come in the tent. that's an outsider was horrifying to him. and you know we would laugh about it as. a family it's like you might as well. just load up Air Force One all at one.

time and bring everybody out right but I. loved every minute of it um and you know. I hope at some point that system is. changing and I think people are getting. more frustrated lately and they're. looking for people who are competent. rather than just people who may share. ideology all right it's February and by. now 80% of people have probably. abandoned their New Year's resolutions. and it makes sense life can get crazy. and all the sudden you don't have the.

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difference between 2020 and 2024 how. many different counties went red that. were blue. historically it so let's break down the. problems with LA and what could be done. to fix it what do what do you see is. like the primary issues of LA right now. well you know you got a homeless problem. that continues to grow so let's talk. about that okay 70,000 people one things. we've covered on that it's it's at 7,000.

I mean if they have a real accurate. count but the real question is why and. why is so much money spent on it and no. results we we've covered it on this. podcast that there's people that are. bureaucrats that work for this yeah. Department of homelessness and they're. making quar million dollars a year and. they have no incentive whatsoever to. make anything better because it doesn't. hurt them they're not paid based on. whether or not they clean up the. homeless issue they're just paid so the. longer the homeless issue goes on the.

more they keep their job right and it's. a profitable job Y and they just rant on. and on about we need housing like that's. not the problem but you. know I had a plan and I I I'm confident. my plan would have worked let let's talk. about housing for a minute LA and LA. County they put in a tax called. HHH um to build 10,000. units at least about a year ago I think. they had maybe short of a thousand units.

built and that's amazing over 10 years. over 10 years I'm amazed they built one. yeah I know but you know what they built. them for. 800,000 a unit W that was the cost of it. if you go to the if you go to the the. sector the nonprofit sector that's. actually doing amazing work with the. homeless like down on skidrow Ground. Zero they're building on average 300,000. a unit but what happens in the city the. government government there's so many.

layers of waste on top of waste on top. of waste it's ridiculous so yeah you're. right very little is happening almost no. housing is being built by the government. even though they have massive taxes we. got another tax called Ula when you sell. your home you have to pay another 5%. over $5 million so there's taxes on top. of taxes there's there is a solution to. the homeless so let's give it I just. give you an example there's a company. called boxable outside of Vegas and. they're building units that are 5 600.

square ft on average they're about 60. 70,000 a unit this young guy figured out. how to build a basically a production. line to knock these things out and when. I was campaigning I said to him when I. win I'm going to give you a contract for. 30,000 units and we there's so much open. space Joe in and around Los Angeles. that's controlled by the city and we're. going to start getting people in homes. getting them taking care of giving them. the service they need but the other.

thing we need to do you can't have open. drug dealing on the streets we welcome. it and if you look around MacArthur Park. the great old langers Deli and the poor. owner Norm langers who basically said. after 70 years I got to close my my. restaurant it's terrible terrible. amazing old place and then you know. mayor bass promised I'm going to be down. there I'm going to clean it up we're. going to fix it hasn't changed in six. months since she said that it can be. cleaned up it can be fixed you got to.

have some backbone it's uh a lot of it. is a mental health issue correct very. much so probably half and drug addiction. drug addiction a lot of that comes from. mental health issues as well right yes. so what could be done I mean you're. dealing with an enormous population of. people that have this issue it's. probably closer to 100,000 in LA county. maybe could I mean that's the the high. estimates right so let's say 70,000 to. 100,000 people you have a lot of people. what could be done to um have some sort. of a a large program that gets real.

results with helping these people with. their mental health issues and helping. these people with their drug addition. issues I think you start first by. enforcing the law and don't allow the. sale of drugs on the street and holding. the drug dealers accountable not just. the sale but the open use I mean meth. cooking meth right. out all the above I mean literally in in. downtown there's tents that are run by. the drug dealers where everybody knows.

to go to get their drugs so you got to. start there but I'm a big believer that. government alone can't solve major. problems right right and you've got. organizations downtown that are really. doing great stuff um downtown women. Center is doing great stuff Union Rescue. Mission great stuff and they're bringing. people in they're giving them the help. and the treatment they need for drug. addiction and mental health care and. they're giving them. housing scale those people up take that. dollars were spending and wasting on the.

city trying to do it and start pushing. dollars to organizations that have a. proven track record of success and their. success Joe is like a 90% success rate. and scale it why go reinvent a model. that's already working well and there's. probably a dozen organizations downtown. that are doing a good job and what are. they you do it at a fraction of the cost. I interrupt you du to a fraction of the. cost well these people that are being. successful what how are they doing it. what do they what's their method you. know it's.

like I'm not the expert in it but when I. went down there and spent time during. the campaign and since then because. we've been supportive of their efforts. as a family they actually welcome people. as they are no judgment downtown women's. center tonight in Los Angeles there'll. be about 20,000 women that will go to. sleep on the street and the majority of. those women will in some form or fashion. be abused sexually abused right it's. terrible that we allow this it's a crime. we allow this.

but an example of downtown Women's. Center they they accept them the way. they are mental health condition drug. addiction condition they have embedded. Services downtown in um their facility. they have housing there form and they. give them the treatment and it's. happening in real time and they're very. effective doing it like I said they've. got about a 90% success rate so they. have Highly Educated skilled workers. that know how to react and deal with the. people on the street that's what we need.

more of I don't think you need to be. build new big institutions what I do. think you need to do is cut all the red. tape start building quickly funding. these. organizations and fund them quickly if. you talk to downtown Women's Center it. will take them an average of six years. to build new housing six years that's. crazy it's crazy and it's in skid row. it's not like you're building in a. sensitive Environmental area right right.

right give the damn permits and say go I. first encountered Skid Row when we used. to film Fear Factor downtown no and I. you know I'd heard of it I had no idea. and we were driving we we we had done a. bunch of the Fear Factor stunts in uh. abandoned buildings it makes a good. backdrops creepy um and when I went. there one time I took a wrong turn and. uh I went like right into the meat of. everything and I was like this is. insanity and this. was.

2004 2003 so this is 20 years ago 22. years ago and even back then it was. bananas come see it now oh I've heard. well we watched that documentary is it. the Carlile Hotel. Jamie one of the the documentaries on. the one of the old downtown uh hotels. and it went into the history of skid ow. and that what Skid Row was they would. take people they would arrest them for. being vagrant somewhere else and they'd. bring them to Skid ow and just leave. them there and basically box them in and.

leave them in this area and they had you. know soup kitchens and places where they. could get food and they were allowed to. just sleep on the street and so they. just stayed there and so they. essentially instead of fixing this. problem of homeless people and mentally. ill people they just pushed them into. this one area and they said let's just. you know we got a a spot we could just. stick them turn our back on it and then. of course every business in that area. got devastated yep all those hotels is. glorious old classic hotels I mean in. fact in fact the Morrison Hotel just.

caught fire because vagrants were living. in it and it's gone now um so these. methods that these people are using that. are successful what are they what are. they doing well what they're doing is. they're giving them the treatment they. need now Union Rescue Mission is has a. different approach Union Rescue Mission. you know that's a faith-based. organization okay hugely successful it's. overflowing they can't accommodate. everybody that they need a lot more. funding but they don't allow anybody to. use drugs or alcohol the minute they.

check in and they get an. apartment the other organizations that. I'm aware of allow them to continue that. but they're required to go on programs. to get off the drugs to get the mental. health care that they need so they have. skilled workers they they're literally. daily classes there's protocols there's. requirements of the residents on what. they can do and what they can't do they. give them structure they give them. structure that's right they get that's a. great word you're exactly right they. give them structure they give them. training they give them hope and they.

give them a path. forward I've always said this let's. assume your numers right there's 100,000. homeless on the streets in LA county. whatever the number is people say you. can't solve the whole problem why don't. we start with solving half of. it be nice yeah let's start with let. let's solve for the the the group of. people that for whatever reason are down. and out lost their job lost their.

apartment you've got more families on. the streets now Joe than ever. before let's start with that group and. let's help them very quickly give them. training give them a job give them a. path forward and then you sort of work. through the system but we're not even. doing. that right and so and now you've had the. fires the estimate is there's another. 180,000 people in La that are homeless. is that insane to think about it's.

insane the the. 180,000 though a lot of them it's just. because they're trying to find a place. but they're not destitute these a lot of. these people are people that had some. money you know who knows what's going to. happen with insurance right right that's. the problem unfortunately the fire. insurance issue in in Los Angeles is. kind of insane it's terrible where you. know uh we were talking in the lobby. before I was evacuated three times when. I lived in La. um two of my neighbors lost their homes.

you know and watching those folks cry in. front of the rubble yeah where they. lived it's. just it's just horrible you know um but. they kept their lives and you know they. this was 2018 and you know they rebuild. some of them two two of the houses are. still gone in my old neighborhood mhm. they never rebt SAR about they just they. just pulled out it's just like what am I. going to do they lose everything I mean. Mel Gibson lost books from the 16. hundreds you know Mel is a very.

religious man and he he collects like. these ancient Irreplaceable books wow. and and then you know of course the loss. of lives is horrifying um that issue is. an issue that has plagued LA and. California. forever uh so a big point of contention. during the election and even during the. first Trump Administration was the use. of water and that water was being. funneled into the Pacific ocean and now. apparently you could tell me more you.

probably know more than I do what has. been done about that water because it. seems like Trump has changed that well I. think what Trump did a good job of first. of all I'm grateful for that for the. fact that he flew out had a meeting and. I'm grateful and you know I have my. differences at time to time on some. issues with him but he sat down and he. was forceful in a very strong way of. holding the elected officials. accountable like get the people back in. their homes now so the fact that in this.

tragedy we've got a president who's also. a builder who understands what needs to. be done I think is great and I I hope he. continues to hold all the elected. officials accountable he can make a big. difference and we need it on the water. issue listen I headed up Department of. Water and Power like I said for 10 years. I have a pretty good understanding of. the water issues what's happening in the. North. really has not as much of an impact as.

happening down in Southern California in. terms of how the water gets transferred. around it doesn't mean we should be. pouring water into the ocean we should. not be we should be doing a lot of. things we should be collecting water we. should be holding water we should be. recycling water we should be doing a lot. of things what happened in Los Angeles. which is. just close to negligence if not. negligence Jo the fire hydrants ran out. yeah we we evacuated our.

home. and uh we're in Brentwood so you know. the area we're 15 minutes from the. Palisades where the fire. started and it was my birthday we were. having family dinner uh from the second. floor we saw the Flames we said we're. going to have to get out of here the. power went off we said we're out. gathered the family we moved down to a. home we have in Newport Beach. and I get a call from one of my senior.

Executives who sort of embedded in with. the fire command. post and my heart dropped he said we. just lost your daughter's home and I. said oh my God banon how the hell did. that happen you know um he said you. can't believe it the hoses ran dry and. the whole neighborhood went. up and I was so. angry that I. Fox 11 the local Fox station was on with.

Alex Michaelson and I texted him because. they were reporting live this about. 10:30 at night I said are you getting. reports that they've run out of water he. said not at all and I said you need to. report this he said do you want to come. on live I said yeah hook me up and I. went on he couldn't believe it and some. of the media was trying to spin it I saw. that like it's not true yeah and then. they went right to the fire. went right to the firemen right the.

fireman said yeah we're standing there. empty. hoses how in God's name the second. largest city in the country can you have. a water system that runs out of water in. a fire and you knew the fire you knew. this was coming right they gave warnings. of catastrophic. winds the reservoir is empty over I. think it was 1.7 million gallons I think. it's 11 million maybe 11 million yeah. probably right. it's empty during Fire season yeah.

you've got brush that hasn't been. cleared for 40 years there was a whole. bunch of us um raising hell about that. after the fire in Brentwood six years. ago yeah nothing was done the fire. department wasn't predeployment. that's underfunded and you've got Fire. Equipment that's mothballed and then the. mayor flies to Ghana and the M out of. town so what what should have been done.

and who's responsible well I think the. leadership is responsible at every level. I think the mayor's responsible for not. being better prepared I think she's. certainly responsible for not staying in. town it's a lack of judgment if you want. to be a leader uh the first thing you. have to do is be present um I don't know. what all the meetings that she had. beforehand to make sure everybody was. prepared but years ago the brush should. have been cleared yes right. you probably couldn't have prevented the.

fire maybe you couldn't have prevented. the fire I only God knows well we don't. really could have mitigated it we don't. really know the source of the fire yet. and we do know there was quite a bit of. arson that's that's true that's true and. there was a fire to your point there was. a fire New Year's Eve from. fireworks and there's some talk that it. may have been in that same area that. this sparked up again or maybe it was. another arson that went up there but but. it seemed like there was several fires. started very close to each other it.

seems like highly unlikely could be that. there was just three accidents that took. place at the same time as these. catastrophic winds could be then the you. know the most Sinister version of it is. that somebody wanted this to happen. maybe some mentally ill person I know. they did arrest a sickness yeah it is a. sick arsonists are they're really sick. people and it's a known psychological. illness there's uh a guy that they. arrested that was a a known arsonist. several times arrested who uh had a fake.

fire truck and drove down yeah drove. down from Oregon to do who knows what. can you imagine yeah well there's you. got to be really there's some psychos. out there yeah there's some real sick. people out there there's some weird. people also that enjoy watching other. people lose everything it's very strange. yeah but I I guess people who feel like. they have nothing and they feel like the. world screwed them over and they haven't. got the breaks they deserve they. literally want to watch and there's this. entitled culture that we live in that. kind of tells people that the reason why.

other people are successful is because. they've stolen from you right which is. just the craziest thing craziest thing. to say in America but it gives them an. excuse it gives them an excuse and it. also gives them a pathway to vent their. anger and instead point it productively. at their own lives like why am I in this. position right now what could I have. done differently what personal. responsibility do I have for the way I. live right now instead of that it's like. no no no these rich people they [ __ ]. you over that's right they took. advantage of us yeah um so the water why.

what is the explanation for why that. enormous Reservoir that provides the. Palisades with water was empty well the. explanation that's been said is it's out. of service because the cover on it. needed to be repaired oh the cover the. cover because you know we're very. sensitive in La that bad things don't. get in our water so they have to keep. all these reservoirs covered which in. general I get I I I get the safety of. that but how about this you you know. that you have catastrophic winds coming.

start pumping water in it cuz nobody. gives a [ __ ] about what's in the water. yeah when you need it in your fire Hy. yeah right that could have been done in. probably a couple of weeks whatever it. took yeah and it's not like we don't. know La has fire season I remember every. year because uh when I where I used to. live in Bell Canyon is you know it's. about 35 minutes from LA right and it. gets rough out there it's like a lot of. like big Rolling Hills and it gets all. filled with grass and if it catches and. the winds start whipping through those.

Canyons the winds in California for. people don't don't know every year we. get the Santa Ana wins that's right and. they're crazy they some of them were 100. miles an hour this year that is just if. you ever been out there for that that's. nuts and if there's fires blowing boy. it's no it's it's it's a terrible. combination I mean the early settlers. called them the devil winds they've been. there forever forever to your point. they've been there forever so just think. about you know had the brush been. cleared had the reservoirs been full had.

the fire trucks been. stationed had there been a whole series. of protocols in place again we could. have saved some houses it could have. saved a lot a lot of lives a lot of. houses a lot of jobs a lot of pain a lot. of pain yeah I know so that's just. incompetence there's no way you could. say oh I see why they didn't do that oh. I see why they didn't have the resources. oh it's not their fault no there's none. of that there no one's saying that. that's right everyone is saying it's a.

failure it's a failure because they're. not equipped to deal with the leadership. they needed even the Spin Masters even. the the greatest of gaslighters have. nothing there's not one person who's. tried to pass the buck I've not seen one. successful person go on the air and say. everything was done that could have been. done we have amazing leadership we're. really proud of them we're really lucky. we have them not one you're right not. one that's kind of crazy it is kind of. crazy cuz they Gaslight everything no.

matter what it is everything's safe and. effective everybody's fine everything's. great we he's the sharp as attack. everything they Gaslight the [ __ ] out of. you with everything but with this one. they're like but there's not nothing you. could say I agree with it because the. facts are the facts the facts are the. facts you just can't argue around the. facts and also there's a thing that. happens when an area bigger than. Manhattan that's filled with the most. liberal people they're the most liberal. they're the most blue no matter who the. the most like the like.

compassionate cons like kind people that. like view being a Democrat and being a. liberal as being the the ultimate. expression of being a good person and. they're getting slapped in the face by. the real politics have changed it's a. big weekend get in on the action of the. big game and UFC 312 at draftking. Sportsbook the official sports betting. partner of the UFC the men men's. middleweight and women's strawweight. titles will be on the line in the.

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in Ontario new customers only bonus bets. expire 168 hours after issuance for. additional terms and responsible gaming. resources see. dk. audio I think the reality has set in. honestly and it's unfortunate it's taken. this but the reality really has set in. that you've got to have competent. leadership yes and what happened at DWP. because I was there for 13 years 10 of. which I was. president or close to 10. is the the head of that department got.

politicized years ago under Bradley and. under reardan under. Han the general manager of Department of. Water and Power was always somebody who. came through the ranks who was just this. exceptional engineer and that department. was regarded as best-in class in the. country as a utility Bar None the best. financial rating the best Engineers. wanted to work there it buil some of the. most amazing projects in history.

including Hoover Dam so let's just start. with that one right then what. happened politics creeped into who was. the general. manager that destroys an organization. this is an organization that's not in. the business of being necessarily doing. what's politically important at the time. it's in the business of delivering water. and. power and. the failure is also there I don't.

understand how the current general. manager of the department I don't know. what she did didn't do but the kind of. failure that's on her desk where the. buck stops she needs to resign she needs. to be fired in my opinion by the mayor. and be held accountable for whoever made. bad decisions including herself but. we're allowing this and so the minute. you allow that. that continues this creep of.

incompetence is tolerated and it. shouldn't be tolerated because people. lost their lives they lost their homes. right well am I right about that you're. 100% right and I think you're 100% right. about politics and the problem with. politics is that people want to preserve. the structure that pays them they want. to preserve the entity that they're. invested in that they have their time in. they have all their connections. and this is the the weird world of.

politics verus the world of business and. you know what's fascinating right now is. we're getting a chance to see what. happens when you take a business. approach to the government in the white. house we're seeing right now with this. whole us Aid thing where they're. uncovering massive amounts of corruption. and waste and and just a lot of weird. shady [ __ ] with Nos and and where an. enormous amount of money is going and. you're seeing someone look at this thing.

that is incredibly efficient almost by. Design and instead of saying like well. this is just how it is and this is how. these politicians get funded so let's. just keep this thing going the same way. it is and make some incremental changes. to try to make people happy so we still. get elected instead of that you're. seeing a a politician a president who's. coming in who can't get reelected so. he's just going ham and he's just. cleaning out everything and people are. freaking out out the same people that. say we need radical change right we need.

radical change we've got corruption we. need radical change okay well here's. your radical change we don't need this. but you do the government does they need. oversight and they haven't had that and. because of that you you're seeing this. not just waste you could call it waste. but it's it's deeper it's deeper than. waste it's corruption and you're seeing. that that corruption get weeded out I am. hoping that this is successful and that. it yields a benefit the American people. to the workingclass people to everybody.

where they recognize like hey we can't. just be spending all our [ __ ] tax. money on nonsense and it all should be. done with a real clear understanding of. getting results right if that happens. and that's that idea spreads across the. country because ideas spread and and. people change their minds and you know. and sometimes it happens one guy in the. neighborhood go you know what [ __ ] this. I'm fed up and then everybody like yeah. I've been kind of thinking that too I. just didn't want to say it and then.

people start talking and then it's not a. scary thing to discuss anymore that's. right it opens the door 100% And I think. you're seeing that now I feel it in LA. you're seeing that now like I said it's. terrible that it took this kind of. tragedy to have people seeing it I'm a. big believer it can change I'm a big. believer that La can turn around I'm a. big believer we can fix the problems I'm. a big believer we can fix the problems. in California I really am and I think we. have started to turn this corner where.

people are saying you know what whether. you're democrat or republican to me sort. of doesn't matter are you competent do. you have experience are you going to. make decisions for the right reason when. when I was a president of the police. commission it was the most amazing. experience because Jim Hans mayor we. have a police. department that was failing miserably. after the Rodney King riots the police. department was under the feder a federal.

consent decree a federal judge was over. saying it we had Bernie Parks who was. the chief of police I don't know if you. remember Bernie Parks he was probably. there when you were living there he. looked he came out of Central Casting. very handsome proud black man and wore. the uniform beautifully Rose through the. ranks super nice guy we were. friends Jim Hong calls me and says hey I. want to appoint you as a president of. the police commissioner. and I said Mr Mayor I really appreciate.

it but I don't want the job because I. knew what the job was going to entail. potentially having to fire a very very. popular chief of police and he's two or. three times called back I finally did it. so glad I did because I learned so much. from the experience at the end of the. day decided we needed to move on and. have a different chief of police what. was wrong what what was he doing what he. was doing Joe is he had put. in procedures discipline procedures that.

were so onerous on the. officers that one officers were leaving. but more. importantly the bad guys particularly. the gangs were very smart that they. would start filing complaints in certain. areas that they wanted to control around. the city and so the officers started. getting all these complt complaints on. their record and once they did it held. up any kind of promotion or transfer so.

what did the cops started doing they. started saying I'm just not going to go. to that area and the minute they. abandoned that area The Gangs controlled. it and crime was going crazy how clever. yeah right yeah so I would go to the. Chief and say come on you got to change. the discipline process nope not changing. a thing very stubborn guy he had all the. answers but yeah and I I I don't mean. that. I I'm it's factious he didn't have all.

the answers obviously but so that was a. main problem so if you had an area of. the city that bordered LA County LA City. crime was Rising LA County was going. down because the sheriffs are actually. proactively and not in an abusive way. proactively policing it LAPD was. retreating cops were upset cops were. leaving the academy is empty all of. these things were happening had to. change. leadership I had people burning me in. effigy literally my wife would call me.

and say oh my God they're burning you. outside of City Hall they're marching it. was crazy to put pressure on me to keep. Bernie Parks not because Bernie Parks. was the the best chief of police because. it was politically correct to do. that and I remember calling Jimmy Han. the mayor and I said I'm going to make a. recommendation and you're probably not. going to like it because it's you're. going to come under a lot of heat. and to his credit he said just do what's. right I'll take the Heat and I.

recommended we hire Bill. Bratton and we brought this guy in to. La his Boston accent and. all best cop in the. country built a team around. them uh we got crime down to levels not. seen since. 1950 doing all the right things engaging. the community senior leader officers. walking the beat getting to know the. neighborhoods started hiring people.

wanted to be a member of LAPD there was. now back of pride in it completely. turned it around within a couple. years but that all. came and then Jimmy lost. re-election because the black community. unfortunately abandoned him um because. of not keeping Bernie Parks it's one of. the reasons but he did the right thing. he didn't care about his political. future he cared about the city he never.

gets enough credit for this and I just. learned that lesson which I talked about. earlier if you've got the freedom to. make a decision without worrying about. getting reelected it's probably where. the president's head is I'm just going. to do what I think is. right it really is amazing what can. happen so let's get more people like. that who just. understand let's do what's right for. people I'm in public service serve the. damn people it almost seems like at this.

point you need someone who's outside of. politics to to run for office I think. you do because everybody I know that. sounds self- serving but I think you do. it of course it would sound self-serving. coming from someone who wants you're. outside of it want to be the mayor but. it's I think that's the correct response. because the people that are in it are. just too tied in you're just they're too. tied in to they're too beholding they're. too beholding it's just it entwined the. octopus has many tentacles yeah and it's.

wrapped around everything and it just. stalls all progress and change and no no. real radical change can ever be meant. because no one wants to go with it. because it's going to disrupt all their. different ideas and businesses and and. people are going to look like they're. responsible or incompetent so they don't. want change they want to pretend that. this is the only way to go forward right. and that if someone does come along and. changes things radically I mean it makes. them all look terrible and it's it's. dangerous yep it's dangerous for. business Yep they're they're not in the. business of helping people they're in.

the business of keeping their job 100%. yeah and that's what's gross it is. really gross it's gross and it seems. like the only way that that ever gets. resolved is you have to bring in someone. who's a businessman or a businesswoman. someone who understands business who's. outside of this political system and. says I've studied this for years there's. a lot of things that could be fixed and. they're not being done and we could do. it yeah and you know the issue with that. is. it it's such a tough system there's so.

much that gets thrown at you yeah like. the whole entire party of the Democrats. came to go after you I know and I a. Democrat I'm very moderate yeah you know. I'm fiscally very conservative I'm. socially. liberal but they were so you know what. gives the incentive to the person on the. outside to do it right nothing and. that's what we've got to figure out. listen I I've got high for San Francisco. with their new mayor again an outsider.

came in and won I think that's great I. hope he does great I hope he City that. place was amazing at one point in time I. used to love going to San Francisco I. haven't gone in a years just too crazy. no it's terrible it's a dump it's. unbelievable that one of the greatest. cities in the country has just. completely Fallen to but no course. correction until now I'm I'm hopeful for. this new mayor as well and I'm also. hopeful that a lot of the new Young tech. people are fed up yeah you know I think.

the new people who grew up with the. internet understand the corruption and. the [ __ ] whereas the old people from. couple decades ago were really just. spoonfed [ __ ] from the mainstream. media and they thought that this is the. only way to be like we're we're the kind. intelligent well- read Progressive. people on the west coast it's our. responsibility to be compassionate you. know and to be the most charitable. people possible and they just didn't. realize like you're you're not doing. anybody a service by letting them camp. out in front of your house and smoke. meth that's not none of that's good.

that's right it's all real bad for them. it's all real bad for your kids Y and. all those business moved out yes all. those businesses moved out San Francisco. just became insane watching all these. enormous chains just pull out and then. people get angry and cry racism when. they pull out like what are you doing. you're how do you it's just from the. outside it's like moving to Texas was. such an eye opener too uh jealous. you know being here in Austin today all.

the new buildings going up yes I said to. my wife oh my God look at this it's. booming it's booming there's Freedom go. to a restaurant last night and people. are happy having a great time and. there's new buildings going up and. highrises and the city's clean. everywhere I drove around last night. today just Immaculate but it's also you. know I talked to Stephen Adler who was. the former mayor of Austin great guy and. you know he was explaining to me the. homeless situation we had a long talk. about about it cuz it really boomed. during po co uh and he was saying look.

LA's too big I think I can fix the. problem in Austin and they did an. enormous how did they they did a. fantastic job they bought a bunch of. hotels they put people up they started. programs they they put a lot of effort. into it but they were only dealing with. a few thousand homeless people they had. like 3,000 like that's and this is what. stepen Adler was saying he was saying. you could fix that you can't fix it when. it gets to 80,000 90,000 he's like it. just gets too big with the bureau.

bureaucratic process like as Government. functions today without the outsider. coming in and making radical change the. way it functions today he's. like this is too big he goes I think I. can fix Austin and I think I can fix. Austin before I get out and I think he. did a great job there's still problems. you're always going to have problems. cities you're going to have mentally ill. people you're going to have drug addicts. yeah you're going to have people that. have just been abused their whole life. and they're just destroyed mentally and. then they're out and then you have. schizophrenia and all these other yeah.

it's very sad it's very sad you know we. clearly need better mental health. institutions uh set up in this country. to deal with a lot of these people. because that's a lot of it and a lot of. it happened during the Regan. Administration when they changed the. they closed them down yes they closed. down mental health institutes and just. said you're on your own and just let. these people loose on the street and. then you on top of that you have the. crack epidemic that comes around at the. same time it's like chaos full chaos and. you saw like I saw the changes in in the.

cities I saw the changes in the news I. saw you know and and people were. recognizing that this is like a new a. new problem but it's never been like Los. Angeles where you're driving on the. street you just see blocks and blocks of. tents it's just like how is this not. fixed you're not even allowed to litter. so if you're not allowed to litter how. are you allowed to do that there's. definitely a couple of standards that. are different I I'm not giving up that.

it can be fixed though and I understand. there's a big difference with solving. for 3,000 versus 880,000 whatever the. number is but it can be fixed because it. has to be fixed I think it has to be. fixed by an outsider is what well point. was ultimately really is like you know. being in the system I agree with that. there's no doubt it has to and and again. somebody that's willing to risk their. political career by doing the right. thing for the people on the street these. are human beings that have a right to be. given a chance to have a better life and.

a lot of people are there you know just. cuz everything went wrong in their life. and God bless them and you got to try to. to fix it and and the waste of the money. in doing it is a crime anyway we've. talked about it but I'm I'm still. hopeful I know I run overly optimistic. in life but I think it can be done well. it's worked out well for you well I've. been pretty fortunate and blessed in my. life so. working hard and being overly optimistic.

actually works out sometimes a lot of. times yeah um okay so so let's talk. about Law and Order um that that's a a. giant issue in Los Angeles people do not. feel um as safe as they used to feel. they feel like there's more violent. crime there's more unreported crime and. maybe more concerning is that people get. arrested then immediately get released. right and there doesn't seem to be any. repercussions for that right so what. would you do to change that well thank. goodness state law got changed I mean.

that's another really good example of. what happened in California they. repealed the law that allowed anything. under $900 to just be a misdemeanor it. was Insanity Insanity just insanity and. they weren't bundled so you could like. in a Syrian and fashion keep stealing. $900 right every hour right yeah as long. pop it was still a Mis meter so that law. changed great ress um. holding bad people accountable is really.

important I'm also a big believer to. give people a chance to rebuild their. lives no doubt goes hand in. hand but um we made a big change by. getting rid of George gascon as our. district attorney who was not. Prosecuting and allowing people it was. just a Turn Style you got arrested you. were let out what we get to the heart of. that sure what's the motivation for that. motivation for doing that yes that well.

I probably won't explain it right. because I don't I don't agree with it is. that from a social justice standpoint. quote. unquote um you don't want to. overpopulate the prisons you don't want. to hold people and take away their life. for a minor crime um but a lot of it. wasn't minor crimes a lot of it was a. minor CRI there was one of them that was. a guy who was this crazy homeless guy. who pulled a knife on a sheriff and then. and two weeks later there at least. somewhere a little short time after that.

I don't know if it's was two weeks. attacked a man with his family with a. machete on the beach yeah no I know. you're right you're right I mean that's. a violent Geor did yeah you're right. you're absolutely right and I can't. explain it because it just it's so. messed up I I don't even know how you. justify letting somebody out of jail or. not holding them with baale any of that. I don't understand it I think most. people got to the point they were so. worried about where crime was going they. did finally get rid of George and we.

brought in Nathan Hawkman and I think. Nathan's doing a great. job so I I I can't I can't explain it. but but the fear is that it's done on. purpose this is the fear oh of course it. is that's the fear the the the great. fear is that there are people in this. world that want LA and major cities in. this country to be in complete disarray. to have constant chaos and and to be. able to push liberal prosecutors and. then push even more liberal prosecutors.

to go against them and continue this. cycle and make it so that people live in. a constant state of fear and what's the. end goal of that it has to be profit I. mean someone has to be profiting off of. it who profits off of that I don't know. ask George Soros yeah right ask the. people that fund these like extremely. liberal district attorneys that all seem. to have the same idea do you think that. Cas I do I do think that TI is turning. and I know that El musk wants to do sort. of the exact opposite like to try to fin.

he's been talking about that financing. people that are much more reasonable and. that believe in Law and Order well. Nathan is a good example of that I mean. that's great we need Fair laws we need. we need kind Justice we need we do need. Rehabilitation but we also need to. protect people that aren't criminals of. course but that's the primary thing it's. protect the general public Serve and. Protect right that's the whole idea we. need to protect everybody else and then. the people that were life did them wrong. and theyve wound up like let's figure. out a way to actually rehabilitate them.

instead of just putting them in cages. yeah and people are doing that I mean. there's some very successful programs. that are doing that but I agree with you. I mean we got to get back to the point. where government's primary function is. to protect the public and give them the. ability to prosper give them the ability. to build a business raise your family. keep your community safe it's just so. basic but it's so basic it's gone upside. down yeah it's that's what's crazy is. that law order thrown out the window. without Law and Order No One Is Safe you.

understand that if you just don't go. after bad people then they have no fear. of doing whatever they want and then. you're letting them out on jail so out. of jail so then you've got more of them. out than ever before perpetua there was. a podcast that I listened to where there. was a former gang member who is talking. about how they're going to let 70,000. hard criminals out of the LA jails and. he's like I'm getting out of town this. guy was a hardcore gang member like La. is going to get too crazy in the next. year it's just nuts and you know there.

was the whole defund the police movement. which was just catastrophic that that. whole and seeing politicians including. KLA Harris seeing politicians openly say. and posted on Twitter we need to defund. the police which is just crazy it is as. wrong as it can be yeah certainly hold. bad cops accountable certainly have. better training certainly have higher. standards. but defunding the police like what are. you talking about you need to do the.

opposite right you need to train them. better refund. them definitely make the bad ones. accountable definitely make people feel. safe that they're interacting with. police officers but respect these people. respect these people that are protecting. your life that's right cuz all those. people when something goes down and they. call 911 they're Furious when cops don't. show up that's right all these people. that talk [ __ ] about the cops that are. protected defund the police you're. protected by armed security people. people right and you're saying defund. the police this is [ __ ] nonsense it's.

nonsense I couldn't agree more and for. people that suffered because of this. defund the police thing and this whole. wave of crime that went through La you. know in in the wake of it all you know. those people are the people that you can. get to MH the the people that saw it. experienced it know the consequences of. this foolish direction that everything. is going in those are the people that. you can still reach and I think it could. be reached with a person like you that. is a compassionate kind liberal guy when.

it comes to social issues but. understands business and understands. like accountability and that you have to. you have to see positive results you. have to do what needs to be done to get. those positive results you can't just do. the same [ __ ] over and over again and. pay more people and we need a bigger. budget you know like oh let's raise the. we've increased the budget to fix the. problem that's you're not fixing it. keeps getting bigger that's right it's. just. nuts it needs someone outside the system. and that's why I was really happy to.

talk to you and that's why I'm really. happy that you're still involved because. a lot of people like yourself that are. very wealthy and you don't have to do. this this is it's not going to be you're. not going to make money doing this like. this is probably going to be a huge. strain a a tremendous amount of pressure. but some people feel it calling and they. feel like I think I can do something and. fix this that other people maybe won't. be able to do I appreciate that and I do. I do because. what's the alternative we we stay on the. same path it gets worse the alternative.

is it gets worse it's going to get worse. and more and more people are leaving. more and more businesses closed down but. here's what really hit me on the. campaign and I was telling the our. family I've got four kids and they're 35. to 25 and just incredible people and my. wife is wonderful I'm really incredibly. blessed with all of that I was so. worried when I decided to run for May. the impact on the family right a little. bit scary hyp profile all these kind of. things it ended up being the greatest.

experience and we would go into. neighborhoods hardworking neighborhoods. of people that just wanted the ability. to work hard and live their life that. would just want the ability to allow. their daughter to be able to walk to. school on her own and not have to walk. around an encampment or for fear that. there'd be somebody that would attack. her on the way to school right the most. basic things. and you we'd give them a hug you know. they would cry we would cry and I would.

tell the kids that cry is Hope and what. we're seeing there is for the first time. there's actually somebody coming into. their neighborhood a neighborhood that. historically doesn't vote in large. chunks so the politicians forget about. them right because they're not likely. voters necessarily but we were trying to. mobilize it and we were also trying to. give a voice to people that don't have a. voice how inspiring that was for me.

that's what fueled me and you're right I. I don't want a career as a. politician I want a career of being able. to give back and help and and and take. the group of people that have the least. voice but are some of the hardest. working people of our society and give. them an opportunity to grow that was my. grandfather as an immigrant as a. gardener but he had the opportunity to.

raise his family where he didn't have to. worry about all this [ __ ] it's just. changed so much so I believe we've got. to get our elected officials if we take. people who are the hardest working the. dearest people that have the. most impact because of crime because of. homelessness because of being overly. taxed all of these kind of things things. and we give them hope and a path forward.

everybody benefits from it yeah you. start solving so many problems Joe. there's a little. school in the middle. of the the the heart of the worst part. of Los Angeles with the with the. homelessness in skid and it's called. paralos. ninos and my wife and I have been. supporting that school for over 30 years. now you outside the doors is the biggest. see of inhumanity of homeless people. just strewn out on the street drugged.

out all terrible mental health. conditions you open that door and it's. beautiful and caring and loving and this. school that we support there's a series. of schools takes in children from 6. months to 5 years. old the parents are all working parents. below the poverty line working parents. so they're working in the sweat shops. whatever the case may be they're living. down on skon apartments two or three. families in an.

apartment working their tail off to just. survive and then to be able to get their. child in the school that cost them. nothing it's fully supported those are. the dearest sweetest children in the. world we love going down there our kids. have worked down there since they were. little kids we do a Christmas party for. them and what gives us such Joy is. seeing the Hope in their eyes and I know. it sounds corny. but it's such an important path that. we've got to get our elected officials. to be more supportive of that and get.

more of these kind of schools and give. more of these families the opportunity. to do well because they want to do well. but the system is frankly against them. and that's what I wanted to change more. than anything well let's talk about that. this this school there's no reason why. they should have to encounter that. environment outside that school you're. right there's no reason that's this is. not nuclear waste this this is not. something that can't be cleaned up for 5. million years we have to leave it alone. this is human beings this is human human.

Devastation out there in the street the. fact that these kids have to encounter. that first of all what does that do for. your sense of hope and your your future. of the world like this is what you're. seeing every day like you you you absorb. that from your environment the the the. the sadness and the devastation all. around you and you're seeing people with. lost lives out in the street right in. front of your school when you're a young. kid you're developing mind and that's. the environment that you encounter all. the time like that is going to [ __ ] your.

head up forever yeah it's very tough and. then there's the question of the sweat. shops like why why why how come people. that work their tail off constantly have. to live three four families in in an. apartment like what the hell is going on. there I I agree yeah but that's what. that's what I'm saying that's what I. think we got to start fixing yes right. and if you start fixing that now. your point is right these kids having to. see that every day they're being yelled.

at you know by people as they're walking. through the doors and all that it's. terrible but thank God that school is. there because if that school wasn't. there they have nothing they got nothing. right they're on the street you it's. amazing but I mean the problem outside. the school that should be fixed that. should be a public health issue I mean. if you're. wor the future human beings uh if if you. want to look at this country country and. you want to make America a great place. what you want is less people that going. to lose at life you want less losers the.

the best chance you can have less losers. is start them off on a good path when. they're young that's right and well said. if you're starting them off on a good. path when they're young if you're giving. them the tools that they need to have a. successful Life Giving Them hope giving. them examples of good people that you. could strive to be like like what would. Mike do I I probably want to do what he. does he would get up and get this done. and you know I I admire that person and. having people around you that are.

examples of someone who lives a life. that you admire and they when you're. just seeing people peeing on themselves. and throwing up and walking through the. the the the streets just covered in. cardboard shelters and Tents like that's. not hope you're not going to see you're. not seeing good examples so what do you. depending on for your. examples that that's a travesty that. should be cleaned up. immediately so let's talk about that. what could be done for skid row which is.

probably the worst example of LA's. homeless problem it's the same thing. with any any place else that we talked. about you you have to I believe. supercharge these organizations like. aoro ninos that are doing well that are. really changing lives like the downtown. women Center like common concern there's. Union Rescue Mission there's dozens up. there where do you put all those people. you got all these people on the streets. you you got 100,000 people in the. streets there's endless land there's. endless Land.

We the city of Los Angeles has something. like over three or 400 Parcels of land. that are vacant they're just sitting. there. vacant densify them build on them build. housing absolutely do it Skid Row. there's a lot of opportunity to do that. and a lot of organizations that will do. that but we we can never say well create. Enterprise zones I mean I wanted to. create Enterprise zes you go to South La. or whatnot there's areas that they were.

burned out years ago from the riots that. have never been rebuilt create an. Enterprise Zone give tax incentives to. go down there and build. housing the tax code when I was a young. lawyer they changed all the tax laws. they had a lot of tax credits a lot of. incentives to do things it's a it's a. great way to incentivize businesses. mobilize the private financial markets. to invest and do things this an enormous. amount of capital in this country we're. the wealthiest country in the world. especially la la is so wealthy State of.

California fifth largest economy in the. world we have an economy larger than. India it's nuts it's nuts and do we have. problems of course can you imagine if we. fixed the problems what this state could. do it would be incredible there's. nothing like it and so I think we just. have to have some really basic. goals of how we're going to change.

things little by little start attacking. them but start getting people off the. streets start building start giving the. incentives to do it break some eggs as. you're doing it because you're saving. lives and I think once you get that in. motion it starts taking off I really do. because people do not want to continue. the way we're continuing and if there's. a handful of people that do who cares. God bless him yeah leave them there but. that's not the far majority of the.

people I think those handful of people. are fed a narrative and the narrative is. there's one way that's good and there's. one way that's evil yeah and there's the. right-wing people that want to be fous. totalitarian dictators and they just. want the wealthy to get wealthier and. they want the poor to starve and then. you have the left-wing side that has. this idea of Compassionate Care and. letting everybody be themselves and let. people camp out and let you know and we. we need to treat people like human.

beings and they're not homeless they're. the unhoused and you start reframing. things and it's just a bunch of nonsense. and unfortunately these people are all. conditioned to think that everybody. opposed to them hates civil rights hates. women's rights hates gay rights and. they're they're right-wing. hardcore fascist [ __ ] yeah what we. need is someone this is one of the. things made me happy about you is that. you need someone who appeals to people's. sense of kindness and caring and you.

know being a progressive person in terms. of like social issues right but yet. understands human nature and understands. business like that you you have to do. things if you want to change things you. can't just throw money at it you can't. just have a bunch of people that are. just bullshitting and not getting. anything done and this is the problem. with LA that we see. well there's there's no doubt but it but. don't you think that is changing though.

right we've talked about that I think. it's changing I think it's changing La. will snap right back to the old way I. mean if you just give them a couple of. good years they'll they'll be convinced. that you know we got to fight that good. fight though Joe we got to fight that. good fight there's too much at risk. there is too much at risk I I do I do. think it all really depends on how. successful Trump is in this four years. that he has and theu that he sets up and. how he can kind of if if it really shows. people that hey guess what gay people.

aren't losing rights hey guess what. women aren't losing rights hey guess. what civil rights aren't being eroded. this is not what's happening and then. the whole country benefits if we see GDP. go up if we see I agree homelessness. jobless joblessness go down that would. be amazing if that happens then maybe. people could wake their mind up to the. fact that you're not in this binary. system and that you really shouldn't be. a part of a team you should be a part of. Team America and Team America is like we. want the whole thing to be better.

everybody all of us wouldn't that be. great it would be amazing it's it can be. done it can be done it can be most. people I think are reasonable kind. people most people yes but I think. people get trapped in ideologies and. California is one of the better examples. of a place that's just trapped de you're. either a Democrat or you're a [ __ ]. [ __ ] like that's that's how you look. at it you know oh God that's how people. look at it yeah I think there's a lot of. that there's a lot of that I I'm a. little bit more again I I run a little.

bit more optimistic in the in the faith. of my fellow angelinos and Californians. that I think there's a real desire to. make significant change I really do I'm. hearing a lot of that even from some of. my most liberal. friends they they want change oh yeah. well you can push people up to a point. yeah yeah yeah now I do think think the. success of trump is going to have a big. influence on that and so especially in.

California you know because you know. they the majority is very leery right. and Los Angeles very leery of that and. if he could do more of what he did that. day at that press conference out on the. Palisades it would be great because he. did show a compassion he he did show a. strength he showed that what he cared. about was the people getting back in. their homes and let's take care of them. he showed an impatience with the.

bureaucracy that was you know they were. spinning it boy the elected officials. that day and he was pushing back on it. yeah very professionally very nicely. but's much better at handling people. this time around I think he sort of. corrected a lot of the way he used to. communicate with people and he's much. more even and measured yeah it's much. more effective I agree I was impressed. and like I said earlier he's a builder.

he's a successful Builder and I would. love to him to give a little BL. blueprint to the city of La and say you. know here's the 10 things you need to do. yeah and it should only take I mean. that's what we're doing this New. Foundation I launched with a bunch of. really smart thought leaders in Industry. um have come together we launched it. yesterday just to go tackle problems. don't don't tell me what the problem is. without the solution you know I just. live by that and there is a solution to. every problem it may not be the solution.

you want but there's a solution out. there so work towards it and I'll give. you an example you know I've been. pushing since the fires we've got to. underground all the power lines you. can't will rebuild the Palisades or. Altadena the way it was built 70 years. ago right it'd be insane it's insane so. underground the power lines redo the. water mains redo the fight higher. fighing system blah blah blah and I get. this push back we don't have the money. we don't have the time you just had the.

largest urban disaster in the history of. the United States $250 billion doll. worth of damage and you're telling me. you don't have the money to do the right. thing didn't we just have the largest. infrastructure bill in history passed. about a year ago we must have the money. and we'll find the money but that can't. stop you from doing what's right so. this organization I put together is to. go be the advocate for those homeowners.

to be the advocate for those business. people that lost their businesses and. work alongside government and say listen. we'll solve the problem for you and hand. the blueprint to you so going to hold. you accountable to implement it what is. the answer when they say we don't have. the money if you have California which. is just insanely enormous economy yeah. so and very high tax rate but one of the. highest that's right so you have high. taxes so you have an enormous economy. that means you got a lot of money right.

so where's the money going where the. money's gone I can't tell you you know. we used to have a surplus in California. now we have a deficit so if that happens. at your home or my home that means we. mismanaged our money it's pretty simple. yeah. um in solving the problem for the. Palisades or Al toena on the electric. issues or the infrastructure issues. listen the city has bonding Authority. Department of Water and Power has. bonding Authority there's federal grants. there's state grants there's private.

Capital we're going to go solve that and. give some answers to the city but my. point is the answer can't be let's not. do what's right we've done enough of. that the answer has to be we're going to. go do this and now we're going to solve. how to pay for it and we're going to do. it quickly to get people back in their. homes and start building again and I. believe we can bend the curve if. somebody thinks it's going to take five. years let's go figure out how we get it.

done in two years this is where private. Enterprise needs to come in and help the. government because the government alone. can't fix this problem it's too big they. work too slow you need Innovation and. Entrepreneurship that private Enterprise. brings we saw that in Co with project. warp speed and getting uh the medicines. that were needed at the time we saw it. at 911 on getting the rebuilding done. done and we need to implement the same. thing in Los Angeles to get the city. rebuilt because it's an impact on the.

American economy to have the size of two. Manhattans two Manhattans that's how big. it is can you imagine that that's insane. 14 15,000 structures it's so hard for. people to imagine that I just went back. like I I was telling you I was there a. couple weeks ago for the UFC yeah and. you know you you see it and when you're. flying over it just doesn't even makes. sense yeah and we see we showed the the. Drone footage as well of the pales I. mean it doesn't make sense it's so much.

Devastation Al Gone Gone Gone which is. and you know Altadena uh my friend Jimmy. door was just talking about this the. other day in a video it was this. beautiful like nice neighborhood oh. Treeline streets and yeah cottage homes. deer sweet neighborhood it was and gone. yeah gone one of the nice neighborhoods. like a beautiful neighborhood to. drive-thru yeah. it's gone and those people mostly Joe as. you know so many of them there's no.

safety net right I mean very moderate. income right you know working class. hardworking class people um and I was. I've been telling all the elected. officials you got to have programs that. start supporting people because they are. down and out they have nowhere to go and. we we've got to do something to help. them you know dayto day to. live one of one of the the things that. was bothering me was they were talking. about replacing all those beautiful. streets that were filled with single.

family homes with uh big apartment. buildings M and then it would just ruin. that area can't do it yeah can't do it. it's wrong yeah this is not the time to. be reimagining anybody's neighborhood. off the backs of the devastation and the. pain I've been really vocal about that. and this is you know this is the creep. you get what you're talking about. this social justice well now let's say. in the Palisades let's start building a.

whole bunch of low-income housing I'm. all for low-income housing I'm building. Workforce housing for our employees that. are low income because I want to make. sure they have a home so I'm all into. that but now is not the time to do it in. a neighborhood that's been. devastated and there's also you're going. to have people that won't be able to. move back to their neighborhood because. they may not be wealthy but they may. make more money than what is required to.

move into a lowincome apartment they. can't move back don't do that that's not. fair if you want to do that what I've. told the elected officials is provide an. incentive not a. requirement if you build some lowincome. units in in an apartment building you're. replacing we oh let me back up so we. have this crazy law in the city of Los. Angeles. crazy law in the city of Los Angeles is. something to this effect I may not get. it exactly. right if you tear down an existing.

apartment building that's market rate. you have to replace it with low-income. housing okay I think all of it maybe. it's not all of it I think it's the. majority of it but whatever the number. is. okay my point is when you do that you. provide a disincentive to reinvest in. the city yeah yeah so let's turn it. around and provide an incentive say if. you close knock it down and rebuild or.

it's burned down in the. Palisades and want to rebuild then give. a bonus density and allow that person to. build more to compensate them for. providing housing that is low income. right just seems to be more fair. everybody get you do that how's that how. does that work well let's say you have a. 12 unit apartment building that burnt. down in the Palisades instead of. acquiring lowincome housing for let's. say 20 30 40% of it say instead of.

building 12 we're going to let you build. 20 units and out of the 20 units give us. six units that are low-income housing. whatever the numbers are but let's have. governments start thinking about an. incentive based system right I. mean you look at your life or my life or. the people that work here the harder you. work the more that you do you're more. rewarded right you're not required to. work harder you're incentivized to work. harder or work smarter and I think if we.

build that kind of thinking into. government to provide Capital to provide. investment especially on the rebuilding. you can have some social policies that. are very important and very good like. lowincome what I would even say is why. don't we why don't we give an incentive. to build Workforce housing in the. Palisades and. Altadena where the work Force housing. goes to the First Responders. firefighters um police and teachers so.

now you can have firefighters police and. teachers living in the neighborhoods. they're serving as you know La is so. expensive most of the cops drive two. hours to get home and two hours to get. to work same with the firefighters you. want them to be in the neighborhood they. serve that's a great public policy do it. around an incentive especially in a. place like the Pacific Palisades I think. people deeply resent the idea of being. forced to have any kind of low-income. housing the idea is that it's hard to.

live in the Palisades it's expensive. it's beautiful it's a incredible piece. of land or it was yeah before the fires. devastated it it was a glorious place to. live like it was very difficult to. afford to live there so the people that. made the most money were the ones who. could buy the homes there they don't. want someone to open up low-income. housing in the same neighborhood that's. very difficult to live in the whole idea. is that you make enough money where you. could live in a place that's very. difficult to live in but it's beautiful. and it's really safe and that's what the.

Palisades was they don't want this to be. replaced with low-income housing they. don't want incentives for it to be. replaced with low-income housing yeah I. don't know Joe I think there's people I. think there's a lot of people that would. be very excited to have Workforce. housing especially if you tie your. Workforce housing into First Responders. and I think there's people that would. allow different though that's different. than apartment. buildings Even build even in an. apartment setting I think it can work I.

mean listen I think there's people in. the Palisades that would very much. welcome affordable housing low-income. housing I I certainly wouldn't I'm a big. land owner in the. Palisades but what I don't like about it. is the requirement right off the backs. of people who have lost everything right. that's just not right that's not the. time to do it if you want to go rezone. stuff let the place get rebuilt. and let people get back on their feet. and then go have that discussion you. know it's a timing issue uh honor in my.

opinion but listen there's a lot of. issues the city's got to tackle to get. these places rebuilt it's it's immensely. complicated um and again I I I mean I'll. be very honest the government just. cannot do it alone there's just no way. there's just no way one of the things. that people complain a lot about. California is regulations yeah and how. regulated it is and how difficult it is. to start businesses and to maintain. businesses hugely.

overregulation it's insane to run a. business I run a business obviously in. LA and in California and uh it's it's to. the point that you would never I would. never restart the business in LA and in. California it's too expensive the tax. rates are too high for everybody not. just people that are making money I'm. talking about people who are you know. moderate hardworking people tax rates. too high but the regulation on small. businesses in Los Angeles you have.

businesses now closing because of it's. overregulation and then it got even. frankly worse postco because a lot of. the restrictions they took away during. covid in order to allow businesses to. survive and restaurants to operate they. started taking them away like just. having outdoor dining like why would you. do that why would you make it more. difficult for a small business owner to. operate a restaurant. so that gets back to like the business. approach to running government let.

people Prosper have a system there's. certain laws you need obviously to. operate safely and smartly but let have. a system that people can earn money. become successful what's the cause of. over regulation where where how does it. start I don't Joe that's a good question. I I think that there's a group of people. that feel like government is the only. way that Society can be safe and. regulated that uh people left on their. own you know will go crazy and do.

Terrible Things running around the. streets and it's just not the way it. works right capitalism is a really good. system we've proven that and. overregulation starts squeezing. capitalism to the point that it pushes. out people from investing and creating. jobs and creating. opportunity um and La has gotten to the. point it's it's certainly over the. bridge and needs to get pulled back I. mean I can't even tell you how over. regulated it is and then on top of it in.

LA now we have too few. cops and so the obligation to protect. your property is getting pushed to. private land owners so like on our. shopping centers you know we have a very. safe environment friendly environment. family environment all those kind of. things we're very protective of LAPD. wants to do the right thing they don't. have the resources so we've had to. supplement it millions and millions of. dollars of private. security and that's a whole another.

problem because what about the. individual landowner in a neighborhood. that doesn't have the kind of protection. they need and and they don't have the. police force to protect them and running. a business becomes. impossible so and again those things are. just. fixable they really are fixable so. regulations water. Law and Order what what other things are. are giant issues about La that you think.

need to be. addressed well I think we have to on the. positive side I want to be more business. friendly I want to I want to invite. businesses back to California I want to. invite businesses back to LA that's a. tough sell I know I want to get Elon. back to LA I don't want him to leave La. I've told him that you know and I think. he would come back I think all these. businesses would come back sure if it. was reasonable if it was Reon they. didn't leave because it was awesome.

that's that's what people have to I. didn't leave because it was awesome. right I left because I just didn't want. this group of people that I thought were. an EP telling me what to do of course. and they gave you in a weird way they. gave you the incentive to leave and not. the incentive to stay yes I want to give. people the incentive to stay start your. business grow your business raise your. family let's protect you clean the. streets you know all of those basic. things are really important and again. Joe maybe I'm overly optimistic in it.

but it can come back and I think. California if Unleashed is just a mighty. Powerhouse it could really change the. direction of this whole country The. Innovation that we have in California. the technical knowledge what's happening. in our universities some of the best in. the world what's happening in the tech. field with AI it's all based here in. California and you got to let that. flourish you know set the platform. that's encouraging these youngest. brightest Minds to come here and start.

your business right and and do the right. thing and to you made the point you're. absolutely right I've talked to a lot of. the tech. people of you know they want a different. leadership that is supporting the growth. of Technology that's going to change the. world it's going to happen. somewhere it's we saw it happen in China. with their new AI company and we better. be prepared to be the best at it and we.

have to provide the platform to do that. so in order to incentivize. people if they wanted to come back to. California you you've got these enormous. taxes like some so something has to be. done on a state level not just on a city. level that's right to address that so. how do you address that yeah you should. have competitive tax rates I don't know. why California needs to tax people much. higher. than any other state why would you the. cost of operating a state you know. you've got very sophisticated States.

very dense States it's a matter of. setting priorities and we've got to look. at the tax code and make it fair we've. got the highest. gas uh cost in the country why does a. gallon of gas in California cost more. than a gallon gas wasn't that because in. California you're required to sell gas. that's refined in California I don't. know if that's the case see if that's. the case Jamie but I know I I think the. I think the gas in California is also. highly taxed of course why wouldn't they. it's taxes based this is the question.

though Rick is like where's all this. money going if you got this insanely. High tax rate but yet you don't have any. money to fix the power lines you got. this insane insanely High tax rate but. you can't clean up the homeless problem. you and even though you're throwing a. lot of money on it where's that money. going I don't know it's not going to the. school system they need to get these. super nerds that are top of this. department of government efficiency and. set them loose set them loose on. California we've got a lot of smart. people in California along with them. that you know really want to help the.

system and I think the minute you bring. some really smart people this is what I. did with this Foundation you look at the. list of people that are donating their. time and talent they just brilliant. people I made one phone call to each of. them would you give me your time and. talent I don't want a dollar from you. yes I'm in whatever it is I'm in. and that's what we need to do more of is. have the elected officials have the. courage and the competency to reach out.

and get the smartest people in different. Industries to come in and help get their. ideas and then Implement them that's. that's the greatest form of government. whether you're a Republican or a. Democrat it doesn't really matter if you. got great ideas and if you're a big. thinker that's what I would do what I am. doing so but on a state level like the. taxes for the state that that would have. to be addressed by the governor right. the governor and the legislature yeah.

yeah what could be done about that I. think you've got to you've got to. rebuild it um Joe I I don't want to give. you a specific proposal here but it. doesn't need to be as high as it is in. order to operate the state of California. if the state of California has their. priorities right at what they're. spending money on and by the way the. best way and we learned this from Reagan. to raise revenue for the government is. to allow businesses and families to grow. and create jobs in. Industries not to suppress them right so.

the minute you keep over taxing people. all you're doing is giving people the. incentive to leave which we've seen. right The. Exodus if you start giving people a rate. that allows them to be benefited by. staying in the state of California that. business will grow and California is. going to make more. Revenue rocket science Logic the economy. grows people have more money better for. everybody and you get some jobs you get. people off the streets yeah you know. this whole thing starts changing the.

dynamic how great would that be it would. be pretty incredible I just don't want. to get my hopes up let's do it don't no. come on don't leave. me leave I think it's possible it's just. just a daunting task it is a daunting. task but okay I'm not throwing flowers. at you look at what you've accomplished. in your career that was a daunting task. yeah but I didn't think about it I just. it just sort of lucked out it wasn't. luck whatever it was a little bit of. luck everybody's got a little bit of. luck for sure it was a hell of a lot of.

hard work and you were very focused and. you had your head down you just kept. going forward so it can be done I. couldn't do what you did yeah you could. no oh no your St I couldn't do can in. fact I just want to go into tangent for. a second. sure okay my boys got me addicted to. taking an ice. bath. okay you're insane I what what's the. temperature of yours 34 oh my God okay I. I I saw a picture of you removing a. sheet of ice yeah yeah I I'm I'm nowhere.

near the stud that you are obviously. it's not that hard it's just 3 minutes. and it makes the rest of day 50 I'm I'm. 50 is cold yeah and I I'm addicted to it. yeah how long you in for three minutes. you'll still get the benefits at 50 okay. what I get at 30 is much more suck and. getting through the suck is part of it. is how long is the suck it sucks for. about a minute yeah the first minute the. first minute really sucks yeah that's. with me at 50 yeah I heavy breathing I.

got some stem cells shot into my. shoulder recently and when I do that you. have to take like 72 hours because the. the actual the inflammation is actually. good from the initial injection to heal. the area and so I took three days off. and it's funny just taking three days. off when you get back in the suck is. worse yeah but it doesn't for me it. doesn't get any easier though it doesn't. after the first minute no no no no no. like oh every day every day yeah it gets. a little easier it never gets easy but. it gets a little it's like it's easier.

now like 3 day like now I'm like four or. five days in it's like so when I pop the. lid off of it I just I don't even think. about it I just go get in there yeah. just shut up put the timer on get in. there just sit yeah just sit there I do. love it but the thing about it is the. way you feel when you get out is so. amazing you feel alive you feel. energized you feel like your brain is. firing all your end it kicks up your. dopamine levels by 200% it lasts for.

hours and hours you feel wonderful and. that's the thing it's like we need to. delay gratitude you need to delay these. this people like to like feel. comfortable now you need to delay that. put that on the side I like that just. suck it up for a while and doing that. forcing yourself to have voluntary. adversity just like have three a day. that's horrible is going to make the. whole rest of your day better yeah it's. only 3 minutes how much time you spent. on Instagram just flipping through.

nonsense just looking at [ __ ]. getting upset at Twitter going on. Twitter what are these people talking. about like three minutes it's addicting. to me I'm a I never thought I would be. addicted to it I love it I love it and. the other thing I love which I heard you. do is the infrared yeah I do that too I. do that today yeah I do it every day. yeah I love it oh you you're talking. infrared sauna I do a red light bed. every day I do a regular sauna a dry. sauna because I think there's more. research that's been done particularly.

at a Finland you know they did a 20year. study where they showed a 40% decrease. in all cause mortality for people who. use the sauna four days a week really. yeah more than an infrared just a. oldfashioned dry not more than an. infrared I think like infrared is. definitely beneficial I think the whole. idea is heat shock proteins the whole. idea is raising your body temperature to. the point where your body develops these. heat chock proteins in order to mitigate. the effects of the extreme heat because.

you can really only tolerate that. extreme heat for a certain amount of. time a regular dry sauna gets way hotter. so my sauna I like to keep it at 196 so. I get in there at 196 for 25 minutes wow. and it's not fun it's not fun it sucks. but that stress of doing that is what. makes your body stronger it's the. response your body's response to that. extreme stress that makes it stronger. and this is what develops the heat shock. proteins and this is what uh is.

responsible for this there's a an EPO. like effect on on your blood where you. have more red blood cells it it raises. your endurance it's like a like almost. like static uh cardio even though you're. sitting there uh you know I wear a heart. rate monitor sometimes when I'm in there. and my heart's jacked up to 147 beats a. minute at the end I mean it's pretty. high at the end when you're hitting that. 21 minute Mark and you're looking at. your watch going oh Jesus Christ four. more minutes of this [ __ ] and then how's. your is your recovery quick once you get.

out your heart rates down I'm so used to. it but another benefit is living in. Texas uh when I go out in the heat in. the sun it doesn't bother me at all my. body's fully adapted to being hot you. know it's just it's hot every day and. this just that's again it's just. voluntary adversity it's forcing. yourself to do something physically and. it makes the rest of your day way easier. Okay so you should get into politics. voluntary. adversity volunt adversity I would way. rather have people like you on and try.

to help you out then then get involved I. appreciate that I'm grateful for that. zero interest in getting involved myself. is this where your interest end though. is it just mayor stuff or do you ever. look bigger than that I don't know you. know right now honestly I was looking at. a lot of couple of different options um. and then when January 7th hit with the. fire the world sort of stopped. and I want to spend a lot of time right. now trying to get it rebuilt there's. going to be time for politics for me for. sure um it's probably not right now so.

you think like one day like Governor one. day like maybe president well I don't. you know come on I come on Rick you know. what I want to do I I I look at it and I. don't mean this in a morbid way I I mean. it in a positive way I'm at the I'm sort. of at the back nine of my life right and. I've had an incredible life and so what. can I do like that's really meaningful. at this point and I I enjoy Public.

Service a lot I enjoyed when I worked. for three different mayors and so I do. want to do something at some point but. the question for me is where is the. place that I can do the most good and. and have a good time doing it by the way. because I like having fun um and where. does that intersect and so as time goes. on I'll figure that out and whether it's. the governor whether it's the mayor I'm. not quite sure but um I want to do. something at some point but now I really. want to get the place rebuilt let's.

let's get moving what does that involve. you you wanted to get the place rebuilt. so how long is this uh woman still going. to be the mayor for well she's there for. you know I think about 18 months or so. and she already announced before the. fires she's gonna uh run for re-election. but we'll see how that plays out as a. private citizen it's this group that I. put together that's going to work really. closely pushing the city finding.

Solutions sort of calling out when. they're not doing what they need to be. doing um and I I I'm hopeful that that's. going to be really effective and like I. said bending the curve shortening the. timeline to get people in and that. that's going to take most of my time and. most of my day I got a small Mighty. staff that I hired for it I'm going to. fund it myself um I'm going to use all. the res ources from my company and the. talent we have in the company to help. find answers to rebuild it we got guys.

like you know Joe Londale is a part of. that group one of the biggest thinkers. around they got the head of. Parsons um you know one of the great. gendler architectual firms everybody's. donating time and talent and so we want. to push the needle on this thing and. then politics will come down the road. we'll figure that out well that that. sounds wonderful but it seems to me that. like unless you're at the cockpit unless. you're. you know controlling the direction of. the city yeah it's going to be very hard. to really change things in a meaningful.

way it's it's a it's a good challenge. for sure but I can't I can't change the. leadership that's there now and the. problem is now right right so I got to. figure out how I help the leadership be. successful has the leadership adjusted. their perspective based on this enormous. failure of the fire CU it seems like. politically that's a giant handicap for. them right obviously it was a huge. disaster so yeah in order to get. reelected you have. to give these people some faith that.

you've recognized that you've made some. errors and you're going to do things. different. future I haven't heard that that sounds. crazy yeah but you know I'll be really. honest with you I'm always honest with. you with. everybody when you're a leader and you. weren't around to help prevent the. problem probably highly unlikely you're. going to be able to fix the problem if. that was your judgment yeah right right. so if your judgment was I'm going to go.

out of town when this catastrophic event. is about to hit the city that I'm in. charge of you probably don't have the. judgment to get it fixed I hope I'm. wrong but what I'm going to do whatever. I can to help because the problem is. bigger than the politics and the problem. is bigger than her and the people that. are suffering shouldn't be suffering. because of her or anything that she did. or who she appointed that failed in.

their job we've got to do a. workaround it's the only option I've got. right now and that's what we're going to. do and that's what I'm going to do well. that's very practical um is there. anything else that you would think of. that needs to be discussed about LA and. that you think could be. fixed you know we cover the regulations. what about desalination. absolutely should be done great idea I. tried it when I was ah head of. Department of Water and Power yeah got.

fought by every Environmental Group. there is why do they think we're going. to empty the entire ocean it's crazy. there's so much water right there it's. crazy first of all we're dumping sewage. you know there's tertiary treatment. where water is potable we dump sewage. secondary treatment it's doesn't hurt. the ocean but we're dumping it take it. to tertiary treatment put it back in the. natural underground aquifers and save it.

yeah right I mean the the abundance of. water that goes into the ocean sort of. what you start out with. Dell brilliant absolutely we should be. doing it we should have Dell plants. supporting Los Angeles and big parts of. the Southern California also it creates. jobs it creates jobs you can do it where. it's environmentally safe abs absolutely. and it has it has a redundancy of power. that comes off of it also that's helpful. because we've got a power shortage in.

California absolutely and we got more. and more demand in our grid than we know. how to Supply right now and again back. in the day work as a redundancy of power. well because you you you've got to. generate a lot of power for the Dil when. the Dil is not operating you're still. got an operating power plant there so. you can skew up the operation in order. to have additional energy coming off. your desel. plant okay and you got to build a power. plant to desel because of the amount of.

power it consumes to clean the water and. how much water could be desal like how. much of an impact can that actually have. does it depend upon the size of the. plant and how many depends on the size. of the plant you can yeah depends on the. size of the. plant up though like at various. intervals along the coast and you'd. probably fix the entire I mean californ. could be completely Green Well it listen. it could be but it's also you mix you. mix sources of water like right now in.

La I'll just take La you've got the. aqueduct that's bringing water down that. William mullholland built at the turn of. the century right he was brilliant on. how he did it there isn't one pump it's. all gravity flow that comes down from. Ino County Owens Valley comes down there. was a whole bunch of controversy and. everything but put all of that is sort. of been. fixed that water comes down there's some. water that comes down from the state. there's water that Los Angeles has.

natural ERS we pump. right again if you and then you add. diesel to it then you have one more. Supply that's backing up Supply and then. of course you want to capture rainwater. which we do a terrible job of we let it. go in the ocean we don't capture as much. rain water in Los Angeles as we should. probably not much at. all but even with the. sewage why wouldn't you just spend the. investment and take the treatment and.

put it back in the aquifer and have. clean water yeah it's a it's just a. constant supply all we're doing now is. we're dumping it in the ocean yes it's. very stupid and it's again it's doing. the same thing you've always done and. hoping for a different result yeah what. was the push back from the idea of. desalination plants because there's a. long line of thinkers that should be no. power plants along the coast of. California because of the emissions so. years ago when I was president of. DWP under Tom Bradley's leadership at.

the time converted all the old oil. plants on the coast to gas to be. clean there's better technology now um. you know you can convert those they're. testing out hydrogen and convert them to. hydrogen plants there's a big plant that. DWP built in Utah when I was president. called in Mount power project it was the. cleanest coal burning plant in the. country at the time this is probably you.

know 25 years ago now 30 years ago. they're now testing and converting it to. hydrogen which will be absolutely clean. that's smart right so we need Lally. makes oxygen right yeah we need more the. question is how do you boil water pick. your Source that's what a plant does a. plant boils water creates steam spins a. turbine you got electricity right you. know so whatever kind of fuel you want. we built uh we were Partners in palati. which is the nuclear plant in Arizona we. need more nuclear plants in this country.

right so and I don't know why the. leadership in this state you know hasn't. been aggressive in building more clean. burning plants because we need them. nuclear has a negative stereotype in the. public eye unfortunately because of. Chernobyl Three Mile Island because of. Fukushima. people think nuclear they think disaster. they think terrible waste right you. can't get away from it pollutes the.

ground forever but it can be made very. sa it can be made much safer and much. cleaner and it's not being done because. we're and then also people have to. understand that if you go back to the. cars that were on the road at the time. these nuclear power plants were built. those cars were polluting like crazy you. got a brand new car the emissions are. far less or you get. haveone so like why would we look at the. same old architecture of these like the.

Fukushima On's a prime example that only. had one backup generator the backup. generator went out they were done they. have them now where they can actually. shut them down they have like there's. new designs oh yeah and listen palie. again is probably 20 or 30 years old. it's been an incredibly performing plant. never has had a problem so again this is. where you sort of get into what your. point is get somebody from the outside. who's thinking big who's thinking. outside the box who who wants to change.

the landscape for a for the better way. of having a quality of life and is. willing to think big and you're going to. get kicked in the head sometimes and not. every idea is going to make sense and. work but you only get there if you throw. enough good ideas out on the table that. you figure things out right and so when. you take a look at Los Angeles when you. take a look at California I'm hopeful. that you get leadership that just starts. looking at things differently and will. make some small moves that turns into.

big changes so we'll see I'm again I'm. optimistic about it well I'm optimistic. too I am I mean I we're gonna get you. back there good luck I'm never leaving. Texas. okay fair enough I'll never live in a. big city again I think uh you get too. big it's just people become a burden I. think that there's a psychic aspect to. it you know the just the the mindset of. living in a smaller place is more. relaxed just it just feels better I get.

it know I get that especially raising a. family and yes but I did love living in. LA and lived there for 25 years I loved. it yeah thought it was awesome had a. great time there uh you know I still. miss parts of it I still missed the. comedy store and I still miss you know. there's there's amazing aspects to La. still and there's an amazing group group. of human beings that live in LA still. it's an incredible City but the problem. is everyone knew that it was amazing and.

everyone knew that everybody wanted to. go there and so they just sort of took. everybody for granted yeah and they said. look we'll just tax the [ __ ] out of. these people we they're staying they're. not going anywhere it's California where. you going to go that's right there's. still that attitude by the way yes still. that attitude yeah that's doesn't work. that's what I felt and that's what you. hear from the governor and that's you. you hear from people when they brag. about California you know about instead. of addressing why are people leaving. they talk about how great California is. oh we're kicking ass yeah yeah yeah.

still but not as much as before and. there's a reason you're on a downward. Trend it's it's the government and not. as much as we could yeah not as much as. could well listen Rick uh whatever you. do I wish you the best I really I I do. hope you run for mayor again and I hope. you win this time and I hope you can. enact some of these ideas that you have. CU I think they're very very promising. and I think government needs needs. people like you people from the outside. I really do so thank you very much thank. you very much this is really an honor my. pleasure my honor thank you bye.

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