Joe Rogan Experience #2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day Dr good to see you again my friend. hey it's always great to be here it's. been a. while four years January 8th I no. January 15th was it really yeah long. four years jeez yeah it's been four. years but last time you were here right. uh correct yeah I think the last two of. it was that was so that was like right.

after a couple months after I moved here. moved here yeah yeah so almost exactly. four years yeah crazy. well waiting was great waiting waiting I. mean the time four years waiting to have. another chat with you cuz so much has. gone on since uh last we. met well tell me what's going on well uh. where do you want to start a z anywhere. anywhere uh let's see you know the. family's expanding you know that which. is great all three daughters have uh.

been married and each has a grandchild. which is making me feel old so I've. ramped up stepped up my hormonal. treatment to keep me on edge because I. want to be around a lot longer to take. care of these kids or to be with the. kids they're just 16 months but they're. still fantastic unbelievable I love it. that's great absolutely love it but in. the world that I work in in the medical. Arena uh it's been expanding rapidly uh. the new Administration has a part to. play in it which which is great but even.

before that the number of uh results. that we're having the outcome from uh. TBI PTSD and what have you has been. accelerating uh because of some of our. testing that we do as well as our uh. treatment that uh We've initiated that's. changed since four years ago since last. time what have you added in the last. four years well we've added a lot more. nut Tropic excuse me not. neutrals uh natural products into our. regiment uh you know I spent 16 years.

looking at the science behind things. that can get into the brain and alter. the inflammation that occurs in the. brain the whole premise of everything. that I've been doing for the last 30 day. 30 years has been based upon. inflammation in the brain and the. inflammation is what stops all the. chemistry and why we develop anger and. uh you know problems I don't know if you. saw the article uh which is called. influence of media on the mental health. of America which used to be called the. Trump derangement syndrome but I got so. much backlash from having that title.

people wouldn't read it because of the. title and it talks about how constant. stress from the media Echo Chambers. social media reading all this [ __ ]. uh causes cortisol to go up no doubt and. it shuts down a chemical that protects. your brain called fract talkin and then. it starts dumping all this inflammation. and causes loss of Serotonin so you. become more depressed it causes loss of. melatonin so you can't sleep generates. another group of chemicals that induce. depression and yeah essentially.

generates this response in your body. that prepares itself for a fight that. never takes place correct and then. you're always thinking you're about to. get into some sort of a physical. altercation with an armed enemy coming. over the top of the hill yeah vigilance. State just like our army goes through. constant stress exctly exactly and and. the thing the Army and what a lot of. these people that you've work with is uh. from IEDs and from blowing through doors. and stuff like that they get damage to.

their pituitary gland you know we've. talked about it many many times in the. podcast but I think one of the um. misperceptions is as you said and I. apologize for that is that we think it's. all due to pituitary gland but it isn't. in the work that we've been doing it. shows that when you have inflammation in. the brain regardless of how it's. developed whether or not it's IED or. slip and fall or as we've talked in the. past even wave runners skios or skiing. or water skiing snow skiing right uh or. going to the range the 50 caliber gun.

Gunners what happens is it creates this. inflammation that shuts off the ability. of the brain to regulate the pituitary. gland so you can do all the MRIs as they. do at the VA and they see a normal. pituitary gland and says oh pituitary is. normal you've got PTSD but there's no. radiological or neuro radiological. procedure that allow you to look at. inflammation in the brain so they assume. right they can't find any structure. structural damage that it has to be all.

psychiatric sort of like when they used. to have to diagnose CTE after you. already dead correct isn't that how. they're doing it now no I think they can. scan for it now uh there's a pet scan. that can look for the towel protein that. creates it yeah so it's uh yeah towel. proteins uh hyper phosphated uh towel. becomes these nfts these neuro fibral. Tangles which is an interesting issue. it's been part of my last year of Deep. dive trying to find out why is it that.

you develop CTE or the symptoms relative. to CTE why is it that you develop the. symptoms relative to Parkinson's or. Alzheimer's or multiple sclerosis well. it turns out that the biochemistry is. all the same something called beta. ameloid which is the Hallmark for. someone with Alzheimer's disease and. then these to proteins hyper phosphated. to proteins that they call nfts that. they circulate around the blood vessels. and they create this intense.

inflammation and that intense. inflammation causes loss of blood supply. damage to neurons and you develop it so. we've had uh using our protocol we have. our six case of multiple sclerosis that. was totally put into remission it took. 90 days to put them in remission it was. a uh Lieutenant yeah it's a video up on. uh and what's the protocol that did that. the protocol is the neutraceutical that. drops the inflammation and replacing the.

hormones that are deficient that protect. the brain what is in the neutral in the. neutral there is uh coratin you know. about coratin uh it's got uh EPA Eda uh. Ed DHA from uh omegas it has in it. glutathione Nal cysteine it's got. B12 um that's on one component of it the. other component has B1 B2 which deals. with neural communication.

and then it's got pqq and CoQ10 pqq is a. form of CoQ10 it's a sister and it's 100. to a thousand times stronger but it's. what it does it increases mitochondrial. function I know you've had a lot of. people here talking about mitochondrial. function and that's a major piece in how. to reverse things like neurodegenerative. diseases and improve mental functioning. I mean products like you have like. alphab brain you know has an effect on. improving mitochondrial function and.

that's what you want to do that's a key. so you have to drop the inflammation. because inflammation causes mitochondria. that produce ATP it causes mitochondrial. dysfunction so in all those. neurodegenerative diseases mitochondrial. dysfunction has been ignored in the. past and you need to address it so pqq. and CoQ10 are two very very potent when. added together they stimulate. mitochondrial ATP production and.

replication of mitochondria coratin does. the same thing that's why it's so. important so coratin you were you were. explaining to me before that it's an. ionophore that it it it gets ions into. the bloodstream better so it's when you. consume it with zinc right this is a. paid advertisement for better help life. is kind of like a book and every new. year is the start of a new chapter. except in this case the pages are blank. and you can write whatever the [ __ ] you.

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it works with rhinovirus and enterovirus. gut viruses that you can get during uh. summertime so what I was just getting at. is is it's beneficial for people all. year round not just absolutely people. that think they might be getting Co. absolutely so I take 500 milligrams. twice a day of course ittin and how much. zinc with that 30 milligrams okay I take. 30 and you do that twice a day I do that. uh the cortin twice a day but zinc. because my levels are where they're at I. don't put a lot of uh zinc in because.

zinc's involved in about 300 processes. in the body it's antiviral that we just. talked about it's anti-alzheimer's. because it turns out that the production. of the chemical called beta ameloid. there's an enzyme that regulates it and. it's zinc dependent so if it's working. it's called secretase it's called Alpha. secretase it's zinc dependent beta. secretase is not so beta secretase takes. and makes the the beta ameloid that.

causes the Alzheimer's the inflammation. and with that inflammation you then. start getting the same thing in. CTE so in all these inflammatory. conditions they have the same beta Amid. and cause for CTE the hyper phosphated. towel protein that we call not uh nfts. neuro fibral. Tangles so they're all related so what. coratin does is it increases. mitochondria replication in about.

seven days doubles the amount of. mitochondria. intracellularly uh it helps increase in. liiver something called igf binding. protein 3 insulant like binding protein. 3 binding protein 3 is always looked at. as being the carrier for igf1 insulin. like growth factor growth hormone turns. on in the liver the production of. insulin like growth factor which is the. main below the neck growth factor for. our body improves uh protein synthesis. uh decreases inflammation too wow okay.

um a Sidetrack when you're talking about. beta amalo and Alzheimer's wasn't there. uh a significant amount of fraud that. was exposed about uh Alzheimer's studies. that put into question a lot of the uh. ideas that people had about Alzheimer's. wasn't that something happened recently. well um in the train of uh thought on. Alzheimer's you know they're saying that. it's due to the recessive genes well if.

you look at the real the studies. recently 95% of the cases of Alzheimer's. disease appear to be due to trauma and. aging trauma and aging only 5% trauma. like head trauma head trauma because. what happens is trauma stimulates the. brain because of inflammation to. increase the production of beta ameloid. and it's because there's they found. recently another secretase what. secretase are are the enzymes that.

convert a protein called. a um Alzheimer's precursor. protein and it's a long protein and two. enzymes go in and clip it here and clip. it here and that piece is beta ameloid. that's the bad stuff that's a beta. secretase and a gamma secretase but they. also have something called Alpha. secretase so if Alpha secretase and. Gamma secretase cut this AP it generates.

Alpha ameloid which is inert not. inflammatory and so what did they find. recently something called Delta. secretase Delta. secretase and Gamma gives you beta. ameloid so how do you generate Delta. secretase in the body trauma. aging so that's why most of the cases of. um of Alzheimer's disease are. inflammatory based so what are the. things that I'm sorry but most cases is.

there a certain age where people start. to develop it and has there been any. cases of very young people that get. Alzheimer's there's a young form of. Alzheimer's and that might be directly. due to having had head trauma and. developing this Delta amid or a Delta. secretase generating am uh ameloid beta. amid that creates the Alzheimer's. disease as you get older 65 years of age. and above that is could be 5% genetic.

but I think what the literature is. really speaking towards is that it's all. has an inflammatory basis remember. trauma in the brain equates out to. inflammatory processes it's part of the. brain's ability to try and protect us. right okay remove junk uh bacteria mold. viruses from the brain and also. metabolites of uh abnormal uh metabolism. in the brain what what was the Scandal. the Alzheimer's research Scandal because. it was pretty significant and they were.

saying that it it throws into question. all of these uh previous assumptions and. therapies that they were providing for. Alzheimer's disease and this person had. uh made a significant amount of money. yeah it's the antibodies it's the. treatment protocols the antibodies. against beta ameloid and they found that. even though you were against beta. ameloid you were still progressing on to. develop symptoms of uh Alzheimer's. disease but they were talking about frog. fraud uh this was like fraud in.

scientific research yeah this is. recently how a retracted paper affected. the course of Alzheimer's research but. it's one paper and what was the focus of. okay June 2024 Landmark Alzheimer's. research pay yep uh was retracted due to. fraud allegations do we waste billions. of dollars and thousands of hours of. scientist time maybe not or new. potentially hopeful drugs on the market. targeting the subject of the paper amalo. beta the review video breaks down the. amalo beta hypothesis the fraud itself.

and where we go from here so what is the. fraud itself Jamie does it say so you. can find an article that's just not a. video not attached to a video beta. ameloid data see they've been relying on. beta ameloid as being the focus in what. they're finding is the treatment that. addresses beta amid an antibody against. beta ameloid people are still getting uh. progression of the disease I understand. this but I just want to know what the. what the fraud was oh okay so what is. the fraud amalo hypothesis says scroll. down a little bit Jamie what's the fraud.

where does it get to the what what did. the paper [ __ ] about putting it into. perspective okay 56 paper lead. to. U but later P failed to find where's the. fraud what's it say let me try a. different search yeah just find out like. what was the this seems like very. involved this is a science journal well.

you know that in there are papers that. have been written about. reproducibility reproducibility is where. a researcher does a paper makes a claim. about the results of his science and. then people look at that and they want. to go and reproduce it to prove it they. found that 70% of them can't be. reproduced and when you looked at the. actual scientist who did the original. work goes back and tries to reproduce it. 70% failure rate so there are major.

Publications that have talked about this. reproducibility error I mean you can go. on to you know Google Scholar or else. into Google and look at uh. reproducibility okay here it is but over. the past two years questions have Arisen. about some of ma masela how do you say. his name. m you were Mia massia Mia's research a. science investigation has now found that. scores of his lab studies at UCSD and ni.

are riddled with apparently falsified. Western blots images used to show the. presence of proteins and micrographs of. brain tissue numerous images seem to. have been inappropriately reused within. the within and across papers sometimes. published years apart in different. journals describing Divergent. experimental conditions after science. brought initial concerns about masa's. work to their attention and. neuroscientist and forensic analysists.

specializing in scientific work who had. previously work with science produced a. 300-page dossier revealing a steady. stream of suspect images between 1997. and 2023 at 132 of his published. research papers science did not pay them. for their work in our opinion this. pattern of anomalous data raises. credible concern for research misconduct. and calls into question a remarkably. large body of scientific work okay so it. seems like the fact that he was reusing.

the same in Images stating that they. were new images MH so he was uh stacking. the deck in his favor right because he. had a point to make that God that's so. gross yeah $2.6. billion that's what the budget was. that's the National Institute of Health. yeah geez dwarfs the rest of the. National Institute the Nia combined he. was in charge of the division of. Neuroscience that is so crazy so the. budget of the division of Neuroscience. alone was $2.6 billion in the last.

fiscal year and this guy was a key. leader for the. effort man how gross but that's pressure. and competition and very ambitious. people who have shitty morals yeah well. right that's what that is yes publisher. Parish publisher parish is the motto. right that's the model if they don't. publish and have a positive finding. they're not going to get funding for the. next project that they have when someone. does publish like this gentleman who.

allegedly published falsified data is. there someone who goes over that stuff. to make sure that that's not the case. yeah the editors of the journal that. he's presenting it to right but is is. there preferential treatment for people. that are established scientists that are. thought to be Beyond criticism. theoretically like a gentleman like this. who has an enormous position of power. and a $2.6 billion budget behind him. well but look at the bottom line which. pharmaceutical company was involved in.

it okay which pharmaceutical and you. know that's one of the the problems that. uh you know RFK Jr will be uh generating. is that as he finds that this science is. 70% you can't reproduce it meaning that. right it's maybe not accurate maybe. there's a little bit of that's being. kind bias that's being kind I'm trying. to be kind yeah because otherwise it's. fraudulent right it is correct I was. just reading an article about.

Alzheimer's that was claiming that. Alzheimer's didn't even exist until. modern times. Statin statins cause Alzheimer's is that. what you're saying this this article was. connecting it to our diet the standard. American diet and they were saying that. all the [ __ ] food that people eat is. contributing to this uh this condition. and I was what I was going to get to you. is that would lead to inflammation. correct you got it cuz the [ __ ]. American diet filled with crap is. terrible for you and that leads to. inflammation you look at the.

inflammatory neurodegenerative diseases. what does everyone have now it says a. low inflammatory diet right that's what. it talks about also in hit in high. impact uh interval training in high. impact arobics what happens is you can. increase a chemical in the brain called. brain derived neurotrophic factor which. is something that helps to improve. neuron to neuron communication and. Neurology of your brain and I don't know. if you saw we have uh one of your.

favorite guys Gerald mclen I don't know. if you've seen some of the papers that. have come out he had a stroke in. 95 uh fighting um Nigel Ben in London. and during that fight it was a horrible. fight if you've ever seen the it's a. crazy fight yeah so anyway he had a. stroke from that and was hospitalized. for 11 days in a coma in ICU in London. gets out his sister Lisa mclen. refuses to put him into a nursing home.

into a hospice Health takes him into the. house in Chicago and for 29 years dealt. with him she develops an organization. called um ring of Brotherhood where. Muhammad Ali's niece and son I think are. part of it and they take care of um. boxers who are leaving the ring who have. symptoms punch drunk or what they call. it uh precox or pugilistic dementia. pugilistic yeah and she contacted me and.

uh told me about her brother and I. looked at stuff and what we did was we. set up a fund and we paid for his. laboratory work and his initial. assessment and we found he was. hormonally deficient so what we ended up. doing is putting him on to the hormone. replacement and. to um one of the peptides that we use uh. which is called Anil cax uh which. stimulates the brain to produce more. brain derived neurotrophic Factor he's. in Chicago I'm in in California or here.

in Texas in Magnolia and one of our Docs. in Chicago took the lead I just gave her. what to do he's 20% better in four. months on the protocol he's now. remembering things he's communicating. he's on the phone and uh boxing. journalist uh Oliver fennel came from. London to Chicago and wrote a paper. which is called the day in the life of. Gerald mclen and talks about how what.

happened and where he's gone and he's. had some improvement uh that's. incredible 20 yeah phenomenal 20% proov. um I'm sure we talked about Rick Perry. before the podcast started so I'm sure. you you're aware of his um push to uh. legalize ibaan and start using ibaan for. uh people with traumatic brain injuries. and he was talking about how it. regenerates neural tissue and and and. helps people significantly and and then. on top of that the addiction issue where.

people have addictions and Iain is. incredible for for curing those like. literally curing them in one in one with. one session it's in the 80% range with. two sessions it's in the it's somewhere. around 97% which is just crazy 93 to 97%. phenomenal I I give a lot of uh credit. to Rick Perry in uh 2022 they had hb1. 1802 which is the first bill in any. state where the state. put money into a research project at.

Baylor for um it was for uh s assignment. is where he started so it was Rick Perry. Andrew M was part of it along with Dr uh. Martin shout out to our friend Andrew. yeah hello. Andrew um and uh let's see Dr Martin. palano who I'll cycle back to because. the ibigan issue is what he helped to. develop so uh it was also uh. representative Alex Dominguez who helped.

to push it through to get the funding. for it and it's at Baylor with a Doctor. by the name of um Lynette ail PhD she's. I believe the one who's in charge of it. but recently you know we have iasa we've. got ibigan we got LSD we've got. mmda uh the ibigan seems to be really. good for addiction and for neuro. regeneration which is what you were uh. talking about to Improvement in the. neuro function uh downside is the.

cardiovascular so it has to always be. under a very strict very close. observation right and the uh doctor that. I talked about MD uh Martin uh palano. who has clinics in Mexico uses ibigan. and uh one of our new vets who came on. board in uh one of the other states uh. set up a. 508 charitable organization the 8 is a. religious organization. he Imports uh ibigan from I think it's.

Chile and gets it here in the states and. then sends it to Mexico to uh Dr palano. to do studies so right now I believe he. has the largest group of uh studies and. one of the things that um really has to. be looked at is the compassionate use of. these products you've got guys that are. coming back from war who everything. isn't working you know everything so you. have to start pulling the stops out and. treat them I mean if you really want. them to get better especially when.

there's real evidence that there's not. just that not just anecdotal evidence. that they work but there's actual. scientific correct evidence of their. effectiveness you could there's. mechanisms we understand right so uh I. think I show might have sent you a. preliminary paper I'm working on on the. neurotransmitters to identify how each. one of the uh psychedelic assisted. therapeutic agents work in the brain and. the science is already out there so what. does it tell you the foundation for how.

they work why they work and how they. work is already there so why aren't we. using it well because of a stupid law. that was passed in 1970 to punish. Richard Nixon's political opponents. that's really what it is it was it yeah. that's what it is it was about the civil. rights movement and the anti-war. movement and so one of the ways to get. at these people they knew that one of. the the big shifts of culture if you go. back to like we talk about it ad nause. on the podcast but there's just a. gigantic shift in culture from the 1950s.

to the 1960s it's almost unimaginable. the amount of change it takes place and. what you have to imagine as a person. today is 2015 now you think in time. things accelerate even more rapidly and. change is more exponential it's more. crazy in time and it's kind of sort of. true with some technologies especially. today with AI but if you go back to 2015. and if you were just driving around in. 2015 everything is essentially the same. the phones look pretty much the same the.

cars look pretty much the same there's. not much difference there's not much. difference in your life if you go from. 1959 to 1969 you have a totally. different [ __ ] world you have a. totally different world of culture. totally different world of movies. totally different world of Music totally. different world of automobile design you. have a totally different world that I. believe is inspired by psychedelic drugs. and when and Nixon throws the water on.

the Psychedelic movement in 1970 and. makes them all schedule one including. things that aren't even psychoactive by. the way missed a bunch of really good. ones missed a bunch of really good ones. that are still legal um one of them was. Salvia which is [ __ ] bananas an. insanely potent psychedelic drug that. was completely legal um so if you look. at it culturally you see this shift you. see the movies get clunkier and Goofy. yeah you see the car start to look like.

[ __ ] you see the music starts to suck it. starts to be like real frivolous and. very surface it's very it's cocaine. music right it's not it's not lead. Zeppelin it's not psychedelic music it's. not the doors it's not. Henrick it's not it's not Voodoo Child. you know it's something completely. divorced from feeling yeah right and. this is because of Richard Nixon okay so. you're you're basically saying the. importance of psychedelics in expanding.

the visions that we have to advance our. culture and Society has been removed. exactly what you you talked about the. sympathetic use there's there's you know. there's compassionate use there's people. that are going to use things and they're. going to abuse things just like you and. I are having a glass of whiskey cheers. sir playoffs we're talking about. playoffs you bet we are get in on the. action with draftking sports book an. official sports betting partner of the. NFL scoring touchdowns is key to winning.

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ago wild 13 years ago wild it was Wild. and the thing that stuck out was the. glutathion so I started this morning. with my glutathion mhm cuz I knew we. were going to finish this bottle oh well. I'm not finishing that bottle this not a. chance in hell I have stuff to do oh and. and I just worked out did you take. glutathione uh I haven't taken it yet no. I I take it every night sure if you got. some go get me some I take it uh every. night I take. that's what that is there you go oh this.

I have to suck on this right it tastes. like no brain risk you number three no. is this your company uh mum that's our. product and that is our core product for. uh fixing the guys with the. TBI yeah how's the new flavor that's. actually good oh thank you that actually. doesn't taste bad at all I always get. nervous when you're eating something out. of a tube you said like depends on Whose. tube it is yes a't that true it's not. actually even a tube I don't why I said. a tube it's a packet like a ketchup.

packet there you go it's not ketchup but. it doesn't taste bad at all no um but. yeah you turn me on the glutathion. decade ago decade plus 13 wow long time. ago long time ago um but yeah because of. meeting you I I mean I really ramped up. all of my nutritional supplements you. know in a big way cuz back then when I. first met you had to be 15 years ago. right somewhere around then yeah at. least um when I first met you I was just. basically taking multivitamins I wasn't. really like strict about it and then.

when you started doing blood work and. explaining things to me and you know and. breaking down the nutritional. deficiencies like you need niin you need. this you need that and I started taking. all that stuff and it's it makes a. significant difference it really does. and I talked to a lot of people that are. skeptical about vitamins and they talk. to their doctors unfortunately and the. reality is that you're very educated in. this department but many doctors have a. cursory at best understanding of. nutrition they their their specialty is.

their specialty if they a urologist or. they're an orthopedic surgeon that's. their specialty and most of them are. very unhealthy unfortunately correct and. they are under the illusion that you can. get everything that you need to live. optimally with uh a balanced diet that's. horseshit people yeah absolutely yeah. and you notice it eventually look when I. go on vacation I've gone on vacation. before like 7-Day vacations and not. taking vitamins with me feel shitty yeah. man like I feel different like at the.

end of seven days I'm like Jesus I need. some [ __ ] vitamins so I don't do that. anymore now when I go on vacation I take. vitamins with me I'm like what's the big. deal I pack underwear pack my [ __ ]. vitamins and I just make sure that I. have everything that I need and if I. don't do that I don't feel the same and. I think it's just the difference between. being alive that do you need it to be. alive no but we're not talking about. just alive we're talking about. optimization and if you you want to feel. better and everybody does you you should. take vitamins and you should take a. bunch you should take a lot of different.

stuff yeah absolutely one of the one of. the times you're talking about our. progression throughout time back in the. 90s doctors were against vitamin saying. that it's expensive uh urine expensive. flushing down the toilet you remember. that my doctor told me that yeah and. then what happened and then all the. science started coming out saying how we. needed B12 because our nutrition was. devoid because the soil not being. rotated avoid in the nutrients to feed. the plants to give us our I thought B12.

was essentially from animals it is. muscle yeah from muscle but talking. about B complex really you know you can. get it in Plants as well but it's the. trace elements as well the minerals and. without having adequate amount in you. got to replenish it and if you don't. replenish it you lose important you know. uh Pathways what about folks so they're. getting their food organically they're. getting like like they go to a farmers. market they get really good organic. groceries. most of the organic people uh supplement.

the animals with quality supplementation. food but I mean organic vegetables. organic vegetables uh you know or to be. organic you can't have pesticides on it. you can't have heavy metals so it has to. be uh nutritionally enriched with. positive um uh soil uh they might they. might put additives in ideally you'd. like just a natural process of compost. post and manure and stuff like that and. that's where I I use chicken [ __ ] on uh.

chicken shit's great it works yeah I've. got some great lemons and vegetables do. you know that people used to go to war. over bat [ __ ] aguano yes yeah yeah that. nuts yeah like guano was so important. for fertilizer for not only fertilizer. then it became uh the the base. foundation for lipstick and eyeliner. yeah bad [ __ ] was the foundation for. lipano you imagine kissing someone they. got batshit liptick gu Wars yeah they.

really did have guano Wars is that nuts. isn't that where batshit crazy came from. crazy is batshit bat [ __ ] I I think the. term batshit crazy I think that had. something to do with how fever people. would fight in a war over. batshit is it fervent yeah whatever yeah. it's a good word I like B there's a lot. of words I don't use but I I read them. and then when it's time to use them I'm. like that's the appropriate Ro I'm like. how you [ __ ] say that yeah I think.

that's where the term batshit crazy came. from one bizarre blink guano ruled us. Agriculture and the world how fertilizer. Madness sparked into a turd war and. turned guano into gold yeah yeah man. people needed that for fertilizer yeah. does it talk about the Cosmetic use of. guano Fountain of. Youth the bat shits the Fountain of. Youth it's I what is it the nitrogen. composition of it is very good for uh.

growth of plants this is interesting it. says prior to modern science and. agriculture the wise and House of soil. Health largely were mysterious how soil. additives functioned or the knowledge of. which minerals were needed and when was. the realm of the blind Beyond animal. manure Farmers added soil amendments to. by the barrel composts human waste fish. coal Bri products chalk or whatever. Unholy concoction was hawked by the. latest charlatan to pull to pull up in a. wagon at Town's Edge and promise a yield.

Bloom decade upon decade the pitfalls of. fertilization tormented Growers until. 1802 when German Explorer and scientist. Alexander Von Hol strolled down a. waterfront in Peru and felt his nose. hairs curl an ammonia rebellion and an. odor emanating from barge loads of. yellow brown cake guano Von hombal was. told the stinking bird droppings covered. the nearby chincha Islands in deep. layers and were massively popular with. Peruvian.

Farmers so this is interesting so that's. how they started doing this so this is. in the 1800s can I read the next. sentence sure okay A little dabble do. you curiosity building the nostril. burning V humble took home a Scoopa. guano to Europe and turned the spigot on. agricultural Fountain of Youth I.E he. sparked a ver fertilizer War you know. what's the interesting most interesting. stuff about fertilizer is it's [ __ ] to. me yeah but the do you know that that. soil that they have in the Amazon that. was uh created by man no yeah it's.

called Tera praa and uh Graham Hancock. uh told me about it it's there's a a. very specific soil in the Amazon that. they think people from you know. thousands of years ago figured out how. to make and this is like some sort of a. compost process and it's a very dark. soil called Terra praa and this dark. soil that exists on the surface layer of. a lot of the Amazon was put there by man.

and not just put there by man but. created like they had a process that. they have not replicated to this day. they don't know what it is or how they. did it but they're very aware that there. was a process involved to making this. stuff and that it's not a natural. process of this stuff forming at least. that's what he said that's what he. said let me see show show him some Tera. praa it's pretty fascinating so it's a. dark a dark dark Earth yeah it's it's. very interesting because you see it and. you're like this is uh that's what it.

looks like so you see the terator is on. the surface and then you go below it and. you just get like regular dirt but this. Tera praa made everything very very rich. and you know it grew so much plants it's. just like do you know that the Amazon is. mostly human planted plants that grew. out of control yeah who planted it the. original settlers of the am this is the. theory right so they know now that the.

Amazon was heavily populated they didn't. used to think that they used to think it. was just this qu crazy wild jungle and. there's indigenous populations to live. inside of it well at one point in time. there were cities so there's grids they. found indications of you know some sort. of uh transportation of water they had. it looked like streets they had grids. that indicate there were structures. there all throughout from the use of. liar oh sure yeah well it's from. actually drones so they fly over with.

drones and they scan the area they. probably could use satellites too but. they use drones they scan the and even. airplanes they scan the area and then. they get these images that show these. geometric patterns right that exist. below and so they've Unearthed a lot of. these and so now they think there were. millions of people living in the Amazon. and that would probably happened was. Europeans came over and gave them all. small. pox yeah that's the theory just like. they did. 90% of Native Americans but what was.

done there was done in a place where. they had made this environment with Tera. praa and just because of the you know. the Lush rainforest it's like it rains. constantly and vegetation grows so well. that as soon as they were gone within a. couple hundred years everything's. consumed by the jungle and then you have. lead thousands and thousands and. thousands of years in the future there's. nothing left and that's what they think. they're looking at when they're looking. at these large sections of the Amazon. that have these patterns and structures. that indicate civilization yeah uh it's.

pretty wild yeah I start my mornings. looking at uh archaeology you do I get. yeah I look at archaeology but the. archaeology that I look at in lar uh is. in Europe because you know I collect. ancient coins from uh Europe from Italy. and Germany and so forth and Spain and. I've seen the photos where they go over. and they see the foundation as you said. in the structures that are man-made. structur. yeah so it's neat stuffff it just makes. you wonder how many of those exist out.

there you know in the Mexican jungles. and in the Guatemalan jungles and we. don't even know about toex Aztec May. yeah there's probably a ton of them back. there there's probably a bunch of stuff. because the Amazon is so huge and most. of it is not explored most of it is you. know there's a a bunch of different. uncontacted tribes that live in there. right in fact my friend Paul Ros do you. know who Paul rosley is no is he the one. archaeology no um he's essentially.

working to save the rainforest and what. he does is he goes down there and he. hires these people that were loggers to. have a new job and the new job is to. protect the forest instead and they've. saved like [ __ ] I don't know what the. number is but incredible large number of. Acres they've saved this way and they. continue to do this and they're trying. to work with these people and try to. stop them from just destroying. destroying the Amazon I think sting. donated a large amount of money to the.

Brazilian Amazon and a lot of um. entertainers who have donated a lot of. money to protect it so my friend Paul he. runs into uncontacted tribes all the. time many times to go there he sent me a. video the other day that I can't share. but it's crazy these uncontacted tribes. these naked people in the jungle in 2025. yeah it's really wild yeah they live in. isolation yeah but well you know. isolation from what from us. yeah but they they live the way people.

lived you know 100 thousand years ago. and I would God if I could be a fly on. the wall can you imagine the documentary. if we get really good at drones to the. point where you can have a bunch of. drones that really do look like insects. and fly them in there and film these. folks yeah and just without them being. but the problem then people would want. to go visit them you know and then they. [ __ ] everything up yeah you have to kep. keep it hidden like your video you were. talking about because the that's the. reason why he doesn't want the video to. get out he doesn't want people to know.

that there's these people out there and. there's a lot of them he said well one. of his friends was killed one of his. friends was uh murdered by these people. with the darts with no they got with. Arrows with karari on they could do that. but they you know they shot him with. bows and arrows they just [ __ ] killed. him um and you know this was a guy that. was like giving them stuff too it's like. he was bringing over rafts of food and. they're like you know what today [ __ ]. you yeah you know we killed a bunch of. fish today we we don't need your bananas.

have you seen them where the ones the. Indians living in the Amazon they're. shooting down the uh the monkeys for. food oh yeah they love monkeys they. don't need anything they've they've. already established a a culture of uh. hunting harvesting and um building their. homes or building their uh you know what. I found out recently the term indian is. not because Columbus thought that he was. in India. yeah I'd been told that in [ __ ] high. school so what is it it's the children.

of God it's uh what is the original term. of Indios there's like I forget the. term um but it's not about India it's. just they called them Indians because. they were the people that were living. here in this place that they had named. the indigenous but is you know like. everybody thinks like America you know. like you think of Native Americans you. know that we used to call them Indians. because they thought we landed in they.

Columbus landed in India or he thought. he landed in India did he really it says. though what's that what's it it says. that yeah the Portuguese were Indios but. because Columbus was Portuguese right. but what is there's a term though. there's a term like the people of God. the Portuguese wor Indios that's what. the AI said yeah but there's another. term in there's something something that. has to do with indos see AI I don't AI. is wrong about stuff.

sometime where did the the. term that's I just I just typed in the. word right right just just type in why. are Native Americans called. Indians that's not not going to get you. there either origin of the word Indian. right so I was listening to this guy. talk about this in a lecture I wish I. saved it. I I absorb too much information and.

don't follow up through on other I'll go. with [ __ ] post was this one what does it. say always in the impression that we use. the term India because Europeans were. mistaken that they landed in India. however this Huff Post article explains. that it wasn't possible that we use the. term Hindustan for India that's what it. is and that Europeans used the term. India earlier on which had morphed into. Indian that's right it was Indio so. click on the Huff Post article the name. Indian and political correctness from. 2007 right um well this guy was it was a.

lecture this guy was giving oh whoever. wrote this could have be the guy that. gave the lecture sometimes that happens. right could beago um what is he saying. what's his term because there was. something there was something that had. to do that's right los Ninos indos Loos. okay who called them Los spelling may be. wrong the children of God the. description by the Padre means something. like the children of God after many.

years of use the word Indios emerged and. to this day the indigenous people South. and Central America are called. Indios so this is what this guy was. saying so it said stop scroll back go. back um so it said here I'm a firm. believer that most historians are wrong. when they credit Christopher Columbus. for Corning the word Indian because he. thought he was Landing his ships in. India by 1492 there was no country known. as India instead that country was called. Hindus. I think that it's close to the truth. that Spanish Padre that sailed with.

Columbus was so impressed by the. innocence of the natives he observed. that he called them los Ninos indos. meaning the spelling may be wrong in the. Spanish words but the description by the. Padre means something like the children. of God after many years of uses the word. Indios emerged and to this day the. indigenous people of South and Central. America are called Indios I'm told that. as the word w wound its way North it. evolved into Indian of course some will. say that there's was a place in the East.

Indies in 1492 and Columbus may have. thought he was headed for that region so. how and when did the effort to. politicize the name start some of it. started when Native Americans enrolled. in some of the white colleges I think. they found the word Indian offensive and. set about to remake it they found that. the word Indian was often used in a. derogatory fashion such as drunken. Indian or rotten Indian perhap perhaps. the white people would have found it. more difficult to say drunken Native.

American um yeah those white people yeah. those dirty white people absolutely. their problem uh and finally when some. Indian journalists made it to the. newsrooms of large and prestigious. mainstream newspapers they reacted the. word Indian as they did when they were. in college they went to their editors. and tried to impress upon them the paper. should no longer use the word Indian but. instead switch to Native American or. native interesting. the problem even with Native American is. um Native for how long so like if you.

believe the bearing land ma Mass theory. that they came across that way that in a. lot of Native Americans This is actually. tested because of Mormons so there was a. wealthy Mormon who spent a bunch of. money on DNA testing for Native. Americans because he was sure that it. was going to relieve it was going to. show that they were from the Lost tribe. of Israel because he believed. you know the Mormon teaching is that.

like the Indians and Native Americans. are lost tribes of Israel but then he. found out when they did the DNA testing. no they're from Siberia like a lot of. them are from Siberia so that would make. sense they crossed the bearing land. bridge their ancestors did and they. wound up in North America well my people. came from uh communist fos in Russia. well that's connected yeah that it was. from there from Siberia yeah we bought. Alaska for like 50 bucks yeah that was. like the deal liftime they talk about. Manhattan might be the better deal like.

financially it's worth a lot more but. godamn Alaska's bigger than Texas Alaska. is huge yeah and you've gone there. hunting right oh yeah I've gone there a. few times it's it's an incredible Place. Alaska's incredible it's really uh it's. really wild like that's the last real. Frontier if you want to get away move to. a small town in Alaska and go go live. next to Sarah. Palin I can see Russia from there so I. should become Secretary of remember when. she said that she can see Russia [ __ ]. you can't even see you can't even see.

the rest of Alaska Alaska is huge what. are you saying yeah I loved it there you. know thege salmon fishing the yeah I. love the people the people are just. different man they're just rugged people. they're more reliable they're built. better like you have to like you you. like you know how certain Gene. expressions are turned on and off due to. stress and imagine their jeans they're. dealing with [ __ ] grizzly bears and. moose and [ __ ] like this's a I'm sure.

you've seen this video of this guy goes. outside of his house in the morning and. two gigantic moose are duking it out in. his driveway head tohe head tohe. bouncing off cars and [ __ ] this guy's. like whoa and he lives in a neighborhood. it's like this guy isn't in the woods. somewhere like on his own he's in a. [ __ ] neighborhood these moose are. duking it out yeah I love that in in my. neighborhood uh the old neighborhood in. Chatsworth we had brown bears coming in. no you didn't you had black bears they. had black bears brown bear of California.

no no no no no what do you mean no no no. brown bears have been extinct in. California since the 1800s the last guy. die and yes the last guy to die from. bear attacks from a brown bear was. Steven L and he died in what's now L. California they named the town after him. and it's right outside of tone Ranch. I'll have to show you send you the. pictur well I'll tell you what it is. it's called a color face bear so it's a. different it's a bear okay so there's a. brown bear which is a grizzly bear and.

the the Kodiak bear and you know those. Bears these are Norm but they're all the. same bear the difference between a. grizzly bear and a brown bear is just. mostly what they eat so the brown bears. in like Alaska have so much salmon that. they have immense amounts of protein and. they're the the largest of all the brown. bears they're [ __ ] huge they're much. much much much bigger than a black bear. yeah we had parks and Rangers come to. our house because uh one of our. refrigerators failed so we had all this.

great beef in there so I had to throw it. out bears found it the next day the. Bears found it it was in a you know. canister and they came there so I took. videos of these what I thought were. brown bears coming in so you're saying. they're not what's the no they're. they're brown color phase so brown bears. can be U excuse me black bears black. bears can be brown most of them are. black some of them are even blonde. there's blonde colorf bears that they.

find up in Alberta but they're black. bears so a black bear is less aggressive. than a grizzly bear a grizzly bear is a. brown bear and they were killing so many. people in California that they wiped him. out that's what happened well this one. jumped over a six- foot fence but before. it jumped over the six foot fence it. ended up eating chicken and flamon and. ribeye and everything the only thing it. didn't eat was the garlic naan. well tell you what that bear is going to. be back it came back three times on the.

third time uh Parks and Recreation came. by with a uh dart gun to try and put it. down so that they can transport it to. someplace else did they get it no no it. jumped over the fence I've never seen a. bear jump 6 feet oh they can move man it. was 250 lbs at least is what they said. oh they can move they move very very. very fast it was unbelievable you'd be. amazed at how fast they can move like. when they're chasing after another bear. or something is happening they're they. move very fast and then there was it.

jumped into our swimming pool it was. just you yeah I had but in Pasadena they. have a lot of those a lot of them. Pasadena there's a funny video of this. guy in Pasadena he's uh walking down a. street and he turns into alley and he's. just staring at his phone and he's. walking with his phone and this guy gets. within like 30 feet of a [ __ ] bear. wow and he just like freak see you can. find it it's hilarious yeah I was like. 10t away in Pasadena like in fullon. Pasad not like the outskirts and The Bu. the bush right no like actual Street.

City Street in Pasadena black bear yeah. so what do you do when it's looking you. face to face well you you usually make a. noise and try to startle it and frighten. it yeah and get the [ __ ] out of there. like hey bear you say hey bear that's. what people do they say hey bear the. thing is like bears that have been. accustomed to people so that right there. is a black bear that is not a brown bear. the one that I saw and I think look a. brown bear I have it on my cell phone. but it was lighter than that yeah they. make they like I said they get even.

blonde so that's a brown black that's a. color phase black bear intimidating yeah. well let's see the difference though. pull up grizzly bear so grizzly bear is. a completely different [ __ ] yeah. so on the state flag of California. that's a grizzly bear that's a grizzly. bear yes that is the brown bear that is. no long look at the size of those. [ __ ] see that's a thing wow see. the difference in the size so that's a. black bear and a grizzly bear Grizzlies. are much much bigger much more. aggressive much more dangerous but.

interestingly enough black bears turn. out to be more predatory towards humans. so when a black bear attacks people. usually it's trying to eat them whereas. when a Grizzly attacks people generally. like a a large percentage of the attacks. are I'm good a large percentage of the. attacks are um people accidentally. stumbling upon a mother in their cubs. mother that's the worst case scenario. cuz it's protect yeah you get near a. mama. be that's so terrifying they they.

because they just try to eliminate the. threat immediately and they just go. after you and [ __ ] you up they don't. they don't look at you and go what are. you doing what's this about they have to. protect their cubs MH and there's so. much uh cannibalism in the Bear World. they eat their. babes yeah yeah male Grizzlies eat Cubs. and they they hunt Cubs and so there's. so much cannibalism of cubs from male. Grizzlies that the females are always on. edge cuz everywhere they go their fear.

is that they run into a male who's going. to eat their cubs Grizzlies are [ __ ]. ruthless these [ __ ] that think they. want to bring Grizzlies back to. California this is like a movement now. to bring Grizzlies back cuz just like. they brought wolves back to Colorado. these people are [ __ ] and they've. never spent a second in the woods they. don't know what the [ __ ] they're dealing. with they don't know what you're. bringing back and what the consequences. are going to be of those things and look. there's places they exist and they're. great it's awesome go to Montana you.

could see them go to uh you know Wyoming. you can see them they're starting to. make their way into Colorado a friend of. mine saw one in the San Juan mountains. you got video footage of it yeah I know. you go with your archery hunting mhm. there's no hunting of bears y there's a. lot of hunting of bears not the lower 48. so they're trying to change that they're. trying to change that in Montana because. they have so many instances mhm and you. know and attacks and a woman was killed. a couple years ago she was dragged out. of her tent yeah it's scary [ __ ] man and.

I'm not advocating for the eradication. of Grizzlies I'm just saying that with. our modern society when they haven't. existed in an ecosystem to reintroduce. that to the ecosystem you're you're. going to cause chaos you're going to. cause havoc and if you want healthy. breeding populations of them good luck. good luck cuz now everything changes all. your livestock changes your dogs change. your dogs are going to get eaten. anything you you have a dog chained up. in the backyard that's meat on a stick.

yeah that's me on a chain yeah that's. over they're going to and they're going. to do that they're going to Target your. garbage you're not going to be able to. get rid of them they're going to keep. coming back it's they're dangerous. animals and they're beautiful and. amazing and an important part of the. ecosystems that they exist in currently. like Montana and Wyoming where there elk. populations and a lot of food for them. in Alaska yeah I personally can't see. for myself going out hunting for Bears. or Elks or moose and I know you do that.

but there's such incredible animals mhm. they're just incredible animals yeah I. just can't see putting them down if you. don't the way they die without me is way. worse if I get them I'm going to get. them with an arrow and they're going to. be dead in seconds yeah if they get. attacked by a bear or Mountain Li it's. [ __ ] brutal it's brutal and the worst. I mean they might just freeze to death. that's how most of them go I know I shot. an elk a couple years ago that was 11. years old and he had almost no teeth. left his teeth were ground down because.

you know they're just they don't live. long and part of it is because they. can't grind food after a certain age. yeah because no teeth no teeth yeah cuz. their teeth are I mean they're just. digging into the ground and pulling out. shrubs and grasses and they're. constantly mashing and smashing and over. the period of you know 11 years his his. teeth had worn down to the roots yeah so. you've gone after Bears I've hunted.

Bears before hunted eat bears and you've. eaten it what's the meat like it's like. beef it's like a like a like a pig. [ __ ] a cow that's what it's like it's. like a weird kind of beef like a maybe a. deer [ __ ] a cow it's uh it's good. though it's good but it depended upon. the diet of the animal so like the. people that hunt grizzly bears and. they've eaten grizzly bears or brown. bears they say they taste so fishy it's. it's almost intolerable but you could. turn them into sausage you could with. the right spices and stuff like bare.

sausage is great but you also has to be. have to be careful because of trinos so. you have to make sure you cook it to 160. plus degrees the to kill theosis cuz I. know several people that got trioses. from bare meat heart well it's just. parasites and your muscles yeah and it. doesn't have too many adverse effects it. means very painful and brutal for the. beginning exposure you know the. beginning infection. but then the thing is like if if you're. a cannibal and you eat that dude and you.

don't cook him right you're going to get. it from him which is really crazy one. the reasons why I don't eat pig that you. got after me in the last time we were. here Pig has a lot of parasites and a. lot of them aren't cooked to the level. to kill the parasites cister sycosis and. so forth and trichinosis and tros. especially wild pigs yeah you know what. the number one source of trinos is for. people in America no black bears isn't. that crazy think about how few people. eat black bears but yet the number one.

source of osis in America for people. that test positive for it so it's. through contamination from food from. eating them from eating them yeah cuz. there's a lot of people that hunt black. bears wow yeah want to get really get. blown away what you know what has the. state has the largest population per. capita of black bears in the. country Wyoming New Jersey no way yep. New Jersey New Jersey New Jersey has an. infestation of black Paris New Jersey we.

played this video a hundred times with. these these giant bears that are duking. it out in a beautiful suburb of Far Rock. Away New Jersey so there like nice nice. normal not like the woods not like you. know [ __ ] residential area yeah not. the mountains residential area they. knock over this mailbox and they're duk. it out in the street big [ __ ] Bears. big bears a guy recently shot the state. record black bear in New Jersey and it. was 800. lb yeah you should see it pull that.

video up the photo rather up of this. guy's bear so uh I'm pretty sure that. was archery as well um they banned bear. hunting in New Jersey when the new. governor came into place that lasted for. about a year and then the human. interactions with bears were so frequent. and so that they re restarted the bear. hunting program it's an important too. look at the size of that bear look at. the [ __ ] size 770 dressed wow that's. 7 70 after they gutted it and they added. another 800 lb for its intestines and.

organs another another 100 pounds or so. is they think so so it's field dressed. the bear before it was officially. weighed in at 770 so it's. probably quite a bit heavier than. that pretty. nuts crazy so if you see there's other. pictures of it where you really get a. better size of it see if you can find. some other pictures of it cuz that is. huge yeah some other pictures of have it. laid out and they're you know you could. see what it looks like it's a [ __ ].

giant bear but it's cuz they have so. much food there and a lot of these bears. exist look at the size of that thing a. lot of these bears exist around uh. humans and you've gone after black bear. not that big not that the the black. bears that I've shot are like 200 lb 250. lb well they didn't look like babies. yeah I know but but yeah you eat them. man and it's also it's an important part. of conservation if you don't control. their populations no one does this is. the thing about bears they are the top.

of the food chain so if you're not. controlling them no one does and so what. they do is they eat each other that's. the only control of bears is the uh. infanticide of the Cubs by the. males so and the females too by the way. you want to hear a crazy thing my friend. Jonathan he watched this bear and this. female bear cuz so the male bear came. around the female bear is trying to. fight him off and she eventually can't. and the male bear gets a hold of one of. her Cubs and kills it and she chases him.

off of her dead Cub right then she eats. her cub whoa whoa whoa that's the real. world who that's the real world she ate. her cub right in front of him and he was. he came back to camp and he was like. [ __ ] yeah so that's the balance that has. to be struck in where was it Montana. where they had open season for uh for. Elk or for moose no was it moose no. there's no Open Season there's no like. which state was it where they open.

season open season means they didn't. need a permit they had a call the. there's no way they would never do that. with Elk elk is a very valuable no no no. no they never do that with moose either. they would never do that with they. wouldn't they do it in some communities. with white-tailed deer and the reason. why they do it is because they're. completely overpopulated and oddly. enough this happens a lot in the suburbs. like there's places in the suburbs yeah. where people there's like people who bow. hunt in the suburbs because like look if. you're bow hunting your arrow doesn't go. more than a 100 yards right it's not.

like you have to worry about you shoot. and someone a mile away gets hit by a. bullet if you miss you you your your. arrow drops it arcs right archery it. arcs so it drops down to the ground it. only go so far and so it's safer if you. have competent Hunters who are skilled. to hunt in the suburbs and you know most. of these suburbs have wooded areas and. they're infested with deer so I think it. was Pennsylvania. states that were were bringing in Bow. hunters in New York in all their wisdom.

these [ __ ] dorks in uh in the area. around the Hamptons they have this issue. but the people are so [ __ ] [ __ ]. Long Island that yeah well it's just. it's the Hamptons because they're rich. it's like if you had regular WR Island. regular Long Island probably say yeah we. should hunt them because they're food. I'm from Queens yeah there you go so um. they decided they were going to just try. to sterilize the deer and give them. birth control they were they came up. with all these wacky Concepts but didn't. want to bring in Bow Hunters but wasn't. there in the last what 5 years there was. an overpopulation of moose or elk.

there's never been an over no no no no. no there's been times where they had. seasons in Winter for elk in Montana and. the reason it was a complete. depopulation effort so they had had um. this is before the reintroduction of. wolves though so the reintroduction of. wolves which is in the 1990s has. significantly impacted the elk. population and now it's actually more. difficult to get a tag um but back then. they would have certain Seasons that. would have in the winter so you'd be.

able to get these these elk that were. out there in the snow moving very slowly. in the deep snow and you could just kind. of pick them off and it was basically. just a meat hunt and it was a lot they. killed a lot of cows that way cow elk. and it was just a way for people to get. meat and also they were trying to put a. dent on the population because it wasn't. sustainable so they would have an elk. herd of you know thousands of elks. where it really should have been like. 800 elk with the sustainable. sustainability of the area and the bear.

couldn't keep up they couldn't eat. enough of them the mountain lions. couldn't eat enough of them and then. they brought in the Wolves and the. Wolves were way better than everybody. else CU they hunt together and they. started really chipping away at them and. now they've knocked the elk population. down I think it's in the neighborhood. they dropped it by 40%. plus what was the need for reducing the. elk population well if you don't have a. balance ecosystem right if you don't. have enough predators and you have uh a.

large animal like an elk like a bull elk. is an 800 pound animal and a cow elk a. mature cow elk is north of 300 lb 400 lb. so this is a lot of food and they can. decimate little vegetation and there is. a documentary that's uh kind of like poo. pooed by people but interesting. nonetheless um it's how uh how wolves. changed rivers and it's all about how. the yellow Stone ecosystem changed. because of the introduction to wolves. and more song birds came in because.

there was more vegetation because the. introduction of wolves they killed off a. lot of the elk the elk had been just. like maybe overbalanced in the fact that. like over represented they were eating. too much vegetation yeah so it's all. interesting but what you really want is. things to happen naturally and then when. there's a. problem you know really the best way to. handle the problem if there's like an. overabundance of these animals is to. bring in. Hunters the other solution would be to. bring in Predators the problem with.

bringing in Predators is if you have a. predator like wolves that has been. forever uh maligned because they go. after livestock and they do Target. ranchers like there's there was an. article I read today actually about this. these ranchers that were kind of. optimistic about wolves being introduced. into Colorado and now they vly oppose it. because they've seen the impact and one. of the reasons why they saw the impact. is because the governor of Colorado and. all his [ __ ] Infinite Wisdom he had.

uh a mandate to get these wolves. introduced during a certain amount of. time and they didn't have the Wolves so. they got wolves from Oregon that they. had captured while they were preing on. livestock so these wolves were already. accustomed to praying on livestock and. those are the Wolves they reintroduced. into Colorado they reintroduced wolves. that had already been they had already. been like naturalized to killing. livestock and so what they start doing. they started finding livestock and. killing him again duh think but that's.

the thing it's like you're you're. [ __ ] around with nature and you don't. know how this calculation is going to. end you're look a good example is. Australia Australia is a [ __ ] mess. because they kept bringing in animals. and then they'd bring in animals to kill. the animals and then they'd have an. overpopulation of certain animals so. they bring in cats and now they have an. overpopulation of feral cats the point. where they hunt feral cats like if look. at an Australian bow hunting Journal you. know they have bow hunting magazines my. buddy Adam Green Tree shout out to Adam.

Greentree my buddy Adam gave me a. magazine from Australia bow hunting I'm. like bro what the [ __ ] is this it's all. cats these guys are holding up house. cats because they kill feral cats. whenever they can CU feral cats have. decimated ground nesting birds and. they've destroyed just like of a [ __ ]. ton of native animals that were in that. area cuz they brought them in to kill. some other animal they brought in it's. like you can't [ __ ] around with nature.

like that you don't know what the. consequences are and when you do Ballot. Box biology which is essentially what. this stuff is so the reintroduction of. wolves is something people voted on the. people that voted on are living in. [ __ ] Denver all right they don't. encounter wolves they don't know what. they're doing it's like the same thing. happened in Vancouver so in British. Columbia they outlawed grizzly bear. hunting why they do that because man why. would you kill it they call it trophy. hunting but it's important to manage the. Predators and the people that knew this. were the people that lived in the rural. areas that were vehemently opposed to.

this ban and then what happens well you. get Ballot Box biology you get people. that have no experience with bears don't. encounter Bears don't have to worry. about bears and they say yeah let's not. ban them anymore and now you got Bears. breaking into people's houses and. there's much more of them than ever. before and people are freaked out you. can't do anything about it yeah I. freaked out when the bear came to the. house yeah you should it was like whoa. seeing this [ __ ] Bear 250 lb swimming. in my swimming pool you know going back.

and forth and then the uh Department of. uh parks and Rangers came you know came. in to try and uh deal with it yeah yeah. they said stop feeding it I'm not. feeding it I put the [ __ ] you know. beef into the garbage can because it's. no longer you know it wasn't Frozen the. bear kept on don't put it there where. should I put it yeah where you put me. put it at your [ __ ] neighbor's house. you have some guy that's annoying go use. his garbage in the middle got a bad. neighbor I'm going to have to put it.

into there yeah you should dress up. though dress up like a c Clan member or. something like that so they don't know. as a bear to go into Rolls-Royce to. destroy the rollsroyce oh there you go. you remember that one no what was that. you didn't see that this uh oh that's. right a guy was wearing a bear. suit insur fraud insurance fraud they. brought in a bear expert and said that. bear would not have gone into the. Rolls-Royce and done those scrape marks. on it so this guy was trying to get rid. of his car he was trying to get uh.

insurance money oh what a [ __ ] what a. silly [ __ ] yeah yeah I've learned right. now so much more about bears you know. incredible yeah they're a wild animal I. mean not wild just wild but fascina I. love them you know Teddy Roosevelt and. you know when he did his bear hunting. loved it bears are such you know what. the scarest bear to run across is uh. take no po bear oh White Bear yeah you. know why no cuz they don't eat anything. but meat at least grizzly bears if you.

find a grizzly bear that's in a. blueberry field you probably don't even. have to worry about them they're going. be oh yeah they' be gorging on blue but. black bears and grizzly bears are. omnivorous so they eat vegetation and. they also eat meat meat polar bears are. just carnivores wow and they're hyper. aggressive wow yeah they just eat seals. and occasionally people but they eat. they hunt people yeah no way oh yeah. they'll go after you they smell you from. a distance to hunt you bad bad body odor.

or something just you smell everybody. smells you know you'd be amazed at how. much a bear can smell there was a a. video where my friend was in um I forget. what I think they were in Montana maybe. Idaho and um a bear was 700 yards away. plus and the wind hit the back of his. neck and the bear started running and. he's like did that [ __ ] bear wind us. like the bear caught their smell from. 700 yards.

away and went after him no the other way. it was black black bears run away yeah. absolutely human run yeah well in any. area where the Bears get hunted they run. away sure you know like in Alaska if. they smell you generally they run away. because people hunt bears in Alaska they. don't have any experience with getting. hunted black bears do but grizzly bears. don't in the lower 48 in the lower 48. it's not legal to hunt them yet. but they're trying to change Grizz. Grizzlies okay. yeah interesting yeah interesting great.

new information for me it's it important. to know yeah in case I go a wild world. out there absolutely it's a wild world. and you know you live in the city and. you think it's cute let's go for a hike. and all a sudden you meet a [ __ ]. mountain lion well we have mountain. lions where oh [ __ ]. yeah uh bobat deer Bobcats uh lot of you. have a lot more deer if it wasn't for. the mountain lions and that's what the. wildlife uh lovers want they want nature.

to balance itself out the problem is. they eat your cats and dogs too A lot of. them in San Francisco there was like 50%. of the uh problem cats that they caught. they found out their diet was pets yeah. 50% of their diet was pets I lost two. cats yeah Cotes mostly right the coyotes. were the ones they were um indoor cats. and every now and then they would go out. right and gone yeah gone owls get them. too do they really they they swoop in.

and pick them up and take them away a. buddy of mine um has a friend who works. in like tree service and they found a. nest an owl Nest it was filled with cat. collars yeah like 10 cat collars in. there yeah yeah yeah we've got ows where. we are we're in Santa Susanna pass oh. yeah a lot of owls there a lot of vows. do you know owls are stupid no yeah. they're dumb you know that whole thing. of Wise Old owl they're one of the. dumbest Birds they don't learn things. they're stupid I talked to a lady who's.

a falconer and she trains birds and she. has an owl and she's like it's the. dumbest bird I have she's like this idea. that owls are wise she was like they're. the second dumbest bird who's number one. I forget ostrich see if you can find it. it's in the ostrich family it's another. animal that's in the ostrich family. ostriches might be dumber than than owls. they're really dumb always got their. head in the sand well they're Al big. yeah they're big they don't they don't. [ __ ] what's the other uh and they can. kill you they kick you to death what's.

the other breed that's it's not ostrich. but it's in the same family. caway it's caway I think that's what. it's called that's the one that's. dangerous they kill. people that's you ever seen that [ __ ]. weird bird noen SE is that what and that. am I saying it right A C thing C that's. right c yeah they're freaky looking man. they're freaky looking yeah they're a. big ass bird too but they kill people. the people have died by being attacked. by these birds and what picks them on. their face I think they claw them I. think they attack you with their claw it.

might be their face too their face looks. like a [ __ ] Hatchet yeah that's wow. beautiful bird beautiful God look at his. eyes wow I'm looking at. you yeah wow look at the comb Google. caori kills. people and where are they found just in. Australia I don't know where that one. is a massive flightless emu like. creature that's the word as the most. dangerous bird in the world owing to the. fact that is it can seriously injure or.

kill a human or a dog in an instant with. his deadly claws yeah it's the claws. yeah they just rip you apart so they go. for your guts you know that's the say. like yeah. yeah look at their tips oh my God they. got [ __ ] Talons for claws geez 5 in. they can eviscerate a human being with a. single. kick although there's no record of this. happening. was it cuz the people are dead they can. run 13 miles an hour killed a 75y old.

man who was Raising one in Florida he. tripped and fell on it and the birded oh. Jesus Christ succumb to a yeah wow well. that's a bird I'm not going to. collect H yeah what's the dumbest bird. Jamie I so. it's it said owls are smart when I. Googled are owl Dum are smart lies lies. said they're almost as smart as a crow. or Raven of. uh but I did see some stuff saying. they're not that smart or their brains. are different but they have really good.

eyesight and stuff so oh yeah they have. no ows are not dumb yeah that's right. lies lies I was talking to a lady and. she one lady told you they're not two. ladies two two different falconers and. if you have three it's a done deal two. different people and now you like in the. last year I've I've hung out with two. different falconers and their animals. yeah believe it or not one of them had. an eagle yeah she had a um a female bald. eagle it was. amazing dude you we I caught it on my.

arm you know you put the glove on you. have to put a different glove for the. eagle and the other animals because it's. Talons are so powerful but having that. thing land on your arm it's. crazy the shoe Bill might be the dumbest. bird shoe Bill even though it makes that. cool ass sound oh yeah they're cool have. you ever seen that [ __ ] thing a shoe. Bill stupidest bird in the wild they. make a sound that sounds like gunshots. like they slap their jaws together and. they stand like that that's what it. looks like see how the thing standing up. that thing's like 5T tall imagine a 5.

foot tall bird with those evil eyes and. that giant face look at his [ __ ]. mouth look at that beak get a video of. that's the dumbest Bird that's what it. says I mean there's multiple articles. repeating the dodo was a really dumb. bird too right dodo um but can you do. Google shoe Bill makes noise shoe Bill. noise yeah it's really cool it sounds. like a machine gun clacking so they kind. of shake the bottom and the top of their. beak or their bill backwards and forth. at different speeds shut the [ __ ] up.

dude shut this dude up that's how you. shut this dude. [Applause]. up how crazy is that that is now imag 15. imagine that getting a hole of your face. imagine that [ __ ] massive appendage. lower down it's a big animal too man. they're big what's the height on it I. think they're like 5T tall five [ __ ]. isn't that nuts wow and they they look.

like they're from a different time they. look like they're like you went back at. 3.5 to 5 feet tall yeah I think they. look like they're from dinosaur times it. doesn't even make sense like look at. that thing you ever heard of a terror. bird no Terror Birds used to exist like. more than a million years ago right I. work in human uh you know Anatomy you're. human I work in meat fighting oh yeah I. people [ __ ] out of each other yeah and I. want to complain about I was expecting. to find some elk sticks out in your.

front I've got some yeah first time I. had it was yeah well I'm not complaining. but I asked and they said it's not. available um Jamie Google terror bird. like yeah that image with a human being. where is it right there so that is what. they look used to look like imagine that. who a 9t to 10t tall giant fight. flightless bird and they called them. Terror Birds Terror like t e r r o r.

Terror like like you'd be terrified if. you saw that [ __ ] giant bird look at. that [ __ ] scared [ __ ] list killing. horses and [ __ ] terror bird yeah it was. huge so where can we get one they don't. exist anymore when did they die off look. at it look like. woo isn't that crazy imagine seeing that. 10 ft tall wow holy [ __ ] I'll take two. please look at the side of it that's. what they used to look like that that's. well that's a recreation obviously but I. don't know where that is said it was.

based off of a fossil and Amer fossil. REM what year did they go. extinct 55 billion years ago I think it. was a couple million yeah 55 billion. years. ago it says right there when did the. terberg go. extinct uh cazic era when's that what. date was that okay January 66 oh a lot. more a lot longer ago 66 the current. geological age of earth oh it's the.

current geological age beginning 66. million years ago and continuing to the. present so when did the terror Birds go. extinct does it. say when did they go. extinct how do you pronounce that word I. think it says hold on how do you how do. you pronounce that pH. itis ferus ritis how would you say it. you're a doctor terror bird I would say.

a terror bird oh it's only thousands of. years ago they survived one of them. survived until the late place to scen 63. I mean they could have been longer dras. you know holy [ __ ] one of them survived. up until 6,000 years ago n well between. 96,000 and 6,000 I thought it was. Millions it's a late place to. see 100,000 years ago oh we're so lucky. yeah. around man ate it up right no I don't. think NE Andals were here they were. European I think uh there's probably a.

bunch of [ __ ] want to bring those. back too you know they want to bring. back the mammoth that's probably next. let's bring back they've been working on. that right yeah yeah they'll probably. just call it a different name they won't. call it a terror bird they call it. something cute yeah you know the. conservation bird he's going to make. sure that all they call it Big Bird Big. Bird yeah we're going to bring back big. bird just make him yellow so people love. hello Big Bird unbelievable yeah so. natural world So speaking of which since.

we're talking about ridiculous [ __ ] and. you are a doctor I wanted to bring this. up to you because Jamie and I were uh. exchanging text messages yesterday about. these mummies that they found in Peru. that have three fingers um not aliens. yeah well I don't they don't know what. they are but they have three fingers and. not three fingers because they cut the. fingers off they actually they're. gen fingers and their cranial capacity. it's they have a large head which a lot.

of times they think was due to you know. they would form their head and like PR. press boards to make their head stretch. out which they definitely did in some. tribes chines the question is why were. they doing that and were they doing it. to replicate something else that's it so. the thing about these is they had a. cranial capacity that is larger than. most human beings alen it looks like a. [ __ ] alien that's a [ __ ] that's. correct but is that real here's the. question appear okay three-fingered. alien mummies click on that article and.

see where where are they get in this I. know it was in yeah New York Post so. three-fingered alien mummies found in. Peru have fingerprints that do not. appear to be human so the fingerprints. that it has instead of spirals I think. they're lines and Google go scroll but. scroll back scroll back back to where. you were look at that image that's x-ray. image of their fingers so these are like. real bones and digits so this isn't just.

a a a statue that someone made right. this has real bone structure that is. exact to like what a human being has all. those little tiny muscles in the mid. hand right I mean that all looks normal. but weird with the three fingers and. three toes and so if you scroll down. you'll see more images so this is what. it looked like when they found. it so the body is C covered go back so I. could read that. please it says the body is covered with.

di how do you say that dious Earth dious. Earth a type of white powder made from. the sediment of fossilized algae found. in the bodies of water the only possible. explanation for the unusually straight. fingerprints could possibly have. something to do with the way her skin. was preserved he said noting that it's. very odd so the US medical examiners. traveled to Peru last April to study the. bodies with the lack of human. fingerprints as puzzling he said it. would be extremely premature to make any. statements about the mummy's origins so.

they know for a fact that these things. are biological and they're not created. have they done any sort of DNA look at. the look at the picture of what it. actually looks like that's [ __ ] crazy. that does look like an alien yeah I mean. that's exactly what people expect to see. at their bed in the middle of the night. yeah you said it looks like an alien it. is an alien if it's real it's so hard. and no disrespect to the post but you. know people [ __ ] not those those. those I think have proven to be. horseshit but if you scroll up scroll.

back to where you were back to where you. were that thing okay I want to know what. that is like what is that if because. it's got three fingers and three toes. and it's got an alien face it looks like. a gray it has a tiny slot for a mouth. and Tiny dots for a nose it looks like. the archetypal angel or the archetypal. Al alien rather that people see in like. close encounters with the third time. Third Kind and what was that other movie. um the the Whitley striber movie. communion communion I didn't see that.

one that's that's a weird one CU Whitley. striber is also a fiction. writer and he wrote this book about his. own personal experiences with aliens. which I want to believe him that's a. classical impression face wise of an. alien of a gray as you said 100% even. with the shape of the eye like the eyes. are kind of slanted like not like a. humans like they're at Angles just like. they always they always show them with. these kind of they look you know big. guys the Amin an image of one of them. around here somewhere don't we yeah you.

probably got aliens all over this. [ __ ] place but that classic look is. exactly what those mummies look like so. they have straight fing go back what did. you just wear three figures Jesus Christ. all these pop-ups isn't that crazy yeah. it says the humanoid three-fingered. alien mummies have straight fingerprints. that do not match those of humans. according to an attorney who reviewed. one of the controversial specimens oh an. attorney said that you believe him I. don't know that's the rest of this came. from it's because this guy didn't. believe whatever was saying so he's like. we're gonna go look so Joshua McDow a.

former col Colorado prosecutor and. current defense attorney examined one of. the tiny strange bodies named Maria uh. with three independent forensic medical. examiners from the United States scroll. it said he and the experts were shocked. to discover that the fingerprints and. the ET like corpses were in perfectly. straight lines they were not traditional. human fingerprint patterns he told the. daily mail but what did they they do an. analysis of the tissue like did they. find out that it's actually uh. biological tissue can you scroll down.

forther it doesn't say anything like. that I was trying to go to different. articles to find better so I'm a. forensic prosecutor I'm a crial criminal. defense attorney I've seen lots of. fingerprints and these were not classic. fingerprints look how weird it is look. at that image that's so crazy looking. yeah how and also how did I just find. out about this. yesterday talked about it before I know. but I I never saw it look like this what. I saw with those other ones that I think. have been proven I might be wrong but I. think at least allegedly have been. proven to not be real and that the.

person who was exposing those those. little tiny ones that were like laying. down straight that guy had a history of. uh doing some deceptive stuff allegedly. yeah so but you believe that they're. there I mean you believe that the aliens. are here I do not not believe do not not. believe so I don't disb believe you're. ambivalent as to the fact that they I. believe that they're here I would even. say I'm ambivalent I am open-minded okay. but uh you won't say yes yeah I'm.

logical I think there's a lot of. deception going on okay I think there's. also the possibility that what we're. dealing with is not as simple as we like. to think yeah these things so these. things I've heard are. [ __ ] I don't might be might be wrong. but trying to find out well. might journalist that Jane that. journalist that unveiled the bodies and. the guy who exposed the bodies the guy. who exposed the bodies I think was the. one the guy who came up with.

it that's I was trying to figure out how. so there's an issue of them being found. in Peru and taken to Mexico oh there's. already that issue okay and then where. they said they were found near nasca in. 2017 I'm trying to figure like okay who. found lines yeah that was the thing. about that that alien looking one with. the three fingers that was even more. interesting to me because that's that. area where there's these incredible. patterns that are made on the ground. that you can only see from space or not.

space the air right you can only see. looking down on them so it's like why. would anybody even make those things and. some of them look like like the images. look like animals and stuff you spiders. yeah weird stuff and some of them look. like maybe even a a person. um where go Mexican doctors who examine. the two bodies would feature elongated. heads and three fingers on each same. thing three fingers they found no. evidence of any assembly or manipulation. of the skulls but other scientists have. panned the discovery as an elaborate.

stunt Maan 70 who touted the purported. extral is the most important thing that. has happened to humanity has denied any. wrongdoing scroll down look at that how. [ __ ] weird yeah I believe that there. are aliens why do you believe that why. do I believe that why would be why would. we be the. only people on a planet when there are. millions and billions of planets out.

there and we've reached a level of. technology that allows us to send a ship. to the Moon anticipation with musk to go. to you know to Mars and so forth how. about there are other uh people on other. planets who have accelerated been there. millions of years longer than we have. why isn't it that they're able to come. to us to see what we're doing doing. we're going out to other planets to see. what you know was on other planets I. believe that you know there are other.

people out there according to the UFO. afficionado by the way as as you say. according to UFO offici I already. started looking at your yeah uh the. analysis showed that the humanoids are. not related to any known Earthly species. and that onethird of their DNA is. unknown there you go well take it and. map it let's make a new one yeah let's. look at the DNA Rel to ours get those. mask on guys and introduce. Simeon U biology into them and turn it. into a new kind of alien yeah just do a. 23 and me says the specimens are not a.

part of our evolutionary history of. Earth um the university has since. distanced itself from Maan claiming its. scientists took no part in the research. and never came in contact with the full. corpses in no case do we make. conclusions about the origin of these. samples University's national laboratory. of mass spectrometry with acceleration. accelerator said in a statement okay. the presence of carbon 14 allegedly. detected in the specimens proved the. samples were related to brain and skin.

tissues from different mummies who died. at different times what does that mean. yeah from one individual is that saying. from one individual the presence of. carbon 14 allegedly detected in the. specimens Pro that the samples were. related to brain and skin tissue from. different mummies who died at different. times so they're all different they come. from different times and they're all. different little mummies so that's what. they're saying so what they're saying is. that the carbon isotope.

dating is showing that that's what it is. right is that what they're saying think. so okay so how do you account for the. fact that in in Egypt and in the Mayan. rooms so forth hold on this is our buddy. Ryan US Navy P pilot Ryan Graves who. attended the hearing to share his. personal experience with alleged UFO. sightings later slammed mound's. presentation as a stunt he said. yesterday's demonstration was a huge. step backwards for this issue Graves. wrote on X formerly Twitter I am deeply.

disappointed by this unsubstantiated. stunt well he's a very legitimate guy. Ryan Graves is and very intelligent and. if he's saying it's a stunt now I'm. super skeptical he's a okay he has a. history of making controversial claims. about other alien remains that have been. wildly discredited widely discredited. okay in 2017 he participated in a TV. doctor doumentary about other specimens. recovered near peruse nascal lch which. experts have said to have been concocted.

out of modified mummies yeah so I wonder. if they're talking about that other. thing when they're saying that this is. all older than the one we were looking. at the one we're looking at when did. they find that one when did they find. that alien that's I it's said the same. time that's why I was trying to get into. this and the sources aren't great it's. all this says they're all coming from. the same area around the same time but. they it all look different yeah that. looks super different that one looks. more like the way something you'd find. dead like the way it's like even the way.

its legs are rotted away like it it. doesn't look fake that one video we. watched or we you sent me was getting. more towards like they could have been. found in a burial type site that other. um groups used similar things where did. they find this one though this is the. one I'm interested in it doesn't say. specific but the fact that they did an. x-ray and they show the actual fingers. and toes. it looks just like real fingers and real. toes with actual bones that's crazy. cubor bones the failings they you know.

they're consistent with you know looking. at human hands right but it's consistent. with a human hand that would have three. fingers right it doesn't have there's. not missing digits so you say it's. genetic abnormality so they only have. three fingers it could be well there's a. group of people in Africa that have like. bird feet have you ever seen them no. they have toes it's like a genetic. mutation that exists and it's thought to. be be like a prize thing and these. people have like two toes to and their. their feet Branch off like this and.

there's a bunch of people in this. Village that have these feet that are. like this I forget what they call them. like bird feet or I forget how they. describe them yeah these are the folks. so see that yeah so now if you found. these guys and there's not just one of. them substantial minority of voma have a. condition known as extro you said that. you're the doctor ecta ecta which means. the middle three toes are absent and the. two outer ones are turned in resulting. in the tribe being known as the two-toed. or ostrich footed tribe so go to images.

and see what that looks like it's really. wild because there's like a bunch of. them hanging out together like look at. their feet so now if you found a body. that had those you would say oh those. are aliens no but look at that alien if. you go back to the one that was original. with the eyes and the face and the siid. these are Grays okay well it certainly. looks like what I a gray would be and. the fact that it doesn't have a thumb is. odd too but that is also one of the. things that people have said about these.

things there's also this they always has. always have said that they have very. long fingers and you look at his fingers. in relationship to the size of the body. they're very long long fingers and very. long. toes yeah I mean so how do you account. for the fact that there are multiple you. know from the Assyrians to the Egyptians. to the uh Aztecs. totech Mayans where they have on their. uh on their structures they have imagery.

of flying saucers helicopters on alien. you know there's a couple with the they. look. alien I think the helicopter one I think. is a fraud you think it's all fraud I. think that one is I think that's. photoshopped I think it is but yeah um. I'm pretty sure that's been shown but. the planes that they found that are like. wooden carved planes like they look like. airplanes that have they've found in. tombs that's fascinating they have a. Rudder they have a tail they have wings.

and it looks like a plane yeah so how do. you count for that how do you count for. that well I don't know what we're. looking at and I think there's more to. reality than we see I have a feeling. that our senses are extremely limited. and that there's other dimensions that. we don't have access to that might have. access to us I don't necessarily. discredit the idea of something.

traveling from another planet right I. think we might be dealing with that too. I think we might be dealing with a bunch. of different civilizations and entities. that are at very different stages of. evolution so if life exists all. throughout the Galaxy we we know a bunch. of things right we know that planets. have certain ages we know that some. planet planets are very old and some. planets are much younger and we know. that some planets are much closer to the. Sun and some planets live in a very.

hospitable environment we know that some. planets like ours are essentially in a. shooting gallery because there's 900,000. near Earth objects or more that are. flying around slamming into things and. if it wasn't for Jupiter we'd be [ __ ]. if it wasn't for Jupiter's enormous. gravity and mass pulling everything into. it that's like basically our catcher it. catches all the [ __ ] that f into our. solar system and slams into Jupiter and. of course the moon itself is Pock marked. with so imagine a planet that doesn't.

have that issue imagine a planet that. has a different environment where. there's not a bunch of [ __ ] flying. around and they think that flying around. stuff is largely the part of collisions. like planets colliding with each other. in the distant past and that's actually. how Earth got formed you got a bathroom. yeah go go go go go this is a good time. I'm investigating this stuff J. investigating yes I'm excited. investigate why would there be say go. pee go pee come on buddy thanks to the. left to the left yeah this dude's.

already lit he's had three giant glasses. of uh whiskey he's 78 years old yeah I. got a clear picture of that egg too from. God I hope my brain works that good but. I'm 78 you know what I'm saying like. that dude just he doesn't even have any. notes he's just pulling all his. information out of the ether uh so the. guy who took him you mean to wait which. the egg no no uh [ __ ] the egg this is. the nasami stuff oh yeah uh he said he. removed as many as 200 sets of remains. from the cave whoa some of the bodies.

have been smuggled out of Peru to France. Spain and Russia oh in an interview with. Reuters he said. um this is from what would you do let's. ask this what would you do if somebody. got you one of them mummies if somebody. say hey Jamie give me that money that. you won from Shane oh look at that whoa. the same thing though three toes yeah. look how long the [ __ ] toes are I. think that's where the X-ray comes from. is these oh it's the same guy this McDow.

guy oh the same guy keeps finding him. yeah it's the same people little sus. right they found about eight I think is. what they're saying here and then the. mcdow's father is saying they're a hard. having a hard time getting them to the. US to do more studies oh yeah super hard. cut the [ __ ] [ __ ] already call disapp. he'll shoot a rocket over there pick. those things up quick um let me see this. skull again have they done an x-ray of. the skull why wouldn't they do that uh I. had an x-ray on one of these of the. skull oh Jesus.

Christ holy [ __ ] dude it looks like aull. small ones though yeah but whatever look. at that could be. eggs what I don't know what is that like. the ribs look imagine if you found out. those are like anal toys and they're. just freaks I do believe one of these. they were saying was made up of. different animal parts and stuff come. sit down and put a microphone. on so we're looking at X-rays of one of. them was [ __ ] look at the [ __ ]. X-rays of the skulls man like you're a.

doctor look at that that looks like real. [ __ ] right that looks like real yeah. looks like real. bones completely different x-ray shows. it the cavium the space for the brain. what is that thing across his chest. what's that thing shows up there instead. of the sternum it's their former sternum. yeah I guess right it's like sternum. holds our two sides left and right. together maybe it had surgery yeah maybe. it had surgery implant Jesus yeah maybe.

that's it's like neuralink where's this. from uh so this is I found I was like. digging more this is a slight this is. from this year look at that one look at. that show that to Dr Gordon look at the. same thing different finger the long. fingers long toes same thing three yeah. and real similar in the way they. look Peru so all these are coming out of. Peru. they all came from the same area that's. when you disappeared uh they said. they've gotten close. to well you disapp disappeared he just.

went to the bathroom. Jamie disappear just had a come on. Christ it's like he left you yeah look. look at that x-ray of the skulls the. skeletons though rather so fascinating. yeah those look really it looks very. weird this is what I was seeing too the. videographer isn't known uh um they. don't know who shot this video mhm well. it says the videographer behind the new. footage is unknown in no small measure.

due to the thorny legal and ethical. dimensions of handling these allegedly. historical and culturally Priceless. ancient remains that makes sense I don't. know exactly shot the video but there. are context clues in the longer uh. version one source who had also given uh. also been granted the tape told. dailymail.com one of they call them. hueros. who has long been involved in the. promotion these nasca mummies was. convicted of assault on public monuments. for taking artifacts in 2022 so if you.

take these artifacts they go after you. the man received a fouryear suspended. sentence was fined about 20,000 Peruvian. Souls is $. 5,190 according to Reuters a clear. example of the high-risk extra legal. measures some have taken to seek either. truth or profit from these aliens that. makes sense so it's dangerous to pull. them out you can get in trouble. so then I think the I was getting to to. was the uh the journalist yeah has a.

lawsuit he's taking the Peruvian. government to court hoping to negotiate. with Peru as he put it to be allowed to. export the samples to be done in America. the law suit is already in for $300. million wow explain he's pursuing. monetary damages to repair his. Enterprises damaged reputation but. intends to spend the cash on a museum. for the mummies and hookers and a. Ferrari I want Ferrari. and Dr McDow himself was also recently. pled with the with Peru's government in.

an open letter published in one of the. country's top newspapers asking for. official permission to study these. specimens at Top Flight scientific. facilities in the US well I like that I. like that at least he's trying to get. them if it's true that he's trying to. get them studied but you imagine if you. were one Doctor Who did find these. things you would receive a tremendous. amount of skepticism and [ __ ] like. me like making fun of him West Hollywood. at the M yeah uh interesting stuff man. so when you look at that as a doctor.

does that look like horseshit to you or. does it look real no it looks real I. mean the x-rays that you were showing. you know the fact that they came from uh. NASA with all those lines and I know. about Mau Picchu in matu picu which is a. really amazing place that they to this. don't really understand how they built. it. correct uh Allison went there to Pichu. yeah so she was chewing on uh she was. chewing on coca leaves in a candy and so. forth but I gave.

her I gave her Diamox so that she can. acate oxygen Diamox is the tablet you. take to boost your mushrooms good for. that too there's a lot of things good. for this is a pharmaceutical pill but. you know in my mind knowing that it's. nasca lines and the association of. possible aliens and then finding these. you know these corpses coming from uh. nasca you know you put one in one. together and it it makes sense that sort. of sort of it also makes sense that if.

you were going to hoax things that's. where you would hoax them correct I got. it and that's skepticism that you have. for it well I'm just being rational I'm. not being skeptical I'm honestly not. skeptical I'm kind of open you don't. believe that it's real I don't know if. it's real oh yeah I like to think it's. real but that's the problem is that I. really want so what do you do you say. it's not real but it looks real I don't. say nothing okay I just talk [ __ ]. that's what got you here that's what. we're doing we're just talking [ __ ] I. don't know I'm not an expert in biology. I don't I mean the skeleton looks real.

to me but what do I know if I was going. to make a fake skeleton could I do that. with a bunch of like discarded bones. maybe but what I'm skeptical about is. the way the joints they extend the. fingers well not just the fingers yeah. but they look like ours right like the. same way if you go back to that uh. skeleton again please correct if you. look at it um in the X-ray what you see. is the bone bones they're formed that. they're very similar to the way ours are. formed correct where at the end of it. not not the one of the actual skeleton.

Jamie yeah so like look how the bones. are at the top and where the joint is. that looks like how our bones are like. this the hinge in the joint of the elbow. looks exactly like how a humans is. except it's one bone instead of two. which is let's be honest probably a. better designed yeah you know the two. bones that little I broke that one. before youever broke the little one the. little owner Yeah I broke the fibula too. whoa the small one yeah the small one on. the leg and uh check kick no kickboxing. kickboxing not even checking a kick I.

just we were kicking at the same time. and he hit my shin it looks. suggestive okay of it being something. that might be real it definitely looks. suggestive of something that might be. real and very unique right very. different than our anatomy and it's our. prejudice that says that oh we're the. only people here well I don't think that. what do you think I don't know yeah I. don't I think. there's I think the possibility that. something could be so Advanced that all. of our ideas of how it got here and how.

long it's been here are just silly I. think we might be just like these people. in the Amazon that my friend Paul rosley. is running into they don't know that he. goes on The Joe Rogan Experience and. reaches 15 million people they don't. have any idea they have no idea so what. they what do they see they see some guy. with clothes on like what's this [ __ ]. doing and you know he's out there in the. Amazon and you know and then he takes a. picture and this is their experience. with him is probably kind of similar to. our experience but except like much more.

exaggerated with aliens like if you came. into contact with something that's a. million years more advanced than us like. what would that contact be like would. why I mean are we so limited in our. understanding. of how you move through the universe. that we assume that everything has to. use rockets and everything has to burn. fuel and shoot things and to Defy. Gravity by you know by pushing against. It Maybe not maybe there's much more. advanced propulsion systems that exist.

check this out these are the hands yeah. they're dissecting it they're dissecting. it. whoa what the [ __ ]. man whoa yeah the dissection know look. like that looks like weird bones in a. hand that's. creepy that's so creepy look at their. skin I mean obviously mummified but how. [ __ ] weird how weird look at the. bones underneath it that's. crazy that is so crazy and you're going.

to tell me someone put this together as. a joke well I don't know I mean I'm. looking at this I don't know I don't. know who's a part of this but when he. peels that back and you see those bones. again that is [ __ ] nuts yeah that's. so. wild but also why are those bones so. clear for a mummified thing those bones. look in my mind they don't look. mummified they look like more recent but. what do I know it almost looks wet go.

back to that image yeah it was sweat. Shin the other thing was shiny too right. so is that because they put something on. it or is that what happens when you cut. that thing open I try to find a longer. video and see figure out how they did. them putting like distilled water on it. during the process of uh dissecting it. yeah to dissect itan maybe they're. trying to clean off the bones and they. did something to it to brush it and put. water on it there you know whatever is. how old did they say that that was. that's a good question did they carbon. date it.

or car see that would be the thing to do. is the carbon data to find out whether. or not if it's that old then it should. be petrified and therefore it shouldn't. look like that right right like if it's. a million years old if it's a million. years old if it's only 500 years old. totally different story so the way that. the bone should look yeah yeah it's. weird as [ __ ] yeah but the thing is like. there's so many people that. essentially make a living off of lying. they they make a living off of. bullshitting yeah you know yeah there's.

a lot of that going on yeah so. religiously I mean look at from a. religious standpoint what's the impact. of acknowledging that there are other. species in extraterrestrials what's the. impact on religion here in the United. States or here in the world depends on. which religion you're talking about. right it doesn't matter I think the. Vatican has been open to the idea that. we're not alone and that God could. possibly have created other life forms. see that's true I'm pretty sure that's. true I think the Vatican gave a.

statement within the last decade or so. about this yeah but they probably know. some [ __ ] right yeah they probably have. it you lot of you've seen some of the. Russian stuff yeah you've seen some of. the Russian studies that I mean where. they had aliens who crashed in a in a. flying saucer and they abused the AST. the aliens Vatican astronomer says if. aliens exist they may not not need. Redemption oh that's cool Jesus gave him. a fuckon h pass Blessed Be those who. come from other planets they may be a.

different life form that does not need. Christ's Redemption the vatica Vatican. Chief astronomer said that makes sense. yeah I mean if they come from somewhere. else difficult to exclude the. possibility that other intelligent life. exists in the University noted that one. field of astronomy is now actively. seeking biomarkers and Spectrum analysis. of other stars and planets that's true. they definitely have done that these. potential forms of life could include. those that have no need of oxygen or. Hydro or hydrogen he said uh just as God. created multiple forms of life on Earth.

he said there may be diverse forms. throughout the universe that makes sense. that's an open-minded religious person. it's not in contrast with faith because. we cannot Place limits on the creative. freedom of God that makes sense yeah if. you're going to be logical and be uh. believer in God that's the way to do it. right to say look if God exists we just. might be too limited in our. understanding of the world to think that. we we think that God just made us and. this is it but it might be God has made.

life all throughout the Universe yeah if. you believe in God you have to accept. the fact that he's on other planets. we're not the exclusivity maybe God is. the universe well that's what they've. been saying God is the universe the. universe is God yeah which makes sense. because the universe is a creative force. it makes things constantly it's. constantly making Stars there's Stellar. nurseries and planets and so what's your. take on Bigfoot these days I think. Bigfoot is mostly nonsense that is a. sort of a historical memory I think for.

sure we know that gigantopithecus was a. real animal that Co coexisted with human. beings okay and we know that what was. the what's the date of gigantopithecus. it's somewhere it's more than hundreds. of thousands of years right but it just. makes sense that if human beings have. been around for that long and that. thing's been around for that long and. then gigantic picus 200,000 years ago 2. million to approximately 300,000 to. 200,000 years ago so as recently as.

possibly 200,000 years ago but that's. essentially based on what they found now. they're constantly finding new things. right so like they didn't even know. Dennis ens were a thing a new type of. human is that the gigantic ones no. they're not gigantic they're they're. just a different like there was neander. homo Dennis oven was another group. branch of the the human tree and they. didn't discover them I want to say 2010. when did they discover Dennis ens that.

recent I think they discovered them in. Russia and they found them in China and. so they they know that there's that and. then there was another species that they. found recently that's even more recent. that's large headed people that were. they had larger heads than us that. existed with us they had like big. [ __ ] eyebrows and big heads what. about the that uh they're what 17 ft. tall 16t tall the gigantic humans that.

they're you know I don't know here's the. problem here's the problem you don't. know what is real when was Dennis. ens when they discovered that well disc. they were they lived I think 75,000. years ago but differentiate they were. like Neanderthal when did they discover. Dennis oven fossils that's what I'm. trying to figure out they had it's one. piece they found right but it was pretty. recent. 2014 yeah you're right there's a lot of. [ __ ] that's coming on the internet the.

last thing that I was reading not last. but one of the things that I read was. they found bones of people that were. like giant people giant people yeah yeah. I've heard that before I've never seen. any of I wouldn't dismiss it you know. there's giants in the Bible there's. Giants in historical record with talk. about yeah yeah it's completely possible. that if you have pygmies and you have um. you know you know about The Hobbit. people on the island of Flores no you. didn't know about that no um but they. Hobbit yeah I think they call them.

homo Flor esesis and what these are is. these little tiny AP like humanoids that. lived alongside people I think they've. dated them to 100,000 years. ago might be earlier at one point in. time I think they thought it was 10,000. years ago but I think they pushed it. back um but but these were like another. branch of the human tree and they were. really tiny and they used tools and they. hunted and they think that you know that.

they were probably wiped out at least. partially yeah homo floresiensis. floresiensis and that's what they looked. like and they lived alongside. us um so they think that might be a case. of Island dwarfism as well you know like. uh there's a thing that happens to. mammals when they're on islands where. they get smaller and. um weirdly enough reptiles get larger. that's why you have kodo dragons love.

them pretty cool right so there's Homo. Sapien and there's homo flues monster. lizards yeah there's like a bunch of. different types of of humans that that. existed and we were the most clever and. the most vicious we we win haha BAL of. the fittest yeah and the smartest we're. the smartest we're the ones that are the. most the cium the size of the skull as. it got big but the thing is this these. ones that they found recently see you. can find that article the large headed. people that they found recently another. totally new Branch they're large headed.

same height as same height same height. as ours but larger heads probably much. stronger like you know neand is far. stronger than us yeah dubb large-headed. people enigmatic group once lived. alongside Homo sapiens in eastern Asia. um according to science alert fossilized. remains Unearthed from sediment layers. dated about 200 over 200,000 years ago. revealed individuals with. disproportionately large cranial volumes. so see click on that like where they. have images 2024 just last month yeah.

real recent real recent they found this. or they they've come out with this I. think they had images of what they look. like what they think they look like like. someone did like a a detailed oh large. headed people you get regular. [Music]. [Laughter]. folks regular folks unfortunately big. heads. I got hit yeah homo julisis yeah yeah. yeah so this is another Branch look at. the size of that [ __ ].

jacked new humans yeah wild big heads. larger heads and bigger brains there you. go bigger brains than us lived 200,000. years ago it's funny because we have. them like with like a stupid Stone tool. like maybe they're smart maybe we just. [ __ ] wiped them out look at the size. of their heads though Jesus Christ. crazy look at that one there he's got a. six-pack yeah guy standing look at the. one down where he's walking like Bigfoot. click on that yeah look gu's jacked huge.

imagine. Runnings look at that yeah yeah imagine. running into that dude no back in he's. dead yeah that's probably why look at. him s yeah yo this is where photos are. helping get is awesome yeahi is. awesome look how [ __ ]. bro could you imagine walking through. the jungle and running into these dudes. like a bunch of them.

Yo what do you. want yeah look at imagine yeah there's. so much more to be found you know well. just in our own history right the. history of Earth the different forms of. life that don't exist anymore and it you. know there's so much variety that it. really does make you wonder like what. are we seeing we're seeing these alien. Bon that they x-raying what are we. seeing when you know people report that. they're experiencing contact with these. entities are they from another dimension.

are they from another planet is. everybody crazy is everybody just making. things up yeah I don't know how do you. account for all the people that said. I've been. taken yeah it's very compelling I've. been taken it's very compelling but. here's the question were they physically. taken here's the question the realm of. Dreams is a gigantic mystery and the. realm of Dreams is is hyper realistic. sometimes I had a hyper realistic dream. last night I wish I could remember what. it was but it's one of those things it. was crazy um but I I got up in the.

middle of the night it woke me up and. then I got up to pee and I was like what. the [ __ ] is wrong with me and then I. went back to sleep but while I was. experiencing that dream I remember being. aware that it was a dream eventually but. while it was all going down I was like. this is a crazy dream like thinking like. this is so vivid and so realistic so so. if you live in a dream for the rest of. your life you are still alive and you. are still experiencing things you just. experiencing things in a a non-physical.

way the way we interact with reality. today so you and I are interacting with. reality with a couple glasses of whiskey. a cigar we have a wooden table we're. talking into microphones but the reality. that you interact with in dreams is it's. it's not tangible it's existing your. experience experiencing it but it's in. some other realm it's some Realm of the. mind and some Realm Of Consciousness and. maybe what you're doing is accessing a.

dimension of possibilities that is. entirely created by Consciousness and. maybe there's multiple layers to that. and things can come from other places to. us that way it's always been interesting. to me that these people that have these. abduction experiences it seems like the. vast majority and I've read abducted. which is John Max book and you know I I. I I'm aware of the Betty and Barney Hill. story and this is uh Travis Walton the.

guy who got abducted in AR white couple. no no the Betty and Barney Hill are. Betty Barney Hill actually Angela Hill. who's the granddaughter of them is a UFC. fighter oh really yeah she didn't she. was on the podcast and didn't tell me. that until after the podcast was over. I'm like damn your grandf that's so. crazy her grandfather was Barney Hill um. but so these people all have very. compelling stories now the difference. between Travis Walton's story and the. other stories is people saw Travis.

Walton go up to that UFO Travis Walton. disappeared for five days Travis Walton. came back from being in the woods for 5. days with this crazy story and the other. people most of them it happens at night. right and so when you're dreaming like. who knows what the [ __ ] is really. happening and if you're lying in bed and. you get abducted by aliens and they. return you to your bed like what really. happened is there a video of you. disappearing or if we had like a a video. in that room would you have the same.

experience but your physical body never. goes anywhere it's like what are you. really experiencing that's the question. and I'm not doubting that these people. have something happened to them but we. do know that when people are dreaming. there's an endogenous release of. psychedelic chemicals there's this crazy. experience of dreams and vivid dreams. and lucid dreams so what is that and if. that is something that can be trans. traversed is that is that something that.

someone can enter into is it possible. that other intelligence that's different. than ours that's more advanced than ours. that lives in a different dimension than. ours has access to the mind in these in. these exchanges yeah in the subconscious. and maybe even physically I'm not even. I'm not even dismissing physical contact. but I'm just saying that many of these. cases where people claim to have been. abducted happen at night I don't think. that is a coincidence I think the the.

the realm of Consciousness is I think. we're very arrogant in our belief that. we understand what's going on how we. interface with reality no we don't we we. know we have things that we count on. because they're like every time I come. here I'm pretty sure the same garbage is. going to be on this table it's going to. be the same but I don't think we're. really sure with how consciousness. interacts with the world and how much of. it is real I agree in the subconscious. uh space you know the question is is. that when the extraterrestrials invades.

our space our psychiatric space and. therefore in in uh gives to us in our. brain the perception of everything that. we perceive meaning the um alien the um. maybe even B exra. that's what B but maybe that's what. Bigfoot is right but you think so maybe. I mean our perception unconscious maybe. something you're experiencing that's.

from somewhere else like it's maybe it's. your Consciousness interacting with. reality in a completely alien. environment that is guaranteed to give. you a heightened sense of anxiety the. woods at night right A lot of these. people are experiencing these things in. the woods at night maybe there's a level. of Consciousness you reach under those. circumstances where you interact with. things that you ordinarily cannot. interact with and maybe that's why. there's a lack of physical evidence in. our Dimension like the physical evidence.

in our Dimension is very limited one. thing that's compelling and maybe the. only thing that's compelling is dermal. rides that they find on these Footprints. so they find these Footprints in Muk. like where they they step in mud and. muck and stuff and they leave behind not. just Footprints but Footprints with. dermal ridges like fingerprints which is. very difficult to fake especially in. like the 1970s and the 1980s or some of. these things were required so it's like. I don't know what we're dealing with but. there's enough people that talk about.

that experience and it makes you pause I. don't believe but I don't disbelieve and. as far as uh Bigfoot being an actual. large ape that lives undisturbed in the. Pacific Northwest I'm very skeptical. because there's too many Hunters now and. too many people with cameras and too. many camera traps there's too many cell. phones cameras you know where they they. uh trail cameras snap things that are. going by Wildlife biologists use them we. know of like a couple Jaguars that exist.

in the United States and the reason why. we know about them is because of trail. cameras so the fact that there's zero. trail camera footage that's aliot yeah. it doesn't the Bigfoot thing is like. maybe but maybe you're inter maybe. you're interacting with something that's. not physical it might be something. that's interdimensional or something. that you you might be looking at the. past you might be interacting with. whatever. experience this thing has had many many.

many many years ago it's like left. Echoes it might be echoes in space and. echoes in time and that under certain. States you can briefly access these. Echoes briefly access the these things. that that may have existed or might. exist in other dimensions. I'm not ruling it out yeah I wouldn't. bet the house on it I wouldn't bet the. house on it but sounds I do think. there's a lot of [ __ ] artists too. though I've talked to a lot of big.

people that are [ __ ] artists yeah. the the balance that obviously you're. talking about is the fact that there are. so many people who are trying. to present the factual evidence that it. exists that causes you to doubt. it so you know I believe that there's a. possibility. of all the things that we talked about. from Bigfoot to aliens and so forth but. there's a tempered uh perception of it.

as being reality that it might be there. but we would rather deny it as opposed. to accept it because what happens if you. accept it as 100% truth what is the. mindset on well you can't accept it as. 100% truth unless you have 100% evidence. yeah you want to have phys you want to. have physical evidence but we don't have. it so you know who believes in Him. pardon you know who really believes in. Bigfoot no Jane Goodall oh okay gorilla. lady yeah did you ever heard her talk. about it no why does she believe in it.

she believes from all the eyewitness. sightings and the possibility and you. know her time living with primates right. see if you can find Jane Goodall talking. about it because when she talks about it. she talks about it with great enthusiasm. it's really interesting enthusiasm with. fact facts to back it up or just the. large number of people who have stated. that they've seen it or experienced it. or I don't know um one thing though is. like when she was saying this was quite. a while ago like more than a decade or.

two ago and I think that you know over. time when there's still no evidence. people get more and more skeptical I've. talked to a bunch of people that have. had Bigfoot experiences I don't. necessarily believe any of them I don't. disbelieve them but I was like there's. not one sto I've talked to UFO Abduction. people and I believe them I believe them. you believe them yeah I believe Travis. Walton I talked to that guy he does not. seem like a [ __ ] artist and he. hasn't changed his story in like [ __ ]. 30 years. Bigfoot everybody talks to me about I I.

would I'm romantic I would like Bigfoot. to exist I've met people who swear. they've seen Bigfoot and I think the. interesting thing is every single. continent there is an equivalent of. Bigfoot or sasquat there's the yeti. there's the Yari in Australia there's. the Chinese Wild Man and and on and on. and on and you know I've had stories. from people. who you have to believe them so there's.

something I don't know what it is I've. always. open-minded what. about yeah supposedly mythological I. guess I should say like The Lochness. Monster Lochness Monster obviously. doesn't exist uh Al beings alien beings. what you think I don't I think that it. doesn't make sense think we're the only. intelligent form of life this wall that. was built between us we're we're just. the only really intelligent capable of. this that and the other um difference in.

kind between us and the other animals. that wall is broken down and The Chimps. help to break it down do you The Chimps. help to break it down well her. experience with chimps you know she's. been embedded with chimps. yeah I don't I I definitely don't not. believe like I said don't disbelieve. it's not like say aliens aren't real. UFOs aren't real it's all lies all the. people are lying I don't think that at. all I think the the I think reality is.

weird I think it's weirder than our. senses are capable of detecting that's. what I think absolutely I tend to be. more on the side that they exist until. you prove that they don't exist you know. what's really weird is underwater aliens. underwater extraterrestrials or. underwater Oh the cities uaps I don't. know about cities there cities in under. there yeah cities where they have their. uh spaceships at the uh trenches in the. trenches yeah I I've never seen any data. no yeah but I have seen the point.

there's video of things moving. underwater at very high rates of speed. in fact um some of the whistleblowers. and again how much that's real uh but. some of the whistleblowers from the. government have claimed that they have. detected things underwater that are. enormous like the size of a football. field and they're moving 500 knots. underwater with uh which no visible. means of propulsion correct they think. that this is where they hide in plain. sight they just exist in the water so.

those videos that have come out recently. of the uh Navy aviators who have uh. chased UFOs that have gone into the. water and they've seen these large. Reflections under the water of huge uh. space ships and so forth i't I haven't. heard any of like I've I've heard there. was the commander David fraver. the Tic Tac event where there was this. thing that was like 20 foot wide it. looked like a Tic Tac and they think. there was something under it in the.

water there was a disturbance that. looked like you know like like an. underwater Submarine that's emerging or. reaching the top of the surface and then. when they were flying near it it went. down and then there's been other people. other Pilots that have actually seen. large physical crafts in the water um. but again I have never seen any photos. that's that are compelling so the. chasing of that. UAP yeah is that real or is that that. wasn't chased the the the what they call.

those um you what do they call them. extra medium and. intermedium um trans medium they call. them trans medium crafts which means. they can fly in the air and they can fly. through the water right um they they. have seen things dunk into the water. they have video of one but it's very. grainy it's very grainy night vision. thermal vision of this thing dunking. into the water and then they don't know. what happened then it came out of the. water it was was flying around again. they don't know what the [ __ ] that is. they they're just guessing and looking. at the physics of it the fact that it.

was able to do a 90° uh change in motion. oh yeah and then down into the water and. then coming up how do you for that czy. you don't yeah the really crazy one is. the Tic Tac because the Tic Tac they. have a bunch of different types of data. they have first of all the pilots who. saw it they have the video of from the. Pilot's cabin. they have um this radar footage that. track this thing going from above 50,000. miles to 50 ft in like one second they.

don't know how the [ __ ] anything can do. that and then it takes off when they. video it this thing taking off from. their their visual from their uh. recording their screens it takes off at. such an insane rate of speed they said. anything biological just be turned to. jelly instantly because of the the. GeForce insane it's just insane rates of. speed and no no visible means of. repulsion it does it from a completely. stationary perspective and then takes. off yeah yeah they've talked about uh. dimensional uh the fact that those uh.

unidentified flying objects they go into. a different dementia Dimension as well. you know dementia demen yeah dementia. they're in a state of dementia this is. the one that goes in the water yeah so. look how grainy this is it's like what. am I looking at so the fact that it's. grainy means what well they're just. looking at it from a a long. with aircraft you know Optics this these. are weapon Optics right so graininess. means it's less dark out well it's dark.

out and this is how they're seeing this. thing and then it just goes into the. water and then if you hear it you hear. the recording hear the recording Jamie. yeah listen to them freak out when it. yeah they're they're. freak right into the water yeah so the. thing went into the water and then also. went out of the water TI yeah um but the. thing is how many of these things are. ours not zero how many of these things. like have you ever seen that underwater. drone that the United States has.

developed no I [ __ ] cool looks like a. UFO looks like a UFO that flies. underwater it goes underwater it's not I. don't think it goes above the water I. think it only goes underwater but it. looks like a spaceship yeah but with the. rate of. acceleration and the ability to change. direction MH you know those are things. that are in the reality in the real. world you know the physics behind it as. you said everyone if it went in that. rate of ascent or descent and movement.

it would kill everybody inside right. momentum yeah but then the question is. like what is it doing is it actually. experiencing gForce at all because if. it's some sort of a gravity propulsion. device it might be experiencing no. gForce right and it might be just. pushing space out of the way as it moves. forward we don't understand that's like. do we have that technology it's a good. question yeah it's a good question if we. have that technology then it explains it. all but the question is as long as we.

don't acknowledge the fact that we're at. that level of Technology then you have. to account for where's it coming from. right there's definitely a lot of. questions I mean I definitely don't. claim to have any answers yeah what is. this one but cool thing oh yeah look at. this sucker look at this this is the one. that goes this is a drone that we. developed it's like a manta ray drone. it's really cool. looking well it's not so mini it's. pretty big is it but look at it it looks. like a [ __ ] UFO that goes under the.

water and it flies through the water and. also like what what are we looking for. are we looking for foreign subs or are. we looking for. aliens both I wonder yeah I wonder I. wonder that's imagine if they knew some. stuff was under the ocean they don't. want to tell anybody because they don't. want to freak people. out duh. yeah duh yeah I've seen articles where. it talks about cities communities. underneath the ocean in the San Andre. not San Andre's fault what is that fault.

line called um not the fault the uh. outside of California no no no the. deepest uh Mariana Trench are there. cities down there what are where what. websites are you reading I think I know. it as algorithm you know what I'm. talking. about I'm not using Simon no or ibigan. or. RKA normal so I haven't heard anything. about cities in the Mariana Trench Jamie. have you heard anything about cities. look it up but I know where I'm headed.

you know I know be on this YouTube. channel I know I haven't smoked anything. or taken any pills you've been drinking. whiskey since that's nothing come on. quite a bit of that whiskey sir n Jes. nothing that's a lot glutathione yeah I. don't know if it totally helps you sound. a little hammered you think yeah give me. another one in glutathion another you. need another one okay how many you got. yeah I got how many do you take while. you're drink I took two I took one early. this morning and then just took another. one cuz I figured we'd finish the bottle. Jesus you with the finishing the bottle. you're going to die from that no nick.

who's sitting outside he and I sit down. and we'll drink a bottle yeah you know. over a period of about four hours you. might want to go to a AA meeting uh you. think been there what is the um Mariana. Trench cities all about no it's it's not. the Mariana it's one of the trenches. that are out there in the. world just Google trench underwater UF. UFO yeah that's a goodle you're going to. go right to Reddit yeah you know what.

we've been on this on this discussion. about uh bears and uh Marana trench and. UFOs and abductions and so forth fun. stuff yeah it's you know it reminds me. of 438 where we were talking about every. [ __ ] thing I mean you blew me out of. the water with that I'll tell you the. truth we were there for three and a half. hours on the first one and when I left. the studio because I thought it was in. Woodland Hills I thought it was only. supposed to be like 30 minutes or so oh. yeah yeah but I left and I sat in my car.

for an hour to. recuperate from that first visit with. you it was just Way Beyond that yeah. yeah if there really are things that are. monitoring us and checking us out it. makes sense yeah if they if life exists. and it's more advanced than us somewhere. else with whether it's in another. dimension or it's on another planet it. completely makes sense to me that they. would visit us yeah they want see how. [ __ ] up we are in terms of nuclear. weapons how sure sure and if we're on a.

path a predictable path of evolution. that almost all intelligent life goes on. there's probably going to be pitfalls. that they could help us navigate I would. think so I would hope so right like if. Jane Goodall studying The Chimps like. let's imagine they're still studying The. Chimps 500 years from now a thousand. years from now 100,000 years from let's. imagine civilization still exist chimp. still exist we've protected it we've. done a smart thing and they still what. if they start making tools what if they. start making weapons what if they. eventually start going to war with each.

other what if one chimp figures out. gunpowder look if their brains keep. growing like ours allegedly did sounds. like us yeah right so imagine imagine if. we were observing emerging intelligence. in other primates other than us how. would we handle it like how would we. handle it if all of a sudden chimpanzees. not all of a sudden but hundreds of. thousands years now CH what what would. our future Society do if in the future. chimpanzees start developing weapons and. buildings and planes and and doing all.

the [ __ ] that we do when we're far more. advanced than that then is that Planet. of the Apes well it's not because like. you would think that they would become a. different thing you know they would. become like we did right like we used to. be Australopithecus we used to be all. these different hominids what if they. eventually become like more hairless. they start wearing clo it would be. [ __ ] real interesting to see how. human beings would handle that you know. like what would we do a million years. from now if hominids kept advancing down.

an. evolutionary plane right and they. eventually got to a place where they. were like ancient. humans how would we do I mean if we were. like super Advanced like oh you guys. can't go to war don't War we stopped War. a while ago you guys need brain chips. brain chips stop the war yeah yeah yeah. interesting interesting well I mean it. is interesting because like what's. different between us and any other uh. people that have ever lived is that. we've figured out a way to optimize your.

health in a very substantial way in the. past someone who was my age I'm 57. someone who's my age your body's. probably broken you know your body is. probably like beaten down your hormones. were dead you know you're probably like. real tired all the time you know and I'm. not you know and because of vitamins. hormones and all the different things. that I do to keep my body healthy and. exercise and we're live in a different. time and because of that you stay vital. you have Vitality lot much longer than.

anyone ever did before so you can. explore things and and and you have more. curiosity and energy for thought more. than anybody ever has. before yeah with. the wow all right yeah you do see nope. good. he does it J Jamie practices every night. with different dudes he does yeah I can. imagine no uh one of the greatest.

fallacies is that as we age we don't. need to do anything to reinvigorate our. body right supplements are very. important hormones are key exercise. exercise important because of as I said. about the brain dve neurotrophic Factor. you can increase it to improve brain. there's a guy out of USC uh Caleb fch. Finch Caleb Finch who talked. about he believed that the reason for.

why we age and we die is because we lose. our hormones in our brain and therefore. extremely important where's uh Scotch. yeah there it. is that's what you need more of that no. I need to clear throat yeah look at that. I got my voice back yeah so uh in as you. said you're 57 years of age I'm 72 years. of age and I think the reason why I'm at. 72 with the level of uh Clarity and uh. functionality aside from my back is the.

fact that I've always 30 years I've been. a hormone replacement. nutriceutical uh getting in good. vitamins so forth because our body loses. it over the course of time and you need. to keep replacing it and the people who. are listening to this have to might. understand that um you need to. supplement you need to be Pro active on. your quality of Health otherwise you. start losing it and exercise not just. for that but also just to maintain your. physical presence your strength your. bone density you know at at my age.

people say I still have my pecs I still. have my you know trimness and fitness I. don't know about uh General energy. because do you still do martial arts. anymore uh no I sto doing the martial. arts what I do in place of martial arts. is I dig holes and we talked about that. and put plants. in other holes digging holes is hard. work yeah I remember one time you sent. me a email says be careful because I was. using a big Pike to to cut holes in the. in the ground but I end up with uh.

lemons and I make lemon cello. pomegranates make pomegranate wine and. so forth I sensing a trend here yeah uh. and I I sent you some com quats did you. ever get the com quats I said did you. eat them yes I did okay yeah high in. vitamin C A Lot ofat are really good for. you awesome much more high in vitamin C. apparently than even um oranges oranges. right every morning I have three of them. that's great three of them and it's. great do you take liposomal vitamin C as. well uh I take liposomal I take.

liposomal vitamin C see yeah yeah yeah I. take that stuff too let's. see that's such a great thing too if. you're sick is uh high does intravenous. vitamin C it's a a big one IV yeah IVs. let's see yeah I had a skeptical friend. of mine who dismisses all kinds of. quackery he was real sick with the flu. he couldn't get over it for weeks and I. I told him listen man I'm going to hook. you up do this get IV zinc and vitamin C.

and high dose vitamin C and b12 and he. was better immediately he said 24 hours. later he couldn't kick this [ __ ] flu. he said I had it for two weeks yeah in. 23 years I've been sick 16 days that's. amazing that's that's it I never got. well let me be honest I got covid for 12. hours 12 hours 12 hours tested twice. positive for covid it was a Wednesday um. let's see it was Wednesday I think we.

were having Yumer no we were having uh. pesak PES Passover and I got sick that. night and uh 24 hours later no symptoms. that's amazing nothing cortin zinc a. little Ivermectin you know that's crazy. you shouldn't talk about that publicly. no I should not. yeah ion horrible [ __ ] you can talk. about it now oh good now uh you know. [ __ ] people are taking it yeah I I. think I sent you the icon paper with.

iveron f Bend disolve I have a. 76-year-old veteran who was diagnosed. with a gleon 7 you know gleon is the. grade of cancer the prostate and it was. a gleon 7 he went on 12 milligrams of. icton every day for 8 weeks and at 12. weeks he got a pet scan done special pet. scan done looking at um abnormalities in. the prostate they couldn't find anything. that's amazing and his PSA prostatic. specific engine when he came when his.

initial one with the cancer was 12 uh. six he's now at 5.3 is that your phone I. don't. know what does this cell phone sound. like sounds like that it does um what do. you think about all the people that are. very yeah you had a Samsung phone it's. definitely yours significant is that a. Google phone or a Samsung phone Google. Google you like that let me Shut yeah I. like it they keep on trying to get me. out of the the first grade first. generation into the seventh until it. dies oh yeah I use it yeah ride or die.

huh yeah I don't like the software they. put in there Google just gave me the new. pixel 9 XL Pro it looks sick and then. they gave me the pixel fold as like a. gift when I went to the inauguration. thing yeah it's pretty SI oh you were. there at the yeah I wouldn't the fold. seems crazy I'm addicted enough to. watching YouTube videos on a reg phone I. don't need a [ __ ] tablet that I take. have you seen what huawei's made oh. Huawei they're banned in America cuz. they're too awesome and also they spy on. you but Huawei has developed a.

three-fold and apparently Samsung's. going to come out with one next year. twofold it's a three-fold though it. literally comes out to like a 10-in. tablet it's and it's very thin wow look. at this wow yeah I saw look at that I. saw that that's a threefold TW fold yeah. that's the huway three-fold yeah and. super thin amazing cameras they they. were so Advanced I was trying to get a. Porsche Design Huawei phone they they. were working with you know Porsche.

Design makes a bunch of things they make. like uh watches and sunglasses they. don't just make cars like Porsche Design. is like a separate entity of Porsche and. Porsche Design work with Huawei to me. like the ultimate cell phone and I was. ready to buy it because I'm a dor you. I'm really into technology and uh I was. like oh that thing's crazy let me get it. and then I think I had 100 me pixel. phone camera on the phone and this is a. while ago and a 500 M 5,000 milliamp. battery which was also crazy but then. they banned Huawei products in America.

so you can't get that trifold back door. right to the CCP yeah allegedly but is. isn't Tik talk too like isn't all these. things they there's a lot of back doors. there's a lot of data getting scooped up. yeah my cyber security people keep on. telling me don't use um Zoom because it. back doors into the CCP oh boy yeah. that's great so I haven't used it so I. use Microsoft the [ __ ] can you use yeah. I don't trust anybody anymore no I'm. scared I'm there with you yeah scared of. all of it yeah but I think it's all.

inevitable and I think um I think if you. look at the the what's going on like in. terms of like what's what's the. direction that technological progress. moves us into well it's a direction. seems of more and more connectivity. which means less and less privacy so. we're going to have to work that out. because when quantum computers can crack. all en encoding it's like any encryption. that exists Quantum Computing is going. to crack all that so you're not going to. have real encryption anymore so like. what happens with Bitcoin and digital.

currency what happens with all that. stuff what happens with your bank. account like I don't know. yeah weird times yeah one of the things. that scared me was in the Wi-Fi they now. could go back and using AI use the. transmitted wave form to see who's in in. a room yeah you saw that yeah accurate. 3D representations of the people moving. around yeah so I turned off all my Wi-Fi. extenders it's all crazy it's just like.

we're we're living in an ultra. surveilled world and I think the good. news is that the new government is. emphasizing privacy and freedom of. speech and the other government was. emphasizing cracking down on what they. called misinformation and disinformation. and more control of what you say and do. and where you go and the way to get more. control is more invasive technology and. that's what scares the [ __ ] out of me. yeah is people it's not necessarily the. technology it's people taking advantage. of the technology in order to have more. control of the population which makes.

their job. easier yeah that's the reason why I only. use my cell phone when I travel. otherwise I don't use it people call me. say were you said I use my cell phone. good for you yeah it's off all the time. my uh friend Adam Curry he has he's a. super paranoid May Maybe not maybe not. paranoid maybe super aware of like. digital surveillance and all that stuff. so he has a de Googled phone he has a. phone that doesn't have Google on it and.

it's uh what are those uh what's that. operating system that they use for that. stuff you remember Jamie yeah doesn't. your friend musk have a phone that's. coming up no I just asked him the other. day he said no we were talking the other. day at the inauguration I was saying but. dude every other day I get an article. about a Tesla phone he was laughing was. I hope we don't have to make a phone. this what he said I hope we don't have. to pick a phone very difficult to Pi a. phone but whoever's promoting that's it. graphine OS so graphine is deg Googled. phone so they take these pixels and they.

degoogle them and they put this graphine. OS which is a completely different uh. operating system and then you have. another phone called the unplugged phone. that uh pixel 7 yeah yeah that's it and. so they they use these things and they. work just like a phone and you can get. them where they don't have 5G cuz some. people think 5G is bad for you no I. still work off a three and four and I. don't update the software because. updating the software gives them more.

access to. you I got to go again well let's just. wrap it up we're at four o'clock okay. Mark Gordon I love you to death you're. an awesome guy I appreciate you very. much it's always good to see you um. thank you for all your research and all. the work you do and spreading. information and knowledge I really. appreciate it I I appreciate the fact. that you've supported me over all these. years in the work that we do with our. veterans and they've been receiving the. benefits of the work that we've done and. you know stopping the suicide is the.

goal for the Millennium Health Centers. that's that's it yeah and tell everybody. the website so they could find it uh the. educational one is uh www TB I think to. say www I don't have say wbe type in the. the TBI help now TBI help now.org org. and then is Warrior Angel Foundation. still Warrior Angels foundation's there. but they've melded into um yeah this is.

uh improve brain health by fixing the. root causes yeah this is biohack. yourself and I'll give a minute on it a. family called Lolly grp and if you were. in uh Washington for the um for the. inauguration the biohack uh Group which. is the loli Group which is um Anthony. and Teresa uh LLY. they're the ones who put together. biohack yourself which has been picked. up by uh Robert F Kennedy Jr as being. their representative for media because.

they're he trusts them because all they. want to do is get the science out there. that's real not the [ __ ] that's been. thrown at us so they've been pulled in. and there were 32 of us quote experts is. what they call us who participated in. this program so what they're doing is. really cool because it's presenting the. the science behind what you've already. experienced with us and what I continue. to promote for brain health for. well-being and Longevity anti-aging.

beautiful okay all right all right. thanks sir appreciate you always. appreciate thank you very much you my. friend always good to see you goodbye. everybody. [Music]. [Applause]. the.