Joe Rogan Experience #2261 - Warren Smith

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day man how are you pleasure to meet you. thank you for having my pleasure I uh I. wound up seeing you as many people did. on those uh videos that you're were. making where you were talking to. students you know just kind of like. exploring critical thinking and asking. students questions and why they're upset.

about certain things and getting to the. bottom and I'm like wow this guy's like. he's young he's obviously uh an academic. but super reasonable and like really. levelheaded I'm like we need more of. this this is really interesting and then. then I found out you got fired for doing. that and I was like if this isn't an. encapsulation of all that is wrong with. uh our current higher education system. then I don't know what is well to beir I.

didn't get fired for that technically I. think I got I got fired for posting. another one similar to it but I think. they were looking kind of that whole. thing was. so bizarre for everyone it was so big I. think there was at the school where I. teach there's kind of. one this Echo sorry I got to get used to. this one like person in control of. everything that makes these decisions. and it was so nuts I think they genuine. like we don't know what to do because if. we fire him.

it'll our name might get out there which. is their primary you know concern I. think and do you not want their name to. get out there I just no it doesn't feel. right okay I um it's not important yeah. it's not no what's important is that. what what it is is that this is a. resistance to thinking I mean it's. really what it is it's out there for. sure it's a resistance to questioning. why people have like certain like deeply.

ingrained thought processes that are a. part of an ideology and I think what you. were doing was really pretty brilliant. it was awesome and I I love the way you. were handling it it was like you know. very calm and rational and just having. discussions with students and you kind. of see like a lot of their flailing and. trying to rationalize while they have. these sort of incoherent beliefs yeah. and I don't teach critical thinking I. was when I was a teacher I was teaching.

multimedia like what we're doing now. working with cameras did a lot of. podcasting I had this lab that I. developed over four years with a bunch. of Mac computers with Adobe Premiere Pro. Photoshop a 3D printer so it was using. technology to make art at a special. education school with kids that had. behavioral challenges and some a variety. anything you could come up with we had. it there it was like the last line of. defense kind of for public schools that. couldn't handle these kids they would. send them there.

and so I would just use this Tech to. work with them in a therapeutic way kind. of that was my goal the way that would. most benefit them and so one day they. asked me to do a hey can you do a. newscast for the school like this week. at the school you know there was this. field trip the soccer team did this blah. blah blah sure and we want this kid to. be on camera and like to do he's really. good at that and he was getting really. nervous on the day and so I was like. let's just sit down you've seen like Joe. Rogan and stuff let's do like just treat. like a five minute warm-up podcast I'll.

sit down and be on camera you ask me. whatever you want well you know how have. your thoughts on Harry Potter changed. given JK Rowling's biged opinions and so. that's where the video came from so I. don't I just want to be clear I don't. teach I wasn't like we're going to sit. down and learn in the. moment we do have conversations like. that because when you are doing. something like this with students like. what are you going to talk about right. kill two birds with one stone be as. effective as you can and so a lot of. students have questions like I had. students ask me what's the difference. between.

fascism socialism what's the difference. between a Democrat and a republican they. don't know and they're genuinely curious. sometimes you can get another I had one. teacher that the music teacher I worked. closely with and he was like my best. friend there and he would be in the room. often and we would have little debates. and he was from. Romania yeah not um I think Romania I'm. blanking but and so he had a very. different political. perspective and when you're in those. debates the kids were like locked in and.

you can tell normally they're just. making noise and then they're just quiet. and they're seats they turn around and. they're like watching. it there was an effect well I think most. kids are aware that you're being forced. to think a certain way or at least to. talk about things a certain way and. they're most people are they don't like. being told what to do people don't enjoy. that and when they feel like there's. like a a lot of social pressure to.

adhere to a very specific ideology I. think people don't like it and so when. you see debates where people have. differing opinions and they have you. know these sort of logical objective. ways of describing why they think about. things a certain way uh it gets people. like okay was there another way to think. like is there like how's this guy doing. this like what is what what does this. mean like why do we have to say well why. what is wrong with what JK rling said. and it's exciting to people and the.

videos were exciting and there was a. tremendous amount of response to them I. know you're aware of that I mean there's. so many comments and so many people were. interested in them they got very. popular and then uh when I heard you. were fired I was like of course it was. too good it it gave me hope I was like. more people should be doing this at. schools and you know it would help a lot. cuz a lot of this this really sort of uh. polarized position that people are.

taking one side or the other they just. want to win and they dig their heels in. and they don't exactly even know why. they have this particular opinion that. they're defending they just know that. they're supposed to and so they just. kind of bite down and dig in and you. know and you get these shouty sort of. polarizing. arguments I've been playing with the. idea of how we see the world through. stories I think that has a lot to do. with it people kind of labeled me as the.

critical thinking guy all of a sudden so. I really started to think about it what. is critical thinking and the best I can. articulate it's it's thinking for. yourself to contend with the stories. that make up the world because a lot of. the stories are nonsense some are true. and there's usually a middle ground and. and my backgrounds in film making I kind. of fell into teaching and I've spent. time in LA and made some movies and I. teach at Emerson a film making course. still where I went to grad school and.

got my masters. in film is probably the wrong term now. because it's all digital it's like. visual media art but I think you can. study movies. today like Scholars are now studying you. know the great thinkers think movies. will be the. artifacts that people look back on for. our time you know be in museums and. things like that sure we've all been. there you're hung over thinking about. all the dumb stuff you did last night. and wonder wondering if anybody.

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about it all the time that it's a a. great sort of uh postmark for culture. like if you go back and watch movies. from the 50s and then the 60s and the. 70s the 80s the 90s the 2000s and and. then today you can see how different the. narratives are how different the way the. films are made the way people. communicate the subjects that are. covered the quality of the acting and. film making the qu quality of the.

cinematography and it's it really just. shows like if you really think about it. you. know um human civilization and human. history like a. modern society has is so recent you know. the Industrial Revolution and giant. cities and cars and transportation and. all it's so recent it's a couple hundred. years maximum you know you go from. trains and horses to cars and cities and.

then you have Morse code to all of a. sudden now you have digital. communication that's instantaneous. worldwide I mean it's it's a rapid. change in humanity and a lot of it is. it's the the artifact as you said is. really our media like what have we. created you know we were we were talking. the other day about um the limitations. of mainstream television and how. mainstream television you know they're. trying to kind of like adapt more.

towards what is going on on the internet. but they're so hampered by their format. their form the censorship the format and. the fact that they're sponsored by a. bunch of different enormous corporations. that they can't really critically talk. about so there there's a bunch of things. they can never actually say so there's. news that they can't cover there's like. significant health problems that have. probably been a direct result of.

medication that they literally can't. cover because they're being sponsored by. these compan so they're so hampered and. if you go back and watch the early. broadcast from. 1945 people had like this way of. communicating it's changed right it's. not the way like if you were having. dinner with someone and they were saying. tell me Warren where did you grow up. you'd be like oh this is not a real. person this is bizarre the. transformation in acting yeah is. remarkable remarkable right yeah you go. Marlon Brando is like Marlon Brando is.

probably like the first example of. someone yeah who's like sounds like a. real person like this is what I really. expect a person to behaving like under. on the waterfront like under duress like. this is this is a real human being yeah. it became internalized and now we're in. this phase now where I think the best. actors are doing both the external like. Heath Ledger is my favorite actor of all. time and had a huge impact on me that's. why I went into film making and he think. about his externality in the joke and. all his roles he had this I think the.

key to acting is about what is not said. what's unspoken and it ties into. everything about critical thinking it's. the best metaphor I ever got from a a. directing Professor they drew on the. board the ocean with a squiggly line and. they drew little boats on the surface. and said these are words this is. everything you need to know about. directing actors everything beneath the. surface is subtext what's really.

important so if you're an actor and I. hand you a screenplay well anybody with. given enough time can memorize those. words what's me what really sets an. actor apart is everything else what's. not said what they do with the words the. intention behind the words the words are. just floating on the surface they're. just the tools that we're trying to use. to communicate The elusive intangible. the subtext everything. that's and the best we can do our. bumbling cells or formulate with these.

tools so to treat words as the end all B. be the end all Beall is so silly you. know like people say the the wrong thing. now and you get it's Politically. Incorrect Papa John CEO right right with. no context is gone out but it's a larger. issue but it's F it's just fascinating. how that correlates Beyond just. film to because like it's true that most. commun most communication is non-verbal. so the more time you spend studying.

working with actors studying movies you. start getting really tuned into body. language it has great utility so it's. pretty yeah no it's very interesting and. so when when you doing these videos when. you initially did it did you have any. idea of the impact that it was going to. have the I mean did you did you think. like wow this is actually like really. unique and interesting and I think. people are going to really enjoy this or. did were you like really shocked I was. shocked yeah yeah I had been playing.

with YouTube as a medium since. discovering Jordan Peterson in. 2017 because I remember maybe it was. even earlier than that because I arrived. at graduate school in. 2016 Boston. Emerson and all hell breaks loose Trump. gets elected and there seemed to be a. huge push back and I had never thought. about these things before and then being. a grad student and seeing.

what I witnessed at school like protests. claiming Emerson was racist which is. like this is one of the most farle. schools I've ever seen yeah it's super. far left can you provide any evidence of. that it was just nuts and did it come. out of nowhere was it like right after. the election like did you what year did. you first attend 2016 2016 so was this. uh what time so this is like September. of 2016 August of the Academic Year so.

this is like when the elections are kind. of heating up and people didn't think. that Trump was going to win yet I. remember because I vividly remember the. day of the election because I was. renting a house with three. roommates and I was watching the. election I remember was being like guys. I think Trump might win this we're not. it's not even worth watching you know. and they were walking. around time goes by I'm like guys like. and then they started to they're like. what so no one saw that coming and I my. big takeway was how could so many.

experts get something so wrong and that. caused me to question my presuppositions. basically my view of the world and then. that opens your mind to Someone Like. Jordan Peterson and all these other. great thinkers intellectual dark web. blah blah blah you know but that in. Suddenly It's so difficult to articulate. what that does to someone like me an. average viewer like a genuine lover of. this space so it's surreal to be here. because like it suddenly causes you to. if you feel like everyone's moving in.

slow motion all of a sudden you feel. like you're waking up and it doesn't. it's I I don't want to talk about the. Matrix because it's so it's such a. strange it's gotten all this momentum in. a different but that's what it felt like. it felt like you were suddenly like how. what this is so much more interesting. and complicated than I thought and. there's no going back yeah I think we'. like to adhere to certain narratives. about the world and we we want to think. the big thing is we want to think that.

there's a central there's some sort of. competent control some sort of competent. leadership that exists and that the. structure of government and the. structure of media is. established Rock Solid and logical and. that these are the smartest people in. the world that's how they risen to this. position and now they they're there to. provide this you know like you have a.

knee injury you want to go to an. orthopedic surgeon because he is an. expert in knee injuries and he's going. to tell you what's wrong with your knee. and what can be done and you know that's. a real expert and we thought we think of. politicians and we think of the media as. being real experts well it turns out no. it turns out not even a little bit. they're terrible at it they're not just. not good at it they're really bad at it. they're really bad at it and they lie a. lot yeah they're not much smarter than. you or I and then you realize that about.

your professors like this guy really. doesn't know much more than like my my. dad or what's the what makes you a. professor what right qualifies you and. often there's just this fac and that's. what going back to that core thesis if. we see the world through stories. Professor means something yes politician. means something these are experts but. yeah they're not much different than us. when you were in school so you the the. beginning everybody's thinking there's.

no way Trump can win you know these. expert I think on the day of the. election I think they had some crazy. odds of Hillary winning it was like in. the 90% And we watched it from The. Comedy Store we did a podcast from The. Comedy Store called the end of the world. podcast and uh we we did this like live. stream while the election was going on. and we just kept bringing in different. comedians we had a whole like like a. conference table and it was fine we. didn't of a live audience and then we.

updated the crowd whenever and then when. marijuana became legal Berke Cher takes. his shirt off runs around stage it was. really funny um it was fun it was a fun. time but what was most fascinating was. the podcast was over and then we all. went to the bar The Comedy Store has. this like private bar in the back and on. the television Jake Tapper was like just. like seriously bummed out talking about. Trump winning all these different states. and then we watched a little bit of The. Young Turks and Jen yuger was [ __ ]. screw freaking out in the beginning they.

were so cocky and so confident and by. the end they were just [ __ ] freaking. out and they couldn't understand how. everybody got it wrong MH and it I think. for a lot of people that was the end of. trust in mainstream media that was the. first nail in the coffin there was to be. like you guys didn't you were so wrong. you were so wrong yeah how could you get. something so wrong yeah and it was just. fascinating to watch what's supposed to. be the news right so it's suppos the. news is supposed to be at its best an.

objective analysis of what's going on. giving you the facts but they were so. clearly upset and you know there was a. lot of editorializing on how bad this is. and what this means to the world and. what does this say about us that this. guy who said grab him by the [ __ ] is. now the commander-in chief of the. greatest army the world has ever known. it was just for us as comedians we're. like this is going to be fun it it was. just. it was just like they opened up the door.

to the candy store and said go crazy. have fun this is all free yeah um but it. was it was a real wakeup call for a lot. of people that this system is not is not. really as well managed as we'd like to. believe it is. yeah yeah yeah I'm just trying to go. back to those days and think about it. but it. was at Emerson it was I remember um I. was taking a class with the dean of the.

student. body and it was a pedagogy class the. philosophy of teaching and it was right. in the midst of these protests and it. was the day of the protest and so and. there was like 10 people in the class. it's 4our class so they're like we're. going to devote to four hours to talk. about the problematic racism occurring. at. Emerson we're all sitting around and but. the white students were not allowed to. speak we had to concede our space for 4. hours and I like what the [ __ ] is going.

on why was that what was what was the. reason given for that because it was the. moral right thing to do according. because we um they turn that they said. to me I remember he said um I said what. can I I did say what I was like what can. I do about this I genuinely I I. genuinely believed everything I was kind. of I I was just starting to question. things I like what can I I feel terrible. speaking to the student who had just. spoken like you genuinely feel every day. you wake up and come to class you feel.

oppressed that sucks what can I. do they didn't have a response cuz and. they just said you can just listen just. take your time to concede your space and. listen and so that that was the reason. given concede your space and then why. did they feel so threatened did they. articulate that they there was a. Facebook group that was designed to. provide that evidence called Emerson. hash # Emerson so racist or something. and it was gu student um like a teacher.

said no you can't you got to turn in the. work or you're going to fail the class. and my first uh teaching gig occurred. shortly after that in the I remember. this vivly the teacher um I was going to. be teaching the screenwriting course. with undergraduates for the first time. and she before the protest she said. don't let them walk all over you they. will try and take advantage like if they. don't do their work just be fair honest. give them the grade they. deserve after the protest yeah Warren.

remember when I was saying that cuz she. got called out on the Facebook page for. some stupid I don't remember what it was. quote Yeah Warren you remember what I. was saying about that um don't I was. wrong don't forget to be compassionate. because that student is black and it and. she reminded me of how difficult it is. to be black at Emerson and so I couldn't. fail her I couldn't give her the grade. that you know so that jeely she deserved. yeah I remember that vivly um why was it.

why was it articulated that it was so. difficult for her uniquely difficult as. a black student I'm trying to. remember I don't know honestly. Abracadabra yeah it was just like micro. that's the thing about yeah about these. claims though is there is no concrete. evidence it's things like. microaggression someone made a reference. about fried chicken that. was I've heard that one that happened to. my mom who's a Professor runs a study. abroad program she said we're really EXC.

this place is um they have really we. they were in Italy doing a study abroad. program she's like I know you guys have. been missing American food and this. place has Fried Chicken so and it's. really good here and two of the students. she was talking to at that table were. black and they claimed that that was. racist she was like what the fried. chicken one is so crazy Fried Chicken. and watermelon those are the two things. that are associated with racism for as. far as Foods what which I universally. loved like fried chicken is delicious.

watermelon is delicious like how could. that possibly be a negative that certain. people like delicious food like h i to. this day it's one of those things it's. it's so bizarre you could bring up all. kinds of different delicious foods but. if you bring up Fried Chicken which. Everybody Eats everybody who eats meat. and it loves delicious food loves a good. fried chicken have you tried gusses in. town is that the is that the where you. get the slabs of meat no no that's Terry.

Black's but Gus's Fried Chicken is in. Austin fantastic some of the best fried. chicken you're ever going to have in. your life but if you brought that up to. a back friend they might like look at. your side like what the [ __ ] you trying. to say like I'm not I'm trying to food's. good good food like let's go eat good. food and keep that analogy in your mind. about like the boats floating on the. surface and they're just the tool what's. the intent right there was no if there's. no intention there you can't claim. that's racist unless want it to be and.

this goes back to like seeing the world. through stories if you believe a story. is true I'm oppressed the world is. active their systemic racism there's. active racism at my college I'm a victim. you're going to start seeing what you. believe to be true you're going to start. finding hints of it right and it's true. as well for like why it's important to. have a moral code or I personally. believe in a higher power or but if you. believe in objective truth you're going. to see those lessons when you when they. occur in life and it's going to be a. help be a guiding star for you yeah but.

it can be wielded in both. ways it's it's like the response that I. got about JK rolling it was the Contra. points YouTuber everyone was like you. gotta gota uh counter Contra point she's. the one who's taken down JK rolling the. argument essentially is I'm I'm so done. argu I'm not even going to debate this. if anyone who believes in transphobia. can see that JK rolling is obviously. transphobic that's it it's the same. thing if you believe in that definition. of transfobia well you can find it.

almost infinite places well the problem. with that kind of arguing is that it's. it's a total copout like if there is any. sort of debate and there clearly is when. it comes to trans issues if there's any. sort of debate you have to be able to. discuss things and as soon as you say if. you want to debate we're done if you. want to have a discussion we can't you. don't see it well we're done with well. you what you're essenti. conceeding is you don't have a logical.

ability to shut this down because if you. did you would just do it you you would. have a rational conversation with that. person and you would say clearly look. this is why this is racist this is why. this is transphobic this is why this is. sexist like whatever the whatever the. argument is and you would lay it out and. as soon as you say if you don't believe. that then we're done talking mhm I can't. even I can't even do this that's what I. started like my mom disagrees with me. heavily politics which is. okay it in the wake of we were talking.

about 2016 and I found Jordan Peters and. I was like this guy look at this this is. really interesting and if I had any kind. of conversation with her about any even. to this day it's often I think she's. getting better now that I've been making. content she but it was often a formation. of that pattern I I just can't do this. with you Warren right blah blah blah and. it's just neutralizing the debate. because they can't have the debate well. they can't have the debate because. they're not equipped for it that's all. it is they don't have they don't have.

any weapons right if you're going to go. to battle you have to have some sort of. resources there's nothing there and when. there's nothing there and you just say I. can't instead of saying like is there a. logical argument that there are men who. are manipulating this in order to. control women's spaces and like it used. to be that we protected women against. men and protected particularly we. protected women against predatory men. right like uh perverts or sex offenders.

for example but somewhere along the line. with this woke. ideology we completely eliminated the. the even possibility that a man in a in. a dress that wants to go into the. woman's room could be a pervert which to. me was the most insane thing it's like. you've just given a hall pass to the. grossest members of society that we've. always feared we've always feared people.

that would try to take advantage of. women and and and do so in a weird way. where you claim to be one but you have a. penis you're walking around with an. erection in a locker room and anybody. who calls it out is transphobic right. got real weird and people would counter. and say Joe. but but like you're you're you're taking. extreme you're claiming that trans. people walking around with erections it. allows for that capacity it allows for.

that to occur I went after all this. craziness occurred with the video viral. video or whatever I went back to North. Carolina for the first time and my best. friends you know who I've grown up with. and and we just get fine they were. deeply concerned about what I was doing. and right you're talking to too many. people from the right and like I sat. down with Destiny for 6 hours but it's. never enough it and but they I laid out.

what you were saying and I was amazed. that they. couldn't follow that logic that what. about the mother in the dressing room. with a six-year-old does she have a. right to decide if that six-year-old's. exposed to male genitalia just keep it. as as simple as that take out erections. and all that it's like is it fair to her. and they just can't right it seems so. clear it's but they're just scared. they're scared of thinking logically.

because if you do you will be cast out. of this group you'll be ostracized like. there's this very specific rules and. they're very much like a cult like you. have this very cult-like thinking and if. you deviate from that at all you you run. into the possibility of Social aeriz and. that that's what happens to a lot of. people and they're scared of that so to. defend against that possibly happening. to them they attack things. like without any logic at all they just.

like say you don't think you don't know. I'm done talking to you like this is and. that it's like a get out of jail free. pass and you can just get away from the. conversation and you don't have to. confront the the logical fallacies you. don't have to contr confront all the. problems with what you're saying and the. only solution I've been able to find is. to just push through yeah and I I say to. them like Chris like one day I genuinely. believe you look back and understand one.

day and I believe that no I believe that. too if it's done logically and you can. have reasonable discussions but even in. the opposition to that right you have. people on the right who adhere to a. right-wing cult-like thinking right and. you know they'll push back against it in. in a way that's also not logical and so. they dig their heels in on their. ideology and the left digs their heels. and you know you you have things like. people say people on the left don't get.

it people on the left this like no. there's a there's a giant spectrum of. people on the left and a giant spectrum. of people on the right I don't like any. of those labels right I don't exactly. and I really don't like it because of me. like I don't fit in there exactly yeah. exactly I've been playoffs we're talking. about playoffs you bet we are get in on. the action with draftking Sportsbook an. official sports betting partner of the. NFL scoring touchdowns is key to winning. the playoffs and you can score big by.

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responsible gaming resources see dk. c/. audio and people want to box you in on. that and this goes back to seeing. stories which story do you fit into like. my mom has a story of what a Democrat is. she can never think that in a story of. what a republican is she'll never. deviate from that my parents are the. same right exactly the same i' would. rather be homeless they're blue no. matter who they're just locked in yeah. yeah yes you know the it's I just I. don't I dread the I don't dread the.

question of are you a Republican or. different it's like who cares it doesn't. I'm not a part of youi I'm just going to. be I'm G call it as I see it follow the. logic yeah it doesn't make sense to be. on a team right doesn't make sense at. all even for someone like me like you. know. who yeah went to the inauguration you. know I was how was that bizarre but I. don't consider myself a republican I. don't consider myself a Democrat either.

I consider myself an American I just I'm. a human being and there's a lot of. things that the Democrats believe that I. believe too there's a lot of things they. say that I say that makes a lot of sense. to me and there's a lot of things that. the Republicans say they're like that. makes a lot of sense to me too and the. idea that I have to ignore things that. make sense to me because it's coming. from the wrong team is just stupid and. the idea like these are bad faith. arguments where you have to have a. conversation with someone and pretend. that what they're saying is not logical. because they're supposed to be your. opponent that to me is just dumb it.

doesn't make any that doesn't benefit me. at all it doesn't benefit anybody. listening at all it's just stupid it's a. stupid way to think it's it's so. limiting and it's so bad for you. cognitively because I think when you put. up those. blinders like you ever talk to a person. that's a liar especially like when. you're younger you you meet people that. are liars and they lie all the time. about all kinds of things one of the. things about liars is they can't really. recognize how other people see their. lies because they're living a lie like.

they're lying so often they don't. realize the language of Truth and. honesty and so when they're talking to. people they don't even realize that. people know they're full of [ __ ] because. they're they've lost their ability to. sort of discern what natural. conversations are about where where it's. really it's not about you bullshitting. me to try to get me to believe something. that's not true it's about you just. expressing yourself so they stop doing. that they stop just genuinely expressing.

themselves and then they just live with. these blinders on and so everything. exists and the only way they can find. someone who will buy into their [ __ ]. is if someone is like so bad at thinking. and reasoning that they don't have the. tools to discern when someone's full of. [ __ ] and this happens with ideologies. this happens with with religion and it. clearly happens with politics it's like.

you get locked into these blinders and. you're incapable of looking at any sort. of positive aspects of someone who is on. a team that you believe is the. opposition yeah I think there is a power. in truth it can be felt like you're. saying and that's the under beneath the. boats beneath the surface that which we. can't articulate we can't explain how we. know these how we can sense that on. someone when they're both [ __ ] you. can feel it so as a teacher you really.

learn that reality if you're going to be. effective first thing I would say on the. first day to my students is by law by. ethical bounds there are going to be. some things I can't tell you. confidentiality whatever but I will. never I promise I will never tell you. something I know to be untrue then you. try and embody that through all behavior. and that I saw that resonate because but. there's a lot of. teachers that you know but it's a. strange environment that school a lot of.

weird stuff of course well it's. a that wasn't an art no I'm talking. about the ones where like the kids get. kicked out of high school oh go there so. there's like gangs drugs you know. yeah yeah which is interesting yeah it's. I think we're entering a unique moment. in history where a lot of those. narratives are just dissolving and a lot. of. that very tribal thinking is uh being.

critically analyzed and it's found to be. lacking and people are abandoning it. left and right and you're you're seeing. it you're seeing sort of the. consequences. of a lot of this uh ideology affecting. people's day-to-day lives and that's. causing people to abandon it you know I. was watching these this leftwing podcast. um where they were discussing being. gaslit about the problems with violence.

uh and uh crime rising in New York City. and that you know you're being told that. it's not but if you live day-to-day life. you're like no this is real like you. guys have l in a bunch of Venezuelan. gang members and you have a sanctuary. City and now it's kind of chaotic and. you're seeing like the woman who got lit. on fire in the subway and like that kind. of [ __ ] you're seeing this with with. ever increasing frequency you're also. seeing the way they lie about crimes. statistic. because they'll tell you that crime is. down but what they don't tell you is.

crime is severely underreported and that. people are being released for even. violent crimes very quickly which has. direct consequences because then there's. no incentive whatsoever to not commit. crime if you're going to be right back. out on the street are you familiar with. Roland frier har okay yes have have you. had him I have not but I would he's it's. really interesting he's changed the way. I view. statistics and but in like a three. minute synopsis of it that goes to crime.

statistics he I can't think. mathematically and I think this applies. to logic I think visually so if I have a. metaphor I can suddenly understand a. mathematical concept just don't have. that mind so he broke it down like all. right after all that research that. caused him to go into hiding he's like. if you look at it through an economics. perspective let's say my job is to. explain let's get to explain why he. wanted like he wanted to hide it. conducted a study a deep dive into.

police statistics to see racial bias in. policing right the findings did not. match the story that people wanted to be. true at Harvard which caused him to. literally go under police protection I. think like a one-year-old he had at the. time for days now I don't know the the. Deep di beyond that but that's the right. right and we should say he's a black. gentleman right uh so he says the. colleagues told him don't publish this.

warning you'll ruin your. career right for releasing findings that. contradict popular left-wing narratives. on policing and he said I'm going to do. it anyways yeah and then he came to the. University of Austin and taught a class. it's on YouTube and watching that class. to summarize it in a minute look at it. through economics if my job is to. approve or disapprove loans. I've been able to get that down the best.

I can I want to keep the default rate as. low as possible and I've achieved like a. 0. five default rate out of anyone who. comes in my office 05 after I've done my. job. defaults all right that's pretty good. someone could come along later and. analyze all that and say wait a minute. you're you're turning down. 60% black people though versus white. people his point is you can't look at it. through through that lens you have to. look at it through what is the goal.

that's trying what what is the result. we're trying to achieve so in policing. it's to he can he his study showed that. 40% of stops approximately I think if we. use that as an example 40% of stops. recover Contraband which is pretty crazy. pretty good across demographics which. means it's being done correctly and. people this changes how you view so much. it's it's kind of difficult to to. understand it first GL I'm trying to. tell me if this makes sense okay so it's.

for it's 40% across whatever color the. driver is MH that means we've done. correct we've done it right if it. was 60% white drivers were recovering. cont we should be pulling over his. arguments we should be pulling over more. white drivers but that's assuming. they're pulling people over upon race. let's go back to the E the default rate. you're just coming in after the fact and. analyzing the results and looking at it. through a racial lens I'm going to I'm.

going to judge each case based on a. merit regardless of because I are you. going to default or not and whatever I'm. going to run my analysis whatever that. is so anyone can come in after the fact. and say but there's always going to be a. discrepancy okay but you turn down more. black people than white so there okay so. according to your logic for every White. driver every black driver I pull over. every Latino I have to pull over a white. driver now which affects policing itself.

as opposed to what's our goal you all. the police are meeting that morning our. job is to go out and recover Contraband. in this. neighborhood but for every black driver. got to pull over a white it's like. that's not how it works right. so that kind. of that boggled my mind when I first. heard it I was like looking at it. through the lens of what are we trying. to achieve and seeing if if that. achievement is even then there's nothing. like there's nothing off about it if.

it's if the the Contra band being. recovered is. 40% regardless of the rate of which. you're pulling those cars over the the. the success rate is the same MH which is. means you're doing it you're doing it. right is that's I'm trying to boil that. down as simple as I can but and so that. that was problematic for a lot of people. they didn't want to hear that because. they're pulling over let's just say 60%. of the drivers are black which is bias. the pro the question is is it.

unwarranted. bias because there's always going to be. bias right is it or unwarranted bias. meaning are more black people causing. them to get pulled over like like the. default. rate 70% of the people I turned down. let's say. 70% of of people that come in that. office that were black got turned down. my rebuttal to that is that has nothing.

to do with it my job is for the bank to. get a 0. five default rate and that's. the end result right can you prove that. I'm doing anything wrong like there's no. what adjustment logically should I. make right should you give loans to. people that are more likely to default. just because of their ethnicity that. would be the only logical course of. action in response to that right which. is the argument for Equity right over. equality. equal yeah essentially that would be a. form of equity equality of outcome.

versus equality of opportunity right. yeah yeah I've seen that argument that. like not everybody starts at the same. spot so you have to raise up people. whove started at a different spot which. is to me a Band-Aid on the real problem. the real problem is that we have crime. infested areas that we've done nothing. to fix that's the real problem the real. problem is we have parts of our society. that have been you know because of Jim. Crow laws and Redline laws there's a a. long history of them being riddled with.

crime and gangs and it could be fixed. there's been no effort there's been no. real National effort to uh take. impoverished gang ridden crime ridden. neighborhoods and rehabilitate them the. more you do that if you did that you. would have less losers if you have less. losers you have a better country and. that's including like the Appalachia. like areas of West Virginia that are. filled with people that are addicted to.

Pills and committing crime because. they're drug addicts that are all poor. white people coal mining people and. those those folks it's everybody it's. it's just crime and poverty and crime. and poverty causes people you you. imitate your environment you imitate. Your Atmosphere if you grow up in a. crimer ridden gang ridden neighborhood. the chances of you getting involved in. gang activities and crime are much. higher than if you don't grow up in an. environment like that yeah I'm from. North Carolina Ash like near Asheville. Asheville grff out there which people do.

don't believe Asheville like mountains. beautiful right no it's like very high. per capita crime rate there's a meth. capital M right near where I live and so. I agree with you the thing is if we look. at it I agree if we look at it through a. socioeconomic lens so I had a Prof one. of my professors from Emerson he's like. I solved racism this was in one of the. videos boy I was like sure come over. let's record hit me with it so the. solution is we're going to um have a tax.

for so if your an if you can trace your. ancestry then you're going to you don't. have to pay taxes or some form of tax. like okay but what about the white. person in Appalachia who was in an. equally bad socioeconomic position but. they don't get the the tax or what the. reward Your solution MH well their. ancestors weren't oppressed. so I would be all for it if it was. looking through a consistent applied. across all demographics equally.

socioeconomically you're never going to. stop racism you're never going to stop. ignorant thinking I mean unless there's. some sort of a. groundbreaking human neural interface. that completely changes our cognitive. function and and dissolves all. boundaries that you're not going to stop. people from there there's people that. don't like people from other cities. because they play sports against them. you know know they I hate people from. Philly there's there's always going to.

be people that discriminate against. other people because there's always. going to be ignorant people so he's. going to be and it's easier to do that. it's easier to decide this person is my. enemy these These are these people are. on my side it's easy to be tribal it's. like it's much simpler yeah you don't. have to think as much I like Anna. kasparan got sexually assaulted by a. homeless person so when she's walking. down the street she's probably going to. recoil a bit maybe and if she sees. someone hope you know it's there's a. human psychological element she's going. to try probably not to do that but it's.

just human nature if you have a bad. experience then it's going to goes back. to how we see the world but you're right. yeah we'll never be able to solve racism. well that's a type of bias that like is. kind of logical like if you see a guy. and he's covered in his own [ __ ] and. he's uh you know lighting notebooks on. fire that guy might be out of his. [ __ ] mind you should probably go. around him and if you run into a bunch. of them and they're camping out right in. front of your house you you should yeah. you should act accordingly you should. treat them the same the way you treat. your neighbor who's just walking his dog.

waving to you it's a different kind of. human being you're encountering you know. there are certain people that you should. be wary about and if you are severely. mentally ill and addicted to drugs and. you live in a tent in front of someone's. house you're cooking meth you know like. you're in the backyard barbecuing you. smell someone cooking meth in your front. yard like that's a problem yeah that's a. problem that's a problem and if you. pretend it's not a problem because you. know oh you have to be sensitive to. people's socioeconomic needs and it's a. housing crisis and it's a this and it's. a that no no there's people that are.

really [ __ ] up because being a person. is hard it's difficult it's complicated. and if you grow up uh you know with. abusive parents who are drug addicts. themselves and in and out of jail and. you've been like psychologically scarred. since you were a baby because they beat. you and you've encountered a lot of. domestic violence you're going to be. more [ __ ] up than the average person. this is just the development cycle of. you as an entity as a human being that. is a product of your accumulated. experiences your genetics your biology.

your your environment there's just a lot. of factors and if to pretend that those. factors don't exist and that if you if. you do recognize them that somehow or. another you're racist or you're sexist. or you're ableist or you're this or. you're that like you're you're you're. the problem no the the problem is we've. got a bunch of people that are really. [ __ ] up you know and we have to figure. out a way to have less people that are. [ __ ] up you're always going to have a. certain percentage but is there. something that can be done. that would mitigate the number of people.

that are growing up really [ __ ] up and. becoming problems start at the root get. to the root what's the roote crime. infested gang infested neighborhoods. abusive Family Life abusive. neighborhoods like that's the roote it's. the root of all of our problems yeah I. think that's why Jordan Peterson tapped. into so much because it's the only. solution is per you know taking a. personal responsibility but even. personal responsibility for a person. that has no there's no examples of. someone taking personal responsibility. everyone around you is doing something.

[ __ ] up or most people around you are. doing something [ __ ] up and there's. nowhere you can turn or you can relate. to someone who can give you tools and. objective reasoning and an understanding. of how you got to the situation and what. are the steps you can take to get out of. that I encountered that every day at. that school cuz that's what I was those. are the kids that I was working with. they didn't have majority of them did. not have have a parent we would have. open house and no one would come mhm.

they had no example no money. right and it's heartbreaking because but. what so what do I do as a teach all I. can do is try and lead by example and. maybe communicate because that's their. best hope is trying and taking. responsibility and because no one else. is going to do it at the end of the. day there there is no alternative right. except for having someone hopefully come. along and provide that role model right.

or finding something that you can do. that elevates you finding something you. can do that gives you a very clear. example that hard work and dedication. can lead to success and then you can. kind of get addicted to this positive. feeling that you're getting from seeing. yourself progress and get locked into. that and it can Elevate you out of. certain situations you see that happen. with sports you see that happen with art. you know Sports and art are probably the. two best ways that people can escape. impoverished childhoods and bad. neighborhoods the student who was we're.

not supposed to have faves but was my. favorite. he he came from that kind of background. but he could draw like I've never seen. there you go art and so we we got him a. crit drawing tablet digital drawing. tablet and he would just sit and draw. all day but here's the the issue is well. how do you but he wouldn't go to any. other classes and we kind of he like for. some reason he liked being in my. classroom so they would literally sit. him in my room and he would stay there. all day and then he would try and bring.

work from his other classes and get him. to do the work from the other. classes and but so through that pattern. he and I you know we would talk about he. got me into Elden ring telling me like. these video like he was he got me into. the whole art style behind Elder ring. and Dark. Souls but what how do you Foster then. the school kind of comes along and. they're like yeah but he's not doing um. academic drawings that are not relevant. to the school and I get that but so how. do you then take that talent for drawing.

and show him that this can be monetized. man like you could be out like let's get. you maybe freelancing I worked as a. freelance videographer it's a it's a. Hustle but it's a way you're not going. make but it's better than nothing like. trying to think outside the box and he. ended up getting kicked out for. stupid he didn't want to go on a field. trip one day and he was like um he made. a offhand passing comment he's like I. don't want to go on the field trip don't. make me go on the field trick trip I'm I. I'll just bring a gun so I don't have to. go to the field trip and like oh my God.

like and then and this goes back to the. idea of telling the truth what got me is. they they lied to him and told him. because the teacher that he said it. to you're compelled to like report it. and everything and we run it up the. chain I don't think he should have been. kicked out I know this kid though he's. done that's why they're there because. they stay they say stupid stuff right. and we're the last line defense he was. graduating in two months oh.

God I don't know where he is. now well it brings you back to like what. is school supposed to be for it's. supposed to be preparing you for. Independence out in the world and it's. supposed to be preparing you to. eventually have a career well there's. real careers in art it's a viable. pathway yeah and the idea that this guy. is extremely talented and that's not. accentuated he would he would draw these. Japanese like samurai sword fighting.

just be and then I had the photo printer. we. would and but they were like well how's. he going to make a living drawing. Japanese photos no it's like get him to. draw School Pro like logos for. multimedia projects for the culinary. program but I was like this kid won't. respond to that and he didn't and then. he gets kicked out that was my problem. as an artist when when I was young I. wanted to be a comic book illustrator. that's what I wanted to do and all I. that's the only art that I was. interested in I read a lot of comic. books and I was like really into like.

Frank fretta and I was really into like. Jack Kirby and all these different. artists that would draw for comic books. and fantasy novels and that kind of. stuff that's what I was interested in. that was the only thing I was interested. in and my art teacher was an [ __ ] he. was just he was such an [ __ ] shout. out to my friend John D'Or cuz I'm still. uh I communicate online with a buddy of. mine in high school who was also in that. art class who was the most talented guy. in the class it was me John and uh our.

friend Kevin and we were like the three. most talented people I was like third. it's like John was number one Kevin was. number two and then it was me but we. were all like much more talented than. everyone else and all we wanted to do. was like comic book art and John was so. good and he told me that that teacher. gave him an F in his final year and uh. cuz he's just an [ __ ] he just his he. when he would never look at your art and.

say it was good he would look at your. art and say you're not going to be able. to do that for a living you're going to. have to draw diaper commercials you're. going to have to do this you're going to. have to do things you don't want to do I. hate that [ __ ] it but it was just he was. a bitter guy with like a pot belly who. looked depressed and he was a lot of. teachers are yeah and they he didn't. want you to have hope cuz he didn't have. any hope and he didn't like teaching he. wanted to be an artist and you know and. he when he would draw you like he would. draw in the class where we would do. projects and his stuff was unexceptional.

just wasn't that good you know and it. just they wanted you to fail I had a. student I I had multiple students the. number one like profession kids want to. do now is be an influencer YouTuber blah. blah blah so I get the apprehension when. a kid's like I really want to do YouTube. make a YouTube channeling I want to deal. like what Joe Rogan's doing whatever. it's but the school was kind of he can't. make money on YouTube it's.

like that's so dumb that's like you. should be fired for being incompetent. not just incompetent but you're counter. to what's true like you're saying things. that are objectively untrue you can't. make money on YouTube that is you could. pull up statistics instantaneously it's. hard but you're never gonna I got lucky. man just because I was willing to put. myself out there and make a fool of. myself but that's not why you got lucky. you got lucky cuz you put out good. content it's a merit based thing it.

really is like what the and it doesn't. necessarily have to be good right. there's content that's just it's you. know inflammatory and that people people. gravitate to that because they like. controversy people like just people. squabbling and yelling at each other. like shitty content or someone who's. saying like awful things so people you. believe this person saying these awful. things and they get a lot of attention. for saying awful things and so you know. and then YouTube has ways to sort of. manage that which are you know a little.

orwellian right like they demonetize. people for talking about specific things. and that scares me it should scare you. because a lot of times they're. demonetizing things that are absolutely. accurate and that's where it gets really. weird like this is what we faced during. the covid crisis like if you said that. you think this disease came from a lab. leak you would get demonetized on. YouTube well that's proven to be true. now so like what happens does YouTube. owe you money from all those videos that. you put out that they should have.

monetized like what if you're saying it. it was crazy you're saying accurate. things but these accurate things were. being suppressed by Our Own federal. government which is really weird We're. In Cahoots with these corporations that. were making these medications and so it. got real [ __ ] weird like real weird. and um unfortunately a lot of those laws. still stand we had an instance where. there was a video that we put out during. the.

pandemic um when we were only on Spotify. so we were only on Spotify all of our. videos all of our episodes got released. only on Spotify but we banked them all. to eventually you know just like we'd. have them if we ever wanted to put them. on up on YouTube well then. 2024 uh I signed this new deal and in. the New Deal what I want to do is put it. everywhere I was like We'll Be Spotify. but let's put it on and Spotify wanted. to do this as well it was actually they. they were very supportive of this put it.

everywhere well put it on YouTube put it. on Apple put it on but it's a Spotify. exclusive and we work out this deal that. way and just like like well so when we. took this videos that were available on. Spotify to in order to put them on. YouTube even though they're factually. correct they have a strike against them. because it's still adhering to their old. laws that were applicable at the time. that we made the video. so what did they did they make. adjustments what did we wind up doing. with that Jamie I don't know case I.

don't know which case you're talking. about you know where you were saying. that like there was a video that we were. going to put up but it had a strike and. you you were going to have to do like. training remember that that was already. up there though that was that right that. wasn't re-uploaded that was from the. past that was like a clip put up yeah we. were still putting Clips up on that. channel it was a clip that was the. problem yeah pretty sure right but it. was the full episode wasn't right and. then when we uploaded the full episode. then it it applied to that right it just. still had I we there was no way around.

not doing the education [ __ ] thing. whatever called but here's the problem. no way around it did you have to do that. no I'm not doing. [ __ ] yeah but here's the problem that. clip was accurate the problem is the. things that they were saying were. accurate yeah something changed in the. news and they were like that's actually. accurate now but the system had there. was there was no way to change it in the. system it was always accurate it's just. the news started reporting it accurately. and because in initially the the.

government narrative was that it was. incorrect so we're in the situation. where you're getting educated about. something that's absolutely true and you. have to sort of pretend that you did a. bad thing it's scary for me because this. is literally how I make it living now. put food on the table yeah do you do. other platforms as well as YouTube I'm. I'm on X but I'm not monetized never. made a dollar on x not sure how to go. about doing that I could look it up I. should probably but yeah I don't know.

how that works either I hear rumors. about don't post one to one to X because. like YouTube wants exclusivity and if. you're posting on X your videos will. perform less I don't know how much truth. there is but I'm so kind of there's. probably something to that and I'm so. dependent on YouTube that I'm like I'm. not even gonna here's an interesting. statistic about YouTube um this shows. you like this is probably one of the. best examples of bias that you're ever. going to see. during the time where I released the. podcast with trump it was getting what.

was the most it was getting an hour was. it 1.2 million sure I think so maybe 1. two 13 something like that as much as. 1.5 million I think at one point in time. an hour that's never trending I heard. about that never trending I saw that. never trending what's trending then tell. me what trending is if something gets 50. million views in a couple of days and. that's not trending. what's trending what do you call. trending what does that mean then is are.

you curating your trending thing why. would you do this on call her daddy. Trend I don't know that's a good. question well it didn't get any views no. it didn't get much I mean what what did. uh Kamal Harris on call her Daddy get. like less than a million I think that's. crazy yeah I get a million for some. random should have gotten a million. that's crazy but that doesn't make any. sense um May I'm thinking I might be. wrong about that well it wasn't. extraordinary it wasn't interesting. enough that's you know it's Merit based. essentially I was curious what it would.

say how the trending page is controlled. I looked up on the screen it says. there's no humans that uh manually. curate the page right but obviously the. algorithm I don't I don't believe this. is yeah I don't believe cynical about. this response yeah okay YouTube's. trending page is controlled by an. algorithm that's trained by human. Engineers there's no employees who. manually curate the trending page how. the algorithm works the algorithm. considers many factors to determine. which videos are trending including view. count view velocity and video age the.

algorithm considers where views are. coming from and how the video performs. compared to other recent uploads from. the same channel the algorithm aims to. create a list of trending content that's. relevant and representative across the. platform the algorithm refreshes every. 15 minutes to stay current filters the. algorithm applies strict content filters. to keep the trending list familyfriendly. these filters Ensure that videos don't. contain excessive profanity well that KS. me out uh mature content violence or.

disparaging others in the community okay. so just that line alone disparaging. others in the community yeah it's it. would be in YouTube's best interest. though they need they need you so well. don't they like views yeah that's my. point don't don't you sell if I was. YouTube like no we want show Rogen's. thing up here we need views well not. only that if you put it in trending. you'll get more views so you get more. advertising revenue on that specific one. I think they were worried about. something. else but yeah they were worried about it.

promoting Donald Trump and winding up. being president because of that but then. it got to a point where you couldn't. find it so that was real weird like if. you Googled Trump Rogan podcast you. would not find that podcast at all you. would find clips of people discussing it. you would not find the actual podcast. when I first saw it it was someone. reacting to it. yeah live bizarre didn't you tweet like.

we had to release it at the same time on. multiple platforms sorry for the glitch. wasn't there a there was a glitch. because the way um we upload generally. uh Jamie you could speak to this we. upload with a timer right like it's. going to upload usually is like at noon. and this time we were doing it at night. and you know they just didn't for. whatever reason it didn't go live the. the platforms don't work. we just released it we just said like. let's just release it now but it took a. while to to get up and to it was just.

that was just like an issue with just. how the upload system works it's like. it's more effective to upload on a timer. apparently but that that had nothing to. do with YouTube that was just a thing. about and then when it was being. suppressed uh and I knew it was being. suppressed uh I talked to Spotify and. talked to Elon and said let's just put. it on x and so we put it on X as well. and then Elon put it on X and it wound.

up getting across all platforms. somewhere in the neighborhood of like. 250 million views [ __ ] insanity but a. lot of it was X like a lot of people on. Independent Pages they just took it when. it was a problem finding it and they. just uploaded it to their own channel on. X a lot of people did that and then you. know I uploaded it Elon elon's alone got. like 65 million views and I got like 25. million views it was just nuts is like. people wanted it and is this trian. effect as soon as you try to suppress.

something I just I don't buy into the. idea that there wasn't some sort of. manipulation behind the scenes it just. doesn't make any sense whether it was. Rogue employees or whether it was. someone who was gaming the reporting. system like reporting something for like. maybe that could be it like if you get. enough people that report that a video. is a problem maybe that could throw it. off I don't know you know I don't even I. don't want to ask because I don't think.

I'm going to get an honest answer you. haven't asked I kind of have but I don't. talk to them you know I don't talk I. don't have like a direct Channel where I. talk to them I don't want one I was just. like let me just put it you know like. this just like if there's a situation. like that I'll talk about that and. that's my way of responding to that like. make sense to make it make sense to me. like why why can't can't you find it why. can't you find a video that has 65. million views why can't you find that.

that doesn't make any sense that is. crazy that's nuts like what's wrong with. your search system and then eventually. that because of me talking about it it. went back and then then then you could. find it it was it's one of the best. things a lot of people are really. grateful that you did that. so yeah I you know I wanted to to like. we were clearly being manipulated we. were clearly being G lit and being told. that this guy's Hitler even though he. was already the president for 4 years.

and he wasn't he didn't act like a. dictator like we know what it's like. when he's running things we had. experienced it for four years and they. were telling us that this was the end of. civilization the trans people going to. be rounded up and [ __ ] Nets thrown on. them and it it was really wild that. people weren't going to be safe it was. really wild it was really wild and they. yeah they just demonized and and they. gaslit people to the point where when.

you actually do have the guy in and talk. to him and say like no he's not mentally. compromised he's not incoherent he's. very coherent he's got an amazing amount. of energy guy sat here for three hours. and we could have done another three. hours easy he can go on and on and on. and he's fine and he had some really. good points first of all the the point. about the California wildfires where. he's discussing their their water issues. that it could all be fixed and then he. gave them a plan to fix it and then they. they rejected it and he was like you. could have all the [ __ ] water you.

need and you should be doing things to. make sure that these fires don't happen. again there's ways to clean up the brush. there's ways to do this there's ways to. do that you stop the fuel you you know. you develop uh better systems for water. distribution sprinkler systems like. there's ways to do this and he talked. about those ways on the podcast and it's. like you know eerily accurate when you. see what happened to the pafic Palisades. yeah well that clip of you predicting. the whole thing you yeah that was a see.

here's the thing this climate change. narrative this is a really goofy thing. that people on the left are talking. about this is because of climate change. this is climate change causes fire La. has had essentially the same weather. pattern since the 1800s since they. started noticing them there's a great. video here I'll send it to you Jamie. there's a great video of the uh Tanga. fires see you might be able to find it. before I can pull it up the Tanga fires. from. 1961 I believe there was a huge fire.

that raged through the Hollywood Hills. pre- climate change 1961 La has always. been dry as [ __ ] it's a movie industry. that's why the movie industry is there. because you could film outside and you. don't ever have to worry about it. raining on you that's literally why they. came there because it was it's the. perfect climate it's amazing I was just. there last weekend the weather's. incredible but the city because of their. ridiculous policies is just a [ __ ]. disaster a dangerous creepy weird. disaster of a city 1961 Bell airfire. which is probably the same time could.

it's a windy ass windy sounds the same. brush fire wind but I mean that's just. what happens man so the the situation. that I encountered was uh from. 2000 I was filming Fear Factor so it had. to be before 2007 so it was really. before a lot of this I mean you know you. had the Inconvenient Truth documentary. but you didn't have the type of uh. climate change discussions that you're. you have today so you think it was more.

it's just la la okay it's just La it's. not a climate change issue God I got to. find this video I know 15,000 Acres. burned 450 homes burned here's the. aftermath houses they're digging through. it yeah that is a black and white one. the one that I had was was color. footage um I know I have it if you just. give me a second I will find it. documentary is called design for. disaster that's popping up this also. says Bel Air here I'm just going through.

my Whitney cuming sent it to me so I'm. going through my videos with her I'll. find it in a second but the point is. it's. like when I experienced that this was. not when everybody was uh chiming in. about climate change being the here it. is I found it 1960s it was in the canyon. here it is I'll send it to. jie of dry. chel theity and it's one of those guys. talking like this because that's how. they talked in the news back then so.

it's a 1961 documentary about the fires. and so um when I was talking to this. fireman I think it was. 2003 if I believe if I'm correct I think. it was 2003 and we were experiencing uh. a fire and he told me I CU where I lived. I had been evacuated three times i' had. been evacuated in the early 2000s so. give me some volume on this so you can. hear the way this guy.

talks ground cover in the Western. Hemisphere the fire starting from its. point of origin north of Mulholland on. Stone Canyon spreads out along Canyon. walls and three directions Flames began. spreading at the rate of 13 acres per. minute we've got a report of four people. trapped on foot between Shalon and Ros. we need help from the police department. s an ambulance the 2025 to Road. how can a modern water system properly. designed to meet emergency fire. conditions fail to function 484 Times.

fire proved its deadly efficiency by. incinerating in a few roaring minutes. what families had taken years to acquire. 134 so that has always been a problem so. they had the same issue back then the. 100% same issue so this idea that these. left-wing people particularly media. people they want to use this binary. thing you know you know this is what I. saw oh Trump said drill baby drill right. after we're dealing with this climate.

change fueled emergency in the Pacific. Palisades and climate CH that is not. it's not climate change it is the. climate of Los Angeles it's a [ __ ]. desert they put a city in the [ __ ]. desert because they wanted to film. movies there and it's also windy in the. winter because you get the Santa Ana. winds which is what just occurred where. you get these 100 mile they're historic. they've always happened every year we. get the Santa an there's Fire season for. a [ __ ] reason there's Los Angeles has.

fire season where I used to live it was. Fire season and every time the winter. would come and everything was dry and. all the vegetation was brown and the. wind was whipping around everybody would. get nervous because you get you know. there's a bunch of different reasons the. the one big one from 2018 they found out. that it was like some part that failed. that initially caused the fire that was. a $1 part the part cost $1 this one $1.

piece that they failed to replace cause. the Sparks that led to the initial fire. that was the 2018 fire where you saw if. you go down the 405 in Hollywood like. half of the side of the highway was. completely engulfed in flames it looked. apocalyptic it was bananas driving down. the highway and the whole left side of. the highway is completely on fire just. Giant Hills of raging fires that they. couldn't put out it's always been like.

this it's Los Angeles it's Los Angeles. so why didn't they adapt like I lived in. La for two years I'm on the volunteer. fire department in my town where I live. now in Massachusetts and we don't have. fire. hydrant that's go crazy we're at by. conquer like near there yeah I know. where that is so there's no fire. hydrants and so we bring our own water. that's so crazy but it's is my point. yeah it's possible and the problem with. this passfire and there's here's another.

thing that's a lot of weird push back. against that it was arson caused hey. some of it was arson caused fact they. arrested people they arrested people for. starting fires they've arrested multiple. people for starting fires my friend. Andrew huberman filmed people starting. fires they were starting fires in the. middle of this fire disaster because it. doesn't mean it's the cause of it right. it means along the way there was a lot.

of arson like some people were saying. that uh you know oh there's this false. narrative that was the homeless people. like okay whether they had a house or. whether they didn't have a house some. people started [ __ ] fires there's. video footage of the Three Fires that. are started SE semi simultaneously that. are near the Palisades and on one of the. video footage it's very clear that. there's a human being this like from the. sky where they're filming this there's a. human being that's near the fire most. likely the cause of the fire was a.

person who either accidentally did this. or did it on purpose lit a fire so the. problem is not [ __ ] climate change. the problem is la is extremely. vulnerable when it comes to fires and. always has been and they've done very. little to mitigate this yearly disaster. problem that they have. that's the facts yeah that's the reality. of it that's that's indisputable do you.

think Gavin Newsome's gonna is this. going to be the end of him or people. going to put up with it I would like to. think that people would wise up I mean. there's been a trend in California to to. vote in the opposite direction if you. look at the map of 2020 versus the map. of 2024 the counties that went red like. a significant number but the high. population centers are in the trance the. San Francisco Los Angeles very difficult. to get those people to vote anything. other than blue and so if the people. that are Democrat are giving them the.

exact same Solutions exact same. gaslighting and they keep buying it over. and over again and they still win. elections then there's no incentive for. them to correct course so this is why. California has been essentially blue. since except for the time where Arnold. won which is weird right because he was. kind of like a moderate Republican and. also famous and that probably led to him. winning but other than that since Reagan. um he what did he he did something where.

he allowed people that came here and. where what is what was the issue that. Reagan did there was some sort of a. voting. issue where he allowed people from I. think it was people that had immigrated. here illegally from Mexico there's uh. coffee and water whatever youd like. there's water in that glass right. there but California is basically locked. blue and the only thing that's going to. change it is things like these specific. Palisades fires where people realize we.

have incompetent government and if we. have competent government that is. right-wing and um as long as they don't. infringe on civil rights and human. rights and all the things that we're. terrified of from right-wing extremists. as long as they don't do that you. probably be better off leaning in that. direction of someone's going to take a. pragmatic solution a pragmatic view of. what these problems are and make. meaningful change like you've got to. you've got to figure out what what is.

first of all with the fires it's like. this all could be prevented what's. causing the fire well all this brush. they had record rainfall record rainfall. means record growth so you have record. growth of all these grasses and brush. and all this stuff so it's all green and. Lush until La Runs Out of Water because. it stops raining for a long time and. then everything turns brown and then. it's a tender it's just fire tender. it's. just when the fire chief says we if we'd. had a thousand more trucks it wouldn't.

have quote tamped this down but then we. see an old man with a garden hose able. to save his house it's like well an. individual was able to make a difference. so then logically a difference could be. made there's one guy who um put lawn. sprinklers on his roof milk orange juice. I saw one guy and like it's so it's. difficult to have those two narratives. they contradict each other they do but I. mean the firefighters are saying once.

the fire is Raging even if they had 100. trucks you're dealing with 100 mph winds. and you've got this enormous like who if. someone did start these fires if they. were started by arson the way they did. it was very strategic because they. essentially did it upwind they did it. like right where the wind was going to. blow the fire into the city like if you. started that fire at the outskirts of. the city it would just burn to an area. that's not populated they started it. right where all the brush was right.

where all the woods were where the wind. was at its back and then they started it. in multiple areas so that it would come. and spread out in a in this way that was. like impossible to stop so once it gets. big like to this day like what is the. fire yesterday I read that it was 60 I. think it was 65% contained this is like. we're in weeks right weeks into this at. one point in time it was 0% contained it. was just burning through and if you. haven't.

seen um there's a great video I'll send. you this Jamie of uh an overhead view of. what it looks like now and it's 68% 68%. contained today um I'm going to send you. this Jamie because it's a helicopter. that is flying over the Palisades and. you get to see like the extent of the. devastation and until you see it like. with your own eyes from the air it's. hard to understand how big the.

destruction is how enormous the amount. of land that was destroyed the amount of. homes that were destroyed and not just. destroyed here is like you could see. this. here I mean this is. crazy this is absolutely. crazy and the video is larger Jamie if. you could like shrink it a little so. that that way you can see the top so. there's there's words at the top that. block off some of it but it goes on like. way above that see that like this is an.

enormous piece of land covered with. homes that's gone oh that's gone not. just gone but now. poisoned so now not only are these homes. burnt but everything that was in the. homes all the Plastics all the chemicals. all the batteries Teslas all these. different electric cars all that the. electronics all the the toxic chemicals. that come from the building materials.

all that is now seeped into the ground. and will eventually seep into the water. it's going to get into the water supply. it's probably going to get into the. ocean it's going to wash into the. ocean yeah I don't think people realize. how toxic that stuff is not just that. it's in the air so you know they can say. the weather quality or the air quality. is good in California based on how much. smog there is but. what's in the [ __ ] smog now because. this is not just automobile smog this is.

not just just dry dirt kicked up by the. wind which they've always had like they. the the smog in Los Angeles existed. before there were cars cuz there was. always this problem with the way the. valley is shaped the valley just. contains all this air in there and you. would get dust pollution even back. before there were [ __ ] cars. or if there was anybody that was burning. coal or you had fireplaces or that kind.

of [ __ ] you're getting all that smoke. that was always contained in that area. it's just a bad place for air and so. then on top of that you've got all these. homes that were burnt and all this toxic. waste all this Burning plastic and. burning chemicals now that's all in the. air and no one's discussing that like it. has to be bad for you if you live near. that all those firemen that are. breathing that [ __ ] in that's going to. have long-term Health consequences for.

those guys yeah yeah for all those. people that are dealing with all that. [ __ ] all those people that are anywhere. near it your air is air of like do you. know the story of the toxic burm pits. from Iraq no in Afghanistan so during. the war when troops were uh on a base. overseas they would take all their. garbage and burn it so they burned it in. these waste pits and so the wind would. shift and blow through the camp and all.

these people are breathing toxic air. extremely toxic in fact Biden's son died. from a brain cancer that they connect to. his exposure in the military to the. toxic burn pits it's there's a a a a. whole swarm of Health consequences that. veterans have faced because these toxic. burn pits it's the dumbest [ __ ] way. to deal with garbage of all time make.

the troops breathe it in as you burn it. it's the same kind of thing that's. happening in La it's the same [ __ ]. you're breathing burnt garbage burnt. Refuge burnt buildings burnt cars burnt. tires all that stuff you're breathing in. I didn't realize how often you don't. think about firefighters but they're. exposed to that all the guys on the it's. all volunteer R but the guys that you. know in their 50s 60s and you're just.

like hacking all the time yeah and it's. it's like a sacrifice they make. knowingly it's crazy it's the gear is. never because you can't just wash fire. gear right you got to have it specially. washed and so there's like the the. kitchen in the firehouse right and you. can't bring the no gear allowed in the. kitchen cuz it's but you know you put it. on go home you're supposed to shower. every time you but that doesn't happen. so it's just crazy also they're [ __ ]. exhausted like you you don't even want. to shower you just want to close your.

[ __ ] eyes working 28 hours you get a. couple hours to sleep before you get. back out there again it's [ __ ] insane. and still 68% contained today what's. today's date the 23rd 22nd some people. talk about the was the big Camp the. campfire from a few years ago that that. containment number starts getting used. as a big political tool and like it'll. never end up being like 100% it just. kind of keep pushing the number around. to talk about stuff and just it'll never. just eventually just goes away what do. you mean the like the big number for the.

biggest fire like they've contained 100%. of a small fire like the biggest fire it. will just it'll always stay at a number. that's below 100% well if it's still up. no just it's like a political tool. they're saying like the residents there. just got sick of it they they're like. this is now a political thing we're. going back and forth like tell us what. it is right where is the fire if it's. not contained kind of thing like it just. becomes a thing that no one has answers. for right that is a weird thing right we. want to put number numbers on stuff like. like today we're like is it 65 or is it. 68% contain like [ __ ] what it's a.

fire fire still up there's still a fire. right now January 22nd there's still. fire in Los Angeles it's been going on. for weeks when did it start what was the. date the fire start I was reading. through something on the New York Times. one possible thing which doesn't sound. right but they're just going it's. possible in that area someone was. lighting fireworks on the night of the. 1st and there was a small fire that. started and some firemen went up to put. it out and they stayed to see if it was. going to catch back up and 5 days later. they're like it is that the same fire.

cuz it was in a really close to the same. spot be real weird if it started back up. five days later but yeah that doesn't. really make sense that doesn't make also. it doesn't make sense if you think about. how windy it was and the fact that. everything's dry they saying it can go. into the roots which is I'm never that's. where I'm just starting to hear that. okay maybe it can maybe but five days. later it starts up again as a raging. Inferno that's the that's just perhaps. perhaps but there is also evidence that. people lit fires there's also people. that got arrested for lighting fires it.

wouldn't surprise me man if you have you. heard the book monkey wrench gang no eot. terrorism these like friends living out. of a van they go around and back. originally monkey wrenching was. sabotaging for environmental reasons big. equipment to fight. back against that kind of thing okay I. had a friend back in high school went to. this boarding school and he was really. into it and that's where I. learned about this book and but it. wouldn't surprise me if that kind of. thinking carried over in someone because.

we saw copycat so there's definitely. people out there that have a. reason yeah well there's Disturbed. individuals in our society that's why we. have school Shooters right that's why we. have we have a lot of things that people. do that's horrible that are horrible and. one of the things that people do is they. start fires you know it's like it's a. known thing and to pretend that it's not. possible because it doesn't it doesn't. appeal to your narrative it doesn't fit. with your Narrative of the homeless. thing that we just have to be. compassionate because these are people.

and there's a housing shortage and it's. just housing housing housing no you have. open air drug markets and mentally ill. people and fire and it's possible that. that's what's caused it La wildes. rekindle eot Terror arson suspect. Manhunt after fake firefighters arrested. yeah that's the thing there were fake. firefighters that were arrested and. there was also fake cops but I think. that was if if I had to guess it was. more about stealing than anything. because there was organized looting. where they were breaking into homes in.

areas where there were people going to. be abandoned La man I it's not my cup of. tea but it's it's tragic one of those. firefighters has a history of arson. that's why they're talking about this oh. great one of the firefighters one of the. fake firefighters oh yeah there you go. one of whom has a criminal history of. arson gee what's the odds well he. definitely didn't do it again he learned. his wasn't Jamie a fake fir truck a pair. of fake firefighters from Oregon where. did he get a fake fire truck yeah he's.

like dedicated he's like the Michael. Jordan of fake firefighter like a. million bucks he got a used one would. you see the did you see the thing in La. where they had the lot where they showed. all of the fire trucks that were out of. service no hundreds oh they're bringing. them back in service no no no they were. broken down they hadn't bothered fixing. them so a journalist got to the lot and. was filming from the outside I think. shellenberger had it on his Twitter page. but a journalist got to this lot where.

these fire trucks were where they were. supposed to be repaired there was. hundreds that weren't repaired like just. [ __ ] huge parking lot yeah this. is 75 Los Angeles firet trucks wait for. repairs as wildfires rage while City. spends 1.3 13 billion on the homeless. this is New York Post I had heard it was. more than 75 I this guy had a a film of. it and showed and it looked like a [ __ ]. ton of trucks that weren't fixed you.

should have fixed those you would have. had more trucks the reason is going to. be well we're backed up it takes so long. like to get a fir truck even ordered it. takes about a. year God I mean maybe that could work. where there's very few fires and it's. just essentially Home Fires we're fine. where we are but yeah but well it rains. where you are too California it does not. [ __ ] rain for long stretches of time. that I think California had gone 8. months without rain when these fires.

started this is common this is why this. climate change it's climate change this. is not a change in the climate this is. the climate of California you see it. from that 1961 video you see it from. when I was evacuated I three times I was. evacuated the houses in front of my old. house burnt to the ground in 2018 both. of them like when you were talking about. it in that clip that goes around it's. like you're like there's nothing they. can do the right wind it's going this.

firefighter told me that when we were. filming faar Factor he freaked me out he. said it's just going to take the right. wind he goes we just get lucky so is. there any preparation that could have. yeah you got to get rid of all the brush. okay number one you got to get rid of. all the stuff that starts fire that's. possible to do that's not impossible. that's not like putting a person on. Venus this is like something that can be. done like if you have enough money for. all that you have spent $24 billion on. the homeless crisis didn't put a dent in. it you you could have fixed the brush.

you could have fixed that Reservoir that. was empty Giant 11 million gallon. reservoir of water completely dry that. crazy you could have fixed that you. could have saved homes maybe you. wouldn't have saved all of them you. could have saved a lot you could have. saved people's lives and they didn't and. it was incompetent and it was poor. planning and it was you know they had a. lot of. of ideas that weren't good they had a. lot of uh things that they paid.

attention to and things they focused on. that weren't important what was really. important is preventing these kind of. reoccurring disasters continuously. reoccurring disasters I've seen a bunch. of them like I said I was evacuated. multiple times but I've seen multiple. other fires that I wasn't evacuated from. that were huge in all sorts of areas. around La it's dry as [ __ ] one of the. big ones that um we experienced was it.

was like we were out. filming in uh like out in the tachp area. like we're near tone ranch we're filming. this thing at this Ranch we and we had a. cut filming short and when we were. driving home the entire right side of. the highway for. like almost an hour was on fire as I was. driving home so you're driving at as is. falling from the sky like snow and the. whole time you're driving it's. apocalyptic the whole right side of the. highway is inflames I saw a clip of that.

it was just surreal so this has always. been a problem with LA so these climate. change Cooks these left-wing cooks that. want to put everything into these like. very binary categories like this is. because the Republicans refuse to agree. to climate change and call climate. change as a hoax it's a climate change. fi no this is is La this is the climate. of La is this the uh the fir trucks Al. Jones posted it but oh he probably.

posted it too a lot quite a few people. on Twitter posted it but there was all. these fire trucks that were uh in this. lot I this isn't the video that I saw I. think multiple people posted them but. they're all out of commission they're. all just sitting there and you know. obviously they could have used them but. that's only part of the problem part of. the problem is planning correctly part. of the problem is. uh you know there wasn't enough water. for the fire hydrant so the fire hydrant. went. dry the whole thing's nuts and um when.

Trump talked about it on the podcast he. was eerily accurate he was eerily. accurate as to you know what the problem. was and he offered a solution and in to. save the smelt they didn't want to do. this. solution well this department with Elon. like you can just imagine what Elon. could do with like the fire truck. problem yeah but he can't do everything. well you can't do everything with States. right because states have states rights. and they have you know like one of the. things they they arrest this one guy for.

arson and they couldn't necessarily. prove that he uh was an arsonist because. they they didn't they had one guy they. found with a an actual blowtorch where. they couldn't prove that he lit the. fires with the blowtorch but this guy. had been arrested multiple times. including for vandalism and all sorts of. other things and and I believe assault. and Ice wanted to deport him but the. California Sanctuary state law the way.

it's set up they weren't allowed to. deport this guy so they're just going to. let him go he had been arrested eight. times this person in like you know a. short amount of time so it's like a real. problem person and they were like hey. maybe this guy shouldn't be in the. [ __ ] country lighting things on fire. and they're like no we have Sanctuary. Sanctuary still here I don't know I. don't know what the latest is I try not. to pay too much attention I'll go crazy. yeah but California is deep in the. trance deep and I think the only thing. that's going to snap people out of it is.

something like this where they realize. like oh my God these people are. completely incompetent it used to be the. homeless situation was a little bit of a. wakeup call this is like next level this. is like next level incompetence wakeup. call and so I'm hoping that someone can. come along that's a reasonable. conservative person that can shift. things in California like appeal to. people's concerns when it comes to. social issues you know women's rights. gay rights the things that people are. terrified of when it comes to right-wing.

you know when you think about like far. right Fascist governments that are going. to like clamp down on people's rights. like what we're really worried about is. disenfranchised people and marginalized. groups and people that are more maligned. right so if someone can just like appeal. to that say like we have no desire to. stop gay marriage we have no desire to. you know limit women's reproductive. but what we do want to do is make a more. fiscally Sound City and and have more.

conservative policies in terms of what. are we spending our money on and what. are what are the results you can't just. say oh we work for a homeless initiative. and so oh well you got a blank check do. whatever you want to do like it should. be like what have you done how have you. how have you solved the problem hey look. we spent $24 billion and homelessness. went up by a significant amount tens of. thousands of new homeless people while. we spent $24 billion this is not. effective so whatever you guys are doing. you're shitty at it so we don't want you.

doing it anymore we're going to bring in. someone who has some more prog some. something is going to progress the idea. better you know someone who's going to. fix this problem better someone's got a. more pragmatic solution if they could do. that they but they have to appeal to. people that are deep blue they're deep. blue they're blue no matter who and the. problem with California is very unique. and uh more unique than New York in that. California the entire city is. established around the entertainment.

industry and it's established around the. dream if you go to Los Angeles you can. make it well in order to go to Los. Angeles and make it if you're an actor. you have to audition and when you're. auditioning you're auditioning to people. that have almost universally have a very. specific political ideology you can't be. a part of the group you can't can't be a. part of the team if you're a right-wing. Christian Republican and you're making. films that doesn't exist you got like. Mel Gibson and a few outliers that's it.

Clint Eastwood a few outliers for the. most part if you are an actor and you. want to work in Hollywood and by the way. Mel Gibson and all those guys will hire. left-wing people these people will not. hire right-wing people so you see. everyone sort of morph their personality. and morph their political ideology and. their social ideology around what's. going to get them picked yeah because. you're when you're an actor you have to. get picked so if like you and I go for a. part and there's a bunch of other people.

going for a part and we're all like uh. similarly qualified in terms of like the. look that this part is looking. for a lot of it is determined about. whether they like you and Hollywood runs. off the blacklisting idea oh yeah it's. if you if you go against your union. that's how unions have power yes you. cross the picket line you're going to be. blacklisted and we're not you know and. you be Siz and that has real. consequences in LA because people don't. realize what I always describe it when. I'm teaching that class on film making.

Hollywood is the very definition of a. rigged game yes it's a rigged game they. can shut you out and so that this is the. underlying philosophy of the entire city. so even though there's only a certain. amount of people that are actors in La. there's a a lot of people that wanted to. be actors and there's a lot of people. that want to be famous and so they get. their Fame from their small social media. they get like a little adrenaline and. dopamine drip off of like social media.

likes and like maybe I my Tik Tok can go. viral and then they get a little Fame. from that there's a bunch of Fame. Seekers all those people are locked into. this cult-like thinking so it's very. difficult to get them out of. that I it's the. technology I think is going to revolu. we're on the precipice of this we were. talking about Heath Ledger earlier what. happened to those kind of independent. movies that I remember being in high.

school before going into film school and. like watching those monsters ball candy. the small Heath think independent movies. that made you feel like they were just. made for you they weren't like Marvel or. Disney right and I we don't see those. anymore because everything's changing in. the industry for multiple reasons the. strikes had a lot to do with it I think. it's it's this strange Paradox where you. have more of an ability to reach an. audience than ever before but there's.

fewer like writing positions movies. being made there's this shortage of POS. there's this hiring. shortage but camera is more accessible. than. ever you were talking about the. potential for someone to come along I. mean I think it's only a matter of time. till it does happen like the daily wire. is trying kind of with pen Dragon cycle. what's that they're they were doing um. an AR urian Legend their attempted Game. of Thrones which would be if it were to. land could be massive it could I in my.

theory is it could be the Tipping Point. because it's going non my understanding. is this non-union you have Angel Studios. and they're the kind of trying to. compete but we've never had an. alternative to the union model the. traditional production model which. drives up production cost because. there's nothing stopping you from. getting a camera and going out there and. doing it except for the rigged game. which says well we're going to block we. won't distribute your movie there's all. these different parameters you're not. sag sanctioned blah blah blah blah blah. if if daily wire could land the pen.

Dragon cycle and it were to be a solid. enough story on the equivalence of like. Game of Thrones it could it could change. so much but there's the recent Brett. Cooper stuff that's going on it's just. so much Brett Cooper leaving the daily. wire what's that story she was she's no. longer at the daily wire the comment. section you know Brett Cooper she. created the comment section at the daily. wire the comment section comments. section and it's got are you aware of. this Jamie a little bit a little bit.

yeah then they hired someone else to. host yeah I'll break it down break it. down what happed she developed they. hired her like we want you to start yeah. we want you to start this YouTube. channel for Jen Z we want it to feel. like you're a streamer let's hear what. she says let's rewind that [ __ ] let's. hear what she has to say just a little. bit hey guys some of you have heard the. rumors online. and the rumors are mostly true today. December 10th will be my last day. hosting the comment section and working. for the daily wire it is not true that I.

am being forced out it was my own choice. to leave and believe me this is. Bittersweet I have had the most. unbelievable three years helping to. craft the show building this community. and telling stories and sharing the. truth every day through the comment. section you all have made me braver more. articulate more thoughtful more hopeful. than I could have ever imagined and I'm. grateful that we spent this time. together and I'm grateful that the daily. gave us a platform to grow this. community but at this point in my life I. am ready to take on a new Direction both. personally and professionally this means.

new challenges and new Endeavors which I. will share with you soon as for this. show the comment section will continue. with the daily wire my producer Reagan. is taking over as host of the comment. section and I wish her in the daily wire. all the best we have had three great. years and I proud of what we've. accomplished together leaving this show. and the platforms that we've built is. hard but I'm very excited for what's to. come knowing that we have brought so. many people together pause this I'm not. hearing this so what what I'm not. hearing is like what caused no one knows. exactly there's speculation because the.

girl who took the place was her best her. maid of honor and her wedding like best. friend was the producer of the show it'd. be like Jamie taking your place except. obviously not you know but that's what's. happened now and it's nosed dived it's. pulling like it used to pull like half a. million views per video it's pulling. 40,000 now and there was this theory. that they had trained Tred Reagan with. they hired an acting coach cuz her. mannerisms were the exact same hand. movements everything we were talking. about non-verbal communication.

importance of that and it was. Eerie we she has started a YouTube. channel that's already amassed half a. million she hasn't posted any videos so. there's a lot of loyalists to her but. she grew this channel to over four. million people in the last three years. as you were just hearing and she starred. in the pin dragon cycle she used to act. BR what was the problem though we don't. know we don't know there's speculation. that she she it exploded the channel so. she it's likely if we're applying. critical thinking to this it's more than.

likely that she approached Jeremy boring. daily W like look guys I'd like to be. paid more than what I'm making because. I'm pulling more views than anybody the. daily wire possibly is what she was. living on this farm with the commute she. was a little frustrated with that maybe. it's she wanted to there speculation she. wanted to run her show kind of from her. house. more but no no one knows exactly there. indas and everything. so it's hard when someone is a part of a.

channel and then their show blows up and. they realize like oh I could have done. this on my own which is the reality the. reality is like being a part of a. channel like it doesn't really get you. much obviously because the new show only. has 40,000 views right true true but. Jeremy Bing's response would be yeah but. we throw the daily wires advertising. money behind these people we spend a lot. in advertising we lose a lot of money. before we make any money yeah but from. what shows not the shows that are. successful the shows that are successful. are successful like that you lose that's.

the pro that's like the record business. version of uh arithmetic you can't buy. The elusive intangible yeah they're. their record business is notoriously. horrible with that so they they have a. model where when they sign an artist the. artist gets an advance right and then. the advance you're. you're responsible for so much you're. responsible for advertising they they. take into account a bunch of artists.

they spend money on that doesn't create. money so they have all this Hollywood. math that they apply Hollywood. accounting and at the end of it like. they make more than you and you make. almost nothing so that's very likely a. possibility and they throw as much [ __ ]. against the wall as possible think of a. record company you know they might they. might fund a bunch of different artists. dist. yeah and then only one or two of them. take off but those one or two of them. are that's Prince and he's getting. [ __ ] and meanwhile he's a giant.

Superstar like Prince had to change his. name he was like okay well you own. Prince you guys own okay I'm this now. I'm a [ __ ] squiggly line [ __ ] that's. what he did so it was the artist. formerly known as Prince you know and. you know that like Prince for a while. when he was in was it Warner Brothers. whoever he was in dispute with he. changed his name to a symbol huh and. that was how he could still perform. like yeah you don't own this [ __ ] and. there's probably a non-compete Clause. that's is why she hasn't posted anything. yet crazy it's yeah but you know that's.

what you get if you want the shortcut. right the shortcut is being a part of a. a channel you know I'm going to connect. myself to a channel and you know I'm. going to agree to give them x amount. percentage of what I do it's really not. a smart way to do it today and it's not. necessary because today all you have to. do is have a camera and a backdrop and. just start recording and organically if. your content is good your thing can grow. and then it's yours it's all yours and.

then getting advertising is not hard if. you're successful you get an agent you. get an advertising agent and they bring. you meundies ads and all kinds of [ __ ]. next thing you know you're making money. you're making money off your channel and. then your channel grows organically and. then you don't have to deal with. Executives telling you what kind of. guests you should have on or what topics. you should avoid or what things you. should accentuate or we would like you. to talk about this today like all that. stuff is you know and then as you get. more and more famous from your work you. realize no the people like me like this.

is the reason why this show is going on. and I've got to pay these [ __ ] 60%. of everything I'm making and this is. dumb if I was on YouTube independently I. would be rich right now I'd be making. good money I'd have a nice car and. instead I'm getting a salary and my. salary is not really representative of. how much income I'm bringing into the. company yeah I mean you got like someone. like Jordan Peterson and who did partner. with the same company and maybe that. allows him to do more like traveling. over what did they do like the you know.

Jerusalem series I bet he got a better. deal first of all was Jordan Peterson. he's already famous you know and like. they would throw money at him you know. like there was that famous thing with. Steven Crowder where Steven Crowder sort. of yeah people were using that in. context of this saying this this kind of. yeah so and the the Crowder thing was. kind of weird because he recorded a. conversation a private conversation that. he had yeah. but the the whole thing behind it is. like you're getting money to agree to be. a part of a company and the only reason. why they would be willing to give you.

that money is if they're going to make. money like they have to take they're. taking a chance I sort I went through a. similar thing with Spotify but Spotify. was great there was no issues at all it. was like we think this show is really. valuable we're going to give you a lot. of money to be exclusive on Spotify and. just that's it pretty simple no input at. all in terms of like who I should have. on or what I should talk about or you. know there was nothing it was there was. a few hiccups during the covid days. where you know they were experiencing so.

many attacks they were they were getting. like strong pressure to try to remove. the podcast and uh they didn't Buckle. they they hung in there good for them. yeah good for them I'm very loyal to. them because of that because what they. did was pretty extraordinary a lot of. people would have caved and they did not. cave but to bring it you see how that. now is going to they've already filmed. pin dragon cycle this whole thing this. artherion so it's probably going to. impact well I hope it's good you know me.

too the thing is like who's writing it. how good are the people that are writing. it how good is the story hope about the. story yeah it's it's all about the story. it's all about how good is it you know. because it's I was thinking about that. on the. airplane how the the logic of story you. all trying to connect all these dots and. but I think there is a an inherent there. are patterns like I was talking about. mathematics how I can't think about math.

I need a. visual um I think when you're writing a. movie you can when it clicks into place. you can feel it and they call it. cracking the story and they hire writers. to crack the story almost like it's a. math problem so to me that indicates. that there's like this fabric this how I. think about it there's this fabric of. reality that stories tap into that. you're trying to connect connect to and. you can so you feel it when it clicks in.

yeah and you're almost when it is when. it does click and you have that hook. you're like this is the reason to make. why this movie is interesting right. right right then you're almost making it. for the sake of the story not the. audience but the audience will come as a. consequence yeah as opposed to today. where people think they can make movies. for the audience like Disney and but. they're discarding they very fabric of. the reality of these stories and. thinking we can change Snow White right. and then that screws them up yeah [ __ ]. well it's also people like really.

resistant to that now they're getting so. upset about it they don't want you to. force feed them some sort of activist. version of a story they they just want. stories they want the thing where you. know you're saying like you you get it. like oh we found it this is the hook. this is the meat of the story this is. the exciting part this is a thing that. resonates with people that's why it's so. frustrating when you go to a movie and. that never happens you never get hooked. in yeah because you can take the same.

story and tell it different. ways logically there's one ideal way. you're never going to quite get there. but because I was watching beautiful. mind on the airplane which is I think my. favorite movie I'm trying to think of. when's better it's just amazing movie. yeah yeah that movie nailed it yeah they. nailed maybe that's why I'm thinking so. much about like math and everything well. there's kind of a math to it right. that's my point yeah yeah and then. Dunkirk all right so I this blew my mind.

so the golden ratio can be found in. music movies everything then someone. should me on on your arm this is the. golden ratio one wait 1 to. 1.6 then from here one wait sorry 1 to. 1.6 in your hand 1 to 1.6 your finger to. the knuckle one to 1.6 now if you break. down what Nolan did and. Dunkirk this is probably getting too. nerdy and anything he took three. different story lines did what he does. with the shepherd.

tone and air Land and Sea land is a is a. the story is takes place over a week air. a an hour see a. day and then he does with what he does. with the shepher tone which is in Batman. and all of his movies it's an ascending. tone like um a Barber Shop spiral that. is infinite where you it it's the first. sound is like Crescendo and then it. fades out and the middle one is.

consistent the top one is going down and. it sounds to the human ear infinite he. took that which he's used in the bat mod. the Batman's bike the music he's used in. all the prestige in most of his movies. if you listen to dunker you hear this. sound and it's just increasing tension. you don't even notice it almost it's. because it never reaches a crescendo so. you feel like something off but you. never quite get there he then takes that. and structures the freaking story as a. Shepherd tone to the point where at the.

very end and you are in that. freaking the golden ratio so if this is. the meat of the movie in that. final hour of air the three stories. converge there's a mathematical formula. to why it's not a. coincidence and that was what separates. him so there's a math math he seems. uniquely. uninfluenced by pop culture too true. he's I think he famously doesn't have. email he's one of those guys doesn't.

have a phone doesn't have email and. obviously incredibly brilliant person so. he's obviously aware of email he's aware. of phones but I think he's probably one. of those guys that goes you know what. the more that's coming in that's. influencing me is it's going to [ __ ]. with my ability to have a vision a. unique personal Vision based on what I. know resonates with people and what I. know resonates with me and how to make a. story that really works yeah I think. you're writing for yourself you should.

you should treat yourself like that's. what I do with my YouTube stuff it's. like you don't try and do it for an. audio CU well you do it for the thing. you make the thing the best thing it can. do yeah which is what you want to see. that's how you Jud how do you judge it. how do you know if it's good or not. right most because what I would want to. see I'm going to try and make it as good. as what I would want to see right you. know. yeah it is. um it's a fascinating medium right. because now it's also being challenged.

by these shows that are essentially long. movies like Ozark yeah right Ozark's a. long movie yeah it's like and you can. get so much with The Sopranos you get so. much more into depth with the characters. and the interactions and and everything. that's below the boat you know yeah. there's so much more when you have six. Seasons or something I heard you talking. to Tarantino about that yeah well he was. talking he disparaging talked about. Yellowstone being a soap opera but he. but he also talked about uh Homeland.

about Homeland was an exception to that. because it was essentially this amazing. moment at the end of the first season. yeah where the the show is like a. Homeland first season was incredible and. it is like a movie it's really good it's. really well made and at the end of it. you're like wow this is a [ __ ]. incredible piece of just artwork have. you seen Taylor Sheridan's new show. landman I have I watched one episode I. haven't seen it all yet it takes a bit. to get into it but it's he's doing.

something that no one else is doing I. was a little thrown off by the lady. who's playing his daughter cuz she's. clearly like 30 years old and I'm like. how are you telling me she's 17 this CRA. worse with that but but that's crazy. like that girl looks like she's she's. got to be 25 years old at least you. think well let's find out yeah no I know. she is we looked at it from a producer's. perspective yeah you're not going to. hire 18 you're going to hire someone. over 18 for labor laws for sure so she's. definitely well how about to hire. someone that's 18 but you can't 19 so.

then you can get around the lab okay. even 18 19 at least she looks at least. she looks like she could be. 17 yeah that's her 27 dang okay you got. it 27 that's all right you nailed it. beautiful lady but looks like a lady. looks like a beautiful woman does not. look like a high school kid good point. and so when you're seeing that it throws. you off like immediately like what did. what what are you doing here tou this is. nuts yeah it just doesn't make any sense. yeah doesn't not saying she looks bad at. all she looks great she looks but she. looks like a mature woman she doesn't.

look like a young child so when he's got. this Dynamic where he's dealing this. like wild rebellious teenage daughter. yeah and like hey bro she's lying that's. like when was the last time you saw her. that might not be the same person Billy. Bob's hilarious though he's great he's. [ __ ] phenomenal some great rants. about climate change in oil he's a. phenomenal actor well that's the other. thing about climate change like listen. if you really think that it's oil is the. problem with climate change well you. better change your whole [ __ ] life.

everything in your goddamn is that what. he says everything in your goddamn life. is made with oil everything in your hair. everything in your car everything in. your phone everything in your [ __ ]. life is made with. oil and you're reading the elon's elon's. biography on the airplane but n do you. think he could he thinks he could get. the solution with the solar with the. battery. walls and the battery roof could that. work I don't know um it may may work but. you're still dealing with some kind of.

pollution from break dust you're dealing. with uh we we we actually pulled this up. recently we're talking about it was an. enormous percent of more pollutants are. released into the atmosphere because of. electric cars than combustion engines. because of brake dust so electric cars. um the one thing good about electric. cars is specifically Teslas Teslas have. regenerative braking so when I drive my. Tesla often times I don't even have to.

hit the brakes because I just let off. the gas when I'm getting close to an. intersection I gently tap the brakes. when I get close to the line where the. red light is but when you're driving. normally it's like one foot driving the. brakes work but you don't have to use. them because when you let off the brakes. or let off the gas rather the the car. slows itself and it slows it doesn't. Coast like you can't just hit 60 miles. an hour and then let your foot off the. gas and it'll just kind of cruise along. it doesn't do that it slows down like. considerably because it's regenerating.

electricity through this regenerative. braking aspect of it so that probably. has less brake dust than other electric. cars but uh you know there's electric. cars that you'll drive like if you drive. like the Porsche taian it's an amazing. electric car it doesn't have that. regenerative braking thing or at least. it's maybe it's a setting and you know. the car that I was in didn't have it. turned on but when you let off the gas. it just coasts like a regular car so. those cars are much heavier than regular.

cars much heavier and there's a problem. with guard rails because of that so. guard rails are designed for a car. that's specific weight and you know most. cars weigh somewhere in the neighborhood. of 4,000 5,000 lbs but when you add. batteries so if you have a a car that's. filled with enormous amounts of. batteries that car is a lot heavier than. a regular car and some of those cars. just go right through those guard rails. we because there's just too much.

mass yeah so you have more breake dust. that gets into the air because you have. to slow down this much larger heavier. vehicle or much much more mass and when. you're doing that you're generating more. brake. dust and the only solution to that we. talked about it like uh carbon fiber. Brak which are expensive and mostly in. high performance cars they have much. less brake dust so like you know when. you clean your car and you if you're. washing your car you go to the wheels.

there's all that dust that's around the. the dark dust that's around the wheel. that you have to clean that's all breake. dust so that's getting into the air so. if you've in a place that has high. traffic and like stop and go traffic you. get break dust everywhere reading an. article that kind of disagrees with that. and it explains why here in this third. paragraph Okay so it says many of the. claims about EVS causing air prodution. reference figures from mission in. analytics a private company founder Nick. molden said that its measurements show. that particulate emissions can be. 1,850 times more than those from Modern.

car exhaust which have become cleaner. because of regulations but the headline. finding needs some context the tests. have not been peer-reviewed by. scientists and the industry disputes the. findings that doesn't mean anything what. they just said doesn't mean anything. just because they haven't been peer. reviewed and that the industry disputes. it that doesn't mean that it's not true. this was the third article I got to. said that there's less from uh because. of regenerative breaking right what we. just talked about but regenerative. breaking again I don't think is in all.

electric cars um I know it's standard on. Teslas uh crucially all cars produce. those pollutant that's true not just. electric version that's true but that's. not true what they're saying is not true. either because these heavier cars. produce more that's just what they're. saying measuring tiny particle. particulates is very difficult they're. relatively few comparative study so far. that means there's still uncertainty. over whether the extra weight of EV. batteries will res result in worse. particulate pollution but it makes sense.

it's logical so if they're showing this. if he's done a study and it's showing. this in a study this is a logical. conclusion is that an electric Range. Rover um yeah I don't even know that. they. existed was that a new thing I don't. know I never saw one before. there's a lot now it says uh calculate. that EVS are 400 kg heavier on average. because of the bulky batteries yeah so. just because it hasn't been peer.

reviewed doesn't mean it's true and the. reason why they're saying this is. because they're they're trying to put it. into context like yes electric vehicles. are generally better for the environment. particular if you have regenerative. braking but there's also an added. element and what the solution might be. is to make carbon fiber brakes Standard. carbon ceramic brakes standard that you. need them just like you need catalytic. inverters it would be more expensive. though I never heard of that yeah so. most brakes have steel rotors uh you.

know steel uh steel hits this carbon and. it just releases more brake dust or. steel hits the uh the pads releases more. brake dust I've got a hybrid Rav 4 I. love. it yeah well those are really good on. gas I mean something that's good on gas. is going to be better for sure something. that's bad on gas is going to burn more. but the the bottom line is there's. there's problems with all Technologies. in terms of um whether or not they go.

into a landfill like this is a giant. problem with windmills windmills aren't. efficient they're gross looking they. pollute the landscape in terms of the. way it looks you just see these [ __ ]. windmills everywhere and those things. have to go into landfill so you have. these enormous fiberglass propellers. that now have to be buried in the ground. Billy Bob goes on a good rant about the. I don't remember what it was though but. he rips them apart yeah they're not. effective they're not they're not good. enough for what they do to the. environment you know they they kill. whales that's the other thing you know.

Trump talked about that too that these. things when they set these things up you. know uh near the ocean like the sound is. [ __ ] with these whales oh I didn't. yeah it's not good it's not the way to. go maybe solar's better uh but you know. if you have like enormous areas of land. that are covered in solar panels that. looks gross too yeah but if we could. just have like one designated area in. the center of the like take you know a. state and [ __ ] make that state just a. battery maybe that would work yeah maybe.

La maybe when La Burns To The Ground. look it's already toxic let's just turn. the P into a battery how are they going. to rebuild if it's like yeah there's. nothing we can do if this happens again. well it's also the fire Insurance. problem that a lot of uh insurance. companies pulled their fire coverage. because they're like look nothing's. being done to stop these fires we know. the fires are coming we're going to lose. all of our money we're just going to. pull out out and they did that and so. now a lot of these people that lost. their homes were not insured so now. they're really [ __ ] and then you got. Gavin Newsome on TV talking about.

speculators coming land speculators. doing his little [ __ ] dance and. you're like what is what are you guys. doing over there like this is this. horrible this is horrible and uh what. what Solutions are on the table well. I'll tell you it's not not as simple as. don't drill for oil you know like God. damn it I don't see the mayor making it. through. this she doesn't seem like she should. make it through no she wasn't she like. some sort of a radical communist. activist when she was younger too I. don't know yeah but that clip of her in.

the airport it's like really yeah you're. not not good not responding at all look. shell shocked and then smiling when. she's on TV we're going to rebuild with. a bunch of construction workers behind. her I look we're rebuilding just smiling. we're going to re we're going to get to. work like you're not going to get to. work you're not going to get to work. you're not going to have these people. aren't going to have the money to. rebuild where's the money going to come. from you going to give them the money. for those homes you're talking now about. $300 billion worth of damage and.

Counting right are you you going to. Shell out $300 billion do to give those. people their homes back when someone has. an 82 million home are you going to give. them that $82 million and rather than. Pay Teachers more money in North. Carolina in the middle of Appalachia you. have people with cheaper homes than. anywhere in La they're not getting right. money back there's no they're not. they're not even getting attention. anymore these people are waiting in line. for fuel they're waiting in line for. Propane fuel so they don't freeze to. death yeah that's crazy crazy I was just. down there over the holidays and saw my.

brother and I we invested in a little. the only thing I've ever invested in. like that little Airbnb like super cheap. and it's just. gone but so everything's gone there it's. it's it was a crazy disaster but again. you could say that's climate change but. what the problem with that statement is. that the climate has never been static. there has never been a moment in human. history where the climate was absolutely. predictable to the degree every year. it's just not the case climate varies it.

has always varied the real question. should be how much of an impact are we. having on it and how much of an impact. are we having on pollution the pollution. in the particulate is that's a real. issue that's a real issue and if other. countries aren't addressing that I read. something find out if this is true that. China right now is responsible for more. pollutants in the atmosphere more carbon. in the atmosphere than all the other. countries comb I wouldn't doubt it at.

all I wouldn't doubt that they're like. majority of the pollutants in the. atmosphere are coming from there and. they're not going to change so you. switching to an electric car or you stop. using a gas stove or you whatever you're. doing it's not going to have an impact. if CO2 is entirely what's going on and. even if we got to the climate neutral. that doesn't stop global warming it. doesn't stop a shift in the change that. has always gone up and down throughout.

recorded history when we do ice samples. when they do core samples and they go. back 10 15 20,000 50,000 years there's. always been enormous shifts in the. temperature half of North America was. covered in a mile high sheet of ice up. until 12,000 years ago so miles in some. places more than a mile so there's. always been shifts in the climate long. before there was any Industrial. Revolution long before there was any gas. powerered cars China missions a seed all.

developed Nations combined combined yeah. and they're not going to change that. they're not gonna they're not going to. shift that that's what they do long term. I think China's POS poses the greatest. Potential Threat still I heard there was. you had a CIA X CIA guy on who was. talking about the 21-year plan from. China that blew my mind because then. when I was in graduate school it was. like 80% of the other students were from. China and I'm not ex No One Believes.

that I there was multiple classes where. I went in I was the only nonch not just. American student non-chinese student. there'd be 15 people in the class yeah. when I showed my thesis film I went in. and the whole Auditorium was Chinese and. every other film that played that night. was in Chinese wow so you're like and I. tried to do a documentary on it and then. I was kind of there were con people and. like that all I was doing was asking. questions like how'd you end up coming. straight from for this and it it's a. societal there's. a you know what's the word the parents.

want to do it there's a a social aspect. it's like it's viewed as a something. that's you want to do and then there was. the one child policy for a long time so. they can afford to do it and but it's. it's crazy yeah it's we're we're in a. very strange time of narratives and. Truth where narratives to many people. are more important than objective truth. and that's never good for anybody it's. never good for anybody to ignore the. reality of what's going on no and I.

there's a lot of I mean Peterson and you. talked about this a lot the in the. postmodernism the effect of. postmodernism the fact that there's an. infinite variety of interpretations to. stories. but. it's that doesn't mean that there's. not everything's not just a social. construct it doesn't mean mean that. there's not an ideal to strive for yeah. and the the problem with people that. talk about climate change is they never. talk about China emissions they talk.

about America they Trump wants to pull. us out of the Paris Accord they want to. do this they want to do that like look. look at what's going on in the world. like you're not going to stop China from. producing more CO2 and more emissions. and all the other developed Nations. combin and you're not even talking about. it if you really wanted to address the. problem it would be that that's the. problem that's the biggest part of the. problem what's the biggest offender it's. China and they don't talk about that at. all because they don't want to be racist. so it's like they just want to.

concentrate on people that you know live. in America yeah yeah and and then. criticizing the idea of drilling for oil. well you said at the beginning of this. conversation too you were talking about. the potential for both sides and we are. in a strange time as well where we're. seeing things coming from both sides. that are very strange this rethinking of. like Winston Churchill and everything. there's just what's the rethinking of. Winston Churchill uh when Tucker Carl. said had on I'm forgetting the name of. the historian doesn't matter marma Daryl.

Cooper Daryl Cooper yeah I think people. ask me sometimes after all this video. stuff they're like What's the what would. you recommend reading and studying for. critical thinking and I think Winston. Churchill is the ultimate example of. critical thinking thinking is all about. the thinking for yourself or the long. term when everyone around you is telling. you that you're wrong when the stakes. are at their highest is what he was. dealing with and it's such a fascinating. time World War to I just think there's.

so much you could just study that. conflict and gain so much Insight one. thing that uh my friend Chris Stephano. brought up on the podcast um that blew. me away was Operation. Unthinkable I haven't heard that one. that was a proposal from Winston. Churchill at the end of World War II to. go to war with Russia that the Soviet. Union was getting too big and powerful. and they would take the Nazis that they. had they' take the German soldiers and. then go invade Russia I haven't heard. that it wouldn't surprise me he was he.

did not like Stalin because with. Roosevelt they they got buddy buddy. there's some my whole thesis was on this. the untold story of Churchill's role. with Harvard Harvard's role the. president of Harvard meeting with. Churchill secretly when the blitz was. going on and Roosevelt was up for. reelection couldn't travel over there to. meet with him because and this Echoes to. today exactly what we were talking about. 98% of the public were against. involvement in World War II that's why.

they called it the European conflict. it's not it's not our fight and he knew. it was inevitable and he couldn't be. seen talking to Churchill in that way. because they were publicly they were. like nope Lind lease program we're not. assisting like if you watch Darkest Hour. they do a good job of showing the. extremes like we can send hor es that. pull the weapons across the border but. we can't be seen so he sent the. president of Harvard of all places this. is where the secret scholar Society came. from was this story and I found it in.

the Harvard archive when I was. researching for my D's film whoa yeah. and I was blown away I was like how is. no one and it Taps into Oppenheimer so. James B con that guy on the left that's. the president of Harvard this is. afterwards Churchill comes for an. honorary degree after everything's won. and everything Conan on the left flies. over there meets with him they make a. secret deal they have all this research. they have they're ready to do raadar. it's developed but they can't build it.

they're cut off from the world all of. Europe has fallen except England they. stand alone their darkest hour and he is. desperate he's just trying to hold out. until America will join imagine being in. that position everyone around you is. saying we have got to surrender we have. got to negotiate and he's like no he's. like NOP only when the last of us is. choking in their own blood he's like we. have to fight to the death that's not. logical but it's what saved them when.

does illogical Behavior save you that's. something that connects to the very. fabric of reality that goes beyond what. we can articulate connects like. spirituality when do like living as. though God existed saved them in a. way so he negotiates with Conan and they. bring that Tech back develop a secret. lab at Harvard to build it all. that's where sonar came from Napal there. was a special the Harvard candle named. after Harvard it's a remarkable story.

that it's so deep I could talk about you. know what I found out last night my. friend Kurt metzer told me this um we. were talking about the Elon Gaff where. he's like my heart goes out to you like. hey don't do that though that's the. perfect example of when you see a story. you believe it's true if you believe. he's um a Nazi you're going to see him. do a silly hand gesture and see that as. that well he's saying my heart goes out. to you but that is how the Nazis did it. yeah yeah but this is the thing this is.

what I found out last night that's also. how they used to do the Pledge of. Allegiance really the Pledge of. Allegiance used to be done like this. until the Nazis came along and then we. switched it to this your hand over your. heart so we cut out that part there's. going to be a screen grab of you well. there's already screen grab this is. what's funny um CNN during the the covid. times in particular whenever I get in. trouble the photo they would use of me. was me at the UFC weigh-ins so when I do. the weigh-ins I announce the weigh-ins I. say welcome to the weigh-ins everybody. I'm waving to the crowd that's what they.

did so they would use this photo of me. so to try to make it look like I was. some sort of a Nazi whatever cuz I'm. waving to the crowd and they take a. freeze frame of it I'm like welcome to. the Ws everybody I'm I put my hands out. to the crowd I'm saying hi to. everybody I'm I'll show you this Jamie. you probably could find it if you look. for it but I'm going to show you what it. looked like in the old days when I'm. looking at I was trying to find a. different different explanation I have a. picture of it that's why I was just. [ __ ] for better versions well yeah.

that's it that's how they did the Pledge. of Allegiance oh interesting I how crazy. is that that's crazy that's in 1942 y so. this is you know and then we realize oh. we can't do that anymore that's how the. Nazis do it it's right around that time. Pledge of Allegiance would be your right. hand up in the air interesting how crazy. is that well we were in we were just. getting into World War I so we didn't. have the the views of Hitler embodied in. us pretty bizarre though it is you know. the. yeah now you're not allowed to do that.

anymore I didn't know that crazy but. it's like they're so funny because. because of this there's all these photos. of AOC with her arm out like this and. Michelle Obama it's like everybody's a. Nazi it's so dumb you can go look at. anybody and find that something yeah if. you move your arms at all you try to. catch a ball you know anything you're. doing where arms up in the air now. you're a Nazi like oh my God how about. that uh that Hindu guy that was kept his. arm up in the air for like 60 years you. know that not familiar never seen that.

we talked about him the other day who. brought him up I did you Jimmy Jamie. brought him up so this is this guy who. has not put his arm down and like some. insane amount his arm is like shriveled. it's useless a Devotion to Lord Shiva so. he his uh to like to show his devotion. he decided I'm going to keep my arm up. forever and now his arm's Frozen in. place and now he's like a really really. old man that's what he looks like okay. how crazy is that that's crazy he has a. useless right arm now look look at his. fingers are all twisted up and [ __ ] up. his nails are all [ __ ].

up his right arm is essentially. completely useless it just stays like. that it doesn't move. anymore power of stories. nuts yeah 1973 decided to raise his. right arm 90 degrees to the air his. fingers have withered to the palm of his. hand his knuckles are white with rot and. his nails have grown long and twisted. well he's a. Nazi oh I didn't make that connection I. was like why. you that guy's doing a Nazi salute.

forever about that I didn't think about. that that's how dedicated he is to be a. Nazi connected he won't even put the. hand down he's all in all in Forever. until he dies they're going to have to. get him in a super long coffin how's. Elon handling this whole he probably. like what the Yeah he was definitely. what the [ __ ] and he was happy that the. ADL of all people uh defended him yeah. that was good yeah well it's obvious. like anybody but all these people on. Twitter are just chiming in saying it's.

clearly a Nazi salute he's doing a Nazi. salute yeah no no so dumb it's so dumb. it's not clearly yeah it's CRA the whole. thing's crazy but that's a sign of the. times and they couldn't help it they saw. a thing and they're like this is the. we're going to run with it he's clearly. showing he's a Nazi you know that. Trump's in office and he's a Nazi and. this is fascism is real folks here it is. this my heart goes out to. [Laughter].

you it's just weird it's illogical and. weird but it's a sign of this thing that. is a real problem in today where people. will pretend something is something. other than what it is if it suits their. narrative right and that's what this is. yes our story yeah the power of story. that that really truly is a great. example of the power of story cuz the. story that everyone's afraid of is that. this right-wing dictator has gotten into.

power and he's brought with him this. billionaire oligarch who happens to be. one of the richest men if not the. richest person on the planet Earth and. this guy is secretly a Nazi and he's. been hiding it all these days until. Trump got in office like let's go yeah. yeah it would make a great movie yeah. it's. well it's it's fascinating but it also. um what it does is it opens the door for. people like yourself it opens the door. for reasonable logical people who can.

talk about things in uh an objective. critical way and just like analyze well. what is this why do we think this what. is the cause of this and that's really. how you got on the map by just being a. voice of reason and in a time where. there's very little reason anybody that. steps up that say you know and says. something that makes people resonate it. resonates with people to the point where. like yes more of this guy more people. like that like I like how this guy.

thinks I like how this guy talks and uh. that's what I got out of it it's surreal. I don't know I don't think about it I. try not well you shouldn't think about. it yeah you can't think about it well. then you get audience captur right and. it you freeze too it's it's like Heath. ler acting he's like you can't you think. about like oh 100,000 people might see. what I'm going to you just can't talk. that's probably why Christopher Nolan. doesn't have a phone you. know same kind of thing like to make the. kind of films have you reached out to. him no tomor no I haven't I don't even.

know if he does any interviews I don't. know rarely I'd love to have him on. though I'm a huge fan of his work I. think he's brilliant I obviously he's. not just brilliant like amazing like. unusual uniquely brilliant he's got this. mathematical mind and he approaches. story in that way so did cubrick There's. a lot of parallels there right yeah yeah. yeah cubric in his spare time would do. complex. math I wish yeah that's. crazy yeah so his films were all like.

cubric films all had like encoded things. in that yeah I heard you talking to. Tarantino or somebody about the Lost cut. of eyes white is that eyes white yeah it. was Roger Avery okayer Avery and. Tarantino and so Roger Avery was. discussing how there was supposed to be. a narrator through eyes wide shut and. they changed that and after he died when. curic died before they they they made a. different cut of the film and he firmly.

believes that it should be like recut. and it should be done with a narrator. and in AI you could actually probably do. cubric narrating it if you wanted to you. know you could get samples of his voice. and he could narrate it um but that. would you know you you would also like. how would you know how he would cut it. he'd kind of be [ __ ] around but. apparently there's many scenes that. never made it into it that cubrick. wanted in and then in the Final Cut they. changed yeah The Shining is filled with.

them it's filled with like there's a all. the the moonlanding conspiracies have. all CL clung on to it cuz the the room. number that's like the haunted room is. uh I think it's 237 is that the room. whatever the number is is the amount of. miles in in hundreds of thousands. between Earth and the Moon uh the the. little boy when he's in the hallway is. wearing the Apollo 11 uh t-shirt he's. got a sweater that has the Apollo Rocket. on it there's like all sorts of weird. [ __ ] that these people cling to that.

like weird sub oh it's fascinating. there's a whole documentary on it the. subtext Behind The. Shining The Shining is a [ __ ]. incredible movie which by the way which. is really interesting Stephen King. didn't even like he didn't like that. movie which is so crazy because it was. different than his novel so in his novel. The Jack Nicholson character I forget. the name of the Jack Nicholson character. starts off normal and becomes crazier. and crazier and what he didn't like is.

that Jack Nicholson is pretty on tilt. right away and seems off from the very. beginning and then just descent into. madness accelerates very quickly that's. what I was talking about like there's. different ways to tell that same story. and you can feel it when it kind of. Clicks in but which is right the. audience doesn't lie and then Stephen. King did his own version of The Shining. as a television miniseries did he yeah. but it wasn't wasn't very good it wasn't.

effective you go there was something. about it it just didn't work the same. way that elusive intangible thing that. can't be bought can't be replicated. everyone's after it yeah no one can. articulate it yeah what makes a good. actor why was he theder a good actor. there right and that's what another. great example of like why those boats. are Superfluous to the everything else. mhm yeah it's uh all about telling the. story right and some people what's going.

on uh his ass Kubrick's assistant says. in an interview in 2013 like a year. after the movie came out that kubri. would have agreed that 70 to 80% of that. movie was pure gibberish because he. wouldn't be doing stuff like that which. movie I was watch room 237 the one about. the oh that was The Shining and all the. behind it even 80% is too pure. gibberish what does that mean that means. 20% is legit I just I mean he wouldn't.

it's just I hear he wouldn't tell an. audience what to think or how to think. and if they came out thinking something. different than him that's F it's hard to. say though cuz someone saying that that. is their personal assistant they're not. speaking for cubert Stephen King said. the same thing when he saw it he said he. had to turn it off cuz it was [ __ ]. turn what off the movie The Shining. itself no no no room 37 the. documentary right but Stephen King also. didn't like the shining you know these. are like people's personal opinions on. things it doesn't mean it's not true and. it's also like cubric in many of his.

films did have like hidden subtext and a. lot of he was a fascinating guy like all. like. 2001 2001 is a fascinating moovie you. miss a lot of it when you you have to. like rewatch it over and over again to. get what he was trying to say like what. what was he doing in that film like what. was he there's many many layers to his. fil MMS that I I you know he had his own. way of doing it he might not have done. it mathematically with the score the way. Christopher Nolan did but there was. something mathematically I shouldn't. even say that word though because it's.

it's it's just patterns he's still using. patterns mathematics is just a language. that allows us to articulate the a form. of those patterns that said what Stephen. King said and what Cub's assistant said. also Rings true because people try to. find patterns in everything even. patterns that don't exist people they. always try to find conspiracies that. don't exist and patterns that don't. exist there's like a natural inclination. that people have to like uncover Secrets. like what's the secret behind this what.

is he really saying yeah yeah what's he. really doing. yeah are you um still going to make. films are you more committed to is it. like do you feel like this thing that. you're doing what is your secret scholar. what is your YouTube page scholar. Society is the YouTube channel why did. you decide to call it that that story I. was telling you that was from from yeah. there was um right before the viral. video I was working on a short it's.

there's a little experimental I. shouldn't call it a short film it was me. with a camera and that music teacher in. like a month we threw this thing. together it's not a movie so people love. to CRI like Warren's last movie he like. it's like dude it's not that's not don't. hold that to the standard like the other. ones you can hold to a standard of a. movie but that one was just an. experimental like Be Me by. myself I would love to keep doing that. right now it's about putting food on the. table and fighting for the algorithm.

keeping the algorithm on my side which. is right cuz you're unemployed right and. there's potential to teach but I'm. making more doing what I'm doing yeah. and you're teaching by doing that too. you are at it I do look at it that way. because any kind of really intelligent. discourse where you get to watch it and. observe people talking about things and. you've done a lot of really good stuff. where you're breaking down interviews. and breaking down uh Congressional.

testimonies and things like that and the. way people are reacting to things and. how people are laying stuff out the all. that stuff is very educational and for. young people in particular maybe people. that found you through those initial. videos then they'll be able to see how. you sort of break down all of these. interactions and they'll be able to sort. of think that way themselves like oh why. does a person say things that way what. are they trying to do what why are they. appealing to Authority why why why is it.

important to recognize that this is a. pattern to shut down criticism and then. why is it that this is not this is not. necessarily the truth yeah the art of. critical thinking yeah I was kind of. thinking like Sherlock Holmes was my as. a kid my favorite fictional character. and I think it appealed he was really. the first kind of super hero serial. monthly episodes strand magazine sure. and he has no superpowers just his. mind which makes us feels like I could.

do that if I could just see the world. like him he has nothing I don't have. technically and he does it we're. presented the same. information it's just what he does with. that information it makes you feel like. you have a potential for that power. within you you just got to know how to. unlock it so I kind of playing with like. the art of that's why the the slogan on. the channel is the art of critical. thinking it was his was the science of. deduction but yeah it is an art too. though because when someone does it. really well it's kind of.

beautiful critical thinking when you. watch like a conversation between two. people and they break the there's a. there's an igniting of your your mind. that is kind of beautiful it's. artistic hopefully hopefully you can. sometimes get there you know no I think. I think you do get there you get there. for sure you've gotten there with me I. think uh there's a lot of people that do. that and it's that that kind of critical. thinking people they gravitate towards. it because there's not a lot of it in. the world and especially if you live in.

if you exist daytoday in a corporate. culture where you're sort of locked into. whatever ideology your company is and. you're trying to make your way up the. company ladder so there's like office. politics and there's a you know a. certain sort of mentality and narrative. that's been distributed through the. company connected to it like you're very. suppressed and your thinking is very. boxed in and you know you're forced to. put those blinders on that we talked. about earlier you have to put those on. if you want to move in the company if.

you want to exist like if you're in an. environment that requires you to behave. and think a certain way in order to. succeed well you want to succeed so what. what are the rules to this game I'm. playing okay you know if you're playing. poker you you have rules like if you're. playing chess you have rules and you. can't succeed without following the. rules and that's the case in everything. but often times in society when you. exist in a corporate environment or any. kind of especially an educational. environment right if you exist in an.

academic environment it it's very clear. rules and if you do not follow those. rules you will not succeed if you go. against the people that are in charge. you're going to like what happened to. you you're going to get fired you're. going to get removed you have to follow. the rules if you want to succeed and. people feel very suppressed by that. because they know that these rules rules. aren't necessarily just they're not. necessarily accurate they're not. objective they're not reasonable they're. not logical they're just the rules. people hate the rules when they're just.

the rules it makes them especially. students yeah especially young people. man yeah they sniff that out so fast and. now there's examples of the rules being. [ __ ] you know now because of your. show and a bunch of Jordan Peterson a. bunch of different things that are. available now for young people to. consume they can realize like no these. people that are making these rules are. idiots they're [ __ ] and they might. be intelligent they might have a good. education they might have a lot of. information that they can like spit out.

that makes them seem logical but they're. not looking at things correctly they're. they're captured by a. narrative yeah I reading elon's books. like on the air the airplane that he had. that algorithm it's essentially if. there's a regulation if there's a rule. figure out who who's requiring that rule. question it I forget the other ones but. it's making it all more efficient it all. stems from just questioning everything. mhm that's what's going to be really. interesting about him becoming a part of.

the Department of government efficiency. like because when if he's going to apply. that to the most inefficient I bet he. will because he would it says right it's. like he would go around preaching this. algorithm and he genuine really believed. it and it makes logical sense there's a. logical flow to him in his decision. making that's laid out in that biography. yeah but you're also going against a. culture that has operated with impunity. for so long and has grown exponentially.

like there's more government agencies. than there have been years of the. government which isra that's crazy they. just keep making new government agencies. and the way to combat that make another. one make another government agency that. corrects all the government agencies. inefficiencies yeah it's going to be to. me the the the department of government. efficiency and then make America healthy. again movement those are the two most.

fascinating things that are going on. simultaneously with the Trump. administration because I'm so curious. because there's so many hurdles with. whatever Bobby Kennedy's going to have. to jump through to make real change and. you're seeing the response to that like. red dieye number three getting pulled by. the Biden Administration like hey. [ __ ] you could have done that a. long time ago you knew that stuff. shouldn't have been in food it's not in. food in Canada you knew that shouldn't. have been in food and you waited until.

right before Bobby Kennedy got in where. you know he's going to make it outlawed. you know he's going to get rid of all. that and you see the resistance to it. you seeing this resistance to fluoride. being removed from the drinking water. everybody's saying oh no we need. fluoride for teeth like brush your. [ __ ] teeth [ __ ] let's not put. neurotoxic chemicals in everybody's. water. the way I describe it I said it's like. people are dying of skin cancer let's. put sunscreen in the apples like no no. the put sunscreen on. [ __ ] or don't it's probably bad.

for you too there's a lot of evidence. that that that's not good for you that. really like Progressive sun exposure is. the way to do it and the real problem is. that when no one gets sun exposure and. then you get too much all at once and. that's how you get sunburn yeah it'll be. interesting to see what he does with. education boy good luck we need yeah. that's one thing I miss I do Miss. teaching I miss being in the classroom. like that with those kids well I think. you should definitely do more of that. but I'm really happy you're doing what. what you're doing thank you that like I. said when I saw you I was like oh is. this young intelligent guy super.

reasonable and I look younger than I am. how old are you 37 no you're still young. I'm 57 I'm old I'm allowed to call. you're you're just a kid I wish but you. know it's like it's an important service. it really is and we need and there's. more people like that now um in the. public eye than I think has ever been. because of YouTube especially in terms. of the impact like what's the most.

watched video that you have like how. many views does it have a million okay. just imagine a lecture that reaches a. million people when does that ever. happen Peter was talking about this this. Gutenberg revolution of YouTube and. there's only one other Professor okay. you've got like Eric Weinstein and all. the okay put all of them thought Sam. Richardson School of Communications is. the only and he's doing it every class. is streamed live and the university is. cool with it all the students are cool.

with it there like 200 students in the. auditorium they come up on stage and. he's applying critical that he. challenged them on the CEO of Papa. John's concept where he got fired for. saying the nword with the context of. that's not a good thing to say which is. and really interesting to see and he his. office hours I got to join him for his. office hours and was live streamed. there's that's just using this. technology in such a remarkable way. there's so much potential for that in. schools in education but everyone's so.

afraid because they don't want to put. themselves out there that school was. terrified that their name would get out. there they're they're so used to going. through life without any ability for the. public to see what's going on because no. one would care first of all no one cares. and then suddenly there's the potential. and it changes is your world then the. question is look if you're that. scared of transparency you're probably. doing something wrong like right it's. not just what you do but how you do it.

right and you should never be scared of. discussions yeah especially if you're an. educational. institution you should never be scared. of discussions like it's one of the most. important ination yes there's this. technology is incredible. you yeah it's it's nuts and it never. existed before and there's a lot of. resistance because there's been. Gatekeepers to information that have. existed for the longest time and it made. the distribution of propaganda much more. easy yeah much much easier and much more.

effective yeah and now that doesn't work. anymore because these things like this. is bigger than all those things why. because it's not full of [ __ ] it's that. simple right interesting conversations. from people that aren't full [ __ ] yeah. turns out that's what people actually. want they just been dumped on with. nonsense for so long that people have. got accustomed to thinking no that's. that's what you're supposed to get. you're supposed to get uh you know late. late night talk show host version of.

what's happening in politics that's what. you're supposed to get you need people. with integrity and so I would I would. say thank you for having the Integrity. to how many people when presented with. kamla Harris or Cala Harris to do that. interview to be like no we're going to. do it for real if we're going to do it. I'll do it yeah it's like there's just. so many other people would have just. compromised I thought about it I thought. about I I'm was sitting around like how. do I do sure tough I didn't.

know there's a there's a concept in. jiujitsu that the Gracies uh came up. with about cooking someone and the idea. is like someone can spaz out in the. beginning they could be real strong and. pull out of submissions but eventually. I'm going to cook them eventually I'm. going to keep hitting my moves till I'm. going to get to a dominant position and. they're going to get tired and I'm going. to cook them and then I'm going to. submit them and you need time to do that. if you had a if hoist Gracie had a. Jiu-Jitsu match with a giant bodybuilder. and the match is only 10 seconds long he.

might not be able to get the guy in 10. seconds he doesn't have enough time but. if you give Hoy Gracie an hour that. guy's gonna get cooked right and the. thing about a conversation like with the. k haris thing was like I genuinely just. wanted to talk to her I thought I could. like have a real conversation I've seen. her be funny this is like really funny. video of her meeting her uh her uh. mother-in-law and father-in-law for the. first time and that the woman grabs her. face she's oh look at you like Doug M.

Hoff's mom grabs her face you're be like. it was really funny like she's laughing. hard but she's laughing like it's. authentic it's a really fun see if you. can find it it's very funny huh and I. was like that person's in there and that. person. is dealing with Incredible pressure of. being in front of millions of people. they're all scrutinizing every word she. says and that pressure causes people to.

Bumble their words and say things in. Cycles because they're trying to. Dismount they don't know how to maybe. they're not the best public speaker. maybe not the most articulate at forming. sentences but they have good ideas and. you got to get those people comfortable. you got to find out what what what is in. there and so my thought was like there. was a few things they didn't want to. talk about they initially didn't want to. talk about internet censorship but then. they changed their mind and did want to. talk about it which I thought was. interesting like they maybe they had a. solution they said if he throws this at.

you you're gonna say this like okay we. got it okay let's talk about tell him we. want to talk about internet censorship. they didn't want to talk about the. legalization of marijuana but that was. probably because of her prosecute. prosecutorial record you know she. prosecuted a lot of people for marijuana. crimes so I was like okay we don't have. to talk about those things I'll talk. about whatever you want to talk about I. don't care I just want to get to you and. you give me 3 hours I'll find out who. you are we could talk about nature we. could talk about the environment we. could talk about space we could talk. about do you believe in reincarnation.

like I want I'll get to who you are I. want to get to who you are I got to cook. you why wouldn't you do that because she. didn't want to get. cooked because it's scary because you. could [ __ ] Bumble it you could [ __ ]. up you know or you could be Trump where. he comes in it doesn't give a [ __ ]. there's no discussion whatsoever about. topics he'll talk about anything and. just talk and that guy would talk for. three [ __ ] hours no problem at all. had no problems didn't ask to edit it.

she they wanted to know whether they had. editing control they wanted to be able. to edit things out like if she did. Bumble which is Trump's big lawsuit with. uh CBS because of 60 minutes because. they edited her answers that made her. seemed like she had a more intelligent. answer which is essentially election. interference debate yeah no uh an. interview so there was a KLA Harris. interview and uh Trump sued um and. there's a lawsuit that's still going on. right now it is CBS. correct what were his ground what.

because they changed her answer so. someone [ __ ] up and released uh like a. a teaser of the conversation and in the. teaser she was bumbling and fumbling to. answer this question and in the actual. show on CBS they had edited that and put. in a completely different answer to. something else as the answer to this. question that seemed more logical and. made more sense it was much more. succinct and short and he was saying.

like you [ __ ] idiots like you did. this You released it on video on the. internet first and then you had a. different version on CBS do you think. people don't remember something that was. just released like a two days ago as. like a preview to this thing but in. between the time that the video his this. is Trump's argument in between the time. the video was released on the internet. and the response that it got all the. negativity and all the criticism that it. got and all the ne the backlash to how.

she responded to that question they. edited it and changed the. response and so he's suing and he's got. a point he's got a real point because. you shouldn't allow them to edit it and. make it look like it was better than it. really was if this is I mean this is not. just a conversation where someone set. [ __ ] up about they made a flub and. they said oh can you take that out no. this is like a response to like critical. policy issues that are going to affect. the entire country if you run into. president like if you become president. do you know how to address a situation.

do you have a plan do you do you know. what this problem is and do you have an. actual solution and if you don't and if. you're kind of bumbling around your. words people should be able to see that. because that's one of the things that. we're deciding this election on so for. someone like her that's had those kind. of experiences where she said the wrong. thing and done the and said things like. God I wish I had a chance to reconsider. that I would have said it differently. because you just that thing that you say. even if it's under a high pressure. situation like an interview on CBS that. High Press situation that caused you to.

Fumble now people are going to say that. is your opinion period this is your. perspective period where meanwhile if. she had time to consider that question. and come up with a logical answer and. then like rehearsed that logical answer. and been ready she might have done much. better job. so that's the fear of not having any. power over editing because in a. three-hour conversation you can't really. prepare I think they did think they had.

a preparation the only thing that makes. sense to me is why they would just. change their tune on internet censorship. that they wanted to talk about that they. must have had some sort of logical. reason why a certain amount of. censorship is important because you want. to protect against misinformation. disinformation and hate speech and so. this was something that uh Tim wal was. saying openly when he was on the. campaign Trail is that free speech does. not include hate speech but it does how.

do you define hate speech exactly. exactly because your definition of hate. speech might just be misgendering. Caitlyn Jenner that might be hate speech. you know so if you're talking about. Bruce Jenner winning the decathlon what. are we saying if you can't say Bruce. Jenner because if if you you know if you. want to look at the reality of this. biological male who wins the Olympics as. a male and then transitions to becoming. a woman if you're telling me that I can. no longer discuss the fact that this was.

a biological male with a different name. and it's hate speech well you've. essentially put the handcuffs on. reality Church the quote my favorite. Churchill quote democracy is the worst. form of government except for all the. others and I use that if anyone if. anyone tries to get into the Free Speech. debate I do think the approach that. elon's using on X short of the law. freedom of speech short of the law we. already have that objective line. framework we know when it's cross that's. what the law is there for we don't need.

any other subjective interpretations. yeah what is hate speech all what's. happening in England that doesn't mean. that there's not potential for someone. to misuse it same way democracy is going. to end in inequality in certain areas. you're going to have inequality no. matter what we do because there's going. to be in capital capitalism is the worst. economic approach except every other one. right there's problems to it that's. right that's right people love when they. debate you they point out these little.

flaws that well here's an anecdote of. how hate speech was used here's a. potential of course there's going to be. potential flaws but it doesn't right. mean you have a better alternative what. is your alternative solution exactly. exactly well listen man I really enjoy. talking to you I really enjoy what. you're doing I appreciate you and uh. thank than you for being here uh tell. everybody again it's secret scholar. Society yeah Warren Smith uh- secret. scholar Society uh on YouTube on YouTube. and um are that's the only thing you're.

using currently X it's WT Smith 177 for. some. reason secret Scholars is the uh handle. on uh YouTube and on uh patreon you have. a secret Scholars thing oh that's like. yeah if you go to patreon you can watch. behind the scenes and exclusive perfect. you know love patreon I love what they. do thank you very much appreciate was. aesome all right bye everybody. [Music]. [Applause].

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