Joe Rogan Experience #2242 - Bert Sorin

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day. hello see brother what's going on man. good to see you man thank you very much. for that uh extraordinary piece of uh. athletic equipment you brought to the. gym absolutely is there photo of that so. we could show people what it looks like. uh yeah it should be on the website uh. xfactor and what is it called uh it's. called the xor it's called the what is.

the website sx.com go to sx.com check. out the xfactor so I it's actually pull. it up Jamie pull it up Jamie Isn't it. nice to say that man I'm tell you it's a. it's big so this is the machine yeah. it's actually Jud who was here a minute. ago yeah is a a brilliant machine man. the idea that you could push and pull. rotational rotational power machine it. really is a a genius idea man and uh for. things like striking sports that's huge.

like the ability to push and pull at the. same time while stabilizing your core I. mean that is undoubtedly going to help. people like it's you're you're. definitely going to be able to deliver. more power in strikes right because you. you take the ground force and then be. able to put it through obviously what. the core ex that's all three planes of. motion all obviously go through your. core and then puts it into your either. your feet or your uh your arms it's just. so unusual that you can do something. like that I mean I guess you kind of can.

do something like that with cables with. a cable machine but that seems better. yeah because you have a little bit of a. balance component as well but but you're. right like you're blocking let's say. you're a right hand you're blocking on. that left leg you're stabilizing out the. right hamstring and hip but yeah. especially when you get that little. extra extension I call it the riblets. right there your obliques it just locks. everything in so I'm interested to see. what you come up with It's pretty dope. and you were telling me that this was. originally uh like you you came up with. this idea from an older machine that's.

not around yeah yeah so we've we you. know I've been in this industry a long. time and as well as you have but it's. kind of taken a remastered Series where. we're taking all like the cool stuff. that was could have been our designs but. it could have been just old designs or. just like kind of lost to the ages uhhuh. and like hey that was a cool piece but. it sucked because you had to load it. weird or it was like maybe wasn't as. safe as it could have been and so it's. like let's let's break the whole thing. apart figure out what was good about it. and then that was like the eighth. iteration we just kept playing with it.

and then it was like when you realize. the double AIS is what made the user. experience cool then it was like okay. this is badass and you know I sent that. video to you and and then uh couple. colleges have already bought them and. then uh Ryan krower the world champion. and record holder in the shot put was. like yeah like this is all rotational. power how do we turn that on yeah it's. it's so cool today because there's so. much social media and there's so much. there so many videos and YouTube videos.

of people using equipment like 15 20. years ago you had to go to a gym and go. oh what is that oh that's cool where'. you get that how's that work the big guy. in the gym you had to like hey what's. the deal yeah I mean you and I grew up. in the same era where we're going to. gyms all the time and there's a bunch of. quacks telling you to do stuff always. yeah and there's a bro scientists toal. bro scientists yeah and then and then. you just like hey if that guy's really. good at something you know back in the. day I would after I'd compete probably. much like you.

after I compete I would get whoever was. better than me and I would offer to take. him out to dinner and I would just go. hey like I'd feed them beers until they. basically told me what how they beat. me just like well how much are you. cleaning or what are you doing then I. would pick up some little idiosyncrasy. of training they're like oh we would do. this contrast and I'm like what's that. and I would just keep digging and. digging and digging I'd go back and. figure it out well I remember when I was. competing they would tell you to not. lift weights which is so hilarious you.

don't get musle they used to say that. they used to say it will slow you down. and you'll become tight yeah and I. remember thinking like why don't you. just stretch if you're tight yeah so. more horsepower makes the car slower it. didn't make any sense to me it's like. they thought that the only exercise you. should do is martial arts itself just. hit the bag right you know train now. when do you when do you think that well. you got you know uh Bruce Lee would do I. mean he did some exercise isric yeah and.

he had some lifting but it was always. pretty light but what would you say was. the when that changed I think it was. Evander. Holyfield I think it was Macky shilstone. trained Evander Holyfield when he went. up to heavyweight and I I remember. myself at the time so this was in the. 90s I remember thinking what is he doing. he's lifting weights he's gonna [ __ ]. himself up don't doesn't he know that. all these coaches have already figured. it out and then all a sudden nander got.

all these traps and shoulders trapped. out he got jacked and he became a. legitimate heavyweight also pretty sure. there were some Mexican supplements. involved yeah he might have gone across. the border time I mean I I'm not I think. it's a strong the90s are a good time I. think it's a strong possibility that. there was some help because also like. you never heard of anybody testing. positive for steroids back then no and I. know for a fact that some of those guys. were on steroids.

I would not disagree I know people who. know people and I know we're all the. same I would [ __ ] put it all on black. yeah well CU up until 91 steroids. weren't even illegal as a controlled. substance is that do you know who caused. it to be illegal Joe Biden no [ __ ] yep. that [ __ ] it was all. him yeah you know Derek from more plates. more dates was telling us about it the. other day I'm like that [ __ ] he. did it that should be a a reason why.

well I guess the idea is that people. could abuse it right here's the deal. folks you can ab abuse almost everything. sure this is my argument against online. gambling you know there's a lot of. people that think online gambling should. be banned because so many people are. losing money on online gambling shut the. [ __ ] up do you know how easy it is to. not online gamble it's so easy you know. how easy it is I've never online gambled. it makes two of us that's how easy it is. to not online gamble I probably forget. my password.

like I'm not discounting the fact that. gambling is addictive I personally know. gambling addicts one of my best friends. Dana White is a [ __ ] gambling addict. he happens to be insanely wealthy so he. can get away with it but that helps I. I've I grew up in pool halls I know. gambling addicts I get it I'm not one. yeah so it's possible to like [ __ ]. have some self-control and discipline. and willpower the weird thing I've never. done crack either crazy.

you know crack is everywhere and it's a. scourge of humanity I've never done. crack you know it's really weird I'm so. I've never even seen crack I've seen it. yeah I I I saw cocaine once in my entire. life which is wild based on that is. pretty wild I know a lot of people in. this like yeah like did they just think. I would just say no to that because I. grew up in the ' 80s just say no. generation but I haven't seen I didn't. think it was like a real thing since I. was in high school I've never I really. yeah yeah yeah which is kind of crazy. cuz I know so many people who do Coke. yeah um but I was at a party in high.

school the last time I saw someone doing. coke no way yeah yeah in your world yeah. my world yeah why don't I don't do. anything like that I don't ever [ __ ]. around I've never done Coke I've never. even thought about doing it neither yeah. never had to desire cuz I I was around. people that were abusing it when I was. in high school so I was like okay do you. think that's because you're such like a. strong personality and like kind of role. model that people are like hey Joe's not. into that like keep it away from him um. you think they're like respectful of. that and just kind of know the deal they.

just know I don't want it yeah I think. I'm just not interested in anything that. gives me more confidence I'm not. interested in that I got plenty of that. I like humility I'm looking for humility. I don't like confidence boosters I don't. like anything that gives you like a a. ridiculous sense of like your abilities. like I'm not I'd rather be humble I'm. not interested in I mean delusion is a. is a strong is a strong suit if you. sometimes yeah no and it can get you. bound up too definitely yeah I think it.

gets you pretty far and then your. [ __ ] Wheels come off you're it's like. when you're skateboarding when you're a. kid and you have you seen a guy at a. motorcycle and you see when they do that. you're like no this episode is brought. to you by the farmer's dog dogs are. amazing they're loyal they're lovable. like just having Marshall around can. make my day 10 times better and I'm sure. you love your dog just as much and you. want to do your best to help them live. longer healthier happier lives and a. healthy life for your dog starts with.

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to thefarmersdog.com Rogan tap the. banner or visit this episode's page to. learn more offer applicable for new. customers only it's like you had Josh. Roland on it the other day that was like. what he did in Goonies remember he had. the little bike oh that's right he were. he was talking about the motorcycle and. all I could think about is my head as. him flying off the cliff in Goonies oh. that's hilarious I forgot he was in. Goonies yeah I should have brought that. up we could have hold we should have had. I wanted to bring it up so bad I was on. the plan my tongue the whole time I was.

I was riding a plane I was like all I. can see is that cat in sweatpants with. his shorts on top of his sweatpants. riding a tricycle or whatever down this. hill cuz he's one of the rare guys that. was like a child actor that turned out. really awesome yeah that's a that's a. that's a small club that's a [ __ ]. super small Club yeah cuz everybody that. I know and I know a few people. personally that were famous as a young. person they're out of their [ __ ] mind. they're just they're they're like you. know what I say it's like look at him. hey I have a good memory look at me how.

old was he back then uh he's probably 17. or 18 that's so crazy well he's two. years younger than me 85 uh in 85 I was. 18 so he's probably like were the 80s. not so awesome 80s were pretty cool. except everybody's worried that Russia. was going to blow us up the true story. true story yeah I remember 85 I believe. it was 85 going to uh I know obviously. we're both into archery so 85 Rambo. First Blood Part Two came out pops took.

me to the movie theater he and I saw it. and we went straight from there to the. archery shop I got my first bow that day. really I still have it wow yeah it's. awesome I still have some of the same. arrows no [ __ ] yeah I I I strangely. don't lose things but yeah I remember in. the backyard shooting cuz like he kind. of Hal taught me and then I was in the. backyard zinging arrows and thinking. like if I had explosive tips like I. badass with this I went to uh lenai and. uh you know they have uh the pineapple. Brothers has archery and I brought my.

whole family and then um they also have. this area where you can go and you can. like shoot ski and you drive like uh. four four-wheelers up in the mountains. and then they had like traditional. archery like bows and arrows and I was. like oh let me try this I don't know how. to [ __ ] aim I'm terrible at it I was. like I'm a good Archer I should be good. at this I could barely hit the [ __ ]. Target from 20 yards away it's like the. science and the art two different things. they're toally totally different yeah.

I've always said like the guys that are. traditional Hunters you know TRD guys. they're either weirdos or they're. absolute Killers right it's like Aaron. Snider type dudes who are so good at. compound archery they get tired of it. yeah or they're weird guys that smell. like sausage and live in your mom's. basement and they're like you're like I. yeah I know you do that but you probably. go to like renars and stuff too so I'm. not sure what's the deal with well at. Archery Country uh you know the local. archery shop here in town whenever I get. a new bow or I get a new sight and I.

have to sight it in we go to their they. have an indoor range and a lot of times. in the indoor range there's these dorks. sorry folks dorks with recurves and. they're [ __ ] they're at 20 yards. they're spread it's like my arm length. they barely hitting the target like wild. don't do that this is stupid you don't. you don't shoot like a like a cardinal. direction I'm shooting East today like. well I when they get good like I've seen.

Schnider like groups at 40 that are like. the size of a silver dollar but most. people struggle pretty hardcore but they. say also that if you do want to hunt. with it you have to practice every day. because it's almost like throwing a ball. like you know if you're throwing a ball. you know how much the ball weighs cuz. you thrown it a bunch of times and you. have like this muscle memory that if I. throw that hard at 20 yards I'm going to. hit that thing yeah it's like a. quarterback like quarterbacks I know a. couple of my buddies college.

quarterbacks they're all good TR archers. cuz they kind of like have that hand eye. spatial they know the curve yeah but you. got to be on that my buddy got into it. Brandon Lily uh powerlifter he got into. it and he all he hunted with for a. couple years was TRD and that that cat. went to like Argentina and Africa just. nuts in a sack with he's like no I'm. going to Trad boat I'm. like okay man I'm always like do you. hate accuracy no he he got it done but. holy cow like I know but there's.

something about dialing it into like 47. yard drawing back and centering your pin. and just watching that shot break and. watch that Arrow go. exactly where you want it to go and Swap. and hit those ribs just the dopamine. button of all time oh it's the greatest. it is it does can you see the AR does it. slow down when you shoot at animals like. it does for me it looks like there's no. way this arrow is ever going to get to. it's like everything in my brain it's.

like uh that book The Rise of Superman. when you go in a flow State and like. everything speeds up in your brain so. actually the p uh p uh what be the. perception all all lengthens out they. say your brain actually starts firing. three times faster the little pictures. so that's why the it slows down this. morning I watched that Arrow just right. hand to turn I'm like that that deer's. going to move and it was only 27 yards. but I'm watching it. but when I'm shooting targets I'm just.

like n whatever I don't seem to think. that no really no I always think it. takes forever to get to the animal. no um I'm trying to think of when do. things slow down for me no Jiu-Jitsu no. Jiu-Jitsu just when you're really in a a. good State it's just AO almost like. you're not thinking it's like all of a. sudden you have an armar it's like so it. is a flow State yeah it's a complete. Flow State but it's a flow State that's.

established after you know thousands of. hours of drilling and that's the most. important thing in Jiu-Jitsu really is. drilling everybody loves to roll cuz. it's so fun you know cuz it's like. you're playing a video game you're like. trying to kill each other but the really. important thing is Drilling and drilling. with like a certain amount of rigor like. a certain amount of speed and intensity. you know you're not trying to hurt each. other but you're drilling with like. intention so that your body is.

completely accustomed to these movements. like your your body recognizes these. movements and like you slap that elbow. grab that armpit get that arm drag and. you get the choke it's almost like it. happens before you even know it's. happening because your brain is so just. it's just wired in there your your your. your whole nervous system knows exactly. do it's like a cast gaining effect like.

an if then kind of deal now is that. super slow Drilling and then you just go. to speed no no I think the correct way. to drill is you drill with a little. resistance from your partner like you. don't want to put your partner to go. limp on you sure but just a slight. amount of like you have have good. partners a slight amount of resistance. but then go through those motions with. like a little bit of speed but not not. like full blast sure but the whole idea. is just get those numbers in Bam Bam Bam.

Eddie Bravo has the best uh uh. explanation for this he says you know. when you tie your shoe you don't think. about tying your shoe you just go and. your shoe just ties yep right cuz your. you tie your shoes every [ __ ] day you. know exactly how to tie your shoes once. you learn how to tie your shoes just. Bing he goes that's what a Jiu-Jitsu. move is that's Terri it's like it just. gets in there and you don't sometimes. you don't know what's happening until. it's happened like all a sudden you have. a triangle like whoa like sh that was. helpful yeah it's just it's just you've.

done it so many times that when someone. overextends or when someone gives up. their neck or it just cinches up it's. just one of those things where your. whole nervous system is just. pre-programmed to these very specific. movements yeah so you've taking all. these little Clos skills which are. replicatable and then put them in open. format where like the if then scenario. like the flow chart just go go go go go. no go and the best guys are the guys. that drill con stantly and then also.

study and take notes like like Gordon. Ryan that's his belt up there that's. Gordon trains 365 days a year. 365 days a year and he doesn't take any. days off he doesn't and he trains all. [ __ ] day long so it's if you want to. beat him good luck because you have to. catch those numbers you have to buy past. those numbers somehow it's not like he's. not talented it's not he's not. intelligent it's not he's not physically. strong so he's got got all those. attributes already and then you have.

this insane work ethic along with. dedication to technique yes and you'd. have years or decades to catch up and. you just can't and so there's too many. guys in jiujitsu that were just like big. muscle heads that would just like muscle. a move and just give a lot of Grunt and. you're never going to beat a technique. guy who's just as strong as you if that. uses less percentage of their power and. everything to get the same job done also. knows exactly where to be like you you.

might not know exactly where to be cuz. you've gotten away with a lot of stuff. because you're big you know because. you're big and you're strong and youve. push through stuff like like big guys on. their back like there's a lot of big. guys they get on their back and they. become Turtles they they don't know what. to do because they they never get put on. their back cuz if they're training if. you're a guy who's 250 lbs and you're a. normal Jiu-Jitsu jym what are the odds. of other 250lb guy there most guys are. 190. maybe there's a 210 right there's not a.

lot of really big3 250 ain't happen it's. rare it's rare so you usually can push. these guys on their back and that's. easier to do so you probably do that. more often and you like smashing people. so you smash all these people but the. problem is then you never develop a. bottom game you never develop a guard. you never develop ability to get out. from under a big guy and do it. technically you know get that underhook. like you know work for a deep half like. figure out a way to get back up to to. your feet you you're just always used to.

like overpowering people and then when. someone's bigger than you you're [ __ ]. way you're [ __ ] so were you always. strong like well I was always strong but. I didn't really start lifting weights. until I got into Jiu-Jitsu okay I mean I. always lifted a little bit of weights I. always worked out a little bit but I was. more into kickboxing than anything but. when I started doing Jiu-Jitsu I was. like oh being strong was like a big. Advantage it's it's a huge Advantage. yeah which is interesting because I was. watching this video where these guys. were talking about this these wrestlers. and they were saying that wrestling has.

always acknowledged that power is really. important but for some reason jiujitsu. they would like to pretend that it's not. important that that technique is. everything was it cultural from where it. was like with the Gracies and and like I. think technique is more important right. because if a guy doesn't have technique. and he has strength and you have. technique you can beat him but you can't. discount really effing strong right but. you also can't discount a guy who's. really [ __ ] strong with technique and.

they're not mutually exclusive no like a. lot of guys who are really [ __ ]. strong also know how to Grapple and. that's a giant problem now is there like. in the throws world we always talk about. like technique speed is everything. explain to people what you're talking. about like yeah so I'm I'm one of those. nerdy guys that picked the sport that's. like the least paying sport of all time. so I was a hammer thrower so it's like a. shot put steel ball 16lb steel ball on a. 1 M you know 3ft long wire so what you. see on the Olympics they spin around. really really fast and yell and scream.

and always make like the highlight reels. of guys that SC where did that come from. was that a weapon at one point in time. yeah so they actually in Scotland they. they would use it was a hammer they. would literally have like for Garian. society and they have a a cylindrical. head on it so they could use it every. side and so that would that became a a. way to train for battle because they. weren't allowed the Scottish weren't. allowed to have weapons oh yeah so they. would start throwing stones after the. braveart days yeah during those days so. they weren't supposed to have weapons so.

they're like F this we're just going to. take all the stuff we we have and stay. strong Stay Ready um and then actually. their their Stone was called the Clack. nart which meant uh Stone of strength. what a great name wonderful name that's. a viking name if I ever heard one cln. tell me how badass this is so like each. family like the Rogan family like you're. the patriarch right you'd have your. clack nart up on the mantle or whatever. it is so at your family outings whatever. outings those may be all the men much. like in Braveheart they would go and.

throw it the F the guy who throws the. Clack nart the Family Stone the furthest. is kind of like the dude like he's like. all right all right you now my son has. surpassed me he's shown he's a man now. right here's the wildest part this this. gives me chills so they would if they. went off to battle they would take their. clack Nar their Stone and on the way out. of town they would all put it in a pile. and they called this called a k or k so. they would put it in a pile so if they. did not return to battle they had placed. their own Monument to their town of. their sacrifice whoa so could you.

imagine so when you go past these old. towns and there's a pile you're like a. lot of guys didn't come home and those. piles are still there when I was in. Scotland they did say a lot of them were. still there I was competing when I did. Highland Games Scottish Highland Games. and it's wild so like you think about. you're like man you're literally kind of. placing your family's Stone of like I'm. going off and if I don't show up like. dude I was in Scotland last year and. there was what part of Scotland were you. in God I wish I could.

remember I'm not exact up in the. highlands like all the Ral stff or. another I went with some friends and. they they took us to this place that my. friend owns a property out there natur. and um when we went there there was a. stone circle that is way older than than. Stonehenge no way yeah and it's just. sitting there a lot of stuff in. Scotland's just sitting there it's just. sitting there in front of this dude's. house and you go and stand on it I was. like this is crazy and it's got like a.

little Monument on it but no one's. stopping you from like walking around on. it and they're not big Stones they're. like small stones but this Stone start. they're like I'm like who made this I. was asking the guy that we were with he. pretty knowledgeable and he's like no. one knows wow it's just left laying. around yeah so like Scotland there you. go is that it no that's not it but it's. kind of like that it wasn't nearly as. high they were smaller standing stones. and it was uh and there's a bunch of. them like laying around like there's a. guide Stone on the ground like how old. is that like that's probably like.

thousands of years old wow but nobody. knows like they don't know who made the. stone who put it there it's just a guide. Stone like so if you were on a trail. through the Scottish Highlands you would. find these rocks we're on the right. place Lord and this is [ __ ] Stone. that's been there for 3,000 years or. whatever like they don't even know how. old it is and it's just sitting there is. so cool though but it's the crazy thing. was like across the street from this. guy's house so he's got like this normal. house and there's a little Street then. across the street from his house there's. this Stone Circle that's like who knows.

how [ __ ] old that. one um nope it's not that either yeah. they had like the other stones of. strength there the in them that are. older than Stonehenge in Scotland CU all. three of these I pulled up God damn. maybe just really high maybe you're in. actually England oh I was totally sober. look look at that image right there how. weird is that one cool the Ring of Brer. how do you say that BR they some sweet. names over there too Broger the ring a. Brer like what did they do in that ring.

how many goats died in that ringot of. fights how many [ __ ] people got. sacrificed in that ring I mean thousands. and thousands of years ago so cool there. the stones over there like they a lot of. people go over a lot of strong men. they'll do like the stone tour so. they'll lift all the they'll lift the. Denny stones and the Inver Stone and the. Inver Stone I lift that that was in a. old lady's Garden right there's like a. stone yeah like a 265lb like big egg. Stone and like just laying around it. it's literally in this lady's Garden.

it's called the inverstone and people go. there people go there and ma'am can I go. lift your rocks 100% what happens really. yeah we were over there competing uh the. US team we were over there and like all. the Highland game guys were like let's. go check this out we all lifted it and. she invited us in for tea she's like. well we'll come and uh come and sign the. book and you look in the book it's like. Bill casm was here so and so was here. you're like oh my gosh like the greatest. strongman in the world had come as a. pilgrimage to lift this Stone and then. they signed the book and you're like so. weird this is awesome. and then across the street there it is.

yeah there yeah and then how do you say. that word we call it the Inver Stone. Inver Inver called. Stone yeah it seems like it's almost. been like honed well that doesn't it. seem like it was polished to that size. there you go that one's outside oh that. one actually has numbers on yeah that's. the one I lifted do it says 6 265 lbs is. that what it says yep and uh so we. lifted it and then actually so what. happened after back in the 80s when. kasmire was coming on the scene you know. Bill kasmire obviously World's Strongest.

Man kind of started the stage he. allegedly picked it up you know was the. man thing if you could pick up he picked. it up and carried it across the street. and bellied it up to the bar and laid it. on the bar and had a beer I would be mad. if that was my bar he CH the crap out it. did I was there I was like d That's. where Bill chipped at this is badass. historian I like that stuff right so we. traveled all around lift all the stones. it was cool but anyway a thrower is a PE. person who decides to do a sport that. doesn't pay a lot no I'm just kidding. but it's a shot put discus Hammer. Javelin it was all those original.

Olympic sports that were all weapons and. so I that would be a good sport if. you're a trans woman to get into oh you. would oh you would dominate oh if I. regular chicks wouldn't have a chance oh. I at 48 years old I could still throw. the living crap out of a woman's. Implement if I wanted. to it would be it would been a great. move um but yeah I was a part of the. track and field I got into it in college. kind of a weird Forest Gump like story. and it changed the course of my life. have you done LIF run shoot yet with Cam.

I haven't done it with Cam uh no I've we. played around and done some stuff like. that at my farm uh you know during you. should do his his podcast the LIF run. shoot show great it makes you carry a. rock up the [ __ ] Mountain I went up. Pisa with him I haven't carried the Rock. and uh but I'm sure you've done pis the. cam Rock that's ins I haven't done Pisa. I'm not doing that [ __ ] out of here that. was rough yeah that was rough I started. running I'm not a big cardio guy I'm not. interested in going anywhere where that. guy's running dude he is. he is as advertised as a badass like oh.

he's a complete psychopath legit he's. one of my best friends he's a complete. psychopath we did we're I we all got. running and then he kind of left me and. then like he got to the top and then did. his dance and then he came back down and. like hey man and it was it was very. remarkable like it he goes all right why. do I do this all the time he goes if we. crested this corner right now and you. saw the biggest bull of your life at 70. yards could you make the shot I'm like. bro I'm looking out of my ear hole right. now like I'm screwed because that's why.

I do this every day I'm like I'm. tracking he's also addicted to exercise. he's addicted to cardio yeah think not. so much a state of mind that a lot of. those distance Runners get in that they. get really really addicted to and. there's a runner's high like the runners. you experienced that oh yeah for sure. yeah long cardio sessions yeah I never. have I've tried and then I just either. get bored or mad at Cardio then I go and. lift weights and throw things you've got. like that power strength throwing. background you know it's like doesn't.

really benefit you to be really into. cardio it actually probably would. diminish some of your strength like. heavily yeah Greg glasman back in ' 07. when I was throwing Highland Games he. was like you you got to do cardio or do. CrossFit and I was like why and he was. like no it'll help your throwing I go oh. the CrossFit guy that doesn't look like. it works out at all that's the one yeah. I'm not taking advice from you buddy. well I was sitting there I was like I'm. 265 pounds he's like you should do. CrossFit and I'm like I'm trying to be. the best thrower in the world and that.

has nothing to do with any of this other. stuff yeah I have a I have a golden rule. when it comes to taking advice I don't. take advice from anybody who looks like. [ __ ] that's sound that's Sound. Advice if you look like [ __ ] I'm not. taking advice I know he had like some. physical problems right something's. wrong with him or something but the. bottom line is unknown and unknowable. was not my sport my sport was extremely. known and extremely knowable I know the. Olympic trials are on this day and I. need to show up and go really far and. also if you want to be a powerlifter or. if you want to do some just completely.

power focused exercise correct it does. not benefit you to spend time getting in. like extreme cardiovascular shape like. you do need to do what the kind of. running that cam does yeah and it's not. even not beneficial it's detrimental. right I mean we would joke like why run. when you could walk why walk when you. could sit down and why sit down when you. could lay down like as throwers that was. what we would do and we would lay down. every chance and eat every chance you. get and we were like I'm going to stand. up and do something really hard and fast. for 3 seconds and then I'm going to go.

rest for a while yeah call me when I'm. back up yeah I mean there's different. different things have different. requirements but if you want to be a. Mountain elk Hunter what he does is very. beneficial I just can't run my I have a. bad left knee that's been really. bothered me the last few years and I. just Twisted it again this uh September. yeah you're saying your sciatica was a. little tweaked that was another problem. that was from overuse of no it's just. being stupid that's overuse of uh.

archery so I was yeah because you know I. have two bows I have a bow that's 84. pounds and a bow that's 90 lbs so I'm. pulling these 90 lb bows 100 times a day. are you sure that many times a day oh. yeah good for you oh yeah oh you have to. it for that moment when like a [ __ ]. giant bull walks in between the trees. and you have a 70 yard shot you have to. 100% be confident you can make that shot. so I'm shooting at 84 yard over and over.

and over and over and I'm obsessive but. the problem was I developed like. tendonitis in my lower back so it's. overuse from the stabilizing from like. holding yourself so it's the pulling I'm. sure that's it but it's also holding it. right there in that position and it's. all in my right lower back but uh it's. much much better now I started doing. this thing called new fit okay talked. about it the other day with Derek um.

where they're doing electrical muscular. stimulation while you go through. exercises it's really helpful really. yeah it's been three weeks like a. microcurrent or more like a it juices. you up like it's all the all the muscles. contract like stem kind of thing yeah. but it's very strong so this is and you. can crank up the intensity so um this is. some of the [ __ ] like you saw Mike T. Mike Tyson when he was training for Jake. Paul he was doing that like what I think. it's really good for I don't I don't. know if it's good for a lot of these. things but it's really good for.

rehabilitation sure for rehabilitation I. think there's tremendous benefits to it. and I bet there's some benefits for. athletes for working on specific things. and doing it while you're getting Juiced. up but man for for me it's been it's. helped me quite a bit pretty quickly too. like three weeks on that specific spot. or they they firing something else. firing a lot of different parts of your. back so it's like both sides of my back. my obliques my core and just going. through a bunch of rotational exercises.

and a bunch of different things strength. and lower back and just you know you're. getting a lot of blood flow through. there and stretching it and it's it just. was I was getting pain and I was like. shut up [ __ ] and I would just ignore. the pain and then it just got bad yeah. it got bad to the point where my hips. were getting kind of numb and when I was. hiking up hills like in October when I. was hunting in October it was bothering. me a lot I was like okay I've got to. really do something about this yeah cuz. you could be you know talk yourself in. or out of something really hard but it. if it's something that's just going to.

be chronic you're like well I'm scre. chronic but it's a lot better now it's a. lot better now and it's only been three. weeks oh that's great yeah my knee is. still [ __ ] but not totally it's mostly. soft tissue it just I twisted it I. twisted it Crossing um uh like slippery. ground in uh in September and uh I've. had a lot of problems with it I've had. uh two knee surgeries I had my ACL. reconstructed. I had um a meniscus piece removed and.

then when I was skiing the last time I. ski last and final time I ever ski uh. this lady didn't know how to ski and she. like slid into the trail and I had to. try to not wipe out not not hit her. rather and I wiped out and I got What's. called the insufficiency fracture H so. it's a the bone fractured at the top of. my shin my fibula or my tibia rather um. right where the cartilage is and so yeah. that created quite a bit of pain and.

then I twisted it again one time when I. was about to get on. stage um it's hard when to play at stubs. I was going to Stubs which is like this. outside uh concert venue and I was. looking at my phone to turn my voice. recorder on so I could like record and. as I was doing that I twisted my knee on. this concrete step just yank the [ __ ]. out of it to the point where my leg was. shaking where I was on stage cuz I was. in pain it looked like I was super. nervous but it was really just. pain cuz I think at this point you get. super nervous on stage when you're. talking right no once I'm up there I'm.

not nervous at all do you still get. nervous beforehand I get excited you. know I think anything you do that you. really care about you should get excited. yeah I used to call it my national leg. when I would go to uh national. championships in the hammer all year I'd. be fine and when I would wind the hammer. on the first one when I toot the hammer. back my right leg would bounce and I'm. like ah there it is it was one throw a. year and it was like here we go we're. back they had adrenaline oh it was. adrenaline cuz well you're in your. physically you're peing for it you're. like this is the day I have to compete.

you you remember how it was but you're. like this is the day and like everything. else is kind of work and then you're. like I'm cashing out today I get to cash. out today like I get to like and then. it's like oh that's the best yeah the. best doing exciting things is really fun. and it's so important for you to grow as. a human do something that scares the. [ __ ] out of you do something that. excites you do something that's. difficult yes yeah yeah and it's almost. I don't know sometimes it's good when. it's a more Dynamic where you don't know.

when it's going to happen but but. looking forward to something is pretty. badass too cuz then you could start. focusing training and focusing efforts. and then going through like almost. stages of guilt but stages of excitement. and you're like okay am I excited no I. got this one go back and forth yeah. let's go it's live yeah that's what it. is with everything I mean I think it's. the these processes of like recognizing. there's a goal working towards it. solving problems working hard pushing. yourself through discipline that's how. you grow and it's like that that's how. everything grows right this is how your.

mind grows this is how your body grows. this is how your life grows like you. have to do stuff that's hard and then. you get better at doing stuff that's. hard and that's how you get better yeah. and then you level up and in this next. Wilderness you're like all right well. what's the next thing when that alarm. clock goes off it's so hard to know that. you know all these things but you're the. the force of the bed the gravity of that. warm bed oh it's cold in the room oh. especially like shout out to people who. live in like Alaska they have to get out.

of bed dude [ __ ] I'm sure you've done. some some hunts where you know you're in. a tent or something like and then you're. like I know I really want to get out. there but oh my this you're like my. boots are frozen and like ah maybe that. bull will just kind of walk more this. way first H I ever did was a Steve reell. in Montana oh yeah I remember seeing. that it was 9 deg 9° in the morning. we're just like Jesus Christ this is so. cold that was the The Hunt that started. it all for you wasn't it yes little.

forky kind of buck from what I no okay. that's the buck oh no way yeah that's. the first buck I ever shot that's. awesome that's him yeah the the uh the. buck that launched a thousand hunting. careers well it was uh life-changing. experience but you know one of those. things where you know you realize like. wow where would we be without houses and. it was only by the way it was only I. think October it was October of 2012 I'm.

pretty sure it was October and it was. already 9 degrees in Montana like what. what was it like in February for these. poor [ __ ] what's January like in the. morning and you're in a tent [ __ ] well. it's like Josh Smith up there at MKC has. talked about like yeah everyone loves. Yellowstone y'all about to find out. February he's like everyone wants to. move here he goes stick around it's. going to get live here in about January. or February how many people got super. confused by that show and bought a house. there and they're like what is this why. is the ground solid exactly oh I love it.

he's like this is fantastic especially. someone who's never lived in the real. North before you don't know what happens. when your ground freezes the ground is a. piece of rock like so if your on it. freezes like everything freezes yeah oh. that's a that's a whole different animal. it's a different way to live that's for. sure but you know I was talking um with. uh this gentleman yesterday Rick stman. scientist uh but we were we were talking.

about the time where he was living in. Alaska and he was living in Alaska and. he lived in Southern California and then. he moved to Fairbanks where it's 39. degrees below zero and he's like what. the hell and then it's dark for like 10. hours everyone's depressed and then. vitamin D not dark for 10 hours rather. it's it's only light for 4 hours it was. light for four hours so it's dark for 20. hours yeah [ __ ] that have you you've. been to Alaska a lot I would think you. like it few times I like the people up.

there they're Hardy they're different. different kind of human yeah yeah I I. was at a battle tested they they are and. everyone wears extra tough. boots yeah you don't want to get caught. outside with some [ __ ] [ __ ] footp. flops yeah and if your boots are too. clean you get made fun of openly they're. like hey nice new extra toughs like cool. you know you're your friends with Tyler. from Archer country Tyler's always. walking around everywhere with flipflops. bro that guy hunted yesterday in shorts. yeah yeah yeah he's a different kind. kill AER in shorts if you're in Alaska.

and you have flipflops you're going to. die you're going to your feet are going. to freeze off you're going to have no. feet yeah like you need boots I was at. at a bar out there we were in Homer. Alaska and we're playing pool and. jacking around where's Homer Homer is uh. they have this big spit that comes out I. don't know it's in Alaska somewhere how. far up. there. far it's all far big man I don't know. when you see how big it is and you like. lay it over the Country Jam where's. Homer. how how much we stole from the Russians.

of course you'd have that there it is. there it is um so we were yeah God damn. Alaska's big it's so cool isn't it so we. were on that like big spit so we were on. that bay which is crazy and yeah so we. were down there and we were at a bar. goofing around and um I remember I. walked into the bathroom and I was like. I just kind of noticed I was like w. there's no mirror on the wall whatever I. was like oh that's kind of interesting. and one of the guys was like yeah. there's no mirrors in the bathrooms in. Alaska because it doesn't matter what.

you look like you better just be capable. you're going to die and I was like what. a cool place like he's just like no one. cares what you look like here is. everyone's hair is all froed out and. they're dirty and oily and greasy he's. like yeah that's that's the flex here if. you can make it that's interesting yeah. I was like oh what a cool but yeah we. were sitting in that bay looking across. the bay uh with a pair of spots and and. looking at tracks and seeing animals. across the bay like 19 miles away it was. crazy on that white snow it was wild I. never thought you could see that far of.

a spotting scope no kid how much. magnification the SP oh wow yeah some. monsters but still it was like yeah big. Sor that you could see you know all of. Elon stuff up in space with probably. imagine those poor fools that had to. hunt with traditional bows no binos no. spotting Scopes dude anything no wind. Checker no R finder no apps I have apps. I have everything yeah I have a rang. finder that syncs up with my app of. course you do but I don't I haven't even.

set it up yet but do you nerd out on all. that stuff like I do I do see here's a. problem uh I have a loop hold. Rangefinder I really like Loop holds. full draw yep the reason why I like it. is because it'll show you the Arc of. your arrow this is how nerdy it is folks. so my arrows go. 294 feet per second okay how heavy. they're these are 475 475 grains. and you calculate all this stuff you put.

all this stuff into the rangefinder and. the rangefinder knows exactly how heavy. your arrow is exactly what the peak of. it's going to be as it comes off your. bow how fast it's going and it gives you. a line so that line so if I'm shooting. through a gap in some trees and I. actually did this a couple years ago I. actually did it when I had a Garmin. rangef Finder right so the Garmin is a. rang finding site which is pretty badass. I've always want to play with it kept. [ __ ] up though and apparently they're. getting better but they they [ __ ] me a.

couple times and it would [ __ ] me on my. range like I would i' be at full draw on. my range and I know it's 84 yards and I. press the button and I'm not getting a. range and I press the button again I'm. not so you would press the button and it. give you a red dot right when it works. it's the greatest thing of all time cuz. it's like a pistol like you see that red. dot that clear lens and then that dot. it's the best site picture of all time. of all time everything else like the. post or the side post they get a little.

in the way just a touch not not bad I. can deal with it you know but that red. dot was [ __ ] amazing so uh I shot. this I'll show you the bulll afterwards. I shot this big bull and he was coming. through this Gap and I wasn't sure if. the arrow was going to make it there so. I pulled out the second Rangefinder and. I clicked on that and I got the height. of the arrow I knew I could make it and. then I used the rang finding site so a. man that knows his tools the opposite of. these guys with their traditional bow Bo.

like I'm I'm you know I'm using. technology sure so the new loophole. though the problem is it doesn't have. this this height thing in it but the new. one when you range an animal with onx. hunt so you arrange the animal and it. Mark puts a pin down where that animal. is yep I actually had. the I was one of the test subjects for. that they sent me yeah probably two. years ago I was hunting at Deseret with. it giving them feedback we found mu deer. the day before and I ranged him marked.

him and we went back the next day and I. shot him at 14 yards that's crazy it was. awesome that's crazy because you can go. back to the actual spot where he was y. yeah it threw it off to my phone and uh. it like the I can't remember what it's. called it's the range but it has like. the LF something 500 500 yeah something. like that see you can find it Jamie It's. pretty dope it's super cool I love lold. [ __ ] I just wish their glass was as good. as. swarovsk yeah everybody I say that about. everybody like Vortex makes awesome B.

HDX are until you put through the pick. up those NL PES and you're like [ __ ]. yeah you're like yeah it's so it's. almost like I wish I never looked. through them oh it's that's it the RX. 5000 yeah that thing is badass It's. pretty dope so it does it syncs up with. your onx hunt so you could show show you. how it works there so what's really good. about that is not just um you know you. know where you hit the you know where. the animal is so if you have to go. around somewhere and get back to him.

you'll you'll be able to get back to you. know if you're trying to get away from. the wind well the spot in stock is so. nice CU we were hunting mu deer in um. Arizona and you could same thing you're. you're circling around and your depth of. perception you you I've been 200 yards. off I feel like this is more designed. though for the rifle Hunter and this is. like even they're even showing guys like. going 2,000 yards with this thing I feel. like uh for the bow hunter they just.

need to add their maybe it'll just make. it too big but add that height of Arrow. Technology I don't know why they. wouldn't put that in there yeah cuz I. can't use it I I need that that that is. so huge for elk hunting for me it's like. gaps are everything I want to be able to. be sneaky and just make my way around a. tree just give me this give me this much. and if it's and if I know that the arrow. is never going to hit the top or the. bottom I'm golden and I have full. confidence cuz otherwise it's a mind. [ __ ] cuz I'm sure you've had arrows hit.

branches before it sucks so hard when. you whack yeah land in Cleveland. somewhere a few years back in uh Utah. here's the one for that one I had pulled. up had a TBR was made for ballistics I. think this morning these are all for. archery yes the well the TBR is to the. right yep that that is um that one is a. similar one that was like I don't think. that's as sophisticated though and I. don't think that has the app the I think. think the RX one is the only one the app. but I have that one the full draw five I.

don't go anywhere without that it's the. [ __ ] that that is to me I have a I've. had a bunch of different ones that were. really cool like Aaron Schnider turned. me on to this Nikon a while back that. was um uh image stabilizing that was a. game changer that that's a big deal. because you could really like get it on. the animal yeah image stabilizing. Rangefinder yeah I use image stabilizing. binoculars have you used those Sig ones. I've used cams I tried that those things. I'm running 16s yeah all right because.

you could just hold them I mean I have. I've run sorrow since. 1999 and I started leaving mine at home. because I like the Sig so much and they. did the new HD so it has a better uh. glass now it's still not as clear as. Soros I mean that's just but because you. could stabilize I could run 16s and I'll. run 16s in the woods cuz I could just. peer through everything and like boom I. ran twelves in the woods this year which. is a little too much when you're when. you're not St I usually run 10 but like.

sometimes 10 by 42s yeah 10 sometimes. when you're looking at something that's. really far off you're like I don't know. if that's a good bull is that worth. chasing the the 12 make all the. difference in the world but what I do is. I grab my baseball hat I learned this. trick from Remy Warren oh that's a good. idea yeah so what you do is you Remy's a. killing son of aun he's a killing son of. a m you clip that sucker down tight so. your Hat's on tight and then do this and. I'll hold my binos right here or take my.

bow and put it here and then stack it on. top of the bow press the bow up against. your chest so it's not going to go. anywhere and then stack it on top of the. cam of the bow a lot of guys do that but. Remy taught me this one and I think this. this one's super legit just hold on your. fast to and you can get your you can. tuck your elbows in like this and you. can really keep it stable if I couldn't. do that I wouldn't use twelves but I. don't think I'm going to use TW anymore. anyway really no I think T are the way. to go maybe even eights cuz you get a. bigger field of view yeah cuz a lot of. times I'm seeing stuff through trees and.

I'm I'm sneaking around like I I like to. you know I'm a big spot and stock guy. that's I've tried a bunch of different. hunting I've tried ground blind I tree. stand hunted with dudle Y that you can. go [ __ ] yourself with that sitting in. those trees all day [ __ ] that I am way. too ADHD for that you find out if you're. crazy oh I'm crazy yeah I'm definitely. crazy I don't like it I don't like being. up there in a tree like that here's my.

question though I was just in Missouri I. went to our farm I was there six or. seven days and we. sit you know 30 minutes before to 30. minutes all day yeah you have to it's so. it's but I would think with as many. people as popping on you and all this. like it was nice cuz for me I'm like I'm. quiet I could just be yeah I enjoy I. enjoy that part where I could just. unravel and think like think through. problems but yes you go crazy and you. burn out your phone because you're like. and I'm going to search for the dumbest. things possible I'm going to buy.

socks 100% you just sitting also you you. don't realize like if it's 30° out like. 30 degrees is no big deal you could walk. around 30° but as soon as you're sitting. there dude in 30 degrees you get so. [ __ ] cold cuz you're not moving so. you're not generating any heat at all so. then you're in this stupid body warmer. suit that zips up you're likeing a big. snuggy it's a big old oven and my hands. are in here but the problem with that is. if a deer comes and you got a. [Music]. you got to make all that noise you got. to get out of it all this movement grab.

your bow so you really shouldn't do that. so you try to go with a puffy but you're. still freezing so then I start doing. Bruce Lee exercises while I'm up there. and [ __ ] one thing I realized uh I um. I was so cold I had a hard time pulling. my bow back once yeah I was going to. shoot this deer and I was up in that. stand for like four or five hours yeah. in Iowa and I go to pull that bow back. I'm like Jesus well cuz you shoot a 90. lb bow yeah but I was so cold yeah oh no. it's yeah I'll sit there and just do. like you know like I had a 95b bow for a.

while I remember when he made you that. one uh I couldn't draw it on my knees I. had to stand up you know how I found. that out cuz you could cuz I was on my. knees right behind a bush and an elk. walked behind like [ __ ] God damn it like. that's super I was in a weird spot too. only lean on my left leg too like so it. was you know it was like I was on my. knee but I was even on my left knee it. was like a [ __ ] upill you don't have a. good yeah I was like my right knee was. up like this my left knee was down there. like this is [ __ ] that bow was crazy.

shoot 540 grain arrows 305 feet per. second bro when it hits it was just. like it was itra like I remember we were. shooting at the Deseret and we were all. shooting at 100 yards just me and a. couple of these guys yeah and uh they. shot first and then I shot and the guys. go what the [ __ ] are you shooting cuz. the bow was so still rolling at that. point he goes that bow is so flat what. is that and I'm like this is a 95 lb bow. it was the dumbest thing ever I remember.

you send me he was like this thing's. Preposterous it was so dumb it also had. a really short brace height so it was. super sketchy so if you moved your hand. it was so unforgiving that if you move. your hand even slightly you were off. Target by 6 Ines oh jeez yeah really. twich driving a Little Tokyo Drifter. around all the time it was so dangerous. not dangerous really but like you just. wouldn't I would trust it you know I. killed a couple animals with it and I I. stopped trusting yeah you get to put it. on the wall and go like well then I went. to an 80 lb bow from Hoy I was like oh.

my God this is so much better it was. like 15 20% more accurate I was like. that thing is just too too sketchy I. just got that rx9 like last week oh. that's great yeah it's I'm shooting 76. but I'm 30 and a half inches I got a. pretty good stroke on it oh yeah man. yeah I need some extra horsepower at 28. and a quarter I need like I'm shooting. 520 grain at about. 282 so it's moving out that's great. that's that like um guys like Randy.

olmer he likes 265 to 280 yeah he thinks. that like that's that's the range where. the arrows are like the most accurate. there's this thing about having too much. [ __ ] whip y you know there's too much. and it's almost like get too much Flex. on the a a lot of flexing the arrows and. it's probably more subject to Wind Drift. when they're flexing like that you know. it's like to throw the javelin there was. different rated javelins and you could. be too strong for the jab and so if you.

don't pull through the tip perfectly. just like aospine right so you have a 50. 50 meter jab 60 meter jab 70 me and when. you start getting strong you could bend. a 50 meter jab like a banana it's kind. of fun actually it comes out like like. Lamar. from like what was it uh Revenge of the. Nerds oh okay but yeah that makes sense. that it would be just like arrows yep. for folks at home um say if you have a. 50 PB bow you could probably get away. with a 320 Green Arrow 330 350 so the.

higher the number the more flexible the. spine of the arrow is and the lighter. the arrow will be right so I shoot a 250. so it's like like a nice stiff all that. kinetic energy yeah if especially how. much weight you have in the front. creates that more of a flex exactly but. it's to me it's all about like I've. heard arguments before like people say. oh you don't need that much bow power. you don't shut your [ __ ] dirty little.

skinny mouth because the only reason why. you would say that is because you can't. pull that back that's the only reason. and if you think that 70 lb to you is. the same as 70 lbs to me and you don't. work out that's just dumb that doesn't. make any sense yeah it's like saying. well you don't need a 500 lb deadlift to. yeah but it's nice yeah but if you can't. squat 500 lb and you have to squat 500. lb you can't do it I can so shut the. [ __ ] up it's nice to have in your pocket. shut your dirty little skinny hole cuz.

all that is is you're you're just saying. there's virtue in being physically weak. and that's stupid that's stupid do you. need um to be able to pull back 80. pounds to kill an elk no if you can't. pull back 80 lbs and you're really. accurate with 60 lbs and you have a. cuton contact Broadhead you can be. successful but I'm going through that. whole animal yeah I'm getting a pass. through on a giant animal and you're. probably not going to yeah and I think. that's it's more important to be able to. have the most ultimately lethal setup.

possible I learned this from Cam he's my. mentor yeah he's a guy who taught me how. to bow hunt and you know his whole thing. is he shoots a 90 lb bow as well it's. like the most amount of power and you. want to make a big [ __ ] hole yes and. you want that animal to die like that. well with anything why would more. horsepower if you could handle it not be. advantageous it's stupid that's why race. cars have limits on the amount of power. you can have is more Advantage you know. Formula 1 drivers figured out a way to. get a 4,000 horsepower engine and have.

it handle they would win they would win. they like or or if you could punch 30%. harder than everyone else in UFC yeah do. it yeah literally Fran became the. heavyweight champion of the world. [ __ ] hits harder than anybody yeah. it's interesting uh my buddy Lauren. landow strength coach and I was talking. to him last week and he did a actually a. study on uh Ground Force Power into into. punch. and they did so they tested it on a like. a force plate jump and force plate and.

then they uh did a proteus machine have. you ever seen one of those they kind of. like it's like uh you kind of throw it. and push it kind of the same thing so. they tested the the power of the punch. then tested ground force and then they. did um squats but they also did like a. trap bar deadlift and then the training. was a Jammer arm like a you know Jammer. arm punch so they had the sequence of. force and he had a double digit increase. of strength through the or power through. the ground and it equated to a 12%. increase in punching power so almost.

almost percent for percent so you look. at that and say well if you're if you're. stronger you squat more or deadlift more. now as long as it doesn't take away from. the sport but that has a a very very. real effect on punching power yeah it. does the the the way it takes away from. the sport is if you're sore from lifting. weights you're not going to train as. effectively that's just a fact like or. it takes too much time away from your. teque or injury or whatever that's where. steroids come in and that's why Gordon.

Ryan can train 365 days a year he's open. about it like he's open about his use. yeah because they don't test for. steroids in Jiu-Jitsu so you know he's a. wizard so he's like a pragmatist i i i. figur that they would nope UFC though. they do right the UFC they do yeah but. you ever seen Gordon you ever seen him. shirt off oh yeah it's uh that. [ __ ] EA passing no tests give me. a one of them photos of Gordon look like. a GRE God squared away yeah I mean when. you have that and then you have a a.

genius level IQ and then on top of that. you [ __ ] outp big [ __ ] eating grit on. his face and then you have a guy who. trains 365 days a year who also works on. technique constantly that's how you have. the greatest of all time y yep but by. the way all those guys like gval the guy. was on the bottom there he's on the. juice too it's a Level Playing Field. they're all Juiced up right right it was. kind of like the uh the lifters and the. throwers of the 8S everyone had a 600lb. bench because that's what you do and. guess what you got a test now well this.

is a a great argument to this idea of. power being necessary like with. jiu-jitsu and grappling you know like if. you have technique like Gordon's and. you're built like him yeah giant. Advantage giant advantage to be super. strong always in all of life there's. [ __ ] zero advantage in being weak no. there's never a time you're like you. know what if I could just get my squat. down a bit that would really pan out for. me one thing though that is really. important this this actually really pays. off if you can train with a guy who's.

small like if you can learn jiujitsu. with a guy who's small you'll learn the. best Jiu-Jitsu why is that because they. have to use technique they have to use. leverage like you're a big [ __ ]. strong guy if you learn Jiu-Jitsu you. you could use that strength you could. squish people's necks and throw them on. the ground and grab their arms and stuff. like that but a small guy can never do. that so if you can learn Jiu-Jitsu from. like a Barrett Yoshida or H or Gracie or. Eddie Bravo or there's a few of those. Gabe Gabe Tuttle who teaches over here.

at 10th Planet small guy ju-jitsu is the. best jiujitsu because it has to be razor. sharp because they don't have the. physical strength like overpowering arm. and get you into a certain position just. from raw horsepower they have to like. sneak it in there with leverage and they. have to do everything perfectly so those. guys if you learn Jiu-Jitsu from them. you're going to learn like the most. technical jiujitsu is that like. obviously a reason why you should learn. younger when you're small and weak well.

it's always good to learn young because. first of all it becomes a natural part. of your movement like it's like as your. body matures your body's M I think it's. more important with striking than. anything it's very rare that someone. learns how to strike while they're. already physically mature and can ever. reach the level of like a Floyd. Mayweather right because that guy as he. was a child his his body his reflex is. developed striking and he's just got.

this massive Encyclopedia of information. that's available to him he knows exactly. when he sees you do this he knows that. straight left is coming and he knows all. he has to do is do this and he knows the. counter is going to be there when you go. to look for the right hand afterwards. yeah he's just got it all programmed it. swap it's all just like right in there. for you to build that up after you're 28. like h. you're going to be you're never going to. be at his level you're not you you kind.

of have to unless you're some physical. freak which do they do exist you know. yeah but they what I've understood too. is the potential for building speed. which is let's be honest speed is a big. part of power which is punching right. it's the sequence of force how do you. create Force to the ground explosion of. force not implosion into your arm or. your foot or whatever it is that ends at. 22 that the potential to develop the. potential potential for Speed ends yeah. that's why all the the weightlifters and. everyone gymnast everyone has to start.

young those firing patterns 27 and you. try you'll never you won't reach the. potential you could have genetically. because you just don't have this the. sequence the speed right it's the I know. how to do this at speed that goes whack. whack whack through here and I could. crack that whip your body just has it's. done too many other things at lower. speed and so you know where I really. noticed that uh with K and when I teach. people kicking there's certain things. that they have a really hard time doing.

fluidly mhm you know one of the force. the big ones is like anything that. requires spinning like if you look at uh. a good MMA fighter that doesn't have. like a Taekwondo background and you. teach them how to throw wheel kick. they'll never be able to throw a wheel. kick like like a real Taekwondo black. belt they there's certain guys that like. as they're young they're veloping these. spinning techniques and they just got it. wired in their whole nervous system just.

and it's so smooth and fluid that the. power is so extraordinary and you know. I've taught people that were like elite. MMA fighters and I try to teach them how. to throw things like a spinning backi. for instance and it it takes a long time. for them even like Jon Jones's one that. he landed like on Stipe that that guy's. a freak like that that guy guy is like. what we're talking about like you can. there's some guys you can teach them. things when they're in their 30s and.

they could develop it like someone who's. been doing it their whole life but. that's that's a rare exception another. rare exception I was thinking is Alex. Pereira Alex didn't really start. striking until he was like 21 years old. he didn't even start training but my. question would be what other things did. he do that that ex exagger like like. that developed that speed and power. sequence cuz like you know what he did. he worked in a tire shop really yeah so. he's like hoisting tires and hammering. tires down and setting Wheels right so.

you're learning you're learning to do. the most because if you're doing it for. a job you're going to do the most. efficient method possible to move an. object right you're also that tire up. there develop rotational strength you're. throwing hammers down I mean he's doing. this eight hours a day all day long so. like think about how many tires he's. hammered right yeah that's not a. training Francis andano when he was a. child worked in a sand mine so he's. [ __ ] digging sand all the time he. just his body's just as he's developing.

also massive physical specimen right so. he's like 66 or 65 whatever he is 265. Natural Built like a [ __ ] Greek god. like a statue and his whole body is. developing as he's a young man digging. sand and the anger you have I I can't. believe I have to dig this [ __ ] you. imag like the wheel of pain like con. like Conan he really is like a guy from. a movie in a s and then becomes the.

heavyweight champion of the world was. homeless his you ever heard his story oh. yeah so a buddy of mine Bo sandal used. to run the uh strength conditioning. direct he was a strength conditioning. director UFC and so he told me about him. years and years he's like we got this. guy and I was like really he goes no. this is going to be a dude and I like. really and he told me his whole story. about Cameron and like living in France. and the whole deal and I became like I. never even looked eyes on the guy like. this guy's he's my guy I want to like I. want to like him oh he told and he came. on the scene like his life story told on.

the podcast about making his Trek like. he just decided he has to leave Cameroon. and every's like what are you going to. do you can't go anywhere and he just. went through the [ __ ] desert yeah all. the way to Morocco and then gets an AR. raft and does it seven different times. he gets arrested gets taken into custody. they bring him into the middle of the. desert drop him off he goes right back. to Morocco walks through hits his rid. took him year and a half if he makes I. don't care how much money that guy makes. it's not enough for for just being able.

to do that like that is so so how about. he has one boxing fight he knocks down. the heavyweight champion of the world. and one of the greatest heavyweight. boxers of all time he hits him with a. left hook and drops him and almost won. like I thought he won the decision as it. was over I was like they're going to. give it to him I think he won the. decision he was battering him in the. eighth round he dropped him in the. second I'm like I think he won that's. and a lot of people thought he won yeah. and he came that close that [ __ ]. close and so is that like uh obviously. genetically super gifted right but then.

also like we're talking about like. shoveling and doing all this work when. you do that work for that long you learn. how to become efficient because you. don't want to spend extra time and. effort doing stuff so you just learn how. to kind of move stuff there's a little. bit of that and I think to. be to be really charitable I think Tyson. Fury probably didn't think that he had a. chance I think Tyson Fury probably. didn't train as hard he would have. trained if he thought the Francis was a. real threat right I think he probably.

thought I'm going to box this guy's. [ __ ] face off how could this MMA. fighter and then he gets hit with one of. them hammers. thud left H in the side of his head he's. like what the [ __ ] did this guy just hit. me with and he's on his ass as the. heavyweight champion of the world. fighting a guy with zero professional. fights that was his first ever Pro fight. his second ever Pro round and he drops. one of the greatest heavyweights. in the history of the game you I think. my here's my uh Mount Rushmore of.

heavyweight boxers Mike Tyson's number. one Mike Tyson from. 1986 to like 1990 there was not or 88. whatever it was it was a few years. before the wheels came off because he. was just going crazy and partying. fighting with syphilis and [ __ ] he was a. he was a a maniac but that guy the guy. who knocked out like Michael Spinx the. guy who knocked out Larry Holmes the guy. who won the title from Trevor berbick I. think that guy's the greatest. heavyweight fighter of all time he was a.

juggernaut man the guy who knocked out. Marvis Frasier that's the scariest. version of Tyson ever the Marvis Frasier. version but you could you were like. probably late High School like yeah so I. was like a little kid and I remember. like walking out my skateboard and. they're like did you see the Larry. Holmes fight last night I was like oh no. but I heard like 19 seconds or whatever. it was crazy all pumped about the fight. went a few rounds differently than I did. at a kid yeah well I was yeah I was. doing a little boxing myself and I was a. giant boxing fan he was a freak he was a. a very unusual thing because every other.

heavyweight was kind of slow and even if. they could hit hard they were lumbering. he was bobbing and weaving and moving. and he was a small heavyweight wasn't. even six feet tall so he's built like a. brick [ __ ] house he's got a 20in neck. he's uh 220 lbs moves like a guy who's. 150 and he's throwing lightning bolts at. your central nervous system just blang. he's hitting you to the body and [ __ ]. legs are shutting off he was a monster I. just think you can't maintain that.

forever and I think I I always when I. look at Fighters I try to look at them. like when they were when they were white. hot just burning hot at the highest. level that they could achieve what was. that like like what was that I feel like. as great as Muhammad Ali was man I just. don't see him surviving I just not the. height the height height no I just I see. like Henry Cooper dro Ali when he was. back when he was Cash's clay with a left. hook and they cheated to get him out of.

the round um custom cut his gloves so. they had to take his glove off and. replace the gloves they gave him all. this recovery time you ever seen that. Henry Cooper fight Henry Cooper was a. bad man he was this British boxer this. uh guy from England who had a nasty left. hook and he caught Cash's clay just B. perfect one in his like leg and he's. like slumps down the ropes he was. dunsville but was at the end of the. round and then Angelo Dundee I mean that. guy had been around the block he knew.

like let's cut these [ __ ] gloves see. if you can find that Jamie CU it's a. it's a CRA it's a crazy fork in the road. in history right because if they don't. cheat likely he gets. stopped likely Henry Cooper who landed. the perfect left hook hits him with a. couple more and that's it he's done he. looks done already like watch this Henry. Cooper had a nasty left foot look at. that bro look how he's down there that's. not regular down that's [ __ ] up down.

that's like real trouble but it's the. very end of the. round look at this bro but look how he. goes down that is that's dunsville so if. that's a minute earlier if he gets hit. with that yep the whole thing changes. right the whole thing changes he's not. undefeated when he fights Sunny Liston. he's not this Unstoppable. Force isn't that crazy how little. and that can happen and there are. Fighters that I have seen in the UFC.

that I go this guy could be the next. fill in the blank this guy could be the. next great Welterweight Champion the. next great lightweight champion and then. they have one fight and in one fight. something happens they get hit with a. flying knee or they get head kicked or. something happens and then their whole. path changes and you like wow if that. guy wasn't overmatched if he didn't. fight that guy so which this is the. difference between boxing and the UFC. the UFC is like when you're ready come.

to us and you're going to fight the best. wow boxing is like we're going to build. you we're going to take you and you're. going to fight a few guys that are like. real slick but they don't have power and. then you're going to fight a big guy. with a lot of power but he doesn't have. any endurance yeah and they're like they. they're like he's ready for this now you. know if you have a really good trainer. like Tyson Fury's trainer Sugar Hill. he's going to like he's analyzing your. movements he's breaking down things he's.

figuring out what to change what not to. change when to back you off a training. like you're you're a little too hot. right now let's like oh let's let's not. Peak too soon because we got two weeks. before the fight I want you to take a. day off like take a day off I'm ready to. [ __ ] eat Nails no no no no we got to. we got they know exactly and then. they're like he's ready for this level. of competition so they'll give you a guy. that'll offer you some struggle some. tests maybe he's got a big big punch and. you know you might lose the fight but.

you're most likely going to win and this. is how you find out if a guy's going to. make it you slowly move them so there's. a lot of boxers you know by the time. they're fighting for the title they're. 14-0 16-0 18 and Charles Olivera I mean. what is Charles Olivera's record let's. let's see Charles Olivera's record so. Charles Olivera when he became the. lightweight champion he had a ton of. losses in the UFC he got sto by Paul. Felder he got stopped by Cub Swanson. kotm he got uh I think I'm pretty sure.

Jim Miller knee barred him so what is. his record Jim's a free look at that 35. and 10 okay and so out of those 10 a few. of them have been recently scroll back. up to the top please so the Islam makev. he loses the title and then Arman suian. he lose a split decision I thought he. won that fight by the way um but it was. close so those are the two out of those. 10 so that means as a champion he had.

eight [ __ ] losses eight losses and. some of them brutal Knockouts because. you're in there with the lions with all. the lions and so the UFC is like who's. the baddest lion let's figure it out. like you want to be in the UFC you win a. few fights uh we're going to throw you. in or if it's you know last short notice. short notice fight let's go and then the. thing you find out too is that the level. at the UFC as great as some of these. guys look in these other organizations.

the level at the UFC that's the peak. those are the greatest fighters on the. planet there's no arguing about it and. we found out about that this past. weekend because Alexandre Pantoja Who. might be the best pound-for-pound. fighter alive he's the flyweight. Champion he fought this dude Kai asakura. from Japan who's a [ __ ] assassin. panto just ate him alive just ate him. alive and he got caught with a couple. good shots too a couple good knees to. the body and you know kaios Sakura is a.

really good fighter but the level was. just different like panoa just he. strangled him but it's just the way he. did it I mean he was [ __ ] him up on. the feet he was [ __ ] him up. everywhere he was just pushing him and. this like insane Pace you watch those. little guys fight like they can they. fight like pitbulls man like just like. wild scrambles where they're moving so. fast you're trying to call the fight and. it's like me and Daniel were talking. about during the commentary like we have. to recalibrate our brains yeah cuz you w.

go from a heavyweight fight to a. flyweight fight like whoa It's like. listen to a podcast when you turn it to. 1.5 yeah I actually had to start. listening to your podcast at regular. speed because I was I thought you talked. really fast I was just like oh Joe no. one talks that fast because I listen to. it super fast somebody sent me a clip of. uh someone some political person talking. about one of the guests on the show and. I was like what is wrong with the clip. and then I had to realize like oh they. got an unsp speed up version yeah do you. listen to stuff speed it up never never.

a buddy of mine taught me that he he. listens to books he got up to four 4X. and so he you absorbing it the same way. I think if you're kind of like a Rainman. which I'm not I'm not but I could go one. five pretty easy and I could I could. just get through it faster yeah I see. how that could help but for me um I mean. I'm not doing reading books on tape or. listening to books on tape for anything. other than my own enjoyment and. education so for me I'm enjoying it yeah.

so I like to think about the things and. I'll have more time to think about what. this person's saying if they're not. going at one and a half speed cuz if. they're going at one and a half speed. and going one concept to the next then. I'm like wait a minute I don't. understand then I have to back up yeah I. like to think about stuff so it's like. especially if I'm listening to something. esoteric or really weird yeah you know. makes sense which is a lot of the stuff. that I listen if I'm not listening to. fiction I'm probably listening to a book. on physics or something yeah I listen to. Jack Carr stuff at regular speed cuz I. really just enjoy the books oh that guy.

what is his name uh who's the guy who. does his uh yeah uh by guy's really good. yeah I can't remember he has a lot of. good um dialects and everything Jack. text me this morning he said hi he's the. man he's awesome I love that dude see we. cross Tom Hawks on the wall oh for sure. I love it yeah he's like hey D Joe I say. I love that dude he's salt of the earth. we just got him some cnbs um Ray Porter. that's yeah Ray Porter knew the cross. tomahawks on there he's the [ __ ] man.

and um the thing about his books on tape. though is you're locked into Ray Porter. forever some new person starts reading. screed like who is this guy this is. [ __ ] yeah you can't you can't have. this guy doing it the guy's amazing I'm. used to all the voices I Rafe is a. Good's got South African accent you know. who else is really good who's the guy. who does the greyman series. there's a guy who does I've you ever. listen to the gyman series I'm so. addicted Mark grainy writes them they're.

so ultraviolent they're so [ __ ] crazy. they're so crazy it's about a CIA Hitman. oh it was like a Singleton guy they send. all dude it's so like they made a movie. about is it like one of the weird ones. will give you like you think about it. all night kind of like when I would. start watching The Sopranos like my view. on the world would change Jay Snider. that guy is really good he does really. good girl voices too which is weird but. um those [ __ ] books man they are so. ultraviolent they're so crazy they're so.

crazy like you sometimes I listen to. them and I have to shut them off before. I go to bed like if I listen to them. like I like to take the sauna before I. go to bed and so if I'm listening to. like you know a book on cosmology that's. great it's interesting well go to bed. and think about space cool but if I'm. listening to some gyman before I go to. bed I'm like I got to shut this off yeah. we don't need that you know we don't. need that in the house yeah people. getting their [ __ ] eyeballs like a. giant sword swords shoved through their. eyeballs getting blown up grenades in. their mouth like hey hey yeah hey hey.

hey do you do you like scroll around I. know you're not supposed to look at your. phone before you go to bed I I always. just I I like look up ballistics my wife. is like what are you doing and I was. like H she's it's like kind well that's. good that's not social media that's good. well I do it because I actually think. about stuff and it doesn't matter I have. to look at something that doesn't matter. like if I look at like a good don't. check any. you're screwed right like and I'll tell. my wife she's like hey I got a question. for like the lights are off don't ask.

questions right now like I'll be all. night I'll be thinking of this problem I. have to solve yeah so like I'll just sit. there I'm like hey I wonder what the. ballistic coefficient of a 350 Remington. Magnum is by the way anybody with a. beard like yours I would assume they. know the ballistic coefficient of a. 3 it's like see a dude in a beard like. that he's kind of jacked I'm like that. guy knows how to shoot some things 100%. just like oh yeah so you would be. probably loads his own bullets yeah be. about a 9 in drop at 300 interesting. okay I'll keep that in mind yeah you.

probably load your own rounds yeah well. you know yeah I bet you do I get you get. on them presses pops used to be really. really into that uh thankfully I know. the guys at Nosler so they just sent me. ammo which is nice I've made the mistake. of looking at social media before I go. to bed and I get mad or I get upset or I. get sad or I find out some weird [ __ ]. that's going on in the world yeah and. when I was younger I'd read things that. people would say about me be like oh my. God like what is this [ __ ] that's not. true and you get all upset and then I. realize like wait this is just some.

person like I I wouldn't talk to them in. real life like what do I why is their. opinion more valid because it's written. down so then I stopped reading all. comments about me and oh my God it. changed everything changed everything. you do the post and ghost right yes it's. the way to go I I have friends and. they'll come to me like they'll come to. the comedy club or something and they'll. be like genuinely emotionally distraught. because people are attacking them online. I go but they're not here like right.

here your friends are here and you're. all freaked out because I know I got to. stop reading that stuff I go you got to. stop reading that stuff first of all. it's not true you're really funny you're. a great guy so it's all [ __ ] and. they don't know you right so they're. just deciding to do this and they know. that it [ __ ] with you because you talk. openly about it and so now they're going. to accentuate it they're going to yeah. they're going to keep jabbing at you. they got a rock there's a window yeah. they the they're in the cheap seats. we're whipping them in there you got to. stop doing that man and a few guys have. listened to me and a few guys haven't. and the guys have have listened to me. they all say the same thing like oh my.

God I feel so much better I'm like yeah. social media is not the problem the. problem is either engaging in the anger. and the hate or having reading people's. anger and hate towards you and having it. [ __ ] your head up like hey do you think. it's something that's like systemic that. that is literally spreading and and and. growing like the people that put that. type of trash out all the time and then. they think there's some sort of value to. that and then other people see some. value right they do get engagement right. and if you're a person that has like a.

YouTube show where all you do is [ __ ] on. people you have bad karma for sure you. for sure you're suffering yeah but you. got to deal with that the rest of your. life like dealing that poison but you. can make a living doing that like there. are guys who make a living doing that. they're all [ __ ] up I'm not saying. there's value in it but I do think you. make something out you can create a. career doing that that's part of the. problem is it's effective. right like trolls yeah like it does get. engagement but then you know you're what.

kind of Engagement are you getting look. I have people that hate me online but. not the ones who know me right that's. what's kind of important like the people. that know me either in real life or. through the podcast know I'm a nice. person right I work really hard at it. actually I try hard to be a nice person. it's not like it's a conscious effort. I'm good at it I I like doing it I like. nice people I like to be a nice person. makes me feel good so I don't engage I. don't fire back at people I don't I.

don't you know when people get mad at me. even celebrities have attacked me online. I'm like yeah how's that feel like. probably being in that world a bit more. and then now having people turn on you. probably feel. strange perfect they're just they're. just revealing who they are they're just. weak they're just weak people they're. not the type of person that if if you. did that in front of me when you were. around me we could have a. about why I feel like you're incorrect. and this assumption that you have of me.

is totally wrong and also if you're not. talking to someone in person and you're. saying something about that person like. you don't you could just kind of like. form some [ __ ] Narrative of course. the person's right there they go that's. not true that's so you're saying. something and if it was true then You'. be justified in your anger but what. you're saying is not true and you're. taking things completely out of cont. and you don't know what you're talking. about you're doing this because your. life sucks and it's the only time you do.

it always said you think Michael Jordan. is posting on YouTube is he making. comments no when he was in if YouTube. was around when Michael Jordan was the. king would he be doing that no he. doesn't have time because he's being a. winner because he's actually winning and. doing yeah 100% guarantee you Michael. Jordan reads the comments and if he did. read the comments he'd be up all night. anger you know like you saw that that. Neil uh um Neil had a bit about Michael. Jordan's documentary on his last Netflix. special was pretty funny it's like.

unless you want to be the greatest. basketball player of all time he goes. you want don't hold grudges unless you. you want to have $150 Million worth a. passive income every year because it's a. [ __ ] silhouette of you dunking unless. unless it's it's a good unless but again. those are freaks right these are the. outliers these are the people like as a. rule as a human being that's not the way. just insatiable desire to like just. Hammer that nail until it's just so bar. down in the wood you're just like I.

don't know what you're doing anymore but. yeah that's how you become the greatest. of all time you leave no question it's. just the difference between that in uh. sport versus that in fighting though is. in fighting you could I don't think you. can maintain it no like a guy like. Jordan how long was he in his prime it. was a decade right least a for a decade. he was dominating basketball wow you. can't really do that in fighting. joh Jones is the only one that's been. able to do you think it just takes so. much aggression so much Ed so much Dam.

your body the damage to your body is. huge because there's so much damage that. happens just in training I mean JN tore. his PEC off of his [ __ ] shoulder in. training yeah and that wasn't getting. hit that was wrestling that was yeah and. then there's the the impacts that you. get and then there's the you know the. back stuff you know you get thrown weird. you land on your back weird you you. you're throwing someone a knee hits you. weird you know your ribs break all the. time hands break all the time like.

common gym injuries knee blows out noses. everybody's got a broken nose I don't. know anybody who does any kind of Combat. Sports that hasn't broken their nose so. there's like you after a while you can't. breathe out of your nose your nose is. destroyed your [ __ ] hand hurts when. you try to like open your car door yeah. and you have to punch people in the head. with it your your knee hurts going. downstairs kamaru Usman you want to hear. something crazy when he walks he has to. walk backwards downstairs because his.

knees are so bad oh cuz he can't get the. knee over the toe his knee hurt so bad. and he's a he was a welterweight. champion of the world with those knees. and he was talking about it openly he's. like I you know you can know you can. know my knees are bad I'm still going to. [ __ ] you up and he did he [ __ ]. everybody up Forever Until Leon Edwards. dang but his knees are so bad that he. would have to walk on the grass where. everybody was like walk on the sidewalk. you'd have to go over to walk on the. grass cuz just take a little bit of. ReliOn just something yeah bone on bone.

man yeah bone on. bone like The Operators like you know. guys are jumping out of oh yeah like all. of them are jacked up and everyone in. the strength World everyone's low back. everyone's shoulder everyone's knee. everyone in Jiu-Jitsu everyone's got a. back problem everyone's got a neck. problem part of it everyone blows a knee. out part of it yeah and if you know. Eddie always used to say look you're. going to have to get surgery EV you're. going to have to get surgery just get. the surgery heal up come back you're not. going to stop are we yeah we rebuilding. this engine and keep it racing or is.

this like a doing the least as you can. to not get surgery my second surgery I. went to this doctor and when I had a. bucket handle miniscus tear so it would. lock you ever have one of those where it. locks out it was [ __ ] brutal and uh. he was like you've got to stop doing. martial arts I go shut the [ __ ] up I go. you don't know what you're talking about. I go fix this I go he was like when. you're older I'm like yeah when I'm. older like right now I'm 30 years old. fix my [ __ ] knee I got to go strangle. people what are you talking about what. the [ __ ] are you talking about stop.

doing this I'm not going to stop doing. this same thing I was 22 when I had that. and I had an Olympic trial in two years. I was like too much fun I was like yeah. no like no F and I before I went under I. was like I've squatted this much and I. do this when I come out of it I expect. to be back there so fix it like that. don't fix it like I'm an old guy taking. her easy and like I'm young I I got I. got [ __ ] to do they fix it differently. depending on like who you are I just. felt better about saying. it I tell you what they do get they got.

a lot better I assume they would. actually fix you maybe they wouldn't fix. normal people well I tell everybody if. you have an opportunity to get um a ACL. reconstruction please at least try the. cadav graft I know a lot of people want. to do that Patell tendon graft because. you don't have the risk of rejection I. don't know anybody who's had a rejection. from the uh cadaver I do know people who. have pushed it too hard too early and. then reblown it ah because you know how. it works do you know what happens I'm. not familiar it's really kind of. interesting you get this so my right.

knee uh when I blew my ACL out they take. a cadav like I have a dead dude's. Achilles tendon which is much thicker I. don't know his name I hope was a Godly. Francis aato you're like this some stud. just [ __ ] animal just giant Viking. dude so it's uh it's thicker than the. it's 150% stronger than a real ACL ah. and so they screw that in place and then. it's not like you have this dead guys. thing in there forever what happens is.

your body repr proliferates it acts as a. scaffolding so it can feel like it's. secure but it's really vulnerable so you. have to be super careful up until like. that six Monon Mark when it should be. repr proliferated and so does the does. the foreign tissue eventually just kind. of get reabsorbed which is kind of weird. exactly exactly you you eat that dead. guy's achilles with your. my knee is just munching these dead d. man I've had no problems with this knee. this right knee is amazing the left knee.

I had a patella tendon graft and uh cuz. I had that one done in. 93 or 94 and that one back then that's. the only way they did it but it was. really good it but it took a long time. to heal like it was a long time before I. could kneel down on the ground like if I. had to kneel down and put my knees on. the ground cuz they take a piece of bone. out of your shin and they take a piece. of bone out your kneecap and then they. take a slice out of your Patel attendant. they pull that off and they open you up. like a fish and they [ __ ] drill it.

into your shin bone and drill it into. your fibula love that your your tibia. and your femur rather yeah and it's like. wrap it over they get it in there and. it's like a year before it feels like. you could do anything with it it took a. while before I felt like I really. trusted it but I do have to say I was. not as diligent with my Rehabilitation. back then as I was when I got this one. done done with this one I was I rehabbed. it all myself I didn't I went to like. one or two of these things I'm like.

they're just showing me things I already. know how to do I'm like I know what to. do I'm just going to do this I'm do it. all day so I was doing body weight. squats like all day long yeah and I got. it to BL six months later I was training. again full blast no problem were were. you doing any like the bpcs or any the. pepti there was nothing available back. then oh well back then so this was 2003. okay that I got this one done and this. was the Patel tending or this was the. kadab rather how do you think the. recovery would have worked for us like. with all these dings and injuries cuz. I've had a I'm sure you probably have. two a couple friends that got surgery.

that actually the doctor hit him side. injection and even IV with bpc157 during. the the reattachment of a PEC or a bicep. or something super legit it's super. legit along with. tb500 apparently that combination of. those two together most effective yeah. super effective and um you know there's. a lot of people that resist that for. some strange reason I don't know uh I. think I think there's a bit of ego. involved in not knowing something when. you're an expert um I find that with uh.

there's a real problem with. unfortunately some orthopedic surgeons. um Aaron Rogers was explaining this to. me that his doctors were telling him not. to do stem cells after he got his. Achilles fixed he's like what are you. talking about yeah like shut the [ __ ] up. and so of course he did stem cells and. of course he went to ways to well and of. course he was back three months earlier. than they thought he could ever be and. you know there was like some real. thought at the end of that season that.

he was probably going to be able to play. where everybody's like this is nuts like. nobody recovers from this St but he was. very smart and he didn't push it too far. and he wait until follow briam and all. the stuff but yeah stem cells work. there's a reason why you have to go down. to Tijana to get the good ones cuz it's. they [ __ ] work like anything that. works is like you're not allowed to do. it anymore Biden is. thing in 91 that [ __ ] he really. did I was talking to a a strength. conditioning professional the other day.

at the administrative level we were just. talking about different things going on. I said yeah I. said I you know I said there's people in. my opinion in your world that that don't. know about bpc157 he didn't know about. BP and I'm just like crazy and I'm I'm. like okay I was taken it eight years ago. you know what it is though it's like. they don't continue to learn get their. degree and then they're in practice all. day they're constantly working on people. people are coming in the door this guy. blew his ankle out this guy's got a. [ __ ] blown shoulder yeah yeah but and.

I said the weird part is is is you have. a strength conditioning. professional and and in some ways. there's more information Cutting Edge on. a podcast from guys that are interested. in training right than there are from. like the the the you know and I'm like. hey guys just open this the scope a. little bit like well there's enough of. these guys that are super smart and also. jacked like these Andrew hberman guys. yeah and and and super smart guys that. are in the bodybuilding World super. smart guys like uh like Derek from more.

plates more he's the best example cuz. he's just a [ __ ] Encyclopedia of data. and studies and efficacy and what you're. how you combine things together and he. actually runs a clinic so he he really. knows what he's doing so you get the. boots on the ground you see it in real. time uh my doc is Eric Sano I don't know. if you know doc Sano he's up in in um in. columb but you know everyone has gone to. him over the last 30 years but he's one. of those dudes that has like a basement.

Columbus Ohio oh that's where Lou was. exactly he was Louis doctor so yeah he. was he was Lou he was you know you go. through all professional baseball it's. like okay got it tracking he's one of. the rare guys that uh we went to him to. do a podcast how was that oh it was. awesome did you go to Bob Evans with him. uh no we just we we hung out at his gym. yeah you know and he uh he just was. introducing me to a bunch of freaks and. all the stuff that he invented why he. invented it so cool Louis Simmons he was. the [ __ ] man he was so fun he was so.

funny he was such a character he was. telling me about how he got his shoulder. blown got his shoulder uh replaced and. then immediately when he got back to the. gym they made him Max out and bench and. I was like what are you talking about. you need to recover he like don't they. were like don't be a [ __ ] yeah you have. to max out yeah I was there in 2002 and. so Louie and his wife Doris and they. would always you always meet the Bob. Evans in the morning and he would eat. and like do the whole deal. and he was telling me a story about how. he had a he got he got pissed off and he. could something in his cell phone and he.

threw it out the window while he was. driving and then so he didn't have a. cell phone for a couple weeks and then. he got to the gym and he missed a lift. and he punched his own tooth out punched. himself so hard he knocked his own tooth. out and then took a wire brush that you. like clean the chalk out of a barbell. and smashed himself on the. head and he was just pouring his wife. was like yeah Lou was pouring blood and. he knocked the tooth out and I'm just. thinking. Westside was awesome like holy crap so I. got talking to him and he was like had. no biceps yeah right cuz you blew him.

out it just never got it fixed yeah yeah. a lot of those guys same yeah it's wild. but he was like yeah those cats would. they'd fight and he goes we would. literally like is there some some tuned. up dudes in. there and he said we would just. literally kick them out the door if they. were fighting on the floor we would kick. them out of the way so they were out of. the way of the monolith so we could keep. squatting like every 30 seconds you're. up or 90 seconds is whatever it's like I. don't care if you're fighting literally. hitting each other with stuff move the. next guy up and like this place is wild.

they created some [ __ ] animal here's. a wild story so we were there and uh. this this drunk chick came in she was. like cuz this was the old west side it. was like in this little shopping center. where the the windows were all blacked. out and everything it was pretty dope. and this drunk chick walked and she's. like hi y'all working out in here and. she was tuned man she she was like like. all sloppy like legit Street person. right and I'm like oh this is going to. go bad like I'm just I'm just reading.

the room right like. there's it was not a lot of estrogen in. that room right so I'm like oh man this. is going to be bad L's like hey hey come. here come here come here so he puts a a. a weight vest on her and then puts a. second weight so 25 25 50 PB weight vest. and takes her outside wraps a a belt. around her waist with a sled and had her. walking doing sled poles back and forth. with a weight 50 pounds of weight vest. on her shoulders drunk drunk as.

[ __ ] I'm just. like I just like watching I'm like what. she comes back in he's like all right. come over here he puts her on the. monolith two red bands was maybe just. the bar wasn't a lot of weight on there. and had her doing speed box squats eight. sets of Two For Speed and was teaching. her how to box squat she finally. stumbles out and just leaves and like. later on I'm like Lou did you know that. girl he goes no I'm like she was just. some random street person and you had. her squatting he goes [ __ ] half to.

people in this room were that person a. year ago I'm like oh he goes he goes she. could be world champion you never. know wow and I was just like that that. that's what a crazy mentality that stuck. with me for so long he's like most of. these people are broken and they have. some addictive thing and something and. he goes if they could Channel it into. something that might be the next world. Champion wow and and I don't know if you. ever saw her again or if I if I was just. there that one day and it stuck with me.

for shoot 22 years and I just thought. about that I'm like he put his money. where his mouth was he was a coach and. he wanted to see what could what could. someone do you know that's so. interesting because one of the guys who. trained with Louie was Matt The Immortal. Brown Matt The Immortal Brown I know he. did some training with him and I've. always said that there's something about. guys that used to addicts that have like. died and Matt died and there's been a. few guys that I know like that that came. back from they were the scariest [ __ ].

people because they had crossed over and. then they realized what there's a good. addiction the good addiction is to. training y just be completely addicted. to training and so those are some of the. [ __ ] scariest dudes it was wild I. mean I KN I knew a lot of those guys. from that world and a lot of them were. addicted to different stuff and. unfortunately they get into training and. then if they get out of it it kind of. that might P might come back that. happens with Fighters when when they. retire and then also they're generally.

dealing with some issues mentally from. impacts you know and so a lot of those. guys start drinking or start doing coke. I always loved how how Louis just saw it. differently and my my dad was the same. way like he used to always say look for. something not of what it is but what it. can be yeah and and that would that. meant human potential that meant designs. that meant like application of stuff and. it's just like yeah that person's. whatever but if you push and you you. tweak and you push and you tweak there. might be something in there that's like. super beautiful and awesome but you. never know if you just said that's a.

drunk chick that walked in the gym well. it's crazy with him because he's. actually done it a bunch of times and it. worked right we so this attitude he's. developed over time to just accept the. fact that this person might come in 16. Coors Lights deep dude just just tuned. just tuned you know but and I buddy of. mine he he trained at Westside him he. said I mean half the time he said. there's he's like I've seen guys bench. 700 lb like on AET like just freaked out.

of their mind just like wild stuff and. I'm like holy cow like that whole world. is wild yeah like you had an old uh I. mean there that whole world like is so. extreme right the fighting world the the. lifting the throwing like dudes would do. some pretty wild stuff yeah well and. whenever you get like these male. oriented Alpha Characters that all get. together and they're all butting heads. and trying to figure out who's the. baddest [ __ ] around them they. they also develop like a culture of like. acceptance of certain aspects of life.

that come with like the injuries and. pain and suffering and you know like. wrestlers they're they like brag on. suffering the most they want to suffer. more than anybody they like that's the. badge of honor is a what time did you. get up 4:30 I was on my 14th mile at. 4:30 you know like yeah just drag you. into deep water let's make it worse. that's the part of the culture of. wrestling is embracing the grind that's. the whole thing it's like being the guy. who can push being that cam hannes. [ __ ] that does those 340 mile.

runs is because I think I've read before. is this accurate that the highest. winning percentage in the UFC were all. from the wrestling background is that. accurate I'd probably say that's. probably accurate I think if you had to. see if you had to say like what's the. back I've always said that's the. foundation of martial arts because the. wrestler can decide where the fight. takes place a wrestler uh generally. mentally they're going to be tougher. because they went through the hardest. thing when they were a child the hardest.

thing as a child is wrestling you're. starving yourself when you're growing. you know you're dehydrating yourself. before matches you're training and. competing dehydrated you're in a [ __ ]. hot room you know clashing with other. alpha males and you're throwing each. other around and just the hardest thing. getting staff infections every once in a. while but that skill is so important. theill to be able to manipulate bodies. and take them down and if you could. teach a wrestler jiujitsu oh my God. they're so much better at it because.

they're just so accustomed it's just. they just have to learn a new series of. movements to go with this skill set that. they already they they're great at. controlling bodies yeah and just the. proximity like people aren't good with. being all up in people and they're like. yeah I live here they live there and. then the other thing is if you can teach. a wrestler how to strike they have such. an advantage because you can't take them. down and you're worried about them. taking you down so that opens you up to. certain shots ah it happens all the time. where guys are worried about a Tak down. and they get blasted because they're.

they're thinking this guy could take me. down at any moment and then you get hit. happens all it's like another element. that they put in that you have to you. have to deal with that they don't have. to deal with they're not worried about. you taking them down you're not even. going to try so they don't they can be. completely relaxed with their takedown. defense so they yes it's. horrible being there with an elite. wrestler is [ __ ] horrible even seen. like Elite wrestlers even in business. and stuff like that you could always it. always feels like they're trying to. shoot in on you right they're looking.

for the weakness trying to shoot like ah. this is just kind of in you huh well. they also know that they can you know. you're walking around knowing that you. can pick up any guy you want dump him on. his head yeah and most likely they have. no say in it like there's nothing they. can do you don't get a vote yeah man if. you're like if if you're around a judo. black belt and you're wearing a winter. coat you might as well have a hammer. like right above your head cuz that. guy's just going to use that coat and. slam you into the concrete you're. basically helpless yeah if you don't.

know Judo and you tangle up with like a. real Judo black belt you're going to fly. through the air and you're going to land. on the ground with all of his weight and. your weight on top of you and even if. you don't bang your head your your whole. body is going to be out of air you're. not going to you don't know how to land. you're going to land especially when a. guy's controlling he's going to shoulder. right into you as he lands boom you're. [ __ ] you're [ __ ] so that guy's going. to look at every person like meat yeah. yeah yeah I I never realized how.

effective a gee choke was until hoist. gee choked me it was my first ever I was. like yeah I'll try Jiu-Jitsu and he did. like a clinic he's like come on up for. this thing and my buddy's on me trying. to do the thing and then I thought ho. put me in like remember the old thing. with like the paper Cutters oh yeah. pretty sure that was what he has for a. forearm and I'm like way. My Big Buddy that's my size ho is way. different than that it's leverage and. techque cow I was tyeing that shoe it.

was like his armor made scissors it was. just like this is amazing like it's so. cool to see Perfection right yeah well. that's the other thing about coats and. jackets or even a hoodie you could choke. someone so easy with a hoodie really get. your thumbs in deepth and squeeze yeah. you could choke the [ __ ] out of some but. if you grab somebody with a hoodie and. just drew them in like uh like I said a. leather coat like a Lea coat or win coat. yeah you get a good grip so what do you.

got to wear what got wear not oh yeah I. took [ __ ] out of somebody Tu you got top. and bottom Den Jay Leno you're in. trouble that Jean shirt that thing's. durable you know durable around your. neck you want some [ __ ] that tears easy. like you want a shirt that already has. Cuts in it you're preloaded you should. like preload the back of your shirt Make. Some Cuts in it just. cuz uh someone can just grab your. T-shirt there's actually uh a Gracie. self-defense thing that was on that I.

was looking at the other day was a. really smart move where uh this woman. was showing that you can grab a hold of. someone's T-shirt If you're a woman and. you're getting attacked by a man just. grabbing a hold their t-shirt and then. getting your legs around their neck and. you're you're jamming your kateed artery. their kateed arteries with your thumb. while you're holding a T-shirt and. squeeze with your legs you could put a. guy out. especially a guy that doesn't know. what's happening and doesn't know how to. protect himself I try I don't know how. to do that that's not it but it was um.

she was on her back it was on YouTube. tried to move like that one time I was. goofing around with my buddy we call him. the cyborg he's an absolute just monster. of a human and uh he and I were goofing. around and I was on my back and like and. so I kind of like got him the little. like like a like a leg scissors on his. head and I grabbed his arm and I'm like. I'm going to pull his arm off I'm a big. strong deadlifter I'm like I got him I. finally got him he was 290 62 290 all.

out looked like Gordon but like bigger. and stronger and he literally just I. thought he was going out and he kind of. went and woke up and he picked me up. while I was hang and then just slam me. down on the ground like man screw this. yeah you can't do that people could do. that to people like no no one could. stand up with a person hanging off them. and slam them back you got to hook his. leg you got to under the leg I didn't. know that I just got clobbered you want. see the worst worst version of that ever. Rampage Jackson versus Ricardo aona did. you ever see that in.

Pride it's the worst case scenario of. holding on to like a triangle while a. guy picks you up yep and Rampage in his. prime was a [ __ ] machine he was so. powerful so he takes this dude who's 200. plus pounds hoists him over his head and. slams him down like a pillow so look at. this so he's caught in the Triangle. watch how Rampage does. this ah ah y bro that was one of the. worst K in the history of the. sport I mean that dude could have.

definitely could have died he probably. got the worst trauma the worst brain. trauma did he knee himself in the face. too he KN I think Rampage collided heads. with them as well so it's probably a. bunch of [ __ ] yeah like all kinds I. think right there is no guts yeah hit. his shoulder but rampage's head went. into his this this is a crazy slam look. at that bom mine was not nearly as. devastating but it was enough to maybe. not want to do that again that was the. worst and this guy was never the same.

again Ricardo Arona was never the same. again that is such a crazy so that all. could have been avoided like that's not. what you do when when you have a. triangle if you see a guy posturing up. you immediately go. under if he's got you in the air you let. go of the [ __ ] triangle the thing. that's holding him in there was him he's. holding himself in there yeah he was the. he wanted cuz sometimes you can keep it. right sometimes you can keep a triangle. and you get slammed and it just makes. the triangle tighter but you got to know.

when you're way up in the air you got to. let go yeah you got to fully let go and. then try to sprawl something has to. happen you have to disrupt this motion. yeah this thing that's happening the. best way is an underhook like as soon as. you feel like he starts to stand up you. hook the leg and worst case scenario. transition to a leg bar you let go of. the triangle you you get control of that. leg and you use that leg either to try. to submit him or sweep him but you can.

never hold on to a triangle if the guy's. standing up it's just that [ __ ]. concrete you're done you're dead done. your head is pulverized yeah it was bad. enough on Turf but I won't do that again. and that was like you know there's a a. little bit of springiness to the ground. because it's in a ring still and there's. probably a certain amount of padding on. the surface how hard are those rings and. I've walked around in them but they. there's a little bit like the UFC has a. small amount of foam like a padding and.

it's very important really because you. know guys heads bounce off and they get. head kicked they fall down their heads. bounce off they get hit with a big right. hand or something you bounce your head. so you can't have a real hard floor yeah. uh but it's not soft enough where you. want you know John Jones power slaming. you no not really any day like no days. actually that's crazy yeah it's a I mean. to to be one of those people that make a. living doing that that is a wild way to. go yeah I what happened where that.

decided like that that was the direction. they were going to go you're like you. know what I'm going to get the crap beat. out of me and and Dole out a lot of pain. and see how this shakes out or do you. just kind of like wake up one day and. you're in that world you're like I'm. pretty good well you're probably a wild. person to begin with and you're probably. excited by dangerous scary things and. you're probably pretty good at it which. is why you're fighting professionally. yeah you know so you're probably trained. in the gym and you realize you're better. than most people maybe you have a few. amateur fights and [ __ ] a few people up.

and go you know I think I'm the [ __ ]. man start believing yeah and some of. them are right some of them are J Jones. they figure that every now and then. every now and then a guy is correct like. that's the way he should have went yeah. definitely D [ __ ] everybody up yeah. everybody battle so okay you were. talking about first so Tyson on your. that's my heavyweight that's my. heavyweight uh. alltime he's the guy that's like I feel. like Tyson in his prime you have to have.

him on the Mount Rushmore you want to. have Jack Dempsey you want to have Joe. Frasier you want I mean it's like a lot. of guys who are really good it's hard to. say like Muhammad Ali Joe Lewis Rocky. Marciano there's a lot of like for me. the one that you can't remove is Tyson. right so there's a bunch of other ones. lenck Lewis in his prime was [ __ ]. amazing Larry Holmes doesn't get the. credit he deserves in his prime there's. a lot of guys who are really good. heavyweight champions but you have to. have Tyson everything else is negotiable.

Tyson has to be there in my in my mind. yeah you know different people disagree. do you watch other sports besides. fighting sports or Combat Sports I watch. a little football yeah I've been. watching football lately I enjoy it it's. fun pro or college I watch High School. yeah right uh I watch uh college and I. watch uh Pro I went to an NFL game first. time this year kind of cool fun yeah I. saw the Jets play the the Cowboys down. in Dallas that was wild it's wild when. you see the scale of it you know the. scale of it the size of college games.

before a few a few UT games you were at. UT right yeah that was fun I got to. shoot the cannon at UT nice that was fun. isn't it crazy like have you been. keeping up with like the nil and all the. the um transfer portals and how that's. changed the landscape I have. not nil is name image and likeness oh. that right the money thing yeah the. money thing is crazy. well they should have been paying those. [ __ ] kids a long ass time ago they. should retroactively pay all those kids. that would be interesting they should. they should they were making money off.

of them it's crazy how much money they. make the the amount of money that that's. happening now it's interesting because. like it it actually from a couple of my. friends that are in that world it. creates a different um conversation with. the new kids because let's say in high. school they're you know they're bringing. in these recruits and everything like. that and everyone is kissing their butt. hey man they're like hey we really want. you to be here we want you to be a. whatever pay me [ __ ] and now it's. turning into pay me right and but then. the other side of the I want a Corvette. oh that's dude I have friends that tell.

me that there there are athletes who. when they're coming to a recruiting trip. say if there's not a quarter million. dollar signing bonus as just a part of. the deal I'm not getting on the plane. for the recruiting trip wow an 18 or 17y. old kid saying that blows my mindan. they're right you know who else should. be doing that the [ __ ] Olympics the. [ __ ] Olympics they should all say. [ __ ] you pay me they really should. that's the greatest scam in all of. competive sports keep everyone well now. they they can now I mean they Limpet.

committee but originally it was amateur. which well they can meanwhile like what. you mean is like the NBA players can. represent the United States and play in. the Olympics that's that's cute but what. about the swimmers what about the people. what about the gymnasts what about the. boxers those [ __ ] all those people. should get paid every single one of them. and only and no one really cares about. Olympic athletes but every four years. a buddy of mine won the shoot the 2004. shot put uh Olympics and he was like I. still have to ask my mom for money wow.

he's like because no one cares about the. Olympics but every four years godam and. you're like you have a degree at. Dartmouth a business degree and you're. the Olympic champion and and he was the. first athlete to ever um eBay himself so. he had a a shirt that says this space. for rent and so he would he like would. put himself on on the mark like kind of. like the first NL it's like hey man I. have to make money throwing the steel. ball and I'm 30 something years old I'm. a world champion and I still have to ask.

for money every three every four years. or for three they used to do that with. the UFC used to be able to have sponsors. so oh yeah anything you want all like. condom Depot on your. shorts man how about those old days of. like tank Abbot and all those guy I used. to love watching all that on in college. we like get it pay-per-view and like. check it out yeah man that's the the. dark days the early days those was no. one knew what was going on no one really. knew what was effective you saw some. people were effective one way you. thought that's the way to go and like.

yeah it was kind of like when you're in. high school when you would go sneak out. of the house and go watch faces of death. oh yeah and it was like wow this is like. this cool thing it's like the UFC like. kids will never understand how difficult. it was to see [ __ ] up things when we. were young was hard really hard you had. to try hard you had to like know. somebody he had no old that guy had to. know somebody in the city someone. someone in some dark Warehouse that had. a copy of some. Betty video it's always weird yeah no. it's just like yeah you rode your bike. all around and you like find some weird. wood pile I remember when we were kids.

uh someone had a video I think it was. like a barnyard Betty type video like. when them ladies have sex with a bunch. of animals oh yeah I and uh one of us. had to watch the door so if we if we had. a video like that we're playing the. basement one of us had had to go up to. the top of the staircase and wait by the. door so that no one could just open the. door and then so if they open the door. you would pretend like oh I was just. coming through the door you know so like. you holding on the door so they can't. get in like oh sorry oh sorry and then.

the kids downstairs would hear that. they' pop the tape out and pretend they. were you know playing Atari or some. shitari you had to pop that [ __ ] tape. out quick cuz if mom caught you down. there watching a chick blow a German. Shepherd yeah that didn't have pan out. and they were like real grainy like. copies of copies you know like two guys. get together with two VCRs and they. record tapes oh yeah all the weird you. have to get the yeah you had the cables. in the back was that was that uh you you. live in the city grown up I lived in the.

suburbs I lived in Newton Newton uh is a. suburb of Massachusetts of Boston yeah. yeah did you live in New Jersey at one. point yeah that's where I was born oh. yeah yeah so was my dad what part uh. Hillside have you seen all these UFOs in. New Jersey lately no yeah like over the. last few days there's been this steady. stream they're not UFOs they're drones. oh I did see something I think you. posted something about the drones or. something right I don't think I did. somebody did um but a lot of people have. been but they're not moving in any.

extraordinary way they look like drones. they they do it just looks like a bunch. of [ __ ] thinks it's fun to put. drones up everywhere but now there's all. this like weird mythology attached to it. where like the governor was saying. sometimes as soon as we put eyes on them. they take off. and but if I was a UFO though like if I. was an alien and I knew that a bunch of. people are trying to be smart asses and. they're putting these drones in the sky. be like perfect time to visit oh yeah. these [ __ ] won't know the difference. yeah I don't have to use my cloaking.

technology I could just fly over their. head they're going to assume this is. more. nonsense dude my uh one of my buddies he. probably weird even say like he had a. friend that sent him a video of some. weird stuff going on in the desert. whatever and it went through and then he. showed it to me and then it just. disappeared and he was like the the dude. he was talking to said it disappeared. but then like can you have a file that. kind of self destructs because it.

disappeared on his phone too he's like. uh how do they take this they take this. off of my. phone I I don't know I mean I've never. heard of a f Jamie have you ever heard. of a video file that self-destructs or. that someone that's like some uh Miss. impossible [ __ ] yeah soone could chirp. into it and like but it was wild like he. remember that like this this recording. would destroy. in 30 seconds yeah no I was wow I. wondered though like could they. somehow backtrack it where had been.

shared well that would be problematic. because then they would have access to. things on your phone I think I doubt. that's ever a case more likely would be. they put like a time that someone could. watch the video into the video where. it's Val it's probably still fixable if. someone still has it well this dude took. the. video did it on his phone and did on his. phone and shared it and then he said one. day he just looked into it looked in his. phone it was gone he might be [ __ ]. well that could be the case well my.

buddy's like it's soft my phone too so I. don't know man might be [ __ ] too uh. it's hard to say it might be real though. I've never heard of that happening. though which I I would assume that I. would have heard of something like that. especially with the amount of people. that I talk to that are in the UFO world. I fig excuse me a thread on Reddit about. an a glitch in iOS 17 that might have. made some people's videos randomly. disappear important ones that they. wanted right and then they think it's. the UFOs that makes sense this oh yeah. this doesn't say anything about that.

this is just like why is this happening. this happen to anybody else kind of Okay. Google this is it possible to make a. self-destructing. video that only has a certain amount of. plays in it well that would be cool. right like if maybe you could code it. into the video that once this video. plays for you whatever 14 minutes 14. minutes of play it. automatically decodes itself you know. randomizes it's it's p because it's.

basically just information right right. information viewed through a codec does. have like a py like a cyclical rate like. this many times that like because I know. there's certain things like uh someone. will send you something on Instagram and. you can watch the video but then you go. can't go back and watch it again right. or they send you a voice message and. then it and it goes away yeah that's how. Alex likes to roll he sends me voice. messages and they they go away that's. probably a really good idea for him yeah. smart move best not to have a paper TR I.

don't even know like how much of that um. encrypted messaging stuff works you know. I know when Tucker was saying that he. was organizing that meeting with Putin. in Russia and that the government called. him up because they knew that he was. meeting Putin because they had access to. his signal and he's like what you have. access to I didn't even though someone. could get into my signal I thought that. was encrypted nope nope they can get in. there so it's like how much of this. stuff is. really how much of it is really.

encrypted and protected and how much. would they even let you know if they can. break it why would they even tell you. well that's the whole point it's like. it's exactly what you would say that you. couldn't do it you know exactly yeah. that's but that was they they [ __ ]. spilled the beans right so once they. spilled the beans like I know a lot of. people including Elon must started. questioning signal sure so IAL to. someone in the. government and I said uh what can you. handle signal like how how does someone. is said as long as the state actor knows.

the phone number was the answer so all. they have to do is know your phone. number so if they know your phone number. and you have signal game over boys if. you you know I mean I'm sure it's. probably they probably need to ask. somebody if they can do it it's probably. not something they could just do but if. if an agent is like Bert sain's acting a. little [ __ ] fishy let's see what he's. signaling to his friends. yeah and and the opportunity to just. decide subjectively if that's a thing is. and then whatever you carry in your.

notes and whatever is in your folders or. your photos they're going to all kinds. of ballistics for sure they've got all. the it's kind of weird crap know my deer. stands are everything you got dickpics. they got dick picks all of it they have. your dickpics it's like there's no way. around that anymore I think that's. that's a myth the idea that somehow or. another you could have some sort of a. protection from that happening today. yeah are you making phone calls you are. okay are you on a network are you on.

Wi-Fi are you like I think you're [ __ ]. yeah you would have to think so yeah. You' have to think there's enough. backdoors. and alleged probable causes or however. someone wants to spin it that well. that's also how they got Huawei banned. from the United States cuz I remember. you know I'm a bit of a phone nerd and. uh back in the day Huawei had the best. phones they their phones were like way. more advanced than some of the American. Android phones that were coming out yeah.

man they had incredible cameras and like. big battery life and like crazy Zoom. possibilities and I was looking to get. this new Huawei phone sure and then. Huawei got banned from the United States. and I was like what goes back to. anything that's banned man makes you. really start questioning it does but. when they kind of all agree there was. very little push push back that there. was real security problems with these. phones and not just phones but network. devices uh.

routers um different different um. components that had third-party. entrance so it was they had the. capability of accessing information. that's being transferred back and forth. on a network through these routers and. then I think people are like hey why is. that in there yeah and then realize oh. the Chinese government is in complete. Cahoots with Huawei like if you own a. company like Huawei you're down with the. government you have to be that's how you.

stay in business right you you can't be. some Rebel out there operating on your. own making billions of dollars creating. you know yeah well you had Mike Ben was. it Ben on that was a wonderful podcast. by the way holy crap yeah it's opening. yeah I spun that past a couple my my. buddies actually it was the same buddy. that gave me the Yuri bezoff video that. I gave you years ago that [ __ ] video. has changed my mind right yeah when you. first sent me that you're the first guy. by the way ladies and gentlemen cuz we. played that on this podcast like 30.

times yeah we were at your house your. gym when you played me that I was like. holy [ __ ] this is exactly what it. happened yep I gave it to Jack Carr and. Evan Hayer too there's no way that was a. coin like he just guessed it right yeah. right you're like I'm going to put this. next baseball into the you know the. third aisle up the thing and crack wow. that was cool seat from the you're like. go back and look so buddy mine that's in. that world he gave that to me four or. five years ago he told me he's like this.

keeps getting deleted and he kind of. gives me the whole briefing on a lot of. stuff get deleted for yeah off YouTube. he's like they keep taking it down no I. think honestly prior to you and Evan and. Jack and guys like that it was not easy. to find I think you guys just changed. the algorithm on it enough wow which is. pretty neat but that doesn't make any. sense cuz I'm pretty sure we just found. it online he found it on YouTube he told. me a multiple multiple times he's like. they've taken this down often why would. someone take it down I'm not sure but I.

know some of my buddies that were uh in. the teams and stuff like that they were. like oh I remember seeing this back in. '95 when I went through buds or when I. got maybe it was Green Team but they. were in that early early days like oh I. haven't seen this video in forever and. then they kind of watched it like oh my. gosh like you're kind of getting all the. background that but he's he was giving. me I can't remember where I was going. with this but he was giving me some. insight oh about the Benz and uh it was. interesting and I said I was like hey. did you check this out and he's like. yeah he's like sounds like he's read a. couple of my briefings I was like.

interesting like Mike Ben some weird. stuff going got crazy recall too oh my. gosh yeah he just no notes just spitting. out all that information right off the. top of his head that's you've had some. amazingly impactful guess on here like I. I'm not trying to blow you up but like. I'm sure you know the impact that you've. had on the world which is probably. really wild it's pretty weird pretty. weird right pretty weird that I didn't. even try that's the weird that's the. best part about it right that's the.

weirdest part it was all an accident. like 100% like I just felt like this is. what I should do I should uh start a. podcast and then I should keep doing it. even when it was totally non-profitable. for like five years I was like I like. doing it let's just keep doing it that's. all the good stuff works yeah it's like. you're passionate about it I want to go. do this thing you know Evan and I've. talked he's like hey I make Brown I make. brown water and I'm like I make steel. rectangles this. weird like I don't know why we decided. to do it but once you figure out a thing.

that you're really passionate about then. you'll become successful if you just. keep following it but the thing about. the podcast thing was um I managed to. keep the same Spirit of just doing what. I enjoy doing yes like if I could just. have conversations with people with no. phones and sit and especially if I could. get a scientist to sit here and explain. things to me for three hours I would. have always been interested in doing. that but I just it's you can't do that. they won't do it right you have to you. have to become friends with them and you.

can only be friends with so many of them. you know and then you have to fly to. them and sit down time and then you're. like he created a honey a Honey Trap. here then you're like hey I'll bring. everyone here and talk to them as long. as you can guarantee other people are. going to listen people want to talk. about anything which is really weird. it's wild like that's the way you can. guarantee that you can get them to come. as long as they're going to other people. going to hear it they get s books and. yeah the whole deal yeah that's great. but it's it's just genius that I just. appreciate the illumination on varied uh.

ideas like I love that there's people on. right people from left people this like. this hate this like that is so. refreshing it's good for all of us too. it is it's good to hear people even that. you don't agree with of course as long. as they're nice long as they're that's. my I don't want to argue with anybody. and get in [ __ ] screaming matches. there's some people they're like we were. talking about earlier that they that's. how they get engagement by constantly. getting in these Stu that's why they. have those shows like Pierce Morgan. likes to do that whereas like four.

people on the show they all yell over. each other and they're all remote so no. one's there it's like H that sounds. horrible it's horrible I you don't find. out nothing if you could sit down with. someone even if you disagree with them. and just let them talk you could have a. conversation you know find out why they. think the way they do you don't have to. fight them on just like ask him what is. it about this thing yeah candid and. curious right candid as in I'll actually. tell you what I think and curious I'll. actually care what you think yeah and I.

always try to think the way they think. if someone's talking to me about a. certain thing like I will you know. people oh you'll agree with anybody I'm. like I kind of will if I can try to see. things through your head and I'll try to. steal man it for you like if someone is. saying something and I go okay so you're. saying that but if it's Preposterous. I'll stop it I'll stop it and go that. doesn't make any sense because of this. like I can see that you haven't thought. this through because or you didn't know.

about that or you know how could you say. this when this is possible like how do. you how do you manage those so few. people will push back with kind of love. right because disagreement doesn't have. to mean dismissal no and and when it. does that's the opposite of love and. respect it's like no no I don't like you. well that's canceling well if people get. shouty and. arguye of someone I mean I see so many.

people do it where they they have their. opinion like Bill marcks do that like. dismiss something someone saying like. instantaneously as they're in the middle. of explaining it it's like it's kind of. a sparring thing you know you're you're. trying to win rather than trying to just. have a conversation try to see if the. other guy flinches yeah you're shutting. them down you're shutting down things. you think are you're calling bull it's. also a lack of patience right because. sometimes you have you have to have. patience to let someone Express. themselves fully before you disagree.

which is really important because. sometimes someone will begin to express. themselves and I disagree but then. they'll take it around and give me some. nuance and some understanding of how. they came to their their opinion then. I'll go okay okay so I see I see how you. least I see the track yeah and so it's. more important for you for this than it. is to acknowledge that and like yes I'm. like okay I understand so when did you. decide that that was and then and then I. I want to go like I want to know are you. a real thinker or are you a person who.

has adopted a conglomeration of ideas. that comes along with an ideology so. there's there's really smart people that. have done that and they might not even. know they've done that until you Corner. them and then you find like where did it. come where was the trans kids there's. like occasionally you know there's a. subject like make sense of this you make. sense of this yeah follow it Upstream to. the source and then makes sense to this. and let's acknowledge what a kid is you. I want I want to know how vulnerable you. think children are first of all I want.

to know do you have any second of all I. want to know how malleable and. suggestible like how open to suggestion. are children in your eyes I want to know. how do you think kids should be able to. get tattoos do you think kids should be. able to get married at five do you think. kids should you know what I'm saying. yeah do you think they should be what do. you think that they can control and that. not contr do you. even or are you sacrificing them and. their future these you don't even know. for your ideology for your ideological.

position that's like cult-like and then. you you find that out about people that. think they're intelligent until they're. confronted with these like. insurmountable ethical dilemas right a. similar one to let's say someone who. eats meat but hates hunting you're like. you could hate you you can not want to. do it yes but there's still a killing. and a murder at some point and you could. either be a part of that or just. Outsource it and be okay with it well. it's also that's a cultural thing too.

right like there's a lot of people in. the UK that don't like hunting yeah and. they eat meat and you know they'll tell. you like my wife was having a. conversation she was at a dinner with a. bunch of people and I was out hunting. and this guy was eating a steak he's. like that's deplorable she's like what. do you where do you think that came from. yeah this is so stupid like you're. literally carving a steak while you're. saying it's deplorable that someone's. out hunting like we eat those animals. and what is generally and I've had this. conversation a number of times as well. and and generally if folks are candid.

curious and respectful you could kind of. kind of bring them around right yes have. you had someone that really just dug. their heels in or like no no never. really in person right uh online they'll. dig their heels into the cows come home. but I feel like most people this is why. talking online sucks yep most people are. good people I really believe that even. if they're like trapped and they're. [ __ ] and wrapped up in their own. head and most people want to be if given. the chance to be yeah and you can kind. of help them along be a good person you.

kind of help them along we help each. other along you know like part of an. argument is you you know like it's I. know that there's arguments that I've. been in in my life that I could have. avoided if I was more skillful with. conversation and I know that I have. avoided a lot of arguments especially. now as a smarter person than I was when. I was younger I'm better at it I'm. better at just like not biting on some. [ __ ] passive aggressive stupid thing. that some guy says when I was young if.

someone got passive aggressive with me I. like hey [ __ ] you like like let's just. go to where that going let's just go to. 10 I don't like how you're talking like. I'm not going to sit here at this stupid. party and pretend you're not a [ __ ] and. you know there's been many times where. you know I got dragged out of a. situation before acces yeah because I'm. like let's just go to 10 you're a piece. of [ __ ] like I know what you are you're. just a shitty person that likes to throw. Jabs at people when I'm just trying to. be nice yeah and you also know in your.

pocket you know a lot of physical things. that could be advantagous that. definitely helps but it also it helps. that I know that I'm being nice so if. I'm nice to you and you're being a [ __ ]. to me and I'm trying to be nice to you. again you're just thinking that you can. just get away with this and that's when. I like to go hey [ __ ] you and you see. that look in their face like oh no yeah. oh no G [ __ ] you land yeah now we're. here yeah and by the way emotional pain. is something that people think they can. get a free slap they think they can just.

get off on you and hit you with. emotional pain like if we're playing. this let's hurt each other game how. about I just [ __ ] you up like how about. that how about I just decide I'll spend. the night in jail how about that how. about [ __ ] you you know because like. that's what you're doing emotionally. you're trying to create abusive pain. you're you're absolutely being abusive. and some people make a habit out of like. demeaning people to their face and they. think they can get away with it it's a. really shitty practice I I do appreciate.

the people who physically put an end to. that like I've never I've never really. been like yeah you know I'll I'll do. what I need to do right but I've never. been like ah I'm go like like had a. couple days I'm not proud of because I I. kind of went ahead and hit that. throttle most of the time it's avoidable. yeah but in some days un you're not in. the emotional state and sometimes it is. avoidable and you don't avoid yeah. that's the thing like sometimes it is. avoidable I'm so much better at that now. I've 25 I had no I didn't understand.

that you don't have to do this yeah I've. I've expressed my emotional immaturity. at times I'm like yeah I could really. taken that one a different way and you. you're thankful you're like man I'm glad. that one really didn't go sideways. because that also like it could go. terrible and someone get murdered I mean. things happen and can't believe what. they did and then all of a sudden. someone's dead that happens every day in. America oh i' I've had a couple close. ones that you just kind of everyone. walks away it's like and because you.

could like it's like uh what was that. movie like um Sherlock Holmes remember. when he could see the situations and he. like pauses it you can see like and when. like pauses and you're like this would. happen this would happen this would. happen and then you're like oh there's a. dead guy you back it up you're like glad. that didn't happen Okay bye I'm gone bye. just walk away it's like you have to. learn that and the problem with young. guys is first of all their brain's not. fully formed they're impulsive they do. wild things and then if they feel like. they're being slighted they feel like to.

be a man because they want to be a man. you have to do something about it well. it's the number one question every man. has every man has the same question am I. am I good enough right that's the. wounding right and every woman goes her. question is do you do you see me it's. exactly it do you see me and a man says. am I good enough that's why there's. sport that's why there's fighting that's. why people try to make money that's why. they try to flex on each other it's the. little boy inside all of us going am I. good enough yeah and then there's the.

the people that get past that and then. it becomes this ultimate Challenge like. the the ultimate challenge of life is. the most difficult puzzle to solve yes. and that you can solve it above and. beyond all these other Psychopaths so. you're competing with all these other. people that are very much like you but. what separates you from them is the work. that you put in yeah discipline Drive. mindset whatever whatever it is that you. can find that gives you that edge to. pull ahead with all the from all these. other people that are very very.

competitive as well doing the same thing. and then with men they feed off each. other in those environments like a. Westside. barbell gy yeah and then when you're. you're wondering that and then when. someone questions it and publicly. questions it in front of your boys or. front of whatever it's like no I'll show. you I'm good enough I'll do something. stupid right now and end up in jail. someone who's just a walking dead man. with a mouth like someone who knows they. can't defend themselves and so they just. feel comfortable doing that publicly. because they think they're being. protected by Society like wor that's the.

worst when they think yeah this this. actual false state of security like man. if we're in the jungle right now you. wouldn't be doing that or when women. think they can do it when women get. mouthy with men like don't do why when I. was I think I 16 or 17 years old I was. in high school and there was this kid. that moved into the neighborhood he came. from Iran on and his family had a lot of. money and so they had this I think it. was in Beacon Hill I forget where it was. but it was a really nice neighborhood. yeah and this kid had this giant [ __ ].

house on this huge lawn so he decided to. have a party of course so he's this is. how he's going to make friends he just. moved here from another country right. right so he has a party and kids from. every [ __ ] high school came to this. party and I was at the party with a. bunch of my friends and I was walking up. this staircase oh never forget this so. I'm walking up the staircase and then. you know so it's like right here in. front of me while this is going down I. can't remember what the girl did she. either slapped this guy or she threw a.

drink in his face I can't remember which. one it was some offense but I remember. he Uncorked a right hand like Roberto. Durant this dude threw a right hand like. he knew how to punch cuz I knew how to. punch so I watched I'm like oh good. mechanics. yeah this just BL just hit her on the. chin her head snaps back a guy catches. her she goes out and then it's.

bedum it's bedum I mean people are. fighting left and right there's people. fighting in the stairwell I had to run. out there's piles of guys out on the. lawn it spread like a disease it was. like within 30 decide to hit this guy. because of that it was screaming and. then screaming started people screaming. at the people screaming which people. were fighting the people that were. screaming it was the wildest thing it. was like a disease ran through the house. like that like World War Z where. everybody's. like and I I managed to not have any.

fights a couple of my friends got in. fights like one of the better Fighters. there you man not F but I was never. interested in street fighting I'm like. let me get out of here this I know what. this is this is [ __ ] I understand. danger so I got out there and uh but. I'll never forget that that girl thought. she could hit that guy or do whatever. she did I forget what she thought I wish. I could remember quity kind of all I. remember is cuz it's like 30 how many. years ago was that 40 years ago that's a. while ago oh my God it's 40 years ago. yeah so it was like this blap I mean.

just [ __ ] I'll never forget that man. horrible to laugh at it because she. forgot a lot of things that night she. definitely for might listen to podcast. third grade yeah she was probably like. that's me my I still can't talk like for. sure got a broken face I mean he hit her. so hard and her head sna back just snap. like she had no idea she was going to. get punched by a big guy who knew how to. punch but he was like hey [ __ ] you like. you just got the wrong guy with like. three Millers in him and he just un not.

the first time that guy probably not the. first guy he hit a check yeah cuz the. way he did it was like he didn't slap. her you know he didn't slap her that's a. scary he could have just slapped her or. pushed her or something you didn't have. to KO her but yeah but there's women. that think that they can just go up to a. guy and yell because they're protected. by Society there's [ __ ] psychos out. there it just goes back to be nice yes. be nice man like be nice but there like. you [ __ ] I [ __ ] kick I. [ __ ] kill you like hey hey hey hey.

yeah hey I've been backed up a couple. times with the bump bump bumps on the. chest and it's like all right all right. all right then you're like backed. against a car like at a tailgate or. something you're like. yeah and when you say don't touch me it. gets it gets hot and then it's like they. might just touch you cuz you said don't. touch me and like I'm telling you don't. touch me and then you have to touch them. and then oh you're assaulting me like no. no no you're still talking so I haven't. assaulted you like if I assaulted you.

this would be over super quick right so. let's not do that yep that happened to. me uh in DC uh I was walking with my. wife and uh it's during when everything. was popping off oh big big time Big Big. Time things people got real mouth real. real and we're walking through and of. course you know truth be told I'm. walking through I'm my wife looks like a. viking also and we're walking through DC. during the height of everything height. of everything no mask because I'm.

outside and I'm a sovereign individual. and screw that you know like and a whole. chattering group of a certain population. of uh you know well antifa and so. they're R and I was like and I just said. I'm not going to stop walking please. move out of my way Rob Rob you know F. you F this F that just. meanwhile you did nothing I I literally. was walking across and they were 40. yards from me and ran across the street. to come yell at me like a bark they ever. seen like a like a bear or or a wild.

boar get like baed by dogs and they're. all like yeah and we're just walking and. it's like okay please and we were trying. to get to my hotel and there's a cop cuz. they boarded everything off cuz. everything was crazy it was like the. four big groups were all doing the deal. that weekend and I was like my my. hotel's right there sorry I said sir do. you think I really want to deal with. this like like in there everyone has. their cameras out cuz they're like big. guy's going to smoke somebody right and. there a whole deal and then finally one. actually one of them was chirping at me. she fell down and tripped over something.

and I helped her up because that's what. you do and then get your hands on it's. like okay man can I please get to my. like this is a thing so and then they. played music all night till 7 in the. morning right out side of our hotel just. to make sure that no one slept it was it. was a wonderful time fun times it was a. great time whatever happen to Law and. Order why do people think that was a. good thing why there were so many goofy. [ __ ] that didn't want people. mad at them so they started yelling out. defund the police they started getting.

on board with it even KLA Harris posted. defund the police like I mean defund the. police on on Twitter yeah like when is. it a good idea ever to like kind of. cancel anyone like there's like like. besides like someone that hurts children. like after that kind of do what you want. to do right well that's not even a. canceling thing that was just people had. decided that there was an enemy out. there I I say this that like protests. are too much like War you're on the. ground and you're marching around with a. bunch of people yelling you all have a. cause and you're all moving as one group.

it's too much like War I think there's. some there's triggers that's why mob. mentality exists because you got to be. able to kill people if some shit's going. down if you're at War escalates right. there's a mode that people snap into. it's called mob mentality why does it. exist it exists because at certain. points in history we have gone to war. with other groups of people on the on. the ground and I think that's built into. your psyche yep and I think it's just. like catching a fish you know how you. catch a fish like if no one's ever. caught a fish before you catch you get.

so excited I think it's cuz your brain. is hardwired to know that that fish is. going to feed you yes and that's why. it's exciting and you're hardwired to. know that if you're yelling and you meet. an opposing group those are the bad. people and you're going looking for. people that are opposing groups cuz you. got power there's a bunch of you're a. bunch of bullies roll deep and you find. that [ __ ] white guy with the beard. and you're like he's the enemy it was. wild it was it was wild but it was like. an open door to this psyche that that.

has always existed that mob mentality. has always been a thing and if you open. that door and you allow it to stay open. and you don't do something to close it. with Law and Order you have [ __ ]. Madness you have Madness we had that we. had that on the streets in certain. places in this country for months at a. time it was [ __ ] chaotic Bonkers yeah. it was actually pretty cool in my I want. say none of that world was cool but. during my uh in my town they they. started burning stuff and everything.

like that and my Sheriff he's a he's a. friend of mine he's like yeah we shut. that down fast I was like what happened. it's like someone threw a brick I got. Center Mass with a with a bean bag. period first time I go how long that. take you go we haven't had a problem. since like perfect he's like you know. and that's kind it's being kind a bean. bag is being kind yeah a a severe M. really fast generally trains people. pretty quickly and then it's like all. right our town went back to being cool. everyone's fine yeah there's there's no. reason for it and it was just it's crazy.

how quickly it all boiled over and the. it was all these events happening. together at the same time right the. covid the lockdowns the anger everybody. got real weird because everybody was. just locked in their home for months at. a time and then the George Floyd thing. and the public outrage and nothing and. the people were on the street and then. people were encouraging it and funding. it there was people there was there was. certain groups that were encouraging it. organizing it and funding it and they. got money from people to do it and they. they had pallets of bricks that were. conveniently located on the street all.

that stuff's real oh yeah yeah no we we. saw it it was it was remarkable to see. it in real time that's why it's crazy. having a guy like Mike Ben lay out how. it all is going down and you think oh. it's all organic people are fed up uh-uh. no no there's a bunch of people that are. profiting off of this yes they want this. to take place they want to be able to. push new laws through they want to be. able to grip tighter tighter control on. censorship titer the social media. companies have to pay they're.

responsible for this no no no you. [ __ ] funded it you [ __ ] funded it. with tax money that was F filtered. through NOS you [ __ ] you guys are. a part of this you want this to happen. right that's where everyone's just like. everyone just pause just like pump the. brakes if he feels like uh H what was. that song by iron Maiden uh I can't. remember with it speeds up at the. end you know that's what it felt like. the last four years especially during. 2020 I was like this is the the end of.

like paranoid or whatever it was and it. just sped up and you're like oh is this. how the end of the story goes like as in. humanity it could be yeah I think we got. a taste of what's possible but I also. think I think it was horrible anybody. who lost someone anybody where where it. all went down I think it was horrible. don't get me wrong but I also think. we're lucky yes because we got to see it. it's horrible if you lost your business. it's horrible if you you got forced to. get vaccinated it's horri all those. things are horrible but we got to see.

how many people are [ __ ] cowards we. got to see how many people fold as soon. as there are any sort of external. pressure from either their surround or. how many people got forced into it by. their job we got to see that and we got. to see how there are unscrupulous groups. in power that will. people to do things that are not. scientific they're not ethical they're. not moral if they can profit off of it. and we got to see that that they will. use you as a human [ __ ] ATM machine.

and they will they will figure out a way. to maximize their profits and maximize. their control so now we know so now we. know so now you can't think that the. world is some sort of 1950s movie where. the good guys wear the white outs and. the bad guys were the black hats you got. to realize like there's a lot of human. interest [ __ ] going on and humans have a. certain interest in getting control over. money and over people and they do it. whenever they can and if they can do it. through the guise of being Progressive.

and kind or if they can do it through. the guise of you know whatever pull. yourself up by your bootstraps like. whatever it is they find a way to to. rationalize these very specific patterns. of behavior that the founding fathers of. this country fought against when they. created the Bill of Rights and they. created the Constitution they did all. that no. that these human nature these human. instincts exist yeah it'll keep. flowcharting back down to this. eventually it's like hold on people are. people and people are going to do people.

stuff and every time they pass something. like the Patriot Act or the Patriot Act. to they just chip away at that they're. chipping away at that and it's their job. to do that in their mind right it's it. shouldn't be because there's not enough. oversight of them that's the problem. it's like this is the whole concept of. the deep state which was always like. such a stupid conspiracy theory for the. longest time people oh you worried about. the Deep State until you are until. you're like oh my God it's real oh my. God uh how did that kid get on that.

roof how did how did he walk around with. a [ __ ] Rangefinder like we were. talking about before rang finders yeah. that's what he had that's why you use. those folks for [ __ ] shooting people. he's not golfing the whole thing was. nuts the whole thing was nuts and we. were all just sitting there going oh the. Deep State's real like oh someone. someone. did something here how did his apartment. get professionally scrubbed is there are. there a team of people that are actually. organizing something like this has this.

happened before why won't they release. the Kennedy files he died how many. [ __ ] years ago 1963 yeah how why. don't that's 61 years ago how about you. release that yeah maybe like or hey how. about you guys release that yeah or. there's maybe a reason yeah do you think. that stuff's going I mean do you think. 61 years is not a lot of time though. that's a good point like maybe should. wait another. 60 makes makes sense right people aren't. ready yet they're not ready yet I've.

thought about that a I I want to know. right I want to see behind all the. scenes I want to see that I want to see. the Epstein the diddies the the the K. you know the cash Patel says first day. day one let's go that's what he says let. see if they get him in there what a stud. right oh man that's the if you are the. Deep you know what he said he wanted to. do he would close. and make it a museum of the deep. State jeez this first thing he said he. would do and then just reorganize. everything and say now go back to.

chasing criminals yeah and stop. attacking the [ __ ] citizens stop. spying on people you [ __ ] weirdos I'm. so pumped about him and Tulsi and like. there's just such an awesome group of. people that are just certainly. interesting I mean it's I'm even excited. about the way Trump is doing interviews. now like he's doing it's like he's. become like a wiser person in interviews. like he did this interview with this. lady from I think it was NBC the recent. one that he did was over an hour but. even the way he was talking to her she. was saying things he's like you know you.

would be so much better if you weren't. so biased so what he said to her it was. like a kind way of you think he always. had that and he's just so intelligent. he's play he's playing different cards. at different times I think he's. realizing that part of the problem is. not just the resistance that he faced. but his reaction to the resistance and. he still slips sometimes like he tweets. out I hate Taylor Swift oh my. gosh which I thought was hilarious I. couldn't stop laughing when I saw that I. just love irrational tweeters right.

right I mean at what point does like the. incoming president gonna just just dunk. on somebody well he wasn't winning yet I. think he was freaking out you know I. honestly think he was freaking out yeah. yeah yeah because uh they had they were. doing a scop um and they were all of the. sudden making it seem like kmer Harris. was the dream that we'd always been. looking for and they were tricking. people who recognized that she was an. unpopular vice president just three. weeks ago and everybody was all of a. sudden on board and that would spun.

around fast Jesus it was wild to watch. but that was another thing like if you. can learn from it look we got through it. it didn't work but you you should learn. that the government will organize to do. that to protect their position of power. because here's what's up the people that. are in power and we're not even saying. they're evil I'm not saying anything bad. about them but the people in the. administration that's there currently. they're all going to lose their jobs. okay or they keep their jobs so if they. can keep their jobs what is what's the. way we keep our job the way we keep our. job is we present her as the best option.

possible even if they don't think that's. true they have a vested interest you're. talking about thousands of people that. are in control of these very. organizations that were going after. social media and we're getting them to. take down factual information because it. was dangerous to their narrative so they. have already shown that they don't have. ethics they have already shown that they. don't give a [ __ ] about freedom of. speech and the First Amendment what they. want is to keep their [ __ ] job and. keep power and also not get in trouble.

for some of the [ __ ] they did that was. maybe illegal which we wouldn't even. even known about if Elon didn't buy. Twitter yeah I mean I agree I think the. Elon buying Twitter was like that it's. the game changer the game changer the. fork in the road for civilization yeah. it's wild to think isn't it Mark Andre. has said there's two forks in the road. there's one buys Twitter and two Trump. turns his head and doesn't get shot. those are the two yeah those if those. two things don't happen who [ __ ]. knows where we are I I don't disagree.

and and you look at those both scenarios. are both like one in a million like how. would a the Trump like Trump turns his. head like that's wild but then like how. would a guy like Elon exist first of all. In Our Lifetime right what are the odds. what are the odds right that has the. vehicle of Twitter or or you know and. all the things line up not just has the. vehicle has so much [ __ ] you money that. he's willing to blow $44 billion on. something that's worth 200 billion maybe.

so or or rather 20 billion maybe so one. of the things that like this's this. narrative like he's such a bad. businessman Twitter is worth $20 billion. do less than when he purchased it no no. no no was never worked that much he. overpaid for it he overpaid for it on. purpose yeah knowing yeah knowingly he. just he wanted to take control of this. [ __ ] thing that is always been so. important to us which is the first. amendment like here's my favorite people. keep saying I keep seeing this where.

people that go over to Blue Sky they. keep. saying what elon's done is highlight. right-wing voices and accentuate right. and Twitter is overrun by right-wing now. no no no no this is actually. representative of the real country which. is 50/50 this is what you never had. before because conservative voices were. always censored so now conservative. voices and Progressive voices coexist. and the progressive voices who are the.

babies don't like it cuz now they have. people that think completely different. than them and they don't they can't stop. them they're used to silence them you. you used to not be able to say anything. about certain things you would get. kicked off and now you could fully. Express Yourself sure and you're finding. out there's people you agree with. there's people you just agree with that. is the world the world is not some. [ __ ] up Echo chamber where if you say. uh you know um to a man is never a woman. you get banned for.

life that happened to my friend Megan. Murphy she got banned for life because. she said a man is never a woman which is. biologically true but they were like no. that's transphobic for Life For Life For. Life Forever by so they don't want any. narrative contrary to what they have. accepted as Doctrine and that's what's. so [ __ ] up remaining dogmatic in the. face of alternate information and pushed. pushed by the government this is what's. really important and again that's where.

you kind of look back and go if. something is being pushed by anyone. right follow the money follow the track. like why so they're doing it under the. guise of being Progressive so this is. why they think it's worth doing they. it's like if you can allow the. government to censor you under the guise. of them being on the good side then then. you're lost because then you you've. bought into this nonsense and you have. if you just looked at it objectively you. have people that are still supporting. the military-industrial complex still. supporting overthrowing democratically.

elected governments in other count it's. still the same [ __ ] that you hated about. the right and that same government. you've let them into your home and you. let them control this most important. platform of free speech on the in the. world because you think they're doing it. for your side which is a good it's a. good thing they're drone bombing people. in Yemen they don't give a [ __ ] about. you this is so stupid they're just. trying to stay in power and they knew. that they were going to lose power if. that Hunter Biden laptop got out they're.

like we're [ __ ] this could cost us 10. million votes the wild part is I guess. because it's after the fact but it. doesn't seem like that whole thing. really really changed the scoreboard and. maybe I could be wrong the hunter bid. laptop thing I think it did I think it. did I I don't think enough people were. talking about it they didn't know if. they weren't if they first of all where. do people find out things most people. are not finding out things through the. newspaper they're finding out things. through social media and if you can. block it on social media they don't find. out about it of course there's so many.

things I talk to people about that's. like kind of in our world like just. everyone knows this stuff and I'll talk. to people just on the street whatever. they have no idea yeah most people don't. have any idea and that's where I started. going oh there's different narratives. being spun to different algorithmic. groups because we're all in The Truman. Show our own little Truman. 100 and we all think that we know what's. going on and I'm like hey guys we all. have our different scoreboard somehow. that's been put up so like let's just. question the scoreboard for a minute and. learn how to communicate with people you.

disagree with and this is the problem. with these people that wanted all the. right-wing voices banned from Twitter. like hey guys that's bad for you it's. bad for you yes and it's bad for your. your own objectivity your own. understanding of the world you need to. even if someone's wildly incorrect if. they're wildly wrong you need to be able. to know that people do think that way. it's good for you yeah make a good point. and like let's listen yeah and I enjoy. talking to people from all over and like.

much like yourself and I've stupidly got. into some some DMS with like people just. like hit me up and they're like hey then. I just like I'll ride the ride yeah and. I'll ask questions and this and that and. the other but it was very Illuminating. like oh wow you're looking at a totally. different scoreboard a totally different. game clock whole thing and it it makes. me at least question myself and go well. maybe I'm watching I'm the crazy one. maybe I'm no they're just a Cowboy fan. they're a Cowboys fan the Cowboys can do. no wrong right and you're like [ __ ] you.

I like the Raiders like whatever it is. show you guys that's what it is it's. teams for people don't believe in sports. and that's politics for a lot of those. [ __ ] a lot of those [ __ ] are not. into sports and they competition I've. always been super reluctant to the whole. team thing in the first place because. when I stopped playing baseball and I. started fighting one of the reasons why. I did it was like I didn't like that. little Billy can drop the ball and I'm a. [ __ ] loser oh I get it I didn't like. that I get it I I like to rely on myself.

like never played a team sport the most. relying on myself to me was like. fighting I was like with the same weight. we you you there's no trickery you're 3. 2 1 go you know you're like are you. ready are you ready go it was like so. simple to me like this is what I'm. looking for this is like competition. that makes sense to me and this idea of. like joining a group of people and all. of their opinions I have to agree with. like that's horrendous to me like that. like what are the odds they're going to. be right what are they odd even in.

fighting so many people are so wrong in. their ideas like there's guys in the gym. that I'll hear them giving advice like. you don't need submissions you just want. to learn submission defense like what. are you talking about don't tell him. that like you should shut the [ __ ] up. like and this guy's a trained fighter in. a gym he's telling people you just need. submission defense like no no no no no. no no no no no you need to learn how to. do it so you can even defend it. correctly just even know what's out. there that's like listening to the other. side right it's like hey tell me why you. believe X Y and Z that I think is absurd.

but yeah give me oh wow okay well now I. realize you're crazy but at least I know. it's also like who who are you training. with where you don't think that works. like why don't you go train with. fabriccio ver doom and then tell me you. shouldn't learn your guard you don't. know what you're talking about you're. talking nonsense you're you're saying. something from this very narrow-minded. perspective like you can only learn so. many skills like no you could you should. learn the whole thing right and if you. can't learn the whole thing you're in. the wrong game because these kids that.

are coming up guarantee you that I watch. some of these kids that are coming up in. the amateur ranks and their kids that. are fighting in the UK and they're going. to make their way in the UFC these. [ __ ] are complete and they're. like 18 some of these kids that are. fighting in one FC they're like 17 18. years old and they're complete they can. do everything like you you better learn. how to do everything yeah you're going. to meet that guy yeah that guy's out. there and otherwise you're in the wrong. game and if you're giving advice saying. you don't need to learn that like oh oh. that's a good like if you're ever given.

advice that someone doesn't need to. expand their Horizons like that's just. wrong right but imagine if that guy's. your coach and imagine you have a team. and everyone in the team has to believe. that submissions are [ __ ] be. building that same narrative right and. then you get trapped with all these Meat. Heads that think it's just all about. ground and pound and then you get. triangled every weekend you're like I'm. tired get in triangles yeah well it's. the same uh tribalism and strength. conditioning too you either got get guys. are like oh all the powerlifting moves. that's all you got to do bench squat B. and it's like all the other guys are. Olympic lift you got to snatch clean and.

jerk and everything else is stupid. you're like okay guys like and I used to. joke I was like I could look at your. shoes and I could tell you what tribe. you're in and what music you probably. listen what shoes are what are the shoes. that you look Converse Allstars a lot of. guys lift with those because they'll be. West Side guys That's a hardcore dude. it's a hardcore dude he's going to run. allar he's going to run call uh Converse. he's going to box squat he's sum why. doesn't Converse make an All-Star with a. wider toe box he would cuz I try to lift. in Converse I'm like these are stupid. they're hard they're hard to do I like a.

wide toe box yeah I like a Vivo Barefoot. like that but Converse are good cuz. they're flat there's not a lot of. there's no push in there it depends on. what you're doing right if you're like. more of a of a you know WID stance Sumo. or box squat because your feet your. heels aren't elevated it's actually a. better situation for squatting right. well if you're Olympic lifter you're. going to be closer so you want a heels. elevated with a flexible toe and that's. so so you look and you're like oh okay. like this is what you're doing and then. I kind of laugh like the guys with the. cross trainers are usually just dudes. that do a whole bunch of crap and.

they're doing plios and dancing around. and whatever but there's always like. these little tribal things like if. you're this person you're wearing Chucks. and you're listening to panta like it's. just part of the G the gig you know and. it's always funny it's like all right. some people think you have to lift heavy. if you don't lift heavy you're a [ __ ]. oh or or you have to listen to music at. like 8,000 DB to lift heavy yeah and and. slap your [ __ ] thighs and scream I've. danced that dance before throw the. powder out of your I've done the salt. I've done the I've done the smelling of.

course oh we do smelling salt in here. let's go here yeah let's roll let's. go is a good one huh rough it's probably. better than what I had back there's a. good one and it's not even uh that fresh. yeah it's not even fresh that's worse. worse than I remember that's Juju mufo. yeah ah yeah we don't we are um an. unlicensed uh promoter of this brand. yeah I know yeah we used to do the.

little capsules and break them and. that's a whole different animal yeah. that's [ __ ] real that's a whole jar of. it it's like there it's potent the fumes. that come out are so strong when you. have a sealed bag you could smell it on. the outside of the bag then when you. open the bag you got a sealed bottle my. ears are bleeding now just the smell. from the opening the bag is rough yeah. no I just what does that do does that. really help you have you ever tried to. lift before that and then kind of just. snaps the central nervous system kind of. like you know when you're past out right. does it make you a little stronger you. think more mad more mad more mad I mean.

mad's good on on big on big gross motor. movements squats deadlifts I used to. call like deadlifts are just how mad you. were they used to have the strongest man. competitions all the time on ESPN those. dudes were like holding on the cars cars. the ramps. yeah the big stones and Atlas Stones it. was so great it was fun yeah I watched. them all the time in the '90s and then. actually my dad was uh in 1980 at the. Playboy club he was with Bill casm when. he did the silver dollar deadlift it was.

what's the silver dollar de he had like. 900 something pounds of these like clear. boxes and uh and they were filled with. silver dollars oh wow and it was super. cool and so there's like an iconic lift. and and you know pops was like hanging. out with those cats and but it's funny. cuz there's like a old picture of him. and I'm pretty sure I mean he was. obviously trainer that I think he was. partying pretty hard too he like. straight off of a of a ripper and uh and. I was like man the 80s are awesome it l. like he L like Magnum PI it was awesome.

yeah they were just learning things oh. man the pioneer days basically jeez it. was so cool you always knew that if. you're were watching the strongest man. if the dude's name was Magnus he was G. to [ __ ] things. up Magnus for Magnus and a Samuelson if. there's some Sons. involved you know one of those guys is. fighting MMA he's been fighting Marius. panowski oh I remember marus yeah he. went from being a strong man to being. like terrifying really good MMA fighter. I can see that in the beginning he was. getting [ __ ] up but he tried to dive. in right away like he tried to fight um.

God he fought some good Fighters like. right. away when Marius was the height because. we used to do a lot of a lot with the. Arnold strongman classic silia that's oh. my gosh did he he fought Tim Sylvia like. really early on like when Tim yeah so he. fought Tim in his third Pro fight and he. got the [ __ ] beaten out of him yeah well. that'll like that was just but I I never. he F butter bean he beat Butterbean he. lost to James Thompson and he beat James. Thompson oh well no contest it says um.

yeah what a stud fought Bob sa that was. Bob sap was like taking kind of yeah my. uh my buddy used to train with Bob holes. Gracie beat holes Gracie yeah he knocked. holes Gracie out yeah so he's had like a. bunch of like legit MMA fights. yeah panowski was like one of the first. guys I ever saw that was that big that. had like vascular lats so we were in the. backstage and it was kind of weird cuz. like he was considerably bigger the year.

than before I think even taller too I. was like this guy wasn't just like well. there he go how did he get taller I was. like that's what I was questioning I. like kind I remember him being. taller boy got taller look at the size. of that [ __ ] yeah he was. backstage and everyone was like big big. but it was like Marius is in a whole. different category oh he was a tank see. if you can find him now though he's. slimm down considerably he still looks. [ __ ] huge but um as an MMA fighter. now he's um yeah see there see click on.

that picture no the other one he's still. terrifying go what what above it right. above it that's not new it's old yeah. but oh what year is that I don't know. it's clearly old though 22 oh because. it's blurry years. old does it say that it's 22 years old. 2002 okay see if you can find uh some. footage of him actually fighting maybe. there's some I'm sure he's got some high. there he is right there on his knees oh. here we. go so he's he's still stiff but he's got. good technique and he's got a lot of. power man yeah look at the muscles on.

the back of his neck he looks like when. there's bucks during the rut when necks. blow up really big but at least like. he's he's throwing correctly hands up. high and this is all technical work. here well like Brian Shaw's been doing a. little bit of sparring with Derrick Wolf. oh Jesus how terrible is that what does. he weigh 390 I don't know I mean I know. he was up to 440. something at one point my dad is. actually who got him in a strong man he. came by our booth uh at 18 years old and.

my dad was like hey you're really strong. you should like get into this yeah he. should be on another planet you're too. big too big for this planet yeah he was. probably. 240 that makes me believe in the. anunaki right you know right there's. actually Giants that like where what. happened 100% how'd you get so big those. dudes you remember cleave Dean you ever. remember that guy no who's he so he was. a old uh they called him like a pig. farmer he was one one the original uh. world's strongest man but he was an arm. wrestling champion and he was like all. those old like weird like 440b like just.

giant farmer yeah there he go yeah that. cat oh why is that poor little fellow. armor I mean look how big that human is. Jesus Christ look at his hand yeah oh my. God yeah look at that photo that's big. daddy. Goodridge um who's MMA fighter look at. that the hand holding the the table in. the front look at the size of that. [ __ ] wild right yeah if you could. teach that guy to throw a jab he [ __ ] a. lot of people up I would like to see a. fight between him and AR Jer the giant.

oh God that' been awesome definitely. wouldn't be long right right did you. ever meet Andre no I did not that have. been cool yeah I would have liked to. have met him that been that have been I. met Hulk Hogan twice did I met him once. when he was super tall and then well I. met him multiple times but I met him. once when he's super tall and then now. he's just like regular big really yeah. because he's lost like five or six. inches of height for his back oh he's. just getting compressed back is all like. fused his whole back is fused he's so.

[ __ ] how many surgeries did he say he. had Jamie some crazy amount of back surg. yeah his whole back is [ __ ] like he. walked to the cane it's. rough because of in the last 10 years 25. back surgeries oh so he just lost back. he had knees hips shoulders face. abs you've I'm sure you've met Stallone. before right yeah yeah have y'all just. talked like random old weird stuff like. no I didn't get a chance to talk to him.

very much I I interviewed him once for I. think it was Spike TV when I was doing. the UFC thing I interviewed him he was. fun he is wild he's very similar to you. and so like wild like remembers. everything from like those eras of stuff. and and you know gunar pet. so I was at Gunner's gym in LA and. Stallone was in there I was like oh. badass freaking Stallone like I'm a kid. of the 80s and I was like hey you know. would you mind he sat down with me for. 45 minutes oh wow and we just talk like.

but he mentioned cleave Dean like he. remember like all the arm wrestlers the. boxers like historian of the human. performance world it was like oh this is. so cool I figured you guys had to like. have nerded out about it did you have. you ever paid any attention to the old. catch wrestling guys no what's that okay. catch wrestling was catch as catch can. which is what they used to call it I. think when it was when they were in. England and then when they came over to. America it was called cat like what what.

it was was basically wrestling with. submissions and there was certain rules. like you could pin a guy or you could. submit him and they could tap um and. there was a few guys that were legendary. for their strength and conditioning. routines no way yeah yeah Josh Barnett. earned under Carl gotch and gotch was. like famous for having like this. unbelievable Gauntlet of strength and. conditioning work that you had to be. able to get through before he would even. train you really yeah like he went over.

to Japan and got trained a lot of guys. like there's a lot of like catch. wrestling. influence well when you go back to the. early days of catch wrestling like go. back go farmer Burns cuz farmer Burns. was like one of the what is this what AM. we watching here what is catches catch. can so these guys. was that. haid is that it was yeah back up for a. second so yeah hacken Schmidt yeah so so. he's like one of the fathers of strength. and conditioning makes sense because a.

lot of these Carl gotch and hackin Smith. were duking it out at kamsky Park yeah. and they would have uh wrestling matches. but they were real matches wow and then. somewhere along the line they started. doing Carnival matches and then these. Carnival matches they had you know. regular people that they would find and. they would like have predetermined. outcomes then it became pro wrestling. and that's where pro wrestling was okay. given birth to it was out of this. necessity to kind of rig the matches.

right getting the Wahoo chop see these. are kind of enthusiasts that are doing. it now like in a modern setting but the. the guys who really know the stuff like. Josh Barnett has tapped out some legit. Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belts in. competition with catch wrestling. techniques it's like moras um. americanas they call they call that a. double wrist lock though they have like. different terminology for some of the. same moves but um farmer Burns was this. guy that was he was so legendary with.

his strength and conditioning that he. would hang from a tree he would. literally like hang himself his neck his. neck was so built up and he was a small. guy he was like 160 lbs but he was so. jacked and his he literally had like a. pitbull neck there's there's photos of. him where he would do this stunt where. he would hang by the neck in front of. crowds like look at him that's him oh. wow okay that's farmer burn far Burns. okay he probably very similar to the the. mighty Adam if you've ever heard of him.

but you know how [ __ ] strong your. neck has to be to and not just hang. sometimes hang like all the time look at. his neck that's amazing look at his. [ __ ] neck but he knew that you know. if your neck is weak your body's weak. your core is weak if someone collar ties. you and you got a neck like that you can. resist it and you could work your [ __ ]. yeah anything that hangs out of your. T-shirt you better train there was a. bunch of those guys um back in those. days that just had these Incredible. strength and conditioning programs and.

they used a lot of things like steel. maces yep like Carl gotch was see if you. can find Carl gotch strength and. conditioning routine because even like. as an older man when he was teaching. people stuff he would he would show how. he maneuvered these you know these big. [ __ ] Maes and it's like super. impressive stuff yeah it just but it's. maneuvering something not necessar. lifting it all that functional strength. stuff he would have those guys do 500. bodyweight squats every day every day oh. that's cool so here's him back then Carl.

gotch and a lot of it was like Hindu. push-ups and look how flexible he was. for a big [ __ ] giant dude yeah like. super flexible so they realized that you. know like we were talking about. technique is very important but also. strength. look at the size of his [ __ ] thighs. dude look at the neck yeah and so he'd. make these guys do these crazy wrestlers. Bridges and look at how you could do. that like support yourself and pull. yourself back up like that so they kind.

of like can resist against necks. yeah so these guys would have these. unbelievably grueling physical sessions. and then then they do their technique. wow so just they would attempt to I. guess be a pref fatigue and so Le well. also you just had to be in phenomenal. shape because in wrestling you know. that's the first thing that goes is you. must have ridiculous conditioning to be. an elite wrestler look at the size of. his [ __ ] legs dude so Carl gotch was.

just like super famous for this he's in. Japan here teaching these guys wow and. obviously this is black and white this. is a long time. ago yeah have you ever seen the um it's. a who is he training here does it say. who he's working with in that's inoi oh. wow wow of course an noi who fought. Muhammad Ali oh okay right you ever see. that fight no oh my God it was like some. crazy scam fight where an noi stand on. his face dropped to his back yeah work.

his neck so he's lifting him up with his. neck stand on his face though good job. Carl got didn't [ __ ] around dude yeah. that's obvious that'll build your chin. so uh anoi had this fight with Muhammad. Ali and Muhammad Ali's trying to punch. him and in noi just goes to his back and. kicks his legs so he's he [ __ ]. Muhammad Ali's legs up to like they were. really [ __ ] up for quite a while after. that yeah so this is what they did he. just kicked his knees and kicked his. legs and Ali's like what the. [ __ ] and it's in Japan and they're.

paying him a ton of money to do it so. the referee has to separate him and the. referee is Judo Jean leel no way yeah so. Judo Jean leel is the the referee and an. noi is just lying on his back kicking. him and he's he's kicking him with like. roundhouse kicks like look at this so. he's [ __ ] alli's legs man that's B. when you're a guy who makes his living. off of his footwork which was Ali like. this was super danger look he's getting. him in a leg lock so obviously this. wasn't boxing this was no it was some. weird hybrid fight that you know I think.

Ali just needed money and they talked. him into doing this but of those fights. we get today is that sort of like what. this was going on these crazy exhibition. real fights that are happening well sort. of but this was real an noi was really. trying to hurt him he really did kick. the [ __ ] out of his legs and Ali really. see if you can find any articles on. Ali's legs after the inoi bout I think. he really [ __ ] his legs up because he. didn't know how to check kicks he didn't. know what to even do and all of a sudden.

this guy's on his back roundhouse. kicking his legs and stomping at his. knees yeah so who knows if his knees got. hyperextended he tore his miniscus like. who knows what the [ __ ] happened there. geez have you ever seen there's an old. polish documentary um that's them. training in the 1970s and they're doing. all that kind of crazy. stuff throw logs look they said he has. blood clots in his leg where does it say. that nearly ended alli's. [Music]. career it was in the right before I. clicked on it it said it in the like the.

little two. sentences finally the 15th round they. called it a draw. wow Ali is bleeding from the legs he. gets an infection in his legs and he. almost has to have an amputation holy. [ __ ] extended stay in the hospital was. the best case scenario coming out of the. fight wow so Muhammad alif uh suffering. two blood clots and an infection in his. leg from an noi's vicious grounded kicks. according to the Sweet science.

Wow Wow when he finally did so look at. this so he said he continued his tour of. Asia despite this competing in. exhibition matches in South Korea and. the Philippines before returning to the. United States when he finally did get. back to the US Ali needed to stay in Los. Angeles hospital for multiple weeks to. recover from injuries sustained in the. inoi fight holy [ __ ] man he put him on. ice man they were concerned Ali's. injuries could even be life-threatening. well that's staff. infection he was bleeding from the legs.

got an infection his legs almost had to. have an amputation bro staff infections. are [ __ ] terrifying have you had one. yeah yeah I've had two twice twice I've. had staff not bad caught it both times I. had a blood clot one time I got jammed. up smoked my ankle and it was like. didn't didn't think much of. it felt like just kind of weird got hot. got swollen I'm competing all over the. world and I'm like yeah it's kind of. feels weird and uh the doctor's like hey. man you need to get that checked up of. course jumped back on a plane went.

across the country and they said that I. had a blood clot from my knee to my hip. oh [ __ ] yeah so it was blocking off the. blood blocking yeah and the my calf was. Giant and um what do they do about that. uh just start taking blood thinners and. stuff and so which was cool but you. can't get cut couldn't get cut which is. kind of funny because I got on the blood. thinners and I just pulled an alligator. tag like a couple days before no so I. told I told the doctor I was like he's. like don't do anything they'll get you. cut I was like well I'm going alligator. hunting tonight he's like and I was like.

no no seriously he's like no you'll. bleed out if you get bit I'm like yeah. but I probably won't bleed out so I. remember like in the middle of the night. in the swamp giving myself shots of. whatever that stuff was in my stomach in. the oh my God it was I'm not very smart. so uh how long do you have to take the. blood thinners for disolves for about. six to eight months whoa cuz I started. on the shots and then I went to like the. Warr tabs and they had to to keep. checking me keep checking me because. they had to let it all break out and so. I'd have to once a month get it. ultrasounded and there's no better way.

can't they pull that out of there or. something yeah that's what I would have. thought you know um that's crazy it's. crazy so I was at Christmas party couple. months later and my doctor saw me and he. was like Hey and he was coup had a. couple beers in him so he's like hey. he's like uh you're going to do you or. your one of your descendants are going. to do something special for this world. I'm like what do you mean and he was. like he's like you know where that blood. clot should have been I go where and he. just tapped me on the chest he's like. right there he goes no way you shouldn't.

have died on that one I go really he. goes you heated it you iced it you. massaged it you flew you trained he goes. you did everything if you were trying to. commit suicide by blood clot for months. he goes how it didn't travel I have no. idea whoa and but when someone tells you. that you're like well that's cool I. guess things are going to go awesome for. a while or you just got lucky yeah and. then what happened my um my lower leg. basically it like they said it grew. another vein so it grew a bypass around.

it no so all the swelling started going. down and they're like yeah you one of. your Min like minimized veins or smaller. veins actually grew in in capacity and. just worked its way around they're like. the human body will do that I'm like so. it just works his way around the bypass. what would have happened though if you. didn't get that vein diluted with the. blood thinners or that blood clot. something to kick loose I me it was. right at my hip it doesn't go away your. body doesn't absorb it ever I mean if if. the uh what the hematocrit or whatever. the blood the the the thickness of the.

blood was still of that if it ever broke. loose it he was like it would have gone. to your heart your head that would have. been a stroke or heart. attack and you know but it's weird like. and it was just a an ankle injury ankle. smoked it it's like oh okay you know. I'll be fine start walking it off and. what screwed me is the next day it was. all black and blue the whole deal right. I'm walking walking walking everything's. not not fine sucked and I had to go on a. business trip and I was like let me go. check and make sure it's not like broken.

that I have to get it like actually. fixed I went to the doctor and they're. like hey you you got to immobilize this. thing and I'd been walking for a week. and uh so they they wrapped it up and. mobilized it and um I remember I was on. a plane I was sleeping and it felt like. someone lit a fire in my calf and I was. like w what was that and I went into my. hotel room and I filled the trash can up. with ice and I just dumped my leg in. there to cool my leg down and that was. like in May and I competed at the hammer. World Championships all the way to Labor.

Day and I was in I was in San Francisco. and I'm like something's weird I pulled. down my knee sleeve and one of the docs. was there and he was like what is going. on with your leg I'm like ah I think I. pulled a hamstring or something he's. like nah you didn't and so I I came back. called my guy at uh South Carolina. sports medicine and he got me in right. away and he's like dude you got a big. ass blood clot and like you got to get. this squared away now PA imagine if you. didn't do that imagine if you just just. die you would just been like hey I'm one.

day you would have just died I would. have been a 30-year-old really healthy. guy that just peeled over and so it's. like that kind of hits you and that was. that was honestly kind of the end of my. competitive Sports World cuz I started. realizing like all I cared about was. winning and all I cared about was. training training and winning and I like. I I. forwent social. relationships uh being smart with my. body and all this stuff because I was. like no I'm going to win Worlds I'm. going to go do this I going to be top.

whatever right and it was just like. drive drive drive and I was like man I. didn't see this very obvious thing that. could and should have killed me it's. like I need to grow up like I need to. like refocus how I'm looking at these. things and so I had to mature and just. like okay I've competed for 15 or 20. years or whatever it was at that point. it's like maybe take a pump pump the. brakes for a second and just go like am. I making good choices for my family good. choices for my business people that rely.

on me because if you know cool in all. things but if Bert just kills over like. you know that's not optimal for really. anyone it's it's interesting how you can. get completely caught up in one goal to. the point where you don't see anything. else in life and you just miss out on a. giant chunk of life but if you want to. be the best at. something it's kind of the the tradeoff. Neil Brennan joke that's the trade-off. yeah I I've talked about like the the. rabbit hole Guy versus The 90% guy and.

like the 90% guy which I think I've kind. of turned into like if I train for. something and get into something I've. generally found if I really care about. it I could be as good as 90% of the. world at it like a lot of different. things right but if you're the guy that. wants to go down the to be the best the. goat you have to go down so far around. the rabbit hole and forsake all other. things yeah to where you lose sight of. of Reality by the way you could still. not make it and you could still not make.

it yeah you could be in the same weight. class as Jon Jones right and you're just. like I picked the wrong era to be alive. right yeah there's Mike Tyson in 1986. whoops so you want to be a heavyweight. boxer oh. no yeah and that's the weird part is. like you could be Rabbit Hole guy and go. so far down and lose sight of life and. still be the number three guy ever yeah. and you know you I kind of like use like. the Yoda like the Deo Forest like that's. where people went to get all the force. like they don't write books about the.

90% guy right they write books about the. weirdo that lived in the forest it was a. little green man that knew the force. however though that guy might be. miserable might be miserable man and. I've seen it a lot yeah you got to know. when to stop yeah like it's fun to do in. the beginning but you got to know when. to stop I mean I would say you're. probably as good or better than 90 plus%. of the human population at fighting. probably probably yeah you're probably. better at 90% of the human population at.

shooting a bow probably yeah probably. right and so you start looking at things. you're like oh the things if you want to. be Levi Morgan there's a long road it's. a long road a long road yeah long ass. Road and like if you want to beat Gordon. Ryan you're probably never going to. catch him because he's already still. doing it yeah and he's not doing archery. and he's not doing a podcast and he's. not doing a thing exactly and then so. like I've had to kind of went to this. thing I was like am I do I want to be a. 90% guy that enjoys semi balance in my. life and is really passionate about. three or four or five things and be.

really really good or do I want to throw. all my chips. in and the probability is I won't be the. goat right especially if it's a. competitive thing right where it gets. weird real tricky with some people is if. maybe it's a thing that's not a. competitive thing and you can keep doing. it right like my friend Gary Clark Jr. when he records albums he goes crazy and. he locks himself in the studio and he's. there for like [ __ ] 12 hours like. every day and it drives family nuts he's.

just like constantly working on his. music because to him like he wants to be. all in yes like that's what that's where. he lives that's where he creates this. great music when he's all in and you. could sacrifice all the other things in. your life you're not going to work out. you're not going to go on trips you're. not going to all you're doing is just. whatever that thing maybe it's painting. whatever maybe it's writing books. whatever it is you're all in and. although it's beautiful I don't know if. I'm that guy you don't have to be you.

know I had to look at myself in the. greater you know if you're looking at. the universe if you look at the greater. picture of everything it's not really. important what you do here in this life. but for you it is and the problem is if. you're compelled to try to be number one. and you don't really Chase it you're. always going to have that thing in the. back of your head and never really went. for it yes at least you went for it for. a long time and that's the thing like.

that I think is the best way go for. something and then but know when to stop. that's where it was for me yeah don't be. a 70-year-old dude out there in the. Olympics throwing a hammer please don't. please don't no the oldest guy who ever. threw the hammer ah gosh well actually. my one of my mentors uh Jud Logan so. this dude made four Olympic teams and in. the hammer and then got out of it and he. was a coach and then every time that he. would hit a a 50y year 55 year 60 year.

he would train for three or four months. break the alltime world record in that. way in that age class and he would go. off again for five years good Lord and. he would just come back and he would do. it again and just shatter the world. record and he would come back and he' do. it and he just did that up until pretty. much when he when he passed did he keep. training the entire time like how did he. be able to come back and he was very. genetically gifted and he would he would. just he was a coach so he was always. doing it and kind of screwing around. then he get serious but then he would. get serious for the last little bit and. and all of his kids would come out all.

his guys he coached and I mean he was. just a ah gosh at the end like when he. was like 70 how far away was he from. guys who were 30 he knocked me out of. the Olympic trial finals in 2004 and he. was 40 gosh he was probably. 45 46 years he's like a little bit. younger than me now but I was 27 and in. my Prime wow and and he would that would. have been his sixth Olympic.

trials and you're just like but it's Jud. right like he's a mythical Bill brasy. creature like he's he's Jud and you're. just like dang it jud's gonna figure out. a way to figure out away and he just. generally his how many age class world. records did he hold uh he went 5050 55. and 60 and then he he passed away a. couple years ago actually he got uh had. cancer and then he had some Co um Co. complications it sucked man I mean you. talk about a guy that's just that. statuesque like best conversationalist.

like poured into all these kids and. stuff and just like he's the coach you. always wanted to have you know and. you're just like ah but things happen. it's interesting when you watch the way. different people live their life cuz you. could see benefit. and you could see where would be a. detriment to the rest of your life and. it allows us to look through these. mythical creatures like that guy these. Jon Jones type characters these Carl. gotas and go but is that what I want to.

do correct you you should know what you. want to do don't get tricked into doing. something you don't want to do because. there's people out there that really. want to do that and if you don't really. want to do that you're never going to. beat them anyway. ever you're already most likely not. going to already most likely not going. to but if you not really sure you're. [ __ ] oh you're dead in the water you got. one foot in guess what [ __ ] you're. going to get that foot's going to be. snatched up by a crocodile yeah one foot. in the grave and one in a roller skate. yeah you can't you you can't compete. with a really obsessed talented person.

if you're not really obsessed and. talented and the weird part is is when. you you look at yourself and kind of. question that like am I a 90% guy and. some people aren't either some people. like I don't care what happens man I be. average and that just sounds horrible. right yeah that doesn't sound like. you're going to get anywhere not going. to be interesting not in the least yeah. that's that's the problem like you're. not going to attract other interesting. people cuz they're not going to want to. be around you right and the biggest. really funny well that's helpful yeah. the biggest part about being interesting. is being interested right you know ask a.

lot of questions be interested is crap. like that's where I think one of your. superpowers besides you have a steel. trap for a brain you've recalled things. that we've talked about like I was like. I didn't know he was listening to that. that was pretty impressive but um the. thing is when you come to that like am I. a rabbit hole guy am I a 90% guy in my. opinion those are the only two choices. like the other ones to screw those but. when you kind of like really look at. like have you ever seen like where your.

line really is my line your line like. when like you're like I I will go this. far but that's as far as I'll go right. like down that rabbit hole to whatever. that is or whatever stressor or whatever. that may be mhm and uh it's it's weird I. hadn't done it and and in recent like I. had an experience it was like okay. there's my line okay that that's that's. what would what did you do I was in. Africa and um and and I was hunting Kate. Buffalo which is the most dangerous.

thing the kill or rifle rifle but still. it it one of those things you get in. there close and every was like go with. the boat right oh you could die yeah you. die it was pretty hairy it kills more. people than everyone and we had a. they're actually awesome we did the. inter loins that night in Amia it was. fantastic and that cool part about that. is we donated the meat uh to the local. Village and they were super stoked wild. part is after we gutted it there's like. you know 400 lbs of guts on a buffalo. and I'm like oh are you'all going to.

like truck this out to the desert or out. to the place and like let the hyenas and. they're like no the villagers are taking. I was like the guts and they said yeah. no like there will be a party. tonight no no running water Hearts lungs. liver stomach you know guts mhm and they. go they will be so excited to get that. and so that was a for me I go oh we. think we understand poverty we think we. understand in this country like what not. having we're like oh yeah I didn't have. a whatever like no this Village is.

stoked to get 400 lbs of guts off a cape. buffalo that's been laying in in the. Woods dead for the last 10. hours really they were pumped old guts. old guts old hot guts and we put a tarp. over it so before we could get back out. there to get the bulll out of the you. know out of the Jungle or whatever it. would be called so so it didn't get. super hot but just a big black 2,000lb. animal what are they doing with the guts. how are they eating it they said they'll.

they'll wash out all the fluids or all. the guts and [ __ ] and everything else. and they'll put it on the grill and fry. it and do all this like they said. protein does not go to to waste in. Africa at all wow so I'm like you guys. are going of course eat a heart but. they're like yeah they're eating heart. lungs. liver kidneys like anything like what. does lungs taste like boy I don't know I. don't if I want to know I've always. thought about it yeah yeah CU like when. you open up an elk you look at it like. can you eat this like what does this. taste like you eaten heart I'm sure yeah. oh I eat heart every time I love heart I.

eat lung I mean liver other I eat the. liver and I eat the heart yeah but you. know it seems like lungs are no I've. never heard anybody and and then stomach. and stomach line I guess that's what. what haggus is right is it like haggus. lungs and you know what I know a lot of. guys do they take the call fat from the. and then they chop up meat and then. they'll wrap it in the C fat and put it. on the grill renella did that didn't he. that looked really cool they did looked. real good season it and then wrap it in. call fat and then slice it open we ate.

the inner loins and they were really. good but they were talking about how the. the the villagers out there they're like. yeah all this meat that these hunters. get like it all goes to the Villages I. think people understand like how much. that changes the game so when you say. you're line what did you mean by that. well they have had another another. opportunity uh to do a lion hunt oh yeah. I'm not interested that was my line yeah. it was like yeah for multiple reasons. well first of all you're not going to. eat it right you could I mean I know. dudes who eat Mountain line it's.

delicious Mountain line is actually. really good according to everybody that. I know that's eating it they're not. lying yeah there's people that are iffy. on bear I I enjoy bear the rivets of. course. they but the reality of lying is I don't. think anybody's out there eating African. Lin yeah I right and they're just a. multitude I mean they're a big I mean I. got nothing against a line to start with. they're too cool they're cool butat. they're they're big they're scary they. hide really well they're really fast. they're dope there's a lot of they.

didn't exist you'd be pumped they if you. like if somebody put one of those in a. movie like what a cool awesome animal. you know so it's just like okay like for. multitude of reasons like I'm I'm a. Hunter guy enjoy it's like okay not that. one okay and then not this and then you. start looking at even training you're. like hey I'll do this this but I won't. do that right and um I don't want to. shoot anything I'm not going to eat I'm. not interested in that I'm not. interested in going to hunt something. that's inedible I just don't get it I. get how people want to do it but I feel. like the same about fishing I kind of.

want to catch stuff that you can't eat. yeah you fish a good bit don't you yeah. I love fish what's your favorite thing. to. fish uh I mean if I really had the time. and I don't it would be like salmon. fishing in a river that's some of my the. most fun because they're so big and. they're so strong and the way they JP. and there's something about rivers like. Ocean's cool I love ocean fishing but. it's like less personal M there's. something about being on a small boat on. a river and you hook a salmon.

it's you see it jump like my friend Ari. and I we went up to uh Anchorage a few. years back and we did a show we we did. some salmon fishing it was really fun. and then I've done a lot of uh trout. fishing I love bass fishing yeah bass. fish is always fun top water yeah oh. yeah yeah late summer watch them smash. that oh that's the best big frog across. a lily pad it's fun have you ever done a. um I probably would be a bad idea for.

you but like I put a uh green light. under my dock in my house oh wow dude. cheat C oh and they all come to it the. coolest thing oh yeah and this in in the. uh spring and you know February through. March April and then right now they're. happening again the stripe bass will. School under it oh W and it's like you. know you're catching four to 15 lb fish. every night every night and so I'll sit. up at the house and I'll uh yeah no. seriously so I'll be with the wife and. she we'll have a glass of wine like all.

right we'll go to bed and I was like why. I'm going to go fish she's like you're. going fishing now I said I'll be back. don't worry and because you only get. like two or three casts before they blow. off the light but you're going to catch. two or three fish every night on the. first two or three cast oh wow which is. awesome it's a great way to get food. yeah no so you you go catch a seven or. eight PB striper gut him throw him in. the ice and then do it so I would. literally fish catch my two or three. fish and sometimes I got one of those. fly fishing form so you catch like a 10. pound striper on a fly rod which is. badass dude I went to Mexico once and we.

uh went mahimahi fishing and then they. cooked it within an hour of us catching. it I was like oh my God this is so much. better than any fish I've ever had. before and then you realize like the. more time it waits after it's dead it. goes to supermarket sits on a Shelf you. lose all that the flavor of them right. when they pull I'm like this is the best. fish I've ever had in my life it's. incredible it was so delicious yeah yeah. that's the best you you need to get one. of those those green lights on your dock.

sounds like fun oh man deep glow is the. one yeah I'll send you the link for it. it's super easy to do and mine kicks on. right before before dark oh nice and uh. or if you get up early cuz they had the. longest time to school on it and so. they're like everything's silent you go. out there and smash couple sun comes up. it's great oh that's a good move no it's. it's and then kids too cuz then it makes. you actually a bad fisherman cuz after. that you're just like I don't feel like. going out like I'll just catch them. tonight right and then everyone starts.

like marking your spots and it's like. the guys out here that hunt over deer. feeders yeah yeah it works it does work. it works but they they'll tell you it's. like well we hunt but yeah it's kind of. it's kind of like farming yeah it's fun. yeah it's just different yeah it's not. elk no it's definitely I mean you're. sitting down the whole day waiting. eating. chips it's good it's a good time to. check catch up with emails talk to your. friends yeah yeah that's a there's a lot. of that like the ground blind guys like. to sit in ground blinds all day it's a.

totally different thing I did it this. morning yeah it's fun I did I enjoyed it. it was a it was fantastic it's a great. way to pig hunt oh yeah you yeah I stuck. one two nights ago the thing about pigs. out here too is like they actually have. to hunt them yes so like you're actually. doing a service to the environment by. getting food yeah and if you get a good. butcher that can turn that into sausage. it's [ __ ] fantastic yeah my actually. my little boy he killed his first pig. last week uh he's eight years old what.

was it like when you ate it it was. awesome we did it for Thanksgiving when. he's like wow he that was so super cool. so we yanked the backstraps out we uh I. I uh marinated in Coke for like six uh. 36 hours Coca-Cola Coca-Cola really yeah. kind of broke it down I learned that. from Jen so she would do bear with like. Dr Pepper no kidding yeah and they know. how to cook some bears up there you know. that work you know um so we did that and. then like made a kind like butter and. all this kind of cool kind of kind of.

drizzly deal wrapped it in bacon wrapped. pork and bacon and then put on the grill. it's freaking awesome do you know that. guy he's a cook is's on YouTube what is. it his name gooa gug GA googa Foods he's. always cooking steak like different ways. to cook steak but the other way he did. it uh the other day was he marinated it. in buttermilk for like a week what yeah. took a steak marinated and buttermilk. for a week and like when he pulled the. steak out you could see like the. buttermilk was breaking the steak down. that's a googa foods that dude see if.

you can find his buttermilk steak. one oh he's Cooks a brisket and. Coca-Cola this guy is every human way. possible to cook a steak this guy's done. it what's your favorite way to cook a. steak I am a reverse first Seer guy same. yeah I I got taught that by um Chad from. Whiskey Bent. barbecue um he says that the best way. particular for Wild game it's without a. doubt it's the best way for Wild game.

take it and so here it is with. buttermilk so he did it one for 24 hours. and he did one of them where he he sat. it in the buttermilk for a week and he. said it was Sensational maybe want to. try yeah look at. that yeah buttermilk just pulled we do. that with ducks afterwards and pulls out. a lot of lot of stuff out there that's. awesome this guy knows how to cook some. [ __ ] steak yeah let's do it my way is. uh I'd like to use the either Trager or. the best way honestly if I have the time. is uh I use an offset grill with actual.

hardwood sure so I'll cook you know get. some Live Oak in there and I'll get it. up to about 250° and then I'll put the. staks in there with meat meter. thermometers and I get it internally up. to about 120 and then either I sear it. on a cast iron pan or I also have one of. those um infrared things what are those. called again [ __ ] they sent it to me I. should shout them out um I know who uh.

Shawn Baker uses them all the time but. it's like a tray awesome it's yeah he's. great and it runs on gas and you just. slide it in there and it's like an. overhead Grill what is it called Auto. wild Grill that's it auto wild Grill how. about Shawn being a freak for eating a. bunch of meat and being a giant 70 years. old he's. [ __ ] throwing insane weight around no. trt no nothing I remember him from the. throws days oh do you really us to. compete he's a big [ __ ] dude he's a. monster and he's very smart you know and.

anybody who says you can't only eat meat. you need to pay attention to him because. that's all he eats and he looks super. [ __ ] healthy Y and he's doing. Jiu-Jitsu and training and you know he's. he's older than me yeah he was at uh he. spoke at summerr strong last year and. came in and then he was deadlifting with. everyone he pulled like a six something. deadlift and then like 400 for 25 reps. or something like that he's just like. hey I'm going to go have another steak. I'm like and got me kind of on it eats. steaks all day long it's all he eats he. doesn't take vitamins I don't think he.

justat Ste I know you've done carnivore. I was actually I actually called Sean. about it because I was like all right I. need to like give this a whirl but it's. worth it it's worth doing yeah yeah it's. legit yeah yeah I mean I don't what. happened I don't do it all the time you. know I'll eat. pasta if I feel like it I'll have. vegetables if I feel like but I would. say 90% of my food is meat yeah meat or. eggs meat or eggs I think that's the. most nutrient dense food my body reacts. better it when I'm not running on. carbohydrates I'm running on ketones or.

you know when your body processes. protein and turns it into glucose which. is like just more regulated for me for. me you know you do whatever you want but. I would say try it if you're a person. that eats meat I would say give it a. shot just give it a month one month I. did one time I lost 12bs I felt [ __ ]. great I had all this energy and I was. like oh okay I'm poisoning myself I'm. like limiting my limiting my performance. at least my mental performance right. yeah I started getting on it a month or.

two ago just a bit I was like I give it. a shot I was eating a ton of venison but. gosh I love blackberries blackberries. and cottage cheese I think are like the. weirdest thing that I just I can eat it. I don't think there's anything wrong. with fruit you know that's like. saladino's move I eat fruit what Paul. does is he incorporates fruit honey and. raw dairy with meat okay and then Sean. just eats meat yeah you know but I can't. imagine an argument where fruit's bad. for you I would say don't eat all the. fruit that's the problem I have a couple.

oranges or have a couple bananas or a. bowl of blueberries with some yogurt why. is that bad it can't be bad can't be bad. right no they're they're good for you. they're they're filled with vitamins. they taste good it's like it's also it's. enjoyable to eat a piece of melon tast. tastes good it's fun again I'm not. trying to be the goat at not eating. blueberries I think the number one thing. is don't eat [ __ ] and when you go on. a carnivore diet you are automatically. cutting out a lot of [ __ ] you're. cutting out a lot of like enriched wheat.

and processed [ __ ] grains and all. this [ __ ] and you're cutting out. pesticides that might be on your your. [ __ ] there a lot of things you're. cutting out when you're just eating. steak yeah yeah yeah do you eat a lot of. white tail or no yeah sure yeah I mean. if I get one I have one in the freezer. now 19 elk a year yeah two U but I got I. got two white tails last year too I. turned them into sausages and I um you. know cooked the back straps and butter.

and garlic oh back straps of butter and. garlic that's one that I A lot of times. I just like to cook on a a cast iron pan. yes especially white tail there's. something about white tail tender loins. with butter and garlic that is hard to. beat that's my kids's favorite food so. hard to beat little salt garlic butter. Cracked Pepper so stupid good oh my God. my son and I will eat like easily a full. loin like he and you feel fantastic it's.

un you feel like you feel the vitamins. and the meat you know it's like that's. what an animal is supposed to make you. feel like when you eat it yeah white. tail gets a like a bad and was like oh. just a white tail white tails are great. people are silly yeah they are well. people are so silly when it comes to I. know people don't even eat their elk. they donate their elk they go elk. hunting and then they donate it to the. church a lot of work for they just like. to hunt which I I mean I guess it's okay. cuz you're providing people with free. food and it doesn't go to waste but it's. the best food in the world and you're.

not eating it yeah the best that seems. so crazy to me yeah yeah you know I cook. up every week I cook up like a bunch of. elk meat in a bunch of different ways. and then I have it in the fridge so. that's my meal prep for I saw that do. you eat it cold cold with hot sauce. that's what I like. I like to take a plate plate put some. meat on there dump some hot sauce on the. plate and just dip it in the hot sauce. and eat good hot sauce any specific well. I Like It Hot um I actually have my own. uh little collaboration that I did with.

Senor luga I saw that yeah three. different hot sauces one of them uh. comes from my friend Andrew a half face. blades he had one it was so good that I. said can I include that one cuz I'm. doing a coll collaboration we made an. agreement so it's like it has the. halfway face blade logo on as well. that's with um sundried peppers I saw. that tell you what all the stuff is see. go to the Senor luga I made my son uh I. got Andy to make me a half face blade. for me my dad and my two boys so they. all matching and the goal of it was you.

either carry your dad's your son's or. your or your brother's knife so we all. switch oh that's cool and I cut my uh my. son who's eight years old now I cut his. umbilical cord with his knife which is. yeah which is weird I sent that yeah it. was awesome I rubbed his first drop of. blood into the handle give him that. knife so heirloom tomatoes winter. truffle and Reapers oh now we're talking. yeah that's Andes and that one [ __ ]. rules but the other ones ruled too the. habanera Ura chili paprika that's a.

[ __ ] Banger and but these are hot hot. SAU where can I buy these now senior. lea.com swe senior luga hot sauce.com. rather awesome have you ever done a deer. leg if you can't I'm not like a hot hot. I'm like tasty it's tasty but it's going. to [ __ ] you up if you're not ready like. that we yeah it's real like he that that. guy makes hot sauce it's it's got. Reapers in it like it's legit it it. kicks your ass I sweat my kids make fun. of me because you know I'm bald so like.

when I sweat it's just pouring down my. face right they're like what is wrong. with you it's like I'm a sweater have. you ever done a deer leg like the. flip-flop style have you ever seen the. uh do mean Andy flip-flop guy I have to. cook it for you sometime so badass so. you get a deer leg with a shank still on. it mhm super hot Grill um put it on the. coals like well the grills like hot as. [ __ ] like 1100 degre like cooking right. blasting so he has this special sauce. and his his granddad I believe started.

it it's a special sauce that's like uh. the way to flip flop yeah best way to. grill venison all right let me see what. you got yeah so you basically get this. sauce you mix it with um. you mix it with wine you paint it with a. rosemary brush you salt and pepper it. and then you flip it you just put it. down on the grill 30 seconds okay while. you're cooking that side you're painting. The Other Side salt and pepper it you.

flip it you shave the first quarter inch. oh and then so that size so the long as. it takes you to shave the first quarter. inch repaint it resalt and pepper it and. then you flip it and so when you're in. it you're in you're going to consume an. entire deer leg in the next hour and a. half and you're that you're in it oh you. know what that's like that's like. Brazilian steakhous exct like a che boom. boom boom boom so we'll do it at parties. and you like you get a couple dudes get. your boys and you're all drinking some. bourbon yeah there look at that and just.

slice in pieces s so good man that looks. Sensational it's ridiculous he taught me. how to do it and I've actually gone to a. couple events and like helped him out. but I've cooked him at birthday parties. and oh that's a great idea it's so dope. you know what I want to do I'm supposed. to with Rella in. March maybe we'll try that yeah if you. want me know I'll freaking cook one for. you I'm sure you could do that with any. other wild game too yeah we've done it. with sheep we done elk is kind of a. monster well it's such a big leg Yeah. but if you have a smaller sort of that.

is that's the me that's the move and now. you'll paint it and then you'll salt. pepper in it dig ass knife like that so. you don't burn your knuckles that looks. [ __ ] great it's insane and what is in. the sauce again uh he won't tell me. exactly but it's what the [ __ ] come on. Andy get with it um he won't tell you. kind of [ __ ] is that it's has all. kinds of so there it is um two bottles. of private reserve are Flagship sauce oh. it's the sauce bottle of won't tell you. what's in the sauce one bottle of red.

wine cabernet or zinfindel will work. depending on if you're non-binary salt. and pepper to taste one4 cup to 1 half. bottle of Rosemary infused olive oil Bo. that's a big gap4 cup to a half bottle. it's like a glug glug glug you drink. bourbon three to four loaves of French. bread several sprigs of fresh Rosemary. it's awesome sounds pretty [ __ ] good. dude it's bro I think we did like 3. hours and 20 minutes how long are we. done up more three three and a half 330.

let's know Evan Hayer but dude time just. flew by super fun it was a lot of fun. man thank you very much thanks for your. awesome equipment too I just tell. everybody you outfitted my gym at home. it's [ __ ] incredible thanks man keeps. me from going nuts it's the best I I. love all your equipment it's [ __ ] so. fantastic you know what I use like. almost every day is that um Franken. hyper yeah that thing is so versatile. feeling better oh it's so great it's. such a good device because you can do. reverse hypers you can do back. extensions you can do sit-ups off of it. you can do so many different things off.

of it I have a new module coming we're. relaunching it so if you want bring your. old one here and I'll put the new one in. your house what are you going to do what. is the it has some um some assisted and. resisted abilities so you could do some. some if you're not quite as strong your. come back return to play so there's some. different stuff that you could do with. it I'll show okay well you're very. Innovative man your stuff is really cool. a lot um and you you've also outfitted. the whole UFC pii Center you go there. it's all Sor [ __ ] it's cool when trying.

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