Joe Rogan Experience #2239 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day so we just watched this what is this. exact job we watch this guy get. assassinated which is kind of I've seen. more people assassinated and killed over. the last two years on Instagram than I. ever have in my whole life oh yeah dude. the explore page now is a disaster it's.

just like me and Tom seura have this. thing where we send each other the most. [ __ ] up thing we find every day yeah. yeah it's a brutal text thread but. because of it now I'm locked into this. algorithm the CEO of their insurance. unit which I don't know what the. difference is and what people heard he's. CEO but a targeted attack by a gunman. waiting for him a real assassination 645. a.m. outside the Hilton on 6th Avenue. where the company's annual investor. conference is about to take place.

yeah man I wonder what's going on with. that that's the one of those things that. just makes conspiracy theorists go. cuckoo I'm sure there's some real good. theories floating around on X right now. oh for sure is there all it's got to be. the investor meeting has now been. cancelled obviously but so that was. maybe the goal what's worse your uh X. explore page or your. Instagram uh my Instagram oh really yeah.

my I don't I just follow I mean I follow. a lot of people on both X and Instagram. it's I don't know if it's necessarily a. good thing but when I someone say. something interesting or they post. something interesting on Instagram I. just immediately follow like let's see. let's see if this would be fun uh but on. the thing about Twitter or X is that. like I don't interact enough to have a. really [ __ ] up algorithm I'm mostly. just reading stuff I don't really hardly. ever.

like post anything I think the problem. is I'll click to watch a full video of. the [ __ ] up things so then it. reinforces the algorithm like oh you. want to see this guy get shot or oh you. want to see this car accident we'll give. you more of those I've seen so many. people get run over by cars oh so many. people and it yeah it's crazy because I. a lot of the stuff I've seen in the past. year I didn't even know could be on the. internet right I don't know how it is. when there's so many things you can't.

put on do you know that there's a. loophole that the ladies use to show. their. breasts which one fake boobs a fake baby. oh no yeah they use a fake baby so they. breastfeed so you got these girls these. big juicy melons and they pull one out. and have a rubber baby and the rubber. baby suck on the head and the the baby. looks so. fake that's hilarious but they can get. some like pretty realistic fake babies. yeah yeah like what was that movie with. um the sniper movie about CHR Kyle what.

was that called remember it was a movie. where he had a fake baby and it was like. so obvious he's got this like rubber. baby and he's like holding on to his. child in this stupid scene I'm I'm. pretty sure on Twitter you can just post. nudity without any yes like problems. right you can problems pornography yeah. the dude the replies to a lot of tweets. that are irrelevant to porn it'll just. be like that's cool but if you see my. [ __ ] it'll be like some chick promoting. her only.

that's so common now and I just like the. discourse is like half infested at this. point they had this one lady who was. saying she made $40 million this year on. in on uh only fans oh yeah that's nuts. 40 million and she's a virgin I guess. and she doesn't post SE sure sure she's. a virgin sure she's a 23-year-old big. tittied version the only one that exists. in the whole world see that's an.

interesting uh scenario if true because. it's like a lot of dudes want to [ __ ] on. these chicks for being like like. prostitutes essentially right but like. if she was actually a virgin and she's. posting like almost nude but not quite. but making a bunch of money off it yeah. there's like two contradictory things. going on right now yeah she wins but the. problem is this is I mean I don't want. to tell anybody to not do do anything.

like ladies you do what you want you do. you if I was a young pretty girl I'd. probably be on only fans I'd probably. make some money [ __ ] it why would I want. to be a waitress when I could just show. my tits that's how I would look at it. the problem is twofold one you become. addicted to an extraordinary amount of. money if you're successful at it right. so there's like a scale of people on the. only fans apparently most of the only F. did we we talked about this right like. most of the gals don't make that much. money most of them yeah I mean that's. what what's that much six figures or.

millions or no like even less like most. of them make a few thousand a month I. think so I think out of this 43 one guy. paid her five million she said yeah dude. that's. insane it would suck too is if you went. full board and you did like actual porn. and just got like banged on camera just. for thinking you're going to become a. multi-millionaire and then you still are. like you would have to get banged on. camera a lot for years to really develop. a fan base and you have to do a really.

good job like every time super. enthusiastic but my point is like you're. not going to like most beautiful young. women want a high value man as a husband. if let's say they're heterosexual let's. just assume they want to get married if. they do want to get married they do want. a relationship you're not going to get a. high value man especially if you're. making if you're making millions of. dollars a year doing this you're going. to want a guy who makes millions of. dollars a year right you're not going to.

want a guy who makes less than you. you're probably used to buying [ __ ]. Louis Vuitton this and that and you're. used to all this [ __ ] so you're probably. you're wealthy right so you're already. your dating pool's smaller because. you're probably not interested in a guy. who makes $100,000 a year like a regular. guy to you is like what is he going to. do he can't even take me anywhere this B. I'm going to pay for our vacation the. [ __ ] out of here right so you've already. like cut like regular guys out so now. you have a very small pool of men that.

you can date and then out of that pool. how many of them are going to accept the. fact that you're doing this now you have. an even smaller pool so some guys will. accept it but for how long like if you. get real serious you get married and. then you're still showing your asshle. everybody that's you know you're in but. you're addicted to that money like are. you going to pick a relationship over. this guy who may or may not be dming his. ex-girlfriend you know like you're going. to throw it all away and throw away this. 40 million year Empire you've created or.

are you trapped in that essentially. forever yeah it's uh it's interesting. the thresholds though too of where they. become successful for what they're doing. because it seems like some of them don't. have to show their [ __ ] they just. they just post like thirst trap Fitness. girl type content almost and people pay. for that I but why would they pay for. that when there's so much of that for. free on Instagram I know that's like the. common question and my search page on.

Instagram is all. butts I I assume it it's something to do. with like you follow this person and. like you get a bigger hit of dopamine. probably from being able to hypo. potentially see more revealing something. from somebody that you are like a fan of. already it's interaction May that I. think is a big component too cuz it's. like I think half the income is like uh.

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indistinguishable AI girlfriends that. are going to interact with guys and how. this is going to create like profound. loneliness and all sorts of real. problems yeah I imagine so and um I I. imagine a lot of the DM conversations. are probably AI chat GPT already 100%. yeah or you know you got some Andrew. Tate type deal there's a bunch of dudes. who are like pounded on the keyboard. where the girl shows her tits yeah which. is what he did for years yeah innovator.

yeah and the curve yeah yeah you're. you're going to not have any idea. whether it's even a real person right. because there's a bunch of AI generated. girlfriends or girls rather that have. only fans where they don't even exist. they're not even a physical being yeah. there's some pretty big Instagram pages. I think that are just like fake yeah. yeah yeah and it's just like even a I. think they're owned by entities like. companies that have like an army of AI. chicks yeah yeah oh yeah which is crazy.

and they generate a lot of money I've. seen the comment section on a couple of. them too and shockingly well maybe not I. don't know but there's a lot of people. that are engaging with it like it's a. real person and I thought it was pretty. obvious it was AI but I mean like some. people are pretty stupid well there's a. high percentage of people in this. country that have a below 85. IQ like a real good percentage isn't. like 15 or 20% is it something nutty. like that yeah yeah it's like it's the. same amount that people that like above. it are going to be below it's like a.

standard deviation of like averages and. stats yeah there's people that are. they're about as smart as a. labrador they just can talk and you. could trick them yeah yeah you know and. if you can get those dumb asses that. work at Subway to donate $5 a month and. you get enough of them have you seen the. uh the UFC collab with that only fans. chick does a UFC collab only fans chick. pull it up what is this so there's this. girl who to spark outrage and get.

engagement she breaks like exotic cars. like she'll stand on a Lambo and just. smash the windshield or something what. and just like shake her ass and then it. gets tons of views and there's a bunch. of guys freaking out because she's. disrespecting a nice piece of Machinery. or whatever but at the end of the day. she gets views from it and then more. people go to her page and sign up to it. but how much is a Lambo worth like. Lambos are like half a million dollars. right she'll smash like the windshield.

only or like a window from like the. driver's side and then do some like call. to action or something wow like pull up. the the UFC one you'll be able to tell. what I'm talking about better I know the. girl you're talking about but I don't I. didn't know she did something with the. UFC yeah Dana White like posted. it what he's like check this [ __ ] out. what yeah I got to find on a second. unless they un is it on UFC Instagram. yeah it was like a collaboration I saw a.

few days. ago. okay what they're giving away a McLaren. or something for the next UFC event I. think and she's the one who's talking. about it after smashing the window of Al. Lambo what yeah real I I thought it was. kind of a weird combo this is the. gal oh don't do it don't you got a is. that a crowbar oh what the [ __ ] are you. doing oh Jesus that's why I'm giving. away this McLaren 600 LT at Power slab. for for free check out the links in our.

bios on how to enter everybody said wow. we're the dumbest [ __ ] race one of we. so dumb what are the accounts that. collabed with it it was UFC right yeah a. for power slap event we are we are of. course it's for power slap that's just. as dumb we are the dumbest [ __ ]. that have ever lived we really are what. do you think about power slap I don't I. don't I don't get it um I I've watched. it a ton of times un like little. Instagram reals you know when it shows.

up I watch guys get ko'ed it's I would. never advise anybody to do it I don't. care how good you are getting slapped I. don't care how good you are at slapping. people for me the whole idea of fighting. is to hit and not get hit like the whole. idea is the skill it's like you impose. your skill set it's like a you know. human chess game that's the opposite. you're just standing in front of each. other whacking each other in the face. but I will watch so if people want to do. it that's your. you know if you're some giant fat guy.

you see one of those guys actually had a. fight a dirty boxing fight with yoel. Romero who's like the. freaks the dirty boxing King dude he's. also super juicy now he's a heavyweight. now so yoel is. 47 so he was competing under pretty. rigorous testing with the UFC as far as. like you know I'm sure you would. disagree but look at what he looks like. now we could talk about that later. definitely this is yoel.

now he smashes this guy look at the size. of him this is not a good video Jamie. find find another video of it there's. the actual video of It from the fight. event that's like someone's camera from. the side side view but he's huge yoel's. like 220 now 225 baby he's [ __ ]. massive he used to suck down to 185 and. then what would he walk in at though I. think like two well when he would weigh. 185 this is back when yoel was fighting.

there was actual weigh-ins yeah you know. so right now there's actual weigh-ins. but it's a ceremonial weighin like. tomorrow uh at the UFC I'll host the. ceremonial weighin so the fighters. weighed in at like 9 o' in the morning. the ceremonial weighin is at 5:00 p.m. they've had the entire day to rehydrate. so yoel back in those days was 185 when. you wait in at 5:00 p.m. at 185 and you. couldn't believe he was 185 cuz I would. be like 200 lb and I'd be sitting there.

I'm like. how how am I bigger than you this. doesn't make this like defies all known. laws of physics and gravity like it. doesn't make any sense he was massive. these enormous traps he was one of the. rare guys that when he would suck weight. he didn't look smaller he still looked. [ __ ] huge man yeah he had like really. he has really round muscle bellies so. it's almost like bodybuilder esque in. terms of like how much how much bigger. you look just cosmetic too so this guy.

that he's fighting is a slap fight guy. and look at the size of Y now he's. definitely Les lean yeah he's lesan he's. eating whatever he wants but he's still. got a. six-pack but he's [ __ ] massive dude. so how do he end up in this league like. what was oh I I think this is Mike Mike. Perry's thing I think he's putting this. together he's involved with it in some. way shape or form so yoel is just. basically like toying with this guy this. guy has literally no business no. disrespect to the man but no business in.

the the ring with this world class. athlete like how much do you got to get. paid to go in and fight yel for this $15. like watch how he hops up in the air. before he he decides to go what is that. about he just decides to like hop in the. air he's like enough let me end this he. just decides it's time to end it oh my. God he's [ __ ] huge dude look at his. back look at his back that guy used to. weigh 185.

and by the way if look at see the back. of his neck he has a fully fused. neck if he wasn't you know 36 when he. entered into the UFC that's how old he. was when he first started fighting he. was already past his professional Prime. when he first started fighting in the. UFC you know if he had gotten into MMA. when he was 20 probably nobody would. have ever beaten him he's the freak of. all freaks when it comes to like. athletic specimens like he's the freak. yeah when was his last fight in the UFC.

quite a while ago uh he fought. aagna I want to say five years ago when. did when when did he fight. Israel and I think maybe he had one. other fight other than that but you know. he was knocking guys dead at 40 you. know before the pandemic March March 7th. 2020 there you go so that was his last. fight in the UFC so the last four years. he's been competing for. Bellator and so they're a little less.

stringent they don't have a usada deal. or now uh whatever it's called Uh drug. free sport I think they call it now. that's the new company which is. essentially the same protocols but they. don't wake you up on the day of the. weigh-ins or anything like you saw it. was gross like they would take these. guys that are dehydrated starving. themselves day before the fight wake. them up at six o'clock in the morning. did you see that uh article I sent you. about the usata corruption yes so let's. talk about that yeah so basically and.

this was like a water press release too. so it's not like it was some journalist. or something it's like on the official. water site and they were basically. exposing how usada was covering up uh. test results so for which athletes uh. unnamed uh as far as which sports they. wouldn't say they just had like Olympic. level athletes and Elite athletes and. kept it very vague really and. essentially they they just closed what. they had tested positive for and even. that one of them was an Olympic caliber.

athlete and their entire career they got. to go until retirement without getting. exposed just because they helped us. supposedly catch other people oh they. were narcs so like yeah so if you helped. them catch people then you could get. away with using like full board. testosterone really yeah oh my God so. they're like a drug dealer that works. for the government yeah wow. and this was like one of the reasons of.

many why like Hunter and others are very. critical of usata and are glad they're. not under it anymore well there's a lot. of stupidity with their regulations like. one of them is BBC 157 which is natural. in the human body you know and peptides. all they're doing is helping you heal. you're literally dealing with a sport we. beat the [ __ ] [ __ ] out of each other. every day in training and you you're not. going to like assist these people in. healing like wouldn't that only benefit. everybody there's no like fear of like.

harm there's no there like no one's. dying from BBC 157 within the code. there's a provision whereby an athlete. who provides substantial assistance can. subsequently apply to have a proportion. of their period of ineligibility. suspended wow look how they phrase that. how what dirty language proportion of. their period of ineligibility suspended. what does that mean it means you're. you're allowing them to cheat however. there's a clear process for that which. does not involve allowing Those Who Have. Cheated to continue to compete while.

they may or may not gather incriminating. in what wait a minute what are you. saying then so it doesn't do that. they're saying it doesn't do. that at the bottom W is now aware of at. least three cases where athletes who had. committed serious anti-doping rule. violations were allowed to continue to. compete for years while they acted as. undercover agents okay so they pretended. that they wouldn't let someone compete. if they were doping but they still did. yeah essentially while they were on [ __ ]. wow imagine if that's like boxing in the.

Olympics or something like that the. athlete was allowed to line up against. their unknowing competitors as if they. had never cheated in that case when. usada eventually admitted to W that had. been what had been going on it advised. that any publication of consequences or. disqualification of results would put. the athlete security at risk what and. asked wada to agree to. non-publication what security were they. worried about that with Lance. Armstrong what the [ __ ] are you talking. about security at risk in another case.

of a high Le level athlete usada never. notified W of its decision to lift an. athletes provisional suspension which is. an appealable decision despite being. required to do so under the code had W. been notified it would have never. allowed this WOW interesting and it. sounds like this. was somewhat how they operated as if. they had a high profile enough person or. certain circumstances they would kind of. autonomously decide hey if you work. alongside us to catch other people cuz.

you might know something that we don't. or what have you then we'll just let you. you know no one will know that's so. dirty that's so dirty that's literally. contrary to the whole reason why they. exist yeah what's really crazy is I mean. according to the UFC so what happened. was the UFC had some disputes with them. and decide to sever their relationship. and then usada like publicly said that. UFC is going to allow their competitor. to do steroids now which is not the case.

at all like they already had a contract. in place with drug- free sport I talked. to the guy from drug free sport and he. was essentially laying out the pro it. was essentially identical no bpc157 no. testosterone grow nothing like you can't. do anything the standards are actually. much higher now too in contrast like you. said I would claim or at least suggest. that they were doing full spectrum. bulletproof testing but it turned out. they were almost never EPO testing. um the HGH testing was never really done.

and then also the. isopor uh what was it the uh isotope. ratio Mass Spec was uh not really being. done either was that a like a budget. thing like it was two expensive test I. believe so and also time intensive um. for some of these tests as well and I. guess for like the number of tests they. were conducting perhaps it was too. extensive or I don't really know what. the exact motivation was like often you. would think it comes down to budget and.

time but also if you have an expert who. just thinks it's not warranted to go. further like the same way if you went to. a doctor and you'd be like should I test. this they'll be like oh if we know this. like who cares it's not necessary like I. don't necessarily know they went to the. depth and rigor to claim somebody did or. didn't cheat if I have you know. preliminary data that you would exclude. having to go further sometimes you don't. have to you know test further if there's. not an atypical finding so yeah but like.

let's if they're not testing for EPO for. example and maybe there's a an event in. Mexico City right which is 7,700 feet. above sea level that place is brutal. that that's where Cain Velasquez uh who. was known as like probably the greatest. cardio heavyweight of all time he fought. fabriccio over doom and he did not. prepare properly Fabrizio actually moved. to the mountains above Mexico City and. trained there for like 4 months so.

Fabricio who speaks fluent Spanish lived. in Mexico like he was really got ready. and he beat Cain Velasquez in that night. to become the champion and he had. tremendous cardio and Kane was just. dying that's how brutal Mexico City is. so imagine when you're competing at that. altitude or maybe Colorado Springs or. one of these like really high altitude. places which we have events Salt Lake. City and you don't test for. EPO yeah no I'm saying crazy that's. crazy czy because that's the place where. you would do it particular if like.

you're defending your title or you're. challenging for a title yeah and it's. like some of the stuff even if you're. looking for it is quite difficult to. detect anyway it's like micro doing EPO. is still they're trying to refine the. parameters and determine with greater. scrutiny how to detect it how long is. the sh the like the the life is. detectable inside your body uh I believe. it's like a few days and that's if. you're using like that's not a micro do. protocol either. uh well how much of a benefit do you get.

from micro doing uh fairly significant. given you can even just retaining your. Baseline parameters if you're weight. cutting can be quite helpful so it's. almost like offsetting for example the. suppression of hormones or the. suppression of like any sort of. parameter that would decrease with heavy. nutrient deprivation if you can sustain. it at normal is performance enhancing in. contrast to your competitors who are. also weight cutting and might not have. the same advantages well that's why TJ.

Dillashaw did it when he was dropping. down to flyweight to fight Henry cejudo. which is when he got popped and you know. but he was he looked like a skeleton did. you ever see those weight cut yeah that. was insane I might be missp speaking on. the detection time of epo by the way but. it's at at minimum the micro do. protocols that are being implemented. still even most recent literature you. find upwards of 50% of the studied. participants were they're actually. looking for for it still past their.

testing really yeah. wow well one of the things that I've. read about sauna is that sauna use. especially like directly after cardio. imparts uh like like a micro do EPO. effect have you read anything about that. uh not for not recently no so I don't. know maybe you could brush me up do you. have a i well maybe we could find it but. I know it's helped my cardio it it. helped significantly because I went. through an injury once where I I. couldn't do uh any kickboxing or any.

hitting the bag or anything for quite a. while and whenever I did come back from. like three or four months off of that it. would be the first few days were [ __ ]. brutal and it wasn't brutal at all and. it was because of regular sauna use. sauna bathing can increase the. production of epo a hormone that. stimulates the production of red blood. cells this can improve endurance. performance by increasing the amount of. oxygen now um it says here's how plasma. volume when you sit in a sauna you sweat. which comes from blood plasma as your.

blood plasma levels decrease your. kidneys in release EPO so how do they. detect endogenous versus exogenous EPO. it's similar to how they would detect. for bioidentical testosterone other. hormones they look for does it look like. a endogenous signature so different. compounds there's different ways to. analyze but in general it's going to be. either the molecular mass of it or. something to that effect would be have a.

blatant difference between what you. would make naturally na endogenously. versus exogenous origin which is the way. they make it in a lab does not. necessarily look exactly the same so. even though it's EPO that you're. injecting it's actually like recombinant. AKA made in a lab and not like it's not. like they're literally pulling EPO out. of a guy and then giving it to you it's. like grown in a lab essentially right. right well that was one of the things. that Jeff nitzki. actually uh said could be an issue is.

that it is possible at least. theoretically to take testosterone from. animals yeah so find a mammal based. testosterone instead of getting it from. so they they create it from Wild yams. right yeah so wild yams from Mexico. apparently where they get all the. testosterone that when you buy. testosterone siphonate or whatever and. soy yeah soy yeah what do you mean yeah. they use soy to like the phyto uh some.

of the compounds in the soy as well as. yams look similar molecularly to um the. cholesterol that would get basically. enzymatically converted to testosterone. so you can just manipulate that slightly. to have like a highly reproducible at. scale for lowcost way to make hormones. and that's how testosterone is made oh. that's interesting because soy is always. associated with like soy boys stuff yeah. it's associated with high estrogen. levels yeah I think the two primary ways.

they. synthesize testosterone now is soy and. yams so nitzki was saying that with at. least in theory a really good scientist. could actually extract it from animals. and then it would be impossible to. differentiate yeah I think uh maybe the. first time I came on we talked about the. carbon isotop ratio testing and having a. c proof testosterone formulation if. athletes are doing that and I did dig. into it after we talked about it a bit. more and it does seem like there's.

strong evidence that suggests they're. aware of it and are trying to find new. ways to refine even the carbon isotope. ratio testing now they're looking at. like hydrogen ratios because it's more. minute and specific apparently as. opposed to with the carbon content. they've seen suspicious testosterone. formulations that look similar to. endogenous carbon isotope signatures wow. and your diet even what you can change. what your signature is too cuz they have.

to use as like a reference they use for. example from your urine they'll find. some other compound that is like. Upstream from testosterone for example. and they will use that as a benchmark of. like this is what your signature is of. how the carbon content of sex hormones. and then if your testosterone has a. different carbon isotope ratio than this. they know that okay however you got this. in your body is different than the. Upstream. hormone so through that we can infer.

that you know it's probably of exogenous. origin but the if the exogenous origin. one looks like the Upstream hormones. like you you would never be able to tell. so it's possible if you were. sophisticated enough to make the. exogenous look like the Upstream yeah. even though you've injected it yeah and. if you had like animal grade. testosterone or cholesterol even from. like a medical grade you know compound.

facility or something like you could. probably react it down and create like a. cir proof testosterone God it would be. it seems like it' be hard to keep that. under wraps for very long without it. getting out maybe yeah but it's like the. access to lab equipment and highle. testing is not as uh the barrier is a. lot lower than it used to be for sure. like there are I even have heard of. people paying off water accredited labs. to get like testing done to really yeah. so could like assess where they stand in.

terms of like some of the testing that. they would do to see if they'd prop pop. or not is that legal no so they bribe. water they allegedly there's water. accredited Labs not just in the States. but like in other countries where there. a bit more corrupt and you can you know. persuade them to test your samples oh so. you send your piss to Guatemala or. somewhere yeah yeah and then they go. yeah Senor you got problems Senor this. look good yeah. but yeah if you do enough homework you.

can you know develop a biological. passport internally with your own team. and you know be know you're bulletproof. rather than just guessing yeah well. there was some concern with Brock Lesnar. at one point in time uh before he tested. positive and um one of the concerns was. that he was testing himself that he had. gotten tested like a number of times. which generally you don't do H now why. was that uh recorded though like that.

they have his uh medical records cuz you. can just like pay for blood tests and. get urine analysis I might be speaking. at a turn uh I might be speaking at a. school here I don't remember I don't. remember the thing but I remember. someone who knows things telling me yeah. you know I'm kind of on the inside so. someone someone who knows things on the. inside told me dude he got tested like. 20 [ __ ] times or something crazy like. that during Camp oh was for sure trying. to get around them well he's also pissed.

hot this is when he fought Mark hunt and. a giant lawsuit involved right now oh. wow yeah I don't know if that lawsuit. has been if it's still ongoing or what. the deal was but Mark hunt was Furious. yeah was obvious when you look at the. guy I mean he was like 39 years old 300. lbs cutting down to 265 he was [ __ ]. huge man yeah what's even more. interesting too is the storage of. samples a lot of Sports don't actually. do it so with Olympic testing often.

times the positive test results come. retroactively to years in the past once. they've refined the testing and actually. are able to detect you know long-term. metabolites of terol or something of. that nature but in a lot of sports like. especially in the in the US for like. traditional professional sports they're. not storing urine typically right so if. you have more refined testing get. developed often times there's no way to. actually penalize an athlete who was.

ahead of the testing curve at the time. right and at least from what I've seen. there's a really good paper um uh one of. the guys I know who's on the inside on. this his name is Alex Kari Turner he has. excellent information and studies on. this stuff but he did a paper that. basically outlined how I think 75% of. the medalists that have tested positive. in the Olympics at the Summer Olympic. Games for the past I know it was like a. full decade of um. analyzation it was like 75% of them.

tested years later not at the actual. time of winning their medal so if. they're only being popped you know three. out of four people are getting popped. retroactively over a half decade later. or more based on advancements in testing. you can just imagine how many sports are. getting away with passing testing given. that retroactively they're not being. tested at all right so it's like if. you're ahead of the Curve. now there are a lot of sports where as.

long as you pass the test now even if. what you took had a more refined assay. developed you know five years from now. they're not going to go get your sample. and retry it right that makes sense but. wasn't there a famous Russian wrestler. who was popped because they went back. and looked at his uh his old Stu like. once they developed new testing. protocols was it an Olympic Athlete well. that's why cuz Olympic Games they. started storing uh samples. 2004 so they're a bit more rigorous.

about that and there are there are. probably some sports that store but the. majority. don't yeah and it's like you know you. could say it's corruption or you could. say it's you know people trying to the. sport trying to cover it up but I think. sometimes it's just like budget. constraints too because it's like you. still have to be a profitable Enterprise. and right you know I I don't know how. much you can you know scrutinize the. economics on something like that you're. also managing at scale right like how. many athletes are you dealing with how. much time do you have to go back and you.

know review all the different urine. samples and go back yeah yeah no but it. gets crazy because it kind of it highly. suggests that in a lot of sports as long. as you're ahead of the curve you're. probably good yeah now obviously you. have to actually beat the test now which. is more and more rigorous by the year of. course but at least historically what. we've seen is it's the testing usually. lags behind the methods that are being.

developed to get around it is there. anything right now that is not being. tested for that you think is. effective um yeah like in general the. most effective stuff is going to be. bioidenticals which are being tested for. but it's like at the scale it's kind of. up for debate because sometimes they. don't test at all like you know we saw. with usata they were barely doing. adequate in-depth testing for. bioidenticals with no EPO testing or HGH.

testing so I would say those are. probably the go-tos you know like EPO. especially and. HGH um there are other compounds that I. think some people think they can get. away with that sometimes they do. sometimes they don't like um I think. it's called trime tadine there was some. like top level tennis player who just. popped like a week ago or something and. what is that it's like an angina. medication that the entire China Olympic. team got for a few years back yeah it.

was like 23 Chinese swimmers before the. Tokyo Olympics got popped using this. thing and then they claimed it was like. food contamination or something and they. were like oh that's I guess that's what. happened and then a bunch of those two. of those athletes won medals in the. recent Paris Olympics and 11 of them. were allowed to compete still what does. it do it uh shifts your efficiency of. fuel utilization so basically in general.

to create ATP your body would oxidize. fatty acids as well as glucose and an. endurance event which is heavily oxygen. sapping if you can shift which is what. this drug does it sh inhibits a process. by which your body proportionally. oxidizes more glucose than fatty acids. which is a less oxygen intensive process. so you can basically conserve. oxygen proportion to the amount of ATP. you're producing so in an endurance.

event if you can have more oxygen for. Less cost internally then it's highly. performance-enhancing wow or it should. be you know it's kind of speculative as. that if it's actually. performance-enhancing but it's kind of a. weird coincidence how many people have. popped for this drug oh by the way you. said the first time I was here you said. uh uh the Russian Olympics the only. people who didn't pop were the figure. skaters yeah yeah there was a Russian. figure skater was 15 who was on this. angina. medication well that kind of makes sense.

right because one thing you would want. is more oxygen and endurance when you're. figure skating it's pretty cardio. intensive when you're spinning around. and flying around like yeah yeah oh for. sure but they said that steroids it. found they found that like gross motor. skills like he's so loud dude can you. nudge him keep him from [ __ ] snoring. so. loud but they they found that like. testosterone and things along those. lines like actual steroids it was not. good to be stronger as a figure skater.

that it didn't enhance but this that was. Gregory whatever his name was from. Icarus yeah yeah and like I could see. obviously the compound selection will. differ greatly depending on what sport. cuz you know there are some sports where. you know being heavier is going to be. problematic right and you might you know. want something that could enhance I. don't. know your cognitive capacity or whatever. it may be or like slow down your heart. rate for example for archery or you know.

different applications for sure like. beta blockers yeah like for archery for. example things like propanolol like. highly effective as well as for you know. public speaking playing piano publicly I. think there's like uh famous pianists. who uses strog too yeah I've heard of. people using beta blockers snipers too. really yeah it makes sense right yeah. just dropping that that anxiety response. yeah and if crosses the bloodb brain. barrier like Propranolol does it.

actually calms you down very. significantly it's not just about. lowering the heart rate it also like. de-stresses you like it's an. anti-anxiety drug essentially wow. yeah you've never tried it no for. archery I'd be wondering if it was uh I. thought about doing it once I even asked. my doctor about and he was going to get. it for me but I was like I don't want to. cheat like half of the bow hunting thing. is about being able to keep your [ __ ]. together and if you could just do it. like if I could just shoot at a deer the.

way I shoot at a Target I don't think it. would be the same yeah fair enough yeah. it's like part of it is like you're a. purist yeah in that regard because part. of it is the discipline of managing your. mind that's what I like about it I like. that it's hard to do I don't want it to. be easier you know it's [ __ ] hard to. do and that's literally why I like it. like if I could take a drug that would. make it easier to do I don't think I. would like it I'm very effective right. now I'm very. I'm real successful at Bow Hunting you.

know relatively for like it's a non if. like I go to a lot of really great. places to hunt because I have money I'm. fortunate but relatively speaking bow. hunting is not a successful Endeavor. it's like maybe 10% of the Hunts like. with people get tags maybe probably less. in most places actually Harvest an. animal how often do you do it I do it. twice a year I go on a big elk hunt and. I do like a bunch of pig hunts and stuff.

like that in between that maybe one deer. hunt and it's like how intensive of a. prep is it and like the whole process of. doing the trip is it like a multi-day. thing or yeah I go for like a week um. the really intensive part though is the. preparation for it and I was going to. tell you about this too because I. actually [ __ ] my body up getting ready. for this one so when uh hunting season. approaches for like 3 months out of. hunting season I ramp up all my cardio. and all my Boh my archery so I practice.

in my backyard I practice archery I'm. shooting at 85 yards I shoot an 84 PB. bow and I might shoot it a 100 times a. day so I'm pulling 80 lbs 84 lbs a. hundred times in a day and I'm doing it. day after day after day after day I'm. doing it five six days a week so I was. developing like severe pain in my lower. back on my right side that to like. sciatica and I was also developing some.

severe neck pain on my right side so. this is it's all it's really unbalanced. thing right because I really should draw. something back with my I should probably. like at least draw back my bow with my. left hand as many times I draw back with. my right but I don't so you draw back so. I'm pulling it's 84 pounds to pull it. back it's at least for the beginning of. the cycle and then the cams rotate over. and it significantly lowers like the. holding weight is I think my holding. weight is like. 20% 20 or 25% of the actual weight of.

the bow but what happens is as you're. pulling back and you lock it in place. the way archery works is you want to. what's called pull at the wall right so. where the string hits the end where it. can't pull anymore on a compound bow I'm. pulling hard against that wall so I'm. steady right and then I'm I'm trying to. relax this shoulder and Pull and I'm. stabilizing everything with this lower. back with my lower back muscle so on my. right side it was just getting locked up.

like painful and stiff and sore like. hurt even when I walk and I would just. keep going I would do it for hours three. hours a day just hours and hours and. hours and I just developed a real. problem to the point where like when I. was the last trip when I was going up. hills my my hips were getting numb like. my glutes weren't firing I was getting. sciatic pain it was pretty bad so I knew. after hunting season was over I was. gonna have to dress it so I got some.

stem cell shots which definitely helped. I started doing a lot of stretching no. archery for a couple months a lot of. like hard foam like it's I have a from. Elite flexibility they make like a PVC. Roller with like a very thin layer so. it's very hard and I was doing a lot of. rolling rolling in the sauna cold plunge. sauna stretching and it was getting a. little better slowly but it was brutal. like it was taking a long time to cover. and then I started doing this thing.

called newfit and what newfit is is. electrical muscular stimulation while. you going through exercise routines and. so they slap these electr pads uh all. over your muscles and fully contract you. and then you go through exercises while. you're doing it and it's like. significantly increased my. Rehabilitation I've only been doing it. for a few weeks too I've only been doing. it for like three weeks all my back. Pain's gone abilities back uh no no more. sciatica at all no issues at all and.

everything is like much looser it's like. coming back so you find that more. effective than stem cells no I think. it's the combination of things it's so. it's very hard to tell like what is. actually working but when you add one. thing and then all a sudden you get a. significant response I'm assuming that. this new fit thing is having at least. responsible for I mean there's some sort. of synergistic effect right cuz I'm. using peptides I got this like I said I. got stem cells shot into it so this is.

like a and it takes a while for the stem. cells to take place I'm sure that's part. of it but then this new fit thing is. pretty significant so I've been doing. that quite a lot I've been doing that. four days a week and it's it's legit man. it's really legit I know Mike Tyson was. using that when he was preparing for the. fight with Jake Paul um so I know a lot. of other athletes yeah use it a lot of. people use it for rehabilitation. it's like it really reduces the amount. of time that you have to recover from.

like surgeries and injuries and stuff. like that what else are you using now as. part of your nothing new nothing new um. still bpc157. tv500 you know ipam moral and stuff like. that like the same stuff that I've. always used before this is the only. thing that I've done that's really new. this new fifth have you ever seen it. before no see if you can find like some. examples of uh I cuz like I said tys was. using it so it's no more time intensive.

because it's during training so you're. what you're doing is so I'm doing it for. rehabilitation so uh so this is what it. looks like so they slap these electrodes. to you so your muscles are just like. locked up depending on how much you can. tolerate you know so I I get them to. crank that [ __ ] up and when you're. doing it your muscles are like. completely flexed yeah through the whole. thing it's like it's kind of painful and. then while you're doing that you're. going through all these different.

exercises okay so they're like kind of. rehabilitative type exercises as opposed. to the actual workout that You' be doing. the for me what I'm doing is. rehabilitative but other people do it. for for hypertrophy and bodybuilders do. it apparently to like say if like you've. got like trap issues like you don't like. you need to like have one area where you. want to improve they're slapping it to. that area and then doing all these. exercises yeah there I an entrepreneur.

that I'm friends with asked me what I. thought about it as like a replacement. for exercise just a replacement yeah and. it was like such like a rich person. question like how do I not go to the gym. and still like go to the gym there was a. place in Boston when I lived there in. the the80s that had that I forget what. it was called but you would basically go. there and their claim was they would get. you you have a six-pack you get Jack and. all you have to do is lay there and lay. there and they put these electrodes on.

you just have you have you ever seen. those like uh ancient uh like belly. shaking things for like women to lose. body F like back in the 40s they just. sit there shaking back and forth no I'm. sure it's it's more effective than that. obviously which did nothing but I don't. think it's a replacement and I would. imagine I would speculate that the time. it would take to stimulate yourself if. it's for hyper tropy if you just worked. out more you'd probably get better.

results perhaps it's the the idea is. that it's enhancing you past what you. would normally get because you're in. this very unique state of constant. contraction yeah so there's no contract. relax contract relax you are just. contracted you're. just and then you're going through all. these exercises so you have to kind of. force your way through the exercises. while you're contracted it's kind of. difficult I think if you were injured it.

probably has a lot of viability but I. would be highly suspect of it being used. for like a guy trying to break a plateau. who's a veteran lifter for example right. right right yeah I would agree and no. bodybuilders I know attribute any. success to something like this right. well this guy was telling me that some. bodybuilders used a target areas that. they like of having difficulty like. maybe your calves like people have a. difficult time growing calf muscles most. uh biggest nuisance of a body part.

genetically it's C well at Jon Jones. that's the craziest thing yeah like one. of the best kickers in the sport no Cavs. they're like non-existent yeah it's so. genetically predetermined seemingly that. you know you'll have guys who are top. Olympia caliber bodybuilders and if they. haven't had Cals for their whole career. they don't suddenly develop them even. though they obviously know how to train. and then people will [ __ ] on them and. say you have no calves bro like learn. how of train it's like this is my job. like do you think I don't know how to do.

a [ __ ] calf race but they just won't. grow yeah like proportionally so they. lag behind significantly and it's pretty. obvious when somebody has a lagging body. part when they're on stage but it is. like a very very uh uh difficult area to. locally you know if you don't have the. genetics for it and the muscle bellies. it's very difficult to make weird a bad. looking calf look good it's weird. because you get to go like John. everything else is pretty big you know. he's got big chest big arms like and.

this is not to say don't train cevs cuz. people get all riled up about you know. skipping leg days and stuff well. especially for performance you know like. you certainly need strong calf muscles. for performance so you can make them. stronger they just don't necessarily get. aesthetically pleasing yeah and there's. definitely ways to optimally train them. that maybe not everyone does but in. general like it seems like if they're. lagging behind for you it's it's pretty. difficult to bring them up that's weird. what a weird body part yeah yeah it's.

like one of the worst offenders for is. there anything else like that any other. body parts that are like notoriously. difficult to train H that's a good. question. um probably there's probably something. that I'm not thinking of I don't know. neck maybe but that's pretty easy to. train actually it's just not many people. do it well neck you got to be careful. though was I you know I use an iron neck. which I really believe in it's like the.

only thing that I've ever done that's. strengthened my neck and not caus me any. neck problems whereas I think those. other ones like you know those things. where you put like the leather helmet on. with the chain you're doing I think. that's an unusual movement for your neck. and I think you could probably get away. with I know a lot of wrestlers and. including Mike Tyson who [ __ ] their. neck up from neck Bridges have you seen. theuh F1 drivers workout routines no. dude pull up oh they would have to have.

crazy necks oh yeah that's like what. they do for their training mostly. seemingly oh you have to they're just. sitting there with like a giant [ __ ]. Contraption on their head just. like like an iron neck yeah yeah but. it's like it seems even more intensive. like it's. uh let's see yeah but see what I'm. saying is they're not bending the neck. right so what they're doing is they're. forcing their muscles to stabilize the. neck as they're facing resistance. but what they're not doing is bending. all the way down and bending all the way.

up with weight which I think is what's. unusual and I think that's just a a. weird strain on the discs and with a lot. of guys um especially wrestlers where. they get strain from is like someone. grabbing them with a collar tie and like. pulling their head down and they get it. real low and then they're resisting that. you can [ __ ] your neck up that way or. fighting off a guillotine or a Dar choke. or or triangle where you're like really. [ __ ] up and distorted you're resisting.

against it you can [ __ ] your neck up so. what the iron neck does that I really. like is you're rotating and you can. adjust the resistance on the rotation so. you have this Halo you put it on your. head you pump it like a rebok pump and. it like form fits to your head you put a. chin strap on and then you back up and. so it's got a bungee cord so very stiff. rubber cord and as you're pulling back. you have a lot of resistance this way. and then you could rotate and then on. the rotation you could adjust the.

resistance you can make it more. difficult but you're never doing any of. this stuff and I think this stuff is. where at least from what I've seen. people get hurt especially neck Bridges. neck Bridges where your whole body I can. imagine and you're doing all this and. you're rolling like Tyson you ever seen. Tyson's Neck Bridge routine when he was. younger no well Tyson had a 20in neck. yeah 20 in you know how crazy that is. his neck would start at the top of his. head when he was young I mean he had a. [ __ ] massive neck but it's one of the. reasons why he was also so good at.

taking a punch because his head didn't. snap around like look how look at his. neck when he's young that neck is crazy. dude that's crazy NE parallel with his. head yeah like see look at this is what. he would do every day in training holy. [ __ ] that looks yeah rough but this. wrestler Bridge does strengthen your. neck but at a cost and I don't think. it's at a cost for everybody I think it. probably can be done safely but I think. you probably have to scale up very. slowly and very carefully and make sure.

that you have the supporting tissue and. strength around that to not compromise. your discs you know like when you're in. these reared positions like you're never. supposed to have all you know at least. bridging with like 60% of your weight. sideways on your neck like this and then. roll it over the side then roll it over. the side while you're putting all the. weight on the back of your head or on. your forehead that's just crazy that's. yeah oh yeah I would uh that looked. [ __ ] sketch dude well Mike had to get.

neck surgery yoel Romero like I said had. his whole neck fused his neck doesn't. ever see him run no but it probably. looks hilarious see find the video of. yel Romero sprinting it's nuts his neck. doesn't move it's like. this like a robot like a Terminator but. it's also why yoel can take crazy. punishment like yoel got head kicked. once by I think it was Derrick Brunson. head kicked him and he didn't even move. like go get him. run so his neck doesn't move his entire. neck is completely fused and he has this.

giant scar on the back of his. neck he's a freak though dude did you. ever get the impression that if he just. like threw himself into the fire more in. fights he probably would have won a lot. more I don't know I don't know if you. can keep that kind of muscle mass and. have the kind of cardio that you need to. throw yourself into the fire more cuz it. was always it was kind of hard to tell. if he was Gass sometimes and then he. would all of a sudden burst out exactly. like that Costa Romero fight is still to.

this day one of my favorite fights ever. and I I don't know man like it almost a. lot of the Romero fights it seems like. if he just started swinging and going in. there that he might be able to take out. a lot of dudes that he just let go to. decision perhaps but you have to like. know how much gas you have in the tank. and only he knows and that style that he. has is a style for someone who's very. explosive it's very smart cuz you don't. just explode and keep going you won't. last you last two minutes and then.

you'll be dead so what he does is like. kind he looks like so relaxed and then. he explodes on you and when he explodes. on people they don't see it coming. because he's lulled you into this false. sense of security by this slower speed. that he moves at like did you ever see. his knockout of Chris. Weidman probably that's the perfect. example of that he caught Chris Weidman. with a flying knee as Chris W was coming. in for a Tak down he just like lulled. him into like this is the speed we're. moving at we're going to move at this. speed this is how we're fighting oh I'm. dodging your punches oh I'm DOD and then.

out of nowhere bam he hits him with his. flying knee and just destroys his head I. mean it was one of the most brutal watch. this so see how he like moves boom Oh my. God yeah I mean literally his whole body. F back it up against we could see that. one more. time like before it. happens so they're fighting he's got him. on the ground. oh so here it is so you see as he moves. he's not boom he just leaps into him.

this is like a highlight thing it's not. showing the the whole exchange but in. the fight you know weidman's very. aggressive very tough and you know. pushing a pace trying to get the. takedowns Wyman likes to push a strong. pace and really wear on guys and Y well. just would like kind of like move and. relax and then out of nowhere he would. just blow on you and that's what he did. with adna too like that was a very. boring fight cuz [ __ ] like I see your. [ __ ] game I'm going to stay out here. and wait for you to charge in on me I'm.

going to Counterattack and yel was like. come on come fight me and he's like uh I. know what you're doing because he he. exploded one time and caught Izzy with a. left hand like a powerful left hand. Izzy's like oh Jesus Christ this guy. moves so [ __ ] fast when he wants to. but he can't really fight like that for. five minutes for five rounds he can't. really just keep exploding that's like. the problem with a guy like Conor. McGregor like Conor McGregor was Lethal. for one or two rounds but then you get. into the third fourth and fifth it's. there's so much fast twitch muscle fiber.

engagement there's so much explosion. it's like constant sprinting yeah has he. ever knocked out a guy after round two. even that's a good question I don't know. I mean he certainly could right I mean. he's not out of shape I remember what. what you're saying though it was like. the later rounds it was so blatant he. was Gast well he was so fast in the. first couple of rounds that was the. thing it's like if he didn't [ __ ]. tune you up in those first couple rounds. if you were like Nate Diaz some.

indestructible zombie and then you get. into the later rounds and you're [ __ ]. tired like how is this guy still here. and then Nate is just like slapping you. and beating you up and Nate can push. that 50% Pace forever yeah him and his. brother were very good at that they. didn't really explode they just would. like touch you they just touch you all. the time and you can't breathe because. you don't have the time to relax right. so if he's constantly hitting you with. punches that aren't that hard you're. like cuz you're always like cuz you. don't know if these punches are going to.

be hard and then you occasionally would. mix them up with like really hard shots. and so you always have to be ready for. the hard shot so you never get to. breathe you never get to relax so you're. constantly on edge and you you're just. getting worn out and he's relaxed. because he's just hitting you and. touching you and he's talking [ __ ] to. you what [ __ ] what [ __ ] what's going. on [ __ ] and he keep hitting you this. like 50% like literally like this not. really trying to hurt you at all just. just is constantly making you tense up. and just drain your gas tank no they uh.

seem Relentless oh dude well his cardio. Nick Diaz especially cardio was Insanity. he swam back from Alcatraz he did it on. five different occasions in the ocean. with great white sharks SW what is it. like a mile and a half or something like. that in the [ __ ] freezing cold. Pacific Northwest ocean I don't know but. how far is alcatra how far is the swim. they used to think you couldn't do it. they used to think no one could survive. it so that's why they put Al alcatra.

there like put a prison out there. they're [ __ ] but a couple of guys did. escape and they don't know what happened. to them like they found their clothes at. the beach and there's speculation that. at least one guy survived it but how are. you going to. train you can't train to swim and then. you're going to just swim for a mile and. a half yeah you're not going to make it. I don't know I don't what's cardio. regimens in prison I would have no idea. I mean you could do cardio but you're. not going to recreate swimming without. swimming the resistance the current like.

all of it and temperature regulation. yeah you're you're just not going to be. able to recreate that unless you're. doing it they're not going to let you. practice like guys just going to do laps. around alcatra like get the [ __ ] out of. here how far is it Jamie and mile and a. half so a mile and a half in the [ __ ]. ocean with sharks when was this that. these prisoners escaped like was this. decades ago was that CL would movie. escape from alcatra did you see it no no. it was a movie about the actual escape.

from alcatra these guys had made a. papier-mâché model of their face and. like put it like with put some pillows. and [ __ ] and threw a blanket over it and. the guards when they would go to check. thought these guys were still in their. bed meanwhile they had tunneled a hole. through the wall of the of the uh of the. cell 1979 film Escape from Alcatraz. presented inconclusive conclusions what. does that mean on one of the islands. enduring Mysteries told the true story. of three men Frank Morris and the. brothers Clarence and John algen Al.

angen uh who made it out of the prison. in June of 1962 were never seen again. nobody knows for sure whether they made. good on their escape or drowned in the. attempt true stories like that and. others embellished Tales of man-eating. sharks and killer currents spread by. prison guards as a deterrent contributed. to the mythology of unassailable alcatra. and the impossible. swim well it's definitely not impossible. cuz Nick Diaz done it [ __ ] times but. people do it all the time now you know. it's like an endurance thing that people.

constantly do now someone did a 979. times this guy whoa he does it monthly. oh my God what a [ __ ] psycho 979. times that is rolling the dice on sharks. bro and what happens when. you like Alcatraz is uh still operating. no no okay no it wasn't operating oh. it's like a tourist attraction right. yeah when was a kid we went to visit it. and with school they took when I lived. in San Francisco they took us to alcatra.

field trip it was pretty cool you get to. be in these prisons where all these. people used to get it's very weird why. did it shut down I don't know it's a. good question why' they shut Alat down. maybe when they figured out people could. swim it that would be good reason yeah I. mean it's not unable it's got to take a. long time though like how in a mile and. a half in the ocean how long does that. take some people think it was because. those guys got away but it was because. it was too expensive to continue operate.

that makes sense right you got to get. all the supplies and out there by boat. by ferry I don't even think they had. that many prisoners there H like you. know but they had like super Dangerous. Ones there right wasn't that the whole. idea it was all. murderers I think it was like a like. super maximum security like for the. biggest psychos they put them on alcatra. yeah what was that movie I think Sean. connory movie as well Rock yeah yeah. that's about that right yeah I think. yeah yeah I think that was about it too.

yeah but you know guys who have extreme. cardio like that that's a real weapon. like guy like power is important in the. well it's always important but cardio is. one of the most important things because. you just when you get tired you don't. think right you don't have you don't. make good decisions and then you also. you you just you're just not as. effective you're you're not going to. scramble out of positions you're going. to relax a little try to catch your. breath like if you get taken down you're.

not going to like completely exert Chuck. Lidell said this to me once he said when. guys get taken down they accept the. takedown and the thing is they get taken. down and then they try to work their way. back up to their feet he goes I never. did that when I got taken down the. moment my back touched the ground it was. like hot lava and I just exploded. immediately I never let them hold me and. that was the key to never getting taken. down and held down is that the moment. he's a really good wrestler as well. obviously but the moment someone would. take him down he would never accept it.

he would just some guys accept it like. [ __ ] I got to take it down all right you. know overhook underhook you know like. control posture work my full guard try. to get back up try to buy time where I. have enough energy to escape and figure. out am I going to try to sweep him am I. going to you know am I going to try to. Pummel and and try to get back up to my. feet am I GNA try to scoot back to the. cage bunch of different strategies to. try to get back up but the thing is like. when you're tired you'll accept that. takedown yeah and when you see guys.

accept the takedown and just pull full. guard like that guy's [ __ ] tired you. know it was like the recent uh Ola fight. it was like tough to watch some of the. parts where it was just like oh it's you. know you're on the ground now and you're. [ __ ] yeah yeah well that fight was. crazy huh yeah Michael Chandler almost. [ __ ] had him in that fifth round. almost had him I mean what a Relentless. [ __ ] that guy is yeah man he's. getting his ass kick for four rounds and. then finally almost [ __ ] him up yeah.

yeah it's uh crazy when it comes down to. like you know do or die mode how many. times it almost turns around MH well. it's also crazy that a guy like him who. is pretty heavily muscled and is just. such a [ __ ] training machine that he. has that ultimate gas tank even in the. fifth round just explode like in the. fifth round he was going hard which is. why I always thought he was a super. dangerous fight for Connor yeah he. almost seems like a better cardio like. Shawn Sher or something right well sha.

Sherk was one of the first guys who. really did have crazy cardio did he I. thought I thought he was so for the time. okay he was a fitness fanatic like a. conditioning fanatic but like so was um. there's a few guys like Rich Franklin. was like a fitness fanatic too like they. dedicated a significant amount of their. time just to strength and conditioning. so they had this like ultimate gas tank. m but like with Rich Franklin the. problem was his skill level was never.

going to compete with Anderson Silva. Anderson Silva was just a god at the. time I mean in his prime and he was like. 34 years old he was [ __ ] Unstoppable. he was athleticism differential between. everyone and him was like obscene it was. skill too it's like he had the ability. to let punches get right here and he. would just move his head slightly and. then Pang crack you was you all your. momentum is coming in and he would. counter you and he was just so skillful.

and he was like a computer he would the. first minute of the round first fight. like first round of the fight you would. see him moving around and just like. trying things on you and just sort of. downloading your movements and what. you're capable of he would see you swing. like okay I got that okay I'll do a. little of this I'll kick him a couple of. times and then by the end of the round. he's like okay [ __ ] and then. you'd see him like like the yo comedy. fight is a great example that by the end. of the first round he head kicks Okami. and drops him he just starts tuning him.

up he just he gets he gets what you can. do he's like you can't do what I do and. then he just starts turning it on yeah. some of those fights back in the day. just felt like a taking time bomb for. whoever he was facing yeah people forget. the thing about Fighters when they fight. past their Prime is you get these guys. like Anderson that fight into their 40s. and you remember them from their their. later fights you don't remember them. when they were Unstoppable like when. Anderson was in his prime he's one of. the greatest Fighters that's ever lived. oh yeah for sure have you seen that uh.

UFC interview where they like. accidentally showed I think it was like. HGH in the background he opened his. fridge what are you eating oh I'm eating. growth yeah he's popped for some dumb. [ __ ] too if I recall correctly well did. you ever see his uh coach his. weightlifting coach probably when I was. looking into it but I'm assuming he. yolked 65 years years old and built like. yel Romero oh my God see if you can find. Anderson Silva's uh strength and.

conditioning coach I mean there was no. way there's just no way that guy knows. what to take yeah there's no way there's. no he was in his 60s [ __ ] jacked I. mean just super jacked like that's him. oh Jesus yeah look at Anderson's face. it's a perfect picture. I mean look at that dude that dude's in. his 60s mean mugging. yeah tainted supplements likely cause a.

failed test not what's in my fridge look. at this look at the size of that guy in. his 60s so obviously he knows what to. take yeah that guy knows some stuff so. Chandler you said good match for Connor. is that ever happening or I don't know. if Connor is ever going to fight again. what's happening with his uh he just got. like the civil suit yeah or what ever. and he's being dropped by all his. companies or something yeah um you know.

I don't know the real details of that. case I know his version of it and her. version of it and what played out in the. court but the the reality is that guy's. partying and he's partying real hard and. he talked about it in the in the court. case you know he's talking about cocaine. like there that was the whole thing. we're all doing cocaine and we're. [ __ ] dude some of his interviews you. can tell he is out of it allegedly he. seems at least excited dude have you. seen the Jake jayen Hall and Connor.

interview for roadh house and he's just. [ __ ] tweaking the whole time he seems. like he's TW Jake's just like I can't I. can't imagine he wasn't thinking what. are you doing dude right yeah right you. know was funny Shane Gillis has a great. bit about Conor McGregor in roadh house. he goes Conor McGregor basically played. a coked out Conor McGregor in. Roadhouse and Shane does like a Conor. impression so it's [ __ ] hilarious. like a I mean he's he likes Coke oh yeah. but I think there's another issue to.

talk about and that is that. um a lot of Fighters when they've. sustained a significant amount of damage. over the course of their career and. there's no way to not get that right I. mean we all we've all seen Connor get. beat up and knocked out we've seen. Conor's uh sparring footage he spars pro. boxers he's sparring Elite Fighters. you're getting hit in the head a lot and. a lot of Fighters especially towards the. end of their career turn to drugs and I.

think there's probably like a constant. state of discomfort that they live in. where their dopamine levels are all. [ __ ] up their their cortisol levels. are all [ __ ] up their their body's. just you're not supposed to get punched. in the head a thousand times a year it's. just not supposed to happen and that's. the reality of consistent training so if. you think about consistent training like. say you and me are sparring and we meet. meet at the gym uh three times a week. and we Spar three times a week and let's. say we Spar five rounds three times a.

week five rounds of five minutes. each we might you might hit me 15 20. times a round and then we're doing that. three times a week and we're doing that. over and over and over again and it's. not even this is a thing people say oh. you Spar light sure sure sparring light. is important but. subconcussive trauma to the Head is what. causes soccer players to get CTE now. soccer players are getting CTE from a.

soccer ball I've bounced a soccer ball I. played soccer when I was a kid that. doesn't hurt but that that thump that's. giving you CTE people who ride jet skis. get CTE wow do you know that I didn't my. friend Mark Gordon who is an expert in. traumatic brain injury and he um works. at the Wounded Warrior Foundation I. think he works with them but he work oh. uh angel warrior found Foundation he. works with uh a lot of veterans that. suffer from CTE and uses a lot of.

hormone replacement to help them because. a lot of it is damage to the pituitary. gland your endocrine system gets [ __ ]. up from you know breaches you know. explosions blown up and IEDs all those. kind of things like those guys are. [ __ ] like the inside of their brain is. [ __ ] and there's a bunch of different. therapies they apply to that but the. bottom line is that it's not just. getting knocked out it's just getting. thumped a lot just thumped in train so. if we're sparring you know we're friends. if we were sparring I wouldn't hit you.

hard I'd hit you like that I wouldn't I. wouldn't try to kill you I hit you like. that but that over and over again you're. gonna get brain damage fact no if ANS or. butts about it you're going to get brain. damage and if you're doing that over the. course of a 10 15-year career think. about all those camps all those rounds. all those times you sparred and not just. Spar that way how many collisions I've. been how many times I've been collided.

with doing Jiu-Jitsu you accidentally. butt heads you accidentally take a knee. to the head you accidentally take an. elbow to the head it's constant so. you've got consistent trauma to your. [ __ ] Dome over and over and over. again and then you get a little bit of. coke little bit of coke and you feeling. good. again I I bet I bet you know you get. addicted to it and the obviously likes. extreme things right which is why he's. such a great fighter they're wild people. it's why Jon Jones Like Cocaine too.

they're [ __ ] wild people they want to. fight you know they want to fight in a. cage for a living that's how they. literally feed themselves by beating the. [ __ ] out of skilled people yeah I can. imagine something like the brain cell. death that literally occurs could almost. result in a Perpetual state of you now. need drugs to achieve like Baseline even. to feel normal there's a drug I didn't. mention earlier but it's worth. mentioning you said what's not being. tested for that's useful in Fighters.

something called cerebral Len is used to. offset brain damage after fights and not. being tested for by W yet and how does. it work uh it's like one of the only. sources of active ngf and bdnf that you. can actually get an effect out of. seemingly so like brain drived uh forget. what the NF sents were but it's. something that could be um basically uh. grow new brain cells essentially whoa.

yeah or offset deterioration as well. during after fighting why would you not. let people take that that seems like. that should be standard that should be. given to everybody like vitamins yeah. yeah it's uh the pipeline of it getting. through a clinical like getting a. clinical application it's still in. experimental phases so I could see why. it hasn't been getting widespread. recognition and for all we know it's not. going to prove to be super effective but. at least anecdotally from people I know. who've used it highly effective for.

neurogenesis yeah what what about. somebody who doesn't have brain damage. just wants to get really smart yeah yeah. tough call I think that might work right. yeah a lot of people even nowadays are. exposing themselves to things that make. them stupider too so it might even. become you know an adjunct kind of like. preventative therapy right yeah sure and. it's like sometimes not even. purposefully that you're doing things. that make you stupider it's just like. like what kind of things would you. describe I don't know like if you have. kids you're never getting good sleep or. you're uh somebody who's constantly on.

stimulant which you could argue is you. know bad lifestyle or whatever but you. know there's certain things that are. going to kill brain cells and just Aging. in general have you seen the studies on. Creatine and performance with uh sleep. deprivation very interesting another. thing that not being tested for which I. don't think it should be but like. creatine at adequate doses interestingly. for years we've all been told take your. five grams and you're good but what's. often not talked about is the fact that.

that dosage is not going to be WID. spread the optimal one for every single. person you will likely achieve muscle. saturation with that dose but it doesn't. mean you're going to get the full sweet. of benefits depending on your genetics. how much you weigh muscle mass. metabolism so five grams for 140 lb. person versus a 240 yeah so like some. Studies have found uh increased benefits. up to like 20 G a day whoa yeah and if. your GI can tolerate it like could be. worth trying to see if you get an effect.

out of you know 10 gr and then Elevate. from there do you take it oh yeah I. taken gummy form that's hard to get an. adequate dose though how is that why. well how many gummies do you need to. take to get five I take six it says take. three i' take six well let's let's see. what the dose is go to uh try create. yeah I take those two it's 1.5 per gummy. I think okay so I'm taking seven eight. so some of the most recent studies are. in like elderly women taking 20 grams W. I'll start doing that start with like 10.

see if you're tolerates I have no. problem with creatine it used to I used. to think it made my face fat but I think. I was just eating too much one of the. problems with gummies is often times. they're less likely to meet label claims. so oh really I don't know if that's like. a third party rigorously tested product. or not butting something to be cautious. of right and then there's two types. right there's creatine monohydrate and. then there's another the create what is. the other one there's different formats. but some are like HCL is essentially.

just bound to um HCL instead of. monohydrate which could be more. tolerable for somebody who gets GI. distress from. monohydrate thought to be you know water. solubility and other things but in. general monohydrate is the one that has. the most literature supporting it is. tried and true it's cheaper easier to. access isn't there some other stuff H. something that you take in combination. with. betane HCL. maybe hmn what the hell hmb hmb yeah.

that's it that's it what is that that's. uh I believe a metabolite of Lucine. which is like very uh basically. stimulates mtor so could be useful for I. think people who are not getting a. sufficient amount of protein in their. diet and need something to stimulate. mtor for adequate muscle protein. synthesis so like I don't know older. people who don't get enough protein for. example right it has shown efficacy it's. just the situations and contextually.

where it is the most effective is going. to be somebody who is not eating enough. protein but it's like how many people. are eating enough protein as well right. yeah know it's some Studies have found. that you know upwards of one gram per. pound of body weight per day could be. beneficial and most people aren't. getting that so my diet is almost. entirely protein yeah yeah my diet is. mostly it's pretty [ __ ] hard to get. your body weight and protein per day if. you're not supplementing with protein. you're just eating meat and like animal.

Drive sources and then even harder if. you're a vegetarian too if you're just. eating meat and animal derived sources. it's hard for I think for a lot of. people to get high quality just like if. you're going to eat over I don't know a. pound and a half to two pounds of meat a. day like you could hit your needs pretty. easily oh I do that easy yeah but that's. not like a typical person I would say. that's most most of my meals are meat. okay like my breakfast today I ate like. a pound of elk yeah that was my. breakfast so what I do is I meal prep.

for the week on Sunday so I'll take out. of my freezer I take a bunch of elk. steaks and uh I put them on the. Trager um I slow cook them at like. 265° until I get them to the proper. internal temperature and then I sear. them I cut them up and then I put them. in like a glass container and put them. in my refrigerator and then I pull it. out whenever I want to eat so you have. how much meat per day. multiple pounds multiple cooked weight. yeah yeah yeah wow yeah I probably at.

least 3 lbs of meat A Day H yeah yeah. you might be getting I forget how many. pounds of meat you need to saturate. creatine stores or at least the. equivalent to five grams but you'd. probably still benefit from trying. supplementing more I do take those. gummies like I said I take six of those. a day but maybe I'm I get the powder bro. I'm going to take 20 gummies see what. happens we see what happens half your. calories gummies and rest meat yeah. let's see what's up they don't seem to. make you uh they don't they don't upset. my stomach at all it makes you wonder if.

there's actually creatine in it then wow. I've never had uh upset stomach from. creatine I've taken in the past but I'm. taking it now more consistently than. I've ever taken it before cuz with the. gummies it's so easy I keep it in the. gym I just bust it open yeah eat some of. them yeah yeah it's they taste good too. one of the most slept on supplements for. sure I think it kind of got a I don't. know like not as much attention as it. deserves maybe more recently it's gotten. a bit more hype because of some of the. literature around its cognitive effects.

and whatnot but it's like super useful. for a myriad of things what is the. mechanism for it giving you a cognitive. uh enhancing benefit I think it's. thought to be like local energy. production in the brain so some people. genetically or as they age or what have. you have deficiencies in the capacity to. produce ATP and if you can like backfill. it with like a readily available source. of phosphor creatine then you could. basically get it to Baseline of where it.

should be it makes you wonder like. people that are on a vegan diet like. what what are their creatine levels like. oh not good enough for sure there's no. way right oh it's impossible even if. you're somebody who eats a lot of meat. you might think you're good but unless. you're eating multiple pounds a day it's. unlikely that you've saturated stores. well that's like one of the more. Insidious things about these people that. are prizers who was trying to get people. to become vegan and they'll one of the.

things that they say is that it'll. improve your athletic performance which. is like straight horseshit like I don't. know of any Elite athlete at the very. top of any sport that's a vegan do you. no I know some ifbb pros who are vegan. but they do a lot to optimize their. diets that requires like special protein. supplements and this and that and amount. of steroids yeah a lot of them are dope. too yeah that helps yeah there are.

definitely. successful uh like people who Thrive I. think doing vegan diets but often times. it is more meticulous in the planning. needed to like actually make it so you. could thrive on it as opposed to like if. you're eating enough red meat and what. not like you sort of you can be stupid. and still cover your bases essentially. right yeah so the difference between uh. one thing is like if someone say well a. pound of broccoli will equal you know x.

amount of steak in terms of the amount. of protein that's but it's not the same. bioavailability yeah like the amino acid. composition is not going to be the same. and it might not even stimulate muscle. protein synthesis to the capacity that. is needed to actually be anabolic so. like some vegans I would assume might. actually benefit from supplementing with. like essential amino acids on top of. their meal just cuz they're not hitting. a loosing threshold right so and that's. where like an hmb also could maybe be.

have use as well and is creatine is it. sourced in a vegan way or is is any of. it derived from animal sources that's a. good question I'm not sure but if you. can make testosterone from soy right I. think you could probably get pretty. crazy what they can synthesize oh dude. yeah you would never think that's where. you get it from right yeah well it just. takes so many brilliant people working. in so many different capacities to. create like all the stuff that we have.

available right now yeah like some dude. like took a [ __ ] yam and was like hey. these chemicals look similar to these. chemicals that we like make in our balls. like let's tweak it and like make it. let's sell it to people as testosterone. yeah I don't even know and it works yeah. that's what's nuts it's like super. effective yeah yeah it's very strange. that it's also kind of derided. that like people like look down upon it. like why would you look down upon. anything especially as you're an older. person why would you look down upon.

anything it's going to make you feel. better yeah no I think uh more awareness. is coming to it but also in women for. HRT which is you could argue even more. of a necessity than at least with men a. lot can maintain residual hormone. production to some capacity that could. sustain good health longterm but with. women once you hit menopause like you. are guaranteed to have like a complete. cessation of estrogen and progesterone. production to where you are guaranteed.

putting your brain and heart in danger. if you don't replace those hormones wow. yeah so it's almost like I don't know. like unwinding some of the shitty. information that was put out decades ago. on that's the thing for for women there. was a lot of shitty information put out. about hormone replacement yeah yeah it's. uh I think it was the Women's Health. Initiative they had some study that. showed like. relative risk increase in breast cancer. or something to the tune of some. negligible insignificant amount and they.

were also using synthetic drugs as. opposed to bioidentical so it' be like. the equivalent of me putting you on Deca. and then being like oh well you got. cancer so testosterone sucks right which. is [ __ ] ridiculous so they were using. like horse piss derived estrogens or. something and then like some shitty. progest and determining oh HRT is bad. because of some also relatively. insignificant increase in cancer risk. which at least to date in bioidentical.

hormones we have not seen play out and. the upside far outweighs the risk. seemingly that we can see right now it's. just not really permeated the uh I don't. know like masses yet well think about. how many [ __ ] people on testosterone. replacement therapy and how few of them. you know that have problems I don't know. of anybody that has a problem with it I. know so many people that have been. enhanced by it and they feel so much. better they have so much more energy. more life yeah yeah it's uh super.

impactful and for for women too like no. more hot flashes while you're sleeping. your bones aren't going to degrade at. the same rate like your brain is not. like Alzheimer's rates in women are like. twox that of men and it's really of all. it's definitely intertwined with menla. shutting off their hormones wow yeah. there's so much [ __ ] information out. there. that's what's [ __ ] when you hear about. studies that like you know when when the. sugar industry fund did those studies to.

demonize saturated fat because they were. trying to say the saturated fat was. causing heart attacks and not sugar when. you see about and I think they only paid. them like $50,000 or something crazy so. 1960s you know don't know that well I. didn't know it was 50 Grand I'm pretty. sure I'm pretty sure it's like that's. [ __ ] up $50,000 and it ruined. everybody not that if it was a bigger. amount of money it would be fine but I. mean it's just. sense if they paid him 50 million You'. be like well you know you're unethical. but hey if somebody offered me 50.

million who knows what I would do no. $50,000 and these [ __ ] ruined. people for decades and wanted a Porsche. and just ruined like the [ __ ] yeah. food pyramid well it's like they've. they' here it is yep there it is 50. years ago sugar industry quietly paid. scientist they wound up paying. approximately $50,000 in today's dollars. for the research so he's even less than. $50,000 so it's $50,000 today so 50. years ago that's probably 10 grand yeah. they paid them 10 grand and these.

[ __ ] ruined everyone's Health. yeah got people taking. margarine Brut being scared of butter. and eggs and and meat damn dude crazy. yeah so your diet is just meat yeah. mostly what about fruit I eat fruit yeah. yeah I love fruit CU you've been like. cycling back and forth between I I like. fruit before I work out I like fruit. after I workout sometimes you know I. like fruit but I very rarely eat. vegetables unless I want to yeah like if.

some asparagus and it's looking good. I'll have some asparagus you know what I. mean like if I see some brussel sprouts. I eat it for Taste sort of like I think. of it like pasta except not as bad for. you I think of it was like oh that would. probably taste good i' like to eat some. of that I don't think of it as like this. is like nutrition and fuel yeah so when. I when I eat for nutrition and fuel it's. eggs and steak Yeah that's 90. plus% of my diet have you been following. the uh boxing gold medal debacle with.

that like first of all XY chromosone. case closed yeah if you have a [ __ ]. and this is what the enhanced game wants. to do so the enhanced games you know. they're developing this Olympic style. event and they're they're spending a lot. of money on it they have a lot of big. investors and they're going to give real. prizes like a million dollars if you win. the gold medal instead of zero which is. what the Olympics gives and I asked them. I'm like how are you gonna address like. trans athletes and they said we think. we're gonna do.

chromosomes but yeah yeah which is. really the only way to do it politically. correct yeah you know you don't say this. is not a woman you say what what are. your chromosome weget ma'am what are you. chromosones XY ma'am you got to be in. the XY box go over there but I identify. as a. woman get over there get over there. apparently they used to do sex testing. in the Olympics in the '90s I believe. they stopped doing it and then since. then it's been like these weird Nuance. scenarios with oh is your testosterone.

level looking male or whatever and you. know it's uh it gets nuanced with the. type of like disorder you have because. some are far more advantageous than. others and if this medical report that. was leaked of this boxer is true it's. basically the worst offender of the. disorders you could have cuz it's. basically like a Alpha reductase. deficiency is basically just depriving. your body of DHT but if you have. internal testes making testosterone you.

still have the full functional capacity. of a male to build muscle and bone and. all the psychoactive effects and all. that so yeah lung size heart size now to. be determined which I think that that. athlete should go get the testing to. actually disprove it if it was true or. if it wasn't true but they would have. already done that yeah where smoke. there's fire you know I just I think if. too many people are calling you a man. like there's this one case of uh there.

was that Runner who castania right so. that's a very different thing no that. was like potentially the same thing. really yeah so XY chromosome uh had. internal testes XY chromosomes five. Alpha reductase deficiency and had the. testosterone levels of a male because of. the internal testes oh Jes and you might. grow up thinking that you are female. because you haven't had adequate sexual. differentiation and maturation from the. lack of DHT so it's almost like the. equivalent to putting a kid at Birth on.

like a mega do of finasteride or. dutasteride and wiping out their DHT oh. wow so they still grow up with male. level muscle development from the. testosterone but no mascul not. sufficient masculinization to. differentiate you and mature you. completely from the DHT well let's see. uh what is uh the the latest on this so. let's find out what is the leaked story. on this boxer and uh find out like like.

has anybody analyzed this is there any. like conclusion that anybody's drawn or. I don't think so I think it's still is. the leaked report legit or not and story. I could find this is November 6th. confirms o Olympic boxing champion. launching legal action over Medical allg. but this is just about the legal no no I. was looking for any story about it. having updated information this was the. the most recent story was written then. anything else was from October where it. was saying that she was she's also. saddened by the abuse she has received.

do you think they go back and edit this. if it turns out she's a man he's. saddened by the abuse that he's received. it was the it was about the the claims. that the they were stripped of their. title or the gold medal that's well. that's not true no they haven't been. stripped so if they're suing over that. that they they can actually win that. lawsuit oh they're suing over something. in the French media because they've. gotten um and I feel like the Olympic. Committee probably has to lean into you. know the whole politically correct angle. of it too to not get the scrutiny of you.

let this person punch women in the head. of course of course yeah yeah she'd. never fa a punch like this yeah so what. have all sports too [ __ ] fighting. people yeah it's pretty crazy but so. what is the leaked report Jamie find out. what the leaked report excuse me the. leaked report of this person is that's. what that's what this has to do with I. think I understand what it has to do. with it but find out what the actual. leak report is like what is the leak. report. um oh Jesus I think it was the uh.

basically assessment of internal. testicle yeah okay French journalist but. it's been there's been multiple studies. or multiple uh articles written saying. that this person has XY chromosomes that. was uh a supposed failed gender. eligibility test from some organization. that yeah international boxing. Association did not allow her to. participate in 2023 World Championships. after she failed gender eligibility test. but the international Olympic Committee. did authorize her Presence at Paris 2024.

but here's the thing like is this when. when they say the international Olympic. Committee did authorize what do they by. what yeah this is the crazy thing is. apparently their criteria was that you. are female on your passport oh but it's. like you know if you look female at. Birth you easily could if you have this. disorder. so didn't Dylan moany change their. passport to a female oh probably I don't. know did they find out can you change.

your passport to female if you're. transgender I think you. can I I don't know if Dylan mulany did. it that's a low barrier too like you. just have like a [ __ ] ID piece that. says you're female therefore we're going. to ignore testies yeah like what the. [ __ ] the whole thing is so crazy this. this is one of the weirder aspect and. the reason why people harp on it so much. why is everybody so obsessed with trans. because this is why because it's bizarre. no medical documentation you do not need. to provide medical documentation to.

change your gender marker so this is for. on US Passport you can select M for male. f for female or X for unspecified or. another gender identity so you can have. X on your passport I think I'm going to. get that uh so no medical documentary so. I could be a female I could just say I'm. a female show up with a full beard. genetic marker you select does need to. match your gender on your citizenship. evidence or photo ID see the reason why. this works is I don't know what's going.

on inside you I don't know how you feel. I I'm I could be arrogant and. completely not compassionate and I could. just decide that you're just full of. [ __ ] you're a guy or you could be in. agony going through life feeling like a. woman and not understanding why you have. a DI. I think there's that too but like I. talked about in my comedy special. perverts disappeared like the flu during.

covid like they don't exist anymore like. a guy in a dress who gets a heart on. going into the women's room is a woman. now they used to be psychos it used to. be like Norman Bates in the movie Psycho. dressed up like his mom Silence of the. Lambs it puts the lotion in the basket. it was it was like there if you wanted. to make someone in a movie scarier you. put them in a dress yeah he took a. psycho killer you made him dress like a. woman like oh this guy's [ __ ] crazy. and then somewhere we just decided that.

doesn't exist anymore and so there's no. perverts and so anyone who just says. they're a woman gets to go in the. women's room go in the women's Locker. playing women's sports and you're. completely ignoring this subset of. society that has always been [ __ ]. terrifying to people creepy guys who. dress up like women who pretend to be. women are just perverts they just want. to sneak around women's room and smell. their [ __ ] there's people that are out. of their mind and you've given them a. hall pass yeah yeah like I could.

empathize with somebody who didn't know. and then would became aware of it and. then once they became aware of it they. stopped competing it would suck yes for. everyone involved obviously but like I. could understand like how shitty of a. predicament that is yes but it's like. the onus is on you once you've been. assessed to compete anymore and to like. confirm what the [ __ ] is going on yeah. go fight guys yeah and it's like even if. you're at a disadvantage like well it.

doesn't mean you fight girls at your. advantage exactly yeah if you were a. disadvantage fighting guys you probably. shouldn't be fighting yeah like how many. girls are transitioning and then. fighting men or competing against men. zero well also here's the other argument. there is a spectrum right so there are. guys with naturally lower testosterone. than a guys like say yel Romero yel. Romero has an advantage over almost. everybody you know when it comes to like. genetics he's just like a [ __ ]. specimen from God right so you have that.

which is the rarest of rare right and. then you have a guy like you know fill. in the blank there's like a bunch of. fighters in the UFC I don't want to. disparage anybody but there's a bunch of. guys you look at them you're like that's. not a specimen but super tough super. technical Works real hard very. intelligent in their approach and they. manag to fight really well but if they. go up against a guy who's just a freak. just a physical freak and that guy works. just as hard and is just as intelligent. and just as methodical in their training. they're going to have an advantage just.

a natural god-given Advantage just the. universe has kissed them with genetics. and those people exist man and so you. can't say well then that guy should be. able to fight women now because he can't. beat yo rero like that's stupid yeah. that's [ __ ] stupid and it's also. you're not protecting women I thought. that the left was all about protecting. women like this was the whole thing. about progressives protect people that. are like not as safe like I don't. generally worry about women raping me.

never never in my life have I been in a. bar go boy I hope some woman doesn't try. to rape me I hope some woman doesn't try. to roof me and get my dick hard and like. no one ever thinks that way but women. walk through life worrying about getting. roofied or getting raped or getting. dragged into an Alleyway they worry. about that guys don't worry about that. it's it's just a completely different. Dynamic so when you're comparing like. trans this and trans that like there's.

not a guy I've ever talked to in my life. that. doesn't that is even remotely concerned. with a trans man going into the men's. room yeah I don't give a [ __ ] if like. what's that person that was Chaz Bono. Chaz Bono Sunny Bono's daughter that. became a man mhm Chaz can come into the. men's room I don't give a [ __ ] it. doesn't even freak me out at all if Chaz. is in the men's room and I have a.

2-year-old son with me that I have to. take into the bathroom go to the. bathroom I'm not worried about Chaz Bono. but I am worried about a pervert if I if. I was a guy and um I uh had uh a. daughter and she was like 10 years old. and she went into the women's room and. then I saw a man with a [ __ ] 5:00. shadow and a wig on go into the bathroom. behind her and I couldn't go in the men. I couldn't go in the women's room and. see what's going on I go I don't know. that might just be a really kind person.

who identifies as a woman that happens. to have a beard or it could be a. complete [ __ ] psycho which are real. things and by being this compassionate. person I'm supposed to ignore the the. reality of psychos yeah that's crazy. yeah this is where it becomes like a. cult like this is where it becomes like. you're indoctrinated into this very. rigid ideology that you can't stray from. at all and if you do you're you're cast. out of the Kingdom forever you're you're. a heretic you're a terrible person yeah.

[ __ ] up man it's uh I don't really. know even the the scrutiny on it I don't. really know how. they don't acknowledge how absurd it is. like so it's when you watch people. defend it they have to do mental. gymnastics yeah it just did you ever see. the conversation that I had with Adam. Conover about it no oh. oh it was one of the most brutal. conversations of all time is about trans. women in sports and also this was like a. debate uh well it didn't turn out to be.

it wasn't planned out it just it just. came about because he was doing you know. he's just we were talking about it and. it got to the subject of trans women. competing and his position was like I'm. in favor of a sport that's more. inclusive so if that makes it more. inclusive for the transwoman and he was. like in favor of hormone blockers for. children that they they've always known. that they're a woman like what the [ __ ]. are you you don't have any kids you. don't know what kids are like you you. could tell your kid that they're a. werewolf like stay keep away from the. full moon you're a werewolf oh I always.

knew like they're kids their brain's not. formed and also they want to please you. and if you're a [ __ ] like how many. [ __ ] Hollywood psychos have trans. kids how many people will they fly the. flag of inclusivity and they're they're. a proud Progressive and I'm proud that I. have a queer. child how much of that is your influence. is it 0% because I bet it's not I bet. there's some sort of reinforcement of.

that it's just like the the numbers are. so extraordinary when you have parents. that have three trans kids you're like. what three what are the odds of that and. you're nuts you're a Nutty actress and. you have three trans kids what's going. on here and you're not allowed to say it. if you say anything you say oh this. person who's clearly mentally ill might. actually be mentally ill and might. actually have munchow syndrome you know. like they they might be doing something. terrible to their child because they're. just [ __ ] nuts and they want a trans.

kid like so they could fly it as a they. could put their pride flag on their. [ __ ] front door and they feel like a. better person there are people like that. and then there're also people that are. just compassionate people that want. people to be free and do whatever you. want they want you to have complete. freedom to express your I don't care if. a guy wears a dress wear a dress man if. that's what you like I don't care you. want to paint your nails want to have. lipstick on I don't give a [ __ ] have a. good time I want you to be happy I'll be. your friend just don't try to compete. against women in sports that's [ __ ]. nuts and don't try to make women.

uncomfortable by walking with your dick. out in the the women's locker room it's. how about the guy in Canada that's 50. years old that identifies as a a a. teenage girl was competing in like young. girls swimming and they they allowed him. cuz Canada like you know yeah you live. there off the rails you live in a. communist [ __ ] hole that place is nuts. yeah and they allow some of the most. bananas trans stuff of all time they on. taxpayer money in Canada they paid for a.

guy to develop breast milk do you know. about this story no oh yeah has an. adopted child paid for them paid for. this person to lactate you imagine the. toxic milk that's coming out of this man. oh horrendous like what is in there like. what are you generating you don't even. have the glands for it like what's. actually being secreted there what is. that yeah it's like uh if you asked me. would it be good milk quality from some. guy on Tren or Deca and he's just.

[ __ ] secreting [ __ ] out of his. nipples I be like [ __ ] no dude [ __ ] no. like what is happening what is in that. milk and what is that going to do to the. baby that's sucking on it and all in the. name of inclusiv inclusivity all in the. name of being a kind compassionate. open-minded person that's not. open-minded that's nuts and it's. cowardly because you're afraid to say. what you know to be true because you. don't want to suffer the repercussions. you don't want to be called a transphobe. whatever the [ __ ] that means you don't. want to be called a bigot you don't want. to be called any of these things so.

you'll go along with some of the most. Preposterous ideas including pretending. that perverts don't exist yeah I hope uh. I don't know if Pierre is going to get. into winning the election and get. Trudeau out but seems Seems like a. reasonable guy well he seems way more. reasonable than Trudeau who seems. completely insane yeah and like candidly. I'm not like a political expert by any. [ __ ] means at all so don't take. anything I'm saying seriously apparently.

last time I was here people thought I. was like by not saying anything about it. I was like endorsing Trudeau or. something not saying anything about it I. don't know there was like comments about. how like Derek knows better he knows who. this prer guy is I'm like no I just. don't follow this [ __ ] like I should. probably yeah so but he yeah he seems uh. reasonable and in contrast to Trudeau. who's like a [ __ ] full on sure fullon. lunatic who's completely changed his. tune on so many different things. including going after guns what they did. with the trucker the trucker strike yeah.

like the Deb banking thing you guys. talked about recently it's like not new. news in Canada I know yeah well they did. it to people who donated yeah to the. trucker Convoy which is really crazy so. you just say hey these people shouldn't. be mandated to get a vaccine that has. you know a safety profile that's really. like we don't really know yet we don't. know there's no longterm studies we. don't really know what's going to happen. and you're just like mandating this why. why why I don't have to do it why you. making me do it it turned out you really.

didn't have to do it so this is what. what's turned out now like um you know. the was it the here I'll I'll send it to. you Jamie so they released uh a study. recently where the actual government. went and looked over here I'll send you. this so they went and looked over what. the actual results were from the. pandemic and the findings are they're. you know not that shocking to anybody. who's actually paying attention but. completely contrary to what the.

instructions were when we were young and. this or when you know Co was recent. rather so covid-19 this is uh the house. released a 500 page report on covid-19. pandemic key findings covid-19 likely. originated from a lab related incident. in Wuhan China crazy you get banned from. YouTube for saying that banned okay over. 00 billion in relief funds lost to fraud. with criminals exploiting weak oversight. prolonged lockdowns and arbitrary.

mandates caused severe harm economic. Devastation mental health crisises and. historic learning loss while lacking. robust scientific support policies. ignored natural immunity pushing. mandates that eroded trust and harmed. public perception of science absolutely. who and CDC compromised by political. inter erence offering inconsistent. unscientific guidance that fueled public. distrust and the key players included.

federal agencies and Cuomo's. Administration actively obstructed. oversight efforts and hid critical. evidence Christ select subcommittee on P. coronavirus pandemic basically said all. the conspiracy theorists were correct. every single one of them no. repercussions no retractions no apology. from Rachel mattow none of it. yeah man it's uh yeah in Canada the. lockdowns were pretty absurd um I know. here they were it depended on the state.

and whatever but yeah Canada was like. get your vaccines you're not leaving to. go anywhere basally yeah yeah crazy. [ __ ] up did you have to take it yeah. dude [ __ ] sucked did you have a side. effect no well at least that I could. tell and I've did you ever do a d dimer. test yeah it's noral oh that's good well. from what I understand I talked to a. friend of mine who's very knowledgeable. in this and he said that one of the real. problems was the lack of uh aspiration. that they didn't aspirate when they uh. injected people even when they did Biden.

on television they just jammed that. thing into his arm and and shot it in. there so is it supposed to stay like. local or something and it's supposed the. idea about it was it's supposed to stay. local right it's supposed to stay local. but apparently there's been if you talk. to Brett Weinstein a bunch of other. people there's a lot of debate as to. whether or not it is ever local that. they've been able to find the evidence. of the spike protein all throughout the. body and the the issue though was if you. didn't aspirate and you went right into. a blood vessel oh so that could be the.

cause of myocarditis all these different. neurological conditions all these. different things so the lipid nanop. particles and this vaccine gets in your. system your body reacts to it like it's. being attacked right well if it gets to. the heart your heart doesn't heal right. which is why your heart doesn't get. cancer your heart scars. like your liver heals your liver. regenerates you could lose half your. liver you know you can donate half your. liver to someone and it'll grow back in. weeks yeah yeah the liver is resilient.

it's nuts but your heart's not like that. so the heart scars over and it leads to. you know enlargement of the heart. myocarditis pericarditis so this is the. thought this is what my friend told me. who's a very intelligent person I don't. want to name him but he said that the. real issue is that they didn't aspirate. and a significant number of people that. are experiencing these long term issues. from the vaccine it's because it went. right into their bloodstream when it was. supposed to be intramuscular yeah there. is a several times now cuz as especially.

if you're on trt you're probably. more understanding of how to inject. yourself almost than somebody who's like. a random pharmacist that just jamming. people as fast as they want every single. day just as part as their gig and you're. kind of risking it if you just let. somebody else pin you like sometimes you. feel like being like hey like can I do. this. right right but even then like if you. jam it into your arm it's possible that. you could hit a blood vessel yeah have. you ever heard of Tren cough I have what.

is that yeah so it's thought to be that. if you get into uh like you Nick a vein. or something or you like hit a blood. vessel for example and you get it some. of it bleeding immediately into systemic. circulation rather than being. intramuscular entirely it goes very. quickly up to your lungs and you. basically have a coughing fit getting. induced by your body trying to like. expel whatever is there W and so like I. could absolutely see something that. wasn't meant to go immediately into.

systemic circulation being more. problematic like with Trend cough I've. experienced it personally back in the. day this is like one of the most. sobering things about bodybuilding is if. you get Tren cof it's like the most. pathetic scenario you'll ever find. yourself in because you're just this. muscle bound dude who just injected. yourself with like cattle steroids and. you're just looking at yourself in the. mirror hacking up along sweating your. [ __ ] face off like what am I doing. with my life and you can't get around it. other than just like cloth a l for 3.

minutes it takes three minutes for it to. go away it depends but like how much you. have and all this a bunch of stuff but. yeah it's like basically if it happens. you can feel it coming on you just like. [ __ ] brace yourself on the sink and. you get ready to hack up along for a few. minutes Jesus and is it a consistent. thing or is it a one-time thing like. right after injection or is it something. that Rec after injection but it's like. you know who knows what that does once. you get like solvents and [ __ ] you. know like whatever else is in your. compound in your solution into systemic.

circulation immediately like I don't. know what is Tren is something that the. craziest of people that I know have. taken including like Jiu-Jitsu guys that. really want to get super jacked they. take Tren and I'm like what is it about. the trend and they apparently get like. ultraviolent when they're on Trend yeah. so it's a unique compound that was. called Tren balone is that what is yeah. and it used to be used in for like I.

forget what the clinical application was. but it was a pharmaceutical approved. steroid back in the 80s and then was you. know basically taken off the market. similar to around the same time that. interestingly enough Biden was the one. who spearheaded getting like steroids. scheduled essentially Biden did yeah he. was like at the Forefront of pushing for. the Banning of them or schedu if I don't. have muscles nobody has muscles yeah and. that's like he's blamed Often by the. bodybuilding Community for the lack of. refinement and anabolic steroids cuz now.

we're stuck with the same drugs we've. been using since like the 80s wow so. like every drug category has had. significant refinements over the years. to make them more effective less side. effect ridden Etc like gp1 medications. for example highly effective and. constantly being like lightning through. pipelines to create really really. refined ones are less. problematic and was steroids that was. being done in the 80s and then once. there was you know the Ben johnon.

debacle I believe it was yeah that. brought all this you know public outcry. proud Canadian yeah and getting test. positive for Winstrol I think and people. were like is this just going to become. like a [ __ ] like chemical warfare. essentially in the Olympics and. whoever's dope the most is going to win. and people are freaking out and the. response was Biden getting. including testosterone scheduled wow. yeah and then there was this huge stigma. developed around them and the taboo of. being on steroids was developed and.

that's kind of what led to this probably. slowing down progress decades and likely. preventing people from getting steroids. developed that were far less likely to. kill them yeah so we could have like. really refined highly effective. compounds by now that don't make your. heart explode if you just if they just. continued probably well I know that one. state I think it was Oregon essentially. decriminalized everything I think. they've taking that back now because I.

think it was like a Oregon's a disaster. anyway Portland in particular like you. go there's just needles and drug addicts. and it's like open air drug Mars. everywhere CU all the homelessness and. the camping on the street the tent. situation there is [ __ ] nuts and. they're super tolerant Progressive. people so like overwhelmingly right so. they just. look at like in terms of compassion for. these people we need to fund them and. you're basically giving them money to. stay homeless it's really nuts so when a.

society like that decriminalizes. everything we just gonna [ __ ] people. are going to go Haywire with meth and. and you know and whatever else they want. to get but they also did it with. steroids they did it with everything. they essentially decriminalized all. drugs H but I think they took did they. take that back Jamie I would be curious. even if it was decriminalized though. what the access would be like cuz it's. still going to be contingent on. compounding pharmacies being able to. make stuff legally which from what I. understand is actually getting worse.

scrutiny as opposed to like it getting. better well they're scrutinizing. peptides now which is yeah really crazy. Oregon law rolling back drug. decriminalization takes effect making. possession a crime again so is it of all. things did they just change the law. totally so a democratic control. legislation passed the rec Criminal. ization law in March overhauling a. measure approved by 58% of Voters in. 2020 that made possessing illicit drugs. like heroin punishable by a ticket and a.

maximum $100 fine the measure directed. hundreds of millions of dollars in. cannabis tax revenue towards Addiction. Services but the money was slow to get. out the door at a time when the fenel. crisis was causing a spike in deadly. overdoses in health officials grappling. with the covid-19 pandemic we're. struggling to stand up the new treatment. system State Auditors found okay so they. just couldn't keep up with what was they. didn't follow through with the whole. idea of these. con addiction centers and rehabilitation.

centers yeah and like some of this stuff. is like I don't even know how much it. would help being able to possess. something when you can't even get it. prescribed to begin with right you can't. manufacture it still like if you if. you're allowed to get cocain if you're. allowed to possess cocaine you buying. fenol a cocaine from the cartel like. what do you yeah like in Canada it's not. a I'm pretty sure it's not a crime to. possess steroids but to sell it and. distribute it it is a crime and there's.

still no pharmacies that are making like. pharmaceutical grade steroids that. aren't testosterone could a pharmacy. make it and give it away you some Elon. Musk type [ __ ] crazy person I don't. think so probably not man right so if. it's decriminalized and you're allowed. to possess it are you allowed to make it. no I think just like the process of. Distributing Pro I don't even know but I. know like oxandrin for example anavar. was recently like banned entirely and. it's been allowed to be prescribed for.

certain like hyp specific Niche purposes. for decades it's been around since the. 80s and it's banned in America as well. yeah like recently uh it was added to. like uh it it was basically. dapovar I but you can still get the. covid-19 vaccine yeah easily they'll. still tell you to get it yeah they try. to give it to kids yeah fcked up man. yeah but um it's crazy because like how. many people are dying from. anavar not many yeah like what's the.

numbers it's like what is it like Brazil. net deaths you know what I mean uh it's. definitely not the safe a safe drug but. I mean like it's you know when it's used. appropriately it can be fine right yeah. but there's not a crisis no no yeah. that's the thing it's like why are you. passing laws when there's not an issue. yeah I don't I don't know what the. effect of RFK will be but it sounds like. he might be able to influence things now. in like a positive direction to that.

stuff he looks a little Saucy oh for. sure he's 70 he I think he admitted that. he's on trt yeah clearly I mean if you. you would have to be the craziest. genetic freak of all time to carry that. kind of muscle mass at 70 naturally yeah. yeah so that's good and he also is open. to the idea of uh changing the. classification of psychedelics as well. which I think is going to be really. important to people there there's a lot. of things that morons are preventing. Society from using and that's really all. it is people who are ignorant to the.

effects ignorance to the ri they're. ignorant to all of it and they're. compromised generally by pharmaceutical. drug companies yeah I definitely think. psychedelics have utility one thing I do. see that freaks me out though is people. permanently changing their brain. chemistry with like heavy iasa exposure. or whatever oh yeah like have you seen. uh. I've seen multiple cases of this on. social media as well as in real life. people have gone like Retreats and then. come back unrecognizable in their. demeanor and how they behave and not in.

a good way like like weirdos yeah oh. yeah I know a few yeah like have you. seen a liver King recently no what's. going on he seems like I don't know like. borderline schizophrenic. now okay but is that also I think he was. mentally ill right maybe I would listen. let me just classify my definition of. mental illness is someone who lies I. think it's a mental illness I think. lying when it's really obvious yeah like. you know if I try to tell people I'm 6'3.

that's an obvious lie if I say that over. and over again until somebody comes up. with a ruler that's crazy you have to be. a crazy person that's a mental illness. if you lie and say you're black and. you're actually white and you like work. for the NAACP like the Rachel Doo lady. kind of mentally ill right yeah that's. mental that's a mental ill there's. something wrong you're not like you're. not thinking clear and you're doing a. thing we generally like universally say. is a bad thing which is lying right so. if you're doing that you're lying about. taking steroids when it's super obvious.

you're on steroids you're 46 years old. you look like a [ __ ] superhero you're. right just super jacked yeah you know. and then gets caught okay so now he has. to come out and say that he's now. imagine you've never been famous and. then all of a sudden you are really. really famous really quickly over the. course of a few years like social media. all over Tik Tok your profile is. elevated to the point where you could. say to the regular person's treat you. know who liver King is like oh yeah that. royed up guy everybody knows who he is.

then the hate because your Labs come out. and finds out he's on a shitload of. things this guy's juice to the tits. obviously for a guy like you or a guy. like me we look at a guy like that like. you've got to be on the juice you don't. even look remotely normal see everyone. says that though too but a lot of people. believe them well a lot of people are. just ignorant right the people that knew. like yourself 100% you knew that that. guy was on steroids right so then. imagine the anxiety that comes with.

being exposed and then the hate now I. don't this dude I don't know what this. dude does in terms of like social media. if he reads comments but just imagine. the psychological effect of being. bombarded by people calling you a piece. of [ __ ] and a liar and a fraud all day. long every time you check your Instagram. or whatever you got your YouTube the. comments are filled with people who hate. you yeah filled with it and you're just.

like sitting there steing your own [ __ ]. and just freaking out about your. decisions and your your your brain. probably gets overrun by. stress yeah yeah yeah for sure it's uh I. I don't even know for for him. specifically either if he did. psychedelics or not I'm pretty sure he's. talked about it openly but it was just. like some of the videos were really odd. and it kind of reflected Behavior I've. seen of people who had like experiences. gone arai but certainly not.

representative of what happens if it's. done properly well I think it's depends. on if it's done properly to who yeah. like your Baseline State and like what. what you're yeah I think there's people. like this is the argument that Alex. Baron said had when he wrote that book. you know he used to write for the New. York Times he wrote a book called tell. your children and it's all his argument. is that marijuana is not safe for. everybody right it's safe for a lot of. people I know a lot of people use. marijuana all the time they don't have. any problems but I do know multiple.

people that have gone schizophrenic from. marijuana now is it they were going. schizophrenic anyway and then these high. does marijuana experiences were the. Tipping Point we don't really know but. we do know there's a correlation and. I've seen it I've seen it with multiple. people where they were really normal and. then all of a sudden they start talking. talking to you about like you know like. someone's talking to them in their head. and there's a chip and Elon Musk is. going to have them be the king of Mars. and like people lose their [ __ ] man and.

they they go into this world of paranoid. fantasy and delusion and it's horrible. to see especially to someone that you. care about it's really [ __ ] weird. kills your REM sleep too marijuana does. yeah well if you're using it like to. sleep it can reduce sleep latency but. significantly harms REM sleep so you. might not be getting quality sleep every. night which exacerbates the effect it. definitely [ __ ] with your dreams yeah. you know how I know this sober October. when uh we do sober October like.

immediately have these wild dreams like. super vivid dreams I'm like where have. these things been so like for the whole. month just crazy do you track the Sleep. metrics when you're doing sober October. reverse no I was doing it for a while. with whoop I was like checking my. recovery I wasn't that I'm basically a. feel person like how do I feel I'm. pretty good at knowing how I feel and if. I feel well rested if I got 8 hours. sleep and I feel well rested I'm not. even going to check my I don't care I. feel great let's go let's go I just like.

I think so much of it is mental you know. so much of is like the energy that you. have to approach your day is enthusiasm. and health you know that's where your. energy generally comes from yeah the. stress of tracking can sometimes like. defeat the purpose as well for some. people I think it's also you know I've. heard people talk about like addiction. you know like how many people are. addicted to their phones most of us. right um there's an addiction to. checking like Health metrics there's and.

there's also an addiction like competing. but I would say that that's an addiction. that's fairly positive because you're. addicted to these numbers that are. correlated with health benefits so I was. like what is addiction okay if you're a. gambling addict and you're losing your. house and your children don't have food. okay that's a detrimental addiction but. if you're addicted to excise size and. you're super fit because of it you're. you're going to live longer and you're. healthy as [ __ ] and you look great is. that really an addiction I'm not sure if.

we're talking about the same thing we're. talking about the same kind of pattern. but like I've been addicted to a lot of. things I've been addicted to martial. arts for sure like if I don't I would be. like out in public and if people if. people were boring to me I'd be thinking. of combinations I'd be like talking to. them but i' be I wasn't thinking about. what they were saying I was thinking. about how would hit them I'd think about. like if they step like this then I go. like that but what if I step here I. would like working out footwork and I. would do it in my head cuz I was an. addict but I was addicted to something.

that was very positive yeah no it's uh. you need somewhere to attribute your I. don't know dopamine too I guess so if. it's positive it's like probably the. best thing you could hope for as long as. you don't go over the top which is. pretty difficult to do with health stuff. so well you can't break yourself down. with overtraining you know I would say. that my my good friend David gogins is. broking his body down with overtraining. and he's he's got no cartilage in his. knees and he's running thousands of. miles he's a complete psychopath he must.

be in agony like every step he takes and. he does not give a [ __ ] he just keeps. going it's really crazy to see his. doctor looked at his knees and said this. is from him directly he said I don't. know how you could walk on these knees. forget about run thousands of miles yeah. they had to cut his his knee because. it's bone on bone his bone was. distorting so much by growing to kind of. like deal with the inflammation and like. it's like some I forget what it's called.

something wolf syndrome something so. they had to cut his leg cut his [ __ ]. tibbia bone and shift it down so that. it's flat so you could run flat bone on. bone that's [ __ ] dude it's Madness. yeah what's even more madness is the. guys who get their tibia smashed open. and femur and then get height increasing. Sur that's crazy do you do we find that. one guy was like 6'2 who did it dude I'm. doing a podcast with him in two days.

what is it called I got my knees done is. that what he he took his page down. though didn't he yeah I think he was off. social media for a while and um I I was. actually going to do a podcast with him. last year and then it didn't end up. working out and he's available into the. idea still so that's well is he fully. healed now he went from 6 foot to 6'6. Jesus Christ look at the size of him and. this is him Wheeling himself around and. he was a massive guy too like look at. the size of his [ __ ] arms yeah the.

guy is like a genetic freak for muscle. for sure and let's become taller they're. cranking their legs this is nuts so. basically they go in and shove these. rods into your legs either in the tibia. or the femur or you can do both if you. want to max out and you can basically. would just stretch it to create a. separation between the bone which then. fills in with new bone over time and.

this is him seven months after the. lengthening process I want to see what. your legs look like dude why I got. sweatpants on see what those little. toothpicks look like yeah so this guy. went from like nuts I don't know what. his original height was but he's 6 feet. now and he was like I think 5'6 or 5'7. when he started wow that's crazy so I. have a lot of questions about is your. athleticism permanently [ __ ] now are. you ever going to be able to squat again. you know like what's life like now what. was the surgery process Rehabilitation. what are your mechanics you have to. change you have to learn how to [ __ ].

do everything the distance between your. shin like your kneecap and your foot if. that changes dramatically like your. whole timing is different you have more. a different Leverage The everything's. different what does it do to your hips. yeah you know are you gonna wear your. hips out earlier like your body's. probably like has to compensate for. these freakishly long shins now yeah and. this guy too he's a unique phenomenon. even among the people doing this crazy. surgery because he got the full 6 in.

which is not necessarily typical having. both uh bones broken to do it and then. maxing it out at the weight he's at too. so he has to support the recovery unlike. a I can imagine seemingly like 300 plus. frame or something Jesus Christ like a. lot of people who get it done are like 5. trying to become like five weigh 150. yeah and it's like more it's still. probably [ __ ] insane regardless it's. insane yeah but it's just you're only.

stretching one bone right yeah I have to. are they doing the tibia as well it you. pick so the tibia and the fibula rather. you doing both of them femur or tibia or. femur yeah yeah I I could be misspeaking. but I'm pretty sure it's one or the. other and both yeah oh Jesus he had both. done like maxed it Jesus yeah so he's uh. what is the recovery like ex yeah good. question so so this is this guy after.

how long a couple weeks after he's. chowing how he can jump which is not. much a couple weeks after he gets his. surgery done no no no after he gets the. bars pull off this is all it's like week. by week I think jumping after height. surgery oh look how skinny his legs are. so he's pretty skinny so this is him in. the beginning he's trying to do it I. would be terrified do that see I would. be my curiosity is how athletic were. they prior and then what is their. maximal like what's their max out point.

of recovery in contrast to their. Baseline cuz yeah you could show me a. box jump that looks like you're somewhat. functional but his legs that's so crazy. yeah so they like stick a rod in it and. micro I think like a year probably or I. don't know month so for a year you're. walking around with these like iron Shin. plates. yeah yeah it's pretty nuts. dude getting all the [ __ ] now yeah.

looking all sexy and Tall now there was. one guy Jamie that you pulled up before. who had it done and they they showed him. doing some uh athlet athletic drills. like cone drills and coordination drills. and he looked [ __ ] great he looked. like a real athlete even though he got. it done it didn't look like it was. unless he's just unbelievably athletic. before and maintained a lot of it I. would like to know like did you have a. decrease like could you would you I mean. you obviously look insane right now but. would you used to be able to be able to. do yeah some of the stuff I'm curious.

about too is like how much of the. content you see online is like sponsored. versus actual like user content just. reviewing their experience cuz you could. see like for example hair transplants. tons of people get sent like fully paid. to go get a transplant done as as long. as they speak positively about it and. whatever so imagine a guy who's getting. like specialized attention which you. would want if you're getting your. [ __ ] legs broken and you're getting.

it covered or whatever and you just to. make sure you talk about it positively. right how much of that content is like. legit versus you know somewhat. manufactured that's a very good point. yeah that's also one of those things. where if you're a social media. influencer you probably want to appear. like you're doing all the right things. yeah you would never want to admit that. you [ __ ] yourself up for hide. increasing surgery I can't walk right. I'm in pain all the time I can't run. anymore you'd become the case study for.

like why to not do it yeah yeah I wonder. I mean I wonder like what kind of an. effect that would have on your mechanics. I really do I would imagine for martial. arts like you know where everything is. like I like if I'm throwing a kick I. know exactly where my shin is going to. land from the that I'm at like I've got. like this mind my mind is coordinated. for this short body I know exactly how. much distance I have to cover if all of. a sudden you add six inches to that oh.

yeah you're all you're everything is. weird dude even G even gaining a bit of. muscle can throw off your depth. perception of how strong like for. example when I was in high school I. played basketball and I started working. out in grade 11 and gained like 50 lbs. in a year and my three-pointer that used. to be just like just [ __ ] money every. time I knew exactly how to shoot the. ball like it was you know just second. nature to because you've been doing it.

for a decade or whatever and then all of. a sudden you add this extra Force. production that you're not accounting. for PR all of a sudden everything's. thrown off oh and also you're sore all. the time CU you're always lifting which. makes you tight yeah it became a brick. house after that it's a giant problem. with pool you know cuz I'm addicted to. playing pool when I lift weight and then. play pool it takes like an hour before I. can loosen up and play good like. everything's off it's like my arm's not. listening right it's all stiff like for.

pool you want to like when I'm playing. really well I'm barely holding on to. that queue it's like I'm almost letting. the queue do all the work it's like a. very gentle thing but then when I've. been like I do like a heavy kettle bell. session and then I try to play pool it's. like everything's just tight and Goofy. and clunky and you don't you don't feel. it like pool is like a feel game like. you're feeling how many rotations you're. putting on the ball to get it to move to. the next position like literally you're.

within one or two rotations correctly. yeah and that's the the difference. between getting into an area where you. can make the next shot or not yeah like. so it's all feel like these guy like. Fedor gor who's like one of the best. players in the world he he changed Q's. he changed Q companies M the same weight. the same like taper the same tip. millimeter and he said his shot was. about 10% off he goes 6 to 10% off I was.

like what yeah like how he's like you. just it's off it takes a while to. recalibrate yeah this is one of those. examples where like you know in MMA too. like if you gain a bunch of muscle from. drugs even like it's not necessarily. beneficial your Mobility could be. inhibited. flexibility gas out quicker even in B. BJJ it's like like and you can sauce to. the tits but like it might not be. helpful to the capacity you can actually. push it right you know you might gas out. quicker all of a sudden you can't do. things that you used to do I think the.

key is moderation and lifting in regard. to uh unless you're on the sauce you. know if you're doing anything like uh. MMA or any skill-based thing because as. soon as you're tight and sore you're not. going to learn well you're you're you're. you're not going to have a snap to your. punches you'll be pushing punches you. know there's there's a fluidity like. some of the hardest techniques almost. look effortless cuz there's a fluidity. to the like if you're Landing a kick for. example like a hard kick like a spinning.

back kick like what Jon Jones knocked. out stpe mioi with there's a there's a. dance going on with your nervous system. with all your muscles moving in. coordination have you think of how. complex that movement is right he's. standing like this sideways and he's. looking for the and at the right moment. he pivots on the ball of his foot turns. his heel towards the person rotates his. entire body this way and shoves his leg.

forward pushing off his back leg with. all of his weight and there's a timing. you don't want to hit him here and you. don't want to hit him at the end of it. you want to hit him right in the sweet. spot so you got to know your foot on. extension is going to be properly. distanced from his rib cage in order for. you to get Max maximum force and it's. all happening in a fraction of a second. it's and when it lands it's like getting. hit by a [ __ ] car and if you T but. it's a dance and if you here here you.

see him do this look at this [ __ ]. dance man watch this look at that term. boom I mean it's Perfection I had a. feeling that if anyone could appreciate. this it would be you know you for sure. given this is like your signature right. oh that's my specialty kick yeah that's. uh yeah it's not that is everyone is. impressed by it but like I knew you. would see it as like I was so hyped up. for it because I I always wondered why. more people don't throw it and that's. also the same kick that Max Holloway.

landed on Justin gatei at the end of the. first round he [ __ ] him up at the end. of the first round with a spinning back. kick to the face which is a crazy kick. to take the mug sick fight but that it's. but you know Stipe is one of the. toughest guys to ever walk the face of. the Earth for him to go down like that. look at the force look at the force boom. I mean your whole his rib went in like. look how deep it goes in on impact look. how [ __ ] deep his heel is into look. at that that's. insane that's like the body equivalent.

of that Tony Ferguson picture right. right the one when he gets front kicked. in the face yeah un that mean that is. incredible amount of penetration look at. that I mean all of his organs just went. into shock right there and if he was on. the other side it would be even more. devastating cuz that's not even the side. where the liver is that's just general. organ trauma you know and he just can't. take it he just goes down and then. that's wrap so what happens when aspinal.

fights Jon Jones I gotta hope they fight. I want to know it's got to happen right. here's a question with Aspen what. happens with Aspen in the second. round like oh I guess you want to talk. about a guy who Sprints yeah you want to. talk about a guy was fast twitch Aspen. is one of the fastest heavyweights he. might be the fastest heavyweight in the. history of the sport I don't think. anybody moves like that guy does at a at. a 250 plus pound frame his movement is. [ __ ] extraordinary and that's.

something you have to deal with like. that is a crazy ability like his ability. to move like the way he moves is so much. different than everybody else in the. sport like P Google let's let's come up. with a good Aspen all fight uh how about. the Curtis blades fight was pretty quick. but how about the last one with the. pavage fight where he won the interim. title that's a good one a minute I got. vov was three minutes yeah all of his. fights like all together he's fought.

like 10 minutes everybody gets blown out. quick yeah but let's let's watch one of. them like the the the only loss he has. was he blew his knee out throwing a kick. which is crazy he didn't even get hit he. threw a round kick and his ACL exploded. so let's see uh Marine Tabor that's a. good one. he's so [ __ ] fast dude the Andre. alosi fight you can see him that's. pretty fast too put the Tor one it's the. left left hand side go above that above.

that to the left right there click on. that no but it's going to be a small I. can't control this that's fine that's. fine I just wanted to show his movement. look how fast he moves in I mean that. guy's so [ __ ] fast he moves like 175. pounder he doesn't move like a 250lb guy. look how quickly he Clos is the distance. man his hand speed and full range of. skills incredible standup knocks guys. out with one punch black belt and.

jiujitsu really good wrestler his. everything and he's young so what's your. prediction if it happens it's you it's. hard to bet against Jon it's hard to bet. against Jon but Jon's not a real. heavyweight Jon could make light. heavyweight 100% he weights 230 right. now maybe a little less than 230 M. there's no doubt in my mind that if JN. just changed his diet and went back he. hasn't put that much mass on that you. would say 205 is Out Of Reach no it's uh. fluffy weight a lot of it too yeah I. look he had always had the reputation of.

[ __ ] all the heavyweights up at. Jackson Winkle John always everybody. said like when Brendan went down and. trained with him Brendan was a. heavyweight Brendon sha he's like he. [ __ ] me up he goes dude I was like top. 10 in the world as a heavyweight I. thought it was the [ __ ] he [ __ ] me up. he goes he beat my ass and he goes he. beat everybody else's ass too all the. other heavyweights raged all dudes way. bigger than him he's just a freak his. wingspan is like how much longer than. his height though too it's like yeah.

it's insane crazy reach and also just. skillful his skills are so rocksolid in. every way shape or form his standup his. submissions he's crazy strong he's got. just an insane mind for fighting and. would he blow out Pereira you think. where it's not even a worthwhile. the problem is the ground John's so much. better on the ground like world's better. you know and it takes so long to get. really good on the ground and we've seen. Pereira get in trouble with guys on the.

ground that are nowhere near Jon's level. nowhere near JN dominates everybody he. took down Daniel Cormier Daniel Cormier. is an Olympic wrestler I mean he's a. [ __ ] phenomenal wrestler and John. took him down and took him down multiple. times he's a different dude man yeah. this is what we're talking about like. with genetics right there's some guys. they're just blessed and then with John. it's blessed and his mind it's not just. it's his personality his like ruthless.

competitiveness he's like he's not going. to [ __ ] lose he's going to find a way. to get you and he's going to do it. clever he's not trying to take a bunch. of punishment and standing bang he's not. going to point the center of the Octagon. let's go right here we stand right here. never going to happen with Jon Jones. you're not getting none of that son. you're getting knees to the gut you're. getting knees kicked you're getting. [ __ ] just liced up with elbows where. your [ __ ] head's bleeding he's going. to slowly dismantle you and find a way. to submit you or punish you beat you to.

death on the ground but can he do that. with a guy like Aspen who's a legit. 255b natural who moves like he's 80 PBS. lighter he's a freak man yeah Aspen is a. freak like I've seen a lot of. heavyweight even Francis who's like the. greatest scariest power Striker I've. ever seen in the heavyweight division no. one scarier than Francis Francis does. not move like Tom Aspen Tom aspel is. significantly faster than every other.

heavyweight that's a real problem that's. a real problem but John has been used to. fighting guys like Alexander gustofson. guys who are really fast at light. heavyweight so the speed is not going to. be as much of an adjustment like Jon's. used to really fast people he fought. leoto Macha when machita was in his. Mach was a lightning bolt man and he. caught j a bunch of times but then. there's the thing of getting caught by. Leota Mach is not like getting caught by. 255 PB Tom Aspen it's pretty crazy being.

at the top of the sport for like two. eras essentially there's no one like him. yeah like when I was like a [ __ ]. teenager watching UFC it was like leoto. versus him you have like Mauricio Shogun. fights and yeah he's 14 years at the top. yeah 14 years and they're debating. whether or not he's the pound-for-pound. best fighter alive right now Islam makev. currently holds that standing and I. think that is voted amongst experts I.

think that's what it you know air quotes. experts some of these guys don't know. jack [ __ ] there's guys who vote on this. that literally have never rolled a day. in their life and that's a fact the the. meme's pretty funny though where it's. like every time Dana says Jon Jones is. the best and they'll put it in front of. like it'll be like I don't know some. obscene scenario it'll be like somebody. getting a terminal illness diagnosis or. something and then Dana way comes in. he's like but Jon Jones is the best. [ __ ] fighter of all time um I I want.

to make sure that what I said was. accurate like who does get to decide. what the pound-for-pound list is I. believe it's MMA journalists and experts. now there's MMA journalists that I know. that are really nice guys and I don't. want to say any names but I know they. never worked out a [ __ ] day in their. life and they love the sport and they. cover it fairly and they're very. knowledgeable and they're very good at. reciting stats and understanding things. but how much do you really know ratings. were generated by a voting panel made up. of media members see that's a problem. media members were asked to vote on who.

they feel the best top fighters in the. UFC by weight class and pound-for-pound. a fighter is only eligible to be voted. on if they are active status in the UFC. now this is not to disparage any of. these media people like I said I love. them I'm friends with a lot of them. they're great guys they there's no way. you. absolutely understand someone's ability. especially when you're talking about. pound-for-pound unless you've done. martial arts I just don't think I can.

see like when John threw that kick I see. that kick and I go that was beautiful. that was beautiful because I know how it. kicks I know what's supposed to happen. you're just guessing you're guessing on. what supp you never done that on. somebody if you've never done that you. don't know how beautiful that is you. don't really get it you kind of get it. but you get it the way I get flying a. plane I never Flow a plane I I kind of. see they pulled the lever that guy did a. great job flying that plane look how he. landed perfect I don't know what's. really going on you know but when it. comes to martial arts I know it's really.

going on you know and when you look at a. guy like Jon. Jones I don't think you can make a. greatest of all time complete argument. because I the way I like to look at it I. say who had the highest expression of. martial arts Excellence during their. Prime like what I don't mean the entire. career I don't mean now I mean when they. were hot like when Anderson Silva was. hot how good was that was that better.

than anything that ever existed CU I. think it might have been and that's what. I look at when I look at like. pound-for-pound best so the argument is. Jon Jones has had some really close. fights he's had like Split Decision. fights that he won he had a lot of. people thought that you know some of his. fights could like the Dominic Reyes. fight yeah dude that was close could. have easily gone to Dominic Reyes easily. and I would not have been mad at that. yeah and you know I might go back and.

watch it again and decide Dominic Reyes. won that fight but there's those 10 nine. rounds they like I don't know you could. say 109 John or 109 Dominic and either. way you've lost the title or you've won. the title back you know like it's it's. real weird makev is so [ __ ] good he's. so [ __ ] good that he head kicked. Alexander volkanovski in the rematch he. submits everybody submitted Dustin. porier he's a [ __ ] monster when he. gets guys on the ground he just crushes. them and you could argue that he's.

dealing with uh a deeper talent pool so. his weight class is in my opinion the. most talent-rich weight pool in the. sport 155 PBS 155 PBS is filled with. assassins 205 lbs is not 265 is. definitely not mm it's the giant. difference so been a while since those. divisions were like really heated with. depth like back which on light heavy. especially they used to be like the.

[ __ ] division to watch imagine though. if periro was coming up when Jon Jones. was the champion that would be exciting. that would be exciting Pereira is a. different cat man he's a did you hear. hear what Mark Goddard said to me in the. fight uh after uh he fought um khil rry. Mark Goddard came up to me goes mate the. sound it makes when he hits them is. ungodly he goes I've been doing this for. 20 years he goes the sound he makes is. just different it's ungodly he just kept.

saying that he he wanted to make a point. to say this to me he came up to me like. immediately when I got into the Octagon. he's like the sound is ungodly his power. is so different it's so do you know like. Francis hit that punch pad and he got. like 127 or whatever Pereira got 190. oh yeah that like 190 yeah CRA you know. how crazy that is with a kick the. highest I got was like. 157 some guy got like 190 with a kick.

we're pretty impressive I think some guy. might have broken 200 with a kick some. Muay Thai Guy Pereira did 190 with a. punch with a Punch Yeah and it was after. training he just Wallops this [ __ ]. thing and they come out of nowhere like. there's not really a call there's no. call yeah there's no tell and he does. doesn't have to hit you full power. because he has so much power like those. leg kicks that he [ __ ] everybody with. there's no turn of the hips at all he's. just slapping you with and all a sudden. you can't walk well and then he's like.

marching you down and it just takes one. shot his power is so crazy different. than anybody else's because everybody. gets hit on the chin but when you get. hit on the chin by that guy it's like. you can't get hit you get hit it's like. everything is just like you're like what. the [ __ ] you can see in their face yeah. remember the first time I was here we. were talking about how this guy Pereira. is the only one who's ever beat at of. San diead and he seems like this [ __ ]. assassin we were like oh that's you know. interesting timeline didn't know it.

would transpire into like this degree of. success where not only does he beat him. but then he like switches divisions. [ __ ] smokes that division too it's. crazy yeah dominated two divisions and. the only reason why he didn't stay at. light heavyweight or middleweight rather. he's literally killing himself to get to. 185 yeah and I think that likely. contributed to the too like Adis you. landed a perfect right hand that right. hand is going to [ __ ] him up every day. of the week no matter what you weigh. it's just perfect and the timing the way. he did it like leaning up against the.

cage and just looked for the opening and. just caught him coming in bang dropped. him hit him with the left hook put the. arrows into him when he's down that KO. was perfect but you got to wonder like. how much of his inability like you went. completely unconscious how much of that. is because of the drain the dehydration. because we know that the brain takes. longer to rehydrate than the muscle. tissue yeah so like they some impact for. sure yeah Fighters always say that it. impacts their ability to take a punch. they talk about it like openly like I I.

took punches better when I went up to 55. like uh a good example is aloa oloa was. like notorious for kind of like folding. at 45 he goes up to 55 and he becomes. Unstoppable H yeah no it's uh I'm I'm. surprised he ever sucked down to that to. begin with it's pretty [ __ ] he's so. big that he was getting making 185 and. then fighting at. 226 that's even more aggressive than the. Costa Cuts I think yes yeah yeah it's. he's I think he's got the most aggre he.

had the most aggressive weight cut now. it's pretty marginal now I think he gets. into the low 220s like 222 20 and then. you know he cuts 15 not that bad for a. big guy with a lot of muscle dude Costa. needs to go back to brawling he he used. to be so exciting and now it's just kind. of like has different strategies each. time and then I don't know it just. doesn't seem to be working out it's hard. to know what happens to a guy when he. gets really owned yeah cuz that's the. thing how you think he's like.

psychologically just like I don't think. he's the same guy like that's the guy. who walked down yoel Romero and we're. like oh my God yel Romero met a bigger. freak than him CU regardless of whether. or not you think cost is Juicy that. guy's got extraordinary genetics you. know I mean that's why he's such a. beautiful man perfect features like. incredible frame frame is incredible and. whether or not he's juicy the the. reality is the guy has insane genetics. and he was a [ __ ] Warrior especially. in that yoel Romero fight yoel's.

terrifying to everybody and Costa just. walked him down and beat his ass and. that was not a close fight it was. primarily a standup fight which is where. yoel's the most scary and Costa was in. no danger he beat the [ __ ] out of yoel. Romero but then he fought a guy was just. way more slick and AD aagna just was. piecing him up in a way where he. couldn't respond he just he was making. he was what he was doing was a very. effective strategy on people that. weren't as skillful as adna but that.

strategy adna was easily exploiting and. he was like exploiting with distance and. with faints and distant management and. chopping at the legs and just he had him. all [ __ ] up by the end of the first. round he was realizing I can't touch. this guy and he keeps hitting me and. when he would touch Izzy Izzy would be. rolling with the punches or he blocked. the kick and just move away from it as. he's getting hit and then just keep. stabbing at him from a distance and it. was just he was too good that's izy he. in his prime when he was at the top of. the food chain and at that moment he Fel.

he fought the best Israelite of Sonna. that's ever been and that's like we were. talking about like how good does a guy. compete in that one that this gap of a. couple of years or three years where. he's just in his prime I think that was. what it was that was Izzy in his prime. which is one of the greatest fighters of. all time against Paulo Costa who just. didn't have the answers to that and once. you've been bested like that and a guy. dry humps you when you're down he beats. your ass tko's you and then humps you.

you just like I thought I was the man. yeah so then he has all these doubts and. then he goes into these the next fights. he he missed weight for one fight and. fought at 205 remember when he fought um. who the [ __ ] did he. fight. uh God damn it Marvin vtori he fought. Marvin vtori and they were supposed to. be fighting 185 and they fought it like. 205 and he still looked like he was out. of shape he looked like he's mentally. all [ __ ] up from that fight yeah I can. imagine the downward spiral that you.

would have to try and contend with as. well after you like go from Top Rank to. I think he's lost like three in a row. it's crazy I'd like to see him get back. into form but I don't know if he can. anymore you know I don't know if you're. psychologically the same guy did you. watch cji. uh what is that the Craig Jones. invitation oh yeah I was thinking what. does CGI stand for um yeah yeah I watch. it yeah I watched it yeah what do you. think well I think it's great that these.

guys are getting a lot of money I think. that's awesome yeah I it's kind of crazy. they decided to compete against Abu. Dhabi on the same weekend I thought that. was kind of nuts but I guess if you want. to be controversial and Craig is. certainly controversial and you want to. get a lot of attention it got a lot of. attention and then of course the money I. mean he came into the studio $3 million. in cash was it three yeah wasn't it one. it was 1 million oh was 1 million okay. but he even that he gave but they gave. out $3 billion right so the three three. different divisions got a million. dollars so he brought in a million.

dollars in a duffel bag which I've I've. never seen that before you seen a it's. crazy to look at no yeah it's uh not. easy to get you know it's fun Craig's. fun he's a funny guy he's [ __ ]. hilarious he's the most hilarious guy in. Jiu-Jitsu yeah he's like really silly. he's very self-deprecating and he's. super skillful I mean his Jiu-Jitsu is. like second best in the world like he. always talks about let's he named his. team the be team he's not going to beat. Gordon you know Gordon is a freak and.

Gordon is like a real psychopath like. Gordon trains every day of the week. Gordon versus Niki Rod who wins Gordon. no question yeah Gordon's better he's. just better Nicki Rod might get to. Gordon's level one day m i mean but if. they're not training together I don't. know if he will you know I don't know if. he's training with look he's beat him. every time they faced him yeah and Nikki. did catch him in a foot lock but. Gordon's like go break my foot I'm still. going to win yeah and he submitted him. easily in Abu Dhabi and when they had.

their second match you know Gordon was. alleging he was greasy like it was. difficult to get a hold of and that's. been something that people have said. about Nikki before but it might be eat. oily food I don't know yeah I don't know. I don't know what's going on but I know. guys did that I know guys would take. baths this was in the early days like. the days they would lay in a bathtub. filled with baby oil so they would lay. in this bathtub with water and like. [ __ ] gallons of like P Diddy.

style P Diddy style [ __ ] like just. supplies of baby oil in that water and. they'd bathe in it then they would wash. themselves off dry themselves off and. then to the touch their skin would not. feel like oil at all until they started. sweating and then when they started. sweating they would be like a fist just. you just couldn't grab them oh my God. yeah that was the thing that it was. alleged that certain Strikers from. Brazil used to do before they fought and. guys just could not get a hold of them.

they would just be so slippery you you. couldn't take them down if you take them. down you couldn't hold them down it's. like just slip right out of your hands. like a bar soap and how would you avoid. do they screen for that somehow in the. UFC or like how's that work the problem. is what I'm saying that you could oil. your skin up and then wash it and it. would still be in your pores and you. wouldn't even be able to detect as long. as you were dry they would rub you with. like a cloth or something like nope. there's nothing on his skin like what do. they unless they have like baby oil. detection wipes that you then send to a.

laboratory to find out this person put. baby oil on so are you never allowed to. put baby oil on or are you only allowed. to put baby oil on until the week of the. fight like when when are we going to say. no baby oil ever for a person what if. they like baby oil what if they like the. you know what if they like cocoa butter. what what do you so it's weird yeah it's. weird and so the the solution to that is. everybody has to wear long sleeve rashu. guards and spats that's the solution and.

that's what they should do so the best. way to stop these greasers is you put. them in leggings leggings and tights. simple yeah remember that was like a bit. of a controversy at least in early UFC. it was like oh yeah yeah I know guys. greased I 100% I can tell you 100% guys. greased even like between rounds though. too I know one guy who didn't just. grease he put Vic's vapo rub all over. his chest Jesus and then he would grab. guys and pull their head into his chest.

so you'd be getting sweat and Vick's. Vapor Rub in your eyes and he' be. kneeing you in the face that's [ __ ]. crazy dude crazy yeah well when they. weren't testing for things dudes did a. lot of dirty [ __ ] yeah I heard another. story I can't substantiate I will say no. names but a guy allegedly. gave blood to make weight so he not. didn't give blood but had blood removed. from his body and chilled in his room so. that he can make weight and then went.

back up to his room and got that blood. put back in his body after his body had. probably you know resupplied itself with. a significant amount of it depending on. how much time it is between the fact. they withraw the blood I don't know how. long how much time but you could think. about like how much weight blood is yeah. and if you can get like you know how. much can you take while you're still. conscious I don't know but you take. these bags of blood and keep them. chilled and then let your body re fill. and rep proliferate with blood and then. go back into the room and now you're.

blood doping with your own blood totally. undetectable and you made weight with. blood cutting yeah and that's like. another micro do Vector that people use. still to this dayus blood transfusions. well that's me there's probably multiple. factors why you're not allowed to get. IVs and that might be one of. you know yeah but it's like detecting. that is always just through your data. that they have to assess or they assess. for like Plastics in in your bloodstream. which you can get around just by storage. technique right um Plastics in your.

bloodstream would you get around that if. you injected it with a glass vial and a. needle as opposed to like a bag some. people are like freezing as opposed to. just like storing it in liquid format. and then whatever you're storing it in. it can all make a difference in terms of. freezing it yeah you can freeze your. blood and then put it back in yeah whoa. yeah like thot obviously but how weird. is that super weird how long is your. blood good for that's a good question.

but I would imagine longer if you're. freezing. it Jesus Christ the things people do. just to get a little bit of an advantage. yeah but it works man like that's yeah. yeah yeah and it's like at least of the. doping methods like one of the least. easy to detect cuz there's no like. substance that is stimulating anything. it's just your own blood that was. supposed to be there right so the only. way they'd be able to detect is to. detect whether or not you've had an IV. yeah well it would be like they'd look.

at your biological passport data and see. a unusual elevation of hemoglobin. hematocrit probably around an event and. you would also see a disproportionate. suppression of reticul sites which are. like immature red blood cells cuz if. your body has SAR to testosterone if you. administer it you stop producing natural. so if you put in exogenous blood you're. going to suppress the natural production. of red blood cells because you have an. adequate Supply right so you would have.

a disproportionate ratio between like. blood cells oxygen carrying capacity. markers and immature blood cells and. it's like why is this differential so. significant all of a sudden and it might. flag in a typical finding and get. further. scrutiny and yeah with blood. transfusions cuz there's no way to. really prove. anything often times penalizations occur. based on like it looks so [ __ ] up that. we have to penalize you because we. assumed you did it like how would they.

detect that like I think it's just such. an aberant finding that's different from. everything you've ever showed in your. data that you must have cheated oh right. for so the biological passport yeah. because it's like with other compounds. like testosterone you need to have like. conf confirmation via isotope ratio Mass. whatever with blood it's like what did. you do like there's no compound to prove. was or wasn't there it's just like the. blood but it is illegal right so you'd. have to have a nurse that can keep their. mouth shut or significant other who is a.

nurse or a of different things right. yeah right right right and some of the. stuff isn't like hard to really learn. either like it's actually a pretty good. profession is learning how to take like. some people do uh photomy. as like a low barrier to entry. high-paying job so like being somebody. who takes blood is like I there's not. much of a requirement from like.

credentials to be able to do it and it. pays well per. hour yeah and if you had a family member. who's a FLOTUS and they could hook that. up yeah yeah yeah what are the other. different ways that they can get it like. how Rock Solid is like the let's forget. about drug sport what what they have now. but the usada protocol call that they. were using before how what are the best. ways to get around that um well because. they weren't actually. testing almost at all for EPO and GH how.

like what percentage were they testing. for it um you'd probably have to ask. Hunter to confirm but my understanding. was like best case scenario you were. getting EPO tested if somebody like. reported you as like you know there's a. bunch of people trying to out you as a. cheater and is this a finance thing is. this a uh I think it was a lot finance. and time intensive and cuz it some of. this testing is not as rudimentary and. crude is like you know just detection of. synthetic steroids in your urine you.

have to actually like manually do work. to like combust down and assess the. ratio and there's like Nuance in. interpreting this stuff too because a. lot of times you will have an expert who. has a different opinion than another. expert in terms of it if it looks weird. right so you have to like bring in. multiple opinions to of experts who then. kind of come to a Consolidated answer on. did you cheat or not wow wow and it gets. pretty complicated so doing this at. scale on a sport that has no offseason.

with people globally competing like. pretty [ __ ] costly for sure to do. properly well the MMA conspiracy. theorists they always point to like. people doing their camps in like far. away lands like what a good way to cheat. you know cuz if you want to do a camp in. dagistan like how many times is you saw. to going to dagistan yeah and what. happens to those guys when they get over. there and they get smacked up by those. bearded. dudes yeah imagine telling those guys. wake up at 6 o' in the morning yeah.

they'll feed you to their goats like. what are you talking about [ __ ] you come. back tomorrow yeah [ __ ] you yeah no it's. uh also they probably know when you're. there they probably got that town wired. there's absolutely logistical problems. that lead to lower barriers for certain. people yeah yeah yeah like do you camp. in Thailand son yeah for sure you got to. wonder like I would like to see like. what are what's the data on people that. do their camp in Thailand how often are.

they tested versus a guy who's got a. camp in Iowa and even like the rigger of. the person who's hired to do the testing. because it's like. how you know scrutinous is whoever. you're Outsourcing you're hiring in that. area to like you know they could be like. a local who is is you know like pledged. allegiance to that [ __ ] you know. whatever so I don't know man it's it's. tough for sure because there's no way to. like truly bulletproof it I think but at. least the UFC developments as of recent.

they've confirmed they're doing like. isotope ratio Mass Spec and actually. doing some of the higher level testing. for bioidenticals that could catch the. micro doing and the things that are very. difficult to detect stuff is still going. to squeeze through for sure but it's. going to be better than it was where. they were either not doing it or then. letting letting people do it maybe and. then asking them to be [ __ ] snitches. for. them it used to be back in the day that.

there was always rumors of like big. camps that would hire. scientists and that you know they would. figure out ways around dude that is a a. growing profession is it oh yeah yeah. there's like so many pharmacology nerds. who are like like I've even been asked. to help people in the Olympics before. really yeah wow because you're a. pharmacological nerd yeah exactly and so. these these people ask you to cheat for. them uh to help them cheat yeah which is.

also a criminal offense my understanding. due to there's actually a law now it's. like the rod chankov act or something oh. wow so if you like help somebody you're. also doing a crime ooh wow yeah oh so. you know obviously not worth doing for. me I never did it but well especially. something like the Olympics like there's. not there's no money in it you're not. making any money that's which is crazy. yeah crazy it's like pure pride and for. winning a medal it's pure exploitation.

that's what it is because it's not like. there's no money like why are you making. all the money well these people are. noble they don't want to get paid like. no you're just not paying them they. don't even know how much money there was. because in 1936 there was no money right. there was no sponsors there's no nothing. yeah I remember there was no TV yeah. let's see okay the Bill makes it. unlawful to knowingly influence or. attempt to conspire to influence a major. International Sports competition by use. of prohibited substance or prohibited. method a violator is subject to criminal. penalties a fine prison term of up to 10.

years or both and mandatory. restitution huh yeah interesting so yeah. there's. definitely and when you hear about stuff. like this too it's like there's always. the thought in the back of your mind as. a competitor what are people doing that. I'm not and curiosity strikes what do. you think is the answer what's like like. the non- ideological when you look at it. objectively say you know what what we. should be doing is doing everything that.

works or what we should be doing is have. the most insane testing that everybody. has to be 100% natural no if hands or. butts and there's no cheating that's. really hard because I too have the same. questions you had of the enhanced games. where it's like oh we're going to have. you know medical assessments that Ensure. safety and blah blah blah but it's like. if you're going full board it's. impossible to be healthy and safe yeah. so like as much as you could argue it's. probably better to not be using. Frankenstein designer drugs or doing.

weird methods to get around. cheating the alternative is not. necessarily like far superior in terms. of health because if I'm allowed to use. a gram of test you know like I'm not. going to stop at 200 migs you know like. I'm going to go full full [ __ ] sauce. to the tits so yeah if you can get a. physiological benefit of being on Trend. and just [ __ ] completely roed out of. your mind yeah become like a [ __ ]. dope energic psycho and just like you. know you will absolutely take that risk.

regardless of what it does to you yeah. especially if you're trying to win right. if people were willing to cheat when. it's really dangerous you could lose the. medal you can get outed and publicly. shamed like Ben Johnson or you don't. have to worry about that because they're. allowing you to but they would like you. to take like a sustain aable do and. you're like [ __ ] you with your. sustainable I'm trying to be number one. [ __ ] yeah give me all I I love the idea. of the enhanced games by the way but. it's like so at least my concern would. be what happens when you put up no guard.

rails and then alternatively if there. are guard rails now it's set up for. corruption at the medical provider level. who's assessing what you're healthy. enough to do and like you know are you. going into to get your blood drawn at. the trough point after injections where. look like they're half out of your. system versus before like it's almost. like a new level of doping that would be. introduced right right right so and I'm. sure they're very well spoken eloquent.

guys who are on top of that stuff and. I'm sure have answers to that or you. know have some idea of what they're. going to do but like those would be my. questions as to and I'm not saying it. needs to be safe right you know it might. just come down to accepting that this is. the [ __ ] chemical warfare games right. yeah which there's nothing wrong with. that if you're going to expose yourself. to that risk people do that in. bodybuilding all the time that's like. literally what bodybuilding is yeah yeah. that's what's crazy right bodybuilding. is huge sport is not possible without. illegal drugs and there's no rodjeno act.

for bodybuilding either so there's like. literal the the guru stuff is crazy in. bodybuilding well how do they get away. with it since it's completely illegal uh. well I mean like obviously you're going. to jail if if I'm a if I'm a guy who's. arresting people around steroid I go to. Mr Olympia I'm like you're all in jail. yeah you'd think if you wanted to just. like hit your quota for the year you. just show up to the Olympia Expo and. just be like all of you get the [ __ ]. car get in the Patty wagon yeah I I.

don't know man that's uh how'd you get. it when it comes to possession in the. states and like how scrutinous they are. on anabolics I think it's mostly if. you're importing Mass amounts they will. flag you because you're likely a. distributor at that point okay so if. it's like personal amounts typically you. would buy it domestically to not like. red flag yourself because I think in in. the mail you can't even have your mail. get checked if it's domestic so if you. are buying from you know the other side.

of the country no one would know that. you were sent anything it's only if. you're buying like growth hormone from. China or something oh and you you get. flagged and you have enough kits that. happen to get flagged in customs and. they keep a note on your record of this. guy might be doing something so he might. be a steroid deal. and then they'll have sting operations. and try and figure out who's actually. Distributing cuz they have resource. allocation bandwidth problems too so. they have to go after the big fish right. so do guys go to Mexico and bring him.

across the border not anymore no they. used to no oh yeah back in the day yeah. people like smuggle it up their ass to. get here Jesus Christ imagine taking. Tren that was in a guy's [ __ ] yeah. Dan Bilzerian used to he talked about. how when he was in uh uh buds he would. like go with buddies to get gear from. Mexico and then they smuggle it up their. asses back into the US J Christ what if. the bottle broke [ __ ] yikes butthole. glass Cuts buddy I watched that in a.

video it's called one guy one cup oh. yeah you ever seen that one no back in a. lively I saw the OG variant of that and. never I can't watch another one one guy. one cup is way more horrifying this guy. sticks a mason jar up his [ __ ] and it. breaks I think it's a mason jar some. kind of a jar up his [ __ ] and it. breaks and it's just chunks of broken. glass and blood fall onto the ground as. he squat it's horrible but I watched it. multiple times God damn there's a lot of. crazy people in this world yeah do you.

think that I I I'm of the opinion let me. just say what I think I think that most. substances should be legal and I think. people should be able to figure out. what's good and what's bad there's a lot. of things that are legal Aderall is. legal I don't take Aderall you know I'm. 99% sure sure I have ADHD I don't even. know what it is I don't even know if. it's real I think it's probably a. superpower but if I went to a doctor and. I was complaining about I can't focus on. any one thing I'm I'm all over the place. they'd probably give me some and then I.

would have legal stimulants I don't. think it's probably think it's not good. for you so I don't take it but I could. right why is that legal and cocaine's. not like why is this legal and that's. not why is whiskey legal and marijuana's. not well this doesn't make any sense to. me why is Xanax legal psilocybin not. like what are we doing who gets to. decide Like You could argue that well. that's the reason why clinical trials. exist which assess you know safety. profiles of these drugs and they. wouldn't make it through otherwise but. like obviously we've seen that that's.

not once you get financial interest. involved it's kind of hard to overl that. a lot of [ __ ] makes it through that. probably shouldn't have and stuff that. maybe should have made it through didn't. make it through so you know like I am of. the opinion that you should be able to. take what you want and be educated about. it hopefully first. it's tough though because it's like if. you have a guy who's like I don't know. Manic and he has access to like meth and. like phag grade meth at that or. something yeah which it actually exists.

too oh yeah and you end up with like a. Hitler or. something yeah yeah yeah the the trend. thing is that the worst one. psychologically from anabolic steroids I. would say probably that and then maybe. secondary you know some people could. argue Halo testin is is a drug that. supposedly Mike Tyson was using when he. bit Vander Holyfield's ear off yeah and. it makes you like [ __ ] shortterm. acutely extremely angry what how did you. hear that he was using that I don't.

remember exactly I think it was like uh. he didn't test positive for it I think. it was just like highly rum like a very. prevalent rumor but I for they probably. didn't test for it though either right. no it was back then it was really easy. to get around like oral steroid. detections back then as well if they. were even testing for it um I don't even. know if they were testing back then yeah. the Tren is uh the worst offender for. your psychological State not just. because the drug is bad but it also like. ruins your sleep so you get like Trend.

cough I mentioned but Tren sweats is. another one where it almost induces like. a menopause like hot. flash uh sweating in your sleep and you. wake up just [ __ ] drenched Jesus and. it like really [ __ ] up your sleep and. it makes you hyper paranoid as well. which is no good cuz even though you're. this jacked sometimes confident guy. other times you're like you're. unreasonably insecure and you like a. very common outcome is for guys to think. their girlfriends are cheating on them.

just out of nowhere by being on Trend. really yeah and they end up becoming uh. you know oddly. behaving sexual deviancy is also a very. uh common I've heard of that yeah yeah. on Tren and it's thought to be the pro G. genic activity because it's derived from. nandrolone which is a progesterone. receptor Agonist as well and. progesterone is thought to be very. implicated in gay sexual Tendencies as.

you grow up if you had heightened. exposure to Progesterone and. utero and highly dopaminergic drug as. well which in excess can cause like. really weird sexual deviancy as well um. and yeah it's like really [ __ ] potent. and good at what it does it builds lean. mass and it's like really dry compound. doesn't make you watery also has a. unique anti-catabolic effect so you. don't in a deficit you keep muscle and. sometimes even grow while you're cutting.

and yeah so it's not like steroids don't. all do that to some degree more or less. but this drug is like uniquely potent in. its anti-catabolic action to where you. could be like extremely nutrient. deprived and still hold on to a lot of. your muscle wow and because it's so good. at making you extremely strong too. without an excess of body weight it's. like highly sought after in many sports. because you don't have to worry about. jumping up in weight class while you're. getting the strength increase that is.

like humongous wow yeah so it was one of. the drugs that was used in The Duchess. cocktail which is what Rod chanov would. have his athletes swish around in their. mouth oh really yeah and it was absorbed. uh. buul so it would like get it was almost. like the equivalent of Iving the drug. right into your bloodstream you would. swish it around your mouth and this. alcohol and it would absorb buul into. the bloodstream immediately so you. wouldn't have to actually have it go. into your stomach and then get processed. through a first past metabolism so you.

could get in and out of your system way. faster wow yeah wow so why is that one. good for Fighters uh I would think that. like getting psych emotional though yeah. you could argue that the emotional. instability is not good yeah but makes. you very aggressive um the psychoactive. effects in the gym can be very helpful. for training and stress resilience and. some people it's not everyone who. becomes Paranoid on it it's highly.

individual dependent some people you. will often hear people say oh people. overblow the side effects of trend it's. not that bad and then other people who. will say it ruin their life so it's. highly individual dependent like any. drug but it's very good at making you. extremely [ __ ] strong without blowing. you up with water retention and staving. off loss of tissue while weight cutting. as well there's another factor that. comes with steroid users and that's the. addiction to the feeling of being on.

steroids yeah because once they get off. steroids and they don't feel like. Superman anymore they get real weirded. out yeah and they want to get back on. again I've seen that oh yeah dude it's. uh the thing that will often kill people. is the desire to maintain these huge. sizes in perpetuity too cuz it's it's. like a ultimately steroid use often. stems from like body image insecurity so. if you achieve you know the outcome you. sought with this thing to think that. you're going to be you know a confident.

person after you've lost the 30 40. pounds lean that you gained right like. you were already probably somewhat. mentally not perfect to begin with. except Dorian Yates oh yeah but that guy. he's a unique cat he lost all the way. looks like a normal athlete now yeah he. healthy yeah he he had me on his podcast. uh this year and he said uh anytime he's. done seminars and people ask if he. misses being a mass monster he says. they're more upset about it than I.

am he has a unique perspective on it. which is uh really cool to see he's very. intelligent yeah yeah very calm and you. know just the way he approaches things. but God damn dude when that guy was. getting after it he was he was one of. the original freaks where one of the. first guys we just like what like that's. what they're pushing it to now yeah he. left Humanity behind so big dude he was. so big he was ridiculous if you think. about what he looked like versus what. Arnold looked like just a couple of. decades earlier oh night and day yeah.

you could argue he was like the Catalyst. almost to a heightened standard of. amount of muscle you need to be. competitive I mean he was so big he blew. his bicep out and competed in one with a. torn bicep yeah yeah yeah with like a. hole in his arm yeah that's that's. [ __ ] up when you get that big and you. have to like worry about exploding your. [ __ ] muscle every workout cuz you're. so strong and that's what you need to. lift to get the stimulus like that's. crazy stuff well Ronnie Coleman's the. crazy example of the price you pay for.

that like that guy is all [ __ ] up now. yeah yeah it makes you wonder if he. would have been the bodybuilder he was. if he just. trained higher volume and like higher. reps less weight yeah cuz literature now. suggests that you don't need to. necessarily train like that look at the. difference between the two of them. Arnold on the left and Dorian on the. right dorian's twice his size yeah it's. [ __ ] back dude that's crazy that back. isn't not that Arnold isn't insane he.

was [ __ ] pretty insane I actually think. Arnold looks better yeah he's more. aesthetic for sure oh look at his back. look at Dorian y's back and look at. Ronnie Coleman's back yeah jeez his guys. were huge Ronnie Coleman was crazy but. Dorian was like weirdly thick like look. how thick his [ __ ] muscles are man. it's just not first of all judging guys. that are that big good luck I don't get. it they all look awesome they all look. crazy dude it's even harder judging a. bikini show so there's different classes.

at the Olympia including women's bikini. and there's like a few poses they'll. pull up a comparison of the women's. Olympia for bikini what is the bikini. versus regular Olympia well it's just. like the best bikini competitors against. each other for the Olympia crown of. bikini category what's the bikini. category versus the regular Miss Olympia. category Miss Olympia is like. bodybuilding oh this isn't bodybuilding. well it's like a form of bodybuilding. but it's not the actual category right.

this is women who still look feminine so. like right put it this way with men. there's different categories there's. Open men's bodybuilding classic physique. and men's physique and each of them has. like an incremental noticeable. difference in the amount of muscle you. need to be competitive and women similar. differences exist in categories where. they have women's bikini Wellness. something else and then bodybuilding is. the one where you can you pretty much. need to be on like male level steroids.

to be competitive and this is a reality. of female bodybuilding that a lot of. female bodybuilders look I know female. Jiu-Jitsu competitors that take steroids. which is it's crazy there's not even any. money in that you're juicing yourself up. but if you want to get that lean and. maintain that much muscle as a woman. like what do they take well for bikini. you might be able to do it naturally Al. but most of them are probably still. taking a little bit something but it's. not like masculinizing there's a lot of. things they can take that are natural or. over the counter or like super micro.

doed amounts of anabolics that don't. cause masculinization but above that the. thresholds for categories above that are. like if you go to women's bodybuilding. like it looks like you remember it where. it's you know dudes with wigs on. basically almost. yeah I mean they they're trans men. basically basically yeah like like based. on their hormone profile they are more. male than you and I probably whoa God. look at that lady that's crazy is she.

Miss Olympia so she number one that's. women's physique too that's not women's. bodybuilding what yeah so this is like a. different category that's less muscle. than. bodybuilding so what's women's. bodybuilding that lady probably who's. Miss Olympia do they still have women's. bodybuilding I think they. do yeah that might be it look at that.

lady down the lower left hand jeez those. ladies are huge oh my goodness that's. got to be it those are dudes that's a. dude's body like sizewise yeah not. saying you're a dude ladies don't hurt. me yeah by the way to you know more. power to anybody who wants to do. whatever they want it's just like the. reality of the exposure to these. hormones is they are masculinizing and. you can blame Biden for that wow yeah. cuz he stopped the development of them. and by now we probably have non. masculinizing drugs that work as well as.

the ones that make you a dude oh my God. have you ever thought about bailing out. of Canada dude I would love to I've. considered it but there is weird stuff. around like unrealized capital gains and. exit taxes and [ __ ] that basically traps. you there really yeah so like I could. physically be present in the states and. live here maybe for six months of a year. but to like get out of the system fully. you got to like pay the piper on every. company you've ever built even if you.

don't have the money from it because you. never sold it there's gains that were. made in Canada of the value of it that. you have to pay on it's like how do you. pay for it I don't have any [ __ ] cash. because I didn't sell the company so. they make it very difficult to leave the. country yeah yeah and maybe that changes. with Pierre I don't know but like one of. the main problems with the economy is. there's no incentive for business owners. that are doing well to stay like. everything is structured around how do I. get around this [ __ ] system not how. do I stay here so like I know personally.

every friend I have successful has. either already left or has tried to find. a way to leave Jesus actually I know one. person who hasn't but he's like really. entrenched in the system and like it. would be impossible to one at this point. so I don't know how much of it is he. actually wants to be there or like it's. a beautiful place to live in British. Columbia for example but like yeah it's. [ __ ] cost of living is obscene and.

the tax saw that there some kids were. doing a Tik Tok with food at a Canadian. Supermarket like a bunch of chicken. wings and how much it was oh the dollar. too is horrible it's like a dollar every. dollar in US currency equates to 140. Canadian W yeah so your dollar goes. Super super far in. Canada and then 40 Jesus and then to buy. like I don't know a [ __ ] a shitty Shack. [ __ ] house that's not even a house in. Vancouver it's like millions of.

dollars. yeah nuts yeah yeah I I think the cost. of living is only exceeded maybe in real. estate by like New York. maybe wow yeah it's like one of the. Forest offenders on the planet for cost. of a home so basically back in the day. our parents one of the main ways to. become financially stable was get in. early on a property and build equity in.

it and eventually you'd have a you know. something that accured in so much value. from since you got it that like that's. your main nest egg or whatever yeah. nowadays it's it's not even possible to. afford the lowest threshold of a. mortgage on like a place that's not even. nice so you have like families staying. in like 500 square foot apartments with. big families because they can't afford. anything else it says impossibly. unaffordable housing report ranks. Vancouver third most expensive in the.

world yeah Hong Kong and Sydney the only. two wow Sydney that's interesting huh I. would have never suspected Sydney. Australia to be that expensive that's. nuts yeah listen brother anything else. you want to talk about before we bail. out of here think it was a good one yeah. yeah lot of fun yeah thanks for having. me man I appreciate you as always miss. Miss Olympia Wellness we missed out on. what's that a focus on the lower body. what oh butts yeah top half doesn't. matter oh yeah so I was going to say top. half doesn't matter for real shut the.

[ __ ] up why are they stand in Face. Forward glutes and hips let's see them. glutes it definitely M matters but not. as much as it's not focus I should say. yeah so anyway watching the. posing you you were saying it's hard to. judge men's bodybuilding with women. it's at least with the bikini category. especially their hair is really long and. they have extensions too to make it look. even longer so when they turn around. basically the only thing you can judge. is like ass down essentially cuz their.

whole back is covered by hair oh that's. weird yeah so it's like a pageant for. your. butt I'm all in no I could by the way. like any bikini competitor is probably. [ __ ] furious with that statement. there's Absolut they're on Trend they're. going to get angry probably not but like. they're judged on other things but. that's a the main factor basically okay. all right man well been a lot of fun uh. more PL more plates more dates uh on. YouTube uh what is uh your website yeah.

more plates more dates.com and anything. else no that's all right my place. brother I good to see you all right bye. everybody. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music].