Joe Rogan Experience #2225 - Dave Smith

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day and I couldn't even after we got off. the phone last night I was like I'm. going to go to bed now get a few and. then I just had to watch Clips what time. did I call you like 3: 3:30 something. like that yeah I was just sitting in. front of YouTube watching professional. pool on TV going what the [ __ ] is going. on so turns out voting works.

it's real as much as we [ __ ] thought. they had it rigged as much as we thought. there were Shenanigans and [ __ ] and. it's just a a puppet show and there's no. way anybody could Buck the system turns. out voting is still real at least. partially at least if it's too big to. rig and clearly he was too big to rig. yeah wasn't it it it was crazy because. it was like for for weeks especially in. the close of the campaign it was one of. those things where it felt like it it.

almost felt like uh 2008 when Obama was. running against McCain and it was just. so obvious Obama was running away with. this everything you could see and and. observe his crowd sizes the enthusiasm. the culture it was all behind him but at. that time the polls were reflecting what. you saw everywhere Obama's up big he's. about to John McCain's not going to win. after eight years of George W bush the. country doesn't want another Warhawk. they want this you know articulate young. peace guy right and it was like that.

with Trump where it's like all the signs. are that he's clearly running away with. this but then every single poll told you. no this is the closest election of your. lifetime and then it was just there was. a very interesting feeling to see it and. be like oh okay I'm not crazy I was. observing all the things I was observing. do you know what what Trump told me. about the polls no what he's like. they're [ __ ] they don't do anything. you give them money they come back they. have these results you don't know he was. like they charge 500 grand for he's.

right yeah he's right and the media. gaslit us to the the the absolute limits. of their ability the absolute limits Joy. Reed spent the entire time she was. discussing Trump the other day comparing. him to melini Stalin Hitler talking. about a right-wing authoritarian regime. as if he had never been president for. four years and didn't behave like any of. those things.

as if the economy wasn't booming as if. people weren't making more money as if. we weren't involved in any new conflicts. overseas no new Wars I I mean I could I. could point to a lot of things Trump did. in his four years that I think were bad. but they were things that were similar. to Obama and Bush and you know it was. different he could point to them too you. know when I talked to him about what it. was like to actually govern for the. first time ever it's a daunting task he. was telling me about the thousands and. thousands of appointments he had to make.

thousands of people he had to pick he. didn't know who any of these people were. he had to trust people that he knew and. he didn't know who was telling him the. truth and who was just trying to get the. system moving along in the exact same. direction and he got bogged down with a. lot of that [ __ ] it took forever for. them to weed it out which is the crazy. thing about being president it's the. hardest job on the planet and you start. it without any knowledge of it well. that's yeah and I mean a little bit of. that's on him cuz there were some people. who he probably should have known what I. didn't like in his answer about to you.

is that then he kind of pivoted uh to. talking about how John Bolton was. actually really good to have there. because ter terrifying and he's crazy oh. this guy wants war with everyone but the. problem is that like that's not how it. went down John Bolton ruined the North. Korea deal it's not like it it was. successful and the North Koreans were so. scared of John Bolton that they wanted. to talk to Donald Trump they were at the. meeting they were willing to talk to. Donald Trump and then John Bolton came. in and they were like this these guys. are psychopaths I don't want to make a. deal with them.

alone and I I will say look man I was uh. I was rooting for Trump last night as. much as anybody in this country was as. much as Tony hinchcliff okay second. second most second to Tony HFF. Tony more Puerto Ricans voted for Trump. than ever ever by up 26% he was so well. but wasn't it what and wasn't that just. one of the it was look there's obviously. a huge series of these things where the. the Democrat establishment and the the. corporate media but I repeat myself uh.

they it's death by a thousand. self-inflicted wounds but it it is. almost as if it's like their whole thing. relies on lies it's just all lies and. they are just they are have their eyes. shut and their fingers in their ears and. they're going no no nope we're just. pretending reality is the thing we want. it to be they don't want to get slowed. down by this this force that is. objective reality and so all of it you.

know whether it's Joe Biden's sharp is. attack Camala Harris is Joy you know uh. Donald Trump is Hitler Tony hinchcliff. was a man at an event who made some. comments did like he wasn't really that. wasn't a comedian who was riing. everybody not only that but an insult. comedian comedian who's famous for. insulting people and we're supposed to. act like this it's not 2024 like we. didn't all grow up on Don Rickles and we. all know exactly what Tony hinchcliff is. doing did you see the clip that the [ __ ].

posted it's on my Instagram so they're. talking about the the comedian who made. jokes about Puerto Rico while Tony's on. stage on the other screen so Tony's on. stage at the mothership while this guy's. talking about what Tony did on CNN and. they're going over like the Puerto Rican. population and how they voted pull it up. because it's [ __ ] crazy we were. watching it Meer was back there we the. whole green room was packed we were. having the best [ __ ] time there. should have been a camera on the green. room last night would have been the. greatest reality show of all time Brian.

Simpson and Tony hinchliff and Assan. everybody's cracking jokes meder look at. this the Puerto Rican oh dude that's so. great I just said after that we're in a. simulation for sure yeah it we're it's. on the video I said we're in a. simulation it's on % well it's just like.

it is just unbelievable man like the the. the false reality that they were trying. to present while you're while you're. watching what's actually going on and. seeing that it's like there was just an. enormous shift like culturally from say. even 2016 to now and I did I thought one. of the big indicators to me I was. talking about this a bunch on my show. over the last uh uh couple weeks was or. since the garden event whatever that was. a week and a half ago and dude there.

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chant it was terrible the biggest cuck. ever it was like super cuck the guy was. a super cuck he was one of those guys. where he just like look at you I wanted. to follow him around I'm like you're. amazing you're a gift keep talking just. let me listen to you like what's your. life like after this two black guys. started walking towards his way he. started chanting black lives matter as. soon as he saw the black guys black guys. black lives matter black lives matter I. was like this is amazing I stuck right. behind him me and cam Haynes and I think. Tony was there too and we were just this.

is crazy this is crazy but they don't. seem to have that in the same way the. shock troops aren't there for them. anymore it's [ __ ] first of all back. then they didn't know what he was going. to do and what he did economically. chamath has the best way of explaining. it he said it was the right message was. the wrong messenger but if you look at. the actual actions and were they good. for the economy were they good for the. United States they were but it's Donald. Trump as the messenger was so polarizing. the people lost what's really going on.

just based on who this guy is who has. like just like Tony hinchliff is an. insult comic Donald Trump's entire. career is you're fired y you're a loser. Ros o' Donald's a loser like that's his. whole stick and you expect him to course. correct once he get into office no he's. not that's not who he is you elected. that guy but along with that now you get. RFK Jr you get Tulsi gabard you get Elon. musk and you get JD Vance you get.

brilliant people who aren't. ideologically captured two of them who. used to be Democrats one of them that. probably knows more about environmental. polluting and about the problems with. pharmaceutical drug companies and health. and the consequences of all sorts of. pesticides and herbicides ingredients in. your food that should be banned and are. banned in another country you got that. guy in there now and we got a real. chance to make real change this is like. one of the first times ever where. there's a real chance to make real.

tangible change that's going to be for. the good of everybody he's got to unite. people he's got to not attack the left. and not attack everybody let them all. talk their [ __ ] but unite now it's time. to unite everybody well I 100% And then. there's there's even more guys I mean V. ramaswami David Sachs I mean he's got. some really smart guys are very. successful who are really V's incredible. which just excellent and totally.

brilliant and so right about so many of. the major issues um and and look I mean. Donald Trump now he has a real mandate. which is like th this is kind of what's. crazy this isn't 2016 where you know he. lost by several million votes in the. popular vote but won the counties that. were important and just by the skin of. his teeth got in this is like he's I. mean the last I looked he was up by over. 5 million in the popular vote 5 million. in the popular vote and what was it when.

when I went to bed it was. 312 yeah he had 312 Electoral College. votes yeah with still I think a few. States uh Arizona I think hasn't you. know finished yet and so it might it. might even rack up higher than that but. the Mandate is like very specific it's. like the basic policies of like okay. immigration control can't have just have. an open border with no control of who. comes into our country a desire to get. out of stupid Foreign Wars you know and. um and and obviously the improve the.

economy deal with inflation things like. that but he's got a mandate to do that. right now and he's got all some great. people around him my bit listen I was. rooting for him as hard as anyone except. Tony henchcliffe last night uh but but I. will say now I think now till January. 20th the real the pressure should be on. on Trump to to do better on the. appointments than he did last time he's. got a lot of better people around him. than he ever had in 20 2016 or 2020 but.

he was floating out Mike Pompeo as the. Secretary of Defense and he did have. Mike Pompeo speak at his final uh. campaign event and ju to be clear Mike. Pompeo is Liz Cheney's pick for defense. secretary it's Hillary Clinton's pick. for uh defense secretary and so much of. this will be lost if he puts that guy in. there this he he needs to keep all of. the Lindsey grahams and the Mike Pompeo. and all of these guys away from his.

administration bring bring in the. non-interventionists man no one wants to. fight these stupid Wars anymore and. that's what you ran on and one on I want. lindsy graham to start a podcast that. I'd be fine with we got to get those. minerals there's some expansive minerals. over there in. Ukraine Tim Dylan was doing an. impression of him yesterday it was. amazing it was amazing oh dude I don't. even like maybe I should no he deserves. it but there did you see the thing when. he was running for president where he.

was talking he ran for president lindsy. Graham ran for president that's amazing. in 2016. imagine I think Trump gave his phone. number out or something like that yeah. yeah you don't remember that it was like. cuz he was like attacking Donald Trump. for probably not being an awful war hawk. or something like that and uh Donald. Trump like said something about how he. he used to call him and ask for money. you know when he was running for. campaign that he just gave his phone. number out the best he made he made a. senator change his phone number it just.

so great that's like a cha sunon move. yeah it was just it was amazing so funny. amazing but he said uh Lindsey Graham. was asked about being the first single. president yeah never married and he goes. uh he goes he goes there might be a. bunch of different first ladies if I was. in there like yeah sure buddy first of. all that's the last thing you say if. you're a man and you're heterosexual you. say I'm trying to find a good woman yeah. really I'm trying to just find one good. woman that I can grow with and that I.

love with all my heart just one good. woman I know that she's out there that's. what you say might be a bunch of first. ladies I'm going get divorced and. married and divorced and married and. keep on scooping up them minerals in the. Ukraine I a give those minals to the. Russians we're just walking around with. women's panties on and [ __ ] and high. [Music]. he I'm the president I mean listen I. would I'm I'm the first lady too I'm. going to wear her clothes I typically. wouldn't go after someone for that but.

when you're a war a war hawk all yeah. All is fair but he's just got to he's. got to keep those people away from him. man and that really was his failure in. his in his first term was and and look I. do understand him saying I don't know he. was an outsider he had never been he had. never lived in Washington DC he didn't. know all these people but he's had a lot. of time this is eight years later and. he's got a great core of people around. him and those are the people to take. advice from it's like Mr President if. you're listening it right now well talk. to Rand Paul Rand Paul will tell you who. put in those positions talk to Thomas.

Mass I just saw he floated out Thomas. Massie um for I I can't remember what uh. position it was that's great put those. guys in there these are the America. First guys okay and it's not Mike Pompeo. it's not the war machine dude and it's. and also you know look his rhetoric was. so great on Ukraine through through the. election and when he had the courage to. just say like no I want the I want the. dying to stop that was one of the best. moments of the entire campaign but his.

rhetoric on Israel has been very bad and. the the other thing that you can't get. around is that like listen you can love. Israel all you want to and you can you. can pledge to help defend them or. whatever but no I'm okay uh but uh but. Netanyahu is John McCain right that's. who he is I mean he's Mike Pompeo he's. Liz Cheney or Nikki Haley he's the guy. who came over and testified in 2002. before a congressional hearing advocated. that we overthrow Saddam Hussein and.

also advocated that we go have a regime. change war in Iran which he still wants. to this day he advocated we had the. regime change in in Libya in Syria I. mean he's John McCain that's not America. first that's not you know what I mean. that's not this we're not fighting. stupid Wars anymore so love Israel all. you want to but we're not with BB. Netanyahu that's something else that's. the opposite of America First yeah a lot. can get done here man he I think he can. listen to those people he has four.

amazing people around him you know that. really have experience like especially. Tulsi congresswoman for 8 years RFK Jr. knows it inside and out you've got Vance. who's brilliant you got V who's. brilliant you got four incredible people. with him yeah he can I think he can get. through this in a different way than he. did in 2016 I I think he's the There's. real possibilities for it and I think. that that's a huge component of it uh. the team that he's got around him and I.

would also put um I would put Tucker. Carlson in that camp too because I think. he is very influential in on his. thinking I think in in many ways he's. kind of although he does think demons. made nuclear bombs and look 5050 shot. he's right about that I'm not saying. he's but when it comes to policy I'm. saying he's very spoton on that I love. the guy don't get me wrong no me too and. and who he's a little bit obsessed with. demons he said a demon attacked him did. you see that yeah scratched him up I did. see that and I wasn't sure I I when I.

was watching it I was like is this like. a Halloween thing that why are you. laughing that's so rude he's a victim of. demons sounds like a fun thing that. could I don't what happened that's the. thing like demons never really get you. you know they scare like ghosts they. never steal you yeah it's true neither. do aliens they bring you back they. always bring you back it's like they. borrow you for a little bit they freak. you out do you think like demons are. bummed about that like they're like did. you kill anyone today and they're like. we can only really scratch people Tucker. thinks aliens are demons yeah I know Ali. are angels and demons he thinks it's.

like this idea that they come from out. of space is stupid he said they've been. he thinks they've been here all along. this is like legit scientist that. entertain this yeah I'm not convinced of. that but I do think he's really I think. he's great on war and immigration he is. he's a brilliant guy but I do I do think. another huge component of why Trump's. got such an opportunity right now is. because like you just you see it where. like I was saying the protesters aren't. there anymore a whole lot of really. interesting reasons I think for why that.

is but also and I was I was getting in. an argument um on Twitter the other day. with uh Michael Tracy who I do like and. respect very much um but I was basically. saying that I think this is going to be. a death blow for the corporate media if. Donald Trump wins again and this is. almost the best thing about him winning. again and he was saying which is a. reasonable argument but I disagree with. him but he was saying well no Dave I. mean look last time he was in for 4. years that that was the best thing that. ever happened to and MSNBC and they got.

a big ratings boost when when he was in. but I don't think that's going to work. again I don't think it's going to work. either well the thing is that so much of. that ratings boost was completely driven. by The Rush gate nonsense and what they. were telling you at the time was that. they had the biggest scandal in the. history of the United States of America. like that you can't overstate how big. that story is I mean they were telling. you true yeah right if if it wasn't all. completely made up but they're reporting. that a foreign hostile foreign power has.

overturned our election and the sitting. president of the United States of. America is in on it he is involved in a. conspiracy with a hostile foreign. government like that's the biggest. scandal in the history of America and. they for for anybody who wasn't aware at. the time of how fake and evil the entire. system is they were like well look they. got a special prosecutor on the. president I mean there must be something. there and Hey I just heard the the chair. of the house intelligence committee tell.

me he's seen the evidence and that this. is he's guilty of this and you had the. former CIA director John Brennan saying. that Trump and his family are going to. be uh hauled off in handcuffs on. television once Mueller's investigation. concludes and so for the regular person. especially for the regular person who. really hated Donald Trump it was pretty. easy to get sucked into that but after. that was exposed for being a giant fake. and then the big one is co I just don't. think they can recover let's pause here. no repercussions yeah you want to talk.

about misinformation we have to censor. social media because of misinformation. you guys spread it misinformation to the. biggest news organization the biggest. news audience in the world and you did. it for three years yeah you did it for. three years and then when it turned out. that it wasn't true you never apologize. and didn't just turn out it wasn't true. but turned out it was actually funded by. Clinton well it start right it started. as opposition research and then the. intelligence agencies jumped on that and. decided knowing that it was all [ __ ].

decided to use it to frame the sitting. president of the United States of. America of treason and and listen I a. few episodes back one time we heard we. went real deep into this but that claim. is this is just a fact they lied on the. fisa court uh the fisa court uh. application to spy on Carter page who. was a low-level adviser for Donald Trump. just an excuse to spy on Trump's. campaign and they lied to the five they. they omitted the fact that the CIA had.

already told them that Carter page. wasn't a spy and that he was working. with them and that he was one of their. good guys as the FBI went to the CIA and. they were like we have information that. says that the Russians approached Carter. page and the CIA said yeah we know he. came and told us immediately cuz he's. working with us and then what they put. on the fisa application is they said we. believe that the Russians approached him. and the CIA confirmed that was true whoa. so they which is technically. true you're the fact that he went.

straight to them to tell us exactly so. this that was by the way the only guy. who actually got charged was the person. was the FBI guy who submitted that. application but so well that's good. that's yeah but look when you said there. were no ramifications right you're right. in the sense of like legally or people. getting fired New Media yes but I'm. saying this is the ramification the. ramification is that they're not going. to be able to pull it off again and the. ramification is that look they they did.

everything they could to tell you this. was a Nazi this was the end of democracy. he incited an Insurrection and the. American people said we already get that. you're full of [ __ ] they cried wolf y. too many times way too many times way. too many times the Joy Reed stuff was. working for trump it was working for. Trump when she's calling him a. right-wing dictator comparing him to. melini and Stalin and then when Oprah. said that if Trump wins you may never be. able to vote.

again that is it's just so ridic the. craziest thing when you go back and. watch him on her show where she was. encouraged him to be president yeah you. ever see that yep yep I saw I I saw it. and then I saw when you played it uh. fairly recently uh hey opra what changed. yeah that's right well here's what. changed all a sudden well he became the. guy who wasn't just funding a lot of. politicians and being like a famous guy. and he became the guy who was calling. all of them out and threat to drain the. swamp yeah and that's really was his.

crime is that he threatened the DC power. establishment but it's crazy how many. rich and famous people stepped in line. to help them take him out yep like so. many famous influential people and I. give a pass to cardi B I give a pass do. you know what I'm saying yeah I agree I. agree I don't think Amber Rose knows. what Trump's real policies are you know. what I'm saying I give a pass to some. celebrities that come out but then when. you have some of them that are making.

videos all the Avengers get together. like hey you trying to get me to hate. superhero movies you trying to show me. your real [ __ ] weird personalities. and get me to hate superhero movies why. are you doing that if I was running the. Avengers I'd be like hey guys cut the. [ __ ] do you think one [ __ ] person is. going to vote for KLA Harris because. they saw that Iron Man wants them to. vote for commis are you [ __ ] crazy. well it's so look man I mean did they. think that one one Puerto Ricans vote.

was going to be flipped because of a. joke that Tony made by the way Puerto. Ricans are known for being great insult. Comics yeah like Lis Gomez great insult. comic the [ __ ] Freddy Prince Jr was a. great comic Puerto Rico has a history of. great comedy they can talk some [ __ ]. Puerto if you grew up in New York at all. you know Puerto Ricans talk a lot of. [ __ ] Lou is one of the best [ __ ] talkers. I've ever met also garbage. like Italians Italian and I'm Italian.

Italians and Puerto Ricans have a lot in. common that we talk a lot of [ __ ] to. each other so we don't get insulted that. much by jokes it's not the same thing. like it's very hard to insult an Italian. and have it stick it doesn't work you. can call him a guido like yeah I'm a. guido you can call him a grease ball no. one cares you you no one go back to your. country I no one's been there in [ __ ]. Generations it's also my my wife is. Italian and her all my in-laws her whole. family is Italian and it is like when. you have a dinner it's just everyone.

yells animal like everything's a yell R. like I'll I'll literally her her my. brother-in-law who I love is a great guy. super smart but he will if he's agreeing. with you in a conversation and you were. like in the Next Room you would be like. is David about to fight his. brother-in-law like what's going on in. there no he's just agreeing with what. I'm saying but he's screaming it at me. you know but that but it is a thing. where it's very they're very thick. skinned they're not they're not like. fresh people it's one of my favorite. things Puerto Ricans are also look at.

Puerto Rico some of the best boxers of. all time came out of Puerto Rico it's. one [ __ ] Island you got Felix. Trinidad you got Gomez withfo Gomez you. got incredible Fighters came out this. one place you have a [ __ ] tough. population man yeah it's not the I mean. I'm sure there was a few people that. were pissed off at that joke but the. reality is this one of the things that. helped Tony is that joke was based about. Tony's concern for the environment Tony. is obsessed with recycling he's like you. know recycling is [ __ ] you know it. all goes in a landfill you you put I'm.

going to put it in the blue bin it all. goes in a landfill so Tony was obsessed. with the Pacific Garbage Patch and then. he got obsessed with Puerto Rico because. they don't have any room so their. landfills are just overflowing with. garbage they literally have a giant. garbage problem so he came up with a. joke based around that I think it's. called Puerto Rico I I I was texting. with him um after it and I I thought it. was so great I mean I thought even the. uh his. the bit that he did on Israel Palestine.

was so funny he he uh ripped both sides. and then he did by the same with the. Puerto Rico thing there was an. underlying really good point to it which. is always like the best comedy when. you're just being funny but at the same. time you're like a and he did kind of. nail that too where he was just like why. are we funding Wars that have been going. on forever like figure it out guys and. then he just got a great rip on Muslims. a great rip on Jews and so the way they. picked out Puerto Rican going on in the. morning there's no opening act no one.

knows there's going to be comedy the. most difficult setup and there's no one. on before him other than a prayer they. do a prayer they sing they were singing. prayers and songs and then the music. stops and Tony goes on flat to a bunch. of people in the middle of the day well. the lights are on bright it makes no. sense it's the worst setup of all time. for comedy I remember in real time when. I was watching it like being like uh I. was like well I mean Tony's not going to. be able to do Tony in this setup so like. I wonder what he's going to do and then.

like as it starts you're like oh he's. just going to do Tony oh that's crazy. dude it's the nut should have never done. it but the fact that he did it whatever. it's like listen man there's going to be. some people that tried to capitalize on. that and that was a big thing like AOC. really mobilized which is funny because. I'm almost certain that aoc's been to. see Kil Tony really yes huh interesting. almost certain almost certain. I don't think so here but somewhere saw.

kill. Tony she probably loves it they're all. so funny I wonder who let's call him up. all right let's get to the bottom of the. wait we have access call Tony. hinchliff hey dude you're live you're. live on the air right now with Dave. Smith I need to answer a question I need. a question answered did AOC ever come to. see kill Tony. she says that she did but we're almost.

positive that she didn't I never met her. in any of the shows in La I mean she. could have conceivably have bought a. ticket to Madison Square Garden but she. never posted about it well she probably. wouldn't post about it's too sketchy. your your show's sketchy but so how do. you know that she says that she was. there she tweeted that she's been to a. taping when all that stuff went down she. said that she's disappointed in me and. she's been to a taping I can't remember.

the exact tweet right now but it was the. day of the the day of the Madison Square. Garden Trump thing she posted I'm really. disappointed in Tony Hinchcliffe I'm a. fan of Kel Tony and been to a taping. something like that I don't want to. misquote her like she would certainly do. to. me but she's been there and she was. surprised it makes no. sense yeah no no nothing these people. [ __ ] say make any sense they're out.

of their goddamn minds and now their. voices are quieted thank God Tony. America's back baby America's back let. let's [ __ ] go let's [ __ ] go I. gotta go brother I love you rock and. roll. byebye nobody who's ever been to kill. Tony would be disappointed it didn't. matter a political tool it's like if you. need you have a wrench here's a b I need. I need to use the wrench that's what it. was like so AOC was sending telling.

people send it out in all your group. chats let people. know it's not they're not they're not. the most sensitive PE they're like. resilient people they're not going to. people are going to get upset about a. joke but they're also going to. understand it's just a [ __ ] joke and. then when they know and then when some. if someone does tell them oh Puerto Rico. really does have a giant garbage problem. like it's a giant problem overflowing. lamp you ever see it yeah yeah it's. crazy look at the images you're like oh. my God you got to do something about. this you can't cover your Island in.

garbage this is nuts yeah it's look it's. I I just like I was saying before though. man I just I do like I feel like if you. zoom out like if if you look at it. closely you would be like like you said. with the um sorry oh yeah yeah she said. she's been to she's been to shows yeah. wow before people try to act like this. is some PC overly sensitive nonsense. which is what it is I've been to kill. Tony shows I'm from the Bronx I don't. give a [ __ ] about crude humor then what. are you doing what you pretend that your.

support for Trump is a joke own it. you're doing a set to support him that's. a choice listen you guys have a real. problem with someone disagreeing with. you and you you want to in any way shape. or form that's possible turn that person. into a demon you never want to have. someone who has an opposing perspective. that should be considered or maybe. countered with better information which. is what we're all supposed to be doing. ideally with people of good character.

and who go into arguments with good. faith you should be able to respectfully. disagree and have conversations with. things this is like everybody who thinks. one way is bad everybody who thinks this. way is good we'll do whatever we can to. destroy the people that are that way. Obama uh there was a guy there was a guy. at the Trump rally that said that Puerto. Rico is a pile of garbage those are. human beings like was that hey was that. guy maybe telling a joke yeah telling a. joke you know what jokes are you're my. age you know what jokes are what are we.

doing come on come on bro like we what. are we doing we we all grew up on like. in in the America of Howard Stern and. The Simpsons and all this stuff it's not. like jokes are foreign to any of us yeah. we all forgot about super bad we forget. about Tropic Thunder do we forget how. those things work right and you know and. and our point is so stupid I mean she's. like hey you're a trump supporter own it. it's like yeah he's speaking at a trump. event at Madison Square Garden but I'm. saying just the fact that he's there.

clearly already says yeah I'm supporting. this guy and then he's a comedian so. he's like I'm gonna do what I do here. with it you know and if if you want if. AOC wanted to come out and say something. like she'd go listen I'm actually a fan. of Tony I really like the show kill Tony. I don't she goes I don't think it's. appropriate add up political event to. have insult comic that'd be a reasonable. thing to say okay F I don't think it was. appropriate yes but that's kind of on. the caign that's on the campaign that's.

not Tony you know what I mean and like. so but that's not what she's saying and. again it's like you know look if you to. the point you were making before right. about the the Russia collusion hoax and. no one getting in trouble for it if you. were to look at uh say the weapons of. mass destruction lie that got us into. war in Iraq killed a million people cost. trillions of dollars and tens of. thousands of our bravest young men. blowing their brains out you know just. unmitigated disaster. and none of the people who who sold that.

uh lost their jobs or are you know. they're not like I don't know what they. should be doing maybe like picking up. garbage by the side of the road. apologizing to every car that passes. them I don't know let's pause for a. second and compare there's people that. said that there was weapons of mass. destruction they willfully created this. story it's it's a fake story 100% no one. got in trouble Trump paid off some lady. who says he [ __ ] her yep and uh made a. book kicking error so he got hit with 34. felonies yep now if you want to just be.

that person that says he's a convicted. felon and just repeat it over and over. again understand that now you're. changing what the law means because you. don't like a guy and that can be used on. you this is what happens in. dictatorships this is what happens when. communism takes over a country and you. get a military dictatorship they just. throw the laws at you and they're doing. it right in front of your face and. you're okay repeating it he's a. convicted felon he's a convicted felon.

he's a convicted felon for 34. misdemeanors which were all the same. thing which weren't really felonies. which weren't felonies and were past the. statute of limitation so how much do you. hate Freedom yeah it's not listen none. of the Trump uh uh legal charges were um. an example. where look the the former president of. the United States of America clearly. broke the law and uh we don't want to. politicize you know the the legal system.

here but it's so obvious he broke the. law that we have to prosecute him it was. we're coming up with a novel legal. theory that we've never prosecuted. anyone under before and if you interpret. it this way then we could interpret this. misdemeanor that's passed the statute of. limitations as a felony that so now how. does this not freak out liberals who are. obsessed with criminal reform because. they've never cuz that's not their side. of the issue just think about how n that. is one of best things that I do on the. show is when I have Josh Dubin on who.

used to work with the Innocence Project. and now does things on his own where. they're trying to find people that have. been unfairly prosecuted by bad judges. and by bad prosecutors and get them out. of [ __ ] jail oh can I just say real. quick dude because if I don't I I want. to make sure I say this while we're here. but to uh President elect Donald Trump. dude he he came to the libertarian party. convention uh this year and he promised. us and a whole bunch of people myself. and included like supported him um for. this and he he did carry I think the.

libertarian vote um and he promised us. he was going to uh free Ross alri on day. one and like if you're listening Mr. President if this gets to you please. please come through on that promise man. this kid is done over a decade in jail. already his he was guilty of creating a. website you know he it it it was like a. dark web type thing and I guess some. people sold drugs on it and stuff but L. he he's done 10 years over 10 years yeah. have you ever seen the documentary on. that yeah it's interesting because I.

know his mom seems like he was. railroaded yeah 100% yeah it seems like. they they came up with some sort of a. phony murder for higher charge well they. so they accused him of that but then. they withdrew that charge he was never. convicted of that he's he got life. without parole for making a website and. I've just I've gotten to know his mother. uh Lyn over the years and she's like the. sweetest lady and she's just in the. middle of this nightmare like her whole. life has been a night for the last 11. years or whatever it's been and just I.

really just please come through on that. one there's no political Capital even to. be spent on it it's one of the best. things he did when he was president last. year was uh last time was you know. freeing people who were just in jail on. BS and way over prosecuted and he said. he was going to do it on day one and I'm. just saying we a lot of people supported. him for that I really hope he comes. through that would be amazing well we're. going to know a lot about what he's. going to do whether he comes through or. not that'll tell us a lot if he comes. through I think a lot of people will be. able to hear wouldn't you love to see.

him on a podcast wouldn't you love to. talk to him on a podcast and ask him. questions about what actually happened. yeah well look now that we know what we. know now like the FBI did this whole. internal thing with him and they they. used people and agents to trap him but. now what we know about what they did. with the kidnapping case for gret. Gretchen Whitmer we didn't know that. before we didn't know that you could. have a kidnapping case where there's 14. people and 12 of them are FBI informant. so you got 12 people working with the.

FBI two retards and you convince these. dumb asses that they should go and. kidnap the [ __ ] governor and they're. like cause playing these guys are idiots. they they might have been playing. [ __ ] game of Dungeons and Dragons in. the woods they're idiots well it's. there's an old say people there's an old. saying uh it goes something like uh the. FBI always gets their man because it's. always their man yeah you know it's like. dude there's been there's been dozens. and dozens of these FBI what they call. sting operations which are really.

entament or since 911 where they get oh. we thwarted another terrorist attack but. no they didn't thwart a terrorist attack. they planned a terrorist attack and then. thwarted it like it was never going to. happen by the way a little note on that. every single time I just find this. fascinating every time the FBI wants to. do one of these terrorist entament. things which again they've done dozens. and dozens of since 9/11 every time when. they approach uh like young Muslim guys. who are like on radical websites or. something like that every time they.

never go up there and they say Hey how. do you feel about America being free and. prosperous or how do you feel about the. fact that we don't have Sharia law here. or anything they never do that they. always go how do you feel about American. foreign policy look at all these. innocent Muslims that we're killing over. there in that part of the world doesn't. that make you angry doesn't that make. you want to do something about it you. see like when the FBI wants to do. entament all of the sudden they know. what motivates terrorism they're not. like oh you hate us for our freedom or. to the they how to people they go how do.

you feel about all these Palestinian. babies Ked right now you know that's. America's money and weapons that are. doing it and that's how they get them. but it's all it's uh if you look at the. First World Trade Center uh attack was. all just the FBI screwed it up yeah they. were following it the whole time then. they screwed it up and they almost took. down the towers and if we got to hear or. Brook's story I better it be wild wildly. different than the narrative that we. heard in the courtroom or it was in the. documentary I bet it's wildly different.

and I wouldn't be surprised if he got. railroaded just we know too much now we. know about that case there there's. multiple different cases there's the. Dallas case where they got that kid to. blow up a building they gave him a fake. bomb and a cell phone and he activated. they they radicalized that kid he was. just a dumb low IQ kid that's you know. 19 [ __ ] gullible and they they talked. him into joining and here's what we're. going to do and and then they say. they're preventing crime like you're. actually making it you're making it and.

then stopping it and that's a that's. [ __ ] wrong you're cheating you're. rigging the pinball game man you [ __ ]. you you're and we know that now so it. would be really interesting to his hear. his story yeah 10 years is [ __ ]. plenty too much way too much yeah no you. can never give that back to them but. like just let them go free and it's also. just such a situation where you just you. know and obviously like I I know his. mother so I'm like you know I'm kind of. personally invested in it but it's like. this kid is no threat it's that nobody.

thinks like oh if we let him out you. know he's some type of violent criminal. who might do another violent thing or. something like that like that's just not. going to happen you could just end the. nightmare that this sweet woman is going. through and and him of course too okay. so we both agree on this but let me ask. you okay what about Snowden do you think. he has the balls to Pardon Snowden well. okay so the thing about Snowden right is. that and now the Julian Assange case has. kind of been taken off the table even. though I guess technically he could. still pardon him um but uh that takes.

real political Capital now I think he. should pardon Snowden how so but well. I'm just saying that like Snowden pissed. off a lot of very powerful people the. NSA are Furious about him the CIA they. don't like him and they do not want to. set the president that you can release. the fact that we're doing a bunch of. illegal [ __ ] that we are lying to the. American people about and then you can. go tell them that we are in fact doing. the thing that we lied and said we. weren't doing they don't like that. there's going to be powerful forces. that'll oppose you Ross alri doesn't. it's not like that I completely.

understand if you if he were to Pardon. Snowden that would be a real signal that. he is willing to take on the Deep State. he's willing to take on the real. powerful entrenched interest now again. I'm not claiming to it's obviously the. right thing to do morally speaking. but I'm you got to have a really smart. strategy if you're actually going to do. this you know I remember one time uh. during the Ron Paul. presidential campaign I think it was in. 2012 and someone asked him you know like.

a question about like when you're in. there and you're president are you going. to tell the CIA like hey you you guys. are done and you're this and you're this. and he went well I might say it a little. bit nicer than that he was like he was. like listen I like I am trying to. abolish the CIA but let's be cool here. well let's just fa face let's look at. this for what it is so if Edward stoden. if he really did expose things that were. illegal that were not supposed to be. done and the fear of bringing him back. is that the people that did the illegal.

things want to continue doing illegal. things and don't want to have any. repercussions for doing illegal things. that seems like a crazy thing to support. even for them to defend it sounds insane. they should want internal accountability. they should want to make sure that no. one colors Outside the Lines no one does. anything without Congressional approval. all the stuff you're supposed to do when. you're doing certain things but the. problem is now with the the fdaa and. visa and all these different laws that. have been passed that allow surveillance.

to be done warrantless like it's kind of. a moot point almost at this point like. the things that you would like back then. he exposed that they could listen to. every calls they the data centers well. we all know that now like it he's it's. everything's still functioning but we. all know that now the guy that exposed. all that leave him alone you guys were. you're doing illegal [ __ ] and now it's. kind of legal we still should be. outraged but now you can kind of just do.

it yeah well and and also and one of the. things that was so disappointing about. Trump not pardoning Julian Assange and. Snowden in his first term and and again. a lot of that is because it's like when. he told you and why didn't he release. the the JFK files well because he was. listening to Liz Cheney's pick for. defense secretary Mike Pompeo and he was. people convinced him not to do it but. it's like at a certain point you're like. okay first of all the spying that. Snowden exposed was weaponized against.

you right like they spied on you so you. kind of I would think you have some like. stake in being like yeah that should be. exposed and and should be abolished but. don't you think he didn't pardon him. because he wanted a second term and he. wanted to like make things run as. smoothly as possibly and try to theising. they're making deals here yes but he. also had a lame duck period I mean he. had a period where he knew he wasn't. going have a second term and still had. the power but he was worried about the. impeachment and he wanted to run again.

yes he always wanted to run again he was. going to run again he was like think so. [ __ ] you I'm run it again yes so there's. there's a fair point to that maybe now. Donald Trump gets in and I do think this. is what the corporate media and all of. them are really terrified about is that. now he gets in and he doesn't need to. win another election I mean he'd like to. win a midterm election and keep the I. mean he's got the Senate now we'll see. the house hasn't been determined yet but. he'd like to keep you know Congressional. control within the Republican party but. he doesn't need to worry about a a. reelection now if he really wanted to do.

the be the drain the swamp guy yes he's. got an opportunity now where I just uh a. lot of things have have aligned where. it's like I think he could really get it. done and I think he could get away with. that I think that he's kind of he's. taken all their bullets both literally. and metaphorically you know he's he's. been impeached he's been convicted of. felony he's been shot at he's like all. the things have already happened he's.

been demonized in a way that no public. figure has been demonized in any of our. lifetimes and survived made him more. popular yes he's stronger he's stronger. than he's ever been what do you think. about that thing I sent you today that. compares the number of people that voted. in 2020 versus the number of people that. voted in 2024 and in. 2016 sure does look strange and in 2012. have you seen it Jamie yeah I I it's. crazy I would say I can send it to you. if you want to see the exact chart cting.

votes that is a fair point there are. still votes out there I'd like to take a. look at that again after 100% of. everybody has been reported but it does. certainly seem weird let's not get. technical and let's just enjoy it I'm. I'm gonna send you this J because it's. so bizarre that I can't I can't really. believe it's real when did I send it to. you earlier today hang on a second I'll. find it it's so crazy you look at it and. you go there's is this real oh here it. is because it doesn't seem to make any.

sense cuz this is like one of the most. consequential uh elections ever I think. everybody's pretty aware of that and. everybody is very dug in on their side. the left he's Hitler the right he's. saving us and so more people voted at. least at least the indication would be. as much people voted in 2020 if not more. probably more people voted but let's. look at the numbers like look at the. difference in how many people voted for. Biden in.

2020 it's unprecedented it's way higher. than any other time since 2012 and I'm. I'm sure probably before that there was. less people back then right so if you go. back to when I was a kid there was only. like 200 million people in this country. yeah and and to be clear 2012 and 2016. were not low turnout years no no they're. all consistent this is what's crazy. they're consistent look they're all like. 60 look at look at where the number is. it's all like 65 Mill ion is that what. it says so that's all the same every.

[ __ ] time except 2020 and 2020 it. goes way the [ __ ] up look at it it's. like 80 what is it. 82 is that what it was like 81 and. change something 81 so it goes up a. [ __ ] sizable chunk and only once and. it does seem like even with getting all. the other votes in you're not going to. get to that but it's also like look how. many votes Trump got he got even more in. 2020 than he did in.

2024 like what the hell's that about is. that because they haven't counted all. the votes yet when they made this or is. that the reality of the numbers because. that doesn't make sense either yeah well. and and you know I just say you know how. in like the corporate media world it's. like this is the biggest crime ever to. even ask this question but you kind of. can't blame us for asking it when. everything you say is a lie the ballots. that came in the middle of the night are. weird and the fact that you had mailin.

ballots that's weird because the thing. about mailin ballots is different than. anything else it's not a chain of. custody all right there's a guy who. drops it off and then the postman gets. in who knows what the [ __ ] that guy does. they used to be going postal postmen. used to be scary because they shoot a. bunch yeah I don't know how they fixed. that but there that did stop yeah there. was a time there were they like [ __ ]. separating things by ZIP codes and like. enough and they were just killing. everybody in their office you remember. the uh old. Seinfeld uh bit on the show no he asked.

Newman's a postman and he's like why do. you guys always like go crazy and just. kill people he's like cuz the mail never. stops it's so funny it's just it keeps. coming yeah that was always my suspicion. it's just like a mundane job that's like. and you're working with these people you. don't like and then one day like I'm. going to [ __ ] kill everybody but. there's a bunch of those guys who it. became a term there was a video game. called Postal in the video game you just. ran around shooting people yeah a crazy. game yeah that was a better time it was.

but this was like the '90s that all this. was going on and something happened and. they stopped fixing so my point is who. knows what that post guy is doing like. you could just throw some stuff in the. garbage if you know you're in a. republican County throw some stuff in. garbage if somebody if you're if you're. a cab driver from some other country and. you're over in America and someone says. I'm going to give you a bag of ballot. I'm going to put him in your trunk and. you're going to go take them to this. place you're like okay you know like. you're going to give me $500 okay I'll.

drop off these ballots like when when. you're doing like lowlevel scams in like. small counties where you have corrupt. people that are working the voting. machines how many Republicans are paying. attention how many Democrats are paying. attention to the corrupt Republicans. there's always been election fraud to. pretend that we lie about the very fine. people he said they were very fine. people on both sides Obama's lying about. that in front of the whole world they. lie about everything you don't think. they would cheat well that's right.

exactly it's if every word that comes. out of your mouth is a lie right that. you can't tell me that I'm not allowed. to suspect and also you know if it's. like if what Rachel madow says is real. right like if you're telling me your. worldview is essentially that Adolf. Hitler is running for president um it. looks like it's a coin flip if he's. going to win that's what they were. telling us that it it was 50/50 turns. out it wasn't but Adolf Hitler's running. this is the end of democracy it's on the. ballot we'll never have elections again.

if this guy wins so if that's true then. why wouldn't somebody who's got a bunch. of ballots for him cheat I would do that. if Adolf Hitler was about to win I'd. cheat to make sure he would if Adolf. Hitler's about to win you should do. anything you can so you're going to tell. me on one hand Adolf Hitler's about to. take over America and on the other hand. but no one would ever cheat you would. break the rules to stop Hitler the. conversation that people the dumb. American pop conversation is would you. murder a baby if that baby was Adolf.

Hitler you know what I mean like that's. that's the pop question that people ask. about Adolf Hitler and and I think the. implied correct answer is yes you're. supposed to say I would murder Baby. Hitler wait he 17 yeah probably feel a. little bit better about yourself yeah by. the time he's 17 I'd know he's a piece. of [ __ ] and you could run a real good. experiment on like nurtur versus nature. like raise him loving be nice give some. mushrooms yeah go fix that little [ __ ]. but anyway so but you're saying someone. wouldn't it's also it's it's like it's. not even just that they're Liars who are.

in the business of propaganda it's that. it's incoherent propaganda your. propaganda doesn't even make sense like. if propaganda point a is true then. propaganda point B is impossible to be. true it's and and one of the things that. I'm so happy that Trump won um about you. know. is she just needed to lose like this. there there's a certain line of of that. they crossed that you're like we need to. be in a country where that doesn't work.

like that can't work it's just too far. here's one of the most important. precedents you can't have someone that's. running that didn't go through a primary. yeah you have to at least go through and. respect the process of allowing us to. pick who our representative is no one. would have picked her she didn't when. she was trying to run for president. Tulsa gabard nuked her out of orbit and. that was it for her she dropped off a. cliff and that was done and that's how. it should have been until Biden picked. her as his vice president get get away. from that. you should always have a primary like if. you really believe in the Democratic.

process and if you really believe in the. Democratic party you should want the. best representative of your party as. voted for by the population 100% And. that you can't that you can't have. someone bypass that because you have a. complete puppet 100% And then in. addition to that just think about how. crazy this is you're going to bypass the. Democratic process and then you're. running on Democracy is on the ballot I. this is just too much it's too much you. want to like punch yourself in the face.

like you can't do that to me you can't. say that well they've been so used to. doing it before they had full complete. control of the narrative because they. own the media and they they own the. media for so long they they had the the. run of the roost for so long that they. got cocky and they they didn't pay. attention to the game as it was evolving. they're like a UFC one fighter yeah that. you know takes time out of the gym steps. into 2024 and tries to compete against. guys of today like you missed the game.

the game is way past where you were and. you guys are St doing goofy [ __ ] like. taking people out of context and not. knowing that people going to make. YouTube clips showing what he actually. said versus you and it's going to. undermine your credibility even more I'm. I I used Obama was my favorite President. he's the best spokesman other than. Clinton of all time now I think he's a. liar I look at that that thing of him. say he said there's verified people on. both sides that's not what he said he. said I'm not talking about the KKK and.

white supremacist they should be. condemned it was so clear he made it. totally clear and what he was saying was. that there were very fine people on both. sides of the arguments about tearing. statues down like he was saying look. there it's reasonable that there are. some people who are like no this is our. history we want to keep it up and then. there's other people who are like this. represents slavery or something like. that you want to take it down and then. and then first of it was clear when he. said it that that's what he meant and. then ask him a follow-up question are. you saying the the white supremacists. are very fine peace because no how many.

times do I need to say that no I am not. saying that any of the whes are and like. that's not enough and then there was a. sneaky thing that they used to do they. would ask him will you disavow white. supremacy will you disavow white. supremacy like what are you talk first. of all that's like saying to to someone. like will. you anything any crime that you would. never do like you disavow murder like of. course I'll disavow murder oh well all a. sudden you're implicated at something. you have to disavow murder like you're.

connected somehow another to murder Now. Dave Smith under any circumstances do. you disavow murder you're like I'm not. murdering anybody what the [ __ ] are you. saying and after he had done it like. maybe a hundred times no exaggeration. they'd go now you still haven't. disavowed white supremacy and he'd be. like no I have over and over again but. to your point which I think is a really. good one and I think I love the analogy. for people who are MMA fans it really is. like uh it's like someone coming into. MMA in 2024 and being like uh I'm a.

Jiu-Jitsu specialist I've never trained. wrestling or striking exactly and you're. like okay that's not going to work. anymore like I know that worked in 1993. but like that's not going to work it's. they have not adapted to the new world. that we're living in now and you saw. there was a lot of evidence of of this. with like these things that used to work. now come with a heavy price so one of. the things that politicians used to do. in general was that they would give uh. they would give the same stump speech.

everywhere they go message discipline is. what it's called then they you always. stay on message and this is the idea is. that you're never going to get your. message out there unless you say the. same thing over and over again to. everyone but. now we have the internet and you have. these compilations of Camala Harris. saying she's in a from a middle class. family like 75 times in a row and you. just look like a psychopath you're like. oh what are you so now there's like a. cost to playing the game in the old way.

but they don't adjust and and and Trump. whether even intentionally or not was. always just kind of like oh well I just. speak off the cuff so I I don't do that. you know like I mean he's got themes. that he hits a lot like all of us kind. of do but he he doesn't do that and he. did and Donald Trump one of the. brilliant things and man I mean I can't. believe I haven't just asked you this. already uh about this but one of the. really brilliant things that Donald. Trump did which obviously look RFK did. it uh and V ramaswami I think both like. they recogniz like look we're in a new.

landscape here and there are these shows. on the internet that have much bigger. audiences than these traditional shows. oh and by the way I get to go long and I. can really do give an in-depth you know. like uh uh point on on every single. topic and dude I mean Trump coming on. here and her refusing to it this. is I mean dude you kind of put Donald. Trump in the White House this is amazing. settle down people are listening. everyone's thinking it well for sure him.

getting to be himself and just have a. conversation with someone who's not. being hostile yeah you know and I did. ask him questions that I wanted answers. to like this proof that he lost in 2020. he did not provide me with that and I've. said and I we talked about it in depth. yesterday that if I was accused of. election denying which election denial. it's. like there's Holocaust and is number one. and then there's maybe vaccine.

denier and and election denier election. Den is probably a little higher than. vaccine denier you could be a c and a. vaccine denier but still believe that. Donald Trump lost the election but. election denier you're cast out of the. Kingdom there's a couple other ones that. go underneath that but those are the big. ones those are the big ones and you get. put into a box like instantaneously if I. was put in that box I would have. responses to every question I would say. well in Georgia there was bah blah blah. blah blah ballots that were bah blah. blah this was this should have been. these these people were dead these. people they should have never been.

voting in the first place they were not. uh United States citizens I would have. all the information ready to fire and he. didn't he was like there's books I tell. you that I have the suspicion that he's. his he's way busier than me and I can. barely pay attention to things yeah. sometimes I agree to do things my wife. tells me we're going to do something. what are we talking about she goes you. said yes to it yeser I did when you were. making coffee I wasn't paying attention. what the [ __ ] you're talking about where. are we going you know but that's just. normal life stuff right this guy is.

literally running for [ __ ] president. he's got what all these golf courses. everywhere and businesses everywhere and. Mara Lago and [ __ ] family there's. millions of things so probably they told. him the election was stolen he told me. find the results find it let's get it. overturned these [ __ ] criminals I. don't know how much he really looked. into it I don't know I know I don't know. how much he studied it cuz I have an. answer for you I would want you to. regurgitate it fact by fact and I think. VI could do that if you ask v a question.

about that if you ask JD Vance question. about that I bet if they were accused. they would be able to Rattle off all. those numbers and statistics uh I I. think that V probably wouldn't make the. claim exactly in the same way that. Donald Trump he was accused yeah oh yeah. yeah yeah sure um well yeah no V isn't. going to say anything without having. like a detailed answer to it that's not. Trump that's not is JD yes listen Trump. is different than Vin and JD he's a. different type of animal there so much.

evidence well the thing is one of the. things that was really interesting and. that was one of the most interesting uh. moments of your your show with him was. that you weren't asking it the way CNN. would ask it you weren't badgering him. and like kind like you were after having. a very honest good faith conversation. for a while you were asking in good. faith like what's the EV and yeah he. look I think the truth is that his. lawyers made a lot of landish claims. none of which they could prove in court. um essentially what he has in terms of.

the argument I think is kind of what we. have what we just looked at we're like. sure does look strange sure does seem. weird to me that 80 million plus people. voted for for Joe Biden and the regime. was so working against him in every. other way like you know Glenn Greenwald. who's you know I think just one of the. absolute like most brilliant people out. there I his work is incredible love I. love way he put it I thought it was. perfect uh where he goes he's like like. I don't really have any evidence that.

they stole the election from him but. they clearly rigged the thing against. him and then just kind of goes through. like all the censorship the hunter Biden. story The the media and so in that. environment it's very easy you know the. the analogy that I use I think I may. have said this before to you but it's. almost like if uh if there's a guy who's. like cheating on his wife all the time. and then one day she's like uh I last. Friday you didn't answer your phone when. you were out I know you were cheating on. me and she's wrong he wasn't cheating.

that Friday right like she's kind of. right even though she's wrong you know. what I mean like she she might get the. detail wrong but her overall suspicion. is in fact correct I think there was a. lot of that with Trump supporters which. just like listen man you framed him for. treason for three years of his. presidency then you you shut down the. economy and that was totally partially. at least to ruin his economy for his. reelection year then you were totally. supporting the riots that were. destroying you know like you were just. causing chaos then you overhauled the.

way we do votes and you killed his big. October surprise Story by censoring it. off all the social media sites you and. now you're telling me the most. unimpressive senator in the history of. America Joe Biden got 80 plus million. votes he got more votes than Obama in. 2008 really like this just smell but. that is not something you can take to. court right that's not something you can. say definitively as a fact and Fame. people and slander people right and. that's why Giuliani is [ __ ] right.

Giuliani got hit with a huge lawsuit how. much was it like 15 remember it was a. lot but uh it but yeah but also Rudy. Giuliani is a lawyer and he should know. that like you kind of can't say that. unless you got something to really. present uh and the way you should say it. is by pre presenting the evidence you. should even make claims you should. probably just present the evidence well. they were saying I mean uh Sydney po I. think that's her name right and and. Giuliani $148 million damages verdict.

adds to Rudy. giuliani's over his legalize about two. Georgia election workers so what did he. say that these ladies did so this is a. defamation suit it must be what did he. say that they did defamation case. brought by two former Georgia election. workers marks a new low point for the. man once allowed as America's mayor. whose advocacy of Donald Trump's false. election claims led to criminal charges. and Hefty legal bills what did they what. did he say. that they. did he what did he.

say what did he. say let's find out what his uh. statements were see if you can find it. remember when Ron Paul destroyed Rudy. Giuliani on the debate stage here it. says Giuliani this is different I think. um accuses him participating in wide. range conspiracy to thwart the will of. georg's Voters who had selected Democrat. Joe Biden over Republican incumbent he. faces 13 charges including violation of. georg's anti-racketeering law the. federal version of which was one of his.

favorite tools as a prosecutor in the. 1980s that's crazy because he he's the. one who took out like the mob. yep Jesus Christ so but let's find out. what he said if we can I'm interested. isn't it annoying that they make it so. hard to find like the actual. thing yeah lies he spread about them. that that upended their lives with. racist threats what were the lies what. did he say when it says upended their. lives click on that link see what it.

says George election worker suing Rudy. Jal tells jurors that his lies made her. fear for her life so what the [ __ ] did. he. say repeated false claims about her and. her mother saying that they were engaged. in changing votes I personally cannot. repair my reputation at the moment. because your client is still lying on me. and ruining my reputation further she. told giuliani's lawyer she sobbed she.

testified that her life was turned. upside down by the accusations though. they were quickly debunked by state. officials her attorneys displayed a few. of the graphic messages accusing her of. treason and more that she received after. Giuliani in December of 2020 falsely. accused workers at the State Farm Arena. in Atlanta of tampering with ballots. yeah you got to have real evidence if. you want to say something like that and. again Ry Julie honey is a a lawyer like. he should know that you know um. California's only reported 54% right now.

so that's somewhere in the range of 9. million plus. votes but that's the biggest missing oh. so far still how do they not count it. all only 54% I don't know this is. updated too how are they why are they so. slow they suck at everything over there. now 85 for Nevada 73 or something for. Washington and Oregon Oregon's at 62% so. they still have a lot to go up there I. don't know that's all right so we'll see. what these numbers look like but at the. end of the day so there there might. still be more Millions so it might get.

close to the 80 million Mark that' be. interesting to see because that that. then that's a misleading chart I didn't. know that there were so many that hadn't. turned in their votes yet that doesn't. surprise me about California get your. [ __ ] together you [ __ ] dorks yeah. they can't do anything they're charging. 14% in state taxes than another 1% if. you live in Los Angeles the city of Los. Angeles you get hit with another 1% dude. that's like agent and manager fees you. know yeah you imagine like you make a.

good amount of money like say let's say. you make a $100,000 a year you have to. pay. $40,000 to the government for what for. what and then if you move in Tennessee. zero move to Texas zero and they wonder. why people are flooding out of their. state by the hundreds of thousands you. can't even count the votes in time you. [ __ ] Knuckleheads like what are you. doing yeah no they can't do anything. it's such a goofy State just. overburdened with regulations you can't. even have flavored Vapes.

anymore little Billy's hooked on the. strawberry Mist you got to take it out. of the store to protect my little Billy. it's the strawberry that gets them you. can't have flavored zins well and isn't. it so like uh the whole uh like war on. Tobacco um which I guess Vapes aren't. tobacco but uh the whole like you know. like crack down on smoking and. everything that kind of happened in my. lifetime is it's really really wild when.

you take into account all the stuff that. Bobby Kennedy talks about oh yeah where. you're like yeah but we're like the most. unhealthy country and you took away like. yeah a lot more people used to smoke. cigarettes and cigarettes aren't good. for you sure but we were a healthier. country when people were smoking. cigarettes we need regulation My Little. Billy and his strawberry baby do you. ever use Zin uh occasionally now these. are Lucy these are espresso flavored. this is contraband in California are.

these are eight wait are these the. Tucker Carlson ones no no no this is. another company Lucy's these are. Breakers they have a little thing in. there you break it it gives you flavor. it tastes like coffee go ahead break it. bite down chew on. it oh yeah baby illegal in California. right here we're in Texas this doesn't. seem this doesn't seem like it should be. illegal in freedom freedom in Texas no. if you want flavor you have to have that. and stick of gum if you live in. California you can get your cinnamon gum.

and you can chew your cinnamon gum with. your [ __ ] no flavor Zin and you could. have a nice little experience almost. like you have a cinnamon Zen but you're. not allowed to have a cinnamon Zen. because you're too much of a [ __ ]. baby you can't control yourself well. it's either you [ __ ] dude I mean you. know I'm on the road all the time yeah. right as I and you go throughout this. whole country and it's like yeah people. don't smoke anymore that was effective I. mean they not like the way they used to. you know there's not people smoking. cigarettes like that but every single. town I go to in this entire country has.

an Arby's and a Burger King and a KFC. and like they have every single Town. even when they have nothing else they. have every single type of fast food and. you w you look around and like. everybody's obese everyone's unhealthy I. mean when you rattle off you know when. when Bobby Kennedy gave that speech when. he threw his support behind Donald Trump. you I was watching that with uh my wife. and my mother-in-law they both like have. tears in their eyes. as he's just reading down the stats of. how unhealthy we are as a country it's.

just you know um man one thing and I'm. really really glad that uh that Bobby. ran for president this year and I'm. really glad he ended up throwing a. support behind Trump and hopefully he. gets a really important position in. there but the one thing that I almost. felt like you couldn't argue with him. that even if you don't blame the same. culprits that he blames which is what. they love to to say. it's like how is everyone not talking. about this how is this not an issue that.

every single presidential candidate has. to address it's killing people yeah kids. it's killing kids and it's making people. way more vulnerable to a host of other. diseases including cancers it's terrible. for you. cardiovascular like the. 77% I think Bobby said 73% of all uh. American boys are not eligible for the. military so they are unfit to serve. because they're either obese or they.

have a host of these metabolic. conditions that have come about from. poor diet yeah and from poison from. eating poison essentially you're eating. you're slow dosing your body with poison. and sugar all day long and that's most. people and we don't do anything about. that but then we try to regulate Vapes. yeah have you do you know do you know. Nicole Shanahan uh yes I haven't met her. in person but uh I actually did a. FaceTime with her and I think Willie D. from the ghetto boys really that's an. odd pairing together I think she's great.

uh I had her on my podcast a couple. times and it's just 77% of Young. Americans between the a age of 17 and 24. are not considered fit for military. service unbelievable dude only 11's. physical health 11 Health well mental. health that's to substance abuse. education social and behavior factors. criminal. records um US military is facing a. recruitment crisis due to these.

challenges as well as a lack of Interest. among young people so it's uh only 11%. is like physically so unhealthy that. they can't do it that's obesity actually. so there's probably a bunch of other. conditions other than obesity right um. mental health. issues um I wonder it says significant. factors I wonder what number that is I. bet drug and alcohol abuse is a big one. yeah that's a big one uh is 8% for drug. and alcohol abuse so I wonder how much. the mental health is I bet that's a big.

one doesn't say does. it let's find out because that seems. like there's a lot of people out there. with mental health. conditions medical physical. health drug and alcohol abuse 8% medical. physical health. 7% what does it say about mental though. mental health and overweight conditions. H oh there 4% mental health. 7% medical physical only 8% drug abuse.

11% overweight wow dude she um uh look. at this 44% though more than one reason. or condition 44 almost half more than. one of these problems that that makes. you. ineligible that's crazy I was uh I can't. remember what town I was in but uh so. Nicole Shanahan who I I think she's. great um and uh was really really. interesting I had her on my podcast. twice just really really smart lady.

who's really knows a lot about this. stuff so she sent me this like video. that she posted um and so I'm in a hotel. room and uh I was there with uh my my. buddy Rob Bernstein who's a co-host of. my podcast part of the problem very very. funny comedian very smart guy um and so. we're i' literally I I was texting with. him and we were like on our way to go to. the show so I was like hey meet in the. lobby in 10 minutes uh and then I got an. Uber taking us to the comedy club I. can't remember where we were and Nicole.

Janan sends me this video uh it was like. a video that she put out on Twitter uh I. didn't know what it was going to be you. know she just sent me it and I just. click on it and play it and it was just. about like what her family went through. with their kids you know like like. illnesses and stuff and it's like this. and it's the most touching video ever. and I'm L sit down it's so powerful that. I sit down and I'm just watching this. whole thing and I started crying. watching it is I I got kids with health. issues really Cuts close to the Bone for.

me um but as I'm sitting there just like. like literally sobbing watching this. video so emotional and then literally it. just Dawns on me in the middle of it. that I'm supposed to meet my comedian. friend in one minute in the lobby to go. to the show and I just sitting here like. what am I doing I'm sitting in my hotel. room crying about these kids but anyway. the point of of it is is that like hey. look I don't know enough about this. stuff you know I know about stuff that I. know about I don't I don't know enough. about this I really should educate. myself more on it but if your argument. is that like um that Bobby and Nicole.

are blaming the wrong culprits you know. it's not the vaccines and it's not the. the WiFi and it's not the like okay I. don't know but like what is it then and. why are you not interested in this why. are they the only ones who are talking. about this you're telling me we lead the. world in chronic illness and that's not. something that comes up in any. presidential election ever other than. when Bobby Kennedy runs for president. that's insane you don't think the. increase in the number of autism cases.

is a an area we should discover we. should look into we should investigate. you think that that's all been figured. out like why you so convinced and. explain I'm sorry I'm I'm I'm letting. you know that I'm I'm somewhat ignorant. on this subject so just like explain it. to me like I'm really really stupid talk. slowly okay I can understand where if. you're talking about um very mild autism. okay like what we used to call Asbergers. uh which I guess they don't call it that.

anymore but if you're talking about mild. autism and you want to convince me that. that went undiagnosed in the past I can. totally believe that there is no way. that moderate or severe autism went UND. it may have not been correctly diagnosed. but you did not not notice that like I'm. sorry enough of a rise in numbers that. it should be a conern there no way I'm. saying there's no possible way that. there isn't an increase going on here. because obviously even even in the 1940s. or in the 1950s if someone was nonverbal.

they would have noticed that yeah they. would have noticed that this you know. what I mean like if there was a lot of. kids like that in your school you'd. notice there's no way you would have. called it something maybe you wouldn't. have like understood it the way we. understand it today and and thank God. people do understand it better and. there's a lot more um there's a lot more. tools that are provided uh and there's a. lot more awareness about it and and and. special schools and things like that but. come on like there's you know so much of. this is um it's one of one of the things.

that exposes the how how full of [ __ ]. our whole system is is when you just see. that there's no even desire to get to. the bottom of this it's like the Trump. assassination attempts but not only that. Noire there's no desire to get to the. bottom of it and it's about children. yeah which are the most vulnerable. people that we all should be protecting. but they're so entrenched in this. ideology that you have to trust science. and if you're a vaccine denier you're a. bad person like no one's a vaccine. denier what we're saying is there may be.

a correlation and there may be something. that if investigated it shows has been. covered up and there may be a situation. where the vaccine companies have. complete immunity to prosecution they. can never be held liable which was the. only way that they could still. manufacture these things because they. said that they cannot be. safe and effective it cannot be safe for. everybody there's going to be side. effects that's exactly right dud and.

they can't be liable for those side. effects because then they would go under. this is like this is what set this whole. chain in motion where when I was a kid. you got three vaccines now you have 72. right it's wild and it's it it reminds. me kind of of uh you remember like when. they were trying to push the covid. passports the vaccine passports and the. logic would just fall apart on its face. like you're like wait a minute you're. like you you're telling me the vaccine. is 100% effective you're saying if you. take the vaccine you can't get Co or. spread Co and then you're also telling. me that the people who are vaccinated in. this restaurant need to be protected.

from the unvaccinated entering this. restaurant that doesn't make sense no. I'm sorry I'm not a genius but I can. figure out the logic in that does not is. flawed okay also and in the same in the. same sense though it's like so what is. if you're arguing that all these. vaccines are safe and Bobby Kennedy's a. c then why do they need the liability. protection yes absolutely there was also. another thing that they did didn't make. any sense. cuz it went against the science and they. was saying that if you don't get. vaccinated it's going to cause variant.

and that's not what they say what with. people who study viruses and vaccine say. is you do not vaccinate during a. pandemic with a. non-sterilizing vaccine so meaning if a. vaccine if you give it to someone and. they could still transmit and they could. still catch the disease you're going to. cause these variants and there is a. scientific paper that posted like de. early into the pandemic that said this. and people got so upset at me I'm like.

tell me what this says what this said. there's VI virologists that would go on. these podcasts that you know they'd have. to be the people that willing to step. outside the line and say these things. they're saying this is not what you ever. do during a pandemic because you're. going to create variants and that's. exactly what happened and people start. doctors started blaming the variant on. the unvaccinated but if you question. those doctors explain to me how that. works there's no [ __ ] answer it's. just a narrative that they were have to. vaccine good anything else bad ior.

mechon you're crazy killing people death. blood on your hands it was all a scop. and it was super effective and it was a. way for them to make ungodly amounts of. money and that's what it was and the. quicker we accept that and realize that. we're vulnerable to that kind of [ __ ] if. we still keep following along the same. kind of lines that we're on today if as. soon as we realize that the better off. we all are all of us. yeah and I think I think I got here in a. kind of similar way to you which is I. think a story for like millions of.

Americans is that I never even thought. about this issue I never dove into. reading a lot about any vaccine until. there was this covid vaccine and then I. really dove into it and read a lot about. it and found out that you guys were. lying through your [ __ ] teeth about. the whole godamn thing and that the. whole clinical trials were totally. rigged and totally fake and that you. were able to get everybody in the like. um the the scientific institutions of.

our government to all repeat these lies. and then everybody in the corporate. media and the political class to repeat. these lies and then when Bobby Kennedy. came along and said well you know how. that was all [ __ ] there's a lot of. [ __ ] with these other vaccines I was. like I'm listening that doesn't seem. unreasonable to me it doesn't seem. unreasonable at all and the fact that. they were trying to silence legitimate. scientists doctors professors at Major. unties foring Outside the Lines they. were trying to remove them from Twitter. they were trying to silence them they. worked injunction with the original.

Twitter to do that they silenced real. experts you know and when that lady from. Twitter had to testify in front of. Congress it was amazing that was amazing. and watch those people Grill her like. are you a doctor like why are you. silencing doctors like what are you do. that was the same uh the one you had on. right with Timol and one of the. interesting things about that was which. is that was a great still probably one. of my all-time favorite JRE episodes uh.

but it was when you know when she was. they were uh arguing that like they. don't have a bias and then I think Tim. was like yeah but you ban people for. like uh dead naming or misgendering and. she was like well yeah I mean that's. that's hateful and you're like yeah but. that's a bias like that right there is a. bias and it's one thing when you're just. talking about like whether we're calling. somebody a boy or a girl but then you. realize like oh you have the exact same. thing when it actually comes to like. very important medical information about. a product that Americans are being.

forced to take right this is madness no. matter what you say they're being forced. they're being forced if they want to fly. they're forced if they want to work in a. place that has more than a 100 people if. the workplace mandates it forced if they. want to go to a university forced forced. forced and and they were they were. implementing in a totally. unconstitutional way uh they were going. to through OSHA through work workplace. safety like just the the most blatantly. unconstitutional uh proposal that Joe.

Biden was going to make it the law of. the land that every single business with. a hundred people or more had to have. everybody vaccinated and it was only. because of Donald Trump Supreme Court. that that got struck down and that's. something that people who are paying. attention remember and so like okay you. can demonize Donald Trump all you want. to but how many millions of Americans. were not five tied from their job did. not lose their livelihood because they. refused or were not vaccine injured for. a vaccine that they never needed to take.

I mean how many people fell into the. category that like me and you and so. many other people fell into where we got. the thing and beat it real quickly. before we ever got vaccinated then just. didn't need it and then it just didn't. make any sense even even with the. information we had about the vaccine. back then which we have a lot more now. but even back then I mean you were you. looked CNN's doctor right in the eyes. and he goes well are you going to get. the vaccine you go no I just beat Co why. would I need to and he had no answer for.

you he had no reason why there's no. compelling reason why they wanted me to. join the team that's it that's all it is. they all I mean I had a very intelligent. friend that I had a conversation with. you going to get vaccinated now I go why. would I do that it was a weird. conversation I go I beat it in three. days I go it wasn't even that sick man. like I made a video three days later. explaining and I got in trouble cuz I. took the wrong medication to get better. are you guys out of your [ __ ] mind. like if you re if you were really. worried about people's health and safety. when you say hey what's this. 57-year-old guy doing getting over this.

so easy right what's he doing different. what's he doing different and you go oh. he's very serious about his health oh he. takes really good care of himself by the. way I had you enjoy me giving the. business to Chris Cuomo. over that was one of my favorite favor. moments of this year he was trying to do. CNN outside of CNN mhm you know like. when he said I've never said that and. then they pull up the clip like. immediately uh him demonizing shout out. to uh Patrick B David's uh crew cuz they. really had my back on that one yes you.

know it's not like I didn't send them. that clip before or anything but they. they in real time in real time had that. ready to go they had too yeah yeah they. had everybody's got a Jamie now not. Jamie not J there's only one Jamie. there's only one there's only one Jamie. but there's a lot of of uh knockoffs. yeah L knock offs but the fact that you. checked him in real time and he just had. to sit there and eat it it's just they. were puppets they were puppets for the. system they were doing it because that. was their job that's how you get ahead. in your career you want to be the main.

guy at CNN that's what you do and that's. what they were doing and now he's not. doing it anymore good luck to him I hope. he does stay on an independent path and. and becomes an objective person and he's. he's made some strives towards that I. think I think he's taken some [ __ ]. lumps and I think you beat the [ __ ] out. of him in that debate that debate was uh. Mike Tyson's early fights [ __ ] you see. that [ __ ] white dude with the muffin. top who just gets flatlined in 15. seconds that's what that was I mean look. man and it's not really like a comment. on me it's not that I'm so amazing it.

debates it's just like the argument here. is. so good at it fck good at it I'm not bad. at it also but I'm just right about. facts were on your side yeah I mean. that's that that's my my superpower. isn't that I'm like the smartest guy or. the best at debates it's just that like. I'm I'm right in what I'm arguing and. that makes it much easier um you know I. got uh there was a um an organization. that. was pitching me on a debate a two on two. debate which I don't really like doing. two on two debates um I've done like to.

many people talking it's too much yeah. yeah one-onone is the way to do it um. but they they pitched me this like. months after that I think it was if I'm. not wrong I think the topic was about. whether Joe Biden should drop out of the. race or not and they pitched me that it. would be a two on two debate uh against. two people I don't remember who who were. saying he should stay in and it was. going to be me and Chris Cuomo against. them and I told them I was like no no I. will not be on his side and like I don't. you know I I'm kind of over for you know. I I yeah we had our thing I gave him a.

beating I think he deserved it but I'm. just like listen man I'll team up with. like a left Winger on something I agree. with I'll team up with a right- Winger. on something I agree with I'll I'll team. up with like a moderate on something I. agree with but no not the corporate. media guy who was the number one show at. CNN like I'm not on their side even if. I'm on their side on this issue I'm. against them and I I know that this has. probably been a theme of like every. single time I'm on this show over the. last uh 10 years or whatever it's been. um but I just and maybe it's a problem I.

hate them so much and I really think. they deserve it and it's not just that. they lie about everything it's like they. lie about everything and then they have. the nerve to to morally judge us like if. you just watch even just the last few. weeks of the the Trump election is. they're not in the business of reporting. the news they're totally just in the. business of making you feel like you're. a bad person if you don't fall in line. with the regime and you know like it's. like all of us know right everybody. knows this America has this giant war.

machine right like we're just always at. War we're the most War hungry country in. the world even if we're taking a little. bit of a break from a war we'll fight. two more proxy wars while we do that. America looks back at the 90s Bill. Clinton as the time of peace and. prosperity we call it peace because we. only fought a war in like Serbia and had. a blockade around Iraq and were like. bombing the crap out of Iraq with a few. other military interventions in there.

too you know the UN estimated when that. Bill Clinton's sanction and bombing. regime of Iraq okay everyone just thinks. of George HW Bush's war and W's War but. Bill Clinton was bombing Iraq his whole. and he had a full blockade around the. country the UN estimated that. 500,000 children died of starvation or. malnutrition due to the blockade now i'. I've heard people argue by the way that. that number is exaggerated maybe it. wasn't 500,000 maybe it was only 100,000. so so that's the time that we consider.

peace when we were just starving a. 100,000 children to death in Iraq and. you everybody in the corporate media are. in the business every single one of. those Wars you've sold them everyone my. entire life the media has sold those. Wars and you're going to morally look. down on me you're going to judge me. [ __ ] you're in the business of B. murder get the [ __ ] out of here you're. looking down judging an American cuz I. maybe I'm going to vote for Donald Trump.

or maybe I dare to question the results. of the last election [ __ ] you dude and. Fu and man and it was a challenge. debating him because they were playing. the clips you know even before they. played that clip that sunned him because. he had said he didn't say that and then. he clearly did but they were just. playing the clips of the way they were. talking to people uh during covid and. the pandemic of the unvaccinated and. it's you Mr vaccine skeptic you're the. reason why this p and man it was getting. me angry like I was just like all right. I got to I got to control this here cuz.

this is two like how sweet is it that. he's on ior mekon now I mean it's how. sweet is that though that is the. nuttiest part of it all could you just. set someone up for he wants to say long. Co like hey buddy let me tell you. something if you got a novel medication. injected into your body more than once. you probably had to do it twice you. probably at least had to get get one. booster and you have some problem and. you're saying this long-term problem is. co long Co are you.

sure are you sure or maybe that medicine. that they injected into your body you. got vaccine injured yeah you don't want. to say that though because you still. want some sort of a job in corporate. media so you have to tow the line you. should be very concerned that this. novel before never met ass injected into. people who knows how many different. people are going to have different. results from some medication some.

terrible [ __ ] weird way their biology. interacts with this medication it's. going to cause a horrible side effect. and now you're on ior meon to treat that. that's rich and and the the way he tried. to spin it that he wasn't but but he. tried to say cuz I mean he was so he. really should have just thrown in the. white towel he he would have done much. better for himself in that debate if you. listen I was at CNN and I kind of just. took for granted that they have the best.

experts and so I trusted their experts. and now I realize they were if he had. said that that would have been very hard. I I still would have been harsh on him. but it would have been a different. conversation and a different Dynamic. what he did was he refused to admit that. and then and this is really what got me. is that then he started kind of like. attacking my motives like he was like oh. yeah now he goes I know that you know. this is probably good for your podcast. numbers and stuff but BL like as if I. don't really believe what I'm saying I'm. just doing this to make money how they. function that's why they're accusing you. of functioning that way they're accusing.

you of doing things just because you. know they're going to be outrageous and. get a lot of views which is but you know. like you know mey I don't do that I. don't do that I don't do that number one. podcast in the world and I don't do. anything based on how many views I think. it's going to get that's a fact yeah and. you never you don't like there is. nothing I say that I don't believe I. might be wrong about some stuff but I. everything I say I believe I'm not like. ever saying anything cuz just oh this. will you know like bring in bigger. numbers or something like that they. think that way that's why he's accusing.

you of that cuz like that's that's a. motivation for people that are in that. industry if you're in the [ __ ]. industry of being a mouthpiece for. Network news like there's a very narrow. window of behavior that you have to. operate under you have to like you have. to stay inside these lines and the. whatever if you're on Fox or if you're. on CBC CNBC or whatever it is MSNBC. anyone you have a a narrative they have. a narrative in the office there's a. culture there a way people think about. that and this is your job so you're.

going to do the things that you think. are going to get you more ratings you're. going to do the stories that going get. people more outraged that's how you're. thinking it's the wrong way to think. when you're on the internet and they. also have um they there's a real. incentive to never consider like what I. said about them being in the baby murder. business because that's you know that's. pretty rough to think of yourself as. that and you know I remember um this one. time I watched a um a documentary on. abortion and it was like a very.

pro-choice how much free time do you. have this was your this was before I had. kids this was before I had kids I had so. much free time before I had kids if I'm. going to unwind in front of the TV. that's the last thing I'm going to watch. I'm a weird guy Joo but that's what I. was that's what I do I might though but. well it was I forget where where it was. might have been on Netflix know what was. going on well I was I was kind of. interested in the the subject and you. know was before I had kids but I I. remember I was watching it had a very. pro-choice bent and there was this. abortionist this abortion doctor this. lady and she was like a she was like.

listen I've been an an abortion doctor. for 30 years and let me just tell you. something there is no moral issue with. having an abortion it's a thing in a. Petri dish It's Not a Human Being it's. but and I remember just watching it. being like well yeah but like you better. feel that way right cuz if you even. start to entertain the possibility that. the what does that make you so this very. powerful social incentive for them to. like dig their heels in and not admit.

that like oh the United States of. America the greatest country in the. history of the world with more freedom. and prosperity and the cultivated the. greatest economy and the greatest you. know music and literature and just. everything that is this superpower oh we. presided over the bankruptcy destruction. and like the devolving into to nothing. more than a like military industrial. complex big Bank big pharmaceutical most.

corrupt Nation on Earth and we didn't. cover that we watched all of that happen. and not only did we not cover it we. demonized anybody who covered it and we. we were at every you know like that's. very difficult to ever confront and it's. always just so much easier for human. beings to just go nope the problem is. misinformation and Russia and racism. they were saying that the number one um. thing for women was abortion that was.

that that was the The Narrative that was. being expressed over and over again it. was the number one issue for them the. number one concern well was the only. political winner they had did you see. what Kurt man tweeted no no but I want. to hold on give me a second he's the man. Kurt is the [ __ ] best when things are. flying and everything gets crazy I'm G. send this to you Jamie. oh my God he's so funny he is one of the. funniest human beings on the planet for. sure he he's a mess in the Green Room.

he's just like just like he got me down. Rabbit Hole after Rabb you didn't hear. about this and he's like more. conspiracist I'm like Kurt I'm trying to. like enjoy this experience of being at. the comedy club and Donald Trump's about. to you're hitting me with conspiracy. after conspiracy after conspiracy I'm. like you get caught on the side of the. bar at mits with Kurt Meer you might be. in for a you might be in for a night and. he's looming and he's big big giant guy. Christina appgate WR why give me your. reasons why my child is sobbing because. her rights as a woman may be taken away.

why and if you disagree please unfollow. me CT says good news if she got all her. Co shots she's probably sterile now. anyway also what the [ __ ] is a. [Laughter]. woman also could you imagine a child. imagine a child and your child is. sobbing because their right to kill a. baby inside of them might taken away I. don't believe that's true it's very hard. I don't believe that's true unless. you've distorted what we're talking.

about to that child and said that. someone's going to tell that child what. they can and can't do with their body. like in some sort of a weird dystopian. way like what did you say to that kid do. you explain what an abortion is do you. explain how they came about they were in. your body and then they came out now. they're a little tiny person that's like. super vulnerable and you want to protect. their right to kill a little tiny person. inside of them I'm not saying you. shouldn't be able to do it and I'm I am. not I'm not a woman I should not have. the choice of what a woman can can't do. with her body I would not want a man if.

I was a woman to tell me what the [ __ ] I. can do with my body and I think if. somehow and I think it's all connected. to religion and if somehow or another. someone decided and this would be a very. minor comparison and not nearly as. consequential but if someone decided. that men could no longer get homies or. excuse me vasectomies if men can no. longer get vasectomies because of. religious reasons because of some Sharia. law or whatever the [ __ ] it is you you. you cannot do that men would be outraged. if women were forcing it on men we have. low population you cannot get vcom he's.

like what we be like what the [ __ ] is. going on and you've I want to go to. Oklahoma to get a vasectomy because it's. legal there and then they they track you. when you're in Oklahoma to get a vect. like what what the [ __ ] men would be. outraged that's happening with abortion. there's talk of doing that with abortion. where in states where it's illegal women. are not going to be allowed to travel in. the United States of America where. you're supposed to have freedom to go to. a place where you're gonna have a legal. medical procedure it's legal in that. place whether you agree with it or not.

if you're going to believe in State's. rights and you don't think that this is. a giant prison where you have to show. your ID when you go into Arizona you. should be able to drive around right. that's the whole idea of one country you. can go where the [ __ ] you want to go. it's not your business there's other. things to worry about worry about these. [ __ ] gangs that are taking over. apartment buildings worry about the. Border worry about South Central Los. Angeles worry about the south side of. Chicago and [ __ ] violence that kills. more people than half the wars we have. going on right now worry about important. [ __ ] don't worry about what a guy wants.

to do to get a vasectomy or way worse a. woman wants to do if she's trying to get. an abortion it's not your [ __ ]. business I think that if the argument is. that abortion is killing a baby which. like there is an argument to then I can. understand the argument being hey that. shouldn't be allowed now obviously I do. think there are situations where it's. pretty indefensible to force uh a woman. to carry a baby to term um you know but.

could risk her life there's a lot of. rape incest also Health major health. issues I mean there are these situations. where you find out that there is some. you know congenital disease where this. this kid is not going to make it to. three years old and I would never dream. of like forcing you know what I mean. that decision on parents rather than. allowing them to make it there is also. a different the vast majority of. abortions are not that you know and the. vast majority of abortions are.

essentially people just don't want to. have kids right now and that's a little. bit that's much tougher uh to defend. than those cases but I will say that one. of the things that always like I find. striking to me is that because I'm like. a radical libertarian and it's very. interesting to me that like Progressive. Democrats all of sudden become radical. Libertarians but only on one issue and. they make literally exactly I'm not even. saying the libertarian position is to be.

pro choice there's Libertarians who are. pro-life and Libertarians who are. pro-choice but the argument they make is. a Libertarian one they're like listen I. own my body it's my body it's my choice. the government shouldn't be involved in. healthcare decisions we believe in. Freedom this is a basic fundamental. right it's a very libertarian argument. and it's just interesting that you only. apply that to this one area there's not. any other area where that that any. Progressive Democrat would ever go you. know if we're talking about Obamacare.

we're talking about regulation we're. talking about taxes they would never go. Hey listen this is my money this is my. body this is my choice the government. shouldn't be involved in that you know. what I'm saying and like there is. something that's very bizarre about that. uh where it's kind of like maybe with. immigration they kind of try to use that. an argument to like oh you shouldn't. stop a person freedom of movement type. thing they don't really do that anymore. because it's been such a disaster um but. it's just very strange to me that it's. like oh what you all become radical. Libertarians like only when it comes to. this thing which is kind of murdering a. baby but then there's the other side.

that says we're going to leave it up to. the states okay well if you get rid of. roie Wade and you leave it up to the. states if someone wants to go to another. state where it is legal and you want to. stop them from doing that or prosecute. them when they come back to your state. that seems to be a problem that's a. problem cuz then it's like you can't. prosecute me for gambling in Vegas. because you own that person's body what. if that person decides to get anart in. Oklahoma right and now they kind of live. there sometimes what are you going to do. it also it seems it where their driver's. license is like what what is that it.

also just seems uh um I don't even know. what the the word it seems like. incoherent or unsustainable to say that. if you're not breaking a law in the area. where you are that you could then be. held responsible for that when you come. back to it because again like it's you. know you go to a state where. recreational marijuana's legal or where. gambling's legal or whatever you know. the idea that it's like if if there's. like the speed limit was 80 mph in the. town over and then I come back and I get.

a speeding ticket for driving too fast. over there where you're allowed to do. that so that seems unworkable a that's a. great analogy that's a great analogy you. it's men too it's men controlling. women's bodies that's that's the thing. of it that freaks people out and it's a. step in the wrong direction if you if. you got rid of roie Wade and that's what. you did so now people have to go to a. place where it's legal if you're stuck. in a state you don't have the resources. but you are pregnant and you want to. make a decision for your own body that's. not up to men to decide if you really.

believe in states rights and you really. believe the United States is one. cohesive Community you should be able to. travel to do whatever the [ __ ] you want. you want to get your dick tattooed you. want what whatever you want to get you. want to get forehead implants so you. look like a unicorn whatever the [ __ ]. you want to do if you want to travel to. go do that including if you want to do. something that's legal it's a medical. procedure that maybe I don't look that I. frown upon but if they just decided in. that state that it's legal you should be. able to do it there yeah I mean I I. think that um the the reasonable. compromise for right now is roie Wade.

was struck down it's a state's rights. issue but yes I agree with you the. tracking of what you do in another state. where it is legal in that state that. first of all just seems unworkable to me. I don't see how that's possibly going to. happen um and then I do feel like that's. going to have to go back to the Supreme. Court anyway because it's such a. precedent that you could be prosecuted. for doing something that was legal in. the area that you did it it's creepy. it's creepy and it's an infringement on. rights I I don't like it even if I don't. like the even if I you know I wasn't a.

pro-choice person if I didn't like the. idea of abortion I like less the idea of. the government telling you what the [ __ ]. you can do and whether or not they can. discover what you did in some other. state like shut up yeah that's it's you. can't do that and that's what I think a. lot of women are fearful of and a lot of. that I don't know if I don't know how. much of a push there is to make. something like that happened we tried to. find that about Texas the other day. there was one case but we just kept. talking what was that one case Jamie.

there was something in Texas where. someone maybe traveled to get an. abortion cuz in Texas it's 6 weeks which. is kind of crazy like you don't have any. time you barely have enough time to. realize you're pregnant for a lot of. women you're well I mean you're probably. not even going to test positive on a. like a home pregnancy test I think for. like 28 days or something like that so. you got two weeks. after that to find out make a decision. do what you got to do and then you have. to make sure you get in under the wire.

or you can get prosecuted like seven. weeks you're in jail which is kind of. crazy yeah look it's very I I don't know. it's it's tough when you're drawing a. line it's very. tough it's very tough to find a line. other than conception that's not. arbitrary right Bill Burr had the best. bit his bit about was fantastic. woman's right to choose but I think. you're killing a baby you know it's like. Jesus Christ he's dead on it's dead on. yeah Louis CK had a great one too I.

can't remember that was an old Louis bit. had a great abortion bit too it's it's a. thing that I always say that if men can. get pregnant abortion be an app on your. phone he'd be able to get a [ __ ]. abortion at the gas station he'd be like. fill it up and take this out like I'm. not [ __ ] that girl I'm not carrying her. baby she was I think this is the case. and it's a little confusing okay. a Texas woman who was jailed and charged. with murder after self-managing an. abortion what does that mean can move. forward with her lawsuit against the.

local sheriff and prosecutors over the. case that Drew National outrage before. the charges were quickly dropped a. federal judge ruled on Wednesday so US. District Judge Drew B Tipton denied a. motion by prosecutors and the sheriff to. dismiss the lawsuit during a hearing in. the boorder city of Mallen Lazelle. Gonzalez who spent two nights in jail on. the murder charges of seeking $1 million. in Damages in the lawsuit did not attend. the hearing Texas Texas one of the most. one of the nation's most restrictive.

abortion bans and outlaws the procedure. with limited exceptions under Texas law. women seeking an abortion are exempt. from criminal charges however so why did. they charge her what did she do what is. self-managing Aban what does that. mean oh she took a drug so uh Gonzalez. was indicted in 2022 after she took the. drug. misoprostol while 19 weeks pregnant she. was treated at Texas hospital where. doctors later performed a cesarian.

section to deliver a stillborn child. after they detected no fetal heartbeat. this is a little different 19 weeks is. pretty late too yeah this is different. the charges were dropped just days after. the woman's arrest okay this is. different this is not someone going to. another state so I think that is. probably uh JD vanity hadn't heard of. that before and he certainly wouldn't. want to put those kind of restrictions. on people. ever but when you leave it leave it up. to the states if you're stuck in one of. those States that's where women get.

really freaked out that roie Wade was. overturned yeah well look it's not none. of these things are perfect compromises. and so even one of the things that's. interesting is like for so long. conservatives wanted to overturn roie. Wade and it always seemed like a pipe. dream like it was never going to. actually happen but then when you do. overturn roie Wade you do realize that. it's like nobody's really happy you know. I mean like it's like uh the blue states. are still going to have like. unrestrictive you know rules about it so. the red the rightwing people aren't.

happy and then the red states are going. to be more restrictive so the left wiers. aren't happy about it it is you know. it's one of those issues that is uh. enormously complex and it's very. difficult you know I'm not sure there is. like a legal solution to it I think it's. a much more of a cultural issue it's. like if you're gonna if you were living. in a society where say it was more. similar to my grandfather's Society. where it was very normal that you.

married your high school sweetheart um. it was very normal that people waited. till marriage to have sex and it was. very typical that you got married at 19. or 20 well look I'm not saying they they. did but I just mean it was much more. typical yeah to get married at 19 and be. married for 60 years or whatever um it's. much easier to have rules about abortion. in that societ. yeah you know whereas like if you're in. like a hookup culture world where most. people are you know people are getting. married at like 35 if they get married.

at all and they're spending from like 17. to 35 being with many different partners. using apps. yeah you're just going to come in and. just write a law on top of that it's. just a very it's a very difficult. situation but uh you know to your. initial point it's like the Dems were. running on that because that was really. the only political winner that they had. that was the only issue that people. actually really cared about and they. were on the Democrat side about it and. that's that's why they had to run on. that it's why Kamala Harris which was.

one of the craziest things of this whole. campaign one of the most amazing things. is that they actually tried to just run. on nothing one of my favorites was that. Tim wal tried to claim that his wife got. pregnant through invitra fertilization. and she said that's not true so he lied. about that what a weird guy he was his. wife had to come out and say he was. lying yeah well so something okay that. guy lied about everything he lied about. being a a head coach he was an assistant.

coach lied about his military rank lied. about whether or not he served in a war. lied about whether or not he was in. tenan. square [ __ ] lies about everything. well see what happened is right so Obama. who was obviously a very very smart guy. and uh you know incredibly talented. politician at least in while he was. running for president he was um I think. he's lost a step but uh so Obama still. was a bit of a narcissist and he wanted.

to pick Joe Biden as his VP he didn't. want someone who was going to outshine. him and so he picked Joe Biden who you. know if you even before he went sceni. was never particularly bright so he. picked Joe Biden as his his VP and uh. then Joe Biden well he wanted some some. uh diversity points and he also wanted. someone to not outshine him because now. he was becoming and he was never that. bright to begin with so he picks Cala. Harris to be his VP and then Camala. Harris needs to pick someone who won't.

outshine her you know what I mean so. it's like the idiocracy just like spun. out of control real quick where all of a. sudden you get to like the third VP in a. row and you're like yo really this is. who you picked like he's a knucklehead. you know what's it's crazy is that this. was in in many ways this was uh this. presidential election was just so wild. and so different from anything I've ever. seen in my lifetime you know I'm 41 and. this was different than any other. presidential election of my lifetime for. sure and I think substantially before.

yeah I think I think before that too um. but then there were these things that. were also just like very conventional. explanations for why you look at this. Trump blowout and it's almost like as. you look back at it it's like yeah what. you guys thought you could get away with. just just very basic things that like. Donald Trump picked a VP who whether you. like him or not is a pretty impressive. guy very impressive pretty impressive. guy there's a guy who went to who was. raised by a single parent who was a drug. addict and ended up serving the country.

going to an Ivy League school becoming a. venture capitalist becoming a a a. senator and and can sit and have a. conversation with you for three hours. and be very intelligent and expressive. like and have fun he had fun however you. feel about him objectively an impressive. person he picked a VP that could help. him he could do things that Trump can't. do you know like he could go on on a. show and and really make the case pretty. well in a hostile environment he's got a. very high verbal IQ clearly you know.

he's very intelligent guy she picked a. VP who can't do anything to help her. who's like the weirdest human being. you've ever seen like like what was the. strategy here guys and they actually. they really just banked on being not. Trump that they go you know all of the. things that she ran on four years ago. she walked away from every position and. didn't have an answer for any of them. didn't have an answer for why like it's. totally fine to change your mind on. something and it's totally should have a. reason yeah I mean and it's very easy.

we've all changed our minds on a lot of. things and if you were like hey dude you. used to believe this but you believe. this now you be like well let me tell. you something I read this guy and he. just made such a good argument about it. and then he had all this data that I had. really seen before that's fine but she. never had an answer for any of them she. went my values haven't. changed what well okay so but again. what's the answer then like you were for. Medicare for all now you're not you were. for open borders now you're not you were. for whatever a bunch of other stuff. trans surgeries for prisoners or.

whatever now you're not what H she had. no answer for that she's also the. sitting VP and they go oh so are you. running on the track record of the last. four years like no no no I'm also not. going to run on that wh well why not. because I'm not Joe Biden like it's like. what what that's what you're running on. that's it it's just like it was so. unbelievable many people were behind her. which is even Wilder it's wild that so. many people were like yeah this is what. we got so let's just [ __ ] Gaslight. the [ __ ] out of half the country and run.

with it and also let see how far we can. take I got a piss let's come let's come. back we'll talk about this I've been. holding did the sauna earlier sorry no. did an hour he's an old dude man he's. old dudes with bad posture are different. than old dudes with regular posture. that's a very good point once they get. to like this yeah it's it it's not a lot. they [ __ ] it's hard to keep your head. up yeah after a while gravity just wins. yeah but Trump keeps on trucking he's. the only guy that went four years in the. white house and didn't get. older something something really.

interest pretty the same pretty the same. four years later where everybody else. looks like they've been near a nuclear. blast radiation poisoning yeah it's a. really really good point I've always. thought there was something about like. um because you know just from from doing. standup you know if you think about like. you if you really try to remember back. to like your first like few months in. Stand Comedy you remember like how. daunting getting up in front of people. was it's like a thing you know and. that's that's the first step to being a.

stand-up comedian isn't like getting. great material or even being it's like. hey get comfortable with going up in. front of a group of people and speaking. into a microphone to them get. comfortable with not getting a laugh. when you wanted to get one get. comfortable that and there is something. where like like in in. 2016 you know and people forget about. this human ele of it right like Jeb Bush. okay he's the son of a president he's. the brother of a president and he was. the governor of Florida it's not like he. was a uh like a a rookie but when he's.

on that debate stage he is stepping onto. the biggest stage of his life he's never. been in front of a crowd like that. before Donald Trump it's Tuesday right. like this is what I do Donald Trump's. like cracking his neck and going out. there like oh are all the spotlights and. cameras on me that's about right okay. you know like it's just like he's and he. was so comfortable that was a huge. Factor why he was able to just nuke. everybody cuz it's like yeah this is. what I do I'm the center of attention. these guys have never been there before.

he was funny when he was talking about. the oneliner that he cracked about Rosie. O'Donnell he goes thank God I had that. one because she was coming after me she. was coming after me I I had that one I. got her with that one well he he won her. over he did look at her speaking for him. apparently she crushed it and made fun. of Mark Cuban yeah yeah she did she did. it was great yeah I watched it she's a. she's watch it I haven't seen she's very. sharp I can tell he's very impressive. she was the original Fox fot she was the. original like super hot woman on Fox who.

was so so much smarter than you and. you're like smarter and Ice Queen. they're all wearing something very. inappropriate yeah I said vagina. curtains I a bit about it like not even. a good curtain like the kind of grandma. has over the kitchen sing that flutters. in the breeze by like Jesus Christ. you're inches away from vagina that's. covered by this thinnest piece of. cloth it's a wild way to dress it's a. weird culture over there fo it's amazing. let's hear it four years ago we had mark.

cubin on the program you know yeah may. have seem he was in the news this week. and he started going on about how bad. America's race history was and how. ashamed he was of America and that's why. he was at all these protests and he felt. it was really important to stand up and. speak out about human rights. violations and then it got awkward when. I asked him about all the money he was. taking from. China then he dropped a bunch of f bombs. and I thought I really enjoy this. feeling of proving Mark Cuban.

wrong and so here I. am at a trump. rally a strong intelligent woman to. prove Mark Cuban wrong. again damn yeah that had a sting yeah. she's she's a beast yeah that one that. one has t yeah it was very she's it's. funny too cuz she's not like been in. politics but that was very like.

politically Savvy that was like a really. smart way to go at it um well she was. very demonized as well remember when she. went over to do that NBC show that was. crazy like they took her from Fox they. gave her a [ __ ] ton of money and then. they just didn't like her over the and. it was over the lamest thing I forget. even the comments something about. blackface. costum can you pretend to be a person. that you admire that's like if you want. to be Diana Ross she was like I don't. think what's wrong with that right it's.

not a bad question there's one thing if. you are mocking africanamerican people. if you have like [ __ ] Al jolon. blackface on but if what if you want to. be Mr T and you're a 10-year-old kid and. Mr T's his hero do you really think that. kid's racist he puts a bunch of gold. chains on and brown makeup on his face. like what are we calling blackface like. what does that mean really blackface in. terms of like Al jol type stuff yeah. like they literally used to use white. guys pretending to be black guys in.

movies so they didn't have to have black. stars and they would be like o overtly. dumb and it was like insult it was very. insulting it was clearly like we think. lesser of these people but that's not. necessarily the case if you just have. the color black whatever M tyon for. Halloween you can't you can do. everything but the skin color which is. just bizar are well there's that's uh. one of the other things that I I do. think is has been very interesting over. the last really over the last couple.

years I guess and it's really on display. with the Trump re-election thing is that. the culture has moved did you ever see. when I talked to Robert Downey Jr about. Tropic Thunder yeah you think could you. do it today he goes oh you could do it. yeah that was great that was such a. great response he's great that is. technically true you could do it I. thought his conversation The Avengers. thing with K was Goofy but I love Robert. D yeah yeah that was a real interesting. to get him to eat meat every time I look. at him I'm like I'm very concerned oh is. he that's right he. doesn't California vegan well I do think. there's some stuff that we look back at.

now at like 2017 2018 like the wokeism. of that era does seem to be like yeah. things aren't quite as crazy as they. were then or at least this there was a. little bit of like fatigue of it you. kind of can't get away with it anymore. isn't that like the pendulum though. doesn't it like swing one way or the. other way and ultimately it moves into a. it it's moving towards a better. direction for society and it's just a. massive overcorrection and then you have.

Hustlers and grifters who get involved. in and amplify the movement right and. all like the black lives matters girls. who bought all the real estate there was. also some accusation that they bought. the house for substantially more than a. person paid for just recently before. that and they know they have a. connection to that person like there's. some like other Shenanigans yeah with. that it's the Communists who are always. like yeah but I also want to be a. millionaire it's wonderful it's. wonderful when the grift get exposes. gets exposed so I thought with in the.

the election this year there were like. kind of and and woke culture in general. so I mean broader than the election. there were kind of like three major. factors that I think were really. interesting um one was that I think the. anti-. uh I think the the like for lack of. better term like the kind of anti-woke. or. woke people kind of one out in the. marketplace um there's there's examples. of like uh Tom I think yes I think you.

an example of that the Tom Brady Ross. was an example of that Shane gillis's. career was an example of that you know. Tim Dylan's career was an example of. that it's just at a certain point it's. not even that Netflix changed their mind. and they're willing to have these guys. on because they had like some. ideological transformation it's just. like I don't know dude they's so they're. so big they have so many fans this is. going to get a ton of views on it there. and and a mix of that and also kind of. for the first time there was like a cost. imposed with the budlight stuff and the.

target stuff there were these like kind. of very effective boycotts where it's. like oh we're you're there's going to be. a cost imposed on you if you do that the. second uh factor with with the Trump. stuff and why they weren't able to get. the shock troops out and when I say the. shock troops I just mean the left-wing. 20-year-old useful idiots who will come. out and protest yes there's a fascist. movement here right so one of the things. that happened and this is part of why. you know this this is a a. non-controversial explanation for 2020. vers 2024 is that in the year 2020 Joe.

Biden's Central pitch to America was a. return to normaly yeah and that was a. very attractive pitch I think to a lot. of people especially if you can put. yourself in November of 2020 you know. you've gone through the craziest year. ever and it's there's lockdowns there's. riots the the whole economy is a mess. everybody is freaking out yes all and. and you're constantly going like oh my.

God Trump is is is crazy and then the. reaction to him is crazy and then Joe. Biden could just be like listen you know. me I've been in the senate for 700 years. yeah let's go back to regular America ad. are in the room yes exactly and by the. way okay I'm not campaigning that's true. I'm in I'm in my house the whole time. but there's a pandemic that's kind of. the respon responsible thing to do you. know Donald Trump's doing a super. spreader event right now that was still. The Narrative at the time even though. none of it was real someone die from Co. that went to one of his events yeah I.

think maybe I I vaguely remember this. was it Ben Carson Ben Carson he got Co. didn't I don't remember who died from. covid that went to one of his ear dead I. don't think I I don't remember I think. somebody I think somebody might have I. vaguely remember this story guy who was. a supporter of of trump who W up getting. Co and dying which like whatever who. even knows whether he got it there find.

out what that was well it probably did I. think it was legitimately I think it was. a super spreader event but yes well it. you know it might have been I don't know. these outdoor events I don't know if. they really were or not bro they're all. in tight proximity to each other just. like the flu Herman Herman Kane that's. her Kane that's right that's right yes. okay yes I do remember that um so Ben. Carson still Al sorry Ben Ben you're. doing great brilliant man too another. guy who's like very dismissed yes yes I. mean he's a bit of an odd duck but he's. a genius for sure you got the painting.

with Jesus behind him with his hands on. his shoulders like hey bro yes there's. some weird stuff going on there but he. actually he has an interesting guy. brilliant very very brilliant um but so. anyway this pitch of like the return to. normaly in 2020. is it's attractive and it also look it. fed into the the thesis essentially of. the entire ire corporate media was like. the problem is Trump right the problem. is Trump everything was United States of. America then this Trump guy came in and. ruined everything you know um whereas.

the reality was always much deeper than. that that like no there were these huge. problems and that's why a trump like. figure was so attractive to people but. then what happened is Joe Biden came in. and nothing went back to normal it got. even crazier than it was under Donald. Trump so now people were looking back at. the first three years of Donald Trump. like that seems pretty normal compared. to what we've going through in the Biden. Administration so this sucked a lot of. the energy out and also you didn't have. the mystery of trump he's going to be. Adolf Hitler in there no he's not he's.

been in for four years you know in 2016. they were like you can't trust him with. the nuclear codes and there was a little. bit of a plausible claim to that like I. don't know he would be the first. president ever with no political or. military experience and he does seem. like a little bit of a wild man but you. can't really sell that anymore after. he's been president so that kind of took. away from the the energy and another. thing I don't know I have not I'm not. saying I'm the only one making this. point I haven't heard anyone else making. this point and I just I think this is a. huge part of it okay like a huge part of.

the reason why you didn't see tens of. thousands of young people out protesting. Trump at Madison Square Garden you only. had like a 100 people there is because. those young left-wingers who were. reliable shock troops for the regime. over the last decade they've been. protesting a genocide for the last year. right they've spent a full year Pro. testing what they consider and at least. the international court of justice. plausibly considers a genocide and it's. very hard to get someone who's been.

protesting babies being slaughtered to. turn around and pretend that something. else is way more of an outrage and. especially to then go protest on behalf. of the ones who are doing the genocide. that you've been protesting against for. the last year at least yeah right I mean. listen man yes it's. I mean I Israel forget uh invading. Lebanon or going to war with Iran Israel. can't conduct the war in Gaza without. the US it's our weapons it's our money.

it's our intelligence that they're using. to do this it's it's you know America is. if you view this as a genocide which I. don't really use that word too often but. I do view it as like just horrific um. and if you view it that way there's no. way that the US isn't implicated this. only happens because the US is funding. supporting this and if you want to get. those activists to get outraged it's. something else other than that when. that's obviously the most pressing. concern globally it's very tough they've. spent a year doing that and it really.

hurt her these young kids you think of. the difference between 2016 and 2020 and. then 2024 podcasts huge way different. they all listen to podcasts everybody. gets Clips you hear opposing. perspectives you hear very intelligent. people come on and make arguments that. you're not hearing on TV anymore and. they get shared even if it's just shared. Clips on Tik Tok and YouTube re or. YouTube shorts and Instagram reels. they're getting shared left and right. and you you can't just keep a narrative.

going anymore you can't work you know. like even this came up a bunch in uh. when I was debating Chris Cuomo but it's. like even just the way they you know the. way they talk about you or like where. it's like oh these these bro culture. guys or something like that like I again. I'm sorry objectively object itively. this isn't an opinion what happens on. this show is so much more intelligent. and thoughtful and deep than anything. that's going on at CNN you just can't.

tell you can't tell me that you sitting. down with Elon Musk for three hours and. then compare that to like Wolf Blitzer. with all his Graphics behind him talking. for 30 seconds before he goes to a. pharmaceutical commercial and then. coming back and having the dumbest left. Wier yell at the dumbest right winger. really and you guys are going to act. like you're the grown-ups in the room. like it's just it's too ridiculous and. and that's right so the entire Young. Generation has they've all turned that. off that nobody none of them are getting. their news from from CNN anymore and.

look man that's I think the most. beautiful part of this election yeah M. media is dead yeah that's right that a. wrap son and. certainly not comparable anymore and if. you look at the numbers like what are. the numbers that CNN has for a Regular. Show compared to like the numbers of the. Trump podcast I don't think they have a. a show that regularly cracks a million. views the inag their biggest one is. still under a million the Twitter uh the. X video that I posted when I posted Elon. on the podcast between me and him it got.

65 million views in a. day it's unbelievable D in a. day yeah and that's not counting YouTube. which is like another I don't know how. many million he got on YouTube that's. not counting Spotify we don't even know. those numbers yet cuz it was just two. days ago right 65 between his account. and my account 65 million views and you. know there was um like the x is the. number one news source on Earth yeah on. Earth it's the most trusted because it's.

the only one that's not [ __ ] with yeah. so even if someone's incorrect the. community notes will correct them yep. the the community notes are Rock Solid. it's a great way to find out what's real. and what's not real and then you look in. the comments and you see people debating. it and it's happening in real time and. it's happening whenever something breaks. and it's it's way better than what. you're going to get on corporate control. media it's way better Elon Musk buying. Twitter was at least as important as. Trump winning election again maybe more. May the most important thing about Trump. winning might be that he's able to stop.

them from coming after Elon Musk well. that that's a big factor but I also. think that Elon Musk buying Twitter if. if that doesn't happen I don't think. Trump wins the way he wins oh 100% I. think it's real tight I think if if he. does win it's barely okay Let's Take. podcast out he doesn't win at all. you take him being on theovon him being. on me him being on all these different. nek boys all these different Andrew. Schultz that was a big one Schultz was.

flagrant was a big one because it got. him to [ __ ] around y you know you see. him laughing and joking around and. Schulz is joking with him they're having. a good time that humanized him more do. you see that Schultz they [ __ ] pulled. his special from a theater three hours. after the Trump thing got released yeah. and then he did it at a bigger theater. of course which by the way that's. another thing that's changed. that's fascinating thing to me right so. L I've watched thisen and I know you. have too where the the cancelling.

stopped working it was so effective and. then all the sudden it just stopped work. big part of that is Elon Musk for sure. but there's other factors involved in it. too um I mean but I remember like there. were guys in 2016 2017 who were very. much like in the National conversation. and they got straight up removed from. that Milo miloop a great example when he. went on Bill Mah he had like he killed.

it on Bill Mah he killed it on your show. Bill Mah compared him to Christopher. Hitchens yeah he went you're like a gay. Christopher Hitchens or something like. that yeah so he's so now and then he. made the other guys look like fools too. like he so then he's then he gets taken. down and he went from being a guy who. was like very much shaping the national. conversation to being just removed from. it and there were other guys a bit of a. drug problem yeah I'm not even saying. there weren't other factors involved but. there were a bunch of people like that. who got removed and I do think I think. the Tipping Point was when they came for.

you and it failed um but it seems like. around that time it stopped work listen. I I heard of Andrew Tate for the first. time ever when he got canceled from. everything right that was when I like F. I didn't know who he was before that and. then he was like oh the guy who got. canceled for everything and now he's. bigger than he ever was Googled. maning yeah my kid asked me about him. cuz my kids were getting little videos. off of Tik Tok this is before he got in. like real trouble when he was just.

starting to like mana feere and a bunch. of young guys resonating with it she. goes what do you think about him and I. said he's a legit kickboxer like I used. to watch him kickbox he was uh like you. know in that organization whatever. organization he was a champion he's. legit he can fight man oh yeah I've seen. fighting he can really fight when he. became like this um Manos fear. influencer I was like okay that kind of. tracks kind of makes sense right right. well I just the thing that I found so. interesting was just and and it happened. with him uh great example is Tucker.

Carlson Candace Candace Owens oh yeah um. and then even the thing we were just. saying about uh our boy Schultz uh it's. like these cancellation attempts all of. the sudden they went from like oh my God. this could ruin you so like it's making. you stronger did you see when Tony went. on stage last night no bro at the Mother. Ship bro. Like Richard PR showed up do you have. video of the opening ohas they go nuts. they go nuts when Tony's this is the new. Dynamic now yeah it's like the tool that.

they used to use to control the. narrative is now losing them more and. more of the narrative not only that Tony. now has 35 minutes on the whole thing. really yeah 35 minutes on Puerto Rico. and this whole thing people is he do is. he going up tonight oh yeah I'll. probably up tonight I want to go watch. that I'd love to go watch that I love. that's the best. by the way the best thing in comedy is. like when there's like a huge thing and. someone's got there's just something. about like when they got new fresh stuff. on the thing that just happened is just.

the best part of standup oh it's my like. my n-word compilation joke I dude I. remember uh what literally one of my f. like if I had to put a flag down on like. five of my favorite moments since I've. been in comedy that uh that show that we. did at um what's it called the Vulcan. yeah uh it was before the mothership was. opened but it was the day after it came. out and it was amazing there was. something surreal about it watching you. go on stage in the moment where you're.

like in the crosshairs of the biggest. cancellation attempt and then having you. just do the bit on it is so goddamn good. I mean you did you put it out on your uh. your last special but watching it the. next day after it just happened was like. there's just an energy about that that. you're just like oh [ __ ] dude like this. and it was just amazing amazing show. it's an opportunity to take something. and turn into a positive like take this. moment and create a bit out of it oh. dude I uh my my favorite uh show of the.

year uh was I just literally I happened. to be doing a weekend at the Mother Ship. when Trump got uh got shot I mean I was. leaving my hotel to walk over to the. Mothership and then just all of a sudden. my phone started blowing up like text. Tex text Tex T all this and I was like. what the [ __ ] happened here and then I. pulled up the video I was like oh [ __ ]. and then that show whatever The Ear The. Early Show on that day man for any if.

people were there it was just the most. fun it's the most fun part of standup. where you're almost just like you go. like well forget what I thought we were. going to be talking about today cuz now. we're going in a whole new Direction. what am I going to go up there and not. talk about this for a half hour how is. that possible you know especially for me. like you know it's like w I've got to go. do this it's just something beautiful. that's the best part of standup comedy. man it's a great part and if you're. there live it's so fun it's so fun when. you know someone is talking about. something that just happened it's so fun. and I've gotten um I've gotten like uh.

messages and tweets and stuff like that. like from people who are at that show. I'll still get like you know like. someone like come up and just be like. dude I was at that show at that time I'm. like yeah that was a good one man that. was a good one you don't get a whole lot. of moments like that when the president. almost gets [ __ ] iced and then all. the nutty people trying to say he staged. his assassin ation attempt so that he. could regain the White House it was a. propaganda those are the nuttiest of. left-wing people you think flat earthers. are nuts you think a 78-year-old guy is.

going to allow some dude with iron. sights to shoot and Nick his ear from. 140 yards away well um also another guy. did get killed yeah uh there seems. pretty more than one person got shot. yeah um I really. wonder if Trump's going to try to get to. the bottom of that stuff or if maybe he. just doesn't want to even push it it's. hard to know what happened there but he. seems like a Lee Harvey Oswald type dude.

he seems like a a guy that they set up. well there's a lot to that story there's. uh both stories uh with both of the. assassination attempts. um are very fishy very there's just. something that just doesn't add up the. one with Crooks is the most fishy it's. did you see the video of his dad. his dad leaving Costco so he's got. Costco with a whole full card of stuff. and there's a dude who's with him who's. wearing gloves and a mask and sunglasses.

and a hoodie and this guy's helping him. he's wearing gloves yeah so he's not. leaving any fingerprints anywhere it's. the weirdest look this guy's and this is. like recent right so this is in the. heart of Co where. someone who had dressed like this it was. really recent yeah I think so the. assassination attemp was only a few. months ago yeah so you have. Crook's dad and his dad is pushing the. shopping cart and you got this dude. who's with him who's like in full. disguise with gloves it's very weird the.

well look I mean so you have there's the. first one where you have th this guy is. able and you can see this is all on. videotape this guy is walking around. scoping out that roof look at this I. think he's wearing gloves I think he's. just wearing he's got his hoodie. covering his hands a little bit right. there you still oh they not gloves I. don't think so why do I think he. gloves he is covering everything else up. though you sure he's not wearing okay.

he's got his I I see why you thought. that though it's a weird it's a weird. look for sure well he's he's covering. his [ __ ]. hands yeah he is covering his hands not. GL so he's got a full mask on he's got. sunglasses on and a hoodie and it's. nighttime and this guy is okay so no no. gloves but it's just bizarre very. bizarre um obviously the guy doesn't. want people to know who he is cuz he's. with the the father of the guy who tried.

to kill the [ __ ] president well the. the fact that somebody could be able to. to get up on that roof with a rifle 130. yards away from the president and then. all the excuses that they made made. absolutely no ex sense it sense it was. too sloped of a roof the lady didn't. want to step down yeah this is very yeah. all very strange and then. the second one you've got a guy who has. a felony conviction for possession of. weapons of mass destruction where he.

barricaded himself uh while police were. pursuing him with like explosives or. something I mean he's yeah there's a. it's the charge was weapons of mass. destruction I remember that cuz like I. like I didn't even realize that was a. charge um I thought that was just. something Bush lied about but evidently. there's a real criminal so he had bombs. like suicide bombs I you know I don't. know exactly what they were but I know. that was the charge and it was a felony. and then this [ __ ] is recruiting. for the Ukrainian war effort and is.

going back and forth to an active war. zone trying to recruit Afghan fighters. to fight in the war on the Ukrainian. side and then he comes back and tries to. assassinate Donald Trump and then the. entire National conversation is like is. the rhetoric about Donald Trump too far. and you're like listen man I'm not. saying it's not plausible that if you. call the guy Hitler every day maybe some. you know deranged young person will be. like I'm going to take out Hitler but. when this guy is going and recruiting.

for the Ukrainian war effort this. doesn't sound to me like someone. radicalized by Joy Reed you know what I. mean this sounds like something a little. deeper is going on and then there is ABS. much like with Jeffrey ebstein right. there is no desire amongst the supposed. journalist class to even look into it. and then his son gets hit with child. porn charges yeah so like if his son. knew anything about what was going on no. one's going to listen to him now [ __ ]. guy's jerking off to kids [ __ ] it's.

just it look at the very least it's very. bizarre and when you have a guy you know. like I'm not saying I've got like a case. I could present in front of a jury and. get a conviction but when you've got a. guy who has been targeted by the regime. unlike any other political figure in. American history well let's say since. Kennedy but more so because he just. survived an assassination attempt. Kennedy got shot but the attacks on him. the law fair attacks are unprecedented. the the weaponizing of the legal system.

in front of everybody's eyes like trying. to find a crime yeah no that's right and. so all of that and then you see these. multiple attempts happen it you'd be. crazy to not at least want to have like. some real investigation into this some. some interest in looking at this and all. that about press conference how about. one press confence about Crooks how. about tell me what you know did you get. a toxicolog examination or did you just. burn the body yeah and you can't get his. we can't get into his phone he had no. social media footprint come on dude his.

apartment was professionally scrubbed. yeah didn't even have silver in his. house yeah it's it's all just very. strange so I wonder now that Trump's. back in does he does he look into that. and I'm not even saying you know like I. really I just want Trump to end the wars. oh listen if Donald Trump if he secures. the Border and ends the if he ends the. war in Ukraine secures the border and uh. ramps up oil production R up oil. production does something to help the. economy put him on Mount Rushmore like.

that's that's enough man like I don't. you know what I mean like that's that's. enough for me but I I am curious like I. wonder where he is I always wanted to be. on M Rush more I believe I deserve it. and I'll I'll say we kick one of them. off we're not we're not making more room. you guys we could take a vote can you. imagine you imagine the [ __ ] sock. hats screaming in the street if they. change Mount Rushmore yeah TJ stays but. I'm thinking Lincoln's got to go no. Lincoln's a man Lincoln was a wrestler.

keep him well all right fine giant freak. of a man probably gay he was a giant. freak of a man indefinitely I think. spent a lot of time in cabins with other. dudes I think everybody was gay back. then that's what I think it's possible I. think there was a lot of gayness back. then and you know I I base this on uh. ancient cultures like Afghanistan all. the gay [ __ ] they do well you also got. to think like if you're in a world. without like um plumbing and and. toothbrushes and razors [ __ ] a man or. [ __ ] a woman not that much different.

not a whole lot different at that point. dude especi if you're in a trench yeah. it's at that point you're basically like. you're just you're you're you're having. sex with an animal is what you're doing. but so many warriors in the past Were. Gay like Samurai did a lot of gay stuff. Spartans did a lot of gay stuff a lot of. gay stuff well it's one of of the things. that I think we've kind of found out um. with the the the trans stuff over the. last few years is that it's like there.

there are cultural norms that you can. set up where people will do a lot of. stuff that you might consider to be very. like bizarre and it's very easy when you. don't have those cultural parameters to. be like no one would do that just. because you made it like acceptable. prison yeah yeah exactly we're so gross. if you leave us alone with no one but us. we just [ __ ] each other yeah that's how. gross we are and it's also kind and and. it's like a punchline in a weird way. like it's just nothing like it's also. the one kind of rape you can hope.

someone gets yeah you know that was. actually I hope he gets raped in prison. Kurt Kurt meter uh made this point I. remember it was sometime during like the. me too movement oh I know what it was it. was when did you ever see the Law and. Order episode where they did like the me. too comic no it's the most ridiculous. thing ever dude it was just in the you. know Law and Order they just got a bang. out a half hour show like every other. day or whatever yeah so it's so the it. was at the height of like Council. culture me too and all this stuff and so.

the theme I'm not exaggerating this okay. the theme is there's a a a shop comic. and he's he's making all these rape. jokes and uh now of course they do it in. a way like as if this would work at a. comedy club like you're just like hey. you I hope you get raped and the crowd's. like yeah yeah so they're at a comedy. club I believe it was filmed the comic. strip live um I think it was there I'm. not sure but it was at a comedy club he. do this so some some girls get up and. they walk out because they're very. uncomfortable with like oh my God these. rape jokes are not funny blah blah blah.

then the girl leaves gets raped turns. out it was the rape comic who rapes her. and that's the it's the most ridiculous. like goddamn story ever but this was an. episode of Law and Order and then Kurt. just started he made the point that he. goes you know on this show it's just a. regular thing that they threaten men. with rape like every single time they're. in they're like in getting someone they. go guys like you don't do very well in. prison you know what I mean and it's. always just like the threat of like we. will put you in a rape torture dungeon. if you don't do X Y and Z and I thought.

it was like a really brilliant point. that that's just totally acceptable. totally threatening a man with ra you. would guys like you don't do very well. in prison is a common like saying and we. all know what that means they're saying. you will be anally raped against your. will but whatever you're a dude so who. cares my friend was telling me about uh. the American Taliban guy you know that. guy that went over to uh to join the. Taliban he said they raped that guy like. a thousand times he said like that guy. was a prisoner over there for like four.

years and they just raped him. continuously and he said when he was. working overseas when he was deployed he. said you'd see guys raping guys all the. time yeah there was this one very slow. guy that worked in the kitchen and these. guys were lined up to rape this guy. Jesus there was one guy who had a. colostomy bag and the guy kept getting. sick he had to get Medevac he's like. he'd get infected would go they found. out they were [ __ ] the hole where the. bag goes into his side guys we're. [ __ ] the hole where his colostomy bag.

gets. inserted that's not cool yeah but when. you have a culture that says like men uh. can't have sex with women except to. procreate and the women have to be. dressed up in a certain way. and not good you leave them alone with. themselves it's very Freudian man it's. old you culture well this is the this is. the Freudian observation which is a very. brilliant one however people feel about. Freud it's like you repress you know. certain desires and they reemerge in.

much darker ways you know there's just. like you have to have a release valve. otherwise it's like human beings go into. very very dark very dark places well. it's just people don't react well to. other people telling them what to do and. when I was in high school the thing was. Catholic school girls were always freaks. right like Catholic school girls were. because they didn't get to be around any. boys ever they were just at school with. girls they're all dressed in skirts and. they're all told that they're all those. desires that they have their body's. going through puberty and they're just.

horny all the time that they're bad yeah. and then they can't wait to get along. with a guy can't it's again the same. thing like you repress it in one area. it's just it reemerges in a much uglier. way than if you had just been yeah. exactly that's the best example of it. emerging in the creepier way and you. know why they did that with Catholic. priests why cuz the priests were like. rock stars they were [ __ ] everybody. so you can't have sex anymore you can't. get married but imagine saying to like a. grown man that you can't ever have sex. or jerk off that's the expectation the.

expectation is that you're supposed to. never come and they would give you. medication so that you couldn't get hard. they'd give you salt peter yeah you're. going to draw you're you're G to if. that's the job to sign up to you're. going to draw in some weird people who. want to sign up to that job. what was that what's that stuff called. is it called salt peter is that what. they give them to make sure that they. stayed impotent kills their sexual. desires I don't know I heard of this.

[ __ ] poison I mean what is what's. doing that what's doing that what what's. killing your it's killing your. testosterone killing your sex hormones. what else is it doing how depressed are. you yeah that can't be good how many of. them are alcoholics you ever go to a. Catholic church and you see the guy. speaking the the the the whatever is. Bishop whatever the [ __ ] he is big. stupid blown up nose because he just. like he's got Gin Blossoms all over his. face just hammered every day he lives in. hell yeah he lives in Hell he's probably.

a closeted gay guy that took this. [ __ ] job 45 years ago and now he's. like this is my life now I'm 60 here I. am like what am I doing with myself yeah. and I've I've I've talked Peter stuff. Jamie did you find. it was what what is Sal Peter used for. and is it true reduces certain carnal. urges the second part of the question is. easy to answer salt peter the term. refers to either potassium or sodium. nitrate has no effect on carnal urges. the story that this chemical was put. into soldiers food to decrease their sex.

drive is a total myth but what about for. priests that's what I had heard so is it. one of those things they thought thought. did that symptoms can range from double. vision and difficulty and swallowing to. paralysis and death the spores of this. organism lurk in many foods under the. right conditions lack of oxygen low. acidity becomes active and Liber their. toxin sausages are the classic example. of type of food that can be affected and. the word botulism in fact derives from. the Latin botus meaning.

sausage gole what so this this botula. scroll back up again I feel like I. picked this up at a weird. place um serious Aus of salt peter one. of the most deadly substances known to. mankind is produced by clri. Clum botum botul. botulinum bacteria 7 million times more. toxic than Cobra Venom botulin poisons. its victims by blocking the actions of. neurotransmitter acetycholine symptoms.

can range okay so this is the symptoms. from botulism as salt peter come from. botulism so one of okay one of the. serious as aspects of his one of the. most deadly substances known to mankind. is this botulism. bacteria okay botulism could be. prevented by the apprpriate use of. sodium nitrate discovery that actually. became about in an accidental fashion. salting of meat is an ancient method of. preservation based on the ability of. sodium chloride to kill bacteria by. drawing out much of their water content.

about 500 years ago some clever cook. noted that the effectiveness of salt and. preserving meat depends upon its source. furthermore salt that worked. particularly well improved the meat's. flavor and color okay the secret turned. out to be an impurity pottassium nitrate. more familiar known as salt peter okay. so this is how they came up with it to. combat. botulism okay now what about how how. does salt peter work what what's the. point of it why would people take it I. don't.

understand what's it say you wanted to. about priest correct was the original. thing yes okay because this is what we. had always heard when we were kids that. they would give priest salt peter to. suppress their carnal urges. so here it says Sal Peter known for used. many purposes in the past including as a. curing agent key compound of. gunpowder this stuff does everything. yeah but what about sexual.

urges they debunk the myth about salt. peter lowering libido or sex drive it's. false it's a myth that's been going. around for years the myth started when. what does it say let's hear where the. myth started when would go with QR Tri. military times okay but if you see that. where it says there top answer I know. those are all Q things those are just. those are me message boards essentially. right but I would just like to see what. that person on the message board says I.

think it's kind of interesting the myth. started with the military see this. article from Snopes popular myth. promoted by youngsters in boarding. schools interesting summer camps as well. as men in the military in prisons some. boys are men use this as an excuse for. sexual performance problems doctors and. pharmacists have debunked the myth about. salt peter lowering the libido prostate. or sex drives is false even if some. ignorant random uh prison did this to a. group of inmates they've proven it would. not have the negative effects people.

keep saying it does but that doesn't. prove that they didn't do it right. they're just saying it wouldn't work it. doesn't work so maybe they like tried to. use it against maybe it was like a. theoretical thing that they thought was. going to you know like um wasn't that. like Spanish Fly you remember Spanish. fly yeah yeah that's Cosby uh bragged. about right that's the creepiest tape. ever the creepiest he had a bit about it. and then he did an episode about it they. did an episode where say like barbecue.

sauce or something like that his special. barbecue sauce to get everybody horny. what a weird how did by the way no one I. guess in the 80s people had a lot of. blinders on but he just like he was like. hey I got an idea for the episode like. maybe it's like you know we're doing you. know the hustable family and I just make. my barbecue sauce and all the chicks. want to [ __ ] you're like wait what why. would you do that on the show Family. sitcom I thought we were going to do. like Theo gets in a fight and then we. have to talk to him about like keeping. his grades up the importance of homework. yeah right like it was it was just so.

out of the ordinary for what that show. was and he's like now really listen I'm. the star and it really means a lot to me. that we do this episode like how strange. so I think Spanish Fly was another myth. that people thought was real and I. remember hearing about it when I was a. kid that you could give a girl a thing. this whatever this Spanish Fly was find. the what's the origin of Spanish Spanish. Fly I I stumbled across something crazy. about this uh salt peter stuff yeah uh. I'm trying to read it I was trying to. read through this fast so I could give.

you a quick answer there is a job it. says in like Sweden I had to transfer. this uh salt peter. welder profession whose task consists of. collecting urine soaked Earth in order. to make more salt peter because they. used it in ammunition so they had these. barns where pias it says here pissing. men I was trying to get it here wow and. that's how they' make gum powder yeah. you'd piss on the ground into the soil. and then they'd get enough of that stuff. together finally and then wow you could.

make some Gunpowder out how much how. much exper but how much experimentation. did it take to figure out that like no. listen dude Hey listen if I piss on the. ground I can make gunpowder you be like. how'd you figure that out listen dude. it's a long story all right I was doing. a lot of stuff this weekend what year. was this 1830 the 1600 1600 they F this. figure this out yeah oh my God that is. wild yeah they hold on stop go scroll. back up a little bit what is this say. here all peasants the priest made sure.

that no one was forgotten were forced to. deliver their imposed quota of salt. peter soil along with Ash wood and coal. to the nearest simmering plant the. obligation was replaced in 1634 by a. salt peter tax the salt peter Jews it's. always the Jews now instead came to. collect the soil themselves from under. the farmers barns the salt peter tax was. replaced in 1801 by an obligation for. each mantle to annually Supply one half.

what does that say Li pound of salt. peter to the state what does that mean. yeah this was transferred or uh Li pound. Swedish okay 1830 the salt peter tax. ceased entirely the farmers were. required to have wooden floors in the. barns in order for this salt peter. formation to take place they were. required to have wooden this is crazy. The Peasants complained about these. impositions and about the visits of the. suds the simmering lasted annually from. May 1st to September 29th the simmering.

consisted continued for six to S days or. until an egg could float on the surface. at this time lime and Ash were added. which cause which caused the included. common salt to crystallize and be could. thus be removed the whole thing was then. allowed to cool down down to about 25°. when the salt peter began to crystallize. the raw salt peter was then transported. to the gunpowder Mills the boilers had. the to have the right F to take fuel for.

the cooking is the simmer does that mean. that they made like a a little Pond of. PE urine and then they poured chemicals. on sounds like a little I don't know. what it would be it says it's simmering. but they must have had a vat of it they. must have had like a big cauldron of. piss that's the. piss dirt that they cooked until you. could float an egg on the surface dude. what bro how did someone figure it out. to your point how we're so lucky we live. now oh my God I don't want to live in.

the time where I got a pissed on the. dirt to make gun by the way people are. going to be saying that about the in the. future about this time God thank God we. didn't live in a time where they were. [ __ ] the whole country was at War of. the stupidest [ __ ] and controlled by. this media that was completely. controlled by corporations and everybody. was being gas lit and people willingly. gaslit themselves I've always I've. always felt the one um you know if you. could try to guess like like just say if. we survive and things improve morally. like what we would look back on and be.

like holy [ __ ] they and the two to me. were always uh was always war and uh. prison and especially like nonviolent. you know like prisoners like but even. violent prisoners you'd almost think. like well they didn't figure anything. else out like they didn't figure. anything else out other than but the. idea of like putting. nonviolent like victimless criminals in. a [ __ ] cage like human beings you. just throw them in a c it's slavy dude. like not just that but you profit off of.

it yeah so you have private prisons that. are actually a corporation that Lobby to. make sure that certain laws stay on the. books so that you could keep your prison. stocked with live people that are. essentially batteries that generate. money for you and and just the fact that. that's still going on while we have all. of these technological advancements and. you know like if you go you know you go. down to like St Judes or something like. that and they're like dude they have all. of this technology because all of these. brilliant people are here to save babies.

lives you know what I mean like that's. going on and then also there's war still. like we haven't figured out a different. way like everybody doesn't just agree. like listen obviously to just go on Mass. Slaughter campaigns and have nothing but. destruction is in nobody's interest so. here's how we're going to solve these. conflicts like it's just it does seem. that like if if human beings survive for. another hundred years and and we you. know are at a higher moral level we. would look back at that the way we look. back at you know witch hunts or or like.

slavery or something like that and be. like that's insane that people were so. evil you know that they would like they. could do s such evil stuff and they we. could do such evil stuff in the age of. information yeah yeah yeah like very. hard and maybe maybe we are like moving. in that Direction where you know it does. seem for sure I think that the fact that. the the war in Gaza has had more um. images come out of it than any other.

conflict that's a huge part of the. reason why there's so much prot of. Technology that's everywhere everyone. has a cell phone very hard very hard I. think me and you might have talked about. that last time I was on right but it's. like even the war in Iraq which is not. ancient history you know it was it was. still going on I mean technically we. still got troops there now but like the. video footage that would come out would. be like you know almost look like a. firework like kind of exploding which is. that's easy to see and root for you know. what I mean like yeah good gu is kicking. ass but when you're seeing a baby being.

pulled out of rubble who is just. suffocated to death oh that's tough dud. tents on fire they were hit by missiles. that's really really tough dude it's. really tough to find a way y there's. still people out there who will find a. way to try to justify it but it's tough. It's it's much tough well that's sort of. the Divide today the Divide today is. objective reality versus what have you. been saying there's objective reality.

versus you have a narrative The. Narrative is Israel has to defeat Hamas. Hamas is using human shoulders uh human. Shields rather that's the narrative the. objective reality is blown apart. children and not just one like tens of. thousands of innocent people dead I was. just uh I was just watching this um this. interview I'm blanking on the doctor's. name but it was Dave damp uh was. interviewing him who's by the way. phenomenal one of the best reporters in. the in the country um the camp Dave de c.

m p Dave is his Twitter handle he's. phenomenal I'll follow right now how. about he's great dude he's great he's. one of uh he's he's over at uh. antiwar.com he's what like Scott. Horton's guy by the way my guy Scott. Horton just uh just gave you and Jamie a. copy of the book unprovoked is uh is be. out I think in the next week or so um. I'm sorry provoked I didn't mean to say. unprovoked it's provoked book.com the. best book written on the uh the history. of the Ukraine Russia conflict and how.

America just blew it at every single. opportunity anyway so he so Dave D Camp. was interviewing this guy uh who's a. doctor he's an American who went over to. Gaza who's a doctor and he had been. there was a big piece in the New York. Times written about this where he said. that every day that he was there every. single day they'd see they'd treat. toddlers with bullets to the head that. they were just constantly seeing this. and then he says that he also talked to. a whole bunch of other cuz so his.

working theory on this was but when he. first started seeing this so he's in. this one area in Gaza and he was. embedded there for a few months working. at a hospital and he figured there was. like some lone sadistic sniper out there. you know what I mean like these things. happen in war but then he started. talking to doctors from all other points. of Gaza who were there there at all. different times who all said the same. thing that they're getting toddlers with. bullet and then when the New York Times. published this they uh a bunch of people. who are defending Israel started being. like this isn't true blah blah blah the.

Israeli most moral fighting force in the. world so he published the. x-rays he's like okay you know I'm a. doctor I have the x-rays right here he. published them it's just 100% is. happening and like it's just so what is. happening I mean Israel's been on Mass. Slaughter campaign of a captive people. for over a year now you know and they're. shooting babies evidently I mean there. there's a Doctor Who's he's an American. he's claiming it happened and he has.

x-rays so yeah it seems like that's. what's going on there and I mean look I. it's just it's obviously just so. horrific man the whole thing is so it's. it's really amazing to me the way to. watch the way people will rationalize. and justify what Israel is doing it. takes so much mental gymnastics and it's. always got to like rely on you know it. just it lets you know it's like oh so I. get it you see it's like oh how human. beings through all of human history have.

had slavery and and genocides and ethnic. cleansing campaigns and at every step. there's someone there who's willing to. justify it and explain why we have to do. this because this is the only way and. really we're acting in defense that's. what they all claim that's what the. Nazis claimed it's what they all claim. they're really acting in defense Jesus. Christ but again we're going to look. back on this time the way people look. back on concentration camps the way. people look back on the mongle campaign. the way people look back on Inquisition.

we're going to go how how did they do. this how how were you allowed to just. like and it's it's amazing the way. people can compartmentalize it too you. know what I mean like it could just be. like hey you there's somebody who could. be a totally loving dad and a good. husband and all like that but then can. go to war and commit like unspeakable. on other people it's just like they put. that over here you know it's very hard. to to think about that or understand it. but unless you talked to someone who's. done it and.

it's this is one of the most important. things the messages that I want to get. to Trump and one of the things that um. I'm excited that Bobby Kennedy is. interested in this as well is. psychedelic therapy for veterans I think. if there's a way to understand the. benefits of psychedelic therapy for. everybody the real pathway is through. Veterans who I think are the most. needing of it the most deserving of it. the most the the most neglected in terms.

of the the just the horrors that they. experience and having to carry this. around their mind and that there's a way. that many people have experienced relief. and it's not available to them and it's. not something that's dangerous it's not. something that's addictive you literally. can't you can't even eat enough. psilocybin to kill yourself it's not oh. yeah can't do would able to consum so. why and it's and it's um been. demonstrated to really help at least a. lot here's what's most important all of. it became illegal in the sweeping.

psychedelics Act of 1970 that was. designed by the Nixon Administration so. that they could demonize anti-war. protesters so they could they could. arrest anti-war protesters civil rights. protesters the Black Panthers they made. all that stuff illegal because all these. counterculture people were all using. that to completely change the. programming that they received in. society think about the irony of that. like the deep deep irony that they made. this stuff illegal because they thought.

if it was out there they wouldn't be. able to get their Wars so they make it. illegal and they get their Wars and then. it turns out that this is the thing that. helps the people that are traumatized. coming back from war but you can't have. it because it's illegal well it's the. clearest shift in culture is that iron. something like that it is irony it is. irony because it's the pathway to help. for a lot of these guys that come back. you ask them to do unspeakable things in. modern society that are against the law. and you force them to do it you go force. them to go kill people they see their. friends killed and then they come back.

here and there's no tools when there are. tools so but they have to go to Mexico. to utilize these tools they have to go. to Costa Rica and the Amazon they have. to go to all these different places. because it's illegal in the very place. that sent them over there to the very. place that tells them it's legal for you. to go kill people that you've never met. but it's not legal for you to take. psilocybin that might help you get over. the fact that you kill people yeah it's. I know my uh um my buddy uh Michael. Heist who uh he just started a media. company called a dissident media he's. been big on this this is like he's like.

an activist who's been working on like. the decriminalization of uh Solis iin. for for years and that's one of the. major reasons because it helps these. soldiers so much we need to be kinder. all of us to each other we need to at. this moment in time especially and i'. I've seen a lot of people saying we have. to just accept the results which I think. is wonderful we do have to accept the. results but also we have to remember. that we are one team this is Team USA. and there's plenty of room for everybody. we all want the same things we all want.

to be healthy want we want to protect. our loved ones we want to be safe and we. want to prosper everybody wants the same. thing you want to be able to do what you. want you want to be able to have a happy. life and a healthy life this is the one. shot that we get at this experience we. can all do this together we can all do. this and one of the ways that people can. come to these conclusions and realize. that we're all connected is through. psychedelics I'm not saying that they're. a perfect pathway I'm not saying that. it's good for everybody I think it's. dangerous for some people particularly. people that have a hard time with. regular reality if regular reality is.

slippery for you if you have psychiatric. conditions maybe that's not the thing. for you but for most of us it would. benefit us and we should have been. exploring this and it was stopped 54. [ __ ] years ago by a corrupt. government that wanted to squash. anti-war protests that car that I showed. you what I was explaining to you such a. cool car that car exists because of. drugs the ones afterwards suck yeah the. reason why the ones afterwards suck is.

that's a 1969 Nova when you get into the. 1970s cars turned to dog [ __ ] it's. exactly after they cut off the. psychedelics no one's making a good car. on cocaine you need the psychedelics to. make a cool car yeah ex all the designs. they all turn to [ __ ] the classic cars. are cars from the' 60s and the 70s and. the early that's what people want nobody. wants 80s cars yeah they don't want them. they're worth nothing like nobody gives. a [ __ ] about them you 1969 Corvette you. look at you're like whoa look at that.

thing because their designers were doing. drugs man they were wild people were. doing they were. artists the music look at the music. between the 1960s and then going into. the 1980s like what the [ __ ] happened y. we had hendris and the doors and The. Beetles we had this wild experimental. yeah and if you've ever done. psychedelics you listen to that music. and you're like oh I know what inspired. this this is pretty easy to tell the. entire Grateful Dead catalog it's all. psychedelically inspired and you almost. have to be on psychedelics to appreciate.

them that all was squashed by this. desire to stop people from protesting in. a horrible unjust War yeah and look man. I mean that I think that's a great. message to get to Trump like let these. guys like they were they were like the. bravest amongst us who got totally. tricked and bribed and propagandized. into going to these wars and then they. come back and they're blowing their. brains out by the tens of thousands and. there's something that might help that.

is very low risk of of almost no risk of. like actually hurting and it really. might help no risk of addiction even. better than that man would just be keep. us out of these wars us out just not. fight him man let's just and look I will. say this this is one of the things that. I'm really optimistic about is that of. that team that we were talking about. earlier that Donald Trump's got around. him you know all those people like Elon. Musk and and uh V ramaswami and JD Vance. and and uh Tucker Carlson and and all.

these guy David. Sachs David saak is probably the best. they're so good on Ukraine every one of. them like they're all just like yeah no. this makes no sense this is such a. clear-cut situation where you could. easily make a deal Vladimir Putin and I. know I've talked about this on P shows. and anybody go listen to those and go. read Scott Horton's amazing book. provoked but just to just very quickly. it is all but accepted at this point. nobody's even debate when I first uh.

came on the first podcast that we talked. about Ukraine where a few years ago now. when I said oh there was a peace deal. like that was agreed to in principle by. Ukraine and Russia and then Boris. Johnson came in to on behalf of the US. to make sure they didn't negotiate a. peace and kept the war going there were. a bunch of people who were like oh. that's not true and blah blah blah and. there's and now it's just been totally. like like that 100% I was right about. that they had a peace deal worked out. and then since then the um the guy whose.

name I always butcher but it's Norwegian. so I don't know how to stalberger the. head of NATO uh he came out and said and. he was bragging but he goes you know. Vladimir Putin before he invaded Ukraine. told us that if we just put it in. writing that we would not bring Ukraine. into NATO. that he wouldn't invade and we told him. no cuz we won't be bullied by you so. he's like bragging about how they had an. opportunity all they had to do was say. we will not bring your biggest neighbor.

into our military Alliance which is very. clearly against you the most reasonable. demand now I'm not saying it's. reasonable that he invaded that's not. reasonable but it is a totally. reasonable demand if the US was to say. no Mexico can't be a part of China's. military Alliance you know like super. reasonable so he's got so many great. people around him on that. but I don't it's not exactly the same. with the Israel Gaza War where he it. seems like a lot of the people around.

him are not so great on that some of. them are some of them are really good on. it but I'm really hoping organiz a. podcast with you me and. him now you're speaking my language. let's go Dave let's do it let's go I was. and listen i' I've been I voted for him. I've been supporting him and stuff yeah. but uh you know I think um I would love. to do that but I just whether it's me or. not I just hope that he gets the message. through somehow that and I know it's a. complicated thing to to navigate because. Israel has a lot of influence on our.

government and they've got and he's got. people like uh V ramaswami and tuer. Carlson who really are. non-interventionists and don't want to. see American taxpayer dollars being used. to fund Wars around the world no matter. who it's for you know like it's like hey. we're broke we got our own problems here. and we can't afford to do this but then. he also has um Mariam adid who cut him. $100 million and uh is probably going to. give another hundred or $200 million to. congressional candidates in the next.

midterm election and all of this and her. she is singularly focused on one issue. and that issue is that we always. unconditionally and unwaveringly support. Israel no matter what they're doing. we're going to set up that conversation. let's do it bro we're going to set that. up Dave Smith you're a [ __ ] a national. Trevor treasure you you really are. you're a National Treasure you're you're. so important and the fact that you can. talk about these things you have such. great recall but you're also funny it's. so important you know I'm so happy.

you're out there well thank you and that. means a lot to me particularly just. because it's coming from you dude and. I'm like dude I've been so goddamn. impressed with you since well before I. ever knew you and I'll tell you after. the last couple weeks dude I'm like I I. just can't even believe it I can't even. believe it's real dude but thank you. thank you for having me again my. pleasure and anytime we'll do it again. thanks we wrap it up all right bye. everybody. [Applause]. [Music].