Joe Rogan Experience #2216 - Luke Bryan

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. TRAIN BY DAY, JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY. NIGHT. ALL DAY. HEY, what's up, Luke? Good. This has been Thank This has been. a long time in the making. Well, I need to thank you for taking. care of my family. when they came to your show. I hope they had a great time. They had a [ __ ] fantastic time. But, it was also my daughter was like freaked. out cuz she was going to the show. She. didn't know she was going to get to get.

to meet you. And her friend didn't know. they were going to get to meet you. either. So, we we were able to keep that a. a keep that a good little good little. good little secret to them. Yeah, it was cool. They had the best. time. They They came back beeping. So, thank you. Well, Vegas, you know, that was wrapping. up Vegas. So, yeah, we. That was the That was a a fun 2 years of. of residency there. Did you do years there? I did Yeah, I did 2 years 26 shows per. year. Dude, man, like.

Vegas will take a little piece of your. soul. Well, here. tiny piece every day. about it is. like all of that get to Vegas and like, you know, you run to the craps table or. blackjack table your whole life getting. to Vegas. Dude, I got all that. I could. I'm like, I get to Vegas. I'm like, man, let's just sit in the room, watch. little sports, and I got got the.

gambling out of the system. Well, that's good. Did you used to Did. you used to gamble a lot? You know, I've always been I've never. been a sports gambler. Ne- My dad My. Uh but, my dad raised me to kind of be. a poker player kind of kid. He was a. like a. I mean, I used to joke if my dad didn't. play poker, we didn't never had Santa. Claus. You know, he I mean, he was I. mean, he was. just a crazy little poker player and.

like a little pool hustler and then uh. and then um. Oh, so he was all in. Well, so one of my dad's fa- one of my. dad's famous quotes is um. So, we we we he flies me out to Vegas. when I'm 21 or whatever and man, I had. like we were in college and I had took. like three three or 400 bucks with me, you know, just broke as [ __ ]. And uh. 2 hours into the trip, lose my money and. you know, this was like well, where we.

were still had truck phones, you know, I'm not even sure we were like toting. No, we certainly didn't have like the. Motorola razor where he could just. call me. So, he just goes looking for him and he. calls my hotel room and I'm he's like, "Boy, what you doing?" He's real George. real Southern Georgia. I said, "I don't lost all my damn money. and hell hell with this place." He goes, "Well, you ain't going to win it back in. the goddamn room.". So, I mean, once you have that.

That mindset? That mindset in gambling, certainly. I. mean, when that's your dad going. And so, that's been a famous saying with. my buddies you know, when they when. they're down and out down two or three. grand and they're pouting over at the. bar, you know, you're not going to win it back at the. goddamn bar. So, but I did I went through phases where, you know, I I never really got. financially behind when I didn't have. money. I would just I I controlled it.

pretty well and I I did my 2 years out. there. I never really. uh had any big beats or anything like. that, but I do love to just man, I love. to just sit there, have a drink, have a. cigar and watch dice and cards cuz. you're just not you're just sitting. there and your mind's checked out. Right. It's like no different than. you know, going to the driving range and. hitting golf balls or sitting on the. bank fishing or sitting in a deer stand. So. Right. It's been But I got out of there. I got. all my gambling.

at least for now out of my system. But. it was great to meet your kids there and. I really appreciate it. They they really. enjoyed it. And like I said, they were. just on they were blown away meeting. you. They were. Well, it was a fun show because. um we got to really do a lot of bells. and whistles out there that aren't. available on normal shows. when you're you know. um out touring and stuff because you're. having to take down stuff and be real. mobile out there. We put put a lot of. stuff in the room and.

Well, that's nice that the That's one. good thing about the residency. You. know, you're going back to the same spot. over and over and over again. And we had our routine. I mean, I have. my my room and you know, about 6:30 I'd. hop in the shower, run down there and. get on stage about 8:30 and knock it out. and 10:30 uh. somewhere to crap stable. I'm lucky I don't gamble. I don't do it. got into sports? Nope. Nope. I mean, I used to bet on. fights. Back in the early days of the. UFC I used to bet on fights and they one. day they made it illegal, but I already.

stopped doing it cuz I was like, this is. probably not a good thing for me to be. betting on things I'm commentating on. cuz I can't affect the outcome. Right. But like sometimes I still quite close. I also sometimes know some [ __ ]. You know, there's been a bunch of times. So one of my business partners I I would. just I would tell him to what to bet on. And we were like 84% at one time. It was. crazy. Wow. Yeah. Wow. For like six or seven fights in a row. six or seven fight cards in a row we. were at about 84% cuz every now and then.

they would have these guys who were. coming in from Japan or from Russia and. the the odds makers didn't know who. these guys were. And I was like, oh. Jesus Christ, bet the house. you already. Oh yeah, I knew those guys. studying them for Yeah, you had. years. So I knew I knew everything about. these guys. I'm like, Jesus Christ, bet. the [ __ ] house.". Layup. Yeah, there was a few. Like, when. Anderson Silva came to the UFC, I was. like, "Bet the house. Bet the house on. the Brazilian. Whatever you got, I go. throw it all at this guy. You can't. [ __ ] lose." Cuz when he came into the.

UFC, he was like in his prime. And I got. to see him evolve in Japan and then. later on in England. And so, when he. when he came in the UFC, I think he was. a favorite over this guy Chris Leben, who's a really tough guy, but I'm like, "Whatever the Whatever the odds are, [ __ ] throw it all at that guy.". I bet you all. Were you Were you betting. with him, too, at that time? I'd already stopped. I was like, "I. could get in trouble." I don't know. don't any get get any trouble now, either. Don't lose the gig. Well, now now the UFC made a law, and it. was real recent, like 2 years ago. Up.

until like 2 years ago, all staff, anyone could bet. Now, no one can bet. Really? Yeah, cuz there was a scandal. One of. the trainers apparently was involved. allegedly was involved with knew about. an injury, and then it turned out. there's probably some other bets that. are a little shady that perhaps. allegedly people were involved with, so. they're like, "Okay, we got to put a. stop to this." Which is too bad, cuz it was [ __ ] It's nice to know If. I was unscrupulous,

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no sports betting. Through college, I. mean, my I Through college, I'd walk in. and my buddies, back then, they spliced. seven to eight TVs together and they're. they got all their they got all their. notes and and I'm like. And I'm like, "Dude, no wonder you're. [ __ ] you got all these and you're. you're you're you're about to get. shipped out of college." But I I. survived all that and uh me and a buddy. we started picking two games a week.

And we would load up. And this was. this was like um. six years. five years ago. So, I would load up like. 20 grand a game. Ooh. And but I I was strict and I and I I had. my deal. And. yeah, it just, uh, we like bet, I mean, just take Alabama and the points in the. first half. You do that. most of the year, I mean, it was 80%.

So, we did well and then my buddy moved. away from me and we quit talking about. it. And I just then I went rogue for like. two years. I was betting like Utah State. at it, you know, the West Coast game. midnight just throwing bets in and I was. like, man, I'm out. So, I stopped. But, uh, Did you see Uncut Gems? Yes. Dude, that movie tripped. That movie tripped me out. I think it tripped everybody out there.

What a great movie. Especially if you dipped your toe into. that world of like. Chasing that high. and I've got buddies that do parlays and. like I'm not even sure I even understand. the inner workings of parlays now. I. still, I mean, and teasers and all that. and. and you know, I'm I'm so removed from. that level of sport or like let, you. know, so-and-so's doing four late going to get. four layups at the half and. man, that that'll that's that's opening.

up Pandora's Box there. So, It is and you got to think there's. people that are involved. Like there's. been scandals where referees were. involved, where referees were making. calls they shouldn't have made, maybe. calling fouls they shouldn't have called. and people getting paid. There's so much. money being thrown around and you know, the average referee, what do they make, you know? Hey, dude, so I saw you at the I'm a. giant Georgia fan. And I saw you, obviously, on the. sideline, uh, on Saturday and just, man, some of those calls.

It started getting weird. We actually left after the. first quarter went to see Eminem. So we. had an epic day. We saw the first. quarter of UT Georgia and then jetted. and went to Eminem at the racetrack. At the Formula 1? Yeah, Eminem played in front of like. 150,000 people. It was [ __ ] wild. what a weekend for Austin, too. I mean. cuz I had buddies. I had buddies that were like. "Why are you not coming?" And I'm like, "Man, I've had to be me all year and.

it's like the weather's chilly in. Nashville. My boys want to go deer. hunting. I'm going to take them deer. hunting, sit on my back patio and scream. at the TV and. but yeah, it got a little dicey there on. the back. I I was like oh, it was weird. Yeah, well, just the energy. There's so. much so much anticipation for a game. like that. And you can't replicate it. You can't. replicate it in any other in any other. I guess those big.

um global. uh Brazil versus. Argentina or whatever or. We had some friends from England who had. never been to an American football game. before. Well, what was their take on it? blown away. They're like, "Oh my. goodness. Oh my goodness. This is madness.". Like this is Texas football. It's so fun, though. They get serious here. It's crazy. shoot the cannon. Boom. Did you shoot it through the Georgia. shirt? That one? Yeah. Oh gosh. Maybe I gave them bad luck.

my heart. Maybe it was bad luck cuz they lost. Maybe it was Maybe it's some [ __ ]. rude thing to do. Oh. We uh. yeah, man. It was uh it was a it was a. good win for Georgia. And like I said, both those programs are just so. Incredible. incredible. So. It's when you watching it behind the. scenes, you know, watching how much. organization there is and it's it's. incredibly complex. through the years Kirby and I um. have gotten to be. pretty good buddies. You Kirby can't be. buddies with anybody because.

uh. that job requires I've never seen a. or requirement of a job more than being. a college. It's probably like being a president. It's it is and and and so I don't text. Kirby during the season really. I know. he and man just watching what those guys. go through trying to manage these big. programs like that. I mean and when. they're not coaching. I mean dude, they. are politicking. Yeah.

I mean they got to go to the steak. supper for this. Mhm. for this touchdown club here. You know, so man it is a it's a wild ride what. those dudes go through. you think about gambling with calls like. bad calls, that has got to be imagine. all your money's on the line and you see. some horrendous call and you [ __ ]. See, I'm out of that and I didn't really. get into that. heavily even when I was betting regular. games. But man, it's it's it's free to man, I.

just watch the games with freedom and I. don't I don't get in, you know. I'm good friends with Dana White and. Dana's a he's a real degenerate. Like a hard. how big That's the best way to describe. Oh, he'll describe it that way. Yeah, like. they most like your big horse racing. guys, they all their adjective of. themselves is I'm a degenerate. That's. the first thing they say. and I Jamie and I went to visit we went. with Shane Gillis and a bunch of other. guys who went to visit Dana while he's. gambling. When we got there, he was down.

$600,000. And I was like, what is happening here? say he learned how to play back crap. because you can bet more. Like you can. you can bet like 500 K or something or. crazy like that. That's so crazy. I could I I was getting. anxiety just sitting there watching. And. so then Taylor Twan came over and Dana. and Taylor have this deal where Dana. teaches Taylor what to gamble and how to. do it. They're down $120,000 in what? 5. minutes? 5 minutes. 5 minutes they're.

down 120 grand. And I'm just sitting. there going, what the [ __ ] man? Look, Dana's rich as [ __ ]. Obviously. I know Taylor is wealthy. But there's. like a level where you could lose. $125,000 is $125,000. Well, yeah. I mean, I've learned kind of. like. if you're betting a thousand a hand, you. can get down 50. Yeah. Like in quick. But when you transition. to that. 30, 40, 50 thousand a hand, you'll be.

down a million or a million or two. And. And I I say cuz I've watched some other. buddies that bet on that level. I'm talking about like 15 hand swing is. a $800,000 swing. And I'm like. But that's the scary part about gambling. when you start when you don't have much. money and you grow into some money. But. your your level of what you want to. press your. your anxiety level and your endorphins. and all that, it grows with your. your wealth. And then next thing you.

know, you're. Well, that's the only way they get their. fix, too. They can't play $20 a hand. Yeah, right. That goes away. It's like. Right. Well, it's like the whole, you. know, it's There's a lot in society that. you know, I think we're preyed upon with. those with that thought process, gambling and and a lot of. dopamine hits. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then And. then once one level of the dopamine. levels out, then. you go to the next one. Yeah, it's it's hard to watch. Like. forget about doing it. It's hard to.

watch. Like I don't I don't get it. I'm. glad I don't do it. say that that I've always have fun with. it. I mean, I I've always had fun. gambling. And And a lot of times I take. my band after we get off stage and we'd. have one band night and I'd like set. them all up with some chips and. and I've gotten at a craps table where I. can kind of manage everybody's bets and. I'm like, don't do that. Now, wait, wait. And it's kind of like the. uh you know, steer steering the. mothership and we had some great nights,

you know, just laughing and cutting up and you. know, cheering, you know, you know, like. I said, one guy walk walks up and. everybody rubs his head for good you. know, it's just it's just if you. camaraderie, you know, at the craps. table. I I I gambled so much at the. craps table my last night. They let my craps team that dealt me all. the craps come on stage and WE. CELEBRATED TOGETHER. I'M OUT THERE LIKE I'M PLAYING AND I.

look at my you know, cuz they work in. teams, you know, they all and my team. comes out on stage and dude, I was. roaring laughing. I'm like, yeah, so. That's hilarious. Look, I know people have a problem with. gambling. I think it should be legal, but it can get away from you. Yeah, well, But that's like a lot of things in this. world. Alcohol, there's a lot of things. that can get away from you. It doesn't mean it should be illegal. Right, well, Lord. It's just weird that it's only legal in. a few states.

I think that's expanding now and then I. remember when online gambling was. illegal. Oh, yeah, and then. It wasn't that long ago. The early days. of the UFC, online gambling was illegal. And then my you know, and cuz we're. obviously Southeastern. Tennessee Bible Belt and I I don't know, but there's there's certain states. I. guess Tennessee is a legal gambling. state cuz. or maybe Georgia. I can't tell. I have. to I have to talk to my nephews, all of. his buddies and see if they're on the. little apps, but.

man, they'll go sign their buddies up to. get the $200 free I mean, they got all. kind of little racket. Yeah, well, and then also people would. go to Indian reservations. That was the. big thing. Right. And you got to Also crazy. Like. gambling's illegal. red. you got to pay the Indian reservation. tax. You know, you got to pay your 50. cent to do the dollar bet. Yeah. Do that math. Yeah, and you only have to be like a. small percentage Native American to get. a piece of that. So, there's a lot a lot of millionaires.

just hanging around that casino, just. enjoying it. But, if you got a place. like in Connecticut, like. Oh, Mohegan and all that. They're great places. know, typically on my way kind of. the Mohegan, I'd go play there a couple. years. I did one night I did three. nights there, and dude, I'm like getting. off stage, just sitting there gambling, and you know, I'm like, "Am I coming out. ahead on this gig or what?" But, I think. I got out of there making a little. money. Yeah. It's It's weird though that you. could do that legally. Like, how It's.

Well, then even like in Tennessee and. Tunica back in the day, you just put a. barge on the Mississippi River, and you. can gamble. It's like, well, what is that all about? I mean, Right. That's that show Ozark. Right. Yeah, yeah. Well, totally the. same premise, you know. It's like, put a. barge on the river, and uh. now let's take all these people's money. Yeah. My buddy Johnny used to He was a. pool hustler. Used to call people. riverboat gamblers. When guys would just. go off, and he you know a guy was a. gambling addict, you just trick him into. a game. He's like, "That guy's a.

riverboat gambler.". Or Yeah, that's the two analogies. Degenerate or riverboat gambler. Yeah. Be Be Be careful of all of them. So, It's just always been funny to me that. like Native American reservations are. essentially a country inside the. country, and they could do whatever the. [ __ ] they want. Like, I was just reading. about this Colorado wolf deal, you know, where they've. relocated wolves to Colorado, and the. Native American reservation let them. know, "The moment those wolves get onto. our land, we're flying over in. helicopters and gunning them down.".

I was I I I elk hunt every year in. Colorado, and and is that where you've. done. I've done Colorado most of the years. I. go to Utah. Yeah. Well, first of all, Cam Haines and. I, you know, we we've got a connection. with Cam and. Yeah. just love that guy. But yeah, we So, when I saw Colorado do that, I was like, it's just like, what are what are we. doing, guys? Well, whenever you have biology that's. getting voted on by people who don't. understand it, it should be decided by. wildlife biologists. That's it. It's the.

only people that should decide whether. or not things like that happen. Well, we can really dive into this and let's. do it. My thing is. we are so governed in the world of. wildlife biology through the states and. stuff. They're not going to let. animals They're not going to let humans. ruin animal populations. I don't think. anymore. If anything's going to happen, they're. going to mess it up and let animal. populations.

get too big. Right. I was I was and I don't know if I I. don't know who to name or whatever, but. I was with some guys with Wyoming. and you know, we're talking about. grizzly bears. Mhm. And I said, "Uh man, you know, cuz they they brought up, you know, grizzly bear problems and I said, "Well, what what what is the deal?" And they. said, "Well, there's 1,500 or 1,400. grizzly bears in Wyoming. There needs to.

be 500 to 600. And. and five of the 1,500. are only hunting humans. Like, have totally. have totally. But there's not that many human deaths. Well, you bet in Yellowstone, you If you. pay attention, there's about two or. three that get that get. Right. But those 500 grizzly bears that. are just hunting humans. Five. Five. Not 500. five grizzly bears. Right. There's like five grizzly Sorry,

I'm This probably won't be the first. time I. am not totally clear with you, but yeah, so there's there's fif- four to 1,400 to. 1,500, there needs to be 500 to 600. grizzlies, and but of the. of those five to six oh of the all of. them, five of them are have like, "Oh, we don't we don't care about salmon. anymore. We want to sit by this trail. and pick off this hiker.". Jeez, Christ. that is a high-up biologist in Wyoming.

telling me that, and I'm like, "Well, why won't they let y'all go in there, let some hunters" Think about the the. you can do the math chart do a $30,000. grizzly bear tag. Mhm. Do a $20,000 one. They'll go for that. Yeah. For sure. Um, go in and let it. manage it right, but there's one federal. judge that's got it all shut down. One. judge. That's so crazy. My friend went on moose. hunting, said he saw no moose, and he. saw 12 grizzlies in Wyoming. I went on a bear hunt in Alberta,

and there's so many grizzlies now, you. can't even go. It was through Cam's people. John and Jen. Yeah, they've I saw them recently, and. they've had to move like. areas. Yeah, they have abandoned areas. cuz they're overrun with grizzlies. They. sent me some trail cam pics, they're. terrifying. Like little school buses. They look like school buses. Like the. size of these [ __ ] grizzlies. you Did you Was it you that was talking. about we were try They were trying to. determine a male grizzly versus a male. gorilla, and who would win? Did we ever.

I think I'm on team grizzly. Me, too. Cuz they eat things and kill things. every day. Gorillas just they they. fight. They just like they puff their chest. out, and they mostly eat grass. Well, but when you think about 30, 40,000 dollars per grizzly, and then the. the guiding fee, Yeah. and then the taxidermy. Yeah. Think about the taxidermist. And then the Pittman-Robertson people. need to need to understand all the gear, everything, 10% of that goes to wildlife. management. All of it. And then. at the end of that, nobody's going to. let the grizzlies get.

exterminated. Right. It's not It's they're overpopulated now. And then when you look at the population. to how beautiful the elk population is. in Colorado. Yeah. And how amazingly managed it is in. Colorado for public hunters. for a guy like me that can go get a. over-the-counter tag, I think they're. probably going to wipe out. over-the-counter tags for. out-of-staters. They're going to make it a draw system. And then now the wolves get to eat them. and I don't get to bring my elk hunting.

money in. and give it to the. Right. But. Well, the thing is they what they always. say that they're going to get to a. certain level of the population and then. they're going to open it up for. management, but they don't. Wolf management? Yeah, but what happens is people sue. And the wildlife. you know, all the people that are like. that love wolves, they fall they sue. And when they sue, they they stop the. hunt and then it has to go to court, then it has to get decided. And if you. get a radical judge like this judge that. you said that's in Wyoming.

And the these are all. things that people in the know are. telling me. So Lord, I don't I don't. need a judge somewhere in Wyoming like. pulling my phone. No, you're probably right. You're. probably right. Everyone that I know. that hunts there says there are there's. a lot of grizzly bears and it's. concerning cuz you don't see all of. them. If you see a lot of them, there's. a lot more than you don't see cuz most. of them are just not just out in the. open hanging out with you. Most of them. are deep in the wilderness. Well, and and. so I went on a uh. I went on a uh salmon trip up in British.

Columbia. And what you. 99% of your interpretation of a grizzly. is this big old fat chunky thing. Well, so we're flying in on these helicopters. to go. fish the salmon runs that are running up. into the mountains of British Columbia. and it's an amazing trip. Like you fly. over in the helicopter, you look down, you see the huge schools of salmon, you. take your fly rod and you go catch them.

and drink your beer. Well, the. helicopter pilot was like, "Hey man, we've seen some grizzlies. in the area. Just. And you know, at the time we're like, "Man, this is all part of the uh. experience. Yeah, it's like get a get us kind of. going a little bit. Well, we land. and the night before we didn't fish that. day, so we'd flown in and drank some. wine and dude, you know, my eyes are. like fuzzy and. we're fishing and I tell my guy I'm. with, I'm like, "Hey, I'm going to go to. the helicopter and get a a beer or. something." And. and dude, I get there and I pop my beer.

and I'm like, I look down the river and. I'm like, "Fuck, that is a [ __ ] grizzly. coming toward my buddy." And I went, "Jay!". And dude, it was slim. and like a damn it was lean and like a. gray hound. Not I I wouldn't say lean, but it hadn't. it hadn't got all fat on salmon yet. Well, it comes down the bank.

and jumps in and and we ease back to the. helicopter. We look back, here comes. another grizzly. literally. 30 yd from us and I'm like, we get there and I'd left my beer on the. bank and my grizzly sticks his tongue in. my beer. and then he jumps in the river. I run, grab the beer, drink I'm like, "Grizzly spit!" Anyway, the helicopter. pilot goes, "You did not drink a beer. I had a sip of it after I had to.

But that's like what kind of. trichinosis. wild [ __ ] are you going to get from. that? Some berry infection or whatever, salmon. infection. Moose ass. So, listen dude, we get on the. helicopter and the pilot's like, "Man, they're they're getting too. comfortable." We take off, fly a mile. down the river. I I'd already had my fly rod together. I. never broke it down, so I set it in the. little basket and we land. I take off. about 200 yards, start fishing. And I had I had I had to slide down this.

like 20-ft cut bank where the river had. cut the bank. I look across the river. and here comes a grizzly bear galloping. Oh, boy. on the other side of the river. And I'm like, well, I'd already seen the other two. mature ones and I was like, well, that's. a baby grizzly. That's. I was like, that's cute. Dude, that grizzly hits that bank on the. other side of that river and jumps about. 20 ft in the air and lands in that. river.

It looked like. a a Volkswagen. VW bug hit that river. I take off to the helicopter. All my guys are like, get here, get. here. A mother and two two of the babies. were on my tail. Oh my god. And when I got to the helicopter, dude, ruined my whole trip. I couldn't relax. That's when it gets scary when you're on. the mothers. Oh, they're they're the ones that um. They [ __ ] everybody up. in 2 seconds.

Yeah, they don't play any games. When. they have their cubs with them, they. don't take any chances. Like, I'm going. to incapacitate this dude. Yeah. [ __ ] him. It is uh. So, that was my that was my grizzly. encounter. all these people that get to vote unlike. BC when BC outlawed grizzly bear. hunting. I wish all those people that. experience You should have to experience. what it's actually like there. You. should have to see. You should have to see the population. You see what it's like experiencing. them. These aren't teddy bears. And you.

for you saying you shouldn't be able to. manage the population as wildlife. biologists say it should be managed. You're putting people in danger, especially people that live up there. about it with me, now listen, I grew up. deer hunting my whole life, ducks, dove, quail. And man, I always had a soft spot. for bears. And probably I still It's not. like I got to go shoot bears every year. I mean, whatever. But when you find out. when you hear you are a hunter and there. are. Like when I met John and and Jenny and.

they were like, "Luke, there are so many. that are that need to be managed." I was. like, "Man, that's cool. Let's go Let's. go do a bear hunt." Had a great time and. didn't you know, didn't get all heady. with. killing a bear. I mean, I know guys in. Tennessee in Gatlinburg, Joe. I mean, dude, they are darting black. bears. off second story mo uh Holiday Inn. balconies. They're digging in. I mean, they're digging in candy you.

know, vending machines. Walk And I'm. like, "Dude, it's just a matter of time. somebody's going to walk out their. balcony and these they're going to get. they're going to get got.". Right there. 100%. dart them and move them back into the. Smoky Mountains. And then. You know what happened in New Jersey, right? The governor ran on this policy. of banning the grizzly bear hunt. And he. got in or excuse me, the black bear. hunt. In Jersey. Jer- Jersey has the. most black bears per capita in the. country, which is crazy. I'm going to. send you something because I sent this. to Cam uh last night cuz it's nuts. This.

dude just shot the um state record. So, it's back in. Yes, it's back in immediately. Because they had so many interactions. My mother lives in Mexico Beach, Florida. on the panhandle. over there, too. And they like trash cans turned over. every day. Crazy amounts in in South. Georgia and Florida. Yeah, that's it. So, I have a photo of the bear, Jamie. I'm going to send it to you next to the.

dude who killed it. That's a good one. Okay. Yeah, I'm going to send you this, too. Uh but look at that. Look at the size of. that bear. So, this is in New Jersey. This is New Jersey. This is New Jersey. That's a 770-lb. bear in New Jersey. I never I didn't know they were they. were up there that. They're dense. Dense with bears. I have. a buddy who lives up there. He says he. sees them all the time. down in the. furthest, most southern corner of. Georgia, Bainbridge, Georgia, and all. that, and then Mexico Beach, Florida,

around Lake Seminole. I mean, they're. they're everywhere down there. They're all over the place. You got that. photo of that dude laying next to it? Yeah. Look at that. Look at the size of that. thing. Now, that that article says 800 lbs. That's from Sevr Broadheads. It says 880, but the other article said. 770. It looks. it's big. Whatever the actual size it. is, it's big. Look at that Sevr hole. Good shot, dude. you know, like I said, I'm not the. That's a perfect shot. I I I think there's healthy numbers of.

all of it. And like I said, when I see. you know, when you see. I don't know. Wolves and elks. Well, there's more than healthy numbers. Okay, there you go. 770 Oh, gutted. 770 gutted. Woah. Ah. That's what it is. So, they weighed it. in at 770 lbs gutted. So, they think it. was about 880. Holy [ __ ]. Holy [ __ ]. Yeah, you see they got it in a slide. They had to put it in a. Well,

That's crazy. Man, there's so many of. And for people don't know, people eat. bear. And bear's good. It tastes good. Well, and you know, the sad part about I. think California, you know, the the. whole. um. the whole you know, the gallbladder. deal. I don't know much about that, but. you know, Yeah. there was a black market for black bear. gall bladders. Yeah, it's in some some cultures. It's. They think it's medicine. And you know, So, they were killing black bears just. for their gallbladder? Yeah, and.

But I don't I think that was overblown. I don't think it's going to affect the. population. I'm just guessing. Especially a place like New Jersey. How. are you going to affect that population? They're they're everywhere there. You ever see the the fights they have in. Far Rockaway? What's Far Rockaway? Far Rockaway, New Jersey is like a nice. suburb. It's like a nice. neighborhood. Giant bears. Jamie, pull that video up. Giant bears. Well, did you ever see the guy's front. lawn? Did you ever see the guy that filmed. like the 10-minute grizzly fight?

This might be Oh, yes, I did see that. That was. That was insane. But that's where. grizzlies are supposed to be. This isn't. a [ __ ] neighborhood. And these are. big bears and they're duking it out on. this guy's nice lawn. They go tumbling. down the stairs and they start fighting. in the street and people are watching. And they're probably fighting over trash. cans. Look at them. So, look at the size of these [ __ ]. Imagine like you're watching TV and you. hear. Oh, man.

So, these dudes they duke it out. This. is like Jamie, how long is this video? It's like a 10-minute video. 6-minute. video. So, 6 minutes for 6 minutes these. dudes duke it out. They they pile out. into the street. They're biting each. other and this guy's filming from a car. And you see it as it like trundles down. like go Yeah, pull it down to where. they're in this So, they come tumbling. down the hill, you know, full UFC style, duking it out. Passing by this guy's. this guy's mailbox. Look at them.

It goes on forever. And they're out in the street. It's a. nice neighborhood. And you have huge predators. in front of a Volvo. I MEAN, WHAT THE [ __ ]. AND THIS GUY was trying to ban the hunt. Hey, pal. There's plenty of these bears. You should hunt them. Cuz if you don't. hunt them, they're going to hunt you. Well, they're going to you know, that. that's the thing. I think it's no. different than I mean I grew up in South. Georgia with gators and.

Yeah, same thing. You you get one comfortable with you, man, and it's. Not good. It is not good at all. What's the problem that we're dealing. with here is ballot biology. It's all. people that are very emotional. Most of. them live in cities. Before I ever hunted bear, before I ever. hunted at all, I was like, "Kill a bear? Why What an [ __ ] You have to be an. [ __ ] to kill a bear." And then you. get an. I was same I was kind of the same way. But you probably had more hunting. experience than me. Well, I had whitetail hunting and I. remember, man, you know, being a a.

14-year-old kid shooting a deer and and. having remorse. But then. you need to have that remorse, too, as a. hunter. You need to understand. You're taking a life. Yes, and you need to. And I tell my boys that. My boys have. grown up in it seriously. I'm like, "Hey, man, hold up.". Right. Let's just don't run up to the. run up to it, chuck it in the machine, just just do a little homage. Respect. Yeah. Right. So, go ahead. But that.

Yeah. But the remorse. Go ahead. The. The remorse is important. It's it's a. part of the experience. Like you have. you are now connected to the food that. you're going to eat. And I think that's. what most people don't have. And I think. that's what most people don't have. And. I think I think that's bad for us. I. think all of human existence has been. wrapped around hunting animals and we. hunted them ourselves forever and then. we eventually figured out agriculture. But when we hunted we hunted them. ourselves most of the time that humans. were human and we had this deep.

connection to this animal cuz this. animal was going to sustain our family. And they used it. They took the the the. the skin from it and they made all kinds. of things. They took the tendons. They. made strings for bows. They. And the fur. Yeah, like the fur. I mean, it's what. their clothes were made out of. They ate. all the organs. They ate everything. It. sustained everybody and that was how. people lived. And then when people. stopped living like that, we got a. little confused. I know people that eat. meat. Like my wife was at dinner with.

her friends, and um. the the the they're from England, and. one of the friends said, "Uh where's. your husband?" And she said, "Oh, he's. he's uh elk hunting.". And and the guy made some sort while. he's cutting a steak, made some sort of. like, "Oh, that's atrocious.". "Why does he do that?" And she goes, "Why are you eating meat? You didn't. like you you paid a supermarket hitman. to go kill that [ __ ] steak.". Listen. Like this is so stupid. But when you're. removed from it culturally, and England. is basically removed from it culturally, there's roe deer there, and there's some. stags.

Stag, yeah. But for the most part, England has a. very small hunting population, and I. believe bow hunting is actually outlawed. there. It's outlawed in a lot of places. in Europe. It's outlawed in Scotland. It's outlawed in a lot of places. So. there's a like a deep ignorance as to. what's going on and what it is, and then. they have judgment based on these. cultural norms of like and there's. media depictions. Media depictions of. hunters in movies, they're never the. good guys. They're always pieces of. [ __ ] The hunters are always [ __ ].

they're always drunk, they're always, you know, trying to kidnap women or kill. somebody, right? They're always like. torturing an animal. There's always. something where someone has to come in. and [ __ ] up the hunters cuz hunters are. they're portrayed as bad guys in movies. Yeah, and then. and and listen, you you you know, you. the success rate of. the the the proper ethical things always. line up. That that that you know, you. don't the success rate doesn't always go. like you wanted it to. Right. And but um you know, the fact that.

hunters still. are are working every day just to keep. hunting, and the fact that hunting is. declining. so bad. it took a little uptick during COVID. because during COVID people are like, "Hey, man, this [ __ ] what if there's. no food?" My buddy who lived in. Asheville and uh he sent me a photo in. the middle of the pandemic. He goes, "Dude, he goes, there's no meat." And he. was going down the meat aisle, he's like. filming it. He's like, "There's no. [ __ ] meat here.". One of the best.

things that's just naturally happened at. our house. and my wife is, you know, my wife's. like. typical housewife, plays tennis, great. shape, doesn't, you know, when she she. kind of eats like a bird when she does. eat, but man, she will call me and. she'll go, "Hey, let's have elk night.". And cuz we keep our freezer in my garage. and I've got all my tackle in there. And. she has through the years understood. like, "Hey, I'm going to run out to the.

freezer. We're going to do taco night. I'm going to throw all the elk meat in. the sink and start thawing it." And man, over the last 5 years. we I've woke up and we haven't had we. haven't had, you know, beef cattle and. hamburger. um taco, spaghetti, bolognese. What do. we haven't eaten it in 5 years at my. house. And it just it takes you a minute. to go, "Hey, uh put it in the freezer and then plan. your plan your dinner." You know, we all. get busy with kids and stuff like that,

but I'm so proud of her that she'll call. me and be like "Hey, I'm going out to. the freezer. Do you want me to get these. elk tenderloins?" Cuz. by the time me and my I got three. children that go out there with me now. and two or three of us will get one. I. mean, we got enough meat. Like it's awesome that. best food. It's. So good for you. Man, when you pat out an elk patty. hamburger. like. your hands have nothing on it. Right. Like I mean, you could take beef patty. and just like it's just like.

fat, grease. It's like talking, you know. That's also why it tastes so good. Right, which we got to There's a time. and place for that. But it's pretty cool. that elk gets that. And I I they still have to add a little. bit of pork fat to elk just to keep it. But, um. I give a lot of meat away, and whenever. I do when I get text back, I get. excited. People are like, "Damn, this is. so good." And it makes me feel better. It does make you feel like there's. something about wild game. You get energy from it. Well, yeah. And yeah, and yeah, when you.

can go like we uh. it it my place uh my deer place in. Southern Tennessee. Yeah, man, we. we just we make sure, man, we got I got. a big walk-in cooler there. And if we. if we're if we're not going to take. something in there, I put I've got some. red stag at my place in Tennessee. Uh I. did a high fence down there. And uh so, between stag and whitetail and elk, you. know, we're moving we're moving meat. around and making jerky uh. they roaring on your property? do. That's the craziest sound. I thought the.

elk sound was crazy. Elk sound is. probably the craziest. It's the best elk sound. It's the best. But, the roar of the stag. is It sounds like a lion. I put one on my Instagram story, Jamie. See if you can find it. This dude just. staring at the camera roaring. I bet or I or I hear rather Argentina is. a great place to go. Yeah. they have a lot of them down in. Argentina. We um. It's interesting cuz Tennessee is very. very strict on their whitetail. Here he is. Listen to this guy.

Imagine if you were some dude and it's. like a thousand years ago, and you don't. know what the [ __ ] that is. You run into the woods. So, my 14-year-old. has been going to Colorado with me since. he was five or six. And.

when they're that little, obviously they. can't bow hunt. But, we would get an elk. down. And I'd let the boys hike up with me and. and pack the elk out. And one day we had. another hunter with us going to get an. elk and my two little ones were. following me. And I said, well, we had. an elk bugle. I said, "Hey boys, stay right here." And they're they're. six. six and eight. And we went up the hill and I could keep.

Well, Tate, right before I walked off, he goes, "Dad, are they going to kill us if we sit. here?" Cuz those elk bugle, I mean, you. can feel their bugles in the woods. And. I said, "No, son, Feel them in your chest. went up and tried to call this elk in. and then some elk did actually cross in. front of them. And they're six and eight. just sitting there, these big this big. herd of elk coming by them. We come. back. And I was watching I could see. them sitting down there on this this. tall log that I put them on. But I got. back and they're like,

"Those elk were all I mean, you know, having your boys I mean, that's that's. what I live for and to to keep the, you. know, and I just wish we could create a. narrative where. getting your children doing that will. will. I mean, I don't know. Well, hunting has a very difficult. entry. It's very difficult if you're a. person who's like listening to this like. I've I've never hunted before, but I'd. like to learn how to do it. Good luck. It's very hard to do. Very very hard. It's very hard to find. someone who's going to teach you, who.

has the patience to show you what to do. If you've never shot a rifle before, it's very hard to understand like what. is the difference between a .300 Win Mag. and a 7 mm what is this and that? That that's the that is the tricky part. really with all outdoors. And if you. could if you could bridge the gap. between. um all parts of urban life and allow. urban life to to find a place to go. But. the. when we went through a phase in outdoors.

where landowners were like, "If you hunt. my land and you twist your ankle and. break your leg, you're going to sue me, so no, you're not allowed to come hunt. my land." So, all the deer will get overpopulated, eat. all my crops. And then so I think now states, I think. Tennessee has put a law in to where. some of those getting sued I. Well, what I'm what I'm saying is that. feeds people's. inability to go find somewhere to hunt,

too. I mean, you're so many people don't. have a 50-acre farm. They can't afford. it, but they want to go hunt. And then I. just hope the hunting community and even. the the whole outdoor community can make. it more accessible and landowners. I. mean, I had this little lady that that. um. um I wanted to turkey hunt her she had. 60 acres that bordered like a 300-acre. tract of mine and I was like, "Ma'am, when when I'm out hunting and. some of my turkeys or our turkeys may. cross onto your property, do you mind if.

I go" and she and her house is a mile. away from or it's 50 acres, it's. probably 400 yards. She thought my. shotgun was going to shoot through her. house and kill her. And I had to spend 45 minutes and she. grew up in Tennessee in the country and. she doesn't understand that a shotgun is. not, you know, And so man, the education of it all just. the bridge in the knowledge of it. gradually gets worse and worse, but the.

need for it gets greater and greater. gets greater and greater. And I tell my. children all the time. I'm like, "Boys, there is no drug in the world and I'm. not a you know, I. I'm pretty straight guy. Never done done. much of that, but I said, "I got a lot. of crazy buddies that have and when a. big elk's walking in or a big white tail. or you hook a big fish, there's that the. the adrenaline from that no drug will. replace it. And. Nothing's like it. I've done some wild.

[ __ ] in my time. I I I've seen the documentation of the. wild stuff. So. I've done some wild [ __ ] I'm going to. I'm going to send you a video, Jamie, of. something that happened last week. So. this this is the best example of that. This is the best example of that. We had. this elk and he was out at about 50. yards. We had snuck in snuck in on him. He was over the ridge at 50 yards. We. could see the tips of his antlers moving. around. I had my sight set at 50 yards. And as my friend was calling him, my.

friend was at a tree that was about 20. yards from me. He came right into our. lap. So it was one of those things where. I had a range at 50. 50 and then. And then I see him coming in. He's. coming in. I dial him again. I range him. again at 40. I dial him in. I'm like, oh. [ __ ] he's coming into our lap. He just. kept coming in. Watch this video. Is. this. Do you not have it yet? God damn. Modern technology. It didn't make it. through? Oh, it's still going. Hold on. I'm still compressing it to send it. through iMessage. Oh, is that what it is? Maybe.

Okay, let me. It said it went through. Did it go. through? Just got it. Okay. Bust out those cigars. You want a little heavier or a mild? Whatever you have. Here it goes. Check. this out. Oh. Listen to this. Listen to this when he. comes over the hill and gets angry. Like when I heard that I was like, uh-oh, here he comes. So right now he's about 50 yards. What's your heart doing right now? Right now I'm pretty calm cuz he's at 50. yards. Right.

But now I'm realizing he's not going to. stop. So I range him again. Now he's at. 40. Oh my god. for a second. He's staring right at me. I have to stop. Oh yeah, so you're off to the right. to the right and I'm pressed up against. the tree. Full camo, hiding. in plain sight. So now he's moving out. So now I'm like, oh [ __ ] I'm moving my. sight to 20. So now I move my sight to. 20. And I'm trying to figure out a time to. draw. So right here I draw, that's when he. turns. Oh. He needs He sees a movement. This is another one bugling.

Perfect. That was it. Boom. It's the That and there's so much. nerves and so much like anxiety and you. range them and he's coming in and it's. like. and you think he's going to be at 50 but. all of a sudden he's at 20 and then it's. like don't punch the shot, like relax, execute a perfect shot. here's the beauty of all that in the. outdoors. You know, when you. Here, these are mild. They're good. though.

Um. Man, when you when you when you kind of. conquer one level of fishing or hunting, then there's another one you can go. learn to spice in. You know what I'm. saying? You can go. Right. And what I say is like I just. I mean, from. the elk hunter that I was. Um the elk hunter that I was 10 years. ago, like took so much. took so much work. to to even get.

from a 10% knowledgeable elk hunter to a. 60%. Now, like I can watch that elk. react to everything and know. what that elk's. how that elk's reacting because I've. done it for 11, 12 years now. And I've. got I've taken my boys. Well, so when you get tired of whitetail. hunting and whitetail hunting gets. rudimentary, then go. try to dig in and take it to the next. level to challenge yourself. That's.

what's so fun about like when I got. I was always a bass fisherman, always a. bass fisherman. Never fly fisherman, but. then I got into fly fisherman and that. became the new. 7-year challenge that I. your own flies? I I can now the little I can tie big. streamers. Right. But like the little bitty. When you got to get like goggles on. [ __ ]. Oh yeah. I I. It's a real art form. Totally. the one of the most rewarding things you. can do.

Sure. You make your own lures. own fly. Yeah. and trick. a big ass fish. a big fish with it and. Yeah. My My only problem with fly fishing is a. lot of it is catch and release. And I'm like. It's fun. I know it's fun, but you're. basically just [ __ ] with fish. You're. just [ __ ] with them like I could have. killed you, [ __ ] You know? Well. I like it. I get it. The handling of the trout like when I.

was you know I grew up bass fishing and. we're like. and the bass flies out of the water. Right. we grab it and you know as kids we're. like oh we throw you know you catch a. trout and it's like a it's like a. creature. Yeah, it's like a. a team in the in the delivery room comes. in to hold the the brand new baby or. what heck they treat newborns. They're. slapping newborns around and getting. their lungs going before you know you. mishandle a trout, but you know there. the the whole mystique of trout and and. all of this stuff is is just uh.

man it's outlets for all of us, you. know? I mean I remember when I I moved. to Nashville man my dad he kept me. fishing and hunting and. he wound up being a pretty dang. successful business guy. and he all he told me he goes dude when. you moved to Nashville. don't forget to take time to go do that. stuff. And you know for about two or three. years man I didn't. I was focusing on my. career. Mhm. But now as I roll out man you know as.

I'm kind of. established. It's you know I can man it's it's been. the highlight and. the fact that three boys landed in my. life. like you know. my wife's like, "You're You're It's not. even fair that you have cuz I can always. use one of them." I was like, "Well, baby Bo, you know, he's really been. stressed at school and he wants to hunt. this season." She's like, "I know your. game. I know your game. But, uh. Well, we're so lucky in this country, too, that there's so much places that.

are public land. That's another thing. that Europe doesn't have. I mean, that's. what Robin Hood was all about. People. think Robin Hood was uh steal from the. rich and give to the poor. No, it was. about hunting lands and hunting rights. People were starving and the king had. all the land. And there was all these. deer and Robin Hood would go out and. whack deer. Like, that was the story. about Robin Hood. It really wasn't about. stealing money. It was really about. hunting rights. Right. They don't have that over. know that. Yeah, well, that's what's why it's so. [ __ ] over there. That's why they don't. have this attitude about. why That's why, you know, you hope um.

the the whole education of hunting and. land owners and and conservation of the. animals and all the land. ties into where, you know, land owners need to. have a better understanding of, "Man, give this old boy a break. Give this guy. that just knocked on your door and asked. permission the good old-fashioned way, man, give him a break and let him take. his son or go. Yeah. go hunt, you know, and and don't, you. know, don't hoard Don't hoard your.

15,000 acres till you're. Right. you know, but. till you're dead. But, hopefully he's a. good guy. That's the problem, also, is. that [ __ ] ask for permission and. then do something stupid. You know, Dude, I had a guy shoot a stag one of. them first year I put my stag in my. fence, shot him right off the road. Really? Left him. Man, it. Oh my god. You talk about pissed. Right off the road. Just shot him and. left him. Shot him and left him. Yeah, I see there's people like that out. there. That's so [ __ ] up. apples, you know. They They're out.

there. that to a stag, too? God, that's so. awful. Yep. And the meat is so sensational. To know. that meat is going to go to waste. That's so crazy. Man, I don't know. You know, I guess enough whiskey and a old back. road and a rifle you'll you'll you'll. Shitty education, bad childhood, all the. above. Well, but um. Yeah, all the above. But yeah, I mean I look at um. I've got a Teal, my nephew. He's lived. with me since he was.

12 and then my So Teal's 22 now and Beau. is uh Beau's 16 and Tate is 14. And Teal was 15 when he killed his first. elk. The rule has been if you can pull. 55 lb, you're you're you're ready to hunt. And. so Beau is a lot bigger than Tate when. he was. 13 and 14. So Beau, my 13-year-old, killed a full-grown elk at 13. Whoa. With a bow?

With a bow. Whoa. Totally the freaking most badass thing. I've ever seen. And then. Just to be that young and be able to. execute the shot. Dude, he did it and he earned it. And. like I said, I've been hiking them up. those hills. That's what another. Like the the hunting and the the killing. is Man, when you pack out a damn. Yeah. 800-lb animal. The first time I packed. my elk out, dude, when I got to the. Polaris, I mean I was like.

I was sobbing. Like from. Exertion? Exertion. Like delusional. Because we took a wrong turn, we hit a. big aspen blowdown. And. I had to tote the head and the cape out. and I had to walk over blown-down aspens. with that cape. And once we got. 500 yd into the blowdown, and man, we got to that bug and you. know, all the And all the elk hunting. guides, they're the toughest they're the. toughest dudes. they're doing that all all long. They're.

grizzled. They're the toughest guys. I tell. people, man, if I get called to. a serious uh. if I get called in in a serious war, I'm. calling my elk guide. That's That's my. first That's my first call, so. But it's you know, when I didn't grow up. ever thinking I'd have the opportunity. or the or the you know, the the ability. to go hunt elk. But once you start doing. it and and. and but you know, man, this this week I. killed Thursday I killed my biggest.

whitetail I ever did and then. I was so I'm so. like overwhelmed by killing it. I. haven't even like I don't even know if. I've enjoyed it yet because it was it. kind of happened fast. But um it's just so fun. We uh. How big is it? It was big. Yeah. So listen, now and so I didn't post it. cuz it's obviously in my high fence and. you know the. you know, but man, this deer was born in. the fence. In Tennessee, you can't bring any.

genetics in. You can't do anything. Whatever herd you have. when you. wild herd. Whatever wild Tennessee deer you have, you have to grow them. And man, this deer, Joe, when he was 2 years old, we were like, "What in the [ __ ]. what a UFO ship dropped this off in. here?" He started with huge mass, different looking genetics and we. watched him for we grew him for. we feel like he's 5 and 1/2 and uh.

Whoa. Dude, we are we are over the moon about. that deer. I know. That's a huge deer. How How big is your. property? It's uh I guess all together it's. probably 11 probably 1,200 acres in the. fence. So, that is much more space than a deer. would ever travel in its natural life. anyway. I'll I'll put it to you this way. We put about 18 red stag in there. They're up We don't know how many there.

are. That deer might have got [ __ ] by a. stag. I think he might have. Yeah, he might. have He might have crossed crossed a. hybrid, yeah. Dude, we will ride around. We We have. too many stag and we'll try to thin them. out, Joe. We can't find them. Like. literally like we'll spend a day. I'm like, "Hey, grab the rifle. We're. going to pull up here, walk this. bottom." Can't find them. There's 60 of. them in there. We hunted them for 4 days this weekend.

We killed We killed two. So So 1,200 is. I mean um. It's much larger than a deer would have. in its natural world. Yeah, and I you know, I Listen, I mean. we There There are a million ways you. can. criticize me for having the high fence. But, you know, I have low fences that we. we bounce back and forth on the low. fences. Cuz that's fun as hell, too, to not know. what's walking in. But, the main thing.

is is I wanted my boys to have the. ability to manage deer and and grow. them. And I grew up I love South Texas. big big I love South Texas deer hunt. Like. But I learned I leased I leased a South. Texas place down here. And then I learned having, you know, young children and my schedule, man, to. go own a South Texas ranch, commit that. much to a South Texas ranch, and get 5. days there weren't my thing. So, my my. high fence in Tennessee is kind of like.

my little ode or my little homage to to. my love for South Texas whitetail. So. So, you can keep it close. Keep it close. It's 55 minutes from the. house. Oh, that's nice. And it's a it's a retreat. I get down. there. You know, Starlink has ruined us cuz now. we have internet. Yeah. But, before that, man, you we'd pull in. the pull in the holler down there, and. you'd have to drive up to the hill to. make a phone call, but oh oh Elon saved. us on that. So. Yeah, the new Starlink's wild. It's the.

size of a like a notebook. Well, what was funny is the first time. the first time we saw the satellites. come over, we were at elk camp. And you know, my nephew, Teal, he's 21, and we're all liquored up, and my. nephew, he goes, "Guys, I know we've been drinking all day, but what in the hell is coming toward us. right now?" And we were like. and then we had one guy in the group was. like, "God damn, THAT'S ELON MUSK.".

AND WE WATCHED it go over, and we were. like. "Wow, what a what a". It's amazing. We we used one in Utah for. the first time this year. So easy to set. up, set it up in like 5 minutes, and then we're online, YouTube, whatever. you want. when I went to elk camp, my wife was. like, "All right, I'll I'll hear I'll. see you I'll talk to you in 6 days.". First day, elk camp, set the Starlink. out, FaceTime, "Hey, baby, how are you?". Crazy. Yeah. My uh buddy was um.

uh deer hunting recently in South Texas, and he said on three different occasions. in the week, their deer got bumped by. illegals. He said it was crazy. He said illegal. aliens just moving through the ranch. He. said they they have, you know, a swarm of them every day. I hunt South Texas every year, and the. ranch we went to last year, at any given moment, you can drive and. pick up 50 backpacks.

They just. that ranch looks like. I when I and I hadn't been th- this. ranch was closer to the border than I've. ever been, and. there are piles of backpacks and tarps, you know, they'll take tarps. and. put the tarp out and they're do well, they'll wait in the day and then they. get, you know, they get picked up at. night typically, but but when they get. picked up, they chunk their backpack and. dude, they like that that the ranch I.

was at they have to have a full-time. team of people just going around picking. up backpacks and keeping trash off the. ranch. My buddy who has a ranch in South Texas. found a dead guy. Found the guy ran out of water. Just died on his ranch. And it it's heartbreaking because dude, you. if anybody dude, I can't imagine having to walk through. that brush to get to freedom. Right. Because when I get back. where you're going. Not knowing where you're going and. probably you have kids. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, when I leave South Texas, I'm.

pulling cactuses out of my ass for a. month. Yeah. Especially if you do, you know, you got. rat- you got rattle form and stuff. So man, it's. Forget about rattlesnakes. Forget about. everything else that's down there. And when water, yeah, when you think. about man, you you get your water. rations. Yeah. You you miss that? Yeah. You could zig when you should have. zagged and you're not going to run into. water. Especially down there. And it was. in the summer. So, you know, 105°. outside. This poor dude just died. And they found him.

Well, I I every ran- every ranch. every ranch I've went to the ranch owner. um you know, they're encountering two. two deaths a year, 15 to 20. Most of the time they come up to the the. main headquarters. needing water and when they get to you. or that's been my experience with. talking to ranch managers down there. They're they're very you know, they're. not I don't think they're there to. create any problems. They just like, hey, you know, we're. Right. we need some water and.

majority of them are just trying to get. a better life. Get a better life and. Yeah, and we would be doing it, too. Could you imagine if you're living in a. third world country and you had kids and. you realize you can get to America and. you get a good job and you got to figure. out how to do it. Yeah, I would do it. We would all do it. We would all do it. It's just the the craziness of not. knowing where you're going in South. Texas, which is so vast. I mean. I think it's one of those things where. people talk about it, it's almost like. talking about space. You know, like, "Oh, the galaxy is 200 million stars or.

200 billion stars." It doesn't make. sense cuz it's like it's too big for you. to understand. If you had to walk. through South Texas, it's South Texas. Well, uh. Texas itself is bigger than like. multiple countries in Europe. Yeah. Well, I think, you know, and even. imagine before like the oil booms and. oil rigs and stuff like that. Now they. have a little bit of visual. Right. lights to walk to. Right. Right. I mean, man, I couldn't imagine. Yeah. Just striking out. Just taking a chance.

Crossing the Rio Grande and. hoping. Hoping or maybe you've gone with. someone who went through it before or. they have a vague memory of what's the. best way to get to a creek. I I don't know. I mean, I. you know, we we've been there and you. know, the the guys they they open box. blinds, you know, the they're hunting. towers and there's a family sleeping in. the box blind and man, you just got to. you got to feel so sorry for them. I. mean, how bad. Look, I mean, I thought I mean, dude, I.

remember when I was 15, 16 years old. processing. Cubans where it's so bad that you're. going to [ __ ] piece together. a raft. Mhm. and you're going to you're going to give. it a you're going to give it a go for. Miami? Right. I remember being 16 going, "How bad must. that be? How bad must that be?". Pretty [ __ ] bad. Pretty [ __ ] bad. Pretty [ __ ] bad. Their their case is. a little different cuz they're running. from a communist dictatorship and. they're like, "We got That's why the.

most Republican [ __ ] in this. country Cubans. Cubans go hard. They're like, "We've. seen We've seen what all this socialist. horse [ __ ] comes down to." And it comes. down to government control over every. aspect of your life and they they. enforce it with violence. They enforce. it with guns. It's not as simple as. everybody just gives up whatever they. have and now everybody has an equal. amount. That's all nonsense. That's the. That's the hook. But the reality is the. government controls everything and you.

are [ __ ] And they always live in big. ass houses and they eat great food and. everybody else is starving. everywhere. It's from from Africa to. Cuba to I mean the whole African. That that whole. Have you ever hunted in Africa? I haven't, but I know I will. I I will I. can go on this show and say, "Man, I'm. not like a. I'm not one of those guys that's like. thinking about an elephant or lions and. all that." I just I love to bow hunt and. I love I'd like plains animals, you. know, your your kudus and all that stuff, man.

I I I you know, to to be able to When my. boys get a little older and we can do a. proper 2-month. Currently sports and my children have. ruined my hunting life or my Well, cuz. my my boys are going to play all the. sports, but when when we can get a I'd. love to do them a gap year and let's go. do a a true safari. Yeah. And and now when I say safari, that. doesn't mean I want to go like hunt 60. days. I want to do like your I want to. see the all of the Serengetis and all of. the animals and take in the animals for.

a month and have like the the wives and. the girls and the girlfriends and we sit. out there and do the safaris, but then I. want to carve out 2 or 3 days where all. the boys go. you know, go get the true. plains game uh. Yeah. And I I would love It's man, I tell you. it's pretty cool story. My um. my pilot my lead pilot is South African. and during COVID, man, he couldn't his. mother was dying and he couldn't get. down there to.

tell his mother bye. And at this point I. just. I just kind of got to know AJ. and man he. I've always heard South Africans are. pretty badass dudes and at the time I. was learning that AJ's a pretty badass. dude. I didn't all all together know it. but. well he caught he he got with me and he. goes Luke man uh it's still I cannot get. into South Africa. It may have been his. mother or his wife's mother but I called.

some local guys some local Congress guys. in Tennessee and we they granted him. permission. to um get down there and they got to. tell uh either his wife's mother bye. Well he comes back he's like Luke. I now owe you a Cape buffalo. And I was like what? He goes my family has a big ranch. We're. overrun with Cape buffalo and you now. have one of my Cape buffalo. So dude he.

is going to fly me down there and I'm. like and that's just kind of the way. he's he's he's wired but you know he's. going to help us with some safari stuff. down there. Don't they call them the black death? Yeah now they are bad. Yeah you you. don't just go running up to them. Yeah. Like with with your not your [ __ ]. together. That's a big animal. It That's like a. 1800 pound animal right? Maybe bigger and like. all muscle. So Cam and Adam Greentree they went up.

to uh Australia. You know Australia has. like an infestation of Asian buffalo. They have I forget which type of buffalo. it is but um invasive. So someone. introduced it like all the animals in. Australia. A lot of the mammals were. introduced and they have no natural. predators. So they have these buffalo up. there everywhere. Cam said he shot one. and he they you know they went up there. with no food and they went up there to. live off the the They're drinking out of. [ __ ] crocodile lakes. Like literally. bathing in that [ __ ] filtering water.

filtering water, eating whatever fish. they caught. It's Cam's new version of pushing. himself. Now he's going to Now he's. going to. I think it was Adam's idea. He's a. psycho, too. So, they're the both of. them are perfect together. So, he said. he had one piece of buffalo in his mouth. for a half an hour just chewing on it. He said that's how tough they are. He said it took forever to EAT THAT. THING. IT'S THE TRUE FORM of like yeah, no. that's even a whole 'nother level of of.

true organics when it takes you. you know, when your jerky's jerky right. out of the right out of the you know, right in the field. Yeah, well there's no dry-aged buffalo. out there. No, that's a [ __ ]. say how it was a taste of it? Um I mean. Cuz most plains animals in Africa. uh historically. they say are far beyond our plains. animals as far as the meat. Like your. kudus and your. I mean your I'm drawing a blank on all. the plains games. And then like I said,

this is stuff that I'm like totally. elementary in cuz I don't I just don't. know much about that whole African. thing. like the things that the big cats want. to eat are all delicious. Right. Yeah. Like I shot a nilgai a couple years ago. and tigers eat them. Right. Did you ever eat the nilgai? Yes, delicious. And they're the meat is like a even more. vivid. a more vivid red. color to it than even our you know, our. elk and stuff.

Well, it's all delicious. My favorite is. still elk, but another one is axis deer. They They get hunted by tigers and. they're some of the best tasting animals. alive. Axis deer are delicious. Well, I. I think cats are smart. Just like bears. are smart, too. Salmon's delicious. They sit there and pick them off. They know what they're doing. Well, have you done Africa? Are you you. going to do it? I would like to. I'd like to go over to. Africa just to see it. you you really got it. Cam, was he kind. of your catalyst in and God, I mean you.

pick it's like you had. it's like you had. Michael Jordan teaching me how to play. basketball. you how to shoot free throws, yeah. It's. so fun, though. But, you know, even with God I tell you, man, I dove. hard into duck hunting and you talk. about. you talk about I mean learning to blow a. duck call. And when you think you know how to blow. a duck call and then you get next to. somebody that blows a duck call and you. blow yours and the room starts laughing. at you like like ridicule like.

take your duck call off. and put it in your bedroom and leave it. when we go hunting. And I'm like, "Dude, I've been working on this [ __ ] thing. for 4 years." And they're like. and it's so funny, but. elk bugles. Yeah, And someone who sucks at bugling, like. you hear them like, "What the [ __ ] is. that?". it's like you walking in with a with a. tutu on. Yeah. I love duck hunting, too. I've never. done it, but I love the idea because. you're sneaking, you're hiding, you got.

fake ducks, you got the whole deal. You. got some some people have ducks that. even have like flopping wings. got all Listen, man, let me tell you. something. Dude, I got given a chocolate lab about 8. years ago. And here comes this wormy ass chocolate. lab into my home, you know, scrawny and since then, oh my. god, that damn animal. has thrust me into duck hunting just so.

I could take him duck hunting. And man, it is it's tough. like the same excuse you used with your. kids. That's right, my kid, yeah. to go for the dog. Yeah, for the dog. needs some duck hunting. And then and my wife is this dog, man, this dog can open every drawer in our. house. He can open Frito Lays with his beak and. smack Frito Lays open and eat them. He. can He can He is He's He's pushed a. porcelain pound cake a pound cake on a.

porcelain. island off onto the floor, ate the pound cake and the porcelain. dish. And like X-ray 100 shards of porcelain. in stomach. The vet's like, "Put that. [ __ ] out in the yard cuz there's any. if he makes it if he lives, call me. back." He lived. And now I have duck. hunting properties and my boy, you know, so and we're in the house blowing duck. calls. My wife's like, you know, I mean my wife's like five.

four boys in the house all of them. blowing duck calls. She's like, "Man, one day yeah.". So do you have one of them setups where. you're like hiding in one of those. shacks that's underground? yeah we have we have elevated blinds. that are brushed in and some brush and. then we have pit blinds that are you. know, when you get down in a pit blind. it up? Yeah, you're right along the water. level. And then. you know, we have you know, there's. experiences where you wait in the woods. and they they come down in the woods and.

and man, it's just uh. And and it's the thing about the thing. that really makes duck hunting. kind of like when you're in a blind with. your with your Let's just say you got. your buddies from way back and there's. five of you and you're sitting there. smoking cigars and you know, you're. you're you're in the blind together and. you're very It's very social, too. Drinking coffee, it's you know, 15°. coffee, cigar you know, and everybody's. like, "Shh shh shut up shut up shut up. shut up." And you work the ducks. They.

light in front of you. Kill them. Dog gets them. Brings the. duck back. You look at the duck and. you're just like. just have a big old toke on your cigar. and you're like, "Yep, this is pretty good [ __ ] right. here.". at cooking them? Yeah, man. You know, the thing about it. when you do. you know, your grain ducks, your ducks. that feed on your rice and your and your. your corn. You know, you like a a diver. duck that eats essentially minnows. Yeah, you know, that you don't want to.

eat that. But, and geese geese are you you find. somebody that can cook a goose. You know. the story about how to cook a goose? No. Well, you get a big pot and you put your. you put a you put a bunch of water and. then you put a concrete cinder block in. there and you boil the goose and you. pull the goose out and eat the cinder. block. But, some people can make uh. But, I thought goose was like a thing. Christmas goose. speckled goose. Speck Specklebellies are.

good. But, I like a mallard and a wood duck. Oh, man, a wood duck with jalapeno and. cheese and bacon wrap which nothing. nothing's bad when you do that. But, My friend Jesse Griffiths, he runs this. restaurant out here called Dai Due and. Is it. It's fantastic. And he serves a lot of. wild game and Jesse came on this hunt. with us with Steve Rinella down in South. Texas and Jesse cooked some diver duck. And he. Was it good? It was fantastic. the hell Jesse is. He's a wizard. Is is a wiz Well, that's great, then.

He's a real chef. Well, that So, So, Ryan Seacrest, he's. like, "Hey, man, Ryan Seacrest, the radio guy? Yeah, my guy. Yeah, the. at American Idol. And. Seacrest goes, "Hey, I've got uh. You need a light?". Yeah, thanks. He goes, "Dude, I booked this at EMP, 11. Madison Park. Number one at the time. number one restaurant in. downtown, you know, Adam was. uh. Ryan was taking me and Katie and Lionel.

to dinner and I've never been to a the. certainly the number one restaurant in. the world. Well, they take us to of the. kitchen. And dude, they have ducks. Walls. Cuz all of your your French. cuisine, the real the centerpiece is. duck. That's like the Duck fat. The ducks are the the real big part of. French cuisine. But dude, I see these uh. I see all these ducks and I'm like, "What are y'all doing here?" He goes, "Man, we're aging them.".

So, they get these Now, they're getting. probably they're they're getting. farm-raised, organically grown ducks. And they age them with with the guts in. them. Yeah, I've heard of that. I've heard people do that with like. pheasants, too. You hang them by their. neck. enzymes of the guts. pull stuff out of the meat. Well, it adds a flavor to it, apparently. And dude, man, I ate ducks that. me out. Yeah. Well, here's the tricky part, because.

dude, I don't know if I enjoyed my meal, cuz I I picked the chef's brain. Cuz I. wanted to figure out a way to take my. mallards. and all my ducks I killed and age them. properly. But what you do got to worry. about is when you shoot them, you know, you're putting you know, you're shooting. it's good the guts are going. Right. through kind of in the meat a little. bit. So, that gets a. them, right. Right. That's different. than an organic duck. that good where I all head shot them. yet, but uh. No, when. when these guys are aging them, what's.

the temperature in the room? it's I think it's like a you know, just. above. They're not freezing them. I think it's. however you would dry age a a cow. So, like 40° or something like that. and 13, 15 days with the guts in them. And then. 15 days with the guts in them. I've. heard that people hang their pheasants. until their their heads fall off. And that's when they that's when they. cut them up. Like who figured that out? Like who is. the bold bastard.

It's the guy that ate the. the guy that ate the first oyster, right? You know. out of the puddle. Right. Yeah, and I you know, it is. fascinating in pheasant and when you. look at pheasant and quail and chuckers. and you know, Hungarian partridge. Now, you're talking about the you're talking. about the end all of of wild game. In my. opinion, the top of the. That's what you like the most? Well, I think when you look at the. pheasants, you know, they're you know, they call them prairie chickens and. they're beautiful. The meat's a little. wider and less gamey or so uh. Have you had sandhill crane?

Yes, ribeye of the sky. I haven't, but it's crazy to look at it. It does look like steak. It's a red. meat, a deep red meat, and it's a bird. And you know, they're. uh they're wild little creatures, too, man. You know, when you when you take. your lab sandhill crane hunting, you got. to you got to fit them with goggles. Cuz they'll poke your eye out? Yeah. Whoa. And then. um. we I I I just got in a golf course. property down in Florida. And uh we sold.

our beach house and then we're kind of. migrating to this place. And I fly down to the tour of the. property and I'm like, "Dude, what are what are what are y'all doing. with all these sandhill cranes?" And. they're like, "What do you mean?" It's. like a golf course guy. Right. And I said, "Dude, that's the ribeye of. the sky, bro." He's like he looked it up. and I don't you can't shoot sandhill. cranes in Florida. What? I dude, they're. Somebody call the governor. everywhere. Really? Everywhere on this property. shoot sandhill cranes in Florida, but.

you can shoot alligators? I I unless they're lying to me because. they're scared I'm going to go like. I'm going to like, you know, have a. psychotic episode and go running out. through the golf course with a with the. guns. Maybe it's just the area where you're. at, you couldn't shoot sandhill cranes. in certain counties of it, but you know, even in Tennessee, Florida sandhill. protected under the federal. under federal migratory bird treaty act. Look at. [ __ ]. Wow, state rule, blah blah blah, intentional feeding of sandhill cranes.

is prohibited. So, you can't hunt them. Wow, they're. protected. Well, in Tennessee, we have uh. in Tennessee, there's a couple guys that. guide them, and I think it's a draw tag. You can draw You can put in to draw a. sandhill crane tag, and then. Man, they make a They make a very. distinct uh. Something like that. And dude, you can. hear them, and I'll hear them coming. over my farm. And uh God, if if that's the wrong noise.

I just made, I'm going to get uh. Sounds good. I I'm going. You got it? Whoa. I love this guy. I need me one of. That's them. Wow. Now, that's a. all of them. Yeah, that's You hear that? Yeah. What a [ __ ] cool animal. They sound. like something from Avatar. See those beaks? Yeah. Those are uh Labrador blind Labrador.

retriever blinders right there. How what How do you fasten the goggles. on a dog? Man, it Oh God, here he goes. Oh my God, this is like the drill. Jamie'll find it. Sandhill crane goggles for labs. This is. going to be great. Do Does it Do How does it secure on? I'm. thinking about a dog's face. It's a I guess you've seen those dogs in. those side cars on the uh on the. motorcycles. Probably probably that that. rig.

But, um. Uh. I don't think that's the same. Yeah, that's that's like That's an. Aspen. That's two dogs being silly. Yeah. Yeah. But, um the um. Yeah, so in Tennessee, you you can hire. a guy, and he'll take you, and they'll. kind of get them coming in an area, and. I think you. You got it. You got it. Oh, there it goes. goes. Oh, wow. Oh, that's crazy. Now, those look like I think those are. snow geese. So, snow geese are probably. the same. Look at their goggles all scratched up, too.

Yeah. crane hunt. No, those are Yeah, those are sandhills. Wow, that's crazy. Dogs need to have. their eyes protected. Yes, so when you when you get. Yeah, when you got your golden. Mhm. But, man, if you get you a lab and Oh, man, beware of that cuz you will get. hooked and you'll you'll start. sure I would be. Uh also, I love duck. Duck's delicious. Oh, on the grill, marinated in a. marinated properly for. a day or two, plan on it. That's what Jesse does. That's the. difference and that's what he does.

duck. I'm telling you this diver duck was. sensational. Well, but when that and that's the. that's what you got to watch in all wild. game is, man, plan it. preparation. Get it marinated and and and man, you. you just can't beat it. Yeah, you got to know what you're. cooking, how to cook it, especially if. you you're cooking something that has. low body fat. You got to make sure you. cook it nice and slow. You know, that's one of the great things about. things like a Traeger. And you could just set it for 265. best thing in the world. Leave it. The new one's fantastic, too.

It just everything comes out so smoky. and delicious. If you know what you're doing. 4th of July. he was I think he was drunk and hated us. on 4th of July cuz he stayed up smoking. the Boston butt every night. You know, I remember my dad, man, he. he'd had that old Char-Broil out there. and he'd get up with his vinegar and all. this [ __ ] and he would wake up all night. night before the 4th and smoke them. butts, man. But, now you just walk out, put that thing on 220 at about 8:00.

p.m., wake up at wake up at 8:00 a.m. and. The app tells you if you're low on. pellets. I know. It's like, what are we doing. here? It's crazy. It's so much easier. What. There's something that men are attracted. to like cooking over wood, though. Like an actual fire and trying to cook. over wood. it in in Texas, you know, right here. I. mean, these guys take a damn. You know, they they. Propane tanks. They glue four propane tanks together. and have a smoke stack. And the guy that. uh. What's our guy that does our charity.

event? Oh my god, I can't believe I'm. I'll I'll come up with him, but Mark. text me uh. Meat Church. Have you met the Meat. Church dude? I met that dude. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He comes and He's got some. awesome rubs. He's got all that, but. then what's funny is yeah, he pulled up. to our charity event with this big. smoker. And man, I'm like, this is like. Elon Musk style engineering on this. thing. It's pretty, you know, and man, you know, they get out there and yeah, they'll look at me and you doing. Traegers and we're That's about like us.

That's our version of having a tutu on. It is funny cuz people want to do it all. themselves. The offset smokers. Like if. you've ever gone to Terry Black's here, see the lines of the offset smokers. Terry Black's is the number one barbecue. place in the country, probably in the. world. They cook more volume of barbecue. than anywhere else on the country. And. they have just line after line of these. giant propane tank smokers with briskets. and beef ribs and spare ribs.

when I when I moved to Nashville, being. a South Georgia boy, I'd never even. heard of brisket. Really? We There was we only knew pork barbecue. And it's just So, when I moved to. Nashville, and then like there's some. dude there with a Texas brisket. restaurant in Nashville, I'm like, what. are they talking about brisket? And this. was 2001 I moved to Nashville. This is. how insulated you could be in your own, you know, as we talk about the ways of.

the world changing. I mean, it's like, dude, I lived in a section and and. everybody North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, we they didn't Brisket was like. I think brisket was originally a German. thing. I think it was like with the. sausages. Like there was cuts of the. meat. Well, the the smoker thing came. certainly from German immigrants that. came to Texas. That's where the the. origin of the barbecue out here is. And then the the whole. And then the brisket was like cuts that. nobody else wanted. Right. Right. So, they figured out a way to.

take these cuts that nobody else wanted. and turn them into something delicious. They just had to do it over time. And. now it's like a preferred cut. You know, if you go to Terry Black's, the brisket. sensational. And they're probably cooking, you know, the preferred cuts of like which cut of. the brisket would you like? Not the not. the old flank meat down there, you know, probably you can probably get the ribeye. and all that. all just how long you cook it for. How. do you how you do it? What temperature? And they they wrap it and then they. unwrap it and they spray it. Like they.

have it down to a science. And then at. the end, it's like the the the key is. you want to be able to fold it over your. finger and not have it break apart. Just. get it to just where it folds over. See, our deal was just always smoke a. big pig, you know, smoke a pig. You know, you know, not not the not the ones big. as this table, but you know, about about. that long. 100 pounder. Yeah. Yeah. And walked up there on the family. reunion and all the women were grossed. out cuz you know, you're just pulling. the the big pig, you know, the big you. know, you can pull that meat off a pig.

It's like that. So, God, we're getting hungry, Joe. I know. That's the the the good thing about wild. pigs, too. So, they're always available. to hunt. Like the one of the great. things about Texas. It's it's not good. if you own a ranch or if you have a. farm, but if you're a person who wants. to hunt, you can hunt wild pigs 365 days. a year and always have sausage. Our place in. me and my best friend, we've got a like. a quail hunting place in down in the. heart of South Georgia, tons of swamps.

Dude, we were uh. which you know all the math and I'm sure. you've brought it up on. um how many. uh sow pigs or you know, they'll kick. off 30 30 pigs. uh a year annually. yeah. And then we would have we would have. them roll through our front front yard. $30,000 damage a night. Yeah. And the most And for anybody out there. listening, if you have this going on, we. mounted um we mounted lights in all the.

trees around our whole lodge. And you flip them lights on we hadn't. had one wild hog root up our yard since. They will not come around those lights. They don't they It's a great tactic. That's interesting. Yeah, and when somebody told him, you. know, some good old boy told him and he. was like, "Man, we'll try anything." cuz. you would walk out there and it looked. like. 300 landmines went off. And the night. before our our yard looked like Augusta.

Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it? I mean, they are they are bad little. dudes, man. They do a lot of damage. I mean, in. Texas alone, it's millions and millions. dollars of damage to crops every year. They shoot them out of helicopters here. You ever seen it You ever done any of. that? Have you? It is. Man, it is. It's the most unfair type of hunting. that's ever existed. Man, if you know. I don't know, you know, my children I. took my boys.

and somewhere there's a you know, I hope. he doesn't hear, but there's a Navy SEAL. Marine recruiter cuz my sons are ready. for warfare after doing that. I'm like. But you know, my the guy that we took, you know, he's got a big beautiful high. fence and me, you know, you can if you. fly around and man, you can you know. you he has to thin them out every year. Yeah, you have to. But it's so fun doing it out of a. helicopter, you don't want to thin them. all out cuz you keep wanting to you. know, you keep wanting to do it a little. bit, but uh.

Yeah. But uh it's a You hadn't done that yet? No. No. I'm still. I just mostly bow hunt them. Well, you know, the uh. our our our our pig stuff in in Georgia, man, it it it's fun because you can go. on a deer hunt and shoot some deer with. a bow and then we'll take a rifle and. and late in the evening the hogs will. come out and. and uh. you know. of guys shoot them at at nighttime, too. Yeah, yeah. And then we. with thermals.

We have guys with the big uh you know, with the big you know, trapdoors that. trap them and stuff like that. So, uh. I mean, they're they're they're probably. the number one. you know, wildlife. I I never will forget I you know, right. when like maybe iPhones come out and you. get your iPhone news updates and then I. never even knew what the magazine like. The New Yorker was or like The Guardian. and all those things. Well, The New. Yorker, I'm scrolling through and I see. feral pigs and it was this huge article.

done by uh a guy. uh maybe the editor of The New Yorker. Man, he did a great job with that. article and just went through. and this was 15 years ago I read that. article about. you know, the feral hog problems and and. you know, you would think I I would I. don't know. I would think The New Yorker. leans. left. quite leans quite left, but the fact. that this guy wrote the article from a. perspective of. huge problem need to be need to be dealt.

with was pretty uh. pretty badass take on it. So. Well, once people see the sheer numbers, they're so overwhelming that you go, "Wait a minute. How. how are you going to stop this? How are. you going to stop it from multiplying. continually every year?" Well, you're. not. You're not. These places do not going to get to. that. There's too many of them. in these these swampy deals, you can't. you know, you can't you can't helicopter. them there. So, that's when you get you. know that's when you get these old boys. with their with their dogs and they run.

off in the. run off in the. That'll help, but even then. So Joe, here's here's another thing. You. think about this. So when I start with. my high fence with the year that I that. the year that I started it. um. our turkey population in Tennessee, which it's it's been going through hail. Um and you'll hear this. The turkey population in Tennessee was. one of the most amazing things I've ever. seen. I mean eastern turkey hunting. one of the most beautiful things in the.

wildlife that state of Tennessee has and. and my turkey population was like is. amazing and still is, but we hired a guy. and he put 110 traps out. 110. and night one had 100. over 100 varmints. Coons, possums, armadillos in the traps night one. So they're just killing all the turkeys. They eat the eggs. Yeah. You know, they're.

you know, a turkey lays 12. to 14 eggs. Now listen, I found this out. this year. This is going I hope I I. if I can get a couple nuggets that you. hadn't learned yet, that that's kind of. the goal for the day. So. a turkey does not lay their eggs all at. the same time. Really? They lay their eggs one day at a time. They will they lay it next to a water. source. They go to the water source, hold the. water in their mouth.

drip that water on the eggs periodically. using the water to hatch them at the. same time cuz a hen turkey. if she had to hatch. all the eggs hatch at the same time. But if she had to hatch them for 12 days. she couldn't ever keep them corralled. properly. Oh. So, she manipulates with water. And if. I'm wrong, now this is a biologist that.

told me this. Never I heard this this. year. Totally blew my mind. So, in the. nest, and I've walked up on them, they. got 12 or 13 of them sitting there. beautifully. And whatever that hen does, she manages. those eggs to hatch the same time. Wow. And maybe maybe. um Now, like a tortoise, I guess, or a a. beach turtle or whatever. You know, I. think they. they spit them all out that night. But a. hen a hen turkey does not Well, so one. armadillo rolls by that nest.

And that's a wrap. That's a wrap. She just lost them all. And. um So, there was a big study that went. on in uh Tennessee about the decline of. the turkey population. So, what do they do about that? They. they try to hunt armadillos? well, you you know, well, trapping now. is so rare. You know, trapping. the art of trapping has gone down quite. a bit. And the arm of the the the. um Oh, and I'm not even bringing up. coyotes in Tennessee. But uh.

So, yeah, if if you can if they can. loosen up Tennessee can loosen up their. trapping laws and make it more available. and. and uh you just got to thin out those uh. You know, armadillos in Tennessee, you. would have never um. Uh man, we woke up and we can ride. around and shoot 30 a night. Really? Armadillos. 30. On a on a. carry like crazy diseases? I wouldn't recommend touching them, you. know. They they.

you know, they say they do, but that. that's. that may. People eat them? I'd never heard of that, but I I you. probably can find somebody. eat raccoons. They definitely eat raccoons. And. definitely I don't know about possums, but. if you if you're eating a possum, you're. You are you are. Your your ass is hungry, so. hungry. But uh raccoons, I mean I yeah in. Georgia where we grew up had had several. old-timers, man, they'd get them a [ __ ]. and. it was always a. kind of a party deal. You know, it's. just. raccoon taste like?

I've never had. I never Well, we got old. buddy down there. He's like, "You know. what bald eagle tastes like? Owl.". So, I guess you could say raccoon, you. know, I had a buddy mine tell a game. warden that joke. It didn't go over. well, so. but uh. There's a lot of [ __ ] that people eat. that people would go, "What?". Yeah. I mean, when you're talking about. Yeah, I I saw somebody do what they do. the pig deal with a full gator. Oh, I've seen that before. And I hadn't done that. I've had gator. tail, but I hadn't had that done.

smoker and put a gator in there. thing on there. And they skin, you know, skin it and and all that. apple in its mouth. Yeah. You You know what's crazy in Georgia? There's a There's a place rural. So, all the chicken farms down there, huge chicken farms, all of them. Well, what do you do with the chicken. carcasses? Well, I mean, there's a lot. they used to grind them up and feed them. back to the chickens, but some of them. would get Well, they feed them to gator. farms. Oh, wow. them in a. put them in a um.

a limb a limb shredder. Oh, wow. Now, you talk about the most foul smell. on the planet, go into a gator farm warehouse. Joe. Buddy. Just rot. Nothing can replicate. Maybe the. surströmming challenge can rep you know, the. the the whole surströmming joke thing, but. What's that? You've seen where the guys pop the lid. on the uh Swedish fish?

NO. OH, JOE. SURSTRöMMING? What is it? Oh, we did it in our in our deer camp. It's like a aged Swedish fish that's. rotten in a can. It's aged? For years. Like a sardine. And so, yeah, the surströmming. challenge. I just got spaced. Dude, we popped that thing. So, people fish with them? They use it. for bait like for a catfish or. something? people eat that.

Oh, foul. And if you can stay in the room with it, Have you tried it? Dude, no one I No, I was outside 15 yd. from it throwing up in the flower bed. All right, we got to order some, Jamie. Order some. I'm glad I didn't get you uh. I might eat it on Fight Companion. But, um. Well, Denver's on They're on the verge. of passing a no fur law. So, if Denver passes a no fur law, what. are they going to do about cowboy hats. that have beaver skin lining?

And then, if you're going to say no fur, how are you going to say no fur, but. you're allowing leather? So, skin is. okay as long as you take the furry part. off? Is the furry part what's offensive? You know what I mean? If you know what. you would [ __ ] the the chaos that. would ensue if you outlawed leather? Everybody's belt is illegal. Everybody's. shoes are illegal. All Air Jordans are. illegal. it illegal. Illegal? Yeah, they're trying to pass a. law. They're trying to pass a law where. they ban fur.

Sorry. No worries. They've done it before. I. mean, they've done it in other places. it I like I said, where does it. gel at with a. keeps going. That's the problem. When I'm in America, it never. It never [ __ ] ends. When I'm in a No, it never. It's never going to end. They're going. to keep pushing. It would It'll get to you can't eat. meat. It'll get to it has to be lab. grown meat. It'll get to it will It. could get as crazy as you could ever. imagine. There's animal rights people. that would like to push in that. direction. And you would have never. thought that this would be possible, but. you would have never thought that you.

would have biological males competing. against females in high school sports. And that's everywhere. And if you. complain that, you're a bigot. You're. seeing the craziest of crazy thinking. There's people that think that. pedophiles are minor attracted persons. And they'll they'll talk about this as. university professors teaching classes. It's been recorded. People have seen it. It's not everywhere, but it's enough. where you go, I see where this goes if. it keeps going cuz none of this [ __ ]. existed 20 years ago. You go back to.

2004, there was none of this [ __ ]. Nothing. A transgender person was a rare. person with gender dysphoria. It was. very rare. And there wasn't a lot of. hatred towards those people. It wasn't a. thing that people worried about. Now. there is cuz everybody's like, what the. [ __ ] Why is this in schools? Why are. you having them There was a recent pool. tournament where it was a woman's pool. tournament in the semifinals, it's two. trans trans women competing against each. other. Two men, two biological men that. wear lipstick competing against each. other in a women's tournament. It's.

[ __ ] crazy. So I would never thought. that would be possible. So. It can get to the point where there's no. meat. It can get to the point where meat. There's this demonization of meat. You. keep hearing about it all the time. Meat. is the number one source of carbon. It's. [ __ ] complete total horse [ __ ] It's. not even number two. It's not number. three. It's not even [ __ ] close. Cow farts. Yeah, it's the dumbest [ __ ] ever. And. oh, BY THE WAY, ALL OF THAT IS factory. farming. Regenerative farming is. actually carbon neutral. If it doesn't.

If they don't sequester carbon, it's. actually good for carbon. There's a. whole reason why there's a there's a. balanced ecosystem of cows eating grass. and the grass fermenting in their. stomach and them creating manure. And that regenerates. Yes, regenerates. It's carbon neutral. It's actually good for the environment. and everything feeds off everything. There's a system that nature has evolved. for millions of years. That's That's the. normal way it's supposed to be done. And you know, we're just We're in a.

crazy time. Yeah, when you think of Denver and. Colorado and the outdoors, man, you got. to appreciate everybody's opinion of. you know, you know, the the you know, I mean, the. the it's a it's a so so old term, the. granola-ist, but it ain't granola no. more. I mean, it's it's. it's. They're going a lot further than. granola. Granola used to be normal until. they. See, the thing is, those people were. weird and rare, and they were tolerated. But then they got online and say if.

there's only 10 of them in this town and. five of them in that town. Well, then. now there's hundreds of thousands of. them collectively in the country all as. a group, and then they think that. they're activists. So, they they think. that they're doing something good. So, then they start saying things like, "No. fur in Colorado. Pass this bill." And he. starts saying, "No meat. No more meat. No one should have meat." Okay, what are you going to do with these. cows? What are you going to do? You're. going to go around castrating all those. bulls? What are you going to do? How are. you going to control the populations? Are you going to let them go extinct? You're going to castrate all the bulls?

Are you going to let some of them breed? How are you going to make this. distinction? Are you going to bring in. wolves to handle them? What are you. going to do? What the [ __ ] are you going. to do? What are you going to do with all those. people that work at the butcher shop? What are you going to do with all those. people that work at the meat processing. plant? What are you going to do with all. those people that have been transporting. meat back and forth? What are you going. to do with all those jobs, all those. families, all their income, all their. businesses that they've had for a. hundred [ __ ] years? What are you. going to do with that? These people have. like the most minimal understanding of. the system that they're trying to. influence.

They they don't know what the [ __ ]. they're doing by releasing wolves. They. think, "Wolves are beautiful. Yay!" See. the governor, he's releasing the wolves. He's like, "Yay!" He's like so happy. Yeah, they're going to be saying, "Yay!". when they're when they're down. I don't know, dude. The whole. The dogs are getting eaten. Dog, everything. Dude, let me tell you. something. Well, not only that, they brought in. wolves that had a history of killing. cattle. The wolves they brought into Colorado. than the grizzly focusing on the on. humans and.

man, we I live just south of Nashville. We got 180 acres. I've got neighborhoods all around us, man. About every now and then an email goes. out. Little fluffy's gone. Coyotes? We put six coyote traps out on my farm. one night. Six for six. Wow. And. let me tell you what else. is a little vicious son of a [ __ ].

A [ __ ] otter. Oh, yeah. Otters will [ __ ] you up. Let me tell you, buddy, those things are. I mean, Joe, I'm so like I mean, I we. like I said, my my brain is bass fishing. and all this stuff. Man, we'll have otters come up into my. bass pond. And [ __ ] those bass up. I'm talking about. they're [ __ ] gone, the fish, in three. nights. The fish are gone. And the.

otters. eat one and play with the other ones. that they kill. Wow. And like you go by my lake. like I have a all female bass lake at my. house, which you're going to this is a. whole 'nother fun deal. They will roll through there and eat my. all females. and just throw them up on the bank. There's carcasses. Like how many? Oh, you get four otters in your pond on. a 17-acre lake, they'll eat 20 bass a.

night. And you the problem is you don't know. you've been got. until it's too late. till you've been got. Wow. And so, Joe, a tip to grow a 10-lb bass. is about $3,000. And think about I've been loving on. these damn fish. I've been walking out. there making sure they're happy so we. can all catch them and.

yeah, and then damn them damn otters so. they'll if you have a overflow a. spillway on your farm. and it runs through your farm and dumps. into a major river body of water and. that otter swims by that water dumping. in that river. he is up that river he's up that. spillway into your lake and he is he has. got you. Wow. And we'll put traps out there. and man they just keep coming. Wow. Keep coming and I'm talking about otter. pelts.

I mean like the prettiest thing you've. ever seen. So do you turn them into coats or. anything? You I mean we've got enough where you. know we can we've got them skinned out. in freezers and rolled up in our. freezers and my my farm guys I mean I. think they're but you know the sad part. is there the market for that should be. an amazing market but I don't I don't I. think cuz everybody's scared to say they. got a damn otter pelt. Yeah. You know but. Yeah, fur it's fur's got a bad name. If.

it's got hair on it leather's fine. None of it's fine. But leather's fine with people. No one. has a problem with you wearing a cowboy. boots. Nobody gets mad. Yeah, see. leather. Nobody gets mad at leather. All. that is is fur with no with no [ __ ]. hair on it. It's the same thing. It's weird. But damn otters man them little rascals. you know they um. I got I'm building a lake at my place in. Georgia and it's right on the Flint. River. wildlife management. I love it man. It's it's so fun. It's so.

damn fun. Like it it's it's 4 hours of. my day. And it also cleanses your mind, right? Just like hunting. It's totally and it is not for myself. You can't my enjoyment is to watch. the kid my friend my buddies. my children's friends come enjoy it, too. You know, my my my sons will bring. a buddy home from school. And next thing you know, Tate and his.

13-year-old buddy are shooting bows in. the front yard all weekend. And this. kid, who doesn't have a dad that hunts. or has the ability, next thing you know, we I got one kid my my Tate's buddy. James. his eighth consecutive weekend at my. house hunting. Just loving life shooting bow and. arrows. Did you show him how to shoot correctly? Got it all got him dialed in. He shot. his first doe this weekend.

Nice. Just so fun. And so so you know, when you meet these guys that they don't. let anybody else enjoy it, I don't like. those guys either. Yeah. And and you know, I love to I love to. enjoy it with people, but yeah, the bass. fishing thing is a blast. But my my lake. in in Georgia, it's going to be about 35. acres and I think we'll do an all female. lake down there. Why all female? So. they can't breed. Your females are your trophy bass. Right, the big fat ones. The big fat ones. But don't they have to get pregnant to. be really big and fat?

You put them in and if you don't They. don't have to be pregnant. They just. have to have the big eggs and when they. lay them, they just have to have. a male not fertilize them. That's right. Of course. So if you get a male in there, then the male then you have a natural. thriving. He'll eat the babies, too, though, right? They'll a male bass will forage on. themselves. Yeah. And but male ba- Now, I have three lakes. that are naturally.

their own ecosystem. where we have to. you know, I've got a 82-acre bass lake. that we have to catch 3,500 lb of bass a. year. just to keep them from not choking. themselves out. Really? Oh, yeah. It's It's. 3,500 lb? 100 lb. So, how What do you do? Just call your. friends? Dude, we have bass roundups and we get. out there and we catch them and we'll. load up coolers and take them into the. little towns and give them, you know, we. have give them to people and I mean, it.

becomes a problem. It's a weird thing with largemouth bass, too, cuz a lot of people don't eat them. and yet they're delicious. They're good. They're great. They're. great. the same as bluegills. Well, bluegills bluegills. You know, like all the bluegills at my. lake are we feed them pellet food, so. they'll get big, so the bass will eat. them, so the bass will get big. Ah. And you don't want to go eat a bluegill. that's been parked under a pellet. Yeah. But.

a a little wild bluegill stream or a. little natural creek where I grew up in. Georgia, like shellcrackers and bluegill. that eat like a cricket or a that are. eating live stuff, you fillet one of. them real small creek or river bluegills. and. Oh, nothing better in the world. Yeah. And then. Bass is similar to that. Oh, bass if you. flaky white meat. Flaky white meat, get you a 3 or 4 lb. bass, fillet it like a red snapper. But people like catching them so much, they want you to release them.

We We spent our whole life My dad would. catch bass, we would fillet them. He'd put them in a Pyrex dish, sauté them, uh bake them, and then broil them on. top, and we'd eat ba- we'd eat. largemouth bass, you know. You could either have salmon croquettes. that stink up the whole house, you know, where you knew your mama was. cooking them, or you could have fresh. bass, you know, so we we grew up. But isn't it a weird animal or weird. fish, rather, that a lot of people don't.

eat, but it's good to eat? You know, you wouldn't want You wouldn't. want your You wouldn't want everybody. fish- fishing your big reservoirs. Like. Texas is the best big bass lake. reservoir state. Right. in the country. You wouldn't want. everybody out there keeping them. You. know, you want to practice. you want to practice catch and release. on your big public reservoirs. Right. But you know, when you've got a private. impoundment where. you know you know, you you'd want you. you want to you want to keep your bass.

cuz your bass you'll wake up. Let's just. Let's just say you've got a nice brand. new bass lake you built, 10 acres. You. stock it. You You spend 50 grand to put. your bluegill, your your all your fish. in there. Well, you know, then you just. don't ever catch them. Well, then in 5. years you've lost it. Right. You have to manage it. Yeah, you you're done. Your lake's done. Your Your. Your Your 3-lb bass didn't have enough. fish to get to 4 lbs. And then he missed a year of growing or.

she missed a year of growing. And then. you just put a $50,000 investment in. your bass lake. And then you're out. You You might as. well drain it, start over. You know what I'd really like to do? Get. a place in the north and have a a lake. with pike in it. I think that might be my favorite thing. to catch cuz they're so ruthless. That's. such a ruthless fish animal. [ __ ] dinosaur. A killer. They look like dinosaurs. First time I caught a pike, I'm like, why isn't this like the most exciting. thing to catch?

They fight hard. muskie. Jeez. I've never caught one of those. Me either. That's the fish that takes 10,000 casts. Yeah, see I'm not a I'm not that dude. Now, I'll I'll wait and hunt a hunt a. You know, I'm not a um Like I don't have. to have the biggest best animal. my whole life. Like I don't ro- You. know, some people they're like. They get into numbers. They're size. queens. Size Yeah, or score. I'm I'm not that. guy. I'm an experience. Let's have fun. Let's see a lot of animals. Let's catch. a a of fish. Let's keep a lot of action.

Yeah. Let's keep the kids engaged. You know, um. like when when my boys were you know, when my boys were four and five, I'd. take them You don't want to take them. out there on their first three bass. fishing trips and you you burn them in. the hot sun and they catch one fish. You want them. engaged. engaged and and get them get them going. But yeah, pike and all that that you. know, steelhead and that northwest. steelhead and.

catching one man, I I don't that's just. I hadn't done that. I can't do that. I. got. That's a release fish, too, right? Don't. they release them? are those are the. Yeah, those are high on the list of. especially like sea run steelheads. Mhm. You know, you have you have some that. are kind of locked in, you know, locked in the reservoir locked. You get. those those big sea run steelheads and. they they really hold them and they. should hold them in high regard. You. shouldn't. You need to leave those alone and let. them you know, let them come and go.

Yeah, but then why you catching them? You know what I'm saying? Why you [ __ ] with those fish? Cuz that's. It's a little bit of that. I get it. It's fun. I'm not opposed to it. I get. it, but if I catch fish, I like to eat. them. That's the whole reason why I'm catching. fish. Say that you know what? It's why I like to catch walleye. I would still say you're in the. majority. Yeah. Yeah, you're in. that's how it should be. I mean, imagine. if you just run around shooting deer.

with tranquilizer darts. Like I got him. Well, yeah. Little weird. Yeah, I I've I've seen. prove that you did it. Yeah, you know, and they make bumper, you know, they make bumper tips on bows. You can doink doink deer in the ass and. run them off and not you know, and then they're like, why are you. doinking a deer in the ass, you know? It's a little weird. It's like they make those club heads so. you could shoot squirrels and birds, you. know. Well, you know, man, listen, dude. I grew up you know, my little town of Leesburg, man, I mean,

every year I got a pellet gun for. Christmas. And I got a. I got a full. uh. camo onesie or a a a coverall and dude, I'd put my new pair of Chippewa hunting. boots, I'd put my new set of uh. I put my new set of coveralls on with a. camo pattern and I'd hit the. neighborhood walking around with a. pellet gun shooting the neighbor. squirrels. And you know, we we we'd eat them, you.

know, we'd eat them every now and then. This little old lady Mabel Coxwell, she. we'd skin them and she'd fry them with. some wild rice and. They taste good? If you cook a squirrel and do it right, man, it ain't nothing wrong with a. squirrel. Isn't that crazy that most people don't. know that? Right. Squirrels are delicious. Squirrel. hunting is not very popular in parts of. the South. squirrel dumplings. Yeah, it's. instead of chicken chicken and. dumplings, squirrel dumplings. Oh. You you You know, you get a squirrel and. clean it right and brine it for the. night and cook it with dumplings and put.

some onions and celery and all that and. you're you're off to the races. People think of them they have like. fluffy tail privilege. Rats, you know, rats with tails. Because you see a rat, rats have those. slimy tails and people are like, that's. disgusting. And they see that fluffy. tail, they're like, aw, so cute. Not much different. You know? Well, the the the fact that you know, the fact that yeah, I could run rampant. with a with. a 8-year 9-year-old through the. neighborhood riding my Honda 50.

motorcycle. you know, through people's backyards, you know, chasing squirrels and. everybody's like, thank you, that damn. thing's been in my attic chewing up my. my Pink Panther insulation for uh. That's rural life, right? That's rural. life. People Well, that's people that. understand what's going on. That's the difference between If you did. that in a a neighborhood in Manhattan, people are be "What the [ __ ] is this guy. doing? We need these squirrels.". If you they catch you in Central Park. with a pellet gun, you'd go to jail.

First first round ticket. First Yeah, do. not do not pass go, do not collect $200. If you break into a store and rob it, nothing will happen to you. They'll let. you right out. But if Yeah, but if you. get caught in Central Park shooting. squirrels and eating them, you're going. to get in real trouble. It's wild. We live in a wild world. It's. a very strange, distorted version of. what human beings have been experiencing. for most of history. No, I mean, nothing is wrong with. hunting a little bit. That's especially when 95% of the world.

eats meat. It's a stupid argument. Well, and I think, you know, I think. it's all trendy, too. I think the beauty. is now with the education of. you know, I mean, you look at. you know, you look at the how great, you. know, carnivore diets are being, you. know, I've never done like a big old. carnivore. Have you ever done a big. carnivore? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Did it change your life? Oh, yeah. That's mostly how I eat. Great. I eat fruit and meat. Great. 99%. I [ __ ] around. Like my daughter. likes to cook cookies. I had a big-ass.

cookie the other day. It was awesome. I. I mean, I'm not ridiculous. I'll eat. other things. I'm not religious about. it, but most of my diet, like 90%, is. just meat and occasionally fruit. Fruit. before I work out. Fruit sometimes after. I work out, but mostly it's just meat. Well, you know, like I said, the best thing. about what you do here is you give. everybody. their platform to talk about. their their way. Yeah. And and, you know, your platform has.

enlightened me. I mean, you know, dude, I've never. you know, I I was around some dude. that was talking about, you know, um. my cardosin mushrooms and all that. Dude, I I never saw a drug. I never saw a drug. until I was 30. Did you see moonshine? Saw moonshine a lot. That is a [ __ ] drug. Yeah, well, and you're right. I mean, you drink you drink a half jar of Mason,

you know, you. Oh, yeah, you got to die. That's the. crazy thing about alcohol is. It gets the best. thing We We are having nicotine right. now. This is a drug. And when I have these. It's a nice cigar, by the way. It's perfect. good, very mild. And man, when I I I was 39 years old. before I did any tobacco. Really? Never dipped. My dad kept Levi Garrett. Taylor's Pride. you know, the only time he wasn't. chewing meant he had a life insurance.

policy. He had to He had to He had to. get blood work and didn't want to fail. his life insurance policy. But I was 39. My mom, you know, my mom's. a My mom's a character. She, you know, but. um never did tobacco, never dipped. I. put one dip in one time and threw up. outside the outside my high school. This. old boy threw me a dip in. and did big old Kodiak and I threw up. outside the high school gymnasium and. missed my. fifth and sixth period and I was like, dude, I don't need that.

You remember those bricks, little. squares of chewing tobacco? You bite a. chunk off. old all the old and Well, what I was. getting at is I was sitting uh we were. celebrating of album release. I was 39. years old and one of my best buddies. brought a nice Davidoff Churchill cigar. And any cigar I'd ever done Now, I had. smoked a cigar like in Vegas and most. time back then, you know, I'd done drink. a handle of Crown and smoked cigar and.

you wake up the next morning and you're. like. you know, your life's over essentially. Well, it's probably the handle of Crown. Right. Well, we smoked that cigar and I sat in. my rocking chair. and just smoked that cigar and I was. like, man, this is kind of. It's kind of nice. This is kind of like therapy right here. people smoking cigars aren't stupid. It's got to be something to it. And they're chilled out. Yeah. They're you know. conversational. thing to do. They are universally. Yeah. chilled out. But it's a drug. Oh, let's.

It's a drug. Yeah, let's don't. We're drinking coffee, that's a drug. This This is The problem is there's a. lot of drugs and some of them are really. [ __ ] bad for you. Here's the deal. I and and. I'll call my buddy every now and then. that and he was my buddy that bought me. the cigar. He was a lifelong Copenhagen. and cigarettes here and quitting and I. called him. I'll call him periodically and I'm like. you [ __ ] I'm stopping at a grocery. I'm stopping at a random cigar shop.

I've gone 4 days without a cigar and I'm. riding down the road and I determine. right now I need one. You know, you. weave across four lanes of traffic, find. the you know, and then next thing you. know, you're smoking a grocery store I. mean a gas station cigar to just but. but hey, it keeps you keeps you keeps. the head clean. I like them. I I like I said, I think. it's one of the best things for. conversation. 12 of them a day, you know. No, I don't think so either, but I know. people who do. I know people who just go. one to the other. They just chain smoke.

cigars. Yeah. Now my mother, dude. Salem Ultra Light 100s, three packs a. day. Whoa. Four four Bud Lights a day her whole. life. Four Bud Lights. Every day. Is she still with us? She's with us. Damn, that's the thing that always gets. people. Dude. They're like, maybe I should quit. Hold. on. Well, Look at his mom. Well, listen, my mom, man, dude. she. Joe. she she's curbed the she's curbed the.

beer a little bit because she'll drink. her a couple O'Doul's, but she's going. to have her one or two Bud Lights. Every. day. Every day. She's going three packs. might she's but she's like a. You know, it's like if she's walking. into the to the to Dillard's or to the. TJ Maxx, she's like, "Oh my God, I'm. walking in. Take a couple of puffs. Take a couple and hit, you know, litter. the parking lot. But she'll she'll pan. fry a ribeye in butter.

Pan fries a ribeye. That's probably what's keeping her. alive. Pan fries a ribeye, fries some. shoestring french fries. And that's her damn meal four to five. nights a week. Four. 76 glorious years. That's probably why she's healthy. And is ready to chew my ass out at any. moment. And how many cigarettes do you think. she's down to a day? I I hope she's probably at a pack and a. half. But man, when you do the math, when I.

used to sit her down and do math, you. know, her and my my her and my dad were. married 32 years and divorced. And so. when she went out kind of on her own, I'd sit her down and do the math on four. Bud Lights, two and a half packs of. Salems, and. four pan fried ribeyes. It that's. becomes a damn number annually. I think the ribeyes are fine. Leave her. alone with the ribeyes. You know what? But through the years. I've gotten Miller Lite endorsements. I. I would get Miller Lite. Like a I'd be. like, "Mama,

there's a Miller Lite truck pulling up. to your house. It's going to deliver you. a pallet of Miller Lite. Just try. Just try to fall in love with Miller. Lite. Right? No, nope. Bud Light. I'd get home for, you know, get home two. months after the pallet got there. You know, there the pallet sits. Calling. my buddies, "Hey boys, A lot of people had like a personal. crisis when there was that Bud Light. boycott. There was a lot of people like, "I don't know what to do.

I don't know what to do." When Kid Rock. shot that Bud Light. And then he kept selling it IN HIS BAR. WE DRANK SOME. WE DRANK SOME ON THE. PODCAST we did together. Yeah, and I I love him. He let it go. after a while. He let it go. He did. I I love him. He He's been He's. been a a damn good buddy of mine and has. has come to my charity event. He's a wild boy. He's awesome. I love that dude. He's He's. He's a lot of fun. He's awesome. But when I saw him do. that, I was like, "Oof.". Imagine being the CEO of Bud Light and.

seeing that. You're like, "Oh, no.". Kid Rock just shot our beer. With a [ __ ] automatic. And was like, "Fuck Anheuser-Busch.". LIKE, "NO!". And I mean, that alone probably cost. them billions of dollars. Just having. him do that. beer Yeah, when our beer when our beer. is is political political, we're like, Not just our beer, but Bud Light. The Bud Light, the beer that sponsored. more boxing matches, more sporting.

events, more people have been drinking. Bud Light. I mean, think about all the. people who swear by Bud Light. Post. Malone's always drinking Bud Light. you know, my my wife's dad is a is a. Budweiser [ __ ] 12-pack-a-day dude, man. And, you know, he had to he had to. hear a little [ __ ] from his buddies. about it, but. People get in fights in bars. I have a. friend who owned a bar. We we stopped. carrying at the mothership cuz nobody. was buying it. We stopped carrying Bud. Light cuz nobody was buying Bud Light. Have we.

checked on where it. It's come back. Fully? No, I don't think so. I think there's a. bunch of holdouts that are always going. to go, "Fuck those liberals." forever. But the lady who came up with the idea. is gone. Like, the whole the whole. marketing team behind They're all gone. Anheuser-Busch is an American company. that has employed American people. forever. It's a great company. They just [ __ ]. up. They get caught up in the mind. virus. Anheuser-Busch taught us that beer is. wonderful for Christmas and Clydesdales. and Dalmatians are the equivalent of.

of Jesus and Christmas. Well, you remember those Bud Light guys, the real American genius guys? Remember. that? Yeah. American genius. They had great. commercials. Dude, I would cry over the Dalmatian. Clydesdale commercial. You remember when. the little the little puppy? Yeah. He's riding on the Clydesdales and. Find that, Jimmy. Oh, [ __ ]. It's like a freaking Hallmark. never think that that company could get. taken down.

But that just I think that was good. It. was bad for Bud Light, but I think it. was good. Here it is. Let's see it. We're going to get all sweet. Here we go. Oh, don't. Oh, the little puppy. Listen to that music. Oh, little puppy got out. Oh, poor puppy's lost. It's for beer.

It's for beer. Yeah. Poor little puppy. Wow, what a commercial. Who. We need to find Oh, god, wolves. They're. in Colorado. The horses saved the puppy from the.

wolves. Have a Bud. Very effective commercial, you know? Real quick. You're happy. and then there's the one where the it's. the Dalmatian, too, that that grew up. and then got to. the the old Dalmatian and the little, you know, they're riding the and the. young Dalmatian sees the old Dalmatian. and I think the old Dalmatian kicks the. bucket and then the new Dalmatian takes. its place and then you're like, oh my.

god, it's the best thing ever. Yeah. Well. And that company got taken out. By having a transgender woman on their. can. But it just shows you how prevalent this. whole mind virus is that it even got. into Bud Light which is just bizarre. But and then the the lady who's. responsible for it all. basically [ __ ] on the entire customer. base. You know, saying that they have a fratty. sense of humor and we need to update it.

make it more inclusive and like. do you know what you're saying? You're. alienating all the people that buy it. and love it and counting on people who. don't buy it and love it to start buying. it and loving it. And maybe that'll. work, but you just alienated everybody. who buys it and loves it. It's the. dumbest poker move of all time. The worst. It's the dumbest move. Well, you know, when you look at country. music, too. I mean, with country music,

I mean. it is what it is. There's things that it. is. and you got to you got to love on what. it is and then you got to grow it, too. I mean, there's there's sensible ways to. grow it and. But it has to be up to the artist just. express themselves honestly. And if the. artist is a country artist that has a. different perspective, let that be, but. leave all the rest of it the way it is, too. Buddy, the it with every successful. music artist that's ever lived. it it they may have faked you out.

They any any genre, but country is even. country's tough. Because once you show any un un. unauthenti- unauthenticity. Yeah. Buddy, you're you're done. You're done. I can imagine. Like, dude, I mean. Yeah. Like, dude, my biggest like when I. Man, you know, I got. My thing was tight jeans.

You wouldn't imagine me wearing tight. jeans on stage how much that piss pisses. people. Well, it's cuz you're handsome. That's part of the problem. You're a. good-looking guy. Up there in tight. jeans. Shaking ass. Shaking that ass, showing that bulge. Get out of here. Dude, and then I'm like. Bring back Merle Haggard. What the [ __ ]. is this? So, Joe, you know, one thing, you know. My biggest. My biggest hurdle ever in my my career.

And it it still breaks my heart to this. day. I you know, back when I. My only way to. Your only way to make it in music. is. you've got to stop people's eyeballs on. you. You got to grab them. vocally, visually. musically different.

You got to get them to stop for 2. seconds and go, "What What is that What. is that [ __ ] doing right there?". And when I came out with "Country Girl. Shake It for Me". on the. on the CMAs shaking my ass. I mean, I had to do it that way. In my opinion, I had to go, "This is my. moment to show "Country Girl Shake It. for Me" and I'm the guy that dances and.

and don't give a damn and let's have. some fun and come along for the ride.". And it was amazing. It was amazing. You know, the fact that I'm a Georgia. boy at the time and I was talking to. Texas people. I was talking to. everybody. Well, then. at some point a label for me came became. bro country. Uh. Had you ever even heard that term? I did because of you. Yeah. Well, so I heard it and I'm like, well, bro.

country. Well, then I started seeing the. people making fun of bro country and I'm. like, this is kind of [ __ ] pissing me. off. And then. And then me and some other artists start. getting looped into this bro country. phase. Well, I. when I was in my form of coming up as an. artist and I don't even know, we can we. don't have to live on this long, but. you'll be amazed, dude. So, I would go. play I I I made my way by going to.

Georgia and playing Georgia college. towns. In the Southeast and even I played. Auburn a little bit, Auburn, Alabama. And that that school I never I I always. wanted to break into Auburn and. Tuscaloosa because I was always a. Georgia artist. Well, I started. branching out. Well, dude, I'd get done. with a college party. I'd walk off stage. The first thing that. would happen. is.

uh you know, 369 damn she fine give it. to me to give it to me one more time. Get low. Get low. I mean, and right when my set got done, hip hop. the the the the the vibe went to. a night club. And I'm standing I'm at. the I done walked off the stage, went to. the bar, ordered the beer, and watched. everybody that just let me play Merle. Haggard, Johnny Cash,

all the classics, my couple of new. songs. And I was like, well, man, this. is nobody's got a [ __ ] problem with. this. This is This is We're all together. in this good time. So, when I did. "Country Girl Shake It for Me", that. made that tie crossover. It combined them. It made it tie to a little bit. And then. Jason Aldean had his. um "She's Country". [ __ ] biggest song. When I heard I.

mean at the time when Jason and I are. buddies, he does "She's Country", I do. "Country Girl Shake It for Me", and he. Me and him are like. we're like this [ __ ] Our lives are. I mean I toured with Jason one year and. he broke all of Elvis's indoor records. We did it for 2 years. I was the opener. and Jason was the headliner and people. and and rap was We were playing rap. before the show.

and and everybody was in Well, then. Broke Country comes along. Dude. I wake up on the bus one morning and I. got this interview. Sitting there drinking my coffee in my. [ __ ] underwear and this dude calls me. with Hits magazine. And he goes, "Well, Luke, you know, man, this Broke Country thing.". And I said, "Well, well, hold up, buddy. Here. Here's what this is.".

And I said. and man, I did this and I made one fatal. error. And at the time, Joe. no one hated my ass. I believe that. I. mean I did I cuz I was coming to Billy. Bob's. playing. and and well, I had Texas, I had the the. I had the I had a. I'd go to I'd go to Bozeman, Montana and. play "Country Girl Shake It for Me". I'd go to everywhere. Well, and I said,

"Man, I don't know. how to be an outlaw. I'm not an outlaw. I That ain't I'm a. I'm a college dude that played frat. parties country music. I play I was. like, I [ __ ] did not go sit in a. prison cell like Merle Haggard and write. songs about guys going to death row. And. I didn't go to Folsom Prison. And man, I.

said I I listed all the I list I was. like, I'm not like Willie Nelson. I. don't do Willie Nelson they are they're. outlaws. And I said, "If it's bro. country and that's what I'm labeled as.". I said, "And where I [ __ ] up as I. said, I haven't wo- I haven't spent the. night like sleeping on the street.". And I didn't say like Johnny Cash's song. Sunday Morning Coming Down. That's what I meant. I just didn't tie. it. Well, that dude took that article.

and said, "Luke Bryan says outlaw. country people. are. they basically. uh drug addicts that sleep in the. street." And man, I pissed that whole. that the way they manipulated that. story, I lost that whole crowd right. there. Wow. Broke my heart. And Way- like I think. Waylon Jennings' daughter went real. public with being I mean, she was. [ __ ] mad at my ass. And dude, she went on there going, "You. know, Luke, my dad never laid." And I.

never meant that. I just meant. Yeah, Waylon was in there, too. But we. all know what all those guys are because. we got to watch all the documentaries. about those guys. And we got to be. students of those guys. the problem with interviews. It's first. of all, they're trying to get you. What your interviews are the beauty. Well, and you no one's no one's gotten. popped more than you because they'll. take our. Man, I hope we sit here and [ __ ] for. 3 hours, but they'll take your 5. minutes.

Right. Out of context. And now they'll AI you. That's happening a lot. So, well, the So, what happened, man? That thing started growing. And man, I. had motorcycle gangs wanting to burn my. house down. I had. Oh my god. When when you get misrepresented in. that type of deal, and then the the. subcategories of. articles, then the article of the. article of the article. was this? Man, I I don't know. We I don't It was. probably 2012 or 13.

So, this was when social media was not. as impactful. It was becoming. Was YouTube even around then? Yes, and clickbait, the world of. clickbait was was getting getting. rocking. Right. But what So, what I did is man, I called. Waylon Jennings' daughter and and said. I said, "Man, I I just forgot to say. like the like the Kris Kristofferson. song Sunday Morning Coming Down. That's.

all I meant by that.". And I think she accepted I called what I. I text Willie. He sent me the best reply. He goes, He goes, "It's okay to step on your. dick, just don't stand on it.". I called Jessie Waylon I called Jessie. Colter, and she goes, "Luke, what did. you mean in the interview?" And I told. her. And she goes, "Waylon stopped doing. print interview.". And uh. And. It was and then but by then, the the the.

narrative started. And since then, I can all I can always tell that. if if that one little thing, I probably. would have kept that whole base. And then the oh my god, he wears tight. jeans, and he must you know, he must. homosexual on on side, you know. As I'm As I'm posing with my my my you. know, my all-American family. I think it's probably a thing also they. think Hollywood has invaded country.

music, which is always a big threat. because there's so much money in country. music that they think these Hollywood. executives that don't understand or. appreciate real country are going to. come in and make something inauthentic. So then they hear you saying that, get. misrepresented, and then they take it as. a part of all that, right? Joe laugh. So my album came out. I. I I I I put I. worked on an album for 3 years. It's. called Mind of a Country Boy, and I put. it out like first of October. And I didn't want to put the damn album.

out. because. the reality is this, I'm not at the. height when you every artist hits their. peak, every you know it. I mean, I sold. out. I was selling out football stadiums. first day. 3 or 4 years I did it. I know. that's my peak, probably. I know it is. [ __ ] I'm not going to even say. probably. I'm a realist. Well, so we put the album out, and I. said, you know what? The album's No. album sell. Nothing sells anymore, so.

I knew there was going to be a negative. take on the album. I knew something. negative would come by me putting the. album out based on it may not sell. And. it it sold what it would did it didn't. do it did what I thought it'd do. As me. being the artist where I'm at in my. life. Especially in this world of streaming. Right. Nothing's buying anymore. Nothing's buying. Well, dude, I did 20, 40 I did 40 hours of. 40 hours of. uh you know, all the stuff. The.

What What's happened is because of. online advertising being the primary. source of income for news, they have to. do clickbait [ __ ] They have to distort. things, and then they have editors that. don't give a [ __ ] about anything other. than the bottom line. So you get a. writer, even if the writer's a good. person. I've had writers that I know. have written about people that I know. and they told me that their editor came. in and changed things. They're told me. they told me their editor came. editor's ass is about to get canned. Yeah, exactly. Because they his company just got bought. by big conglomerate.

Exactly. That. That's why artists should just stay away. from that [ __ ]. Well, and I you do and I knew it. What. sucks. Yeah. is that dude, I you know, you you know. it. You know when you're getting baited. Yeah. You can see it coming a mile away. You have to film everything you do. Every conversation you have with. someone, you should film them all so. that no one can take you out of context. and then if anything goes wrong, say. that guy's full of [ __ ] This is what I. said. I did and then I did. even make a video. I did. And those people should be shamed. It's.

a ter- it's a terrible evil ugly thing. you do. You crush people's perspective. You change how the world looks at people. just for clickbait. And it could it. could genuinely affect someone's life. and career. listen. You know the deal. I mean, I grew up in. South Georgia. and. you know, we've raised our dang kids. like color blind. It's so awesome. I'm. so proud of their color blindness. Isn't it funny that that is a negative.

thing to say today? That people don't. like that idea. Did I just say something negative? Yeah, there's a lot of people that don't. think you should be color blind. They think you that that's a lie. See, I thought that way. That was what we were all working. towards until about 2012. Have you ever seen like the numbers I'm. going to I'm going to send you this. Jamie because this is what people need. to understand. A lot of what we're all. experiencing is manipulation and a lot. of this manipulation. might not even be from our own country.

A lot of this manipulation is what. happens when you have foreign entities. that are manipulating people. Oh yeah, that's it. Thank you. Look at. that. Jamie, you're the best. Yearly mentions of prejudice in popular. US news media outlets. Now, look at what. happens. Look at this crazy spike. So, you have everything from 1970. until you have like 1990. See, what's. going on in 1990 between 80 and 90? You. have cable, okay? So, now you have.

people that need more eyes on their. [ __ ] So, you have Fox News. You have a. lot of this You have people that get a. little bit more jazzed up. Look at. transphobia. You never even heard what. the [ __ ] that was until 2010. Look at. Look how it just jumps up in 2020. In. 1990, it didn't exist. 1980 didn't. exist. Islamophobia, same deal. Anti-Semitism, scroll all the way up to. the top though, Jamie. So, look at racism. Racism is essentially fairly steady.

until around 2012. And then it goes on. this wild. ramp straight up. The New York Times, from 2010 to 2020, it goes up 712%. Los Angeles Times, 756%. It just skyrockets, all the mention of. racism. Why? Because no one wants. racism. No one wants to be racist. Everyone's scared of being called. racist. And all the race hustlers love.

to call people racist. So, it becomes a. commodity. So, people start chain. trading in racism. And this idea that. you shouldn't be color blind. And then. you should recognize race. You should. recognize color. And then they go Stop. We were on a We were on a good path to. what Martin Luther King said, judging. people by based on the content of their. character. We were on that path. And. social media and manipulation [ __ ] us. And hopefully we realize what happened. now. And I think there'll be a downward. trend and people will sort of like wake.

up. And uh I think that is That's one. thing that is balancing out right now. with the internet. There's enough are. realizing they've been manipulated, so. it's starting to like calm down. A lot. of this woke [ __ ] starting to die off. And it's people are coming to their. senses. Like Like everybody just woke up. from a fever dream. But as far as your situation and dealing. with the media, don't. Oh, I know. Just don't. Yeah, but when you're so dang You know the. deal. You. You're a little bit naive cuz you're a. nice guy. But it's because you're a good. person. That's why you're naive. You.

assume other people are good people. is when I'm at on American Idol that. desk. and I've been doing it for nine damn. years. And I have cried with everybody. When those kids come in, they are. Everybody walking through that door is a. microcosm of America. And man, I've sat there and loved and. loved and learned. Do you Do you enjoy doing that? Like. seeing new talent pop up? Nothing is more.

amazing. than watching a broken kid with with. with that's been told. they're not good. And they come from everywhere. They It. could be the. Man, the the craziest thing is the is. the is the kids that were raised in the. homes of doctors. That the doctor family can't wrap their. head around my child wanting to go try. this [ __ ] music thing. What? Well,

you're You're doctors. We're doctors. And man, when they branch out and the. family gets behind them and then they go. and follow their dreams and man, it's. really. Yeah, it doesn't get old. I mean, listen. I mean, it's a fun chair to be. in. It's a fun chair to be in because. that door opens and it's a it's a life. that comes in and you don't know what. the hell. You know, we we have a note or two like.

you know, just lost their father to. cancer 3 months ago. You know, from a. small town, but other than that, man, we. don't know what they're going to do and. how they're going to react. And it's. pretty cool. I mean, you know, when and. and and when I just moved to Nashville. when uh American Idol was. just. I mean, 40 million viewers a week. And the the you know, the the the tone. in Nashville is that's the cheap route. to get famous cuz I I I came up through.

you got to play a thousand nightclubs. You got to go you got to go through you. got to meet the record labels, you got. to do the radio, you got to go meet. everybody at radio. So, the whole town. of Nashville was like, well, it's not. totally fair that they get to just pop. on TV and and. and sir you know, and and skip all the. but now, I mean, now. all that's gone, which is great. an example. Oliver Anthony. Totally. Oliver Anthony has one song he releases.

It's the most. Pull up that song because this [ __ ]. song, this dude releases it and it's. just a camera and him with his guitar. it I was like, holy [ __ ] That's [ __ ]. amazing and holy [ __ ] That guy better. have some songs to come behind it. Yeah, well, he's a talented. [ __ ] I don't know. He's a very, very bright man. And it's what life should.

Listen to that. Damn shame. Listen to that. This dude was selling. equipment. He never even done a concert. First. concert he does is like 18,000 people at. a state fair. And he's as genuine as you can. You've had him on here, correct? I had him on here and I actually gave.

him advice. How did he do? He did great because I gave him advice. before I met him. Cuz he was in the. middle of all this and he goes, "Hey. man, he goes, can I talk to you?" So we. talked on the phone. I'm like, "What's. up?" He's like, "Man, I'm getting all. these offers from all these people. They. want to buy this and buy that and they. want to give me $7 million if I do this. and sign that." I said, "Stay. independent." I go, "You have talent.". Everyone's saying I have to act now. I. go, "Fuck those people." I go, "You. don't have to act now. That's famine. thinking." I go, "You're talented, man.". And I had to heard a couple of his other. songs as well. He's [ __ ] talented and.

he's genuine. And I go, "You can't fake. that." Just stick stick stay. independent, man, because they're not. going to offer you anything. Those. people are just going to They're The. reason why they want to give you a lot. of money is cuz they're going to make. way more than they're going to give you. That's the only reason why they want to. give you money. They want a piece of you. before you become one of the biggest. stars in the world and then they own a. chunk of you forever because they gave. you $7 million when you didn't have any. money. I go, "Just bank on yourself, man.". Yeah, and guys, you know, the beauty of.

Idol is is. and and guys like this, there's so many. avenues now. You can go the. old-fashioned route, you can go the. quick route, you can go the Idol route, you can go stream on. you know, you can go video yourself on. all your social platforms and the right. song can blow you up but then and then. you got to go do the real work. You got to do the real work. You got to. have other other. other bullets in your chamber. That's what we tell the kids on Idol. now. I think when Idol was really really. obviously when Kelly Clarkson and and.

Carrie Underwood won and and even people. after that, they went they still they. went their ass to work, too. And. It's an insane opportunity. It's insane. Yeah, and and you know, these kids on Idol now, they love seeing. their their social media platforms. go up 1,000% and it's worth it and you. know, we you know, and and there's going. to be bumps in the road, and it's you. know, it's still. uh you know, it's still uh. you know, there there's going to be a.

uh you know, a group of people saying, you know, American Idol may exploit. these kids. But man, I'm in the back I'm behind the. scenes on everything, and man, we we. won't you know, they won't. when we get a kid that. we love, man, we sit around, we go to. dinner, and we talk about that kid and. love them. And and these I think you. know, these kids um. leave it going, man, that was a great. experience for them. I hope so, but you. know, I'm sure they do. And it is an insane.

opportunity. If you want to be a. professional musician, and you want to. make a career out of it, it's one of the. most unbelievable moments. You got to do your path. Yeah. You got My path was my path, and it was. unique to mine, and because yours is. different, that don't mean I need to. hate you for it. There's a lot of that [ __ ] with. comedians today, too. Oh. Cuz a comedian will have one clip where. he's doing some crowd work, or one clip. of one bit that everybody loves, then. all of a sudden he's selling out, and. everybody's like, that guy. He only had one good joke.

Yeah, he's only been around for 3 years, but so what? He Let him run with it. Let. him run with it. You know, it's it's uh we're living in a. new world. It's like the song. It is a. new world. Why wouldn't we all want someone else to. win? Right. What is wrong. What's wrong with people winning? It's. like you have figured out how to feed. yourself with a guitar? Yeah. You have figured out how to tell jokes?

Yeah. And make a living? And. And you know, all like, man, like I. said, dude, I won't even post my damn. deer I killed. Cuz I don't want to I don't want to get. online and be there with a glass of wine. at 3:00 a.m. and start [ __ ]. people. Like dude, I. I WANT TO I WANT TO KILL THEM. AND I I YEAH. You and like I said, you.

get over it you get over it but man it. pisses you off. I I don't read anything. I I tell. everybody don't read anything. Don't. read anything about you. Just don't. Don't read the good stuff. Don't read. the bad stuff. with it and I mean hell I mean I'm. sitting down with a 48 year old man. My shit's in the bank but it still makes. you mad. It still makes you mad. It doesn't. matter even if you're undeniable. It. doesn't matter. It's a human It's a. human instinct to read negative things. and get upset cuz humans always had to.

worry about threats. And if the threats. were other tribes or predators or. whatever. to attack that threat. So we're always we're mentally. conditioned to look for threats. It's a. fight or fight or flight or. Yeah. Well it's also it's like if you have a. hundred people who love you but one that. hates you. That one is the one you're. going to think about. You're not going. to think all the people that take they. say you're awesome. You're going to. think about that one that hates you. And. then you have to think about the kind of. people that post comments. Most of the. people who post comments are miserable. people. Not the positive comments but. the negative comments.

I started a thing you know and I know. you got people in your world where. Man you know there's [ __ ] and you'll. huddle up and you'll spend an hour. talking about how you can't believe how. big a [ __ ] that person is. And I'm like guys we're 15 minutes in on. talking about this person being an. [ __ ]. We wasted 15 minutes of our life. 15 minutes on. all of us trying to figure out why can't. they stop being an [ __ ]. You basically wasted 1/100 of your day.

On somebody that. On somebody that sucks. You only get 100. of those 15 minutes in a day and you. wasted one talking about a [ __ ]. It's a mess but it's a normal thing that. people do. You just got to not do it. You got to realize this is a new world. wear when I see. when I see other buddies doing it and. I'm like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.". Get out of there. Yeah. Man. I recognized it when I was on television. before social media. There was a thing. called um. the There was these Hollywood magazines.

like Variety and the Hollywood Reporter. and I would always call them the devil's. rag because I would get to the set of. the TV show and everybody was reading. the devil's rag. They were all like, "Oh, I can't believe they're number two. We should be number one. We should be. right after Friends. Oh." And they would. Everybody was upset and I was like, "You. guys are. I'm on TV. I don't know what the [ __ ] is. wrong with you people. I'm on. television. I can't believe I'm on TV. Are you guys are upset that we're number.

30 instead of number two or whatever the. [ __ ] it is? Can't we just appreciate the. fact that This is back when there was. only like five networks. Can we. appreciate the fact that we're one of. the luckiest human beings that have ever. lived? We're on a [ __ ] television. show and yet you're reading these. magazines and it's like Is it Thomas. Jefferson who wrote that quote, 'Comparison is the thief of joy'? But. whoever was that? Was it Jefferson? I. know we know who it We read it before, but that quote is so accurate. Comparison It's That's why billionaires. I I know a dude is worth like a billion.

and a half dollars and he thinks he's. broke because he's friends with like. Jeff Bezos. I do not get into that. You cannot get. into that world. There You can't win. You can't win cuz. you're in a crazy [ __ ] numbers. race and it doesn't mean anything. You're not even enjoying what you have. So my wife for her 40th birthday, man, I surprised her and I rented her. um never done anything. We went rented. like a 120-ft boat and took all her.

college friends down to Saint Barts for. New Years. Have you ever heard of this. scene? No. Dude. Is it crazy? Joe. So, first of all, I mean, this boat that we got is a 120-ft. Westport. Beautiful. We get the same boat. I. didn't know what the [ __ ] we were doing. Oh, you're in the yacht world. Okay. So, you're entering into these worlds of. 200-ft boats, 250-ft boats.

oligarchs. Yeah. Okay. Uh yeah, I've seen that. before. And it's in Saint Barts, and they all. float They all float there for. New Year's. Uh-huh. And it's all dick measuring. contest. Dude. And my captain of that little boat, which that boat looked like. our boat that we were on looked like. their shuttle boats. Right. And I My captain I said, "Did you ever. pilot one of those?" He goes, "Oh, yeah.". He goes I said, "What What the What were.

they doing on there?" He goes, "Looking. at the other boats wondering.". I said, "That dude is on a [ __ ]. billion-dollar yacht and pissed at the. other billion-dollar yacht.". Yeah, that's real. They're all in. competition with each other, and they're. all hating. You know, and and I'm entering in Yeah, you just got to get your little world. like my little world now. My little Tennessee hunting world. I. tell people all the time. They're like, "COME ON DOWN TO MY. RANCH." I'M LIKE, "MAN, I got I got my. little deal.". Yeah. It's enough. Stay sane.

Keep it tight. What are they doing on that boat, captain? Isn't that nuts? Imagine being on a. 250-ft yacht looking at the dude on the. 300-ft yacht going, "God damn it. I got. to upgrade.". I was talking to a dude who pilots. yachts, and he was telling me that they. they always want to sell them. They. always want to sell them and get another. one. He goes, "All these yachts are. always almost for sale." I go, "How. come?" He goes, "Cuz they're always. wanting another yacht. They always want. a bigger yacht.". It's a trap. It's a giant trap. Imagine.

having all that money you're not even. appreciating it cuz you're worried about. making more. Remember when we were kids, if you said. do you like what would you do if you had. a million dollars? Man, never work. again. I'd [ __ ] just. Well, you know, I remember dreaming. Did you Did you lay in bed and just be. like. I remember dreaming about trying to do. it and how how I was going to. How are you going to get rich? How am I going to get. I wouldn't say rich. How am I going be. able to have my own little my own bass.

pond. Right. Cuz I would have to call other people. and get permission. Right. And that dude, the anxiety of calling. old farmer. Right. going, "Hey, you know, Farmer Johnson, can I go fish your bass lake?". "I don't know, Luke. Not today.". I'd be like, And so, I I remember doing that and then. when you start achieving it, man, I I. still I mean, I I don't I don't think. it's I don't think I'm living in that. world of like the other. Right. You know, I think you can for a minute.

Yeah. I think it can I think you can for a. little bit like. a trap. It is a trap. And the problem is it's all numbers. Num- It's like, you know how dudes are. crazy with deer? Like I want a 200-in. deer. 200-in mule deer. I want a 400-in. elk. They get crazy with numbers. You. know, I talked to this dude who worked. on a ranch and they they have big elk on. this ranch and he said sometimes the. counters are really happy with an elk. and then they'll put a tape to it and. measure it and it's 396 and they get. bummed out cuz it's not 400.

I'm like, those people are sick. You. should never have them here again. You. should boik- ban them. They should never. be allowed to be here again. That's a. sickness. But that's what happens with. these people with everything, man. I. never had a dream of being wealthy. It. was never a dream. It was never even an. Never even in my imagination did I ever. think I was going to be rich. I never. even thought about it. I When I started. doing stand-up comedy, my dream was to. be a professional cuz I always had jobs. My dream was to be able to pay my bills.

with comedy. I looked at all the dudes. Yeah, that was Now, my dream Yeah, let. me make sure I didn't steer you wrong on. that. My My dream was to to do these. things out of being driven. Like write a number I mean, when I moved. to Nashville, I wrote on a chalkboard, write a number one song. You know, win a win a CMA award, you know, Oh, so you had a little vision board. a little vision board. Nice. But. I I didn't understand I didn't really uh.

comprehend. the money after that, cuz I didn't know. it. And I didn't know like. Like people are like I'm a big Georgia. Bulldog fan. And they're like, "Did you go to. Georgia?" And I'm like, "Buddy, me going to the University of. Georgia when I was 18 years old, I mean, I I barely My dad barely got the. money for me to go to the community. college 12 minutes down the road. So, going to Georgia didn't. Wasn't even a thought. even put it in there.

Right. So, but go ahead. I'm just saying that. when I see people that that's all they. care about is the money, and then. they're always thinking about the. richness and the I just think it's a. trap. And it The problem is if you're. always comparing yourself to other. people, you're not going to enjoy what. you have. You're not going to enjoy this. experience, temporary experience of. life. Right. You know? Cuz it is temporary. It's so quick. I'm 57 years old. How the. [ __ ] did that happen? All of a sudden, you just keep getting older.

And then, you know, one day you're dead. And. I bet on your deathbed, you're like, "How did it happen so quick? How did it. happen so quick?" What are you doing. with your time? And are you enjoying it? And I think you need things outside of. what you do that you love. And like for. you and I, I think it's hunting and the. outdoors, cuz I think it balances you. I. think there's something very spiritual. about it. I think there's something just. being in the woods is it's a very. spiritual experience, like a real. spiritual experience. Like there I think.

it's like a vitamin that you don't know. you need until you get it. And when you. get it, you feel better. When I'm out. there, I feel better. I just feel. better. I'm like the air is cleaner. I. feel more in touch with being alive. It. just feels better. And I think I'm not. thinking about anything else. When I'm. If I'm elk hunting, I'm not thinking. about jokes and I'm not thinking about. podcast guests. I'm not thinking about. jack [ __ ] I'm just thinking about what. I'm doing. That's it. It's and it's it's. very difficult to do and it's it's you.

have to really focus and you're thinking. about it and you're always trying to. improve and this that alone is good for. your brain. It's good for your life. I lost you know, I lost my brother and. my sister and my sister's husband passed. away. And man, when. and then yeah, it [ __ ] I lost my brother. at 26, my sister at 39 and her husband. died at 45. And man, it is present. The the daily.

appreciation of this deal. Yeah. is. visually present. Isn't that crazy about people though? It's like you almost people need to lose. something to be able to appreciate what. you have. Well, and I tell people. man, you know, you you meet I tell. people man, really be careful because if. you make it to 80, you're going to get you're going to get. popped with something. I don't think you. can get through this thing. Like some kind of a disease or. something? No, no, I don't I'm saying you're going.

to lose something. You're going to lose. something dear. You're not going to get. through A to Z without really a hard. a hard loss. No, that's it's just a part of life. And but some people man, they're just. delusional. Well, they're delusional and then a lot. of people are medicated, too. So, that. they don't even know what the [ __ ] is. going on while they're living this life. They're living this life under the. influence of the pharmaceutical drug. companies and they're just floating.

through life in a haze and they don't. even know what's happening while it's. happening. And then they get to the end. And then. what you do? What you do? Did you help. people? Did you make people feel better? Did you inspire people? Did you enrich. people's lives? What you do? You know? And then then you. have to realize like god damn I wasted a. lot of time reading comments. Thank you. Thank you for doing that. Wasted a lot of time getting mad at. [ __ ]. I don't do it bad though. That's what's. funny. I don't do it bad but.

that. Everybody says they don't look at. their phone. You know, let me see your. screen time. Like 6 hours. Jesus, [ __ ]. What the [ __ ] you doing? Oh, lord. Yeah, man. I mean. Well, we're all this is a new world, too, in terms of that. I keep saying. this is a new world but there really is. a new element to to our lives is this. social media element. And I think. there's not a lot of. stuff that's written on it where people. understand. Yeah, we're learning and yeah. We're. learning in real Yeah, we're the we're.

the lab rats. We really are. Especially our kids. Our. kids really are the lab rats. The we The. kids really are. And not just that also. access to violence. They see so much. violence. They see so much online that's. horrible. Think about. I think about this all the time. I would go stay with a buddy. at his house. and he go "Man, I rented Faces of. Death.". Remember those?

I wouldn't watch them. I'd be like, "Man, my parents told me. not to watch that.". He go, "What? You don't watch this guy. get electrocuted?". And I'm like. "Fuck no, I don't want to watch a dude. get electrocuted, dude. We're watching people. We're watching people. they're. it's. Yeah, if you're on Instagram you're. seeing people dying. Every. Every day. Every day I have friends that send me. horrible.

breaking? Oh yeah, every. I mean I remember Joe Theismann. when Joe Theismann broke his leg. Dude, it like shut the country down. Yeah. I know now that's nothing. And now it's like. I watched a dude on a diving board and. his foot fell in a crack in the dive. diving board had an opening in it and he. went forward and his knee stayed in the. same place and it just snapped his leg. the wrong way and he's screaming hanging. from a broken leg. That's just one thing I saw today.

I thought you don't do that. I I watch things on Instagram. I just don't read comments. But uh me. and Tom Segura we send each other the. most horrible [ __ ] every day. It's ridiculous. But some days that he sends me things I. don't even look at them. I'm like not. today. Oh, I could see it coming but I do love. I do love the funny comical aspect of it. that gets me and a cup of coffee dying. laughing at some person being a. goofball. memes. Oh. Some memes memes are some of the best.

memes out there. got us. Yeah, memes are some of the best comedy. out there. And it's just random people. create these funny things. There's a lot. of funny people out there. amazing is we've gotten to where we can. see the meme happen and predict the meme. and the meme's on your phone. Yep. the next day and you're like. Within hours. They're so quick. And memes are weird because a lot of. times you don't even know who made it. You're sharing it. Somebody sends it to. you, you send it to other people. Like. who got who made that? Who's the wizard. that figured this out? It's some [ __ ]. hilarious stuff. It's like a meme factory.

Well, it's like jokes. You remember. jokes like you know, two guys walking. into a bar, those jokes? Who [ __ ]. wrote those? We don't know but some of. them were bangers. And they spread. They just spread. Spread across the. whole country, but somebody had to be. the guy that sat down and tells the. story. Two guys walk into a bar. And. then, you know, You know how. Um. Well, I mean, there was a million places we can go, but. it's you know, you look at. Yeah, I mean, the damn children, my.

kids, I mean, we're yelling at them. every day. Get up, get off the phone, Yeah. get out. So, they do a good job, but. man, I I think it's just. it's a part of it's part of their deal. They're being influenced by things far. beyond our control and way different. than anything that any other generation. has ever experienced before. Like my son, um he's a 16-year-old quarterback. And man, he watches all these other. quarterbacks. on on you know, hell, there are 14.

recruiting. uh. download sites from that that and my. son's like, that dude right there is the. greatest quarterback. in the country. I said, "Well, how old. is he, Bo?". He's 15, Dad. I'm like, "Bo, we don't know what that little shit's. going to be. What What are you talking about?" He. goes, "Well, Dad, he's a five-star and. he's 15." I'm like, "Bo, your dad, when I moved to. Nashville,

I was a one-star country singer. If I'd have had a rating next to me and. probability of me making it, yeah, I. wouldn't it would have been a one-star. I worked myself into a hopefully a. three-star. Right. three-star recruit. And he's looking me. like I'm crazy. And so, one of those kids, he play he played them. Now, my son's. not starting, he's back up quarterback. to a great quarterback, and. we played them and we beat them.

We get down, he gets home after the. game. I said, "What did you think about your your. little savior there?". He goes, "He's still the greatest quarterback of. all time." I said, "Boy, WE LOST THE. [ __ ] GAME! He's 15! Just son, let it let let's let life. happen before we anoint. Yeah. You know. Just be inspired. Be inspired by other. success. But don't take it too seriously.

And also recognize that kid might start. getting laid and throw it all away. Exactly. He He don't know what's going. to you know. Yeah, you're 15, you don't know what the. [ __ ] coming your way. know what Yeah. Yeah, you run into some Russian chick in. your English class. Yeah, some new Russian exchange student. that that needs a that needs an English. tutor. Yeah, then all all of a sudden you don't. have any sperm left in your body and. you're dehydrated all day long. Yeah, you're you're you're getting. electrolytes on the sideline and. You're not doing any off-season running. or lifting. You're busy.

Also, people just they lose the focus, you know? And sometimes they get pushed. too hard by the parents. There's a. little bit of that, too. The kids rebel, they don't want to do it anymore. Anything can happen. But that's what's. fascinating about life is that it's all. open. Your daughters are. uh how old now? 28, 16, and 14. Yeah, the 16 and 14, man. The 16 and 14 are going through a. totally different experience. The. The Tik Tok all girls. You have a girl Girls are way I mean, I.

just. They're way more influenced in a. negative way. My heart aches for for girls in this uh. in this. Well, there's a there's some. alarming statistics about the growth of. social media from like 2009 where you. see girls with self-harm, all sorts of. psychological conditions, online. bullying cuz girls are [ __ ] vicious. to each other online. Boys will run into. each other and punch each other in the. face. Yeah. But girls will attack each others. character and they'll they're reputation.

destroyers. And they love to like make up stories. about girls and be mean about girls and. talk [ __ ] about the way girls look and. the way girls dress and the guys girls. are dating and they do it to each other. and it's just. it's unfortunate but it's that's what. gossip used to be. Gossip used to just. be talking though. It's like a normal. thing where girls get around and talk. but now they talk online and when they. talk online then other people read it. like. and you're ruining people's lives. You're ruining little girls lives and. suicide is off the charts and self harm.

is off the charts and mostly young girls. are getting affected by it. When when you have when when I have my. 14 year old go dad I'm anxious about. this. I'm like. I didn't know the word anxious. Right. I didn't know the word anxious. until I was 35 years old. Right? Right. Right. It wasn't thought when we. were kids in high school. as anxiety. It was processed as like. Life. Yeah, I'm. Getting nervous. Yeah. I mean yeah. Yeah. I got a big.

test. My stomach hurts. I got to go take. a [ __ ]. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Right. Now it's the thing they think. about all the time and the problem with. that is Abigail Shrier wrote a book. about this. You focus on your problems. your problems often times become bigger. When you think about things like anxiety. guess what? It makes you more anxious. It it doesn't help it. It it actually. has the opposite effect. Yeah, it's a weird world but. they're going to be okay. We're all. going to be okay. We're just going to. have to adjust and figure it out on the. fly. It's just this this adjustment is. bigger than any adjustment that any.

generation's ever had to make before. But it's also like look at things like. Oliver Anthony. Good comes out of it. too. Yeah. You know, Jelly Roll. Jelly Roll. Jesus. Love that dude. Best thing ever. He's one of my favorite human beings. ever. Best thing. He's such a [ __ ] sweetheart. Best thing ever. When that guy sang that song Save Me and. everybody was like what is going on? This This [ __ ] ex-con with tattoos on. his face with a voice like an angel.". Best thing ever. Incredible. But that's This is all possible today,

too. So, you got good and you got bad. It's just you got to navigate the. waters. You got to know where the rocks. are. Steer that boat, young sailor. You know, and. what amazes me is is. Man, what breaks my heart is when people. think they're all alone in their. thing that's hanging up their life. Right. When you meet somebody. and it's all scaled.

way differently. Like when you meet. you know, uh. you know, I I I've had people, you know. you know, when you when you grow up in a. country music band and you're on the bus. for hours with buddies. and everybody go They got their own life. and then, man, I you find out. I had one band member almost kill. himself over something. that if he'd have just. had somebody to say, "Man, I have that, too.". Right. Right. And he would have not felt alone.

Right. And and people have got to quit like. thinking that they're the only ones. that have. gone through some [ __ ]. gone through this thing. Yeah, well, that's why you need people. that you love. Yeah. That's why you need friends. See, my household My household was a. man, we sat at the dinner table and. dude, it it it came out. I'm talking about. That's good. And then but my wife's household was. man, they you know. Bottled it up. They bottled it up and it all worked and.

we don't know who came out better. But but me and my wife, you know, we we. work on like. you know, we work on like. I mean, like my wife never saw her mama. like in the shower. like just showering, you know, like walk. through the house naked. I mean, hell, we had one bathroom. It was like we're a. bunch of damn naked idiots running. around trying to get to the bathroom. And my my wife said, "Yeah, my mama did. not uh.

shower with the door open." And I'm. like, "Or". And I'm like, "Really?". She's like, I'm like, "You're kidding. me. Never once." I'm like, She's That's kind of crazy. Everybody's. Well, when you have daughters, there's a. certain amount of time where. Yeah. in front of them anymore. Once they hit. like 4 or 5 years old, you're like, "Okay, that's all right.". Dude, my my 16-year-old saw my beard. We're We're living in our guest house. right now cuz we're doing some some work. to our main house. So, you know, we're. our main house had stuff that just kept.

happening. We were like, "We're moving out." And when we move. back in, have it all fixed. So, we got. three We got a 22-year-old, a 16-year-old living in the same house. Well, my wife stored all of my all of my. bathroom stuff. It's in a It's in a box. somewhere. I'm all my shaving gear. I'll. run into my son's bathroom, my. 16-year-old, and I grabbed his beard. trimmer. I grabbed a I grabbed this [ __ ]. trimmer sitting there, and I shaved my. beard, and I'm all up under my nose, and. Is it my ball hair? No.

I get in my truck, and I'm driving on. the road. My son gets home from school. crying, laughing. "What?". "DAD!". "YOU SHAVED YOUR BEARD WITH MY BALL. TRIMMERS!". AND I WAS LIKE, "You little shit.". I'm First of all, I'm like, "What in the. hell. What? 16-year-old manscaping? What the [ __ ] going on?".

It's a new world. I know. I'm like, "Dude, I never. imagined you had I don't even think he's. you know, whatever." He's damn It's so. fun, man. These kids My dad My my. God, it's so amazing. Dude, we you know, we were elk hunting, man, and. um my 14-year-old, we we got this really. cool when we go elk hunting, we got to. wade across a river. to get to. our elk spot. And the first couple of years, man, we.

didn't we just stripped down to our. underwear. and and hung our boots. and all our gear. and walked underwear and dude, it was. kind of like a we're really men, you. know. Right. And. so Tate and Bo Bo the first time I would. put him on my shoulders. and walk him. Well, then after 2 years we were like, "Dude, let's go buy and get like eight pairs of. waders. and set them on the bank and we'll leave.

the waders." And everybody's like, "That's a damn good idea." I'm like, "Yeah. I mean, how many years it take. y'all to understand go get some damn. waders?". So, Tate, for the past the last 3 years. I've I've toted him across the river and. man, I I looked at him the last day of. the hunt and this was Tate Tate's year. to try to get an elk and he. actually, Dad, I kind of messed up the. elk hunt. I moved and spooked the elk. Which was great because he realized that. just cuz you're Luke Bryan's son, you.

don't get the damn elk. But uh. and. I said, "Hey, um. I said, "I want to touch across the. river." I said, "You're growing and this. probably be the last year." So, I toted. him across the river and then on the way. back he goes, "Hey, Dad, I want to wade. it by myself." And man, he uh. he wa- You don't realize how much your. kids really are watching you. But we're. sitting on the bank. and he's watching me and I set my bow. down.

and he takes his bow and sets it down. and. he watches everything I do and it was. cutest thing ever. I even told my wife. So, every year I take my boots and I tie. them in a knot and I. and I hang them and throw them over my. cuz we're toting gear and I throw my. boots over my shoulders so they're not. they don't get wet in the. Man, I looked at him and he he's sitting. there tying his little string. He stands up and throws them boots and. he just Man, watching your kids just. absorb it is just uh.

you know, it's pretty damn special. you're having a beautiful life, my. friend. Well, it's uh. It really does. Kids make it. It really does. It really does. Luke, thank you very much, man. This is a lot. of fun. I hope we uh we enjoyed it. More than 3 hours? Was it? Yeah. Yeah. Holy [ __ ]. Yeah, it's 4:30. 3 hours then. There it is. Mind of a country boy, listen or. download now. Look at you, handsome bastard. Well,

[ __ ] tight jeans. Look at you. [ __ ] tight jeans. Everybody hates me. They don't hate you, man. Just don't read the ones that do. Yeah, oh [ __ ]. Appreciate you, brother. Thank you very. much. Hey, love you. Love you, too. Love you, too. Bye, everybody.