Joe Rogan Experience #2192 - Raanan Hershberg

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day um what's up he how's it going. thanks for coming in my pleasure it's. going on it's an honor uh good to good. yeah good to be here um the cold showers. what we're talking about before those. are the hardest oh well New York City. cold showers in the winter are. brutal because it doesn't get your whole. body so you actually have to constantly.

move around and re freeze your ass off. you know what I mean it's hard to. breathe too yeah yeah I used to do them. for a while though when I was a kid when. I used to do martial arts there was this. dude I used to work out with named Bob. cafarella and he was like a real psycho. and Bob used to always take cold showers. he said it was good for the spirit it is. we would all be sitting around going. what the [ __ ] is wrong with him this. guy's in the the shower it was January. in Boston and this guy's in the shower. just [ __ ] freezing but I I feel like.

when you do it it's like you feel. afterwards this awakeness that you only. get with drugs like that like [ __ ]. like oh I'm like you never realize how. not present you are until you take a. cold plunge and then you're like oh now. I'm [ __ ] in the world right because. your body is trying to protect you from. dying you which is a real rush it well. it really is though it's norepinephrine. that's the big one dopamine kicks up. everything and it last for hours that's. what I tell people even though they. don't want to do it I'm like I know it. sucks I don't think it's good I don't I.

don't get in and go this is amazing I'm. the best I get in I go oh [ __ ] Jesus. Christ just keep it together and I just. try to stay calm but I know when I get. out I'm going to feel great for hours. exactly ex hours and hours except for. the time I did it on your instruction. and [ __ ] up but uh it was like jackass. doing it at home and like losing getting. a nut ripped off I did the I saw you do. it it looked great put the ice in the. bath and I was just cold for like two. days straight it was crazy yeah I. wouldn't recommend doing it for 10.

minutes the first time you you went a. little crazy I went a little crazy yeah. but kudos to you for doing it it's. [ __ ] hard to do 10 minutes well I. don't like crazy I used to do a lot of. drugs I don't really do drugs anymore I. mean I'll do Edibles um and occasionally. crate them so I guess I do some. drugs I'll do cocaine and hero but I'm. pretty clean other than that I mean i e. processed foods a lot of dessert but. [ __ ] it yeah I mean crystal meth but. that's it and I drink whiskey no rocks. but I I don't do like the big drug so.

the coal plunge is really the closest to. get to that high yeah if you could get. that in a pill it would be a very. popular pill would be taking it all day. long I I know but part of it is probably. going through the pain right yeah this. is better for your because there's a. thing there's a part in your brain. Andrew H has talked about this I forget. what it it's actually called but there's. a part of your brain that actually grows. when you force yourself into do. difficult things like say if you're a. person who likes to run and you you. force yourself I'm going to run five. miles every morning for 60 days like if.

you can actually do that so an [ __ ]. yeah an [ __ ] my friend C I'm trying. to imagine myself running I have a buddy. of mine that was doing a marathon every. day oh really yeah he's a psycho he does. these Ultra marathons oh my God where. they run for three days he does uh like. force Gump but he no Force Gump was was. no Force Gump was running yeah yeah he. ran across America but they do these. things through the mountains like they. do the Moab I think it's the Moab two. 200 or 240 so it's 240 Mi through.

mountains it's not just like straight. 240 Mi like you're going over mountains. and hills and [ __ ] I can run for about. seven minutes and I'm probably lying. about that I'm definitely lying I can. run for about four minutes before I have. to like stop I don't I used to not run. at all and then I I entered into a 5K. and I couldn't believe how hard it was. to do Insane I thought I was in. reasonably good shape yeah it's crazy. how much more in shape other people are.

especially running shape like the. runners are people that can do the. Sprints the you know they can do. something for like a really long time. that I can do for maybe like two seconds. I think they're drug addicts too though. natural drugs the natural run aedin not. a fedrin Euphoria what is they called. whatever that thing is Runners Euphoria. yeah I don't know what the what are the. actual chemicals that get released. during a runner's high uh what we'll. find that out yeah got to be dope I mean.

but there's a thing that you do when you. do a lot of cardio where you do get. really high you not not high in a bad. way but high in like a very chilled. endorphins endorphins that's what. looking for popular culture identifies. these chemicals behind the runner's high. so you just it says a shortl lasting I. don't think is that shortl lasting but. you have to do it for a while you have. to run for like I think 45 minutes oh. here it goes it says up to a few hours. that makes sense so the Bliss it can. last anywhere from a few minutes to a. few hours but it side effects yeah no I.

mean that's when you don't do drugs like. that's the only way yeah my dad plays. tennis every day for like five hours. that's a good thing yeah he he's. obsessed he watches all he does is play. tennis or watch Tennis really that's all. he cares tennis freak he's a tennis and. he's retired so he just plays tennis all. day just plays tennis he has one of. those rackets where you he's a real nerd. about where you plug it into the. computer and look at the data whoa and. then he's either playing tennis or doing. that or just watching tennis on TV wow.

that's all he cares about see that's one. if you get into you you're relying on. your vehicle unfortunately yeah yeah. yeah you know like if you're getting. into chess you could pretty much always. move those [ __ ] things around you. know if you really get obsessed with. chess chess is my favorite sport but. really I'm only out of breath after the. first. 45 do you play chess I used to play. chess I used to be in the chess club oh. no kidding I don't play any more as well. but I I love chess yeah I'm scared of. Chess really yeah I'm scared I'd get. addicted to it like.

Theon right but I don't have any time. it's like that's why I won't play golf. same thing like I'm sure the golfers. like Jamie Jamie's big golfer they'll. tell you how awesome it is I'm like I. believe you I don't I'm not going to try. it I'm not I'm I'm not going to let it. get its [ __ ] fangs into me that's how. I feel about video games my comic friend. play video games and I'm like I think. that's the worst drug cuz that you're. just doing you're just wasting your life. there's no intervention also it doesn't. have to be sunny out you [ __ ] 3 in. the morning like I don't want to go to. bed I got I was at my brother's place I.

played a video game once and I hav. played it since like golden ey so I had. seen any of the improvements so I. started playing like they're like movies. now it's like crazy and I got so hooked. there was a moment where I just like saw. myself being addicted and just like. Snapped out of it it was like four hours. straight yeah I had to quit cold turkey. I used to play Quake online it gets it. it like numbs you out it's crazy it's. just too easy to get a game because you. could always at any moment in time I. could either be bored I could be having. a conversation that's boring or I could. be doing something boring or I can just.

log in and have a death match one-on-one. with some dude from [ __ ] Denmark I. know you know like it's crazy like I I. remember typing like where do you live. and then the day people are like I'm in. Estonia like whoa that's crazy like. while you're killing them well you kill. each other and you make little pauses. and you ask it's fun it's crazy yeah. it's fun I just yeah I I'm afraid to. like waste all that time but 100% I'm. like an a workaholic a bit um which. obviously you are yeah but that's I.

think that's okay as long as you're. doing something that you actually enjoy. I don't think there's anything wrong. with being obsessed with something yeah. no I'm not a workaholic when I when I. worked at Red Lobster I was not a. workaholic when I worked at fr's Big Boy. I was not exactly let's get this right I. think that's the deal with a lot of kids. that are bored in school and they're. calling them ADHD I think they think. that the subjects that are being. discussed are boring as [ __ ] of course. they're bouncing off the walls they're. 13 years old they have so [ __ ] why is.

it never the teacher's fault exactly. it's like why do the teacher say. something interesting it's insane it's. like to be like oh no no they're just. it's like if an audience doesn't laugh. and you're like no no no it's not that. I'm not funny it's that you have. laughing deficit disorder it's like it's. throwing the ball onto something else be. interesting there was an article in one. of the science journals recently about. one of the science magazines recently. about ADHD and then there were saying. that is it was. actually uh an advantage to think that. way for hunter gatherers oh wow and that.

that's this is left over from where they. they're constantly looking at other. things and trying to pay and they could. focus on one thing like very intensely. but they're scanning for a bunch of. other stuff you notice yeah you're like. oh what's that and then it's like a. raspberry also they're always in. activity and motion ADHD may have. evolved to help foragers know when to. cut their losses oh interesting you're. too focused you get you get killed this. is not the one that I read Because this. is from February the one I read was just. a couple of days ago but symptoms of. attention deficit hyper hyperactivity.

disorder such as impulsivity may have. helped forgers and Hunter gather. communities quickly move on to new areas. when food sources were low that's. amazing so if you're too focused you you. don't you don't know when to quit right. and then you get [ __ ] killed or you. run out of resources that makes sense. like you got it's like an instant let's. get the [ __ ] out of here right and now. yeah well you know I got really addicted. to uh Aderall like everyone oh wow I'm. scared of that too I've never tried it I. used to when I was in after college I.

started taking it like recreationally. and then I went to a a psychiatrist and. told her I had a problem and she was. like well we can prescribe it for you oh. Jesus Christ then it'll no longer be a. problem oh my God I was like okay I was. thinking more like rehab but sure what. kind of [ __ ] psychiatrist she's. probably on out R right now why don't. you join me it's insane let's clean my. house I did it for like I got super I. was doing 90 milligrams a day I was like. is that a lot Jamie it's a lot what is a.

normal dose 10 yeah when I did 20 I was. [ __ ] up for 48 hours or something. like that it's Crystal math for nerds. but it's crystal meth I mean it's. [ __ ] it's like it's intense I was so. [ __ ] I I wrote poetry that's how high I. was I thought I could write poetry this. this gentleman Norman oler was on my. podcast two weeks ago and he wrote All. About the Third Reich dude it's crazy. and speed yeah the whole thing was meth. they were all methed up they were methed. up when they [ __ ] [ __ ] did the blitz. Creek I do a bit about that now about.

Hitler being on speed I'm obsessed with. Hitler I'm like oh man I have like one. of my bookshelves is just all Holocaust. and Hitler books really yeah but I I'm. I'm dying to read that I know uh Goring. was on everything were all on everything. Goring was on like huge painkillers the. whole time was Hitler Hitler was on one. of the things the misconceptions that he. was on meth and it appears a lot of what. he was on was oxies he was on oxycodone. yeah they had the original oxycodone so. they were just like high it's like when.

you get high and you run over someone. they're just like they they were like. what the [ __ ] did I do when I was high. like [ __ ] they don't even care I killed. all the juice did you ever see that. video of the lady who's on pills and the. cops are telling her to pull over and. she doesn't know why and she has no. wheel on her car her car is like. spitting Flames have you ever seen it. and they pull over and she's like what's. the problem and the cops like ma'am are. you on pills like what the [ __ ] is going. on how do you not know you lost a wheel. on the highway you know what I you got. to see it it's bonkers no that's insane.

I yeah it is like the Nazis were just. all on drugs which is is just like a. crazy I mean the whole Third Reich is. surreal that the look at this so here's. this lady she's just driving like. nothing's wrong waving. hi back of another car near Quail Hill. shopping center she says her car just. gave out police say the woman was not. impaired and they didn't arrest her the. what the [ __ ] you talking about that. lady's on. pills if she's not impaired she. shouldn't be ever driving if you don't. notice you lost a wheel right that's a.

that's a big red flag did they there was. that the same one that might not have. even been the same one a longer video of. what was happening look on the screen. longer video right okay this is it like. there's no way you don't know that. there's no way you don't know and the. truck's open. also back the [ __ ] back is completely. open I say that's not even the big. problem at this point I can't imagine. that she's not medicated that doesn't. make any sense to me like something's. going on if she isn't medicated she's. Psy she's a psycho right something's. wrong if she's not medicated like she's.

got a blown fuse um but also that's how. cars get they catch fire like that like. no that's insane yeah no I uh yeah what. is this guy saying her erratic Behavior. are you having a hard day drive because. you can kill people you can kill people. just got diagnosed with. pancreatic Jesus police told us well. there we go now we're [ __ ] un she's. making it up she might be making it up. but that she might be telling the truth. which makes sense where you're like your.

whole world is like what is life I'm. going to die real soon and they can't. fix this and you're just the car's. [ __ ] up you don't even care that. could be the patch is open you don't. even care yeah like your world is over. or you're like oh [ __ ] I [ __ ] up let. me say something to get out of it right. now you're a cynic I am an optimist I. look for the good in people I did a show. once when I was like younger and I you. know you when start you have like very I. mean I guess I still have dark jokes but. I have some joke about SIDS you know the. sudden infant death and I was doing it.

it was like some pizza shop in my. hometown in an audience and one person. in the a looked really upset and I go. what you don't like the joke and they. were like our kid died of sins and I. immediately like went into like you know. like when you were starting out I just. went into the oldest safest material I'm. like so I'm broke anyone else overdraft. you just go right into itan and then at. the end I went up to him and her and I. apologized and he was like oh we're just. joking I like that's the worst Heckle. ever oh that's so mean but I stopped. doing that kind of joke afterwards cuz I.

was like it's fine to do those kind of. jokes but you have to be prepared right. for I was not prepared like I don't want. to upset people like that so I just. someone who lost their kid right so I. was like I can't do those jokes you like. I'm not against someone doing like. that's like Anthony J has a [ __ ] ton of. jokes like that of course yeah they're. they're great people enjoy it it's not. bad it's not bad comedy it's like but at. least with a guy like Jess neck you. should know what you're getting into and. don't try to pretend there's something.

wrong with what he's saying but all. these other people don't have a problem. with it it's a taste thing yeah exactly. doesn't like it's like but when you. start out no one knows who the you know. no one knew who I was at the pizza shop. in Bloomington Indiana course that's why. it's so dangerous yeah that's what but. the only way they're going to find out. that's the kind of stuff you do is if. you take those risks and do that kind of. stuff and get in trouble you got to you. got to do you got to get in trouble yeah. yeah I mean thank God I started before. people film stuff.

I said the wor how many years are you in. now 17 okay that's great that's great I. said horrible [ __ ] but it's not on film. but you also you got in what I. think the filming thing is [ __ ]. strange right because some people want. to get filmed because you can get some. clips like interacting with the audience. right but it's like you have to have an. opportunity to work out stuff of course. yeah because there's times when you're. on stage and you're saying things and. you have a new bit and you don't know. where you're taking it while you're.

taking it there of course yeah and you. have to like that's why when they luk. the Louie thing yeah it was any comic. who that like criticized him should lose. their comedian badge right away they. have to me yeah you if you release. something when they weren't planning for. it it doesn't matter what they said in. it you're at fault for releasing. something you know well it's obviously. he an audience member that released it. but the comics that criticized I'm like. hey man [ __ ] you like you you pretend. first of all the guy didn't do comedy. for 10 months yeah and then second the. stuff that he was saying if you know him. and you know his act and I guarantee you.

[ __ ] do cuz a lot of those people are. just haters yeah if you know him you. know given enough time he would make. that horrible premise really [ __ ]. funny frankly it was pretty funny then. pretty funny theny I mean was horrible. he saying like push the fat kid in front. of you that's funny but you don't think. there would be layers upon layers that. would make that joke brilliant in a year. if you just let him do it and you learn. the cushions like he didn't have the. cush you learn Louie people like Lou the. great Comics are great at learning how. to make a hard joke work yes and he.

hadn't maybe developed the cushions yet. on stage but they would he had done any. comedy at all in 10 months yeah so this. is like literally the first set he did I. think anyone who criticized him about. that was the kind of comedian who. doesn't take risks cuz if you take any. risk you wouldn't want stuff to be. released right exactly and if you. understand how jokes are developed like. yeah exactly there's too many people. that like got into it from something. else and they did stand up in the. beginning and then they got into it. again they considered themselves. standups and then they'll come out and.

criticize something like this and you go. just shut the [ __ ] up man you're not. even doing it right yeah you're not yeah. you're not even doing it right like you. you saying that he's that this is bad. like come on man we this is how. everybody creates material you have to. yeah once he puts it on a special then. you can judge it once he decides exactly. but until then yeah work on it you know. imagine if my Sid Jer was filmed. probably getting some notoriety back. then well now on Twitter You' become a. hero yeah but uh no one knows about it.

except for me bringing it up right. now except for all your listeners but. it's like you've got to have a place. where you can [ __ ] around and that's the. problem with like filming all the time. because there's there's things that like. you'll start a bit off when you first. start writing it and start making it. it's like it's so different than when it. finishes you got to be able to find that. and not have people see it yeah not have. people see it because it's you know. comedy is like you want people to see. the finished product but it's. embarrassing until then you're sweaty. you're working [ __ ] out you're stumbling. you're bombing you like you don't want.

people to see that part well it's fun to. watch as an audience member though one. of my favorite things is watching a bit. develop you know watching someone like. come up with an initial premise and. maybe they come in the green room we're. all brainstorming trying to figure what. is what what part is where where does it. get get clunky it's interesting to me. it's all a mystery like how it develops. like I I think about I listen to tapes. but when you just keep doing it it just. naturally edits itself it's an. interesting mystery where naturally. forms know right as long as you're not.

rigid yes yes and and listen to it all. yeah yeah cuz some people are rigid and. this is a problem that like open micers. have in beginning Comics is they started. doing a bit a very certain way so. they're kind of comfortable saying it. that way and they're uncomfortable on. stage already right so they keep saying. it the same way that's the death of. Comedy that's one the thing Louie taught. me um or not taught me but something I. understood but he really articulated is. like the enemy of Comedy is rotness.

figuring out that you once you think you. can say it a certain way where it gets a. laugh it's dead like if you're relying. on to just say it that way to get right. right and he show he like he made it. clear like you really and he shows it. you really got to think about the. emotion behind it which you forget. immediately or like after a while but. like I I I fall into this trap all the. time where I figure out a way to say a. joke and it gets a laugh and I think I. think the minute you're 100% sure it's. going to work that's when it starts. dying right I know what you're saying. yeah like it has to I think what you're.

saying is that it has to be real in your. mind at that moment you can't be just. reading a script you have to think yeah. instead of yeah to me it's like instead. of thinking of like oh I'm saying. something now that will get a laugh just. try to think of the anger the sadness or. whatever right why what is upsetting you. or making you laugh hysterically about. the subject that's why Bill Bird is so. great because it's like he's not he. doesn't look like he's trying to get. people laugh right right look really. angry yeah funny he is talked to bill in. the green room that's the same guy yeah.

[ __ ] if I [ __ ] told him and that's. what yeah and that's what's hilarious. just kind of like the fact he's so great. at keeping that anger I don't know if. it's an act I mean keeping that anger. alive through all these shows it's not. an act not an he's a Psy you can call. him right now bring up something that. annoy listen to you [ __ ] you know my. favorite is when he's on a podcast with. someone and they take themselves. seriously like he was on with Bill Mah. and he was just chewing Bill Mah up and. then he was on Charlamagne the God he. was chewing him up it just I love it I.

love it he's the best at that he's yeah. he no he's the king he's amazing he's. the best of like breaking down what yeah. look at you you know just breaking you. down and you're like oh no he knows me. just roasting you voice he knows me he. knows me uh no he's amazing and he uh. yeah I just think um his ability just. always be himself on stage which I think. that's the comedy I love the most he has. a unique talent for it unique talent for. anything he's talking about he's just.

being himself yeah no that's incredible. yeah it's a [ __ ] it's it's so. interesting to see how so many people do. it differently but we all have like. something in common and I think one. thing that everybody has in common is. like what the best ones are really. thinking about what they're talking. about right right think really really. and having to care about it I feel like. so many times I'll do a bit and it's not. working and then I realize I don't give. a [ __ ] right about the thing I'm saying. I need to if it if it's important to me. it'll be important to the audience yeah.

I have to bail on bits when I'm bored. with them I know cuz you're like I don't. I don't I don't really care about this. yeah this is I not know there's. something like people yeah there's. something there I'm like I know but. right now I don't give a [ __ ] about it. so I have to leave it alone for a little. bit if you don't give a [ __ ] about it. they they can tell yeah there was some. of them there were some bits that killed. when I first started doing them and then. they got a little flat and I was like. what is going on here oh I don't care. anymore you don't care you don't care. and you know they work there's no. mystery MH it's also I didn't find out. whatever it is in the bit that makes it. a great bit right you know there's like.

there's sometimes you just can't find a. thing that elevates it from an eight it. stays at an eight exactly it never hits. a 10 you got to sometimes you got a trim. sometimes you keep them in if they make. a point if they're like. bizarrely ironic or there's something. about it where you're like it's worth it. even though it's not the funniest joke. it's cuz little Hills and Valleys with. with the hour it works well in the you. know yeah yeah with an hour but you. sometimes you just got to set aside and. then sometimes I'll come back to it you.

know I have like a a whole folder that I. call orphan babies and it's all bits. that never made it on anything that's. great to keep a record that's that's a. great thing to you have to that's the. hardest part forgetting everything I. forget him sometimes our friend brings. him up like what about the hyena thing. I'm like I [ __ ] forgot that How does. it go people bring that up like oh yeah. why did I stop doing that joke and do it. again I know yeah it's weird it's tough. like I Rec I did an hour released an. hour like a couple months ago go and so. I'm trying to work out a new hour it's.

tough when you have that cuz there's a. lot of jokes you just probably don't. care about that much but you need it in. there just for the you know right it's. like scaffolding you know exactly right. to keep the bits together so they're. coherent sometimes but in my head I'm. like h i I think everybody should have a. a folder that they just put on everybody. should write I mean I know everybody. likes to write on stage and I get it and. there's some of the greats that right on. stage but I if you're listening if. you're not those people everybody else. you should write yeah cuz you can go. back and not forget them I have a whole.

my bookshelf looks like seven you know. where he has all the. notebooks that's great it's all just you. know crazy manifestos and jokes yeah I. think that's it's like one of the things. that I found when I had to do this live. specials that I had to really go over my. [ __ ] like with a fine tooth comb so I W. up writing out all my bits that I've. done hundreds of times write them out. exactly word for word just drill it into. my head and then I I Was preparing for. this I was like I should probably be.

doing this all the time I know right I. should probably be doing not just when I. getting ready for a special but I should. probably be doing comedy this way I know. it's like uh whatever I done late night. I start really analyzing the jokes and. like cutting them and being like Oh I. should if I did this all the time I'd be. pretty. good I'm like that word does not work. there but it's just because I'm doing on. late night so I'm like but then normally. I'm like whatever I know it's like it's. funny it's we we have our own schedule. we we we get to govern ourselves which. is not always the best thing it's yeah.

cuz if we were like a prodigy and you. know you were a violin coach I'd make. you practice all day [ __ ] I know but. you can only technically practice on. stage that's the weird thing it's like. you can but you can prepare off stage. yeah you got yeah I uh yeah no I mean I. think it's I think it's really important. to like write everything down and go. back to it and just so you don't lose. anything you can forget things yeah. especially as you get older I have a. bunch of friends that just keep things. in their head and you know like uh.

Duncan I'm pretty sure he did this. release this bit so I could say he might. not a [ __ ] but he's got a great bit. about my Sid's bit you can do it no but. I don't know I I think it's he he. recorded a special but I don't know if. it's on it so I don't want to say it but. okay he he's got this great Aderall bit. he totally forgot about it and I said. remember he go How does it go I go you. say like oh my God that joke's amazing I. go it's your joke you forgot it you got. it yeah it's important to be organized. yeah we govern ourselves and we're all. Slackers it's a weird job cuz it's just.

you uhhuh and it's just how even like. advice doesn't typically work cuz every. comedian when they give advice they're. really just giving it for that works for. them right and you don't know if it. works for your voice or how you it's all. so you're just alone and you have to. create your own system you know advice. as long as it's not rigid is really good. because you really can't tell people how. to do things no and if anything I mean. there's some good advice I mean when I.

was started out I got a couple you know. yeah look around the audience keep the. mic out of the oh standard stuff but. like once you get it to real advice I. don't know I think it just gets in your. head for the most part you know. sometimes it's good and sometimes it's. terrible you know I got a lot of. terrible advice when I first started out. what's a good advice good advice is. write a lot um listen to your recordings. that was one thing this guy Mike dunan. in I I got real lucky that I I started. out in Boston in the 80s and it was like. there local Headliners that were awesome.

I mean world class but they were local. they stayed local and one of them was. this guy Mike dunan and Mike dunan he. always had a like this is back in the. day when you had cassette recorders that. were big like like a [ __ ] box of. cigars and he would sit it on the thing. and press record when he went on stage. he goes oh my God you never know he goes. you might have a new tagline in that. moment that's crazy and then you forget. about it if you don't listen and that. was some of the best advice i' ever. heard it was like the first comic. recording of sets yeah he was just a. smart dude and he just figured out that.

you you got to do that yeah I think like. that advice is great like definitely. writing a lot and definitely listen to. your sets is so important because. there's so many Comics who go up all the. time but they're delusional and they. don't get better because they're not. like realizing that it's not working you. know yeah you got to analyze yourself. like a hater exactly but but stuff about. how to say [ __ ] and all that I just feel. or like your style some of that it's. just I feel like you're kind of alone a. little 100% you know cuz like a imine. someone like Bill Burr trying to give.

advice to Mitch Hedberg how just [ __ ]. yell the bit get mad get mad get mad. think about it what what the [ __ ] would. you get mad about the rice get mad get. mad get mad that there's so many rice. yeah I mean you at a certain point in. time that's one of the cool I I've been. thinking about doing this for quite a. while now we've talked about it and I. think we're going to do it and what I. want to do is have outside of podcast to. just have an interview with Headliners. with they come into town and tell me.

about what happened tell me about your. journey what was your first open mic. what was it like what you how' you feel. how'd you get started did someone. influence you did someone ask you to do. it what were your first road gigs just. not a podcast where like it'd be me. talking about my stories but just like I. just want to know 100% an interview. right right a conversation but an. interview and just you know so that it's. archived for Comics cuz you remember. like when you were starting I mean 17. years ago right there. you could get a couple of books there.

was a few books Rich Richard beler had a. book on stand up it was kind of like. tongue and cheek right right the comedy. Bible that woman yeah yeah yeah there's. but there was nothing written by anybody. who was really good no so that was part. of the problem not Belzer was good but. but nothing written by like George. Carlin or Richard Pryor or you know a. Lenny Bruce it's never advised from the. great it's always some weird person some. like kind of grifty yeah it's grifty. it's and someone like well you're not a. comedian well we thought about doing. that at the store back in the day we. were talking about doing comedy classes.

where you know a comic like a headliner. would come in and I know Ari did this. quite a few times Ari did in Phoenix. when I was there he set up like a. seminar for free for all the local. Comics told him how this is how you get. a manager this how you get an agent this. how you get stage time this is what you. should do to organize your set and. [ __ ] amazing resource for free he did. it for like two and a half hours so Ari. was doing that for a while but it's. there's nothing like that for com coming. up everybody has to learn from the.

people at the clubs yeah yeah yeah no. that's a good that's a good I would love. to hear that stuff because if you could. go start out now and you can go on. YouTube first of all you have access to. everything red fox Rodney janger field. [ __ ] everything that's ever been is. online Lenny Bruce you watch Lenny Bruce. recordings right now yeah it was. impossible to find that [ __ ] when we. started impossible still impossible to. understand but yeah a lot of it right I. listened to him I'm like I don't it was. a different time where saying yish was. really like hip. right Lenny yeah you know the michig of.

guys on the street well the thing about. Lenny was that no one had ever talked. like that publicly so this was a totally. unique thing that you have to take in. the context of 1963 some of the most. groundbreaking stuff feels the most. dated later CU it is so groundbreaking. that everyone the model changed the. whole world changed the way they think. about things and then talking about. things openly the way he did became. normal right doing normal things to us. but it seems yeah no it's like the.

musical Oklahoma seems like such a. standard thing but at the time it was. super experimental it was the first one. where they they uh they had like a not a. chorus on stage right away or someone. singing and a narrative like a Nar like. musical before that were reviews and uh. you like how I switch it to musicals. you're like you're like go back to. Comedy no musicals are cool I love. musicals but it was like it was. groundbreaking at the time a narrative. story most sh before that was like. reviews and they broke a lot of rules. but now it's just Oklahoma you know but. it was like an experimental thing at the.

time like The Wizard of Oz yeah The. Wizard of Oz was Monumental when it came. out like it was something that everybody. saw it was one movie that you would. guarantee everybody you talked to had. seen The Wizard of Oz yeah no it was it. was it is the most watched movie I read. a book about the making recently it was. interesting yeah it uh did you know that. let so Judy Garland was like uh groped. by a lot of the little people on the. movie It's like a whole thing she got. groped and I read it apparently they.

were mad all the little people were like. very drunk and wild you know and they. were mad cuz apparently they were. getting paid less than Toto the dog whoa. so the hierarchy on Wizard of Oz was. like the dog little people and then. women at the bottom you know and they. were like groping her and she couldn't. say anything about it wow it's an insane. I I wish they could make a that's also. like what year was that 1930 n bro. people were Savages back then no there.

Savages oh he slapped uh the director. Victor fluming slapped Judy gar in the. face during a scene just slapped her. because she couldn't uh keep a straight. face oh my god oh no it was and that. movie I I wish I could make a movie. about the making of wood RZ and that. would show like the beauty of the movie. but also how horrible behind the scenes. were cuz you had the witch caught on. fire and literally like lost feeling in. her hand at one point and then they. forced her to go back to Margaret uh.

what her name they forced her go back to. work the next day even though she was in. the hospital uh the original guy playing. the Tin Man got really sick because the. of the the paint they were using he. ended up in the hospital they just. replaced him immediately yeah he got. like really sick yeah no it's like a it. was a oh that makes sense like what the. [ __ ] is that stuff they put on his skin. there's no regulation back then they're. just like let's try this also they had. just got done with like think about that. was like the lamide baby back then right. or that was actually later the lamide.

babies wasn't that like in the'. 60s um but they had the the the the. girls that developed cancer because they. were using the loom for the watches. right right right so that radio what was. that called the radium girls radium. girls yeah it was horrific holes in. their face and [ __ ] their their tongues. would rot out of their mouths it was. Zero nobody told them anything cuz lick. the tip of their brush when they were. cuz they were doing these very delicate. Loom dials on watches no that no one. gave a [ __ ] and in the Hollywood there.

was no like the stars didn't have like. some stars were beginning to have power. but Judy Garland she was just treated. like like she was owned by them you know. what I mean like to slap imagine. director like try to slap like Emma. Stone now crazy it's just crazy to think. that that wasn't that long ago I know. and it's well the Holocaust alsoo soon. but isn't it kind of like watching tape. and listening to tape as a comic because. you don't know how bad you suck until. you see it and people didn't know how. bad like that kind of behavior was until.

you see it like go to watch the old. James Kagney movies he'd smack his. girlfriend right in the face and he was. the hero and then they kiss each other. it's all yeah every nut it's yeah you I. love watching old stuff to see like the. the problematic Parts I just find them. like really funny you ever see the one. where it's like an old western and the. guy is spanking his wife and the kid. comes along and says uh do you like I. know why you're spanking Mommy it's. because you love her and then he's like.

that's right son it's so nuts like the. woman is over the guy's knees and he's. spanking her that's it's out of love you. know that's insane this is like. something that someone thought you could. pass off in a movie I mean that's how. confused we were about narratives and. about reality and well every 80s movie. like people like you got to watch here. it is look at this do Wayne diing those. bird into me for. now you're going to get oh my.

God thanks thanks look he's beat that's. awful this is not the one where the guy. uh the wife I mean he's beating her with. a piece of metal and what a great show. oh my God what a great movie I love when. they give him the weapon to use and be's. like thank you yeah normal yeah normal. beat her with a weapon don't use your. hand what if your hand gets hurt well. every 80s movie they're like you got to. watch this ' 80s movie it's a classic. then you turn it on it's like 12 nerds. gang raping a woman it's like every 80s.

comedy is like a prank is this the what. is this one maybe not I thought this was. the one he's chasing around the house. and he spanks her too so he's carrying. her away look he's spanking her in front. of everybody look at the watch back then. this is so crazy that's insane not just. spaking but faking in public not just. like he's holding her up in the air. while he's SP laughing like they think. it's wonderful look he's going to [ __ ]. her lady Dr just drops her is.

on just. laughing I've never been so proud of you. what the [ __ ] I've never been sooud and. see me in the morning son you star to. work at 10 they both have black eyes and. he's got his arm around her oh sweetie I. got the job what the [ __ ] is that movie. about you we just look evil when we look. back in the past everyone just like slap. spanker spanker and by the way they. thought they were so sophisticated. because they were comparing themselves.

to [ __ ] cave people of course yeah. well we you know we change we move at. our own pace right and so we had to like. look at the cave pain and he's go that. is kind of [ __ ] up that he stabbed. that guy with the spear I remember that. it goes from that to movies and plays. right yeah well we're getting we're. getting better just slow I my my cousin. had a bot Mitzvah uh and is reformed you. know that's where you do the whole. service in English and you have to read. part of the Bible which in reform in. conserv you do in Hebrew but in reform. you do in English what what is the why. reform they're just more liberal more.

accessible usually like a lesbian Rabbi. and she like eating out her girlfriend. on stage and stuff and there's like a. the caner tuning a guitar and uh she had. to read a part of the Bible but reform. do it in English so the 13-year-old girl. had to go on stage in front of everyone. and read the selected part and like not. every part of the Bible holds up so she. it was like 300 people her parents. behind her and she's just on stage she. has to open to the part and she's just. like when a slave offends you you cut. off his right arm and then his parents.

her parents are behind her they like. that's my girl and then she's like would. you offend them again you execute them. these are the laws of of of how to. punish your slaves and we're all just. like in the back I'm Is that real quote. yeah or something like that yeah. something close to that Jesus Christ and. that's why you do it in Hebrews you. don't have to you can pretend it's okay. that's why we do it in Hebrew you you. don't know what they're talking about. well that was the whole thing about them. doing it in Latin right like nobody can. speak Latin so they could tell them. whatever take the priest's word for it. it says give me $100 if you want to be.

in the afterlife I think there's a lot. of that going on that's why everybody. wanted to kill Martin Luther right right. yeah the Latin that was a that was a big. con huge con yeah nobody speaks it yeah. only we know what it's saying the priest. is like kid it's saying to suck my dick. right now it it's nuts isn't it nuts. that that is kind of a dead language. like you can still learn Latin but. nobody speaks Latin no unless you're. getting possessed by the devil yeah. forget that demographic oh yeah those. folks well they usually to talk in.

tongues they're not even doing Latin. they're. going throw it a little they don't throw. in Latin do they occasionally I feel. like the Exorcist I feel like she throws. in a little Latin she said your mother. sucks [ __ ] in Hell which by the way. that movie I don't understand why. anyone's scared of that movie that movie. is hilarious that's because you're. younger than me I know when I was a boy. that movie was [ __ ] terrifying I saw. that movie I was real young like I. probably shouldn't have been able to see. it like what what year did that movie. come out. 705.

73 73 okay tried to be rain man so six. yeah well well you should have been. seeing the movie I saw that movie when I. was six yeah my parents let me see all. the scary movies but can you can I ask. you this did you at the time I was. talking them about it backstage did you. did you believe in the devil kind of oh. yeah sure CU I'm a Jew I'm like a. heathen Jew right we don't believe in. the devil so for me it just felt like. funny it's good [ __ ] movie man but. it's just like she's like you saying.

like your mom sucks [ __ ] in hell that's. like to a priest that's definitively. funny well how about when she [ __ ]. herself with the cross I just don't I. don't know it's just like to me she said. some wild [ __ ] while she was doing it. too like [ __ ] my [ __ ] [ __ ] something. like that but that's like I guess back. then the idea of a kid cursing was like. oh it was crazy well this girl now it's. South Park you want to talk about. someone that got [ __ ] up from doing a. movie she got really [ __ ] up from. doing these imagine okay you're a young. girl and you are literally playing the.

devil everybody knows you you're famous. now and you're famous for being the. [ __ ] devil that's insane so. everywhere you go people are scared of. you people see you on the street you. [ __ ] yourself with a crucifix in a. movie 133 people are walking by suck. [ __ ] in Hell Jesus Christ she probably. never heard the end of it and that was. another movie that everybody saw yeah. that was uh yeah I just I love horror. movies but I find that one it's like I. just don't find it I don't know I feel. like a girl I mean at the time I getto. was scary definitely if you're six uh.

but I just find it silly it's just like. you're you're telling the priest to go. [ __ ] himself this is funny I get it but. I think it's because we are living in. 2024 we're now and all those movies have. gone on and we've learned from those. movies which is interesting to think. that like back then at kid cursing we. were so much more puritanical that was. like disturbing disturbing and now it's. South Park yeah it's totally normal now. they're sticking things up butts yeah on. in cartoons yeah it's totally normal now.

and all that's again it's like going. back to listen to Lenny Bruce stuff and. then trying to listen to he had one joke. that Comics inadvertently stole because. they they didn't realize that they were. stealing it uh but because it was so so. brilliant but it was when homosexuality. was illegal back then right and he goes. uh being gay is illegal dig they what. what did they do when they catch you. they put you in jail with a bunch of. guys who want have sex with you. this is a great joke he had great jokes.

it's it's. just you don't we we C if you went back. in time to the 1950s and talk to people. they would think you're a [ __ ] alien. like who is this guy how is he talking. so freely about things right right and. he he did have great jokes you just got. to get past the Y dig and the mugas but. like uh he had great jokes I I I that. book of his is awesome the one the of. his transcripts you look at that no it's. like uh just a writing trials no just of. the standup oh the stand up it's awesome. you see it all in like uh he had one bit.

that was like uh I love Bill Hicks he's. one of my favorites but it was similar. to Bill Hicks joke not to say Bill Hicks. stole from it but they're just great. minds think alike about like if Jesus. came back would you want to see a cross. something similar to that yeah a bunch. of guys had that though but he might. have been the first yeah he probably was. the first I mean Kennison had something. kind of similar to that too I listened. to Bill Bill Hicks recently I he got me. into comedy I always loved him I. listened to him on a road trip recently. and he holds up so well and I think like.

the people call him preachy I think. they're so wrong I don't I actually. think all his jokes are just good jokes. that aren't really preachy for the most. part see I don't think it was preachy. like like I don't think Anthony Jessel. neck is really offensive no you know. what I'm saying like it's a style of. Comedy his style of Comedy was. condescending I'm smarter than you and. here's some amazing points about life. and so I liked it I like that yeah Hicks.

like when Hicks would talk about things. he' talk about things like you know. everybody's stupid like this is why. right and I'm telling you how it should. be and that's what people didn't like. about it but that was also a great way. to get some of those points across like. there was some points that that's really. kind of the only way if you want to. deliver it the way he does it it's. really kind of the only way you can do. it well it's also funny to see a crazy. person on stage just someone who's like. you know that's hilarious like he is a. funny character and I do think he has. great Mis directs like just great jokes.

that go beyond like what ideology he's. like you know professing you know you. mean Hicks Hicks yeah yeah well he had. brilliant [ __ ] about the war you know. they have sophisticated weapons how do. you know we check the. receipts just well the whole like uh o. uh the The Book Depository is very. realistic yeah Oswalt isn't in it yeah. he just had great like I yeah I just. thought he had just kind of like Woody. Allen I know he Lov like great like M. directs M and when you listen to it now.

a lot of it is kind of what a lot of. good comedy is where you take a hot. button issue but then you then you just. have a joke that's just kind of about. something else with and that's really a. lot of what his stuff is it just feels. like kind of like modern comedy you know. yeah well he definitely changed a lot of. people's idea of Comedy because he made. it kind of interesting for the first. time he had interesting subjects him and. Doug stand up definitely were my big. influences I loved you too I loved your. old I loved your uh I remember listen. went back when I listen to comedy albums. that was a different era I guess you.

know oh wow yeah but I remember I loved. your bit about the Tiger in the zoo the. monster in the Box yeah I still think. about that every time I to zoo because. they always make the cage look like they. could possibly jump out yeah you know. you remember that bit Yeah I do I kind. of remember it but I remember the story. these kids threw pine cones at a tiger. and the the Tigers can jump 14 ft and a. 12T cage they gave it like a little even. put cage is secure unless a gets really. mad but when's that going to happen just.

I would have given everything to see the. look on their face when that thing touch. the top of the bars yeah they were like. when the paws hit the bars and the body. starts going over the. flood of chemicals that must go into. your mind that's a high off the charts. that's a high probably like nothing else. you'll ever experien in life cold plunge. times 10,000 well it's like undeniable. you're dying right now like it's coming. you it's a 600 lb super Predator one kid. survived right I think one kid survived.

I think the kid who threw the pine cones. unfortunately survived I think his his. buddy got taken out oh that's how Fierce. tigers are like I'm not going to [ __ ]. you up I'm G to [ __ ] your friend up I. think his buddy went to help him oh my. God I don't know the whole story I mean. who knows it was probably just chaos but. I think about that bit every time at a. zoo they always make it look like the. tire can jump out I'm like why don't why. don't you just not make it look like. that put a roof on the box monster on. the box. why don't you have a roof on the.

box if you have a monster in the city in. a box put a we make it look like it can. jump out we don't need also how. expensive is it to put a roof on is it. that expensive I think they want to make. it feel like it's free [ __ ] that it's. not free no yeah they shouldn't be there. I I don't I don't agree with zoos at all. you don't like zo no I don't I I used to. I'm a hypocrite because I took my kids. to them because I want my kids to be. able to see these animals cuz it's kind. of cool to see a 2-year-old staring. Hipp but the reality is they're prisons.

they're prisons for animals that didn't. do anything wrong but it's a little. different in the sense that their life. outside of prison is pretty messed up. getting kill it's natural it is natural. it's not they're not all getting killed. you know they're doing some killing too. which is also unnatural that you just. feed these things that live to kill I. guess the zoo is better for the prey. it's definitely better why I used to. have a joke about that too about the. only animal that I don't feel bad about. in the zoo is giraffes they're having a. great time they don't seem to have any.

problem with it at all like another day. with no Lions well it's like yeah if. that's jail like freedom of them just. getting chased by like if if you if you. were in prison and outside of prison you. could just get eaten at any time prison. wouldn't look so bad well as long as. they have a big enough enclosure and. they can walk around they don't seem to. have any problem with it yeah it sucks. for the Predators cuz they can't like. hunt exactly and then they always put. the tiger like next to the giraffe or. the line just to [ __ ] with them which is. so. it's a little cruel you imagine being a. tiger and you're like I can't.

believe you forget cuz you have bad. memory oh he's right there [ __ ] what the. [ __ ] [ __ ] suckers yeah they uh they're. kind of cruel with that put them in. different places well you shouldn't put. them there at all it's C the whole. thing's crazy and I I get it does. protect some endangered species but boy. I think if we really care about animals. we should put a lot more money into it. and there should be a lot larger spaces. it shouldn't be anything remote. resembling a zoo and it's always weird. who gets the big space am at the.

Louisville Zoo like there's a wolf who. just got like [ __ ] like 12 acres and. then a snow leopard's like in like a. little diarama with a cage on it it's. sick the way they do it in Africa is the. way to do it if you really want to go. see an animal you should go on a [ __ ]. Safari and drive through these areas. where they're they're killing gazel and. they're doing normal lion [ __ ] this is a. normal lion in a lion environment and. you drive through it and it's probably. dangerous as [ __ ] and keep your [ __ ]. windows roll you know that lady from the. Game of Thrones one of the um uh one of.

the video I think one of the video. editors or one of the editors from The. Game of Thrones got killed by a line in. one of those parks in the Safari she. rolled her window down and she was. leaning out to take a photo or something. the cat reached and grabbed her oh my. God I saw one of those videos where the. people in the car and like that one one. of them the I think it's a tiger not a. Tiger It's Africa but it was a lion. coming up to the car and they're looking. at it and the lion just opened the door. like put fall the door to open they're. like lock the [ __ ] door man imagine a.

little skinny ass piece of window that. you could put your head through easy and. there's a lion right outside of it he. can put his head through it easily yeah. he doesn't know but if he just [ __ ]. smashes his head it'll go right through. that thing he's a lion if he's just like. crazy that day if he just decides to pop. it with his paw it's just going to burst. well that's what's crazy about the tiger. who killed the kid it's like they were. like he can't get out unless he's. really wants to it's like don't protect. it from him really wanting to as well.

you know but they didn't have the proper. height fence yeah yeah they not only do. they not have a roof on it the fence was. 2 feet shy of what a tiger can jump over. it was only even a three foot wall what. I don't I'm that's leaving over a. three-foot wall and out of its enclosure. no no no no no no no they might have. misunderstood when they wrote this. article but that's what this says I. don't think that's correct I'm I'm. almost POS. I'm almost positive that it was 14t long.

oh the wall was 1.2 M 4T shorter than. the recommended minimum but it was it. was more than 3 feet I think it was 12. feet that hilarious it was actually 3. feet and they're like what what's the. problem that's crazy that it's 4 foot. shy I'm reading multiple articles this. one is even this was also weird I. thought it happened in 2011 and this. says it was 2008 so I'm kind of confused. on that. too maybe it's more than one of those. but this was the same person that died. in both articles oh weird they're trying. to say they were on drugs it's like yeah. this is the guys were doesn't mean they.

deserve to die one me three foot wall. that's so crazy I could jump a 3ot wall. how that's not real I could try there's. there's no way get you on the third try. yeah you could probably at least get. over the top of it there's no way it was. that's no there's no way that's this. tall that's crazy that would be. hilarious if they just made it 3 feet. different they're like he doesn't you. know from the San Francisco newspaper. what does that one say a picture of what. it was. the wall bro that's pretty high says oh.

the new glass wall makes it 19 feet but. it looks the current wall used to be 12. feet so that's where it was and the. tiger jumped over that and now they gave. him an extra 5T [ __ ] that place tiger. could have made that jump on the. distance they said it was too far it. looks like it's built to have that tiger. jump off that top part onto the thing. it's like it's built so he can jump out. did they say the tiger jump from the. bottom or the Tiger jumped from that top. part the articles I was reading when it. first happened they weren't sure what. the [ __ ] happened they were like it.

doesn't make sense that it happened they. were like they someone must have helped. it what that's them covering their ass. it is a little bit of that cuz that's. them covering their ass they know. exactly what happened there was. eyewitnesses people saw it happen also. who could have helped it yeah so that's. what it looked like I guess so that's. the first picture I've seen of that oh. my God imagine that thing coming over. the top of. that that's the threefoot fence I think. that they were saying exactly but wait. so Pine if they're throwing Pine is this. the pine cones thing or yeah so that it.

had to be below if they're throwing pine. cones no it could be over there they. could throw it over the ridge you think. it got all the way to the yeah yeah you. can throw that that that's not that far. no no no no that looks like 15 yards max. let me see that again let me see that. photo again yeah that doesn't look that. far dude it's a big jump though I guess. you can jump for a cat I don't know if. he made the jump I think he made the. jump from the bottom that's yeah the AR. the the one that was confusing said that. it was basically in these bushes when.

they [ __ ] when they were standing on. this rail throwing [ __ ] at it and then. they got too close and found out like. there was one way closer than they. thought that's not what I heard I know I. know it doesn't make sense I don't know. that what I had heard was the thing was. over there they were continuing to throw. things at it and it came towards them. and jumped over the wall which only. makes sense oh I witnessed accounts. statements from the here's already my. confusion though this is from 2011 and. those last two articles were 2008. H well maybe they didn't release the. whole story until 2011 2008 right here.

yeah there it is okay so say the lawsuit. yeah they should [ __ ] sue for sure I. mean definitely you shouldn't throw pine. cones at tigers they don't deserve to. die you're a [ __ ] kid you're a. dumbass kid that could have been us if. we were both 17 and I'd go I dare you to. throw a pine cone come on [ __ ] just a. pine con from the bottom of the. moat to the dry moat to the top of the. wall wow. no that's crazy from the bottom of the. dry mode so they got into the bottom of.

yeah like I thought the bottom of I. can't imagine jumping out unless it was. provoked yeah but it shouldn't be able. to jump out if it's provoked yeah that's. so crazy you should have a backup plan. for the Tiger's emotions yeah also why. don't you have guards to make sure that. someone doesn't do something like that. the tiger can't get out as long as it's. the Tiger's. chill wow followed someone's blood trail. for about 300 yards where it resumed. attacks oh oh my God photo show blood. smeared asphalt where the tiger. apparently dragged s's body it found the.

blood trail the tiger would leave a kill. to go after something else unless it. were a compelling reason oh my God. another victim blaming the tiger passed. exhibits with War Hogs which it ignored. as it followed the blood trail of the. two brothers to the Terrace Cafe outside. the dining area this is a real what are. they wearing what were they wearing you. know what I mean that's exactly what it. is they were high or like what what a. black person gets kill and they they try. to uh vilify the black guy they're like. he was on drugs it's kind of like that.

they're like he was high he was they. should have provoked him it's like you. should have a cage where a tiger can't. get out on any mood the Tiger's in. whether he's happy or mad they should. test every mood yeah and see if he could. jump out in any of the moods also what. if it killed some old lady who was just. there with her her niece you know. showing her around and what if you know. who the [ __ ] knows what could have. happened you're you're just guessing and. it didn't even kill the FR it didn't. even kill the guy killed the other guy I. don't know who it killed now I'm saying. that I'm trying to remember but I bet it.

killed it killed the younger of the. three the other two were brothers that. were not killed who was the one that. threw the pine cones were they all. throwing them I don't I doubt I haven't. found out it sucks that they know that. that tiger was like maybe they were all. throwing on pine cones maybe I heard the. story wrong or the Tiger was just. clearly more annoyed by one of them like. one of them had a more annoying face. it's whoever the [ __ ] is closest yeah. yeah who's closest who's the who's gonna. get taken out first this thing has never. had a chance to take out anything yeah. it's a little I mean the whole reason. they exist is they are the cleanup crew.

for nature anything that has a limp. anything that does something stupid you. go walking through the thick grass. that's a wrap that's what they're there. for they're there they're there for. overpopulation yeah yeah because they. exist around Deer yeah of course they. exist around a very specific kind of. deer it's called an axis deer and these. deer move like lightning dude yeah you. ever see the axis deer no I don't think. so they [ __ ] CH they take off like. it's crazy because they evolved around. Tigers right so they they just explode.

away so fast so a lot of time you see. those water buffalo moving they seem to. completely forget about tigers or lions. until they jump out and then they're. like oh [ __ ] and then they all run away. not that many lions eat water buffalos. no they're so big they're too dangerous. you could get a broken jaw broken leg. they stomp your head you're dead but. yeah I agree that Predators it sucks for. them in a zoo but you never want to have. a zoo as just prey that would kind of. suck reported that her claws were not fr. suggesting that she made the 12 9 in. leap on her first attempt oh my God Dr.

dunker also reported that there was no. disease or signs of trauma on the body. other than bullet wounds for the for the. cat Jesus Christ do you know there's uh. one specific uh tribe of lions in Africa. that does hunt water buffalo because. they got stranded on an island the the. the currents change to this River and. these lions got stranded on this island. that only has water buffalo oh and so. the female lions evolve to become much. larger than normal female lions they.

look like Hulk Lions it's crazy it's. called a Relentless enemies cuz they're. the hunters the females right yes the. females are the hunters so they got as. big as male lions so the female hunters. are as they're Jack too like they look. freakish because they have to take out. water buffalo all the time have you seen. the the video the best nature video I. mean it's very the one about the water. Buffalo's walking and the lion comes and. they like it's like four lions and they. never go after the big one it's always. like four them after like a baby water. Bell like a wheelchair he like and they.

push him into the water and then a. crocodile comes out of the water and. grabs water buffalo the baby and then. the the the lions are like having a. tug-of-war with like the crocodile it's. like insane have you seen that seen that. yeah I have seen that um but uh that's. crocodiles are the ultimate Cleanup Crew. yeah you see if you can find that. Relentless enemies thing cuz you got to. see what these females Lions looked like. I can show it to us we always get in. trouble right just show it to us cuz. these female lions they don't even look. real they look like CGI Lions they're. super jacked so the female lions are.

normally smaller but they are the hunter. they're the hunters but this uh this. documentary Relentless see you find one. of the images of the Jack look at look. at what she's built like jeez she's. built like a male that's insane she's. [ __ ] arms are huge yeah huge because. they have to take out water buffalo. she's like a female bodybuilder it's a. great documentary though it's because. it's just about nature adapting right. like look at the size of her oh my god. there so much. bigger and you know they have to be. because these [ __ ] things are.

ruthless I mean water buffalo are huge. and they're tough as [ __ ] you can hang. off them with their claws and they don't. even notice it yeah they always have. like bugs on them and they don't notice. like yeah [ __ ] [ __ ] life have you. done this have you done the Safari no my. my buddy mcab uh Dan mcab my friend uh. he did it and he sent me a footage of a. lion like killing a like a prey right in. front of him yeah he just filmed it yeah. and you're in those open Jeeps yeah yeah. what is that about yeah lock that [ __ ].

up what is that about they just haven't. figured out yet that they can get you. people love it's like the zoo they love. to have it all open they love to just. like you know push it as far as they can. bro I want to be in an Iron Man suit. with a chain mail gun yeah one of those. chain guns I don't I do not want to I. like how you said Iron Man Too like it's. a real thing if I had one like those. Iron Man suits what happened. power went out still recording over. there is the video recording the video.

still that's the only thing recording. the video is the only thing recording. can we keep going or should we stop you. can in the keep oh there it goes again. it's the hottest day of the year I. having that problem with AC being. overpowered but yeah I mean I'll turn. everything back on is today the hottest. day of the year so far yeah it's going. to be 107 oh god um I we're still. recording really yeah the camera's shut. off and on too though they I don't know. to TI I. the screen's still on cameras are still. on that's still moving time's still.

going how hot is it today 106 107 God it. didn't feel like it the uh you ever be. at a club where the lights I don't know. what to do we might want to stop for. like five minutes to make sure this. doesn't keep happening while we have the. opportunity before it [ __ ] up more I. don't know your call but it's recording. right yeah but if it's it it's flickered. four or five times right what could. possibly happen it stops recording. it'll flick it again like while we have. a chance for it to stop might want to. take a break that's all I'm saying okay.

we'll take a little PE break we'll come. back ladies and gentlemen and non-binary. folk now we're up oh we were just about. to complain about the government or. whoever it is they're cracking down on. our controversial TS on lines and it's. YouTube man they're trying to ban Free. Speech man yeah I just got an update. uh there's a local outage take two hours. to get everybody else's power up I we. got lucky I guess oh okay feel.

privileged is it a brown out is this one. of them brown outs I got a notice for my. house says Austin Energy outage may. affect until 4:38 p.m. that's Texas has. its own grid which is great until it's. not I've read the new the Articles it. got real close apparently during the uh. cold front it got real close they were. like 30 minutes away from losing the. whole grid no my friend was my best. friend from here Zach and he he was here. during the the when they had to like. what melt the snow or whatever the what. it just became like uh it was crazy some.

crazy survival thing that was the first. year we lived here no one knows how to. drive in the snow it was hilarious yeah. now I remember that um people with. Corvettes like spinning around an. intersections no he was melting snow why. was he melting like they had to melt. snow for something it was for what I. don't know it was like the the when. there was like that movie. alive they melted snow for water he was. for water yeah I think I think the the. yeah pipes froze yeah yeah that makes. sense it was crazy yeah yeah you got to. have some water folks keep some water in.

your house it's a good move yeah if you. if you're in a place that that happens. like that and they so like if this. happens in Boston they know how to deal. with snowy roads they fix things easy. they plow you know everything back. online anytime there's snow it all shuts. down for they don't plows like hey guys. I've been here twice and it's snowed how. about buy a [ __ ] plow you know have. one yeah yeah I guess it just have. happen enough for them to you know yeah. but uh that's so stupid yeah no I know I.

Louisville was I'm from Louisville. Kentucky it's kind of like that too. whenever it's snow to shut down the. whole city it's funny if you grow up in. a place like I grew up in Boston which. is like snow is just noral notice it's. just normal it's part up snowing out did. you even have like did school ever close. it had a [ __ ] snow so that you miss. schol to like closing school was such a. fun experience happened every time we. did have them we did have snow days cuz. it did [ __ ] snow but in places like.

there if it's just snowing a little they. let you go to school go to school [ __ ]. was there anything better than a snow. day it was so exciting amazing a day off. I think I learned more in snow days than. I did in any other day of course and. then you'd be at you'd be like watching. the TV waiting for your county to be. listed as like the one that and like. [ __ ] like please I can stay home watch. cartoons please it was it was No Greater. Joy than a snow day oh it was wonderful. and now the snow sucks you hate it. someone should redesign School school's. terrible yeah yeah it's just the whole. design of getting kidss to sit down all. day it's [ __ ] terrible we wake them.

up at like farmer times like we wake. them up I used to get up at like 5: in. the morning like I was a farmer yeah and. your parents would just go back to bed. they're like we don't go they just get. up and then they go back to sleep I'd be. on the bus at like 5: in the morning. terrible for kids and then they say we. have ADD we're [ __ ] tired yeah tired. and bored yeah and this show this thing. you're doing in front of me sucks I got. back to the ader all thing so I got. addicted and I up what did you start off. with how much were you taken in the. beginning I think probably like 30.

milligrams right away yeah whoa I think. maybe a little you said 20 kept you up. for two days a lot yeah I mean I'm not a. user but 20 was plenty I don't like how. I said user like that like I'm not a I'm. not a user like this junky I don't like. how you said I'm not a. user I got so you started off with 30s. yeah did you start taking it every day. or yeah right away yeah recreationally. first recreationally then I got the. prescription so FDA approved so you did. listen as psychiatrist I did listen she. is a doctor yes but then I started.

taking more and having to buy them off. the street and then I uh at one point I. couldn't get any and I this kid I knew. this kind of bad seed I asked him if he. had any had like something he said his. uncle made it was like a synthetic drug. turned out to be bass salts I ended up. taking them I was a uh greeter at uh H&R. Block you know the tax place and I just. like B basically had this horrible Panic. meltdown like I like it kicked in and I.

just thought I was about to die I. remember I called my twin sister I I. freaked her out I was like I think I'm. about to die goodbye and then I hung up. and then she called back and she was. like call the ambulance they called the. ambulance my heart rate was at like aund. like I don't know probably what yours is. when you're exercising but it was it was. fast it was fast for. me probably was normal no it's was like. 190 like crazy [ __ ] and I yeah I totally. that's red lining it was crazy yeah I. almost died and then I I ended up going. to rehab for Aderall which is kind of.

embarrassing how hard was it to kick you. know I weaned off which was if you wean. off I think it's okay cold turkey is not. for me so what did you you said you were. up to 90 a day so how'd you wean you. know just 80 one week really I think. something like that yeah so were you. completely functional when you were on. it or were you out of your mind no no I. was functional I was annoying that was. that was the thing I was annoying oh you. couldn't stop talking yeah I got really. annoying. uh and that it ended up like people just. that's the thing people think drugs will.

you know I'm not like a crazy person but. I just annoyed everyone right and so the. intervention was more like you're really. annoying you talk. nonstop and then I got off and was kind. of the. same it wasn't that different I'm like. no that's just me and you're a lot of. work it's actually a perk yeah exactly. it's actually a plus but I miss it I. mean I don't I could never do it again. but I I miss it it was a great it's it's. it was my favorite drug it made you cuz. I have you know like everyone low. self-esteem and when you did it it made. me it made me just write I just was so.

productive on it really yeah cuz it it. when I write I mean I've gotten better. at it now over the years but when I. write you have that voice telling you. it's [ __ ] and you can't like move. forward oh and and this the Aderall like. this was before I was I was doing. standup a little but writing screenplays. and stuff and the Aderall gave me the. confidence to just [ __ ] plow through. it it wasn't all good but some of it was. good you know well I mean that's why. they were prescribing it to people back. in the day when they first came up with. it like in Nazi Germany even before they. were giving it to the Nazis you could.

buy that what was it called Perka what. is it called per per pervon pervon. that's the Hitler speed well it was the. it was the for sale version of. methamphetamine that you could buy at. drugstores yeah and people would just. take it it was like a low dose it's. essentially just like that's it right. there kind of real similar to Aderall in. a lot of ways but it was a you know it. was methamphetamine oh right and you. just could take it this is like over. the- counter right yeah it's back when.

they had like heroin that. methamphetamine hydrochloride oh man. that's crazy so it was a small dose and. people would take it all day long and it. gave them all this energy to get things. done I mean think about the engineering. that was coming out of Germany at the. same time kind of nuts focused they were. [ __ ] dialed in he was really focused. on that Jew hating that really that's. feed really focused yeah if he wasn't on. it he probably wouldn't have killed as. many people well if he wasn't on.

everything he was on oxycodone and they. were giving him all these crazy animal. um hormones he was having them remove. animal organs and they were injecting. glands into Hitler's body he was like. they're practicing on it but here's. here's what I don't get I've done. oxycodone and when I'm on it I'm very. loving I love everyone he was on it and. he was still hating it if if that if. like he should have been like I love the. juice great like the oxyon should have. made him like more lovey doy yeah that's. why I was confused too cuz I had always. heard that it was meth cuz I knew that.

there was meth use and I knew that. Hitler likeed cocaine and they used to. shoot him up with testosterone too and. that makes sense like you're a meth. you're like we got a problem I'm focused. I'm going to commit to it but the oxy. it's like when rush limbal you found out. he was on oxy he was always so like. angry and I feel like if I was on oxy. I'd be like everything's going to work. out bro he was on like 90 pills a day. but where like the love he did so much. they think it's part of the reason why. went deaf really yeah Rush Lio yeah. there's actually like a thing that. happens when you overdose on op take too.

much opiates it fries your [ __ ] ears. but why like to have all that hate on. the painkillers I just don't get when. I'm on painkillers I love my enemies I. think it's cuz you're a nice guy oh I. like I like that spin I think I think. who you are like at your core like why. you operate in life what whatever you're. taking whether it's alcohol or pot or. whatever it only enhances that Who You. Are your core so if you're like an evil. person deep down but you're covering it. and then you get drunk and you get.

really vicious with people those people. are probably already vicious inside of. them right that's that's totally true or. if you're a happy drunk you're probably. a good guy and you need a couple of. drinks to feel loose and now you're fun. you're having a good time you know. you're loving you're hugging everybody. no that's a good point it's like when I. used to drink I would like tell people I. love them now I'm sober I don't tell. anyone I love now I'm sober I just I I'm. worse sober right like I'm just like. rigid you that's the benefit of some. drugs is that they allow you to relax.

whatever insecurities you have and just. be cool with people so uh my girlfriend. um speaking of drugs she's on uh like. serious blood thinners because she just. had a stroke oh Jesus Christ uh how old. is like a couple weeks ago she's 85. and I no she so when we started dating. uh two two and a half years ago she had. she was about to get open heart. surgery yeah like she told me that on. her first date oh my God God yeah and uh. is this like something she was born with. it was a conative heart thing mitro.

valve uh she had a mitro valve leak oh. Jesus and she found it out she's 37 and. so four months into our dating she got. open heart surgery oh my God yeah and. then everything was going well and then. like this is like this month like uh I. don't maybe a month ago I'm going to see. a screening of my friend's movie this. really great comic Isabella Hagen had. funded her own movie I'm going to see it. we're going to meet and she calls me and. she says her she can't see out of her. left eye she's on the subway and we had. to like call an ambulance and like rush.

to the hospital and like the crazy thing. is the ambulance did not take us right. away like we got in there and they like. had to make her fill out her insurance. oh my God for like 20 minutes oh my God. that's great with one eye with one eye. oh my God that's so crazy I thought an. ambulance just goes I thought they go. too they were like getting the insurance. she's like dying they're like What's. your group member ID number oh my God. and then they fin went and there was no. siren we just had the ambulance without. the siren which was oh my God pointless.

you know um and so ambulance in traffic. ambulance and traffic we get to this. like er type place they think she's. having a stroke and we had like a person. on TV it was like Black Mirror they got. like some neurologist who's like on. vacation she just they brought the TV in. like a uh like a TV and she was on the. video the camera was moving around the. room looking at people it was so bizarre. and she said if it's a stroke she had to. go on like really intense like uh blood. thinners for the day and that they were.

so intense that if she even bumped her. head she could get bleeding in the brain. so they had to like observe her for like. a day on these really like she couldn't. go anywhere cuz if she she bled so. easily on these blood thinners right she. said to stay put yeah so they gave it to. her she started bleeding out of her. mouth right away she had like a cut in. herou she was like smiling like blood. coming out of her mouth and uh and then. um and then the craziest part is so they. had to take her to the ICU to observe. her but we weren't at an ICU we at like. er that didn't have people stay the.

night so we had to even though she was. on these blood thinners cuz you had to. go on them for four hours they had to. put her an ambulance in the rain and we. had to drive to a place where she. couldn't move for a day cuz she could. get if she got hit her head was like on. the glass oh my God it was. insane yeah it was. insane the a lot of problem with like. EMTs and people like that it's problem. but it's part of the job is they get. real accustomed to people being [ __ ]. up and dying I know they yeah they.

didn't seem to be that urgent it's kind. of crazy like I've talked to friends. that worked as EMTs and they have the. most morose senses of humor I know and. they're so used to people dying and they. tell you story they all have PTSD. they're all [ __ ] up they all get the. gunshot wounds and they all they all see. the wor [ __ ] car accidents the worst. [ __ ] motorcycle crashes for us it was. like a huge emergency but for them it's. that's just a stroke. Jes her head's intact whatever oh my God. it's so crazy she she lost she doesn't.

she can't get it back she has like a. blind spot in right now oh my God yeah. no way it's coming back or she's gotten. used to seeing out both eyes but when. she closes one eye there's like this. it's like your forehead would be like a. little wided out oh wow and I don't. think it's going to come back she's. doing great she's like handle it very. well but yeah it's uh it was sad we left. the hospital after like a couple days. and uh it the saddest part is like we. went outside and there was like a. sunrise or Sunset and she was like I. can't it doesn't look very pretty to me.

oh no yeah it was awful but she's gotten. a lot she I think she can see a lot. she's more adjusted to it but I feel so. old I'm like my girlfriend had a stroke. I got a pami sandwich for her there and. I felt like just an old Jewish couple. just eating a pastrami sandwich with. after one of them had a stroke after one. of them had a stroke like yeah take your. pastrami. o but uh you know I never thought in a. million years I'd be the health one in. the. relationship that's the luck of the draw.

it's nice it evens out like when she had. open heart surgery we were both I I make. a bit about this but we were both kind. of equally out of breath after that we'. go up Subway stairs and we'd both just. be like oh Jesus Christ yeah but she's. doing she's doing uh she's doing great. and she's you know she she handles it. very well she's she's like a better. person than me which is kind of annoying. so even in the hospital she was like. super worried about she's a therapist. she was super worried about like her. patience while she was having the stroke. oh wow it's kind of annoying when people.

are like that good yeah you're like yeah. well that's the kind of therapist you. want hope she doesn't get Jaded by the. world not yet um therapist that's. another one I mean you got to think. everyone's out of their [ __ ] mind. because everybody you're talking to is. out of their [ __ ] mind oh yeah and. she sees people like it's you know she. she helps she's a social workers. therapist so she helps people who have. like you know typically can't afford. like so it's not it's not white people. problem therapy right it's like you know. safety planning yeah you know how do I.

you know that kind of stuff it's not. like I feel unhappy it's like your. husband beats you how do we get you out. of the house kind of stuff you know boy. yeah she has intense life but it it it. it's good it's nice to date because to. me the hardest part about dating someone. is their job they have to tell boring. work stories and you just have to deal. with it right but her stories are never. boring they're always like insane [ __ ]. you know I guess that's better I. mean it's better than pretending you.

care about like her friend being mad at. her at the you know whatever after a. certain point in time you might look for. that yeah I'm looking for nonsense talk. now I like heavy do you I think so even. when she told me she had about to get. open heart surgery I mean I I liked her. I didn't get excited but I was like I'm. not I I don't I don't like shy away from. that stuff you know that's probably a. good sign yeah yeah no it feels like. we've been married for like 25 years now. wow yeah you've gone through a lot right.

yeah you really learn about someone. someone's going through heart surgery. how do you react to it in the hospital. when she had it there's like have you. ever been to the hospital someone get. surgery there's like a giant terminal. thing that shows everyone's names and it. says like in the middle if they're in. the middle surgery or not and then. sometimes it'll just flash canceled and. you're like did that person die but I. think they just like yeah but yeah it's. intense. but I got a couple good bits out of it. and that's what's important did she get. upset that you have bits about it uh.

no maybe she she might have been. Disturbed a little by the speed which. I well it's tough I was in a rut a. little and you know sometimes you're in. a rut with comedy and then something. crazy happens it just starts coming you. know what I mean yeah the problem is if. it involves someone else we get in that. we get in that uh argument a lot yeah. which I get I mean she's not a comedian. she doesn't give a sh like I just want.

to be personal right I want to bravely. disclos all her. personal would have bravely disclosed. all her and how much trouble you're. having deal with her open heart yeah I'm. very brave for bringing this stuff up. about you absolutely I feel that. way but uh but yeah no but she's yeah. she's amazing um and yeah it's my first. like serious relationship and I'm. already in like like serious and I'm. already it's I went from like your first. ever serious one like moving in with the.

person oh wow I know I'm like 40 but. you're a comic and it's like it's so. hard for Comics to just settle down to. just staying put and doing things with a. person and hang you're just so used to. just running from Club to club and set. to set and meeting your friends and it. just becomes a bizarre lifestyle. especially when I moved to New York I. got into the cellar and at that point. like it's really hard to date people. because you get a lot of spots and you. can't see anyone but uh yeah your night. times are filled yeah exactly and they. get mad like you don't have to do a S.

tonight but I do yeah you have to yeah I. remember when I was dating this girl I. was 25 and she was like you don't have. to go up tonight I'm like but I do I. suck I need to get better this is only. one way to do it I know but I I am. working with like my therapist about. realizing that like um you know I always. for years so the person you're in. relationship with is somehow like an. enemy of your artistic process you know. like there to stifle you it's it's an. unhealthy way of thinking and I've tried. to work about how did you develop that. way of thinking you think.

[Music]. um I think my mom though she's great was. like pretty overbearing like a Jewish. mother and I think I she was so um kind. of like always like overbearing like. always wanting to know what was going on. that I think my response was just like. go in my room and shut people out and so. I think I'm afraid and she you know. she's a Jewish mother so she just tells. me what everything to do at all times. right so I think I've Associated. intimacy with someone I came up with. this with my therapist brought this up.

I'm not smart enough to realize this but. I think I associate intimacy with. someone trying to stifle me or smother. me you know as opposed to like something. where you're trying to you know be in. something but that also can happen if. you're with someone who. has they don't understand like if they. have unreal expectations they expect you. to just quit doing like I had a friend. and he he was a good comic and he was. this woman who wanted him to get a job. and he was doing pretty good you know he. wasn't like headlining all the places.

but he was middling quite a few places. and like he had some bits that were. bangers he had some good bits and he. could have been a really good comic when. he and then he got divorced a couple. years later like ianded him three years. later he got divorced he was trying to. do comedy again but he hadn't done. comedy in three years and he lost all of. his momentum and he couldn't get spots. and no one gave a [ __ ] and everybody. else had kind of moved on and moved up. and that's a bad relationship because. she doesn't understand him or like she. thinks like my thing is my girlfriend. doesn't think that way and I sometimes. find myself projecting that onto her.

right because I project like like she'll. just be like I don't I'm not comfortable. with you doing this joke and I'm like. quit trying to silence me I think the. thing was with this guy is that he was. in his 30s and it hadn't happened yet. yeah and it was one of those probably. the parents like what is he doing what. if he doesn't make it you know right. right like have you ever experienced. that I had a girl that I was dating when. I was 2 and her father said that like. what if he doesn't make it like that I'm. fck first of all I'm [ __ ] 21 right.

I'm a little kid leave me alone [ __ ]. but second of all like who know yeah. he's right like who [ __ ] knows I. might not make it but I'm gonna try I'm. not going to not try because I might not. make it that's a pussy's way to live. life of course and like yeah I mean you. have to like I don't know I mean to me. it's not about make it it's about if you. love something do it and do it if even. if you're broke I mean to me it's I. don't believe in like I don't I don't. think of things as having a safety plan. David mammed I think it was him said.

that like don't have a safety plan CU. you'll end up falling back on it yeah. that's common yeah don't have a net. don't have a net you will fall I think. you just have to if you love some like. for me I love comedy I love like making. movies I'm focused on that that's. wonderful but there are guys that are. doing Open Mic nights for 25 [ __ ]. years and they're still terrible yes. maybe those guys should move on oh 100%. right that's I'm saying the question is. are you one of those people right right. and you well at 21 I really didn't know. if I was one of those people but you. have to at least give it a chance and if.

you're dating someone that doesn't want. you to do something wild and take a. chance like this is not going to work. yeah it's definitely good especially if. you have a kid I feel like it's. definitely good to already have a career. of some like I I I have a career it's. not like amazing but it's a career yeah. and that helps like it's like I am. making money so like but it it's really. tough if you like don't make money and. then get in a relationship espe you have. a kid oh if you have a kid and you're. starting out as a comic boy that is a. [ __ ] uphill SLO you're [ __ ] cuz then.

you're also selfish now like you're. selfish if you're taking spots when you. should be getting so that's that's tough. you know what I mean well if you live in. the city at least you can do it when. everyone's asleep right right you know I. did when I was living in La I would do. 10:00 shows so I'd be at home and then. everybody's basically going to bed I'm. like I'm going out I'm going to go do. shows so I do shows from 9:00 p.m. on. that's true but how was was it hard when. you first had a kid like yeah it's crazy. that's got to be tough doing comedy like. it's crazy but it's also you. know the thing is like they go to bed.

early and as long as you have a spouse. that understands what's going on and. she's cool with it you can go out and do. sets yes but if you're starting out then. and this is like this pipe dream that. you have and you're not making any money. doing it that's a totally different. thing like I was already a headliner I. was already on television I was already. making money like that's how we made. money I had to go do comedy exactly so. that's a job but it's not a dream dream. you know it's like if you're chasing a. dream and you're 36 and you have three. kids and you want to quit your job at.

the accounting company like yikes bro. now you're kind of being an [ __ ] well. it's also it's like what are the you. better get really [ __ ] good before. you quit that job like and how are you. going to have the time to get really. [ __ ] good yeah exactly you want to. like if you're G to have a kid I think. we talked about we it's possibility at. some point it's like you want to at. least make enough money in your career. that if you had a kid you'd actually. just have to work harder at your career. as opposed to getting another career. right exactly exactly and it's like. there's a lot of people that are they. have the dream of standup but they.

probably haven't really gone at it 100%. yeah well that's the they still have. this thing in the back of their head. that one day they will and one day. they'll really bear down and really. start writing and really start. performing more often and going up more. than twice a week and and they just. don't and then they get into the. situation where like oh my God. everyone's kind of passed me by and all. the guys I started out with are now. working professionals touring the road. and I'm still stuck in LA right right. right yeah you have to I mean you have. to work hard at it we were talking about. if we had a kid like I was like talking.

to her I was like well you would you. know on the weekend I'd be on the road. but during the during the day during the. week I'd babysit the kid and she's like. doesn't feel like you're very serious if. you're referring to it as baby. babysit your own kid yeah you can't say. does like what you do all day I Babys. sap oh whose kids mine what doesn't seem. like you're really committed to it. babysit the kit yeah very clear. responsibility and it's not yours I'll. do your job for you if you want to take. a nap that that you go back since kid.

for you you do back to being the boss of. the kids just pay me $10 and a. half give me give me what number to call. if anything goes wrong yeah that's. hilarious but yeah it's uh yeah having a. kid is scary but you know um I think. it's good you know I think it's good but. it's not good for everybody and it's not. good depending upon what kind of. relationship you're in right you. definitely can't do it to save a. relationship oh my God I've seen that. happen before like what are you doing.

are you crazy you guys are about to. break up and now you're having a kid. yeah that doesn't work no one's like. we're about to break keep us together. yeah but sort of I guess yeah I mean you. always talk I feel like kids break. people apart more than anything they. break some people apart they bring some. people closer they definitely brought me. and my wife closer really yeah it's not. a it doesn't have to be a negative thing. it's just like Comics look at it as a. thief of their time I know you know and. you know Louis said it best he said you. just got to let it change you yeah yeah. yeah you know I thought that was really.

good advice it because it definitely. changes you and you can't resist it you. just got to be who you are now you're. just a different person now now now. you're a person that's watching babies. come out of your wife's body and then. grow up and talk to you and you take. them to do things together and you have. fun laughing together it's like this. very strange thing where a life that did. not exist now exists right and you love. it more than anything you've ever loved. in your life you love this person and. you love it no matter if the kid is like. telling a boring story like it goes. beyond like was your friends you're like.

every story's got to be entertaining you. know but with people you love it's like. you just love them I talk to my kids. about the most boring. [ __ ] that it to them it's not boring you. know like they like to talk about bands. they like and stuff they like and it's. interesting you know it's fascinating to. watch their little Minds grow and the. way they interface with the world and. see them develop skills and things yeah. all my siblings have kids they're. they're a lot of fun uh it's time to do. it if you're 40 I know I keep on acting. like I'm rushing I keep on acting like. I'm rushing into things I'm like I don't.

know it seems so quick and then I'm like. wait I'm 40 years. old I always think I'm rushing into. things when it's actually like the last. chance or at least the last chance of. the you know we we will it's going to be. a little on hold because of the stroke. yeah I would say that's probably a good. move Jesus Christ well she's on blood. thins now she's like a hemophiliac how. long um what how long does she have to. stay on those uh for until they figure. out what kind of caused it Roger Al was. a hemophiliac mhm was he yeah yeah yeah. yeah Jesus that's a scary one I know.

every anybody could just punch you to. death yeah or just yeah give you a. bloody nose and you bleed out yeah it's. crazy that's nuts yeah that's how she w. i mean she's not like that now but in. the ICU she's basically hemophiliac yeah. and so she has to stay on these for how. long I think they're trying to find out. exact they still don't know what caused. the stroke wow they assume it's. something to do with a heart surgery. makes sense either that or God hates her. and just giving her a bunch of [ __ ] a. double whammy to deal with but uh but I. think it's yeah I think they'll find out.

but yeah hopefully not I mean I think. she'd have to get off if we had a kid. yeah um but yeah I have like six six. nephews and nieces So you you're you've. got baby fever a little bit seems like. you keep talking about it um little bit. little bit little touch little touch but. also. fever but also like also like not having. a kid I don't know they both have good. points and bad points for sure I don't. think everybody needs to you know. there's a lot of people that have kids. that say everybody should have a kid I.

think you can have a wonderful life. without having children I think it's. totally possible but well the people. killed their kids probably should have. had kids everybody should have it yeah I. read this horrible story about this. child prodigy that like the mother. trained this child to do then they. rebelled at 18 and she killed them oh my. God yeah oh rebelled against the thing. it's I I forget what I I got so. disturbed by it I I turned the page but. I was reading about this but that person.

shouldn't have had a kid yeah well there. a lot of psychos that their kid is just. a representation of them it's not an. individual human being it's their. property it's them going through life. you will do what I tell you to do you. will be a lawyer you'll be a football. player whatever the [ __ ] it is like well. that's why the other [ __ ] thing the. people who act like kids make you a. better person that's that's not. everybody that's not true yeah Len it's. like the oxycodone thing yeah who are. you exactly it intensifies it's actually. who you are but now there's like much. bigger moral consequences like you can.

be kind of a dick but it's not that big. of a deal but then if you have a kid and. you're still a dick now you're like a. bad person yeah where before you just. like a kind of a dick or you're just. exuding excellence in. broadcasting. yes kind of makes sense why he's so. cocky the guy was like flying high all. day we rush rush oh yeah that's. excellence in broadcasting yeah that was. his thing right excellence in.

broadcasting Rush Limbo Just to never at. once just be at peace it's like it just. made me think too like this whole idea. of conservatives being like button down. sober people like look at the world. clearly no your [ __ ] main guy is. pilled out of his [ __ ] mind spouting. out nonsense Obama's from Kenya we'll be. right. back they're like they're like the real. [ __ ] hippies on all these drugs yeah. well as long as it's prescribed by a. doctor it's not a drug that's how I go. by it you know the doctor the doctor.

said I I told the doctor I have a Nal. problem they gave me a prescription it's. so funny to be like that I have a real. problem we we'll just prescribe it for. you that is so wild that they said that. to you I know it was insane that's so. wild yeah well you need it you obviously. you're on it you shouldn't get off of it. cuz then you could die or something you. could [ __ ] be slow and not as it was. hard to get off it was hard to like go. back to writing without it you know it's. tough but it you know I had to do it and. uh I can't go back on it now cuz I would.

chain smoke on it and I quit smoking and. honestly that's more worsome like if I. took an ader all I would just chain. smoke again this seems like a lot of. coping a lot of things going on in your. head right now we talking about this. yeah oh wait what do you mean because it. always has a grip on you yeah yeah yeah. it's like I well maybe I could go back. but then I would start chain smoking I. don't want to do that so I don't want to. go back let's do it let's relapse right. now [ __ ] Crush I'm going start. snorting them Lloyd Bridges from. airplane bad day to get back on Aderall. yeah I've avoided those but I've I've. been curious about Aderall have you. never done it nope nope never done never.

done cocaine never done atol so you're. not because you do you do drugs yeah but. I when I was a kid I got very lucky and. uh not lucky but one of my friends his. cousin was addicted to Coke and I. watched this guy's life completely fall. apart he was selling Coke and he it was. like a like he got bit by a vampire like. he was a different person like he was. real skinny and like look all gaunt and. [ __ ] and just coked up all the time and. [ __ ] up you're not supposed to use. your own Supply that's like a big well. he didn't follow the rules you not.

follow the coke I think a lot of them. don't follow he wasn't like a. businessman he was a guy who like got. Coke and sold some of it such a nerd but. he was that's not uh that's not drug. dealer protocol yeah I mean it's from. you know the biggie the 10 Crack. Commandments 10 Crack Commandments don't. get high off your own Supply I uh yeah I. mean I I did a lot of coke back in the. day too it was I mean you see a lot of. sunrises oh yeah which is pretty that's. a good way to look at it I've seen way.

more sunrises now than I would have if I. didn't do cocaine but what about when. you were getting up at Farmer hours you. saw lot of sunrises then too yeah but I. was a kid I didn't appreciate it you. know when you're a kid you're never like. oh well look at a beautiful sunrise and. it's easier to stay awake than it is to. get up yeah yeah yeah that's that's a. good point very good point great point. if you on ader all it's way easier to. just stay up that sounds like a profound. line in a song yeah like a Dylan L it's. EAS when I was young I used to love. staying up all night I used to think it. was awesome that I would be going to bed.

when everybody was running around oh. yeah it is it's my favorite thing it's a. sacred time uh I have this comedian. friend of mine great comic Ben Moore he. uh he he he had awful sleeping schedule. where he would literally go to bed at um. 900 in the morning and woke up at 5:00 P. p.m. and just start his day when. everyone was like ending that was he a. comic yeah he a comic Comic Life yeah. that's a little too much that's a lot. you need sunlight yeah every now and. then you probably shouldn't do that but.

every now and again do it I don't think. it's so bad but I like I mean I I I like. sunlight yeah I like to you know it's. good for you it's how you get vitamin D. how you stay stay healthy but I was when. I was like in my early 20s when I lived. in New York I would stay up all night. all the time really yeah go to bed not. on cocaine it's very impressive just. high on life playing pool mostly oh. you're big pool guy yeah so like I'd go. to the clubs and afterwards go to the. pool hall play pool till 4:00 in the. morning go to a diner W get something to. eat with my friends 6:00 in the morning.

I was hanging out with just complete. dercks uhuh like pool Hustlers and crazy. people and and Comics you know so it was. like no one was normal and so then it. was normal so if I called someone at. 5:00 I said I just woke up they would. think it was funny it's like I was up. all night it was normal it wasn't like. you loser I was like oh you're living. the crazy young life and you liked it. huh yeah it was good times I'm impressed. that you could do that without cocain I. feel like that's very impressive yeah. but when you're playing pool all night. and you're drinking coffee and just. hanging out it's the time and also I was.

so used to it I was soed I didn't have. anything to get up for right I didn't. have a job this when you're doing comedy. yeah I just started making money doing. comedy so I had enough money that I that. comedy for the first time in my life was. like legitimately paying my bills oh wow. paying my rent I had a car like I was. driving around a gigs I was doing like. headliner gigs in Connecticut and Jersey. like 500 bucks there 3 there so every. week I was making like a good amount of. money and I was just having a good time. that's great I always they always talk.

about like the moment where you start. making it you can quit your day job yeah. that never happened I had I would have. day jobs and make a little money on. Comedy and then the day job would want. to fire me because I wasn't there enough. but I'd like no I need this job I don't. make enough in comedy and then they'd. fire me I'd be like forced to like focus. on how many years in did you become a. complete professional I think like 11 oh. wow really did keep a job for do you. think the job held you back or do you. think it helped you no no I only had. like shitty like kind of like part-time.

job I think I I think around N I started. opening for kathle Madigan on the road. and that's when I first started having. money and she was great and it was great. working with she's hilarious she's. amazing and she I really learned a lot. from her and she's one of the best um. and that's when I first kind of had. money where I could like actually move. to New York I think I I had part-time. jobs and I was just living with my. parents and doing comedy on the road. going to like the Looney bins and [ __ ]. taking Greyhounds I took Greyhounds. everywhere it was I I paid my dues I.

would take like a 18 hour Greyhound oo I. did that a couple of times it's insane. it was bus trips to a gig of rough it's. like the DMV on Wheels it's just the. most depressing it's the weirdest. [ __ ] people like where are you in. normal walks of life other than Walmart. you're like yeah how did you even get on. a bus you're like it's oh I've heard. like the craziest [ __ ] on like the. Greyhound is just like an insane but I. that story about the one guy cut a guy's. head off on a Greyhound I used to have a. bit about it cuz you know like other. Comics other other Comics have like the.

observational airplane material but I I. wasn't doing well enough to airplane I'd. open all my bits with Greyhound material. oh wow just got here from the Greyhound. I had a bit about like how was I was. surprised the bus even stopped after. that usually usually they just keep on. going hope the [ __ ] Works itself. out that guy what was he was just like. schizophrenic or something he cut some. guy's head off that was sitting next to. schizophrenic he cut it was a Carney. Canada man who behead bus passenger. granted freedom what the Canadian legal.

system is insane wait what yeah no he. got he he's like he got like out he's. been granted freedom full Freedom yeah. no it's crazy it it when you read this. it'll make you like appreciate americ he. was deemed not criminally responsible. and received mental health treatment a. review board in Manitoba ordered his. discharge without monitoring saying he. did not pose a significant threat. when you behead someone on a bus aren't. you a significant threat I just feel. like once you beheaded someone that's it.

that's it for you oh my God right he. removed his internal organs and ate them. repated stabbed him oh my God C attack. began without warnings alerted by. screams from the victim the driver. stopped the bus and fled with the. passengers as Mr Baker continued his. attack he was found not criminally. responsible in 2009 for the killing. spent seven years in treatment secure. wing of a Patric Hospital The Voice told. me I was the third story of the Bible. that I was like the second coming of. Jesus and I was to save people from a.

space alien attack he also said he was. really sorry for what he had. done it's funny back to back it's the. best that they took completely out of. context generally I'm not a fan of that. but in this in this stretch I put that. back up I like how they talk him. completely out of context and said. really sorry in quotes not even do dot. dot I was killing to prevent space. aliens but also my. bad are you sorry I'm really sorry I'm.

really sorry okay there's something. about really sorry that's just very. funny for that well he definitely. doesn't pose a significant threat to the. safety of the public imagine imagine if. that's your friend this guy cut your. friend's head off and they just let him. out it's insane now I they did a Radio. Lab about this like in America if you. behead someone that's like the end of. your that's a rap as it should be I feel. like she cut off a head there's no. resuscitating your career but there they. just like observed him for a little bit. he believed the victim was an alien well.

he had a he had his reasons do you hear. about the lady in California that smoked. weed and she stabbed her boyfriend she. killed him she stabbed him like 11 times. something crazy and they deemed her not. criminally responsible because she went. psychotic she had a psychotic break was. she really sorry she was really sorry. she was really s she was really sorry I. think she said really really really. really I think we're good I feel like. that guy needed another really don't you. think that is one of those moments where. I go okay if that was a man that did.

that to a woman and had the same excuse. I do not think anybody would buy it no. not for a [ __ ] second just to be like. woman oh 108 times excuse me excuse me. 108 times did I say 11 you said 11 I me. 108 G what the [ __ ] Califor I forgot a. potent strain of pot yeah it's super. potent it was really potent dude relax. stop being so. judgy I mean it was really potent do. they have to call him potent she went to. jail Scott free H she was convicted of.

involuntary manslaughter what is the. difference between involuntary and I. didn't mean to kill him I only stabbed. 108 times yeah I guess involuntary is. but one time should be attempted murder. and if you actually kill them it's. murder well yeah of course that's one. step premeditated comes in for murder. right so you like but wait a minute. isn't it second degree murder if it's. not premeditated man I think that's what. it is I think that's what second degree. murder is like you don't mean to yeah.

manslaughter is an accident isn't it. weird that premeditated is worse because. the other one is kind of like oh he. could kill at any time without warning. but that should get a lesser sentence I. that's the scarier one the premeditated. is like at least you at least you might. know if he's planning it again because. he plans it you know I see what you're. saying reasons like the guy on the bus. is like I could kill anyone at any time. and they're like well that's not as bad. although the two were dating uh speter. told the outlet she never considered. Amelia her official boyfriend and said.

she told him she no longer had any. romantic interest in him two days before. killing. him okay she claimed he was aggressive. intimidating and had a temper she told. the outlet so when he encouraged her to. hit a bong on the day of the stabbing. she gave into the pressure then went. into a deadly psychosis well I think her. Alibi that he was really. annoying he seems super annoying he got. real loud and yelly yeah imagine that. for a he got super shouty [ __ ] that guy.

imagine a guy doing that kind of sorry. quote so we're both. accountable oh my God but there's. obviously been more attention to my part. versus Chad's part the part where the. guy got stabbed 108 times I feel like. people are really focused on me and I. just don't think it's the full story. such sexism and [ __ ] I stabbed 108. times but like he also raised his voice. a lot he got shouty yeah but they're. just focusing on the and he scared me.

okay he [ __ ] rais his voice that's. surprise stabbing someone 111 times were. really sorry 108 that it wasn't that. potent. hyperbole Al I love how they say potent. weed as if super potent as if that's the. Strand like you go to the drugstore. they're like this strand will have you. stab your boyfriend month before the. Fatal encounter Amelia's roommate also. had an extreme reaction after smoking. out of the same bong Goldstein said he. suffered hallucinations in fear of death. but that just sounds like he got too. high that's just what every time I got.

[ __ ] bong does this guy have yeah she. only smoked pot less than a half a dozen. times prior to the stabbing her lawyer. said describing her as a naive user. she's. naive but just imagine the sex is being. reversed she got really yelly and I got. real nervous and uh you know uh I had. only smoked pot like six times before. that oh well then in that case yeah yeah. are you really really sorry well also. like what about her part she was kind of. responsible it's just funny that they're.

using weed like it's like it's a bath. salt or crystal meth or just it was a. really strong weed not high 31% THC. that's pretty high son but it's. like CU his caution for high tolerance. users only yeah but the problem is the. side effects or the effects of marijuana. do not match that at all no it's the. opposite I don't yeah yeah that's that's. I think that's on her Los Angeles based. dispensary found marijuana flower for. sale legally with TH levels as high as.

39% that's even more potent similar. levels were available Friday from a. local competitor but yet no one's. running around stabbing people it's just. so crazy that they accepted that that. sounds so nuts and you talk about victim. blaming what about. Chad Chad was really sh Chad then never. mind yeah his name is Chad never mind. then uh didn't they say that's his name. right hate that name it's not a good. name for a guy that got stabbed. automatically unless her name's Karen. automatically you're going to be Sean it.

was Shawn Sean why' she but it's like. what we said like Chad Chad wait yeah. killing him Chad yeah I don't know why. it says Sean here Chad Chad people don't. even care about the guy [ __ ] name. [ __ ] Chad father Sean I I mean like yeah. that's what we talked about before when. the drug brings out who you are inside. right like the killing of the stabbing. someone 108 times that's that's you you. know also like how do you keep doing. after you do it one or two how do you. keep it's really boring after a while. that's so crazy like your arm must get. tired you stabbed him 108 times actually.

a pretty impressive workout she probably. like hurt herself what about that what. about that she got hurt too what about. that it's a good point yeah it's just I. couldn't imagine ever seeing those roles. reversed there's no way yeah I stabbed. her eight times but here's the thing she. was real Naggy super shouty and I was. pretty high yeah I got really high and I. don't get that high and that all right. you are only smok pop five or six times. that's not like the first time that's. not even like five or six times is like.

you know what weed does but weed doesn't. do do it doesn't make you kill people no. no I mean you can go crazy though you. can freak out some people freak out they. really do but but that she must have. really despised that guy and that might. might have been like popped out of her. like with this [ __ ] idiot that's in. there not that deep it's not like you're. just like yeah [ __ ] yeah 108 times I. mean I've had like you know you get I. get anxious on weed yeah but you don't. go around stabby no I just sit there.

thinking everyone's going to hate me and. I'm going to die I don't like think. about stabbing people 108 times that is. that is excessive if you did anything a. 100 times when you're high you meant you. probably meant to do it yeah it seems. like if you hit 108 golf balls that's. what you're trying to do it's about the. max you could do you get pretty [ __ ]. tired she like she was more on Aderall. with that amount of stabbing that sounds. so crazy I want to know if on anything. else along with it cuz you know like if. you mix like Zoloft with cocaine is very. dangerous there's certain things that.

you if you mix stuff with no bueno. really yeah people lose their [ __ ]. marbles what's bad with Prozac I'm on. Prozac that's a good question is bad. with Prozac let's find out um if you're. on Prozac should you be taking. Edibles oh boy what. happens I take one every night oh well. you're the test it's fine for you I was. looking up that's the thing it's like. what's fine for you is not fine for. everybody I was looking up n will cuz I. was taking I also take a sleeping pill I. wanted to see if NY will here it goes.

okay uh you shouldn't take uh it may. increase your risk for bleeding problems. oh a couple of Strokers make sure your. doctor knows if you're also taking other. medicines that thin the blood including. nonoral anti-inflammatories like. ibuprofen uh what else I take a I take. adal all the time in inter act s with. monoamine oxidase Inhibitors. maois other anti-depressants and blood. thinners sounds like I'm okay I can't.

make sure girlfriend's medication it's. that's saying don't take um iasa though. oh really yeah I'm not really I don't I. don't think I would take iasa well don't. do. it if you're on the Bros act don't do it. because it says non it said non stal. anti-inflammatories and MAO inhibitors. and that's one of the ingredients. serious bleeding serotonin syndrome. what's this bleeding I think it's about. the blood thinning stuff oh really. manufacturer Prozac recommends whoops um. that you avoid drinking and alcohol.

while all taking his drug hey I don't. drink there you go alcohol can. [Music]. worsen I think I'm good okay I think I'm. good just don't take my yeah. girlfriend's blood thinners does the. proac make you kind of Speedy at all no. I have I have a really bad anxiety I've. had my whole life and uh I was on paxel. for like 10 years and then I tried to. get off of it like about what is paxel. what is that one it's like an ant it's. just another s yeah yeah and I got off.

of it like five years ago just weaned. off of it and uh and then like six. months later I had the worst Panic of my. life I basically was dizzy for like. three months straight oh boy I had a. panic attack at every show just on stage. every open mic i' not open mic or. whatever I'd have a panic attack on. stage it was awful and and uh I was. super dizzy and it was my psychiatrist. said it wasn't even withdrawal just is. the same one that gave you the outall. prescription no no no different one are.

you one of those guys that shops around. for different psychiatrists well that. was in Louisville this is in New York. and after I went to rehab I was like. maybe I should get a different shrink um. but uh the he uh I had like terrible. like disiness and I had to get on. something else so I got on Prozac and it. helped a little with that is there. anything else that helped other than the. Prozac is there any activities that help. like have my girlfriend you know have. have bore her with having sex for too. long that it helped that you know cuz it.

makes you uh what is it well actually it. keeps you from getting it up oh but I. don't have that problem so it does okay. so the paxel was helping you in a. different way than the proac is I think. it was the same thing I just didn't want. to go back on paxel because paxel had. like a lot of weight gain oh so I went. on proac and then gained the weight. anyway but uh and do the what was the. difference what you felt on paxel versus. on prozac both of them make it honestly. made me feel kind of like the same which. is just like a somewhat anxious person.

the problem was when I was on. pael um I thought I didn't need it but. the reason I thought I didn't need it is. because I was on it you know what I mean. right that's the problem with people get. off anti-depressants they're like well I. don't need it no that's because it's. working right so unless there like a. problem I don't know when I got off of. it it was like a nightmare the anxiety I. had it was like truly like especially. having panic attacks on stage jez it's. so shitty cuz we all get anxiety but. usually I I I'd come to believe that. anxiety leaves you once you get on stage.

like it's a comfort zone and I had lost. that for a long time I like had panic. like all throughout a set Jesus you know. yeah it was awful was there anything. else that you tried that helped that at. all I try you know I try to meditate um. did that do anything it helps a little. honestly the thing that helped the most. was panic attacks on stage was just. continuing to have them to the point. where you notice it doesn't um doesn't. doesn't destroy the world like cuz I. would actually still do okay on stage.

actually people wouldn't really notice. like I go off after like that was. horrible they're like I didn't even. notice you know um which makes you feel. more alone by the way the fact that you. can have this hell in your head and no. one notices and when you were doing this. where sometimes you didn't have the hell. in your head or did it happen every. time I think it happened for those three. months like all almost every time I mean. sometimes maybe not or if I was doing a. long set like an hour maybe it would go. away after a while but I I I honestly.

think just having them and then. realizing it's not a big deal that you. can still do the show that made it go. away because I think for the worst thing. you can do is anxiety is like run away. from it like if if you're anxious when. you go outside the worst thing you can. do is just not go outside because then. it like builds so having I I if anyone. has panic attacks on stage just. continuing to have them and letting your. brain know that it's not a big deal that. it's not going to destroy you then it. starts to go away you know wow um so now.

you know I'm back to not really having. them on stage but yeah it was it was. tough like getting off medication was. like a hard show I mean I kind of wish I. was never on it to begin with you know. do you wish you were on Prozac to begin. with or do you think that like did. something about taking the anti-anxiety. medication. accentuated when you got off it. accentuate the yeah like the anxiety did. you have the same level of anxiety. before you did paxel that you had when. you got off of it I think it was more.

like um I mean it's all a mystery I. guess why exactly but I think it was. more like all this anxiet it was this. giant wave of anxiety that I just. happened to have in my life I just come. out with a special and I was feeling. this like I had this urge to just like. create more stuff and like just you know. that feeling you have where you just. want to get out as much stuff because. you're going to die I had that urge kind. of big I was like I got to do the next. thing the next thing and then actually. the way it started I was at my brother's.

place and I looked in the mirror and I. saw these um moles on my back and I was. just convinced there were skin cancer. that's how it began and not like I. always had hypochondria but this was. different this was like I knew I was. going to die and then I went to the. doctor and they were like it doesn't. look like skin cancer and then the next. day I stood up and was dizzy and was. dizzy for like three months straight. Jesus Christ yeah I think it was. a wave of anxiety just where I was in my. life but for the for the first time in. 10 years I didn't have something to mask. it which I think made it more intense.

you know you know what I mean how long. were you off it for about like four. months and then I and then I slowly got. on proac maybe a little more five months. so four months of hell yeah it was it. was awful and it was just. like yeah it was awful so did you have. that level of anxiety when you were. younger when I was really young I would. have these really bad screaming fits. like when I was like eight or nine I. would just suddenly have these moments. where I was like I don't know this. moment of just feeling hopeless or. something I just started yelling and my.

parents never knew what it was I. actually would cut myself a couple times. like on the leg just to like distract it. oh wow and I had those and I didn't know. what it was and then in. college I also started doing cocaine. which didn't help and then I had some. like really bad kind of anxiety in. college and that's when I went on paxel. originally you know oo yeah but uh no. I've always had like really bad anxiety. damn do you have anxiety yeah.

no that is so funny after this long. thing you have anxiety you're like I can. get it sometimes I can talk myself into. it I can talk myself out of it yeah I. get anxiety about existential threats. like I get anxiety about war sometimes. like late at night I get anxiety about. like the more I read about history yeah. more I understand you know how many. times in History Society was everything. was great everything was fine and then. all of a sudden some terrible event took.

place and then we went back to like the. Stone Age like and that this is an. imminent threat to life that we we look. at the going on in the world as if it's. like some plot in a television show that. we're watching you're watching what's. happening in Ukraine you're watching. what's happening in Gaza and you're. watching what's happening in Iran and. you're watching all the crazy [ __ ] and. it doesn't seem real because it hasn't. affected you but it's when late at night. when everyone's asleep that's when it. gets me right all the horrors of.

everything yeah I start thinking that. this this ridiculous life that we live. and all the the stupid societal. conflicts that we have that are mostly. meaningless and nonsense and that. they're accentuated constantly in the. news all the while real people are dying. and like Dron right suicide bombs you. can watch them on on YouTube while we're. just having like culture War arguments. yeah I mean I've seen so many people die.

on Instagram reals so many people get. blown up by missiles and blown up by. drones and suicide drones slamming into. people and detonating them I watched. this guy some guy I forget what part of. the world it was but he wore a suicide. vest they tried to stop them and these. guys run and they grab them and they all. explode they're trying to stop them from. pulling the and this this bomb goes off. and you see just parts of people flying. and you're like [ __ ] man this is all. happening in the world right now it's.

just not happening right here you're. watching it you're like for some reason. I'm really anxious right now yeah I get. freaked out and I start thinking about. just how fragile our civilization really. is yeah oh yeah it's completely fragile. I mean and we're so soft we're so. accustomed to living this way we're so. like when the power went off earlier. when we're doing this podcast what did. we do we wait for it to come back on. some's going fix it what if it doesn't. come back on I used to have a bit about. that that like when the the dumb people. out [ __ ] the smart people and the power.

just goes off and no one has any idea. how to turn it back on again like what. do you do somebody does it they do it. and but that what if that guy's dead. like do we know and when do we know how. long afterward do we figure out the. power's not coming back right it it's. crazy the world's just functioning off. of just this yeah no one's really. running the ship it's just a collective. thing of functioning and we're connected. by the most fragile thing we have which. is the power grid and our computer. infrastructure all of it can be wiped. out in one solar flare and we take it so. much for granted yeah it's the only.

reason why we're alive it's 100 degrees. outside and I have a hoodie on right you. know I'm super comfortable in here we. have air conditioning we're fine we're. not dying of heat exhaustion we're not. out there dehydrating to death we know. where the water is it's like we've. ignored the fact that nature can be a. threat and we're just so vulnerable and. we're so Reliant to keep this. civilization going way it is like look. think about what we've been talking. about today like if you go back and. watch films from like the 1930s and 194. how horrific people treat each other and.

over time because of our access to all. these different human beings and how. they feel about things and how they. discuss things all that is kind of. elevated our discourse and elevated the. way we communicate with each other and. we interact with each other and we. demand more and there's going to be. overcompensation and it's going to. things are going to go back and forth. but generally it's moving in the right. direction but that's only because of all. of our needs are met and because there's. electricity you can go back at any time. yeah so electricity is the thing that. changed everything when you can stay.

cool and stay warm you can live in. places you shouldn't be living yeah. would be a hell hole to live in without. a cities would be all cities would be a. hell hole Yeah there's no food no one's. growing food how do you eat well as soon. as trucks stop coming in everyone's. [ __ ] yeah there's no food you have. enough food for like a few hours of. everybody eating and then that's it yeah. the Gaza stuff is awful it's horrifying. created such a you know I'm Jewish. obviously if you can't tell I think you. brought that.

up it's been it's it's it's been such a. complicated horrible thing and it's just. it's just horrible all around it is. complicated and horrible and it's also. complicated when you see so much. anti-Semitism like open anti-Semitism. about all Jews as if there's like this. caball of evil people that are pulling. the strings I know I've posted you know. I think I hate Netanyahu I hate the. Israeli government I think both Gaza and. Israel have t been taken over by. extremists you know right but I've. posted concern for anti-Semitism and.

I've been like attacked by people like. how can you be worried about that when. people are dying in Gaza and I'm like. there's two different things yeah. they're both real yeah they're both real. and I have a right to be concerned Jews. have a right to be a little nervy yeah. some [ __ ] went down remember yeah we. have a right to get cautious you know. but it's also that's one of the things. that I forget who was talking to us. about this it might been Jordan Peterson. but it was somebody it was somebody when. they were saying that it's one of the. Hallmarks of a civilization's decline. they start blaming things on the Jews it. is it's really common yeah yeah yeah I.

know Jews stick together and you know. they it's a very difficult Club to get. into you know well I think what people. have done too is there are a lot of. there is an extremist faction in Israel. who are like which by the way was being. protested for months on end before. October and what people aren't doing. they're not giving Israel the benefit of. a conflicted soul and a lot of the. anti-zionist propaganda is making you. think all of Israel is like that exactly. but it's it's no different than another.

country like America it's a conflicted. place there are extremists and some of. them are awful and Netanyahu has put a. lot of them in his government made a. coalition with them but there's also. people who want peace people who want. you know Palestinian self-determination. all human beings everywhere in the world. there's good people it's like if you. hated Trump but then assume when he was. president everyone in America supported. Trump right right if you thought that. it's like right it's very dehumanizing. to think like all of Israel is like just.

in support of the genocide and go and. then you see polls 65% of people say. it's okay to rape Palestinian prisoners. who did you talk to who did you talk to. 65% of who who the [ __ ] is answering. that poll hey let me ask you a couple. questions about rape who the [ __ ] is. answering that what you talking about. raping prisoners I'm all in by the way. I'm on my way to work I got to go well. yeah and and like there's also like. there's obviously a lot of horrible [ __ ]. Israel has done but a lot of people go.

beyond that and make it it's not just. like it's fine to be like they don't put. civilians in uh like they don't think. about civilians I understand that a. critique but a lot of people want to. make it look like they're like going out. of the way to just only kill civilians. they have a goal it might be bad and. Reckless yeah but there's been things. like the killing of the aid workers you. know like the Jose Andre's people yeah. which is like seems like they were. targeted I don't know it's hard to. believe the purpose for that the target. to keep people from getting food to to. the Gaz of refugees yeah I don't know I.

I don't like I don't have a position. yeah yeah I don't I'm saying that that's. that's the accusation is that they knew. who those people were I think. Israel I think I don't it's hard for me. to believe that that's where they're I. do think they want to get rid of Hamas I. think a lot of people have died it's. awful and I don't think it's worth it. all this at all but I don't think like. you don't think that some people have a. a a. dehumanization way of looking at. Palestinians yeah for sure definitely. yeah well that I think that's what.

you're looking at when you're seeing. soldiers rape Palestinian prisoners. you've seen that video yeah no that that. uh that camp is awful yeah it's awful. truly a nightmare look whenever a human. being is capable of doing something like. that to another human being that they. don't even know they consider that. person the other you've got a giant. problem and that that that's the giant. problem of being able to just bomb Gaza. into Oblivion and kill who knows how. many thousands of people it's it's. almost like the United States's reaction. after 9911 9/11 we were the whole world.

was on our side yeah everybody wanted. America to prosper we can't believe. America was attacked America this. shining beacon beacon of democracy and. self-government like no not America then. what do we do we invade Iraq right and. we kill a a a million people wind up. dying because of our invasion they think. and then you think about the weapons of. mass destruction host it was all. [ __ ] and it was paraded in the media.

so it's like that it's like our. overreaction was so horrific then. everybody hated America I agree with. that I do think what Hamas did was so. horrific and they said they're going to. keep doing it it did plant these seeds. of hate in Israelis that no doubt even I. I'm in the position where like obviously. this war is terrible and I don't think. should have happened but I also think. it's a lot to ask people to have. something so horrific happen and not. them kind of retaliate though I'm. against it if that makes sense I know. what you're saying that people would. retaliate it's the way they're.

retaliating and the scale of it which is. horrific to people but I also yeah I. mean I think there's dehumanization on. both sides for sure well the only way. you can do October 7th is dehumanization. of course and I do think people on both. sides have tried to demean the other or. trivialize the other person's. accountability I know it's it's crazy. the the and also people pretending as if. they know what actually happened and. what the stats are they didn't do that. they didn't do this are are you on the. ground that's the to me saying like.

there's no rape then is like. dehumanization all of it is crazy like. you don't [ __ ] know what's actually. going on and there's a lot of. misinformation it's even printed in. mainstream media like this the bombing. of the hospital there's a lot of [ __ ]. that happens that was front page of the. New York Times there's a lot of [ __ ]. that happens in the fog of war that they. people want to know the answer right. away and you I know it's upset hard but. you have to wait sometimes like the fog. of War you're not going to always have. the answer right away I mean I'm not. saying Israel isn't culpable of a lot of. things but you do have to wait I see.

people sharing information that's not. verified all the time that just came out. where you're like you don't well that's. the hospital bombing yeah exactly that's. exactly what that is I mean that made it. all the way into newspapers exactly I. mean I think like Netanyahu created a. coalition with some really awful people. like smick and benav there are like. really Jewish supremacists real. thugs and. and I think a lot of anti-zionists have. tried to convince everyone that all of. Israel is like that and I just think. yeah both there needs to be less de.

humanization and just saying like yeah. suffering in Gods is horrible it needs. to stop but also like not every Israeli. is part of some evil Zionist whatever. conspiracy that's its own inverted form. of anti-Semitism well nyaho is this. super pro-military guy I mean he was a a. special forces guy yeah and corrupt and. he has charges against him that he's. trying to like weaken the government to. prevent from coming through and he made. a. coalition with two people who are truly.

awful awful people and that and that is. really almost these people want a. theocracy in Israel you know they want. but that's not all of Israel and people. have protested against that there is so. that's my fear when I'm up in the middle. of the night like that this kind of [ __ ]. is going on that any minute it could pop. off and become a nuclear war I mean. that's a legitimate fear a legitimate. fear I don't even know if that's anxiety. I don't whatever it is that's if you ask. me if I get anxiety that's my anxiety no. I I can to I totally see that when I get. really freaked out that's what what.

freaks me out what freaks me out is that. it could pop off at any minute and then. we and then all of a sudden it's. September 12th you know yeah but way B. way bigger way way crazier way scarier. way scarier and that hasn't happened. since 1945 so we assume that it's not. going to happen again yeah we had 20. good years and now we think. every we had like some good times in the. ' 80s and now we're like yeah it could. never go back oh dude when the wall fell. down it was amazing there was like a. weight lifted off of America like. everybody like oh Soviet Union is.

gone we don't have to worry about a. nuclear war with Russia anymore and now. it's China and Iran and [ __ ] this and. that and oh my God it it is like most. periods of history people had kind of a. shitty life and a volatile period of. History we really like up till like I. guess after Vietnam and maybe to the you. know now to the last till everything's. kind of falling apart now like it was. kind of smooth feeling I guess for a. little bit but like as long as you're in. America well yeah it's not smooth.

ceiling people were like the 90s were. great Randa it was not smooth ceiling. there was a lot of places where it. sucked bad well that's the other thing. that yeah it's never it's been shitty. for it's always shitty for someone. that's the thing is we're not used to it. happening right here we're very spoiled. oh we're so spoiled like the Russians. are so much more used to it than us they. lost so many people during World War II. oh yeah like 20 million yeah well there. was I was reading this thing about. France this is so crazy that during. World War I France lost. 25% of its fighting aged men and then. during World War II they lost another.

25% it's insane like your life what the. [ __ ] man well that's the thing life was. so cheap and now we feel like life is. kind of expensive now we're like life. has value you know but it's still so. cheap for so many people well it is in. other parts of the world that's the. thing it's like we're so used to not. being attacked that when something like. 9/11 does happen like Pearl Har happened. it was 5 hours over the ocean the only. other time we were attacked yeah you. know we're so soft we are soft we're. soft as baby poo but we're seeing a lot.

of violence I mean we we see every you. see the guy who shot Trump you see his. head exploded on the roof you see. everything think that was all. about a guy trying to shoot Trump he was. just just a guy trying you don't think. he had some help no no do you think Lee. Harvey Oswald acted alone yeah I'm not. good with I'm not a big concern so the. bill joke you don't buy into it I love. the joke you love the joke but I'm not a. big uh I'm not a big have you read into. that one I read a little yeah you need. to read.

more that's one you really shouldn't be. flipping about they killed that [ __ ]. guy but here's the thing with Trump. though like why why would he need so we. got you thought like Biden trying to. take him out um I don't think it was. Biden I think it could be a number of. people that were involved but it seems. at the very least like they were so. lacked. insecurity that they were inviting. something to happen at the very least. and knowing that that guy was walking. around more than 30 minutes before with.

a rangefinder right seeing that guy he. come back and forth he observed him. multiple times people were talking about. him they were keeping an eye on him and. this guy gets on the roof with a rifle. and gets off three shots well my thing. with a lot of conspiracy theories it. just kind of ignores the incompetence I. feel like incompetence is a real thing. incompetence is a real Theory you know. you know it's the real thing. conspiracies those are real too the. problem with dismissing conspiracies as. being just a silly conspiracy theories. that was the whole goal of the Warren. Commission report and that was what that.

was when the term conspiracy theory got. into the Zeitgeist don't as a pejorative. I don't dismiss uh and I I didn't mean. to offend no you didn't. offend I don't dismiss like there's huge. amount of corruption and horrible things. I just. think a lot of times incompetence does. does play a big part and I do think like. there is incompetence and there's like. Randomness a lot and some dude had a. really good joke about it that he put up. on uh Instagram it was very funny let. see if I can find maybe you can find it.

Jamie he said uh that it was basically. like if I thought they were going to try. to assassination attempt that seems. exactly like how the government would do. it like really inefficient really sh it. like he said it was like the DMV of. assassination attempts F this dude who. sent that to me God like but it's also I. mean I guess for for me it's like you. also have to like you find it I know I. saw it recently too I know what you're. talking about [ __ ] somebody send it to. me I get too many texts anything can be. real but I also think the the idea that.

he was a lone shooter is not that world. is not a crazy world the idea that we're. in a violent place no I'm not had guns. no not saying that he wasn't a lone. shooter I think he was a lone shooter. maybe there was other people shooting at. him I think he was trained and I think. somebody got him detonators he he had. sophisticated uh detonators and and. explosive devices you're like lone. shooter but trained by the military I. think someone talked that guy into doing. that I think I don't think someone talk. that kindy of doing I think it's.

possible that someone talked that kind. of doing that yeah I mean anything's. possible I'm not I'm not like dismissing. that I just think like he's like a. school shooter who got political you. know they took his body away and. cremated it 10 days after the. assassination no toxicology report no. public there's been no press conference. about it no telling all the details. here's what we know they went to the. kid's house it was professionally. scrubbed didn't have silverware in it. right there a phone that was going back. and forth because you know they have ad. data they can track cell phone when they.

ping there's a phone going back and. forth between the offices of the FBI and. Washington DC in this kid's house. multiple. occasions yeah I don't I don't know. about that but I don't know that's where. things get weird right you'd hate me. with my views I don't I don't think EP I. would not hate you with your views I'm. like the opposite of a conspiracy. theorist that's interesting so you think. think Este killed himself I'm not saying. he definitely killed himself but I also. think it is believable that he is a. little depressed at that point certainly. you know what I mean that's what I think.

I think like the possib I think the um. the possibility of it not being a. conspiracy is an all is sometimes very. like plausible to the point where I. don't need if you need a go to conspir. like maybe got killed but Epstein was. also not in a great place at that point. true you know what I mean so I I could. see that both ways but then you have to. look at the autopsy yeah and you have to. look at the ligature marks around the. base of his neck which is not really. what happens when you hang yourself when. you hang yourself you you your weight of. your body is what kills you so the.

ligature marks the strangulation marks. are underneath the chin his was down by. his neck and his neck was actually. fractured which is also indicative of. someone getting strangled to death Dr. Michael badden who's that uh forensic um. scientist that did that show autopsy. remember that show on HBO he examined. the the. autopsy examined uh what what the. results were and he found that the. fractures in the neck were indicative of. someone being strangled to death wasn't. there another Corner who said it was.

like suicide just first cor yeah first. guy said why can't why can't we believe. that guy well it seems very convenient. that the cameras went out yeah it seems. very convenient that the people that. were on security were asleep seems very. convenient all of it seems convenient. yeah no I'm not saying he didn't get. killed seem convenient the most high. profile defense witness in a a very. important case that might have been. about Elites and child pedophilia would.

probably want to take that guy out but. also a narcissist who's going to be. about to be the most who's the most. hated person in the world could also I. could see him killing himself sure I'm. just saying I'm not saying he didn't. kill he could have killed himself I mean. he could have been killed so how long. you been working for the. government you hate me now I don't hate. you I don't hate got a big yeah I I. think Oswalt acted alone I don't know. I'm I'm a Believer in incompetence and. that everyone is most people are bad at. their job you watch theuer film the film. of Kennedy's head going back into the.

left of course how do you think that. happens when you get shot from. behind back what do you mean his head. goes back into the left like he got shot. from the. front I don't know I don't I don't you. never see that was a hi I see the yeah. back to the left but I I also think. they've tried so long to find the. conspiracy for that and they and they it. always kind of gunster dead end I don't. know I I think what aldwell did was I. like the way you think you know you. don't want to think about it this way I. like it I like what you're saying well. to me I think a lot of conspiracy.

theorists think like the other person. like I'm naive right but I think it's. the opposite I think like it sometimes. can be naive to think someone there. there someone masterminding everything. you know I like to me I think like and I. I don't know all the evidence I'm sure. there's all these reports and stuff but. like to me I think like sometimes crazy. [ __ ] happens and when you look at it. back backwards it doesn't yeah it's. crazy that he shot someone from that far. and it worked you know what I mean. that's true but it's also crazy [ __ ]. happens and we also have never seen a.

lot of times stuff happens where we've. never seen that like 911 M we never had. two planes hit a building but you. immediately had people being like. buildings don't fall like that it's like. this is the first time it's happened. that's true so it's like we don't always. know like it's a lot of times something. happening that's crazy but also like. never happened before that people are. like that's not how it happens but it's. like how do you know that's true planes. flying into the buildings especially. buildings that are that tall that's all. true and I do think you know I've read. you know was 911 there was so much. incompetence with the government lack of. communication between the FBI and the.

CIA you know and I I I'm a firm I'm not. saying some conspiracies aren't true. definitely and there's a lot of. corruption but I'm just a firm believer. in incompetence incompetence is real but. conspiracies are too some conspiracies. are real yeah the Lee Harvey osal one. when you look into it it's uh it's. pretty nutty yeah it's pretty nutty you. know a lot of people heard shots from. the grassy null the amount of people. that were eyewitnesses that died in. mysterious ways is extraordinary like. off the charts odds like that don't make. any sense but I also do think sometimes.

the brain like finds patterns that. aren't always sure and also people kill. people that happens too both both the. thing about the the Oswald thing is. there's also a lot of evidence that. points to the fact that they were trying. to come to the conclusion that there was. a lone gunman despite the evidence and. one of those is the magic bullet theory. the magic bullet theory is [ __ ] cucko. for Coco Puffs that that [ __ ] would. never never fly today what is it the. bullet went through and then went. through Kennedy and then into Connelly. and then they found it in pristine. condition on the gurnie and then they. attributed that bullet to all these.

wounds because they had to because there. was only three shots supposedly and in. those three shots that osal was able to. get off they knew one of them hit the. back and they knew one of them was hit. Connelly and one of them blew up his. head well they had all different bullets. for these things for these different. injuries but then a guy got hit with a. Ricochet and the underpass so they had. to account for one of those bullets. missing the Target and hitting the the. um the whatever it is granite curbstone. and banging into this guy's face and the. guy had to go to the hospital they found.

the curbstone that had been hit with a. bullet and so they knew that a Ricochet. had hit there so now they had two. bullets that had to have all these. wounds and so instead of saying hey. maybe there's more than one person. shooting maybe there's more than this. one guy that was in The Book Depository. all these people said there was shots. coming from the grassy null maybe they. were telling the truth instead of that. they said no no no no one bullet went. crazy and went oh look we found it. here's the bullet all good and look at. the bullet all right I'll give you osal. you give me that bullet that that bullet.

supposedly went through two people and. they found it in that condition on a. gurnie if you've ever shot anything with. a bullet you know that's straight. horeshit that's not deformed at all. that's shattered bones that's nonsense. but what is the answer I feel like. there's so many answers about what. happened right there's not well if you. read the Warren Commission report and. [ __ ] nobody has um that that's also. there's different like see the hole in. his neck it's supposed to have gone. through his back through his neck but in. the first autopsy report that hole in. the neck was uh thought of as an.

entrance wound and then in when it got. to Bethesda Maryland then they said it. was tracheotomy hold there's like a lot. of inconsistencies in the Warren. Commission report and if you if you want. to go crazy read a book called best. evidence by David lton who was an. accountant who went over read the entire. Warren Commission went over it and found. all these inconsistencies and said they. were just trying to come to this one. conclusion and he didn't buy it but I'll. I'll check it out but also like there. can be in inconsistencies are also part. of incompetence or not communicating as. well can it inconsistencies yeah but I.

mean like people having different. reports that don't or even him trying to. force something like I mean like I just. think sometimes like the thing has to be. like nothing's perfect and there is like. a lot of like I also don't think Lee. Harvey oswal acted all I think Lee har. Al was a part of it yeah I don't think. he acted I don't think he acted alone. like think he was the that they were. pinning it on well he was definitely. active with the CIA he had he'd gone. over to Russia he' married a Russian. woman came back to America was doing a. lot of weird communist [ __ ] he was.

involved in a lot of weird stuff that. seemed to indicate that he was some sort. of an intelligence agent yeah or at. least a py a guy they could pin this on. which is probably what they want to do. I'm not yeah I'm not denying it that it. could happen I guess that it's a. possibility I guess for me it's just. like usually when there is something a. conspiracy it gets it does get found out. there's concrete evidence you know there. was no internet back then and they. didn't even see the zuder film until 12. years later the zuder film nobody even. saw it until it was on the haraldo. Rivera show in 1975 when Dick Gregory.

brought it on so you know what I read in. the seamour uh what's his name he did a. book about Camelot that apparently. Kennedy was [ __ ] someone at the pool. and pulled his groin have you read this. two days beforehand and he had like a. back brace on H and when he got shot CU. he got shot twice right he got shot well. yeah at least twice it they think three. times they think that's one through the. back one through the neck and one in the. head but I heard they said like because. of the back brace when he got shot the. first time it didn't push him over so. it's kind of like a Sitting Duck have. you heard that read that that makes that.

kind of makes sense so like the back. brace almost kept him up with the shot. he had he was all [ __ ] up he had a lot. of like real physical problems he was in. constant pain and he was also a guy that. was getting uh treatment from Dr. Feelgood oh yeah that's where Dr. Feelgood came from my psychiatrist yeah. real similar like this one doctor and I. think a lot of that was meth as well it. was a habit of wearing a a tightly laced. back brace that may have kept him from. recoiling to the floor of his car after. the Assassin's first bullet to the neck.

setting him up for the kill shot the. brace was firm so this is also this is. not the back shot either it was a shot. in the neck that again the fir initial. autopsy said was an entrance. wound yeah that makes sense tightly. laced makes sense that it kept him stiff. he was all [ __ ] up though he had like. yeah see portrait of pain see he had. like some real serious problems uh. numerous back. surgeries they so they hid the it's hard. to hide news photos of him walking on.

crutches before and after one of his. numerous back Sur was until 2002 when. historian Robert Dak was allowed access. to a collection of documents spanning. 1955 to. 1963 uh and 1963 the specifics began to. emerge pton his co-author neurosurgeon. just Dr Justin dowy poured over D. subsequent book numerous other. biographies and scores of documents and. x-rays at the JFK library in Boston. prepare their paper so I was taken back. by the depths of Kennedy's pain he said. how long he dealt with the pain despite.

his short life how it affected his life. I was able to conceal most of that from. the public and certainly from his. political adversaries so I wonder what. he what back surgeries were they doing. in 1963 good lord it's got to be brutal. oh he had scarlet fever Age Two spent. his teenage years in and out of. hospitals with abdominal and joint pain. flu like symptoms and Extreme Weight. Loss. age 15 he weighed a mere 117 pounds uh. by the next year worried he might have. leukemia doctors began regularly. checking his blood so he was all [ __ ].

up man so he was a sick dude but so like. sometimes I think there's like colitis. different explanations that like aren't. that sexy like like here's not sexy look. at this yesterday I went through the. most harassing experience of my life and. iron Tube 12 in long and 1 in diameter. up my ass my poor. rectum oh my God is looking at me very. reproachfully these. days oh my God he was great with words. bro he was [ __ ] up could been a comic.

Jesus Christ um so he got a football. game and got tackled from the side. possibly damaging a spinal disc again. regularly using a corset braid to. stabilize his spine and control his. discomfort so yeah he was all [ __ ] up. but it's like there's things like when. things don't make sense there are. sometimes an explanation that's like. kind of like Almost Boring or random. it's like the thing with zuder I think. it's a zuder the put person puts the. umbrella up is that in zuder there's a. guy who has an umbrella up and it's not. raining and for years they thought he.

might have been involved like signaling. and they finally find the guy they bring. him in front of everyone and he's like. I'm British and in England it's a real. [ __ ] you when you like raise your. umbrella when a car like a car's driving. by and he hated Kennedy so he was just. doing a [ __ ] you but then for years. people were like oh that was part of the. signal I just think I mean I'm not. saying some conspiracies aren't true I. just think there's sometimes other. reasons that get that get lost like that. you know certainly people look for. things that aren't there you know I've.

read conspiracies about me and I'm like. this is hilarious weird when you read. but it's weird when you read them about. you you're like oh this is how this. works people just make [ __ ] up and they. just run with it what they want about. you oh just nonsense being handled by. the CIA being a part of the. Illuminati all kinds of stupid [ __ ]. throwing people off your Trail by being. into conspiracy theories so people don't. realize you're part of the C well they. just want to think you're controlled. they want us think that at a certain. point someone comes to you and you get. controlled but that's not real the.

reality is no one's in control that's. that's the to me that's reality MK Ultra. was real and they really were trying to. teach people how to kill people and they. they did it with Charlie Manson no yeah. I mean there's definitely real horrible. [ __ ] up sh I'm not saying that I'm not. saying there's not [ __ ] up horrible. [ __ ] but I do think no one's really. steering the ship and like the really. scary thing I think the the our idea is. that this there's this one group of. people that all agree with each. other that's I don't think that's real I.

think competing factions even at the top. levels I think they're always battling. with each other yes look the people in. the Navy sometimes don't like the people. in the Army you know what I mean exact. this is the CIA not communicate with the. FBI 100% real and that's why when people. look at all of Israelis not to bring it. back to thatw as like a Zionist conspir. you're now doing that you're believing. in this Collective thing when really. there's so many different types of. Israelis there's extremists there's. racists and there's there's peace Nick. there's people who believe in peace and.

it's like exactly you I think you always. have to be weary of like thinking. everything's monolithic you know. absolutely and I feel like that about. the intelligence agencies as well I feel. like yeah you want the CIA you want. someone who's paying attention to. terrorist plots of course you want you. want them you want the FBI to be able to. investigate when someone's done. something horrible you want you want. those things you just don't want them. out of control and the problem is. absolute power corrupts absolutely and. when some people get into certain. positions of power they use whatever. means necessary to maintain it I mean. the Nazis had the ultimate conspiracy.

when they invaded Poland they like. killed a bunch of their own like. prisoner Wars and had them dressed as. polish like soldiers and like concocted. a whole fake attack by Poland of I mean. the ultimate Hitler burned the r tag we. actually never know who did it no well. some people actually do think it was a. Marxist but we don't actually know for. sure yeah I thought it was just. generally assumed that it was Hitler I. think there's still some mystery I think. some people there was one guy who they. say might have lit the fire I forget. what his name I read this in a book but.

like Hitler definitely jumped on it. right immediately well it was a time old. tactic I mean Nero burned Rome I don't. he might have but I I think there's. still some mystery about what because. some people think it might have been. someone else but then he just kind of. jumped you mean Hitler or Nero uh Hitler. Nero you know what else Nero did when. his wife died he found some SL boy that. looked like his wife and had her. castrated and paraded her around as his. wife did he [ __ ] the kid I don't know. what he did probably did I mean imagine.

he decided you're going to be my wife. now I'm going to chop your dick off and. bring you out in public whoa yeah back. then he excited I believe the kid killed. himself oh really a couple years later. yeah see if you can find that story it. is a crazy story he found some slave boy. that looked like his wife and so you. know back then you're looking at him at. the [ __ ] on the balcony you're one of. the peasants on the street nobody knew. yeah he just like wasn't his wife. anymore like he didn't want anybody to. know his wife died so he decided to make.

this [ __ ] this slave boy look like. his wife find a woman who looked like. his wife I don't know that kid if he had. a sister look this is Nero dude Caligula. this dude was out of his [ __ ] mind I. actually don't know much about Nero um. sporus was a young slave boy whom the. Roman Emperor Nero had castrated and. married as his Empress under his tour of. Greece in' 66 to 67 CE allegedly in. order to for him to play the role of his. wife poea Sabina who had died the. previous year ancient historians.

generally portray this relationship. between Nero and sporus as an. Abomination how do you say that name Su. satus satus places his account in the. neuro neuros sporus relationship in his. scandalous accounts of neuros sexual. aberration between his raping a Vestal. Virgin and committing incest with his. mother some think Nero used his marriage. to sporus to assuage the guilt he fed he. felt for allegedly kicking his pregnant. wife pompea to death at least he.

hopefully he was really really Jesus. Christ Dio casos in a more detailed. account writes that sporus bore an. uncanny resemblance to papia and that. Nero called sporus by her name oh my God. that's insane oh my. god wow I should make a movie about that. kid oh look at this Scholars have. deduced that sporus was likely an. epithet given to him when his abuse. started considering it to be derived. from the Greek word sporus meaning seed.

or seen which may refer to his inability. to have children following his. castration what the [ __ ] dude oh my God. how crazy is how crazy was that guy they. make a movie about that kid that'd be a. good movie from the kid's perspective. first you do like dark things that' be a. good movie darkest first he has to. accept that he may have some girly. features and then he has to Bro to make. it a romcom but it's just like what was. Society like back then because they all.

had sex with kids they [ __ ] a lot of. kids [ __ ] a lot of kids it was normal. for like an intellectual to have a young. boy that he would [ __ ] I think it was. gay to [ __ ] your wife I think people. would be like I'm going home to my wife. they're like what are you gay go [ __ ] a. little boy like us it was like it was. like a gay thing to [ __ ] your wife yeah. it was in [ __ ] kids was like fashion. well and also how about the Spartans the. the greatest warriors ever they all. [ __ ] each other yeah they were it's.

Greeks were like very tough and very not. homophobic they didn't they didn't care. who they [ __ ] they were just [ __ ]. any that was that was a part of. masculinity like [ __ ] a guy was. masculine like you were like I'm tough I. fight [ __ ] God I know imagine if that. kept going and guys were just [ __ ]. guys today well in the where the guy who. was gay Eric uh I mean uh what was his. name general rommer or whatever his name. was the one part of the original uh. essay that they killed in the night of. the Long Knives oh really he was gay and.

he was the toughest as they came and he. there's a bunch of gay people in his his. division yeah well that's the the ideal. of the Spartans was that you would fight. for your lover much harder than You'. fight for a friend so like this man yeah. this man beside you not only is he your. you know com he's. he's with you in this war he's a fellow. Soldier but he's also your lover so are. you saying I was thinking they wanted to. [ __ ] each other is it more like the. general was like I need you all to [ __ ]. each other I think they wanted to [ __ ].

each other too they wanted to [ __ ] each. other I think they just got used to. [ __ ] guys I think it's probably one. of those like guys are so gross let. that's the thing about prison right. there's no women around we just [ __ ]. each other reading further into the. sports thing it gets a little weirder I. guess yeah I mean he he was already. married to someone else after his wife. died oh Selina Melina and then later. married sporis that year who said to. Bear Marco resers to pompea but then he.

took spores to Greece and then back to. Rome making calvia Cas. caspia uh serve as his mistress of. wardrobe to spor to sporus Nero then. Nero had earlier married another fredman. Pythagoras mhm who had played the role. of Nero's husband now now sporis played. the role of Nero's wife what yeah I mean. he was just wild Nero died before sporis. died too oh my God he was just wild and. then sporis went to somebody else as a.

wife because it was and papeo was. married to this person before Nero got. her and Nero made them get divorced took. papea wow apparently killed her and then. sporis went back to this guy whoa n nus. sabinus oh my God Nyo who had persuaded. the ptor in guard to Desert Nero nedus. treated sporis as a wife and called him. pompea so called him Nero's ex-wife who.

Nero kicked to death who he used to be. married to what the [ __ ] imagine that. poor kid he just blessed with good. genetics got a pretty face got a pretty. face cut your dick off and just [ __ ] you. and they pass you around talk like my. wife I'm going to change your name again. kid this is why he killed himself is. because someone else who beat that guy. was going to use spores as a victim in. public entertainment as a re re. reenacted after all that [ __ ] of a rape.

of the of a someone in the Underworld is. what that is the rape of Prosper PR. proera the rape of proera at a gladiator. show oh my God so he avoided this public. humiliation by committing suicide so. they were going to violently rape him. and kill him in a gladiator show so he. finally gets free of the [ __ ] and then. they're like we want you to reenact it. now we're going to we're going to make. you die in a gladiator show i' guess. that's not the first time they did that. he probably knew what was coming so he's. probably like [ __ ] that I'm going.

through that he probably saw so many. people get [ __ ] up and gladi why do. they feel the need to publicly humiliate. him hasn't he been through that why kick. a man while he's down I guess just like. he's getting a little cocky Let's. uh oh life back then I mean this is the. thing it's like they thought they were. pretty Progressive when they were just. spanking women yeah in those stupid. movies well you don't know yeah you. don't know it's give me give me a little. Hammer to spank her in the ass oh here. you. go it was normal yeah at least didn't.

cut her dick off well you know we are we. we do move at our own pace and it's like. people act like people suck now like. we're awful but like we are we are. getting better we are way better than. those days way better than the Nero if. you just read that account yeah and. imagine if B did that imagine if Biden's. wife died so he found some [ __ ] pagee. that looked like his wife and had him. cut his dick off and brought him to gree. as his wife be like this guy's a. maniac right the guy's out of his. [ __ ] mind freak out when he sniffs.

hair. yeah getting too close to that hair look. how he's smelling those kids he [ __ ]. imagine oh that was insane it was I mean. it was good to be a king back then you. know you really could do whatever you. wanted guess it didn't last long. eventually it came for you he got what. happened to him he got executed what. happened to Nero how did he die I'm. looking into this a little more it says. this like because of how crazy it's. sounding I'm starting to go like maybe. whoever killed him was just like you. know we're going to we're going to smear. him and we're going to make up all the.

[ __ ] about him it's not maybe accurate. but who's going to [ __ ] def right but. the Nero store that's like an historical. record the store took sporus and found. New Yorker article from 2021 that says. like how nasty was he really that. notorious how nasty was Nero really oh. my God Nero apologist they going be. right about Hitler somay might have been. a smear Camp it was just the oxycodone. it wasn't Hitler yeah sorry he was on. really good pot really poaching pot made. him [ __ ] his wife he got some 29% THC.

the weed was strong and he only had. taken weed a couple times yeah you can't. fault him for killing all the Jews he. really did think they were evil while he. was tripping balls sorry that's a crazy. thing to be like kill six million Jew. well I was on painkillers I was on oxies. guys I was on a lot of pain a Bad. Doctor what Jamie were you saying he. after he uh had sex with his mom he. killed her too they didn't mention that. in the whoops thing we read yeah bad guy. I'd say bad guy yeah yeah yeah I say. pretty safe to say that's not a.

conspiracy I'm not into the I'm I'm not. going to try to can't you go for that. one I think that guy was probably a. really bad guy no that was a bad guy. yeah yeah no he was uh I think when you. were the king back then you could do. whatever the [ __ ] you wanted which is. part of the problem yeah so much power. over people I think anyone put in that. position would just do whatever the [ __ ]. [ __ ] they wanted you know the Elizabeth. bathy story no Elizabeth this so this is. a very controversial story I don't know. about it this lady appar so this this is. the folklore there's two different.

versions of this so the F the story that. gets handed down was this woman was so. evil that uh she was a serial killer and. she was beautiful when she was young and. as she got older she would Slaughter. young maids and put them in a bathtub. and and and bathe in their blood to try. to rejuvenate I remember this yes I mean. reading this but then the revisionist. approach to it was that they accused her. of all these things so that they could. take her land and they imprisoned her. because she was a royal so they. imprisoned her and under house arrest. they locked her up in a castle you know.

they locked her up in a room in the. castle for the rest of her life until. she died and they think that this. possibly could be false accusations. against her that were so horrific that. no one would question them so that they. could take her land oh so she didn't do. it or I don't know we don't know mean. the story I mean if they did smear her. with this fake thing you know it's it's. a crazy accusation too you want it to be. true though don't you of course you want. to think there's some lady that is so. vain and evil that she Slaughters all. the beautiful young ladies yeah and that.

they these women started going missing. and they said see if you can find that. story it's kind of crazy I used to be. super into serial killers like before it. was cool oh back in when did you. start who got you first well first of. all I was really into keer the guy in. the mind Hunter series oh I was into. before now he's like everyone knows him. I'm a little disappointed I was into him. he's mainstream now he's sold out back. when I was into it I was creeping people. it was cool was old school days my. favorite story is Ed.

gon uh there's a story that someone came. to like to his house once to like get. borrow sugar some [ __ ] and he came. inside and there was a skull that Ed G. of someone who had killed like on a. shelf and the guy's like what the [ __ ]. is that and Ed gain you know it's like. 50s right EG just kind of like freaks. out and just lies he just goes oh that's. a Japanese guy I killed in the War. brought him back and the guys the other. guy like H thank God for a second I. thought it was something creepy Jesus. Christ is that crazy that is crazy. imagine you could take a Japanese guy's. head home with you and everyone's just.

like like yeah fine long as a Japanese. guy case of Elizabeth bathy inspired. numerous stories during the 18th and. 19th centuries the most common motive of. these works is that the countless. bathing in her victim's virgin victim's. blood to retain beauty or youth the. legend appeared in print for the first. time in 1729 in the Jesuit scholar who. llo. turo tooy maybe uh traga Historia was. written the first account of the bathy. case the story came into question 1817.

when the witness accounts which had re. had surfaced in 1765 were published for. the first time they included no. references to blood baths in his book. Hungary and Transylvania published in. 1850 uh John P describes the supposed. origins of B's blood bathing although. his tale seems to be fictionalized. recitation of oral history from the area. it's difficult to know how accurate his. account of events is sadistic Pleasures. is considered a far more plausible.

motive for B's crimes oh so she they're. saying that she did do it B has been. labeled by Guinness Book of World. Records the most prolific female. murderer although the number of her. victims is. debated so this is Wikipedia though yeah. I think there was another article that. Elizabeth B was like Google Elizabeth. bathri was innocent I found this but. this didn't have a link it's just. someone talking about it on redit which. says was never a serial killer the myth.

and stories about her were made up by. the Hungarian nobleman who first falsely. accused her then prosecuted her based on. false evidence that was mostly hearsay. later they got her servants to make. proof against her by forcing them to say. they saw the killings of young girls. while they tortured them this was. because the wild dislike she got in. those circles because of how well she. treated her what is that jaagi I don't. know how to translate basically farmers. who work for her on the land for house. and a portion of what they made uh.

making a bad example and she was uh. simply kind to commoners something. noblemen just loathe it's also helped. them she actually after she got locked. up They seized her estate so she was. actually just like a nice person yeah. that seems a little fishy too it's. disappointing though you know who. [ __ ] knows you know it's too many. years ago for really we don't even know. what happened with 1963 with the Kennedy. assassination you know I took a I take a. bath every day not not a blood bath but. I love baths baths are nice I love them.

yeah they it's like my way Place away. from my phone and stuff I yeah if you. could live a hundred years ago a [ __ ]. hot shower is a miracle oh yeah a hot. shower is a wonderful pleasure that we. just completely take for granted to sit. in that shower like ah soap and lather. up wash your feet and wash your f face. and ah your underarms ah bathe in this. preheated warm water it's wonderful we. do cold plunges for fun that's like all. people had back then was the cold yeah.

if you wanted to wash your dirty ass you. had to get in that [ __ ]. Lake hey dude it's been really fun. talking to you man it was really good. time thanks thanks for doing this I. really enjoyed it can I plug a couple. things plug away plug away what do you. got but this was awesome by the way. thank you I hope you I I hope you had. fun I did I had a great time I enjoyed. it very much uh definitely check out my. special Brave came out uh like U not too. long ago on YouTube called Brave also I. just made a. movie um oh yeah there it.

isil comedy seller nice Jam Webb filled. it great directors beautiful and uh I. also just made a movie I have the we. just kind of made the trailer it's about. a serial killer called uh memory room. you do like it dark huh I like it dark. and uh memory yeah it's a movie I made. with my brilliant co-director Dam mcabe. a comedy no it's about a um. caretaker it's like a 25-minute thriller. about a caretaker who's taking care of a. guy with dementia and one day they're. listening to like music and he seems to.

really like the song and she's like oh. do you remember that song and he's like. that song was playing the night I. strangled Rosy he kind of just says it. out of nowhere oh jeez and she starts. like investigating whether he actually. killed someone or not and uh yeah we. just filmed it are you the serial girl. no we got a great actor H Robinson and. uh did you think about playing it you. did well that's why you're laughing I. tell you at one point he was talking. about killing someone in it and he was. like he looked a little too upset and I. was like you got to look like it's like. not a big deal like I was giving him my. serial killer wisdom like you should be.

talking about this like it's nothing you. know right but he was great and uh you. can learn about it or uh where can. someone watch it you can watch a trailer. now at memory room movie.com we just. kind of put it together and there's also. like if we went 13,000 over budget so if. anyone wants to be an investor go to. memory room movie.com. and um when will it be available for. people to watch well we're going to. we're going to we're finish editing and. then send it to all these film festivals. and try to get in yeah I made a movie.

with Joe list earlier this year and I'm. I'm trying to start making more movies. I've Loved movies my whole life and I've. written screenplays with my partner. danam mcabe who's great great writer and. we just finally started like making this. and like raising money and making it. it's awesome cool all right man. beautiful but it it was so nice talking. to you nice talking to you too man a lot. of fun easy yeah good time I enjoyed it. thank you all right bye everybody. [Music]. [Applause].

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