Joe Rogan Experience #2123 - Gary Clark Jr.

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day so how much of a relief is it to. have the album. done you've been working on this for a. while huh yeah it would be a relief if I. got a chance to chill out I just I just. kind of mixed it mastered it mastered it. again that took a little while and uh I.

was supposed to go on vacation I was. going to take a trip and go chill out. and like think about it it took like. that didn't end up happening so I just. turned my phone off for like two three. days and then it was let's go talk about. it and break it all down and you know so. it's it's it's a relief it's finally. done but it just it's kind of kept going. so I haven't had a chance to like chill. on it those breaks are important right. those just vacation breaks just shut. your brain off breaks yeah yeah I I.

I yeah I really I really wanted that. one I really really want those marar I. needed it I just wanted to chill I just. wanted to go be by myself just camp out. in the woods by myself or something yeah. just be completely solo oh and just. chill out you know I was I just made 40. I was just wanted to go chill out and go. wow you know reflect and be like wow. this first 40's been pretty cool like. what's going to happen in the next and. it was like like boom New York City.

Tonight Show Quest love looking at me I. was like this is not what the plan. was sometimes you got to force the plan. and those all those other people yeah AB. you have a lot of people to make happy. absolutely but I'm I'm also excited to. do it you know sometimes if I get too. comfortable I get comfortable just being. comfortable right and I like and then. nothing gets made yeah you know I kind. of like to get out there and get the. nerves going blood going a little bit. yeah get out in front of folks and.

figure it out yeah you know so well. that's a little bit of a vacation from. the creative process of making it right. cuz the process of made me you were I. mean I know you were locked up yeah yeah. you lock yourself up dude you do it like. when you do it you go all in well I. think I I still care about this [ __ ] you. know you can tell I really care like I I. you know people are like what the hell. are you making a whole album for it's. about singles I'm like I still like.

listening to to a full record putting a. record down you know having the needles. scratch the thing and playing it and. then you know flipping that other side. and seeing what's happening I still like. listening to a record from top to bottom. is there anything that I've ever learned. it's that do what you like to do it. doesn't matter what the trend of the. business is just [ __ ] do what you. like to do oh yeah you like albums make. a [ __ ] album yeah sure and so yeah. that's what I did I've been I mean I I. was locked in a lot of it was by choice.

too you know it was like I I just love. being in a spot I built the studio I was. like well why not [ __ ] use it yeah. you know so that's what I did kind of to. a fault my wife was like you got to get. out of. there you know trying to hang with you. get me out the house socialize me and. stuff but I was just I was just locked. in you know just nerding out trying to. make noise organized noise you know but.

the end is beautiful the end result is. beautiful thank you than there's so many. layers to the music man I got it last. night they sent me a link but then the. link needed a passcode and I could have. get a passcode and then last night they. sent me the link so while I was writing. last night when I came from the store I. listened to the whole album awesome. awesome man there's so many the the. music the sounds like right off the bat. there's so many layers yeah it's like. you you know it's very you could tell.

there's so much thought into. it there's a lot of smoke in the air. yeah a lot of. mcow a lot of V know flowing MH yeah it. was just. uh and there was nobody saying you know. usually. it's for me people expect a certain. thing you know and uh like you know I. get have talks I don't no strings on. that album stay away from singing.

falsetto stuff because your core fans. don't like it and I was like I just. don't give a [ __ ] like I didn't care I. was it was a midle in the middle of Co. yeah so everybody was locked down and I. was just like my phone was down nobody. was talking to anybody I just got I got. weird man I got to me that is so crazy. that anybody is around you that gives. you that kind of advice well it's it's. it's folks that are in the business and. you know I guess people I've been I've. been told that I'm. not I'm.

I'm a hard act to put on a shelf you. don't know where to put me so they don't. know how to Market or sell this confused. kid who plays power cords and listen to. Nirvana who also loves Snoop Dog and Dr. Dre who thinks that tonius monk is one. of the baddest dudes on the planet who. wants to play harmonica like sunny boy. Williams and they're like what the [ __ ]. are you you know so you're Gary Clark Jr. yeah yeah exactly exactly exactly but. it's a it's a it's a it's a weird time.

you know like just people want to be. able to call you something and you know. so they tried to do the. whole next Jimmy Hendrick thing and that. didn't really work out I kind of. rebelled on that and yeah they were like. oh [ __ ] now what you know so here we are. you know what I mean it's um but I you. know there's no reason not to try [ __ ]. all my favorite artists tried [ __ ] yeah. I mean that's why I like you know Prince. M like unapologetically Stevie w yeah.

you know that's also why I like hanging. out with you [ __ ] cuz y'all. just be trying [ __ ] you know you know. where the you know where the the wall is. when you hit that [ __ ] go oh you. know well the thing about our thing is. we have to do it in front of people yeah. right so it's me stoned in front of a. computer going oh this is so crazy. writing [ __ ] out putting it on my phone. and then going all right let's see let's. see what other people they see how it. comes to life but you can create.

all kinds of magic alone that's a. different thing well I might think it's. magic and you never know until until the. thing drops so we'll see what happens. but yeah I feel good about it thanks for. listening man oh my pleasure fan dude I. I don't know you a thing kicks off our. [ __ ] night almost every night at the. Mother Ship when we get in that green. room we get in that green room we want. to get things popping that's I don't. know you're thing is a [ __ ] that's a. work of artart classic it's just kind of. a rude awes [ __ ] y'all. [Laughter].

here yeah it's awesome it's awesome yeah. but congrats on uh one year man thank. you one year yeah it's crazy that's. awesome flew by yeah feels like we just. opened y'all been doing it man that word. on the street y'all are taking over it's. game changing it's fun for real we got. so many guys moved here now oh I know. they're my neighbors now way out in the. country well that's the smart way to. live man I tell everybody I go attack it. from the outside like Tony hinchliff he.

likes living in the city I'm like that's. great and everything like that but. you're going to go crazy you want to be. outside get that balance when I lived in. La I lived way outside of La in in the. hills with coyotes and Mountain lies and. [ __ ] I had to worry about hawks and yeah. you know those are like the things that. I would think about I'd like just that. quiet just quiet and then get into the. crazy and then get back to the quiet. it's a choice yeah chice just have a. like the way you're doing it it's. perfect live in the country just relax. yeah when you get outside and drink a.

cup of coffee on your porch man you just. chilling just birds and [ __ ] beautiful. grass and. trees yeah I become such a [ __ ] nerd. bro I've. been I've been sitting outside and like. walking around my house I've gone to the. camera store I spent way too much money. on camera gear trying to capture the. perfect clip to send national g graphic.

of the Mexican Eagles in my backyard and. I'm just eag just sitting out there with. the crazy zoom lens Qui. stalking trying to get this shot I would. say yeah I spend way too much time out. there but you know it's so you got one. of those big crazy nature lenses I'm I'm. that guy oh wow I think I might quit. music and try and get a gig doing that. really I get off doing that like I'm I. get yeah I'm yeah that's a Mex wow what. a cool looking bird he got a t or.

something on. wi crested caraka yeah yeah is that you. say it kakara kakara karaka. kakara Mexican eagle what a [ __ ]. beautiful animal you have those in your. yard yeah there's like there's a family. of like three of them they swoop down. and hang out all the time I had a hawk. try to sweep in on my chickens the other. day the chickens in the backyard and all. of a sudden the chickens talk going.

flopping their wings and running around. I look at them there's this Hawk coming. circling you got to watch out for those. [ __ ] I saw a hawk swop up a kid. and I didn't think about that when I. moved out into the this is on video or. something I don't know if this was fake. probably Eagle yeah yeah something yeah. but I was like I didn't even think about. having to look out for that in the. country cuz Hawk came down and swooped. up or swooped down and got one of my. chickens right in front of my boy he was. like five at the time he's like what is. that I was like woo that's you know.

that's that's the world happening you. know Ian that's nature that's how it. goes down in the real world exactly not. this weird thing that we've constructed. to insulate ourselves from it and think. that we're the most powerful I mean when. you sit out there and you see a hawk. swoop down and grab another you know. sizable animal and just take off with it. you're like. okay you know okay you know it's not. that safe I mean I I walk around.

out there on my property and there's. been a couple times where I've almost. stepped on a rattlesnake yeah you know. um My Wife and Kids just stepped over a. rattlesnake getting out of the truck. right there in the driveway and those. little baby rap Rattlers they had no. idea I looked down stomped on his head I. was like you know you you don't have to. think about crazy things like that you. know going fishing my daughter caught a. water moccasin oh [ __ ] a fishing line. yeah she was all excited Daddy I got a. snake I was like.

yo not that one not that one that is not. the one you want wow on a hook yeah on a. hook she it was like a one of those. little um like one of those little kid. poles it's like a Elsa or one of those. little. princess just you know reeling in coton. Mouse wow like nothing country I didn't. know they bought they bought on the line. like that like they they'll attack bait. I didn't know that either.

mhm yeah yeah yeah yeah so come get some. of that if you want to step out of the. city you know yeah yeah um but uh I love. it though yeah I did too I I love. getting into the madness I you know I. don't want to hate on it I I mean I love. wandering in I love wandering around. downtown with the camera popping into. certain spots and you know I check in on. y'all go to the blues spots and catch. the mad and got to excite myself to.

shake it up a little bit you know and. then just take it back home and get the. zoom lens out and nerd away well it's a. good balance of different things and if. you want to go see like live [ __ ] like. this town is so good for that man. there's so much live performance going. on there's so much comedy there's so. much music yeah you know yeah it's great. I like seeing the musicians watching the. comics and the comics watching the. musicians I like that I loveing music. cuz I have no Talent so it's I love.

watching a thing where I have no talent. in I've no I've never played anything so. I watch and just like you're doing magic. up there like look at these guys doing. magic I brought a guitar for you and if. at least we're going to teach you how to. play an ecord before I get out of here. okay I'll I'll try yeah I'll try it I. I've never even tried it well that's the. problem is that the problem no the. problem is here's the problem okay I. know my brain oh and my dangerous brain.

I can't my brain can't get interested in. things cuz then it's all in and then. it's like [ __ ] eaten let's do this all. day I so I've learned through all my. years how to keep that wolf in a cage. and not to let it out so that's why I. don't put. golf got you cuz I'm addicted to pool. it's a real problem I play like a I. could play like a hair under. professional speed when I'm on when I'm. really on I've been practicing for. several hours I could run I ran three. racks the other day three racks in a row.

that's big four and a quter inch Pockets. yeah see that's the problem like I get. like that with music I would get like. that with anything I get like that with. golf for sure I see Jamie he's a full-on. junkie he's a full-on junkie he's got a. simulator out there and I come here and. like when I pull the car up he's driving. balls into the simulator and mapping it. out on a [ __ ] computer. obsess wow obsessed with his Club speed. he's got a [ __ ] killer drive too you. like set up to the whole. sensor thing and reads I don't I don't.

have all that yet like it's. coming there got some cool stuff on the. way I think I've watched it get you. though that's what's interesting like. when we first met you were not into golf. like how many years ago did you get in. the golf when we got here when we got to. Austin yeah yeah so four years ago so in. four years he's become a stone cold. junkie got you so is henchcliffe Stone. Cold junkie Ron White Ron White's a. junkie just a lot of people that the.

whatever the pandemic did the golf bug. went around it was one only things you. could do then that's not when I was. playing but it was but it seems to me. like it's one of those things that once. you do it and you you do it and you. start getting better at it you just. [ __ ] love it and then everybody. becomes an addict I I know very few. people who dabble and golf you know a. lot of people they'll play pool a little. bit here and then but they don't get. like fully addicted golf people get just. addicted I don't get that that I'm. scared of that too I get that now you.

know understanding your own brain I. don't I don't gamble that's it I don't. play golf yeah any of that cuz it's over. for me yeah it's already a problem with. these stupid cameras my wife is like. you're not a [ __ ] what are you. doing but yet you are yeah yeah you are. you are whatever the [ __ ] you want to be. I'm obsessed yeah I don't like people. telling you what to do that drives me. nuts when I hear people telling you what. to do and tell about giving you advice. on music just shut the [ __ ] up everybody. shut the [ __ ] up and just Market.

whatever he does yeah it's yeah well. yeah right I did it you you sell it but. you know the thing is is uh that it's. it's it's not people telling me what to. do it's meetings and suggestions right. so I'm translating it as people tell me. what that is what it is though. suggestions it's as much as they can do. as much as they can tell Gary Clark Jr. how to make music they're going to give. it a shot well you know you know what. I'm saying it's just it's just annoying. exists in comedy they're always telling. comedians do this do that dress nice do.

this do that stop talking about Co stop. talking about this do you know you lose. 5% of the audience when you do this and. 10% shut the [ __ ] up shut up yeah I was. in a conversation the other day in New. York talking about the set list and you. should put this in this order and do. this and this I was like you know what. y'all talk about it I don't talk I don't. want to I I I'm leaving this. conversation I'm going go up on the roof. I'm going to put some smok in air and. then I'm do my [ __ ] show like chill.

out you know shut the [ __ ] up telling. you how to do a set list oh it's funny. it's a fun it's a funky business you. know they're all like that Gary yeah. yeah they're all like that TV was like. that when I was on on news radio it was. maddening cuz here you have this guy. Paul Sims This brilliant writer from the. Larry Sanders show all these amazing. cast members it's incredible writing. staff and then you have the network it's. you need a wacky neighbor you know you. needed this you needed that you know we. need to have a hot girl that Dave's.

interested in there was always something. like stay the [ __ ] out of this stay out. of this yeah but they can't help. themselves yeah and you have to listen. to them because they're the executives. they're the people that have the money. right okay and you love doing the art. exactly you know so it's this weird. relationship MH you know that's one of. the best things about comedy is you. don't really have that relationship with. anybody anymore we used to have it with. TV but now that's all gone yeah you. could you guys you can do whatever you. want yeah I was telling uh you couple of.

guys I when I show up to The Comedy Spot. I you know you guys are nice enough to. give me free drinks and so I take. advantage and then I start to I start I. to start to go off man you guys are the. real [ __ ] rock stars you can just do. whatever the hell you want nobody can. tell you [ __ ] you just go you just go. and uh but I mean it is true you know. it's you guys got a freedom that and. in a creative space to say whatever you.

want at any time and and uh that's cool. it's inspiring you know it's fun it's. especially at that place because that. place is you know made for us by us yeah. sure it's all ours we're the only ones. who own it nobody owns it but us like. everybody else has to listen to us. that's never been the case it's always. been there was an owner and the manager. is hired by the owner and they give you. the rules yeah so the rules are now like. I go in the Green Room what do you guys. think and everybody just starts giving.

off opinions I think this I think that. I'm like okay we'll do it that way. that's cool we all agree okay we'll do. it that way that's amazing so because of. that we've been able to just have it. like a real safe haven it really is like. a Mothership yeah because everybody. there goes and travels and does the road. but they come back home to home base. they come back to the Mothership that's. how you build the community that's a. prime example yeah and it's just like. everybody who comes here is looking for. that too and then when they get it and. they realize oh this is real yeah like.

this is real this isn't just like a. everybody wants that thing you know like. oh I wish there was a place we could go. we all just hang out together and every. night just do shows and everybody's. creatively inspiring everybody and then. once you actually have it you're like oh. my God it can be real yeah it can be. real cuz we had it a little bit at the. store we had it a lot at the store in LA. but we also had owners and you know who. are great we had managers we had. Hollywood agents would come there's.

always people's managers hanging around. there was all these there's a lot of. other stuff there you know and then. there's also the Hollywood feel which is. a different feel because what percentage. of those people out there in the. audience are in the business like a. giant chunk at least half at least half. those people out there in that audience. are actors or writers or producers or. Executives or someone who does something. that has to do with the business out. here is just folks yeah it's just folks. yeah it's better that way it really is.

it's just people who just love the [ __ ]. yeah it's just fans just comedy fans who. just have all kinds of different jobs. all kinds of different things they do. with their life and they just want to. come out and have a good time it's. awesome yeah and it's just it's magical. it's very cool that's for me the. absolute best thing that came out of the. pandemic number one moving here number. two being able to set that place up yeah. well I I mean as a as a fan I think. that's one of the best things that come. out of the pandemic too so here cheers.

to you man one year thank you sir yes. indeed yeah it's exciting we thought. about doing one somewhere else but I was. like you know what we really should do. one we should do one for like the summer. in Montana just find some [ __ ] up town. in Montana have people fly into it just. to a Mothership in Montana Montana would. be amazing I love. Montana Montana's amazing Mont would. yeah that that would blow up dude yeah.

we Tony's like don't [ __ ] do it don't. go to I'm not going to Montana I'm like. come on and Duncan was like I'll get a. house in Montana let's go Montana's. beautiful Duncan's thinking about doing. mushrooms in the fields stare at the. stars I'm with Duncan on that I'm with. that. 100% yeah so yeah that'd be cool you're. thinking about expanding possibly just. that was the only thought like just buy. some land Montana some weird Town.

Montana just put a Mothership up drop. the mother in the middle there see who. comes it get Interesting Man Montana's. yeah it's got some funky cool fols out. there it does but you also have a lot of. people that travel that's what's. interesting too that's one of the things. we found out about this spot it's not. just like people in Austin that are. coming to these shows yeah it's people. traveling from all over the world so. it's like you could make it's almost. like a little Vegas residency type deal. it's become a destination about yeah. it's about us yeah if you could do that. to a small funky town in Montana you.

only if you only had like 120 seats you. could get a lot done make it better yeah. huh well I'll be. there I'll be out there trying to learn. how to fly fish and I I'll drop in on. you fly fish is is kind of [ __ ] up. because they let those fish go most of. the time I well which is a little weird. the hippie in me gets that I get that. too but the the hippie and me says well. why catch them then the hippie and me is. like you're just [ __ ] with these fish. yeah it's like you're just trying to get.

the juice that feeling that you get when. you catch a fish yeah that wild. feel I'm guilty me too I've done it I've. done Catch and Release especially bass. fishing oh yeah yeah I mean everybody. catches and releases yeah absolutely I. got you know I got a little spot out of. my house and we catch and release every. now and then fillet them up catfish or. whatever FR up and stuff like that but. for the most part just hang with my kids. and learn how. you know be patient kind of teach him.

how to just chill out wait for something. I know when is a fish going to bite yeah. when the fish can bite when you shut the. [ __ ] up chill out you know no no come. but yeah yeah that's my next that's my. next Quest that I'm probably scared of. because a buddy of mine Jacob skea he's. uh guy I work with in the studio. producer. engineer um while we were recording he. went out and uh has gone on a couple of. fly fishing Expeditions and he's kind of.

hooked and so I'm he's like you got to. come out there with me and I'm like yeah. yeah yeah and then next thing you know I. quit playing guitar and I'm the guy fly. fishing with the big zoom lens out there. in Montana waiting for the mother ship. to. open yeah that's the thing is like when. people say that they get bored I'm like. how can you be bored there's so many. things to do there's so many things to. do in this life absolutely there's so. many things to get interested in you. know how could you be bored to me it's. like my problem is the total opposite.

like I just can't have more things right. that I'm interested in yeah I I I I. like to get to a feeling where I'm bored. or feel like I have time to be bored. because I. can you know invest my time in certain. things like photography or you know gave. me an outlet to go chase something down. and uh For Better or For Worse I feel. like fulfilled like I'm learning a new.

skill I'm challenging myself it's it's. I'm never satisfied there's so much to. know there's so much to do but I'm like. a Hands-On guy so it's like you know if. I'm bored playing guitar I'll try and. figure out something on piano if I'm. bored playing piano like I have bag. pipes I don't know why I have bag pipes. but just in case I get the time to get. bored maybe I'll figure out how to play. back pipes yeah you know just weird [ __ ]. well it's something about learning a new. thing that excit a part of your mind. that doesn't get excited any other way.

sure because once you already know how. to do something then you're just kind of. practicing that thing that you already. doing and you're very comfortable with. it it's a normal thing that you do but. when there's a new thing it's like what. how does this work what's this lens what. happens when I turn left oh [ __ ] yeah. right and they're like okay what is the. aperture what does that mean like what's. exposure time how much what is it so at. night time you said it different like. what the [ __ ] is and then you start. getting into the books and into the. weeds and you know I got like that with. archery nerded nerded out hard with.

archery so I know so much [ __ ] about. archery yeah but there's so many layers. to that too like there's people that. like my friend John Dudley I'll talk to. him about I don't even know what the. [ __ ] he's talking about right he's. talking about torqu lean and you. know torque setting bows and like what. torque tuning what I I've I'm I've got a. uh my brother-in-law is really into B I. think I hit you up and I was when I was. over there in Australia he was like hit. up Joe and ask him what kind of B is you. but yeah he's really into that my mom's.

really into archery really yeah my mom. my mom I'm I'm put you I'mma put you out. there my mom doesn't mind being in a. smoky room she started playing drums and. she's into archery now so. wow yeah she's she's out here getting it. playing drums and shooting bows and. arrows [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah it's really. badass that's badass wow mhm yeah. archery is an addictive thing too. because at the moment when you're aiming.

at the Target and you're at full draw. it's impossible to think of anything. else it requires so much concentration. that the world goes away and you have. this like insanely narrow F Focus the. insanely narrow focus is the place where. you want that Arrow to go and all these. different things have to be in order. your scapula has to be aligned your. elbow has to be high your right arm has. to be pulled back your left arm have to. be locked and stabilized you have to. release your hand so you're just pushing.

with the palm of your hand no movement. of your hand whatsoever and then you. have to relax the shoulder somehow while. extending fully and all the while you. have to fight anxiety you don't want to. pull it quick you want to make sure you. just get it locked in there so when all. that is going on there's nothing else in. the world like if I'm I got a lot of. things on my mind I'm too busy I'm too. this I'm stressed out let's just go out. there with some arrows and then within. 20 minutes I feel great it's like yeah.

my only time to think about other. [ __ ] is while I'm walking over to. the Target and get my arrows yeah yeah. pulling the arrows out and then back to. what I was doing start sprinting to that. [ __ ] yeah if I could just keep. fire and tar and never have to go get. the arrows yeah there would be no. thinking at all I get that I I can kind. of relate that to playing guitar in a. way you can't in order to to you know. it's kind of a Precision that your hands.

got to work in sync and coordination and. and you got to be precise with it or. else it kind of all falls off the rails. and you can't really think about. anything else it's not like you can be. on the phone and play guitar it's not. you can send emails back and forth you. can't really be in conversation with. people you just have to be locked in to. execute yeah you know and and you know. which shots are better than the others. you know which cores are played stronger. than the others you know which notes are.

are are going to sting you know what I. mean it's like that's the note you know. Bullseye [ __ ] yeah I can kind of. relate in that way you can't you can't. it's like Flow State yeah check out you. know you got to be there you have to put. in 100% or else you're not going to be. great I think that's there a lot of. things in life I think there's a lot of. things in life that people gravitate. towards because I think there's a great. value in having a thing that takes the. rest of the world away mhm that thing.

could be golf like it is for Jamie it. could be anything whatever it is but. there's a real value in having a thing. that takes the world away I think so I. think so yeah yeah yeah my name would. have. been I had a lot longer rap sheet if I. hadn't found guitar at a young age I. think you know just being lost confused. so many people out there mhm yeah if I. hadn't found martial arts oh God God.

damn I have no idea what would have. happened to. me was the only thing that I had ever. done that made me feel like I wasn't a. loser I was like all of a sudden I found. a thing that I know that I can do and if. I just go all in so when that's why I. have like this problem with addicting. getting addicted to things CU that was. like the first one that I really got. really addicted to and then it just sort. of like transmuted it changed just the. way I interact with everything did you. have a a good experience off the bat did. you notice that you were like a winner.

immediately not immediately but pretty. quickly that. was for it just it was a I I understood. it y I understood like distance I. understood like how to hit things hard. there was like and it was the exciting. thing about it like you're there's. moving targets they're moving at you. you're moving at them like this like. solving this puzzle of of human reflexes. and instincts and flinching at them. to Rea anding what that reaction is.

going to be different ways to set things. up it's like so multi-layered and. multifaceted and when you're young. you're so fast like you can move so. quick it's exci and you learn so quick. too sure you know yeah so it's just you. see instantaneous reward cuz if you're. learning something while your body is. growing it's the best because your body. grows into these movements so your body. has like a builtin way of doing these.

things from its like literally from the. ground up once you're a grown. man and you try to teach a grown man. like kickboxing it's like. okay you know you're like so accustomed. to doing certain things with your legs. you get these grown ass 30-year-old man. legs and I'm going to try to teach you. how to throw a spinning back kick yeah I. was like okay yeah that's why I haven't. signed up yet. it's worth doing it just for fun though.

sure and it's that's another thing like. when you're doing that you ain't. thinking about if you're sparring or if. you're you know doing Jiu-Jitsu training. you're not thinking about anything else. you cannot think about anything else. you're just fully locked in to this. thing that you're doing yeah that makes. sense man I wish I'd uh grown into. my body while playing basketball cuz I'm. 6'4 and a whole waste of space I have no. skills. I have a 15 foot jumper that I'm pretty.

confident in but I have no handles I'm. like you know I I just it's a waste. people ask me you play. basketball nope didn't get that and I. tried man I tried I had friends who had. the shoes where you could you know like. the build your calves for jumping and I. was out there doing walk around with. weights and all that [ __ ] I was really. trying to get there man like got no hops. no court awareness it just wasn't my.

thing bro I'm like a deer in headlights. on the basketball court it's. embarrassing bro but uh yeah I so I try. and get out there with my kid now he. plays basketball and I'm I'm struggling. my knees are. popping 40-year-old reality yeah man. like damn I didn't yeah that that wasn't. my. forte but hey you can't be everything no. you cannot be everything and if you try. to be everything you'll be nothing I. agree yeah you just it's not you got to.

pick Lanes sure you can have a couple. Lanes but you can't have too many and. each lane will take away from the. resources that that other lane has. available I agree I agree. that's that's why I try and tell my wife. all the time like I can't focus on that. right now yeah I'm trying to stay in my. Lane people that don't have to do that. don't understand it like sometimes. people come to me with like business. stuff and I'm like this is not I can't. talk right now yeah I've got [ __ ] going.

on sure I'm busy let's talk about this. when it's absolutely necessary and never. a minute before that part yeah say it. again loud for the ones that didn't have. the volume up yeah eventually we could. talk about this but not now seriously. man they'll try to talk to you about. important [ __ ] right before a. show this is so crazy that you're doing. this like you don't even understand what. you're doing yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. yeah. really yeah that's that's one of my.

biggest that's one of my biggest uh. issues with doing shows and and and. there's like some sort of you know. business element involved cuz you know. when you're out just on the road with. your touring crew or whatever there's. not that those conversations it's not. those talks everybody kind of gets it. reads the room then you have folks to. come in and go hey I was thinking about. this idea with this company it's like. the tour manager comes in and goes 5. minutes and it's like I'm trying to get. my monitors on I'm trying to war my.

voice I'm trying to you know and they're. just selfish yeah captive you're captive. audience yeah yeah yeah yeah I like man. get the [ __ ] up I finally got you alone. I want to talk to you about this crypto. currency yeah right yeah yeah yeah no. thanks but yeah that's part of it's it's. part of it I guess it's just it's weird. and kind of funny if you think about it. it is kind of weird just you know what's. on these different personalities are. interacting with each other you know you.

have the creative personality and you. have all the business people and the. people that are support team yeah those. all it's an odd relationship yeah you. know sure whenever you mi business and. art there's just to totally different. mindsets yeah it's yeah it's it's uh. it's North and North yeah that's why. people get real suspicious if an artist. gets real business oriented starts. opening up a bunch of business is and. gets all busy MH people like oh what are.

you doing what do you I want you to be. an artist yeah right yeah yeah that's. what I like about you dummy yeah yeah. yeah yeah yeah that's what I like about. you I like that you don't know anything. just I like that you're out there just. being wild yeah have a good [ __ ] time. just have a bunch of people that do that. [ __ ] for you man don't get involved. that's the that's the scary part and. they start saying don't worry about that. just be an artist like nah [ __ ]. I'm going be get your office tomorrow. early in the morning let me see that.

spreadsheet what's going on yeah well. that's a true that's a that's a story is. oldest time the artists that's been. ripped off didn't even know they were. getting ripped off yeah yeah it's it's. definitely true it's you know there's. there's things that I've had to learn in. the in the business you know um not to. get into too much but yeah there's. definitely things that you aren't. looking for or looking out for and. people don't necessarily tell you. because you're not able to be in those.

rooms to have those conversations so. things kind of slip by you it's like you. and your homies trying to figure this. out you know it's like your your boy. who's an attorney who you know went to. UNLV but doesn't know anything about. entertainment law it's like you know. doing your contract it's like oh you. know what I'm saying it's like yeah you. know so there's just things that that. that you got to figure out but you just. got to keep your eyes and ears. open and ask questions the worst one is.

when someone has a like legit manager. and then their friend is like bro I. could be your [ __ ] manager. uhhuh and you're like yeah man you know. you're like a brother to me man I trust. you right right yeah that's the that's. that's it that one goes sideways 50% of. the time that's it 5 Z you got one one. out of two chance of that thing going. completely sideway y absolutely and so. many guys go that way you know oh Mike's.

managing me now I got a new manager yeah. it's my wife my wife's management like. what what are you doing M get a. professional yeah get someone who knows. what the [ __ ] they're doing absolutely. man that all that bro [ __ ] you know that. you know things start to get. funny yeah that relationship starts to. get funny but yeah that's how how dudes. develop Entourage. that's a wild one man speaking of.

entourages I had to talk I had to just. tell my dad is gone crazy oh no I love. my pops. but I mean he shows up to my shows and. this dude all of a sudden is sitting. courtside at Spurs. games he shows up to my shows with like. 30 folks 30 deep he's got a table with. the Moody Theater he's living his best. life he's just squatted up around people. talk to me about him all the time my dad. is out here getting in Austin Texas it's.

pretty funny wow but yeah he's like my. pops is a superstar out here that's. awesome yeah that's good he's having a. good time just having fun yeah enjoying. it yeah you know it's it's definitely. enjoying uh having a a kid who's known. around town you yeah that's good oh man. he must be so proud but yeah he he's. he's getting a little bit ridiculous. showing up 10 15 deep entour H me.

hitting me up hey man can you get me. into this spot how many people you got h. a. couple yeah when Dave rolled when Dave. Chelle came to the Mothership he came. with three. SUVs he's got he had like three. Escalades filled with people where did. they go how do you fit anywhere oh man. he's got family he's got friends got. fellow fellow comedians musicians like. he just travels with people he loves it. it's like a party where he goes I get. that yeah I I understand that it's a lot.

he hasn't managed well he has good. people with him he knows he knows what. he's doing but it's like the way he's. got it set up is it's pretty fun just. it's all just every day is a good time. get a get a IV vitamin IV drip y I was. around for that I was I was around Yeah. we actually yeah yeah I was definitely. around for some of those fun times just. SC hanging with those that crew yeah but. that's a that's a dude was Entourage.

that's Entourage I get that yeah I get. it um yeah I could never be that guy I. like to roll solo I like to just kind of. be on my I can make my own decisions if. I want to Pivot go left I can go left if. I want to go right I can go right yeah. don't necessarily have to maybe that's. selfish of me and kind of a lone wolf no. it's probably smart because it gives you. time to think I think the problem with. Dave is he's so famous he can't be alone. oh yeah yeah yeah just can't you can't. just show up somewhere he'll all of a.

sudden he won't be alone there'll be a. giant crowd of people like oh my God. they just go crazy absolutely I can't. believe you're real I get that bro can I. take a picture with you and then I get. the every now and then uh dude who plays. guitar he like man I've been watching. you for you know since I was a kid or. the like really. drunk like older lady who wants to like. kiss on me you know hang out waiting for. some to go food or whatever it's like.

that's kind of my that's that's my. interaction that's good that's a good. level of interaction yeah certain level. like a Dave Chappelle level I think it. becomes unmanageable yeah like I was. having a conversation with cat Cat. Williams about that like he I asked him. to come to the club he's like I don't do. clubs so guys going get nervous being. around all those people like they're too. close to me ah I was like you got too. famous yeah you got too famous yeah yeah. yeah he has to have an Entourage yeah I. mean I get that I get that that's a. perspective that I don't know anything.

about yeah I'm just speaking from a dude. who you know a small community of Music. folks yeah you know I can move around. but um it's perfect yeah it's pretty. good where you're at perfect I know it's. it's good but I want these people to buy. millions and millions of Records to fill. up. Arenas you know at the same time right. exactly I think I've kind of you know. [ __ ] myself I was like should have G. like the gorillas router like da Punk or. something like that where you in a mask.

or you know what I mean you can just. show up anywhere that's true right. gorillas can just hide yeah kiss had. that forever sure you know I remember. when kiss took their makeup off. everybody was like what year was that. like the 80s I think yeah I think it was. the 80s was kiss on. masked I couldn't imagine like oh my God. they used to be able to go around town. so they would go out and like they would. like I remember Jean Simmons was dating.

share and he would go out but he put a. bandan on like he's during covid times. all right yeah so I was like we almost. got a picture of him so it like half. blurry pictures of someone side of their. face their hand up that's all you got a. Kiss Forever that's cool I I kind of. miss those days of that Mystique a comic. for it does that really. great yeah see how he's wearing the. bandan that's how he used to go around. town he used to wear a bandana you know. ridiculous that is is 1980 yeah yeah I.

was in I was like going into high school. when they did that oh. [Laughter]. damn what a crew man what a wow they. didn't get the love they deserve because. people had already thought it was corny. to have makeup on for some reason they. didn't have real hit records that were. like they their songs didn't play on the. radio that much if they played on the. radio it was rare you don't think so. well I. I kind of grew up as kiss being a.

household name off yeah well they were. huge they sold millions of Records they. sold out Arenas but they weren't getting. love on the radio it was just fans and. there was a thing that were like people. would be embarrassed to be a kiss fan. really yeah yeah you'd be embarrassed. other the kids would make fun of you why. cuz you like those idiots with makeup on. what the [ __ ] is wrong with you like bro. kiss is the [ __ ] that doesn't even seem. like a thing now all now it's not but. you have to realize like in the 1980s it.

was a thing right yeah people would mock. you that you if you're in a kiss damn. and then they became cool again they. became cool again somewhere in the 90s. when they started going on tour again. with makeup right so they were going to. do like one last final tour they decided. but that was [ __ ] they just kept. going everyone does a last tour last. last last last that's those marketing. guys I'll tell you what Gary this is. your final tour this is saying he. doesn't have to be the final tour but. we'll sell it as your final tour yeah.

we're going to milk the [ __ ] out of. people are going to love it they're. going to be very excited to go see the. last time Gary's going to become a. photographer he he's just really gotten. into photography we're goingon to have. to respect that yeah we're gonna have to. respect this vicious but this is his. last tour Gary don't quit don't go into. pictures don't. go don't go photography Gary don't do it. but it's say. kiss so kiss came back in the 90s and I. went to see him with Kevin James me and.

Kevin James went to see kiss when they. came back we're like this is amazing is. that in Hollywood I think it was I think. it was in LA think we saw in La it was. incredible it was incredible with the. makeup on all the [ __ ] fire man those. guys. really. turned uh rock and roll into like. entertainment yeah you know what I mean. like it was every single aspect of the. show from the costumes to the p the. timing the crazy Antics the just I mean.

and then selling it like this big huge. thing with the merch and the dolls and. the crazy [ __ ] it was like I mean it was. it was they they made it known that kiss. was a [ __ ] thing and they had the. fans I guess to to to push it but I. that's they had a on hourong TV show W I. don't know that where it was like a. movie like a made for TV movie it was. kiss and the Phantom of the. park I don't know I was like this and in.

the middle of it like three4 of the way. into the show the [ __ ] power went out. at my house I was like. no I can't believe this I can't believe. it shut off it just the power shut off I. was like this is so [ __ ] this is kiss. in the Phantom of the park it was like a. real corny made for TV. movie how long were you waiting for this. thing well when you were kiss fan first. of all you had to find out from like the. newspaper oh yeah you know like how did.

you even know or you had to read the TV. Guide like what kiss has got a movie. right and it was maybe the dumbest movie. that's ever been made it's pretty dumb. it's so dumb I need like look at this. it's so Cy I mean I might have to go. back and watch it. now it's so. Cy it's literally so ridiculous it's so. bad so so they're out here whooping ass. what are they F superheroes they became.

superheroes for a while I did not know. this easy they are serious and they've. got guns this is ridiculous it is. ridiculous oh it was so ridiculous it. was one of the dumbest movies that's. ever been made I some of my I my. favorite [ __ ] to watch is the dumbest. [ __ ] so I this is so dumb it might have. been made by the Chinese they might have. done it to subvert American institutions. they might have done it to try to ruin. young minds and just lower the standards.

of what acceptable to the point where. you know they can. invade I mean that's a power move for. sure that's a that's what they're doing. right now that's a power move oh that's. what they're doing right now with Tik. Tok man I firmly believe that I Russia. and China are just [ __ ] us sideways I. I'll tell you right now man I've been. having conversations about you know. music and sharing music and the way to. be on is Tik Tok like it's the way to.

like get everybody to this crazy [ __ ]. up weird place it's like it's nasty in. there well it's something that people. are not designed to manage they don't. know how to manage it they don't know. what that experience is it's new to the. human anatomy to have some thing that. you're staring at that you keep in your. pocket that carries 20 hours of battery. life and just flipping through things. all day long just giving a little tiny. drip of dopamine every time yeah not. much just enough to keep you interested.

just flipping through that [ __ ] phone. all day long it's changing the way. people view things it's changing what's. acceptable yeah absolutely I I've. noticed that it that it changed me when. we were sitting down for a little while. cuz I was just in my phone that was the. only way that I was getting information. I wasn't hanging out with people yeah it. changes your anxiety levels that's what. I realized I real it changed my anxiety. levels I was not sleeping I was drinking. a lot more than I normally would just.

cuz I was like overthinking [ __ ] yeah. you know that was Co too though the. isolation that's I'm not saying that. this is what they did but if you wanted. to do that if you wanted to turn a. population into a bunch of cowards one. of the best ways is to isolate everybody. isolate everybody get them scared give. them one solution to get out of this. thing everybody else against that. solution is the enemy and they're going. to stop us from getting back to normal. oh absolutely and that's. that you could do that through social. media especially through Twitter better.

than you can with anything and it's just. it's just it's a weird way to get. information just I I broke my phone once. I was in Hawaii with my family and I. dropped my phone it just started making. phone calls just would I would go look. at this I was showing my wife I go look. at this I hang up call someone else hang. up call someone just calling people. wouldn't stop calling people so I had to. shut it off and I had to get a new phone. but it took 3 days for the phone to get. there so for three days I had no phone. cuz every time I turn my phone I would. just start calling people yeah so for. three whole days I had no phone and it.

was I was like oo I feel so much better. and then and then part of me was like. you know what [ __ ] phones you should. just have a phone and have nothing on. nope no went right back to it yeah yeah. yeah right back to Instagram right back. to Twitter right back to YouTube right. back to Google I know right back I know. I did the same [ __ ] one person sends me. a meme oh [ __ ] yeah it's over yeah it's. it's over yeah you're back in the game. man someone sends me a funny video I got.

to sign back up for Instagram all right. let me see this oh [ __ ] yeah I got your. same problem I got your same problem I I. got to just I have to consciously just. leave it in places well I have one phone. that has nothing on it I have one phone. that has no apps doesn't have anything. on it so if someone sends me I got to. send a link to my other phone nice and. most of the time I don't click that link. there's the hack that's the hack at. least has cut me back about 30% for sure. 30% of paying attention to [ __ ] unless.

someone says you you have to see this. this is. insane okay I can use that 30% yeah I'll. use my 30% now I'm going to use that. yeah yeah for sure that way also you can. cut down on the amount of people that. have your phone phone you got your phone. and you got your phone phone yeah and. the phone phone is like this is the one. that like 20 people have that's the way. to go yeah I was doing that for a while. when I lived in New York I was I had I. was doing that and then I just got I was. wearing skinny jeans and I couldn't do.

the skinny jean two phone thing and my. wallet and my keys it just was. ridiculous you accept the fanny pack in. your life well. look ah the Satchel I've showed up with. the Satchel bro I'm converted Satchel is. the artist version of the fanny pack the. fanny pack is saying I don't give a. [ __ ] is like I'm Ur I'm a loser I don't. care do not care I'm not ready for that. yet Joe well in Texas you see people.

carrying fanny packs a lot of those. fanny packs have guns in them especially. those big ones oh yeah I know where I'm. at yeah yeah know where I'm. at there's a reason you see that dude. with a [ __ ] Bass Pro Shop hat and a. [ __ ] flannel t-shirt on yeah yeah. that guy yeah with that fanny pack yeah. yeah yeah yeah don't try origin boots on. yeah that dude that's there's something. in that that's a heavy fanny pack I just. see them cats and I just go yeah.

hey howdy good. day that's why I see people out here. getting I saw some dude getting road. rage the other night at South by. Southwest bro bro this guy jumped out of. his car ran to the car in front of him. started yelling at the driver I was like. do not do that sir I do not want to. watch you get shot you got to they got. to be from out of town cuz you can't do. South by Southwest you yeah yeah you. can't do rade [ __ ] bro. no no it goes south too quick people.

don't [ __ ] around out here they don't. [ __ ] around and they also don't know you. they don't know what they they watch too. much YouTube too they're watching too. much Instagram too they're seeing all. the [ __ ] riots and craziness and. people getting pulled out of their cars. everyone's seen those videos of someone. getting [ __ ] up in a some sort of a. road raage situation yeah any any sense. of a threat people are yeah hair trigger. like real quick road rage in particular. because everybody's people don't. understand I've said this ad nause but. I'll say it again when you're in a car. you're hyper alert because you're going.

fast there's all these things around you. and you always have to be ready so your. brain is at a seven already yeah so when. someone cuts you off it's like. [ __ ] that's why like on the. street if someone gets in front of you. on the street it means nothing CU you. don't have to worry about crashing sure. there's no fear of this person stepping. in front of you it means nothing right. like I have no worry that I'm going to. crash into this man in front of me and. we're both going to die right but when. you're in a car and some guy changes. Lanes in front of you like [ __ ]. dude what are you doing [ __ ] you roll. down the W you [ __ ] idiot and then.

you see him at the stop sign you jump. out of your car oh dude don't do it yeah. I I I I'm I'm guilty. of yeah I'm I'm in my I'm yelling at. people in my car as long as you stay in. the car but yeah I I I will [ __ ]. somebody with the windows up yes that's. fine but uh normal normal behavior yeah. and then I get to the light and I just. give him a look like yeah you know I saw. what you did I'm just acknowledging yeah.

that I'm not down with the [ __ ] yeah. I just want you to know that I saw you I. don't want no problems right but just. check check come on man Che it's a come. on man and if it's a reasonable person. that person's like what the [ __ ] did I. do that for yeah if it's a reasonable. person my favorite those when they just. keep looking forward. yeah yeah. I know you could feel this I know you. could feel this yeah well it's.

interesting watching the Texas culture. get invaded by the California culture. you can see it in how they drive yeah. the people that are cutting people off. and you know rushing to Nowhere you see. it in how they drive I notice it I avoid. I avoid certain streets yeah based on. that some like where the [ __ ] did y'all. come from man well that was South by. Southwest South by Southwest basically. like La comes to Austin yeah you know. yeah yeah I yeah I stayed away for the.

most part I had a couple of of of events. during southp. but I I love my. city but that [ __ ] is just gotten crazy. man those festivals are nuts it's it's. wild yeah I I used to have this one. parking spot that people thought was a. was uh a handicapped spot but it was it. wasn't it was like right on line and I. figured this out from years of spending. way too much time wandering around on.

Sixth Street and I remember one year. they took that spot away and I was. driving around for like an hour and a. half looking for parking [ __ ] this place. Man this ain't my city no. more I love you Austin but yeah I was. like oh man the game has definitely. changed um while we were driving to the. club last night we looked up we saw five. skyscrapers being built there's five. skyscrapers being built right now. although I know all those folks who are. building on this stuff I I know them.

they're like my neighbors and [ __ ] so. they're like Come Blow the city up and. then come back to go back to the country. again yeah but there's so many apartment. buildings being built it's happening. yeah it's wild I've never seen a city. grow like this I haven't either I. haven't either but uh I think it was. inevitable I mean I think it was just. one of them things it's too good well. yeah it's just too much of a gem it's I. blame you a little bit a little bit I'm.

responsible I know I'm responsible for. at least 20 or 30 comedians yeah no. absolutely which is um which is amazing. because you know that's my favorite [ __ ]. is you guys being down the street I come. hang um but yeah it's the the city has. grown um in a way that. is somewhat unrecognizable to me like. everything that I kind of grew up on. grew up with is you know all my spots I. used to hang out and are gone now and uh.

so I was saying something to my old man. the other day and he was like man shut. the [ __ ] up he's like I've been here my. whole life and what do you think that I. think what do you think that I've seen. it's just Chang is inevitable if you. look at pictures from 1836 it's not the. same spot right you know what I mean so. it just it's what's happening right now. it's a crazy time to be a part of it and. see it up close you know cuz I'm. watching my little town seeing familiar. faces all of a sudden it's like there's. new energy there's new folks around.

there's new business there a new. business sense here it's a it's it's. cool and funny and funky it's just. change happened I'm in the middle of. watching it yeah yeah I was hanging out. with Elon at the very beginning of the. pandemic whenever it was scared to be. inside and uh I was telling him my plans. to open up the club and all that stuff. yeah and we were just talking about. Austin he's like Austin's gonna go. supernova. yeah he was right yeah he was right yeah.

called it yeah he called it but it's. still manageable it's still like the. traffic is nothing compared to La man. I'm I I like it I like that there's. new [ __ ] here you know in a city that I. grew up in and you're looking for some. excitement it's like it comes to you you. don't have to go look for it you know. just get in my car and come see some new. [ __ ] you know it's um. it's it's exciting for me it's all my.

favorite stuff happening around here too. I think it's good I think it's overall. good and also I think that the people. that are moving here are. embracing this new life they're. embracing like a it's a new city it's a. new Vibe new way of Behaving people are. more friendly it's like I think people. will adapt to that when people move to. an environment they adapt that. environment you know they move to this. town they sort of take up the energy of. the town and this town already has like. an established energy yeah I I'm a.

little I'm still concerned about the. driving. though because they're getting. aggressive well yeah like different they. drive different it's a little different. yeah it's a little different but yeah I. mean yeah you you move to a place that. you love the energy I I suppose it takes. a little while to adapt I mean I'm I'm. I'm just watching it happen I'm watching. it happen it's it's cool to me the tech. people I worry about more than anybody.

cuz they're not artists like the tech. people moving here that what they've. done to San Francisco like those people. with that those wacky woke ideas I'm not. even thinking about that yeah that. scares the [ __ ] out of me cuz there's a. lot of them I mean look at that giant. ass [ __ ] building that they built. that's a Google building right or a. Facebook building which one is it both. of them which one's the sale that cool s. Google Google they put a giant ass. building right on the lake. [Applause]. I don't even know if I noticed that it's. a giant ass building right on Caesar. Chavez but then they just fired like.

15,000 people so I think that place is. mostly like. vacant did did they just. overshoot I think they overshoot that's. it that's oh yeah dope oh yeah that's a. dope building um so I think they. overshot and I also think um the reality. is AI is coming and there's so many. people that are working in Tech that. will not have a job in years right the. job will be nonsense they'll be like you. know asking a person to make steel beams.

in his backyard with a [ __ ] a hammer. and a pot like no why would we do it. that way that's a stupid way to do it we. have steel mills. stupid why would I let you make your own. gter you know that's dumb sure it's dumb. it doesn't make any sense like what we. can do now ai is going to be able to do. better more efficiently much quicker. cheaper yeah no hiring people no.

worrying about insurance or any of that. [ __ ] that you have to worry about with. people 401K plans yeah all that shit's. gone out of here and this is something. that Andrew Yang was talking about when. he was running for president and I guess. it was 2020 he was talking about that. and he was right he was right that. there's some things that are H was that. 2020 or 2016 with Andrew. Yang I don't remember 16 16 and uh he. was very concerned even back then so. this is eight years ago he was saying.

like AI is coming and when it come. that's why he was pushing for Universal. basic sorry 2020 2020 so that's why he. was book um pushing for Universal basic. income he was saying look there's going. to be so many people that there are no. jobs like if you're a truck driver yeah. you have 10 years in 10 years everything. will be automated there all be those. giant electric trucks there'll all be. run by computer they'll never get in. accidents and they never get tired and. then you never have to worry about them.

doing meth and picking up hookers and. going crazy falling asleep at the wheel. driving into a fair that's what makes. the best Cops. episodes that's a world huh that truck. driver world yeah that's a world of wild. folks well you know I we We Tour on. buses and we got to fuel up at the same. places where they do and and uh yeah. it's a it's a it's a funky world out. there it's a funky World a lot of dudes.

on amphetamines doing 12 13 hour runs. just wide eyes huge pupils just. listening to [ __ ] conspiracy theories. on the radio we had one of them drive us. did you yeah yeah yeah crash the bus oh. no really yeah yeah yeah well not crash. the bus but like kind of ran the bus. into. a he he ruined the bus he was all doped. up and super drunk and oh no yeah we.

didn't realize he was going through any. of this type of stuff so we were leaving. a gig one night and sure enough he. pulled the bus crashed into the gate oh. no had to grab this [ __ ] so he. was [ __ ] up at the gig yeah so he got. [ __ ] up while the show was going on. yeah I guess he I he'd just been going. for I guess maybe a bender we had a. couple days off I think in a certain. city and dude was just gone I guess he. just oh got into it said [ __ ] it he just.

hit the [ __ ] it button I was like man. [ __ ] all this [ __ ] I don't. care yeah that's a danger right because. you just trust in this dude and it's not. like you're going to drug test him every. day no he's a driver you trust him he's. a professional yeah he's had he's got a. resume people have recommended him for. you know years and years and years he. does his job you do your job how you. doing Frank I'm G sit down the bus yeah. meanwhile Frank is just. we didn't. [Music].

we Frank is on coke. tequila yeah I've been at the hotel. lobby bar just going after it just all. day long wow yeah shows up like hey. ride's here oh boy he's like I got this. yeah I got this we just met him I guess. at the wrong time yeah you could have. caught him a month earlier everything. would have been fine been. cool yeah. a balancing act for a guy like Frank but. I you know I think about those those.

those truck drivers man and you know bus. drivers drive at all funky weird times. at night you know it's a lonely life. yeah absolutely it's a lonely life if. you have a family too you're sad sure. your family's at home it's 12 hours of. driving to get back there mhm and then. you're only there for a little while you. got to go back again yeah man that's. what kind of has been my problem with. touring the way we've been touring is. being gone yeah multiple.

times for long periods of time during. the year I only did that once I only did. the the the month Thing Once Me and. Charlie Murphy and John hefron we did. this Bud Light real Mana Comedy Tour. once mhm well we did 22 dates in 30 days. and we were just out basically every. night wake up in a hotel room where am I. where am I I forgot where I am and after. that I was like I'm never doing that. again I like Tom sigura that crazy [ __ ]. he'll do like 60 dates in a row he'll be.

gone for two months where he has a show. almost every night yeah and he's just. going all over the place that his name. the name of his tour was I'm coming. everywhere brilliant. brilliant brilliant brilliant but you. know that's what he was doing yeah. literally everywhere yeah everywhere. everywhere that's I mean I get that we I. would love to do just weekend fly dates.

do stuff like that but I got a whole. band and production and my band's. getting bigger and so you know it's like. I I've got to do it but I've decided. this time I'm just going to bring my. family with me just yeah you know have. him grow up out on the road instead of. you did that for a while right you took. your son when you were were you in. Europe yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I took. him out there that's got to be a great. experience for him yeah it was great it. was great for him um that little. [ __ ] just he didn't want to play. guitar though until he s saw slash I. think I told you he's like man yeah but.

uh yeah so I think I'd I'd rather have. them come out and hang with me this time. yeah that's safer it's like more fun you. don't you don't get as sad and lonely. and they don't feel weird and for them. it's an experience like wow I get to see. what Dad's doing this is crazy yeah. instead of just like FaceTiming them. right yeah you know and picking up weird. lingo from their funky ass friends at. school what the [ __ ] did you just say to. me yeah did you just call me.

bruh n you're coming with me yeah my kid. started saying cap cap and no cap I was. like what what are you saying what does. that even mean do you know what that. where'd that come from I don't know I. don't know either times are changing. times are changing but yeah it's that's. a better way to to do it but like I it's. a different thing with a band you know. you got a whole band you got a bunch of. other people like you know the crazy. thing we were just talking I was talking. to Shane Gillis and he was talking about. his experience hosting Saturday Night. Live and he's like Saturday Night Live.

only pays you. $5,000 like you host it for a week it's. $5,000 we're like that's crazy U but. then I talked to uh Pat from The Black. Keys and he was telling me he's like you. want to hear it even crazier he was like. when you do a late night show it costs. you money because you got to fly. everybody out there you got a band you. got hotels you got this you got that. like it cost you $50,000 to do a late. night show yeah oh absolutely I just did. I just did that a couple.

times yeah catch me on such and such. yeah watch them shits buy the album uh. yeah it's it's it's funky like the whole. promo thing and and to do late night. television it's it's how effective is it. now debatable I I don't know uh I I. don't I don't know how effective it is. it's not what it used to I I don't think. so. I I mean from my experience.

the TV. promo like certain ways that that. were I guess the only way to move are. not as it's not moving the needle as. much maybe it's just for me as my. personal experience I think it's for. everybody but it's it's it's not really. moving like it used to but it is still.

important in some capacity I don't. understand it you. know but I'm a fan so I I like to go. play The Late Show with Letterman to go. play The Tonight Show it's like that's a. dream to me as a kid you know like I. love to be able to do that to be able to. step in that building and play Saturday. Night Live do whatever is it's like this. thing but it it's you know you're. investing something when you're not. really quite sure on what the return is. right but still you you're doing it.

because you just want to do it it's a. cool. milstone yeah yeah and also you know in. a record. business people aren't really you got to. be everywhere right you know it's and. and you got to do that and also be your. own promotion on social media which is a. wild thing you. know and people are leaning on Tik Tok I. mean I have meetings with folks.

about um you know what's what's the plan. what's the strategy what are we doing. well we got to get traction on Tik Tok. we got to do this so I caught myself a. couple times doing some goofy ass [ __ ]. for Tik Tok and I'm like I don't like. this. man like I don't this doesn't feel good. to me right feels hor it feels yeah it. feels horish it feels it's not in my. character it's not this feels fishy it. feels reachy it feel it feels gross and.

I'm and it's like well this is kind of. what's happening in the business and I'm. like well I don't know if this. is I you know and these are these debate. well this is where it's going I'm like. that's why I'm going to go be a [ __ ]. photographer you know it's like. it's it's we it's it doesn't feel. like it should feel to me right it.

doesn't feel authentic not at all yeah. and then and everything is you can't. film sideways anymore everything's got. to be vertical right for the algorithm. like what the [ __ ] are we talking about. right let's talk about some music I feel. like James Brown in it [ __ ] isn't it. weird the shape of the phone dictated. the way you hold it it's wild to me and. that's what we're talking about in music. business meetings that's funky CU. remember before Tik Tok became huge.

Andrew Schultz had that thing that he. was doing on Instagram like turn your. phone sideways so he was telling. everybody hey turn your phone sideways. they turn their phone sideways and then. he had it that. way simple simple right simple do that. yeah but now became all about the reels. and you got to be able to flip up from. one reel to the next so now it has to be. vertical and then it just keeps you. going it keeps you going it keeps you. going it keeps you going it keeps you. going what's going to happen if those. foldable things get adopted by everybody. cuz I was I got I went into a rabbit.

hole last night I got into foldables cuz. I have one I have a zold flip 4 whatever. the [ __ ] it is what is that never used. it it's a Samsung um foldable phone I. was like this could be great I'll be. watch YouTube videos much larger but. then you're carrying this brick around. your pockets and it folds it's weird the. whole thing is weird but eventually like. I know a lot of people that have adopted. those cuz they don't want to take a. laptop with them so they have to answer. an email open up the fold so they can. have a laptop set up basically in this.

10 in or 8 in thing yeah they got this. little thing and then folds it and it's. the size of a regular phone huh so what. are they going to do then with the with. the if that becomes like if Apple. releases a fold phone that's when it's. going to take off because right now it's. like it's only Android phones have that. now and you know that's only like a. certain percentage of the people. especially like people that are you know. like most of the social media platforms. are they're made better on iPhones like.

the apps are better they're optimized. for iPhones so if they start doing an. apple foldable phone I wonder if it'll. be a different thing you could hold yeah. now you have to hold it sideways because. everybody's doing sideways now I don't. that's beyond M oh but that thing is. though if a thing organically becomes. viral like if you have a song that you. put out and organically becomes viral. there's no better promotion there's. nothing better yeah absolutely cuz. everybody can share it I go oh check. this out I'll share it to friends.

they'll share it to their friends. they'll put it on Instagram they'll put. it here they'll put it there they put it. on Twitter and then next thing you. know yeah but you never know what that. you never know what it's going to be. right you can't you. neveras you have no idea yeah it's a. lottery it's crazy like some things hit. and you're like how and then other. things don't hit you're like how did we. miss this one you know know there's this. song that we play all the time um can't. play it anymore because of YouTube now. we're on YouTube this is dude Johnny.

Thunder he wrote this song I'm alive. from 1969 you heard this song bro we'll. cut it out we'll cut it out Jamie play. this song we'll cut this out so the. People YouTube just go go look up Johnny. Thunder I'm alive so this is a. 1969 song what the [ __ ] did they do to. Johnny Thunder how did that happen what. did they do to Johnny Thunder I've never. heard that how did he not become a super. Superstar that's everything right there. it's everything that's rock and roll. baby it's amazing and it's 1969 that is.

Rock Johnny's not with us anymore he's. gone cover song how did you find that uh. Brian Simpson Brian Simpson came into. the Green Room he like dud you got to. hear this [ __ ] song oh no it's just. written by someone else written by. someone else by Johnny Thunder yeah it's. also on a like Mountain Dew commercial. right now wow 1968 it was released it's. in a Mountain Dew commercial Mountain. Dew's been listening to this podcast. guarantee thank you for sharing that man. that was incredible how good is that. song that was I I that's like hearing.

Hendrick for the first time right right. like that's a superstar like that's not. just good that's a that changes your. feeling your skin gets Goosebumps yeah I. was going through it I was going through. a lot I heard it a thousand times I. still go through it it's incred it's. powerful that guy should have been a. superstar damn Johnny Thunder should. have been the [ __ ] man that's like my. new [ __ ] is this another one Tom Jones.

oh this is the other version of it is. that okay the other version sucks oh I'm. cool on this no disrespect but no. disrespect the I want that I want the. other version to be resonating the that. other version is fine if I didn't know. that Johnny Thunder existed but the. thing is if a guy can make a song like. that if Johnny Thunder can make a song. like I'm alive how is he that feel I. feel like you just got to get the right. songwriters the right people with him. and you got a [ __ ] Superstar how did.

they [ __ ] that up if I heard that once. if I was like a music producer or an. executive and I went to see this guy. live and I heard that I'd be like sign. him sign. him he's the one Mance he's the one that. dude's out there he's out there and no. one. knows no one knew and this is I forgot. we found this Bob Dylan quote before I. think what did he say all Bob Dylan who. heard Thunders I'm alive on radio was. asked for Rolling Stones John wner that.

year if he was impressed by anything in. the rock music scene and pointed to the. song never heard of it either huh well I. can't believe it everyone I've talked to. I've asked them and they've heard that. record it was one of the most powerful. records I've ever heard it's called I'm. Alive by Johnny Thunder well it was that. sentiment truly expressed that's the. most I can say if you heard the record. you'd know what I mean yeah meanwhile no. one [ __ ] knew oh Samsung used it in.

2015 Samsung using their advertisement. for the Galaxy S6 Edge in 2015 it was. also used in the soundtrack the 2018. film American. animals since the 1960s Thunders has. continued to tour internationally but. has regularly appeared on luxury cruise. ships wow in the Caribbean and elsewhere. he's dead though. right not ACC ah no he's still alive oh. I thought he wasn't around anymore Gil. Hamilton his name is Gil Hamilton he's.

91 years old wow okay okay I was under. the impression someone told me he wasn't. around. anymore bro let me tell you something. that don't make any sense that doesn't. make any sense that's that that's. like like a like a comic like Kennison. doing that thing about uh Starving. Children ad on television you ever see. that bit uhuh Kennison had this bit. about Starving Children on TV like. you're at home just making your food. sitting down in front of the TV and. Sally Struthers is on TV won't you.

please help yeah right you know and he. goes he goes instead of sending these. people food send them somethingone like. me someone's going to go there and goes. hey we just drove 5,000 miles where your. food is and we realized this the only. other recording that he might have that. or not there might be a few more but. it's doing a children's nursery rhyme he. was convinced to do like his first thing. as Johnny Thunder just a minute and. watch me now here we go. [Music].

that's interesting H all right yeah edit. that out don't hit quite the same no. that doesn't hit the same no I'm alive. was the song you just need to get the. right songs with the dude but if he. could do. that like that's you got magic it's in a. bottle now you got to figure out how to. what's the formula like get some writers. get some really good songwriters get sit. down with that dude and let him go yeah. yeah sometimes you just catch one.

sometimes you just catch a wave and you. just go man yeah and you can't you keep. trying to chase that thing and it's just. never the same that is the craziest. thing the one hit wonder that is the. that is the craziest thing cuz sometimes. those hits are bangers right yeah AB. just one absolutely something you just. catch it I feel like if Johnny Thunder. knew the right. people he would have been huge well he. needs a needed a better PR team or. something but even Bob Dylan and rolling. stone was talking about him and that. wasn't enough what year was that article.

you know it said that year 90s 60 or. I'll see if it find it was that year wow. oh it was that year yeah wow I don't. know was that a race. thing well HRI popped you know there was. James Brown popped like it just like. doesn't make sense that that guy is that. good that feels like that's Transcendent. music that transcends everything that. transcend culture like that's something. that everyone will listen to that's. maybe maybe it was a little ahead of its.

time how how could that because it just. it didn't it maybe but doesn't it sound. like a hit it sounds like a hit now God. damn it had to sound like a hit back. then but it probably sounded like what. the [ __ ] is that coming through the. radio I don't know man if you listen to. Peace Frog that's like the same time. with the doors you know there's like a. lot of wild funky music that comes from. back then you know did that hit radio at. the time oh yeah.

yeah yeah I don't know I don't know some. things are just a miss one of my. favorite artists who I think doesn't get. the light that they deserve is a guy. called Arthur Alexander and this guy was. like Americana songwriting Blues Country. all of it you know all never heard of. him I've never heard of him great songs. great songwriting cool funky voice you. know what's the song was she listen to. um this song called Anna uh there a song. called go with him um try go with him.

let's try that. one the same song I think the same song. just cut it out again yeah that's a that. song's a flex think about what he's. saying total Flex go with him go if he. loves you more hey I love you but if he. loves you more cool that's a flex that's. a by I know girls like that that's a. very needy girl and she's never going to. be happy and you have just have to say. hey whatever you want to do yeah go. ahead I think you're awesome whatever. you want to do I think you're awesome.

nasty though there's something some that. you just can't hold on to yeah you have. to recognize that it's true that's you. know that's that's the blues right there. yeah go ahead there's another one too uh. sui Otis I don't know if you know Shi. Otis no yeah man sui Otis was one of. them guys um he's like psychedelic Rock. Funk Soul dude kind of I found these. guys on the same trip my guy my buddy. Jay Mohler who was touring with me at. the time was listening to this stuff and. uh it's it was just like I said.

psychedelic ahead of its time I think. maybe. 609 70 71 he put out a record called. inspiration in Inspiration information. yeah and it's just like you know maybe a. chocolate couple. bowls sit back and like you're going. yeah um yeah great artist but I mean not. not as powerful. as Johnny Thunder like that I'm alive is.

That's a classic damn yeah man should. this you get this mostly just from other. artists that just tell you about stuff. yeah a lot yeah that's that's kind of. why I like to move around a little bit. is I'm still of old school hang out at. the bar yeah you know hey what are you. into I've been checking this out check. this out you know still go into record. stores and just go ask what do y'all. like what are y'all listening to like.

just turn me on to something I don't. care so they'll be like hey try this so. I'll try it and either I love it or I. don't you know but yeah I'm just curious. well those bar conversations are. underrated absolutely yeah they're the. best they can be the best or the. weirdest and yeah it's kind it's all of. it it's an it's an experience like. experence wow that's what you that's. what you had going on in there I'm I'm. sorry I asked my problem is I go to bars. and everybody wants to talk to me about.

conspiracies they want to Corner me yeah. tell me about the government I bet I bet. how do you do you shake out of it or you. sometimes just get in yeah just jump in. with them oh yeah let's go what do you. think they're doing how come Trump. didn't release the Kennedy assassination. files that's the big one for me yeah I I. got a couple people around me who get in. deep with that and I I just have to my. brain hurts I have to get out that one's.

crazy smoke break for me they killed the. president absolutely and they got away. with it yeah and one of the guys that. probably killed him was on the warrant. commission Alan Dulles I is probably one. of the guys involved in the whole. conspiracy there's so many people. involved in that conspiracy they wanted. him gone I see I I can't I don't follow. that I you don't want to don't do it. yeah that's probably one of those things. is. golf or yeah you know yeah like it's. worse because it affects everything in.

the world and you realize like that the. world is run by. Psychopaths yeah I don't know if I want. to know all of it. well you know Pro it's like a balancing. act should probably know a little bit of. course just so you don't get sucked into. the [ __ ] right right absolutely I. mean I I I like I said I got folks. around me who keep me kind of in the. loop a little bit but it's like you need. a dedicated conspiracy analyst just one.

it can't come from it's just one source. just one dude is just scouring the. internet all right you know all right. yeah well if you find somebody send them. my Jones I'll send them your. number just call him up and just let him. go for a while this what's going on Gary. this is a very scary time yeah yeah you. uh if you if you do go too far down that. rabbit hole though that is no end to. that hole whole goes to the beginning of. civilization that's what's terrible. absolutely you know the idea of what.

human history really is versus what. human history what actually happened and. what actually motivated all the things. that happened it's [ __ ] terrifying. well yeah I heard what you was talking. about a few pods ago about you know the. real history of and yeah kind of going. deep into that I mean I it was just it. kind of blew my mind I was like okay. uh that's there's things that you've. I've heard about but never really gone.

deep into or done research on you don't. want to yeah don't go down just bar. Talk's fine let someone spit it at you. at a bar you go home a little freaked. out yeah you get too deep into it it's. just it'll ruin your life yeah I I. remember being a kid in bars um I was. there's a few guys in particular who I. don't know why they found that talking. to me about this stuff stuff was the. thing I guess they were trying to get. the message to the youth but I remember. in these Smoky bars and going up back or. standing out front and these guys.

telling me about all kinds of crazy you. know things that i' never heard of and. you know they're coming after you or. they're doing this and such and such. they did this and I'm like I'm 15 like I. have to get up and turn in a school. project tomorrow you I don't know what. the [ __ ] you talking what you do at a. bar at 15 I was playing shows really at. 15 yeah I was playing shows when did you. first start playing live uh 98 I was 14. wow yeah how did that happen um well I I.

was in a boy band with my buddy Robbie. we were going to be R&B Superstars we. thought then he moved to France my. friend Eve uh was playing. guitar we did a talent show in eth grade. Juan like you know 25 bucks and we were. kind of hooked went to a blues bar for. her 15th birthday. played at a blues jam like an open mic. you know and they invited us back and we. just kept going I started booking gigs.

pretty soon after as a teenager as like. this Duo like the Gary and Eve show and. I was like me and this girl I playing. Blues wow yeah so 14 yeah 14 wow what do. you have to be Blues about when you're. 14 uh my. girlfriend uh left me for the Lifeguard. that she was working with during the. summer named.

Raul yeah that was my first like huh all. right ain't it crazy that we dismiss the. pain of the youth but the breakups when. you're 14 are the hardest ones you ever. experienced in your life yeah you don't. know what to do you have no idea what. this is yeah all a sudden your world's. gone right it all ended and everybody in. your world knows that your world is gone. yeah you know walking through the. hallways you know look at that sad. [ __ ] oh she's with Mike now yeah.

yeah and your boys are telling you man. we we just got such and such you know. tongue kissing over there by the gym. right you just got to sit and like take. that math test go through. it meanwhile she don't feel nothing. nothing at all she's gone out of there. bye yeah out of. there I to be withy anymore bye that's. it that's. it n but somebody told me when I was a.

kid you know to what do you know about. singing about the blues and you really. don't know anything you know uh or at. least I I I didn't. um when it came. to just how complex people are how big. the world is right you know certain. struggles like your little [ __ ]. doesn't really mean anything it doesn't. carry any weight compared to this. compared to that right you know um but. yeah man that still hurts man yeah that.

still. hurts people take their life they take. their life and they get broken up with. at 14 15 years old they take their life. that's true that happens that's true. crazy your whole life's ahead of you. it's such a mistake we definitely lost a. couple at a young age because of just. emotionally being broken yeah especially. if you're already fragile sure you know. maybe this is the only thing that you. ever had in life that gave you happiness. was his girlfriend man yeah that's a lot. of people like they were depressed and.

the only thing that gave them happiness. is the love of another person and you. thought you were going to be with that. girl forever forever right this is it. we're going to have kids we're going to. be together forever nope six months. later she's tongue kissing behind the. barn some other dude's fingering her. no no and she likes it she likes it she. loves it she's so excited she doesn't. think about you at all not at all God. damn it not one bit get over it Mike.

yeah for. sure you're alone in your room listening. to sad songs in the fetal position just. curled up sad and [ __ ] but if you can. come out on the other end of that you'll. understand and then the next time it's a. little easier the next time it's a. little easier and then you get it yeah. you know and then you write a song like. that like if he loves you more go. ahead cuz there's some ladies that you.

will run into in this life that you are. never going to hold on to Abol if you. can't accept that I mean maybe you can. 10 years from now maybe they'll change. and you'll change and you'll meet up and. it'll be better but right now she's on a. path and that you got to let her go mhm. you know I love you you're great but if. he loves you more tata for now tata for. now. [Laughter]. enjoy it and that's a flex that song's a. flex it kind of is yeah if he loves you.

more go ahead uhhuh huh yeah it's a good. Flex too because they don't know what to. do with that one like oh my God they. don't how did he say that if he he said. if he loved me more I could just go with. you shook and then that guy's at home. the guy the new guy's like that bad. [ __ ] I can't believe that's what. he said to her he has her forever now. yeah and now he feels stuck yeah yeah. because eventually this newness that. comes from this new relationship with. the guy who loves her. more it's going to fade into like why.

are you always leaving your [ __ ] laying. around and how come you're always late. and you know you said you were going to. call 5: you didn't call till 6:30 what. happened what's this what's that let me. check your phone and then next thing you. know she's thinking about that dude who. said look if he loves you more I love. you though and then she calls him mhm. what are you doing nothing great to hear. hear your. voice you know where I'm. at you know what it is you know I still.

love you yeah but you know some dudes. could have used that advice like if he. could give that advice to a lot that's a. strong move in certain circumstances to. preserve your sanity mhm you know. absolutely cuz just because some people. are fun doesn't mean you're supposed to. be with them forever that part is very. important very important just because. you have a good time with someone. doesn't mean they should be your one and. only cuz that that might ruin everything. absolutely I agree we all know dudes.

who've. got just hitched to the wrong Caboose. and they lost everything they their life. fell apart and a big part of it is the. complex interaction between two people. and some people just you the the the. combination of you and them is not good. absolutely and it'll ruin everything I I. agree I had. those you know it's like this is fun. it's a lot of fun but that's it this is.

dangerous. yeah yeah but the dangerous ones are. sometimes the most fun unfortunately for. a short amount of time but you don't. want them raising your kids not at. all not at all. no. yeah if he loves you. more tata for. now out of here this thing is falling. apart cigar this is a real one man this. is from Havana yeah it is you can.

tell yeah buddy mine I went to London. well actually my tour manager Daniel we. were hanging in London I had a few days. off to just. hang started hanging in the cigar. lounges and uh yeah I've been kind of. hooked ever since it's one of those few. places like a barber shop or like a bar. where guys can get together and just. talk yeah absolutely sit around shoot. the [ __ ] smoke a stogy mhm talk some. [ __ ] have some laughs MH it's.

fun yeah so it's kind of been. my my new thing I'm trying to get off. these cigarettes too if I'm being honest. yeah yeah man I got to do it got to do. it you don't want to die that way it's. just a sad I I I said I would never. smoke and and then I saw speaking of. heartbreak blue man I was sitting during. South by Southwest pissed off all these. [ __ ] in town and I saw this.

girl that I was you know this was into. and she was hand inand with some other. dude walking down the street having a. good old time and this person I was. sitting next to I was like give me one. of them. smokes next thing you know next thing I. know here I am yeah it gives you a wild. head rush though yeah it is the tingly. feeling fingers and toes and stuff the. excitement of your central nerv nervous. system the brain gets fired up for from. a cigarette yeah abely different than. any other form of nicotine like.

different than cigars different than. zins different than anything well it's. not just tobacco yeah but even if it is. it's like a one of those natural Spirits. is that what they're called American. Spirits yeah it's just tobacco but even. those but if you get like Menthol or. something like that it's. like the [ __ ] is happening here but yeah. I got to quit that [ __ ] so how many you. smoking. uh I I I only really do if I'm having a.

conversation before a show that I don't. want to have oh really so it's like an. anxiety thing yeah like before like TV. or before something like that that's not. too bad no it used to be maybe a half a. day a half a pack a day nothing nothing. crazy but I I use tobacco and roll them. up in my herbs yeah so I get my tobacco. that way but there was a while where I. was doing like a pack a day and. sometimes maybe more just you know.

stress I think you know getting in this. entertainment business and eyes on you. and you know pressure and all that type. of [ __ ] it's just like a nervous thing. to just yeah remind myself to just. breathe you know like take a moment and. just like you know chill out also there. some something about the cigarette that. gives you like some weird relief it's. just like. yeah that Head Rush thing that you get. out of it is like a weird little Escape. valve like a release valve.

just right yeah when I don't have them. though I don't really miss him so that's. kind of good that's very good yeah I got. into um I got into blunts from Charlie. Charlie Murphy when I was on that tour. with him yeah cuz he would only roll. Blunts and you the com he's like it's. the combination of the nicotine and the. weed I was like oh my God he's right it. is good it's a better combination it's. good that's a good combination like. pre-show combination there's nothing. like a blunt.

mhm yeah I'm I'm right there with you. yeah I'm right there with you but a. blunt and some music let's go. man we've been getting hyped up. to uh stro Elliott does it for us every. time he's a member of The Roots crew a. legendary Roots crew and he puts out. these albums man yeah get in there he uh. he puts out these albums where mashes. up uh like old school music and like his. big fat ass funky beats and sub sounds.

and stuff and that's been the stuff that. we listen to Backstage that's our Hype. music uh do you have a hype. soundtrack um yeah we we did for a while. it goes anywhere. from I guess Rolling Stones to Shaka. Khan Shaka Khan yeah wow to uh. yeah like stro Elliott to um Anderson. pack you know so it's kind of all over.

the. place kind of get everybody who's got. their certain types of music in the mood. and you know keep the crowd hype and. keep them interested you know yeah stuff. like that but uh John de backstage he's. the guy with John de on Keys he's part. of the kill Tony Band he plays on the. road with me he uh he's always got the. Bluetooth speaker he's always jamming. something unapologetically it doesn't. matter like who's how close we are to. anybody he's like biggie loud as [ __ ].

you know doesn't walk into the stage. through the office at the you know at. the venue um but. yeah we we have a good time back there. but there's something about that like. walking with the music walking into a. place bringing the music with. you yeah absolutely it's I think that's. the Buffalo New York and him though too. you know big boom box Unapologetic you. know Tim's on New York Hat don't give a.

[ __ ] uh but yeah what do y'all listen to. Backstage well when we do Arenas I. always make a point to walk into I'm. your Boogeyman H Casey in the Sunshine. Band I'm your. Boogeyman that's what I am like when. we're getting ready to do a show when we. walk into the arena it's always I'm your. Boogeyman that's your walk- on yeah song. yeah nice and if we're getting a police. escort to The Venue it's protect your. neck it's always protect your neck.

that's a flex yeah that's what's up. man uh what's that feel like I've only. had like a police. escort opening the Rolling. Stones and I was like damn this is so. tight it's bizarre cuz you're you're. driving through a crowd that's there to. see you. yeah the first time I ever realized what. was going on was I was with Ian Edwards. and we were doing a show in Dallas at an.

arena and this is like one of the first. Arenas we did and uh as we're driving I. go what is all this [ __ ] traffic this. is ridiculous we got to be there in half. an hour and then I go oh they're here. for us this is our traffic and then we. started laughing like this is wild wow. this is our traffic y'all did that yeah. we pulled up to the V I'm like this is. bananas it's got to be cool feeling. though it's pretty wild so the police. escort is to try to get you through that.

of course you get swarmed or miss the. show or miss the show yeah but there's. just so many people it's just when you. it's just something about doing shows. with that many people it's it's a. totally different experience it's so. alive it's so electric you know. yeah but the the music like having a a. green room playlist I learned from Dave. Dave used to come to The Comedy Store. and he he he had two boom boxes and you. have them synced and he put one on one.

end of the bar one on the other end of. the bar he had ones that had like LED. lights they glow and Flash and [ __ ] Dave. brought the party yeah yeah and uh he. was like this is my socializing so I. always just have music with me. everywhere I'm like that's the way to do. it yeah cuz we were just hang out in the. green room and just talk but talking. with music going on is way better. absolutely yeah. that's right when I saw Dave at the um. at the. Moody uh Center.

recently he had the glow lights going on. the on the Bluetooth speaker like the. whole Vibes going uh yeah he puts uh red. light bulbs in his green room right he. go in his green room it's not like. bright white light like flooding light. it's like the soft cool like Speak Easy. Vibe I respect that man it sets up the. vibe it brings the club energy to like a. [ __ ] Arena that's you know it's he. gets it yeah absolutely yeah he set it.

up right it's that's the way to do it. it's the way to do it and if you're. touring a lot I saw that with Tommy Lee. once too I went back stage back there's. I got a story back my friend John R was. a Tommy Lee security guard John R's big. giant dude and uh he goes hey man can. you meet Tommy Tommy wants to talk to. you about something like okay so I go go. to the show catch the show meet Tommy. and Tommy wants to fight Kid. Rock Tommy's like I want someone to. train me to fight Kid Rock I was like.

what what are you talking about yeah. yeah yeah yeah cuz they were both just. squabbling over Pamela Anderson all. right so he wanted to fight Kid Rock So. he was like seriously coming to me to. ask me like how he could get a fight set. up with Kid Rock and he wanted to get. trainers and all these different things. involved Happ. I wanted to tell him I think Kid Rock. will [ __ ] you. up Kid Rock is one of those wild Detroit.

white boys you don't want to [ __ ] with. Kid Rock I absolutely would have to. agree you don't want none of that n no. listen to me Tommy that's a mean dude. that's the dude that shot up Bud Light. and cost him $26. billion he shot the [ __ ] out of that. beard didn't he he went crazy he C so. much money they they would have never. lost that amount of money if Kid Rock. didn't shoot that beer man that just. watching those bull every time those.

bullets hit that beer that was like a. billion. dollars I don't know how many times I. watched that on repeat that was good. yeah but that's what I'm saying you. don't want none of that Tommy nah just. go stay away from that dude just sit. down just sit down just just if he loves. you more than. me tata for now just Arthur Alex that. [ __ ] big dog yeah learn how to just let. it go again same thing some gals you.

never really have them you just got to. accept it enjoy your time enjoy your. time with them. exactly but don't go having a cage fight. with K brck in front of the world. that's what's up with everybody want to. fight in. public what is up with that it does seem. silly right well I think some people is. just like they don't have any money and. someone comes along and says hey you. want to do a celebrity boxing match. you're like all right you know they're.

going to pay you a million dollars now. now you got money so you're just like. I'll just do anything because you don't. have nothing going on so there's people. like that remember didn't Aaron Carter. fight Lamar. odm oh I believe so Lamar odm's like 10. feet tall yeah Aaron Carter looks like. he had never worked out a day in his. life and he's been living on a steady. diet of pills yeah yeah yeah that just. he's not with us anymore right no no no.

RP yeah that's that's the thing if you. get famous when you're young good luck. good luck good luck man nobody there's. like three people that have ever gone. through being famous when they're young. and not been. crazy yeah I I I don't uh I don't. understand that uh. I don't understand it's just it's. [ __ ] sad man it's you it's Rob.

childhood for other people's. entertainment it seems like when you're. when you're a kid watching other kids on. TV it seems like a good time right you. know it seems like oh yeah I want to do. that that'd be. amazing and so it's been it's been kind. of strange to. watch these uh young folk F kind of go. through it well the ultimate is Michael. Jackson That's the ultimate mean that's. the ultimate that is the the greatest.

worst story ever told that when you see. young Michael Jackson when he was with. the Jackson 5 when he did like ABC and. they were doing that stuff on TV and. he's dancing and singing he's the lead. and he's the little kid that right there. killing the best oh my God this clip in. particular is the one that got me into. wanting to be a musician in the Ed. Sullivan Show and how old is he then I. don't know 10 maybe 11.

69 jeez. 1969 oh my God so good oh my God he was. so good and he was so little and then he. became so crazy because he just never. had a real life yeah I yeah that that's. sad to see it's crazy but it's just that. it's that old expression the star that. shines twice as bright last half as.

long you know I mean it's just like and. then that in that circumstance to be to. have that much talent and that much. success and that much love when you're a. baby he's a little baby there he's 11 he. just turned 11 I couldn't imagine he's a. little tiny little fella he's up there. just bolting out beautiful. songs and then the rest of his life is. just. chaos I didn't realize that I think.

uh as a kid I was such a huge Michael. Jackson fan probably like crazy kiss. fans that I didn't realize everything. that. was happening nobody knew you know. nobody knew back then right I mean back. then there's no internet right and so. like if it wasn't Barbara Walters didn't. talk to him about like why do you have. so many kids over your house like there. would be no conversation no one would. know right yeah yeah it's just.

a I don't what do you think that is I. mean like what is it like is there. a just like a sense. of like powerlessness not having control. there's a bunch of factors you never. face real adversity like a normal person. does you're never not loved yeah and I. think people have to learn how to you. learn how to get people to like you by. you realize like oh if I'm a nicer. person it feels better for me it feels. better for them it's good for everybody. and then one time I wasn't nice and then.

I felt bad I went home I got to think. this through and now people don't like. me [ __ ] I'm sorry and then you get. better and it's like a process of. learning how to interact with human. beings that's completely subverted by. Fame yeah where all you don't ever have. to prove yourself you you not only do. you not have to prove yourself you're. loved above and beyond a regular person. so you're treated like you're like a god. like royalty as a child huh and everyone.

around you is kissing your ass and. everyone around you is giving you advice. and everyone around you is trying to. take your. money you know then you've got women and. you've got networks and you got you know. that guy the colonel that was with Elvis. you know man those kind of characters. running your life behind the scenes and. oh Elis is another case too much Fame. nobody had navigated those waters before. it's too much I remember trying uh.

being young and um people trying to. approach me for deals and stuff and and. uh I was always weary of those folks. just because of the stories that I heard. and uh my mom is was my manager for the. longest time was you know helping me. with printing out CDs and you know doing. a real ground. work family my little sister was boxing. CDs. and and uh helping fold t-shirts and do.

all that it was a real family thing and. folks started coming around and saying. hey you know we could help you with this. we could help you with this and I was. just always like no no no no I've heard. so many stories of of that so I was. really scared of the the business you. know and and wanting to even pursue it. or the idea of fame or any of that I was. just like nah just I don't I don't I. don't want to deal with that whatever. comes with that I don't think is really. me so I'm kind of fortunate that I. didn't really get to I didn't really.

move around in that kind of scene until. I was. 27 how old were you in like numb how old. was that I was I was mid 20s 25 26 27. that had to be when things started. getting weird right like right likes big. city yeah yeah yeah all that but I was a. grown person so I'd had experiences. where you know yeah but it yeah so yeah. I think if had that happened to me any. earlier it would have been a little bit.

different oh yeah you know but uh yeah. it was it was strange you know. uh just how life can kind of flip mhm. people's perception and perspective of. you kind of flips the whole world Chang. people how like people you know kind of. look at you different and it's like yeah. whoa that's weird that's when it gets. weird like people have known you for. years now they get nervous around you. like why are you nervous around me man. yeah right it's like hey yo dog chill. like what's up yeah I'm the same dude.

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah remember you. crashed in my house six months ago like. well I think don't you think that's why. I like a lot of famous people hang. around with other famous people because. they're like these are the only people. that are going to understand what it's. like to be weird yeah yeah yeah yeah I. was talking to Tony the other day and he. was like man you need to get out more I. was like I know. he's like you need you need to be with. the folks who get it like yeah I know. I've just been a Hermit in this studio.

trying to get it right but yeah oh dude. CM down to the Mothership any night you. want come hang out I definitely I'm. definitely going to it's a great hang I. know that Green Room cleans the soul I. yeah I missed you a couple times I've. been there but yeah it's definitely a. Vibe I uh yeah I have a good time every. time I'm down there but yeah it's it's. true you got to be able to hang around. like minded folks who you know kind of. the weirdos there's a different. perspective yeah yeah yeah you got to be. around out the weirdos and it also it's.

like you feel like you're okay like oh. I'm not that [ __ ] up I'm just like. these people this is a different kind of. person yeah yeah yeah like they get it. right all my friends know me they get it. they get we're all just different kinds. of weirdos absolutely but what it's a. special kind of weirdo weirdo who makes. stuff right yeah weirdo is always. creating things and then people go to. see those things things you they listen. to those things they hear those things. they watch those things that's it's a. different life completely you can't hang. out with accountants they're not going.

to get it that's different it's funny. like going to kids birthday parties yes. it's like um yes I don't know what I. can't say here it's like I I never know. what parents are going to ask me about. you know cuz like too many parents. listen to the podcast kids real weird. right they want to talk to me about. guests and conspiracies and [ __ ] and. some parents like I took I. too this blowing out birthday. candles there's a lot of dads want to.

talk about UFC which is easy yeah yeah. yeah that's easy yeah that's cool hey. man that was really cool when everything. was shut down to go to the UFC with you. guys that was F and hang out I never I. realized. how intense that was without the crowd. yeah it's wild in the building yeah like. hearing somebody get kicked in the face. in a quiet room that this [ __ ] hits. different it hits different it's my. favorite way to see it to this day I. like to see fights at the Apex the Apex.

in Vegas like where we went it's just. like there's no crowd man it's. incredible it was cool and then when we. went down there everything was totally. shut down so they were like world class. fights like right now they do at the. Apex still have world class fights but a. lot of times it's like guys on the come. up guys who are making their way through. the rankings and they'll have like. Contender fights and good fights m but. there was a world championship fights in. that Arena like Francis andano beat. Stipe miic in that Arena I was there for. that yeah that was crazy yeah when you.

see Francis hammerfist an unconscious. man after he knocks him out cold and. then [ __ ] drops a bomb on him just. walking around the cage like woo and. there's no one there but us yeah that. there's like 20 people in there. incredible it was amazing hearing the. coaches talking back and forth the. language all that kind of stuff was like. what a weird time too right even when. you went to restaurants like we're in a. restaurant yeah we're sitting down. inside this is crazy you know through. the mask on we still to walk in with.

masks on and then take it off and you. sat down it was so stupid long as you. sit down you can take your mask off oh. when you go to the bathroom you got to. put your mask back on oh okay okay. whatever I'm just happy to be out yeah. hell yeah me too yeah that um the covid. bubble days were strange but yeah I'm so. happy the UFC did that they kept the. sport alive yeah. are y'all doing the um the sphere out. there yeah they're doing an event at the. sphere for Mexican Independence Day.

amazing have you been out there for that. I have not I've seen it I've drove by it. it's incredible I mean they have it look. like the Earth they have it look like. space they put designs on it the whole. outside is a giant screen it's an. incredible building that's wild and. they're going to make a show that uses. the sphere Dana said he's only going to. do it once going to do one show there. cuz is too crazy but he wants to do a. show there just cuz it scares the [ __ ]. out of him because it's so challenging. well of course that's kind of he just. he's not he has to but you imagine.

watching highlights on the ceiling that. be crazy the ceiling is filled with a. giant screen that shows you replays that. would be incredible yeah that's I can't. even imagine because it's blown my mind. when I see um video of the band You2. yeah in there yeah like it looks crazy. on your little phone screen I couldn't. imagine what that was like being bur. Cher went and saw YouTube there you and. he said it was insane he said it was. insane it's like it's the greatest show. I've ever seen in my life I was crying. because it's like accentuated by the.

building itself it's the only time where. a building makes the experience way. better like way crazier what was a who. came up with that idea like what what. the hell good question like who even. Super Rich. dudes because it cost some insane amount. of money how much does this Spar cost to. run it's something bananas like just for. one night yeah just for one night like. every year it's like it's [ __ ]. hundreds of millions of dollars just to. run. it I wonder what the I I wonder what the. what else is going to be in there just.

music I guess I guess you could have the. rodeo you could have whatever you want. in there the rodeo would be [ __ ] nuts. that would be wild that would be wild. the rodeo with all the highlights on the. screens but to be able to watch fights. like that have the highlights on the. ceiling that's probably the best way to. do it if they could keep doing it that. way I mean if if it works and then they. decide you know what [ __ ] it we're going. to keep doing shows here I want to go to. one yeah I I want to go too just to see. yeah the one that's on Mexican when is. that one Jamie September I think right.

now yeah that's going to be nuts that is. that is going to be a Nutty experience I. think that's September 16 right am I. correct sounds. right okay hey September 16th you hear. that touring Squad let's end up let's. end up in Vegas that night Up in Vegas. the night off yeah how long are you. touring now are you going to are you. from here when the album's out are you. going to just go uh so we're doing we're. doing a US leg just kind of jump kick.

things off in May and then we're going. to do. Europe um August September I think I try. not to look um but I'm sure dates will. fill up in between that's you know once. it starts going it starts. going um but uh yeah just just for now. we're going to be doing the states. May uh we're doing some stuff with uh. Eric Clapton down in South America oh. wow and that's always cool yeah that's I.

mean that's a lot of people coming out. to you know 60,000 oh wow 70,000 folks. you wow so we're going to get to jump in. front of that and make some noise for a. little bit bro they came after era. clapped in hard during the pandemic oh. yeah they came after him because he said. that he got injured by the vaccine yeah. and they came after him hard how dare. you how dare you you piece of [ __ ] right. they tried to find every terrible thing. he's ever said his entire life take out.

of context stick it in front of. everybody folks came after me it's like. what do you think about Clapton doing. that well the crazy thing was he got. injured by the vaccine and they were mad. that he was and it was like a. coordinated effort to attack him cuz he. was going to cause vaccine hesitancy by. telling the truth right now we all know. it's the truth so now no one's mad at. him anymore for that but it was like. during that time they were trying to. destroy Eric. Clapton yeah if you brought anything you.

said anything you kind of out of there. yeah at that time yeah that must have. been wild for Eric cuz his whole life he. was. beloved I mean he was he was a icon yeah. I mean he still is yeah he still is but. to have that experience happen like all. of a sudden he's attacked like the LA. Times you know and all these different. newspapers were just coming for him I. was like this is crazy to see he's. telling you he got injured by. experimental medication that the whole. world is being forced to take you don't.

think you should listen to. him yeah I'm yeah. that yeah looking back it seems. absolutely absurd it does that that. somebody's telling you that like the. truth. about this thing that's affecting whole. world and they go nope nope nope nope no. he's a piece of [ __ ] antivaxer yeah and. look at this and you did this and you. did this let's pull this up what' you.

say in 76 yeah man yeah wild time wild. times. [ __ ] but we got through it yeah we did I. don't think it'll ever happen again you. I think it'll be too wise to it now yeah. there's too many people that push back. now that that let it happen back then. cuz they believed it yeah they thought. two weeks to stop the spread that' be. good they thought all those things were. going to be good they believed the World. Health Organization they believed the. CDC they believed everybody they. believed in masks they believed in. Social distancing they believed in all. that [ __ ] we turned out to be [ __ ].

and now people know it's [ __ ] yeah. absolutely I remember going to Australia. twice we had to quarantine. twice sit up there Australia was nuts. police escorts I was going there to do a. film I went there to do Elvis and I was. like um the put us police escort to the. hotel like. uh military escort up to the hotel room. and you just there they give you like. milk. sandwiches juice some fruits like every.

day or whatever can't go nowhere no you. couldn't go anywhere and if you were to. step out to like to put your trash. outside like a military guard or police. officer would be there like with the. weapon like turn the corner like just. checking on you I was like yo what the. [ __ ] man how crazy is that yeah for two. weeks you had to be there how crazy is. that and you weren't even sick wasn't. sick which is crazy nothing and just 40. floors up in some crazy Hotel you can't. go anywhere for two weeks the military.

making sure you don't leave your room. yeah yeah that's what happens when. there's no. guns when people don't have guns that's. right would the only people that have. the guns is the Army and the and the. police and everybody else is unarmed and. people with the guns start pushing. people around arresting people for not. wearing a mask outside them throwing old. ladies to the ground and handcuffing. them. like nah that [ __ ] that [ __ ] has not. happened in Texas no Gary damn T that.

you said you said what [ __ ] yeah. shut the [ __ ] up but even in California. there was lines around the block at the. gun store it got sketchy mhm it got real. sketchy that was the eyeopener yeah for. so many people seeing lines at the gun. store for the first time like. yo this is getting real mhm this is. getting real I heard about that yeah it. was weird to see it in LA I drive by. Burbank in this gun shop that I know. [ __ ] giant ass line around the block.

people trying to buy a. gun yeah well I got them problems down. here no there's no problems down here no. there it is ID yep you go here's your. receipt exactly good luck sir what even. crazier is that I could just give you a. gun oh yeah if I have a gun I'm like. Gary take this gun that's your gun now. you don't have to do any paperwork no. nothing now you have my gun I I I kind. of really [ __ ] with Texas though a. little bit I love Texas once you feel.

that freedom and it's not just the gun. thing it's kind of everything once you. feel that freedom except abortions once. you feel that freedom you're just like. whoa this is how you're supposed to be. and then you go to California they don't. you have flavored Vapes they like what. what are you doing what are you doing I. don't understand why I don't understand. why that is they think it's going to. stop kids from sucking on Vapes if. they're not flavored so adults can't. have them adults can't have them you. can't get flavored zins in in California.

I went to a gas station to buy some zins. I'm like what flavors you got they go we. don't have any flavors like a what yeah. California doesn't allow you have. flavors because it attracts. kids you think the kids are going. they're going to Puff on the original. version anyway yeah what are you talking. about they're still smoking cigarettes. like that's so stupid wow that doesn't. do anything I don't get that that don't. make no damn sense to me it's communist. it's it's the government deciding what.

you can and can't do and doing it for. your own good and that's the slippery. slope of Communism they'll do that with. that next thing they'll do it with your. car next thing they'll do it with your. your consumption your carbon consumption. they try to get you to be on a carbon. consumption tax they try to get you to. be on some sort of an app that shows how. much carbon you're using anything they. can do to try to control you and they'll. do it under the guise of making it safer. for others just like they did during the. pandemic see how quickly they shifted.

from vaccines to climate change it was. just like it was a beautiful passing of. the ball it was like run with climate. change run with CO2 production run with. stop eating meat drive an electric car. run run with that right yeah that's true. that's one thing after another it's just. control the the the number one thing. about it is control and then all all. without a doubt there's a bunch of. people making money there's a bunch of. industries that are designed that.

function around this idea that you have. to do certain things and they're going. to profit immensely from you. complying yeah I mean you could kind of. see that in the way that the city. changed around here with the they shut. down certain spots mom and pop shots. spots kind of went and it's like all. right bullet get you out of here make. you comply a little. bit now you gone now Target makes more. money yeah yeah yeah here we go well. they they crushed la la is not it is a.

shadow of itself I always say that La is. like a girl used to date and she was. really cute and then you go see her now. and she's on meth and she works for the. cartel damn what happened damn that's. La you. know yeah it's I I I haven't spent too. much time out there I mean I only go out. there when I absolutely have to sad I. need to I was just in New York New York. looked kind of Euro now it's got all the. Cannabis shops up everywhere kind of.

comical it is a little bit it was so. illegal in New York for so long yeah you. had to get it like super lowkey yeah man. you could get busted there was. undercover cops selling people weed in. New York yeah New York was weird with. weed weird for the longest. time it seem it's it's not a problem at. all anymore no was really strange to be. there it's kind of like Amsterdam. looking mhm I'm kind of surprised that. it hasn't hit Texas yet I'm surprised. they haven't let legal weed here yet it.

seems so stupid to stop people from. doing something you know they're already. doing is not hurting anybody yeah uh. that's kind that's my only beef with. Texas at the moment yeah as far as that. goes well it's decriminalized air quotes. here so what does that mean nothing just. I just just let me pull up to a store. yeah get a receipt enjoy my day yeah. I'll pay taxes how about that right. you're missing out on billions of. dollars in tax revenue you dummies sure. cuz like in Colorado they were smart.

they said we'll tax it like 39% or. something crazy and everybody's like. okay no problem yeah go ahead do that. yeah absolutely because it's so cheap in. comparison to alcohol anyway it's it's a. beautifully run business in Colorado. they figured it out it's like going and. buying a pair of shoes but for the. longest time in Colorado they had employ. mercenaries they had to employ like. [ __ ] Blackwater type people to guard. the cash because they were the banks. wouldn't [ __ ] with them oh yeah so they.

weren't allowed to use credit cards so. at any point in time they had hundreds. of thousands if not millions of dollars. in cash around that's right and so they. had to like get a guy to take that cash. to the bank so they're basically like. like a scene from heat that's right I. remember going out to Venice Beach at a. certain point it was a little funky out. there well I used to go to this place. called the Englewood Wellness Center in. the 9s and uh that was when there was. medical weed in California and all you. have to do is go to a doctor go I got a. headache yeah go here you.

go oh you definitely need this medicine. they were trying to hand out those. things it wasn't hard to get a medical. license not at all and one of the only. dispensaries medical dispensary was in. Englewood so we'd go down the hood to. buy weed and then the dude that sold me. the weed got shot he got shot there like. a week after I was there two weeks after. I was there there oh no they robbed him. and shot him because you had to pay in. cash and they had cash laying around and. everybody was scoping it and they were.

watching they knew what was going on and. he would have given them the money too. that's right they just [ __ ] shot him. that's right yeah wild time that's I was. like okay time to go back to weed. dealers yeah mhm yeah yep homie hey man. you know like we used to yeah yeah the. the weed dealer thing is funny cuz you. then you get those sketchy people in. your life again those dudes that are. willing to sell weed like those are. those are always people that are just a. little. unbalanced yeah I've feel fortunate that.

you know folks I used to hook me up with. all these cute. girls that's amazing yeah how'd you get. that just being me. bro well that's a way better situation I. used to deal with a dude named Jake The. Snake well there you. Jake The Snake was my friend Eddie's. buddy in La that's how we get our weed. yeah but he was always a weird dude it. was always cool they're.

like cool hippie chicks that's perfect. yeah yeah that's perfect cool sit there. you know show you what they goty you can. try a couple different kinds yeah get on. their bike or whatever the [ __ ] can get. out of there. bye Sund dress flowing in the wind yep. yeah yeah yeah. [ __ ] sunflowers all over their outfit. yeah yeah so I didn't really deal with.

too many Shady characters but the. shadiest characters that I knew were the. [ __ ] that I actually really. knew that I grew up with and I was like. ah. yeah yeah I was warned about you. [ __ ] yeah when you have some. dudes that are shady when they're like. 14 just a little shady yeah and then by. the time they're like 22 they're pole. Shady oh yeah but you're still hanging. with them oh yeah I've seen a couple of. them there's this magazine around here I. don't know if it's still here it's. called mug. shots and you can see like whoever got.

arrested that day or that week I seen a. couple of folks I grew up with on the. cover and I was like. yep saw that coming yeah that pans out. yeah yeah but hopefully Texas will come. around and you know you can just kind of. do what you want to do with that yeah I. feel like. if Republicans just embraced that it. would be a lot better for everybody just. the people that don't want it they're. just ignorant they just don't understand. it's stupid it's a stupid thing to.

stop that's not being stopped yeah it's. not being stopped also you should. probably fund some studies find out why. some people go crazy let's find out. what's going on because everybody knows. one dude who smoked too much weed he. went. schizophrenic I yeah absolutely how many. you know I know one in particular he was. a great great friend of mine and uh yeah. kind of feel semi- responsible mhm cuz I. was kind. of he was this dude I known since I was.

in first grade we played basketball. together we did all this stuff together. and started rapping together started. playing music making beats together and. I think one puff too many and listening. to that Slim Shady Marshal matters. album got him bro yeah and yeah. yeah I know two dudes one dude seems to. have bounced back but one dude's gone. he's gone well actually no three dudes I. know one dude who bounced back too but.

one D the dude who I know who bounce. back he doesn't he doesn't [ __ ] around. at all anymore but at one point in time. he thought the government was listening. to everything he said he thought like. helicopters were flying over his house. he thought people were listening in the. walls he he was he was going nuts and. that's marijuana ones yeah yeah for him. it was and I knew him before that I knew. he was fine but he was just waking. baking every day it was every day he was. just getting obliterated he was getting. obliterated all day long and I think he. just fried normal life out of his brain.

oh yeah oh I've gotten like stoned to. the point of a panic attack but I've. always come back but when you come back. you feel better I feel a lot better hey. you feel like everything's going to be. okay yeah yeah some people don't come. back yeah absolutely yeah there's been. books written on it Alex Baron wrote a. book about it that's why I've never I've. never taken acid my dad told me a long. time ago an uncle of his or maybe took a.

some good acid and never came back from. it so I've always been spooked but I. mean I have no problem with uh. psilocybin but yeah psilocybin is more. manageable I think absolutely also acid. is being made in a bathtub by some. Grateful Dead fan soone like who's. making that where are are you how did. this get to me he looks just like Jerry. Garcia he's going for it just circular.

glasses on tinted lenses yeah yeah yeah. just selling you the good stuff yeah I. mean there's only a handful of people. supposedly in the country that know how. to make. acid how many people are trying. though yeah right that's the scary part. for me yeah it's like oh my buddy Billy. just. you know start you know got him a little. thing in the garage let's try it out. yeah well Ari was telling us about um. they had these uh tests that they would.

do these dudes were heavy parters and. they brought like tests with them so. they could test all the different drugs. like when you say heavy party like. experimental yeah trying trying to go. they were going they were going out. there so they were taking Molly and all. kinds of [ __ ] and so they did a test on. the acid they had and none of it was. acid all of it was masculine really yeah. yeah they were getting these tabs and. they thought these tabs were acid and. they tested there was Zero acid in it it. was just. masculine.

so how do. you how do you get away with that you. get away with it because people don't. have tests so you're just selling this. stuff that masculine and make you trip. you know you think you're on acid is it. the same type of deal I haven't done it. um but it's peyote right is I'm scared. of that too it's uh I had a friend of. mine that swears to God that he saw a. dude in a window in Manhattan when he. was on musculin and the dude was like. you know 400 yards away and he could.

listen to every word that guy was saying. so he could hear every word he was. saying huh when he was on masculine like. through glass and he just heard walls he. just was looking at the dude he could so. he could see him he was watching him and. he could hear him. talk he swears it he you know he's a. financial guy okay yeah he's not a he's. not a like a crazy hippie right he's a. guy that when he was in college he took. musculine in New York City and uh he was. looking out the window and there's a guy.

way far away he's looking at him through. the window his window and that guy's. window sounds of the city [ __ ] you. through all that watching that guy you. could hear him talk is it some. cross-dimensional type [ __ ] who knows. probably probably there's probably like. a frequency that you could tune into. that we're all tuned into all the time. sort of like when you know someone's. talking about you and then the phone. rings it's them right like you know. they're thinking about you or you know. like people dismiss that oh that's just. chance that's just luck maybe maybe or.

maybe when you're just thinking about. someone for no reason and then they call. you maybe there's some connection there. maybe there's something going on yeah I. I agree with that yeah I I I have. moments like that where I feel like it's. just that's the universe just univers. and just trying to get you back to where. you need to be yeah I think there's. something to that I think there's. something to fate there's some strange. element of it that seems to be true like. I think that uh Free Will is probably.

real there's some there's probably. issues with there there's choices you. make that determine how your life goes. for sure but there also seems to be like. some strange element of Fate every now. and then things come along and go oh my. God this is what I have to do this is. what I have to do that's what I'm. supposed to do absolutely and you you. might be resisted like God I don't want. to do this but party is like this is. what you're supposed to do you can't. shake it yeah you can't shake it it's. like the universe like hits you with. this frequency the signal that lets you. know this is the path you're supposed to.

take and some people are way better at. following that some people are really. good at following that feeling what's. your how how do you think you you. resonate on the scale of being good with. that or not I'm pretty [ __ ] good with. that yeah that's I'm pretty confident. with that good I pretty I pretty I know. yeah I'm pretty good I'm pretty good. with the recognizing Shady people I'm. pretty good pretty good not 100% but I'm. like I'm 95% I got you I'm pretty. [ __ ] good I'm pretty good knowing.

which path to go when to take a chance. when to just go you know like when I. moved out here I moved out here in the. middle of the Spotify deal and they were. like what the [ __ ] are you doing I was. like I'm telling you this is the place. to go I got this I'm just going to do. this this is the thing to do did you. already see what's happening now. happening no no no idea no no idea not a. chance I would even have imagined that. Austin would become like the comedy. scene that it is now I never thought. that I just wanted to exist in a place.

where people weren't [ __ ] with me and. then when I got out here and I realized. people weren't [ __ ] with me and then. Dave and I were doing those shows at. stubs that reignited my desire to do. comedy again then we started doing live. shows at the Vulcan and then Ron White. got fired up about it and I was like. okay we got people out here now and then. other Comics were moving here because. you couldn't do any shows in LA and they. see us doing shows out here and they. were like heyy man [ __ ] this I'm just. going to go and a bunch of them came and. we didn't even have a club then so then. I felt like okay I talk these dudes in a.

comeing here like now I have to just. like build it and then we just did it. but it was just all following instincts. it's like this is this is the path this. is what you're supposed to. do how long did you uh think over this. like move not very long no my my. instincts were to get out when I saw. those uh cop cars on fire on the 10 yeah. I was like okay I see where this is. going yeah uhuh you know I I got here.

just after the riots just after the. riots that's when or La rather uh I got. there in 94 just after the the riots the. Rodney King riots and it was weird like. the the city had just recovered so I. remembered and then I'd watched all. those videos of the chaos that happened. when the the police lose control of the. city and it just becomes Madness and I. was like oh got to get the [ __ ] out of. here like this and then but back then.

there was no defund the police talk in. La it was all defund the police defund. the police I'm like okay yeah that's you. know I was like yeah. um you know I'm I'm I'm kind I'm over. here yeah I was like nah we got to you. got to keep cops the [ __ ] are you. talking about I need to call the. [ __ ] cops what are we talking. about you cannot that that to me was.

like all right we we've lost sight. of can't everybody just do whatever they. want whenever they want all the time. have it be their way all the time they. go to there's got to be some order here. there has to be there has to be a line. yeah that it's important please. please because this is all I know yeah. you know if that goes away then what the. [ __ ] you got chaos and I don't want that. no I don't think anybody wants that just.

before. you that's a crazy statement yeah well. the wildest thing is having those people. now later call for more police like. since some of them got like there's this. one politician and she was like let me. be clear my goal is dismantle and defund. the police like yay and then recently. she got car jacked and Pistol whipped. and so she's got blood pouring out of. her head and she's like saying we have. to find these people and prosecute them.

to the fullest extent of the law with. what with no police cuz you defunded the. police like what who's going to go get. him are you going to go get him that guy. that pistol whipped you you going to go. find him and take his gun away and say. you are going to go in a cage now to. make the world safer no please do that. stupid right that's that that's that. part of the. police the important part yeah the part. that keeps you safe you [ __ ]. idiot this idealistic perspective that. so many people had just such virtue.

signaling [ __ ] you just don't even. know what you're saying yeah man I had. to get lo I had to get out of there man. I was lost in that [ __ ] for a while yeah. you hated La what's that you hated La. huh I've I've really hated La now I. didn't hate La I just couldn't I didn't. know how to do la and the the people. that I resonated with in La. was comedians I would just only hang at. the store yeah that was my social life.

was that spot and like another spot. where my buddy would give me like free. drinks and I could smoke cigars down in. the lounge that was it I wasn't I didn't. know how to really move around I didn't. understand how to mix and mingle In Like. A Music Space MH I knew how to hang with. like the weirdos like the cats who like. were just off and didn't take themselves. too seriously yeah you know so well I. remember very clearly when you moved. back here yeah cuz I remember you saying. oh man this is so much better this is. just what I like yeah I I remember I met.

uh remember I met Ron uh white or like I. was hanging with him and and uh you know. he's like yeah I'm going back to Texas. and spend more time in Texas and I. remember running into uh post Malone out. there and I was like what what's there. to do in LA he's like I don't know man. I'm getting the [ __ ] up out of here so. was like everybody that I was connecting. with at that certain time was like I'm. out too so yeah I was like let's just go. back to Texas you know and and do that.

yeah you talking about how great it was. to be back here and Ron talking about. how great it because Ron came first M. Ron was the guy cuz when he was out here. he was out here before the pandemic and. I was like you really love it there he's. like I [ __ ] love it I love it he goes. this is the best place easiest place to. fly out of yeah fly anywhere in the. country it's in the middle you know just. like it's like it's a great [ __ ] town. everybody's cool it really is it really. is man so uh Gary that guitar's just. sitting there huh that guitar's just.

sitting there all right well here we go. you need to bust that guitar out how. about if. you I'm going to teach you oh you going. to teach me hey this is for. you this is a guitar pck that's made. from mammoth ivory mammoth ivory yeah. that's from a mammoth that's from my. friend John Reeves really yeah he's got. a a place up in Alaska called the. Boneyard that that thing that you have. in your hand is probably 10,000 years. old at least and you want me to [ __ ].

yeah that's yours Str guitar or do I put. that's it's for no no no no no you play. with that I got another one here if you. break it I kep a second one here right. nice what should I play anything what do. you want to play what do you feel like. playing. [Music]. oh I don't know. man feel.

like I feel. like do you feel like playing new [ __ ]. or old. [ __ ] let's play some let's play some new. [ __ ] let's play some new [ __ ] play some. new [ __ ] I've never played this new [ __ ]. like. this with an acoustic a little backstory. on this guitar. I did an event uh for Joe Walsh U vets a. and he and his wife marjerie gifted me. this beautiful guitar and uh it's one of.

my favorites that play around with at. the. house should I tune this thing whatever. you want to do it right you tell me oh. man again this is what I love about. music I don't know what the [ __ ] is. going on you know what well I don't know. either we'll figure it out T it with. your phone well I got a there's a tuning.

app on my phone I can just use so that. way I don't have. to you know bring a box of stuff how. does it work just just hears the. note and it knows and like. a uh if you set it to standard tuning. it'll. get you right to where you need to be. and it's all just tension in the strings. tension in the strings will get you to. the note you want to be out. so um right now this one is the string.

is sharp so you got to release some. tension so the note goes. down see so you're trying to get it in. the. green ah. see uh. so it's reading the the Hertz the wave. frequency wow there you go too high or. too low and you try to match the.

perfect and that's how you explain it. like a professional well not quite just. trying to help no he actually went to. school for that yeah I didn't and that's. why I sound like an idiot talking about. it's crazy there's an app for that. though that's amazing yeah this is this. is one of my favorite things about. having a technology for this is I can. make music on this phone and transfer it. over to files on my big rig at the. studio and incorporate them into records. that I'm making wow you know.

so what a time yeah right as much as I. [ __ ] about it I use it all the. time so what a time to be alive yeah. what a time to be alive. indeed um a few. selfing start interrupted just it's self. Tunes Cheers Cheers one more time thanks. for having me dude pleasure good to hang. with you we're gonna get on that that. double date let's do it I'm I'm free.

Saturday night want to go Saturday night. yeah absolutely let's do it Saturday. night all right my wife's in town. finally beautiful let's go let's go so. many good places to go out here too man. I and yeah that's one thing that I. realized is I don't no [ __ ] I've just. been in the house and in the. studio so my time to come up and figure. out what's going on in the world. is is uh that ship has sailed my friend. until till the album drop day I'm going.

to sleep for like a good day and a half. turn my phone off and then what is album. drop day which day March 22nd oh that's. which is tomorrow tomorrow as you're. listen today as you're listening today. today oh yeah yeah here it is here we go. so cheers to that cheers to that I'm. just going to go ahead and down this. thing okay cuz uh that's how I feel. right. now woo no actually never mind I'm.

not so let's play some music let's play. some music car and then after this. you're going to learn an E chord. okay some new [ __ ] it's called habits. while I talk about Downing a glass of. whiskey. [Music].

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purpose I need some. help I've had good days and I've had. mad m. and I wouldn't trade it for the time. that we.

had by lies all my. [Applause]. li Bright Smiles down to crying night y. I keep you run in. [Music]. circles Chas in my.

tail he looks good on the. surface I need some. help cuz we've only got one shot from. the morning moment. started got to stay. on locked on target I got everything I.

need more than I want but it means. nothing When You're. Gone. [Music]. Gone But means nothing when you're. [Music]. come I know nothing is for sure I I know.

nothing is for. sure I know nothing is for sure I I know. [Music]. for all right something like that how. often do you do these acoustic that's.

the first time I've done it oh wow I'm. was figuring it out sorry. so sorry if I didn't really sell it to. you but hey there it is that's awesome. that's amazing you did it here for the. first time all right. what do I have to. do. well can you pull up an eord uh like. fingering yeah finger.

placement um are you Lefty no right hand. yeah don't this guitars are supposed to. be banged up a little bit don't be. scared of that okay do what do I do that. one maybe yeah oh boy there we go let me. get one of these. pics I got one. how cool are these things that's amazing. which part do you hold do you hold the. fat part the fat part some people hold. the it's it's kind of whatever but this.

kind of gives me the sting that I need. okay as far as tone goes keep hitting. this guitar all right so I'm. putting this finger on the third yeah. and then this one on the. fifth and this one right below. that you got to slide them in the same. spot slide them in the same spot yeah. they got to be in the. right those two bars oh.

tighter see there's all three of them. are in the same spot you can't see that. two of them are in the same spot see. that little spot there they going to be. in that little spot there yeah I got fat. fingers it's all right there red volkart. is one of the baddest dudes to play a. Telecaster and he got some okay I think. I got it I think I'm on the right one no. almost three that one right is that it. and then where do I hit. it am I doing it right push it more down.

right here down this one like that that. one there you. go the 12 string might not be helping. the most but right there right here y. okay you got to strum the strings now. yeah it's not it's close it's pretty. close. there it is. yep there you go you're on your way to. the best folk song anybody's ever.

heard that's it something crazy E minor. you can do a second chord just release. one finger yeah just release the the the. first finger release your pointer. finger put it back down you go back and. forth between two chords. there it is yeah you almost got a song. album coming soon album coming soon I. can see how this could get very. addicted this could be a real problem.

see this could be a real problem. right yeah I'm telling you man like once. once once I first played an eord on a. fended um Stratocaster through a. Fender Twin red knob 1980s or 1990s a it. was over for me I quit caring about. everything I could see how this could be.

very addictive you want me to take it. away yeah it seems like it would take. forever to get good at too N I think I. think like with a guy like you. who's like. disciplined like a guy like you like. discipline is no problem right yeah it's. a problem it's a problem that have too. much of it it's Obsession more than. discipline well then you probably be. good at that in probably about a year. and a half uhoh and you be out here. kicking ass and I have to go sit down. somewhere and i' be settling into my.

photography job damn somewhere in. Montana I might have to learn how to. play guitar man that was fun yeah I get. it you know I get it now. right don't think too hard about it but. now I'm thinking too hard about it cuz. I'm thinking about all the different. positions on the guitar that's one we. were listening to uh both Hendrix and. Stevie Ron voodo child the different. versions of it last night yeah yeah and. uh you know it's like Stevie Ron is the.

only dude that it doesn't offend me when. they cover Voodoo Child yeah you know. like Voodoo Child Slight Return Hendrick. 6768 was so [ __ ] good man it's like. anybody covering that is like what are. you doing but Stevie put like his own. weird flare on it yeah and I'm thinking. about all the different positions of the. fingers and the sounds and the thing and. you are singing while you're doing that. too you're not just doing that you're.

also manipulating your. voice yeah um but as far as Voodoo Child. goes who who's engineered that was it. Eddie Kramer I don't know with the. panning and the Psychedelic like back. and forth and and like the. Shaker it's oh my God is otherworldly. man and uh it's so good that that right. there is you can't you can't recreate. that stuff standing next to a mountain I. chop it down with the edge of my hand I.

got to say I got asked to do a a cover. and uh I've always been hesitant about. doing covers of Hendrick or. Stevie and I did it and I was like yeah. that's a reason why I've never done it. before well let me tell you something. man I know that you and Suzanne uh were. I know you were even either talking or. actively tried to do a version of. Midnight Rider cuz I was there um that. how many years ago was that where you.

guys did that downtown in la oh I don't. even know that's it was a long time ago. almost aade somewhere around a decade. ago uh I brought my oldest daughter and. we we saw you guys live and it was. insane and it was like a Monday night or. some [ __ ] at midnight in some weird bar. in downtown LA yeah who what it was like. an alcohol company put that on right. yeah we were in business with an alcohol. company which we soon got out of because. I didn't think that they really liked. us why would you send somebody that much.

alcohol if you really like them they. like you too much yeah but they they. sponsored this thing so it was a very. small gathering of people but you guys. did a copy you did a cover rather of. Midnight Rider it was [ __ ] amazing. yeah it was [ __ ] magic I never played. that s before Suzanne was just like come. sit in she didn't play it before either. she had to read the lyrics off her phone. that's right that's right so yeah we we. tried to we trying to put something.

together you got to cover that it was so. good man it was so good because it was. Midnight Rider but with your flare to it. this is it this is from my Instagram can. you play. this I yeah dead ass this one has got US. flag before Oh it had got US flag before. that's hilarious was so good though that. such a fun night oh my God what a. night that was back when she was with. honey honey yeah damn that was a decade. ago is that crazy I've been do he's a. bad [ __ ] man what year 2016 16.

close to a decade ago eight years ago. yeah wow yeah you guys have to cover. that yeah I think did we try did we do. it I can't even remember we might have. done it I haven't heard it if you did it. nobody sent it oh I haven't seen it yeah. I feel maybe it was a dream I think you. guys were in talks I remember Suzanne. was saying you guys were going to do it. I think we did it I but you. know I think we did it but I think I did.

it like in the middle of one of my. sessions like so when I'm in I was in my. mode and I. remember I think we did. it I feel like she said you guys were. going to do it until no I think it's. done it's it's it's done it's somewhere. it's done it should be done it's done I. think she I think she has it that's. crazy that I don't even know that is. crazy I don't know what that says about. my brain you have a lot going on yeah.

that's what it says something that would. be like a milestone for some people is. just like a part of everyday your life. no I'm pretty sure we did it. though I feel like she told me you did. it but I can't I'm not. positive I know she I felt like she said. something like you were going to do the. music first and she was going to sing. over the music I don't remember oh I. think she did the record damn that's. [ __ ] up no she had to do it with you. you no no no no no I think she actually.

did the track as far as recorded with. her band oh really I believe so dude. that's so crazy that's just like a blank. spot in my mind that night was a fun. night yeah it was it was a fun night. because it was just that's one of those. nights where like you get to see. something where very few people get to. see it you know just just like when when. we saw the fight at The UU UFC Apex. Center there's no one there yeah you get. like you're like wow I'm so lucky to be. here yeah but you know suzan is a. special artist though she really is.

she's really kind of a. Powerhouse she uh I remember the first. time I met her she was doing honey honey. at uh like. this funky sessions thing in LA and just. the voice man just the voice the. songwriting it's like play anything. she's plays violin violin plays guitar. plays everything got we got we got cuts. on this album that that you know we're. not releasing but going to be used for. something else where she plays amazing.

violin on some stuff and she sings over. she's incredible she's amazing she's and. I didn't realize like when you work in. the studio with her you realize how. genius she is MH like she's not playing. around no no she's really good you know. she's a studied I have a friend of mine. musician we did an end of the world show. on um December 21st 2012 cuz that was. when the Mayans thought it was going to. be the end of the world I remember I was. watching I was freaked out I was ready. to go with y'all man so we did an end of.

the world show and I said let's put. together a real fun show so it was Stan. hope Joey Diaz me uh honey honey I think. Duncan was on the show too and so we did. the show in La um and uh my friend who's. a musician is like he he saw her he goes. yo he goes that girl is [ __ ]. talented he goes dude like she could. play anything like look at her like her. voice is incredible she plays a violin. this is insane yeah yeah she's and she's. a badass guitar player badass writer she.

does everything yeah yeah and she's cool. as [ __ ] absolutely she's so fun so fun. to be around she's hilarious I feel like. if [ __ ] went down and you needed her to. squat up with you like she could throw. yeah yeah you want her on your side in. the in the apocalypse absolutely she'd. figur it out abs absolutely Yeah man so. much respect to her yeah much respect to. her much respect to you too. congratulations on the new album like. it's beautiful it's awesome it's always. good to hang with you thanks for.

listening hanging it thanks thanks for. the cigar yeah no problem I got you all. right um let's go out Saturday night. let's do it let's do it okay all right. that's it bye Everybody by. [Music]. n.