Joe Rogan Experience #2116 - Kevin James

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day go shimy let's go Shimmer shim. Shimmy Shimmy most people don't know. about shimmy they don't know about your. Alter Ego no well yeah you were the one. brought it out of. me we were right well we we do show we.

would do shows in New York and you would. go full shimmy I'd be on the side of. side of the stage yelling out. shimmy well when we first. started by the way we we did The Joe. Rogan Experience 30 years ago right just. wasn't millions of people not exactly. just playing pool um you you I remember. susman brought you into town you started. at Nicks was it Nicks or I started at. stitches in Boston stitches and then uh. I was like two years in when I met you.

and then uh I think we met at East Side. mhm which was awesome what a great Club. what a great Club there shout out to. Richie manini yes my man he he was it. was the greatest the greatest place to. go I remember uh it would be a line. around the block two shows like on a. Wednesday night it was insane comedy. then that place was golden age of comedy. at the time 1990 yes oh my God it was. incredible back then 91 is I started at. 89 I think I Met You in what is it 90 91. Maybe maybe 9091 somewhere around.

somewhere in there uh and I was you know. I was following everybody that was my. thing like I I was being the stand-up. comedian with the you know the jacket. sleeves pushed up and the bolo tie you. know what I'm talking about I was. straight that and you came into town and. we were like who is this dude like you. just didn't care about anything and it. was like you've always remained the same. and it was just incredible to watch we. were like whoa he just doesn't care and.

that's what you were you would work with. me on that you would be like brother you. can't be like you're handing out a. platter of food for these people like do. what you want to do and I was like I. just got to get good yeah I gotta wrap. my head around that you're right you. know I. just I would just try to make the. audience so happy you're like stop it. stop it and you got to let go and you'd. get me going crazy I get all fired up. there I'd be like yelling at people they. like whoa it's like why maybe we bring. it back a little bit but it was. different man it was it was it really.

taught me to Mo most of all to be. comfortable in front of audience and not. care about them you know it's I still I. literally battle with it to this day. that anxiety of oh gosh I get nervous. and I start overthinking things so um. but it really helped me to say like just. do what you do and it's almost like the. CU the audience is like a dog right they. they sense fear you know 100% yeah. they're animals just like we are we're. all animals that's right and it's like.

they know when you know and if you're. comfortable even if you're faking it. they'll go with you you do a joke and. you're confident they'll laugh just. because they think it's funny you know. they look around and everybody's like oh. it must be funny because he's just got. confidence by and you had that. confidence always man you always in. insanely intense and just never look. back and way to go man way to go for you. too you just always needed a hype man M. you you you just need someone to like. let you go like give them the green. light give them the green light it's so. funny you're right you're right you just.

needed a hype man you were the one who. did it for me in Montreal too yeah do. you remember that going this place by. the way do you remember the beer we. would drink there were two kinds of this. beer I can't remember this Canadian beer. I've been racking my brain to think. about it it was like there was like a. Gold version of it and like an like an. Amber uh and it was just the greatest. stuff when we get fired up up there and. I loved it man I loved going to that. Montreal comedy F oh it was the best. back when it was I think it's gone under. I think they did just announced they're.

going bankrupt oh. really yeah unfortunately see well she'. tell people what it was so what it was. during our time then when we were young. was the Montreal Comedy Festival was. where young comedians would go up and. you could kind kind of get a deal and. that's where you got the deal to do the. king Queens well I got the deal to do. NBC right and turned in yeah once that. failed that went into to CBS but once. you get in the thing about people should.

know like in the 90s there was this. thing that was happening where everybody. looked at a comedian like this could be. the next Roseanne this could be the next. Tim Allen this could be the next. Seinfeld so every time they looked at. you they're like what do you got what do. you got for me and the Agents would try. to put it together as a sitcom yes and. they had this showcase called the. Montreal Comedy Festival the Just for. Laughs Comedy Festival and it was the. most insane thing you would go there and. it would change your life you could have. one set one 15minute set and all of a. sudden you got a half a million dollars.

100% you have one thing one set that. pops and people talking about there's a. buzz and it's like you're in you're set. and they have bidding wars yes so like. CBS would be Fox would be they would all. be throwing in and you know there's guys. who walked you remember chicken chicken. was the crazy guy yes yes yes chicken. got the deal that killed the deals yes. yes he got like uh 800,000 or something. it was some crazy money or I don't know. what it was some nutty amount of money. but he had no act right it was after. that they thought he was he just tricked.

everybody he did and I don't know how he. did it and I wonder if he had a hype man. if he could have kept tricking people. yeah like maybe he just went off the. rails with anxiety when success starts. because that's one of the things that. does happen and I've talked about it I. think everybody admits it you when it. first starts happening you think it's. going to go away you get super anxiety. ridden you you you you feel like an. impostor and you like you can't like. you'd show up on the set and you're like. are they kicking me out like I'm still. here my bud I'm telling you I've I still.

deal with that I'm not even kidding you. obviously don't and you hav't I do. though I though yeah I do I just ignore. it I tell to shut the [ __ ] up well. that's what you got to do I guess and. that's what I don't do enough because I. start thinking and I get thing and I. start overthinking both sides I'm like. oh gosh what if this happens or this. that this means something to this day. yeah like if I'm doing a like a theater. and it's my people you know and I know. that they're coming to pay to see me I I. I I'm pretty confident I feel like I'm.

going to do well but if I do a club that. they don't know me or something like I. did a a corporate gig uh like a month. ago like in Miami and I was like you. know I was like oh boy CU corporate gigs. you know they can go either way and it's. they could be horrible well I get there. it's in Miami really goodlook people. everybody it's in a Lobby of a hotel and. I'm I thought this was in the theater. I'm there and it's a good and I'm now. I'm getting worried I'm like I got to do. how much and they like you got to do an. hour and then find out nobody there.

wants to see me the woman who is the. like CEO of this company was it was her. birthday and she liked me so she brought. me in to to for all her friends to see. dude I'm sitting in the lobby and I'm. finding all this information out as I'm. sitting there and I started I'm not. kidding I started I've never had a panic. attack I started going what do you mean. she nobody else knows I'm here or this. or that or they don't know they go no no. no they don't know you know this is a. company and you know and I'm looking in. the room room it's in the lobby I can.

see through like a little glass uh. window and they're drinking they're. hammering they're talking at table we're. set up for comedy too just like round. taes uh booths like not even facing you. and I'm on I see a postage stamp of a. stage that I got to stand on and I'm. like Oh my go so I start hyperventilate. I really do I go wish I was so I start. going I I can't I can't do this I'm. talking to Skyler my my assistant but. you know he's he's he's helping me out. here and I'm like hey just tell them we. we can't do it he's like what are you. talking about I go just tell them we're.

going to give him the money back we're. just not going to do it we don't need to. do this I don't want to do it it's is. not going to go well I started really. panicking and then they started going up. she's up on stage now introducing me and. I go oh my gosh we're going oh my gosh. so I start freaking out heart is going. exactly been doing comedy for 30 years. I've been doing standup I go I don't. need this I'm ready to call sussy and go. I don't want to do this anymore I don't. want to do it I I get up there and go I. go just get him with that first joke if. you do you settle because if you don't. you know if they don't you on that first.

joke you're [ __ ] you're gone you're. [ __ ] you're gone for an hour for an. hour you're gone you know oh gosh and. they're not even listening they're loud. when they bring me up and when I came up. it wasn't even like they all turned and. went nuts but uh I got him with I don't. know what I said I just said one joke. about the lady thanking me you know. thanking for bringing me up and and uh I. just won them over in one little sweet. way and and they they turned and they. clapped and they laughed at one thing. and then I went into another joke very. gingerly just kind of going this that. and they laughed at that and I go okay I.

just settled in I go I got them and they. were great they were great they were. really great and I was sweating the. whole time really feeling the sweat you. know what I'm saying it was like it was. it was it was rough but uh that's so. nerve-wracking I'm glad it worked out. great but I hate it but I just I ran. into Sandler when I missed you at the. airport I ran into Sandler he was just. telling me about the [ __ ] worst. corporate gig that he just had to do. yeah I called him about he had same. thing he had the same thing so it's nice. to see somebody like that has it too. yeah a guy like him can still eat dick I.

talked to Billy Joel and he says he. literally he was like I've gone through. those I'm like you but when you're. playing music it's different man they'll. throw that Saudi money at yeah he threw. crazy money at him and he did a a. corporate gig or whatever it was and he. says they weren't even listening they. turned away and they and it's like just. you and the band and you just go let's. go boys you know and they play Dana. White had a 40th birthday party and uh. Stone Temple Pilots played and it was. insane these dudes played like it was a. packed Arena.

where it was at a [ __ ] conference. room in a hotel somewhere they didn't. care they didn't give a [ __ ] they had a. beautiful stage set up the stage was set. up nice but like you know all of a. sudden they were like hey everybody. Stone Temple Pilots and then they. [ __ ] I am. am the I I was so impressed by his. ability to perform I mean there's like. it took a while for people to even. filter to the dance floor in front of. them and and watch the show this dude.

did it like there was 50,000 people out. there it was incredible I mean he didn't. back off at all he who cares less has. more power it's literally like that's it. it's I'm going around with a tray like. you guys think this is funny he's like I. don't care he didn't give a [ __ ] and. everybody jumps in full commitment you. know when someone just fully commits to. something like that it's very inspiring. and you you'll never forget that because. if you never see anybody fully commit. that's why you never see Comics ever.

that exist where there's no other great. Comics the best comic in the world never. comes out of Tallahassee out of nowhere. no scene we all need to see other people. do something special and if you're lucky. you live in New York or you live in LA. or now you live in Texas and you get to. see these killers all the time and then. you get a sense of it so you know like. where the watermark is until you see a. guy jump in front of a [ __ ] 40th. birthday party who's a a platinum. selling artist in this insane band.

that's iconic and perform like they're. performing in front of an AR he had the. bullhorn and everything it was. incredible it was incredible the show. was amazing wow it was so good but it. was like that [ __ ] guy worked for his. money like he he he doesn't he didn't. have like a I'll give him a seven. tonight I would give him an eight every. night yeah the we was playing it's like. guns blazing that's the way you got to. be man I got to I got to do it you need. a hype man I need a hype man I'm doing. you're two different guys you're youy.

you you know me if I'm left to my own. devices I I am I I go into a little hole. I do it's my whole life everything. Sports everything but this is the thing. like I have uh I'm playing a first my. first Arena coming up and I'm freaking. out I've never done that before are you. doing it in the round no that's the way. to do it you know why the lead for that. this is it's okay you'll still have a. great time they're still great the. Arenas are great they're fun it's a. experience but the round is the best.

because it's actually intimate in the. strangest way because the music facing. everybody so all the people see each. other and they're all in it together I. love that I love that idea but does the. the stage does it turn no you walk. around I used to do the one you the. Westberry Music Fair oh it walks it. spins it would spin for you and you. wouldn't even know where the hell you. are and then you have to walk off it's. the awkward walkoff you don't know where. the stairs are you don't know where they. are moved and everybody shifted and you.

don't know who you're looking at you. have to get find some distinctive person. in the audience that sits Mark that big. guy is my marker there the one in. Phoenix spins around too what's that the. Celebrity Theater you turn it on or off. yeah that's a good one too that's a cuz. it's a comedy club but it's in the round. it's like a 2000 seat comedy club in the. round that's what it's like I would feel. guilty like half the crowd is looking. you know I'd be thinking now I got. another thing to think about they've. seen my ass for the last 40 minutes I. got to spend it you know and do you set. up a joke over here and deliver the.

punch line there or how do you break it. up well you have giant screens so the. thing about the arena is they have. massive screens so if for some reason. like you know uh we did these ones in. Ohio uh and Chappelle came down and it. was it was very interesting to watch. because they didn't know he was supposed. to be there and uh it was my show and uh. Tony didn't know whether he was going to. bring Dave up or me because Dave hadn't. gotten there yet oh wow and so it's like. Tony's on stage. and he's got like five minutes before he.

should go on stage and all of a sudden. Dave rolls up posy [ __ ] limo yeah. this is a guy doesn't overthink things. he don't need the hype man he just. strolled in yeah and uh and and he just. came to say hi and and he's always like. should I go up I go what do you mean. should you go up I go go up let's go he. goes when I go you'll be up in 5 minutes. he goes well let's have a drink so we. had a drink and then we're sitting in. the green room and I go dude he's got. about one minute to go I go I'll walk. out there with you cuz he needs know. that it's not me that he's bringing up.

da so he starts bringing me up this is. one of my best friends one of my. favorite and then I'm like flash in the. light and he sees Dave and the crowd. slowly starts to realize it's Dave when. they see me and Dave walk to the stage. and by the time he says Ohio Zone Dave. Chappelle it is one full minute of a. standing ovation one full minute. yeah so he takes this Victory lap around.

the stage for like one I mean a full. minute man it was I I filmed it I put it. up on my Instagram it's insane it's. inspiring me and Tony were just looking. at each other and looking around going. wow it just felt special it felt like. special that you could be there like wow. and then he goes oh H and he puts the. the mic out just even bigger. it was insane it was insane it was so.

[ __ ] cool cuz he's from Ohio right. you know he lives in in U Yellow Springs. which is like right outside of Dayton so. it's like for him to to go there like. that and but to be in the round see the. round is everybody sees everybody it's. not just you facing this crowd and then. you're in the crowd they're there in the. round it seems like everyone's all in. this together it's in speci way yeah and. those screens are giant so you just walk. around but like when Dave was facing.

that way I'd see his face on the screen. you just it's not bad it's like it's. still awesome because you're there and. everybody just kind of walks around you. just get used to walking around nobody. really stands still right and points in. One Direction and an arena in the round. that would be rude well the screens help. I mean that is true massive yeah they're. everywhere they're giant they're 50 feet. wide they're [ __ ] everywhere so. that's it makes it easy it's an. experience I would love to be in the I. think I'm in Denver and in Salt Lake. City where I'm worried about this my.

first arena in it's like you're going to. have fun I don't know man it's going to. be fun you just it's going to be fun. though this is Dave here it is listen to. this you guys in for. aat I get to bring up one of my best. friends one of my favorite comedians two. of the best in the world ladies and. gentlemen it's like a. fight oh my God.

I mean you literally can't even hear him. bring up Dave Chappelle look at this. look at. [Applause]. this oh that's. insane no.

no it's like that's the sickest thing. I've ever seen am it was like I felt. like we were seeing the Beetles I felt. like it was like Hendrick got on stage. well done for you bringing him up before. you I mean that's insane it was awesome. that's incredible it was so fun it was. so but that's the thing it's like but I. do that all the time you know when I'm. at the club I'll have five six guys are. going on in front of me they're all. Headliners I'm I'm going on stage hour. and a half into the show I would again.

my theaters um I'd be comfortable your. Club I would be afraid I'd be afraid cuz. you got such Heavy Hitters and I come up. and I'm talking about weird little. observational stuff and it's like w it. would get in my head it would no there's. got lot of weird observational comedians. kill there it's a fun place like Duncan. kills there and you know and we're it's. all just it's all great it's all a bunch. of different but for me it's like to to. have a I want the audience see like the. best possible show they could see so. they're they're gonna see Ron White.

they're gonna see Shane Gillis and Tony. henchcliffe and Brian Simpson and that's. insane and all these monsters that come. into town like in any given week it's. Christa Stefano or [ __ ] Dave Smith or. it's like there's so many killers how. how often during the week are are you. there and how often like are guys. working out their stuff there night. seven nights a week seven nights a week. seven nights a week two shows each night. in each room except for uh Mondays and. Sundays which are open mic nights so.

open mic night there's uh a show in the. small room there's only one show but. then there's uh at least one show in the. main room that's a Regular Show Regular. comedians wow that's incredible yeah and. it's um two shows a night in each room. so four shows a night how how bigger. each room one's 250 and one's about 110. to 120 is there you feel a difference or. oh yeah yeah yeah the little one super. intimate the little one is like um if. you remember the belly room at The. Comedy Store store it's like the belly.

room and the original room had a baby. and that's the little one wow it's like. medium siiz little and then the big room. is like the the original room and the. main room at The Comedy Store had a baby. that's what it's like and you when. you're trying out stuff people going up. there with like notepads and stuff like. that Christina bitki does it all the. time she goes up with a notepad a lot of. guys go up with notepads yeah it's like. if you got some new [ __ ] you're working. on cigar he goes up with no pounds if. you have new [ __ ] right cuz you want to. be able to remember you don't want to. [ __ ] up the bit and the audience kind of.

appreciates like oh this is so new they. have to look at it it's not polished and. then Brian Simpson hosts this show. called bottom of the barrel and that's a. really fun show where you go up there. and you have no material and you just. reach into this whiskey barrel and. there's a bunch of different premises. that the audience members have written. down and you pull it out you open it up. and you do a bit on that yeah you just. start talking. [ __ ] yeah but the audience knows that's. what you're doing so because they know. what you're doing it's really fun yeah. they they're not expecting. Pol material everybody knows what the.

show is the show is [ __ ] around and. maybe if I was to go there and do my ACT. I would pretend like I ped pull that out. of the whiskey bottle first the barrel. and then she ever. notice oh man yeah but you can like if. you have a bit on a subject and you just. tell them I actually have a bit on the. subject and then you can do it or you. know and there's also like sometimes. there's like there's the other night. there's some thing that I've been. writing that I've never done on stage. before and just by cheer. coincidence the same subject was.

something that I pulled out of the piece. of paper are you kidding yeah so I was. like oh robot [ __ ] dolls right so which. is like you know you can see I have a. whole junk on that I just I got now I'm. going to throw it away cuz you're. working on it I don't want to but it was. one of those moments where uh I like oh. I like last night I spent two hours. writing stuff on this right so let's. just run with it here see what happens. have you ever had a dip cuz they must go. nuts when they see you. right yeah and then cuz back on Long.

Island I'll work out at a little club. like Governor's you know you know I. don't know if you remember that oh yeah. governor in lown yeah and I'll go out. there and I'm Hometown boy and I go up. there and they go nuts for for like a. minute or so not like that but like they. go crazy it's fun to see you and then. within 2 minutes if I don't like they're. ordering sausage and rolls and it's like. they're they're they're they're talking. and it's it's it's like putting weight. on the bar it's like I'm like whoa yeah. New York audiences too they just they.

don't have much patience for [ __ ]. it's a it's a good place to start comedy. New York and Boston both good places to. start comedy cuz people don't have any. patience for [ __ ] right get yeah. yeah we're happy to see you but come. with the jokes exactly let's go come on. I'm here I'm here to laugh yeah I do a. lot of writing while I have a tour like. if I have a tour in in the theaters you. know where I'll try to if I have a set. theme set I'll try to add some stuff in. there for the next one have you. that do you ever yeah yeah when you're.

doing a lot of shows it's it's great. yeah cuz you kind of get a sense of. where you could stick stuff in and youu. you always have the safety net of I can. go here if it's going nowhere yeah. that's my problem that's what I do too I. I'll write a huge Chunk on something and. won't know when to bail on it if it's. not going like you you know it's. dependent on this thing I got to follow. through with it now and if they're not. in they don't buy in right away I'm like. wow I got three more minutes of this. stuff often times I I realize it's. because I didn't buy in right that's. what it is mostly with me if I'm.

enduring a bit I didn't want to be. talking about this I wish I shouldn't. didn't bring this one up like if I ever. get to that place like you just have to. fight off that thought there's this. thought that comes into your mind like. oh why did I bring this up I don't want. to do this bit you can't but you can't. say you know what [ __ ] that bit cuz then. the audience will be like what yes yes. no so you just have to never let. yourself get to the mindset where you're. like I don't want to do this you got to. remember there there was something. whatever the subject is there was. something about that subject that when. you initially started writing a joke.

about it it was resonating with you and. you were like what the [ __ ] is this but. if you hear it too many times it's like. anything else you get tired of it you it. loses its luster but that's just a. mental weakness you just have to realize. it's just like get your your head. wrapped around that you can't allow. yourself to think that way and surely. this thought originally was valid. because that's why you're so excited. about it that's why you wrote a bit. about it the audience doesn't know that. you've said it a hundred times over the.

last year right or more they they just. want to hear it right so they want they. want to hear it from fresh eyes so you. have to put yourself in fresh eyes right. you have to be able to do that and. that's the trick and it's not it's not. like you're faking it either you have to. actually really be thinking about it. like you think about it if you want it. to work at the best you know like when a. bti is really sharp yeah you're you have. to be thinking about it as you're like. enthusiastic. be actually engaged with each part of it.

while it's happening well when I write a. new bit and if I write a big chunk and. it's too much I'll go up with too much. stuff and I didn't rehearse it like. because words are so efficient you say. one word or you're repeating a word it. stumbles you up and then you're like you. know and then it it kind of blows it for. this the next part of the bit so it's. like I got to work more at um like. really rehearsing my bits you know just. really getting through how I'm going to. speak how I'm you know cuz I Stumble all. the time well it's a problem in you. start thinking about it right you know.

and with new bits they're just not. etched into your brain yet so as you go. up with them you like they're like. little Bambi walking on ice you know. it's not steady that's yeah it's but. that's what like small shows are good. for that's what [ __ ] around is good. for right and that's what also is like. that's when it's really important that. you're inspired by whatever this idea is. if I'm inspired by the idea I can always. talk about it right like if there's a. thing that I can get behind where I'll. go so you explain this to me and then if.

I'm in that mindset I can make it happen. but I just can never let myself not be. interested in what I'm talking about. that's just that's a problem that people. have and that I've had and it's it's. just but you have to recognize that it's. like throwing a toaster in a bathtub. well what I'm trying to do now is. because I really I used to write just. every it was just separate jokes joke. joke joke joke here and every time I. would bring up a new subject it was like. the audience is starting from scratch.

again to try to catch up and it's. exhausting to try to understand so if I. if I try to put it in a story or like a. theme to my set at least they kind of. know what's happening before you know so. they know oh this was this is you know. you tend to do these type of things and. then you talk about something like that. they they go with you it's like you're. not starting a you know it's easy to. what is it push a moving car momentum. exactly and that's been working better. for me cuz I you know I everything was. like just isolated bits of jokes that I. would put you know and I'd go I just put. him in anywhere put a lazy uh connective.

tissue to it you know and it would be. like it would work you get to laugh but. it's like there's no you know building. that's why I always admired guys like. stepen Wright do those non seers I'm. like how do you do that and how do you. write God that's going to be so hard to. write um who's the guy uh died he such a. great MIT same thing yeah same thing non. seers amazing and you were with him. every and that's what made it even.

funnier you know like who does that. now are there any non Secor guys that. just go joke I guess Jimmy Carr's kind. of non. secator but some guys just they're just. one bit to the next one subject to the. next and with Mitch Hedberg it was. always like super ridiculous like and. and Stephen Wright same thing everything. was really ridiculous and that became. something that actually elevated it to. like right I me like it was the they. weren't storytellers you know right it.

was part it was part of the fun so out. of it yeah yeah that this guy was like. didn't nowhere somebody asked me do I. want a frozen banana I said no but I. want a regular banana later so. yes he's the best a [ __ ] he's the. best oh he was amazing man oh that was a. guy like he just didn't want to kick. heroin yeah they were trying to get him. to kick heroin he's like uh-uh I like it. is that what it was just he liked it he. just wasn't going to kick it he was.

hospitalized while we were on the man. show and Doug stanh hope and he and and. Mitch were very close and I you know I. admired him deeply as comedian he's a he. was a great comic man and that was when. he was I think he was hosp was with Gang. Green yeah cuz he was shooting it you. know. allegedly it's um heroin is a scary one. because it seems to touch this part of. people that makes them very creative and.

very like it resonates with people like. so much music that's great it's made on. heroin but God what a curse what a curse. when you watch somebody gets caught in. the opiate web it's so terrifying it's. so sad to see yeah and when you have. someone who's just like this I mean. imagine the kind of bits that Mitch. Hedberg could have come up with over all. these decades after that what a talent.

yeah and he was all nonsecretor it was. all one bit leads into the next bit. Double Tree. Hotel I love it I love it yeah I love. that humor man just he he was amazing. yeah he was he was it's just um you know. that guy had a hard time in the. beginning because people didn't know. what he was doing so he would go on. after like these high energy like music. guys would sing songs and [ __ ] and.

they'd have like a dirty rap and they. bring. up it be different like that and you're. in the middle of Ohio or whever and so. they're not used to that and they they. want the song they don't know who you. are you're just the headliner oh he's on. evening at The Improv okay and then they. go to see you they really didn't know. they just said oh look MTV half hour. Comedy Hour he must be good and then. they go to the local comedy club because. it's a thing to do on a Friday night but. when they don't know you like that's one. thing. uh that is you know made it a little bit.

easier is when people are coming to see. you and they know you as opposed to. who's this next guy and it's kind of. like just make me laugh way way way. easier but also comes with a trap. because the laugh at stuff that's not. that good right like the we've all seen. guys who only perform for their crowds. only like in big places like they only. do theaters only do their crowds only. like that acting get soft yeah it can. get soft and still work because they're.

not being tested they're not performed. with other Comics all the time well you. see a lot of these guys now that are. developing an act because they did. something on like Instagram or what. whatever like they develop these. audiences that you know they get popular. yeah and then they put together an act. they go and they and the clubs are like. well let's put this guy up you know yeah. and um they sell out like crazy because. you know they they got a big following. yeah but it's not like working your. stand up man it's a different game well.

there's also a lot of guys who do crowd. control like they do crowd work stuff. like it's like just [ __ ] around with. the crowd and that's most of these clips. you've seen a lot of guys who put up. clips of cloud work because that way. they don't have to crowd work because. you don't have to burn your material. just talking to the crowd you just talk. to them it's fine that can go bad it can. go bad but if you do it enough and you. get some funny moments like Andre SCH. has a lot of great moment he's really. good at it and you take those clips and.

that way you're putting [ __ ] up but. you're not burning any of your jokes the. problem is some of those guys can only. do that Schultz is a great comic like he. could do great bits he could do great I. mean he can do anything but some of. these guys are only good at talking to. the audience and then when they have to. do did you ever notice everybody's like. whoa the audience can feel the shift. when I go back to my own material like. oh you wrote this yo what is this whack. ass. you beening about all day you know.

you're better off responding like. there's there's certain guys that like. their thing is really just talking to. the crowd and that's that's a different. thing it's a great thing it's really. great when someone's funny at it but. it's also a different thing than the. actual jokes see I I I fear that like I. don't like doing that like so I've built. my act with the the the the the speed of. it that it like no one has the chance to. get in and ask a qu or or Heckle or. whatever you know you you build this. shell around you so it's just not enough. time you can't even get it in so if.

someone says something it's like you're. off them quick you know because I don't. want to have to depend on doing that. going what and stopping and then trying. to get back to the bit that you were you. know doing yeah that you don't need that. some people like it some people like to. interact with the crowd it's just it's. also it it's extra juice right the. audience realizes it's happening. live this is crazy and then if you get. have good one liners you know in the. moment it's a great tool to have I wish. I could you know depend on more do you. talk to the crowd at all I do.

occasionally you have to and then at The. Comedy Store you had to The Comedy Store. you had to The Comedy Store for the. longest time had zero crowd control they. do a good job now of policing the room. but back then there was it was Comics. that were the door people it was Comics. that seated people was the comics that. took the the money at the cash register. was Comics working there and there were. all like they didn't want to do that job. so they were the worst bouncers and. nobody ever quieted the audience it just. you need to learn how to do it in the. fire but you toughen up that way like.

you you build a you you understand how. to go with the flow right you know and. some but some people don't do that and. they did not like The Comedy Store for. that reason like they just go up there. and they like to have a slow pace and do. their bits and build that's me that's. more me I would have been I I was always. afraid of The Comedy Store it's just. when you go up like if if you know. someone like Adam EG is who's brilliant. at scheduling and understands talent and. where people go you just want to put.

them in the right place you don't want. to put them after a music act right you. know like that's the death that is. Absolut the death is the guy who has the. funny songs right you're not following. that you just see the the guitar in the. back and the guy's L you know tuning it. up and you're like oh no when is he on. and he like he's on next then you're up. then you know like no no the guy with. the guitar always ruined the show they. always killed they would kill and you. couldn't follow them y yeah musical acts. raps anybody could do a rap remember red.

Johnny and the round guy oh yeah those. guys would do that rap you're done it. was the show was over [ __ ] you see them. go you I go I'm getting in my car I'm. leaving I'll see you later I go I'm not. there's no need for me to be here it's. crazy how like a like a song or a just. like a funny song it just it tops. everything yeah it who is that guy that. used to be on Dr Demento there was that. guy that used to have dirty songs back. in the day and he was famous he would. tour around with dirty songs John Valby.

yes thank you that guy remember that guy. Dr dirty do dirty that's right he would. light up a room light up a room you're. not going on after him you're it's over. and everybody knew who he was and you. would hear his songs on like Dr Demento. remember like late night on the radio. you would hear his songs he would tour. and do just dirty blow job songs and. everybody. go that guy had a business man and I'm. going up there talking about puppy. afterwards hey you guys.

ever ever lose your. keys and you're searching like this. guy's talking about getting a [ __ ]. while you're taking a [ __ ] it's he was. just like but he had that following of. people that would just come to see just. those songs so they would hear the same. songs over and over again loved it right. yes that's another thing yes like dice. had that like dice could always do the. Rhymes and the audience wanted to hear. those Rhymes what's in the bow [ __ ] oh. oh you don't have to write as much it's.

great right you can you know but you're. going to get bored like you know like. you ever see that Kennison song about. the Beach Boys uh Kennison bit Kennison. had a bit about the Beach Boys about. like you know imagine them 35 years. later singing the song same [ __ ] song. like not wanting to be there anymore. that it's just not the same experience. that's tough yeah yeah you want you want. to be able to do new stuff the new stuff. is scary but it's so excit I. mean uh I found like it's I never really.

worked my act like when when I started. doing the show and and getting involved. with that my stand up the writing and. all that I would still go to like Vegas. with Ray to do it on a weekend but I. wasn't working my stuff I wasn't a. comedian you know what I'm saying like. you got to really you know and I felt. that you know you're delivering the same. act year after year kind of changing. here a little bit here and there and. then you're going out and doing it and. it was like it was bothering me so much. hated my ACT I couldn't stand doing it. anymore and didn't have time to write.

that much so like a few years back I. just stopped and said I love standup so. much like I just want to start and. really get into it and I tell you it's. it's the how much time did you take off. of. it I wasn't really off it was just like. I would keep it going but just doing. shows no writing like I really wasn't. writing for years justs yeah yeah I mean. if if something funny hit me I would. write it down but not not working it not. writing it's so hard when you're doing a. television show you know and when I was.

doing news radio I I fell into a real. like a spot over a period at least a. year where I wasn't writing at all I. didn't do any new jokes I had the same. tired ass jokes you were we I remember. jumping in your Supra and uh heading to. The Comedy Store like you would go up a. lot you would still do things there no. yeah but that maybe that was a different. time that was when I snapped out of it. okay so there was a per. there was a period when I first moved. there in like.

94 where um we were working like 16. hours a day and I was tired all the time. and I would just show up at the club and. do my set and then go and I was just. doing it because I was still a comic. yeah I was like in my head that's what I. felt like I was doing in my head I was. always like they're going to realize I'm. not an actor I'm going to get fired this. is this is the last TV show I ever work. on I almost got fired from the first. show I ever got was on where I was the. star of the show hard ball yeah I almost. got fired from that I remember that one. cuzz I was I was getting an argument.

with the producer they they hired some. new producer and he wrote these terrible. lines I was like this is insane like. this is so bad it's insane and they were. going to fire me you didn't stomach it. man I was like this is well the thing is. the guys who wrote the original show. were brilliant they wrote for Married. with Children they wrote for The. Simpsons right and um Jeff Martin and. Kevin Curran and when they had their. show the pilot was their show like Jim. Brewer was the mascot I remember that it. fun Mike star from good Fells was in it.

I mean it was uh Bruce Greenwood the guy. that went on to be the in the Star Trek. movies these guys have been in. everything he was in hard ball I. remember I go to your tapings man it was. so much fun they were going to fire me. cuz I was like this is terrible so they. they hired a new producer the new. producer came in and took over and. turned it into like the sloppiest most. obvious terrible sitcom like that. prototypical sitcom where you watch and. you go you just got to get out of the. room the jokes are so goddamn obvious. and they wanted firing him but it was.

between me and him and so it it. literally got down to this thing where. my you know they're calling my agent. saying this kid is ruining his career oh. that's hilarious and I was like oh no. I'm ruining my career so I always. thought that eventually they were going. to figure out that I'm not built for. this this is not my thing and so when I. would show up on on the set of uh news. radio it's like it's like at any moment. in time they're going to figure out that. I'm not supposed to be here but we were. working cuz you didn't want to though I. thought you were funny as hell in that.

stuff like you just didn't like it you. didn't you're insecure didn't have an. any experience about actors didn't know. how to hang around with them um I was so. used to. Comics so for me it was like Fighters. and then Comics right so just crazy. people I was just only around crazy. people so when I was around normal. people or people that were like really. sensitive like really really sensitive. like sensitive on purpose. like were they're trying to be offended. by things that's sitcom people and you.

know when I get into that oh was. exhausting that's hilarious it was. exhausting and you'd always hear about. tyrants you'd always hear about like the. Brett Butlers and the people that would. scream and throw coffee in the face of. the writers like news radio was that bad. like those guys were oh there was none. of that there right that was cool no. there was a party the the the writers. were great it was totally different kind. of experience right but what was my. point my point was that what was my. point. you were saying that thought I was going.

to get fired yeah it wasn't it wasn't. for you you thought they were going to. find you out oh so I I had to just do. standup just to prove that I was still a. comic because I remember at one point in. time the producer of news radio said to. me he was like why are you still doing. standup you're an actor now I was like. oh no never take that away I was like Oh. no I got to get out of here I was like I. was literally thinking like oh this is. like a changing you right a trap and. then um I had uh one really bad B set. one night in front of one of the. producers and one of the writers [ __ ].

ate [ __ ] I went up at the store like. late at night at like 1 a.m. in the main. room and just had a terrible set just. bombed and then I I really got to work. after that then I realized like oh I've. been slacking off that's what I felt man. I've been slacking off because I've been. working 16-hour days and I use it as an. excuse to not write and then from then. on like everything got way better like. way better my my standup I I dialed it. in much more how do you write how do you. are you the guy sitting down I mean I.

sit down in front of a computer and I. just write I just I don't write like. this is exactly how I'm going to say it. I just like spill my thoughts out. because I feel like it takes me a lot. longer to write the words than it does. for me to think about things so the more. time that I'm actually just writing the. words it's extra time thinking about the. thing speak into a computer do you talk. it no I just type really yeah I type and. I just what ever the subject is I'll. like there's this one subject that I'm.

doing right now where I've written it. written about the subject four times so. I start a whole new Microsoft Word file. four times and just completely revisit. it just one more time what program are. you using CU I'm nuts with that I just. use Microsoft Word and I go into uh. there's um focus mode have you seen. Focus mode yeah BL everything else out. right yeah I used to use right room I'll. still use right I did scrier I like I. you scrier yeah but I'll find one thing.

about it and then I'll go I don't like. this that it does sets my bits up this. way or it can't do this or it can't. transfer that and then I'll spend the. whole day looking up for apps for the. perfect app and I'm not I'm not right. you're distracted yourself of course. course yeah yeah I try to avoid that but. scrier what I do with scrier is I make. each individual bit once I have it kind. of boiled down then I put it in the. columns so the way give scrier set up. you know whatever the subject is I love.

scrier the only thing it didn't do it. didn't transfer transfer to my phone or. or the other you know like when I'm at a. gig and I want to look it up quick you. have to go to like a Dropbox or like. that you know and it was like it was. annoying I go I can't I need it right. away yeah that's where notes on iPhone. is the best the best the problem with. notes you ready for this I got them all. you can't categorize you can't it it it. either goes alphabetical so if you have. your bits I like seeing my bits on the. side where I go I'm working on this and. be able to move them anywhere you you. can't right cuz it'll fall into that.

that kind of screws me up that's true. that you can't keep it in order that's. the only thing about then I'm off that. one then I'm looking five more hours I'm. looking for other hours right because if. you have a folder in your notes and then. you open up that folder and edit any one. of those things any one of those. subjects it'll move to the top cuz. that's the newest one now yeah yeah. that's yeah that's not d That's That. should be an option somebody should make. a just for stand up for for one of those. things I I I would love it I would love.

Yeah but most Comics don't use them most. Comics just write things down like you. ever seen Mark Norman stack no it's. crazy he's got to stack like a [ __ ]. like a phone book like that thick of. index cards and napkins that he keeps in. his pocket and he's so crazy like you. try to read it you like it's literally. like an insane person you're like. cuz is illegible yeah and there's no. order to them there's just Stacks I mean. he might how many how many did he have. in his pocket. 150 probably easy way more than that 200.

200 index cards what do you you go how. do you go here's what I'm going to do. tonight card 167 to one no it's a it's a. window into the madness that is the. Brilliance of his comedy it's just all I. remember Richard Lewis would would uh. throw out I mean like there' be a piano. up there and he threw out like a scroll. of like it was like just you know legal. pads of paper and thing like crazy stuff. all over set it all up and it's like he. was a little nuts he was nuts with that.

yeah that was also part of his thing. right there's Norman's look at Norman's. stack look at that look at that what. yeah I can't believe you carry this. around with you you're going to get a. bad. back I'm worried about his. back but you you can get a bad back from. that lot of it's like sitting on a fat. wallet exactly tax drivers if they have. too much [ __ ] in their wallet you'll. you'll you'll have a little bit of a.

lean you'll get a bulge in your back I. could never do it I could never I don't. even know what I need to have it. organized yeah just yeah you were always. an organized guy like even back in the. day I admire that I think that's a very. important thing that some Comics feel. like they don't have to do and you don't. have to do it some of the greats don't. write anything down don't get me wrong. but I feel like when I write if I just. physically write there's jokes that I. will get that I won't get if I don't. physically write and not a few of them.

like a lot of them like some of my best. bits ever came from sitting down and. writing do you find if you write the bit. out physically write it out that you. will remember it better. too or Not by hand yeah if you write it. by hand you remember better that's. proven so if I do an arena I got this. from you by the way I got this from you. because uh I'm not doing it anymore I. need to no this is this is what I got. from you because I didn't have a rider. because I'm lazy so when I would go do.

theaters they would just use Kevin James. Rider so when I would cuz we're the same. manager yes so we're the same manager I. was like what shimmy eating like did you. see that yeah it was like all normal. stuff and like whatever like maybe I. added whiskey to it or whatever it was. but uh one thing you had was index cards. yeah and Sharpie I was like oh that's a. great idea so every time I do an arena. now I set up index cards and I will get. there hour early and write out all my. bits write out all like the the the key.

points of the bits all the things I want. to talk about and set that there and. then next bit set that there and so I. have this coffee table and I've got all. these things index why don't you do a. promp or something like that you don't. want to do a no no no no I don't need. that I'm fine once I once I write it all. out I've been doing it every night every. night it's like I just like to do that. as an extra little detail just an extra. little just just really dotting all your. eyes and Crossing all your teeth so I.

feel good when I get out there I don't. know if it's I'm losing my memory you. know whatever it but it's like I need a. I need bullet points up there it's let. me get you some of this do you take any. tropics I take nothing okay this is what. you're going to get I'm I'm going to. give you this just take this one and. I'll get you some more I'll send you. some more that's alpab brain that's uh. on it the Black Label Alpha Brain that. is the the top of the food chain Alpha. Brain the strongest one am I going to. see unicorns no no no no no no it just. it helps memory it's really good for.

memory and it's really good for uh focus. it just it gives you like a little extra. juice mentally now if you're [ __ ]. you're not going to notice it like I try. [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] snake oil trust me. as someone who makes a living using his. brain there's certain things that you. can take that are not bad for you that. are just nutrients that enhance brain. function you know another one is. creatine. creatine creatine's okay it's okay to do. that oh yeah creatine's very safe.

creatine's one of the one of the safest. supplements um it's also uh what does. that do though it gives you it's well it. adds water to your body your your body. has more water and that's one of the. functions of it and it's one of the. reasons why it makes your muscles look. bigger it makes you stronger it really. does work as a like a a fitness. supplement like as a like if you're. training lifting weights creatine is one. of the very best things you could take. creatine I would say beta alanine that's. another one but I got to I got to give. you this thing that Weidman gave me.

these herbal pills completely natural he. gave me we were playing golf in I forget. we're Atlanta or whatever it was with DC. Cormier was there it was just the the. three of us went out and I was you know. I get up in the morning my back is. killing me my everything my joints are. hurting I I I get to the course you know. you walking around Hills up and down all. day you know I'm like I'm I'm going to. be so gone in this thing and wein says. take a couple of these you know pills. you got these things they're complete.

herbal and you know what is it it's. ashwag like it's I don't know but it's. what the key with this stuff is I said. why you know because he gave it to me. and he says just do me a favor Mark. right now where you feel how you feel. how you're join I feel horrible my knees. are killing my ankles everything I feel. everything my back you swing in a golf. club that's it's brutal so he goes and. just take three and tell me how you feel. in like you know in a few hours or. whatever it was and I forgot about it. and around the ninth hole but I swear.

I'm I'm around the turn I'm I'm it's a. couple hours later I'm going I feel. amazing for some like all the joints you. know like uh like the Jiu-Jitsu finger. thing when you get when you first come. back and it's like that pain I had all. that joint pain and and and it was gone. I was literally pummeling with DC I'm. like come on let's go man I felt amazing. I go I go it's the pills I go this is. insane I go can you give me and DC tried. them too and DC said I haven't wrestled. in a long time he goes he tried them he.

goes I love like I want to know I know. nothing I I go I'm trying to figure out. this is a placebo effect or what it was. he gave it to me again same thing felt. amazing so does Weidman have those on. his Instagram can we find out what that. stuff is I'm I want to literally I don't. go into business with any I want to I. want in on this thing whatever it is. dude I'm going to give you I have some. try three yes just try it just Mark how. you feel if you have any paint cuz if. you go ah I felt nothing it might be the. case but these things it I'm I did it a.

few time and they ran out of he couldn't. get them and then he got them again. everybody he's given how long before. they make that illegal whatever it is I. know they just made bpc 157 illegal it's. it's the I'm telling you I'm I'm I'm out. of shape now it is literally the only. thing that gets me up and I'm like whoa. I could I could work out I could do it. really I took them I again I want to. know what's in there yeah I'll I'll find. out from him um it's all natural stuff. but the thing about it is speed's. natural too you know H I don't know it's. all coming from the earth I know.

everything's natural the key what they. said in these things like the guy throws. out like CU When you get even if you get. ashwaganda the active ingredient in it. will you know it like once it's G people. sell it anyway and it's like dust it's. like crap in there he doesn't use he. throws out like 70% of the stuff he said. and I was like I don't know I don't care. what it is I just want it I want to give. it to my family because I I want to feel. better you know I'm just an older guy. feel you know yeah I'm you got to help.

me with that working I'm telling you I. am literally right now I feel like I am. on the cusp of either you know being. that athletic guy you know go back into. where you know I get in shape like crazy. or I'm wearing cardigan sweaters and. literally you know. Grandpa all good well just get a trainer. I can't I'm doing a documentary right. now yeah and I started it in January. I'm assembling the best guys like like. Dolce is going to help me out with this.

thing he's awesome we already did one we. already did a documentary I did it on uh. it was called cheat day where I thought. you could work out like six days a week. and just have one day to eat what you. you you want and just do it that way and. I had DOL come in and and and and be on. be in it with me and and work me out and. do it and he kept going you're not. you're not going to be able to do this. and I go why because he goes you're one. day is going to destroy everything you. said and I remember this he goes you. can't outwork a bad diet and he was.

right it was like I would crush it so. hard like people don't know what I can. eat like you know I'm you know what I'm. saying you know like when people go I'm. a foodie you know like it's like you. have no idea how much I can Crush food. and that one day would just destroy it. for the rest yeah the the food thing is. you can't outrun a bad diet you just. can't you can't it's the best phrase. it's real that's that's where it all. comes from it all comes from food and.

we're all addicted to food and it's the. craziest thing if you're addicted to. food because you have to eat it it's not. like heroin like if you're addicted to. heroin like oh I've got a heroin problem. but I'm going to take a little bit of. heroin right no you're going to go full. bore again you're you're going to be. [ __ ] it's like it's one of the very. few things where you're addicted to it. and you got to not be addicted to it. anymore but yet you still need to eat it. well what that's crazy that's a crazy. conundrum and most people's minds can't. really process that that's right and I I.

can't I just I can't cuz he he he's. given me the diet do you know just do. this this and this and this you know. it's form me it's very simple I mean by. the way does every who who needs some. another grown man to tell you what to. eat you know by now you know seriously. you know and same thing with working out. you don't know move your body whatever. it is do you you know what to do you may. not know the intricate stuff of like. split squats and this and that work this. thing and but. General Health you know what I got to. move my body more eat better Foods less.

processed we know it but yet man I can't. that's what this documentary I'm doing. about it's like why I have access to the. greatest guys why can't I still do it. it's like and part of it is I need the. goggin you know yeah you need a hype man. you do you need someone around you who's. also doing it well that's it it's. Community I don't have that it's like. when I'm with Dolce if we're on a movie. together or do something he's got me in. shape he's giving me the meals and you. know when I'm My Own Captain I'm homeboy.

I'm gone I'm just gone you know one. thing that you can try uh that I. guarantee will help you lose weight is. the carnivore diet because if you do it. the one thing that you're going to not. eat is any carbohydrates you're only. going to eat meat and if you cut out all. bread all pasta all sugar all [ __ ]. I'm not saying this is a great diet I'm. not saying this is way to live I'm. saying this is the best way for me to. eat I've done every other kind of diet.

this one works the best for me and it's. the one that keeps me lean cuz when you. eating just protein your body hits a. satiety level if you're just eating. steak just steak your body will hit a. level and you go this is all I need and. then you won't want to eat more but if. I'm in that same mind space and there's. steak there but it's next to mashed. potatoes with gravy a bowl of pasta ice. cream then I'm going to keep going and. I'm going to get another 7,000 calories.

I'm going to keep going but if I just. eat the steak then my body starts. processing ketones I start instead of. using carbohydrates I'm only eating. protein and fats your body goes into. like a a ketogenic State you think. better gives you an extra Gear with. thinking the ketogentic thing is I mean. that for me is worked it's CU DOL will. hate me for saying like like he's like. you know when they say blueberry you. know you know carbs he's he he's like.

carbs are fine for you like the right. carbs there's nothing wrong with carbs. it's a fuel for your body but what I'm. saying is if you're trying to lose. weight one of the best ways to regulate. your appetite is a carnivore diet. because you don't overeat with it but I. think it's deeper than that for me I. think it's mental I think it's like. anything will work I fasted that you. know like I've done everything you know. it it all works for a while but why am I. the size now you know I'm you know every. time I'm like you know just recently I.

started stop comparing myself to other. people and trying to like just say get. better than yourself yesterday literally. that that concept for me works it's like. when I'm in there CU he'll give me. workouts adul to do too and I can't do I. don't do them I can't do the Reps four. sets of 16 I get so bored by myself like. I start doing my own stuff I'll do. eclectic stuff great stuff on a. treadmill all movement stuff like I love. it just throwing punches doing things. but I walk around and then there's no.

way to measure it though because the. next day I'm not doing that I'm you know. so it's like I'm the guy who walks up to. the bag hits the bag a couple times then. walks oh look at this thing I got I have. every piece of equipment in in in in my. gym I do if you if you saw my gym you go. the rock live here you know it's like. literally it's like they see me and. they're like what are you doing it's. like I buy everything cuz I buy into it. I'm like because it's a piece of Hope. yeah that's what it is right right a. treadmill is a little piece of hope it's.

a hope a new thing like I got the uh. Jacob's Ladder I go oh it's great it's. Jiu-Jitsu you're grabbing the ring this. is great functional yeah it's collecting. dust is what it's doing it really I cuz. I don't use it so I need something. that's what this thing is what can get. me cuz I am like most people I'm telling. you you don't need a lot of stuff but. you need something to engage yourself. every day there's got to be a bridge. between what the goggin we and people. who do nothing like you got to get that. like you I I saw you were doing this. with the other comedians which I love.

you know it's like where you go I just. want him to walk or just get him down. get that is so important man because. it's like if you can get into that. Groove you do feel better like that's. what blows my mind I've gotten in shape. a couple times and I'm like I don't need. to eat any more crap I don't I love the. working I love the way I feel and then. it slides right back what happens well. it's in it's one of the things about you. that makes you really funny is you're. indulg you're just you're a wild dude. who's like trying to stay buttoned up. it's like part of what's really funny.

about you and that Indulgence it it it. goes into other things and for you it's. food right you know luckily it's not. gambling or something like really crazy. right you know but I don't I I quit. things too like like like I feel like I. have the same almost intensity that you. have but I'm not a finisher like I. don't get really things we started. Jiu-Jitsu did we start at the same time. yeah basically the same time Beverly. Hills jiujitsu right like you were the. one brought me down there yeah I'm a.

blue. belt and and barely 30 it's like 30 you. know what I'm saying it's like cuz I. start stop I don't you know what I'm. saying and that's in my head I'm like ah. if I would have done what Joe did man. look where I could have been and I you. know I'm trying to you know why do and. then I start comparing like you can do. it now you do it and I if if I play that. game I'm done cuz I can never catch up. to other people a lot of it like learn. Behavior patterns you just have you get. stuck in and if you're unlucky you can.

get a bad behavior pattern or constantly. quitting things right but if you're. lucky you could look I got very lucky. that when I was 15 I got obsessed with. martial arts right because that was the. first thing I ever did in my life where. I didn't think I was a loser anymore I. was like I realize that if you work. really hard at something and you're. completely obsessed with something it. could transform your life so my my life. from the time I was 15 to the time I was.

18 I was a different human MH from 14 15. I was insecure I'd get bad social. anxiety we moved around a lot I get. picked on a lot and I went from that to. being completely confident being just a. different human being I was fighting all. the time it wasn't like to me the the. fear of like conflict was pretty much. gone cuz I was just engaging in Conflict. all over the country I was flying around.

my whole High School all my time so I. got in my head that the way to feel. better and to get life to improve is to. just [ __ ] dig in and keep going and. don't ever quit don't [ __ ] quit. that's so great but I got lucky that. that's something that I fell into when I. was 15 I often think about you know. there was one day dude one day when I. was coming home from a baseball game. where I walked up the stairs we were.

getting ready to ride the te which is. like the Boston Subway system and we. were getting ready to ride the tea but. the line after the the baseball game was. like really long there was so many. people that were on the tea so we just. for a goof walked up the stairs to see. this Taekwondo school and as we were. walking up the stairs this guy John Lee. who was a national champion at the time. was preparing for the World Cup and he. was like 28 years old he was in his. prime and he was kicking this bag and as. I was going up the stairs I was hearing. W and then the sound of a chain.

like and I went up and watched this guy. kick the bag and I was like what the. [ __ ] kick kicking the pole yeah yeah and. I was I was just I was like I want to. learn how to do that right and I was. there the next day I signed up I I had. enough money to pay for the class I. signed up and I was there every day from. then on I was there every day I mean. every day I worked out every day of the. week I worked out Sunday I worked out.

every day I never took time off I was. there for hours every day I just eat. food go there and I'll be starving by. the time I left and then head home and. go back again that's you're blessed. brother because you you have something. that most people don't have that they. don't have that like you have everybody. has the intensity in the beginning you. know when they see something they like I. want to do this I want to say I do like. every I get all pumped up I'm like this. is it this is all I want to do and then. it's like you don't want to suffer you.

don't want to put the you know the work. in that's the difference between we we. both love Jiu-Jitsu well to love. something you gotta you you got to know. it you have to know it right you can't. love something you don't know well I. love it but you know what I don't love. obviously I don't love the mornings. getting the ghee cold ghee on you know. there's things about getting in with a. you know what I'm saying getting on the. mats they're sweaty they've been there. since like 5:00 in the morning I got. travel to do it uh it's going to hurt. these guys are coming after me you know. it's like you know you're in there and.

it's I'm nervous and my so I stop like I. I I get back into it you know I'll I'll. let it go for a while you do you go. through that and you become you know you. overcome those little things and it's. like that's how you grow it's like I get. right up to the edge of it and then I'm. like ah I just so I don't love it as. much as you it's like you have to you. have to you commit you have to suffer. you have to you know that's the only way. you're going to show your love for. anything is you you got to suffer for it. there's got to be that you got overcome.

that otherwise you you don't you you die. you know you you have two PE everybody. has two people inside of them everybody. has the person inside of them that wants. to go to sleep the person inside of him. that wants to quit that guy's winning by. the way that's the guy who's you see. before you right now and the other guy. that's like no this is what you need to. do the problem is with a lot of people. that other guy that's like no that's. that's what you need to do that person's. really timid and that person they they. just well maybe it'd be better if we.

just went for a run like shut the [ __ ]. up I'm going to eat chips right and that. that timid version of you is what you. need to cultivate into being like the. boss that's the boss so I have a boss my. boss is that voice I let that Voice win. every time I love it that voice says. shut the [ __ ] up and get in the cold. water [ __ ] that's dying to your man. that's literally saying I'm not going to. where I'm comfortable I'm going to you.

I'd much rather do this I'm sure you'd. you know much rather do something and. jump in a cold plunge every you know get. a cup of coffee and go hang out and talk. you. know you do that and that's something I. need to do more and more like like we. all do it's like it's the only way. you're going to embrace it and and get. better at things I'm trying literally. with flying like I used to I drive. everywhere these gigs and it was getting. so much that I'm like I'm afraid of. flying but I'm like I gotta just die to. myself just do this have faith you're. gonna be fine just do it and each time.

you do it you're like all right we did. it yeah and you have a bad flight you're. like I'm not G doing again you know but. it's like you know it's you just got to. give the boss some strength yes yeah and. the the boss the boss has to win a bunch. of battles and when the boss wins a. bunch of battles and he wins them every. day then eventually the boss becomes a. louder voice and then you get get it to. the point where the the boss gets to. tell you what to do and you don't. deviate and even though you have all the. feelings every time I lift the lid on. the coal plunge I'm like let's not do. this every time and but the boss is like.

shut the [ __ ] up the boss gets mad if. those voices pop up so like I'll make. you do an extra minute [ __ ] get the. [ __ ] in there love it and you know. there's two pieces of advice I always. give Comics or or just young men in. general aspire to be the person you. pretend to be when you're trying to get. laid Yeah just be that person instead of. pretending to be that person be become. that person right become a person that. you would admire you can do it's. possible to do if you can pretend to be.

that person you can actually be that. person right aspire to be that person. and then the second one is live your. life like a documentary crew is. following you around live your life like. is if you wanted the whole world to go. wow that guy's really killing it like I. love the way that guy handles things I. love and then you're not going to you're. going to fail you're going to [ __ ] up. you're going to you're a human. everyone's going to going to fall into a. like God what a loser I. am just go back with the same ethic get.

back into it with the same mindset live. your life like a documentary crw is. following you around everywhere how. would you want to be seen who well be. that person actually be that person. become that person you can become that. person it's funny we're doing that now. and it's like i' we started in January. and I'm I've I don't know I think I. might have went up four pounds I don't. even know like it's like you know cuz. I've go down and then it's like but. you're right you're right and we want. I'm going to show it all you know. because that's what it is it's the.

struggle it's the process dude you just. need a hype man if we were neighbors oh. buddy by the way I love Austin I'm. coming here I want I would be here every. day [ __ ] move here move here the. club's always very available you'll have. fun great place to work out come here to. my gym we can work out together am man. come we got a beautiful gym here dude I. think I'm just going to rip my kids out. of school and we're going let's just do. it it's great here man really is great. here the people are so friendly you got. the the way they treat like Freedom here. is like a religion freedom is a.

different thing in Texas they they are. not interested in controlling your you. know like what you buy and where you go. and what you do on your land you can own. zebra they don't give a [ __ ] there's. more wild tigers or there's more Tigers. actual tigers in captivity in private. collections in Texas than there are of. all of the wild of the world. that's. insane well you just sold me I need.

zebras and tigers they have I I drove by. a place the other day that had giraffes. people have giraffes that's you could. have whatever the [ __ ] you want if it's. your land they just leave you alone. they're like this is your land you do. whatever you want you know and they love. and and the the comedy here they love. it's booming I went I got my beard. trimmed at a place just yesterday and. they were talking about the mother [ __ ]. like they go and it's great this the. it's a whole different vibe here and. everybody's great and I'm like really.

and he was like oh yeah well this is the. first time in our lives where a scene. emerged there was kind of a little bit. of a scene here in Austin there was a. few clubs a few Comics some good Comics. came out of Austin for sure but there. was no real scene where a bunch of. Assassins lived in town and now there. like Shane Gillis lives here Duncan. Trussell lives here Tom sagur lives here. pitsky lives here Tony hinchliff lives. here David Lucas lives here it's like.

holy [ __ ] Brian Simpson lives here Tim. Dylan lives here he's got a house he's. got multiple houses he lives everywhere. but there's so many killers here it's. just every night you go to that club and. it's just packed with great comedy you. know what it is I'm telling you it's. Community yeah I don't have that like. like when I'm I have it in you know. little bursts when I'm with people on a. movie set or whatever it is but it's. like I don't have that in my everyday. life I need that I think I really think. that's a big thing I really cuz I need.

the hype man I need but I need you know. to be in that group where you just start. doing it I did one one uh training camp. with wman and those guys you know. earlier on and uh with aljo and and. these guys and you know I uh just jumped. in with them and it's like I was with. them for I don't know a few weeks three. weeks you know and then I had to go out. but it was like you developed this. brother. yes it was so much fun it was you know. going through everything you're eating. together you're running Sprints together.

and I was like w this is really really. cool that's what that's one of the great. things about fight teams especially like. uh Sarah Longo it's like those guys are. so tight they're all friends always such. a tight and they got so many killers. there too Jesus Christ aljo Mor this is. the funniest thing ever I came my first. day on the camp whatever and they were. sparring in in the octagon and I had my. headgear on and everybody's pairing with. everybody you know just in W been go you. know when Longo setting it up just you. guys go with you guys everybody and.

switch it around this and that and I was. like worried cuz I go Chris I don't want. to go in with you know get in there get. in just mix it up and I'm going I I'm. I'm not even a fighter I'm I can't do. this you know whatever I got in there. everybody else aljo knows me you know. you know these guys know me morab thinks. I'm a fat old fighter like he thinks he. doesn't know any I get the headgear on. he does recognize me as an actor and he. starts going he starts dancing around. I'm going whoa I know right away he. doesn't he doesn't know I'm not you know. I'm an outside guy he thinks I'm a guy. in the camp and he just starts going.

crazy and I go W my God and I'm whole. punches and this guy's moving around. like crazy on me and I'm like I'm. looking for widman and it was it was. amaz he was the sweetest guy ever but I. got lit up by him in two second I go I. take it off I go I'm an actor man that. guy does not get tired nothing he's wild. to watch he see him with Henry cejudo. he's got Henry cejudo picked up over his. shoulders and he's talking and he walks. him over towards Mark. Zuckerberg he's it's Henry zudo that's. an Olympic gold medalist and you're.

carrying him around like he's a kid on a. schoolyard who [ __ ] up it's a. different breed man oh man he's an. animal Mor Rob is an animal and the. sweetest guy once you know the he really. the best I love that dude and everybody. loves him like the response he gets from. the audience he people love him his last. speech was so ridiculous when he wins he. just gets so fired up he's amazing then. [ __ ] love morab man they love look at. that look at him that's Henry cejudo. dude you have to understand how crazy it.

is that he's carrying around that guy on. his back like that guy smile yeah I mean. two division UFC champion he won the. flyweight medal the the flyweight belt. and he won the bantamweight belt and mor. Rob is literally toying with him he's. smiling and carrying him I mean that's. that is so wild to see that was one of. the most shocking things I mean I've. seen a lot of shocking things of people. getting knocked out I've seen a lot of. things but to see someone treat Henry.

cejudo like that carry him around like. that laughing with a smile on his face. was like oh now I could say I spar with. that guy there you. go but yeah that camaraderie we we. needed as Comics like that's why we. opened up the club we opened up the club. because we realized that one of the. functions that The Comedy Store had for. all of us it was home base we had a home. base and it was a great old Club this. amazing history and we were proud to be. a part of it and so we'd all get. together and we were proud We were comic.

store Comics it was fun you go out on. the road you come back home and we back. at the store yeah and some of the best. shows that we would have all year would. be like Tuesday night Wednesday night. shows at the store we'd go there and it. was just so fun and everybody's just so. happy to be around each other other. comedians just have fun and talk about. jokes and talk about standup and then. when we came out here I was like well. there's no Home Base there's no Home B. we did the Vulcan but it's not set up. good for a green room I was like we need. a real home base and then I started. looking I started looking right away and.

uh the first place I bought was a cult. theater was owned by a cult that fell. apart and then uh we got this. opportunity to get that place on Sixth. Street and I was like all right this is. it and then we just started building and. it's better than I ever could have hoped. it's it's a real Community now like you. go into that green room and there's like. [ __ ] 20 dudes in there just talking. laughing having. fun sod's there and Lewis is there it's. like people from the road guys from New.

York guys from La people are coming in. out of town every week it's fun man I. miss that man because I I don't have I. have it when Sandler goes on tour and he. he he'll bring me out and and I go with. him and it's just so much fun it's so. much fun man it's you know that's what. we're missing you know if you're the guy. who just does the theaters and you know. you're with your family all week and. then you have your opening act you go on. the road exct it's not the same. experience it's not I've been that for. years that's the guy I am you know and I. miss it.

man I really do come to Texas Jimmy I. know come on buddy I got you you got to. once I take this it's a good place to. live Alpha Brain man it's going to. change everything I want to take those. widman pills do we find out what the. [ __ ] they are I'm I'm going to bring. them into I have some just try them and. and be are you going to be honest I'm. going to try them right away I can't. wait to try them in my mind I've already. tried it. they had me wrestling DC that's. ridiculous wrestling DC and playing golf.

that was the funest I go in to Pummel. him just messing around while he's. holding the golf club and you just feel. you're like oh my gosh he's a bear oh my. gosh yeah DC's a. bear div two Division champion man you. get you almost like you're playing with. him but you get scared it was like how. it was with with boss when you you. introduced me to you got me to boss when. I met boss I remember I first had it was. just the King of Queens started and uh I. was like we could have this guy come and.

train us this guy that we used to watch. you know yeah what was it on uh panra. and he had the high boots and stuff like. that and then I was like Whoa man we can. get this guy to to the you know to our. dressing and we could work out with him. I had a little space on on the set where. you know we would train and I brought. him in that first day and he couldn't. even speak English it was me and rock. you know and I think my brother was. there and uh they I'm talking to him and. trying to keep the conversation going. you know like that he's just sitting. here like he doesn't even know what's. going on really just looking at me and.

then those guys left the room and I felt. like I was in the room with like a. leopard you know like where you go where. you're feed as long as you're feeding it. conversation stuff it's okay keeps. eating it and then looks at you again he. was just looking at me and I ran out of. conversation I ran out of conversation. I'm like all right so uh and he's just. looking at me I'm like this is a. different human in front of me you know. especi back then oh gosh things could go. bad yeah boss was a scary dude dude in. his fighting days he was the first guy. that the UFC hired um that I got excited.

about right because uh he was a guy that. I I knew who he was cuz I had seen him. fighting pancre and he was one of the. very first highlevel Strikers that made. it into MMA that Dutch kicks kickboxing. style we this here oh yeah in pancreas. they you'd have to hit with the palms. and boss figured out that instead of. [ __ ] slapping people you just spear. them with your palm like a punch spear. him and he would say he would hit this. part of the wrist he would say as. opposed to even the Palm he the bone his.

bone and he would work the bag mhm yeah. he worked the bag with his palms to. develop that power and he had this crazy. ability to pull his hand back like his. hand like my hand doesn't really go much. back further than that but boss's hand. goes way back like this well he's got. freaky long fingers crazy hands weird. he's a weird he's a real freak every. injury I have to this day from turf toe. and I came from him you know I because. when I he's the greatest guy in the. world by the way once we got to know. each other and he's awesome he's one of.

my best friends and he's he's we threw. mat's in my garage in in in Ceno I. remember and he would come over and. train me and you know we would start on. our knees and stuff like that and I. remember one time uh we would just start. on our knees and we were locked up and I. remember I outmuscled him and I pulled. him to the side and then two seconds. later he reversed me you know I was like. whoo but I got him right there that was. pretty sick you know and the next go we. had he pushed he goes you don't have. like he he rolled me back and I heard a. pop and I thought it was my knee but it.

was my toe my big toe oh no tur toe for. still here still really yeah yeah never. got rid of it so these pills help these. pills help that P for everything these. pills should be in the back of a wagon. dude I'm this is for everything I got to. find a way diarhea gar I just want to. make sure you cuz you nobody's you're. going to be like dude they do nothing I. love that I bet they do. something I guarantee if you're having. that kind of an experience with them.

they do something I just wish I knew. what they were it's. I well I'll I'll find it out for you I. don't want to do it now when we don't. have it why don't you go grab them go. grab them and bring them in here I want. to know what they are otherwise we'll be. you look at it know what they are yeah. well is it just the Pill by themselves. it's a pill by themselves oh there's no. bottle no sketchy no no no it's not. sketchy [ __ ] just not sketchy I promise. you it's not sketchy no no no because it. was a I'm telling you we will figure it. out just you you're going to love this.

stuff yeah I don't know about all this. no I think you. will you and I will sit down with this. stuff with why man and we'll we'll going. to I'm telling you we're going to save. the world with this. stuff it's an if an old man is telling. you this I am you know yeah I'm telling. you it's the one thing it's like we're. both old now is that wild remember we. were kids never thought you going to be. an old man never never how am I going to. be an old man how's that possible I'm a. young guy I'm always a young still it's. exactly it also you never got beaten. down by life right right because you.

have a great job it's like if you if you. have a job that sucks you can get beaten. down by life oh but if you have a job. like we have we enjoy our job it's like. a thing it is what we do for work but. it's also what we enjoy right and it is. work but it's fun it's great there's. nothing you know the stress the stress. in work is different yeah but they say. You're only as happy as your least happy. kid right I mean that's oh that's true. that's true so it's like got that going. on it always bounces it out where you're. like man the greatest life here ever and. then it's like oh my gosh I got to deal.

with this you know yeah and you know. it's not easy for kids no like. especially today with social media and. the just the weirdness of the world and. I mean if you're a [ __ ] kid today. you're a 15-year-old kid and you're in. high school and you see what what the. president is you're like what right. that's the guy running the world. like what is happening yeah is how crazy. is this and then you you've just gone. through covid so everyone's confused. like what happened was I locked up for. two years like what happened and now.

here you are you're about to make it out. there in the world and you're on social. media all the time like it's a tough. ride for kids today it is a very very. very tough ride with new challenges that. we never had to experience dude I my. oldest daughter is on the Spectrum and. you know so we we started seeing uh you. know this anxiety and this disconnection. and it was she developed you know. uh these ticks you know I mean like. really bad where she started like. hitting herself you know like couldn't.

uncontrollable and she's a big strong. girl you know uh she was about I think. 16 15 at the time and you know I. remember I mean it was so scary for me. that I had to lay on her at night and. hold her down and I you know I'm pretty. sure she was hitting so hard and she's. apologizing she's like I'm sorry you. know like I'm I'm like what are you. kidding me it was just it broke my heart. so we brought her to the hospital we. went to Theos Hospital find out what we. didn't even know what this was and uh. you know we where it was coming from uh.

so they they got her to calm down and. and uh she was still ticking and stuff. and I talked to the neurologist is that. what it is I guess I don't know the. doctor you know and I go what is this. what can we do and and and he said he. basically said she's developed these. ticks it's like you know this is. something you're just going to have to. learn to deal with for you know you're. going to have a child like this you have. to prepare yourself that you and your. wife are going to have to you know deal. with this for the rest of your life this. way and I was like there's got to be a. different way he's like there's no way.

of really we don't know you know and I. just I went oh man it crushed me so it. was like me and my wife were like what. do we do and my wife read this book she. was just doing all this crazy research. and she found this book disconnected. kids and it was by Dr Robert Malo so you. know I I I got involved with him I. called him and he literally took my. daughter he goes I know what this is he. goes it's okay. uh he he says uh I can work with her and. we were just out of like we were lost we.

didn't know what to do I mean I mean I. mean violent you know it was like oof um. so we took it to to this doctor and. within two weeks no drugs anything two. weeks ticks were gone and he said. they're going to still be there they'll. going to come up every once in a while. but he fixed her man and I'm like whoa. it blew my mind man it's like so I I was. like I just want to give other parents. hope and and and and I I I knew another. guy who had a daughter who's severely. autistic and uh you know she was.

non-verbal and you know you know violent. too and he said he he he goes I will and. he worked with them and and she's. getting so much better and now and. speaking and uh it's an amazing thing. this guy does he's great how is he doing. it what is he doing I I don't know at. all you know he's he he works with the. brain waves and and um again not a. doctor but there's no you know. medication in there uh involved which I. was very important cuz that's what they. were recommending at the hospital just. put her on some medication I'm like and.

turn her into a zombie exactly I I can't. do that and she's so much better now she. still has the ticks every once in a. while you know but she's great she's. connected he gets her connected he does. all these like brain things and he works. with the you know and how it all ties. into the the the motor you know whatever. that is so fascinating it's it it is and. uh he's another guy who's like I really. uh is this it I've been told via your. assistant this is what it is there's no. name for it apparently no name for it.

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shalet uh gura and sunti oh boy well but. that's a mouthful a't it I think this. it's not that the ingredients are that. unique I think it's the fact that the. way they do it is I don't know that he. says he doesn't use anything that's been. like he throws out a majority of it. which is that's why it's hard to come by. and it's like active ingredients for. everything you they could sell you all. the stuff but if you don't get it from. the right place you know it's it's just.

not going to do anything whatever it is. I give it to you really okay I'm. interested I've never tried ashwag Ganda. here's something that has the same in. I'm not saying this is it this just has. the same 650 herbal supplement the same. ingredients healthy skelet muscular. response um maintain healthy skele. skeletomuscular system okay. interesting give it a send me that send. me that Jamie that has the same.

ingredients I mean I literally copied. and pasted and Googled they're showing. the same thing same dosage that looked. like a [ __ ] it could be low redage. company try try it okay that I know. nothing I'm G to try it thank you I'm. excited and I'm excited to try this give. it to everybody I need this anybody who. like I just for me I want it for me yeah. and I. know I'm not gonna you know if it does. if it I I sense the be like I'm not if. it's not working it's not working you go.

website if it if it works for me do has. it yes okay that might be it it must be. it must be it if it's on his website. that's it INF 650 okay um but. uh yeah it's it was it works herbs work. there's a lot of them that work yeah. some of them are really good it's that's. interesting about pharmaceutical drugs. is the vast majority of them are sourced. originally from Plants a lot of them. from the Amazon they've come up with a.

bunch of different pharmaceutical drugs. just from based on compounds they found. on the. Amazon yeah I don't even know I. just I I know nothing about this stuff. so when you started doing this. documentary what was the purpose to find. out the the process cuz it's like I've. I've I'm going to do a movie right now. like every time I'm I try to get in. shape it's always like always have to. get in shape it's almost like you know a. fighter who fights and then gets so out. of shape again it's like well that's it.

I mean I shot a. movie two years ago where I play an. exorcist priest like like and I wanted. it to be like it was really crazy hard. like legit story so I wanted to be look. a little different be you know uh right. in the part and just have a different. character so I got down to 230 I I. really worked hard you know like that's. low for me and uh shot it and thought we. were done with it and I got to pick up a. couple. scenes I'm.

280 no dude I'm G to have to look like. either right in this priest got stung by. a bee and it just swelled up to or or I. got to get in shape for it so I got to. get in shape for it I got to get back. down to that again how much time did you. have I have as much as I you know I. we'll shoot it when I'm ready but it's. like it's waiting there to do a couple. scenes pounds how long does it take you. for to lose 50 I could lose it really. quick I could fast and lose it seriously. I can lose it. in I could I could lose it quick like. how many weeks for.

50 I could do it in a month what that. sounds so insane less than a month I. could do yeah 50 lbs. um that's amazing I can do it fast. fasting just not you know but that's. nothing must feel like [ __ ] though no no. no when I fast I didn't you know how. many days have you fast in a row you. don't you don't want to know how many. days 41 and. A2 what 41 and A2 you went 41 days with.

no food. water and and a little salt in the water. like a little electrolytes and I lost. wow yeah see when I lock on I can do. something oh I know that but that's a. crazy lock on 41 days how was fasting. for it was mental it was like I I I felt. so bad for my daughter I said I'm going. to do this for you is something that I. could do you know know and apply it to. and it was like so emotionally tied into. me and I started fasting and I go I. didn't I didn't say I'm going to do 40.

days I just said I'm going to do. whatever I can I'm going to start. fasting right now and I was praying for. her like I mean I was worried and I did. like four or five days and I was getting. through it but I was like I was wanting. to get off it then I was like well I got. to start to eat because I'm really. hungry and I went and I I I I talk to my. daughter I go how are you feeling she. goes I've been feeling good she goes. have you been fasting for me and I go. yeah and she goes thank you so much and. I literally went okay I got to keep. going I'm I couldn't stop then so I just. kept going day at a day at a time you.

know just do it but it's amazing how. your body you don't need it you don't. need food as long as you have fat on you. like that like for me I lost I think. like 60 lbs wow yeah yeah there's that. guy that was in the 1960s right Jamie. that one dude um he fasted for 360. something he was really big right yeah. yeah you can is just take uh IV vitamins. water and vitamins I didn't even take.

vitamin like you don't need anything you. know and I felt you took no vitamins. nothing wow but you know it. was it it cleansed everything out of me. like I'm not saying it's the way to go. for everybody you know like I don't I. don't know again not a there's. definitely some health benefits to. fasting especially short-term fasting. well they but if you're big and you can. do it why not that's it it's like well. how are you going to survive your body. eats fat that's it that's what it was. doing it was surv you probably had good. energy I I was pretty good for you know.

a while and then you'd have these dips. and you know you you'd feel like wow I. feel miserable I'm going I'm off I'm. done and then you fight through it and. you like the next day you wake up you're. like I'm okay again you know it's like. keep going just keep going your body. just says all right this is what we're. dealing with we're eating fat I. literally wrapped up the 41 and A2 days. at you're going to crack up I went to. Pizza University which is a un learn how. to make pizzas and I didn't even I. forgot I had booked it and I'm like oh. my gosh and I go I'm not going to kill. it while I'm there it was a 3-day course.

where you get like a little diploma I. wanted to know how to make the dough and. everything like that and uh I went oh no. there Falls within my diet I just wanted. to make it past 40 days and uh I went. down there and I did the whole thing and. I never ate a bite wow yeah so it was it. was crazy but then you blow back up to. this you know it's like it's so it's. like that's what the documentary is. about the documentary is about the. process and finding something where you. can help people with their health with. you know it is what you were talking.

about it's just get up and do something. walk do it a little bit more each day is. the key you know it's like when you. don't even notice it's happening and all. of a sudden you're this active and big. part of the key is having other people. to do it with that's one of the great. things about like you were saying. training with widman and those guys it's. like you're you're in a group of where. everybody else is working hard too and. it's contagious right it's you get. caught up in the momentum and it's great. and everybody comes out of there feeling. better and you all went through. something together yes that's it that. helps it's very hard to do it by.

yourself it's very hard it not only. helps it's like we need it I think we're. we're built for that we're made for that. Community you know yep 100% you 100 when. you don't have it it's it's hard yeah. it's not a good life if you don't have. it it's just not you don't want to be by. yourself you know like let's well you. always hear about those uh like Howard. Hughes type characters that by. themselves are scared of ger. [ __ ] from the world gets smaller and. smaller and smaller yeah the bigger you. get the world gets smaller and it's not.

good not good for you no yeah you could. lose your marbles got to come to Texas. Jimmy I'm coming I think I'm coming my. wife's hearing this she's going to hear. this for the first time but like I think. this is it yeah it's a great place to. live I look here in Florida and you know. is a great place to live it's fantastic. I again I've never spent time here in. Austin this was the I was here for a few. days writing and um I felt immediately. at home like the moment I moved here I. was like this is where I was supposed to. be like it made sense it made sense it's.

like of course T I thought you'd never. leave LA to I'm soad you that so cool. well I've been wanting to leave for a. while you know I tried Colorado a little. bit you moved out even from La further. out in the stick right in the Hills yeah. I was out in the Hills I was always. trying to be look I when I bought my. first house I bought my first house out. in the hills on like 4 Acres because I. was like I don't want to be around.

people I want quiet I want animals I. want I want to look out my window and. see a hawk fly by that's what I want to. see that's what I like you got that here. yeah but that's what I like I I don't. like I don't want to be overwhelmed by. people I don't think that's healthy for. you I don't and with me La just got. skety during Co it just got the George. Floyd riots I was like this is sketchy I. was watching a bunch of looting I saw. saw these kids break into a clothes. store I was like God damn it this is.

sketchy these cops can't do anything. they're they're overwhelmed and then. there's all this defund the police [ __ ]. going on and everywhere I would go I. would go like you'd see tense and I was. like this is a society that's falling. apart and if you don't get out now. you're going to get stuck in something. unrecognizable this is not what you. signed up for when when I lived in LA in. the 90s La was great was great kind of a. lot of traffic but other than that it. was cool great place to live all these. Comedians and artists and fun sunny out.

all the time yay we're in the right spot. but after covid after the George Floyd. rides I was like uh-uh I'm getting the. [ __ ] out of here and then just the. lockdowns and all the Ridiculousness and. the hypocrisy and just realizing you. have to pay attention to how [ __ ]. stupid the mayor is I I never paid. attention to the mayor I didn't give a. [ __ ] who the mayor. and then when comes along like oh that. guy's a real problem like these people. can become a real problems they can tell.

you you have to close your family. business you've had a business for 30. years this [ __ ] [ __ ] who shouldn't. be managing a [ __ ] Taco Bell is. managing the entire City's economy like. oh my God and then they went after him. too which is even great like black lives. matter was protesting in front of his. house like 30 days in a row I'm like. good that's what you get [ __ ] that's. what you yet it just turns on itself. evil just and then you you brought it. here and you planted these seeds and. look what's growing man it's just so.

amazing luckily a lot of other Comics. decided to move out here that was the. big one Ron White was the king he was. always here Ron White was here before he. Co he knew Ron White I remember calling. Ron White up I go why are you living in. Austin he goes he goes I'll still come. to the com store but I [ __ ] love it. he goes I love Texas I love being here I. love living in Austin it's a good City I. was like damn it's like a good [ __ ]. City and so when the pandemic came. around and we were looking for places to. live we had some friends that were. coming to look in Austin I was like.

let's look in Austin and we came and we. saw this house on the lake I was like. let's go my buddy I have my buddy Scott. Voss he lived in uh New York like most. of his like in the city and then he all. just abruptly moved to NE brunfels you. know new Bruns and he's always like a. bow hunter and all this stuff and he he. loved that stuff it's for bosses bosses. they're they're great friends. out here too now yeah I know I know I. know the whole thing yeah he's uh. they're amazing and uh he loves it I'm.

always like how is it you know like are. you you know missing New York and he's. like not a stitch you know it's like you. could always visit New York I love New. York I love to go back and visit I love. to visit and eat yeah well I'm on the. island so it's like it's not in the. craziness right but it's it's yeah it's. it's the island is a different state yes. it really is it's a different state 100%. it really is yep it's a different state. it's not New York City no no no I'm on. you know it's it's it's it's it's it's.

very right wi yeah it's different yeah. it's much more families mhm yeah much. more normal which is what I need you. know you know but here I used to love. working on the island that was my. favorite place to work Governors yes. [ __ ] Chuckles do you remember. Chuckles. yes is that minola is that minola minola. that's right yeah East Side was great. that was a sad day when East Side TI. closed and then they they opened another. one Richie and it just got away from him.

and it was just not a great you know he. took on a massive like store like a. massive warehouse and started rebuilding. it and just got you know in over his. head with stuff and the you know the. boom was slowing down a little bit you. know and it just got tough yeah Long. Island has always been a good place for. comedy though there's always real good. Comics coming out of Long Island there. there was always like a long island. attitude like you get guys who come into. the city from Long Island I was always. afraid of that that was another move.

like oh my god making that mood to the. city people like you going to go to the. city I'm like I'm not going to the city. yet I'm not ready I'm not ready I was so. scared the first time I performed in the. city I was soeller where'd you go Boston. ComEd no catch a rising star yes me too. Louis fanda yes I was so terrified I. thought I was going to bomb I was so. nervous i' never been more nervous for a. show in my life because all the grades. were went through there you know I. remember I watched a video that was. online of Richard. prior I guess back then I must have. watched a tape because this is we're.

talking about like the early 90s it must. have been a tape but I watched a VHS. tape of uh Richard PRI on stage at catch. and I was like oh my God I'm going to. perform in the same place and I knew. Richard Bowzer would performed there I. knew it was just a legendary Club I. couldn't believe I was I couldn't. believe I was there I couldn't believe I. was allowed to be on the stage me too. man yeah but when it went okay it went. good you know I was like okay and then. the next show I did the city I was like.

loose I was like this is just a crowd. these are just people that's it and then. I just got loose but the the the this. Allure of the city was always like you. can't trick them they're going to be the. smart people like you can trick all. those losers that come to see you at a. bar in you know the middle of. Massachusetts but if you're going to go. to New York [ __ ] City you better have. your act together you know and you your. act has to be tough tight stand up New. York the comic strip the comic strip you. remember Eddie Murphy was there oh my. gosh Eddie was here you know you see.

that Chris Rock and these I'm like who. yeah well the the CL the clubs in New. York there was so many of them Boston. Comedy Club yeah Dangerfield. dangerfields I played how I played in. front of probably three people right. 1:00 in the morning at dangerfields yeah. I was there once dangerfields and my. spot was at 9:30 and I got there at 9:00. and everyone was by the bar I'm like. what's going on like there's no crowd. and while we were there two people. showed up and you remember Bobby oh he. put the show on yeah he was crazy Bobby.

Welcome To Danger food just brought him. into. the down and then the show started and. we we all did stand up for two people I. love it they were like held hostage how. could they leave we're going to get out. of here this sucks like what there's. five more guys coming there was. something about back then that I I mean. I missed so much that I guess it's the. community again but that whole drive to. to you know the newness of being in. these clubs the you know the comedy. seller you know also we didn't know if.

we were going to make it that's it you. know you back then you were like am I. going to be a real professional or is. this just [ __ ] should I think about. getting a job job right you know I quit. my last job way early did you yeah I was. working at a place called Granger in the. uh in the warehouse just pulling orders. it was like an industrial equipment. company and uh I hated it it was so hot. and I'm I'm like miserable and I'm doing. like one like I'm doing an improv class. and like a couple dates I have here and. there and I was like I think I'm going.

to turn into comedy I think I can make a. living of this stuff and it's like. pulled out way too it living at home my. folks and like I might have pulled out a. little early but you know but that's the. way you do it though you'll find jobs. and things to do to make money while. you're struggling right but it's if you. if you have a net you'll fall right. you're right that's you got to you have. you have to be 100% all in because in. the be and in the beginning like in the. first days when you and I knew each. other we were just like kind of opening.

acts right which is like you're not. really making much money maybe you could. headline some little scrub room in the. middle of nowhere make a couple hundred. bucks that night drive to Connecticut. you know so it was a it's precarious. like who knows what's going to happen I. could fall we all knew guys who fell. apart there was guys who were like. Headliners were big comics and they just. fell apart they fell apart they couldn't. they could handle it for whatever reason. it's weird fear of success or just like. whatever it is they just they didn't. know how to go to the next level or I.

think for them it's a lot of that they. didn't have Community I think back then. even more so than it's a problem now it. was way more of a problem back then. because everybody was in competition. with each other right nobody looked at. other people like other people that are. just like me that are out there doing. great and so that's awesome for. everybody right back then like if you. and I were friends and there was was a. Tonight Show host spot available and. they were going to talk to you and they. were going to talk to me we couldn't be. friends anymore right then like the.

people would like turn on each other. they would they would backstab each. other like the famous David Letterman. and Jay Leno things right Leno's like. hiding in the closet listening to yeah. it was like they were in competition. with each other was did you have a group. of guys in Boston around you like when. you first started or no was it just you. me and fit Simmons were always tight. right and we started out literally a. week apart from each other in open mics. right and then Chris Maguire I was. always tight with Chris and there was a. few guys from that era that I I stayed. friends with that we did a lot of Road.

gigs together and we were tight and that. was real fun mostly Fitz Simmons cuz. Fitz Simmons was he was a good buddy and. we we did a lot of gigs together when we. were starting out we drive to Rhode. Island for free yeah and just do open. mics Allen Pennsylvania for I mean like. 20 bucks or something I remember like I. go this is cost me more than tolls yeah. I was like but I'm went you yeah but. that's the only way to do it you know. you have to you have to put in those. hours and that time and you have to be. and if you're with someone else is also. doing it it makes it way easier so yeah.

made it easier for sure to be friends. with fit Simmons because we were both. doing the same thing at the same time. yeah but there wasn't a group like we. had in LA and La that was that was the. different that was a different thing. that was a real brother and Sisterhood. like it was like everybody was like so. tight and everybody was so supportive. cuz it coincided with the internet when. the internet came along then instead of. everybody being competition with each. other for a sitcom or a you know a TV. show now everybody was on each other's.

podcasts right so now it was only. beneficial yes it was like if I could go. do Schultz's podcast that would make my. Netflix special get more people to watch. it if I could go do this it would do. that if I could do all these different. things it would actually promote stuff. and it would make it bigger and better. and then it was like everybody's podcast. grew because they were on other people. podcast and no one suffered no one there. was no negative like of all the people. that I ever had on my podcast that went. on to do podcasts and tour and do Arenas.

it only helped it only helps it never. hurt it only helps it helps them it. helps me it helps the audience it helps. everybody helping them is insane I mean. like look at the careers you've built. from this you know I I just Expos people. to talented people that already existed. and that benefits me you absolutely 100%. but it's like you you give them this. platform and it does it it grows because. then they're able to do it and bring up. other people and you know and then other. people are seeing that and they're. they're applying that in their own lives. too it definitely wasn't the K the back.

in the day I felt like I had my brother. Gary and rock and you know uh Adam. Ferrara and Richie like we had this. tight group that we would look out for. each other those guys you know we would. try to do that but other than that it. was backstabbing it was like they were. just trying to get in the way and don't. tell this guy about this audition it's. like you know I hated that I hated that. well that's why I loved hanging out with. you and Ferrara and you know it's like. you find good dudes and you all hang. together and all enjoy each other. success and and do shows together too.

that was the most fun thing when you and. I got to do shows together was that the. best it was the best oh I loved it so. much had so many fun gigs it was such a. good time and just to be on the sideline. cuz you're one of those guys that if if. I'm laughing hard in the room you go. crazy oh you get me nuts you build me up. you are you are the the hype Manz you'd. fire me up and we'd well I was knew you. you at your best I always knew who you. were like if we were just at a bar and. you just start going off about something. and we're crying laughing you had this.

ability to get [ __ ] furious about. something in the most hilarious way and. I was like you got to bring shimmy out. know you got to bring shimmy out on that. stage you were like one of the few guy. I'm telling you and Sandler are guys. that believed in me more than I believe. in me you know what I'm saying really I. mean it's sometimes amazing you're. you're special quality is to be. comfortable around your friends and then. that that's where you show your full. potential right and then it's up to your. friends to say you got to just carry.

that with you on the stage because. that's you a like the bit that you do. about pulling up to the curb and the the. lock cancels out with the girl grabs the. hand that that is that's a that's a full. shimmy bit you got me you buil me you. like you got to go nuts with and I was. like more and more and adding it and. going I literally jumped in the AUD. audence during cuz you got me like that. was when we were up at Montreal you like. you got to go shimmy and I like went. nuts I literally jumped I jumped on some.

guy in the crowd I've never done that. before ever I free this was like you. know but that got me my deal that you. know that's literally being that nuts. you know yeah it was awesome it was. awesome but that's that's you at your. best but sometimes like that's you know. sometimes people need a coach right. sometimes you need you know you need a. hype man you well my friends do that all. the time we do it for each other do it. to me they'll say like Tony last night. we're going over a bit he's like I. really think that when you're saying. this maybe say that first and I was like.

damn maybe you're right right and every. now and then someone will see things. with fresh eyes and they got to pull you. aside and go I think you should do it. this way and you're like oo I like it. let me try it and I'll try it the next. show and like oh my God you're right. that's itug think that that's the it's a. comfort level it's a comfort level when. you're when you're comfortable with. somebody and you you know you you get. past that you just you open up and you. try to and you know each other that's. exactly what it was like I. said we would go out and do these and.

that would be it you would give me these. things and get me all hyped up and it. changed who I was it changed what I. again that comedian that with the you. know standing up there in the Middle. with the mic stand and like you were. just that guy to me you were that guy. that was just like you didn't care and I. was like I want to be that you know I. remember one time we were at one of the. improvs the BR improv or one one of. those improvs and and uh one of the. [ __ ] guys who's working the sound. Foods goes what did you do to. him I go that's him that's him that's.

the real shimmy that's when he when it. comes out cuz you were just going nuts. you were just going nuts you're like. dude he goes so crazy when you're here. like that's that's him that's I need you. in my life that way like I need you to. do that with everything I'm telling you. that's what I miss when I'm on my you. because again my own Captain I go off. the rails I'll start overthinking things. and it's like you know you know that. happens with Fighters too I'm sure yeah. Fighters decide that they're the boss. and then they don't have a guy like that. happened with Tyson like Tyson was with. custom custom died and now he doesn't.

have a boss anymore he doesn't have the. the alpha he doesn't have this this uh. this this this wise person who's. overseeing all of it going no no no no. not this this and this is why this is. why you have to approach it this way. like yeah this is why like sometimes. people need a coach you need you need a. you need someone you knows exactly. what's going on I don't care if it's if. you're like I need it in like if I'm. writing a movie or writing doing. whatever it is I need people to to say.

hey you got to see it you because you're. in your own head everything has that. same flavor like I'm always like ah. we're writing the same type of movies. and this that because I'm controlling. everything and sometimes I got to. relinquish that control and say let. someone else say you know believe me. trust them Just go with it you know and. I struggle with that cuz I'm like no no. no no you know and that's that's the key. to it and I could see that in the fight. game it must be like you know where I. take over and I know better and I got to. switch camps and do all this stuff or. especially if you're the champ right if. you're beating everybody and you think. like I'm [ __ ] everybody up cuz I'm.

the best and then your manager is like. looking at Club Lang and Rocky he's like. no this [ __ ] guy's doing the real. thing you better watch out you don't see. this coming yeah and you have to have. that guy around you otherwise you'll be. delusional and you wind up like with a. flashlight in your face that's right. that's right and you know they're. Wheeling you out a stretcher that's uh. it's the thing with success like and. also the part of success is to get. successful you have to get really. uncomfortable and once you get to a.

certain level of comfort you're you're. like I don't want to be uncomfortable. anymore I did all that in the but that's. over I'm done but the only way you keep. getting better is to be uncomfortable. that's it that's the ice bath every. morning that's literally going you why. do you you don't have to do this anymore. you know it's like but why so you got to. build up the boss in your head like I. made my own coach cuz I realized there's. not going to be enough coaches around me. like I had coaches when I was doing. martial arts I mean there was a giant. factor for me that I I went to that Jun. Kim Taekwondo Institute in Boston which.

was like one of the best best gyms in. the country I just got just dumb luck. happen to be there at the right time but. once I realized you're not going to have. a coach everywhere like you got to be. able to coach yourself like I write out. my training routines all myself I write. them out so I know what I have to do and. I just do it I found an old Journal like. when I was literally doing I did Karate. for four I don't know how many years it. was when I got to like a brown belt you.

know when I was in high school and stuff. like that or a little just as I guess it. was ending then maybe was just going at. the college I was by a brown B by then. but I never felt that we had a guy named. Al Wilson in our school who was a boxer. and I was learning all the karate stuff. and I was really good in you know I was. I have these you know the the moves and. stuff like that and the cata down like. crazy crank them out like rip them you. know like really powerful and this guy. was just different you know it was. boxing and know like I didn't have that.

so I never had that confidence even then. like in as a brown B I was like I I need. to know something like I got to learn. and and it really you know boxing is an. eye opener oh my gosh and wrestling you. know it's like all these things that's. what I'm saying as far as that stuff. it's like those are two big eye openers. especially if you think that you know. how to fight cuz you know how to do. karate and then someone you box with. someone like oh a totally different. thing I got to learn this now learn it. like I learned everything else I. remember when you took me to when we. went to Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu I. remember my one probably the first class.

A guy grabbed me and held me just. against his chest and my face was in his. CH in his ghee and I couldn't breathe I. didn't know what to do so I reached up. and I was like grabbing his throat which. you're not to do but I was panicking I. you know and he was like whoa you know. like whatever I was like oh I didn't. know I just played it off but I was gone. I was gone he was like I was going to. tap from a chest yeah people do that in. in Black Belt tournaments smother. smother choke yeah I can't I can't do. that like people smother tap people like.

big guys would get on top of people and. tuck them in between their pecs oh my. God yeah I'm out I I feel like I'm. drowning I'm done kind of drown yeah. it's scary it is scary but if you can. learn defense of that then you're always. going to be safe that's the thing it's. like if you can just figure out how to. defend yourself in those positions just. to stay alive and it's the worst feeling. in the world to be trapped under someone. for 5 minutes where they're trying to. kill you but if you can if you can. develop enough confidence that you're. safe no matter what that's what Hicks.

and Gracie always said right he goes I. am always safe he go always defense my. defense is perfect I am always safe so. he never worried about being tapped. because he was always putting himself in. these terrible positions he would have. black belt start on his back with a. fully locked in real naked choke that's. how you have them start that's yeah then. you're not afraid of anything you've. been there before defense yeah you got. your defense I if I if I applied what I. think about all day long to actually. practicing it yeah I don't but I think.

about it all the time like you got to. build that coach up in your brain dude. you got I would literally look up things. and I go I would watch everything and be. like I saw uh Eddie Bravo once say or I. heard that he said I won't even teach. anybody until you can do the butterfly. you can get it to the you know to your. knees to the the mat and I was no he. said you can't get a black belt oh that. what it was you can't get a black Bel. until you get your knees to the m okay I. thought he was like I thought he was. like oh I took it that way and I'm like. I started pushing you know but then I.

faded like I don't he gave up on that by. the way oh did it yeah he gave up on. that because he realized you could be a. black belt without putting your knees to. the mat yeah cuz I can't move like you. know it's just Eddie has a very specific. style and it's super effective and it's. very dangerous off he's one of the most. dangerous guys ever off his back and so. he developed this style based on. flexibility and movement and uh I could. always do that because I was very lucky. that I you've always flexible because I. did talk window when I was really young. and I always stretched so I I didn't.

have any problem adopting his techniques. but a lot of people did just because of. the the dexterity issues I would I would. think like cuz that was like the rubber. guard and stuff like that right and it. was like I was always a big guy so I. didn't know whether in my head I would. go I shouldn't train this way because. it's not my style of fighting or. whatever or should I be a big guy that. can do that and I would go back and. forth go and you know some trainers. would be like uh you know you shouldn't. do this you know don't waste your time. doing that you'll never do that and I'm.

like well what if I'm you know nothing. scarier than a heavyweight that can move. around and be like that you know a. heavyweight that can fight off his back. is one of the most dangerous guys I. can't I get it that was always noa's. like big thing right cuz minaro back in. the day when minaro was The Pride. Champion nogara was a lethal black belt. off his back so these guys are so used. to wrestling guys and taking them down. but you get taken down you're in noar's. guard you're you're in fabrio ver Doom. he tapped all the great from his back.

yeah Fabo Doom he he tapped Fedor from. his back that's I mean come on man Fedor. from his back he was the he was the. first guy to beat Fedor and everybody. was like holy [ __ ] and the way he did it. with just pure jiujitsu he got him an. armbar triangle combination he's like. this is Checkmate [ __ ] just slap. that down like boy Fabricio verdom had. the most wicked of all guards he he. tapped all the greats he tapped Cain. Velasquez he tapped minaro he tapped.

Fedor he tapped like some of the. greatest of all time that guy tapped off. his back that's crazy that's what I have. to I literally I have to get back to it. I really got to get back to it. because that fear of those positions. that you you just don't want to ever get. in it's the Suffocation it's this and. that and even every time I start up. again. I I I hate the warm-ups the warm-ups I'm. like dizzy like you know I'm doing these. like crab walks and stuff like like I'm. like already out like you know but it's. like I have a guy that uh Weidman hooked.

me up with you know I was going to go to. Sarah because Sarah's out there it's. great Jiu-Jitsu um uh but for some. reason wyin goes go to this guy he's. he's he'll be great with you his name is. Derek mangie he does Monster Jiu-Jitsu. out but it was like an hour away from me. but he's the greatest guy and he comes. to my house and he trains me and stuff. and he's just a beast but it's like I've. got to get past literally out of my head. and go get in these positions but I when. I train with him he's so big like I I.

get on his back or whatever it is and he. just gets up it's like an apartment. building just coming up like I can't. even hold you know I don't and it's so. frustrating to me and he's flexible and. big and he can move around and it's like. I this is where I don't finish I quit. I'm like ah I get frustrated and I don't. you know honestly the thing about. training with someone who's really good. the problem is you're never going to get. good enough to tap them cuz they're. always going to be ahead of you you. really should train with people that are. okay that's the best way to train the.

best way to get really good at Jiu-Jitsu. I've always said and Eddie Bravo used to. always say this is strangle blue belts. really find people that could resist a. little bit but they're not really on. your level just drill on them right you. drill on them and that way then when you. get to brown belts and you get to black. belts you're you're you're sharp and you. have all these reps of finishing the. techniqu all these reps of closing the. technique do you recommend just drilling. drilling drilling 100% drilling is. almost more important than anything. really yeah because it solidifies the. move in your head when I got really good.

the best I got at Jiu-Jitsu when I went. from uh blue belt to Purple belt was. when I was training with Eddie and we. were drilling all the time we were. drilling multiple times a week right so. we get together and we would for an hour. and a half we would just drill and it. sucks you don't want to you want to roll. rolling is fun sparring is fun you know. it's like you're playing a video game. but if you can just force yourself to do. the work and do a lot of drilling your. your Technique will get really sharp all. the best guys drill they drill all the.

time they do they do either live drills. where you all Start From a Certain. position or they'll do drills where. they'll go over a specific path like. Eddie was big on going over paths like I. want you to do this you pass the guard. he goes to block you set this up and. then you counter with that and then we. would drill that very position over so. then when that would come up and. training when you would go to pass and. someone would block and then you would. take their back it's like oh it just. it's all syned in to your nervous system. so when you're and that enables you to.

when you're in a position yeah to think. two or three moves ahead and you're not. going to get that if you're training. with some big black belt you're not. going to get that you're never going to. get to the point where you could do that. to him it's noten he's great it's not. it's not him it's. me if he lets you do it it's not the. same you got to be able to do it to. who's not letting you do it and someone. who you don't know you know well that's. the key once you start learning someone. and you're kind of yeah you don't want. to know them you want you want to be.

able to like solve a human puzzle some. person is pulling on your [ __ ] and he's. kind of freaking out not only that it's. the fear of that like I hate that I. don't like that you love it I hate going. to a class where I don't know every. first of all I hate the gay I Hate. Everything I suffocating that thing that. thing is go I because then I feel like. you're not learning the techniques and. then you are you are you yeah 100% I. have a black belt and ghee and I have a. black belt and no ghee I can do both of. them I've done both of them I trained. both of them at the same time but one of.

the things that I did from learning from. Eddie was because I was training so much. no ghee but I was also training ghee I. would go in and do the ghee but I. wouldn't use it I would let them use it. on me but I was just concentrating on. over Hooks and underhooks and I was. concentrating on all the same grips that. I would use so that I would never be. deficient CU if you get used to grabbing. collars and sleeves and you get used to. adjusting people with butterfly sweeps. and stuff like that based on grips the. problem with that is all those grips go. away when everyone's slippery and it's. just bare chest so you have I so I was.

just all about clinching and I was all. about a tight game I was all about. learning what Eddie's moves were and. Edd's moves were all over Hooks and. underhooks it was all wrestling based. and it was all become because of Jean. jaac Machado so our instructor Jean jock. his left hand he only has a Thum he. trained me a couple days in in in Cino. when I was to my house he was such a. great guy he's the best the best it's. when I look at these videos of you know. uh where they take the gay belt or.

whatever it is and underneath and wrap. it around this thing it's like I I. always go it's not that it can't work or. whatever but I always look for things. that are applicable like like you know I. want to be able you know and it's like. that to me I I I I can't do that I can't. you know so but I always heard that for. you to get better at. nogee you want to train ghee because. it's like taking a bat and you know. Swinging with the donut on it nah that. doesn't make any sense okay no no you. want to train it's like to get really. good at Rocket ball you need to play. tennis it doesn't make any sense well I.

got four massive GES if you want to use. them for something you could throw them. over your couch or whatever you feel. like doing cuz I'm happy to get rid of. them listen there's nothing wrong with. the ghee the ghee is still great and. what the ghee does do is it forces you. to be very technical cuz you can't. muscle out of things it's you can't just. pull out of stuff because you're trapped. so you have to learn how to use the. proper defense and also never let you. get to get yourself into a position. where someone's completely cinched up on. you like you like if someone has like. like there's certain chokes like a clock. choke like if they reach into your.

collar and they grab a hold of your. collar like this and then they get this. arm wrapped around here you're in a bad. spot cuz then I'm going to spin oh gosh. I'm going to go oh and it's like a. tourniquet right and it's terrible it's. a tour oh it's death it's death it's. such a horrible choke to get stuck in so. you just got to in those situations the. ghee can be very like if you're in a a. street fight with a guy who's got a. winter jacket on some guy's got a. leather jacket on and he grabs you and.

you grab a hold of that collar and you. pull him to the side and you fish that. arm underneath his shoulder that's a. dead man right like he does even know. he's dead he's a dead man like if you. get a hold of someone's leather jacket. and then you get your arm under there. and you get this like this you're like. oh son here going for a gator roll right. right right I love that yeah so this. like a judo player who fighting someone. with a winter jacket you're [ __ ] that.

guy's going to hit you with the world. he's going to spike you on your [ __ ]. head on the concrete and you're not even. going to able to stop it you're not. going to be able to do a goddamn thing. so it's good to learn the ghee cuz most. people are wearing clothes yeah I'm just. going to go out cheerless from now on. like just you could Ezekiel choke. someone with a with a hoodie if you get. on top of someone with a hoodie and you. get all up in here and you. [ __ ] this is different level this is. not what I'm literally I need to.

yeah I've got to start I really do I. gotta I got to do something because it's. like it's there's nothing wrong with the. ghee the ghee is great the ghee is great. I I still love the G it slows down when. you it does slow the game down for older. guys too that's the one thing that's why. they keep saying you don't want to go. noge because it's going to be but it's. like it'll be a lot quicker but I don't. mind I like that you as long as it's a. guy my level does slow the game down but. also to me I just feel suffocated like. everybody's always grabbing me and I'm. like I'm out I'm like tapping like crazy. I'm like I'm you know um plus my grip.

strength I ripped I first of all tore. this bicep when I was oh go did you get. it repaired or do it just like this one. happened this one happened uh about five. six years ago I was I hired a uh a. personal trainer uh and she came to my. house like I didn't even know she just. she was like almost like the CrossFit. person and she was like we're going to. work on strength and I never deadlifted. or did anything and I started doing. deadlifts and she was like just I didn't. even literally know how to do it she was.

like showing me and she was getting so. excited she goes that's pretty good. weight let's can we bump it up a little. bit it was like 135 225 275 and then she. goes can we go a little bit more she put. 315 on it and then I go and I got it and. she was like can we go 405 like whatever. she bumped up and I'm going and I'm. starting to feel like a little tired and. and I go I don't know I don't know we. should do this I don't know if this is. getting me but she was so happy she like. this is really good it was like a. personal and I go I've never done I did. 405 and I felt a little something I got.

it I just got it and she was like this. is amazing and then she said can we go. like. 450 and she yes and I went. pop right away I I got it up for a. little bit and I just went I felt I go. oh my gosh but it didn't it was such a. bad it didn't tear away from the bone it. just there was like it looked like it. was like Cho meat and there was a it. ripped a hole in the middle of it oh so. it was weird it was like he go the guy. looked at it and he goes we can't even.

do anything with this so it's like heal. you just got to let it heal does it. still have a hole like when you f well. it's it's you can't see this one as much. you can see a little divot you see a. little divot here but then uh just. recently I did a with Joey Diaz I did. that movie uh I did a movie with him and. it was a lot of fighting in it and um. I'm fight training with the guys and. we're rehearsing all the the. choreography and uh going through the. moves and we did it like a lot and it. was the end of the time they like he's. like do you want to run it one more time. and I was like uh all right he was just.

run it slow just just to get it cuz I. was getting tired and and I had to go. and double leg the guy or whatever it. was and I went into double leg him and. it was very slow and he moved to the. side and he went this way and it. stretched my arm and it went dtin I go. and they go oh that looked awesome. awesome guys and I go no no no no I. literally have it recorded I go. something's wrong I go something's wrong. and this one. this one's bad it's it's nasty it's like. it's it's the Matt Sarah one it it. rolled up on me o and it was I got it. checked out and they go it's completely.

torn and um you know the the guy was. doing PT on me uh uh you know this guy. Amato he's awesome Johnny he's awesome. guy to do pt and he he was telling me. he's like well the good thing about it. is it's torn completely because it's not. you know you're going to be able to do. everything with it and I had to go into. the movie so they go do you want to get. fixed you should get it fixed and he you. know it was like one of those things. where it's like you don't lose you don't. gain that much strength believe it or. not the bicep doesn't do that much the. bicep itself it's kind of like a turning.

a key and it's like that's where it'll. be affected a lot which is you know. that's actually not that bad did you get. it fixed or no I didn't I couldn't cuz I. had to go into the movie and shoot the. movie because if you do that you get it. fixed it's the rehab is like it's long. you know uh so uh I go I can't do it so. they said I go can I get it done after. the movie and they go you can't because. it's a window of the muscle like if you. don't attach it right away it won't take. yeah so I did it I didn't do it and uh.

it's bad and it still hurts it cramps. every time like I don't feel like I can. do anything I've lost so much strength. on this thing now that's you wish you. had gotten the surgery I do I do that. sucks yeah I always wondered about. Matt's arm look at arm he's strong as. hell like it doesn't affect him though. he says you know I think he says it's. it's fine like bunch of guys get that. one that's a real common one it's a lot. it's common with a lot of times when. people throw a punch like if the punch. gets blocked the the bicep will pop and. curl up I've seen that a couple of times. yeah yeah it's this is ugly and it's bad.

remember Kyle perisian had that with his. hamstring yeah oh my gosh did he yeah he. had a hole in his hamstring his. hamstring just ripped apart and it. shriveled up and it always [ __ ] with. him like the rest of his career oh it's. in your head well also his one leg just. was not as strong right so his one leg. was like always compromised he should. have had it surgery on it like right. from the beginning yeah yeah but guys. try to rehab stuff there's like that. fine window that small window between. fixing something and not being able to.

ever fix it like TJ Dillashaw went. through that with his shoulders he tried. to just rehab his shoulders and his. shoulders wind up becoming chronic and. now they ruined his career right yeah. any kind of injury to a joint I always. say gets get the surgery if you can if. if it's that bad get the surgery but. also it depends on what it is like if. it's a bicep yeah get the surgery but. there's certain things like stem cells. might be able to fix that better than. surgery so it's like knowing where to go. and who to talk to and what doctors have.

actually gone through this before but. you can't do that now it's too late with. stem cell or anything with this with the. bicep no once it's shriveled up it's. shriveled up you have a very small. window I think of bicep the windows just. a couple of weeks you you get to get it. repaired like really quickly H I should. have done it cuz I really that sucks it. does that's a bummer it's you know. slowing me down for sure I tour my MCL. getting on stage once what yes at stubs.

at stubs in in Texas I was walking up to. the stage stubs is this uh outdoor uh. Amphitheater and as you're turning the. corner it's these concrete stairs but. they're spaced differently and so I was. like check I was turning my recorder on. and my phone and walking up the stairs. being called up to the stage and I. missed and twisted my foot and it popped. my knee bad where when I went on stage. my leg was shaking like I was nervous. you didn't stop I was in agony I was in.

agony yeah I just did my set oh my go. yeah I just power through it but I was. like my leg is shaking so bad it looks. like I'm so nervous like everyone can. see this oh no but it was just pain I. was I should have addressed it I should. have said I just blew my knee. out I should have said that so like that. people know why my knee is shaking yeah. cuz otherwise I was like God how do I. stop my knee from shaking. yeah it shook for like the first [ __ ] 10. minutes at least did you sit down nope. no just you're nuts did my set yeah it.

was still went great the show still show. was fun but then my knee was [ __ ] up. for a year after that I had to get a. bunch of stem cells I got stem cells in. it like three times before it finally. got to the point where it doesn't bother. me anymore how is it now it's great yeah. now it's great now I kick the B no. problems wow yeah I did a lot of knee. over toe stuff too that that uh U Ben. Patrick stuff I yeah that's great stuff. M that's it's a big game changer I've. strengthened my legs quite a bit more. since uh I did that since I had that. injury the Nordic curls and you know.

slant board squats goet squats I got. that sled too with on the wheels. whatever it's called T yes it's just I. just I just push it light and then just. walk back with it slow you know and just. keep going digging in I feel it my legs. and it's it's great the walking back is. huge that's such a crazy uh way to. strengthen your legs to pull a sled. backwards such a good way to strengthen. your knees right yeah it just keeps. everything strong and firm so it's like. and as long as you stay flexible as well.

and and you're strong like you have. stability you have range of motion but. you also have stability that's that's. giant that's. key I got to I'm doing this movie now. where it's me and uh it's an action. movie I'm going to literally leaving. tonight to uh uh Vancouver to to to It's. like a crazy action movie with and I. wanted to get in shape for it and it. didn't happen so I'm like I don't know. with uh I'm next to this Beast too uh.

Alan richen from the guy for the reacher. that gu huge that guy's huge oh my gosh. I was like I got to train to get you. know ready for I'm like nothing happened. and I'm like oh boy we're going into. that guy is the perfect guy for that. show cuz you know they did that movie. with Tom Cruz and it was like a the. character was never that small right or. no in the book The Character was this. monst. the character in the book was Alan. Richmond yeah richson he he's a he's a. rich yeah really good look atud dude's.

ridiculous he's amazing he's a house. that guy's a house great dude too yeah. it seems like a really nice guy. unbelievable I've seen him in interviews. he seems like a really nice guy but he's. the perfect guy for that Series yeah. that they just you know Tom Cruz is the. Blockbuster boy so they're like let's. just do it with Tom Cruz like but he's. 5'9 like this is this guy's got to be a. gorilla he's got to be a [ __ ]. linebacker he's a linebacker with a. genius brain he can kill people this. guy's this guy's yeah he's perfect for. it he is but uh so I'm so you have to do.

an action movie with him yeah oh no and. just just start fasting I just. start how much time do you have before. the camera rolls I just suck it out I. mean it's it's crazy man I it's like. fighting that age but it's like you're. right look at you're doing it man it's. like such a difference how you are with. what you do and you've implemented. you're we're different species you and I. I'm telling you it's like I just stayed. on it yeah I just never let off the gas. yeah that's the key yep but also being. careful like knowing like what's [ __ ].

up and what's not and knowing not to try. to work through injuries but to heal. them and making sure they don't happen. anymore by increasing range of motion. and strengthening things and just making. sure your your whole system is strong. like I do a lot of like non seexy. exercises like Turkish getups and things. like that things strengthen the whole. body windmills yeah those are the things. that I like because no one likes to do. them and those are the things I I when I. walk around the gym and you know do a.

couple things it's like that's where I. have to change my mindset to go go into. the places where it where does it hurt. when you bend where it is you know the. ankle strength foot you know all this. stuff to get you know comfortable in. that and it's like that's the stuff. that's so important Turkish getups I. hate those everybody hates those I don't. like to do it I don't you know there's. no like bench press is cool you like you. bang out 10 reps like yeah we did it. Turkish getups you never feel like. you're done it's always like no exactly. G it's hard and your everything's.

working your legs are working core is. working do you do a specific sets end or. do you are you more like on your own. just do a like do you go I just going to. work this area and I'm going to do as. many as I just want to drill it or do. you have a set I have sets yeah yeah. I'll do like um you know I do my warmup. my warmup after the cold plunge is. always 100 push-ups and 100 body weight. squats so that's the warmup so that gets. you going that gets you warm after. you've done the cold so that now you're. heated up again and then I do wait a.

second 100 push-ups and 100 body weight. squads that that's more than my week. right like like I even this is your. warmup that's the warmup every day yeah. that's 15 minutes so 15 minutes it takes. to do 100 push-ups and 100 body weight. squats I do those and then I do swings. so uh depending upon whether or not I'm. feeling good or whether or not I need. more warmup I either go with 50 or 70. lbs so if I go to 70 lbs that means I'm.

ready to go so I do three sets of 10. Swings with each arm with 70 lbs and. then I do uh clean press three sets of. 10 with each arm clean press and then I. do three sets of windmills with each arm. and then I do uh three sets of renegade. rows you know Ren rows where you're like. doing a push-up on the kettle bell so. you got the kettle bells two on the. ground uh same distance apart as your. shoulders and you do a push-up and then.

in the locked push-up position you do a. row with one side boom and then a row. with the other side boom back down for a. push-up back up row with one side boom. so your core is totally engaged the. entire time you're in a plank the entire. time and the entire time you're either. going down to do a push-up you lock up. and then you're stabilizing yourself as. you pull the one tle Bell up core that's. Bo put that down yeah boom and you do. that you do that with 70 lbs three sets. of 10 on each side and you get worn the.

[ __ ] out you know so you're doing 20. reps every time I'm doing this I'm doing. 10 reps with each hand so I'm doing that. with 70 lbs and so I do three sets of. those and then once I get done with that. then I usually either do the sled or. I'll do something else I'll do like. rounds on the bag I'll do like something. else and is that is that timed and all. that stuff too or is it you just no I. like to give myself time in between sets. because I want to be fully recovered.

before I get into the set again I don't. believe in I I follow this Russian. principle this uh Power the strong first. principle which is you the most. important thing is how much weight are. you pushing and for how many reps MH and. it doesn't matter if those reps come. over 5 minutes or they come over 20. minutes and it's probably better if they. come over 20 minutes and over 5 minutes. because you have a lot of time I'll I'll. take five maybe even 10 minutes in. between sets so I'm fully ready to go.

and then when I'm doing the clean press. with 70 pounds and I'm doing 10 reps. each side I'm no problem doing that I'm. not fatigued like I'm fatigued it's it's. it's difficult but it's not where I'm. like at the point of failure ever if I. if my point of failure was 10 reps I. would do five and then I would wait a. long time and then I do another that. makes sense yeah so I'm. getting you're never getting to that. point where you're pushing yourself to. the point where you're can hurt yourself. or never never never that's all I do I.

don't lift anything heavier than 70 lbs. need to right you don't need to people. think you do I mean it's one thing if. you're football player if you're a power. athlete you need to do cleans and squats. and dead lifs that's great but I don't. need to do that I just keep my body. strong and then I do my endurance work. my endurance work is either sled pulling. or it's uh tatas on the airbike or it's. rounds on the bag and then I get in the. sauna and the sauna that's that's see go.

in there right when you're tired and you. just step in that 195 degrees 195. sitting there for 20 minutes what's your. cold Plunge at 34. degrees I would have a heart. attack it's fine instantly I would be. gone I I I have mine ready I have one. and it's 50 it was. 52° it was 52 which was I was shaking. man but I would like I would I would. just go in the I was in there for 15. minutes though I would do that you don't.

need to go that long you don't need to. but you can do that if it's 50 yeah you. can I mean it's probably giving you the. same result if you do 15 minutes at uh. at 50 as you're doing 3 minutes at 34. that's probably giving you the same. result or similar result the whole idea. is you freak your body out and it. produces cold chock proteins and how. does that um compared to the uh the the. chamber one where you get the air is it. just like a uh does that get you cold. you know the one where you just stand. yeah they're both they're both brutal. they're both brutal I think never done.

the cold water is a different animal. though it's it it gets in your bones. more right yeah you feel colder like. when You' get out of that uh the U the. cryotherapy machine when you get out of. there within a couple of minutes you're. like woo you're okay you get out of that. cold water like for a [ __ ] half an. hour you're like Jesus Christ but that. was the way I would warm up I would just. go right into the body weight squats and. the push-ups so that was my way of. heating my body back up after the cold.

but don't your joints feel just Frozen. at that no no you're all right you're. all right I mean it's body weight so. it's not much weight so you're just kind. of pushing you know you could easily do. 20 push-ups you just do the 20 push-ups. take a break do the 20 body weight. squats take a. break heart rate drops back down next. set 20 body weight squats 20 push-ups. next set that do it do it five times. you've got 100 and then by that time I'm. warm and so then I'll do whatever the. other workout is maybe I'll jump rope. maybe I'll you depends on what I'm doing.

that day but I always write it out if. you write it yeah because if you write. it out you don't give yourself any room. for [ __ ] cuz you know this is what. you have to do it's all written out like. that's the boss the boss gets in there. and writes it all out before the the ego. steps in and they're like let's go eat. I'm hungry once it's there you get a. better workout if you have some fruit. first let's go have some fruit you get a. better workout if you eat I'll I'll you. know what I have a window between 300. and 4:30 I get a really good workout. then and then right now just go watch TV.

that's me yeah that's everybody but you. just got to have that boss in your brain. has to be in. control and once you get it subdued like. that much it becomes it's not that hard. right you the whole thing is momentum. the whole thing is doing is everybody. that has ever had a good day you have a. good day where you really get your [ __ ]. together you start feeling good about. yourself and you go the key is just. carry that forward and keep going and. don't let yourself [ __ ] off and if you. do give yourself a a day off recognize.

that just like an alcoholic that starts. drinking again this could be a slippery. slope so if you give yourself that day. off be real aware of what you're doing. I'm like I self- sabotage like if I go. I'm such a I'll start Monday again or. I'll start tomorrow that that hope of. starting the next day I have it so much. I remember like when I was training and. widman said this to me he goes when you. you know you're training and you you. know get a flat you know you don't get. out and flick fix the flat you get out.

and pop the other three tires like you. literally do and I do it's like once I. go off I go ah all right I'm off I'll. start you know Monday yeah I do I crush. it I I. do oh man I would love to eat with you. you know that say you know but I'm. saying like but but I you're right and. and you can eat and do it in in the. right way and I'm sure you enjoy food. and it's just you got to the boss has to. be fully in control before you get a day. off yes and it it is almost like. sobriety in that way like you just you.

have to get so much momentum that you're. fully confident that you could take a. day off and just eat ice cream and. there's nothing wrong with that if you. do have a hold of it but even if that's. that's got to be tempered though like. you can't like I notic I can't I can't. do it day off where I'm just crushing. myself it's like there's no coming back. the day the next day you feel like [ __ ]. too 100% yeah you know but the thing is. you have gone on schedule and gotten in. shape before you have done it so you. know you can do it so it's maybe even. more frustrating than someone who's.

never done it that's right cuz you have. like dropped 60 lbs you have gotten in. shape again and I remember when you were. training mids with Del grat I was. watching you hit the P Like You [ __ ]. when you got in shape for Here Comes the. Boom you got in [ __ ] shape and you. you were training hard and I was. watching some of those sessions it's. like so I know you can get to that spot. right it's just like maintaining I know. that's the thing it's maintaining and. now as I go it's like God takes a little. thing away from me the B set pull now. it's like you know another new reason.

it's a little yeah it's like I got to. fight it man and like I said I'm. teetering teetering between that you. know I got to go back I got to go back. and it's you're right man it's yeah you. just got to decide and one of the best. ways to decide is to write things down. it's so easy to just keep a thought in. your head and you don't really give it. the the what it deserves you got to. write things down occasionally you have. to really do and I write down my. workouts I have a big whiteboard in my. gym too just put it up there write it up. just write it down before you do it and.

give yourself a realistic goal don't. don't be nutty the point where the next. day you're going to be a dead man give. yourself a realistic goal adultery has. he goes get up go for a walk just go for. a walk for 40 you know whatever and it. really what happens is when I start. walking I'll start moving around I feel. good I go you know whatever and I start. adding more you know and it's like my. goodness then I you to throw I get the. egg weights and I'll just start throwing. with those and just I love it I really. you know it's it's something that is. really addictive in a in a good way that.

like you can you know once you start. doing it and it's a little bit it's the. pressure of you don't have to do so much. just do this yep and then yeah if your. your pressure is okay now you have to. lift weights for an hour and then go to. a 90-minute yoga class run a marathon. like [ __ ] that it needs to be very. realistic like you know we're going to. start off today you're going to do 20. push-ups 20 body weight squats 10 cleans. 10. presses uh you know a couple of chinups. and then you're done that's a WP that's. a that's 20 minutes 20 minutes and never.

be exhausted and then take you know the. next day you're going to do something. different but equally light and you do. that for a couple of weeks and if you. write it all out it shouldn't take you. more than even 20 minutes to work out. and you can get through 20 minutes just. write it all out make sure you follow it. and you know the one of the best things. for me is I I I have a TV in the gym and. I'll put fights on so I'll be watching. fights you get inspired watching fights. and then you you go through your routine. and you're good and as long as you write. it out and if you write it out and you.

know I know I wrote this down on paper I. have to do what this says committing to. it committ to it it's great because if. you just hold it in your head I'm going. to go work out what am I going to do oh. [ __ ] curls I don't know maybe I'll do. some bench press you you need a. structure so you can give it to yourself. right you're right that's awesome man. all right I'm going to I'm going to I'll. it in this documentary and we'll come. back and I'm going to show you that I'm. next time you're here I promise you'll. be looking for houses I promise we'll. work out together I love it all right my. man it's good to see you brother you're.

man you're the greatest thank you for. doing everything you're doing man my. pleasure you're awesome it's a lot of. fun it's great to see you out there. killing it I love it all right bye. everybody. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music].