Joe Rogan Experience #2073 - Derek, More Plates More Dates

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. [Music]. day good to see you again yeah you as. well do you do coal punch um we just. talking about it yeah it's uh something. that I I do occasionally but I don't. have one at my place so it's not a. regular part my routine but I would like.

it to be and I guess I could do the cold. shower thing but it's my apartment yeah. from my understanding it's not as uh I. don't know effective overall to like you. want to be fully immersed and kind of. get the full experience yeah it's I. don't think it's as effective but it's. pretty effective especially you live in. the [ __ ] Frozen communist [ __ ] hole. in Canada yeah yeah it's cold you get. real cold water when's the last time. you've been up there I don't go up there.

anymore you refuse right yeah I just. [ __ ] what they've done up there what. they did with the trucker rally and what. what Trudeau is doing with guns and what. they're trying to clamp down on. censorship on the internet that guy can. eat [ __ ] like that that place. needs 100% an overhaul of government. like they're they're sliding down that. dangerous road of Communism that scares. the [ __ ] out of me yeah I uh.

it's funny because even though I'm in. Canada it seems like the political the. prevalence of political information in. media is so much lesser than what goes. on in the States because it's just far. more interesting but even the. Alternatives that I'm aware of on the. political you know side of things that. are trying to you know get Trudeau out. and replace him not much better from my. understanding it seems like everyone's. uh every time I go on Twitter I see. Jordan Peterson [ __ ] on some other. guy who's like the next best option. apparently well he lik that Pierre Guy.

what's that guy's name I don't know. Pierre po what is his name there's the. the the guy who's. the reasonable Republican type character. or conservative character what is the I. think he said it yeah Pierre po that. guy's very smart okay he's very. interesting there's a really funny video. I don't know if you ever saw it. but um he's eating an apple and he's. talking to this reporter and the. reporter keeps asking him really stupid.

questions like what do you mean by that. like what does that mean and like like. he catches this reporter like says who. who's saying this and it's have you seen. that video I've never seen. it Jamie will find it currently you're. obviously taking the populist uh pathway. um what does that. mean well appealing appealing to. people's uh more emotional levels I. would guess um I mean certainly. certainly you certainly you tap. certainly you tap very strong.

ideological language quite frequently. like. what uh left wing you know this and that. right wing know I mean like just buzz. wordss I never really talk about left or. right I don't really believe in that. okay taking a it's it's a longer. conversation but it's very interesting. because it just shows you the level of. the the level of sophistication these. [ __ ] Dopey reporters that are. covering this kind of [ __ ] now there are. they are just trying to always play.

goish stuff the title was does it hurt. him I wonder what the consensus is of. like the average Canadian if they think. it's oh this guy's legit or if they're. like this guy doesn't care about us at. all it's a good question I mean I think. uh propaganda affects everyone and I I. think Canadian propaganda is a little. more tightened down in control what they. did with the truckers like for example. like the way Trudeau just openly labeled. them as racist and Mass IST and then.

when people were donating to this uh. trucker movement when they were trying. to you know have this protest they they. closed down people's bank accounts who. donated I mean that is third world. country [ __ ] yeah the fact that they. think they can do that in Canada is. insane have you seen the uh the ban of. news in Canada to where if you're. located in Canada you can't access news. outlets now because.

the news outlets or the social media. platforms featuring the news outlets. refuse to pay Canada their own fee. essentially so if I'm in Canada and I go. on Instagram and try to go to a you know. a news page that's outside of Canadian. media it'll literally say can't view. unavailable in Canada yeah it's crazy. that's nuts that's like China I mean. it's literally like what they do in. foreign countries that are run by. dictators yeah yeah dude the the bills. it seems like every couple weeks there's.

some new Gong Show of a bill that. everyone says is going to you know wipe. out creators off social media or force. you to make Canadian content only which. is like this super nebulous thing that. you have no idea am I only going to be. be able to talk about like maple syrup. and beavers and [ __ ] or like what's it. going to be you don't know so that's a. concern as somebody on YouTube. especially so yeah yeah but um yeah I've. heard concerning things that my podcast. at one point time might not even be.

available in Canada because of this yeah. like that that's a concern that this. could be used in that manner to stop. people from accessing podcast especially. if I'm openly critical of that [ __ ] hole. communist government oh yeah you. definitely won't be on there yeah if you. make Canadian enough content then you'll. get promoted though yeah okay I'll start. talking about hockey yeah yeah start. talking about George St Pierre and. hockey yeah does George still live in. Canada or I believe he does he's here a.

lot he's here in Austin a lot cuz he. trains with uh the donaher squad you. know Gordon Ryan and those guys so. they're all out here he's retired but. like what's his current lifestyle now is. it just like training and social media. or well you know fortunately George is a. man of leisure because he made a. shitload of money fighting and so he's. really well off and he doesn't have to. do anything but he does enjoy traveling. and training and the guy still is.

involved in martial arts as just a. vehicle for developing his life so he is. super fit I mean like topnotch fit the. guy still does this this rigorous. exercise routine he still trains with. all of the like these guys are. professional Jiu-Jitsu competitors so. with the donaher team it's a very. unusual team I know you've covered. Gordon and his steroid use and all that. jazz and uh what I like about Gordon is. he super open about it you know like.

he's not hiding [ __ ] yeah he's like look. everybody does it this is what I do I'm. the best yeah and then and everybody's. like. but no yeah but what they do is they. train 365 days a year it's wild yes and. that's one of the reasons why you need. steroids yeah like that is not. physically possible with a normal. endocrine system to be recovering from. six and8 hour workouts every day 365.

days a year you're going to get break. down there's just no I mean I don't give. a [ __ ] how many ice pass you take yeah. you know you're train these guys are. training all day long they they they're. doing different levels of training right. so they're doing weightlifting training. so most of Gordon's work Gordon's. girlfriend was a professional. bodybuilder and so most of his is just. size and build it's it's not really like. functional training like you you see the. old videos of Alexander Kellin do you.

know who he is yeah yeah yeah so you see. that guy doing kettle bells and [ __ ]. you know Shield cast with giant steel. plates over his head gord's not doing. any of that stuff it's a lot of. bodybuilding stuff um they do that then. they're doing drills where they're just. they're analyzing positions and finding. problems these positions and they'll go. over tape and I mean it's [ __ ]. meticulous man I mean you have to have I. I don't know if they're on Aderall but I.

would imagine that would help but. something something is very different. about the way they train and the and. then they're Drilling and then they're. doing of course they're doing Liv. sparring so they're doing they're. rolling they're you know they're they're. going from certain positions they have. goals to get to a certain position or to. avoid a certain position and they're. advancing faster than any group of. jiujitsu people on the planet Earth but. you have to be a [ __ ] Maniac you have. to be a 365 day a year com fully.

committed you miss nothing I don't give. a [ __ ] about your holidays no one gives. a [ __ ] about Christmas [ __ ] you it's. your birthday get in there everybody's. in there is the goal like I've seen them. on UFC Fight Pass and some of these new. morea they seem to be expanding in their. reach what is like the goal of the top. guys in that sport is it typically to. just stay at the top of the sport or do. a lot of them transition to MMA at some. point a lot of them will transition but. a lot of them don't want brain damage.

you know they just don't you know I. don't think G Gordon makes so much money. doing just jiujitsu I mean he makes. millions of dollars every year just. selling videos it's crazy how he still. has a is it like actual DVDs like he has. he has like a media he sells in like DVD. format I think I don't believe so I. think it's a digital download I would. assume yeah I I could have sworn. somebody said he like sold physical DVDs. I'm sure he probably does that as well. but I I don't even know if I have a me.

either that's why it seemed odd to me. which is so crazy because I would have. never thought that a physical media. player was just going to go away oh and. everything would just be in the [ __ ]. air yeah yeah no it's wild to see uh if. you look at the evolution of consoles. over in the past like 20 years it's like. these little. wild I guess now would be perceived as. like totally foreign to Jen Z or. whatever well I'm old as [ __ ] dude when. when I was a kid I remember pong yeah I.

was a little kid and you could play a. game on the television and it was nuts. nobody could believe it and you had like. this little dot that would go doot doot. and you would like with your little. scroll wheel you would roll your paddle. up to hit the. dot and me and my sister would play Pong. and we were like this is crazy we're. playing on TV we're playing a video game. on TV when's the what's the last game.

that you were uh into or did you like. stop yourself after uh it was Doom right. that you no it was qu Quake sorry yeah. well I didn't stop myself Jamie and I. and Jeff a few years back we had a local. area network room in our old studio in. LA and it it got to be a real problem. where it's just too much fun so we would. get out of a podcast at you know 3ish. and I would be playing till 6 7 at night. and then I'd go home and I didn't feel.

good I'd get out of there I'd be. frazzled you're adrenaline's frying like. Jesus Christ feel [ __ ] terrible yeah. it's like uh have you ever heard of a. super smash bros before okay so my. girlfriend uh got me what was I guess. the best and worst gift at the same time. a couple years ago it was a Nintendo. switch for Christmas and that game and I. haven't I pretty much swore off games. years ago because I just knew once I got. into them it's gonna [ __ ] my days like.

it very much saps my bandwidth and the. dopamine hit you get from it is insane. it's like a drug essentially so I played. it and it was it's probably the most. addictive thing in my life right now so. I need to I'm highly considering just. getting rid of it and getting it out of. my house it's almost like junk food. where you have to keep it out of the. house to not go ham on it with the games. it's the same thing dude and the the. what the graphics now and all the colors. and the vibrancy and everything compared.

to pong back in the day I can just. imagine what it does to your expectation. of like dopamine hits and then what. other stuff in life feels like reward. reward wise like proportionally to it. it's probably like [ __ ] night and day. compared to the pong days night and day. we were playing Quake champ Quake. Champions right and this is a game that. you play you have headphones on and you. can hear sounds behind you you can hear. them to the right to the left.

super sophisticated when you're running. through the water you hear splashing. sounds you have immersive Graphics. you're running through these tunnels and. Rockets are flying over your head and it. lights the wall as the Rockets are. missing you yeah I mean the Shadows. everything it's it's so insanely Vivid. and so fun this is Quake oh. damn and this is how fast it moves too. and when you shoot people they turn into. [ __ ] m Miss look at.

that enemy has the. quad quad is Quad Power that gives you. four times the. power imagine playing this no yeah and. for hours a. day and it's just like uh playing in. teams where there's no real end in sight. because you never win the game you just. keep playing yeah you start a new game. over and over over and over and over. again and then you can hop on these.

servers so like if you're you're at home. by yourself you could just hop on a. server and there's always people playing. what is the uh is this the most recent. iteration of the game yeah this is the. most recent okay it's so exciting it's. wild because this is what you're pay oh. yeah dude so this game is brutal cuz it. has in seemingly infinite amounts of. maps there's probably like like look at. that [ __ ] all the colors and stuff it's. like you your brain doesn't even know. how to process it at.

first and there's uh I don't know how. many characters like almost a hundred or. something and it's essentially the main. or the most sought after characters or. protagonist and antagonist or whatever. from Major Video Games so you're. basically getting to play with every. most popular character of every game. ever essentially oh wow so even if you. win a game the amount of iterations of. maps and players and different things. you can do it never really gets stale so.

you're just sitting there over and over. grinding through this thing with no end. in sight and the wild thing too is often. times I'm just playing against a. computer but I'll actually get pissed. off when I lose like I have to avenge. myself and go beat the computer so I'll. be like I'm going to sit here till I. beat this [ __ ] guy even though it's. not even a. human and then I I'll burn an hour and. I'll be like and that was my mentally. sharp you know one of however many hours. well there's so many of these games like. this there's so many different styles of.

game if you're into this style of game. or if you're into like halflife you ever. you ever play halflife heard of it seen. it never played it though it's a game. about like some science experiment gone. wrong that opens up some portal and. aliens come out and you got to fight. them and it's it's in this laboratory. and it's and it's the these games are so. immersive they're they're just so it's. like you're playing a movie that you're. participating in with insane graphics. and they're they're really well mapped.

out and planned out and they they make. them really challenging and exciting and. if you're a person that's into those. things like you don't [ __ ] all your free. time it's gone yeah it's gone there's a. lot of people that make good livings out. of it which is the crazy thing though I. know that's what's weird now so it's. like how it's almost hard I don't even. know what it would be like as a parent. to argue with your kid about if it's a. good use of time or not cuz it's like. the kid could be like I'm making more. money than every other [ __ ] kid in my.

class yeah I might they might be making. more money than their parents yeah. literally yeah if your dad has some you. got to get a job son have you seen how. many twitch subscribers I have Yeah well. yeah you could if you become popular and. play games online you can make a. substantial living so like if your kid. was playing golf and the kid said uh I. want to be a professional golfer you're. like. well are you winning tournaments so do. do you have a chance here like maybe. this is a good career path for you. Johnny yeah but no parent wants to go. what what the [ __ ] are you doing League.

of Legends yeah you're a my son's A. League of Legends player on Twitch what. yeah oh what did you do yeah and you get. you sit there and just rack up donations. while you play yeah the thing that's. wild to me and obviously people enjoy. doing this so I'm not you know [ __ ]. on it necessarily but I can't fathom. doing this myself is sitting there and. watching somebody play for hours but. this is literally how it supports them. as a Creator is watching the live stream. so this means that there's thousands of.

people at home eating dinner or just. sitting there and watching a guy play. rather than playing themselves I'm just. like I would have never imagined that. that would be a gigantic thing like yeah. because it's often times when you're. playing too your commentary is surface. level cuz you're trying to focus. especially if you're really good so. you're just watching a guy concentrate. and play and not really engage with you. in any meaningful way and you're just. sitting there as an observer and somehow. finding it worthwhile at the Chuck money. at the guy sit there and watch them for.

hours like I I don't know I just can't. faom and then there's a whole industry. of hot girls like in their underworld. playing video games yeah or like I think. there's a whole section on I don't know. if you've ever seen twitch it's a. platform I'm so not familiar with but I. should for you know to understand what's. going on with the gaming Market but like. it's like hot tub streamers or like. inflatable pool streamers and these. chicks just like put on a live stream.

and then get in a bathing suit and sit. in a like inflatable pool in their house. and just like wait around and talk to. you I guess and rack up Millions over. the year yeah it's nuts some will sell. the water that they were in just like. multi-level Supply Chain. management they'll sell the water. bottling it up in front of you in mason. jars this for you Doug it's funny. because you say that as a joke but it's. actually what happened oh my God yeah.

and they make Bank off it the number of. incels buying pond water twitch. streamers yeah no I can't even I can't. imagine like what mindset you would have. to be in to justify that purchase you. know you got to be really obsessed with. that person like do you get the jar of. the Mason jar and then you like jerk off. to the water like I don't get it yeah. but use the water to jerk off with ah. utility right there yeah there you go. yeah I guess I'm just guessing maybe. they put it on a shelf that's Debbie's.

water yeah she's my favorite twitch. streamer could be an investment I. suppose but I can't imagine that playing. out I don't believe that will be a. worthwhile investment but me neither but. it's like like what are the numbers of. men in 2023 that are single it's. something absurd it's an enormously. large number of people that are single. today as opposed to in the past yeah. I've seen a Chris Williamson has like uh.

he often posts like random statistics. that he sees and sometimes the numbers I. don't know where these surveys come from. because they're often the most wildly. specific things or we surveyed men and. 40% haven't talked to a girl in three. years I'm like who are these dudes but I. believe it yeah so it's pretty wild some. of the stats that I see this headline. and I have a different interpretation of. it though most young men are single in. 2023 most women are not it's like when. you ask the guys are like no I'm not.

tied up but the girls are like no yeah. we're we're dating so the guys are lying. or the girls are delusional view it the. same way what's happening I would be. highly skeptical that there's that many. like player dudes that are taking up the. the majority I would say I'm not even. saying players I just don't think that. they're you know they're not locked. they're we're not locked down you're not. living with me you know both I haven't. deleted my Tinder account yet well. that's the big thing right the options. that young people have today dating. single people have today with with these.

dating apps is. just if anything seems like you're not. in you know like I don't like the way. she said this or I don't like the way he. did that you like move on to the next. swipe yeah like you never get past this. thing where you know you try to like. manage how to hang out with each other. cuz you know when you're dating everyone. has a different personality and some. things that some people love other. people are like hey don't do that and. you're like oh all right I didn't know.

yeah I thought you like it when I opened. up the door you know like whatever it is. it's like there's always going to be a. thing that someone doesn't like and. everyone has so many options today it's. it's got to be if you're an attractive. person a woman or a man and you have a. dating app today like the chances of you. finding someone that makes you put away. all those other options because those. options in a dating app are just just as. addictive I would imagine as some video.

games oh for sure cuz you're engaging. with new people have you ever seen a. girl go through her Tinder to show like. how absurd it is for what the demand is. for them relative to H I haven't I've. seen people talk about it online but. I've never seen anybody do it in person. you could have like a six out of 10 who. would 20 years ago or whatever not get. that much attention if it weren't for. social media and everything going. through her Tinder and it's like match. match match no match match match whereas.

for dudes it's like nothing nothing. nothing nothing nothing maybe match. nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing. that so it's like literally 10% of the. dudes are getting 90% of the chicks and. then the demand the supply demand ratio. is not there so I think a lot of dudes. are single I don't know if they want to. admit it or not but it's because this. happened also recently with those apps. they've been getting caught using Bots. to pump up their numbers I have heard of. that the dating apps will have like AI. people and they're they're just doing it.

so they get more engagement there's a. lot of chicks that promote their only. fans and social media on Tinder too and. that's how they're going about it so. they're not even looking to date they're. just looking to pump their socials or. like get a new only fan subscriber from. some simp that thought they were. interested that's another one too right. I mean when do you bail out on that so. if you're a woman let's say you're a. woman and you're making you know some of. these women are making $100,000 a month. just showing their feet and whatever you.

know and so all of a sudden you date. this guy and you're really into him and. it's becomes a meaningful relationship. and and then this conversation comes up. like hey how how long are you going to. show your [ __ ] on yeah on only fans. as long as I want and then she's like. well I make $100,000 a month showing my. [ __ ] and only fans like oh all right. well yeah I don't know where this is. going then it's like do you make this sh. your [ __ ] no I don't no I don't you.

know so then the guy has to like be in. this position where the woman literally. makes like 10 times more than he does. showing her [ __ ] yeah and then he's. got to somehow or another convince her. to abandon that so they can live a a. life like a [ __ ] Norman Rockwell book. what let's just say and maybe this is. too extreme of a hypothetical but let's. just say you're in your 20s and you're. dating somebody and she's an only fans. girl yeah is that a deal breaker for you. no if I'm my 20s it's not no if in my 20.

first of all I'd be like how are you. making so much money this is crazy can I. show my [ __ ] if I was in my 20s but. then You' have to do it probably for gay. guys because women are not going to. pay uh I I would think that what I would. do is just accept the fact that this. isn't going anywhere and then we're. going to have some fun okay well what if. it's a somebody that you thought would. have potential as a serious long-term. thing would that be the deal breaker. that I think you'd probably know. immediately that she has an only fans I.

don't think you I don't think it would. take long I I think if you waited a long. time like if you're dating 68 months. like how do you have all these shoes. like where'd you get this car like like. what do you do for work if it was one of. those things you know and then you oh. you have an only fans and then you were. already in love with this woman that. would be that would be an issue I guess. or maybe you just like shift gears and. go okay I guess this is what I accept I. mean I it's possible it's feasible for a.

woman to have a completely disconnected. approach to what her only fans is and. think about only as a this is just a. business thing I I'm just making I don't. want to work at Wendy's and so I'm doing. this and I am making extraordinary. amounts of money and I'm going to invest. this money in real estate and smart you. could you could look at it that way what. would be the uh threshold of acceptable. behavior on only fans though cuz it's. like it ranges from like bananas and.

your [ __ ] yeah to like you could be. just from what I understand is a lot of. Fitness industry girls too will just. they're already almost nude on Instagram. essentially right and they will just. post different iterations of you know. the same poses or whatever in the same. kind of clothes but behind a pay wall. and I guess some of the money they make. is from talking to the dudes or the guys. thinking they're talking to them which. is often like a that's what Andrew right. those Andrew Tate's whole things like.

having people pretend yeah he get he. gets a lot of heat cuz I don't know I. don't know if this is actually what he. did but what people are saying is he. would type on behalf of the girls which. is like I don't know some people say. it's kind of gay so cuz it's like you're. talking to a dude about you know what. what you'd want to do with him and this. and that and speaking on behalf of the. girl as if you are her which presumably.

a lot of girls Outsource to whoever they. can get to do it or have I don't know. some cookie cutter scripts or something. yeah but um yeah it's kind of a weird. but if you were doing that you would. know exactly what to say to the guys. because you know exactly what the guys. want to hear cuz if you're just running. a scam I mean it's not really gay unless. you're getting. aroused thinking about these guys. jerking off to your words which is a. very gray. area yeah yeah so I can't it's a weird. situation for sure it's definitely weird.

well it's that's also the the the the. the criticism that Andrew Tate has. gotten about exploitation so supposedly. he would get these girls to fall in love. with them and then he would get them to. go and do this stuff for him yeah it's. wild how much content he has that exists. from back then that he's so articulate. and well spoken yeah but when he speaks. about it but then some of those videos. are so vulgar and whatnot that it's it's. hard to I can imagine the people who are. you know uh very hard on them you you.

watch the old videos it's pretty hard to. side with them when you see those yes. yeah but also you got to think of what a. person like that is trying to do when. they're first getting attention you're. trying to be as outrageous as possible. to get as much people to think about. what you're saying and talk about what. you're saying and engage with it yeah. and the best way to do that is to be. like a character and over-the-top. completely arrogant guy who's shirtless.

with sunglasses on smoking a cigar. talking about hoes yeah you know and. pimping hoes it's like is it a character. or is it really you and then when you. find out oh well no he actually does run. these cam sites and he does have these. girls working for him okay but then some. of the girls talk and go actually he's. like really nice and he was kind and he. gave me this business opportunity I want. not making a lot of money with it you're. like oh okay this is complicated like. much of this is theater and how much of.

this is like if it's your real feelings. that you know these women are subhuman. little robot flesh creatures that you. just extract money from yeah yeah any. interactions I've had with the guy. before he was you know super famous and. whatnot I've always been positive too. like super nice guy very intelligent guy. yeah super articul extraordinarily. intelligent yeah absolutely you know his. brother too doesn't doesn't get as much. credit but you know they're very very. smart guys but boy boy boy did they tap.

into there's this thing that's going on. where men do not feel like there's. anyone that represents men in popular. culture like act What Men actually talk. about when they're alone when men are. just hanging out with men and not trying. to impress women or trying to not get. yelled at the the wild [ __ ] they talk. about and you know if you can be the. most exaggerated form of that this world. Champion kickboxers standing there.

smoking a cigar making fun of simps and. you know that's very appealing to. because it doesn't exist yeah like if. you're never going to see that on CNN or. NBC or it's not no. mainstream media platform is ever going. to tap into this what what is obviously. a lucrative Market M young guys who. don't want to be like their parents they. don't want to be like their teachers. they don't want to be like any of these. people they see around around them that. seem neutered and potbellied and [ __ ].

depressing and and talking about equity. and inclusiveness and they're like Jesus. [ __ ] Christ and then they see this. guy and like oh yeah I like that guy. yeah yeah no he's definitely inspired uh. discipline and taking action and it's. like take responsibility for yourself. yeah yeah so I mean it's like a a more. problematic version of like what Joo. does or you know what I mean but it's.

it's also it's different you know. because it's like you know he's in the. he really is in the pimp and hose. business it's like if you're running. campsites like that you're really you. know farming those girls out to make. shitloads of money for you for a bunch. of suckers I can't even imagine what the. life of a only fans manager or something. would be yeah there's got to be a lot of. them I would assume I know that there's. a lot of people that they hire that. manage the girls DMS so there's like.

companies I guess is this the case I'm. pretty I've just been told this there's. got to be agencies that are you know. TurnKey we take care of it we'll take. care of it I weirdly got offered to be a. recruiter for one of those oh they. wanted to use my verified account and I. was like what it's going side hust I. mean that's sneaky but what what so what. did they want you to do DM chicks to. offer them like you can be an only fans. I was like. oh God Jamie do you know how bad that. would turn out like well like they don't.

[ __ ] know that already like why would. I have to tell them but if I could. convince them to do it yeah the return. is I get a kickback of their revenue I. just like I just remembered that as you. guys are talking about it so when they. contacted you what did they say like hey. Jamie do you know a lot of girls that. are willing to take the clothes off we. we've noticed your it's one of these uh. DMs I get from multiple accounts for. various reasons but like we've noticed. your account you're you know I have X. amount of followers you know you could. probably be doing this kind of stuff on. Instagram if you do you know and how.

much would they give you I don't off top. of my head I don't remember I could. check I feel like it was 10 20%. something like that that's lucrative. yeah if you can get a bunch of really. [ __ ] I've heard these guys are making. 50% the managers do like they just split. it would surprise me that seems crazy. they're not doing anything though the. girls don't do anything besides make the. content and then the managers are. running the account they're not even. just still 50% se's pretty high because. without the girl you don't have any. I think a lot of naivity around business.

operations though would definitely Drive. girls to think I don't want to deal with. you know accounting I don't want to deal. with this and I don't even know how so. yeah by all means take 50 that's. especially if someone can come to you. with a pitch that says look you can do. this and you can make $33,000 a month or. you can do this with us and you can make. $150,000 a month so yeah you'll get 50%. we'll get 50% but it's a much higher. number that you're going to be dealing. with yeah you're not going to get there. on your own and we have this vast. Network and we can also introduce you.

through other girls like other girls. like this is my friend Cindy like you'll. see them do that on their Instagram page. follow her and then you know they're. just like pumping each other up like. Comics would do like hey go see Mike. he's playing at the haha really funny. guy yeah you know you know CD's got a. great [ __ ] check her out I wonder who. The Joe Rogan of only fans chicks is. there got to be one yeah there got to be. like a ring leader of of all what's your. put All onat 48 million last year I.

think is what I read oh not in that way. I guess yeah different way but she's the. top. of the the rapper oh wow Jesus 48. million Jesus God damn so now you go. show your assole baby I want a. Ferrari like for 48 million like you. better be Jesus well also you could just. do that for three or four years and you. don't have to do [ __ ] for the rest of. your life. izy aelia the new queen of only fans not.

even cardi B can match her racy content. damn she's got a hot body. 48 there you go 48 million good for her. Jesus 45 for party B second that's still. pretty good but here's the wild one is. tigga who's a a guy is this like. self-reported though like how do they. even get these figures they've shown. those most of these have come from them. sharing the figure like online like. they'll take a screenshot or something. but I don't I don't know specifically. each one scroll up we can see the two of. them oh she's. I get it it's like when you see uh I.

don't know like when you Google. somebody's like net worth or something. it's like you know is that actually what. it is I feel like probably not but. that's right here when you say that it. says her net worth is 15 but she just. made reportedly had a network prior to. that 48 million from the website WR a. 320% hike in her overall value that's. crazy wow wow yeah I mean it makes sense. if you're just a business person and. especially if you're uh a celebrity in.

that world like the the female rap world. like what's the longevity of that you've. got a few that hang in there. but I mean how many like. longterm rap females have been super. successful I'm a little ignorant in that. genre yeah I definitely don't follow it. closely so I'm not sure either how's. that tiger guy making all that money. that I don't I would have to he's got me. intrigued what do I have to do I don't I.

mean an extra 20 a year yeah that seems. pretty insanely high for a dude who. probably doesn't post like porn videos. right like what if we uh we had one. episode of the JRE only fans where we. did it only in. jockstraps how would that work probably. would need a jockstrap camera maybe I. don't know it would be like all gay guys. you could say you're in a jock strap. right now nobody would know that's true. that's true um women don't pay for guys. though there's just like there's for.

taiger who's who's paying for him I've. only heard there's a guy that's on the. challenge his name is Dev and this TV. show on MTV and he makes a lot of money. doing that but I think he said yeah it's. just it's all guys I feel like unless. there was sense fullblown porn for gay. dudes to buy I would be very skeptical. of 20 million even if he's like a aess. CB like that seems insane is tigga an. aist CB he's like in the Kardashian. world so he is yeah yeah yeah do he look. like I don't know what A-list actually.

means by the way I don't know what it. means anymore it used to mean nothing. yeah it used to or used to mean you were. only movie stars I think he might have. been with Kendall he's on the. screen that guy makes 20 million a year. he said popular songs but I would. imagine 20 million in a year from only. fans do we have any examples of his only. fans content uh you got to pay for that. bro but there's got to be something you. could find on [ __ ] Reddit my. understanding they're pretty uh intense.

with making sure it stays off of behind. the goes so it says he this says he. deleted his. account oh so his account is him and a. bunch of. chicks that's what his thing is cuz it's. like who's paying for that you know. that's just like Instagram hype content. well if it's him and a bunch of chicks I. could see how you can get guys to pay. for. that oh it's his rod hold up go back to. that go back to that I clicked too many. things real fast I didn't want to be.

staring at it go back to that maybe this. one yeah so he does show his [ __ ] I'd. assume well assuming by this one picture. how do we know in Reddit that it's also. him but that also could be a filter that. makes his dick bigger yeah I bet they. have that they have lip filters for sure. they have filters for your eyes they. give you eyelashes if girls were doing. that you'd be insane to not do it yeah. you want to make some money or not tiger. yeah get that dick filter running IG. guest starts only fans Model Management.

company and he's looking for clients so. he would also be incentivized to say he. makes more from his own to exemplify how. you know Revenue driving he is but are. they. allowing like Tommy Lee self declaration. Tommy Lee's got his [ __ ] out Jesus he's. got that 60-year-old [ __ ] he started. this whole thing weathered CAC so Tommy. Lee Joins only fans so Tommy Lee showing. his. hog y okay so I guess you can kind of.

get away with that of your Tommy Lee. yeah I guess I had a meeting with Tommy. Lee once when he wanted to fight Kid. Rock oh a buddy of mine is one of Tommy. Lee's bodyguards like Tommy Tommy wants. to meet you I'm like okay so I go to one. of their concerts when they when they're. doing that show Rockstar Supernova do. you remember Rockstar Supernova no when. was that it was like a television show. where they put together a band they like. made a band okay and Tommy Lee was a. part of it who else was in.

that uh who is it was that really. handsome guy Dave Navaro wasn't he in in. that. too are these um I don't know but Tommy. Lee was a part of it right at the. pictures I don't oh there's their names. so Lucas Rossy gilby Clark Tommy Lee. Johnny Colt Jason new from Metallica. yeah so they had this thing so anyway we. went to the concert good show and then. after afterwards uh I got to meet Tommy. and Tommy was like I want to fight Kid.

Rock I to kick his [ __ ] ass cuz like. Kid Rock had dated Pamela Anderson and. Tommy used to be married to pamel so. they had some [ __ ] so they were. trying to set up a fight like Kid Rock. and Tommy Lee in a fight so what were. you gonna do like I was going to like. introduce him to trainers and I just. wanted he asked he just wanted to talk. to me about it I did not know what he. wanted to talk about and so then when I. got there I was like hm. okay what do you what's your lifestyle.

like how committed are you to like how. much can you train like how much time do. you think you need to prepare like do. you have any experience at all in Combat. Sports like do you just think you're. going to kick his ass because you hate. him you know and Kid Rock like I put my. money on that [ __ ] like he seems. he seems like a a guy who's hit people. in the head with a rock before so who uh. why didn't that happen oh I don't know a. lot of people there's a lot of those. things that people talk about that never. actually take place cuz the reality of.

it Elon versus Zuck I was supposed to. fight um Wesley Snipes oh yeah yeah yeah. that was real like that was lawyers in. negotiation I was training twice a day. for six months it was [ __ ] hard I was. so tired all the time and I only got. like a taste of what it's like to you. know to train like an MMA fighter cuz I. was I was training knowing that the. fight was eventually going to take place. so I was building up a base so I was. kickboxing in every morning and then I. was doing Jiu-Jitsu every night and I.

was doing it for six months so why did. it fall through I think cuz he knew I. was going to kill him I think in the. beginning he thought that he would be. able to stuff takedowns and he would. kick my ass and then he found out no I'm. Taw one no Champion yeah I'm a kickboxer. that's I'm way better at standing up. than I am on the ground and then I don't. know what happened but there was a bunch. of different demands like at first it. was going to be 50/50 and then you know. he wanted to be 64 and I'd agreed to. everything I said just and then finally.

it was like okay give me just this. amount of money and give him whatever. the [ __ ] else you want I'm like I'm. going to [ __ ] strangle that guy like. let me get a hold of him yeah yeah and. it never happened but I I just wanted to. do I just like this would be a perfect. thing to do like he's never fought in. MMA before I've never done it before. this would be fun and I'll make a lot of. money and just I just the idea of this. guy who had never had any competitive. fights at all ever yeah that he thought. he could do that like okay like you're. not going to know what that feels like.

like I might have done it a long time. ago but I've done it I know what that. feels like when the refere is looking at. you are you ready and then that's a. moment that if you've never experienced. that moment ever in your life and the. bell goes dang and you're like oh [ __ ]. is this real there's just going to be. too much weirdness for him to process. you know and I guess it wouldn't be good. to have that uh blemish on his uh. history just kidding no no I just you. know I think he was doing a lot of blow. if I had to guess cuz he was in a bad.

situation where he owed a lot of taxes. and um he had some advisor those like. you know one of those dudes that tells. you you know it's unconstitutional to. pay taxes look right here there's a few. of those guys out there that will get. you convinced that you know they're not. going to prosecute you because then then. it'll have to be revealed the taxes are. against the Constitution and there's a. there's a lot of wacky people that. people fall under the you know the. influence of unfortunately and he went. up going to jail oh jeez yeah he went up.

going to jail for tax evasion damn dude. how much time do Wesley simes do in. jail would did taxes are a weird one. right because if you owe taxes like if. they find that you you don't just pay. them back they put you in a cage they. did it to Lauren Hill from the Fuji dude. it's like the most odd yeah here it goes. Snipes was convicted on misdemeanor. charges of willful failure to file. federal income tax returns in 20 8 was. sentenced to 3 years in prison after an.

unsuccessful appeal he served 28 months. in federal prison Jesus God damn I think. uh Shakira is also dealing with. something like that right now yeah I. think she got off though really didn't. something happen where she won her. case I think that's was that in Spain. yeah something like that it's like I. wonder what like getting off like even. entails in that cuz if they determined. you owed a bunch of money and haven't. paid. how do you you you just did and they. didn't catch it somehow or how much.

paperwork do you have she struck a deal. she struck a deal a lot of money to pay. okay oh damn yeah accepted the charges. she accepted the charges on a fine of. 50% of the amount owed more than 7.3. million is that pounds what is that. little Mark Euros so she got to not pay. taxes and then paid half the amount how. does that make sense I don't. know man and an extra 500 oh you just. pay an extra 438k and you don't have to.

go to prison yeah that's got to be. unique to where she is I would think. right yeah I think in America they try. to make an example of people especially. famous people hey kids pay your [ __ ]. taxes the IRS does not [ __ ] around yeah. and it's a they're a shady institution. they they go after you yeah yeah have. you ever had a uh situation that was. like [ __ ] I need to get an accountant. like usually there's some sort of like. from day one you're pretty dialed I've. had a business manager for 25 years oh.

damn yeah luckily yeah I've always. wondered how you oversee so much stuff. or if you just have like how you built. the team under you to overse you have to. have people you have to have real people. that really know what the [ __ ] they're. doing that do this for a lot of other. you know High income people yeah yeah. they they know what they're doing they. they make sure you pay all your [ __ ]. taxes and you don't have to think about. it and you don't that is the last place. you want to be is in the hole to the. government that's when you're in the.

hole to the IRS they start auditing you. and find out you've been lying about. this or you know maybe you've been. deducting things you can't deduct. like they start going up your ass with a. microscope is not good and if they find. out that you did willfully not pay taxes. like Snipes they [ __ ] put you in jail. man and they they do it to make an. example out of you because if you're a. famous person like you know Lauren Hill. or some like that how long did she go. away for I think she did a year oh jeez.

yeah it's crazy man they'll take [ __ ]. Superstars and I don't know what her. deal was if it was a similar situation. where someone had told her she doesn't. have to pay taxes cuz like you would. think that people that are making. millions of dollars well you you have to. have some sophisticated people around. you but that's not the case no it's like. often not here it is federal judges. sentenced Lawrence Hill to three months. in prison and three more in house arrest. for failing to pay taxes on close to a.

million dollar in earnings damn which is. crazy because she could have easily made. that million dollars back for the. government and they're like no go to. jail Jesus go to. jail so how do you vet because obviously. you have uh some of the financial. advising people that will tell you weird. Tax Strategies and things that are. sketchy like how do you vet that dude 25. years ago who has been great I got very. fortunate he's very conservative he. doesn't [ __ ] around at all he's like you.

don't want that smoke you want to pay. pay your [ __ ] taxes you know he does. everything by the book you know and. they're really good and they've been. around forever it's like that's what you. need if you it's like you would think. athletes at the highest level of the. game wouldn't be involved in Shady Jim. Bros that might be handing himself. that's getting popped for usada but yet. it happens all the time yeah all the. time there's a lot lot of weird guys. that wind up being sick of Fant and hang. out in Camp that could tell you you know.

this stuff they're using it in Holland. and no one contest for It in America and. you're like oh no one contest for it the. next thing you're taking it did you hear. anything about this that just was going. on right in the background of stuff. that's very important in life I did hear. about it but I didn't hear the details. so it says Glenn Big Baby Davis. convicted an NBA insurance fraud scheme. and what is what was the scheme my. understanding without getting too into. details is that that once these uh. players uh not graduate but when they.

retire they're still afforded some sort. of um pension it's part of the pension I. guess and based off of how they go and. file things certain they get payments. for certain levels of what whatever it. is doctors dentists whatever it is so. fraudulent invoices were created over x. amount of years and they were just. taking the money I. guess and they like I guess a few. players got wrapped up into it but I. remember reading about it it was just. like $1,000 here 1,500 bucks here 2,000.

bucks here and it just adds up yeah but. these are guys that you know NBA. champions made millions of dollars the. thing is you make those millions of. dollars and then your career over and. you're like oh [ __ ] yeah and you got. this lifestyle and you got a house and a. big mortgage and a Rolls-Royce or. something you're like oh yeah I can just. uh how many pro athletes do you know. that have you know been crushing it and. then got weighing over their head with.

lifestyle a lot I know a lot of Fighters. like that and with Fighters it's also. you're compounding the issue of. traumatic brain injury because one of. the things that happens with people that. have been hit in the head a bunch is. they they become very impulsive they. make risky decisions they gamble a lot. they're they're real they're something. gets knocked loose that's a real thing. it happens with football players it. happens with a lot of Fighters and that. those people they lose their impulse.

control it's part of getting hit in the. head a lot it it makes you a little bit. more Reckless which is really wild damn. yeah so they if anyone needs that high. level advice it's those guys but they. would also need someone that they would. be willing to listen to right because a. lot of these people are also very. headstrong you know strong egos they've. been doing it their own way they become. Champions that way and to like adjust. that shift in the way you think and say.

oh I'm kind of a [ __ ] up I'm a little. wild with my I need someone to invest my. money and then find someone who's. willing to do it when your career is. already at this point where hey in three. years from now you're going to be making. zero money MH like if you're a 36y old. Fighter for example and you're competing. in the UFC the odds of you being. competing in the UFC in three years are. so low there's only a few guys that. there's guys like yam bovich who's a. world champion in his 40s um Glover.

toera world champion in his 40s like. most Fighters by the time 40 rolls. around like Daniel cormet is another. example rare very rare to be elite at. that age most of those guys are done and. when when I see a fighter and I see like. a guy who's like on the on the way up 28. and he's fighting a guy who is. established at 36 I'm like ooh this. might be the one because this might be. the time when the wheels fall off right. because all those years of punishment on.

the body you never know what's going on. with injuries like it could be a neck an. a back a hip a knee something that [ __ ]. with them with it's it's not enable them. to train properly they can't make. specific movements when they want to. because it's painful so even though they. look good and they're fighting they. might be compromised like pretty. significantly yeah there's guys that. fight and they have [ __ ] bulging. discs in their neck that are giving them. like nerve pains in their hands and if.

they get caught in a guillotine they're. [ __ ] yeah didn't you uh you said. recently Usman his knees are just. destroyed absolutely decimated destroyed. yeah and we were talking about it. yesterday with Daniel if you if you see. the difference between usman's upper. body he looks like a Greek god and then. you get down to his lower body there's. almost no muscle tone they're thin legs. they're they're tiny legs and a lot of. that is cuz he can't do anything with. them his knees are bone on bone. his cartilage is worn out he has almost. no meniscus they're just D he has to.

walk backwards downstairs damn dude yeah. and he's a world champion has he tried. I'm assuming he's done like pretty much. everything you probably sent him down. yeah he's gone to Colombia got stem. cells but the the problem is and this. it's a big problem with these athletes. is that if you do get like my friend. Shane Dorian do you know he is big wave. surfer Shane just went down to uh Tijana. to the CPI which is a great place to get. stem cells in Mexico he went down there. and they told him once you have this.

procedure so he got a bunch of. injections directly into the discs of. his back to uh to mitigate disc. degeneration disease which is just. essentially like compression of your. body smashing down the discs they told. him you're not doing anything for eight. weeks nothing so for a guy like him it's. like super fit and very active is like. what can I do you can walk like you have. to give these cells time to actually do. their work and if you're constantly. putting stress on those joints after.

they've had stem cells you're just. completely aggravating all these. pre-existing injuries and conditions and. stem cells are never going to get a. chance to do their job like you've got. to give this tissue a chance to repr. proliferate you got to give your body a. chance to heal and it's got they have to. go to work and if you're constantly. beating your body up during that process. it's not going to work you recently had. uh it done and you're taking how much. you have to do the same thing eight. weeks off or yeah you have to you if.

you're doing something like that you. have like a pretty significant injury. like I would imagine this is the the. longest I've heard anybody be asked to. take off and that's I think because. they're going into his discs but I had a. uh torn MCL on my left knee and uh I got. stem cells in it and then like a few. weeks later I was training hard again. like kicking the bag and doing Muay Tha. and kicking pads and it just kept. getting it kept flaring up mhm just what. and then I said okay I see what the [ __ ]. is going on here and I know how.

hard-headed I am I got to take a year. off of Muay Thai and I took a whole year. one year I didn't kick at all and all I. did is those knees over toes guys things. and stem cells and now it's great but I. I had to give it that time it I was just. always re-aggravating the same injury it. would get a little bit better to the. point where it didn't hurt anymore and. then when you're throwing kicks the. amount of torque that is on those joints. when you're going full power you're.

taking your the mass of your body which. in my case is 200 lb you're exploding. off the ground and then you're slamming. your shin into this hard pad over and. over and over and over again it's just. brutal punishment on your joints if. you've got some sort of a compromise if. something's wrong there what was the. recent treatment you had done like what. was it for I had it done just a couple. days ago because I have. I think what is overuse I think it's.

probably like some sort of 10 to nus in. my lower back and it's from archery it's. from you know when you're uh pulling a. bow back I have two bows one is uh 80. lbs to pull back and one is 90 and so. I'm pulling 80 or 90 PBS 150 times a day. damn over and over and over again so. it's this motion where my right arm. pulls back and I'm anchoring in and then. I'm locking it down and a lot of that. stability and locking it down and like. maintaining your posture is in my right.

lower back like that's where like. everything sort of like balances out. that's like the fulcrum or the the the. point where all the stress of my upper. back and my legs meet and that's what. kind of keeps it stable and that was. getting overused to the point where I. would draw my bow back and I could do it. a few times and then like on the 10th. time 11th time it would start to flare. up and was becoming an issue so I got. some stem cell shot into that so do you.

have to take how much time off of the. bow now I have to take some time off. I'll take a couple weeks off okay yeah I. I'll be but I have a easy bow too I have. one bow that I keep at the studio that's. only 60 pounds and so that one doesn't. seem to bother me so I could do that. it's just like as soon as something. bothers me I stop and then I'm doing the. ice bass and I'm rolling it out I'm. shooting bpc 157 in there and it's. better it's it's already pretty sign. significantly better nice yeah that's uh. is that so part of your daily routine is.

like 150 shots no no like you said every. day 100 to 150 oh yo shots with the. arrow yes yes I thought you dc7 that. would be insane no no yeah every day is. like a 100 at least 100 shots so that's. just here or where do you I have it I. have a range here at the studio um. that's an indoor range and then I have. at my house I have an outdoor range you. got to show around after I don't think. I've ever even seen have you seen a gym. no oh yeah we got a great gym it's like.

a real gym gym that you would like pay a. membership for is it it's pretty dope. public or no no I'm Comedians and my. security staff are the only ones that. use it and so it's like you know I've. been doing these comedian workouts where. I take these guys that you know they've. been talking about it for a while they. don't work out at all and I'm like look. come down we'll have a fun time we'll. laugh around a bit and we'll I'll start. you off real light I started them out. with just body weight exercises like. we're going to do I do like a series of.

100 push-ups and 100 body weight squats. every day and it's what what I do is. that's how I warm up from my cold plunge. so I start the cold plunge that's the. first thing I do and then I do once I'm. done with 100 body weight squats and 100. uh push-ups then I can start working out. because I'm pretty warm by then and then. I'll start doing my other stuff and so. what I would do with these guys is I. would start them out with the body. weight squats and the push-ups and I'm. like don't you don't have to do sets of. 20 I'm like if you could do five if you. could do 10 do five because we're going. to do five sets and so you'll wind up.

doing 25 push-ups and you wind up doing. 25 body weight squats which is not a lot. but I'm just trying to build them on a. base and then I had them doing very. light kettle bells you know like 10. kilograms and you're doing swings and. you know I'm teaching them how to rack. and cleans and presses and then I work. them into windmills and then once I got. them going for a little then one day the. rock came so we had a serious workout. and I'm like just everybody try to keep. up but we're going to get after it today. we who chooses what okay me so the rock.

does your yeah he did my workout yeah. which is cool to see him do because he. you know I think what he mostly does is. stuff that generates size I think he. does a lot of machines yeah he seems. like a like very bodybuilding focus and. Longevity for his joints and whatnot cuz. he's in his 50s now and he did football. pro wrestling for years I mean it beats. your [ __ ] body out of all those guys. that are retired pro wrestlers he is. unquestionably in the best condition.

like he's not like Hulk Hogan comes in. he's he's got a crutch you know and he's. [ __ ] up he's he's got to walk with a. cane his back he's had like seven I. think he lost four or five inches of. height damn due to back surgeries damn. cuz they're just fusing all his you got. to think you got a little space in. between each spinal column and then that. goes away that goes away that goes away. so everything is compress rest and then. that creates all sorts of problems in. your body cuz everything's kind of out.

of a line now and then your back is one. stiff Rod because everything's fused. it's [ __ ] but the Rocks avoided all. that like he's in pretty good he's not. that mobble like we had them do like. windmills you know what a windmill is. you clean press with a kettle bell and. then you go down like this with your. hand all the way down to the ground and. then all the way back up that was a. struggle for him oh he's pretty tall too. I he's huge dude but he's just he's. doing mostly like bench press squats.

he's doing things with machines leg. curls leg extensions I think he does a. lot of machine stuff which is probably. the safest way to do that [ __ ] does he. usually train on his own with no workout. partner yeah he does seems like every. video he's like in a gym that's like. been propped up somewhere M and it's. still like all the equipment is there. but there's no one there and it's like a. mobile facility I guess yeah that's. that's what he does I mean he has that. and then he has this enormous uh place.

at his house yeah so it's all see it. it's all machines I mean he does have. some dumbbells but the vast majority of. what he's utilizing is you know machines. which you know you really can get strong. and you really can't get big with those. yeah but what those things don't seem to. do is allow for coordination through use. of movement that would give you. functional strength yeah yeah a lot of. it is uh you become very limited in your.

ability to do actual athletic Maneuvers. too like even when I first started. bodybuilding I was teaching swimming. lessons and was a lifeguard and I would. go to I had to teach the kids certain uh. different kinds of strokes and whatnot. and my backstroke in particular the. mobility of my shoulder and actually. being able to get it past my ear even it. was like I was like smashing my head. with my delt and I I couldn't even like. keep a straight arm CU I was so. inflexible. and it was uh that was the first time I. noticed damn this is really limiting.

yeah yeah like you become athletic. looking and like you could do things at. a high level because you just you look. good objectively but the actual athletic. performance capacity is dramatically. hindered if you don't focus on that. stuff well certainly with bodybuilding. right I mean if you see those guys that. are competing in the Mr Olympia I can't. imagine that there's much that they can. do yeah like that uh Tom havland guy oh. yeah he's a great example of Jack this.

[ __ ] huge and does a lot of like. functional type stuff yes yeah what is. his deal yeah he's a interesting. character for sure I uh I think he's. former Special Forces he's uh he kind of. I think he used to compete in certain uh. strength events um powerlifting. potentially um there is some videos on. YouTube from a long time ago and he's. his face is actually showing which a lot. of people don't know about but um yeah.

he's like 68 350 right now I think yeah. he's trying to get to 400 lbs that was. his thing yeah I think he did before I. don't know if he's still trying to get. to 400 but yeah the guy is a a [ __ ]. freak Show for sure a real freak Show. yeah and he's like it's his equipment. it's like you don't even know where it. came from it's like is this a [ __ ]. piece of uh like railroad equipment or. something I know a lot of it is like. [ __ ] he built and what's really crazy is. most of the stuff he's wearing work. boots yeah and like a a [ __ ]. Lumberjack shirt or some [ __ ] like look.

at this like how odd is it that he wears. all these clothes while he. trains yeah like there's definitely a I. wouldn't want to work out in Gans. personally like that would be the last. thing I'd want to wear like why is he. doing that like what is what is the. mentality about like I guess. it's it's got to be you just like the. way it looks man I guess it cuz it's. certainly not for function or F or. anything right like why is he wearing. work boots why is he wearing jeans what.

I mean why is why does he never show his. face it's like the ultimate Blue Collar. you know this one's wild he carries a. log while he's got offset weight so the. the chain is wrapped around his right. arm and then he's dragging 100 pounds. behind him when goggin ask who's going. to carry the boats and logs I showed. them this. guy I mean what a strange thing to do. but he also is a big advocate of. carrying things like one of the things.

he said if if you want to get strong. take something heavy and carry it around. yeah yeah and it's like uh stuff that. actually would translate into you know. real life yeah look at this [ __ ] like. this guy will carry your groceries bro I. mean this is insane this farmers carry. he's like how much weight is that 410. lbs Farmers carry yeah what's that Jamie. each hand 4 And1 it says farmers walk. with 800 10 each hand 12 me my God now.

look at that look at those those are not. weights those are like gears like what. are those things that he's got on the. sides yeah he's got like uh one plate. and then the other thing looks like a. gear so everything he does is like these. really awkward movements but then he. supplements that with traditional stuff. like zerra squads deadlifts. yeah I don't know why he's uh I think. his Instagram's private now too yeah I.

don't know burned or intake intake. today's calories. 6,389 jeez Louise which is like you know. for his size yeah I can I can believe it. 100% he's [ __ ] [ __ ] 69 or whatever he. is yeah I I don't understand his like uh. branding though around the whole don't. show my face private Instagram like h I. don't know what it is because like. obviously the the posts are to document. progress and or inspire people or bring.

attention to programs or. something but then it's like I don't. know maybe he got a lot of harassment or. something now you get to see him without. a sh off oh there we go [ __ ] gu's a. house look at the size of that. [ __ ] I think that's why he wears. all those clothes that's very. distracting from what he's doing if he's. just trying to show you how strong he is. you're just like look how like look at. this he's doing an axle with two wheels. on it yeah like. what imagine driving by and seeing this.

guy just walking around in the [ __ ]. field yeah carrying logs and [ __ ] yeah. look at he's got two wheels on each side. he's. doing these. shrugs very strange stuff yeah now he's. pulling things with his neck I mean he. literally looks like a superhero yeah. yeah I what is his jail house strong is. it does he have program that you can. buy I think I think so cuz he's got a.

website CU that's one of the things that. he says book series what is it go to it. I'm I'm trying to do everything I want a. while no worries no frills training gas. station ready Amazon selling book. series joil House strong well. Instagram is jail house strong a website. you go to jail house strong.com like. that it's just like a Facebook profile. go to jail housr strong.com see if. there's a website Peril okay so jail.

house strong is just his apparel it's. all. him it's always giant. back I guess so yeah yeah he's. definitely not overly promotional though. almost wouldn't even know that he has. anything yeah that's what's really. strange about it is like what is he. doing I don't know yeah I I don't know. man he's getting people to talk about it. for sure maybe that's part of the. Mystique Brian K sent it me first he. goes you need to see this freak yeah and. he goes you heard Tom havland I go no he.

just reads me all the details of like. how big this guy is and all of his. videos of him from behind lifting insane. amounts of weight oh jeez I feel like. every year I'm going to be asking the. same question is Brian Ken on trt yet. not yet oh my God I don't get it fall. apart he's waiting to die literally I. don't understand it yeah he claims his. testosterone's fine oh really okay. okay yeah I I I don't know who he's. going to he's like certain friends.

listen and certain friends are stubborn. and they just don't listen and you're. like okay do what you know do whatever. you want to do with all these comedian. guys I was telling them forever as long. as they would listen I'm like if you. have more energy you'll be able to do. more things in your life like forget. about what you look like but you will. most certainly look better if you lift. weights and work out and eat well but. maybe more importantly you'll have more. energy for everything you do in life. including Go on stage like I'm 56 years.

old I still do two shows a night Tuesday. Wednesday and Thursday that's six hours. of comedy in three days and I don't get. that tired I'm fine cuz I'm fit I eat. well I'm healthy I'm like I have energy. like you don't have energy like you guys. get tired doing one show what's your. current uh I don't know like. supplementation Andor like drugs for you. know staying dialed or mentally sharp or. is there is it just perfect diet or well.

uh for supplementation I'm I've recently. had Gary Brea on the podcast oh yeah and. start I started taking all the different. methylated vitamins and things that he. recommends I just started doing it I. can't tell I feel great but I can't tell. if it's been an improvement I also. ordered one of his light Beds which seem. Dana White's face looks like he's 10. years younger and there's a thing that. happened to him that happens everyone. when you lose body fat I noticed when I. get on the carnivore diet like like your. cheeks get kind of sucked in and you.

kind of look like [ __ ] because it's like. you don't have face fat anymore which. kind of fills your face out more so your. face starts getting like kind of sunken. in his face did that at first and then. it plumped up again and I'm like what's. going on with that and and he's like. it's the red light bed like the red. light bed increases collagen in your. skin and you use it every day and he. uses it he's got a routine that Gary. Brea does what does he call it the. superhuman protocol something I forget. what he calls it is Dana still like I'm.

pretty sure he was on a keto diet when. he was dieting down is he still on he. said he's going to be on that forever. he's like dude I feel so good I have so. much energy and so much mental Clarity. because I'm staying Keo forever he. hasn't added carbs cyclically around. work training no cuz that would. definitely be like he's holding less. water in his face too when you have no. carbs right so that would be a big you. know suck out of there yeah well that's. what happened with me for sure when I. got on the War diet that's one of the. things I know I lost a shitload of body. fat like I got really ripped like pretty.

easily like this is kind of. extraordinary and also the thing that. that's the most beneficial to me is the. uh mental focus and Clarity which I did. I mean I did it once before in like four. or five years ago I did it for a month. and I lost 12 lbs but I kind of always. went off it on it eat pizza have pasta. you know one or two days a week I'll. [ __ ] off but I've been really good at it. for the last couple months like I had a. slice of pizza last night and then on.

Saturday night I had some sushi the. majority of my diet though then that's. rare I won't do that again for another. month or so the majority of my diet is. all just meat and eggs and game meat and. bacon and it's it's all just healthy fat. I'll still eat avocados and avocado oil. and I'll occasionally have a piece of. fruit but the vast majority of my diet. is just animal- based so you don't like. I feel feel like one last time I was. here we were talking about like fruit. and adding it in around your workouts. and whatnot like is that sometimes I'll.

still do that I'll have like a banana. before I work out okay but it's not. every day it's like once a week. something like that the like or I'll. have like berries and yogurt but most of. my food is animal-based and when I do. that I have a. 100% recognition that there's an extra. gear that I have mentally like when I do. the PO when when I first started doing. it again. I I remember I came home once from my. club and I was a little drunk and I was.

like I can't drink every night at this. [ __ ] club like this is just too it's. too fun I'm hanging out with these. comedians we're at the bar we're all. laughing you know anybody want to get a. shot all right do a shot and then I get. home I'm like God damn it I got to clean. my act up and I'm like you know what I. really need to go back to that carnivore. diet because that's when I felt my best. so I go back to it and then within two. weeks I notice a clear difference in my. mental Clarity and this is someone with. me who already takes I take this Alpha. Brain Black Label I take neurogum I'm.

already taking things that enhance my. focus but this is a difference like a. noticeable difference and so that's when. I decided okay this is how I'm going to. eat from now on because this this just. seems to be for sure the way my body. optimate uh optimizes performance like I. just there's no other thing that I do. that has that big of an impact yeah. that's uh when you wake up is it like. your your waking energy levels are. heightened to or is it just a stability. of those that don't wildly fluctuate.

throughout the day and they stay. constant yeah it's the stability I'm. always tired when I wake up but then I. get in the cold plunge and I wake right. the [ __ ] up there's no it's like the on. switch when you wake up in the morning. and and you know and I. always I'll look at my phone I'll. [ __ ] pet the dog I'm trying to put it. off do you still have the mental battles. in the morning yeah yeah I mean I win. but they're there every [ __ ] day. every day when I get up to that cold. plunge I'm like should I listen to music.

maybe I'll listen to music this time and. then I'll get my go I'll got to go get. my headphones so then I get my airpods. and then what song do I listen to so. it's all procrastination yeah but then. once you get in there all that shit's. [ __ ] and then you're just freezing. your dick off for three minutes [ __ ]. [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] and today was just. covered in ice I'm just pushing the ice. aside and climbing in but when I get out. after 3 minutes it's just this Rush of. endorphins that you just feel [ __ ].

amazing you feel great and then my. mind's firing and then I'm in a great. mood you just got to get through it do. you still uh train right after yes okay. today I didn't because today I was up. really late last night like a bunch of. people like Daniel Cormier came to the. club last night and Gordon Ryan and uh. my friend Anthony from the UFC and there. was just like a [ __ ] Michael bisbing was. there so we were all at the bar till. like 2:00 in the morning we were all.

just laughing and having fun so I came. home then I had some food watched a. little YouTube I didn't get to bed till. like 4:30 so I woke up at 11:00 just got. in the cold plunge did whatever [ __ ] I. had to do to the house and then made it. to the studio today but today's the rare. day where I didn't work out right after. the cold plunge what's like a a typical. day in the life is it like wake up cold. Plunge workout yes then eat something in. podcast or like yes okay yeah and then.

after that yeah usually my first meal is. at noon okay you know usually my first. meal I'm generally waking up in the. morning saying goodbye to my kids. getting the cold plunge starting my. workout routine and then my workout. routine is always followed by sauna so. cold plunge starts it off I heat my body. back up through body weight squats and. push-ups and then depending upon the day. I have a i i create my own routines and. I found that that's the best way to do. it for me where I know like what I I.

write it all down on a whiteboard and. then I know like what I have been doing. and I know like okay um I I'm doing. pretty well with this weight let's ramp. this weight up a little bit let's let's. change the Reps let's add in these let's. add in one or two extra you know. kettlebell movements to this routine you. know so I'm I'm working out for an hour. and a half or so and then when that's. over I do the sauna for 20 to 25 minutes. and then uh then I eat is that typically.

here like you come here typically here. or when I'm doing these comedian boot. camp things when I'm bringing the comics. in so what I do is I'll tell them don't. try to keep up with me just I want you. to do like can you do a chin up okay if. you can do a chin up I want you to do. one chin up if you can do three chin-ups. I want you to do two just do two stop. I'm going to give you like five minutes. of rest and then we're going to do dips. I'm I'm trying to like get them through. these routines where they're not like. struggling to pick up a fork the next.

day so you know I I started. incorporating the torque sled do you. ever use that no no that thing's [ __ ]. fantastic we have a really we have a 40. yard strip of AstroTurf and then we have. this torque sled and it's a. resistance-based it's a really. phenomenal sled because you don't have. to put weight on it you just reach down. and crank the gears up and so you could. put up a tremendous amount of resistance. on it so it's really hard to push and. then we push it all the way down and. then we pull it all the way back yeah.

finding uh I would like to do sled but. public gyms often it's uh you're that. guy when you're like walking through the. [ __ ] middle of the entire walkway so. there's only so much you can do with the. flexibility on that but um I yeah I. would like to do it at some point yeah. you kind of almost have to take the sled. out into the parking lot or something or. a place to do it I used to do it in my. yard I had one um that I would do. outside just I would uh strap this uh. weight thing around my waist a weight. belt and clip the cord to the sled and.

then I would stack like you know like 90. lbs on the sled and then just do a lot. of is doing it backwards so would i'. pull it backwards which is really good. for your knees that's like what Ben. Patrick the knees over toes guy what he. recommends so I would do that a lot but. then I got the torque sled it's just so. much better that's the Tor that thing's. the [ __ ] because you can change the. gearing and so like for a lighter person. you can make it a little bit easier and. then if you really want to go hard you.

could crank that [ __ ] way the [ __ ] up. and it's [ __ ] hard to do yeah I might. start doing uh reverse it's like reverse. treadmill walking that's my favorite. this way yeah reverse tadm walking is. great too apparently it's like a maybe. it's not as it's not as good as this. obviously but it's like I've had patella. tendonitis for years and I've kind of. just like left it essentially and the. knees over toes stuff that's kind of. like the next best alternative to sled. work it seems like yeah so I should uh.

yeah the knees over toes stuff is great. I do like with my body weight squats I. do them on a slant board oh nice so my. knee is going way down and I'm going all. the way you know as to heels and all the. way back up and it's made a giant. difference in my abil because when I go. elk hunting my ability to move around. through the woods my legs have gotten. way bigger just from doing that every. day but also I add you you know like uh. goblet squats with kettle bells I'm. doing lunges I'm I'm adding a bunch of.

other things to it but the the. consistent one every day is the body. weight squats not a day goes by where. I'm not doing 100 body weight squats and. 100 push-ups because it's pretty easy to. do it takes 10 minutes you could just do. it just force yourself to do it who do. you think's the most uh improved. comedian body composition wise zero of. them no they they still eat terrible but. they feel better which is the most. important thing so I've got them feeling. better now in January Jan you usually do.

like a November or October competition. with certain October yeah sober October. but that's with bur Cher and Tom sigura. and Ari shafir okay um but with what I'm. doing with these guys is in January. we're going to do uh a carnivore diet. only so January is apparently World. carnivore month that's when I first. started trying I like okay let's it's a. thing where like if you know that other. people are doing it and you're you're. being held accountable and you declare.

that you're going to do it hop on and. try it so I'm going to tell these guys. for the whole month of January I want. you to eat nothing but meat and eggs. just nothing but meat eggs fish Fat get. get all your your healthy fats or meats. and eggs and you can have some avocados. I want you to eat bacon but I want you. to just completely cut out all sugar all. bread all pasta all rice all [ __ ]. and let's see how you feel at the end of.

the month but you got to commit to it. and so they're all on board for that. that is where they're going to see. radical body change because they're just. going to they're going to reduce their. body fat you're satiety level from just. eating meat is so different it's it's. crazy people that have a problem. overeating like I have a problem. overeating like if if I have a pizza in. front of me I will eat that [ __ ]. whole pizza if I have a bowl of ice. cream or a carton of ice I'll eat the. whole carton it's something I've noticed. is a portion control of like men vers.

women I don't know what it is but like. dudes it's whatever is in front of me I. will decimate the whole thing but for. girls it's like oh I'll have a little. piece of this a little piece of that. wonder if they're doing that around us. and how they are because it's not bad. for a guy to overeat in front of a woman. ah right you know like if a guy has a. sits down for with a 22 o cowboy riye. and a side of mashed potato like no one. no woman is going to go what are you. doing yep you know they you think they.

secretly want to decimate it too I think. so I think I think especially when it. comes to like carbs and pasta I think. it's just human what do you do for uh. because this is interesting because. Peter AA for example is known as like. one of the foremost longevity experts. he's seen as you know the go-to guy for. a lot of uh I don't know people seek. education from his content and whatnot. yeah but. even him with his dialed in practices. and whatnot if the stuff is in his house. he will still go off the rails so he.

last time I talked to him he was uh. mentioning how him and his wife were. having an argument about keeping. drumsticks in the freezer for their kids. cuz when it's there he just slams three. of them and it like pisses him off so. now he has this deal where he just takes. his kids to ice cream whenever they want. ice cream rather than having it. physically in the house yeah would it. like obviously you have kids how do you. handle that um well believe it or not my. kids eat really well um especi my. youngest daughter has really gotten into. fitness and it's kind of this strange.

shift where she gets up in the morning. and hits the gym before she goes to. school and she'll Run 10 miles wow it's. nuts dude it's been watching Gog and. [ __ ] I don't know what it is man but. something switched in her you know it's. been pretty recently like over the last. five months she's super. consistent you know I mean it's it's. very strange like I'll get up if I have. to get up early and it's like 6:30 in. the morning and uh she's in the [ __ ].

gym that's defin she's in the gy riding. the treadmill probably helps you as well. for like well it's inspiring and I'm I'm. proud of her it's because no one's. telling her to do this yeah and then she. you know what happened she got a. Fitbit she said I want to get a Fitbit. and so we got her a Fitbit and then. she's like hm what's the what's the. what's the step goal that more most. people have and so she's been getting. like 20 8,000 steps in a day holy [ __ ]. dude she's a maniac it's nuts and her. body's changing like the only time I get.

that is if I'm in Europe on a vacation. or some [ __ ] yeah yeah it's pretty. amazing well she does Sports you know. she does volleyball and basketball and. soccer she does a lot of different. sports okay but she's noticing also that. it's an improvement in her sports like. she's not getting tired when the other. girls are getting tired she's like let's. [ __ ] go you know it's like it's kind. of interesting but it's also it's so. weird how your kids will just like. something will snap into them and then. they'll be really into this thing and.

then that becomes the new part of their. life yeah I think that's one of the uh. the biggest reasons for uh using those. trackers and whatnot like gamifying it. is I think for some people kind of the. thing they need to make it interesting. enough to follow and want to beat. Personal records and whatnot yes so it's. kind of interesting because that I don't. know you're obviously familiar with. Brian Johnson we talked about him before. the not Brian Johnson liver King Brian. Johnson the the the bi billionaire vegan.

longevity dude he has like this Age. Tracker that tracks his chronological. versus his biological age and he has. like this leaderboard where people are. also competing against each other for. rate of aging and this leaderboard is. constantly shifting with all these. people who are getting on board trying. to optimize whatever biomarkers they can. and you know their uh exercise Reg. supplementation diet Etc and it's the. biological clocks are kind of not.

founded in science necessarily but the. is it me measuring telr like what are. they measuring it's it's like a. methylation so it's as much as you could. point. to the results of it and it would show. an outcome that reflects a rate of Aging. that is potentially slower than what. your normal chronological aging would be. which is you know like one year equals 1. year you could be 6 per year if you were. doing everything amazingly. potentially but still that is highly.

manipulatable via like very very acute. changes so if you do something for. example if you're super healthy for even. one or a few days you could change the. result of that plus minus like 10 years. so so often like I think there was one. study where the same guys tried multiple. different tests and each test had a. different result based on just what they. were doing at the time so it was like. obviously if it was a legit tracker it. would your age biologically would not.

shift 10 years every day it would make. no sense right so anyway this. leaderboard though although the science. is kind of you know not necessarily. founded it's cool to see the. gamification of it where people are at. least trending with things that are. improving their state of uh like quality. of life performance Etc so as much as. like the whole like the problem with. with it obviously is when people start. to monetize the age clocks and start to.

sell you supplements and [ __ ] around it. to try and help your biological age drop. faster or whatever but overall people. are tracking this stuff and getting. meticulous about trying to beat each. other they're competing to get as. healthy as possible doing all the right. things so yeah it's pretty interesting. and he's uh interesting constantly. talking about how he's like you know top. ranked and fill in the blank metric um. isn't he on a vegan diet as well yeah. which is uh it's really interesting. because like some of the stuff he does I.

think is great like he's putting out. good information but then sometimes it's. like I think his total calorie intake is. like. 2,250 his protein is like barely 100. grams which for your body weight is not. that great and then obviously the the. value of the protein from the vegan diet. is questionable depending where you're. getting it and then on top of that he's. using testosterone to maintain his. hormones as they're suppressed via the. diet model he's on so he like he has all. these metrics that he touts as you know.

check out my improvements in these. biomarkers and you'll say I'm top. 0.01% in grip strength for my age or top. 1% in you know liver markers or what. have you but then you'll be like I'm top. 1% in testosterone and it's like yeah. you put it in there yeah like no [ __ ]. buddy so you could be higher than that. if you want yeah you can manually change. it tomorrow you could be top 0.01%. but um yeah overall the stuff he's doing. is uh it's interesting and people. overall like the gamification of it I.

think is good to keep people I don't. know make it more interesting and want. to actually improve I wonder what led. him to try the vegan diet because if. he's so meticulous about monitoring his. nutrition his supplement intake he's got. to know that the most nutrient-dense. form of food is meat yeah but he has. like 7,000 supplements so you can just. make up for it can you though I don't. know dude it's I would guess he kind of. could I I was definitely what eat daily. nutty pudding extra virgin olive oil so.

like my understanding is based on. whoever he has on his team interpreting. nutrition literature and Drug literature. as well will dictate his choices of what. he's doing and I think he also has like. an ethical stance on uh meat consumption. to some extent oh okay um but that makes. sense he also claims that every calorie. he eats has intent behind it to where. it's driving like the highest value from.

a longevity perspective which is. questionable obviously when you're. looking at like like what the [ __ ] are. some of these meals right yeah has. dinner at 11:00 a.m. yeah yeah what so. what time does he get. up 1:00 a.m. what the [ __ ] so maybe has. one of those restricted calorie eating. days he intermittent fasts for a big. chunk of the day and then he compresses. it and makes sure it's far enough away. from going to sleep to not mess with his. Sleep Quality mhm and then he has. apparently like one of the best whoop.

sleep scores on Earth supposedly is what. he claims which you know I wouldn't. doubt is legit but I mean like that's an. example too of gamification which is is. cool in my opinion is when you can track. Trends in oh last night my heart rate. elevated by x amount which is abnormal. why did it happen oh maybe it was that I. ate you know this snack that's shitty. for me 5 minutes before went to sleep. and then my body temperature elevated it. was harder to get to sleep and my heart. rate's trying to you know I'm. metabolizing food while I'm literally.

trying to sleep at the same time like. there's stuff you can see in the. feedback which is cool cuz you wouldn't. dig into it yourself otherwise. necessarily so when you have it in this. nice laid out like visually friendly. format too and it's giving you. notifications hey tonight you should. probably you stop eating 2 hours before. sleep or what happened yesterday your. HRV is lower and perhaps focus more on. recovery like. that kind of stuff I think is cool so it. is cool and that is one of the aspects.

of these fitness trackers that some. people have said can be an issue because. they they have the same sort of. addictive qualities that video games do. because you're CH chasing numbers you're. chasing steps per day calories burned it. could go off the rails for sure for some. people yeah but at the same time too I. know a lot of people who would never get. 10,000 steps if it wasn't on a Tracker. of some sort yeah the The Trackers are. we used to use we when we did the sober. October fitness challenge we used the my. zones tracker okay have you seen that.

one no no it's a you're wearing a chest. strap and it gives you points based on. how much energy you exert and how much. time you spent at like 80% max heart. rate so what we feel we realized when we. started doing this challenge like the. challenge was for someone to get the. highest score by the end of the month. what we realized is like burning it out. in the red you don't burn you can't go. as far so you can't do as many calories.

in a day and you can't get as many. points in a day it's just too hard your. body breaks down but you can stay in the. yellow for a pretty long time and the. yellow is like 140 beats per minute and. so it ramped up where we were getting a. certain score like 200 a day 300 a day. and then one day Ari realized you can. watch movies on an iPad while you're on. a treadmill yeah and you just keep going. isn't it weird how sometimes Common. Sense stuff totally escapes you and then. all of a sudden you realize one day I.

could have been [ __ ] yeah doing. listening to music when I'm in the cold. plunge or something yeah well instead of. just straight suffering through the. cardio you're getting engaged with this. film and it just becomes normal yeah so. you're just breathing heavy while you're. watching you know Apocalypse Now or. something it's like got you riveted and. so Ari racked up a big score one day. like 400 points we're like what the [ __ ]. did you do he's like sorry boys game. changer I realized you can watch movies. while you're on cardio and then we.

started going really crazy and one day I. did seven hours of cardio cuz I wanted. to break the guys cuz B Cher was talking. [ __ ] so I did seven hours of cardio and. I I ramped up an 1,00 score for the day. I set off the fire alarm in my gym from. sweating holy [ __ ] dude yeah I got a. video of it I there's puddles of sweat. on the ground where it looked like I. threw water everywhere yeah so I'm. constantly drinking water and. electrolytes like constantly and sugar I. was drinking like cans of Coca-Cola root.

beer I just needed some form of like. quick easy calories while I was doing. here give me some volume on this from my. workout then I set off the [ __ ] fire. alarm oh my God holy [ __ ] Jesus Christ. look at that puddle boys yeah that was. when I was walking watching John Wick. like 50 times in a. row but yeah like that was I mean that.

was October in California so it's like. wasn't that hot out it was like normal. temperature out and I'd made that room. so hot from just from my body weight. that the the steam from my body set off. the fire alarm have you uh have you ever. got a walking uh like a standing desk. before no so one of the most wild things. I've seen and maybe this is is more. common than I know but Ben Greenfield. the like longevity biohacking dude.

you've had him on a couple times I think. yeah yeah he uh essentially every time. he's doing a podcast he's walking on. like a treadmill with his desk in front. of him or walking outside so the guy is. literally never not in motion. essentially like he is I don't know how. many steps he gets in a day but a lot of. people maybe in that space like the. biohacking niche are literally like. raising their desks shoving a treadmill. underneath it and then like making sure. they're getting stepped while doing. emails or while podcasting which is.

pretty wild I think that makes sense I. mean if you could just walk around and. do podcasting you could do that but for. me my desk at home in particular is for. writing yeah and when I couldn't imagine. writing standing personally I I I need I. need no distractions when I'm writing I. need a blank like I use Focus mode on. Microsoft Word where you don't see. anything no notifications pop up you. don't see your tray you don't see. anything I just see the text on the. screen that's it that's the only way I.

can do it and then I have to really like. lock in for hours just doing that if I. was walking it would just be another. thing that my body would be occupied in. that would take away the resources from. thinking did you ever get a a burner. phone that has no apps and stuff I think. you were talking about I have I have a. phone that has no apps yeah okay has it. made a big difference it has it makes a. difference but my friends still send me. these [ __ ] in Instagram links and I I. have two numbers now okay and uh the the. old one still has you know Instagram on.

it and all that jazz but it. significantly cuts down on my use of it. significantly yeah because most of the. time see this is what I found out if you. have two phones and one phone if you. have an iPhone and one phone the. iMessage is hooked up to your number and. the other one the iMessage is hooked up. to your email account you still get all. the text messages from the old number. because they're going to the iMessage uh. email account so that's how this phone. is set up so you really can't call me.

okay but you you can send me text. messages and the text message will go. there but I also found that if someone. calls me on the other one and I have. this phone hanged up to the email. account the phone with the email account. will ring they're not even calling the. same number oh Jesus yeah that's. annoying I didn't know that did you know. that Jamie it's a setting it's the. setting setting you got turn off or on I. suppose so I so I toggle it okay yeah so. I'll switch it back just to the phone.

number and then nothing comes through. you it's a good hack I saw um uh Alex. heroi if you guys know him he's a like a. business entrepreneur content creator um. super jacked yeah super [ __ ] jacked. and um he has this hack that uh he. mentioned where you basically go into. your color filter settings and you set. it to grayscale and just like that. Instagram is like 50% less enticing to. [ __ ] around on that makes sense yeah so. like next time you're on the toilet you. pull out your phone it's like oh [ __ ].

it's black and white I don't care about. this yeah it's a Time suck boy and I. always trick myself into thinking that. I'm going to get something out of it for. material there's got to be something. that I connect with here that's going to. like what and I'll get one of those. every 10 days 15 days yeah but those. other days is just nonsense yeah it's. just looking at muscle cars and [ __ ]. nonsense yeah the uh I don't know if. it's the algorithms are changing or what.

but the explore feeds are kind of [ __ ]. up now for mine are all murder. dude my Twitter at least is basically. that yeah yeah Twitter's wild under Elon. did you see that that interview he did. with the New York Times the other day oh. yeah he would like told him to [ __ ] go. [ __ ] yourself let me be clear go [ __ ]. yourself adverti on my platform go [ __ ]. yourself how much has he changed since. you first met him to now cuz at least. based on podcast uh Behavior he seems.

wild wildly different and more loose and. broish he's having fun yeah he's a fun. guy to be around like and he was here um. last time he was here he brought his son. and you know he's hanging out with his. kid he's like a fun guy he's not like. people have this idea he's this like. [ __ ] serious driven business. businessman which he most certainly also. is MH but he manages it all really well. like he's always laughing he was he like.

off camera the first time you met him. too or did it kind of was like a warmup. period Well I think it was a warm-up. period he has to get to know you yeah. and know he can trust you I mean when. you're in the richest guy in the world. there's probably a lot of people cutting. angles on you and probably gets really. odd but what I did notice is that the. first time we did the podcast when I. first met him he was super loose and. relaxed like he has his [ __ ] he. brought he brought me a a blowtorch that. not a what is it not a flamethrower.

boring or what is yeah I forgot what the. company name is so we so he's there's. famous photos of him in my studio firing. off this [ __ ] flamethrower with 17t. of Fire coming off the end of this in. the middle of our lobby and I'm like. what the [ __ ] you do it he's just wild. but I guess when you have that much. money you're not you really have zero. concerns like you could just be if. you're that guy you could just be kind. of a silly guy and he's just fun he just.

likes to have a good time and on the. podcast though it took a while to loosen. him up I think. the there's also like that there's a. thing that happens to people when they. come on podcasts at least this one where. the scale of it hits them yeah it's like. the UFC Championship podcast thing. essentially yeah it's like just the. numbers of people that will be paying. attention yeah you know but once we. started drinking we had a couple of. glasses of whiskey and then things got.

loose then we're having a good time you. know yeah one thing that's really good. about this I'm sure you've heard this a. million times but how chilled the setup. is with you guys it's like I've been on. podcast where it's like I feel like I'm. on a uh I don't know like the news or. something or it's some like big. production and it's pretty intimidating. when you have seven camera crew guys is. running around you every two seconds and. there's you know seven different camera. angles that you're thinking about and oh. don't shift this way too much oh don't.

do that yeah and here it's uh I think a. lot of people would be surprised how. like chill and laidback the whole setup. is it's by Design yeah like it's. definitely the most conducive to a real. conversation I feel like yeah you don't. want a bunch of people in the room with. you like I've done people shows where. you have people in the room with I go do. you understand that these people are. distracting yeah it's like it's going to. take away for the conversation I think a. lot of people and I'm not a podcaster by. any means but I think they're of the. opinion that higher production value. consistently no matter how high it gets.

equals better without thinking about the. detriment it has to the actual. conversation and becomes very. manufactured yeah well I think. particularly with this kind of podcast. you have to be aware of what are you. making well what you're making is a. conversation that you want to be as easy. to listen to as possible so you want the. person who's the guest to be as. comfortable as possible you want to give. them as much space you don't want to. interrupt you want them to be you want. them to feel good you want everybody to. be having fun and be friendly and have.

them be the most relaxed so you can have. an enjoyable conversation that you would. digest if you were on a road trip or you. on a treadmill like that's what I'm. trying to do and the only way to do that. is to make people comfortable and the. only way to make people comfortable is. to not distract them so when I do some. people's podcast and they have like. literally a glass wall and there's a. control room and you see people running. back and forth and they're holding up. pieces of paper and they're timing. things and there's five different people. on the keyboards and I don't know why. they want to do that I don't understand.

like obviously not everybody's Jamie and. one of the things about having a guy. like Jamie it streamlines the process so. well because jimie does a job of three. people at least there should be three. people doing what he does there should. be one person that's Googling one person. that's switching the cameras another. person that's monitoring the sound. levels and overseeing everything and. making sure the lighting is good and. everything's going smooth You' have. multiple people doing what he does so.

you mentioned 25 years ago you got a. great financial adviser how did you guys. meet to get this whole set up I met. Jamie at a comedy club yeah Jamie uh. came to a show at the ice house and you. know we were just uh talking just. hanging out he told me he's a. professional audio engineer and he was. saying we have problems with our sound. and I said what would you do to fix it. he goes I could take a look at it and. you know that was kind of the extent of. the conversation right yeah mostly. pretty much yeah and then Jamie said he.

took a one-way ticket from Ohio to come. to La CU this is what he wants to do and. I was like really but it was like it it. seemed to me and I uh for whatever. reason I tend to follow instincts even. if people say don't do that what are you. do I'm like I don't know this seems like. the thing to do and like with him I was. like I think I'm going to hire that dude. and then right away guy didn't even know. I didn't know [ __ ] about him he could. have been a [ __ ] serial killer he.

could have been a [ __ ] con artist I. mean did we do a background check on you. uh you'd have to tell me that I don't. know there was talks of it but I don't. know I think we probably did to make. sure you're not a criminal I did sign. something yeah um but then right away I. was like yep I was right he's the man. what episode did you come in on Jamie's. been here for 9 years yeah no 11 11. years like there was some episode number. where prior to that I don't remember the. audio was shitty and everything came. been around 300 okay 290 300 was when I.

started yeah but uh again not. everybody's Jamie yeah but Jamie is. Jamie and I are like kind of telepathic. in this weird way we're like I'll be. talking about something and Jamie will. already have it pulled up like I'll. start the conversation all like did you. see this new jet and then all of a. sudden Jaime's got the video p and and. you'll see guess go how the [ __ ] did he. how did you do that did you guys plan. this like he's the man he's like we have.

like the best working relationship in. that regard and you know like I have. other friends that run podcasts and. they're always complaining they're like. you know the producer chimes in too much. and interrupts sentences they get things. wrong they [ __ ] this up they do that. wrong they don't show up on time they're. late with their video editing or. whatever the [ __ ] it is always something. yeah and Jamie and I just have it dialed. in but again it's a skeleton crew we. have one guy who's a video editor we.

have one guy who's a booking agent so. it's like because everyone would be. wondering who has a podcast like how do. you find a jamy or something that is. like high level positions even for like. companies you have I've always wondered. how' you find the people to run those so. you can actually do what you do best. yeah well with the com The Comedy Club. is a good example. with the comedy club when I started that. and I came out here to Austin it was. like the universe had opened every it.

was like you know when you're driving. sometimes you hit every Green Light yeah. it's like it's it feels yeah it feels. like it's meant to be it's amazing. that's how the comedy club was it's like. I realized that you know I had always. had this idea that I wanted to. eventually get out of LA and as my. youngest daughter started getting older. I was like I do not want them growing up. in this [ __ ] up materialistic Fame. driven Bizarro world of La cuz it's not. conducive to becoming a healthy human.

being and developing discipline and and. being present and just having like a a. well adjusted well-balanced adult human. being I'm like this is a [ __ ] mess. over here like I see these people that. are adults that are raising their kids. these are grownup babies raising babies. I like this is [ __ ] Madness I got to. get out of here and so when the pmic hit. and then the riots were hitting and then. there was [ __ ] zero police presence. and there were keeping all these.

businesses locked down and all these. restaurants these guys I knew that run. restaurants they were all going under. The Comedy Store was going was [ __ ]. they weren't letting them host any shows. there was no stand up to be done and we. came out here in May of 2020 and. initially I was thinking maybe we'll get. a vacation house and we can visit here. and go and then my kids wanted to live. here like right away because when we. were in La everybody had a mask on and. you couldn't go to a restaurant we came. out here we're eating at a restaurant in. May of 2020 and I remember my kids like.

I can't believe we can sit down in a. restaurant we don't have to wear masks. like they they checked your forehead. when you get in there the temperature it. was all nonsense like what's your. temperature make sure you're not and. then and then you sit down you eat and. everybody was fine and then a few weeks. later they just let loose everything. they're like yeah no restrictions go. back to life and uh Gavin Newsome was. like everyone's going to die what are. you doing and they kept everything. locked down forever kept kids out of. school forever so we came out here and.

when we came out here we started doing. standup so I started doing stand up with. Dave Chappelle at stubs which is outdoor. venue we did it very responsibly we. tested the entire audience the audience. had to get there an hour before the show. everybody got tested we really only. wound up filtering a small handful of. people out that tested positive for. covid over the course of like however. many shows we did there and then we. started doing shows. indoors and when we started doing shows. indoors that's when I was. realizing we really need a comedy club.

like a real Comedy Club here cuz comics. from La started moving to Austin before. I even had a club because they realized. that I was doing shows here and that we. could we could all do shows together so. I'd like come down do a couple shows so. I'd fly them in they do the podcast. they' do a few shows at the club and. they go this is [ __ ] amazing it's. like we're doing comedy again and then. they started moving here and then and. The Comedy Store was shut down so. because The Comedy Store was shut down. all of the best employees were. unemployed so I contacted the talent.

manager I contacted the manager I. contacted the bar manager I contacted. all these people and I said. hey I'm G to open up a comedy club but I. want to hire you now and so I'm going to. pay you you'll fly to Austin I'll give. you money to relocate and then you'll. get free money for like a year and a. half you'll get paid a full salary you. Insurance everything just come here and. we're going to build this club together. and so everything aligned perfectly so.

that when the club was open we were. dialed in the people had already lived. here we like Carrie our bar manager is. amazing and she literally recruited the. best waitresses and bartenders brought. everybody in they we got up and running. and we were smooth within a week. so it was like finding her though is. that you or me I knew her okay she was a. good friend gocha she was my friend at.

The Comedy Store for years like we we'd. always hang out together and you know. have drinks after Club she was just cool. as [ __ ] and she was really disciplined. and she was really good at keeping. creeps out of the comics bar and making. sure that everybody wasn't being. infringed on cuz there's a Comics bar at. The Comedy Store and it's literally ms's. bar she has a bar from her home that is. in the The Comedy Store comedians bar. and that was our place we'd go in. between shows and after shows and we. would all hang out there and it was just.

fun it was just laughs and this and that. and I'm like that's gone now when we. were in Austin I'm like I need to. recreate that and I needed Carrie I. needed Adam who's a talent coordinator I. needed all these different people that. understood how to run a club and had. been doing it at the highest level at. the store and they were all available. because they were unemployed so it was. like everything was perfect everything. was perfect it was like all these doors. just opened up and then bam and so when. people say how'd you put together this.

comedy club. like I don't know if I could have done. it any other way cuz if I had to start. from scratch and all these people were. employed and they didn't want to move. and La was going great I wouldn't be. able to recruit them I wouldn't be able. to say hey leave your whole life and all. your friends and come to Texas yeah but. it was it was attractive you know three. years ago hm so overseeing it all is it. kind of just like you have high Lev. people who take care of it and you can. just focus on your comedy and the the.

fun [ __ ] essentially yes yes I mean. there's a few issues that I have to deal. with there's some decisions that have to. be made and there's problems that have. Arisen but nothing major it's so pretty. pretty manageable but it's because the. team is really good and if if I didn't. have good people and also people that. are legitimately my friends like if we. never work together again I would still. call them we'd talk we'd hang out. they're all my friends so when we. started working together putting. together this club it was pretty easy it.

was like again it was like the universe. set everything up said you know what the. world needs is a new Hub of comedy and I. think you could do that so we're going. to like align all these things so you. could do this thing that's completely. separate from Hollywood which was always. the problem in California you would see. these talented comics they would start. watering down their material because. they were starting to get television. shows and so guys who were wild when. they were younger and they would say.

hilarious funny [ __ ] that was like. really risque they curbed that and they. started becoming a little mediocre just. a little soft around the edges little. they nerfed all the hard parts of their. act and cuz they were connected to this. machine this [ __ ] woke [ __ ]. leftist machine that wants you to. subscribe to a very predetermined. pattern of ideas and Notions and if you. didn't you were out yeah and if you did. if you you know you wanted to talk about. Christianity or conservative you're gone.

they're not going to hire you they're. going to hire another person you're not. going to run the daily show if you're. also running a a white right-wing. website that uncovers political you know. discrepancies in the Democratic party. they won't hire you do those shows still. do well like the no they're dead they're. dead they're useless I mean if you go on. The Tonight Show now no one watches it's. like it used to be when Johnny Carson. was running The Tonight Show if you were. a comic and you got on The Tonight Show.

you would be headlining clubs all across. the country because 20 million people. were watching yeah and if you had a big. splash with like a great routine and. they'd go hey he's going to be at the. Charlotte Funny Bone tomorrow night and. then people would go see you and it was. the best way for Comics to get. discovered was The Tonight Show now it's. a nonstarter it does nothing it does. nothing what's the best way to get. discovered now just like podcasts 100%. YouTube videos Tik Tok videos.

podcasts I mean there's got like this uh. guy I had on the other day Ralph Barbosa. very talented young comedian just. started putting some stuff out on Tik. Tok went from being a guy who was trying. to get opening acts like he was trying. to like middle for friends like my. friend Brian Simpson some other Comics. that were more established to all of a. sudden selling out like five shows in a. row on a weekend. and then you know doing theaters and. like like that it went from struggling. to killing it in over a course of a.

couple of months yeah it's like that uh. Matt r as well yeah same thing yeah yeah. guys exploded exploded and all just from. crowd workor videos and you know stuff. that he puts on Tik Tok and YouTube and. Instagram so in general maybe it's a. stupid question but people who are at. you know your the comedy it's the. mothership right what it called again. comedy Mothership yeah okay so if. they're performing there on a. semi-regular basis or what have. you what material are are people doing.

new stuff to test it out constantly or. it's like what are you doing to not burn. through existing stuff that is you know. your putting it up on Instagram and. stuff like that yeah it's like guys like. Matt R for example their crowdwork. videos go Bonkers but then I'm assuming. that stuff is not part of the actual. like main thing. so and this is like a totally inept you. know not no idea how this works that's. why I'm totally oblivious in asking like. this but is it only testing new stuff.

and crowd work at these shows or like. how do you even decide what you should. put out when you're doing these uh these. videos yeah or like even when they're. performing at uh your place it's like oh. are they hesitant to use good jokes. because it will get used up before they. can do a Netflix special or something. well I think what most of these guys are. doing is they're filming stuff like if. especially if you're filming unusual. moments in the crowd like Andrew Schultz. is great at that he's got a lot of these.

videos where he's not burning material. because it's just a unique situation in. the crowd and he's really good at crowd. work and so put these videos up but he. also has really good standup material. some of these guys are good at working. the crowd but then their material shitty. like the best guys are like Andrew like. Schultz is great at standup like regular. St his material is brilliant and also. he's great at [ __ ] around the crowd. because he's real loose so he'll make a. lot of videos of Just crowd work those.

videos go viral then he eventually puts. the material together where he puts out. a stand-up special that makes him even. bigger and then it all compounds on each. other that seems wild how people could. be like situationally funny like context. dependent so that that's like what if. you're the guy who's good at crowd War. but not have good material or vice versa. there are guys like that huh yeah. there's there's both kinds of guys yeah. there's guys that are really good at.

material and then something happens in. the crowd and they fall apart yeah you. know that's that's a that's a crutch too. that's not good you you don't want to be. in that situation you want to be loose. or when something goes down you can go. what what are you talking about man like. what is it and for the most part one of. the things that's really good at the. club we keep people from yelling out. [ __ ] and we keep people from. interrupting we the most important thing. is the standup and the environment that. the comics are able to be comfortable. and doing their material so it's the. best show for everybody so if you get.

some loud person that just needs a lot. of attention they can distract from the. show they'll I've had guys yell things. out and they completely interrupt a bit. that has it's got a build point and. they'll stop it right there and you. can't really restart it so that bit's. done now so you have to abandon it so. you have to stop people from doing that. and you got to kick them out I wonder. how many people that are trying to come. up create like synthetically create. crowdwork situations tell their buddy. like hey go to the show and yell up this.

[ __ ] I'm sure they do I'm I'm sure. that's the case but the best guys don't. need that like guys like Schulz he. doesn't need that he doesn't do that he. he just he'll see some interesting. couple and then he'll start talking to. them and joking around and he's super. friendly and so it's feels loose and. they're enjoying everyone's smiling you. know and he it's great it's. skill you can't fake it to make it like. you can only get so far by faking you. have to be genuinely impulsively funny. to make that work right and he's.

genuinely impulsively funny he also has. a shitload of Charisma which also adds. to that because it's like everyone's. enjoying it it's like a good time and. he's really he's kind-spirited so he's. not mean while he's doing this and even. if he says something mean he says it in. a way that you're laughing you know and. then and then he's like I mean I don't. mean anything bad by it like it's like. you got to like him but the what the. comics at the uh the mothership are. doing that's so interesting is that.

there is two nights of Open Mic nights. so people that are just [ __ ] rank. amateurs that have never been on stage. have an opportunity to perform there and. they get a couple of minutes and if. you're good and you come back and the. town coordinator sees you and it says. how much material have you got how long. have you been doing it and then maybe. you'll get on kill Tony and kill Tony is. the Cornerstone of the standup Community. because kill Tony is this wild YouTube. show where you have one minute and you.

have one minute to perform in front of a. live audience they pull your name out of. a bucket and then they read it and they. go you know Tommy Jones come on down and. Tommy Jones gets on stage and people. have careers from that now guys like. Hans Kim and David Lucas and uh William. Montgomery they're headlining on the. road selling out weekends and and it all. came out of this show and one of the. things about the show is you only have. one minute so you don't have any time to.

[ __ ] to be virtue signaling or to be. to get clapped her or woke or to talk. about your trauma shut the [ __ ] up and. be funny you have one minute so it. teaches you economy of words you got to. get to the point quickly you got to edit. your jokes well so they're not rambling. and you'll see people that don't know. how to do that too which is also awesome. about the show. cuz they'll you know Tony and the guest. will just destroy that person and and. make fun of it all it's like a roast. table right oh yeah 100% and Tom and.

Tony's like the best roster alive so. he's like the perfect host for this kind. of a show yeah but so that is our Monday. night show so every Monday night we have. kill Tony it's packed it sells out six. months in advance it's an amazing show. to go watch if you're in town it's so. [ __ ] funny and it gets better every. time and he's got like this amazing band. The local artists local musicians that. play in the band and they're really. [ __ ] good and so the whole Show's. just and he's been doing the show for 10.

years so it's just super dialed in. what's the weight list like to be on the. you know the open mic the weight list I. I don't know the weight list to be on. kill Tony is anybody can sign up. hundreds of people sign up every week. and they only pull like three or four do. you have to put like a audition or like. some sort of breakdown nope not for kill. Tony all you have to do is write your. [ __ ] name down damn yeah you write. your name down it goes in the bucket. they they pull your name out and then. you're on damn yeah crazy and every now.

and then you get a banger every now and. then someone will come up and they. [ __ ] kill and the audience loves them. and you're like holy [ __ ] man there's a. guy with cerebral paly that does standup. through his phone so he has his phone. connected to a speaker a Bluetooth. speaker and he sets the microphone by. the Bluetooth speaker and he has his. phone with talk to text so he will type. very quick and he can only use one hand. like his other hand's [ __ ] so he's.

using his one hand and typing out a. response and then it'll play out through. the phone that's crazy and he's [ __ ]. hilarious was he on America's Got Talent. yeah he was on the finals yeah kids in. America's Got Talent from Kill Tony huh. yeah how popular are those shows now. America's Got Talent still yeah for sure. yeah I think those are pretty I always. wonder like the this is the kid see how. his left hand is like completely [ __ ]. yeah.

yeah audio's low sorry I got a text and. my phone died please. hold hi I'm so happy to be back for the. finals I'm sure you can hear the. excitement in my. voice this is part of I heard red B. explain that uh they had some audio. issues during this final that kind of. [ __ ] over his whole bit oh I'm sure. dude have you seen Simon cowl. recently yeah what's going on with him I.

don't know man he looks worse than Aaron. yeah it's. uh it's uh I feel like there's a point. where the plastic surgery no matter how. little of wrinkles you've managed to. Jesus that's probably a generous picture. compared to some of the ones I've seen. well he used to be a good looking guy. like that was what he used to look like. yeah right and now show what he looks. like now like what H what his like eyes.

are sinking is his forehead looks. botoxed looks like he's got some fillers. in his cheeks yeah yeah the thing that's. so weird about plastic surgery is it's. like objectively you couldn't really. tell why the skin looks old but it just. like does even though there's no. wrinkles at all how good he looked back. then yeah handsome he also went on a. vegan diet too oh really yeah huh and. didn't he like get significantly hurt.

yeah he got into a bad uh accident I. think on like an. ebike [ __ ] up his back and I need. surgery and oh so maybe I shouldn't have. said anything well maybe when you see. people like that it's a combination of. multiple things so if he's on pills. because of his surgery he might be like. you know and then he's got Botox and his. just get old. buddy get old and keep your smile some. of the celebrity stories about why like.

some like injury or something that. resulted in them getting a surgery to. look the way they did though is like. obviously manufactured and totally. fabricated oh really like Zack Efron. have you seen his before and after but. isn't that just he got Juiced up to play. no dude look at his face before and. after and you'll be like what the [ __ ]. cow announced okay he he began eating. animal-based Foods again order to. rebuild his strength after surgery aha H. where we heard that before so he fell he. broke his back when he fell off his.

electric motorcycle oh he had a. motorcycle many press sources confused. with an electric bike the incident. occurred when he was testing in his home. in Malibu taken to the hospital. underwent back surgery overnight Oh. serious [ __ ] after the accident he began. eating animal-based Foods again in order. to rebuild his strength but clearly he's. got some Botox e thing filler thing. going on with his mug yeah yeah I don't. know how old he is there's a difference. between like watching someone age which. is you know oh he looks old to what are.

you doing yeah like Madonna yeah it's. not even a human anymore it's like when. when you see well I guess. m someone said that Madonna had gotten. plastic surgery on her face and then. when they saw that one time at the. Grammys her face was swollen still and. that it hadn't gone down yet apparently. when you really get a lot of nipping and. tucking it takes a long time happened. from a fall oh yeah it was like he had. his jaw wired shut 10 years ago breaking.

in a fall he almost died in 2022 or he. revealed he almost died s in 2022 during. the incident almost died by breaking his. jaw and then it was responsible for. facial swelling apparently apparent in. the viral 2021 video for Bill ny's Earth. Day musical like basically in a couple. years ago he showed up looking. unrecognizable and then claimed it was. from an injury and 10 years ago what. says he had a potentially. life-threatening illness a form of. typhoid or similar bacterial infection. while filming the adventure series.

killing Zack Efron and Pap out n Guin oh. wow yeah yeah he's someone was telling. me that that hee looks different but I. thought he just got super jacked for the. movie Zack Eon face before and after. face is messed up it was because of the. job being we were wired like he. definitely took [ __ ] for his recent role. like there's no question about that but. it's like this is beyond dude it's like. so you got plastic surgery as well oh. heavy Dy yeah like what kind of stuff. look at that H like tell me that's from.

hitting your jaw in a. fountain wow yeah well that to me looks. like. roids that that's like Camille nanani. that same sort of thing well that looks. that looks very different it's like. actual mass accumulated not just body. fat loss and it's not like his like he's. gained muscle for for the recent role. but his face even when he's out of prep. for body type roles he still has looks. the same so yeah like Kum obviously he.

lost a [ __ ] ton of fat and gained muscle. around his face so there is some. development there but this is like next. level stuff dude at least I think so and. I think a lot of people think the same. he definitely looks different yeah like. it's yeah it's um so what do you think. he's got going on here like imp plants. like what is it um I think uh I think. there's like fillers you can get to make. this bone pop out way more or make it.

look like there's more uh more structure. to it and that seems to me pretty clear. there some sort of fillers or something. and that's what you see in the cheeks uh. potentially but I think mainly the jaw. area it's just so much more. substantially pronounced it's uh I don't. know you couldn't chock it up to roids. hm so maybe when his jaw broke like to. gain that much mass on your face and. then not proportionally on the rest of. your body it would make no.

sense he said uh he slipped hit the. corner of a fountain passed out and woke. up with his chin broke hanging off his. face whoa yeah in. 2013 yeah so I don't know anyway it's. like it's weird too though cuz the guy. is objectively one of the better looking. guys in Hollywood before whatever he did. so it's like what would have what in. your mindset would have motivated you to.

to do this to begin with like obviously. I've seen it with women many many times. where oh yeah they like [ __ ] up their. lips or whatever yeah they just start. going in and a little bit of this my. nose is a little too long and this is. this girl that I knew and I hadn't seen. her for a while and uh I saw her like 2. years later and it looked like someone. punched her in the face cuz she just had. swollen cheeks cuz she had decided to. put filler in her face and I don't know. her that well so it's not like I can say.

hey what the [ __ ] are you doing like. don't do that like whatever you're doing. you got to stop doing that yeah so it. was just one of those things like okay. this is what you're doing now huh you. just like you're like you know what it. makes like this stick up and that takes. away the crow's feet you know because it. like stretches everything out right. right but it also makes it look like. your face is swollen yeah it's weird cuz. it's like I've seen some young very. attractive girls get plastic surgery and.

they they almost end up looking like an. older woman trying to look young even. though they were young to begin with and. looked young yes like what are you doing. yeah it's weird yeah it's well you know. it's body dysmorphia you don't see. yourself the way other people see you. yeah by the same token why would a guy. take why do you want to gain a bunch of. muscle and take steroids right or. anything could be seen just as [ __ ] up. by I don't know I think when guys get. jacked looks good oh well yeah I mean. object's a difference sure sure I'm just.

saying like there's a level of body. dysmorphia at both levels for sure well. if there was something available for. women like there is for men like so men. can take steroids and they can get. jacked and you can get a guy that is. just you know [ __ ] pretty normal. looking physique and within 24 months he. looks like a [ __ ] superhero yeah men. want that if there was a thing like that. for women where you could take this and. instead of like cosmetic changes you. would literally be more of a woman. because these guys are actually.

physically stronger they can move faster. they have more power they're they're a. different version of a human being than. they were before but women don't have. that they just have appearance [ __ ] you. can make your tits look bigger you can. suck your waist in you can get your ass. stuffed with fat and it's not the same. there you go Jeff. Bezos not that he did but if you could. go from that looking like that I fully. support his uh. jacked I like the way he lives yeah yeah. but you when you you think about if.

there was a thing like that for women so. you could take a woman who has you know. like a Twiggy body just like kind of. long and thin and not voluptuous and. they could all of a sudden take a. steroid that turns them into Jennifer. Lopez yeah they would all take it yeah. but I think it's less more less. wellknown and educated about at scale. among women nor do they care to learn. about it they know plastic surgery they. know stuff they see in magazines they.

know the celebrities they follow but. guys we like we follow bodybuilders and. people in Fitness industry and whatnot. and it's a bit of a different like. exposure I feel like but you it's. actually hard to convince women that. getting a muscular ass is better than. injecting like fake synthetic [ __ ]. blubber right you know so it's a whole. different element of mindset for sure. well have you seen the Madonna videos of. her on tour now have you seen these. Jamie here I'm going to send this to you. cuz it's [ __ ] bananas like I don't.

know what the hell she is doing but it. is very. strange here we go how old is she now uh. she's in her. 60s um like probably probably deep in. her 60s right here I'm a send this to. you Jamie uh but I mean it looks like. she's wearing a [ __ ]. diaper you guys sent it to you um this. is something that's this is madness I.

mean like she's thin I I bet her body. would look good if she just was this 65y. old woman who's thin and fit but instead. look at her butt oh jeez yeah what. what's going on there that is so. insane it's so insane because first of. all it it doesn't make sense like you. could not develop an ass like that and. have such thin thighs yeah it's not. possible and the only way that looks. good to have an ass like that is to have. those [ __ ] quarter horse thighs that.

go with it yeah like when you see a. woman who has a big butt that she's. developed from squats and then she has. the legs to go with it that's hot yeah. that's hot this is just [ __ ] sad and. also like when she moves around on stage. now she moves around like someone with. arthritis yeah I wouldn't even know how. you could focus on your performance. knowing that you have like a [ __ ]. diaper sitting on you you know cuz it's. like I'd be thinking about does this. look you know yeah well I think she's.

probably delusional at this point she. got to be I mean you got to imagine what. it's like you go from being the object. of total desire to everyone like when. Madonna was 27 years old she'd walk in. her room everybody like holy [ __ ] it's. Madonna she was so hot and she had this. incredible body and she was so talented. and she was just desired by everyone MH. you go from that to being a. Monster yeah I mean when you see her in. the Grammys when her face was all. swollen You' seen those images I think.

so those Imes yeah those are extreme cuz. they were so nuts that that was the. entire topic of conversation for most. people after the Grammys was like what. the [ __ ] did Madonna do oh my God yeah. wild that's wild I mean that's pure. Insanity it's like Adam's family [ __ ]. exactly it's all fillers and I mean your. head is not supposed to be that big like. why is there chin stick out that much. and that's all things that were done to.

mitigate yeah that's what she used to. look like crazy yeah so that was her. when she was young so she goes from that. to being that and what is that well. that's this that's the worst Journey. that a person who whose identity is. wrapped around them being attractive can. ever go through yeah not only that. you're Father Time's [ __ ] you and. then you're [ __ ] yourself by trying. to compete with Father time and now. you're becoming a Monster yeah so now. when people see you instead of going.

whoa that's Madonna they're like yikes. yeah it's a cautionary tale now yeah. that's like and it overshadows their. musical achievements for sure too 100%. because then it becomes a subject of. attention yeah like Michael Jackson. exactly exactly like what are they doing. now what's this the Michael Jackson one. is the greatest example for sure because. it was so nuts yeah I mean his nose. caved in and you know there's there's. pictures of him like like it looks like. some skin grafting around his nose yeah.

cuz it's just. collapsing yeah there was some. speculation around if he was like uh. castrated as a child too yes that is. what his doctor said the doctor that was. convicted of giving him what was it. propenol that that used used to take. anesthesia to put himself under cuz he. couldn't sleep have you ever heard of. the castrate yes okay yeah so like they. I suspect that he similar to them it was. like a more modern version of that and.

was castrated in his youth to preserve. the Angelic kind of like singing voice. that's what his doctor said his doctor. said that his father had done chemical. castration on him which is what they do. to some sex offenders they give him. chemical castration and they did it to. him while he was going through puberty. so he wouldn't develop a deeper voice. which then begs the question too there's. all this like uh all the scrutiny on him. for like the pedophilia stuff it's like. did the guy even have sexual desire at. all right you know it's kind of weird I.

think probably a lot of that stuff was. he was emotionally stunted they say that. like your emotional age is often wrapped. up in the age that you became famous so. if you're a child star you're kind of. [ __ ] for Life yeah I don't know anyone. that's made it through unscathed every. child childhood star I've ever sat down. and talked to everyone I've ever met in. the real world they're always [ __ ]. they're just I've met a lot of really. cool actors like you hang out like Scott.

Eastwood if you were hanging out with. Scott Eastwood he's like a regular guy. you would not know that he's a movie. star Chris Pratt completely normal I've. been around that guy a couple dozen. times I'm in mixed company I've been in. elk hunting camp with him he's super. normal mhm just a cool guy you know. there's people that are like that that. make it through Fame and they're still. cool they're fun to be around Matthew. MCC great great guy great guy to be.

around I mean you know Wise and says a. lot of cool [ __ ] he's really interesting. but you can hang with him yeah he's not. a weirdo yeah and he got pay was pretty. young but he's smart and he navigated. those Waters and turned out to be a. really exemplary man but there's a lot. that don't man there's a lot that they. become famous at a young age and they're. just [ __ ] broken forever the Corey. Feldman of the world and the you know. Fillin the blank there's so many.

versions of childhood stars that are. just destroyed as adults they they it's. like someone Made Concrete but they. didn't put all the water in right and so. the concrete is just brittle and just it. doesn't have structure to it they didn't. go through the normal process of being a. young person trying to figure out your. way in the world and making mistakes and. learning and seeing other people make. mistakes and having good things happen. you realize oh that's because I put in. the work and I did this and then you. developed this process and then you you.

mature over the learning experiences you. become a person you become a fully adult. woman or a fully adult man you don't go. through that if you're famous when. you're young you're [ __ ] you're [ __ ]. everyone that does it is. [ __ ] yeah yeah it's uh some people I I. haven't met any like huge celebrities. really but some of them you could just. feel more relatable when they speak even. in the I don't know conversations that. are published online and whatnot and. especially in podcast when you see them. show up you can sort of see if that's a.

person that even has like a human. interaction capacity with a average Joe. kind of thing yes some of them they. they'll do podcasts and you can tell. that they're in like PR mode and they're. putting to get it's almost like they. have a routine that they're doing yeah. yeah you know and with actors you never. even know if it's. acting the whole [ __ ] time anyway. right yeah you kind of know do you yeah. because they're off script and then you. know if I feel like someone's acting. I'll I'll prod him about little things.

I'll try to get him to talk about ghosts. I'll try you know what I mean like like. what what ridiculous [ __ ] do you believe. in you know what do you think do you. believe in the healing power of crystals. you know like there there's something. you could [ __ ] with them a little bit. and maybe antagonize them slightly like. joking around see how they react to that. just try to get them off of whatever. they're on whatever this rant you're on. that you've prepared that you you know. you think is going to be a good. monologue that's going to get you to.

relate to people like what else yeah I. definitely think a lot of now obviously. this is just totally unfounded advice. from a random guy but a lot of these. celebrities become so much more. humanized when they do the podcast that. they've been invited on that it seems. worthwhile to do once in a while cuz. it's like certain guys will have like a. weird Mystique around them and they have. rumors that circulate and go [ __ ]. wild like I know like Tom Cruz for. example yeah you can't help but think. that guy is a whacko if you don't know.

him probably or of like I don't know if. he's ever done public stuff well I know. he did that Matt L interview on The. Today Show and it was a giant problem. because he was telling Matt laau that. you don't need psychiatric medicine and. that you know that anti-depressants are. terrible for you he was talking about. Brook Shields and you know and then Matt. low was arguing about it and he seemed. like a [ __ ] complete cook so is he. like the head of Scientology or like. what is that it seems like it yeah.

there's another guy I don't even know. what it goes into that or what can be. said about that without getting [ __ ]. assassinated well there's the main guy. and then he's got this wife that seems. to be missing oh jeez David movage okay. so he's got this wife that there has. been no sighting of her for like over a. decade holy [ __ ] yeah there's some weird. [ __ ] going on like Scientology is wild. like in my mind I picture Tom Cruz and. like an Emperor Palpatine Hood like. walking around a palace of like.

Scientology people and I'm assuming. that's not what happens I'm assuming it. is okay you never know I I was I mean. did you ever see the time where he. receives an award some sort of like. greatest human ever award and he uh gets. a like way bigger than the Olympic gold. medal it's like a [ __ ] dinner plate a. gold dinner plate around his chest and. they salute elron hubard to lrh have you. seen that no I haven't it's leaked. internal video of one of these.

celebrations whoever leaked it's dead. for sure yeah they killed that guy they. threw him off the [ __ ] sea org yeah. fed up to the sharks see if you can find. that video because it's so Bonkers he. gets this [ __ ] award for being like a. really good actor so look at this this. is like Tom cre the freedom Medal of. Honor. of Valor Freedom medal of. valor so I guess this is cell phone. footage look they're saluting this is.

some live this is like the real live. stream this was produced but it. was taken or something yeah some somehow. or another somebody got a hold of this. and put it out to the general public so. David misovich is G look at that [ __ ]. dinner plate he's got on his deck he's. giv the freedom medal of valor. to the Mission Impossible guy and. everyone's cheering they salute each. other which is my favorite part so elron. hover is a fictional author that is dead.

now or is he alive yes he's dead not. only is he a fictional author he is a. guy please put his speech up here we'll. talk about L Ron in a minute can me here. say. something this is so crazy look at. him International Association of. scientologists. they got air horns and.

[Laughter]. everything so he's the top dog yeah. that's what I would think. yeah trying to skip ahead so six yeah. how long are they cheer for it might be. like North Korea where you have to cheer. or they kill. you you're. welcome I'm really really honored to be. here with. you thank you. sir that was this whole speech thank you.

for your. trust thank you for your confidence like. this is acting yeah in me I've. personally uh personally been very. privileged to see what you. do to help to protect. to serve all of. us what's that mean protect and serve. protect my [ __ ] gay.

rumors I it's pretty kooky but at the. end of it they salute elron hubard and. they say to lrh and they all like point. to his [ __ ] photograph and and they. salute it which is one of my favorite. there it is like what this watch this. right deller or H they all stand up and. salute oh dude okay so elron. hubard. was not just a writer not just a writer. of fiction but the single man who wrote.

the most fiction in human history he has. the most published words of any human. that has ever lived and if you ever read. his stuff this [ __ ] never made a. second draft in his life they are. terrible books terrible stories it's. like the dumbest science fiction that. you have ever read like some person with. a mental illness is just rambling and. writing all this stuff down and it was I.

think he initially wrote for like those. pulp magazines like science fiction. magazines back in the day and then wound. up writing dianic and you know Lawrence. Wright covered him and the whole. movement pretty extensively in going. clear I I read the book and there was a. HBO documentary series on going clear. all about scientology. and you know it was all of it a lot of. it was like people that were former. members of Scientology like Leo Remy. that you know at a certain point in time. they were like what the [ __ ] am I doing.

like what is this and like especially. when you get to the highest levels of. knowledge and then they allow you to go. and read these Scrolls that are just. like so obviously crazy like the thetans. came down and their Frozen souls and. they threw them in a volcano and the you. know you're a container for this like. but you only get access to this. literature if you're like exactly. somebody has released some of it there's. people that have released some of it. online like you could find it I don't. Scientology had that stuff removed his.

Wikipedia okay here it is October 1984. American judge issued a ruling writing. of hubard that the evidence portrays a. man who has been virtually a. pathological liar when it comes to his. history background and achievements in. private affirmations Hubbert wrote to. himself you can tell all the Romantic. Tales you wish you know which ones were. lies you are gallant and dashing and. need to tell no lies no lies at all you. have enough real experiences to make. anecdotes forever stick to your true.

Adventures or if you wish as you will. tell Adventures which happen to others. people accept them better I don't know. that I don't know what that meant oh he. wrote that to himself he wrote that to. himself he also like gave himself a. bunch of medals so there's like there's. like with their medals there's a. photograph of him wearing like this. seaorg jacket on and it's like littered. with metals like he was [ __ ] overseas. he claimed to have been wounded in. combat but was never awarded a Purple. Heart like he lied apparently about his. military background and a bunch of.

different things and it appears at least. what Lawrence Wright is saying that what. he created Scientology for was sort of. to self-analyze his own mental health. issues and he utilized a lot of existing. psychological literature to try to. concoct diic and Di gentics was a book. that they would sell late night TV like. I bought it and this was like 1994 when. I I was reading Anthony Robins stuff and. I was always trying to like better. myself so reading self-help [ __ ] so I.

see this commercial for um Dianetics. it's like Dianetics this book will. unlock all the power of your minds like. the commercial out of like a volcano and. all this different [ __ ] I'm like oh okay. I'll try that out and for years after I. ordered that book I don't think I ever. read it I I open it up a couple times. that I lost interest for years I got. invited to seminars and programs and. these different things that they would. do they would just use this mailing list.

they got from the suckers that ordered. dianic and then they would just try to. get them to join Scientology damn so. it's like a big funnel system yeah and. it was super effective too because they. were really good at recruiting famous. actors so they had a ton of famous. actors you know it was uh obviously John. Travolta and Christy Ali and Tom Cruz. and that famously Chef from South Park. um what was that guy's name the singer.

Isaac Hayes Isaac Hayes so Isaac Hayes. wound up leaving South Park because. South Park was [ __ ] on Scientology. so is this sort of like the steroid use. celebrity thing where you just don't ask. them about it like in interviews for. Scientology people like you would think. if I'm having a chance to talk to Tom. Cruz or whoever else I'm might ask a few. things about this [ __ ] KN yeah you. know well I think in order to get access.

to com Tom Cruz you you have to be. vetted as a person who's not going to. push him you're not going to ask him any. weird questions about scientology or. anything I think they're very. controlling and and obviously getting an. interview with Tom Cruz is a big get so. you have to agree to all these things I. would imagine that that's part of the. program right right that's just a guess. though. but the point is elron hubard literally. wrote that if you really want to make. money start a religion that's crazy and. that's what he did you l i mean is like.

the religion all of his Works. Consolidated or is it just a specific. subsect of his random publishings I. think it's not all of his work because. most of his work is just pure fiction. yeah and then you know he had the the. stuff where it were at least Lawrence. rights assertion is that he was trying. to psychologically manage his own issues. so was his assertion that his fictional. work is to be disregarded as connected. to this and this is actually real yes. but meanwhile his fictional work mirrors. like the nonsense in his fictional work.

mirrors the nonsense in Scientology it. just seems so [ __ ] kooky yeah like. what is the what do they believe like. what are the thetans thing like there's. something really kooky about what the. the underlying principles of Scientology. and what their core belief. is to the point where some of the people. in going clear like they're talking. about seeing it well this combines two. of our favorite stories from this. podcast the Trapped in the Closet thing. R Kelly oh yeah this is the Trapped in.

the Closet episode of South Park right. where they and it's Tom Cruz show yeah. yeah they show it in full cartoon oh and. they explain yeah they this is exactly. on the screen it says like this is. exactly what's in their book or. something like that we'll play that then. evil. Lord reason for people feeling sad and. depressed. an alien reason it All Began 75 million. years ago back then there was a Galactic. Federation of planets which was ruled. over by the evil Lord.

zenu zenu thought his Galaxy was. overpopulated and so he rounded up. countless aliens from all different. planets and then had those aliens. Frozen this is actually sist believe. Cruisers which looked like dc8 except. with rocket engines the Cruisers then. took the Frozen alien bodies to our. planet Earth and dumped them into the. volcanoes of.

Hawaii the aliens were no longer Frozen. they were dead The Souls of those aliens. however lived on and all floated up. towards the sky but the evil Lord zenu. had prepared for. this zenu didn't want their souls to. return and so we built giant Soul. catchers in the sky. Souls were taken to a huge Soul. brainwashing facility which zenu had. also built on Earth there the souls were. forced to watch Days of brainwashing. material which tricked them into.

believing a false reality zenu then. released the alien Souls which roamed. the Earth aimlessly in a fog of. confusion at the dawn of man the souls. finally found bodies which they could. grab on to they attached themselves to. all mankind which still to this day. causes all our fears our confusions and. our problems. elron hubber did an amazing thing. telling the world this incredible truth. now all we're asking you to do is pick.

up where he left off but I don't know. any of this stuff neither did El run. when he started he said he just closed. his eyes and wrote down whatever came to. mind you can do the same just let it. flow okay I'll try I just wish I could. write my room but Tom Cruz won't come. out of the closet I know we've sent. Nicole Kidman up there to see if she can. hear it. so that's the thing that they found out. when they reached the highest levels of. knowledge has anyone come after South. Park in any significant way cuz it's.

like they they're probably like the only. show that has no holds bar will like. [ __ ] wreck you well they're the only. show that Comedy Central leaves alone. too oh really there's no way you could. make South Park today if you were an. unknown group of cartoonists yeah no. chance they would never let you it's too. crazy yeah they're too W but it's the. only good show on the network so they. kind of have to let it go have you seen. their depiction of Disney Disney World. and stuff it's [ __ ] comical dude. Mickey is this [ __ ] Tyrant Overlord.

and he like goes and beats up his. employees and. stuff and he's just talking in his high. pitch Mickey voice and just swearing at. his employees and stuff oh God hilarious. was there's the one recently the panda. verse where was replaced by a black. transom or something yeah. it's a great show I mean and it's been. great forever I mean I I saw the first. South Park episode was a VHS tape there. was their little Christmas special like.

what would Brian boano do and that was. in like 95 or 96 or something like that. that's crazy yeah they've been banging. it out ever since then I guess that's. the upside of cartoon is you can keep. the characters the same age and just run. it and perpetuity essentially yeah and. you can get away with wild [ __ ] that you. could never get away with like you. remember when uh Paris Hilton and that. gay teacher had a [ __ ] off they had a. [ __ ] off and sound hilarious he stuffed. her up his ass that's how he won he.

literally jumped on top of Paris Hilton. and stuffed her in his. ass oh my. God I love how they don't even they. don't even try to be careful about how. they like tiptoeing around it they'll. just say actual. Nam SS as close to them as and just go. fullblown they're National Treasure yeah. yeah they go hard yeah and they're.

they're so important because they're. like one of the few people out there. that's willing to in this day and age. where you can't even make comedy movies. anymore there's so few comedy movies. being made you're never going to see a. Tropic Thunder today yeah I don't watch. a lot of movies nowadays but I can't. recall the last time I've seen something. that was worth mentioning in comedy for. a movie Personally it's been forever it. was like The Hangover yeah you know yeah. yeah super bad I mean it's been a long.

[ __ ] time I went to Hawaii for the. first time uh a couple weeks ago and I. saw the license plates and that was the. thing it reminded me of the mck loven's. fake ID [ __ ] sick movie that was a. great movie man and you can't make. movies like that anymore just too many. people come after you but South Park. still does the same [ __ ] they go as hard. if not harder than ever before and would. without them what you know we wouldn't. have it yeah yeah not not on a. television show yeah yeah have you seen.

the uh the enhanced games oh I've heard. of that yeah total tangent but it's like. is it real is it happening. apparently so tell everybody what the. enhanced games are so so I'm not uh. fully you know in the know about updates. on it but my understanding is basically. an organization that is trying to I. don't know stand up against the proposed. corruption that is in you know the ioc.

and the Olympic system like basically. you have these top tier athletes who. prepare their whole lives to compete at. these events and they get paid. essentially [ __ ] nothing even though. they're the best athlete in their you. know whatever category they're competing. in and they'll be like essentially. robbed and have less monetization. capacity than the entire event that. basically overseas and has like a. monopoly on it and you know it's still. highly sought after to compete in it so. people do it anyways to represent their. country it's all big pride thing we've. talked about the people who said they.

would take years off their life to win a. gold that's still very much a thing but. it's like we've also seen massive. corruption among you know the testing. organizations certain countries getting. around um like the Sochi Olympics for. example Icarus great documentary to. watch about that yeah um where basically. certain countries are depending on how. risky they want to be or how uh you know. in depth they want to get with their you. know doping regimens essentially get.

around the system and there's. Protections in place depending on which. country they're in and ways they. basically finagled where the Olympics. are seen as a corrupt organization to. many people and they will I don't know. selectively scrutinize certain people. and athletes and whatnot and has created. this weird dynamic where um you know you. can't perform to the greatest capacity. that you could because you have to. remain within their narrow confines of. what's allowed and what's not allowed. and then also that could be at the.

detriment even of your recovery capacity. like there's a lot of compounds that you. should be able to use even for. recovering from injuries that are on the. Water band substance list that make no. sense to be on there like even recently. bpc 157 was added which is [ __ ] crazy. when it's like essentially. bioidentical um but yeah it's like this. organization the enhanced games is. essentially encouraging anyone who wants. to compete at the highest level and use. whatever they want and go SCE to the. gills in their respective event to show.

up here and show what can be done with. modern technology performance. enhancement to the max interesting so. it's like when whenever we talk about oh. this guy popped for whatever and then. you know a lot of us will say I don't. give a [ __ ] if they take [ __ ] I would. just want to see what the highest level. of performance could be. let them do what they want kind of thing. this is that with do oversight. apparently from highle individuals and. they they tout that it's going to be as.

safe as it could be within the confines. of you know pushing yourself to the. Limit. essentially so it's basically like the. anti- Olympics Olympics and they're. going to hold their first event I've. heard at the same time as the Olympics. to basically cannibalize the watch time. and also show that people who are in. their organization can beat the records. of the Olympics and they have like cash. bonuses available for people who beat. world records and things of this nature. to make sure interesting yeah so they.

want people to actually make they want. the athletes to have actual uh money. earning potential that makes it. worthwhile to compete as well whereas. the Olympics you're kind of stuck within. narrow confines of what you can monetize. verse not look at this he's the fastest. man in the world he's broken us bolts. 100 meter record but the world isn't. ready for him the Olympics hate him come. watch him compete in the 2024 enhanced. games who is this person it's in the. video it says he can't show his face so.

it says yeah right there I can't show. you my face he's white though so I'm. skeptical that's crazy that guy's faster. than Usain Bolt reing this also is a. marketing video so yeah maybe it's just. like this hypothetical person exists. interesting look it says new version of. the video as Twitter decided to take. down the last one P from July so I don't. know huh did Elon even own it. then when did he buy it yes yeah he own. in July right but yeah it'd be worth uh. maybe going to their site for a better.

summary of but essentially it's like sof. to the gills Olympics versus and they. want to compete with the actual Olympics. and have no testing do whatever you want. but oversight from you know highle. doctors to keep you as safe as possible. cuz often times in the. Olympics people will argue you know the. safety capacity of it but it's like in. the Olympics a lot of times people are. using drugs that are considered inferior. from a safety profile simply so they can. circumvent the testing so they'll end up. using like Frankenstein drugs that are.

worse for you and are super liver toxic. or terrible for your brain or what have. you just to be able to use something. that gives you a little bit of an edge. in one vector whereas here you could use. actual you know testosterone however. much you need or want um or thr potin. within the confines of whatever safe for. you you know obviously there's risk for. sure still but it's you know a very. interesting uh pivot that a lot of. people have eyes on it is interesting.

but where is it going to air I don't. know they say they have Partnerships. being spun up with like big broadcasting. networks or something I could be. misspeaking on that because that seems. hard to coordinate when it's like. traditional media potentially so I don't. really know well if I was ESPN I'd jump. right on like let's go yeah yeah I want. not going to watch yeah exactly [ __ ]. yeah I want to see the freak Show yeah. and I think that you know the only issue. would be distruption of the endocrine. system for young athletes because if you.

are doing steroids your body's going to. shut down production of testosterone you. could become infertile yeah like there's. ways again though when you have you know. No Holds Barred access to ancillary. medications and Doctor oversight like. there's ways to sustain like we know now. that you can sustain fertility on. hormones right so it's just something. like for example when I first started. taking gear when I was you know like I. don't know over 10 years ago at this. point no one was talking about how you. could take HCG concurrently with your.

exogenous anabolics to sustain. testicular volume and we were just told. if you want to get fertile again at the. time when you want to have a kid just. start taking the fertility drugs and. then you'll be good little did we know. it's actually fairly important to. sustain that testicular Mass o as you're. exposing yourself to the drugs to. actually uh smooth your transition to. recovery cuz it's like if the organ is. literally atrophying trying to expect. the same recovery capacity of like a.

shrunken atrophied shriveled testicle. versus something that's been the same. size and function the entirety of your. anabolic exposure it's like night and. day different so like there's new new. education around a lot of this stuff. that you would ideally be getting if you. were one of the guys competing but you. know obviously it's nuanced and up for. interpretation if that's like no one I. don't think would ever be a proponent of. it being safe like I wouldn't say it is. at all like obviously you're still. putting your cardiovascular system at.

risk brain and yeah like your fertility. could be impacted if you're not very. careful about how you manage it and. manipulate stuff so right and you could. obviously see if you will have an. enhanced games if someone went super. hypop. physiological like that's mle yeah I. figured you would be. the guy that say that mouthful around if. you went over the top you would have. more performance but also a lot more. risks yeah for sure like there's going. to be a diminishing returns and.

obviously when it's No Holds Barred. you're you know people are going to push. it but my understanding. is I you know the guy who runs it would. speak better to it than me it might be. worth connecting with him but it's uh I. think the doctors are going to oversee. and I don't know if they're going to put. limits on what biomarkers can get to. before they. like okay you're in unsafe territory. like it back cuz then obviously you then. at that point you present a layer of. doping of to get around the the. thresholds too so then it's like you.

have doping in the doped Olympics you. know which it's interesting so either. way though I'm interested to see the. outcome I've heard a lot of uh Olympic. athletes that have been uh popped are. competing I've heard a lot of people. that just want to compete and wouldn't. have been able to in the Olympics. because they want to be us sh or. competing there's a lot of people. apparently interested so interesting. yeah if they do start breaking Olympic. records that will be wild that will be. wild yeah well you know Florence Griffin.

Joiner her records still stand right. don't they yeah yeah um I don't know. which records have been rescinded other. than um like off the top of my head the. only one that's notable that I would. mention is like Lance Armstrong is that. everything rescinded and that doesn't. make any sense though no it's [ __ ]. his makes Le sense because you have to. go back to 18th Place to find someone. who didn't test positive on some of his. races yeah the wild Griffith Joiner with. like us bolt too it's like of all the. people who have broken 100 meter dash.

records he's the only one who supposedly. is natural and he has the best record of. all them like I suppose it's in some. alien genetic scenario it's possible but. it's like you know what's what's the. likelihood of he wasn't also you know. also Imagine usin bolt on some [ __ ] like. full board not not just like finagling. the system which is what a lot of people. think he did but no way to prove it. right yeah if you could just let that. guy with Superior genetics just go ham.

yeah I think they need to break some. World Records to really get the. attention too because it's like if they. just have above average exceptional. athletes compared to the average Layman. but not exceptional enough to be cuz you. still even Naturals that are at the the. peak of their him beating everybody yeah. crazy crazy it's they're they're. straining so hard it's just like CU it's. like in every sport there are going to. be outliers that even naturally [ __ ] on.

guys who are doped as hell so like it's. certainly possible that they still fall. short of World Records even with the. talent that's using [ __ ] everything. so to be determined how impactful it is. and who's competing I guess but I'm uh. going to be watching regardless well UFC. went through one of the starkest. contrasts when they brought aboard usada. and you got to see people's physiques. melt like literally melt yeah you got to. see their shoulders shrink and vtor. Belford's the greatest example of it. because vtor when they used to have a.

testosterone use exemption which you you. would allow fighters to be on. testosterone use therapy but you're also. self- administering and he was going. hard he was going hard when Luke rockold. saw him he was like Jesus Christ this. guy has muscles on his [ __ ] teeth. like he he just look like what was like. what is this guy on yeah and he had not. just this incredible physique and but. also a lifetime of Combat Sports skills. and the mind for it and then on top of.

that this intense confidence because he. was basically not a human yeah I mean he. was he had levels of testosterone that. no human gets to so he was just [ __ ]. raging just no fear and sustaining it. through the hard training too exactly. that's the thing like we were talking. about Jiu-Jitsu like these Jiu-Jitsu. guys before the show I think we were. talking about these guys are training. 365 days a year yeah and you don't do.

that and train six hours a day every day. without some gear like this the only way. you're going to recover you you'll break. everything down you won't be able to. recover in time for the next training. session there's a balance that has to be. achieved yeah and when you start adding. like hardcore anabolics into that. balance like it shifts everything and. your your ability to sustain work is. just radically improved what do you. think about usata getting. replaced I'm I don't know exactly what. the new protocol is going to be but I.

but I have heard that they're not going. to let them take bpc157 and I'm like. what the [ __ ] are you doing so they're. adhering to like the Water band. substance list presumably allegedly but. it could be you know like a little. little wink a little nod I don't know I. don't know how they're going to do it. and only time we'll tell I think this. current administration's contract with. usada is still applicable for the next. few months yeah yeah I think usada. standard protocol is in place until. January 1 is that what it is yeah yeah.

it's going to be interesting and you. know that's why I'm going to turn to you. to say like what do you think's going on. here yeah I guess it depends how they. document the positive test results too. because it's like back in the day. depending on organization sometimes. they'll publish exactly what the person. popped for what happened what you know. uh scrutiny is happening to them in the. moment um how it's being further. reviewed and it was like you know very. negative press even before they've. actually confirmed and proved this guy.

cheated necessarily and then youat kind. of took this different angle where they. would kind of be a little bit more vague. about it and then they would get some. scrutiny about if they're covering up. for certain people but at the same time. they were like you know getting scrutiny. for being hyper stringent where they'd. like show up to guys places in the. middle of the [ __ ] night when they're. trying to. sleep and it's uh a. very as far as the new organization. their level of scrutiny and how it's. going to play out and how I don't know.

private they're going to keep the. results it's to be determined but if. they're following the same Water band. substance list with the same kind of. protocols I imagine it's going to be. similar but with uh from what I. understand more scrutinous testing on. some of the endogenous bioidenticals so. like EPO I think nitzki said they're. going to up their frequency of testing. because you know some of the stuff at. the end of the day there's only so much. budget to allocate to where it's still a. viable economic thing so it's like are.

you going to EPO test like every [ __ ]. sample of every single athlete however. many times a year like some people are. tested like I don't know I forget what. Yuri was tested it was like some insane. amount of times per year um are you. going to EPO test HGH isopor test them. you know carbon isotope sh test are you. going to do that on every sample he's. ever produced right probably not so you. got to have some reproducible. economically viable strategy but um I. think they tested Yuri a lot because he. was in recover from shoulder surgery too.

yeah but then it's like why isn't guys. like you know Connor getting tested out. the ass because he got out of the pool. yeah but even when he went back in the. pool it's like well now he's testing how. frequently though well I don't know they. just started testing him really recently. guy's face definitely still looks a bit. Saucy well he was ja. act and. also that's when you should do it when. you have something like a catastrophic. leg injury I mean he's got rods in his. legs he's had multiple surgeries it's. not just one yeah you know I and then.

you know it doesn't always heal right. and it breaks again like Dan hooker he. has a rod in his arm he broke his. forearm in a fight um I think it was the. Jaylen Turner fight and so he had it. fixed had rods put in he just broke it. again so now he has to have a second. surgery he has to have that they're. doing some new procedure to try to get. the bones to fuse because the bones. didn't fuse correctly and you know the. rods the only thing holy in place and. it's snapped it's really weird how they. justify certain compounds that can be.

used in and out of testing because it's. like you could abuse the [ __ ] out of. amphetamines out of competition but then. you can't use bpc like like how does. that make any sense doesn't make any. sense it's it's all bizarre and I think. in a perfect. world professional athletes would. utilize everything possible to get the. best possible performance yeah again my. only concern would be young people. ruining their endocrine system yeah and. then the possible mitig you know the pro. There's real issues with overuse like.

overdosing because if you tell someone. hey if you take you know 100 milligrams. of this thing you'll have an improved. performance okay what's going to give me. a stroke yeah if I take 200 milligrams. what happens do I do do I move twice as. fast like what happens yeah and some of. the weight cutting will get even more. extreme with diuretic use and right yeah. some of it you'll have a like kidney. failures pre- competitions right and. then the question is going to be like. what kind of testing protocol are. they're going to use is it going to be. random you know is is it going to be.

something you can game like you know I. know who is the athlete that was taking. those testosterone gummies and they were. in and out of your system in a short. period of time Alex Rodriguez there you. go he was taking a bunch of different. [ __ ] but you were they were taking. testosterone gummies that you know would. only stay in your system for a few hours. as of now and I stay pretty on top of. the literature it's still very uh you. can still circumvent the tests even with. highest scrutiny so you know with things.

like test. EPO I've seen upwards of 50% of subjects. in studies getting around tests trying. to find if they're doping like knowing. that they're using guys in the study as. subjects of you're getting micro doed. EPO and we're going to test you for it. rigorously and still passing even when. they're trying to catch them via the. study parameters so I think a lot of. people are going to be doing the same. [ __ ] they've been doing I think the. scrutiny is going to be similar probably. but perhaps more uh like at least nitz's.

framing it like there's more budget. being allocated to some of the more. rigorous test but I don't know I imagine. it'll be similar but I've also heard. that this organization also works with. the NBA and some other uh Pro Sports. which are traditionally seen as pretty. laxs in contrast yeah so I would imagine. it's going to be a little more LAX and i. would support that yeah I I I certainly. support guys taking things to recover. from injuries like Connor did with his. leg injury 100% no question about it I'm.

100% all in on that that's the only way. no one comes back from that no one has. ever come back from that catastrophic. leg break yeah the shin break not a. single athlete has come back from it and. performed at the same level Anderson. Silva is the only guy who came back and. fought multiple times and he was not the. same. guy yeah yeah it's uh I don't know like. Conor's definitely got a got a win when. he [ __ ] comes back like he it's kind. of like his legacy like not entirely. hinged on it or anything but I mean it's.

he's got a lot to live up to to not just. oh yeah yeah but also if you were a. coach and you wanted to look at this in. terms of a long-term career strategy I. would want a tuneup fight 100% I would. not want him going right in there again. against Islam makev yeah he's still. trying to go like balls deep and pick. the hardest dudes well that's him that's. why he's a champion that's why he's a. warrior I mean he he feels like he could. just get but one of the things that he. said about the Dustin porier fight the.

first one uh the first the second fight. but the first one of the most recent. ones where he got knocked out he said I. was inactive he goes it just uh it. caught up to me I could feel it I could. feel it while I was in there my timing. wasn't as good you know you need to be. active to be at the the highest levels. of worldclass mixed martial arts. competition I just don't see how you can. take two years off multiple surgeries. get on juice get off juice and then jump. in there against the best in the world.

maybe he can do it but if I was his. coach and the option was available I'd. say Let's get someone who's not even in. the top 15 let's get some guy who is. beatable but a good test it's a we'll. call it a tuneup fight you we get to see. how you perform this guy gets an. opportunity to beat Conor McGregor you. get an opportunity to test your skills. again and feel the lights and feel the. pressure get your timing back have that. fight six months later you have a big. fight do you know when UFC 300 would be.

like that seems like a pretty big event. that they would probably when is that. supposed to be Jamie April I think April. I think is that too soon for him to be. fighting well there's a six-month thing. in the pool right so here we are in. November contingent on us sat though. yeah in contingent on whether right. right if you saw is out maybe they don't. have a six-month thing anymore oh. right I wonder if he's uh like obviously. that's an event you would think he'd be.

in I would think I you would definitely. want him in that event but then the. thing is like here's a good question if. you give someone an exemption you let. them take get out of the. pool and they're taking some hardcore. steroids to heal their their Shin break. what how much how much gain do you. maintain from that Improvement in your. performance because it's not zero no. it's uh I think a lot of it is also. indirect through the time in the gym and.

skill acquisition because a lot of. people Overlook the recovery capacity. enhancing component so it's like if. you're able to it's not just about how. much muscle you've gained and objective. measurements of oh your bench press went. up by x amount it's also how many more. hours were you able to train relative to. your competition because of this and. that's that many more hours working on X. skill this skill that doing your. endurance whatever you're able to do. more things and have more bandwidth. allocated to your you know skill uh I.

don't know sustaining or you know. development so as far as the studies go. for retention of what's called myonuclei. like how much you can actually Bank up. from steroid use it doesn't seem to be. something that's going to sustain for I. don't know in perpetuity like we once. thought is kind of finicky if that's. actually something that happens or not. like a lot of people will still shrink. back down when they come off. but he's competing pretty soon after. being like what appeared to be pretty.

[ __ ] full board like the guy was. essentially unrecognizable compared to. traditional you know Connor yeah he. looked like a light heavyweight yeah it. was like to me his face looked like the. first time a guy takes gear like oh wow. you've gained like 15 pounds of water. yeah yeah yeah everything got big so. yeah like it didn't even look like it. was an attempt to do it in a you know. I'm trying to micro do way it's like a. real cycle seemingly right so and why. not if you're not being tested and you. can so and it's probably fun yeah yeah.

yeah I yeah for sure but the question is. like when it comes to Performance like. physical ability strength power speed. you don't go back to zero so no I think. you would retain some of it what like. how much of it that would be so. speculative m so I think. speculate like let's say a guy takes one. cycle of testosterone at like a. traditional amount that guys use like. 500 milligrams is a pretty common like.

bodybuilder starting level cycle is that. per week yeah 500 milligrams per week so. that's like you know three to three and. a half times what a traditional trt dose. would be that would gain you you know a. significant amount of lean mass and. strength and you would probably SU suain. that for again as the hormones work its. way out your system even as they're. residually leaving you still have that. bleed of hormone that's sustaining even. during your training subjecting yourself. to you know even if you had poor sleep.

heavy weight cutting like you still have. synthetic drug that is bleeding out of. your system and holding at least. nonfluctuating values other than the. bleedout time so the size difference. yeah it's wild look at him 2022 he's. [ __ ] massive the face difference is. like the most staggering to me too look. at his neck so weight cut I don't know. how dude that shot with him on the. bottom left yeah with his arm around the. dude he looked oh they cut off his quads. but his quads looked [ __ ] nutty in. that picture yeah the one where it shows.

him at the bottom of those three. photographs Jamie that is when he made. weight for 145 though a Skeletor bro. yeah he was literally starving himself. that's wild he was starving he looks. like one of those Like Pirates of the. Caribbean yeah monsters yeah that's what. he looked like back then so yeah I think. that you know within the span of. competing within a year like you're. going to. retain um like it would take depending. on how fast the compound would work its.

way to your system depends on the Ester. chosen like I'm sure you're familiar. with your testosterone is probably a. testosterone cypionate for example so. that like determines how long it will. hold uh take to metabolize out of your. body so that one has close to a 10day. half life so that would take 50 days. essentially to clear out of your system. so for him if you cleared out something. that took 50 days to get out like you. would still have residual benefit for. months thereafter for sure and whether.

it's going to be 100% or 0% you know I. would speculate it be somewhere in the. middle you know you're going to lose a. lot of the temporary weight fairly. rapidly though like a lot of that blood. volume water retention will dissipate. within the first number of weeks and. then after that you're kind of whatever. tissue You' accumulated will slowly go. over the next months which You' probably. retain I don't know I would say half by. the time he maybe 25 to 50% but that's. you know do you think the attitudes. about this stuff are changing because it.

used to be you know the Barry Bonds Mark. Maguire Sammy Sosa they're cheaters. these guys are cheating do you think. that the perception will change as the. use of these things gets accepted more. first maybe with peptides then with some. other things and realize like look. sports are all about watching people do. the greatest [ __ ] things that's. physically. possible why are we stopping them from. using modern science to do this when we. use modern science to enhance every.

other thing yeah I think uh the stigma. around it is largely media hype and like. tabooed discussion of like all this. thing is not you know you're a it's like. frowned upon if you're using it but. platforms that are educational and. provide um insight into the realities of. the pros and cons I think are becoming. more widespread and viewed and the. exposure is getting out there to. actually bring to light the validity of.

certain use cases so like with a bpc 157. the only thing you'll hear from you know. W is how it's banned and it's. performance enhancing but then you'll. hear guys like us who we talk about hey. this is literally essentially a. bioidentical compound that you produce. naturally in the gut so it's not like. some synthetic you know Pharma sketch. drug in addition it's pretty well. tolerated given the anecdotes we have. there's not like human literature but. very impactful on recovery and it's uh.

you know we know tons of people who've. used it with great success and it's like. I don't know anybody who used it that. has had a problem yeah so now that's not. to say it's risk-free cuz it's like Pro. angiogenesis which would be cancer cell. promoting in the wrong situation and. context but like in general there's more. education than ever and it continues to. accelerate bringing attention to the. validity of you know even the stem cells. that you can only get out of the country. like where are you going to hear about. that [ __ ] at scale other than a platform.

like this right like you would probably. get scrutinized the hell if you were. talking about that in like a traditional. mainstream medium like that's illegal in. the US 100% And then you know that's one. of the most important things I think. about your show and about a lot of shows. like that is that you don't tiptoe. around on these things you're just. completely open and honest about them. and that encourages other people to do. the same and then you're also really. well read on these things so these. discussions get had in a form and then. when you're talking to like guys like.

huberman or Peter AA you're talking to. these you know legitimate scientists. that can back up this and explain what. the pathways and the mechanisms behind. all these things are so it gives people. I think right now we have a much more. balanced understanding of what these. things are and what the benefits are. yeah no absolutely and I hope more. people uh continue to uh seek education. and it's great to see like the more. mainstream adoption from guys like cuber. mintia because you know it's also a big.

hurdle for traditional scientists to go. like against the mainstream narrative. and kind of accept that there could be. validity to a compound that's seen as. you know for research purposes or things. of that nature or you know it's illegal. in the US so it must be bad it's like. well maybe look at both sides of the. equation yeah for sure but listen man. it's always cool to talk to you I'm glad. you're out there and you are the the. poster boy for uh if you look at like. low production value but High reward I. mean you have a [ __ ] air conditioning.

system behind you still have that in. those videos oh it's the same man this. wood panel and an air conditioner behind. you and you know it's super successful. so I'm I'm really happy for you and I'm. really happy you're out there because. I've learned a lot of [ __ ] from you. thanks man I appreciate that my pleasure. uh more plates more dates on YouTube. Instagram everywhere yep exactly that's. it all right thanks brother appreciate. you awesome all right bye everybody.

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