Joe Rogan Experience #2057 - Dale Brisby

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. [Music]. dayis joean it's good to pleasure. pleasure to meet you lockwise feel like. I shouldn't have these on either show me. that hat bro let's go. oh there's a couple I hope I didn't. overdo it I've been here for three years. it's about time I wore one of these. [ __ ] hats this is uh my brother made.

this belt and buckle oh nice that was an. idea I had oh that's very. cool oh [ __ ]. yeah oh it's got my name on it and. everything yeah that's a handmade it's. got a little elk antler look at that. folks Christmas made that Christmas. really I hope that fits I hope it fits. too here we go I got a fat head oh it's. backwards. oh oh my gosh is that good bro that fits.

fits how's it look Jamie all right you. [ __ ] that. face honestly I don't know how they're. supposed to fit that's pretty close cuz. they like they stick up a lot and I feel. like that's not how it's supposed to be. but everybody says that is how so it. does there's there's like two modes that. you can put it in yeah you know like. there's just. like if you're just out honky tonking or. then if you're about to like you know.

get on a bron or something get serious. and you like pull it down it makes your. ears. crunch no that's like that's like a. fight mode I think maybe this is too. small does it I was it's a. 3/8 does it stretch a little bit but. heat it up I'll get you a hat heat it up. steam it Ste the whole thing I don't. know made here in Texas are they it's. American hat made in Texas feels like an. American hat made in Texas I'll get you. I'll get you a half that's a 38.

it's pretty close right about there it. feel can feels like I'm [ __ ] real. Texan godamn. it that's what I was thinking I was like. my man's needs a cowboy hat I definitely. need one now I have one we're good now I. feel complete I'm real close to saying. y'all yeah I'm getting close a couple. times right around the. corner I've been here for three years. now yeah I'm never moving I [ __ ] love. this place do you yeah love it I can't. imagine living any else Texas is fun.

it's just like you go everywhere else. and there's so many rules you're like. why yeah why you guys have all these. rules like do we really need them does. it make you better does it make Society. better does it make you safer [ __ ] out. of here I feel like in Texas you can. experience true Freedom yeah well this. is a crazy place you ever uh read the. history of the place you ever read like. any uh books on how this place was sort. of established like when they conquered. the commes and the Texas Rangers like.

the Yano esticado and all that wild the. history is just so insane like no wonder. why they resisted becoming a state for. so long like we got this it's brutal. yeah some of that some of those stories. are just like oh my God you got to set. them down and come back to them yeah. Empire the summer moon is like that like. there's some of the horrific Tales of. torture and what they woo those Kam atch. were some wild folks they were some wild. folks I mean if I can have like a like. an invis ible bubble and go back in time.

and just experience it without them. knowing I was there I would love to see. what that was like yeah it was a brutal. time man I feel brutal have you seen. Lonesome Dove yes yeah I feel like it's. probably pretty close to what it was. like yeah I mean just guessing I mean. everyone's just sort of trying to. recreate those moments and try to but I. think the the it's just hard to believe. that just I mean when did they really.

conquer this area was like the. 1800s so less than 200 years ago not. that long ago not that long ago this. place was wild yeah like wild my great. great Grandad was a Texas. Ranger and like he actually met quana. Parker whoa yeah in like sitting in a TP. with him and uh um like he wrote a book. it's like really wild times of back in.

the day and like homesteading and but it. was like I'm not that far away from. meeting that guy I mean obviously you. can't meet your great great granddad but. like you can almost Reach Out And Touch. him far yeah not that far when you think. about a human life like how long ago it. was right I always say like 19 1776. United States was established people Liv. to be 100 that's three people ago three. people ago that's three people ago three. people ago I mean it's when you think. about it that way you're like wait for.

real three people ago was 1776 but yeah. you put him birth to death that's real. that's real that's real that is a. [ __ ] snap of the fingers when it. comes to human history it's nothing yeah. yeah that's why people go to talking. about changing like I don't know there. we're changing pretty fast it's changing. pretty fast here right now I think maybe. we could slow down a little bit I wish. we could I had uh Elon Musk on the other. day were talking about AI like slowing.

down artificial. intelligence and you know he's basically. like yeah I said maybe we should do that. but no one's going to listen yeah he. went to that conference at the end of it. yeah it's [ __ ] scary [ __ ] dude. because as quickly as the world changed. for the Native Americans when the. Europeans moved here that that world is. going to change even quicker for us if. AI takes. over it's the Terminator man and he's. like he's so close to it and he's. worried about it the way he talked about.

you know just like the extinction people. and you guys are like that's a whole. another world I didn't realize like. people that don't value human life are. in charge of this it's like gets a. little scary yeah there's some people. out there that. are not well and they miss the point and. they probably don't have anybody around. them that gets it but anybody that says. like I don't want to have kids and why. would you have kids today I would never. want to bring a kid up in this world. people had kids before they figured out.

floors right that's why we're here yeah. like don't you like people this is my. thing like you don't want to have kids. like how do you think people get. made you need kids and then they become. people that you like right like yeah. it's a lot of responsibility yeah yeah. yeah it's difficult it's a hard if if. [ __ ] goes wrong for them it feels. terrible for you yeah yeah yeah the. world's crazy but there's more books and. Medicine information now than never yeah.

there's problems yeah there's [ __ ]. there's never been a time when people. have been alive ever that didn't have. problems we create [ __ ] problems we. just kind of swapped them for yeah the. early days you know it's just different. problems yeah we don't have to worry. about starving to death anymore now we. have to worry about being too fat and. eating ourselves to death it's a. different problem we just got to put. them on Carnivore that would help yep. that would help but then the the people. that are thinking they should eat bugs. and.

only vegetables are freaking out yeah. you know because they there's this. Mantra that people chant out that like. you need to stop eating meat to save the. world like that's not going to work kids. right that's not going to do it that's. not going to do you want to say we. should get rid of factory farming yeah. horrific conditions that animals live. under there's no reason for that they. should be living like regenerative. farming we should figure that out. animals should live like animals are. supposed to live it shouldn't be stuffed. into little cages and you know [ __ ].

pumped by machines to get their milk out. like it would be nice if things were. more natural like like if you get like a. good regenerative Farm like White Oaks. pastures or some place like that what. they do is just recreate nature in a. contained environment yeah cattle's room. chickens roam you use the manure to. fertilize your food that's how people. are supposed to do it yeah vertical. integration yeah supposed to be it's. supposed to be like an ecosystem that it. all nature knows how to do it it all. works together and when it does that.

it's basically carbon neutral which is. really incredible but instead of. concentrating on the things we're doing. wrong they just they have like this. blanket solution we to eliminate meat. and save the planet like you're still. not going to save the planet like you. it's not and it's not saving the planet. it's saving the human impact of the. planet and unless China's on board and. unless India's on board you're not going. to put a dent in that right it just. seems like yeah like maybe it is making. an impact but like if everything else.

that's going on is going to cause it I. mean how much of an impact at what cost. you know like Jordan Peterson talks. about with are there some other things. we could be doing with like helping. poverty you know raising up the. poverished that would be much better you. know what I mean like all these. resources that are going towards certain. things like I'm not saying we shouldn't. do some of it but are there some other. ways that I kind of threw out the. Playbook as far as like nutrition. somebody. said half the people people that die of. a heart attack didn't have high.

cholesterol I think it was on huberman. that I heard that and you I mean you can. fact check me but like I'm pretty sure. like huberman has said that but like 50%. of the people that died of a heart. attack didn't have high cholesterol and. that like high cholesterol it just made. me question everything I'm not trying to. make like some scientific claim because. I'm a cowboy but it made me it's like. maybe meat is less of an enemy than what. mainstream is trying to tell everybody.

that's the main point meat is eaten by. 95% of the people on the planet and we. have since the beginning of time if if. meat was killing everybody that would. killed us off a long time ago meets the. most nutrient-dense food you can eat we. just have all these problems in this. country in terms of what the what. narratives are being spread and what. information's being spread and one of. the big ones that started it off was was. it the ' 50s of the 60s for the sugar. industry so the 1950s the sugar industry. paid off.

these scientists to fake this study to. fake these results and have it say that. saturated fat is the cause of heart. disease and not sugar because there was. an obvious increase so here it is. documents showed that trade group called. sugar Research Foundation known today as. the sugar Association paid three Harvard. scientists the equivalent of about. $50,000 and today's dollars to publish a. 1967 review of research on sugar fat and. heart disease so it was a complete.

[ __ ] heart paper that these guys. created that had everyone including me. when I was growing up and most people. that have listened to this that haven't. looked into it we thought that saturated. fat was causing heart disease yeah when. really was sugar right the massive overc. consumption of sugar that started when. people started adding sugar to. everything and adding corn syrup to. everything when they subsidize corn they. all this corn turns it into corn syrup. started adding it sweetness into. everything and like people started.

getting fat as [ __ ] and having heart. attacks and the sugar industry is like. we got to blame somebody else who are we. going to blame like let's blame this. thing that people have been eating since. the beginning of time let's blame. saturated fat and let's say l you know. the dietary cholesterol affects your. overall health and like godamn. cholesterol is like literally what you. need to form hormones cholesterol it's a. building block of your human body it's. like it's critical yeah it's a critical. thing and there's LDL and HDL and to try.

to figure out what's what you need like. a like a huberman to sit down and break. something like that down to you and then. there's also hereditary issues that. people have some people really should be. on a low cholesterol diet and some. people have heart disease they're born. with there's a lot of factors yeah yeah. the um the carbs and the sugar that's. the big one man that's the big one you. can cut that [ __ ] out of your life. you'll be better off be better off a lot.

better off and I don't mean all carbs. aren't aren't you on it right now yeah. I'm on Carnivore diet yeah but I did eat. a pizza with the pizza couldn't stop. couldn't stop thank God Jamie took it. away and then you got mad at him for. taking it I know it's like [ __ ] I was. like a Gollum in the. ring my precious my precious my precious. how many of those slices did you smoke. down at least five or six right there's. only two left so he only had like one or. two I ate most of the pie that's why he. took it he wanted a piece he didn't want. a piece did not he was not interested in.

fish Jamie is an anti-fish man that's. right you said that you know people are. pulling all the fish out of the ocean. Jamie is not responsible for any of that. he lives guilt-free about the fish. genocide nothing to do with that if I. had a piece of pizza it would wreck me. right now well well you just got done. working out with Tim Kennedy yes that's. not a good idea to do anything where you. have to be functional for the rest of. the day my my man Ty in there that was. with us yeah we got done with the warmup. and he went in the bathroom started.

throwing up the. warmup like Tim's warm-ups are way more. extreme than most people's workouts yeah. and he does that all the time he's not. [ __ ] around just for you that's like. you he just took you he just he didn't. have to torture you just take you and do. what he does and that'll torture you by. itself well I got him a ticket last. night to your show and that was how he. repaid Me by torturing you he was like. all right I'll go with you he was. planning on torturing you anyway he he. told me when he was when he had. when he was sitting in here he told me.

he was going to get you I don't work out. with that [ __ ] dude get out of here. man he did he's that's a that's a real. Savage right there Bonafide like I was. saying I bet that dude makes his gum. bleed every time he brushes his teeth he. does he does everything hard yeah he ex. he works out the way you would expect. him to after you have a conversation. with him oh yeah he's intense yeah but. you know we need people like that I'd. like to see him and cam work out. together oh it would be fun yeah that. haven't has he not done cam show yet not. yet oh he needs to do Cam he's talked.

about it oh they have to do it yeah. those are the only two times I've thrown. up in workouts him Cam and with yeah cam. is all about reps he'll make you do like. a 100 reps of 135 pounds like what the. [ __ ] are we doing dude we got off that. mountain and went straight to the bow. rack and I kept going into the bathroom. we're adjusting my bow and I kept going. in the bathroom and Wayne was like I. think you need to check on him and Cam's. like well he's fine we just it was like. 12 12 miles and I was throwing up it was.

coming out both. ends him and Tim they're the only ones. that got me like that it's hard to shoot. after you're that tired too yeah it's. hard to stay like stay stable if I come. here after lifting and I try to shoot my. arms are just they don't communicate. well no my arm doesn't want to stay. steady this arm's all shaky it's just he. you know he calls it lift run shoot but. I [ __ ] think it would should be shoot. lift run I don't think you should I.

don't when I practice like archery in. the morning I don't do jack [ __ ] before. I practice archery yeah I want to be. loose I loosen my arms up a little I. take some breathing exercises I don't. want to be out of breath I don't be. anything like I know on the mountains. there's going to be moments where you're. out of breath and all that stuff but I. feel like getting in shape is the. solution for that right I don't think. the solution is try to shoot when you're. exhausted you just develop bad habits. but cam doesn't really shoot before he.

he calls it lift run shoot but he really. shoots before he lifts yeah he'll tell. you the same thing like you know you you. really want to be you want to have. confidence in your shooting and the only. way to do that really is to be like. relaxed and not not exhausted you don't. want your arms exhausted the whole idea. is like you're trying to build. repetition over you need thousands of. reps to be able to execute the way he. does yeah you know you watch him every. [ __ ] day he does the same way every. day is muscle memory it's just built.

into them W yeah it was it was intense. being up there there's a lot of. similarities between him and Tim you. know being around him yeah and I'm sure. you're pretty similar to both of those. guys but I'm a little more loose than. those Fells I like to get [ __ ] up I. like to party a little I like to have. fun yeah you're also a comedian so you. got it's different but as far in the. comedian world I'm about as disciplined. as it gets you know I can tell in the. comedian world my my life the way I live.

is a little odd well if if you're. thinking about what I think you're think. like how long that was like an hour last. night that you were on stage I had two. shows too I had a 10 o' too and I just. kept thinking like damn like that's a. lot of work and the timing of it like I. can't imagine the work you have to put. cuz like I got comedian in my bio but. that's really like YouTube You Know. YouTube and talking [ __ ] is a little. different than stand up yeah it is it's.

different cuz you're not doing in front. of a live audience but it's still being. funny you know I'm not dismissive of. YouTube comedians you know there's a lot. of people that don't like when YouTubers. go and do live shows like should be. happy that anyone's doing live shows. let's have fun like what do you give a. [ __ ] you know like some comedians don't. like it when comedians use music or when. they use props or when they use this or. that like who gives a [ __ ] yeah just go. have fun right put on a good show you. can put on a good show with a slideshow. if you're good at it right figure out a. way to put together a great show with SL.

Paulie sh's there this weekend and he's. got this great show of like the the. history of his life like all these jokes. written into it and everything but he. shows all these slides of him like as a. young kid and all kinds of [ __ ]. hilarious F him being baby sap by Sam. Kennison so it's like you could do. comedy all kinds of ways and Paulie does. it regular way too but he put together. this thing like yeah H why not you know. [ __ ] do a YouTube comedy show do. [ __ ] Tik Tok who gives a [ __ ] yeah. have fun. yeah that's I guess my life was just.

kind of pointing in a different. direction with you know. rodeoing and you know that was kind of. my deal you know and that's what all my. time has been my entire life is like in. in and around an arena or on the back of. a horse out in the pasture but I've. always had a respect for stand-up. comedians that's kind of my skydiving I. guess maybe one day you should try it. yeah yeah just sit down come up with. some stuff to talk about [ __ ] around. practice it record it see what it sounds.

like you know maybe try some jokes out. on your friends yep you know maybe sneak. it in there if you have a couple of. beers. yep just [ __ ] dip your toes in who. who knows man most of the time with. cameras we'll do one take but yeah you. don't get that second take on stage no. you don't but you learn how to not get. you don't get that second take on a. horse either that's 100% true yeah I. mean it's like with a lot of you don't. get that second take and you're shooting. an arrow at a bull right it's like you. know there a lot of things in life you.

don't get a second take you can prepare. as much as you could prepare yeah and. then you got to figure out how to go. with the flow you got to figure out the. thing that's what's fun what's fun is. you don't know what's going to happen. like. we that's some of the most fun things in. life you have [ __ ] no idea where it's. going to go what's crazy about the the. standup part is whenever guys you guys. go to talking to the crowd like Matt rif. that you had on the other day and like. his crowd work and stuff oh he's great. at that yeah I get that's where I think. it's like you're able to still be funny.

but I mean like it's improv oh yeah yeah. a real a guy who's really good at that. is it's it's really fun to watch because. they're just making a show out of thin. air and [ __ ] around with people hinch. Cliff's really good at that um Andrew. Schultz is amazing at that he might be. the best at it he's really good at that. yeah that Hing Cliff was hilarious last. night oh he man he's he's a maniac his. delivery just thr you know he's setting. something up and then he just yeah this. is kid Rick Ingram out of La he's one of.

the best ever at crowd work he's [ __ ]. amazing at he'll do his whole show with. crowd work he's really he's got baked in. bits too that he could go to you know if. like someone's from a specific place and. it's [ __ ] genius yeah he's a master. at that but it's you know it's there's a. bunch of different ways to do it yeah. you know you could you could do it I I I. feel like anybody could do it if you're. funny right you're definitely funny yes. sir no I appreciate it I I feel like you. know like I would get on a bull or a. horse and like have a certain feeling.

and then that would be completely. different for me I'm sure it' be swapped. for a lot of you guys you know if you. had to switch and get on a bull. obviously but oh yeah every new crazy. thing is a totally different experience. you know like I can't imagine riding a. [ __ ] bull that was one of one times. on Fear Factor where I told the. producers don't do it don't do it I got. there and they had these one of the. girls was like 98 lbs this tiny little. lady and they had her ride in this boy. go dude don't don't do this to these. people and the [ __ ] the stunt men are.

some of the hardest dudes you will ever. meet those dudes are not worried about. Broken Bones they break them all the. time they're not worried about [ __ ] so. they're not worried about themselves. getting injured they take precautions. you know they they're professional but. they're definitely not worried about. these [ __ ] getting injured either. they don't want them to get injured but. they'll put them in danger yeah and I. was like these are [ __ ] bulls and the. the dunk guy he was hilarious he always. had a dip in his mouth and he was on set. so often that he stopped spitting his. dip because he couldn't like carry.

around a cup so he just started. swallowing it so he swallows his dip. what kind of a man is just there. swallowing dip for. decades that kind of dude yeah and so he. was like don't worry boo there're stunt. Bulls I go there's stunt Bulls I go that. bull know he's a stunt bull I bet he. thinks he's a [ __ ] bull I bet he has. no idea what a stunt bull is yeah and. the stunt bull is like a less aggressive. for sure yeah that thing was aggressive. as [ __ ] I call them I call like the one. I have he would be like my bucket list.

bull because like if somebody just. wanted to get on a bull for the hell of. it like I would put him on this one. black bull we call him trunk he just. jumps and kicks around there and he's a. little he's kind of predictable and he's. not mean at the end of it and then we've. got some other bulls that you know will. get it on in the gate and then be mean. and might try to kill you but I imagine. I I vaguely remember the show and what I. remember about it it would be like. something probably a notch or two above. trunk like my bucket list type bull rod.

like if you were to get on a bull I. would put you on trunk yeah it's not. gonna. happen I'm so not interested in that. they don't want me on there I don't want. to be on there we got a relationship. that way it's we got a good agreement. and and normally I try to talk people. out of it good like I got my whole. program like is revolves around like. interns coming in like my Netflix show. was those like my my my interns learning. how to Rodeo and they uh and so I've got.

guys coming in that want to ride Bulls. want to ride Bronx and I'll tell them. like all the thing like listen number. one you could die or worse you know you. could die from the neck down and not the. neck up you know right and I'll just be. real with them I'll have three or four. of those conversations and if they still. want to do it well then I'll teach them. you know because there's there are some. precautions you can take to minimize. risk but there's always risk yeah you. get you might get kicked yep stepped on. you might get stomped you get stomped by. a bull like good.

Lord have you been stomped oh yeah what. does that feel like. uh I've broke I've broke a lot of Bones. like this I broke my sternum like you. know getting kick you know stepped on in. the chest that that one's pretty bad but. a lot of the worst ones would be like. concussions that's the those are the. ones that'll stick with you you know. those bones will heal but the. concussions will kind of you know that. CTE that's something that's not measured. in Rodeo. right you know what I mean right you get.

some guys that all of a sudden start. getting knocked out just they can think. about getting jerked down and it might. knock them out yeah that gets sketchy. right yeah when the chin goes yeah yeah. I mean it's just like Fighters you get. knocked out too many times and you get. knocked out really easily it's very. spooky to see when I see it in Fighters. it makes me very concerned like. sometimes you got a guy who's just maybe. had just too many fights and they used. to be real durable and then you see get. dinged once and you see like instantly.

the legs go and you're like oh my God he. barely got touched yep and he got. rocked yeah there's just I'm sure with. Fighters too there's just this once that. sport grabs a hold of your soul it's so. hard to let it go and it's the most. exciting moments of your life is winning. and and and competing and that that high. is so high that regular life seems like. a dull gray and I think it's very hard. for them and it's also hard for them. because their identity gets wrapped up.

in being a fighter a lot of my friends. that have retired they real they really. struggle like trying to figure out who. they are afterwards and then they. entertain one more fight and then it's. like but they don't really want a fight. they just want something that makes them. excited again yes sir and there's kind. of a I think the winning and going down. the road is part of it and then you you. have those certain. individuals that and I think. I mean you know a lot of them in that.

world I I feel like cowboy is definitely. one of them Cerrone but like in Rodeo. when there's somebody that is in love. with the actual fight yeah you know like. I think a lot of people and these guys. get weeded out they don't have that long. of a career in Rodeo I'm sure fighting. is the same that like they like to have. fought they like to have rid and Bulls. but then you get those guys who like. cameras are off nobody's there and they. don't they want to get on a bron like.

they love the thrill of that fight not. in your head the gate opens and it's. it's you and it's so pure so pure and. I'm sure like a fighter that is just. they're just hungry for it yeah the. actual between the. bells yeah that's what's scary may maybe. all of them that on your level you. they're all like that I think they would. have to be I guess to a degree once they. get to the highest level I mean that. that is who they are you know like. Donald I mean he's a pure fighter. but Donald is also very he has a lot of.

interests I'm not worried about Donald. transitioning cuz he's he I think he has. a legit possibility to be a movie star I. think he could do it if any of those. guys could do I mean movies are always. looking for like a a real hard looking. Cowboy [ __ ] and Donald's that. guy yeah I mean he's perfect for movies. I I could see him like Randy cotour has. turned it into a career in films you. know with the Expendables movies and all. kinds of other [ __ ] I I could see Donald.

doing that easy 100% yeah Chuck did it a. little mhm uh yeah we're working on a. comedy I don't know if you saw his short. that he did at his Ranch the other day. on Halloween he put out like a 10-minute. like like a little mini movie Donald did. yeah it it's it's really cool it was. very well put together and uh we're. working on he and I are doing like a. comedy where nice yeah so I got a guy. working for me that's writing it right. now so it'll be fun Donald he's a he's a.

wild boy yeah he wants you to come out. to his uh kids camp seems what is that. what is his kids camp uh it's it's in. the summer in June he does like he just. has kids come out and they just learn to. be like miniature Cowboy cerris like. they they we shoot bows guns um they. roll every day and they just there's. sessions campfire sessions at night. that's likees 50 60 kid that's his. that's probably the thing he's most. passionate about now that he's done.

fighting is that's beautiful he talks. about it all the time he's got a good. heart yeah he really does yeah he a good. man but he told a story on this podcast. about getting trapped in a cave while. cave diving with this dude and the dude. panicked and the cave got filled up with. mud you couldn't see anything one of the. even though he was right there and I. knew he survived like it was one of the. most [ __ ] terrifying stories I've. ever heard in my life cuz he was running. out of air and he couldn't figure out. how to get out of the cave cuz it was. all filled with silt so he's like.

searching around for the opening to try. to figure out how to get out yeah that. an intense story [ __ ] thinking about his. family thinking about his kids and his. wife and and never see them again he's. going to die in this cave like [ __ ] he's. got that never quit attitude yeah and. also like don't go cave diving with. people who Panic yeah you know just. people who Panic are dangerous don't do. anything with people that Panic don't do. anything like you have to experience.

Panic many times in your life and figure. out how to manage that before you start. [ __ ] around in caves yeah that should. not be the first time you really Panic. I'm nervous if a situation went down. that. I I'm not saying I'd be some badass I'm. just saying like I might be too. desensitized having been around Rodeo. like yeah an emergency situation would. be like we'd be 8 n 10 seconds into it. before I'm like oh man we need to do. something right right just cuz like. seeing guys get crashed in the arena and.

and like having to help them you know. situations like that right I don't know. but I'm sure. Fighters are the same way but they. definitely get desensitized to people. getting hurt yep for sure you know one. time uh my wife uh she had like a one of. those SUVs with a hatchback thing and. she was taking something out of the back. and the the corner of the door was above. her head and she didn't know know and. she stood up and slammed it the corner.

of it right into the top of her head and. Blood starts trickling down her face she. was freaking out and I looked at her I'm. like it's like that big it's like a. little cut we could super glue it I was. like it's nothing yeah I was like to me. it was like if was that was my head I. would be like oh it's just a little cut. it's no big deal but you're like. BL and I'm like oh my God I'm so it's a. person I love more than anyone and I'm. so desensitized to like a little cut. yeah like this is nothing yeah this is. like a barely an injury I'm so used to.

seeing people just bust it open their. [ __ ] eyelids hanging off their face. and like don't stop the fight Let Them. Fight You know you're so used to seeing. guys that that probably have a broken. hand because they haven't thrown it in. two rounds he's so used to seeing guys. get [ __ ] I've seen so many guys I've. seen like four guys have their legs. snapped from checking kicks now you see. you see so many injuries yeah you get so. desensitized seeing people just getting. [ __ ] knocked into another dimension.

with a head kick it's so normal how. rodeoed with a guy um we went together. for years Ross shared he was a marine so. he came back from Iraq and started. riding bear back horses and he. got he got uh jerked down into like a. pipe vence and uh just like crushed his. face like had to like surgery and like. and he just never knocked out just like. stood up and he's this little stocky you.

know Marine you know like door to door. marine and he just like walks out he's. like I'm going to go down here to the. hospital just blood everywhere broken. eye socket broken everything and uh you. know we helped him and uh but it made me. think you know like I feel like I've. seen quite a bit of injuries with the. rodeo Arena but I can't imagine guys. like Ross or even Tim right who have. done MMA and been to Afghanistan yeah. that's a different level of seeing. people get [ __ ] up yeah watch somebody. come out without an arm not just an arm.

broken well you know Tulsa gabard she. has that white streak in her hair that. that came when she was deployed when she. was working on these medical units dang. yeah that's where she got that just from. the horrors of seeing all these people. shot up blown up trying save their lives. trying to put them back together again. yeah dang yeah yeah that's something you. can't unsee yeah yeah there's I mean and.

there's so many people in this world. that have experienced. nothing right and just floating around. yeah not not having any experience with. any kind of chaos yeah a little bit of. pain here and there is uh I don't know. just to show you what the good times. mean it gives you some perspect. perspective for sure and seeing how. vulnerable the human body is you know. we're vulnerable as [ __ ] yep whether we.

like to think of it or not think of. yourself as a badass you're still made. out of basically a [ __ ] meat water. balloon right you know it's it'll it'll. it'll make it is this water open yeah. yeah let's grab that it'll make a guy. come to Jesus on the back of the shoots. that's for sure oh yeah especially. coming back from an injury oh I would. imagine you know cuz then you got to get. back on the horse right literally yep. yeah how did you start rodeoing when how. old were you I mean I was born into it. my dad.

was I was kind of I was on the rough. roughy end of the Arena so like if you. go to a rodeo Arena there'll be timed. event side and a rough stock side the. timed event is like uh Team. Roping uh calf rope and barrel racing. and then the rough stock end is the. bucking horses bucking bulls bull. fighters pickup men there's five things. you can do down there um beback sadle. Bron bull riding and then the pickup man. and the bull fighters so there's five. jobs you do on that rough stock end and.

my dad did all those and so like I grew. up like a ruffy so to speak and fell in. love with all of it and uh you know it's. kind of two stories bull Riden I'm the. greatest of all time and the most humble. you know I'm sick and tired of YouTube. pulling down all my bull rods you know. it just gets old do they pull your bull. rods down so I'm just so violent just so. violent but Bron routing has been like. the thing that that I've chased and like. that's what that's one of the last.

things my dad did and Bron riding it's. similar to bull riding except it's a. horse not a bull and uh but yeah I got. started young and got on my first bull. whenever I was like 10 or 12 oh my God. you know and. uh and then it was all down here from. there I not I mean I had a little bit of. fear involved but I just knew that was. the path I was going on no matter what. and my dad didn't push me you know but. that's just that was in our blood that's.

just what we did and I was going to do. it whether he pushed me or not and uh. and then I just once it got once that. fight experiencing that fight of every. night I I wasn't much for the party and. there's there's a lot of guys that all. of it together the partying and that. lifestyle like I enjoyed having a good. time but for me being behind the shoots. getting ready for that fight that was. what kept me coming back I would imagine. very few people party as hard as Rodeo. guys I would I would agree with that.

100% I was always in Vegas there's a lot. of times where UFC events or I'll do a. comedy event and it'll align with when. the Rodeo's in town NR and those dudes. are just different like you could see it. in their [ __ ] face you know they're. just different I'm usually driving them. I'm usually driving them yeah I've. always been you know the sober one of. the group but um I me how did you avoid. the. partying my dad didn't and so like just.

when I was a kid like I just kind of I'm. not really ever succumbed to peer. pressure like I just kind of was going. to be on this path and uh he was like. John Wayne mixed. with woodro call mixed with Billy Graham. like he was like a Christian man hard. Cowboy kind of was still a hard ass and. it was so I kind of he didn't like tell. me like you can never drink but I just. did. and then before I knew it I looked it.

back and I I just hadn't drank and I was. having a pretty good time I'm like the. oon like when I get something I get. it and I knew that if I got that it. would get me like I just know that yeah. that's why I've avoided. cocaine I don't I don't do COA I do like. the way it smells but I don't do I've. never even smelled it I'm just kidding I. haven't done that either I had a a. friend of mine when I was in high school. and his cousin started selling it and. his cousin like it's almost like a dude. who got bit by a vampire like he became.

a different person like he became he got. lost a lot of weight got really skinny. wasn't eating and him and his girl would. just they had apartment that was like in. the Attic of this house and uh they. would just sit in their apartment and. like do Coke and watch movies and and. sell Coke and his life kind of just like. Slipped Away into this very bizarre. addiction thing and this was like I. guess I was like 16 or 17 when that was. happen been him and I remember thinking. like [ __ ] that drug whatever that is.

that drug [ __ ] grabs you I don't want. to have nothing to do with that it seems. like one of those Forks in the road and. like when you do try it or do it a. little bit like it's going to take you. down this other like your life takes a. turn uhhuh like that seems like a good. illustration of it's just like what. would he have been like had he never. done that you know right like it just. that and maybe that's kind of the way I. viewed alcohol but. I don't well it certainly is the case. for some people I mean if I had an.

alcoholic in my family maybe I would. avoided alcohol too that was kind of me. too I did have that so yeah if you have. that too and you see how it could wreck. someone's. life it's hard man it's having control. over your urges and especially if you. have a physical addiction you know like. you get physically addicted to alcohol. that is one of the ones that if you kick. it too quick you'll die yeah alcohol and. benzo uh Xanax when people just try to. kick that cold turkey there's a.

possibility you could die yeah scary. [ __ ] yeah I thought it was my sternum I. went in I had some big life stuff. happening and I was like went in my. doctor I thought like you know something. with my cuz my old man died of a heart. attack actually while I was at a rodeo. and uh like in the arena but anyways I. had like some some chest pain and he. went in and doctor was like well do you. have anything big going on I was like. yeah and he and then he started talking. about Xanax and all this and I was like. I guess half ass like panic attacks or.

whatever I don't know and I was like oh. that's what it okay forget we had this. conversation I just walked out like I. didn't want no part of like I just that. kind of stuff would those kind of drug. or pills or whatever you want to call. him would just grab me and not let go I. think well that's Jordan Peterson I mean. he it took him like a full year to. recover so it took him a long time to. kick it and then a full year to get back. to normal again yeah that's that Zanax. stuff is scary and they're just willing. to give it to you they're like hey Dale.

what you freaking out a little bit here. take this this is our anti freakout pill. yeah it'll only cost apparently it's. amazing I've never done it but. apparently people who have done it they. go oh like all of a sudden life is a. breeze like we and I'm sure when there's. like it was for me in that moment like. there's this professional telling you. you should take it makes it like oh man. this guy said I should [ __ ]. stethoscope on yeah he's legit. he's got a pocket protector yeah that's.

d brisbee i got this buckle on you might. as well listen to me about bull riding. must listen yeah it's and they want you. to try it out and and unfortunately. they're incentivized to do that which is. even scarier and also a lot of people. want it right so if you're a doctor and. you got someone who's got a lot of. anxiety and you say would you like Xanax. like yes I would and then boom they got. and they're like thank you doctor I feel. so much better well he did his job I. guess I don't know yes just not for me. yeah me neither so you didn't have a bro.

like the sternum wasn't like re-broken. or anything it was just a panic thing. yeah it was just I was just short of. breath you know and that's it was kind. of the start of me like starting to look. into like you know cholesterol and. whatnot and and like really and. uh It ultimately led to like I'm just. going to change my diet around and but. that that had nothing to do with the. panic attacks but that was kind of it it. snowballed into like me changing my diet. and doing all kinds of different just. realizing you got to get control. yourself yeah for sure but there's a lot.

of people that argue that I went the. opposite direction now just eating all. meat yeah those people I think they. should try it yeah it's I mean it's the. best I've ever felt right I feel my best. when I don't [ __ ] around with bread and. carbs I don't think salads are a problem. but I do think there's a real concern. about the amount of glyphosate that gets. into people's system from from monocrop. monocrop AG gulture that's real I don't. know how much that's doing to you and I.

know that there's been many times in the. past where people have dismissed the. health concerns about a certain. substance and then later on you find out. you know that that [ __ ] kills people. causes cancer and it's a real problem. and it's contributing to all these. autoimmune issues and this and that and. that and this and like oh now we know. but it took 10 years before people. figured it out right there's a lot of. like very legitimate people that are. sounding the alarm about the dangers of. glyphosate and uh the fact that when. they do they did this blood test like.

this uh study on people and they found. that like 90 something per of the people. had glyphosate in their blood even if. it's a small amount like there's a lot. of apologists want to say it's oh it's a. small amount it's very safe like a small. amount of something that kills can kills. you and causes cancer doesn't I don't. like that and it doesn't sound good in. any way shape or form I don't think that. should be dismissed especially when we. don't have long-term studies and how. long have they been using this [ __ ] a. couple of decades who [ __ ] knows what. it's doing to us I don't know I what.

looking I what I do know about is like. the beef you know and like well I say I. know more about that than I do. vegetables and farming and like I'm a. fan of you know I just watched this you. know calf grow and I fed him out and. then I took him and got him processed. and now I'm eating him you know and like. there's just something to that where I. just I don't know that's seems like. natural to me yeah and that seems like.

the way God designed it and I I like. grain finished but some people like. grass-fed I think whatever and uh but. that just I I don't know I just don't. feel like that's wrong I don't think. it's wrong either and there I think. there's a reality of life and death that. a lot of people avoid and they think. that by not eating meat you're you're. somehow or another making life better. for them if you wanted them to live. naturally they would get killed by. wolves and it would be horrible and the. way they get killed get their [ __ ]. hamstrings torn off and they get taken.

down and they immediately tear their. guts out and they swarm them and it's a. horrific death horrific long painful. death and if it's not that they're. freezing to death and if it's not that. it's Mountain lines it's not that it's. Bears it's not that it's starving and. that's the reality of being an animal in. the wild and if you think that somehow. or another like pasture raised animals. that are just chilling having a good. time eating grass not a concern in the. world and then one day they get fed into. a shoot and they get a bolt in their. brain it takes a second and they're.

instantly dead that's a better death a. better life all the above 100% I went to. the sailb barn the other day and I took. an old bull old bucking bull there he. was probably like 10 like when if you're. eating beef odds are that sucker didn't. live past a little over a year like at. the most and so like this Joker had an. extra nine years on his life as a. bucking bull and it's pretty laidback. you know he he does his deal once twice. a week and I and when I sold him I.

bought another bull just I thought he. looked cool and now he's at my house and. uh he's a bucking bull a practice bull. but those other order buyers that were. in the sellborn if they' have bought. that bull like he was going to go I. guess this is just like an extension of. what you're saying like even with Rodeo. people that argue with it like man if. anything I'm giving him a better life. you know but regardless whether that. bull would have come to be a bucket at. my house are going to you know be.

Burger I don't know is that what they. would normally do to them when they're. done with them they turn them into. Burger yeah so whenever you get like an. older cow an older bull um the Ser the. the staks from them are just not as good. like you want a young either like I said. grain fed for me to like this perfect. point you got people in the feed lot. that'll watch them be like that one's. ready and uh and that's what like if you. go to these steakhouses get a prime RI. ey like that was a that was a calf that. was I mean that was not an old steer you.

know he probably weighed 11 1200 lb and. once he got to that weight it was his. time and a steer is a castrated bull. right correct so they how old are they. when they castrate them uh we'll usually. do it pretty young like maybe three. months old yeah and the whole idea with. that is if they grow up like that then. their meat is more tender then they get. bigger their hormones just go a. completely different direction you know. and you can tell like in a. pasture my dad could tell just even a.

six-month-old just he'll come down the. shoot he'll look at his head and he be. like uh got a heer got a bull but like. when they're older like a year or two. you can tell out in the pasture like. that's not a steer that's a bull like. the way they grow is much different. they're like a bull is going to be more. lean a steer's going to have more fat to. them and heers will be that way too they. don't they're they're not as good to eat. is like a steer like if you're getting a. Prime Steak somewhere it's probably a.

steer how. come again like those hormones like. they're just so like a steer's going to. be more muscular than a heer like he. just doesn't have the focus of like. reproduction that she does right you. know and now he does he he doesn't have. any focus of reproduction now that you. castrated him and so like he's all about. his only deal is he's going to grow and. sleep he's going to eat and sleep and so. you grow him and eat them to this. perfect point in the feed lot they'll. start on a cow calf there's three phases.

when they're born that's called cow CF. and that's the more sexy part of. cowboying and ranching is like you see. them out in the pasture and then that. middle phase is the stalker phase and uh. and that's where like a yearin you'll. wean them at like 600 lb and almost a. year then you'll send them to uh wheat. pasture and they'll be there for you. know they'll gain however much weight. maybe get to like 900 and then they'll. go to the feed lot till maybe 1,200 lb.

so that's the third phase is the feed. lot and they'll get finished out and. then they'll get slaughtered at have you. ever eaten an old bull yeah yeah so I. had an old bull get um crippled and I. was like well let's just try like I got. some RI eyes now that I'm on Carnivore. like I need the meat you know right and. I had this old bulll get crippled and. sometimes when they get real bad. crippled you don't want to take them to. sellborn so we'll just process them and. uh it is so much tougher it's so much. tougher like it they wouldn't even sell. it at the grocery store like a like a.

10-year-old bull if you get that riye. it's just not good did you try different. ways of cooking it did you try like. because I would think that would be. would there's probably some ways you. could doctor it up and when I say it's. not good I'm talking like compared to a. prime one steak from but is it more like. wild game like what is it like yeah it's. just it's just it's going to be harder. to chew through you know like an old. bull it's it's just going to be harder. to even the tender loins even The Tender. Loin now those are going to be better.

than like your sirloins but they're. still not going to be there will be a a. noticeable difference between like a. that and a a little over a year old. steer that got processed atce cuz I've. always felt that steaks are kind of. unnaturally tender anyway it's kind of. weird that when you see the difference. between like eating an elk steak and. eating like a beef steak it's like. you're used to like if you eat an elk. steak you're used to chewing through it. right that's what but meat is supposed. to be like like dense fibers.

and you you like the round steaks of an. elk and that would be similar to like a. a a ribey maybe of an old bull Bon cuz I. know there's a place in Vegas that uh. that we eat out all the time it's called. bizaar meats and one of the things that. they have on the menu is old cows like. he likes he likes the different flavor. that you get from an older cow and so. it's it's like they they have that as an.

option I've tried it it's really good I. was about to say I'm sure those guys as. good as they are like I just got like. this griddle I throw it on and you know. what I mean and and so I'll seear it. maybe sometimes if it's real thick I'll. throw it in the oven but they probably. got all kinds of tips and tricks that. they could make a 9-year-old bull taste. good well they do it slowly over. hardwood so what they do is they have a. fire and one of those Argentine grills. you know that cranks and lowers and. raises it a Grill Works Grill and so. they'll have it up on high and it's.

getting just barely touched by the. flames and a lot of smoke and they'll. slowly bring it up to temperature then. and then they drop it down and sear it. at the end and. it's it sounds amazing it's pretty. amazing when I'm at my house I like to. cook them all the same way that way I. can kind of Judge them the same way you. know what I mean like this is my process. this is how I cooked it if it you know. what I mean then I'll know but if I got. to do all that extra stuff. and it's three meals a day so like. sometimes I'm just trying to have lunch.

you know and I just need to yeah need to. do it quick eat and go yeah I get it I. get it yeah it's. um so when you started and you were 10. years. old what was the when was the first time. you got [ __ ] up I went to I was at. Charlie Thompson's he's in Leck and my. dad was like my dad used to work for. Charlie he started he's this old stock. contractor and uh he was like Charlie I. need something for him that I don't know.

just jump kick and he put me on this big. bastard and I was maybe I was I don't. think I was 13 I was maybe 12 and for me. he was big but so like before that like. 8 n 10 like I'm riding steers and stuff. like that so then like but my first bull. was it was right around 12 and this. Joker came out big spotty Bull and they. come up in the front. end and everything in Bull Roden is. counterintuitive so like when they come. up you've got to go up with them and.

then but your your intuition is telling. you to get back away from their head. right and uh well I mean this big scary. Mo so like first thing I did is get back. well then when he drops if you're back. he's going to like whip you down oh and. it's called getting jerked down and it's. the only time that I got jerked down. because every time after that I jerked. the bull up is what. happened I'm just kidding but he jerked. me down smashed my face and it didn't. look like Rosses from that bearback ride.

but for a 12-year-old it was pretty bad. I I wasn't wearing a helmet so you went. face to head face to the top of his head. oh God which would it's like a brick I. was I would have been what's called hat. down and now these days like everybody. wears helmets you know like JB Mooney. good friend of mine and me and him are. two of the arguable goats you know and. uh anyhow JB he's one of the last ones. like he's maror man and he's he would go.

hat down and but like usually in a. lineup you'd see one or two guys doing. that everybody else is wearing a helmet. these days yeah it seems like a helmet. would be a good move yeah especially. like if I I make all my interns like new. guys if you're an established bull rider. and you show up at my house to get on a. few that's one thing but if you're new. you're wearing a helmet yeah every time. I mean it just seems like it could save. a lot of people no for sure yeah for. sure yeah but is there a thing still. like a Bravado about being a no helmet.

Rider there's just something to it damn. it's just it's got to be like a. motorcycle rider too right I don't know. there's just something cowboy about it. like I hate to say that because like. kids out there that might be listening. to this like I think you need to wear a. helmet but like when JB Mooney is. wearing like there's just something to. that like ride or die like this is this. is It's just damn I don't know me that's. what I'm saying there's something to it. yeah I I don't suggest it but like when.

he when he's got that maror and like I. don't even smoke and I don't think you. should smoke but when JB is smoking a. cigarette and he puts that he'll be in. AT&T. Stadium there. he he puts that cigarette down and. uh he's that's he's Cowboy that's a. cowboy show me a video of him. running there's uh yeah there's I mean. bushwhacker is OB is one of the greatest.

yeah that's in Houston there's old bo. sheath fighting BS does the audience. appreciate it more when someone's just. wearing that cowboy hat yes Kai Hamilton. on the shoots he goes hat down all the. time too that is so crazy watching that. thing kick and watching him stay on it. that is [ __ ] nuts yeah he's. uh there's a reason people there's. probably some goat emojis on that yeah. like I saw a couple of them yeah people. go a. yeah I mean that's it he just that so in.

the PBR you can. have there's a point during the bull. ride when you can pick your bull it's. called the draft and like they'll. they'll come certain times there he. is damn I want to run something in the. shoot right. now um this gets your blood going oh my. gosh yeah this is in Austin I mean. obviously look at him go that is crazy. there's Weston. he was there with me first how many. times do these guys get blown out knees.

ankles he he's had too many surgeries to. count died on operating. tables like both shoulders done he just. broke his neck the other day and uh that. might have been the end of it for him he. he he did announce that that he was done. but it took and one of my buddies Randy. was like man I'm sorry it had to be like. this you had to go out like this you. know breaking and he said man this is. what he was going to take what you say.

break his neck like what what's the. extent extent of the injury like get to. the hospital and they say Okay lay right. here and don't move till the surgeon. gets here because you could be paralyzed. if you make a move oh God if you make. the wrong move I've had two buddies this. summer go down like that another one is. a bron Rider Jacobs Crawley like they're. like do not move until a surgeon flies. in and does this surgery and that was. his back but it was JB's. neck scary that's scary [ __ ] and that.

that's like that's the worst of the. worst kind of situation you know what I. mean but I'm not suggesting people go. try this like get on the other end of. the Arena you know do Team Roping do. some calf roping like like I don't know. like I just can't I just have to be down. here it got in my blood and I can't get. it out and I'm I'm going in for a. surgery next week for what my shoulder. but I've had two back surgeries I've had.

like six surgeries like in the last five. or six years like it just I got to a. point I went several years with no. injuries and then all of a sudden it. kind of like in your youth you just like. you're just hitting the fence you're. hitting the ground you're getting. stepped on and then all of a sudden like. once they start I don't know but I'm. gonna get my shoulder redone is the. shoulders from falling it's it's. dislocated five times oh yeah three of.

them were in the last few months Jes. riding that was all from bucking. horses and is it are you getting the. shoulder dislocated from hanging on or. are you getting the shoulder dislocated. from getting bucked off no like the way. I landed like the first time it came out. like it was right before my back surgery. cuz I didn't realize I was hurt and I. kept bucking off weird on bucking horses. and when I hit the ground my elbow drove. and it it came out the front and so like. there's you kind of have a little bit of.

a socket that your shoulders in it's not. like your hip but right and so the bone. broke off the front and so now it's like. I was trying to turn a horse the other. day like I just reached down he was. running off with me and I reached down. to turn him and my shoulder came out and. so we just kept running off like it. it'll just get easier and easier at this. point so that's why I got to have. surgery what's the extent of the injury. what's going on in there ligament Tears. like that bone that holds it in oh so. it's broken off yes sir oh so it has to. be screwed back in place he'll take.

there's another bone above that they can. use and he'll graph it and he'll screw. it down to essentially remake that. socket oh God damn dude but it it's bad. but also like I'm FaceTiming JB while. he's in a neck brace you know like like. I'm not going to complain yeah you know. I went to go visit Jacobs and. he's and he's like so this is the video. of you breaking his neck yeah yeah I. haven't seen it it's not from super. close up but you can definitely see what. happens here it's not good so here he.

is oh Jes Christ oh he landed neck first. and then his like he ain't going to get. pulled out of there by a stretcher oh. God like he's walking out if his legs. work he's walking out but he's hurting. right there oh God they told him he. shouldn't have been able to walk out but. he didn't get jerked down there it was. just the way he landed on the back of. his neck like his vertebrae got like. Twisted in there it like broke it and. twisted it somehow so do they have to.

fuse his neck yes oh God like maybe a. couple of vertebres fed a couple of them. oh it's serious like I said try calf. roping oh but I guess once you do. that the thrill of it is probably very. difficult to recreate and anything else. in life yes sir when you were talking. about that a while ago with Fighters. like that's what I was envisioning like. what level of fight is there outside of. getting on a bull you know same thing. for maybe like Tim Kennedy when he got.

back from why didn't know you guys call. it bull fighting this is interesting. like what is the differ bull riding and. bull fighting I'm sorry I was talking. while that video was playing there were. there's guys around the bull ride MH. that are bull fighters and their role is. to when he gets bucked off they go in. and distract that bull right so I think. that was Nate jce was fighting bulls. there at that rodeo and he snuck in got. that Bull's attention so JB can get out. and so you're basically goating the bull. to attack you correct but you got on.

cleats and pads and you're you know guy. yeah that's Nate and uh oh look how he. fell and I think that's that's either. Nathan harp or Cody Webster around to. the right like he's already getting that. Bull's. attention so like and we're talking. about like the best of the best bull. fighters. so that JB's got no chance at getting. hooked a second time right God damn the. way he landed that is crazy yeah there's.

certain ways you get thrown into the. into the air that's like scary. that I I've the scariest moments are. like when you're flying through the air. and you can't you can't control how you. land right another scary moment is when. you get hung up there's a bad hang up on. my on my Instagram it was like two or. three videos. ago like when you get hung up by your. hand and it's bad but when you get hung. up by your foot it's and this kid almost.

dies like in my Arena at my house oh but. like cuz then you can't do anything when. you're on when you're hung up by your. foot by your hand you're standing up so. your head's not under the bull. uhhuh yeah that's uh Tyler Kips on a. what we call prison Mike good bull ride. now he's about to get off. and see his foot see his foot is hung. Jesus Christ so at first like that's how. you work a normal hang up when they're.

hung up by their hand that's my brother. right there the. Roy I don't know God that's not really. protocol and then my brother comes in. with a knife and look at him. dragging at that point he's out of. Harm's Way because his head is so far. away from that right but you can see his. foot oh Jesus. Christ oh man so right there like where. he could like if he went under that. bullet that's where we're talking about. if you got stepped on like he he could.

have just died and I'd been in that. situation so when I saw him in it like. he was like okay he's either going to. die. here or we got to get him out like one. of the two we either get him out or he. dies. right and anyway Tim Tim commented on it. but it's a and that kind of stuff it's. can happen really with any there's. accidents that can happen with horses or. bulls outside of Ru stock like you could.

just have a horse buck with you out in. the pasture and little things like that. they're more. rare but when you go to rough stock like. riding bucking bulls and bucking horses. you kind of ask for. that. but it's such a strange subculture that. most people aren't aware of it's a niche. yeah but it's a very passionate Niche. yes sir the people that are involved in. it man it is everything to them I think. a lot of people their eyes got open to.

it a little bit from Yellowstone from. that Series yeah titler Sheridan he's. amazing he's the man he's the man yeah. he's a cool dude he is you know he owns. that uh four sixes Ranch in Texas it's. 270,000 Acres I'm supposed to be there. right now oh really you going there. after this no um so there's I I I go. there in the spring and fall sometimes. there's like full-time guys that work. there and then when they wean in the. fall or when they brand in the spring.

they'll hire day. workers and they'll just come in for. like a week at a time two weeks and I I. would be classified as a day worker and. what do you do. there um so like right now they're. weaning so that that the the cow CF. phase that I explained earlier where. that calf is born and stays on the cow. well when he gets like 600 pounds. they'll wean him and so you got to. gather the whole pasture we'll put them. in the pins and we'll strip those calves.

off their mamas and send them to the. stalker phase so that's what they're. doing it takes like two. weeks so on top of doing all your. YouTube stuff and your podcast stuff. you're still out there doing like real. Ranch [ __ ] yes sir you love that uh. it's yeah I mean this was an easy thing. to say like hey Dusty Dusty manages. their Dixon Creek Branch and he's one of. my best friends but I was like Dusty I. gotta go up here and he was like yeah.

you gotta go up there but but yeah like. if I wasn't here I'd be there and I get. to film a little you know like Taylor he. doesn't mind me like little Snapchats. and little videos here and there CU he. also knows that I'm going to promote the. 4 sixes you know I'm not going to. disparage anybody and so. uh but yeah like that's I've seen. opportunities and my lawyers like dude. you got to get out of that small town. and come to College Station or Austin or. Dallas Fort Worth to grow your business.

and I just can't I'll be smaller and. stay where I'm at like it's just I I'm. not going to trade this lifestyle for. more. money you just love it that much mhm. what is it about it that just gets in. your blood like. that I mean it's I mean like you you you. felt being out you know elk hunting you. know Cowboys get that every day and then. when you get to do a job on the back of. a horse and you like you've got to.

there's so many things involved like. you've got to know that horse you got to. know the cows you got to know your guys. next to you and when you get done with a. full day's work like there's there's. just something super romantic about. being able to accomplish that task I. don't think anybody ever recreated it to. a point where people understood it. before Taylor did there something about. the way the Dutton family describes it. on that show it's like that me how many.

people moved to Montana because they saw. that [ __ ] show and it's real yeah. people feel that way about ranching they. feel that way about rodeo and it's just. and there's so much passion behind it. and here's the thing like The Cowboy Way. of Life Chris Leo had a song like you. just can't see him from the road like. it's not dying you just can't see us. from the road well I have a job now. because I got good at Snapchat and you.

know and I'm showing the world like. what's going on out here uhhuh and when. we did the Netflix show they were like. what should we call it and I was like. well I get 5060 100 messages a day from. people wan to be in my intern program to. just learn the they're sitting on a. couch in Maryland and they're like I. want to learn to be a cowboy and so. that's why we called the show how to be. a cowboy was because the world is. interested like I foresee rodeo and the. ranching industry growing like I'm I'm.

super optimistic about it like if. legislation and all that [ __ ] you. know can can fade away where people. think cows are the demise of you know. Society like then if if that can like. not get in our way then the future of. Agriculture and rodeoing is super bright. because America is interested the world. is interested yeah they are and they're. think people are interested in something. that they weren't totally aware of but. that looks like it has this very.

passionate following you know and that's. the thing about people who Ranch and and. and cowboys it's like they [ __ ] love. it they really love it and there's a lot. of people out there that they want to. know like why do they love it why does. someone we everyone wants to have. something that they love the way a lot. of people love ranching and they're like. why what is it what is it about. cowboying these guys seem So Satisfied. and filled like there's something very. appealing about that to the average.

person that doesn't really like what. they do and there's something rugged and. pure about it that just seems to appeal. to people well it's definitely more than. just a job you know like if you had a. it's a job and then that like I said. it's got that that that lifestyle. passion factor to it where like if. you're working on an assembly line you. know in a. warehouse when that bell rings at the. end of the day and you clock out like. sometimes like that's it and if it's.

5:00 you're you're out of there before. 5:1 like I was in I was in a factory the. other day and it's like it was Midday. and I was like what are these people. doing in their cars and they were like. well that's it's break time like they. leave the building by the time they get. to their car they only got like N9. minutes but they hated their job so much. they didn't even want to be in the. building so they went out to their car. for their break and just in the ranching. and Rodeo Community you have people. making arguably the same amount of money.

on the on on average you know like it's. not a high-paying you know lifestyle but. they're not leaving right at five like. they're passionate about it they're. roping the dummy or working with a horse. or you know heaven forbid solving. problems cows out on the highway kind of. stuff you know but it's it's something. that grabs a hold of you cowboy and will. grab a hold of you the same way that. like rodeo and grabs a hold of you and. I I. I I'm honored that like I have this.

program where three or four people a. year get to come into it and they get to. learn that and I've got a few guys like. my top my intern he's been with me the. longest his name's Donnie and. Donnie was working at a bar for his dad. in Missouri no horses nothing around him. and he came in and he learned to ride. Bronx and after four years like now he. makes money riding Bronx now I don't. want him to get hurt cuz I would feel a. little responsible but like he's hooked. on this lifestyle now and I don't know I.

I I I wish and I pray that everybody had. some sort of opportunity in their life. to grab a hold of something the way that. rodeo and cowboy and grabs a hold of. me well I think that's what's appealing. about it to people is that the the. people that are involved in it love it. so much and for someone who has no. experience in it doesn't make sense like. why do what is it about it so that's one. of the reasons why people get so. addicted to watching stuff like. yellowston like what other than the the. great writing and the drama and all that.

[ __ ] but there's something very. appealing about that you know I don't. want to say simple life it's not simple. it's just not modern civilization it's. not the [ __ ] that you have to deal. with in cities and traffic and bosses. and [ __ ] cubicles and it's a. different complicated but it's a. complicated that seems more pure and. that has people that feel deeply. satisfied about doing that job it's I. think yeah you hit the nail on the head.

like it's a unique thing like most of. the time people driving down the highway. they just expect animals to be out there. and then all of a sudden you look over. and somebody's on top of one of them. Gathering the other animals and it's. just like what is going on like if you. knew nothing about it if maybe an alien. showed up you know they're just like to. see it and they're just like what are. they doing you know and and so like to. the uneducated eye it's just so. intriguing and unique and then you get. into it and you realize that like. there's like a there's a code and.

there's a you know there's passion and. there's it's a lifestyle for people and. at the end of the day if we just break. even well it was a free vacation you. know and that's how people feel about. money and Rodeo and the only reason. Rodeo Cowboys care about money is. because that's how they keep score and. that's how it's like how much money did. you win okay now you get to go to the. NFR if they did like a point system we. would be so broke because then we'd care. about money even less cuz that's not why. we're doing it but.

thankfully anyway and that's how Cowboys. that are like Ranch Cowboys are the same. way like I saw a guy the other day he's. a day work cowboy and when you're a day. worker you bring your own horse you. bring your own trailer truck everything. you have your own insurance like you're. $199 you're not. W2 and so yeah you might make $150 in a. day but if you blow out a a new trailer. tire is 250 so like you got to work two. days for a tire well I saw one the other.

day and we were and he bought this new. bit and I know his financial situation. but as soon as he got an extra thousand. he bought this badass bit that he had. wanted. well that's all he that's his thing. that's all he cares about you know and. like he's not doing that for money. anyway so part of that might also just. be a little irresponsible with money. like you can be yeah you can be WI with. what you're giv but at the end of the. day also like for that particular person.

like why this is all he wants to do some. people money is just fun coupons once. you get past food food and shelter it's. fun coupons yes they're not thinking. 1099s 401ks yep 40-year plans they just. thinking let's go that's rodo Cowboys. yeah well there's something appealing. about that to people you know the the. people really. enjoy watching other people that love. what they do cuz I think that's what we.

all want we all want something that we. do that we love what we do we look. forward to it when someone sees. something that's so counterintuitive it. seems like such hard work so difficult. and time consuming and it's just. requires everything of you and it's not. like a thing you do for a couple hours. and then take a break like no you're. doing it all day long every [ __ ] day. yeah yeah I just started uh jiujitsu I'm. like 10 rolls in 10 sessions how's your. shoulder holding up to that it's it's.

pretty good the guy you met out there. Tai like he's my partner we take it. pretty easy like I don't know even what. half guard like this morning I rolled. with a big guy and he was like all right. getting half guard and I was like. okay yeah I mean once he put me there I. was like oh yeah yeah yeah but I'm. learning but like learning starting out. Jiu-Jitsu is very similar to be like if. you wanted to learn to rope something. like you just the your very first time. against like a for instance this guy was.

like Jujitsu Dan or something this big. 250 in like a minute he submitted me 15. times and he was just rolling through me. like folded me like a cheap chair and. that's what it would be like if we went. to the ranch and had like some sort of. like roping riding type competition you. be the opposite because he's got this. years of just everyday grind into his. craft where mine is and most of these. guys that are raised in the lifestyle is.

rodeoing and cowboying the Jiu-Jitsu. lifestyle is very similar because people. get really banged up and they can't stop. they can't stop training you know I had. a bad neck injury that just kept getting. worse cuz I wouldn't stop training I was. like it's all right I work around it. never worked around it and then my hands. were going numb and I was like. [ __ ] yep you know and then I had. finally had to get it worked on but it's. just it's a thing where people get so. addicted they get so addicted that time.

off is just so [ __ ] feel worthless yeah. you feel worthless also it's just like. there's something about the struggle of. Jiu-Jitsu that makes regular struggle. easier makes regular life easier it's. like a medicine it's like this literal. life or death struggle that you're. having on the mats which is about as. safe as a life for death struggle can be. because you're with training partners. and if someone does get your back and. they do sink in that choke you could. just tap. and then you're back to square one and. then you start again but that guy just. killed you that's what just happened he.

killed you he killed you yeah he killed. me 15 times yeah I mean that's really. what's going on and so if you you get. accustomed to that life or death. struggle on a daily basis where that is. your high water mark for difficulty it. makes everyday life way easier now when. that high water mark is removed. completely from from your life normal. [ __ ] Bill stuff like nonsense your. your neighbor's complaining your [ __ ]. dog did something that becomes more. tense and more difficult to handle yeah.

for you know obvious reasons like you. don't have the adversity that you need. to in order to have you know like a what. you have built up in your life as like a. healthy. existence you know I'll say. that I have my interest in in Jiu-Jitsu. has been. to I don't know I just get nervous about. a lot of people show up to like a booth. that where I'll be like doing autographs. or whatever and like I just get nervous.

like it would I told Cowboy all I have. is that I'm not in terrible shape and I. probably won't quit but other than that. anybody who's like done any training. could just walk through me so you're. worried about like someone coming up to. you that maybe just thinks like your. videos are serious and when you're. talking all that [ __ ] that you're 100. yes you're there you just arrived there. 100% And then they just grab grab my. hair and then just I'm done right and. that makes me nervous and so I guess.

like every little session there's this. black belt that comes over and teaches. us and he's so smart and I'll just at. the end of each little move and I'm like. okay but if they're trying to kill me. right here and he'll teach me like some. Street tactics you know because like. that's essentially what I'm and I don't. think I mean just like you like I'm sure. you know most people that come up to you. are just most are nice they're so nice. most the vast majority of people are. real nice it's one potential instance.

out of maybe 10 years one potential. crazy person yeah yeah and I just I. would like to be kind of ready for that. yeah whereas with Rodeo my drive to do. that was a little different yeah have. you done any. striking I did one session at Cowboys. camp with uh coach Ray his coach that. had been around for a while and uh like. one 30 40 minute and I could see that. being really. fun yeah my dad was a boxer so like we. had a punching bag in the barn growing. up but nothing like I like I said I.

wouldn't anybody with any training could. walk through me that's a good thing also. though for alleviating stress nothing. like hitting a bag hitting a bag is like. one of the best stress relievers ever. yeah you just W on that thing and after. three rounds of that you're like I feel. pretty [ __ ] good yeah you just feel. relaxed and just squeezes all the. caveman out of you right. just really release it yeah I'm supposed. to We were supposed to at this last kids.

camp but I'm supposed to fight cowboy Oh. no in what way just I don't know we were. going to do something like just kind of. get in the ring and he'll be nice to you. yeah that's what I think everybody says. he's going to kill you I'm like he's a. professional they'll touch up a little. bit but he's not going to kill you he'll. pop you a little bit he'll just touch. you up he won't hurt you yeah Cowboy's. not gonna hurt you when we were first. joking about it on social media like a. mutual friend of ours was like hey. you're you're not you're not like.

serious you don't think I was like what. are you talking about but apparently. random people just think they can beat. him up oh yeah I'm sure yeah Chuck lell. used to have that problem which is crazy. just some people are just out of their. [ __ ] minds they see someone who just. beats the [ __ ] out of people on TV. they're like I want to [ __ ] try that. dude why do they think that like. something in the cage doesn't transfer. over to real life they they think some. people are just really delusional and. they think somehow or another because of.

whatever delusional thinking and their. ego and maybe they're schizophrenic I. don't know what it is they just think. that they could beat up Francis Ando. like I guarantee you somebody somewhere. at some point in time has tested Tyson. Fury has gotten in his face which is. like it's crazy there's people out there. that are just out of their [ __ ] minds. and they're just not well you know I was. at uh Power slap like a week ago oh. Jesus and uh um I was sat there and.

visit him with Strickland for like 45. minutes and he was like yeah that guy. over there somebody he's like I think he. wants to fight an MMA guy and we just. got to talking about it and I just like. I don't know that. like like I feel like Strickland would. be really good in the street oh my God. yeah he's not scared of [ __ ] you know. he'd be awesome in the street Cowboy too. like cowboy apparently been in like. hundreds of street fights yeah there was.

a a famous incident where some dude on a. boat dock just wouldn't leave him alone. was [ __ ] with him the Cowboy's like. God damn it and the guy did something. the cowboy just head kicked him knocked. him unconscious for everybody is that. the one where Dana got had to get. involved yeah and yeah he said Dana. still gives him a hard time about it. every now and then well you know that. guy [ __ ] up and he found out yeah. exactly he [ __ ] walk around and found. out that you're picking on the wrong. dude so I I heard that like he'll when.

he was in the UFC I guess maybe he. learned his lesson there and like he. would literally people be trying to. fight him in the bar he's like bro I. will pay you $500 to just leave me. alone and then he retired and I was like. hey you still paying people not to fight. you and he was like nope Bring It On. he's like I will whoop your ass in the. Jiffy Lube I don't care because now he. doesn't have to worry about yeah he's. not worried about it anymore but he. still it it would be a problem everybody. knows who he is you know he'd get sued. for sure especially if there's no.

cameras that show the other guy started. it and the other guy's a fake story yeah. cu no one tells the truth about. altercations he's and he he I I was with. him in traffic the other day and this. guy like Road raged him and was like d. almost trying to drive us off the road. and I was like man if this guy only knew. that he but he just like calmed down. like I think he knows his hands are. weapons he's going to use them against. somebody also people have guns that too. that's the real problem with road rage.

some people aren't playing by the rules. just engaging with random people on the. street is so [ __ ] dangerous and. stupid you just never know and you also. never know where that guy is in his life. that guy might be suicidal he might be. ready to take you with him he might have. reached his end he might have everything. might have happened wrong for him that. day he might have caught his wife. [ __ ] his neighbor he might have went. bankrupt he might have you know that's. such a good perspective to oh you always. got to you never know what the [ __ ] that. guy just experienced before he got in. his car you know and that's why he's.

driving like a maniac he's freaking the. [ __ ] out you know and if you contribute. to that now you're his Focus yep yeah. that can happen I've like been like soul. searching with I guess like my pride and. trying to uh you know be more humble. rather than prideful and traffic is my. gauge that's where for me like that's. for guys like well I mean I used to get. pissed off at people you know but but. now like that's just kind of my gauge of.

where I might be at in the day like if. I'm able to just let stuff go and not. like compete with the next driver then I. feel like you know do you know why. people get Road rag do you know why it's. so common and it's not common with. people just walking around well I I. think Pride starts it and then from. there it's just like you feel like. you're impenetrable impenetrable yeah. you're in a car there's definitely a. little bit of that but there's also.

there's a heightened state of awareness. cuz you're driving cuz when you're. driving you have to make fast decisions. and you're moving fast so everything is. quick quick quick quick quick so someone. gets a funny [ __ ] you know it's. like you're already at 7 you know and so. when someone just gets in front of you. they bring you to 10: like that whereas. on in the walking around if someone got. in front of you you wouldn't care at all. yeah like if you're just walking. somewhere on the street and there's a. bunch of people walking and some guy. walks past you and walks in front of you. it means nothing it doesn't even bother.

you but when you're car like this this. [ __ ] guy because you might have to. make like this guy decides to chain Lane. like [ __ ] like this guy's an idiot he's. making me hit the brakes like now I got. a [ __ ] what are you doing douchebag. look at this [ __ ] and you're already. ramped up yeah and so people they go. they get so angry so quick and that's. why because you're at a heighten state. of awareness cuz you're driving and when. you're going 65 M hour you have to make. quick decisions and when people are. changing lanes and doing stupid [ __ ].

like you're at the whim of their shitty. decision- making yeah yeah I. guess so I guess I I agree with you I. think we're saying the same thing I. think I think it it probably amplifies I. think that's like a true test of. someone's character I guess yeah like if. you when you like I'm not saying like. anybody that gets mad is a piece of [ __ ]. because you got mad in traffic but I. guess for me personally when I look at. myself like it does the the the. heightened sense of awareness would like. amplify the fact that like my pride is.

what's controlling me that day right you. know and if I'm able to like walk. through the day humbly where I'm not at. competition with people well that means. you know then all of a sudden I'm like. oh okay I'll just hit the brakes let. them go and I'll probably get to my. destination at the same time yeah and. it's no big deal instead of like making. this gigantic problem for no reason like. pull over [ __ ] you man and then guy has. a tire on and you're [ __ ] swinging at. each other like what yeah over what like.

and people die all the time doing that. fighting each other for no [ __ ]. reason for zero reason not to save. people not to protect property not to no. no [ __ ] reason yeah just because they. got let their emotions take control of. them they didn't have control of their. mind and you know their humility and all. those things and the sad thing is. they'll probably realize that yeah once. they calm down like yeah they five days. later they look back like that was so. dumb so dumb yeah when you're in a good.

place and you think about the stupid. [ __ ] do you do when you get angry like. oh my God it's so embarrassing yeah it's. like who was that person how did I let. myself become that person where I was. [ __ ] screaming in my car for no. [ __ ] reason right where I could have. just let let him go let him go and then. breathe back to normal no problems no. problems yeah yeah that's a. um like I said that's a that's that's. where the true me comes out I think and. then I'll go back go back go home and.

work on it yeah well it's good man it's. always good to have something to work on. but how did you get involved in U making. these comedy. videos man so 10 years ago July was our. first video but three years prior to. that I'd been like prank calling. people and uh like I just I prank called. my dad I prank called like what did you. do with your dad oh man I was sitting he. texted me he was at I was at A&M at the.

time and he was at the ranch like 30. miles away where we anyways and he was. like hey call the house I want to see if. the phone works and I knew he didn't. have caller ID so I called him and he. answered the phone like it could be. anybody he didn't answer the phone like. it was me you know usually I can tell. his voice you know it was my dad and he. answered the phone like it could be. anybody and I was like hey. uh yeah oh yeah I got your radiator here. at the shop and you need to come get it. like it was real like impromptu like.

right and uh I just told him he needed. to come pick up his radiator and uh and. then I just started prank calling a lot. of people like it was fun he fell for it. and uh Hook Line Sinker and then I just. started prank on a lot of people and. then yeah in 2010 no I'm sorry that was. when the phone call was and then in. 2013 I uh we turned on the camera and. like just. started saying what I'd been saying on.

all these prank calls and we never. stopped filming and so like since 2013. like I mean I'm still rodeo and still. cowboy and still you know living my life. but then there was just YouTube got. introduced and you know so then it was. more about I don't know I got to be me. you know I I grew up Rodeo I grew up the. class clown my old man had me he was an. a teacher too and he had me in this.

organization called FFA where I did a. lot of public speaking and so like I. done public speaking I was a Class Clown. I was a Rodeo Cowboy and they all came. together in these. videos and so we started 10 years ago. and I bet I made videos for two or three. years before I even made any money I. didn't realize you know how to make. money on YouTube and then you know along. the way I started the apparel line Rodeo. time and that was kind of my one of the. things I always went to like his Rodeo. time old son and uh the Paraline did.

well and uh that's been kind of my main. source of. Revenue followed by YouTube and sponsors. and so it just it started out just for. fun for sure which is always the best. way to start something out sure cuz. you're not thinking about it as a career. like how do I get the most engagement. I'm just having fun we didn't make like. I said we didn't make money for a few. years like I just didn't really even. think about it yeah and that's similar. to this podcast when we started out I. never thought it was going to make money.

it just for fun. 257 episodes later yeah and a bunch of. other ones just like all the fight. companions MMA podcasts yeah it's I. think that's the best way to do. something you do something like because. you want to do it because it's fun right. and that's what's most engaging to. people too and it's interesting cuz now. you've got this Netflix show but. would Netflix have ever given you a show. if you didn't prove that you could do. something on your own absolutely not no.

and they would probably control it more. and [ __ ] with who you are more and. there'd be a lot of a lot of you know a. lot of other people trying to shape what. it is whereas now they go we got this. kind of finished thing we just need to. apply Dale brisbee to this we know who. Dale brisbee is and they did try that. did they yeah like it was they wanted me. to take my glasses off and they wanted. to like bring the story of my dad into. it and like how he shaped me as a cowboy.

and I just didn't feel like it fit you. know like I'll talk about it here on a. podcast but like if I'm making a video. like I'm a comedian you know like I. don't want to talk about anyways I just. didn't want to bring my dad into it. right and it was nothing against them. and they didn't have anything against me. it was a good conversation but I was. like these are kind of some bugaboos and. but I had already established like who I. was for 10 years and so. like I had the mob's approval like in. Gladiator you know he tells them to win.

over the mob like yourself like it's Joe. Rogan and then the audience like there's. no middleman anymore and like if if I. tried to do this 20 years ago like you. got to go through an agent and networks. and it's like do those gray hairs think. it's a good idea and it's like okay. maybe we'll try it and then you maybe. get to try a show and like so going. through that whole acting route well. with the internet I straight to the. source and the mob approved of me and so. that was the beautiful thing like nobody.

could have planned like my small story. you know much like they you couldn't. have planned yours big story but we went. straight to the source and they liked it. and so then Netflix was like okay cool. let's do something with this same thing. with Spotify yeah well that's the best. way to do it so do it cuz you love doing. it do it cuz it's fun and then along the. way get better at it and along the way. people start realizing it recognizing it. then they start crawling up and I want. to be in business with Dale brisbee yeah.

yeah yeah wait till they call you you. know yeah well that's the a unique thing. about our time with things like social. media with YouTube and and the like you. can create your own thing now like uh. Cameron Haynes has done you just create. your own thing and through that thing. you know you you you don't have anybody. telling you what to do so you do it the. way you think it should be done and you. learn how to do it better with each. episode if you care it's fun yeah Cam's.

he might even be more of a niche than I. am but like being like not only hunting. but specifically bow hunting. specifically elk yeah and but yeah. you're right I mean he's and then the. mob approved of him and he's R he's also. an undeniable person you know like you. see what he's done in terms of like. ultramarathon running and his his work. ethic and the fact that he did all that. [ __ ] while he had a full time job for. the most time for the last 5 years I was. trying to talk that dude and quitting. his job like every day I'd text him quit.

that [ __ ] job every day you don't you. don't need that job he was making more. money from his sponsors than he ever was. from his job right but you know he. identifies as a hardworking Blue Collar. guy and that's what he always was his. whole life and he felt like somehow or. another not having that job would maybe. even disconnect him yeah you know but. it's not it's the opposite he works even. harder now but now he does what he wants. and right he could actually sleep and he. has time to recover and he said. physically he feels better than he's. ever felt before because you know has.

real time to train and recover before he. was working eight hours every day and. then still running a [ __ ] marathon. every day when he was preparing for. [ __ ] Ultras that dude was running 13. miles in the morning and then another 13. at night wild [ __ ] and then shooting his. bow and then going to the gym and then. getting up in the morning going to work. again yeah that that's another level of. passion that like that's so yeah anybody. that can run 100 miles I think is you. know that's easy to say that they're.

just a unique individual yeah well he's. done 240 like that alone is incredible. but then the sacrifices he made to go do. that yeah you know like like what what. you said like all of his free time yeah. he's not going to sit in his car because. he hates his job he's going on his lunch. hour to run because he's passionate. about this additional thing yeah and uh. there's there's people like that. in Rodeo too you know I think that the. people that have that kind of work ethic. a little bit of talent and then they're.

passionate about a certain thing you. know that'll go all out and then that it. eventually they're the ones that are. successful provided they stay healthy. provide this to healthy yeah that's the. hard part right especially with Rodeo I. mean any one day could be the last time. you ever get it and you and the more you. get on the more you're reminded of that. like it crosses your mind. like like I I I got in on like the last.

I haven't been on in a couple months cuz. I'm having this surgery I was supposed. to have it a month ago but um like I. just got down on the in the shoot. and we weren't even filming and. um I just got like super I just started. cry like in the shoot like I'm like. emotional you know and I had to get out. and start over and you know it just it. looks like. you know he's bitching out or something. but really I just like let me just. because I'm just thinking about my dad. thinking about this this could be my.

last Bron cide like this could be it you. know and you just get overwhelmed and. then the smell of the arena and the. music's playing and your buddies are. there but just that fight like as soon. as the gate opens it's just so pure it's. so pure and like all the [ __ ] talking. like all that's out the window and it's. you and the horse cuz the horse he. didn't hear it you know it's just like. can you execute the fundamentals in the. midst of your emotions running a up and. essentially that's what it is like.

executing fundamentals in the middle of. the fight or do you let the fear. overcome you and you do what your. intuition says to do which unfortunately. is opposite of what you're supposed to. do like in Bron Riden you're supposed to. lift on your rain and stay back well. your intuition tells you to sit up and. Pull and I'm sure it's a lot of the same. things in fighting like your intuition. is telling you to do this and you know. that's the move they want you to do so. they can put you here and so once you. get control of your emotions and you. execute the fundamentals and that's what.

makes guys like JB so great you know. there's something that people experience. when they do something very difficult. that makes them want to keep doing it. that the rush of doing that of keeping. your emotions in check in this insanely. high pressure situation that becomes so. addictive to some. [Music]. people it say it's so hard for someone. like me to understand has never done it. but I kind of get it I kind of get the I. get the mindset for sure I don't I don't. think again I'm not suggesting you get.

on a bull but I don't think you're that. far away from just realizing I think I. think the fact that the bull is involved. is maybe what's so foreign to yourself. and a lot of people that haven't done it. but like once you get over the animal. part of it the unpredictability of an. animal you just like oh this is like a. thing it's like you know football or. fighting or you you know going overseas. like those guys. like I went I got to go on marcus'.

podcast and become good friends Marcus. the TR Marcus and since then love that. dude he's yeah he's he's a big fan of. you too he's an awesome guy yeah he's. been kind of like I don't want to say. like a dad to me but like I've like used. him as that hey what do we do in this. situation kind of deal you know yeah and. uh but like when them guys go around the. corner at a house you know is there. going to be a fight there and just that. thrill of like okay now there is a.

fight and I was talking to DJ Shipley. he's a Seal Team Six guy and uh he told. me we were on the back of the shoots and. he was like what I respect about Rodeo. is every time it's a fight and he said. when we go into a room to clear a room. 95% of the time the room is benign and. so I looked up what benign me. and but he said he and he was you know. obviously the stakes are different in.

bull riding and you know guys going. overseas and being in combat you know. the stakes are much different but he was. just respecting the fact that when you. do go around that corner you have to. execute the fundamentals in the midst of. like fear and whatnot same thing I'm. sure there's guys going into the ring in. the Octagon where it's just like they. don't feel like it that day or this. particular guy's got in their head well. they got to get that out of their head. and execute fundamentals yeah 100% And. that's just to them that's that thing.

that they can't stop that this this the. thrill of that very insane high pressure. situation and trying to keep your wits. about you and stay in control of your. emotions and just banking on your. training yeah and. executing so guys like. JB I was I almost was telling the story. a while ago like I just I love it and. it's one that everybody in our industry. knows but like one thing that sets him. apart like at some of those PBR events. once you get to like what would be like.

the Short Round you get to pick your. bull and so that's unique you know at. rodeos you never pick your bull it's. more you you get draw your bull well at. these pbrs there's instances where you. do a draft and you pick it and where. you're sitting going into that Short. Round determines when you. pick well there's this real famous bull. named. bushwhacker um like unridden somebody. wrote him whenever he was like a. 2-year-old I wish I remembered the name. now but like he had this one ride when.

he was real young but then once he. started like going to all the big bull. riding like nobody rode this bull. bushwhacker and JB picked him 13 times. like he always picked that bull some. guys would pick a bull they know they. could ride like I know I can be 90 88. points on this bull so I'm going to pick. him you know there's these other two. three I'm unsure about but I'm going to. pick this one I know I can ride and. hopefully win JB went to bushwhacker 13. times and he wrote him once wow like he.

kept picking him like the most dangerous. baddest bull in the world undeniably and. he just kept going back to him and that. was one of those cowboy factors that and. they played bad to the bone that they're. a good song and when that song comes on. The Crowd Goes freaking nuts and they. know JB's coming around the corner like. they don't play it for anybody else wow. and uh any anyways that mentality for. him to pick that bull 13 times and so. when you say he only rode it once you. mean he made it to 8 seconds once. correct 95 and a quarter points I think.

is this it bushwhacker this is. bushwhacker I'm not sure if this is the. neck on that [ __ ] oh god oh yeah. this is the one I recognize that hat. this is the one where he does. riding like hat no helmet hat down baby. slide and ride he does not waste time in. the shoot that bull oh my God he had a. different trip every. time and then. bam wow and The Crowd Goes Nuts look at.

that lady confetti flying look at that. lady yeah they love that man right there. like look at that lady cheer look at her. face look at her face it's like she was. riding riding him with her wow that's. amazing there was one of those 13 times. though he was at he picked him. and two seconds during the ride so like. he's on his back just like he is right. here and all the lights go out oh no all.

the lights shut out and. uh oh that's one of my videos just where. he tells the story yeah that's I don't. know if it's actually. on uh yeah that that one down there. another JB rides bull in the dark that's. another one of mine oh same thing I got. the algorithm picked fig out got it. keeps popping up but no um yeah and so. like two seconds in the lights go out.

and I was like what' you do and he was. like well I can't ride him in a lit up. ass Arena much less in the dark so. jumped off yeah God that would be. obviously the I mean I guess it would be. similar to riding him if you're blind. but riding something in the dark that. would be the most so is he the only guy. other than that person who wrote him. when he was two yep wow yeah and they. retired him a few years after that I. think that's crazy and nobody else tried. oh yeah guys would get on him all the. time just they just get flown yeah just. didn't I can't remember how many outs he. had.

had how unusual is that that a bull's. that. good in the PBR ridden in 43 outs wow in. the. PBR I mean like there's so many good. great Bulls like Bodacious is a famous. is probably arguably bodus and book. Bushwacker are the two most famous bulls. I would say and bodas he's more like the. 90s. and um he had some some rides but. um the the PBR these.

days is uh yeah I think that's tough. what a crazy thing to want to do the. bull does not want you on them and you. decide to get on them yep and ride him. for his oh Jesus I think that's tough. that's what freaks me out when you go. down and they're coming down with you. yeah that's tough he. sorry tough I should have recognized. your shirt how long did it take to heal. your. sternum that's a scary one to Break like.

the thing that's right over your heart. it kind of just did its own thing you. know just took a took take a break I. don't remember exactly how long it's. been a long time ago how long did it. take before it felt normal again the. breathing and everything like it was I. don't really remember it to be honest. like it wasn't like it didn't just like. crack open you know it was just like a. break like it was like a I mean it might. have even just been I don't know what it. it's considered like a fracture but like. but yeah it it it wasn't like it wasn't.

like a lifethreatening type sternum deal. but it was it was a sternum you know. that's what the doctor said but like it. wasn't like it was it from getting. stepped on Yeah by a horse or by a bull. bull. bull but the back surgeries were the. ones that were kind of which they. weren't near as serious as like JB's and. Jacobs what did you get done uh it was a. disomies okay so he had a bulging disc.

and they took some of the disc material. out yeah pushing against nerves but it. just it didn't work and they just kept. having to go back in and yeah it it it. wasn't like it's just it was enough to. take me out for two years mhm and it. it's not like I said it's not near as. serious as like what they did to Jacobs. and. JB but. it was something that just like took me. out of the game and then it's like now. it's this lingering injury uhuh one of.

half a dozen have you ever gotten stem. cells on them no they're doing a lot of. stem cells with people that with disc. isssues my friend Shane Dorian just went. down to Tijana and they uh they actually. put him under and they inject stem cells. directly into the discs so the discs. that are degenerated that have you know. experienced all the wear and tear they. go right into the disc and swell it up. and actually helps you grow new disc. tissue and some people have gotten some. pretty significant results from that.

what is it why is it I mean why you got. to go to Mexico like do we not have any. America's. [ __ ] uh I don't know why I mean you. could ask the people that run the FDA I. I assume there's a lot of factors at. play and probably some of them aren't. beneficial to us but they there's a very. big resistance to people being able to. just go and get stem cell treatment. although there's no doesn't seem to be. any downside I'm not seeing anybody. that's getting stem cells and dying from. the procedure it's not what's going on.

like you're you're healing it's helping. people heal and I know so many people. that have had significant results but. you've got to go to Mexico you got to go. to Panama you got to go to Colombia you. got to and these people that do that. they come back with amazing stories of. of healing but in the United States it's. much more difficult to get that kind of. treatment you just they they can't do. what they can do over there C boy was. suggesting that to me MH and but yeah it. seems like a miracle drug you know it.

seems like. like don't have surgery have stem cells. you know with my shoulder though like I. mean the freaking bone is missing like I. got you know yeah that seems like. something you have to have surgery on. stem cells can't put a bone back but um. but yeah there's like like the back. thing and some other random little. things he was just like dude you need to. but I don't know it just how old are you. now 36 yeah that's how when it starts. falling apart yeah yeah that's how when. it starts falling apart for Fighters. when I look at a Fighter's age and they.

hit like 36 37 I'm like oo the moment I. turned 30 is when I first had my first. back injury yeah well it was a little. before that it was actually here in. Austin at the in the which is in March. in the short go was that rid I was. getting on a. bron and he frapped me in the shoot so. he like he uh rared up real hard and it. and brought my legs down and kind of. crunched my body together and I didn't. really realize it at the time you know I.

made a good ride that night but then. like later at rodeos after that like I. just started falling off like my right. leg wouldn't I felt like I wasn't. stretching enough and it just got worse. and worse I'd get out of a pickup I. couldn't stand up straight for half an. hour and. uh I went to a. doctor anyways then I dislocated my. shoulder and finally I was like all. right I got to go you know to and I went. to Tandy Freeman sent me to Andrew. dosset who does a bunch for the Cowboys.

like worked on Troy amegan Tony Romo and. he's like yep we got to cut you open and. do this right here there's a lot of. opinions on whether or not a guy should. have surgery MH but I was like man this. guy's legit yeah I'm going to take his. opinion well you know surgeons like to. do surgery yeah and uh a lot of Surgeons. don't have experience with stem cell. treatments right what they know is oh. your disc is bulging we'll remove that. disc the part of the disc is bulging and. won't bulge anymore but you're also. you're cutting out the amount of.

cushioning you have in between your. spinal column and you only have so much. of that MH Daniel Cormier said when he. got his back done he was never the same. again he said I'd never get back surgery. again and now that he knows and most. people know that there's other. Alternatives specifically stem cells and. people have had great results I know a. lot of people that they were their pack. was [ __ ] they got stem cell treatments. and now they feel great yeah it can be. done yeah so the the. back so then it didn't work had another.

one and it did get better after the. second one it took the recovery took. like a year and then like it started to. feel better yeah wow yeah like it was it. took a year and like before I could like. get on a bucking horse again like I mean. yeah three or four months later I'm. doing all the normal life things but. before I get on a bucking horse it took. a year cuz it just didn't fit feel. strong it just felt well just yeah. exactly and then the risk of it reh. herting because of the time you you know.

which that part doesn't necessarily that. doesn't take a year but just for me it. took a year you ever do anything to. strengthen your back yeah I mean I got. like that uh deal you got out there the. um the Teeter thing yeah got I got one. of those I'll do and yeah they gave me a. lot of exercises which is like routine. for me like I do the routine stuff like. for a back injury same thing with my. shoulder so like that's why it's like I. don't do the normal Tim Kennedy stuff. all the time I've also got these like. workouts that revolve around injuries.

and Recovery that I'll do and. um but like when I went to cams I was. getting ready for cams and I didn't tell. him this but I was at about a month. before like I was running a lot you know. like trying because I didn't want to be. a [ __ ] up on this mountain you know and. uh my my leg pain started coming back. and then my hips started hurting and I. was like oh [ __ ] it come it's coming. back again and anyways I did the deal we. ran like 12 miles and uh like I said. threw up in the B rack but uh I went.

back to surgeon he was like well your. leg Pain's coming back because of your. back you know but it should go away if. you'll ease up on the running but your. hips he's like you. have severe early onset arthritis he's. like you got bone spurs all over your. hips you'll probably have to if you did. have hips replacement surgery it' be. early and he said it's just because of. your. lifestyle but so like now every time I. run it's like I got rocks in my hips. yeah don't do that anymore there's got.

to be other ways to get in condition. sorry cam yeah cam Joe said it that dude. doesn't have any problems which is. amazing stunned that he doesn't have. physical problems you know he's a real. freak it made me like I was just like up. on the mountain like my hips are just. like crunching I'm like how is this man. doing this like how is doing this like. cuz he's in his 50s like yeah he's my. age and and you know he's got some of. those pains he just doesn't you know.

like tape his feet like him and gogin. like yeah he's a different breed well I. think it's just what you get accustomed. to him and goggin they're just. accustomed to a level of pain and. discomfort that most people just would. not accept and they just accept it as a. part of everyday life yeah but with Cam. I don't think he has any like legitimate. injuries like his knees don't [ __ ] with. him his hips don't [ __ ] with him which. is crazy you think about the amount that. guy runs and works out and he's in his. 50s do you think that he's got like his.

body is conditioned like at obviously. his cardio for sure but I mean like his. actual joints they're like we're okay. with this kind of pounding because of. how much he does it yeah has to be yeah. they've done studies on people that run. a lot and that shows that the cage and. the meniscus and everything gets harder. it's your your body gets accustomed to. that what whatever you force it to do. your body adapts sometimes to the. detriment of the joint you know like. Goggins had to he was bone on bone for.

so long with his knees and running. thousands of miles bone on bone that his. bone was deforming and distorting. because it was like like the constant. irritation of grinding against the other. Bones the doctor looked at him and said. I can't believe you can walk with these. knees forget about run thousands of. miles so instead of getting a knee. replacement what he did was where the. bone like bulged out they cut that off. they sliced like a wedge out of his bone. chopped this piece off and brought it.

down so it's flat again yeah so now it's. just bone on bone and flat now instead. of bone on bone at a distorted angle. like [ __ ] man also he can start over and. go back to doing it yeah he just had. another one just sent me video of I. don't know what he had done now but he. had another surgery. yeah on his knees and you know he's. eventually G to have to get fake knees. eventually it's just going to get to the. point where they don't work anymore and.

then they'll put artificial knees but. the problem with artificial knees is I. don't know how long they would last with. the way he treats his body like he put. He would not stop pushing himself if he. had artificial knees right so like I. think those things are only good for. like 20 years yeah so what happen. happens in 20 years like they got to go. back in no kid and put another one in. there open and cut the top of your knee. off again cuz you know he's going to.

live till he's 105 yeah he probably will. yeah he probably be running he'll. probably die running die running up a. mountain and be very happy yeah yeah. he's an animal I mean there but you need. people like that in the world to show. you you need people like Tim Kennedy and. cam Haynes and those kind of people you. need people like that out there to set. the bar very high it it helps it helps. all of us even if you're not interested. in doing that kind of [ __ ] like I don't. work out as hard as they do but it sets.

the bar much higher in comparison to. what you would you would require of. yourself normally yeah you require more. because you know there's people like. that out there that are really getting. after it and then you realize you can do. more you could do more than you think. you could do for. sure I think yeah we've named all the. ones that do that for me physically Joo. ja another one I got to meet the other. day Theo vau he's that for me like in. comedy I love that dude yeah I met him. at the power slap deal oh okay yeah he's.

just like he's like that all the time. yeah he's like that all the time he's. he's hilarious he's such a fun dude and. such a good guy and you know he's like. that he's on all the time like he's on. when you're out of dinner he's he's on. when you're just hanging out he can't. turn it off no no no that's Theo and. he's it's such it's a unique kind of. Comedy too like his comedy is like. nobody does comedy like him it's so. different you you and and if anybody.

tried to imitate it they would know. exactly who they were yeah were. imitating at the time and it would be a. turnoff my favorite jokey goes my cousin. got bit by a gay. guy so we'll. see somehow what he what do that even. mean he gets away with whenever he's. like no no no no I'm not racist you know. I have some flare ups in traffic but. other than that like like how do you get. away with. that the stuff he gets away with is he's.

such a [ __ ] character he's such a. [ __ ] character yeah he he invited me. out to a show and I'm. uh I'm going to go he's another dude. that seems so happy that he got out of. la la was just not for him when he moved. to Nashville I was immediately like. that's that's a way better fit for you. and he's talking about coming out here. yeah do you think he will I hope so I. hope so he's got a home here one one. thing about uh comedians they need a. place where they meet up with other. comedians you know you don't want to. just be that dude on the road with only.

your opening act like that gets lonely. it gets weird you got like we're we're a. tribal group we have to be around our. people you know and you know when you're. hanging out like at the mothership in. the green room we're all talking [ __ ]. and laughing it's like that's our. comfort zone yeah you know that club is. like it's like a clubhouse like it's a. place where we we can go we're all. practicing our art form we're all. getting better at it we're all feeding. off of each other getting better at it. we're all helping each other with jokes. we're all talking shop in the green room.

and I got this bid I can't figure out. where to go with it we're trying to. break things down and we're coming up. with taglines for each other it's fun. man and we had that in La before the. pandemic with The Comedy Store and you. know and Theo when he was here he like. man this is what I missed the most I was. like well this is worth that man yeah. this is what we're trying to do here. we're trying to like when we set up with. that club was like to have a place where. all of us could go and and have that. support and have that place where you're.

like oh this is my home base and that's. why we wanted to call it the Mother Ship. cuz you you'll go from there and you. leave to go to other places you know you. leave but you come back to the. Mothership that's it's such a good. system yeah and maybe maybe he can bring. Bobby Lee to be his maybe Bobby Lee's. never moving here I talked to him on the. phone the other day he's like [ __ ] you. Joe I'm not coming to I'm not coming to. Austin you're tricking everybody into. coming to Austin [ __ ] Austin he's scared. he's going to have to live here if he. comes and visits oh I don't think it's.

that it's just being silly he just being. Bobby Lee but he you know he stays in. his neighborhood in LA and he's like. where I live is fine it's like it's like. I don't go to Skid Row yeah I I don't go. to the places that suck you know I just. stay stay where I'm at well that. camaraderie is like that's one of the. major things like with rodeo and I was. talking to my guys that work for me like. you'll miss the. thrill of you know depending on how you. feel about it if you are one of those. passionate individuals that loves. actually the fight uhuh you'll miss that.

the very next thing if not the more. important thing is the guys and being. behind the shoots and going down the. road like that camaraderie of going down. the road with you know that that that's. the other thing and it it keeps you. going a lot of times like when you feel. like you want to quit when you feel you. know especially when it's a. you do it for a living you know when. that's like you're rodeoing for your. income and so there's rodeos that you.

want to be at and then there's rodeos. like also like hey I need to make money. and so you're going but no matter even. those rodeos like they're still like. you're on the back of the shoots and. it's the epitome of Freedom like it's. the standing on the back of the shoots I. remember I think it was Clear Lake South. Dakota and I just had this aha moment. like standing on the back of the shoots. being a kid from Texas and going to. those. rodeos and. uh the national anthem was playing and.

it was just this is freedom and I don't. know that you have a more patriotic. Bunch than. I for me at least the most patriotic. individuals I've I've come across. barring you know as a group barring the. actual ones doing the fighting like. Rodeo Cowboys are very appreciative. because like we get to see that freedom. every weekend that's that's her job you. know when people do something that's. very difficult and controversial and. that becomes their passion they really. value freedom and when you when you're. doing something that other people maybe.

don't understand because they don't have. experience in it they don't know why you. why you why are you even doing that you. shouldn't even be able to do that like. they don't get it they're not a part of. the life and that's why it's important. to hear people like you talk about it. cuz someone who might have had an. opinion based on just a peripheral. understanding of what Rodeo writing like. this is stupid why are they into this. who cares about ranching and then you. hear you talk about it you're like hey. you know there's someone listening to it. right now they're like maybe there's. something in there that I don't.

understand because I just haven't. experienced it maybe it's parallel to. things that I enjoy in my life that. maybe other people wouldn't. understand well I think you know you. mentioned like the controversy I think a. lot of the controversy that's in and. around rodeo and ranching are because. people don't understand it and so they. just make assumptions and they're. uneducated like for instance that bull. bushwhacker like we could we can slow it. down and I can show you like I mean we. don't have to but the point is is like. nothing's wrapped around his balls right. you know what I mean like a flank rope.

It's a cotton rope about 6 feet long and. it's the equivalent of you tightening up. your belt that bull is doing that. because he wants to and it's in his. blood and that's what he wants to do. like he's not you're not going to make. that animal do anything there's a rope. around their balls and people think no. there's not one there's but for some. reason people think that that's what the. flank is and I mean in buck horses some. of them are Mayors so even if that that. is what we were doing what are you going. to do with a mayor right because but it. gives them something to kick at they're.

horses that are going to Buck and if. they don't want to Buck animal like. especially horses like when they feel. pain they're running off sometimes they. might run off just if they're scared or. something but like so if they were in. pain they wouldn't be bucking like they. would they would stop eventually you. would train them to stop if they were in. pain MH and they're just they don't. experience pain like that and you're on. their back and it's they just don't want. you on their back and the fun part is. riding them when they don't want you. riding them yeah yeah yeah but like you.

get around Bulls like you can walk back. there there's so many bulls that you. could walk up to and rub all over in the. back pins and then you run them in the. shoot and they know that game and when. you open the shoot they Buck like crazy. just because they want to and so like. yeah they don't they're trying to Buck. you off but if he doesn't want to Buck. he ain't going to you're not going to. make it do that like you can't train. them to Buck there's little things you. can do to improve their bucking but. you're not going to make an animal Buck. like I said I bought one at the sailb.

barn like I've probably bought 20 Bulls. at the sailb barn and this one that I. got is the only one that made it like it. most bulls that you see like they're not. going to be bucking bulls like it's a. unique same thing with. horses so it's just in their genes it's. in their genes it's in their genetics. and they want to do it kind of like how. some horses are better at you know. Hunter jumper stuff or you know racing. you know like my horse Boon can't run. out of sight in a day you know but he's.

a good Ranch horse so that's what I've. got him at and then I got this you know. bucking horse. um that we call Baptist who went to the. NFR and bucking and like that's what he. was made for and when you get a bull. like Bushwacker is it like very valuable. to breed that bull mhm I mean like God. are paying 5060 $100,000 for Bulls. $500,000 for Bulls the last thing you. want at a $100,000 bull the last thing. you want is for him to feel pain he's.

going to sleep in a little padded pin. and maybe an air conditioned Barn in the. summer a heated Barn in the wi like some. of these bulls have cushy lives and. again if they weren't doing that they'd. have been dead at a little over a year. right so I don't know I it's I think. people think of it the way they think of. bull fighting like in Mexico you know. like when you see the matadors and they. stab them and all that [ __ ] I think. people connect Rodeo to what they think.

of as the cruelest cruelest. aspects I think also they think. of these animals as having a same pain. tolerance as a human MH you know like. these these dudes ain't they're not. coming inside in a winter in a hail. storm yeah they're just going to sit out. in it and be fine like there it's a. completely different species yeah and. people look at it like oh man if that. happened to me that would hurt yeah of. course because we're humans you know and.

like I'm not trying to justify anything. all I'm saying is you're dealing with a. different species and like there's just. things that aren't painful to them like. for instance a flank like it's a cotton. rope like I should have brought one so. simple I've done a lot of tutorials on. my YouTube where I show like I'll put. one on I put one on Boon in a YouTube. video like my ranching he's like a. gentle horse like I put a flank on him. and turn him and we turned him out and. he just walks out he's like dude I'm not.

a bucking horse right and there's a lot. of misconceptions like that also in the. ranching world you know you you might. see somebody treating. animals like [ __ ] because in in some. exceptional video that goes viral in the. Deary or something where somebody yeah. but that's not the norm right people. don't feel like that like dude. when my dog died I cried you know like I. don't want to put if I have to put. something down I'm probably going to. call my brother like I don't like to do. that you know.

right. but that's that that's a misconception. that's why I say that like the animosity. is really just because people are. uneducated and at the base of it you. know some people do put animals and. unapologetically put animals on the same. level of humans well then we've got a. different belief system yeah and now. we're now we're we're going down a road. where we're probably not going to agree. on a lot of things right right because. as much as I love animals they're just. not more important than humans no not to.

me either they're very important to me. but it's a different thing I value. humans above everything else and that's. how animals feel about their species too. you know and all animals and that's. that's the rule of nature it's [ __ ]. tooth fanging claw we've just managed to. figure out cities and buildings and cars. and we've managed to Shield ourselves. from to the point where we don't think. we're part of the cycle of life but we. are we're just in a very distorted. version of it where you could just go by. the meat at the store so by hiring a.

supermarket Hitman somehow or another. you feel like you are immune to the the. pain and suffering and so they don't. those kind of people there's a lot of. people that eat meat that don't like. hunting and that to me is just very. strange like you are you're consuming. food then you have zero idea where that. food came from you don't have a goddamn. clue what kind of life that animal had. and you eat that you're fine but you. think there's something wrong with. someone going out and getting it.

themselves in the wild which to me is. crazy and it's it's also like it's just. ignorance it's and it's convenient. thinking convenient thinking that you're. you're in a morally Superior position. because you're not involved the actual. death itself and I don't think that's. true at. all and and those animals do not I mean. you've got some instances with certain. horses maybe certain dogs but it's an. exception to the rule but the rule of. thumb is animals do not.

reciprocate that love you. know Theo had that mortician on and it's. and he was talking about like it takes a. cat like 24 hours if you die in the. house that cat's eating you less and. then and most dogs all small dogs are. eating you like within 24 hours but the. guy said that something about labs labs. won't like it' take a lab a long time. before it Lab at you but like a little. dog as soon as they're hungry they're.

going to eat you really so like you got. all this love for this animal and like. you die and he's like all right I'm. eating you Kathy you know it which I'm. not trying to say that Kathy shouldn't. care for her dog right all I'm saying is. is like there's an order I think that. was the way God designed us and um and. I'm not saying that means that we have a. right to abuse animals at all no and. because I again those are exceptions to. the rule in my industry like people.

don't like other people that like do bad. things to animals like we need to be a. serial killer yeah someone that tortures. animals or hurts animals that's a sick. person [ __ ] it's complete [ __ ]. it's a sick. person I don't know it's not it's not. something that exists well those Pea. videos have like really poisoned a lot. of people's minds to but then there is. the reality of factory farming which is. you know in a lot of ways very cruel. yeah you know we've all seen those. trucks filled with pigs or trucks filled.

with chickens going down the road. they're all slammed in there together. and it just doesn't look good yeah and. that's that's real too but regular. ranching like what you're talking about. it's not the. problem I took I harvested that elk I. mean bills are right there and the. second Arrow he went we had lost an elk. that morning like we ended up finding. him but at the time I was like I don't. want this Rascal to leave you know so I. put a second arrow in him MH and the way.

the sun beamed through the trees it just. like highlighted him in the video and I. was going to post it in the next day or. two but and then that Arrow hits him and. a little bit of blood comes out and I. was talking to cam about it and he was. like man and he he went over like the. death thing like imagine that that. that Elk's death outside of like this. merciful Arrow you know and there are. parts of it that are brutal you know. that that like meaning.

like just like I I don't know manly and. wild and like it seems barbaric a little. bit but compare that to just that stun. gun when they're going down a a shoot. you know like it's not I mean like that. guy is probably a little more numb to it. than anybody right which I think hey I. need to eat so do what you got to do. yeah but that guy's just whacking them. all day long Bank bank bank bank yeah. but I don't know.

there's there's a certain level of. connection that you get with nature as a. cowboy you know and you do get faced. with death and you know like when you're. tending to animals like it just happens. you know I lost one of my dad's pickup. horses the other day he died he collick. and you know like you're faced with it. you know and we cut off part of his man. and pulled his shoes off and put him out. in the pasture you know where he got to. you know go back to dust but it's just.

it's part of life whether we like it or. not and like you said like you're not. escaping it by going to the grocery. store you just don't have to look at it. exactly and you're not also escaping the. horrors of monocrop Agriculture and what. that does to animals the idea of having. thousands of acres of corn and when they. harvest that corn all sorts of [ __ ] is. getting chopped up with that corn yeah. Al Whatever grain whe it's wheat Alfalfa. whatever when they're harvesting that. stuff there's a lot of animals dying. there's a lot of animals dying and then.

there's a lot of groundhogs that get. killed a lot of gophers get killed a lot. of things get murdered in order to make. sure that you have those vegetables that. you think are so ethical yeah you know. yeah. and yeah the farming side of it is. something I don't know them sod Busters. it's kind of like it's kind of like the. difference in rough and thies you know. like the segregation it's playful you. know like we absolutely need farming and. I got a lot of friends that are farmers. it's just not something I'm as familiar.

with that's another thing though that. gets in your blood those the people that. really enjoy I think there's certain. things that speak to human evolution and. hunting is one of those like you don't. know that you have this connection with. it until you do it and then it feels so. right it feels like this is what I'm. supposed to be doing to get meat like. this feels natural because humans did it. for thousands and thousands of years the. same with agriculture I'm sure the same. with cowboying there's probably. something in it that like speaks to a.

part of who you are and how we became a. civilized Agricultural Society that you. had to be good at this in order to. survive and so this is sort of baked. into the human. DNA yeah and there's certain parts of it. that are you know may be difficult to. digest but that doesn't mean they're. wrong when they're new to you and it's. your first time seeing it like it might. be it might be unique and different and. at first glance make you uncomfortable. but that doesn't mean that it's evil.

right you know that's the thing it's. like if if people are very limited in. their experiences but very confident in. their opinions yeah and sometimes that's. those two things don't go well together. right with unique things and things that. they don't really have knowledge of like. cowboying like like bow hunting like a. lot of things like they don't understand. like why would you want to do that you. know but if you did it you'd understand. the how much bow hunting have you done. that was my first bow hunt wow September.

first bow hunt for an for an elk that's. wild first time to kill anything with a. bow that's a wild thing to kill for your. first thing y that's that's the big one. that's the top of the food chain bow. hunting I was nervous in uh wne indicot. he was like man you need to get out. there and then brush and find some. rabbits and whatnot but like time got. away from me and mhm I just didn't but I. I practiced a lot a lot a lot a lot and. uh I was kind of we were kind of. glassing this one 6x6 and I was nervous.

where were you what part of the country. I was in Kremlin Colorado Place bare. Mountain um Outfitters this this. Brad propes he was a genius all week and. my inexperience kept me from getting. this big 6x6 like I should have drawn on. a couple of bulls but just didn't like. step out when I needed to right and he. was walking me through it so the last. day the last day the last hour of. sunlight we're watching this 6x6 and uh.

my heart was racing and then he kind of. trotted off my heart calmed down and. then out of nowhere this this uh 5x5. came up and so it caught me off guard. and I was able to is this it yeah this. is the second shot. and man Jamie you found exactly you see. the the the blood the Puff Smoke show me. that again show me that again Jamie back. it up to the. shot yeah this is the this is my second. one that one's at like 70 yards that's.

quartering away hard. too and then you see the the blood I I. mean obviously he was already dying I. was just nervous we were going to lose. him oh that was perfect shot I didn't. really realize he was dying yeah but. it's always good to get a second arrow. on him if you can always I was so jacked. but Brad was like he's going to come. right there and just perfect wow it was. uh it's a wild feeling it was intense it. was so crazy yeah it's very intense very.

hard to keep it together on the shot you. know and then when you're eating that. animal the satisfaction of it is just. amazing it's crazy how good it is it's. not gy no elk is delicious it's so good. it's not game me at all it's so good for. you too it's so filled with nutrients. and vitamins. you feel it when you eat it you're like. feel [ __ ] energized yeah cuz. sometimes I'd be eating too many steaks. you know like on Carnivore like I eat a.

lot of steaks CU I love beef yeah me too. it's really good to like go to some elk. every now and then where you know you're. not you know it's just it's so lean mhm. you got to get your fats in if you're. doing that you know I usually eat it. with bacon or uh a cook it in beef. Tallow too you know well probably. usually just the next meal I'll go back. to a steak Yeah well that's good too and. I'll get i'll get plenty of fat from my. RI eyes yeah though that's the best one. in terms of like just being able to get.

your protein and your fat a good marbled. ribeye is the best oh man I'm a ribeye. man yeah me too that's all I order and. when you get your body accustomed to. eating like that man it just feels so. normal it feels like it feels healthy. like I never feel like bloated or. stuffed or just like exhausted from food. lunch is so easy easy eat it feel great. I did it all through hunting camp I just. ate steak and eggs it's all I did I. cheated one time well so like I I do a.

little bit of fruit and then I'll do. like. mountaintops supplements like so like I. guess I kind of cheat a little but like. I don't do any breads or sugars but I'll. do like protein most important thing I. don't think there's anything wrong with. fruit I don't think fruit is our problem. I think the problem is processed foods. that's the number one problem what the. carnivore does is it's a Elimination. Diet so it takes out almost everything. that might be [ __ ] you up it takes. out all the sugar all the bread all the.

pasta all the processed food anything. that might have glyphosate on it. anything that might be you know. irritable to your your body and cause. inflammation and then you just feel. better and then once your body adapts to. eating just protein and fat then you're. running off of ketones you there's many. times times when you're doing a carn. carnivore diet that you're essentially. in ketosis and when I find myself in. that state my brain works better it's. just like I can think better I can form.

conversations better I'm just like I'm. less. foggy I feel like I have an extra gear. to communicate with I think it was like. a year ago I heard you say all that yeah. and you because you had said you know. you occasionally you might cheat on. Sushi Because You Love Sushi and you. gave that what you just said and then I. heard the deal about cholesterol and. like half of the people that die of. heart attack didn't have high. cholesterol and I was like all right I'm. doing that yeah and I started in.

Christmas and then I've been good all. year and then on Fourth of July I go to. uh I think you you might follow I saw. you follow one uh Hannah Baron yeah she. does the noodling yeah that's crazy. every year I go and Jeff her dad. convinced me to eat ice cream and I. didn't po right for a a week so it had. been seven months no sugar no [ __ ]. and I ate that ice cream and for a week. I kept texting Jeff I was like this is.

your. fault but no that's a it is that is a. crazy watching that 110b girl pull out. 75b catfish with her hand yeah that that. noodling thing is nuts because what if. you get a snap of turtle well they say. that number one I don't do it without. Jeff over my shoulder this big b steps. keep me safe but they they say that like. snapping turtles and snakes aren't going. to be where there's not oxygen oh so if. the whole is completely underwater then.

it's like 99.9% that you're okay so how. do you find a catfish like the water's. Brown so what are you doing you're just. sort of feeling around so we I've been. in Texas and you kind of just got to. like either know where the holes are. like a rock or you just go down the. banks we just go down the bank and reach. in and you'll find three and four. Pounders they don't let you put boxes. out in Texas but like where we go over. there um in Alabama and around there.

they uh they'll it'll be like they'll. put a box out what does that mean so. like a little smaller than this much of. the table there'll be a maybe about. where your coffee cup is and they'll put. a hole in it on the on the corner oh to. set it up so that the catfish go in. there so the feem I think what the way. it normally works is the female come in. lay some eggs and then the male will. come in and protect the eggs and there's. only a certain time frame that you do it.

and you go in and you put your arm in. and you wave it around like this you. like you'll get shoulder deep in that. and uh immediately they can they sense. you they know you're in there the. catfish does and they'll go to bite them. like a a blue the blues are like super. aggressive and like you can tell the. difference a flathead will kind of bite. so that's a. box yeah those are some different boxes. that guys guys will put out and then you.

just reach your arm in there and grab. the catfish and then bite your arm and. then what you do grab bite your arm and. then you'll move to like putting your um. Hannah should. have yeah so that's Jeff on the left. that's Jordan she works for me that's. not Hannah Jordan she RS bulls and so. right there there's a hole and they're. reaching in trying to grab a ho of this. catfish so what are you feeling around. for so you put in there and then you. kind of you you just feel that fish and. eight times out of 10 they'll bite your.

arm I don't know if she gets one caught. right here oh it. is whoa and you're reaching in there you. grab their bottom jaw with your hand and. then you run your left hand into under. the Gill plate so you don't mess up. their gills and you pull them up and you. letting these things go or you eating. them yeah most of the time like cuz you. can catch like one day we caught 20 so. like we'll let them go most of the time. like you might catch one or two and eat.

them like that night we I think we kept. two and we ate and you keep the males. because the females are obviously going. to um the yellow cats eat so good so. good and um like how do you cook them. cut them up into chunks roll them in. flour and then uh dip them put them in. oil deep fry them well first you soak. them uh Jeff does this he'll soak them. in red hot for a little bit in a baggie.

like the chunks of them and then roll. them in just flour and then put them in. uh put them in oil and pull them out. then put uh little bit of garlic salt on. them it's the best. fish I don't know that that that's. my that and elk hunting like those two. trips rival each other really noodling. is as fun as elone they're just so. different they're so unique it's like. but you just got to experience it it's. such a rush and then you grab it and and.

when you come out with that with those. big. fish so this is how you cook it yeah. that looks like Hannah. probably um yeah they'll cut them up. like that. and and then once you get him in the. chunks then he does the red hot he'll. put the red hot in that bowl pour in a. baggie um take that little skin off. that's on there what's it similar. to I've had catfish fried before I've. had fried catfish like fillets yeah it's.

I mean it's it's like a really tender. and better tasting like chicken really. like that's the only thing I can think. that would be the closest thing to it. but yeah you can't leave it in the oil. too long and you want to as soon as you. cut it up you need to be cooking it. pretty quick that can that it can spoil. real real fast and the big ones taste. good too mhm is there a difference. between the big ones and the little ones. how they taste uh I think there's a now.

that I'm thinking about it there's. probably a way to like bleed them after. you you know when you're cutting them up. at the end like where you let that blood. out of me they usually say that you're. supposed to bleed them like right when. you first catch. them we don't do that could you keep. them alive for a while no I mean like it. might be like two or three hours before. we you know start cutting them up but. you don't yeah we don't we don't bleed. them right away no so what do you do. when you catch them do you put them on. the shore do you put them in the boat we. just throw them in the boat the boat.

yeah yeah we'll put him in the boat. and they can survive just breathing air. for a long [ __ ] time can't they I. think I mean it looks like it when their. jaws are kind of clapping you know. that's the unique thing about catfish. and like some carp too right they could. just come up and get some actual. air yeah Jeff and Hannah would know. better than me yeah I don't know they're. the extent of my like I I I let like I. said I've gone a few times in Texas I. get a little nervous about it but um.

it's such a rush grabbing them and. pulling them out of those those holes. man I don't know something about it you. should try it one day okay I I think you. might really enjoy it I bet I probably. would I don't I don't think you'll enjoy. it more than El hunting that was maybe a. little bit strong of a statement to make. I don't think that's possible but it. it's it's a it's just a different thing. yeah and it is so fun but well I love. regular fishing yeah yeah once you once. you start catching them with your hands.

it's kind of like bow hunting compared. to like sitting in a deer blind you know. like uhhuh it's not that you throw rocks. at it but man once you kill something. with a bow that's how you want to do it. that's how I feel about I'm sure bass. fishing you know would still be fun to. me I haven't gone since I've gone. noodling but pulling them out by your. hands is just like it's like the man. stuff tell that to. Hannah dude no kidding like that girl. girl you throw her out in the wilderness. and she will survive yeah plus she's.

also gorgeous so yeah there's not a lot. of chicks like that out there no but. when they are boy they they could really. do some damage on social media you would. expect a girl that's that good at. pulling catfish out of a hole that you. know they'd have a dip in and maybe you. know look a little different than Hannah. but yeah for sure yeah yeah it's uh. that's another weird sub subculture. Southern subculture of noodlers that. people would look down on like what are. you doing yeah I can't remember like it.

like she'll she'll like go out that and. then go hunt squirrels like she does all. of it like Jeff and like their country. they're gonna be all right their country. Country Boy Can Survive that's Hank. Williams Jr song that's it yeah I'll be. all right so long as I got access to. some C horses you know yeah well it. sounds like you do a little bow hunting. too now yep I'm in yeah I'm hooked now. on that oh yeah that's one thing that. when September rolls around there's also.

something that's so unique about elk. hunting because you know you're you're. sneaking up on them hopefully they don't. even know you're there you're you're. experiencing the the screams the Bugles. and the ruting the fights and they smash. into each other it's like you feel so. fortunate to be just witness to that. stuff and the the small window like you. said September really like even just a. few weeks depending on where you're at. that you have to like go after them you. know and I guess that's one of the.

things about elk hunting like it I have. nothing against you know the Longbow the. rifle but and and I've harvested a lot. of animals that way but like being able. to like I mean cam was like one yard. away from that one that he shot I know. that was very unusual that was he was in. the middle of the trail and the elk had. no idea he was there until it was like. literally I think it was 2 yards away. from him so it's six it was from me to. you when he releases the. arrow was just bananas bananas you don't.

even use your sights well he used his 50. yard pin because even though something's. very close the what happens is when you. are very close to someone even though. it's very close to a Target even though. it's counterintuitive you want to use. the the more distant pin because it. takes a while for your arrow to rise up. and hit it Apex so when it comes. straight out of the bow if you try to. use like a 20 yard pin you'll be hitting. it very low really yeah you want to use. a 50 yard pin dang at like two yards I.

know it sounds counterintuitive yeah but. it's just understanding The Arc of the. Arrow when it leaves the bow so when. when your arrow leaves a bow it goes up. and drops in and so you have to have. that sight up in order for it to go. straight at six yards because it hasn't. started to climb yet. that makes a lot of sense I would have. not known that in the moment it's very. counterintuitive you would think oh my. God I can't even have the 20 yard pin I. got to L roll it back even further but. you don't and you have to roll it up.

higher yeah seems I've never done it. before I've never taken a frontal shot. like that either which is also you have. to really understand what you I mean he. did it perfect you see the arrow it went. right through the animal's heart he has. a photo on his Instagram of the animal's. heart with the arrow proing out of it it. was the perfect shot but that's a deep. understanding of not just what pin to. use but of anatomy when to pull the the. trigger like like what to do you have to. be very very experienced to do what he. did there even though it seems like oh.

that was so easy you shot it at two. yards I probably wouldn't have shot it I. I wouldn't have been confident enough. and I might not have I mean if I don't. have a pin that's set at 50 at that. moment what would I do like that's. that's the arrow poking out of the heart. I mean that is an absolutely perfect. shot you can't get any better than that. perect that that animal died in 30 yard. which probably took 3 seconds for it to. hit 30 yard 30 yard yeah yeah and it was. down 3 seconds yeah that's insane yeah.

it's a quick death it's a quick and. merciful death and again it's that. animal is not getting that death. anywhere I mean that was in the. mountains of Utah they're surrounded by. mountain lions we saw some big one I saw. a big one there two years ago woo it was. big a lot of bears out there they're. starting to see wolves you know there's. real animals there and every few days. there those mountain lions bears and. wolves are going to take down an elk. every few days every few days they wreck. havoc on the calves especially the Bears. like when it's the the elk or cing the.

Bears come out looking for it they smell. it that's that's what they. want well Cam's goal was to make more. bow hunters and Elk specifically and he. definitely did it with me yeah he did it. with me too that's right yeah I mean. he's the reason why I bow hunt got me. into it he taught me how to shoot and. then John Dudley gave me lessons and. those guys have taken me out deer. hunting elting it's uh it's it's a.

totally different life you start doing. that and then I look it's like my best. escape from the grind of what I do yeah. there's nothing like it because when. you're out there you're not thinking of. anything else you can't when you're. making a stock on an elk and you're. playing the wind and you got your boots. off because you're you have to tread. over leaves quietly like when you're. doing you're not thinking of anything. else it cleans your mind of all your. stress all your things the only stress. you have is of doing what you've trained.

to do in that moment that very intense. moment that's exactly what it was now. that you mentioned it like the only. especially having messed up early in the. hunt and not stepped out and got this. 6x6 I should have so then I'm just. trying to you know play catchup I mean. that was the only thing I was worried. about and when you're at full draw and. you're about to execute a shot the whole. world disappears the whole world goes. away there's nothing happening other. than those pins on the vitals yeah. staying steady executing your shot. perfectly making sure there's no.

movement everything's just fluid and. perfect and then watching that Arrow fly. and hearing that wh it's like there's. nothing like it in the world how many. have you. harvested it's a good question dang well. that's enough there's like 15 now I. think really yeah dang yeah I saw them. four or five out there yeah I got a. whole archery range pack with all the. other Bulls in it dang yeah yeah you can.

tell me and my my well Dusty person the. guy that manages that Branch at the. sixes is who went with me and. uh that first the 5x5 my first shot. before that one he like comes up and the. same thing I would have done Dusty like. tries to stop him with like a white tail. grunt m in the video like you know like. you can kind of I don't know it was just. funny like you can just tell that you. know we're kind of inexperienced in the. elk game but yeah yeah I mean it was our. first one so well Whit tail grunt will.

stop them any noise will stop them it. did that day yeah yeah you need. something right I did right then that's. a whole different kind of hunting that. white tail hunting that that is a mind. game you know John Dudley and uh jao are. right now they're uh in Iowa and. freezing their passes off in a tree. stand that's a totally different game we. just climb up in the tree and you wait. all day you wait all day and you wait. many days in a row for this one moment.

where the deer is close enough yeah a. deer walks by you you just have to just. hope that the wind is right and hope. that you play it right and hope that. they don't see movement and that's a. crazy game because I don't have the. patience for it I've done it before I'll. do it again it's still fun but it's it's. a different mental game I much prefer. stalking the the physical difficulty of. getting up the mountains getting close. to them the the fact that you need to be. in shape to do all that because there's. got to be times so you got to get to. that mountain quick you see them coming.

around a ridge you got to beat them over. the side if you don't get there in time. you're you're going to miss that. opportunity and so you have to be fit. and with the white tail Woods it's. totally different you're just sitting. there just sitting there the whole thing. is just playing that mind game and not. going crazy sitting in a tree stand for. 10 hours crazy that you say that I guess. that's putting words to like I got back. from that El hunt and and somebody's. like well you going to go white tail. hunting now and I just I didn't have a. drive to go do it like I was more.

excited about elk hunting next year yeah. but it it kind of took away some of the. drive of like which I don't I don't wh. tell hunt a lot a lot anyway but um yeah. I just didn't get as I'll be excited. about stalking maybe some pigs which we. have plenty of in Texas like I might go. do that cuz it's so similar but the. stock of the elun is so much of it yeah. that's the way people have always done. it I think that's why it's and it's also. the most difficult way because you.

really got to move slow you really got. to keep it together and then there's the. decision like it turns broadside Now's. the Time draw and then and then it's. like oh my God it's happening and then. you got to keep your [ __ ] together while. it's. happening that's it that's exactly it. it's so hard it's so hard but man that. food that you get out of that is so. delicious it's so nutritious it's so. worth it and there's so much of it yeah. yeah I there are times there are certain. Cuts it's hard to compare to beef. because they got to put beef in it m you.

know like the ham you know if you get. the hamburger the saage you know they're. add they're adding fat yeah they're. adding beef fat yeah or pork fat. depending on they're just so different. it's hard they look the same you throw. them on a plate they're so they're very. similar but they're just so different. yeah no it's it's an awesome way to get. food and again it's a an amazing. discipline because it's the there's so. many layers to it you know I've been bow. hunting now for almost 10 years and it. just keeps getting I keep learning. you're always learning like I'm if I was.

like if there's a belt system you know. I'm probably like a purple belt in Bow. Hunting you know which is you know I'm a. white belt still a shitload to learn you. know I know how to do it now I could. pull it off like if I I don't have. someone telling me what to do I know. what to do I can I know to check the. wind I know to move when he's not. looking I know where I'm going to be. safe and where I'm not going to be safe. where where I'm going to have a a. shooting Lane where I won't don't take a.

shot that that's not this one won't work. this one he's quartering too you don't. have a shot you got to know when to. shoot when not to shoot and all that. stuff takes a long time to learn and. then you have to be confident in your. shooting so you have to put thousands of. arrows down range so you know like 50. yards to me is a Chip Shot I 50 yard. shot at a B I'm like oh yeah that's dead. 100% whereas like when I first started. like 50 yards a half a [ __ ] football. field holy [ __ ] that's so far yeah but.

you know practice at50 looks pretty easy. yeah yeah they. uh that's where I mean it took me. probably four months you know before I. felt comfortable with anything past 40. anything yeah and then the second shot. like I said was like 70 and I didn't. have really time to think about it I. didn't even have a pin for it I kind of. had to stack a pin on top of you know. and uh had a pin Gap yeah yeah but it.

was. uh the hours that it took to go into it. like I mean any I feel like an hour less. and I wouldn't have been able to harvest. that elk do you have a coach like an. archery coach that someone shows you. proper Wayne indicot oh perfect I just. well I mean I send him videos like once. month I would you know like hey is my. form look right you know like perfect. like I just I'd have nobody right you. know cam like I'm sure cam would help me. you know some he's just so busy yeah you.

know and and Wayne is too but Wayne. enjoys teaching people too right he's an. excellent coach yeah yeah I mean he he. actually coaches people you know he's. brought people to competitions and such. yeah yeah no he's awesome and that bow. is a a great great [ __ ] place too. it's like to have a place like we have a. place like that in Texas Archery Country. Street which is just like that it's. amazing place it's it's like having a. bow shop is so important having people. that really know how to tune a bow. correctly so you really have confidence. in your equipment you know you could you.

could go to them and say this something. seems off there's something I'm hitting. low you know something's going on oh the. strings are stretching let's [ __ ]. recalibrate this and it's so important. to have someone who really knows what to. do and the BX is great resource for that. as is Archery Country yeah I've heard. you talk about them there is one place. in Weatherford I can't remember what. it's called like I I like overdrew like. I kind of I was trying to really extend. and pull back at the same time and the. the uh the limbs crunched down and.

stayed down they didn't explode and then. my string was all and I sent a picture. to Wayne and he was like send that to me. now but there was a bow shop in. Weatherford and I just went down and. they were. like please set that down on the table. and I was like I don't know here it is. but apparently it was like ready to. explode which blows my mind but I I. think maybe it's from the heat I left it. in the backseat of my pickup only for. like two or three hours but it got. pretty hot the summer and I think the.

heat mixed with wind but they were. everybody was like no it shouldn't do. that but they got it fixed and I killed. an elk with it so it was fine I wonder. what was wrong I don't know I'll show. you a picture at some point I yeah show. me the picture I'm curious as to what. the hell was going on with that thing. look at the size of that [ __ ] belt. buckle son yeah that's why look at that. champion this. year I run into somebody like oh good. for. you don't get the joke yeah that's it's.

such a joke too because that's the most. Preposterous sized belt buckle of all. time no one ever wear a belt buckle that. big that's not a real belt buckle yeah. like this is a real belt buckle right. yeah that's a normal belt buckle exactly. yeah that thing's outrageous oh man. but that is a big thing about Rodeo. guys okay let me see what's going on. here oh yeah oh it's stuck like that.

that's crazy a't that wild like I just. drew back and well your string just blew. out but they didn't even went off the. cable they didn't replace the string. what like they were like yeah the. String's fine and they put it back and. then I kept shooting for two more months. and shot an so what made it uh it came. if you look at the top it's off the cams. the strings are off the cams I wonder. how that happened well when it whenever. it folded like that the string was just. so loose yeah well the string is off if.

you look at the top cam the string is. not on the cam anymore that's why it's. so loose oh gotcha see how it's not. connected anymore that round thing is. the cam yes this the cam that's the. mechanical advantage as you're pulling. back the these like powerful limbs it. rolls over these cams and your string. was off the cam so as it rolled over. your string doesn't have any resistance. at the top so it's just like it's got an. extra like half a foot foot to to pull. back and then it's just loose so it's. not connected anymore yeah yeah not good.

just doesn't make sense that it rolled. over like that I don't know it must have. fallen off something must have pushed it. somehow or another and then it was as. you drew back instead of rolling through. that groove it went off the side and. then you had nothing no resistance at. all yeah yeah cuz that's just flopping. around. doesn't look like it would explode but. it definitely doesn't look good yeah it. would exp would when they explode is. when the limbs break that that can. happen but it's super super rare.

especially if you get a modern bow like. a Hoy like they they dry fire those like. hundreds of times to make sure that. those limbs are [ __ ] bulletproof. right by the time you get a ho bow that. [ __ ] sorted out right you know. they they got all so that is a cam issue. something happened with that cam where. the string either the cam got loose or. moved or the string got pushed off the. side I never seen that before yeah it. made me feel like an elementary school.

kid like I was just like i' done this. thing and I was like son of a gun and I. had no idea like I don't know any of the. terminology that you had been saying. like cam handed me the bow in February. and I shot at a bunch and then I message. uh Wayne every now and then and then I. would post a video and nine nine people. would be like give me criticisms and I'd. be like course shut the hell up but then. I would kind of do it you know I be like. okay but I'm going to remember. that and so I just slowly and then stuff.

like that would happen and I just. thought like okay if that if my target. is at 40 yards I can hit it so if I can. control my emotions like I know how to. hit that at 40 50 60 yards if I can. control my emotions in the moment which. hopefully Rodeo helped me do yeah I'm. sure it did then maybe that I I'll be. successful and so I was super confident. in the back of my head just with my. ability to do it like I was also not.

naive about my inexperience but if I. could get drawn on one with a good. Target I felt confident I could maybe. kill him well I guarantee you that the. nerves that someone must face when. you're about to ride a bull or a bucking. bronco is probably as Extreme as. anything you'll ever face in anything. mhm so that would without a doubt help. you with bow hunting I was more nervous. to come on here than I mean like I I. could I could I dang sure be more. nervous like to do standup but this is.

easy look how easy it's been for sure. it's been fun I guess there's just that. not that my what I have to say is going. to change anybody but just like having. listened to. like I mean there's some of your. podcasts that just like me personally. have changed my life you know changed my. life too you know me part is it right. yeah yeah yon me Park yeah I Pro I still. think about her every day what her you. know want to talk about adversity man. that lady's life that is an insane story.

escaping North Korea at 13 years old I. mean horrific stories crazy yeah people. like that have no patience for [ __ ]. you know like I don't want to hear your. victim nonsense like you know what I. went through [ __ ] she went through. everything why you why are you fat just. stop eating yeah so simple it's so. simple like just stop eating why are you. fat people that have come from really. hard places they have no patience for. nonsense they just they just and they. see it coming and like oh my God like.

you guys don't even know what you're. bringing on to the world with all this. crazy communism talk you don't even know. what you're asking for what you're. asking for is the the horrors of human. civilization in its worst. forms yeah it's totalitarian. dictatorships that dictate exactly what. you could do exactly what you could say. exactly what you could eat what you how. you work what you say how you behave. what you can dress like that's North. Korea yeah she said that it's hell the.

only thing they were free to do is. breathe yeah they didn't even she they. didn't even have a word for I they don't. have a eye you know like I mean like it. was your you were sitting in front of. her you know that but just like I think. this yeah they don't have that yeah it's. we yeah yeah that's North Korea she's. who it's just like people that. should we should we make communism a. thing all right well let's ask park. right and put her on a pedestal and say. tell us and then she would tell us well. look at the people that come from Cuba.

they don't want to hear no [ __ ] yeah. no nonsense No Nonsense yeah do you see. the Biden Administration is shipping. people back to Venezuela people that. escaped Venezuela and came to America. they know they're going to vote. Republican they don't want to have. nothing to do with socialism people that. escaped that [ __ ] in Venezuela they are. the ones that they don't want so they're. actively working with the Venezuelan. government to ship back people to. Venezuela I mean that's what park is. she's like she's like I didn't mean to. but apparently I'm on the right right.

exactly you know like I'm on the right. side of the aisle now and she she talks. about that like the left hates me for. some reason well for some reason they. just don't want to look at her suffering. and her story because it interferes with. their narrative that we just haven't. done communism right yet that no one. done it correctly what they don't. understand is the only way to enforce. communism is force that's the only way. to get people to give up their property. and to fall in line and to do everything. for the greater good of everyone else. and it's usually one group of people.

have mass control of the resources and. wealth which is what communist communist. dictatorships are and everybody else. suffers the idea of equality it's not. equality it's it never works that way. that's not human nature you know if what. you want is like genuine charity from. people what you want is people that. contribute to the community and they. think about it and they do it. voluntarily and it's it's it's a a. reinforce by the culture that's what you. want what you don't want is the.

government telling you that you have to. give up most of your money for the. greater good of everybody else because. then they just take it and that's that's. how it worked in North Korea and that's. how it would work everywhere the only. way to enforce that kind of like because. it's so unnatural for people to not. exist in a a a a true like what what. people enjoy in life is succeeding the. difficult struggle of trying to do. something that's hard to do and finding. your own path and through that freedom.

becoming successful a meritocracy a real. meritocracy where everybody has a chance. that's what we should strive for in this. country meritocracies not victim. mentality and certainly not communism. it's it's a terrible idea and it seems. like a good idea because why does so. many have so much and others have so. little well our the problem is the. culture is not encouraging the people. that have so much to realize that. they're so fortunate and to help out in. some way that would be better what's the.

worst thing is taking from those people. and giving it to people who are doing. nothing then you're creating this. entitlement class you're creating this. this group of people that think that. somehow and other people that are. successful are evil if other people. aren't successful and it's just a a way. to pit us against each other and that's. not what we need in this country what we. need is people coming together and. realizing that we're all one big. community and trying to do something for. the greater good of the whole community. and encouraging people to do better in. their own lives encouraging people and.

giving them the opportunity to work hard. and feel that satisfaction of. accomplishing something that's what we. should all be striving. for so somehow or another that's. rightwing yeah which is kind of crazy. what I was about to say like pretty much. everybody like where I come from is like. fist pumping they agree with everything. you just said like selfishly for me like. as like you know like not selfishly I. mean everybody's wondering it but just.

like what do I do like even just me. specifically like with you know I've got. a platform where comedy is my main thing. like and that's where um like there's so. many things I want to talk about you. know but like I think people to me for. an Escape right but but so two different. questions like what do I. do on that level but then also what do I. do just on the human level of. like making that change or like how do.

how do you talk about that because it's. so divisive to people I think you live. your life as an excellent example that's. what you do you live your life and. people learn from watching you they. learn from I want to live my life the. way that guy's living that guy seems. fulfilled and happy and he works hard. and it's it's obviously very satisfying. for him I want to feel that too and. through example you you live your life. through and you you help people through. the example of the way you live your. life that's real man you know and that's.

what I get out of very inspirational. people like we talked about gogins and. Cam and Joo and there's a lot of people. like that out there that inspire me and. Jordan Peterson and just brilliant. Douglas Murray brilliant people who. through their own hard work and. dedication carved out this life and then. through their words and their their. Brilliance Inspire other people to learn. and grow yeah that's what's up Dale. brisbee what do you what if what if they.

knock. on what if they knock on your door who's. they I mean like you're in Texas where. they come and come and take it. flag Oh you mean what if the government. comes and knocks on your door the. problem is in this country people are. very independent and we're very well. armed and we're also not interested in. being controlled by the government and. uh the problem with the government is. it's filled with people and most of. those people that you would have to have. control people are regular people it's.

easy to convince some to turn arms. against their brothers and sisters. because the government tells you to do. it there are people that would fall in. line with that but I think they'd have a. hard time convincing most people. especially most people that are. genuinely patriotic that sign up for the. military and for law enforcement they're. not interested in doing they're not. interested in forcing the will of these. people that are. tyrants yeah it'd be harder to pull off. in America than it would a lot of places. is I think America has instilled in us.

this love of freedom and some people. that's one of the reasons why they try. to demonize that because that that's. very difficult to control people that. have this reinforced love of. freedom I agree with that and to. convince you that it's for the greater. good of everyone if we take away your. guns the greater good of everyone if you. fall in line for the greater good of. everyone if you pay 90% in taxes greater. good of everyone if you do this if you. do that and ultimately it's not it's for. the greater good of the people that are. in control and it seems like every time. they make those decisions the world just.

gets worse it doesn't get more Equitable. and fair it gets [ __ ] worse it gets. worse the economy gets worse the people. struggle more it's not good what we need. to do is figure out a way to give me. people more opportunity to succeed not. to just give people things and. that's that's human nature it's just. that's what makes people happy people. what makes people happy people is. teaching them how to live their life and. allowing them to live their life in a.

way that gives them the maximum amount. of freedom and the most amount of. satisfaction I guess I asked that like I. said like my dad died 10 years ago like. two months before my first video which. was funny because he was the reason that. it started you know but. and then there was just like this Gap. where I was like oh man I gota like I've. got to become a man now and it means. like I've got to make decisions that are. going to affect me and there'll be.

people looking to me like well how are. you going to decide on this and I get to. set the tone and and there's certain. things you know like my faith that are. easy for me to make decisions on on like. what I would do in certain instances but. then there's other things like as an. American and that's what makes me ask. that question questions just like how. far do you take this or that and that's. where like listening to you talk about. it on this podcast listening to Marcus. talk about it you know like I've I've. had to look outside of myself to make.

decisions on what kind of man what kind. of American I'm going to be and uh. that's what made me ask that question. like I guess you know I just kind of. looked to my dad on a lot of things and. like default to him and then him dying. was just it tested everything had to go. back and like not that I thought he was. wrong but just like start over in a way. and just like re-evaluate and got to. figure it out for yourself figure it out. for myself because if I'm willing to die.

for it then I better be pretty damn sure. right you know right and um I don't know. sometimes I think you know people might. say. that and they're not willing to die for. it it's just sexy to and fun and they. jump on a bandwagon but like I'm kind of. more like man I'm I better be careful. because if I do go down this route I'm. gonna that's what I mean that's what I. think I mean that's what I hope I mean. let's hope that never is a problem but. yeah I don't think that would be a. problem I don't think it's going to be a.

problem in this country I hope not but. my real fear is that if a tragedy. happens if some sort of a an attack. happens some sort of a horrific event. happens then they start clamping down on. people because that's what they did. right after 911 they passed the Patriot. Act and the. ndaa that's where things get sketchy. like when things get sketchy as they. take advantage of something that happens. and then they clamp down on people more. in order to protect you and keep you. safe you got to give away some freedom. and that is just not the way to go it.

took a long time to create something. like America and we got to we got to. keep this thing going well I mean. there's some there's some of those. things that happen where it. strengthened well mean like like for. instance Co like I know in California. there were like lines around the block. for people trying to defend them you. know get a gun so they could defend. themselves well that was just fear that. was the George Floyd riots because the. yeah CU they defund the police movement. and they realize that cops aren't. showing up anymore and people's houses.

are getting broken into and that's. that's when people were lying around the. block for guns and I had like a lot of. my liberal friends asking me if they. could use one of my guns I'm like that's. not how it works bro yeah like you got. to go get a gun you got to go get one. you got to learn how to shoot it right. you don't know how to shoot a gun I'm. not going to give you a gun you don't. know how to shoot go to a range get. instructions yeah you got to change. teams change team change change the team. Second Amendment yeah you know and when. you really need that when you really. need to protect your family that's when. you realize why the Second Amendment.

exists you know it's very it's to when. you don't need it and you it's not a. concern in your life and it's never. something you've had to deal with you. could easily brush aside the idea that. that's important the ability to defend. yourself but it's very important. it's just like woodro f call said in. lome Dove it's better to have it and not. need it than need it and not have it yes. sir and it's like that Jiu-Jitsu for me. that one in 10 year one in 20 year maybe.

never happened at all like it's better. to have it and not need it the needed. not have it because it's about a 20. minute before the cops can get to my. house it's like 20 minutes well in these. days like you know in a lot of cities. where they've defunded the police that's. generous it might be an hour even. violent encounters you can't you can't. wait 20 minutes no you can't it's it's. just like the people that don't agree. with ranching but they still want that. meat to be in the grocery store like.

that's that's the level of delusion. convenient thinking yeah it's just I'm. just not going to need a gun like well. I've know a lot of people though in La. that have experienced violent encounters. that have completely switch sides right. I I have friends that were super. anti-gun now they have multiple guns. curious I don't know where she stood. before Sandra I didn't mean to interrupt. you um Sandra bulock have you heard that. 911 call no she's in the house on the. phone with 911 some in house somebody's.

in her house is that out here where was. that I don't know like I've heard it. online Am I Wrong Jamie is that recent. I'm pretty sure that that that that it's. Sandra Bullock on the phone with 91 is. that recent 2018. 2018 like I I like I said I don't know. scary [ __ ] 2014 is when it happened I'm. sorry okay scary [ __ ] man but but. somebody like that like it's pretty. tested like you don't have time you're. on the phone with the police right you. know it's and it's either you or them. yeah and that's like very basic you know.

but anyway yeah anyway that's a Cowboy. Logic that's another thing that I think. a lot of my. people agree with yeah well it's Sound. Logic yeah I just yeah be prepared. it's better to be prepared than not be. prepared yeah for sure well Dale brisbee. it's been fun talking to you brother I. appreciate you coming on I enjoyed it. tell everybody how they can watch your. videos and see all that [ __ ] online oh.

man anywhere YouTube inis bull rider on. YouTube YouTube and Just D brisbee on. everything else Rodeo time.com there you. go thanks for coming in brother I. appreciate you yeah it's been a pleasure. than for the hatot too yes sir you thank. you very much you bet all right bye. everybody. [Music].