Joe Rogan Experience #2052 - Shane Dorian
Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day what's up Shan Dorian how are you. brother I'm doing great man good to see. you thanks see what's the latest and. your. greatest lots of stuff man I feel like I. don't know I feel like normally I don't. have that much that's the latest and. greatest but yeah A lot's been happening. I've been crazy busy but all good stuff. so nothing to complain about about.
what's been happening what's crazy busy. um let's see in the last last three. months four months been to Mexico twice. El Salvador once California four or five. times Indonesia for a month. Tahiti uh France Mexico damn son yeah. World traveler a lot what you been doing. a lot of Surfing yeah lot of Surfing. how's your knee it's great is it 100%. amazing it's it's not 100% but it's I.
never thought it would be this good. again honestly it's really really good I. have slight range of motion that's not. as good as as the other which is s you. know to be expected but it's great I. surf with no brace I snowboard with no. brace um I go hunting all the time with. no brace I never I never I never really. think about it which is amazing for. people that don't know uh you were in a. snowboarding accident and you [ __ ]. demolished your knee yeah I ran right. into a tree wrap my knee around a tree. always my fear when I see people skiing.
and snowboarding and some I I quit. skiing because of an accident I [ __ ]. my knee up and I cracked my shin bone I. got an insufficiency fracture in the top. of my shin bone yeah I was like that's. it I'm done done with. this yeah I love snowboarding I'm not. giving it up so I'm uh but yeah like to. answer your to answer your question I'm. I'm really happy with the way my knee. healed up so I yeah it was a shitty. experience of that whole process how. long did it take you to fully heal.
probably 18. months yeah wow but I was really really. um I you know I really followed the pro. the I I followed all the physical. therapy and all the protocol and I I uh. you know I did every single thing I. could to to help it out like you like. you rang me and said let's do the let's. get some stem cells in your knee so like. I came twice here um guys at ways to. well helped me out with that and I had. great results from that actually felt. the like the difference which is amazing.
but it healed great so you were saying. that was the Turning Point like the. waist to well like that you were that. this is what one of the things that. really pushed you over the edge where it. really felt like it was healing yeah I. mean I went to a great surgeon and he. does these things all the time with you. know great success and I have a lot of. friends who've had that exact same. surgery from him so I was really. confident what was the extend of the. injury I got full repairs of my ACL and. my MCL they both basically blew. off yeah so they so they took my.
patellar tendon and split it in thirds. and then built new ligaments out of that. so did the MCL and the ACL out of Patel. attendant yeah how much does that. compromise the Patel attendant it. doesn't really cuz I had a Patel. attendant graft on my left knee and it. took forever to heal where on my right. knee I had a cadaver which only took. like six months yeah I think it I think. using a cadabra you you heal much faster. yeah but yeah the why did they decide to. do that with you just because.
like that specific injury that I had. like I I like I spoke to my surgeon. really good guy named uh um Warren. Kramer out of California um and he said. look we have a couple different options. here you can choose and he just kind of. ran me through and he said if it was my. I would use a Patell tenant he goes. it'll take longer to heal but you'll be. Rock Solid and like the way he explained. is is the Patell tenant is pretty wide. and really really strong so even though. you're taking a third from one side and. a third from the other side the it it. doesn't does really compromise the.
Integrity of the actual tendon and it's. weird the way your body is able to turn. that tendon into ligaments that's. strange it is so they take a tendon and. then they make ligaments well they like. they like they put it in place um you. know where where you used to have these. ligaments and it your body accepts it. over time as a ligament yeah well with. the cadaver thing one of the weird. things is that your body uses it as a. scaffolding and then repr proliferates. it with its own tissue so it's not like. have this cadaver tendon inside of you.
gotcha cuz I have an Achilles tendon. that's what it started out with that was. that's what replaced my ACL in my right. name oh wow they some dead dude they. took his Achilles T cuz your Achilles is. 150% stronger apparently once they do. that than the original ACL and then they. just screw that sucker in place and dude. I was good to go quick I went to a party. without a brace 5 days later after. surgery wow yeah I was out I was I was. in bad shape for a long time yeah I was.
with my left knee yeah my left knee was. in agony for a long time because they. have to saw the [ __ ] piece out of the. bone and the piece out of the bone of. your shin and screw the both of them in. place I couldn't go on my knees I. couldn't do anything if I had to kneel. down I couldn't do anything for like a. year the pain from waking up after. surgery was so brutal I had no idea how. bad it was going to be it sucked it's. intense really bad yeah it was for me it. was one of the only times I ever took. painkillers and the the Killers made me.
feel so stupid it was so I whatever it I. can't remember it was perco setes or. vikin in can't remember but I remember I. sold it to some dude at the pool hall I. love that yeah some dude was like I'll. take him buy I'll sell it to you yeah. some crazy junkie named Jeff um Jeff the. junkie Jeff the junkie yeah I just threw. painkillers in the trash this morning at. my hotel nice and um I remember thinking. I just looked down as I was throwing him. in the trash and thinking man there's. probably people outside right right now. that would like do something terrible.
for those. painkillers I hate painkillers yeah I. feel like you're either you're like in. one group of the other where like your. body really loves pain or your brain I. guess really loves painkillers or really. doesn't I'm definitely hate painkillers. yeah I didn't take anything from my. right knee I didn't take a a goddamn. thing after the surgery I was like I. just deal with pain I remember what it. was like taking them for my left I was. like [ __ ] off it doesn't jive with me it.
just makes me again I hear opiates are. amazing I I hear people that take like. oxyon and they said it's amazing like oh. my God it's so wonderful yeah like um I. had Peter Berg on the podcast he's the. guy that produced that Netflix uh series. painkiller I listened to that one was. awesome he's amazing Peter's amazing but. but that painkiller show is like so it's. so eye openening but he was saying that. he took oxycotton once recreationally. and he was like oh my God this is so.
good I can never do this again like just. like it just makes you feel so wonderful. that it's they say it's they you feel. like you're slowly falling into like a. jar of honey like a warm jar of honey. that's that's a good way to describe it. but I don't feel like that when I'm on. pain when I have to take a painkiller I. feel loopy and it feels nauseous I feel. feels gross but well that's good yeah. very grateful for that why did you you. needed them after stem cells is that. what you needed yeah so I just had stem.
cell treatment in Mexico so you went to. the CPI the cellular performance. Institute Mexico and you just got. hammered with them right yeah I was. there for a week and um it was intense. it was great so yeah so my my my. treatment was was pretty over the top. not over the top but for me it was a lot. I got both shoulders done both knees um. my right elbow my lumbar spine and my. cervical spine and they you know I did.
the cervical spine and the and the. lumbar and when they do your spine they. put you out so they put you under. anesthesia and then they do the rest of. my body at that same time and then. because there were so many stem cells in. my back um like most of the time people. wake up from that and they're really. sore in a lot of pain um and so they. gave me some some some pain medication. which I sort of needed right when I woke. up but like by the next morning I was. just on like the Tylenol trip so like. things mellowed out really quick for me. so that was 2 weeks ago you said yeah it.
was like 10 days ago now 10 days ago. yeah do you feel any difference yes um. so I'm not supposed to to feel any. different for like the first month like. you know you know like the these these. sort of stem cells are a little bit. different that's my understanding at. least so they're they're called a a Hy a. hypoxic stem cell and they're from cord. blood so they're so they're from an. umbilical cord. um and I got. 180 million stem cells injected and then.
I got a 100 million stem cells in an IV. and. um and so those kind of those kind of. stem cells they're called hypoxic which. is I think it means that they do really. really well under very low oxygen. environments so they're able to live in. my body for up to 12 months live I don't. know if that's the right word but. they're they stay active and growing in. your body for 12 months so um so now. it's just a matter of me following the. protocol which is not that fun and so.
the the protocol involves essentially a. lot of rest right you're you're not. supposed to train like what what is the. protocol yeah so the protocol with these. specific stem cells like because they. you know sort of live so long in your. body um the first two weeks is basically. nothing it's like maybe 15 minutes of. like walking per day and then after that. you work with a physical therapist and. you have very specific physical therapy. so it's like um a lot of like. stabilization stuff like I did my spine.
so I was talking to um Nikki hind who's. my my physical therapist and so so she's. creating like a physical therapy um. schedule and program for me based around. my spine and she told me that she's. she's worked with some people who have. had um intense stem cell therapies and. it's like a pretty crazy opportunity to. to to kind of um you have like a second. chance like at this age with my spine to. like really change it the way the way it. is. um so I'm pretty excited about that I.
have some like degeneration and some. some some bulging discs in my lower. lower back and then I have some my upper. upper back my cervical spine is pretty. [ __ ] up from all the surfing wipeouts. I've had whoa so so surfing wipeouts. like when you hit the ground and the. water comes like falling off a 60ft wave. and hitting the surface of the water. that impact with the water like moving. at you know like 30 m an hour and you're. going in the other direction then. yeah [ __ ] so neck is jacked up from a.
lot of that and do they go right into. the actual disc itself so they go in I. know in my I don't want to mess this up. right but um I try to ask all the right. questions and memorize everything but uh. um I know in my cervical spine they. mostly did my facets but in my lower. back I I think they went straight in the. discs so they did my SI joint and then. like my C5 C4 is that I don't know if. that sounds correct but M um so yeah. they did the discs wow is it's supposed. to make the disc expand yeah and make it.
larger and so there's more cushion. between the spinal column yeah. exactly and they re you know like they. regrow tissue they regrow ligaments and. so where there's been a lot of um. wearing down a lot of times it'll regrow. that so I did my MRIs before my. treatment and then I'll go back six. months from now and get updated MRIs. they're really good about the data so. they want to see your progress so the. doctor will go over you with your new. MRI 6 months from now and and compare. them exactly to the previous MRI and go.
hey here here's where here here's where. your knee was or here's where your discs. were and here's where they are now and. so they tried you know that's the that's. the goal right is is is for you to see. some major Improvement and is a part of. the thing with not exercising at all. just make sure that you don't don't do. any breaking down of the body while it's. going through this process of accepting. the stem cells is that yeah that's a. good question so.
my my understanding is so in your body. like the way an injury or like a torn. ligament or a torn rotator cuff shows up. in your body it's just inflammation and. inflammation is like basically like a. magnet for stem cells so the so the stem. cells go exactly where they're needed in. your body they're really smart um so the. so so the stem cells were injected. straight into the joints and into the. areas of my body but. um with would you ask me again what was. the question I I said the idea of no.
exercise is it just like you just have. no nothing no strain on the body. whatsoever for a long time while these. stem cells sort of just s start doing. their work so what you don't want to do. is create inflammation that wasn't there. already because you want your stem cells. to go to your inflammation that you. already had befor right so you want it. to heal your body where you need it the. most so you don't want to like if I went. like running 15 miles right now my stem. cells get. confused and trying to go to my calves.
to try to try to repair that that muscle. soreness because that's inflammation. right um and so you don't want to do. that and you don't want to decrease. inflammation either when you get stem. cells which is interesting so I can't do. the cold plunge I can't do the I I can't. do the sauna can't take. anti-inflammatories how long do they. tell you not to do the gold plunge or. sauna like five or six weeks really yeah. wow cuz these these stem cells are so. active for so long that if you really. want to get get the most out of the. treatment that that's the protocol and I.
was like ah they're just saying that you. know they're just they're just saying. that for like the the like general. public but right I think athletes always. feel like they're like in a different. category of course and just because I I. don't know why that is because you are. in a different category in some aspects. maybe but and and then and then I call. my physical therapist and I'm like hey. these guys are saying this but like. obviously it's not that right and she's. like no there that's right on like if. you want to get the most out of this. treatment then you got to follow the. protocol and that that is the protocol.
so that would drive me nuts I being a. big baby about the not working out part. yeah yeah do you do anything can you. swim can you do anything I can swim they. they encourage you to swim you can walk. a lot and like unless obviously unless. you have pain so in your knees or. something pain because the stem cells. are like really active in your body so. like if you get knee pain it could like. it could flare up because of the stem. cells but if you're not having that then. you can walk a lot and then I'll be able. to do um like resistance training with. bands and stuff offu like fairly soon. like probably like 4 weeks from now um.
and then but it's difficult you know. like at my at my age I'm 51 and and for. like 18 months I've been pretty on it. like trying to be fit try trying to get. my fitness better try you know really. trying to get in shape you looking rip. dude you sent me a picture you're. looking. good yeah it's funny how guys will do. that how the GU guys will be like hey. update right. here especially when you're when you. work freaking hard dude yeah you want. people to see it it takes a long time. especially me I'm like a I don't know.
the like the way my body works like if I. don't work out like so right now if I. didn't work out for like three. months I'll lose so much right like just. be like I feel like I'm going to turn to. Mush right once I mush it it might take. a year to get back right that what I. lost in like you know one month or six. weeks or something which is wild yeah. yeah it sucks and I'm not cool with it. at all so yeah it's it really makes you. appreciate it though once once you do.
get it back like once if you do get out. of shape and then you get back in shape. you realize how hard it is that's one. one of the reasons why I'm so fanatical. about working out because I know that. when I've gotten out of shape that road. back is a lot different at 56 which is. how old I am versus 30 or 25 yeah the. road back's road back at 25 is a couple. weeks you're good to go like you're. tippy top shape again but at 56 it's. like months yeah the this is cool I I uh.
one thing I did learn and I'm and I'm. and I'm trying to keep this in mind when. when I'm sort of being a baby about all. the thing about not working out your. like your muscles have a really strong. memory so if you're really fit and then. all of a sudden and you go through a. period like I'm going through right now. where I'm probably going to get unfit. for a little bit it'll come back much. faster back to kind of exactly where you. were before really quickly because your. muscles have memory so definitely in. comparison to someone who's out of sh. shape yeah someone who never works out.
at all it will take them forever to get. into the shape that you were in totally. yeah big difference but I guess I I. forget the exactly I I think it was. Andrew huberman was talking about it and. he was saying that like there's like. muscle bellies within your muscle and. and so if if you develop those muscle. bellies they have a a really solid. memory and so when you try to get back. in shape you'll snap back way faster so. I definitely have heard that before and. it definitely makes sense you know that. your your body recognizes like oh this.
is a place that we've been before we. have a memory of this so we just get. back to where that is and just because. to get someone who's one of the things. that drives me crazy is that people that. are really out of shape that have never. worked out and they're like ah I got to. get into shape like okay do you know. what you're saying like that you don't. don't like I have a friend of mine is's. overweight and he's been talking to me. about e exercise and just like I'm. worried about being sore I go listen man.
if you. wants yeah I go if you want to do this I. go I will work out with you and I. promise you you will barely get sore. because I'm not going to make you we. will work out for maybe 20 minutes yeah. and he goes why just 20 minutes I go. because you're not doing anything right. now like you shouldn't if you try to do. what I do every day your body's going to. tear apart like you'll blow your. shoulders out you ruin your knees what. we want to do is just slowly Build You. Up what have you do is just do like five.
push-ups five body weight squats five. situps take a break relax I'll I'll I'll. show you some stuff that we can do with. bands I'll I'll give you some different. exercises that we could do with kettle. bells very light just clean press I'll. just have a couple of things that you do. some swings and we'll work out for maybe. 20 minutes and then stop and then I want. to see how you feel the next day and. then I'm going to get you in the cold. plunge I'm going to get you in the sauna. and then in two days we'll do it again.
and if we do it again it's still the. same thing very light 20 minutes and. it'll I would I would do that and I told. them I will do that with you for a. couple weeks before I have you really. straining hard yeah I don't want yeah I. don't want you like hurting yourself. because too many people they try to make. up for years of abuse and they try to. just jump right back in and [ __ ] run. a marathon like don't do that you need. to your body is of shape like it's got.
It's got you have no muscle tissue. you're surrounded by fat like we got to. build it back nice and slow the same way. it got sick yeah build it. back so so many people take 20 years to. put on 100 pounds and then expect to. lose it in three months you know well. and then that's the big hook with all. these stupid diet programs 10 weeks to. sixpack abs like no that's not gonna. happen no it's not gonna happen I feel. like people really tend to overestimate.
how much you have to train too like the. like the duration per day right like. exactly what you said like your friend. that that misconception of like I need. to work out an hour every single day and. person's totally obese or something like. that you don't need to at all you know. and and consistency is way more. important than than even intensity yes. you know what I mean if you're kind of. intense but you're super consistent you. do it every single day or five days a. week you get insane results in 6 months. well that's one of the things that the. Russians figured out with uh wrestling. that instead of these like unbelievably.
brutal intense workouts like the. American wrestlers were doing what they. were doing was very high volume. technical work yeah over long periods of. time like several hours per day and they. were training multiple day like almost. every day a week and but not high. intensity all the time and they were. developing a far greater array of skills. their skill the skill Improvement was. greater and then overall fit. was also getting great too because you.
weren't breaking yourself down and then. forcing yourself to work out with a. broken down body they were they were. doing it the correct way but the correct. way and the tough guy way are very. different things like the tough guy way. is [ __ ] it just [ __ ] grind get in. there and push and that's that's a good. mentality sort of but you can trip. yourself up with that because you'll. literally put too much of a demand on. your body then your body's capable of. meeting like you're mind can be tougher. than the actual.
physical the actual physical ability of. your body to recover and move yeah and. yeah I think it's easy to overtrain too. when you get really sometimes you get. addicted to training like I am for sure. I love working out I love it um but you. know I train so differently now than I. did when I was in my 40s and my 30s I. think I overtrained a lot when I was. when I was younger yeah and and now I'm. realizing at least for my goals now like. like my goal with working out now is. like specifically for so I can continue.
doing the things I love to do as long as. possible I want a bow hunt I want a. snowboard I want to surf till I'm in my. 80s yeah you know that's that's the real. goal or maybe as long as I possibly can. right I don't I mean I like getting. super jacked or or getting super. shredded or whatever that's that's that. sounds like fun too but really it's all. about like like performance yeah. long-term performance um can you do yoga. after stem cells no is that no no they.
specifically said that yeah yeah but you. can but not not at first so the first. like month to eight weeks are really. important for the stem cells um and it. really depends so like if if I just had. like a say like a torn rotator cuff and. I did the injection on my shoulder I. could start start getting back in the. gym much faster and I could start doing. squats and I could start doing all this. other stuff um like once they're settled. into where they are is fine but you. don't want to create inflammation in. those areas so as long as you're not.
doing overhead presses on that shoulder. you're probably going to be you're going. to be just fine so with me I had you. know extensive stem cells throughout my. body especially in my spine and my back. so I got to be careful I'm very. interested to see how the spine the back. stuff works is I've had I've had a lot. of those same issues myself with. degenerative discs and it's uh just from. Jiu-Jitsu mostly yeah it's like. everybody I know from Jiu-Jitsu has. something [ __ ] up about their backs I. know a lot of guys to have had disc. Replacements they they open you up and.
put a [ __ ] titanium disc in there. like the problem with that is like they. got to replace it someday right and so. you want to put that off as long as you. can right yeah but [ __ ] that yeah [ __ ]. that [ __ ] that a second spinal surgery. they go back in there such a nightmare. and a lot of times they go from the. front I heard they go through your neck. through the front of your neck to get to. there gnarly yeah I guess it's the best. way to do it they open you up they open. up a slip. spread it open like a keyhole yeah I'm.
going to try with the stem cells for now. for sure you're fit dude what have you. been eating I I I know I asked you on. the when I was I was texting you but I. wanted to get a full breakdown of Joe's. food program it's almost all meat yeah. yeah yeah I'm almost entirely that's my. all I eat is meat okay I yesterday my. entire day was almost my entire day was. like 95% elk wow yeah it's all I eat. freaking awesome yeah for me it just.
seems to work I mean I've tried a bunch. of different diets but for me uh there's. a lot of benefits to this carnivore diet. and one of the biggest ones because I do. this for a living right so one of the. biggest ones is the cognitive benefits. yeah there's there's some giant. difference between your body running on. ketones which is essentially when it. runs on when you're running on just fats. and protein versus your body running on. sugar carbs and you know pasta and bread. yeah that stuff would make me crash and.
I would feel dull like my mind would. feel dull and when I started back on the. carnivore diet like one of the first. things that I noticed like almost. immediately is that I had an extra gear. verbally I get an extra gear cognitively. like oh my mind is forming sentences. better like it's it's quicker I'm I'm. I'm more in tune with. conversations which obviously because I. do this for a living it's. so critical I would stay on this diet.
just for that just for that but then the. other benefits are my energy levels are. completely flat throughout the day. there's no crashes there no Peaks and. valleys and good energy [ __ ] great. yeah it would took a while I I have to. be honest the first couple weeks of the. diet my workout struggled yeah but they. call that like the keto flu I people. call that cuz essentially period of time. when your body is trying to trying to. adapt to what you're trying to exactly. give it right exactly and so I do take.
in some um fats that aren't animal fats. like one of the things I really like is. uh Primal kitchen's products Primal. kitchen makes this Chipotle lime. mayonnaise that's made with yes I love. gu he's great he's an awesome dude and. Mark makes a uh Primal kitchen. mayonnaise that's avocado oil Y which is. very good for you I think we have some. of that at the house it's great stuff. and so what I do is cook up on the the. Trager I'll cook up like a few elk.
roasts like for the week and then I buy. like four or five jars of that Primal. mayonnaise at a time and I'll just scoop. it onto a plate and I just dip slices of. cold elk into there like I came home. last night from The Comedy Club at 1:30. in the morning and that's what I ate I. just ate a big plate of elk and some. Primal kitchen mayonnaise and and. watched. YouTube I cannot that's disciplined dud. to eat all meat all day. that's crazy I I'm pretty decent like.
I'm pretty I'm pretty decent like with. discipline and even with my food I'm I'm. I'm I'm really disciplined with working. out and kind of disciplined with food. and I'd say for like you know 80% of my. food intake is like pretty darn good. it's like meat and eggs for the most. part um but man I I do love like I have. sugar Cravings there's no doubt about it. everybody does and the thing is if you. don't stop eating sugar you're always. going to have these super strong sugar. cravings and there's such a big. difference between.
uh hunger and hunger and Cravings are. two totally different things but you. feel them in the same way you get this. trigger of like [ __ ] I'm hungry hungry. right now I've always said that like if. you just give me a ribeye steak and I. eat the ribeye steak I will be satisfied. and I'll be done eating I might not even. eat the whole steak you'll stop when. you're done for sure but if there's a. bowl of pasta right next to that I'm. going to dig into that spaghetti I'm. going to [ __ ] eat that whole thing. and then I'm going be like oh and then. my stomach's going to be be bloated and. like oh like I've had giant meals and.
then just looked at my stomach in the. mirror I'm like what what are you. pregnant like what is that it just. bloated with food I'm a I'm a real. Glutton I have a real problem with food. yeah I do too but I don't really because. I'm I'm disciplined but if I let myself. I will eat two pizzas right I will. [ __ ] you give me like two pepperoni. and mushroom pizzas I will [ __ ] keep. eating. I until I'm like stuffing it like the. pizza's up to my neck like it's really. hard to do that with meat it's really.
hard to do that when you're eating just. meat you're going to eat until you're. done and then you're done well meat has. a very high satiety level where and. anything that's high in protein it it. satisfies you quickly it's delicious so. satisfying it's 100% my favorite thing. to eat yeah so if I could just eat. ribeye steaks or Alchemy for the rest of. the thing about eating game Wild game. though is you must supplement with fat. you have to have fat because like you. lose too much weight too well it's. you're not getting enough fat you have. to get fat fat is important for your.
brain function it's it's important for. everything so when I um if I that's why. I like that Primal kitchen mayonnaise. stuff or when I cook uh elk what I'll do. is uh most of the time I will slow cook. it on the Trager like 265 until it. reaches an internal temperature about. like 115 or so yeah and then what I do. is I take cast iron frying pan and I use. beef Tallow and so you gets a lot of fat. for the beef Tallow yeah and um so I'll.
use grass-fed beef Tallow and I sear it. on the outside in that beef Tallow I get. the fat from that I also try to get fat. from bacon Bacon's not good for you okay. whatever listen trust me it's good for. you it's fat you need fat like it's not. good for you if you're eating all. cheeseburgers from from McDonald's and. processed food and then you put bacon on. top of that Bacon's not the problem the. real problem is there's a there's a a a. giant issue that people have with. processed foods and when you talk about.
like there's there's a bunch of goofy. epidemiology uh studies that talk about. how meat increases your rate of cancer. but what that the way those studies work. is someone will fill out a form like how. many days a week do you eat meat and you. know I eat meat six days a week and what. they don't ask is what kind of meat are. you eating a Jack In The Box. cheeseburger do you have fries with that. do you have a shake of soda like there's. a bunch of other things that people do.
eat so there's a thing called healthy. user bias right so if you're if you're. someone who says like I don't e any meat. and well well you're probably listening. to a lot you're you're probably trying. to do the right thing for your health so. you're listening to what would be like. mainstream conventional doctor's wisdom. on diet which is almost certainly off. cuz most these doctors that are talking. about these they they're not up on the. latest studies they're not like huberman. or Lane Norton or any these like like if.
you really want to know like what's good. for you and what's bad for you I always. say listen to jacked scientists like. those are the guys are going to tell you. like these are the foods that are. actually good for you these are the. foods and almost everyone agrees Sugar's. terrible for you sugar breads pastas and. then you get into the more controversial. areas of seed oils seed oils which. essentially were initially they were. initially invented to be industrial f um. lubricants for machinery and they.
figured out have you ever like seen the. process where they take like canola oil. which like you think of as like oh. canola must be corn must be healthy no. it's rape seed which is a that word. people don't like like rape seed what. the [ __ ] is that thing I don't want to. have nothing to do with that plant well. that's what canola oil is and then. there's like. safflower oil and sunflower oil oh those. sound wonderful not good for you at all. yeah avocado oil is though avocado oil.
is very good for you uh olive oil very. good for you there's a lot of oils that. are very good for you that's another. thing that those two in particular are. definitely the best yes I there's. another thing I really like to do with. meat I'll pour olive oil on it put a. little salt put a little olive oil. that's why I'm getting a lot of healthy. fats yeah and so so with my diet I have. to make sure that I get healthy fats. because you just eat just only like elk. there's not enough fat they're too lean. but rib eyes you eat all ribe eyes all. day if I ate all elk I I would probably.
weigh 130 lbs you'd get shredded though. son shredded like crazy shredded yeah. for sure so for what I was saying was. like for the first two weeks it was. really hard uh my workouts were rough it. was like I was sort of fighting off a. cold almost like I just. like pushing yeah like when I headaches. too no not that bad no just a little bit. of fatigue and mostly just during. exercise it wasn't really that much. during the day day not at all during the. day in fact but I could feel the.
difference but somewhere along the line. about two weeks in your body hits a. switch and now it has no effect on me. now I feel great I feel great hitting. the bag I feel great doing sprints. sprints on the aird bike I feel great. with my body weight workouts kettlebell. workouts everything's great but more. importantly for my job for this my brain. works better just works better right and. for comedy writing that stuff better all. the above everything's better it's. just carbs and bread and all that stuff.
it's just the crash like the. inconsistency that you get throughout. the day and also like the fact that you. just keep eating you just just get. bloated just stuff your fat [ __ ] face. with cheeseburgers yeah if you give me. cheeseburgers with buns I'll eat three. or four of those [ __ ] I can't stop. hell yeah you you'll eat it till it's. all gone I will too but like you know. what I like to go I like to go to. In-N-Out and I get those Flying Dutchmen. you ever get that no I don't like. In-N-Out you don't like I don't like. In-N-Out how dare you I really don't D.
their fries suck oh my God I feel like I. judge a burger joint on the fries really. I love their fries I don't like their. fries well do you like McDonald's fries. no no whose fries do you like I like. like like big potato wedge fries you. know how the best fries sweet potato. fries I'm a big fan of oh those are the. best yeah but you know how's the best. fries in all of fast food Burgers Five. Guys Five Guys Five Guys has some. [ __ ] fries I don't think I've ever. eaten at Five Guys oh they're the best.
five guys will give you bacon on your. burger and jalap you get bacon and. jalapenos Five Guys is the best I prefer. Five Guys over even over in- and out. yeah my son likes In-N-Out and we go. there sometimes and I get the animal. style with the lettuce wraps M and it's. all right lettuce wraps okay I prefer. what's called a Flying Dutchman and what. a Flying Dutchman is just a Patty slice. of cheese Patty that's what I get oh. gotcha it's like a Patty it's like a. cheese sandwich with the Patty as as the. bread you eat cheese on on a regular.
yeah yeah of chees dairy whatever I eat. all kinds of cheese what about fruit no. fruit occasionally have fruit does itas. does it uh make you feel weird or any to. give you a weird no sometimes in the. morning I just decide I want a little. pep up I'll have a banana before I work. out but most of the time I work out. fasted yeah I like berries and papayas I. eat a lot of them oh those are great. yeah I love papayas yeah I love mango. Mango's probably my favorite fruit. papayas papayas are really good for your. digestion I was gonna talk I was GNA say.
that um like while while we're on the. this thing about the food um you know. Denise Denise right yeah way to well she. like I did my original blood work with. with her and then we did a really cool. uh Zoom call afterwards and we talked. for like an hour about my blood work and. I was uh deficient in a bunch of. different things and and one of the. things was vitamin D and she goes I. think you should start supplementing. with vitamin D do you and I said yeah I.
actually take vitamin D every day and. she's well this there's some weird. disconnect so will you send me the brand. or what whatever you take she's like. that's a great brand there's something. wrong happening with with with the way. your body is trying to absorb and digest. that so she has so so there was a bunch. of things in my diet that I was taking. that I was kind of deficient in and so. she started me on this uh digestive en. enzyme which is essentially papaya. enzymes. um and then I got my blood work done six. months later and I was like really great.
on my vitamin D interesting yeah so. there was something about your diet and. the supplements where your body wasn't. accepting the vitamin D yeah well they. usually say vitamin D you should take. with K2 you taking it with k i take both. yeah but my body for some reason just. wasn't getting the vitamin D that's. interesting yeah but most there's a lot. of people that are deficient of vitamin. D yeah oh it's a giant problem and it's. a giant problem well it's really a. hormone vitamin D is very different and. the best way to get it really is from. outside the best way to get it is from.
the Sun but if you don't get it from the. Sun enough like specifically if you live. in a cold climate you really have to. supplement if you don't it's it's just. really bad for your health overall in. all ways your immune system function. something like at one point in time like. 74% of the people that were in the ICU. for coid were deficient in vitamin D. yeah was is crazy yeah I mean I think. that most people just in general are are. deficient of vitamin D yes it's a it's. surprisingly most Surfers are deficient.
in vitamin D and they're outside in the. ocean yeah it's very weird C how is that. possible doesn't make any sense but it's. true what could be causing that I don't. know like what about surfing I have no. idea but it's but it's that's actual. thing is it possible that somehow or. another there's something about the. water i surf I'm in the Sun every single. day deficient vitamin D and you're tan. and I was really deficient vitamin D. that's wild yeah it's pretty weird. that's wild yeah God I wonder what would. that would be be that don't even that. doesn't even make sense I know very.
strange I would think if anybody would. have like super high levels of vitamin D. it' be Surfers yeah right shirt off. shorts on Barefoot your whole body is. like a big old [ __ ] solar panel for. vitamin D I don't know but I definitely. wasn't getting it so I have I have to. supplement that I have to supp. supplement a couple different things one. of the things that I do that huberman. says to do is I spend the early part of. the morning like staring into the sun. yeah I get up in the morning and the. first thing I do is go into the cold. plunge and with the where where my cold.
plunge is set up like when I get in in. the morning the sun is like right there. yeah in the sky when I'm freezing my. dick off so I just lie in this thing and. like stare at the Sun and it's it's an. amazing way to wake up it just fires me. up like right away it just changes my. whole day yeah you know like whatever. sluggishness and weirdness that I have I. get in that thing and it's like yikes. and I'm staring at the sun it's like. like all my levels just go right back up. to normal I'm drawing a blank on the.
term but what is it called when your. body uh sets its time for the day from. the Sun yeah cting Rhythm supposed to be. great for that so it it benefits your. sleep a lot right to to get sunlight. early in the morning yeah supposedly. sets your body's clock your mind's clock. I've never had a problem with sleep yeah. me neither luckily I'm just one of those. guys I suck suck yeah I have friends. that really struggle with sleep my wife. struggles with sleep I I can go to sleep. on a [ __ ] train station floor yeah I. don't get it at all and I I'm not super.
empathetic about it too cuz sometimes. like my wife will be up like doing. something in the middle of the night and. she's like she can't sleep and I'm like. what are you doing like go back to sleep. she's like you think I want to yeah some. people just can't sleep well jao only. sleeps like four hours a night dude. that's not good for you he says he. doesn't need anymore yeah but his brain. does I don't know I don't know maybe not. like for functioning right now but like. long term like you asked Andrew huberman. and that's one of the things you could. do to like help your brain function as.
long as possible and like with. Alzheimer's and all kinds of brain. issues like longterm sleep is a major. factor yeah it's a major factor if they. look at the correlation between like the. amount of hours you sleep and the Ines. of Alzheimer's it seems to be some sort. of a connection huge yeah I don't know. joo's a different kind of animal though. maybe he's definitely seems built. different yeah maybe he just doesn't. need it as I think there's certain. people I think Arnold is one of those. people too SPS [ __ ] I think he said he. only sleeps a few hours a night yeah I. think there's certain people that just.
like they have just different. requirements there there are people that. like physically don't need as much sleep. like everybody needs some sleep but I. think there are people I'm not one of. them I can notice the difference between. six and eight hours I know it's a big. difference six hours I'm like I got to. push there's an extra push whereas eight. hours good to go yeah you know I sleep. six or seven hours a night but I feel. like everybody's different like there's. there must be outliers to to only sleep. 4 hours a night and function well it.
must not affect your hormones as much as. most people because like I feel like. most people if you sleep four hours a. night it's terrible for your hormones. causes a crazy crash in your hormones I. think it really depends on what you're. doing like for some people like if. you're only sleeping four hours but your. job is very engaging and very intense. and there's a lot of adrenaline you're. fired up like at the end of that day. you're going to crash hard but you might. be able to pull it off and keep going.
but if you have like some [ __ ]. paperwork job and you only slept like. four hours you're going to be yawning. and falling asleep you're going to be. barely able to get through it or even. this job there's like the brain the. brain function aspect you know oh here. it is huge after 10 years search. scientists find second short sleep Gene. after a decade of searching UC see San. Francisco scientists who identified the. only human gene known to produce natural. short sleep lifelong nightly sleep that. lasts just four to six hours yet leaves. individuals feeling fully rested have.
discovered a second uh it says before we. identified the first short sleeve sleep. Gene people really excuse me really. weren't thinking about sleep duration. and genetic terms said Ying hu Fu uh PhD. professor of Neurology and member of the. UCSF uh whale we how do you say that. wheel wheel wheel Institute for. neurosciences Fu led the research teams. that discovered both short sleep genes.
the newest of which is described in a. paper published August 28 2019 the. Journal of neuron according to Fu many. scientists once thought that certain. sleep behaviors couldn't be studied. genetically sleep can be difficult to. study using the tools of human genetics. because people use alarms coffee and. pills to alter their natural sleep. cycles she said these sleep disruptions. the thinking went made it difficult for. researchers to distinguish between. people who naturally sleep for less than. 6 hours and those who do so only with. the aid of an artificial stimulant and.
natural short sleepers remained a. mystery until 2009 when a study. concluded conducted rather by foo's team. discovered that people who had inherited. a particular mutation in a gene called. dec2 averag only 6.25 hours of sleep per. night study participants lacking the. mutation averaged. 8.06 hours the. finding provided the first conclusion. evidence that natural short sleep is at. least in some cases genetic but this.
mutation is rare so while it helped. explain some natural short sleepers it. couldn't account for all of them. interesting yeah that is interesting you. I think Joo is just an animal yeah just. must very I think he likes being tired I. think he likes waking up tired and then. pushing through it his he he's probably. so used to suffering on a daily that. that just becomes his Baseline if he's. not suffering he probably doesn't does. feel right yeah right well how many. [ __ ] go to his Instagram how many.
photos are there of his watch at 4:30 in. the morning he's got the worst but best. best Instagram but the worst Instagram. you're just like another watch photo but. you know he's getting after it I know. it's a shitty time x watch scratches all. over he's probably had for a decade look. at that my my uh my go-to um when I'm. when I'm working out Joe is I'll like go. on Spotify and I'll search Joo gogins. Rogan uh Jim motivation and they'll have. like these these like Snippets from. different like YouTube videos of of your.
show when you have someone on you're. getting psyched or goggin saying you're. a [ __ ] if you don't work out hard or. whatever it is and then like Joo like. saying a bunch of stuff and it's like. this hyper motivational stuff and I'll. then I'll listen to that as I'm working. out I swear for sure it's like maybe 30. 40% difference in my output no W like I. work way I work way harder isn't it wild. what inspiration could do like like a. rocking movie yeah I. I'll be working out and so fired up I'll. like I'll send I'll share it and be like.
hey next workout you got to try this. it's like that good it's like. pre-workout but the whole thing yeah. it's it's interesting how mental. something that happens to you that's. inspirational like some sort of mental. fuel it's like a physical drug your your. body responds to it like a physical drug. and you get fired up yeah yeah it's it's. real like music is like that like uh. most of the time I don't work out to. music I just work out I usually watch.
something on TV I'll watch fights or. something on TV but every now and then I. work out with music on and my God like. you got like an extra gear because of. the music you get fired up by a good. song like say if you're doing like. tobata Sprints and the airdine bike of. good song comes on you're like [ __ ] yeah. yeah it just it just gives you extra. energy yeah and it feels so good when. you're done when you really worked hard. I love that feeling it's a drug I mean. inspiration is a drug inspiration. through music inspiration through movies. inspiration through little short.
Instagram Clips yeah it's a drug yeah. it's crazy how what you listen to. through your headphones can completely. change the way your brain's thinking and. just give you more output physically. like it's pretty damn cool it is cool. we're just very fortunate that there's. so many sources of inspiration today. yeah no kiding Infinity yeah it's like. no other time that's ever existed yeah I. save them too I have like a folder on my. Instagram with just [ __ ] awesome. clips yeah that I could just go to it. anytime bks I I love that too yeah so um.
how was the the bow hunting in Hawaii. been it's been it's been good it's been. good it's been good for me I've been um. I've been boat hunting axis deer a lot I. actually um I I I I took the year off uh. hunting elk I saw I saw that you were. hunting elk and and we talked but uh. yeah you had a really exciting Elk elk. season I want to hear about that but. yeah it's been it's been amazing I've. been not home very much but the the last. couple times I was home in Hawaii I I. bow hunted axis deer I went on this last.
trip I killed four deer and um that was. just lots of fun just spent tons of time. mostly spooking deer and missing but uh. four of uh yeah I was the thing about. Axis deer hunting is it's so s it's so. sustainable it's such a great way to get. food because there's no natural. Predators they literally have to be. hunted yeah and there's [ __ ]. thousands of thousands. yeah when we did laai remember when we. had the Dream Team such a good so do it.
again man it was you me CAM Haynes John. Dudley Adam Green Tree Remy Warren Ben. O'Brien oh my God such a good crew what. a crew I know what a great time we had. and then we did that podcast in my hotel. room lot of deer got killed that week. lot of deer yeah that gave a lot of. people a very delusional perspective of. how easy it is to hunt Axis deer in. though yeah the guys told me that they. had 150 Hunters come in after us and one.
of them was successful one everybody. else pulled a rifle it's so hard yeah. it's funny like I always tell people. that I'm like I'm like I'll see a. thousand deer in a day it's not unusual. for me to see a thousand deer in a day. and they're like how how'd you only get. one or how'd you get none like sometimes. I go access to your hunting in Hawaii. for three days straight and not get one. yeah easily yeah easily it is so hard to. get close enough into bow range where. you're trying to get 30 yards away from. from a deer and there's 200 deer in. front of you and a herd I have a video.
of a shot I'll try to find it on my. phone but I have a video of a shot I. took at 80 yards and it's a perfect shot. like this arrow is arcing right towards. the vitals at 80 yards when the arrows. 10 yards away from the deer he like and. he's gone like not there 10 yards like. the arrows going I don't know how fast. it was going by the time it got to him. but on the way there it's going 275 ft a. second and when it got close to to him. he heard it and he was they're evolve. they've evolved to get away from Tigers.
isn't that insane those [ __ ]. are so Twitchy they're J so fast can you. pull up. Instagram yes can you go to Matt Miola. his page one one of my really good. friends that I bow hunt with in Hawaii. how do you spell miolo m e o l a this. guy's one of my favorite human beings by. the way he's a Legend um really good bow. hunter great Surfer one of the best air. Surfers in the world but air what's a. air Surfer like a he's just incredible. at airs like see that air up on the. upper right oh Jesus he's the man um wow. if you scroll down yeah he if you scroll.
down there's one he's so funny this guy. great fisherman great bow hunter uh okay. go go uh go back up in the middle right. there no yeah right in the middle I. think this one if you see it it it'll. show he's taking shots at Axis deer and. you'll see his arrow in in the air you. see it and watch the deer it's going. perfect he's like [ __ ] it let me get out. of here. look at that that was a perfect shot. yeah and a clean Miss at the same time.
yeah it's nuts they're so fast there's. another one right here well when we um. went to Lai I know it's crazy I mean the. arrows are going so fast so fast and the. deer are faster they just duck and run. yeah it's crazy they the M the amount of. perfect shots you've made and completely. missed is crazy yeah it is when you see. them in slowmo and you realize like oh I. don't suck like these things are [ __ ]. Grease Lightning will make you throw. your bow in the air they'll make you buy. a rifle yeah I know so many people who.
have tried to go bow hunting for Access. deer and end up shooting one with a. rifle well with a rifle it's more. ethical cuz the the reality is with a. rifle you're you're going to 100% get a. deer and if you want to just get yeah. and if you want to get that meat that's. the way to do it yeah cuz they can't. Dodge bullets if you're yeah if you're. filling the freezer that's the best way. far far the best way the best way to do. it and I'm not opposed to rifle hunting. I mean not either shot a pig last week. with a rifle it was awesome and after a. long ass bow hunt I just loved like.
having it on a rest looking at that. [ __ ] reticle and just boom and he. stoned him he just dropped dead and now. got you know a two he's a big ass. [ __ ] pig so I have uh I mean who. knows how many pounds of sausage I'm. going to get from this it's going to be. amazing I'm ex they make great sausage. but he was a fat boy I've only killed. one animal with a with a gun really yeah. the first animal I ever. killed little size of wow that's a.
freaking dinosaur dude big ass Pig yeah. looking too wild boar and where I was at. in California they're overwhelmed with. them there's so many we saw hundreds of. pigs every day hard to get close to. though right yes they're. very yeah very smart and but with a. rifle it's like so much easier yeah you. just do is just like squeeze it don't. move boom there's so much less moving. stuff for sure when you're at full draw. and you got your Anchor Point I have a. nose button so I have to touch this.
thing to my nose and I have to make sure. that my finger is like right under my. jawline cuz yeah there's like a lot of. [ __ ] going on that has to be my elbow. make sure it's up in the air and not. like this you know there's like so many. like you have to like I have to think. the bubble has to be leveled make sure. the housing is centered in the peep site. and you're going through all this while. you're in this like high pressure. situation with this [ __ ] massive elk. of a lifetime is standing in front of. you at 50 yards and then you got to put.
the pin on its vitals then your nerves. are going so you got to make sure you're. centering that pin and make sure that. pin's not moving too much and then the. shot breaks perfect but when it does. happen and you hear that Quack and then. the elk runs off and in this case in. California my elk died in literally 10. seconds yeah it was the the fastest I've. ever had an elk D it was a perfect. quartering away shot so it shot through. the ribs like little back so you know. you know quartering away shot what that. means folks is instead of the animal.
standing completely sideways it's. slightly facing away so it's looking. away from you slightly which is actually. a much better shot because then you're. going through like three and 1 half four. feet of body cavity with a Broadhead. yeah opens up the vitals yeah and the. the animal died almost instantly it ran. for 80 yards like as much as it could. before it just died Di and it died. instantly so so so uh let me ask you. this so I'm totally not opposed to rifle.
hunting at all I think rifles are great. for filling the freezer and totally. ethical hunting but for for you that. rifle hunts sometimes and bow hunts. sometimes the feeling of making the. perfect archery shot on a bull elk and. the feeling of seeing that Arrow go. through the air and hit it exactly where. you aimed and that elk going down in 10. seconds it's a different feeling right. it's way better yeah it's much much much. much much more difficult because uh you. can have a very ethical shot on a deer.
with a rifle at 200 yards where the deer. might not have any idea you're even. there so if you especially if you're. prone so if you have a Pack and you rest. your rifle on the pack and you're lying. down in your. stomach and you breathe out and relax. that bullet is flying so straight if. your your rifle is zeroed and you know. you look at the retical and you get it. you get those crosshairs perfect on the. vitals that's a dead deer yeah 100% yeah. whereas with bow hunting you've got wind.
you've got all sorts of [ __ ] going on. and you have to get so close that you're. within the animal senses like when I. crept up on this elk that I shot last. week I wore two pairs of wool socks I. took my shoes off so I could creep in. because he was bedded and it was so damn. cool it was so cool cuz it was the. perfect opportunity because he was. bedded and he was looking away from me I. was like oh he's dead he's dead I just. have to do this the right way and so I. started out at like 110 yards and I.
crept in very slowly the final 60 yards. and it took because there was like a. bunch of [ __ ] in the way I had to get to. 50 and I got to 60 I was like I like it. but I don't like these branches and [ __ ]. I got to get to the right which is like. another 10 yards it took me like another. 10 minutes just nice and slow but when I. got to 50 and he was still bed I'm like. oh he's dead I just have to wait for him. to stand up and then eventually he got. up stretched his legs out and whack were. you on your knees or standing up. standing yeah I was standing in the tree.
there's actually a video of it it's on. my Instagram very cool the cool pull. that video up CU it's dope CU you see. how good the origin camo is MHM we're. working with uh origin now and origin is. jao's company and uh cam hannes me and. Kip folks who started Under Armour. working for that's me right up there. yeah so look how well I blend in and and. you can actually hear it play give give. the volume so you could hear the whole. thing which is for a bow hunter listen. to this sweet shot listen to this yeah.
that's what you want to hear yeah great. noise right there it's the best yeah but. it's also interesting like at 50 yards. listen to. this there's like half a second though. yeah definitely that's enough time like. for an axis deer that [ __ ] would. be gone gone hard to imagine but the elk. he had no idea what that was he didn't. even look he just heard the you mean I. mean he just the slap into his body and. he was gone he was gone in 10 seconds. that's the other difference too like gun.
gun hunting and um and bow hunting like. so it's so different like I guess like. there's two two two super big things. that I can think of are super different. is like one is if that if that elk was. behind some grass or brush you can still. shoot yes if you aim well it's going to. go right through that [ __ ] with a with a. when an arrow no there's no chance and. then the other thing is if if you're. going archery hunting for or axis de or. something like that you got to practice. a lot a lot with a gun if that thing is.
zeroed in yeah and you shot a gun before. the animal's dead I hadn't shot a rifle. in over a year and I shot that pig. imagine doing that with a bow and going. bow hunting I would never do it I would. never do it I would never do it I would. never even think that's a huge. difference I would never even consider. doing it yeah I when unethical right for. sure and so in Texas it was 105 degrees. in the summer and I was outside in the. summer every day for 3 hours practicing. and so what I do is I bring a 64 o hydr. flask and I fill it up with water and. liquid IV and IID just be drinking.
electrolytes all day and just shooting. yeah and that was the way that I did it. I was like I would come in and I would. be drenched like I just jumped in the. pool but that's what you have to do yeah. you have to I mean I have a 40 yard. range indoors here yeah which is great. amazing but it's not enough yeah I I. need to pract and I I don't shoot things. at a really long distance but I practice. I'll practice at 100 and the reason I. practice at oh Jesus.
what well the reason I practice at 100. is not to shoot something at 100 it's. because when I get to 50 I've got it 50. yards to me is an easy shot that's what. they say right you want to you want to. practice it twice the distance that that. is your effective range yeah because. when you get nervous it all depended. upon how calm you can stay right and one. of the things is certain people like. yourself are very good at being calm in. High Press situations because you've. done so many High Press things you know. when you're big wave surfing I've got to.
imagine I've seen some of the [ __ ]. waves you ride that is got to be a crazy. rush and you got to keep your [ __ ]. together and you're balancing yourself. out on the forces of nature of millions. of pounds of water that's working at an. insane rate there's insane forces and. you got to keep your [ __ ] together while. you're on that so I it makes sense to me. why so many Surfers get into bow hunting. because it's another way that you can. kind of stay calm in an insanely.
pressure field situation now if you're a. regular guy who maybe like played. baseball in high school or something. like that you don't have any real. pressure situations triggering baseball. players around the world baseball's. baseball's hard when you're at the plate. it's a little bit you're like just a. baseball player or something you have no. high pressure situation in high school I. said in high school just kidding I mean. a little bit there's a little bit buting. your balls people are just so uh. microaggression out these days yeah.
listen if you like baseball good for you. but the point is it's like if you're a. guy who just has an office job and. you're you know there's a little bit of. pressure and work or stress yeah there's. a giant difference between managing your. physical body under the demands of. extreme pressure for sure that's what I. like I like scary [ __ ] I like to do. things that scare the [ __ ] out of me. that's that's why I liked fighting. that's why I like Jiu-Jitsu that's why I. like comedy I like things that are. nerve-wracking I enjoy it I don't know.
why I enjoy when it's over I enjoy. success I enjoy no doubt pulling it off. was a huge challenge yeah the the the. battle to overcome fear or pressure yes. in the moment is huge and that's why I. love bow hunting that's why I love it. that moment when there's that elk and. you know that this is your time this is. your window and every single thing that. you've done in the last six months every. shot that you've taken every Target. you've worn out is just critical on that. specific moment and you have to keep. mentally you know calm like you said and. in the zone and you see that Arrow hit.
exactly where you aimed yes in that. pressure cooker situation is there's. nothing like it and I never thought I'd. find something like that besides like. surfing really big waves and now I have. it's incredible well a lot of Fighters. say that too and a lot of athletes like. Derrick Wolf who played for the NFL he. he's found a a great relief and a great. discipline in bow hunting and he's like. really dived full into it but it's like. that that's a thing for a lot of folks a. lot of veterans that return back that's. a thing that really helps them like like.
assimilate and just find some new thing. that's like this discipline that they. can high pressure and also for me when. I'm sitting down and I'm eating a meal. and I'm I'm cooking a meal for my family. and we're all sitting there eating like. this is something that I got myself I. harvested this myself and there so so. there's a an intense connection with. your food and it's the best meat in the. world the best protein in the world it's. the best for you I love I love seeing it. on your I I really love seeing it on. your Instagram that you eat your wild.
game all the time I actually know. Hunters that like especially when I. first started hunting it was kind of. rare like amongst my hunting friend. group to actually make their own game it. just they just love bow hunting but it. wasn't like they it was like like the. Meat part was a huge part of it like my. wife eats AIS steer twice a day she eats. it at lunch and she eats it at dinner. almost every day it's kind of wild even. when I'm not even home she cooks it from. my my kids well it's delicious yeah it's. insane and like when like when I first.
started hunting she wasn't super into it. and now that she's eats it every day she. just doesn't want to eat anything else. which is really cool it's so good for. you it's the most nutrient-dense food in. the world and axis deer has a amazing. flavor it's so interesting it's almost. sweet yeah you know axis deer has got. just like it's this beautiful like. amazing renewable resource especially. where you live. that you literally have to kill them. they have to there's no Predators unless.
you want to bring Tigers to Lai like. like that's what you wouldd have to. bring and people will argue with that. but if the problem is in Hawaii it's. there's there's there the deer were. introduced there's native Forest there's. native birds they have a huge impact on. the land and then if you just let them. go their numbers get so big and then. there's a drought like in a place like. Lai all of a sudden it won't rain for 6. months and the feed goes away and then. you have 10,000 deer with no food and. what happens is they die these horrible.
miserable deaths yeah so you have to. keep those numbers in check that way. when there is a drought they still all. live yeah well they're much healthier. that way also it provides very cheap. meat to these people that live there. that it's like the most incredible. resource for them I me you go to a you. go to Leni the Four Seasons lenai is. excellent it's it's such a good Resort. and it's so great that you could stay at. the four season and then go bow hunting. incredible but they have like axis. sliders that they sell what is that farm. what is that restaurant that's there.
Malibu Farms is that what it is I don't. know I forget what it isai yeah oh my. God Four Seasons they have AIS sliders. oh they're so [ __ ] good they're so. good axis is so it's such a fantastic. meat but if I had to pick one it's elk. that's my favorite meat by far maybe. it's because of the experience and maybe. the the meat is absolutely delicious too. but and I can cook it so many different. ways I make elk stew I cook sausages I I. have some of it turn into jerky it's.
like I eat it all the time when's the. last time you made yourself an elk steak. and you got halfway through you weren't. hungry enough for the rest and just. threw the rest in the trash zero times. yeah it always goes in the fridge that's. pretty cool right yeah but think of all. the people who eat half a steak right. and then just like send it back in in. the restaurant I'm good I'm done yeah. they don't even think that that's an. animal connection very very different. when you've hunted it yourself you know. my kids eat it Everybody Eats it and I. just think it makes you healthier it's. just better for you it's so nutrient. dense and you feel like you can run.
through a brick wall and you eat that I. know it's it looks so different too when. you look at it it's like this dark red. meat like red gold yeah you know I love. it when you get really really fit and. people are like bro what are you. eating and I'm like just deer meat yeah. that's the bad and it's true like. literally that's pretty much all I eat. you know what I mean it's very very very. good for yeah it's really it really is. good if you're trying to get fit and. you're working out and you're trying to. eat really really good nutritious food.
if you're eating venison man yeah crazy. results and if you're a person that. doesn't have the patience for bow. hunting or it doesn't appeal to you get. a rifle get a rifle oh yeah go to Maui. go to Lai you can shoot three or four. deer or Texas yeah or Texas there's a. lot of them in Texas I in Texas it's a. little weirder because a lot of these. places are these high high fence places. where these animals are essentially in a. park so it's a different thing that's. not my type of hunting but if you're. just going for the meat right like if.
you're going for the meat I don't care. sh shoot him in a fence don't shoot him. in a fence doesn't even matter you know. what I mean if you're trying to feel the. freezer I go to one of the things that I. I also find is that you really need. practice like you you don't want your. first shot of the year on a live animal. to be an elk that's like a 350 elk in. Utah that's want going through the wood. you got a small Gap to shoot it you're. yeah you really would need reps and pigs. provide the best reps in Texas most. definitely they have to kill them. they're [ __ ] everywhere plague.
there's a a friend of mine who was a. friend of mine my friend Tyler shout out. to Archery Country best bow shop in the. world it's out here in Austin we go to. uh there's a a hunting lease that he has. and we go out there and it's [ __ ]. swarming with pigs yeah and you know you. can practice on pigs you get this. amazing meat from those pigs and you you. can get those shots in which I think are. critical there's so many bases you have. to cover if you want to be a successful. bow hunter there's and one of things I. should shout out is Joel Turner cuz this.
uh shot IQ system that Joel Turner has. developed he's he was um he's a sniper. and he worked with a SWAT teams and he. developed he he was trying to figure out. like what is it about these high. pressure situations that cause people to. Flinch and panic and get Target panic. and [ __ ] up shots and and especially in. a hostage situation like with a sniper. it's insanely important that you keep. your [ __ ] together because you might. have to make a head shot on someone who.
has a knife to a hostage you can't mess. that up you can't mess that up and so. Joel researched what happens to the mind. and what what are closed loop and open. loop systems an open loop system is like. when you're swinging a bat at a ball so. like you can't stop it you know you're. you're swinging that bat and once you. initiate that Mo movement it's it's. going it's going closed loop system is. at any time you can stop so during the.
process of a shot you are well aware of. what you're not just like hammering the. trigger and flinching and panicking what. you're doing is going through this very. specific shot process I have things that. I say to myself in my mind while it's. going on I keep talking to myself so I'm. never flinching and panicking and. freaking out I stay in my shot process. and because of joy. I've been much much better at like. keeping my [ __ ] together during those. those and I've been doing that for about.
5 years now is that a book or a podcast. or something it's got a website it's. what is it called shot iq.com and it's. just information that you consume and. then you practice it well he breaks it. down to you one of the things that he. makes is he like video based the stuff. he does video based I have to check that. out he talks about he's and he's he's. thoroughly researched this I mean he he. keeps improving it and and and updating. it but I know like worldclass archers. like Levi Morgan who use it who's like.
literally the greatest Archer of all. time he uses it and these guys use it in. order to have a process that you utilize. while you're in the middle of a shot to. keep talking to yourself cam Haynes. developed his own process on his own and. didn't necessarily know that that's what. he was doing he just knew what was best. for him and what he does is he puts the. pin on the animal and then he says to to. himself keep the pin on them keep the. pin on him keep the pin on them keep the.
pin on them Boom the shot break. interesting yeah but he's going through. it in his mind like when he's at full. drawn an animal he's like keep the pin. on him keep the pin on him and the shot. breaks whereas some people like they see. the and they just [ __ ] Flinch and. then they they [ __ ] hit him in the. antlers they just so many people like. freak out in that moment and yeah and. having a process I think the biggest. thing is just even if your process isn't. perfect having a process to think about. instead of the instead of thinking about. the pressure start thinking about that.
moment when you're just sitting there at. full draw and you're like hey pin on the. animal get my anchor really good look at. the bubble okay first pin for sure or. third pin for sure he's at 50 it's a. third pin or whatever it is having that. process and then High elbow pull through. pull through the shot and then like you. know and follow the eror yeah follow. through have yeah it's I think just. having that process and like really. talking to yourself in that in that. pressure cooker moment is is the way for. sure Remy has an interesting thing he. says too Remy says Be The Arrow oh.
really yeah which I like I Incorporated. that too I like that this idea of be the. arrow like you you you are literally. thinking you are the arrow you know. where you want that Arrow to go you're. concentrating on that be the arrow and. then when he releases that shot he's. like following it he like is the arrow. and then whack and you know very few. people are more successful than Remy one. of one of my one of my bow hunting. mentors uh Jeff he used to take me bow.
hunting when I was when I was a lot. younger and he goes he goes you know. what I used to always tell myself when I. was at full draw right before the arrow. broke he said I would look at the animal. the last thing I would do is say you're. gonna [ __ ] die oo that's intense yeah. and it sounds kind of messed up there's. all these non-hunters listening to this. like w that's really messed up but he. goes like think about it like. psychologically that's what you're doing. in that moment and you got to like. really Embrace that instead of hoping. instead of coming from a perspective of. Hope like I hope that Arrow gets there.
in the right spot I hope I don't mess. this up it's like it's like that. confirmation in your mind telling. yourself that this is what you're doing. here this is the intention the Arrow's. going to go there and that's what's. going to happen and believing instead of. hoping you know that's the the. difference but the like the way he he. said it was was interesting but he's. like it's powerful honestly he's like. he's like so having a process and being. super confident that that all the work. is paying off in in the moment you're. going to make that shot is key yeah it. is a discipline and if you want to take. this journey you have to understand it.
is it's a discipline and it requires. work it requires a lot of work and a lot. of thinking and a lot it's going to be a. lot of pressure but that's what I like. about it yeah and and again at the end. the end result is it's so rewarding yeah. isn't it crazy I don't know if this. going to take us down a rabbit hole but. I like rabbit holes I was just tripping. the fact that we're here in your studio. talking about Bohan hunting and. food and there's a war there's like. people putting missiles together into a. machine like a some launcher thing right.
now. and Israel is about to Gaza they're. they're talking about a ground invasion. of Gaza and they're preparing for it. that this is so gnarly this is. terrifying it's it's so terrifying. because it's we're so close to World War. II we're so close it's no joke man it's. really that's really feels like that's. what's happening it is happening it. scares the [ __ ] [ __ ] out of me yeah. it does me too and someone from the. government was just having some sort of.
a press conference where they're saying. you know we are at War and war is messy. and this I'm like whoa whoa whoa whoa. shouldn't we be doing everything we can. to avoid this every single possible. thing that we can to avoid this and it. doesn't seem like they look ahead they. just go here's what we got to do right. here's what we have to do like I I get. it I get it's like what what what. happened on October 7th was it yeah is. horrible absolute atrocity and like.
barbaric and absolutely terrible and I I. get it you H you have to retaliate you. have to do what you got to. do but how do you do that like like of. course you want to get rid of Hamas that. sounds great you know what I mean I. completely support that I think. everybody supports that for the most. part but how do you do that without so. much collateral damage is ridiculous and. then even more important than that is. fast forward 5 years from now what. happens like what are the repercussions. yeah especially around that whole area.
with all those Arab countries yeah and. we're backing that we're backing them. killing all these people there and we're. also backing Ukraine against Russia and. now it's looked like we're going to back. Taiwan we just sent an aid an aid an aid. package at Taiwan billions of dollars to. Taiwan it's like we're opposing all. these like you know what I mean yeah. we're opposing China Russia and now. these Arab countries yeah it's scary man. I'm not the person to talk politics but. that I mean or you know you know uh.
International military strategy but I. just watching the news and trying not to. and just try and i' it's funny because I. I. uh I mean I've always known about Israel. and Palestine just from what I hear on. the news and like just sort of hearing. like kind of understanding on the most. surface level and it wasn't until now. Age 5 where I was actually I've been. watching like listening to podcasts. watching documentaries trying to like. educate myself and like figure out what.
this conflict how it came to be what the. history was and it's the more I try to. learn about it the more complicated it. seems yeah it's terrifying yeah it's. terrifying and the consequences for all. of us are so grave because if it does go. completely sideways if someone goes. nuclear we're [ __ ] we're [ __ ] the. world's [ __ ] I mean we're getting. knocked back into the Stone Age if we're. Lu lucky if we're lucky if we're not. lucky the whole human race gets wiped. out and all it takes is one person to go.
Rogue yeah and like you saw the like. for for Hamas to do what they did in. Israel that they that was totally. strategic they didn't do it they didn't. like do do all that barbaric [ __ ] in. that way like just to prove a point it. was super like they wanted a crazy. emotional response they were trying to. escalate the situation obviously right. like you would never do that with that.
going what is this going to do it's. obviously they're going to full on air. strikes you know ground Invasion it's. pretty obvious that that's going to. happen yeah so they basically wanted. that to happen they wanted like um I. listened to the Coleman Hughes podcast. you just had Coleman on the show a. couple days ago whatever that was the. way he broke that down how he simplified. everything and like he made so much. sense out of it. but I just can't stop thinking about the. repercussions of retaliation and.
escalation and getting every single. other country involved and just it's. just wild when it gets me as late at. night when I'm alone um this was even. before the Hamas Invasion um it was just. thinking about Ukraine and Russia I. would be at home and you know just go. through the the news feed and read some. stories and then everyone in my house be. asleep and I'd be awake and I just going. [ __ ] is this the last days of normal.
civilization yeah because every movie. where you know we we Ascend into the. apocalypse or descend into the. apocalypse that's how it starts it's. like you know there's normal life. dropping your kids off at school bye. honey I love you and then hours later. Sirens bombs Powers off no water no food. people are struggling like it's just. like if if nuclear bombs start going off.
the world will be unrecognizable there. will be we will be right back to. barbaric Stone Age monsters in a matter. of months matter of weeks days even. there's no power no food no. nothing you know there's the [ __ ]. Border's been invaded by hundreds of. thousands of illegals how many how many. of them are militants how many of them. have snuck in across the border and are. forming Terror cells we don't know Ian. that's the giant fear that's that's for.
sure happening for sure there's no doubt. for sure I I I read this thing that. there's like six to 10 million people. that came across the southern Border in. the last four to five years that's as. many people that live in New York City. and then like a crazy increase in people. coming across the northern border yeah. it's nuts like and I see it I I've been. in California a lot the last few months. it's insane. how many more people are just obviously. all of a sudden just appearing like. getting dropped off on like street.
corners with buses literally just in the. middle of nowhere they literally just. get off the off the bus with a cell. phone well look at New York City when. Coleman was explaining how New York City. literally has a mandate to house its. homeless yeah and that was supposed to. be the people that lived there that were. down on their luck and now it's people. that have come in from other cities and. or other countries rather illegally and. they're trying to make it so that those. people can vote and you see what they're. doing with people from Venezuela crazy. they're sending people back from. Venezuela only from Venezuela yeah.
because Venezuela opposes socialism so. they're not going to vote Democratic. yeah they don't want those people that's. crazy this [ __ ] wild it's crazy how. it's so like when you start thinking. about it like that it that sounds like a. conspiracy theory but it's like totally. political all these moves 100% yeah. they're they're literally importing. Democratic voters they think by allowing. the borders to be poorest and by giving. people Aid and giving people housing. that you're essentially guaranteeing. that if you can rig it so that those. people are allowed to vote those people.
are going to vote Democratic and if you. could say that oh voter ID is racist. like what voter ID is racist that's. crazy that that's they think that it's. but it's and they don't think that they. don't think that they know that that's. not true it's horeshit it's all. political horeshit but that's. unfortunately the level of discourse. that we have today especially with all. the virtue signaling on social media and. all the people clam in to prove that. they're the most Progressive and the. most open-minded and Equitable and we're. in we're all down for inclusivity and.
like yeah BR there's going to be. repercussions to all that for sure I. mean you see that you see the videos in. New York City and Chicago and these. places where they's dropping all these. people off they'll like video 500 people. in a row and they'll be like two women. and almost everyone's like between 20. and 30 years old it's all military age. dudes yeah like what do you think going. to happen 5 years from now right with. like 10 million illegal immigrants here. also if you're importing people that.
have come from horrible crime ravaged. parts of the world that's what they grew. up with that's what they're accustomed. to and if you also have a defunding of. the police and you also have a a. complete disrespect for law enforcement. in this country you're going to it's a. recipe for disaster well and think of it. is so crazy because everybody has a. smartphone these days even in you know. pretty much every country people have. smartphone and and access to the. internet there's 8 billion people on the. planet the US has an. incredible like like the lifestyle like.
the normal lifestyle in America is crazy. like a joke how good it is like people. got it so good in this country it's. insane eight billion people are looking. at that with social media yeah and. they're seeing on the news thousands and. thousands and thousands of people. walking across straight into the US and. getting all these incredible things in. return for doing it like I would be. wanting to come here too if I was from. some [ __ ] up country 100% blame them. at all I don't even blame I would 100%.
be one of those people making their way. across if I lived in Guatemala or. wherever all I had to do was like hike. for a couple of weeks and I could be in. America and get a landscaping job and. feed my family and you get a bus ticket. to freaking Tijana or wherever to and. then just walk across the border sweet. it's crazy yeah and then I feel like. nobody agrees that having a secure. border is a is a is a is a bad idea I. think everyone thinks a secure border is. a good idea well it became a political. talking point during the Trump. administration because people wanted to.
label Trump as racist and they wanted to. label the wall as racist but meanwhile. Obama so dumb Obama was talking about. that Obama was talking about that in. 2013 that we have to secure our borders. and I was reading that it would cost. between four and six billion to finish. the wall and we sent hundred billion. dollar to Ukraine we accidentally over. sent 6 billion to Ukraine that's enough. to finish the wall and secure the Border. like that's pretty wild well they need. more than that really because people. climb that wall well you got drones and. you all these they need reinforcements.
they need patrols they need they need uh. law enforcement that's what they need. they need border enforcement yeah they. just they're they're terribly under Mann. and everybody that I know like my. military friends that have gone down. there and visit like Tim Kennedy is. always telling me you got to go down. there you should just go see what's. happening and he was telling me this two. years ago he was like two years ago it's. [ __ ] nuts. and now it's even worse it's C and I. feel like like the problems are like. slowly than suddenly with that type of. thing where like you don't really.
realize it's like the you know like in. New York they're like it's a sanctuary. City everybody's welcome in New York. City just come here and then like next. you know every single immigrant that. that that went there was getting like. a$3 to $500 uh hotel room each night and. everybody thought that was a good idea. it's just like that's that's what I mean. like slowly then suddenly like you don't. really see the problems until it's. overwhelming well the Roosevelt Hotel in. New York City is no longer a hotel I. stayed there before the Roosevelt the. last time I was really in New York City.
I state of the Roosevelt the Roosevelt. Hotel is now a complete a housing center. for migrants oh man have you see if you. can find videos of the Roosevelt Hotel. today because the the restaurant's no. longer a restaurant the the hotel's no. longer a hotel it's 100% for migrants. and it's overwhelmed and it's more than. to capacity and New York City from most. people I talk to who live there is a. [ __ ] show now it's much more of a [ __ ]. show than it this is this is the. Roosevelt. Hotel Inside Man tattan Hotel there is.
the new Ellis Island it's crazy man it's. crazy yeah I was just in Tiana for a. week. Joe very way fewer homeless people in. Tiana way fewer than than in America. than in California no fentanyl zombies. all over the street. it's the weirdest thing I went to I went. to TJ thinking it was going to be like. super dangerous I had all these. assumptions I felt totally safe I ate.
like five star restaurants right across. the the like right across the street. from where I was staying I was staying. at the Hyatt killer hotel right across. the street like three incredible. restaurants um felt completely safe and. like when I'm in California there are. zombies everywhere dude the fentanyl. problem is so out of control it's yeah. insane yeah we're [ __ ] we're [ __ ]. did you see this about. recently Mexico Calona cartel's message. to members stop making fenel or die good.
W crime group yields to intensifying US. law enforcement pressure and is. kidnapping or killing producers who defy. its ban on trafficking the opioid good. interesting good I'm with them I wonder. why well I mean it's [ __ ] up their. business their business is selling. cocaine and then these guys make fenel. and they cut the cocaine with fenel and. people are dying and then law. enforcement pressure starts ramping up. and then what they're really worried. about is an invasion the military. decides to go after the cartel the. cartels are [ __ ] right I mean they.
start air striking cartels with. jets yeah that's a wrap yeah crazy how. crazy is that how the how like the. fentanyl these days is mixed with Tran. or it's Tran have you heard of that. what's. Tran I can't believe you haven't heard. of this Tran with a Q so Tran is. fentanyl mixed with a horse horse. tranquilizer so the horse tranquilizer. makes the fentanyl last much longer is. my understanding Jam's probably looking. it up right now but the the Tran is a. horse tranquilizer they mix it with. fentanyl I think to make it last longer.
and make it more powerful and the [ __ ]. up thing is it's so toxic they they all. inject it it's so toxic that it it uh. it's so poisonous in your body that your. that that your body's trying to get rid. of it so it creates these massive sores. where the the drug is trying to get out. I saw that in Russia yeah and people no. it's here now dude big time it's people. are getting sepsis and having to get. their their their limbs amputated it's. really really n go back to that article. that you were just posting da like.
message about XY xylazine is making the. deadliest drug threat in our country. that our country has ever faced fenel. even deadlier said administrator milram. milram uh DEA sees xylazine and Fentanyl. mixtures in 48 of 50 states the DEA. laboratory system is reporting that in. 2022 apparently approximately rather 23%. of feny powder and 7% of feny pills. seized by the DEA contain.
xylazine [ __ ] yeah I have a weird um I. don't know if obsession is the right. word but I like watching like drug. documentaries and like interviews with. like drug addicts and like you know uh. DEA agents like all that kind of stuff. is just kind of fascinating to me. because I don't have a drug problem and. it's just interesting to me how people. like will choose to go down that road. and over and even though it just seems. like the worst thing ever but I the like. the addicts when they talk about being. on fenel they'll choose the xylazine now.
with the fentanyl because it's much. better and they know they're going to. die from it like really soon and they. keep choosing it it's pretty wild and if. you're a heroin addict you can't even. find heroin these days you can't get. heroin it's all fentanyl really yeah. I've had a few different friends die. from fantinel um they thought they were. buying a like a baggie of cocaine and. partying yeah and just drop dead yeah. that that happened to a group of. comedians in La.
recently it's so messed up [ __ ]. horrible and the it's the number one. killer I think of of people in like it's. 18 to 49 something nuts like that it's. like 100,000 people a year dying of. overdoses what do you think about. parents sending test kits with their. with kids to go to parties so they can. test the drugs well it's certainly. better than not testing it and taking it. obviously the best thing would be to. don't take any drugs but you know.
especially when kids are drinking you're. you're [ __ ] all your judgment goes. out the window you're not thinking. straight you're drunk and then someone. offers Coke and there's peer pressure. and you're like I'll try it and then. next thing you go you're dead you know. if if there was a method of testing and. I know they use that a lot at Raves that. was one of the issues at Raves was that. people were buying MDMA and that was. laced with fence and wind up overdosing. with that yeah that's [ __ ] scary [ __ ].
man also uh parents are sending their. kids naron or Naran Naran to to to help. them survive an overdose well and to. help other people yeah um I heard a lot. of kids in Portland are being trained. and sending their kids to school with. Narcan and they're trained to give. Narcan to heroin addicts or to fentel. addicts um. which is crazy that's the other thing. they say in those documentaries they. they always interview the addicts and. they say how many times have you over or. they they say have you ODed before and.
they're all like yeah of course and. they're how many times and they all say. countless they don't know imagine oding. so many times where you literally do not. know how many times it's been and then. going straight back and getting high. again like with a needle yeah it's nuts. it's a it's a real crisis yeah it really. is a crisis I I mean you have kids I. have kids so these are things that are. like totally on the front burner for me. like to me I'm never sending my kids to. a party with with uh test kits that's.
not like that's I feel like talking to. them from a super young. age totally having super transparent. heart-to-heart talks with them about. friends that I've had that thought they. were getting one drug and it was laced. with this [ __ ] that is completely deadly. and dropping dead just drugs are. different man they're not how it was. when we were kids when we were kids like. people would experiment it was. completely normal like I feel like those. days are over in some some aspects you. know for sure well the real problem and.
this is a very uncomfortable discussion. but the real problem is that drug. prohibition has made criminals the only. source of drugs and you have no idea. what you're getting and that's the. problem and if you make drugs legal all. drugs. legal you're going to have a bunch of. people that are doing drugs that. wouldn't do drugs if they were illegal. so you have that problem and so how do. you mitigate that how long does it take. for the dust settles and life normalizes. because if you think about the.
prohibition in the United States. prohibition of alcohol in the United. States propped up the mob everybody. knows that it's a fact it's widely. openly discussed the only people that. were selling the alcohol were the people. that were criminals they made a shitload. of money they they amassed massive power. because of that and they they you know. they used it they used it to control. cities they and and until they got. infiltrated and the mob got broken up. they they they for a long time they reap.
the rewards of the power that they. started to develop during prohibition. and that's exactly what you're seeing. with the cartels the reason why the. cartels have so much power is because. there's so much demand for illegal drugs. in the United States and that's not. going away well it's not going away no. people have always wanted to do drugs. there's always going to be a certain. lost segment of our population that. wants Escape reality with some [ __ ]. hardcore [ __ ] that puts them in a trance. yeah well they're finding it yeah if. they want that it's everywhere what is.
Hawaii's problems what is like uh like. on the big island what are their main uh. drug problems I mean it's been meth for. the most part for like the last 20 years. that's taken a toll there's no doubt. about it meth meth has been like. probably the biggest problem but now. it's turning into. fentel now it's turning into fentel one. of one of the little girls and my. daughter's circle of friends was on. Instagram live this is like two years. ago a girl was like 12 years old she was. like on Instagram live no one was home. at her house and she went in her mom's.
medicine cabinet and she found a little. baggie of white powder oh God and. chopped it up in a line uh on Instagram. live she just had her friends or. whatever like her 10 15 friends that. follow her like a little girl and was. like Jeremy and she snorted it it was. pure fentanyl oh God and it turns out. her mom was selling it that was on the. big island and my my daughter's little. circle of. friends and she died that's happening. everywhere man that's my little tiny. town that I feel is like a little town.
like a little farm town that grows. coffee and like that's where you surf. and hang out it's like super mellow but. somehow that's really happening like. it's it's that th those drugs have. infiltrated like every last. little corner of our country it's wild. man wild it is wild and the alternative. doesn't seem appealing either the. alternative of making herir heroin and. cocaine legal at stores that scares the. [ __ ] out of me too yeah it's weird that. it's like it's like Regional like like.
it's really bad in Canada horrible the. drug like drug epidemic like I was in. um not Toronto what's the other giant. City in the west coast Vancouver. Vancouver holy crap yeah thousands and. thousands and thousands of homeless. people homeless uh fentanyl zombies all. over these like big city blocks like. thousands of them like you know slumped. over have you seen that the when they. get slumped over that's the Tran that's.
a tranquilizer thing so they it's super. high and they're tranquilizer so they. basically are like like you know they. don't they don't fall but they like. swing but I feel like in in Canada it's. huge in the US it's huge but I just was. I was in France and Spain none of that. yeah none of that. well they didn't have the same opioid. crisis that we had caused by the Sackler. family and what they did with the. oxycotton pills where they just.
made you know who knows how many. hundreds of thousands of people addicts. in this country crazy if not Millions I. mean how many millions of lives are. ruined because not just the people that. R but the their families everything gets. devastated everything gets ruined the. most fascinating part I think about that. series was uh I there was so many. fascinating things about that that. series but there was a window of time. where no one. knew what it was what oxyc conton was no.
one knew yeah just had his name and it. made you feel good and it like took your. pain away and took you out of whatever. your stress you were feeling now now we. know about it like there's kind of no. excuse now for like the kids coming up. that are educated like hey opioids. they're [ __ ] deadly you know. Oxycontin all these opio like any of. these op op opioids are like highly. addictive they're pretty much all going. to kill you or lead you down this. horrible road to something horrible but. there was a window of time where. literally no one knew what that stuff.
was I remember it went through my whole. not my whole but a group of my friends. all got hooked on that junk like right. away when no one knew what oxy conton. was yeah well that that documentary that. uh series the Netflix series painkiller. is absolutely terrifying because it. shows you how corrupt the system is and. how they were able to prescribe this and. make this thing and pass it where it can. be prescribed to people where when we. were kids when I was a kid no one did. heroin it wasn't like an issue like if.
someone was doing heroin that guy's off. the rails like oh you hear Mike's doing. heroin jees like Mike's gone you would. think that guy's gone totally he's. suicidal he's just [ __ ] shooting up. like I knew a couple comedians that did. heroin and I was like oh my God and they. wind up dying the the the two that I. know that I was pretty aware of they. wind up dying from heroin and it's just. heroin was rare yeah and then and a big. Choice yeah it was a big Choice Big. Choice yeah but now it's just and.
doctors were prescribing it thousands. and thousands and thousands of doctors. were prescribing it yeah cuz it was. believed to be not addictive and safe. yeah well where else have we heard that. that's safe and effective yeah Jee D I. know we never learned we never learned. well some people learn but it's it's so. difficult to be completely informed and. the problem also is that young people. they they make bad decisions they're. young they don't have a lot of life. experience you know and they think.
they're just going to party and other. people are partying it's no big deal. I'll just have fun yeah there's no doubt. and I think that oxy conton thing was. the at least in my lifetime was the. first time I started seeing people start. to distrust. doctors do you know what I'm saying yeah. like they were starting look at doctors. like especially after those. documentaries came out in those docky. series what was the other one called uh. dopi yeah cuz doctors were like all of a. sudden on board with this whole.
prescription thing and prescri. overprescribing like crazy and like. buying it hook line and sink or whatever. those farmer Farmer companies were. telling them and then that and then with. the whole coid thing it just accelerated. that whole distrust of I feel like it's. that's a really sad thing yeah when I. was a kid you you just trusted your your. doctors implicitly I would call the. doctor my my personal doctor and ask him. anything and believe anything they said. these days if I have a broken arm I'm. going to go to the doctor if I have a.
you know if I if I have something super. specific I'll go to the doctor. but it's crazy feel like it's different. it's changed now doctors that are. captured by a system and doctors are. they're essentially rule followers you. know it's there's a very rigid system. that like the FDA forbade them from. prescribing in ior mechon during Co. which is wild wild because now it's. legal to prescribe yeah just like now. they they allowed it to prescribe and. there's there's I don't know who's right.
or who's wrong but there's a lot of. randomized control trials that show that. it's effective so like what the [ __ ] is. that all about like what did they do. well I'll tell you what they did there. was a cheap and effect cheap and. effective drug that is generic so they. can't make any money off of it right and. then there's this other thing that they. can make billions of dollars off so they. pushed that and anyone that supports. that cheap and effective drug they were. marginalized they were mocked and and. and that's that was the media was. involved in it because the amount of.
money that the these pharmaceutical drug. companies spend on media advertisement. that's a that's the giant problem so. crazy there's only two countries in the. whole world that allow pharmaceutical. drug companies to advertise on TV and. that's the United States and New Zealand. and New Zealand is much more restrictive. than the United States is and the most. [ __ ] up thing is not only are they. able to advertise in the US they're able. to. advertise on our news channels exactly. they're able to prop up our whole media.
system yeah and then the media can't say. anything about pharmaceutical drug side. exactly I mean they're captured so crazy. but that's also led to their demise like. they looked at short-term profits over. long-term sustainability because the the. trust in mainstream media is at an. all-time low yeah Co ruined their trust. ruined CNN recently got the lowest. ratings it's had since like 1991 they. got. 43,000 people watching one of those.
Anderson Cooper shows I heard that. that's crazy it's crazy crazy that's. crazy Whitney Cummings said that she. goes if I had 43,000 people that watched. my Instagram real I'd kill myself that's. insane right that's insane it's crazy. that people with large personal. platforms are bigger than mainstream. media way bigger yeah way bigger and. amazing it's good it is it's a good. thing I mean look at Mr Beast what does. he have like a hundred million YouTube. subscribers there's not a show on Earth. that's like that not a show on Earth.
that's bigger than that yeah but yeah I. feel like you're right it's like there's. def there's it's definitely never been. worse of those I think there they did it. to themselves yeah I mean they all did. it to themselves I mean and they' they. do it to themselves constantly they did. it to themselves with this uh Hamas. Israel Invasion with the bombing of the. hospital like all that's stuff the you. can see they're um they're elated to. tell the news right now yeah they're. they seem like they're they're so. excited that they have something that.
people are just like locked on to. they're the only ones who win in these. wars those media companies well I mean. it's it's kind of ironic that that's how. literally how they made Trump by. constantly reporting on the stupid. things that he would say and the. ridiculous things that he would say m. they would think they were getting him. but all they were doing was giving him. more attention and all they doing is. making him bigger making his profile. bigger and every time they attacked him. he just got bigger yeah and now that. people have a distrust in media now it. works even the opposite way like it's. it's even more ridiculous rather like no.
one trusts them anymore so anytime they. say anything people go what's really. going on this is kind of off topic but I. meant to ask you about this isn't it. isn't it funny that you are painted as. like a right-winger it's. hilarious and I don't think you're a. left Winger I don't think you're right I. I I don't even know who know way more. left wi than rightwing but it's funny. that like if you ask to like you know. this whole s the whole left basically.
thinks you're right you know what I mean. like anybody who's like kind of semi-. progressive or whatever would think that. you are a right-winger right because. that's how they like depict you in the. news on the left right like CNN and all. that stuff right well also I look like I. would be a right winger I'm bald I have. muscles and Tattoos I bow hunt and I do. cage fighting commentary. you know there's a lot of reasons why. you could label me you fit the uh. stereotype. but how many how many how many.
presidential candidates have you had on. this show quite a few okay let's name. them Bernie Sanders Bernie Sanders Tulsa. gabard uh Andrew Yang Robert F Kennedy. Jr um uh Gary. Johnson uh is that it is that everybody. well RFK tulsy and. Bernie what what they have libertarian. yeah they're Democrats they're all. Democrats yeah so it's I just think it's. kind of funny that everybody all these. people think you're right Wier when all.
had a single Republican candidate for. govern for governor. for for president for anything but it's. F I've never heard that you're. biased from only having from not having. Republicans on your show no you know. what I mean that's kind of weird they. leave that out well it's just the. mainstream media they're they're just. they don't like other people having. influence and they try to attack them. and one of the best ways to marginalize. someone or use it as a pajora of call. them far right they like to call me far.
right yeah well the only thing that I'm. right-wing about is discipline um I. believe in the Second Amendment I. believe in freedom of speech which is. crazy that that's rightwing now like. there's so many tenants of that used to. be of the left that are now attributed. to the right which is crazy distrust in. the government like that's all of a. sudden that's it's really changed right. yeah yeah yeah it's weird it's weird. distrust of the government used to be. leftwing you know um promotion of free. speech used to be leftwing there's some.
but when it comes to like social safety. nets and Universal uh Health Care basic. income the things like that I'm very. left-wing I believe that there's people. that are down on their luck and they. need to be helped but I also believe in. discipline and I also believe that the. right to bear arms is probably the only. thing that kept us from becoming. Australia during the p pmic you see what. [ __ ] happened to Australia during. the% agree they were just locking people. up that were outside that didn't have. their mask over their nose I mean it was. bananas they were locking people up for.
social media posts did you see what. happened in Canada these guys got. arrested for a conversation that they. were having on a on a train no but. Australia and Canada have turned into I. full China yeah it's it's Australia full. authoritarian I've I've been going to. Australia since I was 16 years old one. of my favorite countries in the world. never in a million and the Australians. have the this sense of Pride and like. they're just they don't give a [ __ ]. they're like rugged they yeah they like. no one can tell them what to do it was.
crazy to see that during coid where they. basically had to all comply or else and. it was like real they gotten so much. trouble if they didn't it was insane and. you're right that's the biggest. difference like they they thank God. that's that's that's really the only. difference and I have a couple. Australian friends that said that like. older really intelligent Australian. friends that were like dude the most. important thing you have in America is a. second amendment it's the thing that. keeps the First Amendment alive yeah cuz. the freedom of speech backed by the. Second Amendment it's and people don't.
want to believe that and they they want. to point to school shootings but here's. another thing they want to point to when. it comes to school shootings what about. the instances of psychotropic drugs that. are used by people who turn out to be. School shooters is there a correlation. is there a causation and nobody wants to. discuss that that's another thing that. never gets discussed on mainstream media. because of the fact that they're all. compromised by the far drug companies. there there's a huge number of these. people that commit these Mass atrocities. that are on psychiatric drugs now is it.
because they were already sick already. crazy and that's what caused them to do. that perhaps is it because a lot of. these disassociative and a lot of these. ssris a lot of these different things. cause people to think and behave in very. bizarre ways there's no doubt that it. has to there has to be some sort of a. connection the fact that it's not being. investigated it's not being discussed. and if you bring it up you're a [ __ ]. loon that to me is crazy and that's the. weirdest thing that the mainstream media.
has done to to try to control a. narrative specifically to protect their. interest because they are being funded. by the pharmaceutical drug companies. yeah and it's not for the greater good. of anybody including the people that run. the pharmaceutical drug companies look. there's drugs that they should sell that. are great they produce drugs that save. people's lives that. there's it's not like demonizing the. pharmacetical drug it's not them it's. the people that run the companies that. are money people the money people just.
want to make money yeah um we had uh. what was the was the guy's name. um that litigated uh against uh. pharmaceutical drug companies for Vio do. you remember his name one one of the. things Vio. was a uh like an anti-inflammatory. similar to ibuprofen but caused horrible. side effects a friend of mine had a. stroke when he was on it and uh it.
killed somewhere in the neighborhood of. 50 to 60,000 Americans wow and in. internal emails they said it's going to. cause all these problems they listed all. the medical problems that we wereare of. but we are going to do well with this. yeah John Abramson wow so John Abramson. just so this is Joe Rogan's New Year's. Eve tutorial on corporate crime in the. pharmaceutical industry so this was the. the the. drug John Abramson he's the author of. the new book sickening how big Pharma.
broke American healthc care and how he. can repair it and uh he's a lecturer at. Harvard Medical School and the author of. a 2004 book overdosed America the broken. promise of American Medicine and what. the way he described their internal. conversations about these drugs is. absolutely terrifying because it's the. money people people the people that are. just looking at their Baseline profits. the the responsibility they have to. their shareholders and what they need to. do to constantly make more money their.
job is to always make more money and. they they're willing to do really awful. [ __ ] and and push things that aren't. even effective don't even work any. better than Ibuprofen yeah and they're. willing to push this stuff on people and. tell them hey you got arthritis we got a. cure right I feel like a lot of times. when people have mental health issues. and they go and seek help a lot of times. they get put on drugs like immediately. without other and now nowadays there's a. lot of other options there's brain. treatment there's like hallucinogenics.
that they're that they're doing like. there's a lot of different options now. and I feel like that like the like the. like the like the pharmaceutical option. should be maybe the last option in some. situations you know what I mean yeah in. many many situations and in some. situations it's a good option and that's. needs to be addressed too it's not like. a it's not binary there's some people. that uh that I'm friends with that got. on anti-depressants and it changed their. life right got them out of a funk and. allowed them to make changes and then. slowly weaned on my friend Ari he got on.
them and then eventually got off of them. and he he he changed his life he got. much more successful and happy and then. realize like okay now I'm happy now I'm. successful I need to get myself off of. this stuff and stay happy and and stayed. successful it's interesting when you. start making different like when you get. your your brain pretty good then you. start making different Life Choices you. get healthier all around and maybe. successful in in your work and you start. having like meaningful relationships. with people it helps heal your brain.
yeah you know what I mean it helps heal. your perspective as well it can how you. view life yeah but that's a big one with. psychedelics but the problem with. psychedelics is they're not profitable. and you know you go to Peru and [ __ ]. pick a brew in the jungle that they make. out of leaves and it fixes your life. like the not a lot of money in that you. know and you don't you definit don't get. people addicted to it I think it's. starting to emerge though in some of. these clinics that are like alternative. mental health yeah type of places um. I've been doing but I think I talked to.
you about this in the past but I've been. doing like a bit of like brain treatment. I um so like years a years ago when I. was surfing a lot of really big waves I. had kind of a cluster of concussions. over like a six-year period I had five. really bad concussions and they were all. like pretty close to each other and a. couple of them were really really bad. anyway. I started noticing some kind of mental. health issues not super bad and not. extreme but I it it was starting to. creep in like um like my mood started.
kind of going downhill I started seeing. I was kind of getting more and more. pessimistic um didn't like being around. people even more so than like I'm kind. of I'm not the most social person but I. started like having like anxiety about. going in like big groups of people. hanging out with big groups of people. going to like public functions stuff. like that would really freak me out um. now I was also getting pretty like. mentally sloppy like a lot of brain fog. my mental Clarity was was getting worse. and worse it's getting super forgetful. um anyway I met a guy who has like a.
brain Treatment Center uh in California. so I went and got an EEG it's called so. they they measure like your brain. function your brain activity um and they. get like all this data about your brain. and then I had some brain treatment and. then they sent me a I got this this in. this. atome brain treatment um machine. basically I put this thing on my on my. head in the mornings and is it magnetic. for 30 minutes yeah it it it has. electrical pulses that goes through and.
into your brain and stimulates. stimulates brain activity anyway I. hadn't had my my EEG done in a long long. time and I was just in California and I. was really curious because I can so my. machine at home is is uh is programmed. its protocol is just for my brain. specifically for my brain based off my. EEG and so I wanted to get a new EEG. updated so I can update my protocol at. home so it works on my brain how it is. now instead of how it was two years ago.
I didn't know if there was a difference. or not so I got an EEG the other day. talked to a neuroscience for like half. an hour on a zoom call he walked me. through my chart for my EEG two years. ago my chart now and he's like what have. you been doing and I'm like I've had. some you know I have a a machine at home. doing my my brain treatment but I'm. never home I don't do that much and he. was like what is there anything else. that could like like make your brain. better because we're seeing significant. improvements in your brain function is. wild I was wild and I've noticed it i'.
I've noticed like more mental Clarity. better mood um and I've done a couple. different things I I told him about the. stem cell treatment but it was right. before that so I don't think that there. was like a correlation between my. current stem cell treatment and this EEG. and he's like what else have you been. doing and I told him I started trt. just over a year ago um and after I. started trt I I saw S I felt a. significant Improvement in my mood and. my mental Clarity and my energy well.
that is one of the things that happens. with concussions ese especially multiple. concussions is it damages your endocrine. system damages the pituitary gland which. is apparently very sensitive and uh my. good friend Dr Mark Gordon who's done a. lot of work on traumatic brain injuries. with veterans and with football players. and Fighters uh they've found that a. significant number of them suffer from. low testosterone and low hormones. because their their brain is just not. producing them correctly anymore because. it's been damaged and by replenishing. those with testosterone replacement.
therapy and hormone replacement therapy. they've alleviated a lot of the problems. that people have suicidal. ideation a lot of lot of like. significant depression issues that. they've been able to mitigate yeah with. hormone replacement it's amazing though. that we have like there's that's even an. option these days it's incredible. incredible well we're in the right time. yeah with stem cells with trt with. hormone replacement with the. understanding of nutrition and with this. brain machine that you're using these. treatments we're in a good time for that.
we're very very fortunate I'm thankful. grateful for all dude if we lived in the. 50s we'd be [ __ ] just think about your. knee surgery like my good my good friend. Steve Graham he was on the US ski team. in the 1980s and uh he uh had I mean I. he's had some [ __ ] I don't want to. butcher this I think he's had 70. surgeries over his whole he's had his. shoulders replaced he's got two. artificial knees like everything but his. legs like the sides of his legs are just. covered in scars from these old school.
surgeries where they would open you up. like a fish and take a chunk of your. hamstring and [ __ ] drill it in place. and it would last for a little while and. blow out you have to go in and do it. again modern medicine's insane it's. insane yeah how precise and like it's so. predictable they know it's going to work. like my surgeon for my knee was like. dude you're you're like you're like. tripping on this for no reason Shane. like don't be a [ __ ] it's you know what. I mean he's like I do this every single. day multiple times a day you your knee. is going to be amazing like it like 50.
years ago like you said it would have. changed my life I never would have. surfed the same ever again yeah I can. surf at a really high level still it's. insane we're very very very lucky to be. living in the time we're living in even. though there's a lot of problems when I. lived in Boston in um 19 I guess it was. 1980. six I was 19 and I was working at the. Boston Athletic Club it was uh the. healthc care Club in South Boston and I. was a trainer like showing people how to.
use machines and stuff like that and. putting people through workouts and. Bobby or the famous hockey player was. there Bobby or's knees were so bad. because he had so many surgeries that he. couldn't straighten his legs out his. knees were always bent and he would walk. with this kind of like robotic Shuffle. and we used to have to help him get on. the Versa climber machine he literally. couldn't get on it by himself I mean. this is like one of the greatest hockey. players of all time and his knees were. so destroyed and he had these knee. braces he would wear but he would play. racket ball and he would like go for a.
ball and just fall down he just like. couldn't stand up so crazy crazy imagine. that guy had stem cells yeah or or like. modern surgery yeah modern surgery if. they had modern you know knee. reconstruction like they have today. where you know they put a kadav Graft in. there they fix it and they're able to. they're even able to do kadaver miniscus. now which is crazy like I'm missing. meniscus on my left knee I had a pretty. significant tear of my left meniscus so. they took a it was like called a bucket. handle tear where I had the ACL. reconstructed in.
94 I think and then in. 2003 I believe they scooped out the. meniscus because it was just they tried. to sew it back together but it it kept. tearing and then it would lock up a. bucket handle tear is this weird you. know what it is so it folds over and. locks in place knee would lock and it's. agonizing so the only way did they fix. that is they would just cut out the. meniscus so now I'm missing a chunk of. miniscus so the knee is kind of. compromised it's like a little wobbly.
and every now and it swells but at least. it's functional like I can deal with a. little discomfort if my knee is. functional you know so the knee the. structure of the knee is very solid it's. very strong I could do all kinds of. things my hike through the mountains I. can kick the bag I get but I have to. deal with like a little bit of pain and. discomfort but now they're able to they. can do graphs where they'll take. meniscus but it it's generally only. effective for people that are like 40. and under I think that's the age I think. as you get older it becomes more and.
more of a problem with blood flow and I. don't know if that's the same with. everyone I mean I don't know if that's. the same with me as a person to someone. who's sedentary I don't I don't know I. don't understand why I would have less. blood flow as much as I exercise in. comparison to a person who's like 20. years old and sedentary with hormone. replacement with all the other things. that I do do supplements all the. different things that I do pep way way I. live your diet yeah the diet regular. Saun of use cold punch there's so many. things that I do that keep my body.
healthy your health picture probably. looks pretty similar to somebody like in. their 30s or something when you look at. if you looked at your overall health. well I know for a fact the way my body. functions it's it's very similar because. like like the other day I did uh eight. rounds on the bag and uh I was thinking. like I don't even think of the fact that. I'm 56. I just think of techniques I'm just. thinking ofam I'm not thinking of like. oh my God I'm 56 be careful all I'm. thinking of is just [ __ ] you know 30.
seconds left push boom bo boom bo boom. I'm not thinking about it it's it's like. amazing to not have to worry about your. body to be careful be smart train Hard. Exercise hard recover hard nutrition. supplements All That Jazz but at the end. of the day I have a very functional body. at 56 when I was a kid I thought you. were dead when you're 56 I didn't think. you could be jacked and strong and. healthy and have all this energy and do. two shows a night at the comedy club and. do five podcasts a week and do all the.
other [ __ ] that I do in life and and. feel great I feel [ __ ] great guys in. their 50s are functioning at a super. high level now which is awesome amazing. and the coolest thing about it is like. like if you talk to like um Andrew. huberman the the stuff that he talks. about it's not a rich guy thing right. it's really not like a lot of people. assume it is but like like waking up in. the morning and you know getting. sunlight right away like training food. um running a little bit uh you know.
sleeping good that's all stuff that you. can do even if you don't have like a lot. of um you know you don't have to be. super wealthy to and like even the even. like the hormone replacement thing if. you're if you're 50 years old or older. or whatever um even that is super. inexpensive Rel speaking super. inexpensive yeah I didn't know that when. I was younger I had no idea especially. when you consider how much money people. spend on booze yeah like if you go to a. bar and you you drink for a night like. you're [ __ ] spending hundreds of. dollars on drinks that's your whole.
that's months of hormone replacement. yeah one night at the bar am I am my. testosterone is is interesting because I. wasn't really low um Denise is my doctor. and you know I did my my blood work and. we looked at everything and and mine. wasn't really low for my age I didn't. really look into it until it was right. before 50 years old for those listening. um and I don't really think you should. until you until you you know get a lot. older but uh but I was I was at a pretty. good level but I wasn't like an optimal.
level and she's like you should probably. just try it to see how you feel see how. you feel there's no there's no downside. to trying it so I so it's like I do a. cream cream on the nuts before I go to. sleep super simple it's like a little. clicker click click click and then I. also supplement um vitamin D which is a. hormone and I supplement uh d he EA. which is a hormone a hormone DHEA is um. I believe it is um it's from the. the um thyroid is it thyroid no not thy.
thyroid can you look it up Jamie DHE is. from jimy um adrenal gland adrenal gland. and I think it it it that's where like. your testosterone and estrogen are. created and and um yeah so I take those. three D DHE. testosterone I take those as well as as. well as peptides I take peptides that. stimulate your body's production of. human growth hormone igf and and then. bpc157 which is really good for.
recovering from soft T tissue injuries. and that stuff is amazing yeah I did. that with my knee for six months it's. amazing yeah it's great there's so many. different things that they know now that. work and uh like I said we're we're. super super fortunate to be at this time. i' I've had I've had doctors tell me. that the bpc157 that there's no. scientific data to back it up and that. it's Hocus Pocus and every single highle. athlete that I know when they get. injured they get on BBC 157 yeah that. those doctors are crack yeah they're.
they're cracked because it's not true. there's there's plenty of studies like. I've had conversations with doctors like. oh well the saline works just as. effectively no it doesn't no it doesn't. like you don't you're not an athlete. look at you you fat. [ __ ] well there's a reason when someone. in the in the NBA or in the UFC they get. they get injured and yeah yeah well that. was help you recover issues with the US. uh UFC and usada was uh I talked to Jeff. nitzki about this who was the head of. the the UFC's anti-drug program and what.
he was saying is like usada won't allow. these athletes to take bpc 157 he thinks. that's wrong you think you've got to. give them the opportunity to recover. from injuries and it's not a drug it's. an amino acid stack right exactly yeah. it's it's a peptide and it helps your. body heal and it really works and there. are studies on I mean when you we talked. to someone like Andrew huberman he's. very high on that stuff and he's about. as legit as you can get yeah he's he. cites only data current data he's up on. the latest exactly exactly thank God.
there's people like him out there thank. God amazing that we have that as a as a. resource for free on YouTube scientist. that's what you want you look at that. dude he looks like he should be fighting. in the UFC he's [ __ ] and he's not. selling anything he's just like a. freaking neuroscientist scientist health. professional and he's just strictly. going on it's not his feelings he's very. careful about not being associated with. anything in terms of like what can. compromise his yeah good on him it's. it's so important to have people like. him out there Peter AA is amazing as.
well yeah he's a good friend of mine. he's out here yeah he's he's I love his. he's a bow hunter as well is he really. so cool oh he loves it yeah he just got. B from Colorado he got awesome no way. awesome yeah I've hunted with him before. I hunted with him in Utah we went um. Axis deer hunting out here yeah he's. great he's an awesome guy do you do you. um do you have high cholesterol because. of your diet at all like like quote. unquote high cholesterol from like what. people think is high cholesterol No in.
fact uh I got my cholesterol tested at. one point in time the doctor thought. that I was on anti cholesterol or low. cholesterol medication W that's. surprising yeah I just not dietary. cholesterol is not really what the issue. is I mean I'm the wrong person to talk. about this but you know obviously. there's. people that are they have genetic issues. there's there's different body types. there's different predispositions to. high cholesterol and coronary artery.
disease and a lot of different things it. really I think it depends entirely on. the individual but I do not think that. the food that's eaten by 95% of the. people in the world is the problem which. is me the most nutrient-dense food in. the world well the processed food is the. problem processed food yeah processed. food. overabundance of calorie Rich simple. carbohydrates that people consume on a. regular basis fructose corn syrup all. that [ __ ] all that [ __ ] is terrible for. you and you know and that's the problem.
with these epidemiology studies is that. when they ask a person like how many. days a week do you eat meat and you say. well look if you show the people that. are eating meat five days a week these. are there's a higher instances of. cancer yeah let's break down what else. they do how many of those people are. drinking every night how many of those. people are smoking cigarettes how many. of those people are eating High. processed food with that meat how many. how do what does that what's the form. that meat comes in you know does it come. in a Burger King Whopper or is it from. grass-fed steak and broccoli big.
difference yeah big [ __ ] difference. huge difference big [ __ ] difference. there's just so many factors that lead. and all I know I'm not telling you how. to live I'm not telling anybody else all. I know is how I live is the best way for. me I have never had better results than. the way I eat and I'm not the only one. there's a lot of people that eat the way. I eat now and it seems counterintuitive. based on conventional medical advice. but I'm all in you know and I feel.
[ __ ] great yeah well you look great. and you you live great you know you have. more energy than anyone I know you're so. damn busy it's ridiculous you do so much. dude you're the busiest guy ever I'm. busy but I'm happy yeah it's all good. things it's all good things it's all. things I enjoy and it's things you're. choosing to do exactly and they keep you. young that's the difference well they. keep you. engaged you know but you got to be. careful you know you got to be very. smart and taking care of your meat. vehicle this is the thing that you use. to travel through this life yeah we only.
got one of them yeah. allegedly you don't get a redo as far as. I know no you might I don't know who. knows what happens when you die it's all. just guesswork but right now you know. you're alive and take care of yourself. you can it's possible to do you just. have to be dedicated to it and it has to. be a thing that is just a normal part of. your life like brushing your teeth. taking a shower normal stuff so you got. to be a part of your life well and we. have guys like that guy Mark siss how. how old is he he's in the 60s right he's.
in the 70s 70s looks [ __ ] great fit. dude he's setting the bar High yeah. really high I like that full of energy. very healthy vibrant yeah super sharp. yeah and again that company that Primal. kitchen it's a [ __ ] great company. healthy choices yeah yeah it's uh again. we're very fortunate that there's enough. alternative sources of information where. people do have the data and they do. understand like cut through all the like.
there's so many people that are still. poisoned by these studies that the sugar. industry funded in like whatever it was. the 1950s or 1960s where they bribe. scientists to say that coronary artery. disease is caused by saturated fat which. is just not true. what it was was sugar and they knew that. these people were overc consuming. processed foods and sugar and that was. leading to the decay in their health and. they passed the buck onto saturated fat. and they got people eating that [ __ ].
margarine [ __ ] and I Can't Believe. It's Not Butter and all that crap. thinking that they were doing better. that they were being healthier than. actual butter which is actually good for. you you remember when we were kids we. were told butter and eggs were bad yeah. yeah yeah remember the food pyramid yeah. the bottom of it was all bread yes I I. watched a I watched a snippet of a TED. Talk recently and it was like a health a. health U like a longevity expert and he. was talking about he was he was he was. talking about Health and Longevity and. he said if someone told me that they.
wanted to get diabetes as fast as. possible they would I would tell them to. eat the food. pyramid wow yeah it's pretty wild that's. [ __ ] crazy yeah it's so crazy we just. think about how many kids grew up with. sugary cereals yeah how many kids yeah. me too yeah getting kids addicted at an. early age to Sugar it's changing their. gut biome it's getting them like craving. this [ __ ] that's not even food sugar. is powerful man it's so powerful I'll.
eat a whole like that's like my my. biggest weakness I I'll eat a whole like. I I'll eat a small little breakfast. super healthy I'll wait until like. 1:00 like I'll train I'll go surf do all. this healthy [ __ ] and I'll wait till. 1:00 and I'll make like myself like four. eggs a big V in burger and avocado. that's it that's great and I'll maack. that whole thing plenty of food right I. don't know thousand calories or. something yeah the second I'm done I get. like a little bit of sugar cravings and.
I'll like like walking by my freezer and. I'll be like ice cream I'll make a. little Assa Bowl little little sweet. treat I'll make a Assa Bowl that's like. a like a I I'll put like whey protein in. the assai and I'll and I'll I'll blend. that up and I'll put it in a bowl with. granola berries uh. bananas uh honey and peanut butter on. top sounds really good but it's like. pure sugar and it's huge and and it's. just like a sugar I'm not hungry at all.
it's just a sugar craving but it's. powerful yeah you can overc consume. because of sugar so easily very easily. so easily yeah that's my biggest that's. my biggest Vice you have you have no. vices what are your vices cigars food no. cigars I guess is a viice but food food. yeah my my biggest look I'm no no well I. I just cut it off but if I let myself go. it's pasta it's lasagna yeah Linguini. the Italian the Italian Vibes I [ __ ].
I'll go hard and then there's also like. the difference between the pasta that we. get over here and the pasta in Europe. yeah you know when they use that. heirloom wheat they use Ancient Grains. it's like they're not [ __ ] with the. way they would [ __ ] with them over here. where they increase the yield per acre. so they change what the the grains are. and more High more complex glutens your. body it's harder for your body to. process creates more inflammation and. it's covered in glyphosate oh yeah. that's another big one that's another. big one that no one wants to investigate.
that scares the [ __ ] out of people and. there's so many apologists that are tied. to the [ __ ] pesticide industry and. the herbicide industry it's so scary so. many people that want to downplay the. fact that's pretty heavy well they did a. study recently and they found that 90. something per of people people have. glyphosate in their blood I think about. that all the time man it has such such. gnarly health health like negative. health impact on you it's crazy I I was.
before I came here I was watching. YouTube I got down a rabbit hole and it. was it was like a little thing it was. like a like a documentary about there's. this massive upswing in the amount of. people in their 20s and 30s that are. taking Viagra so men in their 20s are. taking Viagra wow super super common wow. and they're saying it's because their. testosterone has dropped so much that. it's really difficult for them to. perform sexually well there's also. microplastics microplastics which is. gate and micro microplastics are some of.
the biggest things yeah there's a lot of. things that are disrupting our endocrine. system yeah well I talk about it all the. time but there's a doctor Dr shanana. Swan who wrote this book called. countdown and she she makes this. connection between the introduction of. prochemical products and people using. them like microwaving with plastic and. plastic bottles and all these different. things that leech plastic and chemicals. into and the direct decrease of male. testosterone the the the shrinking of.
human beings taints when they're babies. which is a direct indicator of whether. someone's a male or a female in males in. mammals the taint is 50 to 100% larger. than females but they're shrinking and. then also miscarriages in women there's. a much higher instance of miscarriages. and infertility and she thinks a lot of. it is directly attributable to these. Plastics and these phalates these. different me these different chemicals. that get into the bloodstream all of our. food comes in plastic yeah it's [ __ ].
awful for us yeah what a weird world we. live in it you know billions and. billions of people we have to feed all. of them so we use monocrop agriculture. so we've ruined the top soil so we're. using industrial fertilizers and all. that stuff pours off with rainfall and. gets into the rivers and and there's so. few Farmers that have decided that that. like people like White Oaks pastures. like Will Harris guy I've had on this. podcast talked about this too many times. but I'll say it one more time there's a. there's a video that shows the.
difference between his farm and the. neighboring Farm his farm is an. industrialized Farm or the the farm next. to him rather is an industrialized farm. and his farm is a regenerative farm and. it shows when rainfall hits and the. water rushes through the the top soil. and his neighbor's Farm it's polluting. the river like very clearly a line of a. very clear line of property between his. farm and the neighboring farm and what. it's doing to the environment just. polluting rivers with pesticides.
herbicides industrial fertilizer all. that runoff and it just gets right into. the rivers killing fish and it has an. impact over the decade the last couple. decade of us consuming it all this is. the river that runs near his property so. this is his neighbor's property and look. at his property look at the difference. it's [ __ ] Bonkers man when you see. the clear difference between the two. places I mean it's a a direct. line yeah that stuff has an impact man. yeah it really does well and and I don't.
know what the [ __ ] we can do to mitigate. it at this point you can eat all elk all. elk but not everybody can no that's the. thing it's like and I've heard that. argument before like yeah you're out. there hunting for your food but. everybody can't hunt for their food. right but you don't you can't ask every. everybody too but you you as an. individual you can make healthier. choices and healthier choices is buying. food from regenerative Farms there's. plenty of them in Texas there's plenty. of them that exist there's polyface. Farms there's White Oaks pastures they.
deliver to you there's plenty of like. regenerative agriculture there's a. company that I work with carnivore. snacks it's like my favorite like if I. need to run out the door and I'm looking. for something healthy that I have to eat. like a m car they have these uh. carnivore snacks it's sliced ribey it's. just ribey with salt and they it's. almost like a meat pastry it's not like. jerky it's so delicious and it's got fat. on it and I bring them to the UFC like.
when I'm at the UFC and I have to sit. there for 6 hours that's what I eat I. eat those and it's from a regenerative. Farm like you can find healthy choices. maybe those healthy choices aren't. available to eight billion people yes. that's true but you as an individual can. choose to use those healthy choices in. your life and if you can't afford them. this is your health do the best that you. can to make sure that you get the. healthiest food in your body do the best. no doubt and it's never been easier to. find them either it's so much more.
widely available than it was even just a. few years ago people are so much more. conscious of it now you know when we. grew up people used to really believe. that oh just eat a balanced diet you. don't need to do anything like that's. what is a balanced diet like what are. you saying yeah and and talking about. the food you blood work done. do you know like how your body function. do you know how it's. optimized getting your blood work done. is super important way more so than I. would have thought like 10 years ago no. I think so too my my wife kept telling.
me you got to get your blood work done. you got to get your blood work done all. the stuff you're eating everything how. you're living you want to you want to. see that. picture I would have never thought I was. deficient in a bunch of stuff crazy. vitamin D that's a weird one I would. have never imagined that a surfer is. deficient in vitamin D yeah. I feel great yeah well that's good dude. you look great I'm really interested to. hear your results from this insane stem. cell regimen yeah I'll keep you posted. I've been doing it I don't do the selfie.
video thing pretty much ever on my. Social Media stuff it's just super. cringey and something I don't feel. comfortable with but um I've been doing. it lately so I've been trying to share. my experience and kind of just tell my. story about what I'm doing um where I'm. going how I'm feeling and Sh sharing my. protocol just cuz I've had. I have a lot of personal friends around. my age that are pretty beat up and you. know some of them are considering. surgery and everybody's got you know. aches and pains and and and injuries so. I'm trying to share it for them and then. I just had an incredible amount of.
feedback from people who want to know. more I feel like from all the stuff that. I'm doing and learning I can help maybe. demystify the stem cell thing is like. seems pretty. misunderstood um so I don't know. everything there is to know about stem. cells I'm not pretending that I do but. what I'm finding out I'm trying to share. with people so um I'll try and keep you. posted that's awesome dude please do and. I really want to hear like what it does. for your back because the disk thing is. very interesting because I do know that.
there have been some examples of people. that have had these injections and that. have increased their disc space where. the discs have actually grown so people. that are suffering from regenerative D. disc disease and were told that they. might need fusions or they might need an. artificial disc they've managed to stop. that that's awesome I have a friend. named uh Mike esima he's he's he's kind. of like me but in a BMX category so he. was like an X Games athlete like a like. a BMX guy um super high level athlete.
energetic really fit um beautiful young. family kids and um his back got worse. and worse and to where he he could. barely get out of bed couldn't work. couldn't like live his normal life and I. got so bad to where he was like really. really depressed and um he went I that's. part of the reason I got stem cells. recently but he went to the same place. uh CPI the place I went to in Mexico and. got the stem cell injections in his back. and 10 months later full life Cher. fullon he's like thriving he's living.
virtually pain-free like I talked to him. on the on the phone like four four weeks. ago because I wanted to kind of see what. the process was like and he's like I'm. not joking dude you're going to trip out. on your back I didn't I don't my back. was not nearly as bad as his was but um. yeah he was like I changed my whole life. how often can you do it did you ask them. like how many times you can go back I. don't think there's really a limit I. don't think you can do it really really. consistently but I know people who go. there for the IVs all all the time they.
go once a month for St so IBS and then. the fighters all the the UFC guys like. there was a couple different Fighters. there when I was there um and they go. after every fight wow yeah makes sense. yeah I mean you have to be proactive. about recovering when you're dealing. with a [ __ ] sport like that and you. know it's just such a shame that you. have to go to another country to get. that done it really is yeah the cool. thing is they have a cartilage specific. stem cell now I was going to tell you. that about your miniscus because I my.
understanding is your miniscus is a lot. of cartilage right but they have a. cartilage specific stem cell now really. yeah what is that and there was. I I forget the name of it starts with an. M but a bunch of people when I was there. were getting the cartilage stem cell. based on their MRI. so if they had cartilage issues and. their doctor felt like they did they. would give you the option of adding. cartilage stem cells interesting to your. injections so that's something to think. about well keep me posted I will let me.
know um if you know I've got a bunch of. back issues I've been able to mitigate. them you know um and uh they don't. bother me nearly as much as they did. when I was younger because I just I'm. very proactive about strengthening my. back I do like this whole Core Series. where it's uh like I strengthen all the. muscles in my back and my neck and use. the iron neck and all around the sides. yeah everything I do everything the core. stuff helps a lot it helps a lot just to. keep that whole area stable and strong. and reinforce it anyway brother good to.
see you this was fun man always always. fun F always good to see you uh keep me. posted I'm really really excited to hear. that I might might have to travel down. there myself yeah all right thanks bye. everybody. [Music].
