Joe Rogan Experience #2041 - Steve Strope

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day just had to set of these on at band. rehearsal on Sunday you look you look. like you just had band rehears that's. right I hate to make you feel old yeah. but we've known each other for 20. years okay dude thanks how Wild is that.

does time fly or what yeah that's we've. been friends for 20 years that's pretty. ter really 20 years I hav't you know. what I did I I also experience the odd. time continuum to brief myself for this. I'm like I should probably look back. when I did this this and this and this. that and the other thing I'm going holy. crap I forgot all that that was like. 2004 are you kidding me 2004 seemed so. long ago yeah that was the Fear Factor. days yeah.

that's that's like round around when I. met you when when I brought the the. Barracuda to you fish yeah yeah like cuz. you yeah cuz it was well I have my handy. cheat sheet here you actually made a. cheat sheet to prepare for this there's. dude I got dud by the way the shirt it's. it's Exquisite I got I got it I know but. can I officially gift you in front of. the camera please do okay so so this is. a shirt with the Nova that Steve built. for me Steve built the greatest Nova the.

world has ever seen a. 1969 Nova with Camaro yeah you have to. we you really we could talk about it all. day but people have to actually see it. online lots of fun I wanted to do the. kind of that's a dope [ __ ] shirt so. there's a mixture of stuff like those. clouds and stuff are taken from those. crazy Chrysler ads in the 70s like the. the Road Runner stuff with the smoke. building out behind it we copied that. and then the the sun thing was just in. like every other 70s artwork I could. find you know and then of course the.

prerequisite small UFO and I wasn't. going to take your Joe Rogan Experience. so and being that I my other life was in. rock and roll of course I leaned towards. the Hendrick of aru experience so it. came out pretty cool there it is there's. the car the the T-shirt very cool yeah. there it is there's the car the the. coolest Nova of all time I love that. thing Man it drives so well it does I. mean it's not just so cool looking like. it drives so well the indep suspension.

the way you set it up was it Art. Morrison art morr yeah Morrison stuff uh. I went a little uh softer on the spring. in the front and believe it or not a. little stiffer on the rear um and played. with it quite a few times it's before I. delivered it to you it's magnificent. yeah I I was very cuz I set it up I. didn't set it up for Track Attack cuz. that's not what you're going to do right. no I'm just going to cruise around right. so I set it up so when you go over those. little joints in the road going onto a.

bridge it doesn't leave that up in the. background Jimmy just leave that there. that was the amazing uh photography of. Wes Allison Wes Allison you're the [ __ ]. he is the [ __ ] that's a great picture I. think I need to get a one of a steel. version of that picture put it up in our. yeah let's do that how big do you want. it I don't know pretty big we need a big. one right it came out real nice and the. funny thing is or the I don't know about. funny but the uh point of it was is. there's so much done and none of it.

looks like anything was done yeah it. really does look like just a really cool. 1969 car if you don't know the. manipulation that you guys did to the. sheet metal well not only that the the. grill is changed the the the the little. headlight doors on the side those are. changed I I used to I would joke with. different Nova people and go give you a. 100 bucks if you can tell me what I. changed in the front and they're like. wow and they're like uh uh we added bars. the grill is actually taller the the. those bars what does it look like in.

real life do they just have black spaces. what they had was a piece of plastic. that came from underneath the bumper and. it went underneath that that that. headlight and then came up so you see on. the very Outer Edge how there's like I. can't count from here one two three four. five six seven eight like eight yeah. those bars right there the bottom three. are added oh can Jamie can you pull up a. 1969 stock 69 Nova Nova Grill y or or. Nova front end Nova front in yeah but it.

U there's lots of little changes see. what it looks like yeah um well yeah. can't there you go you can you can see. how there's just a piece of plastic. under it and it comes up the silver. plastic comes up so those ribs aren't. it's not the greatest photog that's a. better. photo that looks custom no he's got the. plastic coming up yeah he's got. something you can see that piece of. plastic come up that's a beautiful Nova. too boy so we extended the grill and. extended those outer things to just fill.

up the space it just looks better uni. car yeah there it is that car is just so. unique it's such a you know it's and I. think it's one of those muscle cars that. really never got its due because it kind. of started out as more of an economy. kind of a carh yeah yeah and Nova yeah. Nova wasn't like you know if you had a. barracuda you were the [ __ ] man right. but if you had a Nova it's like oh you. couldn't afford a barracuda like if you. had a dust unless you had the Nova SS. with the 396 but there was were few and.

far between there weren't a lot of. people that ordered that when I was a. kid this kid uh in our high school had a. duster what was the other one there was. a duster there's a Dodge Dart a dart. yeah he had a Duster or Valiant yeah and. nobody gave it any respect I was like. that's a cool car like what's wrong with. you people but there was like this thing. where like some of those older cars were. less desirable so I'm in high school in. so I graduated in 85 so we're talking. about I think.

I think my friend had this car in like. 84 so you know it really was only 14. years old mhm which is kind of crazy yes. it is that's super crazy like 86 when we. were driving around a uh 68 was only. what 7 not 18 years old right wasn't an. old car not yeah super old 18 years old. ain't [ __ ] that's it's like 200 what. five we're you and I are about to do. math right that's 23 yeah that's a 2005.

which is like kind of a new car yeah. like if you have a 2005 car you can't. differentiate them at all from a 202. unless you're like a car connoisseur. right yeah sure you know if you have a. 2005 Camry it looks like a 2020 Camry. right it's interesting How Time Marches. On how perception yeah of length of. time like you were saying when we sat. down with our friendship let alone. everything else it's like how is that 20. minutes oh it's going very fast that's.

the one thing the our older generation. when we were growing up told us that was. the one truth it goes so fast yeah enjoy. it. because it's also because when you were. a child one year was literally like one. tenth of your life it was so long was an. eternity cuz you'd only been you had so. few points of reference but then as you. get older and you have more points of. reference and more experience and more. life then you realize like oh my God.

time is full I don't have much time at. all no one does it's it's it's amazing. how it goes quick how the Boost kicks in. and all of a sudden 40 50 60 like what. the hell just happened and you're just. like let's hang in there as long as I. can I got some stem cells today yeah I. was I was reading this thing that this. year I'll send it to you Jamie but uh. they believe now that through stem cell. technology they're going to be able to.

uh extend lifespan far greater and the. article said something about like having. people work until they're 120 which is. like not a good selling. point yeah here I'll s it to you hey you. can suffer longer yeah hey you can hate. what you do longer you got it already oh. there is we'll be living and working to. 120 and it will start within a decade. says Doctor to the star so it does. they're not necessarily saying you'll be. working until you're 120 but living and. working so this guy is uh using stem.

cells and I believe we can create. prolongation of Life Von schwart cells. that sounds like the beginning of every. horror movie We believe we can have. prolonging of life we can do. it so good probably within a couple. years people can live to be 120 150. years old if not longer than that it's. not just bedbound non-communicating. individuals but really active. individuals who participate in social. life professional life and and have a. quality of life because that's the goal.

yeah I'm in let's go I I I'm enjoying. life you know I'm enjoying uh doing. stuff and my friends that are um older. that are having like health problems it. really makes me realize like man you got. to stay on top of everything because if. you don't if it slides off and then you. have to try to bring it back up it's way. harder than maintaining yeah I'm yeah. yeah you know the stem cell thing uh if. he could if vanon Doom could get on uh.

on the eyeball fixing the eyeball I'd be. very appreciated what have do they let's. tell everybody what happened to you. because this is a crazy thing um oh you. it's a real bummer right you just out of. nowhere started seeing dark spots right. no what what happened was well little. background I had already. um stage one was going into your local. Dr eye guy because you have metal in. your eye oh wow cuz that's some of the. that happens even when you're wearing.

safety glasses all the haters calm down. we wear safety glasses oh it just. bounces around you know you're working. with a carbide bit spinning at you know. 15,000 RPM stuff bounces around but. since then I have I I've been using I. found this place in France that makes. these M Antique Motorcycle World War I. aircraft goggles that na us to use for. duels I I don't know that one you don't. know that one but but seals to your eyes.

and it's got little vents in it so they. don't fog up so but anyway I got metal. in my eye which is uh for those of you. who haven't done it it's lots of fun um. you hold still you're wide awake and. they come at you with a Dremel drill bit. and they drill it out Jesus so and you. and the and the instructions are hold. still don't move right oh my God I mean. they put a numbing drop in but you still. see the drill bed coming and easy easy. you can hand oh my God stuff you've been.

through I'm sure you can handle it yeah. that's wild though but so so I've been. drilled a couple of times that sounds. wrong and it if they came up with a. photo of my eye it'd look like a golf. ball little dimples when the drill comes. in so anyway God that guy is like you. know when they're in there they're if. they're experienced cats they're they. just happen to look around right yeah. and he goes hey um I think you should. come back and talk to our other doctor. so and so and have him do some tests. because I saw some stuff don't know but.

I think it'd be wise if you blah blah. blah so I go in we do the test and the. guy goes and this is wow this is a while. ago. uh 14 15 years ago here we are again. with that time portal right um he goes. you have advanced glaucoma and I go what. the hell is that he goes it's like. creeping death it slowly takes your. peripheral and most adults don't know.

that they're going blind till they're 80. and it's moves so. slow that you don't you don't notice the. change right well mine's Trucking along. and so we start with um medication that. lowers in your eye you basically got a. faucet and a. drain and if the drain's plugged up or. if the faucet's on overload it's uh. acting not like a water balloon but. pressure builds that pressure is uh.

think of your optic nerve right your. brain is the um cable TV company your ey. is the expensive flat screen TV and the. cable connecting the two of them right. that pressure building up is like. somebody with a heel of his boot digging. on that cable and sooner or. later nothing right so you take medicine. to reduce the pressure so it doesn't eat. away at the optic nerve okay great we. got that under control or killer so then.

um probably eight nine years ago I have. cataract surgery in my right. eye and um put the cataract lens in and. it's like oh my gosh it's a crystal. clear and beautiful and incredible you. know stoked on it about a year passes. and I'm at PR which is the race real. serious race version of SEMA it's in. Indian apis so there's no fuzzy dice.

there it's all race car parts and stuff. like that and I'm walking around and I. just I don't know how to describe it but. uh it actually moved in stages like a. curtain coming down of just gray and. then you just saw gray and it was my. retina falling off. detaching so I'm in Indie and I fly back. and get together with the doctors and. they're like we got to put that [ __ ] up.

and um instead of doing the long version. I'll give you the short version seven. surgeries later and every time you have. the surgery there's stitches in my eye. I'm and that's fun that's way more fun. than the drilling and you're laying face. down for a week oh boy can't move and it. just kept falling off they couldn't they. couldn't go up so I went to another. surgeon I also have a buckle permanently. sewn into my eye to they try to change. the shape of the eye to promote the.

retina staying up better oh boy so. anyway um got to new doctor great guy Dr. asali back home in Cali and he's like I. got this man these other guys they were. losers we're going to get it up there. we're going to stick it up that was. surgery. six and uh it didn't hold and he was. more I think he was more depressed than. I was and uh so we scheduled seven and. he sat down with me I remember before we.

went into uh into the operating room he. goes. look I I I don't think I can I'm gonna. go try to save your eye I'm not going to. save your sight wow because and he he he. did it this way which I thought was cool. he went and did a little research to. speak in my language and he goes when. you're trying to weld metal if uh both. the pieces are kind of rusty beat up or. whatever that it won't weld very good.

right and I go true he goes so you got. to have clean metal to clean metal to. weld I go yes that's true he goes well. all the attempts have just sprayed the. living oh [ __ ] out of the um retina so. I'm G to cut away the yucky. stuff and I'm gonna have a new Edge to. they they use a laser they basically the. only thing they know how to do is tack. weld it up that's what they do right so.

he goes I'm going to make new clean. edges I'm going to weld it up you're. going to lose some sight at least. because I'm taking away part of the. retina but I'm going to save your eye. because if the eye if we can't get. something going on in there then your. body will kill off your eye it shrinks. back it's painful pop it out put a glass. eye in and I go yeah let's yeah let's. not so he did that and uh he he goes I. cut away about a third of the retina and.

I had a visual like a vertical rectangle. of. sight right not all the way over to here. to here here to here but uh fast. forwarding Scar Tissue moved over and. pretty much just eliminated and they're. like we can go in and no no Jes we're. not going to go in and do anything oh. Jesus um so this one's basically gone. you know that's that for now and we'll. see if science Che do you know who. Michael Bisping is no sir Michael Bing. is one of the toughest human beings.

that's ever walked to face the Earth. fair enough this is what I and not just. because he was UFC middleweight champion. but because Michael bisbing fought the. last 10 fights of his UFC career. including winning the title blind in one. eye and he didn't tell them he hit it oh. I heard about that yeah he hit it he. didn't tell anybody do you know gangster. you have to be to want to be fighting. the best fighters in the world Dan hon. not being able to see Anderson Silva and. you can't see out of one eye like his.

his one eye is gone man yeah I. understand which is fighting world class. Fighters that you can see his right eye. is completely missing it's like it's. just foggy yeah he wears like a little. thing that goes over it like a lens so. it looks normal but uh he's a [ __ ]. stud that guy fought 10 fights with one. eye I me just think of fight with two. eyes is [ __ ] terrifying and fighting. against the best guys in the world and. he wins the title knocks out Luke. rockold with one eye yeah well it it.

took a lot I I would sit there and. practice like basketball into garbage. cans just to try to retain the um death. perception death perception that's the. real issue right yeah it's it's. difficult and then also it's it's. frustrating when you're uh so anyway the. the fun I'll interrupt myself to. continue with the. fun so now I'm where I'm at right and. they're like your other ey is going to. need cataract surgery oh Jesus Christ.

and I'm like so I did ask when the. retina fell off hey did the cataract. surgery have anything to do with that. possibly you know and every doctor and. every specialist and everybody I talked. to all said the same thing I'm. paraphrasing well any procedure on your. eye may could might possibly have the. possibility of like one of them. commercials for like AAL drug you know. so it's like did the operation on your.

eye cause the written to fall. off uh anything could. maybe anything could maybe so anyway so. now I've got to have cataract surgery on. this one I got a great guy who's one of. the best in the west coast etc. etc we do the. surgery and there is a. mistake in cuz they account for my. pressures they they tried to keep the. pressures low because of my glaucoma.

well. they went a little too far and my. pressures were down to your normal eyes. run like your eyes probably run at like. 20. 22 you know maybe even a little bit. higher but right around there for. pressure inside we'll call it we'll call. it air pressure you know it's not the. right term but so mine with medication. we keep it down at like 13 and 12 right. okay so. um when after the second cataract.

surgery the one on the one working eye. they had dropped the pressure so low I. coughed and it blew out blood vessels. inside my eye which when you wake up and. you look it looks like it's snowing. inside your it looks like it's snowing. and I'm like what the hell is going on. and at the same time we did a special. little uh surgery to like drill out the. drain tube because in my eyes the. faucet's wide open and the drain tubes. plucked oh boy that the pressure so the. medicine turns the faucet down and.

clears away the drain tube right so we. drill out the drain tube I'm over I'm. making this with I'm sure there's eye. guys listening that's not technically. look they drill theing mechanic work. right they drilled the damn tube open so. all the blood goes down and plugs that. so that ruined that yay and so they rush. me and they basically take a needle and. insert fluid into my eye I'm wide awake. mind you.

just two little you ever been with the. two handles under the table oh yeah the. gri them yeah oh God [ __ ] do. they have your head secured or anything. no you just put it in the little foamy. Brae oh boy so they do that and that was. miscalculated and the pressures went to. like. 62 and I I was I was um what's the word. terrified no I I was throwing up I I. couldn't stand up I was so disoriented. because it was I mean it was screwed. with the the deal and so the doc who.

again great guy I'm still I'm not. slamming him and he actually met me at. his office at like I don't even know. when it was 3: in the morning. or and and I'm throwing up in his bushes. out. front oh my God right and he did this. three times head in the thing hands on. the handle took a blade lifted my eye. and let the let the pressure out let the.

the fluid. out tell I'm like taking that right so. now we get the pressures under control. right and so that was. uh two to three years ago and believe me. every day when I wake up and I can see. like is this the day this retina falls. off am I going to have a repeat of the. last one oh my God I have clammy. hands I really do I'm the one living. through it you don't have to worry about.

you're good but but still it's for you. yeah it's you know but it's like. anything else when someone has something. they uh when something is always over. your shoulder you can either focus on it. and worry about it or just go to the. shop and build some cool cars you know. well I'm glad you chose the ladder I. guess that's the only choice to make. yeah you know I can't so I do go like. every four to six weeks I have a lady I.

love um Dr tour I go to her office. luckily it's like a mile and a half from. my house so I go down and we check my. pressures though I don't have to she's. like you're fine coming in six months. I'm like no no I'm coming in once a week. you know but I I come in like four to. six week we check the pressures we look. at the retinas we you know so we're D. we're have you looked in the stem cells. is there anything with there's nothing. as of now I have a meeting with the. doctor asali I'm getting together with. him next month and he's down at uh I.

think it's UCLA he's real hip with that. stuff and I'm going to still hip people. are still hip yeah he's. hip the T-shirt you're wearing the 69. NOA with your [ __ ] banded hair still. hip man so so he's hipped all the yeah. I'm gonna Grill him again and I'm. interested I'm G to talk with him. because I don't know I was so when they. were saying we'll go in and clean the. the scar tissue I'm like absolutely let. me um connect you to uh my friend. Brigham uh he owns ways to well which is.

a stem cell clinic in Austin and he is. he was one of the most amazing guests I. ever had on the podcast who explained. how these things work and but one of the. things that he does is he's he's always. up on the latest research in terms of. like what he's the one who sent me that. thing this this latest article about. years old the beginning of the horror. movie this shall make you forever. soldiers yeah forever you will be. connected to the big machine oh terrific. um I'm in but let me connect you to him.

and he'll he'll know what's going on in. terms of like if there's anything going. on with eyeballs there's a lot of really. good stuff with uh neurodegenerative. issues um people that have uh all sorts. of uh neurological issues have gone down. I know Dr Reen from Panama was talking. about that he's the first guy I ever had. to come on and talk about stem. cells he's uh the guy that came on with. Mel Gibson I if you ever saw that one. like oh yeah oh that guy okay I I um it. was described to me was again they were.

at least he was being honest he was like. the retina is like brain tissue we know. what it. is and that's um yeah that's about it we. can't reproduce it we can't copy it we. can't make it we can't well I my again. all they do is tack weld it up with. lasers you know my hope is they're going. to be able to make new ones because one. of the things they've been able to do. with stem cells if they they've actually. made a woman's uh black. I believe I believe they reconstructed a.

an actual bladder with stem cells with. her her tissue and then put it in her. body find out if that's true I think. that's true which is I obviously it. seems like that would be a less. complicated thing than you know than an. eyeball that has to like take yeah and. I've heard of them trying to or somebody. doing an eyeball really because it's. easier to make the whole thing than try. to replicate right that's what I was. thinking I'm like how are you going to. connect it to all those optic nerves how.

are you what the yeah what are you going. to do there and what does that do to the. like what if that go south and all a. sudden you forget your childhood you. know what I mean like what's what's. connected back there yeah I don't know I. don't know how they're going Tod dreams. about hanging out with your brother that. are going to be just gone forever like. you know what I mean yeah I I don't know. I I I I'll be interested to talk with. aali again when I'm yeah when I'm back. in and just see if there's any new. cuz I'm down for it Jamie did you find.

anything about them making. eyeballs I was looking up a bladder yeah. you were looking up the bladder did you. find that is that real. making um I found is that real I think. it's real but I never know I mean I say. things sometimes and I go okay let me. check like a lot you I don't expect to. be talking about people making blads it. just you know this wasn't a part of the. plan today yeah just it's just how it. goes oh I'm the benefit no we all we all. we all the benefit it's just a real. conversation yeah the quick search shows.

that there's definitely studies on. bladder regeneration but there's a. difference between then like getting the. a functional urinary tract kind of like. functional bladder I see so I think it. does from what I've looked at it they. partially in an animal and a small. animal I think is what it said they. didn't do it to a woman that's what I. was just looking into and then you kind. of cut me off okay go ahead try try to. find it for a woman cuz I'm pretty sure. I read that I was very impressed they. could have got me though they could got. me some clickbait [ __ ] they get me.

so many times they get me these. [ __ ]. that that's their job you got me it's. fair and square that's the job their job. is to [ __ ] make some [ __ ] that you're. going to click on right so if they can. make the most outrageous version of what. is kind of true. right it's iffy at best it's a little. iffy but it's kind of true um a new. bladder made for my cells gave my life. back bioprinting human tissue Especial. that's thing is that it no this is from.

2018 it's not the same yeah that's it. this was a little kid though is it a. girl Luke Mella does he identify as a. girl way to push sorry Luke push that to. the edge I'm trying to push gender. ideology on Luke does he identify as. sure why not I'm just trying to be right. maybe on Wednesday I'm just trying to be. right me it's there are stories that are. shown I don't know if I I might have to. find something specific to find the one. you're talking about but how that find. the eyeball yeah let's find the eyeball. the eyeball more important to Steve yeah. oh yeah to all of us a little closer for.

me there so anyway I'm going to revisit. grown and ask them if we have to go in. like they did before to to to scrape off. the scar tissue because I did. have a vertical slot of sight because. this eye has a new cataract lens which. is still in there right and I remember. when I when I but the scar tissues. covered over it yeah when I could walk. around again and I was walking outside. you know I'd cover this high and there.

would be a instead of this there'd be. like that a vertical full height but. just not as wide but clear site and I'm. like well you know it's been a while now. if they can clear that off and I can get. that that'd be a that'd be awesome. amazing I mean yes so they think they. can do that he suggested it back then so. I was not ready to do it I was sick and. tired of being on the table I literally. knew how with the IV I I prepped myself.

for freaking surgery you give yourself. an IV no I'm just saying I could I was I. was so freaking when you go in the. surgery center and they go hi Mr stro. yeah you know they recognize you giving. yourself an IV's Next Level right it's. like giving yourself a tattoo yeah I'm. not doing that guys who tattoo the. inside of their own thighs like. whoa who the hell is doing that a lot of. folks okay I'm glad I'm not guys. practicing themselves H yeah I'm going. to I'm going to say no for that one well. tattooists do it to themselves all the.

time if they want something and they. maybe want to draw it they're very. skilled you know maybe they want like a. specific kind of flower somewhere fair. enough and they can reach it okay stem. cells stem cells from one eye show. promise and healing injuries in the. other interesting there's another story. too where a kid had a he had a very. specific eye injury that was called my. problem it's not my problem well it is. my problem but my situation is there. stuff they do on the outside like a. stuff but the inside like the retina as.

long what I've been told is like no. man's Lance like well good luck you know. it's like oh you can get that from a. dead body no no you can't they can't. replace a retina and if I'm wrong great. bring it on maybe they just can't do it. now well yeah but then it's also someone. else's organ so you're going to have to. take all these drugs to keep your body. from rejecting it yeah I'm sure there's. no my friend uh CT Fletcher had a heart. transplant a few years back he's a. amazing person like he's super super.

inspirational person and uh had heart. transplant and now he has to he has. someone else's heart inside of him now. he to take medication that's so trippy. it's crazy so your body will you have. someone else's organ in your body your. body knows it's not yours so your body. tries to reject it right so I imagine. that does wreck havoc with your immune. system but it's keeping him alive and. it's amazing man this guy's so full of. love he was like this crazy wild old. like powerlifter dude who was like real.

like like just real motivational and. aggressive you know and now he's like. this like real peaceful interesting like. wise person who's enjoying his last. moments. alive you know but it's it's heavy it's. heavy I mean the heart is obviously the. big one right that yeah probably really. important we're we're [ __ ] 10 years. 20 years away Max then been able to suck. your brain out of your head and put it.

in a robot oh good that' be great. they're going to give you a Steve stroke. robot that'll be terrific you like Ken. from the Barbie. movie I hope. not yeah and the new the first ones. won't be able to feel real pleasure and. so you have to sign off on that but then. the the next ones the better ones will. that's where this is going so you have. to decide whether or not you're going to. get another surgery or you're going to. get your they've never removed a brain. from one robot and put it in another. robot you know that right yeah but they. pretty they know how to do it they know. they're pretty good at it who's they.

these new people in the future the the. robot brain scientists oh good yeah. would you opt in for that or would you. rather just say let's see what's. next let's let the lights go dim and see. what's. next all good question it's a good. question I don't know I don't know it's. hard to say because everybody's scared. to die but no one's scared to. sleep H that's a good statement yeah. it's weird because you're expecting the. odds are you're waking up you should be. in the other one. too you know true comes for all of us.

yeah that's a great equalizer is it not. I wonder if that's like you know if. Satan was real that would be the. ultimate temptation to trick you into. transferring your Consciousness into. something Immortal so that you could. never experience. Heaven wouldn't that be wild if that's. what's going. on because everybody wants to think that. even people that believe in God they. don't necessarily really talk too much. about Satan it's very rare my I I have a.

I have a very your good old standard. issue religious background with my. parents and my what did you start off. with uh well uh in I'm from a we're. going to get into appen in a little. while Appalachia appalachin what's that. appalachin mountains the Yeehaw stuff. down south what kind of stuff did you. guys. [Laughter]. do what kind of stuff. stuff what did you guys do Apple Lake in.

New York is a very very small farm toown. and Upstate New York still has a red. light at the end of it where it meets. 434 okay has a post office and a fire. station okay and known for a very. important large Mafia bus in 1957. there's Mafia bus there's actually a. paperback and a movie about Apple aen. what's the what's the movie or paperback. Apple aen it's just called Apple yes. yeah yes sir and it's all about the Mom. it's a huge bust look at on This Day in.

1957 the FBI finally had to admit that. the mafia existed they were all gathered. in a farmhouse the the leaders of the. main mob families and they were. basically working. out um jurisdictions properties fun I. think I was researching some stuff one. time and I stumbled across this meeting. happened after a failed meeting in. Cleveland cuz the the Cleveland Family. [ __ ] up the meeting and they got mad. like [ __ ] it we're doing it in New York.

yep they did it and so the the two. sheriffs just saw these Black Cadillacs. and Lincoln going up to this. Farmhouse and I think if uh memory. serves me right they kind of [ __ ] up. and all panicked and ran into the woods. in fact that no they did do that but if. they would just would have said hey. we're just hanging out right what are. you going to prove but they all bailed. and they ran into that if I remember. right they're coming out of the woods. near where my dad where my grand house. was that was a dirt road back then and I.

can take you there the house is on top. of a little hill behind the area where. we have our fireman's Field Days every. every year yeah state troopers noticed. all the fancy cars parked in barbar's. driveway and started taking down license. plate numbers some have suggested how. hard back then the 57 you get a license. plate number what is it like a week. until you find out whose [ __ ] car it. is you know what I mean suggest that one. of the geneves rivals tipped the cops in. hopes of spoiling jev's crown. ceremony oh God the assembled mafioso.

noticed this and began to panic some. fled into the woods some hidden in the. basement others ran to their cars and. tried to drive away the Troopers caught. about 60 of them when questioned many. insisted they were there for a barbecue. yes they had just come to visit their. good friend Joe Barbara who was. recovering from a heart attack when all. was said and done the Troopers had. apprehended Mafia leaders from New York. New Jersey Tampa Los Angeles Cleveland. Dallas Pittsburgh and other locations. but isn't that funny like what did they. bust them for is being there I don't. were they all want it already they just.

well I think this the paperwork laying. on the inside was showing uh dividing up. territories and it was it was one of the. first times that the FBI had Pro up hold. up look at this the whole thing made. national news and finally forced the FBI. to acknowledge that organized crime is a. matter worthy of notice some believe. that J Edgar Hoover's reluctance to. acknowledge the mob's existence can be. ascribed to the mafia somehow acquiring. photographs of who and drag and using. those to blackmail him into leaving the.

mafia alone there is no evidence to. suggest that this is true that was. always the rumor that he but that would. be the rumor if there was a guy that ran. the FBI like what Dark Secrets does he. have you know if he's like holding the. secrets of everyone what's his secret. what's his secret probably you'd have to. have secrets you'd probably go crazy if. you didn't yeah you know like you're the. one who keeps the secrets you'd probably. do the weirdest [ __ ] so the so almost. automatically you would think that he. would wear drags. yeah that's where my brain goes that's.

where my brain would go like he's doing. some freak [ __ ] he's doing some quote. freak [ __ ] freak [ __ ] you know if you. you are more you know dark-minded you. would think even horrible things do. they're doing horrible things that's. always the uh the worry that people have. about like uh the elites like what are. they doing like the Skull and Bones and. like what kind of [ __ ] rituals of. Bohemian [ __ ] are they doing what freak. [ __ ] are you doing you know and getting. away with yeah when you're on a 500. million yacht every weekend and you're. just [ __ ] balling all over the world.

hanging out with your other balling all. over the world buddies doing freak [ __ ]. yep staying in the club together mhm. hunting people okay you know what I'm. saying yeah freaky freaky freaky yeah so. anyway background small South appan. Baptist Church my dad's a deacon at the. church my sister is a married uh. somebody that who's a pastor and she. moved to France M PL and she's a a. missionary there. so all the basic uh Christian education.

I got it um but no one you know has had. conversations with the devil right uh no. not really but people I bet you've. talked to people that said God has. talked to. them not I don't know my dad would never. say God talked with me directly said you. know he he reads the Bible it's not an. uncommon thing though right no but my my. my background or or the the church I. grew up in and my mom and dad are are. pretty like like Pastor Walter growing. up that guy was um a logger you know.

this was this was a small little town. that's a cool story and and and and oh. he he had I'm not kidding he had a scar. from here down through his jaw to hear a. chainsaw jumped back and went cut him. right through the face that's a man. that's a manly man right there it's like. a Teddy Atlas car took himself to the. hospital with a TI with a towel on the. side or a shirt on the side of his face. of course he did yes he did [ __ ]. stapled it shot if you had a stapler in. and I was and he was the nicest Pleasant.

like hi good afternoon you know he was. seen some [ __ ] oh my goodness doesn't. have to convince you so so everything it. was real simple here's a good book read. it if it says yes do it if it says no. don't it that's all there's no pping. circumstance there's no robes real. simple real straightforward um so but my. dad would be interested and he'll be. listening to this so he would be. interested in your in your thing of if. if the end times doesn't come and and. Satan can say hey guess what I can do.

but here's the thought would somebody. take that if Satan really was clever oh. he if he's real if he's real he is the. prince and power of the air he is The. Great Deceiver he is he's very clever. right but if Satan is a real thing what. a genius thing to make it ridiculous to. believe in him what a genius thing to. make it so that even saying you're. you've communicated with Satan or saying. you sound like Aon you sound like a loon.

mhm we just talking about this the other. night I said that if the president said. God is with our troops we would say. awesome but if the president said we've. located the Devil he's in Afghanistan. and we're beginning bombing he'd be in. be like what what the [ __ ] did you say. you're right about genius because if if. you're ridiculed or look like a loon for. believing in Satan then by default. you're a loon for believing in God so. he's done his job by negating in. everything well sort of because a lot of.

people they're both in the same book. they believe in Satan as a concept I. think I think it's like a there's like a. graph true of people that like if you. had a pie chart of all the people that. believe in God right it's or the entity. the ones that think that that Satan's a. real thing is probably like a quarter of. the pie and if they read again not some. weird crazy but just the Plain Jane. Bible right Satan was the number one. Angel he was number two in charge he was. the big and said I want to have. everything and God was like not going to.

happen yeah but isn't that always like. even in the mob kind of thing happened. number two tries hard to kill number one. when they killed Paul castalano in front. of spark Steakhouse in New York City is. that the shot you have right there in. the hall no what do we have oh that's uh. Jack Ruby shooting Lee Harvey Oswald. that's right that's it that's yeah. that's a different one yep yeah I uh so. in my area around me there's a lot of. Italian growing bring up lots of Italian. lots of Italian right so I got good food.

there you go really good food but so you. know how to eat tell you that if you. want to eat for pleasure the Italians. got it nailed yeah they do they do. what's crazy is the difference between. their food here and their food in. Italy it's like it's it's it's it's gone. on its own um shoot yeah but that's not. what I mean I mean in terms of like what. it does to your body like I would really. like some [ __ ] signs to be done on it. like what is happening you go to Italy. you eat their pasta you don't feel bad. at all you come to America you feel like.

you ate a bowl of. glue I'm like oh my God I can't move a. bowl of glue I can't move there's. something about their bread it's. different that apparently they have. heirloom wheat they have different wheat. before we start [ __ ] with it we. should unfuck the wheat kids because I. know it's like higher yield but Joe. Rogan's knew unfun the this is what I. think but you know there's also some. people that believe that one of the. things that we're experiencing when. people have like gluten intolerance is. an intolerance to to wheat is actually.

you might be getting glyphosate from it. this is a highly speculative Theory but. they've tested people and they found out. that what was it Jamie like 94% of. people 94% of people have uh glyphosate. in their body and glyphosate is toxic. it's a it's an herbicide yeah it's an. herbicide and is it because what we do. to plant and grow wheat yes well we grow. corn you know Monsanto created it and. they created a corn that that is uh.

immune to it so you eat like this. Monsanto corn and they can spray. glyphosate on and it kills everything. else it kills all the bad weeds and you. just get the nice corn okay the problem. is that stuff gets in everyone's body in. some small amount and the question is. like is your body able to filter out the. amount that it has in it like what's the. what's the toxic level are we below the. fear is it fear mongering because like. there's a certain amount of to metals. that you're going to get just from eat. and Sushi if you get some salmon or some.

tuna rather from the Pacific Ocean. There's real high possibility that you. could get mercury in it some amount. right isn't it like what's the. prevalence of uh toxic Metals in tuna. let's just guess because I think I have. a friend I don't want to mention his. name but he's brilliant and he won't eat. fish from the Pacific anymore and I said. why and he said. Fukushima he said they're they're. literally dumping this nuclear water.

into the ocean and we don't know what's. going to happen we don't know what. effect this is going to have we don't. know the the oceans just going to easily. absorb it or whether it's going to kill. fish we don't know if it's going to. contaminate them if they're going to. have levels of radiation he was freaking. me out oh boy and he's a lot smarter. than me oh well so you're an honest man. and he doesn't [ __ ] eat fish from the. Pacific anymore I'm like whoa is that. valid so what what's the first of all.

let's look at first one is. tuna are there levels high levels of. mercury and tuna yeah it so you could. get uh mercury poisoning from one. serving sorry let me re rephrase that. the amount of mercury you're allowed to. have in a week you could get in one. serving of tuna Jesus so if you're. eating sushi every. day cuz I've heard of people actually. getting sick from eating sushi every day. like literally get mercury. poisoning.

yeah not not good no um what is that. [ __ ] that I had snck yes I I was eating. um sardines like every day I love. sardines okay I love them so I'd eat. like three cans of sardines a day and I. go to my doctor I get my blood work done. he goes. um you have arsenic in your body arsenic. arsenic yeah Trace levels of arsic. and I said how much like someone's. trying to poison me he goes I don't.

think so he goes are you eating a lot of. seafood I go eat three cans of sardines. a day he goes don't do that don't do. that and he explains to me that these. are bottom feeders and that they live a. lot of times in areas that are polluted. by humans so we've [ __ ] polluted the. ocean to the point where if you eat too. much fish you get. sick you know all these people that are. worried about the weather warming up and. climate change what are we doing to the. ocean what what are we doing I mean how. many what's the number uh in terms of.

depopulation how much fish are missing. from the ocean than than large am let's. ask the population the the fish. population in the ocean Now versus 50. years ago let's find that out let's. guess let's guess before we before you. give me the answer let's. guess how much of the ocean's fish has. been depleted in the last 50 years. I'm gonna say 50% no I'm gonna say.

70% 70% yeah I'm gonna say. 70% I was at like. 45 that's probably reasonable I might be. fearmongering let's find out. fear-mongering yeah I've done that. before oh good. okay you're not not a lot you know like. you know you're not massive mongering. you know like you play cornhole at the. beach I'm not like a cornhole player. right I played a few times at the beach. with my kids me it's on SPN now I guess. it's a legit sport oh dear So Jamie what.

was your guess help us all I I didn't I. was trying there's too many questions I. have before I could give you a good. guess cuz it's already a strange like. how are they going to measure that in. 1950 and even now how would you know how. many [ __ ] fish there are very good. question very good question especially. when more than six yeah especially when. you there's more than six fish yes um. especially when you account for the fact. that we haven't really explored most of. the ocean so how they measure is based. off of how much they're pulling out out. measure how much they've taken in for. the how much they've murdered so what's.

the what's the estimates in terms of the. mass 1950 total catch of fish in the. ocean was an estimated 18.5 million. metric. tons now a half century later it says. 73.5 million metc 4% increase that's an. increase but another guy says that 90%. of all large fish have been removed. since from the ocean since 1950 and I. don't like how how how would he know.

yeah click on his put it up there let's. see what he says that sounds interesting. because that sounds crazy. 90% Clover popularizes the work of. fishery scientists such as Daniel Pauli. a marine biologist University of British. Columbia in Vancouver Canada who have. pieced together a picture of imminent. catastrophe in the global ocean among. the first to recognize that Fisheries. catch rates were in Decline worldwide. Paulie discovered in 2001 that the. phenomenon had previously gone unnoticed. owing to systematic distortions in catch.

trends that were skewed by incorrect. reports from countries of big Fisheries. in 2003 Boris worm and Ransom Myers of. doho how do you say that doho do Hoy. sure uh University in Hala Nova Scotia. reported that 90% of all large fish. including tuna swordfish and Marlin and. cod had been removed from the ocean. since 1950. holy.

[ __ ] holy. [ __ ] the land the end of the line is. informative clo is that a book you wrote. The End Of The Line Clover's reporting. reveals that blue fin tuna the. endangered species with per perhaps the. most alarming plight in the ocean is. allegedly being bought and froze in bulk. by major corporations once ocean. supplies run dry the frozen fish can be. sold at Skyhigh prices so they're. freezing tune it in bulk because they. anticipate they're going to run.

dry that's wild they're stockpiling it. like they do. diamonds Clover's portrayal of the. global Fisheries problem falls down on. two counts over simplification and. polarization although current Fisheries. policy is inadequate much of it's based. on science okay Clover where have you. heard that before right Clover suggest. for example that the practice of. discarding by which some 7 million tons. of caught fish are thrown back into the. sea each year has arisen because. fishermen simply do not want the species.

they have caught but wasteful discarding. is more often the consequence of a. Fisheries policy that is designed to. prevent fishermen targeting juveniles. and species outside of their allotted. quota oh that makes sense because they. killed fish and then they have to throw. some of them back in the water because. they killed fish that were too small but. but that's because it's indiscriminate. they're still killing them if that's. what they're saying Clover's quick to. point out the culprits of the Fisheries. crisis slippery Poli politicians greedy. fishermen and thoughtless consumers in.

big businesses while making activists. and scientists the stars of the show but. in adopting a tone of advocacy with its. inherent moralism Clover isolates. viewers and misses an opportunity to. place this problem in context huh that's. it still seems like it's there's a. problem they're just kind of like making. it look pretty overexploitation of. Fisheries is one part of the huge. dilemma that humans face in increasingly. resource limited world we can seek. sustainability but we will not be able. to diversify our consumption. indefinitely and climate change will.

decrease Marine Resources. further they always have to bring it. back to climate change if you don't. people won't take you seriously those. most affected will be the Fisher folk of. developing countries who Fisher folk. Fisher folk why do I hate that term who. who make up 98% of people who are. directly dependent on Fisheries for. their livelihood because it's not. fishermen yeah it's Fisher folk. bro how many nonbinary fishermen are. there out there that's what I want to. know that might be the lowest population. of. non-binary humans in in groups on Earth.

fishermen no Fisher folk Fisher folk. they don't want to [ __ ] hear any of. that fisher folk all those people that. are risking their lives to get you crab. doesn't even sound like a real word. sounds like not a cartoon Fisher. folk it sounds like something they say. on The Hobbit sure Fisher folk we're. going to visit the Fisher. folk yeah oh good that's what it is y. those guys that [ __ ] risk their lives. to get you the crabs you ever watch that.

show oh The Deadliest Catch I mean the. crabs are great but Jesus Christ boys. that's a lot of work [ __ ] scary job. but it must be thrilling as. [ __ ] yeah I you know I'm not into. getting grabbed by a wave and thrown. over the side in Arctic Waters my friend. Klay Guida did it for a little while I. think he did it for the adventure too. but he's crazy he's a UFC fighter he's. out of his mind but he's crazy so yeah. he's a wild man but you know that's the. kind of guy who would you know take a. ride on one of them boats go get some.

crabs they pay you a lot of money though. and they probably should I think they. have to cuz people die cuz it's crazy. you fall in that water you're [ __ ]. Ville yep that's not good yep and that. thing's sloshing all over the place I I. don't think I can handle that you have. to sleep in that [ __ ] thing. nope and they go out for a long time. it's above my paid grade yeah not doing. it well thank God you can [ __ ] turn a. wrench. sir so I was I was going to Spring board. off of applean cuz that's from whence I.

came not how to stay on track I love. it so how I. came to be here with you backtracking to. shop backtracking for from California. starting in New York in our. pre-mentioned appal. Len um by the way appal and weird stupid. uh background appal chin and appal kin. the only only difference is the amount. of peas in the name oh really yeah which.

one has more peas appach. chin okay they're mine is APA a l c it. must be annoying that people confuse. those two with you and you have to. explain it every goddamn time I try to. stay away from it yeah just say. smalltown New York yeah right it's. easier right so um I'm tinkering on cars. in applean I'm spending most of my time. uh on stage playing um cars were my drop. dead hobby loved it.

um at night backstage I'd be reading my. new issue of hot rod and my little glass. of ice water you know couldn't wait for. my new issue and I'd go to many car. shows as I could go to uh during the. summer and um the quick version is a. real good friend of mine Sean Davis from. Canada said hey we're going to go to. this show up in um in Rybeck New York. and there's going to be a guy they were. going to meet I met him at a Big Show in. Indie and he's going to make me a Billet.

steering wheel to match my boy Wheels. this is where all the car guys can pay. attention and so uh we went to the said. show met this guy Jim um W up going to. dinner with him and the guy's like you. know I'm a machinist I got a place in. Riverside California I should be back. there making Parts I need somebody to. like go around the country and sell this. stuff and Sean goes slaps me out the. back go greatest salesman right here and. I'm like going H what and that turned. into a conversation and it turned into. me like not letting go of it sold.

everything I had moved got out here to. Riverside got there guy had already been. in evicted out of his apartment so I've. got nowhere to live I'm now living uh at. one of his employees houses oh boy and. um we're working along been there about. a month or. so and uh the Federal Marshals show up. they're not in a good. mood at all what are they looking for I.

don't know but I'm like here's my. driver's license I just got here I don't. what kind of questions are they asking. they are not asking me [ __ ] they're. walking around with clipboards and. looking at what I thought because I. stayed away from it I thought they were. checking serial numbers on the CNC. machines oh that's what I thought I have. no Pro okay I I understand they thought. maybe there was some stolen Machinery oh. something cuz Federal Marshals don't. come out for got it for a party anyway. um how's that turn out now well I'm like.

oh God no I'm not going to have any job. I don't know anybody out here and this. is not a car shop they're just Machining. Billet street rod parts they do have one. car there a 4 Ford which is owned by one. of the guys that owned TCI total cost. involved Street ride place and um the. the one of the workers for TCI comes. down once a week to check on the car cuz. we're oneoff in parts for him right so I. know that guy so we're we're getting our. parts ready we're going to be going to. the LA Roadster Show Father's Day show.

in Pomona we're going to sell our stuff. so I'm I'm setting up on Thursday and. this guy the only guy I know besides the. two other machinists goes hey man you g. to come to our our annual open house. tonight and I'm like well I got no money. um I live way down in Riverside or. Oceanside actually um but I'd love to go. I've read about it every year in Street. Rider magazine so I go to the party and. I'm like heyy man. you uh you know anybody. hiring and he goes H kind of hard man.

you gotta somebody's got to know you or. have some background some history. something you know and I'm like well. just throwing it out there so I drive. all the way to Oceanside get a couple. hours of sleep drive all the way back to. Pomona and the next morning he goes hey. come here you know what he goes like 10. minutes after you left last night guy. named Gary dagel said he was looking for. someone working his shop he's in Orange. County and I go I actually know the name. from our list he sells our stuff he goes.

well he's two aisles down take a right. go up there you'll see a sign tles so I. went and talked with Gary dagel and he. goes well you're on Jimm's dime right. now. lunchtime meet me outside and we'll talk. so we talked set up for a job. uh talk about having a job on Monday so. Sunday night we're back at shows over. with I'm putting Parts back on the shelf. and I still remember because the place. had like half the lights working dimly. lit I see Jim coming around the corner. going uh you might uh start looking for.

some work so now I don't have to ask off. for Monday went and had the meeting with. Gary got. hired and uh so I timed it I flew home. got my 67l Camino that IID built in my. dad's barn and my aunt's garage and. timed it that I stopped at the Hot Rod. Magazine supernationals in Ohio and. editor Jeff Smith and Rob Canan. approached me and said we'd like to. feature your car in Hot Rod Magazine. and I went okay but I got to go unload. everything cuz every Earthly possession.

I have is in it so I drove it back to. the hotel unloaded everything and. brought it back you a picture of that. car yeah I I actually gave him I came. with a thumb drive of a whole bunch of. stuff just in case we talked about it. you prepared I I did prepare some let me. see the 67 it's a the bright orange El. Camino um so when I got here to. California then Custom Classic truck and. custom rouer featured it also there it. is there it is yeah New Street that's. pretty yeah so I built that so what year. is this we're looking at 1995 wow that's.

a beautiful car man built it at home and. so um and then you drove it across the. country yeah I drove it across country. wow what was in that thing uh stroker. 355 stroker small block but it it it it. get going just fine it's beautiful man. thank you I usually don't like El. Caminos yeah I I I I like they're so so. weird it's like why is there like this. open spot in the back catches air those. El Caminos are station wagons with the.

top pulled off the floor pan but on the. if under in the bed same frame at the. very front of the bed where it kisses. the back of the cab they have a bolt-in. piece of metal when you take that out. that's the floor pan for the rear seat. in the station wagon ah wow so it's a. station wagon with the back taken off. and a bed it's just like who was like I. want a car but I also want a pickup. truck I want a TR that kind of stopped. happening they gave. they did if they try to bring back to El. Camino today people like what the [ __ ].

are you doing with the GM still had one. for a while down in Australia they did. yeah they had like they call it a ute um. they you base it off of the mandera. which was like their GTO the chevel they. had it for a while really yeah they like. different stuff down there though they. do they Australia has different tastes. they love uh they like a lot of utility. yeah there you go oh God that looks. really recent I love his reaction oh god. well a lot of those folks they like to. [ __ ] crocodile dunde it up and go out. in the Backwoods you know they need.

something to throw a [ __ ] tent well. those things are built though the the. motor and the drivetrain are basically. Camaro crazy that's crazy actually now. I'm changing my mind that might have. made it in America people would have. bought that there's some Knuckleheads. that would have bought that some knuckle. that's nice I'm being honest so you have. to be a knucklehead to choose that so I. get out here not that that's a bad thing. some of my favorite people are. knuckleheads. yeah but if you're like if you have. tuned that between that or a new Mustang. like the [ __ ] are you doing well you.

could throw stuff in the bag so what get. a U-Haul get the Mustang shut the [ __ ]. up I don't know there's no ifans or. butts we're bringing it back there's no. ifans or a bus Mustang is one of the few. cars that kept it together like they. lost it for a long time but they got it. back and now they're better than ever. like these new Mustangs they're putting. out today they're [ __ ] amazing oh. yeah they're great cars brutal the new. one the dark course that's a [ __ ]. great car mhm right from the factory.

six-speed 500 horsepower reasonably. priced looks [ __ ] great yeah they're. making like real muscle cars but like. modern muscle cars heck yeah it's nice. that that's still going on yes I agree I. I I seem to be a proponent for that you. know yeah it's just like people forgot. the American muscle car is one of the. most fun things to drive ever sure it. might not handle the best it might not. be the fastest it might not this it. might not that but it's what it does to. you like how it makes you feel when you. drive it they're very visceral yes it's.

very visceral it's very exciting it's. like it stimulates you it's yeah that's. why I like driving them cross country. yeah it's fun window down arm out. they're alive you're in a godamn Matthew. mccon movie yeah you're alive so I get. here and I wind up staying working for. Gary dagel and mag the car gets in a. bunch of magazines I wind up moving from. uh the Orange County area up to Studio. City join a new band start recording an.

album and I sell my El Camino to a kid. in Japan and I'm like I got to do a cool. car so I went down it's still there on. the corner of venturo Boulevard and. someone in Japan bought it yeah that's. awesome so now it's over in Tokyo do you. do you ever keep an eye on it no I don't. know where I went that was a while ago. maybe someone will reach out maybe so um. on the corner of Laurel Canyon and. Ventura Boulevard down Studio City. they're right now it's still a FedEx.

office but it was a Kinkos the Kinkos. was where pure Vision begat I was there. a photocopy in my magazine features and. I had my friend Matt Willoughby in Ohio. draw this idea of the 66 charger that. was called. Scully um because that's what the pros. do they had artwork first right and I. went to Hot Rod and said hey uh you guys. thought I was cool before I built a car. that you featured and I'm going to build. this thing and I'm going to show up on. your power tour right and I'm going to.

use these parts all these people that. sponsor your Power Tour is that you as a. young man is that this voice that you're. yeah who knows or idiot whatever I am so. I go over to all the potential sponsors. all right know I'm more official no go. over all the sponsor potential guys and. go hey I I had to mail there was no. email so I mail these packets of color. photo copies of my my El Camino that's. been in the prior magazines proving like. hey I've done it once MH and going hey.

my proposal is I'm going to build this. car and I'm going to take it on the. Power Tour that you were sponsoring so. basically they sponsored me with some. parts and they ran the artwork of my car. and I built it in my shared tandem. parking garage underground parking. garage at my apartment on witset Avenue. which is where whitet crosses into. crashes into vent tur Boulevard built it. there so you built it in a in a. sh with other people mhm yeah I I would. go to the junkyard get the parts like.

example how big is this a two-car garage. no it's an underground parking garage. like how many people are parked in that. garage well it's tan 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. 10 11 12 and you have just one spot yeah. and in that one spot you're building a. car right pretty much and so there's a. car right next to you while you're. building this car right so you're. pulling fenders off and [ __ ] there's a. car right there a lot a lot of stuff was. done in that garage yes I that's crazy. would never park next to you right well. I I am wonderfully respectful I'm sure.

but who the [ __ ] is going to park next. to the guy who's building a car don't. know it's covered all day I work at. night so I'll give you an example of. what I did went to the junkyard for the. front end swap pieces to convert it to. disc brakes right because I I know the. swaps and all that stuff so I get all. those parts and out the. back of the apartment building there's a. concrete slab and that's it there was. like a really bad table in a chair. nobody ever sits there so I found the. one outside the building electric outlet.

bought two extension cords to go over. because it's all the way on the other. side of the building wrap it around the. building and I got a drill and a wire. wheel on it and a screwdriver and I. scraped all the old muck and then wire. wheeled them to Bare Metal all the parts. and then I went to the um did you have. goggles on back then yeah so you're in. the garage I'm not in the garage I'm out. back of the building now grinding. Everything clean and then wiped. everything with acetone and then at. night about 2: in the morning I I went.

to the to the um Like Home Depot and you. know those pieces of plastic you can buy. there for when you paint a room it's. like 12 foot by 15ot whatever covered. everybody's cars oh Jesus Christ and. then I hung I hung all the parts on the. water coming out like you want go to. your friend's house at 3: in the morning. I go downstairs your car is covered with. plastic and this [ __ ] lunatic I. covered all the cars so no one would get. any paint on it and a foxy painted all. the suspension parts I hung them from. the water pipes oh my God then I'd.

assembl the car now so when did you get. done when you when you stop like 6:30 in. the morning like yeah whenever yeah just. when yeah did anybody ever come out and. see their car covered in plastic no I. always removed all the evidence no one. ever knew how many nights a week did you. have people's cars covered in plastic. all the time that is so wild so all the. time that's so wild and so I had another. friend that I did exchange work he. painted it for me and let me use his. place for reass assembly and I rebuilt. the suspension and the and the and the. engine in his 67 pickup truck for an.

exchange right yeah so I get the car. ready take it to the um the kickoff. party for the Power Tour we're going to. drive from California to uh Michigan and. uh I haven't even changed the the cam. breaking oil yet this car is. fresh fresh and I'm going to drive it to. which I did by the way so kickoff party. uh what be G from that is. Hot Rod Magazine featured it Mopar. Muscle featured it put on the cover.

Daytona magazine in Japan featured it. there it is and at the end of the year. yeah there Skelly that's a photo that's. a it's a kind of an odd black and white. but it's a Jaguar color called topaz um. yeah it's like a blue right no no it's a. light silvery gold it's on that thumb. drive there it is right there yeah there. it is why I think to oh I'm thinking of. so that's the car I built in the. underground parking garage God that's. beautiful man it came out nice and oh my. God that's gorgeous at the end of the. year it also got top 10 car of the year. and you built it in a [ __ ] garage.

with a bunch of cars covered in plas you. dude that's it's when you want to bad. enough yeah look I mean beautiful that. car is y pretty car God that's so nice. and so that started the ball well the El. Camino technically did but what a. beautiful car that is man you got other. pictures of that yeah there's there's. some other stuff up over there click on. that uh link that says pure Vision. Scully right under the big picture um. there oh that's the the graphic I. designed oh that whole that that stupid. skull right there has a story so I.

designed this pinstripe I wanted bone. red bone and then at the very front. obviously the bone turns into the skull. with wraparound glasses and cigar in his. mouth every one of those dang stitches. are handrawn I did in fact that side's. me I did the driver's side no my friend. Matt Willoughby here's the backstone so. I told him I go here's the idea I gave. this really horrible sketch of this. skull with his wraparound sunglasses and. he did this piece of artwork for me with. the car and the skull and when he sent. the artwork I'm like that's that's not.

the skull well he he faxed it to me the. idea like his version of what I was. telling him okay and the facts was like. that was oh it's that stretched and cool. as [ __ ] right thin and pulled so anyway. so the facts [ __ ] it up better the. fact pulled it that's amazing so when he. flew out to put it on I showed him the. fact and he went oh my God the fact have. dragged cuz that looks almost like a. wolf yeah kind of it it was a mistake.

like if that was a dude I'd be terrified. of him right it was it was a mistake and. I said well that's what we're using and. he's like oh hell yeah we are hell yeah. that's awesome so we we did that graphic. can you show me a photograph of what. that looks like in perspective with the. rest of the car um well if you click on. that link where you're at yeah the just. the front three quter not that one just. the one right next to it on the nope. other to the right to the right there. yeah you'll see it it's up at the very. front of the front fender it's right in.

the front corner it's right there oh. right there show me the closeup on it. Jamie because there's a close-up in one. of those other. photos that right there oh that's so. sick so all the way down the car it's. just the bone red bone pinstripe with. all those hand stitches so that's Matt. stitches we had to boot we only had so. long we were doing that the graphic. overnight at a borrowed paint booth that. car is so rock and roll so yeah just. carburated 360 out of a Cordo. that is with a warmed up Cam and stuff. it's straightforward that car is like a. 1974 ACDC song you know what I'm saying.

like look at that thing God God Dam. that's pretty look how pretty that is. and the interior is four bucket seats. and a console that goes all the way back. to the rear end view of it look at that. yeah cool car they only made him two. years 66 and 67 God it's [ __ ]. gorgeous yeah it's neat big gorgeous I. don't think I've seen one I've. definitely not seen one few and far. between that's why I did it it's a. perfect car to do it with cuz it's so. pretty man yeah the back end of that is. just [ __ ] Heavenly yeah it's cool.

they're neat look at it I uh I enjoy. them and uh so that was a lot of fun and. then on that Power Tour I met a kid. named Martin weinreb who had a black. challenger and I go I got an idea for. your car and then we built the car in. his driveway and it was called. Challenger X and that was that be we I. was the first guys doing any pro touring. Mopars and this Challenger X was the. first car to have that I knew of Street. driven carbon fiber drive shaft this. like the second set of big 18-in torque.

thrusts um we worked with a guy named. Craig rails back at BDS for the an eight. stack EFI injection on a small block. Chrysler and that that'll be on that on. that thumb drive I gave you it's called. Challenger x black challenger yeah so. that that car we we took that on a Power. Tour from here to Florida and back and. um there it is yeah pretty car that's. another car are the Challenger yep that. that came out nice that's a 70 right uh. 72 72 really I did the whole interior in.

a tan and we built that in in. Martin's driveway so 72 Challengers are. still dope 72 bar the same as 70 it's. just different bumper but 72 barracudas. got goofy mhm you know they started. looking goofy but challeng still looks. sick yeah I did all the gauges and tan. and did this whole thing in here so. anyway this car we drive it and it gets. features and it gets top 10 car of the. year. so I've got two top 10 cars of the year. and like nine or 10 features and I don't.

even have a shop yet I've been building. out of a barn out of a tan and parking. garage and somebody's driveway so my. batting average is doing pretty good so. you get a get a place yeah I finally get. a place and um build a couple of other. stuff and I started on a duster which we. call dusta which was I kept the duster. lettering but made it dusta put that on. the Power Tour and that car exploded it. was let me see that cuz like we were. talking about it earlier I like a duster. yeah this this is a really nice. underappreciated car yep was this duster.

uh that was a 72 yeah okay so that's. those are the years that were. underappreciated and um we built that. and I I drove that again from California. to Michigan is that in your photo yeah. no it's in it's on the thumb drive it's. a bright there's the duster duster. underappreciated car so that thing had a. lot piur a lot of trick stuff that. nobody had ever done yet um on Mopar. suspensions um and what did you do to it. well there so that's a really.

lightweight car right like what does. that weigh oh probably 36 or 34 wow but. um so it's small yep smaller than like a. 65 Mustang like is it in the no not. smaller than the Mustang nope but light. there's not a lot to them so um that car. like again I'm I'm I'm so fortunate H. hot rod Mopar Muscle all these books. it's cover it's centerfold pullout. poster it's a screen saver because that.

just started it's a diecast car it's top. 10 car of the year so now I got three. you know um it's just it's been amazing. and again so unbelievably fortunate that. you're talented man you keep saying. fortunate I mean it is forunate but it's. also hard work man it it is hard work so. at that point I was living in the. shop uh I didn't have money for an. apartment so my bed was next to my lift. and I had a piece of plastic that I.

threw over the bed so so the rust and. oil and everything else wouldn't get on. my bed and then I joined a 24-hour. fitness so I had somewhere to shower wow. how many people have done that a lot. yeah well a lot I don't know if they're. as stupid as me but I I did it um no a. lot of people do that when they're. living out of their cars a lot of. comedians did that kind a membership of. 24-Hour Fitness slept in their car yeah. no that I was sleeping in the shop yeah. so um that car really launched stuff and. I got a phone call um that car by the.

way Reggie Jackson still owns it he. bought it off the guy I built it from he. still owns it Reggie Jackson might be. like the biggest hot rod collector ever. he's yeah he lost a lot in the fire. about 20 years ago that lost buildings. worth oh. no so anyway the guy that I built that. car for Romeo furio that's his real name. um he wanted to do other car and I got I. just came back from showering with 30.

strangers had 24-hour fitness and my and. I'm have my bowl of Cheerios my phone. rings and it's uh this gentleman named. David hakee and uh a couple of other big. wig gentlemen from Mopar performance. from Chrysler they're like we've been. watching what you've been doing we want. to be synonymous with pure Vision here's. the catalog next time you build. something whatever you want let us know. that's awesome and we built a car or I. built a car I was still basically alone.

uh called. GTX I had great a fantastic painter. named Russ Stevenson that put up with me. at that time now I have Mick Jenkins who. was just beyond incredible um we'll get. to that in a second but on GTX R um I. wanted to use the big body uh satellite. that nobody ever uses and nobody likes. can I see what that looks like and. they're very swoopy like Ferraris they. go like they're Coke bottled but they. the way they sat stock is they look like. an elephant on stilts there you go oh.

that's a cool car so I this was my first. time ever at SEMA is that an AMG is that. what that is no it's it's a Plymouth sat. that's a Plymouth yeah so I um God. that's a wild looking car yeah right. they're very you don't see very many of. those either no they're very because no. one cared and these things were so curvy. I got a great story about but it's so. cool that shot the Mopar the one with. the blue the blue sky behind it. um with the blue sky Jamie you're right. in the middle almost the photo of the. Blue Sky no right there yeah that one.

yeah so so I'm getting ready I'm. thrashing to get the thing done to go to. SEMA I've never been to SEMA before and. I'm unveiling the car in Chrysler's. Bruth on a turntable right how pretty. that is first time there so this is like. just cracking 600 in the morning we had. already driven from in the truck and. trailer driven from what year is this uh. when did I do that hold on that's why I. have my notes just take a guess oh God. why I like how you went with the fat.

tires in the rear 2003 I get really sad. when I see a muscle car with skinny rear. tires oh no always big old Tire yeah so. um this is when you're coming down the. grade into Vegas and before there was. nothing over to the right now it's all. houses and everything all the way to. Henderson before there was nothing there. this is when the roads were paved and. there wasn't one building put up and the. photographer is in a ditch that is like.

5T deep for the what will be the. plumbing and all that stuff oh and he's. sitting there his name was Randy bullig. and I remember him because again no. digital cameras it was right hey like. how he did that almost sounded like it. no it was horrible okay anyway I hear. him go cover I'm like oh that's cool so. that car was the world's first p shifted. muscle car I created the paddle shifts. in it oh wow at that time let see the. interior the only there's one shot that.

I put on the thumb drive again I don't. know if you have that in but there's a. interior shot the steering wheel so um. what kind of uh transmission at the time. there was the brand new truck 518 four. four-speed overdrive that was in the. brand new pickup trucks for 2002 2003 uh. overdrive was becoming a new thing so. there you go so I made the I had a a. really amazing Billet guy he did the. intakes on that we'll look at the motor. in a second and those paddles I made.

everything out of wood first and those. work micro switches in the inside the. column the factory column and underneath. see how there's three horn buttons the. little pads underneath the right one up. at 3:00 there's a micro switch under. that now and so the I used a company. called deedon bear that made pneumatic. shifters for drag racing okay okay it. goes it immediately shifts it it's. hooked up to a computer so all I did and.

it's air that you know that like the CO2. guns that air cartridge yeah one of. those are in the. trunk and it runs the this selenoid that. is attached to a B&M ratchet shifter so. you can never skip a gear right Bam Bam. Bam and they are hooked up so shift up. pulls back I called Deen bear can I and. I said can you make me one that pushes. and pulls they're like sure so upshift. downshift wow and then this button under.

the horn I use the horn circuit that. turns the overdrive on and off so up. Highway second third overdrive or second. the canyon second so where's the horn. now the the the there's no horn [ __ ] the. horn you gave up the horn yeah nobody. cared but so I had like every executive. cuz the shifter moves while you're. hitting the paddles cuz cuz the ratchets. because the CO2 is working it right I oh. my the end of the first day we had to go. refill the bottle which was like at that.

point 75 cents it's good for about 200. shifts but it it was fully functioning. and working and worked fantastic and it. was actually foolproof because even if. you ran out of CO2 you just grab a. shifter put it in drive and drive it. around right so it only applied to when. you wanted when you wanted to yeah but. it worked really good the problem was. nobody had a shift kit so the. transmission couldn't shift as fast as. because I turn the wick up turn the. pressure up and it would go bam bam I. mean it' shift right freaking now then. the transmission would be.

like it just died yeah well no it it it. catch up eventually but they then place. like Fairbanks and other companies. started making shift kits so yeah you. don't make normal cars you you really. over complicate your. life by doing things like that so so you. move forward from that car and then I. built a car called hammer and that was a. Road Runner that was the first one I saw. yeah and Hammer was in um my actually it. was in the same it was a season later on. rides they followed me building mhm my.

car like they followed sickish cuz you. were first season I think so I think it. was the first episode of the first. season I don't know cuz you're Fancy no. I don't think I was on the first season. I thought you were I don't know I think. there was other one I think I don't know. if I was in I definitely don't think I. was the first episode so built hammer. and that was you know I had an interior. guy who didn't show up the night before. SEMA and a whole bunch disaster and. showed up to SEMA a day late and which. was also fantastic because everybody the.

rumor was around that this car being. filmed was late and it may or may not. show up and and we we got there and um. uh so that was my first rides episode. and then about a there she is there she. is my God that's so that thing still. holds up that is owned by the gentleman. who owns uh Traxxas the radio controlled. Empire when I went to your shop that was. there the first time I went to the shop. it's a lovely car oh my God it still. looks good of course it looks good how.

could it not look good I don't know I'm. just saying it still looks like that yes. it does it does look like that thing. spawned a a million copies God it's so. pretty yeah so that's even better so. that's even better than the other one I. yeah oh the Road Runner yeah that's. actually a sport satellite with borrowed. trim pieces from GTX and Road Runner. really yeah like like cherry picking. like the trim around so what's a sport. satellite sport satellite can you click. on that link so we can see more pictures. of that that thing's [ __ ] pretty man.

oh look at that artwork and and uh so um. click on the interior yeah I made I. handmade the dash out of metal uh on the. on that car wow and uh Shannon Hudson at. Redline gauge works did I did a drop. recess like a BMW and it and the red. lights just washed down thank God you. made that a manual oh yes um and uh I. copied across the back on those cars. they have the individual letters.

Plymouth P ym right yeah so I copied the. font and had letters made that spelled. hammer and then made a new set on on the. dash no I I saw that yeah click on that. Jamie so you can see look how it looks. it looks amazing in the back oh the tail. panel oh that's was when we were there's. Vin to Vin Diesel drive it uh well he. was in it the the stuntman did the. burnouts and they were in the movie. that's the end of Tokyo well that's. where I was going we I got a phone call. from do you know Dennis McCarthy no I. don't okay he's the guy that handles all.

the cars for all the fast furious movies. let me see some more pictures of that so. he um and so they want to put it in fast. in the fut well I got a phone call from. him he got my number from one of the guy. one of the editors at Hot Rod and he. goes hey uh my name's Dennis McCarthy. and I'm doing Fast and Furious stuff and. uh we uh we need a car for Vin Diesel. he's going to come we're going to bring. his his character back in this movie and. I hear you have the the most badass. Mopar in in Southern California is that.

true and I go [ __ ] yeah yeah it is I. have we have a bad son of a [ __ ] so. they rented it and uh it but it's the. car in the stunt scenes it's the car. doing the burnouts it's wow and um who. owns it now uh the guy that owns Traxxas. the radio control car company oh he he. bought it off of Eric God I hope he. drives it I hope so too the thing thing. was wonderful so it we actually unveiled. it twice at SEMA we brought it back a. couple of years later with the new all.

aluminum uh Hemi the color of it with. the wheels with the black wheels the. silver outline God it's perfect Kinesis. wheels k19 and the color is BMW Sterling. Grays look at that [ __ ] thing again. uh oh that's BMW Sterling gray that's. Sterling gray factory color [ __ ]. gorgeous color man yes it is and that. that photography is from the the man. himself Randy lorenza another fantastic. photographer let me see some pictures in. like higher light Jamie is there any.

pictures yeah but let just let see yeah. go to that one that's outside with the. red on the bottom of it right above your. cursor yeah oh yeah at the Red Carpet. for at that yep sharp car God it's. gorgeous So that obviously did wonders. and that was like 2005 2006 had a bunch. of other really cool stuff and then we. built the Anvil must. St uh we helped develop all the the. carbon fiber pieces for a company called.

Anvil and we unveiled the car at SEMA in. 2010 and um I knew we had a really good. car it's all cleever push ride inboard. suspension like an F1 car and we wide. bodied it except you can't tell unless. it's sitting next to a stock when we. actually bowed the quarter panels so at. the door and at the tail lights it's. stock it curves up um there it is. another uh so lots of work done to that.

thing the whole nose is all carbon fiber. and it's widened and and changed tail. panels changed I did like a there you. can see the CLE the push rod can L. inboard suspension there the coil over. laid down must handle like a. [ __ ] huh yeah yeah it's a lovely. car and that's an all that's the rear. seat area that's the inboard that's a. Meers rear and everything's on quick pin. so you can literally snap take out the. coil put in a different not stick your. fingers in there kids no bad while the. car is driving do not stick your fingers. it is fantastic to watch in the rearview.

mirror oh my God it must be amazing. you're sitting there watching the stuff. work and you're like oh I got to be. driving sorry yeah just don't have a gym. bag back there yeah bad um oh my God. look at that interior so um God that's. gorgeous we that's a perfect interior. for that car and we a lot of the time. spent see that down bar going down. through the roll bar yes that does not. touch you when you're in the passenger. seat really touches nobody so it's if. you're a big guy there's a lot of room. but that comes out too that bolts and. unbolts so um yeah all little switches.

and handles and whatnot [ __ ] yeah does. the guy who has this drive it yeah as. far as I know he's got to drive this so. it won woo look at that that is so. gorgeous man it won the Ford design. award car of the show at SEMO which was. a that's 69 right uh yes you're correct. sir it might be the most gorgeous 69. I've ever seen yeah lots again. nothing St nothing stocked everything's. that [ __ ] suspension setup in the. back seat yeah that was cool gives me a.

childhood boner okay good. um so that all this stuff comes back to. when you're kids right heck yeah all the. stuff come back Hot Wheels yeah Hot. Wheels and what the cool cars were in. your neighborhood your kids that there's. a miracle for me in. 2005 or so I'm in an. airport and before when I was when I was. building Scully the the silver car 97 is. yeah I left the job I was working and.

went working for a gentleman named Bruce. Schultz and he did sublet work for. Mattel and action diecast and we did. prototypes it was before there was rapid. prototype anything so You' get a drawing. from the Mattel crazy Hot Wheel designer. it's like make. this or we'd get some and go here we. need these 25 stripped and painted a. different color in different graphics. for Toy Fair so I when I worked for. Bruce I met a guy named Kelly Cox Mr.

Kelly Cox who as of right now is going. on as like his 18th or 19th year as an. employee for me we became really good. friends working together we found out we. love the same music we had the same. sense of humor and uh so I met Kelly. working for Bruce and I was building. that when I built that charger I drove. it over to Bruce's house cuz I'd met him. like a year before and I said hey look. what I did cuz he saw the car I started. with and he goes you did that and I'm. like yeah he goes can you build model.

cars I'm like yeah he's like want to. work here I'm like where he goes here in. my garage this is what we do blah blah. blah blah blah blah and he goes how much. do you make working for Chrysler I go X. he goes I'll promise you X and you can. make y I'm like I'm quitting tomorrow so. I'm just in this guy's garage building. model basic I'm oversimplifying but. building super cool one-off model stuff. for Mattel and Hot Wheels that's 97. right 90 well 98 going into 99 fast.

forward 2005 my shop is now up and. running I've had a bunch of magazine. features I'm at an airport and one of. the guys I that worked at Mattel was in. the airport too I recognize him because. I used to be down there all the time. bringing in. prototypes and I'm joking with him and. I'm like hey man how many super cool. features do I got to have before I can. get a Hot Wheels made of one of my cars. and he goes you know what that's a good. idea I'm like uh yeah it's a good idea. you know I was joking with it so they.

had a new line of your normal Hot Wheels. are 164th scale they were going to try. this new thing with like 150th scale and. they're going to call them G machines. and they're like we'll do a 12C car line. with you you you create the paint Scheme. and then this and then that but we have. X amount of little wheels you can use. and next amount of this and that well. that worked for both of us because I. know working with them I understand the. cost of extra extra stripes and eff cost. money so I know how to make a car simple.

and that one a little more elaborate and. then the budget balances out I. understood all that already so I went. down had a designer group meeting and I. got a 12C car line that in the back. window of every car it's got my pure. Vision logo and on the back of the box. it says pure Vision the premier hot rod. shop and Southern California these went. Global and I mean it's the hugest honor. it's unbel believable opportunity that I. still and like you know pinching myself. that that even happened and um so uh.

that was an amazing opportunity working. at Bruce's it be got me having a toy. line later and having you know my my guy. that's been with me forever Kelly. working for me so that was very. fortunate again that the Stars lined up. that way that's great man it's not. Fortune though it's Talent well you have. an eye for cars you true but it's an art. form you know and you're an artist in. other ways you know you you play music. your your guy creates things that's what.

I think is so interesting about your. cars is that you don't just like make a. cool car you make a cool car with all. these little Easter eggs in it there's. all these little things in it you have. to kind of that's really cool that you. say that because We've joked about it at. car shows our our car is the Easter egg. Hut you keep coming back and finding I. didn't even see that well if you go to. the um uh the the video you did. oh my God the the the one on uh YouTube. with well that narrows it down the one. about this about my car oh your car yeah.

yeah uhhuh why am I [ __ ] blanking on. aop autotopia thank you sh Shan. autotopia that which is an amazing video. where you go over in detail like all the. different weird things that you did. little things we changed yeah yeah yeah. Sean's oh God Sean's awesome yeah really. fun and he's a good guy he seems like a. really good guy and these uh videos are. awesome his videos are all awesome but. this one was particularly cool yeah he. loved being in the car and the thing is. is I'm friends with him too so off off.

camera you know he'll tell me good bad. ugly you know and he he just loved being. in the car really appreciated all the. all the work actually what are you doing. now what are you working on now oh my. gosh I got um well just finished up a. really amazing chevel for a guy named. khabib that um again thankful uh cover. of hemings and it's about to come out in. Chevy Hub is that a 67 yeah the the. turquoise Aqua one I've seen that yeah a. lot of like three magazines featuring. that and a bunch of crap you and I. talked about doing older yeah well you.

were you I've still got all the notes. cuz I went Hog Wild on a 68 you were you. your your thing you handed me was a 68. is that what it was in that list like I. like these seven cars which one do I do. but I'm glad we went with the Nova. really well I took you to Gary to Z and. it's and it's on the thumb drive Z28. Nova something about that I had this. like light bulb when sounded gnarly that. thing always sounds gnarly too it was. really cool it was just a you know you. did a Z28 version of a 196 if you could.

have ordered 69 Nova yep y there is. right there and it was and I saw that. and like a light bulb went off of my. head I was like that's the car yeah. that's the car yep yours and his are. very very very very very very different. but yeah very different but still. [ __ ] super cool like that one I I I. remember thinking wow you don't see. enough of these no no no the guy in. Australia made a cool one. cam you know that one guy in Australia. uh I think I know the car you're talking. about something by cam I I'm not super.

familiar but I think I know what you're. talking about he made this really wild. black 68 or 69. Nova and uh did some really cool stuff. to it um and it was a few years back hot. rods by cam by C I just got it yeah it. yeah see if you can find his Nova no. there's a black one he made a black one. H that's a no also. yeah see if you can see is Black.

Nova cam Black. Nova yeah that's it that's it look at. this [ __ ] thing this thing is sick. give me some. volume yeah Rock Roll oh dear God look. at that. [Music]. thing yeah. [Music]. that's what I'm talking about Steve I. can hear I can hear the turbos that's.

what I'm talking about the W. skates what does that girl have to do. with this what is going on here she's in. her underwear What's Happening Here. photo shoot. probably yeah why are they showing that. show me that goddamn car stop trying to. distract me they want they just want to. keep you looking you know like they. figure you're only going to look at that. car for about 45 seconds throwing a hot. lady in a bikini now we got you is she's. still on screen she's still on the. screen where's the [ __ ] car where's. the [ __ ] car the [ __ ] car there. she is again that's it long she's a wild.

one too tattooed up oh great that's what. you want if you want a car like that you. want a lady like that fair enough that's. the dream cam selling the dream is I was. that what he's doing he's selling the. dream okay the dream don't you see yeah. I saw it that car is wild though huh. sounds healthy show me some extra images. of that car it's a yeah so that car too. influenced my decision oh so um I don't. know if car was like during the time we. had already decided on a Nova though cuz. this guy built that a few years back. yeah I'm unfamiliar with pretty man.

that's [ __ ] pretty look at that it's. a little taller rear tire but that's me. oh yeah that's an older School rubber. band I want to say old everyone does. their own thing but early 2000s they. were doing a lot of that right look at. that thing though who good Lord that's. beautiful big old hood yeah beautiful. car I think it's a twin turbo if I. remember it sounded like I was hearing. the waist Gates pop when he was doing. acceleration click yeah click on that. image of right there where your cursor. is right there yeah look at that [ __ ].

thing. woo God that's gorgeous but it drives me. nuts when people don't put side view. mirrors like it doesn't make the car. look bad but you should see where the. [ __ ] you're going or where you were yeah. or what's what's coming up changing. lanes the where the officers are yeah. put a [ __ ] side view mirror on kids. it does not make the car look ugly that. became a trend for a while where people. would have completely shaved mirrors. yeah you. know um you had ask me what's what's uh.

new and you know what I I I didn't I'll. I'll have to give you because I have. nothing up I'll give you so you guys can. some ideas so you guys can get it in. post um no I've got three cars that are. uh humdingers I got a I got a Road. Runner coming out called. haraca which is. uh African for. Speed and it's quite the piece is that. done or you we're going to unveil it.

next year at SEMA oh and it's got what. stage is it in now uh bare metal and. heavy Fab you got any images I will. supply you images is that it right there. that's that is like a cell phone from. the 60s what the hell is that time Mach. how even get that what is that oh oh I. know what it is it might have been like. an Instagram there a Tik Tok video yeah. or something oh that's hilarious yeah. it's it's way beyond that stage and it's. Road Runner is another car that's a very. cool car yes uh this this one is going.

to be something promise you someone. should re redo blad's 69 charger from. the movie. Blade do you remember that I think it. was a 69 it's definitely a late 60s. charger blade you know the Vampire. Hunter yeah he drove around in a charger. when he was killing people it's 68. yeah similar by style there it is right. there look at that car right there. somebody needs to redo that cuz blade. had that's not hard blade had a soup but.

I mean a really good one like a really. well done one easy blade at a souped up. charger look at it that's what he drove. around in you someone should make like a. blade themed again that's just charger. with auto drags on it or center lines. yeah but it doesn't have to look exactly. like that but a blade themed 69 Charger. like if he had one that went through. your shop like if blade came to your. shop said I want to kill vampires oh. good you know what I'm saying like what.

would you build them I'll send you guys. the artwork but that's that's the Road. Runner right now but it's more why. change the subject because we're talking. about blade if blade came to you right. now and wanted to make fine I'll do a. charer I'll do him a. charger which if he's trying to run from. vampires how uh well could you get a. 6869 charge to handle that's a lot of. front end sheet metal there there's. stuff available now that yeah not yeah. there's there's plenty of stuff what. could you do to balance it out in fact.

the well on. this road runner I have a brand new. suspension from Heights that's a ifs and. IRS from well I just said from Heights. let's explain to people that don't know. what the [ __ ] we're talking about indep. re suspension independent front. suspension yes um so it's it's really. trick stuff and it's new for them what. about like a rear trans axle to balance. out the weight you you could even though. they're the the road runners weren't.

super heavy they they're about 3600 lb. right but the charger oh the same thing. it's it's a b body basically the same. body it's the same thing so they weren't. that heavy they were how heavy about 38. 3,800 that's or so yeah well what did. you think of that one that someone built. that they made all carbon did you ever. see that yes I'm familiar they've done. quite a few of them yeah speed core is. that speed core mhm see if you can find. that speed core carbon charger cool cool. piece for sure that probably drives.

great cuz the lightweight oh and it's on. a brand new modern chassis look at that. thing yeah Billet probably the grills. Billet or or see or so an all carbon. fiber exterior yeah so the body sits. down over the chassis and that's how it. sits that low what do you think that. thing weighs a lot less but probably not. a lot less that you think because Parts. still weigh right of course so like just. removing the steel and replacing it with. carbon save 500 lbs yeah it might be um.

low 3000s like 31 32 which is that's. probably amazing then mhm yeah sure look. at that thing where are you going to. park. that somewhere you'd be terrified. somewhere safe you'd be terrified if. someone dinging your doors no yeah you. got a goddamn carbon fiber car look at. that thing yeah you're not pound of the. dents out yeah what do you do if you get. an accident a carbon fiber car they have. to refab completely new panels for you. you either put a new one on or probably.

well it depends if it's the quarter. panel that might be a problem like if. you get hit in the rear fender you. replace the fender if you get hit in the. rear they probably have to redo your. whole car yeah well it's kind of. like expensive fiberglass surgery you. can buy rear bumpers at least so you can. buy a carbon fiber charger bumper looks. like they have yeah but the bumper is. not what I'm worried about I'm worried. about the quarter panels the roof you. know cuz if you get somebody rear ends. you or hits you from the the side it's. going to [ __ ] up all that stuff right I.

guess you can't think about that you. just have to be cool y driving around. Yep they're doing that with quite a few. hot rods now right like I know there's a. a company that makes classic Recreations. they do a uh complete carbon fiber GT500. you seen that right was someone doing. that GT old older one yeah 67 GT500. class carbon classic Recreations is. doing it oh cool I know find I know. there's a guy that's doing the uh they. do the. charger that.

one um and there's a 69 Camaro that's. that's all carbon so see what it looks. like yeah look at. that that's insane yeah that's probably. very light right now it's again that's. an even smaller car right it's gonna be. lighter yes yeah the must thing is. lighter and smaller if you had gu 67. right what if you had a guess what do. you think that thing weighs I bet you. it's still around 3,000 or so again I'm.

right but depends what engine it depends. what suspension it. depends everything it says scroll up a. little bit it's interesting that all the. carbon companies that are doing this. don't talk about aw keep going Jamie for. the top of the page so I can see what it. said it it was saying something about. the um the. horsepower where the oh do they do a. turnkey car I mean you might have been. hovering and over the engine part of it. is that what it is 545 horsepower so. it's a 427 crate engine. mhm which is probably all you need if.

it's that light oh it's more than fine. for D got be. amazing oh you could do a coyote gen 3. with a supercharger that's 770. horsepower if you're a [ __ ]. psycho right if you're a [ __ ] psycho. if you're a [ __ ] psycho and you want. a carbon fiber car that weighs nothing. if you're just GRE with 770 horsepower. that'll probably get you to uh to the. store on time without much difficulty. you ain't going in store in that oh why.

not putting groceries in the back SE. live dangerously go to Ralph's yeah I. bet some people do with it yeah you know. there's there's I'm sure there's people. that take their hot rods around as daily. drivers you I met a guy once in uh I. drive mine do you every day not every. day I have to use my truck to what are. you driving Well normally I use my work. truck my yeah but when you're not. driving to work oh I got I got a really. fun little uh which again I oh did I put. on the thumb drive I have a 64 olds.

little cutless that I built for cross. country driving so it's got modern air. conditioning like Vintage Air and. dynamite sound deading and um I have. these really wonderful seats from. Porsche Panamera cut seven Ines off of. it and it's got they're like 18 way. power show pictures heated and cooled. did I have do I have anything on there. it's I have a 64 Fury nope that's the. brand new Fury that's we just finished. that do you have it on your website nope.

that's not up yet either you don't have. your own car on your website it was on. my TV show oh okay well how could we see. that then I don't know was it rides was. an episode of rides no no my I oh that. TV show yeah the um handbuilt hot rods. that's right I was on one of them. episodes oh there it is that's right. your car yeah there it is so um Merc. Mercedes quartz blue with uh uh. basically a Ferrari saddle tan pretty. much your daily driver yeah that's the.

thing I put around in [ __ ] yeah yeah. it's really nice car it's made to be. comfy uh driving you know anywhere it's. beautiful so and like you know all the. other stuff probably for the last 15. years or no let me see 10 yeah 13 years. uh same great cast of characters uh I. definitely want to shout out because am. as I've said before in other interviews. and other things I am no man is an. island I am surrounded by talent and. Jam's an island okay Jamie's an island.

all right well hi there says it all the. time hi there Island Jamie I what are. you doing Jamie cuz I'm an island he. just walks away and everybody just are. you a Rock Island boy I'm not are you a. rock do you know your old songs he's not. an island Bo you're a rock you're an. island as Paul Simon would say um oh. yeah that's right uh painter Master uh. Mick Jenkins at mix paint um my interior. gu gabes these are all the same people. on your Nova um unbelievably wonderful. family it's Dad and the sons working so.

such a cool deal the interior guys and. then my guys as I've already babbled uh. Kelly and then there's Troy Bray who's. um a just a fantastic all around. everything he can just do whatever I ask. him um and then a new kid named Tommy I. do got to throw out U all those big deal. cars there was the Anvil that you looked. at mhm and then we took a we didn't have. a year off we had a couple others we. finished and then we did a car called. the the um Martini Mustang that we went.

to SEMA and that took the Ford design. award again car of the show and then the. next year we took the twin turbo Camaro. and that won the GM design award car of. the show and then the next year we came. with the Fairlane the Black Ops Fairlane. and that won the Ford design award car. of the show so were the only shop I know. of and again I say with with thankful. because I had such amazing employees and.

people around me putting up that's a. heavy schedule to do three out of thee. Park cars three years in a row that's. nobody sleeping lit that's nobody. sleeping for sure and uh don't know of. another shop that's done that ever the. congratulations for so I'm very again. very thankful to those guys and uh back. then there was a guy who had worked for. me for about 18 years named Pete and he. just moved back to Washington to be near. his folks and all so he's got a place. called muscle car Beach I follow him on. Instagram Pete Pete Hart skull um so.

just really you know it's I'm so lucky. that I got all these people putting up. with me because I literally wake up at. 3: in the morning and come up with these. ideas and start sketching the ideas and. oh my gosh we got to do this you know. and then they're like okay and yeah and. they and they then they put up and and. do so really really really um thankful. for that and as you know you you know. you've got a great team here with Island. over there and yeah you need a team you.

need a team for great yeah I couldn't do. this [ __ ] thing without Jamie I'd be. lost first of all you know how slow I. Google he Googles faster than me with. one. hand you like it always flipping. switches yeah I love it down here I do. yeah I love it three years ago mhm it's. a different way of life like uh yeah it. gets really hot in the summer but that. doesn't seem to bother me uh what what I. really enjoy is how nice people are. they're it's a different kind of nice. they're like real regular nice people.

they're not Hollywood nice I think I. think I really believe that everywhere. in Southern California like just the. overall vibration of the area is in some. way affected by the vast amount of. people that are seeking stardom and want. to be something special and want to be. seen and you know I'm obviously guilty. of that cuz I'm you know comedian and. all the other stuff I've done so I I was. a part of it I understand it I'm not.

criticizing the people that are doing it. but I'm saying that it does affect the. way people communicate with each other. especially because of acting because. acting is like the number one thing that. people came to La for back in the day it. was the the number one thing if you were. a kid and you had a dream you wanted to. be a movie star you came to LA and along. the way these people realized like the. only way to get chosen for roles you. have to have be this Daniel de Lewis. like super mysterious Ultra talented. person who everybody worships or you had.

to play the game so you had to say all. the things that the producers wanted you. to say you had to support all the. political causes you had to check all. the boxes you couldn't think outside the. box at all and there's a way of. communicating that people have in La. that it's like signaling that they're a. part of this tribe signaling they're. part of this very Progressive Ultra. left-wing ideology and everybody has to. subscribe to it regardless of the. consequences that it has on the city or. the crime or the chaos or all all the.

other stuff and it's just I think it's. tempered by this desire that people have. that live to fit in because they want to. be cast in things like you think about. someone who's an actor you're probably. already [ __ ] up you're probably. already insecure which is why you want. this exorbitant amount of attention you. probably had a bad childhood or whatever. it was whatever whatever it was you were. not St able and you you go so far that. you desire this exorbitant amount of. attention then what you have to do is. you have to get in front of casting.

agents so people get to pick you they. have to choose whether or not you're. good choose whether or not you're worthy. and your your self-esteem is based on. whether or not you get picked and so. there's these people that are constantly. in this cycle of rejection constantly in. the cycle seeking acceptance and. rejection and then they see people that. make it and they're Furious why isn't it. me like I had a friend and he he was. dating this gal and she was an actress. too and he got a role on a TV show he. was so excited and he told her about it. and she started crying saying when is. something going to happen for me it's.

the first thing she said I was like. dude that's not good like that's not but. that is super super common and that's a. lot of like what flavors the. consciousness of Los Angeles it has an. effect on it and out here it that. doesn't exist right it's different I. agree and and um for me I was really. happy to find uh agreeing with you to.

find SEI Valley because I'm from oh yeah. very different when when let's go back. at the beginning of the conversation I'm. from applean you know that's that's a. handshake is your word you know it's. real simple real simple background Mike. sells moonshine yeah so see me again not. not for a game of name dropping but I. know uh like my friend Etso that has. bomb hogi my favorite little place to. get Philly cheese steaks which you can't.

find for [ __ ] out in California does. yummy stuff I know like donish the. manager at my at my bank I know Neil who. has well of course East Coast Pizza um. you know I know their names I know these. people because it's it's it's got that. small town feel to it right it's not. just in and out and you have no time to. meet any anybody or know anybody or you. know what I mean um I've been out there. cuz tan tactical that's out in SEI. Valley and it's it's just a normal.

neighborhood it's a normal Community. that's sort of divorced from a lot of. what Al's LA and I know you you had gone. there to from past times are just. telling me do you still go back and yeah. when I'm in La yeah if I'm in LA and I. have time I go back there shave in. another five minutes since I'm around. the corner well often times I'm there on. Sunday and letop let me know that's cool. I didn't know if you if you went back I. know you liked it yeah it's good to know. I mean if you have a gun it's good to. know how to really use it yeah you know.

and uh he's the best that guy's awesome. he's such a great does he give you. instructions oh yeah it's instructions. oh it's not just here's a range and go. no no no no no you're getting you're. getting taught by a master I mean Taran. is like a multiple time world champion. in those shooting competitions yeah I I. did not know it was an instructional. thing yeah he trained Keo Reeves there. for John. oh yeah he trained um uh Michael Jordan. Michael B Jordan he trained him from a. bunch of his movies he's trained um just.

a host of people I was there with Rob. low I I've been there with multiple. comedians I took my friend Shen Gillis. there it's like he he trains people like. literally from the very beginning how to. correctly hold the pistol how to brace. it correctly what amount of pressure you. put with your left hand versus your. right hand how to line the sights up he. teaches you like how to do everything. correctly that's awesome that K Reeves. has said so when he's filming it he's. looking like he actually is shutting. shooting a gun super legit if you watch.

John Wick he looks super legit he. absolutely knows what he's doing because. Taran trained him I mean everything he. does is exactly how you would do it how. long have you known Taran Taran Taran t. a r n years I don't know many years I. think uh I first went there um I forget. who brought me there honestly hm I. forget who brought me there but you know. you go there for like an hour and he. coaches you it's great couple hours. maybe and you'll always have new people. there bet uh Chad teski the guy who uh.

produced and directed he actually wrote. and did he write John Wick or did he he. directed it and produced it yeah I think. he at least if he didn't write it by. himself he definitely co-wrote sure yeah. um so I met him there um I met like a. bunch of really cool people there he's. always having like like the the King of. Jordan was just there training with him. yeah it's wild like he he trains people. he's he's that good like he trains. people from all does he do just Firearms. or does he do bow and arrow just. Firearms oh yeah they do throw hatchets.

too. so he shows you how to throw a hatchet. because there's a lot of stuff that. people use in movies and in John Wick. movies and things like skill sets yeah. yeah but yeah Hal Berry trained there. there's all these videos of her learning. how to you know shoot shoot a pistol I I. don't know if I've ever spoke with you. about it I always growing up I fiddled. with archery bow and arrows fast name me. and then and you know uh NJ sure and. he's whackmaster as as his brand is um.

do you no you got into that too right. weren't you hunting weren't you doing. that too yeah I still do it yeah I just. got back I just got back from an an elk. hunt in Utah oh yeah bow hunting bow. hunting yeah yeah practice every day I. was out in my yard today practicing oh. cool yeah yeah always for me yeah for me. that's. harder than than guns of course I mean. guns take a skill set for sure oh yeah. no guns aren't easy it's not easy to. kill a deer with a rifle I mean you. could get lucky and one can be close but.

if you're in the mountains it's very. difficult to get close to them you have. to understand the wind and how to sneak. up on them it's easyer with a rifle. because you could take a 200 yard shot. ethically whereas with a bow you really. want to get inside of 60 yards if you. can right and then have the AIM and you. have to be really good yeah and then the. aim and you have to be able to keep your. nerves together yeah yeah I was always. there's a lot going on fascinated with. it and I I my dad because my area again. AB believe again uh a lot of hunting. fishing that kind of stuff so uh that.

was promoted it's an amazing way to get. food it really is like your food has a. be a very it's a very realistic way to. get your food you just have a very. different connection with what your food. is you know when I eat an elk steak it's. a very different connection than if I. eat like a steak that I got from HB you. know explain well you were there when. this like the the last one I killed was. my favorite because it was so old it was. an 11-year-old elk and his teeth were. all worn out like when we open his J.

that's about as old as you get in the. mountains like you might live to be 13. but probably not and uh during the rut. when they're breeding they don't eat a. lot of the time so they lose a ton of. weight because they're just run around. chasing tail and literally no pun. intended yeah no pun intended and then. um during the winter it's rough it's. rough because they have to eat as much. as they can after the rut and by that. time it might already be snowing so the. grass might be getting covered up and. it's harder to get food and you know if. you're not lucky you could freeze to.

death in the winter because you don't. have enough fat and it happens to them. all the time that's generally how they. go out or a cat gets them right and it's. one of the two is probably coming you. know or they can get injured and a cat. catches them limping and then that's a. wrap you know there it's a [ __ ] hard. scrab of life so that was my favorite. because you got him at we got him at the. right time 11 years old is like that's a. really good time that's a real mature. Wise Old elk that you just caught. slipping you know and so when I'm eating.

that I'm I'm eating something that I. work really hard to get to I practice. really hard I got in really good shape. did all these things to work on my aim. work on my my my Precision with my. shooting and just work on you know all. the things the cardio all the things. that you have to do to do it so it's. just a very different connection than. just I'll still eat a steak at a. restaurant I still love them there just. so great but it's just a different. experience right well sure yeah it's. more uh definitely more personal it's. definitely more personal but it's also.

more honest you know it's it's a much. more honest exchange you know especially. if you're getting some factory farm [ __ ]. like there's a lot of weird Karma that. comes with that you know there's a lot. of weird Karma it's so easy to get a. chicken sandwich you know it's so easy. to pull into a drive-thru and get a. chicken sandwich but if you had to see. the life that chicken lived you'd. probably be pretty [ __ ] horrified you. know there's a lot of the chickens we. buy I'm sure you've seen those chicken. trucks that're driving down the street.

on the highway and they're just stuffed. with chickens and you're like yo that's. that's a [ __ ] up. life or did you ever see the one where. the pigs um there was a car accident I. think and the pigs jumped out of the. [ __ ] truck and they were like. splattered all over the highway they. they they you know tried to. escape yeah not good so so like I said. it's a very different thing oh sure no. agreed understood so you're still. hunting obviously you just came back. from Once yeah it's also it's a good.

reset for me because uh you know I do. this weird thing where everybody listens. to me talk it's very strange you know. the whole thing is very strange and you. could get a very inflated sense of your. worth and your your your perspective and. your place on Earth but when you're in. the mountains that's literally. impossible oh you know exactly you you. know how tired you get when you go up. the hill you know what a [ __ ] you are. you know you know in comparison to these. other animals that are out there hunting. these things you are not you're only an.

apex predator because you have a bow. that's that's about it that's it in fact. that is it it's the only reason and then. you know it's you're also encountering. this unforgiving uncaring. beautiful landscape it's not just a. landscape it's a realm M fair enough. when when you're there it's like when. you're in the actual wild it's a realm. it's a different realm than the realm we. exist in I know you can just walk into. it but once you are in there you are.

living inside this ancient system this. ancient system of tooth and Claw this. ancient system of breeding and survival. and predators and and carnivores and and. and these animals that are just just. there to pick up the mess the vultures. that's swooping and the birds and it's. just a [ __ ] wild place to be man and. it just completely resets. me just I I understand and agree yeah.

that you have good uh. reverence um long time ago I met a. couple of uh. Indians Native American that um tried to. follow basically their lineage and um. the discussion was that the same vein of. the respect of. that you you described it well that. realm it is a it is like a realm you. know the real that's why it's so. disappointing when you find garbage.

that's the saddest thing when you're on. like you know some public Trail and you. see like a water bottle that someone. just discarded like Oh no you're. bringing our [ __ ] into this. incredible realm yeah in that realm. there's no garbage it doesn't exist. everything gets eaten everything that. dies gets consumed by the Earth it. becomes fertilizer for the trees it. becomes food for all these creatures. that that live there it's all a cycle. it's an insanely perfect cycle and when.

you're there it's just like okay it just. puts it all in perspective it's also. [ __ ] thrilling man like when you're. around these animals it's th you see an. eagle fly overhead it's like wow it's. thrilling Big Bird and California a few. years back I watched a golden eagle uh. grab a rabbit real big bird oh man it. was it was awesome he swooped in and we. saw it just we were driving in a truck. and we saw it just at the very end there. was like this rabbit that was like right.

underneath the the the branches of this. tree and this Eagle just swooped in and. grabbed it and just grabbed it on the. ground and started flapping its wings. and going up this little Hill with it we. were like holy. [ __ ] I um again from the background. where I'm from lot of farms and lot of. mobsters too well there was that yep but. a lot a lot of farms worked you know. when I was younger chucking hay bales. and uh would because of being around. barns see um owls H oh they're amazing.

they are they are they you everyone's. like owls are so fascinating and cool. and neat I'm like they are a coldblooded. assassin ruthless nightstalkers ruthless. and absolutely silent yeah they're they. make no noise they are the nature. Hitman have you ever seen the video it's. a a trail camera video that they set up. on this nest of hawks so these Hawks in. this nest and and they're sitting there.

at night just looking around this owl. comes in from the the background you see. his eyes in the distance and just. snatches them watch this cuz it's. amazing he he they are this is what an. owl is it's not give a hoot don't. pollute it's not this is the way you get. to the library they are they are this. they are assassins so look in the. distance and you'll see the eyes soon. there they are watch this here they. come here no no no no no they'll they'll. just appear well I'm sure he'll make. real quick work of.

it here he comes watch this look at the. eyes oh bam and that other that other. one is like what where's my brother what. just happened what the [ __ ] like I said. just absolutely silent and unbelievably. efficient look at the eyes. man that's a demon wh I mean that is a. demon it's just a fluffy demon fluffy. demon if that thing was doing that to. people and it was covered in like lizard. scales we would say oh my God it's a. demon yeah but because it's got feathers.

for some reason we like like to think. this thing is this wise cute thing in. the forest now I've I've watched them. hunt and it's I I think the thing was. most fascinating to me is they're. absolutely silent yeah there's no noise. you know the the prey has no idea that. things coming yeah i' when we were just. leaving California we found one that. looked like it been poisoned it's a real. bummer man an owl yeah because what.

happens is people poison rats um if. people have rats in their uh garbage. they'll put rat poison out the rats eat. the poison the owls eat the rats and the. rats and. theis and so this I'm you know I'm not a. an expert in owls but there was. something really wrong because it was. sitting in the front door of our house. and it was literally the day before we. moved to to Texas oh just sitting there. the old. the symbolic it was to me it was almost.

like symbolic of the life I knew here. dying that I had that I had to leave it. that's how little guy big guy like about. that big regular siiz owl it was an. mature owl he was a mature owl but it. was [ __ ] up man it was just like just. [ __ ] up just trying to move a little. and could move its wings it it was very. very very sad and I know where I lived. was very hilly there's a lot of rats. there's a lot of coyotes there's a lot. of wildlife out there so I'm assuming.

that someone poisoned it because it was. a you know suburban community and people. don't want rats in their garbage they. don't understand the food chain but I. think that was a real problem that was. killing off a lot of owls see if that's. that's documented because I think that. was a real problem in the Hollywood. Hills as. well uh that they were people were. poisoning and the rat poison was killing. owls it's a bummer man but you know. there's something about. those I don't know how they got labeled.

the way they got labeled like I don't. know how they got a monole and a a book. like something happened yeah that that. would be the wise right the wise old owl. rat poison from marijuana Farms is. harming federally threaten Northern. spoted owls so it's yeah it's a thing. it's not I'm sure it's not the just the. marijuana Farm I know people in my. neighborhood were using rat poison I. know they cuz people would ask you how. do you deal with the rats well it. doesn't sound like it's a far-fetched.

Theory that's for sure no do you know. how how smart rats are that if you leave. some poison I had rats as pets did you. yes have you ever seen the Netflix show. rats no oh my God there's an amazing. documentary on on Netflix called rats. and you watch it and you just go what. like you don't understand the scope of. the rat problem in this country. like you don't know that there's more. the same I think they think it's the. exact biomass I think in New York City. the biomass of rats surpasses the.

biomass of humans so if you weade all. the people in New York City I think the. rat biomass is actually either the same. or. larger that's how many rats there are in. New York City Yay see if that's. true I I know that I've read multiple. they don't have an accurate estimation. of the Rat. huge different number it's like 2. million or 50 million if it's 2 million. it's 25% of the human population there. and if it's 50 million it's it's way. more that's what I mean it's depends on.

how many they really are I bet it's 100. million [ __ ] rats of New York City. are it's insane how many I'm very. familiar yeah and this documentary shows. how intelligent they are and one of the. things they do if you leave poison in uh. like a rat tunnel where the rats go the. rats will get a young stupid rat to go. eat the poison it's like hey man look at. that food and they'll sit back and watch. the old rats will sit back and watch and. the young rat goes over starts eating. poison and they go yep thought so and. they take off like they know there's.

videos of rats setting rat traps with. sticks have you seen this no pull that. totally believable they set up a rat. trap and this rat walks over and picks. up a stick and drops it on the rat trap. so it can get the. cheese like that's how [ __ ] smart. they are sure those little creeps those. little creeps those watch this so look. at this rat oh yeah it's a rat right. it's not a mouse it says mouse trap but. isn't that a.

rat like the tail I don't know what is. that that looks small enough to be a. mouse but it could be a rat either way. whatever this [ __ ] thing is watch. this WOW snap with a [ __ ] stick man. like it knows how to set that thing off. and it didn't even Flinch you imagine. you don't know that that's going to. happen and you drop a stick on something. and explodes that watch that mouse or. rat or whatever the [ __ ] it is that. thing oh you're right he didn't he he. didn't freak out because the smart yeah. world's smartest rat so it is a rat.

watch this dude this [ __ ]. doesn't even Flinch watch drops it on. there not a budge yeah not at all just. like cracking a safe if it's a rat do. you think maybe this kid trained it. trained it yeah that's not afraid yeah. it didn't just happen randomly yeah it's. probably for the clicks cuz he used to. teach him play the basketball where I. was from maybe what it might be for the. clicks or it might be a legit video of. how [ __ ] smart rats were like he was. trying to figure out how are these. [ __ ] not dying maybe he just.

kept a rat trap in the same spot over. and over and over again and eventually. they realized oh every time it snaps. then a rat gets killed but the food's. still there yeah well this account is M. he's got mouse trap Monday so he's got. must have oh so he's like running. experiment that's a mouse he deals in. the picture if that's if that's his. buddy pal was the other one a mouse or a. rat though stunt Mouse so this is the. guy that did that little video yeah so I. I was noticing this account had like 2. million followers on I was like this. might be says Mouse says mouse trap.

Monday so they look like mice in that. little thing that he's holding right. right so he must have trained mice and. he probably incentivizes them to snap. the Trap yeah the theory of what pavo's. dog or whatever repeat repeat learn I. wonder how he taught them how to set a. trap with a [ __ ] I wonder how many. died trying to figure it out I know. right he probably sacrificed a lot of. his little pets the uh the the dark side. to mous trap Monday yeah the very dark.

side to mous trap Monday what are you. doing over there. man yeah I know right if like if you're. running. tests someone's have to use mice try. check I bet he would have the video of. him teaching it if he did do that too. cuz that would get that would get some. views you know yeah it's a strange thing. are I mean it's obviously that we have. this distaste for rats and mice because. they they carry these bugs they carry. the plague and they carry diseases and.

they document that in the Netflix. special too the Netflix special shows. like some of them have plague there's. like some of yeah they they catch I mean. obviously not a lot of people are. getting bitten by rats but if you were. you'd be [ __ ] there's a lot of them. that are just. horrific now I have to congratulate you. for what on something you may not. no so are you like a [ __ ] I don't I. talk with my hands what do you. want you mean I know what is it so I got.

together with a guy named Drew Harden. who's been an editor at like think got. hot rod Roden custom bunch of different. books and he's written books like books. he had a book called Hot Rod Magazine. all the covers which covered up to no. pun all the way up to 2009 hot rod. started in 1947 so all the way up to. 2009 every cover ever printed right and. then he he just released a new book um. like the history of Hot Rod Magazine. right which begat every Automotive.

magazine that was the first and Mr. Peterson I mean he had everything he had. hot rod he had Field and Stream Better. Homes and Gardens like every made. Popular Science every book you could. think of was him if I remember right. anyway. so I because of your latest. covered uh asked Drew hey man how many. how many cars uh have ever been have. been on the Hot Rod Magazine twice and I.

have every issue of hot rod from 47 to. now but it's easier to to ask someone. who's like written a book about the. covers and go through every one of them. and we found uh 14 cars that had been on. the cover. twice. but I said hey how many cars have been. in the cover three. times and there's. five and one of.

them I mean it made the criteria it was. on the cover three times but it was hot. red Magazine's Crusher Camaro so I'm. like oh that's insider trading the. editors can put their own car on the. cover but nevertheless but your. Nova was on shared cover with my Buick. funny car Skylark it's clearly in the. cover that was part of the criteria is. the vehicle if if there's more than one. car in the cover is it on purpose and.

yours was on purpose it's on the side. it's not even back there it's here and. then it was on the cover in bare metal. built and then brand new out right now. in the new stands Rod so you are one of. five cars ever in the history of Hot Rod. Magazine to be on the cover three times. that's pretty [ __ ] cool which is. congratulations sir thank you very much. what does it look like on the cover show. me the cover of the mag do you have oh. I've got it in my briefcase I'll send. one back to you I brought one for up. right now yes you will brand new issue.

of H Hot Rod Magazine um I've got it on. my phone but he'll find it I'm sure. Jamie will find yeah well he's an island. you know he's an island he'll find it. he's a he's a rock wow pretty cool um so. but now no pressure out to our our our. editor on trying to get on four times is. that what you're trying to do no no. we're all done with that card okay I was. going what's his pressure talk no no. John McAn who's the curtain editor of. Hot Rod Magazine which we thank for for.

for the for the wonderful cover did you. find it yeah um if I'm putting it out. there putting it out there to the car. Universe if he gets the opportunity or. wishes to feature the your there you go. is Hot Rod remixed dope um your sickish. 2.0 that the Roadster shop did a. wonderful beautiful. job if they feature it again and if the. gods of hot rod deem it so to put it on.

the cover I'm putting it out there if no. pressure John but if if that happened. you would be the only human on the. planet to own two vehicles one that's. been on the cover twice cuz sick fish. was on the cover once in bare metal. right and then the Nova is on the cover. three times you would be the only human. in history someone can have that someone. else can have I don't know I'm just. saying it's okay why do I know I just. hey I don't know if John's featuring it. or if they put on the cover it's a.

prestigious thing but it's a neat thing. yeah it's cool the cars cool I just like. them for what they are you know I you. know what and that's really true I've. talked with a lot of people because they. ask me because obviously you're well. known uh for this gig and I think you're. just ripping me funny we'll watch you. tonight by the way gonna go down and. watch you um and they're uh. my car World guys are like is he really. like a Gearhead I'm like you know what I. don't think he's outw wrenching on it.

but I know he has a very deep totally. digs it thinks it's wonderful think it's. cool I don't wrench on him but he's not. on this to like look cool owning one you. actually really like them no I love them. even when I'm not driving them I I go in. my garage I stare at sitting there look. you know what that's a there's a great. thing that's been said um again within. my world you got the wrong car if you. don't park it walk away and turn around. to look at it again yeah if you do that. you got the right car for you man you.

you turn around you look at you go that. thing's badass man sometimes I don't. even have to drive it I just sit in sit. and look at it it's art it really is. these kind of old cars in particular. that especially like that Nova that you. made is a piece of art and to me I get a. much greater satisfaction out of that. kind of art than I do a lot of art I. love art obviously you see the studio. love art I love when people make things. I love human expression I love it in I. like custommade pool cues I like when.

people make shoes I like I like stuff I. like people make knives cars that's what. I like I like when I see a thing I know. that humans made it they they worked on. it their mind their creativity their. skill their their talent I love that and. it's interesting because obviously you. have a lot dexterity from from hunting. you know learning and and and use. utilizing firearms and and uh say bow. like we were talking do you have an.

outlet that is Artistic do you woodwork. do you do stuff anything like that. because you obviously have a high. appreciation for it no no I don't really. make anything no I don't just other than. jokes and you know podcasts um no I I um. did you ever want to no it's like to me. it's like music like I don't have any. music talent but I really appreciate. music you know I love that I can go I. love that I can't BL guitar but I can go. watch Gary Clark Jr and I'm like I just. don't even how the [ __ ] is he doing that.

the sounds is just magic I love it I. love that I have no connection to it I. love that kind of stuff I love things. that I I don't have any skill in doing I. love watching people you appreciate yeah. I appreciate it I appreciate human. expression I think that we all do yeah. oh I definitely do there's human. expression in a lot of forms and uh for. me when I was a kid growing up the. [ __ ] coolest thing in the world were. hot rods when I was 15 16 when I was you.

know getting my learner permit and about. to get a driver's license all of us in. the town that I grew up in in Newton. Massachusetts all my friends everyone. was obsessed with cars we were all. obsessed with Camaro and Firebirds and. everyone was obsessed with chel and yeah. that is burned in my brain the the we. used to go there was a uh God I wish I. could remember his name because he was. so cool there was an autoshop teacher. this old Irish guy he was [ __ ] great.

he was hilarious and we always wanted to. take autoshop class because he was just. a regular guy you could hang out with. him right and he was only into Mustangs. like old Mustangs and he had these old. Mustangs and we'd all work on these. Mustangs and [ __ ] Bondo them and fix. things yeah learn this and that but it. was just I developed this appreciation. for what those things are and the magic. that they instill in some people I it's. not everybody some people see them. they're like oh it's noisy it's loud it. stinks but other people see him they go.

oh and that was me and that's still me. so to this day so that's why I like. those cars those cars to me are like how. someone wants to buy a van go they want. to put this you know this [ __ ]. Jackson Pollock painting in their wall. and they'll sit there and I'll have a. glass of wine and they'll stare at that. and that's for them and I love painting. too I love art too but there's a there's. the art that really [ __ ] gets my. juices going is functional art like a. car because that's what it is it's a.

piece of functional art it is a piece of. fun I I agree completely and it's and. it's the exper that's what drives me is. the to create it and build it yeah and. then when I'm done with that I'm like. really I love it and then I can't wait. to do the next thing I'm going to create. and and do and build and that's that's. the excitement for me is the design and. then the make it yeah so that's really. what your good fortune is you found this. thing that you're really good at oh. unbelievably for love and that you love.

that's the good fortune and then also. you've attracted like-minded great. people to do these things with you yes. that's the really good fortune yeah. unbelievably fortunate that I as or as a. joke they put up with me you know and. and help um Forge this stuff that I no. they're cool people too it's a good vibe. like every time I've gone to your shop. it's a fun vibe yeah they're you know. what they are or the the term I use is. because plenty of people say you know. good people I I I say they're good. humans yeah they're just a a good human.

being good Fisher. folk they're nice nice Fisher folk. that's today's word Fisher. [Music]. folk frightening word but yet it's not. really yeah but yeah I I am that's a. thing and that's really thankful for my. the the my I call it the shop family. because I got my guys right the current. crop of uh Troy and Kelly and then our. new boy Tommy and then my Su guys as.

I've already said Mick and gabes those. guys I consider an an arm off of my shop. because they become involved with it. sure they treat my stuff like it's. something yeah you know they they they. put the care into it and they're Talent. into it and so it it it is a group of. like like you said like minded guys that. um you know and they and they care that. their names on it yeah they actually. want want to do a good job your story is. cool is cu your story you know building. that first car in the garage like that.

or the barn yeah yeah all but all that. stuff that's what people need to hear. like that there's a path to finding what. it is you do and uh that path is going. to be weird and it's going to take a. long time sometimes it's difficult and. it's not going to be easy and you're. going to [ __ ] struggle but you can do. it people can do it people have done it. and maybe you didn't do it this time so. pick yourself up and try it again and. keep doing it and keep trying to find. that thing and if you could find that. thing you'll have a happier life yeah I.

am and thank you for recognizing that. because I agree with that it's like you. know you you've actually got to work. hard at this it's hard whatever it is it. doesn't it doesn't have to be building a. car how long did that Nova take to build. that took a long time obviously a lot of. that was your eye issues but it took a. long [ __ ] time it takes a long time. to make something right now if I had. nothing else to do and we just did that. it would have be done much even Hammer. how many years did that take a couple of. years yeah years years of every day. working on that's what people need to.

understand this is not something that. gets made quick oh no it is a long time. I remember going to visit you and like. you know seeing the process from the. very beginning the bare frame and. we measure my height and make sure the. the windshield is a perfect size it's. all fitted for you it's it's amazing. it's really really [ __ ] cool it's fun. it's great you know what you do is uh. it's it's much appreciated and you've. done a really cool thing with this too. because this is evolved and grown and. and done things it's it's interesting to.

me because I. I watched there was the comedian thing. and then there was this thing because. this. isn't funny yeah you know what I mean. it's well that's the thing the comedians. are afraid of like they're afraid of. like you have to be funny always oh yeah. you've done a fantastic job a fantastic. job of uh separating church and state. almost well the real separation is the. UFC that's my real separation because. I'm not even remotely funny on the UFC.

true the UFC is just 100% see I don't. swim in those Waters cuz I don't but I. know of you being there obviously but. this it's like it's a completely. different gig it's a martial arts expert. gig and that's what I'm doing I'm just. like I'm analyzing choices I'm I'm. looking at like positions I'm looking at. the trends in the fight yeah you're. analyzing I'm trying to like give. Justice to what these guys are doing. like commentary not to pretend to. interview you but did you did you I I. think it just naturally happened I don't. think you on purpos set out to do these.

three things no the comedy and then The. Joe Rogan Experience this show and then. the commentary for the no for the. fighting they just those are just things. I like right and they just happened that. way it just happened that things I like. I wind up doing professionally yeah and. the UFC was uh but if you step away from. it it's very curious they're three very. different things yeah yeah but they're. all three things that I have a genuine. interest and passion for and I think I. learned something from all three of. those things and I think all three of.

those things for in my life they all. feed off of each other and they all help. each other they all work. symbiotically like being a a person who. talks to people all the time about. different paths different walks of life. like you know that informs you on the. way different think and the way. different people Express themselves the. way different people what they like and. what they don't like and then with MMA. it's like what's possible like talking. about Michael Bisping fighting 10 fights.

with one [ __ ] eye and winning the. world title you know know as a huge. Underdog in a last minute replacement. fight you you you see like the human. spirit in this very raw and just. unfiltered form that I don't think very. many people get to see it's it's it's a. wild type of human being that. participates in that and their the risk. they take and the rewards that they get. the highs they get this is an amazing. speech find Israel adna speech after he.

beat Alex Paha Israel adna who's one of. my favorite fighters of all time he. loses his title to this guy Alex peda. this guy Alex peda has beat him twice in. kickboxing one time he knocked him out. and then they're fighting in the UFC for. Israel adna's World title Israel loses. the title to him in a TKO then he comes. back 5 months later and knocks him out. and back it up and this is his the. speech that he get he said to me can I. have the microphone for a second I said. absolutely so watch this so let me just.

hold the mic. sir hey sure sh listen up I want to say. something people Earth I need to say. something listen to. me I hope every one of you behind your. screens or on this Arena can feel this. level of happiness. just one time in your life I hope all of. you can feel how happy I am just one. time in your life but guess what you.

never feel this level of Happiness if. you don't go for something in your own. life when they knock you down where they. try on you when they talk about you and. they try to put their foot on your neck. if you stay down you will never ever get. that resolve fortify your mind and feel. this level of Happiness as you rise. one time in your life but I'm blessed to. be able to feel this again and again and. again and again and. again beautiful that's the end of the. podcast that's life that's life right.

there ladies and gentlemen Steve stro I. appreciate you brother thank you very. much you thank you very much for the. opport a lot of fun man and I appreciate. your friendship thank you we again we'll. do have to do it again a masterpiece you. created a masterpiece you're a [ __ ]. awesome guy thank you all right bye. everybody see. [Music].