Joe Rogan Experience #2015 - Zach Bryan

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day what's happening baby to see you. brother how you doing and we're drinking. Bud Lights ladies and gentlemen sorry. guys sorry we're [ __ ] there's nothing. wrong with. itm people so cheers sir cheers brother. these people are so silly we were just. talking about how silly it is one person. made a really stupid decision now every.

has decided that Bud Light is the enemy. but that's like this thing that people. do in America where they just decide now. I hate the these people these people are. the enemy and you know and it's over. yeah and it's over the. reason I've drinking Bud Light and buwi. like my entire adult life and then on on. Twitter I defended my my sister's spouse. and people were like people were pissed. and I was like I'm so I didn't mean to. do this it was crazy and Travis trit. came after me and I was like he didn't. come after me Travis trit is so. respectable and he's like a good guy and.

I met him at the twostep in where you. were and it was just it was cool to get. to talk to him about it and see like two. different views and it was it was cool. sitting in the room with them and. hearing it well you know people just the. culture war in this country is so goofy. it's so overblown and a lot of it is. people just not talking to each other. it's people talking through social media. and talking through narratives and it's. just it freaks me out it freaks me out. and being so public you too as well it's. so scary I feel like it keeps people. from being who they actually are oh yeah.

which is terrifying cuz every time I get. anywhere I'm like [ __ ] man I can't say. or do this and then when you do it's. [ __ ] it's crazy it's PS there's a lot. of self-censoring but I think it's. important to speak your mind I think. it's getting better yeah it's just more. people have to do it and then more. people you know people are worried about. the repercussions but you have to. understand that when you're a person. like yourself or a person like me you're. communicating to millions of people and. so you're going to have a certain. percentage of them that are upset at.

everything you say whether you say you. like to eat meat or whether you say you. think Robert F Kennedy Jr is a good guy. or whether you think that you know. whatever the [ __ ] you think and you only. have one you only have one life man. allegedly yeah I guess I'm not sure. about that I'm not sure about that I uh. you ever a feeling you've been here. before no I uh I saw your podcast like. two years ago two years ago about the. infinity thing yeah and I kept telling. people about it like in Oklahoma and. stuff like what the isn't it weird that. that freaks people out like it freak.

people out like I love life I love my. family I love my friends I love my job I. love existing I enjoy it very much but. if I had to do this over and over again. forever for for Infinity it's a a weird. feeling it freaks people out have you. seen that Black Mirror episode no not to. be that guy noch of them there's a black. mirror episode where there in a cabin. and this guy's in prison for infinity. and he's talking to this guy over and. over and over again wow and there's the. new one the new season came out and the. same thing they're in space and they're. like coming down I'm not going to ruin. on it no no worries it's crazy it's an.

amazing show it freaks you out it's my. favorite show it's great show my wife. won't watch it with me really she thinks. it's scary she gets freaked out by it. yeah she doesn't like things that could. be real I get that I get that a lot of. people like when I bring it up they're. like I don't know and I'm like did you. ever see Heavy Metal huh that's the one. where the robots are chasing this. lady oh yeah the dogs didn't like that I. stopped watching it that one freaked me. out too much I was like no way that's so. close to real well the one about the. murder too there's a one where this.

chick like murders oh and she gets in. this like white lie of trying to hide. from it like she's like hiding it from. her kids and stuff yeah yeah crazy wow. it's just it's so close to real it's so. close to real there was a world economic. Forum video that they just put out about. people going to work and wearing earbuds. have you seen it Jamie going to work and. wearing earbuds that monitor your brain. waves and the brain wave are going to.

tell whether or not you're being. productive or distracted and in this. video this woman is kind of fantasizing. about a guy she works with and then. catches herself doing it and then some. guy gets busted for like is this a show. what is this it's just a video. explaining how in the future you're see. if you can find it I mean I'm seeing the. people talking about it dude you saying. this reminds me of yesterday I was in. Walmart and I was like walking around. and I was like looking for something to. buy and one of the girls I asked the. question to she had an airbud in or an. airpod in mhm and I was like why would. you do that you're like walking around.

work and people are asking you for help. and stuff and she's just walking around. like listening to she's like talking to. people with and listening to music kids. do that today my my kids do that they. have one ear open I was kind of I didn't. mean to I didn't mean to be an ass but I. was like I was talking to the guy at the. the few hours here it is yeah that's it. check this out yeah check this video out. this is this is Bonkers dude this is. really cursor to the left and scroll. through your brain data over the past. few hours you can stress levels Rising. training videos as the deadline to. finish your memo approach yeah and she's.

wearing these earbuds PE in your beta. brain wave activity right before an. alert popped up telling you to take a. brain break but what's that unusual. change in your brain activity this is. not the one I saw okay there's another. one that I saw that's that's scarier. than a Black Mirror episode but this the. other one's more scary because it talks. about like self-censoring at work and. monitoring your thoughts at work I can. see it God I sent it to somebody the. [ __ ] did I send it to I mean this video. on Tik Tok seems like I just saw the.

brain wave thing you just said come on. like that that's the same video Yep this. is it this is it this just a little. later there yeah okay so I had only seen. part of it that's it keep it. roll oh you got two going oh my God this. a nightmare this is black miror this. what I hear at night when email she sent. you later that day congrat oh this is. fine let this play quarter no it's. before this performance it's before this.

where she's fantasizing about this guy. it that's the guy how do you smoke pot. and watch stuff like. that Rance back up but you can't help. fantasizing starts to you take a quick. look at my brain data anything to worry. about the doctor your mind starts to. wander to the new colleague on your team. way you know you shouldn't be anything. about given the policy against inra. office romance but you can't help. fantasizing. just but then you start to worry that.

your boss will notice your Amorous. feelings when she checks your brain. activity shift your attention back to. the present imagine all the shitty. things you've thought of at work and. your boss knowing congratulations on. your brain metric bra from the past. quarter which have earned you another. performance bonus so you get bonuses. jamming to the music with your work for. think a certain. way when you arrive at work where is. going cloud has fallen over the office.

along with emails text messages and GPS. location data the government has. subpoena employees brainwave data from. the past year they have compelling. evidence that one of your co-workers has. committed massive wire fraud now they're. looking for his. co-conspirators you discover they are. looking for synchronized brain activity. between your coworker and the people he. has been working with while you know.

you're innocent of any crime you've been. secretly working with him on a new. startup Venture shaking you remove your. earbuds you know what's crazy about that. you know what's crazy about that I feel. like the world right now with all of our. phones is the same way cuz your phone. know everything about you yeah and. people can do that but it's not the same. but it's like it's getting there it. feels like it I mean the idea of being. able to collect data on everywhere you. walk I remember when I was I guess it. was like I want to say it was like 9 99.

2000 was the first GPS thing that I had. and you would load it I think with CDs. or DVRs I remember when GS came out and. my grandpa was going crazy he put it on. the dash of his truck and he's like. we're going to Texas and we know where. we're going yeah you you had a map with. you all the time but the one that I had. in the early days you could I only had. California because that's all the data. could fit and the California data was on. like a CD ROM or a DVD I can't remember. which one it was but it you had to load. it I remember and it was kind of clunky. but I was like this is wild this is like.

very early on with that kind of. electronics thinking about it now like. what's freaked me out the most in the. last like year of my life has been. friends of mine and people that I've met. and things I got a flip phone like six. months ago I was like man I called you. on it when I first started talking you I. was on my flip phone because I was. talking to a friend of mine and it was. like they were like well how are you. going to track how you going to know. where your friends are at like with the. tracking on iPhones and stuff like that. with you can like see your friends and. I'm like what do you mean right I don't.

think we're supposed to know where we're. all at and it's scary as [ __ ] why do I. want you to know that I'm at my house or. if I'm even your best friends in the. entire world are parents never did that. it's weird you know it's crazy it's. weird and then some people going to want. to know where you are all the time why. won't you let me know where you are Zach. yeah it's six years it's like seven. years ago I Snapchat cuz I saw the map. with all the [ __ ] heads on it and. kids are growing up like this bro it's. crazy my kids use that constantly. they're always tracking their friends. and I'm 27 I'm not allowed to say that. yet I don't you're still a kid I don't. know what age that is where you can. start saying the kids you know which is.

cringey to say you can say it at 27. after 25 you can kind of say it. occasionally that's how I feel yeah. after 25 I was like holy [ __ ] man life. is not then once you're 30 like oh my. God I'm a grownup I was told at 30 you. feel more I was told at 30 you feel like. more. settled depends on who you are sometimes. people aren't happy at 30 and then they. start panicking more because they. haven't gotten anything done my [ __ ]. I don't know about your 20s I don't know. what you did in your 20s but my 20s have. been like this crazy roller coaster that. have just like it hasn't stopped and I'm.

like holy [ __ ] this is what they meant. by the 20s or yeah psychotic I mean. you're just over being 10 yeah literally. 10 17 years ago and you feel like you. know everything man when you're 22 and. 23 it's so scary of course decisions and. [ __ ] you make it's crazy you got into. you got into making music well I say you. were successful making music while you. were still in the military right yes how. old were you 22 when I started wow I. started putting videos on Twitter and it. was was psychotic it was crazy cuz I did.

it for like I get all these messages all. the time from people who were like hey. man I was around when you release. heading south I've been here from the. beginning and I'm like wow really the. very beginning you know and um I started. putting videos on Twitter back in like. 2017 and then I just kept doing it and. doing it and doing it cuz I was in the. Navy I had a lot of [ __ ] going on I had. like I didn't believe in therapy cuz. that's crazy in the Navy you know and uh. I started just making music and I. started posting on Twitter and I'd get. like five or six likes and I didn't care.

it was nice it was nice to go home it. was nice to go home and feel the way I. did and write and put music on Twitter I. don't know it was kind of my validation. in the world of I can write a song at. least right and then man one I was I was. training in Florida and one day I put. like four or five videos up and they. just went like crazy viral and I was. like cool neat and then my life just. kept going up and up and up and I was. like at that time did have.

any what were your your aspirations. about recording no I didn't even know. what it was that's why my beginning. records are shitty you never thought. they're not shitty but see when I. recorded this when I recorded this I was. about to like go inside I was like. whatever I'll just throw this on the. internet and it was like an iPhone uhhuh. and it was like the number one voted. Reddit video in the entire like world I. think I don't know but I was like. getting calls from people I'm like what. the hell's going on everyone at work's. like you're going viral I was like what. and we're like literally like learning.

how to load missiles and [ __ ] I'm like. cool sick man and uh it's it's been. crazy and I never I never in my life. envisioned being a musician ever really. period no I thought I was going my my. old man was in the Navy for 25 years he. was a master chief my mom was in the. Navy my grandpa was in the Navy both. yeah just that that like whatever and I. was like I'm going to be in the Navy. till the day I die probably until I. retire at least and that was it that was. going to be my life and I was thinking.

about it yesterday how crazy my reality. is now like coming back to Oklahoma and. being around people and people like. coming to get me in diners and being. like take a picture of me I'm like what. is going on man there's like 700 people. hating me online I'm like bro I didn't. [ __ ] mean to do. this I don't I'm sorry it's crazy wow I. just kept going kept writing so when you. made your music you just made it for fun. you make it make it for yourself like. did you plan on no I just wanted to be a. writer I think writing is like the most.

beautiful thing in the world because I. used to read like Steinbeck books and. stuff when I was a kid and uh I just. thought it was so crazy that someone. could take words and put them on a page. and it would make you feel something not. to be deep either I mean that like you. can be reading a book and feel something. like visceral and real from a page on a. book it's just ink and you're looking at. it and I was like that's crazy so I. started writing poems and stuff when I. was a kid and um those turned into songs. cu writing poems is lame right not.

really now that I'm 27 I know that it's. not but when I was a kid I thought that. I was like what way can you write poems. and it's not weird that's why I started. playing guitar yeah poems are one of. those ones people are embarrassed to say. they exactly yeah and I never I don't. get that nowadays but I do if you're 17. why because the people that aren't. embarrassed when they talk about poetry. are annoying yeah they are they're. annoying oh man you that's the problem. people talking to me about writing I'm. like man you suck dud please please. don't I don't to read I don't want to. hear it I don't want to hear it man some.

people just want to unload on you just. CU it's almost it's almost embarrassing. to like write vulnerable stuff yeah but. it's not at all at the same time it's. like you have one life you know well it. it connects with people so much the. vulnerable stuff like it connects with. people it resonates with people so much. and people act like you should be. ashamed of it well it's. just people are ashamed of emotions for. some strange reason it's strange it's. really weird to talk to people about it. because very stupid. it's very stupid at the same time so.

many people are drawn to them like I. have so many happy songs and people. always love my like darker ones and I'm. like this isn't my fault you guys all. lean towards this it's not I think what. it stems from is. people criticizing people who lose. control of their emotions like people. who are too emotional so like it could. be any little thing that goes wrong in. their life and they break down start. crying and think the world is out to get. them like that is that's annoying to. people I agree and in harder times. that is really looked down on cuz those.

are the people that don't carry their. own weight those are the people that get. in the way those are the people that. panic and battle those the people that. can't control their emotions so when we. think about someone who's exploring. their emotions or expressing their. emotions we like kind of automatically. think about the most annoying aspect of. expressing your emotions are the people. in your childhood who were just crying. all the time and yeah well people. there's some people that just like. anything that goes wrong in their life.

they think the universe is out to get. them like God damn it like have you ever. seen Africa you ever seen like people. that are living in third world countries. you ever think people that are walking. from Guatemala to try to get through to. Mexico to get to America wake up every. morning so happy to breathe here in. America man I wake up every morning I'm. like holy [ __ ] this could be so much. worse yeah that's like when this whole. border crisis thing is going on and I'm. like listen if I was living in Honduras. and I had no way of making out and I.

knew that I could walk all the way to. America my cousin was going to do it my. brother was going to do it it's going to. take us two weeks to walk to America. like let's [ __ ] go man otherwise. we're stuck and you have to think about. that being a story in itself like for. you is that that person who's like I'm. going to go make this trick and make. this journey in my life to make it. better that's like an odyssey right like. you're well people do what they have to. do in order to make their life better. and when there's nothing you have to do. cuz your life's pretty [ __ ] easy then.

people find all sorts of stupid [ __ ] to. compl cuz people there's like a level of. dissatisfaction that most people just. contain all day long and a lot of it is. like they have a lot of disa. dissatisfaction about their own self. yeah and they don't address that so. instead they find all this. dissatisfaction in the world but that. whatever that percentage is whether. their life is unbelievably brutal or. whether their life is really easy they. still want to spend you know 30 wet per. [ __ ] complaining about [ __ ] so they.

find dumb [ __ ] to complain about that. means nothing have you this is weird. you're bringing this up cuz I posted on. my in I hate to bring it up but I posted. on my Instagram last week this thing. called the catastrophe of success have. you ever read that no by Tennessee. Williams Oh there's this paragraph at. the end he talks about how success just. made him like you got to sorry I'm so. sorry no don't apologize okay no I you. got to read you got to read this yeah. yeah okay you know then that public. somebody you are when you have a yeah. you can read it but okay you know then.

that the public somebody you are when. you have a name is a fiction created. with mirrors and that only somebody. worth being is the solitary and unseen. you that existed from your first breath. and which is the sum of your actions and. so is constantly in a state of becoming. under your own violation and knowing. these things you can even survive the. catastrophe of WR paragraph I had one. job it's the one above it but it talks. about what you were just saying that. people get so content in their lives. that they make like the only Thing Worth.

The Only Thing Worth it in this life is. conflict you have to have that conflict. and those stories and those things that. make you suffer yeah to be happy and. content which is just crazy to think. about yeah it says this is an. oversimplification one does not Escape. that easily from the seduction of an F. fet way of life is that how to say that. I don't know aat how do you say that. Jeremy you got it aat killed it one of. them I got it with one of them the first. one that's one of those things I've only. read I've never like said out loud I've. never seen that word till I saw this I. was like no way man you cannot. arbitrarily say to yourself I will not.

continue my life as it was before this. thing success happened to me but once. you fully apprehend the vacuity of a. life without struggle you are equipped. with the basic means of Salvation once. you know this is true that the heart of. man his body and brain are forged in a. white hot furnace for the purpose of. conflict the struggle of creation and. that with the conflict removed the man. is a sword cutting daisies sick that. that's amazing that not privation but.

luxury is the wolf at the door and that. the fangs of this wolf are all the. little vanities and conceits and. laxities that success is air to why then. with this knowledge you are at least in. a position of knowing where danger lies. and people people who are content that's. what it means you won't be happy without. the conflict of you need struggle and. that's very unfortunate that's what I've. dealt with a lot lately in my life and. like the touring life and things like.

that and being successful in anything. it's just hard I think which that's so. I'm not try no it is but I'm not trying. to [ __ ] anyone yeah of course it's. not like your coal miner exactly I'm not. being like in the 1800s and you're 12. it's [ __ ] complicated complicated is. better to say than hard it's also super. bizarre because there's not a lot of. people you could talk to about it of. course yeah there's no one who relates. it's hard I tried to talk to a bunch of. different people about it like early on. and everybody has a different take on it. some it's interesting to see like some.

people as time has gone on they've dealt. with it less and less well which is. crazy to think about you would think as. you win along the Route you you get. better at it yeah yeah a lot of things. not it's just been it's been insane and. that really every time I feel however. I'm like stressed out I'll just read. that I'm like cool everything will be. all right for me um that's why exercise. is like a key component of my mental. health. regimen more mental health than anything. personally cuz was in the Navy I was. running.

like I was running marathons like on the. weekends cuz I loved it so much running. I've always ran like a lot and um I've. lost that along the way of being a. musician and I've noticed a decline in. like how I feel like uh energy wise yes. you know what I mean and it's freaked me. out so every morning when I wake up to. play a show I always go on a run now and. I I always try to tell other Comics that. like because a lot of comics do not like. to take care of themselves it's like. part of the fun of being a comedian. you're just lazy and crazy and you're. doing doing drugs SLE yeah it's a part.

of the thing but I always tell them your. body is literally the race car that. you're maneuvering around life in and if. you can give that race car more. horsepower if you make it more robust it. works better it works better with. everything it thinks better it handles. emotions better it it it sleeps better. it eats better you you'll be smarter and. people don't want to believe that cuz. it's easier to not but it's also more. fun [ __ ] lazy it's also fun though to.

to not care you but then you realize it. makes it so much worse that's what. happened to me last year cuz I mean I. wasn't like being crazy I wasn't like. shooting up or anything but we were just. we were just drinking so much and we. weren't like working out and like right. it was just like I and I woke up one. morning I was like in New York City and. I'm like man I feel just bad I shouldn't. feel like this at 800 in the morning I. haven't done anything that's when I. started like addressing I called my dad. I'm like man I got to do something. that's the real problem with booze. that's the real problem with booze booze.

is so much worse for you than weed or. mushrooms or anything else booze is the. worst cuz it's it removes all of your uh. it might be in an [ __ ] filter so. you're. [ __ ] so people get loud and confident. and and uninhibited and then you feel. terrible the next day exactly it's the. worst drug but it's also really fun it's. more it's the most fun thing you can do. it's it's pretty fun people give me [ __ ]. all the time cuz my sister my sister. soed up a long long time ago and um we.

always talk about it with each other in. a way of like balancing our lives and. things like that and drinking and all. that and. uh every time I talk to her she's like. why don't you just quit drinking if you. feel bad all the time and I'm. like a musician it's a great time to be. at like that night at the mothership and. stuff like you go down and you start. drinking with your friends and things. it's when it gets out of hand that it's. not okay yeah it's a balance an act for. sure did you see huberman's podcast on. alcohol alcohol no didn't sure terrible.

I watched yeah I know I watched I. watched that man I was like never put. get away yeah it's scary he was talking. about it and I was like I probably was. drinking a beer cuz it was like 8:00. p.m. and I'm like oh [ __ ] he was like no. this is he did not don't quote me on. this he was like this is it kills you. every time every time you drink and I. was like man I got poison cuz I'd. stopped drinking I thought man I thought. I was being smart and like last year we. were drinking a lot of whiskey and I was. like I I'm going to stop drinking. whiskey I'll stick with the beers and. the just the beer I started drinking.

beer and I felt worse and I was like sh. well you're getting a lot of. carbohydrates exactly and I didn't. realize that I woke up every morning. like full and I'm like why I I I just. can't eat breakfast and it was just. crazy calories beer is a lot if you're. drinking 12 Beers [ __ ] that's a shitload. of calories and I mean our our days are. so long like being a musician people. don't realize how much [ __ ] time. you're just waiting around cuz you get. to the venue early and then you wait. around all day to play and then you play. and then afterwards everyone wants to. talk so you're like up for like 18 hours.

and there's beer involved in everything. and you don't even mean it to do it but. you're like man at the end of the night. you're like I got to eat something man. it's crazy there's stages of guys. drinking less and one of them is they go. to the tequila stage like tequila. doesn't give you hangovers man Tequila's. right don't they do that that's like one. of the stages you even saying tequila. makes me want to just gag man I can't do. it even the smell of it freaks me out. that's probably my favorite drink. interesting yeah wow now I it doesn't. [ __ ] me up as much as other ones I like. when when I am purposely trying to get. [ __ ] up it's whiskey of course yeah me.

too so I had to stop drinking it but the. older I get them more I realize like. dude you're not Invincible you can't do. this that's what man it's crazy your. body starts declining and you're like I. got to do you ever do uh IV vitamin. drips after you drink I tried him once. and it made me feel worse so now I'm. like scared of him yeah I did it at a. festival one time cuz I was just I did. ACL and I'm not acl's amazing and. everything it's awesome but uh man I. woke up the next morning and I I was. like I can't there's no way it was like. 5:30 I had like the 5:30 slot and we had.

been driving all night I was like man I. can't do this and Danny's like here do. this IV it'll make you feel better and I. did it and I went on stage I was like oh. this is terrible really I had a great. time and the show was fine but uh it was. you felt worse I did feel worse I it. gave me a headache for some reason I. don't know that's interesting. what I don't want to throw any companies. under the bus but I wonder like what. they put in it cuz always those I. companies at like the festivals and. things yeah which you want to get in is. glutathione that's a big one and it's it.

actually helps your liver um process. alcohol a lot of people take uh. glutathione why they drink to actually. help I was about to ask can you do it. simultaneously be needled up and drink. at the same time could you could I think. that would be cumbersome but uh a lot of. people take liposomal GL glutathione. it's a way it gets in your bloodstream. better you like squirt it under your. tongue I've tried that before um but. generally you're rehydrating and you're. getting like a full panel of vitamins. you're getting zinc you're getting.

vitamin D and B and lot of high do. vitamin C it's good for your body for. sure of course and when you're. recovering from a night of drinking it's. good to like give your body the the you. know the building blocks to try to get. it get your [ __ ] together wow to speak. about it. technically my body like hit a wall CU I. was so I was so like in the Navy and it. was so physical like it was so physical. and like you had to be in such great. physical shape and then like all of a. sudden it was like out right do whatever.

you want yeah and now it's like you're. free and I was like okay let's go it was. crazy it was crazy I waited like eight. months to it was just such a crazy story. and then when I when I finally had. freedom I kind of overdid it do you ever. think about taking like a trainer with. you on the road I think we're doing it. next year that's a good move but I I. hate there's something in me not my it. might be my ego or whatever but there's. something in me it's like no you can do. it yourself well you can but will you. exactly that's what hard if you haven't. so far it's so unexpected well I mean I. mean I have but you know what you could. do you could make a like an agreement.

with the guys that you work with like. where everyone's going to do a specific. amount of working out every day like. you're going to do like x amount of days. a week and you have to do with each. workout 20 minutes of cardio 100. push-ups that's cool too build cader. we've been doing better this year on the. road but if you like have something like. that where everybody can complain about. it and talk [ __ ] about it and have fun. with it that's when people do their best. man when there's a market they got to. like. with it's cool it's also like a bonding.

experience and it's also it's you know. it's it's a shared experience it's like. you're having a fun time and you're. getting stuff done and it'll force you. to do it like you hold each other. accountable and just do it for a month. only thing I'm going to do for the next. month is play pool yeah yeah got to get. better Jo's get a pool man yeah I play a. lot though it's not fair I thought I'm. telling you when I say we did too yeah a. lot like too much people like refer to. it when they're talking to me that house.

pool so being out that's crazy well. there's pool that that you play in a bar. like on a bar table and then there's. tournament pool that you play on a tight. pocketed table that's when I showed up. and the guy started telling me the rules. I was like I'm sorry what that's for. nineball but we play eight ball it's the. best game in the world besides maybe. like poker I love it I love it more than. anything because you have to execute. it's one of the rare games where it's. not just knowing what to do and figuring. out little puzzles but you have to. execute like you have to control control. your body you just put words to how I.

feel about it too I've always thought. that like how is this game so damn fun I. think that's the same thing that people. get with golf you know because you have. to execute you have to make the shot. golf man do you play golf no I don't but. Jamie's an addict I can't do golf Jamie. just got back from a tournament I can't. do golf something about it I just can't. do you'll get there it's got to be the. shorts I'm just kidding I'm just kidding. I I a lot of my friends do play golf and. they always try to get me to play I'm. like it's a super addictive game that's. the only reason why I've never messed. with it really I just I don't want to. get addicted like Tony henchcliffe and.

him and Ron White and a lot of my good. friends are just full-on golf junkies. really they can't stop playing I've been. living in the Northeast and there's a. big it's like there's a lot of I feel. like in golf you have to go out and like. there's a lot of work involved in. getting into golf same with like sports. like lacrosse and stuff like that. there's just like a lot of [ __ ] you got. to have to play oh yeah golf you got to. have how many [ __ ] clubs do you have. you're supposed to have 14 or so in your. bag Plus shoes there's rules about what.

you got to wear out there shirt I. thought it was annoying carrying a pool. queue on the road like taking a pool CU. 60b bag I feel like a dork when I do. that if you walk into you're not a dork. if you do that cuz some of my friends do. it but you walk into a bar with a pull. stick it's like yeah I'm not and also. people are like they don't want to play. you at that point I don't at least if. I'm in a bar and a guy brings a pool. stick in and like a glove I'm like okay. but the thing like I never played pool. much in bars that's what you're saying. out there real pool halls yeah does that. make a difference you yeah way different.

yeah those maybe that's why I think I'm. so damn. good lemons yeah but a lot of pool. players that are really good go to bars. because people do think they're good at. pool and they'll go and talk [ __ ]. someone will try to gamble next thing. you know they're walking out of there. with 10 grand I I have a bunch of. friends that have done that we do the. dumbest [ __ ] at bars when it comes to. pool cuz we'll all like be drinking. beers all night it'll be like midnight. and someone's like I'll bet you on this. one and then like the whole bar will. like get around you know just watch us. play it's crazy yeah it's psychotic yeah.

gambling it's scary dude I was in Vegas. with Dana White Taylor Luen who who else. was gam Will Compton who else was. gambling was Will Will was gambling yeah. Shane and Shane Gillis was with us and. and Jamie and Dana White was gambling. and he was down. $600,000 playing Blackjack I was like no. don't do it Taylor was telling us so we.

were backstage with Shane Shane Gillis. was doing a show at the Mirage I came to. hang out we're all having a good time. and then he goes hey we're gonna go. gamble with Dana I'm like oh my god do. you know how hard he gambles you gonna. get he's like I'm up all this money. Taylor's like I'm fired up Dana shows me. how to bet we get there Taylor's down. $120,000 in the first five minutes but. can also go the other way yeah that's. why obvious so terrifi it did go the. other way he made his money back and he. won like 65 Grand I think and then he. backed out people just gamble on any.

which is cool I do this thing every year. where I go to the casino and I'll put x. amount of dollars on red every time no. matter what and I've never lost which. I'll probably lose now that I jinxed it. but like every year once a year I'll go. and put money on red just to say I G. like whatever I can't go to the casino. man it's scary man I was we were in um I. don't remember we were like in um it's. freaky like in uh Arkansas and Oklahoma. Missouri States like that if you go to. the casino I was at the hotel like even.

the hotels at casinos are scary you I'm. going to send you something J but just. stands on the couches man you're like. what's going on you go downstairs and. like your buddies are like smoking. cigarettes and like with those [ __ ]. sticks on the lottery machines or what. the slot Machin SL machines it's like a. it's like a dungeon and you're like oh. no offense to anyone who gambles but. scares the [ __ ] out of me I'm like bro. it it it it triggers some things in your. brain there's certain things this is. Dana he's on vacation in the Amalfi. Coast bro and this [ __ ] dude brings a.

a casino he had a casino come to him bro. who's that kid next to him man that's. crazy so he's look he's got stacks of. cash that's baller man him no it's not. that's a sickness who knows he brought a. goddamn casino to my thing is man if you. can do it you should do it if it makes. you happy wow look at you all openminded. no way I guess I guess the last year of. my life is made me like that well that's. a good way to be no one let no one lets.

you do what you want to do or me do what. I want to do like when it comes to like. socially like on the well what do you. want to. do I just think everything is so micro. analyzed by every you know what I'm. saying like everything so many it's. there's so many voices that's what it is. agre like we were talking about earlier. like if you go on social media and you. read comments about you you're reading. the opinions of literally millions of. people there is no way they're all going. to be positive it's like Gambling Man. it's either one way or the other it's. crazy the problem with social media. though is the negatives far outweigh the.

positives in terms of the way it makes. you feel like when you see someone get. ganged up on in the social media I've. seen it happen to people where they're. like they say something on a podcast. that people disagree with it's some. culture issue or medical issue and. people get really mad at them and then. you go to their timeline you see all. these people hating on them I just. imagine like what that does to your. psychology to your mind when you're. reading all like if you read things that. like Zach you're a great guy and then.

one guy you [ __ ] fraud you piece of. [ __ ] I know who you really are like well. being from my being from like. individually it freaks me out. individually like from the inside out. and also if you see someone get ganged. up [ __ ] socially ruined what freaks. me out is like what would have that. person done artistically if that. wouldn't have happened what would have. that person done for the great for the. good of people sometimes you know what I. mean they would either way on what it. was I mean either way it's like [ __ ].

scary there's a thing that people do. what what it is is they're terrified of. it happening to them so people know it's. a thing that people can gang up on. people and they're ter it's the same. reason why people jump people or like 10. guys will beat up one dude like you're. terrified of that ever happening to you. and when it's happening to someone else. you just jump in and gang up on people. so it doesn't happen to you it's like a. thing that people are doing or they're. so afraid of being ganged up on on. social media that they just gang up the. like the most neurotic people are also. like the oddly the most aggressive about.

attacking people it's weird I I saw on. here like two years ago sapiens that. book yes uh I read it because of this. podcast and in that book somewhere it. says that like people are only supposed. to be in groups of 150 people like. Villages you know and I had this rant in. Denver Colorado like two weeks ago we. played Red Rocks uh and um everyone. afterwards went out to the pool like. pool bar and we were all just hanging. out we were walking. home and I grabbed my phone because I. was [ __ ] I mean we drank too much.

obviously because we played uh Forest. Hills in New York and then we went to. Red Rocks and we just were celebrating. because it was a big the big deal to us. at least and I was walking home with. like eight other guys and I had my phone. and I was like man screw this and I just. threw it behind me cuz it's scary man. there's so many [ __ ] people right. right in the palm of your hands well you. know what that's from uh that's from how. we evolved yeah that's what they think. at least that's what some people think. it's done Bar's number dun Bar's number. it's it's more complicated than like 150.

people it's like there's tears of people. there's people like family and very. close friends and then there's like a. tier above that like people that's the. tiers so like there's five people that. you're like super close with and then. there's 15 people that you're slightly. less close to and then it goes all the. way out to, 1500 people and imagine the. vulnerability it takes to be you or me. and like in your life a lot of people. think they they know you at the 150. level but you know you don't know any me. personally I know I don't know 150. people off the top of my head what is.

this one Jamie I'm just trying to find. one that has the explanations of it on. the screen how many friends can a person. have I think about this more often than. I should when it comes to like looking. at my phone and like seeing how many. followers I have or the [ __ ] that. like comes with being socially active. you know it's crazy well it's something. to think about because what I think is. happening is human beings evolved in. these tribal groups and now we're. evolving a new Consciousness that is. actually Global because it went from.

being in small tribes to larger. communities agricultural communities. cities millions of people countries and. now the whole world and that's that's a. completely new way of interacting with. people that has never existed in the. it's so much heavier than people make it. out to be I feel like I feel like people. are like taking it lightly which. obviously a lot of people aren't but I. don't think they're aware of it I think. it's just something that you're kind of. dealing with because because it's just. there you know you're tweeting and. you're looking at the news and you know.

the news Cycles now the news cycle of. literally 8 billion people I haven't. talked to anyone like this in like four. years I'm so [ __ ] scared man not. scared of anything in particular I'm. just not scared of the world either but. you know what I mean I just like it. wasn't worth it to me right not in a. arrogant way just in a way where it was. like man why right I make enough I write. enough music like you know me from that. and right right why risk people getting. pissed off off at you yeah about. something silly yeah and I went back to.

Oklahoma recently I've been in the. Northeast for like two years 3 years and. I went back to Oklahoma man and I I had. some time off and I just sat in the. grass sat in a field like I used to when. I was a kid I was like man oh that. Dunkin trussle episode with you when. Duncan Trussell was like man there's. probably some Sad Sack sitting by a. waterfall with yeah he doesn't know. who's mad at him or who he should be. scared at you remember that crazy that. he said that I'm like he's right man. dun's a genius he is a gen and watch I. watch his episodes religiously on here. cuz he's just so beautifully like.

articulated that's how he is all the. time too it's so funny because like we. did two episodes kind of back toback we. did one where we dressed as doctors and. what was the other one before I remember. man the [ __ ] you guys had the B I. sound like a [ __ ] fany F right we. were FES yeah we couldn't we respect to. FES cuz like they're putting in work. they're putting in work those fairies I. know you guys are talking about I was. like holy [ __ ] I can't believe this. realm of people exists how crazy had a. good idea the other night they're like. you should make every guest dress up no.

matter how like how important they think. they are world leaders make them put on. clown costumes like you can do the show. but you have to put on a clown I could. barely put on a shirt this morning I was. like what do you wear what do you do. here man I never I never done this well. I saw this Johnny Cash shirt sitting in. my closet I was like this is perfect. this is perfect shirt for the show I. thought you were working out in it I was. like okay [ __ ] no should have did it no. I I uh shot bows this morning got a. little workout in came straight here. where do you shoot bow around here at. your place or yeah yeah I have a range.

no [ __ ] yeah I have a range in here I. can't imagine just waking up and me like. you know what I'm going to do I'm going. to head over and shoot some bows man. it's cool it's good for your mind man. has to anything you f anything you focus. on yeah I mean forget about bow hunting. but just archery just archery like. shooting at a Target is so good for your. mind that's why doing anything riding. for comedy probably writing music yeah. dude you're just focused right you're. locked in and I wish I could just be in. that state forever all the time but you. don't man you got to love it like you.

love sex you don't want to [ __ ] all day. every day you'd get bored true I'm there. I mean I'm not there now I love making. music and stuff but like even touring. like playing the same songs right I love. doing it cuz the people are so beautiful. and the people who come to the shows are. so like moved by it and I'm but like. people like look at me and they don't. realize that I've played the same show x. amount of times and I'm so blessed so. lucky but sometimes man I'm like halfway. through my set and I'm like give it all. you got man give it all you got no. matter no matter how many times you've.

sang it you know yeah you just got a. reset like those people are seeing you. in many you know what I call the Joe. demaggio principal is that Joe demaggio. was playing once and I think he was like. 40 years old and he slid in the third. base and the uh the third baseman said. why do you play so hard you're already. Joe dagio true and he goes because. somewhere out there in the audience is. someone who hasn't seen Joe dagio play. and I don't want to let him down my dad. says that to me every time I go on stage. and I think about it too I think what I.

do when I go on stage I look out at the. audience and I I pick out one like kid. whether whoever it is I pick out one kid. who's like in it I'm like man this one's. for you that's how I do it so. religiously cuz it's kind of a paradox. man cuz you write the music or you write. a skit and you care about it so much and. then every time you play it it feels. like you're almost giving a little bit. of it right to other people yeah and at. at one point you're singing the song and. you for it's so sad cuz you love the. song so much but you sang it so many. times so when I look at the kid or. whoever's out there I'm like that's it.

that's why I'm doing this man let's go. let's go cuz it means so much what does. it feel like when they sing along is. that wild When They Know lyrics this. year has been weird because like last. year was such a like crazy year for us. growth-wise. uh people used to love it now now I'm. like I'm getting no arrogance attached. I'm just getting big enough to. where people are like man I go to his. shows can't even [ __ ] hear him sing. cuz sing everyone's singing along and it. scares me a little bit cuz I fear that. like what if there's like some like.

50-year-old woman or 50-year-old man. who's like sitting in his house and he's. me I'd really like to go to a Zack Bryan. show to hear him sing these songs then. you go to one of the shows and it's all. these [ __ ] like Reckless kids just. doing it man shirtless and the. 50-year-old sitting back there like damn. it I just want to hear him sing it you. know but it's yeah but they that they. should be just taken in that experience. that's what it is you're not going to. change it you're not get stop singing. how you hey stop singing I'm trying to. listen to that that guy sucks man. whoever that guy is sucks ass man I hate.

that guy that guy stormed the capital. yeah of course man of course of course. and it's so sick man because we got we. had Charles Wesley Godwin on the on the. road with us like the the first year and. the second year and it's like such a it. felt like when I was watching him open. for us or whatever I'm not even trying. to plug him but when uh he would be. singing and like you'd be in like these. weird [ __ ] like 2,000 cap 3,000 cap. like roller ranks and all these American. venues like you ever been to the The. Majestic you know like Detroit Majestic. and uh the venue is like in San.

Francisco the uh The Warfield mhm you. look around and all this architecture so. beautiful and like you're hearing that. like your opener sing and you're like. this is a chapter and something right. this has got to be something this is. beautiful there's all these like 18 to. 25y old kids just like giving there. everything to like be there for you yeah. and you're like man this got to this is. crazy this is what you see like on on. what like you read this [ __ ] in books or. whatever when I was in Greece uh last. week I got to see Guns and Roses in.

Athens they're always playing not in. America bro my dad always is like I saw. them in Japan I'm like why I think they. played everywhere I think they play a. lot in America too but it just dumb luck. that we happened to be there and I ran. into Axel Rose at a restaurant and axel. invited me to the show I'm like oh [ __ ]. like this is wild and we went and. watched Guns and Roses these dudes are. 60 years old and just killing it. murdering it for 3 hours I don't get it.

for hours I love that man do go off I. mean do your thing but it was it was. intense and it was like 95 degrees out. we were talking about earlier how hard. the road is and stuff and I see these. older guys doing I'm like man what's. going on well Mick Jagger when the. Rolling Stones were here they played. Kota the circuits of the Americas and uh. my friend owns it and he was explaining. to me how they brought two trailers two. trailers that are just Mick Jagger's. workout equipment he yeah two trailers. as [ __ ] still moving man I mean every. day that guy works out every day has to.

he has to like we were saying it'll kill. you if you don't he's Biden's. age that's crazy bro that's insane he's. Biden's age I want to talk look at him. out. there and doing what I do at 27 I look. at this and I'm. like he looks great yeah and dude he's. moving around you know like he's not. stationary he's not like just standing. singing the songs he's dancing as young.

man look at him go as a young person. that's not easy no man these guys cuz. they're devoted man they're so into. they're and the show was epic right so. it's at this outdoor Racetrack and they. have these giant [ __ ] screens this. huge stage and you're seeing Keith. Richards and Mick Jagger right there. come on man right there dude I'm telling. you it was like being on drugs it was. like a psychedelic experience like I. couldn't believe they were really there. those guys are so iconic sometimes I. wonder if they ever think about it like.

do like do they ask themselves the same. questions that I ask myself or uh not. that sounded shitty but like since I'm. smaller obviously like watching those. guys I wonder if they came up and. accidentally became Legends or like they. were so young when they hit the scene. you have to stop and think about the. 1960s was their dream to become massive. musicians no I don't think anybody could. have imagined they could have been the. RO there's no way anyone could imagine. being the. exactly you think Taylor Swift imagined. she' be Taylor Swift.

nobody maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe her. but for most bands the idea is just to. try to be successful there's so many. talented people too yeah that's what. freaks me out being me I know like three. chords on the guitar and I'm like oh. what's up and there's so many people. that like I get in these Circles of. these um astounding musicians who aren't. nearly as big and I I almost have like. that I have a real guilt of that you. know I'm like what the [ __ ] [ __ ] am I. doing right why the [ __ ] am I on stage. man you're incredible you're on stage.

for your songwriting and your voice and. your songs man and and your music too. but it's like the combination of the. things and it's um you know to toot your. horn man it's uniquely authentic it's. just very you very authentic music there. you can kind of tell when someone's. bullshitting for whatever reason it. feels like you could take like a certain. amount of it like there's a certain. amount of sugar that you can take in. food before it starts getting gross you. know you're like oh this is so sweet. that's why the writing is so important.

to me like it's man I can't do it I. writing is excellent I can't listen to. um corny writing personally I can't well. there's no and you got to like love it. to love it but yeah like people in the. car with me like what the [ __ ] are we. listening to and I'm like it was an. indie song I found and I'm like the. pretentious [ __ ] you know oh you're. that guy no I'm not no way like I. usually put on like the [ __ ] Barnyard. Shuffle 50 of the top hits people are. with me but when I'm alone you know what. I found man I don't know if you've ever.

heard this song but um my friend Brian. Simpson turned me onto this song and. this song should have been a [ __ ]. gigantic hit I hear those all the time. should have been a I mean I hear this. song I'm gonna sing it to I'm gonna I'm. gonna send it to you Jamie what's it. called um it's called I'm. Alive hold on a second let me find it. for. you by Johnny Thunder I'm a alive by. Johnny Thunder here I'll share it with. you Jamie man I always want to be the.

guy yeah I heard it you got it Jamie. listen to this man so this is a song. from 1969 I believe and it was. re-released sometimes in the 2000s they. probably thought the same thing as you. but this is listen to. [Music]. this oh. man I'm. alive I see. come. on how the [ __ ] did this guy make it.

when did you hear this my friend Brian. just sent it to me like you got to. listen to this dude you want to be on. the highway right now [ __ ] yeah I want. to be dancing 69 Camaro let's. [Music]. go oh [ __ ] how good is this that's crazy. so good you hear [ __ ] like this all the. time that's why I feel so bad on stage. man yeah this is a guy from. 1969 sick cover too man they had it. right they had all the art right yeah I.

mean that dud so good like in the ' 60s. and 70s everything you see is just right. but this one is like particularly good. big it's bigger it's so good and I'm. like a guy that can do this this is like. this is like a world famous gigantic. musical artist forever someone who could. do this this guy's a star well it only. takes once too if you put this on like. whatever people are using now baby baby. baby baby. I'm.

yo. A we got to go run around man this is on. our uh pre-show playlist at the. mothership I'm going to start walking. out to that that's when we're hanging. out in the green room we listen to that. well that's what's there's a huge. Resurgence in music right now because of. uh Tik Tok and [ __ ] like that because. people are like uh finding old stuff. finding old stuff which is a beautiful. thing also a scary thing but I don't. even know like I I know I don't know.

anything but um It's cool cuz if one. person that was big or whatever use that. it might be might have a brand new life. which kind of stinks for the Johnny. Thunder was his name I Johnny's dead. which is isn't that crazy like the van. go thing where like he knew he was going. to be a famous artist and he like I. don't know if this is Van go or I don't. know if it's another one but there was. an artist back in that era of like. people who my producer Eddie he used to. tell me this he said that uh one of. those guys painted his entire life he.

would paint in like coffee shops and. stuff and he would tell his buddies or. whoever he would say I know one day. these are going to be these are going to. be worth something and then he like. lived his life died and then 200 300. years later or 100 years later whatever. he he got famous for and it's like. that's like the whole plant a tree and. watch it like if you plant a tree you'll. never see grow plant a tree you never. see it big whatever that [ __ ] is I know. what you're saying you know what I'm. saying yeah yeah this Johnny Thunder.

somehow or another had slipped by how. how old was he when he died trying to. look stuff up about him right now his. real name was Gil Hamilton uh Tom Jones. covered it wow I found a Ghost Face. Killer song that sampled it oh nice um. but yeah I was trying I'm trying to what. year did this guy I think it said well. the cover was. 69 his version I'm alive Thunder 68 so. Johnny Thunder's version was first right. and then the 69 version I've also heard.

Tommy James and it's not as good he had. to have wrote it right obviously I don't. think I think Tommy James and the Sha. Dells wrote it there's a don Fone Fen. but if he wouldn't have sang it like. that man oh he sang it so yeah exactly. that's a big that's a weird conflict in. my head too right that's a thing right. the covering thing is weird I I don't. cover on stage cuz I I'm I'm young I. don't know I don't act like I'm better. than a cover I just I don't know like if. it's what I stand by. well it's like do whatever you want to. do man whatever resonates with you but.

sometimes people just have a feel for a. song and they want to redo it when I. knew everything when I when I knew. everything at like 20 or whatever uh I. used to hear covers and be like wait man. you're ruining the feeling of the song. that writer wrote it and it means the. world don't mess it up some covers are. [ __ ] amazing St Von's cover of Voodoo. Child come on some of the best songs of. like ever were were covers yeah there's. some amazing oh my goodness all right. that's HRI right he covered Dylan and.

then yeah Matthew Matthew you seen the. live one where they're all on stage and. just W it's nuts and something recently. in my life I've like started delving. into this is crazy to me that people. don't even and this is an issue I have. no problem with this but people don't. even give a [ __ ] about who wrote. Whatever if it sounds great which is. cool in a sense but in my life even as. like a writer or whatever I just now. started going to the song credits like. looking and it surprises me every single.

time cuz there's people who you don't. think would write something that did. write it or someone who yeah sounded so. great covering a song that you think. they wrote it and then you go to it and. there's like eight people writing it and. you're like what this is crazy you know. I just found out that may West was a. writer and may West got arrested for. writing I think it was a. play spent eight days in jail let's see. May West yeah it was about sex there was. something about sex that she got. arrested for yeah maybe I spent eight.

days in jail she looks like a she looks. like a badass oh she was a badass what. did she do we actually have her. couch yeah so the uh yeah mity owned her. couch and mit's Son um gave it to me and. so that's in our Green Room at the uh. the Mother Ship we have may West couch I. was trying to get re upolstered it. that's [ __ ] crazy where was it at was. it like in New yor MIT at mit's place. where where's MIT who's oh I'm sorry. Mitsy Shore was the that's that lady she. was the owner of The Comedy Store oh wow.

okay uh members of the cast of sex were. hold so the the show was called. sex she was such a ho who thought man. what a powerful lady February 9 1927 May. West the original cardi B went backstage. of a performance of her play sex and. found herself surrounded by a officers. from the New York City Police. Department's municial vice squad. Municipal vice squad which rounded up. the cast and put them into black police. vans Wes was a smartt talking wise.

cracking blonde bombshell of the 1930. Cinema famous for some of the sharpest. and most suggestive onliners in the. history of the movies as both a. playwright and a screenwriter she wrote. many of those lines herself she was like. one of them original boss [ __ ] that's. insane all these like boss ladies now. like cardi B's A big one like who else. it's a lot of like I guess you could say. lizo is like a boss lady like who's a. boss lady Beyonce Beyonce's a boss.

lady's a boss lady there's a lot of Boss. ladies now it's crazy to think about. they say whatever the [ __ ] they want but. back then like when when in May West. time like someone who wasad lady it was. unique and they didn't care who wrote a. play called sex yeah like in the 20s. that's nuts I'm surprised she didn't get. arrested for that I think she did I mean. I think that's why she spent eight days. in jail oh my good that was that was. what they arrested her for yeah was the. what was the official charge the charge. was kind of. interesting so much time hasn't passed.

since this shit's happened like my. grandpa was born in like the listen. listen to what the the the charge was. giving a performance not tending to. advance the morals of the. spectators Whoa man that's why wow. that's wild I wonder she got arrested. for giving a performance not tending to. advance the morals of the spectators. that's amazing cuz it was all backed by. like back in the day it was all everyone. just was so everyone really religious. man morally it was also you could starve.

to death super easy back then wait why'd. you say that obviously yep wait in the. 20s yeah dude that was the Great. Depression like I'm a dumb ass to come. out of the depression people 1927 was a. great I thought what year was the Great. Depression 1919 or something start. depends on the year yeah right around. there so people are still recovering. from the depression my grandmother kind. of never recovered from it my. grandmother used to when when she died. when they were cleaning out her house. they found coffee cans filled with money.

that was stuffed away in the. walls that's what yeah they were always. worried that. 1929 The Roaring 20s and stuff from the. 20s exactly which is so this is exactly. that time period that she made that that. um that that play which is wild right. she think people would want to go watch. it get their mind off being so depressed. man I don't think they had any money I. and also I think like it was like a. hopeless helpless kind of depression. where everything crashed all at once. like the banks collapsed well everyone.

was like you know what what caused the. Great Depression it was a stock market. crash right these [ __ ] been. monkeying around with numbers that's for. a hundred years I know right they've. been [ __ ] everything up for that long. making insane amounts of money for that. long man insane amounts of money like. that game that Financial Banker game. like w those guys being from Oklahoma. you hear a lot about like the Dust Bowl. and [ __ ] too when the Great Depression. came by and I'm like how much [ __ ] did. people have to go through man right. because it was like I I don't know like. I'm not a historian I'm sorry but not I.

know uh you you hear [ __ ] about like the. Great Depression and the dust ball all. hitting Oklahoma at once and I'm like. bro imagine complaining about how your. coffee tastes you know like in the. morning for us it's like these people. would wake up and like have to [ __ ]. be be just in the Great Depression and. like lift their plate up and yeah it's. just nuts to think about bro I mean. there's a great um do uh book rather a. biography of this guy um I think his. name was Danny.

mcgury I think it's called mcgury life. of a pool Hustler and this guy was a. pool hustler in during the Depression. and he talks about being like so hungry. just knocking on people's doors and. begging for food just noit going from. town to town being broke and trying to. hustle people out of money he wrote a. book he obviously succeeded at one point. right no they wrote a biography of him I. think a guy named Robert burn wrote the. book book you find it I have it at home. I was telling you but it's like you're.

just you're absorbing like the the the. the that those times were so desperate. Hess Hess and desperate which is a scary. place to be man it's surprising the more. people this is really dark to say but. it's surprising that more people just. didn't go off the deep end and like just. cared you know that's I have this I. think I talked to you about it last time. I'm [ __ ] annoying man I tell my. friends about this all the time like on. the. bus uh I I lived in New York for a. little bit and I lived like by the. Empire State Building just cuz I wanted.

I thought I was some [ __ ] I don't. know I just wanted to get out of. Oklahoma for a little bit and go. somewhere that I'd never been before so. I moved to New York City and I live by. the Empire State Building and every. morning I would look up and see the. Empire State Building and one time my. dad came and visited me and we went up. and I was like I'm a dork when it comes. to like touristy stuff I love it we had. our I love New York shirts on or hats. and you're up they have you ever been in. the Empire State Building yes they have. that simulation where it's like like you. go in that floor and you see all these. like hardened men like building and.

riveting the [ __ ] be and man people. were coming from uh like Iowa and Cal. like wherever the hell look at this guy. adjusting that bolt dude it's probably. making a dollar a day people don't have. this anymore I don't think they don't. have the thing where you're like you're. like struggling away and your family is. whatever the kind of person that could. do that this is like an athlete like you. have to be we we talked about there was. a guy recently we talked about on the. podcast that to this day fixes [ __ ] like. that I don't know what country he was in.

I don't know if it was America or. somewhere else but this dude was. climbing these [ __ ] beams these metal. beams like an athlete I was watching him. do it I'm like I can't do that so not. only is he skilled but he's carrying. tools and he can physically do things. that I can't do I'm watching him clim. watch this guy this is a different guy. but okay well there's another guy that's. doing the same kind of thing look at. he's got a harness on the other guy. didn't have a harness there's no way. like regulations would let someone do in. America is probably somewhere else that. that that is [ __ ] wild you ever you.

ever seen like linemen oh now he doesn't. have a helmet [ __ ] people who work on. lines and stuff like the power lines and. stuff my uncles did that growing up they. have to go all the way up there that's. why I wear dog Martins cuz my. grandfather wore him and he would put. his spikes on oh and my cousins and [ __ ]. just climb poles like in in 20 seconds. they go up there and they're just like. touching [ __ ] that can kill them all day. and you're like oh my God it's crazy and. they do that man it's nuts you ever I. was watching in this um I don't know it. was a balloon or something that flew.

into these power lines and holy [ __ ]. what it explode or something they. exploded just as gig I think it was myar. balloons or something like that they. flew into these power line is that what. it. is this is not as these are other. balloons that are CAU so this guy has to. imagine just thinking you have to touch. that thing even knowing that it's not. going to get you understanding how. electricity works just imagine wanting. to be in contact with that amount of. Life dude you ever seen that guy who. does it like in uh like Montana I don't.

know where it was but he like flies. around on a helicopter and he like gets. in a basket and has his stick and he. like puts it out there for lightning. yeah oh no not for lightning but he's. like fixing the people don't think about. where the power com like all the power. and these this dude's just does it out. of a helicopter yeah he's like hanging. off a helicopter just like messing with. wires God this the exact thing man I. look this [ __ ] up cuz my uncles do it. and I'm like no [ __ ] way man God so. what is he doing well someone's got to. fix them when they go down and stuff. like that when this is so wild dude it's.

crazy so this guy has to climb on these. things and yeah it's a big economic. thing in Oklahoma like what is he doing. he's going to climb in that yeah what. the [ __ ] bro and that thing would just. kill you man dude this is freaking well. he has you know those Kevlar I don't. know if this is right man I'm not a. lineman but look at that guy's going the. other direction you those Kevlar suits. that like shark people wear they wear. the same thing the metal thing I think I. don't know if it's the same [ __ ] but. you get is that really going to stop you. from getting shocked well it just. prevents it conducts a lot so it goes.

around your body opposed to in it that's. what that thing's doing that thin little. cloth that you have yeah crazy man. people do [ __ ] like that that's why. those Empire State Building guys are so. crazy one of those guys just died some. guy who's one of those uh climbing. skyscraper Daredevils in that photo. where they're eating lunch no it was I. don't know someone Kelly Slater just. sent it to me want me to send it to you. I can find it I found it that's why I. don't get I respect it a lot 30 years. old he fell off a building oh that's so. sad he plunged 68 floors he was last.

seen knocking on window. outside I wonder why he was knocking cuz. he wanted to get in he couldn't figure. out how to get in he [ __ ] up somebody. closed the window he climbed out. somebody closed the [ __ ] window oh. man I I wouldn't being disrespectful I. was wondering why he didn't just like I. think I'm just guessing if he climbs up. did he I don't want to. be I don't know what happened I don't. know if he just climbed out on the ledge. that's my fear bro you ever been on the. bro my hands are so sweaty right now. just looking at the Golden Gate don't do.

this to me J I do don't do this to me. I'm not I'm not a Hy guy either not now. not after that guy just fell have some. respect that's him that's what it say. don't show me this dude don't show me. this don't show me this that's crazy I. don't get rock climbers at all bro I've. had Alex honold in a couple of times. he's a fascinating guy I respect him I. I've watched all of his stuff and that. Jimmy you uh Jimmy chin I follow on. Instagram he's like always not to away. from Alex Honnold but dude Jimmy Chan I. like followed him on Instagram and all I. see on his Instagram page is him just.

like getting into Antarctica water and. [ __ ] skiing down mountains I'm like. bro what is here how are you you just do. this man it's crazy he just doing. nothing but wild [ __ ] nothing but wild. [ __ ] and I think that's beautiful and he. has he has such amazing footage and it's. so cool to me that people can just. devote their lives to showing that kind. of thing did you ever see the alpinist. yeah yeah sad sad but also I mean. wild it's sad that his but it blew my.

mind just the The Experience he had in. the small amount of time that he was. alive were so over the top to a normal. person's how how old is uh. Alex Alex hanold if I had to guess what. would you say Jamie. 32 37 and he was like the alpinist I'm. not comparing the two at all but how old. was the wasn't the what you like K was. pretty young he was like 18 or something. crazy was getting so bored with free. solo climbing that he was ice pick.

climbing on glaciers so there was. overhangs like these massive IC the vide. you see him where he was just and he's. climbing up these [ __ ] things you. you're either dude dude that is the. craziest way to clim that's so insane. imagine look what he was doing he was. doing this. [ __ ] wait is this the alpinist. commercial yeah this is the the I mean. he was climbing things that nobody was. climbing and what stinks the most is. yeah look at and he had like that the.

girlfriend who like loved him so much. and she was so sweet about it she was. like it's what he's it's what his. passion is dude there's certain people. that are just wired way different he did. all that crazy [ __ ] and he did such an. amazing climb and things and he was just. with his buddy in Alaska doing a I I. don't know if this is true but like a. simpler climb and that's when he passed. away and I'm like man that's got to be I. don't know if it was simpler cuz they. they died in like an avalanche that's oh. that's heartbreak I think I think he was. climbing some insane Peak when he died I.

want to say it was in Argentina where. where was it when he. died I forget where it was but it was. crazy like they couldn't retrieve his. body I remember watching the alpinist. and watching the whole film and like at. the end it was like it just hit you with. it yeah and at the end you're like what. wait what what yeah wait what happened. what are you doing it was crazy oh this. is sad it was Alaska okay so after. summoning a new route in Alaska's menden. Hall hours with partner Ryan Johnson the. pair sent messages to friends and family. from the summit but disappeared while.

descending after being hit by a storm. search and rescue teams discovered the. ropes several days later in a Kass how. do you say that Kass near the base of. the route leading to speculation that. the duo was struck by a Falling. Rock a COR I don't know what a cornice. is or an avalanche while descending you. don't a cornes what is that I'm just. kidding I got no idea cores uh though. the bodies were never recovered so they. only found like ropes of where a corny.

that is sobre and they were trying to. call the family and friends massive. hardened snow at the edge of a mountain. precipice oh interesting imagine just. saying that in casual something every. day you know and people expecting people. to know what you mean like how. pretentious that guy's an [ __ ] man. that guy's an party that guy's talking. down to you man for sure the worst kind. of person. yeah a cornice oh yeah everybody knows. that bro hey man everybody knows what. that is this is what I this is what I. know yeah it's common snow terms for a.

thousand I I rock climbed like two times. in my life and I was like this to I. can't do this I can't you guys are crazy. are you scared of heights yes that's. interesting yes I'm fearful of dangerous. things Heights are dangerous the. photographer J crazy that's how you had. to take the picture oh my God sir like I. was saying man these guys look at that. camera that camera is like a typewriter. what the size of that goddamn thing bro. I fear that will never get. that slippery ass leather shoes who does.

[ __ ] like that anymore who's that. determined human beings are they built. the Empire State Building in two years. sorf interrupting sorf interrupting but. they really two years man dude that's. what I'm talking about about the Empire. State Building that was such a beautiful. [ __ ] dream and ethic and people from. like Iowa and [ __ ] were like going to. New York to build it because it was such. a Beacon of Hope Hard Times create Hard. Men Hard Men create easy times so easy. to think now being in my position or. whatever like oh man I wish I had a.

Empire State Building to build but. sometimes I got a song on the new album. called Tradesman sometimes I wish man. that I was like just doing something. that gave purpose you know and obviously. music does and it's amazing that I get. to do what I get to do but yeah one year. and 45 days less than two years bro one. year in a month when I saw that dude. insane bro and this is in the 30s man. imagine how determined men had to be bro. or Wom. like too but [ __ ] a well it was all. men doing that construction of course. with the people at home and things like.

that who were taking care of those guys. like yeah and obviously I say that with. say just the the human beings that were. involved in the actual maneuvering and. construction of that thing like those. are that's extraordinary human beings. hard hard men man who like wouldn't stop. for anything and they knew what they. were doing how many died how many people. died during the construction of the. Empire State Building they knew they. were doing was guess what do you think. how many. died there's 3,400 working on it it say.

okay fair enough sorry I thought you. were going to give me the answer no no. no i' give you something to build it off. of. 3,400 17 deaths 17 yeah I say. 17 84 whoa I want to say 84 okay J. that's pretty high five five five see. that's even more incredible workers died. in a slipping fall or struck by. accidents over the 13 months of. construction sliping in the 30s you. would think they all fell off of it so. in one year four Dudes fell from the sky.

and just splattered on the concrete bro. and I wonder I wonder and everybody else. has to go to work the next day and they. can't I feel like back in the day people. were like hey shut up don't talk about. it don't talk about it cuz if they. talked about it I bet I bet if they. talked about it like people would be too. scared to do it I think they just. accepted the inevitability they were. devoted is what I'm trying to like being. in the Navy and things like that man. like when you not to be that [ __ ] guy. but um. like you see you you have like kids. working for you 18 and 19 year old kids.

and you see like the. um just how people work nowadays is a. little bit different same same goes to. me I'm not any better I'm just saying. those people who are building the Empire. State Building were so devoted to the. one task at hand and they [ __ ] did it. in a year and 45 days those are. different humans they are truly one of. the first incidents occurred while the. building was still under construction a. worker who was fired from the job took. his own life by jumping down an open. Elevator Shaft oh god well when was it. built oh my God same same time period I. think oh my God oh my God as the great.

depr like 29 to it opened in 1931 so. they were yeah what a beacon man for. these [ __ ] for America cuz that was. the tallest building in New York I think. oh my God to build that and be like oh. yeah Americans did that we did that man. holy sh what someone jumped from the 86. floor and didn't die oh it says a strong. gust of wind blew her body back towards. the building and she only fell like one. floor yo I'm good man I'm not going. anymore I'm not going anymore man no.

that doesn't make any sense the sheer. amount the lucky one but the the the. gust of wind had to be coming up under. her that even possible I wonder what she. was like after it gets windy up high. I'll tell you that right right right but. does it is it possible that like a 100. plus pound person could be slowed down. by the wind to the point where they. don't die it doesn't sound right maybe. it seems a man you ever you ever done. it I have not who knows that's crazy.

crazier shit's happened people have. fallen out of planes and survived like. Sky jumper I mean. uh this might have been a big ledge and. she didn't you know she didn't jump out. fary said she landed on a three- foot. ledge about 20 feet below oh okay so she. fell 20 feet yeah but it says she was on. the 85th floor jumped from 86 and landed. on 85 all right no I'm not discrediting. lucky I mean that's what this says so. I'm trying to find the Year this oh so. she was found laying on the ledge see. 85th four ledge M that is the lucky one.

I bet she was fine good Lord one time I. fell 35 ft man that's far man I broke. both my both my wrists both my collar. bones it was crazy oh [ __ ] and my buddy. Graham my guitarist now I was like I was. like a 15 he had to carry me up a. mountain oh my God 35 not a mountain 35. ft ledge on a river it was nuts oh my. God it's crazy it was a rope swing you. ever do a rope swing yeah like into a. river mhm man I thought I was so tough. they were like we were young there was. there was girls there I'm like man I'm. GNA go to the tallest rung I'm gonna do.

this bunch of boys being boys and like I. climbed to the very top and tied it off. and I went off forgot to untie it yeah. and just immediately stopped and rolled. down like rocks and [ __ ] and I landed. man this is why this is crazy but this. is why one of the reasons why I like. believe in God because I went and rolled. and tumbled and my my head. landed exactly where we've been putting. our feet all day long so it was indented. so why I both like both my collar bones.

broke cuz I landed in that hole and it. hit like that and it was crazy and I got. up and I didn't even feel it I was in so. much shock and I went to climb up and my. wrist popped out it was it was nuts man. I never forget it but so you both both. arm my sophomore you're in high school. man I had like two cast I was in a. wheelchair yeah it was crazy wow how. long did you have to keep them on for uh. one of my arms was in a cast for like 3. months and the other one was like I. think probably like two two weeks three. weeks holy [ __ ] I'll never forget it man.

it was crazy [ __ ]. yeah isn't it wild how when you get. injured you so appreciate not being. injured you don't realize like when. you're running a when I'm running a lot. sometimes I get this weird [ __ ]. feeling of like oh man you got legs. right this is cool this is cool and I'm. not I obviously obviously I mean that. with sensitivity to anyone who can't run. or anything but sometimes I'm running. I'm like wow this is so beautiful that. we can use our [ __ ] legs and things. like that to move and yeah if you're a. able-bodied person you're super lucky.

you're so you're like super 00 five% of. whatever well people realize it once. they get injured once they get injured. that's when they start going oh my God. I'm vulnerable like I could be in pain. all the time from this thing now that's. how yeah like any anytime I've ever been. sick I felt like that too I'm. like man I can't believe we're just in a. constant state of. like I guess at a younger age being okay. and what we were talking about ear they. like working out as much as you can cuz. old age is scary and I'm 27 but when I.

think about being older and I think. about like arthritis and like all the. [ __ ] that happens like your parent like. our parents when they get sick and stuff. it's like our grandparents man you got. to take advantage of it now yeah there's. no matter who you are when you're 98. you're [ __ ] yeah doesn't that scare. you like what's the most fit 98y old. person I saw find the most fit 98y old. person I saw this video the other day of. a like 102-year-old climbing yosee and. he climbed it with his granddaughter and. I was like whoa that's crazy I used.

think I was going to be a goner by like. 40 not in a dark way but maybe they just. want if they want to die why not die. doing something they love I agree it's. how a lot of people feel about a lot of. stuff and I don't know how I don't know. did you ever see the documentary dirt. bag it's about this famous climber who. was uh kind just like this legendary. climber I forget his name but he. basically just like slept in sleeping. bags and slept on people's couches like.

didn't give a [ __ ] about anything but. climbing and mapping out his climbing. routes and like had like these detailed. maps of the roots and it's a Fred Becky. and no one can say he was wrong which is. crazy play some of this cuz in the. beginning it's really interesting to. hear him talk in the beginning like hear. him talk in my head I thought he was. young that's crazy what's that Jamie I. got there's music and [ __ ] still going. on oh okay I can listen to that song. again man it was great live wanted to.

live yo so this dude was like old as. [ __ ] lifestyle he created his own. culture he became a culture of one it's. a grandfather sick. W his name is everywhere he was there. before the rest of us were that's sick. knows more about the mountains of North. America than anyone that's ever lived. this is one track mine most of the time. it wasn't on women it was on climbing.

friend was Lively and addictive there's. some sort of magnetism there right now I. don't know what I'm doing except. tomorrow I have no. idea as kids we were together all the. time our relationship deteriorated cuz. he continued to climb and I did not. climb. anymore Fred was only focused on. climbing and he never felt sorry for you. if you're climbing ended up in a divorce.

wa it's totally obsessive that's who. Fred is he just sleeping on the ground. absolute genius some people may think. it's an eventually going a cruise ship. to the Mediterranean to me it's no. Adventure at all let somebody bombs the. ship contemporaries they founded. companies they were like movie stars for. a while that was to me as imagine how. many people are like this why did the. best climber of all never go on to the. greatness that they all did he's a dirt. bag and because of that I don't think.

he'll get the recognition that he really. deserves it's a really good documentary. I can't recommend it enough it's FAS. when did it come when a few years ago I. saw it I don't know what year came out. it a while years ago six years ago it's. really good sleeps on the ground man. what's weird to think about is he just. never stopped wanting to do that one. thing and for some reason that like. haunts people is that a bad thing or a. good thing you think what here's what's. weird if you saw him sleeping on the.

ground like that and he was 20 years old. you go well you know he's a kid yeah. living his life why is it when you see. him when he's 70 years old like that is. it's so sad cuz we have a thing everyone. has to abide by in our lives you know. right which I think is I don't know I. think it's good for us it's good to have. that thing yeah I think it's good to. like evolve past not if you're that guy. I guess that's what I was asking like. who knows what's right I think we have. to realize that everyone is not wired. the same no matter what we think and.

everyone thinks everyone should be yeah. everyone thinks that everyone should be. wired exactly the way they are and then. when they aren't they're they're pissed. yeah it's just not the case they want to. control yeah it doesn't work that way. want to control yeah that's how I feel. with. um everything sometimes that's why I get. so frustrated with people because. everything I do someone has an opinion. or whatever and I'm like this seems like. you just want me to be. who I'm not when it comes to these these. sorts of things that's just you're. probably if I had a guess you're.

probably taking in too many opinions of. course man you know you should probably. have as little opinions coming in as. possible I think you know what you're. doing deal deal ain't it crazy man it's. nuts just stay away from other people's. ideas but also like I feel like people. didn't grow up in this I feel like. people this is a whole new world now. yeah like when I was talking to uh when. I was talking to Travis I respect him. after talking to him and things like. that and we were talking and he was. telling me about all these things and I. was like I feel and indifferently I was.

like man I feel like we live in two. different Realms of music and things. like that cuz I feel like the world's so. different now from. when the whole Nashville Scene was back. then and it's just funny to get to talk. to other people and hear about their. experiences and how they I don't know. what's what's the big. difference um I feel like radio was a. huge thing it might still be but I feel. like radio was a really really big deal. back in the day and it's it's it's still.

a big deal but it's becoming smaller and. smaller and smaller yeah nobody really I. mean I'm sure some people do but the. amount of people that listen to radio. now has to be I've been surprised by it. lately CU I've been going to the lake. and stuff I've been going like birthday. parties and things and I've heard a lot. of radio and I'm like oh wait people I. guess people still listen to the radio. can you make radio sound good like it. was always like a lower quality signal. right Jamie they have what they call Ag. HD radio now but it's still using the. same technology you know still spreading. out radio waves but is it as good.

sounding as like like streaming XM. sounds better right sure yes and then. streaming's the best sound yeah it's all. compression it's going to be do people. really care though most don't a lot of. people don't even realize it they just. want to hear it loud turn it up um. that's crazy about like writing music. and stuff like that. because the first records and stuff they. were so bad we recorded on like one uh. at like this this kind of microphone and. we didn't know what we were doing so. everything just kind of sounded shitty. but it was like a like renewed my like.

faith in humanity cuz no one gave a [ __ ]. they were like no these are good songs. man we like them it's authentic yeah it. was cool there's something to be said. for things being not that professional. mhm you know it's like it shows you more. of who the person is I agree I agree as. long as it's. legit guess the worst thing is fake. authenticity you say you say that but. like there's like um all the ra oh man. can't. can't man I don't think people give a.

[ __ ] man that that much at least like. people like the songs on the radio and. things like that they're all well. there's two different things going on I. think there's people that are making. songs that they think are going to be. hits and then there's people that are. making songs because they want to create. something special I think there's two. different things that are happening and. some people are really good at that one. thing where they make hits and they make. make these kind of catchy songs and. maybe they don't resonate with you but. they resonate with enough people that. they become real successful but it's.

like and and you know it gets to all. kinds of different levels like it gets. to like the Millie Vanilli level right. where they created a fake band and they. had these guys go out and lipsync it. that's insane yeah I feel like that was. more acceptable back in the day I feel. like people are really like hitting on. the whole like realness thing nowadays. when back in the day I feel like there. were just Mega stars who just did. whatever like like all the lip sinking. and things like all the do people still. do that today some people do right I.

think I don't really know like I've seen. didn't cardi B throw a microphone she. got very angry she th two microphones. though I saw was the music still playing. yeah she was rapping if you will over. her track without the vocals taken out. which they do sometimes it's very yeah. it's very like it's very gray it's like. a gray area for me but I don't it. doesn't make sense to me cuz when I play. is is I'm sorry is that why the girl. threw the D no but they Al like getting. way too deep some contracts they might. not pay for you to do the Real.

Performance they might just pay for that. and you have a different fee for that. performance kind of thing because it's a. less risky less of a big thing for them. yeah less risky they're not it was like. day time in Vegas do people get mad when. you do that I in Vegas and the daytime. party why would you you're not you know. you're just happy that they're there do. you remember when there was a girl who. got caught doing that on Satur live. that's what I was talking about when I. brought it up the whole like. conspiracies behind lip syncing and. stuff but today production is so like. [ __ ] in everything that like people.

would just say they're like it's a. backtrack when in reality it's like a. lot of their performance and there's. like a word for it now so it's okay I. think man I I've never like like dove. into it or anything but it's kind of. sucks when I got my boys up there like. trying busting their ass [ __ ] trying. to hit every single note right right. which is's a lot of beautiful bands who. still do that to this day but you you. hear about like a lot of like click. tracks and [ __ ] like your in ears and. it's like oh man we we we rehearsed a. lot to make this sound almost as good as.

that you know it's it's a playback track. or whatever it's crazy yeah that's a. weird controversy I guess with people. right and I forget words all the time. which is crazy like I was at a festival. like two weeks ago and I was playing in. front of [ __ ] 25 30,000 people and I. was playing and I literally blanked on. it and I had no nothing I got nothing oh. my God and I'm like what' you do I just. said hey I forgot the I'm going to. restart it I forgot the words. and people are like yeah I mean it makes. sense to me but it's such [ __ ] it's like. it blows people's minds I'm like no I'm.

singing this stuff I got it's also cool. for the people too because they get to. see something that's rare you know it's. not just a regular performance which is. silly people are so inhuman to me when. it comes like watching people perform. I'm like how the [ __ ] how are they doing. it you know yeah because when I'm. performing I like I'm like going crazy. in my head I'm like don't forget it no. don't forget it you got it you got it. look at the kid have you ever taken. anything from memory like New Tropics or. anything like that you know what those. are Budweiser every time Budweiser will. do a different thing yeah yeah yeah I.

don't know if Budweiser is bad for your. memory but I don't think it's good can't. be like I said hberman said it kills you. yeah it's uh it's relaxing you yeah it's. crazy but um there's a bunch of. different things um um that are called. neut tropics and they're vitamins. nutrients that you could take that. actually help your memory they help. brain function my buddy Austin he takes. him all the time yeah he makes it a huge. deal when he does too he makes big deal. out of it. he he doesn't like he jokes about it man. he'll like take one and be like hey guys. I'm on on it right now I can do anything.

you want it's crazy man but I've never. felt like I needed to I feel like I've. done a pretty good job of like. remembering every word I've ever written. when it comes to being on stage but not. even just for that it's like it it. increases whatever the [ __ ] is going on. in your head when you're conscious you. know like you know how you're you're. awake and you're alive and you know but. you vary day by day you vary in like how. well you can talk you vary in how well.

you think you vary and how much energy. you. have what neut Tropics do for me is they. can get you to a point where like. there's less of the negative and much. more of the. like communicating and being able to. think and being able to remember things. at the the peak of your abilities wow. but you want to be closest to that we. joked I've taken one before I came on. here did you yeah take more than one I. think I take like six I take six at a. time those Alpha brains cuz I like being.

I mean you like Everyone likes being. quick witted when it comes to just. speaking and communicating and things. like that I just like my brain working. better I guess like sometimes you feel. [ __ ] foggy that's what I mean when I. said I forgot the [ __ ] song that I've. sang a thousand times and you do it you. you like an idiot I'm sure and every. time I get off stage I'm like holy [ __ ]. but that's touring too right you're. getting worn out man yeah I think so too. yeah like how many months have you looks. like the longest run you've. done at the beginning of the year when. you saw us in Austin two step in started.

our like Europe run into the may run. which was like 60 days it. was sorry it was absolutely insane at. the end of it we we ended at railbird in. Kentucky and I just laid in the grass. and I was like thank God it's crazy man. but then you see [ __ ] MC Jagger and. stuff doing it and you're like man why. am I complaining shut up you know you're. like get on stage bro I don't think make. drinks anymore that checks i' I've been. there too well it's been a weird guess. it's been a weird conflict in my head.

because I don't like take anything I. don't like take pills or anything and. getting on stage is scared I mean like. normal pill like like beta blockers like. that they keep you from freaking out but. dude I have like have you ever taken. those uh no I've always wondered like. what I've taken I've I just lied to you. I've taken them one time and I took them. and I was like this feels weird man I'm. not like in it cuz I I get get really. bad stage fright like super bad stage. fright and I like but then as soon as. I'm on stage I'm like oh this is sick I.

don't know where it comes from so it's. right before every time just before and. I I just like my whole body locks up and. I'm like you can't do this you can't do. oh [ __ ] we're doing it oh okay cool and. then I'm doing it I'm like why why are. you freaking out I think it's just cuz. you love what you do and you want to do. it great yeah nervousness is a good. thing I think there's certain amount of. nervousness is is a good thing and I'm. I'm grateful for it yeah it puts you on. edge truly it's nice cuz your. performances like the when I saw you. live you're so hyped up man so it was. really exciting it was really fun and if.

if you have to be nervous before every. show to accomplish that exactly I just. want to be hungry man you know like I. miss I don't miss it cuz I still am but. I just always want to feel that I always. want to feel like I'm proven something. every single time you can keep that I. know I know and it's been beautiful to. see that over the last three years cuz I. thought at this point I'd be like oh. screw man it's beautiful it's cool I. think if you love what you do you can. keep it I think there's just as you're. going to get more and more successful. it's going to get more complicated your. life will get more complicated it gets. more intertwined and it gets more public.

and you're you know you're going to. experience a lot of success and when you. experience a lot of success then it. becomes weird and then you have to. readjust constantly new way of life. readjust this new you know new amount of. pressure that people have on you to. adapt to adapt it's crazy to think man I. I remember like when it all first. started I was like oh this is it I did. it yeah and it was like two months in I. had no I had no idea I got a I got a.

steak dinner bought for me by like a. label or something I was like man if all. I get from this is a steak dinner then I. did it and it's just it's been really. beautiful to like watch it unfold and. see how it all worked out that's awesome. it's crazy it's absolutely crazy yeah it. is a crazy story right it is yeah it and. being in the Navy for like nine years. beforehand is even CRA cuz no one ever. talks about that I'm likeo busted my ass. man I was I was like in Africa and. [ __ ] uh Bahrain and stuff and I was. like what' you do in Africa and Bahrain.

I was a this is a this is a crazy story. in itself. but I won't tell the whole thing um tell. the whole thing. [ __ ] okay so open a second Bud Light and. let's go yeah like I said about my dad. he was in the Navy for like 25 years so. I was uh hey man look at you hey man uh. dork. bro I've always loved dress blues though. that is sick you ever heard that song. dress blues by Isel no you got it's. beautiful it's beautiful but um my dad.

was in the Navy for like 25 years and my. mom was in the Navy like I said earlier. my grandpa was in the Navy and so. growing up when I was like 14 years old. I was like man I'm going to be in the. Navy that's all I want to do I want to. like die for this country man this best. country in the world I want to be in it. I want to experience that whole like. Empire State Building thing where you. like you're devoted to something yeah. and so I turned 17 and my dad was a. recruiter in Oklahoma and I was like. okay cool so he like helped me get. recruited and I was supposed to go in. the Navy as a.

diver but [ __ ] fell through my dad was. like it'll be fine you'll get to boot. camp and they'll ask you if you want to. be a diver and then you could just say. yes and it'll be fine so I like okay. sick so I get on a [ __ ] bus and I'm. like let's do this and I was nervous I. was scared man I was terrified cuz I was. like a kid you don't really know what to. expect in the. military and um I like end up at boot. camp which is crazy and I was terrified. and then I realized it was all just kind. of routine and stuff like that and I got.

out of boot camp actually no that's not. the whole story I was trying to be a. diver and and uh one day they were like. hey you're going to get to you're going. to get to reclass what you're. doing and they gave me like two. options and it was like be a Master at. Arms which is like a cop in the military. or be a Aviation men which is like the. dudes who like load the bombs and things. on planes and I was pissed at my dad I.

was like what the hell man I thought you. said I was going to get to be a diver I. called him I'm like dude you suck man. and so my buddies were all AOS which in. the Navy they're all [ __ ] made fun of. because they're all like big old dumb. idiots and then I became an AO and I. went to a school to be an AO and it was. amazing man I met some of those. beautiful people I've ever met I've. learned more than I've ever learned but. while I I got stationed in AB Nebraska. and and I hate I hate this I'm not going. to I'm not going to oversell this cuz I. don't want to sound tough but I train to.

be a seal for like two years with this. guy named Senior Chief lanquist out of. Omaha. Nebraska and uh I trained really really. hard I took a bunch of these psts and I. would call my mom like every day she. would ask me how far I ran how far I. swam how how many like how much I lifted. and. [ __ ] and then uh I don't take it lightly. either I never I'm not tough it never. happened but I wanted to go to buds. really bad cuz like I said I wanted to. do something that was greater than. myself and then the day the day my.

package came back for the seal the buds. thing my mama died and I was like well. [ __ ] man this sucks this is crazy and. all the while I was an AO and I hated I. hated it I was like oh [ __ ] now I got to. be an ordinance man and. um when she passed away I was like man I. don't want to do that I don't want to I. don't really want to pursue that so I. bitched out for sure and I wish I. wouldn't have sometimes but like life is. crazy and my chief my chief who was like. high ranking he looked at me and he was. like man you want to go out there and.

die or something why do you want to do. this so bad and I was like I guess. you're right and it's one of those. stories in my life where I kind of I. look back and I'm like man if things. would have been different what would. have happened but uh she passed away and. then I moved to Washington to be an. ordinance men then as soon as I [ __ ]. landed in Washington they sent me they. sent me to the desert this bini desert. to like learn how how to like build. missiles and load missiles it's crazy. and it was sick man it was beautiful so. I and I you had to build missiles as in.

like load them or as in like disassemble. and reassemble or and this is this is. different from EOD there's explosive. ordinance disposal and then there's AOS. which AOS are kind of just like the the. little tiny baby cousin of not even. they're not even connected EOD they're. some badass guys AOS are just the do to. build load arm and dearm the bombs that. are on the planes that are taken off. just just build bombs no big deal yeah. it's cool man it's neat and uh but. [ __ ] it's crazy so I was in the.

desert man I was [ __ ] like 19 years. old like oh [ __ ] okay I'm here and uh I. was like I was a sand sailor for sure I. never I never like uh was on a. ship and so that was my first deployment. and I fell in love with it I wanted to. do it like always I was like this is. amazing I had this really great Gunner. Gunner is like your your officer above. you and he just inspired me so much to. be the best that I could be every day so. i' go into work and be dude I was a. [ __ ] kiss ass like in the Navy. everyone hated me cuz I was like let's. do it let's go to war man let's go and.

we were just doing Simple [ __ ] like. eating dinner you know and uh but I I. fell in love with it and I wanted to do. it forever and. so we would like launch planes out and. like do the keys and [ __ ] to arm the. missiles that took off and things like. that and uh I forgot what your damn. question was I'm so sorry like at the. very beginning I don't remember what the. exact question was either oh yeah just. being in the Navy in general and um what. was what were we talking about we were. talking about something in specific you. had a specific story I exactly then I.

said I didn't want to tell the whole. story and then I [ __ ] God damn it oh I. was just saying that I was in for like. nine I was in for like nine years and no. one ever talks about that [ __ ] now and I. was like but and then I went to Djibouti. Africa which was crazy that's right I. asked you about Africa and I asked you. about Bahrain yeah that's that's what. started it yeah and then uh I was in. Africa for like dude I've been in Africa. for like a year of my life I was. deployed there twice and it's like I. loved every second of it cuz I'd wake up. at 5:00 a.m. 5:00 a.m. every morning and. like go eat breakfast go like load your.

plane go eat lunch [ __ ] how what part of. Africa were you in jib boti and where's. that the horn it's like right on the. edge either top or I'm going to sound. like an idiot was there a lot of. wildlife no we were stuck on the Bas oh. the whole time you can't even go off the. base it's crazy it's called Camp luminer. yeah and it's but it's cool though cuz. there's like eight gyms man food that's. all you do and you're as happy as you're. happy as [ __ ] cuz it's so simple that is. wild and you go to breakfast out go do.

your job work out that's what it looks. like there no way you were prob yeah a. little shittier where we were man it's. cool and so you're just on the base and. that's it yeah and then every every more. like whether there's like cluster bombs. or whatever you'd like go you'd go. assemble them or load them and [ __ ] and. it was it was really crazy wild yeah and. then like I said one day I just like. ended up like it was overnight one day I. just like went to [ __ ] Jacksonville. Florida and was playing my guitar on.

Twitter and it like blew up and then my. chief was like hey man this crazy you. got to. [ __ ] this is a this is a conflict of. interest man famous yeah I was. like I think they were scared that I. would show up to work and just be like. [ __ ] you guys man I don't need this you. know it never happened I would never do. that cuz I was so devoted to being in. the Navy but they thought you they were. losing all power over you exactly which. is crazy to think about man and I I had. this. [ __ ] my uh my Gunner one day comes up.

to me and he's like hey man this is. getting crazy you got to get out of the. Navy I'm like okay whatever uh do I have. to and he's like yeah and I was like I'd. rather not and he was like okay too bad. and then he was like okay you'll be out. of the Navy next week and I'm like. that's crazy all right been doing this. for eight years. now and then it took eight months to. process me out of the Navy and it was. crazy cuz every day I would go into work. and think like oh this my last day in.

the Navy cool for eight months this is. my last day you got to work as hard as. you possibly can man Make It Count Make. It Count make it count and every day I'd. go in and just bust my ass and then dude. F like six months in I'm like I'm in the. [ __ ] Navy forever man sounds good. Jesus Christ why is that is that just. standard for paperwork it's never. happened it's never like I think don't. quote me but like Elvis Presley was the. last guy who got like honorably. discharged out to make music and I'm not. I'm not like being arrogant in that.

either I think that's true and damn it. just never happens like that there's. been a lot of stuff with um like NFL. players who are like at the Academy the. Naval Academy who like are really good. at football and getting drafted to the. NFL they have to like get transferred. out and stuff like that but it's never. happened like some Joe [ __ ] the ragman. AO like me and that's when I knew it. that when dude when my Gunner called me. that day and he's like pack your bags I. was like holy oh this is that serious I. called my dad I thought he was going to. be disappointed because he was a Master.

Chief and stuff and I was supposed to be. Master Chief my dad had like a bottle of. whiskey when I was a kid that said. Master Chief bran on it for me when I. made Master Chief so I thought when I. called my dad he'd be disappointed but. he was like he might come home do it and. I thought it would flop I thought I. thought it'd be nothing in the year but. you were already successful online yeah. exactly exactly but I still I still I. never like played a show. or anything and then we went like I got. you remember your first one oh yeah what. was it it was uh the pageant in St Louis.

Missouri how many people it wasn't the. very first one this is unfair to say. like my best friends in Washington when. I was in the Navy I used to play at this. place called. uh I used to play like shitty acoustic. sets at this place called. um off the hook where like all the. sailors went like on the weekends and. [ __ ] they had like and my best friends. Austin and Kramer they used to come to. the bar and watch me these two [ __ ]. dudes just looking at me play and every. time I'd finish a song they'd clap for. me man cuz they're they're real friends.

you know and that was like the very. first show I ever played but the pageant. in St Louis I got out of the Navy and um. here's what's weird for me because. musicians have a I'm talking way too. much I apologize no you're not at all. musicians have usually a pipeline which. drives me crazy I don't know why but. they have a pipeline of like. oh man I played the small bars and then. I played the bigger small bars and then. I played the bigger bigger small bars.

then I went to medium venues and then I. went to bigger medium venue and they. have this like thing where they they're. proud of it of course uhhuh which I. would be too that's a journey but when I. got out of the Navy I was already like. there so I like hopped on a [ __ ] tour. bus like hey you're going to the pageant. in St Louis play WoW how many people is. that I think 2,200 wow which was crazy. for me cuz I never played a sh and. people blame me a lot for this like they. they get mad at me and I'm like bro I.

didn't [ __ ] do this I didn't mean for. this to happen and why are they mad at. you ex I I agree and it freaks me out. too and I just like I wish I could just. uh I wish I could just like talk to. people and be like hey man this is all. there's a a phrase that I've heard that. I've repeated way too much but I'm going. to say it one more time um this I forget. who who said this but we'll we'll look. it up all criticism is the tragic result. of unmet. needs so people who feel like they. should be you people feel like ARA [ __ ]. I was thinking about that before I got.

here yeah there's something to that. there's something to like what what you. do with your energy if you're a big old. hater uh Marshall Rosenberg father of. nonviolent communication said that every. criticism judgment diagnosis and. expression of anger is the tragic. expression of an unmet need peace. requires that we we develop the skills. to recognize the needs feelings and. values that influence our persp. perspective so that we can respond I. forget what it's not um know what the. rest of the article says that's just the. Highlight but whatever it is oh so we.

respond appropriately often we react to. situations and people that push our. buttons instead of recognizing that our. emotions are simply a guide to. uncovering the unmet needs inside. instead of looking outwards in blame and. judgment self-awareness helps us see our. role in each interaction that's insane. beautiful brilliant and I get that but. you're like empathetic to those people. you can't be empathetic to someone's mad. at you because you're successful I. learned I learned the hard like last we.

did a whole bunch of [ __ ] like with uh. ticketing and stuff like that we like. tried our best actually like as a as a. man I was like okay I'm going to fix. this problem man this is happening I. remember we have a conversation on the. phone about it yeah exactly I was like. man it's me I'll be the guy I'm going to. do this and then I did it and it was. just uh Theo was on the video and stuff. for it I I like put out the scalpers I. was like I'm going to make everyone. register we're going to show IDs at the. venue uh tickets going to be 150 bucks. no matter what no matter what I don't. care and.

um [ __ ] backfired on me because. people were just so angry at me about it. and I was just trying to do the right. thing and so it kind of were was. everybody angry at you or some of the. people happy with you. of hard to tell yeah that's the problem. exactly it's hard to tell that's the. problem and that's why in that dun Bar's. number those five close conf ons those. are the ones you need to be able to have. a conversation with about that kind of. [ __ ] and that's the thing about my life. which is sorry that's the thing about my.

life which is so crazy is cuz I have so. many people that are so close to me and. they know why I do what I do and the. feelings that I feel and why I'm why I. try so hard and why I do this why I do. that same with everyone's life but it's. hard I think to be a figure or a big. figure and say one thing to those people. and then the public gu see something. else right and it's like damnn tried. tried my hardest you know it was crazy. man it was nuts it was like psychotic. like we're saying though someone there's. always gonna be someone that's upset and.

if you have people upset at you even if. it's a small percentage of the people. that that feeling is magnified it feels. way worse but but their feelings are. valid though too like those that small. amount of people whose feelings are like. that that's I have that I have that. problem it depends on what we're talking. about it depends on what we're talking. about I mean sometimes it's valid but. sometimes it's just a pure expression of. that that parag that that guy wrote yeah. very very true it could be that because. there's a lot of people are upset. because they didn't figure it out and.

they didn't get the breaks they thought. they deserved and they didn't get. opportunities or they got a bad role the. dice in terms of like their life and. where they grew up. and and they get really angry when they. see someone who hits the lottery and. some people hit the lottery you know. they respect I think most people respect. a long grind to be like the Rolling. Stones like if you're the Rolling Stones. like how can you not respect that the. guy's 80 he's up there doing concerts.

and killing and probably when they were. a younger band they [ __ ] yeah grinded. and grinded and grinded in those like I. was saying earlier with those small. venues those medium venues and things. like that so nobody would hate on the. Rolling Stones no but someone would hate. on you because you're new so it's this. new thing where this guy like he didn't. even have to try that hard he didn't. even play the this [ __ ] was in. the Navy this is [ __ ] I've been on. the [ __ ] road since I was 12 and.

people forget man about the [ __ ] like. four or five hours of night I spent. after a shift in the Navy like doing the. [ __ ] writing songs getting good at. writing songs people forget that it. takes a lot to be a good writer you know. and I'm not I'm not talking on my ass. I'm saying that that's one thing in my. life this life that I know that I've. earned because I've written so many. things and I've had so many shitty songs. that I've like and I'm like come on do. you write pen to paper or do you write. with a laptop or a computer I have. [ __ ] 70 notebooks in my truck right.

now wow cuz I just and they're do you. store them do you like store them like. uh like images of them or anything no I. think it's kind of cool that is cool. cool it's not [ __ ] super valuable I. know last year I had a buddy we were at. the studio and a Time Square and he had. this backpack on my notebook four of my. notebooks were in it with like every. like. yeah I don't know if I should say this. but uh like every song I'd written in. the last like two years and it was dude. that's scary left.

it crazy man no crazy man oh my god did. you freak middle of New York City I was. terrified but that's why I don't know if. I should say it someone's gonna [ __ ]. go on a scavenger hunt and look for it. find your [ __ ] songs and try to sell. them back to you it's crazy maybe you. can get like a reward put out a reward. maybe some kid how long ago was this uh. November last year oh homeless people. wiped their ass with those songs exactly. man think about that bro yeah I wonder.

if it I'm imagine if there was like a. [ __ ] super hit song I think about it. all the time like something in the. orange and it's out there and some. homeless guy's wiping his ass with it. right now and he loves it and he loves. it man it feels great I think about it. so every morning I wake up I'm like [ __ ]. man who have thought maybe someone I'll. find it I think everything happens for a. reason though yeah so maybe maybe I had. a [ __ ] shitty album in there oh I. doubt it dude crazy but yeah I'm pin to. paper for sure are you when you write. your comedy are you no I write on a. computer I don't you think that hurts it.

no I can write faster and your comedy is. hilarious I'm just asking if you think. it makes a difference in writing pin to. paper um hurts it in terms of memory yes. so I write pen to paper when I'm writing. stuff down before a show so I'll write. on index cards and I'll write on my. notebook whoa before a show so I'll. write out key bullet points key. important parts of a bit but when I'm. writing I don't want to be hindered by. time so if I have a thought if I'm. sitting there and I'm writing and I can. type without looking right so I can. touch type so as I'm sitting when I have.

when I have ideas I can get them out. like I can write appreciation like that. that quick but if I have to write a p o. oh yeah it takes too much time yeah I. can I'm the opposite man I'm a [ __ ]. I'm an ass I I'll like take as much time. as I can writing the song but that's. nothing wrong with that that's that's I. know a lot of comedian like my friend. Mark Norman he carries a stack of index. cards in his pocket it's like that thick. why are you so worried about wasting. time no it's just better for me with.

thoughts um with time like the more like. when I'm writing something out if I have. a thought and I got to capture it if I. can get the words onto the the screen. quicker then I have less of a chance of. not forting it or something yeah not. holding on to the idea wow cuz if I have. to write out a word and they're like. [ __ ] what was I saying where did I go. with this I want to I I want to be real. sure that I have like a flow of ideas to. documenting the ideas ideas to expanding.

on the ideas and I don't want to be. Herky jerky touch typing pointing in I. don't want to be I mean you know poke. typing yeah I want to be able to just. write wow and when I can just write it's. so much I can get so much more done so I. can write paragraphs and the more. paragraphs I write the more there's a. chance that there's something fertile in. there there and then I take those things. and I take them out I put them in. another F you forget some [ __ ] always. always terrifying I know always great.

ideas in the middle of the night I'm. like I'll remember never remember never. remember I'm like this one I'll never. forget Melodies are weird Melodies are. really weird yeah how do they come to. you for the most part I just have to. have a guitar I'm different than a lot. of people a lot of people just pops in. their head I'm like no I got to I got to. sit with my guitar for like 10 hours. yeah and play it's such a different but. the same thing like I feel like writing. comedy is probably similar to writing. songs in a way how do you get jokes in. your head you have to write and you have. to think and you have to hang out with.

your friends a big one is hanging out. with our friends like so you know you. you've been to the the mothership and. see how we all hang out together. everybody's talking [ __ ] and laughing. and we're like there so like the other. night Ron White was telling this story. and I said did have you told this on. stage and he go now I haven't I go. [ __ ] please do got I'm like that is a. giant chunk of material I'm like please. write that down that is hilarious he's. done that like three or four times like. funny people are just funny people Ron. White is so funny I wish I could meet.

him so bad you can meet him you can meet. him I'll set it up are you in town. tonight I'll have you meet him I'll meet. Ron dude he'd love to meet you he's the. [ __ ] man my dad used to force me to. watch him man when they're like kids and. not that he's getting old or anything. I'm just like remember that [ __ ] he's. definitely getting old we all are do you. remember that awesome the four Dudes. when we were younger you get on DVD it. was like Larry the Cable Guy. that's what made that's what made Larry. the Cable Guy that's what made Ron White. Jeff Fox with was already really. successful it was huge everyone watched.

it I remember like my whole family was. talking about it in Oklahoma like that. I'm like it was huge that's crazy but. I've learned that what you were saying. about um that was really beautiful what. you said about you have to hang out with. your friends because a big part of it. right like communication with each other. talking about stuff people want a lot. from you as well as me as well as. whoever and. if if you're touring all year and you're. playing these shows and you're on a bus. and you're going in an arena and out of. an arena you're not like living these. things that you can write about and when.

when you're a. writer it takes it like bothers you a. lot because you're like oh like I have. an album coming out soon and I'm like. damn man I hope it's good enough because. I've been [ __ ] touring for three. years because I haven't gotten to. live the things that I want to write. about yeah like those amazing songs that. people want they it takes it takes like. experience in this life it takes living. just such a a paradox because it sucks. cuz you want to be playing the songs. you've written in the past but you also. want to be writing the songs you have in.

the future you know it's nuts well I. mean you your songs in the past you're. always going to have but it's when. there's an exciting artist like yourself. and I'm a fan I I think you're awesome. thank you Joe and when I listen to your. music I'm like this [ __ ] could. write songs like this for forever. there's certain people that it's like. David tell like my friend davel David. tell can write funny jokes forever. forever when he dies he will be funny.

the day he dies but you is he funny cuz. he's relatable no he's just awesome he's. just so good he's so polished and he's. the most underappreciated standup of Our. Generation like an [ __ ] for not. knowing him he's so [ __ ] funny man. he's so good he's hilarious is he at the. mothership ever yeah he's been he's been. um he's also he's in New York most of. the time that's where he lives um but. he's a legend like a comedy Legend and a. legend amongst comedians like. universally loved amongst. Comedians and he just [ __ ] I I would.

never imagine a time where that guy's. not going to come up with something. funny to say no [ __ ] it's not going to. exist just like you I'm not I'm not. going to imagine a time where not unless. you fall apart on us yeah well a. non-existent fear I remember when it all. when it all I [ __ ] hope so man you. too I mean you're on the other side of. it you had to have times in your life. where like in F I don't know every day. every day I'm like keep it together. [ __ ] you got to do it day every day and. that's why you get in that [ __ ] cold. PL that's why I do all that torture [ __ ]. I do to myself I'm doing it cuz I'm.

smart I know what I'm doing bro you've. in inserted yourself into everyone's. head every morning and it's infuriating. bro every time I wake up I'm like [ __ ]. dude gotta go I bet Joe's doing some. [ __ ] right now man yeah and I think that. too I think that I do I do it for myself. like I do it anyway but I do think. imagine if people were watching you and. making sure you're not half-assing this. that's another thing about me me and you. I guess but like you got to keep going. got to keep going you can't stop even if. it sucks that was a that's a crazy thing. to think about like along your along.

your journey no matter what if it's bad. or not if your jokes are bad if my songs. are bad yeah you can't you have to write. the bad jokes and you have to write the. bad songs and you have to keep going. because if you don't you're never going. to write the good one sometimes I would. imagine your bad like I've had bad jokes. that like I was like I can't figure out. what to do with this I have an idea but. it's just too clunky and then like 2. years later I revisit it oh and now I. have a new premise that ties in with it. I'm like oh yeah oh my God it slips like.

a GL makes sense perfect that's what. writing songs is like too cuz like. [ __ ] you you write like three lines. yeah that's what I was going to say like. do you have times where you write a song. and you don't like it but then you come. back and you have new ideas and then. something from that song so many that's. how all songs for me are written at. least unless except like a few of them. like the hu here's what's interesting to. think about the I don't want to say huge. cuz I'm not an ass but like the big ones. that I've written the ones that were. like successful they uh they were always.

like two minute songs like sat down and. like just [ __ ] jotted and then wrote. like did a video and then people loved. them and I was like [ __ ] man but the. ones I think about a lot the ones that I. write and write right they're always. like no one really cares about them you. know it's funny I'm like [ __ ] man maybe. I should just like get drunk and write. really fast I think Sturgill Simpson. said that about you can have the crown. like that one song I [ __ ] love that. song serg's so good man what a hero he's. the [ __ ] best dude all those guys are. he's off the grid now living on an.

island good for him yeah look I look. that [ __ ] doesn't play bro I. follow a [ __ ] Instagram called where. is sergal Simpson you follow that one. too and it's just like random [ __ ] he's. doing I'm like no I just wait for text. messages he's one of those guys you you. like you just watch him exist you're. like man I love him to death I wish I. wish I could meet him or whatever dude I. will hook it up if he's in town if he. comes visit I'll sometimes I feel bad. like I said I know like three chords and. [ __ ] and Sturgill's writing songs about. like metaphysics and all that you know. well you know Sturgill. was go so funny there's all these.

[ __ ] crazy pictures of him with. puppies and [ __ ] he's a wild bro he's. such a man's man bro I love him to death. yeah me too love that dude to death I'm. so curious about him man when I first. had him on the podcast I had heard. there's a psychedelic country guy and uh. i' listened to like a couple of his. songs and then had him on the podcast. and I was like I wonder if this guy's. going to want to play music give I. wonder if this guy's G to play music I. wonder if he's going to just want to. hang out and we just [ __ ] smoked weed. and talk [ __ ] it was amazing it was.

amazing I can't I can't smoke pot man. but you uh can it's totally possible I. guess yeah I hate sound like a [ __ ] do. you get paranoid we smoke a lot of pot. well I used to smoke a lot of pot well. after I got out of the Navy obviously I. was like okay I got to do it now cuz I. didn't smoke I didn't do drugs like N9. years obviously like every day in the. Navy right and I I didn't like even know. it was a thing that my Jr he he he. smokes quite a bit and there's nothing. wrong with it but man I lived in New. York for a little bit and one night I.

got some gas station marijuana gas. station Mar from a [ __ ] like Corner. Stop and I like smoked it and I was on. this like scaffolding thing in New York. like looking at the stars and I thought. everything was fine and then all of a. sudden my world collapsed which is such. a [ __ ] a [ __ ] thing to say I don't. really know I thought my [ __ ] body. was collapsing and I thought you know. what's crazy it was like a positive. feedback loop in my head and I was like. oh man my body's collapsing I'm [ __ ]. and I called my sister my dog's running. around the apartment I'm I'm taking my. shirt off bro my dog's running around.

with me I'm like you got to stay on the. phone with me I can't do it oh my God it. was crazy so many people have had that. experience when yeah I know and it's. like you just got to do it enough to do. it but I don't really like there's never. been a part of my life where I wanted to. do it enough to get to the point where I. was okay with it you definitely don't. have to and I take like two hits with. the guys out there and [ __ ] like it's no. big deal there you go that's all you. need but every time I think it's a. different thing I'm like okay this is. the time I'm going to [ __ ] no lose my. mind you just went way too deep you take. you do mushrooms occasionally I've been. known to do some mush yeah I've been I.

uh I I love shoms a lot I think they. should be not just legal but we should. have centers where people who are. educated in the right dosage and the. right you know for whatever it is for a. person if you want to achieve a certain. thing and they should have like. screenings and like Mental Health. readings for people and then they should. have guided psychedelic experiences and. I think it would make the world a better. don't they do that [ __ ] with like or. something I don't know think it's they.

definitely do it with I don't think it's. for everybody it's not for everybody I. don't think anything's for everybody I. think there are some people that have. psychological problems and they. shouldn't do anything that perturbs. their normal State of Consciousness wow. i' I've heard that said by experts so. I'm just repeating that and I agree with. it because it makes sense to me but for. a lot of people having uh a psychedelic. experience where you get to see yourself. outside of yourself is very beneficial. that freaks me out when you talk about.

like DMT and things like that even on. the show yeah I like I hear you talk. about stuff like that and I'm like dude. how the [ __ ] does someone just do that. to themselves not in a bad way I mean. that in like a in like a trip way or. like if you were to do something like. that I have that I have that I got a. funny story to tell you but I have that. fear in me that's like man what if it. goes wrong yeah what if you never come. back exactly we've heard about was it. Keith. Moon who who was it in uh who was like. the first guy that they said went cuckoo. from.

Acid it was the dude from Pink Floyd. right no what's. that that's the guy Ken is like the Ken. key was like the F the father of the. Psychedelic movement he was one of the. fathers of the Psychedelic movement I. bet back in the day it wasn't his uh. Barr probably wasn't as good Sid Barrett. right Sid Barrett was the the Pink Floyd. guy right and he went crazy from LSD but. didn't someone else go crazy as well S.

Bear is one of the most tragic stories. in rock and roll what do you mean go. crazy some sometimes well you know. Howard Stern talked about this once too. he said that he took a lot of ass at one. time and he was really [ __ ] up for a. long time and he's really scared that he. wasn't going to come back because there. have been times where people have had. whether it's LSD or some mind altering. substance that for whatever reason that. we don't totally understand they they. [ __ ] go and never come. back that's so weird like why would you. ever do something like that maybe it was.

Brian Wilson did he go crazy from no. disrespect it any that sounds is a. interesting album Brian Wilson from The. Beach Boys wasn't he the guy that was. also tied up with Manson he was tied up. with the Manson family well that's where. that he was going right Manson wanted to. make music with him and he was trying to. force him to like do it right so that's. probably why he was doing all that ass. he made him acid cuz Manson was doing. acid Manson was dude Manson for the. millionth time I'll talk about this how. Charles Manson ruined Dennis Wilson's.

life oh it's brother brother brother of. Brian Wilson never went to DARE so. Dennis Wilson was like the guy who was. going to manage him right or something. like that believe so something like that. like that's he was looking for his house. I think but those the Manson family most. likely was like a CIA project most. likely it was a project of MK Ultra and. it's documented by this Guy Tom O'Neal. in this book called chaos it's an. amazing book that talks about the cia's. LSD program they were dosing people all.

over the place with LSD they had a thing. called operation midnight climax where. they would go to a brothel and they. would have you know 3D uh or see-. through mirrors so they could see. through and watch the uh the John's and. The Prostitute would give the JN a drink. that was Lac with acid so this guy would. take this drink and just [ __ ] trip. balls and they would monitor them and. they would talk to them them and then. they did a bunch of different things. where they had the um the LSD studies. that they did out of Harvard that. actually created most likely was a.

factor in creating Ted kazinski because. the unibomber was a part of those LSD. studies and then this reminds me of. Pineapple Express while he was tripping. balls was thinking that technology is. going to kill all the people so he has. to kill the people that are making. technology and by the way I'm not. condoning what he did but it it's. logical yeah it's logical if that's. episode of Black Mirror it's logical it. seems like it would be an episode of. Black Mirror where the the computers. become far more intelligent than human. beings and they have no use for them.

anymore and they in fact they find human. beings to be a problem like that's. that's the idea that you're going to. create a new life form that's far more. intelligent than you I'm going to sound. that technolog is going to take over. people you think it's no way me and. Danny talk about it all the time well. people smarter than me don't think it's. going to happen like Mark Andre said I. feel that way and I'm not smart at all. sometimes we talk about it I'm like. dudee there's no way in hell that people. let things get that far to where I don't. think we have a chance I don't think we. have a chance because I it or or happen.

this is the problem and I'm not saying. the capitalism is a bad thing but when. corporations are primarily around to. make money and they have an obligation. to their stakeholders they're always. going to make money if this new frontier. is opening up and it's called artificial. intelligence and you're a part of that. and you start making money doing that. that [ __ ] train is on the tracks baby. and there's no. breaks you're not going to stop them. from Making art they're already got chat.

GPT that can have [ __ ] conversations. with you right and can diagnose. illnesses and tell you how to fix your. car I have this problem where I believe. in humanity though I do too no not that. you don't I wasn't like inducing that I. was just saying I'm just a. realist yeah but that's just a little. crazy listen man they're not going to. stop making it so if they're not going. to stop making it where's it going to go. it's going to going to go to a life form. it's just a matter of how much time does. it take I don't understand the. technology so I can't say that it's 50. years from now or 100 years from now or. five weeks from now I don't know I don't.

know what it is but they're going to be. able to create a life for wow they. already dude this is going to be this is. what I don't understand you see sorry. for interrupting no please this is what. I don't understand you see those videos. you've been seeing them for like five. years of like those weird like robotic. heads talking that look like real faces. and things like that and this is really. Elementary I just mean like those weird. bald mannequin looking heads who are. communicating AI looking things that's. been happening for five years oh yeah.

when's the when's the when's like what. everyone's scared of gonna well they've. got some pretty sophisticated ones out. of I believe Japan now there's Whitney. and her robot Oh I thought you were just. pulling up pictures of girls man I was. like what the hell that's my friend. Whitney Cummings and that's her robot so. Whitney Cummings robot can like talk and. and say things and she has it say jokes. that's a [ __ ] nightmare it's hilar. not Whitney Cummings twice but like the. fact that there's a robot well she. thinks it's hilarious she's got that's. so scary a ton of inappropriate jokes.

about the robot does no she you know. puts him in the robot's face but she's. holding its face yeah she took its head. off yeah well this is like very. rudimentary like that kind of robot yeah. that's what I mean by that it's like I. feel like everything you've seen online. when it comes to Ai and things like that. it's. all which is even scarier cuz who do you. know like like what's going on. somewhere else when it comes to a and. things like that I think we're only what. we're learning from like chat GPT is. that just from scouring the internet you.

could have a a program that's so. powerful that it could answer any. question you have in very complex ways. and paragraph after paragraph this has. been interesting in the music industry. because people like people [ __ ] every. day man 20 people send me a song by an. AI bot that I wrote and it's almost. insulting cuz like I see the songs and. it's like it's crazy to see the lyrics. that these AI Bots come up with I'm like. man I got to write [ __ ] better songs. can you see it I'm like man I wrote that.

to this AI bot and it scares the [ __ ]. out of me but I'm also like like when I. think of my head and like think about. what I can write personally from my. heart I'm like there's no way AI is. ever it's not going to be able to. replicate what your lived felt. experiences can convey in a creative way. which I think people are smarter than. people think I think that'll always. reign supreme but I think it's going to. make some hits yeah that there was like. a bunch of there was like a bunch song. yeah I was going to mention it but I. didn't want to like it was huge.

apparently it was huge yeah look it's. GNA make some hits and that's not. against. Drake Drake can still make hits too but. AI can make Drake hits and that's what's. crazy it's like when you get to a. certain point like if you have a certain. style of music like I wonder if it can. do Jazz I don't really have a real. understanding of jazz much I feel like. it would be easier to do jazz than right. this is not an insult towards Jazz. musicians I respect.

them I feel like it could do jazz well. because it has so many notes and perfect. like uh slides and things to go off of. when it comes like songwriting it might. be a little different imagine if it did. Jazz better than the Jazz musicians and. everybody got mad that'd be crazy oh. Jazz musicians would be pissed they' be. so mad they'd be so mad man there'd be a. bunch of [ __ ] uh breweries just. flames you go into some independent. coffee shop and they're just Austin and. there's an there's Jazz play but it's AI. Jazz and but it's amazing and you're.

like oh my God cuz if AI is that smart. there some dude with a bass just [ __ ]. pissed right if you think about what. like every they say I don't know. anything about music let me just say. this real quick but they say that every. note is apparently been played like all. of them right yes okay I don't know if. this is true but Bach uh don't I don't. know anything about music either but Bo. when isn't this AI then a jam your. freaking but no that's the same thing no. that's the no no no that's programmed.

that those pieces of paper or those. holes in that paper or whatever the [ __ ]. that thing is that scroll but what's. artificial intelligence right that's the. same thing you're feeding it a bunch of. [ __ ] to then recreate without some a. person yeah but it's not grow that's. mechanical growing mechanical it doesn't. grow inside itself that's why AI is. [ __ ] scary that's like saying a an. automatic watch is artificial in. factories are artificial intelligence. all the gears are spinning and Ticking. and keeping perfect time no that's. mechanical that's engineering you know. what have some respect for that's what I.

I feel like that's what andreon was sort. of saying like it's just re like reading. off of the internet sort of and saying. words that sort of to us sounds makes. sense sure for now yeah that's the thing. people been saying forever though Christ. did you see the Black Mirror episode um. with the AI and the likeness thing and. they they can steal your likeness and. they be create I saw that one did I see. that one I maybe I didn't and the Tik. Tok [ __ ] things are I'm not saying. this exactly it this has just been. around for 150 years and it's uh very.

close to it it this replaced a piano. player you know from the wild wild west. but it'll always play the exact same. thing yeah and it sounds exact same. every time you play if they have in the. W West they would have this is old as. [ __ ] yeah these are really old see. that's what I'm trying to say about. people they keep saying that sounds like. someone's playing it that sounds like a. place where someone's getting shot right. right how did they make that in the when. did you say it K these are old these I. don't know when they were first invented. but these are not new and they're old. got to get one of them man alarm clock w.

we should have one of those in the. studio got to see that's not you. know how much do you think one of those. costs a player piano right now we should. have one in the studio what's a player. piano is that what it's called it's. called there's a play like they act cuz. we should get one of them old ones. supposedly a player it' be dope just to. have around just for The Vibes as little. as two grand put it in here man. so next time this comes up you can just. just play it there's no room in here. this we have the perfect amount of. things that are in here we have no room. in here but out there we thank you. beautiful thank you very much um I'm.

scared of artificial intelligence I'm. scared of all of it because I think. human beings are going to become. Obsolete and I think we either are going. to merge with technology which we're. kind of already doing Elon always points. out that we're already a cyborg we just. hold our phone yeah you're connected. with it in a very very strange way that. you can't exist without it now it's hard. to you can for sure a lot of people do. um uh Christopher Nolan apparently does. apparently doesn't have email nothing. can't you got to talk to him and you you.

Aspire for that sometimes like in your. head you you sometimes but I like first. of all I like the distraction of my. phone sometimes if I'm bored I like to. sit and watch like pool matches on. YouTube agreed you know I like to watch. fights if I find out about fights and. like I get to watch like results I I get. to watch things that maybe i' missed. like on other organizations outside the. UFC I can watch them on my phone I. wonder why you're so yeah I wonder why. people are so I I personally like the. age that I'm at you're older than me but. like I feel ashamed of your phone use. looking at my phone so much yeah and I.

think that might be like an immaturity. thing you know what I mean where well I. can't monitor myself and I like just I. tweet some heinous [ __ ] do you I tweet. some crazy [ __ ] people people are always. like man what's going on and I'm. literally just like like 3:00 a.m. on a. Tuesday and I'm like man [ __ ] it you. know and I just get on and people I'll. wake up the next day and people are like. hey man you good I'm I'm like yeah it's. a song lyric or something like it's. crazy I like doing it's like like I said. I haven't talked to someone like this in. so so long that like my [ __ ] crazy.

tweets are the only thing that people. know me by and I'm like man I got to. clear some air bro it's so. crazy do you think about not tweeting. sometimes like it's not worth it I. actually recently deleted my Twitter i d. i go through these phases where I'm like. I do it so much then I'm like man get. off of here for a second I don't know. how the [ __ ] Elon does it I have that. self yeah dude he he Chang changed the. world today he like made it X right yeah. it's X now officially you tweet ever I. don't yeah occasionally I read things. more than I I post things do you run.

your own Twitter yeah I but I don't want. to engage with anybody you know like. these back and forth that people have. with people like I am so not interested. in doing that there's something in me. where people respond I'm like M no it's. not like um fans responding oh I see. it's uh people get into conflicts on. Twitter and I think that's ridiculous I. think it's the worst way to communic. it bothers me a lot and I think people I. see some people all they do is just lash. out at people and that is a hurt person. that's what that is that's all that is.

it's like it's not a healthy way to live. your life but you have to empathize a. little bit inside yourself too with. those people sometimes people tweet at. me and I'm like hey man but I don't. tweet back ever I always control myself. most of the time I'm not me on that I. have friends that tell me about tweets. that they read is that crazy I'm. thinking about [ __ ] telling that guy. to [ __ ] off and come on man man stop. reading that [ __ ] yeah it doesn't matter. that much I don't think at the gr it is. interesting to read all these different. people's opinions and thoughts I I do. love that about Twitter that you'll get.

like these hardcore leftist perspectives. and hardcore right-wing perspectives and. every I think as much as it makes people. uncomfortable you have to have a place. where everybody gets to talk it out. everybody gets to talk and it's. beautiful Looney people that think that. [ __ ] nuclear bombs aren't real do you. know that's a that's a big one that's. going around nuclear bombs are not real. yeah nuclear bombs are hoaxes it's a. hoax okay that's the latest Oppenheimer. was [ __ ] man it's it's semicon. connected I think to Flat Earth uh I.

think it's semic connected to Dinosaurs. Aren't real it's like a three-pronged. attack of idiocy that's crazy what is uh. what's their main reasoning behind. nuclear bombs well they they I just. think they they think they're big bombs. just not B yeah there was like some. Twitter thread I was reading where they. were talking about how nuclear bombs. have to be fake cuz Hiroshima and. Nagasaki don't have any nuclear fallout. what the [ __ ] I've been there when I was. a kid I went I saw the museum bro dude.

if you're a little kid and you're. walking through uh I wonder I seriously. wonder how many of these people that are. having these conversations online are. like Russian agents or or they feds or. they're like somebody who's just. designed to make people stupid I should. worry about the same thing though. everyone who tweets at me as a Russian. agent bro I'm saving the world baby. seriously Wonder cuz you remember when. uh free bleeding was a thing on forchan. and they talked some feminists into not. wearing tampons and just bleeding their.

pants as a sign of empowerment free. wasn't a part beding free bleeding but. it became people actually did it some. people actually did it it was a it was a. troll at first and I think a lot of. these things whether it's flat Earth or. whether nuclear bombs aren't real I. think it's a lot of crazy people and a. lot of people that watch too many. YouTube videos but I also think some of. it has to be someone that's like. monkeying with people's ideas like. throwing Preposterous ideas that are.

well articulated out there to get people. to believe in nonsense and then argue. about it when we did the uh The Ticket. Master stuff and we made it a big deal. uh my managers they came to me like hey. man you got to be ready for Bots and. things online oh yeah to manipulate how. you're feeling and make you respond in a. way where well also manipulate the. conversation about you and you get upset. it's not just manipulate how you feel. it's manipulate how the people that are. read like maybe someone doesn't know how. to feel about what you did and they're.

like uh I mean I think he's doing it for. us and then you go and read on Twitter. that guy's a selfish piece of [ __ ] that. guy this that guy that you're reading. all these horrible takes that might not. even be real they might not be people or. they might be engineered by people. through multiple [ __ ] sock puppet. accounts if you go to like a famous. person's like Twitter and things like. that you can look at who's following. them and like uh if you like scroll down. like this is [ __ ] psychotic that I. know this I don't do this myself I just. know from talking to people and things.

if you like scroll down you can see like. just [ __ ] like hundreds and hundreds. of bots and stuff like that who are just. tweeting crazy [ __ ] but their accounts. aren't really like like three people. follow them and they're following like. 600 people and all the 600 like famous. people and they're either saying like. nice [ __ ] or mean [ __ ] and you're like. this is weird it's weird what's going on. man it's time there's culture War stuff. like anytime there's stuff about like. trans rights or anytime there stuff. about Ukraine war like these right like.

uh anytime there's an abortion debate. you will read these comments I will go. through the com the the um that that. one's a big one the RO v Wade one's a. big one if you go through those comments. and you read them some of the the people. you look at their page like I I'll read. like some Preposterous take on on things. and then I go and read their page I'm. like oh this isn't even a person and. it's a lot of times it's in politics and. [ __ ] like that when I when I said that. [ __ ] about like uh whatever budlight cuz. my [ __ ] sister spouse is transgender.

I like I like hired a security guy for a. second I was like man this is crazy. people are mad at you yeah not and not. being a [ __ ] either I was like man it's. kind of scary bro I live in a city I. don't want people to come for me cuz a. lot of people were pissed it's such a. dumb reason to get mad I woke up on a. Saturday bro and I had a dude tell me I. was like a Nazi and a mutilator on my. Twitter and I was like bro what the [ __ ]. are you talking. it was psychotic it was crazy well. there's people that feel there are some. people that feel like supporting that. idea is going to make more people try it. and it's going to make more people.

regret having gone through transition. and so they really highlight the. transitioner so like people have one. side or the other side they either look. at it like it's only a good thing to. live your truth and to be trans like you. should get on hormone blockers as early. as you can and that's what that that. person that's Secretary of Health who's. that person the Secretary of Health that. used to be Rachel LaVine right that's it. is was saying like what if you go you're. going through puberty but it's the wrong. puberty like what if you're going.

through puberty and it's painful for you. because you're it's not you like look. you're still a child like the idea that. for ideology we're going to abandon this. thing that we have always known which is. that children are very impressionable. and very malleable and that they can be. manipulated and that also they can. change their minds and there is a ton of. stories. about girls who were Tom boys when they. were younger and just became regular. women and there's also tons of stories. about guys who were feminine when they.

were growing up and they became gay men. and some of my gay friends feel like. this idea that like those people should. become trans is probably homophobic and. that someone encouraging them to become. trans if that's the case is homophobic. but as a human being you only have one. sorry I was going to say because he was. saying that and this is true that in uh. Iran I believe they have like a a large. amount of transgender women and the. reason being is that homosexuality is. illegal there yes it's it's strange so. because it's illegal the way they get. around that is some of these men become.

trans whoa which is wild I like in the. Middle East there's a weird I I don't. know anything like actually but in the. Middle East there's a weird feeling. around it like if you're walking around. cuz I was I was in Bahrain and things. like that and you'll go out in town and. there's there's like a femininity to. like a lot of uh the guys and you're. like oh that's kind of listen there's a. certain percentage of guys who are gay. in all of the world yeah of course it's. just a part of being a person and that's. what um like a lot of this stuff that.

came out about the whole like. transgender thing with me I'm not. defending anything either I don't care. um my. sister is gay and she married a. transgender person and they're both. close to my heart and all I know as a. human being and a man is to like love. them cuz they're my family of course and. that's it like I don't give a like I. don't care what anyone is doing I don't. care if you support the kid thing or not. I just love them and that's what being a. human being is is knowing your own.

perspective and working from there and I. didn't realize it was going to start. such a battle defending someone that I. love so much you know cuz they're. they're um they're such a they're such a. funny amazing person to me that I've. spent so much time with and I've utmost. trust in and respect for and that is my. picture in my head of a transgender. person so I don't have the perspective. all people should be looked at as. individuals and respected and. individuals are what we should. concentrate on like who but the problem.

is everything's so tribal today oh yeah. that's why this B light thing went so. Bonkers cuz they the the people that. enjoy Bud Light are completely the. opposite tribe for the most part well I. think a large number of them than the. tribe that's into following Dylan. Mulaney I've never cared about anything. that my entire life how these [ __ ]. people care so much about it I'm like. dude you guys are they felt like it was. taking over their thing this like it's. like if Fox News went all.

gay Fox News just became the gay news. and they're like no we can't do it and. every every anchor was gay and they. talked about everything from a gay. perspective matter what hate man you. know like let's look at gays in Ukraine. and you know like no matter what it is. let's look at it from people would go. crazy yeah I can't imagine waking up. with that much on your so I think that's. what people felt like was happening with. the Bud Light can and what what like. bothered me a lot it was like I. empathize like I I see both sides and. like people think I didn't I was like oh.

man I get it man I understand both both. of these Realms of people I'm like the. problem is people like take it serious. forever like they've been Bud Light. drinkers for [ __ ] 30 years they'll. die on this hill man and all a sudden. like now [ __ ] Bud Light forever yeah I. don't care man and you just see medell. cans everywhere bro you go to a show and. there's [ __ ] medell everywhere and. you know what makes me mad is I've drank. but light so long and it's such a great. beer and I can't even drink it like. people [ __ ] look at you weird and I'm. like bro I don't I'm out of all of this. I just want to drink a Budweiser bro I. was reading about this bar owner that.

stopped selling it because people were. beating people up that were buying it. that's crazy crazy I can't imagine. buying it dude imagine buying a Bud. Light one day just getting decked in the. face for no it's just a beer it's just a. beer you [ __ ] leftist you suck you're. everything that's wrong with this. [ __ ] country support that puss that's. how this [ __ ] is going to [ __ ] take. over you got to punish these people look. at this American flag the thing that's. going on though is uh people are getting. fired like regular folks that work in. breweries are getting fired because the.

demand is down so is the demand is down. the production is down the production is. down jobs are down and that's uh an. unintended consequence you were talking. about that earlier before we got on here. and you were saying they were down like. [ __ ] the market cap or whatever is just. CRA let's see what the number is like. what is uh I've been checking the stock. every day but I guess more than 20. billion they've lost more than $20. billion. you don't smoke cigarettes in here do. you no yeah go ahead go ahead yeah we. got a fan sucks the cigarettes out cuz. we have we smoke cigars in here and. don't smoke man smoke man um they lost a.

ton of money the point is it's not. good it's real. bad and it's who the [ __ ] saw that. coming who thought that people were. going to be that upset that's what blows. my mind is so many touch my lips you. don't hear a lot of stories where the. the uh like the population can actually. control the companies right share. priceing thing and dude there's a part. of me like the humorous part of me where. I'm like holy [ __ ] good job guys man you. [ __ ] killed it but it's so wrong they. they definitely can if you know if they.

have a point Bud Light sales down by. 2.1% I don't even know what I don't even. know what started it is what's funny I. just I I saw dude I got on Twitter one. day just like everyone else and out of. context responded to somebody and. everyone hated me all of a sudden I was. like holy [ __ ] I think what they're. saying was the just find out what the. market cap loss was cuz that was the big. just Google um anheiser Bush market cap. loss 21 billion Google that that's.

heinous yeah that is. crazy what does it say here but it's. there's no way that 27 billion budlike. maker anheiser bush in Bev has lost a. whopping 27 billion in market value in. the wake of his Star Cross partnership. with Dylan Mulaney most recently slammed. by 4% stock drop this week that's June. 2nd so that's more than a month ago this. the July 4th it says six.

billion it's different wait what is is. that 60 billion or six how do you hate. something that much man six billion oh I. was looking at all the zeros with no how. they have all those zeros with no. [ __ ] commas that's rude I was in like. an emotional isn't that ridiculous I was. in a pretty weird place when all this. stuff happened too because there was. like a shooting in uh in Colorado or. something where some dude some some guy. he like ran into a transgender bar or. something a gay bar or something and. just killed a few people and it was.

crazy my sister was really emotional. about it cuz she's gay and I when all. this [ __ ] wasn't that like a non-binary. person too I that was the that was the. uh Tech I don't know what that was that. was a crazy one because that was the son. I think of a guy who is a for for guy f. a guy who was an MMA fighter wait which. one also a porn star the bar yeah isn't. that scary yeah terrifying my sister was. really really up in arms but she was.

really emotional about it and I she's my. best friend in the world I would do. anything just like you would probably. for you have any siblings yeah I have a. sister and she's my best friend no. matter what like thick and thin but. that's why I defend I love my sister too. she's awesome exactly and you would. Defender to the bits so this is like. some just really ill person who went. into bar and started shooting people but. I I don't know like what the motivation. was but I don't either and my sister my. sister was saying that like. um uh they were under she was under.

attack and things and I'm like I don't I. I just didn't like as a as a younger guy. I just both ends because she felt like. it was an attack on gay people exactly. and I I talked with her about it like as. just a normal person I'm like is it an. attack on your people or is it a is it. an individualized event that's terrible. and and heartbreaking things like that. and I think it's that because I think. that. person like I said I think that person. was a member of the. lbgt I'm pretty sure people are just.

scared man and that's so shitty or. something along those lines but either. way it's a human being doing something. evil to a bunch of other human beings. and it's crazy times now are crazy man. it's wild you think it was like this. when um like when you were younger were. things as like polarizing no no what do. you think what do you think change. things well what for one the. communication for one social media is. exas exacerbated the Gap has.

like made us more divided I think than. ever before because people huddle up in. these like Echo Chambers you think it. made things better at all it made access. to information better it made people. more informed but it's difficult to. navigate those Waters and not. everybody's going to do it some people. GNA crash on the Rocks you know and I. think that it's a new thing that people. are trying to navigate I think there's a. lot of people that are horribly addicted. to it and um they're they're just. constantly involved in these.

interactions with other people and most. of them are feuds and disagreements and. they're trying to one up each other and. trying to like post facts and dunk on. people and I always question validity of. like um I always question validity of uh. artists and things now like do you think. people are better for it or worse for it. when it comes to the talent like does. the cream rice of the top faster now or. does it just make everyone great I don't. know how to word this make everyone.

great how what do you mean myself uh. like um when I started putting videos on. Twitter and things like that I wouldn't. have been discovered in the 70s because. I would have just been playing guitar. around a fire do you. think and there's I don't mean this from. my own ego I'm just saying in general do. you think people are more talented for. it because they have to compete with. millions and millions of people now or. do you think people are less talented. for it because millions and millions of. people are getting famous I think in. general the talented people of today. like every other generation with every.

other kind of art form and even most. sports the generations as they progress. they have the benefit of learning from. the previous generation so we all. imitate each other whether it's like. Mike Tyson imitating Jack Dempsey style. or Stevie Ron imitating Jimmy Hendrick. Style we all learn from our predecessors. and when you have access to all of the. predecessors which is what you have. today you're going to get an insane. amount of talented people there's always.

going to be C like the idea that. everyone's going to be soft and. society's soft and no one today can do. that no there's still people that can do. it they're going to rise they're always. going to be here there's always going to. be exceptional human beings there's. people that are driven to do things just. like that guy was driven to climb. [ __ ] mountains some people are driven. to make great music they're driven to. write good good books or great books. they're driven to make great films the. people are always going to be driven and. they have the benefit of having seen you. know Apocalypse Now and having listened.

to the White album and there's there's. so much that people can absorb so much. greatness and so much if you were an. artist in the 1800s like how much impact. did you get from other artists you. wouldn't know that much right did you. ever hear Caribbean music did you have. you ever there was no hip hop so you're. are just inspired by other people 100%. and now we're all just inspired by each. other so we're making better things if. you use your brain wisely that's the key.

if you use your brain wisely you can be. constantly inspired and enjoy all these. people or if you use your brain like a. fool you'll be embroiled in Conflict. constantly all the time and always. [ __ ] arguing yeah it's not good. waking up angry and having the least. charitable View every person you talk. about got to be the worst life man it's. not a good life it's not good for you. it's just not and people don't realize. it because they you know they feel that.

they're just ignored or this is the way. they get attention or whatever it is. it's just a super unhealthy way to. interact and I see people doing it on. Twitter that are my friends and I'm like. bro you're killing yourself like you're. you're giving yourself stress levels. from being in these constant Twitter. battles of people you're distracting. yourself too I think being in the Navy. and things like that always scared me. because we used to have Chiefs and. things talk about like the Chinese and. the Russians and like everyone going to. war and things like. that and I always would look at like the. younger Sailors and I'm like oh.

man. sorry are we going to be okay if. anything terrible happens cuz these guys. aren't paying attention distracted. they're not they're not like um yeah and. I'm not saying that I'm tougher than. anyone ever I never will I'm just saying. when I join the Navy since I had so like. you were saying about artists you're. you're inspired by the people around you. so my dad and my [ __ ] mom and my. grandpa they were all in the Navy and I. was inspired to be in the Navy and like. [ __ ] fight for my country and [ __ ]. like that and I wonder now if people are.

like forgotten countryes like that kind. of [ __ ] like what the movies are about. MH like that like the wartime movies and. things like that there's no Great War. like Fight Club said you know uh like I. fear that if things were to happen would. people have that American Spirit like. that Empire State Building spirit that. made things like so [ __ ] legendary. and like the pictures that you see of. those guys climbing on the buildings. well that's what the propaganda that we. always get that says this how China. thinks about us and this is how Russia. thinks about us this is uh you know like.

you always get that from a lot of like. the hardcore right-wingers that's what. their perspective is is that China and. Russia are making fun of us while we are. arguing about gender Wars and whether or. not you know a transwoman can use the. woman's bathroom room and you know and. we're concentrating on these silly. things about what what what is your. pronoun and meanwhile they're trying to. make people as manly as possible and. they're trying.

to figure out a way to continue to. feminize America that's like the grand. that's insane conspiracy but you see. dude you see those like Chinese marching. videos and things like that and I I say. that with respect but like you see all. these yeah it's crazy they all like. they're all Inn and things like some. severe discipline and there's also like. uh there's there's a rejection of. feminization there they did something. recently where they like outlawed boy. bands whoa what what did they do B yeah. that kind of stuff like K-pop bands I.

was reading this I'm such I'm the worst. at this where I'll like read a headline. I go I got enough information I know now. man I know it all now I read one. paragraph in and then I got distracted. by a phone call but a lot of like theot. you find that. Jamie they China banned I found an. article21 saying that no it was a real. re I know but that says the same thing. okay China to ban [ __ ] boy bands I want. to know who quoted thaty bands I don't.

know right is that a Chinese. interpretation of of a word there's not. a guy on TV say we got a B China the. state regulator is calling for a boycott. of Pop acts that don't conform to Macho. standards as well as overly entertaining. and vulgar internet celebrities and. influencers that's crazy get out now but. do you think that's but do you think. that's um but do you think that's. propaganda it's hard to say I mean we we. don't really know like we're just. guessing like just that like they're.

guessing unless you can read Mandarin. unless you have boots on the ground over. there so you really know what's going on. unless you know like exactly what's. going on in terms of like how much. censorship how much censorship are they. involved in really um what how about. that face ID system how often are they. using is that everywhere the social. credit score system is that all real. like the Central Bank digital currency. is that all real where it's tied to the. credit like what is is this ubiquitous. is it through the entire country is it. you know what is this like what are we. looking at and it's hard to say because.

I'm sure there's propaganda that comes. from both sides sure there's propaganda. from them there's propaganda from us. it's hard to say today like what exactly. is going on but it seems like they are. doing things at least in some videos. that I've watched where there that that. sort of technology what they were. talking about with um the ears in that. cartoon they're doing something similar. at least a test version of with children. in classes where they have this headgear.

on and the headgear is monitoring. whether or not the kids are paying. attention I I was taking a I'm going to. college right now and I was taking a. proctor exam the other day and I was. talking with my buddy about it and he. was saying that we might sound like. idiots if this doesn't exist but they. were saying that like in the classrooms. in like China and things like that or. whatever country um they have like like. video cameras that monitor where eyes. are going that's what they were talking. about in this thing so these kids had. these headsets on and they were. monitoring their faces to make sure that.

they weren't looking at their phones and. they weren't looking somewhere else and. then this headgear they had on it was. indicating whether or not they were. paying. attention that's crazy yeah so like I. guess it's like a different frequency. but doesn't that make you a different. person like when you're cheating in. class as like fourth grader doesn't that. make you resourceful it does a little. that's why that's why I believe in like. the America like I I'm conflicted in my. own head because like all these uh this. has nothing to do what we're talking. about but uh like a lot of right-wingers. and left Wingers I feel like they have.

like the wrong idea of what the American. Spirit is but also on this hand I'm like. America is the best country in the world. we got it figured out we're the we we're. like the American Spirit is alive and. well and I think we'd be fine if it come. if it came down to it if we fall apart. to totalitarianism it's a giant blow to. humanity. because if totalitarian reaches the. place that has the most. freedom and the problem with freedom is. people are willing to give it up if it. suits their side and you're hearing this. from people all the time you used to.

hear from people on the right but now. you're hearing it from people on the. left where they're willing to silence. people's Free Speech if they think that. what they're saying is dangerous and you. can't do that because no one gets to. decide what's dangerous and what's not. dangerous because if you allow people to. they keep moving that [ __ ] goalpost. and then they'll silence you and then if. you're uh liberal and you vote for this. you want this to happen and then it gets. in place and then a republican wins and. they use that same thing to stifle. liberalism it's all competition so this. is the kids with the things in their. head and that green light is apparently.

or one of the different color lights. white means you're offline he look so. happy you're not paying attention this. is a black mirr episode yeah this is. wild and so they use facial recognition. to make sure the kids are paying. attention who owns The Wall Street. Journal look at this facial recognition. I do not know look at their facial. recognition how Wild is that that's what. I was talking about with the proed exam. I was taking yeah imagine but dude. there's such a fine line between like.

safety and cheating and. like is it good or bad well it's not. cheating but but it definitely is. enforcing uh concentration so is the if. the results are better like right if. they get better grades is that worth it. to like completely give up Freedom like. that and to have a [ __ ] headband on. and then people don't rise to the top. either if they're great they probably. still. will because like even if you're paying. attention you might be you might be just. a dumbass you know whereas some people.

are paying attention and they have. brilliant ideas like you're always I. think there's always going to be. competition whether you're focusing or. there's there's going to be more. competition probably because more people. will be forced to be disciplined you. know forced to they'll be forced to do. the work as opposed to like [ __ ] off. and you know procrastinating yeah but. those people do amazing [ __ ] too like. the shitty guys man in CL I was shitty. man I never had good I was always shitty. like teachers hated me and if you want. good songs you know what I mean yeah.

like what if dude and also I don't have. kids yet um if your kid came home and. was like hey I had this headband on. today that was making sure I didn't look. to the paper next to me how would you. feel about. it not good I would not be into that I. would not allow that I would I would I. would find another school that I just I. just think you have to have a certain. amount of Freedom especially coming from. a person like me who's a creative person. like I do what what I do doesn't it.

didn't. exist when I was a kid it's a new thing. like to be able to podcast or standup. always existed but that's also like it's. a very creative thing you got to be able. to Freedom podcasting is fairly new. right it's like 20 years old but standup. is you know 100 years old or whatever it. is but like the most recent versions of. it you can't have that unless you have. freedom of expression you can't have it. it won't exist Chinese Primary School. stops using headbands to study people's.

concentration levels after public outc. oh that's good that's good that's a good. well that's good that there's public. outcry this was four years ago this. article got posted interesting it's. weird that the video has been going. around even recently video Yeah. interesting so the people reciprocating. information yeah well the outcry. probably just keeps continuing because. people are terrified if of that being. the dystopian future that we're all. monitored constantly by big brother and. that we give into it because we want a. little bit of comfort which is what's. [ __ ] scary that's what's scary that.

people taking advantage of bad. situations and you know if there's. something breaks out in this country. some kind of a war or something really. scary you have to be very careful of. anybody whose solution is to take away. your rights to protect you got to be. very careful of that because that's what. tyrants do and they've always done. things like that. always and they have all the information. yeah that's the other thing that's crazy. they have all your data they have. everything they have your geot tracking. location they can they know where you. are con from the time you were a kid for.

me at least for me that thing on your. [ __ ] iPhone can track you and you can. decide to let your friends track you. other people can track you too that's. scary man that's freaky bro that's. [ __ ] freaky I can't do it I can't do. it and every the internet's weird it's. all weird but so is this artificial. intelligence thing that we're talking. about and then this UFO thing like why. is that why is that like in the. mainstream discussion so frequently. today you think it's a distraction from. something I don't know man dude aliens.

are real right I I that was decided I. well listen I don't know but I think. it's very unlikely that we are the only. Consciousness in the universe the only. intelligent conscious communicating. being other than like whales and orcas. so if that's the case case so if there. are things out there it's very likely. there's going to be many more than we. can even imagine and it's very likely. they're going to be older than us so. they probably have figured things out. and if they evolved in a stable.

atmosphere in a place that doesn't have. meteor showers slamming into it every. few thousand years like Earth does maybe. they got way further ahead of us very. quickly you know maybe they didn't have. to go through all the brutality maybe. they never had dinosaurs maybe they. didn't have to have an asteroid hit them. to kill off the dinosaurs maybe if maybe. they were like small lizard intelligence. that evolved and they're way more. advanced and they're way more advanced. like a million years but did you see the. court you saw the court case right like.

guy I'm very closely watching the guy. being like yeah man we got we got aliens. in the back bro he definitely didn't say. it like that but he um he said that. there um are reports that indicate that. there are biological entities that have. stored in freezers that are of. alien some whether it's dimensional or. from another planet something very. different and they have crashed vehicles. not just one but many as many as 12. crashed vehicles and then there is a UFO.

crash retrieval program and they believe. that this program was probably what they. used when they went to Brazil in was it. 96 the Virginia case that long ago. there's a a there's a case in 1996 that. uh James Fox did a great movie on called. the the moment of contact and the moment. of contact is all about this one town in. Brazil where everyone was there when. this UFO was over their city like. everyone has a story was there evidence. like with there videos and things like. well there's a guy who died who carried.

the body to a car he carried the body to. a car and they brought it to a hospital. and the hospital's like get that [ __ ]. thing out of here and they brought it to. another hospital and they're like get. that [ __ ] thing out yes it's all Doc. that's all documented and then the guy. who is a soldier who carried this alien. being that guy died of a horrible. bacterial infection that they couldn't. cure they didn't know what the [ __ ] it. was he died really quickly within 2. weeks he was dead and he was a young fit. guy no way yeah so this scary they have. a [ __ ] giant like UFO monument in the. middle of the city like when you enter.

into the city in Virginia there's a huge. UFO there and James fox is like he's. filming all this and talking to these. people his guy who was the police he was. a police officer that investigated the. crash when they brought him to the scene. they brought him to the woods to the. scene of where this thing's supposedly. crush the guy breaks down and starts. crying I mean he's [ __ ] weeping. weeping so either he's the greatest. actor in the world why was he weeping. cuz he was there cuz he remembered that. that thing he remembered seeing that.

crashed UFO he remembered seeing those. the this alien body and these girls they. talked to these two girls that ran into. one of the things that was still alive. and they described it there's an actual. statue of it that we have in the the. studio or in the um the comedy club yo. and that's them today that's them when. they were little girls and that's them. today the whole town saw it man the. whole town like he he kept interviewing. people after people that talked about it. that were. there it's CRA what's he describing that.

stick for I wonder what that's about I. think he's probably describing the. impact how the thing slammed into the. ground there was a crazy lightning storm. apparently and this thing fell in the. crazy lightning storm it got hit and. disabled and crashed into the Earth and. apparently the Air Force sent something. to retrieve it so the Air Force flew. into Virginia Brazil and that's all been. documented by James Fox too that they. did send a plane there to go retrieve. this thing and now that this guy's come.

forward and then the government is. allowing him to say it I was about to. ask yeah so the government is allowing. this guy to say they have a retrieval. project and this is all like they're. allowing him to say these things I. wonder why well he only has to he only. can stay within the lines like and you. saw that during the testimony there was. multiple. there multiple questions they had where. he said I can't answer that I can answer. it what is what is it called an aiff is. that how they say it so aiff is like the. way I've been exp is explained to me.

make sure this is right it's like a. completely soundproof room that has no. electronics okay here it is a sensitive. compartmentalized information facility. it's an ultra secure room where. officials and government contractors. take extraordinary precautions to review. highly classified information so they go. into this like very very protected room. and then they'll break out these laptops. and they'll break out these these. photographs and videos and they'll show. them like what these things are they'll. show them the biological entities.

they'll show them the crashed UFOs. they'll show them the high resolution. videos of these things hovering over. military bases they'll show them all the. reports of them shutting down all the. nuclear. systems it's wild [ __ ] if it's true but. it doesn't feel true. why would it not feel true I don't know. because maybe if aliens are real maybe. if this disclosure is so real maybe it's. so mindblowing that it just feels like. nonsense to me but something about it.

just feels a little fake you said that. you said the UFO thing happened in 96 I. think the Virginia Brazil one was 1996. yeah was if it's been around for that. long why is it just now Roswell New. Mexico was. 1947 the Roswell New Mexico crash was on. the front cover of the Roswell Daily. Record I have it. framed it's the front cover of the. Roswell Daily Record they talk about a. flying saucer that crashed in a. ranch and so these people or these.

military people who were there reported. initially who is the guy like pull up. the Roswell story this is a crazy story. yo so that that was on the front page of. the Roswell Daily Record. raaf captures Flying Saucer on Ranch in. Roswell region no details of flying disc. are revealed and then they talk about. the people who are it's really difficult. to read The Print in this yeah but some.

someone has to approve of this getting. printed and things like that so I feel. like if this the next day then the next. day they said oh it was just a weather. balloon sorry made a mistake and so they. had this press conference where they. posed with these pieces of luminum foil. and like very clear weather balloon the. problem is all the eyewitness have a. very different account they talk about. this kind of metal that you could. crumple up in your hand it was light as. as paper and then it you would open it. would go right back to its original form.

they talk about these pieces of metal. that were impossibly strong but. impossibly light and they had some kind. of writing on them that looked like. Egyptian hieroglyphs or some kind of. ancient WR some some kind of symbols on. it that they didn't know what the [ __ ]. they were that looked very alien and. they talk about biological entities that. were in the crash that they transported. to this funeral home and they there's. this documentation of them making these. small coffins and there's a lot of weird. [ __ ] where people that were there talked. about seeing the bodies there's multiple.

versions of the same story now it could. be just nonsense it could be like a. folklore thing that people just started. talking about and everybody ran with it. and then it becomes like a a tourist. trap like people go to Roswell to you. know the [ __ ] that'd be crazy. economic boosters it is an economic. booster UFO freaks go to Roswell New. Mexico every year do you ever think. you're going to be that old person in. those old videos that you think like. when you used to watch about aliens. they'd be like man I saw the saucer in.

my backyard you know what I mean I hope. so like in the future you're just you're. just the guy on the video not you either. I'm just saying imagine if that is you. like imagine if you're on tour and uh. you guys are out in the middle of. nowhere and you're at a [ __ ] truck. stop you pull over to take a leak and. you step outside there's a [ __ ] UFO. just. I've I've seen it you have taking. shrooms yeah yes walked outside saw saw. UFO they're probably really you probably. can't see them. normally the shrooms reveal them no way.

crazy well it might be but they getting. more and more real now it's freaking me. the it might be more complicated than. we're thinking Interstellar stuff not. just Interstellar but interdimensional. and what what does that really mean what. does that mean and maybe there's certain. certain times where we have access we. don't know how to do it like we can't. just go there but maybe there's an. opening and maybe they have access to us.

maybe they can create these openings and. just appear maybe they're from something. that is so different than what we're. experiencing here on Earth that we can't. even understand what the [ __ ] they're. talking there might be a million years. more advanced than us in a completely. different dimension and they figure out. a way to visit and they can figure out a. way to just. just show up and hover and move around. things look if we can send a probe to. Mars and Elon can shoot a Tesla into. space Oh yeah who the [ __ ] knows what. some.

insanely Advanced civilization that has. no like warlike primate Behavior like we. do like maybe they've completely evolved. past that maybe they have no jealousy. and rage and envy maybe they've engineer. weird negative emotions out and maybe. they read minds and maybe these things. are just insanely Advanced and it's. their job to help Usher in other. civilizations into the next stage of.

existence which would be an existence. without war and violence an existence. where human beings sort of achieve. almost a hive mind that makes the whole. God conversation crazy well God might be. the. universe instead of thinking that the. universe created God the universe might. be God it might be conscious the whole. thing might be. conscious why not when I look around. though here's my thing sometimes when. I'm like running or like hiking or I'm.

on the lake or I'm playing a show and. everyone singing back to me or I feel a. certain way towards someone or. whatever those moments are like too. Grand and like beautiful to like not. believe in God for me you know what I. mean you ever feel like that you ever. been on a mountain top and you're like. like oh man this is crazy I believe in. something I I think the problem that. people have is the word and when you say. God people automatically think of this.

very rigid organized religion. perspective that's based on Ancient. scripture it's ruined it for a lot of. people yeah whether it's the god of you. know whatever religion you choose to. believe in God there's a bunch of. different religions a lot of them. believe in God right but what if you. don't want to think that there's. something going. on something like insanely. complex that's constantly moving at.

least in our lives in our existence. constantly moving in this ever evolving. Direction why it is it possible that. this is how the universe creates more. universes and the universe creates new. things and these things become more and. more advanced and everything continues. to always Advance just like we were. talking about it doing with music and. movies maybe it's how it does it with. planets maybe it's how it does it with. everything like things constantly get.

better and the beings get better at. manipulating reality they get better at. creating black holes and being able to. pass through wormholes and being able to. manipulate space. time how did you get to that perspective. if you're from like Boston and things. like that like did you grow up in the. Catholic Church uh well I was Catholic. church when I was a kid uh did Catholic. school for first grade uh but then you. know we got out of it I was a horrible.

experience not good and then I kind of. fell out of religion as a young kid. because my Catholic School experience. was so bad it's like a really mean nun. wow who taught first grade but it was. also a good lesson that like there was. people like that in the world cuz I. never met anybody like that before like. religiously mean like about God and. things like that just like everybody in. my life nice to me I was a little kid so. everybody's nice to me my grandparents. are nice my uncles are nice everyone's. nice and then all a sudden you're in. this school where this nun is a [ __ ] and. I was like oh [ __ ] I didn't know there's. people like this out there like this is. crazy I didn't know there's going to.

people be just just mean to you for no. reason not they not yell at you if you. did something wrong I experienced that. every kid does but mean to you like. corporal punishment scaring you telling. you're going to oh yeah she hit people. sure they hit you with rulers but tell. you're going to I'm going to make you. sit on a nail in the closet you're not. going to be able to go home you're never. going to see your parents again like. crazy [ __ ] see growing up I had the opp. like religion and things was was so nice. to me cuz I grew up like in a Baptist. Church and everyone was like loving and.

[ __ ] and like yeah there's something. about that Catholic guilt you know. there's there it's hu it's weird I I've. been around I'm not saying cism is weird. but it's there's a weird there's a. strictness to it that makes you feel. unwelcomed yeah and there's a lot of. these uh priests they like to drink. which is insane they like to get [ __ ]. up this this priest give gave my. grandmother her uh you know her last. rights and I kept saying her name wrong. and we people had to correct him like.

her name was Josephine he was saying. Geraldine left behind a great family. he's like it's Josephine her name is. Josephine he was just going through the. motions and I remember seeing him before. they started the thing and looking in. his face and thinking like this guy is. drunk a lot like he had that that those. Gin Blossoms all over his nose and his. face like like when he was just talking. to people and everything when he was. getting ready and setting up I was. looking at his face like wow this guy. looks super unhealthy communion wine. baby yeah well not just communion wine.

I'm sure they're getting drunk that's I. mean imagine that's not allowed right I. don't know is it allowed but imagine you. your occupation does not ever allow you. to be in love that it makes me did you. see that Mark wallberg movie which one. where he like um he he gets paralyzed he. gets paralyzed and he just wants to be a. priest no I didn't see that one oh my. good you got to watch it I forgot it's. father stew father stew you have to. watch it it's so good all he wants to do. is be a priest and he there's like a. there's a girl in it and there's some.

big actress actresses and actors in it. and he like falls in love with her I. don't even remember what happens but he. gets paralyzed and things and I'm not. going to ruin that movie either but it's. crazy is a new movie I think it's on. came up with in the last year I think. there's so many movies out it's. impossible to keep up I got this crazy. story I was in Chicago it involves like. the church that I grew up in and things. like. that when I was a kid like 13 and 14. years old we used to go on all these. mission trips like as a church and we. used to go to Chicago to this place. called Maywood and we would help all.

these kids out and like run a VBS there. was nothing pretentious or weird about. it we would just go and like play. kickball with kids and like talk about. God and Jesus and. things and it was this park in Chicago. that we would always go to like Maywood. Park and it's kind of the rougher side. of Chicago but like being a kid I was. naive to that so I didn't know so it's. beautiful to think about that I had no. idea that it was like the rougher part. of town it was just fun for us and um we. went back to Chicago two weeks ago to. play uh the windy city smokeout and I. was there and I was there for three days. so I didn't really have anything to do.

and one of the days I was off I um I. wanted to go to that Park that I went to. when I was 13 so it's been like 17 years. or 15 years since I'd been. there and I I haven't talked to the. pastors and things that I had like we. had pastors growing up I don't know. about Catholicism but they're just. called pastors like the who were over. you and. um on the way there I had no idea where. I was going I didn't even remember where. this park was in Maywood Chicago I. didn't know where Maywood was so I just. typed in Maywood into the Uber app and.

my it was so beautiful man like the Uber. started driving me out there and I was. riding out there and I was like where is. this park I have no idea and uh there. was just the the story is all over the. place sorry but when we used to go on. that mission trip Chicago had been. flooded really terribly and there was. this lady named Miss Barnes. who I had who I had like helped clean. out her house when it had flooded really. bad and uh she had written me letters. while I was in the Navy like all like. letters throughout the years and I would. write her back and things like that and. I would send them back and forth one day.

I sent her a letter and it was sent back. to the sender cuz she had passed away. and I I had known when I saw the the. damn uh like back to Cinder thing so I'm. on my way to this old church that we. used to do these missions out of and I'm. calling my old youth pastors and I'm. like Hey where's this where's this park. at where's this church at at and finally. I get in touch with this guy named John. who lives in Maywood and he sent me all. the addresses to like the park and the. house and everything and I go out there. and it's been 15 years and I'm sitting. in this park and it's a Friday at like.

600 p.m. and when we used to go out. there they used to be just be all these. kids and things like that playing. kickball and like in the basketball in. the basketball courts and at the park. and like there was an American flag. hanging up and stuff and I went out. there and there was nobody and it was. completely desolate it was 5:00 p.m. on. a Friday in the summertime and I was. just sitting on the I was sitting on the. bleachers and I was looking around I was. like man this has got to mean something. it's got to mean something terrible or. crazy like are people just inside now do. people just hang out inside and then I.

went to the house that she had lived in. Miss Barnes the one that I'd cleaned out. from the flood and no one was there and. this John guy who I'd got in contact. with had bought her house had purchased. her house like the mission guy and. that's like those are the reasons why I. believe in God cuz that was crazy like I. was driving out there and I had no idea. where I was going what I was doing and. it turns out the guy I talked to was the. guy who had purchased Miss barnes's. house who I who I'd written letters to. all those years and I'd been to that.

Park and everything men you ever like go. back to somewhere you like you spent. time ass as a kid oh yeah weird is it. weird do it not freak you it freaked me. out a lot I was listening to music and I. was walking around and I remembered like. stepping in the same places what was. weird is for me when I so random man it. just reminded me of going to church and. things like that all when I was a kid. and I went back to my town where I grew. up um what was weird was like I had. these memories that were just basically. like placeholder memories they were. like like framework where I knew the.

specifics of stuff but I didn't really. have a memory of it until I went there. and then all of a sudden like everything. filled in that's what freaked me out I. was at the house and things like that. and I was walking around I was like oh. my God I remember lifting this here and. like kicking this ball here like yeah. you it fills in. that's like the Nostalgia of all that. [ __ ] is nuts man I'm not even that I'm. not even that old you know what I mean. I'm not like yeah but things from your. childhood like that's a long ass time. ago when you know you think of how much. different you are from when you were a.

kid that dimensionally freaks me out. yeah it's I was talking about it last. night man I was in this [ __ ] dude I'm in. I was in this [ __ ] kidy pool in this. yard and I was like talking to someone. about it I was like the reality of then. is the same as the reality of now but. it's all so different and weird that's. got to be some weird dimensional thing. man where it's like that existed too. like each day is the same yeah and you. think about it and like is your. Nostalgia like a. [ __ ] what are your memories man like. what is this like how do how does that. mean less than the present well they're.

definitely shaky you know we all know. our memories are shaky unless we like. even if things like your songs like. stuff you wrote like you have to. concentrate on them right you're you. wrote them and sometimes you could. forget the words yeah of course like. memor is weird and memory of like. specific things from the past is always. slippery until you're there again you're. like oh it really freaked me out it. really freaked me out to be sitting. there cuz I remember like my dad with. hair and [ __ ] you know what I'm saying. and it was like I called my dad when I.

was there and I was like man this is. nuts like do you remember your friends. when they were in high school and now. you see them now and they're all grown. up and you're like what the [ __ ] and. they're all like engaged and having kids. and [ __ ] and you're like wait this came. out of you what's going on I remember. you throwing a tequila bottle at coach. Craigs you know what I'm saying like and. now a sudden they have kids of their own. you're like whoa this is wild and some. of them you're like oh yeah this wild. guess man this is wild and. um damn it's fascinating it's becoming. an adult human being is fascinating and.

then as you're becoming an adult human. being more and more other people are. becoming adult human beings they have a. different way of living their life than. you do and that's why like every. generation looks at the new generation. oh these [ __ ] kids today but. everybody and everyone says it and I've. been feeling it so vividly what scares. me the most about growing up is having. songs it's got to freak you out too. about having podcasts do you ever feel. like you're going to look like having. all these songs from the time I was 22. to. now sometimes I'm like I've made peace. with it it's just what I do I have.

conversations with people like my kids. are going to hear it one day like yeah. my kids listen to my podcast before. specific ones especially people that. they like on it artists that they like. they'll listen to this one I'm like your. your most vulnerable moments you know. your kids yeah that's that's beautiful. though man that's cool you know we're. [ __ ] talking about aliens man that's. crazy well sorry to your kids that's a. fascinating thing to talk about my kids. talk about it too it is everybody does. it's one of those things where it's like. if it's true it's real the whole map.

that we have of reality is very. different now if these things really are. visiting and they really are these super. sophisticated creatures that have been. here from the beginning they have been. around as long as the Earth's been. around they' been visiting and checking. in on us it'll change it'll change the. trajectory of the entire universe like. it'll it'll like that's why I brought. God up earlier that's why I went into. that [ __ ] Chicago story but like. it'll change how people have lived their. lives for the last yeah 600 years which. is scary man that's got to do something. terrible is it though is it scary or is.

it good is it just EV or is it just is. is it just is it just just is life this. is life this is what it is like you can. just decide you wish we were living in. 1967 when you had a [ __ ] call on a. phone that was you ever meditate sure. really yeah. all the time is it is it out of just. like purely I do it when I want to clear. my thoughts I do it uh in the sauna. because it's a good way to concentrate. while I'm cooking myself yeah I've tried. to before sorry the way you said that.

that like everything just is yeah isn't. that the thing isn't that what. meditating is it's like everything is. coming and going for some people for. some people it's just a chance at. Stillness or attempt at Stillness you. know. but it is what it is if if the aliens. are real we're not going to be able to. change it because we don't like it yeah. true you just have to deal with it like. you just have to deal with it let's look. the war stuff we live in fascinating. times I wonder people isn't that like a. curse may you live in fascinating times. who said.

that isn't that I think that was like an. ancient curse people have had to have. talked about this forever though oh yeah. like forever you know like that's why I. get freaked out by conversations like. this I'm like man are we just no because. this is a different time I mean this is. a time where you're having Congressional. disclosure yeah this is the time where. people who are on the inside are being. allowed to talk about these things may. you live in interesting times the. Chinese curse would say may he live in. interesting times that's a Chinese curse. interesting that's insane there you go.

and we we definitely live in interesting. times we're just writing songs man. aliens exist and I'm just writing songs. and just living life listen man I think. we did like three hours and yeah time. flew by wow yeah kick me out man great. time my friend it was awesome wow this. is a pleasure and uh I really appreciate. you coming in it's been fun hanging out. with you I loved your show and I'm a fan. and I appreciate everything you do man. this a lot of good time appreciate it. let's go all right oh yeah man bye.

everybody have a good evening. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music].