Joe Rogan Experience #2014 - Jim Gaffigan

[Music]. by night. night yeah I know no I just I just saw. that clip of Jordan I I don't eat I. don't miss it either yeah he's got weird. autoimmune issues. so for him there was like an Elimination. Diet and he found out there's just a. bunch of things that his body was. reacting to in a very negative way and. one of them apparently was vegetables a.

lot of it is like just complex. carbohydrates. you know a lot of it is a bread and. pasta and stuff like that a lot of. people get really inflamed eating that. and it causes a host of issues isn't. that great I mean it's well eventually. it it isn't there you know like even the. problem with chemo you know I'm a guy. who tells diarrhea jokes so I know a lot. about this. isn't it isn't the expectation that. if they could kind of uh concierge your.

cancer treatment to your specific type. of cancer for your type of body or your. type of cells that that's why people are. going to be able to live to 100 rich. people are going to be able to live to. 100. um I think there's definitely a lot of. research that's done in in that way but. I I also think that it depends there's. so many factors when it comes to cancer. there's environmental factors this is. lifestyle factors like what you're.

eating like how much stress you're under. there's a lot of genetic issues there's. a lot going on when it comes to cancer. yeah. I mean there is like I mean. you just hear about you know people from. in the Philippines like an entire family. everyone died of cancer at 40. you're. like huh yeah what's what's going on. there yeah you know like unfortunately. some of it is genetic some people just. have a [ __ ] roll the dice genetically. you know and then are you saying that.

because I am all recessive genes do you. I mean I am literally I'm like. everything's recessive. I literally went into the dermatologist. and he's like you know what we're just. gonna like you know because I don't know. if you ever get the cancer stuff the. basal cells he's like we should probably. just chop off your arms because they're. just all based themselves. so it's like I am uh you know I'm uh all. recessive genes a lot of pair of blue.

eyes white people really white people. deal with the sun back I don't know the. day before sunscreen well I think I. think some of it is uh you know if. they're in. Northern Ireland or Scotland I I don't I. think it's all right yeah they're also. not living past 40 right. right I mean they're kind of yeah. they're like look at this thing called. alcohol and then they're like let's do.

this for the rest of a time we're on. Earth well back then like in the early. early days they drank it because a lot. of water was tainted right oh yeah. during Jesus's time everyone drank wine. and beer yeah that's why the apostles. fell asleep is because they weren't. drinking. uh water they were it was cheaper to. drink wine yeah and it was more of a. party atmosphere and probably better for. you than getting horrible toxins in your. water you know.

viruses and bacteria and whatever the. [ __ ] is in Still Water that's sitting. around for a while yeah it is like our. is there any difference between any of. these Waters. because you know like there's oh this. water I mean I like Fiji Water hopefully. they'll send me a case now it's supposed. to be pretty good but is there. and that's got to be very good for the. environment to have water shipped from. an island in the North Atlantic but as. long as they're using fossil fuels to.

get here. I mean there's water 10 feet from me but. I'd like to get mine from like this. Nordic country that's like uh really far. away no but is there any difference. between these Waters yeah except for the. Poland Spring there's a guy that uh Tom. Segura and Christina pazinski event on. their show what's his name Martin rinse. I forgot his name is is that an actual. water connoisseur like a water expert oh. wow and he rates the the different.

mineral content and Waters. so he's like a summer yay yeah for water. yeah of water yeah yes what is his name. there you go Martin Reese Martin Reese. yeah interesting guy and he talks to. them about water it's all he brought a. bunch of different kinds of water and. tells them what's good and what's bad. you really ideally want water in a glass. bottle you don't really want it in. plastic there's a lot of issues with. plastic with leeching if the water gets. you know you don't know what's happening. between the time it gets bottled and how.

it gets shipped to you it could be. sitting in the sun it could be sitting. in a hot warehouse and plastic bottles. leech these chemicals into the water. which are endocrine disruptors oh yeah. not good yeah no that's scary. even water even water well I remember I. watched this um. thing about I don't know all these all. the plastic that's in the ocean and then. the fish eat the plastic and then. and I just was like I'm so relieved I.

don't like fish. because you're always like oh fish are. so good for you I'm like yeah well now. I'm gonna stick to burgers this is. mercury too Mercury is a big one a lot. of there's a lot of Plastics in there. that that some of these kids these fish. they can't even like they they can't. mate or whatever I don't know I know I. sound scientific it's so specific did. you do a lot of reasons they can't do.

things they get made or something they. can't mate they're not interested. they're not interested yeah not good. yeah and it's a lot of people think that. when you recycle plastic bottles that. they get recycled but they don't most I. think it's something around the. neighborhood of 90 of all plastic. single-use bottles can put into. landfills if or they get shipped to. other countries and other countries wind. up polluting with them yeah yeah so.

what's the solution. well really there are there are. biodegradable Plastics and biodegradable. Plastics that are made out of hemp fiber. it's that's a real thing like they can. make plastic made out of things other. than petrochemical products. yeah but isn't it a little bit like the. fake sugar like there's always I had a. joke about it like there's a oh every. you know when we were growing up there. was Sakura and then they're like oh no. it causes cancer and they're like oh. here's a new fake sugar and then two. years later that one causes cancer it's.

like everything causes cancer they're. just coming out now about aspartame. they're talking about aspirin yeah which. everyone's been saying that's the one. that's okay yeah like no that's not good. for you either. it's just sugar is the great Satan right. yeah it's it's just it's just not good. in the form that we have it mostly you. know mostly it's added sugar to things. and sugar from fruit is fine because it. comes in a in a digestible way it's.

connected to fiber it's connected to the. the material of the fruit it's good for. you it's actually it's okay I mean it. has sugar but the way your body digests. it it processes the fiber it's a slower. release what's really bad is drinking. sugar like when you're drinking like. Coca-Cola like that is alien to your. body your body is like how is this here. like this is you never there's nothing. in nature that gives you sugar in that. form did you ever see that video of the. evolution of the because the Coca-Cola.

like in the 20s or 30s used to be. something that. you would go down to the soda shop and. you would get a tiny bottle of coke and. you'd kind of have a tiny and then just. the sizes. growing over decades. yeah yeah you know and then the 7-Eleven. slushie is just bananas it's the the. your main lining sugar just right into. your blood but all right so so I think. that everyone understands that like.

sodas uh because I want you to get sewed. by a suit by the Coca-Cola company and. the Pepsi company uh but. that is something that is obviously some. I you know but I think most. even even people that do drink Diet. Cokes are like I know this is bad yeah I. mean but I do think. the the you know I don't think that we. uh as a society have embraced the fact.

that social media is. one of the worst things that has. happened to human beings ever for sure. for health for like mental health mental. health yeah for sure it's terrible. there's documentation there's there's a. great book called the um what is it the. American mind uh the Jonathan hate book. what is it called. uh. the coddling of the American mind yeah.

and uh it's it's it it documents the. self-harm and suicide rates of young. kids particularly girls yeah it's real. bad yeah a lot of online bullying. between each other like hate and vitriol. and just the the comparing themselves to. other people unfavorably and now with. filters and like you're essentially. comparing yourself to fiction it you. know it's interesting when you consider. for Generation upon generation.

uh people would look at their parents. and their parents would say you know I. had to walk five miles to school I had. to walk uphill both ways and all that. and I look at my teenagers and I'm like. oh they have it harder they they. definitely have it harder like you know. like in high school dealing with you. know you were compared to people in your. high school now these kids are compared. to everyone on the Internet it's like. the just the you know the the uh the.

acts you know like the you know like we. used to when we were kids you're like. hey Tommy's dad who's divorced has a. Playboy we're gonna go over there and. we're gonna look at it in a field like. we did that when we were like 13. yeah. and now it's like the porn is thrown at. you and so like. I look at you know I think kids got a. much harder they definitely have it much. harder psychologically yeah no doubt and.

just just the online bullying and the. the way they they tweet to each other. and you know and leave Instagram. messages and Snapchats it's just. it's evil yeah and they they do it to. each other on a daily basis and it's a. normal thing for kids to just be real. shitty to each other online and and they. don't have to see the yeah the reaction. yeah yeah and it is strange because. among you know it's there is this kind. of the banter of the you know the.

greatest form of affection. you can give another comedian is to give. them [ __ ] yeah right but that's also. you you also can get a temperature of. how they're truly responding to it you. know I mean like you you know you guys. pick on Bert and everything but like if. you got a sense that it was truly. hurting his feelings you would be more. constructive about it yes for sure for a. little bit then go right back then you. go back and then you would be like.

excuse me I have to go sit on my pile of. uh Jimmy Buffett like money. Margaritaville. the machine restaurants it's just. inevitable yeah he has to have them. they'll be in Florida yeah yeah but they. will be and there will be it is it's. just inevitable there's worse food for. you for sure yeah it'll be great and and.

by the way he's gonna outlive everyone. foreign. at your funeral he's having so much fun. and yet he's so unhealthy but yet he's. always laughing and having fun there's. got to be a balance in there that's. being achieved he's so unhealthy but. it's but there is like you see him like. uh snowboarding yeah he's not like. somebody. like there is it's not an ambulatory. yeah and you know like I like when I.

think of how my dad used to drink like. my dad would come home he would have a. vodka and then at one point he would. switch to Scotch I thought that was. normal I'm like you know when your dad. has two vodkas and then he switches and. so like there but he would wake up the. next morning be fine and I I kind of. look at Birth the same way it's like he. has a a stamina I mean some of it's for. show obviously but like he has a stamina. that is unusual he really is the machine. yeah he's gone.

unusual tolerance for alcohol yeah and. he's he's accustomed to feeling like. [ __ ] and recovering and he does a lot of. stuff like saunas and cold plunges and. he gets IVs and he does a lot of stuff. to try to mitigate the effects but yeah. he's going hard yeah. it's crazy. I'm jealous I'm jealous yeah you know I. have like yesterday was our anniversary. and went I had a glass of champagne with.

my wife and halfway through dinner I was. starting to get the headache I'm like. what the hell's happening to me I just. can't my body's like whoa whoa yeah when. I take time off of drinking like we do. sober October every year and then I'll. have a day when we go back we get [ __ ]. up and the next day I'm like I'm not. doing this anymore this is over and so. how is your drinking like all right so. on an average week how often. do you know like because alcohol is.

different from like consuming like. getting high in other ways because. alcohol seems kind of counter to The Joe. Rogan lifestyle thing of like or are you. sitting there going oh this this special. cumin and laced uh vodka zero calories. you know is there but is so how often. during the week do you get wasted well. because I own a club yeah because I'm in. my club all the time yeah I very rarely.

drink drink I'll have a drink right like. before a show like last night I had a. half of a drink we were Ron White was. there and he had his tequila and he was. pouring drinks for everybody so I had I. had a sip of his tequila I had a little. bit but when I smoked pot or you know or. anything else it's just no big deal like. the next day I feel fine it's not yeah. there's Total Recovery yeah it's not. wrecking me but all right so but you're. inhaling and now I sound like the.

Puritan you're inhaling your lungs yeah. but you're doing it in a way where it's. not damaging the lungs. um well it's probably not good for your. lungs to just inhale burnt plant fiber. yeah you know it's probably not good but. it doesn't show cancer on the levels. that like you see from people that are. cigarette smokers you also don't smoke. as much like you take a couple of hits. before a show it's not like you're. sitting there with a pack of cigarettes. and you're doing it every day right.

right it's different right or you're not. living next to a chemical plant and that. you know environmental fact you're like. working in a chemical plant like people. that have to work with chemicals like. that's [ __ ] horrible people paint. cars and [ __ ] like that like. that's rough like do you ever look at. the Europeans like the uh you know the. the way that like some of our foods have. um genetic modified thing and then yeah. and then the Europeans are like no we're. not going to do that I'm like are we.

doing it wrong we're definitely doing it. wrong and so like why isn't there. this Groundswell I mean outside of the. obvious thing of financial interests of. major corporations corrupting our. political system but like why is there. not kind of people saying this is insane. because of the financial issue it's it's. 100 because of that because they've. co-opted the media and they the media. doesn't report on all these things you.

know the media doesn't report on so many. things that are bad for you because it's. bad for their interests well let me ask. you this and we'll be right back to the. Jim Gaffigan show in a minute I'm here. with uh Joseph Reagan Rogan no let me. ask you this so all right so Sam bankman. freed just got off of all charges. that's totally not corrupt no by the way. he deserves to be free do you think he. doesn't go back to doing meth and. hanging out with that that little floozy.

in that house that you had with 40 other. people and banging each other. occasionally when he would when he would. be in court in a suit I would be like Ah. that's so cute he's got a suit on. it's kind of like you know a boy at a. bar mitz versus confirmation right it's. just like ah look at him in Minnesota. like a real man but all right let me ask. you this feds drop campaign. contributions charged against Sam. bankman freed but is that all his. charges about everything the other. charges that are still available or is.

he a free man now I think they said he. had to get a haircut which is really. weird okay Federal prosecutors are. dropping campaign Finance violation. charges against alleged crypto crook Sam. bankman freed over a legal snafu in his. extradition from the Bahamas to the U.S. still faces 12 other charges in the case. of five more of those counts are still. in question because they were added. after he was extradited. it seems to me one of the fix is in well. let me ask you this all right so a.

logical any comedian would look at that. and go all right so. somebody in the Justice Department was. like he donated a lot to our people. let's make this go away but here's. here's a question I have so. there is that uh there and there there. that level of corruption but do you look. at that level of corruption and see it. as equal to what.

Trump has been repeatedly busted as do. you see those as equal or do you see. like. um that as because you know like I I. wonder if like to me it's like. you know like like the indictments. against Trump I'm like it's gonna keep. going right they're gonna there's gonna. be more things whereas like this is. vague corruption I'm not justifying it. but like I feel like some people see.

this as totally equal you think both. sides are equally bad. is that you would have to go over the. case right because the way it's been. described to me and the way the CEO was. looking at it you're saying that this is. fraud this is like straight out fraud. it's financial fraud and they were. they were taking uh clients money and. using it in a way that they were not. supposed to they were funneling it off. to Almeida he was not being honest about. his connections to that I don't know all.

the absolute specifics of the case but. the way it's been described to me is. that there is not enough regulation in. cryptocurrency and that these people are. allowed to do some really shady [ __ ] and. that these people took it to the the to. the far end of this right and you know. they were making insane amounts of money. and they were doing amphetamines and. they were hanging out and having this. polyamorous lifestyle with these bunch. of super nerds but you shouldn't you.

shouldn't go to jail for that not yet. not for banging each other no I think. that's fun I'm happy that they get to. live like that like yeah socially. awkward weirdos all of a sudden they're. super rich if they were doing it above. ball above ground rather everything was. cool I would be celebrating them I'd be. like Yay look at these they won but a. lot of people lost a lot of money and. you know there was also they were they. were being exposed by competitors by. binance and then it turns out that.

binance is [ __ ] too and they're up. their ass with a microscope and they. might have all sorts of problems with. fraud and all sorts of other things that. are being lobbied against them or level. against them I don't know you know it's. it's a lot of complicated Financial. stuff that's outside of my realm of. understanding yeah it is interesting. because the basic premise again I know. nothing about crypto but isn't the basic. premise of crypto is like there's no.

regulations that's yeah this currency is. outside of it's not tied to the dollar. it's you know it's uh you know uh it's. there's an independence there whereas so. you can't compare that to Martha Stewart. going to jail for insider trading right. yeah I I mean the Martha Stewart thing. is interesting because. Congress does what she did all the time. that I mean they get access to.

information yeah they they play starting. the pandemic yeah tons of times I mean. and it's not just a Democrat thing. everybody points to Nancy Pelosi it's a. republican it's like literally 100 black. and white I mean excuse me red and blue. it's like across the board yeah they're. all doing it and it's just something. that I think everyone does that's there. they they understand like bills that are. going to be passed and then they. immediately start buying stocks and. they've always done that and it's one of. the reasons why they want to be. Congressman in the first place.

that's one of the reasons why they go in. uh with a certain income and leave. millionaires just not just millionaires. like insanely Rich hundreds of millions. of dollars for uh you know six figure. salaries. yeah look Nancy Pelosi is a better stock. Trader than both Warren Buffett and. George Soros. her her husband is uh an investment guy. yeah or he was an investment well he is. when he works with her right like she.

knows things he bets he you know he. places the the stock options and we. right. also I mean I remember like the all the. the Senators that pulled out right like. Richard Byrd and Kelly loffler and all. these guys right when the pandemic. uh and they they they they remove they. sold their stocks and then they said. everything's fine right so it's like. some of it is selling stocks it's not. necessarily even buying sure yeah but.

yeah but it's having information that. would allow you to make and not just an. educated guess but you know what's going. to happen you know what's going to. happen and you know that because of. these decisions that are being passed. that these companies are going to become. far more valuable because they've got. certain deals and then you bet on that. and that's what it is. it's it's inside of trading we all know. it is yeah it's it's you know there's. the corruption. but it's also like that because I have a.

19 year old daughter and. um she's amazing and she is not like if. if. if I brought up the idea of her pursuing. a career based on Financial Security she. would be offended and I and I say that. with a little bit of a joke because. I also remember like the comedians. people that go into comedy are not like. you know we didn't know it was going to. be this type of business we went into it.

because it was uh you know creatively. fulfilling to get on stage and make. strangers laugh and but like there is. something at least for me having five. kids it's like I really didn't care. about money. uh you know in my 30s. I remember my parents died and people. were pick you know like we all my. siblings came around we were getting. stuff and I was like I'll take the. immigration papers you guys can have the. rest and so like. I was the youngest but like the point.

I'm getting to as you get older. once you get a taste for Comfort. it's you know because I've tried to. articulate to my children you know money. is about Freedom you know it's like the. freedom to like afford to go on a date. you know the the freedom of Independence. like I don't have to ask mom and dad for. my help for help and so but there is a. you know the perspective that changes. I'm not saying all people but like when.

you're 20. all right do I have enough money to get. beer you know what I mean as opposed to. like when you're 40 you're like all. right I might need knee replacement. surgery do you know what I'm saying yeah. and like there is some. you know comforts you like Comfort right. you don't want to struggle right and you. don't want to be scared as to where your. next paycheck's coming from yeah I mean. I I fly you know commercial and I fly uh.

you know business class and it's amazing. and I don't you know like if I have a. gig and they're like you know I'd you. know I would have to. uh fly and Coach I don't know if I want. to do it. do you know I mean like I'm kind of a. you know it's like is it worth being. really uncomfortable for a bunch of. hours like I have like I live in New. York and I work at UH.

um the win has wins a great casino right. and they have this theater and it's a. great thing and. so there used to be all these direct. flights from New York. that I mean there's tons but there were. some live flat things and they were like. live flat yes so like were you you know. it's like the seat turns into a bed oh. lie flat and so from New York it's like. a five hour flight and so they. essentially started getting rid of those. things and I'm I don't know if I want to.

perform in Vegas anymore. baby. I fly don't do that anyway. I'm just trying to impress everyone with. my uh my toughness my mental grit baby. can't a baby can't be uncomfortable for. a couple hours you can definitely get. used to comfort yeah. yeah but it's probably not good for kids. to grow up that comfortable no it's. interesting you know it's like we all.

everyone that I know that's interesting. had a pretty shitty childhood and rough. and difficult and a lot of problems and. but none of those people want that for. their children even though it made them. the most interesting people that I know. because they got through some hard times. and difficult childhoods and struggle. and they developed discipline and. character and you know the ability to. overcome adversity I mean it is if.

parenting is terrifying it is it's. terrifying it's a complicated world. because you know you're gonna suck at it. but it's like how much damage can you do. yeah yeah and how much damage does the. world do yeah yeah it's not just you. it's like what are your children getting. exposed to at school what are your. children get exposed to on the streets. yeah because when they they reach a. certain age where like you can hear them. actively not listening to and you're. like oh I hope your peer group.

is communicating some of this stuff. because I've said it six times and. you're obviously not hearing it you know. I mean yeah it's really and it's when. you know when you have young kids you. think oh because I think our society we. kind of portray. you know babies Oh I couldn't sleep last. night my baby was crying I had to change. poopy diapers and that's the easy part. that's the easy yeah that's just lack of. sleep yeah. but like when it's Saturday night and. they're out and you're like what where.

are they all right going to parties it's. terrifying yeah and who knows what's. happening at these parties yeah and. again it's also. I mean there is you know. there has been you know again going back. to like these these teenage kids I would. say like. 13 to 19. I mean you know up you know. some of them missed. graduation from high school some you. know some of it was just a year some. people it was two years but it is.

social media it's like also you know you. know the generation of our comedians you. know we were I mean how many benefits. did you do about. legalizing pot decriminalizing pot let's. get rid of all these rules and then so. what happens in Manhattan is it's. decriminalized right so like every. Bodega. is selling weed.

but since it's decriminalized the police. are like we don't we got enough on our. hands so we're not and it's. decriminalized so when it's legal in New. York now well but here's here's what. happens is that like my barber opens a. weed shop everyone has a weed shop but. unlike La where it's it feels organized. in New York it's a little bit of the. Wild Wild West and so there's these two. stores. and again there's no supervision so one. store starts selling mushrooms you know.

kind of like discreetly some of them. starts you know they'll sell it to a kid. that's 13 whereas in LA and Colorado I. don't think that happens. and so as a result what's happening in. New York is that there's kids that like. are getting stuff that since it's not. regulated. they're getting stuff that's laced with. stuff. and so instead of smoking you know. spending your 16 your age of 16 years.

old smoking oregano for three months. these kids are smoking some of the most. powerful stuff that's laced with [ __ ]. and then there's kids that are like you. know there's kids jumping off buildings. the Army and the thing is is like it's. not talked about because it's it's you. know some of these wealthy parents. there's so much Shame about. I mean I have no idea I can't even. contemplate what it would be like but. like it's not in the news it's not like.

you know where I grew up in Indiana it's. like oh that town There's meth there you. know I mean it's not like that it's like. there's a cover-up like this kid was. going to go to this great college and he. got stoned off of uh vape pen that was. laced with you know. um you know whatever that stuff that. they get from China yeah and he jumped. off a building and the kid wasn't. suicidal the kid wasn't. a total [ __ ] up it was.

and so instead of that being in the news. the family's like you know it's it's. brutal and again it's it's very similar. to. uh you know just the Mental Health. crisis it's a tsunami what these kids. are in yeah there's a lot going on the. the fentanyl thing is a giant issue it's. it's killing a hundred thousand people. every year in this country fentanyl. overdoses young people and why is. I mean you know that's a lot of people.

it's a lot of people. and is is there all right so we now you. ever heard of how this is like in. response to the Opium Wars did you ever. hear about that that's in response to. the open Wars yes so like so you know. I've performed in China a couple times. now I'm never going to be able to. perform there after saying this but like. essentially. during the Opium Wars is like the. British were trying to take over China. and they were trying to trade and. essentially nothing was working.

so what they essentially did is they got. an entire generation of Chinese addicted. to opium. and they destabilized and then they. could take it over and so and the. British did a lot of nice things in. India and all over the world but. this is like one of the things that you. know among the expats in that were. performing stand up in China would tell. me about is that like oh yeah this. Fentanyl.

is all kind of like revenge for that and. that so they they make it they sell it. to the you know the cartels of Mexico. and it's just going to get in. but like so what is the because the the. question is what is the motivation. behind them doing this. is kind of like you hold a grudge you. know it's like you literally. you know this great nation that has you.

know. thousands year more history than most. Western countries. was essentially the British came in and. they drugged them and I can just see my. comments right now you know nothing you. know nothing. nothing and by the way I do know nothing. but this is what. it's it's an interesting explanation. right well the Opium War is a historical. fact yes yeah that's but like but like. that that's the reasoning behind.

Fentanyl. uh being kind of. sold to the cartels and why it's I think. it probably has a factor and I think. another factor is just financial. interest it's just so cheap right it's. so cheap they make the the precursors. they they bring them over to Mexico they. sell them to the cartels and they. produce Fentanyl and. United States has a massive appetite for. illegal drugs and it's also part of the. war on drugs because of the fact that's. illegal it's very difficult to get and.

you have to get it from criminals so it. pumps up the criminal so the the cartels. make insane amounts of money and they. have a business and bringing stuff. across the border into America. there's a there's also a financial. interest in the fact that fentanyl is. very cheap and it's very potent so you. don't need a lot of it and you can lace. things with fentanyl so when people are. buying like Street Xanax or Street MDMA. a lot of his laced a lot of his lace to. provide additional effects so that it's.

effective even though it's watered down. and cut down like the cocaine you know. they cut it and they add fentanyl to it. and a lot of people are dying from the. fentanyl that's insane it's insane I. mean. and we live through the the crack era. yeah crack was like. crack is like there's the the. devastating effects of it. and so it's nothing compared to Fentanyl. and math We Live Through Math yeah. you know Matt's really got to pick up.

their game well Adderall took their. their [ __ ] the throne. now everyone's on Adderall you can get. it from a doctor. it's it's oh here let me here's. something I would add so like energy and. I could just ask a girl and uh. um birth this but are they on like. um testosterone. Bert yeah yeah definitely. but you know like how is the how is that. how can I get that you can you go to a.

doctor and is it like do you want it. well I don't know I get you hooked up I. mean is it gonna I'm not gonna feel. whatever my family are you no no no no. no no all right. I don't want it. no but like energy wise yeah stamina. I've never been an energetic person I. know people are listening like no Jim. uses uh but yes so that would be um you.

would have more energy for sure I'd have. more energy sure your immune system. would work better everything would work. better so why isn't everyone just on it. well a lot of people are there's a lot. more people on I mean besides. Sylvester's displacement who else is. Robert Kennedy Jr oh really yeah he's on. it. so yeah he does seem like he's he's. really hit fit he's impressively fast. he's 69 yeah. yeah he works out every day goes to. Gold's Gym in Venice works out with. jeans on. is that why you talked like this no he.

talks like that because of an illness oh. yeah so I shouldn't make light of it. yeah look at him yeah he's buff that's. crazy he's oh my God 69 out there doing. push-ups and [ __ ] with jeans on I don't. know why the jeans on. that seems calculated. seems like they would get in the way I. think it's a youth thing yeah for the. jeans I would never look at him and. think he's 69. he's in great shape right. but he also takes very good care of. himself. eats right how important is the plunge. pool or is that just a trend is that.

Zumba for today no it's real it has. without a doubt it has great. physiological and mental benefits. I do it every day wow it sucks today was. hard because it was up late last night. hanging out at the club got home the. alarm clock went off and went [ __ ]. and it's it's like in a room no it's. outside. which is nice because it's hot out so at. least I got some sun on my face while my. body's freezing.

and it is just it's hard it's and how. long are you in three minutes. and but you get out and you're like this. is amazing you get out and immediately. you get this Rush of endorphins this. Rush of norepinephrine and dopamine and. it lasts for hours this is a 200 200. increase in dopamine that lasts for four. to six hours and it's not just like your. body's saying thank you for getting her. out of there it's uh that probably has. something to do with it yeah.

um it's cold shock proteins it's your. body responding to this imminent threat. of death so it produces these. anti-inflammatory proteins oh wow that's. really good for you and and not just and. it's great for your endocrine system it. increases your testosterone when you do. that and then work out right there's. studies that show that but it's great. for your mental health your your mental. a lot of people that have anxiety and. suffer from depression they've gotten. off meds because they've started doing. daily cold plunges yeah yeah I would.

totally be open as long as it wasn't. cold yeah it's a [ __ ] struggle man. but you know but it's only three minutes. the thing is it's like three minutes. passes in normal time so easy when. you're comfortable right now like we can. go through three minutes and it's. nothing you just gotta just go through. it just go through the three minutes. it's only three minutes it sucks but. while it sucks you just deal with it you. just breathe and deal with it and then. after three minutes you get out and. immediately you feel amazing like. wow like if there was a drug that you.

could take that gives you the feeling. that you get right out of the cold. plunge it would be insanely popular if. there was like a mint that you could pop. in your mouth that you get from a. [ __ ] gas station everybody would be. taking it you know all these kids are on. vape pens because they get a little oh. they get a little light-headed and get a. little high you would take that pill the. the post cold plunge pill every day. you'd feel great it would be great for. everybody but it's not a pill it's a. [ __ ] arduous difficult routine it. sucks this. but it's only three minutes it's not.

that big a deal just get in there [ __ ]. [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] say [ __ ]. you know 360 times right take a bunch of. breaths. and it's and so yeah yeah but that you. know then you got to get an ice maker. sauna is great for you too well you. don't have to get an ice maker you get. one of these machines it just keeps it. cold all the time oh wow yeah they have. these cold plunge machines like we have. one here it's called a blue cube we have. one at home it's called The marasco. Forge and it's 34 degrees the water is.

just above freezing you get in there and. you just [ __ ] suffer for three. minutes and you feel great wow all aches. and pains and everything that sort of. feels better and so some of it is. physical and some of it is you know the. physical that leads to mental. you know so you feel you know because I. I'm sure that I speak for you also it's. like I feel mentally balanced after I do. stand up like the it's not just a high. it's not a low it's like if I'm really.

high before I do a set I'm kind of even. kill if I'm kind of exhausted it gives. me a boost there's. and so when I you know think about like. uh things that are like for mental. health and you know for me it sounds. kind of corny but I have I during the. pandemic I started gardening and it is. amazing. it sounds and I know I'm you know trying. people are like my grandma Gardens but.

it is. I mean some of it is I wanted to be a. farmer I you know when I was in eighth. grade but like the farmers are happy. like there's something about their about. the meditative nature. there's also you plant something and you. come out and there's. you sometimes there's a huge amount of. peppers it's like Christmas morning and. sometimes it's a disaster but it's. it's amazing it's a complicated task. yeah interesting yeah it it engages you.

and it's yeah and there is something. about because I see the you know. that the happiest people are farmers and. I'm like that makes perfect sense oh is. that real the happiest people. performance I would imagine that. providing people with food also feels. good being a provider and just the the. whole I think there's probably like a. genetic component to it there's a long. history of human beings farming and so I. think there's also like built-in human.

reward systems based on certain behavior. that you know leads to success and. survival and I would imagine that. farming is on that list yeah I think. it's uh. it's it's very it's just amazing it's. just cool anyway yeah you plant some. seeds you see this right grow up it's. cool it's amazing I mean just and all. the different plants and what you do to. help the plant and I mean it's just. insane and it's a great way to get food.

and it and it encourages you to eat. healthier yeah because if you grow. something you're like we're gonna eat. this celery right it's like besides that. time I've never eaten salad. I mean it's also you know there's no. pesticides on it there's no herbicides. you're just getting organic vegetables. and then it's like this math puzzle. where you sit there and you go all right. so you do the companion plants and you. know this deters this Pest and so. all the answers are there it's like we.

just kind of. like I think even like celery as an. example like there's no reason why. someone. like if you you can grow your own celery. you should never have to buy celery like. if you chop it off and and come back. it'll grow back so like the fact that. like we go and buy a huge thing of. celery is so foreign to like. our great grandparents right like you. would never buy celery you could just.

easily grow it my grandparents in New. Jersey my grandfather had a big Garden. in his backyard this most of his. backyard was fenced in and he was. growing tomato plants and squash and. zucchini and all these different things. and my grandmother always made tomato. sauce from the tomatoes from my. grandfather's garden and it was amazing. yeah just the tomatoes themselves those. New Jersey beef steak tomatoes they're. all organic and they they were like a. fruit it was so much different than the. pale Supermarket tomatoes that last for.

months on the Shelf those things are. bastardized it's crazy like heirloom. tomatoes that's what a tomato is. supposed to be like those delicious. sweet succulent Tomatoes yeah and you're. like this is actually good yeah I could. see eating it's like even kale you know. I have material on kale and I've I've. grown kale and I'm like all right you. know this is better than the you know. because of course the time I had kill. 10 or 15 years ago it was just bitter it.

was probably old kale you know what I. mean that it bolted or whatever. so well kale has a lot of oxalates in it. so I used to drink. um kale smoothies every morning and then. I started reading up on kidney stones. and problems with oxalates when you eat. raw vegetables and like high quantities. there's a lot of people that drink a lot. of those veggie shakes in the morning. with ground up vegetables that wind up. getting problems with oxalates they say.

yeah they say it's actually for some. vegetables it's actually better to cook. them really yeah I isn't celery supposed. to. decrease inflammation celery is supposed. to clean you out there's like properties. and celery that are supposed to be. really good for Digestive issues and to. clean you out celery juice is great it's. it's a good thing in the morning too it. kind of gets gets your whole [ __ ]. bowel system moving yeah you know and so. do you have one cheat day because you.

know we've talked about Italian food. that this you know that's my [ __ ]. Batteries Plus Italian food and Mexican. food those are my those are my vibes and. is it once a week or is it. yeah once a week I'll have something. every now and again depends like we were. in the Bronx. I was in New York a couple weeks ago and. we went to this uh sandwich shop in the. Bronx GNR Deli we had these massive. Italian subs it was [ __ ] incredible. and I'm like when I'm eating that I'm. not thinking at all about health it's. out it's Manja you know it's like.

hanging out with uh these wild Italians. eating their [ __ ] incredible food and. do you feel the consequences of you know. eating bread when you don't normally. come on look at that oh wow that's the. spot what I felt like afterwards yeah I. felt like I ate a brick yeah. but it was so good you know I just think. there's also pleasure in food that I. really enjoy and that's one of the. things that I really enjoy about Italian. food I really enjoy about Mexican food I.

just love the pleasure of eating these. delicious meals and I know they're not. good for you you know if I'm eating. linguine with clams I'm under No. Illusion that I'm eating health food. it is fascinating how different cultures. excel at cooking right so like. the Italians amazing but like right. above Italy is Austria I'm not saying. Austria has horrible food but like you. know you know I've been to Vienna I did.

a show there it's like you get deep. fried you know uh whatever that dish is. but like. some of it is like the the. you know you go to Mexico it's like. that's the home of you know the the. people of the Sun and all those fruits. and peppers and there's a pepper for. every kind of State in Mexico and some. of it is geography but some of it is. just like they're they really care yeah. right and they've taken the time to. figure out how to eat good stuff eating.

good stuff and being together with the. family when you all sit around and enjoy. a great meal together there's a there's. a lot to that there's a lot to I mean. eating like boring healthy food and just. sitting around not enjoying it there's. no benefit to that other than health but. the benefit when you're eating delicious. food you're having a glass of wine and. yeah you know a great lasagna it's like. ah yeah uh this is enjoyment this is.

like a celebration of life and of. pleasure yeah there's something to that. for sure it is I mean why is like so. Thailand the food's amazing amazing yeah. amazing like you you never hear someone. go you know what we got to get this low. Asian food I mean it's right there. dude I mean it's like but some of that's. the influence of you know the spices. that are probably in Thailand you know. but I don't know yeah it's history it's.

a history of great chefs and great. Cuisine you know and it's there's pride. in that history and it's passed down. from generation to generation there's. that too there's a lot you know but the. celebration of food and of eating it's. it's you know it's an art form food is. an art form and chefs are artists and. when you have a great meal you're not. just consuming nutrients you're also. like taking in this flavor art yeah yeah. so I eat mostly healthy but if I'm going.

to go to you know Los Angeles and I'm. you know I'm only there for one night. and uh I have a chance to go to a great. Italian restaurant yeah. so like if you get if you have some. drinks. during the week or whatever is is but. you have the willpower because isn't. that the problem is that you make the. bad decisions it's also when you eat and. then you keep going then you go out for.

burgers at two o'clock in the morning. yeah yeah you definitely can do that. it's the most important thing is like. what is the majority of your diet and. the majority of your time is the. majority of your time spent doing. healthy activities and being physically. fit and eating right and taking vitamins. and doing the sauna the cold plunge and. all this other stuff or as the majority. of your time spent eating burgers and. cheese and [ __ ] drinking beer and. [ __ ] off then you're gonna have.

negative consequences I think as long as. the absolute majority of your time is. spent doing healthy things then you just. enjoy yourself on these one like the. rock as like this cheat day he does. everything it's legendary yeah he takes. photos and videos of it a giant stacks. of pancakes. for chefs. huge trays of sushi yeah but you know. obviously you look at him he's doing. something right he's very lean he's very. healthy and he just has one day where he. goes off the rails and that is like for.

him it's like a mental health break from. the rigor of just sheer discipline that. he exhibits every day you know getting. up in the morning hours of cardio and. weight lifting and all this stuff that. he does so then the one day he just goes. ham right I think there's nothing wrong. with that and I think your body can. absolutely recover from that your body. knows what to do with that it just burns. through all that [ __ ] and then you're. back on the grind the next day and so. when you consider so you're a bit you.

enjoy being busy right you enjoy you. know you're you know I mean you've got a. lot of hats right and some of that is uh. you know I'm I feel like in some ways. I'm very similar I love stand up I love. acting I love doing different things. obviously my family is kind of important. you know I mean but like. the do you ever have a moment where like. you you look at the Mania and that and. that's kind of unfair to characterize it.

as Mania but the pacing so like even. last night I was talking to my wife I'm. like yeah I got to get up at four so I. can get on this flight to go to us and. she's like why do you why do you why do. you need to do that why do you need to. like and I'm like because it's a. terrific opportunity and you know some. of it is like you know I have this new. special and it's like. you know when we started stand up. you know there was it was a different. world but like this.

the this process of. stand up is so rewarding but like. do you ever have a perspective where. you're like what am I doing. do you know what I'm saying maybe I'm. not making a sense I know what you're. saying but it's just like you're. overwhelmed why 10 specials why why. um because it's fulfilling the work is. gratifying in itself the journey is the. thing that's important but is there. something of.

you know also you know you don't want to. not take advantage of an opportunity. right you know what I mean and I also. know that like coming up for coming up. with a new line or a new topic even for. jokes is so rewarding and it's it feeds. itself but like do you ever look at the. pace of. your life and think why am I going so. hard. occasionally yeah but not most of the. time most of the time I'm enjoying it. because most of the time it is fun it's.

way better to be busy doing something. you love than to wish you were busy I'm. doing something yeah and also having. gone through decades. of of. not having the opportunity to do what. you love yeah or doing it under certain. uh parameters yeah and you know really. struggling yeah and not not being. financially secure not knowing when you. will be not knowing if you ever will be. right and then you know getting. recognition for it becoming famous for.

it having a great fan base like you have. and now you get to tour you go ladies. and gentlemen Jim Gaffigan yeah yeah no. it's amazing and then you get to provide. these people with an amazing experience. of fun and joy and laughter and they. walk out of there oh and he's talking. about that yeah and they're driving home. laughing about it it's amazing it's an. amazing job it's an amazing job it's. incredible it's the best yeah it's the. best and you know and having a club now.

and being able to do it in town like I. could I do six hours of stand up a week. two shows on Tuesday two shows on. Wednesday two shows on Thursday I do it. all the time but for me it's a balance. because then like on the weekend I can. work if I want to or I can just hang out. with my family I can be at home I can. get stuff done I can just relax I I get. all the work that I need to do in but I. also you know and like podcasting for me. is. I want to say it's easy but it's it's. the easiest it's the it's fun it's.

you're having conversations with people. you're you're having conversations so. you're getting the Fulfillment because. you're talking to friends you're talking. to peers you're talking to people that. you're seeing develop their careers in. MMA and then you're also talking to. Fascinating People that you're curious. about yes I mean that's what was that's. how brilliant you've curated this too. it's not like I gotta talk to. someone I'm not interested in right that. would never that's the key I think to to.

podcast success only talk to people that. you want to talk to only like I book it. all myself I don't have anyone who tells. me who has to be on that never happens. and I'm even reluctant when people are. like you should get this person on I'm. like. now I don't really want to. well by the way that that's very common. um there's like movies like that I've. wanted I'm like I want to meet that. director and they'll be like.

well you should find a way because if an. agent proposes someone that that. director is not interested in that uh. yeah I'm like oh wow when they feel like. they're being pushed yeah yeah. especially artists when they have like. Vision they have an idea of a thing and. they're trying to put it together in. their head and trying to plan it all out. and then someone's like you should do. this you should be like. that's the last thing I want to do now. now you [ __ ] with my vision and I. think that you know that's some of.

you know not getting caught up in other. people's expectations is. that's that's like the lesson that I. personally have to keep. relearning not like from scratch but. it's like I guess I would call it like a. relapse where I'm like oh wait a minute. I only did this because they told me to. do it and I didn't even want to do this. do I mean whereas. you know when I was in my late 20s I'd. be like what do I do yeah I mean should.

I do that okay I'll do that you know. yeah and. you know often when you follow your own. path. uh you know and you're doing things you. really care about then it's then it's. not work it's not work it's enjoyment. yeah it's just it's difficult like you. have to work you have to do some work. like with stand up you have to write you. have to perform you have to really think. about it you have to edit your act and. put it together but it's still enjoyable. it's fun yeah it's not I mean there's a. giant percentage of our population that.

does things they don't want to do all. day every day and that's one of the. reasons why people drink so much they. come home and they just want a break. like they just don't want to be there. anymore they want to change their state. yeah yeah yeah. yeah they're escaping brutal yeah I mean. that is the life that a lot of people. choose when they choose security they. choose some like oh if I do this I can. make that and I do this then I can buy a. house and I would do that I could buy a. boat I'd do this then I could get that. and they're all day long watching that.

clock wanting to get the [ __ ] out of. there and then they get out of there. they go home and just oh give me a drink. and your family's complaining and the. wife is pissed because the gardener. [ __ ] something up and just like give me. a pocket yeah. ah and then you just sit there watching. TV and yelling at Fox News yeah and then. and I and there is something about I. mean I don't think we even there's. probably people that understand this but. like. this outrage machine.

is it serves such a purpose and I'm. talking about both sides like you know. [ __ ] Trump [ __ ] Biden there is. like this. there is this thing that like it serves. something in us that is probably not. healthy definitely not healthy right and. it's it's certainly not constructive. you know what I mean like I feel as.

though. you know with comedians we are so used. to being around and I but we're so used. to being around people of different. points of view and different. sensibilities that we grow to love that. it's not completely foreign. to like I remember at Fourth of July I. had a friend that was like at Occupy. Wall Street and then I had a friend who. works at Fox News and they were there. and they've known each other for 30.

years and it was nothing. it was it was not an issue it was. interesting I mean I was asking them. questions you know I'm like all right so. what's going on here yeah and uh but. there is something maybe it's because. comedians are Misfits because I say that. also and I sometimes think like. sometimes people in the entertainment. industry are like you know my business. is so weird when the reality is. you know in a bank in you know in a.

construction site there's people of. dramatically different opinions too and. they gotta go along to get along right. yeah but I don't know well people like. being in opposition of other people and. they like thinking that those people on. that other side are keeping them from. living the dream or keeping you know. this country from being great or keeping. you know people from prospering and. keeping democracy alive and if we don't. defeat them we're [ __ ] and they like. having this like wild cause and there's.

some validity to it I mean there's a lot. of real challenging issues in this. country like a real dangerous scary. issues and there's a lot of financial. interests that are tied up in these. dangerous scary issues and they will. avoid Solutions because they're. profiting off of the problem itself wow. there's a lot of that going on yeah I. mean that's a lot of the homeless. problems that's a lot of there's a lot. of issues in this country that you could. pick one side or another and just decide. the other those people are the problem. it's insanely complicated it's insanely.

interwoven and complex and you know to. just. to. you know reduce it down to the right. versus the left and we're the good guys. and they're the bad guys it's like. it's that's such a stupid perspective. and you're being played you're being. played by the media you're being played. by politicians you know it's like a. manufactured outrage recreational. outrage and it's just a giant. distraction it's constantly going on and. then there's UFOs yeah why is it that.

the UFO thing. comes up every couple months of really. there's UFOs and then. uh like a half hour later people like. did you see the new Colts uniform yeah. like we're so easily distracted by. really unimportant things from like. stuff that. you know is is the theme of every sci-fi. movie right is we're so you know like.

the you know the aliens thing in the. pandemic they're like well here's the. aliens info and people like that's. unbelievable did you see what Trump said. to that female reporter you mean like we. are so easily distracted yeah. by. but I mean I don't think it's a. conspiracy necessarily I think it's just. that human beings are just. like goldfish I think we forget for sure. oh that's right we definitely are but. then there's also people that take.

advantage of that and I think there's. definitely calculated news releases and. leaks that they put out to distract us. from other complicated things that are. also going on simultaneously the. fascinating thing about the UFO thing is. because if this had happened in like the. 1980s it would be front page of every. newspaper everyone would be talking. about it at work everyone we talk about. on the street like oh my God they had. Congressional hearings where they said. we've recovered multiple crashed. vehicles from other planets we have. alien biological entities that are in.

freezers that they have right now the. government has been doing this for 80. years and keeping it secret there's a. crash retrieval program there's a back. engineering program this is all in the. Congressional hearings yesterday and. everybody's like yeah whatever but Elon. Musk changed it to an act why is it an X. well he's a Nazi well here's what I. don't understand like because you you. talk to him you're probably friendly. with him but like I'm he reminds me of a.

comedian he reminds me of like the. comedian that that because there's the. comedians where they're like they'll be. like hey do us a favor whatever you do. don't bring up that person with the blue. shirt and the comedian's like I'm. bringing a peppers with the blue he is. that like the X thing and I haven't done. a deep dive I know people are upset. about it and. and but I'm sitting there and I know. that people are like. but my takeaway is like. oh he's that that's.

he's just doing that for fun right yeah. that's just him like. all right the Russians did a z on their. trucks what could I do on Twitter that. would freak people out and that's kind. of. or is it a distraction. all right here's my conspiracy my. conspiracy is. Twitter threads is uh you know it's. still in development but like Twitter is.

really struggling right let's say it's. true financially yeah how do you. distract from that. you either how do you make the a new. account you introduce a new Conversation. Piece so like if you're if you're gonna. be likely which comedians you know point. of view you know wouldn't you sit there. and go maybe of what is the reason for. the X well he hasn't except for us. talking about he loves the the letter X. okay SpaceX his kid's name x uh the I.

think the original company that he. developed with PayPal was X like he's. he's got an affinity for that letter. for whatever reason he you know he's. he's a super nerd he he he likes like. like he made the shape of the rocket. different because he likes the movie. Spaceballs right yeah I mean that's why. he goes he put a Tesla in yeah. there's that but then there's also.

the the knowledge I mean I have a 17. year old son who I know says things to. push buttons oh yeah and so he's a. little bit like you know. I'm going to do this. and it's going to make some people upset. right yeah it's part in a way it's part. of the outrage machine sure it's like I. gotta feed the outrage machine well it's. a fun thing for a kid too to [ __ ] with. you say something to your dad feel some.

power yeah yeah right just put a little. push hey Dad you ever think that maybe. you're wrong hey hey Dad yeah you think. that maybe the other side is on the. right path and you're you're the enemy. of History yes yes. and you know I've got five kids with. five different opinions and it's just. it's crazy how different their opinions. are isn't it there is out of the box. same house. there is no. I mean just once a social justice. Warrior one's like all right I gotta.

make sure he doesn't turn into a troll. yeah. one who's a terrific athlete one who's. like either gonna be a fashion designer. or a serial killer it's just. bananas but you know you know there is. part of me as a comedian I'm like you. know what you don't want the easy life. because the easy life it's hard to come. up with material you want to live in. chaos right. well you know you want a life with.

problems that are solvable yeah you. don't want problems that are. insurmountable like you live in a. war-torn country and there's no food. those are horrible problems but you want. problems like I'm in a difficult. occupation there's a lot of competition. it's fascinating and intellectually. challenging but I have to be on my. [ __ ] game and I have to get up and I. have to put in the work and the more. work I put in the better the results. will be that's what you want and you. want that feeling of satisfaction I. think human beings we require. complex problem solving we require.

things that we have to accomplish and do. in order to feel good like we've got. some we've made some Headway made some. ground we made some progress we're doing. the right thing there's like a built-in. thing that I think that's from our. Evolution and our development that we. had to develop the proper tools and. figure out how to hunt and gather and. all those different things there's a lot. to that there's a lot to that that it's. like it's it's wired into the psychology. of being a human being the most. miserable people I know have nothing to. do they're they're bored and lazy and.

they're sedentary and they distract. themselves with drugs and alcohol and. whatever and pharmaceuticals and those. are the people that are struggling the. most because they don't struggle with. the thing that they do where there's. this thing that they have to be on top. of they have to be focused and and. really dedicated to it and then you see. the results of those whether you're. working in a team an office that's. trying to accomplish a goal and you get. it you're like yeah and then everybody. can go out and celebrate there's a real. feeling of accomplishment when you do. something when you don't do anything.

anything at all I just think people get. really depressed I think it's really bad. for you to not do anything yeah yeah. it's well that's also like you know the. success can kind of [ __ ] people right. right you get soft all right let me ask. you this okay. what are the chances of Biden and Trump. being the nominees I think the chance of. trump is very high I think the chance of. Biden is. entirely dependent on whether or not. they can do something to turn his health.

around because it seems like his mental. health is deteriorating so rapidly and. so publicly that it's a narrative now. and it's an inescapable narrative he. just said they cured cancer the other. day did you see that yeah I mean I. didn't I mean he just says things and he. doesn't know what he's saying he clearly. is compromised mentally was something. wrong there is something about the age. of everyone yeah you probably saw the. Mitch McConnell thing amazing Dianne. Feinstein you know he just rebooted for.

everybody you know like the uh Chuck. Grassley there is and I tried to write. about this but it's it's also like our. perception of it because part of you is. like okay Mick Jagger is 80. he's. killing it he's probably you know he's. probably got two more wives in him yeah. I mean and then you got you got Harrison. Ford yeah did uh Raiders of the Lost Ark.

I saw the movie brought it with my kids. it's an action movie he's still an. action star age of 80. Jane Fonda Lily. Tomlin kicking ass they're in their 80s. yeah and then you sit there and you look. at you know Nancy Pelosi was 84. yeah. you know uh Diane finds that you know. it's like well Feinstein's compromise. they they actually hid that she's. compromised it's like all this yeah and. then also like Ruth Bader Ginsburg you. know should have. should have left yeah right earlier yeah.

but like he could have left during the. Obama Administration and they would have. gotten a liberal judge yeah but he. personally gets confused in Senate. Appropriations hearings and has to be. prodded to vote oh boy yeah yeah it's. not fair it's not fair to the. constituents it's not fair but when I. was here when I was a kid I didn't you. know the understanding uh you know I'm. in my 50s I know I look like I'm 60. you. look great oh thanks no but like. when I was growing up people turned 65.

they retired and they either went to. Florida or Arizona and they retired or. or they you know got a different kind of. job and but like they kind of. disappeared then they went to the blue. plates uh they they dyed their hair blue. and then they started sending their kids. two bucks in a birthday card. even know 80 year olds existed. I mean now there's so many 80 year olds. like there used to be like people that.

were 65 that moved to Florida and then. there was like Willard Scott would. announce one or two hundred-year-olds. right right but there was no 80 year old. there was not a I mean the 80 year olds. are everywhere they're taking I think. the 80 year olds are multiplying. well there's better medicine and health. now you know people are way better at. nutrition and taking care of themselves. they have good doctors and they're. getting the right supplements and you.

know they can live longer people are. going to live a lot longer I think. within our lifetime we're going to see. people that live to be 150 years old I. think that's a fact I mean when we were. kids. Reagan was President yeah he was. probably 72 or something like that and. people were like he's you know yeah you. know it's like he would be a spring. chicken now yeah I couldn't he would be. like lifting weights with RFK yeah. that's three years old in rfkg yeah.

right look at him at 69 that's nuts it's. amazing yeah when you see guys like uh. well well Biden is a particularly bad. example because he's also had two brain. surgeries he had you know like a serious. brain surgery where they literally. removed the top of your skull and deal. with aneurysms like he's got real. problems and they know it but they also. know that he's the president of the. United States and they can't address. that or they'll lose power and they also. know that he's stated that he wants to.

run again whether they can talk him out. of that or whether he decides not to do. that or whether some the health. complications get more severe like you. don't get better when you get 80. and. you're in most insane high pressure did. you see the movie Cocoon I mean they. but here's the thing that you know I. think that. there you know the the the Biden thing. is uh you know I'm probably on the other.

side of this but like I view Biden as. like. you know his foot and mouth disease has. disappeared so in other words he used to. say stuff like even when he was with. Obama yeah they would be like we got to. get a Biden out of here right and I. don't think he does that and some of it. is mean you don't think he does he does. it all the time well I mean you know but. but now they're calling them senior. moments but like before he used to be. like uh he would say things and people. were like ixnay on the Talking Bible.

Well when you're a liar and an idiot as. a young man so you're pro-biden I'm. joking yeah well he's clearly a liar I. mean there's there's videos of him lying. when he was younger about his his. education record and you know he he. lifted the coal miner speech from the. guy yeah well we used to do Joe Biden. night at stitches in Boston in the 80s. because when he was running for. president in 1988 he got caught. plagiarizing yeah a whole speech so when. not just one I think it was more than.

one oh really and then and also I think. there was some other evidence of. plagiarism in his past so we used to do. a night at stitches where like you would. do my ACT I would do your act we would. do it would go up and do our friend's ax. oh wow yeah it was Joe Biden Knight no. way yeah and this is in 1988. but I. don't know maybe this all right this is. what I think I think that. if Trump I think that. I think that. if Trump goes away I think Biden's going.

to go see ya you guys take over that's. what I naively Trump's not going to go. away I mean they would have to put him. in jail and it doesn't seem like they're. able to do that the the what are the. charges now what are like the most. egregious most difficult to defend. charges. uh because there's the uh the top secret. document stuff but the problem with that. is Biden has multiple instances of these. top secret documents yeah you know yeah. had been his [ __ ] Corvette in his.

garage like there's a couple cases. according to the political criminal. cases definitive Guide to the key. players and legal risks in the four. criminal probes of Donald Trump so over. 234 years nation's history no American. president former president was indicted. that changed in March of 2023. charged with 34 felony counts in. connection with hush money payments to a. porn star. see that one's a weird one. um. because it's like that's not a big deal.

well that's that's you know hush money. payments I mean I don't know if our. wives would agree no definitely it's. it's not like moral but it is but yeah. that's like you know in the era of JFK. that would be like how dare you bring. that up yeah so um 37 felony counts are. mishandling classified documents and. impending investigations now what I've. heard about this is the these accounts. are inflated so there there's a bunch of. counts but they multiply those accounts.

based on the amount of documents and. things so it becomes all these different. counts uh I'm talking on my ass here. some of it is like but that's so two. other ongoing criminal probes both. related to 2020 election interference. those are serious yeah. January 6th thing is. pretty bad well the January 6th thing is. bad but also the intelligence agencies. were involved in provoking people to go. into the Capitol building that's a fact. do you so wait a minute you're you're.

saying that that guy. what's his name Ray Epps yeah you really. think that he I don't know I don't know. but I do know that every other parent I. think he's gonna Sue Fox I think every. other person who was involved in January. 6 who was involved in coordinating uh a. break-in into the capital and. instigating people breaking they were. all arrested this guy wasn't not only. that they were defending him in the New. York Times The Washington Post those. different things because saying that Fox. News is unjustly accused him of.

instigating well he clearly instigated. he did it on the camera I don't know if. he was a Fed I know a lot of people. think he was ahead the people that were. there were calling him a Fed what I do. know is when they asked the FBI the FBI. said we can't tell you whether or not. there were people that were there that. were doing that now there's been reports. that there's hundreds of agents that. were there that were doing that I don't. know if that's true either but I do know. that they do use Asian provocateur doors.

to disrupt peaceful protests it's a. common tactic what they do is say if. there's a um like the World Trade. Organization is a great example and that. was in I think the 90s in Seattle and so. what they did was they were protesting. the World Trade Organization they were. doing it peacefully it was a big problem. so what they did is they sent in. allegedly agent provocateurs they. started smashing buildings and lighting. things on fire now it's not a peaceful. protest now they can bring in the police.

now they can start arresting people and. then they created a no protest Zone. where literally if you had a pin on your. jacket that was the WTO with a red line. through it they would not let you cross. you could not cross with a pin that was. against the WTO and and go to work there. was a no protest zone so they they. silenced protest which is a part of our. freedom of speech so this is a tactic. that some government agencies use. all right so what you're saying is on. January 6th.

that uh this event that obviously. Trump organized forget about the. Giuliani stuff and the uh you know. whether they thought that it was he. definitely encouraged people to protest. yes but all right so you're saying that. like. the the FBI and Nancy Pelosi and and I'm. not saying Nancy no but like you're. saying that like they're like you know. we'll make this uh instead of uh an.

awkward protest. will encourage it so that it'll be it'll. backfire on Trump rather than being this. rising of people that uh believe that. there was election corruption I think. it's certainly I think that would be. hard you think it's possible I think. it's possible you don't think it's wait. a minute you think it's hard to do I. think that you know that the FBI or the. CIA saying hey you know Trump lost this.

a lot because here's what you're kind of. implying Trump lost the election. he is such a an amazing communicator and. he's convinced this loyal base that. there was election interference. we don't want them to protest how we can. end this. is if we encourage people to go beyond. protesting to essentially go into the.

capital and take a [ __ ] in the hallway I. mean I'm exaggerating a little bit Yeah. but like I don't see why that would be. of Youth like I'm more suspicious why. Trump didn't call for backup when you. know or you know for uh the for the. capital police you know I mean it's like. there was and that like Michael Flynn's. brother was you know I mean like there's.

there's way more conspiracy stuff. against. Trump and you know then I think the the. slim likelihood that. people were like oh Trump's a problem. let's just get these people that are. loyal to Trump to run into the capital. so that we can arrest 300 people does. that make sense no. no it doesn't make sense no I think it's. a standard tactic especially when. someone is the enemy of the intelligence.

agencies with Trump that's absolutely. the case Trump set himself up against. the intelligence agencies he did it. openly and he did it brazenly and a lot. of people think it's very dangerous like. the intelligence agencies are very. important you know you want to find out. what's going on in other countries you. want to find out what the threats to. America are you want to find out what. terrorist activities are going to be. taking place and stop them before you. know JFK he had his problem with the. intelligence Yeah well yeah I mean look. it's unchecked power right it's that's.

the Deep State it's unchecked power and. I think Trump was very open about his. disdain for the intelligence agencies he. created enemies in the intelligence. agencies it's standard for intelligence. agencies in this country to encourage. Asian provocators or to employ agent. provocative and so you're saying when he. was in Helsinki and he was saying I. believe Putin more than my intelligence. can be Unity that was something the. intelligence Community was like we're. going to get them well I think they were.

going to get him in any way that they. could because he's an enemy of the. intelligence agencies and he was openly. talking about them being incompetent and. being corrupt and he you know he fired. Comey and you know he was against the. FBI and you look it's a very dangerous. thing you talk to people that are. intelligence agencies like it's a very. dangerous thing for a president to be at. war with the intelligence agencies and. to do it so publicly and I think it's.

with without a doubt when you have a. gigantic massive protest that a lot of. people think is a threat to democracy of. these people that are saying the. election was rigged and they're on the. capital law and they're screaming and. yelling. I don't think it's outside the realm of. possibility that they would encourage. people to do things that were unlawful. instead of peacefully protesting which. is what everybody was doing on the. outside which is totally legal to take. that and escalate it to entering into. the capital now you can lock things down.

and now you have real clear evidence. that this President is responsible for. this Insurrection attempt and this is. dangerous this is a threat to our. democracy and he's never going to be. president again we're going to indict. him we're going to go after him we're. going to do all these different things I. think it's not it's not like it's. there's a lot of shenanigans going on on. both sides it's not like a clear-cut. like he shouldn't have done that and. they should have done this it's like. there's a lot of [ __ ] and there's a. lot that's been going on.

throughout history whenever people have. unchecked power and unchecked influence. and they have enemies and Trump was. their enemy yeah but I just. and I'm not saying that there isn't uh. you know you know it's kind of like did. you see the hearings when when they were. grilling the fbis to whether or not they. had intelligence agencies there. yeah it's crazy because instead of. saying no we don't do that that's. illegal they said we can't answer that.

yeah but I think even you know and and. again I'm not saying that there isn't. corruption on both sides but like in the. end for me personally it's like when. people complain about Biden's you know. uh age or his cognitive decline or. whatever I'm like the alternative to me. is not acceptable it's the alternative. being Donald Trump yes and what's what's. least acceptable about that as opposed. to Hunter Biden and and Joe Biden and.

all the corruption that we know for sure. well I think look you know Joe Biden's. relationship with his son or uh you know. who obviously struggles with addiction I. mean look half of our friends struggle. with addiction it's like you know he's a. compassionate father is there some of. that like. um some you know uh let's make some. money with uh our influence uh after. after we left office or yeah.

we're a senator or stuff like that is. there some of that yeah it seems like. there's a lot of that but compared to. Trump compared to like Jared getting a. two billion dollar contract compared to. like. um. you know like even the documents like. the the documents that like Biden had or. or uh Pence had uh versus like Trump.

literally showing the documents some of. them being of I think we're gonna find. out being really inconsequential I'm not. saying he was selling them I'm not. saying I don't know if he was you know. it was like a big swinging dick move I. think that's different than. um you know Pence having some documents. in his house that he shouldn't have. um but you mean Pence are Biden I'm. Pence had documents I think anybody. who's really concentrating on Pence but.

like I by the way I I do want to make. clear that I do have the approach of. like I could find something out and be. like all right but like there is part of. me that's like it's very little doubt in. my mind that. that Trump is the the most corrupt and. uh you know. you know was you know like just the the. uh. you know it's not you know like Andrew.

Jackson was like uh you know did. horrible things but like I don't. begrudge someone having kind of like. kick ass and take PR take no prisoners. kind of attitude it's you know it's not. the style it's just I think that there's. repeated corruption I mean like I just. repeated corruption with the body. Administration the the the corruption. with his son first of all his son's. struggling with addiction that's not my. concern I mean I I it sucks it sucks. when if you have a kid that's a that's.

hooked on crack and a [ __ ] complete. disaster and he pulls himself out of it. congratulations for him that's not what. I it's the corruption it's the the clear. influence by Foreign agents you don't. think Trump has more corruption I don't. think there's evidence the same way. there's evidence right now because of. the laptop and because of the recorded. conversations There's real evidence that. they were getting money from other. countries what about Trump University. what about oh yeah no no. I'm not saying that he's clean I'm not.

saying that he's clean but I'm saying to. dismiss the Bible you think that Biden's. way more guilty of corruption than Trump. I'm not saying that you're saying there. I'm saying they're both corrupt and I'm. saying that to say that Biden is like. the good that was like what everybody. thought when he got into office finally. the adults are in the room now but. that's not really true and nothing. really changed that much once they got. in there it's not what it's it's not. like what everybody would like there's a. good guy and a bad guy I think there's. two bad guys.

and I think there's corruption that. exists in big business and in government. that is on a scale that we probably. would get violently ill if we found out. the actual numbers and what really is. going on in terms of influence and how. decisions get made and about how certain. people become immune to prosecution and. certain people become uh Sarah Epstein. there's a lot yeah there's a lot there's. a lot the F scene thing is [ __ ] nuts.

it's nuts that they put that woman in. jail for sex trafficking to no one. who are the people there's no list you. have no idea there's no there's no. disclosure but the fact that no one's. asking for that and the people that were. involved in these crimes have never been. brought to Justice or even discussed and. it's just something that just gets swept. under the table there's no outcry. there's no like there's no people. demanding an investigation to find out. what the [ __ ] happened there's real. clear evidence that he was murdered and.

everyone's trying to say it was oh it. was just suicide you know no big deal. and there you go the cameras didn't work. no big deal whatever it's over let's not. talk about it anymore that's nuts that's. crazy there's clear evidence they did. that in front of everybody's face they. killed that guy he knew too much and now. who do you think killed him. as you step right into a life who. [ __ ] knows who [ __ ] knows I mean. the cameras were off who knows they. probably said in an assassin who [ __ ]. strangled him.

and then made it look like it was some. kind of a suicide attempt. yeah wow I mean it's pretty obvious that. that's what they did yeah I mean Michael. Baden the autopsy doctor from the HBO. series he uh investigated the the. autopsy and he said the the the. contusions the the ligature marks on his. neck were indicative of someone being. strangled he also said the break of the. bones or the type of break that happens. when someone's being strangled not when. someone's being hung when you're hung.

it's your body weight that is hanging. you right so it's usually on the upper. side of your neck because you're like. look your weight is hanging you down but. this was down on the bottom of his neck. where he's getting [ __ ] strangled by. somebody and the the bones in his neck. were broken which is what happens when. you get strangled and doesn't happen. when you get hung. wow yeah it's just like physical. evidence that shows that he was murdered. there's also like all the circumstantial. evidence like the cameras being off is. [ __ ] ridiculous yeah and he was left.

with uh he was on suicide watch and he. his he didn't have a roommate and stuff. like that it's a lot there's a lot going. on with that why do you suppose that. you know because there's some situations. that can lead to conspiracy but like. that one's pretty flat-footed yeah right. where it's uh you know it's it's. obviously dirty why do you think that we. do not have as a society an appetite.

for wanting to see. Clarity around that I think it's the. same thing why no one's paying attention. to the UFO thing I think we're inundated. with so much information there's so much. going on there's a Ukraine war there's. climate change there's this there's that. there's wildfires there's [ __ ]. pollution in the ocean it's like it's. constant there's always something to be. freaked out about oh is it people are. dropping like flies and the myocarditis. and how much of it is climate change and. how much of his vaccine injury and how.

much of it is this and then there's new. medications that are coming out to deal. with this and that and what are the side. effects of those and there's new. corruption here and new there and crypto. and financial and Sam bankman Freed's. release and oh it's we're we're just. overwhelmed with information and I think. we just like news Cycles like three. seconds it's in and out and then there's. a new football player and then yeah. there's like occasionally there's an. interesting take on it yeah and then. people like wow that was a great article. so Epstein didn't kill him uh didn't.

kill himself anyway what else yeah well. there's there was you know there's so. much debate about the lab League Theory. and that keeps people occupied there's. so much debate about uh funding gain of. function research whether or not fauci. lied to Congress which it appears he did. there's so much there's so much to freak. out about you really you unless you're. one of those people like you only. concentrate on one you're a climate. change guy and you concentrate on one. specific thing and that's all you focus. on all the time you're overwhelmed.

you're overwhelmed by constant new. threats constant new distractions and. dangers and things to freak out about. and you're overwhelmed with anxiety and. existential angst. it says hard we're not designed to deal. with the information that comes from. eight billion people we're designed to. deal with local stuff yeah like what's. going on in my town yeah what's. happening crops okay what's happening in. the country you know it's like that's. the big local the big Community is the. country and then the rest of the world's. like what's happening in Argentina like.

what's going on in Nicaragua like what. but when it's just [ __ ] thrown at you. all day long constantly the cartels the. borders porous fentanyl's coming in it's. it's title 42 and she's amazing Christ. you can't get a break unless you. disconnect unless you're off of social. media and unless you're not reading the. news and just trying to exist with the. minimum amount of information coming at.

you possible you're overwhelmed yeah. you're overwhelmed I'm totally a News. Junkie me too and there is. and it was one of the because I used to. just watch ESPN every night and then my. wife was like I hate ESPN so I'm like. all right so then we'll watch news you. have to watch stuff together and now she. she's like she's like full Dateline. right you know like uh which is like the. History Channel for women right and uh.

and so but like the news and I also know. that like consuming too much news is not. healthy right because that's come some. of my outrage machine right and it's. it's understanding different kind of uh. things that don't line up right and. but I do feel like we almost you and I. both have this same suspicion but like. we're coming from two different sides. which is fascinating what side do you. think I'm coming from I think you are.

more likely to think that Biden is Satan. and I'm more likely to think that Trump. is Satan I think Biden is a product of a. very corrupt business that has been. corrupt for a long time and he's just. not that good at being discreet about it. not that good at covering it as I also. think you know when he bragged about. getting the prosecutor fired in Ukraine. I think he's just a guy that has a lot. of like ah [ __ ] show them I'll show.

them and it's dumb and I think that's. why a lot of his stuff gets exposed I. don't I don't think he's evil incarnate. I think he's one of those people that is. in charge of government and has been in. that business entrenched in that. business forever I think it's a deeply. corrupting business because it's so over. overwhelmingly corrupted by Financial. interests and by business and and you. know contracts and military industrial. complex and the pharmaceutical. industrial complex and there's so much.

influence yeah and there's so many. lobbyists there's so much going on. there's so many deals being brokered I. think he's a product of that I think. Trump is a businessman who for sure has. been involved in some shady [ __ ] you. know the Trump University thing is a. good one but he's also a guy that was a. Democrat most of his life and he's also. a guy that knows how gross that system. is yeah you know and he was you know he. was a part of it and until he became a. president and then he's an outsider and.

I I don't think that he's a master. Entertainer yeah I mean it's hilarious. dude a master at it like that debate. where he brought in Paula Jones and. after yeah the uh. the the you know him on the bus for. Access Hollywood. I mean there's. very few people that have walked this. Earth that have been able to that would. be able to navigate that situation yes. he did that was and some of it's you.

know having ice in your blood yeah you. know what I mean and being this Larger. than Life character it's just like wow. just everyone who watched that we're. like What did we just see. what is winning now yeah he was he was. just down by 20 points two seconds ago. right and uh so there is. I because I think I think that uh Trump. and Biden will not be the nominees. I think it's a long way off I think that.

I I do think that you know uh what do I. know but I'm just some of it is just. kind of like you know it's it's it's the. sport of politics but I don't think that. that it's I think I I think if Trump. goes down I think Biden's like I'm out. and so who takes this place. well I mean I don't think he quits but I. think he goes I'm not I think then. someone's like we don't need you to run. I think that's why he's running is.

because he's the only one that could. beat Trump. oh man I wonder. on the Democratic side yeah well by the. way it's like uh or the Republican side. none of these Republicans is as. uh well-liked as they are or how well. they kind of. uh work the outrage machine they can't. compete with him well I think uh Ron. DeSantis is finding that out that they. can that he can't compete with them you. know that you know I think he was so.

successful and so loved as the governor. of Florida that pulled everybody through. the coveted crisis that he was going to. take this no-nonsense you know. conservative approach and then run the. country in a good way and everyone's. going to get back to the way America is. going to be used to be strict Dad yeah. right but yeah it doesn't seem like he. can compete against the Trump machine. and people are angry at him now. Republicans are angry at him now for. going against Trump yeah and so that's. not a good spot to be in you don't want. to be on the the opposite side. Republican oh that poor [ __ ] would you.

see that that interview that he did with. Tucker Carlson well he was talking about. the demise of the cities in America and. all the problems that we have in America. and he said that's not my concern. and they're like that's you're done you. just [ __ ] up that's it no one cares. about you now now like he literally. killed his campaign with that one. conversation with Tucker Carlson well it. would have been a miracle for him too. I mean I just think as someone. you know like in the entertainment.

industry you eat a lot of [ __ ] you you. know you you know comedy clubs getting. on stage you know the owner just being a. dick to you. but like Mike Pence. seeing those Gallows his kids were. visiting he was like running he his life. was in danger he knew like I can't get. in that car. and he's what are you talking about Mike. Pence like when he was down when they. were taking him away from the capitol.

they were like he refused to get in the. car because there was an expectation. that like the Secret Service was going. to take him away from the capitol so. that they couldn't complete the the uh. what he was supervising on on January 6. well there was people that were looking. for him yeah no they wanted to attack. him there was tons of those but like so. like essentially Nancy Pelosi and the. head of Congress and the Senate they. were taken away from the capital and.

Mike Pence there was a car downstairs. and they're like we're going to take you. away and he's like I'm not getting in. that car. because if they take if he got in that. car and he they were like. there were you know they took him to. like uh I don't know Pennsylvania. then they couldn't complete the the one. of the tactics was not. um certifying the votes right and that. was the tactics so if he could have so. that's where he had the self discipline.

to go I'm not getting in that car I need. to certify the votes but the fact that. he was almost killed and that people. were sick on him and then he's like you. know I don't know if Trump should be. indicted you know like that's where I'm. kind of like I've eaten so much [ __ ] and. I've kissed so much ass but I am not. I've not come close to what Mike Pence. has the you know the that's where. ambition was more important than.

a certain self-dignity yeah I'm not. aware of that I'm not aware of that this. the facts behind that at all but I I do. don't I don't think that anyone's going. to vote for him for president no he's. just not a presidential guy he's not a. guy that you think of as a leader he. just seemed very weird. yeah well it's just he was he they put. him on the ticket because he was going. to get the evangelicals yes yeah yeah I. mean I think he is a man of faith and. but he's also I mean they're all.

politicians. it's like you know when you know you. talk about any any politician Barack you. know Clinton it's like people like yeah. they're politicians I'm like yeah that's. what they do that's what they do yeah I. mean it's like. it's not it's not like it's like saying. an agent you know an agent takes 10 I'm. like yeah that's they're an agent they. help you get jobs and they get 10 that's. why they do it yeah I mean that's their. job they want their cut yeah it helps.

you yeah it's a business yeah that's how. it works all those things work together. yeah if you have a bad agent you think. your agent's just taking money not doing. any work well then you got an argument. yeah but yeah I think that. there's no one that that stands out. other than RFK he's he stands out to me. as being very unique but and who's that. gentleman uh Vivek how do you say his. last name uh the Indian guy who's. running as a republican yeah young guy. very smart very interesting has have you.

had him on the show no I haven't I. haven't talked to him but I'm impressed. with his ability to talk about complex. situations. very very smart guy. he's young a very young guy I mean how. old is he 37 yeah very young like only. two years older than you like the the. cutoff like it's 35 right you can't be. younger than 35. I don't know if I want. a 37 year old guy running the country.

seems a little young yeah it's super. intelligent and very interesting and he. could perhaps be a guide uh you know. that would bring hope to rational. conservatives in the future. yeah it's interesting because we are in. this. age where uh. there is he's kind of rising above some. of that cultural stuff right or he's. intending to yeah yeah the cultural. stuff is [ __ ] crazy and it's also you.

know that's exacerbated by social media. too and it's also exacerbated by trolls. like people that are hired to stir up. [ __ ] and hired to get people at each. other's throats yeah yeah and it's we're. all being manipulated all of us everyone. constantly all day long there's there's. so many. pieces of evidence of. of interference where it's not just. discourse where people just discussing. things online there's people that are.

hired to take egregious ridiculous. positions and fight against other people. and say horrible things and attack. people they're doing it on purpose and. they're doing it to try to. to try to disrupt rational conversation. and rational disagreements where people. could possibly come to some sort of a. reasonable conclusion. all right how is the Russian Ukraine. conflict going to end since we are. unqualified to talk about it all yes but. let's talk about more things we're.

unqualified what what is going to happen. besides the end of the world the end of. the world is the scary one right it's uh. like when. um. when the Wagner group was marching. towards Russia I was like holy [ __ ] I. know well by the way they though that. guy was. the whatever his name is uh uh whatever. he is he's in Russia and he's like like. I thought he'd be dead by now yeah he's. he's like in Russia there was like a. photograph of him uh and so like he's.

got his own Army. I know but like wild. I don't know I just serious yeah he was. uh burgosian pragosian yeah he was there. was a photograph of him yeah right there. wow appears in the sidelines of Russia. Africa somewhere in St Petersburg wow. paramilitary group's founder has. continued being seen at events in Russia. despite supposedly agreeing Exile in. Belarus. yeah I mean there's a power struggle.

going on there and that guy is a. billionaire with his own private Army. which is wild. that you couldn't you know he seems like. a Simpsons storyline right do I mean. like I work for the president I cater. his meals then I pitch I run my own Army. and then because I think the Wagner. group essentially in all of Africa they. it's the Wagner group it's not even the.

Russian army really you know that yeah. yeah it's like. because they they did all the stuff in. Syria and stuff like that so it's you. know it's this mercenary Army which is. by the way not that unique so like I you. know when I worked on uh Peter Pan. um you know you get into the pirate. thing and the the British Navy. was the reason they were they ended up. with this great Navy is because they.

hired a bunch of pirates too. like they were like Hey we're fighting. the French you want to work for us and. they're like yeah all right all right. you can have some of Jamaica hey we're. uh fighting in Spain do you wanna and. they're like yeah all right they're like. all right you can have some of uh you. know we'll make you a lord you know I. mean it's like it's just it's a very. American thing too it's like these you. know the the you know the criminals or.

or you see this with billionaires and. I'm not applying this to musk but like. all these billionaires like they achieve. incredible success right and you know. that they're kind of like squashing. other companies and then they're kind of. like all right now I've got to redeem. myself you know like Carnegie did it. Getty did it you know philanthropy you. know it's like. let's scrub up that perception yeah hey. how about a terrific acting school how. about the most beautiful building on.

50th Street in Manhattan you know how. about a museum and you know it's just it. cleans up yeah some tactics that were. uh you know probably questionable. there's definitely a lot of that right. yeah. yeah so there's a lot of shitty things. going on all simultaneously happening. and you know. we're supposed to be the beacon of. democracy for the world we're supposed. to be the greatest example of the. experiment of self-government the.

world's ever known. and we're being influenced and and. manipulated left and right constantly I. mean there's. there's can you there's there's this one. group that is pretty uh Jennifer. Lawrence does this thing it's like some. uh kind of uh I've worked with uh. uh Ed uh Helms and there's this it's. this non-partisan group that is all.

about. uh you know like for instance getting. rid of gerrymandering. um you know uh ranked Choice voting you. know it's some of the Andrew Yang stuff. it's like all this. non-partisan things that conservatives. and liberals and moderates. essentially all you know because. essentially what's happening now is that. 70 of the American public will want uh. one thing to happen and our our.

government officials will not do it. because they are so beholden to special. interests and so it's like we really. don't have a representative democracy. right it's pretty scary it is scary yeah. it's money you have to take money out of. politics and how do you do that like. imagine trying to go in there and. untangle that bag of wires right or. saying you know next election next. presidential election is only going to. be six weeks. and then the TV places are going to be.

like oh those commercials we make all. our money yeah. you know it's. so it's kind of two sides of it it's. like it's also like the pharmaceutical. commercials you know they're I think. they're only legal in the U.S and New. Zealand yeah but New Zealand's far more. restrictive than the us too but if they. got rid of them you know. hey all right we gotta I guess we gotta. get rid of half our channels well they.

probably would and that probably would. be good and then it would be the rise of. Independent News sources and real. journalism which you're seeing more on. the internet now than you're seeing in. mainstream media you know Independent. News sources on the internet are far. more reliable in my opinion than what. you're seeing on Fox news or on NS MSNBC. is the what you get on those is you know. sanctioned propaganda and when you get. on Independent channels is people that. don't have a vested interest they're not. being controlled by corporate interest.

and they have the ability to whether. it's guys like Jimmy Dore or whether. it's breaking points they have the. ability to talk about things in a. complex way and look at them on both. sides and find out what what the. influence is and where the corruption is. and and talk about it publicly and. openly and because of that because this. is the these are the only sources that. are available now is independent sources. where people are individuals that you. can trust because you know they don't. lie they might have their biases but. they're not being influenced by. corporations yeah but like I do sit.

there and I think the lesson of Fox News. is I remember when the Fox News kind of. rose and they were you know like they. started with the mainstream media kind. of language is that what I learned is oh. it's impossible for a human being. whether it be Walter Cronkite or Jesse. Waters to deliver a a sentence of news. information without kind of having their. personality their it's impossible for it.

to be completely objective do you know I. mean even the most boring newscaster. it's like well now they're downplaying. this Riot you know I mean they're like. there was a riot you know because CNN. used to be like that it used to be very. talky head right. and um. but I don't know it's weird because I. think it's hard to. for something to be completely objective. it's very hard it's almost impossible. well one of the things about uh breaking.

points with Crystal and Sagar is that. Sagar is conservative and Crystal is. liberal and the two of them have. differing opinions but respectfully and. educated and they talk about things from. a fact-based perspective. you know and that and when did when has. that existed on mainstream news you. don't have like you just have Crossing. points you know there's there's a few of. those shows the McLaughlin group yeah. there was a few of those shows where. they'd have like one dorky conservative. or one but also they they'd have to do.

the quips right oh yeah yeah and also. there's a problem with those shows too. is that they're very limited in time. right so if you have a guest on and you. have one segment with that guest you. have seven minutes of stuff to discuss. the the complications of NATO. encroaching on Russia and how much of an. influence that had on on Putin invading. Ukraine like is complicated you'd have. to go into the coup the organized coup. that was probably funded by the United. States in 2014 you'd have to go into the. fact that we've been delivering arms to.

that like there's a lot of [ __ ] that you. would have to unwrap the influence and. the the amount of time that you would. need to do that is hours and hours and. probably multiple episodes instead they. have to jam it all into five minutes and. then we'll be right back with cute cats. we'll be right back with you know here. here's a a a new thing that you should. take here's a new study that shows that. you know obesity could be conquered by. this and it's like are carrots bad for. you yeah it's always I'm like you're. like I gotta find out if carrots are bad.

for me I always had a feeling carrots. were bad. carrot juice is supposed to be not that. great for you really yeah it's supposed. to be juice that's the the problem with. carrot juice is very high in sugar juice. is delicious but carrot juice is [ __ ]. delicious oh it's like organic carrot. juice right out of this thing oh. yeah what is so like why. given that like we know that juice is. like orange juice I like grapefruit.

juice it's so funny I do material on. something and then I end up liking it. like I like hiking now and now it's so. annoying. um but the uh but like orange juice and. grapefruit juice tomato juice it's all. you're just drinking sugar right so it's. like why is there when you go. to a you know breakfast it's still there. and by the way I like you know I like it.

what's there same reason why pancake is. there yeah pancakes are there because. people like them and and the fact that. cereal still exists when we know that's. the worst thing to feed a child right. [ __ ] just sugar and shitty. carbohydrates right yeah it's like I'm. such a uh I always feel like such a hero. when I like get my kids to eat eggs and. bacon and there's no bread or anything. I'm like I did it yeah they just had. protein they had healthy fats and then. they go and they just probably eat candy.

yeah orange juice like a big 16 ounce. glass of orange juice That's So alien. like there's no other time when you're. eating food naturally that you get that. kind of a dose of sugar like how much. sugar is in let's Google this how much. sugar is in a 16 ounce glass of fresh. squeezed orange juice. I bet it's extraordinary I bet the. amount of oranges you would have to eat. to get that sugar and again when you're. eating an orange you're eating it with. the pulp and the fiber and it digests. more slowly it's more natural it's.

normal it's the way your your body likes. fruit because fruit is delicious because. it tricks your body into eating it and. you eat the seeds you [ __ ] them out and. then the seeds grow and then plants grow. that's the whole nature hustle yeah. that's that's why fruit's so good for. you it's filled with vitamins I got two. answers unfortunately first answer says. 16 ounce glasses 37 grams but then right. below it I see 24 grams per 8 ounces. it's a lot that's a [ __ ] ton of sugar so.

like if you saw that on the back of a. can of SpaghettiOs you'd be like Ramen. right I'm like that's not good it's all. sugar but you would never be that much. sugar in a can of SpaghettiOs that's a. [ __ ] ton of sugar that's like more what. is uh okay what is it how much sugar is. in a Coca-Cola yeah that's 16 ounces. so your body other than getting vitamin. C is getting the same kind of sugar dose. that you get from a glass of soda.

wow yeah that's not that's not that good. it's not good it's delicious not bad. every now and again there's a can of. SpaghettiOs 11 grams and it can. spaghetti wow that's a lot but that's. not 48 also not 12 ounces yeah right. yeah. yeah. you know. oh it's only four ounces it's 15.8 oh 15. ounces okay so yeah so 11 ounces in the. same so it's healthier to eat. SpaghettiOs than to drink a glass of. orange juice it's not wild isn't that.

wild well then you're also getting the. sugar from the the the the the wheat. that's the pasta getting processed the. pasta in your body yeah. what about gluten-free pasta because. when like during the pandemic you were. like all right get rid of bread and. sugar and tea but you do and so when I. would cheat and I would have like. gluten-free pizza and by the way you. bring that up to an Italian they're like. we don't do gluten-free pizza yeah but. like if you have gluten-free pizza or. gluten-free pasta is that better or am I.

just kidding myself it really depends on. what it's made out of now if you have a. gluten sensitivity like uh two of my. kids have gluten sensitivities one of. them is like really has a problem with. gluten she just gets swollen so it just. feels like [ __ ] like bad stomach aches. yeah. um if you do that yeah it's gluten-free. pasta is better because they can eat. gluten-free pasta they don't have any. problems but it's also what's. interesting is and many people talk. about this when you go to Italy and you. eat pasta over there you don't have the.

same reaction because they don't have. the same bread they don't have the same. wheat they have they have heirloom wheat. so their weed has never been genetically. modified they have the same wheat. they've had for hundreds of years so. when you eat bread and pasta it's not. the best thing in the world for you but. it does not have the same effect on your. body I don't have this overwhelming. feeling of like inflammation and. grossness that I have when I eat. American pasta because American pasta. what they've done is modify the wheat.

for higher yield with smaller so you're. saying you don't love your country. no but it's like why but we could go. around so many different things and I'm. not talking about you know in World War. II you know they they had to you know. they had to make cheese slices in a. large quantity so that they can give. them to all the soldiers that's why we. have sliced American cheese and stuff. like that but like why does it seem with. every food item. that America is.

kind of you know it's by the way if. Americans care about money it's like it. we're you're gonna pay at the end you. you know like you're not the same people. pay the same people don't pay at the end. so it's all money it's all money there's. higher yield there's more money we're. gonna have to pay for medical costs. right but they're not paying other. people okay so the the people that are. involved in the industry that makes. wheat makes corn makes these different. things all they're thinking about is. maximizing profits so in the pursuit of.

maximizing profits they create an item. that's worse for your health and they. don't care so it's up to you so as long. as there's other options as long as. other options are readily available it's. up to you to decide to only eat things. that aren't modified and aren't bad for. you and Aren't filled with pesticides. eating organic eating healthier stuff. but if it's a corporation a. corporation's obligation is to their. shareholders yeah so they have to. continue to make more money and they.

make decisions that would maximize. profit and in doing so a lot of times. they're making a product that's worse. for your health than the original. product but it lasts on the Shelf longer. you get higher yield for acreage and. that's what they do it's all money now. there's certain people that have. recognized that and have changed their. Farms like I had uh Will Harris from. White Oaks pastors on the podcast a. fascinating guy and he had an industrial. farm that his family was running forever. and over the course of 20 years.

converted it to a regenerative farm and. a natural Farm where it's all organic. and no pesticides no herbicides when. they have a problem with like some sort. of invasive insect they bring in another. insect that kills it that's not that's. not the guy who did uh biggest little. farm documentary that's an amazing is. that saliton is Joel Salton the biggest. little farm that's a guy from polyface. farms who's also a regenerative. agricultural expert who I've also had on. the podcast this guy who did this I.

think he was like a DP and his wife they. lived in LA and but it's by the way it's. really fascinating because that's that's. the whole thing of like okay you've got. a snail problem. uh buy some ducks and let the ducks in. there yes you've got okay you've got uh. you've got a wolf problem well don't. kill the Wolves because if you don't if. you don't kill the Wolves then you're. gonna have all these Gophers you know I. mean so it's like it's full circle of. life thing yeah yeah well the way will.

Harris describes it he's like. essentially you're reproducing nature in. a controlled environment so instead of. applying pesticides and herbicides and. chemicals and toxins which leads to. horrific runoff like yeah one of the. things that we've showed on this podcast. multiple times is they documented how. their Farm is connected to. industrialized Farms industrialized farm. right next to it and the river runs. through both properties but there is a. clear line where the runoff from this.

industrial Farm is just this brown. pollutants that's going into the river. because it's industrial fertilizer and. on his side the water's clear. because on his side he doesn't use any. of that stuff and they have fertile. topsoil because during the regenerative. farming practices of using manure the. cows only eat grass and that this all. like creates its own natural fertilizer. and then you have the pigs which are. roaming and foraging and you have the.

chickens that are rolling and foraging. and then you grow the vegetables with. that manure as fertilizer and then. everything sort of has its place yeah. and it it it recreates what a natural. environment would be it's just contained. it's just fenced in and many many acres. and it's all like this Recreation. yeah that's what we're supposed to be. eating and you know Russia has banned. GMO Foods.

and we should probably do it here and. then by the way genetically modified. doesn't necessarily mean bad you know. there's been genetic modifications that. have led to Superior nutrition and I. think that's the case with I believe. it's golden rice or it's a more. nutritious more protein Rich rice and it. led to many more people uh not dying of. famine and starvation and there's. there's different things that can be. done to foods that make them Superior. you know it's not all negative but.

pesticides and herbicides like on whole. like pretty much are terrible and. they're terrible because they're poison. they kill weeds they kill also they're. also you know if and I just know this. for just from my limited experience in. gardening it's just the Quick Fix it's. not even the fix right so it's like if. you have aphids you should just get. ladybugs right but that brings a spray. it brings us back to money because what.

is the cheapest way to do this is going. to get the highest yield well the. highest yield is genetically modified. organisms with pesticides and herbicides. yeah and then you just get massive. amounts of crops monocrop agriculture. which is totally unnatural it's totally. unnatural to have a thousand acres of. just corn growing in a place it doesn't. happen in the wild well I think it was. also the sapiens there was something. also about farming. that you know all right so you could. feed a lot of people where we had the.

corn and we had the potatoes but that's. all they ate was the potatoes they. didn't eat anything else whereas like. before that before farming people would. forage and yeah there was a variety to. the diet. had food they also had a lot of. starvation because sometimes you weren't. successful yeah and then you know they. would have climate issues or issues with. crops dying and then you're [ __ ] well. by the way so like. the you're only supposed to have one.

meal a day right. well always the most important meal. that's all Bs the food pyramid that's. all kind of uh more milk well the food. pyramids horseshit because the bottom of. it is all green you know it's just about. [ __ ] but that's what they thought at one. point in time that that was like the. staple of a good diet it's not a. conspiracy they thought that that was. the way to do it you know and they were. taught that in school that that was the. way to do it. you know they just they got bad.

information and now we understand that's. probably not the way to do it and the. right way to do it is to re-eat real. food to eat real organic vegetables real. organic meat and fish and then you know. the fish thing it's like how much. mercury poisoning is in the fish how. much heavy metal toxins are in the fish. like what kind of environment were these. fish growing up in. you know there's like if you eat a lot. of fish you can get sick like there's. people that have gotten sick from eating. too much Sushi yeah. it's crazy it's just and there's just.

also just. so much there used to be so many fish. and I don't know if you've seen that map. of like just the Gulf of Mexico it's. like oh it's devastated we've we've I. don't know what the numbers are let's. find out what percentage of fish have. been removed from the ocean over the. last 50 years. let's find that out well by the way when. I wrote this book about I had all these. jokes on oysters and how they were.

because you know that Long Island Oyster. Bay it was called Oyster Bay because. there were oysters everywhere and so. like when people would come to New York. City when they when people would go to. Boston they'd get Lobster when they come. to New York City they get clams and. oysters. and now it's like. but we just gobbled through all the. oysters on Long Island and I think that. like worldwide we've eaten through 90 of. the clams and oysters. that existed.

isn't that unbelievable it's insane. because it happened so quickly you think. humans have been around for hundreds of. thousands of years and over the last few. decades we ate all the clamps yeah just. like all of them all the Lofts and also. all the fish you know I I played this. character that worked at a fish refiner. I didn't realize that all the streams. all the Lakes they're just farmed fish. because we destroyed the ecosystems in. these things where we gobbled up all the.

fish so then we have to put like bass. into these lakes that I don't even know. if they were there 2048 no more fish oh. my God the current state of overfishing. continues the world's oceans will be. emptied for fish by 2048. what. wow is that real. oceans are massively overfished only 15. percent of the world's Fisheries are a. relative and a relatively good condition. the remaining 85 percent are fully or.

over exploited depleted or in a fragile. state of recovery from exploitation. there are no signs of things improving. the planet's fishing fleet is two to. three times larger than what oceans can. support. wow. 97.4 of Pacific bluefin tuna gone. holy [ __ ] right just they're the bluefin. tuna are at just 2.6 of its historic. population. holy [ __ ].

by 2050 there could be more plastic than. fish in the world's ocean measured by. weight. wow yeah I mean it's it's but those it's. the fish eating the the plastic yeah. that is the well it's also the pollution. I mean that we've had a boy in slot on. the podcast he's a a young man who. created an invention to siphon the. plastic out of the water to filter the. plastic out of the water and then they. take that plastic and make things out of.

it they make like eyeglasses and stuff. like that out of it pretty interesting. because he's got this machine that goes. over the Pacific uh garbage patch that. giant [ __ ] enormous size of the State. of Texas and they just scoop up. this plastic and then they they carry it. out and then they take that plastic and. convert it into usable Goods I mean. that's where I I don't understand the. Emeritus there's this ocean cleanup. thing so he has this machine that they.

he's a really young guy I mean I think. he made this invention when he was 19. years old it's brilliant brilliant guy. we've had him on twice right yeah. but uh salute to him so this machine and. they've refined it over the years. they've they've employed multiple ones. of it now and they're using them to. clean up oceans and rivers and they just. scoop up the plastic and they take that. plastic and recycle it. there is a certain cynicism because like. as somebody is like and then I know. we're gonna find out you know it's like.

and then that what what they're doing is. they're creating a accidentally creating. a monster that's because they're but. like there is so much human Ingenuity I. can't figure I can't I can't understand. why because there's also a water. shortage why we can't. you know the three-fourths of the planet. is or maybe I don't know 5 8 or whatever. is water but it's salt water right so. how and like the water rights thing it's.

like we can't figure out how to get the. salt out of the water well we certainly. can but it's too expensive right I don't. know uh I don't know why they haven't. done that I know that California was. work on desalination plants and that was. something that was discussing if anybody. needs water it's [ __ ] California. right yeah I mean what about Phoenix. yeah right yeah I mean if they could. figure that out we'd probably drain the. water out of the ocean within 50 years. they'd be like there's no more water. left in the ocean and there'd be like.

giant [ __ ] water parks in Kansas. interior oceans or we want to see whales. in Nebraska and they'd have a [ __ ]. whale Park well now some of it is if we. could you know like fresh water is so. key yeah but I I guess do you think that. there is something of the environmental. crisis that people have an attitude of. like yeah we'll figure it out yeah we'll.

figure it out at the end I think it's. like what we were talking about earlier. with so many things to think about. there's so much going on and there's a. few people that concentrate on one issue. in particular and then for the vast. majority of us there's just this [ __ ]. menu of things to freak out about right. and you just get overwhelmed and you. have your own problems and you have your. own life and you have you know a husband. or a wife and kids and a mortgage and a. job and this and that and family.

problems and [ __ ] you like to play. Bingo on Friday night whatever the [ __ ]. it is yeah you got a lot going on like. how much can you really pay attention to. it's just boy we're a real Debbie Downer. on this show aren't we no well it's. today it's like I think it's fast I. think somebody's like cleaning their. garage they're listening it's definitely. fascinating it's it's fascinating that. we find ourselves in this very unusual. time in human history it's a very. unusual time where we're overwhelmed by. information we're overwhelmed by. problems but also overwhelmed by.

Innovation and things seem to be. changing it's an insanely rapid Pace we. have more access to information that's. ever been available for people know more. about more things than they ever have. before and if you choose to really. concentrate on things to enrich your. intelligence and your your you know your. acquiring of information you could. really have a pretty fascinating life. today but we're also overwhelmed by fear. and anxiety and social media and health. problems and this and that and poor diet. and environmental concerns and are we.

leaving behind a world for our kids and. there's so much there's so much to freak. out about but there's also so much. Beauty and joy there's more art and. music and comedy than ever before yeah. you know the the music uh the the rather. the movie industry is [ __ ] there. seemed to be in a a bad situation now. and now that there's a strike going on. with the the uh the actors and the. writers it's like [ __ ] like there's oh. that's that's a bad situation but. but in terms of like content in terms of.

the amount of things that people produce. the amount of art that people produce. it's unprecedented right it's the amount. the variety compared to what we consumed. as a child ugh there were Happy Days. episodes that didn't make sense. they didn't make sense in real life I. guess that's good enough right yeah like. to jump the shark yeah there was that's. Ribbit yeah there was tons that was just. absolute garbage and you're like but you. know what I love that Henry Winkler.

standards were far lower you ever go. back and watch like an old television. show today they seem so preposterous go. watch Leave It to Beaver. you're like what the [ __ ] is this well. that was fantasy stuff right that was. fantasy stuff yeah we were just like. gosh mom my three sons yeah stuff like. that that was crazy crazy just no one. lived like that. and to set that standard that people to.

Aspire to that ridiculous fake life. that's also a problem with media. depictions of reality is that people. start comparing themselves just like. kids are getting [ __ ] up by social. media comparing themselves to filters. and fake people I mean third 15 year old. boys are looking at porn yeah you know. what I mean so there's that and yeah. it's con completely confusing reality. but media depictions of reality whether. it's through television or movies or. songs it gives people an idea of how. their life is supposed to go based on.

these Heroic Adventures of these people. based on all these people that are doing. the right thing and then when you have a. movie that's a realistic movie a movie. that realistically deployed. explains people in a way that you know. to be true like that movie's gritty. that's a that's a crazy like dark movie. yeah I don't you know you feel like. there's Indie movies like uh Nomad land.

it's like where she lives in a van. like that's rich people they're like. what would it be like to live in a van. where it's like. whereas like everyone else who who would. who might live in a van. they want to know what it would be like. if they could turn into an ant you know. I mean they want to watch Ant-Man you. know what I mean so it's just like but. like there. so you know and you touch a little bit. on the strike but like that there is.

this ongoing thing for decades we've. been hearing about the wealth disparity. you know I mean it's like you know uh it. goes beyond. Bernie Sanders bring it up every four. years it's. it's one of those things and by the way. you and I have done well and we donate. all our money but like the whole thing. is is like there is something about like. what a CEO made in 1983 versus what a.

CEO makes in 2023 is pretty ridiculously. different it is pretty ridiculously. different but again it goes back to what. a corporation is if you want someone. that's going to run a corporation that. that and that Corporation is going to. ruthlessly try to acquire wealth for. their shareholders you want someone. who's willing to do a lot of [ __ ] to do. that so you want someone who's going to. get they're going to benefit from that.

they're going to financially benefit. from that in an extraordinary way so. they're going to be the most driven the. most psychotic about it and in turn. they're going to generate the most. wealth for their shareholders and. because of the way structures are. created these these corporate structures. they have an obligation to make more. money every year more money every. quarter that's if they don't do that. they'll get out they'll get kicked out. and they'll find someone new and by the. way there's no one who's running those. giant corporations that's over 65. they. get to a certain age they get rid of.

them all those Fortune 500 companies you. don't see people running CEOs those. companies that are 80 years old no they. [ __ ] funnel them out and get some new. guys on Adderall and that guy goes. [ __ ] ham and and you know fund some. [ __ ] fugazi studies and shows that. this product is totally safe and. effective and great and now the money's. flowing in and then the politicians are. paid off and they're using the money for. advertising for corporate media and. they've got this kind of nice balance. going on where they're just racking up. numbers.

and that's what they do yeah but it's. just some of the. there used to be the board of directors. that would be like hey can you not pay. yourself 50 million dollars. and I think that now the board of. directors is like so I get 250. for coming to three meetings you're like. there isn't. a certain amount of. uh. you know. responsibility like I think it would. have been considered icky.

for a CEO to pay themselves that do I. mean I'm not aware was it I don't know I. don't know just guessing and by the way. I'm also saying like. I mean I have friends that are like. anyone who's made a billion dollars is. stolen from something yeah yeah yeah I'm. not saying that but like most people are. conveniently always poor yeah you know I. mean but I'm saying that like there is. something about you know and that's. something that's.

you know there's just you know it's also. how much. does someone need right and I'm not. saying that look I'm a capitalist I. totally am but I'm just like. I don't know maybe yeah you're a. capitalist but you're a capitalist. artist that's the difference you're. providing something that's greatly. beneficial to the people that consume it. there's a there's a great exchange it's. a great exchange yeah you're creating. art you're creating comedy you're. thinking about things you're coming up.

with unique perspectives you're crafting. it and editing it to the point where it. gets into someone's head like surprise. sneak punch lines and pops and yeah and. laughter It's A Beautiful Exchange the. money that you get is well earned and. deserved and you're creating Joy it's. not this it's a net benefit but if you. were creating pesticides. you know if you were creating something. that might be killing some kids but uh. for the most part it's just killing bugs. yeah.

yeah. yeah that's when things get sketchy and. then when you've been making you know 15. 20 million dollars a year doing that. you're going to keep doing that. especially if you can Shield yourself. with politicians and walk around. yourself people that are saying you know. what you you made 20 last year you. should make 20 this year not only that. you're you're you're funding studies so. you're you're you're you're controlling. these scientists that are the ones that. are supposed to be coming up with these. peer-reviewed studies that show whether. something is effective or good or bad.

you know and that's how [ __ ]. glyphosate gets into all of our food. supply that's how 94 of the population. in America tests positive for glyphosate. which is dangerous it's a dangerous. chemical. yeah and 94 of us have it in our body. from food because it's sprayed on. everything and you know they'll say oh. it's just a minimal amount a small. amount well wait a minute was that on. the RFK episode that well we might have. discussed it on that but that's. something that I read before that it's. dangerous stuff man atrazine was what he.

was talking about which is another. pesticide which is an endocrine. disruptor that's the one that Alex Jones. said turns the frogs gay yeah it really. does it it turns the frogs into. hermaphrodites it causes some frogs to. switch speed switch genders they turn. female they actually produce viable eggs. yeah it's it's a weird creepy chemical. and then there's also phthalates which. exist in microplastics that all of us. have in our body there's a direct. correlation there's a woman named Dr. Shanna Swan from Harvard.

she wrote a book called countdown she's. from Harvard right she wrote a book. called countdown and um. she uh shows that from the introduction. of petrochemical products Plastics in. society there's been a direct. correlation between that introduction a. decrease in sperm count an increase in. miscarriages a decrease in penis and. testicle size the based in Mount Sinai. um okay she so This Woman's amazing and.

she's really fun too she published more. than two stop she published more in 200. scientific papers and featured an. extensive media coverage around the. world uh her appearance is she's a. Reaper of environmental and reproductive. epidemiologist. and so her uh work is all around oh in. The Joe Rogan Experience her work is all. about how these microplastics are. affecting children and they're affecting. the affecting the development of kids in. the womb so in mammals when they do.

studies with mammals they introduce. phthalates into the mammals when the. mammals are pregnant the babies of the. mammals become affected by this and the. reproductive systems are affected and. we're seeing the direct results of that. with human populations as well and she's. showing through all these studies that. there are micro people are eating so. much microplastic you eat like what is. it a credit card size piece of plastic. every week everyone does. that's what it was right it was a week.

yeah but you remember I found out that. they start to find that they studied. like some penguin or something like that. and found like the penguin had them out. and then they were like well that's. probably close they did some math. equation to figure out that's how much. humans had so also. worked at MasterCard. [Laughter]. s I'm trying to get rich it is just like. there's a lot of bad news but I also. think that like that is one of those. things where you can swim in this chaos.

and it can be like all right let me just. stuff a bunch of fries in my mouth to to. know myself yeah but you can isolate. yourself from that kind of news and. meditate and concentrate on positive. things and just go take yoga classes and. go for hikes and be around all the. positive things in the world because. there's still a lot of that like if you. go for a hike in Wyoming and you go. through the mountains it's a beautiful. experience and you are removed from all.

the [ __ ] it's like you get to see. nature you get to see deer and Eagles. and like this is nice this is beautiful. do you ever feel like. so there's the greatest Generation right. and uh there's the Boomers. but like uh and I'm not bagging on the. Boomers and I'm barely Gen X but like do. you sit there and go. our generation are working are we the. ones [ __ ] this up. well some of us are yeah I mean humans.

because there's some the leadership. right because like even. you know when we use the CEO example. like there was I just you know I'm sure. there was corruption back then but like. there was this greater sense of civics. and you know like uh you know helping. you know like just the. the the drive during World War II people. were sacrificing things and now it's. like you know there's a little poison.

people are reading a credit card a week. anyway what's going on sure I mean like. there is is there and I don't want to. blame a certain generation but like do. you sit there and you go. people our age it's like we should be. stepping up and some of it is like why. are these 80 year olds in charge you. know Vivek is with he's 37. it's like. where's our generation that well yeah. our generation yeah where are they well. they're hiding first of all they don't.

want to run for president because they. have skeletons in their closet they. don't want their life to be picked apart. or they don't want lies printed about. them which is also part of the dirty. thing of politics yeah it's not just. things you actually did it's like gross. distortions of things you did to have. the least charitable view of you so that. the world oh that guy's a monster we. ought to cut him out we got to put this. good guy in you know and there's it's. just we don't have a lot of like shining. choices right like when it comes to. politicians I mean Obama was a shining.

choice for a lot of people but then when. he got into the power like a lot of the. policies were very similar to George. Bush's policies particularly with drone. bombings and the protection of. whistleblowers and you know you know. there's so much that you could point to. and say well this is not what we wanted. this is not what we thought we were. getting and there's no one that look. really stands out other than the. outsiders other than the rfks and the. vivics and these people that.

are just different from the established. politicians and those people are they're. fighting against those people with. [ __ ] tooth and Claw because they. don't want them to get into power and. they don't want that kind of change. because that change disrupts this. business that they're running but if. there's part of me that feels like when. you talk about RFK Jr or Vivek I'm like. they're human there there's there's. uh there's there are skeletons you know. maybe I don't know about Vivek but there. are there are like human failures he was.

addicted to heroin yeah no but there are. like. you know like the you know some of it is. not I think so it's easy for us to. characterize oh it's the it's the. quality of the people that go into. politics but some of it is the. occupation yeah like you know. and the inability for them to even. Embrace a sense of compromise so like I. think that like you know with Obama. there was like you know a lot of people.

on left and right would say that he. compromised too much on things when he. had this kind of you know particularly. the first time he had like 60 Senators. you know but like. you know it's I'm not saying Vivek or. any politician you're gonna be corrupted. eventually you're gonna be you know like. Bill Clinton I think you know I'm gonna. lose everyone but like I think he he. wasn't a well-intended guy.

all right so it's hard to know right. first of all because the media back then. was very different than the media today. you know I mean the the only thing that. caught a mom was getting his dick sucked. in the White House was like oh. outrageous well he also like we knew. when he was like I feel your pain I mean. I smelled only [ __ ] yeah but that's. not to say that I didn't think I mean. Reagan was bullshitting us sure I mean. obviously Nixon was obviously read my. lips do you have any new taxes and that.

was [ __ ] and as is. as sincere as Carter was you're like you. know what maybe we did some of the. little Edge you know it seemed to be the. the last of the like really sincere guys. that ran for president was President did. you ever read uh Hunter S Thompson's uh. work on being on the campaign trail with. with uh Carter no Hunter went to see. Carter speak and I remember uh reading. about it that he was you know just like.

not impressed not not interested in. going did those one more [ __ ]. [ __ ] politician and in the middle of. the speech it was so good that he went. out and got a tape recorder and and. brought a tape recorder back to record. the rest of it and and and remembered. thinking like this guy's quoting Bob. Dylan and he's he's talking about the. the future of this country in a way that. he hadn't heard any any politician talk. about in in a long time I mean he's like. somebody that walks the walk yeah and.

talks to the talk and still he's. Christian values yes and still she's. like America's like yeah loves that. stuff yeah and but after that we were. like all right we need a little dirtier. than this well there was the thing with. the Iranian hostage crisis right where. they actively made sure that the Christ. that the hostages weren't released until. Reagan got into office like they they. did that on purpose to show that Reagan. was in you know that was a better choice. power he's going to get it taken care of. you know.

it's a dirty [ __ ] business and when. you have that much money involved it's. going to stay dirty there's going to be. it's you're never going to get a. completely pure like ethical moral. enlightened structure that's running a. capitalist society that is so. overwhelmingly influenced by money. and special interest groups it's a. matter of mitigating all those things to. the maximum amount possible while. exposing fraud as much as possible and. then putting checks and balances in.

place to make sure that fraud and that. that corruption can't get to the place. where it's at now in the future how do. you do that well you have to take money. out of politics good [ __ ] luck you. have to take money out of advertisements. in terms of like pharmaceutical drug. companies being able to advertised on. television people are vastly over. medicated and not giving not being given. the information that a lot of their. medical issues could be mitigated by. exercising diet a lot of them a large.

percentage of them with diet and. nutrition and and vitamin. supplementation and healthy lifestyle. and medic meditation and the mitigation. of stress you can do something to make. your life far better and you won't need. as much medication but there's no profit. in that so they don't say that they. don't tell you but is it I agree agree. with you but is there also something of. every generation of humans looks at the. previous generation and since those. idiots of course they were putting.

leeches on people oh come on we've got. to figure it out just take these bag of. pills yeah do I mean so it's but in some. cases we don't have pills are good for. you yeah I know but we don't have the. humility I think to admit. you know even even the uh you know the. um you know the uh. the covet coming from uh you know the. the lab the lab League Theory I think. that it wasn't some conspiracy it was.

kind of like we have our narrative and. people defend the narrative it's not. like even one side or the other side. it's like look what do you mean meaning. like it's a human. trait to sit there and go okay well all. right so we don't want world war three. so it wasn't China it's just like look. it's it's a I don't think that's the. case with the lab League Theory I think. you think that will clear evidence that. they know. covered it up because he had given money.

well there's emails there's emails. definitely were did that did China leak. it on purpose no I don't think so I I. think well that lab had safety. violations the people in the lab is it. have you seen the photos yeah they built. it on like an island yeah they spent a. lot of money trying to invests in their. infrastructure yeah well whatever they. were doing we were partly funding it. yeah and they were doing gain of.

function research on coronaviruses and I. think people in that lab got sick and I. think they spread it out to the world. and I think fauci covered it up I think. there's real clear evidence There's real. clear evidence in terms of email chain. with the original doctors who had the. scientists that examined it said it. appears to be of have leaked from a lab. these appear to be manipulated viruses. and then they get emails from fauci and. then within days they change their tune. and then they get funded but I'm not. even disagreeing with that uh approach.

what I'm saying is that like. the the general resist it doesn't exist. right now the lab Lake Theory resistance. but the general resistance to that. is a very human kind of reaction to. something where it's like well obviously. it's kind of like the um. America's hesitation to looking at some. of its hard facts about our our you know.

this this experiment that we've. undertaken which is you know. understanding like being able to look. yourself in the mirror like the lab leak. theory is. is in a way the most logical solution. yeah right but also like the you know. and I'm drawing this comparison so like. America lived after World War II under. this belief system that hey we're a.

country of immigrants we all these. immigrants came over we're a Melting Pot. isn't it great anyway uh the end of. story of course that's not the reality. the reality is that the wealth of this. nation was built off of slavery and. about you know many you know stealing. land from Native Americans and so like. there is like a resistance to embracing. that knowledge so similar to the lab. League Theory whether fauci cause it or.

whatever there is a general tendency to. not want to look at a hard fact that. might not be comfortable it's definitely. for people that were involved definitely. for people that were responsible of it. for it and you know it also makes you. feel like you're on the right side of. things if you can come with I mean even. if you don't believe in them if you can. say some facts and some statistics that. seem to point to the fact that it. probably was some sort of a natural.

spillover yeah yeah I mean it also it. eliminates this [ __ ] horrible fear. that this could happen again. you know that that this is a a product. of this monkeying around with viruses. and [ __ ] around with things and. making them more contagious for human. beings which is just a dangerous. practice that Obama had stopped and that. was that was some of it was it was a to. weaponize it or to kind of who knows I.

think there's a lot going on there's. also just pure Financial interests right. there's a lot of funding involved if you. get billions of dollars from. organizations to fund This research and. then you have a business involved in. funding This research look if they're. their way of doing that was to come up. with some sort of a cure for. coronaviruses when they came around well. they failed [ __ ] miserably at that. because the mitigation efforts were very. unsuccessful they weren't prepared they. didn't know what to do and they they.

likely did create something that was way. more contagious and wound up killing a. shitload of people because it got out. yeah that's hard for people to think. about and deal with the fact that the. the scientific community that was. involved in that is responsible for the. direct deaths of who knows how many. [ __ ] people worldwide that's a. terrifying thought yeah I mean that's. probably worse than bombing in a comedy. club. oh. yeah no imagine if you were one of the.

guys that was involved in that research. and you realize that now oh my God holy. [ __ ] maybe your mom died of it and. directly because of stuff that you were. working on. yeah it's terrifying and people are just. kind of well I think you know people. kind of sit there and go well this is my. job this research I don't necessarily. understand but I'm uh doing this yeah. and there's also money in the cure. there's there's money in the treatment. and an insane amount of money that that. gets pushed around that's when people.

get real crazy and think that it was. leaked on purpose so that they can make. money off the treatment. which is the most evil way to look at it. and that that scares the [ __ ] out of me. well it is just uh amazing that I mean. but like the advancements we've made the. fact that we're sitting there. complaining about all these 80 year olds. running the world. is because we've Advanced to that point. you know because hygiene and nutrition. and science and medicine has got us to a. point where people can live Eisenhower.

you know how you know he was bald yeah. he was he was 21 years old. he was a general when he was in general. is 12. and he was 21 when he was bald. but he was probably like if you if you. found out that Eisenhower was President. he looks like he's eight how old was. Eisenhower when he was president I'm. gonna I'm gonna guess. 59 yeah that's probably about right yeah. but he looked like he was 70. he looked. he looked like Cruise track he was 63. 60 you're 63. close enough all right so.

that was. he also had the weight of the world on. his shoulders. right yeah I mean that's the thing about. being a president that like when you see. a guy like Biden who's already. struggling and old yeah. that guy looks like he's seen so if you. show so you know he also you know. planned. you know movements in World War II that. he knew would kill 200 000 men. 200 000 Americans are going to die just. imagine that but we gotta get in there.

yeah I mean it's like you look at like. the Korean War it's like when they. invaded and puts on it's like it was. if you look I don't know if you can like. The Invasion the where they landed in. the Korean war with the North Koreans. had taken over and like there was like. down here and then they came in in Busan. it was this wild gamble where like it. was just sheer death but like D-Day was. insane insane yeah insane storming the. beach in Normandy imagine you're one of.

those guys in that boat and you gotta. get on that beach and just live rounds. are like firing straight towards you and. you gotta Rush the beach. foreign. think about like how that educated an. entire generation like that's yeah one. of 50 brilliant things Spielberg's done. yeah like it's you know Saving Private. Ryan independent of the movie he.

educated. the sacrifice of D-Day yeah to an entire. generation or two yeah and then people. will go after him because he's got a 250. million dollar yacht well I thought you. were about climate change you're flying. around a private jet and a giant yeah. he's a [ __ ] a piece of [ __ ] yeah that. movie's that was a rough movie Man. yeah we don't have to see this. we got it anybody who hasn't seen it. should see it it's probably one of the. most realistic depictions of War by the.

way the sacrifice I mean there's World. War One guys just yeah I haven't seen uh. all quite on the Western Front I haven't. but everybody tells me I have to see it. amazing all right just get to when I'm. watching TV I want to be entertained I. want to be taken away I want to watch. stranger things or something silly I. know I just like I'm sorry I know my. wife's like that a lot of women like. that I'm like a woman no I'm joking I am. a woman. no it is like one of those things where. you're like a baby just needs to escape.

yeah you know what I mean I watched most. of the time when I get home from the. club or when I watch professional pool. you do yeah I watch professional pool. matches because there's no there's no. weight on the world there's no nothing. there's just skillful manipulation of. the ball and moving it around the table. that's what I like to watch there's some. attractive female pool players yeah. there's quite a few yeah. yeah but that's not why I watch it I. watch the man they play better sorry.

sorry ladies some ladies they play a lot. better than me but you know the best. players for some reason are male that's. so interesting so like your kids are. like dad's watching pool yeah they think. I mean he's watching Billiards yeah I. watch pool and uh I watch funny things. are there commentaries oh yeah yeah yeah. yeah I think he's gonna go for the eight. ball shout out to Jeremy Jones the best. yeah there's uh they they comment on. what the the correct uh approach like. what what path the the player should.

take and what kind of English he has to. put on this ball what are the problem. balls that he has to knock out what how. he has to maneuver around the table and. so you you consume that do you watch the. NFL or no no not at all no I mean so. you're in the MMA thing is that you're. like I gotta keep track of that that's. my passion do you look at other sports. like baseball or basketball or do you. like I mean you appreciate the event if. you went to a game but like.

is is there a certain thing that like. what what's holding you back from that. time time I'm sure I would love football. if I really got into it it's an amazing. game I'm sure I'd love basketball I'm. sure I'd love hockey I don't have time. yeah and I don't play those games I'm. not that interested and I've always been. interested in martial arts and I think. martial arts is the most challenging and. dangerous of all the sports and I like. it the most. and you know there's so much to watch. that I have more than enough to consume.

too much really yeah like uh there's a. big event this weekend in Salt Lake City. that I'm going to a big UFC so and are. you working at that one yeah I'm working. so and if you're not working at it you. wouldn't go no I would I would if I. could if I have time off yeah I'd love. to go and watch but uh I would watch at. home most likely but I have to there's. certain matches that I'm gonna have to. watch over the next few days and just. get prep yeah get prepped up and and. also you know as an analyst I have to.

think about like what could possibly. happen in these fights and and what I. think the likely scenarios are and like. it's I always call martial arts high. level problem solving with dire physical. consequences and it's it's a very. complex dangerous game that requires. intense dedication and focus and. discipline and it's so hard to do and. you can only do it for so long you know. the elite athletes have like a 9 year. period where they could perform at the. very best until their body starts to.

fail. wow yeah so when I watch it I'm just uh. overwhelmed by that and I just don't. have the time to be watching golf or you. know baseball and is there a certain. country that is rising out of MMA where. you're like wow I didn't know that I. mean I know Jiu Jitsu in Brazil but like. is there a certain country where you're. like you know Russia's kicking ass. Russia's kicking ass a lot of the guys. from Dagestan are [ __ ] incredible but. it's it's a function of like what do. they start out training they they start.

out training in [ __ ] which is a Russian. martial art and and Jiu Jitsu and boxing. and wrestling at a very early age and. they're also encouraged to do it there's. a lot of competition there. and it's also a hard life it's a hard. part of the world like the dangerous. part of the world is it so like is it a. parts of Russia that is uh a minority. group within the Russian Federation. because it wasn't the the I think there.

was a Muslim guy that you know well. there's quite a few Muslim guys yeah I. think you're Russian yeah there's quite. a few yeah khabib numbered off yeah it. was one of the greatest of all times. he's a guy from Dagestan who's a Muslim. a very devout religious guy and I think. that discipline from people because. that's in that chaotic area of Armenia. right. um Pakistan it's in Russia or is it near. is it near. um. uh where uh the uh where they had the.

Winter Olympics and where uh the. caucuses it is the see there's Armenia. Dagestan is right there yeah so like I. think that's a war-torn area I think. that's like debated like is it Georgia. or is it Azerbaijan right. now is that technically Russia or is it. well that's the I used to be a part of. the Soviet Union I think I think that. like well they it's. officially the Republic of Dagestan is a.

republic of Russia situated in the north. caucus of Eastern Europe along the. Caspian Sea hard people hard people some. of the greatest come out of Dagestan and. some of the most interesting and and. exciting prospects come out of that part. of the world so fast I mean Armenia is. fast Armenia has a ton of great Fighters. you go to like Jerusalem right there's. like the Jewish quarter the Muslim. quarter. uh and then there's the Armenian quarter.

like the Armenians are so fascinating. like they were like the first to embrace. uh Christianity and uh just like they. were like all in it's really I mean it's. just fascinating because like they and. then the history of like them dealing. with the Turks and it's just amazing. yeah and there's a lot of great Armenian. Fighters that have fought in MMA and.

then kickboxing as well they're. voracious readers too. um they're big readers yeah anyway I'm. pro-armani I am too I love Armenians. yeah I listen to love Armenians in La. they were refreshingly masculine yeah. you know this is like open about it I. loved it it's because La is so you know. for lack of a better term I don't want. to say feminize because I don't think. feminine is negative but you know. there's so many men that are just. [ __ ] no I remember going to La during. pilot season with my uh wife who was my.

girlfriend at the time and we had a. thing. is that guy gay or from LA. and you know obviously we have tons of. friends that are gay but are always like. I don't know if he's gay or if he's just. from L.A yeah yeah. Metro but that was probably like in the. 2000s so I don't know if that's and. there's all kinds of people to run this. crazy world Jim Gaffigan I love you I do. too. we should probably wrap this up um. you're special yeah.

look at that dark pale how many have you. done now this is my 10th [ __ ] yeah right. and where'd you film this one in Tampa. nice and uh Amazon Prime you've done. more than one on Amazon Prime you like. doing it over there I you know some of. it is just where the. you know the offer some of it was the. timing that Netflix wanted to do and. then honestly you know uh Prime offered. me more money but like I also think it's.

good to mix it up I think so too I mean. I totally learned that out of necessity. but. you know the landscape is changing so. much I don't know uh and you know I was. talking to Marin and he loves you know. he did one on Max or HBO Max at the time. and so it is good to mix it up I mean I. love Netflix but I think it's good for a. guy like you to the Google wherever you. want yeah so did for a guy like you it's. kind of a standard Setter you could just. do whatever you want and if you go there.

it's like it's good for comedy in. general yeah and I think it's. it is also it's fascinating to see how. big these platforms are you know to well. Amazon is everyone has Amazon on their. phone anyone who can everyone else. delivered you got amazon.com you can. watch it yeah yeah it's just a matter of. like letting people know and then when. you have great shows like Mrs maisel. where people start watching it because. of that and then the terminal list like. Amazon has a lot of great shows now yeah. there's just again you were talking.

about this there's so much content yeah. and sometimes you find out about it. later on and you're like oh I didn't. even realize yeah and then sometimes the. first season's amazing and the second. season is garbage yep because it's hard. it's hard it's really hard yeah it is uh. listen we're gonna have some fun tonight. thanks buddy I'm excited that you're. gonna come through Mothership I'm very. excited. good to see you my friend thank you. thank you always appreciate you my. pleasure all right bye everybody.

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