Joe Rogan Experience #2013 - Paul Rosolie

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day hey Mar come here buddy this is uh. one of the rare times that Marshall has. been in studio during the show come here. Papa say hi to. everybody buddy he's the best he is the. best they're the best dogs they're like. universally sweet dogs they're they're.

they're such sweethearts I just I love. that like my dogs I can literally take a. piece of meat out of their mouth and. they'll be like is something better. coming like they're just they're so. friendly just there's no like worry. about protecting themselves or survival. they're just my friend calls them love. sponges it's the best way to describe. them yeah they're perfect Creations hang. out with us we're going to be in here um. so dude first of all I'm I'm in your. book right now I just started it it's. it's insane how the [ __ ] did you even.

get the idea to do what you did how does. this take me through take me through the. first like seeds of the thoughts that. had you go to the Amazon uh when I was a. kid I like I I remember I remember very. far back I remember being a kid and like. going to the Bron zoo and looking they. had they had an exhibit I think it was. in like the house of reptiles where. there's all these scientists and they're. holding like a giant snake and they're. they're doing res research and they're. they're protecting these places and so I. always had it in my head that like I. want to see these places before they're.

gone I grew up with a lot of like. environmental stress I really felt like. this message of like we're losing the. rainforest we're losing elephants I was. like I just how did you how did you. develop that feeling I don't know I mean. my my my parents would you know read me. Jane Goodall's books as a kid and again. things like the Bronx Zoo Steve. Irwin um you know and I loved I grew up. you know and having access to like New. York and New Jersey there's such. incredible Forest there at around it's. really the New York New Jersey Forest.

thing it's like people for whatever. reason don't live around there they. think New Jersey is like some vast. Wasteland like New Jersey is like more. bears per capita than anywhere else in. the country yeah yeah no wild amazing. forest there I grew up like you know and. then like you by like 13 years old I was. like you know I had like a hunting knife. and I would do one match and I'd bring. my golden retriever into the into the. woods and we'd do like a mini solo two. nights you know and I have to make a. fire with that one match and I was like. I was always doing [ __ ] like this like. so you always had like a call to that.

kind of life I always just River streams. Forest tracking bears trying to figure. out where the where the fox's whole is. like I liked spending time with animals. in nature and then like it just drove me. crazy that no matter how deep I would go. you know in eastern forests you always. like come out the other side and I. always was just like I want to find. somewhere where it's like truly wild. like where there's no limit to it like. what's what's the max what's the highest. you can turn this thing and I was ter. terrible in school failed all my classes.

severely dyslexic all that and so I D. actually my wonderful parents were like. do you do know that you can take a GED. skip the last two years of high school. and go straight to college and I was. like I did not know that so I did that. and then as I was doing that I just said. you know what I was like I'm going to go. to the Amazon rainforest I had a a. professor that showed me a piece of wood. and he made a joke like oh this is. probably like teak from the Amazon and. like I was like oh yeah I was like I got. to get down there before it's too. late that's what it was that is what it. was I got to get down there before it's.

too late yeah I mean it's like they're. telling you that there's Jurassic Park. there's literally Anaconda dragons in. these in these monster swamps and. there's Harpy eagles taking howler. monkeys and there's all this incredible. bustling life and it's all Vanishing I. was like I want to see it before it's. gone you're the greatest show on Earth. like and so how much of an understanding. did you have about the Amazon about how. to get around how to it it seems like. you just kind of just dove in I I I did. dive in I I found the most remote. research station I could find and of.

course nobody wants to take it like a. 17-year-old kid from from Brooklyn from. New Jersey and and put them in the. rainforest I had no. qualifications but I I I went with. people that were doing research on Maca. and I was out there for weeks at a time. but the the the luck was that I met this. guy named JJ Wan hulio Duran local sa. High Indian grew up in the forest. Barefoot and the the dude has libraries. of information in in his brain medicinal. plants how to track animals places in.

the forest that nobody knows about and. then he just started he was just like. you're funny you really love this [ __ ]. he's like let's go out all night we. don't come back until we find three. snakes he was terrified of snakes he's. like let's go find three snakes because. he was like why why why does this Gringo. keep catching snakes he's like what the. hell is matter with you and so he was. teaching me everything and then I was. just like look dude this is how you fig. this like this is how you do snakes this. is how you figure out if they're. venomous this is how you handle a snake. I could teach him one thing he taught me. the entire Amazon rainforest.

so he didn't know I mean he must have. known like what venomous snakes there. were right no because what they'll do is. they'll be like oh that red one it's. venomous they chop it in half that's not. how you identify a snake that's like. saying like every you know it's like. identifying cars by color like it. doesn't make any sense okay right it's. it's with snakes you can have like for. example like an Amazon Tree Boa you can. have one mother giving birth to like a. rainbow of babies they'll be like gray. ones green ones yellow ones like all. these different morphs and so people. will be like oh those those ones they'll.

get you those are coral snakes like no. you know I just it's it's a constant. battle with you know with the locals I'm. always like do you think this is. venomous or not and they're like hm and. I'm like would I be holding it if it was. venomous and they're like oh yeah no. that's crazy that they don't know but I. guess it's like safer to assume that. they're all venomous or anything bright. colored is venomous yeah and again the. jungle is a place where there's a lot of. stories and so like you always hear. stories about like who got bitten by a. snake and this happened who got you know.

and so like they have the snake Loro. Macho which is they know it's a green. snake that's all that like the average. logger or the average Gold Miner knows I. was just like literally two weeks ago I. was out in the jungle and I was out and. it was raining and there was a Loro. Macho next to my head with flicking its. tongue next to my head and I was like oh. cool I was like I got to bring this back. and show them so I very carefully caught. this Viper and brought it back and they. were like that's not it that's the Bowa. and I was like oh God I like I can't. help you people I like I'm literally. showing it to you but the the rule is. just kill every snake and so I've always. been like this like Ambassador for.

snakes trying to get people to be like. you know you have black snakes and. gopher snakes and garter snakes and you. show them to kids snakes are wonderful. like I love snakes they're part of the. whole ecosystem especially in something. as complex as the Amazon I mean you know. when I I lived in the Hollywood Hills. people would always complain about. coyotes yeah I'd say yeah yeah yeah but. how many rats do you see yeah you don't. see a lot of rats re reason for that the. coyotes are the cleanup system um yeah. later I got to show you the video I took.

yesterday the day before yesterday. coyote walking through my front yard in. New York in the middle of the day. they're everywhere now they're. everywhere it's wild big one have you. ever read Coyote America uh no it's a. really good book by this guy Dan Flores. he's been on the podcast a couple of. times he was my friend Steve's professor. in college and uh he stayed in touch. with this guy and he's a wildlife. historian and he wrote a book about. coyotes and it's the story is insane. like coyotes they're originally. persecuted by the Grey Wolves The Grey.

Wolves were extrait and and killed off. by the people that settled and then. coyotes when they were Pro when they. were persecuted what they would do is. expand their range yeah so they're in. every single City in every state now and. that's only over the last few decades I. mean the fact I mean I think in a lot of. places you can hunt a coyote like. Daytime Nighttime anything anytime with. like any it does the opposite of what. it's intended to do because when you. kill a coyote then the females when they. do roll call they realize a coyote's.

missing and they have more pups yeah. yeah it's a wild animal no it's a really. it's a really am no they're crazy this. one comes trotting across my front yard. every day and it's like I went I open my. front door and I went woo and he just. stopped and looked at me and I just like. took a picture on my phone wow yeah it. was crazy New York City. coyotes it's an amazing animal but so so. when you went down there what kind of. gear did you bring like how how prepar. prepared were you for this uh completely.

shering budget Sho string yeah student. dropped out of high school saved up. money from working at like the YMCA like. I went down there wearing jeans and a. t-shirt like did you plan on trying to. find some sort of a job like what were. we going to do for food and no so this. was the thing I went down there as a as. a as a volunteer just to experience it. you know like and then and then. basically as I became friends with JJ it. was like he was like could you could you. come back he's like you have access to. like Gringos and and people that travel. he's like bring us tourists he's like.

we're trying to protect this River like. now while it's still completely pristine. and at the time I was like well that's. that's that sounds great so I started. bringing people we started Tam and do. Expeditions and so it was like small. time just bringing some tourists to the. Jungle showing them around taking them. on night walks doing stuff like that um. but it it it it was a very much like. there wasn't a plan I knew what I loved. I didn't have a plan I wasn't like I'm. going to be a jungle keeper like I just. went down there and was like this is. amazing and I want more of it and then. you at that age people are like you know.

what are you going to do for a job and I. was like I don't know but I'm going back. to the Jungle like and then it was as. you know then as we saw more of the. forest getting destroyed as we were were. the trans Amazon Highway Cuts straight. across the Amazon rainforest you can. drive from like Rio all the way to Lima. and so for the first time in history. they opened up a land trade route. through the heart of the Amazon. rainforest and the final segment of the. trans Amazon Highway was over the Mad. Dido. river which is right where we work and.

so we saw the amount of cars in our. region go from like 400 a day to like. 800 a day to 2,000 a day and all of a. sudden these offshoot roads and all of a. sudden the burning and all of a sudden. places that used to be pristine and wild. all of a sudden we're seeing this. horrific burning ancient trees cut down. entire ecosystems wiped out and so then. at that point I'm going okay it's not a. joke anymore we someone's got to do. something about this and then you know. you look and you realize you're in the. middle of the Amazon Rain far as there. is no one there's no help coming like.

these these ecosystems are going to be. bulldozed if nobody does. anything. so what regulations if any are in. obviously there's people that are going. to violate those but are there. regulations that are designed to protect. those areas is there is there like some. sort of a process that someone has to go. through before they start cutting logs. like the the thing is there's national. parks there's protected areas there's. indigenous reserves I mean we're in the. country of Peru and it's like there.

there's plenty there's a lot of. protected land Peru has done an amazing. job of protecting a lot of its. rainforest they have the most crucial. part of the Amazon because it's the. Western Amazon it's where the Andes. Mountains the cloud forest into the. lowland Amazon the most Mega biodiverse. terrestrial habitat that's ever existed. wow they've done a great job of. protecting it but there's still millions. of Acres that are just jungle and you're. at the edge of human presence on our. planet so you're talking about like okay. so you have a a little city and you have. the police and you have the Forestry.

Department you have whatever else the. things around the city they can deal. with but if you tell them that 2 days up. River way out there there's somebody. cutting some Forest that technically. shouldn't be cut they don't care they're. not going to put resources towards going. out they're not they're not going to. risk getting shot they're not going to. risk getting you know bitten by a. Bushmaster while they travel out into. the jungle it's just not on anybody's. radar so unless it's near them unless. it's in their jurisdiction nobody does. anything and as we've as we found out. now even when it is in their.

jurisdiction half the Forestry. Department just got arrested in Peru for. actually helping the loggers they had. sort of like. infiltrated um yeah and then of course. down there you still have uncontacted. tribes and you have places where there's. giant anacondas and you have different. territorial reserves it's just like it's. such a weird landscape that the idea of. like enforcement like when we've had. problems when we've had issues where we. have to bring law enforcement out there. we have to bring them out there like we. have to get the boat the gasoline the.

food provide them with you know it's. like we have to like basically take them. on a tourist trip out into the jungle. and then be like now go do police work. it's very difficult and so like when. when you hear this stuff you know like. which like again we actually we have to. have to eventually we have to tell we. have to tell the people this story um. how we got here how did like what made. you reach out to me when you did well um. I had seen a a clip of yours that we. talked about what was the clip so that. was the that was the 2019 clip that was.

when the the Amazon fires went Mega. viral mhm. and excuse me I I threw up a video of me. in the fires just like screaming and. crying and being like this is happening. every [ __ ] day and scream and it went. viral it went viral and at that time we. had created jungle Keepers and we had. tried to protect so we had a little bit. of rainforest we were protecting I think. we had like one or two Rangers and then. you shared it on your Instagram. and then it hit this level it like went.

to the next level of virality I remember. my cousin Michael called me and he was. just like Joe Rogan just shared it I was. like that's that's not there's no way. that happened and he's like no it did. and the the amount of attention that we. got from that led to eventually people. reaching out um this guy daxa Silva. reached out and he was like Hey listen. you guys every year with the burning. forest and the loss of habitat he's like. I want to help what can we do what is. what is what what do you need to make. this work how do we save this ring for.

there it is yeah that's that's the clip. yeah where go welcome to the [ __ ]. anthropos. scine. Jes and what what puts those fires out. do people actively try to put those. fires out or they just wait till it. rains no the people start them that's. that's the funny thing is it is it I'm. not going to be able to stay here long. because this fire is spreading but. everything behind me right now is the. forest that I've been working to protect.

for the last 133 years it's burning like. this every day there are literally. millions of animals in this Forest that. cannot Escape right now and if you think. our planet can survive this every day in. the Amazon you have another thing coming. we have all the resources to protect. this to stop what's happening behind me. right now and people let it happen every. day welcome to the [ __ ] anthropos. scene so when they're starting these. fires to make clear Cuts so they can. raise cattle like what are they doing. yeah it's it's it's basically the. there's space so we're going to use it.

and so like ideally a person if they. wanted to use that Forest you could. harvest the the ancient Hardwoods there. and make millions off of it you could. use that Forest to do like multi-tiered. agriculture where you're producing tons. of of of produce these are people that. are coming in they're just clear cutting. the forest they're planting like cacao. papaya grass for cows like it's it's. literally burning down your house to to. cook a a meal and who owns that land. well that's the thing a lot of it is.

indigenous land a lot of it is that they. call it like brazilnut concessions where. it's just like areas where like you're. supposed to be harvesting Brazil nuts. but a lot of times it is private land. but people there there's people coming. from other parts of South America and. they're just coming in and they're. clearing these areas and it's happening. fast and no one is there to protect. there's just not enough resources to. keep an eye on it's just the vastness of. it all there there's a there's a vacuum. in conservation there's a problem with. conservation no one's going to pay you.

to go protect to go out into the wildest. places on Earth and protect these things. like for the most part it's very. difficult you can go get a job as a. conservation biologist you can go um. study things academically but to to go. and actively do the work of protecting a. rainforest or protecting a marine area. that's sensitive that's crucial to. species it's very difficult and so. that's why that that whole story was so. important was because I was you know by. that point I was like 14 years into. doing this with no support no funding no.

backing no nothing it was just me and. the local guys machetes and bare feet. and then after that video went viral. after you shared it we got contacted by. Dax and then he basically was like look. I'm he started a company called light. speed and then he transitioned into. conservation and so now he's helping the. sea sheeper and he's helping The Nature. Conservancy in Canada and he jungle. Keepers was his first project and all of. a sudden we could actually do it and so. now these local people who used to be. loggers and gold miners we were like yo. do you want a job protecting this.

forest and so like guys had been cutting. wood for like the last 15 years guys had. been like fighting the uncontacted. tribes all of a sudden we were like do. you want to just like you know help us. Patrol just protect it do nothing and. they're like do nothing and we get paid. and. benefits and it's and it's a huge. success like we were protecting 50,000. Acres now millions and millions of. heartbeats in there like spider monkeys. troops of giant River roders Jaguars har. Eagles I mean just more biodiversity. than you could.

list and we need to protect 300,000 I. need to protect 300,000 acres in the. next year because now there's like. Chinese Machinery coming in where. they're coming in with those those giant. Earth moving things that like take out. the trees yeah and so it's just like. this this Race Against Time because we. have this incredible Treasure Trove of. biological incredible wealth Med. medicine's running through every every. one of these things I mean there's. there's there's you go out with the. local people and if if you have. something wrong with you there's a sap.

for that they can cure an ear infection. they can cure whatever it is if they. want to go fishing in the Stream they. have barbasco they have a root that they. can Crush throw it in the Stream it'll. stun the fish you take the ones you want. you take it out and the other fish will. swim away it's like they have a pharmacy. that we don't have access to yeah that. fish thing is wild my friend Rella did. that yeah how do they say those the guys. names from Guyana Yano mamy yeah the. Yano mamy yeah he went with them and. they they did that thing with the fish. where they grind up the plants and they. throw it in the water and the fish just.

get conked out yeah pretty wild it's. like magic it's like magic it's like a. cheat cod in the video game so this is a. dangerous proposition right because. clearly the people that are moving into. these areas they're they want to burn. things down and grow things and someone. who gets in the way of this is getting. the way of their financial success yeah. in in the case of gold mining um there's. there's a picture in there Jamie I think.

it just says gold mining I went down. there with uh Matt Gutman and we did a. thing where we got into the gold mining. areas where that's a whole other thing. where they're they're clear cutting the. rainforest for gold money that's like. this that's the Western Amazon wow so. they just got it it there is a sandstorm. behind me in that picture and they are. that's the Amazon rainforest and there's. a desert there now wow you can see it. from space. wow and so yeah you go there this. there's like sort of this machine gun. limit where you know you drive towards.

this area and then they have guards and. inside there they have these see there's. that big hose going out they have to cut. the forest burn the forest suck up the. land and then the gold comes in the. sediment in the sand and so they have to. use mercury to bind the gold out of the. sand and then they burn that off which. then is going into the atmosphere and. raining back down I mean this is like. this is this is horrendous and the. police can't stop it because you have to. go in there with like the military the. police will just get killed if they go. over there oh my God God so yeah we got. we got in there this one day with some.

Russian gold miners it was very strange. and actually uh you got in there to. investigate we got in there to we we we. went in there with with with Matt. gutman's crew and we actually we. actually filmed in the gold mining areas. which no one does and while we were in. there one of the Russian gold miners was. like hey man listen he goes you're. you're that guy with the Instagram right. and I was like what the [ __ ] are you. talking about and he goes you see those. guys over there and I was like yeah and. he goes they just said your name and I. was like oh and then uh yeah like a week.

later those guys pulled up and it was. annoying cuz the guy like acted like he. had a gun but he didn't show me and he. was like hey no more posts about gold. mining and I was like the the gold. miners follow me on social media like. are you [ __ ] serious like but no that. that area is dangerous our that had to. be terrifying um yeah I mean for a. second I was like is this is this is it. happening right um cuz the way they. pulled up you know I was like walking on. the street and they like they like you. know cut me off you know and they were. like hey Paul Rosy and I was like.

oh and uh our lawyer or the guy that. used to be the lawyer for Jungle Keepers. um his father was very vocal locally. about the gold miners and standing up to. them they just whacked them just that. easy no consequences no no consequences. a really good friend of mine on the. river um his father had moved out deep. into the jungle like 20 years ago and. raised his two boys out there and then. when this trans Amazon Highway came. through. uh they saw the logging and the burning.

and you know they wanted to live at the. edge of the world they wanted to be deep. in the jungle and so uh old man Sato was. like you know we're going to we got to. figure something out either move deeper. or move away or whatever and like they. were trying to figure out what to do and. there was this one summer I spent a lot. of time with his son his name was also. Paul and uh he got he got murdered by. gold miners. too and so like it's just like a it's. just a war zone and then and then you. have some of our some of our guys now. who are conser aists who used to be.

loggers who have shot at the uncontacted. tribes and been shot at by arrows one of. my Rangers has a scar on his head from a. S foot Arrow from the uncontacted tribes. there's a picture of that too I think it. says uncontacted IGN foot Arrow yeah so. they use the river cane and then they. take bamboo and they get an incredible. Edge on the bamboo and they can it's. like they temper it over the fire so the. river cane doesn't weigh anything so. they make these monster arrows and they. can actually like nail a spider monkey.

out of the trees from like you know 40 m. really yeah so check this out so this is. one of my Rangers um ignasio he's he's. local indigenous and uh and that's the. scar in his head from the arrow yeah he. was trying so the uncontacted came out. and they were pretty fresh you're going. to have a scar in your head that's. that's a good spot that looks good yeah. someone's got a picture of it when it. happened but he was he was saying they. were trying to they were trying to push. bananas cuz these people don't know you. know these people are out there and. they're naked and they're in the jungle. and they've been there for you know a. few hundred years and he was there and.

he was actually working for the ministry. of culture and he was like let me try. and be friendly let me try and like. extend an olive branch and so he was. trying to push a boatload of bananas. towards them and the scariest thing was. they were they didn't want anyone to. understand them and so they were. actually speaking in capuchin monkey. monkey calls and he's out in the midd. he's Brave this guy and he went out to. the middle of the river and he pushed. this thing and he said he saw the Arrow. coming straight at his eyeball and he. just moved his head to the side and it. just gave him that cut him right to the. skull whoa yeah there's that one and.

then there should be one more where he's. just looking right at us but um yeah. he's he's uh he's lucky he's really. lucky he's got worse stories than that. too um one time he was he was at a. remote guard poost and the the tribes. came and he'd already gotten I think. he'd already gotten shot and he said he. went up into the roof and like hid in. the rafters like and wrapped himself and. he said it was the middle of the day and. he was baking and he said he could hear. the the uncontacted tribes Underneath. Him. and he was like trying to make the.

decision of do I kill myself like a dog. in a car in this heat like he knew he. was going to die or do I go down and let. them rip me apart and it was like it was. just the most terrifying story but yeah. like that how did he get out of it he. waited it out I mean he' already been. shot in the head so he was like I know. what's going to happen if I go down. there wow also then I'm also going to. get I'm going to get everyone's going to. come after me for calling them. uncontacted apparently that's an. outdated term apparently the correct. parlament these days is voluntarily. isolated indigenous no.

persons let's stick with uncont can we. just call them uncont [ __ ] you man [ __ ]. you for making me remember all that [ __ ]. it's so silly um yeah uncontacted is not. a prora no it's just and and then people. like well they technically have contact. if they shot your friend and I'm like. yeah well sort of I guess I guess. peripheral sure it's um it's got to be. horrifying for them right I mean if. they've been there for thousands and. thousands of years living like that and.

then slowly but surely they see this. encroachment of machines and how much. they understand of this Western culture. that's infringing upon them I don't it's. weird because these guys they they don't. have they don't have boats and so like. they don't have like the wheel like all. these like simple inventions like. they've just they don't they don't work. with metal and so I believe that the. current theory says now that basically. these people were living extremely. isolated around the time of the. Industrial Revolution they were already.

very remote and then when you had the. demand for rubber the Amazon was the. only place that you could get rubber and. Henry Ford found out when he did. fordlandia you can't make a plantation. out of rubber it'll get Leaf blight and. die so the only way to get rubber was to. start a full-scale genocide where they. sent down these rubber baronss that beat. and whipped the native people and sent. them out into the jungle to go collect. rubber from the rubber trees for gaskets. and hoses and everything that we needed. these are the people that fought these.

are the people that remained uncon. unconquered stayed back further in the. deepest parts of the forest and so you. think these people's grandparents. grandparents must tell them that those. Outsiders will set you on fire they will. skin you alive if you see one of them. kill it before it kills you so they must. be just running scared. wow it is really fascinating that. there's still people living essentially. the exact same way they were living. thousands and thousands of years ago.

yeah they have a couple of machetes that. they stole off some friends of mine like. they sacked this Village one time and. they took pots and machetes they killed. all the animals um yeah they're they're. they're very strange to deal with like. like there was a guy who had started. leaving them like bananas and then he. left them like a shirt you know like he. would just very carefully because they. don't they can't speak they don't speak. Spanish they don't even speak like pero. like or anything like um or Y is the the. the dialect that we deal with on our. River and um they murdered him too and.

like he was friends with them for a few. years and no one has an exp I just spoke. to a eminent Anthropologist about this I. was like what was the reason for that. and he was like no one knows so he had. made some sort of contact with them and. was things and was he in contact. physically with them uh I think like he. he would be in the same space like he. could have spoken to them if he could. speak to them but I think it was sort of. like a like I leave you this and then I. back up and then they would come forward. and then you know it would be like this. very very careful exchange and that went.

on for a few years and then everyone was. like oh there's this guy and he's been. able to develop this it was like it was. special you know it wasn't it wasn't um. it wasn't in any way it wasn't like a. Bravado thing it was like he was. actually trying to be like can we make. friends with these people can can we can. we make a relationship here maybe bring. them in maybe do they want to come in. are they scared do they need help maybe. we could just help them with some stuff. um and then they found him with seven. foot arrows in him.

so yeah no explanation no one knows no. explanation so yeah the the one time. that I saw them I ran for three days I. like ran down river I jumped in my boat. I went all night I just I absolutely I. realized I'd gone I'd made a wrong turn. and ended up somewhere I shouldn't have. been and I was completely alone CU then. that was after the the the learning days. and the jungle Keepers days came the. days where the locals were like okay so. you know the jungle like start going out. on your own see if see if you could. really do it Go survive and I and I. personally. wanted to see if I could experience.

living I wanted to know it's like it's. like being told you can go to Mars and. walk around all by yourself whoa when. you're out in the Amazon for a week by. yourself and you're camping on a beach. and you wake up and you walk up River. and you camp on a beach and you wake. up to. me it was almost like the world melted. away it was like uh that Will Smith. movie where you're the last person on. Earth it's like you you you are in this. jungle Paradise where there's Maca and. there's Jaguars and the Animals up there.

don't know what a human is it's like the. galpagos you are in a place where. animals are unfamiliar with the shape of. a human so they don't. mind and there's giant anacondas like. it's different it's different out there. there are still places where from. Century to Century nobody goes and the. animals have no idea when you're out. there it gets it gets really freaky like. I noticed my brain losing touch with. like like I would start to get worried. like like it was this just my reality. now could I go back you know you're so.

far out there and the Amazon's friendly. the Amazon's not the the jungle itself. there's nothing that's going to eat you. a Jag's not going to eat you and unless. you go swimming in a lake at night a. black cman or an anaconda is not going. to mess with you and it's like piranha. tastes good they actually you know. that's like how you survive so it's like. it's pretty chill as a Wilderness. experience until something goes wrong. until you get a big thunderstorm and the. river Rises 20 ft and there's entire. trees as thick as school buses flying. down river and in the Rapids then then. you're in trouble that was one of the.

scary things about your book the way you. described that when trees fall that. they're so intertwined that acres of. land might fall yeah yeah I everyone has. what's the most dangerous thing in the. Amazon is it the snakes is it the. Jaguars it's like dude ja you don't even. see a Jaguar when you hear a pop like. that big cannon shot pop where like an. old tree Pops in the you run you run. because when that comes down it's laced. into the canopy with the other trees and. so it's going to pull down other things.

I was with loggers one time and they. were cutting a tree and it was going to. go that way so we were standing behind. it and you know I'm always like okay I. got to document this I got to document. this and so this tree is going to fall. away from us and this tree is probably. about as thick as this room and this. tree you know talking about 160 foot. tree and this tree starts falling. over and it grabs another tree and we. all realized it at the same time but the. other tree broke and snapped in our. Direction and there's like a 30 foot. Shard of Timber like a [ __ ] oak tree. flying at us and we all just scattered.

and then all like it was just like the. world ended there was there's Vines and. giant things coming down entire entire. trees falling out of the sky and flying. and splinters it was. cataclysmic like it was it was out of. control I would never ever ever stand. that close to a tree falling in the. Amazon again I put a GoPro on it and run. away. wow Jesus. Christ I would argue that that's crazier. than the moon you know like you said. going to the moon or going to Mars and. running around there's nothing on Mars.

you're just going to see a bunch of dirt. it's going to be sad it's going to be. like going to the the Death Valley yeah. but there's no people ever yeah it's. just nothing what you're seeing is. almost more crazy cuz there's so much. life and it's so alien to you you know. it's nature and it's a part of the earth. that we live on but it's not a part of. the earth that we live on where humans. are so it's that's why it's so. fascinating and unique about the. rainforest it it's so wild and so like. that's where like our thing with you.

know even with the anacondas it was like. you know it started with the snakes and. they'd be like you know teach us about. the snakes snakes and then after a while. I was like guys where are the anacondas. you know like this is supposed to be the. Amazon where the hell are they yeah and. so they're like well once a year we go. on these like Hunting Expeditions up. River so they're like come with us and. there was this family of Brothers JJ has. like 17 brothers and they're like come. with us and it's literally just a Dugout. of canoe like a little you know 16. horsepower motor and you just you go up. for 10 days 12 days to places where you.

go where are we and they're like no no. no it doesn't have a name we're just on. River you're just out and so you know we. hunting and fishing and we're just like. surviving off the land going up the. thing and then we started catching the. anacondas basking on the sides of the. river and so we just started jumping on. these snakes grabbing them by the neck. the first one I did I [ __ ] up though. the first Anaconda I ever. caught the first Anaconda I ever caught. I really [ __ ] up because I was like. okay I know how to catch snakes I've. handle big snakes I know what I'm doing. you know they were going to come in from.

the bottom I was going to come in from. the top I ran in and I grabbed the snake. by the head and she went and wrapped my. hands and my wrists are together and I. was like oh [ __ ] oh no I was like now I. can't get out of this if I wanted to and. the next coil came over my. shoulders and it's a 200 lb snake so. some on my knees and so I'm I I went to. Scream JJ and all I got I got nothing. out and so I'm sitting there wrapped in. an anaconda with my clavicle like. turning into a v my shoulders were. almost touching and I could feel my ribs.

just about to go oh boy and three of my. friends jumped on they started untying. it from the tail and everything like. that but I came that close like I oh boy. I really [ __ ] up oh boy look at the. size of that thing is that the one that. is not the one that is oh look at the. size of that thing and that's not even. that's not even as big as I get how big. is that one that one is 18' 6. in big that's so big this one this is. the largest uh scientifically wild.

caught verified Anaconda that we have. wow in scientific literature I mean. there's people have records of bigger. ones I've seen bigger ones um this is we. named her Eleanor after my grandmother. that's the 18 foot one this is the 18. fe6 in she was 220 pounds but she was. hungry she was look at the size of that. thing yeah my God yeah so if if that one. that got a hold of you that's not this. one it's a different one no that the one. that got a hold of me was you know 5T. shorter than this one this this this. this thing is a dragon this thing is.

like the Kraken there's no way no what. how big do they get that's JJ by the way. I keep talking about um okay so here's. my measurement um and actually somebody. recently sent me a video of you in uh. Forest galante yeah talking about this. about how big Canon anacon to get me and. JJ were out on this place called The. Floating Forest one night. and you know I was trying to like I was. thinking about like getting on the cover. of National Geographic I was thinking. about like you know getting attention at. that time right and and uh but we we we. had gone deeper down the Amazon Rabbit.

Hole than like anyone had ever gone we. found this place the floating Forest. where you're walking on on rafts of. floating grass and you're walking past. Treetops so there's a forest underneath. the lake but you're walking on the. surface of it and the anacondas love it. wow because they can sit on these on. these grassy islands and if anything. comes the whole thing is like a giant. tanic membrane as soon as something. takes a step they're like threat and. they go down and just like any big fish. just like any ancient giant crocodile.

those shrewd old [ __ ] that have. been there for a century they that's. where they live and so we were out there. at like 2:00 in the morning and we're. walking on these grassy rafts and JJ's. going this is Anaconda and I went that. is not Anaconda because the the grass. was pushed down but it was like it was. this big and I was like this this can't. be Anaconda he's going this is he goes. if it was a crocodile he goes you'd see. the you know the feet and I was like it. just can't be and then at like middle of. the night. the stars are shining in the in the the.

black water and everything and we're by. the tops we're in the canopy of a forest. on top of a lake and we see two. anacondas one of them is so big that I. would say it was probably 24 25 ft. gigantic that was an 18f footer then. there was like another like a 16-footer. on it and my first response was we have. to catch this snake and so I jumped on. it I just didn't think about it I just. jumped on the. snake oh my God and and so the snake and. you know I always say like you know pix.

or it didn't happen but this was the. middle of the night I jumped on the. snake and as I'm holding it the one. measurement I have is that I was holding. on to the snake and my fingers couldn't. touch that's how that's how big this. thing was and so it D what it dragged me. to the edge of the grass what that big. oh my God oh my God your fingers. couldn't touch yeah so like I oh my God. oh my. God dude that's so big it's so [ __ ]. big and people said oh did it eat.

something and it's like no that was that. was the that was how big the snake was. and I know because when she got to the. edge to the edge of the grass I dipped. in head for this snake could have turned. around and just eaten me she didn't her. head was like bigger than a Rottweiler. it's bigger than Marshalls oh my god um. but she dove into the water her idea is. just Escape you know stay alive so she. goes down and I my face poked into the. water and I was like [ __ ] that you know. you start you look straight down into. hell down there and I was sitting there. holding on to the grass with this giant. anaconda rushing by me you know 25 ft of.

anaconda slithering past me and I put my. hand on her and as she went by my hand. eventually went and then her tail. slipped by me and I was. just just alone in the dark in the. Amazon and I just seen this dragon and. then I turned around and went what the. [ __ ] happened to. JJ and JJ's just standing there and he. turned completely white and he was just. his circuits were blown he was like and. I was like you could have helped I was. like you could have helped man so can. you just help me out here so the the the.

Treetops essentially there's water under. the Treetops so you're walking on the. Treetops so how deep is the water below. you like 30 40 ft so you're you're. essentially walking on grassy Islands. floating vegetation is it like the in. this video is it the same similar. terrain so yes and and thank you for not. playing the sound on this cuz but yeah. it's basically exactly like this it's. see those islands over there yeah. there's floating grass and so this is. actually how we.

caught the big one um you know every. everyone starts JC J see JJ J JJ has. unlocked everything JJ's like there's an. Anaconda there's an anaconda nobody else. saw it and then I'm the only person. that's willing to [ __ ] with the head and. so they they get the boats this is. literally how we caught the biggest. anaconda that's ever been caught we the. camera guy I was like get the [ __ ] out. of here and I just remember In This. Moment being like do I really want to do. this do I really like did I do I really. want to do what I signed up to do do you.

see it in the grass I can see it here I. can see it here and I'm I'm just going. please I wish can I can I can I turn. back and so for the people just. listening you're standing on the edge of. the boat you jump off into the grass and. you. run and and thankfully I have a GoPro on. yep and then you see there's my team. boom boom boom everybody jumping in so. we had all these people that have all. handled big snakes before coming in. and see I don't have the head we didn't.

have the head JJ had the tail JJ got the. tail this guy yonas had the tail Mosen. had the tail Lee had the tail. everybody's holding on to the snake. we're using the boat to keep ourselves. up and then I got the head whoa and then. as soon as I get the. head I know I'm GNA get wrapped again oh. my God I mean this is like look at this. this is. like and this is the 18f footer yeah. this is the 18f footer so look at the. size of this thing yeah so when people. like why don't you catch the 25 footer. I'm like well the difference in just.

like I'm seeing how big this is It's. unbelievably big and the idea that. something was almost 10 foot bigger than. this yeah and much thicker around much. much thicker around this girl was skinny. oh my god um yeah in a second in a. second they'll show us walking with her. that is so wild and you get a sense of. really how big she is but and you got to. keep a hold of that that [ __ ] swallow. your. head look at it look at what is that. feeling like where you're holding on to.

the head of that thing yeah no it's. completely completely wild and it was. just I honestly in that moment it was. like you want your best friends there. cuz man that was that was scary that was. very scary and so what is the plan what. do you do with this once you capture it. do you measure it and then let it go. yeah so for this one um here look. there's a shot there's a shot coming up. where we like we kind of have her. stretched out for a second but with this. one we put a radio transmitter down her. throat and we were able to track her. movements to learn about the home range. as a female anacon so she swallows it.

yeah it's just like a like a big pill oh. wow how. big like a Zippo lighter sure yeah look. at that look at that head oh my God look. at the teeth yeah they were like that's. the queen of the. Amazon um but yeah she was old she had. so many scars and so we measured her 18t. 6 in and then uh the friendly people at. Discovery Channel changed it to 19 ft6. in on the show which was always. interesting how dare how dare they um. that sounds like Hollywood yeah just got.

to Juice It Up just a little bit just. just a little bit just turn it up um. it's impressive enough you [ __ ] look at. that thing look at that thing it's so. immense I just can't believe there was. one that much bigger than that yeah what. is what is the folk lore like what do. they say when they say what's the. biggest one uh I mean I have people that. told me that they found a 60t. anaconda they're that that guy's a drunk. um that I think maybe he's telling the. truth ah pixer didn't happen remember.

the movie Jennifer Lopez and Ice. Cube I remember that there was one John. voy John voy had like the worst. Brazilian accent ever it didn't even. sound Brazilian I got actually watch. that movie I really feel like I should. terrible movie is it is it oh it's. terrible but it's great yeah it's like. one of those I think it was like nothing. wrong with a good bad movie I want to. say it was like 90s right oh [ __ ] what. year was that is a d. but the actual big anaconda look at the.

size of it the one that's coming behind. Ice. Cube the actual big anaconda was I think. it that I've seen that image before yeah. John vo. jeez you should hear his Brazilian. accent too it's it's crazy it doesn't. sound it doesn't even make sense wait. does he eat two people at once yeah bro. oh [ __ ] it's a movie wow one person is. not scary enough got to be tied together. somehow you and your family tied. together somehow and the snake reps so. they they say they've seen a 60 foot one.

but do they have an age limit like do. they it seems like when they get to a. certain size nothing's hunting them no. they're an apex predator disease or old. age so in the Amazon the cool thing with. the Amazon is it's the greatest natural. bad Battlefield on Earth it's literally. just this churning Death March I like. life is like a momentary stasis in this. like recycling of death and it's like. you fight for it and so and a snake. that's getting big like that one that we.

just caught like Eleanor it's like so we. learned that she moves around this swamp. and has a home range and then eventually. after a few months you know she passes. the transmitter she'll poop out the. transmitter um but one of the guys on. the team Pat is actually withing through. a Cadia University we we've we've been. continuing this and we've learned that. there are so many more anacondas than we. thought and everyone said the. traditional literature said that they're. Ambush predators that they only wait and. it's like no they're going to place. where there's mineral licks in the. Amazon and they stake out them like.

they're more strategic than we thought. oh so they wait for the animals to lick. the minerals yeah so there's places. where there's like a salt deposit and so. you'll get all the herbivores coming. there for the salt and so but the. anacondas will go upstreams and. strategically Target those places and so. I've one time we saw an anaconda eating. a pecky which is for everybody that. doesn't know it's a wild boar like a. Havalina yeah and like I I was at a. stream trying to take a picture of a. butterfly and I heard this and I look. down and there's like a 16ft anaconda. and it just bent this Peery in half and.

it was just looking at me and it was. like and then it split and so once a. snake leaves its meal it's very. unfortunate but once the snake leaves. its meal it's not going to come back to. it so the snake left because we had. gotten unknowingly we got too close so. we we had wild boore that night we just. threw it on the. barbecue wow oh speaking of eating. things Jamie could you there's a I think. it's just called monkey head I've been. dying to show you this can I ask you a. question though how old did they they. get like the one that you got that was. 18 ft how old do you think she was the.

thing is they have indeterminate growth. so you take a baby Anaconda they're live. born by the way not an eggs and so you. get you get a brand new slimy little. anaconda and they come out um and their. food for like the jabby r STS for other. Cayman for even fish um the fish are. brutal man I just I caught a baby Cayman. the other day um he had no toes because. the piranas were eating his toes off. whoa um but the Anaconda is interesting. because it's has this outsized impact on. the whole ecosystem because they start. off basically as prey they're just you.

know these little twot worms but then as. they grow then all of a sudden they can. eat bigger things then they can eat the. cay and back then they can start eating. the birds and then all of a sudden. they're eating capy Bara and then you. get to the big mamas where they're the. top of the ecosystem they're the top of. the food chain and so you have like. black cayman Anaconda Jaguar harpy eagle. giant River rers and like those you're. like you know top contenders for apex. predator in the Amazon The Harpy Eagle's. amazing what a wild looking creature. they're their talons they're so big too.

that is that the biggest eagle I don't I. don't think it's the I think the I think. the Philipine Eagle or the Stellar Sea. Eagle but the harpy is just unreasonably. large like when you see them you go that. that's that's what that is and they eat. a lot of monkeys they eat a lot of. monkeys and so one of the ways to tell. when there's a harpy eagle around like. we'll be walking through the jungle and. you just find a pile of bones because up. in that Nest 150 ft up they're just. dropping monkeys and sloths and the. babies are ripping them apart and then. they just Chuck the bones out so you'll. see like a little bone yard in the.

jungle wow yeah it doesn't last too long. cuz nothing lasts long it just keeps. recycling everything but um when I was a. kid you know in the rainforest books. they'd say 50% of the life in a. rainforest is up in the canopy and it's. like you always say like yeah [ __ ]. it is there's more stuff up there than. there is down there so when you're. walking in the Amazon you're under 150. ft of green 3% of the sunlight is. hitting the ground most of the action is. happening above you wow the birds the. monkeys the bats the snakes the frogs.

everything is moving up there there's. cactuses and Brads and Vines and it's. all interconnected and there's this. whole network the Amazon canopy keeps. changing the the like when you say how. many species are on earth and it's like. they're like we really don't know. because nobody nobody can spend time up. in the Amazon canopy there's people that. have used hot air balloons there's. people that have used giant Nets um you. can climb up with a rope but then like. you're kind of limited to one tree um I. just we just spent the last two months. Building the tallest treehouse in the.

world it's like above see can you yeah. can you do Treehouse it's it's it's. insane I slept up there for one night. look at this look at this coming out of. the Mist I just slept up there for one. night and in the. morning I couldn't believe what I saw we. woke up and it was like what they tell. you in the rainforest books it was like. there was like three species of monkeys. like 15 different species of birds there. was things just moving all over the. place there's. Tree House little it takes like 10.

minutes to walk up there that's badass. yeah apparently it's the tallest treeh. house in the world it's in the middle of. the Amazon now and we got solar how many. feet up is it I think it's about I think. the floor is about 110 ft up and how. long did it take to build this thing. couple of months took like three months. actually we brought in some expert. Treehouse Builders these guys The. Treehouse community and they that's. insane they build tree houses all over. the world but this one it was like we. had to figure out like how do you even. build a stair the staircase was half the. how do you build a staircase to get up. to the top of this tree it's amazing you.

guys did an amazing job I love it yeah. God I want to go it's beautiful yeah. there it is the solar panels that's. incredible so you get electricity up. there that's [ __ ] badass yeah yeah no. it's it's really still there right now. still there no like it just got there. you see how fresh that wood is it's like. it's not even done like um I left there. to come here you sleep there when you're. there that's your spot yeah me and my. girlfriend just slept up there and W up. my God you talk a girl going up.

there she must be an angel crazy um dude. if you if you're going to hang out with. me there's a lot of snakes a lot of. climbing imagine you got to go to the. treeh house um but now so when you wake. up in the morning and look out from. there it's got to be Insanity I mean. first of all you the sun coming up in. the East and you have like red. apocalypse beautiful like Mist coming. off the jungle and you have spider. monkeys like excited cuz that's a fig. that's a Fus and so everyone's excited. to eat so all the animals are coming to.

the Treehouse and you have like howler. monkeys spider monkeys cachin squirrel. monkeys I can't even name all the birds. for you it just take too long but. there's just it's like cacophonous like. I couldn't talk to you because we. wouldn't be able to hear each other wow. you have to scream and there's like. fruit falling on you and animals are. [ __ ] all over the place and there's. like leaf cutter ants are starting up. their day and then there's like bullet. ants [ __ ] around being like who can I. who can I take down today like it is. wild but it's like that's why we were. like okay we gotta cuz otherwise you. climb up on a rope and you're like. holding on to a branch and you look.

around and you go down this is like now. you now for you can go up there and like. take it in and it's a whole other world. it's wild and we put it like right in. the middle of the 50,000 acres and so. it's just Mega remote Wilderness and. you're actually comfortable and so you. have solar panels so do you have. batteries up there do you have like how. are you running that well one of the. guys on my team Stefan is a complete. psychopath and a intense problem solver. he put solar panels um hot water a.

bathroom so this is now this isn't just. a treehouse this is like a luxury. Treehouse a bathroom like running water. a shower whoa so you have pipes that go. down the side of the yeah yeah so. there's pipes the idea is that like you. can't bring a high volume of tourists. into a pristine rainforest and like. tourism is a major help for for helping. us protect this place so it's like we. went with like the African model like. the guys I work with in Africa at Veta. they were like you know they work on a. on a hunting reserve and the owner of. the reserve explained it to me like this.

he was like look no one's going to pay. $30,000 to take a picture of a buffalo. but they might pay $330,000 to shoot a. buffalo and that like stuck in my head. and it was like how do we how do we get. less tourists at more value and it's. like build the the tallest most remote. comfortable luxury treehouse in the. world and it's like so now so now we can. invite people up there and be like you. can like literally live stream like. Wi-Fi we got we got starlink up there we. carried some starlink out there yeah so. when you messaged me I was out there. that's how I got it I got it on starlink.

I was out in the jungle and I was like I. was like [ __ ] guys I was like I got to. go back to the US for a minute like. wow so you could have like the Ultimate. Experience going to the you could make a. bunch of those yeah and people would pay. an insane amount of money to go there. yeah I mean that's the idea so we're. going to see if it works um because. since the beginning like when I started. with JJ it was like we bring people to. the Jungle you camp out with us you live. in the tent with us and it was like the.

market for that is like really small. right there's like six people that want. to do that like nobody wants to do that. like and the people that do want to do. it ask them in the morning if they still. want to do it they don't um and so so. making it so that people can actually. come and see the Amazon reinforce in a. way that's that's like safe and bug free. and air conditioned and everything else. and it's like you can just wake up and. look at it all and it's like so it's. that it's a it's a it's an amazing thing. I can't believe that I got to sleep up. there so it's like it's it's pretty cool. that's insane.

yeah so back to the anacondas I'm trying. to figure out how old they. get they get old man I think I think. like I'm I'm I would say 70 so cuz when. you have like a ball python you talking. like 30 years or something like that but. do they know that they have a lifespan. do they know that they die of old age is. that a thing that happens with them or. they just keep going like there's some. animals that live on earth like I think. there's a shark that's older than the. United States that's still alive it's.

like a type of what is it a Greenland. shark yeah there's there's a type of. shark that's literally from like the. 1700s it's still living they also pulled. a spearhead out of a I want to say a. right whale where the same thing and. they they dated that spearhead back to. like the 1830s or something how long do. Greenland sharks lives like science. estim Greenland shark lives at least 250. years they may live over 500 years yeah. that thing is just down in the black. abyss just moving just blind just.

swimming around when our grandparents. were alive they was it was just doing. that yeah people riding horses that. thing's just swimming around the. internet comes around it's still. swimming chat GPT still swimming holy. [ __ ] yeah I I just wonder how old. anacondas get so the the folklore about. them the 60 foot ones like I wonder if. that's real wonder if they just keep. growing I I think I wouldn't be. surprised if they're well into the 30s. if you told me that somebody found a 35t. anaconda I'd be like absolutely what is. the world record that they've ever.

discovered I don't know again we have. the scientifically verified 186 is not. that big though not as big I've seen. bigger I know other people that have. seen like people at trust that have seen. bigger um there's bigger anacondas out. there for. sure yeah and there's no way to know. there's so you're talking about so much. territory yeah there's and so much. territory cuz in between those Rivers is. just e tons of unbroken forests like we. have yeah we have to worry about the. Amazon it's being cut down but there are.

still places is that one real that's a. dick. pick that's that this is the one I keeps. hopping there's only a few pictures. online the largest ones it's like 30 so. that the perspective thing like when. someone holds a fish in front of them. like this and it makes much and that and. that's why that's why I said that cuz. like they're holding that so much closer. to the to the camera and that's a retic. so that's Indonesia that's a that's. somewhere in Southeast Asia but it's. still big it's still big but it could be. like 11 ft which is kind of a puppy. still so there's other ones where it.

shows like an anaconda wrapped around a. giant tractor those fake I think those. are fake there's one though where. they're cutting an Indonesian Farm. worker out of a reticulated python. that's real 100% I mean people do get. eaten by snakes I mean that's not you. know that's like that like I remember. cuz like when I was like say even up. until like five years ago it would. always be like are these videos real and. then like two years ago or so they were. like watch this and like you see the guy. fall out of the snake and you're like. okay that one's real yeah yeah it does.

happen it does happen how often does it. happen is it something that they worry. about or is it just like a very rare. occurrence of someone to be in the wrong. place at the wrong time you got to be. pretty I mean as a human you got to be. pretty stupid to get eaten by an. anaconda you got to be doing something. really stupid really yeah I mean because. like you're walking through the jungle. like you know you know not to go up to. your chest in certain swamps I. mean dude I was I'm just feeling walking. around knowing there's giant snakes are. around being up your chest in water the. [ __ ] out of here forget the giant snakes.

when you fall into that nightmare soup. at 2:00 in the morning and you're and. you get that black water on you and. there's there's things going up your. pants there are insects in the water. there are tarantulas walking on the. water eating the frogs it's like you are. in a festival of Sex and Death when. you're in the Amazon night like it is. falling into that water like when we go. in there to do research we're like. looking at frogs and [ __ ] and it's like. we put our socks over our pants to like. make sure cuz otherwise [ __ ] gets up. there one girl got bitten like 16 times.

by this giant aquatic water spider thing. that like went up her leg just going. like moris coating her just like g g g g. g just like pumping Venom into her oh. yeah how bad she had [ __ ] up I. emotionally I think it was worse than. the pain because the pain gave her some. benad dril and she like slept it off but. like she was just like God it was so. horrible she was like I was like. slapping my leg trying to get this thing. to stop biting me and it was just. getting more scared so it was biting her. more and it's like you don't even know. what it is it could be a new.

species. wow you don't even know what it is they. don't have a real accounting of all the. different species no no no they don't. and so like people say oh like a bullet. ant is the most painful insect bite and. it's like dude I've been bitten by stung. by bullet ants like eight times they. hurt they suck but I found a uh a. caterpillar that was like you know I. don't know again maybe like two Zippos. and uh I had it a leaf and I was trying. to put it in a terrarium and the leaf. like bent under the thing's weight it.

was like yellow it kind of looked like. Trump's hair and it like fell on my hand. and I was plunged into immediate like. electroshock like pain waves way worse. than a bullet an way worse whatever this. caterpillar did to me [ __ ] me up for. days wow it was. horrible some kind of Venom yeah I mean. under under then then I like I really. got scared cuz then I was like okay do I. have to get out of the forest um so like. we went in with like four and like move. the hair and like underneath the hair it. has like these like Christmas tree barbs.

and the hair is covering those barbs. yeah something something like that what. the [ __ ] man look at that thing yeah no. that that was I I I I was not laughing. like when we get bit by a bullet an. we're like oh [ __ ] like your day is over. it's funny that's that's not funny those. is this about your work is this this. from you this this image this another. one random off the internet this is in. Florida it says it's a pus. caterpillar oh oh my God in Florida I've. never heard of it so is that an invasive.

species CU so many of those in Florida. most venomous caterpillars in the US so. what does it say what' you say it's what. over here it says most venomous. caterpillar in the US oh wow it says. it's like a beasting though but I just. thing only worse pain immediately. rapidly gets worse from being stung it. could even make your bones. hurt so does that exactly what got you. or something something in that family. something related to that but dude I. hate that feeling I hate even thinking. about that feeling it's horrible and so.

that's the worst one that you've. experienced that's the worst insect bite. yeah yeah what about other bites well I. mean like crocodiles hurt you got bit by. crocodile yeah really yeah I just uh I. one time I got I was I was catching a. Cayman at night um and there's like a. you know usually you catch a Cayman. they're not that big I caught one there. a little bit too big and she like I. couldn't get an arm over her I had her. by the neck and I couldn't get an arm. over her tail cuz her tail was like over. here and she thrashed out and I stupid. stupid stupid I like grabbed one of her.

you just let her go you know there's no. reason for this I just I grabbed like a. hind leg and I was like oh I'm going to. re she just came around whack and just. nailed me and snapped my watch in half. like she just like put a nail through. the watch I had which was great because. it saved me and then I still have this. uh like a something in my arm in my hand. just like a a bone knot but like then. her other tooth went in there and came. out there and it's like it was just. stupid now more careful when I catch. Crocs how big is that cman um they're.

fairly small in that family right well. you have the we have four species where. we are we have the smooth fronted we. have the dwarf which are both like you. know like 3 feet 5 feet and then you. have spectacled which can get up to like. you know 89 ft and then you have black. cayman that can be 18 ft long really. black cayman's a real black cayman's a. real thing really oh yeah 18 feet long. yeah oh yeah no like a black cayman. skull is like oh my God they're huge let. me see what that looks like I always. thought I was under the impression that. Cayman were the smaller ones I didn't. know they got that big yeah know black.

black cayman looks like an alligator. like it's it's they're. monsters a big alligator they get 18 ft. long holy [ __ ] man so you encountered. those yeah I've encountered those I was. uh what the [ __ ] dude dinosaurs oh. they're huge holy [ __ ] dude there was. one spot that we were we were exploring. this is again one of those places where. you're way past like the edge of. civilization and we were we found this.

like swamp and you know again it's. always JJ that finds everything he goes. oh no and I went what he goes look at. these and there's like a drag Mark huge. black cayman like monstrous like a two. foot thick stomach and then these. monster hands on either side you know. the feet as it's walking and we're like. following this thing and it comes to the. water and floating in the water is the. bodies of all these Dead pecky all these. dead wild boar floating in the water and. I'm like what am I looking at here and. we got a stick and we brought him in and. we realized a whole herd of pigs had.

tried to swim across this water and this. monster ass Godzilla black hman had just. gone and. just just took down like 10 of. them wow and so we just were like. checking out his refrigerator like they. were just there for later they're just. like floating there so he's in the area. he was in he was in the area and we were. like up to our knees and I was like I. was like we we should probably we should. probably go dude let's go oh my God yeah.

no like they're scary big like they're. scary scary scary scary big are those. similar to the ones they have in like. Costa Rica Costa Rica I believe um this. is outside of my expertise but I think. you have American crocodiles and I think. you have spectacle Cayman there I don't. think you have black cayman in Costa. Rica we saw some big crocodiles in Costa. Rica yeah yeah man I mean big for me. yeah I I don't know how big they I. didn't measure them but they were we. were on a boat trip and we were going. down this River and you see him sliding. into the water so there's ones that were. sunning on the side and then you see him.

just slide in the water it was very. creepy yeah cuz the water's Brown and. you can't see [ __ ] and you know they're. there they don't bother you though like. I just stepped on a Cay the other like a. small one I stepped on a Cayman the. other day and I was like you know he. freaked out okay Costa Rica crocodiles. they weigh between 800,00 lb they get. between 13 and 16 ft long yeah those are. the ones that we saw so that's a. different American American crocodile so. it's the same as the ones that they have. in like. Florida is that that true I don't know.

that's no Amer crocod Costa Rican. crocodile something different can get. very big indeed so geez so I think. they're saying it's the same thing is. that what they're saying cuz I know the. um American crocodiles they're smaller. than the alligators but much more. aggressive you know they've spotted Nile. crocodiles in the in the Everglades no. yeah got a kill on site order for Nile. crocodiles they've at least spotted one.

they don't know if it's breeding they. don't know if there's more than one it's. so much worse than burmes pythons it's. the Florida thing is so godamn crazy. it's so wild it's so wild what's. happened down there that there's. literally 99% of all the mammals are. missing from the. Everglades 99% 99% yeah Google that they. found they found four since the 90s yeah. okay so they found four but so that's. even worse cuz they're you know they're.

in there you know they're in there they. found Nile. crocodiles Jesus. Christ yeah I guarantee it's some. [ __ ] with a pet yeah let them go and. now they're breeding oh but that's so. much scarier I mean they just the smash. power that they have like to take down a. wilderbeast to rip the head off a zebra. like I played a video on my Instagram. that I found of one snapping a pig in. half yeah it just has the yeah just snap. and just Chucks down the leg Yeah but.

see if you can find that statistic on. the Everglades that there's 99% of the. mammals are missing it is there I think. it's true I think it's true I think it's. 99% of all the raccoons 99% of all the. deer everything yeah cuz the [ __ ]. crocodiles ate them all well it's. everything it says it's cuz the pythons. but could be 99 look at that study. published mon Monday in the procedings. of the National Academy of Science has. found the sightings of medium-sized M. mammals are down drastically as much as.

99% in some cases in areas where pythons. and other large invasive large. non-native constrictor snakes are known. to be. lurking wow so the the people that I. know that have been there so it's over. the last few decades is drastic yeah you. don't see anything anymore you you just. see the snakes and you see alligators. well it's like Guam Guam had that. problem with the snakes where they like. they yeah there was on the island of. Guam they had monstrous snake problem. but there that's the funny thing with. the jungle is like it's everything is so.

there's so many there's so many. predators everything is eating each. other so it's like you don't have any. one thing the balance is inred in the. Amazon that's the thing about the. invasive species that get introduced. into an ecosystem that that you know. nothing's there to eat. them which is crazy these python Hunters. that are finding these massive pythons. in the Everglades is is it's so so crazy. to watch how many of them there are and. how they keep finding them I see like.

kids on social media going out and like. literally like finding burmes pythons. like it's like everyone can do it like. they say there's a half a million of. them at least in the Everglades I mean. it's it's warm it's wet there's Wildlife. it's perfect it's just. like it's [ __ ] got to figure out. something to do with that how do they do. that now it's like they're so invasive. they're so in the system how could they. possibly eradicate them there's there's. I mean Kan in Australia I mean there's. so many examples of this where we've. transported something or I think it was.

I think it was cats in New Zealand that. devastated house cats just yeah. Australia as well they brought him in to. kill off other things and they just. devastated ground nesting birds and. anything else yeah no like tragic it's. really sad um but what can they do I. what at this point the Everglades are so. dead higher higher Florida mans to go. out they think they are doing that right. they are doing that put a reward on them. but how much of a dent can they even put. in it one onone I don't think it's a. problem that you can really solve cuz if.

you get those big ones but then it's. like there's they're so cryptic snakes. are so cryptic like again that what. we've learned about anacondas is like. they're they can be around you and you. don't know it like they'll go in the. sand in a in a river and they'll like. stick their nose up and they'll just be. resting and they'll be like I ate last. week I'm just going to chill here and so. like we'll be walking up a stream and if. that snake like once snakes have like. radio transmitters in them we're like oh. my God they we have none of the. equipment required to find them so like. the babies they're in the leaf litter.

they're in the swamps they're like we're. never going to get them out like that's. just the way it is. now like I think I I totally think that. they should try as much as possible poor. poor Florida Wildlife yeah but. realistically what are you going to do. they're eating alligators now I'm sure. you've seen that yeah there's like a. picture where like exploded out the side. yeah they're trying to eat alligators. that are too big they're eating like 12. foot. alligators we need to find someone to. explain to the pythons what size. alligator is the proper size alligator.

to eat that is so gangster though you. try to eat something bigger than you and. it burst out the side of your body like. how big do pythons get what is the. biggest python ever I think the I think. BMS get to like 18 feet Marshall got. like shaky all talk of pythons the [ __ ]. they would love you I would never bring. my dog to the J oh my God way never it. wouldn't last the bot flies and all the. [ __ ] I saw the images off your Instagram. you bot flies pulled out of your back. yeah yeah when you yeah when we were. talking I I I had I had a I was in a bad.

way with some bot flies man they they. suck you can't how often is that it's. not often but when it happens it really. really sucks yeah this is so this is. this is it where they're P so this I'd. had I'd had this was like I brought it. home this was like at home and so yeah. you see there's the tip of it oh. bro so this is where you're already at. home and you're getting it extracted. yeah see that's a big one that's as. thick as like almost as thick as a. pencil oh look at that look at that. thing they're pulling out of you what. does it feel like when it's in.

you look at the size of that dude yeah. no and they eat you know they eat that. comes out Dr pimple poer she would be. proud yeah they they they at night they. wake you up cuz they'll start they'll. start eat they start chewing on you yeah. they really suck oh and that's the only. way to get them out is to pull it oh God. you got them all over your side and your. arm how did you get them uh apparently a. fly catches a mosquito and lays its eggs. on the mosquito or moths we think it's. the moths in our region cuz usually.

every time I get B flies it's when I'm. doing such intense work that I don't. have time to wash my clothes it's. directly linked to how clean you are cuz. like I'll take off a sweaty ass shirt. throw it over a stick go to bed wake up. and then be like boom throw it back on. and go and then like a week later you. get B flies and it's like cuz the moths. are covering your shirt at night and the. mosquitoes are all they're all like the. sweat and so you see all these bugs at. night all over your [ __ ] oh this just. eggs in there it's just eggs and then it. gets on your skin and it gets in there. so like I was and then and then like I.

wasn't sleeping and then like they kind. of get infected and it's just like bfly. suck oh bfly suck it's like nature is. metal in your skin it's like just try to. carve its way through you and eat your. meat oh god oh Marshall's freaking out. over here yeah he like what are you guys. doing so other than the bot flies what. are the other insects that you have to. worry about I mean just like there's a. constant stream of mosquitoes and gats. and stuff but it's really not that see. this when they posted yesterday oh God.

that's a botfly nasty dude that's a. botly botfly exiting I think it's. exiting a body of a dead. animal oh. jeez oh hi. buddy what the [ __ ] man what a creepy. thing that's a that's a that's a hell of. a like a rhino they're particularly. disturbing yo this oh God there's. something like there's a great book I. wish I could remember this there's a. great book on parasites where they said. something like the number of parasites.

for every species on Earth how many. parasites exist specifically for that. and it's like there's more parasites. than there are animals on Earth and it's. [ __ ] it makes you it makes you not you. know so that's a thing to have to deal. with that's a thing to have to deal with. what other like uh spiders or spiders. are chill man I love spiders when I see. like a big ass tarantula chilling in my. room like I'm like do your job eat the. scarier stuff like tarantulas are not. going to bother you um I'm always happy.

with a good a nice big tarantula what up. buddy what's. Happ tarantulas are cool tarantulas are. super cool tarantulas I saw tarantula. eating a mouse one time and it was great. whoa um they also caught it in the web. no they he popped out of his hole and he. merked this thing he just like bit it on. the face he shoved its fangs right in. its eyes and the mouse it was funny too. cuz I was watching the mouse I did not. see the tarantula and the tarantula. jumped out went F and shoved its fangs. into the mouse's eyes and the mouse went. into like instant arrest like it was.

paralyzed it just went straight out and. didn't move and the trener was like and. like pulled it down into its hole whoa. are these sto these stories scaring you. he's a little freaked out just getting. freaked out he's a little freaked he's. he's an empath you know no look at that. no. wow God that is the worst way to go. thank God those things are as small as. they are I found a video the other day I. put it on my Instagram of frog a giant.

toad yeah eating. mice oh yeah there's like and they can't. even really crush them so it's probably. just swallowing it stuffing in it mouth. but it's it's so creepy to watch cuz you. don't realize like how big their mouths. are until you see them stuff a rat in. there so it's uh someone some sick [ __ ]. had set this up they put the toad this. big giant Yellow looking toad in like a. fish tank with a bunch of rats around. see if we can find it it's on my. Instagram Jamie I didn't see it on your. Instagram you don't see it no it didn't.

get pulled down did it I mean I was. looking God damn it censorship these. [ __ ] pull down or m page no. it's on my main. page it's got to be in there I don't. think don't you get a notification when. they pull [ __ ] down I think pretty soon. there's going to be more people with. tattoos of your face than than not here. it is I found it Jamie which one is it. uh I'll send it to you if you. want is that Axel Rose where you have. your Instagram up on there oh yeah I met. did you meet slash no I didn't meet him.

but I saw him man it's up there jimie. scroll down I am there it is Bam that's. it so look at this this giant toad and. these rats are running around trying to. get. free watch when he grabs one no no no. look at his fat greedy fingers as he. stuffs that rat in his. mouth look at that no teeth just swallow. oh I but I'm I'm wondering right now. what's what kills the rat it doesn't. seem like a digests it just swall why. would the rat just chew its way at oh.

God I think it crushes oh man SL in the. poison or something poison or something. what a creepy animal imagine if those. [ __ ] are big just chasing people they. just seem so there's something about. reptiles and frogs and turtles they just. seem so. heartless just. yeah no emotion. just yep dude we we we found a a large I. forget what type of spider it was but it. was eating a snake one night that was. fun I love seeing the interspecies.

things you know when you see a tarantula. eating a eating a mouse or you see a you. know a spider eating a snake and it's. like this this is just worse than it. should be yeah and it always happens in. the middle of the night too it's always. like not when you want to see that [ __ ]. well I would imagine it's it makes you. really appreciate. civilization in some way at least the. peace and quiet I mean I guess not. though cuz I guess you really appre. appreciate that I like where it's wild I. like I like I like where I like to see I.

mean look the Amazon's so important that. it's like to me of course as an as a. conservationist I'm like we need all of. these crazy Creations to be doing that. to create that ecosystem it's like so. like to me that's very comforting I'm. like let all that crazy [ __ ] be there if. you don't like it don't live there like. you know what I mean live in Connecticut. like whatever but like the the Wilder it. is like you go to the the jungle in. January you go into a swamp and it's. just a freak Show it's just all of that. and you just go through the swamp and.

there's all these frogs and snakes and. night monkeys and anacondas and black. cayman and all this [ __ ] and you see. eyes looking at you through the darkness. and it's Jaguars and it's like the It Is. Wild are the Jaguars something to be. worried about not at all not at all I. got woken up by a Jaguar one time I was. on one of those solos and I was in my my. hammock and the Jag came up I was very. lost and very alone and I was like on. like day six or something of being lost. I don't remember. um no it wasn't that long of a soul. though but I was lost and I was scared. and I was in a how did you get lost well.

as soon as you leave the river like you. could literally walk 15 feet and then be. like I'm just going to come right. back and the jungle will like Blair with. you you will you because it's all green. so you just like think you know what. you're doing just just last week I took. people I wanted to cross from one Trail. to another trail and I was like I'm a. guide I can do this and I came back out. on the same Trail like a half hour later. and I was like yep that's what I meant. to do let's go like happens to JJ all. the time really you cannot find your way.

in the jungle do you use a compass don't. use a compass um why not uh because. actually apparently some of the iron. content and some of the saps in the. trees pulls the needle it doesn't work. really well like um even the trees are. trying to trick you oh my god um GPS's. run out of batteries you know it's like. it's like you really just you have to. learn your your your your Bushcraft you. have to learn how to navigate in the. jungle and it's like. there which is pretty much you have to. get just amazing a dead reckoning and. and remembering your your your course.

because it's so dense that like we we. play with people we go you know go see. if you can go from here to there and. it's like they can't they can't go there. they can't do that as soon as you leave. the river so like I had gone out in this. solo gotten lost gotten scared and then. been like oh [ __ ] what if I just like. into the wilded myself what if now I'm. going to be the next kid they went and. died in the Amazon and like I like slept. in a in the in the hammock but this is. like as I was learning so I didn't. realize that the the the hammock that I. had bought had a mosquito net on top but.

the back was not mosquito proof so they. could stick through so my back was being. destroyed by mosquitoes as I'm trying to. sleep in like a couple of nights of that. and so I finally fall asleep and I wake. up in the middle of the night and I hear. breathing right next to my. face and I like wanted to turn my. headlamp on and I just hear. like right here like I could feel her. breath and I was like six inches away. from a Jaguar's face and she just like. you.

know and then left and she just came in. she wanted to see what that was she was. like you you're not going to move that's. what you're not going to do she growled. like right into my ear and then later. on but that one's cute though that's a. cute picture that's a cute. Jack wow and they vary in in colors and. the the spots and everything right like. some of them are much darker yeah well I. mean yeah actually somebody recently was. like um where do you see Panthers and I.

went on this whole thing of like you. know a a leopard or a Jaguar just like. you can have albinos you have a. melanistic one yeah wow so like people. would call that a panther but a panther. is not not a real there's no animal. that's a panther it's like a Kleenex. it's like it's a it's just another name. for it that is so beautiful but a black. look at that thing oh my God that's. beautiful yeah in South India they have. the black leopards which amazing looking. animal look at the muscles yeah it's an. amazing killing. machine and.

so humans don't get taken out by them uh. I can only really speak for our region. of the Amazon but there's I haven't even. heard a story about it really no one. like no one our our Jags are just we. have like record numbers of Jags like I. think they're listed as near-threatened. and we have like some of the strongest. remaining Jaguar populations in the. world it's incredible you barely see. them we barely see them um the last one. I saw was two years ago and some people. like go their whole lives without seeing.

them really yeah yeah yeah yeah well. because people walk off into the jungle. and they don't realize people people. it's so funny living in the wild and. seeing people show up there and it's. like people come and they're like they. smell like shampoo and cologne and bug. spray and deodorant and they're just. like if to an animal that has such. better senses than we do they might as. well just have like sirens on them and. like you are this shiny glittering fog. horn of attention in the jungle and like. every animal is going to run away from.

you and so people are always like how. come you go out and you see so much. stuff and it's like I only shower in the. river I live out in the jungle I smell. like they do like I'm out there for. weeks and it's like I'm not going and. like shampooing my hair it's like and so. like to these animals like they know. when you're coming like a Jag is just. going to be like oh there's a human. there do you wash with soap when you. wash in the river I do I do I do use a. biodegradable soap you have to keep your. skin clean or else you just get. infections but like for the most part. like my clothing everything like I don't.

use anything that's scented um because. of that because I want to be out there. and and just blend in and that's whether. I'm out in the field with elephants or. whether you're out in you know in Africa. or India or whether you're in the Amazon. I I want to be sort of like included I. want to blend in and so like not that. long ago I was checking a camera trap. and I heard I thought it was a we had. students at at at our research station. at the time and I heard like the leaves. going. and it was like September so the jungle. was dry and I turned around and I was. going to scare this person because I was.

going be like who walks that loud in the. jungle like have you never you have no. respect and I turned around with my. finger up and this Jag walked right by. me on the trail and just up just kept. walking and I was. like finger up and I was like okay oh. Lord but I took that as good because at. least I was my my like scent Trail was. was so that he didn't know I was there I. could see it on his face he didn't care. you was like hey but I mean he was 6. feet away he just he didn't even break. his stride he just walked by me he was. like yo what's up they don't think of.

you as food so they just keep moving no. and I think they're you know with big. cats they're they're the mothers teach. the young how to hunt and I think. they're so oriented like with tigers. they're so oriented on horizontal you. know get the neck from underneath break. the neck from up top and it's like when. they see a vertical animal walking by I. think they're like first of all I don't. know what this is second of all it. smells weird third of all where do I. even you know you got to be desper to. take that. risk I don't think that I don't think. that they lions are a different story.

but but with Jags with tigers with. leopards I don't I I've never ever felt. any fear being around a Jaguar like any. fear I don't even take pictures of them. I just enjoy it wow I let other people. take pictures if I'm with people I'll. let them take pictures but I like will. not lift my camera for a jack I'll just. stand there and. just take it in yeah you get to see him. so rarely I don't want to sit there. finally seeing one and then put another. screen in front of my face look through. it through some glass like whoa yeah.

yeah that's our camera they start that's. from yours yeah wow look at that thing. yeah that is so Majestic what an amazing. animal with glowing. eyes well that's the crazy thing you. shine your headlamp into the into the. night and then when things look back at. you you got to wonder what it. is it's. like well when there's two eyes in the. front you know in the front yeah but. some sometimes the deer but then the. Jags do this thing where they move their. head like this they like they try and.

see around your headlamp they'll like do. this little side to side thing like the. deer they'll just blink at you they'll. just blink and so you start learning the. ey shines you start learning the you. know because then you can be out there. at night you look at something and. people like oh [ __ ] dude it's a Jag and. it's like no it's a deer when you were. saying that the uncontacted tribe were. speaking in Monkey call how do they what. are they. doing so uh JJ's dad used to tell us he. said if you're ever out in the forest. and something doesn't sound right he was.

like get out of there and he was like. because they will use the U calls like. the undulated tinu is. like but like we know what that sounds. like but we also know what it doesn't. sound like and so like every now and. then you'll hear one that's you know. different and like we all get freaked. out because we're like those that's how. we do it that's how JJ taught me to do. it like if there was a bunch of tourists. right there and JJ wanted me to come. over and like chill with him and we. wanted to go hang he would just do that. you get my attention and like I know. that it's not a ten I know it's JJ and.

so it's like they've taken that to a. whole another level where they can. communicate and so there was a group of. guys who was up. River and they got surrounded they heard. monkey calls coming from different. directions and they realized that they. were completely surrounded like at least. one of the guys who was saying was. telling it to me he got in the water and. like crawled like a turtle and like. escaped and then the tribe showed up and. then there's this whole Showdown where. they they actually shot one of the. community members and then one of the.

guys who knows some of their language. was saying that they it looked like they. were mad with the guy that shot the guy. they were mad with him like they were. like why did you do that now there's. going to be retaliation like why did you. shoot him and like there was like a. whole discussion happening while these. people were like huddled in the Stream. waiting to see if they got killed. too so it's like I don't really you know. when you get these loggers going in. there it's like yo we'll pay you to. protect the rainforest and like you. don't have to do this you don't have to. be going into these these. areas that are that.

dangerous um so yeah so at this point. now though part you know through all of. this though we've established jungle. Keepers we have 50,000 Acres we're. trying to do 300,000 acres and if we can. do that we'll basically be helping to. establish one of the largest protected. areas in the Amazon rainforest which. will Encompass these uncontacted people. and they can stay uncontacted and they. can stay safe and do whatever they want. to do in the jungle guarding the secret. pyramids and the giant ground sloths or. whatever the hell it is that they do.

um but we're close now how many. uncontacted tribes are they aware of I. think there's like over a hundred. different groups across the Amazon wow. there's also varying degrees of and and. the other thing is the conversation so. often gets turned to like they're you. know um violent and that're they're. people to live out in the drunk. and I have no idea how they do it either. because you know at night we need. headlamps we don't have night vision all.

the animals have night vision so it's. like what do they do that night they. they're able to make fire in the jungle. at night every. day you if I gave you an entire book of. matches me and you we sat down right now. in the jungle I was like okay cool you. got a machete and a book of matches. first one to make fire. wins we couldn't do. it it's wet everything is wet so how are. they what you know what's their are they. doing bod drill are they doing what are. they doing we don't really know no we. don't know how they do that we don't. know how they stay infection free we.

don't know what they do with their old. people we never see old people we never. really see children and so like they. move around and they we see like groups. of men on beaches we see like that. picture that aerial picture where you. see like a family group out that's in. Turtle season where you have Turtles. laying their eggs on the beaches and the. tribes will come out because that's easy. food you just pick up turtle eggs and. eat them um but there's so much that we. don't know about their lifestyle and. like people get so many things wrong. just you know if you leave them alone. then they won't kill you if you you know.

then people go they're Stone aged tribes. and it's like well they're not stoneage. tribes because they're they're alive. right now and you couldn't live out in. the jungle but they can right so it's. like there's elements of their you know. their their Botanical knowledge their. medicinal knowledge their creation myths. their view of history I mean they're. they're coming in reality from a whole. different perspective than we are wow. and there's really no way to get does. any one speak their language do we know. what language they all speak is it. Universal do they have different. languages it's not Universal and there.

was someone in our region who like. captured a child oh from the uncontacted. oh my God raised him in a very remote. community and people have tried. anthropologists have tried they've been. like hey so what was it like when you. grew up and it's it's like it's dark. he's just like I don't remember like no. one's been able to get any information. out of him how old was he when they. captured him I think like six like under. 10 for sure does he not remember or does. he just not want to talk about it I. don't. know that's that's that's the these.

there all there's all these underlying. stories. um oh man yeah there's just there's just. then last year some loggers went to a. place they shouldn't have gone and they. got they got whacked and uh sort of like. the you know like the WhatsApp. underground in Peru like everyone was. sending each other pictures cuz one of. the cops like sent to his family a. picture of what the bodies looked like. on like day six laying on the beach with. arrows in them and [ __ ] and it was like. oh my God it was like this it just it. makes you stay in bed at night you're.

just like I am not going out Jesus but I. mean yeah it's just it's a complicated. topic because there's people that want. to contact them there's people that want. to leave them alone and then of course. there's missionaries that are like they. need the Bible what did you think about. lost city of. z um I loved the book I wanted more from. the movie um of course yeah there's only. so much time. yeah um Hollywood [ __ ] god um the. book was fantastic and that guy was out.

of his mind out of his mind out of his. mind yeah uh Percy faucet yeah Percy. faucet but like the fact that he could. go on those Expeditions and not get. infected I've been I've been I've been. brutally like let me show you I'll show. you this picture I don't think there's. any way of pulling this up but. like the oh my God like the jungle just. gets into your skin what is that on your. face uh MRSA infection it like started. it started like you know mosquito bites. and then I would scratch and you don't.

realize you're spreading it with your. finger you go like this and [ __ ] and so. I mean I almost died from that like that. was but I was staying in the jungle to. like take care of an antier but it's. like how did you get free of that like. if you're in the jungle did you use. antibiotics go home you just go home I. had to go home at that point I got to I. remember I got to JFK and the the guy. you know like looked down at my passport. he goes yeah what were you doing in Peru. and then he looked up at me and he goes. Buddy what the [ __ ] and I was like I'm. just trying to get and he like stamped. it he was like go go go go go he's like. go go to the doctor I can't I can't. believe they let me through right you.

could have been infected with some crazy. plague could have had like monkey Ebola. like it was it looked bad and I spent. days in the hospital like it was it was. really really bad um but for Percy faet. to not they would say like other people. would be dying there was somebody I. think the guy's name was Murray he came. from the Shackleton XP he had already. been out with Shackleton so he was like. I'm a real Explorer and he lasted he. didn't last any time with with uh with. faucet because Percy faucet was just. like you can't keep up go die you can go. die with the with the mules like he just.

wouldn't stop so my question is it's. like did he go out and eventually get. killed or did he eventually go out and. like find the tribe that made him their. King and just there's no knowledge. there's no knowledge of it yeah no one. really knows what happened to him and. they said in that book that over a. hundred people have died looking for him. since he left cuz then the other. Expeditions that have gone out all of. those have died too it's like yeah look. at that look at him look at the look in. his eyes hard man that a hard man look. at him that looks like a guy who could. survive in the Amazon who tells you to.

keep up look at the [ __ ] feral eyes. on that [ __ ]. yeah wow the story is so fascinating. because now we know through the use of. ldar that there really were complex. cities in the Amazon yeah which is just. incredible that the jungle just. swallowed up all these very complex. structures yeah it's funny cuz somebody. sent me a video of um Graham Watkins. Graham hanock Graham Hancock um saying.

how he was like yeah and he goes you. know the jungle's basically a human-made. garden and then of course I went and. talked to like every scientist I knew. because I was like come on and they're. like look you know in the areas around. the rivers there were complex there was. no debating it there were complex. civilizations sometimes larger than we. th think but in those areas you see a. higher prevalence of like like like he. said like they'll Plant Brazil nut trees. they'll plant you know whatever I don't. think bananas were there at that point. but where there was some gardening.

happening but what what worried me then. was then like Smithsonian came out and. put out like an article and they're like. is the Amazon created by humans and it. was like oh God no no no no no no no no. cuz like then you're changing it from a. designation of like this incredible. complex wild ancient ecosystem to if. people don't understand the context of. what he's saying that that that people. engineered it in. places and then the headlines went to. the Amazon was made by people and then. you have people like Brazil's president. Jer bolsonaro who's no longer in in. office but just being like well if we.

made it we can manage it right oh let's. go take it out and it was like I was. like oh God I was like be careful I was. watching him on your show and I was like. oh be careful be careful be careful. because like the work he does is great I. see what you're saying but the. implications of that narrative yeah and. again 100% there are there are dude I. mean there's there's you find Pottery in. places but it's always near the rivers. like there's evidence of ancient. civilizations you want to hear the. craziest thing one of my guys found a. stone axe head now here's the thing the.

uncontacted don't have rocks you won't. find a rock on our River there's clay. there are no rocks they found a stone ax. head in the. jungle at a sight from the uncontacted. but what that means is that the. uncontacted tribe had a stone ax head. that was that they've been holding on to. since like Inca. times wow and someone forgot it at the. camp and so you talking about. civilization carrying around something. from a previous. civilization that they don't know where. they got it from it's like incredible.

wow because you cannot find a there. there are no rocks like that on a river. it was like a a smooth gry Stone shaped. into like a blunt ax head with you know. made you know you could attach it to a. stick and they found this on the beach. and they'd been using it to like clean. Turtles but we don't have those rocks. that's more like an Inca type of thing. so this has been floating around through. various people's hands in the jungle for. decades centuries who knows and what do. they think about where that came from.

it's lost technology that they don't. understand. anymore so the thing about the lost city. of Z was that there was a previous. Expedition that had encountered these. cities and these incredible yes. beautiful complex cities and they. described how elaborate their clothing. was and their culture and their. Agriculture and so then when the next. Expedition went back there was no one.

there because they had killed everybody. with diseases this is the yeah that's. the theory right yeah and I mean Oriana. was the first person to like go descend. the Amazon which the thing that always d. drove me crazy about that was that they. came down the Andes made their way down. the entire Amazon and then like looked. at the stars figured out where Spain was. built a whole other ship and sailed home. like. think about that for a second they built. a whole sh you built a whole pirate ship. and sailed to Spain based off the Stars.

wow and like now like you look at us now. and it's like are we smarter than that. now like how many people can find your. way anywhere without like but what is. smart really you know what what's smart. is is your ability to use information. correctly now what information do you. have like they had information that we. don't have because they needed to be. able to navigate using the stars and. they didn't have to deal with the kind. of night pollution that we have the. light pollution that we have at night. it's it's one of the greatest tragedies.

about modern civilization is that we've. blacked out one of the most spectacular. things you could ever see the thing that. really centers us and humbles us which. is the view of the stars there I went to. the kek observatory a few years back I. went last year but it was really good. last year but not this's one time the. kek observatory is in Hawaii on the big. island and you go way way way up through. the clouds and the view of the cosmos is. like you are in a SPAC ship with a clear.

glass windshield and you see everything. there's no light pollution on the island. because they have diffused lighting for. all their street lights specifically. designed so that it doesn't [ __ ] with. the telescopes wow and so when you're up. there the I'll never forget it the one. time that I went which was at least 15. years ago maybe 16 years ago that one. time was so spectacular that it changed. my view of like Earth in in the. relationship to the cosmos just by.

seeing it CU you see the Milky Way you. see everything you see all the stars it. just took my breath away I couldn't stop. staring at it I was like this is insane. and then I was thinking God this is. everywhere this is what the Ancients. used to see before we figured out. electricity and blunted it all yeah and. and ruined our relationship with the. cosmos visually because that's what. every city does when you look up at the. night sky you don't see Jack [ __ ] in New. York City you see usar oh there's the.

moon that's it what what is up there is. the literally the most spectacular thing. that humans could ever witness and it's. there every night if you don't have. light pollution and cloud. cover so like you're saying like it. would be like almost like more stars. than black see man you see it's. incredible so they're very careful at. the observatory there's no lights that. get in the way of anything so when you. get outside of the building and there's.

just people lined up on the roads and on. the Hills that are just staring up at. the sky because it's perfect it's insane. it's insane it's so many stars it's. everything that's what it looks like. that's literally that's literally. exactly what it looks like that is the. with your naked eye man it's amazing but. it's this understanding that that's up. there all the time and you can't see it. because of light pollution but see that. to me is so much of what we're doing.

with nature right now where it's like. we're dulling it down yeah we live in. this incredible reality and it's like. we're dulling it down like like in the. Eastern Cape where I've been working. with the guys from Veta like the. elephants have smaller tusks or no. tusks because of. poaching and it's like you're taking. this incredible monstrous giant land. that a natural selection thing like the. the ones that have smaller tusks are. allowed to survive it's because they're. targeted yeah they're targeted for the. big Tusk so the big Tusk ones are.

getting killed and so somehow in. response to that they're developing. smaller tusks so they're less attractive. to the point that they're even having no. tusks it's like it it gen like. genetically bottlenecked them so quickly. because over the last hundred. years the humans were all going for the. big tuskers and now these monster. tuskers like the really big ones where. they touch the ground there's only a few. of them left that is so wild and so we. and then moose like in Maine they have. smaller antlers and like we're actually. like we're we're we're dulling down the.

the the magnificence of the of the. universe like when you look at those. pictures you're like why don't I see. that picture if we saw that every night. right how different we'd be how much. more connected with oh yeah it's it's so. humbling I feel like that's there's a. thing about Mountain communities Ocean. Communities where you're you're. confronted with nature that's on such a. a scale of Beauty and and magnificence. that you you're you're overwhelmed by it. and it's you're automatically humbled. just by your environment and your.

surroundings there's the same thing. about oceans like you look out to the. it's so humbling because it's so immense. and there's so much power and energy and. life it's just like wow it just puts you. in your place and the sky is supposed to. do that too there's a relationship that. we have to the cosmos when you look up. that is like okay yeah this is this is. the real mystery of of life and of. existence that we we fly through. Infinity on an organic spaceship every. day and that's what's really going on. it's not it's not stationary it's.

literally spiraling through the. universe and and that exact sort of. Wonder is what I feel when I wake up in. the jungle and you you dip your hands in. and you drink the river and then in the. afternoon that's you literally watch. your sweat come off your forehead you. hold your hand in the sunlight and watch. it go into the air and join the mist. from the jungle wow and then at 4 pm you. get that thunderstorm and it comes back. and that cycle is moving through you wow. and it's like you are so connected to. Nature there you are so it's so.

apparent that like you you you can't not. be in absolute awe and like you see this. and again we're out there we see the. stars at night like that where it's like. you can see the Milky Way it's a belt. across the sky and there are these. animals and these consciousnesses moving. and it's all working together in this. giant Orchestra of the most complex life. that's ever existed and it's. like you you start to you know when you. come home then when you go back to a. city you go what what what you guys are.

really missing out you know like you. like you feel so connected and locked in. and and and you sort like you said it. puts you in your place it reminds you. that we're how how insane this reality. is yeah and that we're on this planet. that we are so incredibly connected to. and then you start to understand what. happens when people get removed from. that and how far off perception can go. and because when you're not what the. jungle does is it brings you back to. those chemical physical truths it like. removes the cataracts of society from. your eyes so that you're confronted with.

whether or not the river's Rising. whether or not you know the Sun is going. to be when we're on an expedition it's. like it rains for six hours and we. freeze you can get hypothermia then the. Sun comes out but the boat keeps moving. and it's like well now your skin is. peeling off and it doesn't matter what. you believe in or who you are it's like. we all have to deal with the same. reality we got to. survive and that's where I feel good. that's that's the the rules of the game. are the same there's no debating it it's. like we all have to deal with the facts. that nature is putting forward for us.

and it's like the world makes a lot of. sense when you're out in the wilderness. the real Wilderness that's what people. say that live like a subsistence. lifestyle they say there there's. something about it that's that deeply. resonates with being a human being you. know there's a a famous uh Vice series. that we have referenced on this show a. bunch of times it's called the vice guy. to travel and they went to VIs is this. guy um I want to say his name right I. think it's Hino court and he lives like.

way way way up in Alaska and he has some. sort of um uh they gave him some sort of. permission a long time ago to hold this. cabin in this particular area but he's. literally like the last one to be able. to do that yes and he lives up there. just hunting caribou and fishing and. that's all he does. and yes he lives up with his wife in. this tiny cabin that you know there has. no windows and he has a generator and.

he's up there just eating caribou and. hunting and living off the but he's a. very intelligent guy and when he talks. about it it's a really fascinating. series because this guy is back when. Vice used to do like really cool stuff. back when Vice was edgy yeah well they. were real you know they were really. doing cool stuff and this guy [ __ ]. flew out there on a little a bush plane. and hung out with this guy for like a. week when their Camp got attacked by. Grizzly he had to shoot this grizzly.

because the grizzly was coming in to. raid the camp and like so it's the. middle of the night he's chasing this. guy with a camera and the guy's like. firing a shotgun at a Grizzly but I mean. you have to be a type of Genius to live. out in that like you have to be such a. problem solver like you know you're. you're you're you have to be able to. build your house you have to be able to. do irrigation you have to be able to I. mean just in the jungle it's like the. problems you have to I mean I'm still. such an novice it's like these guys like. they're like can you drive a boat I'm. like yeah and they're like no no no can. you drive a boat which means can you. disassemble the motor and put it back. together because eventually that's what.

you're going to have to do and so it's. like if you go take your bush plane and. go live out in Alaska it's like well how. long until you have to call someone for. help like we rely on other people so. much and that's the beauty of being you. get you get so humbled being out in. nature because you go my God doing. anything is impossible even like making. fireone goes oh I'm going to use a bow. drill method and it's like all right. cool what are you going to use and. they're like oh this piece of paracord. and this stick and I'm going to carve it. and I'm like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. where'd you get that knife where'd you. get that paracord like start it's tough.

start from nothing Start From Start From. nothing you'll get nowhere just try and. make. rope it's like Mankind's like second. invention it's like it's impossible just. sit out in nature sometime just go sit. out in nature and be like I'm going to. make rope like functional rope enough. that I can carry you know. something you know find uh rope from. uncontacted tribes that they've left. behind I have a piece you have a piece I. have a piece really yeah I found a piece.

on it no no what does it look like it's. it's very very fine so they they weave. it from balsa wood and so Balsa you can. pretty much cut the you know with a p. take your machete and just like cut into. the tree and it grows really quick you. can peel the the bark off of it and. pretty much use that as rope but if you. want to take it a step farther you can. tie that and then like braid it or twist. it and it has all these juices in it. that that like solidify you can make. legitimate rope I could make 15t of rope. in like two hours really yeah oh yeah. like it's it's legitimate rope too like.

you could haul a boat with it you could. use it as bow string oh totally 100%. it's strong wow but that you have to. know that it's the Balsa tree yes when. JJ again when JJ first taught me this. the first thing I did was March up to a. ccopa tree and whack it with my machete. and start trying to get the bark off and. that the copia ants like landed on my. face and I came back and I was like what. what happened and he was like idiot. that's obviously not a Balsa tree and. you know it took a long time took a lot. of bites one of the more interesting.

stories was when you would run out of. water and you found a a certain type of. bamboo that absorbs water and so you. have to cut the bamboo and drink the. water out of the bamboo yeah and that. that's pretty common if you see bamboo. tilted over on the side it's pretty it's. gotten heavy and it's come over does it. have holes in it where it's absorbing. the the water like how is it getting. into the sucking it up through that. sucking up through the ground through. the grounding filling those those. canisters so that's of those can that's.

the purpose of those things I I don't. know if it's that's the purpose it's. definitely saving water is a purpose of. them and so what we do is we can when. we're out in the bush it's like you just. you cut off one of those canisters and. so you have like a sweet little bamboo. cylinder and then you tie it with Balsa. and throw it over your back and it's. like you're carrying a map it's like you. just have this like a water bottle from. the jungle oh like there are ways of. getting things done then what you do is. what JJ will do we'll go and we'll take. you take a serrated knife and when you. walk Barefoot you get that big callus on.

the back of your heel you cut the callus. off your heel stick it on a hook catch a. few piranha cut them up into pieces. catch some more piranha and then stuff. the piranha into the bamboo take some. leaves salt stuff the leaves in the. bamboo and then throw the bamboo. canister filled with piranha onto the. fire really oh my God oh my my God it's. delicious really oh my God yes cuz the. bamboo flavors the piranha and then. there's you know if you're with the guys. they know other herbs that they can put.

on it but it's like oh God is that. delicious wow someone just served at a. restaurant yeah with the with it started. off of someone's. foot a piece of your heel and the reason. for that the reason for that is that. again it's just like the fire thing I do. this when I bring students to the Amazon. I go like okay let's make fire nobody. can make fire you go okay now we're. going to go fishing. we'll give you Hooks and you know and a. line find. bait a moth is too like loose and.

they're not around in the daytime and. then you're like okay well what do I. what do I there is there is no bait. everything either is eaten or was eaten. or is hiding or is camouflaged you can't. find bait you know in the Amazonian soil. underneath the tree roots is Clay so. you're not going to dig and find. worms and so it's like it's a whole. different game like it's this whole. different like Wilderness Survival game. down there wow you can't just go fishing. you can't just make fire like you have. to learn how to do these things there. first before that'll work and the the. slicing a piece of your cow that's.

common that's a normal way to do it it's. um it's a little bit of a flex like it's. a it's a thing that like jungle guys. do like I'll do it like if there's like. a bunch of loggers in a like you know. we're all like sitting there like I'll. do it just to let them know because. they'll all be like oh Gringo like and. I'll be like oh yeah look at my callus. who can get more off the their their. heel you know the every Everybody pulls. out their knives and cutting their feet. oh God that seems like that could go. horribly wrong you do it carefully. there's a way to do it you shave it off.

but like JJ gets these big slugs of. callus off and then you you you can and. it's strong and so that's great because. then like the little fish can't pick it. off you throw it in you get a fish and. if you can get a decent sized fish then. you stick that on a nice big hook and by. morning you get yourself like a nice big. fat catfish oh so you work your way up. the ecosystem with your heel eventually. starting with your starting with your. heel. yes and is that is there another way to. do it is there other ways that they do. it when they fish is there like oh sure.

I mean you can go up again we're like. I'm talking about like surviving I mean. you can go up to the edge of the river. with your with your headlamp and curious. fish come you just whacking with a. machete um there's that um we also just. you know I mean usually we had now now. whether we're on a scientific Expedition. or whether we're bringing like tourists. into the jungle or whether we're out. with the jungle keepo Rangers whatever. we're doing we have we have a chef with. us have a cook with us we can't always. be cooking for ourselves now and doing. our work right so like you just steal. some chicken skin throw that on the.

hook but you're basically living off of. the land when you're out there no to be. honest we living off the land is. something that we do when we go out on. these like ceremonial hunts or when we. go out on expeditions to like really. Uncharted places we like we practice. that we and and and the elders in the. community like we lost like the the the. guy who used to do the iwasa ceremonies. in JJ's Community like we lost him. during Co but it's like he knew things. he knew methods that the younger.

generation doesn't know like they have. they have Tik Tok just like everybody. else they have Tik Tok yeah dude I told. you gold miners follow me on Instagram. like it's like and that's a security. risk for me yeah like but like JJ's. father once apparently killed an. electric eel removed the nerve and again. I don't know anatomically if this makes. any sense but this is how the lore goes. that he killed the electric eel removed. the nerve that generates the electricity. then cut his own arm open put the nerve.

in it and slapped a dead frog on top of. it and then bandaged that up and he said. that that would give him strength until. the end of his days he lived 87 years. old alive in the jungle and healthy and. he died one day at a barbecue just like. he just like leaned over on his grandson. smiled and died whoow he was like. healthy until he. died he just turned off off huh yeah so. like they they do stuff they they they. have um I had a I was doing some stuff.

with tigers in India and I picked up a. disease called taramia and I had this. horrible patch of puss on my elbow and I. went to every doctor I came home from. India went to doctors in New York and. for two months I was like in bed and I. had no energy and I they put me on this. antibiotics and that and this and that. and these again like New York City. infectious disease doctors couldn't heal. this thing I went to the Amazon JJJ. takes my arm looks at it and goes oh so. bad look at this he goes come with me we. go into the jungle he cuts a tree takes.

the sap says drink some of this not too. much he was like one drop of this down. your throat I felt like it was going to. close my throat and then he took the. rest of the sap and he rubs it onto the. wound and this is like a disgusting. [ __ ] thing that had been plaguing me. for months it was better than next day. really it's better the next day he knew. which tree to go to now think about how. how many thousands of years are needed. or at least centuries are needed in. order for him to have that knowledge how. many people living out in the jungle had. to try how many things to have that.

medicinal knowledge handed down through. the generations and then to be in the. presence of a person that has that type. of knowledge and to have access to it to. witness it working and what specifically. does that sap work on does it work on. all kinds of infections and diseases or. just the kind that you had no so we. actually brought we you know tested it a. petri dish and basically um there's some. of these saps that just murder. infections like you you can't get this. bacteria to live with these saps so like.

people use like NEOS like we don't use. neosporin in the jungle like it doesn't. work what we do is we we go to the Sago. tree like that works as soon as I see. like a little something like a mosquito. bite that just doesn't look right and is. like getting too much of my attention. just go and put that on it immediately. gone one time I like I slashed myself. with a machete I had this huge wound I. like you know I was thinking oh God this. is going to get so infected and then JJ. n just drown it in that stuff you'll be. fine like you you won't get infections. wow there's like Miracle [ __ ] down there.

and is this widely known is this. something that the scientific Community. is a aware of I mean bists and yes and. no um I think what was it captopril they. made from from Bushmaster Venom in the. 1990s and I think that I think it was. fiser I don't know who it was one of. those companies made like you know a few. billion dollars off of it but what. happens is people will discover a. compounded in the Amazon and then export. it you know it'll be like you know. thousands of years of wisdom from. ancient cultures handed down and then. someone will give that knowledge out to.

a to a to a corporation and then they'll. take it profit off of it and then that's. it but it's like we at this point one of. the things we're trying to do is work. with the indigenous communities to try. and help them to preserve that knowledge. because we're also seeing now that as. the roads come in and you have the. problems with the fires and it's. changing you know at the edge at the. edge where the jungle is is is being. destroyed they the younger people have. to decide do they want to live the way. their parents. lived fishing hunting Hower monkeys.

eating Hower monkeys or do they want to. go out into the world and do something. else and it's like well then you start. with like what else you know it's like. it's very very complex being at the edge. of living in like a tribal subsistence. community and then being confronted with. like the modern world and they have like. a cell phone and this definitely a. feeling you can definitely see a feeling. of like being like left out like they. feel like oh we're just sitting here in. a river whereas like I feel like people.

from our world would go like God they. have it perfect they have all the fish. they could ever want you know have you. ever taken someone from there and taken. them on a trip to New York City I mean I. guess they don't have passports um well. some of my guys some of the guys on my. team like that run jungle keepers are. like super native but also kind of. worldly like one of my guys this guy Roy. he's a conservation chef and he's like. Almost Famous he's been to Italy he's. been to Virginia he like but he runs. jungle Keepers JJ I mean speaks perfect. English and like does interviews with me. on like ABC News and like so like these.

guys have Roy came to New York City um. dude the craziest one is this guy. there's a story about an anthropologist. I think some uh I think it was Kenneth. good I can't remember what his name was. but he he went to the. Yanomami married one of them brought. them to the US she couldn't handle it. cuz she was like I want to go back to. the Jungle but they had had kids. together and I heard this Legend like. when I was a kid and then that she had. gone back to the Jungle but that this. Anthropologist had had like Yano Mami. children that he raised on his own in.

the US and then last year I was at a. dinner party and I met David good who is. that guy he's the kid and so now he's. going back to his people in the Yanomami. Villages yeah he went to go back he had. to go find his mother and the first time. he saw her she was naked wow yeah yeah I. was sitting at like a dinner party and. he was like yeah this was uh this was. his mother had abandoned to go back to. the Jungle he's raised by his father the. Anthropologist and then how old was he. when he went back to see his mother I. think he was in his 20s wow and he had.

to go on an expedition up a river the. jungle seen her how old was he I think. when he was a little kid I don't think. she lasted long I don't think she liked. our way of life she wanted to go. back yeah and so now he's he's doing his. PhD he's he's awesome like he could sit. here with us and like he's doing his P. PhD on uh the yanami micro uh I think. that's his mother and he's studying. their gut. fauna wow because their rates of cancer. their rates of disease their rates of. depression of course are like nothing.

compared to ours and so he's launching. this massive study right now to do to. find out why are they so healthy and why. are we so [ __ ]. up I think it'd be easier to find out. why we're so [ __ ]. up but yeah he's he's got a crazy crazy. story The the way they have an. understanding of their environment and. the plants and what to eat and what not. to eat is. just I would imagine talking if you. could speak their language and like be. immersed with them for a long time and. get an understanding of what they know.

it must be amazing well the great thing. is that he he can that's that's what. makes him so interesting is that he's. he's doing it and he's working on it. um but but think about how much we're. losing in terms of like what you said. the connection to the stars and then the. the the realization on a daily basis. that we're part of like this like this. massive March of life and that we're. connected to these systems and the. rivers and the rain and like it sounds. like so cliche to almost say it but it's.

like when you're down there and you. remember these like original. truths and then you go like like there's. such a dissonance between like when you. wake up there are certain things you. have to do like when I wake up in the. jungle you have to go check the boat cuz. the river might have eaten it at night. like you you have to go work on your. water system you have to go on the. trails and clear them like it's like. there's things that nature demands. Farmers know this you have to wake up. and milk the cows. like I feel like what's happening so. many people it's just like you know you. wake up and you're like what do I what.

do I do now you know it's like you get. so disconnected from the systems that. we're a part of it's like it's it's. amputating us of the thing that connects. us to whatever is running this machine. like the gears that work the game like. and that's what that these people still. remember they're still connected to that. reality and then none of these people. are going are we living in a simulation. they're like no I'll they like they know. what reality is cuz they're living in it. every. day so I think that preserving these.

last wild places while they're still. here like I truly believe that we're at. the most crucial moment in history not. because of nuclear war or anything like. that but because never before has there. been a global threat right now we're. like we're on the cusp of we're going. through this Extinction crisis and you. know you can talk about climate change. but like our our River and our. ecosystems are being tested to the point. where like our oceans are collapsing our. rainforests are Vanishing we're losing.

species faster than we can even count. and we have all the knowledge and. technology and ability to stop it we've. seen that humpback whales they went down. from like 120 they were up at around. 120,000 pre- wailing and they went down. to like 5,000 and then we baned whaling. and now they're back up to like 115,000. humpback whales globally like they're. back B B Eagles they're back if you just. stop annihilating these animals and. murdering their habitats they will. continue to make the ecosystems that.

have been our home on this planet for. millions of years like they literally. have made our lives. possible and so like to me there is. nothing more important and I think that. when I was a little kid I actually think. I had some semblance of an idea that my. mission was I'm here to protect. rainforest that's what I'm here to do. and that's why I had to get there. quickly before it was too late and I had. the incredible luck of meeting a teacher. who could unlock that world for.

me and now we have the chance the. historical chance you talk about those. sharks there are trees on the river that. were there before the Spanish touched. South America so the world wars. everything that we know our grandparents. all this that tree was a sapling. standing there in the Amazon rainforest. while pretty much everything that we're. familiar with took took place in history. and we have a chance to protect the. incredible complex ecosystem of. thousands of species that are living on. this tree that can never be replaced.

you're talking about a millennium tree. with leaf cutter ants and reptiles. amphibians birds mammals mosses lyans. Cactus everything living on this. skyscraper of life and we can cut it. down for nothing and grow some papayas. or we can protect it and we have the. chance to protect it and no one else is. going to have that chance and as a. global Society it's like we can protect. Black Rhinos before they go extinct this. incredible ancient monstrous megap faaa. animal that we have the privilege of.

experiencing there's no reason for this. to happen that people falsely believe. that their horns are are are medicinal. when they're not yeah and so it's like I. think we are at the most exciting time. with the most exciting opportunity. because the natural world you know we. could get through this and and people. will look back on our time and just go. what were what were they thinking you. know like the way like when the. Industrial Revolution came around and. they put all the kids in the factories. and they were getting like crushed in. the gears and choked out by smoke and it. was like we just made regulations and. fixed it it's like we don't need to be.

killing life on Earth we can exist here. and we and it is awesome we can fly and. we can take photos and we can have all. this amazing technology we can leave our. planet now. soon all of this is possible but we we. have to remember the basic truth that we. are inextricably tied to our ecosystems. and there's no getting around that and. so we have to protect them and so that's. that's the that's the mission that we're. on and so incredibly the local people of.

the. Amazon and everybody at jungle Keepers. and so. like somehow that mission formed and. then you be you became a part of that. March when you when you retweeted that. and helped us find Dax who helped us. protect it and now we're like moving. towards creating this giant protected. area well this yes I'm sure we'll. energize that even further so what what. what can anybody do if they're hearing. this and they're I mean obviously this. resonates with everyone this is a your.

story is so incredible and just this. calling that you have to that and the. fact that it really has happened and you. you've become a part of protecting it. what what can anybody do that's. listening to this um Jungle keepers.com. we have monthly donors we do trips to. the Amazon we have ways to get involved. with the local people that are now. protecting their rainforest it's this is. totally an indigenous le e effort um and. it's you know you I don't I don't know. how these other organizations work what. I do know is that you know when I went.

down there and JJ was like we have to. protect this we started jungle Keepers. as a way to just take guys that were. loggers and give them a different job. give them a better life it's like. everyone's winning we're saving the. ecosystem we're giving these people. better life when people support jungle. Keepers like we have like monthly donors. and people they come and visit us in the. field some people don't some people give. us money and they're like look I don't I. don't ever want to go anywhere near the. jungle but I'm glad it. exists um now we're trying to take. people up into the canopy and even that.

we're providing people with jobs as. chefs and boat drivers and guides and. taking a small sustainable amount of. people into a really beautiful place. instead of ruining it with trails and. people in garbage it's like we're just. going to do it right and keep it. pristine and keep it wild um so we're. doing everything we can we're studying. this place we're working in every way. possible at the statement the millions. and millions and millions of hard. heartbeats that are in every square acre. of this rainforest it's just like it's. that feeling I get that feeling every. time where it's like you said with the. Stars where you look out there and you.

just go this is so incredible that you. feel like you've just been like. energized by some some other Force you. feel completely connected to everything. and it's it's you're you're you're. tapping into the mains you're connecting. to like the thing that vibrates it all. it's a strange thing when you're in. nature like I've never been to the. Amazon but in nature it's just in. general en there's a feeling that you. get almost like you're on a substance. like you're on a you're you're connected. to a vibe that doesn't exist in the.

urban world in in the concrete jungle. that we live in it does it doesn't exist. so when you go there it's all a sudden. they're like oh this thing this thing. that I feel it's like you're you're. you're tuned into it it's connected to. you and we're not connected when we're. in cities it's like this weird bluntness. and dullness to it yeah I think it's. just it's throwing a fish back into. water I think that we belong out there. and I think that we've we've amputated. oursel from that and so when we go back. out into wild places we're like yes yeah.

despite our Evolution and the the. technological innovation we're still. biologically that same creature that. coexists yeah with nature not it's it's. we just removed from the experience for. the most part yeah which frustrates me I. like I I got I got Shell Shocked man. I've been jumping in a river for showers. for the last few few months and it's. like take a shower in a cold tiled room. the other day like I was like just took. like a normal shower and I was shocked. by it I was like where's where are the. stars like wow what a weird ex how do.

you feel how long are you going to do. this for do you have like a grand plan. is this just your life now um well no. you can't keep doing this like so like. yeah that's what I was thinking that. first of all when you start something. like this like there's. no there's no plan like you just start. um and actually you know I've heard. actually I always I always thought of. this thing and then I actually heard a. clip of you saying it but it's like you. know if you're going to go after. something it's like pretend it's a what. would the character in the movie be. doing yeah you know like if you're going.

after something and it's like in terms. of being productive in terms of just. continuing to chase the thing and it's. like when you start. something um like trying to stop the. global March of of destruction of the of. wildlife it's like you you are going to. fail the fact that we in this tiny. little place are notching a wind like. that is that is incredible but it takes. an an extreme toll um having so much. uncertainty that I'm going to leave here. and fly back down there and go running. into the Amazon fires and just broadcast.

that to everybody because that's what. gets people excited that's what gets. people to understand what we're losing. because you have to show them the beauty. and then show it being destroyed and be. like we can stop this and so like my my. plan is I want to in the next. year protect the rest of this River now. how much do you have to worry about your. own personal safety now because what. you're talking about with the gold. miners and this they know who you are. and people know who you are now and the. more you get this message out the more. you're going to become a problem for.

them the gold miners yes but I I stay. away from the gold mining because I'll. get whacked pretty quick over there the. the loggers on the other hand I just. make friends man these guys the last. year there was a rainy night and we were. all hanging out at the research station. and some loggers like showed up and they. came in and we were like hey and like we. like let them we had we had power we let. them charge their phone we gave them. some hot coffee and stuff and it was. like we made friends with them we had we. had some drinks with them now a few of. them are working for me and it's like.

dude we just keep making friends and. they protect us there's an understanding. like they're just doing what they have. to do to surv they're just doing what. they have to do to survive the loggers. like the guys on the ground they're not. bad. guys again a lot of them are really good. friends of mine they're just working. yeah they're just they're just working. they're coming from other parts of Peru. a lot of them have families and maybe. their father was a logger or maybe their. friends was a logger and so like they go. out and there's not a l lot of stuff you. can do out in the Amazon either a. fisherman or a logger or something but. if you're living that half life where. you have to make your living off the. jungle but then go buy a house in in in.

town it's like well that's a hard thing. to you know and it's like or you could. just sell it all and go get an office. job or something you know it's like. there's not a lot of great options for. that so like they are in a tough. position and so whether it's whether. it's in the and that's the other thing. that I'm in grand plan trying to look. forward is like a way of first of all. getting conservation aists paid because. I know people all over the incredible. conservationists all over the world who. like are doing this work protecting. species and no one's paying them to do. it they're just out there doing the work.

um and then allowing local people to. find a way of like being. supported in that transition so that you. don't have to be you know taking. somebody that used to be a rhino poacher. and making them a ranger you know how. the Rhino poaching Works let's let's go. catch Rhino poachers how fast can we. turn people around to that and then make. protected areas that are beautiful. enough that we can bring people and then. have them have jobs and it's like. there's a there is a solution to this.

and so finding that solution and. exporting it so if we save this River if. we're successful in Saving this River. the true change then will come in in. sort of applying that to somewhere else. well then maybe there's a river in the. Congo where that's going to happen we're. going to lose all the beautiful pristine. medicines and Wildlife that's there and. the herds of elephants well we can we. can f figure out how do we do it here. let's do it there it's like this can. catch fire and it's like people more and. more and more through this storytelling. through social media through all this. stuff it's like we're getting more and.

more support because people want to help. nobody I don't think if you asked. anybody if you said like what do you. think about polar bears I don't think. anybody be you know be like I hate polar. bears I want them to go extinct I don't. think anybody's on you know not too many. people are going to say that and say. look we we can save the ecosystems and. all the beautiful things I mean it's not. that difficult all we're doing is asking. people to not cut down trees and the. exciting thing is that now we're. actually having success with that and. it's because people are helping us get. the message out it's because people are.

like sharing it and taking action that's. why I asked you about Slash because he's. been he actually reached out to Jungle. Keepers and he was like dude I want to. protect the ring oh that's awesome yeah. I I got to see him play I was actually. backstage it was insane I sat on the. stage with my family and watched in. Greece in Athens wow three- hour show. insane so and it's hot out they're. literally slash was Dripping sweat like. it was F like you're watching them play. and sweat is flying off of his body and.

falling onto the ground I mean it's hot. as [ __ ] out there it's an outdoor show. three hours [ __ ] 60 years old going hard. for three hours love to see that it was. incredible I would love to he loves. snakes he loves snakes huge huge lover. of animals in general yeah the whole. thing was insane I just randomly ran. into Axel Rose uh at a restaurant did he. just like Point At You like no no uh I. was with my friend uh Brian mesu who uh. wrote the book The immortality key and.

uh just happened to align perfectly. where he was going to be in Greece when. I was in Greece the immortality key is a. book about the ilian Mysteries and about. how in ancient Greece they had these. ceremonies that they would do where they. were taking psychedelics and it's been. proven now because of the wine vessels. they they did a study of the wine. vessels and they show that they have. urgod inside of them and urgod is a. fungus that creates an LSD like effect. and so they know that they were mixing. their wine with these potent.

psychedelics and having these ceremonies. these intense sort of wellu guarded and. secretive ceremonies and he wrote this. amazing book on it now it's started a. field of study at Harvard it's it's. incredible and there's been a lot of. scholarship on it and for the longest. time it was dismissed like in the 19 7s. this guy wrote about it and they I mean. he basically like wrote him off as an. intellectual they're like this. Preposterous but now there's physical.

proof and people are much more open to. the idea of the Ancients using. psychedelics and so I just by sheer luck. was in the same place with him at the. same time and he took me and my family. on a tour of these ruins it was. incredible so we're having dinner and. we're you know it's getting late like in. Greece they stay up late man they're. eating late at night and drinking and. we're like we're staying at this place. that is a view of the Acropolis it's. insane and uh my friend Brian comes back. from the bathroom he's like hey Axel. Rose is here and I'm like that's crazy.

and we had to walk by him because the. way to leave you're walking by his booth. and so I was like do I say hi I guess I. have to say hi like I hope he knows who. I am and then I said hi and not only. know who I am he knew some of my bits he. was asking me about comedy and he asked. me do you want to come to see the show. I'm like [ __ ] yeah so he invited us to. the show it was insane that's incredible. it was so cool and my daughter is a huge. Guns and Roses fan so she freaked out oh. that's awesome yeah my my youngest. daughter has incredible Taste of music. she loves Nirvana and like just all this.

weird stuff she listen you listen to the. kiss I'm like you're in the kiss this is. incred she's [ __ ] 13 there something. so comforting about that no when like a. kid is like I like the music she's got. super eclectic interesting taste in. music and she's always listening to new. music you know that's one of the cool. things about things like Spotify is like. you get suggested other songs you to a. bad s and all sudden they're suggesting. a Pink Floyd song and you're listening. to all this stuff that you know as a. 13-year-old with you know modern. playlist you probably wouldn't be really.

introduced to and then they know what. songs you like they like they continue. giving sounds like that one of these. I'll do I I do go to Radio like I'll. find a song I love and then I'll do go. to Radio and then I'll start doing [ __ ]. and I keep I keep I keep Harding songs. I've discovered so much new music so. many new artists it's it's yeah that's. really cool that's a really cool aspect. of today but um so anyway the show was. incredible and I didn't get to meet. slash I only got to meet Axel but I met.

one of the other band members too okay. it was pretty dope yeah well I'm going. to take slash to the jungle and I want. to hear wow he looks like he belongs. there so sweaty and if you saw him in. grease man covered in sweat holy [ __ ] is. he. talented oh incredible it's incredible I. me he's one of the best right one of the. best ever like the band is so good good. it's like you forget how many hits they. have and then it's like 3 hours in. you're like oh yes patience oh my God. you know Paradise City oh [ __ ] it was it.

was an amazing show it was amazing show. I've been a fan of them since like the. [ __ ] 80s I used to lift weights to. them and Revere Massachusetts in 1988. you know and so here I am those are rock. gods man I mean what you got the. stones uh them who El I saw them. recently tooon I saw the stones about a. year and a half ago here at uh the. Circuit of the Americas they had this. giant Outdoor Show amazing you can't. believe they're really there it's like. when I'm watching on stage I I was like.

is that really Mick Jagger he's right. there because it sounds like it's like a. historical thing it's like Ringo still. out there somewhere like well no that's. like a few years ago they were like. Chuck Barry died and I was like Chuck. Barry was alive right right I had no. idea yeah I remember that I was like. WAOW I thought chck Chuck Barry was. those guys are still doing it to doing. it when I was a kid like there was no. old rock stars like rock star it was. such a recent and so many of them died. young you know hris and you know.

Morrison and Janice Joplin so many of. them died young it was like a normal. thing that they were just gonna die. Young's Instagram page it's MC Jagger's. birthday today oh my god oh wow how old. there we go happy birthday MC Jagger. he's as old as Biden wow that's insane. he's like doing back flips on stage. doing three- hour shows and he carries. he has two trailers filled with gym. equipment he works out every day MC. Jagger works out every day he's he's.

famous for it like he's got this. rigorous routine that he does every day. he does yoga he does weights he does all. these different exercises he's like. incredibly. fit so yeah I mean because you you're. always you're always talking about the. the how rigorously you have to work out. you got to get that out of you yeah and. I always feel like that if I'm not out. in the field I have to I there there's. something I have to leave on the mat I. have to I have to go sweat it out yeah. he says that and then what's what's the. guy's name Dick Van djk right the guy. from Mary Poppins when he was really old.

I think he was on like Letterman or Leno. or something and they were like you. should write a book you're so like. you're so old but you're so like it fit. and everything else he goes yeah he goes. I could write a book he goes but it. would be one line keep moving he's like. just keep moving yeah don't get. sedentary yeah he still Al to Dick Van. djk yep yeah there you go yeah he's. still out there smiling I think he's got. a young wife too let's go dick he's. working out or something yeah. damn look at him.

no yeah he's that wild old man I'm. having that experience where I wish you. didn't show me that oh yeah one those. things had a different image of what he. was going to look like a different image. yeah he got old yeah that's what happens. even if you keep moving a certain point. in time time gets you he's I mean he's. amazing yeah yeah but. you you do have to do something your. body requires it and if you don't it. will deteriorate on you some people some. people don't some people seem to be. happy to just Coast from thing to thing.

to thing and you ever like meet somebody. that just doesn't work out oh a lot of a. comic I know a lot of comics that [ __ ]. they don't do [ __ ] just look at some. people I'm like you you're happy you're. just going to go to sleep and you're. going to wake up and there's no like you. don't like charge into battle like put. some you know yeah I just think it takes. all different types of folks to make. this world go oh it sure does and. there's a lot of people that just. operate on completely different energy. completely different needs completely. different interests no I mean I if I if.

I don't get that I feel like you know. that's what me and a golden retriever. have in common it's like if you don't. get that energy out if you don't just. yeah he has to work out right isn't he. crazy if you don't work him out yeah he. he loves to chase the ball and then he's. cool we go swimming then he's cool he. just needs you know he's an animal he. needs stuff needs activities I respect I. love like I love you know like a dog you. wake him up you go you want to jump in a. freezing cold River and they're like yes. hell yeah it's like what like yo it's. snowing outside at 3 in the morning.

they're like yes and they go outside and. they roll in it and it's like sometimes. I try to be that like you know. especially joyful so joyful and so. impervious to like I'll be warm later. you know I'll be comfortable later I'll. be less wet later like you know they. just charge into everything and it's so. you never see a wolf be like I don't. want to right like they're just like. yeah I'm going to do it well the. connection that dogs have with people is. so bizarre cuz it's so manufactured it's. so strange that like that dog Marshall. was in his ancestry was a wolf yeah like.

what did we do what did we do we made. him so pretty and fluffy he took a wolf. and turned it into like the least. intimidating most. loving no no worries about it turning on. you or anything no no challenges to you. it's just all love oh I mean I had I've. been out and I've been camping with mik. goldens and like they get scared and. come to me yeah you know it's we we turn. them into during fourth of July he was. freaked out like we were in the house.

and it wasn't even loud in our house but. you know Texas doesn't [ __ ] around with. fireworks they shoot off real fireworks. in people's backyards so we were there. and you hear Boom Boom it's not even. that loud but in the distance for him. he's. like up they're coming so we're were. watching TV on the couch he's hopping on. on me and he's hopping on my wife he's. hopping on my kids he's going back and. forth like almost like he's letting us. know you guys someone's shooting out. there you know it's like some part of.

him was like completely freaked out by. it no it's adorable I love I love how. um just har harmless they are it's just. wonderful to have such a you know I've. had Shepherds I've had other been around. other dogs been around wolf dogs and. they're impressive and they have other. qualities but there is something so. wonderful to that just pure love yeah. they're just a pet yeah yeah it's just. AET they're just a pet just a loving. member of your family that is murderous. to squirrels murderous to squirrels and. I I severely believe that if somebody.

broke into my. house all they have to do is pet them. yeah you know what I mean like they're. not really going to know I don't you. know I don't think they're like tuned. into danger Like a Shepherd is or pull. is I mean these are you know our family. dogs they've never experienced danger. right you know you can go like this and. they're like what what's going on yeah. what's going on you waving you GNA right. right they don't care. yeah I know it's just it's an amazing. thing but it's also weird it's so it's. like what a beautiful creation but also. so strange that we have subverted nature.

in some bizarre way that's turned this. Predator this hunting pack Predator into. this family creature that's like. literally one of the family like. Marshall is he's one of my children yeah. you know the only time the only time. that gets too much for me is when you. get down to like the those little. bulldogs that can't breathe oh God like. where I feel like that's abusive. breeding it's weird it's weird it's a. weird like why' you want that thing like. that they're really cute you ever see. that Meme where they're like pug owners. isn't he so cute and they're like the.

Pug and it's like a picture of Steve. Bushi in that Adam Sandler movie with. his eyeballs going different ways yeah. there they're [ __ ] Chihuahuas too. some of them with their [ __ ] tongues. hanging out their eyes are sideways like. yeah like why'd you do that yeah what is. that why you did that it's a weird breed. it is so it's so weird but but at the. same time it's it's very I think it's. great that we that we can have this this. incredibly loyal like I was just reading. something that chimps don't take IQs. from humans like dogs you know you know.

you look at your dog y you just look at. the leash you look at the door and the. dog really they they are so locked into. US yeah and like no other animal does. that right and like I've seen an. elephant identify a pregnant person I. saw an elephant walk up to a woman touch. her on the stomach and then like call. the other elephants and be like yo this. one's pregnant and they all started they. knew [ __ ] we don't know she was like. this is cool she has a baby and they. were like more careful the elephant. thing is so bizarre because they. recognize each other after Decades of. being a part that they're so smart that.

I think when I look at an elephant I. see a nonhuman being I don't look at it. like there's animals and there's. cockroaches and there's dogs and there's. rhinos and cows and all that [ __ ] that's. fine when I look at an. elephant I look at it and I'm like you. they treat you like an animal. but they shouldn't I've seen them do. things that are so intelligent I've seen. them be so compassionate that I think. that we are just not smart enough to.

understand how smart that they. are and and just because they're not. changing their environment and typing. things and we just have a distorted idea. of intelligence I think that yeah well. like you said your intelligence is the. ability to interact with your. environment and survive in it and it's. like they've gardened all of the habitat. that they exist in like when you watch. an elephant twisting branches and. creating that that environment and. they're going and grazing around on on. everything and moving that forest and. there's mushrooms growing out of their.

the piles of [ __ ] that they leave and. it's just like there's so much elephant. dung and there's so much complex. structure and and the thing is as a. human usually what we do is we watch. either we watch elephants in the zoo. where you're looking at basically like a. mentally deranged elephant that's been. kept in a box its whole life or you're. in like a game drive vehicle and you. drive up to elephants in the field and. they're like ah [ __ ] humans and then. they like walk off very rarely do we get. to see human um elephants alone in.

nature problem solving and so like then. you'll get these articles where. scientists will be like we gave. elephants like a a key and a lock and so. many of them couldn't figure it out it's. like well that's you're giving elephants. a human problem to solve you're not. giving them an elephant problem to. solve one time I was I was I was with a. I had a Jeep and it had a whole thing of. bananas in it and I was working with. this elephant he was a he was a bandit. he had been mugging banana guys there's. a road that went through the jungle and. this elephant was going out and he would.

stop them he would stop the truck and. then the other elephants would come and. they would mug the banana guy so by the. time he got to where he was going he. wouldn't have any bananas so the Indian. Forest Department had to show up and. they like Shackled this poor elephant. his name was Dharma and they like threw. him in elephant jail I have a picture of. elephant jail on there um but he one day. he caught me with bananas and he came up. to the Jeep and he was like yo bananas. and of course I'm looking up at him like. Hey do a good boy good boy he like. pushed me to the side he was like you. don't call me good boy that's elephant.

jail um but yeah he took the Jeep and he. shouldered it put it up on two wheels. made dead ass eye contact with me and he. was like you g to give me the bandanas. or not and I was like just put the Jeep. just put you know I was in this suddenly. I was in an argument that I couldn't win. with an elephant I was like please put. the put the car down he put the car down. and then I was like come on come over. this put it up eventually I had to give. him the bananas or he was he and he was. threatening me he pushed it up just. enough and stopped and looked at me wow.

he was like you want me to do. this because it seems like you like it. when it's this side up I don't know. though and I was like it was it was. actually terrifying in that moment. because I was like I can't overpower you. I can't like threaten you with there's. there's no way for me as a smart human. to win this argument and he just looked. at. me and then he got his bananas and the. next day when he did it uh my friend ni. had a hack for it she was the one who. was really in charge of this but she. would go and take a cup of water and.

throw it at his face he would slap him. in you know he'd be like I hate that and. then he'd like get upset and walk away. but but they really uh it's surprising. like d Jane Goodall changed Humanity. being like uh you know she discovered. that that animals use tools and it's. like you watch elephants they use tools. all day long you know like I've seen an. elephant like rip off a stick and like. use that to scratch and like oh that's a. good spot yeah they're so they're just. they're just brilliant they're just. brilliant they know where seen those uh. videos of uh elephant's.

painting I'm skeptical already but no. what are they paint you never seen it no. they taught an elephant to paint an. elephant and the elephant's literally. painting a trunk really and painting. yeah it's impressive I don't doubt it I. just wonder what the Inc I mean I guess. like everything didn't they send us one. they sent us a painting that one of the. elephants had made a painting of an buy. an elephant they make things like they I. don't know how they're teaching them how. to make these shapes I don't know if the. elephant recognizes that it's making the. image of an elephant or if they've.

taught them to make specific shapes I. don't know what they do but this here. we'll show you a video okay but these. elephants take a paintbrush they put it. in their trunk and they dip the paint. and start working on canvas I mean I. don't doubt it I honestly I wouldn't put. much past an elephant and I mean they. they look at this so here's this. elephant and they give this elephant and. this is all real video I thought like. this is pre-ai [ __ ] too so this elephant.

he puts the paintbrush in the elephant's. trunk and the elephant walks up to the. pallet come on to the canv and starts. painting starts painting this girlfriend. look at. this also look look at how dextrous that. trunk is yeah look at the control that. he and see it's looking like it's it's. creating something that mimics what what. it. is and so this guy has to dip the paint.

for it it gives it back to the elephant. I wonder why they I wonder why he dips. the paint for him wow look at that you. can already see going to be an elephant. because so the paint I don't think the. elephant totally understands it needs. more paint you know it knows when it. gives it the brush the paints on it. that's what makes me think look at this. man oh look at that he even has the the. mouth yeah look at this that's a better. elephant than most people could draw. yeah better than like most kids for sure. like look at this it's really incredible. but it's somehow or another it's it's.

not being guided so it it knows how to. do this yeah I it just my my gut says. that that there's something gimmicky. about this I don't know yeah like I mean. you could train you can train a lot of. behaviors right but how is it training. it to make these shapes which is so. specific it's literally drawing. itself I would like an. explanation like like cuz it's really. good like look how it makes it it does. the legs the legs are proportionate the. mouth is good the trunk is up it's like.

oh God yeah no I there was did you did. you cut that Jamie or did I just I'm. skipping ahead 15 minute video I was. going to be like I call [ __ ] cuz an. eyeball yeah don't skip ahead just let. it play out because let's just take a. look at how it it's doing this so now. it's doing. flowers the I read that it's it's they. trained to do this but of course they're. trained but like what is this thing. seeing does it know that I mean you have. to train a child to paint too wait but. you know they they use medicine like.

they've they've documented elephants. eating plants that induce labor that. African tribes use and then they they. found the elephant doing it there's. published papers on this what elephants. use medicine what yeah what kind of. plants that they find indued labor I. wish I remembered the name of it I was. just I was just looking this up cuz. somebody told me and I didn't believe. him but there's there's a plant that. that helps induce labor in some African. tribes that they chew when mothers are. like right on the cusp of giving birth. and this one researcher found elephants.

eating a ton of this stuff and then. having babies and then went back and. studied it again and again wow elephants. might be able to self-medicate to induce. labor. wow like this world is. wild God that's so interesting what do. is so the they know that the elephants. have been trained right but yeah that's. I was going to get into something so. trained to make that specific image but. still try getting a dog to do that it's.

not going to be able to do that how. smart is that damn thing I mean that's. the thing I think I think that's I think. what I'm struggling to to get out here. is that you can train a dog to do very. complex tasks like a sheep dog or like. that guy who has like you know like 400. different things and he goes you know. get the ball get the sponge get the. thing but like that to me is still a. gimmick whereas like the fact that they. have culture the fact that elephants. have taught other elephants that you can. chew on this when you need to have a. baby they have [ __ ] that we're not.

realizing like we just look at them. we're like oh they're giant grass eating. o octopus face things like with. butterfly ears like cool why not right. but it's like if we spend that time or. the fact that they do the the the low. vibration communication where they can. communicate through the Earth where they. Rumble and they can send like you know. there's water over here come and like we. can't hear that what are they doing when. they're doing that they're pounding on. the ground like how are they no they're. rumbling and they're sending through. those so they an elephant skeletal. structure like it's like the the the. foot is up and so the whole bottom of.

their foot I once had an elephant step. on my foot and it's it doesn't hurt as. much as you think because it's very soft. under there and so they can actually. like Rumble and transmit information so. they shake their body no they're it's a. it's a it's in inside of. them and it transmits it through the. ground yeah and like vast dist too Miles. and Miles wow yes oh my God yes no that. this is this is elephants can. communicate in a way that we can't hear. using the.

Earth is that the sound of it that's. what it says it says I mean there's. obviously some other you can hear that. low frequency Rumble it's very. low wow it's like a whale wow they're. like Avatar creatures right another one. look at look at that how crazy they. are. wow that's amazing and they're.

talking this is great we should we. should we should we should always have. this soundtrack on I love this yeah I. should go to bed to this this is like a. warm blanket this is wonderful yeah you. know how people like sleep with the. static sound sleep to this oh oh what. dreams you would have my. God don't lose this l I'm going to. listen to that that's amazing I did not. know they did that yeah but like the. fact that they're transmitting like I. don't I don't know I actually don't know. how complex it gets but like that they. can be like hey you know there's water.

over here guys you know or that there's. Simple Communications like I know vervet. monkeys have different calls for um. aerial Predator versus lion versus. whatever so they actually have like a. type of you know dialogue they can talk. to a degree it's like I've heard that. monkeys even trick each other like when. some monkeys are going after fruit a. monkey will make the sound of like an. eagle and then the other monkeys take. off and then they'll run and steal the. fruit why not why not why not deception. it's so smart deception in the monkey.

Community yeah it's wild man that that. sound thing incredible that was really. awesome I have this monkey video queued. up you wanted to show a long time ago oh. hell yeah I just we were talking about. the things we eat in the jungle and I. was telling about the bamboo and the. things and the other things and I just I. wanted to show you this is one of let me. just set this up for you this is one of. my friends who used to be a logger this. is one of the guys that's like been at. war with the uncontacted tribes this is. his daughter and she's six this was the. other day and I found her sitting there. and I said what is your favorite food.

and she went this and. then I just watched her rip into this. thing and just her favorite food is. monkey. yeah yeah in the beginning of the video. I'm like what's your favorite food and. she's like monkey oh my God there's. something so. bizarre about watching a child eat a. monkey head that's I mean she's like. really getting into that [ __ ] she's like. in the tendons in the brain oh. boy did you try monkey yeah no I helped.

her with that one because she. couldn't what does monkey taste like um. I mean that not very good cuz they just. they don't they just like throw it on. the fire but um if it's if it's prepared. okay and again you know I always get. like a bar I get that thing where people. it's like devoted my life to protecting. the rainforest and then people like how. could you pick up that snake you were. torturing it it's like you got to deal. with those people and it's like yeah we. eat monkeys guys like in the jungle like. when you're hanging out with local. people they eat monkeys and if you're at.

their house you eat a monkey too how. often do they eat monkeys all the time. all the time. man um but no somebody handed me a a. plate not that long ago we got to this. community we actually went with jungle. Keepers we were like we get to this. communic this community and they come. out with macaa and robes on and [ __ ] and. they they give us this bowl and they're. like welcome eat and the bowl we looked. at and we were all like side eyeing each. other and we're like oh [ __ ] and it had. a monkey hand it had a piece of a taper.

it had a piranha and it had the foot of. a yellow-footed tortoise which looks. like Bowser's foot from Super Mario like. it was this big scaly gnarly thing with. rice and they were like welcome and then. like you you can't be like ew you have. to be like thank you. whoa and you're like eating this bowl. it's like new at the. zoo fuing it's like it's like guys I. really wanted to protect the animals.

what does the foot taste like the foot. was the best thing in the bowl really. yeah cuz the monkey hand was like senu. and disgusting and um taper I feel too. bad eating a te I don't want to eat a t. that's that's it so I was actually able. to use the foot like those those big. scales like there claws at the end so. you could actually kind of use it as. like this giant spoon for the rice and. so we're all just like sitting there in. this really really remote Community. worrying about getting shot and just. like playing with all the different. animals in our bowl and like and you. have to eat it all right I mean you got.

to eat it all otherwise you look like a. you look like a stupid Gringo if you. don't right you know cuz all the local. guys are like dude give me your foot. give me your foot can I have the hand. and they're like do you want the balls. and they're like somebody give me taper. balls and like everyone's fighting over. everything and so like if you're like no. thank you it's like well you're just not. you know I want them I my reputation. down there I'm like I want to be seen. yeah in with them respecting their way. of life their local Customs how many. monkeys you think you've. eaten I'll tell you when we're off. the no I've I've probably a handful of.

times had monkey the the sickest I've. ever been was for monkey as well because. they left it out all day they don't have. refrigeration oh boy so somebody cooked. me monkey and then I ate it and then I. like I like walked out back and I was. like is that the other half of the. monkey you just cooked me and they're. like yeah and it was like covered in. flies and it was like had been out all. day it was complete rancid so it's. basically I just ate roadkill oh boy and. I was that was the sickest I've ever oh. this this one got some controversy man. this poor little dyra is just trying to. eat her dinner and everyone freaked out.

and what is she eating there that's a. turtle a turtle yeah and people are mad. that she's eating a turtle oh the. comment section on this are garbage fire. so she was I me I'm literally she was. just eating dinner and I was just taking. a video of her um but I mean people were. like how could you let her do this and I. was like let her eat yeah Jesus what are. you talking about I was like but she's. adorable she's so tough she uh she. actually I saw her the last time I saw. her she was she took her she took an axe. and she like broke open this log and she. pulled out this grub that was bigger.

than my thumb and she was like eat it. and I was like I don't want it and she. was like why not and I was like you're. six I was like cuz I don't want grub. right now and she just took it and bit. you know the pincers on the face of it. she like bit the pincers off she's like. what about now and I realized this kid. was like you afraid to eat a grub uh. so then of course I ate like 10 grubs. and I was like there okay and like we. had this like but like she's tough like. that she grew up in the jungle. challenging you yeah she senses that. you're a little bit of an outsider yeah.

like I didn't she was just like are you. as comfortable with this as I am and I. was like oh I was not prepared for that. it's like let me put down what I'm doing. and and eat more grubs than you kid. what's a grub taste. like uh brainy grass it's mushy the. worst thing about a grub is that if you. don't cook them and you just like or. when you start to cook them when the. nematodes come out of them when the. parasites that are living in the grubs. come out oh yeah so I mean nothing seems. to happen usually I think I you have to. cook them you should cook them was she.

cooking them Shea oh boy no she was. eating them like popcorn I couldn't keep. all these videos I've heard just eat it. they're hysterical and then they had a. baby he's got a baby it's like a it's he. was like an infant and they the the mom. is popping them in the baby little. little tiny soft ones without the. pincers but she's popping them in and. like the whole family like it was like. you got popcorn at the movie theater. it's like we couldn't you couldn't fight. over it fast enough everybody wanted a. grub and then she just picked the. biggest gnarliest [ __ ] with the. gnarliest fangs and she was like put.

this in your mouth are they nutritious. they're very nutritious really oh. they're amazing yeah no and if you cook. them they are delicious Su yeah they're. sweet uh no they call them Suri oh Su. they like they'll stick a bunch of them. on a stick and then fry them and stuff. there's a bunch of what does it taste. like when you fry them when you fry them. it's crunchy it's good good like that. you I I guarantee if you blindfolded. somebody and fed them fried grubs they. would be totally stoked about it really. yeah oh yeah no they're. delicious shout out to Roy Rael for.

making the best fried. grubs yeah no so that could be like a. menu item some like you go to Peru and. like oh there they. are alive on the skewers yeah but like. I've seen like the way people give like. a baby a lollipop or something so this. is like a Market where they're just. cooking them on the market yeah these. guys seem to be enjoying them they do. look kind of tasty yeah Wow Let's e. grubs D you have a fascinating life have.

a weird life it's pretty weird but it's. pretty [ __ ] cool yeah well dude I've. been I I've been waiting so long to say. thank you face to face and I mean it. thank you so much really it really. really altered how things went I. appreciate you altering the entire. course of of everything and making it. possible to protect all those Heartbeats. it's a crazy place you should come see. it sometime you it's my pleasure and I I. thank you for what you're doing and I. thank you for coming here and I I hope. more people will understand and more. people get involved now because of this.

because of this conversation I think. they will yeah let's save an entire. river that c that. insane Carnival of life let's let's. protect that enti listen I think we. could do this kind of show a bunch of. times too so like anytime new things are. coming on and new things are happening. or anything you want to talk about let's. do it all right man as soon as I get. some weird new parasites I was yo I was. thinking I was actually thinking of uh. trying to keep the bot fly I was like. we're going to take it out on no no it's. no need video is good enough I'm. positive unless you want to eat it.

afterwards Jes show me how tough you are. yikes do they eat bot flies they cook. them no no no no um no that's taking it. too far they cook tarantulas I know that. right tarantulas um apparently taste. like crab I've never actually had one I. mean I've eaten pretty much everything. but I've never had a tarantula. apparently David Goods people the Y they. do that they up some nice. tarantulas well listen man thank you so. much for being here and thank you for. everything that you're doing it's it's. courageous it's amazing it's inspiring. it's really interesting and uh your book.

which is available right now mother God. yeah I'm listening to it on audio right. now it's incredible so thank you thanks. for being here man let's do it again. thank you so much my pleasure all right. bye everybody. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music].