Joe Rogan Experience #1985 - Steven Wright

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe. Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan. podcast by night all. day it's fun hanging out with you last. night yeah that. was you know when you're in one of those. rooms backstage it's the. same yeah it's the same Vibe it's the. same. fun even if you don't you don't know the.

actual people it's connection yeah in a. good room yeah yeah we're all having fun. tell telling jokes it's nice the setup. is so nice too because where the Green. Room is it's in between the two rooms so. you can go to one room and watch and. then you go to the other room like. because we have the balcony set up yeah. it's very nice it's very very convenient. and that actually was the projector room. for the theater so we converted.

projector room for the theater into a. green. room it's perfect it's a perfect. position because it's in between the two. rooms so you got people go and leave and. go and come back from the set and then. they can you can see them doing it on. the monitor you can see them on the. monitor or you could just step off into. the balcony because we have that Comics. balcony so you could watch like if. you're on stage I could just sit up. there and watch I don't have to go. downstairs it's very nice it's fun vibe. right absolutely it's great for me to. watch Someone Like You appreciate it.

like go and and check it out and. go yeah it's like the you know right. from the beginning the same no matter. where you go I mean if it's a good. place I would have stayed longer. but I didn't want to uh is this going. now yeah we're going I don't see her uh. you don't hear yourself no maybe because. I'm not maybe because I'm not listening. is that good do you hear it now no not. at all no might have to bail on the.

headsets and go with real. ones oh there it is you got it okay yeah. real ones I made these in your in your. wood shop metal. shop when you when you started out uh. was it the dingho days was that like the. first place where you start like what. was it like what year did you start out. first of all July 79 oh wow what was the.

scene like well it was the comedy. connection the little one. downstairs still there no it was it was. uh on Warrington Street it was street. level that was the first. one before Nicks before Nicks so it was. the same comedy store or excuse me the. same um one that was uh the Charles. Playhouse right yeah yeah you got. straight in yeah and it was right in.

there it was an amazing room yeah little. like 150 people probably I don't even. think that many maybe 100 maybe. 90 that was the first ceiling yeah yell. low that's where. I I went to see an open mic there and. then I. thought I what I was doing is I was you. know into comedy from watching The. Tonight Show that's when I really got. like oh these comedian You Know Carl and.

Robert. Klein all these guys I had to watch this. night show cuz my brother was older than. me and we had to watch what he. wanted so I you know I started watching. then I started to like it and then I I. heard that there was a club in town and. I. thought I should go around you know I. was 16 when I really was into it but. then when I was about 23 I heard of the. club.

and I thought well maybe I got to go try. it out I I wouldn't have to move to Los. Angeles or New York and I didn't I my. character then I couldn't have 23 I'm. not going to move to Los Angeles it was. like. a that was too much for me so I went to. the comedy connection and I watched the. show and then I learned that there was a. the open mic night was every Wednesday.

so then I thought I'm going to go back. in two. weeks do you remember your first. set I don't remember I remember the. first joke was but I don't remember the. rest of it was I said I uh went into a a. bookstore and I T started talking to. this very French looking girl she was a. bilingual illiterate she couldn't read. in two different. languages and then it and that's how you.

started yeah I had about three minutes. so did you always write in that style. like the sort of non Seer. absurdist no see I didn't even write. anything till I went to the open m. watched the show and when I knew I was. going back in two weeks during that two. weeks I wrote things but I had never. written comedy at all right but when you. first started writing comedy it was. always that style it was about 70% like. like that it was more.

like. normalice and I don't know why it came. out like that I. mean I I you know I was influenced by. Carl. and talking about everyday little things. and that's what I I said oh I'm going to. do that and then the structure of a joke. was from listening to Woody Allen's. standup. albums but that I hadn't no that's just.

how it came out with those two. influences plus my own mind well that's. where it gets interesting right because. in your own mind because because you. have a totally different style than. anybody else in B well really anybody. else in the country but in Boston at. that time there was a lot of guys like. Lenny Clark and Steve Sweeney and Don. Gavin there was all these like very very. funny comics great great every guy you. mentioned is hilar top of the food chain.

I tell everybody to this day that those. days when in the 1980s when I lived in. Boston those were some of the best. Comics that have ever lived those guys. were murderers I totally agree with you. they were so good you would go there at. any given night you'd watch Sweeney just. destroy Nick's comedy Stu and he was so. [ __ ] good his timing was so good so. much energy and you know and there was. so much stuff about Boston and Boston. people just [ __ ] love that [ __ ].

every one of those guys is different. than the other guy Mike Donovan movan. Kenny Rogerson so prolific Mike Donovan. unbelievably hilarious yeah so many good. guys. Lenny mean Lenny Clark so funny God damn. he's funny just great guys too it's just. like such a was a very unusual group of. artists because they're these wild kind. of partying guys.

but they had like real like rigid rules. about don't be a hack and don't be a. thief and don't be a this and you know. and do good comedy and they all just. wanted to kill and it was there was no. real. Showbiz sort of like uh pot of gold at. the end of the rainbow it was really. just being a headliner just killing it's. all they did and there was no show. business there there were no agents no. producers no one to say oh you should do. why are you doing it like that like you. doing it was like being on an Island.

that's how I've described it when we all. started like the club started in 79 so. everyone started maybe one year before. one Year everyone just started at once. and we were all learning how to do it it. was weird how it lined up it wasn't like. that club was there for 10 years the. club opens and everyone you just said. comes and it just. begins like where was it before wasn't.

wasn't anywhere like Jay Leno was there. before but he would play The Playboy. club and it wasn't actually a comedy. club before this comedy. connection yeah it's Fran Alam did a. great job of capturing it in that. documentary when standup stood out yeah. brilliant great great documentary I. agree but about what a strange scene it. was and it was arguably the best scene. in the country might not have been the. best scene in terms of like everybody. getting to know those comedians.

worldwide but in terms of like the. quality of the comedy it was as good as. anywhere in the world I agree it's one. of those fluke things that just happens. probably like the music thing in the 60s. and uh in the village with the folk. musicians and all that or in London you. know like it just all of a sudden these. things come together and then this just. things happen mhm I'm so grateful to. have started there me too um you know I. started I started in 88 I started after.

the wave so I started uh you know there. was all the evening at the improvs then. and standup uh specials on like MTV at. the half hour comedy hour so I started. uh you know like George McDonald was the. the host of Open Mic nights Love George. yeah and you get to see Teddy berson. would stop in who was just to this day. one of the best Comics I've ever seen. tremendous so good so I started um when. the wave of like television comedy was.

just starting to sort of subside I kind. of caught the last. wave you know of that kind of of com. like the the comedy boom was starting to. settle down you know and it was uh there. was a lot of mediocre comedy out there. there was a lot of people that were. doing what sounded like like an. impression of what a comedian should. sound like you know they were working. all over the. place no were you living in. Massachusetts yeah iing and where did.

you get it in your why did it go into. your head like I told you it was from me. it was watching The Tonight Show how did. it the germ start we definitely watch. and stand up on TV I used to love. watching Richard Jenny on The Tonight. Show oh he wasn't me so good he's. incredible I was driving home one night. uh fairly recently a few years back and. you know how sometimes like a Bluetooth. on your phone just randomly plays a song. when you plug it in it just randomly. played this Jenny bit. and I was laughing so hard driving home.

and uh I while I was driving I. downloaded the whole album and I just. listened to the album coming home from. uh from Orange County and it was like I. just forgot I kind of forgot how good he. was I forgot how funny he was and all. the tags and bang bang bang bang bang he. just never stopped he did several. specials standup specials I saw him live. in California he's one of those guys. where you love laugh out loud you know.

sometimes you can watch a guy and you. can think that's really funny but you're. not really laughing out loud you're not. it's not a judgment but then there's. other guys where both lines up yeah you. know like like Jenny and Kevin meanie. just like oh my God but Jenny I mean so. prolific he was so prolific top guy he. worked at um uh East Side comedy club in. Long Island and I got there on Sunday. and the host Po and a couple other.

Comics are sitting there they look. depressed and I'm like what's going on. and like Jenny did four different hours. he did two different hours two different. shows Friday night he did one hour for. the first show totally different hour. for the second show then he does a. totally different hour for the first. show Saturday and another totally. different hour I never heard of such for. the second I never heard of such a thing. they said he never repeated a joke he. said he did four totally different hours. and just murdered and they all wanted to. kill themselves yeah I would too kill.

myself not them yeah it's crazy it's. crazy how good he was so I saw him and. uh I I saw Kennison I was actually. introduced to Kennison by a girl I. worked with it was very funny story she. was she had seen Kennison on HBO and. then she went and acted out this uh the. bit about uh the homosexual. necrophiliacs paying money to have sex. with the freshest male corpse so this. girl who's a friend of mine is lying on. her stomach in the parking lot acting it.

out going oh oh life keeps [ __ ] in. the ass even after you're dead it never. ends it never ends so she's acting this. out in the parking lot I'm laughing at. her acting it out like I didn't even see. the bit yeah this is your introduction. to S that's my introduction to Sam. Kennison is my friend pretending she's. getting [ __ ] in the ass like as she's. dead oh my God that's touching it was. touching I think about her all the time. I really do think about her all the time. cuz she was a girl I worked with with at. the Boston Athletic Club in South Boston.

I was a trainer there and she was like. this uh she was very funny she was like. this big volley volleyball player girl. she was like a big athlete strong girl. so seeing her lying on the ground go oh. oh life keeps [ __ ] the ass even after. you're dead it never ends was there. anyone like walking by like no luckily. no nobody she wouldn't give a [ __ ]. though that's that was she was she could. have been a comic she was very funny she. was very funny there's a lot of people.

like that did you meet they're like God. that guy could have been a comic you. know few of those people so that girl. introduced me to Kennison arguably I. mean believe it or not and then um I. just I saw Kennison for the first time. and I was like oh that's comedy too and. that was like one of the first times. that I thought I could do comedy I was. like may maybe I'm like I got this wrong. I thought it I thought comedy was like. Jerry Seinfeld Richard prior. it's all done and like you can't do that.

you don't know what you're doing I see a. little can in you yeah like a little oh. definitely kenison Hicks prior all of. them Lenny Bruce but um so I saw uh an. open mic night and once I saw an open. mic night that gave me the confidence CU. I was like oh okay everybody sucks in. the beginning cuz you know you you see. someone like on my open mic night the. first time I went um when I did my show. afterwards Teddy did a set so Teddy.

berson went up and just like showed. everybody how it's done and for people. who don't know Teddy berson he was so. smooth so relaxed and he had this. command of the audience and the stage. with this presence and his performance I. just been thinking I can never do that. how am I going to do that the guy's so. Advanced he's so good so that's how I. got started and and I got started by. friends friends talking me into doing it. oh you you they said why don't you try.

it yeah like they they put pushed you. like got you to go like yeah it was uh. my friend Steve who's I'm still one of. my best friends to this day uh we were. hanging out and he was just like I think. you should be a comedian it was like. when I was teaching martial arts. actually so I was like making them laugh. i' make my friends laugh when we go. fight in tournaments and I'd make. everybody laugh before we were about to. spar cuz it was like everybody was real. nervous you know so it was for me it was. a nice opportunity to get attention and.

to cut the tension you know that's how. it got started yeah that's how it got. started but I think uh a lot of you know. just because someone's funny hanging out. doesn't mean they could do that I mean. you obviously have done it but the big. difference is like if you're in a bar. with someone hang and the TV's on and. there's a lot happening going by the. waitress goes by someone drops something. someone says something about that.

something's on the TV something goes. truck goes by there's all these things. but when you go on the stage there's. nothing happening so just cuz you can do. that with your friends doesn't really. mean then you could go do that cuz when. you walk out there's nothing right it. doesn't mean that you can do it but if. you can't do that with your friends oh. yeah you prob if you don't have that no. yeah you're either funny or you're not. funny and if you can be funny with your. friends it's just a matter of like how.

can I figure out how to be funny in. front of everybody. else yeah That's Where It's Tricky and. to me the most interesting thing about. the art form is that no one can tell you. how to do it you do it very different. than I do it and we both do it very. different than Seinfeld does it and. Seinfeld does it different than Louis. Anderson did it it's like everybody's. got their own little weird way to do. standup and you kind of have to figure. that out on your own it's like a. fingerprint everyone's mind is like a. fingerprint you have your own.

fingerprint and then you got to figure. it out and also if you look at art forms. that are very popular like standup is. obviously a very popular art form people. love to go see it there's no real. courses on how to do it there's no real. structure of like everything else. whether it's music songwriting. literature fiction non-fiction there's. all teaching people teach people how to. do it people who've done it already they. teach you how to set up your your. stories and how to you know there's ways.

to learn almost every other art form but. even acting they teach acting you can't. really teach standup you got to practice. it in front of people you can kind of. take classes the classes the best thing. the classes do is they get you on stage. yeah I've always years after I was doing. it I thought back that you're the you. are your own teacher and the student at. the same time you're standing on the. stage you don't think of it like that. cuz you're just trying to do it but in.

hindsight and you can only learn from. doing it over and over and over and over. and your mind is soaking up like oh even. mistakes at work oh oh oh like you soak. like everything you need every second. that works and oh that doesn't oh oh. oh all right we tape them audio tape. them the beginning sets cuz it's. happened so fast it's like a car. accident the next thing you know the. thing is oh what what and you can like.

oh cuz some of it went better than you. thought some of it didn't go as good. your writing process must be like you. you have a very difficult style to write. for I would. imagine because your style is it's uh. it's non seiters and they're like a lot. of it's very absurd like is it is it. hard to like when you write do you sit. in front of a computer do you just come. up with ideas as you're walking around. like what's your process.

in the beginning I would sit down and. look at the paper like look for a word. to Jazz my mind or look for something. and I would try to find jokes on purpose. in the first six. months and then after that like I had. this thing once I was looking through. the paper and it was an advertisement. for. electrolysis and I thought what an. interesting word just the sound of the. word what it means both things it want. what the what the hell like so I made a.

note of that and then I don't know my. mind you know because your subconscious. is like a factory it's working when you. don't even know that it is you're. minding your own business you're in line. doing something that's this just in. yeah and and what my mind did with that. was I came up I had this thing about a. living in an apartment building where. they allowed pets and I had a pony I had. a pony named Nikki and he he was once.

involved in a bizarre electrolysis. accident all the hair was removed except. for the tail now I rent him out to Hari. Krishna family. picnics and that whole thing came cuz I. saw the word. electrolysis so I would try to find. things on purpose but then after a while. I didn't my mind was I would just notice. things cuz I think comedy all art is. based on noticing what's around you and.

I would my my mind like I drew a lot I I. know that you used to draw it too and. you know I would draw realistically in. high school and stuff like if you were. going to draw this cup and this this you. the two shapes and then you notice if. you're trying to draw it real you this. shape this shape and then there's the. shape that's in between that's also a. shape which helps you get it accurate. and but so you know you don't really.

notice that shape unless you were trying. to jar it so I think that that exercised. my mind of noticing then later on doing. the comedy I was already noticing but I. think was noticing just some people are. very aware of what's around and you know. like in the tower in the at the airport. where the radar goes like this like it. just goes like this like and and then. there's the little beeps of the planes. like those are the planes so I think my. mind got.

like scanning like that subconscious. like I I'm not going out I don't walk. down the street thinking I need another. joke I'm going to go walk down that. street I'm just going around my day just. doing it but the sub the thing is going. right and then it'll see It'll see a. word it's. like oh oh maybe that oh okay and then. oh and then like write it down and I. think of show the wording comes pretty.

fast like very like in a minute it's. like cuz in my mind it can only be one. way it can be written and then I just. would write it down and then and then go. on with what I was doing but the the. noticing never stops don't you think. what you do is you you're reacting right. you're talking about the world but you. have. to really see the world yeah you have to. really see the world and I I I do a real. similar thing where like if there's a.

certain subject that I'm working on like. like all throughout the day I'm thinking. about that subject like if there's a new. bit it's like it's just bouncing around. in my head like what is going on with. that why we accept that why is that so. weird like what what you know and then. it just it's just always playing in the. background like my mind is trying to. sort it out my mind's trying to figure. out what my angle is you know and then. sometimes I'll just take it on stage and. just roll it out and go let's see where. where this goes without it all figured.

out without it all figured out I'll just. do it in between bits that are real so. I'll do a bit that's good like it's a. solid bit and then I'll work in that. thing and I'll just let's see where this. goes under pressure after a bit that. kills you get stuck in this spot like. there's something in there like what. where is it you know I I have like. little destinations that I'd like to get. to i' like to talk about this part of it. I like to talk about that part of it but. let me just see I think cuz you're in. front of the audience everything's. heightened so there's a pressure there.

so your mind is kicked into another. intensity than if you were just you know. at a red light so and you're trying to. survive meaning get the laugh you try. you don't want a minute of nothing so. your brain like you're turning up the. knobs like we got to figure let's figure. this out with all those eyes on you like. there's something in there I know it's. in there let me [ __ ] find it you know. but people kind of know the process now. so the people enjoy seeing that like.

I've to talk to people like guests that. have come back and they said you know. that bit I saw that bit 6 months ago and. now it's like totally different it's. amazing like you figured out this and. that and yeah yeah it's like a process. so that that the fact that fans can come. and check out the process and they'll. see a bit and then they'll come back and. see it six months later it's like. [ __ ] totally different thing and so. it's this like living breathing thing. that you kind of take on stage to water.

where's this going gr yeah and then I. sit with it and I'll I'll stare at my. notes when I get home I'm just trying to. think like is am I missing something is. another angles is there another way I. could how would another person approach. this a person who didn't have this. structure already set up for this bit. maybe someone will look at it. differently maybe the ending should be. the beginning maybe the beginning should. be the ending you know it's like your. triggered thing is amazing oh thank you. like just like. just you can't see anything coming and.

the connect the connections it's like. and it's all completely logical oh yes. oh you know and it's so intense too you. like have this. intense presence of like a. force it's like going on a mental ride. mental roller. coaster you know yeah really amazing I. think. thank you it.

just so oh you had a thing oh when. you're talking to those female comedians. the other. day no it was s yeah but no it was in. your act I think it was about the. guy oh. [ __ ] the oil guy the guys with the money. in Texas and they started TR truck truck. world. bies bies is like the craziest gas. station. ever that's where is that a real place.

it's a real place you should go it's. amazing is it one it's not a chain is it. oh it's a chain and it's called bies. yeah bu u c c e s bies that's bies it's. the biggest gas station you've ever seen. it literally doesn't even make sense. that's not even the biggest one that's. yeah that's only like even half of it. that's even the building small one. that's a little bies because that's the. bies car wash and then there's like this. bies gigantic store is it only in Texas.

I don't know never even heard of it I. don't know it's definitely a big Texas. thing it's like a Walmart like a huge. Walmart attached to a gas station they. sell everything in there it's [ __ ]. nuts amazing look at that thing look at. the size of it look at the size of that. place look like an airport with no. planes like the planes would be at you. know the the gates are gone yeah they're. nuts and they're like that everywhere. you go everywhere you find a bues they. [ __ ].

gigantic chain of bies I thought Florida. oh there you go I thought for certain. you would say no it's not a chain it. doesn't sound like a chain it sounds. like some guys at night going let's call. it bies yeah we can't do that yeah some. guys who got high on cocaine and built. the ultimate gas station it's it's the. nuttiest place ever but it's a it's a. very Texas place cuz Texas is a strange. place how so well people here are very.

friendly they're very nice but they're. also very tough and they're they're very. Progressive in Austin but not crazy like. they are in California or they are in. New York like where they're like cult. members of this like rabid liberal. tribe the people coming from the country. and that they they people stopped on the. east coast and other people went the. whole way and the other people said we. just just stay here we're staying here. we're going to stay here and. B yeah well that was the other thing in.

my ACT about Texas that and it's a true. story it's a true fact there's more. tigers in captivity in Texas that's what. it was Tiger World tiger world a big oil. guy right he wanted more Tigers than the. other guy yes that's it yeah yeah cuz. there's more tigers in people's yards in. Texas than in the entire wild of the. world more tigers in private collections. in people's.

yards and it's true and that's can't be. that's true oh it's 100% true I've been. to some of these places I've been to. some of these crazy ranches that they. have like Texas Wildlife laws are very. different than anywhere else I've ever. been to and the people who own the. property own all the animals it's. different than like wildlife in any. other like say if you let's say if you. live in Montana and you own a ranch in.

Montana you can get landowner uh tags. for that ranch that means like so you if. say if you own like 6,000 acres in. Montana you and your friends and some. family members you could get license to. hunt on that property but you're only. allowed to hunt a certain amount of. animals there's a certain season it's. like very specific it starts at one time. it ends at one time and you know you go. to jail if you violate those things in. Texas is as long as the animal's not. from.

Texas you own it so like zebras lions. tigers there's [ __ ] stray kangaroos. like kangaroos get out my wife saw a. [ __ ] zebra she was driving and she's. like I saw a zebra there was a zebra on. the side of the. road had a zebra and it just got. out what if it's a zebra from Texas I. don't think it is think is probably born. in Texas not that sa I mean in general.

you're saying you can own the land and. then you own the animals as long as from. another country why though why doesn't. make any sense it's not even just it's. so crazy it's so crazy that it doesn't. even make sense because they're not even. exotic animals like for instance elk. like elk hunting in most of the country. is like a very it's difficult tag to. acquire it's a very prized uh hunt cuz. it's delicious meat and you know so very. specific with the regulations in Texas.

you can hunt elk 365 days a year and you. own the elk because the elk were brought. into Texas even though they used to be. in Texas so they were in Texas and then. the 1800s they wiped them out and then. when they reintroduced them they said. well you ain't from around here so we we. own you go that's a loophole it's a. loophole a giant elk. loophole you can do that with some. animals you can't do it with eagles you. know like if you start start hunting. American Eagles here in Texas then.

people would crack down like hey enough. enough Texas settle down we own these. [ __ ] Eagles there's no historical. record of eagles in these here. Parts it's a weird place so because of. that there really is more tigers in. people's yards than anywhere El mindling. to me like there something I wonder how. the Tigers feel about that they must be. like this is wrong this is wrong there's. some wild Tycoon out there that's got.

like a crazy setup where he lets a lets. a goat loose and the tiger gets to chase. the goat and eat it kill it you know. just for the hell of it well because. that's what tigers do CU otherwise. you're going to either it's that or you. kill the meat and then you bring it to. the tiger which is not as fun for him. like you'd really rather kill it himself. that's what they like but if you bring. the the animals here then you can own. them like you could bring like I mean. how small can you go can you go like. crickets can you bring crickets bring.

worms in I think I own these worms cuz. they're from Spain yeah you could but I. think that would be an invasive animal. like you wouldn't be able to control it. there's there is problems with like bugs. and things that come from other and even. plants that come from other parts of the. world that don't have natural predators. and they just run over everybody else. and take over an ecosystem do you have. any uh animals that you own that you've. broughten in from other countries cuz. I'm I'm really here from the I'm. representing the authorities no I only.

have a golden retriever is he from the. United States he appears to. me he appears to be I well I cannot. confirm nor deny but I did get him in. California when he was six weeks old so. pretty sure he's from. here but you know that's literally like. the opposite of a tiger golden retriever. they're just like big love. sponges yeah but it's it's very. interesting like the laws here when it.

comes to Wildlife also most of the land. here is private which is interesting too. like you know California has a lot of. public land and there's public land that. people go hiking on hunting on fishing. on and same thing with like New York. State andot a lot of States not Texas. Texas is very little public land like a. tiny swath of it where you can we can go. hunting on so what brought you why did. you decide to move to. Austin uh it was during the pandemic and. um everything in California was just.

really going sideways they were uh there. was a lot of riots there was a lot of. Smash and grabs and there was a lot of. um really incompetent government where. they were telling people that you have. to State we couldn't even do outside. shows you couldn't do outside shows the. comedy they wouldn't let The Comedy. Store do shows in the parking lot like. this doesn't make any sense there's. these incompetent bureaucrats who were. telling people what to do over Public. Health decisions they had massive. control control over your life all of a. sudden the mayor never had any [ __ ].

control over who worked and who didn't. work now all of a sudden he does and. he's a [ __ ] I was like I got to get out. of here why Texas well I came to Texas. uh with some friends cuz we were all. like disgruntled with California and. you've been to Texas many many many okay. so had a feeling for Texas I love it. here always love all right and uh really. what I wanted to do I wanted to move to. like Utah or Montana I wanted mooved to. somewhere where it was those beautiful. mountains and woods I just wanted to I'm.

like I travel so much I want to go. somewhere that's nice and peaceful like. I don't want to be in cities anymore I. was like this city [ __ ] is [ __ ] it's. just too much that's what I D yeah I. mean we were talking about it last night. I think you're on the right track it's. it overloads your senses I don't think. it's healthy for you so there was that. and then um it was also this is a great. town I mean it's amazing place there's. only a million people there and then a.

million in the outskirts so it's like. really mild traffic very friendly people. like great restaurants a great artist. Community there's a lot of great. musicians here yeah absolutely even. noticed in the airport I've never seen. this there singers in the airport like. at different Gates yep yep that was wild. and legit barbecue they got a Salt Lick. at the airport they do yeah it's very. good we excited when Salt Lick was open.

yeah the food here is incredible but so. that was uh it was but but the big thing. was freedom freedom was number one. because when we came here everybody was. like restaurants were open people were. just walking around doing things we you. know we went out on to uh Lake Austin. this friend of mine who's uh she became. a friend of mine she was our real estate. agent and she she took us on a tour on a. boat and my my young daughters were like. oh my God we want to live here they're. like we want to live on the leg let's go. and my wife was very hesitant at first.

but she took to it like a duck to water. when she moved here why was she hesitant. two different change all of our friends. are in La you know it's hard it's hard. just packing up your [ __ ] absolutely was. there a second runner up to move to or. was this just um yeah there was uh I. like uh Park City Utah Park City Utah is. real nice real quiet but it's also like. it's a resort Town mostly so like how. many people even live there in the. summer time was like maybe that'd be too. weird you know but I really do love it.

up there it's so beautiful and and I. again like I really loved Montana and I. really love Colorado I just I just was. like La is too much and the thing about. the government that was the big one for. me it's like you guys are morons you. can't tell me what to do and what not to. do especially when it comes to health. choices and you're fat and disgusting. and you you look like you don't take. care of yourself at all and you you guys. are giving out mandates on health the. [ __ ] out of here I was like this is just.

I gotta get out of here and I that's. when I realized like how how valuable. freedom is and to not be suppressed by. these people that are supposedly acting. in the guise of your best interest like. you're not like parking. tickets seriously parking tickets. infuriate. me for years yeah it's how dare what do. you mean you own you decided you own. this part this piece of the Earth and. you're going to charge.

me everything you just said I have. boiled down to parking tickets that. drives me crazy and you know what drives. me crazy tolls oh yeah I go to New York. every time I go over those stupid. [ __ ] Bridges I get angry I'm like. you're making me pay again to drive over. the bridge you paid for this bridge a. thousand times over you [ __ ] cuz like. the whole idea in the beginning was we. got to fund this bridge so we need to. charge people money to go across the. bridge but after a while the funding's. done you paid for it you [ __ ] but now.

you're just addicted to charging people. so you have this massive bottleneck. where all these cars just stop dead. because everybody's got to go to these. stupid [ __ ] booths and you're just. raking in money and just staying. incompetent staying with your terrible. money management so everybody's angry at. you and they still just keep paying it. every day cuz there's no way around it. you got to go on the bridge you got to. pay wear that [ __ ] put that stupid. thing over your rearview mirror so it. clocks you every time and dings your.

credit card. [ __ ] it's theft they're a bunch of. creeps the whole idea behind it is. already been passed like you were. supposed to pay for the bridge you paid. for the bridge now you're just. stealing parking spots [ __ ]. you I overreact to parking spots I don't. think you over to the ticket. ticket do you know Brian Holzman did you. see Brian Holzman last night very very. funny guy and he just got here he was a.

really funny guy from LA but uh Brian. used to be uh a meter mid that's what he. used to do he was like he just he was a. comic and he did a parking enforcement. really yeah we were just talking about. it last night that I ran into him one. night I was at the comedy oh he's got. great stories he's funny you should see. him he's very funny you would enjoy him. he's so. crazy he does the late night spots. like he likes to close off the show so. you know he was on stage last night till.

1:45 in the morning wow yeah he must. have gone on after I was gone yeah he. went on late he went on real late he. likes to go on at the very end of the. show he was on till. 1:45 Kellen Kellen he's so funny but. it's like that Kennison spot you know. like at the store they used to have late. night Kennison spots and that's kind of. what Holzman does now used to be back in. La was Brody Stevens too before he died. he did the same kind of thing he would. do those late spots and it would be so.

much fun did he ever tell you some. conflicts he had when enforcing the uh. parking thing no I never talked to him. about it I mean I'm sure he had a few. absolutely I'm sure po those poor people. cuz they're getting the whole thing. taken out on they're just trying to do. their job yeah yeah they get attacked. pocket meter people they get. attacked yeah it's just it's another. creepy way that the city makes money off. you it really is you're you're dead. right it's like why are you charging.

money for this little spot and if it if. the it's like the meter is a dollar or. whatever it is but if I don't pay it. it's like 50 bucks like what is that. that doesn't make any sense you should. charge me a dollar you piece of [ __ ]. it's like a dollar is it a dollar to the. like what's with the penalties what's. with all these like crazy 50 times over. penalties like you just get to say that. you get to take my money because if I'm. going to pay for the parking thing and. you know you're going to make me pay. because you give me a ticket how about.

give me a ticket for what I should. actually be paying that's what it should. be well they're charging you on time and. space [ __ ] off they're stealing money. they're stealing money because it's. never going to be worth $50 like how's. it worth $50 to just park in a spot but. you can hit me with a $50 ticket if I. don't pay like that's crazy like oh it's. a penalty oh all right imagine that in. the wild west imagine like 1860 that's. how people got with a your hores is in. the wrong spot I wonder when they. started doing that that's interesting it.

had to have started it had to have. started the first guy imagine that. meeting let's find out when was the. first parking meter I was thinking about. did you see when jaywalking started it. was like you could do it for a long time. until there was too many cars and the. cars were like hey hey hey get these. people out of our way that makes sense. cuz if you look at those old videos of. New York City at the turn of the century. when people were first having cars and. they were cars mixed in with horses. everyone's just kind of always walking. across the street everywhere I got a.

ticket once in walk jay walking in Los. Angeles in the in the 80s and it caused. me the penalty was I couldn't it was. with my car even though I was walking. the penalty went to my car somehow like. even though that the crime I so was. walking across the street and then the. ticket went onto my registration which. had nothing to do with uh what I had. done oh Oklahoma City first parking. meters in the United States went to.

Oklahoma City in 1935 the city grew. rapidly in the early 20th century in. 1913 the city had only 3,000 drivers but. as people traded in their horses and. wagons and bought cars the numbers grew. by 1930 5,000 cars were registered. within the county 500,000 oh 500,000 oh. Jesus oh my God that's. insane how did I miss that 100. Oklahomans who worked downtown arrived. early and took the most convenient. street parking for themselves leaving. their cars in one spot all day as a.

result Shoppers had difficulty finding. places to park like other towns. addressing the problem Oklahoma City. tried to control this by marking tires. with chalk oh that's. gross cars that were left in the same. space for too long were ticketed but. that was time intensive and took. policemen off the regular beats a better. solution was needed so they came up with. the parking meter. interesting huh I guess he got to kind. of do something because people are gross. and they will just park their car and. leave it there for Oklahoma City how who. would have you could have never known.

that yeah thank you. sir. yeah it's uh have you ever [ __ ] around. with autonomous cars I don't even know. you ever drive a Tesla I wouldn't have. the drives itself you mean yeah I. wouldn't do that no no you mean sit. there and let it I mean I might do it as. a test but I don't like the idea of it. yeah I love to drive I love. I love I love I love it it's one of my.

favorite things what do you drive I. drive a Toyota Highlander oh nice and I. drive a 1986 Jeep CJ7 nice I love going. from point A to point B there's. something about moving that's good for. you at least for my mind too it's it's. like there's something. unwinding just by moving. forward I used to come up with a lot of. my best idea of driving with no radio on.

yeah yeah yeah you got to shut it off. sometimes because you always got radio. or phone or something and and you. sometimes you have to have nothing. because nothing isn't really nothing you. got to. like it took me years to realize that. doing nothing was really good it was. really doing something because your mind. thinks differently when you not going. when something's not going in you can.

really think more for sure for a long. time I thought well I'm not doing. anything and I and I like it and I think. of things sometimes but proud of me. thought because of society it's like. well what do you mean you're doing. nothing it has a negative you know what. I mean it has a negative thing and then. it took me years to think that no this. is really something and then I started. looking up nothing that sound like a. George Carlin I started looking it up. and it showed the benefit of silence and.

just yeah yeah so you would drive with. no radio and you just your mind yeah. especially early in my my uh beginning. days of standup I drove a lot because I. delivered newspapers so I drive in the. mornings and deliver my newspapers um. and I do it with no radio on a lot of. the time and some of the best ideas that. I had came from just doing this manual. labor chucking these newspapers out the. window and just driving around then your. your mind is free to think about other.

stuff instead of like constantly having. entertainment bombarding it like you. know I'd listen like Charles Ladera the. morning radio but but if I just shut it. off and listen to nothing then I got. some of my best ideas plus you're doing. this mundane thing with the paper which. is almost like the so the gears in your. head it's it's doing something but that. allows another part of your brain to. like go on its own you know cuz. because you're distracting. enough I don't know it's fascinating how.

it works it's focused but you're not you. focused on this boring thing then your. mind is playing cuz creativity to me is. playing it's like a child with finger. paints you know just just like it's. always very been a very playful thing to. me I've never like thought oh my God I. need more I need five more minutes it. it's just like cuz uh creating is. thinking you can't stop thinking if.

someone said to you you can't think of. any more comedy right or you'll be. arrested you could you they wouldn't. know if you didn't say it but you can't. stop right it's like a machine going. down a hill well you it's how you look. at things you're always going to look at. something stupid and go what is that how. is that real yeah why is that like that. how how how are we accepting that yeah. cuz the world is like so chaos it's. chaos and then people have come up. civilization one hand it's good they.

have certain rules to guide it but. there's stuff spilling over the edges. it's like tornadoes and and the. comedians are pointing out well I know. you're trying to get it so the world. doesn't just blow up but that rule is. insane and then you can comment about. the stuff that's spilling spilling over. look what's spilling over why didn't you. do anything with yeah it's like cuzz. we're just trying to go from point A to. point B in the day and our entire lives.

and just get to the end and it's like a. a puzzle it's completely out of control. yeah you're just trying to survive it's. interesting we talking about your. process too that um you had this process. in Boston and in B Boston out of all the. places that I've ever lived is the most. they they appreciate hard work and work. ethic more than any place I've ever. lived and there's something about like. they discourage lazy people they do not.

like lazy people like it is a it is a. thing growing up there people work hard. you got to shovel your [ __ ] driveway. to go to work you got the shoveling the. driveway thing is Big CU there's so much. goddamn snow like you have to get up in. the morning you got to do the work you. got to go to work so if you're some guy. just sitting on the couch I'm just. waiting for. ideas they be like [ __ ] You. Stephen go to work no that wasn't. growing up no no no I don't think. growing up he's has a successful comic.

like he doesn't even he just wanders. around his yard talking. himself you know get a job get a job. what are you doing Stephen get a [ __ ]. job you lazy. slob what are you doing talking to. yourself you're convincing yourself. you're working hard the [ __ ] out of here. but but it that's another thing but. there is that there is that physical. physical physical it took me years to to.

realize that thinking is doing something. too cuz that what you just described is. so burned into you it's like well wait a. minute I doing this it's not I mean it'd. be one thing if you were not shoveling. the driveway and not thinking of. anything and just like I mean took. because because of that ethic that you. described thinking is not. like it's so it's thinking is almost.

abstract even though it isn't you can't. see someone thinking but you can see the. guy shoveling the driveway so that guy. looks like he's doing something that guy. doesn't look like he's doing anything. but that but that guy just wrote two. pages of something just wandering around. his yard staring at the trees yeah. talking to himself I think it's only. people who do creative stuff kind of uh. appreciate that you really do have to. have that time just thinking because. ideas they just they're out there and if.

you don't go looking for them they don't. come into your head so if you spend time. just too involved in stuff where you've. got to be very aware and paying. attention and doing this and doing that. like you don't have any boredom if you. don't have any like just Flats yes. boredom has a negative thing where T to. to it too cuz boredom that's where the. the stuff comes like sometimes if I have. to everyone everyone in their every day. like I have to go here I got to buy this. I got to do this I got to call this guy. I got to do this email I got to go then. I have to go there cuz the car needs.

this gu and all of that and then it's. like you didn't you it's like I can't. wait to just to just sit there yeah. without doing these tasks because if. you're doing all these tasks you can't. think of anything other than the tasks. you're caught in a loop and people you. know I I just like to think but you have. to do that stuff if you didn't do any of. it we just pile up and you got the house. is on fire and I'll put it out next week.

I got to write a joke I'm thinking about. walnuts right now a lot of guys uh like. writers authors in particular they like. to write and then they go for walks yeah. yeah yeah and so like they have all the. the writing of the day done like say if. they commit to a certain amount of pages. or a certain amount of letters that they. write so they write all those words and. then they go for a walk and then you. think about what you wrote and then. ideas will come to you as you're walking. around just thinking about what you. wrote like a lot of guys either they.

talk into their phone or they have like. a little tap recorder and they just talk. into it every now and again while. they're walking or even Einstein when he. couldn't figure something out he'd play. as violin or he'd go for a walk imagine. seeing Einstein walk what the hell get. back in the office and then you know and. he figures out this giant thing cuz he. went for a walk he he knew he he knew. yeah it's just we have to separate the. difference between lazy and a different.

effective strategy for engaging your. mind because we think of walking and. just hanging out as being lazy but for a. creative person like one of the things. that I think is really important for. comics and I I guess probably for. anybody creative is to do things like. you can't just do shows no you have to. have real experiences yes you have to go. out and live life go out go visit. museums go go travel places go hang out.

with friends in other states go do stuff. you got to do stuff cuz if you don't do. stuff like your your field of references. becomes very small yes you just be doing. stuff about clubs and your house all. your material your air travel I have. several Museum jokes by. accident by accident well I mean I went. to the museum I didn't go to get some. jokes I see the woman the name for the. ladies room oh that must be an exhibit.

you know you see the or where they have. the heads and arms from the statues that. in all the other museums a museum who. had all the heads and arms that's cuz I. went to a. museum you know or like I exercise I I'm. a bike rider like an hour a day in the. spring and summer and and uh on a. stationary bike in the winter every day. 30 minutes I'm addicted to that and that. that like weird that's like a weird drug. that makes you more relaxed and. energetic at the same time with no and.

and that affects your thinking too. somehow it's like it's all I mean I do. it to feel good but I like how it. affects my mind also then you add coffee. and then you're out of your. mind I love cardio before shows oh you. do yeah I do too if I could do like an. hour of cardio before a show that night. I'm always so loose and relaxed yeah you. so you're like oh yeah you're like hey.

everything's fine big smile on my face. yeah I was at to dinner with my wife. once and I just giant smile on my face. and she's like what are you the [ __ ] are. you doing what's so funny I did cardio. today feel great it's like it's just a. like it rings out all the tension in. your body just leaves you free I have to. do I love doing it some people look at. it like as a task I look forward to. doing it that's good if you can look. forward to it it's way better because. when you think of it as a task then you.

put off doing it and you like oh you. procrastinate or you you dread it. instead of just saying this is what I. love to do I'm going to go do this thing. I love to do just hard for some people. to think of exertion as being something. they enjoy for most people exertion is. work and I'm tired of working I want to. just relax you know cuz it's mostly. they're doing work they don't like to do. too so they have ation when they're head. but people who don't like exercising is.

are people who don't exercise CU they. see it as a like move those rocks but. people who do it know how positive it is. yeah that's everything were you doing it. when you first started no I started. doing it about in the early 90s I lived. in Santa Monica and I had a bike just. for no reason I had a bike you know the. the bike path along the ocean there so. one day I went down lived three blocks.

from there I went down and rode my bike. on the bike path just for just to ride. like a kid rides and then I would do it. a couple times a week and then one time. I went down and I must have gone longer. than before and I got that that Rush. thing that endorphin thing because I. must have spent more time on the bike. and I I thought oh my God this is what. I've been hearing about my whole life I. didn't go to get it I didn't do it I was. like a kid riding a bike around the. neighborhood but when I got that I.

thought I want to get that again so then. I went on purpose to get it again and. then it's now it's been like since 32. years it's like a like a drug like a. strike because and it was all just from. uh that couple first right bike rides. yeah if you could get Runners high and. put it in a. tablet you me be able to buy it yeah. it's amazing you feel so good you feel. so relaxed just like like the world's.

fine world's going to be great the sun's. out. yay then I would in the hotel and I. would do 30 minutes before I would go on. stage I for years I did that because of. the reason you said you walk out and CU. for me the stage is very intense for me. I mean I might look like I'm walking. around and saying this stuff but it's. it's like a tight rope. and then when you do the. exercise it's just different then I.

switch to walks now I go for w I'll be. walking around out in the back of the. theater going all around people might. see me they're going into the show they. he must be so nervous I'm not nervous. though I'm trying to like oh I'm trying. to get that floaty thing and then then. you walk out and it's like it's not as. intense do you think it's intense how do. you feel about being out there intense. yeah yeah it's intense it's dangerous. don't you think it certainly is people.

paid money they don't want you to suck. they don't to me it's like you are. running across a lake of thin ice and it. takes you 85 minutes to get to the other. side you try not to you hear it cracking. behind. you way describe it trying to get get. the other oh jeez and if you care about. what you do it's it's intense you know. especially that live performance in. front of many many people that come to. see you it's there's a lot going on. there it's a very complicated issue and.

it's a lot of fun it's a lot of [ __ ]. fun I I've done a lot of different. things there's nothing like I love doing. standup it's one of the most fun things. I've ever done I I agree I love doing it. in clubs you know I do a lot of big. shows too but um what I'm the fun I'm. having at the club it's like the most. fun we were all talking about it last. night we're all sitting around after the. show like there cuz we've all done like. a lot of the guys that come with me on. the road we've done Arenas we've done.

big theaters but there's nothing like. clubs it's the most fun thing ever it's. like everyone's just sharing a moment. we're all just having a good time. together I got all these things to talk. about I prepared I've been doing a lot. of set so it's going to be smooth have a. cocktail let's have a laugh and it's fun. it's the most fun thing to do at all the. [ __ ] I do that's the one thing though I. don't think I'd ever stop doing that. just too much fun well the audience is a. weird thing weird and positive it's like. they're your friends but you don't. really know their.

names you're hanging out with them. you're hanging out with them yeah you. don't know their names but they know you. and they know you inside and out you. know especially because of podcasts they. really know you like they know you know. you they've listen to you talk for hours. and hours and hours they know who you. are you can't fake it you know and so. they're excited about that too which a. it's a weird like extra connection that. people have to Comics now because of. podcasts yeah what they're really.

thinking on not on stage because before. it was just what the show would be yeah. they also like the fact sometimes like. we'll bring up stuff in a podcast and. then I'll write it down and then that'll. become a bit like I'll have something. pop into my head and ah remember when. you first talked about that and now it's. like your closing bit cuz you figured. out how to turn it into this five minute. chunk you know how long have you been. doing the. podcast um 14 years is it almost 14.

years3 and a half 13 and a half years. yeah yeah amazing crazy that must be one. of the first ones that you have here uh. the first one was Adam Curry he was. number one he's the poda and then and. then um Corolla had one when he left. radio and Mark Maron had one and there. was a couple other that I had heard. about but it was Kevin Smith Kevin Smith. had one real early on um but it was uh.

fairly yeah fairly small amount of. people and what what what Drew you to it. just having fun um what drew me to it. was like I used to like to do uh radio I. used to like to do like Opie and Anthony. because it was a bunch of comics hanging. out and you know was like Jim Norton and. Rich Voss we would just hang out and. talk [ __ ] and just laugh and it was so. much fun I would look for to doing it. every time I went to New York I couldn't. wait to do the morning radio cuz I get. to hang with these Comedians and just.

laugh Jim Norton's hilarious the best I. love him but it's like it was a. camaraderie thing it was a fun thing we. just would always leave there like AR. shafir and I would do it all together. all the time and we would leave and we. just be laughing like it was just so. much fun and then the idea uh came i'. I'd seen uh Anthony cumio from OPI and. Anthony he had his own show that he was. doing in his basement online. and Tom Green had his own show online so. I was watching a few other people do. things and I was like why don't I just.

try something just like do just have a. webcam show just do it just for for the. [ __ ] fun of it like just let's see. what happens we started doing that you. doing it with your friend yeah my friend. Brian um and uh then I would bring in. comedians like Tom sagur and Joey Diaz. and Duncan Trussell and Ari shafir and. then it just became all of a sudden I. have guests and all of a sudden I have. scientists and all a sudden I have. authors and psychologists and Physicians. and it was weird it just like slowly.

became this thing that it is now it. started in Los Angeles yeah started in. my I just had a spare bedroom that I. just like set up like how did you I mean. you had The Comedians and stuff but then. how did it go to like scientists how. what how did that happen it I started. the podcast became fairly popular in. podcast I mean by fairly popular I mean. you know thousands of downloads nothing. like it is now but it was enough so that.

I could convince people hey here's this. episode would you like to do my podcast. like check it out this is what we do and. they would do like oh you guys are silly. like what are you doing you're sitting. around smoking pot and talking [ __ ]. about things like yeah do you want to. come yes and a lot of people said yes. like Anthony Bourdain he was an early. one he said yes oh yeah Graham Hancock. and gram Graham Hancock was like the. first real one because Graham Hancock is. uh a journalist and he specializes in. ancient civilizations and the demise of.

ancient civilizations and that there's. evidence that shows that there is likely. some sort of a natural catastrophe that. took place around 11,800 to 12,000 years. ago that wiped out civilization and all. the civilization that we think about. like Babylonian Mesopotamia those were. probably. reboots of an old civilization that was. destroyed by asteroid impacts there's. like all this physical evidence it's. called the younger drias impact Theory. there's there's core samples they do.

where they find aridium at around 11, 800 years which is like very common in. space very rare on Earth but there's a. large layer of it and micro diamonds. which indicate impacts from uh impacts. from the asteroids so we we probably. went through an asteroid shower and it. probably destroyed civilization. somewhere around 11,800 years ago ended. the Ice Age so Graham hack Hancock he. has ancient catastrophe which is on uh. Netflix um this whole series on that.

where you can like follow the evidence. the physical evidence and the. archaeological evidence of these ancient. civilizations and these ancient. construction methods that to this day we. still don't understand like how they. move these enormous Stones how they plac. them how they even cut them we don't we. don't know what tools they were using we. don't know anything how did you get him. to come on I was a giant fan of his and. I would always like sing his Praises. when I would do radio shows and stuff I. tell people about this book he wrote. called Fingerprints of the Gods an. amazing book it just shows all this.

evidence of these ancient cultures that. just don't exist anymore including like. sunken cities off the coast of Japan. that like there wasn't there wasn't. water there or there there was ground. there at one point in time thousands and. thousands of years ago and they think. that that there was actually a city. there and now it's covered by the ocean. there's a bunch of those that they find. out there in the water there's a lot of. indications that um there was like. really Advanced civilization like 12,000. 20,000 years ago so that guy was like.

one of the first guests and you have. Neil and de grass yeah I've had him on. multip is he a nice guy he's a very nice. guy yeah he's a very nice guy he's a. sweetheart cuz that stuff fascinates me. I can only take so much I mean I like to. watch the shows and then my mind like. you know my Burlington Massachusetts. mind okay okay and then all no no no. more no no but I'll watch I'll hear the. words I'll listen but okay but I love it.

I love that stuff well I we had miio. Kaku on the other day he's brilliant and. he was talking about Quantum Computing. he's really uh interested he wrote a. book on Quantum Computing and what a. game changer that's going to be when. something can compute not at a level of. like 10 times more than we could do now. but like millions and millions of times. more and that it happens simultaneous ly. in different universes and that they're. calculating not just in this universe.

but they're calculating simultaneously. in multiple universes and he's telling. me this I'm like what did you just say. the [ __ ] does that even mean I have to. get. going I'm like what are you saying meio. that guy is so goddamn smart talking to. him you just realize what an ape you. are he was building a particle collider. in his garage when he was in high school. with Miles and would he say like 20.

miles of copper pipe he said 60. something crazy like that is he from the. United States yeah yeah yeah what town. was he building where was he do you. remember I don't know why I want to I. don't was it New York I don't know yeah. genius genius but that's like he was. like that as a kid like when I was 17 I. was picking my nose I was an idiot you. 22 miles to Copper wi say why when I pop. this up okay I think San Jose California. oh that's right right that's right cuz. he said the the heart of Silicon Valley.

which is now Silicon Valley so to just. to be able to talk to a guy like that. yeah what a pleasure A gift just to be. in the same room with that guy I've had. the most unexpected education talking to. these people yeah amazing yeah it's been. it's very very I feel super super. fortunate for that aspect of it because. I've learned so much talking to so many. different people and you get all these. different perspectives these heterodox. perspectives and alternative. perspectives and people that are like.

very rigid in their ideologies and then. people that are like very open-minded. and they're just like trying to find the. truth and they're all like mixed in. together in this world and if you can. bring them together and have. conversations with them it expands your. understanding of how the mind works so. much like I was only exposed to a. certain kind of people before you know. was exposed to us like comics and my. martial arts friends and then you know. other people that I knew from various. walks of life like whoever I ran into.

but I never got a chance to like how. would you would you get a chance to sit. down with a John carac and it's cuz you. took that well me web webcam uh podcast. let me try this try this then you cut to. knel the grass he's standing here and. with the guy with the what was the other. guy yeah you know you're saying let me. try this and then dang it's like you. have just people the top people you're. sitting across from them. that doesn't happen in real life it. doesn't happen in real life and then.

Elon Musk was a big one that was a huge. one. cuz yeah I got I got him to smoke weed. in here yeah cuz we were drinking we. were was like we were having a couple. whiskies and we're I wanted to loosen. him up cuz he's very intense I mean his. brain is like you can tell when you're. talking to him his brain is working on. like five different things while he's. talking it's like a different kind of. thinking so we were drinking a little. bit loosen it up and then I sparked up a. joint and it became a giant issue. because he took a hit oh I remember that.

and the stock price of Tesla dropped. like 6% it did yes it went back up I. think it went past where it was the next. day but you know people panic on those. things and he almost lost went back up. when he wasn't High anymore exact like. okay make decisions and then you know. was uh there was also an issue with uh. top secret clearance because even though. it's legal in mass in California weed. was where we were um it's not legal. federally so here's involved in this.

thing that's illegal and he's also. involved in NASA he's also involved in. top secret rocket programs you know. because he's got SpaceX and they're like. hey [ __ ] what are you doing over. there was did he smoke uh in his in his. private life anyway um you know what did. you say hey oh I just sparked it up I. know but you don't know what his history. was I didn't ask yeah I didn't ask but. we were we do it all the time so we're.

yeah if we're having a couple of drinks. and I spark up a blunt I look at Jamie. and I hand it over to him and I hand it. to Elon and he's like okay so he takes. his head of it it was was. funny but it's like how how often do you. get a chance to sit across from someone. like that for 3 hours and just talk to. him for three hours he scares the [ __ ]. out of me he scares the sh out of me. when he talks about AI he he's the one. guy like out of all the people that have.

this like Rosy view of AI including meio. Kaku who's brilliant they have this Rosy. view of EI e AI artificial intelligence. and and neon does not he does not he's. like this has the biggest chance of. being the demise of civilization the. demise of humans the biggest chance yeah. because if it if you can't tell it apart. then you. won't you won't know there's two things. there's one one uh a bad State getting. control of AI before before a good State.

we we try to think of ourselves as good. guys let's just for the sake of this. argument say we're the good guys so if. we're the good guys we would like to get. that AI before China does we'd like to. get the AI before Russia does before. Iran does we don't want people that. oppose us having the ultimate control. over information and Computing because. it'll probably be such a big game Cher. that there'll be no more no no more. encryption it it'll burn through. everything it'll be able to read. passwords be able to duplicate things. it'll be able to you know you can do.

things with artificial intelligent you. can't even imagine could be possible and. it's going to happen in our lifetime. it's going to happen in 10 years and 20. years it's going to be an unrecognizable. world I I don't like it I like this. though it's pretty cool right yeah is. there a story behind it oh it's just. there's an artist his name is Jack of. the Dust he makes a bunch of cool stuff. they're they're H ceramic or what is it. uh resin they're they're resin. sculptures I just I always love these.

Day of the Dead skulls they're pretty. [ __ ] cool I just he uh made me a few. and I said I think they would all look. cool here so I just put them all on the. table is there a reason there's six nope. just a bunch of colors he has I just. thought they're cool it is cool I like. to have a bunch of [ __ ] laying around. yes I see it makes it. comfortable you. know I love see photographs so out there. of the if the uh the Indians out there. oh that's Greg Overton yeah Greg Overton.

is this amazing artist and he's uh done. a bunch of these incredible Native. American uh art pieces in this area in. particular was rich with Native American. history because it was a very very. fertile area because of all the lakes. and all the rivers and all the wildlife. so there's arrow heads everywhere out. here all over the place I have a friend. who has a ranch and he's pulled. thousands of arrowheads from his Ranch. they do these excavations where they.

they um know like the areas where they. hunted a lot you know where there's a. lot of like wildlife and they they dig. into the ground and they sift through it. and he finds these incredible points. he's found Clovis points he's found like. kamanche arroe heads it's amazing. amazing stuff tremendous do you know. that photographer has he passed away or. what the artist guy who took the. pictures oh the photographs the. photographs are of quana Parker quana.

Parker is the last commanche Chief so. the commes were the people that were in. control of the planes in control of. Texas and they were the most fierce. tribe and they were the most difficult. to get past and they they were the. reason why people couldn't settle this. area it wasn't until the Texas Rangers. figured out how how to combat them on. their own terms they cold camped they. never used fires they dressed like like. normal civilians and they kind of lived.

like Indians and they ran around and. that's quana Parker so quana Parker his. mother Cynthia Anne Parker was kidnapped. by the Comanche when she was really. young she was 9 years old her family was. murdered in front of her and they took. her in and she eventually became um the. wife of the chief and they had a baby so. she was white and she had a half Native. American baby who was quana Parker who. was the last kamanche Chief and he was a.

big for a kamanche and just like very. very Fierce guy that photograph of her. uh sucking uh having her her kid um. sucking on her nipple is a very famous. photo because she would do that in front. of people and they thought that was like. so uncivilized they want disturb them no. just that's how they did it oh we you. know in the Native American cultures in. the Kaman culture they would just. breastfeed so she would do that and they. took a photo of her doing that cuz they. thought it was like this is like the.

evidence that she's not one oh I see. yeah she's very primitive she's like one. of them she was she was kidnapped when. she was 9 years. old I'm a fan of redcloud Lov like yeah. I read this book in the in the heart of. everything yes I read that. amazing it's a great book how he. gathered all the Indians together to. make it one big army army fight the. white guys just like yeah cuz that's.

what that's what it was supposed to be. like not the wars but when they had it. when they had this that's you know no. parking meters no Park no no malls that. was the real version well that's the. Nostalgia that everybody Lov so much. about Native American culture the fact. that they lived off the land in the land. and they did it at the same time where. Europe had already experienced the. Enlightenment and the Renaissance and. there was all this stuff in cities and.

all this culture all over the world it. was like sophisticated in art and. literature and they didn't even really. have art the commandes they just their. art was their arrows their art was their. their clothing their art was you know. what what they did to live off the land. you know they just followed the Buffalo. and lived off of them that's all they. ate they ate mostly just Buffalo. and then all that's happening in Europe. and and then this is still here like.

Stone 10,000. years making trains if you could go back. in time and see what that must have been. like my God how incredible to be like. one of the ls and Clark people to take. that track across the country and just. experience what it was like before the. white man came and [ __ ] put his. greasy little Palms over everything and. built cities it would have been too much. for me I would have cried to death. where is he he fell out of the.

canoe hard life not good for Comics you. know the lotas had a comic they they had. a a permanent like. fiction really I never knew that yeah. it's called the Hoka the hyoka was the. sacred clown wow the sacred clown the. the job that they had in society was to. mock things because anything that could. be mocked must be [ __ ] like you. would peel away the layers of ego and. Distortion because if you can make fun.

of things so the the heyoka was allowed. to make fun of everybody make fun of the. chief make fun of the the the the women. make fun of the Warriors he made fun of. everybody I never heard of this yeah it. was a very important part of their. culture did the other tribes have that I. don't know what are they calling it Hoka. hyoka yeah it was like he was like a. kind of a medicine man it was like there. was a spiritual aspect to it that'd be a. good name for a child H Hoka a little. bit of cultural appropriation you get in.

trouble for that. oh oh the Indians oh my God the Indians. I say the Indians in my I say the word. Indian in my show they say it it's weird. it's one of those weird ones where like. some people think Eskimo is a bad term. but some Eskimos prefer that term. depending upon where they are in the. country and where they are in the world. it's like uh a lot of Native Americans. they actually want you to use the term. indian American Indian well then I say I.

wonder if in Cleveland now little boys. are playing Cowboys and. Guardians what are they playing now. right you can't play Cowboys in Indi. anymore Guardians you know the name of. the Cleveland team mm yeah they changed. it but the Washington Redskins are still. the Redskins right no it's done the. commanders the commanders all right is. anybody a chief anymore is Chiefs are. Chiefs are still there yeah and then the. seals in Florida State like they have a. deal with the tribe to stay seals well.

the seminal nation is the only nation. that was never. conquered they just [ __ ] kept running. [ __ ] in Florida you know that's why they. have all the casinos down there and the. Hard Rock and the seminal nation's huge. in Florida I did a book report on those. Indians when I was in 8th grade oh yeah. cuz we went to Florida on vacation and I. saw the name all around I don't remember. anything about it though of course well. there's a great book uh about cabesa. Daka called a land so strange have you.

you ever read that book it's a great. book it's about cabesa Daka when they. they first came to America and how they. made their way from Florida across the. country and they're like everybody died. there like a couple guys left at the end. of The Journey but the stuff that they. encountered and the the you know the way. they had to try to get by and starving. to death and you know facing hostile. enemies and just crazy crazy being there. then doing that then we're so lucky oh.

my God so lucky you just go to Starbucks. get a cup of. coffee go get a sandwich yes you know. it's like so easy to get by. now these people like almost starved all. the time even the rain would be. different I mean experiencing the rain. would be a big decision thing also you. didn't was coming you didn't know when. it was going to end you had no idea a. hurricane was on the way you had no. idea it was just like the the weather.

the guy the weather guys though even now. like I mean my brother is really into. the weather and I mean I love snow I. can't wait for it to snow I love snow in. Massachusetts but he told me about this. guy Weatherman in Brazil years ago and. he predicted these big giant rains and. stuff bad weather was supposed to come. and then all these tourists didn't come. and then the weather didn't come and. they put him in jail they put the. weatherman in.

jail that's crazy I think that should. happen there's just a row of cells of. weathermen from all over the United. States there's actually an even dumber. one that's recent and the Dumber one was. there was some uh geologists in Italy I. believe and they failed to predict an. earthquake so they were. tried and I want to say they were. convicted and then they had a win on a. peel see if you can find that story but. it was insane for all the scientists.

that actually understand seismology and. how those those you can't predict. earthquakes you just you can't and so. these morons had decide hey this [ __ ]. guy he should have told us and so they. [ __ ] they they try these guys like. they're criminals and it was real bad. for science it was real bad for you know. seismology and the the the study of. Earth Quakes because they had given. because of their own ignorance they had. decided these people could figure it out.

so they're exonerated why Italian. earthquake scientists were exonerated. judge who overturned conviction yeah so. there was a conviction uh say hold on uh. say experts use the best available. science yeah you can't [ __ ] predict. earthquakes jackasses six scientists. convicted of manslaughter in 2012 so. only 11 years ago for advice they gave. ahead of the deadly la laquila. earthquake were victims of Uncertain and. fallacious. reasoning to say the three judges who.

acquitted the experts in reduced the. sentence of a seventh defendant last. November in a 389 page document. deposited in court on Friday since. released to the public a trio of. magistrates attacked the convictions on. multiple grounds and state that no blame. can be laid on the scientists for the. risk of analysis They carried out yeah. there's no way other scientists however. accuse the judges of failing to. understand modern seismology what does. that. mean well the judges definitely didn't.

understand it because they thought that. these people could accurately predict. when an earthquake is definitely going. to come and that's just not available. yet imagine telling the guy in the next. cell while you're in why are you in here. well ital's got goofy courts I. had oh real bad I had aanda Knox in here. well not that America doesn't I mean one. of the things that I do you had her in. here yeah yeah yeah she was great one of. the things that I do on a regular basis. is uh I have a very good friend Josh. Dubin who uh is a civil rights attorney.

and one of the things that he does he. used to work for with the Innocence. Project now he does stuff on his own and. his like main goal in life is to find. people that were wrongly convicted and. get them out and he gets a lot of people. out he's constantly doing it it's like. his main life's work it's his main. passion project and so we have we. highlight those cases like every three. months he comes on and we sit down and. we talk and you know he talks about. cases and he he'll bring in people he's. brought in several guys who spent 15.

years 20 years in jail for something. they didn't do wrongfully convicted you. brought them in here yeah yeah wow a. couple different guys and it's amazing. is Josh is I mean he's amazing he's a. [ __ ] saint but you get to realize our. court system sucks dick too but Italy's. is even worse and a Manda Knox got. [ __ ] railroaded like railroaded bad. and there's a really good Netflix. documentary that shows all the the stuff. that happened I mean there was so much. DNA evidence that connected to this one. guy who murdered the girl he 100% did it.

like they handprints with bloody. handprint yeah but this [ __ ] this. this prosecutor had it in his head from. the beginning that she was it he had a. stupid idea that it was definitely her. and he didn't want to look at any other. evidence and he suppressed evidence he. he didn't look at it he he knew that. this other guy was probably guilty but. it already said she was so he wanted to. convict her and he did it and he got her. locked up and then she won on appeal and.

she finally got out after years in jail. yes and then they tried her again while. she was in the United States yes but and. she was exonerated again but I mean this. poor lady and she's so interesting she's. so [ __ ] brilliant so smart and one of. the things that I said to her I said do. you think you would be the same person. if you had not gone through this. horrific experience like I would never. want you to go through this EXP. experience but because you did you're. this amazing fascinating person with. this like very.

introspective very open-minded view of. things like she's looking at things from. all these different angles because her. mind was tortured what was her answer. she she definitely would not have want. to do that but she definitely realizes. she's a different person because. absolutely she would have to be. incredible person because of it was the. guy they got was was he one of the. people there like it was was he from the. outside wasn't there like four people. there was a the guy who they think did.

it was uh a guy who knew the woman and. he had been with her and he was at that. [ __ ] place that night like he was. there and he was also a criminal he had. been breaking into people's places and. stuff like they knew that he had a. history of doing some [ __ ] up things. but they didn't have a connection. previous to this with murder and you. know he said he didn't do it he said he. he got there and someone was already. killing her and he ran away like a lot. of like [ __ ] ridiculous stories but. he's in now they got him in now no I.

don't I think they convicted him of. something else and I think he went to. jail for a certain amount of time and. then he got out I think he got convicted. for some other kind of crime wasn't it. like a breaking and entering thing or. something like that but the the most of. the evidence at least as it's presented. in the Netflix documentary and talking. to her seems to point to this one guy. that they're pretty sure did it it was a. horrific murder too it wasn't like it's. not like a normal thing that women do it.

was it was like a male thing like a. vicious knife murder you know what was. she like was she like what was her uh. Vibe. like like a person who's been through. hell yeah and because that person been. through hell like her mind is just very. unusual I mean the the amount of time. that she had to to sit and deal with the. fact that she was wrongfully convicted. icted in front of the whole world and. then even when she got back home how. many people really knew the whole story.

and how many people thought she actually. was a murderer somehow or another she. got away with it because most people. just read headlines you just read the. propaganda you just read like oh Amanda. knox's convicted of murder oh my God. she's a murderer you know and so this. poor lady who was 20 years old at the. time she's a kid and she's just over. there studying abroad and the next thing. you know she's locked up in a jail for. something she didn't do and it's in. front of the whole [ __ ] world and she. thinks she's not getting out she thinks. she's not getting out imagine that yeah.

and also then she gets to be embedded in. prison with all these women who have had. these horrific lives horrific stories of. abuse and this life of crime and their. whole family's filled with crime and. chaos and and you get to realize these. are just people just people that just. like went down the wrong road and just. all of it just didn't line up for them. just a little tiny fork in the road y. the wrong fork and it could happen to.

anybody wrong circumstances wrong time. wrong place you're born in the wrong. area wrong family wrong this wrong that. wrong friends bad decision you get drunk. you do this you do that next thing you. know you're in jail that's a lot of us. it's so much Randomness that for the. benefit of your life when you're born oh. yeah when what where are you born where. you you grow up who your parents are. it's like rolling dice mhm and if you. get a good situation it's just like roll.

rolling so many sets of sevens for years. in a row sevens and once you start doing. well it's easier to roll sevens which is. weird you know the rich get richer the. the the fortunate people become more. fortunate it's uh it's very very because. like a lot of people want to believe in. fate Fate's a beautiful thing to believe. in right this is all meant to be. kind of like takes away some pressure. but boy like mathematically that doesn't.

seem likely it seems likely there's a. lot of just like random [ __ ] chance. chance like it's not fate that a baby. dies a leukemia is that like someone. there's a plan for the baby to die of. leukemia that doesn't make any sense. like when people want to say that like. uh you manifest your own reality like do. you though cuz babies get shot in. drive-bys it does happen do you think. they're manifesting that no that's. random that's like chaos that happens. too like there's probably a lot of. factors that are all simultaneously. working together and the question is how.

much is fate a part of that is fate is. is your mind a part of that like how. much of it do you actually manifest out. of your own mind how much of your. choices change reality. itself there's just so many ways to S. like process what's happening CU if it's. all chaotic or maybe some of it is. isn't there's just so many versions to. look at it yeah it can't be figured out. really it's a mixture I think it's a big.

mixture you're trying to figure out. answers like we said before it's just so. chaotic but your brain is trying to have. a right way like yeah and then there's. choices you make right like where you. deide to move yes like I don't want to. live here anymore yeah I want to move to. a different place now you're all a. sudden you're in a new. reality you know that's an interesting. thing to do. you um so you were in Boston and then. you lived in California but now you're. back to Boston yeah in Carol out in the.

woods trees near when did you go back I. went back about 22 years ago wow I I. lived in Burlington then I went to. middle sex Community College in Bedford. then I went to Emerson College in Boston. then I started doing standup and then I. stayed like after I got out of College. stayed like 5 years and then I went. Boston then I went to Hollywood for two. years Emerson's like a performing arts.

college right yeah radio mass. communication what did you go for I went. for radio because I thought that I. didn't really I wanted to be a comedian. I had like my mind divided in half that. was my goal but I proud of me thought. that's not really going to happen maybe. if it doesn't happen maybe I can be a. guy on the radio maybe I can be funny on. the radio and then somehow get from the. radio onto the stage that how that would. happen I didn't know but that's why I.

went to that school as like my backup. plan I loved that school because not. really from when I learned about it cuz. everyone there was slightly odd yeah. like it had a it had a an automatic. screening system that if you decided you. wanted to go there you weren't normal. right there you know so then you get all. these people who decide to go there and. they're all a little bit OD and then you. started feeding off them so you even got.

more creative cuz every you knew was. creative yeah so what I got out of the. school was the people more than what I. learned in the actual School some of my. best friends is still from that time and. then I went on U tonight's show then I. went out to Hollywood for two years then. New York City for 5 years I thought. everyone when I lived in New York I. thought everyone should have to live in. the New York for one year everyone in. the United States that's what I thought. at the time cuz it was just you know.

you're like 30 years old and it's oh my. God then I went back to uh Santa Monica. for 12. years and then I thought you know. what I want to go back I want to go home. cuz the United States is like United. States but it's like five countries. environment looking there's New England. is Florida Colorado was completely. different Nevada here the you know the.

nor Utah the Northwest California it's. like seven different countries named one. thing but the my gut was thought I want. to go back now I want to go back to. where the seasons are where those. buildings are I was just drawn from my. gut to to go back when you were in Santa. Monica were you here because you were. doing Hollywood stuff and that's why you. felt like you needed to be here yeah I. was here like doing I was mainly going. on the road and I come back to LA but.

going on the road M and then I do some. movies like some partson movies some TV. but I was mainly going doing what I'm. doing and I thought well wait a minute. you know I'm in this place that I really. don't I didn't hate it but I didn't like. it it's like you I saw it as like a. waiting room like you're waiting for. something to happen waiting for this. other thing to happen and and then I. thought well I'm still I'm going on the. road mainly the audience doesn't care if.

I came from LAX or Logan they don't know. right and I thought well I don't I don't. want to be here waiting for something. else anymore this is what I do mainly. what I do so I'll just go home and I'll. do it based out of there and I'm happy. that I did it and at during that time. when I was gone I started to really like. nature I would go to Rhode Island in the. summer and I really became more and more. into nature so when I went back to.

Massachusetts I didn't want to live in a. city anymore I lived in Boston New York. Los Angeles now I wanted to be around. the trees cuz my mind was just like my. being was like I didn't want that. Madness anymore yeah just like oh you. know then I could go into the m i go to. Boston or whatever then I go on the road. into the madness then I come back and. it's trees. yeah that's the way to do it isn't. nature powerful I mean nature is. incredible it's medicine it is I.

remember when you did it I remember when. you went back to Boston because it was a. big deal a lot of people were talking. about it they like St move back to. Boston I was like whoa because nobody. moves back to Boston everybody goes from. Boston and they move to LA or they move. to New York but it was always this thing. that you kind of had to leave Boston cuz. uh unfortunately like what we talked. about with those great comics that uh. were around back then they never became. worldwide they they were just these huge.

talents that stayed in Boston and it was. a kind of a cautionary tale for a lot of. us that were the Next Generation like. hey I think you got to get out if you. really want to do TV if you really want. to do stuff you got to get out you got. to do the road you can't just do local. jokes to local people like even though. it's amazing and so much fun you really. like you kind of selling yourself short. if you don't get out there so we all so. when you went back I was jealous I was. like look really so I didn't even know.

people were weird than I went back so. free just went back I was like it's such. a gangster move to to like at the top of. your game killing it all over the world. doing standup like yeah I live back in. Boston it was a a gut feeling you know. your mind's only so much involved and. but your gut makes a lot of decisions MH. just like time is so precious right so. here I am in a place that I don't really. care for Los Angeles and meanwhile the.

time is going my life is going and and. it's like well why not be in a place. where I like where I am did you have. friends back there in Los Angels no. Boston yeah I had I had some friends. there. definitely I uh but I know most of my. friends still live in Los Angeles but I. have friends in New York and. Massachusetts and Los Angeles. I have a few friends still back home in. Boston it's very interesting it's good. to keep touch with them it's good to go.

back I love going back it's one of my. favorite places how often do you go back. well um last time I was there it was. probably the most emotional set I ever I. did the TD Garden and it was like for me. wow going congratulations thank you so. for me starting out there yeah doing. open mics wow and then coming back and. doing the garden and just [ __ ] crazy. sold out. amazing it was very emotional was like. oh my God yeah that's something else. pretty. wild but you know Boston is it's.

like if they know you came from. there there's. like there's a thing the way a town. Embraces you when you came from there. that's different than any other place. and Boston is a is a very proud City. very proud City like they love people. from Boston so it was like uh going back. there was like like look I did it you.

know like it worked out here I am I'm. back you know it's like to start out at. a place and also when you start out at a. place you know you're always kind of. like in the back of your mind you. remember how bad you sucked you know you. you remember what it was like in the. beginning and to be able to come back. and S out an arena it's just. weird but you know. Boston has got this like Rich history of. stand-up comedy that I think is unlike. any other city in the country because I.

think it was the only city where you. could have these top talents that never. left and so you you're dealing with like. this incredible high level of Comedy but. it's all local and it's just a bunch of. killers mean so it was very very unusual. I I think to this day there's no other. place like it because everybody in New. York was trying to get on TV and trying. to do this and that there was no real. show business there the show business. was when's your set you know yeah oh I.

got a a 8:00 at Nicks and you go down to. Knicks and you see your friends and. everyone's doing shows and there's shows. down the street the connection and shows. over there at dick D's comedy Vault and. it was like but there were comedians. like Paula Poundstone and Dennis Larry. and Kevin. meany and but. Boston uh. the people there they love the comedians. like I was you're talking about Boston. going back Bill Burr he was telling me.

before he did uh Fenway Park with Tony V. who's one of my favorite comian Tony V. what a prolific Bill bur just amazing. and he was telling me when he was. walking around the city before that. people knew he was going to do Fenway. and they were saying hey I hope it goes. great you know they they he felt like. they were rooting for him which is a. very cool thing I Co thing no one's more. Boston than Bill. b he's like the most Boston comedian.

ever you know yeah he's mad at so much. stuff he's hilarious he's so funny he's. amazing he's the best. yeah there's so many guys like that. Patrice when Patrice was in Boston and. there's so many goddamn killers that. area just produced it's also people. don't have a lot of attentions ban and B. they don't have a lot of tolerance for. stupid [ __ ] like come on get to the. jokes let's let's have some funny [ __ ].

you know over the years people have. asked me why so many comedians from. there what is it I don't I I canot even. answer you because when you think of all. the people all we've been mentioning. these this giant list of people from. this one. area I do not know why well I think it's. what you were talking about how the club. was built and then all a sudden. everybody came to the club and because. there was no real show business it was. really just about doing those shows.

because it was kind of isolated in yeah. like an island like that's how I saw. thinking back was like an island also. it's like when you have guys like Barry. kerans Oh and Barry kerans who was a he. was kind of like the Watchdog for. everything he's This brilliant guy who. had very high standards was a real. artist and was very politically aware. very socially aware and you know his. it was comedy was [ __ ] brilliant but. it was also very smart and abely kind of. set the tone absolutely a lot of what he.

talked about I didn't know what he was. talking about right he talking about. obscure political things and then he. opened the dingho ho comedy so the. connection started for about a year and. then Barry went and opened that in in. Min square and that was a whole other. thing than the connection that was more. like a clubhouse of insanity yeah and. and and you know he he was a great. comedian brilliant comedian and he ran. the place so that was an odd thing yeah.

cuz he saw the whole thing through the. mind of a comedian he's one of my. favorite people I love I he was amazing. he was an amazing guy and his in. influence I think was a huge part of. that that scene again was before my time. so I didn't get to experience the dingho. but I knew all those guys and I talked. to all them and they all talked about it. and everyone to a person was talking. about Barry that Barry was like you know. you didn't want Barry on your bad side. you didn't want bar like you didn't like.

hearing you do something like not a good. you know like kind ofy like he like and. younger guy I I was really good friends. with him but I heard years later I heard. that younger guys were afraid of him I. was afraid. of and then I thought well why I was and. then I thought well wait a minute let me. look at him as if I didn't know him yes. yeah one time he was being heckled at. the dingho and he the the lights on the. stage you know they were track lighting.

and he just turned the light around to. the guy in the audience and he started. hammering him like now the light is on. him Ah that's hilarious that's. hilarious yeah I was terrified of him. you were yeah well he was smarter than. everybody else he was a great comic and. he had super high standards and I. sucked like. [ __ ] please don't let this guy see my. set and F luckily I got very lucky he. didn't see my set until long later I was.

already a headline I was already killing. I was already good then he saw me and. then he said he told me I was really. funny I was like yes yes then I became. friends with him had on the podcast oh. really that's great he was and and then. you know he. just he he was a and then he did that. documentary where explained his abuse. and like what happened to him when he. was younger and like what you know what. sort of shaped him as a person I knew.

him so well and I didn't even know a lot. of that stuff no one I don't think. anyone knew when he went to Congress and. was arguing with them like that was. incredible we should explain what he did. because in the early days of like AOL. chat rooms and things along those lines. there was the people were openly trading. in child pornography and uh he found out. about it and and he exposed it and you. know he made it you know big part of his. his life's work to shut that [ __ ] down.

and this was the very very very early. days of the. internet yes did you you remember that. part of the movie where he's in show him. in there in Congress arguing with the. guy and then the lawyer beside him for. for the other side says some lawyer. thing and then Barry shreds him with. reality and then the guy said the lawyer. thing and then Barry shreds him with the. real point of the situation then the guy. stopped.

talking yeah Barry was the wrong guy he. was the wrong guy to argue with wrong. guy to be on the wrong side of an. argument funny hanging out too just. funny just. like always hilarious brilliant I think. and that's one of the reasons why the. scene emerged I think it was because of. Barry I think there's like a thing that. happens in scenes we have this top down. Force this one guy that's the gold. standard and then you have this Army of.

Assassins that's around this guy the. Kenny. Rogerson the Don. Gavin Killers Killers just a sea of. killers every Tony V everywhere you go. there's like so many Comics there were. just topnotch man I wouldn't I went into. Nick's comic stop one night one of the. things that Nicks used to do that was. absolutely brutal and uh this was when I. was a a beginning comic they would take. people like say if like um you.

know Billy Crystal was in town Billy. Crystal wanted to do stand up Billy. Crystal celebrated around the world he's. Billy Crystal he's an amazing comedian. everybody's gonna go see Billy Crystal. let's go see Billy Crystal he's at the. nexts comedy stop it would be Billy. Crystal but before Billy Crystal would. get on it would be Kevin Knox and then. it would be Steve Sweeny and Don Gavin. and Kenny Rogerson and Lenny Clark by. the time he got on that audience was. beat to [ __ ] and these guys were [ __ ].

killing they would all kill for like 15. of those guys kill just Roars people. falling out of their tables like they. they couldn't believe how funny it was. and then they would set these poor guys. up and these guys were used to doing. soft shows on the road they picked their. opening act they have a you know nice. soft casino type show hey it's Mr. Saturday night it's Billy Crystal just. eating plates of [ __ ] they r a long.

shoran at Nick's comedy stop at 9:00 on. a. Thursday it was brutal it was like. that's how they did it whenever someone. came into town they set them up did they. do it on purpose. 100%. 100,000% And every I didn't know that. and every comedian that went up they no. one did new stuff. no one took setting like a set up a set. up burying that guy they were burying. that guy they would do it to everybody.

did you see it oh I watched it yeah I. watched a lot of guys eat dick yeah I. watched a lot of guys Richard Bower I. watched a lot of guys they just threw. him to the Wolves but the only guy I saw. come out of that like a rose was D. merera they did that to D myera he was. headlining and they had like 15 killers. on in front of them like everybody's. murdering and D just went up there like. a [ __ ] Pro and rode the wave and went. on stage and immediately was killing and.

I was like that's a [ __ ] Pro look at. him yeah he's in New York hilarious oh. yeah Philly started out in Philly Philly. I only know him from New. York yeah I became friends with him. later in life but I actually paid to see. him before I was ever his friend so I. remember seeing him at Nick's comy stop. and bringing my girlfriend at the time. cuz I was just starting to do standup. and I was just I want to see all the. good ones when they came into town and I. got to see that see D rera in his prime.

it was amazing but he was like the only. guy that I ever saw that ran that. Gauntlet and came out of it in the other. end looking like a pro did you tell him. later when you became friends with him. yeah yeah yeah and he knew it too talk. about it he was he knew they knew what. they were doing he's like oh that's what. they did they say you up they just threw. every [ __ ] local killer whenever a. big name guy was in town all those guys. would be there to do sets it was 100% on. purpose it's kind of cruel actually it's.

[ __ ] terrible it's terrible Richard. Lewis was another one he got it they. gave it to him they love him though yeah. it was a great comic just it's just like. that his style of comic was his audience. and you wanted like his but if you have. a bunch of other stuff on before that. that's just murderous that style is very. hard to change gears and get into his. absolutely cuz they're all like Indie. 500 cars different version just like and.

so intense intense intense yeah yeah top. quality you can't get better than those. guys you can't get better than those. guys and really laugh out loud just I. think ever I think ever of all the my. years of Comedy I mean it's it's hard. now because you you you go back and. watch it now it's like you got to. realize it's a totally different time in. the world it's it's not. it's not um it. doesn't it's not our culture it's a. different culture it's the culture of. 1980s things were more risque they're.

more like when you said things they were. more shocking and a lot of that stuff's. already been said so many times now that. if you go back and listen to it it's. like some of it doesn't really hold up. the same way but for the time in those. days those guys were the cream of the. crop and if you had to follow them in. Boston like good [ __ ] luck because I. don't think anybody never killed hard I. didn't I didn't those guys I didn't want. to go on after them I did cuz I was. proud of the lineup but I knew that the.

the sound from the audience of the. laughs I knew they were going to it was. going to be more than me but I just. accepted it cuz it was like wave you. know when a big wave. hits yeah all of those guys. yeah Gavin. Sweeny Donovan did you feel any pressure. to sort of uh ever to change your act in. the beginning before you made it whether.

was it like were you just committed to. that kind of. style I was well committed is means a. decision there was no decision it was. like like I told you that's how I wrote. it and it came out like that it meshed. with how I speak this is how I speak and. for some reason accidentally the. abstract jokes went good with uh my. voice voice but the the audience they. weren't thrown off from it people ask me. well they you know it was different with.

the audience take a while to come around. and they didn't because right from the. first three minutes they laughed at some. of it and they didn't laugh at other. things so then I knew right then it. wasn't how I was saying it or my voice. or anything they were they don't care. about anything they don't give a [ __ ] as. long as it's funny yeah so they thought. some of it was funny and some of it. wasn't and Mike Donald helped me a lot. because he saw me the first time and I. was naively disappointed cuz I didn't. laugh at everything which is insane but.

that was out of being naive and he said. look it take that material he never did. it before take that set and take out the. stuff that didn't work and put other. stuff in that works I mean to try out. and when I left from him telling me that. I thought it was a success because they. laughed at some of it here I am wanting. to I was 16 wanting to try it and then I. they left it a a minute and a half I oh. my God they left it so then he made me.

leave when I left I was like oh my God. oh my God I got to keep changing and. changing and changing but I didn't think. of changing my style or anything because. like I was saying with fingerprint. before it was just just how I just what. it was it didn't even answer to my mind. to change it yeah some of it worked some. of it didn't change it try more try more. try more and I'm glad there wasn't any. Show Business there because someone. might have said you can't be mumbling. over on the.

side get a sport jacket and talk loud. you know you you know what I mean there. was no one watching from that angle I. mean and all of those guys that we were. just talking about none of them are like. the next guy you know it was like not it. was like a factory that only made one. car and then they made a different car. know it was like a Mustang then this. there was no assembly line every one of. those guys is completely unique everyone.

yeah it's um that one of the interesting. things about the documentary when. standup stood out was that you were kind. of the first guy that got discovered in. Boston and then you took off and then it. became a different thing because then. people realized that that was possible. and so then there was a in the. documentary at least there was this. attitude where a lot of guys had like. hey what about me like where's my. where's my thing how come it's not. happening for me you know I'm a. headliner I'm a this some of that like.

why why isn't this and it became where a. lot of guys were trying to make it. now do you remember that time I knew. later when uh when I heard about it. after I had gone but I mean but I we all. wanted to go on the TV like I that. everyone wasn't doing doing it just to. be doing it in Boston I wanted to. someday go on TV I had no idea how I.

would get there and then I got a lucky. break cuz Peter lell came to Boston and. he saw me in the club cuz it was an. article about the dingho a freelance. writer wrote about it and went into the. uh LA Times this weird Comedy Club. Chinese restaurant and then he read it. and then he went back East looking at. call Coles for his kids were getting out. of high school they did a summer trip to. Boston and New York to look at schools. and he remember the article and he.

called up the club I'm going to go in. and you know and then he saw me and then. I went went on there so I got a very uh. lucky lucky break but I know you're. talking about like I mean I was just. insanely. lucky and then but that St uh Fran's. movie I mean he never even made it a. movie before he never made a movie I. know and that was a very interesting. thing because say we were all rowers. like a r guy is not going to make a.

movie he's not but a comedian a creative. guy he's going to make a movie about the. time you don't have a movie of your time. in high school or your best time in. college we have a document by one of our. own guys of the time yeah and it's still. all of us one of our favorite times in. our whole lives so it's a precious gift. that Fran made the movie to to see to.

see this. thing yeah and for us for guys from. Boston it's it's so fascinating because. it does really do a fantastic job of. capturing how unusual that scene was how. strange it was and how it's really never. happened again since yes so there's two. things happening the scene is happening. on its own and now there's a movie about. the scene yeah it's it's it's tremendous. it's tremendous he did an amazing job.

he's so smart that guy yeah it's a great. uh piece of like a piece of History like. for for Comics too like any comic from. anywhere in the world watch that. documentary it's a it's a great insight. into how something like that can happen. and I think something like that can. happen in a lot of places it just. doesn't it takes a lot of things that. have to like. go right to make something like that. happen like a lot of things line up just. like like flukes lining up and and i'.

people like that movie who weren't even. in that time or not even from Boston. they like seeing that unique uh thing. that evolved on its own yeah no it's. very special when you do stand up now. are you uh doing like the local clubs in. Boston to [ __ ] around to work on new. stuff or do you just take new stuff. right to the stage how do you do I mix. it in with my show like I have like.

spots in my ACT where I know I'm going. to put this stuff in put the new stuff. in yeah just mix it in and most of it. doesn't work I don't know about you for. only. for I don't know what you're batting. averages but only one in three or four. jokes that I write gets a big enough. laugh to stay in the act yeah so I try. it three times if it gets nothing three. times I know it's never getting anything. but if it works once I don't even really.

count on it because it might have been a. fluke you know about the audience how I. said it the mood of the a but if it. works three times then I can trust it. but if they don't laugh at it three. times then I get rid of it I don't even. remember what it is I get rid of it but. I don't think that I was wrong I still. think it's funny if I wrote it down I. think it's funny otherwise I wouldn't. write it down but they don't agree with. me they're in charge they're the editors. don't you the audience is editors they. don't think they're the editors but.

they're going like this and they're in. charge so I just throw everything out. that they don't. like I still cannot predict I don't know. about you I cannot predict in all these. years what they're going to laugh at I. cannot write something down and think. this is this is going to be on a scale. of what 1 to 10 this is a seven. nothing 500 people of Silence to create. manufacturing silence for for other.

countries I can't predict can you. predict when you doing no there's some. some setups become bigger than the bid. itself sometimes like it's a setup and. the setup gets a huge laugh and then. you're like what is going on here where. is that you didn't get to the point yet. yeah I I didn't even think that part was. funny and then you know the that is one. of the interesting things about standup. is that the the audience is part of the. editing process and that you really. create comedy with other people you. don't really do it in a vacuum come up.

with the ideas in a vacuum but the way. it becomes an actual bit that you could. do multiple times it has to sort of. alive it's it's alive that's why I don't. put jokes like on Twitter or something. to me the joke isn't alive thing it. should be said out loud and heard by. people see it just written doesn't do it. for you had one of the most interesting. uses of Twitter ever cuz you started. writing a book on. Twitter. yes so each tweet each tweet you would.

write was a part of this book that. someone could like literally go back to. your original Twitter feed and start. reading this book a little bit every day. well what happened was I wrote a a ma an. article for Rolling Stone magazine in. like. 1987 it was a a fairy tale about how the. beach was invented it was very. interesting weird and I would read it. every five years I would read it and. think oh I should write another story. sometime so then the one of last times I.

read it I should write another story and. then right then Michael O'Brien got me. this Twitter thing you know oh here you. you should do something on here so then. I thought all right I'm just going to. try to write another story I'll just. write it on here so I wrote two. sentences then two sentences then the. next day two sentences because it didn't. like I said it didn't enter my mind to. write jokes yeah I'll try to write some. and then people were leaving I did it. for like four or five days and people. were leaving messages saying someone has. to tell him what this is for this is.

really good for his jokes this is. perfect and other people would be. saying he's writing a novel on Twitter. this this this is. insane so I did it on and off for few. weeks and then I stopped writing it for. a while and then I thought I should just. just keep writing this but not on. Twitter and then that's how the book got. going that's interesting as what a great.

way to start a book yeah another fluke. you know I read the thing about the. beach I think I should write something. else I have no idea what it is I start. writing about hair this kid in school. and then oh oh this take it off there oh. this should keep going it wasn't like oh. I'll write a book it was this should. keep going yeah. because there never really big plan big. planning out at least in what I do and. then I just started doing it and it went.

further and further and I really liked. doing it because like we were saying. before the uh the jokes from noticing. you know like the sweep of the radar arm. you walking down the street you see. something see but with this I actually. after I started doing it I I started to. sit down on purpose like for a couple of. hours a day focusing right on this kid. in this. class and that was different than just.

random things coming into my mind so I. was focusing it and I couldn't stop. doing it I mean I would do it for a. couple of hours a day but it just it. kept going and going and I was creating. this weird. world and I was fascinated what was in. my head because of I was sitting there. on purpose because it was like going. into your own head with a flashlight you. know in the caves when there stuff. written on it was like I was going in my.

own head with a flashlight cuz I was. determined to try to write for two hours. and that determination made me go deep. in like and there was all this [ __ ] in. there that I had no idea if I hadn't. focused and then what the stuff that I. thought of that had nothing to do with. the book just life. things would come back to me and go oh. this this can go right in here you know. for what I do oh two couple sentence.

joke two sentence like and then have the. audience laugh hopefully then it's like. a narrow window to say and then laugh. but I had stuff in my head that wasn't. going to go through that window it. wasn't going to be good for standup I. had other stuff I mean I'm not. complaining compling about that's how. the jokes are that's just how it is and. then when I started writing this thing I. thought oh I know what I'm going to do. after he kept going I thought I'm going.

to put a funnel on this kid's head and. I'm going to pour everything I think. about being alive into his head and. it'll seem like he's thinking it I mean. he can't really be seven-year-old. couldn't be thinking this but so I got. to express a lot of stuff in my mind. that wouldn't ever be expressed in the. way I do standup so it was a very. like I really lik doing it I had fun.

doing it that's it's awesome that you. have that free Pro your process is so. free like your process is just like go. where the whim takes you and then just. follow it and then just be open to. it yeah I had no book deal I had no. thing I was just like when I said before. creativity is it's like playing it's. like it's fun like finger paints I was. just having fun discovering what was.

coming out of me cuz I was sitting down. trying to do it on purpose like it was a. whole other thing and. I it was playing it's like playing with. thoughts it's like you're hanging out. with yourself me and you are talking. right now but when you're alone joking. it's like this almost you're joking and. you're reacting to what you joke about. so this even you know it's one thing but. it's almost like this plural it's like. there's you and your thoughts and you're. reacting your thought in you can almost.

be a little bit different so you oh oh I. oh I like what you just said there. oh oh that's nuts you can't say oh what. about this you know it's like like I. guess I'm a major loner person but I'm. never lonely very rarely so it was like. you're hanging out with yourself you're. your own buddy even in the book it says. that the kid was his own best friend I. feel like that about me I'm My Own best.

friend so so writing it was like hanging. out with myself chitting around like if. you would be not in a bar with your. friends but in the sense that you're. just having fun yeah that's a great way. to think about it it's not a big it's. it's very light light like I creating. should be a fun thing not like oh at. least for me it's I've G I've done it. like that the whole time but I didn't.

even decide to do it like that it was. just how it would. be it's. uh I don't know it's a playful thing the. whole thing it's always interesting to. me the different creative processes that. everyone has their own different way to. definitely there's always interesting to. hear how other people you your your. process is so different and also one of. the things that's different is like this. the thing that you're doing these shows.

and you're just sandwiching these new. bits in between your other bits and. you're not you're not really like. performing at clubs you're not like. dropping in and doing a lot of sets at. like regular places no just in these. theaters that I'm doing do you miss the. club environment though no I I don't I I. would be in it like um I don't really I. got so used to where I am now and it's. normal to me it's like very like it's. very comfortable to be with the stage. and they're out there you know if I ever.

go into a club for some reason it's. almost jolting to me cuz they're they're. right on you yeah you know it's like oh. oh my God I'm in the cage I want to be. outside the cage looking into the. cage so this is just how I've been doing. it for years right theaters yeah that is. the difference between the big stage Ag. and the audience is below you it's like. a completely different Open Mic really. should be in a nice theater in front of. a full audience that should be the open.

mic no well I'm just as an anal as an. analogy because when when you start. you're starting at 11 at night and. there's 10 drunk guys you should start. out in a nice theater and work your way. to 10 drunk guys after you've been doing. it for four years you you know how to. handle it yeah so now you you start in. most anyway yeah but that I think is. where you really learn how to do yes. that's the other side you I don't think.

you can really adli that well in those. big ass stages it's different like in in. an arena I've I'm always on script you. know I don't really [ __ ] around there's. that many people but what with a club. there's like so much room for [ __ ]. around I'm always on I present what I've. written I'm not making anything up there. always it's like always I know exactly. okay. okay what do you do with. hecklers I uh I ignore them yeah.

because it's the hardest thing to do. really like if I took a tennis ball. right now and threw it right beside your. head you you would jolt and the Heckler. is like he's he's trying to make you. move I think it's the hardest thing to. do is to have no reaction no reaction no. reaction then you make the audience have. an a reaction because they're mad at. their car but eventually they goes away.

if you don't. ackowledge what do you do what do you do. do you do you enjoy it I don't mind. sometimes it just depends on what. they're doing it's like if someone. interrupts a bit when you're in the. middle of it that sucks cuz you're. ruining it for everybody yeah you're. ruining the timing you're you're making. it all about yourself yeah and you know. that's the thing you're going to run. into you ran into a lot in la la more. than anywhere I've ever been where. people just feel like they need to talk. yeah well that's the thing I don't. understand with comedi see being a.

comedian one of the good things I think. or important things is to talk to the. audience like you really talking to one. person they don't see themselves as a. crowd they I'm just they're watching the. guy so there's like one person times 400. but it's still one time 400 yeah and and. if you're communicating well is they. feel like they're really talking to you. that's why sometimes they talk back but. if they went to a play they wouldn't say.

what the hell are you putting the glass. on that table for Imagine at a play. yelling out shut the other door. yeah it doesn't happen or yell at the. movies yeah yeah yeah it's one of those. things where it seems like you're just. talking and everybody can talk everyone. can talk so when someone's on stage is. talking you're like I do that thing too. yes well I'll say this to this guy yeah. I'm going to I'm going to help out yeah.

something and they think they're helping. you yeah did you like that thing I said. oh it's the worst there some people are. just not good at being audience members. and so some people are just very. self-centered they don't care if there's. 500 other people in the room they want. to yell they want to say something just. ego and. stupidity but it's also live it's part. of the fun of live things that you do. have to interact with all these strange. people it's live there's no it's like. action 80 minutes later cut there's no.

like oh let me try that joke again no do. you do do you ever do multiple shows in. a night anymore no I haven't done that. in years and years and years cuz it it. was just too many one line or jokes I. wouldn't know if I already said it. before one time I I I was doing that and. and I started into this. joke I was I was. saying and when I when I got right that. far in I realized they had already said.

it 20 minutes earlier and then I said. just. checking and they die laughing so then I. put that in on purpose every night I. would start the joke another one of the. jokes as if I didn't know I said it and. you can feel them getting uncomfortable. just checking but that's an example of. how mistakes don't you soak up mistakes. like accidents like your brain is like a. a computer oh that worked oh that worked.

I need that half a second I need that oh. yes yes yes that's the thing that you. said it's like it's really is like aive. it's a living art form it's and you're. feeding it when you go to work yeah and. sometimes like something will go bad and. that bad thing is the best thing that. ever happened to that bit you're like oh. this is the way to handle it this is to. talk about it and you don't know unless. you do it in front of people over and. over and over and over and over and over. and the audience is different they're.

like one being I find that they're like. one they have the personality of one. person like they have their own energy. their own mood almost their own and you. can sense what they are in about a. minute you can know okay the this is. what this is going to be like how do you. get opening acts like who do you who do. you choose to take with you on the. road I had them for a long time but then. the show I do like an 85 minute show and.

I thought I don't I'm not going to bring. a guy now anymore. because the audience would be too tired. by the time I got to my 80 minutes like. if you had a guy they sitting there for. 15 minutes then the first guy comes on. for like 12 minutes then there's another. break so all that energy is now going to. be f felt when I get to 70 minutes so I. but I so I thought I want all I don't. want them to be tired so you go on by. yourself yeah would would you take yeah.

you start the show off and then you walk. out there. yeah yeah for. years yeah that's a way to do it I mean. it's fun way to do it wild going on by. yourself like the audience only has so. much like a movie you can only pay. attention for so long I I think and. listening fig you know it's tiring to. follow someone their little whatever.

they're saying anyway that's what I. learned to do it that way I do um have. guys go on with me and one of the things. I do in town when I do local shows is I. have a lot of people go on in front of. me really yeah because it it's like. running with weights on like by the time. I get up everyone's tired so I have to. be like really focused oh you do that on. purpose yeah cuz so it's they're tired. exactly yeah and I'll you know I do like.

the Joe Rogan and friends show I'll have. like five killers on in front of me. sometimes six so the show's an hour and. a half old before I even get on stage no. way wow. yeah you can feel yeah that's crazy you. feel that audience like Jesus Christ. yeah and you do that to make yourself. better yeah yeah it's put yourself in a. like a state where you have to be on. point you have to be very very energetic.

an hour and a half before you hit. sometimes more one time I do with all. those guys who was two hours old before. I got on stage you kidding me no no but. it does help it does help because it. really makes you tighten your act up and. then when you're on and someone's only. on in front of you for like 20 minutes. and just getting the crowd warmed up oh. my God it's like so easy so. different but if you could take the. lessons that you learn from doing the. crowd like the late night spot like when.

all these people around before you and. the show's really old you can take those. that that energy and bring it to a fresh. audience it's like it really is like. running with weights on yeah yes you're. training extra yeah it's also too I. think that I like a show where people. get to see a lot of different stuff one. of the things that I'm trying to do with. this comedy club is I want a lot of. different styles a lot of different. people I want I want people to see it. this guy does it different than she does.

she does it different than he does and. everybody's doing their own it's like. it's part of the thing is to showcase. the art form the club is really. amazing it was really fantastic two. rooms designed specifically like you. said comedy Louis CK who I think is. brilliant giving you some in points on. how to lay it out like brilliant man. just and everyone was in a good mood. there it's like you know it's like.

that's your own Island you have your own. island of of at fertile thing you get. there happening yeah we're creating a. magnet for comedy yes. yeah that's the idea congratulations on. that that's just tremendous it's very. exciting it's almost it feel Sur real. when you're in place I could see that. yeah it's like wow is this real we. really do this cuz everything is perfect. everything's perfect the lighting is. perfect the sound's perfect the rooms. are perfect the monitors and the Green.

Room are perfect Green Room hang. area yeah we did it all the right way. and it's fun to be able to do something. like that it's very exciting and now. because of that because of the pandemic. and all the different things that. happened where things just kind of fell. into place we have this spot and then. there's like world class comedians here. ranne lives here Ron White lives here. Tim Dylan Tony Hinchcliffe and [ __ ]. Tom sagur Christina pitsky they all live.

in the area they all live here I didn't. know that yeah like 13 or 14 worldclass. comedians live here now incredible and. they're all dropping in all dropping in. just popping in having fun anytime with. people are in town for the weekend. they'll come in early do my show do. Sunday night shows hang out do the the. little boy shows the little tiny room. have fun it's just got it's an amazing. environment you know and every week it. seems like we have you know some new. crazy guest Pops in it's very exciting.

it's like an art an art school not. school but it's like a is a creative. building yeah and that's the purpose of. it right the the whole purpose of it for. all of us to help us develop comedy to. write your [ __ ] and then to also to have. a place where people can come and have a. good time that's the beautiful thing. like watching people leave when the show. is over and they have these giant Smiles. on their face they're leaving God damn. it's the best feel in the world it's the. best feel in the world you made people. feel good they came they they got. babysitters they did all the stuff they.

they got to the club and then just. [ __ ] laughing and having fun it's the. best I love it to death you should feel. good about creating that place for all. those people I do but I did it for me. too it's a little selfish yeah but both. you know yeah both for sure it's it's. definitely not set up just for me it's. set up for everybody it's our club and. it's I could tell seeing you last night. that you love being in the air you love. the. whole you know me and my friend Dean we.

have this term called The Treehouse. Treehouse is our term meaning when. something is done created for just for. fun just like when you were a kid and. you're 12 and you're building something. and oh oh oh oh has no like outside and. that's what you have you have a like a. giant treehouse for all this fun yeah. it's fun and it's also a great place to. talk shop like guys get off stage and. like do you see my new thing I'm doing.

this new thing and then we'll all talk. about it like how did you set it up and. like oh oh what you still doing that. part no I dropped that part and now I. got this part like oh that's way better. oh my God and when you see people do. stuff like that and create right in. front of you and you watch the sets you. watch their bits grow it's all just like. it's so much fuel there's so much. [ __ ] gasoline in the air so many. matches it's like whoa you know it's fun. it's very exciting I love it I'm so. happy we could do it and this is the. perfect place to do it too because there.

wasn't really a scene here and now there. is so that's exciting so the town loves. it and the people love that they could. just go down there anytime they want to. whenever they can get tickets at least. and go see some shows the the city's. very into it I imagine yeah the city. embraced it like really early on they. were very excited that we moved here. because California sucked like this was. part of it was like they were like yeah. California [ __ ] sucks right like yeah. it sucks I'm glad I'm here and so it was.

part of the fun of it and also like when. has that ever happened before where just. a bunch of world class comedians just. moved somewhere and set up shop there's. been scenes before but the scenes kind. of already existed yes this is a. different thing landing on another. planet yeah it's like Boston in the 70s. it really is in a lot of ways where it. didn't exist before but people moved. here so it's even more extreme it wasn't. just like Boston was pulling from funny. guys that were in the area now that. there's a club they can go on stage this.

was different because this this is like. everyone said hey let's let's move. there you know and they moved here. before I even had a club that was was. crazy cuz the club I had another place. that I had bought and uh that deal fell. apart because the the place was kind of. a mess and the whole story was a mess. but that club that setback because I. bought this one place then I had to get. out of the deal and then buy a new place. that was like a whole year plus of.

wasted time and that was uh when. everybody was moving here too and so. then we were just doing local clubs like. Little Rock and Roll clubs it's plays. the Vulcan gas company which is. basically like an EDM club and we were. doing sets there and then the creek in. the cave opened and so that was nice. it's a nice little club and we do sets. there so we we did clubs in town but I. didn't have the place yet and people. were still moving here just to do those. shows because of the scene yeah just. creating yeah because it was already.

there was already saguro was already. moving here Tim Dylan already moved here. henchcliffe had moved here there was. already these Comics that were coming. and we were all talking about it and so. then people would come to Austin they. would do my podcast and they would do. these shows with us they'd be like God. damn you guys are having so much fun I. want to move here I'm like [ __ ] move. here come on come move here excellent. plenty of spots to go on stage there's a. lot of clubs in the town like the music. scene in Los Angeles in the 60s all the.

people music from all over the Canada. the United States that whole thing yeah. ex. yeah yeah so that's what's exciting. about it to me that it worked out you. know that it's actually happening and. it's new I mean it's really only been. two months old. wow yeah the club W just think of that. think of the history that's going to. happen think of the stories that are. going to come out of this this exciting. yeah it's exciting and it's also.

exciting for the development of Comedy. because we're really dedicated to that. we have two nights of Open Mic nights. all of our door staff the door staff all. auditions they're all Comics they. auditioned to get those jobs with their. standup and then they have spots that. they can go up throughout the week like. they're getting a lot of spots like. these guys are going on stage constantly. so and they're seeing each other get. better so it's a kind of a competitive. environment too you're seeing like oh. this guy's [ __ ] talented like this. one girl is rising up and this one guy's.

got to figure it out and like you're. watching even over the course of just. the last two months these people learn. and grow and this is like this pressure. cooker thing going on there too because. you know Shane Gillis will stop by Dave. Vel will sto by Rich Voss Dave Chappelle. and Andrew Schultz it's like it's crazy. in there it's like every night there's. some more wild [ __ ] going on and so. there's this real excitement of a of a. new thing like people realize it's very. special yeah this energy that's down.

there that's amazing that that it's just. only two months old for some reason I. thought it was longer than that it just. seems like it's been there when you're. in it it feels like it's been around. forever it feels like The Shining like. the like the [ __ ] Overlook Hotel like. it's always been there it really does. cuz that building is a 1927 building and. that building has had Stevie Ron on. stage in the 1980s and there was all the. like there's if you look in the green.

room all those posters that are around. the top of the walls those are all. concert posters from people that. performed at the rits wow so it's like. the Misfits the Butthole Surfers Black. Flag like all these different bands that. performed there we have all their so. there's like the memories of all of. those things that happened in that that. place and they're kind of burned into. the framework of the. building you feel it in there I know. that sounds like woo woo [ __ ] but. when you're in that building there's a.

an added element in the ingredients of. whatever the [ __ ] that building is I. agree because there can't be that much. intensity creativity in that one. building without it seeping into the. walls yeah I think into the atmosphere I. think there's something to that I always. felt that about The Comedy Store I. always felt that about like dangerfields. in New York City there's like clubs you. go into and you just go whoa this place. is alive like this place like I feel. this place like w you know and that I.

felt that the moment I went into the. Alamo it was almost like it was asking. me to do it like when I was walking. around when it was the Alamo Draft House. but when it was uh the Ritz Theater you. know uh they had leased it to the Alo. Draft House for a long but then the Alo. Draft House there went under during the. pandemic so when I was walking around it. was just this empty theater but it was. almost like it was telling me to do this. it's like you're walking around like. this is what you can do you could raise.

the floor up you could lower the ceiling. and fix that stage but a different stage. up you're like yeah okay and I'm walking. around it's like come on we're going to. take care of you you take care of us. we'll take care of. you it's like it feels like the building. is happy that we're there I know it. sounds crazy but that's literally what. it feels like when when I pull in like. the building's like thanks for coming. back cuz you all of a sudden it's alive. yeah you feel it and it's alive with. happiness and fun yes you can't ignore.

your feelings yeah your feelings are. real I mean maybe I'm making it all up. maybe it's all in my head maybe it's. convenient doesn't matter it's the same. it doesn't matter it doesn't matter yeah. it's the same feeling you know I have to. uh guess guess what I have to do you got. to pee no you got to leave no that's it. I have to pee. I I we up you want to wrap it up yeah I. think so it was fun thank you very much. I really appreciate it thank you for. having me so much my pleasure I truly. enjoy there's your book it's Harold um.

did you do an audio version of it yes. yes nice yeah and so that's available to. uh uh pre-order the book today when is. it available May 16th okay so real close. real close and will the audio will be. available May 16th as well yes nice and. you did the audio yes perfect that's. something else that would be awesome you. can't have anybody else do that thank. you my pleasure brother I really. appreciate it it was it was fun hanging. out with you last night absolutely this. next time I go there I'm going to hang.

out longer cuz you know I was trying to. save my. [Music]. stories I know you didn't want to talk. last night I only have three stories no. listen we can we could talk forever man. I knew that yesterday I was like don't. worry about it let's have fun yeah it. was it was great was great this been an. amazing experience thank you very much. my pleasure listen man I've always been. a giant fan so it's it's great to be. become friends with you and get to know. you appreciate you I think you're an. amazing comedian I said in the beginning.

thank you unbelievable thank you I. absolutely feel the same way about me. thank you very much bye. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music]. everybody and.