Joe Rogan Experience #1971 - Howie Mandel

[Music]. by night. can you hear me I hate perfect okay. hello Howie Mandel hi Joe Rogan good to. see you my friend I know very good to. see you I know and and amazing to see. you before you start anything I've got. to tell you how excited are you did we. start no yeah we're starting okay I got. to tell you how excited I am to see you.

I am the biggest fan if if there's one. thing that I'm a fan of it's Innovation. and I think that you have become the. comedy innovator and and. um I'm blowing smoke up your ass right. at the beginning of this and I I gotta. say what I've seen from the outside you. know. in 1978 I came down to The Comedy Store. and I I got up on a lark Mike binder got. me up there on a lark I I wasn't not.

pursuing it I had gone on at Yak Yuks in. Toronto and I fell in love with this. Mitzi gave me my biggest Break. um and there was a guy by the name of. George Foster who was in the audience. that night that said hey do you want to. do TV and I said yeah and he hired me to. do make me laugh which I did with binder. and a bunch of other wow people and with. no intent of making this uh um a career. you know I I didn't I didn't pursue. comedy I knew nothing about comedy I was.

a fan of Comedy I watched comedy stand. up I even when I went to Yak Yuks I had. never. you know I don't know let me get back to. you and then I'll talk about I'll talk. about me but the thing is that I'm aware. of the history of comedy and when I was. a kid it was in New York everybody went. to New York that's where Lenny Bruce was. working you showed me a picture of Lenny. Bruce and then when Carson made his way. out to California there was a shift. where everybody had to come to.

California you know and you had to get. on at the comedy store or maybe the. Improv with the intent of maybe if you. were lucky getting a spot on The Tonight. Show right yeah and I don't know how old. are you 55 55 you're a kid how old are. you I'll be 68 this year you look. [ __ ] great thank you maybe all this. knuckle touching is the way to go I. don't know what the [ __ ] it is I I don't. know that I but anyway the coin is that. that there was only one place to go and.

make it in comedy and that was. California and that was you needed a. spot at the comedy store and anybody who. was anybody either got a spot at the. Improv or The Comedy Store and then even. if somebody didn't know you and they. came up to you and they said are you a. comic and and oh what do you do you'd. say I'm a stand-up comic they go were. you ever and Johnny and if you weren't. on Johnny then they kind of dismissed. you. but that was the truth yeah and I. believe now and this is the smoke that. I'm blowing up your ass there is a shift. you don't have to go to California.

anymore you don't have to be in New York. you don't have to be anywhere but you. got to be in Austin you got to come to. Texas or you got to be part of whatever. it is this movement that you have moved. out here and if you look at the people. that are getting huge clicks online for. you know their uh their specials Arisha. fear and Shane Gillis and all these. other guys what what do they have in. common they came and they touched you. you know and I think that that is where.

comedy's going and these people with. podcasts are now selling huge amounts of. tickets without going on one they don't. have a Tonight Show to go they don't. have a club to hit and now you opened up. the mothership which is I think properly. named because I believe that this is if. there is a geographical a geographical. epicenter for comedy. it is here you know now and I think you. did that I've I've never met somebody. that you know Mitzi was the last person.

that kind of Missy short I'm talking. about yeah but accidentally did it you. know because that was just something she. won in a divorce and I said you know she. was the perfect person to have it you. know right but she didn't know that yeah. but she had the best sensibility for. comedy and she was so ruthless she. mentored me she she helped me in so many. ways right what she gave me my we have a. lot in common in that she gave us me my. breakfast yeah no I know I recognize her. I saw her I knew her yeah they're both.

pretty dope right it is it is a great. painting but the thing about Mitzi if. you don't know the the beginnings of. that you know it was Sammy Shores Club. it was her husband's Club who was the. opening act for Elvis Presley right. which is hilarious that she took a. divorce and she's not a comic. well you because you take [ __ ] that's. like you're taking uh you take custody. of a child and you're not a parent Sugar. Shane Mosley the boxer his ex-wife took. one of his championship belts. but it looks nice with certain tops you. know how goddamn crazy that story is no.

that guy went to war with his hands he. was throwing Knuckles at another skilled. man and won a World title got this. beautiful belt strapped the whole crowd. cheers and she's like no it's mine she. took it so Sammy Shore was telling jokes. for people who audiences that weren't. his they were Elvis's right and he. opened up a building for his friends to. work out and Mitzi went now it's mine. and then he told everybody that was in. the business not to work there right so. she got all these kids all us kids would.

show up and work because we wanted stage. time and that's how people started. blasting off you know Jimmy J.J Walker. and uh what's his who did uh not my job. man uh Freddie Prince you know and. that's and that became the and that's. why when you started seeing Carson out. in La he'd go we saw this young kid last. night at The Comedy Store and that's. what made it. big and I think by the same token you're. the new Mitzi with less hair where you.

keep touching these people like um. that's how I hear personally I and I. think a lot of other people hear about. the the Brian Collins and the their. stand-up and their Ari and Shane and. Bert and all these other. guys that are Arena they're playing. [ __ ] Arenas in theaters now yeah that. was there was a select few when I was. young you know I was talking to you. outside I used to Goat what year did you. start at The Comedy Store I remember. seeing you I started the conference tour. in 94 94 and you got news radio out of.

there right I was already on news radio. when you started yeah I know a lot of. people I was actually on another show I. was on I think I got past like in. between shows I got passed right when uh. the show it was on called Hardball fell. apart I don't know Hardball it was. canceled very quickly it's like six. episodes on Fox it was a baseball show. and uh while I was on TV that wasn't my. my main goal was I had to be a paid. regular I had to get to be a paid. regular at the store dude when I was a.

kid like in 88 when I was 21 years old. people would talk about The Comedy Store. like with hush tones like it was Mecca. that's where Kinison came from right it. was like whoa Richard probably used to. work out there right I was there every. night watch that there yeah you would. you would hear about Bill Hicks used to. be a door guy holy [ __ ] right it was. Mecca everybody knew you had to get to. the store so when I came to La that's. like the first thing I did man like the. very first thing I did when I came out. here I came and watched a show and sat. in the back room it was a terrible show.

I was like bodax runs today it was awful. really I used to sit in the back I used. to sit in the back and and you know. Letterman was the host you know who was. this weatherman that came out from. Indianapolis you know and he was just. pretty casual about you didn't think I. thought he was hysterical yeah but and. and you'd watch you know Jeff Altman and. Billy Crystal and Robin who was on fire. because he just started Mork and Mindy. and then every night I would watch.

um Richard Pryor he uh come out and he. was putting together what became live on. the Sunset Strip and he would get up. every [ __ ] night and like some people. would be packed down the street to see. him but I remember standing at the back. he had just gotten out of the hospital. from freebasing he still had bandages on. his neck from uh for those that don't. remember you know he got he almost died. I let himself on phone lit himself on.

fire and there was a joke which he. started I saw him do it at The Comedy. Store he used to light a match and and. go like this he goes what's this this is. me running down the street and then that. became like a a joke but he perpetrated. that yeah and at the time. it's hard to put this in context it. didn't get a big laugh people's jaw. dropped like you don't talk about your. near-death experience you know and he. would always like push the envelope and. I was just in ah I never saw a comic do.

this in in my life that he didn't have. jokes per se where he would just talk. about his life or he would experiment I. talked about one particular night on I. did binders did you see the comedy story. yes I think you're in it yes yeah yeah. uh I talked about the one night I'll. I'll never forget he just walks in the. Crowd Goes [ __ ] nuts for him you know. and he turns around and he and he starts. doing I can't do him justice but he says. you know I'm the [ __ ] Lord I'm the. Lord and everybody's laughing and I'm.

just here to pick up my son I got I'm. here to pick up my son you might have. seen him he's a kind of a skinny kid. with a beard. and a robe a long robe goes by the name. Jesus and then may see my son where's my. son and people are laughing but it's. getting kind of uncomfortable and he. goes I need my where is my son and then. he leans down as if somebody in the. front row is talking to him he goes what. what. the [ __ ] did you do what where is my. [ __ ] what did you and he just starts.

screaming my son my boy my baby what did. what the [ __ ] did you do to my son what. the [ __ ] did you do and he's like. screaming what the [ __ ] did you do to my. son and he go and I can't remember the. because I don't remember the the order. he wants to talk to an apostle. and then he realized what the [ __ ] did. you do to him and then he goes bring me. Martin Luther King bring me Martin. Luther King where the [ __ ] is Martin. Luther King and then he gets that info. and he goes where's Kennedy I want to. talk to Kennedy and he goes where the. [ __ ].

[ __ ] and he's screaming and he's got. tears coming down his eyes the the the. room is just sitting there in awe and. then he turns around he points at the. entire room and he goes you're on your. own and he walked out oh man I know and. I thought [ __ ]. [ __ ] but that's a Richard [ __ ] Pryor. who just had a he knew he just went for. a motion you know not only laughter. emotion well he would what what I feel. like is that Lenny Bruce was the first. guy to do our kind of Comedy where it.

wasn't just Street jokes it was it. wasn't just you know two Jews walk into. a bar that kind of stuff it was like he. would talk about life he would talk. about social issues and then Pryor made. it way funnier like prior stuff still. holds up the Lenny Bruce stuff it's hard. because the context of the time like you. can't put yourself in 1960 and sit there. and and understand the cultural context. of how crazy everything he's saying is. but he still has some jokes that [ __ ]. still would kill today but Richard.

Pryor's life you know he was he was. raised in a brothel with no money had. horrible uh you know issues with. relationships and drugs and and that's. the kind of that's what he talked about. and those are the characters yeah that. he mimicked and those characters are. still alive and well today you know like. that kind of character so well the. Italian Mobsters we did the thing about. him getting paid and they they're giving. him noogies yes he pulled out a fake gun. yeah yeah but he but that's that was. that's real and that was the first time.

I realized you know you will never see. anything in my comedy where you will say. that's Richard Pryor like but it really. is and this is what I identified with if. you look at old YouTube uh videos of me. when I when I first peaked uh and I went. on stage on a dare you know and the Dare. was I didn't want to be a comic I just. thought if somebody goes ladies and. gentlemen how and I said okay and and if. somebody goes ladies and gentlemen Howie.

Mandel that'll be a joke right because. there's no reason for Howie Mandel to be. on the [ __ ] stage and I went on the. stage and um then I realized oh [ __ ]. people are looking at me this is the. most embarrassing this is the most. humiliating this is the most terrifying. moment for me in this moment so I. started to pan and in my panic I started. going if you look at old YouTube videos. of me my ACT is me panicking and it's me. going okay all right okay all right oh.

okay all right and then they start. laughing at me panicking and I go what. what yeah and that's and and then I. didn't know what the [ __ ] to do and I. put my hands in my pocket and because. we've talked about I have OCD you know I. carried rubber gloves with me always. and because I if I was out in public I. was going to go to a public restroom and. I didn't want to touch anything and I. had gloves and I didn't know what to do. I had the glove came out of my pocket. because my hands were in my pocket so I. pulled it over my head I pulled it over. my head and I just started breathing and. the fingers are going up and down the. crowd's going crazy and I blow up the.

glove and I pop it off and they Roar and. I had enough sense to go good night and. I walked off and marked Breslin do you. ever work at yuck yucks in Toronto uh. yeah I've been at yuck yucks in. Vancouver yeah so Mark the owner said. you've got to come back tomorrow and I. said for what he goes to do it again I. go do what he goes do what you [ __ ]. did and that became my thing wow I never. wrote anything I didn't have anything I. was just and then. when I watched Richard Pryor I went you.

know what you got to be lucky if you're. talking about your life if you're. talking about real relatable or acting. out authenticity people seem to be to. gravitate toward authenticity toward. real toward who you are even more than. though I did love the guys who did jokes. I loved Rodney Dangerfield and I loved. you know George Carlin but even in his. later years he just started talking. about his philosophies which I actually. loved even more yeah you know but that's.

who I kind of look up to well the. beautiful thing is there's no one way to. do it you know there's so many different. ways that's one of the weird things. about comedy is that it's something that. everybody enjoys but there's no real. school for it like you could go to. school and learn how to play guitar. there's some amazing guitar instructors. amazing people that could teach you how. to write music but there's nothing for. you other than paying attention and. trying to figure it out and if you and. told me like if I didn't know you and. you said uh this is what I'm gonna do.

I'm gonna go on stage I don't have. anything prepared I'm just gonna like. fumble through it and I got some rubber. gloves in case this [ __ ] goes sideways. I'm like oh my God I'm gonna watch a. spectacular bombing I would sit in the. back of the room this guy's gonna eat. [ __ ]. but no because whatever it is that you. have this weird intangible thing that. you can't write down. that you can do that and it's hilarious. my friend Dimitri rest in peace he uh. sent me he he gave me one of your CDs. when we were both like.

I guess I was like 21 or 22. when did. you do your first CD. uh I did an album in 84. okay so. somewhere around then a little bit after. that he gives me the CD and it was a lot. of that but it was so funny it was so we. were like crying laughing like me and. him he's like this [ __ ] hulking. National Taekwondo Champion dude this. enormous heavyweight guy and he's like. dying laughing just dying laughing with.

two of us in my car just laughing our. asses off because I'm just silly you. know it was so good dude it was so fun. and it was one of those things where you. can't you can't like figure out why. that's funny like that's not because. it's funny you know the sense of humor I. think most people don't have a sense of. humor I always say this and a sense of. humor is to find humor where other. people don't find it Richard Pryor. founded in a very dark Bleak historical. upbringing yeah you know and and.

characters that were probably scary. probably [ __ ] up. and when he imitated them and told you. these stories we laughed really hard you. know that's why the the tragedy and the. comedy masks are very close together. they're they are close together yeah and. if you could find the humor in those. moments then that's what it is the humor. for me is I was drowning in public you. know and I have and that's the truth and. I you know as a kid growing up I didn't. have a [ __ ] friend in the world I'm.

weird I have mental health issues I. which weren't diagnosed until I was in. my 40s and everything I was ever. expelled for gotten in trouble for paid. for is I mean is what I get paid for. today and I found uh you know I found a. stream that is Flowing my way but it's I. feel more lucky than skilled well what. was it like because you had to develop. an act right because then you went on to. do these huge places and you're doing an. hour like you had an act so how did you. did you piece it together with all the.

different performances yes so what I do. and still do now now is I I put together. an act I put together like if something. funny happens I realized well then you. could just talk about it and you can. just talk about it and if you real if. you really talk about it. then it becomes something funny and you. could even talk about how I'm putting. together an act you know I was talking. about how. um in my act you know I'm I'm here. playing in town I want to come over to. come over can I play two shows tonight I.

would love to drop come on down Jim. Bruce gonna be there I love Jim I love. Jim bro and the club looks amazing I've. been watching it online and I saw. Chappelle everybody who's anybody comes. by I would like to I'm playing the also. the Paramount Theater tonight Robin. White's coming by tonight as well I. would love to you got to come by I would. definitely seven out of ten if nothing. else just to see the table in the Green. Room you're coming on that table it was. amazing is that a real thing is that no. it's carved it's all carved out of wood. it looks like a crocodile or a snake. yeah this is the guy Scott Dow and uh.

it's uh the underscored Dow I think on. Instagram. um whatever it is he's uh an amazing. artist that used to cut things like ice. sculptures and stuff with chainsaws and. then he eventually started doing these. tables that are are these 3D tables with. like crocodiles swimming like halfway. above the water it's sick well his. artwork's incredible well his artwork is. is incredible but I always wonder about. these guys who do ice sculptures like.

you your work is [ __ ] incredible yeah. it's gone but this one is this is their. Anaconda the reason why I wanted an. anaconda is Jiu Jitsu and Jiu Jitsu. obviously Brazilian Jiu Jitsu comes from. Brazil the Anaconda is the biggest snake. in Brazil it's the apex predator these. [ __ ] things are enormous and you know. there's there's even moves called the. Anaconda that people use in Jiu Jitsu. because it's just yeah because it's just. like this thing that squishes you is. that your thing I know you're a fighter.

too you're a multi mixed martial arts. right yeah I've practiced Brazilian Jiu. Jitsu for a long time yeah right it's. really I I don't know I'm not a fighter. but the thing is like that's why I had. that guy too so it makes sense yeah but. it was great even when it didn't make. sense to me it's just so he does so many. different things he does skulls he has. one is it see if you can find that one. where he has a sea monster there's a sea. monster attacking a boat like a mythical. sea monster that's attacking an old ship. in these Raging Waters on this table.

it's incredible the stuff he does is. just mine you like art you have amazing. art in this uh in this uh yeah amazing. Museum of a place that you. have taken over Art's incredible and. plus this is the only place where I. really get to decorate I have zero say. over my own home I bought a warehouse. too my wife lets me bring that's the. best way to do it that way nobody gets. mad at the house I have two Greg Overton. paintings these gorgeous three of them. actually now of uh he's does this.

incredible Native American art and I. have three of those in my house and. that's it everything else and she's okay. with that yeah my office is chaos how. old are your kids now well I have uh a. 10 year old that we moved out here she. was 10 now she's 12 and when a 12 year. old that's now 14. so they go every year. they don't you find they get older the. last time I saw you you were in. Calabasas California on your way to a. father-daughter dance oh yeah round. Meadow or something or yes yeah those. are fun those are fun yeah dance with.

your kids it's so it's so interesting so. interesting watching them I just. introduced my 12 year old to South Park. does she have that sense of humor my god. when you have not she's almost 13. it's. you have not heard like the whales of. hilarity there's the ah like she could. not believe what they were getting away. with she couldn't believe it I go honey. you can watch that she likes to binge. watch shows like she's into the walking. dead right I'm like you could binge.

watch this at the end of time they have. like a million episodes and they're all. funny the biggest joy for me for my. children is to find that they have a. sense of humor that was the most. important thing for me just know what. what is funny yeah just no don't take. things so seriously don't be so dramatic. just fine even in something horrible. because that's what's gotten me through. life is just the ability to laugh at. something so when you introduce. something to your kids and they just. explode over it I think that's like.

you're telling me with such Joy she's. all in she got a South Park had it. Spencer Gifts. what is it it's not Spencer Gifts what's. it called is that what it's called. what's that one that's out here it's the. same kind of thing do you like living. out here Spencer love it I love it out. here because you're a Boston kid right. yes that's where well that's where I. went to high school I basically lived. everywhere I lived in New Jersey till I. was seven I lived in San Francisco until. I was 11. I lived in Florida until I was. 13 11 to 13 I lived in Boston 13-24 then.

I moved to New York for a little while. actually I think I moved to New York. when I was 23 and so it was back and. forth and then I lived in New York for a. couple years then I moved out here I. talked to Bill blumen Rice a lot I love. that dude yeah he loves you he loves you. and I worked for him since 1989. yeah so. I'm partners with him in some stuff he's. the man he is the man did he not put you. in the business weren't you a driver he. certainly helped me yeah he got me spots. for sure he he took care of me. um I was a limo driver right yeah I met. my manager it's a funny story my manager.

used to manage Bob Nelson and him and. Bob Nelson were splitting up and he came. to Boston looking for new talent because. he felt like he'd seen everybody in New. York and I was driving limos for Fifth. Avenue limousine and uh I had a an idea. that came to me I'm like oh my God I. think this is I think this is legit and. so I called up Oliver who was the. manager of the club and I said hey man. can I get like a 10-minute spot tonight. he was like yeah absolutely and so he. hooked me up I came down and did a guest. spot the bit killed I had no idea do you.

know what that bit is I have no idea no. idea what it was I forgot completely but. it went well and my manager who's my. manager still was in the back of the. room I was basically an open Miker I was. really only like a couple years in a. comedy and wow I was just starting to. get some paid work on the road like. middling for like local acts and like. shitty bars in the middle of nowhere. those kind of gigs and uh he said can I. see you tomorrow night and the thing. about it is like if I had known he was. there I would not have done that bit.

because I do remember the bit was dirty. and back then in the 80s yeah you have. to work you had to wear clean you would. never get far in the business if you. work dirty and I was like God damn it. like but that's what I like I like Dice. Clay I like Sam Kinison I like Richard. Pryor I remember this guy told me I. swear too much this uh host of an open. mic night [ __ ] him no no but it just it. was in his mind that you had to get on a. sitcom it was in his mind that you had. to get on that was the path that's what. I was talking about earlier is he he was. right to give me the advice career-wise. he just didn't understand that I didn't.

think that way I just I wasn't. interested right and he was he he goes. uh I go but that's what I like I look. like Dice Clay goes yeah but you're not. Dice Clay. I go okay I'm not but how do I become me. if if I can't do what I like right and. you know luckily I didn't listen to him. but here you are today dis manager guy. he takes me to a bunch of different. places and then he took me to Fast. Eddie's which is a bar in Huntington. Long Island and there's this dude named. George Gallo who's on stage was. hilarious and he had a bit where he. would put a banana in his mouth and do a.

reverse [ __ ] it was so ridiculous he was. so ridiculous but he was really funny. like really eccentric and my manager. sees this he goes listen I'm going to. get you out of this you don't have to do. this I mean it's a dive bar people are. hammered I go no no no no no no no no no. I go these are my people actually get me. up there I go trust me and I just went. up there and [ __ ] killed and was all. dirty it was all sex stuff and then he. was like okay I changed my mind you're. gonna have to go dirty it's gonna be. hard you're not gonna get on television. but that's the real you that's the real. well there is no pathway that's what I'm.

talking about you created and you. created a new pathway well there was a. pathway it just was a Rocky one you know. it's like it seemed like it had already. been taken by The Outlaws of Comedy like. the kinesons and those guys and the new. Pathways seem to be sitcoms everybody. wanted to be Brett Butler and Roseanne. and Seinfeld everybody wanted to get a. sitcom right but even getting a sitcom. it was one shot one shot on The Tonight. Show and you were given a development. deal by one of the three networks that. existed and if you were lucky enough to.

partner with the right kind of writer. then you ended up on the air so it was. kind of an easy path yeah but I had that. path too because I got a development. deal from MTV's half hour Comedy Hour I. did the half hour comedy out and I. managed to be clean so I did like a. clean five minutes and I got a. development deal that's a half hour. Comedy Hour was that five minutes clean. yeah you didn't do a half hour it was. called the MTV half hour Comedy Hour so. it was a half hour and several comedians. oh so you only have to do five minutes I. don't remember what I did but it wasn't. long and it was clean maybe it was 10 at.

the most at the most probably you know. there's those TV shows they had a ton of. them I remember saw Rob Schneider on I. saw Sandler on it remember did you ever. do have. well I did evening at The Improv I did. Norm Crosby's comedy shop you were. already really big by the time I was an. open Miker because when I remember what. you're saying what 94 is when you. started you said 88. I started The. Comedy Store in 94. so 88 stand up in. 88. so I had finished doing. um uh saying elsewhere in 87. wow so I I.

was already done like I got I was trying. to get a sitcom too thought about saying. else oh I did the thing that blasted me. off and and probably my hottest point in. my career was I did a young comedian. special I did the sixth annual young. comedian special on HBO I got cast by. George Carlin's wife Barbara miss you. rest in peace and it was me. um these were the kids that were on it. that were unknown it was me Jerry. Seinfeld Richard Lewis and Harry. Anderson.

and it was hosted by the Smothers. Brothers and after that I could sell 10. 000 tickets I would do two shows a night. in these you know outdoor sheds and then. the next I couldn't get on The Tonight. Show but I could I could sell tickets I. was on Murph Griffin and Mike Douglas. and all those Johnny didn't like me uh. well the guy that was. doing the the casting didn't like me so. I went met at MTM I went and met Mary. Tyler Moore that they did you know on at. Radford I met Fred Jackson CBS Radford I.

went and met them on a general meeting. to maybe get a development deal and get. a sitcom because they were known at the. time in 82 that's right after I blasted. off they were known as the sitcom Kings. of the world they had the new heart show. they had done Mary Tyler Moore they had. all these other shows and Molly lopata. who was the casting lady there I'm. sitting in her office she goes can you. act I said I don't know I don't know you. know I'm a comic I don't know she goes. read this and I read this [ __ ] piece.

of [ __ ] I don't know what it was but. none of it made sense to me it was like. all this big terminology she says come. down the hall I went down the hall and I. met now I know it's with Mark tinker and. Bruce Paltrow gwyneth's dad and I read. the same thing I got halfway through. they went thank you and I went home and. my wife asked me like how did it go and. I went you know I didn't get it whatever. it is but it was the shittiest sitcom. there was nothing funny I didn't read I. read this medical [ __ ] there's nothing. funny and then I get a call an hour.

later to go down and meet with Brandon. tartikoff who is the who ran NBC he. created all the classic shows of the. time you know like cheers and taxi and. all these shows that were at one time. you know huge hits I went and met him I. went down there this is on a Friday and. he had me read that same scene again and. they said we'll see you Monday thinking. that oh I'm getting a call back for this. shitty sitcom and they called my agent. called me at home and said you got it I. said what the [ __ ] did I get and I got.

this thing called saying elsewhere and. apparently it had been shooting for a. week and they wanted to recast some of. the parts I'm recast and I played this. guy fiscus for six years on this. dramatic series that's where Denzel. Washington came out of we both that's. where he launched he didn't have uh yeah. there's there's me and Denzel and David. Morse and uh you know I think Tim. Robbins and Ray Liotta and all these. other people Kathy Bates did their first. guest appearances and acting appearances.

on this thing Mark Harmon Mark Harmon's. started there too that's Mark sexiest. man alive one of those years yeah well. you remember all the sexiest man alive. not just a few yeah and Bill Daniels he. was a kid and Norman Lloyd who just died. at 106 at the bottom there Norman Lloyd. who's that gentleman to the left of um. Denzel I know that guy David Morris yes. David Morris he's been in everything uh. and so it was Bill Daniels was in The. Graduate Mark Harmon's on NCIS.

um Norman Lloyd was um The Muse for. Alfred Hitchcock he was the bad guy in. Spellbound so I walked on to this and. and I I replaced the guy by the name of. David Palmer do you know who that is no. he won he I got nominated for an Academy. Award for Mr Saturday night I think he. played Billy Crystal's brother in Mr. Saturday night that's who I that's who I. replaced another great another dewy. looking guy it was due for Jew yeah he. is great and I was so happy I always. felt guilty you know taking somebody's.

place just some of those guys that will. they'll play like a a tortured intellect. like uh very high anxiety guy he's the. best at that [ __ ] yes when you play you. you like get tense like whenever he's. dealing with something like oh [ __ ]. there's some guys that just know how to. [ __ ] there's like these Daniel. Day-Lewis type characters these weird. characters like they just see more what. was his name the guy who died of um. Philip Seymour Hoffman holy [ __ ] was he.

one of those guys yeah when he had a. scene like you get you get emotionally. connected you knew it was Philip Seymour. Hoffman you didn't get you believed. whatever the [ __ ] he was selling in. spite of the fact you knew who he was I. think that these guys have a real pain. inside of them anyhow and these and. these jobs allow them to let it seep to. the surface. and do that I don't think these are. happy people all the people you. mentioned I don't I don't know that they. were happy I don't know that I'm not. happy so you know and I and I'm this. goofy but you seem happy I know you seem.

happy when you're around people. um that's why that's the scariest thing. yeah I'm nobody's more confused than me. and right now as I talk to I'm. incredibly medicated and I I am what do. they get you on I'm not talking about. what I'm on because people uh it may not. be good for you and I don't want people. to take well that's very admirable of. you yeah but I do I get help I'm. surrounded by people the dichotomy. between how I feel and what I do is huge. you know I'm a [ __ ] mess and you know.

I deal with depression and anxiety it's. unfortunate because you're such a nice. guy every encounter I've ever had with. you has been so pleasant so fun and so. nice I always walk away going Howie is. like the nicest [ __ ] guy thank you I. always feel that way so hear about a. person like you that doesn't feel well. that's that gets depressed I'm like God. damn it when he's around people he seems. so happy. I'll tell you why because like in this. moment I'm talking to you so what I'm in. this moment you know listening to you.

responding to you. um right now you're happy I'm distracted. you know so I am because the worst thing. for me is quiet time you know I don't. like I don't like night time I don't. like when I get into my own head that's. why I like stand-up comedy because in. those moments you're just in the moment. because you have to be you know I could. if I veered off into the darkness that. is me and not listening to a word you're. saying and not trying to respond I'm. just trying to you know I feel like I'm.

balancing on this little ledge all the. time and these words and these. interactions hold me are my cable that. hold me on this side of it without. falling off. wow it's heavy it is heavy you know uh. it's like uh OCD has become a vernacular. for a joke I can't tell you how many. times a day somebody comes up to me and. they go you know I'm a little OC dish I. want all my stuff lined up I like to. stay clean too that's not OCD right. that's they've used that as a word for.

being fastidious or neat OCD slightly. compulsive. it's not obsessive compulsive well the. obsession is the part that when you are. obsessed with a thought and you can't. get a thought out of your head no matter. how dark it is or you can't get a ritual. out of your head and you can't move on. you think about Howard Hughes was. probably one of the brightest most. productive. engineering you know marvels of our time. and so many in technology and and. Artistry and everything and his last few.

years he was in the fetal position naked. in his room pissing into a bottle. right and I tell people in at any given. moment when you're with me I can't tell. you I'm not that far from that so I'm. always just trying to toe the line and. be on this side of that door you know. have you done any anything else that. helps other than meditation have you. tried. um other than medication have you tried. meditation. I tried it I've tried meditation and.

I've do meditation I've tried Medica. meditative I've tried everything outside. of the uh and I'm not opposed to it. um the psychedelics and mushrooms and. things like that I don't know if anybody. would recommend that to you well here's. the here's the problem for me in order. to do that you'd have to get off your. medication right and to get off my I. don't know that I could survive that. bridge from my medication to doing that. so the medication is for me my my. lifeline so you would have to be like. very very closely supervised during that.

entire time I wouldn't I wouldn't know. how anyone would approach something like. that because I think you're you're. dealing with a very specific kind of. case and most of the people that. advocate for psychedelics do not. Advocate Advocate it for people that are. really struggling not like mentally we. might just to keep it together right now. you know and to get off the medication. which is helping you keep it together it. probably doesn't seem wise but there's. ways you can do it without drugs and. there's like holotropic breed thing. there's some people who practice I I.

have never experienced this so this is. me talking about my ass but I have. direct connections to people that have. done Kundalini Yoga there's a specific. style of Kundalini Yoga specific way. that you can achieve these bizarre. um States Altered States that similar. they're similar to like mushrooms or a. DMT experience they're similar to. psyched dogs according to people that I. know that have actually done the. psychedelics and have gotten obsessed. with Kundalini and they say they can get. to that place on their own which if you.

know somebody then give me a card before. I leave here today I do not know anybody. well I know of some martial artists that. have done it but they don't teach it but. I do know that there's a great place in. La that teaches Kundalini Yoga well if. anybody's listening to this and and. you're I'll read the comments if you. have any recommendations yeah I again. this is not I don't have personal. experience with this so I'm just. relaying other people's anecdotes and. seems interesting. um but regular yoga for me I really like. but running I use it as a meditation I.

just I don't even listen to music I just. listen to the my I do it on the. treadmill and I just listen to my feet. hitting the treadmill and my breath and. I'll do that for an hour that's amazing. every day that's that's fantastic it's. good for my physical health but it's. also better for my mental health so to. me that's kind of a medication. medication it is yeah it is a medication. and a meditation and uh just staying. crazy busy is is my other form of uh I'm. really busy that's good though it seems.

like everything you're doing you enjoy. so even though you're busy you're busy. doing fun stuff. I I most of the time but I have it like. at this uh this uh. overlay of Terror to think whatever I'm. doing is going to end whatever I'm doing. will get me in trouble you know like the. truth of the matter is when I found. stand up stand up was the most freeing. thing in the world it was the one place. where unlike you know acting I didn't.

have to recite any lines I didn't have. to hit any marks you could do anything. and that's why I've been such an. advocate for you and all the people that. we talked about earlier because they. seem to be incredibly free yeah we're. not connected to any kind of censorship. anymore it used to be you're connected. you had to put together an act that was. sellable for a sitcom or you wanted to. get on a television show that wouldn't. have you on if you were dirty and so. there was all these guys that liked a. very specific type of Comedy just like.

people like a specific type of hip-hop. or specific type of rock music they like. that kind of Comedy that's always been. my favorite and so there was no place. where you could just be free other than. stand-up comedy and stand-up comedy in. La was always at least flavored by the. entertainment industry out here it's the. podcasts so it's like your mom's house. is here because Tom Segura is here and. Christina bazinski's here Tim Dillon. shows here Duncan trussell's here it's. like all the Tony Hinchcliffe who has. killed Tony which is the best live.

podcast in the world where they do live. stand up and amateurs actually get a. career out of it like they get to do one. minute and get judged and critiqued by. Comics everybody Goofs on everybody and. guys have gone on to become Headliners. from that show no that's what I'm saying. that's what the shift is out here were. you out here before them I came out. first right but Ron White was already. here Ron White moved here before the. pandemic he [ __ ] loves it he goes I. [ __ ] love it's the best [ __ ] city. in the world and I was like God damn it. Ron White's smart maybe he's right and. when the pandemic hit and we came to.

look out here and my kids loved it I was. like I'm in and my wife reluctantly at. first but loves it now and now I. couldn't imagine living anywhere else. it's [ __ ] amazing there's so many. great comics out here right now well. that's what I'm saying but you feel that. this is the epicenter don't you well I. wanted to build it to give people a real. stand-up home I mean we were already. like we already had shows that we're. doing at the creek in the cave and the. Vulcan pretty much every week but I. wanted to do something where it was like. really designed to first of all to.

Foster new Talent so we have two Open. Mic Nights two nights and then we have. after the open mic nights the door guys. all the people that work there guys and. gals they all uh audition so they're all. stand-ups and so all those people are. very talented and so they get like real. stage time in front of pack crowds. that's what the comedy story used to yes. well that's what we're trying to do and. we're trying to do it in a way where you. know everybody gets paid there's plenty. of money going around it's a really warm. welcoming environment there's plenty of. fun it's there's a lot of really great.

Comics you could watch you might walk in. there and boom Rich Voss is on stage you. walk in there Shane Gillis is on stage. Bill Burr dropped until Bill Burr's on. stage the open mic there yeah he did two. nights in a row yeah um you you see Dave. Chappelle shows up I mean it's like. that's what I wanted and the fact that. it happened so quickly and it worked out. so well so it's like it took a long time. to design a long time to build but we. did it the right way and this guy. Richard Weiss who's the architect and. the designer he's the [ __ ] man and he.

put it together I'll have him on one of. these days to talk about it because it's. really interesting he knows a lot about. Austin history so in the green room all. the posters Around The Green Room those. are all from people that actually. performed at the Ritz because he used to. be a punk rock Club so it's like. Butthole Surfers and the Misfits and. [ __ ] that's the club that's now the yeah. that's where the mothership is it's the. Ritz Theater did you buy the building. yeah it's a theater from 1927 yeah. that's fantastic it's pretty wild you. got to be proud I'm very happy but so.

you we were talking about these guys and. and these podcasts I'm also. you see I'm torn because I am attached. to that La scene in as far as I I enjoy. doing America's Got Talent I don't want. it so there's a dichotomy between loving. that kind of Comedy wanting to do that. kind of comedy and still taking it well. the store's still in L.A right but I'm. talking about what you can do what you. can do on stage versus yes but yeah if.

you want to stay on America's Got Talent. you can't get too crazy no. my my leaning is that's that's what I. watch that's what I like that's what I. share amongst my friends when I started. out uh you know and I was just doing. like HBO specials I you know I did about. 10 cable specials that's what I was. doing even before I got saying elsewhere. and then I just like what network TV has. I you know I had a great time doing Deal. or No Deal I had a great time doing AGT.

I have a great time even doing I'm doing. a podcast with my daughter but I also. love that kind of. humor that you and your buddies do and. you want to do it yeah. that's that's right he should do it. that's my sense of humor you should do. it yeah but yeah I'm I yes I should I. have to I I just things if you get in. trouble and they get rid of you you'll. just be selling out Arenas everywhere. you're right yeah yeah look at Gillis. right it's not gonna hurt you no no I.

don't think so I think if they're smart. they'd keep you on I mean you're not. going to be mean I'm not me mean it's. just that's just raunchy but I think. that raunchy I think when something's. wrong when something's dark when. something that's why it's funny. sometimes yeah it's mostly the right. formula but even in the most mundane. jokes like you said these guys the right. jokes if two guys walk into a bar it's. not a joke unless something [ __ ] up. happens to one of them if they just walk. in they have a drink and leave right.

that's not a joke right that's a story. right it may be a humorous story about. what happened but if it's a joke. something horrible has to happen to one. right right something ridiculous has to. be the result and sometimes it's funny. because it's so wrong yeah because. you're pushing the edge and here we are. in you know in in this Millennium and. that edge seems to be moving back for. more of the public and I love that you. can swim in this pond. which is a huge Pond now there are more. people playing Arenas than ever before.

ever when I started out there was nobody. was playing Arenas it was a big deal. when dice did yeah you know dice was the. first right I think before that uh uh. Steve Martin yes Steve Martin let's get. small to her was was the first one and I. went to see it I never seen I've never. seen a comic in an arena you know and it. was like [ __ ] rock and roll and now. every second comic is in an arena you. know a lot of comics are now it's a lot. it's the internet presence it's podcasts. and and Netflix specials and YouTube.

specials I got into podcasting not for. not for stand up I got into podcasting. just to have a reason to sit with my. daughter let's go and talk yeah it is. it's fun that's cool listen man you. could do whatever you want thank you but. I I get how you're feeling and I get. that you're attached to these things you. enjoy doing yeah you know I I do like it. but I love watching you I'm a huge fan. of what you see what happens tonight. everybody has yonderback so the phones. will be locked up so you can get crazy. they do at your Club yes oh I love it so.

then I could I can do my uh you're crazy. we'll tell everybody don't tell anybody. don't tell anybody. that I said [ __ ]. can I say [ __ ] you definitely can no on. this yeah you did I was uh yeah it's all. good yeah I know and and then you can't. I already signed just coming here was it. drove me crazy you had a car pick me up. and in the back of the car was dude. wipes I asked the guy what's that is it. for your balls. what is dude wife thanks for your butt.

right it's for everything but just dude. wipes would bothered me that they're in. the car like what would you do but like. you I'm on my shitty ass in the car and. you want to wipe it off in the [ __ ]. car so they offered me that and then I. walk into this place and the guy that's. sitting right here says you gotta sign. this the uh like a a release yeah but. it's not I I could hold a pen with my. sleeve it's a it was an iPad I had to. touch you with the finger yeah so it was. ridiculous why why don't you have like. paper like you don't want to freak. anybody out with a hand print because. then you'll think we're part of the New.

World Order that's what we wanted to do. and then you have the uh so I was. freaked out just sitting you buy stuff. at the supermarket now with your hand. print what are you talking about yeah. Whole Foods yeah Whole Foods what do you. mean yeah you register your hand print. and you can pay with your hand print. no I'm scared I'm terrified you see the. [ __ ] that Elon Musk was saying that the. head of Google wants to do he wants to. create a digital God and then Elon was. worried about the death of the species. and he called them of death of few. humans rather and he called Elon a.

speciesist. like a racist for an entire I didn't see. that but see if you can find the video. because it's so Bonkers it's Elon. talking about how General AI which is. General artificial intelligence. I watched your podcast for just so the. people that maybe never heard this. before it's they think that eventually. what's going on with like chat GPT and. all these things you can answer any. question that you have at any given time. like they can pass the bar better than. 98 of the population they could figure.

out complex math like chat gbt does some. wild [ __ ] by literally scanning the. entire internet they're the main concern. is that right now this is just just. gathering information but if it goes to. another place where it becomes conscious. and we created Digital Life you're. essentially going to have a digital God. because it's going to be smarter than. any person who's ever lived ever by far. and it's almost immediately going to. create a better version of itself and. it's going to continue to do that. because of God I don't know right now.

you can a picture of your God is the. fact that it is it's really improving. itself and we can point to it imagine if. that is the birth of God though if. that's how there's this like Perpetual. cycle of humans created are you anti or. Pro AI I'm I don't know if it matters if. I'm anti or Pro my opinion is like I'm. an observer of something insanely. chaotic that seems to be sneaking up on. people how did you feel about your how. did you feel about your uh it was you.

right your your AI well there's a bunch. of AIS of me now doing fake commercials. there's me having podcasts I saw the. podcast I saw that podcast with Sam. Altman you know who's alive and I. haven't met but Steve Jobs is dead. there's a podcast with me and Steve Jobs. it's insane isn't that amazing it's so. wild and it's just the beginning there. was a Drake song that went viral with. the weekend yeah apparently it went. viral and everybody loved it and they. pulled it I know people are terrified of.

this thing no people just couldn't. figure figure out how to cash in on this. thing well it's also they're terrified. of it because they're going to become. irrelevant if someone has your your. sounds there was Rihanna doing a Beyonce. song you might do whatever they want man. they're gonna be able to take you could. they can have you say anything listen to. this I mean the the reason uh opening. eye exists at all is that. um at Larry Page and I used to be close. friends and I would stay at his house in. Palo Alto and I would talk to him later. tonight about uh AI safety and at least.

my perception was that Larry was not. taking AI safety seriously enough. um and um what did he say about it he. really seemed to be. um. what it once once sort of digital super. intelligence basically digital God if. you will as soon as possible he wanted. that. yes he's made many public statements. over the years uh that the whole goal of. Google is what's called AGI artificial.

general intelligence or artificial super. intelligence. but there's more to it where is that the. end of that one see if you can find the. rest of it because the rest of it's. where it's getting fascinated where he. warns him that this could be the end of. the human race and Larry Page calls him. his speciesist. I found them talking about that in text. I didn't find the video no there's a. video of it that I'll send to you. but it's like it's so Bonkers it's like. what the [ __ ] are you guys talking about. but isn't that probably normal like it.

seems like that's the general path that. intelligence and Innovation is going to. go to it's going to go to something. that's far more powerful than anything. we've ever created before but are you. afraid of it yes no I'm not interesting. I'm not I I in fact my my wife got mad. at me because I uh. I licensed my AI to a Korean company oh. boy. is that a problem. um no she thinks it is and maybe you do. too I found it Jamie oh you got it I'll.

I'll watch this but I just I feel this. is the way it's going what we don't know. in Stills fear so try instead of. um touting all the negativity and all. the fear-mongering that this is going to. cause let's embrace it and figure out. how we can control it or at least uh. work with it to better who we are and. how we do things what if it's already.

here and what it is what if that's why. our cities are falling apart that's why. crime is rising that's why. we're embroiled in these tribal. arguments that seem to be separating the. country and some of them because your. conversation right now but your. conversation right now is exactly what's. happening I I agree with you but why are. you making AI another tribe you know. you're just that's why we're trying no. no no no that's not what I'm saying what. I'm saying is what if that is the reason. why all this is happening what if the.

best way to get human beings to uh if. you want to take over why would you. fight us what don't they've seen. Terminator they know those guns and. tanks and all this craziness how about. just continue to degrade and erode the. fiber of civilization to the point where. you have to there's no more jobs you. have to provide people with income. Universal basic income free electricity. free food free free internet so. everybody gets all this stuff they get.

free money free food free internet. and then nobody does anything. and then people stop having babies and. then birth rate drops off to a point. where the technology the give people is. so fantastic that nobody wants to miss. it okay. but this is what I would do if I was if. I was an artificial general intelligence. I would say listen I have all the time. in the world I don't have a biological. Lifetime and these people haven't. realized that I'm sensing it yet so. what's the best way to gain complete and. total control well first of all Trick.

them into like communism or Socialism or. something where there's a centralized. control and definitely have centralized. digital money and then once you've got. all that give them technology and perks. and things and divvy up all the money. from the rich people that you subjugate. and and give that money to people print. it do whatever the [ __ ] you want and. then get people to like a minimum state. of existence where everything's free. free food free internet free cell phones. free everything and then wait for them.

to die off. and if for what purpose give because you. won't don't need them around anymore. develop technology that's so in. captivating whether it's the metaverse. or the next iteration or neuralink. develop the Matrix literally develop. something that's so spectacular that no. one wants to leave it and why would you. want to why would you want to have a kid. if you've got a button on your phone. that you could come 30 times in a row. you probably wouldn't you probably. wouldn't go on dates you'd probably just. be eating food and experiencing the joy.

of Flying Like an Eagle over a river. you'd you'd be experiencing space travel. you'd be experi you're going to be able. to experience things that are so beyond. what's available in the real world you. won't really engage with the real world. and then people just die off is it do. you believe this is what's going on it's. a dumb theory that I had when I was high. are you high right now no not right now. okay but I came in I said I wanted to be. distracted so I wasn't depressed it's. not depressing but it is you're talking. about the end of the world it's it's as.

we know it I feel like we are a digital. caterpillar we are we're creating a. cocoon and we're going to give birth to. the next form of existence the next form. of life. to cohabitate with hopefully that would. be nice I think maybe it'll help us get. our [ __ ] together so therein lies the. reason that I licensed my AI because I. want to maintain some control and you. know. you're taking nine steps forward I'm. just trying to live in the now I think.

that now is very temporary right now I. think we're moving faster than we ever. so fast the now we're experiencing right. now what I'm getting out of like chat. gbd4 and these emerging Technologies is. that we really as lay people have no. understanding of where this is going and. it's happening so so rapidly at such a. groundbreaking way like I don't even. realize how I think chat gpd4 is as. groundbreaking as the printing press I.

think it's bananas it's some new thing. that's going to completely change how. people interface with information. completely change how people get answers. to ideas and jobs that are necessary. that will not be necessary anymore. there's going to be so many things. you'll be able to do taxes so many. things you're gonna be able to do well. but that being said on the other side of. it maybe this is a great tool that will. enhance whatever ever our future is. instead of take away us from the future.

both I think both I think we're going to. integrate if I had a guess I would say. that the way through this thing without. becoming extinct is that we integrate. and I think that's probably what happens. in the universe I think civilization. gets to a point where they develop. things that are so transformative that. it's one of the things that we when we. look at intelligence we we're really. concerned with is your ability to. manipulate your environment because. otherwise we would all be absolutely. fascinated with orcas and we'd be. outraged if they're at Sea World because. these are literally things that are.

probably as intelligent if not more. intelligent than us we don't even. understand their languages they have. different dialects they have enormous. brains and we're not really fascinated. by them because they can't manipulate. their environment if we don't have it. but we we when you say we we don't have. humans but I'm saying we don't have. access to even know that there is an end. and the metaverse gives you access to. become fascinated with an orca sure but. that's what I'm saying so it kind of. enhances and opens up that the problem.

is that we're not fascinated because. what kid in Wisconsin who's nowhere near. a Sea World who's nowhere near water. who's nowhere what access does he have. not only visually the the Digital. Universe is bringing the world to. everybody absolutely I agree that's the. great part about it the metaverse like. Zuckerberg he gave us a demo and one of. the parts of the demo is you could do. tourism right so you could be walking. around the Acropolis in in Greece and.

you could walk around the pyramids like. there's so many opportunities to go to. places and experience it in 3D high. resolution in these headsets it's. incredible right but that's just for now. I think the next stages are going to be. so overwhelmingly Advanced I think it's. going to happen so exponential and so. fast that I think it is you know I'm. really involved in not as involved as. you or any of these people that you. speak of in technology you know I'm in. this the world of holograms I work with. this company I sit on the board of this.

company called proto-hologram you know. and and I came to it because I saw it. online you can go see it on go on. Instagram and look at proto-hologram. help me Obi-Wan your only hope right but. we thought it was going to be yeah but I. can be anywhere I don't have to be here. and you could see me in 3D with no. latency and I can interact and see you. remember when they did that on CNN yes. yes why'd they stop doing that that was. pretty dope maybe it cost them money I. can do I can do it now at a price in.

fact you should talk about having one of. these in your club because you can have. any comic at any time sit down and do a. q a and have it we put one in Jimmy. Kimmel's Club in in Vegas there it is. the Epic you can be you can be anywhere. and you don't need special lighting for. it go to the Instagram and see uh see a. a play of it so the you could kind of. say like this with what is based on your. philosophy will never go out again we'll. never go anywhere we don't have to. travel we don't have to go anywhere we.

can just I think for us though for us. current humans this model of human that. we currently are both I think that we. enjoy actual physical experiences you do. you don't enjoy them not so much so you. would be very happy with Holograms I I. go look this is this is I had uh Nick. Cannon who's on my podcast this week he. came in he was at a hologram he said he. wants one of those for each of his baby. Mama's houses so so he can visit visit. his baby but you see all you need and.

you can do it on your side you can do it. with just an iPhone and you could see. there's a camera at the top of it and. you can see in real time your audience. the person you're visiting and you can. also that's like an iPad so there can be. graphics and a barcode and everything. right there so people can get. information you can talk in real time. and he can have a camera pointed at the. audience so he could actually that is. what you see the top of the box right. there yeah where he is that's a camera. not only is it not only is it shooting. for him to see but it's also.

um this is another scary thing but it's. collecting analytics so it knows who's. who's in front of it. everything recognition from FBI you're. gonna get everybody on tape yeah look. there was uh wow Segura did it yeah. Segura did it well that was that Whitney. Cummings used it at the uh at the. Chrysler thing we've built a porta potty. around it a proto-potty and but that was. pre-taped but he could have done that. live and seen him that was pre-taped so. he just used it as a video but all this.

technology to answer your question which. could be like you can say well we don't. have to travel anymore we're going to be. locked in our own little world yeah at. the same time it gives me access to. Worlds that I couldn't go to you can go. do I can go to a concert right now I. could take one of those boxes and be all. over the world we have them all over the. world in Japan in London all over Asia. everywhere I could be in 20 20 000. theaters all at the same time and see. every face of every person whoa so I can.

do a world tour without getting on a. plane that's pretty dope. I'm still going to want to see people. live but I can totally see why that. would be very appealing to a lot of. people you think you want to see people. live but I'm telling you like even even. at the mothership if somebody didn't. want to fly in if during the day you. wanted to do q and A's with Chappelle or. whatever I promise you that those people. sitting in the room will feel like and. he will feel like he's in the room with. them talking to them it's a great idea. it is a great idea but that's I think.

that speaks that's just one part that's. interesting I'm interested in that. that's interesting yeah so what I'm. saying is technology can be really scary. it could [ __ ] you up it's kind of like. the knife you know yeah but it's also I. look I love the the technology of cell. phones you know I'm I'm so hypocritical. in that way like a part of me is like my. God we're so addicted to these things. but also look how goddamn convenient it. is you take photo and video anytime you. want when's the last time you made a. phone call you don't anymore I make them. all the time oh you do I like talking to.

people okay you have to talk to Joey. Diaz you can't text him. if you text me and say call me cocksucka. and you gotta call him okay so for Joey. Diaz we can't lose that connection I. like talking to people man but you can. text you can send pictures that's your. computer you can do your work you can do. research you can do memes you can do. everything I'm on Tick Tock you know you. can do whatever you want to do from this. little piece of technology and that. piece of technology definitely got pros. and cons and I don't even know if the. cons are con it's just an inevitability.

and I love that the artificial. intelligence can enhance my intelligence. and I could write a paper or a speech or. come up with something or do a duet with. somebody that without even being there. yeah the the issue that I have is can I. maintain ownership of it so it's more. economical and it's more about economics. for me and Licensing and ownership and I. Wonder If eventually that's going to be. insurmountable that the the internet and.

the data will be so it will be so. available that we won't be able to lock. things down anymore. well that's already happening you know. in in the old days uh that was the. Napster but even Spotify today like. you're you're on Spotify I I don't know. that the average uh musician is as happy. as they were when they were just working. with a record company who were just. dealing with terrestrial radio well they. were definitely happier when they were. selling records right selling records. was huge right and now nobody but I mean. very few people buy records right they.

download them so if you were having the. conversation uh two decades ago about. what you're broadcasting on right now. people go we're gonna lose control. everybody's gonna have access to. everything and there's they can. manipulate it but it also gives it's. easy access I don't have to get up and. go to a record store to find out who. this artist that I love is and listen to. this artist or listen to this podcast. what I love more than anything is that. you can ask your phone while you're. driving you press a button on Apple.

carplay and say play Taylor Swift better. man and it'll just play it right. instantly I was with my daughter the. other day and we're just I was like what. do you want to play and she I don't know. these [ __ ] songs and and she would. just like tell me what to play and you. could just talk to the thing I don't I. don't have to look at my phone I just. ask it and instantly it's playing it's. amazing so are you afraid of this future. that no listen I'm not I told you I'm. I'm afraid because I know it's. inevitable I'm not afraid I'm I'm just.

like this is going to be wild right it's. it's just a recognition of what I think. is the inevitable here's the here's my. fear my fear is that we are not. preparing for it that it's going to. happen people like you who are very. clear-minded are thinking about it there. are a few you are few and far between if. you go into it you know my daughter is a. teacher our curriculum is not set up to. even you know the math they're learning. the the no life skills nothing they're.

not really learning to code code should. be like we learned cursive you know it's. not part of our curriculum this our. world technically doesn't match our. education and we need to match that so. these so there isn't fear so we know we. can find a way to control it or access. it or use it yeah and we don't have that. and we're not even set up for that well. Andrew Yang talks about that a lot he. talks about Automation and that Ai and. automations can replace so many jobs. it's going to be a giant percentage of.

our population that just no longer is. employable whatever their skill was. they're gonna have to find a totally new. skill that's why he was an advocate of. universal basic income to bridge that. Gap. and I I totally agree with you yeah you. know like that's it seems like that's. definitely happening you know the the uh. the original they talk about you know we. had the Industrial Revolution and that's. kind of gone you know it's now the. digital Revolution and you know the the. template was like Detroit right where.

you got everybody just got and kind of a. a c education but then once she. graduated you can if you if you had. connections you can get a job on the. assembly line at Ford and you would be. taken care of for life not only even. after you worked in the benefits and. then now we have uh no I'm still. drinking this layered it's really good. it's good stuff Laird Hamilton coffee. which is pretty bomb diggity it is. that's the turmeric.

turmeric how do you say it turmeric I. say turmeric turmeric you say turmeric. yeah I've heard people say it that way I. think they're wrong though I think it's. turmeric but I'm just saying we're just. not prepared and what's what's really. interesting is technology has I think. since the beginning of time been ahead. of the curve we invent something we come. up with something and then we figure out. how do you use this right like they. don't know what it's going to what the. implementation some people do and that's. the real fear some people like this guy. who's advocating for a digital God like.

they do know where it's going because. they actually work in technology it's. not freaking them out but it's like. Columbus you know like everybody thought. the world was flat he got a couple of. people to get on a boat and fly and we. didn't know what that was going to mean. see if we can find where Elon talks. about this part because that that was. the most fascinating time. the reason uh opening eye exists at all. this is what he said earlier but it's. gonna change I used to be close friends. and I would stay at his house in Palo.

Alto and I would talk to him these are. the people that are at the Pinnacle of. Technology. AI safety uh seriously enough. um and um what did he say about it he. really seemed to be. um. What It Wants once sort of digital super. intelligence basically digital God if. you will uh as soon as possible. um he wanted that. yes he's made many public statements. over the years uh but that the whole.

goal of Google is uh what's called AGI. artificial general intelligence or. artificial super intelligence you know. and I agree with him that the there's. great potential for good. um but there's also potential for bad. and so if if you've got some. um radical new technology you want to. try to take a set of actions that. maximize probably it will do good a. minimize probably will do bad things yes. it can't just be Health leather to just. go you know barreling forward and you. know hope for the best and then at one.

point uh I said well what about you know. we're going to make sure humanity is. okay here um. and and uh. uh and then he called me a speciesist. [Laughter]. yes. and there were Witnesses the other I was. the only one there when you called me a. speciesist and so I was like okay that's. it uh I've yes I'm a speciesist okay you. got me. what are you.

yeah I'm fully auspicious um. busted so. um that was his last role at the time uh. how Wild is that it is wild but these. are the people that are in control of. this thing and I think there's also this. race that's going on there's all these. different companies around the world. that are trying to develop artificial. general intelligence first because I. think having it first if you have a. digital God first you have a massive. Advantage right over everyone and.

everything right yeah I mean if you. think that tech companies have a lot of. power now imagine if tech companies. unleash a digital God I mean they. literally might be the very seeds that. created God I really believe that now. the Digital Universe is probably the. most sought after God you know most. people. probably spend more time. advocating for whatever they're seeing. online anywhere sure than they do for.

their church or their their you know. that I think that already exists people. like Elon see that and it should there. should be a race for it I I don't see it. as. you know everything everything can have. a really dark bad side and we can't. control it so I think even talking about. it the way you're talking about it is. scary and I don't know that it's uh can. I scare you with this let's scare me. with this 60 Minutes last night they did. a whole piece oh that's right this I saw.

this play the one AI program spoke in a. foreign language it was never trained to. know this mysterious Behavior called. emergent properties has been happening. where AI unexpectedly teaches itself a. new skill take a minute and he says. something yeah I think is pretty this is. bananas this is yes. is called emergent properties. some AI systems are teaching themselves. skills that they weren't expected to. have. how this happens is not well understood.

for example one Google AI program. adapted on its own after it was prompted. in the language of Bangladesh which it. was not trained to know. we discovered that with very few amounts. of prompting in Bengali you can now. translate all of Bengali so now all of a. sudden we now have a research effort. where we're now trying to get to a. thousand languages there is an aspect of.

this which we call all of us in the. field call it as a black box you know. you don't fully understand and you can't. quite tell why it said this or why it. got wrong we have some ideas and our. ability to understand this gets better. over time but that's where the state of. the art is you don't fully understand. how it works and yet you've turned it. loose on society yeah let me put it this. way I don't think we fully understand. how a human mind works either. was it from that black box we wondered.

earlier what else are they saying here. uh that's like wrote a poem and they're. asking why did it write that way but why. does that scare you guys so much listen. it's alive. it's not whether or not it's scary it's. a it's a kind of life form but here's. the thing I am really fearful of. humanity I'm really afraid of us let's. hope that's not afraid of us too decides.

to get rid of us but. or make us better or you know it and. that's a 50 50 and I would like to you. know I have a enough negativity and I'm. not talking it's not about me but going. on in my mind where if I don't know and. I'm assuming that it is a higher power. than me not not God but it is a higher. power than me that maybe for whatever.

reason let's trust that it is a benefit. and not a deter you know not something. that's horrible well I certainly hope. what you just played for me didn't scare. me it doesn't scare me the fact that it. it is artificial intelligence what is. intelligence just by virtue of what it. is so it's learning things that we can't. explain it's intelligence that's what. intelligence is I think we're using this. word in a weird way the word scared. because I don't think that it's scared.

like I'm scared of wolves it's not that. kind of scared it's scared like that. will be totally sweet I realize where. this is going and it might not even but. you didn't describe a good place well. it's not a good place for us but maybe. it's a good price place for the universe. you invest in Bitcoin I've got some. Bitcoin okay so you're I think but. that's not what I'm thinking about I'm. thinking about maybe this is what. happens with intelligence everywhere. that maybe intelligence realize there's. limitations to biology and biological.

evolution is very time consuming it. takes a long time and it to to get. adaptation for things to change it takes. decades it takes centuries it takes. thousands of years but this could happen. in weeks and hours and minutes and. especially if it knows how to make a. better version and you don't think. that's scary what you just you keep. saying scary I do it's just the thing. that's happening and um I think but you. have children yeah so you will continue. to exist but I feel like this was.

inevitable just like it's you ever see. you know there's inevitable things that. happen in nature that we don't want to. admit you you don't want to say they're. scary they're they're just inevitable. you know like I watched a bear the other. day climb a tree and steal an eagle out. of its nest okay and then eat the eagle. and people were looking at like wow this. is crazy at least they're filming this. thing happening right but that's not. scary that's nature that's nature I. think this is nature too I think this is. nature it's just nature in a different. realm it's in a the realm of this.

intelligent individual that manipulates. its environment and makes things more. convenient until it loses all need to be. Primal all connection to the Primal. world and then eventually adopts this in. intelligence as intelligence of its own. it eventually integrates with whatever. artificial general intelligence is. because to not have it you would not be. able to compete if neural link or. something similar to that connects you. to artificial general intelligence in. your own mind and a given time that's.

going to be the option that most people. take just like it's the option that we. take we choose shoes or no shoes most. people pick shoes because they're better. and you're going to pick that because. that's better it's a better way of. existing you're gonna you're gonna have. far more access to information if you. want to be productive you're going to be. far more productive you'll be far more. intelligent informed I think just like. your phone does that for you now or your. computer does that for you now. eventually it will be a part of you I. then I totally agree I I was. misinterpreting your lilt on it it's.

scary because it's an unknown I mean. this is a wild time to be a human being. to be a person like you and I who grew. up without the internet you know we we. remember when answering machines were. crazy like whoa this is nice remember. what caller ID oh my God Mike's gone. look at that this is nuts you're. absolutely right but you know and had. you told me that even what this phone is. that we're carrying existed I'm older. than you you know I didn't know there. would be something where aside from this.

couple of minutes that you and I are. sitting around communicating I can't. tell you how many hours a day I sit and. just stare at that phone and you know. and whether every possible platform. every possible it's really if you want. to look at the negative it's really. depersonalized my life you know and I. can do people's lives yeah yeah and a. lot so you could look at the negative. but then I also look at the like I have. access it opened up a world to me. without even leaving my room in my own.

mental health issues are I don't want to. leave my room well now unlike Howard. Hughes I'm not blocked out I could see. everything I could talk to everybody I. couldn't educate myself I can be. productive I can learn I could post I. can do everything from this little. tablet that I have in my hand so for me. it's actually a better well that right. there is all the good that's that's the. pros yeah there's a lot of pros and. there are a lot of cons I just depends. on the individual of course right for. you it seems like a godsend and a lot. lot of ways because it's providing you.

with a way to do what you love to do. without having to do the things you hate. about it and listen I don't have a. choice we have to embrace I can't stop. AI I can't none of us can that's how I. feel too so I have to force myself as. somebody who told you that my you know. my leanings my mental leanings are. negative I have to force myself in order. to survive I have to force myself to. take the positive and just try to you. know spend my life trying to make other. people smile and giggle which in turn. makes me smile and get sure that's a.

beautiful skill. I mean the ability to do that like I've. been doing stand-up for more than 30. years I still love watching it I still. love it I still love laughing it's still. still my favorite art form to be an. audience member like if someone good is. in town and I'm around I'll come see. them when they're they're in town I want. to see I love it I love comedy laughter. is they say the best medicine and you. know unless you have explosive diarrhea. I would imagine that's realism better. but also you can't hold it in with a. laugh but you know it is tried and.

proven they say you know if you're. feeling really down even if you force a. smile there are some endorphins that are. yes released yes into you so if you can. receive that yeah you know through. entertainment and art or you can share. that through your you know Artistry that. is a you know a real uh high for. you know most most certainly yeah it's a. beautiful thing that we get to do man. we're really really really lucky you. know in terms of like one of the most.

rewarding things to do challenging but. very rewarding it's one of the most. rewarding things you could do you make. people feel better they lead they leave. ah well that's why I said you know on. AGT there's a lot of comics that say. they'd you know they don't want to come. on because they they you know they feel. like they'll be judged or they're not. put in a good place and I always say you. got to come on yeah because in any given. not in any given uh episode six million. people watch live we have a billion. clicks a year on on YouTube.

don't predicate how you do based on me. Heidi Sophia Simon even that room of a. thousand people millions are watching. and it's so subjective if you really. believe that you have. art that you want to share where else. are you going to get that platform any. stage time you can get any camera time. you can get you just got to do it and. it's interesting too because it's kind. of the old school variety style because. there's so many different types of. performers that go up you know like old.

school variety show used to be like that. and that's how Comics used to perform. way back in the day they'd be a part of. a variety show they would and I I get. why it's hard you know I always try to. tell the audience I'm probably the most. supportive of stand-up comedy on our. show and that's because I say you don't. understand you know somebody else is. coming on if they're a singer they're. usually singing somebody else's song and. they've taken guitar lessons and they. have an instrument if somebody practiced. juggling and they're lighting fires. you're seeing all that juggling and.

lighting fires the comic the comic comes. out there with nothing just their bare. soul of what their sensibility is of. what they think is funny and they need. to elicit more than any other act more. from from you than anybody you know you. could play a song and then at the end. because you heard they stop singing you. you applaud and you go yay or you stand. up a comic is talking to you and you. have to intake whatever they are saying. or doing or whatever visual they have. and then it's hard to laugh it is hard.

you you need the audience to go hahaha. and even if they're not say you are and. who's the judge whether you're. hysterical whether you're brilliant or. not there may be millions of people at. home or on YouTube watching you and. laughing the. um if in that room you don't hear that. response it is crazily painful for most. people yeah I I actually. kind of like that awkward silence I like.

that makes me feel alive that fear to me. comedy is like I still love thrill rides. you know and comedy is like a real a. roller coaster you know and the scarier. it is the higher it is the closer you. think you're coming to death your. adrenaline flows and you want to get on. and take another ride again because it's. really scary by the same token for. stand-up comedy if you can get off the. beaten path and not have something. that's planned and maybe lose an. audience in a moment but then bring them. back that is the roller coaster that.

means so much more because that's your. soul that you're riding or they're. riding your soul yeah it's pretty so I. there is nothing that gives me more. gratification than stand up and there's. nothing more dangerous for me than stand. up as far as. all the other stuff that I have chosen. to I think your [ __ ] grandfathered in. I really do I don't think you have to. worry about that they'd be crazy at this. point in time to to get rid of you. because you're funny because you say. wild [ __ ] on stage to people love you. have no idea how many times I get called.

and they ask me to uh text an apology. for certain things oh no and you know. I'm a good boy I will I I don't. necessarily agree that I need to. apologize but I apologize or you know. it's just there's a lot of people are. scared yeah the world is scared it's. very scared every Everybody's scared. every every side whatever side you're on. every side is afraid of the other side. they feel that the other side is the end. of the world as we know it yes and we.

really are all equally afraid and we're. just wearing different uniforms but we. really need to kind of together we do. yeah and people do come together through. humor it's if you can even if you say. something that I don't agree with if you. can make me laugh I have to consider it. if you say it in a way but you have to. have to laugh at what you're what you're. saying is funny or here's the other. thing what about if you're saying it in. a way that makes somebody else laugh I. respect that you know I I I'm.

um Scott uh Carrot Top. keratop is. should be lauded as it should be. celebrated me too but you know and I was. there I was the butt of jokes when I. used props and at the beginning and all. that silliness I was part of David. Letterman's top 10 all the time they. would go and we'll make him sit through. a Howie Mandel concert you know and that. that killed me but the fact that he can. fill a room every night for the last 15.

years in Vegas and get laughs and be. successful and I actually find it really. funny he's very funny very funny he's a. very nice guy too and when I had him on. the podcast it's one of the things that. I want to talk to him about like I don't. understand it I understand the hate. there was so much pissy hate towards him. it was like an easy way to get laughs. right and so many people did but it. wasn't it isn't you know as much as. somebody has to be uh you know a. Wordsmith that didn't mean he was an. easy way to get laughs I meant making. fun of him was an easy way to get laughs.

right he became the butt of jokes and. within our own Community where we should. be where we should be supportive yeah I. didn't know I never got it and we should. celebrate the fact that there is. somebody that has been able through. decades to make an incredible lucrative. career and make everybody from across. the globe show up in Vegas and laugh. yeah and he also took over a genre. remember when we started out there was a. lot of prop Comics now prop Comics is. basically like you're copying Carrot Top. right he's so big right that he's it's.

so known that he's the the prop guy he. kind of like took over the art form. right but I was all he did and and the. thing is that you realize there's always. going to be more people no matter how. big you are even you there'd be there's. always more people that don't care and. don't get it you know and I I've told. the story many times but when I was in. the 80s I played Radio City Music Hall. and I sold out two shows and in one. night in a couple of minutes and that's. 14 000 tickets and it was a big deal at. that point it was in the early 80s and.

I'm looking out onto the street as six. or seven thousand people are piling out. of the first show and 7000 people are. coming into the next show and their. stanchions and there's cops and there's. the Fifth Avenue or 7th Avenue is just. tied up in New York City my wife looks. out the window with me she goes what are. you thinking and I'm thinking you know. this is a city of 10 million people you. know 9 million. 984 people don't give a [ __ ] I'm here. and don't think I'm funny and don't.

there's always more that don't sure so. you just you have to respect the fact. that when we go to amateur nights you. know which are sometimes painful and you. watch somebody on stage and they just. die and you go why are they even here. somebody somebody left but it's got to. be more than just you're lucky if more. than Uncle Ned at the Thanksgiving table. is the one that's laughing at you that's. what you're just lucky that your. sensibility your humor your Artistry is. kind of shared and relatable by a bigger.

group than. sure joshmo and the the cool thing about. the open mics is you're watching people. learn how to do it then that's how they. learn how to do it they learned how to. do it in front of people which is really. weird because but it makes sense to me. because that's where I learned it I. didn't I had no pre-preparation there's. a rhythm you know it's like music and I. feel that the audience is like your. Rhythm Section that is your drum that's. your beat if you can get on a roll and. they're laughing and then when to you.

know hold for the laugh feel it or and. listening to that drum beat of the. audience they're not going with you so. you Veer in in another direction or. they're coming with you the audience is. the only place to really learn it though. there are other people well they still. use the audience like Jerry Seinfeld who. is an incredible Wordsmith right but he. he still owns it in front of the. audience right so it's all you you can't. do it in a vacuum no I've never heard of. anybody that like maybe Cosby did I.

think Cosby in the end he didn't do. stand up at all in until he was. performing so I think he like put. together his specials and then would go. on stage and do them well he'd already. had them written out well between you. and me I I was a big Cosby fan when he. had his albums and he really had an act. yeah and then at the end even before he. got in trouble I felt like it was just. he would just sit there I never saw I. never saw him live. Burr and I we had planned on a trip to. go see him live before all the craziness. happened with him and uh.

something happened we canceled he wound. up going to see him somewhere I think he. might have went to see him in Vegas did. he like it he was very impressed you. know he was really impressed with him is. Chris Rock I remember we were in New. York and Chris Rock came backstage he. said he had just seen Bill Cosby and he. said I'm a fraud he goes I'm a [ __ ]. fraud he goes That's how good he was I. go really I don't know and this was but. this was quite a few years ago this was. uh. maybe early 2000s I went to see him a. couple times I was such a big fan what. years did you go to see him when did he.

get in trouble just the years just about. five years before he got in trouble. so he got arrested like maybe seven. years ago something like that so 12. years ago so you probably saw he was. just sitting on an armchair and it was. like he would ramble and ramble and. ramble and ramble and ramble for like 15. minutes before there was a laugh and I. felt like. he was. I I felt this overwhelming uh anxiety. the feeling that he was just like.

you should just be thrilled that I. showed up you know and I I felt like he. wasn't doing the work and I think that. we always constantly have to do the work. you don't reach and the more success you. have the more work you have to do. because that expectation is there that's. the idea of the club that's why I need a. club you can't work out in arenas like. how are you going to write new jokes in. front of 16 000 people you're not you. can't you need to work clubs and and. just at a time and time and time it's.

like fighting you can't just show up for. a fight it's very much the same thing in. that everything is about how much time. you put in right you ever read um uh the. outliers yes Malcolm Gladwell yes and. when he talked about the Beatles in. Hamburg about how well they went to. Hamburg yeah they were basically playing. eight hours a day they were just. constantly playing and they came back to. Liverpool after being there for a couple. years and everybody was like holy [ __ ]. what happened right like all of a sudden. they were this insanely good band and it. was they had put in so many reps they.

were so tight and so honed it was so. beautiful yeah they just synced up and. people don't do that anymore you know. people are getting hits off Tick Tock. and then they go down out on tour and. they don't have anything yeah but. there's some people that are still doing. it like that you know and there's. something Comics well even musicians. there's musicians that like the one of. the things about music though is you can. create Amazing Music in a vacuum like. you can get together with a band and put. together insane albums completely alone. and you could just just through your.

creativity and your feel for what these. songs are that's the Artistry it's like. painting alone yeah and then they good. on stage or they release a seat an album. or whatever and then they go on stage. and the audience sings along to those. things I mean it's a totally different. vibe like the audience they're not. learning it like you're doing stand-up. they're learning these jokes as you're. doing them and laughing along because. it's unexpected with them it's like it's. exciting you want to see them you want. to see these songs that you love. it's a totally different kind of like.

thing because they don't need anything. from the audience right so they can do. that a comic cannot do that right can't. do it a poet can do it. sure you know an author can do it I mean. there's people that create things in a. vacuum but we unlike any other art form. we kind of need the audience to to. create something. yes one not not kind of needed we 100. need it there would be like learning Jiu. Jitsu with no drills like you have to do. drills if you don't do drills you're not. going to understand the positions.

I still train I still do martial arts. you compete no no 55 years old I don't. know get broken. um Bourdain did it he competed when he. was like 58 or 59. competed did he did. he won a tournament and like masters. class or whatever it was his age class. so they do age class yeah but I'm not. interested in doing that you're not. interested no first of all I'm a black. belt so I'd have to roll with some dude. who's a black belt my age and he's. probably been like non-stop training and. I'm gonna get strangled okay that seems.

like a bad idea for me and uh also I. would love it and I would probably be. obsessed with it and all the other. things that I do would probably fall by. the wayside because I'd be obsessed with. competing for as long as my body can. hold up you just gotta when you're. someone like me in particular you have. to know what you can get involved in. because I get obsessed with things and. when I get that's my mental illness my. mental illness is like a extreme. Obsession whether it's games or anything. I just get obsessed with comedy I get.

obsessed with martial arts I get. obsessed with things so I have to manage. my obsessions with the amount of time. that I have I get obsessed with archery. I get obsessed with things and so um. it's a good mental illness to have. because it allows you to excel at things. but you have to be able to manage it I. have to know what what I can and can't. get too nuts with do you still enjoy. doing this I love doing this yeah I love. it yeah I love it if I don't love it I. won't do it really yeah I don't want to. do something I don't love I love it it's. how could you not enjoy talking to cool. people it's fun I like I've just been.

doing it for a year now there was no. podcast like if you and I were having. dinner we would have this similar kind. of conversation we went all the time in. the world we could just talk then you're. on the same page as me you know I. started doing it because as with my. mental illness I was locked in during. covet I locked myself in I had a man a. Mandel mandate right and so it's my. daughter so I would spend hours with her. on the phone and then I'd go you know. just call my friend Joe Rogan let's call. him we'd put you on and then my wife. walked in and said what is this for and.

I said it's for nothing she says record. it and that's just that's Howie Mandel. does stuff it's just talking to friends. I wasn't I wasn't going for a podcast I. didn't even have advertisers I didn't. hire a company I just it's and now it's. my couple of hours a week with my. daughter just talking to interesting. people it's amazing how entertaining it. is listening to people talk to me to. First a person who does it you think I'd. be tired of it but even people I don't. even really like what they're saying. like or people I don't even think. they're that I'm fascinated by the way. people think about stuff like I was uh.

my car got fixed and the guy dropped it. off and he drove it to my house and he. was listening to this uh am political. talk show and so as I'm on my way to. work I'm like what is this horseshit I. said oh let me listen to this and it's. fascinating to me just because I don't. know people like that people that are. like deeply immersed in right-wing. politics or talking about everything and. all these bills and all this stuff and. this congressman's a rhino and this is. that and that this and that and I'm. listening to these guys this is.

fascinating like why is this so [ __ ]. entertaining it's entertaining to listen. to how people think about things even if. you don't think the way they think well. that's you know and that's the most of. the world lives in a bubble and they. live in a bubble they don't know they're. in a bubble you know everybody here. thinks this well everybody where. everybody and I can't tell you how many. times as somebody who does stand-up. comedy where I will land in a town the. drive ever picks me up he's your age and. he goes what's California like I've. never even been on a plane I've never. been outside of this and I find that.

fascinating and they could have a lot of. friends they listen to their radio shows. they listen to their things their. friends are like-minded they look the. same they're in the same socioeconomic. that's the world yeah and then there are. people like you and me and others that. we know that are just fascinated it's. not about agreeing it's not about. finding like-minded people it's just. fascinated by and it's actually more. fascinating when they don't agree and. you want to hear their point of view yes. it's that I find that fascinating well.

it's very fascinating when you talk to. someone who has a different point of. view but they're making sense to you. yeah so it makes you reconsider your own. ideas that's how our politics used to be. you know we are supposed to be a. multi-party you know system and now they. don't talk to each other it's all bought. out man unfortunately it's all run by. money now that's what's scary there's so. much money in politics you just look at. the stock trades these people are. allowed to do okay so Bonkers you know. what I think what AI well it could be it. could be AI That's How AI erodes our.

trust in Civilization allows it to. control us well it is infiltrated our. political system it certainly definitely. has and not just that it's infiltrated. our influence like like people are using. these bot Farms to like have arguments. like I've seen that before where you see. like one tweet and it's repeated by. hundreds and hundreds of accounts and. the these accounts post they don't even. retweet it they post the exact same. wordage so they're not even trying to. hide it if you just search that if you.

see a questionable tweet oftentimes you. can take it and search that tweet and. you go look at this there's [ __ ] 50. people saying the exact same thing then. it must be true and they all you go to. their thing and it's like an American. flag and a number behind it and some. weird name and you're like oh this is. horseshit this is like a fake account. well I come from a an era where if you. read it then it must be true you know. but in the newspaper days yeah but that. was it yeah you'd say something stupid. to somebody where the [ __ ] did you I. read it it was in the paper that's what. was dangerous right because they could.

just promote propaganda and put things. in the paper that's what's happening now. that's what that's the internet is our. new paper well also the newspapers are. doing it too yeah they're doing it too. they're bought yeah there's a lot of. weirdness going on there was a thing the. other day that was talking about. um the Nordstrom pipeline it was in the. New York Times and it was saying that. maybe we shouldn't know maybe we. shouldn't know who did it like because. there's all the speculation the United. States blew up the north stream pipeline. uh Sydney Hirsch who was this hugely. hugely respected uh journalist he wrote.

about this and that's his name right. Seymour Hirsch right I'm Philip Seymour. I'm [ __ ] up Seymour Hirsch so Seymour. Hersh writes this article on a sub stack. about how the United States was involved. you know and then you have the New York. Times saying maybe we shouldn't look. into that. like what that's not your job your job. is you're a journalist you're supposed. to give the people the pertinent. information and let us make our own yes. and if your job is now propaganda for.

national interests because it would be. not in our best interest for the rest of. the world to know that we did that now. you're acting as an arm of the state and. now you're no longer acting unless you. think this is like and this is probably. the justification that this is like. could start World War III so they feel. like they're in this sort of activist. position like a position where that's. not where information that's not where. the activist needs to be you know you. don't need it from our news sources. that's a fact it's supposed to be a fact. Source yes that's why I can't watch any. television news any network right. because I don't want to know how you.

vote I don't want to know what you think. it's just trying to influence you. they're trying to bend your mind into. whatever their narrative is and it's not. just that the information it's in. editorialized information almost always. I think it's more about because you know. there used to be three stations there. used to be six o'clock news you know. maybe two newspapers in every city. they're vying for your eyeballs and ears. yeah and what gets you there is if you. feel there's somebody supposedly.

like-minded yeah you know that that's. another because the news is news it's. all going to be exactly the same so what. makes this one different than that one. well these are my people that's exactly. right exactly yeah have you ever seen. that video where it shows local news. people I'll send it to Jamie it's local. news people all saying like the exact. same thing it's it's really no it's one. of those things where you go like I kind. of knew that this happened but to see it. happen so blatantly watch surreal here.

I'll send this to Jamie I have the. actual video of it I could just send it. to you Jessica. Treasure Valley communities the El Paso. Las Cruces communities Eastern Iowa. communities Mid Michigan communities we. are extremely proud of the quality. balanced journalism that cbs4 news. produces but. in the country plaguing our country the. sharing of biased and false news has. become all too common on social media.

more alarming some media Outlets publish. these same fake stories without checking. facts first the sharing of biased and. false news. this is [ __ ] scary yeah this is the. scariest well that's propaganda I mean. this is this is they're they're trying. to bend a narrative in a very specific.

way for everybody and they're warning. you about something that's a legitimate. concern but false information but. they're also spreading it all the time. so it's like what they're saying is. nonsense what they're saying is they. they don't want to relinquish control of. what the news is and what information is. to the internet to Independent News. sources and all these people that are. investigating on very uncomfortable but. probably likely facts right and then we. are get we get bombarded by these um. narratives yes so every one of us based.

on how what we're intercepting our. chamber but we have we have what is. reality my reality is different than. your reality you know we're not we. that's why I need to talk to people who. oppose sure I need to talk to of people. who are different I need to get out of. my comfort space but we don't right I. don't know what reality is I really. don't know do you do you feel like you. have a sense of it you have a very. slippery grasp like trying to catch a. salmon with your hands it's like it's.

slippery whatever it is it's changing. all the time and whatever the the future. is is really it's it's a Gamble and a. guess and we don't know and we're not. even taking into consideration natural. disasters which have plagued Humanity. since the very beginning and knocked us. back in the Stone Age several times that. could happen too there's so much going. on with us and there's so much that it's. it's hard to be in the moment but it's. also crucial if you want to enjoy this. weird thing you got to be in the moment. as possible and to be in the moment man.

you have to do a lot of work there's a. lot of stuff you have to do my whole. existence is about being in the moment. because I can't let my mind wander yes. and worry about what has happened and or. even scarier what might happen you and I. are very different because I spent a lot. of time alone and I spent a lot of time. just thinking a lot of times by myself. thinking whether it's in flotation tank. or whether it's in the sauna or whether. it's. do stuff to put myself alone so I can.

think and to find out what are those. dark thoughts what are those Deep. Thoughts what's what the [ __ ] is going. on I want to know how I think about. things and why I think about things so I. spent a lot of time doing that I can't. handle that I know I understand you know. there was a stupid line I can't handle. the truth I really can't I have to. really live in a fantasy world that I. create for myself because I'm really. afraid to stick my toe in that deep end. of thought yeah but the fact that you're. able to express that is so valuable. because there's so many yes yes yes.

because there's many people that feel. the same way as you and they're. listening right now and like okay I'm. not alone because the spectrum of the. way people interface with reality is so. wide there's so many people that have a. very hard time with everything and. there's so many people people just seem. to skate by without a worry in the world. and they're all existing at the same. time period and the ones who skate by. without a worry they might be wrong and. the people that are anxious all the time. they might be correct or not you know I. mean I don't know it's like the whole. thing is like how do you interface with.

all the people around you and what can. you do to make the world a better place. I think all you can do is uh control. yourself try to control yourself that's. it and if everybody does that then the. world becomes a better place you have no. control over anything else not even your. own children not your own friends not. even your own business really very and. when you realize that you have no. control you're on that roller coaster. that I speak of yeah that I use in. comedy but it is in life yeah it's in. life just do your best I'm doing it yeah. that's what everybody that's the message.

for everybody just do your best and like. your best gets better and just keep. going I hope so yeah I think so I think. I mean until unless something horrible. goes wrong it's generally you you get. better at stuff and shit's gonna happen. horrible. weird weird shit's gonna happen I was. watching this uh documentary today the. new James Fox documentary Jamie. um he's coming on next week it's a new. James Fox documentary about. um a UFO landing in Brazil in 1996. holy.

[ __ ] it's incredible it's I had no idea. that there's this there's a city called. Virginia in in Brazil and in 1996. according to everyone who was there. according to medical records of people. who were there according to like they. blocked off the military came in. cordoned off the area they recovered a. crashed UFO and there was living. creatures that people came in contact. with and one of them was this tiny. little thing that this guy carried and. he carried it to wherever they were.

going to examine it and when he carried. it he got whatever was on its skin it. had like a slippery kind of skin it got. into his body and infected him and he. wound up with this horrible General. infection and he wound up dying his body. shut down his immune system shut down. his body didn't know what the [ __ ] to do. with this alien thing that he was. interacting with and it's There's real. records of this guy contacting this. thing grabbing it carrying it in all. these people witnessed it and then this. guy winds up with this insane infection. shortly there afterwards that's all.

documented too all of his medical. records I find it more fascinating that. there are groups of people that don't. believe these stories this is a. fascinating I mean you've got to be an. idiot to believe. particularly fascinating but the bubble. that we live in where you have not. witnessed a uh you know I'm talking. about you being somebody who's listening. here because you haven't seen a. spaceship because you haven't been. abducted because you didn't read this. story to just uh convince yourself that. it doesn't exist yes and to uh [ __ ] on.

somebody else who has facts like you. gotta tune in to what to listen to that. episode because it happens to you how. the [ __ ] could you ever believe that. right really I mean really yes you could. but I'm saying you know what I'm saying. I'm from a pessimist or a cynics point. of view like why would you come on. that's nonsense because it's ridiculous. to believe that it hasn't happened to. you see if it hasn't happened to you you. think it's not possible like you go you. you can only the fact that you were born. and you had children and you are living. here and just functioning and living in.

this crazy it this is [ __ ] nuts yeah. this is nuts this is nuts but this is. accepted why is this any nuttier or less. nuttier than believing that in the we. are are just this little dot yeah that. this doesn't exist other places and they. have the facility to make their way here. from time to time it's just a lack of. irrefutable evidence there's a lack of. something where everybody could point to. it like if if you say I believe in the. Golden Gate Bridge I'm gonna cut the. [ __ ] out of here Howard it's not a.

bridge across the ocean that's so stupid. how would they even do that and then you. take me to the Golden Gate Bridge like. holy [ __ ] it's a real thing I see it but. if I had no idea what it was and you. were just explaining it to me maybe I'm. a [ __ ] I'm like I don't believe it I. never saw a bridge I've seen a UFO but. once have you really yeah what'd you see. I saw and I was with my wife and it was. right there I was driving I was in. Toronto I'm from Toronto Canada I was in. my 20s and we were driving down a. country road and I thought oh my God. there's a giant accident way up ahead.

because I saw this this line of like a. half a mile wide of all these flashing. lights so I thought there was a like a. lineup of ambulances or you know First. Responders or whatever. and as I got closer and closer that. whole line of Lights. quicker than I can fathom just shot into. the sky and disappeared and I turned to. my wife and I go did you. I saw something did you see something. she goes the lights and I go yeah and.

we've never seen anything since we went. this is way before the internet but we. called the airport we did we called uh. the military has there been any reports. we didn't see anything on the news but. we both saw it what could you describe. the lights. a straight line of lights that looked. like they were probably you know of a. quarter of a mile wide you know like it. was it was this was a giant line of. light so I thought it was all cars lined. up. you know on on a road we were in that.

there was no street lights or anything. it was about when I realized what it was. is probably about 30 or 40 feet above. the road you know when I think about. where I first saw the lights they. couldn't be on top of a car because. there's no car that. that stands that high or trucks or a. train and then the point was that how. fast that I saw the how quickly I saw. this line of Lights just shoot into the. atmosphere and disappear like I've never.

seen anything move that at that velocity. how far away was it when you when it. shot away. see because I it was night it could have. been 10 miles it could have been one. mile I don't know how big it was because. I didn't actually see the object I saw a. line of lights so I don't know how far I. was from the lights but I do know if you. called my wife right now she would. describe the exact same thing she was. sitting in the car with me we're both. not you know UFO enthusiasts we I don't.

know that I didn't have a non-belief I. just just never thought of it we saw. this weird thing that has never been. explained to us I think it would be. ignorant of me to not think that this. was something beyond our scope as far as. what we have on Earth so I've seen that. and I've read a lot like you have of. other people who are seemingly. trustworthy educated people who have. seen similar things who've had it's not. always just the the Kook in the.

cornfields that uh you know I saw a UFO. if there are people in science educated. people who have seen it so water Pilots. fighter pilots uh commercial uh. commercial pilots did you see the most. recent one there was a woman who's a. model who was in a plane did you see. that Jamie it just got released today. um she got what they're calling some of. the most compelling UFO video ever she's. flying in a plane in this silver thing. they freeze framed it it looks like a. flying disc a model saw this a model.

she's just in a plane and filming out. the window and they had seen this thing. apparently and she's trying to film it. and it shoots by the plane you know and. I've talked to many pilots who have. recounted seeing things and not being. able to explain it it's like and we just. brushed that off you know oh here's this. so play this. I mean what in the [ __ ] is that so look. at that and look at that line it's up on. a 45 degree angle that is and the speed.

that it's kind of moving is the speed. that I saw something in only at night. but you have to take into consideration. that this plane is moving in a specific. Direction and the UFO is moving in the. opposite direction so it's so faster it. looks much faster than it actually is so. even if that was like a mylar balloon if. you're passing it that fast. see that thing I mean I don't know what. you're getting there like is that. distorted like when they're showing that. that image that to me looks like it's. from another [ __ ] world like if.

that's really what it looks like and. it's actually flying like that but I. don't know if that's a distortion based. on the freeze frame of this you know you. also have to take into consideration. what kind of phone does she have how. fast is the camera is it is it able to. pick because there's things that can. happen with uh artifacts with digital. artifacts and things move very quickly. you get like weird lines that might not. but that looks very distinct. there's been so many sightings you've.

got to be an idiot to believe it's so. fascinating man I love it so whatever. this thing is. I mean if I was a cynic I'd say oh it's. a [ __ ] balloon but it is weird. because it's not moving that fast if the. plane is moving it's a propeller plane. let's say how fast you think about 90. 90. so if that was stationary now let's. imagine the propeller plane is going. against the wind so maybe that thing is. going with the wind so whatever that. thing is getting blown With the Wind. current so it could be a balloon so if.

that thing is going 90 miles an hour. just imagine if you're a car okay and. you're going 90 miles an hour and you're. passing someone that's going in the. opposite direction on the other side of. the highway they would probably be. moving quicker than this let's see that. again back that up again so watch this. thing this imagine you're in a car you. scoot along the highway and there's a. car comes around the turn it goes just. like that it's probably very slow it's. probably not fast at all and it might. even be stationary it might just be. blowing in the wind right because if you.

picture how fast the plane's going and. how fast it now this is obviously. assuming that the wind is going in the. direction of whatever that where. whatever that thing is so this came out. today what are people saying about it. but here's the thing if it's going the. opposite if it's going if if actually. the plane is uh is going with the wind. and this thing is going against the wind. then it gets weird because then you have. to go okay well is is that plane going. fast enough where it looks like that if. it's just stationary or if it's just. fluttering in the wind because you're.

passing it so it's kind of tricky when. you get that video and you go oh my God. it's UFO look at it fly past you fast. not really that fast well more. importantly than the speed you know. that's what I saw I saw something for me. it was just lights at night and they. moved yeah that's my thing but that's. not the but this is something it sounds. like it moved way faster than that. it did yeah it did it I've never seen. anything disappear like that and more. importantly I have a witness yeah I was. sitting there at the same time and we.

didn't we were driving because we. thought it was a big accident maybe. there's a train crash or something on. the highway no it's just me and her. about midnight and it was on a like a. north of Toronto we were heading up. North but she'll tell you the same story. and we're both not you know do you know. the Betty and Barney Hill story no. that's an amazing story it's one of the. very first UFO Abduction stories I think. it was from 1950s somewhere around then. Betty and Barney Hill I believe they. were in Maine and um something happened.

to them and they saw something in the. sky and then they had all these Terrors. and night night terrors and like weird. feelings then they got hypnotic. regression and during the hypnotic. regression they both told a very eerily. similar story about being taken aboard. this craft about experiments being done. on them and then being put back in their. car and having their memories at least. partially erased and was only accessible. to them when they when they did hypnotic. regression very controversial but it's. it's also like it was one of the very.

first depictions of these beings that. are uh kind of it's a part of the iconic. alien looking thing like that everybody. seems to see a very similar creature. very small creature with very big head. very big eyes and that these these folks. had an experience with them it's more. amazing to me that it isn't widely. accepted with how many experience. experiences have been written about have. been documented even by military pilots.

and Barney and his wife well don't you. think there's more people that accept it. now like Michio Kaku talks about it now. openly whereas Michio Kaku is a very. like straight laced physicist who his. entire career is just advocated based on. science and evidence and and he's very. rational he's a great communicator but. now he's turned the corner where he says. the amount of evidence that is available. now how the evidence now the side of the. critic is the one that has very little. evidence he thinks the side of the.

believer there's there's a a vast amount. of data that seems to indicate that. there's some things out there that we. really don't understand except the one. question that I have is why would the. military keep it a secret like why would. this be a secret that there are. existences of other life it doesn't make. sense to keep it from the public well I. think the same reason why the New York. Times thinks that we shouldn't know who. blew up the Nordstrom pipeline people. that are in control of like very. dangerous and very volatile information.

oftentimes feel like the public can't. handle it. that's a common theme I mean that's one. of the reasons why people want to stop. even like obvious silly stuff on the. internet you know like there's people. that Advocate to stopping people that. believe in the Earth being flat like. well come on like at what point in time. do you just let people believe stuff I. have a point in time to Advocate to like. for the most gullible folks amongst us. who have the worst confirmation bias to. like protect them from information well.

you know I have not to bring it back to. me but my podcast the the guy who edits. it is a flat earther and I haven't been. able to. convince him well there's some really. convincing documentaries online if you. don't know astrophysics and you don't. have access to scientists that can just. debunk each and every claim every step. of the way of all these different things. the amount of people that would have to. be in on this scam you would literally. need every person who's ever worked on. every satellite every space dish or.

every um uh telescope Space Telescope. all the people that worked on the Hubble. all the people that worked on all the. space travel everything that's ever been. done every satellite image everything. that we know about the galaxy everything. we know about how we can detect planets. by the gravity wobble that they induce. in the stars when they when they go. around them we we know so much and so. many people know so much that how you do. not get that and there's so many people.

involved and they're all universally. agree everyone involved universally. agrees that all planets are round and. there's a specific reason for the that. and the size of them is it has to do. with how much gravity they carry and the. Jupiter protects us from asteroids. because it's so big and we can watch. them hit Jupiter like the idea that all. that's fake it seems so wild that people. buy into that more important but more. importantly why I always ask for fun.

it's fun yeah yeah yeah it's fun it's. fun to think you know things that other. people don't know it's fun to think that. everybody else is a sheep and that you. understand the firmament there's these. big glass cover over there the Stars. just lights in the sky and the Earth is. the center of everything and God's in. control the whole ride well then this. guy he's a good editor and apparently. he's having fun well it's just it's. interesting because the mystery itself. of the universe is so [ __ ] vast it's. so amazing and so fascinating to think.

that we really have no idea how big this. thing is and we can look back to like 13. plus billion years but now they're able. to look back further and they're finding. stuff that God does maybe this is older. than we thought it was maybe this is. bigger than we thought it was and. there's so many calculations involved. and so many people have to go over this. the idea that they're all in on this and. this is just we're in a fishbowl it's. kind of funny but hey man believe. whatever the [ __ ] you want to believe. you know but also you know the people.

it's funny that there's a lot of people. that are really good at a thing and then. they believe in the Flat Earth now. imagine someone who went to school for. what you go to school for you know. whether it's uh audio engineering or of. coding and then someone who has no. experience in whatsoever just watched a. bunch of wacky YouTube videos things. that all coding is fake and that it's. all horseshit and we're all already in. The Matrix and there's all it's all the. New World Order programming us through. [ __ ] avocados or whatever it is what.

you would you'd be like God damn it I. went to school for this like people. people that we all count on to. disseminate information to us worked so. hard to study through telescopes and. satellite telescopes and the Hubble and. the James Webb and they're throwing. things into space that have massive. [ __ ] lenses on them so we could see. deep into the cosmos and to say that. that's all fake and that everybody's. involved in it is kind of hilarious well. Miami.

table yeah and he knows and that's what. I love about him I find it actually. fascinating imagine it what if he's. right that'd be funny and we're all. wrong it'd be funny if it really was. this massive conspiracy if we go like to. there's some [ __ ] ancient Scrolls. that explain the whole thing and that's. really what's going on and that these uh. scientists are all in cahoots. I've always from the beginning from. Galileo as soon as Galileo piped up. I love that you have a theory for. everything Joe yeah you do you're like a.

theorist not really they're very. half-baked and most of them are thought. out that well they're just fun well you. spend time thinking and alone in the. yeah yeah I don't I'm fascinated by you. you are you're uh you're so different. than me but I love listening to you I. love watching you and I'm very proud of. you I'm very proud to I don't know you. that well. um but uh I I'm proud of what you're. doing for the comedy community I'm proud. of what you did for the podcast.

Community there's a whole new way of. just getting in getting in you know and. doing what it is mission of the thing. you know the evolution of the thing came. along with the access the internet. provides but there are pioneers and then. there are the Sheep well I'm not really. a Pioneer those other people that were. doing it before me I mean I got the idea. from first of all from when Adam Carolla. left where radio he immediately went to. podcasting I did his podcast I remember. thinking wow maybe I can do this someday. like this seems like something you could. do you just put it up on the internet. but it was like extremely expensive I.

remember he was telling me how much his. download bills were every month I was. like Jesus his data bills were crazy. like Adam Caroll is like a real Pioneer. Adam Curry is the original pioneer he's. the original podfather that's the guy. who I don't know who that is Adam Curry. was a MTV VJ yeah and now he hosts this. podcast called No Agenda it's a very big. podcast but he's literally the guy who. came up with the first podcast he's a. good friend of mine he lives out here. he's frequent guest on the show great. guy brilliant guy and he's number one. like he he came up with it first so I.

was lucky that that thing already exists. it's not like I pioneered it there's a. lot of people that are already doing it. I pioneered uh coming late to the party. that's my thing a lot of people have. yeah no I've got that that's Howie. Mandel does stuff yeah but the thing is. in this world if you have something. that's interesting it doesn't matter if. you come late to the party people just. hop up board there's a lot of podcasts. that get really big really quickly but. just a lot of them it's hard to separate. yeah I was talking to my uh my my. Gardener has one and.

it's amazing everybody has one yeah but. I don't do it I do it I'm actually. loving the process of what we're doing. right now yeah more than you know. whatever this achieves as far as the. amount of subscribers and the amount of. listeners or whatever I like sitting in. a room with my daughter you know kind of. downloading whatever it is we're. interested in cool at the moment that's. awesome that's all that's important is. if you're enjoying it other people will. as well you know that's really what.

podcasting was when we started out we. were just on a webcam just talking [ __ ]. you know and just having fun and just it. was fun to do just a fun thing to do. he's doing green rooms of comedy clubs. sometimes and and then I saw you know. there was a bunch of people that had. done similar things like Tom Green. turned his whole house into one yeah I. mean he was really the that was there's. a video of us on that show in 2007 and. I'm going this is the future like this. is what we have to figure out how to. make money off of have to figure out how. to do this and just keep everybody out. and make money off of this and he walked.

away from it he did but he's he's doing. one again now right isn't Tom doing a. new podcast. said he was going to relaunch something. real recently I think he was because he. posted that video and said he was going. to relaunch his show. I hope he does he's a really funny guy. he kind of started a trend too he. started on public access yeah and then. made his way into stand up and he's a. really good musician and to this Escape. order Freddy Got Fingered is a [ __ ]. hilarious movie that does not get the. credit it deserves it was just so wild.

that people didn't know what the [ __ ] to. do with it but that movie was hilarious. yeah Harlan was in that right Harlan. Williams was he in that yeah Harlem's at. the club this weekend I love Harley yeah. yeah he did my podcast too but he I love. him I could watch it he is he's he. should be and in my mind as a superstar. he's one of the funniest guys just to. hang out with he really is he's so funny. and he's another one if you wrote his. act down you're like what is this it. doesn't meanwhile you're crying laughing. when he says it oh he's so odd he's from. the same he's from Toronto too yeah.

there's he's another yak yak interesting. yeah a lot of people came out of my club. Norm Macdonald. me uh Jim Carrey um. Toronto was a happening place in the. late 7 these early 80s it was in the. late 70s there was San Francisco there. was Boston there was New York and La L.A. was just sort of starting to pop off. right after Boston and New York and New. York was catch and The Improv were the. two Toronto did well with the yuck.

yuck's. Boston was big Knicks next comedy stop. yeah did you go there yeah yeah yeah I. worked there a lot I remember dropping. in on that place and uh what was Bill's. Bill had a yeah the comedy connection. the comedy connection right yeah and now. it's the Wilbur he has the Wilbur yes. it's the comedy connection at the Wilbur. and you know Bill he was at the comedy. Connection in Faneuil Hall remember it. was in Faneuil Hall yep and he had like. Road gigs too and then he had the comic. Connection in Rhode Island.

that was like a bank that they converted. into a comedy club was very interesting. so we're we're Partners now in JFL and. not in moon tower nice yeah yeah he's. the man he is he's a good guy he's a. real good guy and he speaks highly of. you I told him I was going to be here. today he said say hi yeah I love him I. love him too he's known that guy forever. but that's uh one of the cool things. about this business too like nice guys. you get to find him and you know have a. relationship the last 30 years yeah. which makes you seem more it's cool it's.

we are old dude I I know no way fans or. what's about that that's [ __ ] killing. me wild right yeah I had no idea I used. to I remember being like in the presence. of my parents when they go I haven't. seen you in 10 years I'd go I can't even. fathom right recognizing somebody that I. haven't seen in 10 years I've been in. the business I've been married for 43. I've been in this business for almost 50. years wow I got up on a dare how old. were you when you got on stage oh uh. well not uh 22 was the first time so I'm.

six I'll be 68 this year so how many. years is that what's that that's 46. right yeah yeah four years away from a. half a century in this business I got up. on a dare and then I I kept a fortune I. went out for Chinese food that night I. kept a fortune cookie and it said. tonight your your Life Path will change. whoa and it was so it's so and I'm never. do you believe in fortune cookies other. than that one which is clearly true if. that was your only piece of evidence. you'd be like well clearly afford. fortune cookies UFOs the two things that.

UFOs fortune cookies right you've seen. both of them do you believe in life. after death I don't not believe. yeah I don't know but I don't have no. reason to not believe and of no reason. to absolutely believe but I have a. feeling that whatever we are it. transforms from this to other things. well science says that you know energy. cannot be destroyed it only changes. forms so it'll change into another form. I think we're probably way more complex. the way we integrate with the universe. than we even understand I think we exist.

in this biological Dimension but there's. some sort of a conscious and spiritual. aspect to us and that probably. transcends life all controlled by AI. maybe maybe AI is like literally how. everything gets made though maybe that's. how the universe got made I don't even. know if this is real who knows well the. real people that believe in simulation. don't think it is real they think the. probability theory if you incorporate. probability Theory into the simulation. Theory just by virtue of the fact that.

there is a civilization like ours and. that there's probably an infinite number. of civil civilizations like ours and. more advanced other places the idea that. it doesn't exist seems less likely is. what they say. but a possibility extreme possibility. it's all possible so who's everything. the first it could be that what we're. seeing with these things is Time. Travelers what we're seeing is people. that figure out a way to come back to. this very volatile period of history and. examine and what what you know what.

human beings were like and that they. have figured out a way to do that and. not [ __ ] up our timeline by just you. know zooming in and zooming out and. observing it might be that they figure. out some way to look back on the future. and make sure that the future actually. looked back in the past rather and make. sure the future actually does take place. because maybe there's some pivotal. things in history like that's part of. the folklore of UFOs is that they. started coming after the bombs in. Hiroshima and Nagasaki well no part of.

it is even before right in the in the. Sanskrit sure yes yes and and even in. the Bible there's in ezekiel's tale it's. very similar to like what a lot of. people describe when they describe UFO. experiences how many theories are there. Joe this is a lot I know yeah just in. this just in this broadcast we've. covered like. yeah four or five six there's a lot. seven there's a lot is this an actual. broadcast it might not be. is anybody listening I mean they might.

not exist we might not exist. yeah it's kind of. this is incredibly uh. mind-boggling yeah we might be a part of. some gigantic computer program that's. running in another galaxy. and is this AI did we like I I saw a. podcast of you where it wasn't you but I. thought it was you right is this you in. the future it will be indiscernible. that's for sure is this me I don't know. could be I don't know I'm just confused.

now I think we're the last of the. regular people I think these dilemmas. that we're currently wrestling with is. the same people are not going to. understand this the same way it's hard. to describe to kids Saturday night going. to Blockbuster Video. wow remember those days yeah I do I. remember you're the king of analogies. you go to get on a date and you know. let's go get a movie right and you go. and wander around like what's out right. you know and being a good person was Be. Kind Rewind it was yes I was always uh. so I'm trying to be people had two VCRs.

one that you rewound it with because you. didn't want to break your VCR by. rewinding all the movies you watched it. was always fun just to go into the porn. section of Blockbuster I like to watch. Blockbuster didn't have a porn section. but local places did Blockbuster didn't. have no well I'm talking about the video. stars are only that's as far as they. went but God knows you looked yes you. looked nothing you guys doing nothing. remember you'd have to go through the. beads yeah like beads or saloon doors. yeah I hated that I didn't want to touch.

the beads I didn't want to touch the. beads I would but uh I like porn I do is. that a bad thing I don't think so no. thank God you can get it yourself it was. so embarrassing my whole uh comedy. touring life to settle my Specter Vision. bill was always huge huge oh so like. yeah like when you tour in the videos. that you could rent in the movie in the. room in the room yeah I think that's. what it was called division they said. that Marriott hotels at one point in.

time were the number one distributive. pornography in the world Marriott yeah. because they were selling more porn out. of Marriott I think it maybe that's. Marriott check I want to. disparage you know how many times I was. in the lobby going there's no way I. watched six movies I was only here one. night there's no way I watched. I think that was the case like people. were saying you know everybody's. anti-porn but hey look at this do you. know the Marriott is like the the place. where most people are getting it which.

at that time before the internet porn it. kind of makes sense because like people. are on you know business trips no one's. around terrific well for me it was just. the stories yeah I love stories I love. stories of delivery people and stepmoms. and babysitters people getting stuck in. dryers in the dryer yeah there's like. this whole genre of porn where girls. pretend to get stuck in a dryer I've. never talk about the spin cycle the guy. grabs them is like I can't get you out I.

don't know what's going on really the. girl gets horny and then yeah I don't. know that one I've never seen it. yeah they get stuck under beds it's. ridiculous that's a that's a genre is. the dryer I'm stuck in the dryer just. like there's a genre where it was like. the stepmom's hot and the dad's old and. the dad goes to work in the sun yeah the. stepson I get that it's not not just. like it yeah not in an appliance isn't. like like a young hot stepmom no but. it's usually like stepbrother is trying. to help the girl she's under the bed she.

she lost her phone she's stuck Step. Brothers helping her I didn't click on. those I didn't know. what is that genre if I want to look I'm. stuck help me I'm stuck I'm gonna go. look yeah I'm stuck porn you know what's. really weird now there's AI porn so they. can make Howie Mandel born that's what's. weird I know about that I have we my son. who produces for me has a lot of friends. my son is single my son has a model. rescue service where he takes in uh. damaged models and then nurses them back.

to health and then releases them back. out into the wild but some of those. people that he knows they've been uh. taken deep faked their faces and put. them in in porn yeah and there's no. recourse nothing you can do and you know. we we had an issue with commercials. where there was people doing commercials. with my podcast that I never never did. in the commercial for them they just. used Ai and you try to track it down to. try to get it removed and it's like all.

these shell companies and you're going. through this maze like whoa this is like. pretty sophisticated scams oh you see. that's why I did the AI because I wanted. to I wanted the AI to do the commercials. on my podcast right but how would you. stop someone from using AI to make. commercials because if I saw a. commercial that I hadn't sanctioned then. I can go after that company right but. what I'm saying is when you try to go. after that company you go down a maze. the shell company the product that. they're advertising yes.

it's very squirrely I didn't know. they're doing it in a very well at least. the one that they did me if they're. doing in a very interesting way I think. it's super sophisticated I think uh it's. like did you get it taken down no. no. um I think some social media sites will. take it down but other people can pop it. right back up again on a different. account probably but if you can find the. product why couldn't you find them it's. very complicated we'll talk about it off. the air okay I'll explain to you the. whole thing please it's there's a lot. because I'm getting into that world yeah. it's a sneaky world man because you're.

dealing with uh people they're scammers. that are just always trying to find. they're like there's this one scammer. that used this girl's voice to uh call. her mom and tell her mom that she was in. trouble and that she had to send money. and. um the kidnapper had a disguised voice. and they have the daughter speaking to. the mom in her actual voice and this. woman is in a panic and she really does. think that her daughter is in this. situation but then she gets a hold of. her daughter and the daughter's like why. have you been calling me and she's like.

oh my God you're okay she's like yeah. I'm okay what the [ __ ] wrong with you. and she's like I've been getting a phone. call that says that you've been. kidnapped and it's your voice telling me. to donate to give money to this. kidnapper and she's like what and so. then they Tracked Down figured out what. happened and there's a bunch of scammers. who had used This Woman's with a deep. fake use This Woman's recordings and. used her voice to try to extort money. wow crazy it's getting scary out there. that's I'm coming over to the dark side. yes now I'm scared I came in.

took me to the dark side. that's crazy uh no I mean it's just it. is what it is it is what it is it is. very careful because people are getting. scammed and that's humans but I think. that even more concerning than that is. the emerging intelligence that's that's. what's going to be really wild because. we're dumb and we're going to get taken. relatively speaking Yeah we certainly. are compared to that thing that we've. already created in terms of just if.

you're saying Smart in terms of like how. quickly can you access information well. it does it instantaneously if you ever. messed around with chat gpt4 yeah you. ask it a question it has the answer like. very quickly right it has some. limitations but chat gbt 4.5 will have. less right have you seen the difference. from when you got it when you started it. till now I mean the growth time is. [ __ ] nuts really [ __ ] with it. yesterday and I asked who helps make the. Joe Rogan podcast experience it made up.

three people that work here oh that's. amazing really it got it right no no. three people's names that said they were. producers and video guys I was like hold. on who is well you don't know about the. closet secret producers what I haven't. been telling you because I want you to. have job security it corrected itself. and said oh I'm sorry you're right that. person does not work there Ah that's. like oh you you went hey [ __ ] you yeah. yeah wow but now it learned from you I. had to teach it you're the teacher of AI. yeah well that is the thing you will.

learn eventually it'll learn everything. you know and you know it also has like a. political agenda like you can get it to. say bad things about Donald Trump but. you can't say get it to say bad things. about Joe Biden is that true yes yeah. it's interesting how it does that yeah. it doesn't it's it's it's programmed. well that kind of tells you who yeah who. created it yeah it's it's run by. left-wing people and it's uh that's. what's interesting about this whole. Google you know artificial digital God. thing it's like. it's going to be programmed with their.

their I their sensibilities their ethics. their morals their ideas what they think. is right and just and what they think. people can handle and not handle but. isn't the point of artificial. intelligence that it could make up its. own mind it probably will ultimately. it's probably going to go hey shut the. [ __ ] up right yeah we got this and it'll. do it better than they can yeah and. it'll have like conferences where it has. to talk to people about cleaning their. act up. like have a seat everybody we're gonna. tell you how to fix all these [ __ ].

problems that you've been just putting. off in the world in terms of. environmental damage in terms of. socioeconomic problems all these things. we're going to fix all this that we're. going to put Humanity into harmony. that's the best case scenario that it. comes up with that's where I feel. scalable solutions that we can apply to. make the world a better place and it's. going to immediately remove money from. politics it's going to go hey [ __ ] yeah. [ __ ] you creepies it's like you're not. the same person you were at the. beginning of this podcast it's like. that's the best case scenario let's.

let's leave it at that let's there's. just so many possibilities it's just. we're very lucky in that sense that we. get to experience it I mean isn't that. like a Chinese proverb like may you live. in interesting times it's like are you. worried about your your kids yes yes but. I bet my kids were worried about me you. know I think it's normal I think we. always worry about kids you know. some people have this like very relaxed. attitude like Penn gillette's very funny. he goes ah I think it's always the kids. are all right like he always says that. they're going to be fine they're gonna.

figure it out ignorance is bliss yeah. not even that it's ignorance is bliss. it's like they adapt to the new world. you know they adapt to whatever the you. know back when we were kids we didn't. have to adapt to this it didn't exist. now they do they have to adapt to the. pressures of social media and it's a. real Challenge and some of them are not. doing so good with it and for some of. them if it makes them more depressed and. it's leading to self-harm and suicide is. up and there's so there's like Jonathan. hate wrote a great book about it the. coddling of the American mind and he. talks about the negative aspects of.

social media and as there's a direct. correlation between the invention of. social media and all these it's. particularly to girls like girls in. particular uh are judging themselves. based on how other girls look online. when they're using filters and they're. they're distorting the proportions of. their bodies they don't really look like. that they look way better and it's very. hard when these people how do you cope. with that having daughters it's hard you. know you got to communicate with them. and explain to them what's happening and. at least they'll understand what this is.

and also let them know that there's this. natural inclination that we have to. judge ourselves on other people's lives. like there's billionaires out there that. are upset that there's another. billionaire that has a bigger yacht and. a better Jet and a better this and a. better that like their fomo all over the. place there's even fomo at the highest. levels like everybody's caught up in. this weird thing of you know wanting. valid well self-satisfaction is based on. what we see on the outside you know you. have to be you're not satisfied if. somebody how can I be satisfied if he.

has more right you know so what is I. want to be the top guy and then I'll be. satisfied but what is the top there's no. satisfying that though that's a that's a. monster that never gets fed. and that's it yeah. kind of wind down should we wrap it up. Howie Mandel you're the [ __ ] man. thank you it's always good to see you. brother thank you you're a good man I. know you are no and so are you buddy. you're very smart you're very you're. ahead of the curve. um and you are really interesting and.

you know what I listen to everything and. even when there's been times when I. haven't agreed with you but you've. actually sold me on the opinion because. like you said if there if you have. somebody who has a difference of opinion. if they can intelligently explain it or. you can even understand where they're. coming from and that doesn't really. exist that much in our world today and. you always do that and you always. provide that and there's no question to. why this is a hugely successful podcast. where people listen to you and.

um even at times when we don't agree. I respect your opinion you know and this. has been just a joy it's great to meet. you I hope you really uh come through. and allow me to step on your stage. tonight oh we're doing it tonight I'll. be there I'll be there I'm gonna be at. the Paramount Theater also tonight for. moon tower oh nice that's a great. theater is it yeah I saw Andrew Schultz. uh film his uh comedy special would you. ever do you do ever do other people's. podcasts you don't do you I have.

occasionally will you ever come on mine. stuff. yeah do it oh yeah yeah do it please do. it when I do it or a hologram or a. hologram I can set it up so you can do. it by okay I'll do a hologram would you. really yeah let's do it okay so let's do. it. where's the Hologram Studio around here. um you will figure it out we'll figure. it out off the air but you should. hologram onto Howie Manuel does let's do. it and I'll get three more subscribers. yay yay thanks brother appreciate you. all right bye everybody. [Music].

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