Joe Rogan Experience #1965 - David Choe

[Music]. by night. [Music]. hey what's happening can I give you a. real hug. and uh I always like to give you a gift. um so this is my like shroom mates.

you know our connection through. psychedelics that's beautiful and I. added this one train all day GRE all. night. oh wow mushroom got I got a mushroom. playing a mushroom drum set with like. some guy dunking on you know nice I. wanted to model the feet but I want to. give it to you thank you very much I. don't know if it'll fit but I'm sure. it'll fit here you go thank you yeah. there you go and what is this [ __ ]. costume you wearing underneath this. Jesus Christ ah Joe.

um. I've been cruising Austin. all right where do I begin with this. okay where where do I begin with this. where do you begin with this I touched. down Austin yesterday all right this is. what I this they're like you touch down. wearing that or would they have this on. and now um people are like. do you think they know I'm from L.A do. you think they know I'm from out of town. um no there's a lot of people here like.

that. let me do a call out to the Asians. really quick. uh Asians if you're listening to all my. gooks all my jungle Asians I've been. here for 24 hours in Texas. oh my God I found a copy Gene Place. awesome Sushi there's like two ban me. places a hello hello place like. if you're listening this I've done the. reconnaissance I was on my bike I went. down Congress I went through like. um uh Westlake I I rode all over town. like it was the best like I had.

Explosions in the Sky playing. um I watch Friday Night Lights when I. got back to my room it's like this place. is I saw like maybe two homeless people. I rode around the lake. Barbecue's great like that was my. concern right I think the last time I. did your show you were it was the week. you were about to leave I talked to. Jamie he was like yeah you know and I. was like this guy this guy's not really. gonna like it's such a it's such a bold. move and like.

I didn't even like time has passed so. quickly it's been like two years since I. saw you it's almost three [ __ ] it's. almost three yeah yeah I've been here. almost three years it'll be three years. well it'll be three years Jamie in May. it'd be three years that I looked. and then August when I moved here yeah. so I'm I I. look when people tell me how awesome. Austin is I don't know the rest of Texas. but like Austin is like the vibe. yesterday it's like the weather like.

everyone was out like having picnics how. many days are you in town for uh I leave. tomorrow if you want to like like I. gotta I want to show you a club oh I. definitely want to check out the club. but like I I was like checking out real. estate on my bike just yeah I was just I. gotta looking like this yeah looking. like this. and I gotta tell you man like I kind of. like come in hard like this because I. want people to be like and Austin's. already weird right like yeah and no one. no one gives a phone no one gives a [ __ ].

waiting an hour in line at Terry blacks. like this no one gives a [ __ ] like it's. just like. it's. like there's not a ton of Asians not. like I like there's Asian Community. there is there is but I'm saying to the. Asians listening. it's it's a good place. I see very quickly why why you didn't go. back after like I don't want to go back. I'm not going back I don't want to go. back there's no traffic here the people. are so friendly they're so nice yeah.

it's like everything about it I love. there's so many artists here there's so. many musicians here there's so many. comedians here now it's [ __ ]. thick with comedians yeah and like you. think I like dressing like this it's. like it's because I'm born and raised in. L.A like I'd rather raise kids here and. like have them not look like this but. sorry Mom like [ __ ] you that's your. [ __ ] fault like. um so yeah it's a great place to raise. kids it feels very artsy yeah like tons. of art everywhere and the deeper you get. like the more you're here the more. you'll see the more you'll see that the.

more you experience that what is your. threshold for compliments this morning. oh generally not that good at them all. right well I just have to tell you. because I've once again like we don't. talk very often but when we do and then. like your voice is just on all the time. because they got you playing. you're a great audio portrait artist. like the interviews you've done. using like you've captured the essence. like the way a painter captures and it's. like the best of that person right like.

you of that celebrity or that scientist. or whoever so you're a great audio. portrait artist thank you. um. just that that move to like be like La. sucks and then lead the charge and. like look my driver my driver like I saw. on the map that I was like a mile away. and I told him to like drop me off. because I just wanted to walk a little. bit like this and uh he's like what do. you mean it's like how are you gonna get.

there I'm like I'm walk like like you're. gonna walk to the studio like yeah like. like walk the earth [ __ ] you. know and walking you know going down. South Congress and like. your presence is felt like you've. you've like kind of changed like the. comedy club thing oh my God like that's. amazing to. to like try to get a into a comedy club. like it's gone full circle if you like. you've gone like from. trying to get the spot at the comedy.

club to now owning one and you're like. I'm gonna do it my way and like all the. things I didn't like so that that. courage to like just cut your own path. gives me courage and I just want to say. you're lovable oh you're lovable too. you're loving and you're just you're. your love thank you your love so I just. wanted to I appreciate you but I just. wanted to say that yeah I just you know. my I just follow my instincts in my. instincts we were first of all to get. the [ __ ] out of La I felt like it was. just gonna get worse yeah I felt like. the way the government is run there.

they're they're just drinking the same. poison that got them sick and they're. not gonna change and after all that. defund the police [ __ ] and the the chaos. of shutting all the restaurants and bars. and everything down from covid for like. a [ __ ] year and a half I was like you. people are incompetent and you're not. gonna ruin my life I'm gonna go. someplace where you're more free yeah. and this was the first place that we. went in May of 2020 right and my kids. loved it and my wife loved it and I was.

like let's go let's [ __ ] move so a. couple months later I was here and and. you don't you don't seem to come back. that often I don't like it I don't like. going back it feels it feels shitty when. I'm landing too many people man I think. when you get too many people in an area. you devalue people you don't appreciate. them as much oh I'm a hindrance I have a. I live in a pretty nice neighborhood in. L.A. I have a bat a baseball bat I'm not an. athletic person I have a baseball bat in. my house that's never hit a baseball. it's only hit human flesh like it's like.

it's like insane if I like forget to. close my garage one night there's. junkies in there and I I'm just like. maybe Austin is a nice starter place but. I'm trying to I'm trying to like get out. get out like I'm looking in South. America I'm looking in um Asia I'm. looking at New Zealand I'm looking in. Africa Jesus yeah like so I mean Costa. Rica Costa Rica for sure like. um. yeah cause I just you're right that.

whole thing about things being too. populated oh and I have to like before. we like get into it like I have to. like you came on my podcast like. 15 years something like something crazy. something like way in the early early. pod days and. it was like so and I've done your. podcast a few times now so it's like I. remember when it was live and I would. leave your studio and as soon as I left. people be like yo that was great I was.

like oh [ __ ] dude so I always knew you. had impact but to come on your show the. last time I came on like two three years. ago it's like standing on a soapbox with. a microphone in front of the whole world. like in three years like not a day has. gone by where someone doesn't. say something nice or say hey man like I. was gonna kill myself and I heard that. episode and I was like you changed my. life and I'm like uh okay thank it feels. weird right it's weird but in the way. I mean Jamie you could talk about it.

with like we do you do the show and then. you chop it up into like Clips right. there's people out there that chop it. into like tick tocks and reels and. there's one where I talk about the hadza. tribe the hunter-gatherer tribe that has. 30 million views and I don't know what. that monetizes into for like YouTube or. whatever but I think it's like it's like. 50 60 Grand so it's like. the words are the in like you can like. just this is it like someone could get. rich just like talking and doing this. [ __ ] and.

so after after doing that show and I'm. I'm just telling like my journey to. Africa and how I felt being with this. hunter-gatherer tribe. it like literally saved their lives like. like the money that came in the amount. of people that donated to the hanza uh. the moleca foundation the you know the. foundation people are calling me saying. what's happening right now there's so in. like this is like clean water for them. this is like you know education clothes.

like all these things and I'm like wow. you talk about something on Joe Rogan it. could like save a culture you know and. and there was so much. um. like the influencers that went out there. the guy with the red headband that eats. all the crazy [ __ ] went out there the. liver King went out there Logan Paul had. never met the guy calls me like bro take. me to Tanzania like so there's like. insane like and if you guys are doing. that like please hover money much money. you're making from getting those views. like all those views have like all those.

videos have like millions of views. please uh donate back to the haja. because like they need it but yeah I. mean. the rasuli Shawnee the guys that I I. know out there are like the tourism is. is is great so it's like a thriving. thing just because I talked about it and. uh. um and like going off what you said like. um I helped make a film I was the. cameraman on this film called uh we are. hadza if anyone out there wants I just. helped make it it's just like the best.

documentary it's like the first. beginning to end baboon haunt and then. skinning it eating it like you feel like. you're living that lifestyle so. I'm not trying to be like Harrison Ford. in like a mosquito Coast but like I. think uh Austin is a good buffer for the. family and then eventually I do want to. fully. go to kind of like. I'm not who am I kidding like not fully. hunter-gatherer but like fully like a.

culture where it's like not that many. people I know who all my neighbors are. I'm living like half like City Life and. half like there so. things are starting to steer towards. going back to Africa for me I mean I'm. not even close yet I'm just saying like. um I remember what was it about that. spoke to you so much that you want to be. there more often. um. well like art I'm an artist right and. art is about expression and creating but.

if you're saying I'm a professional. artist at some point there has to be a. conversation about business monetization. making money and you know we could get. into all the AI [ __ ] which is crazy but. um. you know I go I go to Africa with the. ego of like I'm an important artist you. know like and I'm gonna like. so I I my backpack is mostly art. supplies right and I get there and. there's a cave that we're living in for. like a few weeks and like. you know if the weather's nice we sit.

and sleep on top of the cave and if it's. you know really raining or something we. sleep under the cave and in the daytime. when like the real men are like hunting. I'm like I'll give art lessons to the. kids you know and because the kids have. no art training they're just raw you. know they're just and it's just what. they here's a bow and arrow and they're. just drawing like and the drawings are. like amazing and I'm drawing them in my. mind. these are going to be like Museum pieces. or like I'm going to Archive them when I. get home and put out a book and like. donate all the money back to them and um.

so we spend the whole day drawing and. I'm like these are like some of the best. pieces of art I've ever because it was. fun it was like in nature it's with. these guys that are not trained you know. and it's and I'm looking at it and I'm. like holding it like this not to like. you know smudge it or anything and. they're like yeah and then the the tribe. comes back they're covered in blood they. you know they got an animal and I'm like. look at this art we made and I'm like oh. that's cool and we're on top of the cave. and they're like cool and they throw it. off the game I go way wait I'm like wait.

what are you doing with that I could. have and I go oh yeah Hunter like they. don't have anything yeah they they don't. like what do they have a flat file out. there like and I was like. whole like it just hit me so hard in. that moment they're so present it's not. about like. oh I'm I'm living in the moment and then. I gotta like go home and edit it and. like you know do it's just like we did. it we love it and bye-bye it's a piece. of paper in the window and I was like.

uh uh you know and there was one that I. drew like you know and I I had it. sketched and I was like spending a lot. of time I was like I'm gonna try it too. and I threw it off the cliff and I was. like. more of this like more of this like I. want this thing where you just live and. it is what it is and less like anxiety. stress how am I gonna make money off. this and and I it's just they're so. happy and look I spent a lot a lot of. time with them and I go back as much as.

I can. um. so yeah to to. to see them like. you know all the YouTubers that went out. there and I'm like oh there's there's a. Shawnee and and Nona and gonkida and I'm. like [ __ ] they're like many celebrities. now. um. I mean. I don't know like I feel like every time. I go back to Africa whether it's like. Congo or Tanzania which are like two.

completely different you know. um. I remember when I went to the Congo the. first time I was 19 18 to 1995. that was. when you filmed that thing for vice when. you're looking for no that's the first. time I went is when I went to look for. the Dinosaur by myself and then Vice saw. that I wrote an article about that and. they sent me back like 10 years later. when I was 20. 25 or something really but I remember. finding a missionary deep deep deep in.

the jungle and he's like bro you think. you're the first one I was like what do. you mean he's like you think you're the. first like lost soul that's come here. looking for dinosaurs and I'm like. I'm like I'm not he's like he's like. I've been here for 20 years like living. with these people like. every five years a weirdo like you comes. through. and do you think you're really looking. for the dinosaur and I'm like yeah I'm. looking for a dinosaur he's like no. you're looking for something else you're. either running from something else or. you're looking for some kind of meaning.

in your life that you can't find so this. is you've pushed yourself to to this you. know. and I'm like [ __ ] dude you trying to get. deep with me bro so. um so yeah I mean I go back to Africa. and like. it's hard for me to talk about this. stuff without like sounding cringe or. um. people. [Music]. um. I don't know it's like let's look at.

life. um as a video game right like as someone. who's like heavily heavily addicted to. video games and like borns into a super. super Christian kind of background right. like. or if if you are in any kind of like. strict uh religion organized religion. growing up Jewish Catholic Muslim. whatever. um it's kind of like being born into a. video game because it's like it's it's. very binary right there's Heaven and. Hell especially if it's Christian and so. you have to live a certain way you got.

to get certain amount of points to have. everlasting love you know peace joy and. then if you don't. like yeah you're [ __ ] and you're okay. for how long how much before I can. respond like forever and you're like. wait that's a long that's a long time. you know and I'm like [ __ ] man. um and so I I don't I don't subscribe to. any organized religion I I consider. myself a spiritual person but. like without making light or or trying.

to be disrespectful like. if the things that I tried to. um figure out like a like a game like a. video game was sex money power right. like as an artist. I had subscribed to the starving artist. like type right I was like Top Ramen. you know holes in your clothes like like. homeless like I was like that is what a. real artist is until I met a successful. artist until I.

I was like oh [ __ ] like you can have a. manager and an agent in an office and. like you can like not starve and. and I remember at that point I was in my. early 20s. I was like man people sure like talk. about money a lot right like it seems to. be like this thing that causes a lot of. problems in marriages and business and I. go. it doesn't. seem that hard to me as some and I'm. saying this as a guy in my 20s that's. poor I'm like what if I just like try to. be as rich as possible for the next 10.

years or five years like what if that's. my singular Focus. and so. I did it and it you know it was a lot of. work but like the video game for of. money is over for me now right like I. like at every industry gambling the. stock market. um. like even like people go oh that's like. this Korean Force Gump and he just he. was like this. um like this homeless guy that like that. got lucky with Facebook I'm like that. was like a lot of work to make that.

happen you know. um and I was already kind of wealthy. when I when I made that deal but people. like to tell that story so I made. millions of dollars gambling I made. millions of dollars with my art I made. millions of dollars with Facebook and. it was a lot of hard work but I'm like. it's kind of if I wanted to. you tell me how cringe I sounded and. I'll just stop but I'm like it's not. gonna be that hard for me to become a. billionaire at a certain level right.

like I've amassed hundreds of millions. I'm like if that's my goal now if that's. my video game and then I know. billionaires I mean Sean Parker and Mark. being the most but I know tons of like. secret billionaires right and I go I. don't want any of their lives I don't. want I don't want any like it's just. money you don't have to have their life. right to have money. right and you don't have to think about. money if you have it right the problem. with money is people become obsessed. with it because it's so difficult to. attain and there's so much societal.

value right put on being wealthy right. that it becomes the thing instead of a. thing I mean I have I have a friend that. has like hundreds of billions of dollars. and hundreds of hundreds of billions. like one of the you know I have one too. yeah and you you know how weird those. guys are right we're guys. and and I'm pretty close with them he's. not just like a you know and I said. we're having dinner and I was like.

feeling confident. I was like give me one he's like what I. was like give me one one billion and. he's like I don't understand yeah I was. like give me one billion he's like. I was like [ __ ] you know I don't. need it like you know I'm not gonna go. buy cars and houses he's like what do. you wanna what do you want to do with. that he's like. Dave I don't know if you know how money. works you don't just go up to someone. and ask them for a billion I go. [ __ ] I just did and he's like. well do you have a plan are you gonna. show me charts and graphs I was like no.

it's all going to be Instinct I will. take that 1 billion and he's like dude. you got to come to me with like I'm not. saying no but you got to have a better. you know you gotta you gotta you gotta. have like how are you gonna go I promise. you I will spend it like like the most. irresponsible possible like it'll be. like exactly because most of these. people that have billions are like. Geniuses and they spent everything is. down to a fraction and they they just. grind and crunch numbers in their brain. and that's not how I think I think very. abstract I think and I go I'm gonna do.

stuff that on paper makes absolutely no. sense and I promise you I will change. the planet with that money like I'm. gonna do [ __ ] that and then he was like. he was he didn't say no but he was. thinking it over and he's like dude. there's like there's no way like my. money guys are gonna do this and then I. sat there and I thought about it because. money is power I was like dude I don't. I don't want that responsibility and. ultimately he was like ah no and I was. like thank you so just a wild thought. yeah spontaneous yeah if he had given it. to me he would have he would have [ __ ] I.

would have been like those weird people. I was like I don't want to touch that I. don't want to tried it out for a while. right you would have tried it out for a. while and then you would have gone back. to being you right and then so. so that has that game of that video game. of money has no no. um it's not fun for me anymore because. I've I've so years ago like 2009 was my. last art show where I actually sold. stuff for money and uh and I didn't feel. good it was like.

the my gallery Steve lazarides is like. banksies banksy's uh guy and he's like. Joe like you're on fire Street Art's on. fire right now like what do you want to. do I go it's gonna be in La it has to be. in La it has to be on Rodeo Drive like. it has to be on the most expensive. Street in the world and I want like. every celebrity there and like you know. and so. it did it happened it was like it was a. show in Beverly Hills all the. celebrities came all the fancy people. came I sold all the art and the next day.

I didn't feel any different and and then. at that point the artist gets. objectified to like just I got a. Basquiat I gotta Cho I got a baby and. I'm like I'm like the guy that's buying. my art that can afford it he doesn't. care about the art he just wants to like. it's a dick contest right he just wants. to show off like hey I gotta show and. I'm like. I'm pretty sure that's not what the. universe wants for me to like just make. expensive stuff. um so at that point I told my manager.

and everyone I work with I'm like. everything now is free like painting. with kids painting with guys just out of. jail painting with at-risk youth murals. Museum anything where it's free that's. what I'm about I'm not you know or if I. like like someone I'll just trade or. give it to them but I'm not selling [ __ ]. anymore so that kind of like ended like. you know and then I had uh Finance guys. and everything about wealth management. is about how to preserve wealth and make. more money and I go. uh let's do like a Monte Carlo.

simulation and figure out when I'm gonna. die by my lifestyle of How I Live and. let's get it down so that I have zero by. the time I'm done like I wanna and. they're like. so every business decision I've made. since I've made that decision is I just. lose money I just lose money and then. um the video game of sex which I wasn't. very good at is age 0 to 30. I'd been. with. five six maybe seven girls like and they.

were all like long-term kind of. relationships there was no like. one-night stands and then. at that point like 29 30 I was like. I'm really not good at this like I don't. got any game I'm not and. um. like the same way. if you saw me in my 20s as like a street. urchin like Street kid and he's like I'm. gonna be the richest artist in the world. you'd be like you know what the odds of. that happening are like it's it's.

ridiculous in the same way and like not. to sound vulgar or you know objectify. women but that's what I did at that age. I was young and I was like. um I'm tired of the Asians or like. sexless small dick you know the the math. nerd like I want to [ __ ] the most amount. of women as possible and that was even. more ridiculous than me saying I want to. be the richest artist and then. and then I just went on a tear for a. decade right like I just it was awkward.

at first and then. um like a video game at the end a. combination of like. like a comedian working out their. material right. and with the oncoming social media and. all the you know internet stuff I could. figure out. on the dates I've been on which material. killed like what what did I say to make. what girl laugh and you know and and I. would have all those like a crazy person. like in my notes folders and I could say.

the perfect combination of words to make. a girl laugh or like so using everything. at my dis anything like money uh uh you. know fun a charm like jokes uh Power. like I'll get you on this thing or like. just cueing in on what is it that you. want and I can get you that and. you know I was sleeping with multiple. women a day and I was like this. like you would never believe.

I okay not you I would never believe. what I was doing like I was every night. tens tens tens like Victoria's Secret. models A-list celebrities just like I. was like whoa whoa whoa and. you know I got to the point where I was. like I wasn't. my friends in a debate of they're like. you're you were like a week away from. sucking dick and I was like I was like. it's probably like more like two days. away because it just gets there right. like I was just like in rooms like. having threesomes group sex and I was.

like. I'm an artist I should you know and my. parents were convinced I was like I was. in a car uh going to an art show uh with. my parents in Mexico City. and my mom you know she's like. completely invested in my career and. she's like hey you know um Andy Warhol. used to do like 10 20 push-ups and then. his mom would give him like a Snicker. bar and I was like that's an interesting. fact mom I didn't know that and he was. gay and I was like oh okay cool you know. Leonardo da Vinci when he used to go out.

like he would no one would know he's an. artist he wouldn't have like a speck of. paint on him and I was like oh I didn't. know that Ma and he was gay and I was. like what what where's this going and. then my dad's in the front driving he's. like he's not gay I told you he's not. gay and my mom's like you know we're. Christian and you know but we know that. you're an artist and we know you haven't. brought a woman home in like 10 years. um so just it's okay you could come out. of the closet and I was like and I was. like I I like I love being gay so much.

like I I'm not like I just I almost wish. I was right like I. when I play like Dungeons and Dragons or. a role-playing game or or uh RPG like. video game or. anytime I act or do anything that's like. online or like a game I always want to. be a gay guy like I just love it I love. that feeling I want to play gay guys if. you know and but I just don't love dick. I want to I want to love it but I just.

why do you want to I I just like part of. it is like I my shame makes me Shameless. and like I like it when it hurts kind of. thing like. I just. I got close where there was a. transsexual woman I think her name was. ever like her penis was right here and I. was like it's right there I should just. like at least lick it or touch it at. least just to say I tried it and I could. say I didn't like it or I did like it. but I just couldn't I was like. I was so bored not of just [ __ ] or.

women or whatever I just was bored of. the Endeavor of that and then. and then you know you meet people and. everyone has their game like Hollywood. people like I could get that Emmy or. that Oscar or. you know and so. I I like picked the game I want to play. money pout and then it's like I sit here. and the thing that I learned the number. one important lesson from gambling is. get out while you're ahead is like I. love how much money I have right now. like it's the perfect amount I love.

that. um like I have no regrets like I've had. sex with so many different women that. like I'm just I don't need that anymore. I'm so I could be a monk for the rest of. my life if I want to you know like and. so that there's only one final. Quest and that's the spiritual Quest. right and that's where like people's. issue like the answer is love and it's. like it is right and like like. um. like there will be [ __ ] there's [ __ ].

that we talked about before we start. recording that we can't and then there. will be [ __ ] that we talk about later. and. and we live in this world now where it's. like it's a crazy world right and the. answer is love and everyone says it and. it's in movies and it's in books but. it's what does that path look like and. so. I go towards where I feel that and. I feel that in Africa when I go to. Africa I feel that like in my soul to my. bones and you know I look like this in.

Austin no one judges me like you would. think going to Africa the places I go. where there's no Asians that they would. say [ __ ] but they don't they just accept. me they call me brother they take me in. they show me their lives and they're. like you're just part of our tribe now. and I'm like it makes me want to cry you. know so. and the fact that you know I have this. beautiful relationship with you and you. know you let me talk about this stuff. and then those words get to. you know like I don't know Logan Paul. that guy calls me up right after the.

show he's like take me to Africa bro. take me I'm like uh okay you know like. and and it's just it's just a tremendous. thing and then you know we we made this. film and it's. you know it's. it's like the best documentary I've ever. seen so if anyone like uh wants to see a. trailer or it's we are hodza the maleka. foundation uh is it available the whole. thing. like. here's my it's done like it's done it's.

like I'll send you a link if you want to. watch it like it's amazing but I I'm I'm. it's like um last last time I came on. here I had made a TV show like I do. everything backwards right like. like some some like the normal way to. get a show on and this I definitely want. to ask you about this the normal way you. get a show on TV is you pitch it right. you come up with an idea but like. things don't. cost that much anymore I mean I'm.

speaking from a rich girl so I know what. that sounds like but compared to what it. used to cost right like you don't if you. have a nice camera and you got a good. editing thing like. much cheaper like the the movie that. just won the Oscar everything everywhere. all at once is like my favorite movie it. had like six guys doing the the special. effects and then you have you know Top. Gun Not Top Gun but like all these other. movies that have like when you see the. credits at the end it's like thousands. of like Korean names and you're like so. you can do things relatively cheaply.

compared right so I made the show on FX. called The Cho show and I made it. exactly the way I want and. and um you know. like some you know whatever something. got cut there was some notes. and that's where I get stuck a lot of. times right because. no one tells me what to do when I paint. I could do whatever the [ __ ] I want but. when it comes to Media. there's a bigger audience people are.

more sensitive people can get triggered. this and that so a lot of decisions made. in Hollywood are fear-based decisions. and I don't I don't live my life that. way yeah well they're platform-based. decisions right so the problem is you're. an artist but the people that distribute. the stuff are not artists right they're. Executives and money people right and. all those money people they look at you. and they go well David show is very. popular he's very eccentric he might. this might work we might be able to make. money and then they start thinking about. new cars they're gonna buy and new.

houses they're gonna buy they don't. think about it the way you think about. it so the problem with being in business. with people like that is business that's. the problem right you're just trying to. create something cool yeah you're like. because there is really like Atlanta is. a great show Romney's a great show. there's great shows there's great shows. but but then you're like at the end. they're still trying to sell. refrigerators with the advertising right. yeah but not always I mean generally. that's the case but there's a lot of. people that create those shows that. aren't trying to do that and then. someone else is pitching it to the.

network and someone's smart enough to. leave that [ __ ] guy alone right and a. lot of times it's just is because. something is just so successful like. South Park for instance right Comedy. Central 100 would [ __ ] South Park up if. they brought it to them right now they'd. be like what are you gonna do right you. hold on you're gonna shove Paris Hilton. up a gay teacher's ass on TV no right no. you can't do that right what are you. going to do you're gonna draw Muhammad. right are you going to have Muhammad. dressed as a teddy bear inside of a. Brinks truck right no no you can't do.

that but they're so big and they've been. around for so long they can get away. with it even in one of the most. restrictive and Goofy climates in in. media so they they've become big enough. so they could do that so it's it has to. be someone you know whoever it is where. they just leave you the [ __ ] alone and. that's very very rare but. if you just want to distribute something. on YouTube you can kind of do whatever. the [ __ ] you want I mean make something. pretty incredible it's it's I just.

helped like produce and like I was the. cameraman so it's not my film but I'm. like. I I'm gonna have to talk to you about. this because it's like I want people to. see it because it's all the proceeds. we're gonna donate back to the to the. hanza but it's like. like Paco ratata who's like the best you. know he I met him he's in the. Philippines he made the Cho show he's. the one that edited this thing and I. don't like it's not my movie I'm just.

like there to help there it is oh there. it is so the full-length feature film is. just oh that's just a trailer this is. just a trailer I'll send you the link to. it but like. yeah that's Nona he's so funny. you're not going to see any of the. that's Hannah Sparkman the filmmaker. wow she's yeah I mean. I was immediately drawn to them I'll put. it I'll put it like this y'all like what.

is America's appetite or or. um. to see. like. it's not you're not gonna see it in the. trailer but like. they catch a pregnant baboon right they. rip the belly open the baby the fetus of. the baboon falls out and it's second it. hits the ground 10 dogs tear it to. Pieces. then they love the protein or what's it. what's the brain made out of. like um.

brain matter but like it's that's I'm. not a nutrition that's like they know. like they instinctually they know that. has like fat or something in it so it's. like the delicacy like the the animal. like looks human then they tear through. it and like I go in a cave and it's. white right the brain is like white and. gray and I shine a flashlight because I. hear like I hear that noise and I turn. the flashlight on and I see like. like 10 dudes like fighting each other.

to like scoop as much brain and this. white [ __ ] all over their face and then. as they drop the skulls on the ground. there's a baby playing drums on the on. the baboon skull heads and I'm like this. is the CR this is the craziest [ __ ] I've. ever seen in my life and I don't know if. this is an X this is how people survive. yes but I don't know if that's just too. much I don't know if people I don't. think it's too much it's it's real and. you know. that that's how those people have been. surviving for a long time it's it's.

natural as bizarre as it seems it's. natural yeah because we have a really. hard time with people eating primates. right my friend Steve rinella he filmed. a show in South America and um. uh he was with this uh hunter-gatherer. tribe in South America I forget what the. name. yo see if we can find the name of the. tribe I think they're in Guyana and um. they killed a monkey and ate it and he. had some of the monkey and it was like. it's very it's you're very conflicted.

it's very strange well it. it's a primate I mean it's it's like. like imagine if you were in a different. world right and just imagine this and. you go to a place where there's a. friendly group of cannibals. and they have been hunting one specific. type of person maybe like pale skin. blonde people with the most delicious. yeah and they just chase down these.

you know these kind of savage looking. pale skinned blonde-haired people and. cook them and eat them they don't eat. anybody else you just eat pale bologna. albinos yeah like just and these people. were wild looking people they're wearing. like leaves over their dicks and they're. running around Barefoot so you can kind. of detach you know either with your Air. Force Ones on like I'm not the same as. them this is different you know this is. but this is kind of what it's like when. we're eating primates because we're.

eating our history well I mean so that's. what I'm saying the visuals yeah like. when they throw the when they throw the. monkey on the fire that's how they get. the fur off yeah and he's like this yeah. and it looks like the crucifix on fire. I'm like and you see the skull on like. yeah it looks human right and then there. was that um was it you that said or was. it ranella that said one of the things. that freaked him out was when the arrow. hitted me grabbed it with his hand oh. that was I think I told you that story. because it's like that's crazy we feel.

like part of the thing is this is the. only documentary I think I've never seen. it on YouTube where we filmed the baboon. hunt from beginning to end and it's like. monkeys running [ __ ] you like he's like. that's like what he's screaming sounds. like [ __ ] you and then a dog gets his. nutsack and rips it off and then you're. running and you see the nutsack on the. ground and you're and I'm like what is. this and they're like keep that that's. nutritious that's that's like the prize. like the top hunter gets that I'm like. all right and then you're just running. and running and then like they they get. them and then the. um he's grabbing the arrow and the dogs.

are just ripping his stomach out and. he's like. oh my God it's like a oh my God but. baboons are so weird too because they're. almost like a like a cross between a. primate and a dog like to have that long. face yeah like almost like a wolf's face. yeah I mean when their teeth are bared. it's they're wild they're looking. creature and like you know once again. like I only went on a few hunts I wasn't. like considered too manly manly because. I was just I couldn't hang yeah so I'm. back with the the women and children and.

like I'm teaching the kid how to play. drums on on like baboon skulls there's. like maggots coming out of the nose and. I'm like. hey there's like that kitchen if you're. playing those maggots and then she goes. and she just eats them and I'm like oh. my God there's there's nutrition in that. too I'm like. holy [ __ ] you know and then um there is. a a serial killer a Japanese serial. killer that wrote a book about which. human like he's like French people are. buttery chat like like did you you know. that you know what I'm talking about. Jamie there's like that dude.

and speaking as a cannibal myself like. I don't know. culturally I don't know if you did this. when your kids were born like there's. cultures that eat the placenta I did not. but I my uncle did this so am I cannibal. if I eat the placenta I mean yeah well. sort of. yeah yeah and then he talks about like. how different races taste different that. guy goes on TV and jokes around about. praise pretends to bite people like he. he killed someone and ate them right. yeah a lot he like he ate like two.

French girls I think I don't know I just. how was he out on the street he killed. his friend Renee heart heart develt and. ate her remains yet he's free to walk. the streets to this day like how is that. possible do they just have different. ways of Prosecuting people in Japan and. I mean you know he's reformed are you. gonna say he's reformed Psychiatric. Hospital loophole oh loophole Jesus. Christ though dude I mean that that is a. crazy situation so killed a woman and.

ate her and he's just wandering around. in a softcore porn where he reenacts and. bites actors oh Jesus Christ. so yeah I mean look at this and. throughout his life he's been chillingly. unrepentant yeah when he discusses his. crime it's as if he believes it's the. most natural thing in the world and he. plans to do it again Jesus Christ man he. wrote manga about it Jesus Christ that. guy's wandering around saying he's going. to do it again well OJ's walking around. but OJ lies at least I know that's good.

um um but but yeah if we were all hungry. we would all do the same thing I ate my. wife's placenta and then like. I don't know it's the jury's out whether. it's actually does anything but we've. been doing it as humans for like. thousands of years so any of my friends. whose wives get pregnant I go hey if you. guys are gonna throw it out I'll take it. so I have a freezer full of human. placenta and I keeping this guy I go if. my friend's wife is like Indian you know. is it like have a different flavor than.

if it's a white person or if it's a. Korean person or a black person and um. yeah I mean that's just I don't know. like. crime scene of uh Jamie come on bro oh. my God this is meal dude please take. that away take that away I don't need to. look at plates of human flesh. [ __ ] I mean you've been you've been to. my there's a giant difference between. that and someone who obviously who's.

hunting a primate for food right but um. there's just a thing that we have where. it's closer to that than like eating a. fish like eating a fish is very far. removed from us like people don't even. mind if you show photos well the thing. is. in this particular area with. specifically the hatsa it is baboon. because that's all that's left yeah like. when I I think I told you the last time. the oldest guy in that Village is like. we used to kill every elephants cheetahs. lion everything but they're just Alex. like close to extinction now that that's.

the last of us that's there and it's. totally like we're in a cave they're in. a cave yeah they run like this we run. like this like it's [ __ ] bizarre it's. really hard when you're talking about. this because I don't see a way for that. culture out as as uh humans expand. well I'm not going to pretend like I. have the answer to it but even when we. go there we let them decide right we're. like we raise this money I I.

um you know I work with the maleka. foundation or even this movie if it. makes money we're gonna we don't go this. is what you should be doing like they're. we're sending them those kids are like. we want to go to school to get educated. so that we can like use words and like. there's one guy named Shawnee and he's. like did I tell you this last time. probably but it's okay he's like the. only like some white lady took an. interest in him so this is straight up. Crocodile Dundee like he is like he can. like run up a tree and kill a squirrel.

with his like rip his head off and eat. it but he's the only one that went to. law school so he speaks Swahili hazabe. um English right so he can wear like a. suit and tie and then still have like. the hanza headband and he's the only one. that um has ever as far as I know that. was able to get all the proper paperwork. to to leave to come to the US so he. stayed at my house when he came and I. got him a shrimp I took him to like. every like insane restaurant he'd never.

been in a swimming pool he he swam in my. pool for like seven hours. he was like trying to drink the chlorine. I was like dude don't drink that I took. him to Fogo de Chao and he was like. leave the sword you know they brought. out the shrimp cocktail and he was like. oh you guys eat scorpion i'm like bro. that's not score it was like everything. everywhere I took him he would eat it. with his hands like at these like. gourmet restaurants and he's like like. grease is just going down his arm and it. was like he he had like the best time. but he's like I'm so glad I went to law.

school so now I have the tools to go. fight for my people and I don't know. what the answer is but yeah it's amazing. it's like that's an amazing Story how. alien must it be to a person to see an. entire pool filled with water that they. can't drink dude these people are. drinking out of Puddles. going up the escalator like yeah they're. gonna show these people drinking out. yeah puddles yeah and imagine they're. looking at this Crystal Clear water and. they can't drink it you're telling them. they can't drink it right what are we.

doing with chlorine how bad is that Chef. for your skin dude that's the worst man. can't be is chlorine bad for you like. chlorine from the pool. I don't how could it be that's why I. have the rich guy pull now the. salt water no it's the next one. oxygenated oh [ __ ] it's fancy really how. do they do that. dude I don't [ __ ] like I go to another. Rich guy's house and I say oh yeah and. they go oh you have chlorine dude you. got to get a song okay I'll just do. whatever you tell me they go we got the.

salt water pool and then I go to another. Rich guy's house and they go uh I went. to see his place and she's like oh I. have the oxygenated pool I'm like all. right give me his number so it's like uh. it's like if if. the whole system the power grid. everything goes down it's you could. drink out of that pool there's no. chlorine in it that's awesome. um I think the best water that feels. like like ocean water feels the best. yeah like when you swim in ocean water.

there's something about ocean water. where it's it's not just water it feels. alive it feels like you're you're. dipping into an ecosystem you're not in. a Petri dish like a swimming pool feels. like a pea tree you ever snort it snort. yeah some water yeah like uh what do you. think the answer to that question I. don't know like but you. I mean accidentally yeah I've got it up. my nose accidentally but I didn't snort. it for effect though I'm not trying to. do it like but like uh there was you. know when I meet old healthy people I. always ask them like what's your secret.

and he said I snort salt water like when. I go swimming oh and it takes a little. bit in his hand and he swims and he goes. and it goes It goes it burns like this. and he goes and this guy swears by it. he's like I [ __ ] love it I'm like all. right you know so I tried it it did burn. well isn't that a lot like a Neti Pot. like yeah people do do that to clean. their nose out right yeah I read about. someone who had like this might be. propaganda this might be against the. Neti Pot industry but there was uh. someone was using a Yeti pot and they.

got a brain. um some sort of a parasite. and look there's always there's always. going to be like one right there's. always going to be we should live in. fear that's what I'm saying we should. just live in fear I snort salt water I. don't know Seattle is it real yeah. what is it so someone in Seattle what. did they just snort a man dies of a. brain eating amoeba possibly from. rinsing his sinuses with tap water. this one is in Florida oh that's in.

Florida so there's more than one you. heard Stevo's bit about this right. no but if that [ __ ] gets in your brain. from tap water like what about when you. swallow it all right you saw you have to. boil it you saw the odds of drinking the. brown Water right yes it's not that. water has like cow poop in it and like. it's it's disgusting right uh when I. when I met Stevo he's like when his. family traveled a lot when he was. younger and he said when he goes to. other countries they always tell you. don't drink the water in Mexico don't. drink I need to always do it and so he'd. get like crazy diarrhea get sick but now.

he says he has the most insane like gut. biome and he oh yeah and he never gets. sick now which like he seems like he. should be dead and he isn't and so the. hods have a very similar thing with them. they have an insane micro gut biome like. like the most diverse ever so by like if. I drink that [ __ ] that brown Water I'd. be dead yeah I'd be [ __ ] you know do. you know Joel Salton is Joel saliton is. um he's uh one of those guys who's um he.

he does these Farms where all the. animals on the phone it's called. polyface Farms all the animal on the. farms they all work together it's like. it's called regenerative agriculture. yeah so there's no pesticides there's no. herbicides and it's all just about. moving the animals around and having. them and he drinks out of the cattle. those [ __ ] buckets where the cows. drink out of those long broth the trough. yeah he drinks the water out of that for. his own gut biome.

all right so okay this is you're the. perfect guy to you know you know I'm uh. like you've offered to give me on it. [ __ ] but I just buy all of that stuff. anyways like in the same way with the. oxygen oxygenated pool there's like. you live a life very similar to mine. where sometimes we meet people and they. go hey man if I had your money this is. what I would do right they'd tell you. what they would do right so. at one point I'm sitting there winning. the video game of money and I go you've.

been you you came to my warehouse years. ago right like yeah I'm like. I had this like 20 30 000 dope spot. downtown but uh but I was like dude I. was like damn this is how famous artists. should live this is [ __ ] badass it. was badass I was like yeah that's. because if I went over your house and it. was like Ikea furniture or some [ __ ] it. would be so boring you know but you. lived exactly how like I would hope that. you lived yeah and I loved it I bought. every car that I want I I just got. everything I wanted and I said there's. something that you know so as a rich guy.

I should have the best everything so. because I want to live you know the. longest so I Had State of the art I. think this is 15 years ago or more like. you're the first person to ever tell me. about float tank you're like here's my. float tank guy I had the float tank I. had the UV Spa I had everything I had. the ice bath all the [ __ ] I had this the. best the most expensive weights the. smoothie that I'm having every morning. is like a thousand dollar I don't know. if it's a thousand but it has placenta.

human placenta it has two eggs shell on. not washed banana banana sticker on. shell on shell on I saw Arnold. Schwarzenegger do it so. um banana peel on like a whole bitter. melon like the most disgusting Shake. ever like every single powder at arawan. that costs like a hundred dollars the. 300 like uh honey the Manuka honey uh. Siberian Cedar pine oil like every. single thing that someone says is good I.

it tastes like [ __ ] and I just down it. and I I have like the 600 trainer that. shows up to my house and I realize like. it was kind of like. I'm gonna live long and be healthy but. like it felt lonely I'm paying a guy to. be here. um and like the thing that I was missing. in my life was accountability because. there was no account like I'm like I. want a life where I have no. accountability I want to be like a kid I. want to be Robin Hood or a Peter Pan. forever and so people were like oh if.

money will keep you accountable if. you're paying someone 600 bucks an hour. like you're definitely gonna show up to. that appointment I'm like no I'm not. um so I found this guy this Rogue. trainer that like. my friend was like I know a guy and I. was like well what's this guy like is. the money thing's not gonna he's like he. hits you and I was like yeah he hits you. you got to sign a contract and stuff and. it's like are you okay. um because it this is and he only like. has like three clients and they're all. super ready he's like you will do you.

will get into shape but you have to sign. this thing that says I'm allowed to come. over to your house you have to give me a. key to your house oh my God and so like. and for someone like me who likes pain. I'm like I don't give a [ __ ] you know. and so I missed my first like I missed. dude not exaggerating I missed it by two. minutes like I had to be there he runs. up the stairs and my mom happened to be. stopping at my house to drop off kimchi. so she sees a guy a huge guy Russian guy. run up the stairs and start pummeling my. sternum and she screams like ah and I.

was like oh my God I pay this guy to do. this oh my God and that scared the [ __ ]. out of me like my mom like almost had a. heart attack like Mom Mom I'm sorry and. then I sat there and I was like this. this is this ain't it like this ain't it. you know. so. so and I don't want to give away my. exact location but like currently my. you know this this might be going. further the complete opposite side of. the spectrum but I go to the like one of.

the shittiest 24-hour fitnesses in La I. mean there's a guy popping zits and. shaving his neck and wiping his ass in. the sink there's always a homeless guy. in the sauna doing push-ups like it. feels like a lot of homeless guys have. the pass to this one and they just go. there to like shower there's always. someone about to like looking like like. they're about to give a [ __ ] in the. showers or like in the sauna and once in. a while I get recognized or whatever but.

I go there with my friends it's communal. like I don't know and I'm like I don't. know if this is it either so it's like. it's either running top speed to hunt. food with the hanza the super super rich. guy program on this side the kind of. like you know showering with homeless. guys and getting handjobs at the 24 Hour. Fitness and I'm like I I want you know. like I wanna I have a family now I want. to like have a healthy life where I live. but just I haven't found.

the thing that speaks to me the most is. the move in Africa right now maybe not. Africa Africa but like. close by where I get to. be in like a not populated area where. I'm closer to Nature and um. I mean like. once again dude only here for only been. here for like one one night already but. Austin is just I mean it's just amazing. like this is we should probably stop. talking about too many people are moving.

there yeah and I don't know if they want. people that look like this. it's a it's a very it's interesting one. of the what the thing they always say. about Austin is Keep Austin blue and. surrounded so like what keeps it in. check because it's surrounded by real. Texas like real country Texas but Austin. the city is very Progressive super. Progressive and I think it's a perfect. combination because I think the two of. them balance each other out and keeps. everything in check Progressive people.

in Austin are much more reasonable than. a lot of the progressive people that I. met in La it's just a generalization for. sure it's definitely uh they're Texas. people right you know it's like there's. a there's a deeply rooted Independence. in this state that came from how. difficult it was to settle yeah like. this there's this [ __ ] amazing book. um the uh Comanche book what is the name. of it Jamie. Empire the summer Moon Empire of the.

summer moon it's [ __ ] insane book. about the Comanche who lived here it's. one of the best books I've ever read. I've read it twice all right I'm gonna. check that out it's really good dude and. it's all about the history of this state. was so difficult to conquer because the. Comanches were they were the best at. riding horses and they were best at. raising horses out of all the Native. American tribes and so they had these. massive stockpiles of horses and they.

would ride on the horses and shoot. arrows before the guys could get off a. second shot because the whole thing. about old school guns like muskets. exactly it kept the arrows in their. fingers and they would fire them off one. at a time I can't do that no but they. they yeah that's crazy [ __ ] but they. could do there's a dude that does it. though Lars Anderson guy faster than. shooting a gun yeah check out this guy. there's this guy we've had him on before. but he's actually bringing back back.

these old methods that people actually. forgot mostly based on artwork like he's. looking at these artist Renditions of. guys with multiple arrows in their. fingers whoa. yeah so. that was about Empire of the summer moon. right all right I got it it's in there. but when you see him do it it's really. impressive oh [ __ ]. watch how you can do this oh [ __ ] oh. [ __ ] yeah so he's got them all stacked.

up there and he's just lining them all. up one at a time all right I got it I'm. insane when I come to Austin I'm gonna. learn how to shoot like that I'm gonna. like take you'd have to meet that guy I. don't think he's in Austin I only think. he's American right isn't he somewhere. I'll take years to learn to do this and. then I'll I'll bring this skill to the. hanza oh yeah if they knew it well if. you just brought them [ __ ] compound. bows they would be infinitely more. successful but my my what I was saying. before about them though was that if uh.

did you see that last shot he was like. yeah no he does crazy [ __ ] he was like. on the horse but look how he can run and. and do this it's really impressive. see look he's he's on a horse and he's. and his his face is just so monotone. he's just like they think that's how the. Mongols did it too. and there's even uh some really ancient. photos uh of uh hieroglyphs in Egypt. that depict arrows that are held in a. similar way so they think I mean it. makes sense I mean he's it's not like.

he's the first guy to figure this out. I mean pretty interesting [ __ ] Austin. like I don't know any of that history. but like it is definitely I've never. been to a place like this that's like. surrounded by all this like red parts of. Texas it's just that's where the balance. comes in it feels loving like the people. like it like just in like the lady at. the hotel in the restaurant like. everyone's super nice. you're not that landlocked because you. could like what's two hours away to to. the to the water right.

um I don't know it's like I'm I'm. feeling it you know as long as like. there's some place where I could get. kimchi I'm good I'm sure there is. um dude I have a question for you. that you're the perfect person to ask. for this because uh people that don't. know this about Joe Rogan used to be an. actor well I've done some acting I. wasn't very good at it I was good at. sitcom acting I never did like real. action no you went you went hard like on. on news radio and like but that's sitcom.

acting is not hard man it's like the. hardest [ __ ] is like Daniel Day-Lewis. Joaquin Phoenix actor okay that's hard. acting but like just playing a guy and. saying a funny line so you don't act. anymore no no no no and like there's no. project that you would come back to I'm. not interested in that it's just like or. anybody it's not a negative on acting I. mean I appreciate I love movies you know. I love great acting I just don't like to. do it. it's just too many hours it takes too.

long it's not what I'm interested in you. know I'm more interested in podcasts and. stand up and I don't have enough time to. do anything else other than UFC. commentary so there's no project you can. think I'm just not interested if it was. like a one-day shoot it's great wow yeah. it's I just there's other I don't want. to play baseball either. it doesn't mean I hate baseball I'm just. not interested okay well like I don't. want to do anything. like just because it's a job.

so last time I came on here I was like. or maybe in private I've always told you. like a little less with the UFC stuff. and maybe like try to get in the. painting and you're like I'm not. interested in painting unless you know I. don't do anything halfway like I want to. go in go in right yeah and. like I can't even remember the last time. I was on Howard Stern but it was like 15. years ago or something and at the either. I said it on the show or after it ended. I was like because I know he's.

interested in chess and photography and. whatever I just was like he he has like. the soul of an artist and I was like you. should get into painting and and now. like it's sad for me because I feel like. he should have also got out while he was. head like whenever his contract and then. he should have stopped he's kind of. feeling to me like my dad talking at me. or down to me now he does a little bit. of that but his water that's a natural. thing that happens to Old Men though. Jamie if you could find out they're. gonna be doing that too oh definitely I. hope not though I want to be talking.

down to people soon I think I think I. think you'll be more accepting of being. talked down to if someone looks like. this yes but his watercolors his. watercolors. he just like paints all the time now and. they're better than most like artists. I'm sure like like he's just like. brilliant guy he like went into it hard. you know like that guy is responsible. for all this if it wasn't for him if it. wasn't I mean we got ahead of the game. yeah because of the Howard Stern Show.

that's very good you know what is recent. yeah that's what I'm saying like so how. long did he take to be able to paint. like that I think he just dedicated like. 10 years to it you know and he's like. and it's probably honestly probably why. he's not that good at broadcasting. anymore because he's interested yeah. because he's like and you could tell. like that's a real odd it's really good. right it's really good like perspective. I mean shading I offered him art lessons. wow after I did his show I was like hey. dude if you ever want to like and he's. like I'm I'm not even close to that it's.

great you might be right about that. maybe that's like his primary focus now. so I always remember me it's also. probably like. that's why he doesn't go into town I. mean look at that [ __ ] dude he's like. and those things are tiny those are like. with those tiny brushes and it's really. incredible. it's really incredible but of course it. just like makes sense like when I heard. that he was like really into chess right. he's like oh of course he is that makes. sense it's like whatever led him to.

figure out how to be the biggest. broadcaster in history that kind of. energy could apply to anything and. you're seeing that if we're doing that. yeah then you it's like that took away. from you know you only have certain. hours in the day right and like that's. not like a casual like he's going for it. right like that's like he could sell. those in a gallery right I wonder if. they're complimentary though because. some things I think other activities are. complementary it's like cross training. that's that's no talking like he that. that's like quiet nobody like silent.

that's meditation but my thought was I. wonder if that stimulates the mind in a. way that might actually make him better. at talking to people because oftentimes. that does happen like when you get good. at another thing like you get better at. certain aspects of other things that you. do that are like correlated so can I. tell you what happened and I would love. your feedback on it yes so I'm I'm kind. of like I didn't realize it but I'm kind. of like that too right and people just. being born and raised in Los Angeles. people go are you interested in making.

movies or or being an actor and I I. never really put it together but. I was like why would I want to be an. actor like the only rules available for. Asians are Kung Fu Master which I'm not. I'm not that good at martial arts I am. an MMA artist mixed media artist but not. that kind of artist and I'm not. you know what is it it's either like. nerd like math geek waiter like it's. just I've never seen an Asian guy be the. lead or something so it just like I.

killed the own dream for me you know in. the same way. when I give art lessons or play with. like uh someone who's not an artist the. first thing they always throw out is. like I'm not I suck I suck and I go why. did you do that why did you just like do. that to yourself before we even started. yeah and it's because we do that from. the day that we can talk and walk right. well someone don't do that to express. humility out of respect for what you do. because like people say things like that. just because they're a fan like if you. asked me if I could draw I'd go I could.

draw pretty good but I kind of suck. compared to you that would say okay. that's that's like that's why they're. doing it they just don't want you to. think like I'm a [ __ ] artist too bro. you know like they don't want to come. off douchey they're fans I hear you that. and that's fair but. um don't you think at a young age if. they see like a kid being strong or. doing something athletic they go oh he's. gonna be a football player and you. already start getting boxed into you. could like if I start drawing and stuff. they're like oh he's going to be an. artist so in the same way I killed my. own dream because I was like there's.

just nothing like if I in my own the. movie in my ahead I am Indiana Jones I'm. I'm the [ __ ] Wolverine I'm Batman I'm. all those things but I I wouldn't be I. wouldn't have that role if I got it so I. just killed the dream for myself in the. same way. um I. you know I grew up in a lot of different. mixed neighborhoods and so my dad who's. a great athlete he plays every sport. would take us to like the playground and. there would be all these black guys. playing basketball and he you know he.

could sink it from anywhere in the court. and he'd give us the ball and go now. your turn. keep in mind I've never thrown a. basketball so it's like the second I. miss ah Mr Miyagi you know it's like. it's not a safe place to make accidents. and whatever now at age 46 sometimes I. go with my art C friends early in the. morning like 5 30. we all have kids now. so we go early early in the morning. before anyone's awake and because the. the threat of being made fun of is gone. I'm like I'm pretty good at I'm like I. can [ __ ] throw a spiral like I can.

catch a I'm like oh I'm. holy [ __ ] and then same thing like when. I work with people where the no one they. know that they're not being watched or. whatever right I'm like oh [ __ ] like. you're really good at drawing you know. yeah that holds people back with. everything that holds people back. performance anxiety holds people back in. fights holds people back with comedy you. know so I wasn't trying like I'm like. you I'm like I'm not trying to be an. actor or anything but during the um. every time I've been on TV it's just. either as myself or like a cartoonish.

exaggerated version of myself and so my. ego got a little bit inflated because it. was like thumbs up my hitchhiking show. or me going looking for a dinosaur or. you know uh going on Bourdain's show or. Dave Chang's show it's always just me. I'm not acting right and then um because. um I was doing all these like kind of. cooking uh Dave Chang you know him the. chef I don't know him personally yeah I. was doing this show Ugly delicious with. him on Netflix and Marielle the producer. of it is like do you want to be a food.

uh judge on like Top Chef and I was like. [ __ ] yeah like I want to go eat good. stuff and it was this Jonathan Gold. episode where he's the. you know he's like the best uh food. critic in L.A that had passed away so. this was like out of respect to him and. John Favreau was there and I don't and. um he's he has his own cooking show with. Roy Choi called the chef Show on Netflix. and. I had heard that he had just gotten the. Star Wars gig to do the Mandalorian and.

I have mixed feelings about how much uh. that I'm a grown man and I still go to. the comic book shop every Wednesday and. all that stuff but like I love superhero. stuff like I love Batman Spider-Man. Superman I love all that [ __ ] I love all. the Star Wars stuff even even though. most of it is all shitty now I still. love it so I told him. uh I don't know when I'm ever gonna meet. this guy again so as he you know we went. to Tacos 1988 and as he got in the car. and the valet pulls up I go hey good you. know I didn't want to be the Fanboy guy.

but I was like hey congratulations on. getting that Star Wars gig and he's like. oh yeah thanks Dave any of the guys. giving him his keys and he's about to. drive off and I go. yo put some [ __ ] street art in Star. Wars and he's like what and I was like. the alliance the Rebel Alliance the you. know like every time in history The. Great Wall Russia Vietnam it doesn't. matter anytime there's a war anywhere in. the world there's there's art rebellious. art right there's posters there's. graffiti of saying like [ __ ] the system.

[ __ ] the man down with the you know. whatever I'm like. in Star Wars you have like Nazi type. characters you have all this like. fighting and there's no there's no like. graffiti and he goes. you're right Dave that's a very good. point yeah and he goes you're right Dave. and you should do it and I had just had. my kid and stuff and he's like I'm like. dude I'm not trying to look for work. right now I'm just saying someone should. do that he goes you're right and it. should be you and I was like [ __ ] man so. I get this you know it was fun for me. and I went and I was like I went.

hardcore nerd I was like okay jaw was. are like this tall so the graffiti would. be like this and Luke Skywalker would. not be known on this side so I'm like. learning the arabesh language the Star. Wars language and I'm layering the. graffiti so it would be accurate like. I'm like going total nerd and and he. goes all right and he tries to pay me. and I go dude I haven't gotten a. paycheck in like 10 years like I can't I. don't want to get paid and the guy at. lucasfilm is like you don't want to get. paid like you're gonna get paid a lot of.

money for this I go I I don't I don't I. don't want to fill out taxes for this. [ __ ] like I don't work like I'm I'm. jobless and he goes you're the first. person that's ever denied a check from. Disney and I was like no I'm not and. then I go put me in coach he's like what. do you mean I'm like put me in like just. so I could tell my friends and [ __ ] that. I was in Star Wars. and and so eight hours of makeup eight. hours of [ __ ] me look at that [ __ ]. like [ __ ] Prosthetics you know. so. I have like.

I have one second of screen time that's. like a camera panning you know and I had. to do make and then you know they put. like paint Speckles like they made it. look like I was the guy that actually. did the graffiti and you know oh. so this is the first time I'm on TV. acting like not as me so I go home I. write a short story about my the. backstory of my character and I go oh. it's too boring for me to scream in. English I'm Gonna Learn haties Jabba the. Hutt's language so I'm I'm out there I. got five pages of dialogue like we're at.

a gambling rig we're um betting on. gomorian guards fighting so it's like a. fight scene and it's like [ __ ] em up. [ __ ] em up Chris like like all that and. I'm saying it. and like everyone's like. uh dude you're a [ __ ] extra that's in. here for one second and no one asked you. to learn Jabba the Hutt's language and. you know but I didn't know how to not go. hard you know with it and then um so did.

they tell you to not do it they didn't. they're like I'm so I'm like I'm the. extra hanging out there and I go hey. just like I know like you know this is. just me being me I'm like I'm not. trying to get more air time or whatever. but I did write a backstory of how I. ended up in a game I am a gambling. addict this is how I ended up at a. gamorian guard gambling thing and I give. it to John Favreau and uh and Dave. filoni who are like the the showrunners. and they're like um yeah we'll get right. on that Dave. [Laughter]. yeah so that's hilarious so I'm like wow.

I'm not like I went kind of all in like. I wasn't you know so anyways it was. enough I was like that was great then I. get a call one day from Ali Wong and. Steve Young at the same time they're on. this new show on Netflix called uh beef. from a24 and they say the same thing. they go Dave have you ever thought about. acting and I'm like like I'm like family. dude I'm like chilling trying to figure. out how to get to Africa like I'm not. trying to trying to do this and I go. what's the part and they're like well it.

would be filming in La it'd be for like. three months and you'd be playing an. angry Korean guy and I'm like I'm like. ah well is that is that how you guys see. me you know like I'm pretty I'm like. pretty chill you know like in my normal. life. like I'll I'll tell you all this [ __ ]. later but like I kicked my parents out. of. the Mansion I bought them because I. asked them a million times not to do. certain things and they didn't listen to. me and I was like I'm not like making. crazy requests it's just like I've.

learned what a boundary is and please. don't cross it and they did so this is. this is my real life right my real life. is. like my brother my my uh my family like. when they [ __ ] with me I go uh I'd ask. you like not to do that and if you do. that then I'm gonna have to remove like. that's my normal life but in this TV. show I'm like [ __ ] you like I'm like. waving my gun out like. and uh they're like the character's name. is Isaac Cho and I'm like that's not. that far of a stretch you know and um so. I go why don't you guys hire an actor.

like a real actor and they're like. there's all these people coming and. casting and they're like playing to be. like Asian gangster tough guy but you're. just an [ __ ] and I'm like I'm like. should I should I take an acting class. like I don't want to like you know Steve. Young's like Oscar nominated like Ali. Wong like they're like no they've just. come in and be yourself I'm like [ __ ]. you guys. so I come in and I thought they were. offering me the part so I come in and. it's an audition and I go I'm too. [ __ ] old for this [ __ ] like I'm too.

fragile to like like. make a distinction when you're having a. conversation how casual was this. conversation for you to come into a. movie oh man or a television show I mean. I I went in and I just like I want to do. a good job so I like I fully like. like I yeah but you did know it was an. audition I didn't I thought they were so. I thought they were asking me like can. you do this and I was like all right. [ __ ] it you know so I went in and I'm. like sitting next to the 10 other guys. that are actual actors and I'm like oh. I'm not gonna get this part you know and.

then I do my part and I'm like waiting. by the phone like I hope it validate me. and then uh they called me and they're. like you got the part I'm like oh [ __ ]. like I kind of like didn't want to want. to get it in the same way like do you. ever watch a Survivor yes so a lot of. younger a lot of people don't even know. it's still on there but it's been on. there for like 30 years it's crazy how. long it's been on and um yeah and then. they asked me um. to be on a Survivor offshoot called uh.

take it to the edge or be on the edge. and it's like all washed up celebr I. sound mean right now it was like it was. like a 70 year old ex supermodel and. like okay retired NFL players right and. I was the last one so I'm like what like. Stevo said no and I called Siva I was. like did they hit you up he's like yeah. I said no. and I was like I love Survivor this. ain't it but I should do this and uh. and and they were like please just and.

it was during the pandemic it was like. you compete with other celebrities and. the thing with this is there's no losers. everyone wins and we donate all the. money to charity and I was like and I. was like that it was the fattest I'd. ever been I ate so much Postmates during. the thing and my trainer or my manager. was like dude you gotta if you're gonna. do this I say don't do it but if you're. gonna do it like you're gonna be with. all these like washed up people like you. have to win. so then that's when I hired the the. hitting guy that's so I I did actually. get into pretty good shape and then. ultimately at the end I said no and then.

at a party I met Jeff Probst and I said. hey dude I almost did this show and he's. like oh I'm not actually not a part of. that but why don't you do the actual. Survivor I was like dude I'm [ __ ]. Super Rich No One's Gonna let me win. like get all the way to then he's like. we had Mike White we had another guy. that got like to the end and and I was. like all it would take is one of those. people to recognize who I am and then. like they're gonna like vote me out. immediately he's like dude we think you. have like the the right thing so I got. like I got into like the the best shape.

and you know it's obviously um nice. having Jeff uh bad for me but I mean. that interview process was insane they. have like therapist talking they want to. make sure that you're not going to hurt. someone or kill yourself on that island. right so it was like long and they got. to the very end and then at the very end. they're like can you do that thing that. like you remember when Chris Rock paid. like a million dollars to like delete. him throwing the uh [ __ ] I'm probably. [ __ ] him up right now but you. remember he threw like one of the worst.

uh first uh what do you call it a pitch. a pitch he threw one of the worst ones. and then now you can't find it anywhere. really I'm sure Jamie could find it is. that real I heard I had heard I don't. know if it's true but no one was worse. than Anthony fauci did you see his pitch. I'm sure it was like it was like like it. was hilarious. I mean it didn't even come close to. where it was supposed to go yeah and. it's in oh. that's Stan okay oh yeah you see that. Chris did you see how bad.

I'm like laughing at him I'm like yeah. all right so I guess I can still find it. um yeah it's just so. um [ __ ] why did I even bring that up. um oh yeah so they asked me they go. you're gonna you're gonna be on Survivor. but can you do that thing that the. celebrities do and pay like a million. dollars to like basically delete your. entire imprint on the internet and I was. like what and they're like there's so. much of your life that is just like not. appropriate for like and I was like.

and you know I sat there and I was like. it's enough. like like it's enough that I almost like. I know myself I'm like I would have won. I would have [ __ ] won Survivor I know. myself I know that sounds cocky but like. but survivors and it's entirely. dependent upon someone voting for you I. know but I I as this is the setup right. like as someone people are like oh how'd. you get into acting I'm like I've been a. gaslighter lying right con man Thief.

like sneaky dude like half my life like. I'm set up for this like I like you need. to but there's other people like you out. there that's why I'm always fascinated. by someone who thinks they're definitely. gonna win. well. look I only have my track record like. I'm like I thought I would I could have. tons of power. I'm sure you have a ton of confidence. and I'm sure you you believe that. wholeheartedly that you're gonna win but. there's other David chose out there. maybe not you exactly the same kind of.

[ __ ] I'm sure if you got on a. show with one of those guys you'd be. like God damn it well the one of the. things that that's like the biggest. benefit of meditation for me these days. is like. it's that that driving thing if it's not. enough like okay I did this now I got to. do this it's like it's like I'm enough. so. like. and I'm speaking my inner thoughts so. I'm sorry how cringy it sounds but like. there's nothing. I can't have right so I drive and I go. look at that insane house I'm like I.

could buy that look at that woman I'm. like I could get her like look at and so. just that like there's no nothing. physical or experience that I can't have. like I can have it that's why I keep. telling you that my last battle is the. spiritual one and so. that's why I fly coach that's why I sit. like that's why like I just do normal. [ __ ] that like could I fly private. everywhere could I stay at the nicest. hotels and nicest gyms and everything. and just kind of be like that's them and.

this is you know I waited an hour at. Terry blacks I'm sure like I could have. like called you and got to the front you. know like I I just. I'm just at peace with myself so the. fact that I could have been on Survivor. was enough for me and I didn't want to. be away from my family for that long. anyways. um yeah I couldn't imagine wanting to do. one of those shows I just love the any. show that's competitive that pushes you. to your life I'm sure it's fun you know. I'm sure it's fun just I'm the the time.

commitment yeah well I mean if I get. voted off right away it's like fine but. if you're all the way to the end that's. 90 days I think I could see someone like. you wanted to do it just for the. experience though I mean that's just. because it's a wild crazy thing to do. right and that's what that's why I would. have done it because I've been a. Survivor fan my whole life and you know. natural is that the longest running. reality game show it has to be. it has to be unless you count like The. Bachelor other game shows like regular. game shows.

um it's got to be the longest running. reality game show right. I mean that [ __ ] was on before Fear. Factor. I wonder what's longer there's a longer. 43 seasons in 23 years. I mean I would have killed that Phil. Fear Factor I would have ate the dick. the butthole everything I like there's. no part's not that hard the physical. stuff is hard the physical stuff would. have been hard for me it's hard for. everybody. um because it's like something all right. Fear Factor just the food I would have.

killed. like like we had one where uh they had. to hang onto a bar over like a lake yeah. so they're hanging underneath this. bridge yeah oh I saw that one women can. hang way longer than men can a lot of. women wow. yeah because there's not so much. emotionally or physically but probably. both but yeah they hang on to like. really shitty relationships they don't. have all the weight so if you're. carrying 200 pounds but she's only. carrying 120 pounds that 80 pounds makes.

a big difference with your hands. I would have I would have lost on that. part and then one on the baboon dick. part. so I said no to Survivor Beyond Beyond. the Edge whatever that show was called. and and now I was in like pretty good. shape because of the abusive Russian. trainer I had and. and uh and now I'm like you still got. that trainer no I just I couldn't take. it anymore it wasn't that well it's.

I want community. like I wanna like. I want to have fun right right like it's. like. I never I've never gotten Runners High. I've never gotten the only time I have. fun is like when I'm playing basketball. or football or soccer at 5 30 in the. morning with the Mist with my friends. yeah and then we can go for two three. hours and like I'm sweating I had a. great workout and it was like it was fun. like Dave I'm gonna pee and when I come. back I'm gonna talk you into doing Jiu. Jitsu we'll be right back okay.

oh wow and we're back and we're back. headphones changes it right yeah holy. [ __ ]. you hear it how other people hear it. yeah. um you would love it sexy voice thank. you you too thanks man. you would love Jiu Jitsu you're a super. competitive guy and it's an exciting fun. thing and it's an athletic thing you. just do it with uh the right people get. the right trainer you know get the right. group of guys there's a lot of really.

good gyms where they they really take. care of people that are beginners and. show them how to do it right and I could. trip anybody. trip them you're good at tripping I I um. Judo yeah my dad made me take Judo in a. you know there's a you know if you know. the history there's a little bit of. animosity there could be between. Japanese and Koreans and my dad set me. up on a full like Japanese Judo dojo and. Sawtelle in Los Angeles. and they did not take it easy on me and. it's like.

I'm kind of like I think a lot of people. are like this like with whatever. profession they're in they learn one. move really good and then they milk the. [ __ ] out of it yeah and I can [ __ ]. trip the [ __ ] out of anybody and I I was. so good at it and I added my twist to it. that it gave me like this insane. Cockiness where I thought I could beat. the [ __ ] out of anyone but I'm like what. do you do after the after the trip oh. [ __ ] I don't know and so I got my ass. kicked a lot about tripping people well. I mean during a fight I I would that. would be my move and I didn't have any. other moves after it's a great move if. you know how to trip the [ __ ] out of.

your stuff to it yeah that's sanchai. who's like one if not the greatest one. of the greatest muay thai fighters of. all time he's a master at tripping but. you got to be wearing clothes that's the. other thing. yeah I can't trip like shirtless dudes. oh okay. that makes big difference that's a. problem yeah he can't learn some. underhooks and overhooks that the. problem with the that was an issue in. the beginning days of the UFC when a lot. of guys went no ghee yeah they went to.

their to the ground game they were so. limited because they were so accustomed. to grabbing collars and grabbing pants. legs and grabbing sleeves all right if. I'm doing this [ __ ] in La where should I. go. um nogi for sure 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu I. get you set set up okay if you want to. do it in LA 100 if you want to do the. ghee what part of town is that. it's downtown oh perfect okay yeah it's. downtown okay that's where the. headquarters is there's like a hundred. and how many Tenth Planet jiu jitsu's.

are there. I want to say there's like at least a. hundred Affiliates all over the world. it's like it's like black belt like it's. like yeah oh yeah are you a black belt. yeah. all right yeah that's why I started I. have actually named it 10th Planet Jiu. Jitsu is my idea that's yours what does. it mean because we were talking about uh. it was me and Eddie Bravo and Eddie was. you know he just gotten back from. tapping out hoyler Gracie and Abu Dhabi. and you know Eddie's the best guy ever. it's my best friend he was.

when we uh went to Abu Dhabi and he. Tapped Out hoyler Grace it was one of. the most incredible things I've ever. seen in my life and he came back from. that. Machado gave him his black belt off of. his waist John Jacques tuck took it I. saw that video put it on Eddie and then. Eddie started uh this 10th Planet Jiu. Jitsu and the idea behind it was. use because in MMA you don't have the. ghee so use over Hooks and under Hooks.

and a lot of it is derived from what he. learned from Jacques Machado was. actually born with only one hand John. jog only has a thumb on his left hand so. his his Jiu Jitsu couldn't be all grip. based it had to be under Hooks and. overhooks so he transitioned very easily. to Abu Dhabi and he won a winning Abu. dhabi's the biggest nogi competition in. the world he wound up winning and. smoking people it was incredible to. watch so Eddie comes back. and Eddie decides to start this Jiu. Jitsu gym and we're joking around about. all the different names we're probably.

high as [ __ ] I imagine we're high as. [ __ ] and uh I said why don't you just. call it 10th Planet jiu jitsu. because it's like we were into Zechariah. sitchin back then you know Zechariah the. Sci-Fi guy no zecharias Hitchin was this. guy who wrote these books uh about a. planet called Nibiru and he was a guy. who supposedly and I'm not not 100 I. like this but it's fun I like this [ __ ]. he um he had transcribed the Sumerian.

text and he believed that the history of. the people from Sumer what they were. trying to relay was that human beings. were the product of accelerated. Evolution and that beings from a planet. called Nibiru that's on a 3600 year old. uh 3600 year elliptical course towards. the Earth I've been told this is. nonsense okay by people or cosmologists. okay which is another thing is nonsense. so I said the other day with talking to. Andrew Schultz that the moon doesn't. spin so because we only see one side of.

the moon we do only see one side of the. moon but it just spins perfectly with us. so that we only said. hey I'm in I'm I I love nonsense but. what it how I definitely was wrong like. it does spin right excuse me rotate. people don't like the term spin. someone's trying to explain this to me I. like spin class that it so it it rotates. at the exact same rate we do so we. always see the same side is that what it. takes for the moon to rotate once on its.

axis is equal to the time it takes for. the moon to orbit once around the earth. this keeps the same side of the moon. facing towards the Earth that's it. throughout the most so sorry for my. misinformation folks I kind of said it. after I said it I was like I think this. is off and then. yeah hey this this is zechariah's. hitching thing so anyway this was. zecharias Hitchin he wrote these books. called uh the I think it was the 12th. Planet was one of them and it was all. about these ancient Sumerians and one of.

the weirdest things about it is like. these people had these clay tablets that. had like a detailed map of the solar. system 6 000 years ago they carved it in. clay and they also had these giant. beings with like people with Tails. sitting on their lap and they had the. double helix of the DNA and he he. interpreted all this as this was some. sort of an ancient recording like where. they were trying to record what had. happened and when he was going through. these uh ancient Sumerian texts he.

believes that it was really all about. these beings called the Anunnaki those. from Heaven to Earth came and that these. these beings came from this planet that. is described as Nibiru and that they. have manipulated human DNA forever so. you are so you are into Star Wars. I I worship at the altar of nonsense so. everything you you said to me right now. so fun all in it's I'm all in on it dude.

it's so fun because if it really is the. case first of all we know that we would. do that 100 absolutely we would do that. we've done that to animals right we've. we've done all kinds of weird [ __ ] of. course hate hybrids and you know and of. course if people were designing like. they're making like life forms in Petri. dishes dude for sure we would do that I. don't know how close or far we're with. whatever all this gene splicing [ __ ] I'm. like dude if that's real. I'm like give it to me lobster claws.

gorilla body scorpion tail everybody's. gonna be the tiger face everybody's. gonna look like that guy from Prometheus. remember the guy that dies in The Alien. movie Prometheus don't you want like. cheetah legs and like [ __ ] old Wings. [ __ ] uh marsupials where's my [ __ ]. wings I want Eagle wings bat wings I'll. take sugar glider wings. right uh webbed feet like Kevin Costner. and uh water world. I'm all in dude you believe in aliens. yes. I accused you of being an alien last.

time right. probably. I might remember all right you want to. hear my hot take on Comedy right now. okay it's like what we [ __ ] we're. going all over the road yeah sorry I. like it I. so in the same way. in the same way tonight right if you go. home tonight and you do like a hardcore. uh jerk off session to porn you could. watch more porn in 24 hours.

I don't know how accurate this is but. it's pretty accurate then all of your. ancestors since the beginning of time. right of course you can watch thousands. of people [ __ ] tonight whereas before. the internet yeah so so in the same way. when I was passing around. um. tapes of like Eddie Murphy Raw Delirious. like you could watch every comedy. special in a week from like the funniest. guy in Dubai to the hottest guy in Hong. Kong you could like just download that. [ __ ] right.

and uh I actually want to make a quick. comment on uh style for comedians like. I always remember like what Martin. Lawrence or Eddie Murphy was wearing. like leather suit no shirt because not. to be disrespectful but isn't the the. art of Comedy or the act of Comedy like. you're a fool or you're a court jester. or your job is to make it's funny right. it's to make people laugh and then you. have these comedians going on stage.

dressing in suits or dressing like just. in a hoodie or I'm like you're a [ __ ]. clown dude dress ridiculous look like. this but like entertain me I see what. you're saying but I don't think so. um I think they should dress in any way. that feels funny to them. like if I've I've gone on stage in suits. many times it's fun we get a kick out of. it really yeah there's a photo of us all. in Vegas we did the MGM and I said dude. we should go and get Rat Pack like suits.

got some dope fitted suits and so had. David August make everybody's suits we. just we just decided it would look cool. I mean but fun but imagine but the. difference is trying to be cool but. people interpret when you see someone is. dressed up really nice always wearing a. lot of jewelry or is like looks very. flashy they're trying to be cool you. wouldn't have fun um doing a stand-up. set dress like an alien no no it's too. on the nose but all right some people. are they just that's how they like.

that's how they feel good they feel good. when they dress nice they feel good they. wear nice shoes they feel good when they. got a nice watch on they feel good so in. feeling good they'll go on stage they'll. perform better I'm like this profession. is like it's a clown profession so I. kind of want the outfit to match the all. right I should go watch Eddie Murphy. Delirious I think he was probably. wearing like a leather jumpsuit or. something yeah it was amazing yeah it's. amazing yeah you know I'm Richard Pryor. live at the Sunset Strip oh he has a. Blazer and a nice shirt on you know it's.

like guys have like yeah look at that. crazy and that's it was [ __ ] his. zipper all the way down to his belly. button yeah I was like eight when that. when I saw that and like I still. remember it you know that was a classic. dude I mean people don't know that if if. Eddie Murphy kept going there would have. been no doubt there would have been no. doubt who the greatest comedian ever was. Eddie Eddie Murphy just stopped doing it. if you watch like Eddie Murphy was like. a progression from in many ways like a.

progression from Richard Pryor like. here's the new Young Richard Pryor style. of comedy and he was so good man he was. so [ __ ] funny. I'm glad he stopped for me the red. outfit interesting right yeah yeah oh. you took so much from prior well. everybody did everybody did everybody. took from Lenny Bruce everybody took. from Pryor I like the theme of getting. out while you're ahead because you know. there's always like Eddie's gonna be. back and he's gonna kill him like he. already killed he destroyed and he's a. legend and just let him stay that way.

this thing where like why would you say. that this is why that's wrong he's he's. missing out on the chance to kill. we were just laughing we had a bunch of. good really fun shows and we're all. hanging out in the green room and we. were saying like imagine living your. life and never killing never killing on. stage imagine living your whole life I'm. like that would suck the stage just. looks different because doesn't he have. like 12 kids. like yeah don't you think he's like the. funniest dad ever for sure like when.

he's making breakfast no listen that too. the [ __ ] man but you can do that too you. could always do that too the difference. is it's like that guy we missed out on. probably like the greatest talent that. ever did stand up he stopped doing it. like stand up as an art form if you go. watch delirious and then listen to his. first album which I think he was like 20. or something like that something really. young yeah it's so good so good he was a. just a just a [ __ ].

amazing talent amazing talent they just. decided to stop doing it so that's why I. don't agree like if that guy just. decided to start doing it again now and. just started [ __ ] around and people. would let him walk on stage with notes. they would let him right you could do. whatever if they knew you were just. working out on stuff. people would let them do it well this. and he would he would get it again like. he did a speech once at what was it. again for the some award show. he did the speech where he did a Bill.

Cosby impression talked about them. taking Bill Cosby's uh Awards way Mark. Twain it was [ __ ] hilarious it was. like sharp the timing was on I was like. if that guy kept doing comedy there. would have been no doubt he would have. been number one of all time he was. incredible. as as a fan of comedy and who's watched. like because I have this access that. everyone also has access to all these. documentaries and comedies. um and it's this isn't just isolated to.

Comedy it's to anything right like. everyone who I know who's a music like. when I when I heard uh One by Metallica. [Music]. there's no YouTube video that shows you. how to do double face you're like what. the [ __ ] is that you have to figure that. out but now everyone who spent a. lifetime crafting whatever their art is. they're giving it away in a tick tock. right yeah so when Louis CK has a. special he goes on like 10 podcasts and. talks about where the joke comes from. how he can like how he so it's like the.

magician revealing all the magic tricks. and part of that is great because like. you're going to learn more now from. YouTube than you are from like school or. anything but because all the great. artists all the great magicians are. giving away their Wizardry like when. they do the joke now you you don't you. know like the surprise is gone you're. like oh that's how we did like you saw. how they made the sausage so so as. someone who loves comedy this is how I. feel and look there's always exceptions. to the rule but most comedy I either.

feel. like they're talking down to me or. they're talking at me or they're trying. to teach me or they're something like. that I'm like funny number one. priority [ __ ] like jokes laughing it's. like let me teach you something let me. show you what time it is let me hear. this and I'm like uh there's so many. podcasts that talk about the art of. Comedy the the behind the stage behind. the scenes this is like this working out. and like now it's just like a normal. dude that doesn't know about that didn't.

know any of that [ __ ] there's too much. [ __ ] so when I I'm like I just want the. joke to just be a joke like what if I. knew everything about how Eddie Murphy. came up with the raw act you know he's. like oh this happens like does it Aid. the comedy or does it make it like. you're watching a TED talk or something. you know well it depends I mean it. depends on how funny it is like there's. people that I know like Shane Gillis. I'll watch his set over and over and. over again because I know it's funny.

right I know where the jokes are I still. want to see him again and again they're. so funny right it doesn't I know how the. sausage is made right like it's not no. one's tricking me I know what's going on. you're writing jokes and we're but it's. when it's really well done I just want. to watch it over and over again. it's like I know how it's made and I'm. still laughing really hard I know the. lines I'm still laughing it's a minute. I've been laughing out loud yes. [ __ ] dude I love comedy I love watching. it man I love I still enjoy be that's. like a very important thing it's like.

imagine being an artist but not liking. art anymore you don't like other. people's art that would be ridiculous. but that happens to a lot of comedians. they become Comedians and they stop. loving stand-up comedy as a just someone. in the audience. [ __ ] man I think you just described me. I don't like most art I don't like most. of my art but yeah I I. yeah you can easily get like that with. anything you can easily get like that. one anything you get I get jaded with. like I don't watch porn anymore but I.

got so jaded with porn I got jaded with. music I get jaded with and then I end up. going back to like the classics of stuff. that is nostalgic or that or whatever. and I and I so I as a student of someone. who's like man [ __ ] life sucks let me. laugh tonight and I watch these things I. go I could see like this is a hot take. no disrespect to Chris Rock but like I. didn't even know Marlon Wayans was a. stand-up comedian and his take on the. whole Will Smith thing was [ __ ]. hilarious and Chris rocks was like I.

don't know like I it just didn't do it I. was like I could see what he's doing it. didn't land for me and. everything I saw on the internet was. like he just bodied Will Smith he. [ __ ] killed him and I'm like did he I. don't know man and so. my feeling so like I'm like I know what. I sound like the bitter jaded guy like. art sucks comedy sucks whatever. and so. um I did psychedelics recently and and.

uh like I said I accused you of being an. alien last time you're here. and uh. I like the the person that makes me. laugh more than anybody is when I'm. [ __ ] on psychedelics and whatever. that spirit is that's talking is always. like has the jokes it has the jokes and. the last time. um. so this is a reoccurring topic and once. again I gotta say this is not like this. is just something I see in my vision.

quest right. so I asked the alien last time I go. are you real are aliens real he's like. yeah it's you [ __ ] like what do. you mean he's like you never wonder why. Asians dicks are so small and like what. are you talking about and he goes. I go what the [ __ ] is your problem dude. he goes you know what we look like right. I'm like yeah the big eyes all men eyes. like this bluish gray uh no dick big.

head. um like you know like you've all seen. that picture it's like you know what I. look like [ __ ] and I'm like stop. cussing at me man and he goes we came. down to Africa we saw you [ __ ]. hairless little you know and we [ __ ] a. human right this is what this is what's. it's showing me it's like it's but it's. not it's not saying we [ __ ] a human oh. no it's it has the filthiest mouth. really like I'm dying like I'm on the. like I'm this is what I look like I'm. like in like like nature like with a.

shaman and I'm. really yeah I'm like dying and and I'm. and the thing is like just nonsense. because everyone's like oh I'm gonna. have a spiritual experience like and it. is spiritual but it's a long trip so it. goes through like hell heaven jokes. and he goes I came down to earth and I. [ __ ] your great great great great. great grandmother and I don't have a. dick because we don't [ __ ] uh with uh.

genitals we [ __ ] we were mind [ __ ] we. use our mind that's how we have sex and. so we're beyond that and he goes look in. the mirror [ __ ] and I go what you ever. wonder why Koreans have such big heads. and your eyes are a little bit like this. and your dicks are a little bit smaller. because we didn't have any dicks humans. had dicks we melted and so you have. little dicks and he's like. you never you never ever thought about. why you're blue I'm like what are you. talking about he goes you never wonder. why you were born with a blue ass and. I'm like what are you talking about dude.

like I'm like I'm like on the floor. tripping so I don't know if you know. this a lot of Asians and and they they. say they call it the Genghis Khan birth. bark do you know this no okay it's they. call it. Jamie look up like um. blue Asian blue birth so a lot of Asians. are born with a giant blue birthmark on. their ass really yeah and they call they. say it's all the way back from something. Genghis Khan did yeah there it is wow. yeah look go down Mr Mongolian blue.

smile wow so I was born with a blue ass. Joe I had a blue [ __ ] ass and um dude. like Avatar dude straight my I have a. picture of my and and this some some of. some have a small one like this and some. of them have I'm sure you could find. Bluer ones but then after like less than. a year it just disappears so it's called. the Mongolian birthmark and I had forgot. about it till the alien was talking to. me that's amazing and yeah there it is.

see mine looked more like that so I was. born with a blue ass and they so they. know specifically from genetics that. this goes back to the Mongol days well. I'm telling you who who gave me the. answer the the altar that I worship at. nonsense so the alien goes. you think you just had a blue ass out of. nowhere you're a [ __ ] alien [ __ ] and. I'm like what and he goes I gave you. just enough dick to like you know like. you don't need a giant dick it's good. you think you want a giant dick it's.

gonna get in the way I give you a. perfect dick you [ __ ] people with your. mind and you're [ __ ] you're you're. not yellow you're [ __ ] blue and I was. like oh it's not a Mongolian birthmark. he's like you're [ __ ] alien birthmark. and I was like you know I'm drooling I'm. like. look I did a horrible job his delivery. is way more vulgar it sounds more like. uh Eddie Murphy in his prime he's like. cussing and I'm like I don't know it's.

like in my mind I'm like this is not. what I was expecting out of this. spiritual journey. um. so yeah I mean it was uh you never heard. of the Mongolian birthmark I don't know. the exact story but it's something with. like Genghis Khan or someone did so much. [ __ ] that Genghis Khan apparently did. a lot of [ __ ] yeah like there's some. large percentage of the population that. that did something to make that. birthmark but it was clarified to me by.

that wouldn't really happen so that is. actually that story okay one Mongolian. spot is President over 90 percent of. Native Americans and people of African. descent over 80 percent of Asians over. 70 of Hispanics and just under 10. percent of fair-skinned infants. huh you didn't have a blue ass I don't. think so nobody told me maybe they just. kept it from me my kids had blue asses. yeah some Mexican story he's saying is. in your psychedelic trip is literally.

the same story that's in the Sumerian. text that's why when that's what's. that's why when you say uh uh wait in. the Sumerian text they say Asians are. spawns of no no no no no or humans oh. that humans that what happened was these. Advanced beings came down and they. manipulated our DNA and added their DNA. but by the way I have to say this this. is this guy's Zechariah sitchin and he's. very controversial he's a he's a like a. legit scholar Rock Solid credentials but.

he's also like a lot very controversial. like there's a I think there's a whole. website called sitchin is wrong.com Joe. I you're talking this if that's for your. audience I already believe you're an. alien so you don't need to like I'm just. I'm just I'm all in on the people that. this is not like I think this theory is. fun as [ __ ] and I love it but I don't. know if it's true like people ask me. like like I think one of the most taboo. things to talk about today is like you. could talk about [ __ ] or drug you. know you can talk about anything but. when anyone goes hey uh where's your.

spirituality at or what it's it's like a. conversation stopper but you know why. because anybody who asks it like that is. annoying but like where's your. spirituality right David David that's. like a that's in my blue [ __ ]. someone's hand pecking you but like. you're doing David but like I've never. asked you that like where is like what. is your thoughts on oh God I did it I. went there like. well considering having a podcast it's. very different than someone just. bringing it out of nowhere. um I am not an atheist I've never been.

an Atheist I've never been someone who. says I know there is no God right what I. have been some someone who has said that. a lot of the stories that are in a lot. of the religions clearly have the hand. of man on them there's clearly some. description that implies things that are. okay to do because of the cultural. values of people that lived three. thousand four thousand years ago.

whenever they wrote this stuff clearly. it condones slavery it can treat women. as second-class Citizens there's a lot. in these words that clearly have the. hand of man but there's also some. inherent deep wisdom and a moral. scaffolding that would make the world a. better place and almost all of them. there's something there that gives. people structure and discipline and. connects them in a community of. like-minded people who believe the same.

thing thing I think there's a great. value to that that's underappreciated by. people who call themselves atheists I. think there's also a great value in if. you truly believe you're living your. life and you're going to be a good. person you're going to go to heaven you. will you will have that energy through. your life you will be carrying the. belief and it will actually Aid you in. your life and that if you think this is. pointless as it's all it's all just. existential angst and it's all chaos.

like you live better if you believe that. this is all for a better purpose and. this is all a part of of God's plan that. might be true it might not be true but. you live better if you think that way. you can do that and still look at facts. and reality and you don't have to be. ideologically captured by some some. writing that was written down thousands. of years ago right but you are better.

off if you believe that this is all for. greater good. love love yeah and that's probably what. God really is God is love and love what. love is as it's at its most pure is a. force of creation a force of like. adhesion and bonding of human beings and. we know the opposite the opposite is. what's happening right now in Ukraine. that's the opposite the opposite is. that's hate yeah that's murder in.

[ __ ] whole scale murder it's wild. okay I mean war is hell it's the worst. thing the worst thing that people do and. that exists at the same time on Earth. with some of the best people enjoying. some of the best times together it's. it's there's you while you are with your. family and you are with your friends and. people come over your house and you have. dinner and you're laughing and having a. good time on some part of the world. someone's drinking out of a puddle you.

know in some part of the world someone's. in an apartment building that just got. hit by a missile. yeah you know it's all happening. simultaneously but we only have the. ability to understand what's happening. to us. and we we kind of think these things we. know these things are out there because. we watch TV and we watch the news. but we don't believe in it's it's like. it's not even a like there's people that. are calling for like war in Ukraine like. you don't even know what you're saying. like you don't even know what that. feeling is of be if you knew that would.

be the last thing you would ever want to. happen I [ __ ] love you man like I. love you I love you too and you too. Jamie you [ __ ] like I'm not gonna. leave you out of this and and. wow like I. and part like the part of the thing I. love what you just said right now and. part of like the way I pray. is creativity like when I make something. that's like that's how I interpret. prayer and what you talked about.

is like this belief it's it's Faith. right so. um and part of why. a lot of things I've done in my life. people have accused me of being suicidal. right they're like why are you going. into MS-13 territory why are you going. to the Congo why are you going to Bosnia. why are you going to places that are in. conflict and part of that is like I like. it when it hurts. and I it's just like I'm I'm attracted. towards Darkness or I was.

and and part of that is just I don't. believe like I watched the news I watch. something and someone tells me I've been. to every state in America right like. most people haven't most Americans. haven't done that and is there unrest is. there racism is there yes there is but. when you try to say everything like try. to make it binary and everything in like. black or white like I've had an amazing. time in Texas so far right and all these. places that are considered racist yeah.

I've experienced that also but even when. I go to like Atlanta at a black mall I. went to the wrong mall and everyone's. yelling [ __ ] to me if I could find one. kid and be like hey why are you calling. me that [ __ ] and then I bond with him in. that moment I'm just with him I've used. love he's and he didn't run away from me. like him and all of his friends were. doing this they were like and I was like. this is like 20 years ago and I'm like. I'm like oh [ __ ] dude and they were. yelling they're literally yelling you. came to the wrong Mall bro wrong you.

know and I was like oh [ __ ] and I felt. threatened I felt like oh [ __ ] like. something's about to happen and uh this. is. 1999 or something you know. and. and so. I you know because of the religious. abuse that I was raised in and and it's. crazy because most of the mental health. institutions or rehabs I've been into. you've heard about sexual abuse physical. abuse you've heard of those abuses I had.

never heard the word sexual abuse or. religious abuse and I'm like it's. disproportionately a lot of Orthodox. Catholics Orthodox Jews hardcore Muslims. hardcore Christians hardcore Mormons. like it's just that that like organized. like you have to be like this or else. you're bad creates so much shame and and. and I'm like [ __ ] God [ __ ] religion [ __ ]. but that's like now I've gone the other. side towards hate and I'm like I I'm a. loving person like I was telling you. like. it's not an accident that you're like.

the biggest podcast in the world you're. such a sweet loving you don't like do. get involved with all this other. [ __ ] podcast drama that all these. are like you're just loving your love. you're lovable you are love and so I. always go I ca I tend to be a hater. that's always pushed to like talk [ __ ]. or be bitter and [ __ ] everything sucks. and I I need love to drag me back and so. part of that is you know this is part of. uh 12-step stuff like higher power and. whatever is. we like having a team right I'm a.

Christian our symbol is this I have a. star ours has 20 arms and swords like. everyone wants to have a logo and a. t-shirt and my church is this Mars are. round ours are like Gothic you know and. that that's good right it's good to to. have that but. um I I was so jaded and I was so bitter. and the guy that was helping me through. all my darkness was like. kind of don't care I kind of don't care. if you believe in God or not it's just. like like a fake it till you make it.

he's like I just want you to believe and. have the faith whether you believe it or. not is irrelevant I was like what he's. like it's just weird talking to you. because no one believed you'd be the. wealthiest artist in the world except. for you that's insane amount of faith. that got you there no one thought you. would do this in your life no one. thought and you you were the only one. maybe your mom. but because you believed it it happened. so it doesn't matter if tenth planet is. ludicrous or the science like even.

science is a religion how many times has. science been wrong right well science is. data right it's scientists in their. interpretations it's incorrect or biased. that's the problem and calling it The. Science when people say that trust the. science right and the scientist is the. process it's a scientific process so I I. I I subscribe to what you said of like I. that's you know sorry to sound like a. douche again but that's where I find my. spirituality is like Community it's it's. what they call uh I just learned this um.

third space right like first space and. second space is like. uh your house is like first space I. think second space is like work where. you work and then third space is what. people need to like be social like. whether that's a cafe Church the gym and. third space is the internet now right. that's just where everyone congregates. and like I don't I do all these. limitations on my phone and technology. so it keeps me off social media keeps me. off all these things I have a child safe.

like. you know that's because of my addictive. nature but that's where people are so. that's where I have to meet them so. um yeah the way and you know I'm still. searching like I'm not perfect obviously. but I try to do anytime something. happens and I feel myself going to the. dark side [ __ ] this [ __ ] this. whatever is like how can I meet you with. love and then I feel better it's. selfishly I feel better yeah it's like. because it's very important because.

because so much of. so much of Korean identity is Revenge. right if you watch old boy or any Korean. show on Netflix it's all about you. tripped me when I was five and now I've. spent my entire life figuring out you. know right right. um. and so to bring it back to the acting. thing. um. I get this role right I play this. [ __ ] like kind of lovable [ __ ] I.

just added that. um and then I show up to the set and. again. I write a like a short story back page. like uh thing I'm doing improv I have. all these and they're like Dave. can you just do the lines so that other. people can go home like no one's asking. you to write a another like and I'm like. I don't know how to not do that right so. my character is always yelling at my. cousins doesn't someone know you. that works with them that could like.

talk and go hey you gotta let Dave know. that you can't invent any new stuff and. put it in the movie yeah I mean look it. was. I was having like in the same way that. as a comic book fan like I feel like I'm. like Aquaman's a douchebag the Guardians. of the Galaxy are like d-list four for a. dollar bin the fact that we live in a. world now that like Aquaman Wonder Woman. Iron Man Iron Man's like the worst no.

one reads Iron Man like these are like I. used to read Iron Man you bought issues. of Iron Man yeah so you know the whole. Tony Stark [ __ ] you oh okay yeah you're. you you're the you're a unique person no. dude it's very popular Iron Man was. super popular when I was a kid or you're. a little bit older than me but like most. kids it was Batman X-Men Superman like. the yeah but Iron Man was the [ __ ] dude. Iron Man was very popular the Hulk was. very popular I love the whole Spider-Man. was very popular I was a Marvel guy I.

really didn't get into DC Comics that. much [ __ ] love all of it I love all. that [ __ ] but I just never followed them. it's not that I don't like them I never. followed them but uh Marvel had a more. Marvel Marvel had a better buy-in like. the the awkward teenager that gets the. super you know like like not that many. people are born billionaires that become. bad you know like I think DC was more. like I know they're they're all really. old right but I think DC it reminds me. of like a different like a World War II.

mentality or something like the origin. stories for these people yeah it was it. was more clunky came from another planet. you know Hulk's a normal dude right you. wouldn't like me when I'm angry right. everyone could buy you know that right. like everybody I'm just the nerd but. don't push me this guy gets bit by a. radioactive spider I'm a nerdy teenager. and his uncle who took care of him gets. killed because he callously lets these. bad guys run past him and nobody knows. this but he could actually shoot the. webs out of his dick and I didn't and.

his [ __ ] yeah I don't know I mean. that's where spiders shoot webs out of. right the web thing's so ridiculous. which invented this [ __ ] that's better. than anything anyone's ever figured out. ever like he could be a [ __ ] can super. billionaire just from that web right the. idea that we buy into the fact that this. [ __ ] college kid invented this stuff. that shoots from his wrist in a. never-ending Supply. grab buildings and swing he's shooting. these thick ropes out of his wrist and. I'm like bro I if if I I would buy that.

all that [ __ ] you know like and just but. where's it coming from where's all that. [ __ ] coming from that's the problem. there's no storage tank on them he's. just shooting these webs and they're. just flying off of him from what are you. making that stuff well the easy what is. that the easy thing is always like he's. a genius the smartest guy on the planet. you know and we've only invented the web. that guy could invent anything he could. make anti-matter devices my point he's. that smart my point was the shittiest. Comics that I didn't read are these. billion dollar like Ant-Man who the [ __ ].

ever read Ant-Man you know so in that. same kind of feeling it's a run out of. like superhero and like narratives. there's yeah that might be true I think. it is and you know what else I hate to. say this I gotta pee again yeah. so yeah I I. um I just found Jamie's was morbius. morbius was cool. I used to like uh blade blade was my. favorite oh Blade's the best well he was. a [ __ ] he had teak knives there were.

knives made out of teak wood so he could. kill vampires he came out of his mom and. just [ __ ] killed her like he was a. bad [ __ ] blade was dope and. Wesley Snipes is that movie the. beginning scene of that movie where uh. Tracy Lords leads that guy into the. middle of this disco and all these. vampires are dancing other vampires yeah. and then the Blood starts spraying yeah. and it's a [ __ ] amazing scene it's. one of the best scenes in any horror. movie ever it's so cool too and just the.

imagery when this guy goes through this. and he starts recognizing that it looks. like these are human bodies that are. hanging from there I love that you knew. that oh my God. yeah you know all the ACT yeah this was. um. an amazing scene and then blade shows up. and kills all the vampires it's [ __ ]. incredible man it's such a good scene. like to this day I like I mean even if I. don't watch the whole movie I'll throw. this scene on because it's when the guy. realizes that there's blood coming out. of the ceiling and then he looks up.

and he sees the faucet blood and it just. starts spraying and the way it's shot is. like almost like stop action because. you're whoever the director was they did. an amazing job of like setting it up. where it's like the chaos of the moment. it's expressed in the way he filmed it. yeah like like for the guy who's getting. sprayed with blood surrounded by. vampires and freaking out like. everything's chaotic he's seeing them.

dance around their fangs. that's a lot of blood. that's a lot of the cherry juice or. whatever they use yeah whatever the [ __ ]. they use everybody's covered and so he's. trying to get out of there they're. beating the [ __ ] out of him. and when they after they beat the [ __ ]. out of him blade shows up yeah Disney. owns Marvel they're ready to kill him I. don't think they're gonna make something. this Blood drenched for kids I wonder if. they're done now with this there's a new. blade that's coming out yeah I heard. right I wonder if it's gonna be like.

this though. hire me as the writer and it'll be good. I mean this [ __ ] scene's amazing. though this is the first time you see. blade. they're all freaking out the day Walker. and they all freak out as soon as they. see him. [ __ ] seeds amazing man. oh. oh you teased me but I I just just. talking about this I.

when I'm like reflecting on like what I. like my superheroes are. the The Hulk Spider-Man like you did. something to me and now you're gonna. [ __ ] learn what time it is like like. in yours you tend more towards. werewolves blood vampire no like you. like the monsters right I do you're more. of a monster guy. um but yeah my point with all of it was. just the fact that as a crate like I'm a. super nerd like I [ __ ] buy original. comic like as someone like that it's.

kind of surreal to be in a world where. these like someone's mom knows who Tony. Stark is right like only nerds would. know that right right back in the day so. I'm having a very similar feeling on set. because I've done artwork or other I've. been on movie sets before and I've just. I've never been in a scenario where 95. of beef the Netflix show I did the cast. is Asian so like. like uh. at the height of my gambling right when.

I'm being flown to Macau when I'm flying. and taking every like penthouse suite in. Vegas. that was a surreal like here's a Bus. full of hookers here's every drug you. want even though you don't do drugs. here's us like everyone's calling me Sir. Mr Cho like that doesn't happen anywhere. else in my life ipsa for there and then. I arrive on set and like there's a giant. Netflix fruit basket and like I like I. like open my water take a sip and then.

like a white guy comes and goes let me. get you a fresh water sir and I'm like. dude it's it's cool bro and I'm like oh. this is why Hollywood people are [ __ ]. up because this is not natural right. this is [ __ ] weird dude like people. are licking my like and like I like it. I'm like this feels good but I I'm glad. you said that well the thing I said. before about like. Asians I've only seen them as Kung Fu. Masters or waiters or nerds I'm like oh. I get to play like a real person and I.

don't have to like code switch or I. don't have to pretend to be this kind of. Asian or that like I'm just me right but. the weirdness is the way they treat the. Stars oh dude I'm like bizarre I was. like bro I'll get my own food you know. like I get to my room and they're like. and it's like if if acting or Hollywood. is a religion or a cult like it's just. everyone there is buying in right like. the lighting guy wants to be well that's. like if you're an atheist and you're. really into acting right you know. there's certain people that are your. Gods they're your deities.

so yeah I I went as someone who. look I don't know how you perceive me. but I perceive myself over the last all. the spiritual work all the work I've. been doing all the insane [ __ ] rehabs. and mental institutions I I'm a [ __ ]. chill dude that's how I I feel but I. didn't that wasn't my role for this. character I had to go back to Old 19th. yeah and so now I'm at with my family at. a deli getting a reuben and you know my. wife's like that was a very aggressive. Reuben order you know like like over.

here like and I kind of don't like how I. feel and I'm like you know I'm talking. to Ali I'm talking to Steve I'm like I. don't know how you guys do this and not. lose your mind and they're like Dave you. don't have to go method and I go. I don't know how to not do that like I. don't have that so you're doing math so. you're ordering food in character I. wasn't trying to it just was they call. it leaking I was leaking like [ __ ]. crazy oh okay like I was like that guy. because I'm like yeah don't do that and. and the thing is like if you're like I.

play all I act all day with my kid right. I'm [ __ ] I'm playing and and then. it's fun it's the objective is fun but. if I'm waving a gun at someone's face. and I'm like [ __ ] you and that and like. Ali Wong's my friend I don't want to. [ __ ] yell at my friend and the guy. says cut again [ __ ] you cut [ __ ] you cut. at the end of the day like I've just. been screaming [ __ ] you waving a gun and. like maybe if I grew up as an actor but. like I go that doesn't feel good like my.

that doesn't feel good to me and and so. I like kind of like lost my mind playing. this character and so I checked myself. into a mental hospital for a week oh my. god dude I was like like why not I. called this place that I used to go to. like so this playing this character like. I lost my [ __ ] my switch I lost my. mind really I lost my mind and then I. went to the Mississippi I go there all. the time and can I can I talk to you. about yes yes just the path of the Mind. Right how how flexible.

is. the idea of uh losing your mind like is. it. when you're when you're at a good state. of mind you're in a good state of mind. and something comes along like how. flexible is your mentality does it. immediately go into this New Groove like. if you decide you're going to be in. character you're going to play this. [ __ ] does that become you.

like and how much of who we are or who. we assume we are is just a program that. we're running so that the weirdness of. life doesn't give us unbearable anxiety. so we're running a program and that. program is most of your past thoughts. and experiences and the things you've. learned and done and then interface that. with the rest of the world. but if you decide because you're playing. in a role that you're a [ __ ] [ __ ].

like I wonder how much of what we are is. choices where for you it was just acting. because you wanted to be an [ __ ] for. a movie but for other people like how. much of who you are is because of the. the way people behave around you and how. will I how vulnerable are we to other. people's behavior and thinking and just. like let's go back to the hanza where. you're talking about these people all. eating those brains for them that is.

completely normal yeah it's completely. normal highlight so it does it right so. it doesn't feel bizarre for you. culturally you've never experienced this. before you're there it's wild you're. like holy [ __ ] this is crazy to see that. all of it's crazy to see but isn't that. that seems to be the [ __ ] case with. everything I think I think the human. mind like what we accept and what. becomes normal to us I think it's very. very malleable really malleable. oh I mean absolutely and as someone if.

you're a really good human or artist. that that you have walls down and you're. like yeah like a conduit then then. things affect you if if I'm like jaded. and my walls are like this then I could. watch a snuff film or like have the. worst [ __ ] happen and it's just like. whatever I could see a guy dying on the. street but don't you think if you did if. you had that way of thinking you. couldn't be creative it's almost like. that way of thinking like you're putting. up a barrier to sensitivity which is. like.

so important for any kind of art you. have to be sensitive well look part of. just existing. part of existing for me like people when. I think of like how people are sensitive. to uh racism right now right like I and. they're like I can't believe they made a. racist joke or whatever and I'm like I. grew up in the 80s the 70s and the. coolest kid at school would be like. David Chow how do you say your name Chao. ching chong and guess what I would do if. it was like a Disney movie I would like.

stand up hey you can't talk to me that's. not what happened I laughed I was like I. don't know what to do in this moment and. I don't want to like go against every. everyone else is laughing so I guess. I'll just laugh yeah yeah and I'll just. laugh so I'm like laughing at a racist. joke in the 80s against me because. that's the mask or whatever and I think. what you're asking it depends how open. you are how sensitive you are to other. people's energies and also just quite. frankly if you're an addict or not if.

you have that attitude you become. another person while playing a person. like this is a narrative in movies where. a pandemic hits and then a person. becomes a Savage right right like that. is in uh The Last of Us right that uh. the gentleman Pascal what is this. amazing in that show yeah but that's the. role he he was a normal guy right and. then all of a sudden you know we're. spoiler alert he's not a normal guy by. the end of the show right that this that.

human beings can become other things. very quickly. very quickly that's what's so weird. about it I mean you saw you you weren't. like were you in La when the pandemic. started oh yeah yeah like you go from. normal to about to kill someone over. toilet paper yeah that that what was. that a week into the pandemic it wasn't. very long yeah and there was no real. disruptions no real disruptions. disruptions to work but what I'm saying. is like food was available right and the. power was on and you know the what got.

crazy during that time was even under. the best case scenario of a total. disruption of the the country because. the best case scenario would be it's not. for a war it's not you know like the. power doesn't go out like there's a lot. of scenarios that could you could see. way worse than what the pandemic was but. look at the [ __ ] damage it did right. look at the damage did to people. psychologically look at the damage it. did to the to businesses to small.

businesses look at the damage it did to. information look at the damage it did. too you know propaganda and the way. people think about the news I mean look. at the damage it did to the idea that. the people that are running the country. it have a good sense of how to take care. of things like this I mean few I mean. fear real or imagined is. I mean there's a quote about it where. like most like most of these things that. you're scared of will almost never. happen right so you live a life.

like wound up guns you're like ready for. the worst thing and it'll never happen. but that's before the pandemic right see. there's people that were like that. already yes and then the pandemic came. along and cracked them yeah and there's. I was looking at I was looking at tanks. on Craigslist I was like I'm gonna buy a. tank dude there's a lot of people I was. looking at that I was looking at that. helicopter where a tank could go into I. was looking on websites for that well. that's why we we freak out at things. like The Walking Dead because we know.

that well it's if things go south people. will revert to their worst instincts. quickly when there's no internet and. there's no way to share information and. communicate that someone did this and. this happened and if there's no like. like you could take a film of someone. murdering someone and then they'd catch. that guy from the news I mean that. happens now right right but if you're in. Walking Dead times there's no power. right right so no one is no one knows. what the [ __ ] is going on and the only.

way people organize they get together. when they yell some guy yells at a group. of people and then they they do barbaric. [ __ ]. and this is what the the nature of human. beings has been for many thousands of. years that's why it's so easy for us to. like snap back into us right and. culturally there's a reason why. um we like superheroes because we want. someone to come save us exactly. culturally there's a reason why zombies. are [ __ ] so big right now right. zombies weren't this big back you know.

it's because. when you see a new movie new Sci-Fi it's. always post-apocalyptic post-apocalyptic. post-op it's on our minds yeah it's. heading this way and it's look as. someone who was raised in the church. like the apocalypse uh Revelations is. the shortest book in the Bible so you're. like you go oh it's like just like 20. Pages or whatever. the what happens in those 20s Pages like. spans thousands of years so we a lot of. people discussed that we're in that now.

right yeah so people go oh AI like this. and that and you know whatever I'm sure. you have way smarter people to talk. about that but I go back to. that's One by Metallica And if we can go. back to early 2000s. that's Lars Ulrich from Metallica I'm. trying to Sue or all of Metallica trying. to sue Sean Parker at Napster yeah and. it's like Genie's out of the bag bro. like you can't control that like that's.

I think they didn't have any idea what. was coming nor how could they and so we. really thought that that was just it's. it's so difficult to see we're like one. invention goes it was just Napster and. that was it for the end of time right. yeah but maybe control but it's the. thing that never loses technology yeah. there's no stopping it right and it's. like what do you and so that's actually. when the first time Sean Parker reached. out to me and he's like bro I want to. get a painting for you from you but I'm. being sued for a trillion dollars right. now from like every single and you know.

whatever they got out of that but I'm. saying it had the genie was out of the. box Pandora's Box whatever and and so. that was back then right right and now. we live in an age where most kids don't. pay like if I wanted to listen to music. I had to take a risk and buy something. at Tower Records get a job and then [ __ ]. man the single was good and the rest of. that you know like you had to risk but. now because we have access to all the. porn all the documentaries all the. comedy all the music it's like in that. way everyone's wealthy right anybody can.

have access to anything. um or find a way to steal it or have it. with very low risk of getting caught. right right and so people don't. understand we have what's out AI for the. consumers right but some of the people. we know like this [ __ ] is Bonkers dude. and I talked to Jamie about it like you. will never [ __ ] be able to believe. like I could come home and be like hey I. suck my dick AI uh I want to listen to. Carpenters but I want Ice-T to sing it.

AI uh my dad was like really shitty to. me. um put him up hologram have them say all. the apologies I wish he said but he. never said AI Ozarks but all Asian. change the ending to The Sopranos deep. fake like that's coming that's here it's. not perfect yet it's getting real close. and so what is it do it brings the. temperature of the fear up right like a. lot of my friends have lost their jobs a. lot if I if I was still trying to sell. art I'd be [ __ ] out of a job like AI. paints way better than I do.

um. and so what did Metallica have to do. tour right AC DC's Stones like 90 years. old still [ __ ] touring and so. it's like what we were seeing again. that's here now you could sign papers. and [ __ ] to try to make that go away. that's a [ __ ] insane monster that's. here now and of course we would love it. if it was. best case scenario and it was here to. Aid humanity and do all that but we've.

seen enough Terminators like the things. it's a human that made that right so. it's gonna probably be really racist. it's probably gonna be super sexist it's. probably going to be like Psychopathic. it's probably gonna and so. I go I could go to fear I could go to. hate or I could go to acceptance. adapting and our religion of love and so. whatever that whatever like that's a. gift if you're like working at a job and. you're like wow AI is a self-driving car.

now I have I'm out of my truck driving. job or I've learned my whole life how to. like edit sound and now that's done like. all that it's almost like freeing you to. be the whatever. is coming next and so whatever your. version of touring is Right which is the. third space again it's human connection. like you can't make if you're if forget. Metallica if you're like a new band most. people aren't buying CDs tapes records. so you have to sell merch you have to go. out you have to perform you have to meet.

people right you have to have connection. so whatever that version of that is for. you as a human no more like like you're. gonna have to move away from technology. and more to human connection okay that's. my belief on it because it's [ __ ]. scary as [ __ ] and I could choose to live. in fear and be scared or like like. people are losing their livelihoods that. they spent their life on like yeah that. that aspect of it is terrifying because. people aren't stable.

financially enough to deal with the. entire industry going away I fired my. lawyer. like I asked chat gbt like my lawyer. costs 600 bucks every time I pick up the. phone and I was like as a test like. here's the questions and you know I. always got to do 10 minutes of small. talk I'm like that's 100 bucks right. there you know I'm like I don't care. about your kids dude just tell me tell. me what I want to know so he gave me a. very similar answer than the chat gbt. I'm like that's the phone call I'm never. gonna have to make again wow boom done. the guy that does like.

you know but now that guy's free to. pursue the next chapter of his life you. know whatever if if something's. available the problem is what what you. know people like Andrew Yang were. worried about was this Mass disruption. of our economy where automated things. and things done through AI remove most. jobs and so we have this abundance of. wealth that's available to things like. the war in Ukraine and some other stuff. like we need to consider something like.

a universal basic income yeah so and. it's not saying that just for people to. never work you don't have to work we'll. just give you money that's not what it. is it's like you have to be figure out a. way to give people enough money to. survive if everything goes away because. everything might go away right that's. that's where it's sketchy and what's. really sketchy is. what we might be doing is making a new. life form and I've said this before but. I'll say it again I think we're an. electronic caterpillar that's going to.

become a butterfly I think we're not. going to be people anymore and I think. there's going to be a transitionary. period where people are cyborgs and they. integrate with technology and it becomes. mandatory because but because everybody. does it just like everybody has a. smartphone and then it's going to get to. a point in time where they're going to. be able to figure out how to either. replicate Consciousness or transport. Consciousness like this is the rate. curse while stuff Ray Kurzweil believes. you're going to be able to download. whatever Consciousness is into some new. form of you know whatever it is quantum.

Computing it's coming it made it coming. it may be coming and this is what I. think it does. I think it makes a better version of it. and that makes a better version of that. I think it happens really quickly and I. think it basically becomes God right I. think it basically becomes a creative. force of the universe if something just. becomes infinitely more capable of. manipulating its environment and change. right like a human being what we have. done is the most devastating thing we've. ever done by far is create atomic bombs.

right we've created a device that have. dropped upon a city it vaporizes. everything it's the most [ __ ] insane. thing people have ever done but we did. it and we we can't put that Genie back. in the box right it exists that that's a. thing that exists and if. if we could do that what could something. that is as far evolved past us as we are. from lower primates what if there's some. new version of humans that's like a.

cyborg that integrates with technology. like integrates with some insane. computer bank that has the ability to. manipulate everything manipulate gravity. create portals travel through space. instantaneously to to grasp ideas that. are beyond our comprehension right now. it's not if you keep going a thousand. years it's not like we're going to. figure everything out and just be stuck. no they're gonna each invention each.

technological innovation will compound. upon the other ones and we're going to. get to some place that's impossible for. us to imagine today impossible. impossible just like shit's about to get. weird like like [ __ ] weird when we. were kids like there was a there was a. commercial that I just saw somebody put. up on uh Twitter it was hilarious it was. a device that people had back in the day. where it was like Velcro on your phone. and you would slap this thing that's. like a headset and you would put it on.

so that you could talk on your home. phone while you like doing the dishes. and [ __ ] and I was like they thought. that was the [ __ ] like it looks so dumb. but that's what I'm saying like. my dad is old but like sometimes I I. work with like older people and like say. you're 90 years old right so your life. is Candlelight no electricity like if. you're like almost 100 years old that. was your reality right yeah you lived in. a Time pre-internet pre-cars horse and. buggy Candlelight and if you're still.

alive today they're in that like there's. a [ __ ] world now where there's. Postmates Uber or [ __ ] everything. like self-driving cars like this world. looks [ __ ] insane to those people it. looks [ __ ] insane right so that's. what. that's the thing this is the thing like. the velcro is just absolutely the. headset one size fits all. right look at this stays firmly in place. look at this [ __ ] oh I gotta get that. bro this is amazing this guy's washing. his slick 1984 car.

1993. wow look at that 1993 is not that. long ago not that long ago not that long. ago and that was like that looks like. [ __ ] that anybody figured out that looks. like 70s or so I used to have a headset. I used to have a wireless phone like a. wireless phone that would clip to my. belt with a belt buckle like this [ __ ]. and then I I had like a headset that was. one of those office headsets that like a. secretary would use and I would walk. around my house talk on the phone I. thought it was the [ __ ] bro I got a. headphone my my wireless phones on my.

belt I'm reading a book right now I'm. listening to a book okay so it's called. dissolving illusions. it's all about disease and it's about. the early days of uh the 20th century. and how horrific the conditions were in. cities right and how people lived and. just just filth it's so sad man and and. to hear about these children that were. forced into labor like eight years old. on coal mines it's [ __ ] horrendous.

that's why with a reminder yeah what's. possible exactly when you look at that. and you look at today in a way like if. you live in like a modern city like even. a homeless guy is Rich compared to that. right yeah this book is let me give the. author's name just so people know um. there it is you found oh you got it. that's it yeah Suzanne Humphries MD and. how do you say this gentleman's name. Robin bistrianic.

bystri NYK bistrionic Suzanne Humphries. MD and Roman bistrionic bestrionic yeah. so it's dissolving Illusions disease. vaccines in the Forgotten history and. it's all just about you know like. well the beginning of it where the part. I'm at right now is just like a horrific. it's like you can't even yeah like the. conditions that people had to live in. and that everyone lived in back then. it's just so disturbing it's so. disturbing because you realize that like. these people were just poor and they. were just stuffed into these areas and.

everybody lived like this and they were. all just in each other's filth and oh so. in the same way if you lived in that you. would never imagine we would be like. this right where we are now we'll never. imagine what's coming exactly what we. know little of is frightening yeah I. mean I'm guilty like I know what I know. you like samurais I know you like aliens. but I know you don't like the nerd [ __ ]. I'm into and they're kind of nerd. [ __ ] you into how do you know I. don't like it do you like Legos no yeah.

so there's a there's an AI I'm not. interested in anything that doesn't do. the job perfect every time okay it's. always going to leave these weird. [ __ ] but I'm sure you've seen it. there's so much AI of like you talking. to Jordan Peterson or like someone else. talking about like very specific nerd. details of Bionicle Legos or or um DND. like [ __ ] that you you don't normally. talk about I'm gonna show you something. and it's like it's like hilarious I'm. like I like you know I'm like I know. it's like my brain knows it's not real.

but I'm like wow Joe's talking really. like uh you know really like super into. curious about Legos right now no not. that interested in like yeah I know. you're not I think they're cool I loved. them when I was a kid I want to send you. this thing Jamie this is an artist who. makes these things out of chocolate it's. [ __ ] incredible I mean like one of. the coolest things I've ever seen like I. can't believe this guy can do this and. how I I want to know how long it takes. it because it's one of them Tick Tock. Style videos where you only see like. clip after clip after clip and it's like.

very condensed uh version of how he does. this. um but this guy is an artist who makes. stuff out of chocolate. and he made a [ __ ] Raptor like a. Jurassic Park Raptor and it's big look. at this check this out go go big with. that so you can see this this is [ __ ]. insane what this guy's doing he's making. molds I like his smile oh he's having a. great time well he knows it's dope he. knows he makes dope [ __ ] oh my God this. guy makes dope [ __ ] dude look at this.

man. this is the the biggest [ __ ]. chocolate I've ever seen in my life this. is all chocolate you could eat that. thing how could you eat it though how. could you or how could you not. how could you not you're you're Captain. Chaos how could you not eat it you'd. have to eat it right look how beautiful. this is though like look at the talons. he's putting together this guy's [ __ ]. amazing wow what is his name Armory. guccion uh a-m-a-u-r-y-g-u-i.

-c-h-o-n. um I don't know where he's from I just. found this yesterday the [ __ ] eye. moves dude it rolls around inside the. head he's got it like loose in there. look at that man that's chocolate but. like all this stuff's incredible too. where's he from. says uh. yeah I don't know if he's in America I. don't know where he is he's got a lot of. countries up up on there so he must.

perform in in different places and put. those things together but that's like. some of the most incredible [ __ ] I've. ever seen and that's total Next Level. stuff right like I've never I don't know. if other people are doing this because. I'm ignorant to it but I've never seen a. chocolate [ __ ] Raptor like that well. like that's amazing the the sculpture. you have right there oh yeah that's. amazing but could be 3D printed right oh. I don't know how he makes it but he's an. artist in Japan no I'm I'm like I'm. guessing that he actually made that with. his hands but I'm saying we are like.

that chocolate guy right right that. could be 3D printed right it could be so. another world right well this could be. done now in an easy way but you wouldn't. value it. well maybe we wouldn't but kids don't. give a [ __ ] right like you know what. some people do like like it means a lot. in some circles this could be an awkward. conversation. like Jamie's job is probably going to be. irrelevant if it isn't already no no I. got three years but you wouldn't no no. no no no no I'm saying no no no no half.

of this show is the fun of that's all. that up Jamie and then and I'm like what. kind of [ __ ] ass link is this find. me some [ __ ] on DuckDuckGo let's there. could be a good AI that could be [ __ ] so. that's my soul. listen but that's what I'm saying it's. like no chance no because everyone's. gonna want to know that Jamie's here. right exactly so even if that's what I'm. saying yes you still want the human. content yes right like if the AI is here. and it's like every single editing bring. that up Jamie yeah and maybe even you.

can trick them there's a deep fake voice. that's doing like all right Joe or. whatever like you would still for you. you'd be like I like Jamie as a person. like I want him here I like him you know. well it's an intangible part of the vibe. right if you just decide that that's not. a part of the vibe and Jamie's not here. anymore I would feel it I would feel a. loss right I'm gonna give you Jamie. there's a thing about things that people. do and this is like the the concern. about AI art and I know a lot of people. have concerns about AI art and I I get. where they're coming from particularly.

with taking jobs away from illustrators. and it's going to be a problem if it's. not already a problem it is a problem. there's a thing I'm sure it's a problem. I don't even know why I'm hedging that. but there's a thing that people really. love about I love things that someone. made like to me that's [ __ ] giant. that means everything to me right like. this thing this is uh. by this guy. um Shane Against the Machine and this is. a chimpanzee skull that's made from. Zildjian symbols I [ __ ] love this.

thing right this guy makes [ __ ] like you. go to his Instagram page and he's gonna. see the texture of the symbol you. couldn't if you did that with a 3D 3D. printer wouldn't mean anything it would. still be dope like if someone gave me. that and it was 3D printed I'd still. think it was dope right but knowing that. a guy made it it's way more dope and. that's what we're moving towards is. I don't think you and I are and I think. as long as we can express no I'm saying. we're moving towards you you're gonna. have to make stuff by like yes it's. gonna be less it will mean more yeah. it'll mean means more it means more it's.

real this is this guy's version of like. Metallica Tour like you have to exactly. you could Mass produce [ __ ] but that's. gonna have less value to someone like me. it's a giant thing in the world of pool. cues in in the world of pool cues. there's there's computer made pool cues. yeah where they're made on this lathe. and doesn't ever [ __ ] up and it's really. and those pool cues it's just about. design right and just beautiful. execution but in the world of handmade. pool cues there's some [ __ ].

that are like cutting right there's this. guy named um well my buddy John. Showman's with best examples he makes. pool cues where they are cutting these. points into this wood and they have all. these layers of wood and it's a big. block and they spin it on a lathe until. it becomes the perfect diameter and they. make sure the wood has a good harmonic. sound to it they like dunk it on the the. concrete to get a sound my friend Eric. crisp he takes every shaft and he thinks. he listens to the sound that it makes.

when it bounces off the cement so he. wants to know they have the right. Harmony and that the woods the harmony. of the woods go together so the art is. anal artisanal pool cue guy yeah is uh. like how many of those are in the world. there's quite a few there is yeah I mean. not in compared to like how many lawyers. there are right I mean there's but. there's dozens there's dozens all over. the world and there's a lot in Japan too. there's this uh one company called Zen. cues out of Japan that's doing [ __ ].

phenomenal stuff like super artistic. [ __ ] and pool cues but the but the rate. at which. you know like. I started earlier with you today talking. about like how I figured out the money. game or the thing like hey I can figure. that out in two seconds right like a it. could catfish the [ __ ] out of anyone so. in that same way it will figure out how. to make imperfect stuff to give it a. handmade look no no I I honestly think. you're good so then the value will be in. the documentation of it yeah so like. here's there's a go to uh North demon.

cues there's this guy in China yeah that. makes these [ __ ] beautiful pool cues. and he documents a lot of the the the. construction of it on these tiny little. things that he's in laying in there with. silver and copper and he's setting it. all look at this [ __ ] gorgeous work. man this guy's doing this I mean there's. photos of his lab where he puts all this. stuff together but his cues are [ __ ]. gorgeous beautiful they're works of art. and they play really good too it's like.

crazy combination because you can't just. have that it has to be balanced it has. to have a fee feel when you drive. through the ball and you can make. amazing stuff with computers you can. make amazing stuff with machines but. you're you're not going to feel it in. your hand and know that a man on the. other side of the world constructed this. and he did it in his in his his workshop. and he did it with machines like sanding. things and sawing things and lining it. up perfectly right so someone who's in.

the position of like that's my passion. or my hobby I love making cool cues but. that doesn't really pay the bills so I'm. going to go towards law school like now. that your job is taken away it's going. to push this this is what I one theory. that could happen or one let me just. stop you right there because the world. of pool cues those guys have like a. three year waiting list some of them. have attend Southwest cues might have a. 16-year waiting list but that's like. with any specialty thing right the guy. who hand makes knives or jackets or.

whatever like they all like the ones. that are the best will always have a but. like if you're out there right now and. you're like [ __ ] I gotta if if this is. moving towards cyborg God level yeah and. it's not evil and it's not trying to. kill us and it does make the world a. better place where ever it's like 3D. printing houses for everyone and. figuring out how to grow its own food. and you don't actually need to make that. much money because it's like providing. for you then you're gonna have to figure. out how to like. be a person and live with and like you.

know have a Jamie or have friends and. you know more human experiences instead. of just living online all the time my. legitimate concern is we're gonna be. amongst the last of the people that's my. legitimate concern my legitimate concern. is we the the idea that we would never. be here is so outside the realm of. possibility that we don't even think. about it I think if you think about all. the other planets that don't have any. life the idea that this one life is. going to Prevail why just because it's. us and we're awesome like I don't.

believe that so in whether it's by. nuclear disaster you know whether it's. War uh nuclear war whether it's some. horrific natural disaster whatever it is. it easily could happen and the idea that. it wouldn't but the this thing that we. create if we create this thing and this. thing figures out the possibilities of. these things happening and also figures. out asteroids that are coming that we uh. aren't aware of because we don't have. the capability but it does so it figures. out a better way to detect asteroids and.

a better way to deflect them and then. can protect the Earth and make sure that. at least that aspect of the natural. disaster you know problem chart is going. to be solved right okay now we know we. have an iron shield like you know like. Jerusalem has right like we have an iron. shield over the Earth and no asteroids. ever going to [ __ ] us up so now we got. to deal with super volcanoes maybe AI. can do that maybe AI can say you know. what if we just drill in from under the. ocean in this direction we can relieve. some of the pressure by having the lava. go into the ocean and it'll stop this.

idea of having a [ __ ] Caldera super. volcano that wipes out everything on the. continent because those happen all the. time too right those happen every you. know whatever million years or so so are. you scared you're I mean not scared. um in acknowledgment of the the just the. full scope of possibilities but I'm also. acutely aware that I have a desire to. think that everything's going to be okay. because I'm okay right now and I think. everybody has that feeling I think. that's a human feeling but and that's. why you don't think about things like.

asteroid impacts but if we play out what. you just said if if if we buy in that. this is it like we're the last of the. this we might not be we might not but. let's just say it is yeah then what. should we be doing with our time nothing. just enjoy your life just definitely. enjoy the goddamn thing you're going to. be able to do to stop the progression. party up in here it's like stop in the. rain you're not gonna stop the rain once. it starts raining you know it's not. you're not stopping it it's the it'll. stop on its own it's the dudes playing. their instruments as the Titanic is. sinking it's like if it's happening you.

could panic and try to get to Mars or in. the Lifeboat or whatever or you could. just be like it's here it's just one of. many possibilities there's other. possibilities too one of them might be. that we Embrace psychedelics and we. change culture and and human beings. start behaving in a way that's more. consistent with what we would like to. see from an advanced civilization I just. had um Rick Dublin on my I did too I. just had him on too this mic smells like. Rick Goblin uh that guy he's the best.

he's he's been he's the trenches for. decades hearing him say that he decided. to uh get into psychedelic therapy when. he was like 18 19 years old like how did. you what how did right it wasn't even. legal back then but this guy's been on. that grind forever so the only like like. I don't [ __ ] know [ __ ] about nfts but. like I made one and just for to it was. it's like buying a painting where I. paint over like 20 times right and I. donated all that to to maps and like. that's awesome like Rick like. psychedelics saved my life it's like.

connected me to like a part of myself I. would never get to through Western uh. therapy or whatever so I've I've known. Rick for a while you know we talk here. and there and I said hey I have a show. called The Cho show you want to come on. and he came in and like because he's. been in the trenches because he's this. close to getting it he went into like. kind of politician mode and like bro. like you could do that on any other show. like yeah um what's the like the most. intimate thing we can do like I'm not. trying to [ __ ] you or anything like that. settle down.

and uh. and uh I said you know a lot of people. like for me the most intimate thing you. can do with someone is like touch their. face like you know so so we touched each. other's faces for like 20 minutes and. then the rest he's an MDMA guy that's. normal we were all I didn't have to you. know he's like let's do it so he touched. my face and I closed my eyes and I was. like this guy and like. I had a like you you could say it's. [ __ ] I had a deeper conversation. doing that than if we actually exchanged.

words so we touched our face for a long. time and then when he started talking to. me and look like like I I want to have. fun like show me how to have fun like. it's just life just grinds you down and. it's all about you know people say this. the journey from your head to the heart. is the longest journey you'll take in. your life and it's been true for me. because everything is like people apply. way too much logic right they're like. how come what the [ __ ] is that like like. the stats it doesn't match up it doesn't.

make it I'm like. feeling we're so far from feeling so I. just wanted I was like I have you on. Rick I want to feel you he touched my. face I touch his face and then we just. talked in gibberish for like an hour. like and like I. you could say we're silly goofing off. which that's part of it but it's like in. the times where words have failed me. like I could never like fully I always. feel that I can sometimes get closer. when I paint or do something like where. I express my art but like talking is.

has limited me in times and so for me to. talk to him in like Hut teas or tongues. or some weird [ __ ] that just came out of. me and just came I mean that guy's the. master and I just felt like so connected. to him in that moment and I was like. I was like what else is there to say you. know yeah no that guy's so valuable he's. the best work his work is so valuable. he's a he's the he's the man and what I. was saying earlier I didn't mean that. like somehow another that's going to. stop the inevitable that if we Embrace. psychedelics but I do think it would be.

it'd be very beneficial if we did it in. a in a way where people who understood. how to do it were administrating it to. more people not for everybody I'm not. saying it's for everybody but it's for a. lot of people well the thing what I. think is even if we do that we're still. faced with this [ __ ] real crisis of. artificial intelligence it's a real. crisis because if it gets switched if it. goes to that thing does whatever it. wants we have zero to do we have we have.

nothing to say we have we are now the. inferior species we are 100 at the mercy. of our robot overlords right and that. was you know Marshall mcluhan had a. [ __ ] amazing quote from the 1960s. said human beings are sex organs of the. Machine World. amazing. it might be true mcluhan wrote that in. like the 60s I don't think am I. paraphrasing that I don't think I am it. sounds good I think that's exactly how. he said it but like that is what we do.

man and if that's what we do like. there's so many instances of that in. nature where a thing becomes another. thing the caterpillar has no [ __ ]. idea what it's doing when it's making a. cocoon it's just doing it it doesn't. have the cognitive ability to understand. that it's making a protective Air at. least we don't think it does that's the. the ability to make a protective casing. in which it's going to morph and change. into a completely different thing with. [ __ ] wings I mean that's then it's.

going to pop out of that thing and fly. away like the most universally regarded. as beautiful insect that we have so in. the same way like a weightlifting dude. in the 50s would not recognize like a. roided out like modern super buff guy. that would be bad we're not gonna. recognize what humans are way more of a. yeah way more it'll be a way more of a. jump it might be a jump outside of the. biological hey when you get your wings. and I get my wings we're gonna fly we're. gonna have a good time we're Gonna Fly. bro we're probably gonna fly without. going anywhere that's what's going to be. really weird I think I think human.

beings are going to be able to do things. that if we stop and think about it right. now seems ridiculous I think we're going. to be able to make contact with other. life forms here it goes man becomes as. it were the sex organs of the Machine. World as the bee of the Plant World. enabling it to Funk fecundate and evolve. ever new forms the Machine World. reciprocates man's Love by Expediting. his wishes and desires namely in.

providing him with wealth it's from. understanding media 1964. Jesus mcluhan. was brilliant brilliant all right but. that that quote human beings are the. machine. the Machine World sex organs is [ __ ]. it's such a Nutty thing to think but I I. if that man it's in nature it's in so. many different there's so many different. forms of life where one form of life. takes over another form of life and uses. it to birth a new thing like aquatic.

worms that convince a grasshopper to. jump into a pool and drown so that it. can be born you've seen those right yeah. like that [ __ ] exists all throughout. nature maybe the lure of your phone oh. six hours a day what you just described. right now is actually how I view you. right like what oh no no I mean in a. like well look I also view myself that. way but you are not the same you know. like people can see someone then see. them physically but like when I see you. and I say you're beautiful like I see I.

see your soul which someone could be. like that's some hippie dippy [ __ ] but I. feel energies like once you could use. your words like I'm not like right like. I'm not an intellect scholar whatever so. you could destroy me like in a verbal. thing or someone smarter but like I'm. like what like I'm always like what. where you coming from what's your what's. your soul telling me right so you're not. the same person that you were 10 years. ago five minutes ago right so I feel. like. I don't want to call it a parasite but. like something.

you're in touch like you're in touch. with something that's created this. newest form of Joe that I'm meeting. today that's not the same guy I met like. 15 years ago it's just constant work. constant work and constant thinking well. and I spend a lot of time evaluating my. thoughts yeah you know I spent a lot of. time evaluating my why I think about. things and what what I'm thinking and. you know whether or not I'm being. influenced or whether or not I'm being. when I'm being egotistical or confused. and like why do I behave the way I.

behave like what could I do better and I. I just I'm always thinking about it and. you were and that's that's head stuff. right and you're you're already thinking. about it but then to do psychedelics. would you agree like sent it even like. 100 changes everything so marijuana. first marijuana first changed it and. then I think there's a lot of people. that go through life without any. perturbance of normal Consciousness that. are missing out on the possibilities of. looking at yourself in a way that you. you can't do without a psychedelic or.

I've never been able to maybe you can do. it with yoga or some forms of meditation. I don't want to say you can't do it I. say but I will say I've never done it so. I've never experienced like the the. Revel relations that I've had never life. through any other reform other than. Maybe. I mean there's love and childbirth and. there's some pretty profound moments. that seem very psychedelic in life. childbirth seems very sorry that's the. most surreal thing ever when you see a. baby being born into the world and the. love that you have is like you're on a. drug it's so bizarre it's so bizarrely.

psychedelic but there's there's a bunch. of those experiences that transcend Us. in the regular world you know for some. people it's a near-death experience some. people it's coming back from something. where they realize like oh my God I. almost lost everything and now I have a. newfound love and appreciation for the. world but I think psychedelics do that. without the harm and even though you did. so you've done your own psychedelics. I've we've never done it together no. like I've done it but because you've. done those things and I've done them now. we have a shared language when we meet. where it's almost.

to me might not be for you kind of. telepathic and it's like I've almost. died multiple times I've had I have. children I've I've had all those amazing. and you're right those create a euphoric. drug like and psychedelics surpasses. that by like for me like what's a. different thing it's a different thing. because it's not in this material realm. it's this this thing of whatever that. dimension of thought and beings and. Consciousness is I don't know what that.

is but it doesn't exist here right so. you can only take the information that. you get from that and bring it back to. here I think that's where a lot of. people lose some of it like it's hard to. take that they they take that experience. and like how do you apply some of that. to your life without like recognizing. that the way you're living currently is. not optimal can I can I tell you what. one of those things was for me very sure. very recently do you believe I have to. be again.

um this is something I can't I when I. watch it on YouTube or on Spotify I. don't see but like that painting of you. like I always thought that line coming I. thought it was like you had a rat tail. like Anakin Skywalker or something and. it's the it's a broken uh yeah. um yeah so let me tell you something so. um. going back to aliens aliens and the and. God and the spirit world being like. funnier than any comedian I've ever met. like that's hilarious so what you're.

just telling me so much I want to tell. people though before you yeah you did. stand up and it was very funny. you only did it once and you did it like. it was at UCLA right yeah and uh I. watched it I watched it I did it three. times I did it three times yeah okay I. only I thought at that time I think that. was the first time you did it right yeah. you were in the blue suit was it a blue. red suit red suit that's right dude it. was very funny thank you it was good I. was like this guy could be a comic thank. you and I remember I called you and I. told you that wow yeah thank you so much.

you could do that like you could do. you're one of those weird [ __ ] dudes. like Howard Stern when you start. painting you could do but I think most. of us are like that I just go all in I. just I know but that you do but that. same reason like I know I'm kind of. joking with you like why do you think. that you could win [ __ ] Survivor. because there's other people like you. out there but I know I love the fact. that you don't think there is can you. tell me if this is true I I heard that. your new comedy club which I can't wait. to check out like you have to put your. phone into that lock thing before you go. in just hearing that like just like when.

I did yeah there was cell phones the. first time I did it but like I I just to. know that you could literally say. anything you can say anything and it's. not going to come you know and do a show. dude like it's we'll put you in a little. room it's a love the little room the. little room is the [ __ ] it's the [ __ ]. most honest room in the world 120 seats. it's [ __ ] incredible so you're in. there you're like wow thinking about. doing stand-up is probably the same. reason why I still work out at like the. worst 24 hours this is what I'm trying.

to do I'm trying to get you to move to. Austin do Jiu Jitsu and do stand up what. am I trying to do to him in in in. um but to go back uh before P Break the. thing I wanted to say Okay so. my my life uh or my my experience or my. journey with psychedelics is. 35 was the first time I ever did. anything like I'd never done drugs maybe. I smoked weed once with the BJ pen like. people or something but I did it once. he's like you're not gonna smoke with. the champ bro and I'm like you gotta.

smoke with BJ oh man it's like smoking. with Snoop Dogg I took one hit of. whatever how powerful that [ __ ] was and. I couldn't move so that was it what did. you meet BJ. uh I met BJ through uh Pat from Ruka. 20 years ago maybe like. DJ so you met BJ when BJ was in his. prime oh yeah BJ printed is prime to. this day I think there was a couple of. years of BJ Penn that I would put up. against I would like to see him against. anybody at 155 pounds lived The Prodigy.

he just people they they only look at. like bad performances and I said this to. BJ when he was on the podcast if you. just look at the elite ones he was so. good he was so good and when he was. really fit like when he was doing his. strength and conditioning with the. marinovich's like during the Sean shirk. fight and the Diego Sanchez fight bro. right BJ was a [ __ ] but I know. you didn't like how I said Eddie Murphy. should quit when he whatever when I look. at my friend like BJ Penn or someone.

like Conor McGregor or Anderson so. people that just. killed it right they just they took it. elevated it from like right but why does. it they quit it's the most fun thing. ever this is what you don't understand. like there's that's the most fun thing. to do. it's the most fun but losing is fun it's. not always losing but like at the end. when they're they keep thinking they're. gonna win like me I guess like Anderson. Silva beat Julio Cesar Chavez Jr in a. boxing match when he was like 46 years.

old but like those last few that he got. his ass rocked it changes my image of. like well Anderson broke his leg. whatever he's having a great time. [ __ ] did you know the story no I know. but when he broke that the spice leg was. broke he was never the same again right. he was just not the same guy right and. weidman's KO of him also put a giant. dent in him I mean that was a big KO. wide ring caught him with that left hook. and just [ __ ] clocked him and so. going from that and you know he's. Advanced age and he's older in his later.

30s like he didn't even I don't think he. got to the UFC deal he was 34. right. which for an elite Combat Sports athlete. is like that's like the very cusp the. top like I think pajeda Alex pajeda came. at the same sort of age bracket like 34. or 30 I think he's 35 now I guess it. kind comes down to value system of what. like if you're still having a great time. but I'm talking about not just Fighters. but anyone who's operating at a high. high wire act level whether that's. comedy music fighting it's like.

no one's the goat forever right you're. gonna [ __ ] like like. but it's not even about that just do. your best no do your your best and it's. fun to do that do your best but if at. some point like people stop laughing. you're starting to lose get better. figure out what the [ __ ] you lost wow. stop being a [ __ ] what are you gonna. quit to go take naps let's go it's not. let's go David Cho first let's go first. of all I take a lot of naps and it's not. quit it's pivot it's Adept right it's. like you're gonna stand here as AI comes.

out to you and you're like no I'm still. the best no no we're talking about some. insurmountable. obstacles we're not talking about. someone's career that they've already. flourished in we're talking about an. insurmountable obstacle if you're. talking about AI you're talking about a. life form right and you're talking about. probably the new dominant life form on. Earth and probably that's probably how. life gets designed in the cosmos it. probably recognized at a certain point. in time the biological limitations of. evolution in regards to these. multi-celled organisms right but if.

evolution can convince these. multi-celled organisms to create. something synthetic right that's not. dependent on blood or bone and maybe can. live off solar energy or live off water. who knows but if if it can do that if. you can figure out that then the game's. over. the very very powerful one puff of BJ's. weed that I smoke my drug some 46 now so. the last 11 years I've done mushrooms. eight times I did Ayahuasca three times. all in one week that that was the first.

time and then very recently once again. the comedian is back God alien whatever. you want to call him and I I was. summoned by the Guardians of the plant. ioboga from from Gabon in Africa I'd. never done it I was like the last time I. did Ayahuasca which was 35 the drug told. me the medicine told me you're done. we've given you enough blueprint enough. instructions for you to do for the rest. of your life you don't need to abuse us. because you like to abuse things like. and so so I stayed off that and then my.

friend called me he's like these guys. that just are psychics that like you. know go around the world like and Miss. during these ibogus ceremonies like it's. the entire plant grind it up and I was. not I was not ready so I'm in a mental. house hospital because I just finished. filming beef I'm trying to like go back. to like you said I was very affected by. emotions I'm trying to get back to me. Dave like peaceful loving Dave and. and this guy's calling me from Mexico.

City saying I've been summoned by the. Guardians of the point sounds like a. movie and I did the most powerful psych. I mean I was high for. four days where I would go to like I. couldn't sleep I couldn't eat like. and you know not recommended for it was. it was. way way past what Ayahuasca was. and we have all humans have operating. system if we're like fleshy computers. right we're born and then you you're. taught what you're taught and then you.

kind of that's who I am and that's kind. of stuck who you are for the rest of. your life and this thing just started. making so many jokes at me like. it's like you have a living trust you. have a will like all the things that. like normal wealthy people do or. whatever. it was just laughing at me he's like you. have storage units full of what and so I. just. in that psycho psychedelic state in that.

spiritual State I was like. I have so many I'm a hoarder because of. my mom I collect a lot of [ __ ] I have. Comics I have like rare painting I have. a lot of [ __ ] where I'm never gonna sell. it and like the people like when I die. like this is anyone who has a lot of. [ __ ] they're probably not gonna know. like I have a lot of stuff that's worth. a lot to me because of the sentimental. mental value and then things that are. just actually worth a lot of money and. the thing was like why don't you just. give it away to the people who want it. while you're alive. and I was like oh [ __ ] and.

kind of like teasing me and this is like. seven months ago so I've given away like. 90 of my personal possessions like and. like there's some kid right now wearing. like I don't know why I still have my. prom suit that I lost my virginity in. like 1992 like congratulations yeah. thank you so he has he has that but in. my mind my ego goes when I die and. there's a Dave Cho Museum maybe there'll. be like a thing of like all my crazy. clothes I wore and I'm like I'm gonna.

give this to someone can you imagine. someone going to the Museum of your life. well like Hard Rock Cafe right there's. Prince's guitar but that's like. everybody that's like every band you. know yeah Freddie Mercury's mustache. comb right you know but imagine your own. like oh. and and and so like I had like a very. transformative I'm not gonna do a good. job if I'm trying to explain to you what. happened but I know that most people. will never do like that level. psychedelic but I know like. a lot of shamans they don't even do.

Ayahuasca or whatever because they're so. in touch with the nature and stuff so. I'm Gonna Save A lot of people money. right now. in all my [ __ ] upness in all the. rehabs all the this is a common thing at. like a super expensive rehab is um. there's a thing called Tre trauma. release exercise and I did this in. Arizona with this uh guy taruno and uh. from what he tells me humans and. domesticated dogs are the only animals. on the planet that after they experience.

any kind of trauma carry it in their. body for the rest of their lives wow so. you have a a cheetah chasing like a. gazelle and like getting this close like. scratching its butt like. like if that was a human you're like bro. I almost got killed by a [ __ ] you know. yeah but then you see the gazelle like a. minute later go sip some water and like. in the butts doing a little like it's. shaking that that Insanity out like oh. and then it's like it never happened. again but if we're whatever this is.

what's taught to me in it to me in my. situation it was true if you've had like. any kind of trauma you just carry that. it's it creates stress anxiety addiction. all these things and so a very common. thing and I'm giving this secret away is. you go to like an expensive rehab and. they give you a tennis racket or a. baseball bat and then you hit a pillow. or a dummy and you get that out you do. this Tre trauma release exercise and. you're like you know if you're a fighter. or a boxer you get to get it out in.

other ways but most I would say most. people have never been in a fist fight. or like bashed someone's head with a. baseball bat or you know so to just get. the emotion the feeling of hitting a a. dummy I'm like and these places are. expensive so me as an artist I go why. not make a Mannequin that looks exactly. like my abuser and and or or I take it. one step further I'm like can I just hit. a person like that's wearing pads and. they're like Dave this is like a. business like there's lawsuits and. liabilities and I go oh well you could.

do that because or you can't do that. because you're a professional but I'm an. artist so I have artistic license so a. few years ago this is before you left la. you know this was the worst. uh business decision for me because it. cost millions of dollars and this this. is what a normal art show is now like. right like like a line waiting Banksy. whoever Damien Hurst and then everyone. comes in takes a selfie they don't give. a [ __ ] about the art and then they just. post like I was there right right and so.

that same side to me does that irritate. you well there's a part of me that's. like well I want to get more likes and. more whatever but so in a way it ended. up being the best decision that I've. business decision I've ever made because. I had a show in an office building where. I rented out this entire office building. in each room I had a. I'm trying to re basically steal. everything that I learned in all these. rehabs and recontextualize it in like uh. in an artistic way like most people have.

never screamed their lungs out right and. there's movies where you go scream at. the ocean I had one where you walk in a. room. this is just like I'll give you like two. of them you walk in a room and there's a. punk band where the lead singer just. OD'd as soon as you walk in and then. they grab you and they go you need to. finish the song and the song is like. written out on the wall I spray painted. the lyrics it's like I'm the best I'm. the best I'm the [ __ ] best and. they make you keep screaming it and then. you get to be the lead singer of a of. this and that's just one room right and.

then you go in another room and it's. covered with. um sculptures like all these found. object sculptures I made. but. um I'm doing the [ __ ] thing that I. said I'm the magician giving away. um there's a guy in there and he knows. everything about you or not everything. but you know he you fill out an. application so he knows like what's. bothering you what causes you the most. stress and he goes up to you and he says. Hey Joe I know you're having some. problems right now at home or you know.

whatever your issue is he goes I I. invite you to take that out on me and. you're like what and you give you a huge. bat and you just beat the [ __ ] out of. this guy and the harder you beat him he. starts laughing and says take give me. all of it and you know he's fully. protected with police armor right but. then I made it artistic you know so you. literally get to beat the [ __ ] out of a. human and then I was like you have to. use the bat I mean the people lost their. mind they were started punching kicking. you can do that no rules dude I'm not a. [ __ ] like I'm not a legit business.

and then we took it on the road I was. like hey go to the park across the. street so the guy in this the living. sculpture goes across the street and I. had a guy with a bat and I'm like. anyone who has some [ __ ] they want to. get off their chest like a lady's. hitting this guy with the back going. what is this give me my child support. give me my [ __ ] child support oh no. like what is this uh this suit look like. it's all the like the police stuff that. it could take the impact and then I did. like uh like a sculpture on top of it so.

parts of the sculpture are like breaking. off but underneath he's protected right. Jesus correct but from a bat yeah was. the person hitting him in the head he. had it. fully neck fully this and and we told. them don't don't hit the the like what. we learned the hard way like he got one. right here but I was asking but like but. her head's gonna get rattled no matter. what just from the impact but the you. know and this is four years ago I did. this and I'm like. like the the show like I just ex just.

explained two things that happened at. the show and there was like hundreds of. rooms so this thing cost me millions of. dollars and it was so impactful for me. forget like you know like the difference. between like oh I have a million people. that went through my show and took a. selfie to like I got to connect with. people I got to share and so. look I mean you told me this on the last. time I saw you which is like Dave you. should start a patreon or do some [ __ ]. and I was like nah I'm like what I've. learned about myself about.

accountability is in the last 10 years. I've given my art away for free and. people don't appreciate free there has. to be some skin in the game right yeah I. think this like when I give away like. like a thousand dollar prints for free. they go immediately like they must not. be good right but the second I charge. money they're like oh. so like you you tell me where I should. go with this because I I'm I just. started the YouTube channel like very. recently because I'm like. I'm what are you doing on it.

I'm doing like. wacky [ __ ] dude I'm just like talking to. my inner child I'm just like on YouTube. yeah you know your inner child's not on. YouTube I know I I it's like I'm doing. like I'll do a uh I'll do a um uh like a. guided meditation on like oh that's cool. and and then I'm like but that didn't. speak to me I want to do a guided. imitation as Wolverine as Batman and. then I'll put that [ __ ] up on so just. whatever you feel like just whatever I.

feel like and then because through just. all the experiments I've done like that. experience The Cho show in the building. was free I made my TV show I have. if you if you go to the show show now I. have a paid thing now of. people. it's like I don't even know if I really. want to do it but I want some. accountability from people right like it. when things are free everything's like. uh whatever but when you have some skin.

in the game at least that's how I. operate that's always been the case with. comedy clubs like whenever they give. away the tickets for free it's always a. disaster it's never good like you want. people to be there because they're it's. worth something to them right it's an. exchange. so this is the. the first thing was the show where the. like it wasn't. um it was like I could only get like a. hundred people through a day because. it's such a intense experience for each. person and that was fulfilling for me. but if I'm trying to meet people where.

they're at in the third space and that's. online it's like how can I. how can I um. how can I teach people everything that. I've learned because. it's such a weird thing it's such a. weird feeling for me to go to a place. that costs a hundred thousand a month. and I'm like what did I really learn. there they just taught me how to feel. again they redid my operating system and. I'm like this and and then like with my. kids now and any kid now you go to. school to learn two plus two or all the.

[ __ ] that the AI is going to do anyways. and they don't teach you like how to. like get in touch with your emotions or. like express yourself in like like all. those like very simple things so we kind. of grow up robots like these like. unfeeling robots like college get. married grow up in a way that. facilitates us getting a good job. so like my life right now pre like. everything I just told you about is just. is Dad life I'm chilling like I just I I. spend a lot of time with my kids I'm.

chilling but now I like had a taste of. acting I'm like uh I I have like uh the. Youtube thing so I'm I I want to make. sure you went you acted and it you wound. up in a [ __ ] mental institution I. checked myself I checked myself you. wound up in a mental institution one I. didn't say someone dragged you there. right but you would want to go back to. doing that. if it was that seems to me Batman. Wolverine White Chicks 2 Heat 2 uh.

well actually I have this Show's not. even out yet or it might be out when but. uh like people already hitting me up. they're like you're a scene stealer. they're saying this [ __ ] and so I got a. part in the new Batman uh as the Joker. and I'm calling myself the choker. because I'm the choaster and. um the audition person is really really. [ __ ] rough and they keep having me. come back because my [ __ ] daughter. dude I'm like sitting there going all.

day I play Batman all day I play. Wolverine all day I do this [ __ ] and. it's fun I don't know if I'd have fun. like on a set like. you know cut chop his head off again cut. it's going to work the fun thing is. seeing the product right that's what's. fun about it I think I already got your. answer you're like [ __ ] acting so I. think yeah no I think I'm done I get it. for some people it's just like look some. like Jamie likes golf I've never played. golf you know what I'm saying it's like. that kind of thing there's a lot of. great things out there you just can't do. more than you're already doing if you're.

full and I'm full of stuff to do I don't. have any more stuff to do I have no room. for other stuff I'm not interested I. like watching other stuff doesn't mean I. don't like it just I'm not doing it I. don't have the time. I I guess I'm not I guess I'm pretty. full like my kids and like that life is. but there's still part of me that feels. I learned some [ __ ] yeah and I I feel. like I want to sh Maybe. share those things.

um like I would love to never podcast. again I love talking to you but like. there's a part of me that feels even. hoarderish when I learn something that. can help someone and I keep it to myself. like I've learned a lot of [ __ ] I mean. when a kid asks me today like how do I. make it in the art business I'm like. that I don't know because anything I. made it as an illustrator as a graffiti. art like none of that stuff's relevant. anymore but the stuff that has to do. with fun Feeling Again like. I mean.

dude sorry if I told the story again but. there's an art Barn at most rehabs. because most of these guys are like. strung up they like are CEOs whatever. so the one that I went to was like a. hundred grand a month so there's a lot. of multi-millionaires billionaires there. and there's an art barn and I'm like. [ __ ] yeah that's where I'm gonna escape. and like you know and they're like not. for you like what I can't go in there. and they're like no that's where you. like you know that's how you get high so. you're gonna go do something else and. I'm like [ __ ] but I would always sneak. in and try to like whatever so there's a.

dude in there and I'm not gonna say who. he is but he's like probably one of the. most powerful people on the planet he. could buy like a thousand or a billion. of these rehabs and like just. and um. and so the assignment is to like draw. like your favorite like food like you. know something from your childhood using. these acrylic paints but on the next. level is the glitter paints right and I. see this guy holding his hand and I I go. by the Art Bar and I'm like looking in.

the window like jealous I want to be in. there and I go. one of the most richest powerful men in. the planet is asking permission right. now if he can use the glitter paint. and I'm like. and I go. that's it because my kids don't ask for. permission right my kid will go into my. closet and put on every single piece of. clothes and come back and and I'm like. I'm gonna do that when's the last time I. did that eight seven years old and I go.

and I put on like all my underwear like. and I just we have and then I've rolled. down the stairs and I go permission. granted like people really don't they. forgot how to have fun they forgot how. to like be goofy but if you're like some. CEO guy maybe he wants that he wants to. ask permission for things seem like the. same way some of those guys want to get. kicked in the balls by dominatrix right. some of those guys they like it's like. you were saying you had so much [ __ ]. you almost wanted to suck a dick like.

some of those guys have so much power. they want someone to yell at them and. humiliate them they've become tyrants. they've become Kings they've become a. master of their domain and it feels. imbalanced to them probably and that's. probably why they seek out getting. humiliated but you walk this you so like. you know Elon Musk I mean you walk like. I feel like we're similar in that way. like I can go work out at the worst 24. Hour Fitness and then also be in rooms. with those people. the rich and the poor are not that. different mentally I I find your your.

mentality changes with the lack of fear. of not having any money yeah you know. and some people it doesn't some people. they they always think about how they. used to be poor and they can never get. over the anxiety of the possibility. going back to being poor so they just go. on like a Mad Dash to having a [ __ ]. heart attack right you know and other. people said you seem settled in now. though I think I'm pretty settled then. too I'm settled in I think I have I. gotta wrap this up my brother yeah yeah. no no worries almost 5 p.m so acting. done yeah I'm not interested and then.

YouTube channel thumbs up or thumbs up I. like it yeah I want you to do whatever. you want to do and if that's what you. want to do yeah definitely thumbs up. it'd be fun I'm sure it'll be chaos and. then podcasts and also like it'll grow. and evolve too like if you do a YouTube. channel you'll you're a very analytical. guy you'll look at it and decide oh now. I want to try this now I'll try that and. then you have this platform now and you. developing the platform completely. independently from other people's ideas. you could do whatever the [ __ ] you want. don't want to get devoured by work right. you don't have to so YouTube channel and.

then podcast the show show stay the [ __ ]. away from acting and no more acting yep. there it is all right thank you my. brother it's always a pleasure to talk. to you we are The Hot Zone oh yeah thank. you that's for you bro thank you thank. you man [ __ ] yeah man [ __ ] yeah now the. real podcast is gonna start. [Music]. [Applause]. foreign. [Music].