Joe Rogan Experience #1941 - Bridget Phetasy

[Music]. by night. [Music]. hello what's happening my friend I'm. back you're back with the baby again. just momming and working did you get any. sleep I don't look like it. I'm like how do I get rid of these. circles under my eyes.

um not really because I try to work and. write in particular after she goes down. for she's sleeping which is great right. it's weird how like is she sleeping. that's the you know everybody asks you. that question when you have a kid yeah. well once you have kids you realize like. there's for the first. x amount of days or years like you're. just in a fog yeah where you just you. don't know what's going on because. you're just that mommy brain thing's. real it is and it's the sleep. deprivation like I I think you pull your.

head out of your butt like in different. ways so I feel like I just was came came. to a bit and I'm like what's going on. with my business like I ended up having. to pay this ridiculous I can't even get. into it because I like burn the whole. thing down but it was a ridiculous tax. that you're generally exempt from if you. file by a day which why do you even have. this rule that punishes small businesses. who are usually drowning and it's easy. to miss this stupid arbitrary date and.

so the city of La came after me and they. basically shook me down for like four. thousand dollars and I was like I ca. this [ __ ] keeps me up at night Joe yeah. I just can't it's just an LA thing it's. the city of La thing yeah they have. their own business tax renewal you have. to get a life sense that you renew even. if you make under three hundred thousand. dollars as like an artist you're exempt. from this which I'm exempt from this and. so I'm like why do I have to pay so then. it's penalties and fee I cannot I can't.

tell you I can't tell you how. this it like I will stare at my ceiling. in bed just enraged and it's most I as a. business owner I'm like I've got it the. Buck has to stop with me I want to blame. everyone and sure this is a [ __ ]. [ __ ] law and I maybe my tax guy. should have been more aware of this and. I love him though I'm not blaming him. either and it has to stop with me and so. this is one of those things that.

probably just fell through the cracks. because I had a baby and. so the tax guy didn't know about it he. did but so I'm I'm not exactly sure why. why we thought we were filing for that. exemption and time because and it might. be because they were sending me because. I was a before I Incorporated I was a. just self-employed and so I had to file. as a self-employed worker they kept. sending me a little card to renew my.

license but it was to me personally so. he very well could have thought that we. were renewing it but it wasn't for the. corporation it was for me personally. it's like such a I it's I can't it's I'm. not I'm not a rich person you know. that's like and it's money that could go. I was like I was saying to my husband. like I'd rather go give that four. thousand dollars to like a homeless. person under the freaking Highway than. the city of La which is just gonna set. it on fire the way they shake things.

down. so the the all the different taxes and. regulations it's a mafia you don't. realize how bad it is until you get away. from it it's legalized Mafia though my. friends out of California for five years. and they're coming after him for back. taxes. oh my God and they're just they'll just. take it out of here they'll like garnish. your wages well did you see the thing. that they were trying to do where they. were trying to tax people once they. leave California they were trying to. pass out a lot yeah which is so wild.

even if you left you still owe us money. yeah that you would have spent if you. were here but you're not here but so. what we want the money. it's just slimy it's just bureaucracy. this is legalized Mafia tactics though. and there's no recourse there's really. nothing I I called I talked to a very. nice woman I never blame the people who. are just enforcing these ridiculous laws. and I was like is there anything I can. do and she said well you might be able.

to apply for an exemption on your. um penalties you get a one-time kind of. exemption and I was like what about all. of the taxes which I would be exempt. from and she's like there's absolutely. nothing you can do like it's like once. it's set in stone I'm like how is anyone. and doing this as a small business. because anyone who has a small business. knows you're it's it's you're always. particularly when you're not making like. millions of dollars and have lots of.

people doing this stuff for you you're. always trying to just keep up with all. of the things that you have to manage. well it's so different than any other. business like running a state because. any other business you would say well. where are unnecessary expenses we need. to Pare them down we have to figure out. like what what makes things profitable. what's necessary what's not and with. bureaucracy they don't do that instead. they have so many people we need to. figure out new ways to suck money out of.

these poor people that are stuck rooted. literally rooted in this state so let's. just like figure out ways let's raise. the tax so they raise the taxes estate. taxes now are 14 which is so hot that's. crazy so high when you can just go to. Nevada and it's zero you just drive over. there four hours and you don't have to. pay anything which is like a lot of my. friends did I have a lot of friends that. moved to Nevada I actually know a lot of. people too that's been one of the big. Exodus States Nevada is actually nice.

like if you and if you live outside of. the strip you know like Henderson and. there's a few of those other Town. they're nice towns they're really nice. places to live yeah there's really. beautiful kind of up in the Hills area. oh yeah gorgeous yeah hiking and. mountains that's the same as Vegas. there's a lot of nice like hiking and. yeah that's what we're talking about. we're talking about Vegas oh yeah I. thought you were talking about Reno no. Reno too yeah well Reno you have Tahoe. yeah you have you have a lot of.

beautiful areas in like that's near Lake. Tahoe I don't know why I was thinking. Reno. but Vegas itself is you know it's gross. in the strip yeah because the traffic. and all the gambling and all the you. know people just just trying to do Coke. and party and lose all their money I've. oh I get spiritually sick when I go to. Vegas I know it sounds ridiculous but I. always joke like I know where all the. great chicken noodle soup is on the. strip I end up like the sad girl always.

in Vegas even when I was even when I was. using drugs and drinking I would end up. in a hotel room looking at all the you. know fountains and all the lights just. sick and it was like as we would be. driving there I would be getting just a. fever more and more sick I'm like I. swear to God my I get like a soul. sickness when I go to Vegas if I wasn't. in the business that I'm in I probably. wouldn't like to go there at all but you. know I go there for fights because.

there's fights there all the time it's. one of the best place in the world for. fights and then I do shows there yeah so. for me it's just I just go to dinner. there's all amazing places to eat there. yep and good shows yeah great shows yeah. I have fun when I go and do I think the. last time I was there actually was to do. a show is like that midnight show that. they do kind of off like back it was fun. it was a good crew I like the I like I. like that you get a mixed cry proud from. kind of all over America yeah I think. the Crowds Are there to have fun and.

laugh and they're on vacation most of. them yeah yeah yeah but whenever the. locals are cool I've had some dark times. there though too well it's definitely a. dark city in a lot of ways I mean when. you have a city that's advertised it's. like what happens in Vegas stays in. Vegas yeah like that was the whole thing. yeah for the longest time are they still. is that they're still I think they. abandoned that once the internet came. along they went actually it doesn't. really stay here. I so one time I lost a shoe when I was.

in Vegas and I was I went down to the I. forget where we were staying it was one. of the big hotels on the strip and I. went down to Lost and Found to see if. they had it and this place was like. it was insane there were just lockers. and it was a little old woman with this. huge giant Ledger that looked like. something out of a movie and I went in. there I was like oh my God what's the. craziest thing anyone has ever left here. and she didn't even hesitate she said.

someone left their prosthetic leg for. three days. [Music]. foreign. crutches going what did I do with it. amazing didn't even hesitate she had an. answer to it immediately I know I was. like the stuff you must get that gets. lost here oh my God yeah imagine he's. just I just I immediately in my mind. went through a montage of like him at. the strip club without his leg and then.

being like bro where did I leave my leg. I like how you assume it's a guy. it had to be a guy right I feel like. yeah I feel like women would be keeping. track of their leg I don't know women. losing their purses all the time. though a guy losing his leg makes a guy. I just feel like guys I feel like she. told me I was a man I don't think I. assumed his gender. I think she said a guy left his leg here. for three days yeah it's not a place.

that I would move to but I'm there so. often I've thought about buying a house. there I thought about because I'm always. staying in hotels I'm like maybe I would. enjoy the Vegas experience more if I had. a house outside the strip if I had money. I would have houses everywhere just so. you didn't have to pack I [ __ ] hate. packing just show up and have your. clothes there that's worth worth money. it's nice getting on a plane with. nothing but your wall your phone yeah I. when I dated the rich guy he just was. like he refused to pack basically so he.

just was all about like I'm just gonna. buy a place in Maui I'm gonna buy a. place and I'm gonna buy a place in. London so that I don't have to pack I'm. like wow yeah I mean he's very wealthy. that's Ballers but that I I would if I. had that kind of money absolutely I. would but the problem is then you have. to think about this [ __ ] house that's. over there and [ __ ] that's going wrong. with it and this you do trust me you. Outsource people to think yeah and then. you have to make sure. one of the most baller things I ever saw.

was one of my friends very wealthy got a. new house and they just had the people. make sure that everything was stocked so. he he basically went made sure they were. doing all the things that he wanted them. to do to the house and then showed up. and it was like Christmas for me when I. was opening all the cabinets in the. kitchen I'm like how did they know and. his whole kitchen was stocked with. everything his refrigerator every all. the Linens I'm like this is this is. baller just being able to like show up. in a house and have it set up for you. like the whole thing is like a Christmas.

present yeah there's pros and cons I. guess to that yeah the cons is you're. dealing with a bunch of people as long. as you have a bunch of people that are. good at their job yeah yeah that'll be. good but then you have to think about. them this ecosystem that you're. responsible for I like how I'm not like. I would save lots of poor people I'm. like I would have a house everywhere. with my own clothes so I don't I just. hate packing even even for this trip. because now I'm packing for a little one.

and we're in a hotel which I don't know. if you've ever lived in a hotel with a. under 10 month old. but it's challenging when it comes to. nap time and you don't have like an. extra room to go in so we're like What. are we gonna do I guess we're just gonna. like sit here and read yeah but you. can't even really read other than on a. device because you have to keep it dark. and so we're feeding her and I brought I. had to pack like a little drying rack.

for her bottles and it looks hilarious. in there I'm like we're gonna make do we. brought her little like tray for her for. her stroller and we're feeding her and. it's fun I'm like devices the way to go. anyway I don't I I need to read books. yeah but you know those books like those. what are the the Kindles the when they. it looks like paper those things are the. [ __ ] my husband's all about his Kindle. it's so much better because you could. keep 150 [ __ ] books on this little. tiny thing yeah and the battery lasts.

forever and you anytime you want a book. you get it instantly yeah Jaren that's. pretty much how he oh he only reads on. his Kindle he loves it I I like the. paper books but it's probably why I. don't read as much as he does yeah but. it is great I mean paper books are cool. it's like having a physical thing is. nice and turning pages is nice but. there's no like especially if you're. traveling there's no better thing than a. Kindle when I used to travel and. backpack my half my stuff was like books.

I'm like why why am I doing this there's. there's ways to minimize the amount of. books I'm lagging around but part of it. was fun you would leave a book here and. take a book and like the little hostels. or wherever you stayed bless you excuse. me. that was a good one that was one that. like stressed my back I actually saw. that did you yeah thank God we're not in. the kova days remember during the kova. day someone would sneeze never would. Panic no no God they mind [ __ ] us. people are still like that in L.A oh my.

God I saw somebody walking across the. street yesterday with a mask on out here. I try to be good faith benefit of the. doubt like maybe they have a cold and. they're trying not to spread it yeah. maybe we're just more more aware of that. stuff now if you're sick you're just. trying not to get other people sick yeah. yeah well listen. um I freak out when it's like cancer. parents yeah yeah you know compromise. there's a guy in our neighborhood Who. from. um I had this conversation with Jaren.

again I was like look because he was. like he's in a mask walking why and I. was like hey look maybe and I just. listed all the things I listened to you. and he was like no because he wasn't. like that before the pandemic I used to. see him all the time I was like damn it. well there's a lot of people there's a. lot of people like that they just never. came back they just they're committed to. this idea that it's also like there's. this narrative that was being. established that if you're wearing a. mask you're a good person yeah and but. despite all of the evidence it shows.

that They Don't Really Work especially. when you walk around with those stupid. surgical masks on. I think I wore a bandana for like the. whole early part of the the pandemic. which just made me look cool that did. nothing well it's good because you can. keep it around your neck yeah and it's. not horrible and they just pull it up. when you have to but people realize it. was just well we were like signaling. right we were signaling hey we're trying. to be a good person we know this is. weird times you know we're all right but. then there was a few of us that had had.

coveted like hey this is crazy like this. is not much different than having the. flu like we never do that with the flu. if you go it used to be they probably. should with the flu yeah way more likely. to kill children way more likely to. affect pregnant women yeah well old. people are covered covet is rough yeah. it's rough on fat people rough on old. people the fats and the olds yeah that's. those the ones that got it and people. with bad vitamin D and bad immune. systems and you know and poor diet and.

the thing is the the crazy thing is like. all these people wanted to fix it with a. drug you know that was the comp the. conversation that I had with Peter Hotes. on the podcast when I asked him like do. you take care of yourself and it turned. out he didn't at all like he eats junk. food he doesn't take vitamins barely. exercise he would walk a little bit. isn't that what they're trying to do now. with like obese kids recently came out. they're like you can get surgery for. these kids who are under 12. 12 years. old and it's like or tell them to go get.

their fat asses outside and play doing. that to a child doing that surgery to a. child is [ __ ] criminal like there's a. way to avoid this this idea that you. can't avoid this by giving them healthy. food is so [ __ ] stupid it's so. mind-blowingly stupid and I don't. understand it other than money I mean I. try to be like as objective as possible. like maybe there's a reason why they're. doing this but there's not there's. there's no reason that makes sense other. than doing this because of money they. want to make money yeah they want to.

make money yeah there's money in there's. money in medicines yeah like that's why. they keep pushing the semi-glue tied now. you see that everywhere yeah I've heard. about it yeah we talked about on the. podcast 34 of what you lose is muscle. bone mass and connective tissue. literally 34 no it's crazy I mean there. might be a way to mitigate that with uh. weight training while you're doing it I. don't know it kind of makes sense like. if you're doing that and you're also. weight training but there's no free. lunch there's no biological free lunch.

when it comes to a quick fix for. something that has to do with you're. putting the wrong things into your body. your body's reacting in a very negative. way it seems dangerous to try and make. people think that they can just take a. pill or have a surgery to fix their. problems it is dangerous but it's also. it's a sign of being captured by an. industry there's an industry that relies. on human beings and their illnesses in. order to generate vast amounts of wealth. yeah and that's what they're doing.

they're they're further feeding this and. this this industry he was propped up. during covet in a massive way that the. amount of money generated during covid. for the pharmaceutical industry was. [ __ ] tremendous and so when they're. trying to figure out new ways to you. know expand their income this is a way. to expand their income look at all these. obese people that were you know. unnaturally or you know. disproportionately affected by covid why. don't we figure out a way to fix them. with drugs and then we could sell them. the drugs and that's what they're doing.

or sell them the surgeries or sell them. the treatments and the treatment is. don't eat [ __ ] horrible things I know. and people will say food deserts and all. these other problems and but I still. think it's easy I mean I don't know I. still think it's it's easier to eat well. it just takes a little bit more time. generally it just doesn't taste as good. that's what it is like if you really. want a milkshake and a [ __ ] Big Mac. and Fries that's what you want right and.

then if instead you're eating a salad. with grilled chicken on it you're like. [ __ ] this I don't I was I was a weird. like drunk person who craved salads so I. I would be like I want a Greek salad. right now it's just a I I was that's why. you're like that I mean I I think we got. a lot a pretty healthy dose of fat. shaming growing up it just in our in our. family it was it was just around from. the grandparents grandparents fat shame.

they didn't fat shame specifically it. was more just the you know like my. grandmother had a pillow you can never. be too rich or too thin and it was just. an embroidered pilly pillow that she had. that I but I'm like I wonder what that. imprinted in my young mind and you could. definitely be both of those things. you could be too rich if you're too rich. then you're some [ __ ] alien that no. one can relate to and everybody's gonna. have it yeah all this money yeah or any. of those guys Bezos yeah Bill Gates any.

of those people that have insane amounts. of money you're a [ __ ] Target yeah. you know and when you're having Bridges. taken down because your yacht is so big. you can't pass through the bridge yeah. we cover that on dumpster fire all the. time apparently they abandoned that idea. well because they were throwing eggs at. him in his yacht and stuff like that and. the people were very angry and they were. not having it I don't know I don't know. what they were thinking I'm like didn't. they take this into account when they. were building this thing or did they. just assume that they could take it down.

because he's the richest guy I wonder. what the conversation was I wonder if he. said hey uh I want the most baller yacht. ever and they're like we got you fam and. that was the end of the conversation and. then they're like we're gonna have to. disassemble this bridge and he's in his. office like what they're gonna do what. a bridge well I don't know about it like. hopefully nobody will notice. guys are really truly and I did see this. even. referenced earlier just you get so used. to getting whatever you want and never.

hearing no it like damages your brain. yeah there's it's not good to never hear. no in your life even as a child and even. as an adult yeah you know you have to. there need to be there. when was the last time you heard no Joe. all the time yeah I feel like I feel. like you hear I feel like you're pretty. grounded like for somebody but again you. aren't like. multiple billionaires no I found myself. too yeah this is very important you hang.

out with the pores yeah hang out with. the pores yep and also like I don't you. know I'm not even though I'm I'm wealthy. I don't live like that to for the most. part like I'm not going to those parties. and yeah jet around and there's a thing. that people do where they get in that. those the groups of people and then. those are their new uh that's their new. ecosystem they're around those people. all the time that's that's their. Community yeah and then you're keeping. up with the Joneses and oh I'll never. forget being in Sandro Bay and being.

with that guy and he was the the so. wealthy from my perspective who was like. a Backpacker with a car that was leaking. in my garage and maybe seven dollars in. my bank account and he felt poor in San. Tropez looking at all these Yachts. coming in because when you're a couple. of hundred millionaire it's still. nothing compared to Billy what's that. there's that comparison that's like a. million dollars I always batch this it's. like what's the minutes yeah a million. dollars is like 14 minutes and a billion.

is 33 years or something like that what. is it like a dollar a minute a thousand. dollars a minute whatever it is you mean. you add it up trillions or many many. many years years yeah and and these are. multiple billionaires so it's it's it's. just another I we were he was like. looking yacht shopping and it was. ridiculous I've I've got to do really. crazy things for for a poor. um I always joked it was like visiting. the zoo of the 0.001 and when he was.

yacht shopping actually a brahmovich is. that huge he's you know had the biggest. yacht kind of traditionally in the world. for a long time and it came into the San. Tropez like Harbor or whatever and it. dwarfed these men and when you're. actually down on the a boat when this. thing comes in it is it's like a it's. like a tanker it's huge yeah and I can. you can almost like hear all of the the.

erections just deflate of the guys and. the Yachts around I feel like you could. just feel the. well the problem is with those people. it's like that is their currency their. currency is like how they Define. themselves as being successful it's all. numbers so if you're playing that game. like the more numbers the person has. they win even even if you have all the. trappings of wealth all the beautiful. stuff you could eat wherever you want. you can fly wherever you want you have a. wonderful time you can relax you don't.

have the stress of having to pay your. bills or pack yeah or pack you know when. you're playing that game the people that. have more win and so you're always like. in this weird [ __ ] game where you're. trying to keep up with the most wealthy. people on the planet but that if you go. on vacation like we went to Italy and. you see some of these Yachts that are. like outside of um these islands and you. know it's it's it's crazy it's crazy to. imagine that these people feel poor. compared to someone who pulls in with a.

bigger one yeah they and insecure you're. like oh I'm not making enough it's crazy. right I mean a gold digger with you and. she might jump ship in the middle of the. night and swim over the other boat. you wake up you're like where'd she go. she had a bikini in that big yacht. [ __ ] and it's Leo you're like. damn it God damn it Leo struck again. well if she's over 30 you don't even. have to worry about Leo left over like. 23. yeah yeah 30.

remember the the photos of Jeff Bezos. and uh his girlfriend. yeah she was like smiling at him and. then Jeff Bezos like was joking around. about pushing him off a cliff like yeah. but like you don't have to worry about. her bro she's 50. yeah yeah and you. could see him do it you could see her. doing like the cost benefit analysis. like Leo or richest man in the world. well also like can't even keep Leo. you're not that's not gonna work no you. know it could be like 19. you well even.

if you're 19 as soon as you hit 24 he's. gonna be shopping have you seen like all. the stuff the inner these this is where. the Internet Is So Glorious they make. these like charts and graphs of every. single one of his ex-girlfriends and. when and they broke up at what age and. it's always like 23 he's like oh sorry. we didn't probably want to do something. with their life or they want to get. married or they want to settle down or. they just want to find meaning we were. joking on dumpster fire about how I my. theory is that's how he feels he's like.

how because I'm like he's this like Eco. Warrior on his yacht which don't get me. started but I was like maybe he feels. like by taking their fertile years he's. like diminishing the population. they're still fertile no they're still. fertile yeah at 23rd there's no there's. no he's having fun and you're allowed to. have fun you know of course what's. fascinating to me is that people get mad. at him for dating 19 year olds but. because he's 50 or whatever he is he's. close to 50 right it's 50 years. six seven and eight something like that.

that's a big difference it's a giant. difference but here's the thing if it. was the other way if it was a 19 year. old guy and a 48 year old woman ever be. like you go girl nobody would be upset. at all well I think there is an example. of this in Hollywood and I do feel like. people also are like that's gross to her. too I can't remember who it is it. doesn't stick doesn't doesn't land no. one's no one's feeling bad for that dude. no no one is feeling no but they still. can't hear a guy I'm not feeling bad for.

her there's and I don't think people are. feeling bad for these 19 year old girls. either I think I think more they feel. like the older person is a bit of a. predator so I think that I know she gets. called a predator this woman that I was. reading about yeah who I Who Her Name. Escapes me because I know you're talking. about yeah yeah I was like it's kind I I. mean I've been in that age gap before. and it's my editor and I were talking. about it uh for spectator he and I were. like going back and forth because he's. like oh what's the big deal I'm like.

it's kind of gross like not I was like. 23 I don't have a problem with because. but for some reason 19 I'm like that's. teetering on yeah if it is what it is. though it's like really though yeah. would you want no I definitely would not. want my 19 year old dating a 50 year old. billionaire but it's the thing about I'm. not even a billionaire I don't know is. he I don't know what he's work I mean I. thought that would matter but he's. probably pretty close but it doesn't. it doesn't bother me the way it bothers.

some people because I feel like. I mean it depends on who the guy like. you know if you're dealing with some. sort of a situation where you feel like. that person's being forced to do things. or being exploited or you know right no. I mean they're just all having fun. together like I don't I'm not sure Kate. beckinsdale doesn't she date a bunch of. really young guys I mean she was dating. P Davidson yeah she was dating some. other guy that I know and he was really.

young too but [ __ ] handsome guys and. everybody's like you go girl yeah you. know no I I I was thinking about this. and I don't know why 19 is different for. me than 23. it just it was like he was. kind of bordering on dirty old man and I. feel like 19 tips you into dirty old man. a bad age Gap and I've definitely I was. saying to matter I'm like I don't know. there was just always this moment when I. was with guys who are that much older. than me when I I distinctly remember it. when I noticed the elasticity of the.

skin their skin or the lack thereof it. was like this weird thing where I was. like what am I doing. Disney the skin isn't it funny because. that's biology yeah that's your body. saying like this guy's got bad loads. he's gonna he's gonna give me a [ __ ]. up kid with his bad loads or just there. was something it's something no matter. how much money and how handsome and how. successful they were there was just. something where I'd be like and maybe. it's just me but I I was in my Prime you.

know tight I'm not in my Prime anymore. [Laughter]. um but when I was everything was like. taught and when you're when a woman's in. her prime it's so fun it's just such a. fun time to be a woman especially in the. west and you know girls girls going wild. and I just remember being like. I don't know if I can it's a weird time. this is a long-term thing with social. media it's weird now because like people. actually make a living by being in their.

Prime like if you're a woman in your. Prime now there's only fans and there's. all these different Social Media stuff. [ __ ] strange. influencers and I'm I'm grateful I think. of how glad I am that I came of a I'm so. worried about I'll probably be turning. to you later in life when I'm like how. do you navigate this with girls because. I don't know how you do so that you keep.

them somewhat innocent somewhat. protected somewhat how do you keep them. from like. really thinking that this is the. messaging they're getting is like. who's the biggest star Kim Kardashian is. the person that is is making tons of. money and all these women are making so. much money on only fans and how do you. tell your daughter how do I tell my. daughter like. there's that's not necessarily a way you. want a path you want to go down.

yeah it's it's very tricky because also. working in an office all day doing a job. you hate being exhausted at the end of. the day and being drained and making. very little money is also not a path you. want to go down but that's a traditional. path right and it's obviously it has. nothing to do with your your the way you. look and you know your your pictures on. Instagram like that's not generating you. it's not like you're a sex object that's. generating you this money but if you're. a woman that is if you're any person.

that's doing a job that you hate and. it's incredibly time consuming and taxes. you emotionally you're there all day. you're working in this very bizarre. power structure where you have to adhere. to certain social rules and regulations. and it's your whole life because it's. most of your day yeah like the idea that. it's only eight hours a day is not true. you also have commuting and most these. people that if you work in a significant. job you probably have to work overtime. or you're on salary so you're working on. weekends you have projects you have to.

work on look put together I have friends. that have worked in Hollywood you know. against Studios and stuff like that and. that work is never over no you take it. with you on the weekends you're always. exhausted you know you're telling me. that they should probably sign up for. only fans well it's like what do you. want to do with your time I mean you can. look Kim Kardashian's a good example. like Kim Kardashian as much as people. like to give her a hard time she's. worked very hard to get innocent people. released from prison no I she's done a.

lot of positive things yep. she really has no I'm I'm I'm just. wondering about the. The Cauldron well just it's. when I was pushing back and like showing. my boobs online one of the things I. hated was that you can't this idea that. you can't be smart and naked for a woman. I always push back against that like. stupid it is stupid yeah um you can't be. an intellectual and you can't show your. boobs you can you can be both I and a.

lot of men have pushed back and said. well boobs are a sexual thing it's not. the same as men and that's a whole other. discussion but. I I still I think there was a moment. where I was doing a little bit of both. like boobs online and waiting tables and. there was something waiting tables was. Soul crushing in a different way but it. I didn't feel. there was something you wouldn't didn't.

feel exploited. it wasn't I was I would be guilty of. self-exploitation right. um if that's even a thing which feels. like a weird thing but I think you can. exploit yourself sure and and I don't. feel like I was necessarily exploiting. myself but then. when I saw I don't know that you know my. husband and I were just talking about. this we started a podcast called factory. settings and we were just having a. discussion about porn and I was like. every time I look at porn I feel. like grind there's something in me that.

I feel it's like going to Vegas I feel. like my soul gets a little bit sick or. something I can't explain it it's just a. feeling and I and I feel like on the. other side of that even if I was like oh. this is just tasteful nudes like they're. still random guys jerking off to that. out there. and what costs does that have. on my spirit or my soul isn't that weird. that that's a weird thing to it's a. weird thing to even think of like it's.

the whole porn discussion is very. strange right because everybody wants to. have sex people enjoy sex it's a. biological urge but filming it and then. showing it to other peoples where the. real problem comes in. and I again there seemed to be kind of. grades of it you know it's like. what I would was doing online would be. like positively adorable by today's. standards it's like boobs and bum shots.

you're never gonna find a picture of my. vajayjay out there but isn't it funny. fashion that there's something about. that like that part showed the vagina. and then all sudden oh like that was. Hustler that was the thing about Playboy. didn't show [ __ ] that you really yeah. you just saw like the kind of the door. yeah to the [ __ ] you never got to open. the door and see inside the house the. Hustler was like let's turn all the. lights on and like coming let's see your. womb literally yeah yeah no that it's.

some it's like I'm so thinking about all. this because I'm trying to write a book. and it's all about like I don't know if. how to explain my life to my daughter. and how do I have conversations with her. about sex and love and marriage and. um this in particular is I don't think. and then I wrote that piece that I. regret being a [ __ ] and got a lot of. pushback from people.

[ __ ]. um personal feelings there's nothing how. can someone give you pushback from your. personal feelings of what you regret. well the art the argument is that did I. regret it at the time or am I only. looking back at it and regretting it now. that I'm older but I'm like that's the. nature of regret yeah but it's also. you're not usually regretting things. like in real time but isn't that about. the way Society our society Western. Society particularly American society.

criticizes that because in European. culture sex has looked very differently. than we look at it even in Canada they. look at sex very different than we look. at it it's not shameful for girls to. engage in sex or want sex yeah in a lot. of countries it's totally normal and. natural right and they have completely. different thoughts about it like in some. countries they'll show porn late night. on television I remember that I was I. was watching porn I forget what country. it was in. might have been Germany but I was. probably Germany flipping to the.

channels late at night and I was there. was porn on TV I was like this is crazy. like this is wild it's like regular TV. but it's normal for them. you know and but it wasn't crazy porn. it's just people having sex. yeah so do you think that we just have a. more unhealthy relationship to sex. America yeah we do we have a Puritan I. mean our society was founded yeah with. the the those sort of Puritan values. right and those the The Echoes of those.

they reverberate for generations and. generations of course and it affects you. know because your grandparents had a. thought about it and your parents had a. different thought about it and it slowly. you know we're we're you know having. conversations about it and it sort of. changes the way the overall culture. views it and thinks about and some. people think it's empowering for a woman. to do something like only fans because. you can make all this money and it's a. business and why shouldn't you.

capitalize on that and you're not being. exploited you're exploiting yourself and. you're doing it willingly and you're. making all this money and isn't that. better than working at Wendy's you know. there's those those kind of arguments I. mean those aren't the only two options. you know it's not a binary when these. are true or I I don't yeah that's I. think a lot about this because there. seems to be kind of a pornification of. everything so I don't know if it's an. over correction one of the things I did. push back against when I was when I was.

posting news online was this kind of. Puritan ideal that we have about sex and. what in a particularly like a woman's. sexuality and I think the the there's. been a lot of progress in that. department but is now an over an over. correction. because. there's this idea of luxury beliefs Rob. Henderson writes a lot about this it's. brilliant and when I interviewed the. women's Liberation Front when they came. on my podcast they were talking about we.

look at what people who consider. themselves allies do with their own kids. as opposed to what they say so I think. it's very easy to be like sex work is. work everybody should be able to do that. it's it's like okay I'm just writing. about that recently oh really Murphy. yeah Megan Murphy wrote something about. this whole idea of calling it sex work. instead of prostitution like you she. wrote about it very recently okay. because you know she had that. um debate with that woman who's on Lex.

freedman's podcast. I don't know he said it and I thought I. was pronouncing it one way and then I. heard Lex say and I realized I must have. been saying her name wrong yeah that's a. that's a tricky one you know because. like I feel like people should be able. to do whatever they want to do like if. you want look if you can have sex with. someone for free why why can't you have. sex with someone for money I just I. don't think that anybody should be able. to tell you what to do but as soon as. that happens then you open the door to. pimps you open the door to your.

predators are exploiting women and. selling them and taking all their money. and becoming very wealthy from them it. almost always hurts poor women so when. you sit in your mansion and say yeah. let's let men self ID into women's. prisons that affects a population of. women that you don't really give a [ __ ]. about or have to worry about this is. never going to affect you that's the. wildest [ __ ] that's going on this is a. transgender movement this idea that you. can murder women be self-identified as a.

woman and then you don't have to even. take hormones you get erections you have. sex with women in prison it's crazy I. think Constantine had a really funny. tweet about that where he's like it's I. would like someone to do a study on how. many people. experience gender dysphoria in the. courtroom when they're being sentenced. you know AI yeah excuse me I'm a female. now you're dealing with liars and. murderers and con artists and criminals. and of course they're going to find a.

way to exploit this little loophole and. this new loophole that didn't exist a. decade ago yeah I think people who are. voting for these in particular in. California you're seeing so many of. these policies get put into law and. they're going to have long-term effects. and Abigail schreier just did a whole. long form article on uh where it was. that she just was writing about how. they've kind of decriminalized. prostitution basically so they've made.

it harder for the police to if they see. some something a young girl who looks. like she might be in pimped to actually. intervene and stop and she in her. article is like who is this even helping. in this in this law but again she. mentions this in her article it's. generally hurts poor for women who don't. really have a voice these laws so and. this is this idea of luxury beliefs you. can you can afford to have this belief. because it's not really going to affect.

you or your daughter as the women from. women's Liberation Front said are these. women who are out there saying sex. workers work yes queen go do it are they. encouraging their daughters to go into. sex work no they're encouraging them to. go to USC and become a film maker. they're encouraging them to get into. Harvard they're encouraging them to go. the only thing a lot of the people that. are saying that don't have daughters. oh that's a good point I think there's a. lot of that I think there's a lot like.

this oh there are liberal women yeah. this this view of things it's like sort. of based on like you don't have a. mistake in the game yeah yeah there's a. I see a lot of that with older liberal. women that have children that have these. views on things like they saw that yeah. don't have children I meant um like you. see I've seen some of those arguments. about drag queen shows for kids like. family friendly drag queen shows which. is a very bizarre thing it's very.

bizarre that that is more that's not a. singular event that that's just there's. a lot of that going around when I've. seen this argument that where people are. saying like you know I would want my you. know child to grow up and know that you. can express yourself in any way possible. okay well how would you feel about. family-friendly strip shows right where. you have biological women that are. sticking their ass out and put put a. dollar in her g string Billy you know.

like you you'd be weirded out by that. right well it's not much different. because it's sexualized like a drag. queen show in a lot of ways is. sexualized and so you're you're. sexualizing this idea of these men many. of them have Auto gynophilia they like. they get a sexual Kank out of dressing. up as women and then they're doing that. in front of children and then the. children are so like it's one thing to. say hey they should be able to do. whatever they want people love drag. queen shows you should definitely be.

able to do that if you're a grown man. but is another thing to say let's take. children to see this and encourage this. and also encourage these children to. participate and to go and give them. money and and you know I've seen these. drag queen shows where there's a woman a. trans woman or a drag I don't know how. they identify but with a g string and. high heels with the Stars covering their. nipples and they have giant fake tits. and they're holding hands with this.

little child and everyone's cheering and. they're walking a little child around. and showing them how to twerk and like. this is [ __ ] wild because it's only. sexual so you're sexualizing this in. front of these children which is very. weird but I feel like okay so there's. drag queen story hour and then there's. this is a different thing right this. isn't like this is just people going to. drag queen drag queen shows for children. there's been a lot of you know a lot of.

the far right people the the far right a. lot of you know Christians were. protesting against this and then they. find it offensive and the libs of tick. tock will you know find these videos and. post it and the thing is it's like it's. not one it's not just one instance where. some wacky Community thought it was cool. to do this it's like why is this. happening and why was this never. happening before and as this um is this. a side effect of openness and tolerance.

where because we're you know more. open-minded towards people that are. trans or drag queens or what have you. and that there's going to be like some. outer limits of this push you know like. what so you've seen that right yeah yeah. I've seen it I I think it's. it's always interesting because like. lives of it's easy to like cherry pick. one or two things and like you said. there's many instances of this and I've. seen them and I don't understand like.

bringing your child to something like. this I I don't know how like common that. is or if it's a cherry-picked instance. that now gets picked up by everybody as. kind of chum and passed around and it's. something that happened once and now it. seems like oh everyone's doing this and. it's everyone but the thing about the. internet is there's so many instances. there's so many of them and then people. see those instances and they duplicate. it which is it becomes acceptable.

right. so I guess the like pushback I've heard. from my whole question is like how did. drag queens Story Hour let's just talk. about Story Hour become a thing when. what do you mean by that like Pastor so. it's drag queens reading stories yeah. and the pushback is history 2015 in San. Francisco drag queen's Story Hour. started in 2015 in San Francisco was. created by Michelle t t e a um then the.

executive director of the non-profit. radar Productions non-profit LOL the. first events were organized by Julian. Delgado lopera of the vergee Tovar and. Virgie Tovar T who identifies as queer. came up with the idea after attending. children's Library events with her. newborn son and finding them welcoming. but heteronormative. okay she imagined an event that was more. inclusive and affirming to the LBGTQ.

families okay first event was held the. Eureka Valley Harvey Milk uh Memorial. Branch Library lbgt Castro neighborhood. of San Francisco and featured drag queen. Persia as well and was well received by. that Community I guess and other dsh. events in San Francisco featured several. drag queens of color including honey. mahogany Eve Saint croissant and uh. Panda Dolce as of February 2020 there.

are 50 plus official chapters of dsh. spread internationally as well as other. drag artists holding events at library. schools bookstores and museums October. 2022 a non-profit organization. officially changed its name to drag. Story Hour to be more inclusive and. reflect the diverse cast of stories. Queen well so drag King I know I think. even Sarah Silverman did like a whole.

video about this but she was saying. what's the difference between like a. drag queen and a clown reading to your. kids and. I mean clowns are [ __ ] creepy creepy. yeah those are weird too I'm I'm. actually maybe more inclined to be. creeped out by a clown than a drag queen. depends you know it depends on what's. going on at the show if it's just a. person is dressed up I don't think it. wants to read things so I think this is. where two things are getting combined is. one drag queen Story Hour is like you go. to a library and there's a drag queen.

reading a story to your kid right. um the drag queen shows that we're. seeing kids taken to I don't know what. that is well I think that's what comes. out of drag queen Story Hour when people. take it to the next level okay I think. that's what people are concerned with I. mean story about yeah drag queen Story. Hour someone's dressed like a woman and. and reading the who cares like what's. the big deal yeah I mean I I understand. the intent behind starting that yeah for. sure because if you're part of an lbgt.

family and you know your your kids are. only used to seeing a traditional father. or mother relationship up and you know. they have two moms or they have two dads. yeah that's that could be [ __ ] weird. and this would be like a nice little. thing to make them feel comforted right. that like it makes them feel part like. there's other communities other than. these traditional you know communities. that have been depicted in the media for. decades and decades right makes sense. but I mean I guess this is the. the. concern of kind of slippery slope.

Arguments for like gay marriage is oh. when you start normalizing things like. drag queen Story Hour then you have drag. queen. strip club hour for the kids and now you. have you know degeneracy and yeah. that argument against gay marriage is. preposterous it doesn't make any sense. because what percentage of people that. are involved in a gay marriage with in. it or adopted or surrogate children that. come along with that are involved in.

these things it's probably a tiny amount. but the problem with something like Libs. of tick tock or the not even the problem. with them but the problem with the. internet in general is that you have. literally billions of people and out of. those people hundreds of billions of. posting things and out of those hundreds. of millions you're going to get. thousands of things that some people are. going to find questionable but what. percentage of that exists in your. community very very few but the problem. is when you broadcast that and then put.

it online then it sort of becomes a. thing that exists out there in you know. the the Zeitgeist right but who's. actually putting it in the Zeitgeist. right the person who's broadcasting it. there's a person who's putting it out. there the first time but what really. gets it in the Zeitgeist is when you use. it as a flash point for the culture wars. right so suddenly now all of. conservative media has a video and it's.

like Chum in the water so you're just. feeding and both sides do this you know. you can cherry pick some right-wing chud. and be like this is representative of. all the right-wing chuds and and sure I. feel like this is the downfall why. things like your podcast and podcasts in. general are good because you actually. get to. tease apart some of these things instead. of it just being like this is. representative of every liberal that you. know right yeah that's preposterous it's.

people having an objective assessment of. what's really going on is very important. I mean I've definitely you mentioned. like surrogacy I think one of the things. I've I feel the most confused and. uncertain about now in my adult being a. mom life as surrogacy I I don't know how. it's like one of those things where if. someone said what have you changed your. mind on I don't know that I've changed. my mind I just don't know if I. how I feel about it anymore it's a weird.

issue I have a these friends of mine. back in La that are gay couple that. hired a woman to become a surrogate and. she decided to keep the kid oh really. you can do that yep it was well it was. her egg because they were gay. and so because it's usually not their. egg yeah and uh I she kept the kid I. don't know if they decided to fight it. or they just let it go but she was so. broken up like when the baby was born. yeah oh see because I don't know you.

know what I should not say that I'm not. sure the one good thing is well one of. the things that I've learned as I've. gone down this rabbit hole is that in. Most states many states you have to have. at least had a child before so you're. it's not totally like how can you. consent to something that you don't know. right like how can you consent to giving. up a child if you've never had a child. so I think usually there's a lot in. place that you have to have had a child. and look I've heard many stories of like.

oh my friend had a friend had cancer and. I had the baby for her and people are. like if it's you know the the free. market if if a gay couple wants to get a. an egg from somewhere and then they want. to have a mother incubate that egg. what's the problem but I'm like yeah but. there's a third individual in this free. market transaction which is a child and. that's where I've become very like okay.

but what about the kid they have it. depends entirely about who the parents. are right it but they still have to they. still have some kind of. they don't have any say in the matter. but I don't I guess I just have an issue. talking about kids as if they're like a. commodity yeah but you also never have. any say of who your parents are in the. first place you could be born to. crackheads should we stop crackheads. from having babies we don't right you. know we do we stop alcoholics and people. smoke cigarettes from having babies we. don't. it's like it's it's very complicated.

because you could definitely see a place. where that would be a beautiful gesture. that like were you talking about if. someone has cancer and they can't have a. baby they lost their womb or whatever. and then someone says I'm your friend. I'll have the baby for you and they act. as a surrogate yeah you can see a lot of. positives and people that would be great. parents and I know many gay couples who. are would be great parents and then but. then I wonder what it's like for the kid. you know what what's it like for them on. Mother's Day what's it like for them.

when when they're I don't know it's a. it's something I never really thought. about until I had a child and then I saw. how much she needs me the mother like. yeah they're just so they so want their. mom yeah um that is a weird one with gay. couples that have surrogates it's weird. yeah and I I definitely have the like. women and me issue of. using women for their parts and again I.

know these women of consented and all. this stuff but it's still. um. still questionable to me because you're. using all these women for their parts. and then the women is kind of like a. race like you see these pictures of men. in hospital beds with their baby that. they got the egg from someone and they. use the body of some other woman and. there's no [ __ ] women [ __ ] bizarre. like I want to scream what then every. time I where all it took multiple women.

to make this possible multiple women. usually and there's not a woman in sight. right but if a gay couple hires a. surrogate and they want to take a photo. together with the baby and you see that. you're only seeing like one little tiny. snapshot of a moment where this gay. couple has this child together yeah. they're there and you're upset that. there's not a woman in the picture like. does a woman have to be in every picture. with a gay cartoon no that's fair gay. couples I mean that's again just me. probably cherry picking one thing that I. see on social media and it it tickles my.

like bias and I'm like [ __ ] this I I but. then once you go down the rabbit hole. and look at how women in Ukraine. particularly like again poor women are. exploited in this industry badly and it. is an industry that is right for. exploitation and then if you talk about. the slippery slope did you see that. whole article about the woman who. posited using brain dead women to Ink. you incubate bodies she's like some. researcher and she put this out there.

that. um brain-dead women could be used to. basically gestate babies like why not. zombie kids yeah I mean what kind of. interaction it doesn't there's there's a. thing that happens when the child's in. the womb where they're they're getting. emotions and there's there's all sorts. of like weird interactions between the. mother that we haven't really Quantified. there's so much of this stuff but again. that brings me to the point so you can. just take a baby away from the mom and. then be like see ya once they're born.

ridiculous so I'm very I'm very clearly. I'm very um I'm I'm very open to this. discussion I like to hear everybody's. side of the perspective because my I. never even thought twice about it I was. like surrogacy whatever and then the. more I learned about it the more I was. like okay there's some stuff that's kind. of [ __ ] up in this whole entire. industry. that definitely is it's that it's it's a. very odd thing Jamie can you look.

something up for me perhaps did Italy. just ban the ability to. use women outside of Italy as surrogates. many many countries have a law against. surrogacy we discussed this on a podcast. recently because we were talking about. Ukraine and there's one of the very few. countries where you can use women as. surrogate mothers most countries have it. illegal I believe yeah there were. certainly ban. Italy planting a blanket law against.

procreative terms in Italy okay. offenders to face one million hard right. oh is this the hard right is she. actually hard right Maloney or is she. just considered her just [ __ ] throw. those things around yeah hard right [ __ ]. did you see the [ __ ] article today. um there was a thing on the CBC and it. was talking about the word freedom and. that the word freedom is being used many. times by a far-right activists Freedom. here I'll send it to you Jamie because.

this is this is so [ __ ] what Canada. is so [ __ ] wild right now it's such a. such a like really crazy place there it. is why the word freedom is such a useful. rallying cry for protesters the words. become common amongst far-right groups. so by by putting that far right in there. far right but like there's no indication. whatsoever that those truckers in Canada. Were Far Right a lot of those are.

working class people that just did not. like the idea that they were being. forced to do this medical procedure in. order to keep their job and so they. label them as far right Trudeau. personally labeled them as racists and. misogynists. just like just so he could disparage. yeah just so like whatever they say. doesn't mean anything yeah so this is. what they're doing here with the term. Freedom which is like one of the most. basic tenets for human rights your. Liberty as a human being your ability to. express yourself your ability to talk.

about things to protest to do what you. want freedom is so [ __ ] important. inherent in the idea of a free country. is the right to protest right they go. hand in hand that's why that headline is. beyond parody but it's actually. something that's being pushed on the CBC. which is really crazy well it's just. like they're setting you up for this. idea that you requesting Freedom it's. like it puts you in the category of. anti-vaxxers or racists or far-right.

people it's just these weird ways that. mainstream media has fallen into. labeling people in order to pass an. agenda and pass this this to put this. narrative out there but but the the fact. that they're willing to do it was. something that is so important like. Freedom like protesting yeah protesting. is fundamental to Freedom so to say that. using the word freedom is something that.

protesters use you're basically this is. like protesters far right product. because you get a far less protesters. and that's not being talked about like. freedom is very [ __ ] they don't want. freedom the fact that they're saying. that there's an actual article. disparaging the concept of Freedom it's. really crazy it's scary as [ __ ] and I. never would have thought before the. pandemic that would have happened to. Canada I thought Canada was this like. really friendly cool place where they.

kind of got it like Canada was kind of. better than the United States in my. opinion I would go up there I'm like. people are friendlier they're nice it's. like I would say with Canada I always. used to use this term it's 20 less. douchebags yeah because that's what it's. like and now under Trudeau it's like. it's become this very weird thing have. you seen they're they're trying to push. for a digital ID now yeah I mean that I. have a friend Anna slats she is the. founder of Redux that the.

um the the website that does a lot she. covers a lot of the gender stuff because. she's just like a feminist who's on it. and she's Canadian and I asked her about. this and that there's no way I'm gonna. be able to I I would butcher her. explanation but she has a really. interesting explanation for why Canada. has gone in this direction and I would I. I wish I was as smart as her and and. articulate but she I I was trying to. paraphrase it what do you mean it was it. was essentially something about the way.

that Canada is found was founded so how. I wish I could remember it it's I just. don't know enough about Kansas they. don't have a First Amendment up there. first of all that's that's a giant. Factor but something. speech borderline corporate it was it. was interesting I just I don't know. enough about Canada and I was reading it. and I told her what is her name Anna. slats is does she have an article about. this I told her she should write one. about it because I think it's a really. important Insight that she has and she.

should put it out there because I I was. like how how because it seemed very. liberal to me so how is this what seemed. a bit like a very liberal tolerant open. Society. slipped into. what seems like totalitarianism or you. know slipping into it there's they just. seem like the entire culture is open to. being like free anti-freedom which is. strange to me I always thought of Canada.

as like hey cool man well they're being. sold a pile of [ __ ] and the pile of. [ __ ] is you must give up your. freedom in order for others to be equal. you must give up your freedom in order. for society to function in the proper. way you must give up your freedom in. order for things to be Equitable and. inclusive and fair and it's horseshit. and it's a mind [ __ ] it's a mind [ __ ]. that you hear coming out of the wef and. Trudeau Echoes it and they say the right. words and use the right phrases and at.

the end of the day what's happening is. you're going to lose your ability to. protest you're going to lose your. ability to express yourself you're going. to lose your ability to have your say. when things start moving and general. direction towards the centralized. government being able to control various. aspects of your life one of the things. that we found out during this protest. this the trucker protest was they froze. their [ __ ] banking I know that was. nuts that is [ __ ] nuts I mean that is.

some dictator third world Banana. Republic [ __ ] yeah and the fact that. that was going on in Canada and they. Justified it and they didn't just freeze. their their money the people that were. protesting they froze the the bank. accounts of people that were donating. yeah yeah that was the [ __ ] insane. yeah it was really really insane so. that's what comes when you start using. terms like you know freedom and. connecting it to the far right yeah but. they it seems like everything. like aren't they connecting like being.

healthy to the far right now I've seen. so many articles of like exercise oh the. like far right obsession with being in. shape like like it's a bad thing somehow. I don't I don't well because there's a. giant percentage of our population that. is really lazy and fat and if you want. those people on your team you have to. say there's nothing wrong with being. lazy and fat and in fact not being lazy. and fat is actually connected to. misogyny and racism and and Fascism and.

the far right and then people are like. oh great let's eat donuts and just. [ __ ] vote blue but I feel like lazy. and fat is pretty bipartisan that's why. I always joke America's too fat for a. Civil War and it's not it's not just. people on the left who are lazy and I. would like to see a breakdown of who. like who is the most obese by party. well not just obese but obese and lazy. you know because like it's there's a lot.

of fat people that work really hard they. just eat like crazy and they drink a lot. you know there's there's you know humans. very wild of course and there's a lot of. people that are just really fat people. that work hard I just don't think I. don't know that like the left do you. think they have the the like. the. the lazy fat population well who's. pushing for Universal basic income who's. pushing for who's pushing for. redistribution of wealth that's all the. people on the left and the people that. are pushing for redistribution of wealth.

and Universal basic income if they can. say that you shouldn't be forced to work. and that your needs should be met by a. society that has exorbitant wealth and. that the way to have a more Equitable. Society is to have these people with. exorbitant wealth that you know they've. got this wealth by exploiting the middle. class and the lower class and that. should be redistributed that that's. that's where it becomes an issue because. that's all being that that narrative is. being pushed by the left almost entirely. and that's one of the ways that you.

could say like if you wanted to. reinforce the idea that you know not. working hard and not struggling and. really like putting in an immense amount. of effort in order to succeed and you. know pushing this idea this capitalist. narrative that you know that all that. stuff is in fact negative and that all. that stuff is in fact connected to the. far right connected to people that want. to suppress other people's rights and. take away a woman's right to choose and. you know all these other different. things you could do that far Easier by.

promoting that idea to the left yeah I'm. I'm not sure how I feel about Universal. base of income either because I don't. know enough about it I do know if I do. know some of the studies they've done. people generally if they are given like. a baseline that doesn't make them lazy. or they actually work harder and they. it's enough to help them pull themselves. up out of that consequence you talked. about this we talked about the Stockton. experiment what they did in Stockton. yeah it's a small amount it's like 500 a.

month I believe but it had an overall. net positive effect yeah and a very very. small amount of that money was spent on. things like drugs or alcohol and most of. it was spent on rent and food and. improving people's education. opportunities it seems like a little bit. of money for low-income families is a. very good thing oh yeah even with the. you know the child care money that they. were giving out and then they stopped. that that had huge effects 50 increase. in uh or 50 decrease rather in in child.

uh malnutrition poverty uh children not. having enough food like 50 yeah I don't. know why they stopped that I guess. probably because they want to keep us at. each other's throats I mean that the. overall net positive that it's like if. you can find something that has an. overall net positive that seems like. that should be that should be talked. about on television and we should talk. about trying to figure out other ways to. implement that in society I agree.

because without doubt people in this. society that need help and to say that. all those people that need help are lazy. is crazy because not people do not start. at the same spot on the on the race no. you know if you have a if you have a. race the finish line or the starting. block is different for different people. yeah depending on what you're where. you're born the neighborhood you live in. the family you're from and the idea that. we can't have a way to sort of balance. it just it becomes a point and like at.

what time are you going to stifle. people's desire to improve their. position because you're going to take. away money and de-incentivize people. from being successful right that's what. people on the right are worried about. that's the people that are like hardcore. capitalists are worried about yeah and I. think there's got to be some Middle. Ground we don't we have social safety. nets in America and I don't think people. I mean you know enough comedians who are. like one freaking injury away from. Financial ruin I don't think that like. our health care in this country is a. disaster and I it's my been my second.

largest expense after rent for decades. always and now I have a child and even. having a child and then seeing just the. kind of lack of support that there. actually is you know you get maybe six. weeks and then you're supposed to put. your kid in daycare or go back to work. when you're just you're barely done so I. feel like there has to be there's got I. don't want to be so cynical that I'm.

like oh well I guess it's like we either. have this free capitalist Society where. clearly that will just only try and make. money for money's sake and a lot of. people do end up getting left behind or. we have this free handouts for everyone. and people aren't incentivized to go be. small business owners or take risks or. go start their own thing and pull. themselves up and you know. I I think you and I share the like I.

didn't have. the like ideal background and I didn't. go to college and I pulled myself up and. made my own way and overcame addiction. so I have a lot of empathy but I also am. like hey get your [ __ ] together you know. I know I know it's possible to pull. yourself up and and and make something. of yourself and there's a lot of people. don't know how to do that I think it's. overwhelming you know when you're stuck. in survival that's why I think something.

like Universal basic income or something. like like those the minimum that you can. give people it if it can lift you out of. like going from surviving to thriving is. something that my therapist and I have. talked about for years but that's a very. hard transition to make even when you've. been in survival mode forever you're. just how do you yeah how do you how do. you even Envision a different life if. you've only known that hustle and and. your.

there you feel like you're drowning and. I know how and pretty average middle I I. just know how it feels to feel like. you're finally making Headway and then. you get hit with a tax bill from the. city of Los Angeles or you get hit with. a car repair or somebody in your family. gets injured and now suddenly you are. back to where you started it's so hard. to get ahead. so yeah there's got to be there's so. many people who are struggling and the. cost of living is [ __ ] insane right.

now yeah it's not just uh financial help. it's it's also giving people the tools. and giving people an understanding of. what's required in order to get better. to improve your position financial. literacy financial literacy for sure but. also telling people like what you can do. in terms of improving your position in. life and and also that's that's one of. the things that drives me nuts about. this idea that there's nothing.

there's nothing positive about being. healthy and being in shape because. having more energy will allow you to be. more productive and being healthier will. allow you to think clearer it'll allow. you to make better decisions you'll have. less stress and anxiety that'll allow. you to make a better more well-informed. choice in terms of what you decide to do. with your life it's so it's not. Universal it doesn't apply to it's not. like an instant fix but there's they. need people need education they need.

tools they need they need something to. help them and the idea that we exist as. a community until people are in trouble. and then you're on your own is crazy. yeah it's it's so I mean even being. sober and getting rid of drugs and. alcohol it's given me such a different. view on what I put in my body in terms. of food so when I'm eating really well I. feel I actually feel mentally much. better and if I'm eating like a lot of. sugar and carbs and kind of like cheese.

these which if I'm just not watching. what I'm eating I feel like depression. creeping in for sure you're tired yeah I. can actually feel it I feel like it's in. my body I feel inflamed and and I'm so. sensitive to that now because I don't. have anything else kind of clouding my. vision and I know when I'm eating like. [ __ ] I start thinking like [ __ ] yeah. that's a 100 real and you you have less. resources you're tired your body doesn't. function as well you're not going to. make as good decisions yeah no we fans.

are butts about it that's a real thing. and so then it gets back to like with. the cost of food food deserts and the. prevalence of of fast food we should. really have a conversation about the. prevalence of fat food fast food it. should be fat food but it's really what. it is it's like you're you're when. people have a small amount of money and. the best way to get calories is to eat. at these places they give you things. that are literally going to lead to. disease and yeah it's terrible for you I. know isn't it something like only the.

food that's on the outside of the. grocery store is real and everything. else basically on the shelves is not for. the most part I mean there's stuff in. the middle there's canned stuff Kansas. like 70 it's most mostly you want real. food and real food goes bad. real food the food that you get the most. amount of nutrients from is vegetables. and meats and eggs and things that are. on the outside because they're. perishable eggs yeah they're so.

expensive yeah what's going on with eggs. I think it might be coming out itself. you see that fire that happened in the. eggplant yeah chickens got killed and. then people are reported it's the. problem two that I have with like the. media ecosphere right now which is vast. is that in the vacuum of information. there's only left conspiracy theories. and people are trying to fill that and. say Here's what they're not telling you. for like clicks and sometimes it's true. and sometimes it's not and you can't.

really know I don't know what the deal. is with the eggs I know. um. I I don't know if there somebody I've. heard there was an avian bird flu they. had to kill a bunch of chickens you. heard four it was in an article that I I. think I read from this was actually I. think reports let's find it I I believe. it was. um an article that says that the reason. why there's a lack of eggs is because. they had to kill the chickens because of. a bird baby and bird flu I didn't hear. that you didn't no I didn't hear that.

and then you I heard that people who. have chickens they're not able to give. them their like their Purina Feed they. stopped laying eggs for some reason this. is another rumor that I've seen going on. around egg egg Twitter. um there's so here it is avian this is. 2023 January 11th Avian Influenza. outbreak reduced egg production so. highly pathogen Avian Influenza click on. that link please. so uh scroll down scroll down so I can.

read that highly pathogenic Avian. Influenza A disease infecting birds and. poultry struck egg laying hens. throughout 2022 as a result of recurrent. outbreaks U.S AG inventories were 29. lower in the final week of December 2022. than the beginning of the year by the. end of December more than 43 million. egg-laying hens were lost to the disease. itself or to depopulation since the. outbreak began in February 2022 losses.

were spread across two waves from. February to June 30.7 million hens and. then from September to December 12.6. million hens on constrained Supplies. wholesale egg prices the prices. retailers pay to producers were elevated. throughout the year the HP a i. reoccurrences in the fall further. constrained egg inventories that had not. recovered from the spring wave so yeah. it seems like you're right so there. others that's that could be it that.

might be exactly it and that's but. that's part of the problem with factory. farming you know when you have factory. farming like all of these things like. the swine flu and the avian flu and. those come out of factory farming just. come out of those horrible settings. where you have these animals crammed in. together in unsanitary conditions yeah. no I I feel like I read that and that's. why but then I was I heard from some. farmer who was saying that it was. actually the grocery stores they weren't. they were just taking advantage of the.

fact that the supply was low and they. weren't passing that off onto the. farmers they were just jacking up the. rates so I don't know I'm not smart I'm. I I try to keep track of these it's like. I've been trying to follow this Ohio. train derailment which by the way it was. infuriating to me because we have a an. Administration that has constantly. threatening us with climate change. disaster and everything we do needs all. of these policies need to be for climate. change and the green initiative and.

there's an actual ecological disaster. unfolding and you don't hear a [ __ ]. word about it on CNN on any of the major. mainstream media so why do you think. that is I mean I I would I guess the. cynic and in me would say that it's. because the railroad is owned by. companies that advertise on CNN also the. administration and I'm not an expert on. this at all I was reading about how they. busted a union so the union was fighting.

for something and and then basically. they busted the union fight for more. days off and then this occurred after. one of the rail workers was saying. something like this was bound to happen. because they're all sick and overworked. and this was actually like the the Biden. Administration we just heard from Pete. secretary Pete today about it I think. which is crazy do you know that he gave. a speech the other day about how there's.

too many white people working in. construction sites where these. construction sites are set up in these. communities where the people in the. community could benefit from it that. which shows a profound lack of. understanding of skilled labor because. if you're talking about people that are. carpenters and people that are plumbers. and people that are electricians and. people that are Framers and roofers like. that's skilled labor yeah like you have. to hire people that are really good at. that and if they don't exist in that. Community you have to hire them from.

outside the community that's why those. unions are important that's why it's. it's important that look if you see what. happens when you have unskilled labor. and unskilled people working on. buildings you have [ __ ] disasters. yeah. and overworked and over tired but the. fact that he talked about that and he. didn't talk about this derailment this. derailment should be but the derailment. it's a colossal failure on the part of. the transportation department yeah and. and I don't know what caused the.

derailment but there's a lot of. derailments that are occurring in the. United States they're just sabotage. Houston the other day too I think and a. lot of them are sabotage because you get. the thing about trains is like you have. tracks right and they run for miles and. miles and miles no one's monitoring. every [ __ ] mile of those tracks yeah. so some [ __ ] crazy person could come. along and do something to those tracks. and cause trains to derail and it. happens it's not a one-time thing it's. happened multiple times but Nelson just. did the thing about it where he talked.

about train derailments okay where he. talked about people sabotaging trains. and people derailing trains purposely is. it like. just bait or is it is it actually. something that's true well it's true I. mean there are people that have derailed. trains on purpose right so the fact that. that's a vulnerability right and the. fact that you're transporting hazardous. waste on these trains now I don't know. if this if they have to take additional. precautions due to traveling with.

hazardous waste and whether or not those. precautions were or not taken that's. what I'm hearing about this case is that. they that this is something that they. were trying to cut money by transporting. these things that are hazardous wastes. in a way that perhaps maybe they. shouldn't have been transported that way. or maybe the regulation should be. different I don't know if it's even. hazardous waste though I think it's just. chemicals that we use in plastic oh it's. very hazardous it's not waste right. hazardous materials right right it's.

very hazardous materials like the. byproduct yeah no it's it's very. dangerous material but that's why. there's this one kid Nick drum who's. been doing these amazing Tech talks that. I'm obsessed with because it's that he's. like a chemist yeah he and he's great. he's great he's actually taking what the. APA is releasing and he's trying to make. sense of it and he's like why am I I. think I said the person who's doing this. why am I the person who's asking these. questions because what he mentions is. when you look at the Manifest of the. chemicals that were on there why what.

we're looking at is this they're doing. you know what's in the air but also he. was saying there's petroleum so we're. talking about an oil spill too but no. one's talking about that well let's play. what he has to say rewind that James he. has a bunch. I don't know well just let's play this. one play the one you have in front of. you okay and Rewind that. yeah I don't know if that's his ticket. it's been very good so let's talk about. the trail derailment in East Palestine.

Ohio East palestine's about an hour. north of Pittsburgh almost halfway to. Cleveland Norfolk Southern has a rail. line that goes right through town and. this derailment happened right on the. edge outside of town on the border of PA. in Ohio the cars that crash fine for. them contain Vinyl chloride it's a. monomer used to make PVC the reporting. on this has gotten Vinyl chloride. confused with polyvinyl chloride the. polymer made out of vinyl chloride now. the reason that this distinction is. really important is vinyl chloride is.

very hazardous and very flammable. polyvinyl chloride is a Plastics that's. used in like everything the other thing. about Vinyl chloride is that it boils at. eight degrees Fahrenheit so it's shipped. in its liquid form meaning that when. these trains crashed and they started. leaking they weren't just leaking liquid. that they were spewing boiling gas so. vinyl chloride is really toxic OSHA has. the permissible limit of how much you. can be exposed to it during an eight. hour shift as a a one PPM part per.

million average over eight hours so. prior to this the biggest spill of this. chemical was in New Jersey where one. train car and about 23 000 gallons of. vinyl chloride were spilled but it can. catch on fire now this crash in Ohio has. five Training cars these kinds of tanker. cars can carry between 25 and 33 000. gallons let's call it 250 to 250 000. pounds of vinyl chloride that's per. train car five train cars there's maybe.

a million pounds of this toxic chemical. spilling into the ground and also. boiling off into the air but then it. caught on fire I think this is where the. reporting is really bad because no one. is mentioning what the byproduct of. vinyl chloride burning is of the many. byproducts of burning vinyl chloride one. of them is hydrogen chloride hydrogen. chloride is really unstable and latches. onto water like just water vapor in the. atmosphere and that turns into. hydrochloric acid so right now. government officials officials from the. railroad both the governor of.

Pennsylvania and Ohio are calling. burning off the million pounds of this. stuff a success but not mentioning that. it means that we have hundreds of. thousands of pounds of acid in the air. potentially now ever since engineering. school I've studied a lot of industrial. accidents I just find it really. fascinating and organizations like the. chemical safety board NTSB and OSHA all. have like really good reports available. to the public I think as a designer it's. really good to learn about mistakes when. looking at these kinds of industrial.

disasters across time there are a couple. things that are pretty Universal across. all of them one the responsible party in. this Coast North Oak Southern Railway. always plays down the reality of the. situation politicians also just repeat. the same lines and then news outlets. just repeat the same so all we're. hearing is the responsible party's word. this hasn't been getting so Jamie I also. sent you a video that shows what it. looks like in the area where these. clouds are passing over and it is. horrific it's apocalyptic it's so.

terrible there's a man who's on the. ground who's screaming that these aren't. storm clouds these are the clouds that. of this [ __ ] that they're burning from. East Palestine and he's freaking out and. you know like animals are dying pets are. dying fish are dying in the rivers it's. it the idea that they only evacuated a. small area yeah you're talking about. like miles and miles away from this yeah. animals are dying this is look at this.

play this Go full screen with this. because. there aren't storm clouds. this is the [ __ ] [ __ ]. that they burn off the [ __ ] [ __ ] they. burn off in East Palestine they. dorm clouds look at this I know look at. it. this is over Darlington. [Music]. this is [ __ ] insane if you if you're. just listening what we're looking at is.

just intense black clouds covering this. area and it's daytime yeah and you can't. see [ __ ] you you the sky is completely. covered in Black play give me the. volumes for me Palestine. they're [ __ ] controlled burn. yeah the idea is a controlled burn is so. crazy well I guess because they were. worried that it was going to explode. that's why they felt they had to burn it.

but it did explode right no they were. felt it was going to be a massive. explosion and this would have happened. anyway. but there's no other options like in one. of that kid's Tech talks later on he. talks about how they just buried it and. so people are saying they did this just. to get the trains running again. basically which again the cynic in me. wouldn't doubt but I don't know I just. sent you a text from. um my editor Joe donatelli who I loved. from Playboy he now lives in Ohio and.

he's on does local news and I will say. local news has been great on this. they're actually reporting and he like. he said to me you have to be able to. like muster the resources fact check. things it it isn't as fast as the. internet where there's a void of. information that gets filled and he did. a long Thread about what they've learned. in his at the local news station where. he is that's really good and I recommend. people go check it out because I think. local news is actually pretty good on.

this but some people in Ohio are saying. they didn't even know about it. there's like people who are you'll see. online they're like I'm in Ohio and I. didn't hear about this but maybe they. don't watch local news okay he says uh. Joe donatelli says okay let's do this. again we reported from East Palestine. yesterday we're doing more today brief. aside I keep hearing from people how. come nobody's covering this story many. local news outlets are and they're doing. a good job but I think people are really. saying is the cable network I watch. isn't covering it or it's not on a.

national newspapers home page or my. social feed all may be true but to say. it's not being covered is wrong if you. know how to Google let's get to the late. yeah but I mean that's kind of important. no it is a massive places like CNN the. New York Times I was on the plane. yesterday for two hours that the guy in. front of me was watching CNN and all. they talked about was UFOs they did not. mention this once yeah well that's more. sexy right uh we now have we now know we.

now more no no I think yeah now no more. than the other hazardous materials that. the train was care sharing including. some not mentioned before reports from. Tara Morgan TV the EPA released a list. of Norfolk Southern. from Norfolk Southern A flammable gas. and liquids and their status in the rail. cards when the rail cards when the Train. derailed on November 3rd sending a toxic. black February third excuse me February. 3rd later sending a toxic black plume.

over the village the materials included. Vinyl chloride. uh ethylene glycol. monobutyl ether. ethyl hexel acrylate. isobutylene and butyl acrylates oh good. job said one expert we spoke with some. of these are known carcinogens so of. potential future risk of this. contaminated if we get contaminated. water long term unfortunately the. reality of these types of chemicals is.

that we have contamination of our air. and water they can cause long-term. health issues of the population they. affect ABC news reports the EPA is. monitoring air quality so far so good. what the [ __ ] are you talking about well. that EPA also said 911 it was fine after. 9 11. so I'm not exactly sure how much I. trust them we're seeing beyond what. residents have been saying the train. derailment and spillage of toxic. chemicals has resulted in the deaths of. 3500 fish. Ohio DNR estimates across a population.

of 7.5 miles of streams. Norful okay Norfolk Southern has scroll. down laid out steps plans to take to. clean up a site according to the plan. work has already been done to collect. pooled liquids from of into a vacuum. truck and prepare them for disposal. surface water flow has been rerouted. away from the derailment site and. underflowed dams are in place the plan. states that 180 000 gallons of liquid. have been removed from the area.

additional work currently being done is. air quality monitoring with soil and. surface water sampling pending well. water too the results of those tests are. not available yet we're working to learn. more about what happened the impact in. the residents okay one of the things. that Nick Drumm was saying was that they. haven't done a water test since February. 4th. which is weird why are why are we 10. days in with no water test because they. want to know the results yeah I mean.

it's it's such a it I I just it. frustrates me because if you really do. care about the environment this should. be on plastered on on every single News. Channel all the time not to mention all. these people being displaced not to. mention how much of the soil these. rivers go into the Mississippi you could. be contaminated in farmland for. thousands and thousands of miles I mean. we don't [ __ ] know no we don't. [ __ ] know and on top of that this is. now an open and publicly.

referenced vulnerability so the problem. with that is if someone was a bad actor. that wanted to do more of this and have. this happen more often now you have this. thing that's I mean if someone was gonna. if that was an attack it's an enormously. successful attack I mean people are. calling it a Chernobyl level event. no I'm not saying it once no okay I'm. saying if it was if someone wanted to do. that if someone found where there's like.

well they already got these ideas if. someone found where they're transporting. these hazardous chemicals and they. decided to derail purposely we're [ __ ]. and the fact that this is how they. transport these things on these. unmonitored like steel bands were a. train at going at high speed is. vulnerable for derailment there's. something about the brakes I know that. there was a loose wheel or something and. they called it they they couldn't stop. it in time I believe is how this one.

happened yeah and then there's something. about these there's a whole situation. around the brakes that the trains use. and they're trying to upgrade to another. certain kind of breaks that I was. reading about and this is part of the. whole conversation that was supposed to. be happening and then they didn't and. and I'm not sure again for all of the. talk about like the environment you. would think that this would be on the. top of of everyone's radar the problem. is it's such a colossal failure on the. part of the regulatory bodies the. government the company that's shipping.

these things how can we ship that many. when you look at the manifests how can. you ship that many toxic chemicals on. one train well here's the real question. how often is this being done yeah a lot. is this happening every day and this is. just the only time that it ever went. wrong. I bet we need a lot of vinyl chloride to. make PVC where does it even come from I. know nothing it's like when something. like this happens I'm like I am so.

oblivious to the things that make this. country work and to the thing I'm just. so I start going down the rabbit hole. I'm like I know nothing about the union. I know nothing about these these. chemicals where did these chemicals even. come from I know nothing about the. railroad apparently these companies are. owned by big corporations who are like. the evil corporations behind everything. because that's just the conglomeration. that we live in and this this kind of. stuff makes me more. um left like this is when my left Lefty.

really comes out because it is like. where's the some things do need to be. regulated we can't just have an. unregulated Society where you can just. well is it this not regulated or are. they moving things in a way that's. unethical well one of the things. somebody did a video about how I believe. this there's something about this that. was regulated and then during the Obama.

era and then I think it was Trump who. took the who deregulated it deregulated. some aspect of this oh. but again regulations for environmental. [ __ ] like this is super important I. don't I don't know and I have to I just. wish I was smarter I just I wish I could. remember things and have that steel trap. memory for when you go down a rabbit. hole at like one in the morning and. you're reading everything you can about. it and I I just need to start like.

bookmarking all this stuff I can't go. out I can't go down a rabbit hole and. stuff like this at night it makes me. won't sleep yeah I know I couldn't it's. a scary one it's really scary this is. the I mean we really don't know the. impact and they're gonna hide it they're. gonna pretend it's not as bad as it is. there's no way they're going to give you. a 100 accurate assessment of all the. environmental damage that's being done. to all these people all the health. consequences you know we've talked about. this before with coal plants we we had a. a guy on we're talking about coal plants.

and the areas around these coal plants. and how toxic is this is in Indiana. about these people have soot on their. cars the the rate of respiratory disease. around on these areas is much higher. than normal and that you're breathing in. cold dust yeah. the particulates in the air are [ __ ]. horrible for you and that we want to. pretend that this doesn't exist this. doesn't get highlighted yeah and then I. even just the long-term effects how long. will it be uninhabitable didn't they. have to move all those people out of.

that community and then they're like. it's fine you can come back because the. air is cool but what about the water and. soil and yeah they haven't they had to. move them back and there was like a. feel-good article about welcome back to. the community. this is like Aaron Brockovich [ __ ] yes. it is like you know I feel like it was. like that there's a movie that I sent. you that thing a Netflix that came out. about this this they were the people in. this community were extras in this movie. isn't that train getting derailed they.

had to evacuate. Jesus Christ yeah yeah they did a whole. movie about this Jesus Christ it's crazy. it is crazy I was wondering too oh yeah. this is not fishing chickens as. authorities say it's okay to return oh. God I wouldn't return but what do you do. if that's your home and you don't have. any money you have to return well and. then there was like do you sign the help. that you're getting because oftentimes. when the company comes in and says hey. we're gonna help you just sign this and.

you're signing away your right to ever. sue them if you get cancer and your kids. get cancer right so you get a 1200 chat. yeah so what are you supposed to do. I was wondering I have a question what. what after our last session we were. talking about the Red Wave and we I was. with you I thought there was going to be. a red wave when there wasn't a red wave. do you what do you. what do you attribute to that do you do.

you even like reflect on why why there. wasn't or are you just like whatever no. I reflect on it I think there's uh. there's a lot of blue no matter who. people and we don't talk to those people. I think there's a lot of I think do you. think Roe v Wade had a big impact yeah I. feel like we underestimated that huge. impact and that was one of the articles. that I read that was talking about uh. young women and how many young women. voted exclusively Democrat and will. continue to do so no matter what yeah.

and that's a that's a big factor I. wonder too like I was thinking about it. for myself why whenever I get something. wrong like that which is all the time I. wonder you know I look at my own bias. and kind of echo chamber and what I'm. listening to and I just think because I. was in California and the lockdowns were. so stringent and I was so I disagreed. with generally the way that it was. handled I I I under underestimated the.

tolerance that most people had for the. lockdowns that they experienced in their. state so I thought it would be a much. bigger response like in Michigan every. they had a lot of stringent lockdowns. and it was pretty very blue so. I just I guess that's one area where. I've learned of like I'm applying my own. lack of tolerance for these lockdowns. and seeing how harsh it was on the kids. and on small businesses and I'm applying. it to everyone but a lot of people think.

that they did the best they could with. the information that they were given and. that it was handled they were okay with. with the lockdown well I think if the. vote came during the lockdown things. would be very different but people have. very short memories and once things are. back open like I have friends in. California that were talking about. moving out of California and they're. like well you know things are kind of. almost back to normal now so I think I'm. gonna stay right so there's a lot of. that where people think you know better. this than having some fascist Republican.

run things and take away abortion rights. and take away this and that and. so I think there that's part of it is. that most things have kind of gone back. to normal and people do have short. memories and once they're working again. and once society's the wheels of society. start turning again they kind of forget. about how bad it was in 2020 when. everything was just fully locked down. and all these businesses went under and. 70 of La restaurants and yeah it was. pretty I mean I think too and it wasn't.

as bad in some states as it was in. California but I think most people in. California were pretty on board with. obviously clearly they were based on how. they vote I think they were they're. pretty on board with it you know for the. most part well I think it's blue no. matter who in California California and. particularly Los Angeles and San. Francisco good [ __ ] luck getting a. republican into office there I mean good. [ __ ] luck it's actually becoming more. um like the Democratic Socialist got two.

people on the board in the city of La I. think it's becoming a more socialist you. know that I read a whole article on I. think it was Jacobin about how it's a. good time to be a socialist in Los. Angeles the you the unions are getting. stronger and it seems like it's going. more to the left it's interesting yeah I. guess what that that and I'm not sure if. it was in that article but it seems like. Texas has become redder and Los Angeles. has become or California's become Bluer.

so they're they're becoming more. entrenched in there well the people that. left California to come to Texas realize. the Folly of the ways of California yeah. they traditionally people were worried. about like don't California my Texas but. when you actually poll the people who. moved to Texas from States like. California they tend to vote more red. because they're like we we know what. this leads to yeah I have some friends. that were hardcore lefties that voted.

all red oh wow yeah they were hardcore. lefties before the panda endemic like. hippies yeah like literal hippies and. they're like [ __ ] these people like this. what they're doing is they're taking. away people's ability to make decisions. for themselves yeah and you know if they. were personally affected by it it's. varying degrees of you know whether or. not you're gonna act or do something. about or whether you're just going to. stick with your ideology. yeah and I wonder too if there was no. real Red Wave because a lot of the.

people who might have voted right in. these places left those places and went. somewhere red well also how much do you. believe in voter fraud how much do you. think that there's manipulation how much. do you think that there's. it's like we've talked about this before. that it's not zero percent like yeah I. know I mean it's not zero. I don't believe the election was stolen. you know I'm not I'm not I'm not.

anywhere near that level I do think with. mail-in ballots in particular there is. and like ballot harvesting being allowed. that seems like a weird thing to me the. mail-in ballots I'm I think it's like. I'm torn about it on the one hand I'm. glad that people who it might be they're. elderly it might be hard for them to get. to the polls that they can vote but on. the other hand I think there's so much. room for [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah what do. you think about the Arizona thing uh.

Carey Lake oh I don't know I'm not I I'm. that's a weird one right because she was. a denier of the the election the the. presidential election with Trump she was. saying that Trump won and then you know. then it happened to her so it's like. it's set up Oh I thought she said that. he won she said he won Trump that he. should have won right right he got. [ __ ] over and now she's saying that. she got [ __ ] up yeah but she. underestimates how many people like. McCain and she said if you like McCain.

don't come vote for me and maybe they. didn't like she talks [ __ ] about McCain. in Arizona. so I think she talked [ __ ] about became. because she's like a trump loyalist. right but you he's from Arizona people. love him they were there there is a. realm of possibility where they were. like okay crazy I'm not gonna vote for. him yeah for you well she represents you. know she's a trump person in a lot of. people's eyes she represents that and. there's people that even if they're a.

red they don't want that you know and. there's you know the interaction denying. yeah crazy people yeah you're hearing. Rumblings of that now with the upcoming. future presidential elections you're. seeing some pretty staunch Republicans. that are saying we need a sensible. person that can do eight years which is. a thing saying that you know we don't. want Trump right. well there's still a lot of never. trumpers but do you think that DeSantis. will even go up against. do you think he'll even go up against.

Trump what the [ __ ] do I know well we. know nothing I don't know anything I. don't know anything it seems like Trump. thinks he is you know yeah but I don't. know about it yeah has he yeah yeah he. did about it he said that you know he. doesn't think about it at all about we. calls him Rhonda sanctimonious oh that's. he needs to come up with another it's. not a good one but the problem is he's. losing his touch with the nicknames well. he just there's not a good one that you. can come up with Ron because Ron is he's. too good with that base yeah and his.

success in Florida is crazy pretty. unparalleled yeah yeah I mean. I don't I don't know if I if I were him. I don't know why I would. why would I risk running up against the. Maga Republicans and when I could just. be in Florida and do a great job and. come in in 2020 and wait yeah because. he's a young guy yeah he certainly could. so yeah he's like my I think he's. younger than me he's like my age yeah I. met him met him in Florida oh yeah I met.

him at the one of the UFC events oh okay. yeah literally in between fights I ran. back that he wanted to meet me and Dana. said you want to meet Ron DeSantis I'm. like okay so ran backstage to meet him. real quick. um and what's your is he a politician. well you know he basically said you know. we can't you know the way he always. talks like we we can't uh can't take. away people's freedoms you know very. brief interaction shook his hand. pleasure to meet you that kind of thing.

I I read a long-form New Yorker article. that profiled him and I feel like it was. meant to be disparaging but it it it. didn't seem like they could come up with. that much that was like oh he worked. really hard in college. and didn't like talking to people. veteran yeah and his wife he's supported. his wife while she had cancer and yeah. it's true It's tricky because he's a. very good candidate he's very. disciplined it's going to be interesting. to see what happens that's for sure and.

if if Trump decides to attack him you're. going to lose a lot of Republicans that. are on his side I have a trump I mean. that what I've heard from people who. know way more than me about this is that. he doesn't need that much support to get. the nomination so do you risk alienating. people who will vote for you four years. from now and go I mean here's the real. question does he go with Trump does Ron. DeSantis in trouble come in as a vice. president I I think he's Savvy enough he. seems like he's used his support when it.

benefits him and he distances himself. from him when. when it benefits him but wouldn't it. benefit him if he became the vice. president and trying to be successful. and he would be the balanced reasonable. person they're going to set him up in. 2028. I mean there's some truth to that. idea that everything Trump touches dies. like I don't know if you want to. necessarily Sully yourself because he. will not go out on a limb for you he'll.

let the freaking insurrectionists come. try and hang you yeah if you go out on a. limb for him so I don't it seems like. I would be very unsettled by his level. of self-centeredness this is Trump's. this is not a person who if you go out. on a limb for him that's going to be. reciprocated more and more than likely. he'll like saw the freaking tree off the. branch well there's not much time left I. mean it's already 20 23. now it's in.

February you're you're we're really. dealing with a year from now I'm not. ready really really rampant not ready. I'm not ready for this yeah we have 12. months before things get crazy. do you think it's going to be like a. I don't know do you do you feel that the. you're you're a hall monitor of the. culture. not really but I mean You observe that. you're an observer of them you're you'd. partake do you feel like things are. getting better worse like right now.

today what is your General on. Valentine's Day Happy Valentine's Day. Happy Valentine's Day what's your. general feeling. well are you optimistic I think there's. a there's a massive benefit in Elon Musk. owning Twitter I really believe that I. believe and if we're going to get a. balanced perspective having someone. on Twitter who's not going to allow one. individual narrative to be broadcast.

only right and that is what we found. with Twitter and that's what you're. seeing with the Twitter files I'm still. being suppressed. are you just hopefully I maybe I just. suck I was joking about this but once. you say you're suppressed maybe not. suppressed I I joked the other day it's. not the algorithm I just suck but I've I. have not moved in like a month not even. I don't think I've I think I've. lost followers. maybe gain some but it's just been very.

a very flat line and this I will take. responsibility this could be me like I I. think a lot of people think they're. being surprised I think I joke all the. time because on YouTube we were like uh. it's such a struggle with dumpster fire. and I never know if it's something that. we're saying dumpster fire because we. don't hold back and censor at all and. but I was like it could just be that we. suck at YouTube well YouTube is very. tricky because YouTube definitely. doesn't support Independent Media they.

they support mainstream media and you. know I've talked about this with Kyle. kolinsky yeah he had something. interesting to say on the last one about. that and because we kind of fall under. like a news show ish even though we're. joking about the news yes. um I think dumpster fire would get. caught in those levels 100 talks about. yeah 100 and your take on things is. humorous and you know you're you're. making fun of of the powers that be and. you're not understand yeah and.

yourselves but I mean that's it's humor. and. it used to be that those things could. get magnified and that people would get. recommended them and that you'd grow and. it would be sort of you'd be on the. positive side of the algorithm and now. it seems like all those independent. shows get stuck any independent covering. of news gets stuck in this like sort of. non-broadcasted non-promoted it's crazy. Avenue because we get when you look at.

what the ratios are the number of. comments that we get on a video just. when from what we've studied about. ratios of comments to how many views. that something has we should have. hundreds of thousands of views based on. just how many comments we'll have on. something and it just it doesn't seem. like it gets pushed and we were doing. really well we were like cruising along. getting a couple thousand subscribers. every month on YouTube and then it was. like I don't know what tripwire we hit.

but it took us a year to get a thousand. more subscribers drivers and then only. after I came on after the last time here. did we get like 4 000 more and then. we've just been flat ever since so we. hit some weird we just keep hitting like. I'm like it's like it's so weird to. being in this space because. it's hard not to be I am a very much. like take full responsibility person so.

I I like plateaus I've talked to. Constantine about this they're good. because you can look at what can we do. better what can we improve what can we. streamline the show that we've been. making is we treat it like a show for. television we need to treat it like a. show for YouTube so that we can people. so what's the difference we have credits. at the end and stuff like that it's just. because it's all kind of fun we think. it's funny but people aren't people want. to be able to bounce to the next video. so it's little things like that that we. can tweak that will probably make a.

small or maybe large difference we'll. see we don't people spend so much money. and effort into the title cards and what. the title says versus and we haven't. yeah we haven't really done that we're. like what's what's a funny line from our. episode let's do that we're like we. always joke that we're like Galore that. would be fun yeah so and I don't want to. have to spend a lot of time thinking. about that I'm putting out so much I. have found my sub Stacks growing which. is awesome I'm a writer I love it that's.

where Jaren and I started factory. settings a podcast which is so fun we. basically sit down and we talk about. media bias and like our own biases but. it's just fun because we were like we. feel like we just turned date night into. a podcast because we can't have a date. anymore now that we have a child and. we'll just pick a topic like this. today's was love and romance and then we. just talk about like our factory. settings you know our default kind. whatever was kind of put into our brain. brain whether it was from Media or.

family and people like the comments it's. it's so inspiring and I love it it. really makes people think about their. own. we've done it on addiction we've done it. on willingness on gratitude we just like. pick a word and then discuss it and. that's been getting just so much nice. feedback and I feel like people are it. makes people think about their own stuff. and Men seem to really respond jaron's. just such a like grounded individual.

much more grounded than my crazy ass and. people seem to respond to that so I. think that it's it's like I'm I just. feel so happy to be able to be able to. like create content and do what I love I. always joke like on Twitter and and on. YouTube we're just happy to be there you. know I'm grateful that I even have a. presence but it is frustrating when you. feel because it's hard not to become. paranoid when you're like I'm being. oppressed well we have a we have a lot.

of people that follow us on YouTube I. think we have 14 something million but. that hasn't really grown. um. grows every month by a lot about how. much. but it has it grown tell them to follow. here's the thing here's the problem I. don't pay attention yeah like this is my. my thing I don't want to pay attention I. don't look at what numbers are I don't I. don't either I don't want to do the show. and then I have people are like have you. considered shuttering Watkins welcome so.

what did we gain 278. 000 in the last month okay I'm wrong see. but this is the problem with me I don't. pay attention yeah no but I look at the. number I think I thought it was always. like 14 million yeah but it used to be. 10 million right around the time we went. to Spotify oh okay ah. I probably don't wish I paid attention. more it's probably good that I don't. know that it continues to grow I don't. want to pay attention you know but so. don't pay attention if it's it's stuff.

that affects my is it helping you pay. attention well if there's things that I. can do to make the product better then I. guess I should pay attention but is that. what it is because I feel like to make. the product better you should do the. product that you want to do well I agree. that's what I've been doing but it's. that's but that's the only way at a. certain point I can't blame the. algorithm maybe it's like my joke it's. not the algorithm I might just suck I. don't think you just suck I think one of. the things that we're very fortunate.

about is that we got into this a long. time ago and there's a thing that. happens where you just get overwhelmed. with choices there's so many [ __ ]. shows yeah and this is one of the things. that I try to tell young Comics that are. starting podcasts I'm like you have to. be very consistent yeah you have to be. consistent and you have to put them out. all the time you have to put out. multiple ones and then you gotta trust. the process yeah but it's just going to. grow and it can grow organically but. coming into the game today if a comic.

tries to start a podcast in 2023 you. have to understand you're coming into a. game that has 5 million players but yes. versus when I first started of course I. I that doesn't necessarily make me feel. better but I I'm like I'm so grateful. for the audience that I have but it is. like you said a very crowded field. however when I was talking to Chris. Williamson on my podcast he was like not. many people make it past four podcasts. so even I of those five million I don't.

know how many it's something like you're. in the top percentage of podcasts if you. manage to make it to like 20 something. podcasts so I'm not sure how many of. those 5 million are even making it to 20. episodes or whatever people don't have. structure because they quit yeah I mean. there's a lot of people that have good. podcasts that when back when I was doing. it in the beginning that had a pretty. good podcast that just teetered off and. then I'm bringing back back to podcast. link.

it's kind of a tough time it's a tough. time to bring back a podcast I'm not. going to shudder it Joe no you don't. have to shutter it Jesus Christ I'm not. telling you do that no I mean. the more time that you spend just doing. what you want to do and trying to make. it the best version of itself versus. doing something that you think will. attract more people oh no I don't do. that we just try and figure out if we're. doing something that is impeding our. ability to attract more people that. could easily be remedied like there's.

something you guys probably naturally do. it or you have people who are thinking. about doing this for you that you can do. your product and then they put the right. card at the end on the video so that it. gets shared or they roll to the next. video like there might be simple things. that we're not doing so it's one of. those things it's like I don't know. but I don't I've never advertised this. show I've never promoted it I've never. done anything other than do it all I do. is just keep doing it yeah but I think. that you're yeah I mean that's been my.

Mantra I just keep doing my I do my my. problem is probably many things but I do. have I have a lot of different projects. like you do one thing really well and I. do I have three podcasts now so I I mean. I'm sure if someone like you would. advise me to maybe focus on one I don't. know about that I'd advise you to do. whatever you enjoy doing that's what I I. just like it because Watkins welcome is.

so like I get to talk to people and I. it's more. um. it's just different it's a different. part of my personality I feel like they. all exercise parts of my personality. that and dumpster fire feels always like. I'm doing stand up we do dumpster fire. live streams now and it feels so like I. get that same rush because it's a live. stream and I'm like I don't [ __ ] know. what I'm gonna say half the time that's. my favorite of your podcast thank you. it's fun yeah and you're hilarious but. it's one of those things where if you do.

all these and you count the views from. all of them do you think you would have. all those views on one channel if you. only did one. I don't know I mean they attract what I. like about it is they attract different. people like it not everybody not. everybody likes dumpster fire a lot of. people love Watkins welcome and not. everybody. there's a whole new audience that we're. getting through factory settings because. I think it's nice to have like the male. influence and and people just like the. conversation so I I don't.

I don't I think if I put it all together. and one one show or something it would. be kind of weird well you should do what. you want to do and if you want to do. multiple shows you should do multiple. shows that's what I'm doing what I think. is interesting is uh the sub stack. audience because sub stack is. fascinating to me the growth of substack. has been really it's been surprising and. uh very welcome I love it I love sex I. love the fact that independent. journalists now have massive platforms. yeah massive and honestly like they're.

they it's just beautifully designed and. I love how easy it is to share the work. and I started doing on my sub stack like. I wanted to just force myself to do a. writing prompt every day so I just. started doing it but on on right Club on. my sub stack and people are joining in. and then they post their writing prompts. and such a like fun interactive thing. and they introduce a chat function so. you can chat with your audience which is. really cool and there's video now so.

yeah I think I think the like sky is the. limit really for I I really love that. platform and as a writer it just speaks. to my soul just how easy it is for me to. post a very beautiful looking blog no I. think it's great too and also there's a. built-in audience now because people. have found that sub stack is a great. place to get real independent journalism. yeah it's so good and mainstream people. people like Matt taibi and Glenn. Greenwall big names and Glenn's left.

though I think did he. yeah he went to rumble and then I was. exclusively on Rumble now even with. writing uh they I think as I understand. it that part of the deal is that he had. to put his has to put his writing on. locals now interesting what do you think. uh did you see the Seymour Hearst thing. no Seymour Hersh on his sub stack posted. about us blowing up the Nordstrom. pipeline. um. that's crazy has that been actually. confirmed well Seymour Hershey said it.

and he's documented his sources and. discussed what happened and the fact. that someone like Seymour Hersh is. publishing and a guy who really hasn't. been working yeah he's publishing on. substack what's crazy to me is that I I. asked my friend I'm like wasn't this am. I mistaken or was this like a a. conspiracy theory that got you labeled. as like a Putin apologist yeah not too. long ago well Biden said that it was. Russian disinformation that you know we. had anything to do with it that it was.

Russian disinformation and now it's. coming out that or it's alleged I mean. I'm not the guy to tell you one way it's. worded online Cyrus swings and Mrs big. careless claims that the U.S blew up the. nordstream pipeline cover for the real. scandals of the Biden Administration I. like tablet tablet's good interesting. what are they saying though I'll go back. to that what are they saying that it. covers for the most astounding claim the. Blockbuster new article from Seymour. Hirsch alleging that the U.S is. responsible for sabotaging two of.

Russia's national gas pipe natural gas. pipelines is that the Biden. Administration is led by a no-nonsense. crew of Highly capable tacticians huh. forget what you've heard about the. secret classified documents turning up. in various Biden residences and hears it. but first of all those Biden residences. that's documents from when he was a vice. president that's really not applicable. for this current Administration and hers. is telling that the Biden White House. practices except exceptional operational. security you're talking about different. administrations also you're talking.

about something the vice president took. with him towards into his home. uh and it would need to because. according to the single anonymous source. on whom Hersh bases his piece the. Russians have superlative surveillance. of the Baltic Sea pulling off a plan to. blow up nordstream one Nordstrom two. pipelines between Germany and Russia. would acquire not only Vision leadership. but sophisticated cover so what kind of. Highly Advanced self technology did the. Biden team employ to cloak the. underwater operation in fact they did.

just the opposite they hid the plot to. start World War III in plain sight. according to the source who had Direct. knowledge of the operational planning. right Church a team of U.S Navy divers. planted the explosives in June 2022. during an annual NATO exercise in the. Baltic Sea while tens of thousands of. Naval Personnel from Allied countries on. site and hundreds of thousands more were. monitoring the exercise remotely that is. according to Hearst The Source team. Biden thwarted the Russian superb.

surveillance by planting explosive. before the eyes of an audience of. military and intelligence officials from. the European countries that depend on. Russian gas carried through the. pipelines right but what he's what. Seymour Hearst is saying is they planted. it months in advance and then detonated. it remotely. so saying that this is sort of I I don't. think this is that good like what what. because someone could do that you could. plant something in front of everyone but. nothing happened and then it gets.

detonated remotely months later so to. prove that they did it during that time. it's like if all these people are. monitoring it and they were there and. they just blew it up well obviously they. did it they were there they blew it up. and you could say you know we're mod we. these people were monitoring them they. caught him doing it but if some if these. people were there and no one knew that a. team of divers planted this no one's. monitoring the bottom of the [ __ ]. ocean you're not having people. monitoring whether or not people are. planting explosives that will be.

detonated remotely three months four. months in the future so they're saying. just because no one was monitoring it. that's why it's not true well I don't. know I mean people have to read that. hard yeah people write articles and they. have narratives but I don't like the way. they're phrasing it they're saying the. the Biden Administration is inept. because you're seeing these classified. documents show up in Biden's home. because that's all stuff that was from. many years ago when he was the vice. president. yeah I I don't I don't I don't know.

enough about the nordstream thing I just. know that if it is in fact true it's. another instance where people were. labeled conspiracy theorists and then. five for three or four months later it's. like oh just kidding this is true moving. on this is something that Tucker Carlson. talked about on his show and you know he. bought into this whatever Seymour saying. I don't know you know it's it's hard to. it's hard for us to really know we.

really don't know so to say we know is. kind of crazy but the the idea that. they're a bumbling administration. because they found these classified. documents that Biden's estate just. doesn't seem accurate not only that my. suspicions when they found all these. classified documents and these documents. were released by his aides was that they. probably are concerned with Biden. wanting to run in 2024. the fact that. they've released that. me my conspiratorial mind was like. they're trying to sink him yeah I mean I.

don't know that that's even a conspiracy. I think they'd pulled the the party and. it's something like only 37 percent. wants him to run again but they don't. have another viable candidate I mean it. could be imagine if everyone leaves. California and then we get Gavin Newsom. I doubt. it's the it's the Peter Principle. I don't. you rise to your level of incompetence.

he's like and now for my final Act I. will destroy America yeah I doubt it I. doubt it but I'm not I'm not sure who. else is viable I've I mean Obama people. love Michelle Obama Michelle Obama could. be president I really firmly absolutely. believe that however would she want to. do that after experiencing everything. that they experienced all the racism all. the attacks over the the eight years. that Obama was in the white house why. would she want to subject herself to. that when she's escaped from it and your. nose not not just free but celebrated.

yeah they make exorbitant amounts of. money they did the Netflix show they do. their Spotify show they do all this. different thing they speak You're making. plenty of money you have plenty of. influence over the party yeah would they. want to would she want to do that again. [Music]. um. I don't know I mean I feel like if if. she did do it it would be either out of. she doesn't strike me as someone who'd. do something and I don't know anything. about her but my general impression is. that she's not really like maybe she has.

maybe she wants the power and the is it. the power or what if you want to make a. difference well that's my other thing is. like maybe it's a true Act of service. now I know saying this there's going to. be a million people are like the Obamas. are the reason America is where it is. today sure well I think no one does a. great job as president because I don't. think it's possible by the time you get. to that position I feel like you've. become so corrupted even if you have. ideals you've had to sell them out in.

order to try and make sense of all of it. yeah I don't know I it's unfortunate I. think in these leadership positions you. want people who don't want to run you. really want leaders who don't want the. job actually maybe that's her maybe she. could win I think she could win handily. I really believe that and then we'd have. another Biden and then we'd have another. Obama administration yeah would that be. better. would that be better than what we've got. right now well with her at the helm I.

mean certainly we'd be better in terms. of the way we view the presidency. because the thing about Biden is we view. him as being this compromised like. mentally compromised incompetent. bumbling guy who he slurs his words he. can't get sentences out everyone knows. something wrong is fetterman son the. hospital I don't know that poor guy. imagine he ran. that'd be amazing Debbie Lee they're. just Clowning us they're trolling us at. this point when he beat Dr Oz Dr Oz got.

to be like what the [ __ ] man I can't. beat that guy I mean it's it seems like. I I will be happy if we don't elect any. more olds in the next presidential. election yeah that would be nice it'd be. nice Trump is basically the same age as. Biden yeah he's old yeah I mean they're. no offense to the 80 year olds out there. but it's time I just laugh like the. Boomers just are clinging with those. gnarled and arthritic fingers said power.

well they're deeply entrenched in the. system and it seems like the system. rewards loyalty and rewards you know. being a part of the party and we need. some gen extra to run though [ __ ] that. they're not gonna do it no one wants. that job that's also part of the problem. the attacks that you get the way it. tears your life apart that's why I. really would be I'd question DeSantis. going up against Trump because the. unhinged attacks that you're subjecting. your family to from the crazy.

like Trump lights right and you know the. people that they're gonna call them a. pedophile or something or Something's. Gonna something else can happen I mean. you're already going to be dealing with. like the left calling you a Nazi and. then you're going to be dealing it's. you're going to be getting a two-pronged. attack but he's so measured and yeah but. that's why I feel like he'd if he was. very smart and measured it's hard it's. hard to because he's right at the he's. kind of at the you know the buzz is all.

around him so do you harness that energy. and say like Leroy Jenkins [ __ ] it let's. do this and Leroy Jenkins it's that. famous video on the internet where there. it came out and I'm gonna like spoil. this for everyone that it was fake and. and it's just a meme it's just a meme. what is it it's an old meme I'm dating. myself now 2005. what's the meme though. he's gonna play it for you. is it bad no it's just it comes from a. lot of places it's on you it's like an.

onion it's there and layers and layers. deep it's if I even start explaining it. I'm going to get lost and I'll be wrong. so I don't understand it it's just a lot. it's internet talk I don't know it's. something people say why is Leroy. Jenkins so famous because the character. became popular in 2005 his role in a. viral video of game footage where when. having uh been absent during his group's. discussion of a meticulous plan Libra. returns and ruins it by charging. straight into combat while shouting his. own name as a battle look at the video.

you have to play the video it's so good. please so what game is this okay guys uh. these eggs again what game is it World. of Warcraft okay does anybody need. anything off this guy or can we bypass. him. I think Leroy needs something from this. guy. oh he he needs those devout shoulders. doesn't isn't he Paladin oh my God these. dorks yeah but that'll help him he'll. better have more Mana. Christ okay uh Well what we'll do.

I'll run in first uh gave up all the. eggs we can kind of just you know blast. and all down with AOE. um I will use intimidating shout to kind. of scatter them so we don't have to. fight a whole bunch of them at once uh. my shout's done uh only Anthony to come. in and drop this out too uh so we can. keep him scattered not to fight too many. um when his is done bass of course need. to run in do the same thing uh we're. gonna need divine intervention on our. Mages.

we can of course get him down fast. because all these guys I mean we'll be. in trouble if we don't take them down. quick I think it's a pretty good plan we. should be able to pull it off this time. uh what do you think of dual can you. give me a number crunch real quick. uh yeah give me a sec. 32.33 uh repeating of course percentage. of survival repeating of course well. it's a lot better than we usually do all. right thumbs up ready guys.

oh my god. let's go let's go oh so Leroy wasn't. paying attention to their plan he just. came back from taking a [ __ ]. hurry up. and that's Leroy. I'll die yeah it's just everybody dies. yeah oh okay the plan went awry but then. what's funny is it that out of all the. people playing World of Warcraft this. one thing where he says Leroy Jenkins.

becomes famous well we came famous and. then like the I think the most. heartbreaking thing that I ever heard. was that it was it was wasn't it didn't. come out that it was like plot planned. it was something that was uh it wasn't. organic it was something that I don't. know I feel like I I had my heart broken. when I found out that that was something. that was like a it was planned it wasn't. it wasn't something that was just. like someone got on I don't know I've. been saying it for years I love it so it.

wasn't just a guide coming back not. paying attention I I feel like I'm gonna. break Hearts because I'm not sure that. every you're not gonna break Hearts no. one even knows how many people know how. many people know about this it's huge. you guys are so much more deep into the. internet no no you most certainly are. because you know about Leroy Jenkins I. didn't know about until just now I'm in. a chat and these women are so deep. they're at the end of the internet. they're so deep I don't understand oh. like 90 of the [ __ ] they talk about they.

have families yeah that's what's weird. the the World of Warcraft abandoned. children. like do you know how many people are. super super super addicted Duncan had to. put it away he could he was just lost he. was lost with it that was one of my. favorite South parks where they made fun. of all the World of Warcraft and like. the kids just got super fat and like bad. acne and they were just taking a [ __ ]. and like a bucket in their room. those games are so addictive they you be.

it becomes your life and it's constantly. thrilling and it's filled with. engagement and it's filled with these. little exciting moments have you got has. Tic Tac captured yet no I don't even. touch it I've never been on it I I was. watching those videos and I we I like. I'm convinced now that there's like one. there's so many people in China I think. each Chinese person or it's like 300. million of them are assigned an American. what makes you say that I'm just kidding.

I feel like it would just be a funny. it's like a funny idea that there's like. someone who's like got me in their job. is to get me to sign up for tick tock. and they're trying to like find the. stuff that appeals to me and they're. like oh I almost had her and then that's. just the algorithm. it's a funny idea of like if someone's. got you and they're like Joe Rogan. he's defeated me he won't sign up the. job is to get every American on Tick. Tock wow so all of our brains can.

collectively melt and become pudding. isn't it like the number two what what. is it now. what's the what's the number one social. media platform in the United States I. think Tick Tock is on the right Adam. Curry had a very interesting perspective. on this whole Chinese spyware thing he. thinks it's [ __ ] he thinks they're. all doing it he said they're all like. scooping up your data and Mommy the idea. that China is doing it differently than. we're doing it he says it's [ __ ] he. doesn't believe it he thinks what what's. happening is they're using that and. they're saying that because China is so.

successful with it the way they're doing. it is so successful I'm trying to say. it's Chinese spyware and they're trying. to kill the competition oh that's. interesting this is his perspective okay. and he's he said they're all trying to. emulate the success of tick tock which. is true which is why Instagram has gone. to reels and they're favoring reels and. even Twitter now if you notice when you. play a video on Twitter if you swipe. it'll show you another video right away. oh I mean I know they have the new thing. on what is it short shorts or whatever.

and YouTube YouTube yeah yeah they're. doing that yeah but that's not as like. that's like you find that in your. YouTube feed and you click on them but. then when you click off it just goes. back to regular YouTube yeah it goes. right back to the video that you were. watching because I'll show you I think. they're all trying to emulate the. success of that model of showing you. video after video after video you open. it up it immediately starts playing. things yeah I've seen my kids they're a. [ __ ] Hook Line in the Sinker my. nephews but what's fascinating is their. Hook Line and Sinker with very different.

things one of my kids she is the one. that tells me all sorts of interesting. facts and she her her feed is very. different like she told me do you like. we were having a conversation and I said. do you know how the American education. system was established she goes yes I do. it was established in order to make. people into good Factory workers and so. she gives me the whole Rockefeller. breakdown of the origins the American. education system like I go wow I go. that's from Tick Tock huh yeah so she.

starts telling me about all these. different facts that she learned on Tick. Tock and she's becoming educated from. Tick Tock they also think that Helen. Keller wasn't blind and that it's a. conspiracy theory so thank you there's. no not her but I'm saying there's. there's a dark side to this what I'm. saying is my other kid is the opposite. my other kid is just getting funny. videos and and funny dances and like. makeup tutorials and like this is what I. do when I'm going out this is what I do. at the gym so she's getting what is.

interesting to her whereas my youngest. is very she's very interested in. subjects and interesting things and. details and she has an incredible memory. and she pulls up these things she always. wants to tell me about stuff that she. learned on Tick Tock so we have these. really interesting conversations and she. laughs about how different her feet is. than her sister yeah yeah so it really. curates what you're actually interested. in no I heard the algorithm on Tick Tock. is amazing the difference in our.

algorithm versus the Chinese algorithms. work it's really weird because with bite. dance what they've done in China is it. favors athletic accomplishments science. achievements it favors martial arts. traditional dance it favors very. positive things and ours is like here's. a a gender transitioning person losing. their mind right but if you're into that. it'll show you that like it's not. they're not showing that to my kids it's. showing that to people that click on. that and become engaged with that and.

then it highlights the things that you. find that you're interested in but what. if you click on it just out of curiosity. then does it keep defeating oh yeah yeah. and then you get well you're curious. right that means you're interested it. doesn't know why you're interested it. just knows you're interested yeah what. do you think about all the AI. advancements lately. scares the [ __ ] out of me like the GPT. thing is bananas did you see that. Shapiro deep fake that someone did. recently that was so creepy well there's. crazy deep fakes there's one that uh.

Duncan put up go to Duncan Trussell well. not actually Duncan used. um one minute of Biden talking and he. wrote this like ridiculous plot and then. used a deep fake of Biden's voice with. an animated character of Biden pull it. up off of uh Duncan's Instagram because. it's amazing so this is one minute a. thing we don't know an uncone thing they. said you gonna do a down of the vehicle. uh silver craft they said it's the size. of a car I said show me a picture of it.

well uh when I was a kid it would be the. size of. um uh well a tenth of a card I'll tell. you a story a kid's size of a pebble. just this big kid size. only had a slink shot and they said to. the kid you won't be able to get him. down the kid was Daniel and he took out. bieleth and that's what it's about in. America I ordered a shoot down. now it's down problem solved thank you. and that's amazing that's one minute.

of this [ __ ] yeah yeah they're also. using deep fakes of uh people to make. ads now and that's become an issue where. they they're using people's voices. yeah I was reading and video as well. something about in the art world there's. you have to be careful when you sign. contracts in Hollywood or somewhere. where they're you're they're kind of. building in the ability to use your. likeness and and like deep fakes and AI.

so you have to make sure when you're. signing your contracts that you're not. signing away the rights to use your. likeness or image or voice oh it's with. voice over people that's who it's with. makes sense because if you've say if. you've done voiceover for a book they. don't need you anymore. they've got you if you you've done a. book that's so many hours of audio yeah. we're good we're done we'll just give. you a check for all future books yeah. and you no longer you said all the words.

yeah you said all the words yeah that's. it's real weird and illustrators are. [ __ ] because people that used to do. animation for you know animated shows. and things like that they no longer need. artists I know they no longer need. artists for advertisements they can make. I mean we we highlighted uh our I. highlighted on my Instagram someone did. they did the art of Alex Gray and they. did a series of uh images in the art of. Alex Gray and they look exactly like.

something Alex Gray would do and they. probably generated them in a couple of. minutes instead of months and months of. Alex Gray laboring and painting by hand. and obviously it's not as valuable or as. interesting because it's not coming out. of an individual's hands and that's what. we like about art you know like Taylor. Bose made this painting of Mitzi Shore. yeah you know like that painting is very. very important to me because I love. Taylor he's a great guy he's a friend of. mine and he's an artist a real artist. and he made that and he also made the. Jimi Hendrix that's out there yeah I.

love that one I love it too but it's. like. someone could make art in the style of. Taylor boss and do it that way yeah and. you it would be indistinguishable yeah I. mean that's a very strange thing for. illustrators and for artists and you're. seeing these artists rallying against. this rightly so because it's probably. going to take work away from them and. it's probably going to devalue their. contributions yeah and not to mention. the fact that they're scouring the. internet learning from them oh yeah it. scours everything it's not just scouring.

them I mean you can have a combination. of like Jackson Pollock and Alex Gray. yeah you could combine things yeah it's. writing stand up like it'll write stand. up in in the style of Mitch Hedberg or. right stand up in the style of Bill Burr. you know I'm done I mean I'm a writer. they don't I can I could just be like. write a blog with this topic in my voice. if I give it enough information I'm sure. people are doing that already and people. are definitely writing term papers and. yeah they're definitely like cheating on. high school exams with it the Atlantic.

had a whole article about like how it's. the death of homework basically yeah. because you can get an individual. completely original essay every time. it's not like it'll write the same one. um and if you put your enough of it's. it's I don't know it's strange though I. wonder I wonder what the reaction will. be to that if it will become a hyper. authenticity you know people will become. more there's always a blowback so will. people be craving more authenticity well.

there's definitely going to be people. that cherish authenticity the problem is. we're only dealing with chat gbt 3.5 I. know this is a singularity we're on the. like direct Ascent part portion of this. oh it's past the curve yeah I agree yeah. well have you talked to Lex Friedman. about it are you friends with Lex I wish. I was I'll connect you guys Welcome. Friends while you're here he's he's like. my my I just love how much love he puts. out into the world that's really who he.

is it's not [ __ ] at all he's a fat. fascinating and wonderful person yeah I. would love to talk to him about this I. love him to death he's one of my. favorite people I love talking to him. and he's so he's so good even in the. face of attacks and criticism he got so. much ship for stupid book lists that he. put the internet is so such a bully yeah. like you're just bullying this guy for. putting out a book list well they were. bullying the idea that he could read. these books so quickly they could read a. book A Week.

book lists itself they're like this is. like a basic high school book list you. know but I I haven't reread a lot of. those books since high school that's the. thing he's rereading them yeah these are. all books that he's already read but I. agree that you can't read War and Peace. in a week. I don't know if you've wrote War and. Peace in that list but some of I think. you could read Animal Farm in a week you. could you could read on the road in a. week yeah yeah yeah you know he wrote it. in a day on benzo or whatever like he.

wrote it in a week was he on benzos when. he wrote it so have you ever seen the. original just it's like one long sheet. he wrote the whole like first draft on. just a long spool of paper that it's. like straight the guy was I love Kerouac. though I love. I love I love all all of his stuff I. don't think I've read that since I was. 18. it's so good it really is when you. read it you're like yeah this is why. this is why it's a classic I am one of. my favorite books and the reason I.

always wanted to learn Russian was Crime. and Punishment it's just so brilliant I. think that was on his book list too for. a week okay that's a tough one to read. in a week it's just that's a scroll oh. my God look at it that's crazy what a. wild dude he must no what a night look. at that scroll look at it that's. something if I had billions of dollars I. would want to own oh my God how much is. that worth I don't know. maybe it's like in a uh somewhere yeah. yeah who owns it it's so crazy just.

imagine that time. on a typewriter two million two hundred. thousand dollars it's not that much. owner of the Colts Jim irsay the owner. of the Indianapolis Colts football team. well he's probably just some baller owns. a bunch of [ __ ] come on my house I'm. gonna show you a saber-toothed tiger. head that's like this there's a writing. desk that I wanted so badly with and I. had a back Gammon table underneath it it. was so freaking cool and I was so poor. and.

um oh my gosh why am I completely Robert. Downey Jr swept in with his bags of. money and bought it it was the front. down the street this little place and I. was like gonna try and do it on layaway. because I knew the woman and I was so. broke and I wanted it so badly and she I. went in and I was like here's my doing. like my contribution to my to this back. I would go in and look at it every day. because how much was it I'm sure sure it. was nothing it was probably a couple. thousand dollars but this was when I. this was like 2008 2009 when I literally.

like too poor to buy shampoo was it. famous for some reason no what are you. talking about then it was just that it. was just a table it was a right it was. like a writer's desk with a backgammon. table underneath it was just cool it was. like a nice piece and it was in just a. little local so you're just complaining. about being poor no no I'm complaining. about Robert Downey Jr sweeping. it's one of the things no it's not it's.

just something I it reminds me of. something that I wanted and I really. someday feel I'm going to play Robert. Downey Jr backgammon on that someday you. think so I don't know okay I'd like I'd. like to I'd like to just take a look I. bet the thing that bothers me is that I. bet it's just sitting in somehow. somewhere collecting dust. yeah you worry about that with. everything that people buy I'm not.

worried about it I'm just joking but. owning like old things like that Kerouac. things that that's where things get. fascinating because that is really a. part of literature history. you know it's like that's kind of an. important piece yeah like you you could. make the argument that that should be a. museum somewhere yeah it's valuable yeah. not just valuable like culturally very. significant like you wouldn't want it to. be hidden from people obviously the. original work you could buy in a book. form and that's readily available.

everywhere but the original piece like. for people that are fans of literature. yeah it's something I would definitely. purchase if I had like you said just. tons of money and could buy cool. cultural things like that well that's a. weird thing that people do when they. have tons of money they buy things that. are illegal like they buy like Egyptian. artifacts uh stuff that was like. pilfered from Iraq you know that was a. yeah artifacts like Sumerian artifacts. from Iraq like when the fall of Iraq. once Saddam Hussein went down a lot of.

that stuff was like pilford and stolen. one of my favorite stories when I was in. Alexandria in Egypt and we were going on. tours around and there was a garbage man. because there were just Antiquities. everywhere like it's there like in. everyone's backyard in Egypt it's just. stuff you find when you dig and the it's. a it was like a uh a burial site with. tons of mummies in it and that's what we. were looking at but the story is this. guy who's a garbage man was taking the.

mummies out and he was selling them on. the black market for underneath all the. garbage and he got busted in his 80s. because they were like how is this. garbage man like worth millions of. dollars. he got extremely wealthy and it turns. out he was on top of a hole like it was. this whole I don't know how many mummies. were in there it was crazy it's a funny. it's just like one of those stories that. stuck out to me how bizarre would it be. to go over someone's house they have a. mummy and that's a crime you know that's.

oh in Egypt you can't but they don't. want their Antiquities leaving Egypt. they've lost enough well they've lost so. much that's what's so [ __ ] in terms of. Egyptian history is that so many of. those tombs have been raided over the. years it's been long long ago to the. point where you're never gonna find that. stuff and who knows where it is now who. knows what whether it's been melted down. the Gold's been melted down I just wrote. about this when I was in Egypt and I was. staying in Luxor and it's right across. from the Valley of the Kings and I had.

like the It was one of the writing. prompts and the question was do you. believe in reincarnation and I was I was. like I think I had like a past life. regression in Egypt but it was crazy. just Egypt is nuts have you been there. no it's it we went I went right after. the revolution so it was empty so there. was it was almost like getting a private. tour of this place that's generally. filled with tourists we had no line to. see King Tut no line to S to go into the.

Great Pyramids it was it was like on our. cruise down the Nile there were supposed. to be I think a hundred and some some. odd people on the cruise and there were. 14 of us people were like why are you. here because it was right post that rev. the Arab Spring oh I know and it was. right after they had voted so they all. had their purple stamp on their finger. and there was all this optimism and it. was before they realized that you know. it all kind of went back to normal and. they had to choose between two what has. this chair never heard of any of these. things I found something that said they.

had unwrapping parties in Victorian. times so I Googled mummy on rapping. parties and then stumbled across why did. people start eating mummies ew what so. they would not only unwrap them stuff. [Music]. stuff what. what. the Royal and socially eating mummy. seemed a royally appropriate medicine as. doctors claim mumia. m-u-m-i-a was made from pharaohs royalty.

eight royalty oh my God by the 19th. century people would no longer assuming. mummies to cure illnesses but victorians. were hosting unwrapping parties where. Egyptian corpses would be unwrapped for. entertainment at private parties. Napoleon's first exhibition into Egypt. in 1798 peaked European curiosity and. allowed 19th century travelers to Egypt. to bring whole mummies back to Europe. brought off this tree in Egypt they.

recently found one in someone's Attic in. England that's how I said look at the. picture scroll up look at that [ __ ]. picture oh God it's so bizarre this is. the most rich person [ __ ] I've ever. heard that is so creepy that's so creepy. that's dinner drinks in a show we're. gonna unwrap The Mummy after college I. found a head in someone's attic recently. whoa yeah because there was like a real. big Egyptian kind of fetish that was.

happening during when they were when. they opened up to going into Egypt and. exploring and it became kind of all the. rage and I think in like European. culture they they became all obsessed. with it when you went there um how many. days did you spend God I was there. two over a little over two weeks wow. yeah it was amazing I I we we did. I kind of. we started in Cairo and then stayed.

right by the pyramids and. sasakara we went down to Luxor it took a. there's tons to see in Luxor took a Nile. Cruise which I would do again in a. heartbeat it was amazing and you just. kind of float down the Nile and then. stop and there are all these amazing. artifacts that you stop and see and take. get off and. um then we stopped uh we went to Nubia.

and then flew down and saw. um the big oh I'm blanking the big. Ramses. um they're huge what's the name of it. it's um. South. and then flew back and went to. Alexandria which I loved there's just. something very Cosmopolitan about. Alexandria and we were with a bunch of. locals my one of my mentors in Cairo was. Henny rest in peace he he was an artist.

and had all these young art students who. lived in Alexandria and they took us out. and we played dominoes and like the. Egyptian dominoes and the drinking tea. and went to this amazing Mediterranean. restaurant and ate there's just so much. history there it's it's so wild and just. the Alexandria feels like one of those. cities that's just been burned to the. ground and it's like Barcelona in that. way yeah and the crossroads of all the. cultures mixing it was it's yeah it was.

I definitely felt the most. uh like oppressed as a you know you have. to cover up as a woman and keep a scarf. on and when you're going into certain. places and you feel that that true kind. of patriarchal society that exists was. it that way at the pyramids. um yeah I mean it's it's just in the air. you know it's it wasn't like. it was more so I think when we got into.

the smaller towns and than it was in. like the bigger city Cairo is nuts Cairo. is madness the Trap people it people. will it's like LA traffic it's just but. crazy people are driving everywhere it. feels very at that point too there was. no one really in charge so it felt very. crazy and Lawless and and in Egypt at. that time to be around the structures oh. so when I my reason that I think I had. my little past life regression is I.

stepped out on the balcony we got that. it was when I was with a very wealthy. man and we got the king farook sweet at. the Winter Palace which is right um. where we start the cruise and I stepped. out and looked at the Valley of the. Kings and I was one of those kids that. was just obsessed with Egypt from the. time that I was a little girl I just was. always obsessed with all things and I. stepped out and I felt this weird like. like a pulse hit my heart and they'd. given us hibiscus tea and I thought.

maybe there was like something in it I'm. like maybe I'm just dosed or something. and I'm about to have a crazy Acid trip. and I ran to the bathroom threw up I. started like it was weird my body. reacted I started shaking uncontrollably. and I could not leave this balcony for. like a day I was just shaking and I kept. feeling this weird pulse and I was like. I've been here I know I've been here I. know I've been here in my in my life. many lives maybe probably as like not.

not a rich person probably a like a. someone who is a Tomb Raider or maybe. just that someone who dug the ditches. but I just felt like I had been there. before and it was almost like going back. to where at all that's how it felt to me. this sounds crazy I know but it doesn't. sound crucial it felt like this is where. it started well it's where it started. for human civilization and I saw all. these crazy things in my life like all. these other people in my life and how. they were connected and how I had met. them four in different places in my life.

and then but I had kind of a panic. attack and thought I was going to lose. my mind and end up in a straight jacket. in an Egyptian mental ward and luckily. the guy I was with he could have been an. [ __ ] and he had seen some like weird. Sixth Sense witchy stuff for me when we. were in New Zealand so he kind of was. like all right she's a little touched. there's something off with this one. we'll let her like work through this and. we had a couple days before we had to go. on the cruise but I wasn't sure I was. even going to be able to function I.

couldn't eat anything and the the hotel. was so nice they brought up a table and. like brought us this nice soup from this. very fancy French restaurant that was. there and they were very sweet and I I. finally stopped shaking after like three. days and I started I was just like doing. yoga trying to come back into my. physical body I felt like I was out of. my body and at night I would have these. horrible night terror dreams where I. could swear people were in the room like.

robbing us or burgling US it was very. strange for days. and then I feel like I get I get like. anxiety when talking about because I. really felt like I was having a panic I. it was like I I had a panic attack and I. don't know what it was I still to this. day think it's the weirdest it's one of. the weirdest things that's ever happened. to me and then we went on the Nile and. it's things kind of calmed down but it. was it was a very strange very strange I. loved being around all those places.

there's just so much history and the. craziest thing and most revealing thing. was how. our tour guide you look and you're it's. like one of the hieroglyphics and. pictures that we saw was what their. medicine looked like and it was a. picture of. basically no difference between a. surgeon's table today and what they were. using then it was a bone saw and all it. looked exactly like if you took a. picture of a modern surgeon's you know.

little tray that they have and I asked. her I'm like what happened to this and. she said it literally got buried under. the sand it just got buried under the. sand and we went into another cycle of. kind of superstition and conspiracies. and did what Randall Carlson and Graham. Hancock have talked about all this it's. all the younger driest impact Theory you. don't know about this I haven't I've. been I've been hearing I was reading. something that the Egyptians are mad. about this the younger driest impact.

theory is backed by real hard science. and this real hard science is done. through core samples and through a. knowledge of when we pass through Comet. storms and they believe that somewhere. around 12 800 years ago the the world. like 30 percent of the world has. evidence of this that we were hit by. multiple chunks of rock from space and. that ended the Ice Age it flooded North. America removed the ice caps that. covered half of North America was. covered in a mile-high sheet of ice 12.

000 years ago and it all almost. instantaneously went away on top of it. going away it left behind the Great. Lakes all this melting all this massive. erosion and when they do core samples. when they dig in through the Earth at. that period of time at 12 800 years ago. you find levels of iridium which is very. common in space but very rare on Earth. you also find evidence of these Nano. diamonds these micro diamonds that occur. on impacts they're called tritonite.

they're the same diamonds that they. found during the Trinity explosion or. trinidite I think it's called but this. is direct evidence that the world was. hit and that civilization was most. likely reset that there was a very. Advanced civilization Egypt is the best. example of that because to this day they. don't know how they built those [ __ ]. things they don't know how they move. those rocks I have no idea they have. rocks there were thousands of tons that. were moved from hundreds of miles away. they really don't know what they did. they don't know how they cut them they.

don't know how they placed them they. really don't know and what these. egyptologists and these archaeologists. that have this alternative view of. History believe was that there was a. thriving incredibly compact complex. society that existed prior to 12 800. years ago and that they were hit and. that our thoughts of civilization. emerging around 6 000 years ago in. Mesopotamia in Sumer that that was a. re-emergence of civilization after. thousands of years of Barbarian life.

because the survivors of this impact the. the United States was you know whatever. whoever lived in the United States at. that time the the evidence of it was. almost completely wiped out and then the. people that were lived that lived in. Egypt they were almost completely wiped. out and that what you get after that is. people sort of reimagining what life was. like and trying to duplicate it the the. newer stuff in Egypt is much poor design. than the old stuff and they really don't.

know how old the old stuff is like the. idea of the pyramids being 12 000 or uh. 2500 BC. that's just based on some carbon tests. that they've done excuse me on. little particles they found inside the. cracks of the stones but the problem. with that is. they've recovered those stones they did. a lot of work on those stones many times. like there's many like that doesn't mean. that they were built at that time they.

can't carbon date the exact time that. those things were constructed they can. just carbon date some of the artifacts. they find in that area that are from. biological materials yeah I definitely. you should go I mean. I mean it's. worth it no I definitely would go but. these guys and you know this guy from uh. bright insight and uh Ben from History X. we we've had podcasts about this where. they discuss like their trips there and. yeah and the real evidence that shows. that this younger driest impact theory.

is most likely correct so what's. controversial about their Theory why do. they get because I know I've read a lot. of egyptologists and Egyptians get very. mad about it I'll tell you because first. of all people have staked their career. on a specific timeline the specific. timeline was the construction of the. Great Pyramids 2500 years along with uh. the the construction of the Sphinx and. all these different things and so. they've been teaching lectures writing. books and this is something that these.

archaeologists have said we know of this. is a fact but they don't know it's a. fact and the more EV one of the things. that they said back then when they were. challenged because there's a guy named. Dr Robert chalk from the University of. Boston University and he's a geologist. and one of the things that he said is. there's very clear water erosion around. the temple the Sphinx that indicates. thousands of years of rainfall the. problem with that is the last time there. was heavy rainfall in the Nile Valley. was like 9 000 years ago right so that.

would [ __ ] with any timeline that placed. the construction of that at 2 500 BC. okay so they think it's thousands and. thousands of years old so this is hard. science in terms of geology and erosion. and these these water fissures indicate. thousands of years so it would have to. have been thousands of years older than. then right so when you go 9000 BC or. 9000 years ago you got to deal with. thousands of years of rainfall prior to. that to create this kind of erosion and.

so when they went to these egyptologists. and they presented this data they mocked. them say what evidence is there of an. advanced civilization from 10 000 years. ago there was none at the time but then. they found Gobekli Tepe and go back. space in turkey and there's this massive. Stone structure of enormous stone. columns and pillars that were absolutely. dated to around 12 000 years ago wow so. they know that at that point in time. when they thought that people were just. primarily hunters and gatherers and.

that's it they built these immense. complicated structures with thousands of. tons so they don't know thousands of. tons of stones arranged in these circles. and concentric circles is that like. Stonehenge much more complex but they. don't know about houses they don't know. how stonehenches yeah but this is much. more complex and much larger and. enormous and on top of that only five. percent of that area has been excavated. they've found tons of them that exist. around that area that haven't been dug. up yet by use of lidar and all these uh. this all this different stuff they used.

to find things that are under the. surface I wonder what they'll find after. this horrific earthquake yeah well I. think have you seen the videos of the. the cracks. so like where the Earth just like. follows I haven't seen it I'll send you. some it's just like entire Olive. Orchards and just a huge scary show it's. so scary I know I was like I've got to. get out of couch these so this is the. pushback is it these archaeologists who. have staked their careers on this very. specific timeline they don't want to.

accept new information so they're being. very dogmatic about it oh okay and it's. a lot of ego based stuff because they. are the ones who are in possession of. the truth they're the ones that tell. people what the age was they're the. experts right but it turns out these. experts are being challenged like in. many other places by people that are. independent researchers that are. objective and open-minded and just. dealing with the evidence on top of this. the younger drive's impact theory that. you have a specific set of scientists.

that only study impacts that are. absolutely convinced this happened based. on real hard physical data okay so. there's real hard physical data that. around 12 800 years ago the Earth was. hit in multiple places again there's. evidence of this 30 percent of the Earth. was hit I wanna I wanna go down the. rabbit hole I'm gonna have to watch that. oh my God there's so many of them but. Randall Carlson's the best at it yeah I. definitely yeah him and Graham Hancock. and Graham Hancock's Netflix series is. based on that oh okay the Netflix series.

is called ancient catastrophe okay and. it's amazing and you you see evidence of. this stuff all over the world that they. can't really explain yeah they don't. know how they have this sophisticated. technology to cut these stones to move. them into place crazy they don't know. who they were oh it's amazing it's so. it's it was one of my favorite favorite. trips of all the places I've been it was. definitely. yeah there's something that you just. feel there I'll send you some videos and.

you'll go down the rabbit hole and. you'll get freaked the [ __ ] out I've. already freaked out because the real. problem is it happens every year in June. and November that we pass through these. these Comet storms and you know most of. the time you just hit meteor showers. right you see them in the sky but every. now and then we get whacked and we get. whacked on a regular basis and there's. plenty of evidence there's five thousand. years ago. um outside of Australia we got hit yeah. there's uh evidence of Antarctica in. Antarctica they've found recently found. a crater this massive crater that.

indicates that that got hit. what's that I didn't know that sound was. on what are you playing there's a more. meteor just came in France two nights. ago or something oh oh is that the comet. well they also think that was a green it. was like they also think that look at. this or the meteor they also think that. this was responsible for that meteor. that hit Siberia in the early 1900s okay. you know this was the one one that was a. tongue. for all this stuff but that was a big.

one that it it flat and it exploded in. the atmosphere above the forest and. flattened millions of acres and to this. day they're still [ __ ]. I mean we don't know anything and it. also happened during the same time of. year so during the time of year that we. believe that they believe rather this. younger driest impact Theory happened. okay not only do they think it happened. at 12 800 years ago Graham Hancock and. Randall Carlson also believe it may have.

happened again at about 10 000 years ago. so these people had like a chance to. regroup and then boom got rocked again. well that's what she said when she said. it literally got buried under the sand I. was like how that's it and she was like. well you know she's I don't know they. don't know yeah and it's weird you'll. see. um one of the cool things in some of the. the places where you go and look you'll. see where like the co the Coptic. Christians am I saying that right Coptic. cop deck I'm sure the they they defile.

like the old they'll like scratch out. the eyes but it's all along the top. because there was so much sand and all. of the. you can see like most of it was buried. well not only that there's different. layers there's Old Kingdom stuff and the. Old Kingdom stuff appears to be even. more sophisticated instruction methods. with larger stones and that's below some. of the stuff that's they think is more. modern and a lot again a lot of that is. buried in sand and they have to dig it. out right they don't even know if.

there's more stuff that they haven't. discovered yet yeah it's crazy but when. you hear Randall Carlson and Graham. Hancock these guys that have dedicated. decades to discovering this they they. think that this is very clear evidence. that humanity is that human beings are. species with amnesia and that we don't. re we think that we are on a linear time. path of progression and and. technological Evolution no and he. doesn't think so and he thinks that. there was a completely different path of. technology that existed back then and.

that they were using something to move. these things whether it's sound or some. hereto unknown technology currently that. they use this to move these rocks and. cut these things and put them in place. in this incredible Precision that we. don't even understand today how they did. it that's what's so crazy it's amazing. amazing and the fact that these people. even if it happened at 2 500 BC it's. still [ __ ] amazing that four thousand.

five hundred years ago people were that. sophisticated yeah that's what was that. was the thing that struck me the most. when I was there was when you actually. see that stuff in person you're like how. how did we know how to do this and. forget yeah well you know there's also. some stuff that's even more that's. insanely complex that is almost. impossible to imagine how they did it is. these vases they made these vazs out of. totally out of stone and they're. perfectly symmetrical they're so.

symmetrical that the distance between. them the variation is like one-seventh. of a human hair yeah and they have. handles on them so so they don't know. did they turn they didn't turn them on a. lathe because they have these handles. it's one piece of stone that they carved. into these perfect vases and then. there's also these statues that are. perfectly symmetrical so these carved. statues where the distance between the. eyes the distance of the cheeks and. those everything's perfect and it's. carved out of stone like how the [ __ ].

did they do this that was like the where. I want to find the name of the place. that I went it was it was um with the. Ramsay statues because they had to move. it it's UNESCO world heritage site and. they had to move it because of the dam. yeah so they had to cut them and right. they had to replace them in the right. Precision because of the way it was. lined up it was lined up with like the. Equinox or something that perfectly hit. I'm like how how yeah how did they do. that Abu symbol thank you yes the. temples that moved yeah they had to move.

them that place is amazing it's all. incredible the fact that this existed. thousands and thousands and thousands of. years ago when we thought of people of. being just like using using [ __ ]. copper tools and no like shooting. everything surgery like we're doing it. today I mean it's it's crazy it's pretty. amazing yeah it was I I've never been to. Israel I really want to go there too. there's just that whole region it does. feel just like yeah it's that that place.

is really worse it's like a day flight. that you take down there but it's well. worth it it's the beginning of human. civilization as far as we know it and. most likely that's what's left because. it's the most immense and the most. complex and the most timeless structures. because even if the Earth is [ __ ] and. covered in dirt those things are made. out of stone yeah and two million 300. 000 stones in the great period they. weigh tons and they're moved from. quarries hundreds of miles away to this. incredible Precision yeah they think.

that human civilization at one point in. time was very very very sophisticated. and very complex and we were much more. advanced than even we are now in terms. of our construction methods and our. ability to move things and that they had. some different kind of technology and if. we think of our technology currently. right and compare our technology. currently to the technology of just 500. years ago which is nothing back then the. distance in time it's unrecognizable 500. 000 years ago or 500 years ago you have.

no internal combustion engines you have. no machines and trucks and no cranes and. you have no video you have no cameras. you have nothing you have nothing that. we enjoy today that we think of as. sophisticated modern technology so all. this stuff can emerge so quickly today. that if you imagine they used to think. that human beings in this particular. form the way we are now is we're only. like 50 000 years old or a hundred. thousand years now they're going back. two hundred thousand years or 300 000 a.

year it might be a million years yeah of. so that's so much time for people to. innovate in advance yeah and advance to. a point in a different way than we have. advanced today yeah that's what's so. nuts I I just love this stuff I love it. too but I also love it because it's a. big warning that our life is very. fragile yeah it's so fragile look the. power went out in Texas because it was. 33 degrees and raining and the trees. first I know 33 degrees that ain't [ __ ].

right and everything was [ __ ] imagine. something. catastrophic like meteor impacts no I. know everywhere all over the Earth. instantaneously passing through a shower. of comets that's slam into the Earth. you'd lose most of everything yeah. that's like that the show Last of Us yes. I it's there there's that one scene. where she's like oh you got to go up in. the sky and it's like don't spoil it I. haven't gotten that far oh only on. episode three okay sorry.

no I'm sorry I'm sorry I I'm only saying. it was a moment where I'm like you can. lose everything you lose everything so. quickly I mean that was everything my. spoiler look if you've ever seen there. was um uh there was a National. Geographic show I think that they had. like uh Earth without people like what. would happen if we died yeah if we like. how long would it take before nature. would overcome us oh yeah there's a. great book about that it's not long it's. called the world without us yeah and he.

talks about it from kind of an. environmental. um you know talking about it looking at. all the harm we've caused. environmentally say how long would it. take for the radio active waste and uh. it's CO2 that's in the oceans Etc and. it's not by Earth standards that long. and then you look at what we leave. behind and it's not really that great. well the thing is what we leave behind. if you think of our freeway the. structures like the World Trade Center. the new tower like that would be gone in.

a few thousand years yeah you would rot. away and it would follow the ground it. would be it would get assimilated back. into the Earth yeah but the stone. structures of the pyramids wouldn't and. won't yeah and that's the difference and. that's why we know if if this if the. ancient Egyptians didn't construct the. pyramids if they didn't make those. things and they got hit like say if they. were at a level sophistication of like. the 1800s people there would be no. evidence there would be nothing there. was something in Turkey there was an old. castle that managed to survive for a.

very long time that just got destroyed. and then you see when the Taliban goes. into places they'll start blowing up all. of the the Antiquities because. apparently life doesn't exist before you. know. well it's against the religion yeah like. Buddhist uh things and yeah there's. there's there's always going to be. people that destroy the past there's. always going to be people that think. that their their current ideology is the. only one and the people of the past were. devil worshipers or Satan that.

earthquake oof I keep looking at the. videos of it it's it was a big one. pictures of those earthquake figures but. we're so vulnerable we're so vulnerable. to natural disasters we're so vulnerable. to super volcanoes we're so vulnerable. to but the big one is impacts so here's. the fissures Drone footage shows the. wide fissures. there are some ones that I saw of like. this Olive and this is nothing for the.

Earth these little hiccups these little. movements that destroy and kill. thousands of people yeah do cracks. that's nothing for the earth I mean you. look at mountains those mountains exist. because of volcanic activity that's why. I love Joshua Tree. cracks or something like 200 miles long. or something yeah and there are some. that are super deep my Joshua Tree the. the rocks in that are kind of exposed. they're like half the Earth's age old. whoa yeah. that's why it's my favorite place and. they and it took them I'm like talk.

about patience to come to the top of the. Earth but they they have they're it's. crazy the geology in that Park is nuts. well our ideas of the the Earth is. stable or it's so Preposterous we're so. foolish and we look at in terms of a. lifetime of a timeline which is just a. blink of an eye so nothing it's just. nothing and we don't know I just I I we. just don't know we don't know I I. recently had a friend who found it's a. sad story so but she found out she had.

this very rare cancer and she's gone in. two months and she's four my age two. kids doctor healthy. like he's a doctor yeah but it's super. rare you would miss it it's um I can't. remember the exact name. um but it's it presents as like a bruise. often in your extremities. and it was just like. it's it's just super fast and no no. indication they're planning their trips.

it's it's so sad it's we don't know from. like that big perspective but we don't. know from that that perspective too you. know you just then we get caught up. talking about like. drag queen Story Hour you know yeah I. mean we get trapped thinking about these. stupid stupid things no I mean it's like. truly presidential elections and. the you know the right versus the left. and the culture wars and all the the. stupidity having a baby really made me.

not it made me care less about the. culture wars I just in a weird way I. think I'm gonna probably have to fight. more it's like I want I want a good life. for her I want her to have the ability. to be free and pursue what she wants to. pursue. but it also made me realize just how. Petty it all is and anything that takes. away from the people that you love and. we're not here for that long we're not. here for that long we're just not and. you and that's assuming that you live an.

average lifespan yeah that's not. assuming that you have something tragic. happen so I think that's what I try to. important perspective into comedians. that are constantly engaged in Conflict. I'm like you're wasting time yeah that's. why I started right club I'm like let's. create I want to just that's why all. that's why when you say do what you want. to do I am doing what I I love making. people laugh about the news cycle. because it's absurd I love absurdity I. love pointing it out I love having. interesting conversations with smart.

people who know way more than me I heard. you recently say in many ways your. podcast has been like an education for. you and that's how I feel about mine if. I didn't go to college but my walk-ins. welcome feels like college to me and I. love being able to just put out creative. it's so hard it's so easy to destroy and. easy to go online and toss bombs and. easy to and I feel like a lot of those. people it's like take that energy and go. create something the problem with.

creating is creating leaves you. vulnerable whereas destroying you're. you're constantly on the offensive it's. easy to do but it doesn't do anything. other than get your attention and I. don't think it's that fulfilling oh it's. definitely not well they all become they. all become damaged all those people that. attack people constantly online they're. all like psychologically damaged and a. lot of them fall off after a while. because they can't take it anymore do. you think that the comics who are. engaged in lots of drama is it just a. way to distract from having to do any. work well there's that and they're all.

mediocre one of the things you notice. about the comics that are constantly. engaging attacking people they're not. very good right they're not successful. they're not that good but do you think. they could get good yeah sure anybody. can get good it's a matter of remapping. the way you think yeah and re you know. changing your the way you view the world. and change changing how you express. yourself and also being a little bit. more self-aware and a little bit more. aware of how other people view things. and whether or not you can contribute in. a positive way instead of a negative way. yeah and the people resonate towards.

positivity they really generally do. there's there's definitely a like a. sideshow effect or like a car crash. effect of negativity that people like. want to look at it but they don't get. engaged and like really like attached to. it like with you with what you do the. fans that you have are fans because they. enjoy what you're doing and they go to. it to get more of that yeah they get. more positivity and fun and you're. really good at pointing out those. absurdities you're it's really it's a.

fun place to go to get a hilarious. perspective on these like Troublesome. issues because it's easy to get lost in. it all like you said and and then we. forget we're blips we're like a half of. a breath's worth of light of life and. all of this this is kind of absurd yeah. well there's a lot of people that don't. see it that way and that they're [ __ ]. yeah but it's easy to take yourself very. seriously because then you have to feel. important but I I don't I don't know I.

feel like it's much easier if you go. through life and you realize like you're. gonna die this is all kind of absurd do. what you can love as hard as you can and. yeah it's definitely better for you. again those those people are probably. very frustrated that they haven't. achieved what they want and that's one. of the things you see in comics in. particular as they get older and they're. not doing well they become very social. justicey because you can get a lot of. attention by point you get engagement by.

pointing out certain things and saying. certain things in a very specific way. but it's really a lot of it is a. distraction you're not really fixing the. world all you're doing is like patting. your own ego and you're attacking people. because you think that these people. haven't passed your purity test but. what's hilarious is when that purity. test comes back on them and they get. [ __ ] devastated and it will it always. does it will and you can't lose yourself. to bitterness you know and that's like. we were talking about earlier it's easy. to believe that you are being suppressed. or like the algorithms against you but.

that lends itself to falling into a trap. of thinking that you're a victim. thinking thinking in this way that isn't. it's not productive it's narcissism a. lot of his narcissism because you're up. upset that other people are getting more. attention than you and you feel like you. deserve more and you get attacked those. people that get attention instead of. doing something that's positive and. worthwhile and that resonates with. people yeah. yeah Bridget. we just did another three hours oh wow. it always goes so fast like that I.

always feel like we're just catching up. yeah we are just catching up it's always. great to talk to you you too thank you. for having me I appreciate you very much. and I appreciate your perspective you. you have a very unique and hilarious. perspective on current events and I. don't think you get enough credit for it. oh I I mean I joke a lot where are my. accolades on on dumb survival accolades. but it's always like a joke I don't I. just love people you know your your. audience is awesome because so much of. your audience has so much of my audience.

has found me through you obviously and. they are such good people I will say. like the stuff I've seen in my. subscriber Community is people rallying. together and and donating and supporting. each other it's like there you attract. good people that's awesome yeah I. appreciate it I appreciate you I. appreciate you too all right goodbye. everyone. kisses Happy Valentine's Day. [Music].