Joe Rogan Experience #1827 - Kristin Beck

[Music]. what's happening how are you we're doing. this. nice to meet you after how many years. trying to get this yeah we talked i. think we first talked like four years. ago or something about four years ago. yeah. so um i'm so glad we waited though yeah. because i'll tell you what.

four years ago i was a mess ten years. ago i was a mess in what way. i just i didn't know what i was doing. and there's no like there's no like. workbook or a cookbook or there's. nothing out there for anybody to. especially me you know i was born in the. 60s right and so trying to. figure out my life with no guidance and. nobody out there it's been real struggle. i did a uh i did a real in-depth reading. one time with this person who was like a. deep high up shaman from uh.

malaysia or over there somewhere maybe. philippines but he did a reading he said. you're gonna have a real tough life. how long were you when this happened. when oh this was kind of in the middle. of a lot of it because i was just i was. just all over the place and i was like. and one of my friends said hey. i have this person who i want to give. you a gift. and uh he bought me this session with. this guy. because it was i guess it was super. expensive because i probably couldn't. afford it it was. uh it was a long reading too it was. about two hours the guy really got in. depth asked me a ton of questions and.

really got into it he had all my star. charts right down to like my geo. location of birth my exact time minute i. had all the info for him and so he. worked all that stuff before i did the. meeting with him and so he was going. through like tons of stuff and the. biggest thing he said well how does it. like the time of birth and the geo codes. like how what is what are they trying to. get out of that well maybe that's. probably where we should start yeah. stuff that i believe and like where my. core beliefs lie. you know is i believe there's something. there's a creator there's a god whatever.

you want to name it there's something. way bigger than us. you know and i believe that and i also. believe that we are energy beings like. we're energy our soul like what we're. made of it's a piece of energy it's a. piece of that right that's how i believe. and so if you have that kind of belief. system you can also believe that. everything else is energy all the. animals all the all the trees all the. rocks everything has an energy. now if you can line all that energy up. and you get it right down to where you. are. imagine all that energy and how it lines.

up right when you're born like right. when it's happening yeah so if all those. planets all the earth and everything. else is this this. all that energy is setting at one. location for you. right at that time. boom okay now i'm here. it's still going to imprint on you. all that energy and all that focus and. all that stuff is there and that's your. spot so is the idea i believe is the. idea that the different planets in the. different position in the sky. they all have an effect on gravity we. know that it has an effect on 100 yeah.

we know it has an effect on the tides. right that's that's a big part isn't. that a big part of the tides is the. gravity that comes from the moon i mean. think about how much [ __ ] water we're. talking about that's a lot right that is. kind of crazy is that real though. that's weird i need to know that if. that's real. is that what causes the tides i don't. think a little bit we'll find out we're. going to find out what gravity this is. important to find out because the theory. of gravity i mean i think that's a it's. a bs theory anyway gravity is a bs. theory i think it all has to do with uh. buoyancy it's archimedes you know i.

don't know what you mean okay so. archimedes principle is basically the. buoyancy. if you take your entire body and you put. yourself in water right the amount of. water you displace right is basically. that and the weight of that water. displace that's your buoyancy so if you. displace. more water and it weighs more than you. that means you're lighter than the. amount of water you just placed that. means you float. right now if the water you displaced is. is less than your weight then you're. going to sink it's just buoyancy right. so if you drop an apple from thirty. thousand feet.

that's how high we used to jump for seal. teams. the fun jumps we can talk about that. thirty thousand feet but yeah it's fun. stuff that's crazy but if you drop an. apple yeah that's like real airplane. height like delta flight it's mission. yeah delta yeah like for real sale teams. i know but i mean american allies delta. that kind of delta yeah those guys are. cool though man i love the guys that. brag so listen what it says here i think. this is what we're looking for okay so. it says uh i don't know how you say that. word a pyrogen. how does it say that.

in spring. tide uh occurs when the moon is either. new or full and closest to earth. and so what does it have to do where. does it say anything about gravity well. i can give you another one i guess. there's something do you have anything. where it explains the amount of effect. that the gravity has moon's pool okay so. the moon's gravitational pull. high tide low tide so. during high tide. the moon's gravitational pull does. affect the the tides that's what they.

really didn't called scientists this is. not an article though this is just an. image. that's what i was trying to find is. there anything that shows it i thought. that would be a quicker way it seems. like there's something to it we're so. dumb we need cartoons now that's i just. thought it'd be easier to go that way. all this stuff up there this is all put. out by scientists who have been talking. about you know cernicus and everything. else for the last you know however many. years since what 13. so let's just read. what the answer is it says high and low. tides are caused by the moon the moon's. gravitational pull generates something.

called the tidal force the tidal force. causes earth and its water to bulge out. on the side closest to the moon and the. side furthest from the moon these bulges. of water are high tides. so it is because of gravity which is. amazing so that what i'm getting at is. everybody likes to poo poo the idea that. someone can figure out what happens. if someone's born during a given time of. the year. but if the moon has so much of an effect.

that it changes tides it moves. how many how many [ __ ] gallons of. water are we talking about right i mean. five or six. so it's a lot of goddamn water and the. gravity of the moon is moving that [ __ ]. yeah like why wouldn't we assume that. jupiter and what position jupiter is in. the sky or mars in the sky that all must. have. some kind of effect on something and if. whatever and if we're water like we're. kind of mostly water aren't we like 60. something percent water what is the.

number of percent water people are. we're like 78 or something it probably. affects you yeah it probably affects. your [ __ ] swimming pool if you have a. swimming pool it probably moves a little. well here's something funny though you. brought up swimming pool. you know the great lakes how big the. great lakes are yeah how come none of. the great lakes have tides. uh that's a good question so the moon. and the sun can't move the water into. great lakes but it can move the ocean. but they do have crazy waves in adult. men about 60 of their bodies are water. however fat tissue does not have as much.

water as lean tissue in adult women fat. makes up more of the body than men so. they have about 55 of their bodies made. of water that's so true because uh big. muscular guys that cut weight for the. ufc they can cut a lot more weight. because they're storing it in their. muscles okay like big yoel romero. looking dudes those guys can cut a ton. of weight because they have so much. muscle it's the guys who are leaner that. have a really hard time with it yeah so. anyway so this thing is a chart that. they do of you and it's dedic it's it's.

based on what time you were born and. where in the world you're exactly yeah. right and so do they match this up with. some sort of uh. astronomical map of the stars i wish i. had mine so he draws a lot out he does. the entire astral plane all of it every. planet all of the like even comets like. you have everything in there anything. that was in that area for that. whatever he does. and he reads all of it. and there's like.

10 things for each one of the planets so. you can go and do it and he'd put it all. together and so what he was saying was. i'm gonna have a really tough life and. i'm gonna have to go to the underworld. and uh do you know what a hey okay is. sure yeah yeah it's actually a clown. yeah yeah that's the name of my car. yeah yeah sacred clown so when he talked. about heyoka explain that to people you. don't explain that what that concept is. so the concept is is the uh it was not a. court jester because court jesters all. they're doing is being funny and goofy. the heyokas and nathals and the sacred.

clowns and all these were actually. religious leaders in the community but. also have the ability to speak and say. whatever they wanted and that's that. comedians up on stage when you have like. a chappelle and who was chris rock and. all those other guys they're up there. telling jokes and we should probably. talk about this too later on maybe about. the whole transgender and all the other. stuff people are getting busted for. doing jokes for being a helicopter. heyoka's purpose is to mess with our. heads a little bit and make us think. yeah that was there lakota's idea was.

that everything should be tested yeah. and. one of the ways to test ideas is to poke. at it and make fun of it. like there's certain things you can't. make fun of. but there's certain things that don't. want you to make fun of them and maybe. you should a little bit it's good for. everybody to get made fun of a little. bit. it's just. what is uh what is the purpose of it in. our society today yeah you know that's. where it becomes like a question like. are you allowed to joke around about. certain subjects or are you going to get. upset.

and and it varies with people too it's. like yeah some people don't get upset at. all and some people get furious if you. even breach subjects. you know which is i don't think good for. anybody what else people who get so. upset. about. those jokes or about all this stuff. how weak are they that they're gonna let. that affect them to such a point where. they get so angry that they attack i. think people feel different today you. and i are kind of the same age yeah and. um i think people feel very different.

today about their feelings and they feel. very differently today about. what it is when someone insults their. feelings. when we were kids it was super normal. for people to insult your feelings. and i don't know if that's good or bad. because it's like. as i get older um one of the things i. realized is like my mom. uh. was the child of immigrants and i think. like that those generations of people. that first came over here like in the. 1940s and 1920s.

they they had such a hard scrabble life. man that they maybe weren't the nicest. people to their kids. you know it's like there was a lot of. like beating your kid if your kid did. something wrong every kid got hit back. we all got hit everybody got hit and we. all deserved it. but it's weird it's like i don't think. you should hate your children yeah i. think we know now that it's not a good. idea because it really perpetuates more. violence and it also sends a message. that that's the only way to handle. something is to put physical pain and.

you know inflicted on your child. which i don't necessarily think is the. right way to do it but i do think that. there's something about. a little bit of adversity a little bit. of disagreement a little bit it's like. it. it makes you more relaxed around that. stuff whereas with some people today. anything that they think is offensive is. a such an egregious. you know crime on humanity and they they. want to attack you with every fiber of.

their being it's like what is going on. for real though you just like have such. a hard time with like especially the. dave chappelle special like why don't. you tell me what he said that was so. awful because that was part of the. problem was nobody was saying. what specifically he said which was so. horrific but in this case they really. couldn't because it was really a love. letter to his friend i mean that's like. but the last part of it is basically. like he took his friend who killed. herself and he put her as the closing. piece of a gigantic comedy special that.

everyone's going to see. and he did it with dignity and he did it. with kindness and he did it with true. friendship yeah and it's still still. people are furious yeah. still. it's just one of those things man the. concept of the heyoka i think uh i think. we could all use a little of that in our. lives. doesn't mean you have to be mean. why couldn't everybody use a little bit. of it yes everybody needs it. everybody needs a little. little humor. but there was that time the sacred clown.

like you're saying to hilka that this is. medicine so that's why it was like a. duty of the medicine people and. historians yeah because and that was. basically in a viking culture they're. called thous i don't know if i'm. pronouncing it correctly it's like. t-a-t-h-y-l-e something yeah but they're. the exact duplicate of guadalca or a. sacred clown or any others it's amongst. all those tribal communities from back. in those days they all had those. positions you know it's like james. campbell or. young. the archetypes you know you always have.

that medicine person archetype within. any culture. and back in those days that medicine. person archetype was part of that poking. the bear and making sure the king knew. you're not wearing clothes you know hey. you're doing that wrong hey this is. messed up and make a joke out of it make. it kind of funny said the king is not. offended and everybody goes oh yeah that. is true how many gestures do you think. we're assassinated. that'll be the riskiest job. you're trying to make a [ __ ] king. laugh what if you're annoying and he.

just decides to kill you in front of. everybody is that what's happening with. cancer culture right now no is cancer. culture of the king. it's a different thing but no it's just. that the absolute power of a king to. just kill somebody if they don't like. what they're doing like that was one of. the weirdest things about game of. thrones and that kind of [ __ ] when they. would cut people's heads off and stuff. you'd be like yeah i could see people. doing that i could see someone who had. total control just killing someone. because they don't like their joke that. evil little blond-haired guy yeah that. little [ __ ] yeah i can see him do it.

yeah the sun yeah it's uh it's like uh. whatever it is about human nature yeah. that. there's there's like certain places that. people can go to here's a question for. you. when you were talking earlier about our. age group so we're our like x generation. or we're yeah. i'm at the tail end of baby boomers. right at the beginning of x. so. we grew up in a community you know if we. were doing something wrong any parent in. the neighborhood could give you a whack. you know everybody was out playing do.

whatever we want but we were always yeah. people hit other people's kids yeah it. was. but that's what it was you know you're. gonna be out until the street lights. turn on and if somebody you know don't. do anything wrong because you're gonna. get whacked by an older kid or a pair. yeah. but it was a big group it's like a. collective it was we had like realities. are different than today's reality yeah. today they're so individualistic and. they're so everything is subjective. everything is relative and so it makes. nothing is true because if you think if. everything's subjective in a subjective.

reality what's true. i know what you're saying. so i lived in objective reality so did. you because we grew up in like this a. very religious very red white and blue. america we're a great country we don't. do everything right but we're pretty. darn good and that was in all our heads. it was pledge of allegiance in the. morning so we all had like this this. truth this. thing that we knew was true. god is there and god bless america and. america is awesome and here we are and.

let's get on with business you know. that's the way i saw it now if you look. at the kids growing up today they don't. have any of that they don't have there's. no religion anywhere near them pretty. much they're on social media all time by. themselves so it's all about. individualism it's all about subjective. it's even going into the words when we. start talking about. gender stuff and some stuff maybe later. after we get some of this background. stuff down but they're taking words and. they're even making a word subjective so.

now we don't we no longer have just male. and female we have a hundred other. things and who knows in another year or. two doesn't mean a thousand more genders. well isn't that one of those things. subjective. yeah but all people. always want something in their head that. other people don't have. and if you could just change names of a. thing and decide you're a zero. or you're a you know have you ever seen. those tick tock videos where people. describe the type of sex they are. and they say it and like with some crazy.

thing like i'm only attracted to someone. with one sock on you know like they'll. they'll say that like that's the type of. sexual they are like one's soccer sexual. it's it's. it's. there's a certain level of indulgence. when it gets to that right. but like who are we to draw the line. that's the problem and it's like without. that thing that structure. of you know i believe in god i believe. in country and i believe in you know and. the united states is an awesome place. like none of those things are bad things.

to say but if you say those things. people associate it with ba it's almost. like we're ashamed of ourselves right. right. but if you say that to a lot of people. in america today and say it that way. they'll genuinely be like almost. insulted yeah like it's it sounds like. if they had to say that or they had to. think that to be like i'm not saying. that. like we've done some horrible things. america is terrible that's what i said. we've done bad stuff we're not always. right but there's overall we're pretty. damn good there's a lack of. an appreciation for that it's just how.

humans operate yeah and it's not that. the united states is wholly bad it's. that people are [ __ ] up this is about. as good as it's ever been this this. right here this craziness. you know this is about as good as people. have ever lived. it's [ __ ] up yeah but it isn't. because it's not the mongol hordes. you know it's not people fighting off. barbarians it's like we were doing. better when we had a little bit better. you know. appreciation for law enforcement and. yeah there was uh there's just it seems.

like the pandemic [ __ ] a lot of people. over too. it would have been interesting to see. like where we could have gotten as a. culture because i think like. culture accelerates pretty quickly these. days and it would be interesting to see. where we would have gotten if it hadn't. been for the pandemic. i think we probably wouldn't have been. so. anxiety written i think that's a big. part of what we're experiencing now is. like the the aftershock of the pandemic. people who lost friends and people who. got injured and you know or got wrecked.

by it yeah there's a lot of that still. in the air like whoa what the [ __ ]. happened and then also there's like a. distrust. for like how did this happen tell me the. [ __ ] truth but tell me the truth how. of this [ __ ] happened because no one. i don't trust him right but no one gets. this really sure fire. so like no one no one presents anything. to me i go well that's definitely how it. happened no need to worry about the lab. leak yeah everything seems to me. weird it just seems to make way more. sense that it came from a [ __ ] lab it.

acts like a virus from a lab. right did you get it. i don't know everything i don't trust. the test it's like that pcr test i don't. really know if it's really testing for. covet or a record flu well that's. interesting right isn't there some. there's some crossover in the way it. tests like some some mistakes. isn't that the case. yeah when did they figure that was that. because of the amount of cycles they. were running because i remember there. was um a thing where they were saying. they were running 40 cycles at one point.

in time and then they switched it and. lowered it because they were getting too. many false positions. yeah the guy carrie mullis who um. invented that pcr. he did not think it was a good idea for. testing viruses that way yeah there's. like an interview where he's discussing. it yeah and he gives him a final. inert yeah doesn't necessarily mean it's. because it's so high you could just find. stuff in you it'll always pop positive. yeah well i don't know if always when i. say it dial it way down yeah but it's. it's like it's not you're you're not at.

risk for developing the disease. necessarily yeah but it's also. back then nobody knew but you nailed it. too it's just like just tell us. something yeah sometimes i can hold on. to it i don't think they want to tell us. that it came from a [ __ ] lab if they. 100 knew it came from a lab i still. think they'd be like the results were. inconclusive because it's just like too. terrifying for people to know that. something that killed millions of people. came out of a lab. like that that's wild.

in the back of our minds don't we all. know it came from a lab. boy we've been messing with these. viruses and stuff forever it's a. military i can never say i know for sure. but um the people that i've talked to. know for sure. look at fort meade i'm pretty sure it's. fort meade but there's like i mean. there's there's stuff that we've done in. the us military at all these bio labs. since like world war one well we've. definitely had these crazy labs we went. to visit one i went to visit one with. duncan trussell we went to the one in. galveston the cdc whatever it is oh yeah.

yeah dude it's terrifying. you're behind all these walls of glass. and you get to see people in there with. the [ __ ] suits there's tubes like. yikes. this is crazy. and that. but you know what he was saying he's. saying the the worry is not about um uh. someone developing something it's. interesting in retrospect because this. was like back in 2012 i think it was he. said the real fear is a natural event. like something happening from uh. agriculture like a like a pig farm or.

something like that that's where a lot. of them come from. he's like that's that's what we really. have to be worried about. earlier when we were talking about the. kids growing up all that the one thing. that i think that we both spoke about we. didn't say it a word it's just respect. yeah that's true too that's one thing. that people have out here like kids say. so to you yeah they're like very. respectful people raise like respectful. people out here yeah there's something. to that man it's like what you were. saying about the the the whole thing.

about. like. what's missing. you know is. the respectful thing but also like. the being upset at almost everything and. anything it's the ability to express. yourself so yeah like impulsively on a. phone like anybody could just express. themselves and then they're in an. argument with someone who disagrees and. then they use a [ __ ] hand and they're. just doing it back and forth all day. that's an unknown entity on the other. end of some follow with you're not even. in my follow group you're not even part. of my circle i don't care what you say. it's really.

it's really interesting because there's. so much [ __ ] information that's. flying around like we were talking about. earlier like i don't know if that [ __ ]. works where they can pinpoint where you. were born at the time you were born and. figure how it all lines up with the. constellations and have some sort of an. effect on you. but it but when it doesn't seem totally. unreasonable man when he was going over. all those charts i kept going yeah so. the charts were like yeah that's true. saying that you're going to have a. [ __ ] up life because of all the data. that they were getting from this reading.

wow. like when you read it through there he. says you have a couple paths and it. looks like you're gonna have a really. tough one this whole area here. and he just kept going through why and. he was showing me the planets and. talking through it it was the craziest. couple hours i've ever had so. when you say you don't believe in. gravity like you really do believe in. ground oh yeah gravity exists yeah i. just don't like calling or gravity. because it's still a theory i just think. that it's about buoyancy the reason i'm. not going through this floor right now. is because i am less dense than this. floor the reason that apple goes through.

the atmosphere the apple is heavier than. the atmosphere until it gets to the. water but it's lighter than water for. you know if you do archimedes principle. on all of it everything can be explained. by. a vibrancy. i see what you're saying but. but both maybe. maybe both yeah but that unknown force. we got rid of for sure like we had the. apple displaces the air yeah yeah and. falls the ground but it's also getting. sucked into the ground by gravity. like both those things are real. something else is going on something.

else and i just i think it's like the. ether it's the and it was something that. tesla went into really big too was that. other. substance and then einstein i think is. the one that messed all this up because. they started changing the name of it and. trying to write away the ether and it. had a few different names for it but. it's basically that it's the stuff. that's in between all the atoms do they. know. what causes gravity can they tell you. exactly what causes gravity they know it. has to do with mass right it cannot. explain gravity would you say jamie.

don't look at me for this one i don't. know come on come on scientists the guy. who got an a in physics. well if it isn't a thing where they can. measure like they can look at the mass. of a planet and they can say how much. gravity. like right isn't that true there's. there's formulas for this stuff yes. that's in that why the earth like when. you go to the moon you're really light. because the moon is like one-sixth. earth's gravity. if you have that planet right here okay. it's going to cause the there's like. this.

there's a time space continuing all. these planes of space. they bend when they go around that. object and so the space actually bends. around the earth and then free and it. gets flat again and which makes it. bigger here okay so if it's a bigger. object. yeah and so that will make more gravity. this more gravity here so if you're here. and you start falling in a hole that. makes you're going to fall into that. gravity hole right here that's how it. was explained by einstein and i think it.

was also by hawking and a bunch of other. ones they all talked about how the time. space. was full it bends yeah when it has that. large mass well you know that's what bob. lazar said those spaceships do. those spaceships that they were trying. to back engineer he said they're working. on this. working off of this element called. element 115. that it was just theoretical it wasn't. even proven that it was a real element. until.

sometime in the 2000s but he he was. saying this in like 1989. it was like. they have a stable form of this element. 115 and it sits in a reactor in the. craft. and what this thing does he said he. likened it to. taking a bowling ball and placing it in. the center of a mattress yeah so like. the mattress like he's like it like. bends the gravity and instantaneously. propels you to a place that's cool and. they were trying to figure out how to. make it work i want to read on that one. it's wild [ __ ] mask because if they can.

do that and why. why wouldn't we assume that that's the. next form of travel if they really do. know that at least theoretically it's. possible to bend space. it's theoretically possible like there. was a movie what was it um the event. horizon do you remember that one it was. like a monster movie in space and that. was the thing is like they were going to. be the first people to do it and so they. the way they described it in the movie. it's like you would take like a piece of. paper fold it in half put a pencil. through the center of them and then. unfold it and like you go through.

instantaneously through all that space. you just have to pick the first two. spots get your spots. there's a lot of cool stuff they're. gonna do that someday if you just think. about something going on besides just. the theory of gravity just saying and. the mass and all that there's other. things going on and i think that's what. tesla was trying to tap into a lot of. the other ones that think about the. energy fields that all around us so. there's gravity and there's a bunch of. other there's a magnetism there's a lot. of other stuff going on right so it's. not just one force because the middle of. the earth has a magma and this iron core.

spinning. it's like how does that work. but they do know that these planets have. a pull on other planets yep they do know. that so there's obviously something. going on to the theory of gravity. like there's there's something going on. to large objects pulling things towards. them that's because that's why uh. jupiter saves us because if it wasn't. for the the gravity of jupiter we'd be. [ __ ] because so many asteroids go. slamming into jupiter because it just. sucks. yeah it's bigger than us what was that. van allen belt.

the van allen belts radiation belts yeah. that's not protecting us from but how. does that how do you if you go to the. moon you have to go through those. radiation belts right well the way they. described it is like it's like um like a. hula hoop or like not a hula hoop like a. barrel but with no top and no bottom and. you can shoot out the top so that's what. they do and they shoot out the top and. apparently you don't have to go through. the van allen radiation belts. so it'd be at the north and south pole. but then i've heard [ __ ] that if you go. through the belts you can go through the. belt because it's a short amount of time.

with high exposure if you have a certain. amount of protection i don't know we're. going deep in like space well it's it's. you know it's kind of freaky [ __ ]. because i've talked to people about it i. said well what ha you know there's like. a lot of micro meteors out in in space. right now oh yeah they're all over the. place well what happens if you're in a. rocket ship and you're going to the moon. and you encounter a micro meteor and it. hits the craft he's like where you're. [ __ ] dead i was like you just take a. chance like you have to i guess you do.

i mean like a small thing the size of a. marble would nuke a [ __ ] spaceship. yeah right wouldn't it oh yeah you'd. think i would think how fast they're. going they've had some. holes in the space station right haven't. they. because they're just floating around up. there i think every now and then they. get whacked by stuff there's gotta be. holes in that thing do you remember that. movie with sandra bullock. remember that movie with a little little. piece of junk from space slams into. their i started watching it i just. couldn't get through it no i started. watching i was like man this is. oh look at that piece of space junk.

damages the space station just punched a. [ __ ] hole through it. jeez. that stuff's just floating around up. there we left a bunch of [ __ ] up there. golf balls and weird stuff do you know. how many satellites must be flying. around it is so crazy that we did did. that without any like thought of like. what happens in the future when these. things start crashing into each other. there's a junk up there i mean how much. the the most what is like the worldwide. number of satellites if you had a guess.

take a guess. [ __ ]. 100 000. i bet you're right i bet it's about that. no i bet it's more. i bet it's 200 000. oh we have all those. little micro satellites too. and the seal teams we had our own little. micro satellites we could shoot up how. big are those. it's classified oh. really no there's some small ones though. there are there are some real small ones. that we can shoot at 100 000. uh yeah. according to.

the internet. i don't know the source there's like 8. 000 at the most i'm seeing that's it. yeah really currently flying somewhere. between 6 500 and 8 200. oh interesting. when they come no no just current like. at the moment just flying off the road. yeah i was looking into space debris and. how much stuff is all total up there but. oh god i think that's history there's. got to be a hundred thousand. wonder shoot stuff up there all the time. well but they didn't really start until. the 60s though right is that when they. started putting satellites up there when.

they start doing that. yeah they had to be able to carry next. stuff right i mean well they probably. started shooting [ __ ] before people. obviously right like i think so i don't. know. sputnik was the first one so spot nick. was 59 or 60 so you ever see the movie. no it's [ __ ] dope. it's a russian horror movie. about these guys these russian. cosmonauts that encounter an alien and. then bring it back to the base it's. really [ __ ] good. it's all dubbed.

that's the first one 1957. 57. since. then 8 900 satellites from 40 countries. have been launched. wow yeah i thought it was 5 000. remaining orbit i thought it was way. more too 5 000 remember. operational yeah that means 3 900 fell. from the [ __ ] sky they're still up. there jesus. oh they're still up there they're both. or a little mixture of both oh so they. didn't fall from the sky they probably. would burn up though on their way in. right. i wonder i mean i wouldn't bet on it.

do they always burn up don't chunks of. them fall to the ground. that's interesting maybe they design. them they mostly burn off maybe they. design them to burn up because they. don't have their deflector shields not. ceramic stuff on them so they really. it's just going through the atmosphere. they would have no protection how wild. is that they go so fast they burst into. flames yeah 60. of the rocket bodies. and 60 to 90 of satellite mass burn up. during atmospheric re-injury that's. still 30 and 10 of rocks coming from.

[ __ ] space hitting you in the head. that seems kind of crazy. that'd be a terrible way to die oh my. god hit by a satellite i don't want to. die by satellite have you seen that. movie sputnik jamie no i think it's uh. in closed caption now that i'm thinking. about it i don't think it's dubbed was. it a straight-to-dvd movie um i think it. was one of those movies that i was funny. yeah oh new uh i was flipping through um. like uh itunes movies and i just clicked. on it i was like what is this and then.

it got it had good reviews. and so i uh. i watched it but it's really [ __ ]. good man it's very interesting very. unique movie. that's cool like it's uh. it's it's not like it's it's very. russian. but it's not like any horror movie i've. ever seen before it's like a complete. original. and the storyline behind it is really. fascinating yeah it's like they. wanted to.

contain this thing and and do something. with it which is i think exactly what. people would do. if they if we encountered something from. another planet. i don't think they'd tell us about it. they probably would never tell us they. wouldn't tell us joe biden telling us. [ __ ] he would lie. he wouldn't tell us about aliens. if he's hopefully we didn't get in. trouble they seem to be talking about it. a lot lately which i tell you makes me. more suspicious. they're prepping us for uh project. bluebeam i just.

i feel like i'm being [ __ ] with like. if if the [ __ ]. the the cia and nsa and the dea they're. all telling you about ufos well you know. what project blue beam is what is. project proof beam project blue beam i. knew about the book. so it's a it's a ufo project it's. basically they didn't really want ufos. they wanted to be like a religious. something. up in the sky so they can take all these. lasers and whatever they're doing i. think they even use you at uavs now so. they fly them all around there and they.

can make full like solid looking you. know objects in the sky really anywhere. they want. so uh if you thought that one after. project blue beam my my thoughts on this. whole ufo thing lately have been like. the more they talk about it the more i. think it's fake. and the more they admit that they can't. we have no idea these do not come from. an earthly source like but they're. prepping us they're going to get us. ready for bluebeam and when they do it. they're going to see i told you the ufos. are everybody's scared i think they can. make stuff now.

they're going to totally that looks like. ufos i think they have drones now i bet. that are like ufos i bet that's a lot of. what we're going to see. i don't think you can um. there's you can't know. how advanced some military technology is. yeah because it's so interesting how. they do it it's like even though they. have a they have a budget it's like how. much do they spend we don't [ __ ] know. we don't have anything. nobody gets to like imagine if you could. vote on what you want your money going.

to like you know how much how much do. you want your money going to military. how much you want your money to go into. education how much to infrastructure. and you could just vote that way and. everybody could vote not just for a. candidate but vote for the the. percentage of your own personal money. that you want to go you have to pay the. same amount of taxes but you can choose. you can say hey i'm opposed to war so i. don't want to donate to that or i'm. opposed to education i want people. stupid i'm not going to vote you know. but. we would we would i mean that would be.

that would be ideal right because then. representatives could never. not represent their constituents they. would have to. there wasn't that that would be on the. table yeah so then you'd have to figure. out what to do with that money because. if you need more money for prisons or. you need more money for cops or you need. more money for teachers like you should. now make the case yeah so if you ever if. everybody gets to vote for everything. that would be really interesting cool. the problem is people don't have time to. learn about stuff.

you know if you're voting for like uh if. there's anything that involves. finances most people have you go eyes. glaze over you barely paying attention. to interest rates i was trying to think. of what that what kind of government. would that be called. it's it's even representative government. a representative technocracy. because we are a technocracy right now. you can't deny it yeah we're definitely. and we're it's it's interesting because. i think these entities that became a. part of the technocracy these immense uh.

tech companies. it was not their idea to do this. they were just twitter was just trying. to come up with like a thing where you. could like talk to your friends like. and remember do you think the old days. you just want to hook up with somebody. yeah. or meet friends from high school and. meet back up with them when you remember. that when people would poo put like at. like at jamie vernon is going to have. pizza. do you remember the earliest days of. yeah yeah that's what people would do. yeah now imagine that that stupid thing.

would go on to be like the number one. source of. information and and of propaganda well. propaganda too but also of. conversations like the amount of. information that gets exchanged and the. amount of people interact with each. other on twitter it's crazy yeah it'd be. cool to see the numbers it's nuts i. don't even think they know the numbers. that's what holding up this elon musk. deal what's crazy yeah those numbers are. crazy well they don't know the numbers. of the fake accounts is that going to. end up being uh something with the uh.

sec that they were given false numbers i. don't know for their i don't know how. that works i don't know if they know. because it's not whether or not they're. false it's whether or not the um. the method they use to find out is the. most effective method i don't think but. if twitter knew it had false accounts. and it had a lot of other false data. going through there and you're saying. these are our numbers they were given. false numbers the sec perhaps but i. don't think that would be with their. knowledge the way it's it's very.

complicated because how do you prove. that an account is real and there's also. a problem there's people that have real. accounts but they use them like they're. not a real account yeah so they have a. real account they log in but they don't. post at all they just read stuff which. is fine right yeah it's true but some. people don't want to interact with. people they'd just rather just read. other people's opinions on things those. people would be treated as if they have. a fake account yeah so it's like how do. we know how do you is there a way to. know and i think elon has proposed some. way to know but i don't know what that.

is. um but the way they do it is it's like. i don't know if you're accurate or not i. don't i don't think they know there's. there's accounts that are fake accounts. that are these um internet research. agency accounts that they're like. indistinguishable from regular people. they're posting because they're active. yeah they're posting memes they're. commenting on stuff they're getting. people to comment on stuff for for the. account and they you know they seem real. reasonable or they act like a normal. person and they're just literally it's.

like. it's a [ __ ] it's not even ai man it's. like a room full of people yeah are. doing this yeah the farms yeah it's wild. because you can find like tweets where. you see the same exact wording in like. multiple accounts like whoa what the. [ __ ] is going on here and then you. realize oh my god these are bots this is. crazy like how many of them are there. but i i have a couple of accounts and i. run my accounts differently like one. i've run it super conservative and i. have another one i run it super liberal.

yeah. that's interesting you should have. multiple accounts because what happens. is there's an underlying program. i'm just going to call it the moonraker. so there's an underlying program under. everything and it's a government program. and in that government program as soon. as i start seeing keywords it will start. pitching holding you into. certain data fields. and it does it it's like super deep. web complicated program but it will. pigeonhole you and so if you start. running something really conservative.

and making comments and really hitting. it hard you know on all that stuff and. liking it your account will become more. and more conservative if you have a. liberal account and you're doing a lot. of liberal stuff on there and i'm saying. i'm saying democrat gop whatever left. right i do it because i want all the. data. so i want i want the knowledge and the. thing is if you're going to start. pigeonholing me because of stuff i say. then i want to be pigeonholed as far as. i can get on that one. account and then the same thing for the. other one do you have a centrist account.

yeah i do. have three accounts but i mean and. there's also there's a there's a place. out there it's a website where it. actually takes left center and right and. it gives you the data from all those. places it's a really cool comparison. website and it does it for politics. that's a weird thing about the whole. algorithm that it does sort of curate. information and it kind of promotes the. echo chamber mentality echo chamber yeah. that's what i was trying to get because. that's what you're into so that's what. it gives you. and you know it gives you things that. you're you get upset by because those.

are the things you engage with the most. so can you imagine if i only had one of. those accounts so if all i had was a. conservative account. and that program i was moon raked into. all that area. i'm gonna see so much anti-left and so. much other stuff and everything i'm. being fed is going to make me angrier. and angrier against the opposite. yeah and it goes both ways algorithms. are. very interesting because i could see how. it would help in some ways like it'll.

suggest things to you that are. interesting that might be. right up your alley. and that would be that would be good you. know and you enjoy the site more it's a. better product for you but then there's. the other thing that does when it comes. to opinions and it locks you in with. yeah and it gets it also like seems to. that sort of. engagement is almost like it's uh. instigating [ __ ] instigating. disagreements it totally does yeah and. that's why i don't understand.

what the reason what would why because i. think they didn't anticipate it i think. they thought it was going to do the. first thing i think they thought. everybody's looking for like some. insidious plan but i think it's just. human nature and i think what they were. doing was showing you the things that. you engage with the most yeah so like. our my friend ari shafir he did an. experiment and he only. viewed puppy videos. on uh youtube and all youtube would show. him was videos of puppies yeah so. because that's what he asked for right.

now. well that's but that yeah but he's do he. just did it for the experiment as you. did you but if you are that person that. clicks on those kind of it's just going. to show you that stuff but it's not that. it's insidious it was designed i think. to enhance the experience so if you're. looking for like you like watching. european football so like you're looking. for these matches and then all of a. sudden it's suggesting all sorts of. other matches and it's like oh this is. great i don't even have to look for them. they're right there in front of me it. helps you you engage the platform more.

but then people are so crazy yeah that. what we want to do is get upset by stuff. yeah and even though the world outside. like bill hicks used to have a great. joke about that about watching cnn and. uh about like you know they were talking. death aids disease death everyone's. gonna die you know you never lived to be. a hundred and i forgot what the joke was. then he would open up the door and look. outside and be like where the [ __ ] is. all this [ __ ] happening. it's like. the there's a thing that happens if you.

focus only on negativity yeah and if if. you only focus on negativity it's very. bad for you it's not you can get too. much information and it's not how you're. supposed to. live as a human you're not supposed to. interface with. seven billion people's worth of [ __ ]. it's just too much you literally can't. exist like that it's terrible for you. and there's a lot of people who do that. and that is one of the things that's.

heightened us on top of the pandemic so. you have the pandemic that [ __ ]. everybody up and then you have this. social media that's sort of naturally. accelerating everybody's anxiety and. freaking everybody out. and it's closing in all our echo. chambers yeah so if all we're hearing is. that one point of view yeah we're gonna. really hate the other side yeah i just. think that's what we fell into our whole. country is falling into that trap. there's a lot of people that i knew that. were like pretty reasonable people. that during the pandemic especially just.

ramp things up to such an extreme you're. like my god man are you okay. you're so political like i go to their. their their twitter page and it's just. filled with politics stuff. it's like i thought it did do it yeah. it's a whole world though it's a world. you know what i mean like you know. baseball fans like to read off stats. yeah these [ __ ] political people that. get really political it's like man. you're almost like a sports fan you're a. sports fan for the democrats maybe it is.

their team hey i really think that's. what it is i think there's a real. problem in having parties at all i think. you should just have people with ideas. because i think when you have parties. it just makes people want to like if. you're on one side you don't like the. other side you don't listen to their. reasonable ideas [ __ ] them they're the. enemy we're going to crush them come. november you know and it's like that's. probably not healthy it's probably not. healthy for the country because people. naturally tend to gravitate towards a. team that accepts them whatever it is.

you know like you you pretend you like. things to get in with the cool crowd. yeah people do that they do it all the. time yeah and that's a natural tendency. for human beings to want to be connected. to a tribe yeah and it's like you don't. necessarily want that you kind of want. to be able to have a lot of ideas in. your head yeah you don't want to have to. like be like if i believe in this i. believe in that because it's a part of. my tribe i hear it from all sides yeah. maybe i believe in this but i think. that's dumb yeah maybe maybe i think you.

guys are a little oversensitive yeah. like. have you ever heard of loose traps loose. traps. oh sh loose. loose trap. what is that that's a little bit about. what i was talking about when we get. into those echo chambers and we get all. the negativity and when an underlying. program. is constantly feeding us. all the information to make us deeper. and deeper into our own. you know neolithic you know self. everything it's just it's our way of. pulling all the data so to lose trap is.

a it's a negative. it's it's piling on all the negative uh. feelings and negative information and. making people get ah that anxiety that. angst that anger. and so delusions actually and it's. probably going into the religion and. spirituality a little bit but if you. believe. that there's good in the world then you. also kind of have to believe that. there's also the opposite if you believe. there's that good energy can heal. like there was that one experiment they. did at some university or somewhere.

where everybody got around a thing of. water and they give good vibrations and. good energy to the water and then they. studied the water under a microscope and. the water was in this really cool. geometric shape then they did the same. experiment with some water and they were. angry at it and yelling at it and being. mean to it and the water was all just. combined in a weird looking i saw that. but i didn't know if that was [ __ ] i. was always going to ask you jamie to. look that up that'd be a good one to. look up because i'll tell you what and. because. that's real if that's real that's crazy.

67 but if it's not real that might be. just as crazy shows how crazy people are. that would make something like that up. that's almost more interesting what i. really think i don't wish yeah but i. wish it wasn't true now because then. it's even more fascinating that someone. would make something like it would make. you [ __ ] weird. where'd you think of that dude i went. for like forever for a long time um. believing that the sky was filled with. these flying worms. this is how stupid i am kristen listen. to me wait you're just helping me out. this is how dumb i am.

i was. getting baked. with my friend eddie eddie bravo and we. would watch these documentaries on these. things called rods this is one of the. dumbest things i've ever done and i mean. i spent many hours watching these things. like this is incredible you can only. capture them with high with high speed. cameras. that's not true at all. what it really is is when you have a. camera that's filming like unless it's a. super high-speed camera when a bug flies. across it it shows like a trail.

it doesn't just show a bug like that's. moving across the stream but when they. have like a 4k. camera like one of those like high. definition cameras then you see it's. just a bug so this show called i think. it was monster hunter they they showed. it on tv i'm like god damn it i'm so. dumb there's worms everywhere i believe. that there's flying worms in the sky. like there's a video of these guys. jumping into a cave they're parachuting. down into a cave in mexico and as. they're doing it these things fly by. these things fly under them and it looks. so real.

like if you're dumb like me and you. don't understand exposures and cameras. see if you can find that because it's so. stupid dude for [ __ ] years i believe. this geez at least a solid two years i i. thought this was real i watched hours of. those documentaries i just looked back. at my memory and what was something that. i believed that was just totally off the. that's the dumbest one that's the. dumbest one of things i believed i think. the bigfoot won i believe bigfoot for a. long time but i think bigfoot used to be. real that's what i think. i think there's too many native american. words.

too many native american words for that. animal but there's also south american. words and these words and you know. there's also a real animal that existed. with humans it's called a. gigantopithecus and it was a um like in. the orangutan family and it was. somewhere around eight feet ten feet. tall huge there's a photo of uh what it. would look like because it was a bipedal. hominid yeah it was it was a standing. upright ape that might have been 10 feet. tall and there's a picture of it like. what it would look like if it was like a.

modern human was standing there next to. this thing it's [ __ ] crazy so why did. the smithsonian destroy all of those. huge skulls the giant skulls and all the. giant bones what all of the 15 foot 20. foot tall humans are good crazy so. twenty two. ten fifteen twenty foot tall humans in. the smith. destroyed. all the skulls not a skeleton are you. sure they just wear them yeah well let's. see gigantopithecus first i'm going to. show you this first because it's so. crazy just show me an image about four.

things back i know i'm sorry. and then i got the water thing but okay. you did fine to go to the water thing. first that's cool because it's like it's. jumping around it's making shapes we'll. go to the water thing and then we're. going to come back to bigfoot and we're. going to. top it off with what was the last one. i tried to look that up pretty quick. it's pretty tough is it tough why uh. breaking it i couldn't find any sort of. science about it any scientific things. so then i went to the wikipedia of the. guy who made the claims. and.

in this 2003 james randy published an. invitation to him offering him to take. the one million dollar paranormal. challenge in which he could have. received a million dollars if he could. reproduce the experiment. under test conditions and he did not. receive a response oh that was the water. stuff yeah okay so water stuff it's. showing like uh snow you know like. crystals when they turn the snow and. then a bunch of other weird pictures and. it's just showing pictures there's no. like science on how to reproduce what. about james randy guy. look at what if you look at frequency. effects on water.

that's because the frequency. frequency effects on water that's way. different than what this was claiming is. that you have to like leave water in a. jar for 30 days and like talk to it. that's different. too that i was looking at. because the frequencies really lined it. up and made it is there any science on. talking to plants. i think there is that's different too is. it i mean yeah but i'm just kind of like. well think about church did you go to. church as a kid not that much but i. stopped when i was like seven so i grew.

up in a very church. atmosphere jerry falwell we went to that. school and in church with jerry falwell. and adrian rogers in memphis tennessee. so we went to the big mega churches we. were like deep deep baptist evangelical. christians damn so i yeah i got. indoctrinated really. for a long time so if you start throwing. bible verses at me i can throw it down. yeah wow i can throw it down bible quick. so what uh branch of uh christianity. davidian. no it's cancer. there was a evangelical christian for.

instance like there is some very strange. water experiments you can do with. frequencies oh wow you can set it down. on. plates and make some really cool stuff. too it all shapes look at that so the. electricity running into the water makes. it do that sound really it's not even. like a sign. sound vibrations like it's. this is the spout the spout is connected. to a speaker the speaker is being. controlled by an oscillation. but if you do all the hurts you can see. it oh my god this is incredible what is.

the uh. there are this is just one experiment. for this there's a lot of other really. really cool ones there's the ones that. run through all the frequencies and you. have these uh the balance frequencies. which is. i'm messing up the frequencies right now. i can't remember tvi i just blame it on. tbi. let me smoke another joint. the uh. it changes shapes so it goes into like. this uh. hexagram and all these different shapes.

yeah different frequencies so if you. change a frequency the patterns change. right and so if it can do that and. that's why i was talking about prayer. and churches and singing there was a. time when a lot of humanity would get. together at least once a week and they. would sing together and they would pray. together and no matter who you're. praying to god or yahweh or the creator. or the maker whoever you want to pray to. if everybody's on the same frequency. everybody's on the same. energy and they're giving you all this. energy how could that be bad.

look at this thing yeah this is some. weird [ __ ] so the ultrasonic waves are. causing these objects to levitate so. they're levitating in the ultrasonic. waves is that ice i don't know because i. don't even think it says exactly what. they're floating there it's probably. just a piece of maybe like rice or a. piece of paper or something holy [ __ ]. but i've all people speculate this is. maybe how the the pyramids might have. been made because of the frequencies. that people think they make or could. have made you know back when they.

existed in the way they did in their. original form. and if you think about all of them i. don't know how. this is part of like. some bangkok stuff and eddie griffin. said outside the comedy store once high. as [ __ ] smoking cigarettes killing. pyramids were made with sound. yeah there's a frequency i remember one. of someone's talked about there's a hum. in there or there's a specific frequency. and one of the pyramids i don't remember. ah well there's some something certainly. to like the shape of the stone and the. fact that it's all gonna echo like crazy.

and there's that one pyramid in south. america you can yell at it and it gives. you a bird sound back yeah yeah yeah. yeah yeah there's something going on. it's weird i wonder. that sound have you ever seen that jamie. where the guy stands down the bottom of. uh i think it's in chichen itza and he. makes some noise what did he do did he. yell i think you can make clap you can. make any noise loud noise that it comes. back as a bird it sounds weird it's. pretty cool and that's like the temple. of quetzalcoatl i think too i might have. made that up but that's like their bird.

sounded good they're crazy uh bird god. is it in chichen itza uh chicha needs to. echo clap what if you do they do this. [Laughter]. isn't that if you saw how big this. pyramid is and how far away this guy is. from it you would realize how crazy that. is if you're listening to this just. listening to this this is a simple. actually it's very simple to explain. when you clap in front. of uh. i mean of. a slope the sound will go to to the top.

in this case a pyramid. and if it's there a cavity or a. tempo like in this case the echo. will come back to you. if you clap in front of an egyptian. permit. nothing happens. because the sound goes away but here. sound if they did that on purpose. imagine they figured that out on purpose. imagine if they designed that if they.

designed that we need to figure out what. the [ __ ] went wrong like what happened. something happened there what is it the. driest. yeah younger driving. theory yeah nobody talks about that why. don't we ever talk about the fact that. we were very advanced human beings doing. amazing things the pyramids and doing. this and floating rocks and doing space. stuff maybe back in those days and then. it all was destroyed now we're. rebuilding why can't we accept that fact. well. you know. i think it's. civilization has these uh.

rises and falls and we always want to. believe that we're in the middle of. rising that we're at the highest level. that people have ever been because we're. way higher than anybody that we know of. and when we look back a thousand years. from now yeah we're way more advanced. than them. but when you take into account the. younger driest impact theory you've got. to get it gets real confusing because. you start going well okay. if that did happen like how smart people. were people 12 000 years ago if if the. us.

was really covered half of it was. covered in a mile high sheet of ice. and. people were creating these insane. structures yeah like in saint whether. it's the pyramids of egypt or i mean i. don't know uh what year machu picchu was. made but a lot of people dated back a. long time ago as well i mean uh in that. is machu picchu from that era like when. do they think machu picchu was. constructed. but it's another one of those things it. just doesn't make it doesn't make any. sense it's so amazing none of it makes.

sense like how did you get these stones. here they're so big and it's so perfect. and beautiful and the way they contoured. the stones. to fit into these slots it's incredible. we still can 1450 really that seems. wrong there's no way oh that might be. just one of those things there's this. one of those things where like. archaeologists they'll date a thing. and you know you can't really date stone. so they date whether it's uh biological. material they have to find like a piece. of wood or something something that they.

can do a carbon dating something on you. can't date stones so they're probably. just kind of guessing they might be off. and the thing is like that becomes. doctrine with a lot of people like the. you know they found that thing uh. gobekli tepe and that threw a monkey. wrench into everything because for sure. that's 12 000 years old. for sure so that means somebody covered. it up intentionally 12 000 years ago. that means they could build this stuff. 12 000 years ago like how. how did they how are they able to make. these immense stone columns when we.

think that these people are supposed to. be fake. occupied with 1450. that's what it's just giving me the. answer for when i that makes sense that. makes sense. that makes more sense like people kept. using it yeah but when did they actually. make it that's i mean when when you get. to. you know when you get to looking at. stuff like like the great pyramid of. egypt and you know they placed that. somewhere around uh 2500 bc maybe. they're right. but. there's so much [ __ ] there that's below.

that there's so much stuff that they. find like these old kingdom structures. that are under the ground there's all. these enterprise systems under the. pyramids how about all the stuff they're. finding in the amazon they're finding. all these like ancient civilizations the. amazon that could have been immense and. had you know who knows how many [ __ ]. people living in these really complex. grids like that was all cities it's. crazy. so i've been buying old encyclopedias. so i'm trying to find like i have an. encyclopedia from 1910. i have another book of uh it's a single.

book and it's like the world knowledge. book or something and that's from 1890. something but i'm trying to get all. these really old books because you gotta. figure that all of history everything. that's written down is written by the. victors. as what happens to everything else and. so if you're looking pre-world war one. for the data and i think if you want to. know anything for sure you have to go. before world war one really because i. think everything was changed but the. victors were rewriting stuff as we speak. right now their stuff being adjusted.

they're taking words out of the. dictionary and they're changing stuff. and they're. saying that this is wrong and they're. constantly correcting historical. documents the encyclopedia today is not. going to be the same as my 1910. encyclopedia what do you think they're. omitting i think they're trying to cover. stuff up like what kind of stuff i i. really believe that like if you start. looking at rockefeller and a lot of the. really big you know rich moguls from. back in those days. they change the schools they change. universities change how we think they. change how we educate they started.

changing the entire medical you know. system from all this really good. homeopathic really cool stuff to all. this pharmaceutical stuff based on oil. i just think there's so much things. going on in those days when they had a. chance to do it. that now we are brainwashed to think. that. all of these natural herbs and all this. stuff doesn't do anything for us it's. the only thing it can help is if you. take this aspirin you don't think it can. help if you take this one vaccine it. says no there's all this other stuff. that's been going on for thousands of. years but they're covering it up they're.

erasing those parts of history and. saying that this is the way you do it so. i just want to look at it i want to look. at what they had back in the early 19th. or 1800s. compared to what's here okay but if you. compare them when it comes to medical. science there's no comparison to what. they know today. they. they've done so many studies there's. been so much data for sure it's. corrupted somewhat by the pharmaceutical. industry for sure yeah for short testing. is someone corrupt they've been busted.

doing stuff before they've had to pay. massive fines for sure but also for sure. our understanding of how to heal people. is better than it's ever been oh yeah. yeah so like that's what one of the. things that i when people want to talk. about like using herbs to cure diseases. i'm like whoa. medicine's pretty [ __ ] good too yeah. like. it's like you can't throw the baby out. with the bath water but why can't we do. both yeah we should be why can't we look. at all these herbs and saying if i take. this willow bark and i scrape this down. and i do this and it's gonna be there's.

aspen trees there's there's all these. different trees and all these different. herbs that have really good benefits. what what do you get out of they got rid. of a tree. i thought the aspen tree was the bark. and that's how they used to use it for. headaches and stuff it's willow tree. right now. is that all you have to do to get. aspirin. it's the barcode tree to eat this. [ __ ] ass bark you just swallow a. couple of berries six months ago i. stopped using toothpaste. i don't use any toothpaste what do you. wash your teeth with well i just do. brush to get stuff out but basically my.

mouth bacteria is at a point right now. just like your stomach all those. bacteria is good bacteria and bad. bacteria yeah so the good stuff is built. up good enough right now that i have. zero odor zero nothing i don't have to. worry about anything in there really. yeah so you think we've been [ __ ]. ourselves over with toothpaste i think a. lot of pharmaceuticals a lot of stuff. out there isn't always the right stuff. for us it is a common misconception that. aspirin is found in the bark of the. willow tree a related compound called. salicin.

does indeed occur in the willow bark. thereby explaining the use of the bark. as a medication since the name. since the time of hippocrates okay so it. works like it's just a different thing. that works like actually it's not. acetylsolidoxylic acid well. look at you it's more aspirin. yeah it's um what is this yeah so that's. giganopithecus nice that was a real. thing so that was a real animal and the. way they found out about this is. interesting there was a guy i think it. was an anthropologist was in an. apothecary shop in china.

in like the 1930s i think somewhere like. early in the 20th century and. he found this tooth and he's like what. is this there's a giant primate tube. that's cool and he was looking at he was. like this is this is wrong like where. the [ __ ] did you find this and they they. took him to wherever it was and he found. more so he found jaw bones and that's. cool the position of the jaw uh. is one of a hominid uh that is bipedal. so it's like the position of the jaw is.

supposedly one that's a stand-up gorilla. yeah this big-ass hairy looking thing. that you saw in that first picture. apparently that was a real thing. and it lived alongside people like there. was a thing walking around like that in. the jungle that's pretty cool it's. [ __ ] crazy can you look up. 1800s uh. giant skeletons oh yeah yeah yeah the. smithsonian killed the giants yeah. because it would be the same thing as. this here's the claim but these are all.

giant human skeletons were found by the. thousands and destroyed by the. smithsonian an old hoax has resurfaced. in an instagram meme claiming that giant. skeletons were found but were destroyed. because having to explain the existence. of these skeletons contradicted the the. evolution of mankind and creation end. quote. uh the july 25th post by the user. conspiracy theories which is that's. probably a russian anyway which is. gained over 54 that's probably a russian. hoax 54 700 likes reads giant skeletons.

were found by the thousands but most. were destroyed or thrown in the ocean by. the smithsonian and vatican. okay can you do the newspaper articles. because it shows in the newspapers. throughout the entire 1800s and in the. 1900s in the united states. there are almost every week a farmer was. digging off a giant skeleton but did. they take pictures of these things yeah. there's photos just photos yeah so that. right there there's probably a lot of. hoax that the smithsonian didn't destroy. thousands they only destroyed a few.

hundred. i don't know or but the smithsonian was. just the thing is like people were. always full of [ __ ] some of the bones. they were shown were dinosaur bones i. did read that in the article it said. that they were just showing pictures of. people finding dinosaur bones and saying. they were giants there's a whole bunch. of old. early 1900s 1800s newspaper articles. where they were printing them in the. austin gazette yeah some farmer just. down the road dug up a skeleton and they. went down there and took pictures and. put it into the austin gazette did they.

just. know. that it was a dinosaur. maybe they thought it was a person it. was like a woolly mammoth or something. they're full human skeleton really they. just took pictures is there any photos. of these full human skeletons i don't. know i'm super skeptical and in the. newspapers super skeptical. super saiyan's. giant chewing skeletons take some data. from writing. i found something but let's see what it. is uh there's a picture. giants virginia.

that does not look real we don't know. how tall that other dude is either. that's me standing next to shaq. okay what does it say i don't know i'm. trying to read through quickly but um. i'm just looking for newspapers could be. look if you guys do it just the pictures. of the newspapers going into why would. the smithsonian destroy it though well. they had a whole bunch of them and it. did admit to destroying a lot of. skeletons. and it's it's another newspaper article. that i found. where the smithsonian is actually.

uh apologizing for destroying those. skeletons. really yeah yeah the smithsonian. apologized for digital. articles that they destroyed a bunch of. skeletons or a bunch of them got sent. off somewhere or died in a fire they. said something happened. i said hey we're sorry. imagine if you went over bill gates. house he takes you into a secret room. he's got giant skeletons he's got all of. them what the [ __ ] dude this is real. dinosaurs were actually dragons. imagine that. yeah imagine if dragons were i mean you.

think about why. are there so many depictions of a. similar creature. throughout all these different cultures. like that was that matthew mcconaughey. movie do you remember that movie. there was a movie where it turns out. they were digging into the ground for. something like oil or some [ __ ] and they. tapped into dragons yeah and the dragons. were here it is giant skeletons found. cave in mexico gives up the bones of an. ancient race. okay it says charles c clapp who has.

recently returned from mexico where he. has been in charge of thomas w lawson's. mini pig. so bad resolution mining interests and. is called the attention of professor. agazis. how do you say that i don't know i guess. i guess uh to. to a remarkable discovery made by him he. found in mexico a cave containing some. 200 skeletons of men each above eight. feet in height the cave was evidently.

the burial place of a race of giants who. annotated antidated i don't know what. that means predated oh wow i've never. heard that word antedated the aztecs mr. clapp arranged the bones of one of these. skeletons and found the total length to. be eight foot 11 inches the femur. reached up to his thigh and the molars. were big enough to crack a coconut the. head measured 18 inches from front to. back and this is like what years is the.

new york times 1908 wow so there's a ton. of newspaper articles from all around. the country all these little tiny. gazettes. i just it's just. a couple of them look at that giant. skeletons found los angeles strange. skeletons found madison wisconsin. georgia you're going to find it all over. the whole country and all around the. world so but why would they hide that i. don't know. that's the thing that really boggles my. mind it's like why are 18 feet tall look. at that one. texas austin texas austin they're.

tripping on peyote men. if the report of the fossilized skeleton. of a giant 18 feet tall has been found. near seymour texas is true it is the. most important ethnological discovery. ever made in the world remark dr j e. pierce professor of anthropology at the. university of texas i bet he probably. said that with the most mocking tone. ever. [Laughter]. do you understand that it would be the. most.

important ethnological discovery ever. made in the world look how big he was. here's the question for all this so this. is a newspaper article from austin texas. austin texas newspaper article from way. back in the old days. yeah why would they print that. why would they print that and it's all. over the country there's newspaper. articles just like this all around the. entire country of farmers digging up. phones that's a good question look at. this this is a 12 foot tall guy well it. could be that it was real. or it could be that it became a myth.

that just gets repurposed and like a lot. of things like the mothman or a lot of. these things like people believe they're. seeing you hear about it and then you. claim you see it yeah and then it goes. on and on and on. want to watch a video of a giant a real. giant a real giant how big is he. probably 15 16 feet tall what look how a. japanese. uh parade giant. if you do those three words is it an. actual giant humor it's a japanese film.

from. before world war ii and he's 15 feet. tall he's got 12 or 15 feet tall if you. look at the video that's a video it's a. live video you see the dude walking. around just a huge guy. imagine if they were just they just died. off it was too hard to get food or. imagine if we went to war with them how. would we win. technology really what kind of if we had. when the giants were fighting like third.

third generation warfare and the giants. are still stuck in first generation. warfare well here's the thing if that. younger drug. what. is that real i don't know. what i don't no so that's not real that. is so not real that's so cgi you back up. that's a fake video if you back up and. watch watch the guy walk look how he's. standing. that's not real look at his neck and. everything. hey it looks it's weird yeah it looks. like uh horseshit.

yes i would love to doesn't it this. looks like someone. was practicing making this yeah it looks. like someone's put like a cgi even the. way the thing's moving it's like it's so. rigid oh yeah yeah this is fake. it took some old footage and added some. stuff to it yeah that's what they did. they spliced that in there. i want to see like a full analysis. though because this is one of their. videos that's been around next time you. have a question like this you bring it. to us. you can't be running around believing.

this [ __ ]. okay so i gotta give off that one. so there's no giant i think there's no. giants i think uh the bigfoot one is. probably. if we go back to that younger driest. impact theory. that apparently they think that could be. what was the cause of mass extinction of. like an enormous number of the megafauna. on north america in particular it all. happened around that time period and. they think if that was a real animal. and it existed at one point in time and.

co it coexisted with people yeah it. could have died off just like the. mammoth did a lot of other animals did. during that time period saber-toothed. tigers they all died off around then. yeah yeah they don't know why those. things all died off like there's a bunch. of different theories but one of them is. that younger giants impact theory yes. it's a very good one. because we know things get hit by. asteroids it's not outside of the realm. of possibility we know it happens all. the time and they actually have that. speaking of like like patterns of you. know astrology yeah. astronomy rather they know where when.

earth passes through this area where. there's a lot of comments yeah and it. coincides with the younger dry's impact. theory they think it happened a couple. of times not just once yeah it's. probably like a couple thousand years. apart or two they think it probably. happened somewhere around 12 and i think. they think it might have happened again. around 10 000 years ago. and every time that happened i guarantee. you. it was. if that if there's enough of that. nuclear glass that they find and enough.

uh iridium which exists when they do the. core samples and they get to that time. there's enough to indicate impacts. something happens and any impact is. going to leave a lot of iridium and of. course it was probably a [ __ ] doozy. it's a huge one doozies you gotta wonder. like how smart were they before that. like how did they make the pyramids how. did it's like they left behind. such undeniable achievements so you you. can't dismiss it you can't dismiss the. possibility that they might have had a. civilization even more advanced than we.

are today than we are which is so weird. because we don't want to believe that we. want to believe there's no way people 5. 000 years ago were [ __ ] smarter than. us no way but i mean i do believe it. maybe they [ __ ] work man maybe they. figured something out and i wonder what. what that it would be. like what could make them. able to do something like the pyramid. like the great pyramid of giza 2 million. 300 000 stones some of them from a. quarry that was hundreds of miles away. like they put together something that's.

so nuts. that even thousands and thousands of. years later you walk by you go what the. [ __ ] how did i do that how did you do. this yeah how did you do it so good too. there's stuff like that all over the. earth all over you walk up to it you go. how did it do yes thousands of years ago. the acropolis and the parthenon like the. parthenon that is the bottom one right. isn't that the bottom one the acropolis. the building it sits on the parts. so they they just say that that was. already there like the parthenon the. part that it's built on you ever see how.

[ __ ] big those stones are freaking. huge and it was just there so when the. greeks built the acropolis that [ __ ] was. already there they built it on top and. everything's all square it's all perfect. it's so big. go to the the giant stones of the. parthenon just google that because. they're so big you just go wait wait. wait wait wait what year was this. when did they do this they did it with. horses and wagons where did you get the. rock what the [ __ ] is going on here it's. so big and they literally give no.

explanation as to how it was made. like see if you can. see. um is there any images that show. like the sides of it. where you can get a ch that is huge. there's some some images that show the. yeah okay that's a good one. like what is that. look how big those rocks are. like what did you do. how did you do that. who did that hercules went like oh. there's a good example there's a good.

example like are you out of your [ __ ]. mind like what is that. is that a spaceship launch pad. i mean look at the size of those stones. imagine if that's what it was it's like. at one point in time it's cool. pretty [ __ ] cool. what are your thoughts on aliens. do you think they're watching us i think. they'll step in aliens i don't i don't. think they're from like space i think. they're from the ocean really yeah well.

there's definitely been some of those. called trans medium crafts that have. been observed yeah i'm friends with. jeremy corbell and he's a uh he makes. these documentaries on on ufos and he. did this amazing one on bob lazar. and uh they they send him footage. because they know that he's like the. main ufo guy and he'll study it and. understand and he releases it and tells. people you know where it came from and. that's cool but i'm always like how do. you know that someone's not [ __ ] with. you yeah there's something going on but.

the ocean i just yeah there's something. going on man that's so deep a lot of. people have seen things come out of the. ocean a lot of people have including. that tic tac um. that experience that commander david. fraver had that was off the coast of uh. san diego in 2004 did you ever hear. about the story i didn't hear that one. commander david fravor is uh. he's a naval pilot rock solid just. like. just. everything about him like you. you believe of every word out of his.

mouth never had an outrageous day in his. life that you know was like like this. yeah and then one day he has this thing. that they see that's hovering over. something that's in the ocean so. something is in the ocean below the. surface whether it's like it looks like. the size of an aircraft carrier or. something and there's something above it. that is this. thing that's shaped like a tic tac and i. think they said it was like. how big was that thing it's like 20 feet. long. so it wasn't that big wasn't that big. whatever this thing is.

they tracked it on radar going from. 50 000 feet above sea level to 50 in. less than a second. they don't know what happened. they tracked it with um they got video. of this thing. and they they had. eye contact by two different jets that. saw this thing and they were. communicating about it and they were. discussing it and he's talked about it. that's cool and then whatever that thing. was. jammed their radar or actively jammed. their tracking.

which is technically supposedly an act. of war that's what they say and then it. immediately vanished at this insane rate. of speed and went directly to their cat. point. so it knew where they were supposed to. go later in their journey yeah that's. cool i get new damn which is [ __ ]. nuts and they're like it's bad they're. in the the people that were tracking it. and the ship said hey we found it again. it's at your cat point and they're like. what the [ __ ]. i want to watch that and there's a video. of the thing taking off they don't know. what it is though like what is that is.

that a drone is that from another planet. is that something we have is our are we. but your open mind would have to look at. it and wonder what is that i wanted to. you don't automatically shut down and go. that's just fake or whatever no but i. want it to be an alien that's the. problem the reason why i'm so critical. about these things is because i want. them to be real if they came from under. the ocean wouldn't they still be aliens. not good enough. it has to be like out there somewhere. no it would be cool they're figuring it. would definitely be cool but there's. levels of cool so like uh there's.

aquaman level cool pretty [ __ ] cool. but then there's a silver surfer cool. cooler than our server is definitely. cool silver surfer is cooler than. aquaman no disrespect i'm a big jason. momoa fan i think he was the best conan. ever but it was pretty. just the movie wasn't the best but he. was the best conan he was the most. believable conan he could definitely. come yeah because that's what a guy like. conan would look like it wouldn't look. like arnold schwarzenegger's two jacks. and he wouldn't have that weird accent. yeah it's all shaved down and you know. oiled up like he's about to pose. but uh mamoa was like the most.

believable but. something coming from space is better. than something coming from the ocean. yeah. i don't know i think if it came from the. ocean it would be like they've been here. the whole time do you remember that. movie the ability we just won't look. that's a good movie that was a movie. where they came from the shields they're. such jerks so yeah that was why they do. that i don't know they always make the. seals that are all getting shot for. those marines down in that one of the. hall so i was talking to uh one of the. guys that was in that movie seal team. guy. who was it it was uh. shoot i don't remember but he was.

talking about that he says what do you. think about you know this scene and it. was the producer director talking to the. seal team guys well. it's just total [ __ ] we wouldn't be. going through just sewer and coming up. through here we wouldn't be doing that. when we do that yeah but it's for the. movie you have to do it he says yeah we. wouldn't do that he said yeah but it's. in the script you have to do it yeah but. we think this is [ __ ] all the seals. are fist that they had to do such bad. tactics. yeah it's why wouldn't they want it to. be accurate i don't get it like why. would that make it a worse movie they. always make the movie screw it up like.

that though. but isn't that's like. if you were if you're bringing seals on. and you're gonna talk to them and. there's like a sealed thing in the movie. why how arrogant are they to like. disrespect the seals by coming up with. shitty tactics that you would never do. you know what i mean but we do screw up. sometimes though we do some bad tactics. once in a while. i definitely had my mistakes in the seal. teams. i just think that if you're gonna depict. something in a film.

you don't have to lie about what the. thing is to make your story work yeah. the story's good already yeah right the. abyss is you got aliens in the [ __ ]. ocean. you know and you can have like a bad. seal you know but like you can't have. like bad tactics yeah they can't you. know they can't totally go on bonkers. right. it's like you can't. you can't just like fake what a thing is. because it makes your movie better. that's stupid it seems like that's all i. do though that's a big thing well the. arrogance of hollywood the arrogance of.

being able to do that i always talk. about the mark schultz movie you know. that movie um. uh about that man who uh killed uh david. schultz the um. dupont john du pont you know that's why. yeah yeah the uh the wrestling movie. exactly that was with uh channing tatum. exactly yeah um fox ketchup and ruffalo. yeah and mark mark ruffalo was awesome. now yeah he was he's great never so was. ch i mean chan was good too he had it. that he was intense but it's a really. well done movie in that movie the dark. movie though it's a dark movie but.

apparently i don't think it was that. accurate i think there's a lot that they. took license with as well and one of the. reasons why i say this is because. there's a fight at the end of it mark. schultz. uh who is the brother. he had a fight one fight in the ufc and. he fought against this guy named big. dary. big gad. jesus christ big daddy goodrich gary. goodrich yeah sorry my tongue let me sit. there. sorry about that folks. but anyway um gary goodridge is a.

legendary fighter he's fought in the ufc. multiple times gary goodrich um. he has one of the most ferocious. knockouts in the history of the sport. against this guy paul herrera paul. herrera takes him down and he gets him. like a fireman's carry and gary locks. him up in a crucifix crucifix and blasts. him with elbows. it is a horrendous ko because he hits. him like four or five times while he's. completely unconscious and gary is a. giant man just just super jacked so gary.

fought mark schultz in the ufc it's not. like another guy like you just oh some. random guy no it's [ __ ] gary goodrich. he's a legend that's huge so mark. schultz fought gary goodridge in real. life but in the movie he fights some. russian guy. like completely fake guy it didn't make. any sense like why would they do that. the historical accuracy was better than. a fake but it's it's like you're faking. something that i know. happened i watched it yeah like you're.

pretending. you you wrote a whole new thing that. doesn't make sense it doesn't make any. sense. it so if you do that how am i supposed. to trust you about all the other [ __ ] in. that movie nothing yeah yeah yeah you're. just making stuff up to make your movie. good and how messed up was dupont geez. oh my god but he was messed up in real. life though real life yeah yeah it. reminds me of like dupont the. rockefellers the uh over across the. water you know the. all those bankers all those guys in. those days yeah that's that group i'm.

talking about it's like they had so much. power and so much money and so much. influence back when our country was. still pretty young you know between. world war one of world war ii we're a. young country we're barely alive you. know it's also like what we were talking. about earlier about killing jesters yeah. you know like that guy worked for him. right yeah and he just decided to kill. that guy it's like that kind of god it's. exactly like it that's his entertainment. yeah it's that kind of ben shapiro has a. video where he's going over.

these people at davos these uh you want. some coffee thanks man. sorry about that no worries uh ben. shapiro. so in this video cheers cheers great. talking man. it's been a fun time. so we've been cheering we haven't even. talked about the fun stuff yet yeah. there's a lot of fun stuff talking. in ben shapiro's video he's talking. about how there are certain people. um that really do believe that because. they're wealthy they know better and. they want to just assume control over.

things and make things work easier they. really think of themselves as elites. it's not um. it's not they don't think of it as like. elites like uh uh i went to yale i went. to harvard no i'm better than you. that's what their version of elite is. and it's a. it is an interesting phenomenon that. human beings seem to. acquire. when they get a lot of power power they. just they feel like they should be able. to dictate how people do things.

it's like it's a weird natural position. almost right. it's 100 natural i think that's one of. the problems we have with military. people when we retire. because we're so used to that chain of. command we're so used to the authority. being vested within my rank so when i. retired as a senior chief. and i found i was doing this even after. i retired a lot. was that because i was a senior chief. because i was like a chief of platoon. you know or chief of a task unit so i. had these 30 people under me and i was. working with him and doing combat and. all this other stuff everything was very.

critical everything was very time. sensitive and you had to do it right. when i retired. you keep your rank with you and i think. everybody does it to a certain extent. and so because we had that power because. we had authority and all that stuff. within our rank within our expertise as. a seal. it doesn't count in a civilian world. and so when i'm speaking to people. sometimes i would make that mistake i. would start treat i would start becoming. that chief again and i started talking. to him as i was a chief telling them. what to do rather than working out a way.

to do it. you know what i mean i do know what you. mean i think that transition from. military to civilian is a really tough. one because we we can't get rid of that. attitude that we know better because i. was a chief right i don't always know. better and that was the same reason why. i'm so open about the fact that i have. all these accounts i have all the stuff. i want to get the data i want to read. all of these giants i want to read about. the younger driest i want to read about. i want to read about religions and. multiple religions buddhas from taoism. islam i want to i want to i want as much.

dad as i can yeah so that i can make the. right decision also you want to know how. other people think too right yeah. harvest that because we're a weird. species [ __ ] yeah so weird. messed up some people think so different. than you yeah and and they're [ __ ]. adamant about it like when you watch pro. lifers and pro-choice people scream at. each other like wow. like that that's one of the best. examples of how differently people think. whether it's because of ideology or. religion or what what causes you to be.

so. so rock solid and rigid in your. principles whether you're right or wrong. it's it's a it's a strange thing when. they collide with someone who is. diametrically opposed to you but equally. passionate that they're right yeah and. you watch people scream at each other. like whoa we're so strange yeah such a. weird species and they're gonna fight. about that then they made it political. the whole that per choice her life all. the other stuff is so politicized. everything but it's one of those things. where you you clearly know by someone's.

choice yeah whether or not they're on. this side or that side. if someone says i'm pro-life oh that's a. republican it's a real bubble again yeah. yeah. it's it's weird and and there's also. things like climate change like people. that are like political they believe so. much that we're [ __ ] those people are. almost all democrats yeah the people. that think everything's gonna be okay. and that we'll figure it out and it's a. you know. it's not nearly as bad as everyone's. saying those are all republicans but if. you talk to all those climate change. people and you ask them about the. younger dries are you asking about.

history historical times that we've had. this earth. in the ice ages or being bombarded by. whatever. we've gone through this before it's just. that's what i think climate change we. have but it is different we definitely. are [ __ ] it up we 100 are. contributing we're 100. emitting too much carbon and. particulates and. coal power plants make all the cities. around them [ __ ] like we we watched. this video of this uh coal powered uh. area of uh was it indiana.

was it indiana and uh this one area has. a bunch of coal plants around it and you. have like there's [ __ ] dust oh yeah. in people's cars it's nasty there's cold. dust so it's in the air so you're. breathing cold dust so all these people. have all these problems and health. problems it's like get the [ __ ] out of. that move the [ __ ] and we've got to stop. doing that whatever you do that this is. there's got to be a better way than this. you have to stop doing it we have to try. to clean up but you can't clean up at. the detriment to the. but people one is [ __ ] because the.

people are actually being poisoned by. the [ __ ] air which they need. to get a chance to choose yeah local. area but then everyone's geared nuclear. but nuclear seems to be one of the only. ways where you can. generally assume that unless there's a. meltdown yeah you're going to get some. pretty solid power out of that and it's. not nearly as environmentally impactful. until it's really important until it. until it goes. really bad when i was working on the. iron man project it's uh the iron man. project.

it was the iron man project. so we're trying to build to suit. really we've been working on it for a. long time i didn't know i was on the. beginning of project it was called. carnivore at first and a few other names. but in the beginning there was only a. small handful of us working what are. they using to make the body suit out of. it's it's changed so much right now that. it's. all kind of materials i mean titanium. carbon fiber all the top stuff and is it. supposed to be able to fly. it's going to do a lot of stuff does it. have an exoskeleton oh it's stronger.

oh yeah yeah and it's much stronger you. can carry you know a thousand pounds. yeah a lot you know i've seen that stuff. that stuff's wild we're getting there. but if you think about that kind of a. suit that exoskeleton. how are you going to move that. exoskeleton those people so if you had a. if you had a squad let's just say you. had 12 dudes and those exoskeletons what. airplane are you going to use. what homves what vehicles how you going. to get these guys around what boats you. change it changes everything right. thousand pounds yeah you're huge so you. can only get like a couple of those on a.

plane. yeah maybe four i don't know but that's. but that's one of the issues that we're. running into is the fact that if we. start going in this direction we start. going to exoskeletons we have to change. everything else that makes sense and. when we were doing it it was like the. long pole in the tent for the you know. and i was on these think tanks and i was. always like the innovators see i was a. weird seal you already know that i guess. well i guess. that would get to that part i was a. techie fart so i was very technical and. i was working a lot of the uh national. laboratories so all the places that we.

built the you know manhattan project we. still have all those facilities all. around and so we still use them we work. with them and we try to push the. envelope for military and civilian use. so there's a lot of things that i was. part you know innovator inventor of. stuff that's gone to the civilian world. and uh. the iron man project was really cool and. what are they powering it with that's. the problem was that i'm pulling a tent. i kept talking to him and i was working. with all the national labs pacific. northwest and all those guys. and uh.

nuclear battery was pretty much the only. way you can go so it would be that it'd. be a little battery about that big bro. we've already got a cell phone in my. pocket but we've had those little. nuclear batteries since the 50s so it's. not a big deal but those nuclear. batteries like how dangerous it for a. human being to be around it. how dangerous is davina military. that's true too we jump out of airplanes. at 30 000 feet but if you i don't feel. like if you wore that thing around you. got horrible bone cancer because of it. yeah you got.

lead shielding a bunch of other. shielding yeah but the thing is there's. so much power and so much everything. else we were using the uh hypersonic. flywheels and using all this other stuff. we're trying to do energy storage in all. kinds of different ways is there a way. to shield it so that a person can be in. direct contact and not receive you. carried around in a suitcase really yeah. yeah. jesus christ. yeah there's a couple of them isn't it. funny like that's the one of the things. that we're scared of the most i have to. be careful with some of the stuff i say.

i'm like are you constantly going are. you saying stuff that you're not you. could not edit it out you're saying no. there's clouds iron man is not. classified anymore they've talked about. i think it's in popular mechanics now. so but i think some of the people that. worked on it are still classified and. some of the stuff they're doing now is. probably classified so this is all dat. all data is that a situation where. as new technology comes out then they. revise it yeah until they so they're. always working on it but it's not always. working on it so it's it's it's usable. some of the pieces like right now i mean.

my back is just toast like all the seal. team guys because we carry those large. rucksacks and constantly out there jump. you know free falling jump and parachute. and all that stuff our backs are just. toast. so what they're trying to do is trying. to get it just first is like load. carrying and so they made it try and. that was one of my biggest pushes in the. beginning of iron man was i said we need. to build everything. as. non-energy consumption everything has to. be. you know pneumatic or springs or somehow. using our body. to propel everything because if this.

whole thing shuts down the battery turns. off you have to still be able to move a. little bit at least be able to get over. from here to cover over there so you. don't get you still have to be able to. move it so it's a thousand pounds how do. you move that thing right there's no. power how would you is that possible. like where the direction they went in. was the direction i didn't want to go. was you can't now you can't it's you're. gonna be stuck so the power goes off. you're frozen you're just yeah you're. almost. it's big imagine if you were in the. middle of some sort of an operation and. there was a solar flare yeah and the.

solar flare nukes all the electricity or. something yeah. yeah yeah. [ __ ] jesus christ that's that's where. we're 1000 pounds i mean how the [ __ ]. could you move it. how could you if you're stuck in a. thousand-pound robot. you're done that's what it looks like. right now yeah so these things are still. tethered a lot of those okay so that is. um yes the exoskeleton goes down his. legs and that's those things on his legs. yeah but that's that's even a way newer.

that's. cgi i don't know if that's a real one. and so but it's pretty much like that it. attaches here around your waist. and it kind of works off your hips. and then uh so this is one right here. and so you see he's got this so he's got. this down the sides so that's that's a. that's a regular one with no power so. that's an unpowered one and so on these. little things on his legs and up around. his waist it might be slightly powered. but those things on his legs and they'll. have up there will be like a piston. really and then that will be as you're. moving your leg. it all works off your own kinetics you.

know it's all off and it helps you move. yeah and it can carry large weights so. you can go faster you can carry a lot. more weight why don't i have one of. those in my life i need one of those. paralyzed people they run up hills they. work with paralyzed people they have. people that are paralyzed and they can. attach all this stuff to them and they. can walk around and do it so this one is. powered and see where he's got thing on. his heels like that yeah that was a big. thing because when you step your feet. pivot somewhat and so you have to watch. these things where you put it and how it. goes up there's so much to this thing. you would not believe it it's wild.

there's a lot of technology in that. right there alone and so ultimately they. want it where it covers your body like. an iron man. that's the ultimate would be when you. start putting armor and everything on it. so you can see that. that's a little bit. more and so that's all lightweight stuff. robocop [ __ ] yeah that's wild that's the. direction we're going in but you can see. even that guy right there he's gonna. have a hard time getting out of vehicles. and doing a lot of stuff so as you keep. adding stuff on there we get bigger and. bigger look how big that guy is.

he'd have a real tough time getting. inside of any vehicles yeah he. definitely's not driving anywhere so. that's so that's what the pros and cons. it's like yeah we have all this we have. that but now we have to redo the. vehicles we got to do this there's a lot. too. oh that might be if you look up. carnivore and how are the first one how. far do you think they are from. developing. autonomous robots that replace people. anyway in these situations. i think so with weapons because the. stuff i was working on. 10 and 15 20 years ago.

and how fast we're advancing back then. so i would i would walk into a place and. it'd be a via chip manufacturer for us. to do our sneaky peaky bugs and stuff. and i would show him and say hey this is. what we're working with right now and. then we would give them three million. bucks make it half that size and it's. all weird you have to say here's three. million half the size. and then within six months i'd give it. to us here half the size. and so when we're doing it and for my. budget i think i had like 60 million. dollars so and it's we it's huge budgets.

when you get to top levels of the seals. and we really push it and we're. constantly pushing these envelopes of. technology and so you can kind of see. like even when i was there i know the. sizes and i know that you can have a. chip and you have a chip inside of a. chip and a chip and a chip and a chip so. you have you can go all these layers all. this stuff you start digging. and then every time you have the chip. there's a lot of subroutine sub programs. and everything else you can put into. them there's it's just mind-blowing how. advanced we are so if you when you say. do we have autonomous right now we have.

airplanes vehicles we have all of it. already. wow we're fully careful right now to go. almost. autonomous and it's crazy. do you think they'll develop like a. humanoid type robot or do you think. they'll keep everything to that you know. they have that sort of dog-shaped one. that you see the four-legged one yeah it. seems like that would have that would. maybe have some advantages in terms of. maneuverability with the four legs yeah. with with carrying those heavy loads and. those are just mules so those are just. those are only going to bring us. equipment back and forth you don't think.

they'll use those to shoot guns oh yeah. yeah we already have counts on notice. really they're already gunned up yeah. they probably won't show a lot of the. guns on those things and so when you. would operate that you could operate. that remotely and just be connected by. satellite or something like that. by whatever connection you can yeah. satellite or even long range you know hf. but you hook it up and you have your eye. reticle and then that's directly. irradical with the sight and everything. in it to the robot with the gun on it so. wherever i'm looking at the gun is going. no so i can look and i can see what he's.

looking at i can see what i'm looking at. and then put them both over each other. and then take my shots from the robot or. myself oh my god yeah whatever target. they always would talk about that in. video games that was eventually going to. replace your mouse cursor it was going. to be your eyes. and then like it's somehow another focus. is so like if you think if you're. playing a game and you have triggers in. your fingers and you're like in a first. person shooter like quake or something. like that if you're aiming with your. actual eyes wouldn't that be way better. and you saw the cursor move. but maybe you'd get a [ __ ] horrible.

headache though the other day your neck. would probably be killing you right well. you know the hair you're doing this all. the time your neck would probably freak. the [ __ ] out wouldn't it jamie doesn't. that makes sense. if you if you were playing a video game. and you're you were using your head as. the cursor so that's what these guys. doing oh my god this is a so just stick. that on the robot there's a guy oh my. god this is amazing so what we're. looking at is a man in a cockpit and as. he moves his head up and down the gun. below. moves exactly where his vision is that's. wild so here's how our marine corps guy.

almost killed an entire seal team. platoon oh no so. he was flying up there. and uh he was in a harrier i think it. was fast mover but they also have stuff. like this i'm pretty sure it was i don't. know what i'm pretty sure it's a harrier. but he had it hooked up to his helmet. like that and he also had to press the. talk to talk to us and so we're on the. ground and he's flying past us like this. we're all down here and he's looking. down through us through his cockpit. window. john is pointing down he didn't hit yeah. he's looking right at us with his gun no. and so instead of pushing to push the.

top he hit the trigger it started. blasting at us. and that was like one of the big guns. that was bigger than that it was a it. was a vulcan it was a big gun. so he just started blasting at us. so they're always had their wing man the. wingman dude's flying like this shooting. at us the guy up here is going. winchester winchester he was yelling. winchester is out and the guy was going. oh [ __ ] and everybody started freaking. out we're down here just trying to get. away but yeah it was pretty bad it was. hard how many rounds did he let off. i like eight or ten not that many yeah. but it was like don't go cook up.

and we're like oh man. and then they kind of owed us so there's. a video out there somewhere because then. they owed us because we were like we. knew what happened because we heard the. guy yell in winchester because we had. the comms and everything we're like oh. [ __ ]. and so we told him he said hey. uh that winchester. uh can you guys do a real low level. flyby for us uh help us out a little bit. and were like okay and so those guys. went i swear to god man they were 20. feet off the deck these guys weren't. almost breaking this freaking.

you know speed of sound like just barely. off the deck and dudes like when they. went by it was like throwing us down it. was it moved us wow it was like throwing. guys to the ground because they were so. low we were like yeah we're like okay. we'll forgive the uh you didn't kill. anybody and he gave us like a nice flyby. i'm glad you didn't kill anybody holy. [ __ ] it was nuts and. uh happening right after september 11th. i was uh working in um. uh where the [ __ ] is it. palmdale we're working in palmdale uh.

film and fear factor and that's near uh. i think it's edwards is out in that. direction. edwards air force base yeah and they. were flying just out from l.a yeah yeah. yeah and they had stealth bombers that. were flying overhead i was like oh. [ __ ]. when you see one of those you're like. that's from another planet there's no. way that's ours. it seems so much like a ufo it's also so. big yeah and it looks like it's going. slow because it's so big you're like. it looks like it's going like this it's. just hovering you're like no that thing.

is still going it was like 400 miles an. hour but it's so big it doesn't look. like it moves it looks so much like a. spaceship. it was it was one of those one of those. and it was another one of the another. different one that's like a dark colored. one that they used to avoid radar i. don't know how many of them do they have. to do that. how many different jets do they have. that look like a stealth bomber. i don't know i think there's only like. three or four it's not that many we saw. i think i'm pretty sure if i remember. correctly we saw two it's a long time. ago my memory sucks about this but i do.

remember seeing. the. the stealth bomber flying going i feel. like this is star wars yeah i feel like. this is. we have a boat built like that too. really yeah. and does it do the same thing that's it. it's similar yeah that's the one we saw. yeah i think we have like three of them. kind of similar built like that. what the [ __ ] man look at that thing. that does not look like it's from this. world that's pretty cool. so cool. america look at that thing that's. incredible.

wow look at that though china russia. could make u.s stealth tech obsolete god. damn it. well here's there's another example of. how stupid we are as americans so that. airplane right there costs what how many. billions of dollars. and it becomes obsolete so fast then. we're building all these super carriers. yeah but is that that we're stupid or is. that just what happens. isn't that what happens i mean yes. technology advances though but i think. it's a failure about how the american. mind works we want this really big stuff.

that can carry really big stuff and it's. super expensive and it's one that one oh. [ __ ] all of us are super carriers sr-71. are super carriers like the uh what is. that new on the carter and they cost. billions and billions trillion dollars. and the chinese have the hypersonic uh. carrier busters and so we build this. thing for trillion dollars and then the. chinese build a hypersonic. carrier killer. for a hundred thousand dollars they. shoot ten of those at us for a million.

bucks they just destroyed a trillion. dollar carrier with a hundred thousand. dollars. well isn't that just how technology. works though they're always coming up. with better and better solutions he. keeps going bigger though and bigger. isn't always better we could have done. it. right they don't know that until they do. it and then someone comes up with a. better thing and then they have to come. up with a better thing than the better. thing like make it smaller make it half. half this time that's the same thing. it's a swarm technology yeah but what. they're trying to do is. admirable i mean they're trying to make. a [ __ ] spaceship you know if someone.

makes a better spaceship be like okay. well we'll come up with another space. get off a better one i mean that's how. it gets there it doesn't get there like. they just sit in a lab and think about. it and come up with all the possible. counters to this and so they get. you know paralyzed by analysis. but what's more effective a clt and. platoon. or a battalion of regular 11 bravo army. dudes. i would imagine the seal team is more. effective and it's the same thing with. these giant carriers the giant carrier.

or let's have 10 smaller ones or have. both we're in america goddammit we. should have all that [ __ ] but then we. start voting on the money we have we. have our own space force. don't we. yeah jocko run for president please. please jocko. jocko and tulsi gabbard could [ __ ]. win. kelsey is really doing some good stuff. jocko and tulsi gabbard could become. president and vice president 100. i don't know in that order what order it. would be i don't know if jack goes into.

politics though i don't know if he is. either well we need him i think he is. that's like. some sensibility i went through training. with jacob. i loved it i got some history with him. he's amazing yeah. um. he's done some good stuff. when did you. know that you're a woman like when in. your mind did you know oh god did you. know when you were young yeah yeah like. how young like for for as long as you. remember. yeah pretty much earliest memories like.

what did it feel like what felt. different. because this is in a time where it. wasn't generally accepted or even. discussed it's the early 70s right. there's like there's nothing and that's. what was so confusing to me was that i. did was thinking differently i would. always look at everything and i would. say. you know. that's kind of what i. i'd think like more like that or my. sisters i would see their sisters and. see my brother and i'd be like. that's. more like me. and i couldn't do anything like them.

otherwise my football coach religious. father had a real problem with it. so i would always just hide it so i mean. it was always there it was like anything. is like that's got to be part of the. conversation it would be like when you. said when i think i was a woman. so it wasn't. i know that a lot of stuff i'm gonna. talk about on here. a lot of people are gonna get angry. and i know a lot of people aren't gonna. believe me or they're gonna say that's. wrong or that's that and i and i like. that that's cool i don't mind please.

argue with me tell me i'm wrong you know. i want to know something better i want. to know the truth. and i don't know i don't know what this. is about i do know that humans are. strange. and i know that things are different. it's not always as cut and dry as we say. right but there is biology and you can't. deny biology. and so i am a genetic male if i go to a. hospital and there's something bad wrong. with me and they gotta take blood or do. anything. they have to work off of a male. uh template or a male uh foundational.

data. you know what i mean yes so you can't. deny that that's one of the biggest. problems i see right now is that a lot. of people are denying the genetics of it. and you have to admit that men and women. are different genetically men and women. are different in biological ways many i. think more people chemical strength bone. density so much stuff more people would. be on board if that was on the table for. discussion but it doesn't seem like it. is on the table it's not that's why i. told you a lot of people going to hate. me i'm going to get so much hate mail.

from this conversation just don't read. it because i'm being i'm being truthful. yeah i'm saying if if half those people. would just start telling the truth. then we'd be a lot better off when you. see something like uh the leah thomas. thing like this this swimmer. when you see her winning all these. these competitions as a male as a female. but then as a male being like number. 462. yeah like does that seem fair to. you. like what is yours to answer that.

question i'll ask you a question okay if. i was fighting in ufc right now as a. woman would i win. i don't know you're in good shape who is. there is there a punching bag around. here. yeah there's no i can still do damage. okay. i was trained. and i had a lot of fight training when i. was in the seals. like i'm not like if i fought men's ufc. i'd get they'd kick my ass like in two. seconds. but if i fought ufc. women. i would probably win half the rounds. right now without no training just and.

i'm cold right now i haven't had. training in a while but if i did train. up. i would be a champion well in a women's. division but that's a problem but that's. a problem also like what wait what way. do you. 180. yeah there's no women they're 180. no not even a woman's division the the. the biggest is uh. i think uh the pfl is a woman's 155 so. shoot i'd be a champion already yeah. there'd be no one in your division but i. just i just don't think it's right no. it's not right and i think it's i think.

we're denying biology we're denying. chemistry endocrinology we're denying. all of it i don't mind it if it's. voluntary yeah just like they're you. know you know who jermaine duranomy is. so multiple-time world multi-champion. she was ufc featherweight champion at. one point in time she's a [ __ ]. assassin but that was the point she. fought a dude she had a a it was a. kickboxing match i think with a dude it. might have been a boxing match but. either way she flatlined to do with. straight right like she's a [ __ ]. straight killer she's a straight killer.

i would never want to tell jermaine. duran to me that she can't fight that. guy she can do whatever the [ __ ] she. wants she's a badass she wants to take. just like i feel like you should be able. to ride a bowl you want to ride a bowl. go ahead write a bowl i don't think you. should i tell you if you're my friend. why what kind of thrill are you going to. get out of there. you could [ __ ] die so here's this. dude is swinging hard on jermaine right. oh so it's a boxing match clearly they. have shoes on and he's really trying to. take her out boom she cracks them. so this watch that again because this.

dude is teeing off on her right she look. at her she's just she's trying to fire. back but look at this. look at that right hand right yep. straight her straight right is a goddamn. piston. she's a killer she flatlined that dude. that's hilarious that's awesome. i mean so i'm 100 for that but what i'm. not for is us pretending i'm not for us. pretending that someone who's a. biological male doesn't have advantages. especially when we're really blurring. the lines of like. how long do you have to be uh.

identify as a female for like how much. how long what how much hormones do you. have to take have there been like i. don't know and what's the. how much diff and people will talk about. outliers there are outliers. that is a good good it's a good. conversation because there are people. like roy jones jr in his prime who is an. outlier he was so fast he had such. advantages over the average person just. by nature being born roy jones jr. but we accept that in the spectrum of.

males yeah but you the difference. between what you're saying is that the. spectrum of males where you you know as. a person is not really training would. not be competitive against the males you. still would be against the females. because it crosses over where it puts. you in like a journeyman female pro. fighter level yep yeah yeah. but here's here's rest of the. conversation of what i really believe is. with leah thompson thompson elite thomas. leah thomas yeah so. in ncaa.

and in swimming in ncaa they have a. community they have rules the ncaa has. rules for everything all sports and. pretty much every sport you can think of. has a committee or some type of thing. the olympics has a committee yeah. everybody has rules and so if you're. talking about competition and you have a. rule book. and if that rule allows leia to compete. then why are you complaining. well because you have been a biological. woman in your whole life you've worked. really hard to get to a position. position where you get a scholarship and.

you get a scholarship based on swimming. and you want to have an amazing academic. career and you keep showing up second. place to a biological man and you think. that in your mind you should be number. one because against other women you have. dedicated yourself more you put in more. time you're more focused but you can't. get over that hump of the xy chromosome. biological male who's dominant but. there's rules in the book so the right. the real question is why are those rules. there so they need to work on the rules. the rules are there because we want to.

affirm someone's identity in every. possible way we want to affirm them by. calling them a woman we don't want to. detonate them we don't want to ever. question what they are but by doing that. we've gone into narnia we've gone into. this land where we're kind of pretending. that there's not advantages yeah because. no you're a woman you say you're a woman. you're a woman so you could have a penis. you could have functioning testicles you. could still be a woman yeah like that's. the reality of like we saw what happened. in prison when they put that biological. male in women's prison he impregnated.

two of the inmates. slaying a dick literally. as a woman in a woman's prison it's like. we've got that's narnia okay now we're. in fantasyland something's gotta give. you that we need to get back to. but it's just we have to get to that. level. before we're willing to get but i think. it's again it's one of those things. where it becomes like like people get. ideological about what you accept and. what you don't accept i feel like. personally we should accept anything. that doesn't hurt other people yeah like.

with what you're doing. whatever you say if that makes you feel. better i'm with you yeah as long as it. doesn't hurt anybody else why would. anybody care i don't care at all. i just don't want you to use that as an. advantage against other people and not. not admit that it's an advantage. especially in fighting. and fighting that's one that's one that. really bothers me power sports it's not. just a power sport it's like the size of. your hands is so goddamn important in. terms of how hard you can hit it's so.

important if you look at the big. strikers like no one has tiny hands yeah. they all have like mike tyson has. [ __ ] mallets you know george foreman. had some of the biggest [ __ ] they. were canned hams they were huge hands. like you you don't grow that if you live. your life as a woman and then transition. to male it doesn't work that way or if. you're just biologically female your. whole life but if you're a biological. male and you're built like brock lesnar. yeah and then you decide to transition. there's not a woman alive that can stop.

you you can't compete they don't exist. they never will exist there never will. exist if you want to talk about outliers. brock lesnar as a woman is the outlier. of all outliers and it it's it's too. crazy you can't it's not it's never. going to be fair impossible to be fair. well you just said one of the words that. i always talk about also is i want to. talk about equality. which what we're talking about hey. everybody compete you're not hurting. anybody. equality but you also have to look at. fairness so what would you do so let's. be as equal as we can. let everybody compete as much as we can.

at the same time be fair yes how do you. do that it's hard you know there was a. thailand um nobody wants to talk about. it though nobody wants to be honest but. you do and i do so we're going to we're. going to do this okay chris just to work. this out there was a um a muay thai. fighter in thailand and uh he he started. off his career as a he and then. transitioned to be a she and then when. she transitioned to be a she she decided. to get the full operation and when she. got the full operation. she lost all of her testosterone and she.

started losing yeah and but she still. was fighting men oh wow okay yeah which. is really warm. so she went from being this elite. assassin kickboxer to. all of a sudden the testosterone is. completely cut off but continues to. engage in fighting because it's what. she's good at and is just getting. wrecked by dudes yeah unfortunately it. changes the whole game it changes so it. does change something right oh yeah so. we know it does but does it change. enough to compete against women that's. the question especially when it comes to. fighting.

i think as long as you're above bored. with it and you tell the woman just like. i'm in favor of jermaine derandemi's. fight yeah i'm i'm and you do whatever. you want to do yeah i'm in favor of that. but if you want to talk about things. like ncaa sports or the olympics or like. yeah we're in a [ __ ] weird area here. kids you're you're denying science now. because you're denying the competition. yeah it's not just hide there's. you're crushing someone's dreams in a. way that. like if you let's imagine this if you're.

a wrestler and you're an elite wrestler. 134 pounds and you're a [ __ ] assassin. you're out there pinning people and. you're going undefeated. you become ncaa division one national. champion and then you go to the olympics. and they decide we're not going to have. weight classes anymore. because we're body positive we can't be. using the scale we're body positive. everybody competes against everybody. well now you have to go against corellon. so here you are some 130 pound really. elite wrestler who should be an olympic.

gold medalist and you're going to get. your spine snapped in half yeah by a 220. pound monster on his lightest day on his. lightest day there's a [ __ ] photo of. corellon that i posted on my instagram i. go every now and then i look at this. photo just to remind myself of what a. [ __ ] i am yeah and it's corellon where. he's got his arms wrapped around some. guy's waist and he's hoisted him up and. it's a black and white photo and he has. the most maniacal look in his eyes it's. [ __ ] incredible because he was. just a destroyer of men when corellon.

was wrestling look at that photo look at. that [ __ ] photo. god damn what a man yeah. get some i mean that is get some in. physical form that is gets uh we need a. giant metal you got an image of that. jamie we need one of those we need that. corellan photo please get that poster a. giant metal print. order print got it jamie. that's badass look at that doesn't that. scare the [ __ ] out of you. he scares the [ __ ] out of me because.

that's like a [ __ ] 260 pound man you. know he's the most badass woman any that. ever lived on earth. and then have her go against him yeah. all he has to do is just identify as a. woman well good luck but if you uh if. you ever watched him wrestle no well you. need to watch this because what he would. he was so [ __ ] strong that guys would. flatten out on the ground to try to lay. down and spread themselves out to keep. him from hoisting them up in the air. yeah and he would just pick them up. watch he would do it and he would do it. over and over and over again watching.

hoist them up in the air and smash them. and he kept doing it over and over again. so you'd go down and he would pick you. up in the air again and just what's this. look at this [ __ ] everybody went for. he just hit you with the earth. he was playing a totally different game. his game was smashing you into the. ground until you give up your game was. wrestling his game is i'm so much bigger. than you then i'm gonna [ __ ] smash. you i'm gonna hit you he's he's playing. a different combat sport it's a whole. different thing it's it's impact yeah. and look at everybody would flatten out.

they would flatten out to try to avoid. being. thrown like a [ __ ] bag of potatoes. man he would just pick people up he was. so strong look at this and this guy's. huge the guy's doing it too but this is. what he's picking up 250 pound dude and. watch this he just hoist you. boom. he just laid there he didn't even try to. get up because he's probably dizzy. and he did it to everybody boom on your. [ __ ] head boom. everybody got thrown. and he just had pure dominance he was so.

athletic and so strong and you know he. had small parents wow they called him. the experiment. that's what they called the russians. called him like i don't know what they. did they were doing something but if you. looked at his parents. his parents were like regular-sized. folks. and they had this giant-ass baby that. looks like he's from another planet. that's the best. have you ever met a lot of russian dudes. oh just like regular people me too i. like those guys i love you every time i.

hang out with the russians it's like. dude you guys are good people there's so. many russian fighters in the ufc so many. guys from dagestan. so many guys from russia so many guys. from uh saint petersburg there's a bunch. of guys that came from there. there's uh i mean you want to talk about. like a part of the world that produces. some incredible fighters yeah like. one of the greatest heavyweights of all. time human human every one of them. russians i've ever met with good folks. the government is messed up i think we. can say the same thing about our. government yes. if you meet americans just one-on-one.

you're going to like almost every one of. us yeah and our government's messed up. and also if we had the right attitude. that we're really just a community and. if republicans met democrats just like. in a regular setting we could sit down. and have a meal together people could. have like normal conversations and. that's how we should be supposed to be. yeah the polarization is. largely unnecessary there's things that. we disagree on but the way that we. approach those things is like our side. has to win and your side is full of [ __ ]. like your side has no point like they.

both kind of have points and i can see. the merits of both arguments on almost. all issues both full of [ __ ] and they. both have points and they're both being. co-opted by giant businesses and you're. pretending you're not you said something. earlier about getting rid of the parties. yeah and i was i have like a different. approach to it and i said if we want to. fix the polarization in america right. now. we could fix it. all of us individuals the people we. could fix all this polarization within. one election cycle. if every american citizen registered as.

an independent whoa. think about what would happen yeah so. all those political parties. oh yeah you could those far left right. you're never going to get those guys but. if you can get most of the americans to. register independent that means that the. democrats and the republican parties. could not counter your vote so they. would lose their permanent base it would. all have to compete so they couldn't be. as extreme as they are because you would. lose all those independents yeah so. you'd have to kind of like be more. careful about what you say and what your.

policies are because most of their. promises every one of them politicians. made during all their elections they. don't really do them. they do all this extreme stuff and all. this extreme language and then to get. their votes from their party then as. soon as they get in there to go middle. you know what it's like it's like you. remember charlie brown and lucy always. used to pretend that she's gonna hold. that football right when charlie brown. goes to kick it she yanks it away. that's american politics that's american. politics we're a bunch of charlie browns. every year with suckers we're such. suckers we just go to kick that [ __ ].

ball did you ever think about going. independent though what i was talking. about yeah i mean i voted i voted uh the. last two elections i voted uh. libertarian i've had a libertarian and. very mixed and it wasn't that i thought. the libertarian had a chance to win it. was just like what are we doing i. couldn't what is this yeah i couldn't. vote i could it was there's so much of. it that i was like what are we doing. like these are our choices. and like no one's saying anything that. that resonates with the way i feel the. world is like that we we have real. problems in this country but we also.

have money for other countries whenever. [ __ ] i'm not saying we shouldn't help. ukraine we most certainly should help. ukraine yeah right yeah they're being. attacked but. where's the money to help the inner. cities where's the money to help these. [ __ ] up communities that have been. this way since since. like the civil war like where where's. the the money to fix the education. system where's the money just to put. some protection in these schools i'm. about the single point entry and having. one-to-armed guard young kids crippled. by these [ __ ] student loans that.

didn't know what they were doing now. they're i was reading some article about. this lady that's 250 000 in debt jeez. yeah she'll never pay that off. that's it's nuts. it's like there's a lot of people like. that out there that are crippled by. student debt like should we really like. saddle them down with that when they're. 18 they don't even understand the. concept of time and they can't even use. those degrees you know there's people. that are 65 years old that are getting. social security and their social. security is getting docked because they.

owe money for student loans student. loans the only loans you always owe no. matter what yeah even if you go bankrupt. if you go bankrupt you like have a lot. of credit card debt that goes away. kristen go bye-bye yeah. yeah you could do that with those. decisions you a business can go under. you can go away to business what i'm. doing what am i gonna do i can't i don't. have anything anymore sorry guys how. many times are those big companies they. do it all the time but you can't do that. on your student loans which is [ __ ]. insane crazy you're just an individual.

yeah because they think they think so. many people would just go bankrupt they. would go [ __ ] this i'm just going. bankrupt yeah. that is not good for anybody and i how. you can't. think that i don't think that education. should be necessarily. i don't know if it should be free. maybe you should have to put in some. effort to get it so that you ensure that. people do like that's one thing that. changed my mind a lot during the. pandemic yeah is i used to be like very. pro universal basic income until i saw. how many people didn't want to work as.

soon as they got covered money and as. soon as they got unemployment i was like. huh wait a minute hold on maybe these. folks that are more pragmatic half of. that covered relief phones went to like. fraud stuff a lot of it was like oh my. god does it really happen. it was i think it was more than half god. that's so crazy and i just kept seeing. the numbers it was like oh my god it's. like half we did we do have a problem. with this generation feeling entitled. yeah like i've heard people talk about. that they're entitled because they they. talk about what they say is. disparagement of wealth wealth.

inequality and there there's right yeah. there's definitely wealth inequality but. then they decide that the billionaires. have enough money so none of us should. ever have to work. and you go whoa whoa what does that mean. that's not even good for you it's not. even good for you believe it or not if. you want to be happy in this life i. think you have to have tasks and you. have to try to achieve those tasks and. you have to work towards things and you. have to do things that challenge you and. excite you and whether that's an. artistic pursuit or whether that's a. physical pursuit whatever it is. it's my belief and it's just my opinion.

that in order to be happy you have to. occupy yourself with difficult things. something and enjoyable things and. also have a great community of loving. people those are the ways to be happy. yeah you don't get happy just by the. [ __ ] billionaires giving you money. like you're going to be miserable if you. just have all the money you need for. food and shelter and you don't ever have. to work do you know how many people. would just ruin their lives and never do. anything and wake up when they're like. 70 like oh my god i did nothing. a lot of people would man it's a trap.

it's. it's a trap with humans. you know humans have some traps that we. kind of identified you know what's. really interesting my friend yoni sent. me this uh video um apparently monkeys. share in human beings like percentages. of alcoholics when they're exposed to. alcohol it's really similar ah dang i. never read that monkey that's cool he. sent me this thing i'll send it to you. jamie it's pretty dope but it's monkeys. um when they live around resort areas.

they steal the drinks that people leave. on on the tables and the bars and [ __ ]. and they've been doing it for so long. they become alcoholics so they just. these monkeys are running around. it's pretty drunk and monkey is a real. thing but it is a real thing but what's. really interesting is that the the. monkeys that drink the most are the. monkeys that are respected. do you got it. yes that's it that's exactly it. ver vervet monkeys weird nature bbc.

animals on youtube so these monkeys are. just stealing drinks and they're getting. hammered. but what's weird is the monkeys that. gets the most [ __ ] up are the monkeys. that are the most respected. it's like they're they're [ __ ]. they're they're they're heroes are the. dudes that get smashed look at them. they're [ __ ] so hammered it's just. like the sale teams. they just fall down and [ __ ] it's really. funny man and if this video like they're. constantly breaking glasses they knock. glasses over.

and in these areas where you know these. monkeys live where tourists are they're. just getting [ __ ] up all the time. but they said that some of them realized. that alcohols were not not for them and. it's a very similar percentage as human. beings that's pretty cool the ones that. are really addicted to it very similar. percentage as human beings but other. ones they only gravitate towards like. soda like they find like sodium yeah. the vast majority are social drinkers. who indulge in moderation and only when. they're with other monkeys.

but never before lunch and prefer their. alcohol to be diluted with fruit juice. 15 drink regularly and heavily and. prefer their alcohol neat or diluted. with water isn't that amazing neat they. like do they look straight whiskey i'm. part of the five percent the same. proportion drink little or no alcohol. five percent are classified as seriously. abusive binge drinkers they get drunk. start fights and consume as much as they. can until passing out as with humans. most heavy drinkers are young males but.

monkeys of both sexes and all ages like. a drink. that's exactly us it is i think i'm in a. five percent binge jackass a lot of. people are a lot of people are but they. think that it's like very similar to the. numbers that they find in humans that's. pretty wild pretty wild i kind of quit. drinking now because i found i was a. binge drinker so i kind of like i'd. drink once in a while i'll just have. water too the problem but i pretty much. like i cut back. drinking is it's fun it's real fun it's. fun people drink because it's fun like.

the idea of not drinking at all i'm like. slow down that's why i still i still do. it a little bit when i'm out social i'll. have my one or two and still have the. fun yeah but i just cut way back from. that binge drunk pass out like i don't. do that ever good. you don't want to do that. i think that was like a young dumb seal. that. we took everything to extremes you know. oh i'm sure so i just. super competitive i at last got out of. that yeah. super competitive dudes i remember uh. there's like there's times when you're.

with competitive guys and they all they. get competitive with the drinking too. like jesus christ it was you can't stop. yeah it's like everything's got to be a. shooting competition me and andy stumpf. one night we drank until andy fell. asleep at the bar and i just stood up. like this victory [ __ ] winner. he went unconscious at the bar. oh my god yeah we started at sushi he's. great yeah and he's great he's an. awesome dude yeah. so we were we were talking about like. the way you felt.

the way you felt where you felt like you. were a woman and then this was wrong. like you were in the wrong body or the. wrong. something's off but at the same time i. was fighting that. i was i didn't feel right but it also in. my mind because of. religion and parental and society and. everything else i was being told in the. 60s and 70s i was wrong so i was broken. there was no real examples for you to. follow because right there's nothing. interesting richards the tennis player i.

didn't even know who that was you didn't. know about that one but that was a. really rare thing i was a kid growing up. in the 70s with with nothing a black and. white tv. on a farm and going to church on. wednesdays for for bible study and every. sunday for church. a lot of ways you're a great example too. because there's this there's this um. dialogue there's this narrative that. people are indoctrinated yeah that's. what i was getting at yeah and then you. clearly were not a doctor i was in a. bubble i was in a religious impossible.

to be indoctrinated there was zero. indoctrination it was the opposite of. indoctrination yeah yeah i was being. told all the opposite and so i was. fighting it i was fighting all these. feelings because i was like i'm evil i'm. wrong i'm not worthy. and so all these minds are going through. a kid. like it's really messes you up i can. only imagine now when did you start. expressing it outwardly. i mean. to anyone else besides just myself and. yeah like hiding like yeah totally 100. scared. not until i was like in college. to one of my sisters.

so it was it was very like i was scared. man i was like i didn't know what was. wrong with me. i wanted to fix it i was doing. everything i could to fight against it. and figure out what was wrong with me. and so that was like i was in philosophy. i was in religion i was doing all this. stuff i wanna. like even as a high school i was into. philosophy i was in like all this. reading trying to figure out what is. wrong with me can you imagine like a kid. like. growing up like that and figuring out. biology religion philosophy all of it.

and not finding any answers in anything. did you try to find them. were there any books on other people. that. were in a similar situation yeah there's. no books on it that you remember that i. found. right where would you find that in the. 70s i wouldn't even have a word to look. up i didn't know the word so even like. give me a word so you didn't know that. it was a thing. wow i was alone 100 isolated. wow. and i i mean. i didn't have sex until i was like 24.

because i was scared i didn't know what. was going on i didn't do anything i was. like can you imagine a 24 year old. virgin in the seals. whoa. all right before i joined the seals i. finally did it i think i was oh would. have been like 22 or 23 then. i just i did what drew you to the seals. i. for military for me my grandfather was. in world war ii he was in a navy on a. jeep carriers one of those gunners. shooting down kamikazes my uncle was in. battle of bulge in the army i had like.

cousins and uncles and all over my. entire family military. and so i always grew up around that. military spirit and that kind of thing. world war ii we wanted everybody it was. always like this thing where we're the. winners we're americans and we did this. and that was how i grew up all my aunts. and uncles and her. uncles were all working in oil fields. and all very tough and all that my dad. was a football player. got was going towards the new york jets. you know before he blew his knee out and. i got blown away and like it was a big. football.

working military family. and then you got me. wow you know and so what was i going to. do from my earliest age i could remember. i always was like focused on the. military you know i was always like. ending like the cameras and studying. military stuff strategy so you you. gravitate towards those things. yeah i never grabbed graduated or. gravitated towards anything feminine. like i was always trucks and. guns and motorcycles and.

there was never anything feminine in my. life well what's fascinating is you're. really really honest right so when. you're talking about this and. it's. unquestionably a courageous thing to. live your life very publicly the way you. do and talk about this especially as a. seal that's i hate that word courage. applied to just. but just being authentically yourself no. matter what you do takes courage not. many people have they do a job because. their dad wants them to do it yeah. and they they keep they stay in that. [ __ ] business until they're resentful.

and old and they realize they they. [ __ ] wasted their life i don't want i. don't want that for anybody and with. that whatever it is whether it's your. gender identity whether it's your your. occupation. whether it's where you live. you should express yourself and live. your life the way you want to live we. should all share that that that need. to let people be who the [ __ ] they are. and to listen to what they're saying so. when someone like you who wasn't living. in this world today where you know. people worry about that it's so high. profile and there's so much social. status attached to it there's a lot of.

discussions about it where it's like in. the social zeitgeist in such a strong. way but your situation illuminates the. very real. dilemma that someone has when they're in. your spot. it's very real this is real it has to be. real yeah it has to be real why would. you lie why would you lie about that why. would i go from the seal teams retiring. and being like that caveman with a big. beard. being recruited into three-letter agency. type work and making over 200 000 a year.

that's where i was i was at that top. level walking in the pentagon and. walking in a agency i had all the badges. i had blue badge i had all the badges. and then i went from that to the next. day walking in with a dress and then. losing everything. what happened i was making over two. hundred thousand dollars a year man so. did they not want to accept you when you. changed they they can't. legally fire me but they can't stop. invite me to meetings they can't stop. calling me they can't stop inviting me. this is what i wrote and then after a.

while you're you're just kind of like. and i was at that point i was like man. i'm running these programs and i'm not. getting an email to go to that meeting. because you guys it's it's that. they put you in a very private way to. not. be prejudiced. but to not invite somebody. do you think that that would happen. today. probably not that's interesting right. yeah yeah because what year would you. say this was 2013 12 13. that's not that. long ago it's not very long ago things. have changed a lot a lot seven eight.

years isn't that wild like. the world changed in eight years in many. ways you are uh i mean you're a pioneer. in that way yeah right it was when i. first came out it was terrible it was. nobody was talking about the military. having anybody transgender in the. military it wasn't even spoken about. really we everybody knew it was there. but it wasn't talked about. and then when i came out the. conversation started because i was like. holy cow how many more transgender. people are in the military and so at. that point in. 2012 and.

it was actually the secretary of defense. um. god who was it because he was my boss. before he became a section. and he saw me come out so he saw. everything going on it was a. god why is my memory so bad sometimes. weed. yeah. but he uh so he saw it all and then he. became secretary of defense until the. conversation started. at that point in 2014-15. when you decided to show up for work. wearing a dress is it because that's.

that's official outfit for females. no i mean at that time i was already. retired and i was wearing a suit and tie. i was retired so i was suit and tie. civilian making big money. doing all of my inventions and. innovation for the military and. department of defense so there's no. dress code in terms of like. women if a woman wanted to wear a suit. she could as well oh yeah i could have. right yeah and so did you decide to wear. a dress to. sort of broadcast yeah yeah it was at.

the point where it was like i was tired. of. in my own head all this internal. struggle this internal battle. and. just like all of life everything for us. starts like in our mind starts with. thought and so this thought has been. digging in my brain since i was a kid. and i was just tired. you know. and so what do i do do i do i start. trying to live a life where i can make. this gnawing. idea. stop and start doing it.

or do i just keep it gnawing in my head. and when you did decide to. make the move. did you feel differently did you feel. freer. god when i looked back at that day it. was like it was nuts because there was. so much pressure i yeah i went from that. pentagon suit and tied doing my projects. running making phone calls having. meetings. and then the next morning i went into a. nail salon. and i dressed. you know in this gray dress this ratty.

crappy wig and heels for whatever stupid. reason i don't wear any heels i don't do. that stuff anymore because i was going. through as a 40-something-year-old going. through puberty. [Laughter]. trying to figure out who am i right you. know i mean that's what you're supposed. to do as a teenager right who am i and. as a teenager you try to give your. teenager as much room as possible to try. to figure out who they are. during their teenage years you don't. want them figuring out when they're 20. because you're you're should be working. by now you should be starting your own.

family if you still don't know who you. are by the time you're 25 you have some. stuff going on in your head that you. need to figure out. and so i figure i'm 40 something years. old. trying to figure it out right so it's a. mess it's it's it's a not a good picture. it's a 40-something-year-old trying to. be a teenager right you're trying to and. you're wearing a wig yeah so i walked. into the nail salon and it says i want a. full set and so that's when they. actually scrape it down and add the nail. on there and polish and all that you. can't take them off oh no and so i'm. stuck now that's how i did it kind of on.

purpose because i was like i'm gonna do. this and so it's like jumping out of the. back of the airplane right you know when. you get up to that first job free fall. jump no matter if you're jumping day. time or whatever you're it's night time. because as soon as you go out you're. like shutting your eyes you're like. nighttime jump did anybody have a. meeting with you were there no talk to. you about it nobody everyone just kept. quiet no i mean i've walked in there. suit and tie put nails on that morning. and then walked into the pentagon. because i couldn't turn back now i have. to be at work i got a meeting right so i. was walking in there and going oh my god.

i'm there now and i walked off to the. first entrance to pentagon which you. have to go through a few different. badges for me because i had to go into. the deep stuff so i walk into the first. gate out there by the metro and try my. badge and the guy's looking at it and. he's going. and the guy was like seriously looking. and i says. yeah i started out as a dude and the guy. was like it's me. i said if you need to call in. whatever he was the guy was like. no that's cool and he was like wow hurry. up go get faster then the next guard was. the same one then i finally get to my.

inner like down in the basements where. you have the outside door then you have. somebody behind there with a guard and. that's the inside door and you have one. more door. so all these doors i'm going through i'm. having to see people i see every day and. now i'm looking all like it was the most. nerve-wracking talk about when you talk. about courage and i don't like using. that word for just showing up. i think courage is like way more than. just showing up that's why i didn't like. it applied to. um what's her name um. who's the famous one jenner when they.

start talking about the courage award. and all this i go nah that's not courage. that's just me finally well you could. speak to that because you have seal my. life i'm just yeah like i'm just living. so for me just to show up is no it's not. courage for me to show up and do. something courageous would be courage. that's why i don't like that word i know. what you're saying i just showed up but. you're uniquely qualified to judge that. word from being a seal that that gives. you a unique i mean there's no doubt. seals are it's like the word hero right. i just i'd be really careful when i use.

the word hero yeah heroes reserved for. all of my buddies that we were. remembering yesterday during memorial. day right those are heroes i'm not also. johnny depp yeah how johnny depp is. definitely here. damn that freaking. that whole that whole journey the whole. thing is just. it's a clown show yeah dude. for sure but i just yeah but. so you you coming out was the most. strange day.

i was getting phone calls from bill. shepard called me up. the astronaut bill shepherd was my. direct boss what does he say. he called up and says are you okay that. was the first thing he asked was hey. chris are you okay and she always says. chief chief are you okay i was going yes. sir i'm fine and he was like okay so. what's going on. [Laughter]. because he had all the calls because. everybody knows that he was one of my. bosses and he's like a mentor like. he's awesome man he's one of the. greatest feels that i've ever worked.

with because he's so open-minded and so. inquisitive and so like. that guy's a thinker is there a fear. that they have when someone does. something like that that were they. worried that maybe you. from combat duty had like some sort of a. serious mental issue like i had a huge. break or something right and as soon as. they talked to me for five minutes. they're like all right well it wasn't. that so what is it and so i had to talk. him through it i'd say this is something. i've been dealing with since i was a kid. and i'm trying to figure it out and i. said i don't know what the right path is.

i don't know if i'm doing the right. thing if i'm doing the wrong thing i. have no idea but i have to do something. because this thing has been on my head. since i was a kid. and it didn't affect the way you did. your job no. so. what was. why didn't they eventually just. accept it. it was it was probably. 70 percent my fault. because as you're going through this. thing you're not in your right mind. because you're still thinking about a. lot of their stuff you have all going on.

so i wasn't. and i'm gonna say and like like i said. before i'm gonna be honest and i never. i'd never want to beat around i want you. to have all the facts right because then. you can make a better decision about. about me. and maybe carry your decision about me. on to other people dealing with the same. thing yes when you're dealing with this. it's always on your mind. it's it's never off distracted you may. be distracting diminished your ability. to do your work yeah for sure. and i can admit that i wasn't i was. definitely not doing the work that i. could have done let me ask you this.

though if you were supported. and if they said. you know hey chris we're. kristin is better like let's let's go. with christians that make you happy and. uh we love you we accept you we think. you do great work without it been like. easier like maybe you wouldn't have had. all this [ __ ] on your mind because you. felt like hey these people that believe. in me and i've been a colleague of them. for years they just accept this is just. a new thing yeah maybe it relaxed you it. would have helped a lot i did have that. support from my direct leadership.

and a few other people. okay so you can't control. everyone else right you can never. control how somebody thinks no you and i. don't want to i can also don't want to. change the way they think too much about. all this too fast right and so the. problem was because i was one of the. first people in that arena. of special operations or the high level. agency stuff. i was definitely a guinea pig. and so i didn't do it right all the way.

and neither did they though i was. definitely getting i was getting less. calls i was getting i was missing. meetings it wasn't. and i wasn't fully in it and so it's a. combination of being super new at it. they didn't know how to handle it. i didn't know how to handle it either so. all those issues i was in the wrong. place i really appreciate that i really. appreciate that you have that honesty. because i think this is such a unique. window into someone who's experiencing. this that for you to be very honest. about how it affected the way you did.

your job. i think that's really important and i. commend you for that i think it's really. cool we're never going to get to. anything. like a good solution to any of this. because this is a this is an issue with. humanity right just like we said earlier. this is real i was really going through. it i grew up in an environment where i. was not indoctrinated not i didn't know. what was going on and i'm still doing. this well you know we talked about the. heyoka earlier that was also a thing in. the lakota people that they had a third. gender yeah yeah they then they praised. those people because they had traits of.

both and they could see into both sides. yeah so they could see how a woman would. look at it and they could see how a man. would look at it and they they valued. them for their wisdom in that regard. that they had a unique vision. and i really think that's where i'm. coming in. that makes sense. like it's something like i do it right. now if i have like couples and i'm i'm. right now doing my master's degree. graduate school in mental health. counseling and so i've been studying. tons of psychology and all this mental. health stuff and human development from.

you know birth through everything i've. been studying this stuff like hardcore. now for almost three years just stop and. think about people that were lakotas. living on the plains yeah in the 1700s. why would they invent something like. that they were barely getting by because. it was real yeah it was real. i mean if there's a better test case. please show it to me if you want to have. the clearest example that people were. literally they were hunters and. gatherers yeah. i mean it was the hardest [ __ ] life. you could then you had one yeah exactly.

and it's that small of a number. transgender people as well you have that. transgender person was a helicopter you. know most of them fell into that. medicine person. area because i knew and that's why i. said i'm in mental health counseling. right now and i'm trying really hard to. figure this out because i do think that. when i have couples therapy i have. people come in. i can really dig into. the psyche. of the male perspective in a female. perspective and when i talk to him i say.

what about this right and then they both. go. that's that's what we were thinking. about because i can bring it all. together that totally makes sense i mean. there's obviously a spectrum when it. comes to all sorts of issues with human. beings why wouldn't there be a spectrum. when it comes to that why wouldn't there. be some people that sort of identify. more in a feminine side but also. understand the masculine side it makes. sense because it's real it should it. should be. like. it should be just something that people. just accept. i think the things like the swimming.

issue and the sports issue in the. olympics like that's one of the dividing. things. it's a side track but unfortunately it. puts a wedge into what should be. live your life like you want to live. your life as long as it's not hurting. anybody you know as long as it's good. for you it's like that's what you like. good. god bless that's how we really should. treat all of it and i feel like. unfortunately when it comes to things. like sports where people like hey hey. now you're getting ideology in the way. of fairness in the way of real equality. like the equality that a woman has to be.

able to pursue athletics against other. women things are getting squirrely. well think of it like this what was the. dude's name that wrestler. corellin yeah. that dude was born to do what he's doing. yeah he might have been like that guy. was mine. he was the experiment let's see if he. can find his people show corellon next. to his parents professional football. players professional hockey all these. people who are at the highest levels of. their sport super athletes or hawking. yeah you have all the people at the. highest level of their intellectual. capacity.

people are born with gifts. and why couldn't we look at what i'm. going through as a gift of heyoka it's a. gift that after i graduate with a degree. in mental health counseling i'm able to. start counseling people. can't you look at this as a gift that i. can see it from all these different. perspectives and sides well there's. really help people there's a natural. tendency that people have to pick on. people that are different yeah that's. that's a natural tendency and most of it. comes from insecurity it comes from. you don't ever want to be the person. that gets picked on so when you see an.

opportunity to pick on someone. especially like you see young young kids. in the playground that's what they do. right they find the one boy who's weird. and they pick on him right it's totally. like. if we could figure out a way to show. how pathetic that really is and how bad. that is and that's like the only reason. why you're doing this because you're. insecure yeah like if you're really. secure you wouldn't want to do that. you'd want to protect that person and go. come on leave them alone what do you. what do you give a [ __ ] yeah what's the. problem here but it's that that's the. problem the problem is these people that.

are really afraid of their own. masculinity or whether or not it's solid. or whether or not they're respected or. whether you know they're insecure so. they see someone who seems to be more. insecure than them and they attack it. chickens do that man it's a pecking. order dogs do that dogs do that they. find a cowardly dog they'll bite that. dog they'll chase them and growl at them. it's a horrible tendency in nature to. try to uh find uh you know like find. someone that they can exert their will. over is that part of like survival of. the dogs the species the dog will pick.

on that weak dog. because you don't want that dog to. interrupt with the rest of the because. then the whole species is weaker because. now you don't have a weak link well you. could you could say that dogs have been. affected by human being because they. most certainly have right i mean you. have a german shepherd is that german. that german shepherd is obviously a dog. that is like highly trained yeah highly. selected for breeding and it's super. intelligent like you'd see when that dog. walks in that dog is like scanning the. area that's not like my dog my dog is. like oh my friend. it's a totally different kind of dog but. a wolf has not been affected by people.

yeah a wolf is just a [ __ ] wolf and. wolves do it they attack small they the. beta wolves they kill them yeah they. they drive them out of the wolf pack if. they think they're not doing their job. they get rid of them yeah if they have. like some bitch-ass wolf that lays back. and doesn't join the hunt they get rid. of them we used to do that though. yeah but we don't do it anymore but the. thing is sometimes the guy who doesn't. want to get in the hunt who lays back. can figure out how to make an airplane. yeah or can develop a computer chip or. maybe they have yeah. some people aren't meant to be like.

physically courageous and and. and badasses some people are meant to be. coders like they're fascinated by. computer languages they're fascinated by. technology and innovation and trying to. find better solutions to things that's. their arena but that computer guy you're. not going to try to make him. equalized somehow like bergeron we're. going to have him as a professional. football player well you could try. because i think football is like you're. going to get killed but a person like me. if we were in the old days those.

intellectual spiritual guides or those. people who had that knowledge because we. could see it from all these different. sides yeah why can't we just say that's. that's my position as the archetypes the. joseph campbell archetypes the carl jung. if you look into the actual who we are. as people and you look at all those. archetypes. and we study them and we say this is who. we are yeah you can fall into any one of. these categories i think why don't kids. learn that at a younger age to know that. this is a necessary thing. like if you're being a bully because.

you're picking on that nerd. and we need that chemistry computer nerd. because that's where they fall into the. hierarchy of who we are as people yeah. it's a necessary thing it is i really. believe that who i am heyoka is a. necessary archetype of humanity you need. the sacred clowns if you don't have. those heyoka and sacred accounts and. styles and all those history. intellectual. challenging things that i want the truth. yeah and i'm going to challenge you to. figure out the truth. and right now we're not doing that.

because we're so stuck on these freaking. stereotypes that ominous and you have to. respect my gender i said i don't want. you to respect my gender i want you to. respect the ability for me to critically. think and like intellectually look at. this from all these different sides and. tell you that this is what i find is the. truth this is an objective truth and not. a subjective truth i think we we mix up. subjectivity and objectivity everybody. is subjective and relative in this. current days this current era that we're. living in there is no objectivity.

everything is subjective right and if. everything is subjective nothing is true. well some things are true like if. everything's such a frying pan it hurts. oh yeah it does that's not really. subjective but it doesn't hurt me as. much as it would hurt you really i have. a thicker skull you have a thicker skull. than me are you sure maybe not. there's some things that i'm going to. let slide but i don't know about that. one but the thing is like. the way the current generation is in. this younger generation this new. generation of people don't look at it.

the way me and you look at it right they. look at things so different but i think. they're also more open-minded i think in. some ways they're more accepting of. things so in some ways it's better but i. think there's. all sorts. they submit to the will of their tribe. they they accept an ideology and they. push it with all sorts of aggression on. both sides both sides do. you know when people.

want to only look at transgenderism as a. mental illness like the well you're. pushing it the other way just as crazy. like that's crazy too like you tell me. it's a mental why well if they're if it. makes them actually happy how is it an. illness. what is it how do we not know that. people have different ways like some. people love music that i think is dog. [ __ ] right so what is happening what are. they what is happening when they hear. that music and they love it there's. something that. i cannot deny.

their love of this thing i cannot they. think things differently people like all. sorts of different clothes that other. people don't like people they're. attracted to different ways of life. they're attracted to different ways of. communicating why wouldn't they be. varied in their gender it only makes. sense and why can't we respect that why. can't we just leave people to [ __ ] alone. libertarian and all yeah not just that. but support it go and look i. support you. live your life i want you to live your. life. that's what we need to concentrate on.

more than anything and then once we do. that we realize like we don't have. nearly as many enemies as we think we do. most people are good people i really. that's the only way we could ever exist. on a highway or in [ __ ] cities and. streets if everybody was bad we'd be. just murdered and everybody left there. would be chaos to be blood bats in the. streets but it's not. generally. most people get along fine like today we. just met just met your girlfriend you. met mercy you met phil you met all these. people everybody's friendly everybody's. great that's isn't that most of life.

that's most of life just like we were. talking about the russians earlier yes. almost all the russian dudes i met one. good dudes yeah the idea that we're. going to [ __ ] go to war with these. guys like why. we'd like to drink with them yeah i bet. they'd be fun guys it's like the the. thing that separates us is groups. like the idea that we're in the the. american group versus the russian group. like one day i think what technology. what they're probably scared of when. they really want to avoid is that there. will be no boundaries between physical. experiences languages you could be able.

to travel wherever you want money will. be decentralized they'll have no control. over people anymore and then people will. govern based on what's good for people. yeah and they'll figure that out but it. might take a thousand years. i don't i hope that too but i i think. that we have to get to a point where we. just realized that a lot of our. tendencies towards aggressive behavior. towards people with opposing viewpoints. is a tribal thing and it's a natural. part of human behavior characteristics. that exist in primates and it's not good.

and there's ways to get around it and. there's ways but it takes a long road. and when someone gets through it like. you yeah or someone gets through it like. someone else that might be exemplary you. can you could see how they they can give. you some insight as to their struggle. and maybe we can all take that into. consideration and just treat people a. little nicer just be cool yes be [ __ ]. cool yeah i like the tribes i mean i've. read what was that one book that guy. wrote about the tribes in the beginning. and really like nailed it down. just i it's guy.

no that's the that's a tribe but that's. really more about it there's a brick if. they really went into the tribes and why. we do it as humans and and i believe. it's tribes are important we need these. tribes was it sapiens was that a nova. by the way that guy gets misquoted left. or right now everybody thinks he's like. some evil satanist. nietzsche gets quoted alright tribe seth. godin is that it tribes we need you to. lead us is that it. which one is it sebastian younger oh. sebastian younger tribe that okay yeah.

that is so that was like one of the. first ones that really i've had. sebastian on it so he's good he's. awesome fascinating yeah amazing very. jordan peterson i freaking love that guy. sebastian is so um. so real like that that is who that guy i. mean obviously when he filmed restrepo. and he's he's been involved in. reporting from a lot of like very. hostile and dangerous places he's seen a. lot of things and. his insight into the camaraderie that. soldiers share with each other is so. unique and that book really does a.

fantastic job of highlighting that and. expressing that this is like a natural. part of people yeah and that we have so. much history of that kind of life like. there's more history of people being at. war than there is people not being at. war. there's zero history of that. i don't think we've heard. humanity it's crazy we're not i mean we. don't want to look at that but if you. really objectively look at what happens. when you go tribal that's what happens. you get to this [ __ ] point where you. have to be at war everybody's at war. with everybody else all the time all.

throughout history there's not one time. in history. you know where everybody just said hey. let's be cool. that's pretty sad that might be possible. though but i think it's only going to be. possible if we stop being people and i. think that's inevitable anyway i think. it's going to become the next thing it's. a. agreeable truth that tribes will always. exist. but how do we get the tribes not. necessarily though i think i think there. could be a tribe of earth but it's got. to get to we need to. it's it's we're going to become them i. think that's what's going to happen i.

really do something's going to happen i. think that's what's happening with i. mean if you look at. there's there's a real problem with. humans right now with uh contamination. from plastic. and uh that was highlighted by this. woman dr shanna swann who wrote this. book countdown which is terrifying was. she the one found in microplastics on. both sides of the uh woman i don't know. if she's the one who found that but. she's the one who did the studies on. phthalates. phthalates are chemicals that come from. plastics that are directly attributed to. a changing of the child in the womb so.

when the mother has a lot of phthalates. in her system. it shrinks the penis eye shrinks to. testicle size shrinks sperm counts and. there's like a direct correlation when. her her research highlights and she's. legit is she from harvard where's she. from. she's like brilliant and really fun like. really fun lady she's hilarious like on. her um like she talks about the. reduction in sperm counts so on her. instagram page she has a thing called. the jizz quiz. [Laughter]. so she makes it fun she's a fun lady but. she's also a brilliant scientist.

okay she's the one of the world's. leading environmental and reproductive. epidemiologist and a professor of. environmental medicine and public health. at the ikahon school of medicine at. mount sinai in new york city and where'd. she get her education from. either way. so they were finding those microplastics. on both sides of the. the wall in a room. they were finding microplastics in the. fetus and in the mother in really large.

quantities the book is terrifying yeah. by the way it's terrifying. because it's essentially saying that. we're gonna become those aliens we're. gonna be these genderless weird bodies. with no testosterone like it seems like. there's a reduction in testosterone. that's apparent because of these. plastics but also just as disturbingly. women seem to have more miscarriages. than ever before and they think that. that's also correlated to this uh. chemical exposure to plastics and. microplastics we found out we did we. were talking about the other day like we. were guessing because we remembered that.

a certain amount of time passes and. you've eaten a credit card worth of. plastic jamie thought it was a year i. thought it was a month it's a [ __ ]. week one week one week are you kidding. every week the average human being eats. a credit card sized piece of plastic. because you consume so many. microplastics in so many different. things. we're just and it's in our bloodstream. yeah it's and it's also it does all. sorts of weird stuff to your hormones. it's terrible for you and it's. inevitable like we're all eating. and it's like we're all drinking water.

out of. water bottles and heating things up. microwaves that are covered in plastic. and all that [ __ ] is leaking into food. and this woman is saying like hey this. is new data and i believe was it 2013. when they published that jamie do you. remember where it was 2015 maybe that's. craziness the the phthalates study where. they finally realized that this was. they could make a direct correlation in. mammals and then also in they could see. it in human beings but in mammals they. know that if you introduce phthalates. into the the the woman when she has a.

baby 2009 okay so in 2009 they figured. this out. and so that's not that long ago man you. know 13 years ago they're just going. holy [ __ ] we're messing around we're. [ __ ] because there's there's a direct. correlation between the in the. introduction of petrochemical products. and these phthalates and then this. decrease in penis size decrease in taint. size your taint shrinks up no way yeah. that's crazy one of the best ways to. determine male versus female in um like.

a baby mammal is the size of the taint. male stain is 50 to 100 larger than the. females wow so when their taints are. shrinking on the males and the penises. are shrinking the balls are shrinking. and they find phthalates they're like oh. my god something's going on so it's what. you think about what society is right. it's filled with plastic the more. technologically advanced we get the more. we have plastic this and plastic that. microchips and silicon that. what that stuff's getting into our. bodies yeah and that stuff is making us. become genderless we're slowly but. surely going to become that weird. [ __ ] alien with the big head and no.

genitals we're gonna turn into. seeing through walls and reading each. other's minds it's coming. i can't read thoughts no i mean that. that's probably our future. that's not so i think this uh literally. the thing about people being accepting. now is good but they're not accepting of. other people's opinions there there's. there's like a desire today to shut down. other people's opinions. and to. i mean are you do you identify as. conservative are you like what would you. would you say your political leanings.

libertarian libertarian i mean i'm 100. independent in the fact that i never. vote along party party lines i don't. care what party you are i will look at. the person. are they honest and have some integrity. and what's their voting record you know. what are their policies right and that's. who i vote on right and i think that's. another one of the problems we have in. america it's people just stick to the. parties yeah the party isn't always. right it's not always the best candidate. but it's kind of i don't think parties. they if they identify as conservative. yeah they take a rash of [ __ ] it's very. but there isn't that that old expression.

you know find me a young man who's a. conservative and i'll find you a man. without a heart find me an old man who's. a liberal and i'll find you a man. without a brain. yeah. yeah but i don't think that's real. either it's like you could be liberal. but you got to be a pragmatist like you. can i'm both i'm liberal in a lot of. ways but i'm very conservative when it. comes to fiscal responsibility and. actual individual. responsibility and accountability like i. think that's one of the big problems we. have also is that nobody's nobody's.

responsible for anything nobody's. accountable there's and then it's also. not my fault it's their fault the the. life that you lived where you were a. seal is all about accountability. yeah. i mean uh like jocko says extreme. ownership yeah always if i messed up i'm. gonna tell you i messed up that's how i. will pay the consequences that's so. contrary to if i mess up punch me in the. face yeah you know but that takes. that's hard that's a hard life right and. a lot of people want that soft cushy. life yeah you know they'd rather be body.

positive. [Music]. so i was like i was that. so i still ride a motorcycle and i'm in. a club and if i still hang around a lot. with the clubs and stuff and uh so i was. at this other motorcycle club hanging. out with these guys. and i did some there was this one area. where it was like club members only but. i had something back there that i had to. grab and so i i. poked my head in a little bit and i said. hey can i grab and the guy was like. you're not allowed back here i was like. oh [ __ ] all right hey i [ __ ] up man. whatever i got to do to pay the. consequences you know go ahead if you. got to punch me in the face or really or.

punch me in a gut you know i'll take the. punishment if whatever punishment you. guys usually what do you give each other. and i was like at 25 fine i was all. right here we go oh that's so but the. thing is it's like. that's what you got to do it's like if i. screwed up it's like hey i messed up man. what's my payment what's my payment yeah. don't ever tell me don't let him punch. you i did [ __ ] out of here. but if he did pantry he would have broke. my jaw because the dude is like a. [ __ ] mom you don't want anybody. punching you just for opening that door. that's ridiculous yeah.

but the rules are girls you know yeah. well i mean i see what you're saying but. yeah accountability it was extreme it's. it's just like i was being extreme. because i was a little [ __ ] up too. discipline is something that one of the. things that i love about guys like. goggins and jocko is like they they. preach from the altar of discipline and. discipline equals freedom is one of my. favorite jocko quotes yeah and it's such. a great quote because it's true if you. have discipline you have more freedom. you have you get the things done you're. also not as haunted yeah you know when. you when you have discipline and you get. stuff done those things don't [ __ ] with.

your head like i know people that are. putting stuff off and they don't oh. eventually and then that stuff [ __ ]. with your head it's always hanging over. your ass always it's always hanging over. there like when you had this thing where. you felt like you were a woman and you. wanted to express that and it's hanging. over your head you're not doing it like. it's probably occupying. always yeah with every thought right. yeah it's like a noise. it takes away a lot yeah that's why it's. so important for people to be themselves. like someone who lives a life where they.

wish they were doing something else god. that's a torturous existence yeah you. can't be in the moment you can never be. in the moment never be in a moment yeah. you're always haunted but it's the only. place you can be most effective if. you're in the moment yeah yeah and i was. i was pretty effective though as a sale. i mean i was a good one i did a good job. well i think that's so. overwhelmingly difficult that like it. forces you to completely focus on that. one thing yeah so maybe in some ways. it's like a therapy. just like you were saying earlier about. people that get all that money and don't.

work so they're not doing anything yeah. so when i was in the seals and shooting. and doing stuff i would get into the. flow and get in the groove and you've. probably been in a flow a few times when. you're like when you're fighting or. you're training. and a lot of people don't know what the. flow feels like no but if you have that. job and you're so dedicated to that job. in your practice and you get it you get. the flow and that's the most in the. moment and the most free and the most. amazing feeling you ever had when you're. in the flow but you only get there. through work you only get there through. this difficulty through discipline yeah.

and practice discipline practice. and i think those things have to be. difficult yeah like when you're full. like if you're in the middle of. something that's really hard to do. that's one of the things that i really. love about archery archery is difficult. so like when you're drawn on that bow. and you're in position you can't think. of anything else yeah the same thing. with tools when you're making a shot and. you're playing pool all you're thinking. about is making that cue ball collide. perfectly with that ball and knock it in. the hole that's the same with jiu jitsu. when someone's trying to strangle you. you're not thinking about anything other.

than getting out of this [ __ ] choke. you're not thinking oh god i gotta clean. the garage. you're getting [ __ ] up you're getting. [ __ ] up that's all you can think of. and that in a way is cleansing you know. and that in a way like any kind of. extreme diff like a lot of my friends. that do like ultra marathons and [ __ ]. they'll tell me that like when that's. over they don't have a care in the world. oh yeah like they that is so hard that. everything else is nothing it was like. every time we finished a mission we. don't sit around it'd be like dawn. because we'd finish always like vampire. hours we'd finish at five a.m or six a.m.

and then we all sit around and smoke. cigars yeah sit around a bonfire smoke. cigars talk about the mission and you. probably that was like the most you. earned that relaxation it was the best. that's why i don't smoke cigars anymore. because it kind of does bring up some. other memories and. i just i don't i get it as much yeah but. uh in those days man it really was it. was a flow like. this was in my mind but. in the seals when i would when i got in. that flow when you're doing the stuff i. didn't think about anything it was just. it was pure seal yeah i think a lot of.

people use very very difficult pursuits. as a form of therapy as a form of like. understanding who they are but you find. yourself through hard things. that's why i like when i would tell. people just do something difficult i'm. telling you i know you don't want to but. it's good for you. but the problem is also people don't. like people telling them what to do so. when someone is telling you to do. difficult things like [ __ ] you i'm gonna. smoke weed and play video games and you. think you're being a rebel but you're. really [ __ ] yourself over like you. really should do whatever you want to do.

but you should want to do something. difficult because if you do you'll be. better off your life will be more. interesting it's more like. there's a part of being a human where we. like solving problems and we like. getting better at stuff whether it's. getting better at writing all right. let's get her better at playing music. whatever the [ __ ] your thing is. yeah we like to improve it stuff it's it. and why it doesn't make sense it doesn't. have to make sense trust that there is a. thing that you can do that makes you. happier yeah and one of those things is. work hard it sounds crazy but and.

physically work hard you need to do. something physical something whether. it's go on hikes do some push-ups take a. yoga class you need something that makes. your body drain itself of extra [ __ ]. yeah. and that's like hot cold baths like rudy. reyes did you ever have rudy reyes on. the show no i have not dude it's awesome. you got to try to get him someday what. does rudy reyes do he's a marine corps. sniper and he's uh started a project. called project blue something. cleaning the ocean up and building reefs. oh okay he's a super like athlete he.

does a lot of meditation and mindfulness. the guy's just like he's a really good. solid. physical. like goggins but he also gets really. deep into the spiritual and the. mindfulness of like stuff well i'll. reach out the dude is a good dude okay. you really have a good time with him on. the show that sounds good he uh and. that's something i've been working on a. lot also as mindfulness i have a. non-profit called mindful valor and it's. it's a military non-profit trying to.

help with this whole thing with a 22 a. day and all the other stuff what's 22 a. day 22 suicides per day taking our own. life out of veterans is 22 a day now i. think it's more than that so i think. they mess with the numbers but it's a. lot it's a lot when you look at the. numbers i mean if it was 10 a day it's. still a lot of fabric i know for a fact. that well i don't know for a fact i've. read it that more people died in. suicides that were veterans than in. combat duty yes in afghanistan. definitely that's crazy way more that's. crazy yeah. but it's something that i've been. working on a lot and i think it's.

something that rudy works on there's a. dakota meyer there's a lot a lot of good. veterans out there that are working on. projects to try to help other veterans. get through this it's the transition. from civilian to military it's a. transition from a combat mindset to a. peace mindset also there's a lot going. on in our heads that we need to figure. out i don't think we've fully figured it. out is there coaching when you get out. like is there anybody that gives you any. sort of guidelines and how to there is.

but it's really hard to find and i think. it's hit and miss and it's only if. you're in that pipeline i think the. seals and sf guys i think we have some. really good avenues but i don't think. there's a lot for everybody else um a. friend of mine who was a seal told me. that seals experience ptsd less because. they're proactive versus reactive he. said the people that experience it the. most are the people that are locked down. in a place where they're under fire and. they feel helpless and they feel trapped. and they develop these uh these. tendencies more often and he was saying. with seals also that they're very high.

functioning very disciplined people who. can adapt that they're a little bit. better off at doing it but then there's. also physical things like we were. talking about you know uh. tbis yeah like tbis absolutely. bad tbi i'm sure yeah most soldiers do. do you know about the warrior angel. foundation have you uh heard about their. work. there's a there's a couple of. foundations there's one that was working. with tbi specifically whether yeah the. things on your head well andrew marr and. um uh. my friend dr mark gordon they they put.

together this foundation. a lot of it they're dealing with the. fact that so many veterans come back. that have experienced a lot of impacts. whether it's. you know breaches or any you know ieds. they develop endocrine problems because. their pituitary gland gets damaged and. so so many of these guys are super. depressed because their testosterone. stop production i got to look into that. yeah they're they're also the growth. hormone a lot of things are way off. because the you know that we find that. in fighters too yeah uh the um impacts.

yeah football players the the impacts. they destroy your endocrine system oh. yeah and so they're so sad they're just. like super depressed and then you're. dealing with tbi on top of that and and. cte yeah which is so prep it's so. prevalent in people that you would never. expect it in it's one of the things. we're finding about fighters yeah like. cte is super prevalent they're just. barely starting to admit that this. exists yes and so we need more studies. on it we need more information because. the tvi definitely messes me up and my. girlfriend will tell you like i just.

stuff that she tells me and i'm like i. don't remember it i'm sure it's also. that's cool isn't it yeah it's really. good. i use it sometimes don't tell her. baby i've been hitting the head so much. i don't remember [ __ ] she's like. [ __ ] i heard your podcast you. remember everything tvi yeah it's tbi. it's um i mean. they say people get tbi from [ __ ] uh. jet skis. mark gordon was telling me that you know. you don't realize that just if you're. jet skiing every weekend your brain is. rattling around your [ __ ] especially. if you like uh i see these crazy dudes.

on the lake that jump over other. people's wakes and they're like. all that stuff is your brain rattling in. your head and you don't think you're. getting hit but your brain thinks you're. getting hit oh yeah doesn't know the. difference soccer players get it but the. physical stuff like you said was like a. really big thing and that's what i'm. doing with my non-profit is we do. forging so i make knives oh nice so i. have the forward anvils and all the. stuff and i find a bunch of i invite a. bunch of veterans in and then we sit. there and we make knives do you sell. them. i do. a little bit do you have a website or.

anything uh the website is. mindfulvalor.com oh and the knives are. on the website as well or knives because. i only basically what i do is i find. somebody i say hey uh this is for a. non-profit uh give me what you think a. non-profit it's for fundraising okay and. so. the entire nonprofit nobody makes salary. nobody makes any money off it if i sell. anything it's to give money all hundred. percent back to the nonprofit and that's. how i'm doing it i gave one to rob. o'neal and i gave one to a couple other. seal team guys oh nice and then they. sent some money in for the non-profit so.

are you like uh do you have the like the. whole deal where you forge the metal and. hammer it down all that [ __ ] oh [ __ ]. yeah i can show you some videos that's. wild it's pretty fun there's this kid. who sent me a hatchet once uh camp axe. it's hoffman blacksmith go to hoffman. hoffman yeah i think i have one of his. hammers yeah he sent me uh a like a camp. axe it's pretty dope but john hoffman is. it jay hoffman something. because i have one of his hammers the. guy is awesome. jamie pulls it up but his he was a young.

guy at the time i think he was like. really early 20s he sent me this a long. time ago and that's it hoffman. blacksmithing so uh. liam hoffman i have one of his hammers. so if you go down scroll down a little. bit you'll see some videos of him see. there he is there's his axes and [ __ ]. there's videos of him doing it oh no no. a different guy that's not the same. hoffman oh okay so they're taking these. things and then slamming them in this. press and then they hammer them down. it's pretty dope man it's really that's. i love watching people make [ __ ] i.

really do it's so interesting that's. what i was in the sale teams i was one. of the makers. so whenever they do the uh. all those inventions and all that weird. seal team new stuff look how they always. bring me in for the for those inventions. and wild [ __ ] man that's how they're. they're getting the hole in the center. where the axe handle goes through this. is [ __ ] cool it's drifting the hall. yeah so i i love watching [ __ ] like this. i mean this is see that's what we do. bring in all those veterans and then we. make a bunch of knives and we sit there. around a bonfire that's good and it.

usually lasts about two days. and then uh jim hoffman that's the guy i. was thinking of oh different guy yeah. it's got to be so satisfying to do. something with a a utensil whether. you know an item like a an axe or. whether it's a um a knife something that. you made yourself yeah that's pretty. [ __ ] cool. that's really interesting. i'm just i love watching people create. things i think there's there's something. about a human being and creating things. that's like so satisfying whether you're.

making a house or furniture like there's. a video i watched the other day of some. guy making a very small log cabin in the. woods oh yeah those are awesome it's. amazing i'm like why am i loving this so. much i'm loving this guy making a cabin. it's like i think i i saw it on dig and. it said that it was like oddly. satisfying like yeah it is oddly. satisfying. like what's what is going on with people. what are these. what are your knives. yeah i was going to show you some of us. when we're doing it do you know andrew. would have faced blades.

no i don't half face blades is a dope. company that uh is also run by a seal. and uh he makes killer um like kitchen. knives. chef's knives hunting knives he makes. really killer [ __ ] and it has his uh. half face blades logo on it. so here's my girlfriend i'm trying to. teach her how to make a knife oh wow. but that's in my that's in my shop. that's [ __ ] cool there's something. really cool about watching that hot red. medal too. right.

but i got a bunch of those videos of us. doing this you got to come up for one of. the events that sounds interesting where. do you do that oh here i'm making a. sword oh [ __ ]. i have her holding the sword and now i'm. doing a hammer well let me ask you this. so that's a that's a full-on broadsword. that's a bastard sword big old. broadsword it's a cool sword have you. ever watched like those uh videos of the. japanese masters creating. yeah how are they doing though what is. the deal with the folding why does the. folding help can you tell me that well a. lot of times when they're folding. they're folding in different types of.

metal so they're actually able to do a. softer and harder metal then you. actually sandwich it's called. a messing up that word tbi. so they actually fold a lot of the soft. metal into the spine and then you have. the harder metal down more towards where. the edge is because then you can have. that hard metal you can get super super. sharp. but it's very brittle too that if you. have it sandwiched around uh. softer i almost had softer then it gives. you the ability to kind of move and flex. so just have to worry about this.

oh yeah because that's what they're. trying to do is they're trying to have. the soft and then the hard metal just on. the edge then you can't dull it that's. so super sharp that's an argument with. uh broadheads for for arrows too for. archery yeah because there's some. broadheads that they make of really hard. metal but it breaks yeah when it hits. bone yeah where other. bend around the because they're kind of. yeah they'll wiggle around the bone and. some people have started to prefer those. yeah so i make my like my skin and. knives the skin and knives aren't that. big it has a blade about that big real. small and so to skin a knife you want to.

be super sharp because you're in the. field you don't want to worry about. dulling even if it's a bone you want to. be super sharp but if you drop one of my. skin and knives i don't know if i have a. concrete it's going to shatter oh wow. because what i do is i harden it to such. a high rockwell hardness it's like a 90. something it's crazy hard but it won't. dull it's going to be super sharp skin. so you just have to be real careful. about it just don't just don't drop it. so it's just like those ceramic blades. if you drop one of those it's going to. shatter. you know so just be careful with your. tool and use it for what it's meant for. don't use it as a fighting knife this is.

only for skinning now if i gave you a. fighting knife i would have like an. extra thick spine it's like one of the. ones i gave rob o'neal is like a camp. knife it's not a fighting knife because. i made an extra thick spine this thing. is heavy it weighs like six pounds but i. made it so you can chop wood you can. split wood with this thing you can chop. a tree down oh wow you can take another. cut another thing you can hit the back. of the knife to drive through a piece of. metal if you want. so it's very versatile it's it's a camp. knife it's not made for carrying in the. woods or carrying around as a combat.

knife because it's too heavy for combat. so it does a bunch of different things. you can tell you if you use your tool. for what the tool is made for it's going. to be great performance but if you use. it for something else it's probably. going to suck like one of my camp knives. if i gave it to a marine corps guy he. called a piece of crap because it's not. a fight knife he's start trying to use. it to fight knife and switching around. it's too heavy it's clunky it's this net. it's not made for that dude right it's. made for chopping trees down it's made. for chopping a cable or a piece of metal. or yeah it's made to screw it up yeah.

you know and then re-sharpen it. no big deal but isn't it interesting how. people get so excited about it. tools. like like we're talking about this yeah. yeah yeah we're watching them hammer the. axe down down yeah yeah there's. something about that that's like it's. deeply satisfying to human beings to. watch people create tools yeah you know. it probably speaks to our past you know. probably primitive man yeah i mean when. when you know there's this uh guy uh j.m. whitworth we pulled up his page before. he's got a um a place out here in texas.

and a huge ranch and they sift through. the dirt they have this very like. uh sophisticated method of finding. arrowheads oh cool and they found a [ __ ]. ton of them he sent me a couple of them. they're really cool but they're like. these. like. like look at this look at this one right. here no way perfect. so these these arrowheads that they're. finding are amazing and they're all like. you got to think like how much. craftsmanship is involved look how they.

found that there how much craftsmanship. was involved in making look at so that. he finds this. look at that one man look how delicate. that is that's incredible and look it's. perfect look how you can see through. when he holds it up to the light. it kind of makes you wonder why are. there so many out there well because the. comanches roll roman land shoot news. this is the hill the thing about the. hill country and this is uh i i found. this out originally from reading um. uh empire the summer moon.

which is this incredible book about the. history of the texas plains and the. comanches and now the comanches they. they roam this area specifically because. there's so much resources with the lake. and the river and the colorado river. goes through it's rich with wildlife a. lot of texas is desert right a lot of. texas is just flat and there's not a lot. out there but here it was so rich with. life that they were they're out here all. the time in the hill country so they. find a [ __ ] load of their hour hats. because this was like a special place. hunt ground yeah but it's also like so.

hilly it's so different than any other. place in texas it's very different a lot. of texas is flat but this is like all. these beautiful hills and everything's. green it rains all the time and all that. [ __ ] contributes to wildlife and so it. was a a rich area for them to settle in. so they couldn't come out and find some. of that oh my god it must be amazing to. actually dig into the ground and find. one yeah i found one once man when i was. on a hunting trip in nevada i found a. small piece of an arrowhead and i. [ __ ] lost it i don't know what. happened i put it somewhere and i. [ __ ] lost it that's like for the seal.

team guys when we find shark teeth. yeah yeah good one crazy thing is when. you see a megalodon tooth you go what. the [ __ ] is that. and they're always fossilized right. they're all mineralized so they're. they're black and it's just big ass i. keep finding these 20-foot tall giant. skeletons everywhere. [Music]. [Laughter]. if that was real do you really think the. smithsonian would destroy them no but. why are there so many news articles on. it and all these newspapers they believe. in gobbling. probably just as many news articles.

about witches they're very i was going. to say they're vernon witches. there's a giant a few years ago they. were burning witches now they're writing. about giants that's a lot of stuff that. i think about i don't always 100. believe but i do want to look into it. because if there was in the newspapers. that many times there's got to be. something i am i just want to know stuff. that's what that's my same feeling about. like bigfoot and ufos i my problem is i. want them to be real so bad yeah yeah. that i don't look at it objectively and. what's that bias that's a confirmation. bias yeah but it's also it's just.

you. want you want a very specific thing out. of the data yeah and so you look for. that and then you argue it but now i. fight against that in myself so when i. get all balls deep in in ufos then i. have to back off go wait a minute joe. what are you doing you're believing this. because you want it to be real that's. confirmation bias and uh there's a whole. bunch of biases that we do that we want. that to be true so bad that we cherry. pick the data to make it true yeah. that's about i know i do that i know i. have tons of biases and i try not to.

again i commend you on your honesty. because we all do and it's it's. important to be able to say that and. people don't like the idea of them being. incorrect or holding ideas like i told. you about that stupid [ __ ] thing that. i was obsessed with for god it was at. least a year the worms the worms i can't. see this because it's so stupid i do. laugh at me. find a flying rod. one time i was doing this thing for the. ufc and i was doing a question and. answer thing at one of the weigh-ins and. this guy who was the guy who made that. documentary waited in [ __ ] line to.

tell me that his rods thing was real and. you're wrong joe rogan they're really. out there i'm like. dude they have video that shows the. things. right next to the same camera that that. shows no thing it shows bugs like they. know for a fact that one camera which is. very fast camera can see the bugs in in. and catch them in their motion the other. one blurs it yeah it's a video artifact. that's what they look like look at that. i like that like that right there what. is it flying rods skyfish a moth so you.

see it in slow motion see how it flies. through oh yeah you'd say oh my god you. would say there's there's rods with. wings they're flying through the air but. no that's just a video artifact it's a. bug with wings and it flies by and you. see it and you think that it's you know. an alien well that's moving too fast for. your eyes i was reading and i can't. remember who's made this quote but he. was quoting that if it was sufficient. high enough technology. it would appear to be magic yes yeah and. so the problem with that technology was. it was high enough technology to catch.

the bug but only partly caught it so it. looked like magic exactly but then when. you get a higher attack that actually. catches the fog that's like more magic. and so what what do we have going on. right now in the universe. that we can't figure out that we are. calling magic we're just waiting for the. technology to catch up for us to realize. what it really is which is probably what. that gravity drive thing thing is if bob. lazar's telling the truth or if we if. the tic tac people are being. accurate with what they're seeing that. thing that just punches through space. and time that's probably operating in.

that way whether it's ours or someone. from another dimension or another galaxy. or whatever whatever the [ __ ] it is. that's doing that or the magic of the. pyramids yeah there's so much stuff out. there we still don't know and i just i. wish science would be more honest with. itself i don't think they're being. dishonest about the pyramids i mean they. never say we know how they made it they. say these people made it they were. highly skilled and they had incredible. ability to align things and they did it. and they did it five thousand years ago. with [ __ ] no explanation how come. they're not. around them to try to figure out what.

all the subway tunnels are below the. pyramids. they're not. it doesn't it seems like they stopped. didn't they stop well there's a guy. that's in charge of all that stuff down. there this guy zawi hawas and he's very. reluctant to accept any alternative. theories other than the ones they've. been promoting forever yeah and so. graham hancock has had issues with him. as has robert shock dr robert chalk from. boston university he was with the. geologist that examined the temple the. sphinx and was saying that there's water. erosion here redoing the sphinx.

no no it's the outside it's the the. temple of the sphinx is these giant. blocks and these giant blocks they have. real evidence of water erosion but. didn't they prove also the sphinx was so. much older than they thought well so it. changed all the time they don't. necessarily know but but the evidence. shows that there is. something that looks exactly like water. erosion according to geologists so. they're looking at like yeah. there's people that dis dispute this i.

should say this is very important to say. but they don't seem to be. the there's a there's a denial of the. reality of what you're looking at like. if you look at like see if you can pull. up a video of water erosion in the. sphinx the images are so interesting. because it really does look like what. something would look like if water cut. through it like there's a smoothness to. it and it goes in these fissures that. look but the last time there was water. in the nile valley was 9 000 years ago. so if that's true then it has to be. thousands of years of water to create. this so if dr robert shock from boston.

university who is a geologist is correct. that all that erosion is caused by. thousands of years of rainfall which. means that thing is way older than they. think it is because that means that. those stones were cut somewhere. earlier than 9 000 years ago because it. had to be thousands of years of rainfall. to create that so because of the fact. they know that during that time. that there was rainfall it used to be. like a tropical rainforest down there. which is also really interesting right. like the sahara desert desert used to be.

a [ __ ] giant forest it used to be. incredible castles and cities all over. probably right what about all the. pyramids in china. oh yeah that's two too there's a lot of. pyramids in china that we can't even. look at well china itself i mean think. about the fact that they've been around. that's one continually operating. business it's pretty goddamn impressive. pretty wild. and they've been around for. how long six thousand years or something. i don't know crazy 50 000 years crazy. but there are a lot of pyramids in china.

that we're not even allowed to look at. there's no archaeology there's no digs. there's no nothing going on they just. shut it down how about when they do. these digs and they find like a whole. porcelain army. that's awesome that is wild [ __ ] yeah. you found like thousands and i would do. that why did they do that like look at. that they buried those doesn't even make. sense. like chinese ancient pyramids reveal. their stunning secrets fox news and it's. this is all these um fox news i can't. believe that yeah they're a bunch of. liars. look at that that's like these these. trenches filled with these.

soldiers that are made out of porcelain. it's wild. and look at that man think about the. money [ __ ] crazy manpower look at how. many of them there are. imagine discovering this. they must have been like what the [ __ ]. are we looking at and i was like why. i don't know man like can you imagine. the manpower and the amount of money. involved in making just one of those. guys i know i know. i wonder how they found him for the. first time.

it's just the the human the history of. the human race is so fascinating and you. know graham hancock has this amazing. saying that i think is pretty accurate. he says. that we're a species with amnesia. and i think there's only so much that we. have written down that we can 100. percent rely on when it gets when you. get back to like 4 000 years ago 5 000. years ago this stuff gets super blurry. it's just guessing does your dog have to. pee we've been in here quite a. while it's pretty cool that you have. this dog that's that trained it's really.

interesting how long have you had him. i've had him for about two years. he's so well behaved and so. so you he like he's focused on you. he doesn't give a [ __ ] about me we have. a training group that trains all the. other service dogs like that it's in. florida and uh it's run by a purple. heart recipient. and so for a lot of the veterans and. purple heart recipient you get pretty. high on the list if you want a service. dog that he does it's another non-profit. it's probably nice like i work with a. whole bunch of non-profits they're all.

veteran focused and the thing is i talk. to people that say hey who do we donate. to you know wounded warrior or is that. one of them yeah yeah it's those really. big ones i said don't donate to the big. ones i said what you need to do is you. need to find one of the smaller ones in. your local area so you're keeping your. donation local and you're given to a. local charity that you look at and make. sure they're a-rated by that group that. rates all the non-profits and make sure. it's a small one that their overhead is. like they don't pay their employees. because we're all non-profit if you do.

pay your employees it's not a 200 000. ceo salary like wounded warrior and all. those other guys do. find a local non-profit i said there's. tons of them out there you know there's. that one in florida i know off it's. called valor k9 then you have ones. called you know in new york there's a. bunch of them san francisco you have. plows to source the plowshares there's. so many great small nonprofits within. your community within your city that's. who you should give the money to. because they get to those big national. ones all the money goes to overhead you. know it's just like if you want to help.

out you really want to help out veterans. find a local non-profit. you know don't give me nothing don't. give it away or anything find your own. that you can support well kristen we've. been doing this for three hours i know i. didn't know that isn't that wild yeah we. flew through. i'm glad we did this it was really cool. i really was like a really big thing. that we wanted to talk about though was. probably about the transgender athletes. we did it we talked about what was i. think was there anything else that was. like anything so we could do this again. definitely do it again i really enjoyed. it and i think it's uh.

it's cool for people like you have a. very unique perspective you know. becoming a seal and then transitioning. while you're you know in civilian life. working as a contractor and explaining. all this is very. it's very valuable for people to hear. and your honesty like i said you really. should be commended because it's hard. it's hard to be. it's hard to just just open yourself up. to people like the way you have but i. think you've done a lot of people a. great justice by doing that because it. helps you i think you do i think i. really do i think it helps people it.

also like. there's a lot of people that really. really respect veterans and really. really respect seals and they might be. like hesitant to accept transgender. people so from hearing it from you like. they have to respect you as a seal and. then they go well maybe i'm wrong about. this and maybe they'll allow them to be. more open-minded and there's not there's. no weakness in being open-minded there's. strength. it's good for everybody and there's no. weakness in in like compromise and i. think that's one of the things we have. wrong with our politicians right now is. none of them will compromise yeah well.

it's just we got to like find ways to. like you said be cool. that's probably the best way to end yes. hey commencement. and uh tell everybody your social media. where's the is it what's your website. like what's the best way to to get a. hold of you or to see your stuff so all. of my social media is all the same tag. it's valor for us. v-a-l-o-r the number four u.s. and uh that's on twitter and instagram. and facebook if you find valor for us. that's gonna be me.

all right um thank you thanks for doing. this i'm glad we did it it was a lot of. fun i really enjoyed it and let's do it. again after four years yeah we'll do it. again okay okay. thank you bye everybody thanks. [Music]. [Applause]. [Music].