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A lot of girls I ask I say, "Have you. cheated? Have you cheated? Have you. cheated?" Very common answer I've been. getting is, "We don't cheat, but we're. cheat backers.". >> I wouldn't. I would just want full. access to the black card, >> bro. Same. >> Ladies and gentlemen, WELCOME TO. [screaming] TIME. [music]. >> I can't sing, but welcome to the show, babies. Ladies and gentlemen, WELCOME. BACK TO YOUR FAVORITE PODCAST, Pillow. Talk. I'm your host Ryan Powell. THE.

NUMBER ONE ADULT SHOW IN THE WORLD. BACKTO BACK W'S BABY [laughter] GIRL. WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR. BIG SHOW TODAY. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST. EXCITING shows of the year. If not the, it's a unique one. It's a great one. This is the Avengers Endgame OF. PODCASTING. THIS [ __ ] HERE, this table, this knowledge, this [ __ ] This is the. system. They know everything. We know. what the [ __ ] is up. We're going to. discuss it. We're going to debate it. We're going to give every perspective.

because we got every genius of their own. domain in the [ __ ] building. Kicking. off on my right. I am a huge fan. This guy is honestly top three of my. content creators in the world. THAT. INCLUDES LIKE speed and [ __ ] This dude, I love his content. He's just always. [ __ ] right. I'm like, "Yeah, yes, yes. I watch your videos all day. I love. your [ __ ] This Jake Abdill. >> Thank you. >> Unbelievable,

>> my man. >> Wow. >> I agree with that. >> No. Loud. Come on, S. [laughter]. >> I agree with me. I agree with I agree. with the things that I say. [laughter] I. I concur. Rock and roll. >> This girl here, she got Let's just call. it what it is. This is the most popular. girl in LA, bro. >> I can tell. >> She's that girl. How do you know if. you're at the party or not? Was Brandy. Burr there, bro? >> If Randy Bur is not there, you're at the. beta party. You know what I'm saying? Go. find where Bry's at. Honestly, getting. your location was like a big Yes.

[laughter]. Now I know where where this shit's. happening, you know? >> Oh, this is where Beaver and Michael. Jackson are tonight. You know what. [laughter] I mean? >> I love this girl. We've been friends. since I moved here. Loved you forever. She's one of the best girls. Well, she's the most plug girl in LA, I'd say. She's got the connections. She. knows what's Gucci. Everyone loves her. You're the [ __ ] She's huge on OF. She's. great on social media. This is Brandy. Burr.

[applause]. [cheering]. >> Love Brandy B. You look great. >> A thanks. >> What'd you do? You're tanned. >> I'm very tan right now. I'm not going to. lie. Yeah, very tan. >> You [laughter] look very tan, Jake. >> Over here. >> First time on the show, which is. surprising cuz we've been talking about. doing it forever. Doing those swaps. skis. Can't believe we've never done it. Actually, can't believe we never went. through with it. these girls. Honestly, when we were doing Pillow Talk back in. the day and everyone started doing the. similar podcast, it was the only one.

that we liked. >> Oh, thank you. >> Facts. We always [ __ ] with Inside Only. Fans. It was always a mutual love and. respect. >> Yes. >> And people, the guests that like me. would like you and the guests that like. you would like me. >> We always had some love. >> See each other out, dap each other up, pay our respects. >> This girl here is now running the show. by herself. It was her and her friend. Kayla and she's putting it on her. [ __ ] shoulders and taking it home. Inside Only Fans, one of the greatest. shows you'll watch. Love the I love the.

direction that you guys take on the. show. It's unique and it's different. than everyone else and I love it and. people feel very comfortable talking to. you. >> Good. >> That's good. CJ Sparks, [applause]. >> thank you. It's my favorite intro ever. >> Respect. [laughter] Now, this guy, we. call him Iron Man. He's the smartest man. we know, but he's also just a genuine. great [ __ ] dude. This guy's had my. back. He's honestly one of the first. five people I call, even if I'm in. [ __ ] Alaska.

I'm like, [snorts] just get me Michael. Sartine on [laughter] the phone for. real. Above my own father. This guy is. all knowing. He's all powerful. He's the. king of Vegas. >> Let's go. >> And he runs, I think, the biggest dating. coach course in the world. It's called. Men of Action and it's He has testimony. after testimony of loser dudes getting. [laughter] laid, bro, because of this. guy. >> He does the impossible. [laughter].

>> It's unbelievable. >> He really does it. He really [ __ ]. does it. And his his perspectives, he. has balls, but then he ends up always. being right. >> This guy is the [ __ ] My boy Michael. Sar. >> Hey, I appreciate it, man. Yes, my guy. >> [ __ ] it. Right. All right. So, this is. how we're going to do it, baby. First. time ever on Pillow Talk. We got Q. cards. >> Let's go. >> So, I'm going to ask a question. I'll. start on my left and then you guys will. say something. You'll respond. And then.

second question, I'll rip it to you. Everyone ready? >> We feel good. All right. >> SHOULD YOU DATE A WOMAN WHO has an only. fans? >> That's it. Absolutely. >> All right. So the big difference here is. is she doing guy girl or she's not. For. me that is the line. Other people I have. I have friends I have clients that are. like Muslim or deeply religious and. they're like if she even you know walks. outside without you know dressed in a. certain way they don't like that. For me. my line because I host beauty pageantss. and bikini competitions. My line is guy.

girl stuff. Like that would be an. absolute no for me. So. >> well but there's a version of the guy. girl is is she [ __ ] her boyfriend? Is. she just going to want to be with your. dick? >> Right. If it's. >> or she [ __ ] girth master and dread, >> right? [laughter] That's. >> that's a different. >> Yeah, that's again, you're making my. point for me. It's like, oh, it's it's. just girth master and dread. That sounds. incredible. I don't even know that they. are, but I'm sure that sounds like a a. fun experience, but I you know, I'm. going to skip that one. Yeah. >> So, I it's not a judgmental thing. It's. just it's one of these things where the.

the other issue I think is um how does. she does she treat it like a business or. is this a function of validation? like. she needs the validation from uh I used. to manage a strip club and I remember. there were girls that would come work. and they it was like one of these things. where their entire. >> self-esteem was based on how much money. they made and when they didn't make. money they felt horrible. They were they. were sitting there for years. They could. have left and done other things, but. there was a validation that they needed. from it. And a lot of um I forgot the um. the writer, she's a she's an academic.

and she wrote this thing where it was. like women uh would get the validation. from doing things like Only Fans or. posting on social media that was the. equivalent of a men getting sex like. that those two things were equivalent. So it I think that's a a big no no. I I. dated one time I was dating a fitness. model and she never looked at her oh she. never looked at her IG. She just. basically sent in her pictures. She had. her team post it and she did not need. any validation from that. So that that's. kind of thing. And the the girl I'm. seeing now, same thing. It's like she. doesn't need validation from social. media. She just produces content and.

then that's it. >> How are we feeling, Jakey? >> I think that it's I think it's cool if. you're a bigger hoe than her. If you're. a bigger hoe than her and and [laughter]. you can like detach from it, you know. what I mean? But like like he said, if. you if she's [ __ ] guys on her Only. Fans, I'm not going to beat her. boyfriend. Like you know what? Yeah. >> Well, I I I I guess look I've dated sex. workers before and it's like okay to her. is it a job? Is it just a job? Because. at some point cuz I would date a porn. star. You know what I mean? If it was. just a job and if she didn't use it for.

validation. I have to agree with you on. that. >> Yeah. I I think the issue is though I do. think there is something evolutionary. and a man like you have there's a place. where women have men in their life and. that place goes away when you let other. men have sex with you. I just. >> I just I I think the data kind of leans. If that's more mainstream porn answer. >> Yeah. >> I'll tell you what I come across the. most. It's what kind of content did you. do you babe? First thing you got to ask. by the way girl says I do a web. All. right. And they all say the same [ __ ]. Just you know just me which is so vague.

[laughter]. >> And then you go on there. >> What does that mean? What the [ __ ] does. that mean? You know, >> but very often I come across okay well. yeah I did do tapes with my ex but like. I'm not shooting with random guys. >> That happens. That's the most common. There's a that's for some guys that's. going to be a gray area that they would. be fine with. >> People hate that. No, people a lot of. guys I know say, "Oh my god, her sucking. a dick is. >> that would be. most sexually most guys are sexually. intimidated and they they try and build. a fence around female promiscuity.".

Right? They they convert something that. they. >> can't do into something that they won't. do, right? So they they they oh, I can't. do because they're intimidated by women. But like, bro, if I [ __ ] met a chick. that kind of sucked at Oolie fans, I. would see it as like an opportunity to. like a winner. [laughter]. >> So, I'm different. So, I'm different. I'm an outlier. Most guys, 99% of guys, they're operating at a [ __ ] handicap. and they can't even deal they can't deal. with it. They can't deal with like the. stress. They're going to be stressed out. all [ __ ] day. That's all they're. going to think about.

>> I agree. I don't think that's. necessarily insecurity. I think it's. it's genetic. I think it's I think it's. evolutionary. Like [clears throat]. throughout history, >> maternity risk. >> Yes. Exactly. Throughout history, men. have the paternity uncertainty has. always been men's. Men, women always. know the child is theirs. And so, if you. think about it evolutionarily, you're. going to have a situation where there's. going to be jealousy or mateguarding. That is an evolutionary response. Even. if we have paternity uh testing, it. doesn't go away. It's 200,000 years of. homo sapiian evolution. So, like that. that kind of thing is never going to go. away. That's the issue. >> Let me explain. There's another.

question. >> Let's hear from the girls, too. >> Yeah. Yeah. Talk your [ __ ]. >> What do you think about this question? Oh, >> like do you GUYS SAY [ __ ] YOU GUYS, YOU. KNOW, WE'RE or or do you kind of see. through perspective? >> Um, I mean, I don't really. >> Has been Has dating been harder for you. guys? Has it limited your reach? >> Definitely not. >> I don't think so. A lot of guys ask me. to film with them and I'm like, "No, cuz. I I don't really do that cuz I just. don't want to like get into. >> porn stars or or like LA.". >> LA guys like. >> they want a POV talk to Yeah. They.

always ask. They're like, "Hey, can I. film?" And I'm always like, "No." So. they ask you to be the POV dick in a. video with. >> Yes, I get asked that a lot. >> And is it celebrities and millionaires. and stuff? >> No, it's like a normal guy from LA that. we see at like a party. >> Oh wow. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> I've done it. I'm POV dipped. >> Of course you have. >> Yes. I'm on I'm on Pornhub. >> Same thing. >> Tag yourself. There's a turnover. Filming is a turnover. >> No, no, no. No one knows. You don't want. it. You don't. It's a mysterious.

>> I have it bookmarked and I go check the. comments about it. [laughter]. So, you're not looking for validation, bro. >> You thought red comments, man. Have you. seen porn comments? >> Holy [ __ ] I got to shoot that [ __ ] with. a fisheye lens next time. [laughter]. >> She She brings up a great point. There's. a lot of manpare creators that, you. know, that that I deal with sometimes. and they have this belief that this. woman's going to do OF and then no one's. going to choose her. No, no, no, no. Men. have never been in a more desperate. situation than they are now. It doesn't.

matter what you do. A man, and I said. this before it happened, a man will get. on his knee and propose to Bonnie Blue. and he will be annoy he'll be he'll have. something wrong with him. Don't get me. wrong, but but he he will propose her. It's like the only thing that is growing. faster than the virtual sex economy or. the only fans economy is the simp. economy. Like these men, there's just so. many of them. And the virtual nature of. the world is always harder for men than. women because women don't need men need. validation from sex. Women don't need it. as much as men do. And women can get.

validation virtually whereas men they. have to go out and meet people. And so. that on top of the fact that women are. about one to two years ahead of men. emote as far as emotional intelligence. is concerned. So you'll notice like. women mature about. >> isn't it like seven years? >> No, it's it's it's almost closer. They. they just have to deal with more high. pressure high pressure social. situations. dealing with mature men and. all, you know, like they're they're. introduced into a more mature world very. very early. >> like like Brandy and CJ were approached. by more men in their life before they.

turned 21 than we have been approached. by women. >> They had the opportunity to literally be. mentored by older men waiting. [laughter]. It depends on which podcast we're on. Mentored. Yes. [laughter]. >> ALL RIGHT. NEXT QUESTION, GUYS. GOT MY Q. CARDS. Pillow talk Q cards, baby girl. All right. Question number two is the. nice guy energy fatal or is it just. poorly executed? >> Uh you you you're the biggest hater of. the nice guy. >> It's fatal. It's it's it's you hate him. too.

>> It's purely anti it's anti-seductive. It's just anti-eductive. That's that's. that's really that's really all it is. Like and it's it's weak and it's like. it's just like weakness and it's. accommodating. It shows no courage, no. backbone and it's it literally just it's. antibody. nice. Yeah. Like what what do you define. as nice? >> Um. >> yeah, it's. you're speaking about a pushover. You're. not avoiding the point. I. >> If you're generous, you're nice to me. >> Seeking and content avoiding. Generous.

Yeah. Okay. Got it. >> Then you're nice. >> Okay. >> Yeah. You're talking about a spineless. coward. [laughter]. >> I'm talking about a person that uses. niceness to purchase attraction, right? >> Or male feminist, >> right? a guy that tries to purchase. attraction with niceness and and. kindness. >> If he's using niceness to purchase. attraction, he wouldn't be nice. He'd be. manipulative, >> right? But he presents. >> But from your standpoint, it would seem. it could seem as nice, right? Just like. someone who's bold could end up being a. narcissist. Like it but here's the. thing. Here's the ultimate issue when.

you were saying what I hate about this. I don't hate the nice guy. What I hate. is the way that there that sometimes. women will blindly say I like a guy. who's nice. not recognizing how they're. ruining men by doing this. Because. here's the issue. There's this before. sex and after sex. Imagine sex is like a. portal. Before sex, there's one law of. physics. [laughter] After sex, there's a. different law of physics. Before sex, if. you're just nice and she's not attracted. to you, it doesn't count for [ __ ] I. don't care what anybody says. I will. argue this till I'm blue in the face. A.

homeless, overweight dude comes up to. you and tells you your nails and hair. look pretty. And he's he loves your your. [ __ ] astrological sign. and the guy. reads and he's super expressive, you're. not going to be attracted to him. But if. you're super attracted to a guy and you. have great sex with him and then he asks. you about your day, yes, then that's. fine. When women are describing the. attributes they want in a man, they're. describing a man they're already. attracted to and they keep describing. these attributes. Now, men listen to the. attributes and they hear this woman say, "Well, I want a guy who's just nice. He.

reads, he buys me flowers. He's super. expressive." So, you are a dude who's. overweight with really bad teeth and. flaky a flaky scalp and you go up to a. woman and you're just like, "Hey, I I. just want to let you know I I just think. you're beautiful and I, you know, I I. find you it's teeth are [ __ ] up and. the guy is like [ __ ] twitching when. he's talking to you and he and he smells. weird and and he's sitting there having. a conversation with you and I just want. to let you know all those things that. you told me that you found attractive to. man. I'm all of those things. I'm going. to be nice. I'm going to express it. I'll go to therapy with you. I'll watch. all your favorite shows with you.

doesn't matter because those things do. not create attraction. And the opposite. is also true. >> So basically, if a girl had a genie and. made a wish, she'd be disappointed with. her exact formula. But here's [laughter]. the difference. Of course, when when you ask a woman what kind of. man she likes. In her mind, she's not. thinking of any of the invisible dudes. She's not thinking of any of the. invisible dudes. She's imagining a man. that she already has already attracted. to. [laughter]. >> Our favorite brand we've ever worked. with is Fansley. Fansley, we [ __ ]. love you. And I hope all our Pillow Talk.

fans love you, too. Everyone, if you're. not on FY, go on [ __ ] FY. It's. unbelievable what it is. Just so you. know, quick description. It's like those. other websites where a girl sells stuff. But there's a for you page. You get to. discover new girls. They get to sell. things that they can't on those sites. This is the place that everyone's going. to. Fansley is the new spot. Big news. If you go to our link.mme, you'll see a. code that gets you $20 free to spend. Now, this is big. We've never had this. Now, we finally have a promo code gives. you $20 to your wallet. If you click the. link below, it's a gift card, but it's.

only good for a thousand people. So, hurry up and go use it. Fans is the. [ __ ] IF YOU DON'T [ __ ] WITH FANS, WE. DON'T [ __ ] WITH YOU. Love you, Fancy. Let's get back to the show. >> Nice as a man, though, does not mean. that you're also entitled to sex either. So, when men say, "Well, I was nice and. it didn't work." It doesn't mean you're. entitled. >> You're correct. But what what's happened. is you what you're describing is the. result of this miscommunication. When. women keep describing the the most. attractive qual the most attractive. hobbies that women report. Anybody want. to guess what are they? >> Making them. >> No. Would that be great? No. [laughter].

Reading. Reading is the number one. I. read 60 books a year. No one gives a. [laughter] [ __ ] that I read. It is the. most ridiculous specious [ __ ] What do. you say they like or don't like reading? >> No. They don't care that women are not. attract women who are already attracted. to me like the fact that I read. Women. who are [clears throat] not attracted to. me don't give a [ __ ] that I read. What. do they like? >> They No, they like attractive quality. So, I'll give you an example. >> Fitness. >> No, for for I would say it's relevancy, competency, humor, charisma, pre-selection, social proof, access to. scarce locations, networks, resources,

and and leadership. >> Which hobbies though? Which hobbies? >> Okay. No, hold on. But it's not hobbies. My point is none of these hobbies that. they report men who can speak multiple. language play piano, gardening, astronomy, and [ __ ] nothing to do. with attraction. >> Has nothing to do with attraction. Here's the issue. I do this all the time. on my show. We'll have 10 girls on. I'll. be like, "Ladies, how many of you think. it's attractive if a man is loyal?" And. they all raise their hand because. they're like, "Yes, it's so attractive.". They're thinking whether they're. disloyal guys that they like. >> Yes. They're like, "It's so attractive. when a guy is loyal." [laughter] And. then you ask the same ladies, you're.

like, "How many of you dated a guy or. know a girl who dated a guy who wasn't. loyal?" And they all look around. confused cuz they're like, "Fuck, he. said the part you're not supposed to say. out loud." [laughter]. >> Dude, the point is the point is being. loyal isn't attractive. It's attractive. in a long-term partner, but it doesn't. the guy in the phone cam party that you. end up banging when you first met. You. didn't bang him because he was [ __ ]. loyal. You banged him because he was. ripped or because he was he was bold. I. know a girl. Oh, Suk, go ahead. >> I think loyal loyal is not attractive. and because actually it's women's. ultimate fantasy to be cucked.

>> Disagree. >> What are [laughter]. my my ex. >> Why? Okay, [laughter] I went on I went. on a break. >> I'm a woman and that is not my ultimate. fantasy. You you were right. That's. assuming that women. TAKE AGREE WITH YOU. [laughter]. >> I agree that it is a fantasy for some. women. Some women for. >> So I I [laughter] went on a break, one. month break and I made sex tapes with my. rebound girl. Got back with my girl. And. then when she went through my phone, she.

air dropped them to herself. >> Yeah. >> And went masturbated to it. Yeah, man. >> And she got addicted to masturbating to. me [ __ ] another girl rather than. [ __ ] me. A [ __ ]. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Right. Women want to BE [ __ ] POINT. FOR JAKE. >> DISAGREE. [laughter]. DISAGREE. That's like That's a Thank. you. That's a tra That's a trauma bond. That's a trauma bond. >> Maybe not all. Maybe not all of it. >> It'll work for a while. But I mean, >> the other thing is like [laughter]. you and I are obviously very close. You've gone to therapy. You've done this. work. You are at a point of.

self-reflection that you know 99% of. women. Even in my most [ __ ] up at days am I. there? I'm not going to see a video of. my guy and go, "Oh, yeah.". >> No, no, no. That's That's not what I'm. saying. I locked myself in. >> But there's But there's something inside. of there's something inside of women. that's like. >> there's nothing inside of a woman that. says she wants to be cuffed. Disagree. >> I'll tell you what, they're not like. disgusted and will never want to think. of him in the sexual way again. That's.

not That's not what it does. That's not. the reaction usually. >> That's not what is not the reaction. >> Fantasy. That that is nothing I've ever thought. about in my life when I masturbate. I'm. masturbating to myself in the mirror. with another girl. >> No. >> Okay. So, she's really at that time. >> Look, I'm not saying all women. I'm. saying that it's. >> You've never done it once. >> I' I've seen the patterns. >> The [ __ ]. >> Saving it. >> Wait a little. No. >> Saving it. >> Jesus. >> Saving it for the 50. >> It's pretty fun, actually. You should. try it. >> Well, the idea is this. Like, a woman. The idea behind this idea of mine is.

this. A woman wants a man that's like so. great, so high status, so incredible. that he would just like [ __ ] a woman in. front of her. He doesn't even [ __ ]. care. That's how. >> I think I think you're describing. >> masculine and like high. >> I don't find that masculine. I find I. find making a lot of money masculine. You can [ __ ] me out a pile of money. [laughter] Yeah, I'll masturbate to that. all day long. I hope I find a video of. that. I'm going to lock myself in a room. and masturbate all day. You'll never. [laughter] see me again. >> I think Jake is describing a vector in. the extreme end of the vector is what. you're talking about. But how about.

instead a man that other women might. look at maybe the extreme of that? This. is the extreme of pre-selection. >> Yeah. The extreme the extreme the a less. extreme version of that would be a man. Women don't want a man to cheat, but. they want a man who could cheat. I know a girl who went through a guy's. phone and she was so disappointed that. no girl talk to him. >> THAT SHE. ARE DISAPPOINTED. My head. guy. Is that 100%? [laughter].

>> Oh my god, I date a guy that has no. options. Oh, [ __ ]. >> Yeah, THAT'S WHY I LOCK YOUR PHONE, BOYS. IT'S LOSE LOSE. >> That [laughter] 100%. >> EITHER A DOG OR A [ __ ] LOSER. Text me. [ __ ] bro. >> I'm the least red pill person in this. >> Randy, [laughter] you go to your guy's. phone and he's just got the boys group. chat, Sunday football, and a work chat. >> No, I agree with you. Yeah, like. >> kind of, right? >> I don't want somebody that no one wants. >> You want some [ __ ] LA hoes to just be. at least reply to one little story. >> Everybody jealous. YES. YOU WANT A couple.

what she said is so great because people. misinterpret this. They hear what I just. said and they're like, "Oh, you're. trying to make your girl insecure." No, no, no, no, no. I'm trying to make. again, if my if me and my girl go to the. gym and dudes look at her, I'm not. insecure. My girl is fine as [ __ ]. That's why they're looking. And so, it's. the same type of situation where she's. like she's saying like, "I want my other. people to look at my man." You can be. proud of him. That doesn't mean that. doesn't mean you're insecure. So many. people. >> wait. If you can't make your girl.

insecure, she can't love you. >> There we go. We got the next uh. [laughter] next. >> That's tricky cuz I would have to say. Yeah. You want to be a little insecure. [laughter] and and I and I in in turn. want my man to be a little bit insecure. >> If I was an. Yes. Ex. And you want to certain times. too argument. That's when you That's. when you wear the super low cut shirt. That's when you start an argument. You're already in lingerie. >> That's for Fansley. Love Fansley. You. know, Fansley. Mhm.

>> Strangest custom requests you've gotten. from fans. >> You done some weird ones? You done some. weird ones? >> No, I I don't. >> You're not a custom girl. >> It just depends. Like I'll send my. underwear out and stuff, but like if. you're telling me to like fart in a jar, I'm not going to do it. >> Right. And you've gotten that request? >> Oh, yeah. >> Wow. CJ, >> there's something about men. They love. the farts. You get one, >> too. Yes, I've gotten that one. I. haven't found a number that works, but. I'm open to the pricing.

>> Just send it in. Send [laughter] it in. We'll figure it out. >> Um, okay. So, a couple because I used to. do the webcaming prior. So, I had uh one. >> What site were you came on? >> Uh, Streamate. >> Oh, >> yes. But like this is like 10 years ago. >> Oh, gee. So the guy there was one guy. who would come on and would have me sing. a song and it was a song called Jerk It. for Jesus. I would just make up all. these different things of like that. [clears throat] you jerk you're jerking. it for Jesus like. >> more than once. It was a ritual with.

this guy. >> Yeah, he did it a few times. He did it a. few times. [laughter]. >> I definitely definitely can but um but. it's out there somewhere. I would agree. Yes. >> I've been manipulated. [laughter]. >> Oh, woman. After after they present you. food, I've been manipulated. >> That's a good one, too. Yeah. >> Okay. Here's a good one, guys. Here's a. really good one, and I want everyone to. speak ON THIS ONE. BODY COUNTS. How.

important is it? I'm going to switch it. up. A girl's body count. >> Oh, very important for have a a man to. have a high body count. Very important. >> Whoa. Never heard a girl say this. >> It's very important. >> How high? It should be high. I mean, hundreds at minimum. >> Wow. CJ agree. >> Maybe not hundreds. [laughter]. >> Hundreds. I wanted to pull some crazy. [ __ ] out of his better, right? Her. baggage her bag. Sick. >> Well, I understand why. Say, you. understand where you live. There's no. guy who like is attracted. Do you.

understand? Whatever. CJ and I had this. conversation 10 years ago. You remember. we went to this one party and I said to. you, you were asking me about guys to. date and I said, "Honey, they can't get. to the parties we go to." We were going. to, you were going to the Playboy. I do. remember this. And one time I You were. sitting there [laughter] complaining. about a guy you're having a date on. And. I was like, >> probably with your [ __ ] friend. >> Yes. Yes. You were dating one of my. friends. And I remember she was she was. like, "I can't find any good guys." I. was like, "CJ, the guys that are good. can't get into the [ __ ] parties. [laughter] we go to. They will never But.

hold on. But the guys who can get into. those parties, none of them don't have. 100 body count. Like all of Do you. understand what I'm saying? Like, and so. think of all the things a man has to. accomplish to get in front of you in a. social situation. All those things he. did on the way, he's he's slayed so many. [ __ ] dragons, he's going to have 100, 200 body count, right? I don't know. I don't really [laughter]. ask who you should be asking. >> But you could just tell like you could. just tell by you could I could tell a. woman's body count by the way she.

carries himself. I'm sure you guys can. you can tell. >> I I think that's honestly I think that's. fair. I have no idea. [laughter]. >> I have no idea. How about this? How about this? >> Why don't you guess CJ's. >> 200? >> NO. WHAT'S. >> 200? [laughter]. >> 200 both. >> 200 for me. Well, you guys do porn, huh? >> You think I've been No, >> I say you guys do PORN EITHER. >> WE DO. [laughter]. >> RANDY, YOU DO. >> WHAT? >> YOU DO PORN? >> NO, I DON'T. I DO. WELL, I do Only Fans. porn. >> You guys don't do BG porn?

>> I don't do. >> She does BGOF. >> I don't I don't do Only Fans porn. It's. just me standing there in the. >> But you do solo? >> No, I'm just [clears throat] nude. I'm. just naked. >> Three sex tapes. >> for a boy for a boyfriend. >> Yeah. Busted open. >> 60. >> You are blind. And can somebody get this. man glasses? >> No, no, no, no, no. 60 is the body. count, not 6 years old. Yeah, she said. 34. >> He's saying I have slept with 60. Okay, I understand. >> Clearly, you've only slept with 23. We.

all know [laughter] that. Am I right? >> I mean, you're a lot closer. You're a. sexy. I'm on a sex [laughter]. and we all know that. >> not four. All right. Yeah, we all know. that Brandy sub 38 and CJ sub3. [laughter]. >> Can I ask you another question? So they. GSS keeps data on this. What's thats? General social survey. They've been. keeping data on this for like 25 years. Actually, actually longer. The top 1%.

most promiscuous men in the United. States have had how many sexual. partners? What do you think? >> Top 1% in the US. >> Top 1%. >> Uh 150. >> 150. What do you think? >> 200. >> 200. What do you think? Yo, my boys who are [ __ ] dogs and. have game are still I can't believe how. low the numbers are. 40. 40. Okay. What. do you think? >> Uh 70. >> 70. The number is 287. That's the top. 1%. But you're right, boys. >> To get in the top 1%. [clears throat]. You mean for the top 1%. And by the way, the GSS cuts it off at 98.

>> Way more than I thought. Michael Sarte. >> Uh the Huh? >> Way more cuz I thought that was top 1%. >> Top 1%. I would think that's cuz that's. too much. >> Most of that number is not to completion. by the way. Like I like my [laughter]. body count is really [ __ ] high. Most. of it is not to completion. I'm telling. you. >> Do you guys count Do you guys count. escorts and prostitutes? >> Yeah, >> I count insertion. [laughter]. >> That's fair. >> I think it's like a five. penetration.

[laughter]. >> But you did that. >> YOU KNOW WHAT? I CAN BE I'M ON BOARD OF. the.5 [laughter]. >> like I went to Columbia I came back with. 20. No, it was 10. >> Wow. Okay. Jesus. >> I don't know for 3 weeks a day. >> I'm Colombian [laughter]. appropriation. for women. What do you think the number. is. >> for the top 1%? >> Top 1%. >> [ __ ]. [ __ ] man. >> Jack, what do you think it is? >> 68.

>> The highest highest body count. This is. going to be the top 1%. The mean of the. top 1%. And they cut the number off at. 989. >> Oh my god. Wow. >> I don't know. >> 68. >> 68. What do you think? >> I think it might be higher than the. guys. >> Interesting. Okay. I've heard other. 500. >> What do you think? >> Is there like um is there a way to tell. if they're lying? Cuz [laughter]. >> if they're lying self-reporting for 25.

years. >> Okay. anonymous self-reporting. >> I would say over 200. >> Yeah. So it's 104. >> Okay. >> Yeah. For women. >> Yes. >> Are you the 1%? >> I stopped counting after 100. No, I'm. just kidding. [laughter]. >> None of them were good enough to film. with it. That's [laughter] what we. learned. >> Wow. >> That's what we learned. >> Yeah. >> That makes sense BECAUSE THEY'RE LIARS. [laughter]. SO, by the way, if you if you take the. GSS data for men and women and compare. them to each other, women have slept. with 22% fewer men than men claim that.

women [clears throat]. the numbers go the numbers miss each. other by 22%. >> I've been saying exaggerating on the on. the survey, too. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. Another point I like that you make. which I've never heard anyone say. >> Yeah. >> Dating apps. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Here it says rigged Mark and. stuff. I want to touch on your stance. that you think there's something wrong. with women on dating apps. >> Um, so the thing is I think now I think. initially when every dating app comes. out, they're actually good. They're.

women who are interested. They're. exploring. They try a couple things, but. they reject the guys they don't like. They go on the dates that they they with. the guys they do like, and because the. only indicator is physical. attractiveness, several women pick the. same guy. That guy. So the the number is. uh the top 10% of men on dating apps get. 63% of the right swipes. The top 20% of. men get 83% of the right swipes. The top. 40% of men get 96% of the right swipes, which means the bottom 60% of men are. competing for 4% of women. Miss. >> What's it like for those guys on the. app? Is it just. >> at the top?

>> No, no, the bottom weird. >> You never use the app, bro? >> They just don't [laughter] I'm up in the. [ __ ]. stratosphere, right? >> I'm saying the guys that get nothing. What's it like though to actually have. nothing? [clears throat]. >> But do they do they now bought the app. to to pretend like they did on Ashley. Madison? >> What do you mean? Oh, does the app so. they don't they don't have to. And the. reason why is because so many women who. aren't actually women are already. botting for them and they're trying to. get guys to go down only fans. So, so. like that is the biggest thing and. you'll get banned for it. So women are. finding ways around it where they come.

see me on my IG and then the first link. there's all these tricks. You guys know. them all. you haven't [laughter] served. >> So, so, so right now the official dating. app the official number is 65% of the. participants on dating apps are men and. 35% are women. That number is obviously. ridiculous. Half of the women are not. real women. They're actually bots or. there are people trying to get down. I. would say it's more than half of the of. the attractive women of the very. attractive women. I'd say it's if if. we're talking about very attractive.

women and we're. >> and can you name the main apps just so. we're all on the same page? Cinder, Bumble, Hinge, Rya, and Ukr. Well, no, seeking arrangement is not. seeking arrangement. >> How do you know what that is, CJ? I was. on there. >> Look at this right here, my friends. It's my new favorite thing in the world. Pure men lust. Say it with me. Pure men. lust. It is not a lubricant. It is a. pure unadulterated pleasure. Now, this. right here is a premium high-end. pleasure gel engineered specifically for. men who want to completely electrify. their sex life. Whether you're flying. solo or doing couples play, I like it. for both. I actually like it more for.

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profile. That's that's what makes them. good. >> Yes. That's the ones that you put to the. top are the ones that are the highest. earners. At what point do you negotiate. how much is your fee going to be for. like just a date, let's say? >> I would I wouldn't charge a fee for a. date. That's a little much. Yeah. I. wouldn't charge a fee for a [laughter]. date because then I would. >> I wouldn't want you. I was on there like. looking for. her boyfriend. That's not [laughter] how. you're supposed to. [clears throat]. >> Well, I want him to give me money. >> Probably after I get to the. >> date. [laughter] So cute.

>> After you get to the date, if you need. money to get looking for LOVE IN A. BROTHEL, [laughter]. >> I FOUND A couple good guys. >> Okay. [laughter] Cuz I don't think the. guys on arrangement are looking for a. wifey. >> Not all of them. >> They're looking for great. >> Some of them are. >> Some of them. Yeah. >> No, I think I think a lot of them are. >> They're looking for a lot of them. A lot. more men are whatever level of. desperation you can imagine. Men are. there are men suffering even further. levels of desperation than you can even. imagine.

>> I got a question. Have you guys ever. like been with a guy so attracted that. you're so into that you literally. required no money of him at all. You. could be a bum. >> No. >> I called it the I call it the market at. one point and you learned your lesson. My lesson. I'm not doing that ever. again. >> What's the lesson? >> The hot guy. >> Yeah. like the I made more money than. him and I could tell that he was like. jealous and it just didn't work out. >> What if he wasn't jealous? What if he. was actually really cool about it? >> And that's why I learned my lesson and I. just won't do it again. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I call them the hot bartender.

guys. >> Those guys that can close. They're. charismatic. They're good looking but. they're broke. >> But they're the help. >> Yeah. Well, they hold but they're broke. because they don't have any trouble. getting women. They're No, there's no. motivation. >> They usually have good dicks, too. And. they eat [ __ ] [laughter]. >> They're broke. I don't know how you know that. >> But that's that's true. >> It's direct. >> homosexuals. If a if a man if a man loses [laughter]. his job or makes less money than a. woman, he's 33% more likely to get. divorced. If a woman loses her job, no.

difference at all. If a man if a man. makes more money, he's more likely to. get married, have kids, and less likely. to get divorced. If a woman makes more. money, she's only more likely to get. divorced. >> Why more likely to get? >> Because it's not a general Cuz when a. man earns money, he his first instinct. is to pour into his family. And when a. woman earns a lot of money, her first. instinct is to run away from her family. >> She's already ran away from her family. cuz she's at work now. >> Like she she earns this money like she's. like, "Finally, I can get away from my. family with this money." And the man is.

the opposite. This this is what I've. seen. >> I I think I think it has more to do with. like gender norms. I understand what. you're saying, but I think it has more. to do with just general gender norms. They they tried the experiment again. where they just looked at lottery. winners. When men win the lottery, same. thing would happen. More women would. want to marry them. They're more likely. to have kids and they're less likely to. get divorced. When women would win the. lottery, they were only more likely to. get divorced. That's the only thing that. would change. Yeah. So, so women having. more money did not help them as far as. relationships were concerned. And it has. to do with the fact that it it's you.

might be saying, well, it's because the. man was jealous. No, it actually has to. do with more with the fact that women in. general in every society, they have run. this test. So, this is one of the most. replicatable findings in all of. evolutionary psychology, in every single. society that has ever existed. Women. care more about a man's ability to. procure resources than the other way. around. There is no exception to this. They reran this uh study in 2020, 45. different cultures, every single one of. them said the same thing. And the answer. was 2:1 on average. And the more the. more uh uh disparity of wealth there. was, then the more women cared about.

wealth. the less disparity of wealth. It. was slightly less, but even in places. like Norway, it was still 60% more where. women wanted men to make more money than. them. >> Of course. >> So, you know what I find weird though? >> And and you girls, I want I want to ask. you girls this, okay? I know a lot of. girls that just want to [ __ ] rich men, >> but just cuz they're rich. >> They just want to [ __ ] someone who has. money. What the [ __ ] is the POINT OF. THAT UGLY GUY WHO'S RICH who's not. giving it to you versus guy who can [ __ ]. good who's. >> broke?

Yeah. >> Yes. Exactly. What's the point? >> You're [ __ ] a rich guy for what? >> Is it Is there a taboo? >> It's like. >> Is it a night? You get nicer SHEETS ON. THE BED. IS THAT [laughter]. >> NO, I've heard this before on my. podcast. Like I don't understand why it. makes you feel I think you feel makes. you feel elevated. >> That's what it is. You think their. status is up. >> I don't understand unless you know like. if you're [ __ ] somebody like Taiga. Like remember when Tiger was doing the. only fans and everybody like I'm going. over to Taiga. It's like you too. Okay. Let's share an Uber. But [laughter] like. at that time I was like why why do we.

give a [ __ ] about [ __ ] Tai? Like are. we not [laughter] paying taxes anymore? Like is that the thing? You know I don't. understand. >> I guess. >> Yeah. I don't I don't I don't. understand. I don't get the celebrity. [ __ ]. >> Well, those things are over cuz he's. with [laughter] trans women now. >> Oh, he is. Oh my god. Wow. He really. took a turn there. Taigga. >> You know he denied the show. I'm going. to call him out. He's [ __ ] every trans. girl in the city. >> God bless. >> Okay. Wow. Well, no words, [laughter]. Tiger. Okay, now we're going to take a. more chill approach. >> We're going to discuss open.

relationships. Can they work, Brandy? >> I wouldn't be okay with it, >> but maybe it works for some people. >> All the way open. [ __ ] that. >> [ __ ] that. >> [ __ ] that. >> Like the the threesomes and stuff like. Michael and his girlfriend do. Like, but. that I wouldn't call that open. >> HE'S GOT IT GOING ON, DUDE. [laughter]. >> I wouldn't call that open. I would say. that that's like a manager.

relationship there's always one person. that knows where they stand and there's. one person that doesn't know where they. stand. >> Well, but that's also probably what. keeps it going. That's the. >> push will they won't they manipulated. the other to get in that. >> but then the other person is. volunteering for the manipulation and. also kind of gets off on it. So, it's. like a I mean there's a lot of open. relationships. I'm sure that you have. interviewed a lot of these performers. that have like the open relationship. From what I understand, there is. different rules, but some of the. performers come on and they're like, "Oh. no, my husband goes out for a date. I.

fix his bow tie. He comes back. He tells. me about the date. He's like, "Oh, she. smelled so great, babe." And she's like, "Tell me more." [laughter]. >> That's Randy Love, right? Okay. >> Is that impression? >> I'm not sure. >> Yeah. I don't know what the. >> I'll tell you guys this, okay? I've. interviewed porn stars for 6 years and. it's pretty much down the middle 50/50. what they let their men what the rules. are. Some say no when I [ __ ] it's for. work and that's not cheating. We're. talking just straight uh porn by the.

way. >> Mhm. >> And then the other ones say oh when I'm. working he's allowed to go do his thing. too. >> Mhm. >> And uh 50/50 I would say down the line. >> What are you guys thoughts on that? >> Um it it's obviously it's possible to. work for something. So, one of the. problems if if I if I bring up data, everyone's like, "Oh, that means he's. telling me that I can't do XY." No, no, no. Anybody you get away with whatever. If if you ended up marrying a woman with. a 1500 body count and you made it work, congratulations. Nobody hates you. Good. job. I'm sure you But you just beat the.

odds, though. That's all I'm saying is. no. Just rec Just recognize you beat the. odds. It says that you won the lottery. doesn't mean we don't need to interview. you on how [laughter]. you just. >> What is the stat about the higher the. body count, the bigger the divorce rate? Okay. So, so in general there's I mean. you can do metadata on this. There's. like 25 different studies probably more. than that now uh that go over women and. men who have higher body counts are just. have less relationship satisfaction. That equals men too. >> Yeah. For men too men and women. There. is one peer-reviewed non-perviewed thing.

that shows that women actually suffer. from it more than men. But there's it's. there's there's there's a ton of data on. this. >> If you don't know now you know. My. favorite brand in the world is Pop Star. We've been working with PopSar for three. [ __ ] years. Our longest partnership. And it's because I use it daily. This. has changed my penis forever. Okay, they. promote that your gum tastes like. pineapples, which is true. But that part. is just an extra bonus. I take the pills. every day and it changed my life. And. now they don't just have that. They got. this brand, this brand, that brand. I. want to talk about this one. The. performance booster. Harder, better,

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But in general it makes sense. Like if. all I do is eat donuts every day, I'm. going to be like I'm just not I'm going. to get tired of donuts. If if somebody. has had s a ton of sexual partners. before, then it's likely that they're. it's not just that they're not going to. be satisfied in the relationship. It's. that when things go wrong, they have so. many other places in their mind to go. to. >> They tasted what it means to be alive. >> Correct. They've had so many other. options on what what it meant what it. meant to go [laughter] to. >> Yes. So, because of that, then it's. like, well, you know, he's not doing. this thing for me, but he did, and this. other guy did, and this other guy did,

and this other guy did. And then there's. another one uh um a buddy of mine um uh. James Saxon is one of them and he talks. about social media ruining. relationships. James is a good friend of. mine and James would talk about this. like you're having a relationship um uh. Spencer Hec also talks about this. He. says you're your girlfriend is having a. relationship with people online that she. doesn't know. She's having a parasocial. relationship where she's watching a. woman on a boat uh in Mkos not. recognizing she's an escort. And she. thinks that well my why isn't my. boyfriend doing this? was like, "Well,

her boyfriend isn't doing it for her. either." And in the same situation, [laughter] it's like, "It's not her. boyfriend. >> He's at home barefoot in the kitchen. where he should be.". >> Correct. So, so, uh, that's the problem. And so, now this, now she's having a. relation. So, the parasocial. relationship the other day when Drake. was in Toronto and gave every girl. $1,000 in a bag that came to her party. You remember this? Yeah, there's so many. women who went and then there's women. who didn't go, but it still compared. their relationship to I could have been. single and going out there and hang out. with Drake instead of you, you [ __ ].

loser. >> And it's ru and it ruins their. relationship. So I think I think that. that's part of where it I think social. media ruins a lot of relationships for. men. Oh my the data on [ __ ] marriages. when it's like more than 4 hours a week. of social media use. You are 95% more. likely to consider leaving your partner. You look at that's dude that's the data. on content creator. >> Exactly. The data for social media use. in marriage is so definitive. It is so. crazy. And the data on if you have a. group of couples and one of them gets. divorced, they all start getting. divorced. It's it's Yes. It's wild. So.

>> just like the Mormon wives. >> Yes. Exactly. It's it's like a period. cycle. >> That's right. Yeah. Wrong. [laughter]. That's actually that's actually a myth. with the moon. >> That's a myth. >> It is a myth. Come on. >> I managed a strip club. I used to think. it was true. It's not true. What the. period cycle thing is not it's not IT'S. NOT IT'S NOT. >> it's not true. women of all the women I thought you. were you take if you take 500 women what. you're going to find is that they're one. of them's at 26 days 27 days 28 29. eventually all of them will sync up at.

some point if you have a group a big. enough group of women and so that's why. people think that they sync up but they. actually don't sync up. >> okay I want to hear from my man Jake. over here. >> what is your best advice day one of. training camp to a man. [snorts and clears throat] Um, he's. like, "Bro, I ain't getting no [ __ ]. bro.". >> Honestly, unfortunately, it has to be uh. get great photos and get on the dating. apps. Cuz the first thing I tell him to. do, I want I need to get him in front of. a woman so I can give him daily. correction. That's that's how I coach. guys. Like, I need to get him in front. of a woman and I need to see how he text.

messages. I need to see how he text The. first thing I do is. >> Is the digital game more important than. the inerson game? >> No. No, but it's it's very important. It's very important because, bro, I'll. tell you what, most guys lose the women. that they're [ __ ] with but via text. message. It's just it's just the way. that they text. So, the first thing I do. is I have them send me screenshots of. their conversations and I just like I. [ __ ] roast them. I just I kill Yeah. I Well, I'm just very very honest with. them like, "No, you should.". >> And what's the common thing that they. [ __ ] up the most? >> Um like basically they're they're too.

invested. They're too available and. they're always available. They're just. always available. They never they they. never say no. Uh there's no conflict. That's the number one thing. There's no. conflict in any of the text messages. Like, where's the conflict? There's no. conflict. without conflict, without any. conflict, push back, teasing, anything. like this. It's all comfort, approval, comfort, approval, no sex. No sex there. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Brandy, agree. >> I agree with him. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> I disagree. I I love when a man says yes. to everything. Never tells me no. That's.

[ __ ] hot. >> You're a little dummy mommy. That's what. you [laughter] That's my [ __ ] Say yes. to everything. >> Hey. >> Yeah, but you're not thinking of. invisible men when you say say yes to. everything. You're thinking of men that. you already like. I'm not thinking of. invisible men, period. >> How tall does he have to be? >> How tall did he have to be? $5 million. >> What color does his eyes need to be? >> $5 million. [laughter]. >> That's a good strategy. That's funny. Um, [laughter]. so. >> how ugly would you go for 5 million?

>> I'm I mean, I've dated ugly guys. >> How ugly? >> I mean, >> her current boyfriend is extremely My my. current boyfriend. >> extremely good looking. He's very. good-looking and he's extremely. successful. Okay, but I want to talk. about the dark days, baby. >> I've dated I've dated guys that are. overweight, guys that are bald, guys. that are. >> And when it gets down to game time, >> they're fine. Their dicks are working. just fine. If just if you're a man, you. around the belly. >> Are you close? >> HIS WALLET [laughter] AS [ __ ] I'm.

thinking about. you. You don't date for attraction. >> I Well, I date for attraction, but they. need to be rich. >> CJ CJ has one of the best lines ever. about 8 years old. >> What if he's [laughter] cheap with his. money? He's safe. >> No, no, that's not I can't cheap. Cheapness cannot be. >> needs to be a generous. [laughter]. >> CJ, one time she the best line I've ever. heard. Someone asked you, "What kind of. dick do you like?" And she goes, "Hopefully attached to a good person.". Do you remember this? [laughter] You. were on my show. You go everyone was. talking about dick sizes and you go, "Uh, what kind of PE you like?" Well, hopefully it's one that's attached to.

like a kind and generous person. >> Like a good person. Yeah. Probably. generous. >> Generous and generous. SO FUNNY. ALL THE. OTHER GIRLS WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT ALL. KINDS OF crazy [ __ ] Yes. And you were. just like just attached to a person. who's generous and nice. >> Yes. Yes. [laughter] That's the kind of. dick that I like. >> Your your question. >> Rich dick. >> You're rich. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> First date first date training camp. It. >> it's first date. So I actually don't. recommend dating. What I recommend is. it's the same thing. >> Invite the invite her to something. you're doing with the boys, right? >> No. A few mixed groups. Okay. So the.

main thing is number two. >> We're going to the comedy club. You. should come. >> Yeah. Two things. Number one, get get. below 15% body fat, number one. And then. number two, uh uh fix your fix your. social media. So like get your social. med again, social media is not the most. important thing, but it's like. breathing. If you don't think about. breathing, >> digital footprint. >> Yes. You don't think about your you. don't think about breathing until you. can't breathe. Then your breathing. becomes the most important thing. If. your social media sucks, what happens is. a girl will meet you. They will all. check your hygiene. It doesn't matter. what a woman tells you, she's going to.

check your [ __ ] Instagram. If you're. 6'4 and you're a chat, you're Australian. Thunder from down under, you know, super. chat or you're a billionaire or you're. Cleonard DiCaprio, you don't need an. Instagram. Those guys don't. Those. people, if you're a billionaire, you. don't need an Instagram. You showed up. in a helicopter, you don't need an. Instagram. But for the rest of us, you. need that because it's the first thing. she's going to check. And here's the. difference on dating apps. She can't see. that other women like you. She can't see. that other women approve of you. She. can't see that you're competent at your. job. You're a good speaker. You have. cool friends. But she can on Instagram.

And so that's why fishing is wait a. second because on my H profile one time. I had six photos of me with six. different women and I got a lot of. matches. They can't Yeah. No, it's. immediate testing. Immediate tests. Immediate testing like [ __ ] test like. non-stop. They're pissed off. They're. automatically piss. They start the. conversation pissed, right? But it works. like so you can kind of show I wouldn't. recommend it. I wouldn't recommend it. >> So here's here's the second part is that. mixed group. So like for me for me I. don't I wouldn't ask on dates. It would. be hey we're all going to escape room. axe throwing. We're all going to this uh.

we're going to this party together. Halloween party. Uh we I used to do food. pantry up in North Vegas up in the hood. I would invite all it would be like 30. of us, guys and girls and some of the. hottest cocktail servers in the city. would come and volunteer at a soup. kitchen with me. Uh we would do that. every week. Stuff like that. Top golf. group events where there's slightly more. women than men is way better. And then. from that you earn a date both of you. You get to know each other. You earn a. date. It's way better than. >> I love this. Most girls do not want to. meet up with strangers one-on-one. They.

just don't. They really [ __ ] don't. want to. >> Are you going on dates, Brandy? >> Yeah. >> Huh? >> But they got to give you 500 bucks for. [laughter]. you. >> No, but are you going on Are you going. on first dates with the guy of interest? >> Yeah. >> You doing that [ __ ]. >> I did it recently. >> You you awkward dinner like, "Hey.". >> Yeah. What do you do? >> I did. >> Yeah. You like it? >> But he he did give me money to GO ON IT. >> OH, [laughter]. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. READY? >> I'M TALKING ABOUT LOVE. OKAY. WE'RE. TALKING A LOT. >> OH my god. >> Okay. So, I'm curious. I'm curious if.

[laughter] you believe if you agree with. this. I thought cuz again, I used to. manage a strip club in college and I. thought that women only tolerated. men who had money for the money. And. then as I got older, I realized that's. not the case. I see women who hang out. with guys who have money and then don't. get any money. Yeah. Which is super. strange. Which you pointed out. I've. seen that several times in Las Vegas. Um, and I I saw that frequently and then. I met some women. I I'll just say I. think Nichollet's like this. Like I I. met some women. Nichollet's love her.

She's one of. >> You know, Nichollet Shay, >> good friend of mine. Uh, we love you, Nichollet. >> I think I think Nichollet and I have. some other friends like this that are. legitimately attracted to men because. they have money. And I know it sounds. crazy, but it's like they and I know. some other girls like this will. legitimately fall in love with a man. because they have money. And to and from. my standpoint, cuz I could never fall in. love with a woman because she had money. It doesn't make sense to me. And I. didn't believe it was a real thing. And. I don't. >> You KNOW WHO'S LIKE THAT? Jenny right. there. >> You know what? I think I [laughter]. think a lot of these women are. recreating.

recreating a wound, right? Like she got. burned by some rich guy and she wants to. rewrite a happy ending. >> It's not It's not love, but it's their. interpretation of love. But I've seen. women actually convince themselves that. they're physiologically sexually. attracted to a man just because he has. money. And I did, and by the way, it's. not most women, but it's some women. And. I didn't believe that was real. But. living in Las Vegas, I know that it's. true. I've seen it [clears throat]. happen several times. Women who are just. like a guy is rich and you think it's. like, well, he's rich, so she's going to. get the money out of him and just hate.

every second of having sex with him. She's actually sexually attracted to a. guy because he has money. It makes sense evolutionarily because. this is the the the allegory. There is. no money 27,000 years ago in the scene. The the the money is an allegory for. competency. Women would choose the most. competent man, the most competent. hunter, the most competent fortification. builder, the most compet most competent. >> You got the sickest cave. Correct. >> Make your own money. That's why I make. my own money. So like, >> how do you feel about trust fun boys? See, I don't like those guys.

>> That's weird. Those people are weird. [laughter]. >> I tried to date one guy like that. So. weird. If you haven't if you haven't. made your own money as your own, it's. not fun. >> Yeah. And you haven't struggled. You. don't know. >> It's not fun anymore. >> Yeah. I don't like hanging out with. those guys. >> It's a silver mentality. >> Yes. >> Yeah. If you haven't struggled though, especially here in LA, if you haven't. struggled a little bit, that's that's. odd. >> Yes. >> And they're usually. socially overcame. Yes. That's right. Strength strength and independence. I. think.

strength and independence are the most. attractive things about a man. >> Absolutely. And then typically he's a. good conversationalist. He's a good. leader. He might be able through [ __ ]. >> And now Jake, thank you. The most attract 2026 in big cities in. America. What is the most attract three. most attractive things in a girl? >> In a girl to who? To a to your average. guy. >> Yeah. To an average guy in a in a big. city. So we're talking LA, Miami, New. York. >> Um facial beauty and interest in him. I. think like it's really just those two.

Just interest in him and facial beauty. That's it. They'll they'll take a fatty. that that talks to him a lot and that's. pretty in the face. >> Oh wow. >> Yeah. Yeah. For real. But you want a. girl you want a girl to chase? >> Do I want a girl to chase? >> No. No. He's just saying last. >> I want a girl to be interested in me. >> Yeah. A lot of guys lately are saying I. like who likes me. >> Yeah. You should as a man [laughter] you. should. >> men should like who likes you or else. you'll end up getting rinsed. >> Yes. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> That's fair. >> You can't be too specific with your.

niche. [laughter]. >> For for the men in this room. I don't. think it's representative of most men, but like we're going to see a certain. level of physical attractiveness. And if. there's no way a woman is going to talk. her way into making me attracted to her. if I'm not physically attracted to her. and that that's just something that's. just an evolutionary reason cuz physical. attractiveness in women is a sign of. fertility. So that's just an. evolutionary thing. Uh it's very. difficult. If a woman came to me and I. was not attracted to her and she kept. explaining to me about beauty pageants. she won 10 years ago, it has no effect. It just go away. It [laughter].

doesn't it doesn't have any effect. So I. would say initially it's it's it's. facial symmetry signs of youth hip to. waist hip to waist ratio is the most. universal of all attraction triggers. It. is the most universal in the entire. world. Even blind this is the craziest. craziest study I've ever seen. They took. blind men who have never seen women in. their entire life. have never seen a. woman and haptically with clay design. what they thought the most attractive. woman would be like and the woman that. they decided had a.7 hip to waist ratio. which is the same hip to waist ratio as.

the most fertile women. It was. incredible. Anyone who does not believe in. evolutionary psychology is just you're. just lost. It was such an incredible. study. Even men who had never seen women. before found women with a point hip to. waist ratio to be the most attractive. I. know batty when I fl [laughter]. 7 means they could she could be have a. bigger gut and a huge wide butt or a 7. could be she has a small waist and um a. a little bit wider hips. It's just 7. So. somewhere between 68.72 and so that's. one of the things the most replicatable.

one is symmetrical face uh signs of. youth in their skin and then uh hip to. waist ratio. That would be the most. important ones. But it's more men find. fewer things attractive in women than. the other way around. Women there's so. many things that women find attractive. in men. Men men view attraction. huristically. This is a mental shortcut. So when I see a beautiful woman, I do. this mental shortcut saying I want to be. with her. Women don't do this. Women. view attraction holistically where they. have to consider the whole. There are so. many things that they have to consider. because of uh reproductive cost, right?

Reproductive risk, right? So there are. so many things they have to consider. Safety like an unsafe man that they are. attracted to for every other reason is. just like disqualified. Can't even get. her [ __ ] wet anymore, right? Cuz she. can't feel safe, right? So they consider. so much, right? Mhm. I want to ask you a. question, CJ. >> A lot of girls I ask and I say, "Have. you cheated? Have you cheated? Have you. cheated?" Very common answer I've been. getting is, "We don't cheat, but we're. cheat backers.". >> Oh. >> So, if you get cheated on, and you find. out, >> how many girls cheat back?

>> Cheat backers, guys. Cheat back. So, they take the guy back, they forgive. him, >> and they they hate him, and it's toxic, but but they forgive him cuz they love. him. Yeah. >> How many girls under the radar go and. suck some [ __ ] dick and he never. knows cuz y'all are so sneaky? What. percentage would you say? >> I wouldn't. I would just want full. access to the black card, >> bro. >> Same. >> And then. >> you guys wouldn't cheat back. >> We could continue on. >> Who the [ __ ] wants to cheat back? I'm.

going to go suck another dirty dick. >> and then and then have to come back. [laughter]. It's not even I'm down too as a woman. >> No, you're right. You don't want to go. sucking dicks for free. >> SHE DOESN'T THINK. >> OKAY. OKAY. I SHOULD HAVE SAID THE WORD. SUCK, TOO. >> You got go get your [ __ ] I should have. said [laughter]. >> go get my [ __ ]. >> Yes, that's what I should have said. You. go get your [ __ ] eaten. >> after. John, you caught him. >> I don't know. >> So now the cute guy at the bar, you come. eat this [ __ ].

>> Guy at the bar game. >> No, I just need more. >> Apparently all girls are cheating back. girls. AM I WRONG? >> BUY ME A HOUSE. BUY ME A HOUSE. >> You would CHEAT OUT, RIGHT? YES. And he. would never find out, right? >> But then. >> AND YOU WOULD YELL AT HIM FOR CHEATING. every day. >> Find out. I'd make sure he found out. >> You would do it to hurt him. >> YEAH. WELL, you cheated on her. >> I would be like, "Yeah, all right. Yeah, I did.". >> Because girls have egos and they say, "This motherfucker.". >> No, I wouldn't do that. >> Jenny, you're cheating. >> I'm not a cheater.

>> No women cheat. Okay. >> I'm not a cheater either. I don't know if I can say this in this. city, but uh Kobe's wife got a $4. million ring. Do you guys remember this? >> Cheat on me all you want, baby. >> Exactly. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Just apologize. >> You think it's okay for men to cheat if. they're providing everything for you? >> I don't necessarily think it's okay. Cheat on me all you want. >> He wants variety. He provides. everything. He steps out respectfully, discreetly. >> How do you feel? >> If I didn't know about it, if I didn't. know about it, I don't know about this. >> This is how a man respectfully cheats.

If I didn't. >> If [laughter] I didn't KNOW ABOUT IT, >> THIS THIS SHOW SHOULD be called the. quiet side. If I don't know about it, >> as long as it's [laughter] not my. friend, >> as long as it's not my friend, how blind. is my blind eye? How big is his wallet? >> That's right. [laughter]. >> Have you ever seen that clip? It's a. super funny video how this it's a skit. where this woman walks in. It's like. when you walk in on your when you walk. in your You said this to me. When. [laughter] you walk in on your. billionaire boyfriend cheating and she's. like, "Oh my god." Oh, sorry. >> [laughter]. >> I didn't see you LIKE THAT. SHE GOES,

SHE GOES, "THAT thing you're doing, keep. doing it from behind. Do that. Get you. guys some water." She just. >> perfect. [laughter]. Here's the thing. I kind of feel like if. you're going to be with somebody for 10, 20, 30, 40, however, however long we all. aspire to be together with our. significant other, it's going to happen. at some point. I believe most likely. I'm sure there's exceptions to the rules. like our lottery winner. Most men are. going to cheat at some point in a. long-term relationship.

>> So, so I agree that they would if they. could. The problem is that the problem. is. >> well the ones I'm dating are the ones. that [laughter] correct including my. current boyfriend. >> I just don't think you guys understand. the whatever let's just say you guys go. to some incredible party after this. The. the dragons a [ __ ] has to slay. to get in front of you to where you. notice him. That means he h he has. overcome things that 99% of men haven't. And in doing so, he has the ability to. sleep with a lot of women on the way to. getting there. Most men, the assistant.

manager at the Walmart in Celane, Idaho, he doesn't cheat because he can't. That's the difference. He doesn't have. any options. Most men don't have. options. Dating apps have taken what the. one main thing that dating apps and. social media have done is they've made. the majority of men look less. attractive. They haven't made attractive. men look more attractive. movie stars. and athletes already were attractive in. 1985 before social media. What it did. was it made the bottom 70% of men just. look so much less attractive than the. guy in F1 Art Basel Aziza wherever now.

they look less attract and by the way. and like I'm I'm not a victim of it. I'm. I'm a beneficiary of I'm the guy. backstage and I see your girlfriend. backstage. I'm like I'm I'm behind Diplo. watching him on stage at Access and. whatever and you're there's your. girlfriend and there's your girlfriend. and there's and they're all there. >> and girls will see my my thing and then. they'll want to hang out with me and. it's just one of these these situations. where it's like my IG now makes you look. worse. And I wasn't even trying to do. this. And that's that's one of the main. problems I've seen is men and women and.

even couples that are on ski vacations. or whatever, they make average men look. like [ __ ] The average man in this. country makes $71,000 a year. $69,000 a. year. was something like that and he's. 5' n. He in comparison to what you see. on your algorithm, he just looks. terrible. And that's the main thing. that's happened with social media. >> Hey, you guys know who I feel the worst. for these days? When we grew up, we were. [ __ ] tens, even broke, because we're. [ __ ] our age group and we were. popular because we were just loud and. cool. Yeah, we were dope.

>> But now 19, 18year-old dudes, >> nothing. >> Can you believe? or they're cooked. >> Because. >> I tell them I tell them to don't don't. focus on women. Just get rich. >> They're done. >> until you're I. these guys at 22, they don't even have. access to the kind of woman that they. want. They don't even have unlocked yet. They don't even have it unlocked yet. Wait till you're 30. Just get rich. >> Yeah. So, who are they [ __ ] these. boys? It must be miserable, >> bro. They're they're it's a nightmare. >> Well, I mean on the only fans. >> the amount of sex So, uh one study I saw.

was from 20 2002 to 2013. The amount of. men in the top 5% uh most promiscuous. men, the amount of partners they had. went up by 33%. And the number of. sexless men went also went up by 33% at. the same time. >> Bro, I just remember when I was 19 years. old, me and me and a 19-year-old girl. would go to a bar, have some beer, and. [ __ ] It doesn't happen anymore. >> You can meet a girl in the dance floor, make out anymore, bro. THAT [laughter]. ISN'T THAT THE DANCE floor. you don't like like grinding grinding?

Yes. No. Nobody grinds anymore. >> [ __ ] the people you grinded with. [laughter]. Crazy. >> Why don't they ask you for money while. they have a penis? >> Look at this woman grinding. [laughter]. >> I do feel bad. On the grind are sick. I do feel bad because there is a lot of. guys that they kind of they can't even. like for me if I was out there and I was. dating around. If somebody bought me a. drink, I'd be like, "Oh my god, thank. you so much. I'd want to like chat a. little bit." Now, if you're a guy and. you go out, you buy a girl a drink, you.

go up and give it to her, they're like, "Oh, what do you want? What do you. want?" You know, like, "Oh, he bought me. a drink. He thinks he owns me. You don't. own me or he wants to talk to me or. whatever." I'm like, >> "Fuck, that's kind that wouldn't even. work on somebody that likes money like. me." Kind of sad. It's slim picking. I. think what she's saying, and I don't. know if we want to go down this road, but it's it's the it's the [ __ ] man. or the bear in the woods, that whole. argument. It's just women are being sold. that men are so horrible. And because of. that, uh we get to a point where it's. like, why are you coming up and talking. to me? And then the same woman who's.

like, "Why are you coming up and talk to. me?" We'll go on a podcast and be like, "Why don't more guys come up and talk to. me?" No, you want guys you're attracted. to come up and talk to you. You don't. want more guys to come up and talk to. >> Honestly, I don't think women ever. really liked men that much. Honestly, I. [laughter] don't I don't think that. women ever really liked men that much. I. think women really like independence. I. think that's what women really like. independence and power, right? And they. they. >> Women like independence and power. >> That's what you seek. You seek. independence and power. >> You are most. I find they're all trying to rush to a.

relationship. >> where. >> everyone wants to date Ryan. [laughter] I mean, look, I think. personally women try to experience. independence and power through the man. that they seek, though. >> My proxy. Yeah, I see what you're. saying. >> Yeah, but but most girls want to be in a. relationship. >> Um, yes. Yes, they want to be in a. relationship, but I don't think that. they like men that much. I don't I think. that these these are these are two. different things, right? Cuz a lot of. girls want to be in a relationship, but. they don't want to see the guy that. much. >> Well, why do they want to be Is it cuz.

they want to impress their parents? >> Provision, security. Yeah. What? social. like what the group thinks right what. the group thinks of them right. >> small town you need to get married by. this. >> also like their biological clock is. ticking it's like a natural drive for. them right right so yeah but I don't. think that they really ever really liked. men that much um but they they get. really obsessed and infatuated with men. when when a man can make them feel. insecure and like excited like a wide. range of emotions you know what I mean. if a guy can give a woman like emotions. that she feels like she can't get.

anywhere else she'll become like wildly. obsessed with this man right but then. but Look, if a woman has a celebrity. crush and you put them in the same. [ __ ] house for 30 days, she no longer. has a celebrity crush. Like, if they're. [ __ ] locked in a house together, they're they're not going to she's not. even going to like the guy. So, the man. will fall more in love in the woman's. presence, and the the woman will fall in. love in the man's absence, right? >> The man the man the man is not typically. falling in love with the with the woman. No, I disagree. He's not falling in love. with the woman's presence. He's falling. in love with the stress. >> that she's giving him. What do you guys.

have? I can't recall the word. We we. vasopress. >> Vasopress. That's it. Yeah, we we. love [ __ ] We love [ __ ] We love. [ __ ] We love women. You heard it. here first. >> Yeah, we do. We do. We like all these. [ __ ] red pill guys on the [ __ ]. internet saying they want to date the. Virgin Mary. They're They don't know. what the [ __ ] they're talking about. Okay. There is no Virgin Mary. They're. lying. That part is true. Yeah. They're. going to get bored with that that woman. That woman is too noble and dignified. She won't even give her She would even. give him access. [laughter]. She would even give him access. She He.

wouldn't last a week under that woman's. roof. No, no, no, no. That's not what. they want. They want to bring the [ __ ]. out of women. That's what we really. want. >> You want to make her your [ __ ]. >> Exactly. >> Which is I mean that's that's kind of. fair. >> You said this, Michael Sart. You said. girls want uh the bad boy to be good for. them. >> Yep. And girls want the bad the bad boy. to be good for her. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I would want the good girl to be bad for. her. >> For us. Yes. Yes. Yes. That's the one. >> I would argue that men don't like women. as much. You guys just like the sex that. we provide. >> 100%. [laughter].

>> I don't know. Then. I mean I. >> I mean are y'all likable though? [laughter]. >> [ __ ] [laughter]. >> I mean incred incredibly so incredibly. >> but yo when I do meet one that I can. vibe with I fall hard. Yo, don't you guys think I want to hear. your your take on this? Especially you. >> Yeah. >> The bigger the dog, the bigger the [ __ ]. boy, the bigger the.

>> bigger he falls and the bigger. >> cuz he's been hurt so much. He knows. what works now. >> But then how heartbroken does he get. when it when he breaks? >> Me and uh I mean deeply for a short. period short period of time. Two weeks. I'm two weeks two weeks I'm cooked and. then I'm like. >> and then GTA 6 comes out. >> No. No. Then I just find [laughter]. another [ __ ] I'm [ __ ] None of us. are happy. >> I'm [ __ ] for months. >> For real? >> Yeah, you are. [laughter] No, he is. >> He is broke. He comes out to Vegas. I'm always heartbroken.

>> I'm heartbroken. >> No, but this is THIS I SEE THE. [laughter]. BOYS are always heartbroken. CAN I SHOW. YOU GUYS? >> HONESTLY, this makes you better with. women because you. >> I've also noticed is that the guys who. are these like huge [ __ ] boys when they. settle down, it's with a girl that. everyone wanted. It was the It was the. girl that society told them they. couldn't have. It's Megan Kelly and and. Machine Gun Kelly. It It's the uh It's. He was the [ __ ] boy and society's like, "You're a [ __ ] boy. You're not going to. get the good girl." No, the good girl.

eventually because she got to tame this. man who was untame tameable. She ends up. in with that dude. And I've seen this. happen o over again. Whereas the. opposite isn't quite as true. Generally, the woman who just like, "Hey, I had sex. with 300 dudes." It doesn't I'm not. saying I'm not saying there isn't. someone there for you. There is someone. for you. But it doesn't make you more. attracted to them. >> Do hoes deserve love? [laughter]. >> How are they? >> This is how. >> No. Like, do actual hoes deserve back. >> There's a loyal. [laughter].

>> It's a great one. Can men and women. really be just friends? >> Yes, >> absolutely. I can't imagine how, bro. I. I I see beautiful women and deal with. beautiful women all the day. Imagine if. I had to like be friend or if I had to. not be friends with them or be more than. friends with them. Of course you can. If. you deal with beautiful women all the. time like you have to just be able to be. friends with them. Imagine the pressure. if you know what I mean. Like. >> if you're [ __ ] ALL OF THEM IN I can't. I can't be friends with you cuz you're.

too beautiful. What the [ __ ]. >> Or like cuz I want to [ __ ] you and you. won't let me. That's alone with a woman. >> And and most of my guy friends have no. girl lady friends because they they. literally dick and [ __ ] No. Okay. All. right. [laughter] Here's. the problem, though. Guys now, most the. average guy nowadays can't even go out. and make a male friend. Like, they. they're so bad at social skills, they. can't even make a [ __ ] male friend. out there. So, they need help out there, bro. I I do coaching. [laughter].

>> We're We're so lucky that we're a little. older and we had to go out and and. [clears throat] spit games. >> without cell phones and without the. Snapchat. when they finally wake up, they're they. don't know what to do. >> It's so it's it's traumatic. >> They need help. I've been I've been. coaching this young girls. That's why. everyone, my friends that are like, "So. interrup Oh, she's 21, bro. This girl's. 21. Oh, 22. Best pussy." Dude, I don't. know what to say to a 22-year-old. [laughter] They're [ __ ] weird.

They're boring. >> My girlfriend's 22, >> bro. Guess what? WE DIDN'T [laughter]. REALLY CONNECT. LET'S GO, BRO. That's hilarious. [laughter]. I'M CONNECTING FOR YOU, BRO. >> Oh my god. [laughter]. >> There you go. Point proven. >> So, so I've been That's hilarious, bro. [laughter] Um, uh, I first started. teaching this like 18 years ago. I. started saying the number one way for a. guy to date women out of his league was. for him to have a [ __ ] ton of female.

friends. And when he didn't hit on any. of them, and you know this, I didn't. When you and I first met, I knew I. didn't have to explain this to you. because I knew what I could see. You. were hosting these shows and you weren't. hitting on the girls and you told me. this. You're like, "You never. >> I was like, I'm finding another one that. gets it.". >> Yeah. I was like And I was like, "And. they and they all try a bunch of them. try to sleep with you and you were like, "Yes, a ton of them.". >> Why isn't this guy hitting on me? >> Yeah. I was like, "Why isn't this guy. hitting?" So, I did this at the strip. club. It wasn't on purpose. I just. didn't want to lose my [ __ ] job. So, all these girls would start hitting on. me and I would not hit on them. And it. was just like, it was relentless. And.

the more And they weren't even hitting. on me because of my attributes. they. were hitting on me because other women. were around and they couldn't figure out. what was going on. And so the same. situation I started doing in lo in Las. Vegas where I started throwing these. swimsuit pageantss and beauty pageantss, whatever. And I would never hit on the. girls. And then the other thing is like. someone like CJ who's my wingwoman or. Kindly Myers, we would go out and they. know exactly what to do and what to say. And when I'm with them, we get in. everywhere. And the girl is like, "Yo, so here's the other thing. Imagine a.

girl and she's like, "That's my favorite. influencer. Holy [ __ ] And and she sees. me with like kindly or CJ. She's like, "That girl makes money from just. modeling. I want to make money from just. modeling." And she's hanging out with. Michael. Now, remember what he talked. about being safe. So, the way it works. is it's a really great um evolutionary. psychologist, William Castell, he talked. about this one time, and I think I've. heard Matt Murphy say this before. They. talk about every time a woman meets him. When we see a woman, we have what's. called perfect information. I know. enough from seeing from you from hip to. waist ratio, facial symmetry, whatever,

there's an algorithm immediately. I know. I would date you, have sex with you, whatever. It's But when they view me, they don't know. Can he dance? Can he. have is he good in bed? Is he abusive? Is he going to lie? Is he going to steal. from me? All these different things. Well, if I'm hanging around successful. women or if I'm hanging around women who. are very beautiful and accomplished and. they all love me and 50 of them showed. up to my birthday last Monday, which. both of them were there. If that. happens, the girl a bunch of those. questions are filled out. And this is. the term is called mate choice copying.

in humans. Well, we call it. pre-selection. Most people did all the. vetting for her. >> Yes. Other women did the vetting for. you. Now, here's the crazy part, and. this is the part that makes people angry. when I say it, but it's true. It's. actually women who are less sexually. experienced who are more affected by. pre-election. And you think about it, why why would that be the case? Women. who are actually more uh more sexually. experienced don't care as much about. pre-selection. It's women who don't. because the women who don't have as much. sexual experience, they have to look to. other women to say, is this guy a good. bet? Is he safe? Is he gener in your.

case? Is he generous? Uh, and the other. thing, you know, if his ex-girlfriends. were all stunningly hot and then his. female friends are like this, he's not. gonna he's not going to put me in he's. not going to grape. He's not going to do. things. Those are things that you don't. have to worry about. >> And the problem is because of the. machismo in the red pill space. I I was, you know, uh, made fun of. I'm still. made fun of consistently for. >> for being friends with women, >> for being for telling men to be friends. with women. And I'm the only person. I'm. the only I'm the only person like Rolla. Tamasi 100% 180. He's like, I didn't.

think men and women could be friends. I. went to your birthday. Holy [ __ ]. [ __ ] I did not know. >> You better be friends with women, bro. >> So my birthday [laughter] dudes are. [ __ ] weirdos. >> Yeah. Honestly, most dudes are socially. [ __ ]. >> Yo, they just want to talk about [ __ ]. their fantasy football. [laughter] They. don't give a [ __ ]. >> Here's the other thing, and you. mentioned this before, and you mentioned. this before. I know every dude who's. talking [ __ ] about me because the dudes. who talk [ __ ] about me, they run their. mouth to women and they're always the. dude who comes up and. >> they call me gay. You'll go to the. bathroom and you're at the gym and. they'll go up and talk to your girl and.

talk [ __ ] about you behind your back. You you know every [ __ ] dude who you. don't want to do business with cuz they. run their mouth, talk [ __ ] There's no. party you can't get into, right? And the. problem, the main thing is, let's just. say you're a dude and you make friends. with 10 girls and you don't, you just. friend-zone all of them. They introduce. you to 10 more girls. those 10, those. second 10 girls are like, "Yo, who's the. [ __ ] is this dude with 10 girls?" And. then they they get attracted. But here's. the crazy part. A couple weeks later, a. couple months later, that original 10. girls now, they start getting attracted. to cuz you're like, "Yo, how why is he. talking to him and not me?" And it's one.

of the weirdest things. >> And when you go out and if you're doing. this in your own city. >> and you want you your first date with a. girl and you're saying hi to every. single [ __ ] 10 and they're showing so. much respect to you, >> come on. That's the biggest that is the. best [laughter]. feel and secure in that moment. >> Oh, you feel good. You're like, "Oh. [ __ ] that's respectful about it." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Exactly. Especially if he has swag and. he's like not being weird or anything. Oh, that's the best. >> But here's the other. >> You can tell when they did [ __ ] a They. do that. >> side. [laughter] Yes.

>> Here's here's the other issue in in the. function in in psychology. It's called. cross- sex mind reading. Men So, for. instance, men sending dickpicks, unsolicited dickpicks is a failure of. cross- sex mind reading. Most women Is. that still happening? >> Yeah. >> Women Women are getting paid to look at. men's penises as well. >> No, I know. But but but are guys really. on Instagram selling their dicks? >> Oh, yeah. They think that it's going to. work. It's a failure of mind. >> Or is it a kink like she might see my. work? >> It's what it is. It's a failure. Dr. David Bus came on my show. He he talked.

about the failure of cross- sex mind. reading because you would like it if she. sent you a picture. >> You're projecting that she wants to see. your penis. This is looks maxing is also. looks maxing is projecting too. What men. are projecting, oh if I she just looks. good, I want to be with her if I look. good with the same. So the the failure. of crossex mind readading there's less. failure of crossex mind readading if. you're around girls. So for me again. managing a strip club for 4 years and.

then living in Las Vegas, being around. so many women, it was like one of these. things where a girl would sit there and. tell me about the date from her. perspective and she had no reason to lie. to me cuz I wasn't dating her and she'd. be like, "I slept with him on the first. date. I didn't sleep with him." And then. you start hearing the story from their. standpoint. >> That'll be our next topic, by the way, if we should [ __ ] on first dates. Keep. going. >> Like if you have I've said this before, every woman should have a guy friend who. is a huge [ __ ] Don't sleep with him. But this guy is literally every single. gaslighting technique that is possible. He's done every single one. And every.

guy should have a female friend who is a. huge huge maneater. [ __ ] Jack like. goes on dates with seven dudes, gets. money from all of them, sending the same. text to all of them. All I'm [laughter]. >> But my point my point is everyone should. have that person in their life because. then you can see it from that now it. helps with cross- sex mind reading and. then also understanding, hey, I grant. that I'm a man. My testosterone is se my. testosterone levels is 17 times higher. than the average woman. My necessity for. sex is going to be different than hers.

in her situation. Her necessity for my. status is probably going to be more. important. And I I can't understand that. unless I have a bunch of female friends. who've helped me understand that. concept. >> Yeah, that's what makes us great dating. coaches, right? Obviously, >> you guys are the two best in the world. >> I think so, actually. >> Okay. Now, [ __ ] on first dates. >> Yeah. I think if a if a woman [ __ ] you. on a first date, it's a really good sign. of like a lot of chemistry and she's. really into you. She [ __ ] right. And. honestly, ages women that [ __ ] you on. the first date are more likely to be. great girlfriends in my opinion.

>> Wow. Dude, I [ __ ] agree. This is the. [laughter] You like the idea? Yeah. >> You guys had You've made a guy way. before though, right? >> I mean, yeah, >> but you didn't like him. >> It just depends. Like, if I really like. you, I'm not going to hold back. >> Okay. Okay. So, so is there a boyfriend. in the [ __ ] boy box? >> Do I [laughter] say you like the guy? Of. course, boyfriend. >> I I have I have I will I will say this. I think what we're trying to figure out.

is like [ __ ] on the first date bad or. good. I think as a woman, whether you. actually physically [ __ ] on the first. date or not, >> that's besides the point. As a woman, you know, on the first date if you want. to [ __ ]. >> Oh, wow. I. >> I wouldn't go I wouldn't go that. [laughter]. way. >> I feel like if you don't know, you don't. get dressed for the date. NO, NO, NO. THE DATE NO MATTER what because. >> you don't like that. >> Yeah. If you say you're going to go out. >> again, she's a she's a self-actualized. human being. >> Okay. Most [laughter].

I would say most I can tell you% of. dates. 80% of dates that men set up, they get. done. >> Yes. Correct. What you're saying is that. >> Yeah. >> I would I I I would encourage people. even in my most [ __ ] up time. If you. say you're going to do something, >> say I'm going to go on a date. Go on the. date. >> Flake is lying. Men need to understand. >> That's what I'm saying. >> To be flaked on, she is a liar. She said. she's going to do something. She didn't. do it. And when you when you try to be. understanding and give her another. chance, you are rewarding this [ __ ] for.

lying to you. So, do not do not give her. bad behavior ever. >> How should you respond when she says, "Oh, you know what? Can't make it.". >> Uh, pick uh this is the part where you. select a day that works. That's what I. said. I like that's a Wow, that's a. solid [ __ ] answer right there. >> Yeah, I'm [ __ ] I'm the best. I ghost. them. I. >> say this is the part where you where you. where you pick a day that works or look. if if she flicks on you, she has to. reschedule and [ __ ] pay. I MUTE THEIR. INSTAGRAM. LET'S GO. [laughter].

I would say whether you're a man or a. woman, if somebody flakes or I would. always give like, okay, you get one if. something happened, whatever. Okay. >> But they have to be enthusiastic about. reception. >> Exactly. Exactly. And then if they're. not super enthusiastic. >> Yo, can I tell YOU GUYS SOMETHING? I. swear on my life I started a new thing. this summer. Just it just happened. I I. flaked on a girl and then she wanted she. wanted me more. >> I So I flaked on the second date and. then she wanted me more. >> I tell all my clients now flaking on. purpose. >> You I tell all my clients to flake on.

the second date, >> bro. Oh, >> a second date. A second date flake. though. That's mysterious, >> right? Exactly. Exactly. SO I TELL GUYS. TO DOUBLE DATE. Double double book dates always double. book and cancel. I. >> agree with that. >> Wow. >> Oh, that's a mysterious event. >> Here's the answer. >> No, but it's not in a mean way. It's. like, you know, life happens. Let's. let's reschedule. >> But they get all but they go like, "Oh, man. I wanted to see." Like, you have to. give a woman this feeling. Oh, I really.

wanted to see him. If she never gets. that feeling, bro, she's not going to. she's not going to like you. >> Yeah. Flaking is flaking. [laughter]. >> That's fair. A second date flakes. >> I'm a fan. Yeah, >> I'm a fan. Yeah. Yeah, like. >> that's a that's very unexpected. >> You like that one? >> Uh I I know that it would work. I know. I know definitively it would work. I. will I will say this. The issue is not. whether or not she sleeps with you on. the first date. The issue is when she. makes you wait to sleep with you on the. first date because in her mind, you're a.

long-term prospect but did not make. other men wait. That is the issue. So if. you're a woman who you consistently make. a month, as long as it's the same for. everyone, then there's no. discrimination, then it's fine. It is. this ridiculous belief. Well, I sleep. with guys on the first date, but this. one guy, he's special. I like him, so. I'm going to make him wait. She doesn't. understand that what happens in the. situation, especially if this guy knows. through social circle that this woman. has slept with guys on the first date, he starts acting weird. He starts. getting um he starts getting a little.

insecure. and and and and in in her mind. she's also there's this part of her. brain that sleeps with guys on the first. date and the algorithm is saying why. haven't I [ __ ] this guy this is like. the third date now she's getting used to. not sleeping with this guy and getting. validation. >> 100% you become friends. >> and it gets and it gets worse and worse. because of the situation. >> it builds up the pressure for the sex. >> but if she is a woman who consistently. makes guys wait then it's fine to make a. guy wait if she's a guy who consistently. sleeps with guys on the first date but. doesn't do it with you then that's when. there's an issue. >> you know when you've been doing the.

waiting game And then you're on like. date six, seven. [ __ ]. >> AND YOU BOTH OKAY. FIVE, SIX, SEVEN. But. you both know tonight's the night. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I hate those. I've never been on a. million days in a mill. I've gone I've. gone [ __ ] 40. >> Okay. Okay. But you know what I'm. saying? You know when you know it's the. night and you've built. >> No. I got no idea. >> You know, like we we did WE DID THE. COFFEE date and then you did like the. No, I'm I'm way too I'm way too sexually.

polarizing. I'm way too sexually. polarizing. Women either want to [ __ ] me. or they don't want to [ __ ] with me. And. there's no nothing in between really. >> But what I'm saying is when you know. it's the night. I hate the pressure. >> Even if it's like halfway [laughter]. through the first date because you know. you're like [ __ ]. >> I don't feel that way at all. I feel so. happy for her that she's going to get to. have sex with me. I don't feel that way. >> Oh, I'm scared to death. >> Not only that, like like I troll you. guys. [laughter]. I think I think most. >> first date so you [ __ ] hammer, bro. Most I think most women should be.

selective and I think most women should. not. >> nice. [laughter]. Oh wow. >> If we had eight nines, we wouldn't be as. good at getting to the. >> G. We'd be dumber. [laughter]. >> What do you. >> Oh my god, bro. He's got a hander. [laughter]. >> What do we got? Oh, he's doing he's. doing his thing. >> Oh, you're going to send him a picture? >> I no, [laughter] you can't do that. That's a violation. >> Wait, I just want to say what you guys.

have is what I think should be copy. pasted across America. >> That is the ideal relationship is. wonderful and I wish it was more. popular. [laughter]. >> You know, I've never had a bisexual. girlfriend. >> Well, guys, that's an hour 20. >> I think we did. Hour 20, bro. >> Anyone have final thoughts they want to. put out? >> Um, >> final thoughts, CJ? >> Uh, final [laughter]. >> final thoughts. Um, >> be more like Mike and and Hunt.

>> Um, [laughter]. >> I'll just say, uh, don't forget everyone. to the ladies, women are born with our. power and men have to earn earn their. power. So, don't let them forget it. >> But you're on a declining power scale. and we're [laughter] on an upwards one. >> That's that's kind of the turnaround. You got to be in the middle somewhere. >> Mhm. >> It's uh it's easier for women, better. for men. >> Would you rather would you rather be a. guy or girl in 2026? >> A guy. Mike, really? >> I would rather be a man, but that's I'm. a little because I enjoy being able to,

you know, lift things. >> Oh, last question for both of you. How. big of [ __ ] would you be if you were a. woman in 2026? >> That's a good one. >> No, I'd probably [laughter] be like her. I would probably only [ __ ] for money. >> I would probably date transactionally if. I was a woman. >> Yeah, that's fair. >> So, we're okay with girls doing it? >> Yeah. I don't care what you guys do. I. don't give a [ __ ] about these. >> OH, LAST QUESTION FOR [laughter] YOU. GUYS. If if the rules were reversed, we. just woke up one day in some bizarre. world where women are paying dudes and. now we're the prostitutes and this and.

that, wouldn't we all do it, too? >> Yeah, I would. >> I don't know if we'd all do it, but I. think what I think. the point [laughter]. >> No, I THINK THE POINT YOU'RE making is. that men can't do it and that's why they. >> I think I think the other point is it. might to some people to most people to a. lot of people it might not be moral, but. being but having sex for money is not. irrational. I think that's that's part. of the the issue. It's not irrational, but for a lot of people, for religious. reasons or moral reasons or just the. fact that like if you have sex with more. people, it's hard harder to keep a.

maintain a relationship. There are. reasons why you wouldn't do it, but it. is not irrational. From a game theory. perspective, it is not irrational. So, >> agreed. [ __ ] Brandy, give us a final. thought. >> Um, I don't know. I agreed with what you. said. [laughter]. >> What are you looking for right now, Brandy? Who can date you? Uh, somebody. generous and doesn't care that I go out. and they have to stay inside. [laughter]. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. >> Yeah, cuz you never bring a arm piece. ever. >> You don't bring a get weighed down.

>> Why would you bring [laughter] sand to. the beach? >> You never bring sand to the beach. >> She's soft launching. >> No, never. >> I mean, ideally, I would like to date. somebody that would be in the same rooms. as me where I don't feel like I have to. like. >> And you kind of just check on them. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I like that. Like we're both. getting invited. >> Mhm. >> Right. Right. >> Not a loser. >> Got it. [laughter] Okay. Great show, guys. >> Great show. Great [ __ ] Love you all. See you next week.