Kylie on Kids' Halloween Costume Reveal, Working When Pregnant & Scandal Secrets w/ Kerry Washington

Hi, Poo Boooo Bear. Show her your nails. Maybe  she likes your nail polish. I was still working. 16-hour days. I was still wearing high heels.  My OB at one point was like, "I'm calling. Shondaanda." I was unaware that calling Princess  Catherine, Princess Kate, was offensive. She told. me that she's telling dad that she's asking for  a stuffed cat with a wink. Julia has my heart. I. think she's killing it. At one point, the director  comes up to us and says like, "You know what, ladies? We just need to go one more time."  time. Julia looked at the director and she said, "We will go as many times as you want if you take  off your coat." Not going to lie, few things hit.

harder than when you get to girl talk with your  3-year-old. Let me set the scene. She gets in the. minivan after I pick her up from preschool and I  say, "How was your day?" She starts trying to tell. me about a friend that she met and how she had  brown hair and a dress on. And I say, "Was it a. pretty dress?" and she says, "Yes." She restarts  the story and says, "The girl with brown hair.

and the pretty red dress." And then we're just  gossiping. And by gossiping, I mean telling lovely. stories about how that friend was really nice  and they played together in the dress up closet. That's girlhood. Let's get  this podcast started. [music]. Welcome back to a brand new episode  of Not Going to Lie, a Wave Original, brought to you by All State. I'm your host, Kylie  Kelsey, adamant partaker in Gilmore Girls Fall,

which might have just been swapped out  for Scandal Fall. I wonder why. Anyway, if I were watching Gilmore Girls,  I would think, oh no, [sighs]. is it Jess? Is it Dean? Is it Logan? Who is  it? Who is it? It's not Logan. I know that. Fictional hostess of an NFL Sunday watch party  where I'm absolutely panicking cuz everyone's. coming over and they want to watch every game.  I'm so sorry that you have to keep seeing that.

We were watching games yesterday because go Uncle  Trev and go Chiefs. And my goodness, I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry. And most importantly, the  mother of a seven-year-old. Oh no. No. Oh. no. That's right. Tomorrow is Wyatt's birthday.  [gasps and sighs] It's so rude. It's so honestly,

it's just at this point disrespectful. I don't  like it. I'd like it to stop. And it's interesting. that she keeps getting older and I'm still 24.  Wyatt did pick out her birthday theme. I have. a list of things that she has informed me are  imperative for her birthday celebration. One of. which is a puppet show. So, wish me luck. She does  want a chocolate a chocolate cake and then vanilla.

cake and then and with vanilla buttercream  but then with blue ice. I'm unsure any big. gift she's asking surprise surprise she's my child  for a cat and she told me that she's telling dad. that she's asking for a stuffed cat with a wink.  Coming up on today's episode, my favorite cuddly,

sometimes scaly segment is back. It's adoptable  animals of the month. Our friends from the PSPCA. are about to surprise me with three new animals  that could be yours. Come on down. After that, somehow this episode will get even better  because get your big ass bowls of popcorn. Can I get it? Can I get it? Get your big  ass bowls of popcorn and an even bigger.

glass of red wine because it's handled.  That's right. We got Olivia Pope herself, aka the icon. How do I get to talk to the  incredible people I get to talk to? I'm in. places I have no business being talking to people  I have no business being. It's Curry Washington. Okay. Calm down, Kylie. I already spoke  to her and my armpits are sweaty. So,

was I nervous? Yes, I'm always nervous talking  to the incredible people I get to talk to, but also she's delightfully funny and stunning.  But first, let's start things off with our real. one comment of the week. So, first up, an entry  for the comment hall of fame and a reminder that. maybe there's actually no such thing as too much  information on this show. Someone commented, "Oh my gosh, girl, you made my week  between my mom in the hospital again.

and my cheating ass husband. who thinks  sending naked photos to other people. Oh, then his own wife is okay. Tomorrow is going to be  a minute of fresh air. Canadian flag, heart hands. [snorts].

I've said it before and I'll say it again.  This podcast has really settled into its. intended demographic. And we have what some  people would consider a fan base or a group of. listeners or regulars that really they get that  they get it. Okay, this woman gets it. We're so. happy she's here and we're also so happy to know  the details of the messy week that she had. Um,

we hope that your mom is feeling better and [ __ ]  your husband. Am I right? Okay, just if I I had. to say it. If you're watching this, Shannon, um,  leave his ass. And lastly, I'm going to go out on. a limb here and assume we have some incoming rage  bait. Gosh, why you do this? Princess Catherine. is too refined and beautiful to be subjected to  your cursing. You'll need to clean up your act.

First of all, you're correct. [laughter] What?  What? Yes, agreed. I don't think that anybody. owes me anything. Let me emphasize that I would  love to speak to the Princess of Wales, okay? Because of many reasons. She is an incredible  woman. She has children. She played field hockey.

She battled cancer. There are so many things that  I would love to speak to her about. Do I think she. has time to hop on this podcast? No, I do not.  I don't think that. Would I curse at her face? No. Here's the thing. I love a curse word. I love  it so so much. I love curse words. You guys know.

that. But at the end of the day, I am respectful  of the situations that I am put in. At least being. respectful to the people I am speaking to. I don't  go out in public and just let the fbombs fly, okay? Cuz I like to be respectful of the  individuals around me. If I don't know that you're. into that, then I'm not going to start chucking  curse words at your face. Guys, here's the deal.

I love learning. So, I was unaware that calling  Princess Catherine Princess Kate was offensive. I didn't know that. Now I know that. Now I will  proceed accordingly. I apologize for the mistake. I would like to refer to people in the most  respectful way and how they feel respected. So I, Princess Katherine, it is or the Princess of  Wales, I apologize. I will get that sorted. immediately starting now. All right, that's  it for Real One Comments of the Week. Next up,

let's get to scrolling with Doom Scroll of the  Week brought to you by BJ's Wholesale Club. First, it's October, which means type A people everywhere  have gone all out with perfect Halloween decor. Luckily, we have Nikki Marie holding it down for  us type C's. Show us, show us, show us her porch. [music] Yes. and a mum. A ghost and  a mum. Guys, what more could you ask.

for? Really? We have go three ghosts  that go in the front lawn. Some years, some years there are ghosts. Typically, there's  at least one pumpkin on the porch until those, we call them doofuses in our house. until the  doofuses get to them. Those are the squirrels. Okay, squirrels. That's their best snack. Okay.  And don't do not come in these comments talking.

about, "Oh, do you know how to get the squirrels  not to eat your pumpkins? You need to wash them. in this and then coat them in." How many times  I got to tell you, I'm type C. I am purchasing. that pumpkin. I am bringing it home. I am taking  it out of the car and carrying it to the front. porch. If it makes it to the front porch, we are  lucky. Penny does want to be Leila from Teen Beach.

movie because she wants to wear red lipic. That's  literally the red lipic and high heels. Oh, and a. pink jacket. Those were her those were her bullet  points in order. some point she mentioned that Ila. wears a bra for a shirt and I was like, "Homie,  I think not." And she said, "Okay, tank top." So, Benny's costume is actually figured out. I just  have to order it. So, one down, three to go. Next.

scroll. I'm not sure I've related to a clip more  than this one. I feel it in literally all of my. bones. Queen Emma of the clip, please. It says,  "Why are moms over stimulated and their child's. foot is literally Oh god, it's always touching  them." Okay. No, no. Last night, just last night,

I was in the kitchen trying to make dinner.  And no matter where I went in the kitchen, I had a child holding on to my pants. Now, this is  over stimulating for a few reasons. First of all, I want to go places in my kitchen while  I'm cooking without a resistance shoot on, okay? I don't need you dragging me in the opposite  direction. Also, it kind of tugs your pants down,

which oh gosh, gives me the shivers. I And then to  top it all off, the the the cherry on top really. is when she tries to squeeze herself between me  and the cabinet to push me backwards and tell me. to pick her up. Also, whenever you sit down on  the couch and then all of a sudden it's one's.

on top of you and then the youngest sees that  and then they get pissed off cuz they're like, "That's that's my mom." And then they're on top  of you and then the older ones are like, "Hey, I was sitting there." And then suddenly you are  under three of your four children. Now I want to. preface this with I would say 75% of the time  I'm like, "Hell yeah. Put me at the bottom of. my child dog pile." Okay. a thousand% 75% of the  time I I'm like, "Get get over here. Get in here.

Hurry up." That 25% of the time, I need you to  stop touching me. For the people who are like, "You can hold in your can while you're cooking."  I do. I do. [laughter] For those of you who want. to come in with snarky comments, my husband  tried. Okay. It was not a dad day. It was. not a dad day for Finley and Kelsey. So, you  can take those ideas and shove them right up.

back in your ass where they came from. That was  aggressive and I'm standing by it. And lastly, football is back and so are perfectly curated  game day spreads. I could literally never come. close to it's never going to look like this. Queen  Emma the clip, please. I made these black garlic. chicken wings. Of course you did. and these oven  parmesan fries from the kitchen cookbook along. with this anti pasto pan pizza. What I mean, look  at the crust all the way around. And I made these.

pretzel tots with a chili crisp mustard and this  whipped ricotta with olives, crispy shallots, and all good with some toasted bread. Yes. It must  feel so good to look at your finished product and. have people come and enjoy your food and your  spread. I mean, outstanding. It's not going to. be me. The good news is is that I can still do  a spread. It's just probably not going to be.

oven baked parmesan. You know what I mean? So,  uh, the good news is I have the support of many. Uh Nana will help, Jason will help if he's  around. The girls will help enthusiastically. but unproductively. The other supportive the  supportive cast in this situation is BJ's for.

same day delivery. And I'm not just saying that.  Um last weekend I ran out of paper towels and I. needed more grapes for lunches. The crispiest,  crunchiest grapes, let me tell you. And then. on top of that, we need snacks. Everybody knows we  need snacks. You need sneaky snacks for games. So, we got them delivered right to our door. And I'm  guess what? I'm going to do it again. Maybe even. this afternoon. I might not be doing these  homemade wings. But I could get my favorite.

chicken fingers, which are the Just Bear lightly  breaded chicken fingers. They have chicken fingers. and chicken bites or chicken nuggets. I don't know  what they're called. You gota you got to I can't. give you everything. And when all else fails,  Uncrustables, guys, if it's good enough for the. football players you're watching, it's good enough  for you. Also, you have to eat the Uncrustables. when they're not fully thawled. [sighs] There's  something so good about when the bread is thawled,

but the but the peanut butter is still a little  bit firm. That's the best time to eat Uncrustable. You know how you warm it up to that? You're not  expecting me to say this. Put it under your leg. Yeah, you're welcome. And guess what? You  got two legs. Just a thought. All right, that's it for Doomscirl of the Week brought to you  by BJ's Wholesale Club. Join today with a special. one-year membership offer at just $10. Learn more  at bjs.com/kylie Kelsece. Now it's time. We made.

it, guys. We made it. [gasps] Let's get to our  adoptable animals of the month brought to you by. All State. If you would like to support the PSPCA,  you can do so by either adopting these animals or. you can donate uh at the PSPCA's website. We  love to partner with the PSPCA. There are lots. of adoptable animals in many different shelters,  foster homes, and uh rescues across the country.

Please feel free to look into your local rescue.  Find out if there's any adoptable friends there. that you might want to bring home. Enough of  that though because that's that's housekeeping. This is Brownie. He is a great Pyrenees mix maybe.  Or maybe he's just a great Pyrenees. He does look. very great and easy. He has big old paws so  you know he's going to be a big boy. Puppy.

Hi puppy. Hey you. [laughter] And don't  tell him he may or may not have just two. brain cells in there rubbing together  trying to make a spark. He's going to. be huge. And so one of the things about Great  Pyrenees, much like any other giant breed dogs, is that you should have experience with big  dogs. Oh, he could just stay foster him.

I can't wait until Jason catches on to the idea  that when I start fostering animals that none. of them leave. It's such a shame when none of them  get adopted when we foster them. H weird. God, his. freaking eyeballs going the opposite directions  is unreal. Look at his speckly nose. You could. get some cats. You could guard them. See what I  did there? Do you want to be a Kelsey? No. Okay, I get that. Too much estrogen. Oh. Oh my gosh. Are  you kidding? Look at this puppy. [gasps] He looks.

so small in person when his head on here looks  huge. He's literally like maybe like 3 to 5 months. old. He was rescued by the animal law enforcement  team. He came in with a bunch of other puppies and. um but he's the only one who hasn't  gotten a home. Only him. Last man.

standing. Are you kidding me? Guys, get him.  I'm making a dog shed. You could live in it. He was like, "The [ __ ] I am not. Do you want to. be part of our zoo? I'll let you go now.  Okay. I love you. I'll never forget it. Guys, this is Bun Bun. Look at her. You are so  pretty. Oh my goodness. Okay, she was rescu I.

feel like I have to take my We just had a very  playful moment and now we're taking it down. We're. calming down. Okay. She's colored like a ragd  doll cat. Interesting. Um, she does have she has. um ongoing treatment for her congenital defect  affecting her hind leg. This that's what this wrap.

is for. Okay. She has a little little wrap. Oh,  there it is. A little wrap back here for her foot. Don't worry about that. She's You'd think,  "Wow, does that make her imperfect?" No, it does not. She's actually more perfect. Are  you [ __ ] kidding me? Oh, no. I think I want. a bunny. The girls like bunnies. Should we  see if Benny's home? I might have to let my.

mom come powder. Is her head resting on my  arm? Is that going to make me cry? Oh no. We shouldn't be allowed to do this segment,  but like let's keep doing it. Hi. There's. a little animal I just want you to pet real  quick. It's um It's not what you think it is, but you can bring Benny if she promises to be  quiet. Hi, Boo Boo Bear. Come feel her. Be gentle.

Isn't she so soft? Come feel her. Oh, okay. Is he saying? Yeah. Mom, she Her name is  Oh my god. Wait a minute. Backwards. What? The fact that she stays when you've had her  again. I cannot explain how that is like so.

exciting to me. She's so freaking cute. No. Oh,  I can't get over that. You got to pet it really. gently. Go ahead. Oh my goodness. Is that not  one of the softest things you've ever touched. in your whole life? Yeah. That's the same. I  mean, it's the soft one of the softest things. I've ever petted in my whole life. And I'm 34  years old. You only have three years of petting. things. Want to pet it some more? Her name is Bun  Bun. How cute is that? Cuz she's a little bunny.

Do you think she likes your your nail polish?  Show her your nails. Maybe she likes your. nail polish. Go like this. Look, Bun Bun.  Yesterday we painted our nails. Okay, Bun Bun, you are perfect. Perfect. Perfect. And I just  know that someone's going to come and adopt you. Okay, everyone. This is Rocky. Rocky  is 5 years old, a scotta tortoise. Now,

that's the only thing stopping Queen Emma  from taking this tortoise home because. she's a turtle girl. Turtles, tortoises, two  different things. Don't be ridiculous. Now, I'm basing this solely off of the Galopagos  tortoises that we had the pleasure of meeting. at the Philadelphia Zoo. Is there a way to pet  her? She has nerves. She can feel that we touch. her shell. Yeah. Great. And then she's so cool  looking. It's crazy to go from bun bun to this.

Rocky needs someone to come and adopt her who is  going to take her lifespan into consideration. So, she's 5 years old. She has potentially  145 years of life left in her on average, which is insane to think. So, someone is  going to have to consider that there will be. a generational interest in this animal. Do you  hear her breathing? Did you know that someone,

the right person, can adopt Rocky? That means  that she can go home and live at their house. You think I'm lying to you, don't you? Yeah. Should she come to my  house? Should she go live in Emma's house? Oh, what if Simon wants a tortoise?  If you're babysitting Simon, will you babysit Rocky? Yeah. Perfect. Look at  that. We got all our care lined up. I'm going.

to try my best not to feed her the mic,  but to get some ASMR of her breathing. She needs to go to a family that's invested  in having her for many, many years. But also, it needs to be a tortoise exper experienced  household. She's going to make you work for.

it cuz you should. As Carrie Washington would say,  you should earn it. How about that? Full circle. Gosh, they're so cool. This has been the adoptable  animals of the month brought to you by All State. Get out of here. Next up is Carrie Washington.  The real ones already know about my love for BJ's. Wholesale Club and football season, but you might  not know all about my favorite things that get.

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it's important to All State because home is where  you make all your memories. Like when you finally. have a moment to yourself, so you sneak into the  pantry for a treat. But your toddler catches you, so you got to share. I'll always remember their  little voices saying, "Can I have some?" If it's. important to you, it's important to All State.  Switch to All State and you could save hundreds. on home insurance today. Not available in every  state. Potential savings vary. Subject to terms. and qualifications. All State North American  Insurance Company and affiliates. Northbrook, Illinois. Can I ask you a question? Like, how  is it that this is our first conversation with.

each other? That sounds so strange to me. Let me  tell you, I just [laughter] absolutely love and I. always I always admit this cuz I I always have  like a a not going to lie situation. I'm going. to give you my not going to lie right now. Not  going to lie. What's your not going to lie? I. have been waiting to watch Scandal. Oh. For what?  I couldn't tell you because [laughter] now that. I like the right moment because I'm telling you  this us getting to have this conversation today.

pushed me to start it. Oh, [sighs and gasps] you  can catch me in the depths. I I mean [gasps] I'm. so happy. Thank you for watching. I mean, it's no  surprise because of how loved the show is. Yeah, we're so And how incredible the crew was. I mean,  Shondaanda at work again. I'm the whole thing.

Yeah. Well, okay. I'm going to try and read your  intro. Hopefully, I don't mess it up too much cuz. I don't know if my coffee kicked in yet, but we'll  try. [laughter] Um, she's the Emmy award-winning. queen, you know, from Scandal, Save the Last  Dance, Little Fires Everywhere, Imperfect Women, and soon her brand new movie Animals out on  Netflix on October 9th. She's also a fellow mom, a fellow retired NFL wife. We're going to get into  that. And now she's officially, not going to lie, Carrie Washington. Welcome to the show. Thank  you. I'm so happy to be here. Oh my gosh,

I'm so excited. I mean, I already told you I'm  diving into Scandal. It's amazing. But the the. other connection right now that we're in football  season, we are. I was so excited when I realized. that our husbands played together. They were in  Philly together. Yeah. So for like 2 years they. were together. And I asked Nomdi this weekend.  I was like did you cuz I didn't know. I was like. did you guys play together? He was like yes we  played together for 2 years. He said when he.

went to Philly was actually your husband's rookie  year. Mhm. And he was like, I just remember being. so impressed with him because as a rookie, you  don't always see guys who have that much like. maturity and leadership at such a young age. I  thought that was so nice, so I wanted to share. that. That's very sweet. I was really hoping you  were going to come in with some dirt cuz we love. to just find find something to ditch. Yeah. Just  like go back to my husband and be like, "Really?

You did that?" You know? No. But I have to like  Nami doesn't he's not like freewheeling with the. compliments and he has really high standards when  it comes to like leadership and maturity and so I. was I it meant it means a lot for him to say that.  Well that's very kind. Does your husband reflect. fondly on his time in Philadelphia? Like did he  enjoy the city? Yeah, we love I actually Yeah, we. root for the birds. We do. I mean, we root for a I  root for a lot of teams because of him, you know,

like he retired he played for the Raiders for  over a decade and retired with the Raiders. So, I I that's a team that I really love, but I also  we loved our time in Philly. We love the Eagles. We root for the Eagles. I also cuz I grew up  in New York. So, Philly was somewhere we went. like we used to go to the Pen Relays every year  when I was a kid cuz my dad ran track and so we. did our annual trip to the Pen Relays and we  would go to the Franklin Institute. They had. this incredible exhibit with this heart that  you could walk through as a kid. It's the best.

and love that love that museum. Um, so yeah, I  I Philly has a holds a really special place in. my heart. I loved our apartment in Philly. Oh my  god. Well, I have so much to ask you about today, but I feel like I couldn't not get right into  Scandal, which we already dipped into because. now I'm in it. Thank you for watching. Now I'm  in it. You're welcome to like text me along the. way. I'm going to warn you. You're on a crazy  roller coaster ride. It's going to get nuts. Just strap your seat belt on, stay in, enjoy the  ride. I'm excited. And honestly, like I said,

all of the hype that I have heard for years and  years and years about this show. Makes It makes. so much sense. It's all [laughter] It's all It's  all making sense. But I do have I was told that I. needed this and I needed this. I love I love it.  It's super early in the morning for red wine. Is. is that is that something else in there? It's a  Shirley Temple. Okay, good. [laughter] I was like,

girl, it's a Shirley Temple. Um, I have this  because popcorn. So, for those of you who don't. know, I have a big bowl of popcorn and a glass of  Shirley Temple. Of course, I've heard that it's. called the Olivia Pope dinner. It is. That's what  she did. Alone in her apartment. I love that so. much. I loved it, too. I'm sure you've seen these  Tik Toks. We have one right here for reference. [laughter].

The size of this [music] glass is  outstanding. So good. Yes. [laughter]. Amazing. Yes. [laughter] Whole bottle and then  whole bag of popcorn. Now, [laughter] how do you. feel about this being one of the lasting legacies  of the show? [laughter] I mean, I'm also It's the.

face she's making that like grimace [laughter]  that people that horrible meme of the grimace, which actually to be honest came later more for  me. Like that was a [laughter] anyway, it's a very. long explanation, but it's it's crazy. It's crazy  that she holds a space in people's imaginations. so firmly still. It's kind of humbling. I don't  know. It's It's wild. Yeah. Do you have your own.

Olivia Pope dinner that like if you got home,  what would be your drink and giant snack of. choice? I don't really drink. I don't either.  Wait, [laughter] I know. It's all fake. All the. red wine is fake on the show. Do you like Do you  like popcorn though? I do. I love popcorn. Oh, okay. [laughter] Good. I was going to say that  might be harder. No, no. I love popcorn. Just. fashioning some fake popcorn. I really love This  is so crazy. But I really love the brownies from.

Goop. Oh, okay. I'm into this. [sighs and gasps]  So, that's like a And I also love Do you know. the company Cete Foods? They do like gluten-free  chips. Okay. So, any of their like their cassava. chips or their tortilla chips with guacamole that  I make. That's definitely a comfort snack. Um, guac is such a good answer for this because  [sighs and gasps] I I genuinely think it's.

kind of like deileled eggs. If you think too  much about how many avocados you're eating, you might get grossed out. Like, you can't think  about that. And then you just keep scooping. Yes. I truly think I could eat a vat of specifically  homemade guac. Yeah. There's another phenomenon. online called mom dinner. Have you seen this? No.  Okay. So, it's basically like when you feed your. kids mac and cheese and then mom stands over  the pot and like eats the scraps of the mac.

and cheese. Yeah. This is that's what I related  this to. When I saw Olivia poop dinner, I'm like, "This makes sense. This is like mom dinner or girl  dinner, you know, like we just Yeah. We love an. excuse not to eat a an [snorts] appropriately  portioned meal, you know, full meal. I mean, I'm literally thinking of myself last night at  dinner after cooking dinner for the fam. How I. like will clean the kitchen while continuing to  eat the vegetables that I took the pot of I took.

the pot of pasta to the table. I took the little I  took the little sauce pan pasta [clears throat] to. the table. My three-year-old looked at me like  I was crazy cuz I usually don't take it to the. table. I think she was more surprised that I was  sitting down. That was crazier than her. Good for. you. Progress. You know what, Mom? Go ahead.  [laughter] How old are your kids? How And you. have four? Four of them. Next week I will have a  seven-year-old, which is very exciting. But six, five, three, and one. Wow. Mhm. We're in it in  it, girl. Yes. How are you doing a podcast? Um,

sometimes I can't put a sentence together, but  we have a really great editing team. King Brad, he makes it seem like I can form a thought.  That's cool. [laughter] A beautiful thing. Yes. You're like really in it. How are you doing? Uh,  it depends on the day today. Okay. Everybody got. to school. We only had one minor crash out this  morning. And with three out the door to school,

I feel like those are pretty good odds. That's  huge. Yeah. Wow. Parenting is no joke. It's no. joke. It's not. It humbles you. It's no joke.  I think that's one of the greatest gifts of. being a mom is how humble it requires you to be.  They're just they have this degree of honesty that. is refreshing and uh will knock you off your  feet. Yeah. Check you. Yeah. It'll check you.

hard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I feel like that's  good for me, particularly in this business. Like. it's it's so good that my kids don't care about  any of the like they could care less about Olivia. Pope. They could care less about a magazine cover,  a movie premiere. They're like, "What am I having. for dinner? Help me with my math homework. Like,  where are you going?" Like, they're just that's. that that is their world. And I love that. Yeah,  I love that. Plus, if they say the humbling things.

at home, when people say it to you outside of the  house, it doesn't hurt nearly as bad. You're like, I'm like, you can't hurt my feelings. My son  already told me to change my outfit. [laughter]. When I get comments about like, "Wow, Kylie is  pregnant again." I'm like, "No, no, excuse me. My. three-year-old already told me my belly squishy."  Okay, you don't need to comment on it, too. Jiggly, squishy. It's sweet, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah.  Mhm. Now, um, one other thing that I wanted to.

bring up about Scandal and specifically on Tik  Tok. I have one more that I would love to play. because this one you commented on. Oh, you said  yes. Wrong answer. You do not see him standing. here because if you did see him standing  here, then I want to know how he got here. Was he arrested? Were you arrested? No. Oh, but he  wasn't. What in the was he getting out the street,

put in a patrol car and brought to a police agent  for that sound like the tone, the inflection. nailed every testament to the writing. It's such  a testament to the writing that people are still. doing these monologues a decade later and like  perfecting them. I wish I was as good as he was. Like that casual look off to the side. I'm like,  I don't think I was that subtle. I think I want. to go back and like redo the scene to be as good  as him. So good. Now, according to the internet, I have one of the top quotes here. Um, I'll read  the first part and see if you can finish it. It.

says, "I'm not the girl the guy gets at the end  of the movie. I'm not a fantasy. If you want me, earn me." Yes. The internet loves  that one and appropriately [ __ ] so, right? Because because they should. They need  to earn us. They have to earn us. It's so good. I think the thing that people love about  Olivia Poe, first of all, she's so messy, right? Like in her work professional life, she  really knows her value. And I feel like a lot.

of her journey as a character was figuring out to  how to own her value in her personal life as well. how to be as in control and powerful like  in her romantic life, how to have agency and. um and self-confidence in her love life as  in the way that she did in every other room, in every other situation. Yeah. When I started  playing that character, I understood enough about.

what power looked like in the world, but I wasn't  yet a producer. I had never directed television. I. didn't own a production company. I wasn't married.  I didn't have children. Like she she didn't have. a husband and children. But to learn how to be a  leader in my home, in my career, in my life, to be. like number one on the call sheet or as she would  say, like to have to like it's my name on that. door. Like she taught me how to step into my power  and into my Yeah. She taught me how to how to not.

be afraid to be in power, in my power. Um, and  I'm so grateful to her for that cuz I literally. like walked in her shoes and figured out how to  be a woman with more gravitas and independence. and agency, to have more of a voice, to be more  fearless, to tell more truth in my life. All of.

that I think was like osmosis from playing her.  like she just she taught me how to be more of a. woman. Speaking of being a woman, you were also  pregnant twice during the run of the show. Twice. You can see cuz the bags and the coats get bigger  and bigger and bigger. And I [clears throat] Yeah, the lamps that I'm hiding behind the boxes  I'm holding. I begged Shondaanda Rimes to let. Olivia Pope be pregnant because I felt like I was  violating or like betraying the character, right?

cuz I was like, there's a walk and I I was like  waddling down the hallway like I was like, how can. I be this woman when my body is doing something  totally different from what hers would be doing? But that was really good for me in two ways. One  was I actually I worked for with a coach, one of. my best friends who's an incredible acting coach,  Colleen Basis. I worked with her for my audition, but then I stopped working with a coach for the  first couple of seasons. For the first season,

when I got pregnant, I was like, I don't know how  to play her in this body. The other thing was it. really taught me like Shondaanda's refusal to let  Olivia Pope be pregnant. It occurred to me once. I became a mom that the reason she did that was  because there is so much vulnerability in becoming. a mom. Like when you become a mom, it's that  Barack Obama quote of like suddenly your heart. is outside your body walking around. Like you  love this thing, this person so much and you're.

afraid. And particularly being the mom of a black  child has like additional complexities and fear. associated. And she was like Shondaanda knew that  Olivia Pope couldn't be that vulnerable. She was a. superhero. Like she couldn't be that vulnerable  in the real world. So she didn't let her become. a mom. She actually made the choice on the Oh,  spoiler, but she makes the choice later on down. the road to not be a mom. Were there challenges  within filming where like you were obviously.

growing a human being is not the easiest task. I  am the person who will raise my hand when I say. I did not enjoy being pregnant. I'm very grateful  to have gotten pregnant, but I did not enjoy it. Did you enjoy being pregnant? Did you feel good?  Was there ever any challenges while filming where. you were like, "Got to go for a minute cuz I  have to pee for the hundth time today." So, yes and to all the things like I I I enjoyed being  pregnant, but I also thought it was super weird.

Like I wasn't like romantic about it. You know  what I mean? I was like, "This is very cool, but. also I feel like a walking science fiction movie."  like I'm growing a creature inside like so it was. disorienting. I also had like my [snorts] acne  flared with my first pregnancy which was you know. you're like on a show that millions of people are  watching and I was like what do I do? Um but also.

you might relate to this. I it shifted my  relationship with my body because before I. had been pregnant, if I had had an acne flare,  it would have felt like the end of the world. cuz I was like shooting the cover of a magazine  or walking a red carpet and doing this TV show. Once I was pregnant, I was like, well, this  pregnancy is the most important thing. So, like everything else we're just going to have  to figure out. like we're gonna have to figure.

out the the cleanser for my face that's non-toxic  that'll maybe keep and I'm just gonna have to like. go to the dermatologist more often and I'm just  gonna have to like I'm just gonna have to figure. stuff out because this priority is so clear to me  like my number one job right now is growing this. human. But also I loved the show and loved our  audiences and felt a huge responsibility to not. let the show suffer. So I was still working 16our  days. Um, I was still wearing high heels all the.

way through my entire I mean my OB at one point  was like, "I'm calling Shondaanda like you cannot. be wearing these heels." And I was like, "I can't  not like I have to. I [clears throat] I don't know. how to be here without them." Um, yeah. I I mean,  they did a good job toward the later end of my. pregnancy of helping me to try to not work more  than 12, 14our days. Um, but that was the job. And also, it took me, you know, how when you're  pregnant you have brain fog, right? like your. cuz your half your brain is focused on doing this  thing. So it I used to time out how long it would.

take me to memorize a monologue. It literally  took me twice as long to memorize my scripts. So I'd be like working these long days and then  going home and like trying to learn the material, but it took me but all of that to say like it was  worth it. I love my kids. I love the show. Like it. was probably the hard one. It will as I look back  talking to you right now like that's the hardest I. will ever work because of the physical challenges,  the emotional challenges of being pregnant,

the challenges of being on the show. Like I don't  think I'll ever have to work that hard again in. my life cuz I'm not going to be pregnant again. Um  but I have no regrets. I have no regrets. The idea. of putting in 12 just talking about the minimum  side of what you're talking about 12 to 14 hour. day going in high heels [laughter] going home and  then learning the next day's script. Yeah. When I.

tell you my pregnancy brain Yeah. so intense.  There were days where I truly like I would I. would have to my husband would laugh at me and I  still occasionally have to do this and sometimes. some days are better than others. But when I was  pregnant, I would leave a room to go get something. and I would come back and be like, I don't know  what I went in there for. And then I would go back. into the room when I remember it would be like a  four a four rotation of back and forth and back.

and forth before I was like, you know what? [ __ ]  it. I can't need it that bad if I keep forgetting. [laughter] it. Which is an insane take. It wasn't  that I ended up with the item. It was that I gave. up. I was like, I can't need it that bad if I keep  forgetting. That's not possible. Here's the thing. though, right? Like with all of that, you still  were so high functioning, right? Like all of. your pregnancies, you've also raised other kids at  the same time, right? As of the second pregnancy,

right? You you I think Yes. And your capacity  grows. Like I remember I remember looking at. my daughter when I was pregnant with my son and  thinking like okay my lap is getting smaller as. my belly was getting bigger but like my heart was  getting bigger. So like I knew that I was that as. much as I love this kid I was going to be able to  I love all three of my kids so huge. It just like. my heart just kept getting bigger and bigger. I I  remember walking some red carpet when I was like.

nine months. I think it was the Oscars. I was like  10 months pregnant and um and I remember stepping. on the carpet and like holding in my belly cuz I  had so much muscle memory of like when you're on. a carpet you like hold in your belly and stand  up straight but like holding in my belly was. doing nothing. I had like a giant basketball in  my abdomen. But I was like I can relax. There's. something about pregnancy that taught me how to  relax and surrender. Yes, you have to surrender.

And you thank God pregnancy teaches you that  because so much of parenting is about surrender. and like this I this person is their own person  and it's my job to give them guard rails and. boundaries and help them grow but like they're I  got they're their own person, right? No, that that. that makes a lot of sense. So basically you were  just even more of a badass woman than you show on. screen because you were busy building humans and  pretending like you weren't. That's really hard. to do is what you're saying. It was hard. It was  hard. But we're all I mean, any woman, show me any.

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many spoilers, what made you want to play Abigail?  She's a mom, you know, to like be in to continue. with the conversation we were having. She's a mom  and she faces like a nightmare like every parent's. nightmare of what might happen to your child and  that it's a thriller. The film is a thriller. It's. a very exciting like s edge of your seat kind  of thriller. So I I was very drawn to that. The main reason why I said yes in the beginning to  even reading the script was the director because.

I'm a huge Ben Affleck fan. I love Argo. I love  The Town. I love Gone Baby Gone. Like I just. think he's such a great director and I knew him  like casually like we have friends in common so. we kind of knew each other a little bit. Um but  I had I just have so much respect for him as a. director. So when he reached out to me and said  that he had this project and it was a thriller,

was I available and I was like, well, I definitely  want to read it. And then I knew I would be acting. opposite him and I loved the script for all of  these reasons that like he said to me when when we. jumped on the phone, he was like, you know, it's  a thriller, but in a lot of and the film is about. a lot of things, but one of the things that it's  about for me is about marriage. And I was like, well, that's interesting. And sometimes sometimes  as a woman you'll hear that when people just like. want you to do a movie they're like no it's really  the wife is really important and then you read it. you're like she has one scene but this was like  this really was when I read it I was like oh.

this really is about marriage and about family and  about um about love you know and about community. It's about so many things but it is also this  incredible edge of your seat thriller. So there. are many reasons to say yes and I'm so happy I  did. Now, I don't know if I can share this yet, but I'm going to and we'll see if we can keep it  in. One of the lines in this movie, and I quote, is, "If you tell me again what is an opinion about  my son's life, I will rip your [ __ ] face off.".

[laughter] Staying right on that mother track,  how does it feel to deliver a line like that? I. love you so much because that is my favorite line  of the whole movie. I had to say that line maybe. 50 times. It never got old. I love that line.  [laughter] And and also Steven Yun, who I said the. line to, is just like a gem of a human being and  an actor. And every time I got like more and more.

aggressive, mama bear protecting my son every time  I said it. Like to be in his face, I will rip your. [ __ ] face. Like I just I could say that lie. I  want that line like on my tombstone. I want that. line on a t-shirt. I want that line like written  on a cake. Um I just Yeah, it's one of my favorite. lines of the whole film. So good. I really hope  you keep this in [laughter] because it really did.

speak to like the heart of what it is to be a mom  who's protecting your child. Like you you would. lift up a car. you would you go to the ends of the  earth and this person this character that Steven. Yun was so brilliantly playing was like trying  to be all like strategic and sensible and like. there's no sense to be had if my child's in danger  like no don't talk to me like that rip your [ __ ]. face off [laughter] yeah rip your f every once  in a while in my work I get to show what I like.

to call my original zip code as a girl from the  Bronx and when I have those moments it makes me so. Happy. Yes. [clears throat] Now, as a millennial,  I have to ask you about a classic, Save the Last. Dance. I mean, are you watching Dancing with  the Stars? Are you so excited? In our house, we call it Dancing in the Stars because that's  what my three-year-old calls it. Cute. Don't you. love those little mistakes they make? I'm writing  them all down. I literally have a running note in.

my phone of all the things that are done. We  we still in my house call the remote control a. marot cuz that's what my daughter called it. Like  can you pass me the marot? It was a commote for a. while in our house. Um my So sweet. My oldest used  to I saw a Today is um today we have an Eagles. game this evening. We're Monday night football  tonight. So, okay. Occasionally you'll see like.

jerseys out and about and one of the kids that  was going into school this morning was wearing. my husband's jersey. And on on the way back from  school, I was literally thinking to myself how. our oldest used to say you used to ask her, "What  number is dad?" And she would say, "He's 60 number. two." Instead of 62. That's also in the notes app.  62. That's so cute. And it's sad cuz you think to. yourself like one day they just stop saying it  like they auto correct. I know. They just grow. up. He now knows he's 62. It's that thing. You've  seen that thing on Tik Tok or Instagram of like.

you actually don't know when the last time you're  going to pick up your child is. It killed me. So now I'm like giving my 12-year-old piggyback  rides cuz I'm just like it can't end. I'm like, "Do you want me to do you want to piggyback ride  to your room after volleyball practice?" If she's. tired, I'm like, "I'll piggyback ride you to  your room." You're like, "Today is not the. day." [laughter] I'm going to be like 102 like,  "Can I pick you up?" Like I can't. It's so Oh, it's sad. I know. But but you know what's not  sad? Julia Styles on Dancing in the Stars. So.

exciting that she's Dancing in the Stars, right?  She's doing such a good job. I was going to say, are you rooting for Julia or are you rooting for a  bunch of people? Do you watch the show? I don't I. I I'm we're watch. I will probably cuz my daughter  watches old episodes so we'll probably catch up. We do. Yeah, we'll catch up. I'm sure. But there's  a lot of people that I really love this season. Like I'm a Siara fan. Um I'm also like such a  huge GMO fan. I love him. I love him. Did you see.

So apparently I don't really know the lore that  much because I really get all of my information, my additional information from Tik Tok. Um I saw  I think Whitney, his partner, is pregnant. Is this. correct? I think I'm getting nods. I'm getting  nods because I saw a Tik Tok that said after. GMO's first performance that Whitney was going to  need to take her prenatals cuz she was going to be.

there longer than they thought. Oh. Oh. Which I  love. I love it means that like he's surprising. and everybody and he's going to be the fan  favorite. He's adorable. I just want to put him in. my pocket and take him home. I know. I actually  have an upcoming Jimmy Kimmel appearance to. support animals, but we're like not sure what time  we're sh we're taping the show because it depends. on if GMO's in or not. He might be busy. He might  be busy, so we have to delay. Yeah. So, but Julia.

has my heart. I've known her forever. I think  she's killing it. I think she's extraordinary. I think this is the least that could happen  given the fact that she didn't really get. to go to Giuliard in real life. So like this is a  moment. It's so exciting. Are you aware that she's. received some shade for her moves in Save? Yeah.  In Save Last. Yes. Oh, yes. Now, do you think. she's using that as fuel? Because I hope so. I  hope it's I hope she's using it as bulletin board.

material. I think she's like, for anybody who  doubted me, look at me now. Like you can laugh all. you want, but look at me now. I love it so much.  Now, one scene from Save Last Dance that popped. up on my for you page is the makeover scene in the  car. So fun. So fun. Your line in this is, "It's. country and you look country and you're country  in it." [laughter] How underrated is that scene?

It's so good. I will tell you my favorite thing,  my favorite story about that night is, you know, we have a brief scene outside the car when we get  out of the car. We shot that scene in Chicago. It. was so cold. And the entire crew, we had a lot  of crew, the same crew members who had shot the. film Fargo. And they're all in their Fargo gear,  like down coats from head to toe, boots, mittens,

like ear muffs, masks. Like they're so bundled  up. And we're in these like cute Hollywood nothing. outfits. We're going to the club. So we're doing  the scene. We're doing the scene. We're doing. the scene. It we're freezing. You can see the air  coming out of our mouths. My feet, my hands were. numb. At [snorts] one point the director, I love  this director, Thomas Carter. He's so lovely. The. director comes up to us and says like, "You know  what, ladies? We just need to go one more time.". And I learned so much in this moment because  it was my first studio film. Julia looked at.

the director and she said, "We will go as many  times as you want if you take off your coat.". Perfect. So he was like, "Okay." He took off  his coat. That was our last take. He was like, "This is insane." We were like, "Yes, it's  insane. Thank you for noticing." Yes. Yes. It was It really taught me about advocating for  myself on set. Really, really genius. Mhm. Yeah,

if we're going to suffer, so are you. Take off the  [ __ ] coat. Just understand what you're putting. us through. Like for a moment, think about us as  human beings, right? Like it was really powerful. And I think about it even as a producer now. When  I ask an actor to do something, I'm like, "Wait, let me make sure that I'm not being unreasonable."  It was such a powerful moment. So, she deserves. all her flowers. She's a diva. She's amazing.  That's outstanding. Now, you're like you said, a mom of three, two girls, [clears throat] one  boy. Yes. Correct. And how old are they? Um,

I we have a 20year-old and a who's my  bonus baby and a my daughter and then a. 12year-old and a 9-year-old boy. And how  are you enjoying this phase now at their. current ages? I love it. I like all the phases.  I really do. I know some people are like, "Oh, I like them when they're itty bitty. I like them  when they're older." I'm just fascinated by them. at every age. And I'm really I'm an only child, so  the sibling thing is really fascinating to me. I.

really love seeing all the different dynamics  of birth order and how these two are close in. this way and these two are close in this way and  the three of them are so good together. And it's. really fascinating to me how how having  a sibling informs and changes your life. I do think that that is I think that there's  difficult phases of parenting. Like some phases.

are more difficult [snorts] than others. Some are  just more intensive than others, right? Like some. like right now we're in a very like nobody's  getting up and getting the Our oldest will get. cereal by herself. It might end up in a mess, but  like she tried. Good for you for letting the mess. happen. That's super important. That's what dogs  are for. Um, [laughter] clean the floor, please. Yeah, great. Um, our 5-year-old is still very  much like she wakes up in the morning, she comes. in to find us, and so is our three-year-old. And  I mean, the one-year-old's probably next to us at.

some point in the night. It's we're in a very like  we have more difficult phases, but kind of like. what you're saying is like I don't necessarily  think that I have a favorite. Like I know that I. love love love when they all have started talking  when they you get to hear their voice and you get. to hear their version of words and those moments  are incredible. But then to watch our seven almost. seven-year-old navigate friends at school and sort  of stepping into her confidence and um just the.

other day I said something I don't remember what  I said but I made a comment and she was like we. don't talk about our bodies like that because it  was something where I was like I was like it was. something it had to be like that my pants were  tight or something and she was like we don't talk. about our bodies like that and I was like this  is Such a win for me. Yes. Yes. That I finally.

repeated it enough that it has sunk in and you are  now giving it back. It's moments like that where. I'm like, how can you not enjoy watching them  become themselves? Yeah. It's so exc like it's so. much fun and to get to the whole privilege. It's  such a privilege, right, to watch somebody evolve. and come into themselves and like I remember you  remember there's a point in their childhood where.

every single thing they say, you know, where it  came from, you know, like who said that, what. what they were watching or which family member are  they repeating and then there's that period where. they start going to school, preschool, daycare,  and suddenly they come home and you're like, where where did that come from? Right? like even  just that where you're like, "Oh, I I no longer. have a singular control over what you're exposed  to." And I just I think it's such a privilege to. get to witness and guide and hold space for them.  Now, you've shared that you're a stepmother to.

your oldest. You called her your bonus baby. Um I  feel like stepparents rarely get the appreciation. and the spotlight that they deserve. What's  been the most rewarding part of being a stepmom? I'm just so lucky. You know what I mean? Like I  just [laughter] I just The privilege continues, right? Yes. Yes. Like to control my smile. I'm  just so lucky to get to love her and to know her.

and to to be on her parenting team, you know, like  I I feel so blessed and and the relationship that. my three kids have with each other is so beautiful  and such a gift. And I think a lot about, you. know, I wrote this memoir a few years ago called  Thicker Than Water because I, long story short, found out that my dad is not my biological father.  And that moment of my parents admitting that to me.

like really changed the my family immensely. But  one of the things that I write about in the book. is like it doesn't matter. He's my dad. like this  idea of, you know, having to be blood related to. somebody. It's I I realized actually when I knew  the truth about not being biologically related to.

my dad, it actually brought us closer. It didn't  make us further apart. It didn't estrange us from. each other. It actually made our relationship  more honest and intimate. And that is one of the. greatest gifts of my life is being able to have  that relationship with my parents to be in truth. with them while they're still alive. That's such a  beautiful way to take your own experience and get. to apply it to being a stepmom and knowing that  like just because you are not related by DNA that.

you still choose every single day that that person  is your child. Yeah. And that you will parent them. and love them. pour into them in the same way  that you would no matter what. Yeah. That's so. beautiful. I think these kids choose us. You know  what I mean? Like the ones that come through us, the ones that wind up in our lives in other  ways. Like we're so lucky to just be on this. earth together. Family is so it's so precious  and it happens in so many different ways and.

um so I feel really grateful. Now I also want to  congratulate you on more exciting news. Your show, Street You Grew Up On, is now officially a weekly  podcast. I mean, I All the kids are doing it, Kylie. [laughter] They just give anybody a mic out  here, huh? Out in these streets. [laughter] So, okay, we This is actually It's weird because it's  actually our fifth season, but it's our first. season as a podcast. So, it's been a a digital  series for a few years. I started it during the.

pandemic. My production company is named after  the street in the Bronx that my mother grew up on, Simpson Street. And so I just started like  interviewing people that I love about the streets. that they grew up on. And in our first season,  it was like Michelle Obama and Eva Longoria, like just people that I was like, "What are you  doing? It's a pandemic. Will you come talk to me. about the street you grew up on?" And um and so  now we're like an official podcast with 20 guests. this season. Um and weekly coming out weekly.  It's it's very exciting and it's hard work.

That's why I can't believe you're doing this  with four little itty bitties. Well, you know, when I get to talk to incredible people like you,  [laughter] it really it'll draw you out. Now, people ask me this and I've ended up speaking  my answer into existence. Um, Michelle Obama. being the answer at the time. And then I've never  been sweatier in my entire life [laughter] in this. exact chair. I'm not kidding. It was like two  hours after and I swear I still had pit sneeze.

at some point. I had to wipe my lip sweat away. It  was a problem. It [laughter] was a problem. Did it. go well? I think so. She's incred I I genuinely  think like she could make anybody like you know. those people who just have that way about them  that sort of Yes. make their team look better. Like I always equate it to like team sports. I  know I have had teammates that like just make the. rest of your team better because the way they  bring everybody up. That was her. So, I think.

I could have literally said three words and she  would have just she would have taken the reigns. and saved me from myself. She's special. She's  amazing. But I'm sure you were amazing as well. That's very kind of you. I wouldn't know. I was  sweating and blacking out. You're like I blacked. out. Yeah. I actually have no idea [laughter]  what happened. Um, now do you have a dream guest? He's going to kill me for saying this, but my  dream guest is Nom Di. Perfect answer. We have.

had my husband on this podcast twice now. Three  times. How did it go? Twice. Three times. Three. times. Did he behave well? Was he a good guest? He  was. Um, we did a I say that only because did he. behave? Um, no. He never behaves. Uh, that's part  of his charm. and he ended up using a candy heart. We did a Valentine's Day episode. He used a candy  heart to write on the wall of the studio as if it. was chalk. So, no, we did not behave. [laughter]  But it was it was so much fun to get to sit down.

and in an interview style conversation. I mean,  we talk every day to then get to talk in a more. question answer interview style. It was it was  kind of fun. Like, it was a new adventure to. navigate. Well, I hope that he comes on because  that would be very exciting. So, hopefully we. manifested it. Maybe we peer pressured him into  it a little bit. Maybe he doesn't respond well to.

peer pressure. We have to be like, "It's  fine either way." And then, no, however, however you want to do it. Whatever you want. It's  fine. But if you want to end up there, that'd be. great. [laughter] So great. Um, thank you so  much for coming on. This has been absolutely. incredible. Make sure you watch Carrie in her new  movie, Animals, on Netflix out October 9th. Um, this was incredible. Thank you so so much. Thank  you for having me. I'm so grateful. And that's it. for this episode of Not Going to Lie. You can find  even more clips from my longer conversation with.

Carrie on my YouTube channel on Morship Monday.  Follow on social media, NGL with Kylie for clips. throughout the week. Listen and subscribe wherever  you get your podcast. Not going to lie, is a wave. original brought to you by All State. Thanks  again to the real ones for tuning in. [music]. [music]. Wave.