Did Jean Grey FIX THEIR MEMORIES in Spider-Man Brand New Day?

Did Jean Grey restore MJ and Ned's. memories of Peter Parker or would that. have caused their brains to ooze out of. their noses? I'm Eric Voss of the New. Rockstars channel and let's talk about. what really happened in the final act of. Spider-Man Brand New Day. The final. scene suggests that Ned might have begun. to fully remember Peter from doing the. motions of their shared handshake while. MJ ends this movie sitting on the same. rooftop of the place she sat with Peter. and Ned in No Way Home holding that. broken Black Dahlia necklace that most. represented her ongoing love for Peter. So when Jean possessed MJ and Ned, why.

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of Kof-Kol from Spider-Man No Way Home. The opening Marvel Studios title card. bumper shows how not just these. characters' memories warped but that. physical records of Peter were warped in. interesting ways to keep Spider-Man as. part of the history but remove or. creatively mask Peter Parker's public. connection to any of those events. So. Ned and MJ remember Spider-Man saving. them but only three times. Remembering. the Washington Monument from Homecoming, Tower Bridge in London and Far From Home. and the Statue of Liberty in No Way. Home. They don't remember Spider-Man as. being connected to Venice or Prague in.

Far From Home because in Venice it was. Mysterio and a random dude in a commedia. dell'arte mask who kept smacking into a. bell that saved them there and in Prague. it was Mysterio and the Night Monkey. I. mean society in general remembers. Mysterio as the way his posthumous video. presented himself before the video added. the part about Peter Parker. Mysterio. just being a fallen hero who was at odds. with Spider-Man in London. That's partly. why Yelena Belova mentioned to. Spider-Man in the Russian bathhouse the. graphic Spider-Man fan art online. involving 10 Mysterios. 10? On one.

level, that would reflect the illusion. nightmare Mysterio trapped Spider-Man in. in Berlin, but it also makes us wonder. what those 10 Mysterios were doing to. one Spider-Man in that artwork. I mean, really, this entire bath house scene. awakened a number of things in a lot of. people, it seems. >> This better not awaken anything in me. >> When Peter first reunites with MJ in. this film, we see she's still wearing. the broken black dahlia necklace from. Spider-Man Far From Home that the final. scene of No Way Home used to indicate.

that some part of MJ might still hold. Peter or the idea of Peter being out. there in her heart. That look MJ gave. after Peter left the donut shop was. described in that movie screenplay as a. possible look of recognition, question. mark? And while talking with Ned at the. house party, explaining why she turned. down the job offer, she says, "I don't. know. I know it sounds cheesy, but. something's telling me that I'm supposed. to be waiting for something great, you. know?" And she looks off in the. direction of Maynard. Actually, this. reminded me of a moment I think everyone. missed during the opening montage when.

Peter was looking at Ned's Instagram, and MJ in one of the Instagram stories. asked, "Who's watching your videos, Ned?" As if she sensed that someone out. there was watching, and that someone. might belong more in Ned's life than she. does. Because I think MJ is enough of an. empath or enough of a paranoid person to. just sense when she's the third wheel or. just the second pick of the person that. she hangs out with the most. But in the. party, the thought of something great is. intercepted by Emman Esfandy as the. boyfriend. Actually, certain screenings. of this movie with subtitles has.

confirmed that this character's name is. Paul, which might confirm the theory. that he is meant to be the comic. character Paul Rabin, the most hated. boyfriend of Mary Jane in the comics. from the recent Zeb Wells run, in which. Mary Jane is stranded in another reality. and kind of time dilates four years with. Paul and ends up caring for two kids. that Paul and MJ believe are theirs, but. this is all the doing of Paul's father, Benjamin, who becomes the emissary of. the Mayan inspired god W'yak. Seriously. though, Paul sucks. Then later when Jean. Grey inhabits MJ after revealing this to. Peter on the rooftop, she says of MJ's.

mind, "There is like no thoughts of you. in here whatsoever." And later when MJ. finds Peter's letter, it comes with such. a shock that MJ feels the need to be. very clear and very direct with Peter. that the young woman for whom he did the. memory wipe spell to protect is gone and. that this MJ standing before him. considers this dude a complete stranger. incapable of loving him. So from that it. would seem there's no part of MJ's mind. that could ever remember Peter. But then. some odd things begin to happen in the. movie. After Peter swings MJ back to her.

and Ned's apartment and she nuzzles her. nose against his shoulder as if she's. getting a good whiff of him. The three. of them all hang out and kind of revert. to their old ways. Peter and Ned. assemble Star Wars LEGO sets. They quote. Gandalf in the Fellowship of the Ring. and MJ sketches pictures of them. Now in. our Easter egg breakdown, I pointed out. how crazy it was that MJ would be able. to sketch Peter unmasked in this moment. considering the only time she would. remember seeing him without his mask on. was the previous scene on the boat when. she was breaking his heart. So looking. at him now with his mask on, she would. have to be sketching his appearance.

completely from that memory and that. memory alone. And I didn't notice this. before but many online are now pointing. out in this sketch MJ is drawing Peter. wearing not the new suit that he's. currently wearing sitting beside her but. rather his Homecoming era Stark suit. with the squat techy spider logo on the. chest and the specific pattern on the. arms. MJ would have no memory of seeing. an unmasked Peter wearing that suit. So. she would have to be mixing the face of. the Peter whose heart she just broke on. the boat with the memories of the masked. Spider-Man who saved her friends in the. Washington Monument several years.

earlier. Maybe mixing in some details. that have been documented in her. roommate's research wall. But this is. one reason why many are now believing. that in this moment Jean may have begun. to repair MJ's memories of Peter. Not. completely restored MJ's memories of. Peter by this point because yeah, when. she was talking to him on the boat an. hour before, he was a genuine stranger. to her. But rather, maybe Jean has begun. that healing process on a subconscious. level. When Jean Grey blasts out her. psychic shockwave from Roosevelt Island. in the final battle, and Ned and MJ are. caught in that, many have noted the.

oddity of MJ crying in this moment. The. rule of Jean Grey's possession in this. movie is the inhabitant have no memory. or feeling while it is happening. It's. complete cognitive and emotional. blackout. For MJ to be crying here, an. argument could be made that her memory. is continuing to repair in this moment. And in the final montage, when we see MJ. sitting on the rooftop from No Way Home. holding that Black Dahlia necklace, the. memories might just be closer than ever. to being restored. But this would also. be something of a mindfuck for MJ. Because think about it, on one hand, she.

would be regaining all of these memories. of Peter in her life, and Peter being. Spider-Man and everything they all went. through in Homecoming, Far From Home, and No Way Home. But also, she would. still have these other warped memories. of a life without Peter Parker in it. Memories of MIT, not a problem, Peter. wasn't there. But memories of high. school before that? All still there, but. there without Peter being in them. It's. amazing the girl's not having a stroke. here. Now, sure, we've seen characters. in the Marvel multiverse having multiple. sets of memories in their minds like at. the end of X-Men: Days of Future Past, Logan and Charles Xavier would have had.

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That's mintmobile.com/newrockstars. But, also, could Jean Grey fully restore. memory that has been erased or warped. away? Like, if Jean said that there were. no thoughts of Peter in MJ's mind. whatsoever, is that even possible? Well, we have to look here at the subjectivity. of memory and really how our brains. work. Memories are not stored in a. single location in our brains. They're. rather distributed across neural. passageways with different regions of. our brain handling different aspects of. the memory. The hippocampus is essential.

for forming new long-term memories. The. cerebral cortex houses the neuron. networks depending on what sensory. elements are involved in the memory, visual, auditory, olfactory. And factual. and conceptual memories are distributed. across association areas. Emotional. memories are processed in the amygdala. And so, when you remember something, you're not kind of like looking through. your brain and re-accessing some locked. room that stores the memory. What's. really happening is your neurons are. firing along the same passageway that. you used the last time you processed. that information. So, in a sense, you're.

really remembering things as you did the. last time you did the function of. remembering it. And specifically, how. you felt the last time you remembered. it. You are not recalling an objective. eyewitness account of what you were. literally experiencing the moment the. memory was formed. So, unless Dr. Strange's memory wipe completely eroded. all of MJ's neurons and specific. synapses, those passageways are still. there. They might just have been. inactive when Jean Grey tried to use. them at first. And they probably would. not have had any reason to be active. until MJ reacquainted with the physical.

stimuli of Peter, his face, his letter, his smell, as she swung with him, seeing. him with Ned. And in the final position, Jean being linked with Peter and Aunt. May could be the feeling that stirred. MJ's amygdala into remembering enough. about Peter to cry in this moment. In. the earlier scene, when Bruce Banner and. Savage Hulk forced Jean Grey out of that. mind, Banner said, "I think she broke. something in there." I think he was. referring to whatever balance or barrier. that Banner had mentally constructed to. keep Savage Hulk out of the cockpit.

But, if Jean Grey's possession can. rewire neural passageways like that, I. think she can break or repair things. While this movie made us feel like fools. for believing MJ's true love's kiss. could break the spell, it restores that. hope in the final scene as Peter shares. a physical expression of love with Ned, the handshake. Unlike a spontaneous. kiss, a handshake like this represents. months of workshopping, brainstorming, inside jokes, and just general bits and. experiences between two friends, and. years of all the times they did this. handshake again and again and again to. reinforce that friendship. In the final.

scene, when Ned gasps and says, "Peter!". I choose to interpret it as Ned. remembering everything. But, this movie. smartly gives all non-believers out. there an out with that little moment. when Ned heard MJ call Spider-Man Peter. as Peter swings off to save Jean Grey, and Ned says, "Spider-Man's name is. Peter?" So, it's equally valid to. interpret this final moment as Ned just. realizing that Peter is Spider-Man, and. that's it. Director Destin Daniel. Cretton has said that he deliberately. wanted to leave this final moment. ambiguous. Also, this very nice person. on Twitter explained to me that muscle. memory and cognitive memory are not the.

same, that Ned could have gone through. the motions of the handshake without. fully remembering his history with. Peter. That's fair. But this really all. comes down to how much of this neural. science does Destin Daniel Cretton. actually know and consider to be a. factual priority in these scenes of the. movie. If you believe that Ned remembers. everything, Cretton wants you to believe. that and gave you enough in this movie. to back that up. Ultimately, I don't. think it was just Jean Grey and the. impact of her possession that restored. MJ and or Ned's memories of Peter. I. think for MJ, it was specifically seeing. Peter with Ned. After watching this.

movie four times, I really do think Ned. is the key to it all. There's just. something about our forgotten sorcerer. from No Way Home that allowed MJ to. remember what Peter's Homecoming era. suit and face looked like. It was the. memory Ned cited of sitting on the. rooftop with MJ that allowed her to keep. any part of that memory to repopulate it. with Peter later. And it was Ned's. Spidey Tracker app that finds a new. Spider-Man in space in the post-credit. scene. I think Ned is the key to it all. So, I don't know if Jean Grey actively. repaired MJ's memories, but I do think a. combination of these stimuli caused. Jean's synapses and neurons to reawaken.

and reconnect. And I now think she is. doing what Peter did in No Way Home, choosing to stay alone so that this guy. she once loved can get what he needs now. in friendship and maybe in that new cool. blonde chick sitting next to Cindy Moon. at Empire State University. Comment down. below with your thoughts and theories. here and a special thanks to one of our. In Our Underground subscribers, Patrick. Daily, for supporting us at the. executive producer level. Every week on. the In Our Underground audio feed, subscribers can listen to our Monday. mailbag podcast where we answer your. questions. Here's a clip from a recent. episode to give you a taste of what.

you're missing. >> If you were to ask me what is the best. single scene of the MCU, it's probably. the elevator fight in Captain America: Winter Soldier. It's pretty good. The. way it builds up, like one by one these. bigger and bigger dudes just surround. themselves around Steve Rogers and then. he goes, "All right, before we start, does anyone want to get out?" And you. just know what's coming. And then that. combination of fight moves and the way. he gets out of it by basically just like. jumping out of the glass, landing on his. shield. Like it is just like singularly. as a scene, if I'm just studying the art. of a scene, it is a perfect scene.

>> Yeah. >> And I think uh now there are other. moments in that movie that might be. better moments. The moment Winter. Soldier catches the shield on the. rooftop. What a great moment, you know, great trailer moment. I really love the. in Civil War the the Steve and Bucky. versus Tony scene. >> a phenomenal scene. >> Great scene. >> Yeah. >> I still prefer the elevator scene, I. think. Join this exclusive dialogue with. me by clicking the link in the. description below or go to inner. underground.supercast.com. Big thanks to studio tech Brian Kim, new. rockstars editors Joshua Steven Hurd and.

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