Tom Brady on Favorite Super Bowl, Kelce v Gronk, Belichick Debate & Why the NFL is Hard | EP 198

Do you have a favorite Gronk story? >> I got a good one. I got a good one. All. right. >> You know like lot of. receivers, tight ends will work on. catching drills. >> Yeah. >> Hit the jugs machine, you know, 100. catches. And all the receivers did it. I. never saw Gronk ever do any catching. drill, ever. Every ball I throw to. Gronk, like he'd have these big white. gloves, right? And when he put his hands. up like this, it looked like the top of. a trash can that I would TRY [laughter]. TO HIT. AND HE WOULD GO. WITH LIKE SAY IT LIKE [laughter] A SMILE. ON HIS FACE. The ball would just stick. to his hands, right? So it was like. unbelievable. So one day it's like his.

it's like third year in the league, all. right? And we're at practice, and I. throw him a ball, and it like hits like. the palm of his hands, and like falls on. the ground. And Gronk looks at me and is. like. What What was that? Like what just. happened? So he goes, "Tommy, throw me. the ball again." And I took the ball and. I fired at him, and he caught it. And he. it was like. he GAINED HIS CONFIDENCE. >> [laughter].

>> OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BOYS AND GIRLS, welcome back. >> HEY. >> TO New Heights. We got a special episode. with me and Jason in the same room. This. never [ __ ] happens. This never. happens. It is the best. >> There's like a scent to you that I just. like being around. And it's called Louis. Vuitton Imagination. Do you know that. perfumes actually use. foul or rotten things in their perfumes. because it lasts longer and elicits.

certain pheromone responses out of the. no- nostrils? >> This show is brought to you by Expedia. That's right, the place you go to go. places. We're your hosts. I'm Travis. Kelce. This is my big brother Jason. Kelce. Jason always knows a little bit. too much about everything. And you just. caught that first hand here in the early. stages of this uh interview. >> just enough to be dumb enough. >> Yeah, there we go. >> [laughter]. >> You got TO LOVE IT, MAN. UM I DON'T HAVE. A SCRIPT IN front of me, so I think this. is where I say follow the show on all.

social media at New Heights with one S. for fun clips throughout the week. And. Jason is now going to tell you what we. have coming up this week. >> That's right. 92%ers, we've got another great episode. WE ARE ENDING THIS SEASON with an. all-time guest, the most accomplished, greatest football player in the history. of the game. >> Season finale. >> SEASON FINALE. >> TOM BRADY IS ON THE SHOW. [screaming]. YEAH. >> YOU TALKING ABOUT TOM BRADY? >> THAT'S RIGHT. ALL YOU Patriots that love. Travis Kelce, TOM BRADY'S COMING ON THE. SHOW. You're going to love it.

>> Hey Pat, stay out of. >> And. yeah, let's get into some new news. >> New news. >> Before we get to that. All right, new. news brought to you by American Express. It's the end of the road. The season is. finally done of this season is finally. done of New Heights. Do you have a. favorite highlight? >> I mean, the live show is it's it's it's. fresh. It's fresh, but god damn that was. a [ __ ] fun night. >> It was a great job. Shout out to Amazon, shout out to Enterprise, everybody who. helped put that thing on, the set. design. It was so much fun. I didn't.

know how it was going to work out. We. were talking. uh you know, the whole team. We were. talking about we're going to have a. soccer goal up there, we're going to. have a basketball hoop, we're going to. have turf. I'm like, how the [ __ ] is. this going to work? And it ended up going off without a. hitch, surprisingly. >> And thankfully, you actually dunked. Which. >> Was it an actual dunk? Does that. actually. >> No, it was 100% actual dunk. It was. 100%. You've done it. You've dunked. You. have done it. So, you dunked and on top. of that, you stoned Alex Morgan. So, two. very. >> Morgan.

>> [laughter]. >> Which was a little bit of a low blow, but you know what? You got to. >> Listen, Tim coached me and he said you. got to get in her head. I got the. bobsled suit out, so that threw her out. of her game right away. And that was. also a shorter net, so I didn't have to. leap as far. >> up there like, all right, I'm just going. to. fire one in that hopefully doesn't and. you [ __ ] full on. >> Oh, I went all I'm going all in. >> right side airborne. [laughter]. There's got to be a There's got to be a.

slow-mo. Somebody's got to have a slow-mo of. that. >> The funniest part was the reaction from. the crowd. They didn't know whether to. CHEER OR NOT. >> [laughter]. >> AND YOU GET UP LIKE YOU WON THE SUPER. BOWL. >> I dude, I just stopped the [ __ ]. penalty kick from a [ __ ] World Cup. champion, the best goal scorer in US. women's soccer history. One of the US. women's history. So. >> You're hilarious. >> I'm sorry for my brother, Alex. I'm. sorry. >> And I get to say that the first time I. ever dunked a basketball was in the. Orpheum Theatre in front of thousands of.

people. >> with an alley-oop. >> alley-oop from Will Ferrell. It's insane. >> What life are we living? >> Couldn't couldn't have happened in a. better way. >> It's uh it's been a hell of a. >> time you dunked? Rock Ridge Middle School? >> Ridge Middle School, YEAH. >> [laughter]. [laughter]. >> I WAS I WAS LIKE 5'11. >> THAT WAS PROBABLY PRETTY COOL, TOO. >> Just. >> Did you daily throw the alley-oop? >> I mean, yeah. It was It was daily, yeah. Uh no, we were Man, it's so long ago. I.

think I remember being in a like. like a drenched sweat. Like I had like. gym class I had like been trying to do. this for like my entire time in gym. class. >> Yeah. >> And I finally got it. Very similar to. you, not as much pull on the rim, but. flushed it in, yeah. >> it in. Good penultimate step. >> Yeah. No, I was a one-foot jumper back. then. >> One foot? >> Yeah. I'd start from like the [ __ ]. rafters and just. >> Just build up as much speed as possible. [laughter] All right, well, we will be. back for season 5 with all new episodes.

starting September 2nd. Travis is off to. training camp. For everybody that is new. to the show, uh we take this time off. because Travis is way too busy to record. a podcast. He's getting ready for an NFL. season, and we do not have the time. Training camp with the NFL he's going to. go to Saint Joe's University. >> St. Joe, Missouri. >> Yeah, Missouri Western State University. >> St. Joe, Missouri. >> Shout out Shout out to the Griffins. >> And where they will be, I mean, knee. deep in sweat and and all sorts of other.

bodily fluids that nobody else wants to. be around. >> How is that? >> For, I mean, all day. They'll sleep. together. They might, you know, play tummy sticks. I don't know what might happen. It's. very. >> That sounds like a Philly thing. We. never had that. >> never did that? >> No, we never played tummy sticks. What's. that? >> Oh, you're missing out. >> [laughter]. >> This guy's insane. >> Stick around till the end of the episode. for some exclusive clips from our live. show. We are ending the season with some. of our favorite live No Dumb Questions.

>> Nice. Ending the season with Tom Brady, pretty epic. Starting it with Taylor, pretty epic. >> Yeah. >> Um and the start of like during that. recording the entire time I'm planning. like I'm going to ask this woman to. marry me after this, so. Yeah, those. were probably two other like really cool. moments of this season. Obviously the. the beginning of it with Taylor is one. I'll remember forever, so. >> Well, I mean, it's it's by far our most. viewed episode of all time. >> Yeah, it was pretty fun. >> Yeah.

It was incredible. I've [laughter] never been more. >> your What was your What was one that. that sticks out to you throughout the. year? Can't use either one of mine. >> Put his ass on the spot. >> We had a lot of good ones, Jason. >> I know, we did have a lot of good ones. >> Use your brains. >> What would out of I mean, I just What is. going to be even comparable to the two. that you just named? I don't know. >> The one I mean, we did a lot of actors. >> Caprio was kind of nuts. >> The Caprio. >> Dude, like they're all the But I can't like. >> George Clooney, I don't know. >> George Clooney, Affleck. Do we have. Sandler on again? Yeah. No.

That was the previous one? >> Yeah. >> Will was the previous one or he went on. the show? >> No, that was previous. >> God damn it. >> Jackass. >> Johnny Knoxville. That's another one very current. >> Allen, Rebel Wilson, Hart, Steve Harvey, Allen Iverson. >> God damn. >> Kevin Hart, Aaron Andrews, Christian. Thompson. >> From the rafters, this has been a hell. of a year. >> Kylie. >> [laughter]. >> Jenner, Kylie. >> I mean I talk to her every day.

>> [laughter]. >> DON'T YOU DO THAT TO KYLIE. >> RANDY MOSS, Jameis. >> be lucky you get to talk to Kylie every. day. >> Jameis Winston. >> Jameis Winston was great. I mean. there's Gosling. There are. They're all They're all so good. >> Greg and George. >> Conan. >> Conan, god damn. Yeah, there's too many. I don't even know where to go with that. >> nice. That was a fun little like. memory lane there for season what is. this? Four? >> Four. We're going on to five, yeah. >> This time's flying. >> The Riggle and Hart.

going back and forth was one of my That. was a favorite. >> [laughter]. >> They They were They were great together. >> Riggle and Kevin Hart, man. That was too funny. The Fixins, man. >> Yeah, the Fixins. Um well, that's it for new news brought. to you by American Express. It's time. and Travis to toss it to our guest. You. want to. >> Let's do it. Toss it over Tom Brady. Jason, you want to do the the intro? >> Sure. This conversation is brought to you by. Xfinity. >> HOW DO YOU I GUESS TODAY IS THE 6' 4".

QUARTERBACK FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF. MICHIGAN. THE 199TH. PICK OF THE 2000 NFL DRAFT, 15-TIME PRO. BOWLER, 2009 NFL COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE. YEAR, THREE-TIME NFL MVP, ONLY STARTING. QUARTERBACK TO WIN THE SUPER BOWL IN. BOTH THE AFC AND THE NFC. HE'S GOT SEVEN. SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONSHIPS, FIVE SUPER. BOWL MVPS, 92% OF HIS PLAYS. WELCOME THE. MOST DECORATED [laughter] MAN IN THE. HISTORY OF OUR GAME, TOM BRADY. [screaming].

>> WE GOT THE GOAT. >> YES. MAN, I GOT TO HIRE you come on the. road with me. I've never had an intro. like I've done a lot of [ __ ] I've never. had an intro like that. >> They just. >> Only the best for you big dog. Sign me. up me up. >> Only the best for you big dog. We got We. got to settle it right here, right now. though. You're You're one and one. against the Kelsey brothers. >> [laughter]. >> in the Super Bowl dog. How do we How do. we figure this out? How do we break the. tie? We got to get out on the golf. course somewhere. We got to get a few. drinking games going. What do we got to. do? >> I think we should. I'm I'm definitely. down for some golf with you too. You.

know I love it. Although Trav, I have. seen your swing and I'm not I'm afraid. that like you you just roll over me. I. mean. >> [laughter]. >> You got that thing dialed. Jay, I don't. know. You probably have had a little. more time post career, but Trav's got a. ridiculous golf swing. >> Trav is very uh I keep telling people. he's going to be a plus handicap when he. really gets on playing. He's He's a. stick. Yeah. And he's also he just got. this new driver. We were playing at Bel. Air yesterday. Smoking it. Like 360. I'm. like what the. >> Damn. Same Same driver, new flight. It's.

just. Yeah, it's just going straight. >> [laughter]. >> You've had a unique athleticism, Trav. I. will say that. Like you know, silky. smooth route runner, like incredible. feel out there. Like I think if I played. with you, you would have had 110, 120 a. year. And not that you don't have that. with Patrick, but I liked your style of. play cuz I feel like there was a way you. ran routes and you always had ability to. like, you know, feel the coverage and. then turn in when they told you to turn. up, but who cares cuz you're open. And.

Julian did that a little for me. Wes did. that a lot for me. Some guys don't. really have that feel, but. >> Oh, yeah. >> I just watch you play and I'm like like. that. Just like that. [laughter]. >> I appreciate that big guy. And I. definitely took a lot of like notes from. Jules and Edelman and and even Gronk on. I mean watching you guys, you guys were. unbelievable and being on the same page. >> Yeah. >> And you could just tell you guys were in. sync and the guys that were running the. routes were that even if they made a. decision that wasn't, you know,

so-called in the playbook essentially, it felt like everybody was always. friendly and making it definitive enough. for you. And. but yeah, I appreciate that, big dog. Jason's. he's more of a. he's the kind of guy that. >> I feel like Jason had the same in his. own way, like the center style of play, his own unique way of getting the job. done. And Jay, you probably weren't the. biggest guy, but you always played with. great leverage, always communication was. probably on point. I don't think I would. have motherfucked you very often. I. [ __ ] the centers a lot, but you I.

feel like you would have gone right back. at me and I would have been stuck cuz I. would have been like, "Oh [ __ ] he's. probably right.". >> No, I I I listen, I. So, I tell we talked about this earlier. this year. I know you're you're. [laughter] being funny a little bit, but. we just talking about being on the same. page. And so, we were talking training. camp earlier. Tom and the Patriots had a joint. practice with us early on. And he. talking about [ __ ] people. We're having the Patriots come in and. the biggest thing we took away. was the leadership and ownership that. Tom took over everything. And this just.

in like a training camp practice. And. like, "Hey [ __ ] come and motion. like if you he was yelling at guys, not. going to motion, not doing the right. thing." You could tell you guys were so. dialed in as a group and it all started. with you and I would have gladly been. motherfucked, to be honest with you. >> Dude, that's the thing. You got to be. willing to get motherfucked out here, man. You got to be willing to get. motherfucked. That's why I love having. my guy Eric Bieniemy back in the. building, man, because guys are getting. motherfucked all over the field and. [laughter] all of a sudden you get a. little bit more of a sense of urgency. going. And you get a little more focused.

in like, "Oh [ __ ] I I can't be the one. getting motherfucked today." Like. >> I know. And Trev, I think that was kind. of like when I started, that was the. norm for football players. Like high. school, college, pros, it was all about. like. >> Old school ball coach. >> where's the urgency to get it right? And. Bill would always say something really. good to us as a team. He'd always come. in and say, you know, you have Wednesday practice, Thursday practice, Friday. He would say, you know, come in on Wednesday morning. like, "Listen, don't go out there and. mess up a bunch of things today. We. can't do them over on Thursday. We got a.

whole 'nother pile of you know, stuff to. put in Thursday. And then on Friday, same thing. Like lock in. Today's a big. day. And and that just created always. this urgency for our team. And I felt. like, you know, I took a lot of things. away from my time in New England. And. you know, obviously I thought I had like. a lot like you guys, you know, you have. great teammates and you have people that. are going to be friends for life because. you were all doing this really. challenging thing together. But there. was like an urgency whether it was May. to have the best OTA we could have or.

end of July when we had our first. training camp. Like we had to have great. practices every day because the. competition is year-round in the NFL. And if we were going to beat the other. good teams, well they were they were. having good practices. So we needed to. have a good practice. And just day in. and day out, I think there was a there. was definitely a stress to it that was. there was an intensity of stress to. practice. Like I can't go out there and. just you know, suck today at practice. because I set the tone for the whole.

team. So I developed like this. competitive urgency within myself. And. you can feel that certainly all those. years NJ when we would come and practice. against you guys. But I was locked in. and I just felt like if I did that, well. then the other guys had to do it. And if. they had to do it, then the coaches had. to do it. And then it just kind of. volleyed off one at one another. And you. know, we didn't win them all, but you. know, we were competitive probably in. most. >> Oh, we. >> almost all the games I played. And I. think it was for the for those reasons. >> Hell yeah. >> Yeah. >> Being able to challenge that [ __ ].

inner competitor every [ __ ] day and. about every single detail. That's I. mean, you're doing that in the in the. dog days, man. That shit's going to show. up in the [ __ ] games for sure. >> Yeah, we we talk about it all the time. When your when your best player is the. guy that is doing all this and he cares. that much and he's holding. that's the guy who usually sets the. standard. And if he's just naturally. that gifted and he doesn't have all. these other things that all these other. guys. also need to be. applying and whether it's the time in. studying, the time in knowing what.

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WE'LL GET IT OUT OF HIM SOMEHOW. >> HELL YEAH, MAN. We got to. >> It won't take that long in the NFL to. like be like, all right, this is the way. stuff gets done and this is the urgency. I got to create. >> [laughter]. >> Mother freaking him is so good, man. >> I think too, Trav, like if you think. about it, a lot of guys have had so many. people tell them how good they are. And. I again, something that's unique in the. NFL, like you're a high school player, you're probably the best team the player. on your team, so it all goes pretty. well. Then you go to college and you're. probably one of the top five on your. team, so everything goes pretty well.

But you finally get to the pros, you got. an agent that tells you how good you are. all the time. You have a significant. other that tells you how good you are. You have a mom that tells you how good. you are. You have a dad. So, in the end, who really tells you the truth, you. know, and who tells you where you need. to get better? And that's the role the. head coach. Like, he has to be the one. that says, "I don't give a [ __ ] what, you know, the the blog says or the the. daily writer. I care about what what I. think cuz it's my vision for the team.". And again, I was blessed to have Coach.

Belichick, who I believe is the greatest. head coach of all time. I think Andy's. like that to a degree. I know he's a. different style. Um but, there's part of it that that. position, like you can't be like, "Hey, man, let's go out there and have a great. day. Like, we're going to have so much. fun." And like, you know, something goes. wrong and it's like, "Oh, don't worry. We'll we'll fix it tomorrow." And like, everyone leaves every day feeling like. they were great and they did great. But, the reality is they're not really. prepared for what's coming on Sunday. Cuz NFL football is hard. And to beat. the Chiefs or to beat the Eagles in the. Super Bowl is hard. You better if you.

play one of the best teams in the. league. And in this sense, it's like I. played both you guys in Super Bowl. You. better play every play great to give. yourself a chance. If you play 20% of. those plays poorly, you're not going to. win. And why waste all the time through. April, through May, through June, through there's a big commitment to make. that everybody sacrifices if you're not. going to go out there to try to beat the. best teams. You can play pretty average. against the teams that don't really have. a chance. But, the teams that are really. great, the six or eight every year that.

have a chance, you better have an. urgency to beat those teams cuz that's. the real competition in the NFL. God, TOM'S GETTING ME FIRED UP. >> I I TOLD YOU, DUDE. I told you. >> I something about it I mean, you talk. about maximizing your potential. I mean, you had the greatest statistical. performance ever by a quarterback in the. Super Bowl when you played us. Nick. Foles caught some type of magical like. thing. I don't really know what was. happening with Nick that day, but he was. on fire. But, you [laughter]. What what was that like having that kind. of [ __ ] show? >> goes down as my favorite football game.

ever to to be in. Like, it's seriously, that game was insane to be in that. stadium and watch you guys duke it out, man. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I mean, I I feel like it's a you. know, when you win the Super Bowl like. I mean, you guys played better than we. did that day. So, there's like there's. never any May the best team win. I. always kind of say that. Like, who you. rooting for? May the best team win. I. don't know. You guys were the best team. that day. It was really hard for us cuz. we did play good on offense. But defensively, you know, we just. couldn't figure out a way You guys kept. making big plays. The running back makes. this great catch in the end zone and.

>> Right. >> Um you know, the I think it was Alshon. Was Alshon He dropped a touchdown pass. >> Catches. >> Um and we just Ertz caught a touchdown. pass. >> a couple fourth down conversions, yeah. >> Yeah, you were just always one step. ahead of us the whole day. And we. finally caught you in the fourth quarter. on a touchdown throw to Gronk. >> Yeah. >> And then you guys got that fourth down. >> Yes. >> And then went down and scored. And I was. like, we we finally caught up. And it. took us all day to catch up. And you. know when the NFL, when you're behind, you do feel like you're unsettled. You. never feel in control if you're behind.

in a game. >> Right. >> And that game, we were basically behind. the entire day. So, even on the bench. and even though we were moving the ball. well, I still felt like we were not in. control of the game. And then all of a. sudden, we finally got the lead. And. then you guys went right down the field, scored, and then Brandon Graham made a. you know, made a great rush on Shaq and. strip-sacked me and you know, that was. it. >> I mean, you talk about feeling uneasy. not being or being behind. We were ahead. and I was uneasy cuz I saw you on the. [laughter] other sideline. And I was.

like, IF THERE'S ONE GUY THAT'S GOOD. PLAYING FROM BEHIND, this is the guy. So, like, what do you think about your. career? I don't know that there's anybody I. mean, Pat is certainly up there in like. the two-minute plays, but. >> Oh, yeah. >> What do you think made you so good in. those situations? >> First of all, I had great teammates that. played great in those situations. And we. we worked on it, we practiced, we walked. through. And you know, there's always. something nice about two-minute. In in. some ways, it gives the quarterback a lot of rhythm. to play in when things are going well. When you're in a good rhythm in two.

minute because it's not like they can. run a lot of variety of defenses and I. was a very I was all about preparation. So I felt like if I could get you into. two minute situation and I could get you. to play defense and I could get you the. clock running and you would have to. signal and like I would be like all. right, I'm going to I'm going to snap it. before they're ready and let's hit some. completions and again, I just pushed our. guys to constantly I was going to find. the open receiver because I could read. coverages really well and I was always. going to try to throw to the soft part.

of the defense. I mean I could one of my. biggest well my biggest weakness was my. lack of mobility and my lack of ability. to scramble and make a play and in many. ways that turned into the best thing. that I did which was forced me to over. prepare to over you know to read. defenses and to throw to open guys. Like. I didn't have the option to like pull it. down and run. So I had to make sure we. had guys open before the ball was. snapped. So I was constantly looking at. the coverage. I was constantly seeing.

the defensive scheme and then trying to. you know get our guys in the best. position and I would throw it, Gronk. would catch it. I would throw it, Jules. would catch it. I would throw it, Danny. would catch it. I would throw it, you. know I can list goes on. I mean I played. with so many great players but it was. really a great unit and you know there. was some of the best part of football. was just two minute drives and. it was it was the chance for you to go. out and be like all right, game's on the. line man. This is like this is what we. do in the in the school yard, you know, but game's on the line. Let's see what. we got.

>> Well, in in that game I still I mean the. BG sacks but even after that you guys. got the ball back and up until that ball. fell. on the ground that last Hail Mary. attempt. I'm still like dude Tom could. still find a way to get this done. Like. in I still. I'm not even believing it was over then. but let's get to some of the good stuff. Seven times Super Bowl champion. >> Yeah. >> Oldest Super Bowl champion I believe. Is. that correct? Oldest starting. quarterback Super Bowl champion. >> I saw it first hand. >> Do you have a favorite one? >> [laughter]. >> What is your favorite. >> you got time? >> one out of all of them? >> I don't want to sound arrogant cuz.

that's not I would say they're they're. all different first of all and they're. all different meaningful because they're. they are they're kind of tell a. different story. >> Oh, yeah. >> Um I think one that was like the 2014. one against the Seahawks. You'd probably. say like the Atlanta one where we came. back from all those you know down a. bunch of points but. the one it I I won three really early. and it was kind of like ah you know. what's so hard about THE NFL YOU. >> [laughter]. >> I MEAN NO IDEA. I MEAN IT WAS like I went to Michigan.

we're good at Michigan and I won two. bowl games and then I got to the pros my. first year we won the Super Bowl and. then you know my next year we didn't and. then we won two back-to-back. So I was. kind of like. like this is what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to start season work. hard, you know, and then win. That's. okay big deal. But then we lost in '07. to the Giants then we lost in 2011 to. the Giants and then we played Seattle in. the 2014 and so we went on 10 years and. I had a three years of three times we. won it then I had two where we lost it. >> Yeah. >> And then I was like man and then 2014.

came and we're going against the Legion. of Boom and we're down I think 10 in the. fourth quarter or or yeah 10 in the. fourth quarter and um. and then we end up having just the most. incredible you know last again last 20. minutes of the game and defense played. incredible. I mean that stopped down at. the goal line. It was it went from like. you know again we were losing for most. of the game. We finally got a lead in. the fourth quarter. They drove right. down the field and then Dontari. Hightower made one of the greatest plays. in Super Bowl history tackling Marshawn.

getting blocked had like one shoulder. out somehow got Marshawn on the ground. which like 10 guys can't get Marshawn on. the ground. Dontari did it with like one. shoulder. >> Yeah. >> and then Malcolm makes one of the. greatest defensive plays in the history. of football and everyone after the game. talked about you know oh not handing the. ball to Marshawn. I was like how about. that play by Malcolm Butler to pull the. trigger. And. >> and the trigger on that as a rookie to. like go over the top with a pick in the. acceleration burst and then it was all. or nothing. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> crazy.

>> Yeah, whenever I'm I'm a receiver and I. come out of a break, I'm I'm always. trying to. minimize the opportunity for the. defender to beat my angle. >> Yeah, he's got to go through you to get. to the. >> He's got to go through me. That That's a. part of my size and my like strength and. and being a pass catcher. And I thought. he had a good angle coming in. Now, maybe he could have gone in there with a. little bit more tempo, but it's kind of. like one of those plays where it's like. the RPOs, you want to kind of come in. with some Whatever it was, but I thought. the angle was good and Malcolm just.

[ __ ] shot it, man. And that goes to. like the I'm sure the film. the film breakdowns and all that. >> the story behind it. They talked about. prepping for that exact situation before. it happened. Um I don't know if that was. like in a 30 for 30 or where I saw Bill. talking about that, but I love when the. preparation carries over and then. I mean, the moment there, I mean, you. could not have a bigger moment for a. guy, a young player to really go out of. his way to take a chance. >> Yeah, Tom, I've always wanted to ask you. this because there is you have this.

ability and we kind of talked about it. before about just like the rhythm in. which you always commanded the offense. It's just you feel like you've always. got control of the game and and. everybody's kind of going at your. rhythm. Was there a point in your career. where you started to understand that or. was it always just kind of within your. preparation how you guys. ran the offense? >> You know, my college experience was. really unique. I My first 3 years I. didn't play at all at Michigan. And.

again, if I was around these days, I. probably would have transferred to. another school cuz you know, it was. simple to do, but you know, I Michigan. was a really tough experience in terms. of my ability I had to grow up. I didn't. have brothers. I had three sisters. You. know, I was the youngest. I got baby by. my mom. I got baby by my dad. I got baby. by my sisters. I go to Michigan, which. is a long way from California. It's. freezing cold. I didn't have a jacket. when I went there. And I sit on the. bench my first year, you know, and and I. really had I would call it like a lot of. self-defeating attitudes and behaviors.

I always had an excuse. I always had, you know, coach coach doesn't want me in. there. >> Creep in real easy. >> Yeah. They're they're not giving me the. opportunity. And I had a sports. psychologist who unfortunately passed. away about a year ago. His name was Greg. Harden. And he started really psychology. on me. And I would go into his office. every Tuesday. And he would say, you know, Tom, I like you, you know, you. work hard, but like you have a shitty. attitude. And.

how about you start worrying about what. you can control? And stop talking about. the other quarterbacks. Stop talking. about the coaches not putting you in. How about you take advantage of the. opportunities you get? And every time. you go in there, you bring energy, you. bring enthusiasm. If they give you three. reps, you do the best with the three you. get. Quit bitching about you only. getting three or you going in there with. the backup receivers. No one cares. You. go in there, you bring energy you treat. practice like it's a game. You go out to.

that practice field like it's the Big. House and you're playing at home state. If you throw a touchdown in the. two-minute in in in practice, you. celebrate like it's the game. >> Hell yeah. >> And I was like, well, I never approached. like that. And he goes, you're going to. gain, you know, a lot of trust and a lot. of confidence from your teammates if you. start treating that way because it's. going to prove your play. Sure enough, my energy started getting way better. I. was bringing juice. I had the right. attitude. And then it started to. improve. And my second year, it got way.

better. My third year, I competed with. Brian Griese to be the starter. Brian. beat me out. Our team went undefeated, won the national championship. But I. learned a lot. I watched Brian be a. great leader. Then all of a sudden I'm. like, [ __ ] I'm bringing the juice, man, every day. Boom, I'm bringing it to. practice. I'm bringing it. Yeah, every. day. And that's what I did. And then we. actually were I was pretty good, you. know, my fourth and fifth year. Then I. went to the pros, and again, the pros is. like everyone is like, "Hey man, it's. good day. Like don't cover me on scout. team, you know?" And here comes Tom. Brady scout team quarterback, and I'm. trying to like,

you know, beat up the defense. >> Yeah. >> And that really helped me. Again, that. helped me like get better. And then. finally going into my second year, I I. won the backup job because I was so. competitive and I was so fiery, and no. one was going to unseat Drew Bledsoe. He. signed a 10-year $100 million contract. in 2001. >> All right, man. >> I mean, that was a lot of money then. And then. And then Drew got hurt in the second. game, and I came on. And I remember the. defensive players like Willie McGinest. would come up to me and Lawyer Milloy, and they'd be like, "Tommy, like man,

you just keep doing what you're doing, man. You keep" So, they could just sense. that like there was a part of me that. really loved it. I was I was obsessed. with the sport. I loved the practice. And then I loved the leadership part, and I really loved the preparation. Then. I got really into the game. And Peyton. Manning was the guy that I always looked. up to, >> Yeah. >> you know, as a kind of a rival cuz I. thought he was the epitome of a field. general. He got his team in the right. play, and and then I watched him he's. throwing for all these touchdowns every. year. So, it was like, if I could get. the mental part right, I was getting.

good at the emotional, the competitive. stamina, the leadership. And then my. physical body started to catch up to me, and then it kind of all came together, and like I would say 2003, I started to. turn into like what I would become. But. it was a process. It was like I would. say it was definitely built by, you. know, a lot of people that supported me. in the journey, and then I was just. really open to learning. I was curious. about everything, and then I wanted to. go out there and and be my very best. And so, it's just a progression of a lot.

of things, a lot of people, and then. kind of putting it all to use. >> Hell yeah, that's awesome. I I that. story from college, man. Um. >> Yeah. >> That that it it resonates so much not. only with me, but I've seen guys not. handle that conversation the right way. You know, that that. >> Yeah. >> It's easy to be negative and and to not. only just point fingers, but to look at. what's going on around you and create an. excuse. But in the reality of things, if. you come in with the right [ __ ]. mindset and the right energy, man,

>> Yeah. >> one is you're going to enjoy what you do. 10 times 10 times more. But then on top. of that, it's infectious, man. That. energy is infectious. It you could I. mean, everywhere you've gone, you've had. success and you've you've been a part of. like more than just yourself in in. bringing it like bringing wins and. everything like that, but those memories. that you create because of the energy. and the and the the mindset that you. bring into the building, that's what, you know, the the teammates and the. people you go to work with. >> Yeah. >> are going to remember you most for. >> Well, it's also a productive mindset for.

a player. >> Yeah. >> Like this is always one of the things. that really sucks when you start losing. games and you see the finger pointing. starter, like, "Hey, we're not doing. this. We're not doing that." And you. have to try and like remain like, "Dude, just control what you can control. Like, be the best center you can be. And if. you can be a way to help somebody by. putting them in a better situation, being a great teammate, but dude, and. that's that do your job. I know that was. like Bill's like main thing forever. >> Yeah. >> Um but like when you're thinking about. all these reasons that are outside your.

control, what the [ __ ] good is that. doing anybody? [laughter]. >> Totally. >> It doesn't It's so pointless. It is so pointless. >> There was a great quote that, you know, I I saw that was like, "Every brick, you. know, every brick in the road that you. put down is an opportunity for you to. travel that road to be successful. But. every brick you put in a wall is an is. just an excuse that blocks your. opportunity to get to where you want to. get to go.". >> I love it. >> And I think you create excuses and. they're very built in. And again, think. about how we're living these days like. with these guys that come in that.

everybody, their agents, their mom, dad, or sisters, or brothers, they all are. they're willing okay, you lose a game. And losing sucks. It feels horrible for. all of us. And it's amazing to have the. support from people to come in and go, "Hey man, it's not your fault. It was. the defense's fault. Not your fault. It. was the coach's fault. Not your fault. It was the ref's fault. Not your fault.". And And the reality is maybe that helps. for like 5 seconds. >> [laughter]. >> But in the end, it doesn't change any of. the outcomes. And I always feel like if. you really want to grow up, just take it.

all on yourself. Just say, "No, it's my. fault. I got to do better. I got to do. better. I got to you know, like I heard. Wemby talk the other day after the game. And he said like And they had a great. finals. It was you know, it was a tough. game. [ __ ] Knicks were on fire. They. won however many 15 or 16 playoff games. 13 or 14. Insane. And then, you know, there was a part of Wemby saying like we. dominated every game. And I'm like, "It's not the point." You know, like I. just I I want to I want to just And I. love Wemby. Don't get me wrong. I love. him. Like he is the most mature He's.

going to have a tremendous career. But. it's also like I always think when I see. people talk, how would I answer that. question? And the reality for everybody. is like they were better than we were. And we got to do a better job. Simple. Like what That's That's actually very. motivating. Like they were better. We. need to do better. Great. That's what. That's what it takes to win a. championship. You know, we were better. you guys were better than us, Jason, when you when we played you. Travel. Like we had a better day than you. It. actually doesn't mean we're a better. team. We had a better day. >> But it it sparks a fire if you have the.

right approach. Like both Like that. game, I took the same approach in my. mind. Like it doesn't matter what the. team did. What can I What What could I. have done better that day to be more. accountable? To light a fire in my team? To to create a better. whatever it was on the side. Like you. know what I mean? Like it's like you you. immediately have to look at yourself in. the mirror and then and aggressively. attack yourself. You know, and it. it'll make you feel better knowing that.

you know, you dissected and you've done. even more to better yourself to be more. prepared to be more accountable. You'll. feel better about the next opportunity. >> And even as it translate in for both you. guys, you know, Jay you retired Travis. you know, at some point you will but. like that all that does translate into. other parts of your life beyond yeah, I. know. You keep going baby. You keep going. [laughter]. until to the last moment until the last. moment until the last moment. But like. I've been around great entrepreneurs as. well and I would say that attitude where.

they put everything back on themselves. is is makes a very successful business. too. >> Yeah. >> So like people who are I've seen very. fortunate again to be around some. amazing businessmen. It's like I see the. way they approach that way and they're. like I got to do better. I got to. motivate him more. I got to do this. I. got to get on the floor. I got to. understand it better. I got to make that. decision. And I would sit there going. like oh my god that sounds like like the. crazy part that I was. >> Right. >> actually the only way it works. >> Yep. >> You know, it's the only way that. businesses work. It's the only way. relationships work. It's the only way.

football teams work. It's the only way. hockey teams work. It's like everyone. work hard, have humility, have. self-awareness, know you could do. better. Believe me, football you never. how many games have you guys walked out. of and go well, I was perfect today. >> [laughter]. >> Exactly. So, you know, we all have the. opportunity to be better. >> Well, let's talk about some some. teammates of yours big guy. I get I get. I I got to hear you you talk about Gronk. man. He's one of he's been one of my. favorite players since he's gotten to.

the league. Your guys' chemistry is. unbelievable. Just how he enjoys the. game and how he how he lives life man. I've always admired the guy from a. distance man, but what was your first. impression of Gronk when he got to New. England? >> Yeah, I mean at that point there was. like a big expectation of our team when. he got there. Like we had been we had. like a good 10-year run and I think we. needed a big refresh of energy. And Gronk brought it. He was like free, fun-loving. Like, you know, Gronk, you.

know, how he is and how you see him. anywhere is how he's one of the most. authentic people you'll ever be around. And like football's hard, you know, but. Gronk always found a way to bring, you. know, kind of light to it. And he Gronk. was really unique. You know, I think. Gronk was the greatest blocking tight. end in history. >> Man. >> Gronk could hand handle defensive ends. He was at the point of attack in the run. game. Like, we didn't care. We would. rather go to Gronk than the open side. tackle a lot of times. >> Yeah. >> And so that's a really underrated part.

of his game. And then as a pass catcher, you know, he was he was never going to. be like the twitchiest. So, but his. straight line, when he would run seam. routes or, you know, middle reads or. flat routes, he was off the charts. So, there was just part of his game that was. um it was very natural for him. He was a. really a natural athlete. And I think we. our environment kind of kept him really. serious, which I think that's probably a. good thing for him in the end. Cuz I. think if he was on another team where. the coach let him get away with a lot of.

stuff, Gronk maybe would have veered a. little that way, but I think [laughter]. our team kind of made him, you know, a. little more confined. And he still had a. great time, but man, I think he really. liked being on our team. >> in New England than than other places, I'm sure. >> It's. >> [laughter]. >> I know. >> It's all about balance, too. Sometimes. when you have a team that's so like very. straight line, having a guy like Gronk. lighten it every once in a while or. whatnot, you need that, too. >> Right. Totally. >> Mike Vrabel was like that when he was at. the Patriots. He was like Braves man, Braves cut it loose, you know, like.

Randy Moss was like that. Matt Light was. one of the most, you know, the funniest. guys I've ever been around. He kept it. light for everybody, so. >> Yeah, Matt's been on I don't know if. he's been on Julian and Gronk's podcast. a couple times. I've never really talked. to the guy, but some of the clips coming. out I'm like, dude, he's. This would be a fun teammate to be. around, for sure. >> You guys got to get him on your show at. some point cuz he's he's one of a kind. He's an amazing amazing player and. teammate. >> Was there any other tight end that. you've ever seen like Gronk? Is he like a one-of-one because of his. ability? And to your credit, like Connor.

Barwin, who I played with in Philly and. and in college, he said the same thing. years ago about Gronk. Like, he was. like, dude, like normally we go up. against a tight end, we're salivating. Like, we have a like whether he's going. to be in pass pro or the run game, you. do not get blocked by the tight end. And. Gronk was the one guy where he's like, this guy will is manhandling D-ends. >> And a lot of times, too, like you would. think you would think that like he loved. blocking. And I think cuz he didn't want. to go out and run a lot of routes, you. [laughter] know? He would be so tired. And he's like,

hey, just keep me in and run behind me. Like, I like that. And then he he'd be. like just bodying people. And then he. would be like he'd be totally cool with. that. But he was pretty unique. Like, I. really, you know, early in my career I. had Dan Graham, who was a really good. run blocker. Ben Watson, and I had Kyle. Brady in 2007. And then we had a little. stretch. Ben Ben was still there in. 2009. And Ben was really strong and. really athletic, but just wasn't at the. point of attack as good as Gronk. And then And then we got Gronk. And. Gronk was a dominating tight end. And. then when we didn't have Gronk, I I as a.

quarterback for the first time in my. career realized, oh [ __ ] Like, [laughter] we lose those matchups all. the time. Like, not only is that not. neutral, it's a loss. So now. everything's to the open side. Or now. you're flashing the tight end back all. the time. And again, it just limits what. you're able to do. And look, that's life. in the NFL. I mean, you're never Not. everyone's good at everything. I mean, you got to game plan, and that's what. good coaches do. You got to, you know, everyone's got to And if you're an elite. pass catcher, that's amazing. You're. going to be on the field a lot. You. know, sometimes if you're really good at.

run blocking and a really good pass. catcher, you know, you could be a great. player. >> Oh, yes. >> Well, he he was the jack-of-all-trades, and he was a a dream piece for any. offensive coordinator both in the run. game and pass game. He had a little bit. of like. a skip to my lou, and he played with his. tempo in his routes. Like a split a lot. of his like deep deep crosses, or a lot. of his in-breaking routes, or if he had. a soft coverage on it, he would play. with his tempo, and and it made him feel. faster in his routes than I learned so.

much from just watching him just run. like deep crosses or or or deep cross. like a basic routes or um even even out. routes and stuff like that. But it. [clears throat] it's there's only so. much you can do when you watch Gronk in. terms of like trying to incorporate it. into your game, because the guy just had. such a like a a gift and like a feel for. the run game that I it just it was it's. one-of-a-kind, man. And and his ability. to get the inside hands, he has long.

arms, he's always been strong as an ox, um and just the physicality to get into. a bar fight every single play is it's. one-of-a-kind, man. >> Do you have a favorite Gronk story? >> I know you do. I do. Let's go. What we got? >> I got a good one. I got a good one. All. right, so Gronk, like. Gronk is um. he's Okay, Gronk's I love Gronk. Gronk. didn't ever work You know, like a lot of. receivers, tight ends would work on. catching drills. >> Yeah. >> So like, you know, afterwards hit the.

jugs machine, you know, 100 catches. And. all the receivers did it. Julian would. come at like 6:00 in the morning and. throw tennis balls off the wall and do. one-hand drills. I never saw Gronk ever. do any catching drill, ever. And I would throw the ball and every. ball I'd throw to Gronk, like he'd have. these big white gloves, right? And when. he'd put his hands up like this, it. looked like the top of A TRASH CAN. >> [laughter]. >> AND HE WOULD RUN ACROSS THE FIELD AND. AND HE would go. >> [laughter]. >> with like. say it like a smile on his face. And I'd. throw it and it would the ball would.

just abso- the ball would just stick to. his hands, right? So it was like. unbelievable. So one day, it's like his. his like third year in the league, all. all right? And we're at practice and I. throw him a ball and it like hits like. the palm of his hands and like falls on. the ground. And Gronk looks at me [snorts] and he's. like, "What What was that? Like, what just. happened?" So, he goes, "Tommy, throw me a throw me the ball again.".

And I took the ball and I fired at him. and he caught it. And he it was like. he gained HIS CONFIDENCE BACK. >> [laughter]. >> AND BY THE WAY, FOR THE REST OF THE. CAREER, I NEVER SAW HIM DO A catching. drill. So, it was like. >> [laughter]. >> there was there was a 5-second. a 5-second loss of confidence in the in. a receiver's career and it was like I'll. never forget it. He was just like so. lovable and you're like, "Come here, man. You're [ __ ] You're. unbelievable.". >> The laughing while he's running full.

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like, I don't know. I got Not like I'm. the general manager or anything. Like. And uh he showed up and they're like, "Tommy, Randy The Randy's here.". So I went saw him. He's like, "Yo, man. I love love the way you play, man. I. want to like I want to figure out how to. make it happen." Of course I'm like, "All right. Like why are you talking to. me?". >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. LIKE I LOVE THAT, TOO. BUT, you. know. And then sure enough, yeah. Like. it all The trade goes down in '07. >> Yeah. >> And um we got Randy. And all of a sudden. it was like, "Well, what can you know?". A lot of people say, "Well, he's done.

What can he do?" He comes into OTAs and. he wasn't in the best of shape in OTAs. Like, you know, probably not most He. probably had a few years in Oakland. where, you know, it wasn't the most. motivated. So probably didn't get the. best out of him. So he's kind of getting. guarded by some people in OTAs by like. some guys he shouldn't be guarded by. >> Yeah. >> And I'm kind of like, "When is he going. to turn it on?" All of a sudden we get. to training camp and we run the. conditioning test. And Randy comes he. takes his shirt off. He's lean, like in. shape. He's running the conditioning. test like a deer.

>> [laughter]. >> This is the. >> we get out there. It's like probably. like the second week of training camp. and we run a flea flicker. And Randy's. the the intended receiver and I throw it. literally as far as I can. And Randy's run he beats the safety. And. Randy would always kind of lolly off the. line of scrimmage and he would always. just watch the safety. So he lolly at. the safety and as soon as the safety. either came forward or flat-footed then. Randy would just. hit the gas. So Randy hits the gas. I. throw it as far as I can. Randy opens up.

and just as he's sticking his arm out, he grabs his hamstring. >> Oh. >> And tweaks his hammy. So he misses the. rest of training camp. Doesn't play a. preseason game. And now it's like, "All. right. Week one, we still don't know. what Randy can do.". And we go out there against the Jets in. week one. And we had this play. >> And that's the Revis jet, right? >> Yeah. Uh Revis wasn't Revis.

>> [laughter]. >> This is the. Revis wasn't Revis was that was Revis's. rookie year. Yeah, was Revis's rookie. year. So we start the game Randy catches. a few balls and then there was a ball on.

the sideline. He kind of ran like I. don't know what you'd call it but like a. deep out route but kind of you stem it. in you stem it up the field and you. and then you run to the the side. probably 18 to 20 yard throw and they. had a good rush on and I could feel the. rush coming and I knew Randy was running. an outbreaker so I kind of like just as. I was getting hit I threw it and as I. was going to the ground course you can't. see anything and I'm thinking all right. I kind of was throwing it out of BOUNDS. YEAH [laughter] AND ALL of the sudden I. hear the crowd go.

and I looked up and I was like he caught. that. and you see the highlight he like. catches it outside of you know the frame. it's over his head and he taps his feet. and what should have been you know just. a foul ball he ends up it's like a 20. yard gain and at that point I was like. this shit's going to be. a lot a receiver that's not that fast. and still be productive. You can't be a. slow DB. All those guys run 4-3, high. 4-3, low 4-2s, low 4-4s, sorry. So, Randy, because of his speed, I knew he.

was faster than everybody on the field. So, whenever I saw Randy's speed, I. could just gauge my ball flight and the. trajectory of the ball on his on his. speed. And where when he started. running, I just threw it as far as I. could to gauge Randy's speed. A lot of. the times, which meant the further and. higher I threw it, the better chance. Randy had to catch it. For most. receivers, the higher you throw it and. the further, the more the DB has a. chance to catch up. >> Yeah, you're bringing up what I like.

what really stands out with Randy is. that tracking of the ball when it's in. the air, right? Like. >> Yeah. >> that ability to like turn it into like. another gear. The only other guy I've. ever seen do it is DeSean Jackson. >> DeSean, yeah. >> Like those are the only TWO THAT I CAN. THINK of where when that ball is up. there and hanging, they just separate. >> Um. >> Yeah. >> Is that like that's got to be like an. underrated attribute of. >> To to be able to not slow down while. you're doing that. You know what I mean? Because it's one thing they put the head. down, put the shoulders down and dig.

It's another thing to be able to keep. that speed and. >> I think that's why they could jump They. didn't They weren't digging. They were. like just like gliding. Like if they. just like did it, it still looked like. normal speed. It was. >> I know. And what happens a lot of times. when you turn your neck, you turn your. shoulders. So, no one would say run a. 40-yard dash at the combine, but turn. your shoulders [laughter] back to that. to the starting line. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> But Randy had a long neck, you know, cuz. he was tall. So, he could kind of turn. his neck, cuz the guys that are really. thick in the traps and don't have a long. neck, it's really hard for them to turn.

their head. You know, when you turn your. head, you typically slow down. >> That's why Jason's golf swing so is. tight. >> Stop. Stop it. >> [laughter]. >> Such a unique skill set. Crazy. >> It really is, man. It's And you know who. had a. Tyreek Hill is another one. >> Oh my god. >> He didn't have that stride that the two. we were just talking about, DeSean. >> It was different. It's just his yeah. >> But he But his ability to find the ball. and to and to meet it down is. second to none, too. >> Trav, you must have seen some crazy. plays in practice from him, right? And.

then. >> It's insane. It's insane. The first I. would tell I told everybody the the year. we got him, I think he was he was a. fifth or sixth round pick. And the first. day we got him, it was like a little. seven-on-seven in OTAs. And he caught he. caught like just like a flat router like. it was like a bubble slant RPO and he. just he was the bubble. He caught the. bubble. Nobody got within two arms. length of him and he just ran down the. sideline. And I'm just sitting here like. >> [laughter]. >> We just got the most electric player in.

the draft. Like it was insane, dog. And. and his ability And you already know a. lot of the a lot of the practice reps in. is just like what you were saying, just. testing out how how far a quarterback. can throw it in which he like we can. connect down field. If he can track it. And seeing the plays that him and. Mahomes would make in OTAs or in. training camp. And just testing the. waters to see, you know, how far we. could go. I mean, it's insane. >> I remember you guys played uh the. Chargers maybe week one of that year and.

you were at that little Home Depot. Center or whatever it is like the soccer. stadium. >> The soccer stadium, yeah. >> The soccer stadium. And he caught a. slant route. >> It was that, yeah. >> And and and cribbed it. >> I was like, oh. my god. >> way down. >> [laughter]. >> hit the 200 and just [ __ ] took. >> Okay, I got a good story about that. So, we play you guys one year and Bill was. like, all right, the calls on third down. are one double Travis. One double 87. >> Mhm. >> And we we didn't double uh Tyreek. And. Tyreek went for like 200 plus that game. And you guys beat us. And Bill came in.

the next day and says We're doubling. Tyreek. >> Exactly. >> [laughter]. >> And we are not going to let him go for. 200 on us. So, it was like back and. forth on third down who we were doubling. and it's so I mean it's kind of cool for. us cuz you do see like I mean most NFL. players are obviously supremely talented. and then every once in a while you see. someone who is just a little more. talented than everybody else and you go. man that is a special talent. That's. crazy. >> Yes. And a lot of times it just stands. out immediately.

>> Oh yeah, right away. >> Yeah. >> Like Aaron Donald as a pass rusher, I. mean is like everyone and then Aaron. Donald's. >> Yes. >> Um you know everyone and then Randy. Moss. Everyone and then Darrelle Revis. Everyone and then Ray Lewis. You know. everyone and then Ed Reed. It's like. even if there's a Hall of Fame and then. to me there's like one player that's. like even better than every Hall of. Famer. It's like. >> says it best man. You guys got to find. another hall for me to be in man. I love Prime when he says that. >> And it really is true. I I think there's.

very few players that aren't like it's. not scheme dependent. It's not like it. doesn't matter who's on their team. Like. that guy would have been the best of all. time regardless of where he was and who. he was with. >> Yeah. >> That's like a whole 'nother realm of. football player. >> I got to ask you about one more one more. teammate man. One of my favorite of all. time that everywhere he goes he wins. Joe Thuney. Big Big Thuney man. You got. to tell You got any good Thuney stories? >> Ohio. >> I got a lot Yeah. I call I used to call. him Looney Tunes. Uh.

But Joe Joe was like a I think like a. third round pick for us and he played. tackle at NC State. We moved him to. guard, started as a rookie. We had a. great O-line coach. Uh Dante Scarnecchia. And Dante was just. I can't say enough good things about. him. Like what he taught me, what he. taught the offensive line. He gave the. line so much confidence. And like you. know five guys in there, you guys all. play together. He gave that line. confidence through his techniques but. also everything was black and white with.

Scar. There was no gray area. This is. how we're doing it and okay, if we can't. get it that way, I'll change it. But, we're going to And everyone was so. decisive and they played well together. And Joe just came in and he embraced all. that. He had, you know, David Andrews. was next to him a few times as as. center. I mean, he was just the perfect. guard. Size, strength, you know, probably he didn't have the longest. arms, but it didn't matter, you know? But, we moved him to a tackle one game.

and he was like, "I've never played. tackle. I don't know I And Dante said, "Listen, just [ __ ] kick, get to the. junction point, punch.". >> YEAH. YEAH. >> [laughter]. >> AND IT WAS LIKE. IT WAS LIKE, "OKAY, THAT'S all I got to. do.". >> Just give us a chance, baby. That's all. >> I know. And then, yeah, I mean, he he. he's just He was a captain. He was just. He always did the right thing. I mean, there was like no He showed up. He was, you know, he sweated his ass off. I. mean, and he just He was the consummate pro. and he should be a champion. He still. is. He's He's just a great player, great. guy. >> We miss him as a teammate out there in. KC, man. He's one of my favorite of all.

time. And we actually moved him to. tackle for an entire season. And and he. took us to the Super Bowl the last one. we were. >> Well, it wasn't the whole season. End of. the season. >> Yeah, it was like. >> Yeah, yeah. But, yeah. >> Through the playoffs and everything. >> Yes, exactly. Um we got to ask you. another one of our favorites, Jules. Tell us about How does he go from. like special team but was a quarterback. at Kent State? >> QB at Yeah, the baby. >> Dude. >> He was running the MAC, dude. >> What Tell us that story. >> So, he signed with the same agent that I. had. So, I knew who he was. Uh. Donnie and Steve Dubin who were our.

agents and he was from the Bay Area. So, he grew up like 5 minutes from where I. grew up. So, I knew who he was and all. of a sudden we got back and Billy. O'Brien was like, "Hey, we're sending, you know, we're going down to check this. kid out from Kent State." And I was. like, of course. So, he ends up being a punt returner. uh to get started. We have We have West. already at that position when we got. Julian. So, of course, my I mean, West. was one of like the greatest teammates I. ever had. One of the greatest receivers. ever to play in football was. Look at. Wes's six-year stretch with us. It was.

unmatched. I mean, he was incredible. And Julian comes in and he's got a. chance to learn from Wes, but we didn't. really need Julian that much because we. had someone in that position. But, Julian just had a chip on his shoulder, you know? He was And he worked his ass. off, you know, Julian had one of the. greatest work ethics of anyone I've ever. seen. And he. Okay, so the difference is this. When. you play quarterback. like Julian did in college, the ball was. in his hands and now he could do.

something with it. When you play. receiver, you have to do something to. get the ball in your hands. You don't. line up behind the offensive line like. the running backs do. So, to learn to be. a receiver, to learn how to run a route, to learn how to get open, to learn how. your footwork, that's like an incredibly. difficult skill set. And it took him. years to figure it out. And to Julian's. credit, you know, 2009, he you know, he. he played really well. We had we had a. playoff game, we got our ass kicked. against the Ravens. Julian was the best.

player on the field that day for our. team. And 2010, he didn't play much. 2011, he broke his arm, didn't play. much. 2012, Wes was still there, so he. didn't play that much. And then finally, 2013 came. After four years, you know, he played defense, he played punt. returner, and then he just he got way. better at running routes. And again, just tenacious, tough, like Julian had. juice every day. And you know, he was. just he built himself into one of the.

greatest players the Patriots ever had. >> Yeah, that's pretty awesome, man. What is there something about that body. type. that like short, sawed-off white guy. that's just Those feet are just MOVING. QUICKER. WE'RE GOING TO GET AN OPTION. ROUTE ON A ON A GUY IN THE SLOT. AND. THEY'RE not going to be able to redirect. as quick as this guy. Like. >> You know what? In In some ways, Jay, it. was like because okay, our team was. built differently than a lot of others. Like we didn't always have the highest. paid players. In fact, when a lot of. guys would have a chance to get free.

agent contracts, they would, you know, trade those guys and let them get paid. somewhere else. And then we'd have to. replace them with lesser talented. players. One position that's unique in. the NFL is receiver. Like Jamar Chase. makes 40 million a year. Tee Higgins. makes 30. Tyreek Hill was making almost. 30. We didn't have those players. So. we had to like find production from. other areas and slot receivers in the. NFL don't get paid top dollar for. receiver. So in a way, we paired like.

this team kind of receiver group with. some rookies and some I would say more. role type players at receiver because we. had these inside players, I'll call. them, that played tighter the formation. that could still be very productive. because they had great route trees and. they were very that maybe not vertical. speed as fast as vertical speed, but. they had short area quickness and that. short area quickness is what the game's. all about. I would argue would you. rather be fast or or have great short.

area quickness? I'd rather have short. area quickness. Football's a game of. quickness, not speed. Now. >> Tommy, we can be on the same time and. get [ __ ] done more with that short area. quickness and getting that like showing. color and getting open. over the over the middle of field. especially for the tight ends and the. inside receivers, but. >> And Trav, you're you're 6'5 having 250. 255 and you have twitchiness. You had. size, length, you had did have speed and. you did have, you know, they couldn't. arm tackle you and you had twitchiness.

Your footwork is more like a slot. receiver than is a tight end. So like. there's a reason why you got open a lot. like Antonio Gates always did. >> Man, I was just going to say the same. thing. Like your game was probably a lot. like him. >> 100%. Another mad guy that can stay. >> [laughter]. >> can stay is getting a lot of love, man. >> All right, we're we're running out of. time. We got to get to this last. section. >> Yeah, we don't want to. >> We got to ask. Uh we're going to start. off back in March, you also became part. of the JP Morgan Chase Athletic Council. Can you tell us more about this? >> Yeah, I was got asked to be on a on a a.

council um with JP Morgan to. try to influence and educate athletes to. make better financial decisions. And you. know, a lot of us grow up and look, we're good athletes and you know, we try. our best in school, but a lot of us are. a little bit under developed when it. comes to managing our money, making good. decisions, creating budgets. And it was. put together. um Jaylen Brunson's there, Asia Wilson, Dwyane Wade are just a few of the people. involved. Um Megan Rapinoe, uh just. there's a really great group of people.

I'm missing on some others, sorry about. that, but we kind of came together and. we're creating um. opportunities for athletes for financial. literacy. And it's it's pretty it's. pretty cool just for us to you know, make a difference in in other people's. lives. And a lot of us are blessed with. people that give us great advice, some. people aren't. So, we want to be that. place where people go to say, "Okay, well, you know, how do I make sure that. I don't finish my playing career and not. have any money?". >> No, seriously. And it's becoming an even. bigger issue with like the NIL and kids.

are getting paid earlier and earlier and. uh a lot of these kids in college, they've never seen any type of like does. it like I learned most of this stuff in. college, right? And they're getting. money before they've ever talked to. anybody about it. So, this is awesome, man. Very very worthwhile. >> Yeah, I spent all of my first check and. regretted [laughter] every second of it. Didn't have anything to show for it. All. of it went to rent and [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Yeah, some car that I don't even have. anymore. I bought. >> Yeah, no, I didn't even have a car. I. stole Jason's car. That's all right. I. was spending money on way dumber [ __ ]. than that. At least the [laughter] car.

was what got me to the facility on time. Um no, that's awesome stuff, man. And. you already know that's it's it's. something that's even bigger now with uh. the college uh and how much they're. making in college and things like that, like Jason said, but we have to ask, man, have you seen the clip? We We had a. a guy, Ben Affleck, come on the show, one of our favorites. He mentioned a. story. about playing catch with you. Do you. Have you seen that clip? Do We could. probably find it here, but I Do you know. what he's talking about?

>> To this day, aside from the birth of my. children, that was the greatest day ever. I was like, "Dude, are you for real?". He's like, "I need someone to play catch. with." Happened to be on vacation at the. same place with him. >> So, this was legit This was as legit as. it gets. You're getting You're helping. Tom get ready for the season. >> I don't know how much I was helping him. I think he was like He was like, "I'm. going to blow this dude's mind.". >> [laughter]. >> I remember we were at Baker's Bay. together.

This was. Yeah, I needed someone to catch. I mean, we're getting ready for football season. And I was down there with the summer. It. was quiet. And I'm like, like, "Hey, you got You know, can can you catch?". You know, and he's like, "I can catch.". You know, and I'm like, "All right, let's go.". So, I got all these balls and I'm on. that big field, Trav. I don't know if. you saw that field. I'm on the big. field. They got it painted. And I'm. like, "All right, like let's see what. you got." You know, and you're a big You. know, he's obviously a big Patriot, loved the Red Sox. Um.

and I had known Ben for a while and I'm. like, "All right, here we go." And. finally, I remember getting to the end. and I was like, "I want to put a little. pressure on him, see what the hell. happen." And I was like, "All right, fourth down, you know, Super Bowl's on. the line, you know, I'm calling your. number. This is the route we're. running." I think it was a flag route I. gave him. And like, "I'm going to throw. it, see if you catch it." And he got. running and I put one up there and he. stretched his arm out and he caught it. And it was. You know, for all of us, I mean, can you. imagine like us as kids just thinking, "We're going to get paid to play.

football and. you know, throw passes." And then, you. know, think about Ben. He's thinking, you know, he's to make movies, but then. he's out there with this Patriot player. and I don't know, man, life is crazy for. all of us. >> going to say, did you know it was that. big of a moment for him? Cuz I mean, we all all all of us have that sports. fandom growing up of like doing that. with the in the moment with the guys. that are doing it. Like I can only. imagine how he felt. >> You have these perspective moments and. like I think I was I remember being out.

on the field. This is late in my career. And I would have You know, they do like. those charity galas and they give away. like throwing sessions. And then once. they're giving out like, all right, come. catch passes with Gronk. You know, and. Gronk's going to run around and he's. going to teach you the art of receiving. and and the guy paid like 200 grand. You. know, I'll pay for an hour and do that. It was great, you know, donate the money. to charity and and then I'm sitting. there like, I they pay me. to throw balls to Gronk. You know what I mean? And to throw balls.

to Julian and to throw balls to like. they pay me for that. Like never forget. balls from Patrick Mahomes. Like people. dream and he's throwing balls to Travis. Kelce. Like let's never forget that type. of perspective because when we were. kids, we didn't ever have that, you. know, growing up. Like it was our dream. to do this and now they're paying you to. do it and they're paying you to do it. with other people who are, you know, the. best in the world at what they do. So I. just think that's. >> baby. >> Yeah, exactly. Just great perspective to. keep.

>> I'd be remiss if we get out of this. interview without bringing up the old. ball coach. We didn't talk We haven't. talked about Bill one time yet. >> Yeah. >> I see so many thing and this started. happening while you guys were still in. the league. Like is it Bill? Is it Tom? Like who is responsible for the greatest. era of success in the history of the. NFL? What How do you react to those kind. of uh I guess clickbaity arguments as. well as like what do you think of Bill. and what he meant for your success?

>> First of all, I think he's the greatest. coach that, you know, ever uh greatest. head coach in terms of preparing a team. to win. There was nobody better. I was. my privilege to play for him as his. quarterback. There's no coach I'd rather. choose and I think it's like a dumb to. it's it's just a dumb analogy. It's like. what's more important the left tackle or. the center? Like I don't know. You can't. >> tackle. We'll be honest about that. WE'LL BE. >> [laughter]. >> I DISAGREE. I DISAGREE. YEAH, I think I think from like the the. coach quarterback, there's nobody more.

important to winning Monday through. Saturday than the head coach. >> Especially in football. >> Especially in football. And there's. nobody more important on Sunday than the. quarterback. Now, everybody's important. The the person who washes the clothes is. important. The person who drives the bus. is important. The quarterback just has. an outsized kind of ability to help the. team win because he touches the ball so. much. But I need everybody to do their. job. But if you have bad quarterback. play, it doesn't matter what else you. do, you're not going to win. >> Yeah.

>> And if you have bad coaching, it doesn't. matter how well the players are doing, you're going to lose. So, the tactics. from the coach and the accountability. and I think the head coach is the chief. accountability officer of a team, too. The the tactics are extremely important, Trap. You could run great route into the. wrong coverage and not get the ball. You. have an OC that draws up bad plays. because he can't beat coverages. It. doesn't matter what you Now, you'll. ad-lib and you'll be like, "No, I'm not. running out there.". >> [laughter].

>> No, baby. Come on now. >> You're never going to be really covered, you know? [laughter] They might have you. covered on paper, but. Yeah, you're going to you're going to. find the you're definitely going to find. some color to throw the ball to. So, I. just think that question is like they're. all important. And and my I couldn't. have I there's no way I could have been. the player I was without him. And I. think we pushed each other to get the. best out of each other and I think he's. just he's incredible. Anyone who played. underneath him would say the same thing. >> Hall of Famer, should have been first. ballot, man. It's crazy. One of the most. respected ever to [ __ ] do it, man.

>> I got to ask you. you got one of my former teammates. recently in New England. All right? I. know now you're a Raider, but you're. kind of always a Patriot. >> Yeah. >> What is the key. who knows what happened with the. relationship with Jaylen and AJ? That's. kind of between them. But for you as a. quarterback, how do you manage receivers. and their happiness and being involved. in the offense and all of that stuff? Like what is that as you from your role? >> It's very difficult and I think that's. the only position on offense that.

requires a lot of extra energy and. attention because the running backs are. going to touch the ball. The line, they're going to be engaged in every. play. The tight ends, run or pass, you're going to be engaged in every. play. It's the receivers who stand, you. know, 25 yards from the ball, jack, you know, just talking smack with. the DB, trying to figure out, all right, I ran my ass off and didn't get the. ball. And how do I stay. locked in and committed to the team when. I don't touch the ball? And it's a hard. thing. Like they're working hard to get. the ball and they don't get it. So, they.

get frustrated so easy. And And I almost. think like when I see these NFL. offseasons, I think I swear to God, I. think now like, this is just déjà vu. I've been seeing the same [ __ ] since. 2000 when I came into the league. You. know, this guy goes gets, you know, this. guy gets in trouble, he's arrested, this. guy gets cut, this guy gets traded, this. guy's unhappy at receiver. You know what. I mean? It's like It's It's It's like. Real Housewives OF THE NFL. >> [laughter]. >> IT'S THE same script. And it's like over.

and we just That position, it's like I. almost want to like the psychology of a. receiver, I almost want to say like. you're going to catch 110 balls this. year, okay? You're going to 17 games. You're a great receiver, you're going to. catch 110 balls. One game you're going. to get 11 and one game you're going to. get three. And the next game you're probably going. to get 11, then you're going to get. three. I can't have you like the. happiest guy in the world when you catch. 11 or the most miserable guy on the team. when you catch three. We got to look at.

it over the course of year. You got to. sustain cuz it is a lot of emotional. energy that you put out to that position. to go, "Come on. Come on, we got it. Come on, stay locked in. Let's go cuz I. need you. Come on." And it's like that. position takes away if you have that. volatile. emotional output, it takes a lot of. energy from a lot of people to keep that. player really stable. So, you got to. like try to reframe it for them and just. say, "Listen, like you may get three, but.

you're going to get 11. And or you might. get 11 11 11. and then, you know, three three It's. just the way it goes. If they're. doubling Travis, you ain't touching the. ball. That's the reality. If they're. butchering you at the line of scrimmage. by with a defensive end and they've got, you know, some ridiculous athlete over. the top of you, you ain't But it frees. it up for other people and you got to be. cool with that. So, I mean, it's that is. a is we're going to see it again this. year, you know, who's the next unhappy. receiver? And I understand it. I mean, it's not like I don't They want to be. involved in the game, you know? And A.J.

wanted to be involved in the game. I. covered a lot of those Eagles games, you. know, I'm and that that passing offense. isn't That's not what that team's known. for. You know, so now he's actually. going to a team where they are more. known for their passing offense. So, there he you know, there will be maybe a. little more satisfaction from him from. that standpoint. >> We want to get you out of here. We got. one more question we always ask. everybody that comes on. What was your. welcome to the NFL moment? >> Oh man, there was a lot of those. I I. had one um. probably in Buffalo. I was scrambling up. the right sideline. Nate Clements from.

Ohio State, he was a cornerback. He was. a big physical corner and I slid late. and uh he knocked the [ __ ] out of me. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, I REMEMBER THIS CLIP. >> I GOT UP, THE HELMET, I WAS LOOKING. AROUND. I I got taught in college like. get your ass up. Don't ever let the. defenders, you know, know you're down. >> yeah. >> And I was like, got up and I was like, HOLY [ __ ]. >> [laughter]. >> NO HELMET, NO HELMET ON? >> NO HELMET. >> imagine I can only imagine the face you. were making. Like, it's the helmet.

sometimes I just do it. >> [laughter]. >> Put that head down. >> That's right. And then I figured it all. out. But that was the one. >> Tom, can't I thank you enough. Really. appreciate you coming on. This is an. all-timer for us. >> All-timer, man. >> We we can't thank you enough. Thank you. >> Appreciate the time, the stories, dog. You're the best, dude. >> Yeah, love you guys. Good luck with. everything and we'll see you soon, okay? >> Yes, sir. >> Sounds good. >> ALL RIGHTY, THANK YOU TO TOM BRADY. Once. again, this conversation was brought to. you by Xfinity. Trav, I told you I I saw.

him earlier this year. >> He's just the [ __ ] best. And every. he's just so he's so good with like. >> words. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Did he Does that come with Michigan? >> I mean, I think. >> he get that? >> Typic- I mean, he's prob- Yeah, I mean, Michigan does have. >> I didn't get that, Sensi. >> Well, yeah. >> [laughter]. >> No, Tom. I told you I I I met him. earlier this year and like I I've always. heard from everybody how. like just intense he is and like how. much he cares and like.

the type of player he was. >> Yeah. >> And he's still like that. Like, you meet. him. >> Captivating. >> Like, he is so engaged in the. conversation. He loves football so much. talking about it, his teammates, his. time. And he's so good at articulating. all these themes in what made him. successful, those teams successful. >> There's so many good bits on what he. said that you could just you could. [ __ ] just All you high school kids. out there, bro, listen to what he's saying, man. Don't be a negative Nancy or bringing.

that weak ass energy into the into the. building or into the into school, into. life. >> And it's just so hard cuz he's so damn. good-looking. I can't I [laughter] like. try I have listen to what he's saying. and I'm just like, "What the [ __ ] is. happening?" Like, how are you the best. football player of all time, a model and. Do you see him on the runway the other. day? >> Yeah. >> He's literally walking down the runway. He looks just like a model. >> Gucci. >> How many gifts can one man have? >> I don't know, but. >> I I got popular being a dumb ass. >> [laughter]. >> Ditto.

Even dumber dumb ass. >> Shut up, Ditam. Uh, that was incredible. Awesome moment. to have Ditam on the show. >> Hell yeah. >> Um, now we're going to uh send it to. some exclusive live show clips. That's. right. Uh, this clip of our live No Dumb. Questions is brought to you by. Enterprise. All right, we're going to get SOME NO. DUMB QUESTIONS. LET'S GIVE IT UP FOR. MR. [screaming] JETS. JETS. >> [cheering]. >> THE NEW WORLD CHAMPION. >> LET'S GO.

>> WE THINK THE NICKS. I MEAN, WE THINK THAT JETS Jake tag. might be a little too depressing. So, how about Nicks Jake? DO WE LIKE IT? >> LET'S GO. >> [cheering]. >> HERE WE GO. WHAT DO YOU GOT FOR US IN. THE NO DUMB QUESTIONS CATEGORY? >> Here we go. FIRST UP IS CHARLOTTE. >> HI. OKAY, SO. >> OH, OKAY. >> [laughter]. >> UM, so I have two younger brothers. They're 10 and 14, and I swear they. never let me live anything down. So, if. you could permanently ban your brother. from telling one embarrassing story.

about you, what would it be? >> [cheering]. >> OH GOD. >> WOW. >> MAN. >> ALL RIGHT. >> Permanently ban my brother from telling. one embarrassing story about me. I feel. like everyone already knows my. embarrassing stories. >> Jason doesn't really get embarrassed. >> [laughter]. >> He just showed that he sat in dog [ __ ]. and better. He literally showed it. He was just. like, "Hey guys, look at this." I don't. even get a chance to tell an. embarrassing story about Jason. And to be fair,

we don't really embarrass each other. that much. I would say. I would say he usually tees up the. opportunity for me to tell a story where. I embarrassed myself. So, I'LL TELL YOU GUYS. OH! SO, UH NOT TOO LONG AGO, but a lot. >> Are you really Are you really going to. tell this? You want to tell this? You sure? >> Yeah. >> All right. All right. >> Well, it's not that bad. It's It's just. embarrassing. I have face blindness. Do. you guys know I have face blindness? Yeah, well, this was an episode of face. blindness.

Um I go to uh I go to New York and. there's a there's a huge uh festival. music festival out in the Hamptons and. I'm a huge music lover as you guys know. >> [cheering]. >> I UM. I GO WITH A BUNCH OF GUYS FROM NEW York. in the in the money world. So, it's like. a connection in like finances and I'm. thinking that I'm going to be around a. bunch of guys in finances at this music. festival. So, um I get up there and I immediately. start having beverages. It's kind of the. thing the Kelsey way of going about. things. >> [laughter]. >> And um I get shit-faced.

Get shit-faced. Don't really really know. who's on who's performing. at the concert. I'm just kind of up. there like, "Hey, you got any more tequila?" And uh. and a guy comes up and and and says, "Dude, Buffett's here. He wants to meet you." I'm like, "Holy. [ __ ] that's big money.". >> [laughter]. >> I'm like, "I am way too hammered to say. hello to this guy." I start talking.

finances. Uh. I got to go to the. Just get Get it together. Get water. Where's the water? Where's the water? So, I get a water. I go over to. meet Buffett. I shake his hand and man, we have the best conversation I've ever. had in my life. The man is literally. smiling from ear to ear. I'm thinking. I'm going to be rich here soon. He's. going to invite me in on all of his. investments. >> [clears throat]. >> And he starts telling his story in high. school when he uh he picked up the. guitar for the first time.

And I almost like right to his face, "No way! Warren Buffett PLAYED THE. GUITAR?". >> [cheering]. >> AND HIS FACE WENT FROM smiling ear to. ear. to not smiling at all. [laughter]. And then got tapped on the shoulder. because he had to GO SING. MARGARITAVILLE. >> [laughter]. >> SO I WAS HIS BIGGEST cheerleader singing. Margaritaville on the side So I have an.

episode of face blindness at least once. a month and that that was my that was me. mistaking Jimmy Buffett, the late great. unbelievable Jimmy Buffett for. thinking Warren Buffett was going to be. at a music festival in the Hamptons. That's probably the most embarrassing. story I have for you guys that Jason. doesn't tell, but he loves to tee that. one up for. >> I love that story so much. >> Thank you very much. >> one. Hold on. We have another total. question. >> Next up is Tara. >> Hi guys. My name's Tara. I am from.

Vegas, but. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Hey girl. I'm really care. I'm very fond. of Las Vegas. >> Oh yes. I'm a kindergarten teacher in. Vegas, BUT UM. >> [cheering]. >> YOU TEACHING THEM HOW TO PLAY BLACKJACK. OR NOT? >> You know what? Got to start young. Got. to start young. So. >> [laughter]. >> anyways, I'm from Vegas, but I'm. originally from Wickliffe, Ohio. >> OH! THE WICKLIFFE OHIO. I LOVE IT. RIGHT. down the street. >> Well, yes. I used to live directly next. door to Aunt Judy's.

>> Shut. your trap. >> You know Aunt Judy? Swear to god. >> The festival right behind the. >> Oh, I went to Our Lady of Mount Carmel. School right next door. >> She's not lying. >> What year is this? What years is this? >> It's legit. What? >> What years is this? Did you see us come. through that neighborhood? Yeah, my mom. tells me stories about your dad would. bring you guys over and to Aunt Judy's. and Randy's and. Yep. So. >> down memory lane. I appreciate you guys. appreciating this connection. >> right? Like we are bonding. We are.

bonding. >> Is there a question? >> Uh you're right. TELL US A STORY. UM. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, do you remember. back in the day going to Aunt Judy's and. visiting and possibly two little girls. that lived next door that you hung out. with cuz we did. >> Oh, man. >> Come on. No pressure. No pressure. >> Who's Aunt Judy? >> Your Aunt Judy. Yes. My mom's name was. Donna, too. Or is Donna. Sorry, she did. not. Um but yeah, my mom's name is.

Sorry, Mom. Sorry, Mom. But my mom's. name is Donna as well. >> [laughter]. >> But we um we're trying to remember the. other girls, seriously. Do you remember. two little girls we would visit? >> Uh. >> Yeah, I think. there was a number of people in that. block area that we knew. >> Very true. >> Um and there was a lot of kids. There's. definitely uh like families in that. neighborhood. >> Yes. >> Um. >> Getting close. >> remember them vaguely. >> [laughter]. >> Yes. So. >> am going to use this time to shout out.

Aunt Judy. We have one of the best aunts. of all time. >> And and uncles. Uncle Don is here as. well. >> Uncle Don is here as well. >> We got We got some unbelievable aunts. and uncles. And I will say this, going over to Aunt. Judy's was one of the most exciting. times every time because Aunt Judy. spoiled the living [ __ ] out of us. >> [ __ ] out of us. >> Yeah, what we didn't get from our. parents, Aunt Judy made sure to have. >> She had so much candy and toys. >> Oh, yeah. She taught me how to be a. funko. >> wait to go to Aunt Judy's. >> And now I go over Jason's house and hand.

out bubble gums like it's candy. >> Thank you so much. >> I got the bubble gun. >> And she was the only person I knew that. would swear at my dad and he would just. take it. >> Yeah, probably. >> [laughter]. >> We love it. Thank you. Thank you very much. One more? Is that. it? >> We'll do one more later. >> All right. Thanks, Jake. Jake, you got another uh. no dumb question for me? Next up we're Oh, there we go. We have. two more no no dumb questions for you. guys. First up is Sarah.

>> Hello, I'm Sarah from Texas. Nice to. meet y'all. My question is if you were followed. around for 24 hours, what is the habit. that would shock people the most? >> MOM. >> [applause]. >> THAT WOULD SHOCK PEOPLE THE MOST. Um. >> [snorts]. >> Maybe how much deodorant I put on.

>> You put on a lot? >> Yeah, I mean I'm a spray deodorant guy, but I'm like shh. >> I noticed it in the uh. the green room. >> And then it's like that's not the only. place I have hair. >> Yeah. >> So then I'll go. >> This is all This all makes so MUCH MORE. SENSE. >> I'M KIDDING. NOBODY DOES THAT, RIGHT? >> [laughter]. >> Um. >> What is a disgusting habit for Jason? I.

I know I shh. >> Everybody knows I'm I don't use shampoo. >> FOR WHAT? >> [laughter]. >> KYLIE AT ONE POINT SAID IF YOU you're. making me break out in acne because. YOU'RE NOT SHAMPOOING. >> [laughter]. >> I DON'T KNOW. I'M A HOT SPOTS GUY. Hot spots. >> Hot spots. >> Hot spots. >> All right, well there you go.

>> Pits, pits, this and that. That's it. >> And this is no dumb questions, ladies. and gentlemen. >> [applause]. >> The questions that mean absolutely. nothing that you'll learn way too much. about somebody. than you could have ever imagined. You. should go out and get our no dumb. Questions book. Do you guys know that we. were authors? >> [cheering]. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's what I'm most proud There it is. right there. I cannot read or write, but I got a. book. What we got next?

>> Uh we have a No Dumb Question from a. familiar face. This is Kason from Texas. >> AH! >> TEXAS IN THE HOUSE. KASON, I think I. know you. >> A little bit. So uh I got the uh the Jets Jake pin-up. tattoo. >> For those OF YOU. >> OH! >> [cheering]. >> THERE YOU GO. >> YEAH, get that thing. Look at him. Look at him. >> There we go. Oh! >> He looks so much happier in A KNICKS. HAT. >> [laughter]. >> SO UH MY NO DUMB QUESTION was I was.

wondering since uh the Cowboys won the. the Chiefs Thanksgiving game. >> The [ __ ]. >> Thank Thank you. >> No. >> [cheering]. >> Thank you for the ticket. I appreciate. it. >> Let the man ASK HIS QUESTION. LET THE MAN ASK HIS QUESTION. >> THEY CHEATED AND YOU KNOW THEY DID. >> Thank you for the tickets, but uh we we. had a bet and if y'all won, I would get. you on my other thigh. But I was. thinking. since uh. >> I didn't know that. >> [laughter]. >> I forgot. Since since they won and I got the uh.

Jets Jake pin-up tattoo, could I chug a. beer with you guys? >> Oh, no. >> Next question. >> The consequences chugging beers. >> You want a lime original? >> Lime. >> All right, these boys have been on ice. >> All right, I feel a little I'm going to. go air towards this way, Kason. I don't. want this thing falling. There we go. THERE WE GO. >> [applause]. >> ALL RIGHTY. >> ALL RIGHT, IS THIS A CHUG OFF OR IS THIS. A THREE OF us Are we chugging all of it.

or are we just doing a nice little. gentleman's chug? >> Whatever you want. >> Are we Are we doing Are we doing a chug. off? >> [cheering]. >> Chug! CHUG! CHUG! >> WHAT? >> ALL RIGHT, HOW ARE WE DOING THIS? JAKE, YOU GOT A WHISTLE OR SOMETHING? >> Uh. 3 2 1? >> 3 2 1 and we on go or you going 3 2 1. go? >> 3 2 1 go. >> All right. >> Ready? 3 2 1 GO. >> [cheering].

>> YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR GAME, LITTLE BROTHER. >> [applause]. >> WAS THAT AS GOOD AS THE PIN-UP TATTOO OR. NO? >> That was great. I appreciate y'all so. much. >> the new little man, brother. >> THANK YOU, [cheering] BROTHER. >> [applause]. >> ONCE AGAIN, SHOUT OUT. THANK YOU for. supporting and sponsoring the live show. >> Yes. Nothing parties like a rental.

>> Once again, that clip of live no dumb. questions was brought to you by. Enterprise. AND THAT WRAPS UP ANOTHER. SHOW AND A SEASON OF NEW HEIGHTS. THANK. YOU TO ALL THE 92%ERS FOR TUNING IN. THANK you to our wonderful crew for. putting the show on each and every week. It could not be possible without you. guys. Thank you so much. Um thank you to. our wives and fiancés for allowing us to. make fools of ourselves each and every. week. And uh. >> Hopefully we haven't made too much of a. fool for the household. All right.

>> Once again, New Heights is a wondrous. show brought to you by Expedia, the. place you go to go places. 92%ers, thank. you so much for tuning in each and every. single week. We'll see you guys next. year with uh our 200th episode on the. horizon, man. It's crazy, dog. It's. absolutely crazy. You guys are crazy. We. appreciate you and love you so much. And. uh we'll see you guys next year to our. production and team. We love you guys as. well uh for always making it easy. Yes, you, Brandon. Shout out to Brandon. And. you, Jake, even though you're not here. We love you guys. PEACE.

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