Super Bowl 60 with Julian Edelman & Cooper Kupp, NFL Beauty Pageants, & Burger Flipping OCs | EP 178

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about all the wonderful that we have. coming up on this uh episode. specifically. >> That's right. 92enters, we've got. another great episode. It's Super Bowl. week. We'll preview the big game and. we've got two incredible guests to help. us do it. That's right. Cooper Cup and. Julian Enelman are on the show right now. today and we're going to let them kind. of tell us what they think as well as uh. what's to come for Super Bowl 60. But. before we get into that, let's get into. some of that new news. >> New news. >> New news is brought to you by Reese's. Oreo Cups. And the newest news of new.

news is that the Eagles have finally. hired an offensive coordinator Shawn. Manion. >> How about it? For those of you that are. unaware, Shawn Manion's past and what he. is is I guess what his lineage is. He. has been in the McVey tree pretty much. his entire career. He was with the Rams. briefly under Jeff Fischer. Uh but for. the most part, he has been with Shawn. McVey and the Rams. He's been with Kevin. O'Connell in uh the Vikings and he has. more importantly only been coaching for. two years uh under the Matt Laflur tree.

in Green Bay. So, he is very well-versed. in that specific coaching tree. What. does that tell me? That system, uh, that. tells me the Eagles offense is going to. look drastically different. That's a. signal that the Eagles are going to try. and move into where a lot of the NFL is. going, which is a lot of the run play. action um, motion offenses that are. really spreading across the league. because they've been very successful. >> Yeah. Um, a lot of this stuff is rooted.

in the Mike Shanahan, Gary Kubak. lineages back in the 90s. Denver Broncos. era, Terrell Davis, uh, John Elway, and, um, rooted in outside zone boot. These offenses are doing more duo. >> Don't forget how how how well that tight. end can thrive in these offense with. little Shannon Sharp, man. >> Well, you're right. >> Uncle's a part of those Broncos years. This is a signal that the the Eagles are. going to change drastically and probably. change in a way that a lot of Eagles.

fans want them to do. There's been a lot. of noise throughout the year about, you. know, stagnant offenses, limited route. receiver, uh, route trees, you know, a. lot of things that Monday morning. quarterbacks have been showing clips of. and getting Eagles fans fired up about. Uh, Eagles fans have been voicing their. displeasure of what the offense looked. like. This is a clear sign that that is. going to be drastically different next. year. I'm excited to see what this looks. like. >> Jaylen's under center a lot more in this. this type of offense and what that does.

for Saquon, what that does for for for. Jaylen in terms of run fakes and things. like that. Um, obviously like uh he's. he's always been a kind of in the gun. kind of quarterback, but I think there's. it there's something about what this. offense this style of offense does to to. help a quarterback if he just dives in. and uh and and accept it. Now, don't get. me wrong, it's Jaylen Herz. They're. going to do stuff out of the gun because. that's where he's comfortable and. they're going to they're going to kind. of mold this thing around him because.

he's the one he's the signal caller. But. at the same time, I'm I'm interested to. see, you know, how they're going to be. using these big offensive linemen and in. the outside zone and all the different. variations of it. It's going to be it's. going to be fun to see how it all kind. of unfolds. >> Yeah, I think you bring up a a good. point about it molding around Jaylen. Herz. think it'll be interesting to see. how much this offense for the Eagles. next year does look like a lot of these. other uh McVey Shanahan tree coaches and. what they did in what he did in Green. Bay with the floor um versus what the.

Eagles have had success with with Jaylen. Herz and the skill set that he has. They. when they had uh Malik Willis playing. this year, they did a lot more of gun. runs and zone reads and things like. that. Uh Jordan Love will do that stuff. as well. The one thing I really like. about Charmaine is that he has. familiarity a little bit in that stuff. as well, especially as a quarterback. coach. He understands, you know, how do. we utilize the strengths of the signal. caller. You saw Jordan Love develop when. he got to Green Bay and become a better. player. So, there's a lot of things that.

I like out of what appears to be Shawn. Manion's um not just his past. experiences and players he's coached, but also how those players have. developed and gotten better. I also like. that he's a fast riser, right? two years. and all of a sudden he's a offensive. coordinator. That tells me that there's. a lot of other coaches that are speaking. very highly of this guy, right? >> Yep. You don't get an opportunity like. this without a lot of people vouching. for you this early. >> I'm excited to see what this thing look. like looks like. I really am. >> People in in Philadelphia are getting.

what they asked for. They're they're. going to get a completely different. version of uh these uh this highly uh. skilled and highly powerful offense as. well as everyone's coming back healthy. So, it's it's definitely going to be. something that's uh that um is going to. be fun to watch. >> No doubt. There is still the question. mark. I mean, the big thing everybody's. talking about, he's never called plays, right? That's the big negative. And most. of the really good play callers that are. doing a great job currently in the NFL. already have jobs, right? There was a. guy available, Mike McDaniel. He took.

the LA job. Brian Dable takes a. Tennessee job. So, you know, who else do. you get that is you feel really. confident in? they decide to go with the. guy who's up and coming and has a lot of. uh interesting uh backgrounds and ways. to kind of shift and mold the offense. into something new. And we're just have. to wait and see how he is as a play. caller. >> I hear you. And don't get me wrong, having Andy Reid as my play caller my. entire life. I have been the most. fortunate of having a really seasoned. play caller that knows knows when to.

dial these things up. But at the end of. the day, there's going to be, you know, there's going to be those big time. situational plays where, yeah, you're. really leaning on the coach to to put. you in a good spot, but at the the. majority, I think, of the time in the. NFL, you're going out there, you're. having to make something work. and and. so at the end of you have the players. there and it's just the accountability. and making sure that it all meshes well. and that the the coaches are putting.

them in good positions, but at the end. of the day, you know, going out there. and making those [ __ ] plays is is is. what's going to change the game. >> No doubt. And uh you there's a question. in here, what does he have to do to win. over the Philly faithful? Let's I mean, there's it's not complicated. You go out. there and win games and you have a good. offense. I mean, there's not an easy way. to do it. I mean, sometimes you gota you. gotta kick the biggest you gotta go jail. rules, right? When you go to jail and. there's a lot of intimidating. >> You don't know anything about jail, Jason. >> Well, I hear this though. I hear this.

from people who have been to jail. I've. heard it in movies. So, it's got to have. some truth. You go up to the biggest. baddest guy and you start a fight, right? To set the tone that I'm not to. be [ __ ] with, right? So, I think Shawn. Man needs to go to the biggest baddest. Philadelphia Eagles fans house and just. go and egg it. He's just got to egg. their house. preemptively egg their. house. Take the fight to them. >> to start egging houses. Listen, we do have some film breakdown. and video that we're going to be diving.

into from Shawn Manion and Green Bay and. looking at, you know, what this offense. looks like. I think we've wanted to get. into video breakdowns before. It's not. the easiest to figure out uh virtually. and with all the editing and whatnot, but uh we've tried to do something and. we're only going to get better at it. Yeah. So, we're going to be doing some. film breakdown of why we like the hire, why we don't, what we think it'll. incorporate into the Philadelphia Eagles. offense, as well as just watching ball. I love watching talking ball and Green. Bay was doing some really cool.

interesting things. So, yeah, keep a. lookout on the YouTube channel for when. that comes out. And uh yeah, we also. have a special guest at the end of the. episode today. >> You guys are not going to want to miss. this. >> Who uh was not the biggest fan of Kevin. Patulo, as you guys might remember. We. got Sam Salvo, the young man who went. virtual for saying that Kevin Patulo. should be flipping burgers and AJ Brown. needs to start packing his bags at the. end of the episode. He's a young star in. the making and um we're going to have. him on to talk about this new hire in.

Shawn Manion. >> Can't [ __ ] wait. Travis is headed to. Waste Management's Open ProAm. >> Yes, sir. >> Trav, you ever been there before? Have. you played in it? >> So, those those of you that don't know. what it is, it's the PGA tournament out. in Arizona, out in Phoenix. Uh, the. Waste Management Open is iconic. It's. iconic for how how much of a party it is. all weekend. The infamous whole 16 part. three is uh is [ __ ] electric. They. create an entire arena around a par.

three. It's like it's done like no other. hole in golf. And it's epic, man. I've. always wanted to play in it. I've always. wanted to well obviously play in the. PGA, but I've always wanted to actually. like uh play the course while this grand. stand is there. And it's pretty [ __ ]. cool that uh that I'm getting the. opportunity to. >> That's right. Well, famously in the. past, the tournament has had to suspend. alcohol sales because it is that wild, folks. Waste management does not mess. around. Tra, are you ready for this? Who. you paired with? >> Um am I? I don't know if I'm allowed to.

say or if I'm if I even know exactly who. it is that I'm paired with. Whoever I'm. playing with, uh they're a [ __ ] PGA. golfer, you know what I mean? So, uh. anytime I'm I'm around, you know, pros. in different uh different sports, I. always get pumped to like just I don't. know, kind of pick their brain and um be. a part of their world. So, this would be. this would be [ __ ] pretty damn cool, especially at a tournament like Waste. Management. that par three. What's the. distance on that sucker? Do you know? >> Last year it was anywhere from like 150.

to 180. >> Okay. Okay. So, it's not it's not like a. crazy distance. >> I think they give people the excitement. that oh, like somebody might jar this, you know? It's not like the the hardest. like, you know, green to to hit. >> So, like a 230 where you're like trying. to choose am I hitting a long iron or. what am I doing here? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I can't [ __ ] wait. I'm [ __ ] pumped. for this. Um I haven't swung a golf club. in 3 weeks. This will be so much fun to. just go out there and try not to hit one.

off of the [ __ ] nozzle and smoke. somebody in the stands, which would also. be hilarious. Um, I'm either going for. that or going to jar one, baby. >> Kill one or hole in one. Got it. All. right. I don't know. ESPN is airing the. Philly special this Friday, February. 6th. A30 for30 is coming out on the. Philly special. THAT'S RIGHT. >> WHAT ARE YOU IN IT? >> I am. Yes, I'm in it. Nick Fos is in any. everybody that touched the ball in the. Philly special as well as Doug Peterson. who made the call.

>> Douggee P. >> Listen, it's it's really. all-encompassing of that Super Bowl run, but the emphasis is definitely on that. play in particular and that moment for. Philadelphia. So, it was a blast to be a. part of all of us got together, me, Corey, uh Trey Burton, Nick Fos, and. Doug Peterson in Philadelphia to uh. reminisce about the play and talk about. what led to that moment. Uh, so that was. a lot of fun and I can't wait to see. what the final product looks like, man. I think uh, >> dude, I can't wait either, >> man. It was just so wild. Fourth and one.

in the Super Bowl. >> Angst game of your life. 30 seconds left. in the half. Oh, I can't [ __ ] wait. God gone, man. Talk about crazy weather. in in the United States right now. That. [ __ ] week in Minnesota. Holy [ __ ]. >> It was a balmy. what, 12? I don't remember. I just. remember leaving the stadium and it was. cold as [ __ ]. >> and it was a blizzard the whole time. Like literally I remember this is kind. of when Uber started and like Lyft and. all these car services really started to. like become a thing and I'm over here.

trying to get them everywhere. And. they're like, "Bro, I'm I can't even get. to you. Like the roads are so bad. The. traffic is all backed up because there's. really nowhere for everybody to go cuz. everyone's driving so slow." Like it was. like you had to get a Uber an hour and a. half in advance and it was like man it. was insane. But it made it that much. more fun to kind of be in that bubble. downtown with everyone because everyone. was just like you know what I'm not I'm. not going out to the Mall of America cuz. I can't [ __ ] get there. You know I'm.

going to go ahead and just hit the bars. and and hit these restaurants around. downtown and meet up with friends. And. man, it made it for such a [ __ ]. unique Super Bowl. Man, it was so cool. to, you know, see my brother win his. first Super Bowl, but also, you know, be. amongst the the madness that was that. Minnesota downtown that that year. >> It was wild. It sure was. I I was just. thankful for all the skywalks, not. having to go outside, >> dude. The skywalks. How about they got. that [ __ ] figured out in Minnesota, man? >> If they were going to make a dock about. any other game or play from your career,

what what what do you think they'd make. a dock about, Trav? >> Me? Like the Chiefs? >> Yeah. Or something in your career? I. think it would probably be the three jet. wasp. The the play in the Super Bowl to. Tyreek where we're down two scores and. we need a huge play or down three scores. and need a huge play down to our last, you know, or what felt like our last. dollar and and Tyreek came up [ __ ]. big with coach Benemy calling the right. play and Pat kind of throwing out. throwing it out there as famous words, but we got Wasp. What about Wasp? And uh.

man, absolutely electric. So, I' I'd say. that's probably our Philly special in. that regard, and that's the only one. that really comes to mind. >> All right, last bit of new news. Not. sure you guys know this, but we do have. a website, kelsey clubhouse.com. Um, if. you're throwing a Super Bowl party, we. got you covered. Check out the sale for. all of your party essentials. That's. right. Tablecloths, >> heat thermometer. Definitely got to know. if that meat is done cooking.

>> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, little jungle juice dispenser. Yeah. >> Can't forget your football balloons. Got. to make it festive. Yeah. >> Don't forget that charcoal, baby. >> The X's and O's plates. >> Make it football ccentric. Live it up. I. mean, this is the time of year, man. This is basically a national holiday. Super Bowl time. >> Dude, I don't know whose Super Bowl. party it was. I don't even know whose. house we were at. I just remember mom. and dad taking us to a Super Bowl party. and it was the year that the Titans.

played the the Rams in the Super Bowl. when it came down to that last like. play. You remember this the greatest. show? I don't [ __ ] know, but I. remember. >> it like it was yesterday. The whole. house that like it was a they were all. cheering for the Rams for sure. It was a. St. Louis like house because the entire. like I just remember Kurt Warner. memorabilia being everywhere and all the. cups and everything were St. Louis. All. the napkins were St. Louis and it's just. something about that as a kid, man. It's.

just implemented in my [ __ ] brain. All right. And uh once again, that's new. news brought to you by Reese's Oreo. Cups. Let's keep this thing moving into. a little bit of Super Bowl bold topics. That's right. It's the big game this. Sunday and we got some big things to. talk about. First thing is that Bold. Topics is brought to you by Xfinity. That's right. This week we're bringing. some friends on to talk about this big. game. And as always, we have our. notorious. introduction. I just made up a word. You.

guys know what I'm talking about. an introduction here. I see what you did. there. Yeah, Jason. >> By the way, we got some awesome guests. Let's get to the first one right now. Here to represent the New England. Patriots. He is the host of Games with. Names and Dudes on Dudes podcast. A. SEVEN-Y OLD PICK OUT OF KEN STATE, THREE-TIME SUPER BOWL CHAMPION, AND. SUPER BOWL MVP. 92% IS PLEASED. WELCOME. BACK TO the show for his second. appearance, Mr. JULIAN EDELMAN. >> ADNUT. EDNUT. >> Adlut himself. He's back. >> How you guys doing? How you guys doing?

Thanks for having me. >> Doing great, man. It's Super Bowl. weekend. >> No job January over here, man. Just. enjoying some uh some some free time, watching some watching some good ball on. the on the Sundays, man. >> Yeah, you're not used to that, though. It's that's probably an uncomfortable. feeling, huh? >> Yeah, you know the feeling, dude. You. know the feeling. >> I get it. I get it. >> When you go to I mean, you both have. been to a bunch of Super Bowls and and a. lot of them in a short amount of time, like your body clock is messed up that. first time. and you're you're not in it.

You're like, "What's going on?" Like, I'm growing a beard. I'm 5 years out and. it just feels right. Like, what the hell. are we doing? Why am I doing this still? >> Don't change it. Don't change it. >> It's stupid. >> IT'S 80°. YOU'RE NOT IN BOSTON ANYMORE, JULES. You don't need that. >> I know. I know. >> All right. Well, should we get right. into the Pats? What do you think? >> Let's do it, dude. >> How you feeling? What What What's your. confidence level for the Super Bowl for. the Patriots? >> Well, I'm excited. I'm super excited. Uh, and I am very confident with with.

the Patriots going into this game. Yeah, >> there's been a lot of talk about the. easy road, the schedule, uh, >> young football team going against a. juggernaut, and a lot of these, uh, narratives are things that this. organization has dealt with before. So, you know, I'm I'm very I'm very. interested to see the coaches of the. Patriots and what they game plan going.

into this thing. They've got they've had. a lot of experience in this. You know, Braves, yeah, he's he's never coached in. one, but he's got Josh McDaniels who's. coached in 10. He's been a former head. coach. Raves has played in this thing. So, I just think there's a lot of value. in that experience of the routine of the. Super Bowl cuz you guys know uh more. than anyone right now. This game is a. different game, >> completely different. >> and and the little things that the.

coaches prepare you for, or at least me, I saw come to fruition in the game. So, I I think I'm I'm excited with their. opportunity. >> Yeah, man. So, there's something we. wanted to ask you. It is a young team. There's a lot of guys that haven't. played in it. You mentioned Braves, the. organization have a ton of experience in. this game, >> right? >> You yourself obviously ton of experience. playing in this game in this week. What. piece of advice would you give the guys. that are playing in it for the first. time, the Drake Mays and the young.

players. What would you tell them? >> My advice would be is keep the routine. the same. Maybe maybe if you want, you. know, uh do a little couple extras like. I'd always c catch another like 500. balls after practice or, you know, something that wouldn't tax my body but. fundamentally get me confident and keep. the routine the same. You know, you guys. are here for a reason. It's because of. how you prepared uh all year going into. a game. It always worked, you know, and. it continued to work. So, you don't have.

to do too much. Uh, and then one last. thing I would tell them, you know, be. prepared for a marathon, not a sprint. This thing, this game is a, uh, it's. longer. >> Yep. >> Be prepared for, you know, spurts of rhythm throughout the game and. take advantage of that. >> Yeah. >> But know that this is a long game and. and the team that wins is the team that. makes the least amount of mistakes, not.

the team that makes the most plays. If. you watch, >> yeah, >> you know, it's it's the team that makes. the least amount of mistakes. You know, left tackle jumping off sides, a. receiver not breaking hot on a hot route. and it's interception. Uh, you know, uh, the quarterback not getting the right. protection, things that we're not going. to see that you need to check the box. every, you know, play when we're. evaluating our plays after the game. Like, just don't have those negative. plays. the team that has the least.

amount of those wins. >> Dude, it's crazy you say that because a. lot of the times in these big games, especially early on, you feel like you. got to be your greatest. You feel like. you got to make that extra that crazy. one-handed catch when no one like. expects you to make the play. But it's. really just those little things that, you know, you're getting that cut off. block on the backside. So if that thing, you know, peels back to you, you know, so you can get Exactly. just so you can. get a few yards and get downhill and now.

you're not playing behind the sticks and. things like that. It's it's such a easy. concept to like talk about, but when. you're in it, man, you want to be your. best and you want to be the [ __ ] one. that like catapults the the guys to the. to the next game or to the to the to the. win. And it's like, man, if you just go. out there and and focus on doing those. little things, the jobs, those those big. plays when the instincts are are are. when you're in it and those big plays. need to be made, you're you'll make them. by just like being you, you know? You.

don't got to be an extra version of. yourself. So, I'm I'm so with you on. that, man. >> Absolutely. >> And then, you know, like and and it. sounds easy. Oh, hey, just do but the. distractions and and the, you know, the. pre uh game ceremonies and the 28 minute. halftime, there's so many different. variables that make it so much harder. than a regular game. Yes. >> You know what I mean? So that lull, it's. not going to be a sprint. This thing's. not going to happen after, you know, you.

you stop, you hold the team three and. out, you go and score, oh, this game's. over, you know. No, this thing is going. to be a marathon. They're they're always. close more than they're not, >> right? >> Uh which they can get to not being. close. They can be a blowout, but more. than not, it's it's it's usually a close. game. >> Have you talked to Braves at all? >> Yeah, I I I talked to Braves week three. when they lost to this Who' they lose. to? Was it the Raiders or No, no, it was. the Saints maybe. I I had the Hall of.

Fame induction. Braves came to the. ceremony and that was like one of the. last times they lost. But yeah, we. talked a little bit. He kind of busted. my balls, said I went a little long on. my Hall of Fame speech and told me, you. know, he goes, Jules, you know, hey, just to give you a reminder, halftime, I. know you're going to speak to the crowd. and everything. Just remember, it's 12. minutes. All right, but it's 12 minutes. in the regular season. >> What a guy. You missed you missed him by. like one year, right, in terms of. playing uh playing.

>> Yeah, I missed him by one year. He got. signed to the Chiefs. I got drafted in. But uh we used to go to the Kentucky. Derby together and uh we had so much. crossover that you know I feel like I. played with them and the stories about. Braves lived on past Braves just in the. locker room. >> I can only imagine. Dude, if you got a. good one, please share, man. I He's a. Northeast Ohio guy. So watching Ves at. Ohio State and then obviously at the. Patriots is like [ __ ] I feel like.

he's like a part of my family for some. reason. It was always like, "Hey, you. know, Rabes would have killed you for. getting on this taping table as a rookie. uh before this guy." Like little things. like that. And then you always heard, you know, coach would reference, other. coaches would reference, oh, you know, we're able to ate that up on scout team. or or you know, this guy was one of the. smartest football players that we we've. ever seen. And when you're hearing that. from, you know, the coaches that we had.

that I think, you know, are pretty dang. good. >> Yeah. >> You know, they if they're going to carry. a guy's name, he must have been doing. something right. Him and Rodney. Harrison. They always talked about. Rodney. They talked about a lot of those. former guys, but uh you know, they. always talked about Braves in a in a in. a great fashion. And it's been really. cool to see him. He's always been a stud. though. Like it's not like, oh, this is. his first time doing good things. He was. great with Tennessee. he was, you know, when he went to Ohio State as a as a as. a younger coach and he's done great. things, anything he's done. So, it's.

been really cool to see. Oh, >> yeah. I was going to ask you, what do. you what do you think has enabled him to. have so much success so quickly in New. England? Like, in one year to be in the. Super Bowl to turn it around from what. it's been the last couple years. I It's. It's [ __ ] amazing. Like, truly. pretty. >> It is. I think it's a combination of. things. I think uh RKK, Mr. draft making. the right call, getting the right people. in the building at the right time. I. think it's the relationship between. Elliot Wolf, Stretch, Vel, whoever's.

getting the players in. Uh they've hit. on a lot of their free agents. Milt. Williams been lights out. Spelain's been. lights out. Uh Diggs in the offensive. side's brought a new attitude to that. receiver room. And and then they have 11. rookies that they've drafted on the. team. So, you know, they've been hitting. on guys they've brought in, guys they've. drafted, and Drake May having Josh. McDaniels this year, I think, has been. huge. So, I I think it's a combination.

of like the perfect storm of things. happening and things can happen that. quick in this league because, you know, it's built on parody and the crappiest. team is not as crappy as you think in. this league. like they're like three. players, five players away, which can be. hit in a draft or through free agency, however your team is built. So, I think. it's the combination of things. >> Love it. Love it. >> And Brad's a great coach, too. You know, [ __ ]. >> Oh, yeah. We got Cooper Cup coming on. here after you, brother, to represent. the Seattle side. Two of the best wide.

receivers ever to play in the Super. Bowl, man. Cooper's coming back for his. second run at it. You got anything you. want to say to Cooper? Have anything uh. have any questions for him? >> Uh, ask him. I've I've been making my. French press coffee a little weird. How. many Just ask him what's the weight on. how much I got to put in cuz he's a big. coffee guy. He's did his dodo thing over. here once. You know, he gave me a coffee. machine. You know, we know he's the. triple crown winner. We know he's still. balling in the Super Bowl and he's still. balling at a high level at a high age.

But I just want to know about the. coffee. How's how do I get my my French. press right? >> Coffee is an underrated part about. having success in the league, too. Whenever I get a young guy and he's not. drinking coffee, I'm like, "Dude, do you. not like taking legal performance. enhancers? Why the [ __ ] would you not. drink coffee? What are you doing, man? >> I didn't drink coffee until I got in the. league.". >> That's right. >> And then I started chewing. I started. drinking coffee. I mean, how do you get. through these meetings? >> That's right. That's right. >> People don't realize there's there's. this is like you have to go to school.

before you get to just play football. It's like you're in class all day long. >> Yeah. It's so [ __ ] good. All right. We got about the French press, man. I'm. actually curious about this one. >> Is there anything you would say the. Patriots win if they do X? >> They get the ball off uh Sam Darnold. >> Okay. >> Patriots win if they can get the ball. off Sam Darnold and and win that. turnover margin. >> Yeah. Uh I I really think if you get it. to a nitty-gritty game, you have Milton. Williams in the middle, Bar on the other.

in the middle together getting pressure. in the middle of the pocket and getting. a takeaway from that explosive offense. Like I think and they got to take. advantage of it. I think they they have. a that's their best opportunity of of of. winning because like I think Seattle, if. you look at them, they're a. complimentary football team. We've. talked about all year all phases, special teams, offense, defense. you know, but when they've gotten to. hairy nitty-gritty games with teams, you know, they've been able to like beat.

them with all their units. I don't think. they could do that with the Patriots. They're pretty dang good on all three. units, too. So, I think when they get. into a hairy game with a team that can. nullify him on special teams and not. give them an explosion play or maybe hit. them with a explosion play with Marcus. Jones at punt return or kickoff, like I. think those are the types of teams that. they struggle with because then it. presses on to Darnold to making a play. They got to get more in the drop back. They can't play on schedule with their.

run game always. So getting the ball off. Sam, getting that pressure in the middle. of the pocket, I think they it'll give. them their best chance to win. >> Makes sense, Sam. >> I love all the sense in the world. >> Interior pressure. If you look at like. all the Super Bowl teams that have won. over the last few years, I mean, you. look at dominant DTackles and. controlling the middle of that freaking. line of scrimmage and it disrupts the. run game and then it pressures the. quarterback. Everybody wants to talk. about edge pressure. There's something. about that interior pressure and Milton. Williams and Barmer are freaking balling.

right now. Both of them. >> Well, especially as a pocket passer, you. know. You know, Sam, he's athletic. Don't you know he's but he likes to do. everything behind that center at eight, seven yards, wherever that spot is for. him. >> and he likes to deliver the ball on off. that play action. They do a great job. moving it. But, you know, Sam go he he. he don't like that middle pressure. If. you watch, whenever he's struggled, it's. because of that pressure right in his. face cuz it it's hard to dissect that. defense. >> Absolutely. Gets him a little bit off. schedule, gets him off target, and then.

all a sudden he'll still throw it up. there. All right, let's hit him with. this last thing, dude. We got to know. you're welcome to welcome to the Super. Bowl moment. Out of out of all the all. the Super Bowls you went to, man, what. was the one moment that uh that hit you. that you could remember that was just. like, man, that was I'm in it, man. I I. really think there's two for me from my. first one. We lost against uh the New. York Giants in 2011 and uh that was. still early. That was uh like still kind.

of almost preone still getting into the. phone age. >> Uhhuh. >> And uh. >> the phone age. >> that first kickoff when you used to run. in these Super Bowls, all you would see. is just flashes. >> Yes. And I was an R2 and you'd run and I. just remember seeing all the flashes on. kickoff. >> and I remember seeing those flashes. >> Cinematic, dude. That's crazy. >> Yeah, it's super. I I remember that. And. and the national anthem, you know, when. the national anthem's going, you see. whoever who who's singing it, some.

whatever celebrities there, you know, you you start to feel the environment of. how big this is. I think those two. things were like my welcome to the Super. Bowl moment. by the time, you know, we. got there in 14 again and and then 16, you know, then I had I kind of I kind of. had a a feel for it. But that first. time, you know, it's like, holy smokes, >> dude. >> What are we doing here, Batman? >> Dude, pre phone and pre-kickoff like. change like the kickoff when it was the. [ __ ] kickoff. You know what I mean?

>> Dude, we're [ __ ]. char. >> I'm going to go bust a wedge. >> That's right. That's [ __ ]. >> And the moment you said national anthem, I started getting goosebumps because. that is and still even like when I'm at. a regular game, every time I hear the. national anthem, that kind of is like. for some reason a very visceral moment. for me. And I don't think it's just. about the national anthem. It's. something about like that it's about to. happen. Like that's always the trigger. in our heads for. >> timing. Yes. And at the Super Bowl, it. just is at another level every single.

time. That's one of my favorite moments. when they're videotaping everybody and. you see guys just like so emotional like. just like caged dogs ready to get out. there and man put you right back into it. for sure. >> It really does man. >> The national anthem anytime you watch it. like especially in the big games, you. know, you got the jets flying over, got. the military there, >> the fans are going, you know what I. mean? And you got, you know, someone's. crying, you know, that's that's that because. that, like you said, it's ripe. It's.

calm before the storm. It's about to. It's about to go down. And it's been. like that since we were kids. Oh, yeah. Right after the national anthem. We're. going and we're playing ball button, everybody. [ __ ] FIRE UP, MAN. >> I'M fired up for the Super Bowl, baby. I. can't wait. Pats Seahawks, we appreciate. you hopping on, Jules. You're the man, brother. >> No problem, guys. Thanks for having me. >> Thank you to Julian Edelman. Ednet did. not disappoint. >> Jules is the man, dude. >> But we do have one more guest. We do. We've heard from the Patriots side in.

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PLEASE WELCOME COOPER CUP. >> That's awesome. Most proud I am is that. you rounded up from 61 to 6'2. That was. the best part of the whole thing right. there. I'll take that. >> Do it. I'm the same way. I'm 63. >> That's all the things. Yeah, let's go. 62. I'll take it. >> That combine will get you, man. They go. down to the eighth of an inch. It's not. fair. I was 6'5 my whole life and at the. combine I'm 6'4 and 78. I'm like you. [ __ ] couldn't give me one more.

age in. >> You learn a lot at the combine man. You. learn a lot even about yourself. Even. about yourself like oh I had no idea I. was that short. That's crazy. >> I'm that slow. I thought I ran a 47. I. didn't know I was running a. >> Hey, you're telling me. You're telling. me. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Wanted to jump it off, man. Congrats on the year so far, man. NFC. champs. Uh you know how to do this thing. though, man. Obviously, you have. literally the best run in playoff. history at the wide receiver position,

man. In terms of the stats and and. touchdowns and and going out there and. actually getting the [ __ ] dub in in. the big game, man. How does it feel to. get back to the Super Bowl? >> Yeah, it's pretty sweet. Um I you just. don't take these things for granted. I. mean, we've all been lucky enough to be. on parts of teams that get to the show. and, you know, make it happen, get the. chance to to play in the big one. And, um, I've also been a part of, we've all. been part of really good teams where. like, man, the belief is that you're.

there like like you're like, you're. you're going through training camp. You're like, we're going to the Super. Bowl. Like, we know the work like we. have everything it takes to get there. and and you don't and you fall short. And so, um, to be in this place, to be. able to, you know, week in, week out, find a way to get wins and get here, uh, it's a special thing. >> How has it been with the new team? Obviously, you know, this is not a lot. of people from the outside saw it. coming. I'm sure you guys seeing it from. your perspective, had high expectations. What's it what's the team camaraderie. been like all year, you know, how has it. been being in Seattle? >> It's been I mean, obviously it was a new.

experience uh coming over here with the. new team and uh all that, but I mean. there was a there was a belief early on. like you said the I mean it was exactly. what Mike McDonald said up there on that. stage. You know, we did not care. You. know, it was like this whole thing like. all the narratives, all this other stuff. like no, we're just going about our. business. We're going to handle our. stuff. And it was it was that it was. that from day one from OTAAS on it's. like man, we're just going to do what we. do and get better and better and better. And it wasn't like this. This isn't one.

of those teams that I would have said. day one like, "Oh yeah, we got all the. pieces together to go make this thing. happen." It was truly like a a build, a. slow build of like, "Hey, this is coming. together and jelling and the guys are. coming together, the belief in one. another, the camaraderie of the just the. people, the energy of the locker room is. is special. >> You could feel the energy in the [ __ ]. preeason, Coop. I remember playing you. guys in the preseason, dude. I was like. I was sitting there on the on the. sideline that second half watching.

watching my guys try and battle your. guys' like kind of like second and third. string guys and I'm sitting I'm just. like this team has the [ __ ] juice. like these guys love playing the game of. football and they do and they do it. together and it wasn't just the starters. it wasn't just the guys after that it. was all the way through the end of the. game man and when you see guys loving to. play the game together like that man. having having that energy having that. excitement ment is the start of it and. then from there you you obviously have. great coaches, great leaders. Um, you.

got to you got to talk to us about about. a guy named Sam Darnold. How fun has it. been [ __ ] seeing that guy grow into. the the to the Super Bowl quarterback. that he is today? >> Ginger C. >> Ginger C. I was waiting for it. I was. waiting for it. >> He's been the man. Uh he I mean honestly. quarterbacks in general, they are on the. highest pedestal. like you do not have a. whole lot of time to prove yourself. before you get counted out. And for Sam. Darnold to do what he did going through.

this time with the Jets, with Carolina, all the scarring that happens, that's. like, man, everything that's put on you. that's saying you you aren't this. anymore, like you're not that guy. For. him to push through all those things, to. go to San Francisco to learn his stuff. there, to be able to like take in all. this the Shanahan like, man, this is I I. can do this system. I believe in this. what how this is done, how this. quarterback, how quarterbacks are asked. to play this game. To go and do it for. KOC in Minnesota and then to come over. here and just ball out like this. I.

mean, it's just incredible. It like it's. not talked about enough how special and. how difficult that is for quarterbacks. to do. It's it is not an easy thing. And. he's he's kind of, you know, he's gone. against, you know, common belief about. quarterbacks and how how it works, you. know. So, it's it's just special. >> I could not agree more, man. And like. listen, I get keep getting asked like. who are you rooting for in the game and. like I I don't really have a horse in. the race. Like I like storylines on both. sides, but it's hard to not want this to.

happen for Sam. It really is. Cuz I. think anybody that's been in the league. and struggled through it yourself and. had to persevere through ups and downs, like it is very difficult, especially. once that narrative throughout the. league has already been set. It's hard. to get that next opportunity. >> Exactly. And for him to be able to do. this multiple times, have to reaffirm. himself, and to have the year he's had. on a special team right now, like it's. it's hard not to root for the Ginger Cuz. man. >> Ginger C. >> What's What's the better nickname,

Ginger Cuz or Buddy? >> Oh, come on now. >> Come on now. >> Maybe Maybe he feels a different way. about it, but. >> don't Won't call Don't call me buddy. Don't call me buddy. >> Don't call you buddy. I was, you know, I I got a little ginger. in the beer. If they were calling me. ginger cuz I'm like, I'll take ginger. cuz don't call me buddy. You call me. ginger cuz I'm checking out. Look, I'm. at I'm at a gas station getting. something. You call me Ginger cuz that's. fine. I'm good. Don't Don't call me.

buddy. >> Don't call me buddy. >> I'm pretty sure we had uh had our guy. Matt Stafford on here talking about how. you're attending early QB meetings. You. still you still in the QB room? >> I'm still in the QB room. They can't get. me out of there, man. It's my room now. Took over. >> I love it, man. >> Let me ask you this, and I think I. already know the answer, but just for. like people watching, why do you attend. the QB meetings? What does a receiver. get out of going to the QB meetings? >> Yeah. Well, I mean, for me, it's a QB. perspective. I want to hear I one, I. want to be in the I want to be watching. the film with the quarterback when he's.

taking his notes, when he's kind of. diagnos, okay, the these are the things. that I'm seeing. These are the things. that even like give me concern, you. know, that maybe the coach, it's not. from the coach's, it's for from the. quarterback's perspective. This is. concerning to me. >> and maybe he's like has a thought about. how it wants how he would want to attack. or how he what his answers he want what. answer he wants that to be. You know, I. get to be in there. I get to be at the. at the genesis of it all. >> But then the other part of it is to be. in the meetings themselves because now.

like in the receiver room, they're not. going to touch on the the progression of. a quarterback. You know what I Like. they're not saying, "Hey, this is one. high, two high this way." It's like, "No, we're running a bench route." You. know what I mean? And so I want to know. on the backside if I'm running a China. route on the back side, well, how much. time do I have? Am I first in the. progression? Am I fourth in the. progression? Because that really changes. how I'm going to run my route and when I. can be ready when the quarterback. expects me to be ready for the ball. You. know what I mean? >> I love this. Did you ever play a little. quarterback? >> So my dad was a quarterback.

>> So my Yeah. So my dad was a quarterback. in the NFL for a couple years. Um he. backed up he was third string to Troy. Aman and then Jason Garrett actually. beat out my dad. >> uh for the third spot with the with the. Cowboys. >> Um so so my dad. >> Yes. So I learned receiver. >> from my dad a quarterback. So like when. I run a route I wasn't getting told what. to do as a receiver. I was getting told. no you can't do that because the. quarterback's not going to like that. You know what I mean? >> So So he was he was on me early. He was.

on me early about like sticking my foot. in the ground like no you have to like. you have to indicate your indicator is. not good enough. >> sign language man you don't. >> that's it that's it. So. >> indicator what's. >> we're talking in code to this [ __ ]. fat boy. Yeah. >> I don't know [ __ ] about an indicator. What's this indicator? >> I got to use my body to communicate to. the quarterback, right? And I want to. like he's going to see me 20 yards away. and when I make a move or do something, I'm going to do something that's. indicating I'm breaking down and I'm. going to be in the spot that you're. expecting me to go, right? Cuz he's.

going to be letting the ball go when my. back's to him. So, he needs to know. like, man, hey, it's happening now. You. know, I need to be able putting the foot. my foot in the ground when I'm breaking. in or out and how I'm rolling. So, I. can't just like you can't just ooze into. like a a deep out route. You got to like. put your foot in the ground like I'm. going now. You know what I So he knows. that he's home. >> Coupe, I think, and that's so good. That. was a great way to describing it. I. think what you do that's different from. others is that you're giving those. indicators to the quarterback, but you. never give those indicators to the. defense. And that's so hard because the.

defense is watching those indicators. >> And I do a whole lot of [ __ ] to make. up for my speed. like I'm I'm doing. skips and and things with my shoulders. and things, you know, I'm doing all this. [ __ ] just to get this much separation. where you actually have the speed and. you have the shoulder lean and you give. none of those indicators as well as like. when you want to really get open on a. double move and things like that, but. you're giving the defense no indicators. that you're going to be going one way or. the other. And that that keeps the.

timing of these routes so true. And it's. why you always been mirrored up with. your quarterback so well, man. Yeah, I. appreciate it. Yeah, try to do it. Try. to do it as uh you know, I I'm like I. ran a 46, right? So, like I got to do. the hop and skip and the I got to do the. little jack now. I got to do a little. bit of this. You know what I mean? >> Oh, you got it all. You got it all in in. the bag. But I'm I'm a lot of those. deeper routes. You don't have all the. you don't have all that ability to. really get into that kind of stuff. So, that's what I.

>> You don't have the time. Exactly. Exactly. I get it. Well, I was just. going to ask like listen, you were in. the Rams for a very long time with one. head coach. What's it been like having a. new head coach and Mike McDonald, right? Like is it been different being offense. versus defense? Like how's that been for. you. >> offensively? If you don't have a great. day, it's okay cuz the coach is going to. be so pumped at how good a practice. went. I mean, you know how it goes. It's like it's. like, "Oh, hey, defense had a great day. today. It doesn't matter what the.

offense did." Hey, bring it up, boys. This is a great day. Where before it didn't matter like it. didn't matter how what the energy was of. practice if the offense wasn't on it. It. was a terrible day. It getting crushed. getting absolutely crushed. So, that's. nice being on the other end of that that. side of things. But honestly, those two. guys, like Sean and Mike, both on two. separate ends with terms of the offense. and the defense, but they are they are.

doing it at the highest level of those. two sides. And so, it's cool. It's cool. to see it. And I like to sit in there. with Mike and I I used to sit in with. Sean and be able to talk through stuff. and be able to talk like, you know, the. 500 600 level football stuff. And now. I'd sit in there and and I used I could. like, you know, talk. I'm like, "Yeah, I. can I can live at this place and like. communicate." And you start talking to. Mike. You're like, "Oh, I don't know. what I'm talking about." Like, this is. this defense. Like, defense is a whole. another world that, you know, maybe you. don't you think that you understand what.

you're doing offensively when you're. attacking stuff, but there's a whole. another world out there that you don't. understand and the depth of it, you. know, and I'm reminded that over and. over again as I play this game. The. depth of detail that there is in the NFL. is it's it's an ocean. It just keeps. going, man. >> Yeah. And it's different the way it is. in different systems. Like cover three. is just like such a generic term for a. way that everybody thinks about what. that is, right? And how it's taught. versus like different formations and. clusters and what teams do specifically.

in their progressions and. >> how it changes week to week. >> No doubt. Yeah. >> You uh obviously played with Matthew. Stav for a long time now with Sam. Darnold. What are the differences. between those two guys in particular? >> You know, one's got red hair, one's got. gray hair. They I mean it's. >> it is great though being like Matthew. saying when he comes in it's like oh. I've seen that like any look oh I saw. that you know 2012 week four like they. they brought that same pressure it's. like okay this is you're ridiculous dude.

like. >> yeah that's crazy like you can't you. can't you can't compete with the. experience that he has because it's not. just the exper it's not just time it's. like it's memory it's like he has all. that stored in this database. He's like. an he's like an AI center and it's like. he's built into his brain and he just. like he's just like pulling these things. like dude knowing I can't keep up with. you. You're you're just rolling. And you. know for Sam Sam is so processed. It's. like man he's he's seen a lot. He's been.

in a lot of different situations. Um and. he carries that stuff with him well. But. a lot of it is his process and is. preparing through the week. It's like. man is just he's so on. Hey, I'm in here. until 7 o'clock. at 7:00, you know, I'm. moving on to my next thing and I'm on. it. He's just boom, like a robot on on. his stuff. So, you know, when he gets. there, when he gets to the game on. Sunday, it's like, man, he's just gone. through this. He's so prepared for that. moment to step out there and play or. he's almost over. It's like you don't. have to poop every morning. You know.

what I mean? Like, like you can do for. it, man. >> Ready? >> I love it, man. Well, it I'm sure it was. uh it was pretty weird lining up against. your former teammate or Yeah. former. teammates and former team. Um, but you. were in quotes saying, "It was cool that. we had to go through the Rams. The. script writers did a good job with that. one." I'm glad you're you're a believer. in the script writers as well. >> They were uh they were definitely. writing the script for me and Jason to. go to the Super Bowl when we started. this new Heis podcast. >> Yeah, you remember the meetings. Yeah,

>> exactly. >> That was crazy, wasn't it? I mean, I and. like I said, I I've touched on this. before, but there's there's so many guys. in the like playing that game, you don't. want no one wants to make it about. themselves and what like, oh, it's my. story, you know, but like in my world, that was a crazy story for it to play. out. That was that was wild. >> Were you in uh those uh defensive. meetings letting him know about all of. McVeyy's tricks up his sleeve? And I've.

always wondered when a guy goes to the. other team. >> No, it it is it's hard. I mean, you. can't like Yeah, I know a lot of the. stuff that they do. I don't know if it's. changed, you know, but I can like sit. there and be like, "Okay, yeah, this. looks like I know that signal. I know. like what this maybe some of these like, you know, hurry up offense, what they're. doing." But how do you as a coach, how. do you tell the defense like, "Oh, hey, don't listen to what my call is. I need. you to listen to what they're doing.". And then, you know what I mean? They.

know you're and McVey knews you were. over there and like that could be a. possibility. So they're changing signals. and all of a sudden, you know, you can. get caught in a tough position. I just. had to ask. >> Exactly. Yeah. No, it just doesn't. It. just I just don't know that it really. works, you know? It's little I think. there's little there's little things. little pieces like hey this little. indicator maybe of something that's like. it's a broad thing like hey this might. indicate you know these kinds of plays. are coming versus being like oh this is. the exact play that's that's coming.

>> to put that in the back of somebody's. mind with everything else that you got. to deal with in the on the football. field. I feel like it's almost like a. crutch to be able to like have somebody. thinking that much about. >> all of it. So I'm I'm right there with. you. How has the Coupe chant been with. the 12th man instead of uh the Rams fans. this year? Is it Is it feel weird or is. it What do you How do you feel about it? >> It's been pretty solid. I tell you what, um it's been transformed. >> Lumen's crazy like playing in Lumen. It.

gets rowdy and I've been on the other. side of it. It's really similar though. to it used to be like I used to run onto. the field, you know, for part early on. and you get the booze. Now I run on I just get the C. feel like doesn't feel that difference. >> I kind of been here. I've kind of been. here before. >> That's great. >> You got another unbelievable wide. receiver in the wide receiver room with. you in Seattle right now. JSN is. absolutely taking this league by storm.

I think he's right now in terms of every. single route he's running. pound-for-pound. One of the best [ __ ]. wide receivers I've ever seen play this. damn game, man. He's he's so fun to. watch and he he has that ability to just. do it with ease. Similar to how similar. to how you are. He doesn't give a lot of. indicators on the deeper on the deeper. routes and he's always on time and then. his big play ability is through the. [ __ ] roof. Um. >> yeah. >> Did you coach him up at all? Did you. give him experience? Uh like how was it.

when you got in the wide receiver room. over there? >> Yeah, it was good. Um, you know, I. basically have built Jackson myself. >> I knew it. Let's go. I knew it. >> No, he Yeah, he was so I mean he was so. good when I got here like watching him. go through OTAAS like dude this dude's. special, you know, and and I don't think. like you never know going into a season, you know, statistically what the. production is going to be like. what are. we going to be like as an offense, you.

know, that that dictates a lot of it as. well? But he's just over and over again. made the plays. Like when the. opportunities come, we don't throw the. ball like we're not super high up on the. list in terms of how often we're. throwing the ball, but when we do and. when the opportunity comes his way, he's. making the play. You know what I mean? And I think to do that, you got to be. consistently getting open, like. consistently open. You see, you don't. know when that time's going to be when. the ball is coming your way. And so, uh, he's just been special in that way. And. uh like you said, no indicators like.

he's so smooth. He plays at one level. the entire time. You know, he can he can. run a he can run a, you know, a a 15. yard outbreaking speed cut route and. never change. It's like the same level. the entire time and he just kind of. Porsche turns. >> Porsche turns to the sideline and and. comes plays negative coming out of his. out of his brakes. And um it's pretty. Yeah, it's really special seeing him see. him do his thing, >> dude. It's so smooth. like the. effortlessness of it and like yeah it's. it's fun to watch him just run. >> He's similar to I mean you played with.

uh with Devonte Smith. >> Devonte's I was about to say they're. very similar in the way they move. >> Super smooth runner but you know Jax is. built a little more like a danger like a. running back when you see him a. >> little bit stockier. Got some girth to. him. >> You got a little more Yeah, you got a. little more girthiness to him. >> He's he seems like a great dude, man. And I love the combo you guys had. But I. got I got to ask you about my guy AJ. Barner in the tight end room, man. >> Northeast Ohio ball player, baby.

Northeast Ohio ball player. He I got I. got a chance to say what's up to him at. at tight end, man. And I outside of like. the onfield stuff and him really like. being a big part of this offense in the. in the run game and pass game, man. His. energy, his swagger as a as as a young. cat in the league, man. I [ __ ] love. it, man. I'm so happy for that dude. But. you got to tell me. You got any good AJ. stories? >> I got some great AJ stories. I don't. know that I got. >> The problem is choosing one that he.

wouldn't be upset about me sharing. >> There you go. There you go. Well, what. was your first impression when your. first impression coming in? I'm sure you. knew him to an extent because he was. playing in Seattle. But. >> my first impression of him, I was like, "Wow, this is like a young Tyler. Higgby.". >> Dude, Higs is another guy, dude. [ __ ]. love Higs, man. Hig is one of my. all-time favorite human beings, teammates. Higgy's the man. He's a. freak. He's the man. I sit next to him. in the huddle for eight years. Like one. of my favorite dudes. And I'm like, this.

is this dude runs, routes, he blocks, he. does all the stuff, right? Is all the. stuff. As you get to know know more like. he's got a very unique energy about him. and how I mean he's like he's the dude. that's like he's the dude that's like. barking in the team meetings, you know? He's got like he's got something to say. every time. Some say and you know 90% of. the time it's awesome. >> 10% of the time you just kind of 10% of. the time you just kind of let it kind of. just you know go over your head.

for you. Yeah. >> Oh Barnyard. That's a banger right. there, man. I can't wait to see him in. the Super Bowl, man. I know he's going. to be turn. >> We had Julian Edelman on uh already. All. right. He had one question for you. All. right. >> Okay. >> Um he's having some problems with his. French press. doesn't know the right. ratio. >> What What do we got for him? What do we. got for him? >> He's He's hopeless. HE'S I TRIED. I. TRIED. >> I've already tried with him. I can't. I've already tried them. I I walked him. through it. The first time he showed me, he was making coffee. He's dang near I.

mean, he's dang near drinking his coffee. with just grounds all I mean, he's just. like he's chewing his coffee basically. >> He's got that Turkish coffee that's got. the grounds in it, right? >> Yeah. He's Exactly. He's he he's. drinking his coffee with a spoon. Listen, he's got you you have to measure. things. You can't just like throw it. together, right? It's ratios. You got to. have a feel. You got have a little bit. of detail. And for Julian Edelman, for. Julian Edelman, the most one of the most.

detailed receivers to just like throw. things together. Oh, it broke my heart. >> You wanted to see the attention to. detail. He He turned that [ __ ] off, man. >> Yeah. Yeah. Slow yourself down, Julian. Slow yourself down. Make yourself a nice. cup of Joe. Make it a nice little. process. We'll be good. >> Well, time out. Hold on. I want to get. the inside scoop though for myself. though. What is the ratio? What do What. do What is What is Coupe doing with this. coffee? >> Most French presses, the plunger won't. go all the way to the bottom, right? So,

the plunger will leave like Have you. made French press before? >> Yeah. >> Yes, I have. >> Okay. So, the French press won't plunge. all the way to the bottom. So if you. want to start see where that spot is and. just fill the grounds up to right where. that is right where that most of them. most of them will be pretty that'll be. pretty accurate. So you want start there. and then you go there and you fill up. the whole fill up your whole thing and. you press it. >> you know wait six wait 6 minutes or so. make sure your grind's good. You want a. nice coarse grind with French press. Don't want to be a super you don't want.

to be you know what I mean? And if you. get too too fine, you're going to have. the the if you're going to over extract, you're going to have the you're going to. have the grounds all coming up through. that plunger. >> You don't want to do that. You don't. want to make sense. >> Makes sense. >> Let's talk some more about this. What is. is French press the best method of. brewing? >> Well, what beans do you have? Right. Cuz. there's actual People don't know this. There's certain coffee beans that are. made for espresso. There's certain ones. for drip. There's certain beans with. their oil contents and things that like. >> Where are you getting your French press.

beans from? my French press beans. I'm I. I I honestly don't I'm getting from Dodo. is where I'm getting them from. >> There we go. You know it. >> I know. If we were down in Guatemala, you know. Yeah. The the Guatemal Gual is a good one. I. got We got some good ones from. Guatemala. It would do a good French. press. >> I've done French press. I've tried a. mocha master. I got a arrow press. grinders. I've tried the beans. I don't. I have not mastered the beans. I'm not. jacking the bean stock yet. >> Are you going to be in Santa Clara this. week? >> Oh yeah. We're up there, baby. Come by.

>> Perfect. Can I show you the grinder I got? >> This will show you how this this will. show you how novice I am. I'm going to. show you the grinder I bought. >> You're about to get this dude. You're. going to see the attention to detail of. a of a Pro Bowl center. >> This Yeah, this. >> this dude is This dude is there. He He. was the one that broke out the. directions as a kid for the Legos. instead of just putting them together. >> Yeah. I hope this brings a hammer. >> He's so He's been waiting to ask you. this forever. >> Yeah, this is great. I hope he just. brings a hammer. It's like I usually do.

this. I just I just hit the beans until. they look good and then I just dump them. into this cup. >> Grinder. I wanted to be on record. I. [ __ ] hate this goddamn indust. >> I need That's how you know it's about to. be a [ __ ] hammer. >> I'm ready to save the day. I need. Listen, you guys. You guys send me Send. me his address. I'm going to send him a. whole setup. It'll be it'll be so easy, >> dude. We're gonna send you two addresses.

because I need this, too. >> Yeah, you you let me know. Send me the. address. I'm gonna send you It's It's. going to do everything for you. It's. You're going to have You're going to be. able to measure out what you need. It's. going to grind them how you're supposed. to have them. It's going to do it all. going to do it all right. Cuz this is. People come over to our house all the. time and like, "Oh, this is so good. This is great. Like, so much better than. I make at my house." And it's like, "Yeah, cuz you're making it like a like. a cold. >> But you take this out OF THE WALL. OH, WHAT THE.

>> Looks like. >> What the [ __ ] is that? >> That looks like a Dell computer, dude. What the [ __ ] is that? >> I accidentally I bought a industrial. coffee grinder on accident. I thought I. was getting a home one and I got this. wrong. >> That's crazy. THAT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING. >> Goodness gracious. If it's a gun safe, that thing's crazy, >> dude. That's hilarious. That's the. biggest coffee grinder I've ever seen in. my life. >> When when that thing showed up, Kylie. was like, "What in the [ __ ] are you.

doing, man?". >> The entire house just stinks in the. morning. >> Coffee for the entire block. >> That's right. >> I was telling Trav, let me You got You. got Tell me where to send it. I'm going. to send you a whole setup. It's a whole. coffee setup. It's going to look nice. Your wife's going to love it. It's going. to set on the counter like, "Oh, this is. like this is good. This looks good. >> Perfect. >> It's going to make your coffee. I got I. got you set Have you always been a. coffee guy? You when did you start. getting on the coffee? Coffee is really. it's a performance enhancer in the. league. Like if you don't drink coffee, you're you're you're doing yourself a.

disservice. >> Yeah. You're not you're not trying if. you're not drinking some coffee. >> You don't come in here. If I don't see. you walking around with a cup of coffee, I'm like I'm questioning your commitment. to what we're doing. >> EXACTLY. >> When did you start it up though? >> Secretly, my mom would buy me coffee. like early middle middle school. My dad. hated it. Oh, my dad. My dad, >> he's been in the game for me. >> I've been in the game. I've been in the. game for a while. >> Are you a sweetener or you like the. taste of the beans? You don't want to.

You don't want to mess with the beans. >> Blacky black. Black. Just. >> You got to get the taste. You got to get. the taste. >> And go. What? What are you guys? Are you. I mean, >> I'm black all the way. I was about to. say I'm black. And for some reason, I. don't. >> I don't really like espresso as much as. I like actual coffee coffee. I will do. espresso. Like I'm I don't discriminate. especially after like a nice dinner all. in on the espresso. >> espresso martini. Hey now. >> But I there's something about like a.

>> a coffee that I just really enjoy. Yeah. >> The taste. >> It's a drip coffee. It's a nice. >> drip coffee. >> Yes, dude. I'm right there with you. I'm. I'm straight up. I like the coffee. straight. And then I like uh I'll go. back. We we have like five We have like. six flavors. from a Kansas City roasting uh company. that I'll go and get I'll switch it up. by the week. I'll go and get like a dark.

like roast and then I'll go back and get. like a nice hazelnut and it'll be it. like the taste of the beans will make it. feel like I have like a sweetener in. there or something but it like kind of. changes the notes. >> The the beans themselves have flavor. Oh. yeah, you know it. You know it, man. The. different the way they roast. Oh, it's. the [ __ ] best, man. >> Very interesting. >> We got one last question for you. >> All right. >> Do you have a welcome to the Super Bowl. moment? >> You saying like, "Wow, I can't believe. that I'm playing in the Super Bowl or.

like a the one where you get hit really. hard and you're like, "Oh, this is a. Super Bowl.". >> Either one you want to go with. Yeah. >> Ah, man. I don't know. I mean, cuz my. first Super Bowl I was on the sidelines, you know, I was I had a torn ACL in 2018. against uh when Julian Edelman won Super. Bowl MVP. >> And um. >> and so I think maybe my this is this. would be my welcome to Super Bowl. moment, standing on the sidelines and. feeling the. chaos on our sidelines when Bill Bich.

decided we're going 6-1 the entire game. Completely change the, you know, completely change your game plan. show. something you've never done before and. just show up in the Super Bowl saying. this is what we're going to do and we're. going to do it every single snap. That. was like, oh, this is this is the Super. Bowl. Like, this is this is a guys that. can make the guy that can sit there and. make that decision. You know what I. mean? >> It's insane to even think about. >> Belich has been in the news a lot. recently with everything and regardless. of any of that stuff, that was one of. the most masterful well done coaching.

jobs to be honest with you. And it. wasn't just 61. He would also. >> he was like waiting for the headset to. turn off so that Sean could check the. play in. Right. >> And then when it got checked, he would. move it to something else. That game was. wild to watch. >> It was crazy. He was doing you you've. seen like the miked up where he was. like, "Hey, where is he? Where is he?". He's he's watching Shawn. It's like, "Hey, we're going to show one thing.". >> Mike clicks off at 15 seconds on the. play clock and it's like boom. Okay, now. we're getting into what we're doing. because we were so much at the line of.

scrimmage that year. Sean really calling. things all the way up until the ball. snap essentially. Um yeah, you know that. that was that was insane. But I mean for. Bill to come out and we got. >> for his plan being I'm just going to. watch Sean and we're going to wait until. he calls it and I'm going to change it. >> and we're just going to do this thing. like we're putting six guys up on the. ball. We're going to knock out the mid. zone run game. >> Third down. Third down they still did. the Bill Bich. You know they they had. their Stefon Gilmore on Brand Cooks.

They doubled Robert Woods. Like they. still did the same thing that they they. always do. But that was that was a. baller move by uh by old uh old William. Bichc. >> William Bich. >> Slick Willie. >> I I lied. I got one more question. What. do you think uh what does Seattle need. to do to win this game, brother? What. what are the keys to victory for you. guys? You think. >> we've said this over and over again, and. it's it's it's clich. It's cliche. You. know what what we say? >> Don't turn the ball over the ball. What. do you do?

>> But I do think it comes down to us. It's. like, hey, be us. Be be the people that. we've been all the way through this. thing. It's been our process. And it's. been like it's kind of a joke now, I. guess. But, you know, Mike gets up there. and he for a team meeting and you want. he wants to have some words for us and. you want to be like, "Man, bring some. like juice or something." It's like, "No, no, no. We're going to go out there. and be us." Like, that's our thing. That. is what we do. We go out there and we. run through people's faces. We're going. to run the ball. We're going to pass the. ball. Our defense is going to run and.

hit. I just this is this is what we do. and it's why we are in this position. right now. And so we're not going to. change that. We're we're going to go out. there and do the things that we've done. to get us to this place. And that's all. you can do. That's all you can do. anyways. So we can talk about all we. want, but. >> they ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE. >> Coup man, you're the [ __ ] man. I. can't wait to catch you out there and uh. talk some French press, dog. But uh. >> wishing you the best, man. going to go. out there and get you another one, brother. >> Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. Thank.

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>> Oh, man. Who doesn't like a nice. organized app for everything you need. documented? Uh, all right. Who we got. here? Stamp of the week. Snape of the. week. Snape of the week. What is this? Punch. Somebody punched their hair off. >> You didn't check out this clip. Watch. this one. This guy was wearing the toupe. uppercut. So vicious it knocks his hair. off. >> Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. What do you ask for? How did he. did he ask for that? You just go into. the barber shop and ask them if they got.

any toupes. >> I don't know where you get the toupe. from or how it's adhered down or if the. barber shop. I don't know a lot of those. details. >> This second picture is crazy. I think he. won the fight though. >> Did he win? >> Yeah, he I think they they later threw. it into the crowd and I think he won the. fight. >> I mean, he was a good sport about it. He. definitely was not too nervous or shy. about it. He was living it up after. that. Kind of dancing around. Could you. imagine catching that, >> dude? No. I can't imagine getting a Dupe. either, but that shit's [ __ ].

hilarious. >> Make a nice coaster. koozie. >> Yeah. Got some great nominees here. We. have uh Philadelphia Phantoms. Kai and I. went to the Unrivaled game in. Philadelphia. And quick shout out to. these guys. They broke a record for the. most regular season pro women's. basketball game attendance of all time. It was 21,49. It was packed packed in. the rafters. This unrivaled thing is. awesome. They do a great job. The. production quality was fantastic. A lot. of people were geared up for women's.

basketball. It was a really cool event. What else have we got? Rochester. Nighthawks goalie Ri Ryland Hartley uh. for stamping Vancouver Warriors. defensive Steph Charban Charbano Shanu. >> Char. indoor lacrosse. >> dude it's funny how big the goalies are. in indoor lacrosse like you just got all. this P. >> no. >> oh my gosh. >> that's a defenseless receiver right.

there that's what I like to. Yeah, the brawl afterwards. >> You I want Come here. >> I don't know what that guy's mad about. >> There's a [ __ ] There's a [ __ ] few. brawls going on right now. >> What are they mad at the go? I don't get. why they're mad at the goalies. That was. a great clean hit. That's all I saw. >> Are you allowed to do that in lacrosse? >> I mean, you're allowed to do it in. lacrosse. Yeah, YOU CAN DO SOME. LACROSSE. >> RIGHT. HE DOESN'T EVEN HIT HIM IN THE. HEAD, DUDE. He didn't even hit him in. the head. He hits him right in the. chest. >> Right in the chest. is right in the.

chin. >> That is clean. I don't care what anybody. says. >> Right over the chin. I love it. I'm here. for it, dude. I'm here for it. You can't. throw You can't throw over the middle. late, dude. That's hilarious, man. >> Electric. >> I'm about to go to some indoor lacrosse. if that's what they got going in indoor. lacrosse. [ __ ] yeah. >> We also got Iowa lineman Jennings Dunker. for bringing the mullet back to the. senior bowl. Do you see this freaking. beauty? Check out this beauty. Pull. this. >> Somebody's going to get a [ __ ] stud. I don't know if he's any good at playing.

football, man. But this dude, >> I mean, just look at it. The hair, the. mustache, the knee braces. >> He does look like a Clyde snail. That's. hilarious. >> Unbelievable. >> He's a majestic man right there. >> If you were going to design an offensive. lineman in a laboratory, this is what he. would look like. I mean, look at this. guy. >> This is hilarious. How many beers a day. do you think this guy drinks? >> I don't know. He's He's probably by the. case. He doesn't even count him by the. beer. Dude, I this just give me an idea.

though. They I don't think they should. You know how they do best in show for. like dogs where they like trot them out. and they do it for like horses, too. Oh. [ __ ]. >> Are you all right, Trip? >> We're good. >> You You good? [ __ ]. >> [ __ ]. >> Taylor's going to kill me. The best in show got me. >> Best in show for the dogs. Like they I.

think best show offensive line. Yeah. >> Trim their stuff out. >> Their quarterback's walking them around. on a leash and they [ __ ] put them up. on the table. >> You got a guy measuring their hands and. their belly. >> We can't be We can't be putting guys on. leashes. But I I hear you. >> Fair enough. No leashes. But you get. them up on the stage. You got a guy. measuring their like get in their stance. and they like to see if their ass is in. the right. I don't know, man.

>> All I need is the prance. Just prance. around. I want to see I want to see how. this guy prances. >> He's a prancer. He It's like a It's like. the the what's the at the county fair. they got like the what is that called. when you got like the best pig? The. biggest pig at the show like prize pig. right there won the whole county fair. What are those called? You know what I. mean? >> [ __ ] I don't know. >> Can I get some help here? Somebody help. Jason. >> Go like a like a stock show is what you. want to do. >> Yeah, but like the prize pig. What? How's it? It's just.

>> I don't know if this bit's gonna end. well for us. >> Did you guys know that he was also a. Iowa meat day hay bale champion toss. winner? >> This is all I mean between the. >> Did we know? No. But does does it say. look at him? Look at that guy. >> This should be at the combine. Dude, I'm. telling you, we just need to create our. own version of this offensive lineman. >> The new heights offensive line combine. >> Yes. No, it's not a combine. You're. misjudging this. This is not a combine. >> Okay. What is it, Jason? Explain. What.

is it? >> It's just an offensive line beauty. pageant contest, but it's not. It's. called something different. I don't. know. It's. >> This guy cut the arms and legs off his. shirts and shorts and just said, "Fuck. it. I'm going to go throw the [ __ ] out. of this hay.". >> I've never seen offensive linemen like. exude out of somebody's skin as much as. I've seen. AH, >> EVEN THE [ __ ] NAME. Jennings Dunker. Are you [ __ ] KIDDING ME? >> THE [ __ ]. >> We're moving that kid's draft stock way. up just in this episode alone. >> I mean, it's just like it's like a.

character in a movie. Like, this isn't a. But it's real life. >> This is. >> He's got the shoulder strap on to hold. his AC joint in place. I mean, what the. [ __ ] are we looking I really like this. idea of an offensive lineman like just. like being essentially a beauty contest. of offensive line. Yeah, I don't need to. know how fast this guy runs. I want to. see how smooth he runs. Just do a lap. Just do a lap. >> I want to see how smooth he walks in in. prances. That's what I want to see. Let's the elegance of this guy. Shout. out to Dunker. Bald guys. How about this.

nominee since Robert Salah joined the. Titans? He has made five additional. coaching hires. The one caveat is that. you must be bald. Look at this thing. >> He's got nothing but bald, guys. I mean, I've seen I've seen all the hair go in. uh in in Kansas City's office. I mean, >> yeah, >> dude. Guys are Yeah, guys are dropping. like flies, man. >> Stressful job. Stress job. >> I think it's stress. It's just long. hours, man. Long hours means you're not. getting much sleep, which means, you.

know, and also this could be by choice. Guys could just be like, you know what? >> I don't want to [ __ ] deal with this. goddamn hair. I tell you what, I'd hate. to be in the stands on a sunny day. between all the helmets and bald heads. That light is going to be reflecting. You're going to be blinding. >> [ __ ]. >> Jesus Christ. >> A damn when you put Vaseline baby oil on. this [ __ ] Jesus. >> All right, I'm I'm giving the the nom. I'm giving my stamp of the week to. Dunker just cuz I don't even I mean, how. do you not give it to just such a. beauty? >> Yeah, I'll give it I'll give it to my. guy [ __ ] lost his toup pay Gerald.

Gerald Miller and still won the fight, baby. my boy Jer. >> How about how do we know he won the. fight? I feel like you're just randomly. saying that there's been nothing. >> He did win. He did win. He did win. Confirmed. >> And uh before we get out of stamp of the. week, we have an honorable Stamp of the. Week. >> We talked about this a little bit. earlier, Jason, you want to do the. honors? >> We love the kids here at uh New Heights. That's right. We're always thinking. about how uh we could take this show to. new heights. We decided to bring on. somebody who had one of the greatest. viral moments of all time after the.

Eagles were eliminated this year in the. playoffs. 92ers, please welcome Sam. Salvo. Let's take a look at this clip. For those of you that aren't aware, this. kid has a future in the making. He I. mean, he's gonna be on ESPN one day. He's gonna have his own show. >> Who even thinks of this stuff? >> Yes. This was a huge let down. This was. my Christmas present and I got a loss. >> Oh no. >> Oh no. >> Yeah, probably. I'm feeling uh two of. two things. A, I want AJ Brown packing. his bag somewhere else that is not here.

I love you, AJ, BUT LIKE YOU CAN'T YOU. CAN'T MAKE THOSE DROPS IN THAT GAME. And. I also want Kevin Patula flipping. burgers at like the local McDonald's or. something. I don't care. >> Why do you say that? >> Whenever he's an offensive coordinator, it's like he's flipping burgers. One. side he's cooking, one half he's. cooking, and the other half is. completely raw. >> Dude, I just amazing comments from a. child. Philadelphia just come out. sounding like GMs. Do they just. it's how they're born? It's just in it's.

something in like the water when they. grow when they they're born that as soon. as they hit age like eight, they know. how to talk like adults. Pack your bags. is something they find out when they're. like 3 years old. Like that's what you. just tell Eagles players when they when. they don't play their best. >> Yeah. Mom's been listening to WIP Sports. Take while. child's been in the womb the whole time. >> He's just catching the radio waves. So. they just come out with hot takes and. [ __ ] on people. Yeah. No, it's it's.

it's ingrained in Philadelphia for sure. >> That kid reminds me of a gentleman named. Patrick Bacon. >> Oh, dude. That is He's remarkably like. maturely grown up in the way he's. talking, which is what makes the whole. thing. >> It's so funny. >> I want AJ Brown packing his bags. I want. >> I want Let me tell you how I feel about. the birds right now. Two things. I'm. just like, what? >> I got a feeling this kid's dad has been. regurgit that he's regurgitating a lot. of things. He's been hearing.

frustrations from his dad on the. drive-in to school every morning for the. last 6 months. THIS [ __ ] GUY. WELL, you're in luck, 92enters, because we got Sam coming on. the show. That's right, Samo. That is. who the child is in that video. And. we're going to get his take on the new. Eagles offensive coordinator hire Shawn. Manion. We felt like let's see uh what. his opinion is on this. >> Yeah. Let's see how he see if he's. flipping burgers, too. >> Sam, welcome to the show. >> Hey, what's up? >> Flipping patties like the Eagles are.

flipping offensive coordinators, man. Jesus. >> Got this spatula for a microphone. All. right. He's not holding back. Sam, I got. to know what what were your uh. impressions of your viral moment of your. video? What did you think? Then what. what did everybody tell you at school? >> Um kids at school went crazy. Like kids. I don't even know. Like they just came. up for no [ __ ] reason. I don't even. know, MAN. >> Oh my gosh. All right, I got to know.

Obviously, you weren't a big fan of. Kevin Patulo. What do you think of the. Shawn Manion hire? >> Um, I hope that he can work with Jaylen. better than Pulo did because I think. that um I think that if he could work. with Jordan Love and make him a top tier. passer in the NFL, I think that maybe he. could work with Jaylen better than Pulo. Oh my gosh, I love this. I mean, he's. done his research, man. It's. >> all right. What is What are we thinking. about AJ? Are we still out on AJ? >> I mean, you were you were pretty upset. after the game. >> Yeah, I was very upset.

>> Sometimes a couple weeks. What What are. we thinking about AJ Brown for next. year? >> I'm not still 100% sure. I think that we. could definitely build an offense around. Schmidy, but I think that having someone. that we can like like sometimes rely on. in some big situations to just throw to, I think that we should still have him on. the team. >> I love that. He's a good player. Don't. Don't I know he had a rough go. I know. he's had some frustrations. Hopefully. that can be fixed with some new uh plays. and offensive. By the way, what do you. what do you want the Eagles to run this. year? What formations and schemes you.

want to bring in? I want them to run um I want them to run. it more to their strong side of their. offensive line cuz like really it was. this year it was more like like up the. middle runs and really with um Kell. Moore we didn't see that as much and. that's when Saquon had like one of the. best years of all time if not the best. rushing year of all time. So, honestly, I think that I would like if we could. run more outside plays and I think that. if we could get Jaylen a little bit more. um like seeing the defense better and.

like recognizing sometimes like because. like on the last play of the game it. seemed like everyone was going to blitz. I was there and like it seemed like. everyone's going to come in like a house. called blitz. So, I mean if it was a. house call blitz the play would have. worked but they backed up into zone and. they uh batted it down. So, >> man, you you're you're out here watching. Phil, dude. >> I love the commitment to the spatula. You're still talking into it like it's a. microphone. Have you ever Have you ever. actually flipped the burger? >> Actually, I did last night, ACTUALLY.

>> YOU DID. THERE YOU GO, BABY. HE'S. COOKING. HE'S COOKING. YOU GET THAT. THING nice and cooked. Was it well done? Was it medium? Was it Was it Was one. side raw? >> Uh, medium. >> Medium. Nice. A nice medium burger. I. keep it juicy and cooked, baby. I like. it. I like it, man. Well, I I think it. goes without saying if football doesn't. work out. You got a future in. commentating, man. You are natural at. this. >> You got the analyst work done really. well. Outside zone, the Eagles going to. run a lot run a lot more outside zone. >> That's what Shawn Manion and the McVey.

system is rooted in, right? Outside zone. boot. They'll still go down the middle, but yeah, you're on top of it. I love. it. Well educated, good takes with some. flavor to it. I love it, man. That's. typical Philadelphia. Do you want Do you. listen to WIP? >> Uh, sometimes like when I'm in my. grandpa's car. >> I knew it. >> There I knew it. >> There it goes. There it goes. >> I love it. He's a natural. He's a. natural. >> Wip man. Get a get him a segment this. year, man. Once a week. See See how the. new OC is doing.

>> Who's your favorite player on the birds. right now? Who do you like? >> Um, that's a tough question because I. really like Cooper Deene. >> Coup. Yep. >> Coup's got the juice. >> I probably got to go with Jaylen Carter. >> Jaylen Carter. JC baby, that's a bad man. in the middle of that defense. >> That's a big old sunbuck right there, man. You ever seen him in person, dude? >> Nah, you don't want to. >> You walk up on a guy that [ __ ] big. >> Oh, yeah, dude. He'd be like twice my. size.

>> How much of what you were saying after. the game is stuff that your dad's been. yelling at you furiously for the past 6. months? >> Absolutely nothing, actually. I came up. with. >> I came up with pretty much every single. word except except the part that I want. AJ Brown packing his bags cuz I wasn't. sure 100% about that. But I'm 100%. >> still want Pulo flipping burgers. >> No questions asked. >> He's sticking to it. He's sticking to it.

fan, man. Appreciate you, Sam, dog. Thank you for the uh thank you for the. bit uh that that you had on the on the. Philly news. Uh and also, man, thank you. for jumping on, dog. We'll have to. circle back and see. >> We got to get you back. We're gonna see. repetitive updates. How do you feel. about that, Sam? >> That'd be amazing. You guys are like my. idols. >> Who's going to win the Super Bowl? >> Patriots all the way. >> PATRIOTS all the way. >> I think that even though Drake May. hasn't like played his best ball during. the playoffs, I think that he's going to. come up. >> huge in this game.

>> Take right there. He's very direct. He's very direct. The. man knows what he wants. Sam, you before. we get out of here, you want to give. anybody a shout out? Anybody in school? Any of the homies? >> Uh yeah. Yeah. Uh first thing, can I. shout out uh all my friends at Table C. at Waken? >> Table C. >> And can I also shout out my friend Derek. Sanders? >> Derek Sanders. >> Shout out to DC. Derek DS. >> DS. There you go. >> Yeah, my bad. What are you shouting out. Derek Sanders? What? Is he just your.

friend? >> Yeah, he's my friend. And also, uh, one. more thing to say. Um, we got merch now. So, buy some merch. Um, >> some merch. There we go. Nice. >> He's a natural. Get the plug in. He's a. natural, >> fam. Well done, brother. You killed it. >> We'll have to follow up and catch you. next year and see how the birds are. doing, man. >> Absolutely, man. >> All right, dog. Enjoy. >> You're the man, brother. Before you go, is is Paul there? >> My dad? Yeah. >> Hey, Dad. >> One sec. Sorry. My dad's He's a little.

bit slow. >> He's slow. All right. >> Here you go. >> What's up, boys? >> What's up, Paul? >> What's going on, big guy? >> Has this kid always been like this? >> This kid's been wild since he came out. of his mom's room, bro. This kid's. crazy. We play in this Touch Football. League down in Villanova, and he coaches. the team. It's like all the kids. And I. go in to play quarterback cuz whatever. and he's screaming from the sideline, "You're the biggest bum quarterback IN.

THIS LEAGUE." I'M LIKE, "MY MAN, YOU'RE. SUPPOSED TO BE CO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO. YOU'RE SUPPOSED to be COACHING ME. YOU'RE THE FIFTH STRING QUARTERBACK ON. THIS TEAM." I'm like, "Bro, don't tell me how bad I am." He gets a. little nervous, but he when you let him. go, he he's a funny cat. >> Oh, you could tell, man. He's a freaking. firecracker, man. I love it. Well done. I'm sure that's a handful to deal with, but it's also a lot of fun, I'm sure. So, way to go, Dad. That's awesome. >> Hell yeah. I appreciate it, boys. Yeah, it's fun. But you know what? That'll put. him in a headlock and drop him to the. ground in 3 seconds. You got.

>> I do not hesitate. >> I really appreciate you guys uh having. him on and uh it was a blast for him. He's been looking forward to he looks up. to you guys. I don't know why, but he. does for some reason. >> I think cuz Travis Scott got Taylor. He's like, "Ah, that's my guy." Jason, he's got a new beard, I guess. So, >> I love it, man. >> Well, well done, man. I appreciate it. Appreciate you, big guy. >> Appreciate you guys. Thank you so much. >> ALL RIGHTY. THAT'S SAM Salvo and his.

father, Paul. I still think that Sam's. probably repeating a lot of those things. that Paul's saying, but either way, that. kid is something else, man. You can. tell. >> Paul, you can tell where his personality. >> put him in a few times. Yeah, exactly. Exactly, dude. That whole family. electric. >> Absolutely. >> All righty. That wraps up Stamp of the. Week brought to you by Adobe Acrobat. Any more final thoughts before we close. this thing out, Trav? Super Bowl 60. We're going to be out there. A lot of. things happening this week. >> I think we've kind of already talked. about it. Obviously huge Varel fans.

Drake Mays got his opportunity to, you. know, implement himself into, you know, Super Bowl stardom. And I just think. it's going to be a great game cuz the. Julian came on here, talked about, you. know, how the the Patriots and their. their coaching staff and they just have. an ability to to kind of control the. pace of every game that they're in and. then make the right decisions and the. big plays when the when they need to be. made on the offensive side. And uh that. defense is good, man. And then on top of. that, you got Seattle who's got the. juice, they got the energy, they got the.

excitement, they got they got the the. big play ability, you know, they got the. the ability to grind it out in the in. the run game. It's just uh it's it's. going to be a [ __ ] fun matchup, man. That defense flies around. I'm sure. they'll make Drake May's job a little. bit harder than it's been. And um I'm. excited for a [ __ ] great game, but I. do think that uh Seattle's got what it. takes to kind of come out on top on this. one. I can't say I'm I'm not here. rooting for Sam Darl, man. I just I love. that story. I love I love who he is as a.

dude, how he stayed true to him to the. process and himself and his confidence. And right now he's he's playing better. than he's played all uh all career. >> Could not agree more, man. Well said. I'm pretty much right there with you on. everything. Um I do got to say, uh I. will be out there at the Pro. I guess. this is coming out Wednesday, so I'm. going to be at the Pro Bowl beforehand. It is wild how this whole week has. turned into not even just the Super. Bowl. Like there's all these events out. there. It's like truly a week of almost. like a convention for the NFL. Like the. whole thing. >> There's NFL honors, like all of it. So.

>> yeah, there's new heights [ __ ] barade. PARTY. COME ON. NEW HEIGHTS, BABY. >> Either way, enjoy the Super Bowl. 92enters. That wraps up this episode of. New Heights. Thank you to our guests, Cooper Cup, Julie Edelman, and of course. Sam Salvo, the young up and cominging. journalist. Make sure you subscribe to. the new heights channel on YouTube and. follow the new heights show on wondery. app or wherever you get your podcast. You can listen to new episodes of new. heights ad free right now by joining. wonder plus on the wonder app or on. Apple podcast. >> Once again, new heights of wonder show. brought to you by into it turboax. Don't.

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>> You have to [ __ ] give him a chance to. shout out the boys. >> Shout out your boys. Shout out your. boys. >> Yeah, the Table C boys. >> Him and Derek Sanders are just going to. run the third grade. >> Did you guys see me? Did you guys see. me? >> They're getting kicked out of class. Guaranteed. They're going to They're. swag. Their confidence is going to be. way too high. They're going to think. they're [ __ ] way too cool. >> Man, there is something electric about. having kids on. >> Mr. Fasky, you're going TO BE FLIPPING. BURGERS. >> DO you know who you're talking to? I'm. Travis Kelsey's best friend. You [ __ ]. talking to me? >> I dig it, though. I I dig the kid's.

vibe. I don't know what it is about him, man. I just like the confidence. >> To Sam's teachers, we apologize. immensely. >> Yeah, no doubt. >> He's not walking in normal on Thursday. We're so sorry. >> We're sorry, but just put him straight. to [ __ ] in school detention. Actually, don't even give him a chance. to put him back in jail. >> Put him right against nose against the. wall. >> Speaking of kids, does do you guys hear. Benny just screaming right now? Is that. audible? >> Yeah. >> Should I try and. >> It makes the Turboax ad read better, I. think.