Randy Moss on Cowboys Revenge Game, Edelnut Origins, Wideout Woes & an All Dog NFL Team | EP 181

Jason, when it was time for you to call. it quits, what's the number one thing in. your mind you knew you were going to. miss about the game? >> I knew I was going to miss competing. You see, is is Ellie in the background? [laughter]. >> This is so funny. >> Did you go upstairs, Grim? >> No. Why not? >> Is that the oldest one? >> This is my my second. >> You say hi. You say hi to the greatest. receiver ever to play football. >> Say hi to Randy Moss. Are you guys going. to bring up W right now? All right. Hi. Wendy mom. [laughter].

>> So epic. >> Hello little sweetheart. How are you? >> Gold man. >> Bye. [laughter]. man. >> Love you. Uncle. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> Okay. [laughter] Baby. >> Nice. [music]. >> Welcome back to New H. It's a wonder. show brought to you by Xedia. the one. place you go to go places. You can go.

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that are listening to this show what we. have coming up. >> All right, 90%ers. We got another. amazing episode for you guys responding. to some of your uh fan mentions. And. we're also going to build an NFL roster. entirely out of dogs. >> OO. >> OH, RANDY MOSS IS HERE. THAT'S RIGHT, BABY. >> OH, YOU GOT MOSS. >> THAT'S RIGHT. That's right. >> Oh, yeah. Straight cash, homie. >> Before we get into that, let's get into. a little bit of that new news. News. >> Yeah, new news. New news. We are. pre-taping this one. I'm sorry. No real.

new news. Uh, currently we're on. location grabbing some incredible guest. conversation. Uh, not saying who it is, but we might be one of the goats of a. sport that you love. >> Ooh. >> Yeah. So, um, I guess that's the new. news. >> Yeah. All right. Nice. Let's keep this. thing moving into fan mentions. Fan. mentions is brought to you by one of our. favorite drinks of all time. I think Ed. Kelsey might be one of the top buyers of. this drink. At least the diet version. Uh, it's brought to you by Pepsi. Shout. out to Pepsi. All right. Here. Uh, NFL. put out the NFL combine then and nows.

How about that? Look at these pictures. Golly, I was so fat. >> You were fat. You were not fat in this. photo. It kind of It's not a not the. best photo, but. >> yeah, the old straight on where you. could see the double chin. >> How much did you weigh in that photo? >> I was a good 268, I think. I'm not sure. What was my combine height and weight? I. was 6'3 78 and I think I was like 258 or. something like that. >> You're 6'4 and 78. >> Yeah. 64 78. Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Either way, >> just under 65. >> YEAH. I WAS. >> OH, MAN. Did you scroll down and look. further? >> Jesus, Jason. You forget the trim. >> Oh my god. >> Why do you look so different? Why is. your nose so [ __ ] thin? >> Crooked. >> Dude, I look [laughter] horrendous. >> Why do you look like this? >> I don't know. I look like I'm going to. get stopped. >> If you showed me that picture back in. the day, I'd be like, "That's not my. brother.". >> That guy's getting strip searched for. sure. >> It's like the NFL purposely tries to get. the most unflattering pictures of.

rookies. >> I don't know it would have mattered what. angle they got at me. I think I was just. an ugly son of [ __ ]. >> He really grew into being a nice. handsome boy. So handsome. Look at you. on the right there. You're all golden. Get some sun. You've been at the shore. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. Those pictures are always taken in. the heat of summer. That first one on. the left is February. [laughter]. Big difference. >> February and Cincinnati training for the. job of your life. >> Did you see the other guys they put out? No.

>> I'll run through them real quick. Hold. on. >> Who else we got? >> Josh Allen. >> Jay Allen don't look too bad. Smooth cat. right there. >> No, looks more artistic now. Derek. Henry. Exactly the same. Don't see any. difference at all. >> Young King Henry. >> Jedha. >> Young Jedha. >> A Raj. Not much difference. Kind of has. a Lloyd Christmas. Go back. Got the. Lloyd Christmas going on there. A little. >> Yeah, the straight across. >> I mean, it kind of looks similar. All. right. All right. What do we got next? What do we got next? >> This guy will never age. He'll look like. this until he's [ __ ] 90 years old.

>> I think you're right. I think you're. right. >> Burrow. >> Burrow. I mean, I feel like Joey Burrow. Yeah. Just again, another guy who. probably trained up north. Didn't get a. lot of sun. Second one, a little bit. more sun. CMC. Another guy is going to look the. exact same until he's [ __ ] 90 years. old. >> Kind of look like a military cadet. >> Oh, Patty Mahomes. Patty Mahomes. Uh, >> still looks the same. Still looks the. same. Not a big difference. >> Looks he's got a billion dollar smile,

though. He's uh. >> much happier. >> Much happier man in Adidas gear now than. he was in Under Armour back then. >> Baker. >> Bake still. Yeah, Bake looks pretty. similar. A little of a beard. Yeah, that. black George has just been growing his. hair ever since. He's just hasn't. stopped [laughter] growing his hair. [clears throat]. GD, man. What he do? [ __ ] love that. guy. Oh [ __ ] Nice. All [laughter]. right. Well, good. Nice. Glad we glad we.

look different. >> There's one thing for sure is that at. the combine, they take the most. unflattering angle and lighting picture. they possibly can. >> Yeah. Especially boost that morale. >> for us pale wat in the winter uh kind of. guys. Yeah. >> Yes. Let's move on to everyone loving. Jason's content creator. >> Oh yeah, you are. I'm telling you, you're [ __ ] crushing it with the. content right now. >> Yeah. >> Yep. Click this link real quick. I think Jason Kelsey is quickly becoming. one of my favorite follows on Tik Tok. because everything he posts, it just.

kind of feels like either a grandpa. decided to record a video and maybe did. it on accident and then posted it or a. toddler took his mom's phone and is. running around filming everything and. just posting it without [clears throat]. editing it. Like his last video I saw. was him just like taking the subway. That's it. It's like those progressive. commercials where it's like you're. slowly turning into your parents and. they're trying not to let you do it.

>> I mean, I feel like a grandpa using. TikTok. I really do not get it one bit. >> You got to be a special like to be. really like good at it. You got to be a. special version of person, I think. And. you are you're a very special version of. somebody. You're authentic. And that's. what people [ __ ] love the most about. you in terms of the content you create. I'm not going to lie. I'm right there. with them, dude. I [ __ ] die laughing. at everything you do. Whether it's.

riding the subway or creating a garage. beer commercial about about beer powder. >> It's [ __ ] gold, man. >> The subway was fun. It was a great. subway. I thought it was a fun video. I. don't know. >> And it was fun. And you knew exactly. what you were doing. You knew what the. people wanted out of you. Kylie was. like, "What? Will you [ __ ] stop?". Like, if you have any idea how long it. took me to make that dumbass video, [laughter]. >> that's the one thing I'll always feel so. [ __ ] dumb, man. There was a there was. a point early on in my career when like.

the reals and everything really started. getting going and I I would make them. and then I wouldn't make them and then I. would just do one because I felt like I. had to keep it going. And then it was. just there was so many like stories that. I just felt were so pointless and some. of the [ __ ] I was doing was so pointless. and I just felt dumb doing it. And. you're clearly having a blast with it. It's the best, dude. Not feeling dumb is. like one of your superpowers. >> Oh, no. I mean, I feel dumb all the. time. I feel dumb wearing this hat right. now. [laughter].

>> It looks great. >> Just embraced it. >> From our new heights Reddit page, our. fantasy forfeit this year. All right. recreating the GQ shoot uh for a. calendar. THIS IS [ __ ] HILARIOUS. >> NICE. I mean, that's [ __ ] pretty damn. good. >> I mean, he's got a [ __ ] down pat. >> Yeah, man. That's He's got the head. tilt. All of it. >> He's got the chest hair. He's got the. gut. He's got the the sloppy tits. He's. [ __ ] great, dude. >> Very nice. Very nicely done. No a No AI. allowed. Love that. We're based in. Glasgow, Scotland.

>> Oh, Scotland. Nice. >> Nice, >> dude. to try and find somewhere in. Scotland that resembled that shot. Yeah, exactly. That's pretty good right there. >> Well done. Very well done. All righty. And uh yeah, I got a shout out from the. Simpsons. How about this, Tra? Did you. see this? >> No, I did not. Can you please. >> I mean, I didn't get a shout out. They. just like mentioned my existence, which. >> that's a shout out. That's a shout out. in my book. We [ __ ] grew up in the. heart of the Simpsons, man. Not that. it's not still the heart of the Simpson. because they're still rolling, but.

>> awesome things for me to do in. Philadelphia. Eat cheese steaks, hogies, pretzels, water ice, rip off a piece of case and. Kelsey's beard. >> Nice, dude. You're just going to have. random people coming up to you trying to. [ __ ] yank your beard off. >> My beard off if it's Marge or anybody. with the Simpsons or Yeah, I'm in. >> That's pretty good right there. >> All right, that does it for fan mentions. brought to you by Pepsi. >> All right, let's get into this Randy. Mouse interview, baby. Straight cash, homie.

>> I've never been more excited. Here we. go. [laughter]. OUR GUEST TODAY IS 6'4 WIDE RECEIVER. FROM RAND, WEST VIRGINIA. [laughter]. HE'S A FOUR TIME ALL PRO, SIX TIME PRO. BOWLER, THE 1998 OFFENSIVE ROOKIE OF THE. YEAR, AND THE 2007 COMEBACK PLAYER OF. THE YEAR. HE HOLDS THE RECORD FOR THE. MOST RECEIVING TOUCHDOWNS IN A SINGLE. SEASON. HE'S SECOND ALL TIME IN CAREER. TOUCHDOWNS, FOURTH ALL TIME IN CAREER. RECEIVING YARDS. AND HE IS A MEMBER OF. THE 2018 class of the Pro Football Hall. of Fame.

>> Just a legend. WE DIDN'T [screaming] PAY. HIM TO COME ON OUR SHOW, BUT IF WE DID, WE'D BE USING STRAIGHT CASH, HOMIE. [screaming] THAT'S RIGHT. >> STRAIGHT CASH, HOMIE. LET'S GO. >> 92ENTERS, PLEASE WELCOME RANDY. [screaming] MOSS. >> LET'S GO. [laughter]. >> HEY, what's up, fellas? Thanks for. having me, man. You crazy, dude. You got. me ready to play again. >> Let's Hey, that's what I'm trying to do. Get them juices ready. >> You know, you can go out there and break. somebody off, man. You already know. Just [laughter] throw it up, baby. Just. throw it Thanks for having me on, guys.

Man, I I know y'all got the number one. podcast out there. And you know, I. really don't I really I really don't do. many podcasts, right? But when I But but. but y'all y'all too, the brothers, the. realness of what y'all done put on the. field and off the field. Yeah, I got to. come and show y'all some love, man. So, thanks for having me on. >> That's why you're the realest, big guy. We can't thank you enough. You already. know you're an absolute legend in in the. NFL and uh even more so just being you. everybody has has seen the personality. kind of come out since the NFL. Um, and.

it's just it's so cool to have you on. this show with us, man, because you are. you guys the the legends that we grew up. watching and everything. Getting you. guys on this show is like taking me back. to my childhood and like I'm living out. a dream I didn't even know was possible, man. So, I appreciate you joining us. today, brother. >> Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. >> It's the personality off the field like. the the entire essence of Randy M. I. mean, you are the greatest highlight. player in the history of the NFL. Like, is there anybody else that has better.

highlights than Randy Moss? THERE'S AN. ENTIRE CATCH. ANYTIME SOMEBODY goes up. and gets it, >> you got Moss. >> If you're talking about my position, no, but if you're talking about players that. ever played the game, I mean, I I think. I think uh Barry Sanders was a human. highlight reel. But but you know, you're. talking about my position. No. Um but. but at the same but at the same time. guys you know just just being able to. stay grounded, keep myself grounded and. it's it's was really about the work you. put in you know and u.

>> you know a lot of people you know don't. really understand my background in the. the sport of basketball and Okay. And. the thing that I've always tried to tell. people, Jason, was that and Tra, you you. I've seen it in your game in the field. of play, you know, where you have 50, 60, 70 yards to go before you score, that's when I use my quickness, you. know, my elusiveness and my speed. But. once you get down to the red zone, it's.

all about boxing out, body placement, going up and get the rebound. So that's. where I put the game of basketball into. my game. And that's where that's why I. say if it if you put in the hard work, then hard work pays off. So like I say, the plays that I make, hey, I put the. work in to be able to make those plays. >> We can't talk hoops without talking. about uh your West Virginia days in high. school rocking with Jason Williams. Man, >> legendary duo. growing up, did you guys. both know that you guys had like.

something special that both of you were. going to go pro in uh in your respective. sports? >> Me and Jason, like a quick short story, Jason, while we were in elementary. school, we we played, I think, two years. of Puff Warner against one another. And. Jason was a phenomenal football player, phenomenal athlete. And every sport that. I played, Jason played. Or every sport. he played, I played. The only sport. Jason really didn't play or or do was. track. As far as baseball, basketball, uh, and football, you know, he excelled. at all three of the sports just like I.

did. And you're talking about honorable. mentions, all conference and things like. that. Jason was that type of athlete, but I think he got kind of discouraged. um, my sophomore year, his junior year, where the quarterback was already sort. of in place uh, so he could really focus. on basketball. So that was like Jason's. last year of playing football was his. 11th grade year or his 10th grade year. So we played AE basketball. We we we. traveled the country with one another. But I think the the craziest moment for.

me was just playing against a lot of. these former NBA players that we played. against in middle school and in high. school and then of course that I. branched off and made it to the NFL. But. just seeing some of the guys that we. played against in AAOU excel on on a. professional level. So that was kind of. like some some crazy surreal moments at. at the same time. >> That's so dope, man. It's awesome. It's. awesome. You were talking about the. crossover. Guys like Devonte Adams talks. about how in his routes he's he's he's. thinking as if he's like.

>> on the court, >> a ball handler on the court, >> right? >> And his quickness and um and how he how. he switches up his tempo to make it seem. more effective and more fluent. And it's. awesome to hear you say that cuz I think. a lot of guys get caught up in high. school and uh and even younger parents. are trying to get them to just focus on. one sport, but they specialize too. early. >> Me and Jason are huge on big advocates. on making sure you get out there, play. all the sports, get get an understanding. of the hand eye and all all these. different sports and not focus on them. until until after uh I don't know,

middle school or high school or um. whichever one you choose to to prolong. in college. >> There's carryover for sure. You learn. from one sport. You can take it and you. can apply it to another one. Like I feel. like I'm a better O lineman because I. did two years of wrestling in middle. school. Right. >> now I don't know if that's real or not, but you you learn about leverage when. you wrestle. >> No doubt. No doubt. >> Randy, he was the one he was the one you. didn't want to [ __ ] see out there, man. >> I can only imagine. >> This guy had pimples all over his face. You as soon as you start wrestling with. him, the pimples are popping and like.

the blood are pusses coming down his. face like you [ __ ] guy. >> Oh man, where's the mupp guy? >> Sweating sweating [laughter] his ass. off. He's a sweaty me like just mess and. he's just. >> purposely not wearing deodorant. I'm. going to make you feel me. [laughter]. I'm going to make you feel. >> he's a nasty son of a buck, man. >> Athletes should leave their options. open, you know, cuz like you said, you. you and you know, Jason, that you say. that your your position at center where. leverage is very important, it's like. like you really can hang your hat on,

yay, man. If I wouldn't have done. wrestling, then my game would have been. what? As a professional. So, I mean, like you said, you've been able to take. another sport and then put it into your. professional sport. Hey, man, that says. a lot. >> Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's and. it works for all of them. Like, I mean, basketball definitely feels like the. most applicable, especially if it's if. you got ball skills, complete. athleticism, most of the best receivers, tight ends. I feel like a lot of those. guys were hoopers growing up. It just. feels like there's a big carryover. But, I do want to go back a little bit to. those days with Jason Williams. What is.

it about guys from West Virginia? I. golfed with this dude and had the most. fun outing of my life at the drone. baddest golf out in this past year. Feels like you're the same way. It feels. like Nick Sabin. Even hearing him talk. like there's a authenticity and a. realness that there's I don't even know. how to describe it, but I just it's it. feels like I love everybody that I meet. from West Virginia and I don't exactly. know why. What is it about West Virginia. that it feels like guys that come out of. it like they're not trying to be.

anything? They're they're very grounded. in who they are. They're proud of who. they are and they don't take [ __ ] from. nobody. That's pretty much the vibe I. get from everybody I've ever. that is that is us. But I to answer your. question, I just think that if you come. from humble beginnings, I think that. really what's keep what keeps a person. grounded. And I think that everyone that. I've seen from West Virginia, all the. celebrities, you know, just being. humbled and keep it grounded because one. of the biggest things that I said in in.

my Hall of Fame speech back in 2018, just growing up and nobody caring about. who I was or who we were, you know, I. grew up in an uncorporated community and. um and and still to this day, my. community is still uncorporated. So, I. just think that, you know, being able to. grow up in some some real, you know, type of of surroundings and and. understanding what's real in life, you. learn that at a very young age coming. out of the state of West Virginia and. not just where I'm from in the county. I. just think as the whole state as a whole.

and what you see is what you get. So, I. know there's a lot of people, you know, struggling back at home. And you know, that's one of the things that really. kept me grounded, guys, of you know, going back and doing charity events and. going back home. I even took my Hall of. Fame Jack. I even took my Hall of Fame. jacket back home. And the reason why. because I wanted to give the kids. something something real to see, something real to touch. >> And it's like back where you guys are. from, it's like when you see the the. Kelsey brothers, you know, on television. playing, winning Super Bowls, now you.

seeing them, you know, endorsing. themselves. It's kind of like when you. go back home and seeing people that you. grew up with or their children and. things like that. So, I just want to be. able to give hope to people, you know, that grew up like I did. So, I just. think that, you know, it just answers. your question about people being from. West Virginia. I know what it's like. I. know what it's like, you know, when it. comes to hard times. And. >> that's something that I never forget and. I try to relay that message, you know, throughout my whole life. >> I love that, Randy. That is so good. We. got to get into a little bit of a story.

that Julian Edelman told us. >> Our [laughter] guy, our guy, our guy, friend of the show, you played with him. as a rookie. I couldn't I couldn't. imagine having a better vet than the. Randy Moss in the building. And uh he. said he you nicknamed him Edelnut. >> Ednut. That's Ednut. [laughter]. Well, he came in. >> Where did that Where'd that come from? >> I don't know where Ednut Edelman mean. I. don't I I know it just sounds crazy, but. you know, you know all the comedy and. jokesters in the locker room, you just.

try to find humor dayto day just to get. your day by. He tells a story about me. being on the phone with he calls it Mama. Moss and you know just briefly you know. I grew up in you know in you know of. course in Raman West Virginia and you. know my mom we grew up in the church and. u you know I grew up a drummer and so. when it when it when it comes to you. know profanity and things like that you. know my mom being the Christian she is. she doesn't want any swearing going on.

nowhere around her. So. >> at that time at that time I'm in the. locker room and Julian's behind me. cussing. I forgot who he was talking to. but he would be loud but he seen me on. my phone and I was smiling and I was. basically telling him to you know be. quiet to hold on and I I'm on the phone. and then he was like oh what [laughter]. you know so it it was like one of those. crazy moments that I would hear later. from my mom. Randy who was that in the. background swearing. I was like oh my.

god. So that was like [laughter] one of. those crazy moments that I had to hear. from my mama later on in life who was in. the background swearing. So that's. that's where it's where that's where. that moment came from. But it was. actually a crazy moment at that time. >> That's awesome. >> When you saw Julian come in because he. was a quarterback in uh at Kent State, man. Did you see something in him. immediately? Like did he have did he. have that it factor when he walked in. the building? The thing about New. England and how they were running their. offense about before I became a Patriot, you look at all the small shifty.

receivers. You have the small shift. Yeah. You have the Shaw the small shifty. uh running backs. >> You know, they had a guy like Kevin Faul. and they brought in later Sweet Feet. White and those other guys. But then. Yeah. >> You know, just looking at the past. before I became a Patriot, they had a. guy like uh they had a guy by the name. of Troy Brown. Went to Marshall. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> I studied his game. I was a big. >> I was a big fan of a big fan of his and. >> and I was just looking at Troy was I. think Troy was coming off a knee.

surgery. So, we bring in myself, we. bring in Welker and Edelman at the same. time. So, they're trying to figure out, you know, where they can put Julian. Edelman coming out of Kent State as a. quarterback. So, all the gadget plays. they knew they had in in Julian. But, I. just think being a Swiss Army knife of. getting in and out of cuts, he had to. learn that. And I didn't have a problem. throughout a 14-year career. >> uh teaching a guy the game. I think it's. the more you know uh the better it helps. you as a team. >> Oh yeah. >> And so I I really didn't have a problem.

with Edelman or anybody teaching him the. game. And I think that I just saw, you. know, his speed, his swiftiness, but at. the same time, you guys know as a young. rookie, his willingness to want to learn. the game. >> So that's really what what what took me. over the top with him. And then he tells. a story about me giving him money. uh to. feed the guys and I you know you your. late draft picks some guys might be. undrafted you know free agent but they. still got to chip in to to feed the. veteran so I just thought at that time.

and I don't know how much he was making. but that's always been my heart just for. the guys and you know how the vets get. you know how we get. >> the vets will be ruthless. >> especially y'all the old lament you know. the donuts the food whatever's not there. you guys will go crazy so that's what I. was thinking about. >> that's right [laughter]. but that's awesome All right, let's. flash it back a little bit to West. Virginia again. All right, so you're. 1994 West Virginia Player of the Year in. football. Also won the West Virginia. Player of the Year in basketball twice. >> You said you were more of a hooper. At.

what point did it transition? Did you. know football was the future? >> The summer of 94, Jason Nike used to run. a uh a camp where they invite the best. players around the country to a remote. location and just ball for the weekend. >> Yeah. Well, well, Jason was, you know, he's a year on older than me and I. always played a year up. Most guys do. when it comes to like AU and things like. that. So, um, >> so the following year I went to the Nike.

camp. I got the invite. Me and another. guy by the name of Jean Neighbors ended. up going to LSU playing point guard for. them. And speaking of Jean, Jean was the. only guy that I ever seen give Jason. fits as a point guard. They used to go. at it. If you ever ask Jason, say Jason, did you and Jean Neighbors used to go at. it? Yeah, they used to go at it. So, I. go to Nike camp and you know, I'm. sitting up there not really feeling good. about it because I'm seeing, you know, Kevin Darn that. I'm just seeing guys,

you know, 67, 611, 7footer. And so, I'm. sitting up here asking myself, can I. compete? Do I belong here? So, at the. time, you know, we were sitting here. talking about, you know, keeping your. options open of of playing all the. sports you can actually play. Well, I. was a seasonal athlete, just like maybe. you guys were. You know, whatever season. it was, that's what sport I played. >> Those guys like Kevin Garnett, there was. a guy by the name of Ron Mercer out of. Tennessee, ended up playing for the. Chicago Bulls. Oh, those guys were all.

year round gym wrap. So that year we. ended up playing the team out of. California that had the number one. ranked underassman by the name of Shay. Cotton. You don't believe me? You can. Google him. There's only been. >> Shay Cotton. >> Shay Cotton. There's only been three. phenom in the history that I've been. living. >> Moses Malone, Shay Cotton, LeBron James. Them the only three phenoms that I've. ever, you know, heard about. I've seen. two of them. I didn't see Moses back. when he was in high school, but I seen. LeBron and I seen Shay and he was a.

phenom. But anyways, we play them. He's. a left-hander. >> Well, he embarrasses me. I come back. [laughter] Yeah. I mean, he totally. totally totally embarrassed me. This guy. is an underassman, but he's the number. one rated player in the country. But. like I say, Kevin Garvette was the. number one rated player because he was a. senior that year. Shay was I think I. think Shay was might be a sophomore that. year, but he's the number one player. Anyways, I get embarrassed. So then I'm. already feeling a certain type of way. Well, we we get a rain delay. I'm on a.

I'm on a court. Kevin Barnett's out. there playing. So me and him somehow get. into a one-on-one match. I asked Kevin, does he remember this? And he he kind of. looked at me. I was like, "Well, Kevin, I got great memory. I remember this. I. remember like it was yesterday.". So [laughter]. using my So using my speed with. basketball, guys, I try to get to the. rim and try to lay it up as high as I. possibly could over the white box. Okay. >> Okay. Okay, man. You got to be up there. >> Kevin Garnett gets up on the basketball,

Jason, and pins my ball with the palm of. his hand. So I'm already feeling. discouraged from Shane Cotton and what. he did to me. And now Kevin Garnett. [laughter]. did this to me. So then when I go back. home, they said, "Hey man, you went to. Nike Camp Moss. How did it go?" I said, "Football player. That's what I'm going. to [laughter] be.". >> I said, "Man, I'm ready for football.". >> Yes, I am. And that is really a true. story. I'm I mean, I'm putting a little. bit of humor into it. But at the same. time, that was a true story that what.

would happened to me that really changed. my mind of playing basketball. And then. it's like, dude, I don't even think I. can compete with those guys, so let me. stick to football. >> That is amazing. >> That's such a good story. KG ended up uh. going straight to the NBA from there, right? >> Well, yeah, from high school. But see, the thing about it, it was kind of crazy. because we had a couple nights out. >> um where we seen each other, of course, uh we supported one another. We ended up. taking that the iconic picture uh. together. But like I said, I I just.

told, you know, just Kevin just more of. the of the things that. >> when you grow up playing against certain. guys, um, you know, I get fueled. I was. fueled in hype seeing other guys that I. played and competed against to make it. to the next level. And that's when I. started, you know, when I got to college. and seeing Kevin on that level and I was. like, "Hey, man, I could really. compete." Yes. >> And I remember going to Florida State my. freshman year, you know, coming out of.

West Virginia where the talk is, you. know, we don't we don't breed athletes. and if you do, they're they don't. compete, you know. So, I think that I. had a lot of a lot of questions about my. game at Florida State. But then I left. Florida State, went to Marshall, and I. had a lot of confidence and uh and the. reason why I had a lot of confidence. because a lot of the guys professionally. came back to Florida State and trained. Trav, you'll love this one. So during. the off season, everybody they're. beating on my door. Beating on my door. Country boy, country boy, come on.

outside. Come on outside. >> Everybody wanted the smoke. >> So I'm sitting up here like, you know. what's going to Hey man, the pros are. out here training. Come and get some. Come and get some. So I mean it was guys. like um Devin Bush's uh Devin Bush uh. senior. He was still in the National. Football League. He went to Florida. State. uh you know just a lot of the. past guys that made it cuz Florida State. was putting athletes in the league like. like right and left. So I get out there. and those guys are talking about oh. you're the country boy I hear about. Well anyways I go out there embarrass.

those guys I handle my business and then. and then right after that the spring. comes. The spring comes I I have a great. spring and then I go back to to West. Virginia serve some jail time and end up. getting you know thrown out of Florida. State. But anyways, getting back to the. story of the confidence factor of being. able to have the confidence coming from. Florida State and then from the AU. basketball court to Florida State, seeing guys drafted that I played with. at Florida State, seeing guys drafted. that I played AU ball against. You. talking about confidence and not looking.

back and then also the the the trials. and tribulations of of this, you know, coming from the state of West Virginia. Dude, it was destined for me to really. get out there and just grit my teeth and. just go get it. That's awesome, man. Heck yeah. >> That's such a good story from one flip. side to a to a Nike invite to realizing. that, you know, this might not be the. thing and then on the other flip side. going down to Florida State and. realizing like, oh yeah, I got something. over here, >> right? >> That's a dope dynamic. >> I feel the same way cuz people a lot of.

times people ask like, "When did you. know you could go to the NFL?" It's like. I kind of started knowing once I saw. guys go and I was playing against them. It was the same way in college. I'm. like, man, am I good enough to play in. college? And then I'm playing against. Thaddius Gibson over at Uclid and I'm. like, I can compete with Thaddius. And. he was committed to Ohio State, so I. feel like I can I'M I'M RIGHT THERE. And. then all of a sudden, you're in college. and you see guys that you're teammates. with go and you're like, "Okay, I might. get a shot at this thing." And what was. it like? You just mentioned going from. Florida State going back to West. Virginia, Marshall. What What was that.

like? >> It was hard for me, guys. And and the. reason why is because what I struggled. with, you know, as far as my, you know, my upbringing, then got into that high. school, you know, fight, you know, getting sentenced to to some jail time. And, you know, it's kind of like that, you know, throughout my whole life, I. think a lot of the people around the. state seen my talents and, you know, wanted me to be a mountaineer. And, you. know, I followed the Mountaineers. They, you know, competed uh against Notre Dame. in the national championship in the late. 80s. So, you know, I've always followed.

the Mountaineers. follow Marshall, you. know, in the divisions that they were in. and the players that they even put in. their program. But I just always wanted. to get out, uh, Jason, and and just. being able to get out and then coming. back home, it was kind of crazy to me. And like I said, being able to see those. guys pull up in the Lexus and, you know, the Mercedes and seeing a lot of things. that I didn't see growing up. So when I. came back home, it was kind of. depressing for me because I kind of. failed myself.

>> and and and I think that being able to. get uh an opportunity to play football. again. I got with Marshall, you know, I. had a great group of guys as far my as. far as my teammates, you know, just be. being able to uplift me in certain. situations, in certain moments. We went. undefeated my first year. So I think. that you know a lot of the stuff that. you know I took from Florida State I. took to Marshall man and and like I say. the rest is history. You can look at the. record books. You can look at the. scoreboard the [laughter] stat sheet.

>> So like I said man. >> so I took it I just took a lot you know. from Florida State but at the same time. like I told you what fueled me to go out. there and try to make it to the top. I. did I didn't want to take I didn't want. to uh take that little bump in the road. you know going back home to Marshall. I. just took that as another opportunity to. to go reach my goal. >> Hell yeah, man. Hell yeah. Well, it. worked out. >> Heck yeah, it did. >> Thank you to our presenting sponsor, Expedia. >> When it comes to travel, were all about. keeping it simple. No bouncing between a.

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>> What was What was What was it like going. playing on astro turf every single home. game or every single week? >> Well, the thing about it is I played on. astro turf astral turf a lot in high. school, too. So, it was kind of like I. played in astro turf in in high school. I played on astral turf in in in college. and then when I got drafted to the. Minnesota Vikings, they were on astral. turf. So, it was kind of like you had to. understand how to play on it because if. you don't understand how to play on it, it could really, you know, as far as the. cutting, you know, as far as the joints.

on your knees, and then also the scrapes. and cuts on your body. I mean, I don't. >> Yeah, I don't I don't really know my. degrees, uh, as far as burns, first, second, or third degree. But I've seen a. man I've seen a man on game day. >> to have his whole arm stripped from here. all THE WAY DOWN. >> TO HIS wrist and it was velcro and it. was pure white. >> Oh my gosh. >> So like I say.

>> I had to learn like I say I had to learn. how to play on it but at the same time. you know just being able to to make the. trans transition to to you know the. grass or the field turf. I mean, I. enjoyed every moment of it, though, cuz. I played on the worst. >> one stadium in uh that we played in high. school, Lakewood High School, and that. was that was only really the the the. only chance I ever had to play on Astro. Turf. But when you came in the league, it was you had all all fields. It was. astro turf, it was regular field, and. then it was baseball fields.

>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Like you were playing on the infield, you were playing on Astro. Like it's. that's dynamic. We we complaining about. field turf now and it's like man guys. were playing on carpet and uh and. running on a mound. They were running to. second base out there. >> I'mma tell you one of my my one of my. craziest moments. Of course I don't. think I've ever won in Philly. I don't. think I've ever won in Philly. >> But they used but they used to have a. wall in the visitors locker room. Did. you ever hear about that wall? >> I don't think I've heard about this. >> All the former players and I don't even.

know how how far it goes back. I know. it's back in the 70s. I mean, you got. from Walter Payton, you know, refrigerator Perry, you got all the guy. Well, anyways, when they come into the. visitors locker room at the Ovet, we. sign this wall and you can sign it. whatever you would want. You know, we're. going to keep y'all's whatever Randy. Moss, you know, whatever it is. So, Walter Walter Payton being, you know, my. favorite player growing up, I signed my.

name near his. I mean, I saw Jerry Rice. I seen all these players that are in the. visiting locker room. You you can sign. this wall. You can say what you want and. then put your autograph on it. Then I. said, "Well, what did they do with the. wall when they built the new stadium?" I. don't know. But that was one of the. craziest moment going into the vet. >> Oh, we got to find that wall. There's no. way they let that get get out of there. >> I can't believe this. This has got to be. this is in somebody's basement. They're. doing a good job keeping it secret. That's. >> They couldn't have demolished it with.

all the autographs and all the history. just on it was a brick. It was just a. brick wall that was kind of like holding. up the stadium. I say over 100 150. athletes on that wall. >> That's crazy. >> I can't believe they didn't incorporate. in the new stadium. They should like it. should be enshrined. I got to ask I got. to find figure this out. >> Yeah, really. >> All right. You mentioned get uh playing. with the Vikings, >> right? >> You get draft first of all, what was. draft day like? We asked everybody who. got draft like what was that process. like? My draft day was kind of crazy. because of the expectations that I had.

that I was going to be a cowboy. >> and. >> wow. Okay. >> I just know this. All right. >> Now, now I told you about my background. about my mom being in church and. Christian and my mom was, you know, really into church. She really wasn't. into sports. You know how you guys take. that visit to a team and then they host. you or whatnot, you know? >> Well, Dallas, >> yeah, Dallas was a little different. and. they hosted a lot of players. They. didn't host you, you know, individually. So, I come back home, you know, thinking.

that I'm going to be a cowboy. So, I. come back telling everybody in my. hometown and tell my mom. And then my. mom is like, "Okay, son, if you say. you're going to be a cowboy, then you're. going to be a cowboy." So, I remember on. draft day sitting there, you know, you. got the ESPN uh camera there in the. house that I was in. And I remember my. mom sitting there with a Bible on her. lap. And it was kind of crazy cuz I was. like, "Okay, mom, you know you here. I. know you're over there praying, but it's. kind of weird that my mom's here in this. sport type of moment." And so when I.

tell her I'm going to be drafted and. they, you know, the eighth overall pick, the Dallas Cowboys select Greg Ellis. And that was my, you know, supposed to. be selection. And so, like I said, I. seen my mom's, you know, energy and. facial expression, and then I was. feeling a certain type of way. So, I. just think that, you know, I know. there's more to this and we don't have. time for it, but you guys, you two, the. Kelse brothers, you guys don't. understand as far as there's been a lot. of lot of blood as far as the family.

blood that goes through the National. Football League. But I think it's being. successful as a pair of brothers, man. I. think that's really what I tip my hat. and commend you guys for because that's. really hard to do. You know, you got one. brother over here having success, you. got another brother, you guys are really. competing against each other, but at the. same time, you still have the love. So, anyways, my brother played for the. Minnesota Vikings before I was drafted. He went to Ohio State. He backed up Cory. Pace and Orlando I mean uh Cory Stringer. and Orlando Pace.

>> and and so um my brother called me. first. He's like, "Hey man, Coach Green. wants to talk to you." And I was like, "Ah, man. I'm not really into Oh, Randy, we're going to draft you." Okay, whatever. So, so because I was, like I. said, man, I was already depleted from, you know, not getting, you know, the. eighth overall pick. So, when it came to. the Vikings pick, they picked me up and. and then all of a sudden, um, you know, I get the call and I'm like, you know, thanks, coach. You won't regret this. All I want to do is just play football, man. It's just been a bumpy 24-hour road.

for me. I was an emotional wreck. I was. like, coach, I just want to play. football. That's all I want to do. So I. go back that night get ready to get on. my plane and I ended up breaking my. ankle. >> So if you ever look at my rookie trading. card, >> you'll look at me and Dennis Green on a. practice field and I have a aircast on. my foot because on draft night I had to. get my mind away from not getting. drafted. I went and played basketball. and broke my ankle. >> Bro, broke the ankle. >> Broke my ankle. >> What?

>> So I, you know, hobbled through a. airport, went through Chicago, O'Hare, hobbled. They seen me jumping. They went. and got a wheelchair for me, took me to. my gate, and then all of a sudden, I. went to Minnesota. They got me the gate, brought me to the coaches, and uh first. thing they done to me was took me. straight to to the doctors and put the. the the boot on me. >> What did they say? >> They can't say nothing. They knew my. history. They knew my background. So, I. mean, it's like it's like, okay, things. happened. So, like I said, man, [clears throat] it was like it it was it. was a crazy moment, but like I said, just been able to get drafted. My.

brother called me and uh was like like. that the the Minnesota Vikings want to. So me being up there in Minnesota for my. first couple years, man. I had my. brother with me. >> Man, that's so cool, man. >> You got your revenge on the Cowboys. >> Talk about Talk about Thanksgiving. >> What was that game like? Did you know. coming into it you were going to go off. for that much? >> No, I really didn't. I I I think that. you know how you sit at home as a kid. and you see all the athletes like score. a touchdown and all of a sudden a camera.

goes right to that athlete and I know. both of you guys have done it because. I've seen it. How am I you know how you. right? >> Yes. >> Every time you know it. >> So my biggest thing was being on that. stage Thanksgiving day. I just wanted to. say hi mom. That's all I wanted to do. So that game we're in the cold tub. because we just played on Sunday. Y'all. guys know how important the cold tub is. >> Oh yeah. >> So I didn't want to get in the cold tub, but the the veterans forced me in there. and I went up and having those three.

catches that iconic game. But I think. for me just going up there just being. able to ignore the noise of seeing. familiar faces because I remember when I. took that trip before the draft uh I. seen, you know, some faces, you know, as. far as the recruiting and uh the scouts. and things like that. So me going out. there just seeing some familiar faces, I. had to be able to ignore that, but at. the same time put my focus on going out. here and having a great game. But then. out of all the things that I'll say this. with that game with my mind being.

everywhere, you know, my wide receiver. coach, you know, God rest his soul, Hubard Alexander and Chris Carter, Jake. Reed, our wide receiver core 3D, we all. stayed together that game and it was my. rookie year. I mean, I know my coming. out party was the Green Bay Monday. night, but that game against Dallas, guys, it was kind of like it was so. emotional and it was kind of kind, we've. all been in a zone before, you know, where you think like every block I'm. going to get and there's no ball that. I'm going to drop. You know what I'm.

saying? For sure. >> So, that game right there, I know it was. just three three uh three balls thrown. my way, but I was like, dude, I was in. the zone that day and I was going to not. not let anything stop me. Three balls. for 163 yards and three touchdowns. That's a heck of a day, right? [laughter]. >> I hang my hat on that one. >> One of the producers is a Cowboy fan, grew up in Texas. He has this in there. I got to ask, and I we know you're. involved to Boulder. Do you still have. that same game if Dion's playing? >> Probably. [laughter]. Probably.

>> because Well, well, the thing about it, quick story. I got to tell you this, guys. And the guy that the Cowboy fan, you're going to be sick at this story. real quick. [laughter]. When I get to Dallas, I'm already. sitting up here wondering about what is. my day going to be like. Okay. So, I. come down to the lobby and one of the. security guys tells me, he said, "Hey, Randy, uh, you're not going to come to. dinner tonight. We're going to there's. uh, Mr. Jones sent the limousine to get. you and the limousine is going to take.

you over to Prime Time's house." And I'm. like, "I've never met Deion Sanders.". I'm like, "Oh my god, that crazy.". [laughter] So, that night I go to Deion. Sanders house. He tells me, you know, the story of, "Hey man, I'd love to play. with you. Jerry Jones wants you. He. wants me to talk to you." So guys, there. was no way that I was going leaving. Dallas that, you know, in my mind I I. was believing that I was going to be a. Dallas Cowboy. So. >> that is crazy. >> What a pump fake, man. >> Yeah, for the pump fake. So back to what. you were saying, it wasn't it it had.

nothing to do with if Dion was playing. or not. One thing that I'll tell you. that Chris Carter was always up for the. big games that we played the big guys. like we had Anias Williams Hall of Fame. brother out of Arizona Cardinals y. >> played him we played uh James Hasty and. Dale Carter cornerbacks out of Kansas. City at the time they were both pro. bowlers. So, being a veteran player, you. know, he always used to tell me about, "Hey, man, you got to be worried about.

this and you got to worry about this.". When I remember talking about Dion, and. he was like, "I don't know if he's going. to play, but if if he does, you got to. watch out for this. You got to watch out. for that." So, I was just up to the. moment of my rookie year knowing it was. Thanksgiving. Everybody talking about me. and Deion Sanders, and I was like, "Man, I can't not worry about Dion." That's. like, that's how focused I [laughter]. really was, guys. I really was really. focused that game. >> Was there a DB throughout your entire. career that you kind of like give the. tip of the cap to that that you just he.

always made your job just that that much. harder? >> Yeah. And I'm not ashamed to say his. name. Derel Rivas was a nat. >> Yeah. The real he was just a nat. I. mean, and the thing about it, what what. was you going to ask him, Jason? What. made him what made him good? >> Yeah. Because it wasn't like he was like. this crazy like fat. Like I mean he was. but what made him so good at at corner? >> I mean without stating the obvious you. know guys study you know they study. techniques they study you know formation. things like that but by him being not as.

fast as you know a Chant Bailey or Deion. Sanders the man was athletic beyond you. know when I say athletic if you study a. guy like Derel Rivas go back to his. highlights back when he played. basketball uh in the state of. Pennsylvania. >> Okay. Okay. Do some homework. Yeah. >> Okay. So, when I go back to to do my. studying, I already went back to his. high school looking at his skill set. because I remember the release. I I did. a release his rookie year and then the.

second year I came back. I tried to do. the same release and I'm like, "Oh my. god, he got it." So, it was kind of more. like he did his homework on me. Now, it's time for me to do mine, which I. thought I did. But I had to really go. into my study mode with a guy like him. because he was so good. And I just think. that the way he knew how you stepped, how he knew body language along with. having a, you know, a great defensive. coordinator on a guy like Rex Ry and. then later on going to, you know, Bill.

Bich's defense. So like I said, Derell. Rivas was a nat. He studied, but I think. one of the things that he really did get. credit get credit for was how good of an. athlete he was. Just not as a. quarterback, but the man was a hell of a. guard, too. >> Heck yeah. When I got to go up against. him, he was so stout and strong. >> He had great patience. >> He never opened his hip. It was crazy. >> Do you remember the time when they took. you out of the three-point stance and. they let you get out here and line up at. that wide receiver? [laughter]. >> Oh, yeah. >> Well, because but because the crazy.

thing about it was Travis, it's kind of. like we knew, you know, as football. fans, we like, hey, this man right here. can play some football. So then all of a. sudden now you they they detach you from. the tackle and let you get out there in. the two-point stands and then you really. get to see how shifty you were as a. player. That's how I meant Jason. >> Yes, that was a perfect impressation. [laughter] right there. >> I you don't look at the shoulders. You're going to get lost. You're going. to get lost in the shoulders. being able.

to go against certain guys like, you. know, a Charles Woods and a Chad Bailey, a Derell Rivas. A lot of that stuff was. important because of if they do their. study and and and learn how to be. patient at the line, you'll definitely. have success against most wide receivers. in today's game and past. >> I love it. I I got to We usually ask, "What is your welcome to the NFL. moment?" But you made the Pro Bowl uh. your rookie year and we're second team. all pro. It doesn't sound like you had a. welcome to the NFL moment that was like. I mean, I guess it was the Cowboys game. I guess it was the Green Bay or Cowboys.

game. Like there were positives. It. wasn't my welcome was like facing off. against Ray Lewis for the first time. I'm like, man, I can't believe I'm. trying to [clears throat] block Ray. Lewis. >> Do you have any moments like that? >> I think what was crazy for me and it it. it was Monday night. It was Monday night. in Lambo. >> and I remember I don't remember the. result of the play but I remember. walking back to the huddle and I walked. right past Reggie White. >> and just just as you know. >> just could feel the aura.

[laughter]. and. >> the minister of defense right there. >> Hope that guy doesn't get his hands on. me. God damn. now [laughter] because I. mean there's already a clip of him. throwing Chris Carter out the way he's. trying to chip the edge. But I think. [laughter]. >> you know so imagine that that that. throw. But I think that that was a. moment for me. I I think just not. looking at the the actually the the the. stats and the yards. I just think being. able to look uh and seeing that I'm on. the same football field as Reggie White.

And then there was another clip of me. talking about my coaches telling me, "Hey man, sit down, man. Come rest your. legs." I was like, "No, that's Brett. Favre. THAT'S BRETT FAVRE." [laughter]. >> SO, you know, so it's just crazy moments. like that. I just remember Brett Favre. being on the field, Barry Sanders being. on the field, and then walking past. Reggie Whites of the rookie. So, it's. kind of like the guys you grew up. watching and now you're on the field. playing against him or with him. That's. that's that's probably my surreal. moments. >> Oh, yeah. Heck yeah. >> I had one of those surreal moments when. we played the Patriots for the first.

time. I saw Tom Brady in person, man. Live in action in his super suit wearing. the 12. Man, how was it when you went to. the Patriots? Was it was it a night and. day like difference from anywhere you. had ever been or what was it like. meeting Tom for the first time? >> Dude, we can have fun on this on y'all's. podcast all day. But check this out. [laughter]. >> So y'all know So y'all know so you know. Saturday night uh before the game. We're. in a hotel. We're the visitors, right? >> So you know the what? We're on two. floors and you know you got the security.

on both floors and all this crazy stuff. So, we're the Raiders. We play on. Sunday. I fly back to Minnesota. So, one. of my former teammates is at the hotel. getting ready for the Monday night. Well, guys, I drive down to their hotel, sneak in the hotel, and go up the uh the. exit uh the exit stair and get up on. their floor. All right. I tell. >> Jason, you're looking at me like R. LIKE, WHAT IS THIS, RANDY? SO, >> YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. They're.

probably what, four or five hours before. they go to the stadium on Monday night. I sneak in their hotel, meet Brady for. the first time, Tra, meet him for the. first time, and I said, "Look, dude, I'mma cut straight to it." I said, "Dude, I want to play with you. Whatever. you can do to get me up here, >> do it." So then next thing you know, I. gave him I dapped him up, gave him some. love, walked out. >> That night, I watched the game. Brady's. first time ever in his career if he. throws five touchdowns against the. Minnesota Vikings. So I'm sitting up.

here thinking, "Oh, I might have rubbed. off on Brady a little bit. I MIGHT. [laughter]. [screaming]. >> Oh no. who been given the opportunity to. get traded from Oakland to the Patriots. The number one thing that I wanted to. do, Jason Travis, offensive players, >> I wanted to know everything that Brady. knew as far as Jason the checks, >> you know, when I'm hot, when it's a. sight, >> when you're changing the protections,

giving me everything that Brady knew, I. wanted to know because if it had. something to do with me, I wanted to hit. the ground running. Okay. >> Sure. Yeah. Crazy. And I had high. expectations and end up getting a. hamstring injury that uh that forced me. out of preeason. And so actually my. first actual game going out here really. doing it was week one against the Jets. And so like I said, I was coming off a. hamstring injury. But anyways, the rest. is history about the 23 touchdowns and. the record-breaking season. But like I.

said, I just wanted to know everything. that Brady actually or possibly knew. that could help my game out. Not enough. guys play this game through the eyes of. the quarterback. Man, it's it's crazy. how much you can you can benefit off of. understanding the whole grand scheme of. things. And you know, I think even at a. young age, man, I like playing. quarterback, I felt like helped me out. so much more because I understood the. the the progressions. I understood, you. know, where that that that position's.

eyes were before every single snap. Man, that's awesome to hear, brother, that. that because it really did seem like you. guys were in sync, especially if. somebody was uh was playing too low or a. safety came down or you already know it. was uh it was up top all all season that. year. >> I got to ask you, I were on this. quarterback uh receiver dynamic. Quarterback receiver drama is like a. tale as old as time. I remember playing. freshman football. Trav hears me bring. this up all the time. I'm wide open. I'm. getting mad at like will you throw me. the ball? Like what is happening here?

Why are you not so I got to when you're. seeing quarterback receiver drama? Are. you always on the receiver side of thing. like what whose fault is it usually in. your mind? >> I think it's a 50/50 and I'm the reason. why I say it's a 50/50 is because you. take a guy like I'm going to give you. just a prime example of what we're what. we're looking at right now. You take a. guy like Aaron Rodgers. Okay. >> Yeah. And it's like Aaron Rogers has. some bad throws where he looks, you. know, where he might throw the ball.

It's a back throw and then like it's. nothing. No body, no body language, no. emotions. Okay. >> Then all of a sudden the very next play. or a couple plays the receiver drops the. ball. Now Aaron is all like. >> Yeah. Yeah. pissed. >> Yeah. He's pissed. So, like I say, you. know, not singling Aaron out because I. mean, he's had a phenomenal career and. doing some great things, but when you. look at, you know, to answer your uh. question, Jason, I think it's just a. 50-50 split because we have our times.

traded where we're not in the right. place or, you know, we might have went. too too far that the quarterback wasn't. expecting us to be, but at the same. time, they could get rushed and try to. get the ball out of their hands. But to. that point in the history of the game, Trav, you and Pat, as far as the. anticipation. of me knowing where you're going to be. before you even turn your head or get. out of your break, >> that should be studied. >> And I [laughter] seriously and I and I.

and I really mean that. And I'm not. saying it just because you're sitting. here on this podcast because. >> I appreciate that, Randy. You talk about. the art and the science of sports, but. at the same time that quarterbacks are. really made when you want to say, "Hey, I want to see my I want to see my wide. receiver create separation and get. open." No. Patrick knows what the route. is, where you're going to stop your body. language. And like I say, one of the. that's one of the most beautiful things. to see when it comes to quarterback.

receiver combination is that of what you. guys created. Man, I tip my hat to that. Man, that that means the most comfort. for you, big guy. And I'll tell you. what, man. Sometimes he surprises the. [ __ ] out of me. I don't I don't know cuz. I'll turn my head around and and and. maybe break off my route different or. maybe even just run a completely. different route than what's called Pat. is just right on queue, right on the. money every single time, man. He just. knows. We've uh that's what happens when. you when you golf together and you you. you play drinking games together, man.

You just you get a. >> hey, >> you sit down to have a beer with a guy, you start to get in his head. >> Well, let me let me ask you just, you. know, football talk, you know, like I. told you, we could do this all day. Just. all day, baby. Just just our position. >> when it comes to the chemistry that you. guys between you and Patrick that you. guys created. How did y'all create that. chemistry, bro? I mean, like, I I know. that you're going to say pract I know. No, it's not just practice. like what.

type of belief that like y'all's. conversation like how did y'all make. that? Talk to me, man. Tell me. >> You already know. I think it's You. already know. It's over. It's It's all. the reps. It's all the reps. But at the. same time, I think there is just a. natural understanding of uh of backyard. football. Like like Pat will Pat will. tell you from the from the get-go. I I. used to come into I came into this thing. with Alex Smith. He's he's more sevenst. step. That ball's coming out. You know. what I mean? And you got to be there. Pat's kind of like, "Yeah, I'm around my. seventh step, but I can I could, you.

know, airtime on it. Do something with. my feet. My seventh step might not be I. might stretch my drop this time." So, his timing is is more just feel out the. game. And I kind of have that similar. timing as well. And I remember I went up. to Pat one time and and was like, "All. right, man. If they go this coverage, I'mma run it like this. I'mma run it. like that. Hey, what do you think if I. give him a nod here and and take an. extra like tick to get out of my break?". He was just like, "No, man. Just get. open." [laughter].

He's just get open. I'll throw it when. you get open. [laughter] He's just. >> That's crazy. >> He's just like, "Bro, the guys are He's. trusting me to get open." He said, "I. don't care how you run this route. You. just get open and that ball is going to. be there on time.". >> And it really shows. And you know, not. trying to throw it. And Jason, I'm not. going to leave you out, my brother. When. I look at your game, I looked at more of. your game toward the end of your career. And the reason why is because both of. you guys toward the end of your or at.

the end of your careers, you were. playing at a high level. So Paul, they. both basically put the Kelsey brothers. together. And I would have to ask Jason, when we talk about jelling, when we talk. about chemistry. >> throughout your whole career, >> who is that player? And it probably is. going to have to be a guard. >> that that you would say, "Hey, dude. I. would just have to give him this look. and he already know we're going to maul. whoever it's in front of." Who is that. player in your career that you just It's.

not even work. It's a look. Who is that. player? >> That's tough. I had so many of them. I. would say the guy that I knew like we. didn't even need to communicate. We were. just always on the same page is probably. Brandon Brooks. like Brandon Brooks who. he he only he won a Super Bowl with us. but and he had a shorter career. He was. incredible. He was big, strong, and he. had a good feel for the game. He was an. athlete playing offensive line. >> Oh wow. >> The best lineman I played with like.

Howard Mud used to teach the game like. what's pass blocking? He'd be like how. do you play basketball? Just the. quarterback's the hoop. Just keep them. in front of you. I'm like coach I need. some more technique. I need you to give. me something [laughter] more than that. But. >> guys that conceptualized the game like. that were the most fun to play with. When you play with guys that were too. robotic and too much like an offensive. lineman, it was harder to. adjust to the in-game stuff happening, if you know what I mean. Like I didn't.

even need to say something to Brandon. He we just both knew with this guy in. this position, the linebacker right. there, that we were going to hit the. block this way, right? >> Like why why else wouldn't we hit it. that way? But another guy you might have. to communicate with throughout the week. like, "Hey, we really need to take this. one more vertical." Or, "Hey, you take. more of them. I'm going to push him on. top of you because of this backer is. going to fall off if he's in a stack. position on this play.". >> Right. >> But Brandon knew it. Isaac Sealu was. another guy that knew that. >> The best field player I ever played with. was Jason Peters.

>> Okay. >> JP. JP we we he had an alert call. I'm not. going to say it because they still use. it, but he would alert me that there was. edge pressure. >> Okay. And I and I'd be looking out. there, there's no safety cap and I'm. like, "Man, how does this dude know that. this pressure is coming?" I'm like, "Whatever, I'm going out there." Sure. enough, they bring the nickel, right? There's certain guys that just. understand spacing and alignment, >> right? >> And those guys were so valuable on game. day because they didn't you didn't need. the coaching on the field. They just. could go out there and play. And those.

were the guys that I always yelled with. the best for sure. The Lane Johnson, uh, I gotta throw him up there, too. That. was like my second brother for a long. time in Philadelphia. Like we he got. drafted two years after me. We did our. whole career together. Um still doing. his thing out there, >> right? >> I just didn't do a lot of communicating. with Lane. Lane was more all the way out. there on the edge. It was more like you. said, guards. >> Well, I got to ask you guys. I know this. is y'all's interview, but you know, I. asked it and I know Tra, I know. everybody's speculating. Jason, you. first. I know what I missed when I told.

when when I told the people that, you. know, I was going to hang it up and I. remember crying and my my wife I. remember hearing the car door slam and. my daughter and my wife came in and I. had to, you know, wipe my face and do. all that crazy stuff cuz I didn't even. want [laughter] to see. >> I didn't want it. I did not want my wife. TO SEE LIKE, "BABY, WHAT'S WRONG WITH. YOU?" NOTHING. YEAH. SO, I think to my. point, my question, you know, Jason, when it was time for you to call it. quits, what's the number one thing in.

your mind you knew you were going to. miss about the game? >> I knew I was going to miss competing and. playing and. game day. What I didn't know I was going. to miss was the locker room. And. everybody tells you you're going to miss. it, man. But it's hard until you remove. from it. >> so that you really understand that there. ain't anything else that's replicates. this like. >> guys from all over the country you're. coming together for a specific task and.

>> it's just it it that ends up being for. sure what I miss the most is just being. in the locker room with the guys and I. purposely go back still to try and get. that but yeah I think that's the and. then I also miss the regimentedness of. it. >> right does That makes sense. Like I I I. I mean I'm happy I don't have it, but I. also there was a a self like there was a. productivity in my own head that I knew. every day I'm going to go in I'm going. to do this and I'm going to do this and. I'm going to lift and I'm going to watch.

tape and then I'm going to go out and. dominate on game day and I'm going to do. it with my boys. >> Right. >> That's the way I would answer it. No, that that was mine because I I'd say. there's all types of things that you. could actually say, but I think for mine. was the locker room itself, seeing your. brothers, you know, men from different. walks of life that you're coming. together for one cause. So, like I said, for me, Trav, I you know, the reason why. I asked that because I, like I said, I. know the time is coming. I don't know. when, but I know, you know, the time is. coming. Uh, I don't know if this was the.

last or if it wasn't. But if there is, if this was the last, what do you think. that you'll miss most about, you know, the game? >> Man, I think it's just those those. moments in in in the big games, man. The. the feeling of of having to to rise to. the occasion. Um be there for, you know, 70,000 uh that are all counting on you. out there outside of just the the guys. that you go to war with, you guys go to. battle with, man. um those moments of of. of rising to the occasion in the heat of.

the battle uh you know in the playoffs. and and and all the big games out there, man, th those that's a feeling that I. know I'll never get again. And I think. that's that's uh that's something that. >> um you know, those are those are the. things that you cherish the most. And. especially, you know, if if you're. fortunate enough to to be in the. playoffs and and uh and make runs at it, man, the satisfaction that you get and. the the successful feeling you get of. all the hard work that you put in, it's. finally paying off and and uh I think.

that'll that'll be one of the things I. miss the most, man. For sure. Well, look, I I I know we don't I don't know. how much time we got, but mine, you. know, from a football standpoint, when. we talk about a moment, you know, Jason, you talked about the, you know, the. competing part. I had a 14-year career. and, you know, I've had a lot of. moments, but I think really the 23. touchdowns. is I think the moment I think the moment. for me because being a kid, Trav is more.

like seeing Jerry Rice. I mean, Herman. Moore was a big tall receiver that Barry. Sanders had in Detroit. >> Seeing guys like that that I grew up and. then coming into, that's why I was just. telling you guys of what it felt to me. just seeing Miles Garrett break that. single season sackle record because I, like I said, it's not an individual. thing, but when you have an opportunity. to go break a record, you know, as an. individual, >> that was my, you know, moment, you know, surreal moment for me of all the hard. work that I put in. Jason.

>> Yeah. >> Out of your whole career, there's one. defining moment for you. >> Not not the Eagles, not the media. For. you as a ball player, what's your. defining moment throughout your. professional career that you put your. that you can hang your hat on? >> We had a lot of successful years where. running backs had a lot of yards and you. kind of take that a little bit like I'm. I'm I had something to do with that, right? Like you bring up the touchdown. record that you hold or that you broke. Like there are the great it is an.

individual record but it is kind of a. team record too. Like there are other. people and that's the greatest thing. about this game, >> right? >> But I would say honestly for me. >> I had an awful season in 2016. Played. like trash, right? Like almost got cut. from Philadelphia. A lot of people don't. even remember it. Philadelphiaians do. probably. But the next year. I put a lot of work in in the offseason. I started getting better with my. technique and it like was like. everything clicked so much better that. year. I made my first AllPro. >> Okay. >> That that season.

following me having just an awful year. >> really catapulted me into what ended up. being my career. Okay, >> if that makes sense. Yeah. So, >> this was really the defining moment was. the response I had to almost getting. cut, almost like everybody thinking I'm. on my way out of the league. [ __ ] that. I'm going to go in here. I'm work my ass. off. >> Right. >> I studied my technique, got better with. my leverage. Um, and I came back and it.

was the best year of my career and we. happened to win a shoot ball on top of. it. Okay. >> So, 2017 I was on cloud9. >> [laughter]. >> I I didn't have I DIDN'T [snorts] BREAK. A TOUCHDOWN RECORD, but I broke the. Jason Kelsey record for offensive. [laughter] line play. That was So that. that's kind of that's it for me. Yeah. Go ahead. >> For me, oh man, I'd say um the coolest. moment was uh being on the mountain top. with Jason, man. Playing in the Super. Bowl against the the Eagles the first. time and and being at the Super Bowl. with Jason, having our family kind of.

get put on a pedestal. Our mom was the. NFL mom of the, you know, she was on. every TV screen left and right. Yeah. Uh. because her two boys were playing each. other in the Super Bowl. Man, that was. uh when I look back on some of my. favorite memories, man. Being on the. field uh both being captains there for. the coin toss, looking at each other. from across the uh the field, man. It's. just uh it's a memory I'll never [ __ ]. forget. And that was definitely the. pinnacle, man. the guy that I started. doing this thing with when I was 5 years.

old in the backyard just throwing the. ball around. >> I don't even know if I've ever asked. this. The first touchdown you scored. against the Philadelphia Eagles. I know. you remember it, Travis. >> Yeah. >> Was that like you taking out an entire. frustration of being a younger brother. in one moment? Randy, >> we I we got to PULL UP THE HIGHLIGHT. [laughter] THIS DUDE CAUGHT A shovel. pass at like the 20. >> Okay. went all the way down AND JUMPED. LIKE HE MOSSED INTO THE END ZONE FROM. THE FIVE. [screaming]. JUMPED INTO THE END ZONE. I HAD NEVER.

SEEN THIS LIKE 15 FT. >> RANDY, you know when you you get the. ball on a fast break and you just see. the lane and you just like I'm going up. I'm take I'm just [laughter]. like Jordan, man. Oh gosh. >> Yeah. No, 100%. Yeah, that was for. getting my ass beat all all those years. when I was younger. I finally had a. chance to make it even. >> Yeah, he's officially way more athletic. than I am. [laughter] There's no. question. Thank you to our sponsor, All State. >> Checking All State first could save you. hundreds on car insurance. That's smart.

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>> I joked with our ESPN Countdown crew, Wreck, Alex, Teddy, >> and Granny Cheffy, every week, and you. know, they sit up here and say, "Hey, man, you look like you can still play.". I really believe the way that they. changed the rules of the game that I. could really still go out there and give. a a team close to double digit. touchdowns. I really still believe I. mean I mean. >> I can I can still I can still get up on. the rim. I can still dunk a basketball. Okay. >> Okay. >> And so me just being able to go up and.

and just use my hand eye coordination. and body control. And I think that's one. of the biggest things because I sit up. here and talk about you got mossed every. week and I talk about the DB getting not. getting his hands around and talk about. the hand eye coordination that the wide. receiver needs. I think that's very. important, you know, as you get older, no matter, you know, you know, how old. you get. Like Mike Evans is still, you. know, still out here making plays. And. you think about it, Mike Evans was not. always the fastest wide receiver, but as.

far as his athletic ability, his hand. eye coordination, just put it in his. Jason, just put it in his vicinity. >> So, to answer your question, I still. think I can still go out here and maybe. get close to, you know, 10, 11. touchdowns a season. Would you be open. to it if if a team called? Is is Randy. answering the phone? >> Where I'm at right now as far as, you. know, my, you know, happy happily. married, my kids are thriving and, you. know, doing their things. I think for me. it would have to be the right call, the. right team. Cuz the only thing I'm.

really missing right now is a Super Bowl. ring. So, if the right call and the. right opportunity came and the team gave. me an opportunity to come out there, just be a red zone threat, I I I could. put that 84 back on one MORE TIME. >> LET'S GO, [cheering] MAN. FBI. Are you. [laughter] kidding me, man? You're. getting me hyped just thinking about. doing this, man. This shit's epic, man. [laughter]. >> Look what Philip Rivers got everybody. thinking. We just just one more. Just. one more, baby. Just one more. >> Philip Rivers had everybody around here. He had people like had Cam Newton.

cutting up on his podcast. He had. everybody around that played the game of. football really thinking they could put. some WD40 on them joints and still come. out here and make something happen. [laughter]. So, >> I love it, man. Are there any like. quarterbacks right now that you're like, man, I I would I would go crazy playing. with that guy. >> Quarterbackwise, there's a lot of. quarterbacks that I like. And the reason. why Travis just because the game has. changed. >> Oh, yeah. >> You know, so much of of of guys just. been in the pocket, but you know,

um Pat is phenomenal. Um and not just. being just going back there just. slinging the ball. One of the things. that you said about your quarterback, and I'm not just saying it because. you're, you know, we're sitting on this. podcast. I just think that a quarterback. being able to buy time for his pass. catcher is very important. You, you. know, you have guys coming through here. like, like Jason, I remember you telling. the stories about you going going. against Aaron Donald, you know, all of.

them, all I mean, guys are so bigger, faster, stronger now in this in this day. and age, in this game. And you know, having a quarterback to be able to give. you a little bit more time to work your. craft is what I look at right now. And I. think that if you're just talking about. three quarterback that comes to mind, I. love Joe Barl's game. >> Uh I love Patrick Mahomes game. And then. of course, >> you know, I think it'll be, you know, a. guy like Josh Allen. I love his game. >> Can't beat it. But but like I say, I.

just think just more of the of the. quarterbacks been able to buy some time. because I like I say, you know, you're. getting double, you're getting triple. Well, let me work through this double. and this triple coverage. And like I. say, Travis, you've done it plenty of. times. So, answer your question, I think. those three guys really stand off the. charts right now. >> That'd be a good one right there. >> Is it true you never stretched on game. day? The thing about stretching on game. day with this, [laughter]. and hopefully you guys can definitely. attest to this, is it's kind of more. like getting down and touching your.

ankles or you know, you know, loosen. your hamstrings up. That's not the. stretch that I meant. Meaning that if I. see you across the room from me, Trav, and you're sitting over there bumping in. your headphones, well, I'mma bump with. you. Then all of a sudden, we going to. start jumping around. Before we know, we're both sweating. So, so basically. that's what I meant that I don't stretch. on game day. I rely on my brothers to. help me stretch. So, it's just more on. the, you know, the jumping around that. we do all the, you know, the I don't. really Well, I mean, some guys have a.

little false enthusiasm in there, but. like I say, it's just more getting. around your brothers and and, you know, us, you know, bringing bringing the. energy out of one another. >> Bring the energy, baby. That's my you. got to do it together, too, man. It's. it's can't you can't just let one guy. try and be it, man. Everybody's got to. bring it. We got one more for you. though, big dog, then we'll let you get. out of here. Um, as someone who's. perfected the lateral. I've taken notes. from from the legends of this game. >> All right. >> You you have one of the most iconic. football plays of all time. Can you walk.

us through that whole play? Was that. like a designed situation or. >> No, it was really we we we actually we. were playing the Broncos at home and I. remember you know of course the last. play and I think that at the time my. quarterback Dante Dante always had a. strong arm but I think in that case I. don't think that Dante could have got it. to the end zone from where we were. So. he rolled out to the right and I. remember that it was more like just just. a Hail Mary.

>> Yeah. Yeah. And so he throws the ball. and I get up and catch it. And the one. thing about it, you know, being a pass. catcher, Travis, like we have to decide. kind of like at the last minute, do we. want to hands it or do we want to body. it? So it was more like in the. situation, the ball was hanging in the. air a little too long and I said, "What. do I do here?" So basically, I bodied. the ball. I got up, I bodied it. So when. I came down out the side of my. peripheral, I see a purple jersey.

>> So. >> and now we're on the court and now I see. a. >> that's you know, you know. [screaming]. >> So like I said, man, anytime I see that. play, it's it's kind of like 11 guys, you know, playing heads up football cuz. like Jason, you said, it's not the. moment, it's everybody doing their job. So, yes, I know that I got the, you. know, recognition from throwing it on my. head, but Jason, where would I be if you. guys, my offensive line at the time.

would not have held it up for Dante, the. the offensive line, the running back's. protection. And that, like I say, a lot. of the things that we accomplish, you. know, on the football field has to do. with 10 other guys. That's why I've. never, you know, >> I've never ever singled myself out as an. individual. No matter what the play. looks like, I know that 10 other guys. have to do their job for me to. accomplish mine. >> Iconic, dog. >> There's been a lot of 10 other guys. accomplishing jobs in the NFL. Nobody. has ever lateral a ball like that,

though. [laughter]. >> No. And nobody ever played the game like. Randy Moss, baby. Randy, thank you so. much for joining us, dog. I do not want. to get crazy on this the ending of this. show, but to let you guys know what. being on this show really means to me. Y'all already know what I was battling. Yes. >> You know, throughout, you know, my. cancer and and just coming up on my. oneyear anniversary. >> I told you guys about my brother and. what, you know, my brother went to Ohio.

State. My brother ended up dying. I went. to the Hall of Fame in 2018. All right. My brother passed away in 2019 and you. know things wasn't you know great as the. relationship. When I tell you guys when. I look at you guys and and see the. things you guys love in your. relationship it's a when I say that I. get jealous about it. It's not a. jealousy jealousy. It's more on that I. wish I would have had that type of. relationship with my brother. And and.

the reason why I'm telling you this. because I I remember after one of after. y'all's game tra you came up and kissed. your big brother on a cheek. You. remember that? >> Oh yeah. I remember if there's if. there's anybody. in all of sports history, football, basketball, anything that really felt. that brotherly love. Hey. Hey you guys. Where is it at? Y'all give me some man. >> No man. I love you dog.

to y'all, bro. Hey, congratulations on. your success, man. This podcast and your. career, man. Thanks for having me on, guys. Much love to you. >> Godamn, man. What a just a special dude, man. >> The best. The absolute best. >> He's so [ __ ] down to earth and so. just himself, man. And he's always just. being the most giving person, you know. what I mean? If I He's He's the most. shirt off your back kind of guy, man. And uh we got to get we got to catch a. fish with the big guy. I just started.

getting into the old wildlife, man. Fishing is one of those things. Bass. fishing specifically, I haven't really. done. >> I've done a bunch of fly fishing, as you. know, Trap. Bass fishing is one thing. that I've never done. Everybody raves. about it. Even fly fisherman, they'll. talk about taking poppers down and. hitting the bass, especially like in. June, July, once they start coming up, water gets get warmer, you do some top. water fishing and they really attack it. >> Apparently, it's a lot of fun. So, would. love I mean, I jump at the chance to. freaking catch some fish with Randy. Moss. You think Ry's ever mossed a fish?

>> Straight cash, homie. >> Come on now. >> I don't even got a stretch on game day. >> All right. Well, appreciate Randy Moss. for jumping in. Now, we got to get to. some No Dumb Questions for you 92enters. And all right. Now, before we get out of. here, it's time for a special edition of. No Dumb Questions brought to you by. Hills Pet Nutrition. >> We received a 92enter submission asking. us how we would field a football team. with dog breeds. And we partnered with. Hills to make our picks. from Ryan.

Lutch. 9494K. Anyways, episode two of. Asking No Dumb Questions from Northeast. Ohio. Hey, shout out to Northeast Ohio. Which dog breed best describes you guys? One for onfield and one for off-field. And the followup with all of these. players as dogs or cats because well, players as dogs. Players as dogs. Players as breeds of dogs. All right. Um, where are we starting with this? Uh, since Hills knows there's no such thing. as dumb question, especially about pets. Let's start with the first question.

What is your onfield dog breed? >> Are we repeating this or are you just. asking? >> I'm asking you. This is going to go in. I'm just going to help. I'm going to. walk us through this one. >> What dog breed is me on the field? And. what dog is. >> Who is Jason Kelsey on the field as a. dog? >> Off field. I feel like I'm a blood. hound. M. >> just like that blood hound on the porch. with his lips sagging over the sides of. his teeth like just. not moving unless he smells something. and then he's getting after it and it's. time to work. >> No chance. >> I don't You're so active.

>> That's what I'm saying. I think you guys. have way too much. all over Italy. >> There's no way. >> You look at what you're wearing. >> That's when I smell that's when I smell. something. I'm in. When I get a scent, I'm I'm active. >> You're getting a lot of scents. You are. getting a lot of scents. >> I got a good sense of smell. >> Okay, there we Okay, I'll buy it. All. right. You talk You've kind of talked to. me like half into it. It's fine. >> Still, you are not. You present so much. lazier than you actually are. You are so.

[ __ ] busy. >> You can ask Kylie. Kylie. Kylie, am I. lazy? >> What? >> Am I lazy? >> What' you say? >> Am I lazy? >> No. >> See, she said no. She said, "No.". >> No. >> She said, "No, you're a hardworking man. You are not sitting on the porch.". >> You are not a. >> You are not sitting on the porch waiting. for a scent. No, you're a [ __ ]. go-getter. You're out there hunting. You're out there hunting. >> All right. Who's Who's Travis Kelce?

>> Travis Kelce off the field. >> I mean, it's got to be like a golden. retriever, right? It's like just like. >> I buy that. >> All American freaking great personality. Everybody loves him. >> Yeah. like to be active. They'll play. fetch. They'll play some fetch. >> You throw a ball. Travis gonna go get. it. >> Harry as [ __ ] Yeah, I can see that. >> Shedding. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> On the field. Which one we going first? Travis. >> Yeah. On the field, Travis. Who is he? >> I don't. God damn it. I wish I dog. breeds, man. It definitely changes. I'm.

not as nice. >> on the field. Feel like I'm still pretty. friendly, but I'm a competitive. >> Good ball skills. >> You're still kind of like Yeah, you're. an active active one. So, we in the. retrievers category. >> or like a short-haired pointer. >> I mean, you kind of you kind of threw. out the Irish wolf hound out there and I. at first I said no because I didn't. think they had good hips cuz I got. really good hips. >> Dude, they can run. >> They can run. They got some viciousness. to them. >> They're not big ball skills. They're. really not vicious at all unless you're.

a crown dog. >> Oh, okay. Well, that's the only time. I've I've only seen them out there. playing. >> No, they they're not interested in. chasing balls. >> You got to love that as a tight end. You. have to love. You got to love the. chasing the balls. >> You got to be willing to do the dirty. work. >> What about like a German Shepherd? >> I mean, German Shepherds could get huge, but they're not that big. >> Yeah. Don't get me wrong, I'm not. [ __ ] I'm not like the Grunks and the. Jimmy Grahams of the world. You know. what I mean? Like those guys are like 3. in taller than me. >> You're 6'4 and 78. >> Yeah. >> I feel like you're a great Pyrenees on.

the field. >> Oh, >> they're uh like herd protection dogs, right? So, they'll put them out with the. flock in case any wolves get nearby. So, they'll get physical. I'll give you. Great Pyrenees. I like Great Pyrenees. >> And I'm a teen guy and they run in. packs. >> That's right. >> Yeah, I'm in. >> All right, I'll take a great Pyrenees. >> Great Pyrenees cuz they also like from a. distance can kind of give you a lab. look. They're just much bigger. I like. that. >> Yes. Yes. >> They're friendly as [ __ ] too. Everybody's. >> Well, no, they can be. >> I think they can be. They can. They can. be, but they're also like they were bred. to protect.

>> Where are the Pyrenees Mountains? >> Now we're way sidetracked. >> Are there Pyrenees Mountains? >> That's why they're the Pyrenees. Oh, didn't know that. >> Southwest Europe. between. >> France and Spain. >> There you go. Yeah. >> All right. Who's Jason on the field? >> Jason on the field. >> What dog is Jason on the field? >> Dude, he's a special breed of O line. So, it's like you got to have I don't. know what dog. See, I don't know dog. breeds like this. I need help. >> I'll do a mastiff. I like a mastiff. >> Feel like a common protector. It's got. to be another hurting dog.

>> Trying to look at sh the hering. I'm. looking at the hering group here. What? Like a Belgian Malininoa. Not bad one. >> Why do we want a hurting? >> Well, like you're an offensive lineman. You're kind of like you're in the. protection realm. >> Yeah, I buy that. >> But there's like hurting dogs. Like it. can't be as as athletic as a great. Pyrenees. Oh, have you ever heard of a. um Oh my gosh, it looks like a [ __ ]. It looks like a lion. It might be called. something a lion. >> You're African Chow Chow. >> No, it's like an African. >> It looks like a lion. >> I think it's called something African.

Maybe it's Alaskan. Something with an A. I'm thinking like something that isn't. like overly like athletic just like is. going to stand its ground. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I'm going to protect the house. You know. what I mean? >> Tibetan mastiff. >> Tibetan mastiff. >> You ever seen them suckers? >> Yeah. That's a big boy. >> Yeah, I can see it. >> Oh man, that's a Jason dog. Look at that. guy. >> Trying to figure out the hairy one. >> Look at that guy. That's a Jason.

>> ancient guard dog. Hell yeah. That's. that [ __ ] guy right there. >> That's Jason Kelsey [laughter]. >> pulling around the edge. That's Jason. Kelsey. Tetan Mastiff. Let's go. >> I knew it was some sort of mastiff. I. knew I was on the right track. >> All right. Where are we at here? >> Uh we can we can click. What's What's. the rest of a football team? What What. are we looking for in a quarterback? >> Quarterback, you want a good leader. >> See, that's the that's that German. Shepherd. >> Yeah, I was about to say German. Shephardd. I would say Border Collie, but I don't know that has the size on. Bordeaucaf. I think Border Carly is.

safety or defensive back. >> You see him go after the freaking uh. Frisbee. Like they're very good in. space. >> Cuz I was also thinking Jack Russell on. defense, too. >> Jack Russell. >> Yeah. No, they're scrappy. No, they are. scrappy little guys. Put them at. >> Where else are they going? >> What do you mean? >> Where else would you put him? >> Oh, I'm not putting him on offense. >> No, on defense. You said you said. >> or like in your nickel. >> I would say maybe a nickel more size to. play outside. >> Jack Russell Cherry. It's like a little. small dog. I think the dog from the.

mask. >> I think they were bred to like hunt. mice. Maybe. >> they will wreck some mice. >> I don't know. I love those dogs. Those. dogs don't they don't need to be on the. football field. >> Oh wow. No, I'm telling you, they play. they play bigger than their sacks. >> Who are they guarding? >> Who's our wide receivers? What receiver? Okay, so if we're going German Shepherd, German Shepherd quarterback, what are. you putting out there wide out? Greyhounds. >> Yeah. [sighs]. >> Only thing with Greyhounds is they don't. have great uh ball skills. >> Dobermans. >> I was going to say Dobermans are DNS, right? M. >> they got that big chest on them too. >> They could be linebackers. Maybe.

>> It could be linebackers. >> It feels like more of a defensive. position. I kind of like. >> Doberman feels like a defensive dog, right? >> So, who's your wide outs? >> I want a Belgian Malinwall as all my. linebackers. >> They're very good dogs. >> I like Border Collies at corner. >> Border collies at corner. That's good. >> I don't think they got speed. >> Border collies, >> bro. They [ __ ] fly. >> Not compared to like a taller dog, >> dude. They [ __ ] fly. >> They can move. Border collies can move. They can move, but I think they're more. safety movement. I don't think they're. corn corners got to be like the fastest.

dog breed. >> So, what are you putting there? >> That's where your greyhounds come in. Or. greyhounds might be too They might not. be agile enough. >> That's what I'm saying. That thing. >> greyhounds don't want it bad enough. Greyhounds don't want it bad enough. Okay. Have you met a greyhound? No. Greyhounds don't have that dog in them. They're very skittish. >> Never met a greyhound. I've been on the. Greyhound so many times though. >> Okay. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. >> Love the bus. >> Okay. Where we at? What about running. back? What do you want at running back? Linebacker's got to be Belgium. >> What's the one? Not the German Shepherd, but there's another dog breed that is.

[ __ ] unbelievable. More athletic than. a Shepherd, but a little bit. >> Visla. Vishla are my corners. Those. things can [ __ ] haul ass. They're. agile as [ __ ] I might even put wide. out. >> Ooh, that's a good choice. >> Vichla. >> Whip it at wide out. [laughter]. >> Whip it like your Darren Sprouls. Kind. of line them with a lot of places. Little kind of sneak in. I want to. throw. >> What kind of offense are we running? If. I want a Shanahan style offense, they'll. put a whip at a running back and he'll. get yards. >> Okay, so we've got quarterback, we got. running Wait, did we sign on running.

backs? >> We did not say running back. >> Running backs. Okay, >> I'm trying to think of a dog that has. that mentality. I mean, I guess maybe. we're putting Doberman on defense, right? >> Yeah, Doberman's on defense. >> Border Collie wouldn't be a bad running. back. >> Border collie is not a bad, but I feel. like I want Border Collie going out. >> I can see Border Collie at receiver. They're like the number one frisbee dogs. on the planet. Yeah, got to be receiver. >> Border Wymer. What a Rhdesian Ridgeback. Is that too big? Coron power with him. Wymer Riner is not a bad one either. You. also have the Australian Shepherd. You. could run the Australian Shepherd out of. your backfield. Keep the border collie. on defense. Australian Shepherd's what.

you want out of the back field. >> It's too pretty. >> Running backs can be pretty. Oh, Jake. just said Dalmatian for running back. I. don't love that. >> E. >> Yeah, that's why Jake's not invited to. this. Australian cattle dog. Kind of. another like hurting breed. Low to the. ground. >> I just feel he's got to be a little bit. bigger. >> You're running one power out of this. thing. >> What's the blue healer? Ooh, I'll do a. blue healer. >> Not a bad. >> I'll do a blue healer. >> No. >> What about like dogs that are sled. pullers? What? Like a husky or a. malamute? >> Husky's not a bad choice. >> I don't hate husky. I mean, I think.

that's the team, boys. I think we got. it. >> Do we set one of our dtackles? We didn't. do dtack. >> Ooh, dackles. Yeah, maybe that's your. chow. I. >> mean, that's got to be your big just fat. freaking. >> Yeah. St. Bernard. >> St. Bernard was the thing I was. thinking, too. >> Beethoven. >> Just drooling and getting freaking. slobber all over the place. >> St. Bernard defensive tackle. I think. we're good. That's our team. >> It's not a bad team. >> Okay, I'm being asked to recap the team. real quick. So, all right. At. quarterback, we had German Shepherd. Running back, we did Husky. Let's do a. sliding dog. Our wide receivers, what'. we throw out there? That was our.

>> uh Border Collie. >> Border Collie. >> Didn't we say the Greyhounds? >> Uh I thought we said Greyhounds don't. have good ball skills. >> We could do both. Ghounds. We have one. Greyhound, one Border Collie. >> There you go. >> Border collie for sure, though. >> Got a Greyhound to take the roof off the. thing, but then Border Collie can. freaking run all. >> Good call. Good call. >> Running the crossing routes. Crossing. routes with the border collie. They can. all look the same. >> Yeah. Tight ends, what do we have? >> Great Pyrenees. >> Great Pyrenees. Uh, all right. We'll. miss him here. Defensive tackle, St. Bernard. Defensive ends, we had our. Doberman's. Linebackers were Malininois. Safety Border Collie.

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the Edlut story, the infamous giving you. the nickname Edlut. And he gave us a. little more information. And he said he. was actually on the phone with his. mother and you were swearing and that's. why he called you Anon cuz you were. being a little Were you swearing in. front of Mrs. Moss? >> Let me clarify this story. This is on. Christmas day. >> Yes. Yes. >> We're in a locker room. It's Christmas. You know, early day, no post meetings. We get to go have a good dinner with the. boys. Everyone's jolly in the locker. room. I go to Randy. I go, "Hey, Randy.".

And I can hear he's talking to his mom. I said, "Tell Mama Moss." I said, "Merry. Christmas." Randy goes to me. He goes, "Edna, if you ever talk to me while I'm. talking to my [ __ ] mom, [laughter] I WILL SLAP THE [ __ ] OUT OF. YOU OR SOMETHING." AND I'M a rookie. I. was so scared. I was like, "Oh man, [laughter] I just disappointed him on. Christmas. What's going on?". >> I probably was cussing. I'm sorry, Mrs. Moss, if you heard any cuss words. [laughter].