Paul Rudd on Why Jack Black is The Best, Worst Auditions, Chiefs Fandom & Naming Your Nuts | EP 171

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uh just to catch up on all the fun [ __ ]. me and Jason have been doing. Uh Jason. wants to tell the people what we have. coming up this episode. 92ersenters, we. got a great episode coming up. We got a. great guest episode. That's right. Joining us today is the first guest we. ever had on the show, >> Mr. Paul is here. >> Um, we're going to talk about everything. from his new movie Anaconda coming out. working with the one and only Jack. Black. >> We're also going to find out if he knows. ball and so much more.

>> Oh, so stick around. Check it out. >> All right. >> Here we go in three, two, ONE. ALL. RIGHTY. OUR GUEST TODAY is an actor, producer, screenwriter from the. University OF KANSAS. YOU KNOW HIM FROM. KNOCK. THIS IS 40. I LOVE YOU, MAN. ANCHOR MAN PARKS AND DIRECT WHITE HOT. AMERICAN SUMMER AND HIS UPCOMING MOVIE. ANACONDA. >> HE'S THE GUY WHO MADE ANT-MAN COOL, a. diehard cheese fan and the 2021 sexiest. man alive in the first ever guest on New.

Heights. THAT'S RIGHT. PLEASE WELCOME. BACK 92ENTERS, MR. LET'S GO. >> Oh my god. What? >> Hell yeah. >> Oh yeah. It's good to be back with you. guys. >> Welcome back, my brother. >> Thank you for having me. It's good to. see you as it it's always good to see. you guys. Is that true? First. >> Yeah. You wish me a happy birthday, man. >> Travis had a birthday. >> Oh, I remember that. >> And you surprise guested. >> You know what I remember the most from. that? It was your birthday, Trav. And.

we're laughing and then we started. talking about our dads and we just wound. up crying. >> Exactly [laughter] what happened. It's. like, happy birthday. And we're all. balling our our heads up. >> Some good dads, dude. >> That's the best [laughter] part. >> I felt like that's not why you wanted me. on. >> It is. It is. It's exactly what I. needed. I needed to get reminded that I. have an amazing dad on my birthday and I. had to thank him for that. So, this is. great, man. Well, I appreciate you. coming back on. You're uh you're. obviously in the middle of promoting. Anaconda, dude. Yeah. >> Um, the last I I kind of remember.

talking to you a little bit uh over the. summer about this at at the Big Slick, dude. And you were you were mentioning. it and I was like all giddy in the seat. like getting ready like, "Dude, you guys. are really doing this. This is so. [ __ ] cool, man. You and Jack Black, everyone's always [ __ ] love the duo. of seeing you guys just interact here. and there, and now they get to see it on. the big screen, baby. [laughter]. >> He's the best. He's the best. He's one. of one. Jack Black, it dude. Unbelievable. Multi-talented. Multi very.

musical talent. Yeah, >> he does. He's like a He's like a comedy. tsunami. >> He's a He's [laughter] a to He's a. tornado of talent. >> There we go. The alliteration god. >> He is He's like He's like the Tasmanian. [laughter] devil. >> I got to know who had this idea. Where. did this come from? >> The guy who wrote this script is a guy. named Kevin Etton. And he wrote it with. another guy. He's kind of his partner is. a guy named Tom Gormickin. They had done. another movie previous to this called.

The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, which I don't I would highly recommend. this movie. >> Nicholas Cage is in it. >> Yes. >> Playing himself. >> and Pedro Pascal is in it playing a guy. who's just really into Nicholas Cage. And um it's hilarious and it's this. >> weird meta comedy. It's just so smart. and original. And so I loved that movie. I saw it like four times. And when uh. this script showed up, it was from these.

guys. I'm like, "Oh my god, they made. that amazing movie." And I started. reading it and started laughing just. because it's similar in that people. think it's a remake of Anaconda, but. it's really not. It's it's these these. idiots that try and remake Anaconda. [laughter]. and uh and so it's kind of, you know, the indie way. >> Yeah. And then while we're trying to. make this, you know, we're not. filmmakers. We were just kids that used. to make movies together cuz it was fun. And then we're now, you know, all old. and our lives are not, they haven't.

worked out the way we expected them to. So, we kind of throw caution to the wind. and try and recapture the magic and. pursue our dream of finally making a. movie. We're going to reboot, reimagine. our favorite movie, Anaconda. And then. we go down and then we start getting. hunted by a real Anaconda. It's. >> It's epic. >> It's so dumb. >> It's epic, dude. I [ __ ] loved every. second of it, man. >> Absolutely. Thanks, man. >> I gota Dude, so you mentioned uh a bunch. of. >> a b a bunch of friends that used to make.

movies as kids. >> Yeah. >> When you were a kid in high school and. middle school, like uh like was there. ever like a camcorder like a house like. >> family camcorder that you used to like. do stuff like this in the backyard? >> Absolutely. This is like this was that. was my favorite thing to do. I had the. camera, you know, I mean, I'm a fossil. So, I had the I had the [laughter] the. camcorder that uh you put the vide tape. in the side of it and then.

>> close it and then I would just, you. know, hit the button to record. I would. selfedit through the camera. >> Through the camera. Oh, wow. I was going. to say this. >> I edit just stop [laughter] start. And so, um, I, uh, would, yeah, I we. made I made movies with, uh, buddies of. mine. I did it all through college. Um, and I thought they were so funny and I. watch them back and it's like, these are. terrible. These [laughter]. >> these are.

the experience though, man. You're. getting your feet wet. Do you remember. Do you remember any of the names of the. of the movies? One of the things that I. I used to do was with a buddy of mine. named Guy Garvin. And we did a series of. uh they were Hey Garvin. They were the. Hey, it was the [laughter] Hey Garvin. series. And uh it started where it was. like, "Hey Garvin, toss me a beer, would. you?" And he would just always say, "All. right." And he'd be in another room. somewhere. And then he he would throw a. beer and through these cuts it would fly.

around corners and was you know and then. we did about 10 of them and they just. got more and more elaborate outside. inside it. You know. >> this is gold. This is gold. I asked I. asked that because Jason did the exact. same thing. You know I'm going here. Jason had and Jason you can go ahead and. tell him the uh the gist of it but I. just remembered the name of it being. ribs of beef. That was one of the movies. we made. We [laughter]. I was in a satire class in high school. and we like reimagined the Rumple.

Stillskin movie or story as a movie. about a king that just wanted KFC. chicken [laughter] and somehow. ribs of beef would spin something into. fried chicken. It was so stupid. Looking. back, [laughter] I was like, what are we. doing? But I used I loved we were the. next wave of it. I I would go on iMovie. I made Travis's highlight films. I would. make like highlight films for the team. Oh, really? I loved me. Oh, yeah. We We. loved messing around with all that.

stuff. It was so fun. So, watching this. film, like the squatch portion was like. so just like, "OH MY GOSH, THIS IS. HITTING home right now.". >> Yeah, it was awesome. >> It It is a thing I think uh a lot of a. lot of kids do. I certainly did kind of. growing up and and that's, you know, I. definitely related to that part of the. story. You know, when you're that age. and you're talking to your friends like, "We we could do this. [laughter]. >> We could do this. Do. >> you see us on the screen?". >> People would freak out if they saw how.

good these videos are that we're making. [laughter]. >> I'm really glad that um they're not on. uh on YouTube cuz I [clears throat] look. back at now. It's like these these are. unwatchable. >> But that's that was the fun of it though. because Jason's Jason's the same way. His was on the old school like family. camcorder or like the school camcorder. that he used. So this is like ancient. artifact like you it's in somebody's. parents storage that they just pop out. every like few like decades and it's. just like. >> unless your dad records Law and Order.

over top of it. >> which legitimately we a family a family. video. >> just cuts to the Law and Order intro in. [laughter] the middle of it like that. Are you. >> so good man? Well, my wife was um. pregnant with our son, Jack, who you. guys know. Um my god. Uh Julie watches. so much Law and Order. Like, it's on a. loop all day. >> uh all the time. And then once when Jack.

was a baby, when Law and Order would. come on, I mean, he couldn't even walk. He's like on the couch kind of half. sleeping. when the. he would just pop up and [laughter] he. could see in he was so used to kind of. when he was inside hearing that theme um. it was like a dog whistle for him. [laughter]. >> so good. It is a catchy. >> It is you and Jack Black star in this. thing. Um in terms of like how it came.

together for your guys' role, did you. guys come together on this or did you. take it to him? Did he take it to you? Did the Did the writers already have. this kind of like mapped out that that. they wanted you guys to take this role. on together or what? >> I got sent this script and I read it and. thought it was really smart and funny. and I hadn't really seen anything quite. like it. >> Um, but it was kind of still a work in. progress. So, I started kind of trying. to work with them and start to develop. it a little bit more with them. They.

were writing it. I didn't I didn't write. any of it, but um uh we had talked about. it for months and months and I was uh. real gung-ho to do it and um something. else had come up and it wasn't really. set up and then I got this message that. oh, Jack Black read it and he [snorts]. wants to do it and I I've worked with. Jack a couple of times but never like. this and we've done little bits, you. know, in things in the past and I really. I mean I love Jack, he's the greatest as.

we all know. And um so I thought, "Oh, you I got to call him because if he's. doing it, I really like this is it would. be so much fun." And so we were talking. on the phone and we're kind Yeah. All. right. You're going to do it? Yes. I. Let's do it. And we talked for like a. good 15 minutes. And uh and then he and. he goes, "Oh, yeah. And then when you do. this and this and I'm doing this and. this and and I realized as he's saying. it I'm like.

>> wait a minute which part were you. thinking thinking which were you. [laughter]. know I was playing the director Doug. which is he goes I was going to play. Doug I I saw you as Griff. I said oh I. was imagining I was Doug and you were. Griff. I saw you as director. He's like. oh I was uh and I was like well I'll. just play Griff and THEN [laughter]. >> that's literally how it happened. we. just like, "All right, I'll just play. that part." Um, so we made this. decision, never consulting the director, [laughter].

>> which is probably not the right. >> not the right thing to do. But, um, but. that's how that's how it happened. And I. think that we were both really excited. at the idea of, uh, working together. because, you know, we've talked about it. for a long time and I'm the number one. Jack Black fan. So, >> so [ __ ] cool. I've always thought. Jason had a little Jack Black in him. >> Yeah. You know, I've been a fan of Jack. for a long time. >> Yeah. No, you guys are kind of You guys. are kind of cut from the same cloth. I. think. >> you have you have that.

>> I wish I had an ounce of that guy's. talent. Creativity. [laughter]. >> You do. You do too, Travis. There's like. kind of a there's a there's an alpha. quality, but there's just like a good. there's like a good time Charlie thing. built in kind of hardwired in in you. guys. And um but Jack is on a a whole. other level like when. >> he's on another stratosphere. I remember. seeing him. He his first movie was this. movie called Bob Roberts. >> Okay, >> this is in the '9s and I went to go see. it. It was a Tim Robbins movie and he. was just it was his first thing. He was.

like a small part, but I remember. vividly I'm like, "Who is that guy?". >> Cuz he was so. psycho and funny and and he he just. played a guy who was just really into. the politician, Bob Roberts. And um and. and uh God, a few weeks after I saw it, I had an audition and I went to this. audition. And there was like one other. guy in the waiting room waiting to. audition and it was him. And um I was. like, "Oh, I got completely starruck.".

I'm like, "Hey, man. Um I just saw Bob. Roberts. You're the guy from Bob. Roberts, right?" He's like, "Yep." And I. said, "You you were so funny in that.". Oh my god. And meanwhile, and I got. we're auditioning for the same part. There's no way I'm get close to this. thing. It's going to this talent. machine. Neither one of us got the part, BUT UH [laughter]. that was the first time that I met him. Yeah. And that was probably God, that. was 30 years ago. Yeah. >> He doesn't feel like he's changed.

either. He feels like he's the same guy, which is like impressive to like. maintain that level of energy throughout. your entire career. Like. >> it's really wild. I mean, we, you know, I to be with him and you're just kind of. like out in public. When people see him, they freak out. You know, it's like it's. like meeting a beetle or something. They're just. to see Jack Black out in the wild. And. everyone that kind of goes to over to. him and talks to him, he gives them a. Jack Black experience. He's just he just. he is he's just pure goodness and energy.

and um Yeah, I I'm I I love the guy. >> And it seems effortless, man. It just it. oozes out of him, man. It's so smooth. >> Yeah. And um and you know, I'm sure it's. like he's got insecurities or fears or. or self-conscious about what, but he. just you would never know if he does. He. just doesn't show it. He's just kind of. he really is about laughs and a good. time and and rocking and rocking hard.

cuz he's if he wasn't a he's a rock he. is a rock star. Laughs, a good time, and. rocking is what this movie does. And it. also gave us one of our new terms that I. had never heard. Uh, Buffalo Sober. Is. that a real ter is that Did you guys. invent that? >> Yeah, we're set. We live in Buffalo. Um, and Steve Zan uh plays guy who's maybe. maybe had wrestled with some demons, has. had some, [laughter] you know, it's a. good way to put it. >> He's decided to really he he's decided. to really clean up his act finally. And.

uh so I asked, "Are you sober?" And he. says, "Yes." Uh but he's he's buffalo. sober, which means just beer and wine. And maybe a few a few bites of the. liquor. >> Lighter lighter liquor. Real light. Not. all of them. >> Light liquors. >> I kind of want to go Buffalo sober. I'm. kind of in on the Buffalo sober. This. sounds great. >> We were driving the director at crazy. cuz every time we would do that scene, he goes, "Oh, Buffalo sober." And we. just keep going Buffalo sober in the.

heart of Matica. [laughter]. >> That's great. >> What would the equivalent to uh to. Kansas City sober be? What would that. be? >> Uh, Kansas City Sober. Uh, Just. Boulevard. [laughter]. >> Nice. Just Boulevard. Nice. And Reer. Just Boulevard. >> Just Boulevard. That's right. Only local. brews. >> Holy Lan. You can only have Reager when. you're eating barbecue. That's right. >> There you go. [laughter]. >> Jason, what do you got? Philly sober.

>> Oh, like there is such a thing. [laughter]. >> The citywide special, I think, is a shot. of Jim Beam and a PBR. A canned PBR. Delicious. get that anywhere in the. city. You used to be able to get that. for like a dollar or something like. that. Maybe it was two bucks. I don't. know if that's still out there, but that. was a citywide special for a long time. So, >> well, if you're looking to get out of a. hole in Philly, that's right. >> There you go. [laughter]. >> Or go into a hole. >> Yeah. >> Head over to Pats, Patraino's, Angelos's. gyms. >> There's a Tony is in there, too. There's. a Tony Luke's, I think it's called.

>> Tony Luke's. Yeah. I mean, pretty much. any Italian name and put cheese steak. after [laughter] it. was probably. choosing spot in Philadelphia. Yeah, we. did prep some questions for Jack. Do you. mind answering for him as him? >> Sure. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> All right. >> What was it like to work with Paul? >> He sucks. [laughter]. >> Perfect. All right. >> He's a real diva. >> Pain in the ass. >> Always checking his hair, making sure he. has the most lines. I hated him.

[laughter]. >> He actually wanted to play Doug. Did he. tell you that? >> Yeah, he tried to steal my car. [laughter]. >> So, uh, Jack, you went to high school. with Maya Rudolph. What was uh what was. that like growing up with Maya? >> It was uh it was in it was incredible. She was she was all over me AND. [laughter]. it was it was a little hard. She was. always funny. I always really liked her.

Uh I would I would always uh I think it. was that she would always hear me. singing Mini Ripperton songs. That. that's her mom. [laughter]. And uh because I'm such a great singer, uh I was always in key and I'd hit that. high C and uh I don't know, it triggered. something in her. [laughter] And uh so. she was just always. hanging around. It got awkward all. through our 20s, but [laughter] we're. good now. We're cool. >> Your parents uh Judith and Thomas were. actual rocket scientists. How did they.

react when you told them you wanted to. be an actor? >> They knew that I wasn't going to really. be able to do much of anything else. [laughter]. >> They were just happy to kind of get me. out of the house and focused on. something. Really, all I wanted to do. was uh play video games and listen to. Led Zeppelin and AC/DC in my room. So, when I said I wanted to do something, it. honestly, it's like I could have said I. wanted to be, you know, uh a tax. collector. I wanted to be a dog walker.

I want to be just saying, "Yeah, great. We support you. We get out. Get out. [laughter] of the house. We're rocket scientists for God's sake.". Obviously, these kinds of brains are not. genetic. [laughter]. >> That was [ __ ] perfect. Golly. The. funniest quote from my dad when I got. drafted was that. both my kids have a job. I've done my. part. [laughter].

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them from? Well, >> it's found wherever candy is sold. Literally, you can find it everywhere. I. >> think I called you Jason. Jason, Jason. All righty, Gillette. Thank you to our. partner Gillette. >> Oh, right. Now, Jason, you've been. retired for a full year. Uh, let's talk. pregame rituals. Do you miss them? Still. have them? I kind of have one, I guess, for Monday Night Countdown. Like, I kind. of I go do the uh production meeting, then I kind of iron out what's happening.

in the rundown, then I go to the makeup. lady, then I go to the hair, and uh then. I go on set. was just curious to see if. you were putting that same game day. energy into your uh new broadcasting. routine. That's all. >> Well, first and foremost, it includes. making sure that this beard is looking. real nice, which is finally starting to. show some of my grays again. >> after dying it. I'm getting those. natural colors back. >> Thank you. Thanks so much. Um but yeah, I have uh some some grooming individuals.

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>> Sold. Available now in 12 teams. including the Eagles and Chiefs. Get it. while you can at gillette.com/n. Gillette, the best a fan can get. >> All right. Now, next segment, we're. going to do a little does Paul know. ball, baby. >> Does Paul know ball? Our staff uh plays. a game which uh wastes a lot of their. time. It's called the NFL Perry pick. them. You'll be given teams at random. and have to select one player from the. team to add to a fantasy lineup. All.

right. So, you get points for their best. fantasy season. Um, and [clears throat]. the goal is to get the most points. possible. Make sense? >> No, I wasn't paying attention, but I'll. figure it out. >> Yeah. Basically, you just want to pick. the best fantasy lineup. >> Yeah, I got got you. Okay. >> Nice. >> So, you get you get quarterback, running. back, wide, two wide receivers, a tight. end, and two flexes. The Tampa Bay. Buccaneers. You can pick anybody from. their roster. >> Anybody. Okay. And then, so like if I. were. >> Oh, no, no, no, no. You just you just.

picked the team. I don't even know how. this goes. >> A quarterback a quarterback throughout. history from the Buccaneers. >> Correct. >> And so if I'm taking Tom Brady, the Pat. the Patriots stats don't count. It has. to be when he was with the Buccaneers. >> I think he might have had his best. season in Tampa Bay, though. >> I don't think that's true. >> Really? >> And then it's like. >> that's the name of the game. You got to. fight Des. [laughter]. You know, Doug Williams. Doug Williams. I don't know if any of those stats were. compiled for fantasy back in that day.

I'll go with um. >> you can also go running back, receiver, type. You can you go quarterback. >> You don't have to go. >> You can whatever like if there's a. better. >> Oh, I got you. Oh, it's not the whole. team. Oh, I see. >> I got you. >> Only offensive players though, so you. can't take that great defense. >> Um. >> they won the Super Bowl. >> Yeah. >> Oh, man. I'll go uh I'll go uh Mike. Evans for. >> There we go. Love it. Love it. >> Allnose ball.

>> New York football Giants. >> New York football Giants. >> Um, [snorts]. I'll go Giants. Uh, oh, there's no. defense in there, is there? >> No. >> Okay. Um, [snorts]. >> I know. I know who Travis would go. >> Who? Jeremy. Shocky. >> I love the Shocky, man. Shocky was my. guy. I knew you were going shocky. >> You might want to take a flex. >> Got OBJ in there. Of course.

>> OBJ. I like OBJ. >> I'm going to go OBJ in my flex. >> Odell Beckham Jr., baby. >> Early in prime. >> Indianapolis Colts. >> This is where This is where it gets. >> I'm going to go I'm going to go um Oh, man. [sighs and gasps]. >> What to do? I mean, here's where I'm way. I'm here's my I'm weigh in between Pton. Manning and Marvin Harrison. >> Yeah, >> it's tough. Payton did set the recording.

when he was in Denver. >> Take the quarterback when you can get. him. You don't want to be stuck all of a. sudden. Yeah, [laughter]. >> that's where you go. I like. >> Pton Manning. >> The Sheriff. >> The Sheriff. >> Seattle Seahawks. Uh, I'll go Sean. Alexander, running back. Ooh, great. pick. >> Yes, Paul knows those balls. >> Cardinals. I'm going to go Larry. Fitzgerald. >> LARRY [screaming] FITZ. >> YES. >> THE HARD and pride of the Big East.

>> Pittsburgh. [laughter]. >> Denver Broncos. >> Denver Broncos. Um, I will go uh Terrell Davis in that. last flex spot. >> Oo, TD. >> We're coming down to tight end. >> All right. Wouldn't it be all too. coincidental the Kansas City Chiefs. showed up? >> Oh, I I hope so, >> right? Cuz I got two great picks for that. >> Oh, there we go. You can go multiple go.

multiple directions in that. >> He's not. >> How is Terrell Davis not an option? >> Oh, it doesn't go back. Let's. >> They got a bunch of running backs there. You could go. >> Clinton Portoris. >> Portoris did have a some really. >> Payton Hillis. Oh, you could go uh you. could go tight end here. Tight end here. >> It was Payton Ellis had his big year in. uh Cleveland. >> He did. >> He did. He did. >> Yeah. >> Made the Madden cover. >> Got Shannon Sharp in there, too. Shannon. Sharp. >> Oh, man. >> You can always go.

>> Who? >> Shannon Sharp. Yeah, I call him Unk. Like my like my uncle. >> Oh, right. Right. Of course. Um I. [laughter] Clinton Poris. Clinton Poris. >> Clinton Poris. >> That's a solid That's a solid. >> Very very good pick. OH, PHILLY FOR TIGHT END, BABY. >> I mean, I think. >> there's always three choices. [laughter]. >> We got Chad Lewis. >> All these guys on team, baby. Exactly.

[laughter]. >> Oh, man. Good choice. I'm going. >> That's the right statistical choice. He. still has the record for alltime catches. as a tight end. >> This is a great team, >> dude. This is a solid fans. >> What is I don't even know what we're. looking at. What is Is that a good. score? >> Yeah. >> Oh, no ball. What was the score? What. was the score? >> 2,269.9. ball. OH NO. [screaming].

>> YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS? Here's here's the. thing. The flex. Those are the ones that. probably lowered me a little bit. >> Look at how much Poris and Odell got. you. >> That's a crazy amount. Yeah, >> like they were more than Mike Evans was, which is crazy to. >> crazy to even think about like that. >> So, it's only off of their best season. That's what is it looks like. It goes. off of one season. >> I was thinking about when also, you. know, Doug Martin had a really great. season at running back for in the for. the Bucks. >> Yeah. All right. Doug Martin had one for.

sure. Yeah, 100%. He was a [ __ ]. running through [ __ ]. >> I would have gone freaking uh uh Oh my. gosh. my all start. That was my freaking. I love. >> four baby a bowling ball. >> Just Yeah. [laughter] Might not might. not have had the fantasy points, but. >> he's not going to give me many points in. the game, but yeah, it'll be good. It's. awesome. >> What are these for? Intimidation. [laughter]. >> Well, Paul does indeed know ball. >> He does. He does. Well done, baby. >> Thanks, guys. >> And uh now we get to our last segment, but before we get you out of here, it's.

called We Got to Ask, brother. And it's. uh questions that we feel like we have. to ask you, and you can just either. answer them or tell us to [ __ ] off. All. right. >> As a brother and a Chiefs fan, I love. you. I'm sorry. But how are you feeling. as a Chiefs fan right now? >> Ah, I'm thinking about you, brother. Ah, >> I know you shot me the text. I. appreciate you, man. >> I am so happy to be a Chiefs fan. The. joy and the memories and everything that. the Chiefs have given me, with my. family, with my kid. Um, it's been an.

embarrassment of riches. And it's just. right now. And it's like this, you know. what? This wasn't the year, but that's. okay. I know it's tough. I'm excited for. whoever does it for their fan base that. they get to share the same kind of. things that I got to share with my son. the for all three of those victories. Um, and even the losses, you know, it's. it's the it's the best. So, I'm I'm. thinking about Patrick. I'm wishing him. a speedy recovery um and everything for.

the club. But I I'm okay. And I'm. excited. You know what? I'm excited for. uh some of the players to get maybe a. little bit of a summer vacation. I mean, my god, [laughter]. it's like you've you've played an extra. season of football compared to everyone. else. And so I'm like, oh, good. You get. a break and some a chance to kind of. rest up and so yeah, I'm not uh too too. upset. >> I appreciate you having that positive. mindset. The uh to Chief's Kingdom, baby, we uh we love you and we're we're.

always working our tail off for you. Obviously this year, man, all those. close. one point or one score games and stuff. like that just didn't end our way, man. But, uh, we're we're still rocking and. rolling, man. >> It's a I mean, it's a great team and, you know, you guys, it's it look, it's. it's tough. It's a tough thing to. sustain and sometimes something goes. your way. Sometimes you score a. touchdown and they call a phantom face. mask. >> Crazy. [laughter] Crazy. There's lots OF. THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS that happen and. it happens to every team, not just, you. know, but um it it's a it's a game of.

inches. It's all right, you know. >> We still got three coming though that. we're going to have some fun and make. sure that we represent everybody that uh. that that shows up every week like you. do. And um and yeah, we're going to. we're going to we're going to finish. this thing off the right way with some. integrity, baby. >> You're the best. >> One of your first jobs was as a bar. mitzvah DJ. >> Yeah. >> What was on the playlist? Uh, great question. I mean, you got. Shout from Animal House Classic. >> And and then there was also uh here we.

come now singing Mooney Mooney and then. all the kids there was a moment. [laughter]. >> and then they'd say get laid, GET. [ __ ]. all parents go what [applause]. did I just hear? >> [laughter]. >> There was. >> there was that. There was also uh can't. touch this. >> Oh, classic.

>> And then you got to sprinkle it on top. Round it out with a little I'm too sexy. for my shirt. >> Yeah. >> Well, right set Fred. >> What a misfoot, man. >> That is a heck of a playlist right. there. That'll get me going. >> You're getting You're getting us going. right now. >> That playlist will guarantee a mediocre. party. [laughter]. Oh gosh. [laughter]. Get laid. Get [ __ ]. >> That's hilarious.

[laughter]. >> Dude, you're in the upcoming Avenger. Doomsday. Yeah. >> Which is [ __ ] badass, man. Uh, we. don't want to get. >> We'll tell you everything. >> I was going to say we don't [laughter]. want to get you, but basically, can you. tell us the plot? >> Uh, I [laughter] I'll be honest. Yeah, I'm not really sure what it is. >> Perfect. All right. >> Listen, welcome to Hollywood, baby. That. we're [laughter] all just making it up. as we go. >> Is it true your character in Anchorman. named one of his testicles after the.

real life owner of Charb Bar in in. Kansas City? >> That's absolutely right. >> No [screaming]. way. [laughter]. >> Way to keep it home. So, so my uh my. left testicle, not my right one. >> Left, [laughter]. >> my left one is named James Westfall, who. also happened to be my roommate. [laughter] in college and. also my roommate. Yeah. And um so my. goal was that um I would say, you know,

name check him and then. >> he would just go see the movie and say, "What?" Oh, >> what? [laughter]. Just Oh yeah. The best now is like Yeah. He owns Char Bar as well as uh you know. Beer Kitchen like a few restaurants in. Kansas City. >> Awesome ones right there in Westport, man. They're awesome restaurants. >> Awesome restaurants. And by the way, the. burn ends at Charb Bar. >> Even the I like the wings, too. >> Oh, great. Great. Yeah, >> you're getting the whole wing.

>> And uh and so it's fun when he still, you know, has to do business with people. and and then he introduces his name. He's like, "I'm James Westfall." And he. said, "Sometimes there's like a just a. pause. >> and then some. um have you have you ever seen anchor. man?". >> And then he gets to say, "I have and I'm. the um actual ball. [laughter]. >> That's so [ __ ] good.". >> That's the most fun part of doing this.

is um embarrassing your friends by. naming your nut sack. [laughter]. That's why we do it. True friendship. right there, man. >> Absolutely classic. [laughter]. >> You own a candy store called Samuel's. Sweet Shop. >> Mhm. >> Um, give give us your Mount Rushmore. candy from that store. >> Ooh, that's a great question. So, uh, my. favorite candy, uh, is a seasonal candy.

that we have, although they've kind of. laid back in the last couple years, and. I haven't made them, but it's a sour. Santa. >> Um, sour sour sour Santa. It's like a. cherry sour candy. Um, but it's like the. perfect It's a gummy candy. >> Um, but it's it's like the perfect. consistency. Gummy candy can be, you. know, there's a wide range of like, you. know, it's the right firmness and all. that. And it's got, you know, the great. uh cherry taste, but with not with a.

nice after taste. That was my favorite. >> So, I go with I go with a sour Santa. We. do a thing called Cloud Hoppers, which. is like a peanut butter chocolate. pretzel mix uh that we put in these. bags. And. >> those are my two favorites. But we also. do these like licor licorice uh laces. and we'll do sour laces and um we do a. grape one that's really nice and then a. Yeah, I'd say the laces are are are put. those three. That's my that's my that's.

my rush more. >> So are you more of a sour guy or a sweet. guy? You're still a lot of sour. >> I like I like [ __ ] everything. So you. [laughter]. got I have like the tastes of a. 9year-old. I like uh [laughter]. I like little kid candy and I love. chocolate. Um and uh yeah, I like it. all. >> Were you a big Warhead fan growing up? >> I like Warheads. I like those. Yeah. When it's really really sour and put. them on your tongue, see how long you. can stand it. >> Make your eyes water. Challenge.

>> Yeah. All natural ingredients in. Warhead. People don't know that. UM. [laughter]. just a little bit of plutonium, hot. tamales, mices, spreeze. I liked all. that garbage. Bottle caps. That's an old. school. I like those. >> Sign me up. >> Do you have a welcome to Hollywood. moment, Paul? >> Yeah, I have a I have a a few. >> I don't know. Something that made you be. like, you know what? I'm I'm here. I'm. I'm in Hollywood. >> The very first week I got to um.

I got to California. I live in New York. now, but uh I went to an acting school. I went from KU to this acting school. And uh the first week I was there. >> um I I went I was at like some. restaurant and I saw an actor named. Courtney Gaines who was the redheaded. guy in Children of of the Corn. Children. for the Corn. >> Wow. [laughter]. >> And he was also in Hard Bodies. And his. big scene in Hard Bodies was he could. flip you off in 41 different languages.

I don't know why I remember that. >> That's amazing. And uh and I'm like, >> "Tell you, >> damn it, that's Courtney Gaines over. there." So it was like I knew I wasn't. in Kansas anymore. >> There you go, Dorothy. There it is. >> And then I got and then I got um I got. an audition, one of my very first very. first auditions. >> uh to play kind of like this tough dude. A and um I hadn't really been on an. audition before, but I heard this story. that when Danny DeVito.

uh auditioned for the role of Louis de. Palma in Taxi that he went into the room. with all the people and and said, "Who. wrote this?" And it was garbage. He. threw it down. He jumped on the table. He didn't really audition. He just was. the guy. And he was hilarious and they. all laughed. And I remember hearing that. going, "That's how you get that's how. you get a job. You don't do what you. want to do. you do what you And so I. went I went to this casting director's. office and it's just me and this woman, nice woman behind her desk and I'm.

[laughter] I'm like and she goes, "Hello." I go, "Yeah." I felt so. uncomfortable. I'm trying to be tough. [laughter]. And she said, "So, did you get the. pages?" "Uh-huh." "Um, and you've been. working on it." "Yeah." "Yeah." She's. like, "Okay. Uh, well, [laughter] start. whatever you want." And I I had a. cigarette. I didn't light it. I didn't. smoke either, but I had it as like a. prop. And then in the scene of And then. I I I threw it on the ground. I stubbed.

it out into her carpet. >> Oh my god. >> And it was over. She said, "Okay, thank. you." AND I LEFT [laughter]. >> AND I left and I was driving back and I. thought, "I'm not going to I'm not going. to get that job." And I had a a an. agent. It's like my first agent. And I. got back and she called me and she just. said, "What happened?" [laughter]. [screaming]. And I told her and she just said, "Well, I guess you've got to learn.".

[laughter]. That was kind of like a welcome to. Hollywood. This is not how you do it. >> That is incredible. >> I was driving back just picturing her or. her assistant. She's like pulling. tobacco out of the carpet. She's like, "What the [ __ ] just happened? This guy. JUST CAME IN HERE and threw a cigarette. He didn't read a single line. [laughter]. >> Oh man, my face [ __ ] hurts. God damn. it. That was gold. >> That was awesome. >> Tell the family we said merry Christmas.

and uh and and you know uh we'll keep. the the good fight going with the. Chiefs. But thank you for coming on and. everybody make sure you check out. Anaconda. theaters this Christmas. >> Thank you for having me back. I love you. guys. Happy uh holidays. Merry Christmas. to your families. Um, yeah, have a a. great rest of the season and and always. as always, I just want to say, you know, you guys support Children's Mercy. Hospital and Big Slick, the the event. that we do in Kansas City. You always. have, and you know,

>> you know how much Philadelph and Kansas. City love you guys. But they don't love. you just for the players you are. They. love you for the guys you are. You're. the best. I love you so much. Thanks. again for having me on your show. >> Love you, man. >> Complete honor. Thank you, brother. >> Love you, too. See you guys. That wraps up another episode of New. Heights. Thank you to Paul Red for. joining us. Reminder, if you haven't. checked out the latest episode of New. Heights Film Club that dropped last. Friday where we review Home Alone with. the one and only Kylie Kelsey, it is. available and out now, so go check it.

out. WE'VE ALSO GOT A FULL HOLIDAY. spectacular with Kylie Kelsey dropping. this Wednesday on Christmas Eve. Don't. miss that. Make sure you subscribe to. the New Heights channel on YouTube and. follow New Heights on the wonder. wherever you get your podcast. to listen. to new episodes of New Heights ad free. right now by joining Wonder Plus and. Wonder Apple or on Apple Podcast. Man, that was a lot for Jason right there. I'll close it out with a little shorter. segment here. Once again, New Heights at. Wonder Show. Follow the show on all. social media at New Heights Show with. one for fun clips throughout the week of.

this amazing episode with Paul Rudd. Thank you to Paul Rudd and happy. Hanukkah. Sorry, I wish you a merry. Christmas. Um, thanks to all the new. heights production team and thank you to. you 92enters. Hope you guys have a happy. holidays. Uh whether it's Christmas, Hanukkah, Quanza, um or you're just. celebrating that you love people around. this time of the year. [music].

>> It's really only their best season and. it's all like. >> it's their best season ever with that. team. >> and for with fantasy touchdowns count. for more. >> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. >> Typically like I mean that all it all. definitely counts. Like. >> All right, Jason. Give it a whirl. Give. it a whirl. Give it a whirl. I'll hit. restart for you. >> Jaguars. >> There's only one. There's only one. >> and you got to take them. >> Blake Bortals. >> Blake Blake Bortals.

Um. gosh dang. I mean I feel like you got to. take Fred Taylor, right? Like I don't. know who else. >> I mean you can. >> Maurice Jones Drew. Trying to think of. who else with the Jaguars, >> Fernet, ETN, Bsby, QBs. You got Bortles, Bernell, Gerard, Lawrence. >> I'm not taking any of the I'm not taking.

any of the QBs. >> Okay, [gasps]. >> go to receivers. You also can skip one team. >> You can skip a team. I'm skipping the. Jaguars. Let's go. >> Okay, skip. >> That wasn't very smart. Maurice Jones. drew. nuts as a flex. >> Chargers. >> LT. >> Does that count even though it's.

>> Do you want to do a running back? >> No, it 100% counts. >> All right, I'll go LT. I don't know that. it matters, right? >> LT is one of the best picks. >> LT is the greatest pick you could have. ever got. >> He's [laughter] a good scoreer. All. right. >> Um, >> Dolphins, can I go Dan Marino or is that. pre It's too old. >> Too old. >> All right. Um, >> it's. >> uh. >> I don't know how you're even still. thinking about this. >> How I'm thinking about it? >> Jason doesn't know ball. >> I don't know ball. [laughter].

I mean, is it uh Let me see. Keep keep. going. >> Uh, >> yeah. >> What are you waiting on? Larry Zanka to. show up. [laughter]. >> I'm trying to think. I mean, feel like Ricky's better years were in. New Orleans. Um, >> you're in the wrong. >> I mean, if I'll go receiver, I feel like.

uh. um. I feel like Tyreek had an incredible. year. I don't know that. >> Yes. >> All right, fine. Tyreek Hill and. Absolutely. He had 2,000 yards, I think. >> Yeah, but I mean, does he have a lot of. touchdowns? It's all about touchdowns. >> Good pick. 376. It's he Yeah. >> All right. Buffalo Bills. >> There's one here. >> This is You probably should. >> I mean, do I go to the quarterback right. away? Yo, Josh. Nice. I've. >> Josh has got a bunch of rushing and.

throwing touchdown. Lot of. >> touchdown. You're right. You said it. best. You said it best. Take the take. the. >> It's either It's either Josh or you wait. for like Lamar or Jay. Even Jaylen with. how many rushing touchdowns he has from. the Tushbush and everything like that. Or like a Cam Newton. >> Mhm. [clears throat]. >> Okay, Cam. >> But Buffalo, >> do you want to see your options at Flex. here? >> Yeah. Let me see. I like the I that's. kind of a cheat that you can see the. names I feel like. But I'm definitely. going to look at these. Yeah. >> Stefon Diggs. He had a great year with.

him. Couple years. >> Should I go Lean? Um. I'll go Josh Allen just because I don't. want to get stuck with a bad quarterback. and I feel like it's easier to fill out. these. >> Josh is a good one. That's a good one. >> 400. Oh boy, >> man. Yeah. >> No, there's one. There's We know the. answer. >> I'm gonna go with Curtis Martin in the. flex. >> Well, I don't know who else would there.

really would be. All right. Rams. >> Rams. [sighs]. >> There's a good one here. >> Tory. I mean, I feel like it's got to be. Tory Halt. Um, is it Tory or Helen? Isaac Bruce, Tori were the two in the. >> greatest show on turf. I'm begging you. >> Oh, wow. Wow. >> Tory. Gosh.

>> Are you serious? >> Um, you're begging me. What do you. >> There's There's one that should jump. >> Oh, Marshall Faulk. Marshall F. >> Yeah. >> Bucks. Dude, he's. >> Bucks. Wide receiver, tight end. [sighs]. [ __ ]. >> [snorts]. >> your receivers. >> Let me see these tight ends. >> Big Bob run. >> I mean,

>> yeah, Rob, he didn't have great. >> He didn't have great ears there. >> Kellen Winslow. [sighs]. >> I just don't know. >> You're going to have to. >> What's an easier one to find at this. next team? Tight end's always the tough. one to leave for the last if I'm being. honest. >> Yeah, but I feel like it scores the. least amount of points no matter what. So, >> it does. Yeah, there's only there's like. >> Yeah, it's like Tony Gonzalez, Travis. Kelce, Rob Gonowski, the Pat like it's a.

very finite amount of teams that are. going to get you points. >> Um. I will go. go down again. Listen, these guys, I mean, it's got to be I'll go Mike. Evans. >> Not bad. >> Yeah. >> Bengals. >> [ __ ] my life. Not good. [sighs] I.

>> You beat Paul. New high score. There you. go. >> New high score. >> New high score. First time.