Patrick Mahomes' Return, NFL Season Preview & Michigan Clock Debacle with Jon Ferrari | EP 200

Think about this, John. Think about. this. Blindside blocks are more. protected than receivers going over the. middle. Yes. >> In other words, if a receiver's coming. over the middle, I can lay into him as. hard as I want as long as I don't hit. his head. >> Head. Yeah. No head in the middle. >> And I don't lead with my HEAD ON A BLIND. SIDE BLOCK. I LITERALLY HAVE TO GO WITH. HANDS. WHY ARE WE PLAYING PATTY CAKE? WHY THE CAN'T I JUST CLEAN THIS DUDE'S. CLOCK? I THOUGHT WE WERE PLAYING. FOOTBALL, JOHN.

WELCOME BACK to New Heights, ladies and. gentlemen, boys and girls. A wonderry. show brought to you by Reese's. That's. right. We're your host. I'm Travis Cous. Is my big brother Jason Kel of Cleveland. Heights, Ohio. Shout out to the Heights. and shout out to the Bearcats. We're. going 1 and0. We uh just got done. I'm. sure we'll talk about it. Taking our. talents back to uh Nippert Stadium for a. day and that was pretty fun. Follow the. show on all social media at New Heights. Show with 1S for fun clips throughout. the week. And Jason, why don't you tell. the people uh what's coming up for this. episode? >> Sure. TRAVIS, 92 PERCENTERS, WE GOT A.

GREAT EPISODE GEARED UP FOR YOU RIGHT. NOW. WE'RE GOING TO BREAK DOWN ALL OF. WEEK ONE THIS WEEK in the NFL. Going to. talk about heading back to Cincinnati. We're going to be joined by our first. ever New Heights senior correspondent uh. who will give us the scoop in his area. of expertise, which is officiating. Let's dive into that right now. Let's. start with some of that. News. >> New news. >> New news is brought to you by Xfinity. And the newest news, Travis, is that new.

heights turns 200. >> Dude, we're What is that? Bsentennial. >> Yes, that's correct. >> How about that, man? >> I know. >> They're letting us do this for 200 full. episodes and we haven't gotten cancelled. yet. We got a good team. We got to keep. the team tight. >> Cancel myself. >> Keep the team tight. >> Yeah. Well, how about it? Are we doing. anything for uh our official 200th. episode? >> Well, actually uh funny you say that. Uh. Jake put this out on social as well as.

Brandon. >> That's right. Jake and Brandon still. working. >> Well, this is pre-baby. Pre-baby. This. was when he was working. Now he is. >> at home watching that baby and mama like. he should be. >> Like he should be. >> Um. >> great delivery. >> That's right. Anyways, so take a look at. this list. 92 top moments from our. show's past. All voted on and submitted. by you all. >> It was not voted on.

>> There was some type of. What happened? How did you make number. one, number two, number three? >> They put this They just put this. together. >> There's no way. There's no way they put. that together without putting Taylor. >> said this. >> I'm dead serious. We We It's We made it. up. Those of us who made the 92 moments made. it up. It's a preseason list people to. argue about. If you want more detail, we. did record. >> So, Brandon, these are your favorite top. these are your these are just your. favorite moments. >> We fought about some. We did fight about. some. I think they hold up. There's.

there was a reason behind all of them. If you want the reason we did record uh. audio only podcast you can listen to. where we explain these. >> No, no, no. You're good. You're good. I. think that the millions of views episode. that uh broke the internet quite. literally probably should be number one. >> It's tough. Well, do you want the. reason? Do you want the reason? I think. it's tough. >> Sure. Give me your [ __ ] reason, Brandon. being a I I think the moment in season.

one of you guys being the first brothers. to play in the Super Bowl and having to. then record a podcast about it is. something that. >> genuinely will not happen again. To me, that was like. >> defining moment of the show. >> And yeah, I'm not going to sit here and. tell you that Taylor is not the most. popular goddamn thing we've ever done. I'm not saying that. >> When When do you think When do you think. it's going to happen again, Brandon? where somebody uh professes his love for. the most popular person on the planet. and then they END UP ACTUALLY starting.

to date and then they end up coming out. releasing their album a year after that. When do you think that's going to happen. again, Brandon? >> Lot of athletes got podcast now. I don't. know. >> THERE'S ONLY ONE TAYLOR SWIFT. >> We're going to need a stadium tour. We're going to need someone. >> It could happen. >> Goes to the stadium tour and podcast. >> Yeah. >> Denied elevator access and then gets mad. about it. takes it out on an ad read. >> And I'll throw Kylie up there, too. Kylie should be above the other. It. should be It should be Taylor. It should. be Taylor first and then Kylie because.

Kylie's episode then she launched her. other podcast and then that's launched. into a whole [ __ ] thing. Those two. moments were. better. This is why you made. this list. >> could have been better. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It's fine. Argue about it. Get in the. comments. Yell at me. That's fine. I. don't read them anyways. >> What's the last one? What's the What's. the 92nd? The one that stuck on there, Ed Kelsey on child abductions. >> All right, >> if we're being honest, that should be. high.

>> Nice. All right. Well, there we go. >> Other new news. Shout out to Payton and. Eli for having us help launch this. season of the Manning Cast, >> dude. >> Commercial just launched. It's online. I. did. I did. I did see it. A. >> It's so good. It's too long for us to. show the entire thing. It's about. >> 20 minute 15 20 minutes. It's so [ __ ]. good though, man. They never miss. It. was an honor to be uh some of the NFL. brothers to uh come in and uh make that. thing pop. >> I wish we would have gone back and forth. more like uh the Harbaugh brothers were. going back and forth.

>> They should we should have they they. killed it. We should have been doing a. little bit more of that. But either way, it's out now. Check it out on social. And more importantly, check out the. Manny Cast this year on Mondays. You're. going to love it. >> All right. Now, >> uh the Manny's aren't the only ones. broadcasting games this year. Trav. Uh, I will be broadcasting four games this. year with my friends Kurt Warner and. Dave Pash. >> Dude, Kurt Warner. >> That's right. Kurt. Yep. The, uh, orchestrator of the greatest show on. turf. >> [ __ ] cool. >> Hall of Fame quarterback. Uh, and even. so far, he's been nothing but helpful.

You know, am so honored to just be in a. booth and to learn from these guys. Um. because I really we did a test run down. in uh Houston and it was every bit as. challenging as I expected it was going. to be and I just Kurt has been so. helpful. So is Dave. Um but excited to. go over there and be overseas with those. guys and call a few games this year. No, no doubt about it. Um and we got some. great games. Got some great games. >> Yeah, you do. You got a a little Eagles.

Jaguars out in London. Uh, week five. Week four, you got another London game, Colts versus Commanders. Um, week seven, you got Steelers and Saints in Paris. Petty, >> right? >> First game in Paris. >> First game in Paris. Kylie speaks. French. Hopefully, she can come along. and translate for me. >> Um, >> let's go. And then week 16 is to be. determined. >> Yeah, that'll be a flex game on a. Saturday. >> Nice. Well, never say never. See if I'll. get flexed. >> That'd be great. Did you request the.

international games on purpose or was. that uh just the uh the ones. >> I mean that was what was available. right? >> Yeah. So ESPN bought NFL Network so now. that NFL Network package that used to be. or still is with them now ESPN is kind. of handling. So yeah I mean that was. kind of the opportunity there. I mean. they're not adding Actually they took. away Monday night games. There's no more. double headers on Monday night so it's. only one game every Monday night which I. think is the right move. The double. headers were fun, too, but. >> it feels like Monday night should be a.

standalone game. >> Now, I'm never gonna complain about a. lot of football, man. But it it feels. like it took a little bit of the magic. out of like the one game you get to see. on Monday night. The one game you get to. play in on Monday night. Like, let let. the let the show be the show, man. When. the lights are on, baby, >> there's nothing like playing on Monday. night, man. >> So, yeah, ESPN took away some of the. games in that regard. So, obviously. they're working with the new NFL uh. network games. Listen, man, I've always. been curious what it's like up there in. the booth. Seems like a lot of fun.

>> Oh, yeah. >> And thankfully, they're not putting me, you know, I got some help. I got some. seasoned veterans up there with me. >> I was going to say, yeah, you got a good. crew. >> cuz I am very much a rookie. >> Turn the lights on, man. You'll see that. that blinking red dot, man. You know. you're alive. And go out there and have. some fun, dude. >> Start going. All right. Now, well, that's it for new news brought to you by. Xfinity. Let's get into some bold. topics. Bold topics is brought to you by. NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. How. about it? It's kickoff week, baby. And.

football is officially back. >> Yes, it is. Not only we kicking OFF, WE'RE KICKING OFF MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL. with the KELSEY BROTHERS. THE BRONCOS. TAKE ON THE CHIEFS. And I'm going to be. in the house to watch it all happen. Um. Tra, how's it feel going into season 14? >> Done. I'm fired the [ __ ] up right now. There's nothing better, man, than the. feeling you get going into week one. You. get a fresh start, especially if you got. a sour taste in your mouth from last. year. It it you get a fresh start with a.

new team. Everybody's healthy. Everybody's ready to [ __ ] rock and. roll. Um there's a lot of juice in the. building right now, man. And uh we're. excited to get after it on Monday night. >> Is it better or worse to start off on. the national stage, >> man? Give me the [ __ ] lights, man. >> Yeah. >> Put me under the lights, dog. every. game. I [ __ ] love it, man. There's. nothing better than prime time football. The magic is in the air. You feel how. how intense the game is, especially if. it's a divisional game. Everything's. everything matters a little bit more. The team knows you a little bit more.

You got to be more dialed in. Um and uh. I know Shawn Peyton's got those those. guys fired up and ready to rock and. roll, too. So, I'm looking to, you know, get after it, baby. >> Well, it is not without change. Obviously, the Kansas City Chiefs have. had a lot of continuity over the last, I. don't know, seven, eight years, whatever. you want to call it. Um, Andy Reed still. at the helm, but Eric Benemy is back as. the offensive coordinator. Pat Mahomes. is back from his ACL injury. We have. some new guys out wide, new running. back. Where do you guys feel as an.

offense and how you've gone through this. whole off season and where you guys are. at heading into a game against who. probably a team that probably was the. best team in the AFC last year. Not. throwing shade at New England, but if. Bicks doesn't get hurt, I have a feeling. they might find their way into the Super. Bowl last season. >> I hear you. And you were talking about. continuity from over the years. Well, one thing we have new this year is a guy. named Kenneth Walker. might have heard. of him winning the Super Bowl last year. and uh winning the Super Bowl MVP last.

year and uh. >> it's gonna be exciting to see Arrow. Arrowhead get to see that guy. It's. definitely been a different feel this. offseason from from everything that. happened last year, who who we brought. in um and how we've reshaped this. organization from the inside. I think. it's it's like I said, I keep saying. exciting, man. I I cannot wait to get. out there and show everybody what we've. been working on and especially uh you. know getting out there and see Kenneth. Walker in a Chiefs jersey. Man, that. dude is an absolute beast and uh I think.

we'll be handing the ball off to him. quite a bit. >> Walker is a bit thicker than I remember. than I than I thought. >> Dude, watching him in Seattle and then. seeing him in person and thicker in a. good way. like enormous thighs, a big. old BBL on the back side of it. Like. he's got some girth to him that's got. some ability to sustain. Bill Bill Bich, he knows. Good way to check it out. You. got to check out that rear end on guys. that that will tell you a lot.

>> Unless you look at Jason Kelsey, then. don't don't get judge me too hard. you know, in Seattle heading into the. playoffs when Charminate went down. I. was curious to see how he was going to. do as a featured back with a bigger. workload because he seemed like more of. like that like scat back quick explosive. playmaker, but then you watched him play. all play, man, this guy's like running. through dudes. Yeah. Like he is a strong. >> player. So K9's the real deal, man. He's.

uh and he's not not only is he the the. the type of athlete that you want, but. it's in type in terms of the mentality. and being a teammate and I mean he. checks all the boxes, man. It's just. he's he's one of the best in the league. right now. And he uh and he got. compensated uh deservingly so in the. offseason because of the hard work he's. put in and how he's conducted himself as. a professional knowing about the. situation that was in Seattle and that's. why he was ready to just step in. whenever his number was called. >> Yeah. >> So, we're excited to have him as a. chief. You guys got a new running back,

receiver, lot of, you know, we got. Worthy coming back, Rashi Rice. What is. the deal with Cyrus Allen, though? I. want I want to talk about the Bearcat. grad, >> Cyrus, baby. >> Lot of noise coming out of camp that. he's been looking really good. What What. kind of uh playmaking ability and what. do what will he bring to the offense, you think? You know, I think right now. it's uh we got a stacked stacked wide. receiver room and I know uh I know. Xavier Worthy is taking that next step. Rasheed Rice has been proven in this.

offense. Um and he's he's looking just. as prime and as ready as he's ever been. >> Um and then Taekwon Thornton's a a tall. uh pass receiver downfield that made a. lot of huge plays for us last year. >> Not about him. Yeah. and and you know. there's there's a handful of others like. uh like Nico and Jaylen Moore that I. mean I could go on but I think uh what. what you're alluding to is the the. excitement you saw through or heard. through camp his playmaking ability the.

preseason catches he's had he's got a. lot of explosiveness in terms of his his. playmaking ability and um he's got a. savviness to his routes uh that you just. can't teach. You know, some guys just. have a good feel for it and he's one of. those guys, man. Well, uh, the biggest. news I think that everybody's going to. want to talk before the game, Pat. Mahomes is officially back from his ACL. injury only nine months ago. There's a. lot of questions on whether Pat would be. able to get back in in terms of playing. for this game. He will be out there. We.

are going to see the best quarterback in. the NFL play this Monday. What version. are we going to see? A big part of Pat's. game is his ability to create. And. that's one of the reasons you guys have. been so good is off the schedule. You. know, play breaks down. He'll he'll. scramble around. He'll run it. He'll. find you. He'll find somebody. Like. that's been one of the really explosive. areas of his game. Is that still there? Do you see that in practice? >> I mean I mean I'm not going to tell you. what I'm seeing in practice, but what.

I've seen is a guy do everything he. possibly can to be ready for week one. What he's done to get to this point is. second to none. And uh you saw that. switch flip when he when he had the. surgery of how he was going to be. determined to get healthy uh for the. season. And um we're excited that he's. he's going to be out there rocking with. us on week one, you know, in terms of. his ability to move around and stuff. like that. He's a competitor, man. And. he only knows one way to play the game. When that ball snap, I I expect to just. see Patty Mahomes out there playing. football.

>> Yeah. The one thing that I think so if. I'm being like very honest, part of me. thinks back to Carson Wentz and when. Carson went down with the ACL injury, he. wasn't the same in that regard of. creating and figuring things out off. schedule and outside the pocket. The. difference I think with Pat, it's I just. that dude seems to just find a way like. no matter what it is and that's just one. of the ways that he does it. And if. that's not there, he just seems to me. like the type of guy that has that it. factor that he's gonna find another way.

to do it. >> There's just a competitive edge to him, man. He he understands the game to a. certain degree, man. If one thing. doesn't work, he has the ability to. tweak how he's playing or tweak what. he's doing uh to still get that same. success and uh that's why we love him, man. >> Huge division implications at play. That. one is going to be fun to watch. Good. luck, Trav. See you on Monday. Thank you to our presenting sponsor, Reese's. >> The Chocolatey Peanut Butter's back. And. quick question. Uh, when teams travel.

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now. Uh what do you what do you want to. see the Eagles offense go out there and. do immediately? What do I want to see. them do? I mean, I want to see him score. touchdowns. I want to see him do. >> Yeah, but let's get a little bit more. Let's dissect a little bit more. >> I'm really looking forward to seeing. what the new offense is going to look. like. I don't think we've not only do I. not think they've flat out said they. have not shown what this offense is. going to look like yet in the preseason. Um, you know, we know what this looks. like in the McVey Shanahan tree with the.

under, the motions, uh, the outside. zones paired with the boots paired with. the drop back play actions, paired with. the screens, how it all looks similar, how they build leverage and angles in. the run game and in the passing game. I. always have enjoyed watching these. offenses on other teams. Uh, very much. looking forward to seeing what these. guys look like this Sunday against the. Commanders. There's a lot of new on both. sides of the ball. Eagles obviously new. offensive coordinator. First time. Jaylen's ever run a system like this.

First time this team has done something. like this offensively. Pretty much the. exact same thing's happening over in. Washington. They just hired a new. offensive coordinator, David Blah, who's. also in this background. So obviously. Jaden Daniels has done a lot of the. college, no huddle spread, RPO zone read. offense to this point in his career with. Cliff Kingsbury. Now all of a sudden. they're going to be doing this as well. He's going to be more in the center. So, we're going to see both offenses doing. similar changes, and it'll be. interesting to see how much they change, how much they kind of keep some.

semblance of what they did, or is it all. going to be brand new? And it's going to. be interesting watching both of those. teams. Obviously, Washington had a ton. of injuries last year. Jane Daniels was. hurt for a very large portion of it. So. was McLaren. So, it's going to be. uh it's going to be interesting to see. what they look like as well offensively. And then for us going up against uh. going up against Washington's defense, they're not even going to be this Dan. Quinn defense. Dan Quinn comes from the.

Pete Carroll cover three. Not a whole. lot of variety, right? They're going to. play a four down front. It's going to. be, you know, pretty much cover three. all day. Like that's what they do. They. live in it and they know where their. weaknesses are and they adjust. accordingly. Quinn had started to adjust. a little bit when he was in Dallas where. he started blitzing a little bit more, playing more cover one, trying to throw. teams off. Now it appears that they're. going to be pretty much running. Minnesota's defense under Brian Flores. They hired Donte Jones, who's from the.

Brian Flores tree. Couldn't be more. different. Way more middlefield open, too high shell looking defenses. They. pressure at an absurd rate, but they. play palms and quarters behind it. So, this is going to be a way different. looking commanders team, and I'm looking. forward to see what that looks like, how. well they execute that. I mean, it's. it's been highly successful in. Minnesota. I do think you got to have. some guys at linebacker to make that. system work.

>> Drafted one. >> That's right. So, like Brian Flores from. the New England tree in New England, they had the the Jamie Collins, High. Tower, all these guys that could be on. the line of scrimmage and physical and. holding down a point. They could be off. ball and coverage. It was It allows them to be multiple. And even though it's a different thing. that they're doing in Minnesota than. what they ever did in New England, they. like that versatility still. You got a. guy like Van Ginkle up in Minnesota who. brings a lot of value. Ivan Pace Jr., another Cincinnati guy I think has been.

a good piece for them throughout the. last couple years. It doesn't surprise. me they go out with the seventh pick. overall and get Styles from Georgia. those guys because they have to operate. in so much space when they do pressure. and play an umbrella on top. They have. to they have a lot of room to roam in. that middle ground of coverage. And then. on top of that, they got to be able to. hold up against offensive linemen in the. run game if they're going to mug all. these guys up. So, I can't wait to see. what all this looks like. It's a lot of. creative. It's a lot of creativeness and.

new things that are trending in the NFL. How well do these teams incorporate. them? And then obviously I mean. Philadelphia Eagles their front how they. Washington's already banged up right. they're missing Laramie Tonsel Aligretti. our guy Aliggreddy from. >> Nikki Aligretti. >> he's been hurt for a lot of the. preseason he's coming back for this one. it sounds like they're already banged up. I mean this is what we've been waiting. for Philadelphia's been waiting to see. what this offense is actually going to. look like what Jaylen Herz is going to.

look like. How Saquon Barkley is going. to do in this operation. and we're going. to get our first taste of it this week. I never liked playing new coordinators. week one. Like if I had my choice, I. would rather have a coordinator that we. had tape on the previous year. When. you're facing new guys, it's like, you. know, what exactly are they going to do? It's a little bit more unsure. It's a. lot more of Yeah. adjustments and and. figuring out what they're what they're. going to do in the drives. But I mean,

and that and that's the thing. If you if. you look at what Dan Quinn's done a lot. in the past, doesn't matter if he's a. new coordinator at another team, you. know, you typically have got a good. understanding of just his track record, right? >> But with uh Donte Jones not necessarily. being a Dcoordinator in Minnesota or. >> um just coming in and kind of being a. fresh face with Dan Quinn, I think it's. going to be interesting. It's going to. be interesting to see how it all. unfolds. And you know, uh, the good. thing about this Philly offense is it's. it's good verse all, man. You got.

[ __ ] ball players, man. >> You do got playmakers. >> You got you got ball players. You got, uh, Jaylen, Squan, man. If they come out. running that running the ball and. getting downhill, >> I can see I can see them, uh, handling. this game, uh, willingly. Man, >> one thing I'm going to be looking at, and I think if you're watching the game, go ahead and take a look at it, you're. going to see some exotic looks. If this. is at all like Brian Flores, there's. going to be some exotic things early. And that's one thing I always felt like. when we played, Brian, there was going.

to be six or seven looks for the game. that were going to be give you issues. early. But if you were able to, you. know, kind of remember these and kind of. log them, you'd start to see them repeat. themselves. And then as the game went, it was like, "Oh, here comes this one. Here comes this one." And if you're not. ready for it, it can be overwhelming. But, um, I'm going to be looking to see. if that pattern holds up. >> Well, uh, good luck to the Eagles and, you know, good luck to the Commanders. and good luck to everybody else in the. [ __ ] league. >> Well, we're about to get to the rest of.

the league. Outside of the Eagles, we do. have week one coming up. Lot of lot of. exciting storylines to keep your eye on. Here's some of our favorites. Trav, what. are you looking forward to watching in. week one? Outside of Chiefs, Eagles, I. will say um even though they're in the. division, I am intrigued uh to see how. the entire AFC West offenses look. I. think uh you know, the quarterback. situation in Las Vegas. Um Herbert.

taking another step. Um I think uh Bo. Nicks in the gang. I I'm just interested. to see see what my division uh has to. offer in terms of uh firepower, man. >> Same. I I'm the Chargers are one of the. teams I'm looking forward to watching. the most. Mike McDaniel I think is one. of the best schemers. Like obviously it. didn't work out in Miami as a head. coach, but if you watch the scheme that. they implemented every Sunday, there was. some really creative unique blocking. schemes, the way they utilize motions, the way they would throw these like.

screens kind of out to the flat but with. route concepts downfield. Like I really. am excited to see what this looks like. in LA. really excited to see AFC North. I mean, we grew up in the AFC North. Not. so much excited to watch Cleveland, to. be honest with you. Like, I hope they do. well. I'm always excited to watch the. Browns, but I did. I think Baltimore is. going to make a major comeback with. Jesse Mener. I think that just starting. with something fresh. They were ravaged. by injuries last year, which derailed. that season. >> in itself.

I think Miner is doing a lot of creative. things defensively and is bringing some. forward thinking to fronts and coverages. and blitzes and I mean you watch the. preseason game that they did against the. Eagles. They were doing he did a. simulated overload front pressure in a. preseason game. I can't wait to see what. this guy has in store for the regular. season. Um and on top of that they got. Lamar coming back and then Joe Burrow. I. mean, you I'm always excited to watch. Joey B play with Higgins and u Jamar.

Chase. >> NFC West, baby. We got a a good one. early over there down under um with the. Niners and the Rams. Uh obviously the. Rams, all the moves they made uh or the. big move they made. Um and then uh. seeing where the 49ers are right now and. uh how great they've been in years past. Um you know, that division is just it's. packed with the Seahawks too making, you. know, defending their title. Um, I'm. interested to see just how how. competitive uh each game is over there. >> I had the Rams down as another.

storyline. Just obviously everything. with Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett uh. which we have found out Aaron is not. playing week one. Travis, that's. correct. >> Correct. That's where I just. >> he's not traveling. So, you know, we'll. have to wait another week to see what. that looks like with him and Miles on. the field at the same time, which is an. offensive lineman. I can't wait to see. what teams do to try and mitigate the. chaosness that's going to be up front. for them. I can't wait to see how they. on uh on the defensive side.

try and prevent teams from doubling and. sliding and doing all these things. What. are they doing to try and protect the. players? Um but I'm also always fired up. to watch the Rams. The Seahawks were. awesome to watch last year on defense. I. really like the way they play. Leonard. Williams just got a brand new contract. Outstanding player. >> Lost some pieces on the defensive side. So, it's going to be intriguing to see. how they fill those roles. >> They still got that big pterodactyl at. nickel. What's his name? Uh. >> I forget his name, too.

>> Uh it's like Warrior or whatever. Uh. gosh, that guy [ __ ] wrecks havoc, man. >> The nickel position has turned into such. like a crucial piece on defense now. I. mean, if you look what Mentor did with. uh Derwin James, he's got another one. another kind of big safety like that in. Kyle Hamilton who can come down and play. that nickel position or you know, however they run their their, you know, personnels out there. Somebody that can. play in the box and play free. >> Yeah. If you look at the best defense in. the NFL right now, I think that you the.

common denominator is they have a guy. that plays that position, can play the. run really well, can match up with. anybody in the pass game. like there. it's a spot that has turned into one of. the most valuable on the team, right? You got Petri in Houston, Cooper Deene. in Philadelphia, uh Hamilton in. Baltimore. Should I say I'm looking. forward to seeing what Dallas looks. like? >> I will. I. >> mean, I am. I'm looking forward to. seeing what it looks I mean, offensively, they're already they're. loaded. >> They are [ __ ] loaded, >> dude. They made no off offensive. acquisitions this off season. every.

draft pick, every free agent, it's like. 30ome players, new all defensive guys. >> Looks like the old head ball coach uh. said, "I'm good on offense, baby. I'm. >> glad that y'all get that [ __ ] figured. out over there." Uh we're we're rolling. >> It is insane. I've never seen anything. like that. >> I mean, the biggest thing is they they. they found a way to get Pickkins back. I. think whether it's franchise or whatever. it was, I think you got to do it. You. get that two-headed monster outside the.

numbers, man. Um, with a good run game, Dax's gonna figure some [ __ ] out. Yeah. All righty, that wraps it up for Bold. Topics. Bold Topics once again was. brought to you by NFL Sunday Ticket on. YouTube TV. >> How about it? All righty. We got Out of. the House this weekend. Out of the house. is brought to you by Expedia. We went. back to a UC game. Connor Bwin and Brent. Celich joined us as well as Kylie for. the Bearcats taking on Boston College. >> Well, the real reason we went back was.

Jason got inducted to the Hall of Fame. and uh and I wanted to make sure I was. there for my big brother and uh sure. enough, it was uh it was a nice old. Cincinnati ass whooping. That's right. We've been we've been pretty good on. opening day. Um better in the start of. the season than at the end. But um. Jason, how'd you uh how how'd you enjoy. getting back? Well, first of all, I'll. preface it with I I think the induction. ceremony is still in October. So, this. was just going to the game where they're. kind of honoring us and saying that. Connor and I are being inducted in this.

year's class along with Bob Huggin will. also be inducted this year in the. Bearcats Hall of Fame. Um, we got to see. the new facilities that they just built. for the football team. And. >> shout out to Larry Shakeley. >> That's right. That's right. Uh, and it. was incredible to see how much has. changed. Every time I go back, it. doesn't I mean, the campus looks the. same in a lot of ways, but it it's been. incredible how much they continue to. change and continue to move forward. Um, you know, there's a lot going on in. higher education right now. I mean, not.

just football. Football has all this NIL. stuff. Everything happening on that. front. There's also, you know, colleges. are closing left and right. Not so much. the big schools, but like Kylie's. college and Cababrini isn't there. anymore. Kids are starting to weigh like. the expense of going to college and all. of these different factors. So, it's just an interesting time at. that level. And I really enjoyed uh. talking to President Neville. I really. enjoyed seeing all the good things that. UC is doing and continuing to do to move.

forward. >> That's the thing, man. How much has. grown in just in terms of the the kids. there were I think there was close to 25. or 30,000 when we were there and now. it's all the way it's it's over 50,000. which is insane. Something that was. really cool they offered this year was. any in-state kid that qualifies to get. into Cincinnati whose parents make less. than 75,000 doesn't pay for school. And. I'm just I I feel like they're. continuing to push forward into this. making UC a viable option for kids from.

all walks of lives who can afford it and. having job opportunities right out of. college. >> Yeah. >> Cincinnati started the co-op program. That was the first university to really. institute that. They've done a lot of. things. They've always been really. connected with the business um leaders. in the community of Cincinnati, whether. it's the hospitals, uh the u the. businesses like PNG. It's a very. wellestablished and entrenched part of. that community. And it's good to see.

that it's being stewarded in a way both. athletically and academically. that is headed in a direction that I. think it needs to go in the future. >> Hell yeah, brother. And outside of that, it was just good seeing everybody, right? Got to see a lot of former. teammates, all the people that were in. that were there when we were there and. are continuing to do great things. >> Yeah. And make Cincinnati home for for. the next wave of kids, man. It's the. best. I mean, I second everything you. said you you were saying about the. University of Cincinnati, how it's.

growing. Um, and just, you know, seeing. that it's still that uh that segue into. into the modern world, man. the kids, that's where we grew up. Um, and to see. that, uh, you know, athletes and. students are, you know, getting even. better opportunity and better life. there, uh, as as much as we've seen the. campus grow and, uh, more things be at. their, uh, disposal. No, I think what. you're saying is, and this is the same.

thing I feel whenever I'm on a college. campus, you're dealing with young people. that are excited about what's to come in. their life. They're away from their. families for their first time. That's. exactly it. >> And it's it's whenever you're there, you. just get swept up in that. Whether it's. with the football team, whether it's. just walking around campus. I love being. back around college campuses and being. back at Cincinnati where we went through. that ourselves. >> It just makes it even more like hit. home. So yeah, um it was awesome being.

back. Got to see a Bible head of myself. I don't know if you saw this, Travis. >> I did see it. I did see it. It was a. banger. Real life Bible. the bobblehead. too. Light. >> was the Was the contrast this high in. real life? Like look at how tan Kylie. and I I feel like this is like somebody. edited this. >> Oh, you guys are in great No, you this. is how tan you are right now. 100%. >> That's how dark my skin looks right. there. >> Yeah. Nothing like a little garage beer. pub. >> How unathletic do my calves look in this. bobblehead? Like they just gave me.

kinkles. Look at that. >> They gave you cartoon legs, man. Hey, >> those look like the legs of Peter. Griffin. >> That's right. No definition. >> [ __ ]. >> Jason, did you get Adriaticos for the. plane? >> Our plane got delayed cuz there were. some thunderstorms coming in, so we had. time to go get Adriaticos before we. left. Uh, did not disappoint. What do. you get on on your Adriaticos? >> Uh, I usually do the pepperoni sausage. meatlovers type deal. >> I'm a big pepperoni banana peppers fan. We need to get back to the square.

pizzas. Even though when it's even when. it's like the the medium, though. I want. the medium squared. I need the medium. squared, too. The circles. I I don't. like the circles. I don't get as much. >> I was a major fatty. I was a major fatty. at Cincinnati. After the game, we went. and got Adriaticos. Dude, we went and. got Adriaticos. Then we went to Skyline. >> and we were contemplating going to Grers. right after that. We l Thankfully did. not do that. Craters would have been the. perfect uh cap to the evening. Which one.

still hit the same? >> They both still hit the exact same. >> Nice. All right. I just wanted to. >> had a nice three-way and a cheese con. Adriatico's. I mean it was fantastic. >> That sweet and spicy sauce, man. They. got this [ __ ] figured out, dog. They got. that figured out. >> I'm all in. I don't know. I don't know. if there's more. I don't know why. there's not more. Um, >> I don't think everybody's a fan of like. the thicker doughy like slices. >> Come on. If it's made like that, they.

Why wouldn't they be? >> Well, I I'm I'm in it. I mean, we grew. up on Pam Pizza from Pizza Hut. You know. what I mean? Like, I don't know. I'm I'm. in on the thick. >> Come on. Yeah. >> Like New York style is awesome as well. I like I like a lot of different ranges. of pizza. I think I'm getting pizza. tonight. Actually, now the more that. we're talking about it, I think it might. be pizza night tonight. Well, that's out. of the house. Brought to you by Expedia. Bearcats. Let's keep this thing [ __ ]. going, baby. Let's get to 2 and 0. Thank you to our sponsor, Colgate.

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uh to try and educate us and you guys on. different aspects of the game that we. might not be the best at informing you. on. And our first EVER SENIOR. CORRESPONDENT WILL BE MR. JOHN FERRARI. AS OUR SENIOR CORRESPONDING OF RULES. THAT'S RIGHT. PLEASE WELCOME FERRARI. >> Go bird. >> Go birds. Go. >> Welcome to the show, baby. >> What is your title with with the Eagles. so I can get that right? I don't want to. [ __ ] that up. >> Assistant champ. Assistant GM. >> Yeah. >> Oh, Jesus. I thought it was going to be. something with like rules or something. Here's assistant GM.

>> [ __ ] yeah, John. Way to go. All right. I'm no chimp in a suit here. This is. >> I. This is hilarious. Jason, you're wearing. something with rules. >> Well, that's So, John, why don't you. give a a background real quick of how. you've gotten to this point, where you. started in the league. >> Yeah, I was at the league office. I was. at the league office for 10 years. I. worked for the management council when. we did the CBA back in 2011 and then.

management council you get to know all. the teams. We had new work rules. So I. was in charge of helping to institute. those work rules. So got hired here in. 2016 when coach Peterson got here uh in. that transition. So been lucky to be. here for 11 seasons, two Super Bowl. wins. >> Shout out. There we go. And uh when I. was at the league office, I did some. special projects for the competition. committee. I worked for Mike Pereira. when he was running officiating for Dean. after that. So had some experience.

coming here with with the rules and the. rule book and officiating in particular. Well, one of the things I miss most from. being with the Eagles, and I'm not just. blowing smoke up your butt, John, the. meetings on Saturdays, uh, where we. would go over things that teams did. wrong the week before, things that teams. went right, and also just educating us. on what are penalties, what's not. penalties. It feels like you always had. a good grasp of all this stuff. So, we. had some controversial ones early on,

and we also thought maybe we'd open the. floor up to you telling us which rules. fans misunderstand the most, cuz we got. a whole season coming. Twitter is. already losing their minds on blown. calls by officials. >> It's one of my least favorite things, especially now that money's on the line. Everybody's complaining about officials. Where are fans right and wrong? >> First of all, Travis, what he's leaving. out is, "Oh, Saturday meetings, they. used to boo me when I would get on the. stage.". >> Roger get out. He's like, "Bro, get. out." It's because it's because clearly. the entire like football team thought.

you were a part of the rules. >> Yeah, exactly. >> That's hilarious. Yeah, >> it was from a place of love. That's what. I told myself as I as I cried to sleep. every night. >> And and and to be fair, it's just a nice. Philly welcome, isn't it? Just you get. some booze right away. >> That's right. That's right. Okay, so. here here's the Michigan the Michigan. game. I think the first thing for the. for the they were in the tank for. Michigan crowd. The the hard thing is to. me the biggest play of that game was at.

the end of the first half with nine. seconds after the interception. So. Michigan throws an interception. >> He's down by contact on the 27 yardd. line and he takes his helmet off to. celebrate. >> Can't do it. It's an automatic penalty. >> Nobody calls it. It's not called. >> Interesting. Okay. So, so the next play, Western Michigan kicks a field goal. If. they had forced that penalty, all of a. sudden it's a 58 yard field goal or. something like that. So, that to me, if. we're in the tank for Michigan, we're. off to a bad start,

>> right? Then Michigan had I think. Michigan had 10 penalties, Western. Michigan had four. So, again, the whole. the flow of the game didn't suggest that. we're. >> we're trying the big. >> Yeah, it didn't suggest that. So, but. then the end of the game. So, >> I was about to say, so end the game did. seem like that a little bit. >> It did. >> What? What? And first of all, how does. something like that happen? >> Let's give some of our viewers uh some. uh context here. So, Michigan is losing.

the game to Western Michigan uh by I. believe about five points. >> It's 12 to7. Yes, >> there you go. So they're they're they're. losing by five and they're going to. they're they're going to try and throw a. Hail Mary with seconds left. I think. there was roughly 9 to 10 seconds left. John, I'll let you take it from here. >> Nine nine seconds. Yeah. So they throw. the Hail Mary. The It's incomplete and. the clock shows zero. Western Michigan. celebrating on the field. So what you. guys have to understand is you see the. seven officials are in college, the.

eight officials on the field. There's a. whole other replay apparatus that's. helping them. the replay official who's. operating on a different system called. the Hawkeye system. He's taking all the. ca all the cameras in the stadium. He's. using all those cameras. Those cameras. are operated by NBC, but they're. independent. So, he or she can look at. whatever view they want to look at at. any time. That system is also synced to. the game clock. And then Hawkeye and the. network are synced to each other. So,

everybody should be synced. So that game. clock has integrity in terms of the. video and how it's synced to the video. So that play happens, replay looks at. it, there's a defender out of bounds. As. soon as that defender is airborne and. touches the ball, the game should the. the clock should stop because it's like. the ball touched out of bounds. >> It's the same as if it's but it so it. touched that defender's hand. Where I. think they went ary is at some point in. that game that sinking that I described. came unsynced. and what replay was.

showing was different than what the. network was showing. And I think Mike. Pereira said this to the athletic. yesterday in that case when they're not. synced, you go with the TV, you go with. network and they went with the replay. official who was operating with what he. thought was correct. But what I think. where I think they aired was that they. didn't go with TV. >> You got to go with whatever the the. viewers are seeing because that's. >> millions of people are watching. We got to make better decisions than.

that. >> So that's where they they went away from. what is the standard practice in the Big. 10. >> So you don't think the Big 10 called the. officials and said that there was an. extra second on the clock and we it. would just happen to be unsynced at this. point. Don't we don't know how, but it. just happened to be unsynced. And we're. not going for the broadcast copy. were. going to go with what we have in the. booth that no nobody else gets to see. >> That nobody else can see.

>> That's right. Well, they showed it. What. they did was the next day when the Big. 10 released the statement, they showed. the Hawkeye sync. So, what that guy was. seeing was accurate. He saw a second. Again, where I think they aired was that. they also didn't say, "Well, the network. is showing something else and we're. supposed to go with that." But what he. what he did in that moment, I don't. think was was questionable. He saw a. second on the clock and was going with. that. They just got maybe got a little. overly excited there and didn't go back.

to TV. >> Yeah. But regardless, it does seem. really fishy. It's super [ __ ] up for. Western Michigan. Like I don't know how. they're not losing their minds more than. they are. So the replay official is. seeing the Hawkeye. Is there not a TV. version up there? >> There is. >> So he's seeing both. He's seen both. Yeah, that's right. >> But he only looked at the Hawkeye. He. didn't know that that it was unsynced. >> Yeah. And I'm I'm going off the NFL. system where the replay official can. also see the TV feed. Can can see both.

So that's what they can see. That's how. Hawkeye works. You you can the default. view is the TV view. So but his clock. was different than TVs. >> And at some point in the game at some. point in that from that pregame sinking, it came undone. It was a tough weekend. for the back all around. So, >> and there's nothing that they can do. retroactively at this point. >> No, >> like the game is what it is. >> That's a No, >> they can't come out afterwards and be. like, "Hey, that last play didn't. count." Because actually.

>> they they already did that actually. They they they just did it within the. fans still being in the stadium. >> Yeah, that's right. And you can you can. see, by the way, >> wait, wait. This isn't over yet. when. when Western Michigan's on the field. celebrating and you can see them. celebrating and then you can see the. Western Michigan coach pushing them back. to the sideline because. >> right. >> whatever official on field said hey. we're still looking at this. >> hey we're looking at it's being reviewed. right. >> so it that part of it at least did. happen fast but. >> it was unfortunate all around for.

>> very unfortunate I think at this point I. mean every official just needs to double. check any situation like this with the. TV clock right like before you make any. decision make It shouldn't be off of the. Hawkeye. Like what's the point of. looking at Hawkeye? Just look at what. everybody else is watching for like a. second thing. You know what I mean? Something with a game clock should be c. should shouldn't even come down to it. Who cares if it's night? Just go off the. TV copy. >> That's right. And the reason he wants to. look at Hawkeye is so he can look at all. the different angles of it. Right. He. wants.

>> to get more access to that. But in terms. of just the timing, why are we even. looking at Hawkeye for let's just look. at the game clock? I just see some orry. old dude sitting in his chair just being. like the OH THE HAWKEYE. OH, we got a we. got the [ __ ] Hawkeye over here. telling me there's a tenth of a second. left. The fact that they called it the. Hawkeye is is so good. >> Let's move on to another one that I saw. which was the next day in the uh Notre. Dame game. There was something that got.

all of offensive line Twitter in an. uproar, Travis, which is that a snatch. was called a hold. John, you have the. clip that we're referring to. >> Yeah, we have the We have the clip here. >> All right, before you give your ruling, Travis, is this a hold? Is this not a. hold? >> No, I'm going to always favor the. offensive line. >> I like I like where your head's at. I. like where your hands at. >> Hands hands are inside. >> So, this is what I thought immediately. This gets misofficiated a lot in the NFL. and in college where if you go straight.

down hands inside that's a legal snatch. to me like that's more the defensive. lineman being out of balance and out of. control. I'm just helping him go where. he's his momentum's taking him. John I. sent this clip to you and you had an. interesting response. So what is your. reasoning behind why this was called. what it was? >> So first of all I agree with you about. the snatch. The snatch is not a is not a. foul. I think this is a foul. And again, this angle doesn't show it great because. he's controlling him inside the collar.

The control inside the collar is what. makes it rise to the level of holding. You know, I think about you know, you. ever see a dog with a backpack on hiking. and the dog has the backpack and on the. back of the backpack is a little handle. and you can control the dog with the. handle, right? You can put the handle, you can grab the the handle on the. backpack and you can move the dog. wherever you want it to. That to me is. it's the same thing when you get inside. the shoulder pad, inside the collar, you. can control that defender and move him. where you want to move him. So even. though they keep good feet, even though.

his hands are inside, it's the collar. and the grab down, not the snatch itself. that makes it a holding in my opinion. >> And this is relatively new because when. I was still in the league, they really. weren't officiating grabbing of the. collar. A matter of fact, I did it all. the time. I loved grabbing people by the. collar because for exactly what you. said, you can control them very well, especially at the second level. I grab. them by one arm. I kind of steer them. where I want them to go. >> So, this is relatively new in terms of. the NFL's. saying they want grabbing of the collar.

being called as a hold. Is that correct? >> Yeah. A couple years ago, I think it was. 24, it might have been 23, the. competition committee looked at it and. they said, you know, that is that that. leverage that that collar grab gives you. is an unfair advantage to the offensive. lineman. And the collar grab, the. sustained collar grab, not a quick one. where you get your hand then you get. your hands off of it. But the sustained. collar grab, >> they want that for holding if they can. see it. Now, a lot of times when the. hands are inside, the official can't see. it, you know, right? It's it's the.

umpire or the referee from behind the. play. He might be blocked out, but if he. can see that sustained collar grab, they. want that for holding regardless of the. feet, regardless of anything else like. the snatch, which would other, like I. said, would otherwise be legal. >> Well, I got to say I I do think it's. [ __ ] I think this sucks. Blocking. people is hard enough. But Schwarz. brothers, AQ, all of my offensive line. brethren, this is the way they're. calling it now apparently. >> And then here's an example where look at. 60 here. No problem, right? So that's.

where. >> he's just hitting the arm down. He's. not. >> He's just hitting the arm down. Just. like a receiver running a route who has. the right to knock that defensive back's. hands down. You have the right to get. That's why the snatch is legal because. you have the right to get those hands. off of you to free yourself to move. wherever you want to move. So, you have. the right to do that. That's why the. snatch is legal. Here's one where JC. Treader actually is the center here and. Betonio's the guard here. Batonio is in. the collar here. You can't really see. it, but he's in the collar. That's.

holding. What JC does here, he's trying. to get off that snatch. That's legal. So. there we have two on the same play. >> So JC is grabbing him. He's not in the. collar. So you can still, you can snatch. from the shoulder pads if the guy is out. of balance. >> No doubt. You have the right to get. those hands off of you. And if that. means you need to snatch, if that means. you need to throw his arms to the side, whatever you need to do to free. yourself, you're allowed to do that. I. guess I just don't see how it's that big. of a difference whether I'm grabbing the. outside of the like the armpit of the. shoulder pad jersey area and snatching.

them like that versus the collar. Even. though I guess the major difference is I. felt like I always had really good. control in the collar. Like I've I did a. thousand of these on screens where I'd. almost bait him up field and then. essentially throw them to the ground. >> You can control them better. And I think. the the coaches on the competition. committee had that conversation when. they made this a point of emphasis and. said there's a different that's. different than even grabbing outside the. frame holding in here again because it's. hard to see also. So I think by calling.

it they wanted to try to discourage it. even though we all know it happens from. time to time. >> Well I can't wait to see offensive lines. Twitter's reaction to all this. I love. always getting into Yeah. All righty. Let's go over what your your big. penalties that you think you always see. Twitter getting in an upper over and you. think are very commonly misunderstood. So, I think what's misunderstood and and. Trav can speak to this a lot better than. I can because he's done this for a long. time is people don't understand and fans.

don't understand how hard it is to block. in the NFL and how hard it is, especially when you're outside the tight. end or outside the tackle, how hard it. is to block. There's a lot of space. So, you have to be aware of blindside. blocks, meaning blocking backward. towards your own end line. You have to. be aware when you're flexed, you have to. be aware of a crackback block where you. block inside. You can't block high or. low. And then you have to be aware of. blocks in the back. So, you've got to. get them on the side. It is in you have. to check a lot of boxes to legally.

block, especially in the run in the run. game when you're blocking outside in. And it is really hard. Like I'm going to. show you an example here. So, this is. Cadarius Tony here at the top of the. screen. So, he's flexed. So, he's flexed. and he's blocking back in towards the. ball. Okay. So, he just like a a pass. rusher hitting the quarterback, he has. to hit that opponent in that target. zone. Okay. He can't hit him in the. headneck area and he can't cut him. He's. got to hit him in that target zone. Tra, am I right? >> Correct.

>> So, you see here, he comes in and he. makes headneck contact. That's a foul. for That's a foul for an illegal. crackback block. >> John, I hate that this is a penalty. I. hate it so much. >> It's so rough, man. I get it and I know. that it's trying to reduce the head the. head-to-head hits and the person. initiating the contact has the most. control over that. My problem is the. defenseless thing. You're a defender. THEY'RE I DON'T understand why defenders. get defenseless. Like have your head on. a swivel. That was like the WHOLE POINT. LIKE I GET A RECEIVER GOING FOR A BALL.

I GET A QUARTERBACK IS IN THE POCKET. THROWING IT. I don't understand it. And. I know that defenders get pissed off. Think about this, John. Think about this. because you're about to show another. version of this, I think, which is the. the one where you go and you're blocking. back towards your own end zone. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Blindside blocks are more protected than. receivers going over the middle. >> Yes. >> In other words, if a receivers's coming. over the middle, I can lay into him as. hard as I want as long as I don't hit. his head. >> Head. Yeah. No head in the middle. >> And I don't lead with my HEAD ON A BLIND. SIDE BLOCK. I LITERALLY HAVE TO GO WITH.

HANDS. >> YEAH. And it's it's. >> Are we [ __ ] PLAYING PATTY CAKE? WHY. THE [ __ ] CAN'T I JUST CLEAN THIS DUDE'S. CLOCK? I THOUGHT WE WERE PLAYING. FOOTBALL. JOHN, >> YOU used to be able to. But here's. here's what I would say, Jay. Jay, here's what I would say. This defender. here, this defender here gets the same. protection. The receiver running the. route that you just said. >> Yes. Yeah. >> This defender gets the same protection. They're both def considered. The. receiver running the route, that's both. considered defenseless. >> Okay. All right. I'll grant it. I'll. grant it. As much as I And to be fair, I.

also liked watching receivers get their. heads knocked off. I just like watching. people get destroyed. It's like deep in. my bones of '90s football has hasn't. gone away. >> I do like that people aren't lying. unconscious on the field as much though. >> Now, here's another one. And Trev, I'm. sure you probably remember this. This is. back from two This is 23. So Trev's. going to go in motion here. He's going. to come back. He's never set for a. complete stop. >> He's also. a crackback block. >> He can't do this. >> No, cuz I didn't come set. I'm a guy in.

motion. If I'm if I'm going to do this, I gotta I gotta plant my feet and set. myself in the technically in like that. tackle box area. >> Okay. Okay. >> He doesn't have to get set for a full. second. He just has to come to a. complete stop because they were all set. for a second before the motion. So, all. it is is a complete stop and then he can. cut him. >> Got it. Okay. >> It's hard to block in the NFL. It's. really hard. >> The toughest one for me is uh is the. crackback, man. If you catch if you. catch somebody not looking at you, it's.

like back in the day, you would just you. would lick your chops to be able to get. a guy not looking at you because he's. you catch him slipping. And nowadays, it. doesn't matter if it's like if if a if a. 320 lb dackle is chasing the ball. Let's. say I'm a wide receiver at two 200. soaking wet. My ability to just try and. put hands on a man that big and stop his. momentum from getting to the ball. carrier is it's damn near impossible. Especially if he has that the running.

starter he's hauling ass. Like the only. way to stop that man from getting to the. ball carrier is to put some oomph into. him or to try and try and like stop him. by by not necessarily like leading with. your head, but if but the whole he's a. defenseless player. I can't imagine I. can't see how that's the case. >> But this is my thing. Even if you even. if you want to grant him the defenseless. positions that receivers and these. crackback uh block positions get I I.

don't understand why when you're all of. a sudden peeled around, you can't as hit. him thick right in the body. >> Right in the body. Yeah. >> I want to take his ribs out. No, you got. to hit him with the hands. Remember, I'm. talking we're talking about facing your. blind side. >> He's talking about this play in. particular here. So like this was this. is my this is our teach tape tra about. how to do it here. Coming back towards. the ball. >> too. Come on. Come on. >> Show the hands. >> Yeah. All hands. All hands. >> And then look at this. Look at look at. Jason here. Look at this. Then the hands.

go up. I'm I'm innocent. And then he. looks at the official. >> Don't you call that [ __ ]. >> Don't you call that. >> Probably shouldn't do that. That's. admission of guilt is never a good idea. You know, it used to be that you could. hit them as hard as you wanted in the. target in that target zone, but they it. was it was only a foul for a blind side. block if it was in the head neck or you. cut him. Now they want any for they. wanted any forceful contact because I'll. tell and I'll tell you the play that did. it. It was this play that made changed. the rule. This play changed the rule. That was legal at the time. Okay. So,

>> what's wrong with. >> Courtourtney twins? I knew it was the. McCourtney brothers that they probably. >> Is this is this Deon? Is this you think. it's Deon? >> I think it was Deon. I think it's Deon. That's why that Travis Benjamin block. became the poster child for why they. added any forcible contact going. backwards. >> What happened to him? Did he did his did. his career end? Why was Why is that the. block? >> No, I think he came back and won won two. Super Bowls, I think. >> Yeah. What are we talking about? There's. nothing wrong with that hit other than. you got to keep your head on a swivel. I.

don't [ __ ] get it. >> Yeah. I I I think we've I think we've. gone overboard on blindside blocks. That's all I'm saying. If I I'm willing. to concede cutting and head area if. somebody doesn't see it coming that you. you shouldn't hit that. But this is. football. Like I don't like that my. block I like basically am like just. tagging him. I feel this that's a little. too far. >> They do employ a common sense some. common sense when it comes to what is. forcible on that. Right. If it's not it. has to be forcible. If you make some. kind. >> I want to be forcable. I want.

>> you want to send a message. I understand. what you want. I ASSAULT JOHN. >> and I I want you to play football. >> To summarize, if you're outside the. tackle box, you come in, you can't hit. in the head area or below the waist. >> in that target zone. >> And that is if you are outside two yards. outside the tackle. >> Yep. So, and that is and again, you got. to be traveling up field there like. Cadaras Tony was. You got to be moving. upfield because if you're going back, you can't make any forcible contact. You. got to lead with the hands like we're.

talking. >> You got to go hands. This is why it's so. hard because you got to think about. exactly where you are, what direction. you're traveling, where the opponent is, what is he looking at. There's so much. to think about in those blocks, which. obviously we know come on you in a. second. Do you think this is. entertaining to America? Do you think. they're fascinated? >> Who cares? It's entertaining to us. >> Yeah. No, it it's. I had fun doing it. >> Yeah. I think I think I think I think. Americans would really appreciate a more. well-rounded showing of what penalties.

actually are. I think you could actually. do a service because I think a lot of. people do and this is just one example. holding like what is holding what's not. holding. One of the that gets me is like. OPI, offensive passer interference. Like. I as an offensive lineman, I still don't. understand like a guy's pressed on him. and he's shouldering through, but. because they know that it's a pick. route, they're just going to call it. Like what's the parameter that we're. using here? I I think that it gets. really gray in some of these calls. And.

I think that you know a lot more of the. nuance on to why these get called. So do. you Travis in term of that one in. particular I'm sure. But there's a lot. of nuance that the average viewer. doesn't understand and you see him say. it all the time on Twitter. So we could. do a service to uh to the Twitter verse. here with John Ferrari if you if you'd. be open to it. >> with our senior correspondent. >> Thank you so much for taking time out of. your day to do this and explain these. things to us. Can't wait to see the. commanders game this week. Best of luck, brother. >> Appreciate you guys. You guys do a great. job. Tra, good luck to you guys.

>> Thank you, brother. We'll talk soon, man. All right, that wraps up another. episode of New Heights. Thank you to. John Ferrari. Thank you to all of you. 92enters for tuning in. You can follow. us on New Heights Show with 1S on. Instagram and Twitter and all that other. jazz. Uh listen and subscribe wherever. you get your podcast. See you guys next. week. All right. Now, once again, New. Heights of Wonder Show brought to you by. Reese's. As Jason just said, follow the. show on all social medias and thanks to. our New Heights production team. You. guys are going to have to chop this one.

together. Uh, but we love you guys, man. You guys are the greatest. Thanks for. making us look great, sound great. Uh, cuz you guys are great. And to the 92. percenters, we'll see you next week. >> Peace. >> A [ __ ] up knuckle on a football. player's hand is kind of like a hockey. player missing a tooth. It's just like. almost like a right of passage. You know. what I mean? You got to have something. wrong. I know you, bro. >> You got to have something wrong with one.

of them fingers. Let me see your hands, Travis. Let me see your hand. >> Yeah. You see the that ring finger on. the on the on the right hand is a little. fat. >> That Yep. That knuckle right there. That's That's the arthritis kicking in. >> Look at that. Well, hold on. Look at the. middle finger on the left hand. Hold it. out straight again. Does it go all the. way straight? Let me see it from the other side. Uh, that's kind of a normal one. It's got a. little bow to it, but I don't think. that's football. I think it's just. inbreeding. What do you think? Uh, >> breathing.

>> My hands actually made it out pretty. good. They don't look like Chuck Berks. or Brian Balding. >> You're good. You just You just. >> That pinkie is a little [ __ ] up. Well, that one that's that's the giveaway, right? That's how I close my hand. I got. to close my like this. I can't go. I go. like that, but then that finger just. kind of points down. >> Yeah. >> Hey, down. >> Jason, why don't you tell the people. what happened to that finger? >> It's called jersey finger. I was doing a. one-on-one rep, nose guard, hit a quick. like little deal like that, and my. finger got stuck in the jersey. It was. actually on that like Friday practice.

when there's aren't there's no pads, you. know what I mean? It's just like, >> oh yeah, that's. >> I think it was a Thursday. I don't know. It just kind of shitty circumstances. Then, >> so when you tear a tendon off of an. attachment point, you have kind of have. like two weeks to fix it. otherwise the. tendon starts losing its blood supply. and uh it just doesn't function ever. again. So I had to decide whether I was. going to go on IR for a full season and. just cut the tendon out of my finger.

>> There was no in between. There wasn't. like a throw a club on it. >> They were like we could fix it but it's. just going to retear essentially was. what they said. >> Like the rehab the rehab was so long. that once you get it done you're done. for the rest of the season. I would have. been out for the full regular season. because of a torn finger tendon and I. would have looked like the biggest. >> biggest [ __ ] on the [ __ ] planet. >> You would had you would had dads from. the 1960s AND 70S7 RY CUT IT OFF.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. That's. right. >> Kelsey, I thought he was tougher than. that. >> You see, you see Jason just went that. went on IR this week. What? Oh my. Oh. no. What' he do? He tears. >> got a finger. >> His his fingers hurt. Man, >> can't be doing that, dog. >> Can't be doing that. >> So, you just said adio. So, now you. can't even make a fist. >> I can make a fist. I just have to make. it. It kind of is like a [ __ ] It It. looks weird. Looks fine there. There. But that finger doesn't ever. >> Yeah, it still looks like you give. somebody a bloody nose. You're good.

>> I mean, it it it's fine. It's really. annoying in golf and my hand always. hurts, but it's fine. >> They had to go in and cut it out. Brandon, do me fair. Pull up Brian. Baldinger's hands. Let's show Let's give. the people. >> Don't do this. >> Let's give the people what they don't. even know they want. >> Before they Before they knew that they. get tape fingers. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> YEAH. THAT'S A FOOTBALL PLAYER RIGHT. THERE, BABY. >> No ifands or butts. That's a guy that.

[ __ ] is going like this. >> There's a photo of Banerys that should. be like in the in the Lou. Look at this. [ __ ] Look at his [ __ ]. That's what. >> that's what playing center looks like. >> Hockey players got gaps in their in. their teeth. >> Football players can can point around a. corner. >> BARELY.

HIM. HIM. ME. Him or me? Him or me? Who. you pointing at? >> Anthony Munoz had some messed up. fingers. >> What is this? There's no fix. Just stuck. with it. >> You got to be able to fix that. >> How do you get in your pocket? >> How does it not just get caught on. stuff? >> How do you get a shirt on? How do you. get like through a shirt sleeve? >> That thing gets jammed in the door every. week. >> Anthony, >> it's the price to pay to be an all all. pro Hall of Fame left tackle.

>> These are podcasting hands. >> That's right. You want to know what high school tennis. and a career in media looks like? Beautiful. Look at that. I'm grabbing [ __ ]. Well, look at this [ __ ] Look, it's. unscrewed right off the top. Sorry. >> Oh, man. >> Anybody else you want to gander that? >> I think that's all we needed. >> I mean, Ronnie a lot. You got to We. mentioned Ronnie. >> Why don't we throw the Ronny's? We got. to tell the story, too. I mean, I don't.

know that I know the 100% truthful. story. I just know the story that it was. broken or whatever and he had to cut it. off in order to play in the Super Bowl. was what I was told. >> God, >> is that the actual story of writing a. lot? That's that's what I always thought. it was. >> Cutting his finger off Midame is the. title of this video. Jesus, >> why does it still have a nail? If you. cut your finger in half, does this just. to start get a nail? >> We need to get Ronnie on here. >> Is it just like so much of the It's like. halfway through the pinky. Is that what. it is? And so there's still a little bit of.

nail left. It's just like he he like. clipped it right through the. >> point of it. >> Yeah, >> there's Chuck. Look at that Chuck Beric, baby. >> Look at them fingers. >> All right, tune in next week. We're. going to show you guys some [ __ ] up. feet. >> Concrete Chuck except his hands. >> He made his entire body of concrete and. his hands of hanger wire.