Offseason Plans, Wildcard Preview & Matt Damon on Brady, Affleck Bromance & Career Odyssey | EP 174

How do you think the Patriots will do in. the playoffs? Are you guys so spoiled. that it's like if they don't win the. Super Bowl, you guys are going to be. upset or is this like. >> No, not at all. I mean, this is a new. this is a new team, right? And I think I. [music] think this is like found money. for us, right? Like I feel like it's. [laughter]. >> it's from the rip. YOU GUYS BUSTED OPEN. THE WALL AND YOU FOUND A QUARTERBACK. >> $20 MILLION [screaming] QUARTERBACK. SITTING IN THE WALL. [laughter]. >> HE BROKE IN AND TOOK THE sledgehammer. and there with Drake May.

Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and. gentlemen, boys and girls, 92 presenters. from all over a wre show brought to you. by Into It Turboax. Ho, it's starting to. get the tax season, baby. Don't forget. to pay your taxes. >> Unfortunately, they will knock on the. door and you do need to pay them. >> I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big. brother Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland. Heights, Ohio. Shout out to the Tigers. and shout out to those Bearcats, baby. Subscribe on YouTube Plus. wherever you. get your podcast and follow the show on. all social media at new height show with.

one ask for fun clips throughout the. week. Um I am officially jobless Jason. Um actually this is my only job. >> Well no you're still employed unless you. stop playing. Have you announced you're. stopped playing? >> This is the only company that employs me. right now. >> 90%. WE GOT A GREAT EPISODE [laughter]. COMING UP. Uh we're going to recap. everything that happened in the final. week of the regular season as well as. DIVE INTO THESE UPCOMING WILD. [screaming] CARD WEEKEND GAMES. I'M. EXCITED FOR SOME PLAYOFFS. >> PLAYOFFS. >> YOU KNOW WHAT I'M EXCITED FOR? [ __ ].

DAMON. [screaming] THAT'S RIGHT. HE'S. COMING IN THE BACK. THAT'S RIGHT. WE GOT. HIM. WE GOT WILL. WE GOT JASON BOURNE. WE GOT [laughter] ONE OF THE MOST ICONIC. ACTORS OF THIS GENERATION. HE'S GOING TO. COME. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE YOU WAIT FOR. IT. HE'LL BE AFTER WE TALK A LITTLE BIT. of football, but you're going to you're. GOING TO GET THROUGH IT WITH US. ALL. RIGHT. WE'RE WE CAN'T just so you know, we can't wait for Matt either. All. right. All right. Here we go. Let's. start off what WE ALWAYS START OFF WITH. Lubin News. >> New news. >> New news is brought to you by American. Express. Okay. Update from the Amazon.

Holiday Giving Initiative. This holiday. season, over 3,000 Operation. Breakthrough Families and Casey were. provided with gifts and essential needs. That's right. How about that? Well done. Thank you to all the 92enters and our. friends of course at Amazon. Well done, Amazon. >> That's awesome, man. >> Well done, 92enters. because of everyone. involved with this entire initiative, 3,000 Operation Breakthrough families. have uh had something around the. holidays, which I mean, if that's not. the Christmas spirit, I don't know what.

is. And for the third time, Travis Kelce. has won the NATIONWIDE WALTER PAYEYTON. MAN OF THE YEAR CHARITY CHALLENGE. >> HOW ABOUT IT, MAN? >> Every year, each team nominates one. player to be their Walter Pton Man of. the Year. you get nominated, there is a. fan vote that happens on socials and on. the internet. And if you win that, you. get you win the charity challenge. You're the only player to win the. charity challenge each time they've been. nominated. >> Yeah, it's Chief's Kingdom, baby.

>> As the club's Walter Payeyton man of the. year. Shout out to Chiefs Kingdom. Shout. out to the 92enters. Operation. Breakthrough also dropped some throwback. pics of you cuz you've been involved. there for a while. >> Oh, we've been doing this since since. beginning of my career. Yeah. the young. Travis Kelsey right here. >> There you go. Oh yeah. In the muffler. shop and then uh the early days, man. Oh. my gosh. It's so funny seeing some of. these pictures. The original uh robotics. lab that that 87 are running my. foundations uh helped support um that. robot right there. You see that young.

girl holding up uh and now she is like. one of the the like high school kids. that are now have been using Operation. Breakthrough and all its resources for a. while. So, it's cool to see some of. these familiar faces uh grow into high. school kids and kind of. >> That's awesome. >> Yeah, it's awesome, man. And uh one of. my first uh foundation events, I used to. do a walk the walk. It used to be a uh. fashion show uh that I used to put on. for some of the boutiques and uh and the. kids over at Operation Breakthrough got. to walk in it. So, shout out to everyone.

over at OB. You guys know how much I. love you and how much uh you guys mean. to me and it just uh means everything. that 92enters and Chiefs Kingdom out. there help support that and um and and. it's all to make these kids right here. happy and uh proud of where they come. from. Right. >> Well, just so you guys know, everything. from the nationwide Walter Payeyton Man. of the Year charity challenge goes to. support Operation Breakthrough. So, you. guys are awesome. Thank you so much. And. thank you to everybody who voted for. Travis and who has helped Operation. Breakthrough out. It's a fantastic. organization in Kansas City. Uh they do.

so many things for these kids and. families. So well done everyone. >> and that wraps up new news which is. brought to you once again by American. Express. >> Let's move on to some bold topics to. wrap up week 18 in the NFL. Wow, week. 18. I forgot we even had 18 weeks. It. was a 17 game season. Uh bold topics are. brought to you by KFC. Yeah, we got some. snackers from famous KFC bowls. All. right, here we go. Chiefs 12, Raiders.

14. What are your thoughts on the. season, Trev? What are your closing. sentiments from uh this Chiefs season? >> You know, it was uh it was a tough. season. Obviously ended uh even worse. because uh my guy 15 went down and um. you know, we finished the season with a. lot of starters kind of being banged up. So, we had a had a mixture of guys that. were getting their first taste of what. the NFL has to offer, which is fun. But. um it definitely has its challenges and. um you know it's a it's a it's a tough.

it's a tough way to go out especially. with the amount of success and the. standard that you hold you know yourself. and the team to going into the season. and throughout the season and um you try. and look back on it you know right away. and you try and you know learn from it. and and maybe try even try and figure. out where it all went wrong and how you. could have been better in certain. situations and. >> um it's just a shitty feeling. in a in a. shitty way to try and navigate uh one of. the things you do you love to do the. most and that's play football. And uh.

you know I just I appreciate everybody. that was in that building and and that. was on the field the past like 3 four. weeks when we knew we really didn't have. much to play for other than the love of. the game and um the the pride and the. honor that comes with playing in the. NFL. But um I just uh I appreciate. everybody that that was out there giving. it their all and putting their body on. the line and um made it as as good as as. we could have uh going going into the. last weekend and the in and the end of. the season. >> Yeah, there's nothing worse than uh you.

know not making the playoffs. It is uh. very frustrating. You guys have done it. especially when you guys have done it so. much. Like it's absolutely crazy. And. you guys obviously should be very proud. of that, but that doesn't make any It. hurt. It It actually probably hurts. more, I would assume. >> Yeah, it's kind of an embarrassing. feeling, but um you know, you uh you. keep it moving, man. You keep it moving. and uh I'm still a fan of the game and I. still love the game. So, I'll be tuned. in throughout the playoffs, seeing how. this thing shakes out uh over the next.

couple weeks. and um yeah, get to be. around some friends and family uh in. January uh instead of trying to figure. out how to win some playoff games. >> The season did not come without you guys. winning some things, especially you, Trev, with uh some records being broken. Let's have a little reminder since you. love talking about records so much and. stats. All right, >> you became the third tight end ever with. 13,000 receiving yards, the fastest to. ever accomplish that feat. guys in front.

of you, of course, another Kansas City. legend, Tony Gonzalez, who. >> DG. >> I mean, absolutely insane how many yards. Tony has. Uh, >> no, it's absolutely insane as you're. right. He's [ __ ] silly. >> And then obviously Jason Whitten down in. Dallas. Travis, the third one to get. over the 13,000. yard marker, which is a very uh fitting. number, I think. Uh, you also passed to. for eighth most receptions in NFL. history. Did you know that?

>> Yes. Yeah. I mean, I've known all they. asked me about all this stuff uh after. the game. So, that's how that's how I. really know. >> That's crazy. I didn't know you were. eighth of receptions just period. That's. awesome. >> Yeah, Coach Reed dials me up. I don't. know what else [laughter] to tell you. I. think uh when he puts together a game. plan, he features me. Uh and I'm very. fortunate of that. And I'm fortunate. that in my 13th year, he was still. trusting me to try and win him some ball. games. So, um, shout out to coach for, you know, helping me, uh, accumulate.

some of these yards and catches. >> Well, another record is you are now tied. with Tim Brown for the longest streak of. seasons with 75 plus receptions at 10. >> LeBron step 100%. >> Yeah, that's LeBron step. >> Shout out to Tim Brown, though. >> Now that the season is over, what is. next for the Big Yeti? >> Every season ends for me. I put my feet. up and I just be a human because yeah, >> I've been uh putting my body through the. ringer for uh for the love of it, you. know. I do I do enjoy playing football. and the the physical aspect of it. I.

think there's something about, you know, feeling the the wear and tear of the. football season to just [ __ ]. you know, getting ready for a game. knowing that your body is [ __ ] beat. down, man. I just I think there's. there's something to it. makes you just. feel like a like a mangy animal that. just is [ __ ] out here just finding a. way to survive. And I just [ __ ] love. that [ __ ] But yeah, um I think uh yeah, just being a regular human for for a. couple weeks, maybe a month or so, and. uh trying to figure out what I'm going. to do next in in terms of my future in.

football. Um and uh I think uh you know, I've talked to a few people in the. facility already, you know, having the. exit meetings and everything and um they. they know where I stand at least right. now. And I think there's there's a lot. of love for the game that's that's still. there. And I I don't think I'll ever. lose that. Um, and um, I don't know. It's a it's a it's a tough thing to. navigate, but at the same time, um, you. know, I think, uh, if I think my if my.

body can can heal up and rest up and I. can, uh, I can feel confident that I can. go out there and give it another 18, 20, 21 week run, um, I think, uh, I would do. it in a heartbeat. So, um. >> I think right now it's just finding that. answer and and seeing how the uh the. body uh feels after this game and kind. of when it all settles down. >> I'm confused. So, you're not already. coming back.

>> What? >> Chris Jones has said that you're coming. back. I thought this was already. >> nice. That's why we love Chris. He's very. optimistic. [laughter]. He's very optimistic. >> Chris Jones's quote is, "I'm not buying. it. He'll be back next year. But. [laughter]. he also followed that up though. He. said, "I can't promise you anything.". >> Nice. >> There you go. >> Um, [laughter]. >> yeah. Let's keep this thing moving. A. little Eagles 17, Commanders 24. Uh, Jason, you want some thoughts on the. game? I mean, obviously the Eagles.

didn't play all their starters, but. >> yeah, I mean, that's the big storyline. is obviously the way it worked this past. week for the Eagles was if. you know Detroit beat Chicago, which did. end up happening. And if the Eagles win, the Eagles could have jumped up to the. two seed. The Eagles obviously elected. to rest their starters because. they prioritized the rest going into the. playoffs, which I think is right. I. mean, it's if the Eagles could have.

guaranteed getting the two seed by. playing their starters, I think they. probably would have played. But because. there was this other game that also had. to take place, you have the risk of injury, it's kind of outside of your control. The one thing you can control in that. situation is making sure your team is. rearing and ready to go for week one. And I also, to be honest with you, I. felt pretty confident the Eagles backups. would beat the Commanders. And I think. that they should have. They didn't.

finish the game well. They started off. pretty good. Tank Bsby was running. crazy. Um, I was excited to see Tanner. McKe. He's played well in most of his. outings with the Eagles. So, there's a. portion of me that just want to see what. some of these backups and young guys. could do. But, yeah, it looks bad in. hindsight. This is one of those things. where, you know, because Chicago lost, you know, we got the egg on our face. because we didn't play our starters and. we could have the two seed most likely. if we would have played everybody. But I. think of it like this too is like. >> Monday morning quarterback.

>> If they start the starters and one of. the premier guys gets hurt and the Lions. don't win, then everybody's going to be. on Nick Srian Bell. What [ __ ] idiot. is playing as guys in a game that's. meaningless? >> Damn if you do, damn if you don't. Yeah. >> And we were in the same a similar. situation in 2023, my last year. And the. offense was struggling. We really. actually had less the gain. Like we. weren't really playing for anything in. that week if I recall it correctly. And. we go out there and we play and what.

happens? AJ Brown gets hurt and he. couldn't play in the first playoff game. Jaylen Herz also got banged up in that. game. And I do think that that was also. in the back of Nick Serriani and the. Eagles head of like, listen, the last. time we played our guys in a game like. this, it ended up costing us some. meaningful people and we weren't at our. best against Tampa Bay. I think at this. point in the season when you get the. rest and you have the opportunity to. avoid somebody getting hurt and you. don't know for certain that playing guys. is going to help you, I don't know that.

it benefits you that much. And at the. end of the day, you still got to go. through good teams to win the Super. Bowl. Like, yeah, if we play if we're. the two seed and we can guarantee two. home games, that is a big thing. That is. a big deal. But at the same time, like, we're going to have to play great teams. regardless. And now we get a week of. rest. All of our starters, Landon, our. whole offensive line has been so banged. up. A lot of those guys got the ability. to get healthier. And then we're going. to get to place well and now we get San. Fran who just fought their tails off.

with a juggernaut of Seattle and they're. going to be coming to the east coast. Uh. you know I think if this team is good. enough, they're still going to find a. way to get it done. I don't think that. decision in week 18 is going to. determine uh the outcome of this team. I. just think that when we play up to our. potential with the defense we have and. with the offensive firepower we have, I. think we can beat anybody. Well, you. guys got the 49ers next week and uh I. mean they've been rolling, man. They've. been rolling. They had a tough one last.

week, but. >> dude, how good is Seattle? >> That was a crazy game, >> dude. Seattle weather game, too. >> Seattle's so long and fast and those. windows just they're smaller and they. close and. >> they're active, man. Active. >> I came away from that game more. impressed with Seattle than I was like, "Oh, San Fran ain't very good." San. Fran's still legit. I just think the. Seattle defense is freaking man, do they. got some dudes over there. >> Yeah, when with everything that's. happened with the 49ers, man, Kyle. Shanahan, man, >> one of the best seasons, >> tip of the cap. He just keeps finding.

ways to [ __ ] win. And shout out to. the guys that, you know, haven't gotten. injured that are fighting through and. finding ways. >> Shout out to John Lynch for building a. deep roster. You know what I mean? Like. to be able to weather all this stuff. You know, if they don't go out and get. M. Jones this off season, they probably. they don't What happens in those eight. games that Brock Pretty misses? Who. knows, man. All right, let's get into. the rest of week 18. Good luck to those. birds playing the Niners next week, man. I'm be [ __ ] glued to the TV on Sunday. when they play. But the rest of the week. 18 games, uh Seahawks got the number one.

seed by beating the Niners. We just. talked about that. The NFC South had. three teams finished 8-9. Panthers move. on due to the tiebreakers. Uh with the. 8-9 Panthers hosting the 12 and five. Rams is a crazy uh insane thing to think. about. I think I remember some some. coaches coming out and saying, "Hey, if. the record's better, we deserve the the. home game." But I kind of think that. that would. >> I'm all in on the divisions. >> You win the division, you get you get. the home game. I think I'm.

>> You don't win your division, you don't. get a home game. I don't care what your. record is. >> Now the Rams have to go all the way to. Carolina, take that four hour, five. Yeah. four and a half hour, five hour. trip to play a football game. Carolina. kind of like smalls their way into the. playoffs like like Rodrigo just kind of. like Rodriguez Benny the Jet just sent. him out to center field and they just. held up their glove like this and then. all of a sudden [laughter]. >> SMALLS WE'RE IN THE PLAYOFFS. HOLY [ __ ]. >> OKAY, WE'RE doing this. All right,

[laughter]. that's hilarious. >> Steelers pulled it off against the. Ravens. Another [ __ ] just. >> dude. It was an awesome end of the game. Lamar. versus Rogers was was a hell of a. [ __ ] battle. >> Lamar and Rogers, especially in the. fourth quarter, were freaking on fire. Like every time you thought one of them. outdid the other one, the other one. answered and it came down to the wire, Lamar got them in position, but yeah, you missed the kick. I mean, it's. unfortunate, right? >> Yeah, it's it's very unfortunate. And. actually, Mike Tomlin had another Mike.

Tomlin quote about how unfortunate it is. and just how, you know, sometimes the. ball just doesn't go your way, you know? He says in quote, "You you know how it. is missing a field goal. If my aunt had. male parts, she'd be my uncle.". [laughter]. >> I I wish you would have just said just. say the whole thing, Mike. I don't need. you to sugarcoat it or censor it. Yeah. If my aunt had a dick, she'd be my. uncle. That's what that's what the. saying is. [laughter]. >> It doesn't hit the same with the mail. boards, but it is a great one.

>> It's a banger. And we got the playoff. picture. We were just talking about the. Eagles playing in San Fran. Uh hosting. San Fran. that is um being the number. three seed. Rams going to Carolina, Green Bay at Chicago. The Bears hosting. a a playoff game at Soldier Field. That's epic. Uh Steelers hosting the. Texans with the four and five match up. Buffalo has got to go down to Duvall. How about it, man? Those guys are. [ __ ] rocking, but you can never count. out Josh Allen. And then you got a fun.

one, man. Two awesome quarterbacks. love. watching both these guys play with. Justin Herbert versus Drake May and. they'll be up there in uh in New England. playing. Man, uh which one's your. favorite game? >> Well, the game I'm most excited about is. Philly vers Fran. I do think that's. that's one of the more exciting games in. the first round. >> There's a little bit of an NFC playoff. like rivalry between you guys for sure. >> No doubt. We've had a lot of meaningful. games uh really over the last five, six. years. >> Hell yeah. >> Because we've both been really good. I'm. looking forward to all though. That's.

why the playoffs are so good. I'll be. honest, I still wish it was six teams. I. don't like that there's seven teams. I. don't like that there's only one buy. I. think it should be the old structure, but it's still the NFL playoffs. It's. still the best thing around. I still. love it. I'm looking forward to most of. these games. I I think the ones that I'm. probably San Fran, Philadelphia, and. probably Jacksonville, Buffalo, the 263. games are probably the most exciting. ones. What do you think? What are the. games you're most excited about, Trey? >> I mean, the one I just talked about up. in New England, I think that's going to. be fun as hell to watch. Buffalo, Jacksonville game, I'm pretty [ __ ]. jacked for. I'm I'm interested to see.

who comes out on top on that one. >> Do we have a most likely upset? Who do. you think's going to lose? That's. favorite. [snorts] I mean, either of the. four seeds, which that's not an upset, though. Are we going upset by seed or. upset by. >> seed? Seed. >> Well, then the obvious answer is like. LA's going to beat the piss out of. [ __ ] Carolina, right? >> Until that ball just finds [laughter]. the mitt. >> And sometimes when you got that Angels. in the outfield uh luck to you, it just. you know, >> you got the juice. You got the juice, man. I don't know what to tell you. >> I think the other one is obviously.

Houston versus Pittsburgh. Houston's. defense is insane. >> Yeah, that's the that's the one I was. going to say. >> Buffalo. Is Buffalo out? >> I could see them winning. >> Jacksonville's really good, right? >> They they got a lot of fun. They're a. lot of fun right now. >> The one I feel the most confident about. is definitely LA. What team is the most. hot going into playoffs? >> It's got to be Jacksonville. They. [ __ ] won their last like seven games. or something. >> Jacksonville has finished the regular. season hot. That's why that game right. now I'm very much looking forward to.

watching which quarterback will get. their first playoff win. Um I think May. will. >> I mean between him and Herbert I can see. >> I think Darnold I mean dude it's hard to. bet against Seattle right now. They. looked unbelievable against Sam Fran. that and not I mean Darnold looks great. too but that defense is really the one. thing that's like whoa. Seattle's. defense is kind of built like a. modern-day NBA team. the athletes. >> their nickel is like 63. >> bro he is active too. >> there were plays kind of open for San.

Fran but by the time the ball got there. that distance was just closed they move. so fast they have range that's why they. remind me of an NBA modern NBA team. because they're all long they can cover. ground and I feel like right now. everybody's playing this like kind of. conservative zone like get back into. your hooks. And the way teams are trying to combat. that is the short stuff. But then they. just break. They break on that stuff so. quickly that even when you throw it.

short, they're on you right now and you. don't get much out of it. So they tackle. well. It's a very impressive defense. So. I don't know. If I'm rolling with one, I'm going with you. Uh. >> do you have a Super Bowl dark horse? >> I mean, it's got to be kind of. Jacksonville, right? I just feel like. that's that's the one that's got the. energy and has the has the momentum. right now. on. I mean, even though. they're a three seed, uh, which their. record shows that they're one of the top. teams in the league, it's it's kind of. like they it's unproven yet. You know, you got to see Trevor go out there and. really run the table, man. And, um, I.

think that's probably my dark horse, if. there is a dark horse. >> It does feel like the Rams are getting a. lot of attention. The Eagles are. obviously the defending champions. Uh, Seattle, everyone is talking about now. Uh, but on the AFC side, everyone's. talking about Josh Allen. It's his time. Like Drake May, MVP, almost nobody. really is talking that much about Jack. Like they're the darkest one, but. they've actually been playing the most. consistent probably. I'm kind of with.

you on this. I don't think they're going. to win, but they are the dark horse. Yeah, we've got a great slate of games. this weekend. And uh you can't forget. that uh that that prime video game. That's right. Green Bay Packers are. playing the Chicago Bears over at. Soldier Stadium. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I remember a playoff game over at. Soldier Stadium and ended in a double. doink. It's always electric and there's. going to be electric game this Saturday, January 10th at 7:30 p.m. only on Prime. Video. Hey. All right. Well, that wraps.

up Bold Topics brought to you by KFC. Heyo. Let's wrap up some football talk. with Stamps of the Week. Stamps of the. week is brought to you by HBO Max. Check. out The Pit Season 2 premiering tomorrow. at 9 Eastern. All right, this is the. easiest pick for me. I'm going Miles. Garrett. Broke the sack record. Uh I. mean, anytime somebody breaks a freaking. all-time season record of sacks, rushing. yards, anything like that, they're going. to get the stamp of the week. I don't. know how you don't give them the stamp. of the week. And he did it sacking. Joe.

Burrow. Did Joe take a dive? Are we Do. we have another Do we have another. Gastono? >> Let's take a look at this. Did Joe take. a dive? Joe doesn't strike me as a. diving kind of guy. No, he's a competitor. >> That's a sack. That's a sack. That's a. sack. >> Yeah, he didn't fight it, but that's a. sack. That's a sack. We'll count it. We'll count it. We'll count it. Shout. out to Miles Garrett, man. Absolute. [ __ ] legend. Uh deserves all the. praise he's getting and congrats on.

[ __ ] getting 23 sacks. It's crazy, man. Uh Strahan was uh commenting on it. says, you know, uh he's got the record. in 17 games. I got the record in 16. games. >> He was He kind of was joking around a. bit about it. >> Yeah, you already know he's having fun. with it. He shows He shows Miles all the. all the respect as well, man. But. >> for sure, >> I'm going to go uh I'm going to go hit. home with it, baby. Uh Cleveland Heights. own Leila Edwards is heading to the. Olympics. That's right. Becomes the.

first black woman to play for the US. women's national team. >> Hell yeah. >> At the Olympic Games, she's going to be. out there in Milan uh supporting or. representing the US of A. And even. cooler, our hometown, Cleveland Heights, Ohio. >> Congratulations, Ala Edwards. That wraps. up Stamp of the Week, brought to you by. HBO Max and The Pit Season 2, premiering. tomorrow night on HBO Max. >> Now, let's get to some Matt Damon. Jason, can you do the honors, please? >> I would love to, Trav. Thank you to our.

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KNOW HIM FROM GOODWILL HUNTING, THE. MARTIAN, THE OCEANS FRANCHISES, THE. TALENTED MR. RIPLEY, THE BORN. FRANCHISES, SAVING PRIVATE [screaming]. RIDE, THE DEPORTED, FOR IN FIRST. FERRARI, AIR OPPENHEIMER. GOSH DANG, I. was running out of movies. Here we go. and his NEW MOVIE, THE RIP, IS ON. NETFLIX STARTING JANUARY 16TH. 92ENTERS, PLEASE WELCOME. WELL, how about this? HOW ABOUT THEM APPLES? IT'S MATT. [screaming] DAVIS. >> LET'S GO. [laughter]. >> Thank you guys. That was awesome, Jason.

Thank you. I feel like I should run out. of the locker room and go hit somebody. >> Let's [ __ ] go. That's That's all. we're good at. [laughter]. >> Either doing that ourselves or. motivating people to do it. It's all we. know. Dude, you're absolute iconic, brother. And and we can't thank you. enough for for spending some time. The. rip is unbelievable, man. >> It is. >> Thank you guys. I'm fired up that you. guys saw. You guys are the first people. to see it. So, this is that's great. news. That's great for me to hear. Yeah, we've we haven't shown many people at. all. It hasn't come out yet. So, and.

this is the first interview I'm doing. for it. So, this is very very cool. >> I live a [ __ ] dumb life, man. Dude, that this [laughter] move this movie is. ridiculous, man. It had me on the edge. of my seat the entire time. And it's. it's based off of a lot of the facts are. based off a true story. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It starts with a true. story and then we take dramatic license. from there. But but you know there are. these this this program in Miami where. where you know they take tips to go get. money that's kind of uh they seize money. that's got by like illotten gains, you.

know, like drug money and stuff like. that. And so they'll hit these houses. They have dogs that that don't smell for. drugs. They just smell for money. and. they have these teams that go um sees. sees this stuff and and one of the rules. down there is you got to count it on. site, you know, just to make sure that. none of it ends up in anybody's pocket. and that everybody's on the up and up. And so they count it and they're very. very serious about it. And um and and. there was one of these ones that they. went on where they were expecting to. find a couple hundred grand and there.

was over $20 million in the walls of. this house. [laughter]. >> It's crazy. >> So that's kind of where our our. [clears throat] movie is about that. like it's about this team of people, but. you already know there are rumblings. that there might be some corruption or. there might be some bad apples who are. working with people outside. And then. they go in, they find this $20 million. and they know it's cartel money. So. they're like, "Oh my god, they're going. to come back for it." And so they it. turns into that kind of, you know, like. a thriller where they're where they're. where they're they know they got to they. got to stay on site, but they know that. the site is kind of compromised.

>> Yeah, absolutely. When do you first get. pissed about this or is this are you at. the point now that this is your baby? like how how did you get involved with. this? >> So Ben and I have a studio like a now. Artist Equity and and um and so we're. small but we but we're kind of a. full-ervice studio and so people are. starting to become aware of that and. coming to us with projects and this came. to us through Joe Carneahan who um he. directed Narc a long time ago uh a movie. the gray he direct he's directed a bunch. of movies. Yeah. >> Ben did Smok and Aces with him actually. about 15 or 20 years ago. So, we've.

known Joe for a really long time and he. just sent this over to us and we read it. and we were like, "This is great. We. we'd love to make it." And then as we. kind of were working on it with Joe, we. were kind of like, "Well, why don't we. just all do it together?" [laughter]. >> We're all old friends and we were like, "This would be really fun." And and um. and so that that's kind of how how this. one came to pass. >> Yeah, it it's fantastic. And the way it. all comes together at the end and the. armored vehicle and like you guys that. is like. >> cinema, dude. It's so [ __ ] cool, man.

>> I got to say you in the movie you. convince uh Ben to go after a large sum. of money. Well, you guys think it's a. smaller sum of money and ends up being. larger. What's the dumbest thing as. lifelong friends you've convinced Ben to. do in [laughter] your friendship? So. good. >> Oh my god, that's a great question, [laughter] man. God, our whole life is a. stupid. We We were like 14 and 16 years old and. we were going to New York auditioning, taking the bus and going down there.

Literally, it the journey would take us. seven hours to get there. We'd walk in. and we called it getting Okay, thanks. Cuz you'd do an audition, you do the. best you could, and the person would. just go, "Okay, thanks." And 5. [laughter] minutes you're out the door. and you're back on the bus going like, "Ah, I don't think that went too well.". you know, like [laughter]. so our whole life has been I mean, if. you the odds of it working out were were. so long against and working out for both. of us like I I don't I mean God we've.

done so much stupid [ __ ] in our lives, but [laughter]. the whole idea was kind of dumb to begin. with. I think. >> that's Yeah, I mean it's amazing really. I at what point did you guys realize. that like what was your first big break. that you knew we were going to be able. to do this? Well, it's tough to say big. break because I think we thought every. break like the fir like we got a TJ Maxx. commercial and we were like this is it, [laughter] man. >> Let's go. >> No, let's go. >> Um and then, you know, and then we. started to get little parts. Then we. started to get um bigger parts, but we.

were getting told by casting directors. and stuff, we'd go in and read and. they'd go, "You're not right for this, but you you should keep going." So, we. were getting kind of signals that that. that we were in the right, you know, area code. Um, but then like when we. sold Goodwill Hunting, when we sold the. screenplay that we we thought that was. absolutely it and we were like broke a. year later, you know, [laughter] like. >> really after that. >> Crazy, dude. >> Yeah. We we I mean, not broke broke, I.

mean, but like [clears throat] here I'll. put I I mean, I guess I So, we sold the. screenplay for 600 grand, right? which. was just so much more money than either. of us had ever considered. It was like. which we split, right? And then but. after taxes and agent, lawyer and all. that stuff. >> I get it. Yeah. >> So now now we're down under 150 each and. the first thing we did was buy brand new. Jeep Grand Cherokees. Oh yeah.

>> Now we had and we were renting this. place in LA. you like we you know it. didn't take long for us to be like dude. we got to get another job [laughter]. >> you know. >> we can't just survive on that. Let me. ask just for reference, do you know what. Goodwill Hunting has grossed in its like. time? >> When it came out, I think it was like. 220 something in the theater, but I I. have no idea what it did after that. Like they cuz they relic it and they you. know, >> that's one of them that's just continued. because it's just such an amazing film.

>> Actually, with our with our studio, you. know, that's one of the things we're we. really fight for is reversion rights. Like Ben called me a couple years ago. and he goes, you know, The Town just got. rellicensed for 35 million bucks. Um. because which just means that he made a. great movie and people are still. watching it. Um and he, you know, he at. the time like that movie made a fortune. It made it did all this stuff, but he he. was on a flat salary and he didn't, you. know, I don't even think he made a. million bucks for that movie and he. wrote it, directed it, star, you know,

starred in it. >> Crazy. >> It was one of those things. So, but it's. like, you know, our view was like, look, if if you do something like that as as. one of the real contributors to it, then. like if there's money kind of in. perpetuity, then you should you should. be a part of that. So, >> hell yeah. >> I mean, it only sounds right, man. >> Yeah. Yeah. Sounds fair. [laughter]. >> Seriously, though. Speaking of uh movies. you guys have have been in, uh when was. the first movie you guys worked on. together? Was it was it Field of Dreams?

Uh we there were yeah we were extras in. Field of Dreams. That was that was. [laughter] one. But I think even before. that there was a movie um that Diane. Keaton and Liam Niss starred in uh that. a little movie called The Good Mother. and that shot uh in Boston and Ben and I. and Casey, his little brother, we were. all extras in that. And I think there's. still a shot in that movie of Liam Niss. walking past us. Ben and I I don't think. have hit puberty yet. We're like 51. [laughter]. and and Liam's a big dude. He's like 65.

66 and and we walked past him on on on a. street at one point. Um so that might. have been the first moment we were uh we. were actually on screen together. >> We got to find that one. [laughter]. >> I don't I don't know. I don't know where. it is. I just remember going to the. movie and Ben and I were like, "We're in. it. We're in it. We really [laughter]. >> That's so cool, man.". >> Well, while we're talking movies, uh. you're in something else that's coming. up, too. We got the rip coming up, but. we also have the Odyssey. Is that Is. that correct?

>> Yeah. July. >> Are you Odysius? Who are you in the. Odyssey? >> I'm Odysius. Yeah. >> There we go. All right. All right. >> I had a beard like yours for for like. >> I think I've seen the pictures. You were. getting pretty yolked up in some of the. pictures I saw too circulating the. internet. >> Yeah. I I I lo I I was in really good. shape. I lost a lot of weight. Like he. said he he wanted me like lean but. strong. >> Lean but strong. >> Yeah. Lean but strong. And so I like. it's a weird thing. I I uh I don't want. to bore the [ __ ] out of you, but like I.

>> none of this is boring at all. >> Literally like stopped eating just. because of this other thing I did with. my doctor. Stopped eating gluten. >> and I lost like I used to walk around at. between 185 and 200. >> Yeah. >> And and and I did that whole movie at. 167. >> Holy cow. >> And I haven't been that light since high. school. Like Yeah. Yeah. So, it was a. lot of training and a really strict. diet. >> I was going to say, so when you get you. get asked by the director or whoever.

asked uh you to to be at that size and. and strength and that lean built, do you. then like go out and source a trainer. that that gets you to that point or do. you already have somebody in in mind? >> Well, I have somebody but it's just, you. know, yeah, trainers are like, "What are. we doing?" And they can kind of do. anything. Um, you know, and it's just. knowing it's just having kind of a clear. goal and and and setting it. It felt. actually more it's like when I do that. or when I did you do like the Jason. Bourne movies or whatever, it feels. almost like like a season in a in a I.

would imagine what that feels like for. you guys where you're preparing you you. know it's like just part of your day. It's part of your job, right? And it's. like yeah and you get really routinized. about it and really and kind of build. your day around all that stuff and. >> um Yeah. Yeah. That's that's that's kind. of the physical side of of getting. ready. >> Have you had gluten since? >> I haven't. >> I'm staying strong. >> I'm done. I'm done. I'm gluten-free. everything. I found a gluten-free beer.

>> Nice. There we go. >> How about it? >> All right. >> It's been so long since I've had gluten, I can't tell if it's good or not. So, that's that's that's a good sign. >> It's working. It's working. Well, the. trailer for uh The Odyssey got over. 121.4 4 million views in the first 24. hours. More than double Oenheimer got, which was pretty successful. What What. do you think has so many people psyched. up about this film? >> Wow. Well, I think for I mean, obviously. Chris, you know, you know, Chris Nolan,

um, you know, I think everybody feels I. mean, I I'm I'm a fan, too. I I just. love the movies that he makes and and um. and also, you know, the just the way, you know, the way he insists on shooting. them, you know, on this one was 100% on. IMAX. It was the first movie that was. ever done all on IMAX. >> Okay. >> Like IMAX cameras are really loud. Like. it sounds like a blender, like a quezin. art in your face when this camera's. close to really. >> Yeah. Yeah. And that's why so there's.

never been these dialogues like we. couldn't have this conversation with a. normal IMAX camera cuz you wouldn't be. able to hear us. >> Yeah. >> But they built this giant thing around. the IMAX for those dialogue scenes and. and like a system of mirrors so you. could look at, you know, so your ey line. would be close to the camera and you. could talk to the other actor and like. like the amount of work that went into. figuring out how to do cuz he wanted to. do it 100% IMAX. Um. >> and he did it. So, it's like really. ambitious kind of ideas that he has and.

like on the technical side and then just. there were locations that we went that. we shot in where I we would get there. and I'd just start laughing. I'd be like. nobody has any business shooting here. like but like [laughter] of course he. wants to shoot here. Yeah, that makes. that tracks, you know. Um. [clears throat] but we do he has such a. great crew. like his crew is so badass. and and everybody just maxed out on that. movie and and you know and and we made. all of our days. We actually finished. ahead of schedule like we it was just it.

was an awesome experience. >> That's awesome. Hell yeah. >> I haven't seen it yet, you know? I mean. I've seen the trailer like you have but. um that's about it. >> Is that the way So how how far before. the theatrical release do you guys get. to watch it? Like is there or do you try. and like wait until that moment? >> No, it depends. There there are some a. lot of directors, you know, if I'm doing. a movie with Ben, I'm in the editing. room with him the whole time. And um and. there are some directors who, you know, who who like to work that way. Um Chris.

has a process that's very, you know, he's he's he's screening the movie all. the time to to people outside the. business. He's try he's very he's. grinding away at it. And so I'll see it. probably in in in a couple months. >> um you know um before it's done. And I. mean Clint Eastwood, like I remember. Clint Eastwood showed me I did two. movies with Clint and that was just he. he screened it for me like a week before. the premiere, but like it wasn't like he. was going to take notes. [laughter].

>> He's like, I hope you like it, you know? [laughter]. >> And so people have all different ways of. working and and it's a director's medium. really, right? like they really are the. boss and and you know but it can feel. it's it or I look at it like a. partnership but you're the jun I'm the. junior partner right so I want to give. every good idea that I want to I want to. be as helpful as possible but at the end. of the day it's it's their name on the. movie it really is their you know. they're the ones who are really kind of.

ruthlessly judged um I mean I know. actors are too but but in in our world. it's really about the director. >> that's awesome man. >> yeah man All right. [snorts] Well, do. you want to get into some Boston sports, maybe? Let's do it, baby. >> All right. >> Think about that. I I'm I I'm a little. nervous about the Chargers. I mean, they're You know, I. >> They got some ball players over there, man. They got some ball players, man. >> They really do. They got some really. great players, but so do we. And And I. love I love Vrabel, man. Oh my god. I. love that guy. >> They got a good one. You guys got a good.

one. >> Unbelievable. I can't believe. >> this will be the battle of the minds. between him and Harbaugh, man. It really. will, man. Both of those guys. guys. I. got so much respect for both of those. guys. And uh obviously uh did you have. you you you ran into Braves before? >> Uh no, I've never met him. I've never. met him. I've I've. >> a legend, dude. >> I've blown my voice out cheering for him. like over [laughter] the years, but I've. never met him. And uh you know, he just. seems awesome. like all the the and the. way he deals. It's like he took all of. the best of Bichc and he's putting it.

through the filter of himself and he and. it's like, you know, everybody lo. everybody loves the guy and and Drake. May is unbelievable, you know, he's just. he seems he seems to have that Tom thing. where he just doesn't get rattled. >> He's got this ability to kind of feel. comfortable and almost Tom Tom was. unbelievable at dictating the tempo of a. game. like it every game that I felt. like I I played against him, it just. felt like he always had like we were. going at his pace, right? >> And and Drake kind of has that that feel. to him, especially when he's clicking,

>> you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he's what 23, >> you know, so he's just just going to get. better. So, I mean, I can't believe we. got this lucky in New England to have. >> you guys had a three-year playoff. drought and all of a sudden you got. another franchise quarterback. >> It's nuts. It's I feel terrible. >> Figured out. [laughter]. >> It's like people in Green Bay where they. go from Brett Favre to Aaron Rogers and. you're like, "Come on, when does that. happen?" But um but no, it's it it it's. it's it's unbelievable. And and given.

that my whole childhood we sucked so. bad, like the Patriots [laughter] were. just. >> Dude, I mean that was our childhood. We. we grew we grew up in Cleveland, so. >> Oh, right. Yeah. Right. [laughter]. Yeah, man. >> They still They're still not doing very. good, but. >> they got some great players over there, though. They do. Just. >> How about Miles Garrett, man? Unbelievable. >> Heck of a year. Heck of a year. >> That's the last guy I'm trying to block. >> I'll tell you what, he's the physically. probably the most gifted football player. I've ever played football against. He's. really. >> Oh my gosh, >> Matt, when you line up against him, it.

feels like you're going up against a. Power Ranger like some like or some. [laughter] unearly like, >> yeah, >> mighty morphin like dude. I'm just like. I get in front of him just like, man, this guy knows that the coach is not. about to put me in a position to block. this dude. >> [laughter]. >> Please, coach. >> That's amazing. How about Aaron Donald? He was the other one, right? That. >> that's the one Jason got a got a good. taste of. >> Aaron was the hardest guy I had to. block. I didn't really ever have to. block Miles like that. And even Aaron, luckily, we were double team most of the. time, so I didn't have to block him.

one-on-one, but Aaron just didn't have. he had his own physical traits, which. were very good. Like, he was incredibly. strong and explosive. Miles has all. that, but then he also has the length. just he's a bigger size person. Yeah, it's. >> it's kind of crazy when you think about. both of those guys playing at the same. time. They were. >> the two most gifted defensive players I. played against for sure. >> And I I think another thing that it. feels like Miles has done better with. this year, Aaron also had this mentality.

where he just was relentless. He no. matter what you did, he would not stop. He kept going. >> He ever got tired. He was He was like. mad at you the entire time. Like what. are you mad AT ME IF I DIDN'T DO. ANYTHING? [laughter] I'M JUST TRYING TO. DO MY JOB, DUDE. I'M REALLY DOING BUT HE. WAS LIKE PISSED if you And it feels like. Miles feels like he was more of that. this year. Like there was a. relentlessness to Miles that I think you. felt all season long from him. And with. those traits and that mentality, you saw. an incredible season from him for sure. But I do want to ask you this. How do.

you think the Patriots will do in the. playoffs? Is it in like in New England? Is it are you guys so spoiled that it's. like if they don't win the Super Bowl, you guys are going to be upset or is. this like Yeah. Okay. All right. Go. ahead. Go. >> Not at all. I mean, this is a new This. is a new team, right? And I think I. think this is like found money for us, right? Like I feel like it's [laughter]. >> it's like it's. QUARTERBACK. >> $20 MILLION QUARTERBACK SITTING IN THE. WALL. >> HE BROKE IN AND took the sledgehammer.

and there was Drake May. [laughter]. >> Yeah. No. Well, and I I I feel I don't. know person I can't speak for everybody. in New England, but look, if we get. bounced in the first round, I still. think this is a massive year for us, right? It's like, okay, so like the. future is really bright for us with the. coach that we have with that with the. with the organization and like with with. Bob Kra, with the way that whole thing. is set up and with that quarterback and. those I mean, I feel like we're in a. really good spot. Obviously, we want to. see him go as far as they can, but.

nobody's going to be like, you know, oh, this is [ __ ] if they don't if they. don't, you know what I mean? It's like. nobody was expecting them to be there. I. mean, we were expecting to kind of run. into this Buffalo wall for years, right? >> Um, and that wall is still there, by the. way. That team will be that team's still. very. >> Josh isn't going anywhere. >> He's unbelievable. And so, it's fun. It'll be competitive. I was talking to a. buddy of mine. And I was like, "This. year has been so much fun because there. are like 10 teams who could win the. Super Bowl and you'd be like, I'm not. surprised." You know, >> it really is, man.

>> It's so fun. You know, >> it's so wide open. >> When you have those like New England. dynasties or Kansas City dynasties, it's. not fun for anybody else. It's only fun. for [laughter] us. >> Well done. Well done with that. I do. Every time I I I thought the whole year. like the Patriots, it feels like they're. a few pieces away. like I'm like ah they. don't really have this the kind of level. of talent you think they need but they. just every week they find a way to win. and I'm with you this the more I watch. Drake May the more I'm just like so.

impressed with his tempo he makes. everything look easy like when he's back. there and he throws the ball. >> like it's the simplest decision he had. to make right. >> it's like it's like why is this game so. easy to. >> Yeah this guy makes it look. >> that's right it feels it's like. inevitable it's like oh obviously that. was going to happen you know yeah It's. It shouldn't be that It shouldn't look. that easy. >> No. >> Well, speaking of uh Patriot. quarterbacks, Ben obviously friend of. the show. He was on here talking about. uh the greatest moment of his life other. than the birth of his children was.

running routes with Breed. [laughter]. >> I can't believe he got to do that, >> dude. >> I can't believe he got to do that. >> And the the way he told the story was. >> I got mad. I was like, you're going to. [ __ ] up his timing. You're so slow. [laughter]. >> Like, don't play catch with Brady unless. you're just standing still. like don't. do that. But yeah, no, I can't. I'm. jealous he got to do that. >> I was going to say, what's your what's. your best or your favorite Boston sports. moment? >> Well, mine's super personal cuz I cuz I. the my best Boston sports moment.

actually was was uh in 1999 at the. celebrity at the All-Star game, I did. the hitting challenge thing, but then. that night they let us onto the field to. take batting practice at midnight. And I. what? >> And my dad was a pitcher. He was a. left-handed pitcher and and he uh and we. were taking batting practice. He was. trying to get he wanted me to hit the. ball. He wasn't trying to strike me out, but I hit one off the green monster off. my dad, >> which was like and I literally it.

happened and we both looked at each. other and I was like, I'll never need. therapy in my life [laughter] like that. >> I'll just go back to this moment. >> That was it. We're good. >> That's so [ __ ] cool. But in terms of. the great teams like I like there's so. many uh you know so many unbelievable. moments and yeah and Brady gave us oh my. god him alone that guy just gave us 20. years of him so we we're we're. >> you know we don't deserve Drake May. we'll take him [laughter]. >> that's so iconic man.

>> Have you ever gotten any working with. Brady? Have you met Tom? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know him. I I I've. met him a bunch over the years and like. Yeah. He's he he just I don't know to me. for you guys cuz you you guys excel at. that championship level and to me it. always strikes me across anything that. you do it's always the people who do the. extra work the extra thing like oh. >> I remember the year after we went New. England went 18-1 and we lost to the. Giants in the Super Bowl and I had. dinner with Tom and a bunch of guys.

>> and you know they they brought a bottle. of red wine around and everyone's. getting a glass of red wine and Tom's. like no and I looked at him I was like, "Really?" I'm like, "It's May. Like, your camp starts in like 2 months." And. he was like, "No." Like, he was just. like he was in that like I'm I'm. my life. I'm going to live my commitment. to this thing, you know what I mean? And. and he he just had that insane. discipline and and uh. >> I took my nephew to a game once down in. Miami. We were living down there and my. nephew played football. It was played,

you know, in the in the in the little uh. Pemroke Pines League down in Miami. And. I took him and I was like, "Tom, I'm. bringing my nephew." He was nine at the. time. And and we get to the, you know, we're we're down on the field, everybody's warming up, and he's like, "Am I going to get to meet Tom?" And I'm. like, "Probably not now. Maybe after the. game." Like, "Look, he's he's about to. go to work. You know, Troy, this is a. real you he's working right now. This is. a serious." Sure enough, Tom comes. running over. He's like already. sweating. He's just warmed up. My. nephew's sitting on the on the bench and.

he's he's sitting at the end of the. bench and Tom runs up to him and gets in. his face and he's like, >> "You going to root for me today, Troy?". >> Are you kidding me? >> He's looking up at him and he just. [laughter] can't talk. >> And he just nods. He just nods. And Tom. goes Tom Ghost gets in his face like. they're both 9 years old and goes, "We're going to KILL THESE GUYS.". [laughter]. DUDE, HE'S ICONIC, DUDE. >> He couldn't have meant it more either. I.

was unbelievable. And then he runs off. to the locker room. I was like, "That. was the greatest thing I've EVER SEEN.". [laughter]. LIKE, >> but it was like two nineyear-olds. talking to each other. >> Hell yeah. We're going to [ __ ] smoke. it. >> Yeah. Literally that I mean, there might. have been an Fbomb in there. >> for sure. >> Yeah. Got to make sure he feels it. You. gotta make sure. >> Yeah. [laughter]. He's got to know. >> Um, how do you rank your uh Boston. sports fandoms by the sport? Socks, Pats, Celtics, Bruins. >> That's tough. I would definitely say Red.

Sox kind of for for me growing up, that. was the thing. Like that was the. definitely um the top and the sport I. played the most. Um and then basketball. I played a lot too. So So if you you. know if you had asked me uh when I was. growing up, I would have said baseball, basketball, football, hockey. But when I. look at I just because I guess braid. everybody we just bought into that like. everybody got so caught up in like. >> oh you get wrapped in it I'm sure.

>> Yeah we got said if I actually think of. what I spent more time watching like the. last 20 years probably football. >> Yeah. Yeah. Not including football. Who. is your favorite uh Boston sports. athlete? Like who who's your guy from. growing up that you're like that's my. like Travis's is Carlos Berga from the. Cleveland [laughter] Indians. Shout out. to Carlos, man. >> I got I got Carlton Fisk. >> He was he was uh. >> on the mantle. Let's go. >> Yeah. Yeah. It [laughter] was a big part.

of like we wrote the whole scene in. Goodwill Hunting about him and and uh. there's a whole kind of reference to him. in that movie. And there was a whole. team, you know, in 7778. those guys like I, you know, I used to. go through, you know, we have batting. practice and I'd go through all their. stances from each side of the like I. just knew, you know, that those those. were my guys. >> All of it, man. Go to the game, get the. get the program, start to keep score in. the back, man. >> Yeah. It's just the best. >> Well, let me ask you this. Where's you. mentioned the Green Monster? I I was.

fortunate to like go get a tour at that. ballpark when I was uh visiting Boston. in high school for some reason. What. where's the best place to sit in that. stadium? Like it's such an it's like. that and Wrigleyfield are like the two. baseball stadiums that are the most. iconic. What What's the best uh seat in. the stadium? You think. >> there are a lot of them actually. depending on I mean now like the what. the what they've done now by putting. seats up on the green monster like that. that's insane up there. I I went to I. sat in the kind of the last box next to.

those seats a couple years ago uh when I. when I went up and and that was that was. absolutely crazy. >> I was fortunate enough I went to uh when. they were doing the the oneame wildcard. uh playoff scenarios. Boston actually. played the Yankees in at at Fenway. I. was there and they they won one nothing. I was actually sitting up on the Green. Monster. >> No way. >> With with a bunch of the air. I sat on. the green monster and literally saw a. line drive come probably 10 feet from or.

10 yards from me. It's it and when it. hit that monster, dude, it felt like, dude, it was boom. And everybody's going. nuts, dude. It was that Boston's a. unbelievable sports town, man. >> Did they leave you alone up there on the. monster? >> Uh, yeah. It wasn't too bad. Some of. some of the Air Force had some fun with. me, but um yeah, it was it [laughter]. was all that, dude. I'm here for it, man. I'm here for it. What are you doing. here, bro? >> YEAH, EXACTLY. >> THERE WE GO. [laughter]. >> You already know. It was epic, dude. I'm.

I'm here for the chatter anyway. All. day, baby. How much do you hate Jason. and the Eagles for beating the Pats in. Super Bowl 52? >> Come on, T. >> Well, I Well, congratulations, J. I I. still don't understand why he didn't put. Malcolm Butler in the game. I will never. understand that. >> Fair question. >> Like, I because I think Did we punt that. game? I don't know if we we might have. punted him once. >> Was a highscoring game. >> Tom Tommy threw for like 500 and. something yards. Nobody ever. performance. Yeah,

>> it was just unreal. And like we just. needed to stop you. Like we never. stopped you, Jason. >> One of the best Super Bowls ever, man. >> I think we punted once and I think that. was the only punt if I remember. correctly. >> I wonder actually. I'll bet you I I'll. tell you what, man. We might have punted. if we punted at all. We punted once. probably. that there's that's probably. got to be the record for the least punts. in a Super Bowl. >> Well, it was it was the highest scoring. game and then I think we broke the game. that record again when we played Travis.

in the Super Bowl. I think that was the. only other one that got higher scoring. or something like that. But Tom's Day, that was his best Super Bowl of his. career. >> Yeah, the Patriots did that punt. Patriots didn't Yeah, the punters were. both punters were. >> having a having a Coke and some popcorn. on the sideline that game. >> It's a fair question. He never he never. answered it though. Like that's why I. always wondered about that. Like what. the There was something personal. There. was something weird because it's like. why does a guy play 99% of the snaps and. then you tell him while the national.

anthem's playing caliber man. >> and then you got to switch everybody. around to different positions like that. they haven't played. It's like they're. suddenly for the past two weeks. >> Yeah. I just some weird about it, man. I. I could never figure that out. didn't. he? I think he he got in trouble for. like missing a meeting or something like. that, didn't he? There was something. leading up to it meeting. >> I know. >> I agree. [laughter] I agree. But this is. this kind of like tell me tell me what I. missed. >> It's also the thing like your way. though. You can't be missing meetings.

You know, >> but but then maybe after the first. quarter when when you can't stop their. offense, maybe you're like, "Okay, you. learned your lesson. Get [laughter] in. there." Or maybe after the first half, okay, now I've really, you know, I've. proved my point. [laughter] But like. will you never put the dude in? >> It really is actually I think more. selfish not to play the best guy cuz. like everybody else wants to win. >> By the way, the Pat the Patriots way is. do your job, right? The Patriots way is. you got 53 guys who gave up absolutely. everything. They gave they sacrificed.

everything and you're and that's your. whole thing. And so like what does it. say if like you have an axe to grind. with somebody that you're not going to. play him? Like it's just. >> Exactly. It's your point. It's kind of. selfish. >> It feels weird. Yeah, it definitely. feels like there was. >> ego. Ego is the enemy of everything. That's my That's my It really is like It. certainly in my line of work like if if. you can't just like your allegiance has. to be to the best idea. Like you're all. >> you're all a lesser part of the thing. you're making and and you got to put.

that first. And if if you do that, if. everyone does that, it's going to be. everything's going to work out. Have you. felt like you've been able to do that. your whole career or do you get to a. point where you've been through that. enough where it's like all right. selfishly I want to go in I feel like. this is the best thing but in order to. for this to work out the best we really. need to operate together in a different. uh. >> no I I never feel like those things are. like mutually exclusive. I never feel I. always feel like my best interest is.

aligned with making the thing that we're. making as as good as we can make it and. and [clears throat]. >> and that it requires everybody to have. that attitude and so like when I when I. hear stories I've never I don't think. I've ever been on a set where somebody. was really misbehaving or anything like. that was happening. I hear those I'm. like mystified by those stories. I'm. like. >> man. >> the [ __ ] was that person doing like like. you know what [laughter] I mean? Like. it's all about like. >> just trying to make the thing as good as. you can make it and it's a collaborative. project. >> Hell yeah. Be a good teammate, man.

>> Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And with a. director who is the director. It's like. a benevolent dictatorship. Like the. director [laughter]. basically. >> get 51%. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. At 51%. >> Coach Andy Andy Reed's the director. [laughter]. >> Exactly. >> He's getting 51%. THIS IS [ __ ]. TRAVIS, shut up. Got it. [laughter]. Exactly. There you go. But if you really. like that guy, right, you know, or. woman, if you really like that fear that. you have, right, then that's that's a. perfect deal because because you're. because you're never going to be.

misaligned with them cuz you kind of see. things the same way. >> Yeah, absolutely. That's cool to hear. It kind of translates into into your. line of work and your world too, man. I. think like the the older I get, the more. crossover there is kind of in all this. stuff about like how you approach stuff. And it makes me think about how to talk. to my kids about that and like whatever. they want to do, you know, these these. things will uh will kind of bear have. bearing across all you know all of these. different kind of disciplines cuz um. because they kind of work for.

everything. >> Yeah. >> Um hey is it too are you are you have. you announced Trav you're going to keep. playing is there still are you is that a. big secret at this point? Do you take. time at this point? Like the. >> Yeah, I think I'm just going to take. some time, let it let it kind of fizzle. out, let everything happen, get away. from the game. Uh first time I've not. had a job in January in a long time. So, I'm going to go ahead and enjoy, you. know, hanging out with some family and. yeah, putting my feet up, watching some. football, seeing how this this crazy. anybody can win it uh type of season uh.

plays out. Um, but yeah, I'm I'm just. trying to figure it all out myself and. um I'll do that with the with the the. family and friends and you know. >> No. Yeah. Yeah. No, I it's a big. decision. I remember uh Michael Strahan. years ago came came over to watch the. Super Bowl and he was thinking about. retiring and and uh and we're the same. age and I was like, "Come on, man. You're we're in our prime. You're you. know, and. >> he was like, "Look, it t it takes a lot. to get ready. You know, there's a lot of. work that goes into it." And you know,

he was telling me and I kept pushing, kept pushing. Finally, he turns to me. He goes, "Matt, I get in 35 car. accidents a week." [laughter]. >> And he's the one doing that. >> Well, yeah. So, yeah, he's he's. initiating them. Yeah. But that that's a. real consideration like, you know, and. and it's easy to sit at home and enjoy. watching you guys play and be like, why. don't they play another season? [laughter]. >> Yeah. You know what I mean? When when. you get the call when you're 45 like. Philip Rivers, baby.

>> God, how good was that? You're never out. of it. Win for him. >> Everyone loved it, dude. We all wanted. him to go and [ __ ] get him into the. playoffs or at least put up some dubs. and um Yeah, man. That [ __ ] was epic. >> He did a good job. >> as a He did I thought he did do a really. good job and as a granddad, man, I was. like unbelievable. Like that's. >> insane. >> Yeah. With his high school team. watching. [laughter]. >> I thought epic playing the the game was. awesome to watch. But then even his. comments after the game about just like. not being afraid and like facing like I. just think it was. >> Yeah. having that courage. Yeah,

>> man. He's such a just a the pinnacle of. what a quarterback and like a football. player is. So, it was awesome to see him. back out there. >> It is also cool to see guys like you. guys get so much better at your job. It's such a weird thing because you guys. get better at your job, but your skills, you know, decline as you age. And so, >> mentally, mentally, you keep going this. way. Unfortunately, the physical aspects. start going down. when he got out there, he looked like he hadn't missed a beat. Like he the game was slow for him. He. was like, "No, I know what this I've. seen that before. I know what they're. going to do.". >> Like he was in control. Yeah.

>> Yeah. Totally. So that was really that. was really cool. I've always thought. that's a tough part of of you know the. the athletes life is is um I talked to a. baseball player once who was kind of a. journeyman second baseman and he was. retire he was like 37 and he was he was. retiring and and I said, "What. happened?" And he was like, well, he's. like, look, my bread and butter was a 95. mph fast. And and he goes, someone threw. me a 95 mph fast. My eyes got big and I.

swung and I was late. And I looked at. the catcher and the catcher looked at me. and then I looked at the pitcher and he. goes, "And he gave me another one and I. was late again." He goes, "You. [clears throat] struck me out on three. pitches." He goes, "And then, you know, there with all the analytics, they're. all looking at." He goes, "Within two. weeks I was out of the league." Like. everybody was throwing this fast ball. And and he goes, "The sad thing for me. is that I I" He goes, "I know more about. hitting now." He goes, "If you if you. put my 37y old brain in my 21-year-old. body, I'd be in the Hall of Fame.". >> Yeah. It's crazy to imagine like that,

but you're Yeah, >> that's a crazy thing cuz I was I was. about his age and I was like, I'm just. getting into the meat of my career now. Like this is this is getting more and. more fun. And um yeah, it's that's it's. a tough decision, man. It's a tough. decision. So, I feel for you. Whatever. you make is going to be the right. decision, though. >> Like we said earlier, man, this is a. silly life I get to live, brother. So. whe whether whether I'm coming back on. the field or not, man, I'm I'm I'm still. living it to the fullest, man. >> Well, and you guys this is great, too. This whole forum and everything that you.

guys made here is like it's like see. there's a lot, you know, it was like. like Straanne said to me years ago, you. know, like he he had there was another. life after that he that he was excited. about too. So. >> Oh, yeah. and Strays, man, he's been a. awesome dude to me since I've been in. the league and helped me uh numerous. offseasons trying to figure things out. So, shout out to Stray for always. looking out, man. >> Thank you to our partner HBO Max. >> The Pit is back with a brand new season. tomorrow, January 8th, at 900 p.m.

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but you don't have to answer. You can. tell us to [ __ ] off. Um, you were. talking about uh your kids earlier as a. fellow father of four girls. Uh, what is. your piece? What is your best piece of. girl dad advice for Jason over here? >> Man, I got nothing. I got nothing for. you. [laughter]. >> You're in it. You're in it. I heard. before we started, I heard the kids in. the back. I was like, "Oh my god." You. know, I do I do have to say it that you. know, there was a you guys went to eat. or uh at least your your wife did at a.

restaurant in Montana. Ming Ming Sai is. the chef there and Ming's a friend of. mine and he told and this was the. greatest thing. He goes, "Jason Kelsey's. wife. >> is A ROCK STAR." [laughter]. >> YEAH. >> He literally was like, she came in. He. goes, "She's got like an eight-month-old. on one arm. She's got a toddler here. She had she had four kids hanging off. her. He was like, "She is a boss." It. was [laughter] like, >> it was very, very cool. So, I I don't. think I need to give you any advice cuz. it sounds like you married the right. woman and.

>> she's a boss, you know. >> She is a boss and she's got to deal with. me, too. A fifth kid. She doesn't even. Yeah, [laughter]. I unfortunately missed that cuz I do. Monday Night Football, but uh I heard uh. she's phenomenal. She's incredible with. the kids. The only bit of advice. whenever I get I get asked that. question, too. And my first thing I tell. people with advice with kids is don't. listen to any advice anybody else gives. You know, like [laughter]. >> you gotta pick, they're all so. different. I don't know how you feel. about yours, but the moment one comes. out, they're like more sensitive. This.

one's a little bit more like. rambunctious. Like every single one of. them is like their own person. And it's. like right away. Like the moment they. start talking, it feels like they're. different. >> Man, I I used to have I used to be a. real, you know, in that nature nurture. argument. I I but I'm now on this like. nature like that's a thing. [clears throat]. >> you know like your kids show up like. that spirit that soul is. >> there and it's going to do what it's. going to do and and and the nurture part. is very important you're going to be a. doubt helping with that but.

>> but they really are who they are like. right away and and and uh it's that's. like been a profound and they and as. they grow older you still see in their. infant face you still see them as their. >> oh wow. >> it's. >> the only thing I'd An old friend of mine. said when my when my 19-year-old was. probably 18 months said, "Don't blink. >> Don't blink." And then that and that is. that [ __ ] is real. My daughter broke her. collar bone and and uh this morning she. was getting ready for school. She's 17.

and she asked me to brush her hair. And so I I brushed her hair and I man it. was a mo like I hadn't brushed her hair. I don't know eight nine years. You know. what I mean? But but you're at that. stage now where it's like you get them. ready. It's like you're brushing you're. lined up and you got to get right and. and those and it's the great and I don't. remember the last time. >> that I don't remember when I brushed her. hair for the last time. It just kind of.

happened and then life kind of kept. going and the changes are so incremental. that like you don't realize until until. I I ran the hairbrush through her hair. and it's the same like all of it. It's. you know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> And it it buckled me, man. It's like, so, so don't blink. >> That's awesome. >> Okay. I like that. I like that a lot. All right. Um, you mentioned uh just a. second ago about how, you know, an. athlete learns more and they actually. know more. They wish they knew more when. they were younger. As an actor, writer, producer, is there something you know.

now that you really wish you knew when. you were young? >> Oh my god. Yeah. I mean, it's the. [laughter] same like it's like it's for. me. How would I would love to go back. and remake all the movies again, you. know what I mean? and and uh like I. remember, you know, working with Steven. Spielberg early on in my career and. going like I don't know enough about. film making. >> to be next to this man right now. Like I. have so many questions and I don't know. what the right questions are yet. And so. I remember just following him around and.

just I remember everything that guy ever. said to me because I was trying to bank. it because I knew it was going to come. in handy. And then as you know in the. intervening 30 years or whatever I've I. I things that he said have come back as. I've kind of learned them and go oh man. that's what he was talking about you. know so those kind of things I I I. really got lucky and that I got to work. with some amazing people and I'd love to. be able to go back through that process. and work with even if I could just work. with the people that I've already worked. with again. Um there's so much I didn't. know and and uh.

>> and that's kind of the fun thing about. making movies. It's like it's it's it's. always a different job. The challenges. of a day are always different and u and. it's always fun. >> Battle of the unknown. Well, uh you're. talking about uh some of your previous. movies. Um friend of the show, George. Clooney, told us that. >> listen to anything that guy says. >> Everyone, you [laughter] guys are in. talks with another Oceans movie. >> Oh, okay. I thought he was going to play. some [ __ ] practical joke ON. [laughter]. >> I love that. That's immediately where it.

goes. He's just and he and and he'll do. the long ones that just go for you know. it's he set it up nine [laughter] years. ago. Um no. Yeah. Well, they're Yeah, they're talking about it. Um you know, I. don't know. We'll see. Uh you know, these there's always they're always. talking about it's a it's a it's a weird. business. You never know how things will. coalesce. And um I mean I'd love I love. that group of guys. And obviously we're. we're down a few now. Uh, you know, um, we've lost a couple over the years, but. like the there's a lot of love in that.

group for sure. So, yeah, if we can get. our [ __ ] together, that'd be a lot of. fun. >> Heck yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> We have a clip here from School Ties. where you play a football player. >> Oh, yeah. >> Would Would you mind breaking this play. down for us? >> Sure. [laughter]. >> Sure. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, let's go. >> YEAH. >> No bar, baby. Let's go. >> Run your ass off for me. It said block. your ass off. Yeah. Watch. Watch what. Brendan Fraser does to me.

>> Dude, look at Brendan Frasier. >> I really want to I really wanted to. score the touchdown. [clears throat]. >> Let's [laughter] go. >> But he's the good player. So, guess. what, MATT? [screaming]. >> YEAH, THAT'S THE team player. Team. player, [laughter] baby. >> This is This is legendary, dude. >> Yeah. Not only could I not do the cut. block, he actually had to throw me in to. the right position. >> Yeah, >> that was the first uh first feature film.

that I had a big role in. And Ben's in. that movie, too. That was a good It was. Ben Ben uh Ben Affleck's in that. Cole. Hower's in that. >> U Brendan Chris O'Donnell's in there. Like there's a really there's a there's. a hell of a group of guys, but we were. all 20 years old. [laughter]. >> That's crazy. >> That was awesome. when you made the. movie uh air. >> Yeah. >> Did you Did you get a chance to to meet. Mike? >> No. Ben Ben went down and talked to Mike. and I was supposed to go, but my kids.

had something that day. So, I stayed. here and uh and Ben went down to meet. Mike and because this was before we made. the deal to do it cuz we knew that if if. Mike didn't wasn't down with it, then. you know, >> you guys wanted to respect that. a. respected and b like there there would. be no like we'd put all this work into a. movie and then if if Jordan came out and. was like that's [ __ ] like the. movie's just dead. >> Yeah. No, I hear you. >> So, but we want we we wanted his his. blessing even though you know he wasn't.

going to be a part of it. It wasn't you. know we but Ben went down and talked to. him and and and a lot came out of that. meeting. In fact, he gave us kind of. people who were more instrumental than. we understood from the the original. script we read. So, we rewrote it. The. biggest thing he said was um cuz Ben. asked him about his his uh his parents. and he was like you know what you know. what what role did your dad play? What. do you and and and Mike said he go he. was like um my dad was a great guy and.

he goes my mom runs [ __ ] [laughter]. >> really? >> Yeah. And Ben was like really and he was. like yeah my mom runs [ __ ] And Ben was. portrayed for sure. >> He's like you he's like you want to try. to call my mother? He's like, "No, no.". Like, >> and and and Ben was like, "Okay, well, who should play your mother?" And before. he got mother out, Mike was like, "Viola. Davis.". >> Wow. >> Just knew it right away. >> Ben called me up from Florida where he. was meeting with him and he was like, "Dude, good news, bad news." I'm like,

"What?" He's like, "But we got Mike's. blessing." He's like, he's like, "We got. to rewrite the entire script because. it's all about it's it's all about his. mother." And I go, "Okay, you know, great." And he and he goes, "Oh," I go, "What's the bad news?" And he goes, "There's only one actor who" And I was. like, "Who?" And he's like, "Viola. Davis." And I'm like, "All right, >> you want me to call we got to call. American Treasure Viola Davis.". >> And be like, [laughter]. >> "Listen, we can't make this movie unless. you make it with us." So that was. [laughter]. >> there was a great young writer on that. on that uh project and and he we kind of.

rebuilt the whole thing around her. character. um and try to make a role. that was worthy of, you know, Viola. >> That's cool. >> That's awesome. Very cool. Very cool. Is. there anybody that you've worked with? You've worked with a lot of acting. legends, but is there anyone that you. were starruck with on set? >> Yeah, I mean, I think that's happened a. lot of times to me. Uh but um I went on. on Saving Private Ryan, um Tom Hanks.

said something to all of us. I actually. I I asked him about a he did this movie. a long time ago called Nothing in Common. and Jackie Gleason played his father and. Jackie Gleason was like this, you know, bigger than life uh you know star of the. Honeymooners and all this and and I. asked him Tom about it and and Tom said. I asked him if he was nervous and Tom. goes you know what he stopped he goes I. made the decision not to be nervous. I. made the decision not to be intimidated. by and it was it was really good advice.

I was like 25 or 26 and it was. >> and it was like don't you know. >> you got to just approach the work you. know and you got to approach people kind. of as they are you know what I mean it. was just like a very it was very helpful. in the sense that you know I I think I I. could have been intimidated by a lot of. the people that. >> I am um because I because I'm a fan of. theirs you know I'm I'm a fan and I and. I and I still feel that way about a lot. of people I work with I but it's more. more like it's it's it's better to.

appreciate appreciate them for the work. that they do. Um, but leave the rest of. the [ __ ] at the door so that you can. actually get some work done. [laughter]. >> Hell yeah. That's awesome advice, man. Shout out to Tom Hanks, man. >> I'm going to start using that advice. >> The man with one red shoe, baby. Let's. go. [laughter]. >> The money pit. >> Hell yeah. >> We always end the segment by asking. everyone what was their welcome to. Hollywood moment. the story you just. told us was pretty [ __ ] iconic early. in your career, but uh was there ever a.

moment that was just like, "Holy [ __ ]. I'm doing this or um could be good, could be bad, could be just uh you. know.". >> Yeah, I think the the biggest like the. one I think about all the time was when. Goodwill Hunting when we, you know, it. was such a like a roller coaster from. from writing it to selling it to, you. know, developing it to going the. turnaround to getting picked up at. another studio. There's all this stuff. that the first day we were shooting um. and the we were actually rolling film. and the movie was getting made and and.

it was a scene between Stellin Scarsgard. and Robin Williams. Ben and I weren't. even in the scene, but we went to watch. and when they called action and and. those two like heavyweight actors, amazing actors started talking, started. saying the [ __ ] that we wrote, >> like we just just tears coming down and. I think that was like that was that was. definitely a kind of an amazing moment. Uh. >> cuz it was like this is real like even. if nothing happens with this movie like.

we got it made. >> We're doing it. We were like, we were. like Rocky in the first one where it's. like we didn't even want the belt. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> We just wanted to go 15 rounds and be. and still be there. And so that was kind. of the moment where we were like, "This. movie is actually going to happen.". >> That's awesome. >> [ __ ] iconic. >> If you had any advice for somebody that. was looking into getting into writing or. acting or what would your advice be? Like what's what's the best way to get. started or learn or Yeah, I don't know. Well, it's like a trade. So, it's it's.

to do it, you know, and so find really. good people to stud to to study under. and try to apprentice yourself to. And. um you know, if you're if you want to. write screenplays, I' I'd go probably. online now, you can probably get every. screenplay, just read just read, you. know, read 10 of them a week and just. start by osmosis. You'll start to. understand kind of the form. read the. movies that you like and see what they. look like in script form and and and. then read movies even that you don't. like very much and see what they look.

like and um and and that's kind of how I. that's kind of how we did it. We we kind. of backed into writing because um. because we were unemployed, nobody. wanted us. [laughter] And so we were. like, we better write our own thing. And. we we were kind of able to do that. because we'd read so many hundreds of. scripts and and then seeing those movies. get made and seen what became of them. and seen see we had seen what got cut. out and and and what survived and what. worked on the page and what worked on. the screen and all that stuff. So yeah, the more you can expose yourself to it.

and be around other people who are. interested in it and and you know make. it make it a focus for for your time and. energy then you know the better the. better shot you have. It's a brutal. business though. >> you know I wouldn't it you know the the. my old answer to that was always like I. would just I just tell people don't. don't do it. [laughter]. >> No honestly because every single person. told us not to do it. Like everybody. there was nobody in my life who said, "Yep, this is good. You should do this.". Like it it's it was a suicide mission. basically, you know, like you're not.

going to make any money. You're not. going to, you know, you're just going to. go out and get beaten down by the world. It's like a you know, and the first. hundred times you go audition, you. usually just get rejected and it's. humiliating and it's like, you know, you. got to have you got to really really. really want. >> Do you think the landscape has changed. at all from when you were trying to come. up? totally totally totally different. business. Like I don't I don't know what. to I I have trouble because I don't know. where the business is going and so I. don't know what to tell but but the.

things that matter still matter. Like if. you love acting, if you love writing, then then it's it doesn't matter where. the business is going. You're going to. find your place in the business. But um. but but yeah, just just doing it as much. as you can. Like it really is a it's. it's a trade. Like people try to put all. this hocus pocus around it, but it's. like you know being a carpenter like you. know can you build a house right? So. just start start working on that and and. uh and eventually you'll be able to. >> get put in man. >> Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.

>> Brother, thank you for the wisdom. Thank. you for the stories. >> Appreciate the time, man. >> Thank you guys, man. >> And thank you. Thank you for the rip, man. On Netflix January 16th. Everybody. go check it out. Matt Davis, ladies and. gentlemen. I really appreciate it. >> You guys are awesome, brother. >> Thank you for coming on, brother. >> Thank you for having me, man. This is. awesome. I I really do watch you guys a. lot. Like, for a dude who's supposed to. have a job. [laughter]. >> We appreciate it, man. >> Sorry for taking up your real space.

>> No, [laughter] not. going to get recommended this on my. [ __ ] phone. It's going to be great. Yeah. [laughter]. >> All righty, everybody. That wraps up. this episode of New Hides. THANK YOU SO. MUCH TO MATT DAMON. >> YEP. >> This is absurd that we get to talk to an. individual of his stature and we will. take full advantage of it. Make sure you. subscribe to the New Heights channel on. YouTube and follow New Heights on the. Wondery app or wherever you get your. podcast. You can listen to new episodes. of New Heights ad free right now by.

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[music]. Hey. [music]. >> All righty. I now brown cow. I now brown. >> Unique New York. Unique New York. >> Did you hear that? >> Did you just rip it? >> Yeah. >> I thought that was I thought that was. you. Yeah. >> Yeah. I was holding it in the entire. Matt Damon interview. Not going to lie. >> Be respectable, man. >> Yeah. talking to a [ __ ].

>> You should have tried. You should have. saw if you broke. >> Do I smell something through my Do you. guys smell that? >> Why do I taste that? You hear how weird? >> What is it about? Good. >> I know. It's like foggy. >> I'm gonna ask you a question. >> Foggy, huh? >> I'm gonna ask you a question, Matt. Have. you ever Dutch ovened yourself? >> [laughter]. >> Is that. >> That's the thing for sure.

>> Oh, I mean a thing. I've done it. multiple times just to see where I'm at. [laughter]. >> You do. That's an experiment. >> Yeah, >> you do. All right. Here. Let me check. >> Wow. That's I mean, it's my brand. >> Let me check the old exit. See uh see. how we're doing here. >> I got no problem with my brand. [laughter]. >> Wow, that is pungent. >> So, does it mean anything if it's like. different? I feel like I can tell if my. protein intake based on how my farts. smell. >> Ooh. Does it get more sour the more.

protein? >> It gets more like dense. >> Like if you're eating too much protein, like that your body isn't properly. uh like harnessing and utilizing to. build muscle. If you start eating too. much protein, then it almost feels like. there's like a change in the atmospheric. pressure with your fart. Like it's like. there's more molecules in the area. You. just, you know what I'm saying? Like. there's a pressure that is in there. Like you ARE LIKE, "WOW, THAT is thick.".

That's when you know you're eating too. much protein. >> All right. >> So, I can sometimes gauge it if I'm. trying to see like, "Oh, did I eat the. right amount of protein?" Then you fart. and then you're like, "Oh, yeah. I'm. definitely eating way too much protein. [laughter] That thing's like. >> That's basically water. That's steam. I. got steam coming on my ass right now.". >> Yeah.