NFL Schedule Predictions & Colin Jost on SNL Finale, Joke Swaps and Life as the Plus One | Ep 191

How nice is it to be the less famous. person in your relationship? >> Huge relief. >> It was hard as a standup because I would. have jokes about either the idea of. dating or the idea of marriage or what. that is. I can't be like, "She's nagging. me about this." Everyone's like, "SHUT. THE. WELCOME BACK TO NEW HEIGHTS, ladies and. gentlemen, boys and girls. A wonderry. show as you know brought to you by Adobe.

Acrobat. We are your hosts. I'm Travis. Kelsey's my big brother Jason Kelsey out. of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to. the Heights. Shout out to the University. of Cincinnati and all the Bearcats out. there. We miss you guys. Subscribe to. YouTube or wherever you get your podcast. and follow the show on all social media. New heights show with one s for fun. clips throughout the week. Jason, >> how you doing you underdog over there? You. >> doing championship. This guy is laced. with apparel right now. >> Why don't you tell everybody what we. have coming up? >> Yeah, we do have the PJ Championship.

here in Philadelphia this year at. Arotten. We are selling some merch there. that is centered around PJ Championship, raising money for the foundation. So. excited to dawn some of this gear. I. know. All righty, noters. We got another. great episode. We're going to look at. what we know so far about the 2026 NFL. schedule, as well as answer some of your. no questions, which we always love to. do. TODAY'S GUEST IS SNL'S COLIN JO. THAT'S RIGHT. >> HE IS. AND HE IS IN the house. The Jo is.

here. >> The Jo is here. I love it, man. Put it on a t-shirt, man. >> The Jo is here. >> I love that. That sounds good. All. right. Anyways, um we're going to start. off and we always start off with a. little bit of that new news. >> New news. >> New news is brought to you by American. Express. >> Yes. Yes, it is. >> I found out you were in London on the. internet. That was fun. >> London is fun. Jason, >> did you do anything stereotypically. British while you were there? >> For the most part. Um had some really. good food and uh enjoyed some uh plays.

Uh saw Sadi Sink and I believe Noah Jup. is his name. He was phenomenal. as Romeo. Um Sadi was phenomenal as. Juliet as well. Um. >> okay. Have you ever had Indian food in. London? >> I did. I've had the best Indian food. Well, I'll say second best because Kumar. makes the best Indian food. >> Shout out to Kumar. >> I would say it was one of the most. surprising meals that I've ever had. I. went to a spot uh called Genana,

which was remarkable. Every dish. they brought out, I didn't ask a single. question. >> I just dove in. The only questions that. I had to answer was how how hot or how. spicy. >> the heat of the the spice. >> like is like butter chicken like. standard Indian dishes or is this like. kind of like another. >> It was its own rendition. I don't think. I had really understood what we were. ordering. >> Okay. >> Um I kind of went with what the table. was getting. >> Nice. You would have never ate curry.

with me. >> I don't know if that's true. I've had. curry before this. >> That's right. Kumar. >> Yes. >> There we go. What's your favorite kind. of curry? >> Um, I like chicken masala or chicken. matika, I think is the other one. >> Matika. >> Um, yeah, it was uh I believe Kumar's. made the matika for me. This one was the. chicken butter masala. Damn good. With. some garlic naan. >> What What level of heat? So, what uh. they asked you what level of heat? >> Yeah. >> What was the rating system? >> It was a table consensus. We went we.

went more on the mild side, but it was. still like Ed Kelsey sitting over a. bucket of chicken wings. >> It was still hot. >> watching Jeopardy. Yeah, I was. leaking. >> That place sounds awesome. >> It is phenomenal. And now that I know. that there's one in Vegas, everyone in. America needs to go try it. >> I can't wait. I love Indian food. Anything else you want to talk about on. the eating? You were a little bit upset. You You feel like we're. uncharacteristically. been referring to you as a picky eater. Is this not accurate? No, it's not. It's.

not accurate at all. But it's fun to. play around with because I was I was at. one point. Yes. Where where and I will. give you credit. You opened up the. curiosity of eating. It took me to be. probably 22ish. I think it was maybe 21. Um, and absolutely shitfaced at a sushi. spot eating halfpriced sushi. for the first time uh in my life knowing.

that I had I I hadn't really. >> I don't know thought of sushi to be a. >> yeah I wasn't very fond of it at that. point. >> Raw fish gets you excited. I got you. >> Raw fish and some of the sauces and the. toppings and just like I was like why. are we doing this? Just give me the. fried rice. I'll I'll be good. And I was. hammered and you told me dude just eat. this. You're going to love it. And I did. and then I've loved sushi ever since. So. she's like, I can't go like more than a. week without getting sushi now. >> Yeah, that was Cloud. It's called Cloud9.

now. What was it called? I forget what. it was called back then. >> What was it? It was uh Dancing Wasabi. >> That is what it was, I think. So. >> it became one of my favorite spots. >> Well, the funny thing about that part is. it was always half price. It was that. was their No, no. Except for dinner. hours. Dinner hours. It was not. It was. like lunch 11 to 3 and then 4 to 4 to I. think like 10:00 p.m. was like. >> like regular price and then but from. from like 11 to 3 half price and then.

from like 10 to 4 a.m. was another like. half price. >> I guess we were just never we were. always outside of the hot. >> we never went there for dinner. >> Yeah. I don't want to do this again. But. I'm you Taylor has gotten you out of. your comfort zone more than I ever did. I remember screaming at you to try. Benihana's special sauce and you would. not try it. >> And I still I I'll probably I could try. it now, but I'm just like I don't I'm. not gonna dump it over my entire. Benihana. I love Benihana, >> right? >> I like it just the way it is. Just the. way they cook it. I don't think it needs.

a sauce. I'll do a little spicy mayo. Little yum yum. >> You have been on record as you are an. anti- mayo. You do no mayo. >> Straight mayo amount. >> But you'll do spicy mayo. >> Not a lot of it. I'm not. lathering up a sandwich and doing it. If. I want to like have it like drizzled. over some like sushi on a or like over. some like. >> You're in on aololis is basically what. you're saying. >> Yeah, I'll have a nice little spread. But if it's like if it's coming out of a. burger and like getting on my. face, I'm out. I can't do it. It's too. much sauce. I don't need that much. sauce. >> I'm going to get a burger now. All.

right. All right. Let's keep moving. along here. NFL schedule release is. coming out Thursday. Um, as of this. recording, that's all we know. We know. nothing about the schedule. There's been. a few games released. Uh the schedule. has leaked so far per Adam Sheffer on. Pat McAfee is as follows. International. games. We have one in Melbourne, Australia. The first a first game in. Australia ever that is going to be Rams. and 49ers. >> So cool. >> Another Brazil game this time between. the Cowboys and Ravens. Always a slate.

of London games. We got Commanders. We. got Jaguars. We don't know who they're. playing, but they're going to be there. Paris, France. Have we played in France. yet? I don't I don't know. Have we? >> I don't believe I've seen this. The. Saints. Lucky guys. >> Yeah. >> Who doesn't want to go to Paris? >> Madrid. >> I was going to say Madrid. Uh the the. Falcons. I know that I know the Chiefs. were like I think Spain might be the. only one that we were in on. I don't. know if I'm even allowed to be saying. this. Is that news? >> I don't know.

>> Can we look that up real quick? >> What do you mean in on? Like you're. you're you're a. >> I think that may be one that we like. >> a candidate to be in. >> Yeah. Yeah, that we cuz you like put in. bids for these games. >> for sure. Well, and you can kind of. because it takes away a home game. You. can actually submit to be one of the. like home teams or whatever if you want. I think Mexico City 49ers, Munich, we. got the Lions. Munich's going to love the Lions and Dan. Campbell. >> Yeah, I guess I guess the Chiefs I mean. I guess we have been lobbying for it to.

play in Spain and the Falcons are I. believe our like 18th game. Like we. don't play the NFC South, but we. >> they're our extra game next year. >> So it could be a little Falcons Kansas. City. >> Our 17th game. >> Let's see if Travis is calling it you. So you think week nine Falcons versus. Chiefs? You're saying it right now on. this podcast that you have no inside. information. So you have You have no. information. We're just guessing. >> I don't I'm guessing I know that we play. That's like the only team on here that. we play outside of the 49ers.

>> Okay. >> Mexico City. We played there before. >> Nice. >> Um I don't think we play the Lions. I. think we Yeah, we played the NFC West. this year. So, and then as I said, the. Falcons were our only extra game uh this. year. So, I I think I think that's our. only chance of playing abroad. >> I mean, Spain, it's pretty nice. I've. never been. >> It's pretty nice. Never been. Looks. really nice. Seeing pics, >> people. Beautiful. >> Beautiful people. Great wine.

>> Paella. M by Bye. >> That's about all I know. My friend. Alejandro Villoeva is just like sitting. there like yelling at me right now. >> That's what I know about Spain. >> Alejandro, we're sorry. I'm Yeah. >> Comes off a little too fancy. Spain. comes off a little fancy to me. Is that. accurate? >> No, that's very false. >> That's not accurate. >> It It has its very nice spots and it is. a very elegant feel, but fancy. >> It just comes off a little snoody to me.

No way, Jason. Do not. >> just saying that. I don't I don't know. if that's true. I've never been. I just. when I think of especially in Majid, I'm. thinking of like. >> What do you think they speak? >> French. Um Madrid and Barcelona are the. two big cities. That's all I know. This. conversation is going absolutely. nowhere. >> All right, perfect. So maybe uh so. Travis is basically guaranteeing that. the Falcons are playing the Chiefs week. nine. >> I'm guaranteeing it in hopes that we do. because I want to play in Spain. There.

we go. >> Regular season games that have been. confirmed. Week one, the Cowboys vers. Giants on Sunday Night Football. There's. going to be a Thanksgiving Eve game. So, a Wednesday game. They don't know who. it's going to be yet, but there will be. one. That's probably, I'm assuming, one. of the games that they sold to Netflix. or something like that. Christmas Day, another scheduled game on Netflix. Week. 18, Saturday games are going to be. scheduled. Saturday game will be. scheduled on Netflix. This is the topic. right now is a lot of these games going. to networks uh and platforms that. viewers have to pay for. You know, the.

the game for a large port of ex. existence was free on basic television. As long as you had the old rabbit ears, you could watch football on Sunday, >> but and you can still do that on. Sundays. But I think it's I think it it. it's always been cable has been whatever. area you're in is the game that you get. Which is why when we were growing up, we. got Browns games, but then when the. Browns left, we got Pittsburgh, Detroit, and Cincinnati games. >> What's interesting is that's still the. vast majority of the games you can get. with rabbit ears. Like, if you think.

about it like that, like you could. still, as long as you got some old. antenna, you can still watch. over 80 some percent of the football. games. There is a lot of criticism and I. get it because it's changing and I don't. know you have to have all of these. different platforms now if you want to. watch all of it but previously before. those platforms you couldn't watch all. of it before YouTube TV came out with. Sunday T well I guess Sunday Ticket came. out on uh Direct TV to start but even. that you couldn't get unless you had.

Direct TV now it's never been easier to. watch football games you want to watch. everything and if you still don't want. to pay for it. You still can watch the. vast majority of football. >> Mary would just go to the paninis down. the street and that way you can. watch every football game you could ever. ask. >> You go to Buffalo Wild Wings, you can. get it all. Yeah. Yeah. Do we want to. try and predict which Chiefs games will. be in prime time? I think it's a good. fun game. >> Oh, okay. Yeah, let's do it. >> All right. If I was commissioner, which. games would I be making of the Chiefs? >> How many games you think we would be on.

prime? >> This is the problem. Your guys division. is getting better. So, previously most. of your guys prime time games are. outside of the division, right? So, like. Denver this year, is that a prime time. game? >> We would always have a prime time in. division game, >> but now like the Raiders. >> Yes. >> Do you have prime time against the. Raiders? What on. >> 100%. I had four touchdowns. >> Oh, the Christmas game. >> No. Again, a Christmas game versus the. Broncos. >> Yeah. >> The divisional games. I feel like those. are all those are a big focus for these.

like networks to get these rivalry. games. Yeah. >> Well, you want the divisional games. because they mean more for the playoff. seedings and especially at the end of. the year. They're big. >> typically get better football when you. play in division. >> Yeah. All right. Well, Broncos game to. start the year. I bet that that would be. a prime time game. Well, it's not to. start the year. It's just the first. logo. Sorry. >> Yeah. >> Broncos that virtually one, if not both. of those games will probably be prime. time, right? So, in previous years, we've had up to five or six prime time. games. >> That's coming off of the Super Bowl.

>> Yes, exactly. This year, so I'm going to. guess three to four. I'm going to guess. three high-end four. >> I still think the Kansas City Chiefs are. a draw that that the league's pay. banking on. >> I think so. I'm playing I'm playing. modest. So, >> you got as long as you got Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, like. >> that old Texas gunslinger. Put them all TV. So, let's say four to. five. If it's five to six, maybe now. it's four to five after a down year. One. down year in the past decade. All right.

Broncos virtually guaranteed to be one. of them is going to be a prime time. game, right? >> Yes. >> What about non-division games? Which a. Buffalo? I mean, that's a that's for. sure going to be a prime time game, right? >> I don't know. We we we played them uh. mid-afternoon or like that second wave. of games that uh. >> Yeah, that four:00 slot. Yeah, I think. we played them and and Bengals the same. Uh, but both of them could be. I think. if we get a home game, I think Patriots. are probably the the big one that I I.

think people would want to see. >> Yeah. Let me say this. If if I'm the. network, which games do I want to see. the Chiefs playing on my network in. prime time? I want to see them playing. the Broncos. I want to see them playing. the 49ers. I want to see them playing. the Bills. I want to see them playing. the Rams, >> Seahawks, Seahawks, or just because I know there's a lot of.

bad blood and rivalry is the Bengals, right? >> Yeah, there's. >> those are the six games to me that look. the most appetizing if I'm a network. >> Yeah, I'm with you. >> I guess you go Chargers, too. Chargers. are really good last year. They tackles. got hurt. They're going to be Well, they. lost Jesse Mener. We'll see how they do. defensively with the tackles healthy, Justin Herbert in there. They're going. to be really good. Uh Harbaugh still at. the helm. Is that a good list? >> 100%. I think uh. >> I've kind of I left out the Patriots. I. don't know why. I mean, I know they went.

to the Super Bowl. That's still a a big. one. >> Yeah, it is. 100%. So is San Fran at home. I think. that's al that's going to be a big one. as The only reason I think I left him. off cuz like the other teams all have. like you guys really don't have a lot of. Well, I guess you do from back when Tom. was there. Like recent see there hasn't. been like a lot of bad blood between the. Chiefs and Patriots. >> Yeah. >> Whereas with the 49ers obviously you. guys just played a Super Bowl not too. long ago. >> I think in it's not as much onfield but. there's still that back and forth with.

the ri with the organizations and the. and the fan bases. Yeah, I think there's. a little bit of that. >> All right. If I was a betting man, I'd. say. a Chargers home game. I'll go San Fran. at home and then the. >> Mile High Denver. >> Two away games. That's what I was going. to say. Denver away and uh I'll say. Chargers away. Oh, no. Chargers. Seahawks. Seahawks away. >> Do you already know that those are the. Oh, okay. It's already got him home and.

away. I didn't even notice that. Good. job, Travis. Uh, yeah, that's where I'm going with. it. >> All right. Shout out to the Eagles. Autism Foundation Challenge. They raised. over $16 million this year. That's. right. >> Holy smokes. >> It's Every year it just keeps getting. bigger and bigger. Shout out to Jeffrey. Lur, the executive director, Ryan. Hammond, uh, close family friend, but. also Ry has been killing it. Every. single year it keeps getting better and. better. Jeffrey Lur has put a lot of. resources into this and so far they've.

raised over $56 million over the last. eight years. >> Sheesh. >> Absolutely wild, >> man. >> Yes. So, it's it's been highly. successful. Uh and on top of that, it's. especially this event is just an awesome. event for the community, right? Everybody comes out. >> everybody together. >> You're exercising, you're talking, you're shaking hands. I mean, it's a. very just fun day. Um especially when. the rain holds off, which it did. thankfully. Uh, and I biked 10 miles. again. Traff did a little 10 mile bike.

ride. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh yeah. >> No way. No chance. >> Did it in right around 42 minutes, which. I'm pretty happy with. >> 42 minutes. >> Listen, that's not bad pace. That's a. decent pace. >> What's that? What? Let's I I don't want. to do the numbers. >> Divide it by 10. >> Oh, how fast are you going? >> Yeah. Like how on average, how fast do. you think you're going? >> Well, you're going 4.2. Well, you're going So 10 miles. >> Uhhuh. You're going 4 point.

two. Why am I I'm trying to divide it by. 10. This is not working. >> You're not doing it the right way. >> I'm not doing it the right way. >> No, you got to take how long it is and. then divide it by. >> We're going 10 miles in 42 minutes. >> That's what I'm saying. I don't want to. do however long a mile is times 10. I. don't want And then divide it by. >> Well, you're going a mile every 4.2. minutes. Every 4.2. Yeah. Every 4.2 minutes. So, you're going one mile. Yeah. >> Every 4.2 minutes. That's it. So you. extrapolate that to so four. So 4.2.

>> 60. There's 60 divided by. right around I mean let's just call it. you're you're basically. >> 60 divided 4.2. >> You're almost going. 25 miles an hour. You're going a little. bit over 20. >> No chance. There is no chance. That's not right. >> Do you know how fast you would have to. be pedaling?

>> I'm doing the math. >> Like you need to be in tour to. France. >> Let me do 4.2 is 60. I did 4.2 with 100. That was what why I was up. 4.2 divid So. 4id 60 is what? 4id 60 is 15, right? So. you're going and then 5 / 60 is. uh that's where I'm getting the point 2. from. >> That's not it. Oh, that's not. >> that's like 12. So you're you're going. like six I was going like 16 point. something miles an hour.

>> No chance. >> What do you mean that's but the math? That's something like that. >> I I'll give you maybe 12 miles per hour. average. >> Well, there's I mean I wouldn't have. finished with that time if that was the. case. >> Exactly. >> Oh, you're just you have a discrepancy. on the time finished. >> Yes. >> I mean I I I know for a fact it's 42. minutes. >> Seems a little farfetched, dog. >> I think they gave some of the. contestants little chips in their bags. Maybe I had a chip my bag. >> Maybe it's a little faulty chip. >> Also, we we bullied our Mason Thomas. into switching his number.

>> Do that to our Mason. No, we're not. doing this to We didn't bully anybody. >> So, he just happened to change his. number the same week that we put out a. video saying that 34 shouldn't be worn. by somebody of his position. >> Um, I'm pretty sure nobody saw that. >> I I I beg to differ. There's a social. media clip of it that would beg to. differ. How many people saw that social. clip, Brandon? >> Nobody. >> Jake Mason didn't. >> Well, I mean, it's very coincidental. that he switched it to 51 right after we.

talked about it. >> You don't know how fast he switched it? >> I do. >> No, you don't. You just No, you don't. You're just assuming. >> There was a practice where he was 34 and. then another practice where he. >> Well, that was the rookie camp. >> Yeah. Okay. So, he's 34 at the rookie. camp. Then he became 51 after that. >> When has he been in the building to have. 51? You haven't even seen him in 51. >> Yeah, I have. I've seen him in a jersey. in 51. where. >> in a video that they said they said that. was going viral. Can we get some. assistance here from people in the. rundown? Jesus Christ. >> I'm trying to get Jake. I don't have the.

answer. I don't do social. How dare you? >> I mean, we just we straight up just. didn't make a social clip of that. >> She just plainly lied. >> Brandon and I are like messaging like, "What the is he talking about?". It's in the full episode and a bunch of. people. >> a bunch of people were on us. for not remembering 34. They were more. mad about the Walter Payeyton thing. >> Yes, but that was all in the full. episode. I did not. >> You never scored a touchdown on the. Super Bowl. What do you want me to say? >> Come on. Don't do this to Walter. All.

right. 51 though. Where's the evidence. that he switched to 51? Jake, get back. in here. >> Where is the evidence? I I haven't seen. any of this. >> I've seen this. >> I think the Chiefs posted like updated. rookie numbers and they had. >> and that was it. All right. So, >> that but it's like a graphic and none of. those are official technically. Then why. are we doing this? >> Because a bunch of people on the. internet are claiming that we bullied. him into changing his number. And I. think there I think it's accurate. I. think there is an accurateness to this. statement. >> No, >> no, >> no.

>> There's only one way our Mason, we got. to get you on the show so you can tell. Jason that you didn't get bullied. >> into wearing a different number. >> All right. There's a bunch of people on. here. >> pretty pissed off that we didn't. remember Walter Payeyton uh aka. Sweetness wore that number which Yeah, I. mean major foul on our part. We. definitely should. >> We up that one. But did we go. down the list of people who are 34? >> We we were trying to remember who. >> you knew it was running backs. >> We did know that and we were trying to. remember who were 34. We couldn't do it.

We couldn't for some reason we didn't. think it was. >> We get hit in the head for a living. It. sometimes it just goes right over our. head. Deuce Daily. >> Deuce was Deuce, wasn't it? >> 32. >> I'm pretty sure. Who else wore 34? Let's. check that out. >> Ooh. 34. 34. 34. I can see a Steelers. Steelers jersey. 34. >> I don't I don't know. All righty. We got. some good ones. Okay. Some really good. ones. >> Yeah. >> All righty. >> Are they all running backs like we. thought? >> They are all running backs.

>> Knew it. >> That I know. >> I knew it. >> At least four of them you should know. >> All right. Four of them. All right. Sweetness. >> Mhm. >> Bo Jackson. >> Nice. Well done. >> Um, >> how did you get Bo Jackson so fast? >> Because it's Bo Jackson. What. are you talking about? >> No. Did we Did somebody write that down? How did you just pull out Bo Jackson? >> Bo knows it's the one of the. five minutes and you didn't say Bo. Jackson once and then you just listed it. like it was a fact. >> 100% said. >> somebody. All right. Whatever. All. right.

>> Um, 34 34 34 34. Um, wait for it. Wait. for it was. gosh I want to say like Marshall Faulk. >> You would be wrong. >> Um, give me an era. Give me an era. >> One was from our era growing up watching. football. I would say the latter half of. it like high school and middle school. years. Very iconic running back whose. career had ups and downs. >> I mean, whose doesn't? Um,

>> well, this one was very down when it was. down. Ah. Oh, Ricky Williams. >> Ricky Williams. There you go. >> Legend. >> Legend for multiple things. And then the. other one is one of the most iconic. running backs of an of an era before. that. >> Oh. Uh, no. He was 32. Gosh, 32 has got. a ton of them. I was going to the. white running back from Miami. Uh, who. do you how like how far back? He was the. same era as Brian Bosworth. Matter of.

fact, has a legendary highlight where. Brian Bosworth cannot tackle him. >> Are we talking about Bo Jackson again? Um. >> I don't think it was Bo. I thought it. was the other guy. He's from the same. era basically of Bo. I think. >> um this is so fun. I love this trivia. stuff. Um. >> he also uh ran a sub 5second 40 at 50. years old more recently. Gosh, what are. we thinking about? Eric Dickerson. Who. are we thinking of?

>> I think he might be doing politics now, which maybe I shouldn't even mention. >> Walker. Yeah, >> there you go. Were those clues accurate? >> Uh, yeah, he was a he was a part of the. the big trade that um that evidently. >> right led to No, Emtt Smith. >> Emtt Smith Cowboys. >> I'm an idiot. He is the one that broke. that Brian Brosworth was trying to. tackle and broke the tackle, right? No, that was Bo Jackson. That was Bo. Jackson. Yeah, that was a fun game. We. should do that more often. >> It was Bo Jackson.

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uh, it which we are not 100% sure on, so. we're not going to announce them right. now, but we we have some leads. >> We have. >> leads. Leads. Yeah, we got the guys over there. working in shifts. All right. Uh, the link in description to buy is uh. down below this video if you will be in. the LA area around what when are we. doing this again? like June. >> June 15th. >> 15th. Yeah, there we go. June 15th. All. righty, that does it for new news. brought to you by American Express.

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>> The Eagles and the Chiefs. I'm assuming. that's what it means. >> Yeah, the hashtag Bulbasaur. I think. people just like saying Bulbasaur. >> I feel like Snorlax best represents. myself. Uh, as for the Eagles, it's got. to be a Pokemon with some attitude, a little bit of grit to it. >> What's a gritty Pokemon? >> What is a gritty Pokemon? like Onyx. >> I kind of want to look at some Pokemon. because I haven't played Pokemon in a.

while. Definitely have to go with the. original like 151 or whatever. Charmander. Is that a Chief? Is that. what the Chiefs are? >> I think Charmander would be like a. Charizard, I think, would be a Chief for. sure. Similar kind of color way. >> Oh, there we go. This helps. Okay. Similar color way, but is there a team. that is more associated with fire? That's weird that there's no teams like. you have the flames in hockey, right? >> Mhm. There's no like fire teams in the. NFL, right? Am I blanking on one? >> I don't know. Would Zapados be a good.

one? >> Electric. I mean, yeah, it's got to be a. bird, right? So, you got Zapados. You. got. >> Why does it have to be a bird? >> Well, it's eagle. It's a. >> You're talking about you. All right. >> Uh, so we got Zapados. >> Little Zapados right here. >> One of the ice birds. I think it started. with like an A. Maybe there's like an a. bird. >> A bird. I. >> I think I'm I keep coming back to. Zapados. So, we could do be one of the. bats. What were the bats called? Those. things are annoying as in. the game. It just they kept. showing up. Nicksi's famous flower.

speech. There's that one flying flower. >> Um, I kind of feel. What's the go? What's the haunted one? The ghost one that flies around. That's. what I feel like. The birds. It's. purple. Not the right color way, but. kind of it's got some menacingness to. it. >> I got nothing in my in the cards I've. already opened. You thinking of Gastly? >> There's Gastly. >> There's Gengar. >> Gengar. >> Zubat, I believe, is the bat. >> Zubat. >> Zubat. Articuno was the a bird you were.

trying to think of. >> Articuno. I'm going to go Zapados. >> Zapados. That's the bird. >> Yeah. >> Little Zappy. I think we're a Charizard, man. >> Charizard going full EV evolution. >> Patty Mahomes throwing fire. >> What is Travis Kelce? >> I think we already went through this. I'm the like the mime. >> Oh, yeah. We've already done that bit. All right. If you had to live in one. Disney movie forever, which would you. choose and why? >> Okay. Christian04. >> Man, one Disney movie.

>> could live in it forever. >> Damn, that's a good question. Ah, how do you just one heavyweights? >> You just want to live at the. heavyweights camp forever. >> Just camp hope. >> Um, >> get on that blob. Man, >> it does look fun. >> Patch that thing back up. Come on now. Have you ever been on a blob? >> Ever, man. I've been dreaming. about being on a blob. >> since heavyweights came out in the 90s. >> Well, let's make it happen,

Travis. >> All right, let's do it. Get me. on a blob. I'm I'm saying heavyweights, man. That was so funny. >> Now he's got to find out where you get a. blob from. >> All the fat kids when we were growing. up, they were ended up being the. funniest, most enjoyable to be around. >> It's true. Fat people are just better. >> You didn't get good until you got fat. >> I didn't. Yeah. Nobody liked me until I. became fat. >> That's such a bummer. >> As I get skinnier, people hate me more. and more. >> What's Jason's? >> I kind of want to go Alice in. Wonderland. >> Just for Just for Eert or Cipher? I got.

a little Bulbasaur for you. >> What are you saying? You're going Which. one? >> I'm going to go Alice in Wonderland. That was wild. >> Alice in Wonderland or Alice in. Wonderland? >> Alice in Wonderland. >> I can dig that, I guess. Super trippy. You're right. kind of scary. >> Yeah, but I mean eventually you kind of. get used to it, right? I don't know. >> Alice seen to it. >> Probably if I'm going my favorite one, I'm going. I'm going Aladdin. Just have a genie.

around all day. Can do whatever I want. >> Well, you only get three. >> Well, no, you do. But the first wish you. do is you wish for more wishes and then. you set him free and then he's just your. friend, but he still has the powers. somehow. >> Is that how it works? Did you just make. up your own version of Aladdin? At the. end of Aladdin, they he sets him free. and then I think he still is like around. in the other Aladdin. They make like. multiple. >> No way. They made more than one Aladdin. >> Oh yeah, I think there's like three. There's at least three of them. I'm. pretty sure.

>> Where the have I been? >> I I have not watched them either to be. honest with you, but there are multiple. Aladdins. Yes, you cannot ask for more. wishes. But you can grant him freedom. and then he becomes your friend. That's. the way you get the genie. You grant him. freedom, then he's your friend, but he. still has power, so he still can kind of. around. >> That's the point of him being free is. that he doesn't get put under this spell. of only giving three wishes and going. back in the. >> I know, but for some reason when they. set him free in multiple iterations, he.

still had powers. and then he was still helping with his. powers. >> Man, I got to watch that again. That. doesn't sound like it's right. >> Well, it's a it's a good lesson for. kids. If you want something, you know, and you ask, you only get like three. times for somebody like, "This guy's. annoying as shit." But if you. are good to them and you give them. freedom, they'll help you out and you do. something for them. Then they'll help. you out in perpetuity. >> All right. Which Disney movie are you so. out on that you would never even want to. live in that movie? >> Yeah. What's my least favorite Disney. movie? I don't know. Let me look at Let.

me look up. I'm gonna go I'm gonna. look for help. I don't know. You go. first. Can you think of one? >> I probably say. >> it's hard to do like what do we mean. when we're living in them? Are we. becoming like a specific character? >> Sounds like Yeah. Like you got to live. in that world. >> All right. If we're doing that then I'm. going hunchback in Notam. I don't want. to be that. >> living in a tower and just. ringing bells and I don't even. remember what the positive end of that.

story was. >> Well, he got the girl. >> He didn't get the girl, I don't think. I. think he just like they were like. friends. I don't think he got her. >> No, he like she like kissed a frog or. something and he became cute. >> No, that's that's the other one is. Beauty and the Beast. I feel like that. that's the most up story that I. feel like there is in. >> what? >> Beauty and the Beast. >> Yeah, the beast can't become handsome. >> It feels like the message is like, hey, no matter how bad and ugly this person. is, you can change him. >> Another good one is Shrek. Shrek is a.

banger. >> That's a great one. That's a very one. That that's I don't believe a Disney. movie, but that is a banger. I think. it's a kids movie. We'll accept it. I. don't That's uh what DreamWorks or It's. one of the ones that's not Disney. associated. I'm pretty sure Pixar is. Disney. I think it's DreamWorks. One of. those animated studios is an offshoot. It's not Disney. I don't Yeah, I have. four kids. Travis, just trust me. >> I think Pixar was once on its own and. then it became. >> You are correct on that. I believe I.

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on. That would be. >> Listen, if you ever need a guy, need an. intro. How How many What are you still. doing? Stand up. Time out. Let's get to. this. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'll still tour a little. I. mean, now just with kids, like less than. I used to, but I'll still probably do. maybe 50 shows a year or something like. that. >> Oh, hell yeah. That's badass. Yeah. Jason's always wanted to do it. I'm terrified of ever doing it. >> Um, for people that want to that would. ever want to do standup, what's your. best advice? >> Get ready to suck. Uh,

I mean, you it's different for you guys. Like you guys would already have. instincts about it that are better, but. when you're starting out, it's just it's. it's sort of brutal for a while cuz even. things you're like, "Oh, that's good.". You get out there and the rhythm's off. or something. But, you know, some people. are just naturally funny. And so, you'd. get away. You would already have a head. start. >> There's hope. Jason, >> are there a lot of Harvard grads in. stand? Like obviously I know um uh.

Conan, but are there is there like a. pipeline of Harvard to comedian? >> There are like there was a guy Dan Mintz. who was really funny who was uh who did. standup when I was there. Uh he still. does stand up. He's a a voice on Bob's. Burgers and he's been he does. >> BJ Novak who was in the office. He did. standup around that time too. I think. there's more younger people that do it. now that that are there, but there it. wasn't a huge thing. It wasn't like. okay, >> there wasn't a lot of performers like. Conan came from there. He did, but he I.

don't think he ever really did standup. I think he more did. >> Good point. He was. >> like sketch stuff and then became and. then did you know Tonight Show. >> So you didn't go to Harvard to to do. standup. >> It didn't help. >> They begged me not to. >> certain image we want we'd like to. uphold at this institution. uh I went there weirdly to do economics. and then quickly abandoned that uh. pursuit. There was someone at school. with me who had written a book called. Homeless to Harvard about their journey.

to Harvard. And I feel like now I have. to write a book called Harvard to Ferry. I'm like going trying to go the opposite. way. Start in economics, end up in. Ferry. >> There we go. Perfect. Well, uh speaking. of sketch comedy, we do have the SNL. final finale coming up this weekend. Pretty awesome one. Will Frell and Paul. McCartney? >> Oh man, >> it's hard to beat that. >> That's not It's so good. People are. like, "Is this the last episode ever?". >> Where do we go from here?

>> I know. >> We had Will on here and we talked about. his time on SNL and just comedian in. general. But one of the things he said. that I still take with me is just full. He's like if you want to do and you want. to be a great comedian or and it's. probably works for anything in life but. you commit hard where do you fall in. line with that advice like is that what. you've kind of feel like has given you. as much success in SNL as well? >> Yes, definitely. There was there was no. other plan. There was no like plan B. I. feel like it was either going to work. out or I was just not going to do.

anything. But he Will is Will. The other. thing about Will that's so great is he. always keeps a little bit of an element. of surprise which is so nice on a live. show. >> It's insane, man. >> He would come in with like a different. kind of costume, an element you didn't. like just adds an ascot or whatever, like something that you didn't expect. And and when he enters the scene, even. the people in the scene are like, "All. right, let's put it.". And he and just the fun, he has a. genuine level of fun that he brings.

like he he would come he when he was. hosting and he used to do this when he. was in the cast. He would he just would. come into the writer's room and he would. wear like a scarf and gla glasses and he. would say he was a writer that they. brought in from LA. >> for the week and he would just sit there. and be listening and he'd be like hm. yeah maybe that that one line maybe you. flip IT. >> I could see if you maybe just flip it. and then he'd like order lunch. immediately.

long elaborate lunch order just like a. guy that likes doing doing bits is the. best energy it feels. >> Oh my gosh, it's it's so. impressive, man. I I can't say in a bit. to save my life, man. And this. dude just does it. It just every every. minute of the day it feels like. Um when. you first when you first jumped into uh. Weekend Update, the first one that you. ever did, were you terrified? >> Oh my god. So, so the problem was it was. even weirder cuz I had been there as a. writer. Like I had just become head.

writer. like I felt like I was doing. well as a writer. >> and I'd been doing standup, but I was. really doing a ton of SNL writing. And. so I at first I worried like I was going. to be so bad that I would lose both. jobs. >> Like they'd be like, "You're so bad on. camera. We're also taking away your pen. We're not even letting you write. anymore." And I was so nerv like I. remember just like drinking bourbon. before I went on to calm my nerves. Got. to. >> stay loose. and just adrenaline.

immediately just burned it off. And it. was weird cuz it was also like I was. doing it in front of all my peers who I. had been working with, the whole crew. who I'd been working with, but then it's. suddenly you're in a totally different. role and and you're so really. self-conscious about it. >> Yeah, I can only imagine. >> Now that you've been doing it for a. while, is there one is is what's harder, writing or performing? >> Um, I I think writing is harder. like it's. hard to do. I I don't know. I still find.

writing is hard. Like you it never gets. really easy. But performing is just a. whole other skill that that uh you don't. know if you have until you're doing it. Like it's really hard to work at. You. can get better for sure. Like you can. work at acting, you can work like it's a. skill you can develop, but you also kind. of need some spark or something that you. don't I don't know what it is, but you. need something and and and it's. something that comes across on camera. that is a little less I don't know.

definable. I don't know. >> Hell yeah. Especially when it's. live. >> Yeah. I mean, I think whatever else I do. in life will feel easier. Even if I do a. movie, I'm like, "Oh, I can get another. take. It's so liberating. Like we never get a. second shot. And as a writer too, like. you'll write something and if there's a. something goes wrong or someone flubs a. line or something there's a technical. cue, you never get to do it again. Yeah. Which is And so when something actually.

goes the way you imagine it, you feel. like it's a miracle. Like you pulled it. off and you know you're you're you're so. grateful that it came together. >> So as as you know, I'm sure there's you. know there's and I'm sure you know too. There's things you think are going to. work and then they don't. They they t, you know, and and then there's things. you're you're like, I don't know, maybe. I'll try it. And then maybe it was. something that surprised you when you. hosted that worked, you know. >> Oh, not even just on SNL. There's stuff. in the football world that I'm like, this will guarantee happen. Coach, can. we just put this in? And then we try it.

in practice and there's like it gets. gloved and nothing And I'm just. sitting there like, coach is right. >> He knows what he's doing. You told me that wouldn't work. >> That's good. That's I'm glad to know. that happens there, too. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah. >> Um, you've been working on the show for. 20 plus years now. Are there. still like some star struck moments or. any hosts or musical guests that are. just like, "Holy shit.". >> Yeah. I mean, still like I mean, I feel. Paul McCartney is someone that's still.

even though he's been come around a. bunch. >> and just the coolest guy ever, just a. smooth cat. Yes, sir. Super. Yeah. Super. Like just. like my I remember this last year he was. do he was there for the 50th. anniversary. You know he he played which. was one of the most incredible. >> ways you could end an episode of. television is to have him play the last. three songs from a road. I mean that was. just seeing everyone from the original. cast from people who were there like. watching in tears. What a great me you.

know moment. And there was he was doing. rehearsal and so I told my parents who. are huge fan they were like I was like. come down you got to see this rehearsal. I'll sneak you in. And he's like I see. him he's up there playing and my dad. calls and he's like we're getting in a. cab now. And I was like dad. WHAT ARE YOU DOING? And and just they. walk in comically like right after he. had finished rehearsing. >> I was like guys and and Paul like he's. he consent. This is how great a human he.

is. He s I think he could almost sense. that they had just missed it. And so. after he finished playing, he like came. up and was like, "Hey, how's it going? I'm Paul.". >> Nice. Still a nice little kind memory. >> Spent spent like five minutes talking to. my parents and it just immediately made. the whole situation like even better. than if they had seen him play. And like. he just has those instincts, you know? >> Hell yeah. >> Absolutely. It was great too seeing him. try to get through crowded into the. building with and he's just wearing a. hood and someone's like, "Sir, you can't.

just walk in here." And he just like. puts the hood up a little and he's like, "Right this way. Oh, you could do. >> whatever you need, sir.". >> Yeah. Are you and Michael Shay going to. do a joke swap at the finale? >> Yes, please. >> Oh my god. That's two weeks away. So, it's like this thing from I couldn't We. haven't planned I couldn't tell you. anything yet about it, but I mean, we'll. see. I'm I'm sure we'll try to. brainstorm some version of it. See if we. can come up with something that would. feel feel satisfying. It's hard to keep.

And also, I'm I don't know if you. noticed that a little bit of a. structural disadvantage. >> You know, shame shame plays into it. perfectly. >> Oh god. It was the the time I feel like. I got him the most nervous because he's. he's such a Kendrick Lamar fan. When I. started getting him talking weighing in. on the feud, like talking directly to. Kendrick, I could tell he was really. really genuinely worried about what I. was going to make him say. >> Now I got him. Now you know what it's.

like for me every time. >> Yeah. But I'm open to ideas if you guys. got any pitches. >> Yeah, we are the last. >> Like you said, writing hard. I can't. exactly. >> I can't even put a sentence together. actually. >> I I am curious though for that like for. that bit that's been one of the most. like longest tenure bits at this point. right within SNL. like what is the process for that? Do. you guys have any idea going into it? I. know they do the rehearsal like right. before the show like how much of a wild.

card are you truly like on the hook of. like what is what am I about to get? >> Oh well so we have people ask about it. Well, it's, you know, there's we have a. dress rehearsal, but at the dress. rehearsal, we do totally different. jokes. >> Yes. >> And sometimes, sometimes they're more. tame sort of to lull the other person. into a false sense of security, you. know, like this one's actually this. one's not that bad. >> Easy night here. >> And then sometimes they're actually a. little harsher because you can, you. know, you can make him say one thing.

that's not going to. >> not going to air. There's really been ones where I've. where I said a he made me say a joke and. the host that week came up to me after. and was like are you okay. my shoulder I was like he he can't do. that to you like that kind of vibe. It. evolved because what started where we. just wanted another chance to do jokes. that the sensor had stopped. So, we we. originally did it as just jokes that we. weren't able to tell early in the year.

And then I perhaps foolishly suggested, wouldn't it be fun if we didn't know. what was coming? Uh, and so it was like, oh, that made sense to give it to each. other. And I remember Chay being like, okay, >> all right. >> Sure. >> And I was like, yeah, I really brought. it on myself. Well, thank you for doing it because. it's one of the entire like fans of. SNL's favorite bits. Man, >> it is thrilling to do even though it is. also terrifying and my my family every.

year is is very worried for me. I. remember my mom my I remember my mom. saying like a Rosa Parks graphic came up. and my mom was like I was just I thought. our whole family was going to end. We were going to have to just shut down. the family. Are we using the word bit. correctly? This is another thing. There's like like. >> Yeah, I think so. I would say that, too. >> All right. >> I feel like there's they're a little bit. interchangeable. Like I would say this I.

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changes? Like you guys start writing. this stuff usually like that week. earlier in it. >> Yes. >> It all gets thrown out now. Like if you. have you could have a joke you love on. Monday and it's completely irrelevant. But so we we do most of it now on Friday. and Saturday. like Friday and Saturday. now is just wallto-wall because it's all. it all. >> it's all different now. It's like that's. completely changed since when I started. And even the cold opens like we used to. have cold opens that we wrote for the.

table read on Wednesday and they would. still make sense as this the top story. Now like the top story is never the same. between Wednesday and Saturday. So most. of the cold opens now we write on Friday. and Saturday too. >> The times is changing. >> They are changing. >> That's awesome though, man. Before we go anywhere though, we got to. take a take a peek at this uh this 2005. card we have here. A little NBC. Universal baby. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. >> WOW. >> OH,

>> I FEEL LIKE the sideburns the sideburns. are so long. They may go underneath and. connect under my chin. >> I was going to say you do a little Abe a. Lincoln. You just had it just straight. along the chin. It also looks I'm. wearing like a like a such a fleshcoled. t-shirt that it almost looks like I came. shirtless to work. >> Hey, you're Bryer here. A young. >> This is still This is still my ID. So. that photo still comes up for the for. the security guard and you could tell. every time he's like, "Wait a second. Sorry.

>> This is still your photo.". >> Can you brush that hair forward real. quick for me? >> This is still what I Yeah. >> No, I'm kidding. I'm. >> That's hilarious. It doesn't go it. doesn't go forward anymore. >> That's what the guy says. That Thank you. for the show. Yep. You're clear. You're. good. >> It was just a different I was just at a. different place in my life, you know. >> The burns, man. >> What was the hiring process besides this. wonderful photo? >> I just walked up with that badge and I. was like, people don't know. It's just a signup. sheet. >> That's it. Yeah.

>> The process was I wrote I wrote a packet. of like six sketches. Um and people we. still you know the when I was head. writer like we still read hundreds of. submission packets every summer and. everyone goes through so it really. people's stuff gets read who submit to. the show. Um and we still hire people. from just from packs. If something makes. you laugh, it's kind of it's a rare. thing like if you read a packet and and.

you still and something really genuinely. just makes you laugh reading it, that's. a really good sign because that's that's. just hard rare to do. Sure. >> But I submitted a I I submitted a packet. one year. >> before I got hired at the wrong time. Like I didn't even know when to send it. in. And so I sent it in and then it. clearly no one ever read it because it. was not a time they were looking for. writers. And then I submitted uh in the. summer and and Tina was uh was a one of. the headwriters there. Harper Steel was. another head writer there. And they just.

read they liked some of the sketches. that I wrote. I was very very lucky. And. so I came in and interviewed with them. And then I and then I had to interview. with Lauren the same day which luckily I. I didn't even know I was gonna have to. do. Why do you say? >> Well, cuz I would have been so nerv I. was less I had less time to worry about. it because they were like, "And we're. just going to have you go interview with. Lauren." I was like, "Oh, sure. Cool. >> Got it. Yeah, let's do it.". >> Cuz you're so nervous. I mean, actually, Will Ferrell, I don't know if you you. know this story, but he went to. interview with Lauren and he as a bit.

like came with a huge suitcase full of. money. And so he was like, "I'm gonna go. in and be like, Lauren, if you're on the. fence, maybe this would change your mind. and and open the suitcase." And then he. said, he went in to meet with Lauren, carries in the suitcase in Lauren's. office and is instantly so nervous that. he never does the bit. And so then they. have the whole interview and then he's. just like, and it seems like he's like. going to get the job. So he's like, "Um,

it was great to meet you, Mr. Michaels. Thank you." just stands up with a. suitcase and leaves. So, it's like it. was in a way even crazier that he. thought I brought a suitcase to a comedy. interview. >> and never did the bit. So, good. legendary man. >> So, I interviewed Lauren. >> and then one of the producers was like, "Stick around for a while." And I was. like, "Okay." So, I didn't know what. that meant. And then he just put me in a. writer's office to just sit there and. wait to see. I I didn't know for what. I.

didn't know what it meant. And so I'm in. this office for like an hour or two. hanging out just like alone and then the. phone rings in the office like this. random writer's office. And so. instinctively I was like I guess I'll. answer it. Why? I mean it's his office. So I just pick up the phone and the one. of the producers who's there also in the. building tells me that I GOT HIRED. >> SO THAT'S AWESOME. >> BUT I'M sitting there. This is so. awesome. I was I was sitting hilarious.

He He called me from another office and. I just answered a random telephone and. was told I got hired. Pretty cool. >> Epic. >> Yeah. Tina Fay, Philadelphia legend. What was it like being in there your. first year going into a room like that? >> Oh, very intimidating. I mean, and she. was such a She had written so many. sketches that I love. I didn't even know. until I was there. Like she had written. all these like there was one where. Christopher Walkin is the census taker. I don't know if you ever seen that one. back in the day. It's like him and Tim. Meadows. You got to watch it. It's just.

it's just like pure random nonsense. basically and which is the kind of. sketch I love, you know? I love I love. and it's so well every line as a joke in. it. Christopher Walkin, who's one of the. best was so good in it. But she had. written so many great sketches, too. So, it's it's a very intimidating head. writer to to put, you know, to submit. sketches to. And there was a lot. happening that year because a lot of. people like I started with Kristen Wig, Jason Sedakus, Bill her and Andy. Samberg. >> They were all we were all new together.

which is just an insane truly one of the. best groups of. >> people to think about. >> to the show and all and that was it. They were the four actors that came in. and then two writers who worked with. Andy with the Lonely Island who came in. and Brian Tucker who had worked at. Chappelle's show and that was our group. that we started with and uh there were. all these cast members that were kind of. in their in their last year. So it was a. big transition year. It was the year. like Tina was leaving, Maya Rudolph was.

leaving, Rachel Dr was leaving, a lot of. people who had been there and Tina was. starting 30 Rock. So that that was like. that process was happening that year. We. saw all that like the show starting up. and so we as a group like all these new. people we started figuring out getting. our stuff on onto the show like how we. could sneak in. Um and there were some. incredible I was looking back at the. episodes from that year and there's just. crazy pairings like Steve Martin and. Prince was a show. >> Oh Um my my first episode was.

Steve Carell and Kanye which was just. walking Kanye first episode. Uh Tom. Hanks and the Red Hot Chili Peppers was. a show which was pretty awesome. >> Love it. Love it. >> Jack Black and Neil Young. Pretty crazy. >> And then it was like all these great. show. And then the last episode I just. saw the season finale was Kevin Spacy. and Nelly Fertado. Like I was like I'm sure Nelly Fittado. is so happy to have that ticket for. anybody else. They're like what'd you do.

SNL with? Um this guy Kevin. fun. >> What a great what a great se. But it was. really it was pretty cool and so many of. those people were like my idol. >> Was it always SNL for you? Was that. always like the gig once you dropped out. of economics or. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Everyone if you leave economics. you take all right that's the way to go. We have a ton of just former bankers. It's mostly we I I do I would have. worked anywhere. I mean, I would have. worked, you know, I applied everywhere.

I applied and just didn't get, you know, I applied to Letterman. I applied to, you know, Conan. I applied to the Daily. Show. I wrote spec I wrote a spec script. of Arrested Development when it was on. I wrote a. >> Oh, wow. spec script of scrubs like. shows that were on at that time. >> and just didn't get didn't get traction. anywhere. Yeah. But I would have of. course loved to work at SNL. I think I. didn't let myself believe I could.

>> Um and so then when it worked out it was. like I I you know. >> holy. >> It was incredible. And it was luckily. cuz I did drop out of. >> sort of normal job. I think it made it. easier on my parents that it was a show. they had heard of. instead of, you know, going somewhere where they would be. still very worried about me. So, it was. it was good. >> Well, I I got to know, you've mentioned. all of these ridiculous guests, hosts, um, musical artists. What was it like. having Travis Kel honest take on Travis.

Kelce as a host? >> Fantastic. I hope you know I hope you. know, first of all, I thought it was a. great show. >> It was a blast. I don't know how how it. compared to others, man, but I the. entire week I was like over the. moon, dude. It was insane. >> No, you had the you had a perfect. approach to it. Obviously, you know the. show. You and you threw yourself into. it. Absolutely committed to everything. and and I mean I hope you come and do it. again. It would be fantastic. Whatever. you.

>> do you are there any is there any. coaching maybe for his next. >> coach me up. Coach me up. >> Coach me up. I I've got no I I'll look. through the game. I'll go. I'll get in the phone room. I'll mark a couple things up. Late. entrance here. >> Little dead weight. inflections wrong here. I'll get in. there. I'll I'll do a whole dissect. from Australian to British halfway. through. >> Yeah, I'm sure the notes would all be.

for our own would on our own side. Like. we should have written a better joke. here. There were some standouts, too. Having a. meal at the American Girl store. That. was really good. >> Oh my god. I still go back and. watch that. I mean, it's absolutely. hilarious. >> I had so much fun doing that one. I was. like, "Oh, be a creep.". >> You were a little too good at it to be. honest with you. It was a little. >> You had spent like months at that just. doing research. >> I was act. Yeah. >> It was a method of.

>> I was getting porter houses the entire. time there. Yeah. >> And then you spent like months after you. hosted there too and you were kind of. It's really trying to get people to. notice like. >> Oh, he's really trying to get my name. out there. >> You still get like 10% off food there, right? Like if you anytime like a. lifetime. >> only the steaks, the really high high. price steaks. >> Steak and they still card me, Colin. They still card me every time I go in. there. And I don't understand why I'm. not ordering alcohol or anything that.

I'm gaining of age. Nikki Glazer hosted. and I I did a sketch with her that was. like American Girl. They make a larger. version of the American Girl dolls and. then instantly it's just like guys. coming in like, "Yeah, I'll get one of. those.". >> That's a banger. >> What How did it compare for you? Like. what you thought going in? Cuz it's such. a blur once you're going. It must be. such a blur that day. >> That's the thing. I I went into it you. like with zero expectations. I was like.

the the one thing I wanted to do was. like just be a teammate. Let everybody. like tell you what like what to do, how. to do it, where to go. Don't try and put. your twists on any of the like writing. or anything like that. Just go in there. and like be present and enjoy the. ride. And I think it was the. coolest experience I've ever had in my. life. like it was SNL I I got a I got a. text from uh Pton Manning giving me. advice on he was like, "Dude, just.

buckle up and and enjoy the the roller. coaster and and just dive in. Just be. all in on everything that they're. telling you." And that was the best. thing I could have heard at that moment. because I was going into it blind, not. knowing how everybody was so goddamn. funny on SNL. But then I quickly. realized after jumping into all the. little writing rooms and and hearing. everybody uh try and um not necessarily. pitch me apart, but get me to understand. apart um just how talented everyone is.

up there and and how much of like a. family and unity it is up there. So um I. just went in I just went in with you. know zero expectations and hoping that I. didn't it up on Saturday. >> No, no, not at all. I mean it's the. thing you realize too is you know the. writers are also nervous and also trying. to figure it out like you know they. don't necessarily know what's going to. work and they're trying to figure out. what's fun for you to do or what what. would be a good look for you to in a. scene or world for a scene you know.

>> which is where if I did it again I would. actually be able to tell them oh I can. do this kind of accent I can do this. like I just went in there and somebody. asked me do you have any accents you. could do I'm just. >> We don't want to take up too much more. of your time. We got a last section we. got. >> I have no friends, nowhere to go. I have. nothing. >> Never mind then. We will be here. >> I don't want to see my kids. Whatever. you. >> uh you are starting uh season two of pop. culture Jeopardy. Oh yeah. On Netflix. >> That's right. >> Um you are uh an e economic Harvard uh.

well I guess you didn't graduate with e. economy but economics. >> I graduated in pop culture. >> Shifted. There we go. >> Would you be Would you be better at. regular Jeopardy or pop culture. Jeopardy? >> 100% regular. >> Really? >> Yes. And I'm not I don't think I'd be. very good at Jeopardy. Like I'm not I'm. not really a good trivia. The thing I. realized I said it almost is like a Yogi. Barah phrase. I literally told someone. I'm good at trivia if I know the answer.

>> Like Uhhuh. right. But it's like there's. certain things I know well, but I don't. have a there's I have huge blind spots. in regular in anything. But Jeopardy I. the the level of knowledge and and the. breath of knowledge that people have as. Jeopardy contestants is is so. impressive. >> It's crazy. Pop culture is even is even. crazier to me because it changes so much. and there's so many eras of pop culture. and this is definitely weighted more.

recent, you know, which is sad because. when there's a category about the '9s, that's the one I feel like I could get. >> I'm all in this. Yeah. >> Yeah. And then but and weirdly sometimes. that's a category where no one will get. an answer now and that just makes me. feel very sad and old. >> As two guys who are also of the uh plus. one uh fraternity and have the same. experience. Uh how nice is it to be the. less famous person in your relationship? >> Huge relief.

It's really funny because I feel like. it's I think I'm probably almost. approached more because she's less. approachable. So, you know what I mean? It's like because I'm on TV, I have like. a lesser people are just like I'm in. their living room. So, they're just. like, "Hey, what's up, man? How's it. going?". >> She's actually almost like so famous. that they don't re they don't believe it. a lot of times, too. Like I've we've. been we've been traveling and we've been. standing at the passport check and the.

person's looking at her passport and. he'll be like, "Has anyone ever told you. you look like Scarlett Johansson?". >> Genuinely like genuinely asking and not. real even though he's looking at her. because he's like it would be weirder if. it was her and just give it back to her. and not think it's it was it's a really. kind of awesome. >> That's amazing. >> Shout out to the plus ones out there. The other thing I've noticed too is that. if we're ever ordering food, you know, the order is not going to be right. Because if we like go to like go buy a.

sandwich or something, she'll order and. the person will recognize her and then. doesn't write down any nothing about the. sandwich is completely distracted. All. the ingredients are wrong. We'll open. the sandwich and nothing is. Yeah. Just It's really funny. It's like. bread and and just like a PICKLE AND. >> YEAH. It's a good It's good. I feel like. it's uh we can we can you know. commiserate. >> Yeah, >> that's right. >> I'm I'm on the team. >> So hard. >> I'm here for it. >> You also It was hard as a stand as a as.

a standup because I would have jokes. about either someone the idea of dating. or the idea of marriage or what that is. I just can't there's nothing that will I. I can't be like she's nagging me about. this. Everyone's like shut the up. That's really It eliminated that part of. standup. >> All right. Well, um, can you please tell. us our next question, can you please. tell us about the time Jimmy Buffet. saved your life?

>> Oh my god. With pleasure. It was It was. really uh pretty I mean, RIP. What a. great dude. Like really. I was randomly. seated next to him at a dinner uh in at. like it was I was there with I was. dating a girl at the time who who was. there with friends who were working at. Vice magazine. and um and I was just. randomly seated next to him and I had. never met him before and I didn't know. it was him and so it was like over the. course of dinner and he was like talk I.

I was I surf and he heard that and he. was like oh he just wanted to talk about. surfing because he loves he loves. surfing and only after a while I sort of. noticed little subtle hints that it. might be Jimmy Buffett like he would say. something like whenever I open a new. Margaritavville. I like to go and find somewhere to surf. near where the Margaritavville is. And I. was like, hm, this might be Tenny. Buffet. >> Interesting.

>> And then he was really gracious and and. you know, knew I like to surf. So he's. like, I'm going to go surf tomorrow. morning out in like I think it's like. the west coast of uh of St. Bart. It's. like more remote area. Why don't you. come surf? And I was like, oh my god, of. course. This is fantastic. So, I went to. meet him and immedi I got there and I. kind of immediately thought realized. that maybe it was a thing where he said. like, "Oh, you should come by sometime, but did it mean. like mean it?" You know what I mean? And.

and he's like, "Yeah, come hang." And I. was like, "Great. I will. I'll be there. TOMORROW MORNING.". >> AND suddenly I was like, "Am I psychotic. that I just took him up on this?" And it. was just like him and his him and his. family. And then there was like a surf. instructor that was out there that was. just kind of helping them. And uh he. lent me a board and we went out and I. kind of was hanging back and they all. caught waves like in a row at this and. again no one was there. It was kind of. amazing like no one was at this break. It was like a nice sort of five, six.

foot wave rolling in and and then I. finally was like, I'm gonna catch a. wave. And I caught a wave. And I. remember when we were going out swimming. out, Jimmy was like, be careful when you. get into shallower water cuz there's a. lot of rocks. Like don't don't ride it. all the way in. >> Yeah. >> And again, cuz it's him and I'm talking. to him and I'm excited. I didn't pay him. any. >> any of the advice at all. completely. ignored it and then rode the wave all. the way in and went to turn around on my.

board and paddle back and I like. couldn't paddle forward. >> and I was like I don't know I didn't. know why and then I realized that my. leash had been stuck under one of the. famous rocks he had told me about. >> and uh and I couldn't get out and the. waves were coming and so I couldn't get. reach down and get I was like trying to. tug it out which probably was making it. worse and I and I was stuck and he was. like are you okay in there And again, I. was like trying to play it cool. So, I. was like, "Oh, yeah. I'm great. I love. it. I love all this water I'm. swallowing. I'm doing great.".

>> And then I started getting like kind of. nervous cuz I couldn't get loose uh of. this rock. And so, he sort of sensed it. and had or his or the instructor there. had like a knife. >> knife. Yeah. >> That he just probably for this reason. like to if someone got like the way you. would in scuba diving, like have a knife. and so he swam and cut my leash uh off. and got me out and. And then literally he was like I think. that down the beach might be more your. SPEED.

>> like that might you might like it over. there. And so and then I was and then of. course I was like oh no I destroyed. Jimmy's leash. And so like the next. morning I went to I found like a surf. shop in St. Barts where a leash costs. like $2,000. leash. >> Yeah. and then bought it and brought it. all the way back to cuz I was like I. can't leave him with this broken leash. And of course like he wasn't there and. the guy who was there was like you did. not need to do this.

>> He has like a 100 lead. It's fine. But I. was like I should do this. And then uh. and that's the last time that I got to. serve with him. >> RP the legend man. >> Very cool story. >> Incredible. >> God damn. That's good. >> Lastly, what's your welcome to SNL. moment? Uh, like what do you mean like. when I was welcomed there? Like or or if. I welcome someone there? >> It's it's more like we asked this to. like NFL players, anybody in their. field. Like when when was it where you. were like, "Oh my god, I'm. >> I'm doing it. >> doing this like I'm at.

>> a welcome to Hollywood moment. Welcome. to the NFL.". >> Oh yeah. That. >> Yeah. Yeah. One of them was I was like. getting like I was doing pretty well as. a writer and I remember Lauren saying, "Can you come into my office?" And I. went into his office and Mick Jagger was. there and he was like, "Mick Jagger is. doing a show in Indianapolis tomorrow.

Do you have any jokes he could do?". >> Oh, no. Oh man, >> what? >> Yeah. And I was like, what? You know, I'm thinking like of all things MC. Jagger needs, it's not. He doesn't need. He could say anything and people are. going to scream. >> And on the spot, I was like, uh, just. trying to think about what I was like, does he want to joke about Indianapolis? Like what what kind of jokes? I was.

like, what jokes do you do normally? Uh, M sir Jagger, >> that was that was definitely a I don't. even know what I said. I feel like I cuz. I also wasn't even didn't even know he. was going to be in there. >> Um, that was like that was a real uh. welcome to Hollywood moment. And then um. uh God, I'm trying to think of like what. another what another one is for me. like. there's just like I don't know through. the I think the one of the ones still.

even more recent which was just like a. keeping you it's like keeping it in mind. as I go through it because I still have. ones that are of course. >> shocking when I put them in context. >> and I remember doing opening for. Chappelle at Radio City. >> which was like a couple dreams come true. that's like that was really awesome and. then. >> we I was going to LA and he was going to. LA and he was like come do let's go to a. Lakers game. And so like we went to a. Lakers game together and we're in we're.

in like the player they just immediately. wherever he goes they're like wherever. you want to go in the stadium you're. welcome. So like we're in the players. tunnel. >> and he's like we should you want to. smoke and I'm like SURE. I never I never smoke but I was like I I. D like want to smoke a cigar I'm sure. I'm like sure no problem I would love. that. I'll I'll look totally natural. doing it. So smoking. We're smoking in. in, you know, in Lakers Arena there and.

the Staple Center and. >> and then someone's like, "Do you want to. meet uh Kareem Abdul Jabbar? He's just. he's over here.". >> He's like, "There's a little lounge. It's like Kareem, it's just like a. couple people hanging out like Kareem. Abdul Jabbar." That was a moment where I. just was thinking this is a great like. what a wonderful combination of. folks to to be in a little little. lounge. >> Yeah, that's a pinch me moment. That's. that sounds like a dream. >> Yeah. And it's a it's very nice when you.

get to work with. >> people that you that you love, especially you know it's an athlete. yourself included like LeBron like. LeBron coming to host, Payton coming to. host. like that. Those are really th. those are moments that you kind of can't. believe uh that you get to to do that. because you writing for people that you. love like Larry David or Julie Drifus or. people that who are comedians is already. but then when it's an athlete it's like. a double thing of you never thought.

you'd get to do it or m or a musician. like writing something for Nicki Minaj. or writing something that's a totally. totally uh a thing you know different. different out of your world. It's it's. the best. It's so cool. That's why the. job is just who else gets to work with. those combinations of people over those. years. It's pretty amazing. I feel very. I feel very lucky. >> Well, you should, dude. I appreciate the. stories, man. Thank you for uh thank you. for the time, the stories, all the. above. Thank you for all the. laughs on SNL. The season 51 finale airs.

May 16th at 11:30 Eastern as everyone. knows and we cannot wait to. watch it on NBC Peacock with host Will. Ferrell and musical guest Paul Sir Paul. McCartney. Enjoy it, dude. Can't wait to. see it, man. >> Pleasure. Thank you guys for having me. on. I appreciate it. >> Oh, and also uh starting May 11th, new. episodes of Pop Culture Jeopardy will. premiere on Netflix. So every uh weekend. Oh yeah. Enjoy it. Ladies and gentlemen, >> I will say if you're a Jeopardy fan and.

a pop culture fan, there are some. episodes that are incredible television. Like the game play, you will blow your. mind. Like there's semi-finals and and. the finals were like shockingly uh. dramatic and cool. So it with me. It has nothing to do with me. The actual. people playing the games are you like. you're you're gonna your mind's gonna be. blown if you're a Jeopardy fan. That's. pretty awesome. >> Nice. Hell yeah. >> Well, it, dog. Appreciate you,

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Okay, I'm not doing this anymore. Okay. >> Doing what? >> This whole Travis only likes chicken. fingers. All right. I'm I'm not doing. this anymore. I. >> Who said that that was the case? >> You and you did. >> No, I both used to. >> No, we never said that. >> You didn't like uh food before you. started dating with Taylor. That's all. I'm saying. >> It's bogus. And you you flew out of the. country to prove a point. You flew out. of the country to prove me wrong. personally. >> And I say, "You're welcome. I got you.

out there.". >> Because I don't eat mayonnaise out of a. jar. And because I don't eat at. a restaurant that I just blindly go to. and don't really enjoy goats. >> Blindly go to says the guy who made the. reservation. I blindly went there. You. took me there. >> It was a goat. Goat is in the title. Goat is in the title. >> I was looking at restaurants around the.

area and that happened to have a good. star rating. >> But goat is goat is like third word in. that title. You knew it was coming. >> Yeah. So is lady. Does that mean I'm. going to eat a lady? No, it. don't. >> Can we refocus on Shakespeare? I got to. admit, I've never I'll I've seen like. Romeo. Oh, Romeo, where art thou? Like. I've seen like bits. I don't think I've. ever seen. >> Romeo and Juliet. >> Yeah. I have no idea. I know the premise. of it essentially is like. >> you forbidden love. >> Yep. >> I think we had to read Midsummer Night's.

Dream in high school. That's the only. >> Oh, yeah. >> That's the only Shakespeare play that. I've really actually read. I think. >> we got to get We got to get culture. We. got to get culture. >> We did We did Hamlet. Um. >> Oo, >> but I don't I don't remember. >> I don't remember much. H to be or not to. Hamlet's the to be or not to be. It's. like the Prince of Denmark. I I played. in high school. >> I know there's war, right? H So from. what other people tell me, Hamlet is. like the if you're a dude, you're going.

to be into Hamlet is what I've been. told. >> Hamlet are probably. very dude heavy, too. >> I actually saw Much of Do That's a. That's a movie. >> Another play I did in high school. >> I think I've seen Much of Do About. Nothing as well. >> Big Shakespeare guy in high school. Don't laugh me, Travis. >> What' you play? Brandon, what was your. character? >> I was Benedict. That's the lead, by the. way. >> Oh, Benedict, >> starting quarterback. >> There we go. >> You don't Your boy right here also. played Hamlet. Come at me, Travis. >> Clearly went to a very small school with.

not a lot of stars. >> You son of a Kelsey.