NFL Draft Recap & Blake Griffin on NBA Playoffs, Retirement, Kobe Stories, Lob City & More | Ep 189

Like I told you that I'm trying to dunk. for the first time in my life, right? >> Oh, yeah, that's right. How's it going? >> Well, I tore my quad. >> Oh, so not good. >> Quarter squats of that and then jumping. up on the box and it was working. My. initial height of running and jumping. was like 10 6. Like it was embarrassing. start. I was up over 10 10. >> That's plank. Can you palm them all? >> No, see I got little hands. I can't. palm. How did you learn to jump so high? What. were the What are the techniques that. you implemented to jump over human.

beings? >> I got to be honest, man. Having a black. DAD HELPED. I got to say the quarter squat box jump. combo wasn't really in my UH. >> YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO RESORT TO THAT. I'VE. BEEN DOING this thing called the. penultimate step. Have you ever heard of. the penultimate step? All right, I'm going to stop talking. I'm just going to do your intro. All. right, HERE WE GO. >> WELCOME BACK TO NEW HEIGHTS, LADIES AND.

GENTLEMEN. Boys and girls. Oh, Jason's fired up. You should be too because this is a. wonder show brought to you by Xfinity. We are your hosts. I'm Travis Kelce. This is my big brother, Jason Kelce, out. of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to. the University of Cincinnati. Shout out. to the Tigers back in the Heights. Subscribe on YouTube where we get your. podcast and follow the show on all. social media at New Heights Show with. one S. Jason, please tell everybody what we got coming. up today. >> Thank you for starting this week out. with an amazing episode geared up for. you guys today. We are going to talk a.

little bit about the draft from this. past week, obviously covering heavily. Chiefs and Eagles picks. We're also. going to get into a little out of the. house at NASCAR. Don't know if you saw. that. And Talladega. Oh, and as well, WE. HAVE BLAKE GRIFFIN JOINING US. THAT'S. RIGHT. THE NBA PLAYOFFS ARE UNDERWAY. SO, we decided we get the the funniest, most talented basketball analyst out. there. Well, outside of Charles Barkley. Sorry. Sorry, Blake. >> Dude, he's the [ __ ] best. I I wait to. dive in with Blake, man. He's one of my. [ __ ] favorite people on Earth, man. >> He is the best. We're going to talk NBA.

playoffs, his incredible dunking. abilities, as well as somebody else. trying to dunk, and more. So, before we get to that, let's get to some. of that new news. >> News. coming in. >> New news is brought to you by American. Express. We won a Webby Award. HOW ABOUT. THAT? >> OH. >> THOUGH, very prestigious Webby. >> Nice, man. >> Jason and Travis Kelce won the People's. Voice Award for sports shows podcast. Thank you to all the Niners fans.

Kylie also won an award. Kylie won an. award NGL. The real ones voted her. podcast Wait, did they vote on that? Mike, I got to light down. Light down, Mike. Um. So, this is voted on? Or is this just. given? Well, Mike does a lot more than. lighting, but yeah, for right now, he is. a lighting guy. >> What is this, a hotel table lamp? >> That's 100% Yeah, I'm I'm on LA, baby. I'm. doing I'm trying to sling our garage. beer. Leave me alone. All right, anyways. New Heights and Travis Kelce. won the People's Voice Award for sports.

shows. parentheses podcast. Very prestigious. award. Kylie also won an award with NGL. They won podcast of the year. >> Woo. >> Which I believe is a bigger award that. we received. >> It's probably the biggest award that. they have there. >> Very cool. Very cool. >> Shout out to Ky running away with it. I. love it. >> That's right. That's right. Shout out to. everybody on the staff over there, Emma, everybody else that has their footprints. on the show. Uh, you guys have been killing it all. year. Way to go. Yeah, and thank you to. all the Niners fans that voted us. We. very much appreciate it. Um Travis.

uh onto the next bit of new news. >> What's that? >> Do we have beef with Meryl Streep? >> I hope she doesn't have beef with me. >> Let's play this clip. Gentlemen, Travis. >> I'm a fan of Meryl Streep. >> I don't have any beef with her. >> You You might want to wait until you see. this clip. Yeah, Travis got called out. for some reason in Devil Wears Prada 2's. pro- video. >> Oh, [ __ ]. >> The hardest thing about shooting in. Milan was walking in stilettos on the. cobblestones. I'd like to see Travis. Kelce do that. >> Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, HO, HO, HO, WHAT?

WHAT? >> TRAV. >> OH, MERYL, you have no idea how good I. am at walking in heels, okay? >> I think we should recreate this. I think. I think we should put this to the test, not recreate. >> to have to find some size 14 heels. first. >> Okay. Well, we can have those. custom-made. I'm sure there's some WNBA. players that can put us on to some. spots. >> What's the heel though? Is it a heel? Cuz I wear like Chelsea boots, are those. heels? >> No, no, no, it's going to be a stiletto. It's going to be a pointy bottom. That's. why it's hard. >> I'll give credit where credit's due. I. don't I don't think I can do it, Meryl.

I'll let you I'll let you have that. >> What, are you a quitter? You're a. quitter? You're just going to give up to. Meryl Streep? >> No, I just don't think I'm going to make. it. >> Travis? >> and. walk in stilettos. Meryl Streep has. quite. >> Meryl? >> the resume. >> Well, she has a resume. That doesn't. mean she's better at walking in. stilettos than you, just cuz she's a. famous actress. Travis, we're comparing. >> I can kind of correlate that. I can. correlate that. >> We don't bow down to anybody. >> When it's Meryl Streep, you kind of do. You just kind of like bow down. >> Well, listen, if she was saying acting. ability, I would get it.

>> I completely get it. To be fair, I would. be acting if I had heels on, so. >> Good point. That's a good point. All right. We're not going to put it to. the test, apparently. >> I'm not. I think I'm going to let you. have that one, Meryl. Can't wait to see. Devil Wears Prada 2 though. The first. one was a banger. I know this one's. going to be epic. >> No dumb questions. Now that he has been. called out by Meryl Streep, does Travis. Kelce think he can walk on cobblestone. with high heels? Well, we're never going. to find out, kitty. >> I'll tell you what, Meryl. If I ever. find myself in Italy on that. cobblestone, I'll try and find a size 14.

and we'll put it to the test. >> All right, now. Jason, you're a Talladega champ. You and Ricky. Bobby. >> That is correct. I am I am a Talladega. champ. That's right. I went down there. on behalf of Hendrick Motorsports. I I. been filming some things over at their. headquarters in Charlotte. I've been. doing some exercises to really learn. what it's like to compete in the sport. of NASCAR. I went out there, I trained. uh with the athletes. I was doing. learning their techniques, all the.

things that go into coordinating a pit. stop. These guys are changing tires, gassing these cars all the way up and. sometimes under the 9 seconds on a stop. They'll change all four tires, put gas. in the vehicle, and then get it out on. its way. It's remarkable the. coordination and timing and expertise. that goes into that. I also went out on. the track uh with William Byron who. drove me around at over 190 mph around. the Charlotte Motor Speedway, uh which. was [ __ ] awesome and terrifying all. at the same time. I then got to drive my. own vehicle. They did not let me drive.

190 mph, but I still drove faster than I. ever driven in my life. >> Ooh, how fast you go? How fast you go? >> They do it by RPMs. So, I was driving. This thing had a regulator on it that. capped you at 5,000 RPMs. And they said. at one point I went 140. Everybody else. I was going 120. So, somewhere between. 120 and 140. >> Oh, that's nothing. >> You've done way faster. >> I was going 135 in a Caravan when I was. in high school. That thing was flying. around. >> do not go 145. I guarantee you that. >> They they go they go 135 and they shake.

back and forth when you get up over 120. It got a little dicey. >> They're not as aerodynamic as you think. they are. >> Uh anyways, the last bit of it was to go. to Talladega and to be with the pit crew. uh with Corey LaJoie's team. Uh the 17. car with Hendrick Motorsports. And it. was incredible. I got to see it. firsthand what it's like on race day, how they set up everything. These pit. crews, man, they're in charge of setting. everything up on pit road, right? There's five of these guys that are. doing all these jobs. The jackman has to. run out there, jack up the car,

take the new tire, put it on after the. changer has taken off the uh. the front right. He has to put the front. right tire on immediately after that. Then the changer, it he's bolting that. thing on, He's taking the jack off, run. around, jacking up the other side, doing. it over there. And all this stuff is. happening and it's the dance that is. taking place of speed, strength, athleticism, coordination. It is. remarkable what those guys do each and. every stop. On top of that, the drivers, everything they're doing to gain. position, especially at Talladega, their like foot.

is on the gas the entire race. They do. They is you are wide open. The track is. angled at like 33°. >> Yeah. >> So you are just like zooming around that. thing and a lot of it comes down to. drifting and it's a very technical race. from that standpoint. So Corey Day, first time ever racing at Talladega, ended up winning. Winning the race. Our. driver. And I'll tell you what, what. they had me doing, I was the sign man. So you put the sign down on pit road. That lets the driver know where to stop.

at. Sometimes you might want to stop it. short. Sometimes you might want to stop. it. where he normally stops at. Sometimes. you want to stop a little wide. So we. did a short wide stop. So it was a. pretty technical job of the sign guy. >> Get this [ __ ] sign guy out of here. Dude, I just have I have like one. question. >> Oh, that wasn't my only job. Then they. would have me being the gas I don't even. know if there's a title for it, but I. was passing the fuel in. And let me tell. you, we won FIRST PLACE. I WAS THE BEST. [ __ ] GAS CAN PASSER ON PIT ROAD THAT. DAY, BABY. CHAMPIONS! ONE AND OH, BABY!

>> THIS GUY IS SICK. IT WAS A SATURDAY race. though, right? It wasn't the like. >> the It was not the Cup Series. It was. not the Cup Series. >> Still still though. Cup Series. still though. And for him to have his. first race at Talladega and him come. away with some. with a with a podium is pretty dope. >> That was the coolest thing. Obviously. this kid, he's a really good sprint car. racer. He's won a bunch of uh, races in. that world. Uh, now on the O'Reilly. Series, first race at Talladega, gets. his first win there. It was so electric. down there. And uh, just happy for him.

getting out the gates like that, man. That's a awesome moment. Uh, and it was. cool It was cool to just watch. It was. cool to be a part of. Obviously, my. contribution was pretty much nothing. But, you know what? I still get to say. I'm a NASCAR champion, baby. >> Why didn't they put a skully on you? Why. are you a scuba Steven in there? >> It's a good question. If you're behind. the car, near the gas at all, everybody. back there has to be in 100% flameproof. clothing. So, your shoes, your socks, >> You don't have it on your beard.

>> Uh, you're right. I actually think. technically I was not following code. I. think that that thing was supposed to be. over my beard. >> Flag on the play. Take the Take the. metal away from him. >> Don't you do this, Travis. Don't you do. this. Um, but I'll say that not only were we. there, uh, on behalf of Hendrick. Motorsports to witness what it's like to. be in a pit crew, to see a race first. hand, to hear in the radio everything. that's happening between the driver and. the pit crew and the chief, we were also. there to just experience Talladega. And. to be as my first time at a NASCAR. event, and it was awesome. All the other.

teams, uh, the way it's set up, the. people that were there, the energy. Like, when you watch it on TV, it does. not do it justice. And everybody's said. that to me for years. I went to the Indy. 500 in college, felt similarly, but it's. There's a. level of having all of your senses. engaged in watching. these machines operate at this level. that takes over you when you're there. live. Like, you feel You literally feel. these cars coming by you. Not just the.

wind, the revving of the motors, right? That. That You feel the ground moving and. shaking in some ways. Like, it is a. it is a very, um, sensory driven. experience. Whether you're in there, whether you're out there sitting on a RV. watching outside of it, it was fun. It. was It was a blast, especially now that. I know more about it, rather than just. watching them go around in circles and. be like, I don't know how most of this. works. >> These guys are really good at taking. left turns. >> Somebody crosses it when the when the. checkered flag's going. But, yeah,

awesome experience, really appreciate. them welcoming me in to kind of train. with them and see what it's like. firsthand. Um, these changers, my guy. Rod and Jafar, freaking they got five. bolts. They got the single lug in the. Cup Series. It's just one lug in the Cup. Series. They're getting five of these. things off, taking them on. I mean, it's. it's wild. It's a good time. >> Hell yeah, man. And Hendrick's is. obviously, I mean, they're they're one. of the top dogs every single year going. going around the NASCAR circuit. >> Shout out to Jeff Gordon.

>> Yeah, hell yeah. My guy Clint Bowyer's. been in the facility. He's a good. friends with Brett Veach and he's. obviously a part of Hendrick's, too. And. it's a fascinating league and uh it got. even more interesting since Michael. Jordan's come in. I know they had that. lawsuit. It's been amazing seeing 23 racing uh. take the [ __ ] off this year. I mean, I'm. pretty sure they've won the majority of. the races so far. I know he won, I think. the first three, four, maybe even like. six out of 10 or something like that. Those guys are absolutely rolling over. there.

>> Having a good year, for sure. >> And it's been cool to see him kind of. take his greatness and and uh have it. rub off onto the NASCAR world a little. bit. And. um yeah, it's just it's it's such a. fascinating sport. And I'm I'm telling. you guys, if you guys ever go to a. NASCAR event, man, you are not going to. be disappointed. That thing is alive. It. is rocking. It is not just people just. sitting around watching the cars go by. Everybody is engaged and there's things. around the track and inside the track. that you can get it you can have some. fun with as well, you know? I think it's.

just a it's the ultimate weekend party. if you can get to one of these things. >> For sure. And the Boulevard is equally. as fun after the race. Highly recommend. >> Well, last bit of new news we got is. George Kittle would like the Jason Kelce. intro for his alarm clock every single. morning. >> That's interesting. Okay, okay. >> He tweeted out, "Can I get a custom one. of these introductions for my alarm. clock every morning, please?" George, we. can make this happen. You're going to. have to come on on show, though, BABY. LET'S GO! >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS. >> TO SAY. >> GET MY GUY KITTLE ON THE SHOW, SAY MAN.

>> but you got to come on, George. We've. been WAITING FOR THIS. >> GET MY GUY on here. Have some fun, man. >> We've had so many legendary tight ends, and we still haven't had George Kittle. on, and now he just wants me to give him. AN INTRO. NO! YOU GOT TO BE A 92% OF. FIRST, GEORGE. THAT'S HOW THIS WORKS. >> UH MAN, IT'S CRAZY HOW some of like the. closest people to me I haven't like. invited on the show yet. I'm the [ __ ] worst, man. >> Well, you just you don't like the. presumption, right? You don't. >> Yeah, I don't.

I don't like asking people. Yeah, I don't like asking people. >> You're a polite Clevelander. You don't. want to impose. It's. >> People have standards, >> Yeah, but I think George would like to. come on the show. He's clearly I mean, he's asking to come on the show at this, right? >> Sounds like Sounds like he's he just. wants an intro, and um George. >> He doesn't want to come on the show. He. wants us He wants to skirt the show and. just get the intro. >> You don't just get these kind of things. You don't get it. You have to You have. to come on the show, George. >> Would love to. Love to give you an. intro, George. >> Get my guy Kittle on here, man.

>> Anytime you want that you also do us a. solid and come on the show. Absolutely. >> No, no. >> All right. In case you missed it, we did. have a couple episodes drop last week. There's a lot happening with the draft, a lot of NFL news coming out, but we did. drop a Charvarius Ward episode. We also. dropped a bonus episode with uh my. former offensive line coach Jeff. Stoutland. Uh they are both out there if you want. to check them out. >> Obviously, Charvarius Ward was pushing. uh the the unbelievable movie Apex. It. is a [ __ ] thriller that you are not.

going to want to miss. And then. obviously, Jeff Stoutland, man. One of. one of the best ever do it. And uh near. dear friend to Jason, obviously. It was. just cool to sit down and hear his. stories, man. >> Yeah, and it wasn't just Stoutland, you. know, we had um Molada come on, too. Ceallach was on there. We did a little. round table. Trav and I talked to him. I. really wanted it to try and be a. celebration of his whole career and some. of the things he's done and meant to. certain people. Obviously, Molada had a. That clip did really well. One of the. things that I think. you know, I think it's being taken. a little bit the wrong way. I do want to. say this cuz it feels like it's getting.

out there is like he mentioned uh. you know, I asked him, you know, what. went wrong last season and his answer by. a lot of people because he said, you. know, you got to call the right play and. the right defense. That's being made to. look as though that's a dig solely at. Kevin Petula. I really think if you look. at the whole quote, if you look at the. whole quote, and this is the way Stout. is, you know, the whole quote is really. referencing the players and the coaches. He talks about executing the plays, execution, and then calling not calling. bad plays and the bad defenses. And.

although Petula was the. play caller, I know Stout like. everybody's involved in that game plan. Everybody's involved in building that. thing. So, the plays that I'm getting. called, really all he's saying there is. to be successful in football, it comes. down to the players executing and the. coaches putting the players in the best. position possible. And last year that. didn't happen. That's what I was. trying to say with that quote. So, whatever. >> Just so you 92%ers understand, the offensive coordinator is.

is given the responsibility of putting. the game plan together, right? He is he. is a huge huge huge part of putting the. pass game together, matching it up with. the run game that is put together. But, there are different like the offensive. coaching staff comes together and. somebody is given the run game, somebody's given the pass game, somebody's given the play action game, somebody's given the screen game. There. are people that are that are putting in. their input on the on the what the red. zone looks like versus what backed up. looks like when you're when you're. backed up to your own red zone. Like. this is a this is this isn't just one.

guy putting together a game plan and. everybody following lead. You know what. I mean? Like this is it is it is. everybody on the same understanding that. this is the best thing for us to attack. the team that we're playing this week. So, to throw it all on one person, first of. all, Stout would never [ __ ] do that. And second of all, for people to make. that assumption, I think it's pretty. unfair. >> Yeah, I I mean, I get it because you. said calling plays, but that's not the. intention of it. A lot of people, just. like you said, don't understand what.

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>> You're insane. Well, how about we get into some NFL. draft recap, Jason? How about it, huh? >> I love that idea, Travis. >> Yeah, I had a feeling you'd be down. Draft. recap is brought to you by Expedia, the one place you go to go places. Chiefs picks, we we moved up to pick. six. We had the ninth pick and the 29th. pick and we traded up for. the best DB in the draft, baby. >> I He almost like he knew it was coming. Is that a red suit? And he he was in a.

red suit? >> No, I think the red light is on him. I. think it was more of like a. >> It's making it look more. >> Yeah, it was more of like a what's that. color? Like a. >> I don't know. I'm terrible with colors. >> It's like a dusty rose. Um, but DB men shoe, he's down there, Louisiana guy, I believe. Went to LSU. And this face was made when he saw the. Chiefs trade up. So, he knew he was. going to. a pretty respectable team once this. happened. And I'm sure he got the call. when he saw them going up. Delain on getting drafted by the Chiefs, a lot of top 10 teams, they're really.

not too good, but that's not the. situation here. We have a championship. team, just had one little down year, but we're right back at it. And that's. what I'm talking about, baby. Already. coming with the [ __ ] mindset of being. a [ __ ] top team. I absolutely love. it. We had the first round pick, the. 29th pick, as well as moving up to get. Delain. Clemson DN Peter Woods at 29. pretty pumped about getting somebody on. the other side of Chris Jones there on. the D-line. Obviously, speed is out the is out the.

world at at at how big he is. And I think he's going to fit right in. in Spag's scheme here. >> Yeah, I mean, listen, I think that's one. of the beautiful thing about Spag's. Spag's scheme. He He can find guys that. really fit what he envisions uh. within the defense. He's always very. multiple. You see guys that go in there. and do specific tasks. And. obviously, they like this kid to go up. there get him in the first round. And I. also like the Delain pick. That. defensive backfield has been picked. apart so much over the past what, three.

years or so? You know, Justin Reed, uh. you got uh L'Jarius Sneed. >> I'll say this, a lot of the a lot of the. big name DBs that we've had in years. past are elsewhere right now. So, getting a. unbelievable DB, the best in the draft, and then getting a guy on the D-line. that can really help Chris Jones. uh. not get double teamed as much, or at. least create matchups to where this kid. can thrive early on and and and really. bring something to the team. I think. that's going to be a a huge part to the. defense. But, I mean, it doesn't stop. there on the D-line. We got our Mason.

Thomas, edge from Oklahoma. The guy's a. [ __ ] freak of nature in terms of. athleticism and explosiveness. I can't. wait to see how this guy gets after the. quarterback, man. It's been kind of. something that the Chiefs have been. looking at to get better at, and that's. getting after the QB and and really. putting quarterbacks under duress, man. Um obviously, we've always had Chris. Jones there, and George is a [ __ ]. workhorse. Uh got Gillette last year, but I think. this is going to be a a game-changer at. the at the edge position. I know he had.

a hamstring last year on an unbelievable. fumble recovery. Uh so, we'll see him. when he gets in the building, and I'm. sure Spags will have a fun time. uh putting him to work as well. >> There we go. Who else we got here? >> We got another cornerback from Oregon. He's kind of more of a nickel guy. I'm. excited to see uh this guy get to work. Spags is obviously his his nickel. package is it can get confusing to a lot. of guys. So, I'm I'm sure uh Jayden. Kennedy is going to [ __ ] be uh be. quite the chess piece for Spags. But. after that, um two to three picks that.

I'm pretty [ __ ] excited about. And. that's because they're all I finally got. to the offensive side of the the ball on. in round five. Emeka Etta-Johnson, running back from Nebraska. I believe he. he was like first-team Big Ten. Uh won a few awards at the running back. position last year. We We actually got. to see him live when Nebraska played. Cincinnati at Arrowhead. And then uh the. other sideline, uh I saw Ross Allen, wide receiver from Cincinnati, who I am. [ __ ] jacked up to see. Uh we got. another Bearcat in the building. We. actually got two Bearcats in the.

building. Uh one came as well as uh Jeff. Caldwell in the in the free agency pick. up. But uh Ross Allen is he's he's a. route runner, man. He's a route runner. When we were talking about, you know, what do I want to see in a guy in the. wide receiver room, um he has his own. twist on a lot of routes. And And he has. the quickness, he has the decisiveness. He really knows how to use his shoulders. and his quickness and rhythm to to get. DBs in a in a bind, man. >> Listen, he's from Cincinnati, so you. know he's going to be tough. You know. he's going to be physical. He's going to.

be a guy that loves football. And Andy. loves drafting Bearcats. I mean, look at. how many successful Bearcats he drafted. Not just me and you, Brent Celek, Trent. Cole. >> Yeah, Bryan Cook. >> Oh, Cook. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, by. the way, Andy loves the loves the. Bearcats. Cyrus Allen, Cincinnati. Bearcat, TOUGH, PHYSICAL, FAST. >> I GET THIS DUDE OUT OF HERE. UM OVERALL, I thought we did an. unbelievable job on getting young guys. that that looked like they love ball on.

the film that I watched of them and. looked like they can come in and help. out right away, man. >> Garrett Nussmeier, son of a coach. I was. actually with his father in. Philadelphia. You see? What do you think of the Chiefs draft. class draft? A lot of defense early, getting some offensive pieces late. I. guess you got to solve some of the. offensive stuff early in the draft this. year or or earlier in free agency this. year with Kenneth Walker. >> Yeah, man, I'm I'm pumped. I'm pumped on. just seeing these young guys getting in. the building, you know? I thought we we. had a great team last year. We got a lot. of those pieces back, and the ones that. we lost, we filled those needs ASAP. So,

I think I think these guys, once they. get in the building, they feel they feel. the culture and they they feel how we do. things here. It's an exciting time, man. And I thought. shout out to Brett Veach and the crew. for doing their doing hard work and. getting the guys that we need in the. building, man. >> All righty. Well, E- Eagles also had a. draft this week, and they went round. one, PICK 20, MAKAI LEMON, WIDE receiver. out of USC. Was the Biletnikoff. I don't. know if that's how you say it, but he. was the receiver of the year in college.

football. Should be pretty good. This. was a patented Howie Roseman pick. He. was expected to be a top 15 guy, started. sliding, and Howie trades up ahead of. the Steelers to snag him at pick 20. You. know, this is just further proof that I. think this Eagles offense is changing, right? Like uh you know, the Eagles and. Jalen Hurts have not thrown the ball. over the middle of the field very much. That's something that fans have. criticized a lot. Uh and this was really. most of his production in college, right? He's a shorter guy, going to. operate out of the slot, a little bit.

smaller, but he is physical. >> You put that film on, man, this guy can. play some [ __ ] ball. >> Catches everything. They're playing some. highlights where he is going up and. getting the ball. >> Strong receiver, too, man. He's a strong. receiver. >> A lot of the comparisons are the Amon-Ra. Amon-Ra St. Brown, uh Mini Puka Nacua. Um and you see exactly uh with this. offense that Shawn McVay is bringing. with all the motions and and shifting. the formations from three by one to two. by two, having those guys insert uh some. of the creative unique things they might.

be able to do with this guy. Cowboys not. too happy that the Eagles traded up for. him or that the Cowboys traded with the. Eagles to allow them to come up to 20. and draft Makai Lemon. Uh @JDCowboys2, I did ask would have rather traded with. North Korea. That's a pretty hilarious. tweet right there. I don't know how many. picks North Korea had in this one. Didn't see a lot of Koreans off the. board. We have Jerry Jones on trading. with the Eagles. If I eliminated trading. with all the teams that I wanted to beat. their ass, you wouldn't have anybody. left to trade with.

>> Meaning he wants to whoop everybody's. ass, not just the Eagles. So, if he. needs to trade, he's not just. you know, not trading to one team. He's. Yeah. >> Well, we sure appreciate it. We sure. appreciate it. Yeah, Eagles have done. this where they've been trading up. recently. I feel like how we a lot of. this has gone from like when he sees. somebody sliding and sees the perceived. value, especially if it's at a position. of need, he is not shy of pulling the. trigger. Did the same thing with Jalen. Carter. Um obviously, we drafted value with. Cooper DeJean. As he was sliding in the. draft a couple years ago, they've been.

doing a great job of getting value out. of some of these picks in terms of like. where the consensus has them rated. Uh. pick two, they go tight end from. Vanderbilt, Eli Stowers. I don't know. anything about him cuz I don't watch a. lot of college football. I do know that. >> a bit about him, man. This kid is a. [ __ ] stud. >> Travis. Please tell me. Please tell me. You guys got a stud, man. The word. around town is he's a He doesn't have. quite the size, but I'm I'm telling you, man, this kid knows how to play some. [ __ ] football, man. He knows how to. run routes. He's got a good feel. Um he can he can he can run, and when he.

has the ball in his hands, man, you'd be. surprised on how much uh you know, with. this lack of size that they're saying, how many how many tackles he breaks and. uh just how good he is, man. He was um. He was one of Vanderbilt's best players, I thought, when I watched him play. >> And again, it's another thing with this. offense, right? Big decisions you have. to make. Do you go 11 personnel? Do you. go 12 personnel? How can you do all. these runs and concepts and motioning. guys around and 12 personnel? A lot of. teams utilize it. I mean, the Rams were. utilizing 13 personnel. One running back.

with three tight ends. When you have a. guy that can go out wide while also. coming inside and block linebackers and. safeties, uh you know, crack down on a. defensive end, uh you have screen. options with them. These guys are very. valuable, and we see it addressed right. away with the first-round pick with. Mcclellan and the second-round pick with. Eli Stowers. >> Oh, yeah. >> Third pick, they addressed the offensive line. Obviously, Lane Johnson is getting a. little bit older. We thought they would. take a tackle at some point. Some people. thought it would be earlier in the. draft. They ended up addressing it at. the third round at pick 68 with MARK KEL.

BELL. MONSTROUS OF A MAN. THIS GUY IS. HUGE. WE don't have his stats up here, but he's something like 6'9" 350, basically. He is a a big boy. He is a. big boy. He is a big man out here in. >> Big of a boy are you? >> He's a He's a big boy. He's a big old. son of a gun. >> Honestly, this one I I mean, mountain of. a man, long arms, big old hands, not the. most fleet of foot, which is a little. surprising in some ways to me because. this system is more rooted in outside. zone concepts. Traditionally, these.

offenses have drafted guys that can open. their hips and run and cut off on the. backside and do screens and play well. with the misdirection game. This guy is. suited to be a great pass blocker, right? Drop-back, long arms, very rangy, going to be very good in that regard as. long as he can rear mirror and redirect. the people. More of a power downhill. guy, which some of these offenses have. shifted recently. The Rams now run more. duo than they do outside zone, right? They were Those offenses started in.

outside zone. Now they're running more. dive concepts, more downhill plays. Maybe that's something that that'll tell. you about what the Eagles think they. might do in the future. They don't go with a smaller, more. athletically nimble tackle. They go with. the big stalwart that'll be able to. protect the quarterback and run downhill. runs. Interesting pick there at in the. third round. Round five, they go Cole. Payton. Get a little quarterback depth. from North Dakota State. We've had some. North Dakota State success at the. quarterback position. >> Okay, Carson. >> Shout out. Yeah, Cole Payton.

Interesting, you know, we still have. We still have Tanner McKee on the. roster. Obviously, Jalen Hurts is the. starter. We still have Tanner McKee. Still have All right, went out and. signed in this offseason Andy Dalton. Now we have another quarterback in the. room in Cole Payton in round five. Round. six, they go Michael Morris. Different. than Mark Equally as big. Monster of a. man. This guy is explosive. He's close. to that 350 bill mark, too. I mean, he's. a big boy. He's a big boy out here in. Philadelphia. He's close to 340, pushing.

that, something like that. I mean, the. jersey's hanging on for dear life when. you put that tape on. He is 6'5, huge, but this guy can move. I mean, he's. jumping 30 inches at that weight. He's. running sub five in the 40. I don't even. know if that's true. But his RAS score. was off the charts. >> Get this dude out of here. >> Anyways, but honestly, this guy can. move. Very explosive. Honestly, you look. at the metrics, it's like, why was this. guy around in the sixth round? Which. kind of is concerning a little bit.

Like, when you're that big, that strong, that fast, you're not supposed to be. there in the sixth round, right? You're. usually going earlier. So, maybe the. tape is more of a developmental player. I don't know what it's I didn't watch. him specifically, but when you look at. the metrics like this guy should be a. much higher pick. Uh. maybe he doesn't bend well. I don't. know. We'll find out though. I'm excited. to watch him play. I like watching big. athletic freaks OF NATURE, WHICH GETS ME. TO THE NEXT GUY IN THE SEVENTH ROUND. OWA ODIGHIZUWA FROM NIGERIA. HE'S NEVER. EVEN [ __ ] PLAYED FOOTBALL, BUT HE. LOOKS LIKE A NIGERIAN GOD, NOT A GREEK.

GOD, A NIGERIAN GREEK GOD. HE'S [ __ ]. HUGE. LOOK AT PULL HIM UP PULL UP HIS. [ __ ] 6'4 AND 1/2, 306 LBS, 6% BODY FAT, 39-IN VERTICAL, 10-FT 10 BROAD JUMP, 14. IN LONGER THAN ANY OTHER DEFENSIVE. TACKLE, 463 40. IF YOU PUT IT SIDE BY. SIDE WITH MYLES GARRETT, HE'S DWARFING. HIM. ONE CAVEAT THOUGH, HE HASN'T PLAYED. FOOTBALL. >> OH, YEAH. Just a small. >> He's a D-lineman. Just [ __ ] run fast. and hit people and get in THE WAY. WREAK. HAVOC. KNOCK [ __ ] OVER. YOU'RE [ __ ]. SUPERHUMAN. Put his highlights up of him.

working out cuz I do want to point this. out. I I I'm kind of being funny. There's a lot on this kid's shoulder. because of what happened with Jordan. Mailata, right? The Eagles in the. seventh round. >> Well, there there's a lot of on this. kid's shoulders because he just got. compared to Myles Garrett. >> Well, but before we get to it, watch. these highlights and tell me what you. see cuz I I noticed something right away. that I think it's going to take some. time to develop. Not this part. Look at. that. I mean, what the [ __ ] is this? It's like they went TO THE ARNOLD. CLASSIC and found the biggest specimen.

they could. Here's where I started. noticing stuff. What do you see? >> I mean, he's just not used to moving. like a football player. He can get going. straight, but he's he's just got to put. in a lot of work and it's a different. type of skill set, man. >> Exactly. Well, here's the thing. He The. metrics are off the charts. So, to get a. guy with this much physical talent in. the seventh round is incredible. But he's never played the game. There's. a level of stiffness in the change of. direction and the agility that he's. going to have to develop, right? >> And there's an understanding of the game.

to have the savviness to play the game. within the game that is yeah, exactly. It's definitely a. developmental guy but to get drafted in. the seventh round is quite the feat for. him. All that hard work that he's done. to put into his body to get to where he. is right now man, hats off brother. >> If he can learn to play with great pad. level, work on changing direction more. efficiently, using his hands. If this. all pans out, you are you could have an. incredibly high player with a high. ceiling. Those are a lot of ifs and it. is rare for a guy that's never played.

the game to just come in and learn the. sport. Even though football and. defensive line in particular like dude, you take big, fast, strong people. They. usually pan out. But this is a very. green player. It did work out with. Jordan Mailata. There for every Jordan. Mailata it works out with, there are. guys that it doesn't work out with. They. I remember Brock Lesnar got brought into. a camp one year with the Minnesota. Vikings and he was there for like maybe. one or two preseason games and I mean he. is a physical specimen. >> Yeah. You have to also have the. knowledge of the game, the desire, the. love of the game.

Especially if you're going to be playing. in the trenches, you got to want it. >> We're going to see how much he wants it. man cuz you're going to get you're going. to get double teamed, you're going to. get blind sided, you're going to get. tried like trap blocked. Like it's it's. it's as much of a mental game in that. interior as it is physical and. it's it can get pretty taxing on on you. if you are at least it can get pretty. humbling in the beginning for him. So. hopefully he sticks at it and. hopefully the Eagles found someone. that's uh. that's got that Jordan Mailata type of.

spark to him. >> Well, what Jordan had obviously was. great coaching too. You know, just Allen. it took him two years working with. Jordan to try and get him on the field. Right? He almost got cut up until the. moment he started producing. This guy's going to be working with. Clint Hurt, you know, Jeremiah Washburn. There's really good coaches that the. Eagles have on that side of the ball and. if I'm a coach, I am so excited to work. with this kid. Like you see these. metrics, you know there's potential. there. The explosion, the linear ability. to move is astronomical. Like you don't. see these kind of numbers out of.

football players really ever at this. size. >> Yeah. >> So the if that type of linear explosion, if we can get the agility going, if we. can get the body mechanics right and we. can teach the technique in rushing the. passer and and defending the run and how. to use your hands and how to sink your. hips and understand formations. There's. going to be a learning process, but I am. very excited to see how if this kid can. get it done. >> Do you think he's an interior D-lineman. or do you think he's an edge guy? They. gave the comparison to Myles Garrett, the 40 and the broad jump and the.

explosiveness, all that's all that. sounds good on paper, but I think he's. kind of more of a three technique just. based off of how how his hips are and. and just you know the techniques and. everything like that. >> I think he'll be a 3-4 D-end and he'll. be a three technique when they reduce. from a certain side, right? Like he's. not going to be He might be able to play. a five technique with like an outside. back around the ball outside of him. I. doubt they have him on the edge, right? I doubt he's going to be that player. Maybe, you know, some teams have done that with bigger.

guys, especially early downs to just man. mountain Dean tight ends. >> Yeah. >> But I would expect this guy probably to. get a lot of work at three technique, four-eye, four technique, five technique. in base defense. >> I can't wait to see this guy put the. pads on. first day. It's I can't wait. >> I I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm going to go down. there just to watch him myself. Yeah, three picks in the seventh round. There's actually a pick right before. that I missed I glossed over it. Cole. Wisniewski, safety from Texas Tech. played with a Wisniewski. He would not.

transition to a safety. We also got. round seven pick 252. Keishawn James Newby, outside linebacker. New Mexico. So Eagles opposite of the. Chiefs, they go offense early with some. of those higher picks and then once they. got to the later rounds. really started addressing some of the. defensive needs while still is primarily. offense actually. They didn't draft a. defensive guy till round seven. But then. they went straight defense. Either way, I'm excited a lot about this class. The. other part of the Eagles draft was. Howie trading.

the two third round picks to the Vikings. for Jonathan Greenard. This was a. missing piece on that defense. Obviously, Jaylen Phillips signed a $120. million. deal in free agency. They lost out on. that edge defender who really brought a. lot to the defense midway through the. season. Now they get Jonathan Greenard, a a very good player from Minnesota. >> Four years, 100 mil. >> Yeah. >> How much money does Philly have, man? >> I Howie is a wizard. I mean, he just.

finds a way to get it done, you know? I. don't know that it's. I feel like they can finagle whatever. they want cuz they just know how to. structure it. I don't really understand. how it works. Oh, also got to shout out. Jeffrey Lurie for spending the money. Uh. but yeah, they they find a way to. they find a way to get really good. players and they do it very often by. spending a [ __ ] ton of money. So, shout. out to the Luries for investing in the. team. Shout out to Howie for. understanding the salary cap and how to. finagle every dollar you can out of that. thing to maximize the talent on the. roster. So, that is also a huge part of.

the Eagles draft, which ultimately with. that alone is a successful draft. Mac. Lemon pan out, some of these guys they. picked, the tight end from Vanderbilt. I. mean, this guy in the seventh round, if. we get another Jordan Mailata, although. I don't want to start anointing him yet. Lot to like about this draft from the. Eagles. Um. All righty. Outside of Eagles and. Chiefs, there were a bunch of other. players selected in this year's draft. >> Yeah. Roughly 290. >> We do not watch a lot of these guys, but. we are excited to see some of them play.

Obviously, everybody's talking about. Fernando Mendoza, number one overall to. the Raiders. And people have known that. for a long time. Only the fourth. quarterback since 1967 to win the. Heisman, the Natty, and go number one. overall in the same season. That's an. interesting stat. >> There you go. I'm interested to see, you. You exactly how they how they go about. playing them. Obviously, they have Kirk. Cousins. Um. I know I know Ty Simpson was picked by. the Rams. >> Matthew Stafford. >> Our guy Matt Stafford is still obviously. the he just won MVP. He'll be the. starter there. So, you get a guy that's,

you know, looking to learn under him. I'm not I'm interested to see if, you. know, that's the approach the Raiders. take. >> Yeah, where do you stand on that? Like. I do. >> I mean, I'm for it, obviously, because. I've I've seen it work. I've seen it. happen. I've, you know, I've seen Pat. Mahomes learn under Alex Smith. >> got Aaron Rodgers, Pat Mahomes. A lot of really big name guys. Stafford. a second. But there's also a lot of big. Tom Brady behind Drew Bledsoe. There's a There's a learning process.

But at the same point. to what Deion Sanders said, man, I I. never learned nothing sitting on the. bench. Like you need to go out there and. play to do the best like. >> Oh, that Deion. That was a epic [ __ ]. quote. >> That was a banger. Peyton Manning, I. mean, led the league in interceptions, but he played his rookie year and. learned a lot, I'm sure. >> I mean, look what Caleb Williams was. able to do last year. >> I do think in general, more so than. playing or not, I think it's really good. for young quarterbacks in particular to. learn how to prepare, to learn how to. watch film, to learn all that stuff from.

veteran quarterbacks that have been. doing it for a long time and know that. side of it. So, like. >> Yeah, and he's one of the best at that. Yeah. >> Yeah, Mendoza is in a great situation. just being in the same room with Kirk. Cousins, regardless of what the playing. time situation ends up being at the end. of the day. He is going to learn a ton. about what it takes to compete and and. prepare at the highest level. Same thing. obviously for Ty Simpson. >> And I'm sure he's got old Tom Brady. right there in his back pocket helping. him if he ever needs, you know, >> There's another There's another guy. there. Yeah, you're right.

All right. Well, outside of those. quarterbacks, another big draft pick for. this show was Jets Jake not getting who. he wanted the Jets to take because he. knows exactly who should have been taken. at number two? >> Dude, David Bailey is a [ __ ] dog. You. cannot possibly be upset at them getting. David Bailey. The dude is a [ __ ] game. changer. >> Jake before they picked said, "Don't. mess it up Jets." with a picture of a. handwritten sticky note. Arvell Reese no. matter what. I mean, he put in the time.

to really study who they should pick. >> I mean, listen Arvell Reese Glenville. High School up there in Northeast Ohio. up in Cleveland. >> It's a Glenville guy. >> Oh, yeah. Went to Went to. Went to Glenville Ohio State to the to. the to the NFL as we know it for a lot. of guys. That's almost. a powerhouse up there in Cleveland in. terms of getting guys to Yeah, getting. guys to Ohio State or getting guys to. the big big 10 and into the NFL. >> Yep. >> So, I'm I'm excited for you know, just. to see Arvell Reese, you know, play some.

football in the league, man. Fellow. Cleveland guy. But, I think David Bailey. was a pretty goddamn pretty goddamn good. pick. >> Nothing will bring me greater joy than. when David Bailey turns into like a. 10-year New York Jet. Like multiple Pro. Bowls and is like Yeah. I just can't. wait for Jake to have to eat that entire. sticky note. Sorry, love you Jake. All. right, last thing shout out to lineman. Caleb Lomu drafted in flip flops and. jorts. This is a big green flag for offensive. lineman wearing jorts and flip flops.

>> With a quarter zip? >> I mean, I'm fine with a quarter zip. Quarter zip's nice and comfy. >> I got to those are nice jeans. So nice. >> Yeah, they're not cutoffs. Definitely. better It's a bigger green flag if you. cut off those jean shorts yourself. Those are bought jorts. Bought jorts? Not made jorts. >> Well, maybe he's not as good with. scissors. >> Either way, I did love the internet. falling in love with him dancing. Did. you see these dance moves from my from. my guy Caleb?

>> I did. I did see them. But, I'll see. them again. Come on, put them up there. >> Very similar Lane Johnson's got some. similar moves I've seen him pull in the. locker room. I think it's a You got good. hips, fluidity, smooth. To beat to move. like this, you know, you got to be kind. of athletic. You can't just be pulling. that out if you're big stiffy. >> No, listen, if you're. Hey, hey. >> I think this is a major green flag. I. really do. Good hips, rhythm, loose, confident. Come on now.

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That alone will be the most electric. episode we've ever done. >> So, what about this one? Do you remember. THIS ONE? >> HOLY [ __ ] HOW DID YOU LEARN TO JUMP so. high? >> What were you thinking? What were you. thinking when you did that? >> When you jumped over Timothy Mozgov, was. that planned or how did you feel about. that? >> Like I told you that I'm trying to dunk. for the first time in my life, right? I. told you this, right? >> Oh, yeah, that's right. How's it going? >> Well, I tore my quad. >> Oh, so not good. >> No. I was going to say, he's. Yeah, go ahead, Jason. Tell them how you.

tore your quad. >> All right. So, I've been doing this type. of training where apparently you like. you lift heavy and then you do like. explosive jumping afterwards. It's. supposed to make you jump higher. If. you're not born naturally with it, right? So, I was doing heavy quarter. squats. >> born naturally. >> supplemented with jumping on top of a. box. So, um. I had. well, I did seven plates the week before. and I was doing quarter squats of that. and then jumping up on the box. And it. was working. My initial height of. jumping.

My initial height of jumping like. running and jumping My initial height of. running and jumping was like 10 6. Like. it was an embarrassing start. I was up. over 10 10. So, I was like high enough. to get there, I feel like. So, I just. wanted like that to come them all. No, see I got a little [ __ ] chance. I can't. >> You got those little You got those. little baby. >> So, I um. So, I tried to get just one more inch,

hopefully. And I go back in there and. I'm squatting again in the sec. the week after that, I tore my quad. doing the quarter squat. And had to sit. it down. But, I'm getting ready to start. it again. Do Do you have any Like how. did you learn to jump so high? What were. the What are the techniques that you. implemented to jump over human beings? >> I got to be honest, man. Having a BLACK. DAD HELPS. I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, MY MOM MY MOM, YOU. KNOW, God bless her.

>> much to the table. >> More of a more of a runner, you know, long distance. >> Uh. >> The cardio Yeah, I mean, that that that. helps for sure. I uh I don't I got to say the quarter. squat box jump combo wasn't really in my. uh WASN'T IN MY. >> YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO RESORT TO THAT? >> YEAH. >> I've been doing this thing called the. penultimate step. Have you ever heard of. the penultimate step? All right, I'm going to stop talking.

I'm just going to do your intro. All. right, HERE WE GO. NAH, MAN. I JUST JUMPED. >> THAT THAT FELT LIKE THAT was the intro. right there. >> All right. ALL RIGHT. OUR GUEST TODAY IS THE 6'9" FORWARD FROM. THE UNIVERSITY of Oklahoma. HE WAS THE. NUMBER ONE PICK IN THE 2009 NBA DRAFT, THE 2011 ROOKIE OF THE YEAR, 2011 SLAM. DUNK CONTEST CHAMPION, SIX-TIME NBA. ALL-STAR, FIVE-TIME ALL-NBA. HE MADE HIS. BROADCASTING DEBUT THIS NBA SEASON AS A.

STUDIO PANELIST ON AMAZON PRIME. 92%. PLEASE WELCOME PERHAPS THE GREATEST. DUNKER OF ALL TIME, BLAKE GRIFFIN. >> I'M HYPED UP RIGHT NOW. >> YEAH, BABY. I am sweating. I am sweating. from that intro. >> He usually blows a gasket. >> Well, yeah, blows a blood vessel in your. eye. >> Appreciate you jumping on the show, man. How's uh how's broadcasting going, dog? You guys are in the heat of the [ __ ]. playoffs right now. Get the full year. under your belt. How have you been enjoying Amazon? >> It's been awesome, man. I I I I figured.

I was going to enjoy it just because I. mean, obviously we love the sport we. play. Um but I I enjoy it so much more and and. part of that is just like, dude, I get. to sit in a room and watch the games. with Dirk Nowitzki, Steve Nash, Udonis. Haslem. Taylor Rooks is our host and. she's awesome. So, it's like we just sit. there and we watch games and talk and. like that part's fun, but also trying to. usher in this new era of of sports media. and how people. view the game, especially in basketball. I think football they do such a good. job. But basketball, I think it needed.

sort of like a. education and like an uplifting. standpoint because obviously like you. guys know like it's not easy. Like we're. all we're all, you know, training extremely hard, trying to win, putting forth so much effort. And you. know, sometimes it comes down to these. little things. So, just trying to like. educate fans to to sort of see the game, I guess, through the way we see it has. been a. >> Well, Jason is very much one of those. people that think everybody in the NBA. is just out there running and jumping.

and chucking up threes. Um. >> I've never said that once. >> Not wrong. Not wrong. >> Let me ask you this. How has the game. changed? Cuz it does feel like the NBA. has changed from especially when we were. kids. It's continuing to evolve. It's. continuing to use more floor space. How have you seen it continue to change. now as an analyst from when you played? >> Well, for one, the pace has changed and. there's there's all these. advanced analytics that talk about pace, right? But pace is sort of a deceiving. uh stat because it's sort of just.

tracking, you know, how much you're. going up and down. But now with every. player being so skilled, like now. centers shoot threes, power forwards, everybody shoots threes. Everybody can. handle the ball to a certain extent. Now, some guys don't, but most teams and. most of the good teams, everybody is. such a dynamic player that the court is. even more spread out. So, now you're. seeing longer closeouts. You're seeing. guys be able to drive and kick and all. that stuff in the half court is. happening so much more. I also think. that a side note, like that's why we're. seeing a few more injuries. Like the.

pace is sure, it's similar to like the. '90s, but there is so much more movement. and so much more dynamic movement. >> Um you know, we've gotten to a place. with the game I think the game is in a. good place. It's just different than it. was. And a lot of that was, you know, Golden State coming in and and, you. know, Splash Brothers and all these. teams shooting threes. And I also have. this thing where it's like, you know, that was great for them. And they had. two of the best shooters of all time. >> Yeah. >> And now you're sort of watching, you. know, some of these these other teams, like teams that are sort of tanking or.

rebuilding and young, and they're. playing the same way and and it's like. it's glaring when you're taking 53s and. you're missing, you know, 42 of them. >> 50. [ __ ] threes. >> Make some adjustments. >> Is insane. Yeah. Insane for an entire. game. >> I mean, by the way, that's like it's. like normal now. Like teams that don't. even shoot the three well shoot high. 40s. So, yeah, it's it's it's wild. But it. like I, you know, I still I can always. find things that I really appreciate. about the game. And we we have some of. the best young players. We sort of have. this like weird.

moment right now where it's a great. moment of like we still have the. LeBrons, the KD's, the Stephs, like all. these guys that we've known for years, but we also have these young guys who. are. [ __ ] incredible. And they are like. ushering in this new era of superstars. So, I to me the game's in such a good. place. Um and I I'm I'm excited about. it. >> Give me a quick three of these young. guys. Who Who do you think is really. going to be taking over this league or. who are your three favorite or a couple. of them right now? >> I mean, Wemby is like I like if you guys.

>> It's insane, dude. He's an alien. Can't. tell me he's not an alien. >> If you haven't had a chance to see him. play in person, I got to see him in. person for the first time. Like his. follow-through on a free throw is like. nine nine 10. You know, they're like. like. so think about when he jumps and when he. fades away, you're not blocking it. And. then defensively, it's fun to watch him. play defense. And we don't really say. that often about guys. So, he's like the. obvious like outlier of just like a. complete freak of nature, but also so. dedicated to the game. Shai's obviously.

just. >> That's crazy, man. >> Um will win another MVP, in my opinion. And and they're the best team in. basketball. Um another guy that I love watching play. is Cade Cunningham. >> Nice. >> Yeah. He's like I think he's so good. I. mean, he's so under control. >> He finally took off this year. Had. Detroit number one in the East. >> Yeah. So, like I said, game's in a good. place. And that's just That's just three. of the the few young guys that are. really good. >> Are there guys in the league that you. were you watch play and just like, man, if I just had one [ __ ] dribble, I'd. [ __ ] go up and put him in his place. and just stuff him in the [ __ ] rim.

>> I'd rather every day. >> Um, yeah. I mean, you know, it's like I. don't know. It's hard to I'm sure Jason, I'm sure you like, you know, you It's. hard to not to watch games and think. like, oh man, like certain moments, especially end of games, big plays, like. big moments. Like it it's That's the one. thing that I feel like I do miss that. you you you never really get back. But. also like and I gave everything I had to. my career and I'm I'm happy with what. I'm doing now and it's it's fun to fun.

to be on this side. But yeah, I'd for. sure challenge challenge a lot of those. guys. I'd try. It might not go well, but I'd. try. >> Well, we got to ask you as two. Clevelanders, what do you think of the. Cavs? What are we going to do in the. playoffs? >> Toronto Toronto just tied it up. [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> I know. We'll see. So, the biggest thing. was like, man, like physicality in the. playoffs over the last couple years has. sort of been the thing that they they. didn't they didn't match well. Um, in. the first two games against Toronto, you're like, man, this team looks pretty.

good. You know, they're playing free. Um, I think they're so talented. Donovan. Mitchell is unbelievable. We know what. James Harden is. I think they just need. to get some of that like you know what? Like let's go out and let's play defense. aggressively as we possibly can. Take. the Oklahoma City model of like they. just foul the [ __ ] out of people and. they go to look at the refs like, I dare. you to call everyone. You can't. >> was That's kind of the Belichick way in. the NFL. Make them call it in the. playoffs. >> You know what I mean? And and the the. game just changes in the playoffs. So, I. I I love their team. I I like especially.

with if Orlando gets past Detroit, like. that's their match up in the second. round and Orlando's sort of up and down. and they match up well lengthwise. So, I think they've got a chance. Um. you just need to see them play like a. really a much more physical brand of. basketball, I think in my opinion. >> Come on, baby. Come on, Mobley. Come on, baby. Start throwing those [ __ ]. elbows in the [ __ ] paint, man. >> Mobley was the guy that like I realized. like I should probably retire when I was. like lined up next to him. It is just a freak. He's a 6'11" like I.

couldn't get around him. I was like, you. know what? >> Is there an art with like the fouls to. like one not get called, but two just. really get in the other person's head, especially if they're like a shooter. Like what do you do to like take a team. out of three-point shooting by getting. maybe their best players rattled? >> Yeah, I think it's like very player. dependent. Um. like some guys don't like contact. Some. guys do like contact. The guys that.

don't like contact, it's about like from. the tip like making sure you get a hand. on or they feel you at every moment, you. know, like really like making them. realize, "Hey, it's going to you're. going to be in for a long night." Like. physically I'm going to like I'm going. to I'm going to rough you up a little. bit for uh team-wise, taking away the. three is so hard cuz like we just talked. about the court so spread out. I think. that's what Detroit's running into right. now is. you know, they don't have a lot of great. three-point shooting and on top of that. they're not shooting the ball well from. three. And so that court just shrinks,

you know, so they're packing the paint. So now you're not getting inside as. easily and the whole game changes. So, uh defensively like to me physicality in. the playoffs is what really like sets. team apart. Like Oklahoma City like I. just mentioned like they are they're on. you at every moment of the game. And. >> Yeah. >> you know, I I I say they foul. They I I. wouldn't say they just play so physical. that they're sort of setting the the the. team that hits first and sets the you. know the the physicality level, like.

that's the team that sort of dictates. the game in my opinion, especially. >> Similar similar in the NFL, man. If you. come out and you [ __ ] set the tone. early, man, that. that'll that'll put a team in a in a. tough position. >> Yeah, is that like a thing you guys. would like to talk or think about is. like hey like. what you know whether you even if you're. starting offensively like you you're. like hey like we just want to make our. presence felt first first drive. >> First play, we're going to come out and. 13% we're coming out with tight three. tight ends and we're going to run dive. right at them. And we're going to set.

this tone. We're coming right down the. middle. It would also be also telling. what the coaches thought of the game cuz. they'll be like hey second play we're. going to start with a trick play. And so. okay, you don't believe we can MATCH. THEM PHYSICALLY. WE'RE GOING STRAIGHT TO. THE TRICK PLAY. YOU GOT IT, COACH. WE'RE GOING FLEA FLICKER. THEY'LL NEVER. WE GOT TO sneak one off the top of these. boys. >> He didn't really believe in his like A. BODY DID. BUT OKAY, SO LIKE let me ask you a. question like you'd come out like say. you get hit in the mouth first, how hard. is it to change that through the course.

of the game? >> Um. I mean again that probably it's depends. on who it is. Like some guys the. physicality affects them more and some. positions it affects them more, right? Like quarterback. if you get rattled some of those guys. can respond from it and some of those. guys just the rest of the game are. thinking about it and it makes them a. tick off in their timing or. gets them off their spot. They start. setting up deeper which messes all sorts. of other things up. Uh for me personally, I don't know like.

if I got hit early, I would just be like. man next time that happens I'm going to. make sure I [ __ ] don't get molly. whopped. You know what I mean? Like I'm. going to learn my lesson there. I'm. going to go down with my head down and. get a 15 yard penalty but I'm not. letting that happen again. >> Great great use of great use of great. use of molly whopped right there. >> No, I I kind of I kind of need that. first hit. I like that first hit to. happen early for me. >> It does kind of snap you into it. >> It like kind of gets the juices flowing, activates some things, gets your gets.

your mind into it, and then from there. it's just kind of like you know, the. armor is set and you're ready to [ __ ]. roll. But, I kind of like getting. involved early so I get that catch and. try and you know, impose my will or or. set the tone uh with the first down or. something like that, get up and start. hooting and hollering and get guys. pissed off on the other side of the. ball, yeah. >> Oh, that's the best when you know you've. got a team pissed off, it's the best. >> Dude, so you used to play football? What. what position? You got to tell what what. age did you uh stop playing? >> I stopped my sophomore year. Um I was just like playing too much.

basketball, but I was like a I was a. wide receiver and like a safety. I was. like I didn't really like fill out until. like after my sophomore year. >> You were a safety? >> Were you 6'9" and as a sophomore? How. tall were you? >> No, no. I was like sophomore year I was. probably only like 6' or freshman year I. was probably like 6'5", 6'4". But, I. could I was dude, I was so skinny. I I. could not put on weight. So, it was like. I couldn't play defensive end. I. couldn't, you know. And Oklahoma. football is like they it's they took it. serious.

I was just like they're like just go out. there and like, you know, just patrol. around and any jump ball just try to go. get it. >> Right on, man. Did you ever do the. Oklahoma drill? >> Oh, yeah, DUDE. >> LET'S GO. >> MY EIGHTH GRADE year is the first year I. played tackle. I did the Oklahoma drill. and I made the mistake of like, all. right, I'm really going to kind of like. you said, I'm going to keep my head down. and just got hit on the top of the head. like stinger all down my. >> Oh, the old whack-a-mole. Oh, man, that's the worst. Yeah, that's the. >> The last play of my high school career.

in the playoffs and. caught a pass across the middle, maybe. 10 yards. Same play, caught another pass. across the middle 10 yards. We go back. to it and this linebacker who was signed. to like Tulsa or something, you know, small school in Oklahoma, just. absolutely levels me. And all I remember. is just like staring up into the night. sky trying to catch my breath and I see. him over me and he just does the. gets a penalty and I was like, "You know. what? I mean this is I think we're good.

We're playing basketball maybe.". >> Well, this is pertinent cuz we used to. ask basketball guys this wasn't in the. rundown, but do you think you could have. played in the NFL? >> I mean I would have had to like really. dedicate time to it. I mean you never. know. I mean there's so many guys that. are like later bloomers. Like. I think like when it comes to like this. like whole debate I think it's very. interesting cuz everybody thinks they. can do everything else. Um. but it's just like I like. I don't think people realize like I've. learned this from like talking to like,

you know, Whitworth or like Ryan Kalil. who you guys know and it's like. listening to them talk about the game of. football and like all the nuances and. all the things that they have to think. about and do, it really like lets you. know that like. we all we all don't know what we're. talking about. You think we can all do. these things cuz you watch these guys do. it and you're like, well. not that it looks easy, but you do it so. well that you think like, oh I could do. that. But you also you're not thinking. about all the variables and all these. other things that are going into it and.

like you just don't know until you've. been put in that situation. Like I mean. I have I've had teammates who can't. remember the play out of the timeout. >> Oh no. Oh no. What are we. >> How can we how can we expect somebody to. go out and like be in a two-minute drill. and like remember all this when like we. can't remember one play? >> Just so you know, there's some guys that. we've played with that aren't very good. out the timeout either. Like that's not. exclusive to basketball. >> There was there was a player not too. long ago who was in his later years. I'm.

not going to say who it was, but would. literally leave the huddle on the. biggest play of the game and ask me what. he had. And I was just like, what? >> God damn it. >> Oh, the matter time. Yeah, it's tough. Like, hey hey, where am I supposed to. be? >> And then I secretly tell him to do. something so that I get open. IT'S THE. BEST. >> SO. ALL RIGHT, HERE. CLEAR IT OUT FOR ME. >> WHO DO YOU HAVE winning it all in the. playoffs this year? Or the NBA.

championship, I should say. >> I mean, Oklahoma City is the best team, like barring like an injury. I mean, they're they're there's a little bit. banged up right now, but they look. fantastic. I I The East is super. interesting to me cuz Boston was. supposed to be This was supposed to be. like a down down year, you know, like. with all the injuries, they traded guys. away, it was Jason Tatum was out, and. then Jaylen Brown just had a monster. year. They had guys step up, and Brad. Stevens literally couple hours ago won. executive of the year. I mean, he they. just put this team together so well. Joe. Mazzulla is a great coach. Jason Tatum's.

now back. And so to me now, after. watching how, you know, Cleveland looks, Detroit looks, and the Knicks look, like. I'm like, man, Boston Boston, in my. opinion right now, is the team that's. going to match up with with Oklahoma. City in the finals, but Oklahoma City. healthy, man, I I like that's tough. They're they're they're a good team. >> Being from Cleveland, I'll still hope. that they find a way to get physical on. the defensive side. COME ON, CAVS! >> You heard him, Blake. Just get physical. >> Just listen to Blake. Come on. Don't. listen to your coach. Listen to Blake.

Go watch Lance Stephenson clips from. when he was with the Was it Pacers? Do. you remember that when he was doing. that? >> Whispering in [ __ ] LEBRON'S EAR? >> THAT'S NOT THE physicality that we're. talking about, Jason. >> That's not what That's not what Blake is. talking about. >> That's the opposite of what I'M TALKING. ABOUT. >> WELL, BLAKE, you and your brother got. drafted in the same year. >> How about that? >> How often do you remind him that you. were the first overall pick, and he was. 48? >> Oh, man. You know what? I uh.

pretty much every day. No, that was like dude, that was like. talk about like a dream come true. I. mean, obviously you guys both got to. play the same time, but like, man, like. draft night, like it was like a little. stressful cuz it was like, you know, I I. was fortunate enough to go one, and then. we were kind of waiting around, and then. when it happened, it was just like, this. is the best night ever. You know, family, friends there, and like um you. know, to to like do that thing that. you've been watching on TV for so long, and being like, I one day hope to do it,

to do it with your brother the same year. was was pretty cool. >> And your uh your brother's doing in the. financial world now, right? >> Yeah, he's uh he started when he. retired, like my brother my my brother. was always like straight-A student, perfect kid, great basketball player. >> Yeah. Yeah. So annoying. >> I was always Taylor's brother growing. up. It was like, oh, there's Taylor's. brother, and it was just like, hey. But yeah, so when he retired, like I was. like, man, nobody better to like sort of. have in my corner to like help me out.

And And like, I didn't even like as a. man, but he started sort of managing my. investment stuff, you know, it was kind. of like spread out all over the place, and he put his head down, and went. around and met with a bunch of people, and and really figured out that space. really well. I went to work for a PE. company, and and now we have a a VC fund. that we run, and it's a blast. I mean, it's still to this day being able to. like, you know, like you guys, being. able to like still do stuff together um. is like this the best. >> I was always I was always little Kells. It was like, yeah, there's little Kells,

but he's pretty good at sports, but he. can't read or write, so who knows? WHO KNOWS? WE STILL HAVEN'T SEEN HIM. PLAY IN A game yet. >> Good kid. Good kid though. Good kid. though. >> Yeah, but look at you now, dude. You You. can read now. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> So you audio. Yeah. >> That's why Jason does the intros. >> I did hit that one on the head. Half the. time I can't even pronounce the name of. the people we have on here. >> Your dad coached you guys in high High.

>> Yeah, man. >> You guys had to have won state. >> We did. I won four, and my brother won. two. Um. and it was uh we played in like a little. bit lower division, but man, my my dad. was like a. like a legendary high school basketball. coach. He's coached for 40 plus years. and like I don't know, 15 state. championships, something like that, and. just. >> He must have played, right? >> Yeah, he played he played like. basketball and football in college, like. low like a small college. Um and then. when he coached football and basketball. Um and then he only coached basketball I.

think like when I was young, I think. maybe like eight or nine, he kind of. stopped coaching football and just was. like all basketball. >> Yeah, these boys going to the NBA. Waste my time with that pigskin. >> He had a vision. >> Uh yeah, it was awesome though. He was. uh it was it was really cool. And also. like dude, like you know, I like he. pushed me harder than maybe another. coach would have cuz he knew exactly how. to make me make me work, you know, and. and. um I was like, you know, sounds like I. was a little bit more like Travis, just. a little bit little scattered.

>> Getting in trouble a little bit too. much, you know? >> growth spurt, everybody saw the. potential. >> Yeah, exactly. Like, "Oh, okay, now. Okay, now we'll give this kid a chance.". >> Wow, he's powerful. He He just jumped to. top the top of the backboard. That's. amazing. >> All those quarter squats, man. >> That's right. >> Dude, when you came on the scene at OU, holy [ __ ] [ __ ] Did you know that you. were just going to [ __ ] take it over. like that? Like I I don't I don't know. how to explain it. We were watching it. from the [ __ ] like like Cincinnati.

and Cleveland, and you [ __ ] were. dunking on everybody, going coast to. coast, [ __ ] just the most athletic, powerful. Did you know Did you know you. like were going to take over the [ __ ]. college basketball world like that? >> No, dude. I mean, my my freshman year I. had like a solid freshman year, and and. I like there was some moments my. freshman year I was like, "Okay, like I. I can do this. Like I feel like you. know, I'm I'm I'm I'm getting a little. bit of buzz here, but. decided to come back didn't enter the.

draft after my freshman year decided to. come back and dude I went away my. brother and I went and and worked out. with this we found this trainer in San. Francisco. This guy is like nuts and we. went for two straight months had no. money, you know, in college and we. worked out for two straight months. It. was like six days a week. We're like. running sand hills and he's like. unconventional training. We do. basketball in the morning work out in. the afternoon go back and do basketball. and that's when when I came back to. campus for like summer workouts. It was. like a. a very clear difference and like it was.

big for me cuz it was like I I I. realized, you know, the value of hard. work and I always felt like I worked. hard, but like I really like put in. put in a lot of time and that's sort of. when I made that like jump and then my. my sophomore year was kind of when I. sort of broke out like on a on a. national scale, but. man college was so fun. I I I loved. every every minute of it. >> Was it always Oklahoma? >> It actually wasn't. I So my brother. committed and played there his freshman. year. and then they got a new coach Kelvin.

Sampson left. There was like some. recruiting violations. They got in this. new coach and I honestly like dude I. loved Kansas. I loved Florida. Um. thought about going to play with our boy. Um cuz you know, I. yeah I had known I had known CP for for. years, you know, playing AAU and stuff. And then I had like Duke and North. Carolina on my list, but it was that was. kind of like just like a. it felt like it was like a just a. lifelong dream of like Duke and North. Carolina. But I wanted to go to a place. where like hey my brother was there, you. know, it was close to home. My parents.

could come watch us play and then also. just like wanted to go to a place where. you felt like the. they really believed in you and you were. going to be the guy and you were going. to get the opportunity. And I'm so glad I did. Like that's. always kind of my advice to like younger. guys. It's like you can't fall for. everything these coaches are telling you. cuz like you know, their job is on the. line every year just you know, just like. everybody else. So. go to a place that you really. you know, appreciated Um which is crazy. cuz it's the complete opposite now with. NIL. >> Dude, I was about to say you can go yeah.

and you can get to the league from just. about anywhere and that's any league. that is. You know what I mean? That with. the film is out there and sometimes all. you need is that step in the door, man. But. yeah, it's it's it's way different. especially over there in Oklahoma where. you guys got an actual like. booster money. >> Yeah, they yeah, football players were. eating good. >> O-line was heavy. Very relatable obviously with Travis and. I going to Cincinnati but and that was. similar to us is like I played for three. different head coaches. So, that was the.

model back then was like you got to fall. in love with the university and like. where you're at as opposed to that cuz. that could change. I mean, on average. coaches were getting fired or taking. promotions within 3 years especially at. the smaller schools. Like it was going. to be quick turnover. But yeah, NIL's. changed all of it. Where do you Where do. you stand on NIL? You Are you pro NIL? >> I'm somewhere in between because what. we've done is effectively like created a. pro sports model without the things that. keep professional sports on the rails. You know, like and and it you know, I. sure it's hard to like unionize like all.

those college athletes and so to me what. it should be is like. football, basketball, men's and women's. basketball and football are usually the. the money earners at schools and like so. those. those sports like there should be a. union. There should be a collective. bargaining agreement. There should be a. salary cap but we have to sort of rein. in the transfer thing. I get it like. people you shouldn't be stuck at a. school but you can I mean, some guys are. on their fifth school and five years. >> Yeah, there should be a commitment like.

a like a one, two, three-year deal. Like. there should be something from the. player that's like, "Hey, I'm bought. into this relationship as well.". >> I mean, you you said it. Like you you. you you have to fall in love with the. university. Like I I loved going to the. University of Oklahoma and I'm not. saying like it's it's wrong now because. kids are doing what they should be. doing. Like go get as much money as. possible and you know, do whatever you. can do. >> here, go to the school that'll pay you. to be the starter. >> Yeah, I there's no no blame for me on the on. the on the stu- the athlete's side. I. just think there needs to be parameters.

Um. just because you know, and also the. something that's not talked about really. is like all the other some of the other. sports are being affected by this as. well cuz they're like some some schools. are cutting some of these non-revenue. sports. >> Oh [ __ ] no way. >> It's messing up the whole ecosystem and. like dude, I mean you look at like we're. always so good at the Olympics because. every college you have so many different. avenues to go wrestle, to go to go do. whatever sport it is you do and and if. if if other sports are affected by this.

NIL and the big money making sports, then I I don't think that's okay, too. I. think everybody if if we're going to pay. student athletes, everybody should get. some. I'm not saying everybody should. get the exact same amount, but everybody. should get some and then there should. also be all the other sports should be. taken care of as well. >> So, how much did you get under the TABLE. AT OKLAHOMA? >> DUDE, I WAS GETTING GIFT CARDS. >> OH, SWEET. APPLEBEE'S, hell yeah. >> Those appetizers at Applebee's are going.

down easy, boys. >> Real Midwestern deep cut. >> Yeah, no doubt. >> This is luxury LongHorn Steakhouse, no. way. >> Dude, the bread rolls at LongHorn. Steakhouse. >> to St. Joe, Missouri every [ __ ] year, dude, and it is like the classiest. establishment in St. Joe. They're going. to [ __ ] kill me for saying that, but. it is it is literally one of the big I'm. only there for like 3 weeks and it's. right next to campus, so we go there. whenever we want to like get the team. together. I [ __ ] pig out. I I we they.

just bring the rolls out the entire. time. Like it doesn't just start in the. beginning. It's just like as they as. they come out of the oven just like. yeah, just bring those things on over. here. >> It's the best. Especially dude, especially like these college towns, too. Like you go you go eat like a king. >> Dude, we had a Lane Johnson early. when he got there. He was I forget if. it's LongHorn or Outback cuz I always. just associate them as like pretty much. the same restaurant in my head. >> Yeah. >> But one's got rolls and the other one's. got blooming onions. >> Either way, he's like, "Dude, you got to. get get the chicken fingers." And I'm.

like, "Dude, bro, you want me to go get. the chicken fingers?" He's like, "Just. trust me.". And I was like, "How much have you eaten. of like LongHorn. >> Is that true? You took the Clippers to the chicken. fingers, huh? >> He's like, "Where you gotten to that. part of the menu that you're just. getting chicken fingers?" So we went and. I got the chicken fingers and he was. right. The chicken fingers WERE. ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. BLAKE, YOU'RE DRAFTED NUMBER ONE OVERALL. TO CLIPPERS. What was it like going to. the NBA being the number one overall. draft pick? >> I mean, truly like, you know, obviously.

like a dream come true, but also like I. I don't know if people remember, but. like the Clippers was like it was. >> put the clip yeah. You took the Clippers. up there. >> They had the number one pick for a. reason. >> Yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, exactly. And like dude, I remember. like I think it was Bill Simmons wrote. like an article like saying like it was. like an open letter to Tommy Griffin, my. dad. It was like, "Don't let the. Clippers draft you or something." Like. you know, like. dude, you know what I mean? Like because. they had had they were famously had had. like three number one picks that none of. them panned out. And so there was there.

was like a lot of unknown and it was. like a little. a little bit daunting, but I kind of. like it was sort of you know, it helped. like the fact that I went to Oklahoma. cuz it wasn't like at the time it wasn't. really a program that like. you know, it wasn't like a top 25. consistently year after year and and the. whole conversation I had with my coach. Jeff Capel there was like. you you want to be a part of building. something. You know what I mean? It. means a lot to to to do that and. so I sort of had that experience in. college and I kind of went in the NBA.

sort of with the same mindset of like. hey, like you know, let's try to turn. this around. And like I I don't think I. realized the history of the Clippers at. the time, but um you know, we got we got. lucky. You know, we we had some great. young players and Chris Paul came and. that team, you know, started running and. and I think that's one of the things. that we're like very proud of to this. day is like. you know, the Clippers still have their. faults, but like they're not looked at. in the same light, you know, and and we. felt like we were sort of like part of. that team that sort of tried to change.

that that that you know, that mindset of. the Clippers. >> When it was you, CP, DeAndre Jordan, [ __ ] dunking on everybody, every. [ __ ] game was a highlight reel. Like. that [ __ ] that [ __ ] made everybody. Clipper fans, man, and it it definitely. boosted the stock and I and then you get. Steve Ballmer creating a new stadium for. them. Like you could definitely tell. that it started when you guys were were. rocking and rolling and and uh and in. the hunt for it, man. Do you think you.

got treated differently by guys playing. against you because you're a number one. pick? Like do you think. like a mark on you to be like, "Hey, I'm. going to show what this guy what it the. NBA's like or. >> I think a little bit, but you know, like. it is like, you know, the the term like. brotherhood gets thrown around a lot and. and like you. I I think when we came in it was like a. little bit different. Like guys were. especially on the Clippers like the. Clippers was kind of like a place that. like guys went to at the end of their. careers, who couldn't get a contract. somewhere else and like they were just. trying to make it. And so I didn't feel.

like it was like a an environment where. I was really like. you know, being like guys taking you. under their wing and showing you the. way. It was guys trying to extend their. careers and keep playing and um and then. that changed, you know, when Chris Paul. came and then we had some great vets, you know, Chauncey Billups, Grant Hill, like we had Lamar Odom who was like just. this one of my favorite teammates, Jamal. Crawford. So we we we sort of had that. later on, but yeah, I mean you. definitely I think you have a target on. your back as like the number one pick. Um. but like I also had like a chip on my.

shoulder cuz I had to sit out my whole. first year. You know, like my my first. year I was hurt and like I dude, I had. to hear for an entire year I had to hear. about how the Clippers messed up another. draft pick and like this guy was going. to be a bust and like you know, I'm just. sitting there like just steaming just. ready to you know, so ready to like play. that like when I finally did, you know, that next year I was just like was like, you know, no mercy. Just try to go dunk. everything and try to just like play as. hard as you can. >> Then you came in and you went straight. to the All-Star game.

Um. which is [ __ ]. that's that's the Blake Griffin we all. know. Was that the year that you you. jumped into the dunk contest, too? >> Yeah. Yeah, that was my rookie year. So. like I mean I sat out my whole first. year, so that wasn't my rookie year. So. the next one I came back that was my. rookie year and then. yeah, I was like got lucky, man. I made. the All-Star game and and got to do the. dunk contest and. checked off some box. >> Everybody looks at the dunk contest like. it just isn't what it was because it's. you don't have the huge names that you.

typically saw at least we saw growing up. the superstars of the league. So did you. feel that like had that always been a. dream of yours or did you feel like you. kind of owed that to the to the game or. >> Yeah, I mean both. I definitely like I. mean I I dude, I would like I would. record Vince Carter's dunk contest. I recorded him. Dude, I mean. that was like my childhood and that was. like peak, you know, like watching like. tapes of like Michael Jordan doing the. dunk dunk contest and all these big. names like it was like, yeah, I want to. do that. Um but also like yeah, I do.

think that like there's a the reason why. the dunk contest kind of is what it is. is like guys just don't want to do it. anymore. And which is kind of a shame. because it's like I don't know. It's. like have we built it up too much where. guys don't want to go do it and fail or. like. you know, for me like to be in the 6'10". like 260 like dunk contests really. aren't like my specialty. Like just. dunking in game is more like my thing. Um big guys like Dwight Dwight did it. three years, I think. And like that was. awesome. I thought that was great.

because like it's a big guy who again. like not really his specialty. Um, but. like we just need guys to do it. I like. we need the young guys to do it. We need. the Anthony Edwards, the Zions, we need. all those guys. >> Come on, Ant. Come on, Ant. Just go up. there and just [ __ ]. You don't got to do a whole 360 windmill. between the legs. Like just go in there. and just [ __ ]. >> Just do something. You know what I mean? Like that Dude, the the the Aaron Gordon. Zach Levine dunk contest was incredible. It was one of the best dunk contests. ever. And since then it just we haven't.

really had like the. you know, the names or like the. But I think that's what it is. Like I. think it, you know, I I say this is like. somebody who brought in a a car as a. prop. You know, So, I don't know. I I I hope it gets. back. >> Let's give. a fan out of the stands the ability to. try and block the dunk. So that we can. just get posterized.

like images. I don't [ __ ] know. Yeah. >> Is this year is this year like is this. you trying to like get on the court? >> I want to be able to block. I want to. see if I can block a dunk. Yeah. >> Just slam balls out. >> Like I've been training guys. I've been doing my quarter squats. I. feel like it might happen. Put a force. like uh. uh scale. So like see who can dunk the. hardest. Like who can apply the most. pounds per force to the rim? Yes. Who can shatter their skin on their.

fingers hardest? >> Yeah, we got to we got to do something. So, I don't know. I appreciate I. appreciate you throwing out these. options, Jason. >> We want to educate our fans on. basketball history. Big moments in the. NBA. Can you explain the significance of. this photo of a chair? >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Remember it like it was yesterday. Uh. high-level real quick, DeAndre Jordan is. with us for years. Dallas tries to sign.

him away. Our boy CP was on Dallas at. the time, was part of the recruiting. process. They got DJ to to commit. Um. and then so. DeAndre. was like he had texted me. So, he he he. commits to them on like a Saturday call. He texts me on Sunday and he's like. "What what you think?" And I'm like, "What do you mean what I think?" Like I. I I'd already told him like, "Yo, I'm. happy for you, you know, you got to do. what you got to do." And. um. he's I can tell he's having second. thoughts. And so, I get a phone call. from Doc Rivers, our coach, and like.

"Hey, I think we can get DJ back, but I. need you to get on a plane and go to. Houston where DeAndre's off-season house. was." And so, I'm like, "All right." So, I'm texting DeAndre like, "Hey, I'm. coming in." Go to his house. Spend like that night, you know, staying. with him, making sure that like Mark. Cuban can't come back in and and and. convince him to to sign. And everybody comes in the next day, Doc. Rivers, JJ, Chris Paul, JJ Redick, Chris. Paul um and myself and we're all in his. house and we're like, you know, convincing him like, "Hey, like this is. the place. We want you here. Like we can.

do it.". And uh he's like, "All right, I'm in.". And you can't sign the contract to make. it official until like midnight that. night. >> Okay. >> So, 11:00 p.m. cuz we were central time. So, we're just sitting in his house and. NBA Twitter is going nuts. Just nuts. They're like there's all the rumors. flying around like, "What what's. happening? What's going on?" People were. saying that we held him hostage. So, I'm. like, "All right, well, if we're going. to be stuck here, I'm going to like I'm. going to start [ __ ] with people." So, you know, so, put the chair under the door, take a.

picture, send it out, and like it was. the most nuts day on NBA Twitter. >> Uh that's amazing. >> Dude, Lob I mean, nobody nobody wanted. Lob City to break up, man. You guys were. so [ __ ] electric. Um and I've heard. through through multiple sources. I. mean, Joe Dumars was just talk hyping. DeAndre up not too long ago talking. about the type of teammate he is and how. he's he's one of the most veteran like. leaders and it's not just in front of. the cameras. It's like he's just he's. just one of the best guys to have on on. your roster because of who he is and um.

I already know you guys had [ __ ]. unbelievable time, but can you speak a. little bit upon like what what is it. that DeAndre really brought to the team. in terms of that energy? >> Dude, he's like he I mean he you know, you see him now as like a vet and like. it's easier for vets to do that, but he. was that for us when he was, you know, second, third, fourth year in the. league. Like he's like a connector of. people. Um and not to mention he was just an. absolute freak athlete. Like he I. watched him like physically punk a lot. of centers and just like.

also never gets hurt. Like just like he. he's a he's a monster, but like off the. court he's just one of those people that. brings people together. You know what I. mean? He he keeps everything light. He. knows he has incredible like empathy and. uh EQ like his emotional awareness is. like off the charts where like he sees. somebody like. you know, not not maybe having their. best day or best game and he'll go put. his arm around them because he's built. that relationship with each guy on the. team. So I definitely I saw the Joe.

Dumars quote and I was it's so true. I. mean, he he's like and now at this point. of his career he's just pouring back. into other guys and and. being a mentor, but he was like he was. such an important piece for us even when. he was younger, you know, and and and in. the prime of his career. Um just the type of person he is. >> Love hearing that. >> were unstoppable on the court, but I. definitely was throwing [ __ ] lobs. left and right on 2K. >> God god. >> [ __ ] happy. >> Hey yo. >> Yeah, it was it was good it's good it's. we had a good run. Didn't didn't quite.

reach the mountain top, but uh yeah, it'll that'll that'll always haunt me. So thanks for bringing that up, guys. >> No, no, no, we're still positive here, man. It's all positive. >> Wait, but hold on. What is like what is. the football equivalent of Is it just. like trucking somebody like for a. touchdown? >> There's a few. So, getting mossed is. probably the closest equivalent, which. is like the receiver jumping up over a. DB to catch it, right? Um. another version. >> On the defensive side is just absolutely. lighting a [ __ ] up. I think.

that's just You can't You don't want to. get caught. You especially if you see. him coming. >> That's post. >> Yeah, it's one thing if you don't see it. coming. >> is that in film? How tough is that in film like the next. level? >> It's the. I mean, for me if I get lit up, it's. like, ah, you know, it's part of the. gig, you know, especially if they if it. happens to where I don't see it. >> Right. >> It happened in my first game, honestly. I talk about it all the time, but our. pilot was like [ __ ] back there like. trying to He was a veteran at that. point, so he was playing for Tennessee. and he was like trying to like fake.

whether he was in cover four, cover. three, playing in the middle field. And. he kind of just like at the last second. came like snuck down into the box. And. the last time I looked at him, I was. like, all right, cool, he's back. And. when I caught the ball, I tried to catch. it and like use my momentum to like get. up field. And he [ __ ] rocked me to the point. where like it's like. what the [ __ ] is going on? What the [ __ ]. is going on? Oh, [ __ ] I don't have the. ball anymore. And like I just grab on to. like the closest person to me to try and. save them from getting to the ball.

>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> And I watched that over like 10 times. crying laughing. Like, god damn, that's. a [ __ ] welcome to the NFL moment if. I've ever [ __ ]. >> Yeah, for sure. You got you you. definitely have to like You can't You. can't get salty about like getting. dunked on or get You got to like embrace. it. >> you can't be deleting your Twitter. You. just got to run with it, right? You just. got to go. >> Embrace it. >> We had a. >> Shut up the [ __ ]. >> The worst is when you have just an awful. play, but it's like a huge play that you. know they're just going to replay.

forever. Like Landon Dickerson's first. ever play in the NFL. Landon's an. unbelievable guard. He comes in at right. guard. He hadn't played it. It was his. first play in the NFL. Halfway through. the year cuz his knee was all [ __ ] up. from college. Eric Armstead just man. mountain Dean like bull rushes him and. throws him on his back and it was like. one of the biggest plays of the year. And so now like for the last 4 years. you're just every time they install that. concept they're going to that play and. Lane is just LIKE AH [ __ ].

>> YEAH, that's so tough. Like just an. iconic play that just won't go away. >> career. >> Yeah, it's like god dammit this one. again. >> Mine is every single time we play the. Chargers I get everybody hitting me up. on social media about when Derwin James. suplexed me at the goal line. Literally it was like it was like a dead. it was. it was a dead play. It was like Pat's. like [ __ ] scrambling back and forth. did he have this [ __ ] dialed up Randy. you sick son of a [ __ ]. >> You got to this very quickly.

>> I had already ran like three different. routes. OH NO. OH [ __ ]. EVEN WORSE THE BALL AS SOON AS I hit the. ground [ __ ] shoots up like a god damn. firecracker and I'm just like. I was like god dammit. Nobody likes to. talk about how I made two guys miss on. that play. Yeah, let alone Derwin's just [ __ ]. strong guy man. Strong guy. >> He's strong. He's a strong guy. I don't. know. >> There's a moment where you're just.

you're on top of his shoulders and I'm. just like. [ __ ]. >> Oh no. >> Yeah. >> We'll see what happens. >> Looking down I'm just like just hold on. to it. >> Yeah. >> Just trying to trying to survey your. options and you have none. >> Can I put my can I lean on somebody. else? >> Can I throw? Who's open? Is anybody. open? >> Yeah. >> But like those plays those type of plays. always happen in such slow motion in. real life. >> 100%. >> like. it just replays in your mind over and. over and over again.

It's the worst. >> All right, we're here to we got to ask. you do not have to answer. We are going. to ask. Uh. who has the better squirrel tweet? Blake. or Travis? >> Blake, you got a squirrel tweet? >> Oh, yeah. >> I didn't know this either. I'm looking. forward to So, obviously everyone knows. on our show, Blake, I'm not sure if. you're aware. This is Travis's squirrel. tweet. I just gave a. squirrel a piece of bread and it. straight smashed all of it. Ha I had no. idea they ate bread like that.

>> The best part is the haha hashtag crazy. It's so good. By the way, that's like. that's like old Twitter was like that's. what it was. It was just people just. saying stuff like that. >> Guys, you won't believe what I You won't. believe what just happened. >> This was when Twitter was better. Let's. just all agree on that. We need to get back to this. >> Just so everyone knows, the 12,000. retweets and 300 comments. were like 30 years after this. Like that.

got absolutely no traction when I posted. that. I was like I was like going back to my. phone like looking at it like. still nobody. All right. Nobody wanted to. Nobody wanted to hit me back. Like. that's crazy, dude. No, no. >> All right, here's Blake's tweet. Accidentally hit a squirrel yesterday in. my car. Feel so guilty I could barely. sleep. Casey.

>> Yeah, I was I I'll never forget. I was. driving home from practice and I just I. like clipped its leg and I looked back. in the rearview mirror and I see it just. like struggling and I was just like, "No." Like. I felt so bad. And then yeah, I don't. know. For some reason, by the way, that. was Twitter at the time. I was like, "Yeah, I guess I'll tweet about this.". >> It's the best, man. >> I wish I put haha crazy, though. >> Always got to end it with a little. hashtag, man. What's a good hashtag for. this?

>> Crazy. I would have loved to see like your. workshop like you workshopping which. other ones you didn't use. >> Not a big vocabulary. >> nuts, LOL. >> THAT'S NUTS. >> THAT'S AMAZING. >> WE GOT TO ASK YOU SOME rapid-fire. standard NBA podcast questions. What's. your favorite Kobe story? >> Oh, man. That I like I got that I. like witnessed myself? >> Sure, yeah. Sure. Or or one that you.

heard of, either one's fine. >> Well, I'll give you like one that I like. would like really shows you how much of. like a just a competitor he is. We're. training camp for 2012 Olympics. We're. in Vegas. doing workouts and at the time like I. I'd I'd been fortunate enough to make. the team and I was kind of like one of. the younger guys and so they would. always have other younger guys come in. and scrimmage us. And so like Paul George was on the. younger team and Aaron Gordon and Kyrie. >> Kyrie was. >> And so we're we're we're scrimmaging. like day one and I'm like, man, like.

these guys are like kind of like they're. kind of frying Kobe. And I didn't like. course I didn't say anything. I was just. kind of like taking note of it and then. day two kind of same thing. I'm like he. he does not look good. I'm like is this. in my mind I'm like am I seeing the end. of like Kobe Bryant? Like is he can he. not do it anymore? So day three I'm down. in the weight room. at the hotel before we go over on the. buses for practice and I'm working out. and I see Kobe and his trainer and two. of his trainers and his security guard. walking like kind of through like the.

the. gym and like come and they're covered in. sweat. I'm like, man, he must have just. got in it. And I ask one of his. trainers, I'm like, you guys what you. guys do? You guys work out? And he goes. I'm like, what's up? And he goes, Kobe's. got us doing these like 60-mi bike rides. at like 2:00 a.m. And so I realized that he like he didn't. care about the practice at all. I mean. he he practiced hard. But he was going. he was waking his trainers up and they. would go for a 60-mile bike ride at 2:00.

a.m. in Vegas cuz it's the only time he. could do it cuz it's Vegas in the. summer. And then he would come in he would go to. the weight room and he would work out he. would go eat breakfast and then he would. come to practice. And I was like oh. that's why he doesn't look tired. >> Okay, that's why he looks a little. slower today. >> Everybody else is like in the club and. Kobe's like. working out. But like that that to me is. like just like the So guy was a it's an. absolute basketball sicko in the best. way. You know what I mean? Like did. things to like like he he would do.

workouts to. just gain like a mental edge. >> Feel more confident about what he's. doing. Yeah, it's crazy. >> I don't know. I just love that cuz like. man he was like. he was awesome. >> He was. >> RIP, man. >> Now that he's won a playoff game with. his son and we do hate asking this. question because it's stupid. Who But we. have to ask it. That's the You got to. ask. Who's the goat LeBron or MJ? >> Oh man. I mean that was a pretty cool. moment. I I'm such a like such an MJ.

guy. Like we all get judged as as. athletes we get judged on. winning. And I to me like there's there's no. basketball player that has won in a. better fashion in a more dominant. fashion than Michael Jordan. >> to argue. >> Like six times to the finals, six and oh. never went to a game seven, finals MVP. every year, like highest points per game. average in the playoffs. Like he has all. these things that like I'm just like in. terms of like a career like he won the. best and that's how we get judged.

LeBron has had like the best career from. top to bottom. He's still doing it. But. like. you know I think I think you go with the. way guys win. So I I I have Jordan one I. have LeBron two. But it like I think the. problem with this debate is like people. think that you're saying that one guy. sucks because you're picking the other. guy over the other guy. They're both the best of all time, but. you know, that's that's if I have to rank it, that's what that's what I that's how I. rank those things. >> Who's your all-time starting five?

>> Ooh, I can't wait to hear this one. >> Oh man, okay. Okay. Um let's go. Dude, I'm going to put I'm going to put. Steph at one, the one the point guard. >> Yeah, that makes sense. >> Get him out on the court. >> That should be out there. >> Uh yeah, yeah. Get put the ball in his hands. Let him. do what he does. Uh so, I'm going to go MJ at two. LeBron at the three, Tim Duncan at the. four. >> Tim Duncan? >> Tim Duncan is my favorite power forward.

of all I mean, he's the best power. forward of all time. >> The technician. >> Yeah, damn it. The bank is always open. Did you ever [ __ ] hit a bank shot. from like 20 ft out? Cuz that was like. his patent move. >> I tell you what, I tried. >> He made it look like it was easier. Like. you had a better percentage if you went. bank from anywhere on that angle, yeah. >> Big fundamental. I I that's my that's my. going to be my four, and then I'm going. to go I'm going to go Shaq, just the. most dominant player of all time at the. before.

>> Shaquille O'Neal. I mean, yeah, that's. you you can't argue with that [ __ ]. >> What's crazy is like I just had to like. leave Kobe off the list. >> That is crazy. >> If you're not doing it by like, okay, I. need a point guard and all this, like I. would just go Kobe, MJ, LeBron, and then. I would go Tim Duncan, you know, so. Um but I'm just you know, I like to mix. it up. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> you. >> Sorry, these I'm not really rapid-firing. these. I'm like giving a long drawn-out. explanation of everything. >> We'll cut it up. We'll cut it up. It'll. seem real fast. They'll be like, MAN, HE. HE WAS QUICK WITH THAT STARTING FIVE.

YOU'VE DONE STAND-UP BEFORE. Um is. comedy something that you want to pursue. more of? Do you want to full-time. be in the club? Like where are you at in. your stand up career? >> Be in the club? >> I want to be in the club every day. >> Um yeah, I don't know. I love stand up, man. It's um. it's like fascinating to me. It's It's. like a really fun challenge. I I just. love comedy, man. I I love it so much. and I'm working on a couple of things. Nothing I'm not really working on stand.

up right now, but I kind of always have. I keep like a a notes folder of jokes. So I'm like kind of always like writing. jokes if like I think of something. I. don't know what I'm going to do with it, but maybe someday it'd be pretty cool to. have like a a special. at one point. >> [ __ ] yes. >> I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. >> Is it Have you All right. So have you. just kind of like tested the waters in. the stand up world? >> Yeah, I've done like I went hosted this. show at this big comedy festival, I. think for the first time and then I've. done stuff here and there. I did like a.

roast to Comedy Central roast. Um which. is all like really fun, but I my thing. about stand up too is like I don't want. to go to like the Comedy Store and like. ask for time and then somebody gets. bumped like some guy who's like grinding. trying to make it. Like it's you know, it's tough. But I do love it. Um so I'm working on. some some projects right now that are. like comedy based and you know, we'll. see see how those go. >> Give me Give me a top three comics of. all time. >> For me Chappelle is like uh like. >> legend. >> just cuz it was just like my era, you.

know, like we we were like we were in. high school like when Chappelle was like. the Chappelle Show. >> episode, I will never forget going into. the school. >> the next day. >> after Clayton Bigsby. made his television debut. >> Oh my gosh, dude. If you like didn't watch the show like. that Wednesday night, on Thursday like. you weren't involved in conversations at. school. >> It's so true. I'm Rick James, [ __ ]. >> Chappelle is like.

definitely my definitely my top three. I. got to I have to go like uh Eddie. Murphy. >> Ooh. Two. Okay, taking it back. Nice. >> The leather the leather tracksuit or. jumpsuit or whatever. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Delirious. Eddie. Murphy Delirious. Can't say that THAT. GUY'S CANCELED. >> COMEDIANS ARE THEY'RE WALKING A FINE. LINE USUALLY. >> YEAH, YEAH, for sure. I you know you. know I love now. Like I like maybe. probably you can't really put him in a. top three, but right now like dude Shane. Gillis is just.

everything he touches, man. >> He's probably one of my favorites if not. all time, dog. Every single time I see. that dude on screen, I am [ __ ] dying. laughing. >> Yeah. Dude, and it does like it could be. like just him a podcast clip of him just. talking. Like he's just and it's just. he's just always has something. Yeah, it's it's it's really incredible. So I I. hope he keeps going on that trajectory. Um, so I'll go with those three. I'll. probably get some flak for Shane being. in the top three at this point in his. career, but he he's on his way. >> 100% especially with Tyrese. All right,

let's get into our last question. We. always ask everybody what was their. welcome to their profession moment. So. what was your welcome to NBA moment for. you? >> Oh, man. Um, I'd say. my the first time I played against Kobe, you know, I'm like so hyped up. and jump before the jump ball. He's. like, "Hey, what's up, young bell? Like. congratulations.". I'm like, "Man, are me AND KOBE BOYS?". >> I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE BEST FRIENDS.

I KNEW HE KNEW I WAS. I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE THERE'S a chance. we hang out after this. >> So I I'm sitting like, you know, this is. like maybe second quarter. I'm sitting. like this pin down screen and so for my. for my teammate and he's guarding him. Kobe's guarding him and he's coming off. and like Kobe's just like we talked. He's just just a competitor and he comes. off that screen so hard and just catches. me in the stomach harder than I've ever.

been hit in the stomach in my life. And. I'm just like doubled over and just like. breathing I'm like, "You know what? Maybe we're not We're not boys.". >> He was a lot nicer before than he is. now. >> But it was like a good reminder of like. it was like kind of like that welcome to. the NBA it was like, "Nah, you you can. say hello before the game, but you know, that that that jump ball happens like. it's it's all out war.". >> war. Hell yeah, man. >> And he was like the you know, he was. like maybe one of the last great guys. who like. it was like cool before the game, cool.

after the game, during the game, [ __ ]. you you're the enemy. You know what I. mean? I love that. I just think it's. great cuz it's no hard feelings. It's. like we're we're we're competing. >> Ultimate competitor, man. And you. definitely had that too, brother. Blake, thank you so much for the stories, dog. Thank you for the time. Uh. one of my all-time favorites on the. court, dog. And I honestly ever since we. got to hang, dog, just the [ __ ] best, man. It's always [ __ ] laughs through. the [ __ ] roof. And uh. can't wait to see how the the rest of. the Amazon stuff goes for you these. playoffs. Uh we'll be watching, brother.

>> I appreciate you guys. Thanks for having. me, man. >> Thank you to Blake Griffin. THAT. CONVERSATION WAS ONCE AGAIN BROUGHT TO. YOU BY REESE'S. >> HE'S SO FUNNY. >> Or as Travis and I call it Reese's. He. is the best. I mean. [ __ ] hilarious. I It's. >> It's fun going down memory lane with the. big guy, man. >> Smart as hell, also funny as [ __ ] can. chop it up, can goof be a goofball. He. is. >> Jack of all trades, man. >> Was an incredible player, but he is made. for doing TV and entertainment. >> I forgot to ask him about how why is he.

so good at commercials? I forgot to. [ __ ] ask him, man. He is literally. one of the best commercial like athletes. in the endorsements, commercials wise. Bro, god damn it. Oh, well. I'll have to ask. him in person next time I see him. >> He's got the it factor. He's Nobody's saying he's overexposed. Nobody was yelling at him for going on. >> Nobody's yelling at. >> got it. He's just got it. Kelsey's off. my [ __ ] screen.

>> God damn it. >> All righty, that wraps up another. episode of New Heights. THANK YOU TO. BLAKE GRIFFIN. ALSO, there are still. tickets available for our New Heights. live show in LA on June 15th. >> Let's go, baby. >> Check out the link in THE DESCRIPTION. >> LET'S GO. >> Make sure you subscribe to the New. Heights channel on YouTube or wherever. you get your podcasts. >> Once again, New Heights a wonder show. brought to you by Xfinity. Follow the show on all social media at. New Heights show with one S for fun. clips throughout the week. We're going. to have a bunch with our guy Blake. >> Thank you to New Heights production. team. Thank you to the 92% for tuning.

in. We'll see you guys next week, BABY. PEACE. >> THIS IS THIS IS THE FIRST DAY. JUST WANT TO PREFACE. This is the first. day of trying to dunk a basketball IN. 20 YEARS.

OH, I'M GOING TO TEAR MY ACL TRYING TO. DO THIS ANYMORE. ALL RIGHT. That's good enough. attempt for today. >> That's it for today. OH! >> OH! >> PRE-QUARTER SQUAD. That's a 9-ft rim. That's an actual. >> I was going TO SAY, NO WAY THAT. THAT IS. >> OKAY, THIS IS PRE-QUARTER SQUAD. I'M. TELLING YOU, if I show you some later. clips, I think. >> It did get better after this. How about. How about It did get better after this, yes. He I told him I was like, bro,

you're like gathering steps. You looked like a [ __ ] idiot. >> You looked like an offensive lineman. >> Exactly. We got to get your technique down. Go. watch some Blake Griffin highlights. Watch how he gathers. >> We got It's all about the approach and. the last two steps and then. >> There we go. >> Got to work on those hands, too. Maybe. we. >> We got to maybe we can space them out. You got spacers, Jason? >> I was spraying uh uh tough skin, the. stuff they put on your ankles before. they tape them. I WAS SPRAYING.

>> I WILL SAY THIS, JASON'S ONLY WORKING. WITH FOUR [ __ ] FINGERS. He [ __ ]. snapped a tendon in his right. hand. >> great. >> That's not yeah, that doesn't help. >> God, that was [ __ ] hilarious, dude. I. I hadn't seen that first clip in a. minute. >> We got some more to do, but we'll get. you there.