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You got to do the opening ceremony at. the Winter Olympics this year. How was. that experience? >> a great experience. It was just amazing. to be. that close to something like that. You. know, I just have such respect for. athletes. >> It really is a special event that takes. place on the national worldwide scale. >> And then you see the smallest thing go. wrong and you're just like, "Oh, it's because the stakes are so. high, right? If it wasn't the four-year. thing, it would be fine, right?" I don't. know. It's like you know you're probably. going to lose, right, Travis? But you.

keep playing. You got to keep playing. >> You got to just love it. >> When we're out there, we have 11 other. guys on the or 10 other guys on the. field with us going through it together. >> All eyes on them. >> You guys have had that feeling, right? >> I lost a Super Bowl to my brother and it. was the worst pain on the planet. >> I WOULDN'T EVEN. >> [music]. >> WELCOME BACK TO NEW HEIGHTS, LADIES AND. GENTLEMEN, boys and girls, a wondrous. show. And we are your hosts. I'm Travis. Kelce, my big brother Jason Kelce out of. Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to.

the Cavs, baby. >> Yeah. How about that? >> Donovan Mitchell. >> James Harden, man. Yeah, shout out to. the Cavs. Subscribe on YouTube, wherever. you get your podcast, and follow the. show on all social media @newheightshow. with one S for fun clips throughout the. week. And this is the part of the show. where Jason tells us what we have coming. up. >> Well, not to burst your bubble, but we. got another great episode. This time. brought to you by Liquid I.V. >> It's one of the greatest weeks in the. NFL BECAUSE IT'S DRAFT WEEK. >> DRAFT WEEK.

>> IT'S LOTTERY TIME ACROSS THE NFL. >> THROUGH FOR EVERYONE. >> OH, it's glorious. And if you've been. waiting to for your chance to see New. Heights live, we've also got another. great announcement for you. We are going. to be announcing that later, looks like. >> [laughter]. >> WE ALSO HAVE CHARLIZE THERON IS HERE. [screaming]. AWESOME NEW MOVIE COMING OUT. >> TALK A little Apex. >> Before we get into of let's get into. some of that. new news. >> Before we do anything, we have to have a.

moment. for this slice of brisket. >> [laughter]. >> Jay, look at this [ __ ] guy right. here. >> Oh, man. >> uh the the cameraman or woman, whoever. took this photo at uh. >> is this guy? >> Lane and Kelsie Johnson's wedding. >> So good. Shout out to Lane and Kelsie, man, for tying it, man. That's awesome. >> I thought I looked horrendous at this. wedding. This photo.

came out really good. Probably. a good angle, I would assume. >> you get the scarf and the bolo? >> We landed in the Nashville, that's where. the wedding was. We went from straight. from the Masters, you and I were at. there. And we wanted to get a bolo, me bolo. Allen, cowboy hat. We go in there. I didn't love the bolo tie selection. It. was okay. And then there was like a one that was. it was like just like a little thing. with a a ring around it and I was like, "Oh, like that one looks dope." And. they're like, "Well, that's more for. like a scarf." And I was like, "Oh, maybe I should I do a scarf?" And.

everyone was like, "Yeah, well, let's. see what it looks like.". >> [laughter]. >> And we tried the scarf and I was like, "You know what? I'm going to rock it. I don't know. I've. never worn a scarf, but I kind of dig. it.". >> Dude, you [ __ ] made the scarf [ __ ]. rock, dude. This is awesome. >> It was on for about 30 minutes and then. was off, but yes. >> We got to let it breathe. Got to let it. breathe in there. >> Yeah. >> The Kelsie way. >> It was uh the look definitely. really came together in a way that I was. not expecting. Wedding was awesome. It. was like a big reunion, so many former. players, offensive linemen. It was.

great. It was a tremendous time. >> That's awesome. >> Band was awesome. People were dancing. >> Got to love a good wedding band, man. [ __ ]. >> It's in the middle of a field. >> It was a ranch wedding, right? >> bad. I mean, it was just like a a pop-up. barn in the middle of like some tall. grass. >> [laughter]. >> They came out of a pasture. They all just kind of like walked down. >> [laughter]. >> This is great. >> I wouldn't expect anything else from. Lane. >> I was like, man, Lane, that's a that's a. long walk for the man Lane. >> Shout out to Lane and Kelse, man.

Um it looked amazing up there and uh. we also uh got a a little bit of Jason. Kelce back on the ice. Are you jumping. into the Battle of Pennsylvania with the. Flyers and the and the Pens going at it? >> Uh I wish. I wish. In another life for. maybe. But um. >> Dude, you looked the part. You did look the part. >> I do not look the part. Especially if. you watch the video. >> you and we don't want to go there. >> video. I can't skate at all anymore. The kind folks over at Bauer were. setting up. they're outfitting me. They saw a video. I did earlier this year.

with uh down in Jacksonville. There's a. dude an awesome facility where it's like. a bar, sports bar inside of an ice rink. >> Oh yeah, we talked about it, yeah. You. got a little men's league action, yeah? >> So there was some of that and uh they. said, "Hey, if you want to get outfitted. with a bunch of gear." So we kind of set. this up a while ago, even before the. playoffs were clinched. And um they got me some skates. Skates. are probably a little too big, so we're. going to size it down maybe a tad. >> What are you rocking? I got to have it. resized. I haven't gotten any skates in. a while. >> They were 13s, which usually go a size. down from a shoe, so it was a 13 skate.

I think I'm more like a 12 and a half. Like I don't know. We're going to try. the next one down, see if it fits a. little bit better. But it was all like. personalized. It was it was really cool, awesome for Bauer to do that. >> day and age, you don't need to be. [ __ ] out here like. feet like [ __ ] in there so you can. get quick feet and like you just got to. be comfortable out there. >> I agree. You want comfort. So we we. definitely were going with the Supremes. as opposed to the Vapors. But the. Supremes now, they're not like as thick. as they used to be. They're still.

>> Bauer Supremes, man. Those things were. [ __ ] sweet when we were kids, man. >> It is crazy seeing the difference of. like technology in the equipment now. from when we were playing when we were. younger. >> Did you guys watch hockey at all this. weekend? >> Did I? Dude, Flyers. That Flyers game. was a [ __ ] awesome. >> Do Philly you Pittsburgh have beef? >> It's all it's a rivalry for sure. >> I wasn't aware of how much hatred there. was until I got online with it, and. >> Who was it? Senators and Calgary? [ __ ] as soon as the puck dropped, [ __ ] Kucherov again, [ __ ]. >> Our guy Kucherov and Stall. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah.

>> Usual suspects. >> I know he plays for Ottawa. I don't know. who the other team was. I forget who. else was in Oh, it was Carolina. >> Carolina? >> Hurricanes, yeah. >> But yeah, Philly-Pittsburgh was good. >> The last time the Flyers were pretty. good with Giroux, Hartnell, who now does. like the postgame commentary. Uh Jakub. Jakub Voracek. Those guys were. playing the Penguins in the playoffs the. last time, early in my career. It's been. a while since they've been back. I mean, they might have been back one more time. since then. >> sending more remaining Flyers fans of. this, yes. And Flyers fans were. threatening to kill the Penguins at the.

zoo. So, like, it was a good. good-spirited back and forth from the. >> very Flyers fan-like. >> Oh, you guys, how many cups you guys. got? We'll kill the Penguins. You're. like, "Okay, guys, chill. Chill.". >> [laughter]. >> I just love playoff hockey. There's. They're cross-checking each other off. the puck. They're like. >> [clears throat]. >> And the refs are letting them play. >> murdering people. >> Did you Did you guys watch the Sabres. game at all? The first in how many years. they've had a playoff game? >> I saw the tailgate from the Sabres. >> Dude, the tail. >> [laughter]. >> The rollerbladers? >> That was the [clears throat] best. >> That's honestly the worst.

>> [ __ ] lame. >> Yeah, no, the arena was. >> Sabres mafia, look out. >> [ __ ] Sabres [laughter] mafia. Watch. out for the blades, dude. >> What what like. >> Children beating the [ __ ] out of them. >> It was great. But yeah, playoff hockey. is just by far the best. The game is so. fun when it's. >> You going to go to a game when it gets. back to Philly? >> Yeah. >> I would love to. I think I won't be. Unfortunately, I'll be out of town. Their second game is tonight in.

Pittsburgh. I think I'm out of town by. the time they come back to Philly. >> I'm going to go to the Flyers game with. you, Jason. >> Go for it. >> They're [ __ ] awesome. They're good. time. >> Philly doesn't love me unless I'm with. you. >> Dude, if you show up to a Flyers game, Philly will be all in. >> They'd [ __ ] boo me the [snorts] whole. time. >> Yeah, you'll probably get a little bit. of booze, but they'll also. You understand. >> I love boos. Boos are cheering at me. I love a boo. >> Philadelphia boo is kind of like also a. term of endearment. >> Yeah, it's a sign of respect. >> I don't know if it's respect. >> some ways.

Yeah, I wouldn't say that either. >> I don't know. >> It's more like a. acknowledgement of. annoyance. >> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> But when I show up in my [ __ ] Eric. Lindros jersey. >> You were a big Flyers fan growing up. actually. That was your team. >> I had a whole like. Florida ceiling poster of Eric Lindros. I was just like, if I could just be this. tall and sweet. >> LeClair was your guy. That was the guy. you talked about a lot. >> I was 88 in hockey. Yeah, I was Yeah, I. was 88 in my like Yeah, 88 I always.

thought was a [ __ ] dope number. >> Lindros, Tony G, LeClair. Brind'Amour. >> Those were some fun Flyers teams. [ __ ]. yeah. >> I was always into the Avalanche growing. up cuz I liked Forsberg and Wa, and Rob. Blake, Sakic. >> You guys weren't big Mike Modano fans? >> I I liked Mike. I I loved You know what? >> We didn't have a We didn't have a team. in Cleveland, so we really were We liked. players. >> Yeah, we were fans of the big names on. every [ __ ] team. The Blue Jackets. didn't come around until we were in like.

middle school. >> Yeah. >> And their junior Jacks were in our like. Cleveland suburban hockey league. for some other [ __ ] reason. Maybe. there wasn't like a big league in. Columbus yet. But I just remember wanting to [ __ ]. beat the [ __ ] out of those kids. every single time. And I was like, [laughter] what the [ __ ]. junior junior [ __ ] the [ __ ] out of. here. >> I'm with you. It felt like we needed. >> I actually did. I think I fought a coach. actually. >> Fought a coach? That's aggressive.

>> It got bad. I scored like five goals and. like was talking [ __ ] to their bench and. then at the end of the game I fought. we're like shaking hands or like doing. the like everybody skates past each. other. >> Yeah, yeah. >> And then their player [ __ ] hit me, I. hit him, then I got into a brawl with. the players, the coach that was in the. line shaking hands grabs me by the back. of my jersey and I just said, "WHAT THE. FUCK?". >> [laughter]. >> WOW. SOUNDS LIKE THE COACH Sounds like. the coach instigated it. >> know, you're on You're on the [ __ ]. ice. You're standing your ground.

You're on the ice with shoes on. So now it looks like he just got knocked. out by an eighth-grader. >> Ed Kelsey got big pops [ __ ]. Mom called him, I'm on the way home. He's like, "Don't ever do that when I'm. not there. Don't you ever put your. mother in that situation." I'm like, "I. don't plan on hitting a grown-ass man. ever again in my life, Dad.". >> Dad, that was not a choice that I wanted. to make. It was a weird moment in like a. kid's life where you realize that you. can you can. beat up like a fully grown. >> [laughter]. >> And it was That was one of the moments I.

was like, "Okay.". >> I don't I don't know if that's true for. everybody, guys. >> [laughter]. >> I'm a little taller than this guy, definitely towering over him on skates. >> I think you guys maybe are at a. different athletic abilities than some. of us. >> Mine was with Dad himself. We were like. in the house and he had just like I did. something where I was mouthing off to. him, I'm sure. He was like I was like. mouthing off. I don't know what I said. to him to get him so riled up. And he. just like. "You think you're Oh, the big tough. football guy? You think you've like. you're the big guy?" And he like tried.

to like wrestle me to the ground, but he. just kind of like fell and like was. like ankle biting me basically and I. just like fell down cuz I was like, "Oh. my god, this is like I feel so BAD FOR. DAD.". >> [laughter]. >> SO. >> PLAYOFF HOCKEY, PLAYOFF BASKETBALL, it's. a fun time to. get your fix in, man. >> Going from March Madness to playoff. basketball and playoff hockey, this is a. very fun And then the Masters in golf.

heating up, too. It's a very fun time. for sports. >> [ __ ] yeah. >> No doubt about it. >> Yeah, I'm not I'm not going to lie. The. ending to that [ __ ] Harbour Town with. Scheffler and Fitzpatrick. >> Yeah. >> If you're familiar with that, man, that. was [ __ ] fun one to watch. >> All right. Well, biggest piece of new. news, [ __ ] IT. WE'RE GOING LIVE. THAT'S. RIGHT. WE'RE TAKING THE show on the. road. New Heights is live in LA. We're. taking our talents West Coast. We're. going to be at the Orpheum Theater JUNE. 15TH. >> WE'RE TALKING SURPRISE GUESTS, BIG-TIME.

AUDIENCE INTERACTION, ALL THE USUAL NEW. HEIGHTS ENERGY LIVE IN FRONT of a crowd. That's right. THE USA IS KICKING OFF THE. WORLD Cup in LA. So, we got to be there to cheer them ON. AND. >> GO, USA. COME ON, BABY. [cheering and applause]. COME ON. >> GENERAL on sale for the 19% begins April. 27th. We'll put the link to buy tickets. in our bio. It also over at the Kelsey. Clubhouse. It's going to be fun. >> Dude, I can't wait, man. I'm ready. >> We've done one in Cincinnati. We've done. one out in.

>> Kansas City. >> in uh Kansas City uh for the draft a few. years back. Uh we did somewhat of one. down at the shore with a little beer. bowl action. >> Multiple, yeah. >> Yeah, this is going to be fun. >> It'll be a blast at the Orpheum Theater, man. We're going to We're trying to get. that thing packed and rocking and we're. going to have a whole bunch of games and. whole bunch of guests and I'm sure it'll. be a It'll be another electric evening. for the live shows, man. We're pumped. for it. >> Always is. Always is. All righty. >> Little t-shirt cannon. I owe Jason a. [ __ ] t-shirt cannon right in the. [ __ ] side of the dome.

Guy shot one at me from [ __ ] 3 ft. away. >> [laughter]. >> It didn't connect. It didn't connect. >> connected. I remember. >> New news, new merch. That's right. The. New Heights Essential SPRING COLLECTION. IS HERE. >> OOH, BABY. We got some new merch. >> have been asking for it. We finally have. New Heights crew necks. As you see right. here, that's not a crew neck. That's a. nice t-shirt Travis has, but there's. also. a cool design. The crew neck, the. Cleveland Heights tee, the globe hoodie. Ooh, that one's actually sick. I like.

that one a lot. The new Heights monogram. tee, all of it is now available on. kelseyclubhouse.com. If you want to support New Heights, wear. some merch, show people that you're fans. of the show. >> I love wearing these things. >> Or just get us to give you a big high. five the moment we see you. I mean, high five and a picture for New Heights. merch [laughter]. wearers, for sure. >> And it's a [ __ ] good shirt, guys. I'm. not going to lie. This this material and. everything is some of my favorites. >> Whoever did their homework on the on the. materials and sent them to us, they did. a great job.

>> Fantastic. Love it. So, go to. kelseyclubhouse.com, grab some merch. We got some good [ __ ]. for you guys. >> All right, 92%ers. You know we've got. our No Dumb Questions dropping soon, but. there's also a special Target exclusive. version of the book. It's got even more. dumb questions that didn't even make the. cut to the regular version. It's a. director's cut, if you will, of No Dumb. Questions. That's right. >> Ooh. >> So, if you want the full experience with. all the wisdom we could possibly cram in. there, make sure you grab the Target. exclusive edition of No Dumb Questions.

Pre-orders are live now. Links in the. bio below. And remember that all the. pre-orders of the book, you can get. exclusive sticker packs. Who doesn't. love stickers? Just pre-order the book. from Target or any retailer and submit. your receipt. >> Love it. >> And we've also got a bonus episode with. Jeff STOUTLAND DROPPING FRIDAY. >> OOH, THIS FRIDAY? THIS IS JEFF STOUT. >> We've been trying to figure out this. Jeff Stoutland episode for a while. We. were initially going to tag it on to. another guest episode, but we felt like. Stout deserved his own episode. Was.

highly instrumental in my career and a. lot of Eagles careers. So, excited to. launch this one on Friday. It's not only. Stout, it's also got a round table with. Jordan Mailata, Brent Celek. There's a. lot of Eagles-centric talks in there. So, if you're interested in that, you're. going to want to tune in. I think it. highlights one of the best coaches in. Eagles history. >> He's one of the best storytellers of all. time, too, man. He's He's so fun to talk. to, man. He's got stories for days. And. it's just such cool insight. Like. sitting here talking to Style just on. the pod alone and really hearing how.

much he loved this game and he loved. teaching this game. He just loved being. around guys that that desired that. knowledge, man. And And And really, you. know, took that knowledge and ran with. it like yourself like a Brent Celek or a. Jordan Mailata. So, I'll even be tuned. in. I missed the round table, but I got. I got some action in with him here on uh. new heights. Awesome. Well, last thing, uh shout out to Bacon. >> I had Patty Bakes. >> How about that? >> So, >> hole in one. >> of people don't uh don't know this. I.

went on a epic uh golf trip last week. from Ohoopee's Match Club to the. Masters, which is probably the two top. destinations in uh in the state of. Georgia to to play some golf and to see. some golf. And yeah, my guy uh DJ Young. Chuck, Charlie Grace uh kind of. you know, uh pioneered the entire. weekend and uh and and helped us get. into Ohoopee, but even then, man, Patty. Bakes on hole five [ __ ] hits his. first hole in one at Ohoopee Match Club.

You're going nuts. As you can see, he. has the beers in his hands. He had just. shotgunned a beer before the sh- before. the actual hit. Walks up to the hole, couldn't see the ball go in. So, we're. walking up to it. He thinks he hits it. over the green. >> AH! >> [ __ ]. >> GOD DAMN IT! >> HE'S ALL PISSED OFF AT HIMSELF holding. his beers in his hand. He walks up to. the hole just to peek in it. And sure. enough, that ball's laying right there. in the in the cup, man. And we all start. going nuts, start chugging beers, and um. about five beers later after three.

holes, Bacon's walking around like, "ANYBODY GOT ANY HEARTBURN MEDICINE? GOD. DAMN IT! I GOT TOO EXCITED." [laughter]. But uh from going from Ohoopee to the. Masters, we then saw Shane Lowry uh. right after I talked to you uh on the. front lawn. >> The next day. >> hit the hit a hole-in-one on six and we. were up at the top next to the the tee. box and if you've been to the Masters. hole six is a huge it's a drop and you. had a beautiful look at the hole and man.

that thing was tracking at the entire. time and the tee box turned into a. [ __ ] mosh pit. Everybody starts. banging shoulders, going nuts, throwing. beers in the air. I'm like this is the. Masters you can't do this at Augusta. >> Yeah. >> But sure enough man when you hit a. hole-in-one it doesn't matter where. you're at man the people are going to go. nuts. So shout out to Shane for for. dropping that in and uh shout out to old. Patty Cakes getting his first. hole-in-one and. uh it was it was an epic weekend of a. lot of fun with uh some of my closest.

friends so it was dope. >> I can't tell you how jealous I am. I've. still never seen a hole-in-one. You saw. two of them that week. There were four. that happened in the par three. >> I've seen like six hole-in-ones in my. life and the closest I've ever gotten is. Waste Management where it dropped to. like four feet. >> [laughter]. >> Like I I can't I can't even get close to. a hole-in-one. I've seen Pat Mahomes. literally shoot a skyrocket in the air, go in the cup, bounce 20 feet out of the. hole and then like had like a 40-foot. putt that he that he almost drained.

Like I've seen some [ __ ] crazy shots. on some par threes man. >> We can't uh. move on from this without taking a look. at this picture this very proud picture. of Patty Cakes on the green right after. his hole-in-one at a hoopy and without. giving a shout out to just the most. glorious calves in the history of the. world. >> [laughter]. >> It's I mean. I it's honestly like. it looks like they're implants. Like it. doesn't look like it's [laughter]. possible for someone of that stature to. have calves like that. >> He got he got [ __ ] he got a he got.

botox in his calves. >> Like if he was a woman you would for. sure think he had a BBL in his calves. [laughter]. BUT HE'S NOT. [screaming] HE'S NOT. It's. just his NATURAL BODY IMPLANTS. >> [laughter]. [screaming]. >> THESE THINGS ARE HILARIOUS. DOG, one of the funniest things. This is. what AI is good for right here. One of. the wildest things is that Hoopy. actually has zebras on property. So, when you're playing and Jason Jason, you played there. It's an epic course. They're all over the course on the. property. You can definitely see them.

And and it's one of like the unique. things about about the course. I definitely I grabbed like a putter. cover that's in the shape of a zebra. It's one of my favorite putter covers. now. One of the homies decided to AI. bacon on top of. on top OF A ZEBRA. >> [laughter]. [screaming]. >> OOH, BUT THIS IS THIS IS GOOD. THIS IS. how you know it's AI. Those are regular.

calves. THOSE ARE NOT PATTY BANKS. CALVES. >> Patty Banks would never look that. I mean, no, no, those are. >> [laughter]. >> those are kind of meaty, too. >> That's not enough, though. That's not. enough. >> Patty Banks. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, that's epic with the garage beer in. his hand. More fitting than the Miller. Lites that he was out there crushing. them on the on the course. So good, man. Shout out to Patty Banks. And that's it. for a new news. >> Thank you to our partner Liquid IV. When. it comes to travel,

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DRAFT IS THIS WEEK. >> DAMN MAN. >> Taking strays already. It's [ __ ]. April. That's right, we're recording. this on a Monday, so the Dexter Lawrence. trade is the biggest draft news right. now, which is [ __ ] huge. He goes from. the NFC to one of our AFC rivals and. don't love that because sexy Dexy is a. big piece to being a really good team. >> There's a picture of him going viral and. he's just like a. Of course he is huge. >> Enormous. >> And people are like, "Oh my gosh, he's. out of shape." Like, guys, he's a.

>> You think he was like you think he was. like he's just fine. >> What should I wear? Maybe I should wear. something like a black shirt or. something something slimming. >> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> There ain't no slimming that. [ __ ] He came through. >> I'll speak on Dexter cuz I had to block. him. I mean, and for me, I feel very. lucky that I got to play him young in. his career before he had figured out all. my tricks that I tried to use against. him cuz that was the only way I was. surviving. You know what's really. interesting with Dexter is he really. flourished when Wink Martindale got to. New York. And used a lot more five-man.

fronts, head up on the center, shades on. the center. Um he got a lot of one-on-one matchups. and he would just I mean, there's not. really a lot of centers in the NFL that. could block him. And he's still great. rushing from the three technique in the. B gap over guards. But that was like kind of when it really. took off. And Wink would also bring. these blitzes from all over the place. So you had to be worried about that. stuff as well. So you couldn't just. double him. >> Yeah. >> It'll be interesting to see how he's. utilized in. in Cincinnati. You know, Al Golden.

predominantly four down, he'll play five. man fronts. You know, getting this guy, I would. really try and find ways to give him. one-on-one matchups with the center, put. him over the center in zero techniques. and one techniques early downs. You. know, I'm obviously not a defensive. coordinator. I don't know the. ramifications for a lot of that stuff. I. just know watching the tape from a few. years when Wink was the D coordinator. and he was doing that, he was virtually. like unblockable. I mean, you would. watch the tape and it's like, god damn. guys, like it just.

destroying centers. And I mean, he is a. massive human being. He's every bit of. six every bit of 6'4 if not 6'5. He's over 340 easily and can move. He's. a dancing bear. And he said even when he. and you see it when he's doing his sexy. Dexy, which you do not want to see. >> [laughter]. >> So, this is a big big add for the. Bengals. I hope they utilize him in a. way that. uh, you know, really accentuates when. he's had the most success in his career.

Uh, so yeah, big move for the Bengals. A. big pick. This is the first time the. Bengals, I think, have given up a top 10. pick for another player. uh, in a long time. I I saw some stat. that is not in the rundown, but they. haven't traded away a top 10 pick for a. player in a long time. >> They kind of been notorious for going. through the draft instead of. kind of giving guys contracts like this, but I mean. >> Yeah. >> Sexy Dexy, he got him at least a one. year for 28, was it? >> I thought I thought it was going to be.

I thought it. >> I thought it was going to be way up. there. >> Yeah, I mean, he's a little bit of an. outlier cuz he's a nose guard, but he. also rushes on third down at the three. technique spot, so. you know, I I think he's just he's so. dominant when used properly or in ways. that he has been dominant that um, you know, it's worth every penny and. controlling the middle. of you know, an offensive line stops the. run. It generates pressure to allow edge. rushers and people to get after the. quarterback in the pass.

Um. it's it's a really good building block. for a defense and you know, they already. have Joe and T and. uh and uh oh my god, why am I blanking? Uh. uh. Chase Chris Brown uh Chase Brown uh are. you frozen? >> No, I'm trying to see where you're going. with this. >> Well, they already have all that on. offense. So, obviously they they come. with this piece. >> not Chase Brown. >> Ja'Marr Chase God damn it. >> Chase Brown was the safety for the. Eagles.

>> I was waiting for you to kind of help. me, but you just let me flounder there. Thank you, Travis. >> as well. I was like Mhm, who's he. talking about? >> They already have All right, so they. already have Tee Higgins, they already. have Ja'Marr Chase, they already have. Joe Burrow, they have a lot of. offensive firepower. They know that they. want to win now. They go out and get. Dexter Lawrence. Hopefully adds a lot to. a defense that has really been a. weakness there in Cincinnati. Um look. forward to seeing what that looks like. this season. >> Hell yeah. >> Trav, who are the Chiefs taking? >> I don't know. >> In the draft then? >> We're going to find out. >> You're lying. You know exactly who.

you're taking. They always tell the. players. >> They know [laughter] they tell me. everything. Um no, I think uh I'm just. hoping for a guy that loves ball, man. You know, I think one of the things that. you just want to have when you get back. into the building after a season like. last year, man, you just want guys that. love what they're [ __ ] doing. And I. think it's uh it's it's one of the. things that I look for in these young. guys when they come in is this how. infectious is your energy? I need that. out of these young guys, man. Uh and and and sometimes, you know, it's. uh it takes a.

little bit for a guy to like get. comfortable in his shoes and to really. like show his personality, but um Coach. Reid says it best, man. We want you to. show that personality. Want you to be. yourself and and bring the energy to the. to the building, to the everyday grind. that we can just go and unleash out of. them on Sundays. And I think, you know, that's one of the biggest things I'm. looking forward to in seeing who we're. going to go and draft this year is uh. you know, how much energy and how much fun they're. bringing to the uh to the squad. >> If you're conducting a top-30 visit, what is your number-one question to see.

if a guy's got it? >> Just your knowledge of the game. >> I don't know there's one question. >> There's There's no There's no one. question. I'm going to I'm going to ask. you questions about, you know, a lot of things in terms of your. knowledge for the game, how you acquire. that knowledge, what's that process look. like, um. you know, I think uh I think a lot of. these young guys, at least what I what I've seen in. college football from the time that I've.

been there to to now is just that leap. into the league. You just don't know. that you don't know enough about. football. And so, the guys that the guys. that have a good understanding of uh of. what the other side of the ball is. doing, um has a good understanding of uh. of how to have success multiple ways. through the offense that's in place, I. just think it's it's it you get a head. start on that. And um and you know, I. I I want the guys that are ready to play. now, especially if you got two.

first-round picks. I want the guys that. are ready to play right [ __ ] now, you. know? >> This is my thing when the like top-30. visits, like I feel like a lot of the. responses are so like pre-planned by. guys. It's hard to know when a guy is. like being himself, when he's trying to. do what an agent tells him, like. I just I don't put too much stock into. asking questions there. If you want to. like put guys through tests on the. board, there's certain positions. obviously like quarterback, center, where like it's good to get a gauge of. like what their football IQ is.

Put question Give them like verbage the. first day, then when you get with them. the following morning, you re-ask. verbage to see how well they retain. information. I've heard questions like I. know it uh One of the questions they. used to ask a lot was like, are you a. dog or a cat person? And some coaches. felt like dog people were more like. team-centric, whereas cat people were. more like isolated as individuals. >> No [ __ ] way. No thank you. >> think a lot of it is so nonsense. >> What was the craziest top 30 visit you. went through? >> I only did two. I only So I Well, I did. three. I take it back. I did a Kansas.

City Chiefs one. I did one with the St. Louis Rams, who Coach Spagnuolo was the. head coach of at the time. Sat down with. him in the office. And then I did a late. visit with the Eagles. And that's when I. first met Howard Mudd and Eugene Chung, the assistant O-line coach. Uh and I felt like of all the visits, the Eagles visit felt like it went. the best. I felt like the whole process, the Chiefs were the most interested. So I thought there was a chance I'd go. to uh Kansas City.

But for some reason leaving that. building, leaving Novacare, it felt like. Howard Mudd, me, I got to talk to Andy, like it felt like the whole visit went. really well. And it felt like there was. a lot of interest there, too. So. um. I don't remember like any crazy things. What about you? What's the craziest. question you got? >> Dude, they put me in uh I was coming out. in '13. Mike Shanahan was still a head. coach in the National Football League, and he was a head coach at Washington.

And that was the legendary. like LaFleur, obviously Kyle Shanahan, McVay. >> Sean McVay, yep. >> All these. >> That's where it all originated at. >> Yep. >> Well, it really originated in Denver. with Mike and Gary Kubiak, but yeah. >> Yeah, you already know. That was So I. didn't even know at that time meeting. all those guys in that building was. going to turn out to be what it is. today. The craziest thing that ever. happened, I wasn't even in a. room with a football coach. They sent me. to like a shrink, and I started doing. these little table games. Like like.

problem-solving like games. Like I was. like a toddler almost. And it was like, "How do you put all the rings onto this. you know, pole without you know what I. mean? It's like little games like that. and and they would time it and they. would ask you questions afterwards and. it's just like problem-solving games and. you get that the the shrink in front of. me looked like they were just like. jotting down like numbers and like. scores and all this [ __ ] I'm just. sitting there. I'm like, "What the [ __ ]. [laughter] does this have to do with. football at all?" And I guess.

>> I kind of love it though. >> I actually really do. This is kind of. one of the. >> He still does. Yeah, I was going to say. >> Yeah. >> This is one of the things that Shanahan. does that that kind of gives him an. understanding of how well you can. problem-solve and how well process and. how quickly you can do it and how. quickly you can figure something out on. your own without being told what the. point of the game is. And I think that. was like kind of like. a fascinating kind of like shock of. like, "Is this why Mike Shanahan's so.

good? He's just getting all these guys. that are good at these like jigsaw. puzzle games?". >> It's a pretty damn good system as well. >> Yeah, I guess it was like one of his. ways of like getting a guy in the. building and seeing his problem-solving. skills. >> I do like that and one of so even at the. combine there's two different tests. I. don't know if you remember this. >> to this day want to know how like my. score was. They didn't tell me. they didn't tell me. they didn't tell me how like good my. scores were compared to all the other.

guys that they brought in. I wanted to. know so bad how good I did on that. [ __ ]. like part of the. >> We got to get Kyle Shanahan. We got to. get Kyle Shanahan in here and find out. what your score was. >> It's documented somewhere, right? >> coach. >> Either that or Mike. You got to get Mike. Shanahan. >> they don't erase they don't erase any of. that stuff. >> Mike's got it, too. >> Um at the combine they would give you. two tests. They would give you the. Wonderlic test, which is what everybody. knows is like the predominant like level. of like measuring like intelligence or. IQ. >> The NFL world, yeah. >> Yeah. But the other one that I thought was far. more applicable to football intelligence.

was the puzzle test. >> [ __ ]. job on the [ __ ] Wonderlic, didn't and. SATs. I wasn't bad. I was always average. at them because I'm a slow reader. I. don't read quickly and I just takes I. don't any time test I just don't finish. the test. Like the Wonderlic I only. finished like 26 questions and it's like. 50 questions long. So there's no way I'm. going to have a good score. But. the I felt like the puzzle test at the. combine is more applicable for football.

book and you would have to like. list what shape was next and like each. time the puzzle would get harder and you. had to like list what shape was next. Had it's really a pattern test. I don't. puzzles wrong. That's why I didn't do. good on the Wonderlic. Um but the stuff like that stuff like. these little games I do think is better. at generically gauging like how well. somebody recognizes patterns, spatial. awareness, like. an intelligence that's more applicable. for the game of football rather than you. know. how well you can.

answer a full-on sentence in a Wonderlic. test. Like I just don't think that that. really tells much about I've seen guys. do great on tests like that and have. great SAT scores and they have no idea. to tell if a nickel's blitzing. So I. don't know like it just doesn't it. doesn't [laughter] do that much for me. You know what I mean? It just like. doesn't do. not really that into it. I did think at. one point we had like a pickleball court. in our. in our weight room. We had like a little. outline and guys could play like in the. off season. And I used to tell them like.

dude whenever you get the top 30 guy in. here just bring him down here and let's. play some pickleball and I'll tell you. if he's like worth a [ __ ] cuz you could. tell just by stupid games. And Nick. Sirianni Nick Sirianni said the same. thing with like. I I do agree it it doesn't track with. football. Well he said the same thing about rock. paper scissors which I think is even. more like not true but like I do think. if somebody's not competitive and they. don't care. that's a red flag to me cuz like it. doesn't matter what game you're putting. in front of me, for the most part, I'm.

going to try and figure out how to win. >> What about shadow boxing? >> I just don't like to want to play it. It. doesn't interest me to play the game. But if I was doing it, I would be trying. to do it. I wouldn't be half-assing it. Like if I'm playing pickleball and. somebody comes on to play pickleball and. they're like just like clearly. uncoordinated or like not giving a. decent amount of effort, I'm like, yeah, [ __ ] this dude. You don't want this guy. He's going to You're going to You're. going to quit quickly. >> You're [ __ ] insane. If that's your If that's your job.

interview to be the [ __ ] scout team. or scout for the for the Eagles, man. Hilarious. >> think it's a fair assessment. >> I don't need to watch any film here. Just bring him on the pickleball. >> Well, of course the film The film. matters more. I'm just talking about. getting a gauge for their overall. competitiveness and desire to win. >> Hilarious. >> I will say this, and the reason I got. this theory was all the guys that I. played in pickleball in the off season. that just were not fun to play.

pickleball against cuz they sucked with. effort, also coincidentally sucked as. football players. >> A correlation there. I'll take your word. for it. Well, the Eagles are. >> Well, hold on. Speaking Speaking of. Yeah, so But you just mentioned. something like obviously the tape is the. most important thing. When you're. watching tape, what are you looking for? >> First off, you have to be a competitor. You got to You have to show your love. for the game, your competitiveness, how. much how much you want to compete on. every single play. That's That's one of. the one of the things that I think needs. to be like higher than.

a lot of the other attributes is like. does your love for the game show on the. field? How much do you How much do you have. that desire to to play this game? Is And. does it translate through the building? Does it Does Does it Does Is it. infectious to the guys around you? Um and things like that. And then on top. of that, it's defensive understanding. And you can tell by how guys, depending. on what route they have, how they stem, how they attack players, how they attack. leverage. If it's man-to-man coverage, I. want to see how how much of an artist.

are you? Are you creating. a route within the concept? And I'm not. saying doing your own [ __ ] thing. Like. >> No. >> All I'm saying is that, you know, if. it's a slant, I'm not just running three. steps forward and hitting a 45° angle. >> I know the basic concepts of the slant. How do I take it to another level? >> Even if it's zone, or if it's match. zone, or something like that, you got a. a. a player often inside, like, what does. that angle look like coming inside? Am I.

Is my angle at a at a certain degree to. where I can get to the ball faster than. that defender can? You know what I mean? Like the angles. and how guys are coming out. Some guys. just have a natural feel for that. And I. think. >> Yes. >> all that you can definitely see on film, for sure. >> Dude, I'm I'm glad you're bringing up. all of that. I think all of that's. really. intriguing and interesting, especially. with the draft coming up. There's going. to be a lot of new guys realizing their. dreams of playing in the NFL for the. first time, uh getting into these OTAs. and camps, and then training camp coming. up in a few months. Um.

and I used to get asked a lot by like. young guys, like, "Hey, what's what. what's advice? Like, what what should I. do? What do I need to do in training. camp to make the team?" Things like. that. I would say, "Dude, you need to. stand out.". These coaches are looking at guys every. single day, right? They're watching. tape. And do you want to be a guy that. they're just watching as like, "Okay, right guard did his job, right tackle. did his job." Or you want to be a guy. where they're like, "Who is this guy?". Where are you separating yourself? Whether it's in the You can separate. yourself in the meeting room by being. very cerebral, attentive, asking. questions, and being very involved in.

discussions, right? That's one way to do. it. The one way that is guaranteed to. separate it, if you play harder than. everybody else. And I know that's like a. It's a moniker. >> If you watch my college film, that's. what got me the recognition. That's what. got me to stand out. >> If you finish to the echo of the. whistle. If you go if you're the last. one to stop every play, every single. scout, every single coach, everybody. looking at the tape is going to be like, "Who the [ __ ] is that guy?" Right? So, I. Listen, I don't know what you want me to. say. Yes, there's going to be. limitations that everybody has. You're.

not going to be Maybe you're not the. best pass blocker. Maybe you're not the. best run blocker. The one thing you have. control over is your effort, right? Coming to camp in shape and finish. >> That's what I'm saying. The first thing. I want to see is how much do you love. this [ __ ] game? How much do you want. How much do you How much do you want to. compete on every [ __ ] play? And don't get me wrong. There have been, you know, times in my career where I had. to evaluate myself and be like, "Am I. showing this? That play was [ __ ]. unacceptable. That play is.

embarrassing." You know what I mean? And. And it's moments like that where you're. just like, "I got to get my [ __ ] [ __ ] going.". And there there times where I've seen. that on the biggest stages and I've been. [ __ ] embarrassed. >> We were playing, I forget what game, what year it was, but there was like a. play, I think Carson was the. quarterback, and the entire offensive. line was just standing there. And. I just remember like, "What [ __ ] am I. doing? Like, why am I just standing there? Is. it because I'm tired? Is it because I. thought the ball was gone?" I have no. [ __ ] clue. All I know is that that's.

not acceptable, right? So, what do you. do? After practice, you go and run a. couple Like, you pull almost like punish. yourself or if you are out of shape, you. get yourself in shape. Those are the. only options. And then after every. single drill, after a game like that where I felt. like, "Hey, I need me to get better. effort." I would go in. and run 5 to 10 yards after each thing. It would be annoying and it would be. stupid sometimes. >> And I'm more tired in practice than. anybody else, but I'm going to Yeah, 100%. >> I'm going to train myself and condition. myself that this is the standard. This.

is how you wreck. Anyways, back to these young guys. You are marketing yourself each and. every play you are on the field. To the. coaches, to the scouts. And what Travis is saying is exactly. right. Your competitiveness and how hard you go. is going to be one of the things that is. abs- every coach is going to love. >> Is feening for their fee- they're. drooling to find a guy like that. >> Yeah. Now, you got to be able to be good. enough, too. That's not alone, but you. want to make the team, that's a damn. good start. And that's something you can. control. >> All that [ __ ] is infectious. When you.

get guys flying around on defense and. everybody's at the [ __ ] ball and. everybody's [ __ ] getting excited for. the guys that's making the [ __ ] big. hit. You watch Seattle's defense last. year, those guys [ __ ] loved each. other, man. Those guys every single [ __ ] tackle. was a [ __ ] celebration. Granted, they. were making some [ __ ] big hits and. making some big tackles and rallying to. the [ __ ] football, but the 49ers have. done it in years past. When the when our. defense is is is at the top, I see it. It's infectious. And I see that on the.

defensive side of the ball, I'm [ __ ]. excited as a as a player that's on that. team. I I'm going to [ __ ] match that. energy on on the offensive side when I. get a first down or I get a big catch. >> Having great players obviously matters, but I do think that like half of being. good on defense is just playing. relentless energy and rallying to the. ball. Right? And coaches preach it, but. dude, if you guys are truly doing that, it is so hard to execute offensively. Now, you got bad players, you got bad. players, but that's that's a big. component of it. And that's one common. thing that all great defenses do have.

>> Yeah. The one thing I always tell guys. is, bro, understand the other side of. the ball just as you just as good as you. understand your side of the ball. Like if I'm playing like the one of the. I think one of the coolest things that. that you specifically, you know, kind of. taught me without even telling me was. you knew the defense. because you played linebacker in in that. system. You know what I mean? When you. when at Cincinnati, when you moved from. linebacker to center, you understood gap. assignment. You understood how how.

safety rotation happens. How how like if. there's a rotation over here, something. has to, you know, uh happen on the. backside for everybody to be balanced. and for a defense to be sound. And it's. like when you understand what the other. side of the ball is doing to the point. where you can literally point out what. guys are doing before the snap, it makes you play at a four If you're a. 4-5 guy, it makes you play at a 4-3. It. makes If you're a 4-7 guy, it makes you. play at a 4-5. You know what I mean? Because you're more alert and more.

precise with your movement and there's. no wasted time. And it's like and it's like when you. find guys that it's working faster up. here, you know what I mean? Whether they're a. 4-3 guy or a 4-5 guy or a 4-7 guy like I. was like like what when when you find. guys that are making it happen faster. here, the timing of the offense, the the. the ability to be there before the ball. on defense, the natural instincts that. you have and that your training.

instincts. You're training your mind to. [ __ ] think fast. You're training your. mind to not only think fast, >> Not even think, just go. >> the thing and and you're reacting and in. practice and in. and in film study, you're creating these. instincts to be able to when you. recognize something, you're immediately. doing something to react to that to. benefit you. That's one of the biggest. things for me when I'm watching film and. seeing what guys are doing or really. evaluating myself is like how am I how. am I using the ability to understand.

things at a high level to play faster, especially at you know, you're getting. later in your career and the body just. doesn't move like it used to. >> Dude, I wish I knew what I knew late in. my career when I was early. You know. what I mean? What's crazy about. offensive line, I got better as I got. older and more unathletic. Which is kind. of like. >> It's crazy. >> It's not the way it's supposed to work. You're supposed to I didn't make a all. pro until I was 28 or 29 or whatever it. was, right? Like I made it all after my. prime, but that brings back a memory to.

me. Kobe Bryant came and talked to our. team in 2017 the year before that we. went to the Super Bowl that year. >> Settle flex, settle flex, okay. >> And normally I'm not a huge fan of like. basketball relations to football like I. think it's a different sport and anyways. Doug had a. a Kobe coming in to talk to the team. And he said a couple things that he said. one thing that resonated with most. people. And they said you know, what's. your mindset in the game? Somebody asked. him it was something along that lines. He said I wanted to make the guy across. from me quit. I wanted to make the guy.

across from me not want to play. basketball. And I remember everybody. being amazed at that statement. And the. guy said, how did you get what would you. what advice would you give to any young. player? And Kobe said you know, be curious. Try and learn as much as you can. >> Yeah. >> And all of these [ __ ] idiots were. talking about how cool it was that he. wanted to make the other guy quit and. I'm like, WHAT DO YOU WHERE DO I DO WITH. THAT? THERE'S NOTHING I GAIN FROM HAVING. that piece of information. How about be. curious is such a [ __ ] awesome way to.

say knowledge is power man. Learn as. much as you can on how you're supposed. to operate on what the guys around you. are operating on and what the defense is. like. Having all of that knowledge is. going to help you be such a better. player. HIGH LEVEL EXECUTIVES ARE LIKE, OH MAN HE WANTS TO MAKE the guy across. from him quit. Cool. What the [ __ ] do I. do with that? HOW DID HE GET TO BE A. SUCH a good [ __ ]. >> How did he make him quit? You know what. I mean? Oh, he made him quit because he. was so [ __ ] good and a step ahead of. his guy that it felt like there is. nothing the guy in front of him could do.

to [ __ ] stop him. >> It was such a profound disconnect with. like how how did you guys hear those two. statements? And that was the one that you're like. that's going to really change my game. >> But the curious part is like it's not. just like hearing the your game plan. It's not just understanding the defenses. like scheme. It's like you're being. curious on like oh, well if they do have. the one coverage that might stop this. play, how would I still beat it?

How can I manipulate them to open up a. window or how can I beat this defender. up to get myself open in time with the. quarterback? And it's just like being. curious isn't just doing the job. It's. finding what those extra It's Exactly. It's problem-solving with problems that. don't seem like they can be solved at. this time. But it's having the. creativity and the curiosity to go out. there and try it at least to get it. done. >> There's a guy I'm going to give some. love to. He was a late round pick.

Brandon knows him because he's a [ __ ]. UT guy and he loves everybody from. [ __ ] Texas. Uh Moro Ojomo. Used to drive the offensive line crazy. On scout team he would ask questions. constantly. Like, "Hey man, what what do. you think about this? What if I did. that? What. Why do you do this on this play? Why do. you do that?" That guy has developed so. much as a player because he's built up. such a knowledge early in his career. He. had a great year last year. I would. anticipate him continuing to play well. and he is maximizing what he has.

And Stout used to say it all the time, "Knowledge is power." And just like. you're saying, "We're not just running. routes on a paper. We're trying to know. why are we running this route? Why does. the quarterback want us there? Why is. Why am I going there?" All of these. things you're trying to have answers to. and trying to like become the best Allow. that information. to take your game to another level. So, yeah, be curious and play harder than. everybody else. That's the note to all the draft picks. that are going into camp. Those two. things.

dominate those two. Well, I guess if you. all do it, somebody's going to get cut. But either way, that's how I would. approach it. >> He'll find a way on another team. It'll. show It'll show on film. >> Coach Mo, my guy. Dude, that guy would ask so many. questions and so many guys would be. like, "Dude, will [ __ ] Moro just shut. the [ __ ] up?". >> [laughter]. >> If you're actually like using that. information. If you just got a dumb ass that when you. tell him something he's like. >> Yeah. >> Like. >> We don't We don't make those kind of. players at the University of Texas. So, don't So, don't Let's not start that.

>> Let's just be fair. Jamaal Charles. didn't ask questions. >> He [laughter] didn't [ __ ] have to. Jamaal didn't have to ask questions. >> Give Jamaal the ball. >> Am I getting the ball? Question. answered. Thank you. >> It's very rare for a running back to be. a question asker. >> [laughter]. >> Jamaal and I were at school at the same. time and he was generally one of the. nicest people. That's my only story of. him. I met him a couple times. Generally. nicest dude. He was very much mobbed by. students, but was always very kind about. it and very nice to all of us. So, thank.

you. >> He's the greatest, man. >> Unlike Kevin Durant who wouldn't even. high-five me one time, you [ __ ]. >> Don't Shia LaBeouf this. Don't I don't. want to hear this Mike Piazza. >> Yeah, Kevin Durant will [ __ ] tweet at. my ass. Kevin Durant will [ __ ] tweet. >> KD I [ __ ] with KD. >> No, he's cool. I just I went for the. high-five and he like looked at me and. was like By the way fair. >> I So, obviously watching KD our. like entire. growing up and everything and. >> we going with this? >> Yeah. >> Watching him at UT.

was [ __ ] unbelievable, right? >> It was electric, dude. >> It was electric. >> nobody There was nobody in college that. looked like that, could play like that, could compete like that. Goes to the league. Thunder KD or. Seattle KD to Thunder KD. I'm like man, this guy is just. lighting this [ __ ] up. And I And I had. given him the respect in my mind like. this dude is like one of the best. players in the [ __ ] league, but it. was always like on ESPN it was always. LeBron, it was always Kobe, it was.

always Steph. Bro, he went to Golden. State and I saw that man live in action. Bro, he is top five one of the best. players ever to play in the [ __ ] NBA. Seeing a 7-footer run around, crossing. everybody up like that, [ __ ] chucking. threes, [ __ ] dunking on anybody. Bro, that's seeing the floor like that. I'm. like, bro, I thought LeBron was like the. only one. Like KD KD, bro, no. This dude was out.

here just [ __ ] owning every aspect of. the [ __ ] floor. >> And I was just like, holy [ __ ]. >> Have you watched. I know we're we're rambling here, but. have you watched Wemby at all this year? >> It's not as impressive because KD KD was. so [snorts] quick. >> I agree. >> To be that [ __ ] tall. >> Wemby is hitting eight hitting fadeaway. threes. >> Yeah, and that's impressive. Don't get. me wrong, but that's you don't I mean. you it's like a it's like the modern-day.

Kareem with the hook shot. It's there's. just nothing you can [ __ ] do. >> Wemby's got to get some shoes that don't. [ __ ] collapse on his ankles. I mean, what are we doing here? I don't. >> What happened? >> [laughter]. >> I do Every time I watch that guy run and. cut, like his shoe looks like it's about. to explode. I'm like, dude, we got to. get this guy some better [ __ ] footwear. It's not working out. >> Get on it. >> Do you not notice this with Wemby? >> I mean, it's every NBA player. If you. take a screenshot of when they're like. [ __ ] crossing over or something, it's. like their [ __ ] [laughter]. ankle is on the ground, dude. It's. insane.

>> I feel like it stands out especially. with that dude. >> It's all this new light material. Never. saw Jordan's ankle on the floor. >> Who is the most dominant college player? >> The most dominant college player? [ __ ]. man. I mean, I'm a I'm a high-flying. action kind of guy, so I like the dudes. that are just [ __ ] dunking on. everybody like a Blake Griffin. >> Man. >> That dude in [ __ ] college. Oh my god. >> He's a beast. >> I saw I saw him play, too. >> Yeah. >> That was insane. >> Dude.

>> He was so large and he jumped so [ __ ]. high. >> [laughter]. >> Like Robocop in a jersey, just [ __ ]. NBA hang time jamming on everybody, dude. >> I don't know why and maybe tell me how. off I am cuz I'm not like the most. college basketball knowledgeable human. being, but the and maybe it's just cuz. it timed up right in my like heart of. like sports fandom, basically, but I feel like Carmelo Anthony, when he. was at Syracuse, was insane. >> Melo was another one, dude. He kind of.

had that like bro, he's like 6'9 in. person. Like what do Like I'm like. [ __ ] looking up at Melo like this. when I see him. Like you are moving on. the basketball court like that? What the [ __ ]. >> I still remember that year at Syracuse. >> The smoothest [ __ ] jumper, dude. >> That was beautiful. >> Bunch of college basketball truthers. will probably [ __ ] all over. >> You can't [ __ ] on those. Both of those. guys won championships, yeah. >> There's going to be somebody we're. forgetting that they're going to [ __ ] on. us for, and I'm fine with that. >> A guy that was electric when we were in.

college, Trav, and won me in my bracket. competition was Kemba Walker at UConn. >> Kemba, shoutout to Kemba and UConn. The. crossover at the Big East tournament. buzzer beater, holy [ __ ] Was that I. think it was Big East tournament. It might have been March Madness. They. might have saw this dude again in March. Madness. >> March Madness was the crossover, right? >> Kemba was the the step back was March. Madness. >> It was the Big East tournament. >> Thank you, Jake. I knew I knew. I knew I knew. >> And it wasn't even the championship of. the Big East tournament. >> Well, that's why Jake knows. It was at. the [ __ ] Garden. That's why he knows. >> Well, that's why I knew, too. I [ __ ].

always wanted to play in the Garden. >> Still time. >> You're right. I still I could still. manipulate my way in there. What. position would I play? What [laughter]. What would a 6'5 255. guy do? >> dude, you you you got to just be you you. got to be Anderson Varejao at this. point. You got to. You got to just be energy off the bench. at this point. >> [laughter]. >> All heart. That guy is all heart. >> YOU YOU GOT TO BE THE GUY STANDING OUT. AT THE END of the tape session. You got. to be that guy. >> out. Got to stand out. I'm [ __ ].

diving at everyone's ankles. >> Elbows kind of guy. Get in there. >> You got to do all the old man tricks. Like they go up for the [ __ ] jumper. you put your shorts down. PULL THEIR SHORTS DOWN. >> [laughter]. >> CAN YOU IMAGINE? GIVE A GUY A WET WILLY WHILE the shots. going up just so I can get good box out. >> Just like making the star player just. annoyed the entire time. Just like. [ __ ] with his equipment. Stepping on. his shoe back of his shoe so his heel.

comes out. Like doing all the little. [ __ ]. >> Uh Lance Stephenson. >> Lance Stephenson, dude. >> Yes. >> He was blowing on LeBron. >> [laughter]. >> That's what it is, bro. >> You got to call up Lance and get back in. the league. >> crossover and mid-range though. >> Yeah, he was. >> Okay, other than that you basically are. what I I've always thought of you as. Lance Stephenson type. >> Get the [ __ ] OUT OF HERE. [laughter]. >> ALL RIGHT. WELL, FOR THE last bit of NFL. news going into the draft the Eagles. still might be trading AJ Brown to the. Patriots. >> So, yeah, I mean listen, not that. surprising, right? I think this has been.

uh. you know, something that has been. rumored all off season. I think a lot of. times too you can tell by the way teams. answer questions. Like generally when. teams shut down trade talk right away is. like that's a guy that they're trying to. keep. In general, they're always. listening to offers. Like as a team you. kind of have to be willing to do that. >> Any good GM isn't just going to [ __ ]. shoot it down. They're going to hear. what the [ __ ] offer is. >> But at the same time. teams that aren't interested in moving. players, they don't say that to the.

public. Like yeah, no, we're sticking. behind our guy. Like we're not doing. that. It's been pretty apparent to. anybody that's been following this whole. thing. >> sides want to move on. >> Well, I think that there's. I think that there is a. >> speculation. Allegedly both sides. >> I think that there's a willingness to. move on for the right price from the. Eagles if teams are willing to. match what would be a fair asking price. for the level of talent that AJ Brown. is. That's just kind of the way that all. the news has been coming out about this.

And June 1st happens to be the day where. there's a different like cap hit to the. Eagles if they do move on from A.J. I want to say this. I I think that A.J. Brown was not the issue with the offense. of the Philadelphia Eagles and he's a. major piece that is a very good player. So, at the end of the day, I think it's. a net loss losing A.J. Brown. I think. it'll be apparent wherever he ends up. He's a great player. He was a. disgruntled player with the way he was. used and some of these other things and. I get that frustration. I think his. teammates get a lot of the frustration. as well because you still have not seen.

a lot of negative comments or any. negative comments come out from his. teammates in the way A.J. Brown handled. last season. Was it frustrating for fans. to watch at times? Yes, obviously they. voiced that. At the end of the day, A.J. Brown is a good teammate, a great. player, and a guy that. adds to an offense in a legitimate way. So, if it does get to this, it's not it. sucks, right? But, it has been something. that has been rumored. I think we'll get. some answers to with how the Eagles. handle the draft this week, right? If. they draft a receiver early,

that kind of tells you they plan on. doing something. You know, they go out. and sign Hollywood Brown, they have. DeVonta Smith, they have A.J. Brown. You're probably not drafting a receiver. that high with all three of those guys. in the receiver. You're pretty set. So, you draft somebody pretty high, you're. probably thinking something's happening. June 1st. Um it'll be interesting to see. where the Eagles go in general. Like, you know, obviously offensive line is a. position that they've speculated on. Uh Lane Johnson's getting older. I. happen to think Lane has a lot of. football left if he wants to play. Um I.

think uh you know, defensive end, edge. rusher. Obviously, we just talked about. receiver. Uh it'll be interesting to see. where the Eagles go, especially early in. the draft. Who's available and what they. value most in kind of upgrading at. >> Nice. Well, it's the draft, baby. I'm. [ __ ] pumped for it. I know uh the. entire world is pumped for it. I can't. wait to see what Brett Veach does and I. know the Eagles are uh are itching at. the bit to get Thursday so they can see. who They uh they're picking in that. first round, man. >> No thing. Is there anything else we.

wanted to touch on in the draft? Got Fernando Mendoza. looking like he's going to be one. overall maybe. I don't know. Has that already been. announced? I don't follow this. I as a. rule I get more interested after. everybody's been picked. I'm excited. I. watch the draft but I really don't put. in a lot of. effort. >> The draft analysis. >> until like hey, now who's on the team. and like. who are we dealing with and I think it'd. be cool to do some tape breakdowns of. some of these guys uh.

and where they could be used. We have. been doing more tape breakdown. Maybe do. some offensive line. >> home game. >> guys we're excited about. Maybe some. tight ends or receivers. You game for. that draft? >> game to do a little tight end receiver. breakdown. Let's go. >> Do you think Do you think you'll break. down quarterbacks? >> Yes, 1,000%. >> What's your number one thing you're. looking for in a quarterback? Accuracy? >> Does he drink beers? >> Dude, I will say this. So So seriously, I know you're joking around a little. bit. >> Just a little bit. >> But here's the thing. So Marcus Spears,

my good friend with ESPN, Swagu said. to be like a great quarterback, you got. to be the guy. And he said it very apparent at one. point and. he definitely needs to be able to throw. the ball well as well. What do you think. it is about quarterbacks in particular? Like why that means more at it. You know. what I mean? >> I think it's not necessarily the beers. >> just so you know we're saying having. beers. We're joking about having beers. Although it is kind of true. It's more. about like. >> The camaraderie that happens.

The effort to be hanging outside of the. facility. Exactly. >> Yes. Why is that so much more important. at that position? Is it because you're. in charge of communicating with all. these pieces and like choreographing it. all together? Like why is it a. quarterback that it seems like it's more. important than others? >> I don't know. I think and this is where. it's not always about the beers. It's. about just being a guy that wants to be. around your teammates, wants to be. around the people in the building. outside of the building. And I think.

getting getting that chemistry, understanding who the people are, that becomes like. one of like the. how do I want to put this? I guess I've. never even thought of it in a in a way. like this. When you spend that time and. you make that effort to know somebody. that much more, you play a little harder. for the guy. You listen to you listen to. a little bit more what he's saying. You. understand a little bit more to you what. he's saying to another degree. And I. think I think that's just, you know, the. camaraderie that comes with sports. When.

when a team's at the end of the season. is hoisting the Lombardi, that team. feels like one. Everybody on that. [ __ ] podium holding that [ __ ]. Lombardi up feels like they're passing. it to a brother. Feels like they're. passing it to a extended relative. And I. think those teams, Seattle Seahawks, you. could tell how they played the [ __ ]. game that all those guys loved each. other. And the teams that I've been on. that have been the best, maybe not have. had the the most talented position on.

the field at every single position, but we [ __ ] loved each other. We knew. how to [ __ ] play together and and we. fed off of each other in that regard. And it's those and then we say beers, I'm going to keep saying beers. It. doesn't necessarily mean beers, but it's. those [ __ ] beers you have outside of. the facility that brings everybody a. little bit closer. And you need to have. as a team an opportunity. to create those moments. >> Like I've gone on teams too where like. it's like, "Oh, we're going to go to. like an escape room." And don't get me. wrong, I love escape rooms. I don't feel. like I'm like getting anywhere near the.

bond of going to an escape room. >> to kill myself if you ever [ __ ] put. me in AN ESCAPE ROOM. >> [laughter]. >> I'M PROBABLY NOT EVEN GOING TO JUMP I'M. LIKE, "ALL RIGHT, I'll see you guys in. the office next week.". >> This is why the This is why San. Francisco didn't draft you cuz you don't. like escape rooms, Travis. >> Yeah, that That was Washington, but yes. >> Yeah. >> Sorry, sorry, sorry. This is what it. would be with Jordan Reed instead. >> Now they just said. 30 top 30 draft picks in a escape room. >> Escape [laughter] room. Can he MAKE IT OUT? LIFE OR DEATH SITUATION.

>> OH, he's over at the piano. What a. [ __ ] idiot. [laughter]. >> THAT'S RIDICULOUS. >> LAST thing before we get to our guest, we've got a very special edition of No. Dumb Questions that we've been waiting. to show you. This edition of No Dumb. Questions is brought to you by Allstate. >> Hi Jason and Travis. >> Hi. >> I need some advice. My husband is a. lifelong Jets fan. And I need advice because I just found. out I'm pregnant. And [snorts] I don't.

know how to prepare my kid for a. lifetime of disappointment. >> LOVE YOU. >> OH, CONGRATS, BABY. >> [applause]. >> THAT IS AWESOME. >> YEAH, MAN. SO ANY advice on preparing a. kid for a lifetime of Jets fandom? >> that I give everybody is don't listen to. anybody that wants to give you advice. >> Awesome. >> Yeah, no. Every kid's different. You'll. figure it out. You're a smart guy. >> so. >> What. do you know, sex [ __ ] How early.

>> We have to hold this. We can't like tell. people, but I wanted to tell you guys in. person. >> This is awesome, dude. Are you kidding. me? I'm always like 3 days late on like. figuring out what the [ __ ] JUST. HAPPENED. >> [laughter]. >> MY BROTHER, WHEN HE TOLD ME ABOUT his. first born. >> it [clears throat] said my husband is a. Jets fan, I knew who it was. >> [laughter]. >> Hilarious. I'm over here opening a humidor and. there's like two boots and I'm like, why. the [ __ ] are there like baby socks?

AND THEN I look up at Carly, I'm like, thanks for the humidor, [clears throat]. but what the [ __ ] are these? Congrats, dude. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> That's awesome. >> Yeah, so you find out in a week? >> Find out in a week, but we're having. >> That's awesome. >> Yes. >> Congrats, dude. Very cool. Very cool. >> Yeah. >> Uh make sure you eat during I mean we. have already shared this. >> Yes, yes. >> But yeah. >> And bring a fan. >> Well, I mean if you like fans, yes. I. don't know what you kind of sleeping you. are, but yes. >> Yes, I run hot. >> There you go. Then bring the fan. >> And we're good. >> All right. >> Thanks, guys. >> [applause].

>> AWESOME STUFF, MAN. >> LET'S GO. >> YEAH. >> [screaming]. [laughter]. >> CONGRATS, JAKE. CONGRATS, EM. >> THAT'S RIGHT. Congrats and uh so what. should Emily do? Should the baby be. allowed to pick their own team or are. they a Jets fan? That's the question we. want answered. >> Stay strong, Jake. Stay strong, Jake. >> I mean, listen, you the baby's always. the kids always going to pick.

But as a dad, you can influence that. kind of fandom for sure. You just buy. him some Jets things, right? >> Show him Show him the [ __ ] name head. look like back in the day. It was. >> Put some exciting Jets games on from. like 40 YEARS AGO. [laughter]. PUT SOME JOHN CLOWNEY TAPE OUT. >> [laughter]. >> We went to the playoffs in my lifetime.

I will be I will be showing our daughter. those tapes. And she can pretend like. hopefully by the time she's interested. into football, the Jets are good. That's. what I'm hoping for. >> What's the teacher's name again that. introduced you to Jets Eppy? >> Yes. >> Get Get Get teacher Eppy down there. >> Yes. >> to to help out make it full circle. >> Yes. >> Teach another Chatsky generation the. Jets way. >> Yes, we will we will be sworn into. misery for the rest of our our. >> You [laughter] got to think positive. You got to stay positive. You got to. stay positive. >> Next year. Next year's the year. It's.

always the year. I'm going to raise a. young optimist. I can't wait. >> Out of boy. >> Perfect. Perfect. >> Out of boy. That's all you can ask for. Good luck to your Jets on a draft day. >> How is whoa whoa whoa that was so bring. bring Jake back in here. So that was a. while ago. How was how was Emily doing? >> She's doing well. We're we're about halfway through. We. had the anatomy scan earlier this week. which was crazy. But everything's great. She she's a rockstar. I'd bring her in. but she's like actively working still. and doing her job which is. >> [laughter]. >> much more serious than mine. But she's.

doing great. I'm doing whatever I can. and she's doing a lot more. So I I can't. I can't say that I'm like a rockstar but. she absolutely is. >> Give yourself some credit bud. >> Yeah. You're our rockstar. >> Appreciate it. Appreciate it dude. Wishing you the best in a healthy. healthy next couple of months man. >> Thank you guys. Can't wait. I'll keep. you posted. >> All right. Once again this edition of No. Dumb Questions and Jake's first born. child are brought TO YOU BY ALLSTATE. ALLSTATE.

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coming out to Netflix APRIL 24TH, APEX. 92%ERS, PLEASE GIVE A WARM WELCOME TO. CHARLIZE THERON! >> [screaming]. >> NOW, THAT'S THE FLEX. THAT'S THE FLEX. >> OH, THAT'S GOOD. I WAS I was hoping you. would give me a big one like that. I. hear you give other guests big ones. I. was like, I better get a really big. [ __ ] one. >> we're listing them all. >> I would never hold back. >> them all. You were showing off. >> those muscles. This movie is. unbelievable. It's such a flex in. itself. You were doing a lot of the.

stunts, I heard. >> a lot of the action. Yeah, I do all of. the climbing in it is me. Some of the kayaking is not me. I was. not a great kayaker. [laughter]. >> Not a kayaker. >> They shot They shot with these two. Olympic gold medalists in New Zealand. and did all the which the kayak stuff is. great though, right? It's I've never. seen people do stuff like that with a. kayak. These two women were just. unbelievable. But, yeah, I do everything. else I do. Everything else that's in the. movie, I do. >> That's so impressive. >> That's awesome.

>> Or stupid. >> A lot of times those go hand-in-hand. >> going to say I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, DO. you [laughter] think YOU HAVE. >> YOU NEED THE THE stupid and the crazy to. get to greatness. >> go. You got to be just a little crazy. out here. Do you do it for the thrill or. do you do it for the shot or do you like. what's the madness behind wanting to do. all the all the action stuff? >> Because I I think good action movies. work when you're telling the story. through the action. It's not like the. movie stops and you have an action scene. and then the movie picks up again. Yeah. I like action movies where the.

action is part of the story. You you. don't understand the story unless you. actually see the action. And that kind. of physical storytelling I really love. I was a dancer for the first part of my. life and. um I so I was a storyteller that way and. I. when I started making movies it was all. very verbal and great, but then. I really got a chance to do a big movie. called Mad Max: Fury Road and I. >> It's familiar. >> fell in love with. >> Fantastic as well, yes. >> I fell in love with like using my body.

again and so I kind of like made a. a real effort to develop a couple of. projects for myself to do that. So. that's how I think of it. I think of it. as. well, this part of the story we have to. now. tell and it's physical. Like how the. [ __ ] am I going to get up this hill. without him shooting at me and hitting. me? Like how am I going to do that? >> So [ __ ] cool. >> It is physical and it is badass. These. are badass female roles in like the. fullest extent and this one in. particular.

telling the story through the action, you feel like what the character is. going through. It's pretty remarkable. >> My heart's racing with you. >> [laughter]. >> The last scene, I I have like a natural. fear of like heights. So sometimes I get. that, yes. Especially. on the side of like cliffs for sure. Like even just a camera looking out, I'm. in my couch. I know that I shouldn't be. sweating, but I just start sweating. >> It's a visceral movie. >> You know that last climb, the the final. like climb up when I get on the top and. I'm exhausted and everything? That climb.

uh. that end that last bit coming over. we shot that on an actual like a real. face and it was I think more than 60 ft. down and. there was no you couldn't put mats or. anything down. It was a real hang. So. they had to drop me on a on a very, very. thick, secure safety. rope. But, that's all they could put me. on. They couldn't put me on wires or. anything like that because we were just. in the bush. And so, I had to I had to.

This was by far the scariest thing that. I did. And everybody thinks it's the. cliff dive, but I'm like, "No, that was. fun." Even though it was only 6 ft of. water. >> [laughter]. >> Every time I did that cliff dive, I was. like, "I'm getting more sand and sand. into my wet suit. I'm getting closer and. closer to that bottom." But, that last. climb I had to basically get myself. down. So, you see this drop. And I don't. have like a great fear of heights, but. I'm also not like incredibly brave, you. know? I'm like, "This is. probably not very smart.".

>> appropriate fear when you're HANGING 60. FT OVER A CLIFF. AREN'T you just a. little bit crazy enough to do it? That's. That's half the fun, right there. >> Yeah, exactly. I was like, "We've We've. come this far. I have to finish this. now." So, I I'm dropping myself. I'm. trying not to look down. I'm like. climbing and kind of scraping my body. down just far enough so I'm out of the. shot of the camera. And then I have to. on action climb that last bit up, which. is pretty steep and it's overhang. And. >> gosh. >> That was one of the physically the hard.

And I was towards the end of the movie, I was so tired. And I just remember. pulling myself up there the third time, and I just went, "This is [ __ ] insane. Like, this is. [ __ ]. >> [laughter]. >> insane.". And in the in the movie, I kind of have. a bit of a giggle, and that he kept it. in, but that was literally me on the. third take going like, "What the [ __ ]. >> [laughter]. >> am I doing?" Like, this is so crazy. >> It fit very well. Yeah, absolutely. Is a. lot of this accident like that that kind. of that fearlessness that you have to.

find in yourself? Was that a part of. like wanting to be a part of this role. or. >> Yeah, I mean, I like. I like this movie a lot because I. thought that it wasn't contrived at all. It was very straightforward, you know? It was like you have a girl, she goes. into the wild, she meets a guy, he ends. up being a serial killer, and the chase. is on. And I like something about when I. read the script, I loved the simplicity. of that engine that drove it. Um and then I liked the idea of within. that that it could be a two-hander where. you can get into more of the.

psychological warfare or the. psychological action. And like I love. movies like Die Hard. where it's simple. Like you get it. It's. like there's a Christmas party and [ __ ]. goes wrong, you know? [laughter]. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> And I like I love those movies and I. felt the same about this. I was like, "Wow, I just love that, you know, you. got to stay alive, you got to try and. get out of this, and hopefully you do. Good luck. Go.". >> It is a nail-biter every step of the.

way, always on the edge of your seat. It. combines like so many movies in my head. like of great parts of them like. Cliffhanger or like Free Solo, Deliverance. Like I I there's like who. isn't terrified of being in the middle. of nowhere with a bunch of people. playing like banjos and whatnot, but. >> [laughter]. >> No banjos in this one. >> No no banjos in this one, but yeah, it's. amazing how beautiful places can become. the most scary places, right? Places. where people go and hike and they have. these. beautiful like Sunday mornings can end.

up, you know, being where somebody dies. >> You're right. >> It's terrifying. >> Yes. >> I will say this though, Taron Egerton absolutely rocks it with. you. He's awesome as well. The first. time he did his animal noise, did that. [ __ ] you up? Did it like catch you off. off guard? It caught me off guard every. single time he did it. >> Yeah. >> He uh yeah, that was truly frightening. and he came up with that [laughter]. How did like I think a week before we. started shooting because he had this. He He kept saying things like I think of.

him as someone that has like Peter Pan. syndrome and it was such a great way to. look at the character, [laughter] you. know, this like boy who's like trying to. like be a man in nature, but he's just. [ __ ] sick. >> You're doing it, then. You're doing it. You're really doing it. >> Like, look at me. I can get water out of. a tree. Like, okay, whatever. But I I remember we did the first chase. and he was he did one of those bird. sounds and it scared the [ __ ] out of me. [laughter] cuz he. was like, "Am I in. >> Yeah. >> Is somebody really out here chasing me?

What the [ __ ] is that? >> And there's a there's a reaction shot. actually when the first time he does it, when he starts the song and he says, "You you have this song to get away from. me." And then he does the the bird sound. and that is That reaction is I was like, "Fuck me." Like [laughter]. >> I got to get the [ __ ] out of here. I got. to get the [ __ ] out. >> Why are you that good at this? >> He's so amazing in the movie. I think he. brings like a whole new twist to this. you know, I think serial killer movies. are I love them. I'm obsessed with. serial killer movies. Um I think you.

also want to I think because I'm so. obsessed with real serial killers, there's so much variety to pick from, right? It's not always the tropey thing. where, you know, you're telling the. story and this is why and you're trying. to justify or say why he's like likes to. cut women's heads off and we didn't want. to do that story. We really wanted to. just tell a story that's in the moment. It's happening and we're not getting. into, you know, too much of a history. about where he why he's doing all these.

horrible things, which I like as well. because then he become he stays very. scary. You You. You don't understand how. >> I agree. It's scarier when you don't. know why he's doing that. Like, I think. at one point Sasha, like your character, even tries to like say the the I don't. want to give away too much of the movie, but yeah, you try to like get that out. of him or like play on that and he just. he shuts it down right away. Like, "No, I'm just A PSYCHOPATH. THERE'S NOTHING DEEPER HERE. It's not as. deep as you're trying to make it out. Yeah.". >> Yeah, he's like, "But can Can hug you?".

>> [laughter]. >> Yeah, I love that moment too cuz she's. she's obviously all she has left is how. she can psychologically maybe talk. herself out of this situation. And I. love that he doesn't go down that route. Yeah, and that I have to kind of come up. with something else very quick on the on. the fly. I'm so glad you guys love the. movie. I really um. you know. I haven't uh. this is the my favorite favorite movie. I've ever made. >> What? You've made some bangers. I was. like that's just cool to hear.

>> I know. So in 30 years I've made a lot. of movies and I've loved all of them for. different reasons, but there's something. about this movie that the way we shot. it, where we shot it, just the time in. my life, what I I needed to go and find. something where I could just immerse. myself into a world and. and this this movie was everything that. I wanted and then the end result was. everything that I hoped for before we. went to go do it. And so it's really. nice to hear how much you guys are. responding to it too because I [ __ ]. just. >> I loved making this movie so much.

>> That's so awesome. >> [ __ ] it. Very cool. Yeah. I think it's. going to be highly regarded. It comes. out on Netflix coming up here. It's You. did a great job. You should be proud of. it. >> Thank you. That's so nice, you guys. >> You were also a producer on Mindhunter. So you really are just all about the the. the serial killers. >> Yeah, are we watching Dateline every. night or what's the where are we getting. our fix for. this knowledge you're consuming? >> with that? I I I have fallen asleep to. Dateline before. Um yeah, Mindhunter was. a was a story that I heard about when I.

did Monster when I played Aileen Wuornos. who was considered a serial killer. >> Yeah. >> And I kept hearing about this guy John. Douglas, John Douglas. He was the first. behavioral science guy and. he is really the one that came up with. uh profiling um which was a really big. thing that he brought to the FBI and. they really fought it for years because. they were like, "I don't want to hear. about this monster's mom. Like don't. tell me." But he had a way of kind of. looking at the history of these people. and and he could prove and he profiled a.

lot of prolific serial killers actually. through through just knowing more about. them. And so I read one of his books. He. has many books and he's a very very. interesting guy and he just always. stayed with me as. such a fascinating guy because he's like. always in like a nice suit. You know, he. he wasn't like he was like the last guy. that you would imagine would go to. Rikers and want to sit down with serial. killers and know more about them. So he. was a great character. But yeah, we we. did two seasons with David Fincher and I. was just it was one of those things that.

I was very proud of. I absolutely love. what we did with it. And it is. it's a it's a serial killer story that. really very rarely shows you the serial. killer doing the act. It really was more. of the academia behind and how serial. killers real serial serial killers were. they were part of that academia being. found, you know, sitting down with them. That's how they built um their knowledge. for profiling, which I just thought was. fascinating. >> That is fascinating. It's fantastic. Yeah. >> You guys don't like serial killers?

Well, I I like. >> We grew up in Ohio. A lot of them come. from Ohio. So I like trying not to. >> Jeffrey. >> Try not to think about Jeffrey Dahmer. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, yeah. >> It's too close to home. >> That's right. So you guys see it in real life, got it. >> us as a everyday thing. So we try to. stay out of it. >> escaped it. We nearly escaped [laughter]. it. >> Nearly escaped trying to kill each. other. Nice well, for the movie everybody. Netflix April 24th Apex. You got to. check it out. Charlize before we get you.

out of here though, we got we got to ask. some dumb questions to ask you. We have. a dumb little little game that we. we made up and your movie resume is. absolutely incredible. But we want to. know how well you know those movies. based off of some of the comments and. reviews. We think this is a fun little. game and. >> Comments and reviews? >> Yeah. So we're going to read a comment. and you are going to try and tell us. which movie you think that comment is. referencing. >> That is. really hard. >> Hopefully we didn't make it that hard.

for you. Let's Let's see. >> First one is from Myriam. Uh it is I feel like I just got. drop-kicked in the cervix for 120. minutes straight. [laughter]. Which of your movies would elicit that. comment from Myriam? >> It's either It's either. >> by the way. Five stars. >> Uh Atomic Blonde or Tully. >> You got it. Atomic Blonde. SHE KNOWS IT. >> YEAH. >> [laughter]. >> ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT ONE IS FROM UM. Patrick Williams, who also uh gave the.

movie five stars. A few movies in. history have ever whipped quite this. hard. >> god. Uh. >> It could be a number of them. >> Whipped so hard? That doesn't I I'm. There was no whipped. Wait a second. >> Which Which movie do you think you were. whipped in? >> No, you're right. That's the. You read that correctly, Travis. >> That was a tough one. >> Whipped hard. Is I mean, is it Is it Mad. Max? >> Yeah. >> It is Mad Max, indeed. >> There it is. >> Two for two. >> whipped was the the keyword in that one.

>> There was a lot of leather in that. movie, so that's. >> Well, I think they were like whipped. around, whipped around. All right, here. we go. There. From Liam F. Three and a half-star. review. Uh they were in Italy for 24. minutes. >> Oh. Um uh The Italian Job. >> Yes. The Italian Job. That was an easy. one. >> That's a gimme. >> All right, one more, one more. >> From uh Adam Bolt. All sex scenes from. now on should have Al Pacino in the. background cheering for participants.

>> [laughter]. >> Oh my god, that's Devil's Advocate. [laughter]. >> THAT'S AN ALL-TIME COMMENT RIGHT THERE. YES. >> GOD, [laughter] it sounds so wrong. But. now don't you want to kind of see it? Yeah, this is the only way I have sex. these days. Al Pacino is in THE HOUSE. >> [laughter]. >> AL, COULD YOU COME IN HERE, PLEASE? >> AND HE'S LOVELY. He He submits. He. comes. He does it. >> He's a good man. I heard he's a good man. >> [laughter]. >> All righty. Uh we got to ask. You got to.

do the opening ceremony at the Winter. Olympics this year. How was that. experience? >> Oh my god, it was amazing. I I was asked. and I was kind of like, I don't know. I. feel like I'm going to stick out like a. sore thumb and it's such a special. moment for so many athletes who work so. hard. But I really kind of connected to. this this um the idea of just kind of. spreading a little bit of hope, you. know? And I think I I felt like it was a. good stage to maybe do a little bit of. that. I didn't want to go and like feed. anybody medicine. Hopefully I didn't.

But I I'm fortunate enough to come from. a beautiful country with this great man. who has a bit plays a big part in in our. in the freedom of South Africa, Nelson. Mandela. And you just can't go wrong. with a Nelson Mandela quote. >> Nice. >> So it was it was very very very easy on. on my part. I just threw a a dart and. like anyone that it was going to pick. was going to be a good quote. >> Nice. >> It is interesting that that quote was so. many years ago and how relevant it is. today. >> Absolutely. >> an a great experience. It was just.

amazing to be was that close to. something like that, you know? I just. have such respect for athletes. I just. think that the dedication and the hard. work and the discipline that goes into. sports is something to to to really kind. of take your hat off to them about. Like. it's it's like it's a great thing. It's. amazing. >> And the Olympics in particular, like. once every four years, these athletes. get the opportunity to go there and. represent their country. It really is a. special event that takes place on the. national worldwide scale. >> And then you see the smallest thing go. wrong and you're just like.

>> It's because the stakes are so high, right? If it wasn't the four-year thing, it would be fine, right? >> Yeah. >> When those skiers come down and they can. just Oh my Oh my god, Lindsey Vonn. I. was like. >> Yeah, we all rooted for her. Yeah. >> She's a warrior though to go back out. there and at least give it one other. try. >> She's a maniac. When I trained for. Atomic Blonde, I trained with the same. trainer as her at the same gym and I got. to know her a little bit during that. period and she is like I'd show up so.

[ __ ] exhausted. I'm like, what what. the who the [ __ ] do I think I am that. I'm going to come to this [laughter] gym. and like. become a martial arts expert and get. strong enough and then she'd come in and. I was just like, that's my inspiration. Just look at that. Do that. Just do. that. Put your head down. Do that. But. she's so lucky. >> Do you have a favorite event in the. Olympics or anything that that amazes. you the most? >> I I like the ski that skiing is pretty. amazing but I watched a lot of the. figure skating cuz I have two young I. have a teenager, a 14-year-old and an.

11-year-old. So we watched a lot of. figure skating. They were very much into. that. >> That's awesome. >> Which again is the same thing. It's like. that one throw, that one that one missed. land and you're just like, oh, and I was. trying to explain it to my daughters cuz. every time it happened I was like, And they're like, "Mom, it's okay. She's. fine." I was like, "No, she's not fine.". >> no, no. >> She can't do this for another four. years. She's going to be fine. She's young, Mom. It's fine. Don't worry about it. >> [laughter]. >> Well, and they make a mistake and they.

just have to finish their routine. Like. in their head they know it's over. All. this training was done but they're still. going to skate around for another minute. and do the rest of it. Like it's very. admirable in that regard. >> you know you're probably going to lose, right, Travis? But you keep [ __ ]. playing. You got to keep playing. That's. um. >> You got to just love it. >> I just I real admiration for yeah, for. that. With the smile on the face and. they still they're giving the. performance but they know what it is. >> Yeah. Yes, and we at least when we're. out there we have 11 other guys on the.

or 10 other guys on the field with us. going through it together. Like they're. just mono like one person out there at a. time and it's like that's. another level of bravery. >> You guys have had that feeling, right? You've had that feeling where you were. >> Oh, for sure. I lost a Super Bowl to my. brother and it was the worst pain on the. planet. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, no. >> It was a beautiful moment, Jason. We. were both on top of the mountain. together. >> Yeah. It was great. >> He was hanging off the cliff, though. >> [laughter]. >> That's right. That's right. I would have.

That's the time where I wouldn't have. been afraid of the cliff cuz I would. have jumped straight off of it. >> [laughter]. >> THAT'S RIGHT. YOU DID JUST MENTION YOUR TWO DAUGHTERS. I I HAVE four under six right now. Four. daughters. >> How are you talking? How How are you. putting up. >> It's never I don't know if you heard a. second ago there was just something. happening upstairs. [laughter]. I don't really know what. I'm going to. hear about it later. What. Is there any advice? What What do I have. to look forward to? What What should I. do? It was just Travis and I growing up. >> Yeah, it was just us, too.

>> Well, I was an only kid, so the whole. sibling thing to me. when they fight, I actually got worried. Like I was like, am I not doing the. right thing? Like they're going to kill. each other cuz they're both very, very. strong. Like, you know, like they're not. wallflowers and they're they're stubborn. and they're and they're just. firecrackers. And so when they love, they love very hard, but when they. fight, I'm like, oh my god. Like am I. going to go to jail? Like they won't. stop. >> [laughter]. >> They get physical. And so I have to like. call my friends up who My friend was. like, are you kidding me? I had two.

sisters. I almost killed my sister. It's. fine. Like this is normal. >> Nature does this beautiful thing where. you think you're in your worst place. right now so that you can cope with what. you have, but from where I am, I can. tell you that you're in a lovely place. and they're they're still lovely and. sweet and then one day you're going to. walk into their room around 11 and. they're going to just be like, WHY DID. YOU TURN THE LIGHTS ON? >> [laughter]. >> WHAT IS GOING ON? >> LIKE YESTERDAY morning you wanted me to. cuddle with you and and now you're.

yelling at me for turning the lights on? >> Yeah, they just turn into hormonal. nightmares. Like I'm getting my ass. handed to me from the moment that I walk. into the house from. >> [laughter]. >> And all these things are going to serve. them so well in life, but I might not. make it. >> [laughter]. >> We're going to be fine. Yeah, I am the. one holding them back. >> Yeah, I I that is what I'm worried. about. I am terrified about that 11. through high school.

age range. I know it's going to be rough. and they're all going to be so tightly. compact. >> My daughter just kicked me the other. day. My oldest daughter like full on I. was doing a ghost sound to scare her on. purpose and she full on kicked me and. I'm like listen, WE DO NOT WE DO NOT HIT. EACH other but in my head I'm like kind. of love this. >> [laughter]. >> SHE HAD THE RIGHT REACTION. You want. your daughter to kick when somebody does. that. >> That's right. She's got to survive. She's got to survive Apex. If there's a. serial killer after her one day, she's. got to make it. >> [laughter].

>> Mark my words. >> Yeah. >> When they when you when you have the. third one hit 11. >> Yeah. >> you you're going to have days where you. just get in your car and drive around. the block for like [laughter] an hour. It's what I call like a time out. Like I. have to literally just leave the house. right now. >> Put yourself in time out. Nice. >> I'm going to go to the store. ANYBODY. NEED ANYTHING? I'm just going TO. [laughter] GO TO THE QUICK CHECK. >> ALL RIGHT, YOU GOT ONE RULE JASON, DON'T. TURN THE LIGHTS on man. All right, we. had Keanu Reeves on the show earlier. this year. Another one of our favorites.

and is it true you named your dog after. Johnny Utah? >> Yeah, I did. Because I got I adopted him. in Utah. I was shooting a movie in. Monument Valley. >> Nice. >> And stray dog yeah, ended up in my. trailer and I so he was from Utah and I. wanted to do a little throwback and I. love Keanu. He's good friend and I was. like, yeah, how about that? >> That's awesome. >> So I always I always yeah, he always. went by both those names. How cool is. that? >> It's the best. Have you done other movie. names or like character names for pets?

>> No, I have not. My daughters now name all the animals. that we have. So, it's a lot of like. Billy, Bobby, Bibby, Baba, Baba. >> [laughter]. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, nicknames. >> Yeah. >> Nothing but nicknames. >> Tiny little cute names. I'm like, can we. get like a tough name in here? Like I we. have a farm and I we got some working. dogs and I was like, I'm get I get to. name one. I want to name just one dog. and it was. >> What would you What would you name a dog. if you could name it? >> I did name her after a movie. Oh my god,

I'm so tired. >> [laughter]. >> What do you got? >> I just named Ripley. After. >> Ripley. >> Weaver, yeah. Sigourney Weaver's. character in Aliens. >> Very cool. >> That's awesome. That's a bad That's a. badass female character right there. >> We needed a badass name in there because. it was a lot of like Billy, Bobby, Bibby. >> [laughter]. >> We have a Patty and then a what we're. they're trying to call the new one. Freddy and I'm trying to go with. something strong German. It's a German. Shepherd. I'm thinking Gunda, like. Gundol or like It's got to be like a.

picture [laughter] like in a big beer. hall with steins walking through the. >> Oh my god, that's so funny. They like to. put the e on the end on all of them like. to make it cute. So, what you do is they. named one of the dogs Teddy and now I. just call him Ted and it's really cool. I'm like, Ted, let's go, Ted. Like I. just I just don't go and he loves Ted. I. can tell. He likes [laughter] it way. more. Thank god for you. I'm not a. Teddy. Thank you. >> In 2014 you said climbing Mount. Kilimanjaro was on your bucket list. Jason has actually climbed Mount.

Kilimanjaro. Have you done it? Is it. still on the bucket list? >> Yeah, I know I haven't done it because I. have a I have two teenagers. >> [laughter]. >> This is pre-kids. Pre-kids, yeah. >> Wait, what? Tell me the experience. Was. it Was it something that you wanted to. do or was just by chance you were. >> So, a good friend of mine that also. played played NFL, Chris Long, has a. foundation called Waterboys, and they. install wells in Africa and like places. that they need clean drinking water and. whatnot. And one of the things they do. to raise money and awareness around the.

trip, every year, they kind of took a. hiatus, but they did it again this year, is he takes a bunch of uh veterans and. NFL players over to Kilimanjaro, uh. Tanzania, and they. hike on Kilimanjaro. So, he had done it. for a number of years. He had climbed, I. think it at at point four times. >> Wow. >> Like, he's just a complete badass about. it. And we were talking about it. A. couple buddies did it the year before. I. was like, "You know what? I'll go do. it." Thinking naively that it wasn't. going to be that hard. And then just. like got humbled so bad. I mean, just.

like And it's This is like the most. white-collar climb climb like mountain. climb you can do, right? Like, we have. tons of support and like locals that are. helping us up this mountain with like. giving us water and food and tents are. being set up. Like, it's a very. if if you're if it's possible at all to. get my fat ass up this mountain, this. was the way to do it. >> Yeah. >> Still on the last day, uh the summit. day, you get up really early cuz you the. goal is to be at the summit for sunrise,

right? So, you get up at like 12:00 a.m. and you just start hiking. You know you. got a 6 and 1/2 7-hour. >> And complete darkness? Like, just with a. little headlamp? >> Complete darkness. You have the You have. the headlamp uh headlight in front of. you. And the route that we went that. time was very steep. So, you can't even. go straight up. You have to do uh skip. backs, right? You're like going sideways. essentially so that you can go up this. rock face. >> Yeah. >> We finally get there, and then we have. another 2-hour walk around. But, what I.

didn't know is once you get above, I. think it's like the 18,000-ft or. 17,000-ft threshold, you get to a. certain point on Kilimanjaro where. you're no longer able to replace the. oxygen, right? Like, it's a slower It's. not as severe as. >> Everest. >> the other Yeah, the other uh whatever I. forget the name of them, but the other. big summits. >> Yeah. >> Uh but you're up there and as a bigger. guy, you're using more oxygen. So, I was. doing great. Wasn't really having an. issue and then right when I got to the. summit, it hit me like a ton of bricks. >> Did it.

Did it like hit you what how? Like you. were just. >> Just like so fatigued. Like a level and. a little bit dizzy and they tell you. like the moment you get there, you just. want to get down as fast as possible. >> Wow. >> So, I am I am literally like jumping. down the side of the snow. Like I am. bounding and like ski- like skiing down. on my shoes just to get down as fast as. possible. My one buddy Beau is just. seated in the gravel. and he's just sulking because he's so. tired. I'm like, "Dude, where are you. going?" He's like, "MY SHERPA LEFT ME.".

>> [laughter]. >> DID YOU ENJOY THE SUMMIT AT ALL? >> IT was incredible. I mean, you are very. tired, but at that point you put in four. days climbing up it. Uh at least on this. trip we do that. There are people that. climb it much faster, but we um it's. such a highlight of a moment and then on. top of that like Olo Dinata, one of our. teammates, was retiring at the summit. There There's all these wounded warrior. like there's a guy that only had one leg. that climbed it with us, right? Like.

it's a really powerful trip. >> Holy smokes. >> And you still bitched about. >> Exactly. THAT'S THE THING. HE DID IT SO. MUCH EASIER THAN I DID AND I WAS LIKE. >> YOU'VE CHANGED, JASON. You've changed. >> worst part too is then you still have to. go back down. Like we get down from. there, we get down to that base camp and. then you have to go down another however. many thousand feet from there and my. back just started tightening up and it's. it was a grind of a session that I was. not prepared for. >> You're not selling it. >> You're not selling [laughter] it at all.

>> I will say this, knowing you and what. I've I've seen you do in these movies, I. and I think you would absolutely crush. it and I told everybody I would not do. it ever again, but there is something. where when you go through something that. taxing and that intense, I would go with. my daughters cuz I think it's a It's a. transformative experience if you've. never done anything like that. And. Kilimanjaro is for sure. like there's nothing more like symbolic.

than like. like overcoming struggles and like. adversity than like climbing a mountain. getting to the top, right? That is a. very symbolic thing. And it feels like. Kilimanjaro is like the most. approachable of all the major summits. for novice climbers. So, if you're. thinking about it, I highly recommend. it. It's awesome. I feel like I just. used up all of our time to talk to you. talk to you the story. So, I. I'm going to stop talking now. >> my my next trip. So, yeah. >> Yeah, you'll enjoy it. And also hate it.

>> [laughter]. >> Which is. uh how you love. Uh. you have to hate it a little. >> There you go. >> I I understand the whole like, you know, wanting to do something with your. daughters. I'm always looking for. something like that that I can go and do. cuz otherwise I'll just end up living in. a Sephora for the rest of. >> [laughter]. >> I'm like, I must get out of Sephora. And. I just took my My oldest girl is very. like she's a scaredy-cat. Like she's. very pensive, you know, she's all which. I love cuz I'm like, you're going to be.

safe. I'm not going to worry about you. when you leave the home. And then the. little one's a daredevil. Like just. completely crazy. But I spent spring. break with them and I was trying to find. something like what you were talking. about that we could do together that. would be like an like we'd get to the. end of it with an accomplishment. We did. that. >> Yeah. >> And so, we we went to Hawaii and I found. this um ziplining company. And. >> Ooh. >> So, I was like I didn't tell them cuz I. knew they would just say no. So, when we. landed, I said, "We're going to play. game. Everybody's going to say one thing. and we all have to do that one thing.". And so, mine was ziplining.

>> Nice. >> The fear that my It was and it was. pouring rain. It could not have been. more miserable. We ended up so high. It was like eight. zip lines to get down. Scary. Like. really. And you're tied to a rope and you can't. go backwards, you can't go forwards. I. was like this is going to go so wrong. and my oldest daughter didn't want to. wear the rain coat cuz it didn't look. cute. SO SHE'S IN [laughter] HER. >> OF COURSE.

>> DRIPPING DRIPPING WATER and I'm like you. should have put the rain coat on. But we got to the end of it and it was. really it's you can't describe it. Like. it's a it's so much work as a parent to. do these things but at the end you're. just like wow, we got in the van and. everybody was laughing about it. >> Nice. >> The hard work that it is to get you guys. up here and look at you now. You've got. a wet sweat sweatshirt on and you're. still happy. [laughter]. >> There we go. It's it's weird. It's like. the even in football like the misery. that you go through with your teammates.

>> [laughter]. >> What you talk about the most? Like you. talk about camping in 100 degrees and. you're all out there sweating and hating. life but it somehow brings you closer. together. It's weird. >> Exactly. >> We got one last question for you. >> We will stop taking up your time. >> we have to know. We ask all of our. guests what was their welcome to their. profession moment. So what was your. welcome to Hollywood moment? >> I it sounds like like a written. moment in like a very cheesy Lifetime.

original movie but I landed in at LAX. and I knew nothing about Los Angeles. As. a matter of fact, I thought I was. getting a one-way ticket to Hollywood. and when the ticket came I was like it. said Los Angeles. I was like GOD DAMN. IT. >> [laughter]. [gasps]. >> IT'S APPROPRIATE. THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE. RESPONSE. >> YEAH. I grew up on a farm. I did not. know any of this stuff. So I was I drove. in a taxi from LAX and I just remember I.

stayed He took me to this hotel called. the Farmer's Daughter, which now is a. really nice little hotel, um very. boutique-y, but back when I stayed there. it was by rented by the hour. I was like. >> [laughter]. >> I can afford this. And when we were when. the way he I would he must have taken me. a scenic route because it's not the. natural route to get to this place, but. I just remember on one of the roads I. actually saw part of the Hollywood sign. >> Nice.

>> And I just went. It was like. >> Yeah. >> And I was like. I'm here I'm going to make it. >> You're doing it. Hell yeah. >> That's awesome. >> That's so awesome. >> I called my mom that night and I was. like I saw the Hollywood sign. I was. very proud of myself. It was a moment. where I definitely felt like oh, now I'm. in Los Angeles. >> Yeah. >> That's all right there. That's all right. there. >> That's awesome. And to be honest I. I can attest like you it's hard to find. that I hear you saying he took you the. scenic route. It's hard to actually find.

the sign if you don't know where it is. or exactly what view you can get to see. it. It's uh so but seeing it is magical. and I for you to be going to LA for the. first time and seeing that um in the. start of the career. had to be epic. >> It might have been the route of a serial. killer. NOW [laughter] THAT I'M HERE. I LIKE YEAH, IT WAS A VERY. >> JUST TAKING YOU THE SCENIC ROUTE. DON'T. ASK QUESTIONS. JUST. >> [laughter]. >> BUT THEN but then interestingly enough. somewhere on the trip you must have. decided against it cuz it didn't He.

didn't kill me. So I wonder what I did. in the car that made him go uh not this. one. I'm going to take her back to the. hotel. >> [laughter]. >> So thank you, man who drove me serial. killer, for not killing me. >> [laughter]. >> Well, we thank you. Congrats on another. amazing movie. Can't wait to see how. everyone just raves over this one and. best of luck to you in the future on on. all the other movies that you have. coming. Thank you so much for the. stories and your time and uh you the. best. >> Thank you so much, you guys. Thank you. And I'm so happy you love the movie. Thank you.

>> Yes, absolutely. >> All right, bye. >> I will say, sorry, you shouted out the. best book. You shouted out the. Mindhunter book. >> Oh, oh, you love that book? >> I have it right here. I [laughter] have it right here. YOU SAID THAT AND I WAS LIKE, THAT'S ON. THE [ __ ] SHELF. I KNOW WHERE that is. >> Oh my god, I thought you just like. Google searched it and like slipped a. note or something. >> We got dog ears in this bad boy. >> Brendan's our resident serial killer, actually. He's just [laughter]. >> Listen, you want to go see You want You. want the LA tour? I'll take you on the. LA tour. You want to see some movie.

[laughter] murder houses? I'll take you. Don't tempt me with a good time. >> I feel like I need to do a whole other. podcast with you. >> Come on back. Yes. [laughter] Come on. back anytime. It'll be 4 hours long and. it'll be just me talking about like. Zodiac and it'll be something for. [laughter] everybody. >> That's so amazing. You're You're. definitely my favorite out of the three. now. >> Let's [ __ ] go. >> [laughter]. >> BRENDAN SWOOPS IN. SHUT UP. I CAME IN RIGHT AT THE END. ALL. RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT, THAT'S IT FOR OUR. CONVERSATION with Charlize Theron. >> She's so bad ass.

Godly. >> She really is. So many badass films, too. >> Well, once again, that convo was brought. to you by Reese's. >> And that wraps up another EPISODE OF NEW. HEIGHTS BROUGHT TO YOU BY LIQUID I.V. Thank you to Charlize Theron. Check out. Apex on Netflix April 24th. Make sure. you subscribe to New Heights channel on. YouTube or wherever you get your. podcasts. >> That's right. Once again, New Heights is. a Wondery show. Follow the show on all. social media at New Heights show with. one S for uh fun clips throughout the. week. We're going to have a bunch after. that Charlize Theron interview, man.

She's a badass. You guys are badasses. Thanks to the New Heights production. team for being a [ __ ] badass. and uh thanks to the 92%ers. We'll see. you guys next week. Good luck in draft. day. >> [music]. >> I literally thought you were uh making. muscles. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, don't mind me. Here's my muscles and my pit stains. >> This is how two football players. podcast. They flex at you for 10 minutes.

and then. >> you were kissing. Yeah, my god. Okay. All right. >> We show our pit stains and we show our. muscles. >> [laughter].