Michael Strahan on Championship Sunday, Super Bowl Picks, Sack Records & Life After the NFL | EP 177

That's going to be a fun matchup right. there. >> Yeah. >> Do young up and coming. Get both of them. at the top of their game right now. I'm. excited for that match up. >> You know what's so funny, man? We're. we're watching the game and JSN gets. catches a touchdown. How's like, Michael, it doesn't look like he's. working. And I'm like, how in the world. if you're going to cover anybody, that's. the dude. How's he get open? And you. know what Howie said to me? He goes, that's the same thing we say about. Kelsey.

WELCOME BACK TO NEW HEIGHTS, ladies and. gentlemen, boys and girls. A wonderry. show brought to you by Xfinity. They got that best deal ever 5year. thing. We're going to talk about it. later. We are your hosts. I'm Travis. Kelce. This is my big brother Jason. Kelsey rocking the same hoodies from the. old New Heights Clubhouse uh out of the. University of Cincinnati Cleveland. Heights alum. Shout out to Cleveland. Heights. Well, Cincinnati alum and. Cleveland Heights alum. Uh, subscribe on. YouTube plus wherever you get your.

podcast and follow the show on all. social media at New Heights Show with. one s mentioned the Kelsey clubhouse. That's uh.com if you want to check out. anything Kelsey, anything new heights. Jason, why don't you tell everyone. that's listening what we have coming up? We got a great episode as we do every. week. That's right. We're going to touch. a little bit of that championship Sunday. as well as look ahead to Super Bowl 60. Damn, Super Bowl 60. >> Yeah. You know what else I like? Michael. Strahan IS HERE.

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defensive end from Texas Southern. University. HE IS A SEVENTIME PRO. BOWLER, SIX TIME ALLPRO, 2001 defensive. player OF THE YEAR, TWOTIME EMMY WINNER, A PEABODY AWARD WINNER, A SUPER BOWL. CHAMPION, AND A MEMBER OF THE PRO AND. COLLEGE FOOTBALL HALL OF FAME. >> DAMN, >> YOU KNOW HIM FROM $100,000 PYRAMID, GOOD. MORNING AMERICA, FOX NFL SUNDAY. HE'S. LITERALLY BEEN TO SPACE. HE IS STILL THE. RECORD HOLDER FOR THE MOST SACKS IN A 16. GAME SEASON. 92. PLEASE WELCOME MICHAEL STRA.

>> I ain't going to lie, man. That was the. best introduction I literally I say I've. ever had. I've ever had. And honestly, I didn't. realize I did all that [ __ ]. >> That's the best part. When you got this. many things, it's easy to forget. But. man, you've been on some incredible. things, Mike. >> Yeah, it's been fun, man. It's been fun. >> What's your favorite thing on that that. list right there? >> What's your most prize for Super Bowl? Super Bowl. >> It's always, you know what, player of.

the year, all that stuff and Pro Bowls. is great, but as you guys know, when you. win a Super Bowl, it's like. >> you can celebrate that together with the. guys. And I'm still on a group chat with. all the guys on the Dline. Every day. we're hitting each other up. It's either. question, mean, support each other, you. know, whatever. encourage each other or. just flat out cracking jokes on each. other like we did in the locker room. So, >> hey, who's the biggest character in that. group chat? Every group chat has one guy. just like, "All right, here he goes.

again.". >> Oh, man. You know, OC, do you know how. OC's a trip? Cuz OC lives in London now. He does the NFL, he does the NFL broadcast. very very. proud of him cuz he's he's in London. doing an NFL show and he's won the. equivalent of an Emmy in London for. years years ago u for the show. So it's. equivalent of somebody here in the US. winning an Emmy for cricket. We'd be. like what did that. >> so OC been amazing. >> but I've noticed every time I talk to.

him or I listen to him all of a sudden. he's got this deep English accent. And. I'm like, >> "Oh, no. You went over there. It just. got a little just. No, you went to Troy. YOU WENT TO TROY. YOU LIVED IN ATLANTA." YO, MAN. >> YEAH. YEAH. >> WELL, he the character all the guy the. characters in their own right. >> That's great. I love that. >> Listen, the Dline is notorious for being. the the one room in the entire building. that just has just one on top of another.

top of another. just different. lifestyles, different but different. dudes and just some of the funniest guys. ever, man. I don't know if you spent a. lot of time with Chris Jones, but he is. one of my favorite people of all time. I. guarantee you he would he would light up. that group chat uh like no one else, man. >> But I tell you what, man. I I I got a. chance to see Chris this season. We came. to your guy when you guys played um the. Eagles in and at on the road. We were in. Kansas City and I got a chance to see. Chris after the game and I tell you.

what, man. I love the dude. I wish I could have. played with him. >> I'm telling you, man. >> He's unblockable and knowing Spags. defense because Spags helped me win a. Super Bowl. >> Oh, yeah. >> I would love Oh, man. I love to play. with Chris. >> Let's get into it, man. I got to ask. you. You already mentioned my guy, Coach. Spags. Man, he's one of my favorite. guys. One, because he's it's so. challenging. Obviously, we get to work. with him throughout the year in in the. off seasonasons and in training camps. and stuff like that. I get to experience. what it feels like the frustration of. how much he has in that in that that.

that defensive playbook and everything, but he's also one of the best humans. that I've ever met in my life and off. the field, on the field, he's one of the. best motivators. Um, tell me tell me, you got any good Spag stories that. aren't out there uh from from your days. playing for him? >> Well, I would tell you a Spags is one of. the nicest humans. His wife, Maria, they. bake cookies for the team. >> Yeah. I had some of the best lemon cello. I've ever had from from the Spags. household. >> But the thing is, the crazy thing is I.

have no bad stories on here because he's. such a good guy. But I will tell you. this, the year my last year in the. league, we start out 0 and2. We gave up. 80 points in two games against the. Cowboys the first week and I think 45. Then we gave up 35 against Green Bay the. second week. >> And Spaxs comes into the meeting room on. you know guys, you think you going to. show up at that meeting room, you going. to just let everybody have it. You're. like, "Oh, we're garbage. We going to. hear how garbage we are.". >> Dude walks in and goes, "Hey, I want you. guys to know just trust what we're.

doing. Trust the defense. There's not. one of you that I would trade for. anybody else out there in the league.". Now, I know he was lying, >> but. I had a few guys I'm like, "Coach, got. no, but we he made us believe in like, okay, just stick with him. Believe in. the system. Believe in this dude. Believe in each other." and we just. turned it around, man. And all that I. contribute all that to Spags and making. us feel good when we should have. Most. coaches make you feel bad. >> I do got to ask you cuz one of the.

things that stands out with Spags is his. blitzes, right? He can give it from. every single direction. Zero zone blitz, man pressures, games, all that stuff. But I know as a defensive lineman, that's not always what you all want to. do, right? Especially when you're the. great Michael Strahan, sack leader. Coach, don't don't HAVE ME SLAYING AND. ANGLING. JUST let me beat the crap out. of this tackle right here. What What did. you feel like playing in that system? I'm assuming he probably called less. blitzes with you on the field. Probably. didn't need to bring more than four. quite a while. >> Yeah, there you go.

>> You know what? I'll be honest with you. I I've always been a nice guy, man. I. really am. >> Yeah. >> But in the days of football, I was a. different nice. Right. >> There you go. There you go. You know, we. all have a switch. We're nice guys. People know we're nice. But it's a. switch. Like I get out there and I'm a. whole different thing. >> Got to be. after the survival. I'm try I. got I got guys like you too. I can't I. You're trying to kill me. I gotta. survive, right? >> Yeah. >> So, I I I hated the slants and stuff. Wasn't my thing. But I would do. whatever. But don't make me drop.

>> Even though I do have a few picks in my. career, one against Washington for a. touchdown. But don't make me drop. Why. you Why you dropping the best pass. rushers and you got these little light. in the ass dudes running in there. getting rejected from the club? >> I mean, dudes are getting thrown out of. there like don't come in the club with. fake IDs. >> Yeah, but I just didn't like dropping. I. love pass wrestling. You know what I. love most though? I love playing the run. more than I love playing pass.

>> Really? That's surprising. I don't see a. lot I don't hear a lot of DNS say that. What's So what why do you say that? just. because it was more like uh toughness, more like inserting your will. Like what. is. >> 100%. And I I I felt like it was. toughness. It was inserting your will. It was literally I can take the life out. of a guy. I look in your eye and I can. see if you wanted to be there or not. And that was important to me. I wanted. to look in your soul. I wanted to take. your soul. And I was going to just go. every play. I just looked at it like.

this. You and me every play. I ain't. going to quit. Let's see what you gonna. do. And when we turn on that tape. tomorrow and we watching it, I will not. be embarrassed in front of my teammate. >> I just will not. >> We got we got to just jump into it, man. My guy Greg Olsen, man. He told us an. amazing story last week uh on our on our. episode with him about his welcome to. the NFL moment where they decided to run. power as a rookie uh at Michael Straan.

We had a home game my rook of year in '. 07 and Michael Strahan is playing like a. >> I don't know if he was in a four-point. stance, but it felt like he was like an. eightpoint stance. >> And he was playing he was playing six. technique, right? So he was like on my. head, >> but he. >> the worst. And like you go too far. inside and he just caves you down. You. stay on his outside shoulder and he just. presses you back. And I'm like I'm going. to bring everything I got. >> Everything I got. I'm bringing it. Well, he like two gaps me. He locks me out,

>> presses me, head in the he takes me into. the fullback into the backside pulling. guard. >> Oh no. >> And like and I was like I ran off the. field. >> Swab the hole. >> I guess you threw him across the line of. scrimmage onto the other a gap. Do you. remember this play? >> I do not. >> How did I say there's no test? >> No, that was just a regular Sunday. You. know what I'm saying?

YOU KNOW, I I don't remember the play, but I did have this thing where my first. coach in the league, Earllegged, rest in. peace to Earl Legged. He was Howie. coaches coached with the Raiders back in. the day. And that's why Howie and I have. always been so tight. But Earl, man, he. worked us more than anybody. I couldn't. survive more than two or three years in. the league without him because he taught. me technique that lasted my whole. career. And it and I just couldn't rely. on being athletic. But Earl had this. thing. He said, "If any tight end in. this league blocks you, son, you should. be ashamed of yourself.".

>> So, anytime I saw a tight end, it was. like, I'm I'm going to literally I got. to kill you. Like, I got to murder you. right now. I cannot do that. >> I got to watch the coach. He And Earl. would talk bad to you. Oh, he talks so. bad to you. >> Oh, Kirk, you got to fight him. I can't. go out there. I'm too old to fight FOR. YOU, SON. HE WOULD SAY SOME other things I cannot. say on this podcast that get me in. trouble. >> I love some good old ball coach, man.

>> It literally made every tight end I. lined up against made me like like. salivate because I knew I had to. embarrass him. I couldn't be be be dealt. with like that. But I'm glad Greg. remembered it. That's what's important. >> There you go. That's right. >> But I love Greg either. He's the best, too, by the way. >> Oh, the best. You know it. >> Yeah. >> That's too funny, man. I had to ask you. about it. We mentioned earlier that uh. you're the you're the sack leader for 16. games. You made the comment obviously. congratulated Miles Garrett and gave him. his flowers for because unbelievable. feat that he he accomplished as well.

being the sack leader for 17 games. But. have you heard the claim that uh that. Bubba Baker, Al Bubba Baker actually has. the sack record from his rookie season. in 1978? >> Okay, I dispute that. My question is what what would Michael. Straan be doing to an offensive lineman. in 1978? Oh man. Well, at 7 years old, I'd be getting out there. getting beat up. But you know what? He. he might I don't They didn't keep the.

records until later, which reason I. disputed is not for myself. When I was. coming up, man, one thing that I loved. is that I guys I admired like Bruce. Smith, Reggie White, um de Chris Dolman, Dexter Manley, Charles Man, every time I. got a chance to meet these guys, they. like took me under the wing. >> and and was really great to me, man. I. couldn't believe it. But the one guy, the older of all of them was Deacon. Jones. >> Deacon Jones, man. Look at.

>> that head slap, baby. Look out. >> Exactly. And the ears are ringing right. now. When you said his name, my ears. run. It was crazy. This Deacon swore to. me he had a hund sacks in a season. >> I'm telling you, >> he swore he had 100 sacks, man. >> Oh, that's [ __ ] ridiculous, man. >> He swore by it. He's basically like, I. don't even know what the debate is. I. had 100.

Sometimes talking to those old school. football guys, man, is just the [ __ ]. best, man. >> Oh, yeah. And you know, and even Bruce. Smith is one of my favorites and like my. brother, man. And and Bruce really took. me under his wing. Play a lot of golf. with Bruce and just spend a lot of time. with him. And Bruce orchestrated the 100. sack club. So at the Super Bowl, you get. like all the guys that have at least 100. sacks get together. And so Bruce gets in. front of the room and Bruce goes, "Hey, I'm glad everybody showed up at the 100. sack club and everything else. I was. going to do a 200 sack club, but I. didn't want to be here by myself.

>> It only took you 25 years. >> We didn't want to play that long. Damn. it. >> Right. >> That's too funny. >> You're naming all these greats. I got to. know who What's your Mount Rushmore of. sack leaders? Like Mount Rushmore of. defensive lineman getting after the. quarterback? >> Gez. I mean, they were interior guys and. there were outside guys outside. outside. Outside. guys, outside guys, I would say Bruce.

Smith. >> I would say Reggie White. I would say. Miles Garrett. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> man, >> put yourself on if you want. Feel free. >> You know what? I'll put myself honestly. in the top two or three of allound. defensive ends ever to play. >> Okay? >> Cuz I played the run as well as I played. the pass. It wasn't like hit a running. back if he happens to have the ball. going to the quarterback. So, I'll put. myself in that realm. But as far as my. whole thing is I started football late, man. I mean I played one year in high. school in Germany. I wasn't Yeah. I.

wasn't player football. >> So you were in Germany all the way up. until you were 18. >> Yeah. Yeah. Seven. 17. 17. And so I came. over and play one year. My dad was like. going to get a scholarship. And I think. if you don't tell your kids what they. can't do, they could do anything. And my. dad cuz like it was guaranteed you're. going to get a scholarship. Next thing. you know, I get one scholarship to Texas. Southern University. I was like, "Dad, I. don't know." Oh, he's like, "Well, you. know, it's free. That's where you go.".

>> And then he's like, "When you make it to. the pros and when you do this and when. you do that." So, my dad was always that. when, not an if guy, which was. important. Like, I do that with my kid. Like, when win, when win, never if, never give doubt. So, I came to this the. Giants. I mean, I was at TSU, man. I was. just basically relying on athletic. ability, just running and working until. a guy got tired and then I'd make plays. But I had no first three or four years I. didn't know the game of football. You. know, I was always behind. So I always.

wonder what it would have been like had. I had the opportunity to like learn. football at the earlier age. But I'm. kind of glad I didn't because it always. made me interested. Always. I'm always. interested in football now. Like I watch. stuff now. I'm still interested in the. game. I didn't beat myself up. I feel. better now than I felt when I retired. >> So that's amazing. >> Yeah. I got I got lucky. I got really. lucky. >> That's awesome, man. when you came over. when you were uh 17 18 I believe you you. were with Art Straan right your uncle. >> Oh my uncle. Yeah, I stayed my uncle.

>> And he played he he played a little bit. in the league, right? Did you learn like. at least the basics and understanding. you know the old put your forehead right. through the chin or. >> did I man I came over to stay with my. uncle. I didn't know really I was green. If there was a color deepest green you. could find that was how green I was. My. uncle would take me in the front yard. cuz he played seven years in the league. Oilers, the Falcons, all that stuff. He. would take me in the front yard, man. He. would just be slapping me around. This. is how you This is how you use your arm.

And you know, my uncle's like six, seven, country ass strong, big old. hands, man. He just beat this teenager. up in the yard. >> But hey, I had I went through it. Now I. look back, I can laugh at it. Uh be it. at TSU, uh Walter Highmith, my head. coach whose son Alonzo Highmith, the. first round pick out of University of. Miami back in those Jimmy Johnson days. His dad was tough. He would make us run. gassers in, you know, Texas, 100. something degrees. The devil leaning. against the goal post waiting for you to.

pass out at that high. >> and he would say, "We're going to run. until somebody turns in their. scholarship." No, give up YOUR. SCHOLARSHIP. OH, >> PASSING OUT. I would have fell out. I. would just said, "Okay." But no, T give. up the scholarship and we had and we. thought he was joking. Man wasn't. joking. I mean, this dude was a beast. But when I came to the pros, it was. like, "You can't kill me. I've been to. hell already.". >> Yeah. Right. You guys are arguing. You. don't have shoes. I wore the same pair.

of cleats in practice in the game every. season for for the whole season. I get. new pair of shoes every week. This is. crazy. >> You are bringing up something. No, but. this is this is something I've thought. about where, you know, there's so much. sports science and like load managements. and like stuff now where I I feel like. if you've never pushed yourself to the. extremes, how do you really know how far. you can go? Yeah. >> Right. And 100% I when I went to. college, I used to think I knew what. hard work was. And then a guy put me.

through a workout in the weight room, Jordan Roth, and I couldn't even lift my. shoulders above my my hands above my. shoulders by the end of one of those. workouts. And I was like, bro, what is. this? I I've never worked hard in my. life. I thought I was working hard. I. don't know what hard work was. I think. that's so important for young players or. even something you got to work out as an. adult, too. You got to push yourself, man. Right. >> And the harder I found that I pushed. myself playing football, the easier the. game became. The more I studied, the. easier the game became. I could I would. be the last one to get my stance because. I'm just looking and look at formations. going, I know they ain't going to run.

this way or they're only going to be. able to do this out of that. like you. knew and as you got older, if you really. paid attention, became the student, the. game slowed down and became easier. But. you got to work at it. And the harder. I've worked in sports, like now. everybody go, you work so hard, you're. here, you're there. I'm like, you don't. understand what hard work was when. you're in training camp and you guys. know two a days and you got to put those. wet paths that are still wet from the. day before on to run to somebody who you. don't want to feel like running into. again and fighting for the next two. hours. You're laying on the ground to.

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podcast into one document and figure out. where it goes a lot faster. Usually when. we put together the show, we have to dig. through a lot of articles, game notes, box scores, uh, highlights, screenshots. of tweets, whatever Jake was mad about. the Jets doing that week. It's a lot of. stuff that goes into making the show. And honestly, the segment that's. toughest to put together is stamp of the. week. There's actually a lot more. nominees that we never really even show. you guys. We look through everything. from game highlights, what's going. around the internet. I watched a bunch. of clips of people in Philadelphia going. crazy in the snow. That was my personal.

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together. >> That's right. Learn more at adobe.com/do. thatwithacrobat. >> All right, before we touch on the uh. more of your career, Mike, we want to. talk. It's Championship Sunday. Let's. talk about currently. All right, we got. the Super Bowl coming up. Let's talk. about Patriots defeating the Broncos. What' you think of the game? >> Oh man. Oh, a Patriots Broncos game. I. thought um I thought the Broncos should. have won the game. >> I won't lie. >> Yeah, I felt like the Broncos should. have won the game. I felt like Houston.

should have won the game. Houston had. some bad bounces that went their way on. some strap strip fumbles and all that. stuff. >> If they recover a couple of them. fumbles, Will Campbell, everybody wants. to get on him. I give him a couple. sacks. He fell on those two fumbles and. saved them. And I know nobody tries to. play bad, but CJ Stroud just need to. give him something, man. You have to. give him something. And I felt bad for. the kid because I like the kid, but in. big moments like that is when you really. need to show up. Like everyone talks. about Eli Manning's record is 150, 150, whatever it may be. But in the biggest.

of moments, that cat showed up. >> He always showed up in the biggest. moments. And that is the mark of a of of. a real like um that's how you you get. over the hump and really like get. yourself out there is the big moment you. rise up. But against Denver, I thought. that they should have kicked that field. goal gone up. >> I know. Early on. >> Early on. Take the point. >> You knew it was going to be a lowscoring. game. Just take it. >> Yeah. I But I don't I don't get these. off these coaches now because fourth. down now is automatic. Go for it more. than it's not. And I get analytics, but.

you got to feel the team. You got to. feel the situation. You got to, you. know, I got to back a quarterback and. this weather is weather is awful. >> I felt that naked coming from as soon as. they thought about, you know, I mean, because I believe they called a timeout. to think about it. >> Yep. >> I I I felt it from that point. I'm like, man, they're about to run a little play. action boot. >> Yeah. And I and I felt bad for Shawn. Payeyton cuz Shawn Peyton coached me. back in 2000 or something like that. I. love Shawn and I talked to him day. before the game. Very confident what. they were doing. But in the playoffs, I.

felt like just take the points, man. take the point, put pressure on on on. New England, especially on the road, to. beat you with a great defense like they. have. >> And their defense have been playing. great up until that point, right? Like. it was just like, man, >> and the Patriots defense ain't bad. So, you need to take the points that you can. freaking get. >> when you can. Yeah, I hear you. >> And I think Seattle game was great. I. mean, that that was a great game. The. Rams had opportunities. That fourth down. stop. >> on the go, your fourth and goal, red. zone, >> the muff punt,

>> that really was kind of big turning. point of the game. Even though the Rams. came right down and answered, but I I'm. happy for Sam Darnold. >> So happy for that dude, man. >> Yeah, I played in New York. It's hard, man. He comes in here the third overall. pick, doesn't go well, gets beat down. mentally, physically, and then five. teams in eight years, and everyone. thinks he's washed. And then he goes to. Minnesota, plays well last year, but. then they get beat in the playoffs, and. they're like, he's done. This guy can't. play. Why Seattle pay him all this. money? Well, now you see why. I mean, it's been awesome to see the resurgence. and to see him answer the critics again.

Like, you're always rooting for the guys. that have been down and out and to. answer that. >> His ability to take that heat from. everybody and still be the calm, cool, collected cat that he is, the confident. guy he is in his abilities, man. I'm. [ __ ] I've always been a big fan of. his, man. >> Um, and it's cool to see him finally get. it, dog. But I I'm with you. I thought. the Broncos had a really really [ __ ]. good chance even with the backup Stam. in, man. It could have gone either way. for him. >> But what do you feel about the Super. Bowl, though? What do you two feel about.

the Super Bowl? Are we allowed to talk. about that now? Since you got to talk. about it, Jason, >> you know, I've learned about this TV. deal. You can't give all your speakers. out right now. You got to hold some. back. >> We ain't holding back over here. >> You know, I I think it's obviously, you. know, the Seahawks look like the. favorite, right? Their defense has been. so good all year round. That offense has. been fantastic. Pat's offense has. struggled throughout the playoffs. Now, they played some unbelievable defenses, right? They played the Chargers, they've. played uh the Houston Texans, then.

they've just played the uh Broncos. They're going to get another test with. the Seahawks, who have another amazing. defense. >> Yeah, I don't know that people are. giving New England's defense, including. myself, enough credit. Like, I thought. the Broncos I was like, I don't think. the Patriots are going to move the ball. on um on the Broncos. But I didn't. really think about as much as like this. this New England defense the last really. three four weeks is playing really good. football. Yeah. The way they're. blitzing, they're doing a good job of. mixing mixing up these max pressures and. these zone drops and simulated pressures.

and I just think they're doing a great. job as a as an entire unit right now. >> So if I'm picking, I'm going Seattle. But I I'm looking forward to a good. game. What do you think? >> Well, I mean Travis, you're you're still. planned officially, so you can't say. nothing. Okay. >> I can't say anything. I'll say this. I'm. I'm I'm at least interested in in the. the big matchup on the outside the. numbers. Now, that's going to be a fun. [ __ ] matchup right there. D Young, up. and coming, get both of them at the top. of their game right now. I'm excited for. that match up. >> You know what's so funny, man? We're.

we're watching the game and JSN gets. catches a touchdown. He's just catching. balls, conversing, doing all these. things and we're like, he doesn't even. look like he's working. How he's like, Michael, it doesn't look like he's. working. So he catches that touchdown. wide open and I'm like, "How in the. world if you're gonna cover anybody, that's the dude. How's he open?". >> And you know what Howie said to me? He. goes, "That's the same thing we say. about Kelsey.". >> I said, "Everybody know he's going to. get the ball. How the hell he get open?".

And I think I said that to you. And I was like, dude, I got to hell. But. it's it's a it's going to be that's. going to be a great matchup, man. It. really is. I I think Seattle had the. edge. I feel like they're just they're. physically a dominant team. And Leonard. Williams, these guys, I I don't think. it's going to be a cakewalk because we. all know from our win against the. Patriots, one game. Football's not like. the other sports you get the best of. If. you don't show up with your best at one. day, it's a wrap. So, I think I feel.

like Seattle, but anything can happen. Of course, >> right there with you, dog. >> Let me ask you this. A lot of people. complain about that Broncos game this. past week because of the weather. Where. do you stand on snow games? That's fun. What are you talking about? Are. >> you kidding me? Damn. I knew you I knew. you'd be a real one, man. >> You know what? I was like, man, when you. hit somebody, you just slide. But you. know what? It's just Now, now if you. were to ask me, how is it to be like 25°. and raining? Uh, that's when I'm out.

there looking going, "Oh, when it's just. over.". >> Cold rain is different than snow. That's. a good point. But I prefer to I prefer I. love I love snow. I love rain. Warm. rain. Probably my favorite thing of all. >> Oh, interesting. I like sitting outside. in the rain. I don't know why I just. said that, but I do. >> All right, let's go. All right. >> Are you like in the rain or you covered? >> No, I like being undercover. smell of rain. >> Yeah, I like that. I thought you just. walking out there with sitting in the. rain.

>> I'm staying in the rain. >> I'm like, it seems like it's something. that needs a little deeper discussion. in a private setting with somebody. called a therapist. >> That's too good, man. >> All right, let's throw it back to when. you were in the Super Bowl, man. Did the. 2007 Giants have the hardest path to the. Super Bowl ever? >> Ever. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. You know what I say? I mean, we were we were a six seed. >> We had to go to Tampa. Wasn't too. worried about.

>> they had to go through the John Gruden. and and the Bucks. Then once we went to. to Dallas, I ain't going to lie to you, all my stomp you out speeches, if you. look chronologically chronologically, I. was like, stomp them out, dude. They. talking all kinds of crazy. >> Uh-huh. We got to Dallas. I'm like, yo, it's been a pleasure playing with you. guys. Cuz in my head, I'm like, >> this could be it. This could be it. 15. years, I'm done with nothing. And um so. that they cuz they were stacked, man. And then we go to Green Bay and you're. in Green Bay and all your like the. history the history the history they're.

like brainwashing you on TV and you're. sitting in your hotel room and it was so. cold that you had a cup of water warm. water and you threw it up and you just. turned into like like dust. >> That's crazy. >> That was so cold man. But yeah, I think. we had the toughest road. Then we played. the only team I mean they were. undefeated 18 and0 and they had a a. group of all stars. We just produced. this documentary on our 2007 um Super. Bowl that's coming that's coming out and.

um I was watching a cut the other day. and. >> I was watching with a friend of mine. He. go Randy Wash, Tom Brady, um Bruski, Seal, Rodney Hair, he just started. naming all these guys and I'm like yeah. this team had they were beyond. >> reason they were undefeated. Yeah. >> Yeah, they were beyond. So yeah, I think. we had the hardest path and thank God we. won. so I could retire. >> Went out on time, baby. >> What's the thing you remember most from. the run? >> When we bonded as a team, like we went.

to London. We went to London to play the. Dolphins and um the we they were they. hadn't won a game. I think they lost. every game that year. And we were like, we can't be the team they beat, especially overseas. So, we go to. London, we end up beating the Dolphins, and I hosted I I like set up a party. cuz, you know, I was the oldest guy. there. I wanted the old guy, but I. wanted to make sure I look out for the. young guys. And to me, the best way make. sure we're all together, >> not this guy over here gone over there, especially in Europe. Half these guys.

never been out of wherever the heck they. were born. So, um, we had the best. afterparty. Plico B like, "Mike, why. haven't we had more that much fun since. college?" Like, hell yeah. Guys slam. dancing. Next thing you know, shirts are. off. If you would have walked in, if you. would have walked in there at the wrong. time, you probably would have thought it. was some other kind of party cuz you. catch them naked basically RUNNING TO. EACH OTHER. Y'ALL getting a little too hype up in. here, but we had the best time. But it. was just like that bonding and and we. got to the point of where we just didn't. want to let each other down. I think we.

won because we didn't want to let each. other down and disappoint each other. And we just weren't ready to go home. You know what I'm saying? We're not. ready for this brotherhood to end. Yeah. When Tyreek caught the ball off the. helmet even before they threw the. touchdown to Pllexico, I realized we. were going to win the game cuz I'm like, there's no way you catch like that in. the story doesn't have a great ending. >> I hear you on that, man. It just feels. like it's so right. >> Do you guys think any type of way when. you heard that Romo went on vacation? >> Oh, no. >> Was there any discussions? No, >> no. I think what what got us and it's in.

the dock. Jerry gave the team each. player their two tickets to the next. game, NFC Championship game. Ah, >> he had already given those guys their. tickets to the NFC Championship game. Like, oh, the Giants are pretty are. done. >> Yeah. >> So, here are your tickets already. So, we made sure that those tickets were. invalid. >> Bullets of porn material for you. >> Yeah, exactly. Let's keep it in the. Giants world. What do you think of the. Harbo Hire? >> I love it. I love it. You know, I think.

it brings credibility, accountability, uh, and accountability to the team. I. just love the fact that he's an. established coach. I think the second he. walks in the door, he's getting respect. >> I think he has a nice young blue nucle. nucleus of players. Dart, I think, could. be good. Just got to teach him to get. the hell down and stop taking hits. Scataboo, >> Scataboo, I thought, would probably get. knocked out before he got hurt in the. way he got hurt because. >> I'm like, dude, you can't run like this. and have a long career. You got to learn. to pick your battle. And then once you.

get. >> You can't knock out a guy like that. You. know that you can't knock a guy out like. he he he's just unnoutable. That's if. you get in a fight with him, you just. got to leave. >> If he was knocked out, we would just. never know. >> We never know. Yeah. Yeah. He one of. those dudes. >> You ask him what day it is before a. concussion. He doesn't know. >> exactly. >> Is he concussion though? That's how he. is always. Don't worry about. >> every day Sunday. I He says this all the. time. Every day Sunday. >> But I love it that he brought a lot of. energy. He and Dart brought a lot of.

energy, a lot of swag for these young. guys. We haven't had that with the. Giants. Always been like conservative. type stuff. But I love our we got a good. defensive nucleus I think. Um and just. some pieces here and there. But I love. Powerball because of the credibility, man. The respect that he's going to. demand and the accountability because. can't get away with some of that stuff. I think some of the guys were getting. away with from what I've heard over. there. I think he's going to make guys. more accountable for their actions and. make sure that they focus on playing the. game of football, which is what it's all. about. That's how you make it live it. Focus on it.

>> That's right. That's right. Heck yeah. I. got to ask you this Super Bowl coming. up. Is there anybody in the game on the. in the trenches that you're looking. forward to watching? >> H. >> who who's the who are the guys you're. like, man, I I love watching these guys. play. >> I love watching um Leonard Williams. I. love watching Leonard who was with the. Giants. We seem like we have great. players and when we let them go, they go. on to be all world. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Leonard, >> I'll tell you this. Everybody in. Philadelphia knew how good Leonard. William was. I can tell you that. Man, >> I thought you going to say Squan. I was.

about to just slap. >> Well, that one too. That one too. But. >> but Leonard is u is a is a beast of a. player. So I I love watching Leonard. I. just like watching I like watching D. live battles because you know that's. what the trenches is where I live. So. anytime I see a quarterback back there. just bouncing up and down, no pressure, I'm pissed. I ain't going to lie to you. I'm so pissed. >> I'm like, dude. And when I see guys. running there and just go straight into. a guy and they just hold on to each. other and dance, I'm pissed. Like, dude,

look like you're trying to get there. You don't have to get a sack, but. pressure make just making them feel your. presence could be a disruptor. And there. are times, man, I wake up and I'm like, at one time, I ain't going to lie to. you, about two years ago, maybe even. less. Like, man, screw this. I'm coming. back, man. It was before Rivers decided. I'm like, I'M COMING BACK. WELL, body. feels good. Ain't really no surgeries, no nothing. I'm good. >> You You could get You could give them a. full a good four or five games, huh? >> Well,

>> just a quick four or five. >> I did one workout and I changed my mind. It made me realize, oh, hell no. That. ain't happening. I'm past my Oh, that's. done. Nope. Now I just I just Google me. Google me. >> There you go. Yeah. >> Go on YouTube. Look it up. as an. all-time great pass rusher, what would. you say if somebody was going to say. like how do how do you rush a passer? What's the art? What are your like keys. to getting after a quarterback to. beating the offensive tackle?

>> I always tell people pass rushing is. about athletic ability and and all it. is, but it's about it's like it's like. chess to me. That's why I love doing it. is I was known as a bull rusher. You go. back and watch me and John run. It was. like, >> bro, I have seen those clips over and. over again. Bull. That's epic. >> But I had to have strategy against him. cuz that was the strongest. >> Once he put them hands on you, I might. as well just stay until the next play.

>> But I I I learned like, you know, and I. used to do it to everybody. I know when. you watch film and I self scout like I. watch myself to see, but I know guys. expect me to bull rush. So you know what. I do? Bull rush the [ __ ] out of you. First three rush. The first three rushes. up the field, first step, second step, plant, turn, head in the chest, lock. out, and don't stop your feet. Don't. press and then start a run. Nope. Right. through you the whole way. I don't even. want to sack. I just want to make you. hop and get back in your quarterback's. face. And then after I do that, I'll.

look at you and go, "Hey, little bit. stronger than it looks on tape, huh?". Like you thought they were going to stop. that. You knew it was coming and you. couldn't stop it. So I hit you with that. three, four times. I ain't worried about. a sack at that point. Then big down. comes up. I run up, plant, give me that. same look. If you're a big dude, you. don't want to get pushed back. So you. squat and you lean and then I chop you. and come across the out. Then I beat. you. I make the play and then in your. head you're like, "Oh my god, push me. back. He beat me to the outside." Next.

time I come up, I give you that fake. power to outside move. Then I give you a. power. Then I give you another fake. outside and power to outside move. and. then need another big play. Give you the. fake power to outside. Make you think. I'm going outside and club you come. inside. >> But now I beat you straight over you. I. beat you outside. I beat you inside and. then I look in your eye and I see you. don't want no more cuz you don't know. what's coming. That was to me the. strategy and the psychology of football. But I didn't talk much unless you talk.

to me. Oh, and that reminds me Greg. Olsen play. I do remember that play Olan. Cruz the center. >> Oh yeah. He had pissed me off. >> HE HAD PISSED me off. >> He had pissed me off. I remember that. >> Wait, did he cut you? He cut you on a. TV. >> He did something. He did something and. he was talking and I took it out on. Greg. I do remember I was pissed. >> You got to know who you're talking [ __ ]. to, man. >> Yeah, he was a great player. The old. great player. >> Now that we're talking a little Dline O. line, you brought up Renan. Uh Cam.

Jordan, uh one of my favorites to ever. go up against, man, recently just said. that offensive linemen aren't athletic. What's your opinion on that take? >> If they weren't athletic, I love Cam, by. the way. This is not as much as he's one. of the greats. He had a hell of a long. career, but if they weren't that. athletic, Cam would be like Deacon Jones. that had 100 sacks IN A YEAR. FIRST of all, and I wish people at home. who really love the game could get a. chance to come down and watch like some.

plays from the sideline to see how big, strong, and fast these big dudes are and. footwork. I mean, these dudes are. athletes. >> Jordan Mada, you want to talk about. Google somebody, Google Jordan Mada back. when he was playing rugby. >> And you know what's so funny between. Jordan and Lane when we we do a lot of. Eagles games obviously and uh and in. person and I always look at how and I. say, "Yeah, man. And I wish I thought I. give him a run for that money. How he. looks at me and he's like, "Michael.". And in my mind, I give him a run for.

their money. >> But then I watching them abuse everybody. else, but I'm different. >> Right. Well, my mind, dude, you know what's so funny? I. literally laugh. I don't remember. Like. I know I play football and all that. stuff and and accolades and you guys. bring that stuff up, but it's so funny. that it's very hard for me to even. consider myself to even be like a great. football player or you know people go, "Oh, you're a legend. You're in the Hall. of Fame." It's like, yeah, it's kind of.

weird to me because I played for. respect. >> That's all I I you know, and and I guess. the respect comes from those type of. things. But I did, you know, I I play. when know you're young, you play, you're. like, "Okay, I want to be respected, but. I want to make some money, you know.". >> Yeah. >> But then after a while, you realize. making money is not enough to keep you. playing a game that's so hard. >> Yeah. >> And it's great, but I wanted respect. I. I wanted that and I got that, but it. still feels weird to me um for all that.

stuff. I don't know. It feel I feel. uncomfortable with it, man. It's weird. >> You got the respect out of everyone. And. I think that's the reason you got all. Yeah, that's they're they're showing you. that respect by by telling you you're. one of the greatest to ever play, man. >> Well, I appreciate that and me saying. that and I feel like I need one of those. therapy sessions. When Jason's done with. his, I'm up next. >> No, listen. Straight. You got it figured. out. You already know. You got it all. figured out, baby. It's It's been fun to. It's been fun to not only watch you. dominate in the NFL, but dominate the. afterlife of NFL, man. And you paved the.

way for a lot of us in that regard, too. and gain that respect for a lot of NFL. guys trying to uh trying to kind of walk. that path after the after the game's. over for him, man. >> Well, I appreciate it and and I got to. say, Jason, you're doing a great job. with it and and and you know, Travis, I'm not even going to get into what. you're going to do, but you're going to. be great as well. You both are great. with this podcast, which is which is. incredible. And um you know, and and the. one thing that I know and everybody. tries to give everybody advice, and I'm. not trying to give you advice here, but.

advice from St. You know that. >> at some point you never put on another. helmet. You never put on another pair of. shoulder pads. You never slide those. pants on with the knee pads and thigh. pads. You never tape your wrist again. It's final. There is no big three in the. NFL. You know, there is no other league. So, um I realized for me after 15 years, I done everything. There was no way I. was going to cry at a press conference. in my retirement because I knew I put. everything I had into it. And as long as.

you know that final, you'll never do it. again, then great. That's how I looked. at my career. And everything that came. after was kind of I ga say kind of. happened on accident from working hard. and enjoying what I'm doing and just. having fun. Good things seem to happen. But um but yeah, man, it's um you guys. are crushing it and everything that you. do. I'm happy you invited me on to do. this cuz I've been watching all these. podcasts going, "Damn, when when do I. get it?". >> Come on now. Come on. You knew you were.

at the top of the list. >> I got to say one more thing I got to say. though for people out there watching. about character. Okay. Both of you have. character. You're raised right. Okay. And and uh and Jason, every time I sing. you, you've been and the nicest and your. wife and everything that you guys you've. always been great. And and Travis, you. may not remember and you you probably do. remember, but it said a lot to me and I. tell a guy I was talking to highway. about this with you the other day is I. was at the airport and I get out the car.

and you come coming across you got out. of your car you're already in to come. over and say what's up which I didn't. even know you were there and most people. sit in that car and be like nah man let. it go I ain't go but it's like little. things like that show character and I. always appreciate it appreciated at um. from from both of you guys, man. And and. like little things like that you think. nobody's really paying attention to. really mean a lot to a lot of people. And um you know, I'm always here for you. guys if you guys ever need anything. And. I don't I'm not saying that like we done.

podcast. So let's keep on going. Sorry. No, I appreciate that. And I still got. to take you out for some of that golf. down there in Florida, man. >> Man, you know I got you. >> You know, I remember that. I I haven't. forgot any of that. >> Florida, Bahamas. I got you covered. >> There we go. you were kind of talking on. the retirement talk and obviously I'm. juggling it uh all right now. Did you. know going in It sounds like you kind of. knew going into that 2007 season that. was the last hurrah. >> Um I kind of felt like it but I I will. say had we lost to the Patriots I really.

would have strongly considered coming. back. I really would have cuz it would. have been like man this close. Almost. feel like I got to get it one more run. And I'm glad I'm glad trust me I'm glad. we won cuz that was kind of like okay. what else am I trying to prove? uh body. feels good. I've won every individual. award. Now I've won the ultimate award, which is the Super Bowl with my team. So. there's nothing else for me to. accomplish. And I had a deal already. signed with Fox. Just had the deal in. the drawer. Nobody knew about it. So.

>> and so I knew I had a gig after that. And so it I was able to kind of ride out. to the sunset on my own terms, which is. very hard because most people um they. don't get to end their careers the way. they want to end it. So whenever you. have that opportunity, man, um you're. blessed. And so I realized I didn't want. to stick around and be on the team and I. have my heart wholeheartedly into the. game and just stick around for what a. paycheck stick around so one of these. young guys can go, "Hey, I remember when. you used to be." And I'm like, "Shit, I'm still here. What you talking about.

used to be, you know?". >> So So yeah, man. I kind of went into it. with the idea that that that was going. to be it. And I also went into it with. the attitude, I don't care about a Pro. Bowl. I don't care about sacks. I don't. care about nothing. I just want to have. fun with the guys for once. >> How about it, man? >> Cuz all the a lot of the other years, man, the other 14, I'm so worried about. winning. That's what. >> if guys are on their on their game. And. I started saying, "Hey, we're all grown. You got to be on your game. I can. motivate in every way I can, but guys.

going to have to show up on their own.". And they did. Thank God. >> You mentioned you already had the Fox. deal inked. At what point did you know. you were going to go into broadcasting? >> Oh, man. You know, I started just doing. stuff because it was fun. Yeah, be. honest with you. Hey Michael, you want. to do this? And back then they had a. show called Best Damn Sports Show. period. >> Come on. Come on. That was an incredible. like breeding ground to like get your. your your feet wet in television. And so. I would go on it on a by-week I would go. and host a week of it. I signed a deal.

my last year or so where every Monday I. would go sit in front of a camera and I. would have to do the show. Every Monday, win or lose, always showed up cuz you. know I signed up to do it. show up. regardless. But doing that show kind of. gave me a vibe for broadcasting. Let me. know I could I would like it. I did a. Super Bowl for ESPN when I was still. playing ABC. Um I did CBS. I did Fox. I. did all the networks and. I didn't really know guys made a good. living doing it to be honest with you.

>> I thought football was like, man, this. is this is the best well opportunity. best opportunity I ever have. And so. broadcasting was never on my forefront. of my life. And I'm I'm very much like. this. When I'm in something, you get. everything from me. It's my primary. All. the other secondary stuff and and I'll. make it work, but I'm not affecting my. primary gig. So broadcast wants to. secondary to me. And I I think I got a. call from one of these network. executives who asked me to go to. breakfast with him. So I meet him at. breakfast and the first thing out of his.

mouth was, "How much longer do you want. to play football?" I never thought about. it. And that let me know, damn, they're. looking at me to actually have a job and. I'm done playing, commentating. And. >> I went to Fox out of all the networks. because it was the most fun. It was the. most fun. And it's like I hang out with. my teammates and we laugh and we joke. and we have more fun off camera as much. as we more than we have on camera, which. we have a ton on camera. It's it's more. about personalities. and um and to be honest with you, we.

don't it's entertainment, you know, >> right? For sure. >> People sit in meetings all week. You. want to watch a football show and feel. like watch another meeting or you want. to you want to have fun with. So that's. why I ended up with Fox. But I realized. probably my last two years in the league. >> that there was an opportunity for me uh. outside of the gate. But forget about. sport, all the other stuff after that, I. had no clue. Yeah, that's what's dude. that's what's really the most eye. opening is how much you've done in TV.

Like you start you're doing the Fox and. all that. You're doing morning shows, you got game shows. Like what is your fa. What brings you the most joy that you do. on television? >> Football still. >> Nothing would ever change that. Nothing. >> I love it. >> And don't get me wrong, like I love. doing the news. I love I love it. I It's. so You know why? Because it keeps me. interested in the world. It keeps me. engaged with so many things that are. going on and keeps me very aware of. what's going on which I think is. important. Uh and I get to talk to. interesting people. I get to travel the. world to do interesting stories. Uh so.

that part I love. Uh that's awesome. >> I love the game show is great. Um and. but we shoot a whole season in a week or. two. >> That's what's crazy about that stuff. >> Yeah. Rapid fire, man. >> And Travis knows cuz I I was telling. Travis, I watched your show. I dove I. dove in a little bit, man. You already. know those shows can get crazy, man. And. it's I got more comfortable as it went. on. But um that's a different world that. uh that you know I had fun with and I. and I'm sure you did too, man. But um I.

think I think I'm right there with you, man. There's just something about. talking about football and being around. the game and given given the expertise. that you've gathered over over the. years. It's also this, and I want I'm. sure you would back this up, Mike, but. one of the things you miss most about. playing is just being around the guys. Like nothing replaces being around. football players. I don't know why it. is. You miss that locker room like like. that's the thing that you miss most. about the game. At least that's what I. do. >> And once you're back on a set talking.

ball, it's not even that you're it's. kind of talk ball, but it's also just. being around like-minded guys that think. about the game the same way. the sense. of humor is the same and you get. flashback to that, you know, sitting at. the cafeteria table making fun of, you. know, whoever it is or talking about, do. you see what that guy did last week? And. >> I don't know. >> Oh, we're on a group chat. I don't want. to show. >> I don't want to show you what they. already said since we ended on Sunday, but no,

>> we're on a group chat and we got talk. year round. Um, even Jimmy's still. involved on it because he's part of the. history of the show. And the crazy thing. is there is no age gap when we're all. together. You know what I mean? Jimmy is. 80 something, Terry 70s something. >> And you feel that when you're watching. it. You do. You really do feel that. >> Yeah. There's no age gap that we can. make fun of each other and we play off. each other, but we respect each other. And everybody had accomplished more in. their life and in football and in sports. than we ever imagined. So this is like.

gravy and we're so grateful. And there's. no no attitude. There's no anything. about any individual. We're very much. about our team and about, you know, loving each other and making sure we. each are all of us are are taken care of. and validated and happy and and I think. that's a big part of why our show works. And um you know, but yeah, the group. chats and and all the other stuff and I. found like the older guys, Jerry, Jimmy, they're the least mature of all of us. cuz they're their age, man. When we be.

back in the green room, they say some. stuff you going, "DUDE, YOU CAN'T THEY. DIDN'T SAY THAT on there.". >> Don't say that with the mic on. >> They grew up in a different era. They. grew up in a different era, you know. >> Yeah, exactly. Well, there the end of. Fox NFL Sunday. I got to ask you. You talked about the. Fox family. The addition of Robert. Gronowski. Grank joined the Fox family. not too long ago, man. You got to tell. me what it's like working with Grank. Man, >> you know what I always say, and it's. kind of like Terry. People think that. Terry Bradshaw is Terry's one of the.

smartest people I know. I said, Terry, you you've done better in your life. playing the dumb guy than anybody I've. ever met. MY. Terry's a brilliantly smart guy and and. the businesses, the horse business, all. these other things that he does. And and. I think I feel the same about Gronk. Grank is an incredibly first of all, he's probably the sweetest human being. on the planet. The dude is like, one of. the nicest human being. And one thing I. I realized from my experience of coming. in Fox after they've been on the air for. 20 years or whatever, 18, 19 years.

without having anybody else come in and. here I show up. It's intimidating. because you're looking at guys that you. watched since you were a kid and you. admired who are now you're sitting next. to them. But it's tough fitting in and. Gronk has done an incredible job of. fitting in first of all and secondly I. think that Gronk has done a great job of. fighting his lane because that's the. hard part. But you got personalities who. are established what's your lane? This. is my lane that's your lane but he's. getting more and I know he get more. comfortable because he's still not quite.

comfortable and I don't blame him but he. getting more comfortable and I always. tell him sometime dude. >> don't wait for us to wait for jump in. You got something to say just jump in. Oh yeah, >> we're like very casual and guys will set. up and let you have your take. No one's. worried about you getting more words. than the next guy. We don't do word. count here. It's like we just want you. to be a comfortable and happy cuz you're. helping the show. And um yeah, Gro, I. love it. We flew back to New York. together and u on Monday yesterday. Just. a salt of the earth human being, man. I.

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to answer. You can just tell us to [ __ ]. off. But uh we got to ask is brought to. you by All State. >> Oh boy. You do not have to answer. >> Yeah, you can tell us to [ __ ] off. >> I'll be honest, though. I kind of I kind of like skating. on the edge, man. >> There we go. >> All right, here we go. Well, talk about. skating on the edge of the atmosphere. What What was it like going to space? >> Amazing, dude. Crazy cuz the whole thing. was like 12 minutes. Boop boop. Felt. like hours. >> What? Really? >> To be in the light and you're looking up. at space, looking at the darkness up.

there and then the rocket starts taking. off and it's not like Apollo 13 movie. with Tom Hanks. It's kind of it's just gradual. It's. like a gradual push and you're looking. at your little screen cuz the seat have. a little screen tells you the altitude, the speed. You're like, "Oh, 40,000 ft. I've been in a plane." Then you you're. looking down, then you look back. It's. like you're 200,000 ft and you're 2,000. miles per hour or something crazy and. you're going, "Goodness, oh my god, this. is real." And the design of the ship is.

amaz when it goes up. It's designed to. twist. So you don't have to turn your. head, just look out your own window and. you get to see the full 360 cuz there's. the emergency booster in the middle. So. you got to keep your head back because. something happens and that shoots you. off. That shoots you off at 9 G's. >> when you're going up there's like three. and a half. >> Yeah, like your Top Gun or something. But the. gradual push up is like three and a half. G's. I want to say coming down it's like. 5 G's. But when you get up there and.

they release the main rocket from the. capsule and they go poof and then you. realize, "Oh my god, my arms are. floating." And then the lights go off, you can undo your belt, put your belt up. and you you push as hard as you two your. two fingers like holding a cell phone. like that kind of pressure. And then I'm. doing flips, man. My my big ass has. never done a flip. I haven't done a. flip. I was a kid. And I'm doing I'm. doing like flips. We had little mini. football. you do like that and it just. go it doesn't none of it's just and.

blowing in one space and doing like the. cartoons where you're flapping does. nothing. You'll just sit in one spot and. then um it's just amazing to float. around. You're looking back at Earth and. it's like you're watching when you leave. your um your your your Apple TV on too. long and. it and it was literally you one of the. best parts which Sean's kind of creepy. is that you have to come to terms with. death. >> Oh wow. And by that I mean before you. take off, you become so relaxed and.

free. >> Best way to put it. You just come so if. it's God's will, >> this is what it is. This is how I go. And. >> wow. >> Believe me though, I was happy to come. back. But. >> but everybody on the ground was crying. and still for my mom. My mom was like, "Your dad did worse. He was jumping out. of planes all the time. >> He was a paratrooper." I'm like, "Well, damn. You know what? Come on. But. everybody else was crying, but all of us. on there were just so happy, man. So.

filled with joy. And it was it was um it. was one of the best things I've ever. done in my life without a doubt. >> Wow. That is incredible. >> That's what I wanted to hear, baby. And. that was a long explanation, but I No, I. loved every second of it, man. I'm so. in. >> I tell you, you would love it. They do. an incredible job from start to finish. And um I I would highly recommend it if. you get the opportunity to do it. I. would jump on it in a heartbeat. It's. life-changing in a lot of ways. Makes.

you realize how insignificant you are on. this in the world. And but it also makes. you realize how important you are to the. people that matter the most to you. because I'm on there thinking about my. family and like I'm not ready to leave. them and they're not ready for me to. leave either. Like it really puts a lot. of things in perspective. >> That is beautiful, man. You've done so. much, Mike. What's next? What is the. next thing for Michael Strahan? >> A retirement. >> Like full just all around work, man. I'm.

talking about. way. >> You know what? Yeah, they're in the way. at some point. Some some some some. point, man. You know what it is? I I. love Fox. I I absolutely love that. But. I just want to you work so much and then. there I want to go here, I want to go. there and I can't do a lot of things. because I got these commitments and. schedule stuff and I I think at some. point I have to look at time lived and. time left. >> I got you. >> You know I hear and you guys are are. young man. Y'all y'all y'all enjoy you.

got more time ahead of you than behind. you. I got more time behind me than. ahead of me. So I'm starting to look. more in that vein of life and I'm not. just going to completely disappear. But. another thing is I love business and I. got a lot of other businesses that I do. and I'm and those things interest me. like football did because I have had to. learn them like I had to learn a. football later and I love doing those. things and I think I could get a lot of. you know um validation or of just you. know not not feeling completely.

retired and doing nothing but that gives. me enough and on top of that I still I I. do Fox until they throw me off of Fox. Man, I don't want to be 80 years old on. Fox, but you know, I stick around a. little bit longer. >> You got some fun stuff coming up on uh. on Smack with Smack Entertainment, right? You guys got some docu series. coming coming out, right? >> Yeah, we got a docu series coming out, Coach Vic. And this is the second one we. did with with with Mike cuz Mike, we did. the evolution of the black quarterback. with Vic. >> Yep.

>> Um and which which Andy Reid, your. coach, played a big part in that, Doc, because think about the quarterbacks. He. McNav, Vic, all these guys that he. really brought in and gave a chance when. other people probably wouldn't have. So, he's been very instrumental in that. So, document I mean that that and now we. have coach Vic and his his his his foray. into coaching at Northolk State. That's. right. >> Folk State, baby. >> Him and Deshawn Jackson going at it. right there. Two former Eagle grades. I. came down for GMA and I was at the.

stadium and we had both of them there. cuz they were doing the game there and. at the link and I'm like um I felt out. of place in Philly man all that eagle. stuff. I'm like we could have done this at a. neutral sight. Don't bring me over here. to the beauty. >> But you know so we got we got um Coach. Vic coming up. We also we have a movie. coming out too. I'm going to screen it. uh right after we get done here. And and. that one is about John Matt. We did the. documentary on the Mad video game. John.

and then we did. >> and then we did Bill Bichc on the Madden. Madden Cruiser for the Super Bowl in New. Orleans. We produced that. And now we're. doing the Madden movie with David O. Russell directing. Christian Bell plays. Al Davis. Uh Nicholas Case plays John. Madden. And so that I'm going to screen. now cuz that's coming out. >> Man, I can't [ __ ] wait, man. That. looks awesome, man. That looks so. [ __ ] awesome. >> It's gonna be incredible. >> And obviously John Madden is he's one of. the biggest personalities that I I I.

like he was the world when I was growing. up and I can only imagine what it was to. actually be like be in a room with him. and and to enjoy who he was as a person, man. >> But you know those pregame meetings, I. mean, imagine doing those pregame. meetings and you're meeting with John. Madden. >> Yeah, >> that's crazy. And then you're at the. stadium and that bus is sitting there. and you're like, "Oh my god, John. Madden." That was more presser than. freaking John Ryan, >> right?

>> I got to ask you, you brought up John a. couple times. I do got to ask you this. I see the highlights and I see a lot of. Michael Strahan highlights. I know. you've always given John his credit as. being tough, physical, but what was what. was it really like? How what was it like. for Michael Strahan going up against. John Ren? >> Tough. easier when he first got there. cuz he was in he was in Tennessee and. then when they brought him to Philly the. whole thing was we brought him to Philly. to stop Strahand which pissed me off. So. I studied John Renan more than I.

probably studied anybody anybody. I. could tell what he was going to do. before he can do it. Um I could tell he. was going to fart before HE FARTED. THAT'S HOW. THAT'S THAT'S how much I knew that cat. Right. But I will say as we played each. other more and more over the years, the. tougher it got, the more savvy he got. He and Eric Williams with the Dallas. Cowboys were my number one toughest guy. Um John Renan and Leon Cersi. um who the offensive tackle played in. Pittsburgh and then in Jacksonville.

where they were two 2A and 2B and so. freaking strong and tough and smart. And. I love John cuz John made me a better. player. Those those three I named made. me a better player because playing. against them made everybody else seem. easy. And even at the super at my Hall. of Fame induction, John Kane, which. meant the world to me and I had to give. him a shout out. I had to give him a. shout out. So I said John Renan 67 350. lbs whatever of of um of of twisted.

steel and no sex appeal. SO. YOU GOT TO GO give him a compliment. Hell no. >> Could you have ever called out that he. was going to be the VP of rules and and. policy and handed out fines for guys. with that are given late hitting cheap. shots. >> You know, it's kind of like what's that. catch me if you can character. >> That's exactly hired a guy who does the.

crime so that you know how who know how. who to catch doing the crime. John, man, I I couldn't believe it. I'm. like, how are you finding anybody? We. should go and retroactively find your. ass for what you were doing. >> Oh man, that's so [ __ ] good. >> All right, man. We're going to we got to. wrap and get you out of here, big dog. No, we appreciate the time, but we we. always end these uh these interviews or. these talks with a welcome to the NFL. moment, man. What was your welcome to.

the NFL moment, Dre? >> Oh, man. I've had well I one was I was. actually playing in the game. The other. one I was just actually a rookie at the. game as a rookie at the game. We were. playing the 49ers in the playoffs and in. San Fran and I just remember being there. and I'm coming from Texas Southern man. I'm watching Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Ricky Waters, all these guys and I'm. like can I have your autograph? THAT'S. WHAT I WANTED.

>> I WANT an autograph. I hate Jerry Rice. coming out there running like a damn. stallion and it it was that was the most. amazing amazing thing. But my welcome to. the NFL moment was playing the Cowboys, playing against Eric Williams and we're. out there and we're fighting, man. We're. battling. And I'm like, you know what, mother? You wait till next time. I'm. going to do that. I'm do I do that. He. looked at me and he said, "Let me tell. you something, young fella. That may. happen in the future, but right now, you. just take this whipping like a gro. YOU. TAKE THIS ASS WHALE. OH, >> YOU JUST take this ass whip like a man.

>> Oh my gosh. >> Whoa. Okay. And he was right. Sometimes you got to. you got to take that ass whooping like a. man. And that was my welcome to the NFL. There's some bad boys out here. You're. not always king of the jungle. >> I love that. >> That is so good. That's similar to mine. I I've told this. We probably won't even. put in the episode, but I got to tell. you this after that. I got a Jay Ratliff. with the Cowboys and it was my first. time playing like a head up nose or 5.

and everything. So, it's me and him. one-on-one and he was whooping my ass. Like, I could not block him. He didn't. have he didn't have a sack. I get a. holding call later in the game and I'm. and I didn't think it was a good call. I. start yelling at the ref and I look back. at Jay. I'M LIKE, "MAN, YOU KNOW THAT'S. some bullshit." He's like, "Son, I've. been whooping your ass all day. I had to. figure I deserve one of them.". You know what? I I ain't got nothing to. say. >> Yeah, you're right. >> But we all have that one guy, man.

>> Yeah, we all got that one guy. And we. all had those moments. But hey, if you. didn't have those kind of moments, you. didn't play football. >> Seriously. >> Who was yours? What was your. >> I had I had about five of them. Uh I had. I had a guy I had one of those guys on. every team, actually. It was it was just. about, you know, the one I saw twice a. year was Von Miller, though. Von Von and. those when they had they were they were. trying they were on those Super Bowl. runs with uh with Peyton. Man, Van was a. he was he was a beast and he was mean,

man. I've learned I've learned to know. Van. Van is like you he's a great guy. Like just a just a A1 human being. But. man, when he in between those whistles, he was trying to embarrass you. >> I tell you what, man. I was I was in the. Bahamas and and Von came over to hang. out. I'd never seen somebody with legs. that big. >> Oh yeah, he's he's he's he's an animal. now. >> Really? I wouldn't expected that more. splendor. >> I didn't either. I was like, I. I mean, I should be commenting on other.

man's ass and legs, but I was like, >> damn. If I was built like that, you know. what I'm saying? He's producing. >> Yeah, he's producing some torque, man. With that being said, though, before we. go, I gota I got to give a shout out to. my guy Miles Garrett, though. I. had an incredible season. Unstoppable, unblockable player, man. I've never, you. know, usually a guy has like one move or. something like that in the counter. There's nothing he doesn't have. And. it's crazy. You watch him and going,

"Ah, how could a guy that big be that. fast and lean that low? How could a guy. be that big and that strong and run. somebody over? How does he open at the. hips and come inside? Or. >> he's such a savvy ball player, too, man. He knows what's coming. >> But yeah, congrats to Miles, man. Incredible season. I'm so happy for him. And he really is a good dude, man. I've. had a chance, you know, have lunch and. spend some time with him and and hit him. up and talk to him before and after. that. And I always try to encourage him. because, as you guys know, >> we play and pretty soon we're just.

another guy who played in the league in. so many ways. And it's time for the next. generation. And um you just got to. encourage them because I always had guys. encourage me and I hate to see when when. when you know old guys we tear down. these young players. Game's different. Pay is different. All these things are. different. They're part of the game. I. remember making three million bucks a. year and I was the highest paid. defensive end in the league and that was. a big deal because I was making as much. as or more than Bruce Smith and Reggie. and all those guys. And then then I end.

up jumping up like eight million bucks a. year and that was unheard of. now five. times that'll probably be the going. rate. But you can't think back because. back then like that was that was doing. well in those times. So I always want to. encourage these young guys. I always. want to encourage these older guys, encourage these young guys, man. Don't. just look at them as if you didn't play. in my era, you couldn't play. Okay. Okay, fine. They weren't born. What can. you do? Blame the parents. >> Yeah. No doubt. No doubt. >> Well, we we can go ahead and leave it.

right there. That was beautifully said, big dog. And I can't thank you enough. for the wisdom. just you being you, your. personality. Seriously, >> I'm telling you, man, what what you've. been to just me as a as a player and and. and always reaching out and being kind, man, I can't thank you enough for being. you, big dog. Well, I appreciate you. both for having me, man. And really, in. all sincerity, I think you two are are. the best. So, keep on doing it. And I. love the brotherly love and I love the. fact that you guys are just who you are. and you're being yourself and that's. your that's that's the magic of the. Kelsey brothers, man.

>> Come on now. >> Thank you, Big Dog. >> Appreciate Mike. You're the best, brother. For sure. Yeah, baby. >> You're the best, man. Appreciate the. time, dog. Once again, that was We Got. to Ask brought to you by All State. >> All right, let's wrap up this episode. with some stamps of the week. Stamp of. the week is brought to you by Adobe. Acrobat. Jets fans finally have a quarterback. sort of in the Super Bowl. Look at this. Jake Chatsky. I hope the. Patriots get [ __ ] [ __ ] rocked in the. Super Bowl.

What with the disdain, Jake? >> That's a hilarious tweet, though. >> I'm fully biased. I [ __ ] hate the. Patriots. They've ruined They've ruined. the majority of my football watching. life. >> You're putting the Patriots at fault for. the Jets being an awful organization. As. a Jets fan, I don't like the Patriots. So, you Jason, like you don't like the. Cowboys? >> I understand how fandom works, >> right? >> I'm just saying don't blame the Patriots. for your guys malfice of what football. has been played. >> Well, and all Yes, I agree. Fine. Those.

are separate issues. But when one of the. teams that is like my bitter rival has. six Super Bowls and all this success and. then I have to hear about Patriots fans. like going through a hard time in their. rebuild of what four [ __ ] years and. two quarterbacks and that's it. >> Quick rebuild. Quick reb. >> Yeah, it's [ __ ] And so I hope that. they get [ __ ] [ __ ] in Super Bowl. >> It to me it is. To me it is. Like I. >> I don't think it's [ __ ] I think. they went out and got a great head coach.

and then they found a great quarterback. I don't think it's [ __ ]. >> I mean, yeah, that that's Well, it's. just I can never have nice things. The. Jets just keep [ __ ] up and like. >> nice things. >> You can just turn then that Jets green. for some Patriots gear. >> and you can have make me puke. No, I. would not. That's not. >> that that's going to make you puke more. than your your experience with the Jets. over the past however many years. >> I'm a loyal guy. I will be loyal to the.

Jets until the day that they finally. kill me, which is probably how I'll end. up dying. But I will not turn my back on. the team even though they keep making. dumb decision after dumb decision. And. if the Patriots weren't smart enough, they'd probably have Gerard Mayo and. we'd have Mike Vrabel. So, like that. makes it even worse is that I have to. watch Mike Vrabel, who was in all. likelihood probably going to be the Jets. coach last year, go do this with the. Patriots. It's just it's a nightmare of. errors. We should have had Sam Darnold. He should still be our quarterback. But. no, he had to like go to five different.

teams before he could go to a Super. Bowl. And now I just have to root for. Sam Darnold to avenge his ghosts and let. me have like a slight win in the fact. that Patriots fans will not be happy. >> How many great Jets players are playing. in the Super Bowl? You got Sam Darnold. Another one people don't want to talk. about. Leonard Williams. Leonard. Williams stand out with the Jets. >> Yeah. >> Who else is there's got to be some other. names that I'm not even thinking about. that are playing in the Super Bowl that. were. >> I lost to Leonard Williams and the Jets. Yeah. >> I can't think of many off the top of my. head, but. >> Well, all I'm saying is it doesn't sound. like you can blame the players or the.

Patriots. >> I I just don't I don't want good things. to happen to that franchise in. particular. Like the people who root for. that franchise are like people who have. been tormenting me personally for 30. years. And those people don't change. You know what I mean? Like the Patriots. fans who are rooting for Tom Brady and. being like, "Haha, [ __ ] the Jets.". They're the same people who get to enjoy. Drake May now. So I understand it's like. a different team, but I will not be. happy for them. >> All right, that's understandable.

Understandable. Who you rooting for, Trip? I pro, you know, I like I [ __ ]. love a good Mike Vrabel story, man. I. love I love Vabes. He's always been the. [ __ ] best, man. He just felt like he. would been an awesome coach to play for. >> Um, but I do love the Sam Darnold story. I love I I I got a lot of guys over in. Seattle that I admire. >> There's a good There's a good story line. on both of them. >> Cincinnati Bearcats got Kobe Bryant over. there playing DB. Um, I'm rooting for. him. I'm rooting for AJ Barner. another.

Cleveland kid. Both of those guys out of. Cleveland. Um, so I don't know. Sam. Darnold is uh I I like that story right. now. Um, and and to see him flourish. Uh, would be pretty damn cool to see him. go from where he's been to winning a. Super Bowl. >> I like Sam Darnold. I love the Seahawks. defense. I like the way they play. There's just a certain amount of respect. that you have. Kenneth Walker, the way. he was running this last game. Oh my. gosh, a beast. >> Uh, but then there is like I like Drake. May. I like the rookie quarterback. I. like Braves. like about the Patriots.

It's just the story. >> defense. I like I don't know, man. I. like that defense over there in New. England. I like uh Milton Williams, my. former teammate. M Holland's my former. teammate. Yeah, it'll be interesting. I. I I'm can't wait to watch it. >> Mac Holland is like Anderson Vera. >> He is, which you know, I was a big. Anderson Verou fan. >> Who wasn't if you were a Cavs fan? >> I do think I think teams overthink the. third receiver sometimes. I think Mac, >> dude, he is a he's been amazing. everywhere he's been. He really has.

>> That's what I'm saying. They they I feel. like they're always trying to get like. this shifty like route runner. It's. like, dude, I better get a guy that just. plays ball, man. >> Dude, get into 11 personnel and have a. guy that can do all these things that. you can do out of 12 if you want to play. nickel. And I I don't know, man. I just. think he and then he's also like a. mismatch heightwise and size-wise for a. lot of the safeties trying to guard him. like anyways. All right, let's get back. on track. Stamp of the week. Stamp of. the week. Stamp of the week.

>> I'm going to go our our old uh. Cincinnati GA. >> Yeah, Jesse Mentor. Obviously, his. father is a well-renowned uh coach in. the college and NFL. And Men has been. unbelievable since he's been with the. the Chargers, really since he's been at. Michigan under Harbaugh, but um now is. the new head coach of the Baltimore. Ravens. has some big shoes to fill over. there in Baltimore. But, uh, happy as. hell for you, uh, Coach Miner, and, uh, good luck in the AFC next year, brother. >> That's a great one, Trev. I love that. that one. Um, I'm going to go I I mean,

we just talked about hating the Cowboys. and Jet and Jets Jake hating the. Patriots. I'm going to go with former. Cowboy Demarcus Lawrence. >> This is a great quote, man. >> Dude, he called this back then and I. when he said it, I was like, this is a. bit much, but god damn, I got to give. him credit now. Demarcus Lawrence said. back in March when he signed in Seattle. and left Dallas Cowboys where he had. been his whole career. Yep. >> He said, "Dallas is my home, but I know. for sure I'm not going to win a Super. Bowl there." And Demarcus Morris is now.

going to the Super Bowl with the Seattle. Seahawks. >> Damn it. >> That has aged very well. Um, he also got. into a back and forth with Micah Parsons. over this where Parsons was kind of. calling him out on his podcast or. whatever platform that was and Daw shot. some words back at him. >> and now neither are in Dallas. >> But yeah, now there's one common. denominator, but either way, uh, yeah, Demarcus Lawrence is, you know, this is. aged very well. It'll age even better if. they end up pulling a win off against. the Patriots. And maybe I should wait on. this. Should I wait until after the.

Super Bowl to make this the stamp of the. week? Is it not good enough until he's. won the Super Bowl? >> Nah, I see. You gota you gotta cash. Yeah, you got to cash in on that when. you can. >> Daw, just just the fact that you called. this and you're in it is enough for me. >> And that wraps up stamp of the week. brought to you by Adobe Acrobat. >> And that wraps up another episode of New. Heights. Thank you to Michael Stray. We've also got some more New Heights. coming this Friday with a Super Bowl. edition of Heights Hotline that you're. not going to want to miss. So, make sure.

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should appreciate them and we love you. guys. We'll see you guys uh sounds like. Friday. >> Tik Tok was trying to ban me. Trav only. three ticks in. They were trying to talk. me. >> What'd you post? >> I think it was because I had Tik Tok in. my username. My username was Jason. Kelsey hates Tik Tok. >> And they were like, we can't have that. on the platform. >> It didn't really give me a lot of good. answers. And then when we reached out, it was like you can't have Tik Tok in. your name. So, I thought about doing. like Jason Kelsey hates this app. And I.

was like, you know what? It's not worth. it. Let's just get Jason Kelsey. >> That's why Jake's best in the biz. He. said just use your name. I'm getting. banned like tomorrow. >> What' you post? >> I sometimes leave comments and sometimes. those comments aren't what people would. call helpful. >> Give us a mundane one that isn't going. to get you in trouble. >> If it's a front-facing video and you're. in your car recording it, I know I'm in. for a bad time. The second you get this. and it's like, "All right, guys. Let's. talk." I'm like, I'm already furious. If. the car is moving and you're talking. into your camera, furious. I'm not a big. selfie taker, but my TikTok right now, I.

have two that open up on my face, and I. think they're funny. So, I got to break. that trend. >> You'll be fine. You're It's ironic when. you do it. It's funny when you do it. When people are generally want to see. their own face is when I get disgusted. >> Why are you this self-confident? >> What is wrong with you? You shouldn't. feel this good about yourself. >> All right, I'm going to yell into this. camera. Let's do this.