Kylie's Perfect Mother's Day & Rory McIlroy on Masters Win, Shrink The Game & Golf Dad Tips | Ep 190

I went to Girl and the Goat, the. restaurant Travis took you to and did. not eat goat at. >> It is a fantastic restaurant. >> Nice. You get some goat nuts? >> Yeah, Travis, you're wrong. That place. rules. [laughter]. >> It's so good. >> Didn't say I hated it. I just didn't try. it. I wasn't in for goat. >> I had peanut butter and jelly pancakes, which is the fattest thing I've done in. months, and it was so god damn. >> That's the most man goat thing ever. >> It was a brunch. There's no Greek brunch. options. Ooh, chilaquiles was really. good though. But that's not Greek. either, but boy. >> Do you think if we went back that you. would be more experiment I feel like and.

we won't use this in the episode, but I. feel like Taylor has definitely. >> I got to use it. I got to use it. I got. to use it. >> We can use it. There's nothing. wrong with that. I'm not trying to say. there's anything wrong. >> He's more adventurous with food. >> Yeah, I try to act like one of the men. when I'm around her and eating foods I. haven't tried before. Yes. [laughter]. >> And she does the little airplane noises. I LIKE IT. >> BOOM. BOOM. THAT'S A CLIP. WELCOME BACK TO New Heights, ladies and.

gentlemen, boys and girls, a wondrous. show brought to you by Adobe Acrobat. We. are your hosts. I'm Travis Kelce. This. is my brother Jason Kelce out of. Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to. the Heights. Shout out to the Cincinnati Bearcats. Subscribe on YouTube, wherever you get. your podcast, and follow the show on all. social media @newheightshow with one S. for fun clips throughout the week. Man, we've got a good show coming up, and. Jason's going to tell you just how good. of a show it is. >> That's right. How good of a show is it? Well, 92% OF YOU GOT A GREAT SHOW LINEUP.

for you. We're going to be taking our. first look at some Eagles and Chiefs. rookies that we've got all of a sudden. out there in the social media landscape. Princess Kaimana is here to answer some. Mother's Day Heights HOTLINE QUESTIONS. AND RORY MCILROY [screaming] IS HERE. THAT'S RIGHT, THE BACK-TO-BACK MASTERS. CHAMPION. IS IN THE HOUSE. IT'S GOING TO BE A. DOOZY, but let's get into something. first. As you all know, the first thing. we always get into. What's that? A. little bit of that new. news.

>> Coming in hot. >> New news is brought to you by Mentos. How should we do Tickets still available. for our live show in Los Angeles. The. show is Monday, [screaming] June 15th. >> Nice. >> Link in the description. Um. check it out. Uh we are excited about. this live show. It's going to be a lot. of fun. Mainly highlighting the World. Cup, but it's a chance to just be in. front of the fans. And doing a live show.

always has that energy. Still trying to. figure some of that stuff out. Is there. going to be a goal on stage? Probably. Is there going to be some shenanigans? Most definitely. >> Most definitely. >> Should you be there? If you have time. available and can afford it, yes. It's. going to be a blast. You're going to. want to be there if you are a 92%er. If. you're not a 92%er, you probably still. going to want to be there cuz we're. going to be reading some. Uh our book, Don't Ever Question, is. still available for pre-order at. chelseaclubhouse.com. >> How about it, man? >> The book comes out June 2nd.

>> June's a big month. >> I bet this is going to be a book that. does really well on the Like. when you need to just like pass the. time, put the phone down. We don't need. more screen time. Cuz if you're anything. like me, you just sit on that phone and. then all of the sudden your turns. into like a 30-minute And then you. [clears throat] and then and you know, I. mean it's just. >> That's not good for your blood flow, Jason. >> Your your feet start like tingling. >> not good for blood flow, man. I heard a. lot of bad things happen to people that. do that for over. 30. >> [laughter].

>> Although it hasn't caught up to Dad cuz. Dad used to read those Tom Clancy books. for hours. >> It's a great spot for getting some. reading done. And this is the type of. book that would do well. I mean, there's. not a lot of continuity with it. It's. it's like a short stories. You know what. I mean? It's it's It's a great book for. the All right. Do we want to. announce Beer Bowl 2026? Yes, we do want to announce BEER BOWL. 2026. >> OH, NICE. >> WHAT are we doing with this right now? Using your phone while you poop greatly. raises hemorrhoid risk. Well, listen, you want to know what greatly raises. your hemorrhoid risk?

Squatting. Squatting greatly, much more. than any amount of screen time on the. toilet does. When you hold your breath with twice. your body weight on your back AND YOU GO. >> [screaming]. >> THAT'S A GREAT HEMORRHOID RISK, ALL. RIGHT? [laughter]. >> I almost got a hemorrhoid watching you. do that. >> Exerting gives hemorrhoids. Listen, high. achievers have hemorrhoids, kids. I. don't know what to tell you. >> [laughter]. >> You want to be a nothing in life? Care. if you get hemorrhoids or not. IF YOU'RE. EXERTING SO HARD THAT PART OF YOUR. intestine comes out your butt hole,

>> [laughter]. >> you're trying. UNTIL THEN, YOU. HAVEN'T TRIED HARD ENOUGH. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT A. HEMORRHOID IS. I'M THAT'S what I imagine. it is. >> It's in that ballpark. >> ALL RIGHT, AND WE ALSO WANT TO ANNOUNCE. THAT BEER BOWL 2026 is actually. happening. That's right, we've been. debating it, whether to bring it back or. not, and to be honest, it's just too fun. to not do. We have to do it. It's a. blast, you're going to want to enjoy it, and it's always in that last weekend in. June last weekend in June before July. 4th. We always have our OD event down.

the shore that Wednesday. Beer Bowl is. always going to be that Thursday or. Friday. We are experimenting with. Either way, we are doing IT AGAIN. FOR. $50,000, IF YOU want to be in the 2026. Beer Bowl, you need to submit a video as. to why you should be in it and what your. team name and theme is going to be. Those are the two things you must have. Also, you need to be demonstrating your. beer drinking abilities. Those are the. three criteria of every video that you.

submit. This year is going to be all new. teams with an opportunity to compete for. $50,000. >> $50,000. >> The thing we're learning the most is. sometimes when you start with. elimination events, there's people that. work up to just get there and they only. get to do one event and then their time. is up. This year we're going to do. multiple events in the first round, a. point total which will get you into the. elimination round. So we're going to try. and make it so that everybody who comes.

gets to participate which also means. more action for the fans that are there. >> Nice. >> to witness. It's going to be way more of. a hassle for the production team. Good. luck Brandon and Jet Skate and everybody. else, but that's your problem. BUT IT'S. GOING TO BE AWESOME. YOU'RE GOING TO. WANT TO BE THERE. IT'S GOING TO BE fun. as it is every year. Hopefully nobody. gets hurt like I did last year tearing. my hamstring. >> Jesus. >> Cooper DeJean will not be getting a. hammer this year. >> Wait, won't be getting hammered or won't. be given a hammer? >> Well, one of the uh uh events has been. Hammer Schlagen every year, but Hammer.

Schlagen, it turns out, is a risk when. you give drunken people hammers. >> Yep. >> uh in the middle of a competitive event. >> Yep. >> So we're avoiding the hammers. Hammers. are done. >> Nice. >> But also I think we're going to have. some fun shenanigans that Garage Beers. is participating with that will make the. event uh inclusive, meaning if even if. you're not in Beer Bowl, you can be a. part of raising some money for an. awesome foundation and uh giving back. We also got first look at some rookies. at Chiefs and Eagles mini camps, Did you see any of these clips? >> Yeah, man. I was sitting at the house uh.

checking the film, man. I saw a bunch of. stuff. >> Well, let's show some. >> I definitely saw some. Some uh some practice footage of some. madness in rookie camp. >> Oh my gosh, look at him attack that bag. >> I can't wait. Nice. >> Nice. >> Who doesn't love slow motion football, man? >> So uh that was uh Armon Watts-Jackson is. >> Second round draft pick. He's a edge. rusher. >> So outside backer like kind of like that.

like 3-4 kind of I I. I mean, I'm just going to lie. I'm not. I'm just going to put out there. I hate. the number. >> 34? >> I don't think. >> He wore that in college. >> backer? Well, yeah, good for him. It. probably has some sentimental of but for. me as an unbiased media member and. someone who knows nothing about this. young man, I don't like. 34 like. >> Since when do you like numbers? >> I hate numbers. Maybe I do like this. guy. >> [laughter]. >> I hate numbers, but I can tell that he. chose it, which makes me hate it even.

more. >> Mhm. Like you're like you're a like equipment. guy just give me a number kind of guy. >> I'm either equipment guy give me your. number or I'm going to wear this number. in honor of like a Yeah, like. >> [laughter]. >> because I want to be that number of that. position. 34 is like what is a 34? Like. >> It's a 34 outside linebacker. >> What's a 34 number. individual? >> I don't know. I got to ask Armon Mason. what is uh. >> It's a running back of sorts. >> Historically, yeah. >> Maybe a safety? >> Ooh, safety, yeah. >> Like who could wear 20 to 40s? I feel. like it was like running backs and.

safeties were 20 to 40s back in the day. >> You ever seen this man tote the. football? >> Armon Mason Thomas? >> Yeah. You ever seen him run with the. football? This guy's got. He's. >> got a nasty stiff arm. >> Ooh, who's who's a dual-threat player? >> I think last year he he messed his hammy. up. uh. taking a fumble to the house. >> Ooh. >> And absolutely dragged a guy the entire. way. >> Makes sense that he tore his hamstring. >> It was impressive. >> Can you gauge anything from watching bag. drills right there? What are you seeing. with this with. >> Absolutely nothing. No, that's just fun. content for the Chiefs to post.

>> I There's something about like. D-line drills in particular, I'm like I. don't think that's working worth. a. >> They're they're over there working on. techniques, but at the end of the day. either you're you're going to move this. human being out of your way or you're. not. >> [laughter]. >> Offensive line drills definitely make a. difference and the technique matters a. lot. >> Yeah. >> But then. I remember. Stefan Wisniewski said to me one time, he's like, "Dude, watching D-linemen do. they're like swatting your hands and. like getting like all that." I'm like, "I just feel like it always looks.

stupid. I don't like it never feels. [laughter] like. it never feels like that when I'm. actually pass blocking the guy or or. playing against him. All right, let's. look at Peter Woods' stuff and judge. him. Big Pete, let's see it. >> Peter Woods. >> NO, NO, I LIKE THAT. >> I'M NOT GOING to lie, I like the way. this look. The little burst, look at Oh. my god. I like he gets fully extended just to. hit a bag. >> You got to You got to watch that left. arm though. That left arm gets a little. high. Right here the left arm gets. that's head and neck area, Peter. We got.

to stay within the head and neck area. We got to. >> He's trying to go for the ball. >> Yeah, he's trying to go for the ball. >> I know. You got to work that technique. better. We got to work that technique. better. >> [gasps]. >> I mean, I like the little burst after. this one. HE GOES, "HA!". >> [screaming]. [groaning]. >> YEAH, I LIKE IT. I LIKE IT, TOO. >> IS THAT 99? >> 99. >> Little Wayne Gretzky action? >> Wayne Gretzky. Peter Woods. >> [snorts]. >> He's telegraphing it a little bit, but. pretty all around fan of that kind of. movement. >> Feet look good to be that big, too, man.

I like it. Nice and quick. >> All right, all right. Emmit Johnson. >> I think he was a fifth-round running. back, one of the best I think he was the. best running back in the in the Big Ten. this year. >> Are you saying he's statistically or. actually? >> Yeah, we saw him. He went to Nebraska. >> All right, [clears throat] let's see I I. just like when you're watching these. drills with the bags. if their head can stay put while they're. moving their legs fast. Like the more. that it's kind of like a golf swing. The more that upper body can remain. independent of the lower body when. you're moving through stuff like this,

to me that's a plus. That That shows. independent appendage usage. >> So, you don't want arms? So, you don't. want arm drive? >> I like the arm drives in sync. I'm more. talking about the head and shoulders. I. I I feel like if you are like very like. this, that's not a good sign. If you are. kind of stationary up top while the legs. are kind of moving all over the place, I. like that. >> I think if you're going through that. fluently and and you're getting. through it quickly, however you got to. do it. >> That's a great point.

>> Nice L trigger right there in Madden. Nice jump cut. >> It doesn't look like he's fighting it. It doesn't look like he's. aggressively fighting the turf. Who's. the best running back you've ever seen. that looked like they were aggressively. fighting the turf, Travis? I got one name in mind. >> say Pacheco was throwing his feet. >> I was not going to say that Well, he. definitely. does do that. I was thinking of somebody. who has had slightly more production in. the NFL. >> Adrian Peterson. >> That's exactly who I was thinking.

He's There are not many guys that look. like they run that hard translate into. really good running backs in the NFL. You I I I I usually prefer smoothness to. like. fighting the turf. Adrian Peterson? Jesus. >> Yeah, it's a thunder and lightning, for. sure. >> That grass was pissed off after Adrian. Peterson ran on it. It wasn't like No. gliding across it. He was getting them cleats in. the turf. Hopefully, we'll see some more.

out of Emmitt Johnson in the future. Also, Pat Mahomes is a freak. Adam. Schefter, Patrick Mahomes is on track to. participate in Kansas City's first OTAs. All right, Trav, where'd he go? >> Hm? >> Where'd he go? >> To where did he. >> Did he go to Germany? >> To Texas. >> go. >> If you're talking about that, um. >> Yeah. Did he go to Germany? Did he go to. Panama? >> No. No, he's just a hard. >> of those stem cells? >> Hard No, he's just a. hard-working American man that was in. Kansas City knocking out rehab.

and getting his leg strength. back. >> It's like my cousin Vinny. Am I to. believe that. this man's PCL grows faster. in his leg than in my leg? >> I I think that's all dependent upon um. how you handle rehab. >> Yeah, probably. I think genetics also. are more differential than instant. grits. >> Yeah. >> All right. Eagles fans hyped for Mekhi. Lemons shin angle. What's this? I have.

not seen this, Brandon. >> It's good shin angle right there. Parallel with the. >> good shin angle. I I mean, I do like the. vertical shin angle, which is what this. is. kind of showing. Tell me if I'm off on. this, trust. I like when you see more of. the lateral. ability to keep your foot in the ground. and that shin going off to the side. >> ankle flexion. That's ankle flexion. >> Yeah. >> Well, this is a form of ankle flexion, too. It's just more dorsiflexion, whereas I like. >> In terms of changing direction,

which to me makes a bigger deal on the. football field, is how well you can like. Travis does a great job with this. I've. always said he has Gumby knees, but a. lot of it comes down to how well can he. internally rotate his shins while his. foot remains on the ground. And that's where you see a lot of guys. slip is when they get too extreme and. then their foot comes off the ground and. they start slipping off the inside of. those cleats. >> no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. >> But this is I mean, anytime you uh you. have good shin angles like this and good. sh- like uh dorsiflexion, that's a good.

sign that you're going to be able to. change direction very well. >> I mean, listen, yeah, that was one of. the things you saw instantly on all the. all the film that you could see on Lemon. in in college is that his his him as an. athlete, I mean, one of the best in the draft. The fact. that he can get in and out of cuts, he's. very He's strong ass runner. Um. and his his separation on the top of. routes is just so clean and pure and. precise. So, this is Yeah, this isn't. like.

blowing my mind, but I do appreciate, you know, how good of an athlete he is. >> No doubt. >> It's not blowing my mind because I would. expect to see what I saw on film. You. know what I mean? >> Yeah, it makes sense. >> Last thing, Jake and Jason might not be friends in a. week because we've got Knicks versus the. Sixers in the NBA playoffs. I'll be. watching the Cavs versus the Detroit. Pistons. >> Why not just watch both, Travis? >> Because some of fan of the Cavs. >> But you can watch So you can just watch. other teams cuz you like basketball. >> Yeah, you're right. I can 100%. I'll.

probably watch the games that are at. Madison Square Garden because it's the. garden. Yeah, it's. >> Sure. >> absolutely epic and I can't wait to see. all the social clips of the Knicks fans. [laughter]. because it's every single year. >> Are Ben still around and everything? >> Dude, oh my gosh, hilarious. I'm just. talking about like the the not even in. the stadium just like people. on the streets talking dude. It's. hilarious, man. When the Knicks are. firing like they are right now,

man. Ah, God, I got to get to a game in the. garden, man. >> The Sixers, I don't think many people. thought they'd make it out of the. Celtics leading up into that series. Obviously, they. playing pretty damn well. Paul George is. playing really well. Embiid is back and. he's a force. >> Actually, he's unstoppable. >> Knicks, uh, I think they beat a team by like 70. points or something like that. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, the Knicks Knicks rolled the end. of that series, but. >> And obviously Jalen Brunson being from. the Villanova area area, I know him very. well. So like, you know, listen, I'm.

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>> Yeah, and I left all the time. >> you look well and also saved the day by. telling them that I wasn't in the. backseat. >> Yeah, but I waited until we were on the. freeway to tell him. >> Yeah, you waited a bit. You You wanted. to see dad run on. on the shoulder of the interstate back. to the rest stop, which I get. But yeah, these are the fun things you can expect. to experience when you are on a family. vacation and it's only going to be made. easier with Expedia. >> Here's the thing about planning a family. trip. It gets complicated fast. Everyone's got different schedules these.

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>> Oh. Okay. Don't put that pressure on Travis. >> I'm just doing what Brandon puts in the. rundown. >> I am Ron Burgundy. >> [laughter]. >> 92%ers, it's almost Mother's Day. So, we have a. special edition of Heights Hotline, brought to you by Expedia. Shout out to. Expedia. And here to help us answer your. motherly questions is the host of the. Webby Award-winning podcast. >> Oh.

>> The greatest podcast in all the land. Knock at a lie. KYLIE KELCE, COME ON IN. ONE OF. ONE OF America's favorite mothers. Got you. Happy early Mother's Day. >> Thank you. >> You guys are going to do something. special, Jason? >> No. >> Jason? >> Yeah, we always do something special on. Mother's Day. >> Okay. >> You set yourself up, bud. You really You. better start playing. >> [laughter].

>> Well, that leads us to our first. question. What would be a perfect mother. Mother's Day for you, Kylie? >> Dream Mother's Day, Kylie. >> Last Mother's Day was great. We got some. brunch, and I love brunch. >> But, what what else? Just. >> Literally literally. >> Let me write this down. Brunch. B R U N C [laughter] H. Act like I'm not here. Just make me. disappear. All right. >> Okay, brunch. >> Brunch. >> I don't know.

>> Back rubs? >> From you? >> I I got bad hands, you know that. >> That's [laughter] why I That's why I. wanted clarity on the situation. >> I scratched Ellie's back last night and. she was like, "Dad, why does it hurt Why. do your fingernails hurt but Mom's. fingernails feel good?". >> [laughter]. >> Jesus, Jesus. >> And I was like, "I'm just. >> his fingers don't bend anymore. They. won't I literally we recently called his.

hands man-mitts. >> And [laughter]. he's just walking around like this. everywhere he goes. >> should see him try to do the girls'. hair. His fingers don't bend. He goes like. this to top like this to the top of her. head. Like he's doing his palms. >> Isn't that what you're supposed to do? >> Sure. >> All right. So, what else have we got? We. got brunch. What about breakfast in bed? I heard. some woman like that. >> No. >> No? >> I don't want food in bed. >> Okay. Okay. No breakfast in bed. >> Um I want silence. >> Silence?

>> I want silence. >> That's going to be a tough one. >> Yep. >> That's going to be a tough one. >> [laughter]. >> I want 20 minutes of silence. >> 20 We can do 20 minutes. We just go. outside. We can do that. >> Who's we? You're noisy. You stay inside. >> No, we No, we all go. We all go outside. >> I go outside and you stay inside. >> So, a perfect day Mother's Day is Kylie. outside. Okay. Now we're getting. somewhere. >> you. Yes. >> Kylie outside. >> Kylie outside. >> All right. >> A little bit of quiet. >> So, a brunch picnic?

>> No. >> No? >> [laughter]. >> I want food. that I don't have to clean up after. >> Got it. Okay. >> So, brunch at a restaurant and then I. want 20 minutes outside. >> So, you just want to go to park? >> What? [snorts]. >> Or or to [laughter] the movies. One of the two. All right, perfect. >> Yep. >> Same as usual. Got it. >> Yeah. I. >> [laughter]. >> That's I am the worst person to ask girl. questions to because I.

am a creature of habit. I want to go to. the same places. I want to get the same. food. I'm not the person to ask. See, like I would be fine if you just. did What did you used to do? Candles and. earrings? >> No, Charma, that wasn't for Mother's. Day. That was a Christmas thing. >> Oh, perfect. Okay. >> Nice. You but you're you're. against candles now though. >> Well, just because he is. >> I am. I burn them when he leaves. All. right. Well, we have some Night Attack. on Voice Mails that they have asked us. about Mother's Day and we figured we'd.

bring you in as our resident expert. mother. >> Something's wrong. >> Do you want to pick some of these? >> Am I picking one? >> We're going to pick a few. >> Oh, can you just pick then? >> Okay, let's do. Wish girls understood about their moms. >> Oh, no. >> Hi, my name is Sarah. I'm from North. Carolina. I'm not a mom, but I am a. teenager. >> Seems pertinent for Mother's Day. >> And from a mom's perspective. >> Less husband attacking and more just. >> What is something that you wish girls.

understood about their moms that we. probably don't realize? Love you all. >> Love you, too. >> Love you. All right. You remember what it was like to be a. teenager? >> Yes, I do. Trash. >> And I remember that you you have told me. that most daughters in the teenage years. struggle with moms. >> Yes. Uh so, I can only speak to my. experience with my mother because I do. realize that I lucked out. My mom is a. Lo Lisa's top tier. >> Shout out to Lisa. Happy Mother's Day, Lisa.

>> My concern is is that So, this this. applies to. great moms. I don't I don't. I know that that's not everyone's. situation and I'm sorry that some moms. fall short. I know that that's some. people's experience, but what I will. tell you from my own experience is that. I I strongly that when I turned, let's. call it 15, that my mom was plotting. against me. I swore it up and down. I thought for. sure that one was trying to take me.

down. >> No, that makes sense. It's a good theory. >> When I turned 22, maybe 21, let's say. 21. Okay, let's call it 21. >> Yeah. >> I had a moment where I was like, "Oh, she's been on my team the whole time.". >> Yeah. Probably number one fan, if we're being. honest. >> But [laughter]. seriously, though. >> What So, what is what caused you to. think that she was trying to ruin your. life? >> That she was trying to tell me what to. do, and as a teenage girl, I thought I. know better than you.

Which is ridiculous to me. >> what time to be home, like the curfews, like. >> That No, I was I didn't even go out, Jason. >> [laughter]. >> So, what are we what are we talking. about here? >> Uh there was a moment in time where I. was potentially going to switch schools, and she was advocating for that cuz I. wasn't happy with like classmates and. and that sort of thing. I was more less classmates and more. class. I was not excelling academically. >> Uh got you. >> Yeah, but that doesn't mean school's. bad.

>> That's what I'm saying. The school, great. When I leave the school, you want me to. do homework? That's weird. >> Yeah. Yeah. You do the work at the. school. >> You just have me for 7 hours, and if you. didn't get out of me then, I can't help. you now. That's how I felt about it. >> mom never brought work home. She did all. of her work at work. >> Thank you. >> So, Lease was. advocating for you to leave schools or. advocating for you to just leave your. home? >> We were exploring other options for me. to. potentially go to a different school.

that could help me academically. >> Is this like one of the. >> Jason Daniel. >> [laughter]. >> Uh. I don't know where to go from here. think. >> great advice. Moms are always on the. side. >> voicemail. We can go to the next. voicemail. >> Let's go to the next voicemail. Show me. the list. I'm done with him picking. >> I thought it was a fun one. >> I thought it was a good one. And that's. good advice for all teenage girls out. there. >> They might not be rooting against you. Let's see.

Mhm. >> First Mother's Day. >> Brendan likes that one. >> I don't think this one's going to be. good, but let's go with it. Me neither. Let's go. >> Hey guys, I have a new father Mother's. Day question here. >> So my wife is Jake. >> currently pregnant, but the baby isn't. here yet. Do I still have to get her a. Mother's Day gift? >> No. Don't tell her he said that. This is again where like girl questions. I'm the bad at. I would say no. The. baby's not here yet. What I do think is.

is that if you want to do a little. something, maybe like flowers or. something small and be like I can't wait. until next year when we can when we can. celebrate your first official Mother's. Day. That's a great. segue, let's say. But I don't think that. I don't. >> You got to check some diapers. Those tits are still intact. You got a. lot of You got a lot of milestones to. overcome. >> What did you just say? Did he just say. your tits are still intact? >> That's my wife, Chase.

Bro, I'm just being [laughter] honest. >> This is what happens. >> That's my wife. >> Your tits are still intact. Tell Emily. I'm so sorry. >> I will. Thanks, Sky. I appreciate you. being on that side of the debate. That. is not what I thought was going to. happen. >> I know. That's why I'm saying I'm bad at. girl questions. God, I can't believe you. just referenced Jake's I can't believe. that you just said that. >> Go with your heart, man. If you want to. do it, do it. I wasn't saying it about. Emily. I was just saying. >> I mean you are cuz it's. about all moms. >> Well, I mean.

>> Your tits are still intact. To be fair, I really I really resonate with that. sentiment. My tits are no longer intact. >> [laughter]. >> I thought the I thought the burn was I. thought the burn was more of an attack. on you. >> What? See, I agree with those. >> All right. All right. Let's do another. voicemail. >> What's another good one? >> I want to I want a specific Kelce. household rules. >> Uh if you get into specific Kelce house. rule, the problem is you're about to get. bleeped. Jason's going to get bleeped. >> Who's bleeping me?

>> Oh, here we go. My no dumb question is. for Kylie, who I understand is going to. be on the Mother's Day podcast. My. question is this. Kylie, what's a very specific Kelce household. rule that exists purely because of. something Jason or Travis did once that. can never be allowed to happen again? >> Why are you talking that way? >> I don't even know what she asked. >> [laughter]. [gasps]. >> Her question was. >> What is a Kelce house rule that is in.

place because of something that the two. of you have done? >> [snorts]. >> We didn't really have that many like. household rules, do we, Jason? We don't. >> why they assume that there are rules. related to the stories I've heard. >> asking us. She's asking Kylie if I think. she was asking more if you implemented. rules because of stories you've heard. That's what I thought the question was. >> Yeah. So you guys didn't understand it. either. All right, cool. >> No. >> Um. >> What are the rules of the house?

>> Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. I don't. know. There are things that I would never. allow to happen because of stories I've. told that that I've been told. >> Oh, interesting. >> Okay, for instance, no one's No one's. playing in the car. >> Huh? >> You know what I'm talking about when. Travis drove it through the uh garage? >> Or when someone took a dump in the. trunk? >> Again? >> That was Travis. Yeah, both of those are. a no-no. >> [laughter]. >> Those are both Travis. >> Travis did Travis did not. >> You know what?

>> Travis went Travis went potty in the. bathroom. >> I mean, as I've seen with Wyatt, it is now. clear to me that watching Wyatt just. tell her younger sisters what to do and. egg them on. >> Don't get me started. Do not get me. started. >> accurate as to. >> that she's your child. That she is your. child. That's [laughter] what that is. >> All right, what other ones? What other. rules? >> Um. I have I have taken. into consideration how our knives are.

stored. >> Cuz we used to throw knives in the air. >> Who's we? Who is we? >> Well, the only known story is of me, but. I'm pretty sure Travis was doing it, too. >> I got in on some of that fun, for sure. >> Did you? [laughter]. >> What? >> I'm locking them in a safe. >> Who doesn't want to throw knives in the. air? >> Yeah, sounds like a blast. >> You ever seen Ninja Turtles? >> Oh, Jesus Christ. >> [laughter]. >> In our preschool endeavors, I have made. it a point to make sure that the.

teachers know that I'm siding with them. >> Yes. >> I'm trying to hedge our bets to not get. kicked out. >> Nice. Our parents sided with the. teachers. >> No, they didn't. >> Your dad literally said when it came to. the sporking that they should have been. watching you better. >> Well, I mean, they should have. I mean, he was just being honest. >> [laughter]. >> They were letting kids play with. silverware all like without any. supervision. >> spork. >> Mom, I remember Mom literally like.

vouching that, you know, we were right. the majority of the time we were in. trouble. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, like when when the stories of Jason. fighting are always that he would he. didn't start it, he was finishing it, or. he was standing up for somebody else. That was the that's the other big. >> of those times I was. >> [laughter]. >> There was a girl that was being picked. on. >> times I got in a fight. [laughter]. >> There was a girl that was being picked. on, or I thought that, and turned it out. that they were playing together, but I. thought she was being picked on, and.

uh I thought I was protecting her. >> You thought you were. teenager Turtle. >> Jason, is there a rule that you feel. strongly about in our house that. Oh, I can hear our kids. >> That's That's Elliot. What's up? >> Um, is there a rule like a house rule. that you feel strongly about? In our house currently. >> I don't I don't even know. Do we have. rules? >> I mean, we have a couple. >> [laughter]. >> The rule that I would like to change is. that the puppy is sleeping in the bed.

right now. I don't know if that's a. rule. I just want that thing out of the. bed. It is quite cuddly at times, and it's. very nice when but I my allergies are. affected. Um. >> I literally said today that you needed. to take a certain time. >> Yeah, it's getting bad. What are else I. don't know that there's. >> I will say that a rule that I've brought. from my own like my house growing up. >> My rule that you guys do not follow is. McDevitt's. That I get sometimes a little bit up. like a little upset is when the girls.

aren't eating their food. It is. my Ed Kelsey comes out and they're going. to eat that food. >> [laughter]. >> And I'm not. >> No, they're not. >> There ain't no ifs, ands, or buts. >> They're not. >> Yeah, they're not They They want to. leave the table, they will. >> No, they're not going to. Travis, as the. resident picky eater, do you agree with. that method? >> Yeah. >> That's right. >> Yep. And I had to I had to eat the. eat the I didn't want to eat. I don't know how to I get it. I'm with. it though. >> Uh, we have implemented a rule. >> be thankful.

>> YES. [laughter]. >> THERE ARE. STARVING CHILDREN IN CHINA. >> [laughter]. >> THAT ONE DOESN'T REALLY WORK ANYMORE. IT'S A THRIVING ECONOMY. >> NO, we need to say there are starving. CHILDREN IN AMERICA. WE have implemented a rule that Jason. doesn't like, which is you have to taste. it, but if you don't don't like it, you. don't have to eat it. >> No, cuz then they can just because. there's the stubborn part of Jason's. side of like the kid that's going to be.

like I don't like it already as soon as. I touches my palate I'm going to. spit it out and be like I hate it. And. then they and then they won. So they won. they won before they even. >> You got to understand guys, these kids. are half Kelsey. They're half Kelsey. If. you give them any room for like, "Hey, I. got I can got some wiggle room here to. do what I want [laughter] and not have. to listen to their mom." We're going to. take it. You got to lay down the law. Look at what Why why is it getting a. little bit. She's getting a little aggressive in.

some of the things she does. >> Mhm. >> [laughter]. >> I mean but Benny bit yesterday so. >> That's right. She's half Kelsey. >> [laughter]. >> She knows. >> [gasps]. >> Yeah. The worst part is Benny bit Wyatt. because Wyatt took something from Benny. and then when Wyatt goes, "You don't. even care that she bit me." I said, "Obviously I care." I sent her to time. out and Ellie goes, "That's because that. was karma." And I was like, "Oof." I've.

said that too many times. >> [laughter]. >> She's figuring it out. That's too good. >> Yeah. I was like, "Okay.". >> Let's do another voicemail. What else do. we want to get into? >> We can't do do pet mom pet moms count. because. >> We can do it. >> Jason's going to disagree cuz the dogs. living in the bed. >> Disagreements are good. >> Disagreements are good. >> Hey guys, this is Andrea from Casey and. I wanted to know your opinion on. Mother's Day when it comes to someone.

having pets and the animals because I. have for example three pet pigs, Gus, Georgie and Frankie. And if I say like, "Happy Mother's Day to me and my fur. children." then I get told to sit back. down because I don't have skin children. therefore I don't count. So what What. your opinions on that and do pet parents. count on Mother's Day, Father's Day. times? >> Okay, first of all, can I come over? >> She said three pet pigs?

>> Three pet pigs. >> I'm so in on that. >> Stop ducking the question. We got to. stop ducking the. >> I was about to say, I love bacon, too. >> I think you're. >> [laughter]. >> Oh god. >> Um I think pet parents count. >> Do you think pet Do you honestly Are you. being honest, or you just being nice to. to me? >> No, I'm being honest because. >> Some people can't have the kids. >> It's just not in everyone's. plans to have human children. And so, you are solely responsible for.

that being. Like, if you are a pet. parent, you are still solely responsible. for that being. Now, here's the Here's. where I think people are going to get a. little offended. Take. >> The nipples are still intact. >> Fully taking into account Jesus. [laughter] Christ. Fully taking into. account that being a pet parent is not. as difficult as being a human parent. It. is not. >> Yeah, 100%. Obviously. >> But, you're still solely responsible for the. well-being of a being. >> Well, here's the thing. This is the.

problem. Who's celebrating the mother. The The people who celebrate Mother's. Day are the people who are either like. the husband or children of the mom. Like, that's who's celebrating So, like, yeah, if your pigs want to celebrate. Mother's Day, go for it. I don't know. what that looks like. >> may have a She may have a. >> But, I'm not going and celebrating. Mother's Day for other I'm I'm. celebrating I mean, it is for all moms, but it's more like, you get celebrated. by the people that you mother to. >> Yeah, and you mother to pets. >> So, let them celebrate her. >> Okay. >> But, I'm not going to celebrate.

>> Okay. So, whoever would like to celebrate you if. you are a pet mom, whoever would like to. celebrate you, green light. We're just. not sure who's who it is. >> Whatever floats your boat, find the lost. remote. >> Yes. Ooh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Hey, yo. >> [laughter]. >> Um that takes us back to Jets Jake cuz. I'm pretty sure they have a pet. >> Jake has a dog. >> We do. We have two dogs. >> Yep. So, you Oh, so you're going to have. to you're going to have to celebrate up. >> So, this year I have to celebrate? Not.

the last five that we've had dogs? >> Do we not just be playing. Can we just make the statement that no, you don't get to celebrate Mother's Day. if you are a pet mom? >> I think that if you want to celebrate. Mother's Day as a pet mom, go the. right on and do it. >> Do you think. >> Yeah, you can It's a free country. You. can do whatever you want, but I'm not. going to partake in your imagination. land. >> You don't have to. >> this has to. Yes, that's the only reason she's. asking. She's asking if there's a. permission of like our. >> name? Happy Mother's Day to the pet mom.

>> I believe. >> Thank you. Happy Mother's Day to Andrea. I think it's really cool that you have. three pigs. >> I don't I don't feel. >> to. >> [laughter]. >> You're a mother to the pigs. >> It's I think I don't think you give. yourself a Mother's Day, though. >> Exactly. >> That's the only issue. If somebody wants. to give you Mother's Day, I think that makes more sense. I'm not. going to say, but again, do do what you. want. >> Cuz to be honest, I don't I mean, are. you going to put up your own banner? What's happening? >> For I mean, people love to celebrate, so. celebrate, it.

>> Sure, it. >> Go to brunch. Go to brunch with the. pigs. Have a good old time. >> 20 minutes outside alone, peacefully. >> Away from [laughter] the pigs. >> Away, yeah, away from the pigs. Nice. All right, well, thank you to Kai. Happy Mother's Day to. all the moms out there, either pet or. human moms. Uh. Kai, do you before you get out of here, do you want to plug anything for Not. Going to Lie? >> Mm. >> No. >> Cool. >> Once again, Hottline Mother's Day.

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TWO-TIME PGA Player of THE YEAR, SIX-TIME RYDER CUP WINNER, and he just. became the fourth golfer ever to win the. Masters IN BACK-TO-BACK YEARS. NINETY-TWO PERCENTERS, PLEASE WELCOME. RORY MCILROY! [screaming]. AND TIME OUT, WE HAVE ANOTHER THING TO. ANNOUNCE. IS today your birthday? >> Today is MY BIRTHDAY, YEAH. >> [screaming]. >> WE GOT [laughter] HIM ON HIS BIRTHDAY, BABY. Let's go. >> Wanted to spend it with you guys. Thank. you. This is uh. That's I wish my first day introductions.

were like that every single day. [laughter] That'd be really nice. >> Yeah, anytime you want, I will follow. you right where you go and personally. give you that one. Do you have any. birthday plans? Let's start there. What. do you What are you going to do? >> You know, it's sort of I do, yeah. I'm I I could. have went up to Charlotte today. We're. playing a tournament in uh the Tour. Championship. Um I could have went up. there, but I I decided to stay at home. and spend my birthday with with Erica. and Poppy. We've got a few friends. coming over later, so pretty pretty. low-key, but don't think 37's the. biggest of birthdays, but Um [laughter].

but yeah, I. I'll you know, I'll I'll spend the the. the time at home, which is which is. nice. >> There you go, baby. Well, let's let's. get to it, baby. Let's talk about what. everybody wants to hear about, back-to-back Masters, dog. I got to. catch you on a Friday and Saturday. >> you out there. >> I was screaming it, baby. Back-to-back, baby. Let's go. Let's go. >> [laughter]. >> I heard you. Um yeah, I mean, jeez, like. >> Have you touched the club since? >> I have. I have. I'm like I I I, you. know, I I I did like a a solid 10 days.

of like celebrating, enjoying it. And. then I was like, you know, I felt after. last year, I I got Not that I got. complacent, but I got a little like, you. know, this thing that you've wanted to. do your whole life and you do it. And then it's like, okay, well, what's. next? And I sort of went through that. lull, I think, that all athletes go. through, where it's like, okay, I've. achieved the dream. I've achieved. everything I've wanted to achieve. So, I. just didn't want to fall back into that. this year. So, I give myself 10 days. I. celebrated. I had a good time. But, I've. been practicing.

for the last Yeah, for the last 10 days. And, you know, there's still a lot of. golf left this season. And and I feel. like I'm in such a good spot that I. don't want to. you know, I I don't want to waste a. couple months of the season like I did. last year. So, um. But, look, I've enjoyed it, absolutely. But, you know, I feel like it's time to. to lock back in. >> Where does this one rank compared to. last year's? >> Uh I don't think anything will ever. touch last year. You know, you're. >> Right. >> it's 17 years you're waiting to do this. thing. And, you know, you get to the. point and you wonder if it's ever going.

to happen. And then just the emotion and. yeah, I don't think anything will top. just the euphoria of it all last year. But, I think this year was like. validation. Like, I proved last year. that I could do it at this place. And. then I go back and, you know, arguably. without my best stuff. I mean, I I I. built a really big lead over the first. two days. But, um to get it done in the. manner in which I did it, lost the lead. on Sunday, came back, played really. solid to get it done. Um I think just. like validation on my part that you.

know, this is this is where I should be. This is the level that I should be. operating at. >> I mean, it's also just a career. everything kind of came to moment, right? Cuz that was the last one you. needed for the Grand Slam. It's like. this whole thing that was just kind of. hovering above you. I can imagine what. that's like. I mean, Trav and I I know. we both have talked about when you win. that Super Bowl, you really like. flashback to like everything that you. did. You you go back to being like a kid. again, man. >> Thinking about all these moments growing. up. >> cleats and putting on the pads for the.

first time and you see it all come full. circle, baby. >> Yeah, all of it. And I think that, you. know, it took me it took me a while to. to process it all, you know, I I've even. talked about you know, I I dropped to my. knees when I won that first one and I I. get up and I I turn around and the first. person I see is my lifelong best friend, Harry, who's on my bag. Just like it's. just like you could you couldn't even. write it. Like it's just an unbelievable. script. So, there was a lot of stuff to. to process there and and it was my goal.

for so long and and you know, finally it. happened. It was like I I probably. needed to give myself that time. And. then this year is it's just it's it's. felt different. I you know, I didn't. even want it I didn't want to do the you. know, going up to New York and doing the. the late night shows and doing all that. I just you know, I wanted to enjoy it. with my friends, with my family. Um. >> Yeah. >> And yeah, as I said, locked locked back. in a little bit earlier than than I did. last year. >> But all all of the the. going up to New York and doing all that. stuff, it's good for the game, man. And. you're you're obviously been.

>> Yeah. >> top of the game and one of the biggest. names to ever play for such a long time. So, doing that stuff, you're kind of. giving back to the game and letting. everybody know that yeah, there's. there's somebody that just accomplished. what only five others have done in the. entire like history of this game. So, it's a that would I think that's always. kind of needed, but I hear you on on not. wanting to like get back into that after. this one. Was there any like in terms of. like before though, was there any like. prep that you did differently going into.

this one that you maybe haven't done in. years past? >> Yeah, absolutely. So, um. I actually my my last couple of events. before the Masters in Florida, I I. tweaked my back a little bit. So, I had. to pull out of the event in Orlando. And then I probably played at I don't. know, probably 75% capacity at the. Players. So, I took 3 weeks off leading into. Augusta. I think more to get my body. right. Um. And then it gave me the opportunity to.

go up to Augusta. uh. and and prepare. maybe more than anyone else in the. field. Um which I actually got a bit. little bit of for afterwards, which. was weird, but um. >> [laughter]. >> Trash on people for practicing, go. figure. >> I know. How about that? But I. uh I felt as prepared as I as I have. going in there even though I hadn't had. any like tournament reps. My game felt. good. I felt like, you know, I'd spent. so much time up there. I was so. comfortable. Um but there's always a.

little bit of trepidation when you. haven't played for 3 weeks competitively. and you haven't had a card in your hand. It's like, you know, those first few. holes on Thursday, you're just trying to. feel like how you feeling, you know, trying to play yourself into the. tournament a little bit. So, but once I. once I got through like that first nine. holes on Thursday, I felt I felt really. good and and from then on um it it was. awesome. But yeah, I I I felt as. prepared as I ever have going into that. tournament. >> Nice. Is there is there something about. Augusta National that just fits your.

game specifically? Like we hear about. these courses sometimes. I mean, it. seems like you play well everywhere. Guess every course fits your eye. >> [laughter]. >> Not quite. >> What is it that makes you so successful. down there, you think? >> Uh I think my experience. So, I've been. playing that tournament since 2009, since I was 19 years old. So, you know, I've played it I think I've played the. tournament 18 times. And it does it sets. up well for my game. I hit it high, I. hit it long. Um. and I think over the years because of. the experience I've just gotten to know.

that the greens so much better and where. to miss it. My I mean, like my short game won me this Masters. You know, just like you you And even I I. didn't drive the ball particularly well, which is usually my strength. >> Mhm. >> Um and I you know, my recovery play and. my my short game is is what won me this. So, I think I prove I proved to myself. that. I can win a lot of different ways. It. doesn't always have to be about the you. know, long straight drives and and. overpowering a golf course. I can do it. different ways, but I've always felt.

since the first time I played there that. that this was a course that that sets up. well for me and and you know, I I had. the potential to do well there. Um but. obviously that's that's easier said than. done. You need to go out there and and. hit the shots. And I feel like I was. able to do that throughout my career, but I was never really able to piece it. together for four days in a row. I'd. have like three good days and then I'd. throw in a 75 or I'd So, um you know, the last 2 years I just my bad days. weren't that bad and that's what you.

know, I feel like that's what won me the. the tournament the last couple of years. >> Hell yeah. >> Sure. >> Well, I I know you said you caught a. little bit of for the practicing. too much, which is absolutely bogus. But. um I want to know, did you catch any. for the Champions Dinner menu? Did. you get anybody coming after you saying. that they didn't want to have this or. that or. >> I had a few people from the homeland. Um. I made a clip in a press conference. where I said uh you know, people have. asked me why I didn't do more of an. Irish theme and I said, well, I want to. enjoy the dinner as well. >> [laughter]. >> SO, I.

>> [screaming]. >> I GOT. I GOT I GOT A LITTLE FROM BACK HOME. FOR THAT. That was. >> That's funny. >> Yeah. Um so, they were coming at me uh I. pretty hard for that at the start of the. week, but. >> Ah, that's too bad. I mean I think like. I think everyone I think everyone. enjoyed the dinner. I tried to do I. tried to do enough dishes that would. like please everyone. And I'm a big wine guy. I collect wine. and I have done for like the last 10. years. So. the wine selection was something that. was pretty important to me. >> Oh yeah. >> Augusta.

National's wine cellar is one of the. best in the world. >> I never heard of that. >> 20, 23,000 bottles down there and it's. all just the best vintages from. >> I didn't even know that happened with. wine. Yeah, that's ridiculous. You learn. something about this place every time. >> So yeah, I had I had access to that. So. that was that was nice as well. >> Have you already started thinking about. the next year's Champions Dinner now? >> Yeah, I I went pretty. Well, I went pretty. >> [laughter]. >> I went pretty fancy this year.

Like it's always on the Tuesday night. So I was like what I could just do like. a taco Tuesday or something. >> Hey. >> know. We'll see. I haven't I haven't. thought about it too much. But yeah, I. felt like you know. It's hot, [clears throat] right? The the. Champions Dinner the way it's set up, you're sitting beside. Ben Crenshaw is like the. the unofficial MC of the night. And then. and then on the other side of you is. the chairman Fred Ridley. And it's it's. really nice. I mean it's the spot you. want to be in. You're the defending. champion. You know, and it's a big sort. of long. table like both both side like a.

U-shape. And uh. at the bottom left corner you've got. Trevor Immelman and Adam Scott. And they. just look like they're having the best. time. >> [laughter]. >> I mean they are just. having the night of their lives. And I. said to Adam and Trevor that week I. said, you know, if I if I don't win this. year, that's right. Just save me a seat. down where you guys are. Just. And then. >> I want to be on that end. >> And then Adam texted me after. He's. like, well, looks like another year that. you'll. you got to wait another year to sit with. us. But um.

>> [laughter]. >> But it's it's an incredible night. And. like to be sitting in that room it's a. bit like. And Travis you'll feel you'll you'll. feel this you'll feel this this year. whenever you're sitting at your wedding. and you have all the people in a room. from. like like it's so it's amazing to have. all these people in the same room from. your childhood to people that you've. like it's just you're just sitting there. and it's like surreal. It's like. unbelievable. Now the only thing that I. can compare to is is your wedding day. because it's like all this collection of.

people in the same room. It's like wild. >> I can't wait. >> As a golfer it's a privilege of a. lifetime. >> You got to give me your wine choice. though. What what's your where what are. we doing our favorite kind of wine for a. celebration? Where we where we going? >> Uh. France, Bordeaux. >> Bordeaux. >> Bordeaux. >> Yeah, Bordeaux. That's my that's my. go-to. >> On it. Deal. >> Yeah, there you go. >> Simple. >> All righty. >> I know you're more of a wine I thought. you'd be more of the Protestant whiskey. up there in Northern Ireland. Is that. >> Bushmills and all that stuff? >> Yeah, yeah.

>> Yeah, so. no I'm not like I'm not a big liquor guy. at all, but I was thinking of doing like. a certain cocktail with a Bushmills in. it just to try to a little bit of a nod. back home. So I might try to do. something like that next year just to. appease all those people I pissed off. >> [laughter]. >> We're going to talk a little shrink the. game if that's all right with you. >> Shrink the game? >> Yes, absolutely. Jason's been getting. attacked. >> A very. >> Yes, you have. Yeah. >> Did he ruin the par 3? >> No, you like I thought you were very.

additive to the par 3. >> Nice, man. >> very additive. >> Thank you, brother. >> I think so. >> I appreciate I mean it's a part of me. gets it because I feel like golf is. growing more than ever. >> In any sport. >> The sport is exploding right now and. with that growth I think in any sport. naturally comes like it starts to change. and people that have been around it for. a long time are like, "Hey, I don't know. that I like where it's going." And in a. sport like golf that's so based in. history and tradition. I think that. the shrink the game movement isn't that.

surprising that it is happening with. golf. I think with golf at Augusta. two in particular, it's like there's. more tradition and history with that. place than any other. So, it's like the. symbol of what golf has come from. But, at the same time. I think the sport growing is good for it. at the end of the day. It's just. there's going to be this natural tug and. pull of like, how do we grow this thing, but also celebrate and keep these, you. know, these what has been awesome and. made golf special still a part of this.

change in. having it progress and move forward all. at the same time. >> Absolutely. Like I I I agree. Like I. think it is like I the one of the. one of the silver linings, at least for. golf post COVID, has been this explosion. in the game. And my thing is like, I. think when people say grew the game, they mean different things. To me. to me what the real thing of growing the. game is is growing the participation in. the sport, right? Getting more people to.

play the game. Like, I feel like. especially on the in the professional. world when or like the PGA Tour world, when people talk about growing the game, they're talking about growing like the. fan base and growing like the people. that watch the sport, which is a part of. it, but I think growing the game is. actually getting more people to play. >> Yeah. >> Like I think that, you know, golf is a. participation sport. Like you want. people to play. So, like that to me I'm. doing if if if what ESPN did, for. example, at the Masters.

encourages people to go and play the. game, I think that's amazing. >> Yeah. >> I think that's absolutely incredible. Like, and and yes, Augusta is very. traditional in its ways, and golf is. very traditional, but I don't think any. other golf organization. pushes the envelope as much as Augusta. does because like they had Dude Perfect. like doing all sorts of stuff on Amen. Corner a couple years ago. And they you. know, they've embraced what you guys did. with the par three and like they they're. always like.

you can't like. the golf's demographic is old. How do we. get it younger? And then if you get the. young people in early, then then they'll. [clears throat] be in golf for the rest. of their life. Like that's that's a. really good thing. So, I'm not. I think there's certain values and. traditions in golf that should stay. because I think it teaches. young people good lessons. Like whether. it be like fall like look at Cam Young. yesterday calling a penalty on himself. at the Masters. Like that stuff is. really important. But I think you can.

still uphold the values and the. traditions of the game. but still. um. appeal to like a younger demographic. I. don't think those two are I think you. can do that both at the same time. >> Call me a cheater, Rory. I'm not telling. them. I'm not doing it. [laughter]. I need every stroke I can get, dude. I might even move it a little bit onto a. better lie. I might just go ahead and. pull that thing off [laughter] of. Now I'm like this ball right here. I. might just go ahead and move this a. little bit. >> We'll let it. We'll let it go. It's fine. >> Yeah, we'll we'll take that [laughter]. out. We'll take that out.

>> The people that are talking about shrink. the game, it's like you you look at what. Augusta does and all the traditions and. the values and then. you know, some of the some of the things. that they've tried to do to modernize. and and you know, basically just try to. fit in with the 21st century. It's. jarring cuz it's such a it's such a. contrast. So, I think there's some. people that are just a little uneasy. with that, but. like if we're really trying to grow the. game, like. this is this is a part of it. You need.

to try to lean into pop culture and. what's relevant at at this in this day. and age and I don't see anything wrong. with that. >> Nice. So, you're more of a grow the game. guy, you would say. >> Yeah, I'm more of a grow the game guy. Like the more people playing golf, the. better. >> Yeah. >> And however you do that, whether that's. from. Topgolf or obviously you were you guys. were at TGL and trying to appeal to a. younger demographic or you know, some of. the other initiatives that like you. Yeah, I I that's a that's.

obvious. It's obvious. But but growing. the game but still upholding the. traditions and values that that golf. has, again, I think you can do both. >> I love it. Well, one of the things that was my. first time being at a par-3 that I loved. and we've seen all the clips like Poppy. obviously like that clip will be. cemented in my brain of that putt. Shane. Lowry's going crazy. I mean, that is. such an awesome moment. >> Yeah. >> That is the cool thing about that par-3. Everybody's family, their wives, their. significant others, their friends. Is. that as unique to you guys as it appears.

to us in the sport of golf? >> It is. I think um like you're you're. basically getting ready for what is, you. know, arguably the biggest tournament of. the year. Um but you have this afternoon. with your family on Wednesday that just. makes you forget about everything that's. going to happen for the next four days. You know, Poppy talks, you know, she's. probably talking about the par-3 for. next year already, right? It's just. like, you know, you got to you know, she grows so you. got to get her another boiler another. white boiler suit that fits and you got.

to like just [laughter] and she's just. so excited to go out there and spend. time with her friends. It's incredible. It's like it's the it's the most amazing. um day for the family. Um and I think. the nice thing for us is we're we're. we're very close with the Lowrys and. with the Fleetwoods. So, to have all the. kids spend that time together um and. make those memories as they grow up. I. mean, they're going to grow up like with. that, you know, every every year and you. know, the the focus this year was will. Frankie clear the water?

>> I know. >> And next year, I mean, it's the same. thing. Will Frankie. Will Will Frankie clear the water? Like. it's a it's a par-3. >> He was close. >> He was. He was close. And so was Iris. She and Shane's daughter Iris was pretty. close as well. So, but it's just It is. It is amazing. It's It's one of the. coolest things about the Masters and. like if people don't like it, like. that's you know, they have to look at. themselves and look at their own lives. because it's just it's it's families. having fun and honestly, it's a great. image to portray to the rest of the.

world that that golfers are human beings. and they're enjoying time with their. families and it's it's a really nice. thing. >> Hell yeah. >> Absolutely. >> I will say this, the one thing so I I. went over to Dublin for the to watch the. first NFL game over there. >> Yeah. >> Was it the Steelers and. It was Steelers and Vikings. >> And Vikings, yeah. >> And the atmosphere was incredible, but. it was my second time going over to. Ireland. My wife is her whole family, the McDevitts, so they have a bunch of. >> Oh yeah, she's into Irish dances and. everything. >> No doubt, but um.

the golf culture there is incredible. And I was there actually with Bill. Murray and one of the things he pointed. out was that in Ireland, a lot of the. caddies actually belong and are members. of the courses. And it just felt more like a communal. vibe the entire time when I was out. there. It was spectacular. Loved every. second of it. >> So there's there's no real like purely. private golf courses. It's all like a. sort of blend of public and private. They're all like semi-private. So you.

have you have you have memberships, but. then they're also open to the public um. at certain times of the day or certain. tee times and it's it's a. it's a it's a better way I feel a better. way to do it and it's definitely more. accessible. um. because even you get to like even I. don't know how much they're charging to. get into Tri National or like here at. the Bear's Club, you're having to pay a. million bucks to get like all this sort. of stuff. It's like like it just is so. foreign to me and I think if America. could get a little bit more of that. where golf is like I don't know if.

you've been down here and have you seen. the park in West Palm Beach? Do you know. do you know about the park? >> No, where is it? >> It's like a pub it's like a public golf. facility. um and it's been. it's amazing. It's like Gil Hanse did it. for free and it's been a lot of like. these investors that put money into it. But, it's honestly if the park in West. Palm Beach could be replicated like 50. times around the country, like that. would be an amazing way to grow the. game. There's like a There's like a. par-3 course called the Lit Nine that.

opens until like midnight. >> Oh, >> It is like the best communal sort of. It's and it's for it's purely for the. community. So, if you're. if you're like within like a 10-mi. radius of of West Palm Beach, I think. you get to play the course for like 60. bucks. But, for people coming out of. state, it's like 250. >> That's awesome. >> So, it's like purely for the local. community. So, like that's the I think. that's. It's hard though because you need. wealthy people to like donate money and.

that's the hard thing. >> It's hard to make it pencil out. We're. dealing with actually in Philadelphia. and Tiger's been a good part of it. Cobbs Creek is. Yeah, which I think that is strictly. public and maybe there is a pri- I'm not. sure the parameters of that, but there's. a whole like learning center that. Tiger's built and it's very like. community based. >> Yeah, more of more of that stuff is like. And then, I think Augusta did one called. the Patch. which is just over like close by like I. think more of those sorts of places. would be would be amazing. >> I actually played nine at the Patch.

before one of the rounds of year down to. Augusta. That place is spectacular. >> You didn't break 50. >> I did great. I was I was I was having. one of the rounds of my life. I didn't. [laughter] even I thought I was going to. pull hook this thing onto the airport. There's a There's a landing strip right. there. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> [laughter]. >> All right, we're going to get to this. last section. Let you enjoy your. birthday. We got to ask. >> We got to ask. You don't have to answer. You tell us off, too. >> We just talked about Poppy. Uh, I am also a girl dad. I'm trying to. get my daughter into golf. Do you have. any advice?

>> Uh, I Look, I think. I don't know if I have advice. I just. think it's to me uh a golfer, um. I don't want. Poppy to associate golf with me like. leaving and not spending time with her. So, the more that I can get her on the. golf course and playing and enjoying it, I think that's but in in terms of advice. like just make it fun. I mean, whatever. that means like let them drive the golf. cart or, you know, like have it be where. okay, we go play golf and then we'll go.

get ice cream or we, you know, like to. not to treat going to the golf course. like that then you get a reward, but. just more that like just that they have. like a positive I don't know positive. view Yeah, experience and view of it. Like I. but I will say that, you know, Poppy. takes a lesson from from the local pro. here. Um and he can get her to like stand and. concentrate and do stuff for 40 minutes. I can't I literally can't get her to do. something for 5 minutes on the putting. green. So,

>> [laughter]. >> like there is I. it is just something where you know, kids just, you know, at some point don't. want to listen to their parents and but. they'll but they will listen to other. people. Like to me I I I obviously want. golf to be a part of Poppy's life, but. like if she takes an interest and wants. to play more, that's great, but if not, like I just want her to have a positive. view of golf, whatever that means. >> Oh, yeah. >> Absolutely. And also instill those. morals and everything where she is. calling her own penalty, unlike somebody. like Travis Pastrana. >> Yeah, exactly.

>> Our dad had a very Our. >> [laughter]. >> Our father had a very similar approach. He always wanted us to just, you know, if we picked up the sticks or if we. picked up the sport then the following. year, he was like, I did my job. I did. They're enjoying this. They're They're. pursuing it on their own. He was a. little league baseball coach in the. community like league growing up for. such a long time. One of the coolest. things I ever heard was like, "Dad, do. you like Do you Do love winning? Like. what what's making you do this?" He's. like, "I just love it when I see the. kids pick up the bat the next year or. sign up for it again the next year.

because they had such a good time doing. it when they were they were playing this. year. So I think it's such a cool thing. to just try and like force these kids to. enjoy themselves more than really lock. in on you know, making it a grind at. such a young age. >> Absolutely. And even like for like if. you're still like for me playing. competitively, if I do get myself in. that little bit of a funk or it's. starting to feel like a job, like just. reminding of your reminding yourself. yourself of why you started to play the. game in the first place. >> There we go.

>> We do have a a swing that we'd like you. to critique if that's all right. [laughter]. >> I might not be as good as Max Homa but. well, let me let me. Max was giving me some tips. This is a. different swing. >> Oh, look at this. >> This is my daughter Wyatt. First time. picking up a driver. >> Are they hunter boots? >> Oh yeah. Oh yeah, she's got some rain. boots on. >> So perspective, we went to I took her to. the driving range. Normally she'll just. go putt, right? And I'm starting to hit. and she's like, "Hey, can I [laughter]. hit a couple?" So we go to the like the. guy who runs this specific specific.

range and ask him if he has a kids. driver. And sure enough he has a pink. driver. First time swinging the club. God's honest. Here we go. Well this is actually maybe 50 times it. but first day, first day. Dude, strike. >> Yeah. >> Proud dad right here. Dude, what do you. think? She's got it, right? >> [laughter]. >> Jason. >> Pretty good. I mean I think the first. thing is the first thing that I did with. Poppy was try to get her to grip the. club properly. And it looks like she's. got a pretty decent grip. >> So that was difficult cuz the first time.

she grabbed it she had the left hand on. the bottom. She's like got it reversed. Yeah. Which some guys are doing now. There's that one kid one of the. amateurs. You see that? >> Yes, I did. >> The the guy in the the little the guy in. the drive chip and putt. >> Mhm. >> Yes, yeah, yeah. That's what. >> Yeah, yeah, he had the yeah. I mean like. you look at like a Matt Fitzpatrick. He's left below right when he's. chipping. There's a few guys doing that. But pretty good. Like I mean some. potential. >> Some potential. She's got it. >> I'm going to get the I'm going to get. the I'm going to get the I'm going to. get the dryer. I'm going to get the. dryer out in the backyard so she can.

start chipping with that. >> That's it. Yeah. Yeah, make sure it's in. the backyard because I I broke one or. two windows doing that in my mom and. dad's car [laughter] when I was a kid, so. >> It's all right. Jason deserves to get. his his windows broken from when he was. a kid. >> [laughter]. >> Full circle moment. Um, you've done The Devil Wears Prada sequel. and the Happy Gilmore sequel. Are you. kidding me? You're a movie star now, man. How about that? >> I'm not a movie star. If you If you. watch me act, you will tell [laughter] I. am not a movie star. I That is not but.

um yes, Travis, both of us in Happy. Gilmore 2, which was very cool. Sandler. is like the coolest guy alive. >> Absolute legend. >> Yeah, so the Devil Wears Prada thing was. so random. Um. I won the Players Championship last year. and they asked me afterwards like what. did you do last night to prepare? I. said, well, I had dinner and I got back. to the room and I watched Devil Wears. Prada. Like I was. So not. >> Get in the zone. >> Not knowing exactly and not knowing that. the director David Frankel somehow got. wind of it and his uh his son is.

actually a really really good player. trying to make it as a pro at the. minute. Played college golf at I think. it's Stanford. >> Nice. Oh, hell yeah. >> So So the the team reached out and said, look, Dave was wondering if you'd want. to do some sort of cameo and I said to. my wife Erica, I'm like, yeah, do you. What do you think? And she's like, yeah, absolutely. >> You got a deal. >> [laughter]. >> And I was And then I text back and said, um do you think uh do you think Erica. could be in it, too? And they're like, sure, bring her along. I was like, this. is so um we spent the day in New York.

and did it and it was it was an. unbelievable experience. Um but yeah, like I again, I I I have a day job and. that is I I am. I It's cool to be able to do these. things and it's cool experience being on. a movie set, but uh I am not cut out for. that. It is [laughter] They Those guys, it's long days and it's it's it's a. grind. It is it's a grind. >> Have you ever tried out the Happy. Gilmore swing? Have you ever tried to. perfect that? >> I I haven't tried to perfect it. I've. tried it. Um I think we all did like any. kid that grew up like when the first.

movie came out. >> For sure. >> But yeah, no, it's And in fairness like. I mean back in the day like Sandler was. so good at it. >> Dude. >> Right. Like he's very really good at it. I mean he's he can it's. um but no, I I. yeah, I'm not I like I like like. >> routine and structure. >> and like anything that's like a little. bit out of my out of my zone, I'm I'm. not great with. >> Oh, yeah. >> Well, you I mean legendarily one of the. furthest drivers on tour. Like what is.

your average drive on tour right now? >> I'd say I average like three I don't. know 325 330. Probably average like 320. in the air. >> Oh, nice. Soft land. Nice. >> I've worked on it. Um. I would say like pre-COVID Like I I. bring it back to So pre-COVID I was. probably like. I was probably carrying the ball like. 305-ish. So I'm probably like 15 yd longer in the. air. Um but to me the big turning point. was after COVID when we all came back.

out to play, Bryson had put on like 40 lb and he was. hitting the ball so far and then he went. to Wingedfoot. Um and he won the US Open at Wingedfoot. playing. playing in a way that I never thought. could win a US Open. >> Right. >> You know, completely just you know, wasn't really it wasn't caring about. hitting fairways but just hitting it as. far as possible. And then going. out into the rough. Yeah, and it just. made me rethink a little bit. Be like. and I I probably started to chase the.

distance. um a little too much. But then I sort of have found a bit of a. happy medium where you know, I've done. some good work in the gym and you know, I'm certainly faster than I once was. And yeah, I got to a point where I can. swing it with speed, but not at the. like not not having my swing deteriorate. and getting into bad habits. So, but it's it's the game has changed. Like. and I would say. I'd say like not to blow my own horn,

but I'd say myself and Dustin Johnson. back in like 2011, 2012, we sort of. changed. We Yeah. We sort of changed the way the game was. played for a little bit because if you. look before that and like Tiger had a. success, there was a lot of like. conservative strategies, irons off tees, fairway woods off tees. And then when DJ. and I came out, we just were like. aggressive, driver everywhere. >> Blasted. >> And then I think Bryson almost took it. to another level again. So, and then you. have to.

you know, like you guys know, like in any any. profession or or anything you do, you're. always trying to look for ways to get. better. And you're looking at your. competitors, you're looking at other. guys and like, "Okay, what do they do. that I can't do?" Or what can So, you're. always just trying to to figure out ways. to to do it a little bit better. >> No, it is and especially in a day and. age where there's so many analytics. Like to your point, like a lot of the. analytics support just get as close to. the hole with your next shot as. possible, right? Par five, just go for. it on your second shot and just get up. and down if you're if you're off by a. little bit, count especially if you're.

the type of players that are on the PGA. tour, you try and just get a rescue shot. in there. But it is interesting in. football, it's the same thing. Like. these analytics get pushed in a way that. eventually they're being pushed so much. that you're doing it at a level that's. counterproductive. >> Yes. So, it's like you still. have to be smart within that exact. parameter as well. It's the same thing, you know, that happens in our sport. Like everybody sees these big plays down. the field like, "Hey, we should just be. striking for big plays." And it's like,

"Hey, now everybody's playing these soft. prevent defenses. You're not taking. what's underneath and it's. >> Yeah. >> Once the analytic is no longer the way. to win. Sorry, I'm going to. >> No, I know. Absolutely. Well, it's it It has to It's. very It depends on the situation, right? Sure. Like it's not like if you've got a. I don't know, a third. third and three, you're not going to. like. that's not what you're going to do. You're not going to go for the long ball. over the top and you're like it's. >> Until you do. >> Until you do. Until you do.

>> [laughter]. >> BUT YOU KNOW THAT THEY DON'T THINK THAT. YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY. >> YEAH, SORRY. >> UNTIL you have Travis Kelce on the. field. I would like Yeah, it is very It's. situational and you have to because the. analytics and the stats can't. They can't cover everything and they. can't tell you like in this scenario or. that scenario. It's like sometimes you. got to go with your gut instinct and and. sort of throw the numbers out the out. the window at some point. But they are. They're They're a good They're a good.

guide. They're certainly a good guide, but I don't think we should in anything. I don't think we should rely on them. because we're all We're all athletes and. we all. We all got here not because of the. analytics of the stats. Yeah, they might. have helped in some ways, but because of. ability and intuition and trusting. yourself and you know, there's all of. that as well. >> Do you have a Mount Rushmore of golf. courses? >> Ooh, of golf courses. Um. >> What's your top four? >> How many was that four? Um. >> Yes. >> Yeah, sorry.

>> Yeah, I was about to say yeah. >> [laughter]. >> I should I should probably know that. >> We've never asked that to somebody not. from America. That's [laughter] good. >> Uh okay. I would say um. It's. okay. I would say I'll I'll go four. different places. I'll go. um Kingston Heath. in Australia. >> Okay. >> I would go. uh.

Royal County Down in Northern Ireland. >> County Down. >> I would do Pine Valley. >> Ooh. on the East Coast and then I would. do Cypress Cypress Point. Cypress Point. is on the West Coast. >> Yeah, that's so hard because like. there's so. >> like there's I'm leaving like so many. great golf courses. It's hard to do four. but like yeah, those would be the four. off the top of my head. >> I'll take this. You just took us around. the world. This is pretty dope. You got. four that I haven't played so. I'm excited to try to play all. [laughter] four.

>> Yeah, but you did you played Pebble. Beach this year. >> Let's see what uh Rory's over here. talking about what the best course is. and see what this thing's heading for. I. did I played Pebble and I was just like. there was one point where you're I think. I think you're on Pebble's like uh. like one of the par threes down by the. water on the front nine and you're like. looking over at Cypress. >> And that's at Spyglass. That's at. Spyglass. >> was Spyglass. >> Yeah, that's that's yeah, third third. green is Spyglass, yeah. >> And I'm just staring at it. I'm just. like that place looks pretty. epic. I'm just like and everyone raves.

about it, man. >> Yeah, like it's those sort of old. traditional golf courses that have all. the history and all the again, it's like. it's going back to that grow the game. thing. I think there's you know, that's. a cool thing about golf and all these. historical golf courses and all that. stuff but then you know, that doesn't. have to be mutually exclusive to then. appealing to a different demographic as. well, right? I mean I think we can enjoy. both within the game. >> Jason, I was up I was up in I was up in. Philly on Friday played Aronimink. >> Oh, really? You getting ready for the. championship? >> Getting ready for the PGA, yeah.

>> Yeah, what what do you think? >> It's good. It's looking really good. No. one there's no one There's no one on the. course since October, I think. So like. not a divot in the fairway, not a pitch. mark on the ground. >> That's [laughter] got to be beautiful. >> Really nice. >> It's in good shape. Do you have a. favorite course in the Philly area that. you've played? >> Uh it's probably Merion. I don't I don't. have I I don't have much like I've. played most of them but I would say. Merion. I think do you would you call. Pine Valley in the Philly area? >> No, I would say I mean it's South. Jersey. I mean it's it's close enough.

but yeah, >> I heard Mike Trout's place is supposed. to be really good. >> I just played it yesterday. >> Yeah. >> Thanks for the invite, Jason. >> Ate me alive. The wind was blowing. It's. long. >> Yeah. >> I suck. Lot of reasons. >> [laughter]. >> What course hasn't hasn't ate you alive? >> Good point. Good point. No, they did a. fantastic job with that place. >> Yeah, it looks really good. >> How many times will you play Will that. be the only time you'll play around in. me before the championship or the PGA?

>> Uh so, I go I'll play uh Charlotte this. week and then I'll just go straight. there. Yeah, so Charlotte's like it's a. good you know, it's a it's a it's a big. tournament, but it's a nice warm-up to. to go into the PGA, you know, especially. after having 3 weeks off. >> I hear this a lot of about the. difference of like the turf between like. the south, especially down in Florida, versus like the northeast. How does that. change your approach? Does it alter. things that much? >> I always wanted to know this. >> Yeah, so around the greens is definitely. different. So, Bermuda. you notice them the most difference when.

you're chip it like chipping and on the. rough like Bermuda grass is Yeah, it's I. it's probably my least favorite grass to. chip out of. So, it's a good thing I. live in Florida cuz I got a bit more. practice. [laughter]. Yeah, northeast it's like thicker. blades. Um. it's a little more predictable. I think. if you're chipping out of the the rough. in the northeast, that sort of bent. grass or rye grass, it's a little more. predictable. Uh which is nice. And then, yeah, the turf is different. The club. gets through the grass a bit easier. I'd. say most players prefer to play off that.

sort of turf. >> Is that more similar to what's over in. the UK and Ireland? Or is that even. different up there? >> It's a little Yeah, cuz we play mostly. links courses. It's a little more It's. different. It's uh it's firmer turf. Um. and it's but it's very um. I guess the grass would be quite. um. What's the word? Like fine. So, it's. fescue grass. It's it's fine and it's. it's uh. Yeah, it's it's it's different. Yeah. >> Yeah, I'm like a cow. I like I love the.

fescue. >> Yeah, there you go. [laughter]. >> This guy. So, when did you get your. agricultural disease degree? >> [laughter]. >> Dude, it's so crazy that you have to. know like which grasses are like fine. and which like it's which way they grow. and everything. Like it's crazy. Or at. least if you want to be a nerd about it, which I feel like all of the best like. athletes in the world are like they love. their profession so much they want to. know it to that detail. You know what I. mean? >> Yeah, I think you get you get it through. experience. I don't think I mean, did I. want to know about different grasses and.

different grains? [laughter] Like no, but I. >> Right. >> But you have to you have to learn you. have to learn how. you know, the ball reacts on certain. greens and it just and I think for me. like, you know, growing up not from here. and then I guess the first couple of. years of my career playing all over the. world. So, going to the Southern. Hemisphere, playing in South Africa, playing in Australia, playing in Asia, you know, you you just you you have to. figure it out. You know, you and you and. you have to be adaptable and and I think.

that's been one of the. probably one of the hallmarks of my. career and and one of the big reasons. for my consistency is I've I've learned. how to play in a lot of different. environments. >> Well, I got to say Rory, the probably. the most difficult environment I've ever. played in was Northern Ireland at a at a. club called Ardglass. Have you played. Ardglass before? >> I have played Ardglass and Ardglass is. the home course of my. of my coach Michael Bannon. So, Michael Michael Bannon's been my coach. since I was 7 years old. Um and that's.

his that's his home course. >> It was stunning, the views, everything. And I got the true Irish links golf. experience. I mean, I got all seasons. and in 18 holes. The front nine, [laughter]. double rain gloved up, like freezing, trying to hit this ball. It was but I. had a blast. There's something about. being in those environments like when. it's like that that you kind of forget. about trying to shoot your best round. All the stress gets put out of it. It's. like, "Dude, I'm just going to enjoy.

what's happening right now cuz this is. absolutely crazy.". >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's a part of. it, right? We play an like outdoor sport. and I think that is all a part of it. I. would say like I grew up in that stuff. and. you know, I I've lived in Florida for. the last 14 years, so I probably got a. little soft. Like I I used to be. [laughter]. you know, after school I'd go out in. that stuff and and then I I think about. it like like nowadays it's not a it's. not a very nice day here and it's like. maybe drizzling and I'm like, "I don't.

know if I want to go practice today.". >> [laughter]. >> Let me ask you this. Have you ever Are. you a. double rain glove guy when it gets too. crazy or you just. >> I am. I think I looks terrible. I mean, I think it makes us look so soft, but. it's just. Yeah, it's it Yeah, yeah. You have to be. able to hold up You have to be able to. hold on to the club. I think as well. like the the wetter those gloves get. like the tackier they get. So it's like. you don't have to worry about drying. your grips or like it's just Yeah, it. makes it a bit easier, but it does make.

us look incredibly soft. >> I embrace it. I embrace the softness. I. have to. All right. >> It's that Hey, look, you you like you. did what you did for a living for a long. time, so you're No one can No one can. say you're soft. >> Who questioned that? All right, fair. enough. All right. Do you have a welcome. to professional golf moment? We ask. every kind of guest here the welcome to. their career. Like what was the moment. where you're like, "Man, I'm really in. the on the PGA tour and. >> Yeah, it was probably even before that. I um. It's a really it's a random one. Um.

I played in the third round of the. Singapore Open in 2008 with Ernie Els. >> Ernie, the Big Easy. >> Ernie, the the Big Easy. who ended up becoming a a great I. great friend of ours and. um but I played with him. and it was my first full year on tour. I. was doing pretty well. I was trying to. get into the top 50 in the world so I. would qualify for all the majors the. next year and I'm paired with Ernie.

And we tee off the first hole at Sentosa. Golf Club. And I don't know this is. really I I don't know why this sticks. out so much but um. I hit a three wood off the tee. and he hit a driver. And I got up there and I was like 10. yards past him with my three wood as he. was a driver and I was like. okay, here we go. And I was like holy this is. >> [laughter]. >> and that's all it took. I was like I. belong. I just hit my three wood past. Ernie's driver. I belong. That was like a big you know Ernie was.

he's obviously a great player four major. championships and you know you know one. of the best players um of that. generation and it was just sort of like. and I think I I ended up beating them. that day by a few shots and that was. like a. that was like a big it's like a big. moment for me. >> That's crazy. >> Yeah, 18 18 years ago. >> Hold it down for the big guys swinging. the sticks man. God I wish. [clears throat] I could have that tempo. >> Dude, appreciate appreciate the time. appreciate the stories man. Happy.

birthday again. >> Thank you. >> Good luck up in. up in Philly and I'll roll first over in. Charlotte and then up in Philly man. You. know we'll be watching always rooting. for you brother. >> Appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. guys. It's been awesome. >> All right, THANK YOU TO RORY MCILROY THE. BACK TO BACK MASTERS CHAMPION. GOOD LUCK. THIS WEEK AT THE Truist and that. conversation was brought to you by Sleep. Number. once again. And that wraps up another. EPISODE OF NEW HEIGHTS. THANK YOU TO. KYLE AND Kelsey and Rory McIlroy. Reminder there are still tickets. available for our New Heights live show.

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>> [music]. >> We didn't address that woman referring. to it as skin children, though. I feel. like we kind of glossed over that in the. voicemail that I didn't love. >> I didn't. >> I didn't love. I was with her until she. said that and I wanted a more of it. >> want to go there. >> What did she say about children? >> We all made a face. Everybody made a. face when they heard it. We can all just. move on, but I did hear it. You heard. it, too.

>> I didn't hear it. >> I didn't even understand what that woman. was talking about. >> Didn't love it. I don't like that. phrase. I don't think we need to I think. I'm with her until she used that and we. can stop that phrase right now. >> That's fair. >> I'm just real confused on what skin. children means. >> She called her pets her fur children. >> I saw the fur children. I saw I heard I. remember hearing the fur children. >> She called her pets her fur children and. she said because I don't have skin. children, people don't consider me a. mother. >> Don't like that. >> Don't pigs have skin? Isn't that like.

one of the things that's like very. similar to like pigs and humans?