Jon Hamm on Meme Life, Busted Brackets, Masters Dinner Debate & A New Bearcat in Town | Ep 185

Chief's Kingdom member. >> certainly so yes. >> perhaps the sexiest member of Chief's. Kingdom. >> maybe I mean you know the RD's in there. s is in there I mean come on there's a. lot. >> so sledded. >> it's a hot kingdom. >> that's RIGHT. welcome back to new heights ladies and. gentlemen boys and girls a wry show. brought to you by AT&T your host I'm. Travis Kelce my big brother Jason Kelsey. out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout.

out to the Tigers, but also shout out to. the Cats and their new hire, Coach. Calhoun, coming over from Utah State. Man, we're pumped that he's finally back. at UC. And uh I'm sure we'll talk about. that in a little bit, but uh subscribe. on YouTube, wherever you get your. podcast, and follow the show on all. social media, New Heights Show with 1S. for fun clips throughout the week. We're. going to have a bunch this week as Jason. tells you what we have coming UP THIS. WEEK. >> 92%, WE GOT ANOTHER AMAZING episode. coming up. We're going to talk A LITTLE. GOLF. AHA, THE BEST MAJOR OF THE YEAR IS.

COMING UP WITH THE MASTERS. WE GOT JOHN. HAM. LITTLE FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS SEASON. 2 sneak peek. We're going to talk a. little March Madness. And for all of our. Bearcast listeners, the new men's. basketball COACH JARED CAL. >> LET'S GO. >> Big episode. Big big episode. Let's get. into a little. >> new news coming in high. This week's new. news is brought to you by American. Express and we're going to have some new. news of their own. Oh, okay. American.

Express is now the official partner of. the NFL. Big. >> Oo, huge news. DAMN. OH, MAN. American Express. >> Yeah. Nothing says America like the NFL. >> Jason Kelsey IS NOW A TWOTIME. sports Emmy nominee. That's right. nominated a second time for outstanding. sports personality. emerging on Air Town. You are emerging. as the greatest.

sports personality in sports. I can I've. seen it since the first day that you. showed your tits on ESPN that you were. going to be great and now you're getting. nominated for an award that shows just. how great your personality is. Jason, um, how many years until you're not no. longer emerging? >> Yeah. How How long is that? >> Um, I I don't know. I don't. >> Well, how does it feel to be nominated. again? Jason, >> do you want me to be honest? >> No. Be kind. >> Okay. Feels great.

>> Nice. >> Love every second. >> We're Your family's proud of you. >> I'm honored by the men and women that. make these decisions. The reason I think it's cool is because. there's a lot of people that put a lot. of hard time and work into making uh all. the things that I [ __ ] do. This. podcast, uh the Monday Night Countdown. crew, the desk that I'm on with, I'm on. with some incredible experts and people. that are actually the best at what they. do and uh the sports analysis realm. Um.

you know, I think it's it's it's fun to. do all this stuff. I love sports. I love. to still be involved despite being a. retired player and given this platform. to communicate with fans. So yeah, it's. it's it's an honor, but it's more. importantly great to uh uh share the. fact that I really don't do it. >> Team player. >> a team player. >> Work your ass off cuz. >> team player. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You've always been one of the best. teammates and you got to shout out. anytime you get an award, you got to. shout out everybody that well or a.

nominee. Every time you get a nominee, you got to shout out the people that. help you get to where you are in life. Um, but yeah, congratulations, Jason. >> Thanks, Trev. And also, uh, congratulations to you. Travis Kelce is. officially a Tommy boy. >> Tommy. Tommy. No, I uh, dude, it's so fun, man. I signed on to be the global ambassador. um, and creative collaborator with Tommy. Hilfiger. I am uh, so pumped, man. I've. been such a huge Tommy fan since I was a. kid. um the '9s color blocking and and.

just how, you know, iconic the logo is. with the flag. I've just been I've been. trying to figure out where to go in the. fashion world because I I do love, you. know, obviously having fun things to. wear and creating fun things to wear and. and expressing that. And I think that uh. you know, my last one with American. Eagle was so much fun and they were so. unbelievable that I wanted to continue. doing that. And um and I think this. opportunity is like the the next level.

for me. It's going to be an amazing. amazing capsule when it comes out. Um. and uh excited for this year's fall 2026. line as well, which is uh which is what. I'll be pushing out first. So, >> well, hell yeah. I can't wait to check. it out. I love the last collaboration. you. >> I got it on right now. There's a little. There's a little Tommy right here for. you as well, man. >> Hello, America for you. No, it's comfy, man. It's the best. You would love this. one specifically. It's a light a nice. light knit. >> Light knit. >> Nice light breathable knit. You love.

those. >> I'm a big heavy knit guy now though. That's. >> But you like the drapiness of the. heaviness, right? Like you like how it. kind of like Yeah, it's got that. It's. got that. >> If it gets too light, it shows off my. tits too much. I need it to kind of. drape over my tits. >> Yeah. No, this will This will take care. of your tits. >> We also got a new nickname for the Big. Yeti. >> What? new nickname for the Big Yeti, Hoopsy, which we learned from the Chiefs. who revealed this during your contract. signing. Is this an actual nickname? >> Yeah, so my uh my OG in the room,

Anthony Fano, shout out to Paison Fano. is one of my favorites of all time. Him. and uh Mike McGlin, big greasy man, called me. Yeah, they saw me struggling. coming out of the the huddle every day. with hoop earrings in and would screw up. to play. And so they would call me. instead of oopsie, they would call me. oopsie. It's a banger. It's a banger. So there. was a young 2013 14 uh Travis running. around the Kansas City facility screwing. [ __ ] up being called hoopsy. Do we need.

hoopsy merch? >> Get Tommy Hoopy. Get get. >> Tommy. >> the hoops. >> We're bringing back the hoops. We're. bringing back the earrings. You heard it. here, Tommy. >> HEY, BIGGER THE HOOP. SO, THAT'S IT FOR. NEW NEWS. >> That's it for new news brought to you by. American Express. >> God damn. You're good, man. That was. [ __ ] great timing.

>> It was It was It was sitting there for. the taking for sure. >> Let's get into a little Masters preview. Jason 92enters, we got something special. for you. Golf Majors season is kicking. off this month. So, uh, for the next. couple of episodes, we're going to, you. know, talk some golf. Why not? Everybody. loves golf. This Masters preview is. brought to you by AT&T. That's right, your favorite cell phone provider. We. got to start with the new addition to. the Masters, Jason Kelsey. Jason Kelsey,

come on down. How about it, man? >> Thank you. >> After making his golf broadcasting debut. on TGL, ESPN is sending Jason to Augusta. next week. I don't think they're going. to let me in with the cut off Hawaiian. shirt at Augusta, but. >> which is. >> No, listen. Go ahead. >> Good. Yeah. Um, no. Yeah, I'm going down. there for the par three. ESPN uh. broadcast the par three day. I think. Scott Vanpel, my manp uh host it. You. know, we we love golf and um we've been.

down to the Masters before. >> and I think anybody that's been to the. Masters just realizes how special and. unique of a place it is. And um you. know, Augusta Nationals just. everything's done to just a ridiculous. degree between maintaining the course, the beauty of it, the hospitality of it. Like I just everybody the way they treat. you, the way it's done is just done at a. level that's second to none. And then. the history of of the course, the. tournament, there's just something so.

special about being down there. So, um I. always want to go just as a spectator. Uh, so to be able to go down there, to. be able to be there for the par 3 day. one, which I've never been to, and to. interact with some of the golfers and to. see that course firsthand, and then um. maybe shed some light on some of the. people that make Augusta National so. special, right? Like everybody gets to. watch the tournament. They get to be see. the best golfers in the world compete. for probably the most prestigious thing. in golf, the green jacket.

>> Green jacket. But there's a lot of other. people that do a lot of work around that. course that make that thing special. >> Do you think it's frowned upon to go out. and I I'm sorry. I don't mean to. interrupt. I'm being silly. Go ahead. Finish. >> No, you're good. >> Should we get matchy green jackets? >> I I think that's. >> that's foul play. That's what I'm. saying. >> You can't get a green jacket. You can't. like imitate a green jacket. Like I'm. going to go get gold medals and go to. the Olympics. What are we talking about. here? >> All right. Can we do gold jackets?

green jacket, gold jacket, and just tell. everybody that line whenever they ask. us, "Oh, it's with the gold jackets. Green jacket, gold jacket. Who gives a. shit?". >> Um, matching jackets doesn't sound bad. Yeah, we're outside of working there. with ESPN, we're both actually going to. be down. >> It'll be fun to just enjoy it, man. It's. It's so special with you. you you you. put your phone down and you're in just. this ridiculously beautiful course that. feels like that ground was made for one.

thing and it was made to be a golf. course and it's just I don't know man. there's not really anything quite like. it. >> I had the fortune of going down to the. Masters uh during the co year and there. were no grand stands. There were like. limited amount of people. I got to see. that course and and how they care about. every single blade of grass and every. single, you know, garden that they have. on the walkways and it was just such a. unique experience. And um obviously, you know, it won't be.

that this time, but I'm equally as. excited to to get to experience what. it's like when the full madness is there. and the hype is there and there's that. many people breathing down uh these. guys' necks on the green. I'm just. excited to get down there and uh and. experience it a different way than I did. last time. >> Well, I'm excited to be down there with. you cuz it's You got your uh You got. your chair? I got I got my chair. I'm. bringing my chair. We're posting up. >> I I didn't I didn't go chair. I just. went grass. I just laid in the grass.

>> I got a second chair. I got a second. chair. My guy Tom Nerie, shout out to. Tom Nerie hooked me up with the chair. Uh I got an extra chair. I'll get. >> What color chair is it? >> We'll set it down. It's one of the. official Augusta National Masters. >> Green chair. Okay. Yeah, you set it down. in your spot. Post up. What hole should. we post up on? What's your favorite. hole? >> I kind of like walking around obviously. Amen's Corner. Yeah, that's it's lovely. I kind of like this. when we went we posted up at the the. second or third day we went. We posted. up right around 15 where the the par.

five where it kind of bends around the. trees there. It's like a a dog leg left. and. >> um and it's such a cool shot to me. >> cuz it's kind of like an island green in. a sense. It's like it's got that water. in front of it and. >> and it's a it's a shot now. Like you got. to kind of place that drive. You get to. see how everyone tries to cut the corner. or tries to, you know, play their. whatever their strategy is. And then. that's a it's a hell of a shot for them.

to get there in two if they go for it. And it's just fun to kind of see, you. know, which guys go for it, where they. end up, and and yeah, I think that's. that's probably my favorite place. Obviously, the par threes. Um there's. not a bad par three on the course. Um. >> I mean, it's always fun to post up. >> Yeah, you just see everybody throw some. darts. So, >> I like um I can't remember if it's the. par five that's two coming down the hill. or three. >> Two coming down the hill is you got to. hit it kind of perfectly or else that.

thing is flying. I think it's two coming. down that hill. It ends in like so in. the middle of the course there's a green. right there and I think it's the par. five. If two is a par five it's two. >> I believe you're correct. I believe that. is it. I think it's two. Everyone tries. to like hit it on that left side of that. par five. It kind of goes left as well. >> So you come down that hill but you're. you're kind of centrally located. So you. can put your chair down there. You're on. the green but then you can also get up. and walk to like multiple different. holes in the area. It's just a good like. central location. That's one of my.

favorite spots. Anyways, >> I'm not going to lie. I like to kind of. walk the course a little bit. Be bougie. Go to Burkeman's place. >> Go back out and walk the course a little. bit more at the end. >> Fair enough. >> Yeah, I'm a bougie. I'll be there. wearing Tommy. >> All righty. We have a uh voicemail from. last year from a 92enter. Let's uh take. a look at this regarding the Masters. >> Youngtown, Ohio. First of all, King. >> on baby number four. She's. >> okay. Youngtown, >> my no dumb question.

um falls around the Masters that. happened on Sunday. And if one of you guys won the Masters, what would your guys's ideal champions. dinner be like? >> Ooh, love this question. >> Thank you for that question. >> I think Rory Maroyy's championship. dinner just got announced if I'm not. >> Yes, it did. It came out. Yeah. So, the. first one is Rory's. Here we got some uh. peach ricotta flatbread with a little.

hot honey basil and basamic. >> I'm not going to lie. >> Shrimp. Got to love. >> I'm not going to lie. He's two for two. on me right now. Bacon wrapped dates. And now I'm out. >> Grilled elk sliders. Why would you have. elk when you just have beef? >> Caramelized onion jam. I almost threw. up. >> Oh, I made caramelized onion jam. All. right. Elephant, tuna, gaspachio. >> What the [ __ ] do I, man? There's one. thing. There's two things I'm allergic.

to. Octopus and [ __ ]. >> Famemenon, seared salmon, sticky toffee pudding. Great dessert. Great dessert. All righty. Not bad, Mr. Macar. Let's Let's see what Bubba's. working with. Much more dated. This is. not as pristine of a menu. It looks like. >> 2013. >> Grilled chicken breast. Jesus Christ, Bubba. >> What's wrong with the grilled chicken. breast? I mean nothing but it's I mean. if a special occasion we can do better. than a grilled chicken breast, green. beans, mashed potatoes, corn, macaroni.

and cheese. >> This bubble. What do you say? Bubbles. These are southern guys. >> Caesar salad, chicken breast, and. confetti cake. This is [ __ ]. hilarious. You can have anything in the. world, Bubba. I'll do I'll do a Caesar. sal. >> I bet you this had something to do with. Augusta. Like he went to the chefs. He. was like, "Hey, what are you guys known. for?" or they were probably just like, "Well, we make a mean grilled chicken. mac and cheese.". >> I'm a fan of actually subverting. um. >> subverting su.

>> traditional like American dishes, but. like making them at like a high-end. meal. Like. >> I think you go beans and weenies, but. you have them do it in the Augusta way. Beans and weenies. >> No chance. >> Have like the fanciest peanut butter and. jelly imaginable. >> Uncalled for in a situation like this, but keep going. What's another Hamburger. Helper? >> What are we doing? What are we doing? When's the last time you had Hamburger. Helper? >> But that's MY POINT. I USED TO LOVE.

HAMBURGER HELPER. I would go complete. nostalgia. PB&J, Beans and Weenies, Hamburger Helper. What else can we throw on this that we. used to eat growing up? Get some. Dunkaroos in there. I don't even know if. they make dunkies. in there. What what is what was another. thing in the Kelsey family household. that would be hilarious to put at a. freaking Mast's championship dinner? >> What were those little nutter butters? What else, man? [ __ ]. >> got to have some key lime pie in honor. of Ed Kelsey. >> I'm see I'm in on key lime pie being the. dessert. That's nice.

>> All right. All right. Key lime pie. Trying to think. Oh, casserole. Got to. have a nice casserole in honor of Ed. Kelsey. >> Stocked with cottage cheese was to the. brim. It wasn't It was ricottas. Yeah. Ricata. Yeah, ricotta. >> Ricotta cheese. It was thick and it was. it was good in that, but I can't do. ricotta very very often. >> Very cheesy. Very cheesy. I'm trying to. think what else. >> Just some Giorgio's pizza, man. >> Mama Kelsey's dinner rolls. Got to have. some Mama Kelsey dinner roll. >> Got to have some Mama Kelsey dinner. rolls. That's got to be the first thing.

that comes out. >> Yes. Yes. >> All right. So, Mama Kelsey Mama Kelsey's. dinner rolls to start us off with a. little uh. >> beans and weenies. >> I'm not doing beans and weenies in mine. There's no chance I would ever force. anybody to do beans and weenies. >> Talk about mine. >> It's the worst. >> Beans and weenies. >> Yeah. No, I don't love absolutely. [ __ ] my brains out 5 minutes after I. eat. No, I don't. >> Just [ __ ] leaving a trail of [ __ ]. ass juice everywhere I go. Just like. it's the worst.

>> I would also that Well, that's another. thing. You use it to sabotage. My. stomach is made to handle beans and. weenies. If I'm playing again, I'm gonna. sabotage the group. I'm gonna force all. >> Nobody's eating beanies and your stomach. is inbody. >> You are coming IN TO EATING MY BEANIES. AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO. SURVIVE IT. YOU GREW UP OVER IN IRELAND, RORY. YOU DON'T know what the [ __ ]. you're dealing with. BEANS AND LADIES. AND BUSHES and [ __ ] OSCAR MEYER. YOU. AIN'T GOT A CLUE WHAT YOU'RE READY FOR.

>> This guy's going to be on that first tea. wondering what the hit. There's no way. Rose is eating beans or weenies, man. There's no way any of these [ __ ]. golfers. >> Your system's never seen this amount of. You don't know what's happening to you. >> Ah, don't wear white pants tomorrow, boys. >> You better dark shades. You better wear. some dark shades. >> Preferably black or brown.

>> This gut bacteria's been. >> through years. Kelsey making the cheapest meals. possible in a microwave. >> That shit's [ __ ] hilarious. All. right. Well, we we gave it our best run, dude. >> Rory will eat beans and wenies. I'm. going to scream it at him on the tea. box. >> What would you honestly do though for. your menu? What would you put in there? >> I mean, honestly, I feel like I'd go. universal. I wouldn't make everybody. [ __ ] pay. I would make everybody.

enjoy it. Mama Kelsey's dinner rolls to. start it off. I feel like you you go. smash roll. >> That's the thing. That's the thing. I'm. going like a little smash burger, maybe. some like some super salty fried. chicken. I [ __ ] I'd love you. I mean, you're in you're in the South, so I feel. like there there should be some version. of like southern hospitality, southern. meal in there. >> I like what you're selling here. >> Yeah, I'm I'm a big mac and cheese guy, too. I'd probably go similar to Bubba, but a more updated version, for sure. Maybe not just as simple as that, but. the key lime pie is a nice finish. Um,

I've always liked the Dairy Queen ice. cream cake, too. So, maybe maybe throw. that [ __ ] in there. That [ __ ] I'm I. haven't been to that. I haven't had one. in a long time. >> Kyle and I, I talk about this all the. time. I don't know why people get. regular. >> You know, they make ice cream cake, right? Why would you get a regular cake. when you get a [ __ ] ice cream cake? >> WHAT ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT? >> WHAT are we talking about? I feel like. half of the world's lactose intolerant. anyways. >> All righty. Yeah, that does it for the.

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Louis, Missouri. He's got a critic's. choice award, TWO GOLDEN GLOBES, AND AN. EMMY. YOU KNOW HIM FROM HIS ROLE ON THE. TOWN 30 ROCKMAN MADMAN. AND NOW COMING. SOON, the second season of the Apple. Plus original, Your Friends and. Neighbors. >> YES, SIR. >> 92ENTERS, PLEASE WELCOME MR. JOHN H. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. Thank you. That is. a WWE style intro. I like that. >> Chief's Kingdom member. >> Certainly. So, yes. >> Perhaps the sexiest member of Chief's. Kingdom. >> Maybe. I mean, you know,

Rud's in there. is in there. I mean, come on. There's a. lot of Slender. >> It's a hot kingdom. >> That's right. >> We got Big Rob Rig Rob. He had his nice. seasoned beard. >> Yeah. He's got a little a little salt in. that pepper. He's all right. How does it. feel to become a meme? By the way, >> that was the weirdest thing in the. world. I I I am so not on social media. Like I am I have zero footprint. Lit. literally. Yeah. >> I think I have a Facebook page from.

whatever 2002. >> That's those things are dangerous now, man. That's like a loaded gun having a. Facebook. Yeah. But I mean, I never I. never engage with it. I just don't. So. even when people send me like links to. to Instagram and stuff, I have to open. them on the web. Like I don't have the. app. I don't have I don't I don't play. the reindeer games are not for me. Yeah. So, I I came home. I was I've been. shooting up in Canada in Winnipeg, Manitoba, this next series that I'm. doing called American Hostage. And I. come home and I get a text from Brian. Williams. Like, what does Brian Williams. want? You know, it's like, okay. I open. it up and he goes, I hope you understand.

that this is has been going around and. he was the first guy that sent me the. link. I was like, first of all, Bri, what's on your algorithm that I'm he's. doom scrolling, dude. He's doom. scrolling. >> But no, then it blew up like crazy. It. was it was bizarre. And it's bizarre. It's just one of those things, you know, I I I you got no control over it. You. can't you can't you can't do that stuff. on purpose. It just happens. >> Yeah, it has. >> And you know, I guess it was the best. way for it to happen is it was positive. It was pleasant. It was funny. It was. all the other stuff. So, >> absolutely. >> Hell yeah.

>> Well, it's iconic, man. >> Talk about what's this what's this new. series you said you're up in. >> Yeah, it's called American Hostage. It. it's about a a real thing that happened. in the 70s in in the States in uh in. Indianapolis. It was a hostage situation. where a guy took a bank manager hostage, tied a gun around his neck, and walked. him around for 63 hours straight. And I. I Yeah, it's real. And I I was 1977. I. was 6 years old. You guys weren't born. yet, but uh I was like I I vaguely have. a recollection of this incident when it. happened, but it was kind of the first. thing that happened where local story.

kind of blew up into national news. And. I play the radio reporter that he that. the that the hostage taker, he was his. favorite radio guy, newsman. So he says, "You got to get my story out. you got to. tell the people my story. And so he's. kind of conflicted. He's going live on. the air with this guy who's a loose. cannon who also has a dude at the end of. a shotgun. It could go sideways at any. moment. So it's it's very tense. It's. very exciting. >> [ __ ] yeah. >> It's going to be a good one. It'll come. out in the fall at some point. >> up in Winnipeg. >> Yeah, we're shooting Winnipeg, which is. >> around. Yeah.

>> I don't know how cold you guys have been. recently, but but minus 30 is real, man. >> We got one of our college teammates, Zack Lair. Shout out to Zack. He's uh. he's the quarterback for the Winnipeg. Blue Bombers. >> Blue Bombers. Yeah, I went to the Grey. Cup uh this year, which was super cool. Uh Saskatchewan Rough Riders versus the. uh Montreal Alowettes. >> Have you guys watched the NFL? >> It is fun. Three downs. Yep. >> Receivers can move forward before. >> field's bigger. >> Way bigger. Like way bigger. >> It's crazy, >> dude. I'm I'm love it, dude. We We went. up there a few times. Uh unfortunately,

our guy uh got banged up the one game we. went up there to go see him. >> So, your bad luck. Well, >> they won the Gay Cup that year, I. believe. >> All right. So, they love it up there, man. They go crazy for it. And it's fun. to watch. It is fun to watch. >> You're a football fan. I'm a football. fan. Played football. >> I played in high school. I got recruited. to play like D3 Ivy League. >> And it was like there was a decision. I. played middle linebacker. You know, in. high my high school, we played both. ways. So, you I played offensive line. and middle linebacker. >> Offensive line, middle linebacker. Yeah. Chuck Berk.

>> Exactly. You're guys. >> I'm a running back though. I didn't play. offensive line. >> We all wanted to be running backs. Especially in high school football, that's all you did. But no, it was there. was a choice and I was like, I don't. think I can I can I wanted to. >> go to college and I wanted to not be in. the weight room and not be in practice. all the time. He's like, for sure. >> Can we just touch on this? Look at the. Did you see his. >> Yeah, kid. There he is. >> The neckro. Necro guy. The necro. >> Oh, this guy was [ __ ] putting his. forehead right on your chin. Let's. [ __ ] go. >> Absolutely.

>> And and arm sleeves. The old forearm. shad. I did not want to wear. I was like, I. >> they don't even make hip pads anymore. How crazy is that? >> I don't know. You watch you guys like. I'm like, how do you not do that? You. had the hip pads and the butt pad. The. little tail tailbone pad. >> For 6 years, I didn't wear any pads on. my legs until they changed the rule back. to be like, "Hey, you have to wear any. pads and thigh pads.". >> So, what do they give you now? Like a. credit card and you put it in your leg. >> It's the thinnest pad. And then you even. once they give it to you, you cut it,

bro. >> You can't give me enough pads. Me, dude. Guys are [ __ ] putting their helmet. right on my knee. >> Yeah, you got to run across. Yeah. No, I'm No, give me as big. I just want all. my whole leg being a pad. >> Give me a force field. >> I look at all these receivers. I'm like, dude, you guys are going to get your. [ __ ] [ __ ] up. Put some goddamn pads. on. >> For sure. For sure. >> What is harder, playing football or. being an actor? >> It's a good question. >> Playing football. I mean, >> no way. >> Seriously. Like, no way. >> Nobody's coming at you to try to take.

your head off in the middle of a scene. You don't have to keep your head on a. swivel when you're when you're in a in. the middle of a scene. It's just not. that hard. It takes mental energy. It. takes preparedness. Obviously, both both. of the disciplines do, but but the. funniest thing about and you've probably. had both of you probably had, you know, my buddy Glazer worked on your show with. with you guys. You know how it is to be. on camera. It's it it everything gets a. little hyped up, a little little you get. a little nervous and all that stuff, and. it takes experience and and reps to to. get it down to where you feel. comfortable doing it, like anything.

else. >> Yeah, exactly. I'm sure if you put. anybody on an NFL field in a moment, even if they were fit enough to play, the the the grandeur and the largess of. the moment would freak them the [ __ ]. out. No doubt. >> Right. And so that's what happens. sometimes when you get on stage or you. get on set and the lights are on and. things ready and whatever's going. I. remember one of the first movies I ever. did was called We Were Soldiers with Mel. Gibson and uh Greg Caner, Sam Elliot, a. bunch of cast of thousands. It was. great. Vietnam War movie. Really, really. cool. And we had this one this one setup.

uh that was the whole day. It was just. one thing for the whole day. And at the. end of the day, the guy hits the button. and the whole place blows the [ __ ] up. And it was crazy. We had all these lines. and all these things. We had all these. cameras everywhere. We're running on 11. cameras and Mel's in the middle of it. He's calling in the air strike. And the. director is basically like, "If you. forget your line, if you [ __ ] up, just. keep going cuz we got one shot at this.". And so it goes around and around and. around. At the end of the thing, they. hit the buttons and the whole [ __ ]. forest explodes. And they call it and. they're like, "That's a wrap." Like, "We're done." Like, "Okay." We're like,

"Okay, we did it." And and we were all. talking to Mel. We're like, "Don't you. get like nervous?" Like what would he go. and he goes, "No, >> that's crazy, man. >> We just That's what just what I do.". >> Yeah. >> And you think about that, of course, in. your line of work, too. Like Patrick. Mahomes is like he's This is what I do. >> Yeah. It's Well, the old Texas. gunslinger, he's he's a little. different. He's built a little. different. I was uh I was just at Waste. Management. I was on I was uh playing in. the ProAm. Right. That's a real thing, man. >> So, that's what I was saying. You're. talking about like being in a moment.

where you're like, "Oh shit." You walk. into that thing and it's like the Yeah. It's like the coliseum. It's like, "How. the [ __ ] did I get here?" And then you. have to stand over a ball this size and. [ __ ] hit it. >> that you've hit a million times that you. know you can do. I had that experience. I played Augusta after the after the. Masters. is the year the last year that. Tiger won, whatever it was, 2018. >> You can do a thing where they keep the. pins in the same place and you play the. you don't play from the from the tips, but man, >> so cool. Still though, >> and I was standing on the first te and I. literally I lined up. I'm decent golfer.

I was like ready to play and I looked. down and my knees are doing this and I. was like, "Wait a minute. No." And I I. stepped back. I was like, >> "Come on now." And then I stepped up and. I striped it. But I mean, I was like, "Whoa, dude. That was real." That was a. moment. Are you kidding me? You already. know. >> Yeah, >> Jason, you uh you got the score that. >> that whole one it's like sitting right. there. Yeah, man. Not good. Not a good. start to the day. >> Not a good start. >> Wasn't good.

>> Numbers are falling down. to the first. So. you say about, you know, he he he kind. of dips back into that world, decides. not to kind of go on straight and. narrow. >> Yeah. >> And then there's a massive kind of chaos. agent that is introduced in the season, which is James Mars's character who. comes in who's a new guy in the. neighborhood.

>> And it's like, who's this dude? And uh. he's he's not as he appears to be. There's some shadiness and there's some. stuff in it and it the whole season kind. of leads up to how do we manage that? And it's it's great. It's it's it's. super compelling television. It's fun. It's funny. It's sexy. It's it's uh you. know it's really I'm I love the show. >> It's fantastic. >> I was going to say this is it it feels. like it's obviously you're like your. range is crazy, >> but in terms of this character, it feels.

a little different. Is this like a new. experience for you or. >> I mean look having the majority of my. kind of notoriety and fame be be. invested in Madman period piece is very. specific thing kind of this very. brooding dark character to be able to. play something contemporary that's funny. and and real and kind of you know. someone that you could walk down the. street and legitimately recognize if I. walked out on the street in Don Draper. gear people are like what the [ __ ]. what's going on here it's not Halloween. dude like what are you doing but if I if. I you know walked in in in Cooper gear.

It's this is a normal person and and. it's um so there's a lot of like that. familiarity with that kind of character, but also that kind of deal of like the. 1%, you know, people that really live. that crazy life and how is that, you. know, how does that work out and is that. is that all there is? Is that the kind. of thing that people really want, you. know? It's it's fun. It's a little bit. wish fulfillment and kind of [ __ ] you to. those people, too. So, it's. >> for sure, you know, it's fun. >> [ __ ] yeah. I'm always here for a good. [ __ ] you. >> It helps, man. Dude, so you mentioned uh.

going to UT kind of being football isn't. it? I want to go a different route. Did. you know that acting and. >> I had done a lot of acting in high. school. I had done it basically since I. was a little kid. Um I was never like a. child actor or anything like that, but. it was just always something I had I had. was raised by a single mom. My mom. passed away when I was 10. So then I'm. live with my dad and then you know I was. always in whatever extracurricular after. school. >> activities I could get you know whether. it was bowling team or cub scouts or.

everything man it was literally like. just do that and so sports was obviously. a big part of that and growing up in the. Midwest. >> all you have are empty fields and. whatever season it is that's the sport. you play you know it's like baseball in. the in the springtime football in the. fall you know the winter time was hockey. but I I couldn't afford all that gear so. more it was just like whatever we could. do. Oh yeah. >> And it was fun, you know, that was that. was the big part of it was growing up as. a as a boy especially, all you have is. energy. You just want to like run. through a wall.

>> And so when I got into football in in. seventh and eighth grade when I when I. went to uh the school I ended up going. to, that was the that was the saving. grace, dude. End of the day, you all. this energy, you're like, let's let's go. hit something, man. Like it was fun and. I was decent at it. But um but I knew. that, you know, >> that's a choice as you guys well know. That's a commitment, man. You got to be. in the in the in the weight room. You. got to be training. You got to be fit. You got to be ready to go. And I was. like, I think I just want to be I want. to do this other thing, which I know I. can do at a high level. I'd always.

gotten good feedback from people that. were like, "Hey, man, you're kind of. good at this.". >> Yeah. >> And then it becomes It's not I mean, it. is, I guess, a lot like football. Like, you got to get picked, you know what I. mean? You can't just go and like I'm. going to be an actor in my room by. myself. That's being A CRAZY PERSON. WELL, YOU got to be a little little. crazy to be good at everything, right? >> Yeah, for sure. So then, you know, it. was like you go to either LA or New. York, basically, right? It wasn't. happening in St. Louis. So, I was like, "All right, I packed up my [ __ ] I had. $150 to my name. My grandfather gave me. a check for $100 and that triple money.

>> [ __ ] yeah.". >> And I bailed out. I went I went west, man. And that was it in 1995. So, you. know, I've I've I've felt like I had to. give it give it a try or I or it would. have been the two saddest word in in the. English language like what if. >> Yeah. Do the. >> you know. So, off I went and it only. took three or four years to get it done. >> I live with that so much because I. always say what if I could have played. quarterback in the National Football.

League. >> See, I just couldn't put the reefer. down. Man, >> you wanted to be a basketball player. You wanted to be a basketball player. what you wanted to be. >> I did. I did. I really just wanted to. play basketball in the Big East. I knew. I didn't have a chance at the NBA. I. couldn't [ __ ] dribble, but I knew I. could play college basketball for sure. >> I knew I could [ __ ] I couldn't guard. anybody, but you zone. Yeah, exactly. Dude, throwing bows. I'm. going to use all five. That was the one. thing playing basketball growing up. My. dad came up to me. He says, "You get. five of them. If you don't use three,

you're not playing the game right." I. was just like, "Got it. fouls out before. the fight like every game just getting. fouled out. >> So St. Louis that it is cra like we. talked to we're obviously really. connected with Kansas City right. Jason Sedakus and I think they used to. do like this improv thing as kids or. something like that I think talking to. them around. >> the city. >> it just I've never heard of these paths. out of these like small Midwestern like. markets are there like a bunch of like. St. people. >> Yeah. You know, because I was a teacher.

I went back to my old my old high school. and I taught school for one year. >> So cool, man. >> I graduated Missou Zu. >> All right, man. >> I graduated Missou at 93 and then I went. back and taught at my old high school. cuz I needed a job. Like I was waiting. tables and bartending and all the other. stuff, but I was like, I need a freaking. job. Like I need a real job with a real. paycheck and a real schedule. I can't do. this anymore cuz I was so old at 24. Um, and I pitched myself cuz the guy that. was teaching theater at at my high. school who had taught me, I said, "You.

you you have too many students. Like, you need a you need a junior teacher. You need a helper.". >> Yeah. >> And he goes, "Sounds great. Let's pitch. it to the to the headmaster, the big. man." I go, "Great." And I knew him. He. knew me from being a student. I was a. really good student. I was a three sport. varsity athlete. I was in the theater. department. I had good credit. >> Quality qualified for. >> And I had a I had a a theater. scholarship from Missou. And I'd done a. bunch of plays and I was like, let just. let me come in for a year. Try it out. What's the worst thing that could. happen? So I did. It was great. They. asked me to come back for another year.

and I was like, I'd love to, but I got. to try this out. I got to go. I'm not. getting any. Hell yeah. >> But one of my students was Ellie Keer. >> Yeah. >> Who was in Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. with me and bridesmaids with me and. other things. So I was like, I got a. chance to walk the red carpet twice with. one of my students. That's awesome. Um, and yeah, we had we had a bunch of kids. that were really really good at it. It's. sometimes these clusters just kind of. happen, you know, that that uh that the. talented kids find their way. Um and and. I was one of them. In my class from my.

my graduating class from Burrows in St. Louis, Sarah Clark uh was in 24. Like we. had a bunch of kids that made it out, so. you know, it happens, man. >> Yeah. Very cool. >> St. Louis representing. Yes, indeed. I. love it, man. I I always feel like. anytime I'm like giving back in that. regard, like I always find a way to like. say something and then it gets. reiterated in my brain like, man, I kind. of got away from that like whatever it. is I'm teaching or like whatever like. the fundamental is or the mindset is. >> Yeah. Yeah. It reminds you what you're.

supposed to. >> and it kind of makes you stay more sharp. on your own fundamentals. You know what. I mean? For sure. Yeah. I would imagine. I mean, I'm sure you guys do youth. clinics and whatnot and stuff where you, you know, cuz the little kids look up to. you guys like you're hung. But even not. just that, like every single year you. reinstall a playbook. >> Yeah. >> Right. So like you'd be sitting in this. meeting and it's like how many more. times can I listen to like inside zone. be installed? >> Like it is mind-numbing to a point where. it's like, yeah, I'm going to step with. my right foot, check my A gap and yada. yada yada. Right. But um.

>> and then you go every once in a while. Yeah. Right. Right. every once in a. while like Style would have like the. guys teach it or something like that, right? And it does feel like when you're. teaching it or or a rookie would ask you. a question and in your own way of like. redescribing like I forgot that I think. about it that way. You know what I mean? >> Well, the whole point I would imagine. cuz it's the same with us is is that you. do it and you do it and you do it until. you essentially forget it and it becomes. second nature, right? You know how to do. it so well. >> Are blacking out. >> Yeah. Yeah. Right. >> For me, it's like it's non-stop.

Football is non-stop evolving. Like the. plays are non-stop evolving. Like the. more you the more coverages you see. because that play works, you're going to. see different coverages to try and stop. it. So the play is non-stop. >> It's evolving on how I need to run this. route, how I need to do this. >> And then it's like it gets to the point. where it's like not I'm thinking about. this coverage, this coverage, this. coverage, this coverage, how I'm going. to run it here. And coach Rita just come. up to me. He's like just run the [ __ ]. route. >> You know, get it back down back down to. simple. Yeah, for sure. Sure. I will.

just run it how how you teach it. I'll. run it how you teach it. >> But that happens every year too, right? Yeah. Whoever wins the Super Bowl, everybody imitates them for the next. season, right? That's what basically. what happens. Okay. Now, we're going to. run that and that that defense is going. to work against this or not. And they. it's like you said, it's constantly. evolving and that's what's really fun to. watch it. If you if you love the game. and you know the game and you really. watch the game kind of that granular. level, >> that's what becomes really cool. >> And I think that's like when Romo first. came into the booth and was started to. call all that stuff, you were like, "Holy shit." Right. You still know this?

>> Hell yeah. >> It's It's like amazing. >> Absolutely. Obviously, we keep. mentioning St. Louis, the Rams. We got. to talk about the Rams cuz. >> How are you Chiefs kingdom? >> Here's what happened. Let me give you. the history of my football rooting. >> All right. Now, please. >> And I bring this up to Roger Goodell. every time I see him. And I did it. again. >> 1989, the Cardinals moved from St. Louis. to Arizona. So, um, we're [ __ ]. >> And I go, "God damn it." But then they. were like, "No, you're going to get an. expansion franchise." And we had the. name picked out. We had the logo picked. out. It was the Stallions. It was a.

terrible [ __ ] idea. But then they go, "No, just kidding. It's going to. Carolina and Jacksonville." And we were. like, "Fuck, really? God damn it." Then. it becomes like, "Well, maybe we maybe. we can get the Rams to move to St. Louis." And everyone's like, "They're. not going to move to St. There's no. way." Of course, they build this half a. billion dollar stadium. They Hey, all of. a sudden, the Rams are in St. Louis. 94. The year next year I moved to LA. So, the Rams are now in St. Louis, but I'm. in LA. >> That's funny. swap. >> and they're terrible. The first couple.

years they're terrible. Rich Brooks, I. can't remember who the who the coach. was. He came from Oregon. He he was not. ready for the for the pro game at all. Like it was just Tony, who was our. quarterback. Oh my god. Anyway, it was. bad until Dick Vermile shows up. Yeah, baby. Oh yeah. And then all of a sudden. Kurt Warner shows up and then Marshall. Faulk shows up and then Isaac Bruce. shows up and then Tory Holt shows up and. it was like all of a sudden this nucleus. coalesed and it was the greatest show on. turf and Mike Mart's OC and it was like.

oh my god like then it was football. became a thing in St. Louis and people. were crazy. I went to one game at the at. the at the stadium and I'll never forget. it. It was like the place was electric. and I used to go to see football when. the Cardinals with my dad in minus 10°. weather aluminum benches weren't even. seats like aluminum bench. So cold so. deeply cold. >> Um and this was like indoors in the. dome. >> There was a play I'll never forget it. I. I got there like five minutes late. This.

was this was St. Louis versus Atlanta. >> I can't remember what year it was but I. I got to the game five minutes late. There were five minutes off or there was. a minute off the clock because what had. happened was the first kickoff was run. back for a touchdown and then the. ensuing kickoff was run back for a. touchdown. It was 77 before I even got. to sit down. What is happening? >> So right before the half it was a fourth. and 30 and they were like well they. might as they didn't even punt. It was. like Warner just lines up under center. and throws a dart to Tory Holder who.

like a c a deep post to Toriel and they. score. >> Yeah. >> Fourth and 30 right before the half. like, "Okay, this is this is a team. worth watching." So, that was super fun. to watch. Then they win the Super Bowl. in 2000. Then they should have beat the. Patriots in 2001. I have a theory about. that, but uh and then they moved back to. LA and then they they moved to to back. to LA. They win the Super Bowl in LA uh. with Stafford. >> Oh, yeah. >> So, that's when I like I got nothing. left in St. Louis. >> Then it's like, well, at least I got the.

team in Missouri on the other side. And. that's the ascendancy of of you guys and. and everybody there. Now they're moving. that to Kansas. So I'm like, come on, man. >> Where do I go from here? The. Battlehawks. Come on. I mean, I don't. know. But it's No, it's still it's great. uh watching watching the the Chiefs come. together in the way that they have. >> Paul and I, Paul Rudd and I have been. buddies since high school, since I was. 15. He was dude, man. >> We were at the game when the first Super. Bowl you guys won. He was there with his. son about 15 or 16 years old. He was so.

emotional. He got a bloody nose. He was. just like, >> "Oh, I remember that." Hell yeah. >> It was awesome. He got to go down. That. was in Miami, I think. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That was really, really fun. But. it's been great. You know, it's been. great to watch you your your success as. well. I mean, couldn't happen to two. nicer guys. That's all I'll say. >> The man, dude, we too got our team. shipped as kids, so we know that. feeling. Yeah, for sure. Right. Yeah. Now, I look at the Baltimore Ravens as. basically the evil empire. >> Yes. >> And what could have been in Cleveland. because they ended up going on to like. win a Super Bowl within the first Yeah.

just non-stop success. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But oh well. >> So is it favorite football player. growing up? >> Uh either Cardinals or Rams or. >> I mean OJ Anderson I loved. Mel Gray I. loved. We're going back to the old. Cardinals. Hell yeah. >> Dan Deerorf who's a lineman I really. loved and I got to know him a little bit. afterwards. Uh rest in peace. He's a. great guy. Wonderful wonderful man and a. and a huge like supporter of the city. You know one of those guys just like. >> everybody knew Dan. It was like Stam. Musel and the Cardinals. It's like.

everybody knew him. He was around town. all the time. You'd see him. He'd say, "Hey, how you doing?" He had a. steakhouse, you know, you'd just show. up. >> That's the best, dude. >> That kind of Midwestern thing like it is. in KC. I know you guys have the. restaurant in KC. >> We got a crazy ambassador program around. there. When I first got there, the first. the first like meeting you have is. literally with the ambassadors of the. Chiefs. Like the owner, Clark Hunt, comes in with it's called the little. rookie meeting and you're sitting there. with the guys that have played and. stayed around in the city. You just hear. all the stories. RIP Len Dawson, he was.

like one of the first conversations I. had in KC and I'm just like, man, I'm. speaking to. >> you meet those Hall of Famers and you're. like, wow. You know, that's it's real. It's real. And it and it really enforces. the idea that the community is is is. huge. It's a huge part of the success of. the franchise. It's why it's so. devastating when. >> when the teams when the teams leave, you're like, come on, man. Like, >> it's crazy. >> Did you watch any college football this. year? Kurt Signetti, the uh national. championship coach. I didn't see the. whole national I saw the highlights of.

the game, but I was very much paying. attention to Indiana the whole season. >> Have you heard of these calls for you to. play Kurt Signetti in a movie? No. >> Apparently, there's a picture running. around. >> I had a lot of friends that went to IU. cuz that was a big uh destination. If. you're in St. Louis, it was just about a. three-hour drive. We had some fun. We. had some fun uh weekends up at IU. >> He's a character now. He's got that old. ball coach feel to it. >> for sure. >> High energy. >> But even like the new high energy like. the McVey of the world, you know what I. mean? Like it's a different world. Like. he's just got this like old wisdom.

>> Well, and he's got the way confidence of. just like you're not going to stop what. I'm going to give you. >> Sorry. >> You're about to get a taste of this. >> What's his quote? I win. Google me. >> Damn. Okay. I mean, it's it's pretty. baller. Like the guy is just straight up. and he does. I mean, how about that? Indiana running the team. >> Wild. Yeah. I mean, I know they got a. lot of money behind them, too, but. that's still crazy. That's just the new. reality. Like Alabama doesn't like you.

>> They all do. That's what. >> Seriously, my guy Pat Mahomes over there. at Texas Tech, them oil money down. there. >> Yep. They're they're ready. >> How did you guys get all these transfers. in every sport? >> TCU, all those all those kind of places. that were historically were kind of. second tier things. Now IU, like now all. of a sudden, which is I I don't know. I. think it's kind of great. >> Yeah. No, I think it's nice. It's a nice. refresh. I mean, Alabama was on a run. there for a while. It was. Yeah. Yeah. You think? And it's like, all right. It. feels like now the tables are at least a.

little more even, >> right? Like it's not just the halves and. have nots, not the halves and halves, but whatever. >> No, I'm with you. I love it. >> We're big fans of comedies. What's your. favorite comedy movie? >> Comedy movie? >> Yes. >> Well, that's a good question. Um, I. mean, look, it I I I had the good. fortune to be able to remake Fletch, which was one one of my absolute. favorites. And I had the good fortune to. meet Chvy. I was I met him. He kind of. he kind of ambushed me in the in the LAX.

airport lounge. >> It was like 7:00 in the morning and I. was actually getting ready to fly to to. Fort Worth to to do Land Man. >> Okay. >> And I'm scooping out my shitty. microwaved eggs or whatever in the in. the in the lounge. you know exactly what. I'm getting ready to eat. You know, you're like, "Oh boy, it's too early for. anything, but I got to get something. >> I got to get something to get.". >> I hear this guy go, "Hey, I heard you. played Fletch." And I turn around, it's. Chvy Chase. And I was like, "Oh my god, >> yes, I did, Mr. Chase. Oh my god, I'm. It's so nice to meet you. I love all. your work. I I I've all I do was was.

watch your movies growing up. I loved. doing SNL." Like, I've just love bomb. the guy. I like Yeah. >> floored him with an avalanche of like. And I was getting ready to go work with. Dei Moore. And one my wife's favorite. movie, one of my wife's favorite movies. is is this movie that you probably if. you've seen it, good luck. It's called. Nothing But Trouble Directed by Dan. Akroyd. Dan Akroyd plays like this weird. crazy character. It's it's nuts. Look it. up. >> I got to watch that one. >> But it's uh it's it's Chvy and Dei. Moore. So I said, I'm actually starring.

with one of your co-stars. I'll give her. my best. This that and the other. And. anyways, >> so cool. >> It starts with Fletch, but then. >> I thought he was going to come in hot. with something. You already know that. guy. I did too. And that's why I kind of. waiting for the waiting for these love. You know what I mean? I had to like you. already know. That's hilarious. That's. good. >> cuz I I felt like there might have been. a little a little shot underneath. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But no, that all of his movies and he. went on a run. You look at Catty Shack, you look at Fletcher, that's what we. grew up on.

>> My Yeah. The 80s my that was what you. did. You rented movies. That was all you. did throughout high school was just you. rent them. rent five movies and watch. them five times over the weekend and. that was it. But I man Big Labowski. that's another one that I absolutely. love now. You know, I got a chance to. work with Jeff Bridges uh in my career. So, you know, it's I'm. >> Bad Times. >> Bad Times Royale. Yes, indeed. >> I love that [ __ ] movie. >> I mean, it's a great film. I make great. movies that nobody sees.

>> Stop. That's uh that's kind of it. I. actually got I made a movie called. Million-Dollar Arm that was based on the. career of this guy JB Bernstein who. represents Barry Sanders. Uh and he was. at the honors last night. So I was able. to say hi to him and he was funny. He's. you know he's this tall and he's just. hard worker. He goes, "I can't believe. you got to play me." I go, "I got to. play you. You got me to play you." Yeah, >> but you know, having a career and doing. it as long as I've I've been able to do. it, it's really nice to be able to look. back and be be proud of what you what.

you've done and to work with the people. that you've gotten a chance to work. with. >> Hell yeah. >> All of that stuff is amazing. You know, it's it's u being in something like Top. Gun. Well, >> that I remember walking on that set and. there's a sixtory high American flag and. Tom Cruz is walking toward me. All I. could see is a smile walking toward me. and I was like, "How you doing? are. energy through man. You ready to go? >> I'm like, "Thanks for the cup of Joe right there.". Uh, but I was like, "This must be weird. for you. This is the same set that you.

shot on 25 years ago. Is this weird?" He. goes, "It's crazy. It's crazy. We're. doing it again.". >> That's amazing. >> It was fun, man. >> Well, I uh I share an honor with you of. uh standing on that SNL stage, man. when. I tell you still to this day one of the. coolest [ __ ] things I've ever done. Um, your time on SNL. Do you have a. favorite skit? Do you have a. >> A couple? I was going to say. >> I mean I have I have a couple, man. I've. hosted four times and I was and I was. I've been on the show like probably 15.

more times and it's it's it's such a. unique experience as you know. There's. there's not a whole lot out there like. live television. I also did two 30 Rock. lives on that same stage. So, it's super. fun. But when I first started hosting, I. had the home run hitters, man. I had the. the all stars. It was Wig, Forte, Armison, Sedakus, >> legends. >> Everybody on that show were were were. just were just home run hitters. So the. ones I did with Wig, we had so much fun. The woman, she said, "Don't make me. sing." So fun. I did a sketch with Will.

Forte that would never get on the air. now. That was a Halloween sketch where. Will comes to the door, rings the bell, I answer the door, and he's he says, "Happy Halloween." I said, "Are you what. are you dressed at?" He says, "I'M A. CHILD MOLESTER. ALL RIGHT. >> Can you sign and date these papers? I'm. like, wait, what what's actually is. happening? Look it up. It would never. get on the air again. But boy oh boy, it. was funny. Uh, so no, I have I have tons. of great memories like that. And as you.

well know, man, when you're getting. ready to go on that stage and that band. is playing and thumping and ready to go. >> behind that door, man, that is a. >> no one realizes it, but there's about a. foot behind that door. You are up. against the wall of that. >> My shoulders are touching. Yeah, the. door and the wall behind. >> Yeah, it's the same thing. And then. she's screaming out five, four, three, and there you go. You shot out of a. cannon and you hold on for dear life. But it's fun, man. >> It's so much [ __ ] fun. >> You looked like you were having a good. time on it. I noticed that. >> We grew we grew up on the Fererals and. the Farley's and Sanders. So, it's like.

that was and heavy like my my mom and. dad were huge like SNL. >> It was a cultural moment. And it's so. funny thinking back because I watched it. when I was a little kid. Did I mention. my my my parents split up when I was. younger? If I was at my dad's house for. the weekend, I got to watch. >> Yeah, maybe little Acroy. >> for sure. And like super inappropriate. I was 5 6 years old like you know, whatever. But I was I was into the land. shark and the, you know, all the [ __ ].

all the stuff, man. It was so good. It. was so cuz it was so transgressive. There wasn't anything like it. >> And if you didn't see it, you didn't see. it. There was no DVR. There was no clips. on the next day. >> Crazy to even imagine. >> You had to talk to, you know, you had to. go to school the next day and not or. Monday and not have have seen SNL. >> and be a part of those combos. >> You were on the back. You were on your. back foot, man. It was not great. Absolutely. >> That's funny as [ __ ]. >> All right, last one. Welcome to. Hollywood moment. Do you have one?

>> I remember I mean, like I said, I had I. had no money when I when I when I rolled. into Hollywood. And then I remember I'd. gone I had to go back to St. Louis to do. a play that got me my equity card. That. got me into the union. That got me into. this and the that. Then I got my car. towed cuz I have like $2,000 worth of. parking tickets that I wasn't sniffing. being able to pay. >> Yeah. >> So then one day I just looked outside. I. was like, "Well, I guess that's gone.". So now I'm on the bus. >> Okay. >> And I was working a restaurant job and.

and trying to audition. And you know, it's LA is not a easy place to use. public transportation. It's just not. Yeah. >> So, I remember I had I had rollerblades. and I would throw the rollerblades over. my shoulder, get on the bus as close as. I could get to wherever my audition was. and then. >> you were blading it around LA. >> in LA. I mean, not safe. >> So, I'd show up sweaty as a [ __ ]. to whatever commercial audition, the.

Ivory Soap or what, you know, just being. like, I don't think I'm going to get. this. I look like a 100 pounds of dirty. laundry right now. But uh yeah, I mean. it's you just do what you can. You you. you ain't nothing to it but to do it. That was the first lesson I learned was. like listen, no one's going to give you. any excuse. You just got to figure it. out. >> You got to send it, man. Can't live with. those whatifs. >> Yeah. And you just and you got to figure. it out, you know? It's like it's hard. Life is hard. I I remember u my best. friend growing up, he was the best man. at my wedding. Uh his dad played.

professional baseball. Ted Simmons. Maybe you know, maybe you don't. In the. Hall of Fame. Great guy, wonderful man. kind of a surrogate dad to me after my. dad passed away especially and uh when I. was going through, you know, all my. transitional difficulties and whatever, trying to figure out where am I going to. go, how am I going to make it, my dad. just died, what am I going to do? He. goes, "Look, a lot of sad stories in the. world." A lot of sad stories. I played. with guys that grew up, not only did. they not have parents, they didn't have. a glove, you know, but they were they. were gifted, you know, they grew up in.

the Dominican, they grew up wherever, and they they just made it happen. Mhm. >> No one's going to make it happen for. you. You got to make it happen for. yourself. And I really took that lesson. to heart. I still do every day. It's. like it's on you. >> to figure it out. And I listen, we're. all very very fortunate in our lives, right? For sure. Not just health, but. but. >> career opportunities, all the other. things. >> Getting picked like you said, man. >> Getting picked. But it's what you do. after you get picked. >> Do you come do you come correct? Do you. do you show up? You know, we can all get.

in the batters box and and no one bats a. thousand, >> right? >> No one. But if you if you show up and. you're prepared and you're ready to go, that's what that's what it's all about. And I've been a really fortunate in my. career that I've had those moments. I'll. never forget the first day shooting. Madmen. I remember looking at myself in. the mirror and going, "Okay, you got the. job. What are you going to do with it?". >> Hell yeah, man. >> And it was that moment. >> It was that moment where I was like, I'm. going to [ __ ] kill this. I'm going to. kill it. That's what I'm going to do. with it. >> That's so badass, dog. It was it's ch. it's challenge. It ain't easy.

>> Oh, no. >> If everybody could do it, everybody. would. >> Yeah. But that's the beauty of it being. that challenging though is because when. you fight through and you get to, you. know, where you are now, >> you look at uh uh Bobby last night, Bobby, right, man. >> Yeah. >> What a story. >> Yeah, dude. >> It's those kinds of those kinds of. stories that you go, all right, you. know, >> I had no idea about Bobby and his and. his story like that. So, I that was. another like I've always appreciated his. game. >> for sure. And then all of a sudden you. when you get underneath that face mask, all of a sudden you get to hear, you.

know, how how amazing the guy really is. >> Crazy. >> We'll let you get out of here, brother. Thank you for all the [ __ ] Thank you. for the wisdom, man. My pleasure. >> Go, dog. Can't wait to see uh everything. that you got. >> Season two coming out April 3rd. >> Third. >> Thank you to our partner, Apple. >> There's nothing like your first Mac. I. first got mine when my dad brought home. a Mac and I felt like I was the coolest. kid in the world because I could finally. get on a messenger. It was like the.

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save you hundreds. You're in good hands. with All State. Potential savings vary. subject to terms, conditions, and. availability. All State North American. Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. Thank you to John Ham. ONCE AGAIN, THAT. conversation was brought to YOU BY. APPLE. LAST THING BEFORE WE WRAP UP, let's take a look at the old New Heights. Reese's March Madness bracket challenge, guys. Yeah, baby. >> We've been having some upsets, some. incredible games. How about that Yukon. Duke ending? Um,

>> that was insane. >> Yeah, that was absolutely insane. I was. watching that on my iPad because we were. on vacation this week and audibly. screamed in a. >> I hadn't I hadn't jumped out of my seat. from a sporting event in a long time and. it was [ __ ] magical when he [ __ ]. hit that three. I was like in my mind. I'm like too much time when he threw it. up and I was just like I was just. [ __ ] he drained it. The moment the. ball got tipped, you're like, "Oh no,

>> they're going to have a chance to chuck. a three.". >> And then they passed it. He caught it. Didn't like anything, so he just [ __ ]. threw it to the first opening guy. Oh. man, >> that [ __ ] was so [ __ ] epic. >> He also uh said [ __ ] on live television, I believe, when he was in his postgame. uh talk with the reporter on the court. >> Freshman freshman getting used to the. whole situation. A lot of emotions. >> I get it, man. And also, who didn't say. [ __ ] at some point? Even the head the.

head coach's like mom is in the stand. saying, "Holy [ __ ] shit.". >> Yeah, right. >> It was epic, dude. >> Yeah. Dan Hurley, obviously headbutting. officials. Always love to see that. >> Let's get into our bracket. Um, shout. out to the 92enters. Um, and the leaders. of the women's bracket. Uh, >> Emily in Toronto is in the lead. In. second place, we got Amanda Trujillo who. both have Yukon winning. And then we. have somebody rolling with the. Gamecocks, Vanessa Vletcha. I don't know. if any of these names are pronounced.

correctly. Sorry if they're not, >> but congratulations. That's uh you're. doing some pretty good job. >> It does seem like if the Gamecooxs win, Vanessa might have a chance. >> Ooh. >> All righty. Men's leaders, we have. Connor, who has got Michigan. Second. place, we have Abby Pierce rolling with. the Alii. The Ali. I DID NOT KNOW that. the Ali I have not watched college. basketball apparently everybody. >> one of the highlights I remember seeing. and these these boys know how to man. >> I'm enjoying watching them I mean they. knocked out my team [ __ ] Houston god.

damn it they forgot how to play offense. but anyways great job to the Serbs the. the the Balkans. >> dude the the Balkans are killing it man. they're freaking lightening up a lot of. itches and witches. >> new Abby Pierce new. >> Yakoviches yeah know they're killing it. uh James Lewison Yukon uh they You got. win. James has Yukon and then Austin. Stiller has Arizona. All right, so the. top four all have different teams. I do. think Arizona's going to win. Although I.

did think Houston was going to win. So. what the [ __ ] do I know? I also have. watched no basketball. >> I'm not going to lie. I'm [ __ ] jacked. up. I'm pumped up right now because this. is going to be a hell of a Final Four, man. These teams, I think, all match up. pretty goddamn well. And Michigan's been. playing their tail off. I didn't know. how big Michigan was, man. Michigan's. got like a NBA [ __ ] front court, man. But it's going to be uh it's going to be. fun to watch these guys go. And it looks. like Yukon's got the juice right now. after that last win against Duke. Yeah. New Heights staff updates. Currently. tied for first. Uh in the men's bracket,

our intern Brandon and researcher Diana, who both have Arizona winning it all. Jason is in second, but had Houston. winning it. Travis is in third. That's. me. Also have Arizona winning it. So, I. can't pass Brandon or Diana, but I can. take over Jason. >> You will pass me. >> probably. Um, all right. Uh, Jack Jake. is in sixth, but um will win it all if. Michigan makes the finals. Oh, wow. >> Wow. >> That's crazy. >> This is a tight race.

>> Yeah. Um, in the women's bracket, uh, Brandon and Diana also tied for first. Okay. They watch basketball. And Brandon. has Texas winning and Diana has Yukon. winning it. Jason is in second with. South Carolina winning it. And no one. from the New Heights production team. picked UCLA to win it all. I don't know. why that's in there. All right, New. Heights staffer uh that is in trouble. Men's loser with a whopping zero points. gained after a round of 32. Our official.

loser of the men's bracket is our. producer Aaron Luric. Uh sorry Aaron. Um. apologize for throwing you under the bus. there. We got to do better though. >> It's honestly insane. I had never ever. had seen anybody with zero points gained. after the round of 32. >> He missed like even if you're flipping a. coin and picking, he missed all 16. games. >> That's crazy. >> That's wild. >> It was upset central over there in. Aaron's bracket. He definitely just He.

definitely just clicked. There's a click. that says you can have it automatically. filled out. He hit that for sure. Guaranteed. Um, I. say that because the women's loser and. finally with 68. uh points, but no more points remaining, uh, our official loser of the women's. bracket is. me. >> Yes, it is. How are we feeling, Trav? I. >> feel pretty upset that I let it get to. this point. Um but um you know you just.

got to do better in life and you got to. understand the circumstances better and. you got to understand that your brother. is going to go out and cheat and there's. nothing you can do about it. >> What are you so upset about Travis? Why. are you so upset? What are you so upset. about? What am I so upset about is that. this was just a friendly competition and. then after I submitted my [ __ ]. bracket and you hadn't submitted a. bracket yet, we decide as a group. >> This is a false.

timeline. During the show, >> Yep. >> you started to fill out a bracket, did. you not? >> No, I did not fill out a bracket. I was. talking about the final four in the show. in the show. WELL, I LITERALLY TOLD YOU. GUYS I HAVE NOT EVEN looked at the. brackets yet. How am I supposed to do a. bracket recap? And I just started. bullshitting in the final four. Then we. talked about being. >> And then we talked about there being. some type of punishment for the loser on. the show.

>> But the on the show final four. >> because I didn't know that we were doing. a play. >> No, you can make bracket adjustments. until it's due. You can make adjustments. to it. Thank you. Just close cuz you. closed. There's like injuries THAT COME. UP. >> SUBMIT IT. >> I DIDN'T SUBMIT A BRACKET. >> I ALREADY HAD SUBMITTED IT. I didn't. neither of you. Neither of you looked at. the bracket. Neither of you looked at. the bracket. We recorded the show under. false pretenses. Neither of you even. looked at the bracket. [ __ ]. ERRONEOUS. THE TIMELINE. YOU MISLEADING.

You are misleading with the timeline. >> [ __ ] bull ring nose piercing. [ __ ] have Howard BEATING [ __ ]. MICHIGAN? NO, I WOULDN'T. YOU THOUGHT. THEY WERE DUE. >> I'm just going to throw it out there. Your bracket was not submitted until. after we talked about there being a. punishment on the show episode. >> Punishments were talked about. Punishments were talked about. >> That is a true statement. >> We hadn't decided on one, but the idea. punishments could was going to come up. >> Yes. >> Nobody's going to have to get pierced.

We're not piercing you. We're not going. to pierce you. >> The women's bracket. You're right. I. took a chance on Iowa. That's fair, >> dude. women's bracket. Just slide the. number ones forward. Just slide the. number ones forward. >> What is the Is there a punishment for. both brackets or only for the men's. bracket? >> The punishments are for new heights team. members only. >> Yes. >> And I believe we already have our loser. of the men's. >> I trusted the power of Caitlyn Clark, >> Claire KD, and George KD. >> Oh, little name drop. I like you worked. the name drop in there. That's good. >> That's good. >> You know what? My friend George and.

Caitlyn. I don't know if you've heard of them. >> I don't know if you guys heard my. friend. I I just call her Kate. >> I may be a loser in the bracket, but I'm. a winner in life. >> You just feel the energy from you. You're like, those are good people. I'm. going to pick Iowa. >> in the women's bracket. Would have been. good. >> You did pick them in the men's as well, which was better. >> Yeah, I didn't have them going to the. elite 8, though. >> So, the bet is only for the men's. bracket. We're not incorporating the. loser. >> Oh, no. I kind of sucks. >> Yeah. >> So, how what is the ratio? How do how do.

we figure this out? How's how is it. determined who lost? Who is the loser of. both brackets? >> Yeah, I'm glad we're figuring this out. at the end of it. This is awesome. Give. it to me, Brandon. I know you got. something. >> No, Travis, you've you've already lost. the women's. lost. >> Tell me what I'm lost. You lost the You. lost the women's bracket. >> So, who has to eat the waffles at the. Waffle House? >> Well, if that's the punishment we'd. like, Travis might be joining. Uh, >> wait, what? How? Oh, so two people.

>> So, you lost the women's. You lost the. women's. >> So, there's going to be two people that. have to do this. I. >> feel like we should do two punishments. YEAH, THAT'S ONLY FAIR. WE HAVE TO DO. TWO PUNISHMENTS. >> Do you guys understand how betting. works? >> We talked about there being a. punishment. We all agreed to a. punishment. >> We all agreed to us. There was a blood. >> Nobody agreed to the agreed to. >> We said it on Mike. We said it on mic is. sacred. >> We also said on Mike Jason's final four. in the men's bracket. >> Well, if he didn't submit, he didn't. submit. You can put anything you in. there before you hit submit. It doesn't. count. >> You can do whatever you want till the.

ball is set. >> Do you think I'm going to trust Wyatt? Travis, >> I did. I did. I trusted your daughter. And your daughter has no integrity. She. knows [ __ ] nothing. >> Well, let me tell you, she does know. nothing. She is six. >> What are you teaching her over there? Huh? She doesn't even know who'd win in. a fight between Michigan and Howard. >> She's starting to figure out how to use. her numbers to do math above the number. 10. Travis, that's who you TRUSTED TO TO. EVEN GET 16. >> WE got to get her in the advance.

classes. Jason, >> SHE CAN BARELY COUNT TO THE NUMBER OF. TEAMS IN THE NCAA TOURNAMENT. >> There's no way she's 6 years old and. can't count. >> She can't She can definitely count. I. said barely. >> Takes a second. >> Once once she gets to 100, it starts to. get a little dicey, but she's. >> Does she Does she just do that thing. where she just starts counting and just. wants you to know how high she can. count? Yes, we're in that stage. >> I was I was hanging out with some some. children. They're like, "You want to see. something cool?" And I was like, "Sure.". And they're like, "You want to Ohio. count?" I was like, "Oh, [ __ ] no. I.

don't." And then they just went. We got. to 45. I was like, "Do you want to go. outside?". >> Welcome to 98 9 bottles of beer on the. wall, but we're not going to stop early. We're going to keep it going. >> Do you want to know how I can count? I'm. like, "Oh, no. That's that sucks. That's. a terrible trick.". >> I don't know. I think you can kind of. You can kind of shut your brain off once. they start counting, right? You don't. have to like keep them honest. >> You'd be surprised. You'd be surprised. You can just let him go. >> No. Demand attention. >> Heard it a bunch. >> All right. Do you want to. >> All right. >> Let's do Let's do Let's maybe podcast.

>> So, the men's bracket is still up. Oh, there is a loser in the men's bracket. Who's the loser in the men's bracket? >> Aaron, we could do one overall loser of. combined worse score. >> Would you guys rather do that? >> Would you guys rather do that? Yeah. Are. we. >> No, that intro. >> No. >> Well, then what do you want to do? You're being fussy. >> Can we stop acting like eating waffles. at a Waffle House is that big of a. punishment? As long as you do it before. training camp, you're fine. >> But how do I And every waffle is an. hour. >> Here's Aaron. Here's a explain. >> You got 24 hours and every waffle is an.

hour. >> Take off for like. >> I know you're. I'd rather do a drinking situation than. do a [ __ ] waffle situation like this. I'd rather have to sit at a bar from. start to finish. >> Can we go to Chili's? >> The punishment isn't about what you. would rather do, loser. The punishment. is a punishment.

>> We. did agree. >> Your buddy Aaron, >> what if we ask uh one of our guests. today, Coach Calhoun, what the. punishment SHOULD BE? >> NO, >> WE'RE GOING TO DO we're going to do. Coach Calhoun. I'm going to ask him. That's my one question to coach Kellen. >> Eron, how did you not get a single Sweet. 16? >> [ __ ] if I know, guy. I don't I don't. watch college basketball. >> Neither do I. Jason, Neither do I. >> None of us did. That's not an excuse. >> And [ __ ] asked his [ __ ] ESPN.

colleague that is a professional in. sports gambling. >> I did not. I did not. >> Who's going to [ __ ] win what [ __ ]. job? It is so redistant. Jason [ __ ]. cheated so bad and you guys are just. going to. >> Here we go. Now, here's the real. accusation. Let's get into this. Well, I. did not ask an ESPN colleague. I asked. my best friend Cory Sims, who used to be. an equipment manager for the Cincinnati. Bearcats, who is now my financial. adviser, and he gave me the lowdown. We.

went a straight. >> You're right. You're right. You gave it. to you. You You had somebody else fill. out your bracket, which is my entire. wanted to win, I would have had somebody. else. >> We filled it out together. We filled it. out together. I could have [ __ ]. called Jay [ __ ] Phillis and told Jay, "Hey, what's your bracket? Let me copy. every [ __ ] answer. >> You cheated, Jason. >> A little name drop there. A little name. drop in Travis would have been. called teamwork. That's called teamwork, guys. >> That's called. collusion. >> It's calledusion. >> It's called teamwork. I'M GIVING CORY. CREDIT. I'M NOT TELLING YOU THAT I PICK.

THE NAMES. I'M SAYING I WENT TO MY BUDDY. who's an expert cuz I don't know [ __ ]. about [ __ ] basketball. And I asked a. guy that I USED TO GO. >> THAT'S THE FUN OF IT, JASON. NONE OF US. DO. >> First place in both men's and women's. ball nowhere right here. >> No, you did not. No, you didn't. You. didn't even pick Texas. Stop it. >> I can't believe you guys don't want to. go hang out at a waffle house. >> We don't have waffle houses in. California. We got to find something. else. >> Yeah. I mean, if it's a Waffle House, at. least it's like, you know, waffle in a. show. It might be a fight. So, that's a. positive. >> If you get in a fight at the Waffle. House, you can leave immediately. >> Let's do it.

>> Wait, hold on. Hold on. If I get in a. fight at the Waffle House, are you guys. is the company covering my legal fees? >> Uh, I will. No, >> I'm sorry. What was that? >> No, we do. We have no lawyers or Asia on. this staff. Next week, we're also going. to announce the winners of our Reese's. and New Heights bracket challenge. So, tune in to that. >> And the last thing, there was another. huge basketball story this week, and we. had to get this guy on to talk about it. That's right. Let's go ahead and toss it. to the old. >> University of Cincinnati ball coach. >> What's up, boys?

>> Welcome back, coach. How we feeling? >> Oh, man. Exhausted. It's never ending. >> Like a never ending cycle. You wake up, you go to sleep for 4 hours and just. deal with uh chaos from start to finish. But it's good to be back, man. >> Oh, man. I had this was my favorite. question because everybody loves to talk. about the old chili down there in. Cincinnati. And I I'm very curious. What's your What was your first culinary. stop? What was their first like go-to? I. got to get some food. I've missed it so.

much as I' since I've left. >> Well, it hasn't been Skyline yet. Uh, honestly, it's been the uh it's been the. football cafeteria, man. It's the. closest thing. >> There you go, man. >> Tell you what, you guys built a a heck. of a facility. Uh, guys, wow, that thing. is a beast. >> I'm assuming it's been pretty crazy for. you because you're you've been kind of. separated from the university longer. than we have. How crazy is it seeing how. much the campus has grown since you. since you're being back? >> Yeah, man. I told uh Hugs, I told all. those former players that were there.

It's can't even recognize it honestly. You know, when I was here, man, this. this was kind of a school in the in the. inner city and you know, like a commuter. type school to be honest with you. And. it's just changed so much, man. It's. it's a phenomenal uh institution. We. have a ton to sell, man. I I think this. thing's going to be great. >> Yeah, it's remarkable. every time I go. back like you know obviously the uh. facilities for the sport for the. football team basketball team are all. pretty brand new. Uh but it's not even.

just that like around campus the whole. area has been built up so much. There's. so many restaurants and bars and things. that weren't there when we were there. UC used to stand for under construction. That was the whole joke when I was. there. Like they were just constantly. trying to build it up. >> No doubt. >> Uh but it's remarkable what it's turned. into. >> What was your favorite spots? I know you. guys had some spots when you were down. here. >> So, Skyline was one of them, especially. at two in the morning at Skyline over on. Lello. >> No, first of all, Jason's speaking for. himself right here. >> Jason speaking for himself there.

Skyline being the last place I go. Shout. out to Skyline, though. And Gold Star. Much love to you guys. I know you guys. have built the hell of his. establishment, but I'm an Adriaticos. pizza guy. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. I want to go there. I. haven't been there yet, Trev. I got to. hit it. >> Adriaticos is fantastic. And then I I. got a shout out a spot Martino over on. Shortvine. >> Okay. >> Good people that run it and they had. these these Pittsburgh style wings and. this. >> Pittsburgh Steak Salad that we used to. get there and uh we just got to know the.

people that own that place and it was. it's an awesome spot. So you get a. chance. Martino is great over there on. Short Five. >> I'm going to hit it. Yep. I'll hit it. next week. >> And then of course you know Montgomery. in Come on now. Get some of them. barbecue ribs. >> That's where uh Hugs' radio show used to. be. So, I'm looking forward for our. radio show will be out there. Yeah. >> I didn't know this. You actually were a. student at Cincinnati as well. So, you. you started at Cleveland State as a. player. >> Yep. >> And then you transferred to UC, finished. your degree, and went into coaching. right away. What does Cincinnati mean to.

you? How do you feel being back? >> To be honest with you, it's kind of. crazy. It's surreal, right? That you go. through life um you know, there's. certain things that happen in your life. that you're like like a wow moment. probably for you guys whether it was. your first start, first Super Bowl, whatever it was, there's just certain. things that happened and this is kind of. one of those. Uh it's been a crazy. journey. I took an unconventional path, took a D2 job from uh West Virginia. Uh. you know, after I didn't get Travis, uh. you know, I had to go a different route.

>> He turned us down, man. He turned us. down. >> I'll tell you who turned you down. Ed. Kelsey turned you down. That's the real. story of it. We We can get into that. Yeah, we got to get into some of that if. we got time. >> Are you kidding? We would love to. >> You know, uh just been a wild journey, man. I've coached at every level. Uh. obviously Utah State's one of the best. schools in the country. Uh best student. student section I've ever seen. We got. to get that back here at UC. Uh but this. is a place where you can win a national. championship. And uh I think it's the.

best job uh in the state of Ohio for. basketball. I really do. I've always. thought that. >> Our alumni here is real. Uh we got a. real fan base and uh this campus we. could sell. So I'm excited. >> That's awesome to hear, man. >> Everybody I think was rooting for Utah. State and the uh tourney just because we. were like, "Hey, we're all hoping that. coach Calhoun comes back home and you. know it was it was fun watching you guys. this season and in the tourney.". >> Yeah, it was so cool to see what you. guys built over there at Utah too, man. You could tell, you could tell. So,

dating back to old 2007. uh back when uh you and Hugs actually. and the entire like like staff went uh. to West Virginia, I believe Kansas State. maybe before that. >> Yeah. Yeah. going into West Virginia, I. was I had already kind of committed and. I I was I was looking around for at some. basketball schools and old Barry Egan, Coach Egan, Ohio basketball coach, uh. coached me my my junior senior years and.

and Egan had a really good connection. with you guys down in Cincinnati. So, I. go down to West Virginia. You're my. point of contact. You guys treat me like. family, like I had never been treated. before. I was Jason's little brother and. Cincinnati didn't even give me this much. attention. >> Trav, I'll be honest, man. You could. hoop, man. That's what people, you know, obviously you're going to go down as as. the greatest tight end in my in my book, but uh you were a hooper, man. I mean, you know, all those Heights guys, you. were a beast.

>> I appreciate that. I was a I was a. hooper at heart for sure. You went to. Villa Angel St. Joe's. You went to. Joe's, right? >> Yeah. Joe's guy, man. Yeah. >> I wish you would have told my dad that. So I I came back from the West Virginia. trip and I told my dad, man, I was like, "Dad, I think I want to really like give. myself a chance at playing division one. college basketball and play for, you. know, Coach Huggin." He looked at me, he. said, "You are a man of your word. You. want to be like these kids that that. commit to a that commit to a university. and then decommit and then now and now. the integrity of your word doesn't mean.

anything. You have to be a man of your. word." And I look around at everybody. nowadays in college, I'm just like, "WHAT WAS I DOING?". >> YEAH. YEAH. >> WELL, nowadays you guys would have made. a lot of money. I COULD TELL YOU THAT. >> A LOT OF MONEY. >> NO, MAN. But you could tell the way you. guys ran in uh or the way you guys ran. that uh the ship in West Virginia and. and just the camaraderie that you saw on. the floor and how and how everybody on. the bench was involved in the game. Um. you could tell that's something you kind.

of took from the the Hugs uh regime. Correct. >> Yeah. I mean, honestly, guys, Hugs is. one of the greatest coaches of all time, but what people don't talk about is he's. got three former coaches, assistants. that are now in the Final Four. Brad. Underwood at Illinois, obviously, Frank, and and uh Mick Cronin. And Coach. Cronin's been unbelievable to me uh. throughout my coaching career. So, when. this opportunity came, he was one of the. first guys I called. Uh but yeah, I. mean, I've took taken some stuff from.

everybody. Joe Missoula is one of my. best friends. I was the best man in his. wedding. coached him at uh West. Virginia. So, he's going to be involved. in the program. Nice. Uh you know, we. want to get you guys back. We're talking. about doing a fantasy camp. Uh we used. to run one at West Virginia, so we might. have you guys get back uh as well if we. can get your schedules cleared as I know. you guys are, you know, doing a lot. >> You know, we would love to. That would. be a blast. >> Travis knows this, but I've been trying. to dunk for the first time in my life. I. think I'm going to get there. I think. it's going to happen, man. 38 YEARS OLD.

I'M DUNKING, BABY. that's going to. happen. >> I know one thing. My wife my wife loves. your wife, Jason. She thinks she's. awesome. So, you you guys have your. personalities and your brand, man. You. guys are connecting so many people. Uh, and you guys don't know this, but I was. very close with Donald Dissio, Trav. So, we were. How about that? >> Yeah, we we became diehard Chiefs fans, man. We flew out every year with a group. uh of Youngstown guys and uh you know uh.

the Phantom Fireworks guys and all those. guys. >> Yeah, that's our crew. >> Those Youngsttown guys, they they stay. together. Wait, so you're from. Youngsttown or East East Liverpool. basically is Youngtown? I mean, >> I was born in East Liverpool, but I grew. up in Cleveland, man. I'm I'm a. Cleveland guy. Uh but yeah, I spent. seven years at Youngstown. Uh Jim. Trestle was a huge mentor of mine. Uh, and you know, so I've had a lot of good. guys help me along the way. >> There's some good people in that that. Youngtown era, man, or that area, and.

they they really do lend a helping hand, and Tres, I mean, I could throw out. countless names that have said the exact. same thing about Trestle being able to. be such a a helping hand in in their. journey, man. So, that's awesome, big. guy. And it's it's cool to hear that. Missoula is even coming back to or. coming around UC. That's pretty cool. stuff right there. >> Who do you guys like? Who's your NBA. teams, man? You watch any of it or. >> I live in Philadelphia. I'm connected to. the Philly teams. >> Yeah, you got to watch what you say, Jason. >> Well, yeah, I like the Sixers, but.

>> I'm We Cavs fans through and through. Yeah. >> Yeah. Me, too. I mean, I love the Cavs. Sam Merrill, Utah State guy, so we. become close. >> I'm a Mark Price guy. The Price is. always right. Um, we can go down, we can. go down the list. Bobby Surah was one of. my childhood favorites there in the 90s. >> Me, too. Oh my god. I had the jersey. >> Oh, the three. Yeah, the three. Yeah, the the throwback. Yeah, >> I'm a big Anderson Verha guy. I like I. like hustle defense, man. I want I want. those hustle plays, coach.

>> Hey, I got to say this, too. While we're. on Cleveland, guys, uh there was a quote. of referencing you to another Cleveland. guy, uh Maverick Carter. I've known. Jared since we were 11 years old, and. the only person that I've met that loves. the game is as committed to the game as. LeBron. And it's a tie. That's an. incredible quote because I think LeBron. is renowned for his love of basketball. Uh, but I do got to know, are do you. love the game enough to headbutt an. official if you potentially aren't. >> maybe a few years back? Yeah, that was. uh Hey, Danny Danny's on a whole another.

level, but hey, he's got two natties, so. he can get away with that. Maverick and. I grew up together. Uh, you know, we. were both uh AU guys, so we would spend. the weekend at each other's house. Uh, you know, I I I eat, sleep, drink. basketball. I don't golf. Um, you know, I'm constantly trying to evolve, learn. I think one of the things we'll be able. to track to Cincinnati is our style, man. We really teach guys to play green, to find, create, keep advantages. We. teach spacing. Uh, you know, it's all.

about reads, right? Like, you got to be. able to read the game, and you guys are. elite guys that have read the game for a. long time. And that's what we do. We try. to train their eyes, man. It's it's a. whole progression, right, from the off. season to the preeason. And a lot of. this I got from Joe. I'll be honest, man. When I went up to Boston five, six. years ago, it changed my trajectory as a. coach. And kids don't want to play in. our system because we score the ball. And at the end of the day, man, it's. entertainment. People want to pay money.

to see touchdowns and they want to see. the ball go through the basket. So, we're going to sell it. >> Man, you're getting me FIRED UP RIGHT. NOW, COACH. >> I love talking about this stuff, too, cuz football is I think I got like one. semester left. Eligibility, coach. Hey, we'll get you a good NIL deal, man. >> Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, >> you gota ask your wife. >> Yeah. A good sixman off the bench. Yeah, >> sweetie. I'm going back to school. >> You are bringing up something though. that I thought I've always been. fascinated with and I've never. understood because I never played. organized basketball. I played pickup. basketball. And something I've always.

found fascinating is like it's a free. flowing game. Football is much more. rigid in your rules and assignments. Each play you have a very specific. responsibility. And one of the things. that I think has allowed Travis the. ability to excel in football is because. he played basketball because he has the. ability to. go off schedule. That's the right move to make.

in that regard. Like and you you think. about like the Triangle offense and how. innovative that was. And I don't I don't. even know what I'm asking you cuz I. don't know a [ __ ] thing about. basketball. I know where you're going. with it. I mean, at the end of the day, you have to evolve. You have to change. with the times, right? And I think. there's not a better guy that's done it. than than Joe Mula. I mean, look what. he's done since he's gotten to Boston, you know? But it's beyond that. It's. relationships. Uh, you got to have you. got to have the chemistry, right? What. what Travis has done. And, you know, my.

family teases me. You know, I changed. from the Browns. There was only so much. I could take from the Cleveland Browns. So, I got on the Chief's wagon with the. Youngstown crew and Reese and Rocky and. we we made a lot of trips out there. Trav don't even realize. I've been in. Arrowhead a lot. >> That's awesome, man. It's a good place. to watch a game. >> Oh, it's unbelievable. I mean, if people. haven't seen a game in there, it it's it. forget the game. The the pregame. tailgates are it's like a college. atmosphere. It's crazy. >> I had no idea you were you were already.

on the uh the Chiefs wagon, man. That's. awesome. I'm gonna send you a picture of. me at the game with my boys. I'll send. it to you. You'll love it. >> You got to come back out for another. one, man. If you get a chance, >> coach, I saw you on uh Dan Horde earlier. this week talking about the cross town. shootout and the How important is it to. dominate Ohio? I that was a big thing I. took away from it. >> Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, man, uh you know, rivalries are. everything, right? We all got them. Uh. we all have that team, but th this one. is really special. Uh, you know, I think.

it's one of the most unique. You know, you got Duke Carolina, you got. Cincinnati Xavier, right? There's two. monster basketball programs within four. or five miles. So, those are games you. got to win, right? You got to defend. home turf. You got to rep your city. Uh, we're going to take a lot of pride in. that, you know, and and President. Trestle talked about Ohio State, Michigan with me for years. It's got to. be, you know, talked about it. It's got. to be trained in our guys' minds that uh. we got to win this game, you know, and. it starts uh in the recruiting process.

>> It doesn't matter where you are. If. you're if you have the chance to watch. UC basketball, you're always going to. check that cross town shootout uh you. know, game. And I mean, it's just uh. it's something that I I already know. you're going to take to heart, man. But. I got to get back to some of the some of. the high school days and a little bit. more of this Northeast Ohio uh love, man. Um, one thing I have to ask you. about is the final game of your high. school career was against one of the. greatest basketball players of all time. >> Yeah.

>> I had the pleasure of seeing LeBron in. high school and he looked like a man. amongst boys. How did it feel playing. against him in high school? >> Well, I'll be honest, that's one that. haunts you, right? Like you got games. that haunt you. That one still haunts me. because we Yeah, we would have been. state champs. I'll never forget tra my. high school coach uh Ted Quazniaak uh. just a tremendous person. He went and. saw LeBron. He came back. He saw he saw. Clark Kellogg back in the day at Joe's. and he said this is the greatest high.

school player I've ever seen. And I'm. like I'm a senior. I'm like you know who. who's this freshman he's talking about. >> So boom, fast forward two months later. and this dude is just killing. Um it was. crazy. I mean we were up the whole game. back and forth. Maverick was on that. team. So, we talk about it a lot. But, you know what made LeBron so good is. guys like you, Mahomes, I mean, you look. at every sport, they just know the game. They see the plays before. He had a. crosscourt pass I still think about to.

this day in transition as a freshman. >> That was one of the things. Obviously, his athleticism, I didn't get to see him. till he was a senior, so his athleticism. was like he was in the NBA already, but. uh his ability to pass the ball anywhere. on the dime at any moment was so unique. and it's he made it look so effortless. >> I mean, at that point, he was like 66. and he grew like from freshman to. sophomore. He got like three more. inches, you know? Crazy. Absolutely.

crazy. >> I got one last thing. If you see if you. h if you happen to see a Super Bowl ring. lying around some chili in Fifth Third. Arena, >> you make sure to let me know cuz I. >> Did you lose it in Cincinnati? Was it a. good night? >> It was a great night. It was a great. night. >> It was an unbelievable night. Yeah. >> Well, we got to get you guys back. >> Absolutely. Love to come back. Definitely coming back for a game to see. you uh rock it out and uh hopefully um. hopefully we can even get back for a. little cross town shootout. >> That'd be great. Yeah, I'm glad Reggie. connected us, man. Reggie King, great.

guy, man. Shout out to. your guy. >> Great. >> You're the man, coach. We appreciate. you, big guy. We're We're rooting for. you and uh if you ever need a thing, man, please just reach out. >> Thanks, guys. Appreciate this. >> Thank you to Coach Calhoun. >> Coach Calhoun, BABY. >> YEAH, BABY. That's the one and only. Happy to have him back IN CINCINNATI. THAT WRAPS UP ANOTHER EPISODE OF NEW H. THANK YOU TO JOHN HAM AND COACH CALHOUN. CHECK OUT John Ham on the new season of.

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caffeinated beverage. But yes, >> it's going to take one second. >> It's fine. I just feel like it's always. something. >> His eyes roll. You guys aren't ready. >> That actually did sound like Brandon. >> You got a great impression. Do it. Do. it. How do I sound, Jason? Do my Do an. impression of me. How do I sound? Oh, how do I sound Jason? God damn you.