Jeff Stoutland on Leaving Philly, Evaluating Lineman & A Legendary Eagles Roundtable | Bonus EP

How has it felt to have March and not. going into a building and kind of. preparing for a season like you have. been for 44 years? >> Yeah. AWESOME. AWESOME. I'M JUST BEING HONEST. >> WELCOME TO THIS BONUS episode of New. Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and. girls. This is a wondrous show brought. to you today by Planet Fitness.

We are your hosts of Travis Kelce and my. big brother Jason Kelce out of Cleveland. Heights, Ohio, University of Cincinnati. grads. Go Cats. Uh subscribe on YouTube. wherever you get your podcast and follow. the show on all social media at New. Heights Show with one S for fun clips. throughout the week. Jason, why don't. you tell the people what we have on this. wonderful episode? >> Alrighty. On today's bonus episode, this is a. special one to me. WE GOT JEFF STOUTLAND. COMING IN. That's right, the old ball. coach. We've been trying to get this. Stoutland episode out for a while and we. just wanted to make it, you know, done.

right. Stout means a lot to me, so we. wanted to make it a special one and. something that honored him for the 13. years that he spent as the Eagles. offensive line coach and the guys that. he ended up transforming and making long. careers out of them. So, enjoy this. bonus episode with Jeff Stoutland, Travis Kelce, Brent Celek, Jordan. Mailata, and I get me. >> Jason, you want to do the honors? >> Sure do, Trav. Been looking forward TO. THIS ONE.

>> ALRIGHTY, OUR GUEST TODAY IS A SIX-FOOT. OFFENSIVE LINE COACH FROM STATEN ISLAND, NEW YORK. HE'S A MEMBER OF THE SOUTHERN. CONNECTICUT UNIVERSITY HALL OF FAME. HE. WON TWO BCS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS WITH. ALABAMA. HE'S A TWO-TIME SUPER BOWL. CHAMPION WITH THE PHILADELPHIA EAGLES. IN HIS 13 SEASONS AS THE EAGLES. OFFENSIVE line coach, HE COACHED SEVEN. DIFFERENT PLAYERS TO A COMBINED 27 PRO. BOWLS, SIX DIFFERENT PLAYERS TO A. COMBINED 16 ALL PROS. NOW WITHOUT. FURTHER ADO, PLEASE WELCOME THE HEAD. PRESIDENT OF STOUTLAND UNIVERSITY, JEFF.

STALIN. HERE WE GO. >> GO STALIN. >> HERE WE GO. >> WELCOME TO THE SHOW, big guy. >> First of all, I'm not 6-ft tall. >> Oh, you used to be. You used to be. >> Never was 6-ft tall, ever. >> You were never 6-ft tall. >> 6'1, right? >> Back I was 6'2, I went down to like 6'1. and 3/4 or a half. I broke my neck so many I crushed my. neck so many times that I. That's what it is. It's those stingers. from freaking playing linebacker. >> That's right. You know it.

>> Hold on, linebacker? Linebacker, coach? >> know that? That's a whole story. That's a whole 'nother story. >> This is crazy. It makes sense though. You know every part of the defense. Which uh which makes you a great. offensive line coach, I'm sure there's. so many other qualities as well. But I. always thought that was the unique thing. about Jason is Jason's always been a. defensive-minded. kid and person growing up and then they. throw him on the offensive side and he. knows. where everybody is, their gaps, their. alignments, their how they're. communicating and everything. He's kind.

of had the keys to the test. >> Our our meetings would start like and. Jason can attest to this, we would go over identification of. defensive fronts, pressures, um. uh whole numbering system in terms of. the pressures, uh verbage, what do we call the. different pressures so we could. communicate to each other like the our. own language. So defense, it was like. Hoosiers. You didn't touch a ball. before. It was all defense. When is the. front going to move? When is it not. going to move? And I had a lot of feedback from players.

over the years that I coached that would. say. I never learned so much about defense in. my life. Like. >> Right. >> But that's kind of a system and I I. believe in a system. I do. >> Hell yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's fascinating. >> You know when we were together for 13. years and watching the way defenses. would evolve and then they would change. what they're doing because they know. that we know what they're doing. Like. we'd have guys go other places. and that was one of the things that like. you know you're onto something when.

other teams are starting to shift it. They're starting to hide the linebacker. alignment cuz you know when they're in a. 40 alignment that they're giving away. the pressure. They're giving away the. spike. You know that when they're. they're in a certain stance that they're. they're giving you information and. we we would spend hours looking at that. stuff and Stahli would come in with all. of these pointers when they're in this. and this and that's honestly one of the. things I miss most about being in the. room with the coach is going over all. that stuff. I mean that was so much fun. >> Yeah, but you know what you know what. you know what started to happen as you.

know and I I hate to say this but it's. true. One year we had I think it was. eight players. I don't I don't know the. exact number but. >> Yeah. >> We had eight players that were plucked. off our roster. to other teams. So when we discuss all these little. details you you don't think they're. going to the other teams? >> Oh, for sure. >> So we started we started having our own. little. like we would just look at each other. I'd look right I'd look in his eyes and.

he'd be like. >> Like. Yeah. >> You see what I see? And then we would be. like all right. Then I say just keep. watching people and then the other. players are like what are they talking. about? And I just say keep watching. Let's see if this is holding up or not. and we would pick up on these these. things. >> Yep. Listen, I knew we were going to get. bogged down in this right away. >> Right away. >> First of all, first of all, coach. you've been you've been out of coaching. for a month now. for the first time how many years have. you been a coach consecutively? Well, I.

know you were 13 years for the Eagles. but consecutively every time at this. time of the year you've been preparing. for a season for how many years. straight? >> 44 years straight. >> Oh my gosh. >> Yeah, it's a long time. >> Well, how how does it feel right now? How how does it feel to have March and. not going into a building and kind of. preparing for a season like you have. been for 44 years? >> Yeah. AWESOME. LIKE.

I'M JUST BEING HONEST. >> YOU'RE. >> I'M JUST BEING HONEST. Like Like, you. know, that Sunday night in the off. season, you you know, the off season cuz. you got to you got to realize you work 7. days a week, I guess, July. right on through until. >> Yeah. >> February, middle of February, even later. than that if you keep playing like uh. travel like we all did to get you know, every every year. So, then it becomes. then it becomes a very short off season. and uh you know, then then you have.

another whole deal with the with the. draft and evaluations, but you'd have a. million I mean a million things to be. doing on a timeline and you're thinking. about it on Sunday night and you're. like, "Oh my goodness, I got to get in. there earlier cuz I got to get this. done, that done. I don't want to stay. there all night. It's the off season.". and you're always thinking about stuff. and. that's a cool feeling not you know, 60. minutes on Sunday night not having to. worry about or thinking about and. actually being home, just being home. with my family and not having my mind.

racing somewhere else. That's It's. really been good. >> That's awesome. That's awesome. You've been getting some family time. with Allison and I know you By the way, new grandfather. >> Let's go. >> Just thought of that. That's right. >> LET'S GO. >> WE GOT TO DO THAT. THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY OF THIS. STUFF right there. Congratulations, coach. >> Thank you. >> Well, let's uh let's get back to the. >> Yeah, what What's next? Like you're. you're you're you're sitting down right. now. I know you're enjoying yourself, but you haven't officially announced.

you're retired. You've obviously stepped. away from the Philadelphia Eagles, but. do you have. any idea what you want to do from here. on? Like are you are you done done? Like. where where are we at, coach? So, um. if you can like rewind the tape here, go back a little bit, and your last 3. years of your career, we would have this. conversation. at the end of every year. You'd come at. at some point, you had a little time to, you know, rest and think about it, and. then you'd come in. Coach, you have a.

few minutes to talk, and we would close. the door, and we'd sit down, and you you. cuz you're an emotional guy, you you get. a little emotional, and we would talk. through you you know, what the future. is. And I would never give tell anybody. what they should do, or if you ask me. for my advice, I I just and I would say. to you, I think you're going to know. when it's time. >> Yes, I remember that very well. >> With all the changes that were going on. and and stuff, and uh.

I I it just came a point here uh not. long ago where. I was very aware of my surroundings and. my and I was saying to myself, this might be that time. And. so, a lot of us don't. people that work for a very, very long. time in their life, they struggle. They very they have a. very hard time of making this decision. >> Yeah. >> And I don't even know what the decision. is. I just felt like it was the right. decision.

And I I've always believed in taking. control of of my future and. and. who I am and what I do, and so, I just. felt it. So, there there's that, and now you ask, what is the future? So, all of a sudden, you make a decision like that, and I. really wasn't ready to make that this I. I had been thinking, and you know, I had. actually spoken to you about like. this is going to this day for me is. going to come. I don't know, but it's not that far.

away. And this isn't that long ago, and. so, now you think about it, where it. where do you go with this? But I will. say I will say this to you. I promise you this. I am jacked up and. excited and I have all these I've got. all these ideas right now and I I don't. really feel like. revealing what I want I First of all, I. can't really do much. I want to just sit. back for year and just. >> Reinvent yourself and. >> Yeah, I want to reset. I want to reset.

and most importantly I've been married. for like 33 34 maybe 35 I don't know. she'll get mad at me but I it's it's. it's in that area 33 34 35 I think it's. 34. >> Let's go with 34. Let's go with 34. Let's go with 34. >> All right, so. and I think that's actually the number. But uh it's been my our entire marriage. I've not been home. I've hardly been. home. And so. every single night we're sitting in the. morning we'll have coffee we'll sit and.

talk or in the evening. I haven't done. that ever ever. And so there's an. adjustment period too now when you when. you do stuff like this but it's exciting. and it's it's it's a whole another. chapter in your life and I'm excited. about that and. and to have other things to do and and. uh believe me there'll be things that. I'm going to do in football cuz I love. Here's what I love to do guys. I love. evaluating offensive lineman. I think. it's very very difficult. If you miss on. offensive lineman in this league.

>> Mhm. >> you're in trouble. >> Yeah. >> Yep. You're you're going to get set. back. >> Yeah. >> We all know there's teams that have had. have had that happen and it's going to. cost you. So I know how important that. is and I think I'm I think I'm pretty. good at it by the way and so I love the. process of that and so I think that'll. be something down the road where. I'll be involved with doing some things. like that. >> I love to hear it. It sounds like you're.

you're excited about the the new style. of life and and still being a part of. the game or around the game. But I got. to ask you coach, what was what was your. first impression of Jason Kelce? Both on. film and when he walked in the building. >> Well, first of all, uh. I want to be around people that are. passionate. They love the game. You can have all the critical factors. You can have all the skill, all the. things needed to play good and all that.

But if you're not passionate and you. don't love the game, it it it's probably. not going to work out very well. It's. going to you'll you'll be okay, whatever. But you're never going to make. it to the to the top of the top of the. top like uh like both you guys have. And. so, number one, that was the first. impression was this guy is. this guy is completely bought it. He is. but there's things I can do that I. believe to help him. So, one day he uh. travel I don't know if you ever heard. the story, but I don't know if Jason.

does want me to tell the story or not, but uh you it you know, it is what it. is. >> Feel free. Feel free. >> He hyperextended He hyperextended Well, he got hit. It wasn't He was ripping. Again, he he doesn't know. There's no. other gear for Jason. It's. 100 mph or it's nothing. Shut him down. I'm out. Whatever. So, he hyperextends. his elbow. I think it was a running back. ran into his arm. His arm went You can't. see me, but his arm was out like that.

and the back ran right into his arm. He. hyperextended his elbow. SO, HE GOES. OH! HE GOES DOWN. HE'S SCREAMING. I don't really know how bad it was cuz, you know, Jason better than I know. Jason, but he was screaming. I thought. he broke his shoulder and his arm. So, he rips his helmet off and threw it. across There was three fields in Philly. Across It was the first day I was We. were out in OTAs and I was like, "Holy. smoke, I'm in for a treat." And then I.

I remember JP just looking at me smiling. like, "Get ready, big boy. You ain't. seen nothing yet.". YOU AIN'T. YOU AIN'T GOING TO SEE NOTHING YET. >> I remember that day very well. >> You got to do something with that. energy, man. If you have a good old. Kelsey helmet throw, it's always in the. back pocket, man. We got that thing. ready. >> Have you Is that part of your game, too? Have you thrown a helmet? >> it's just now I think it's just yeah. >> You've done it in a game, haven't you? >> There's a few There's a few memes out. there. It I. I didn't throw it three football fields.

over, but I gave it a good toss. >> a helmet in an actual NFL game? >> Yeah, yeah. Coach wasn't too happy about. it. Coach wasn't too happy about it. Had to. apologize to a few people. >> We can laugh about it now. Not the best, but. >> Yeah, wasn't the best moment, but. >> Well, I don't want to I want to be more. talking about the overall career, but I. do have to ask last season, right? You. guys go from winning the Super Bowl. setting a record at the running back. position with the rushing game.

What What happened last year? Just in. general. Like, what was the reason for. the struggles in your mind? I don't know. what went wrong last season with the. Birds? >> Well, I I think anytime uh things don't. go well and I don't I don't want to. sound like I'm on a like in an interview. for. but yeah, it's the truth. It's not It's. execution and it's calling the right. play at the right time and not running. bad plays in the bad defenses. I mean, it ain't that hard. It ain't I'm not. going to sit here and make up all these.

That's. pretty much it. >> Well, the one thing Talk about speed and. attention to detail and how much each. little inch and step matters. One of the. things that was the most surprising. looking this year was the tush push, to. be honest with you. Cuz that's a play. that is quarterback sneak play. Even. before it What a tush push, it was a. play that we've run at like a 90% clip. year after year and to see that struggle. at times this past season, I mean it's.

Last year they were going to ban it. Right? I went to the owner's meeting. They're looking to get rid of it. Why. would I looking to get rid of it? >> Well, they said because it was. it wasn't safe, coach. Not safe. >> But now there's no problem. Everything's. okay. >> Yeah, well, just because guys started. running it safer. >> IT'S GOT TO BE. YOU'RE A FUNNY DUDE, MAN. OH, GOODNESS. >> COACH, were you were you were you the. inventor of the tush push? I think.

Sirianni, coach Sirianni always said you. were the inventor of it. Is it Is that. the truth? >> The tush push is quarterback sneak. First of all, let me just say this, okay? Let me just say this first of all, okay? >> Get it off your chest. >> Trav, tell me if I'm off if I'm out of. bounds here. So, tush push. brotherly Why do we have have names for. it? Like, why do we got to It's kind of. It's making fun of the play actually. kind of. >> I hear you on that. Yeah, I always. thought it kind of made it sound silly. >> Is there a lot of little details that go.

into this play? >> Oh, yeah, very much so. >> Okay, well, that those words kind of. make it sound like it's some kind of. funny like I don't know. I take I. Every time I hear it, I'm like. Call it organized mass. That's what it. is. You call something what it is. I hate when we have to have. >> Give it a little bit more respect in the. name. Yeah, I hear you. >> Yeah, like like it's not a it's not a. joke. It's not a uh. There's so many little things that go.

into this play. And by the way, this is. the one play you cannot practice full. speed. There's no way. This play is on-the-job. training. And so, when you have the. players after you detail the angles, you. got to have personnel, the right. personnel. Quarterback's got to be strong. It's. about organized mass. It's about setting. the apex of the wedge, but it's about. angles. And there's a lot of other things that. are involved. Can't get into it. It'd. just be a whole dissertation.

>> Secret sauce. >> Can't get Can't get rid of. >> Yeah, it's it's grandma's secret. Yeah, grandma's secret sauce. So, it's like. that those meatballs. Can't be giving. away the red red sauce. Come on now. Yeah, the meatballs. Vic's always. talking about his meatballs. But anyway, yeah. So, there's there's. secret sauce to this and that's that's. that. And I don't think when you take If. you take a player out of there that's. been doing it for a while, and now it's. not organized mass, it's just mass,

then then then then you got a problem. You're not making it. >> All right, well, we're going to we're. going to change gears here. We're going. to get to some got to ask. A lot of this. is just geared around your career or. being an offensive line coach. So, this. first one, what is the weirdest habit or. personality trait an offensive lineman. seem to have where you're like, yeah, this guy's born to have his hand in the. dirt? >> A habit. Uh. >> Could be like a a mentality? Like. >> The first thing that came to my mind,

and this is going to sound weird and. maybe delete this from your program. I. don't care. The way The way a guy walks. Just the way a guy walks. Just the way a. guy walks. Okay? A real guy. >> Like a real real guy? >> Sometimes, yeah. Just the way a guy. walks, I'd be like, oh, shoot. Like, I've seen that walk before. I've seen the way that Yeah. Yeah, you. I've I've seen that gait. >> Is it Is it a Is it a Is it a sassy. walk? Is it a confidence? Is it a.

>> gut out? The guts out? Like, what what's. the walk look like? Organized. It's just. >> It's just the way it looks. >> It's just the way it looks. >> Who's the hardest defender that you've. ever had to scheme for? >> So, when we were in college in uh 1997, I think it was or 96. >> It was a good year. >> Dwight Freeney. was was a freshman in college. >> Ooh. >> Bloomfield High School, you know, he was.

a great baseball player. I don't even. know if he played football for what, 1. year in high school, but he he comes and. he lines up as the edge player. And we. had a left tackle uh Mark Bannon, which. was a great player. And Mark's, you. know, like, "Oh, you know, he was a road. he was a road scholar, had all these. accolades." And this young freshman is. coming around the edge. like with his hand on the ground and he. couldn't. he couldn't block him. I mean, he could not block him. And he looked and he looked at me. He's like, "Coach, he's got his hands.

up." He's like, "I don't know what TO. DO. LIKE, I'M LOSING CONFIDENCE.". SO, I swear to I swear to you, I said. "Close YOUR EYES AND. I'M NOT JOKING. I SWEAR TO GOD. >> NO WAY. >> three times. Yes. Close your eyes and. kick three times. I said, "After the third kick, open your. eyes.". And he's like, "What?" And I said, "JUST. FREAKING DO IT.".

HE COMES BACK AND HE GOES, "IT WORKS.". HE GOES, "Why did you tell me that?" I. said, "Cuz. because you were what you were reading. the rush and you weren't kicking fast. enough. and you didn't have enough separation. off the line and you kept turning right. off the snap cuz you felt like you would. beat and so you were giving up a short. edge." And I I I didn't I got just. thought about that. Like, so so that's a. true story, honest to God, and it helped. >> So, you basically, coach, you basically. you sandlotted him. You Benny the Jet.

told him like Smalls, just go out to. outfield. I'm going to put that ball up. right there. You just close your eyes and I'll do the. rest. >> He really said that. I I I I could. I had to have I had to have What am I. going to say? I don't know. But I mean. it makes complete sense cuz. instantaneously I thought to myself, what is the initial problem he's having? And it was that he was he was turning. Uh. cuz he felt so much edge quickness. And. I said, how can I help him not So I.

thought to myself, just tell him to. close his eyes. So he did. It worked. out. Love the coach. >> There you go. Well, let me ask you this. What are you going to miss more? You won. two Super Bowls. You're in Philadelphia. for 13 years. What are you going to miss. most about being the coach of the. Philadelphia Eagles? What do you Is. there anything you want to say to. Philadelphia? How did What did you think. of your time in Philadelphia? >> I love. like. not only myself, my family. We we are we. we absolutely are in love with. Philadelphia. We love living here. We.

We're going to live anywhere else in. forever. And Allison would always say to. me, I don't care where you go. Where I. ain't. You go I ain't I ain't going. anywhere. Like. this is this is our home. The fans uh. You know, I grew up in Staten Island and. I grew up in New York City and you know, people are a little bit you know, they're a little abrasive. They they. speak their mind and they say what's. what's and there's a lot of similarity. and there's a lot of carryover, but the.

people in Philly, man, you could say. what you want, but if you are willing. to play your ass off, to coach your put everything you got on. the line and coach your butt off, and. they know. You can't trick people in. Philly. You could they just watch the. game cuz they all go Everybody goes to. the game and everybody watches the game. So they know they're not just You're not. conning anybody in Philadelphia. They. know when it's synchronized, they know. who's playing hard, who's not playing. hard, who's not And so you don't do.

that? Hold your ass, man. >> Well, I'll tell I'll tell you what, Style, if you're if you're ever going to. miss uh getting yelled at by Philly fans. or getting hearing hearing them. down there at the link, I'm sure you. could just go right back to the link, baby, and and and hear that loud and. proud. >> there. >> Yeah, they're still there. That that. that'll never leave. >> never going. It don't matter what day it. is, they're going to be there. >> And you're an absolute legend in the. city, so I'm sure every time you go back. to the link, man, they'll be cheering.

loud and proud for you, too. >> Well, coach, uh. I'm so incredibly grateful for what. you've done for me and my career, my. teammates' career, the career you had in. Philadelphia, and you've had your entire. coaching journey. Can't wait to see what. you do next. >> Can't wait. >> and also can't wait to fix my golf swing. over at your house, get some red light. therapy in, and start to work. >> Jason, you're a little pale right now. I. need you glowing. I need you glowing, Jason. >> right. I am pale. Gosh, dang, look at. that skin. You know, I should have said this to to.

start the whole thing, but I I. was You know, when you do something like. this, there's no play There's no plan. It is not This is This is just like, "Hey, man, let's let's roll." This is. how Travis likes it, right? >> Come on now. Come on now. >> Yeah, you love it like that. So, but I. But there's something There's something. that we talked about the fans, but but. really uh from the organization uh from. the top all the way down to the bottom, and I mean from Mr. Lurie, Howie, Nick, Doug, uh Chip, all the guys that uh you.

know, hired me, and uh to the people I'm. talking like You realize this? Every. morning at 6:00 between 6:00 and 7:00, I. would get a cup of coffee, and Miss. Keisha in the cafeteria and I would have. a little conversation. Every. >> to Miss Keisha. >> Miss Keisha. Every single morning. And maybe Charles would be there, too, if we're lucky, and T-Roy might try to. nose nose in on the thing, too, but. every single morning, I think that might. be what I miss the most. I mean so that.

I have so many close people in that. building that that aren't even involved. in the football like they are involved. in the football cuz they're taking care. of us, but the training athletic. training department to the video. department, you know, I'm going to miss. a lot of those people. Uh yeah, a lot. I. love you coach. >> Well, I'm sure they're going to miss you too, big guy. >> You will be missed, no doubt. You were. one of one in that building. The energy. and passion that you brought, you can. hear it here when you're talking how. much you love talking ball, how much the. details matter. You know, we'll have to.

get you we'll have to get you back doing. some tape or something like that if you. be open to it. We're going to We're. going to do some tape breakdowns. I love. a little Justin Allen tape breakdown. >> Let's go. >> we that dive deep, man. >> It's got to be my tape so I can get. coached up by the big guy one time. >> Oh yeah, just you said you wanted to. coach receivers. You always said you. wanted to coach receivers. You're not going to believe this, dude. Playbook over there. It's a wide. receivers playbook from Syracuse when. they told me I was going to go coach. receivers. >> No way. >> Coach, I love you.

>> Yeah, we love you. >> you guys. I love you guys, man. >> Happy for you, man. >> And your mom your mom and your dad your. mom's unbelievable. How how does she. build how does she create these two. people like this that have so much. success at this level. and um. unbelievable. Unbelievable story. >> We're we're lucky, man. >> What you doing right now? I'm like, how. do these two guys do it? Like how do. THEY PULL THESE OFF? LIKE THESE GUYS. >> THESE GUYS HAVE NO IDEA, to be honest. with you. >> No matter what they do.

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have Coach Stout back. 13 years with the. Philadelphia Eagles, great number, by. the way. You and I both did the same. number of years with the Eagles. I. didn't know that. Yeah, it's a good. number. Then we got my man Brent Celek, only did 11 seasons. >> Yeah, it's not as good as you guys. >> Ended on a Super Bowl though, high. Legendary tight end. And then we got. Jordan Mailata, still currently playing. Philadelphia Eagle. I probably I think. your biggest like success story, right? I mean, you've had a lot of them, but to. take a guy that had never played the. game before and teach him how to play. football.

>> Yeah, there was there's a lot of of. stories that. and they're all fun. It was the. challenge that you have as the coach is. to. what do I got to do to help this player. be the best? >> Yes. >> And that's kind of what we did with. Jordan. I do want to start off with just. some word associations. So, I'm going to. say a word, adjective, and you tell me. what player embodies this the most. >> Oh boy. >> Okay. You've seen a lot of players come. through. Who's the toughest player you've ever. coached? >> This is like asking me. >> It doesn't It's not saying nobody else. isn't tough, but who's the guy that like.

stands out to your mind? First player. that stands out to you when you say your. toughest. >> There's a lot. LeSean McCoy. >> Mhm. Yeah. I think that's a great. answer. >> That's a tough guy, man. That That That. guy. nobody knows what he goes through each. week. >> Yep. >> to get on the field, but I I I I see the. tears in his eyes at times uh That. That's a tough dude, no doubt. >> All right. Smartest. >> You. >> Don't say it. >> Yeah. >> There's no question. Everybody knows. that. >> 100%. >> we can move on. >> Meanest. >> What? Time out.

I mean, we wanted to film cuz cuz there. there might be one or two other guys. that are at the same level. >> They're at the same level. I don't want. to Isaac Seumalo. >> To me, Isaac is actually the smartest. player I ever played with. >> Between him and Wiz, those two guys. >> Yeah. >> were very intelligent. >> High high level. >> He had great vision. He could see. everything. He played six positions in. one game, the Baltimore game. Including tight end. >> It's insane. He played every position. along the line in that game as as well.

as the tight end. >> I'm glad you brought him up. All right. Meanest. Doesn't have to be a guy with the. Eagles, either. Like, if you got. somebody from. college. Yeah. Meanest. >> I coached a long time now. >> The game used to be meaner, too. In the. '80s, there was. >> No, there was some things would be. >> Jason Peters. I saw some things happen. on the field a couple times. Like, when. you get to the. there's a certain. point where he if he snaps. you don't want to You don't want to go.

there. There was some things that. That's a bad man. >> I'll never forget the first one-on-one I. ever saw him do. This is before you got This is my rookie. year. Trent Cole is at the end, who was. a great player, and Trent beat him on an. inside move. And he was pissed. Maz he said, "Run it. back. Oh, hell no, run it back." They. line up again. I don't know why Trent tried to go. inside again. JP took his palm and hit. him so hard in the face mask that he. landed on his head. Like did a backflip.

basically. And I remember seeing that. I'm like, "Dude, I don't know if I can. play in the NFL." Like I was like, "If. these WERE THE GUYS THAT ARE PLAYING, LIKE I DON'T KNOW IF I got what it. takes." I mean, that guy. >> the size, the quickness, and the. explosive power all wrapped up in one. You you don't come across that within. 100 I mean, 100 years you're not going. to see someone like that. That was. >> And great teammate. >> Yes. Great person. >> Unbelievable. Great person. >> Most improved player you ever coached? >> I don't know how you could say. that's ridiculous. >> remember the first day you walked in.

and like. I mean, you didn't know anything about. football. I I I was drafted with Danny Watkins who. also was a guy that played football. late, was very green with the game, didn't know what certain techniques were. called, things that I was. kind of crazy going to the NFL that a. guy didn't know that stuff. But you I. mean, you didn't know a pass set. You. didn't know where the quarterback was. You didn't know anything was called. Truly like knew nothing about the game. And now you're an All-Pro. >> Wow. >> I mean, that's insane. It helps that. you're 365 and run a 4.7 and are a freak.

of nature, for sure. >> 4.7's generous. >> You don't think you run a 4.7? >> Uh I don't know. Probably probably sub. five. >> Sub five? >> Definitely not a 4.7. >> No. If your toes weren't wet. >> would you run a 4.7? >> I think I would. I need that extra support, little. cushion. >> Just that little boost. >> It's got to be him, right? >> I know this. Here's what I know. I I I I. think he's being I uh. >> Modest. >> Yeah, I think he's being modest. I think. he's in a 4.7, 4.8. Like he'll he would. come out on the field early and he has. this routine that he would do, but then. he would. then he would just take off and open up.

and run. And I'm and like I I'll never. forget the workout that that we did at. IMG. I couldn't believe how the size of. the of the player and the quickness and. all the the square drills, the you know, the shuffle, the carioca. We we were. doing all kinds of stuff and I was like, "Oh my goodness. I've never seen. anything like this in my life.". >> Yeah. >> The size of the player, the quickness, the foot quickness, that's the wow. factor. Now, you got to assess the.

mental part of it. How long's it going. to take? >> Yeah. >> And is it worth it? >> Yeah. >> And I was. adamant about it. It's worth it. And it. took a very long time. They were almost. out of time. >> What was that like for you, that whole. process? >> Um I couldn't believe he they they. drafted me. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, and uh the whole time I was here, I was just trying to. figure it all out. I didn't know what I. was going to be or what I was going to. surmount to. >> I was just kind of at first going. through the motions. Like Stout said, these conversations when he'd come and. say, "You're not trying hard enough." I.

got offended. >> Yeah. >> I'd be like, "Well, I'm trying my ass. off." And then. you know, he'd make an example of what. effort really looks like. And what are. you? >> Okay. >> It was the way you came off the field. gasping for air after long long plays. And everything I tried to do was just. like again, trying to prove myself to. this guy. Especially that 2020 year. You. know, I got to win that uh I was close. to getting getting sent home. And so. pulled my socks up. >> Oh, it's Nate. >> What's Nate? >> Herbie.

>> Really? >> I would. >> Herbie? >> You know, he was a little loyal locker. room that man was. >> Oh, yeah. >> Herbie. >> uh he heard some whisperings and uh. relayed it back to me. And I was like, "I got to pull my socks. >> on. Hold on. Hold on. We had dinner last. night. Our two wives. We had a nice. time. And he actually reenacted the. whole story. >> Ha ha ha. >> I want you to tell us right now and use. the voice and everything. >> he crazy. >> Do it. Tell it. You told it You told me this. last night. I didn't know anything about. this. Go ahead. >> He said, "Hey, bro.".

He said, "Listen.". >> It's a great job with your. impersonation. >> He said, "Don't kill me.". >> No, we love you. Go ahead. His tongue's. too big for his mouth. >> He said, "Man, he said, 'Jordy, you got. to get in your bag, bro.' He said, 'They. going to ship you home.'" So, you won't. you won't go home? >> Yeah. >> They going to ship your ass home. He said, "You got you you got to pull. your socks up and get get in your bag.". >> This is a very good Nate Herbig. impression. >> And then, I got in my bag. I got in my bag. He's like He's like, "They going to send you home, man." He's. like, "Come on.". I know. >> He was my sleeper on this list.

>> Um who's the I guess the last one is. leader. >> Who? You? >> I I don't know. He's not answering. >> Yeah. You were the leader. You you you. >> We'll skip it. >> No, why? You can't take the. >> I don't like doing this. All right, who's cage match? >> Well, I knew who set the question up. That's who That's who That's who like. >> I just got a bunch of votes in here. >> Every player that was ever in that room, they would answer the they would answer. the question the same way. >> Yeah. >> I believe Who's winning a cage match? >> I'll vote.

>> Call it a tie. I'm going to say it's a bust. >> But I mean, Celek was a it was a great. leader. But he wasn't in the wasn't in. the room. >> Yeah. >> But you did a lot of things. in front of the team and the offensive. unit and. and. yeah. >> I think one of the coolest things you. did in 2017 was the start of the. tradition. you and Stout really started it, which. was talking in front of the team the day. before the game. >> Yeah. >> The night before. Like. I still remember cuz we for some reason. we felt like in 2017. in camp.

I remember us all looking at each other. and being like, "Yo, we got a. really good squad here.". >> Yeah. >> Like LeGarrette, like all the pieces we. added, Alshon, like the defense with. Fletch and like we did It felt like all. the pieces was this the best amount of. talent we had had collectively. And. I remember I don't know which one of you. guys thought of it first or how that. whole but you came up and talked the day. before the first game of the year. >> Yeah. >> And basically I don't want to You. basically said guys I went to the.

NFC Championship game my first year in. the league. >> yeah. >> Second year in the league. We lost the. game and I figured out you know what, we'll be back next year. And it's been. nine seasons and I still haven't been. back. Don't waste this opportunity. We. got a really good squad and I think that. really started the trajectory that year. of like demanding excellence and guys. feeling like we had a swagger and. confidence. Where did you come up with. that or where did you both of you. >> it actually happened really in the.

off-season cuz after my 10th season. Howie calls me into the office and he's. like, "Hey, we got to talk." And so I. meet him in the office and he's like, "Hey man, um I know you're owed this, but you know, we want to cut it." And so. I literally I had an agent, but I. negotiated my deal with Howie. face-to-face. >> Oh, wow. >> And. >> Bold strategy. He's a good negotiator. >> He's a good negotiator. Um. but after after that moment I realized.

you know, I've been around this game for. a long time. They start taking your. money away and then the next thing is. you're out the door. >> Right, yeah. >> And so that off-season I kind of my. mindset switched like this is it. This. is all I've got is this year. >> Yeah. >> And I know that. um the Saturday nights before the game. Stout used to always talk. And he used. to always say something. I used to love. hearing him talk. But. at that moment that I had with Howie, I. was like, you know, I got to be more.

vocal. I'm going to do things that you. know, are you know, help uplift my. teammates a little bit more and I. thought it was a a great thing for me to. just show the guys this is what happened. to me. >> Mhm. >> This is where I'm at today and this year. is really all we got. >> Right. >> And uh what I thought was really cool. about it though is that Stout kept it. going. >> Right. >> You know, the fact that he allowed. >> done. >> Yeah, and the fact that I didn't even.

know Isaac knew how to speak. And then. Isaac gets up there. >> Shout out to Shout out to Isaac, yeah. >> And and Isaac pulls you know, he he. basically puts his heart on the table. and like this is who I am. It brought me. closer to him. I had no relationship. with him. >> I agree. >> And to be able to hear my teammate you, Kelce, you got up there and got. emotional. >> Mhm. >> Like to me those those really changed. um. I feel like our relationships became. stronger because we started learning. things about each other that we never.

knew. >> Agreed. >> I thought it was awesome that you did. it. >> And it was the you could hear a pin. drop. You look around the room. Very a. lot of emotional. There was a lot of. emotional uh. guys that would get up and speak. Darren. Sproles did a great like unbelievable. job. I mean there was. a lot of uh. guys would take that very serious and. they'd get up there and speak from their. heart. And I think everybody really looked. forward to it. All right, let's talk So. you're college coach for the majority of. your career. You come from winning two.

national championships at Alabama with. Nick Saban, Chip Kelly. Completely. different offense. What were your first. impressions coming to Philadelphia and. trying to run a brand new offense like. that? >> Well. I've run about every. run play and play action and protection. that you I've been doing it. I was in. college for 30 years. >> Yeah. >> We did a lot of Alabama. >> Okay. >> A lot. And. that was a really a pro. organization to be honest with you. >> Yeah.

>> And then we come in here and we're in. the Temple offense with coach with Chip. Kelly. I was so excited to learn something new. That was basically. I mean we dabbled a little bit with a. little fastball play here and there. >> Right. >> Nothing like that. >> Yeah. >> Snap the ball within 25 seconds. Let's. go. >> I still remember that first Washington. game. It was like they could not stop. us. It was. >> you coming. >> It was insane. We thought We all thought. we were going to win the Super Bowl. Like there was a. Did we not? Like they couldn't stop it. >> Your enthusiasm and your excitement.

coming off You were couldn't breathe. anyway. You're coming off the field. You're like, "Stout, they're. they're begging us to slow down. Throwing up on the field. We got them right where we want them.". >> Yeah. I think we ran 50 plays in the. first half. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's nuts. >> Oh, dude. >> It was It was the first kind of of its. kind in the NFL. It was a I Washington. had no idea what to do. And like that. was the first We didn't have tape out. there. Teams did catch on eventually, but to start, it was absolutely. outrageous. Well, so Brett, you had been.

in the league for how many years at that. point? >> Six. >> Six years. >> Yeah. Yeah. Juan Castillo had been offensive line. coach here. >> Yep. >> What were your first impression. impressions with Stout? >> Stout, um. I would say initially. he was so passionate when he's. installing the run game. You know, he's. pounding the table. He's loud. I love. that about him. >> Yeah. >> Uh the other thing that you could tell. right away is he cared. And I would say. the third thing is.

you could question things with Stout and. he would listen. >> Right. >> Sometimes he would tell you, "No, you. don't know what the hell you're talking. about." But he would listen. So, you. know, those three things, he's. passionate guy. Um. he really cares about his players. I. think that's probably the most important. thing. And I think that's why Stout and. I connect so well is because I just see. he does everything for his players. >> Right. >> And he wants them to have everything. that they could possibly have to succeed. in that game. And if he feels he's not.

giving that, he feels like he's failing. >> Yes. Too well said. I don't think I. could say it any better. All you want in. a coach is somebody that genuinely wants. you to be the best version of yourself. >> Exactly. >> And Stout did that for a very long time. >> If a player feels like a coach has any. like ulterior motive or like there's. like a selfish intrinsic desire out of. it, you just don't enjoy it as much or. you like it, this dude. >> Yeah. >> All right. All these great players, one of the. things you were phenomenal at is. gauging players before they became.

great. Jordan Mailata, Lane Johnson. Drafting players for the Philadelphia. When you go to a combine or you're. looking at a player, what is the number. one most important thing I already know. the answer. What's the most important. thing that you're looking for to. determine whether he's going to be a. good offensive lineman? >> Well, all these questions there's more. than one, but you got to have the size. >> All right. I did not know. >> hey, hey, hey, now listen to me. So, I. start I have a flow chart. >> Yeah, you got critical factor. >> Yeah, and I follow them. First of all, where are you with the size? Are you. average? Are you preferred? Are you.

ideal? Okay? Where do you fall? Okay? Ideal. >> Yeah. >> Okay? So, now the most important. critical factor would be foot and body. quickness. >> Yeah. I thought for sure you were going. to say ankle flexion. Why is ankle. flexion so important? >> So, this is the best way to say it. If. you If I'm the wide receiver and you're. the defensive back and you're in a. stance and I'm running off the ball and. you're in a back pedal and you're trying. to cover me, you're back pedaling and. then I. break to the out cut and the quarterback.

shows his shows his shoulders and he's. going to throw the ball. As you're back. pedaling, if you're able to plant and if. you're able to plant and break, I. guarantee you you have lower body. flexibility. If you went plant. >> plant. >> plant break, you probably. have average lower body. Now, this is. accurate. This holds up across the. board. This isn't just for offensive. lineman, this was for all positions. And.

so, lower body flexibility is relative. to explosive power. >> Yeah. >> Change of direction. But you're going to. find some guys. that can flat-out run fast. >> Yeah. >> That don't have great lower body. flexibility. >> Interesting. So, it's more change of. direction and agility. >> and explosive power. >> Got it. Okay. >> Once I decide that that's a very. important factor, then I'm all in. >> Yeah. >> I'm all in, but I have to see it in my. brain, I have to feel it. I don't just.

do like these low hands things, nobody. does. I have to know for a fact. that that works. >> Yeah. >> Then I'm all in. >> Then you're in. The saying I think you. used the most though throughout your. whole career was hungry dogs run faster. >> Yeah. >> Where did that come from? >> So, when I was a young when I was a. young uh. uh high school player. and um. I belonged at a YMCA, that's all we. could kind of afford was the YMCA. So, I. would go to the YMCA with a couple of my. teammates. We didn't have good. facilities at my high school. So, we.

would go to the YMCA and we would we. would lift. And there was a a guy in. there who was huge, strong, I mean real. strong. His name was Deno Mangiero, played for the Kansas City Chiefs. He. actually is the player that broke Dan. Pastorini's leg way back in the day. He's actually the player that won the. strongest man in the NFL arm wrestle. Deno played nose tackle. for Rutgers, for Curtis High School, Rutgers. These guys all they did was. work out at the YMCA. I mean, they.

worked out. So, Deno was like, "Come on, well Dennis Riley, come on, you're. coming with me." And we would go run. through Clove Lakes Park through the. trees over the tree and we would be like. I'd be dying. These guys would be. jumping over trees like You remember how. you said to me, "I didn't know what. toughness was until my strength coach at. Cincinnati taught me." That was my. moment. >> Got it. >> And that was my moment and these guys. would keep saying to me, "Hungry dogs. run faster. You don't stop. You keep. pushing. You keep going." And what. you're going to do is you're going to. build so much confidence in yourself,

you're going to feel like nobody can. beat you. And I embraced that. >> Yeah. >> I embraced it right through college, and. I just was like that was me. That was. the epitome of I'm going to work harder. than you, not only. as a player, but even as a coach as I. took it further, and I wanted to instill. that in all the players. And we did that. in our individual drills, and it. basically became. who I who I am or who I was, how I went. about coaching, how I went about.

explaining things to the players. And. so, that that came from Dino. >> All right. 2017 season, we go on and win the Super. Bowl first time in Eagles history. At. what point in that season did you. realize that the team was special? Is. there a moment or is there a play or is. there. >> I I I just I Look, you're asking me a. question, and I'm going to I'm going to. answer the question. You might not like. the answer. I don't I don't care. Okay? Frank Reich was the offensive. coordinator, and he. he he you know, he would be like,

"Stout, you got juice today." Like he. was he would kind of needle me a little. bit about the run installation meeting, which you talked about. I would get up. in front of the offense, and I would do the run game. installation. And really before I would. put any play in, I would present to. everybody, and I would say, you know, "This is the uh mission statement on. this play. Okay? We're going to displace. the interior two tackles. And if we don't do that, this play is. not going to work.". >> Right. >> Or we're running a mid zone play, and.

Jordan, if you don't displace that D end, we. can't run this play. And so, everybody. knew going in. where that important very, very. important block was. And then I would. say, "We're going to come in here, Nelson Agholor, on Monday or Tuesday, and we're going to see if you block the. safety on Wham, cuz if you do, you. deserve all the credit. For all those. Whams that we ran at the Chicago and the. and the Seattle, you're the one that. deserves the credit, not Kelsey getting.

at the second level, but you do it. because you block the force player, and. the force player is the most important. block. And I would do that through all. the run concepts, and everybody knew. exactly what was what, but I want to. tell you what, when I when I would do. that, I would occasionally. as I'm into my doing my thing, I would. see Smitty, I would see Alshon Jeffery, I'd see Nelson Agholor, I'd see those. I'd see Mac back tackles. And those guys. would be like this. I didn't expect that. >> Yeah. >> They were into it. I didn't think that.

that that that the receiver would be. looking at me like that. I I expect the. offensive lineman or the tight end to be. like, all right, I understand I use the. phrase, you guys know it, you've heard. it, it's execution fuels emotion. >> Yeah. >> And I don't know how to say it any. better than that. Kevin Kelly and I who. worked way back in 1984. together, we would talk about he would. talk about this with me. There's no better way to describe the. excitement, the jubilation of a great. play or a great series when you're.

execution fuels emotion. If you're not. executing, you don't you're not having. fun, you're not you're not feeling it, you're not bumping into each other, you're not hugging each other, you're. not. So, that phrase became something I would. use quite often. because it says it all. >> What about you? Was there a point in. that year that. >> I think every year you feel like we have. a really good team. >> Yes. >> I think after I believe it was the. second. >> go to a season being like, hey, we're. not going to win the Super Bowl, we're. going to suck this year. Like.

>> The real moment for me was when we were. in LA and Carson got hurt. And Nick. comes in the game. >> Yeah. >> And the feeling on the sideline with. some of the guys that I was around, it. was just like, damn, not us again. You. know, Carson at that moment was. >> Was that MVP? >> MVP. >> Would have been. >> And then Nick comes in and Nick starts. slinging it, and I'll just never forget. the feeling in the locker room after. that game. And Malcolm gave his speech and it was. just like next man up mentality.

>> I agree. That was It was a crazy moment. in that season. >> Throughout the entire season it was that. way. But that was the biggest moment and. um and how Nick responded to all that I. thought was unbelievable. >> Nick handled it unbelievably. It ended. up working out to our favor I think a. little bit because Nick came in and was. different than Carson. >> Yeah. >> And he liked different plays and we'd. switch it up at the perfect time in the. season. But you're the nail that I had. to stout with saying. that. it was a great blend of like.

personalities and people. And like Carson was great, but like. LeGarrette Blount was like an unreal. teammate and personality to have in. there. Jay Ajayi added him halfway. through the season was fantastic. A. young Isaac and like some of the players. we had in the depths that were ready to. play. Corey Clement. Corey Clement. Those three running backs. It was. awesome. >> We had fun. We had a lot of fun. >> was after Darren Sproles got hurt. >> Yeah. Darren Sproles and JP got hurt. >> We lost probably. two of our We lost our three best. players. Probably, right? Our best.

offensive lineman was Jason Peters. before he got hurt. Our best running. back was probably Sproles and we lost. our starting quarterback. Still won on. >> But I do think that uh what you just. said about Nick. cuz once Carson got hurt I felt the same. I felt like everybody was like, well, there it goes. >> Yeah. >> We were having such a great season. >> feel that way until after the game was I. was still trying to block Aaron Donald. >> Yeah. >> But after the game I felt that way. >> But but but after the game was finished. I think that that was that that thought.

process was kind of removed. I felt I I. felt I thought it was like, okay. Went back. >> Yeah. >> Do you remember shaking me like this. like after the Super Bowl? >> It wasn't after the Super Bowl. It was. in third fourth quarter. You were shaking me and I I like I had. my pad in my hand and you would let and. you were going, "Next play and out OF. HIS MIND!". I WAS LIKE, "OKAY, BRO. WE GOT TO GO. KILL WE GOT TO KEEP GOING." I I want. that it was right close to when uh we. kicked the field goal Elliott kicked the.

field goal. That field goal was huge. >> Yeah, the big plays are obviously the. Philly special, but fourth down. conversions with Ertz. There was so. many. All right, let's fast forward to. the see year that we weren't there. >> Yeah. >> What was special about that year? When. did you know that that season. that that team was a special one? Go ahead. >> I mean, I to me. I didn't even it didn't feel like. there was like a moment. >> Sure. >> It just was like each game was its own. every week. If there was a game I could. pick, probably be that LA Rams game in. Arizona.

>> Keep picking on the Rams. >> Yeah, all right. It is what it is, man. It is what it is, man. That was that. really good game. That was the that was the one game where. I thought like Sunday night we played. lights out and it was a. just complete domination up front in the. run game. It was it felt like a very. complete game for us. >> Yeah. >> Defense was playing lights out, and I. think that was probably the moment for. me at least where I like, "Hey, man. We. we have something special." Very late in. the season, but. how we were playing or how I was playing. that season was just kind of taking each.

game. >> Yeah. >> week to week, and. I mean, everyone wants to talk about the. bye week. After the bye week, week five, Browns come out, home game. That's when we you know, started we. started our little win streak. >> How was that the game? >> And you know, it was we just won. So, you know, that was the thing. ignition, I guess the igniter for the. the way we we kind of went on, but. I'm going to say, what about you? >> Well, when uh. when Howie uh. you know, was able to get Saquon.

>> Yeah. >> to come here, I felt like uh and wa-. watching him. uh th- these guys we talked about some. of these play other players here. earlier, but th- those guys don't come. around very often and and watching some. of the things that that he was able to. do and I just felt like with the. offensive line that we have. combined with him and all and really the. whole running back group that uh. we would have some great things that. would happen and all he needed was if we.

could block them up front and create the. voids needed uh any given play at any. given time could go the distance. >> Yeah. >> He had that break away speed. He had the. ability to see stuff uh whether it be. front side or back side and um there was. so many plays during the course of the. season that were uh big you know that. were chunk runs. >> Mhm. >> Uh even on third down we were running. the ball against these exotic defensive. fronts and putting the fear of God in.

people like you want to play this front? Go ahead. And so uh. yeah I just I just think that was a huge. part of. of the And we were so the the players. were so confident much like the. quarterback sneak play the confidence. level that you guys had running that. play. >> Mhm. >> uh like two years ago was like there's. no way this is stop organized mass. And. by the way all these combination blocks. that you talked about and these. techniques that are individual that is. organized mass but it's two.

>> You're right. >> It's all organized mass. It's all. mentality of organized mass. The. teaching is all the same and so you just. and the confidence level. you know of the players. I felt that way with the run game with. with him with Saquon. Uh and the players did such a great job. of executing all these combination. blocks getting to the second level. finishing and we wrote it. We we we we. we stayed with it all year. Right. >> Just one of those things I guess the. momentum at the right time. We peaked at. the right time and we just rode that. momentum.

>> Yeah and the talent. while everything else is coming. together. >> I think something has to be said about. when you have a running back that is. that good. I just feel like the O-line, the tight. ends, everybody just blocks that much. harder. Like when we had LeGarrette in. 2017. >> Yeah. >> You know, well really all our running. backs in 2017. But like those guys that. just bring it. you don't want your guy to make the. tackle. >> Yeah, when they're going. balls to the wall, all out, running.

hard, it makes you block harder. And. it's the same thing as Stout. It's. execution fuels emotion. >> So like the more success you're having. with something, the more you're excited. to do it. >> Yeah, Saquon was basically out of bounds. the whole year. Just talking about plays that just. whatever happened on that drive, he was. just like, "Let's fix it up. What. happened here?" He talked to me. And he. cleared up his vision, then we go out. there and. boom. >> He would do a fly by and he would say, uh. >> boom. >> "That one guy, you get that one guy, I'm. gone.". >> Gone. >> "The next time we get that one guy." So. then you'd see him finishing on the back.

side. I could pull out some clips. I. know exactly what plays, what games on. the back side where he's just straining. and straining. Whereas when he was. young, he didn't know how to do that. He. didn't even know how to have a clue how. to strain, how to finish. But that pops the run for the touchdown. Kansas City game. I mean, I can go. the the LA game. I can go through the. list of him on the back side where he's. straining and finishing. And Saquon. would do a fly by and say, "Just get. that one guy.". >> You got an endless amount of sayings. You got hungry dogs and faster. No man. is an island. A straw strength from.

others. Execution fuels emotion. There's. some funnier ones out there. >> You said I don't know that guy from. Adam's house cat before. >> Yeah, that's it. >> don't know what that means or where it. came from. >> it was an American saying, so I said it. to Nickie, and Nickie goes, "I don't. That's not a thing.". I was like, "WHAT DO YOU MEAN?". I WAS LIKE, "WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S NOT A. THING?" AND LIKE Stout says it all the. time. I was like, "That must be a. Stout-ism because I I've never heard of. that." So who is Adam's house cat? >> Coach Shurmur would say that. >> He doesn't know. >> Adam's house cat was somebody's cat.

>> What about uh uh. pounding salt up a fat lady's ass? >> That's just a visionary of. >> Yeah, a visionary aid. >> Tough running play. >> What do you call a wide-open gaping. hole? What's that called? >> Oh my god. >> That's Al Barber. That's Al. >> That's Al Barber. We're playing with Al. here. >> I'll defer that to Al cuz he owns cows. >> There you go. Listen, we're get we're. we're kind of being funny here though. >> Yeah. >> But one of the things I think made you. an outstanding coach was it wasn't just.

a lecture at the top of the meeting. room. There was you would say these things. or pick your voice up in a way to. institute you used to call it a hook. Which was if you wanted a player to. remember something, you'd say, "This is. the hook. This is You would say these. phrases or these little things. technique-wise to get the player to. remember it." So that when they were out.

on the field, there was they would have. they would snap and they would know. exactly what we talked about in the. meeting. >> True. And also, if you remember. and I don't know. I don't know why. I think. sometimes I would even go drift off into. a life lesson. >> Yeah. >> And I would raise my voice and I'd be. like, "Look, you're not doing this forever. >> Mhm. >> This situation is going to come later on. in life. Do the right thing. Save yourself a lot.

of grief. >> Yeah. >> or whatever or whatever the whatever. that situation was. We spent so much. time together, all of us. And you get to know each other so well. You get to know your girlfriends. You. get to know your wives. Our wi- my wife. Shout out to Allison. You just get the. the feeling of caring about someone so. much that if you could do something. you'll just a little bit to maybe help a. guy later on. And I would do that occasionally in in. our in our meetings. >> You just said that there's a.

Don't make the mistake because you're. not I immediately I thought of what's. the what's the one? 80% of the time the. easy way is the wrong way. >> Yeah. >> You want to take the easy route and it's. great in the moment but usually it ends. up backfiring on you in the long run. >> Yeah. >> What would be one thing that you would. want people to know about Stout and like. how he is as a coach. It's not like a. misunderstood thing but what do you. think makes Stout a great coach? >> For me, how much of a father figure he. was. >> Yeah, it wasn't just about the coaching. It was everything you just said. It was.

like. caring about you as a person. >> 10 minutes and it's just like that. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It's just like that. >> Yeah. >> I mean everyone thinks that, you know, everyone thinks they know like what kind. of father figure he is but. >> Yeah. >> For me moving here was just I just. turned 21. >> Yeah. >> Big family guy, I left my family. I left home. Left my parents. >> Yeah. >> And uh.

And this is crazy guy. I believe in this kid who never played. football before and is trying to make a. make a name for himself and I can't ever. get over how he was. always consistent. He's always there. I mean he always believed in me and he. was always the last one to believe in. me. >> Mhm. >> And it wasn't the like the lessons on. the field of you know, that's that's his. job. That's his job as a coach but the. lessons he taught me as a man. were always shown on this a father.

figure for me when you know, my family. is so far away and. >> Mhm. >> I mean he knows. Probably. doesn't know but like. I hate. No, I call you papa. You know that. Like. you know I call you papa. Like. >> He's always called me papa. >> cuz. I just. I just needed For me I needed I felt. like I was a young man coming here. I. didn't really know who I was. You know, I really still a young adult. You know, I didn't know what I stood for, what I. was going to stand for, what I believed.

in, and he just for me, he kind of set. me in my ways of hard work beats. everything. But, I thought I knew and he you know, he said it earlier like I thought I knew. what hard work looked like, but I didn't. know anything. I was young, I was very. naive, and. Stoutland has told me so much. about. the one thing. And but, you see two. kills. Everything I try to do was. emulate how you led. And I just carried that on to the next.

to the next group as best I could, the. way I practiced, the way I finished. every snap, the way I played in games. But, it's just the start of from from. coach Stout, and started with you, and I. just I'm just picking and choosing what. I needed to do to become the player that. I became and. I've become, and man, I just I'm a very. lucky to be in this situation where you. know, I've had. a great coach, a great locker room, and. people that have bring me along. You. never needed to do that.

>> That's one of the reasons I think the. Eagles have been so successful is even. throughout change, they've kept pieces. in part. So, like I learned from Brett. and Todd, and those guys learned from. Dawkins and like there's they've been a. transition period with the Eagles where. players have learned from players. Stout, you surp- You were the offensive. line coach for the Philadelphia Eagles. through four different head coaches. How. many. times has that happened in the NFL? Never. Not that I know of. >> Yeah, I I don't know.

>> What Jordan just said is beautiful, and. I'll piggyback on that. I got to feel. the same way, but I also feel like the hungry dogs run. faster is what you've been as a coach. There's been a hunger and a desire to. get like in a genuine caring for your. players. that has allowed all of these guys to. maximize their ability. And I don't. think it's a it's any surprise that a. guy that's never played football that. has all the physical attributes has. turned into one of the best tackles in. the the league. Guys have come from. other places, castaways. Mekhi Becton.

nobody wants him anymore. Comes here, wins a Super Bowl, has a career year. You get the best out of him. You get the. best out of me. You get the best I mean, it's it's endless. And. the technique. absolutely. The the the. the plays, the the guys next to you. but the overwhelming thing is you could. not go into that room without. being ready each and every day. You. weren't going to accept it. So, everybody had to acknowledge that. So, for that we all as former players thank. you. from the bottom of our hearts. You gave.

us everything you had, and as players. that's all you want. I don't know what's. next for you. I mean, I know you're taking the year. off. Whether you coach again, whatever. you do, I just consider it a great. blessing. I think all of us that were. Philadelphia Eagles that were with you. do. So, thanks, coach. Thank you. And I. I love you guys. >> I I really appreciate. doing this. This is uh. brought up some really, really good. memories. I can't tell you guys enough. how. when I think of my time coaching you,

Jason, and and and and you, and and. doing our mate blocks, and doing our and. stuff that we did as a group, the joy. that brings me, and the happiness that. that brings me because you guys believed. in me, you trusted me. All I was able to do uh I think there's. a very important little point here with. all the stuff we've talked about, but if. you find one thing about a player like. you did like I would say to you, Jason, "Could you imagine what you could be. like if you just use your hands right?

If you just had a little bit narrower. base in your stance, and you didn't. overextend and fall step, don't get. crazy on me, just listen to me. If you. could just apply this and try this. this is going to go like this. Get the. backside arm on that cut off block. Don't use. >> got that. >> Don't use. Don't use that two hands. >> That's because I used to freaking loop. outside you and then it's. >> And so or I would say I would show. Jordan if you just kick as twice as and. this is from Jason Peters, right? From.

him right from his Bible. He'd say kick. as kick as fast you can twice and get to. that spot. You just get to that spot all good. things are going to happen. And he'd say. And I would listen to him I'd say that's. all I do. I don't care about anything I. just tell Kelsie to tell me who to. I don't want to be bogged down. I don't. want to get to that spot. Nobody did it. better than him. And and then Lane would. watch and then he would do it. And so to. watch all this stuff go on and happen. was so much it was like. a magic it was like a an artist painting.

a painting. It was like so beautiful and. so much fun and so. for that I thank you guys. from the bottom of my heart. You're the. best though. >> What uh I got to. forgot to ask you. Who who are you going to miss most in. the building? Cuz we're talking about. his players but I think you were maybe. even more loved by the staff in the way. you treated them. >> 100%. >> T-Roy's asked me already four times. about. how you doing. I think T-Roy might be. the most upset of everybody. >> Yeah. I can't T-Roy.

T-Roy's wearing a lot of my t-shirts and. my. and my shorts. And T-Roy is a hard. working guy and he's been around a long. time like myself and and everybody the. support staff in that building. the cafeteria people cuz I get up I'm an. early bird. So I would always see keep. Miss Keisha and I would see Charles. Charles down there and and the early. guys and and. Roman and those guys would all be there. early and we'd have a little coffee. together and and then you know you got.

Pat Dolan and his crew up there. you know and and all those guys that. have helped over the years and then. Steve Owen in the training room with. with like I can't tell you for so many. years that. giving I would also say here's another. one that you forgot was give of yourself. to your teammates. How much are you. willing to give of yourself to your. teammates? Well, that building is loaded. with people who are give of themselves. to the players, the coaches just try to. help and make their job a little bit.

easier. You know what? That not. everybody's like that. So that was a. special place for me and all those. people very special to me. >> Thanks, Danno. >> Yeah. Thank you, guys. >> And that wraps up another bonus episode. of New Heights. Thank you to Jeff. Stoutland, my man Brent Celek, Jordan. Mailata, Travis, well done. We'll have. some more bonus content for you all in. May. So stay tuned to what that might. be. >> Ooh, once again New Heights of Wonder. Show brought to you by Planet Fitness. I'm about to go hit the gym right now. Follow the show on all social media at.

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