Erin & Charissa on Sideline Mishaps, Best Kelce Convo, Girl Dad Advice & Being a Plus One | EP 166

Niger says, "You already know what time. it is." That's right. We got a very. special guest episode for you today. WE. HAVE GOT AARON ANDREWS AND CARARISSA. Thompson on the show, but. >> are we the first females to be on this. podcast since a certain incredible. interview? >> We'll almost have the same views. >> A lot of great stuff about their. careers. >> I worked in Olympics with him. Nobody. can out drink. >> who their favorite athletes are to. interview. >> Hi, I'm Aaron Andrews. I work on college. game day, but you're my first crush.

ever. And shut up. Shut up. >> Boyfriend whistles. >> I'm ordering a whistle right now off. Amazon. Steve, you're going to have a. long night ahead of you, sweetheart. >> Parenting. >> Everything should revolve around you. sitting your ass on the couch. I feel. being a great dad. >> Sports. >> You know how much Shrimp A2 Fay I had. working at ESPN? >> Fathers. >> Love my dad and started swinging him. around like a rag doll. >> A lot of great stuff coming up right. now. And I just invited myself over to. the Kelsey household for Thanksgiving. >> Chissa, we're having a tradition.

>> Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and. gentlemen, boys and girls, a wonder. brought to you by KFC. Some famous bowls and a and a bucket of. KFC. Check it, baby. That's what I'm. talking about. Take me back. We're your. host. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big. brother Jason Kelsey. Subscribe on. YouTube Plus, wherever you get your. podcast and follow the show on all. social media at New Heights Show with.

One S. Jason, tell the people what we. got coming up today. ALL RIGHTY. OUR. GUESTS TODAY are two legends in the. sports media world. >> Hey, YOU KNOW THEM FROM FOX NFL SUNDAY, THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL, and as the. co-hosts of the Calm Down Podcast. They. covered Super Bowls, the World Series, BCS CHAMPIONSHIPS, NBA ALLSTAR GAMES, CELEBRITY DIVING COMPETITIONS, AND EVEN. SPELLING BEES. THAT'S RIGHT. BETWEEN. THEM, THEY'VE GOT AN EMMY, A PAT SUMMER. AWARD, AND A THIRD PLACE finish on. Dancing with the Stars. Two of the MOST.

REQUESTED GUESTS WE'VE EVER HAD ON THE. SHOW, 92ENTERS. [screaming]. PLEASE WELCOME AARON ANDREWS AND CHARISA. THOMPSON. [screaming]. [cheering]. >> Aaron doesn't break those pom poms out. for nothing. >> Here we go. [laughter]. >> You know, I keep them locked down. Hi. guys. Thanks. >> What's going on? [screaming]. >> And I was signed up too. Get out of. here. [laughter]. >> Bring them back. Come on. All of your. children. >> Can we make the joke, Cararissa? Are we.

the first females to be on this podcast. since a certain incredible interview. that you had and [laughter] we're GOING. TO BE. >> NO, WE'LL ALMOST have the same views. I'm sure in this one. [laughter]. >> We're just lucky enough to have you guys. on here. I got to know who did the. spelling be. [sighs]. >> I can't read. I mean, I can't I can't. read or speak. >> I can't She just took at you, Travis. Oh, [laughter]. >> no. This is Everyone knows at this. point. They got to, right? >> Self-p profofessed by Travis. Yes.

>> If I can't read, I sure as hell can't. spell. That's [laughter] the damn thing. >> You and Julian Edelman. Jules also says. that he can't read, so there's that. And. he says he likes big men, so there's. that. [laughter]. >> I appreciate you guys including the. diving competition. Um, respectfully I. say this that the diving competition. that I hosted on ABC was more of a flop. than it was a splash, which was the name. of it. Kareem Abdul Jabar on a, you know, 35.

meter platform and see what happens. I. was like, whose idea? Needless [laughter] to say, there was. not. >> And I'd like to say third place was I. lost. She won the competition to Nicole. Sherzinger, Pussycat Doll. She had been. in performing art school since she was. 14 years old. And I got third place to. Evan Lysseichek, who had just won the. gold medal for figure skating in the. Winter Olympics. If I had been asked to. read a box score, I would have [ __ ]. won. You know WHAT I MEAN, RIGHT?

[laughter]. YOU WON. I would have. >> That's a number one in our heart. Thank. you. >> You were first place in my mind. All. right, let's get into it. Um, you guys. have interviewed both me and Jason. Who's a better interviewee? >> Interviewee. Yeah, >> interviewe. You guys, well, I had the great. privilege of interviewing you both at. the same time. I don't know when this. was. This was like 10 lifetimes ago. It's got to be at least 10 years ago. that I sat down with you guys for NFL. films. >> I think it was Jason's Super Bowl. >> Yeah. And it was we were in were we in. we were by your old high school cuz NFL.

Films was doing a feature on you guys. And so I sat down with both of you and. it was so wonderful and that's when I. learned Travis that you wear number 87. because of Jason. Don't let him tell you. the biggest load of [ __ ] He's not. >> How is that a load of [ __ ]. >> YOU DID NOT PICK that number because of. that. You've somehow retroactively. worked this in. There's no way. >> It was It was It was the only number. that I had a connection to. >> You just like Tony Gonzalez and you What. did you wear 87 for? What did you wear. 87 for? [laughter].

>> We went over this in the interview that. Clarissa had with us in Cleveland. Travis told me that he wears number 87. because that's the year that Jason was. born. And I thought that was so nice. >> And that's how it all started. Without. Jason, I wouldn't be where I am today. >> Exactly. >> Now say it back, Jason. >> Without Travis, [laughter]. I would be I'd be way more successful. than I am. >> I'm holding him back. >> Complete opposite. >> On the flip side though, Jason has been. known to be the um what is it? the.

Sandra uh the um the what what was the. woman that everyone was calling you? No, I was. No, I I wish I was at this point. Um Jason has been known as a journalist. himself now being with ESPN. Uh what do. you think of his interviewing skill? >> Were you gonna say Barbara Walters? >> There it is. >> Diane Sawyer. >> Sandra Walters. [laughter]. Barbara Walters. >> Oh gosh. I'm digging myself. >> You're killing it, Jason. We saw you. I. I don't know where we saw you recently,

but yeah, I think you're doing an. amazing job. I will tell you though, we. were just making a joke about uh you. know, when you guys had Taylor on. Carissa and I were both saying after. that, >> you nailed that. You freaking crushed. that. I don't And actually, I'm going to. ask you some questions right now. [laughter]. >> Pre-prepared. I mean, cuz you just were. banging them out. >> We have a great editing team. They're. very good. And um I think anybody could. have done a good job interviewing. Taylor. She was. >> Oh, well yeah,

>> she was fantastic. And I I don't know. I. just I appreciate you saying that. It. was a lot of fun. >> You did a good job putting that. interview together. I'm terrible. I. can't interview anybody. I I flip over. my words. I stumble. >> No, you don't. >> But that was that was a fun one for. sure. >> I've been in production meetings with. you. Remember? I don't know. We were. sitting in the back. We were sitting. with you and Tom Raldi Raldied you and. he asked you something about a family. member. Yeah. You started balling in our. production meeting. Do you remember. that?

>> I do remember it. Tom Raldi can make. anybody cry. That guy is just like. perfect at tugging at the heartstrings. But. >> um yeah, I've been known to shed a. couple tears. I I try to hold it back. Like I know that I'm not supposed to, but I can't not do it. I don't know. >> Yeah. >> Anyways. Yeah. >> What's the been the big What's Okay, you. go ahead. This is your podcast. You. asked the question. Please take this. over. Please take this over. >> You guys hear enough from us? >> Well, cuz the last time that I saw you, you were uh a guest, like a a week guest. on um not a weak guest. Don't take that.

out of context. Don't edit that out. You. guest. >> You were Yeah, we were in Chicago and we. did the kicking contest, but on Thursday. Night Football, you came in and you. filled in for the for the week and it. was awesome and just, you know, were a. guest of ours, but I haven't seen you. since then. And so obviously now with. you know almost a full year under your. belt in broadcasting, what's been the. biggest surprise for you? >> Oh man. Uh how much travel it is and how. much more you have to lock into. everything across the whole like NFL? >> Yeah. >> Like I think when you play, you get so.

used to just focusing on your team and. who you're playing that week. And a lot. of times you kind of don't know what's. happening like holistically across the. whole league. Now I'm probably watching. more football than I've ever watched. because you have to watch as many games. as possible. You're watching press. conferences. You're doing all these. things that as a player you just don't. pay attention to. And then on top of. that, every week's an away game. Every. week you're traveling. And that is. awesome in some ways. You get to go to a. lot of cool cities and there's not as. much pressure as playing, but at the.

same time it is a lot of travel. So I. enjoy the ability to stay involved with. the games. I like the fact that we get. to go to the games, so we get to see. players and coaches. Um, but I would say those are the two things. that probably were the most like getting. used to. >> Can I ask now that you aren't playing in. the game, but you're watching from the. viewpoint that we have every week, is. there a particular stadium or area that. you've been to and you're like, "This is.

awesome. This is really cool.". >> Oh, man. I hate to say this, and Eagles. fans are going to be furious. I never. liked playing in Jerry World. I hated. that. >> Isn't it the best? >> It's [ __ ] awesome. [laughter]. >> It's a cool spot as a spectator. I'll be. >> Do you have the chicken fingers there. yet? Fire. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Everything. I mean it's. they've done a really good job with that. place from a viewing standpoint. Vegas. is like a show. Like it feels like. you're in a like a legitimate concert. there, >> which we were just there this week. So I.

think that's probably just fresh. And. then you know there's a the places you'd. like playing as a player too. There's. like a charm to it as Like I've always. loved going to the Packer Stadium. >> for much different reasons than Jerry. World. It's awesome. >> Um. >> so yeah, and then trying to think of. like another spot that would be st uh. Bills. I think it's like. >> I can't wait to see the new stadium when. they build that what what it feels like. But I've been enjoying the last couple. seasons. >> You know what it looks like? It looks. Jason it looks like from the outside it. looks like Allegiance Stadium. It looks. like that kind like that same design.

that kind of spaceship thing. But I kind. of miss that nost I don't know. I mean, the nostalgia of Orchard Park is like. its own. >> It's gonna be hard to Yeah. You can't. replicate it. >> No. >> I am happy that it's open, though. We're. gonna still see Buffalo snow games. >> I get this year. I've never really in my. career done a massive like snow game and. I've wanted to so bad. You watch these. people like Rams Philly uh playoff game. last year. I I've wanted to do something. like that so bad where I just look like. Ralphie and Randy in Christmas. [laughter] Story. I Winston did Winston doing snow angels.

Yes. In Cleveland and then they made the. playoff. Yeah. It was really fun. But. sorry, you go ahead. >> No, no, no. But we're doing Philly at. Bills, I believe, uh later. I think it's. right after Christmas. So, the potential. of, you know, a snow globe game could be. fire. So, it' be exciting on the lake. >> It's almost a guarantee you're going to. get a little bit of snow. >> Oh, for sure. I hope so. >> Was that the Jamus Swisses? How lucky. are we? How lucky are we to be playing. football in Cleveland, OHIO? [laughter].

>> EXACTLY. And he's talking about the. Calvary with the horses and the whole. thing and pregame. >> interview. Isn't football just better. when Jamus is starting. >> Yes. >> Yes. It's not even a question. Also too, I because from our vantage point, I just. think about the reporters like when he. stands up there at the podium like you. know you're going to get something even. if it's bad. You know, obviously he ends. that game by throwing the interception. and he still is like positive and you're. like this guy is the ultimate optimist.

>> He's won at life. He's won a lot. I got. to shoot that question back to you guys. though. Going into every single NFL. stadium all over the country, which. one's your favorite to to visit? >> Hit it, CT. Well, the nostalgia of Lambo. is always number one. I mean, that is. that is football. So, that's number one. for me. But also, I love Arrowhead's. great, too. I'm not just saying that. because it's you, Trav. IT'S IT'S. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T it's not it hasn't. gone corporate and as much as these big. stadiums are great for some reason you. start to lose that feel. This your. stadium is very much like a college feel.

cuz the fans are right on top of the. field and you don't have all the sweets. down below and that kind of stuff. Um I. also love Charlotte has some bangers. I. always like they play some tunes. in Santa Clara at Levi the music Aaron. and I are big on the DJs like. Atlanta obviously. >> they're playing some pretty pablo or. >> they got [laughter] good music of people. [laughter]. >> so helicopter and then of course in. Atlanta you get Luda every other second.

so it's good yeah what about you. >> I feel like because I've been doing this. a hundred years it's the little things. like Jerry's world They take care of. you. It's inside. I mean, I know the. players have the sun in their eyes and. that sucks for a 425, you know, game, but me, I'm looking great. The chicken. fingers are fire. I love going to the. link because, uh, obviously, you know, it's fun. Great hotel. Fire dinner the. night before. Dom, I know he's trying to. take care of the team, but he's looking. out for the girl, which I appreciate. You need an IV, you need to work out.

Fine. Dom will take CARE [laughter] OF. ME. I'M INTO IT. LAMPO'S FIRE. LIKE, it's it's always such a fun time. I've. done games minus 10 there. I've done. games that are hot there. I've done. games that we didn't think it was. supposed to snow and all of a sudden it. did. It's just a pain in the butt. getting to. I love you, Wisconsin. You're so much fun. You know, to once. we're there, it's a time, but man, it's. hard getting out. >> I'm going to tell you what, she she. misses Troy Eggman's plane is what she. misses because I got the mic in and I'm. out. Thank you.

>> Always. taking advantage of the Troy Eggman. plane these days is Swagoo. Swag is. always hopping on. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I bet. [laughter]. >> He better not be in my seat. >> He keeps calling Troy his best friend, so he keeps that plane situation fresh. >> I bet he does. You're all FBO is your. best [laughter] friend. >> Got it. >> We were talking about Jerry's World. I'm. actually going to Jerry's World on. Thanksgiving. >> You are. >> You guys have a few Thanksgiving games, I believe, and a a Black Friday game as. well, right? Yep. What's that like doing.

like a like hosting a a holiday game and. is that any different than the actual. ones or is it just kind of getting away. from the family or. >> since I've gone into this industry cuz I. used to do Thursday night football with. Mike Tico Kirk Herb Street. We had a. group together. I mean, we were doing. West Virginia games, you know, and uh. Louisville, West Virginia on Thursday. Oh, yeah. So, it's hard, but I think. it's, you know, Chris and I say it all. the time to women that ask us about. being in the industry. It's one of the. best jobs, but you have to love it.

because, you know, on in the morning on. Thanksgiving, you're sitting in a hotel. room watching the Macy's Day Parade, but. then you have a front row seat to some. of the best athletes in the world. So, it's also pretty badass because we have. some amazing games that we get to watch. And I just invited myself over to the. Kelsey household for uh the black for. for Thanksgiving. >> Come on. Come on [laughter] over, Chris. >> So, yeah, it's great. And then I'm going. to be with you Trav in Kansas City. I. got we got Broncos Chiefs on Christmas. How do you like playing on Christmas?

Cuz you did it last year, too. You do. >> [ __ ] love it. Yeah, I do. I love it. I just, you know, I um I think I have a. blast going outside and just playing the. game. I love on on a on a day like that. when every when I know everybody's. enjoying their families together, sitting around a campfire or sitting. around the the the chimney or the. Christmas tree watching the games at. home. And I just know it's. >> I can I can I I can almost feel the the. excitement of Christmas that everyone.

else is enjoying while I'm on the field. And I don't know, it's just uh it's a. fun it's a fun atmosphere. I've had the. pleasure of uh playing I think three. games. >> on Christmas and uh and each and every. single one of them I had a blast in. And. on top of that, I I get to have. everybody come through to Kansas City, Christmas and KC this year. So it'll be. a good time. >> That's right. >> Those games just feel different. They do. like Thanksgiving we all on Fox we pay. tribute to John Madden which is really. really special. So that day just feels. different for us. Yeah.

>> Kucken. Mhm. That's You guys ever had. the duck? >> I have never had one. I've always wanted. to. I don't even know where you get. that. >> I'll get one sent to your house. They. send us all one. Yeah, we'll get them. for you guys. >> Carissa, we're having a tuckin. [laughter]. >> Goddamn right. I'm By the way, I'm. packing that on air, Al. And I'll see. you in Philadelphia. It is so good. >> Can you fry a turducken or does it have. to be roasted? Well, how do you cook a. turducken? >> That's a great question. I. >> Why not?

>> Well, because there's stuffing on the. inside. >> Inside. Yeah. >> There's a lot of things in there. Hey, um, one guy that we all love on this. podcast a lot, Greg Olsen. We had Greg. Olsson eat a turducken one year and it. was just like. >> he went crazy. >> Oh my god. So good. Hands through the. hair, you know, by the third quarter. It. was so fabulous. [laughter] Yeah, forget. the Forget the gel. It's just straight. grease. >> J Jason likes to do a fried turkey. >> Yeah, we do. >> Like fried. I like I prefer the fried.

>> No, I'm saying you like to you like to. fry your turkey on Thanksgiving. >> I'm frying it. >> All right. All right. Just want to make. sure. >> Yeah. >> Wait, you actually do it, Jay? >> Oh, yeah. >> Jared does it, too? >> He's gone through three fryers. [laughter]. >> I do tend to leave the oil in the fryer. outside for too long and then we got to. pitch the fryer. But yeah. What's the. key to a perfect fried turkey? >> Got to brine it. Uh definitely make sure. that it's completely thawed and there's. no uh it's not frozen. All that leads to. a disaster. You don't want that.

[laughter]. >> You got to make sure you get the fill. line properly, right? Because obviously. >> proper fill line. >> when you when you put the turkey in, the. oil is going to come up. So, you don't. want that oil too high, but you want. enough that it's going to cover the. bird. Um but yeah, you brine it. Uh. there's an injector. One of our former. strength coaches told me, I forget the. name, >> but there's a specific injector of like. butter creole seasoning. >> that you inject right before you put it. in the fryer. >> It is real good. Very good.

>> Yeah, >> that's about it. Yeah, >> we love it. >> Put the seasoning on the outside of it. Yeah, >> they're good. I feel like once you fry. turkey, you can't go back. Jared does. one every year. I love it. >> I'm with you 100%. How did you guys. decide you want to do this with your. lives? What leads to becoming a. broadcaster, journalist in in sports? >> Aaron and I have very similar. motivations. Um, I'll let her tell her. side of the story, but mine was because. I loved hanging out with my dad and he. would watch football every Sunday. I. would beg my mom to miss church so I.

could just hang out with my dad. I would. sit next to him and I had one very just. one simple rule. I wasn't allowed to. talk. He would teach me the game. If I. had a question, I'd have to raise my. hand and he [laughter] would teach me. the game of football. And it was so cuz. he's like, "Hey, I'm not going to have. you yapping over here the whole time. [laughter] So I will teach you the. game.". >> But you know what, Jason, you'll. appreciate this. And Travis, when you. have kids as well, he would make. everything a game, right? So he's like, "All right, we're going to play school. So you're going to raise your hand and. I'm the teacher and I'll teach you and. those kinds of things." He also had long.

hair. And so it was like if he wanted to. be lazy and watch us. He's like, "Okay, I'm the patient. I broke my leg. I can't. get off the couch, so fix my broken. leg." or so every game he played. revolved [laughter] sitting on the couch. and it was still playing with us. It was. brilliant. >> Brilliant. >> He's like he had long hair and he's like. look I need my haircut. You got to fix. my hair again. Hasn't moved from the. couch. But anyways, >> I need to get some of these games. [laughter]. >> I'm digging this. >> You're playing games all wrong, Jason. >> Everything should revolve around you. sitting your ass on the couch still.

being a great dad. [laughter]. >> But yeah, he loved sports. So I loved. sports. And I had a brother who played. baseball growing up. I played sports. growing up and for me, you know, sports. was so much a part of who I was growing. up and so I was a big believer that any. anything I could do professionally that. kept me in sports was the ideal. situation. Work as a team, we win. together, we lose together, all of that. And I just love the idea of being able. to have a profession that involved. involved sports involve and you know. worked around it. So, um, that's sort of.

my motivation. And then, you know, the. path to actually getting on air is a. little, but yeah, I started in HR. because I just wanted to get in the. building. Uh, went through everyone's. files, ended up blackmailing them. [laughter] So smart. >> You got me. I was like, "Oh, this is. great. >> I have this on you. Let me do Yeah. Who. have you [laughter] been hanging out. with?" Yeah. Um I got in the building. through HR and uh just ended up in. production and then you know different. things from there. But no, I just have.

always loved sports. So that's sort of. my quick 20 second background. >> That was awesome. I love it. >> Mine's my dad. He's from New England. Big big uh you know Celtics, Red Sox. He. grew up liking the Packers cuz he always. said the Patriots were so bad that they. were blacked out in Massachusetts. That's how bad they were. So, I uh I. grew up just my dad's a great. storyteller. He was on television. forever and he just explained it to me. very much like not like Chris's dad. I. wasn't, you know, uh taking care of him. No, I'm joking. But he would just make.

these people sound like my friends. And. unfortunately, unfortunately, I grew up. thinking that they were. I was obsessed. with the Celtics. I I wanted the Red Sox. to win a a World Series so bad for my. father. I loved sitting back and. watching Brett Favre um you know do his. thing with my dad. And then when I there. was never another option. Well, actually. it was like I want to be a sports. broadcaster or I'm going to be a marine. biologist which. >> wildly different. [laughter]. >> Sure. >> Sure. So, um yeah, let's be honest. We.

all know how smart I am. I don't think. that would have worked out. But I um I. love it so much. I went to the. University of Florida. I told my dad. because, you know, if you have a good. football team, college football team, the ESPN's, the CBS's, they'll be there. I just wanted really fun Saturdays. And. then [laughter] because I grew up. thinking these guys were my friend, I've. friends. I've had multiple um encounters. with Larry Bird. I met him and I told. him everything about my life in one.

minute and absolutely like vomited my. life story [laughter] about how he is my. everything. called my dad right away and. I said, "Holy [ __ ] Dad. I just met. Larry Legend. I think I embarrassed. myself. I talked about all this stuff. that and he goes, "Oh my god, can you go. back and say I'm sorry?" I'm like, "No, DAD." [screaming]. Kevin McCale in a in an airport one. time, ran up to him. It was like 11:00. He's going somewhere. I'm going. somewhere. Coming home from a game, telling him he was my first crush ever. Hi, I'm Aaron Andrews. I work on college.

game day, but you're my first crush. ever. And I just want to tell you, thank. you FOR SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT. [laughter] UP. >> ONE cool ass story though, like you. think about like giving it, you know, paying it forward and you know with your. parents and everything. When I worked. for ESPN, no actually Fox, I got to. cover the World Series and um my dad was. I took my dad to Fenway. It was actually. right after um you know the the marathon. and everything and how dramatic that. was. But I brought my dad onto the field.

after they won. And then Fox said, "We're going to go live. Go inside the. clubhouse. Grab Big Poppy or whatever.". Poppy actually came out in a tank top, goggles, champagne, sprayed all of us, PAPA. [laughter]. AND started swinging him around like a. rag doll. >> And my dad was just like, "This is. [ __ ] awesome." It was just so cool. >> This is so cool. Oh, those stories are. the best. >> You know, we both have our motivation. and inspiration to be in sports. broadcasting was our dads. And I think. to be able to have those moments with.

them, like you had that at the World. Series. I got to bring my dad to the. 2019 Masters front row. Amen. Corner, top of the leaderboard, starts falling. off. Tigers inching his way up and I'm. like, well, we might be able to see. this. And then we go to 16 or second row. at 16. He birdies 16. And I like sat. there and I was like, holy [ __ ] I'm. going to be able to experience Tiger Win. winning the Masters with my dad. And. like our parents don't ask for anything. Like all they ever want is for us to be.

happy and healthy and like do what we. love. And so to like have access or. those moments where we can share them. with our parents, like that's like the. greatest gift in the world. >> Yeah, >> that's awesome. >> Giving the fam those kind of memories, those kind of moments, it's it's you. can't put a price tag on it. >> And my daughters don't like watching. sports with me yet. How do I tr start to. convince them to like watching sports? Is it the haircut? I got to start. playing with the games. Is that the. [laughter]. key? >> Doctor, barbershop. Yes.

>> Just centered around. So they don't. they're not interested in in football. >> I think they're so they're so young. I. Wyatt I think she would do it now. She. usually wants to watch some Disney movie. or like another yet. >> But hopefully I'm I'm hopeful that it's. going to start to happen. >> here coming up. I got to start coming up. with a game. I think I think that that's. the way I got to figure out some way. that we're we're doing something and. playing while the game's happening. because the attention span's not there. These kids stay, they can't sit down and.

watch. No. >> Like they just want the screen to be. changing continually stimuli. >> Yeah. >> Crack. I think that's also what was so special. um about you know Erin and I have talked. about it like with women and young. viewerships like Taylor's impact cannot. be overlooked like those little girls. that maybe didn't have an interest in. football and then sit down because it's. her like that the the commercials and. the different like little videos that. you see that now all of a sudden the.

dads have a bond with their daughter and. her like is so special again as two. women who have made a career out of this. because of their dads to have those. moments. Like, who knows what kind of. impact that will have later on in their. lives in a myriad of different ways, but. it it's really special to see. >> That was just it for me was just having. that time with my dad cuz my dad worked. the weekends. He was, you know, at on TV. at night, so I didn't get to see him. So, that was like our special time to do. that. So, maybe you carve that out as. your special time with your kids. I. don't know.

>> I I I like that free time. I mean, listen, I'd rather watch football than. some of the other things you're doing. Uh, I think also you just mentioned. Taylor and how much she's gotten girls. into the sport and dads and daughters. together, which that's one of the. coolest things I get when people talk. about Taylor and Travis and hearing from. dads or hearing from daughters about. that. It's a awesome thing. But also. like how much do you guys think about. how many women you've been impacted that. watch sports? Like. >> Oh yeah. >> Kylie was a communications major. She. raved about both of you guys and how.

much she's loved like the platform that. you've put women on in sports. Like, do. you guys often think about that and how. many women look to you guys as like role. models for uh being involved in sports? >> Thank you for saying that. Thank you, Kylie. That's high praise from you. Um, but there was a young lady, her name's. Alexandra. She works as a Patriots. reporter. She has for the last 5 years. She's been in the industry for 10 years. And as I was walking out on Thursday. night, she handed me a handwritten note. and wrote the nicest thing about Aaron.

and I. And I don't ever like to think. like, oh, inspiration, whatever. But it. was so well said that, you know, she. watched Aaron and I do this over the. last few years and kind of were, you. know, behind the scenes, I guess, a. motivation for her to do it as well. And. now she's doing it. And she's doing it. on a big stage. And that's and again, Aaron and I have been in this industry. for 20 years. So when I have moments. like that or even get anyone recognizing. that maybe we might have, you know, I. don't know, dare I say, inspired them, like that's really special. And I don't. ever ever ever take that for granted.

because I'll be honest, and I told your. wife this on on her podcast, there was. some women that were not so nice to to. me coming through uh as I was. >> surprising to me, you know, >> I'll just say I mean women can be catty. and and look at men can be catty, too. It's not just limited to the fe female. gender, but it it you know jealousy or. um you know these are few and far. between. These are very coveted. positions. And so look, there's a. competitiveness that unfortunately turns.

into cattiness. And I always made it a. point because I will never forget those. people, the individuals that were not so. nice. And I was like, if there's anyone. I I understand that this seat is is a. special privilege to sit in, but there. will be a time and a place where I have. to pass that on. you guys know in the. industry and the positions that you play. and the sport that you play. There comes. a time where there's going to be the. next younger, faster, bigger, stronger. person. And so it's like, yeah, you. don't want to give up the seat, but it. but at least help that person along the. way. So I'm grateful of the women that.

were nice to me, but the ones that I. will always remember the ones that were. not so nice. So. >> yeah, >> I think for the longest time I Well, even now, I just. >> I was Tom Raldi the other day. We were. talking. He said to me, "You're not a. tourist with how much you love the. sport. you. I live and breathe it. Not. like you guys. I mean, believe me, I I. get that. That's a different kind of. lifestyle and dedication, but I'm. obsessed with it because it's the only. thing I love talking about besides my. family. Um, I look up to you guys so.

much. I look up to your families, what. you've been through, and and a lot of. that is because of who I ended up. marrying and watching his journey and. knowing what it takes behind the scenes, especially when you're not a superstar. or anything like that, but you love the. game so much. Um, I love football and I. there's nothing more I want to do than. be out there. And so I feel like when. people come up to me, especially dads, and they say, "I want my little girl to. do this. I want her to be like you.". That's I think what's breaking me down a. lot more than it used to, especially now.

that I have Mac. Um because I want my my. kids to be you. I do. I want them to. attack life like both of you did. And um. or do. And so I think that's the thing. that's like hitting me harder than ever, you know, and and and also I'll echo. that about Kylie as well when she had me. on the podcast and she just mentioned. that Kylie's no [ __ ] Like she knows. what's real and what's not. And when she. just said, "Hey, you know, you've done. this and I've looked that hit me like I. I got, you know, tears in my eyes.

because she knows the people that care. and love it and respect the players and. the coaches and the organizations like. Chris and I do. So that means a lot to. me when you're kind of stopped and and. like Carissa got that note the other day. that those are nice reminders. >> Absolutely. I bet. >> it's the best. Do you guys remember your. first broadcast? You've done so many. >> Welcome to broadcasting moment. >> Were you proud of it? Were you Did you. black out? Did you do you remember. exactly what you said? >> I remember my first like my first ESPN.

one. Like I I worked with the Tampa Bay. Lightning. That was where my first real. gig out of college. I was the sideline. reporter. I mean Jared loves to watch. those like you know if they're showing. the Stanley Cup and he's like look at. green machine. I like thought it was so. [laughter] great. >> The Tampa Bay Lightning were playing the. Calgary Flames in the Stanley Cup final. I worked for ABC. I got to do it. It's. game seven back in Tampa. Like the team. I got my first job with and you know. what my mom and dad and I we went to the. Westshore Mall and we went to Ann Taylor. and I picked out a green top that I.

thought would be fire for GAME SEVEN. LET'S GO. >> So Jared loves when they start playing. that. He's like, "Look at the green. machine there with the the [laughter]. like brown lip liner and all that.". >> Oh my gosh. >> My first ESPN game, they threw me after. I got, you know, I I did that for ESPN, they threw me on uh Saturday Night. Football, which was, you know, such a. huge deal. And I think it was Virginia. Tech USC. And it was not, it was. somewhere. It wasn't even at their.

stadium. It was such a big night for. those two teams. And um I remember we. had a jib cam. Jason, you know the one. because I think you guys use it. They. had a jib cam and I was gripping that. microphone so hard, but I also was. standing with my legs like this. Like I. was bracing myself like a cheerleader. like the old. [laughter]. >> And my producer after I nailed my hit. goes, "Hey, great job. So next time we. do this, CLOSE YOUR LEGS.". >> [laughter].

>> I NEEDED A GOOD BASE. I NEEDED A GOOD. BASE. >> CT, what about you? When I, you know, worked in HR, then I moved into. production and I was like, I want to, you know, be in sports broadcasting. They're like, cool. Uh, good luck with. that. [laughter] Go work in production. And so, I took whatever job was. available in the production because it. was all the, remember all the RSN's like. the Fox Sports Rocky Mound or Fox Sports. Pittsburgh, all of those. So I moved I. moved to Denver and I became a. production assistant and I just worked. behind the scenes and I did anything I. could to learn the trade and all that.

kind of stuff. And so then they were. like well we're going to send you out to. like local bars and you know kind of. interview fans and all that kind of. stuff. >> So like those that was my first on air. experience was in a bar and I was like. well this is weird. So natural in. [laughter] in this environment. >> Yeah. These are my people in here. So. then that got parlayed into they let the. girl go that was on air as their Rockies. reporter, the Colorado Rockies. And so. they they were like, "We'll give you a. shot. If you're okay, then we'll give.

you another shot." And then they kept. giving me shots. And so that turned into. a two-year contract, which was awesome. Anyways, so that was my first on air. experience. But my first welcome to TV. moment, TV in a cold environment moment. was I'm working for the Big 10 network. It is a Golden Gophers game. We are. outside. You know the one. You know the. one. [laughter] I got the microphone. All right. Coach says D and the play. [ __ ] I I MEAN PLAY. [laughter]. [screaming]. >> OH NO.

>> MY MOUTH IS FROZEN. Oh yeah. I can't. correct myself. So finally I just go. Tom. [laughter]. >> You guys got it from here. >> And that's the worst. Jason, I don't. know if you feel this way on air. It's. like once you stumble, it's like and. then you try to correct it. It's almost. like lying. The cover up, the just the. it's like my mouth was frozen. It was. just a wrap. >> Oh, that's funny. Do you think it's. easier to get into sports broadcasting. now or verse when you guys first.

started? What do you What do you think. of the current landscape? >> I think the one thing that's cool is. there's a lot of avenues like these. teams have their own like digital social. production studios that are nicer than. what I was ever, you know, introduced to. before I got to Fox or ESPN. So, I think. there's a lot more opportunities in. terms of how you get into the industry, but I will say this, Leslie Visser gave. me this piece of advice, you know, and I. don't know if you're just talking about. being a female in the industry, but you. know, you I say this to young girls, I.

kind of copy her, but being a female. helps you get your foot in the door, but. in order for you to stay, you have to. work your tail off. And I think that's. because of being a female, right? Um, and I that's the chip I have on my. shoulder. But yeah, I do think there's a. lot more opportunities. What do you. think, CT? >> Yeah, I mean in the in the digital age. that we live in. I mean, there's so many. different platforms. I mean, you could. start your own channel. You could, you. know, whether it's a podcast, whether. it's YouTube channel, any of these. things. There's so many like whereas for. us, I mean, 20 years ago, it was, you.

know, the CBS, the ABC, the, you know, Fox. I mean, there was only a couple. And like, as I mentioned, those regional. channels as well, or like your local. news. I remember my, you know, when I. was working my way through production, somebody said to me, a news director, and he was like, "You send a resume. reel." And, you know, for me, it was. like on this, I I took it from a beta. and a DVC Pro and I put it on a CD. And. he's like, "There's going to be. different news directors that are going. to put this this tape in for all of 5. seconds." So, if you don't capture their. attention in the first 5 seconds, it's a.

wrap. You're going to be thrown in this. pile with a bunch of other tapes of. people that want to do this. And so when. I was younger and I knew I wanted to do. it, I took a paper towel roll and a. tennis ball and I taped it together and. I made a microphone and I took my. parents, you know, old camcorder thing. and I set it up on a ledge and. [laughter] I begged my brother, >> begged my brother to be Jay Buunner. I. was like, "Can you please be Jay Buunner. so I can interview you?" And I made this. like whole thing. >> and he got like a free bat, you know, like when you go to the Mariners game.

like, "Oh, it's batting, you know, helmet night or like you whatever." So. he. >> Oh yeah. >> Two years older than me and he's like. like this is so stupid Cararissa like so. stupid. And I was like please I'll do. whatever you want. Just please can you. please just do this? So he's like fine. [laughter]. >> So he stands there and I interview him. with this. >> Yeah. I mean I was like you can't be Ken. Griffy. I mean unfortunately we're like. trying TO MAKE THIS. >> THAT video would HAVE BEEN EPIC. [laughter]. >> I ended up using that on my resume reel.

>> That's on your re. That was on your. reel. Yeah, because I was like, how am I. going to get these news directors. attention in the first 5 seconds? And so. it was like a 10-year-old, you know, little girl interviewing, you know, brother. So anyways, those were the. things that we had to do. Nowadays with. social media, you don't have to, you. know, attention. You just have to get. followers and you have to do all of that. stuff where it's like there's a. following. There's a whole different. >> avenue that you can approach it from, which is great. I mean, the more the. marrier. That's what I say. I mean, here's my thing about that, too. And and. welcoming in everybody. there's room at.

the table for everybody. And if there. isn't, then then get another table and. build, you know, a group over there. So, um, yeah, I think it's awesome that if. anybody wants to do this job, there's. opportunities. But again, you know, as. you work your way up, there's those. coveted ones that are few and far. between. >> CT, do you remember like any of your. features or packages that were on your. resume reel? I can only think of one. that I know and I remember I was editing. it and I was trying to do Phil Collins. in the air. Do you remember [laughter]. like one of yours? Oh yeah.

>> Not not as dramatic as a Phil Collins. from the internet. >> This was you had to do the the recording. and the editing and this wasn't just. like Yeah, that's crazy. >> And mine was awful. >> Chasey, could you imagine if we had to. edit this show [laughter]. >> edit carry the tripod? You had to set up. the shot. You had to do Yeah. voiceovers. You had to do all of that. But I think that's a good to be able to. learn all facets of it. But let's go. back to you guys editing this show.

[laughter]. >> Okay. Yeah. They would never get out by saying. that's damn sure. >> application they use. [laughter] LIKE I. I CAN'T FIND THE PRINT BUTTON ON THIS. [ __ ] COMPUTER. I WOULD HAVE NO. CHANCE. I DON'T KNOW HOW to work any of. this stuff. [laughter]. That's. >> if you told me if you told me to print. something on the printer right here, I. would cut it. [laughter]. >> Do you guys have a favorite sport that. you like covering? >> Oo, that's a good one. >> Doing it. The NFL.

>> NFL for sure. >> Yeah, I was a part of college forever, even, you know, doing college game day. and it was great and I loved it so much. and I'm grateful of. >> it really just formed me. It taught me a. lot. I mean, it it did. And I I made. great relationships with the guys that I. worked with. But I knew, and this was a. big thing when I left ESPN to go to Fox. It was a I was like, "Am I doing the. right thing? Should I not?" I mean, I. called I talked to Coach K. I talked to. Chip Kelly. I talked to a lot of people. that I worked with and I was like, "Is. this the right thing to do?" It's the.

best sport to [laughter] cover. It is. awesome. >> And it's because of you guys. It is. It's just. >> Are football players the NFL players are. the best to cover? You think. >> hockeyy's pretty fun, too. Hockeyy's a. time. >> The athletes that play in the NHL are by. far the wildest. They are like the. dispersity of them. Oh, yeah. >> They're party. They're fun time. And. they will say more outlandish things. I. feel like NFL guys are more buttoned up. and kind of tow the line mostly, whereas.

I feel like NHL guys, you'll get like. some great sound bites out of these. dudes. There's a little bit of that. protect the shield from the NFL whereas. where hockey because I covered hockey. for a couple years when it was versus it. became part of NBC's package. But I love. playoff hockey. There is nothing [ __ ]. better. I got to say like yes of course. playoff you know the NFL that's my. number one but right below that is. playoff hockey. I'll never forget the. Montreal Canadians were an eight seed. They knocked off the Capitals. Then they. knocked off the Penguins. Then they took. the Flyers I think it was to four. and.

just going and and working a game at the. Bell Center in Montreal and like that is. yeah it was an awesome experience and I. don't need to tell Aaron because she's. been to more hockey games than she can. ever remember. Jarrett winning two. Stanley Cups and like that whole. experience but like. >> hockey is incredible. I love college. college my first ever college football. game I worked was Michigan Appstate that. big up. >> you know the one you guys for the. >> block. >> that's a fun one. >> and I remember.

standing there and I was like I mean I'm. I'm obviously like understand the game. and I be like this is this is this is a. D3 school this is you know this big. upset and so um I remember my I even. remember my opening standup you could. rob a bank in Boone today because no one. is watching everyone's watching this. [laughter] game. And then it ended up. being a big upset. We got in the car. afterwards and Tom Brenamman and Charles. Davis were the playbyplay and analysts. and they go, "Well, how does that rank. of all the games you've worked?" And I.

was like, "Well, this was my first one.". And [laughter]. number one, >> it's all downhill from here. >> Why are you here? >> And this is very odd. There were three. banks robbed in. >> Exactly. Boone, North Carolina had a lot. of bank robberies that day. [laughter]. Uh, but no, it was college football's. cool. The jump around at Camp Randall. I. mean, Aaron got to work SEC. I'm so. jealous. I never got to work in SEC. football game. >> Yeah. I want to I want to go back to. these SEC places.

every single one of them, man. I've only. played in Neither has Jared. He's never. gotten to see any of it. I'm like, you. dude, you have no idea. It's like. Toronto Maple Leaves on, you know, it's. a ne it's the next level. >> Okay. So, so seriously, what's the I. know I know you went to Florida. What's. the best environment in all honesty on. game day? Because I've heard one like. routinely and I want to know if it. matches up. >> When I was, you know, working college. game day, Sabin Alabama, it was the end. all beall. I was like, I'm getting my.

kid. I'm going I'm giving him to Sabin. It's going to be like Simba, the circle. of [laughter] life. He's going to make. my kid go to the national championship. and get him in the league. Um, so. Alabama is fire. LSU. at night. THAT IS WHAT EVERYONE SAYS. DEATH VALLEY. EVERYONE UNANIMOUSLY. LEVEL. It's rocking. It's shaking. Those. people have been in the parking lot over. the weekend. They are marinated. perfectly. [laughter] It is shrimp af. You know how much shrimp af.

[laughter]. is fun for, you know, a 3:00 game, but. LSU is is amazing. It's really great. People just park in the middle of the. street and they just take their car and. their keys with them. Like what is. happening? >> Jesse Palmer, who I also work Thursday. night football with, he used to talk. about when he played for Florida, I. don't know, it was a big matchup. It was. like one versus whatever Florida rolls. into uh Death Valley and he said, you. know, they're on the bus with Coach. Spurer and people are just shaking the. Gator bus and he said there's gators.

hanging from the trees and coach SPURER. WAS LIKE, "HOLD ON, Y'ALL. HOLD ON.". >> [laughter]. >> OLD DAYS LIKE THAT, those stories so. much fun. Yeah, college football it. Yeah, it was fun to cover, but I like. going to I like going to Arrowhead with. the NIL and conference realignment. It. feels different. There's still awesome. games that's, you know, the the sport is. still great. It just felt different. when, you know, like the Pack 10 was the. Pack 10 and the, you know, I don't know.

There just is like a different vibe to. it. That's. >> Yeah, it's it's definitely in a weird. state right now with the conferences and. the NAL stuff and teams are. >> now it has 20 teams. I don't even know. I couldn't even name all the teams. >> I know it's different. >> Kids are like playing for like three. different schools. Like it's nuts. It's. >> driving. Yeah. But the plus ones, you, Jared, Steve, you guys have to go to LSU. together when everybody's like done with. their, you know, playing that would you. guys would crush it. >> Yes. CT, I was going to ask you when you.

covered NHL and we both did. Was there. ever a time because the injuries with. those guys are so different from I mean. hockey players will come and do an. interview with half their face hanging. off and I did it I did a game Jeremy. Ronic that shows how old I am. Half his. face was off like he had gotten it all. stitched up and and was. >> Yeah. He had to wear that chin guard for. a while. I remember this. >> And I looked at him and I go, "Oh my. god." And then I just blanked out on my. >> making you talk. >> Yeah. I go, "Does that hurt?" And he was.

like, "Yes, really [laughter]. interviews." Cuz it was like half his. face was hanging off. But dude, did you. ever do one where you're like, "Holy. shit." No, I didn't have that. experience. But if when you said Jeremy. Ronic, I remember I worked in I worked. in Olympics with him in Vancouver. Nobody. Nobody. I repeat, and I can out. drink Jeremy Ronic. He is talking maniac. in the best way possible. I Oh my god, >> I want to play golf with Ronic. I've.

heard he is just a blast on the course, but. >> they all are. They're so much fun. Speaking of good people, which was a. really really fun story. We had a chance. to and Casey hang out um with Wayne and. Janet um and you guys all together and. it was I guess I wasn't really paying. attention to my husband in the moment. Like he has, you know, hung out with. Wayne a little bit, but not anything too. like that personal of that night. And my husband was glowing. I mean, it.

was like and I was Oh my god. And and it. was so cool, Chris. I don't know what. you think, but like the boys that we. were with just asking Wayne all the. questions like seeing somebody like Greg. Olsen just Wayne, let me ask you. something. So this three tight end. formation. No, I'm kidding. But you know. what? Like Greg, those guys, it was just. so so cool. And what's so great about. Wayne and I think the NHL is just a. normal dude. We'll talk and s Marissa. what a great job she does and and and. Greg and just really really just awesome. to be around.

>> I I mean it's Wayne Gretzky. It's. there's I mean yeah full stop Wayne. Gretzky. I mean you're just down but. that just reminds me of the text chain. that we're on and Greg Olsen does not. care if we tell this story because. >> Wayne it's I don't know who's on the. text. There's a couple of us including. Greg. Aaron and I myself Dean Kevinino. Okay, Kevin. And [laughter]. after that night, it was a couple days. later, like last week, I guess Wayne had. texted Greg. He got his phone number and.

he just wrote, "Hey, this is 99." Okay. There's only one 99. >> It's not JJ. [laughter]. >> Yeah. He actually said, "Hey, I just. want to tell you it was great hanging. out with you and I just was watching you. and you do a really good job." And he. also gave a little bit of a hint. He. said, "Janet and I really enjoyed. getting to know you." So Greg sends a. picture of the text to all of us. [laughter] on this chain. And Greg's. response is, "I'm sorry. Who is this?".

He wrote, "Who is this?". >> Oh my gosh. >> He had to be joking. No way. No, he. wasn't. >> I mean, he had a few ones that night. I. think we all had a few ones that night. [laughter]. >> That was a good one. My guy came in from. Dallas. He was working a game in Dallas. and came in just to just to get some uh. some food over at 1587. Had no idea he. was going to run into the great. That's. amazing. >> Remember that was a back and forth like. that was the Giants Dallas game. It went. back and forth a hundred different times. and he was like, "Oh, I'm I'm not.

missing it." He is such an animal, Greg. What What a. >> That's awesome. >> Yeah, Wayne is I had two uh posters on. my wall as a kid. I had Wayne Gretzky. and Mark Maguire. >> from uh when he broke the record for the. home. [laughter]. Very odd. I was not fans of either of. the teams right there. That's right. >> That's [laughter] right. >> Bring steroids back, baby. >> Hey, I had a Brian Dosworth poster. >> Yeah. >> You got to do just take steroids and you. get up on the wall, KIDS. [laughter].

>> AARON, you just touched on the like. hockey players. There is like this just. being like regular guys. I feel like. there's a beautiful culture with hockey. where like if you even start to get a. big head, your teammates will rip you. apart like ruthlessly. >> Oh, immediately. >> And that's something I've always chop. you down. >> And then like Roique with the with the. cut, >> THEY THEY LIKE BRAG about their teeth. being missing. They'll take their teeth. out of the bar and set it down on like a. can. And it's like a it's a badge of. honor at being marred for life for those.

guys. >> And I I mean I can say this cuz I. married one. They're some of the best. looking dudes you've ever seen. like. they are gorgeous. But yeah, all. >> they take the teeth out, you're like, "Ooh, >> on [laughter] the kings and and our. friends, we walk around with gold prongs. hanging down in the front cuz they're. like, "What's the point? It's just going. to get, you know, bashed in during the. season. I'll wait till the end of the. year to uh to get the veneers put in.". But fun fact, we have incredible. incredible health insurance with the. NHL. We still [laughter] HAVE.

>> You want to know what we don't have good. insurance on? >> Dental. >> Yes. [laughter] Oh, no way. >> They lobbyed for it. The players was. like, "No, >> the owners [laughter] are like, "Yeah, we're not we're not agreeing to dental. for life. No, no chance." [laughter]. >> I'd love to ask you guys about some of. your uh current co-workers. Um what. former player. um has gone into the broadcasting world. that has surprised you guys the most? >> Former player. That's good. Um you know, I had a really I'll just start while.

Erin thinks. I had a really unique. situation with Amazon because. >> everybody except for Tony had just come. from playing. So just finished playing, Whit just finished playing and Fitz. finished playing. So they had never done. >> TV before. I remember we were in our. first production meeting in the rundown. >> Yeah. >> It said banter in the rundown and they. all look at me and they go, "What does. that mean?" And I go, "Oh Jesus.". [laughter]. I was like out of the glass. You don't.

know what banter is? >> Pretty self-explanatory, guys. Just. start talking. [laughter]. >> Just shoot the [ __ ] boys. >> But it was I I have been so impressed. with how I mean they have been. unbelievable. They have uh you know, we're now in our fourth year and you. never know that these guys had never. done television before uh we started. Amazon. So that was that was that was an. awesome um you know it speaks to you. know do your do your homework and it. shows and also the personality and also.

you know Amazon allows you very much. like Fox says it's why we love working. for these companies. It's like be you. They don't try to make you someone. you're not. So if Fitz wants to rip a. shirt off or wear a Hawaiian shirt he. can do that. If Whit wants to have his. hoodie on under his jacket he can do. that. Anyways, it's just I I was very. impressed with with those guys ability. to jump in so quickly after Jason, as. you know, um you know, you're done. playing cuz it looks easier than it. actually is on TV. Everyone's like, "Oh, anyone can do it." And you're like, "Okay, then come try it. It's not as. easy as it looks." So,

>> yeah. And I think we saw that with Tom. Brady. I mean, I think he was the most. scrutinized person to get into a booth, especially last year, right? Um and I'm. proud of him. I I really thought, you. know, like you said, you get in, you. think you can do it, and it's like, and. I'm not saying that about Tom, but. everyone has their opinion. And and they. let it be known what they thought of. him. And it was funny. We were um I. think we were doing Tampa, maybe it was. Eagles, Tampa Eagles week four and I was. sitting in my hotel room and they were. playing last year's Eagles Bucks game.

and uh I texted TB and I just said, "Wow, listening to you in this game, which was your fourth game of the season. versus now, it's just night and day.". And that's a testament. And I I'm I'm. not surprised because I think all of us. know what his work ethic, you know, was. going to be heading into the job. I. think I'm more annoyed about how good. he's gotten and how quickly. I'm like, come on. Do you do everything well? This. is crazy. [laughter] And you look. fantastic. >> He looks so good. I don't I need to.

figure out what he's doing. He his hair, his skin. >> He's not going to bars, Jason. >> Is that what the He doesn't go to bars. >> He doesn't go to bars. >> I'm not willing to give that up. >> We're [laughter] never going to get. here. >> I don't know if he's embracing the. grays, Jason. I think you embrace the. grays. >> You guys know this. You've been around. enough of us and and you've been around. enough guys in the locker room. You can. tell when you sit down with players that. you're like, "You'd be really good at. this." By the way, I mean, Jason, we. were telling you that non-stop when we. would deal with you in Philadelphia and. Tra about it as well. I mean, you can.

just tell the guys that'll. >> be able to shine. >> Jason's been killing it. One of my. favorite segments Jason's ever done is. his uh his uh piece on the veteran uh he. did last week. That was awesome. >> Yeah. kept it together. >> That was awesome. Um, you're the best. All right, that was just a little bit of. a brother bragging. Um, >> was very sweet. >> Thank you to our sponsor KFC. Are you a. dark meat or a breast kind of guy? >> When you get KFC, you can get it all.

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I think we can keep this thing moving to. uh our last segment, which is we got to. ask. You guys don't have to answer, but. um it's uh you guys should tell us the. [ __ ] off, but I think these are fun. questions to ask. And I'll start it off. with uh who is the hardest coach that. you have ever had an sideline interview. with. >> Lloyd Carr, I'll just start right here. They were miss they were losing and that. Michigan Appstate game, he blew me off. He didn't stop. He was like, "Peace. out." at and remember this was my first.

ever game so I was like oh [ __ ] like I. right and then I'm like the me now I. would have ran his ass down and tackled. him and been like no we're going to. answer [laughter] this um. >> you got an obligation. >> Lloyd Carr. Lloyd Carr was my was my Yeah I mean. that stands out. >> for sure. >> um I would say coach Bich I just and not. because he was ever disrespectful but. you knew what you were get you would get. even if they were up by 30 And I love a.

challenge. And I remember just asking. Jared, even texting him during the game. I'm like, [ __ ] I'm in my head about. this. Like, I want coach this to go. well. And Jarrett would always say, "It's not about you. This has nothing to. do with you. This is how it is." Like, this is, you know, his demeanor on the. field. And cuz off the field, I would. say to coach, "Hey, how do I get you to. like me?" And he's like, "What are you. talking about? I like you." [laughter]. But that was just how he handled things. So, I I took it as a mission. Coach. Sabin early in his career when I was. doing college I was very like because he.

was very direct but then. >> he's similar. Yeah. >> Yeah. But uh yeah I cracked him a bit. So. >> nice. >> What about what about the opposite. favorite coach? Like who's like somebody. where you're like I get to talk to him. and he's just going to kill it. This is. going to be great. >> Yeah. Happy or sad or pissed off? Kyle. Shanahan is freaking great at halftime. cuz he will tell you everything and he. doesn't candy coat it. Chris and I have. talked about it a lot and he'll also do. it with a full-blown sprint. So, it's. like your bra better be supportive. You.

[laughter] better. duck in and out of you guys. I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry, Jason. You know, like you. don't And cuz he's going and you better. have two ready to go cuz that's all. you're going to get. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. I I mean, we we just talked about. it. I was so grateful that Mike Vrael. came up to set. I never ever take for. granted you guys have just played a game. >> and you know the you got you want to go. take a shower or you got you know for. him he's got the postgame podium stuff.

and all this kind of stuff. So um coming. up and doing an interview from him. Shawn Payton's always been great. We. worked that one year together at Fox. But although my man I got to work with. him. He he you ask him a question and. it's 40 minutes later and he has not. answered the question and I'm like Sean. the game's over. What is happening? So, we're gonna work on him being more. succinct, but we love Sean. Um, Mike. Frabel. Yeah, I don't know. Mike. Tomlin's another OG this always like. >> he the lines he delivers are so He was.

great uh just this past week. He's he's. a classic. >> Yeah, >> we've had an idea on the show for a. boyfriend whistle. >> What do you think of this idea? >> Like almost like a like a whistle like a. >> you're the coach like take the trash. out. Like what are you doing without I. don't know. The idea is that men are. coachable. So if you need chores done. around the house, you just you get a. whistle to get their attention to snap. into line and do it. Or if you just. mention it to them while they're doing. something else, it won't register.

>> So the idea was to give whistle whenever. they need to coach up their husband. >> Oh my god. I'm I'm not mad at it. I'm. ordering a whistle right now off Amazon. Steve, you're gonna have a long night. ahead of you, sweetheart. This thing is gonna be here in 10. minutes. Get going. [laughter]. >> Oh no, Jimmy. >> I mean, Steve is very coachable. I will. say he always just tells me to write. down what I want him to do. He's like, I.

will do whatever you want to do. You. just have to write it down because if. you just tell me while I'm am doing. other things, I'm going to forget and. then you're going to say to me, you. weren't listening to me because I wasn't. listening to you because I was doing. other things. So, if I just write it. down, but I'm now all in on the And. we'll even play a little blow the. whistle in the background while we're. doing. [laughter]. >> Gilly. See, I don't need that for chores in my. house cuz mine is on me about staying uh. keeping it tight. So, yeah. There we go. Yeah. >> Yeah. Big time. But yeah, other things.

I'm I'm down for it. Let us [laughter]. know when we can pick that up. >> All right. >> Uh we got to get a new heights whistle. on that one. Yes. Um, all right. When. traveling with friends, what makes a. good travel plus one? >> Keeping track of the passport. Like I I. don't want to be responsible for it. I. like [laughter] I am I'm I Steve's way. more responsible than me. So when I. since we all travel a lot for work, every single person on here, when I. travel recreationally, I am at that.

airport bar or that airport lounge and I. am ready to get in the mix. So, I don't. want to be responsible for having to get. to the gate on time. I don't want to. deal with the passport. Like, I'm. already on my vacation the second I get. in that Uber to go to the airport. So, like, [laughter] please just be. responsible for me while we're at the. airport. And that makes a good travel. partner. >> But I think Steve and Jared are the same. with this, Carissa, with our vacations. we've gone on. Like, they deal with I. know Jared deals with the reservations. He deals with the cars that are picking. us up. like he's very big into the.

schedule and hey guys we're going to do. this and and sometimes a little too much. like hey babe Clark Griswald relax we. don't need [laughter] to have the whole. trip planned out maybe one day we sleep. in I don't know. >> he's a so yeah he's he's really good. with that and I think I when he's not. around I I kind of panic like wait I. have to I have to plug in my gloves. myself and heat them myself and bring. our stuff down to the lockers what are. you talking about we have to tell so. this past offse we Aaron and I and Steve. and Jared did a Griswald uh European.

vacation. So, we were Oh, yes. >> almost 10 days or Yeah. two weeks we. were in Europe together and the boys the. guys planned it all. They did. everything. So, Aaron and I had a. talking with one another before this. trip started like we are not allowed to. [ __ ] complain about a goddamn thing. because planned. So, >> there we go. But the one night we did complain was. when Jared asked a teammate um former. teammate who was European of where to go.

to dinner one night. >> Oh no. >> We were in Monaco and there was these. guys. There were these guys that were. there on a bike. They were on a cycling. trip with a bunch of dudes. Okay. >> PROSTITUTES THAT SHOWED UP. YEAH. [laughter]. >> THERE THEY WERE. NOT our better half. >> There they were. Yep. And so as we're. asking these guys about their cycling. trip, they're like, "Oh yeah." I'm like, "So, do you bring your own bike?" And. they're like, "No." And I'm like, "Definitely a cover up on the old. cycling trip." [laughter].

>> Oh my god. I don't even know where you. go, Jason. It's on you. As a girl dad of. four, at some point I will have four. teenage girls living under one roof. >> Is there any advice that you guys have? What is just. >> I would so I remember this vivid vividly. where I saved up my babysitting money. and Jenko jeans were like really in then. and so I came down the stairs in these.

Jenko jeans and my dad looked at me he. goes what the [ __ ] are you wearing and I. go tell [laughter] my new JEANS AND HE. GOES [screaming]. NOT IN this house you're not and I was. devastated that he wasn't going to let. me dress like the skater that I wanted. to dress like and whatever but he always. had the like it's my house, my rules. And he was like, you are not that's not. we're not doing that. And so I would say. along those same lines where it's like, you know, my dad also said had this. expression, it's not my job to be your. friend, it's my job to be your parent. And then when you turn 18, you get to. decide if you want to be friends with. me. So it's like as hard as it is, I'm.

sure because girls will like, you know, butter you up and all this stuff. It's. like you just stay. And I know you and. Kylie are very aligned on this. I've. heard you say like we don't want to. raise brats and you won't because. >> and I loved that Jason. >> too because it's like it it's your I. mean to send these children out into the. world and be good human beings it starts. at home and that is a thankless job. I. don't have kids. I won't pretend but I. just know like for me that growing up in. a household with discipline but a lot of. love like I knew what the rules were. I.

knew that my parents you know like had. the best intentions and like kids want. boundaries. They want to know like what. the rules are. So, I would say like just. even if they're girls and you feel like. you got to like be a little bit lenient. because they're don't it it will help. them later on to not just always like. give them the out because they're, you. know, little girls. >> Okay. >> See, it's crazy. I'm running into this. at my house. I I did grow up with boys. I mean, I it was my sister and, you. know, I But I know Jared and obviously.

had structure throughout his whole life. He moved away from home when he was 14. to go play junior hockey. Jared is. easier on Mac than I am. And Mac's only. two, but like prime example, you know, he's kind of acting up yesterday and and. I said, "Jared, now's your time." AND. HE'S JUST [laughter]. IT BLOWS my mind because I am very much. like and I I loved when you talked about. Disney World and your daughter and you. just said, "I I don't want to regret. [laughter] because yesterday I decided, hey, let's pull." No, no, no, YOU'RE. GOING TO HAVE HALF OF IT. I LOVE THAT.

Um because that's how I feel. And so it. is a real balance here. But now I'm. today I felt like before he left for the. rink I was like wow our parenting skills. like we need to get on the same you know. level here. But so when does that happen. Jason? I'm curious about that. >> We're on the same page almost all the. time. I would say very routinely. We're. both pretty disciplinarian when it comes. to the girls. >> I've seen you. You're amazing. Yeah. Um,

>> I will say I will say the girls, the. only girl I grew up with is Travis. So, this is new territory to a certain. extent for me as. >> how did I catch a stray in this? How did. I catch a stray? >> Uh, when I first found out I was having. Wyatt, I was like, "Okay, I'm not going. to raise her any different than how I. would raise a boy. Like, I'm going to. make her tough and like disciplined and. I'm not going to be like this like. daddy's daughter who's getting. everything she wants." And then like the. moment she came out, it was like very. hard to not be that tan. Like it becomes.

very obvious exactly what you're talking. about, Cararissa, where it's like. >> it is very difficult when they look at. me a certain way to not cave like. instantaneously. >> And especially those eyes on your girls. My gosh. >> And I will say Kylie is better at. resisting that than I am. 100%. So, I'm. I could still though listen like like. the waffle story if they if there's. anything where it's I'll cave for like a. treat or like something innocuous, but.

if it's like either being selfish or. mean or lying or like any of like the. the big top of like we're not going to. put up with this, I'll for sure like put. my foot down. And I think in our house. with the two girls, and I feel bad now. for my mom with this, my dad was always. like, you know, he because we knew, you. know, dad wasn't at home during the day. It was always mom and so we acted. differently for dad. And I feel bad that. I did that to my mom now. So obviously. our relationships are, you know, I'm so. sorry, mom, because now Mac does that to.

me. But um yeah, no, I I I feel like. you'll always be a different role with. daddy. So yeah, that's interesting when. you have to figure out to be the. disciplinarian. Yeah, >> I was just thinking about and I know we. all grew up in the same era where it was. like, you know, we didn't have cell. phones and our parents weren't like. calling us. When they would leave during. summer vacation, they would leave that. note, the proverbial note on the counter. that was like, these were the chores for. the day and if you didn't get that [ __ ]. done by the time we're home, you're in. trouble. And it's like I miss those days. where it's like those those are you know.

you again you understood what the rules. were and I'll never forget the garage. door open and I was like. >> [ __ ] WE HAD A MINUTE AND MY DAD WAS home. and it was like we're all running around. trying to you know do all the chores but. it was like it was the the rules were. pretty clearcut. It's like yeah a. simpler time guys. >> It'll be crazy. I mean even in the next. 10 years what our kids will be doing. with. >> I know. >> like AI all that stuff. It's kind of. hard to even like comprehend. >> I'm trying to push off the phones. >> Yeah. I was Well, I was just thinking.

even when I went to college, phones. weren't a big thing. It was like you. were real rich if you had a phone in. college. And I used to drive I mean. that's not even that far. But two and a. half hours to go from Tampa to. Gainesville and my parents were good. with I didn't have a phone. Now you. don't want your kid like you know going. down the street without a phone. It's. wild how things have changed. >> Our dad used to give us a calling card. Did you ever have those for the pay. phones? >> Of course. So whenever we went out to go. like play baseball at the field if we. ever needed a ride or anything like. that, >> we would go we would pull out the card. that dad gave us just so we could pay.

It. >> started it started off though I was I. was calling him collect. >> just before he gave us the card. I would. walk home from school in like elementary. school, middle school and I'd call my. dad collect on a 1-800 number and. [laughter] he would be LIKE STOP CALLING. ME and get your ASS HOME. [laughter] I'M. NOT PAYING for all of these calls. Stop. asking me. You come straight home. [laughter] And then he then he started. thinking about it. He's like, I mean, it. kind of is convenient to have a little.

calling card so that they can reach me. if they need me. >> Can you still call people collect? >> I don't know. I don't even know. Payones. When's the last time I saw a. pay phone? I don't know. >> Would Star 69 still work? Oh, yeah. We. did that, too. When you wanted to prank. people or find out who was calling. >> Star 67. So they couldn't star 69 you. [laughter]. >> We're talking to some bros here. >> Did you guys ever have girls like prank. call you? Like like any prank stories? They did. >> Well, I know, but I mean like one that's.

like cuz we would prank call like all. the cute boys in school and that's like. they knew we were doing it. But prank. calling. >> I don't remember ever getting prank. called. I just remember listening in on. all the Jason's calls just being the. shitty little brother. >> What's the best jerk you had? >> Nothing. It was never anything exciting. It was just me feeling like I was like. being a spy. [laughter]. >> My sister was 5 years older than me and. she was dating the high school. quarterback. And I remember I was I. played with Barbies until I was way too.

old. Like somebody my dad should. [laughter] have stepped in and been. like, "Hey, I think you're a little too. old for this. This is getting weird." Uh. in the Barbie convertible in the dream. house and I was like in, you know, ninth. grade. Um he's like, "That's enough.". But I remember like I think I was in I'm. not kidding, seventh grade. And the high. school quarterback walked in my house. and I was mortified. I like threw the. Barbie and I was like, "Hi, Brad." LIKE, [laughter]. "These are these are the neighbors. Barbies, not mine." [laughter]. Embarrassed that he saw me.

>> I think uh the last one is we're giving. you guys the floor. Since we have. acclaimed uh journalists on the pod, we. want to give you guys the chance to. maybe ask Jason a question or Travis. Say that. >> Okay. Okay. So, I always think about in. an interview, um, you know, Erin and I. love doing sitdown interviews for a lot. of different reasons. Get to, you know, learn more about you guys, just have. that like one-on-one cuz sometimes in. games and post, it's just a different. vibe when you actually get a sit down. interview. But I always want to ask this. question. Is there a question that you.

wish somebody would have asked you and. they never did? >> Go Carissa. >> God damn it. >> And it could be about anything. It's. like, you know, because sometimes when. those interviews are over and you're. like, we this is to get in our brains, we're like, oh god, did we ask the right. questions? Did we do enough? Did we ask. too many? Like, you know, did we. whatever? And then I always think like. maybe there was a question they wanted. me to ask and I didn't. I love that. >> I feel like I've never I've never had. that uh come across my mind, but I've.

I've always been appreciative of when I. get asked about my family. >> Yeah. I think that shining light on my. mom, my dad, Jason, um our supporting. cast around Cleveland Heights, I feel. like I've always been like those are the. questions I want to answer more than. anything else about football cuz that's. that's what's at the core of it all. >> Yeah. I I think similar to what Travis. is saying, a lot of the times you're. giving you're answering questions about. yourself and it feels a little bit weird. when you're kind of doing that. I guess.

you. >> Yeah. Well, like we did we had a great uh. interview like that, Aaron, when we uh. we did the whole O line in Philadelphia. >> It is one of my favorite interviews. It. was one of my favorite. >> because it was with the guys. It was. like with a group. >> So, >> I fell in love with all of you that day. That was so special. >> I think Yeah, maybe the best answer is. kind of what Travis saying. Either the. family or like about a teammate or. something like that. Those are always. the ones that I really enjoy the most as.

like an interviewer or interviewee. >> I'm gonna bring some humor to it. When I. started in this industry, I had a lot of. athletes tell me about people that. interviewed them that had really bad. breath and that always stayed in my. mind. I am a psycho when it comes to. breath and [laughter] interviews. So. much so that in my pants, any of my. pants that I'm wearing during a game, there are two Listerine like containers. and even the spray. And if I don't have.

them, I am like begging the trainers for. something. >> I am too. >> begging the guys, the camera guys, anything in my nose, teeth, and then I I. have a story. I interviewed Ryan Howard. one time. >> and I took in the Listerine thing there. They were stuck together. So, I think. there was like four of them in and I. took it and my breath was so fresh. It. hit him in the eye and I said to him, "Oh my god, are you crying?" And he. goes, "No, but your breath is so fresh.". Like,

>> it [laughter] just caught me in the eye. [screaming]. >> I I think we've all had that experience. of bad breath. And it is it's difficult. to carry on a conversation. There's. definitely some guys I could throw under. the bus. I won't do it. But yeah, >> I think of opposing players when you. guys are talking so close. That's my one. thing I'm like, "Oh god, their breath. must be tough." Um, but yeah, you don't. think about it during the game, huh? >> Have you noticed it ever on the field? I've more noticed my own teammates. You're sitting next to somebody in. meetings and then all of a sudden it's. like, "God damn it, he's having nothing. >> He's having a day today." Like,

[laughter]. >> nothing worse than somebody ripping ass. in the huddle, though. >> You know, it happens like three or four. times like, "All right, listen, man. You. got to get this under control. This is a. ridiculous. [laughter]. He's sitting right next to you." This is. the um like the difference of sometimes, not all cuz Aaron and I are very honest. with each other, but the difference. between men and women is two guys walk. into a party with the same shirt on and. they come up to each other and like you. look [ __ ] great, man. Look at that. shirt. What a great shirt. You look Oh. yeah. >> Two women walk into a party with the. same dress and they're on opposite ends.

going, "That [ __ ] looks terrible in. this dress. God damn it. I look so bad.". And it's making this dress look so bad. >> It's so different. It's like men would. be like, "Bro, your breath is awful, so. here's a man." And women would just like. skirt around it and be like, "Anyone. want a mint?" No, you're talking to to. [laughter] Sarah over here. Sarah needs. a little da. >> Carissa, you guys are the [ __ ] best. This has been long overdue. Thank you. for coming on. This was so much fun. I. can't tell you. >> We laughed more here than we've laughed.

in a long time. >> Exactly. >> You guys are the best. Seriously. And. congrats on the success. Like I mean we. we you know us you know as Erin and I. having come from this world from a long. time ago sitting with you guys in that. random warehouse in Cleveland like we. just [laughter] one of your biggest. fans. So. >> yes, >> love you guys. You're the best. >> Bye you guys. Thank you. >> And that wraps up ANOTHER EPISODE OF NEW. HEIGHTS. That's right. Thank you to. Carissa Thompson and Aaron Andrews. And. also make sure you subscribe to the New. Heights channel on YouTube and follow.

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